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That sounds like a fair deal, Colonel!

From the Telegraph in 2010:

Gaddafi: Europe will ‘turn black’ unless EU pays Libya £4bn a year

Col Muammar Gaddafi has warned that Europe runs the risk of turning “black” unless the EU pays Libya at least €5 billion (£4.1 billion) a year to block the arrival of illegal immigrants from Africa.

By Nick Squires in Rome 5:52PM BST 31 Aug 2010

His remarks, made during a controversial three day visit to Italy, were condemned as “unacceptable blackmail” by Italian MPs, who likened the demand to the protection money that mafia gangs demand from businesses.

Speaking at a ceremony in Rome while standing next to Silvio Berlusconi, Italy’s prime minister, Col Gaddafi, 67, said that unless his request for money was met, Europe would otherwise become “another Africa” as a result of the “advance of millions of immigrants”.

“Tomorrow Europe might no longer be European and even black as there are millions who want to come in,” he said.

“We don’t know if Europe will remain an advanced and united continent or if it will be destroyed, as happened with the barbarian invasions”.

The following year, Hillary had Gaddafi sodomized to death.

With nobody in power to bribe in Libya, the migrants from sub-Saharan Africa started to flow across Libya to Italy in earnest.

Now, six years after Gaddafi, there are slave auctions in Libya:

By the way, George Orwell said, “At fifty, every man has the face he deserves,” which you can see by comparing Gaddafi’s black & white news photos to his color news photos.

Did the late Alan Rickman ever get a chance to play the older Gaddafi?

 
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  1. Kaz says:

    In retrospect that 5bil a year would have been worth every penny and probably a realistic assessment of the costs.

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    • Replies: @Neoconned
    Agreed.

    Light years cheaper than all the cop/jail/health care/welfare costs etc they're paying now to subsidize these foreign deadbeats...
    , @Anonymous
    Given that the EU's GDP is around $16 trillion annually, that $5 billion was negligible.
    , @eah
    Italy already has a Navy which could/should be used to turn the boats back, not bring them to European soil -- a bit of extra help from other EU nations with that would not cost 5b€ per year.
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  2. anon says: • Disclaimer

    We came , we saw , he died , cackle cackle cackle cackle , guffaw guffaw lolololzlzlzlz

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    • Replies: @c matt
    Updated to: I ran, I cheated, I lost.
    , @L Woods
    Cough cough wheeze
    , @Stan Adams
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RT5YwvcbNo
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  3. Neoconned says:

    Sidney Blumenthal, Hillary’s mogul advisor guy claimed the French “bombed first to get Obama to join in” both because Qaddafi was threatening to expose the tens of millions he had given sarkozy and other European politicians.

    He was also planning to get rid of the Franc as the currency of the former French colonies in Africa so he could back it with an oil-gold backed Libyan dinar.

    Challenge the bankers and big finance interests and see how fast you get a war started to off your ass. There was a conspiracy theory I found at least compelling that one of the main reasons “they” got rid of Saddam was because he wanted to trade his oil in both euros and gold rather than the Dollar…..

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  4. Neoconned says:
    @Kaz
    In retrospect that 5bil a year would have been worth every penny and probably a realistic assessment of the costs.

    Agreed.

    Light years cheaper than all the cop/jail/health care/welfare costs etc they’re paying now to subsidize these foreign deadbeats…

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  5. eah says:

    Too bad he didn’t also warn that Europe would ‘turn cuck’ — which is the real problem.

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    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Indeed. The last time I checked, you have a right to shoot at people who are invading you. Seriously, if Europeans realized what's happening, they would bring out the big guns and just keep people away to fend for themselves.

    Think lifeboat. Europe is a lifeboat that can't hold everybody who's floundering out there in the water. Sometimes you have to push them away with the oars, or everyone will die.

    The same must be said for the United States.

    The White Man's homelands are endangered because he has forgotten how ruthless nature really is. His own inventions and success have sheltered and comforted him for so long that he doesn't remember what it's like out there.

    , @eah
    Not Gaddafi's fault:

    https://twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/933098504670425088
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  6. How long is it before we see outright colonization of Africa again? The same cast of characters that existed in the late 19th century still exists, just under a slightly different guise:

    Capital backing the colonies
    19th Century: landed English gentry and City banks
    21st Century: multinational corporations and Wall St.

    Earnest do gooders
    19th Century: Protestant missionaries
    21st Century: SJWs

    Colonial administrators:
    19th Century: bored upper middle class English public school graduates
    21st Century: otherwise unemployable African, Women’s, etc. Studies majors

    Native Conduct requiring correction:
    19th Century: polygamy, sodomy, paganism
    21st Century: homophobia, transphobia, Christianity

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    • Replies: @njguy73
    All the Wall Streeters, SJWs, otherwise unemployable African, Women’s, etc. Studies majors go to the other side of the world, run the new colonial empire, and never return to America.

    I can dream, can't I?
    , @syonredux

    How long is it before we see outright colonization of Africa again? The same cast of characters that existed in the late 19th century still exists, just under a slightly different guise:
     
    You left out the Chinese.....

    In 1980, the total Sino-African trade volume was US$1 billion.[8] In 1999, it was US$6.5 billion[30] and in 2000, US$10 billion.[8] By 2005, the total Sino-African trade had reached US$39.7 billion before it jumped to US$55 billion in 2006, making China the second largest trading partner of Africa after the United States, which had trade worth US$91 billion with African nations. The PRC also passed the traditional African economic partner and former colonial power France, which had trade worth US$47 billion.[31] In 2010, trade between Africa and China was worth US$114 billion[8] and in 2011, US$166.3 billion.[32] In the first 10 months of 2012 it was US$163.9 billion
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa%E2%80%93China_relations

    Is China the World’s New Colonial Power?
    The rising superpower has built up enormous holdings in poor, resource-rich African countries — but its business partners there aren’t always thrilled.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/02/magazine/is-china-the-worlds-new-colonial-power.html
    , @International Jew
    There's one missing element: colonial troops willing to shoot into crowds of natives, now and then.

    Somebody (Derbyshire? Dalrymple?) once wrote that in the old days the problem wasn't getting British/French/Belgian/German soldiers to shoot at the natives, it was getting them to stop shooting.

    , @nebulafox
    Sending SJWs to hector Africans? Pretty much a Chinese propagandist's dream come true. Most of the locals want jobs, clean water, technology, bread, improving living standards, stability and order: not lectures from some ambiguously gendered liberal arts grad on the finer points of democracy and feminism.

    Completely against American interests! So, naturally, that will be the first thing the government does.

    , @Ed
    Colonization will return. It’s quite clear Africans can’t govern themselves at a level that delivers even a modicum of modern life to its inhabitants.


    Only a few countries in the continent even come anywhere close. In order to keep the hordes away the great powers will have to intervene. Except this time around it’ll include China and not the UK.
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  7. A number of news reports said that Italy has finally started to do what Gaddafi suggested, with their intelligence services getting in touch with local warlords in Libya, and paying them to cut off the flow of African migrants.

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/libyan-militias-being-bribed-stop-migrants-crossing-europe-2107168893

    https://www.thelocal.it/20170927/italy-security-chiefs-meet-libyan-military-strongman-haftar

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    • Replies: @utu
    New mafia-led militia may be stopping refugees from leaving Libya for Italy
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/mafia-refugees-libya-italy-stop-leave-militia-mediterranean-crossing-sabratha-migrant-boats-a7906666.html

    Sources told Reuters a "former mafia boss" is leading a group of several hundred policemen, army officials and civilians as part of a "very strong campaign" to stop boats taking off from Sabratha, an ancient city 45 miles west of Libya’s capital, Tripoli.
     
    , @Ivy
    Merkel should contribute, too. Italy is one of the lines of defense, Germany and other European countries need to step up like Hungary did, and her political future is looking shaky.

    England is trying to work out some deals with France to keep the Camp of the Aints future law-abiding citizens out of the Chunnel. There were lulls in the news reports in the US, but with Harvey tales waning, expect more immigrant details first in Europe and then those poor wretched huddled masses awaiting sinecures and voting registrations stateside.
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  8. utu says:
    @PiltdownMan
    A number of news reports said that Italy has finally started to do what Gaddafi suggested, with their intelligence services getting in touch with local warlords in Libya, and paying them to cut off the flow of African migrants.

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/libyan-militias-being-bribed-stop-migrants-crossing-europe-2107168893

    https://www.thelocal.it/20170927/italy-security-chiefs-meet-libyan-military-strongman-haftar

    New mafia-led militia may be stopping refugees from leaving Libya for Italy

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/mafia-refugees-libya-italy-stop-leave-militia-mediterranean-crossing-sabratha-migrant-boats-a7906666.html

    Sources told Reuters a “former mafia boss” is leading a group of several hundred policemen, army officials and civilians as part of a “very strong campaign” to stop boats taking off from Sabratha, an ancient city 45 miles west of Libya’s capital, Tripoli.

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    How exactly do you become a "former mafia boss"?
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  9. Did the late Alan Rickman ever get a chance to play the older Gaddafi?

    Perhaps Robert Plant (with hair suitably colored) or Carlos Santana (with a few more wrinkles) could do the job, now that Alan Rickman is no longer with us.

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    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    How about Edward James Olmos?
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  10. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Kaz
    In retrospect that 5bil a year would have been worth every penny and probably a realistic assessment of the costs.

    Given that the EU’s GDP is around $16 trillion annually, that $5 billion was negligible.

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    A lot of Greeks, Italians, Spaniards etc etc rendered destitute by shithead EU policies could sure benefit from that money.
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  11. Ivy says:
    @PiltdownMan
    A number of news reports said that Italy has finally started to do what Gaddafi suggested, with their intelligence services getting in touch with local warlords in Libya, and paying them to cut off the flow of African migrants.

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/libyan-militias-being-bribed-stop-migrants-crossing-europe-2107168893

    https://www.thelocal.it/20170927/italy-security-chiefs-meet-libyan-military-strongman-haftar

    Merkel should contribute, too. Italy is one of the lines of defense, Germany and other European countries need to step up like Hungary did, and her political future is looking shaky.

    England is trying to work out some deals with France to keep the Camp of the Aints future law-abiding citizens out of the Chunnel. There were lulls in the news reports in the US, but with Harvey tales waning, expect more immigrant details first in Europe and then those poor wretched huddled masses awaiting sinecures and voting registrations stateside.

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  12. @utu
    New mafia-led militia may be stopping refugees from leaving Libya for Italy
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/mafia-refugees-libya-italy-stop-leave-militia-mediterranean-crossing-sabratha-migrant-boats-a7906666.html

    Sources told Reuters a "former mafia boss" is leading a group of several hundred policemen, army officials and civilians as part of a "very strong campaign" to stop boats taking off from Sabratha, an ancient city 45 miles west of Libya’s capital, Tripoli.
     

    How exactly do you become a “former mafia boss”?

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    How exactly do you become a “former mafia boss”?
     
    Maybe by saving Europe. Let's find a few Corleones and give them carte blanche on our southern border.

    Our Italian diversity is our strength.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    How exactly do you become a “former mafia boss”?
     
    Take a glass-bottom tour of the East River and find out!
    , @utu

    How exactly do you become a “former mafia boss”?
     
    By being hired by the US government during the WWII in the US and occupied Italy.

    Mussolini defeated mafia:

    Mori's campaign ended in June 1929 when Mussolini recalled him to Rome, after making him a "senator". Although Mori did not permanently crush the Mafia, his campaign was successful at suppressing it. The Mafia informant Antonino Calderone reminisced: "The music changed. Mafiosi had a hard life. [...] After the war the mafia hardly existed anymore. The Sicilian Families had all been broken up."[15]

    Sicily's murder rate sharply declined.[20] Landowners were able to raise the legal rents on their lands; sometimes as much as ten-thousandfold.[9] The Fascist Party propaganda machine proudly announced that the Mafia had been defeated.[21] The economy of Sicily greatly increased in the late 1930s, without the Mafia control.

    Many Mafia members fled to the United States. Among these were Carlo Gambino and Joseph Bonanno, who became powerful Mafia bosses in New York City.
     

    By the beginning of the Second World War, the Mafia was restricted to a few isolated and scattered groups and could have been completely wiped out if the social problems of the island had been dealt with ... the Allied occupation and the subsequent slow restoration of democracy reinstated the Mafia with its full powers, put it once more on the way to becoming a political force, and returned to the "Onorata Societa" the weapons which Fascism had snatched from it.Michele Pantaleone[24]

    As Fascist mayors were deposed, the Allied Military Government of Occupied Territories (AMGOT) simply appointed replacements. Many turned out to be former Mafia members, such as Calogero Vizzini and Giuseppe Genco Russo.[25][26] They easily presented themselves as fascist dissidents[27] and their anti-communist positions strengthened their bids for political offices. Mafia bosses reformed their clans, absorbing some of the marauding bandits into their ranks.

     

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    Good point. Fredric Dannen, writing about Mob influence on the music business in Hit Men, said that the Mafia "has perhaps the world's worst retirement program."
    , @njguy73

    How exactly do you become a “former mafia boss”?
     
    It involves piano wire and cement.
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  13. @eah
    Too bad he didn't also warn that Europe would 'turn cuck' -- which is the real problem.

    Indeed. The last time I checked, you have a right to shoot at people who are invading you. Seriously, if Europeans realized what’s happening, they would bring out the big guns and just keep people away to fend for themselves.

    Think lifeboat. Europe is a lifeboat that can’t hold everybody who’s floundering out there in the water. Sometimes you have to push them away with the oars, or everyone will die.

    The same must be said for the United States.

    The White Man’s homelands are endangered because he has forgotten how ruthless nature really is. His own inventions and success have sheltered and comforted him for so long that he doesn’t remember what it’s like out there.

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    These people are asylum seekers, not invaders.
    , @Moses

    The White Man’s homelands are endangered because he has forgotten how ruthless nature really is. His own inventions and success have sheltered and comforted him for so long that he doesn’t remember what it’s like out there.
     
    Yes. This is exactly it.
    , @bomag
    Environmentalists have been lecturing us about the risks of modern society that may doom us: too much plastic; too much CO2; etc.

    Maybe they should have warned us about too many Africans.
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  14. @Steve Sailer
    How exactly do you become a "former mafia boss"?

    How exactly do you become a “former mafia boss”?

    Maybe by saving Europe. Let’s find a few Corleones and give them carte blanche on our southern border.

    Our Italian diversity is our strength.

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    • Agree: Dan Hayes
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  15. You Can’t Say Muammar Didn’t Warn Us

    I first read that as “Myanmar”. Myanmar Gaddhafi has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it?

    The unpronounceable meets the unspellable.

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  16. @Steve Sailer
    How exactly do you become a "former mafia boss"?

    How exactly do you become a “former mafia boss”?

    Take a glass-bottom tour of the East River and find out!

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  17. EricCh says:

    Happy to see Europe self-destruct. Those self-righteous pricks deserve what is coming.

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    Happy to see Europe self-destruct. Those self-righteous pricks deserve what is coming.
     
    I've always been told that immigrants are industrious GDP builders. And they bring diversity, of which more is better. It's all upside, from what my handlers tell me.
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  18. eah says:
    @eah
    Too bad he didn't also warn that Europe would 'turn cuck' -- which is the real problem.

    Not Gaddafi’s fault:

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  19. eah says:
    @Kaz
    In retrospect that 5bil a year would have been worth every penny and probably a realistic assessment of the costs.

    Italy already has a Navy which could/should be used to turn the boats back, not bring them to European soil — a bit of extra help from other EU nations with that would not cost 5b€ per year.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    You are assuming the navies of Europe would have to be constantly engaged in up-tempo operations to stop the inflow. In reality if they had sunk, or at least turned back a few boats, the tide would have subsided. But since they rewarded the initial invaders, they got more invaders.
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  20. utu says:
    @Steve Sailer
    How exactly do you become a "former mafia boss"?

    How exactly do you become a “former mafia boss”?

    By being hired by the US government during the WWII in the US and occupied Italy.

    Mussolini defeated mafia:

    Mori’s campaign ended in June 1929 when Mussolini recalled him to Rome, after making him a “senator”. Although Mori did not permanently crush the Mafia, his campaign was successful at suppressing it. The Mafia informant Antonino Calderone reminisced: “The music changed. Mafiosi had a hard life. [...] After the war the mafia hardly existed anymore. The Sicilian Families had all been broken up.”[15]

    Sicily’s murder rate sharply declined.[20] Landowners were able to raise the legal rents on their lands; sometimes as much as ten-thousandfold.[9] The Fascist Party propaganda machine proudly announced that the Mafia had been defeated.[21] The economy of Sicily greatly increased in the late 1930s, without the Mafia control.

    Many Mafia members fled to the United States. Among these were Carlo Gambino and Joseph Bonanno, who became powerful Mafia bosses in New York City.

    By the beginning of the Second World War, the Mafia was restricted to a few isolated and scattered groups and could have been completely wiped out if the social problems of the island had been dealt with … the Allied occupation and the subsequent slow restoration of democracy reinstated the Mafia with its full powers, put it once more on the way to becoming a political force, and returned to the “Onorata Societa” the weapons which Fascism had snatched from it.Michele Pantaleone[24]

    As Fascist mayors were deposed, the Allied Military Government of Occupied Territories (AMGOT) simply appointed replacements. Many turned out to be former Mafia members, such as Calogero Vizzini and Giuseppe Genco Russo.[25][26] They easily presented themselves as fascist dissidents[27] and their anti-communist positions strengthened their bids for political offices. Mafia bosses reformed their clans, absorbing some of the marauding bandits into their ranks.

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  21. I propose, once the Second Reconquista has been completed, that we erect statues all over Europe of the Libyan Prophet to commemorate the European survival of this modern day Völkerwanderung. Plus, think of the diversity points!

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  22. @Steve Sailer
    How exactly do you become a "former mafia boss"?

    Good point. Fredric Dannen, writing about Mob influence on the music business in Hit Men, said that the Mafia “has perhaps the world’s worst retirement program.”

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  23. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Merkel should contribute, too. Italy is one of the lines of defense…

    Merkel only believes in lines of surrender. She’s open about this issue. Many, many Germans agree.

    German ethny is high IQ but easily duped by any political ideology that offers supposed moral high ground.

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    • Replies: @yeah
    "German ethny is high IQ but easily duped by any political ideology that offers supposed moral high ground"

    Now you have me truly confused. If they are truly smart (high IQ) then how come they are dumb-easy to dupe? Either being smart (high IQ) does not confer any real-world advantage, or they may not really be that smart.
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  24. “George Orwell said, “At fifty, every man has the face he deserves,” ”

    Actually that’s a riff on a Scandinavian saying:

    At twenty, you have the face that God gave you.

    At forty, you have the face that Man gave you.

    At sixty, you have the face you deserve.

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  25. njguy73 says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    How long is it before we see outright colonization of Africa again? The same cast of characters that existed in the late 19th century still exists, just under a slightly different guise:

    Capital backing the colonies
    19th Century: landed English gentry and City banks
    21st Century: multinational corporations and Wall St.

    Earnest do gooders
    19th Century: Protestant missionaries
    21st Century: SJWs

    Colonial administrators:
    19th Century: bored upper middle class English public school graduates
    21st Century: otherwise unemployable African, Women's, etc. Studies majors

    Native Conduct requiring correction:
    19th Century: polygamy, sodomy, paganism
    21st Century: homophobia, transphobia, Christianity

    All the Wall Streeters, SJWs, otherwise unemployable African, Women’s, etc. Studies majors go to the other side of the world, run the new colonial empire, and never return to America.

    I can dream, can’t I?

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  26. njguy73 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    How exactly do you become a "former mafia boss"?

    How exactly do you become a “former mafia boss”?

    It involves piano wire and cement.

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    What I wanna know is who the hell wants to buy those people as slaves?

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  28. syonredux says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    How long is it before we see outright colonization of Africa again? The same cast of characters that existed in the late 19th century still exists, just under a slightly different guise:

    Capital backing the colonies
    19th Century: landed English gentry and City banks
    21st Century: multinational corporations and Wall St.

    Earnest do gooders
    19th Century: Protestant missionaries
    21st Century: SJWs

    Colonial administrators:
    19th Century: bored upper middle class English public school graduates
    21st Century: otherwise unemployable African, Women's, etc. Studies majors

    Native Conduct requiring correction:
    19th Century: polygamy, sodomy, paganism
    21st Century: homophobia, transphobia, Christianity

    How long is it before we see outright colonization of Africa again? The same cast of characters that existed in the late 19th century still exists, just under a slightly different guise:

    You left out the Chinese…..

    In 1980, the total Sino-African trade volume was US$1 billion.[8] In 1999, it was US$6.5 billion[30] and in 2000, US$10 billion.[8] By 2005, the total Sino-African trade had reached US$39.7 billion before it jumped to US$55 billion in 2006, making China the second largest trading partner of Africa after the United States, which had trade worth US$91 billion with African nations. The PRC also passed the traditional African economic partner and former colonial power France, which had trade worth US$47 billion.[31] In 2010, trade between Africa and China was worth US$114 billion[8] and in 2011, US$166.3 billion.[32] In the first 10 months of 2012 it was US$163.9 billion

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa%E2%80%93China_relations

    Is China the World’s New Colonial Power?
    The rising superpower has built up enormous holdings in poor, resource-rich African countries — but its business partners there aren’t always thrilled.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/02/magazine/is-china-the-worlds-new-colonial-power.html

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    They can keep it.

    The very very worst epochal, hubrisitic, existential, messianic etc etc just plain DUMB mistake the 'white race' ever made - a mistake which will in all likelihood eventually extinguish it - (no, I'm not talking about taking 'feminism' seriously) - is getting involved - far too intimately and 'fraternally' - with black Africans.

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  29. It seems he remained a colonel to the end. You’d think he’d give himself a promotion now and then…

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    Khadaffy Duck was crazy and stupid, but he was smarter than the West in some ways because we have become crazier and stupider.

    After naughty behavior, Reagan smacked the snot out of him, and after that he did what he was supposed to do, and we had him sodomized and murdered for it. Based on that, other dictators like Kim in North Korea have correctly deduced that their only safety is in that essential male member of nationhood, the (weaponized and deliverable) nuclear weapon.

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    Apart from stating the cold facts on migration and Libya's role in keeping it back, he gave up his nuke program after we paid him a little house call after 9/11. Gaddafi was loopy, not stupid. He could tell that US policy in the region was about to take brutal turn and knew from *very* painful personal experience in the 80s that the US could lash out-hard-when messed with too much. Dubya, to his (extremely limited) credit kept his end of the tacit bargain and left the Libyan regime alone, but then along came the Arab Spring, hailed by Time Magazine as the true symbol of Bin Laden's defeat...

    But we eventually returned the favor years later by having him pistol whipped and left dead in a ditch. Proving in conjunction with what happened to Saddam and Mubarak and what was about to happen to Assad more or less what the North Koreans (who had strong ties to both the Pakistani and Iranian bomb programs) have said to other rogue states interested in dabbling with nukes all along for *decades*: that you should:

    a) Never ever, ever trust the word of the United States.
    b) Develop nuclear weapons, damn the social or financial costs of doing so.

    The Iranians duly took notes. As did Putin, eager to prove that, unlike Obama, he meant what he said in that he'd defend you if he allied or cut deals with you, and that he didn't particularly care whether you were nice to the local "pro-democracy" elements.

    , @Chrisnonymous

    Khadaffy Duck was crazy and stupid
     
    I think people like him lack some characteristic that prevents the rest of us from behaving like animals. However, they can't be stupid. In fact, I suspect Kaffaffee, and people like him, have a real insight into psychology that the rest of us don't have. Otherwise, they couldn't maintain power so long...
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  31. @NJ Transit Commuter
    How long is it before we see outright colonization of Africa again? The same cast of characters that existed in the late 19th century still exists, just under a slightly different guise:

    Capital backing the colonies
    19th Century: landed English gentry and City banks
    21st Century: multinational corporations and Wall St.

    Earnest do gooders
    19th Century: Protestant missionaries
    21st Century: SJWs

    Colonial administrators:
    19th Century: bored upper middle class English public school graduates
    21st Century: otherwise unemployable African, Women's, etc. Studies majors

    Native Conduct requiring correction:
    19th Century: polygamy, sodomy, paganism
    21st Century: homophobia, transphobia, Christianity

    There’s one missing element: colonial troops willing to shoot into crowds of natives, now and then.

    Somebody (Derbyshire? Dalrymple?) once wrote that in the old days the problem wasn’t getting British/French/Belgian/German soldiers to shoot at the natives, it was getting them to stop shooting.

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    Judging by America’s ongoing multigenerational colonial conflicts in the Middle East, I doubt that will pose much of a problem.
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  32. There remains some affection and nostalgia out there for Quadaffy judging by this elegaic youtube video set to “A Time for Us” of which this is one example of many.

    It was Gaddafi’s decision to stop trading his oil in dollar or euro denominations that was the final straw for the “allies” that destroyed him. Of course this was all in the context of the Arab Spring that destabilized so many Arab countries at the time. Kaddafi’s enemies wouldn’t have dared to attack him except in the context of the greater turmoil at the time.

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  33. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Indeed. The last time I checked, you have a right to shoot at people who are invading you. Seriously, if Europeans realized what's happening, they would bring out the big guns and just keep people away to fend for themselves.

    Think lifeboat. Europe is a lifeboat that can't hold everybody who's floundering out there in the water. Sometimes you have to push them away with the oars, or everyone will die.

    The same must be said for the United States.

    The White Man's homelands are endangered because he has forgotten how ruthless nature really is. His own inventions and success have sheltered and comforted him for so long that he doesn't remember what it's like out there.

    These people are asylum seekers, not invaders.

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    These people are asylum seekers, not invaders.
     
    "Asylum seekers" or "invaders" is an irrelevant distinction. The outcome is the same.
    , @Anonymous
    They are as much 'asylum seekers' as the thugs who bum-rush the local amusement park are 'paying customers'.
    , @Pericles
    When I hear the word 'asylum seeker', I reach for my gun.
    , @Kat Grey
    The overwhelming majority of the migrants taking the Libya to Italy route are military aged men with expensive clothing and Smartphones. This is an invasion of subSaharan Africans who are arriving in such numbers that Italy will soon have crime-infested Shantytowns in all its major cities and towns. And it will be the indigenous Italian females who shall bear the brunt of the catastrophic invasion that will forever change the ethnic makeup of the country. Addio Monica, make way for Malia.
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  34. SnakeEyes says:

    Young Colonel Quadafee looks a bit like Tony Robbins at the River Kwai.

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  35. Moses says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Indeed. The last time I checked, you have a right to shoot at people who are invading you. Seriously, if Europeans realized what's happening, they would bring out the big guns and just keep people away to fend for themselves.

    Think lifeboat. Europe is a lifeboat that can't hold everybody who's floundering out there in the water. Sometimes you have to push them away with the oars, or everyone will die.

    The same must be said for the United States.

    The White Man's homelands are endangered because he has forgotten how ruthless nature really is. His own inventions and success have sheltered and comforted him for so long that he doesn't remember what it's like out there.

    The White Man’s homelands are endangered because he has forgotten how ruthless nature really is. His own inventions and success have sheltered and comforted him for so long that he doesn’t remember what it’s like out there.

    Yes. This is exactly it.

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    It’s incredible.

    Borders are tricky because they are artificially drawn. It decides, ‘this is russia’, ‘this is China’. Or ‘this is US’, ‘this is Mexico’.

    So, borders haven’t been easy to maintain. Enemy could easily come over the border, esp if it’s vast and difficult to protect, like between US and Mexico. Russia had border problems and got invaded many times, and it invaded in turn many times.

    But seas are natural borders. Sure, seas provide opportunity for enemies to come on boats, but that’s a difficult task and requires some doing. Mongols failed to use the seas to take Japan. And UK was saved in WWII by seas. So, oceans offer security to most lands. Only few peoples, esp the British have used the seas effectively to conquer far and wide.

    But now, we have the craziest idiocy. Open Harbors.

    Europe should think it blessed that it is separated from North Africa by seas, but the EU is not only opening its harbors and shores but even using tugboats to drag the invaders to the EU.

    I’ve never seen anything so crazy.

    And they took out the ONE guy who protected EU from Africa.

    How is it that the grubby Gadfly was a bigger European patriot than the clowns who rule that nuthouse?

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  38. Moses says:
    @Anonymous
    These people are asylum seekers, not invaders.

    These people are asylum seekers, not invaders.

    “Asylum seekers” or “invaders” is an irrelevant distinction. The outcome is the same.

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  39. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Re the alleged Libyan ‘slave auctions’.

    I’m just waiting for the shit-storm of protest from the usual quarters – aimed wholly at squarely at *white Europeans* and *NOT* the Libyan perpetrators, for the uniquely white crime of not accommodating every black African in Europe who wants to be accommodated in Europe.

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  40. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    These people are asylum seekers, not invaders.

    They are as much ‘asylum seekers’ as the thugs who bum-rush the local amusement park are ‘paying customers’.

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  41. Moses says:

    Did the late Alan Rickman ever get a chance to play the older Gaddafi?

    I actually lol’d on that one. You’re on a roll today Steve!

    [The resemblance is uncanny -- especially the rictus of haughty disdain.]

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    Put Gaddafi next to the eternally grinning GHWB and you have the laughing/crying theatre masks of Ancient Greece.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    the rictus of haughty disdain
     
    Now that’s a great turn of phrase. Both Rickman (in character) and Qhgkaddaffi also had tired/melancholy eyes mixed with the haughtiness.
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  42. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux

    How long is it before we see outright colonization of Africa again? The same cast of characters that existed in the late 19th century still exists, just under a slightly different guise:
     
    You left out the Chinese.....

    In 1980, the total Sino-African trade volume was US$1 billion.[8] In 1999, it was US$6.5 billion[30] and in 2000, US$10 billion.[8] By 2005, the total Sino-African trade had reached US$39.7 billion before it jumped to US$55 billion in 2006, making China the second largest trading partner of Africa after the United States, which had trade worth US$91 billion with African nations. The PRC also passed the traditional African economic partner and former colonial power France, which had trade worth US$47 billion.[31] In 2010, trade between Africa and China was worth US$114 billion[8] and in 2011, US$166.3 billion.[32] In the first 10 months of 2012 it was US$163.9 billion
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa%E2%80%93China_relations

    Is China the World’s New Colonial Power?
    The rising superpower has built up enormous holdings in poor, resource-rich African countries — but its business partners there aren’t always thrilled.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/02/magazine/is-china-the-worlds-new-colonial-power.html

    They can keep it.

    The very very worst epochal, hubrisitic, existential, messianic etc etc just plain DUMB mistake the ‘white race’ ever made – a mistake which will in all likelihood eventually extinguish it – (no, I’m not talking about taking ‘feminism’ seriously) – is getting involved – far too intimately and ‘fraternally’ – with black Africans.

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  43. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Given that the EU's GDP is around $16 trillion annually, that $5 billion was negligible.

    A lot of Greeks, Italians, Spaniards etc etc rendered destitute by shithead EU policies could sure benefit from that money.

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  44. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @eah
    Italy already has a Navy which could/should be used to turn the boats back, not bring them to European soil -- a bit of extra help from other EU nations with that would not cost 5b€ per year.

    You are assuming the navies of Europe would have to be constantly engaged in up-tempo operations to stop the inflow. In reality if they had sunk, or at least turned back a few boats, the tide would have subsided. But since they rewarded the initial invaders, they got more invaders.

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    There are not many points I miss -- however comments at unz.com disappear down the memory hole -- I have said this several times here: they ought to commandeer the boats and tow them back to the harbor of origin -- then offload the people and sink the boats -- and if that country does not want its harbor to fill up with sunken boats, then they must do more to stop them from leaving -- thanks anyway.
    , @JMcG
    The Irish Navy has two ships of any size. Rather than engage in fishery protection which might actually benefit the people who pay for these ships, they are busy ferrying Africans to Italy. For this service, the Irish warmly congratulate themselves.
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  45. nebulafox says:
    @Anonymous
    Khadaffy Duck was crazy and stupid, but he was smarter than the West in some ways because we have become crazier and stupider.

    After naughty behavior, Reagan smacked the snot out of him, and after that he did what he was supposed to do, and we had him sodomized and murdered for it. Based on that, other dictators like Kim in North Korea have correctly deduced that their only safety is in that essential male member of nationhood, the (weaponized and deliverable) nuclear weapon.

    Apart from stating the cold facts on migration and Libya’s role in keeping it back, he gave up his nuke program after we paid him a little house call after 9/11. Gaddafi was loopy, not stupid. He could tell that US policy in the region was about to take brutal turn and knew from *very* painful personal experience in the 80s that the US could lash out-hard-when messed with too much. Dubya, to his (extremely limited) credit kept his end of the tacit bargain and left the Libyan regime alone, but then along came the Arab Spring, hailed by Time Magazine as the true symbol of Bin Laden’s defeat…

    But we eventually returned the favor years later by having him pistol whipped and left dead in a ditch. Proving in conjunction with what happened to Saddam and Mubarak and what was about to happen to Assad more or less what the North Koreans (who had strong ties to both the Pakistani and Iranian bomb programs) have said to other rogue states interested in dabbling with nukes all along for *decades*: that you should:

    a) Never ever, ever trust the word of the United States.
    b) Develop nuclear weapons, damn the social or financial costs of doing so.

    The Iranians duly took notes. As did Putin, eager to prove that, unlike Obama, he meant what he said in that he’d defend you if he allied or cut deals with you, and that he didn’t particularly care whether you were nice to the local “pro-democracy” elements.

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    Yes, it would be interesting to know what other regimes like NK, Iran, Syria have learned from Libya.
    , @El Dato

    he gave up his nuke program after we paid him a little house call after 9/11.
     
    Which he didn't have btw.

    Even less than Mr. Hussein at any time after Gulf War I.
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  46. @Anonymous
    Khadaffy Duck was crazy and stupid, but he was smarter than the West in some ways because we have become crazier and stupider.

    After naughty behavior, Reagan smacked the snot out of him, and after that he did what he was supposed to do, and we had him sodomized and murdered for it. Based on that, other dictators like Kim in North Korea have correctly deduced that their only safety is in that essential male member of nationhood, the (weaponized and deliverable) nuclear weapon.

    Khadaffy Duck was crazy and stupid

    I think people like him lack some characteristic that prevents the rest of us from behaving like animals. However, they can’t be stupid. In fact, I suspect Kaffaffee, and people like him, have a real insight into psychology that the rest of us don’t have. Otherwise, they couldn’t maintain power so long…

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    You should know better than to believe MSM on the subject of a "dictator" that appears to be revered by his own people and hated by American. Qadaffi made Libya bloom in the southern part of the country. He was using oil money to in Library what the Israelis had done in Israel, turning desert into fertile soil. One Libyan during the "revolt" was quoted as wondering what the hell was going on. Libyans were fine. Any Libyan could take out a loan and get money for education, a house, etc. They did not want Qadaffi removed. Clinton wanted Qadaffi removed, and her banker buddies, because Libya was not playing by the globalist rules of banking. Most of the middle eastern countries were not, which is why the neocons targeted them for destruction in the 1990s. Seven countries. Now, the only countries not playing are North Korea and Cuba, I think.
    Should have just paid him to keep Africa out of Europe. But no. Clinton had to get her money.
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  47. off topic found at drudge http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ex-ala-prevent-roy-moore-harassing-cheerleaders-article-1.3648980

    new Judge Moore accuser – retired cop says Moore had to be watched to keep him from harassing cheerleaders at local school games in the 80′s

    They’ve really got him this time

    Can someone please help a brother out and identify this creatures race and gender

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/21/exclusive-alabama-poll-roy-moore-leads-radical-democrat-doug-jones-six-points/

    Meanwhile new poll shows Moore at +6% among likely voters

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    The Rising Sun passes by....
    , @El Dato

    Can someone please help a brother out and identify this creatures race and gender
     
    It's from "Mars Attacks"?
    , @Hyperborean
    It looks like a man pretending be a white girl pretending to be a black girl who is pretending to be a lawyer. The fact that "Faye Gary" sounds like a pseudonym doesn't help.
    , @Pericles
    Dandelion-American.
    , @bomag

    ...said the department took no action against Moore because it never received complaints on the allegations.
     
    Kind of a problem in this case: no official record.

    Our local do-nothing department at least generates a record of some kind on every incident. The responding officer could have filed a report on observed behavior if it really rose to the level of needing an officer present.

    Instead we get people with cartoon hair repeating allegations from thirty-plus years ago.

    , @Maya
    It's what's her face- Rachel Dolezal. A transrace individual. And I haven't seen her gender discussed during the whole race switching bruhaha, so she probably doesn't have one. A transrace agender individual.
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  48. @nebulafox
    Apart from stating the cold facts on migration and Libya's role in keeping it back, he gave up his nuke program after we paid him a little house call after 9/11. Gaddafi was loopy, not stupid. He could tell that US policy in the region was about to take brutal turn and knew from *very* painful personal experience in the 80s that the US could lash out-hard-when messed with too much. Dubya, to his (extremely limited) credit kept his end of the tacit bargain and left the Libyan regime alone, but then along came the Arab Spring, hailed by Time Magazine as the true symbol of Bin Laden's defeat...

    But we eventually returned the favor years later by having him pistol whipped and left dead in a ditch. Proving in conjunction with what happened to Saddam and Mubarak and what was about to happen to Assad more or less what the North Koreans (who had strong ties to both the Pakistani and Iranian bomb programs) have said to other rogue states interested in dabbling with nukes all along for *decades*: that you should:

    a) Never ever, ever trust the word of the United States.
    b) Develop nuclear weapons, damn the social or financial costs of doing so.

    The Iranians duly took notes. As did Putin, eager to prove that, unlike Obama, he meant what he said in that he'd defend you if he allied or cut deals with you, and that he didn't particularly care whether you were nice to the local "pro-democracy" elements.

    Yes, it would be interesting to know what other regimes like NK, Iran, Syria have learned from Libya.

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  49. nebulafox says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    How long is it before we see outright colonization of Africa again? The same cast of characters that existed in the late 19th century still exists, just under a slightly different guise:

    Capital backing the colonies
    19th Century: landed English gentry and City banks
    21st Century: multinational corporations and Wall St.

    Earnest do gooders
    19th Century: Protestant missionaries
    21st Century: SJWs

    Colonial administrators:
    19th Century: bored upper middle class English public school graduates
    21st Century: otherwise unemployable African, Women's, etc. Studies majors

    Native Conduct requiring correction:
    19th Century: polygamy, sodomy, paganism
    21st Century: homophobia, transphobia, Christianity

    Sending SJWs to hector Africans? Pretty much a Chinese propagandist’s dream come true. Most of the locals want jobs, clean water, technology, bread, improving living standards, stability and order: not lectures from some ambiguously gendered liberal arts grad on the finer points of democracy and feminism.

    Completely against American interests! So, naturally, that will be the first thing the government does.

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    Most of the locals want jobs, clean water, technology, bread, improving living standards, stability and order
     
    Sorry to disappoint you but ...
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  50. eah says:
    @anonymous
    You are assuming the navies of Europe would have to be constantly engaged in up-tempo operations to stop the inflow. In reality if they had sunk, or at least turned back a few boats, the tide would have subsided. But since they rewarded the initial invaders, they got more invaders.

    There are not many points I miss — however comments at unz.com disappear down the memory hole — I have said this several times here: they ought to commandeer the boats and tow them back to the harbor of origin — then offload the people and sink the boats — and if that country does not want its harbor to fill up with sunken boats, then they must do more to stop them from leaving — thanks anyway.

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    • Replies: @Moses
    The Euros need to borrow a page from the Aussie playbook. They stopped ALL boats coming and solved the boat people problem by taking a hard line. No more drownings, no more smuggling, no more boat people.

    Check out this cheerful video of a friendly, welcoming Australian immigration enforcement officer:

    If the embed doesn't work click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT12WH4a92w

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  51. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @jesse helms think-alike
    off topic found at drudge http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ex-ala-prevent-roy-moore-harassing-cheerleaders-article-1.3648980

    new Judge Moore accuser - retired cop says Moore had to be watched to keep him from harassing cheerleaders at local school games in the 80's

    They've really got him this time

    Can someone please help a brother out and identify this creatures race and gender

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3648979.1511295713!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/accuser22n-1-web.jpg

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/21/exclusive-alabama-poll-roy-moore-leads-radical-democrat-doug-jones-six-points/
    Meanwhile new poll shows Moore at +6% among likely voters

    The Rising Sun passes by….

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  52. El Dato says:

    Ghadaffi being best friend of Muh Democracy:

    Until he wasn’t.

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  53. El Dato says:
    @nebulafox
    Apart from stating the cold facts on migration and Libya's role in keeping it back, he gave up his nuke program after we paid him a little house call after 9/11. Gaddafi was loopy, not stupid. He could tell that US policy in the region was about to take brutal turn and knew from *very* painful personal experience in the 80s that the US could lash out-hard-when messed with too much. Dubya, to his (extremely limited) credit kept his end of the tacit bargain and left the Libyan regime alone, but then along came the Arab Spring, hailed by Time Magazine as the true symbol of Bin Laden's defeat...

    But we eventually returned the favor years later by having him pistol whipped and left dead in a ditch. Proving in conjunction with what happened to Saddam and Mubarak and what was about to happen to Assad more or less what the North Koreans (who had strong ties to both the Pakistani and Iranian bomb programs) have said to other rogue states interested in dabbling with nukes all along for *decades*: that you should:

    a) Never ever, ever trust the word of the United States.
    b) Develop nuclear weapons, damn the social or financial costs of doing so.

    The Iranians duly took notes. As did Putin, eager to prove that, unlike Obama, he meant what he said in that he'd defend you if he allied or cut deals with you, and that he didn't particularly care whether you were nice to the local "pro-democracy" elements.

    he gave up his nuke program after we paid him a little house call after 9/11.

    Which he didn’t have btw.

    Even less than Mr. Hussein at any time after Gulf War I.

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    Just because a country doesn't have nukes doesn't mean it isn't interested in possibly developing them, or achieving nuclear latency, if the ruler deems it desirable or necessary. Gaddafi didn't really have the infrastructure to build a bomb himself, unlike the Iranians (who inherited the Shah's nuclear plants while stupidly purging many of the scientists in the 80s-which is why Iran doesn't have a bomb already), so he was dabbling with Abdul Qadeer Khan's black market. He wasn't the only one-apartheid South Africa, Iran, North Korea, all of them worked close with Mr. Khan.

    But the main point of the post was that in 2003, he agreed to give up any nuclear ambitions in exchange for security. We didn't hold up our end of the bargain, and that sends a powerful message to other countries who have a choice between trusting the US and developing nukes. Credibility matters in foreign policy: anybody who claims it doesn't has never seriously interacted with non-pleasant foreign governments.

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  54. El Dato says:
    @jesse helms think-alike
    off topic found at drudge http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ex-ala-prevent-roy-moore-harassing-cheerleaders-article-1.3648980

    new Judge Moore accuser - retired cop says Moore had to be watched to keep him from harassing cheerleaders at local school games in the 80's

    They've really got him this time

    Can someone please help a brother out and identify this creatures race and gender

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3648979.1511295713!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/accuser22n-1-web.jpg

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/21/exclusive-alabama-poll-roy-moore-leads-radical-democrat-doug-jones-six-points/
    Meanwhile new poll shows Moore at +6% among likely voters

    Can someone please help a brother out and identify this creatures race and gender

    It’s from “Mars Attacks”?

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  55. @jesse helms think-alike
    off topic found at drudge http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ex-ala-prevent-roy-moore-harassing-cheerleaders-article-1.3648980

    new Judge Moore accuser - retired cop says Moore had to be watched to keep him from harassing cheerleaders at local school games in the 80's

    They've really got him this time

    Can someone please help a brother out and identify this creatures race and gender

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3648979.1511295713!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/accuser22n-1-web.jpg

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/21/exclusive-alabama-poll-roy-moore-leads-radical-democrat-doug-jones-six-points/
    Meanwhile new poll shows Moore at +6% among likely voters

    It looks like a man pretending be a white girl pretending to be a black girl who is pretending to be a lawyer. The fact that “Faye Gary” sounds like a pseudonym doesn’t help.

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  56. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous
    These people are asylum seekers, not invaders.

    When I hear the word ‘asylum seeker’, I reach for my gun.

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  57. Pericles says:
    @Moses

    Did the late Alan Rickman ever get a chance to play the older Gaddafi?
     
    I actually lol'd on that one. You're on a roll today Steve!

    [The resemblance is uncanny -- especially the rictus of haughty disdain.]

    Put Gaddafi next to the eternally grinning GHWB and you have the laughing/crying theatre masks of Ancient Greece.

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  58. Pericles says:
    @jesse helms think-alike
    off topic found at drudge http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ex-ala-prevent-roy-moore-harassing-cheerleaders-article-1.3648980

    new Judge Moore accuser - retired cop says Moore had to be watched to keep him from harassing cheerleaders at local school games in the 80's

    They've really got him this time

    Can someone please help a brother out and identify this creatures race and gender

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3648979.1511295713!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/accuser22n-1-web.jpg

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/21/exclusive-alabama-poll-roy-moore-leads-radical-democrat-doug-jones-six-points/
    Meanwhile new poll shows Moore at +6% among likely voters

    Dandelion-American.

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  59. Pericles says:
    @nebulafox
    Sending SJWs to hector Africans? Pretty much a Chinese propagandist's dream come true. Most of the locals want jobs, clean water, technology, bread, improving living standards, stability and order: not lectures from some ambiguously gendered liberal arts grad on the finer points of democracy and feminism.

    Completely against American interests! So, naturally, that will be the first thing the government does.

    Most of the locals want jobs, clean water, technology, bread, improving living standards, stability and order

    Sorry to disappoint you but …

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    No, really. Black, white, yellow, brown, everybody has the same basic needs: food, shelter, order, etc. There's no race on Earth consisting of people who want to starve. It's *how* people choose to achieve this for their societies that cultures can vastly differ. Look at Kagame and Museveni in the Great Lakes region. One reason the former's non-subtle goal of de-facto annexing the Eastern Congo might just work is because the locals will prefer his rule to Kinshasa's, for good reason.

    I'm reminded of what I said about Suharto once when explaining why many older Indonesians really don't care about the corruption or his massacres of leftists, Timorese, and Islamists: if you give tens of millions of utterly impoverished people concrete improvements in life-clean water supply, getting rid of starvation for most, end to hyperinflation, and political anarchy, end to stupid and fatal diseases that disappeared in the West centuries ago, mass literacy for the kids who go on to have better lives, etc-they are not going to care about not having freedom of speech and will likely go along with otherwise unpopular social reforms that might be defeated under a democracy. And chances are, your people will be *happy* for you if you get massively rich off of corruption while you go about dragging your nation into the modern age.

    (The new generation of middle class born during your economically booming reign, however, is a different story, having not known starvation and chaos. The downfall of many an Asian dictatorship in the 80s and 90s can be seen in this lens, and even to an extent, China transforming from a totalitarian state to what is essentially now akin to 1980s South Korea or Taiwan. Knowing more about the world outside their borders helps, too, with the Internet massively expanding this dimension.)

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  60. Ed says:

    Yet McMaster, who believes in all of these foreigners interventions, thinks Trump is the dumb one.

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    Yet McMaster, who believes in all of these foreigners interventions, thinks Trump is the dumb one.

    Ok.
     

    Don’t you love it? Guy who was a history student at state schools, and then a career government employee, questioning the intelligence of the Ivy League-educated Manhattan billionaire. I’m sure Trump cares more about the assessment of Jewish Ivy League-educated billionaires who’ve have talked up Trump smarts (Icahn, Kraft, Wynn, et al.). But still it’s maddening this career goon psychopath doesn’t understand his role and limited nature.
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  61. Ed says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    How long is it before we see outright colonization of Africa again? The same cast of characters that existed in the late 19th century still exists, just under a slightly different guise:

    Capital backing the colonies
    19th Century: landed English gentry and City banks
    21st Century: multinational corporations and Wall St.

    Earnest do gooders
    19th Century: Protestant missionaries
    21st Century: SJWs

    Colonial administrators:
    19th Century: bored upper middle class English public school graduates
    21st Century: otherwise unemployable African, Women's, etc. Studies majors

    Native Conduct requiring correction:
    19th Century: polygamy, sodomy, paganism
    21st Century: homophobia, transphobia, Christianity

    Colonization will return. It’s quite clear Africans can’t govern themselves at a level that delivers even a modicum of modern life to its inhabitants.

    Only a few countries in the continent even come anywhere close. In order to keep the hordes away the great powers will have to intervene. Except this time around it’ll include China and not the UK.

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    Colonization will return.
     
    I don't imagine it will work out any better this time around.

    Some things are baked in too deep.
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  62. bomag says:
    @EricCh
    Happy to see Europe self-destruct. Those self-righteous pricks deserve what is coming.

    Happy to see Europe self-destruct. Those self-righteous pricks deserve what is coming.

    I’ve always been told that immigrants are industrious GDP builders. And they bring diversity, of which more is better. It’s all upside, from what my handlers tell me.

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  63. bomag says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Indeed. The last time I checked, you have a right to shoot at people who are invading you. Seriously, if Europeans realized what's happening, they would bring out the big guns and just keep people away to fend for themselves.

    Think lifeboat. Europe is a lifeboat that can't hold everybody who's floundering out there in the water. Sometimes you have to push them away with the oars, or everyone will die.

    The same must be said for the United States.

    The White Man's homelands are endangered because he has forgotten how ruthless nature really is. His own inventions and success have sheltered and comforted him for so long that he doesn't remember what it's like out there.

    Environmentalists have been lecturing us about the risks of modern society that may doom us: too much plastic; too much CO2; etc.

    Maybe they should have warned us about too many Africans.

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  64. bomag says:
    @Ed
    Colonization will return. It’s quite clear Africans can’t govern themselves at a level that delivers even a modicum of modern life to its inhabitants.


    Only a few countries in the continent even come anywhere close. In order to keep the hordes away the great powers will have to intervene. Except this time around it’ll include China and not the UK.

    Colonization will return.

    I don’t imagine it will work out any better this time around.

    Some things are baked in too deep.

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  65. bomag says:
    @jesse helms think-alike
    off topic found at drudge http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ex-ala-prevent-roy-moore-harassing-cheerleaders-article-1.3648980

    new Judge Moore accuser - retired cop says Moore had to be watched to keep him from harassing cheerleaders at local school games in the 80's

    They've really got him this time

    Can someone please help a brother out and identify this creatures race and gender

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3648979.1511295713!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/accuser22n-1-web.jpg

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/21/exclusive-alabama-poll-roy-moore-leads-radical-democrat-doug-jones-six-points/
    Meanwhile new poll shows Moore at +6% among likely voters

    …said the department took no action against Moore because it never received complaints on the allegations.

    Kind of a problem in this case: no official record.

    Our local do-nothing department at least generates a record of some kind on every incident. The responding officer could have filed a report on observed behavior if it really rose to the level of needing an officer present.

    Instead we get people with cartoon hair repeating allegations from thirty-plus years ago.

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  66. @Moses

    Did the late Alan Rickman ever get a chance to play the older Gaddafi?
     
    I actually lol'd on that one. You're on a roll today Steve!

    [The resemblance is uncanny -- especially the rictus of haughty disdain.]

    the rictus of haughty disdain

    Now that’s a great turn of phrase. Both Rickman (in character) and Qhgkaddaffi also had tired/melancholy eyes mixed with the haughtiness.

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    Now that’s a great turn of phrase.
     
    Aww, shucks. Thanks.
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  67. Moses says:
    @eah
    There are not many points I miss -- however comments at unz.com disappear down the memory hole -- I have said this several times here: they ought to commandeer the boats and tow them back to the harbor of origin -- then offload the people and sink the boats -- and if that country does not want its harbor to fill up with sunken boats, then they must do more to stop them from leaving -- thanks anyway.

    The Euros need to borrow a page from the Aussie playbook. They stopped ALL boats coming and solved the boat people problem by taking a hard line. No more drownings, no more smuggling, no more boat people.

    Check out this cheerful video of a friendly, welcoming Australian immigration enforcement officer:

    If the embed doesn’t work click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT12WH4a92w

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  68. Moses says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    the rictus of haughty disdain
     
    Now that’s a great turn of phrase. Both Rickman (in character) and Qhgkaddaffi also had tired/melancholy eyes mixed with the haughtiness.

    Now that’s a great turn of phrase.

    Aww, shucks. Thanks.

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  69. JMcG says:
    @anonymous
    You are assuming the navies of Europe would have to be constantly engaged in up-tempo operations to stop the inflow. In reality if they had sunk, or at least turned back a few boats, the tide would have subsided. But since they rewarded the initial invaders, they got more invaders.

    The Irish Navy has two ships of any size. Rather than engage in fishery protection which might actually benefit the people who pay for these ships, they are busy ferrying Africans to Italy. For this service, the Irish warmly congratulate themselves.

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  70. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Ed
    Yet McMaster, who believes in all of these foreigners interventions, thinks Trump is the dumb one.


    Ok.

    Yet McMaster, who believes in all of these foreigners interventions, thinks Trump is the dumb one.

    Ok.

    Don’t you love it? Guy who was a history student at state schools, and then a career government employee, questioning the intelligence of the Ivy League-educated Manhattan billionaire. I’m sure Trump cares more about the assessment of Jewish Ivy League-educated billionaires who’ve have talked up Trump smarts (Icahn, Kraft, Wynn, et al.). But still it’s maddening this career goon psychopath doesn’t understand his role and limited nature.

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  71. c matt says:
    @anon
    We came , we saw , he died , cackle cackle cackle cackle , guffaw guffaw lolololzlzlzlz

    Updated to: I ran, I cheated, I lost.

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  72. Wilkey says:

    “All the Wall Streeters, SJWs, otherwise unemployable African, Women’s, etc. Studies majors go to the other side of the world, run the new colonial empire, and never return to America.”

    Christian missionaries and old school Peace Corps types believed in enduring hardships in order to help poor Third Worlders improve their lives where they lived. Modern SJWs only want to pretend to care about the poor but don’t want to actually spend any significant part of their lives doing anything about it. Maybe they’ll visit Nicaragua for a week or so to help teach Nicaraguans how to start a goat farm – because who knows more about running a goat farm than an upper middle class city kid trying to burnish his resume – but live there for years on end? Not hardly.

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  73. L Woods says:
    @anon
    We came , we saw , he died , cackle cackle cackle cackle , guffaw guffaw lolololzlzlzlz

    Cough cough wheeze

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  74. L Woods says:
    @International Jew
    There's one missing element: colonial troops willing to shoot into crowds of natives, now and then.

    Somebody (Derbyshire? Dalrymple?) once wrote that in the old days the problem wasn't getting British/French/Belgian/German soldiers to shoot at the natives, it was getting them to stop shooting.

    Judging by America’s ongoing multigenerational colonial conflicts in the Middle East, I doubt that will pose much of a problem.

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  75. dcite says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Khadaffy Duck was crazy and stupid
     
    I think people like him lack some characteristic that prevents the rest of us from behaving like animals. However, they can't be stupid. In fact, I suspect Kaffaffee, and people like him, have a real insight into psychology that the rest of us don't have. Otherwise, they couldn't maintain power so long...

    You should know better than to believe MSM on the subject of a “dictator” that appears to be revered by his own people and hated by American. Qadaffi made Libya bloom in the southern part of the country. He was using oil money to in Library what the Israelis had done in Israel, turning desert into fertile soil. One Libyan during the “revolt” was quoted as wondering what the hell was going on. Libyans were fine. Any Libyan could take out a loan and get money for education, a house, etc. They did not want Qadaffi removed. Clinton wanted Qadaffi removed, and her banker buddies, because Libya was not playing by the globalist rules of banking. Most of the middle eastern countries were not, which is why the neocons targeted them for destruction in the 1990s. Seven countries. Now, the only countries not playing are North Korea and Cuba, I think.
    Should have just paid him to keep Africa out of Europe. But no. Clinton had to get her money.

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  76. Will Hillary ever pay for the debacles of Benghazi and taking Qaddafi out? It’s been said that the millstone of justice grinds slowly but exceedingly fine so perhaps time will tell.

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    I would bet my last dollar that she will not. She's much more likely to die before any such "justice."
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  77. yeah says:
    @Anonymous
    @Ivy



    Merkel should contribute, too. Italy is one of the lines of defense...


    Merkel only believes in lines of surrender. She's open about this issue. Many, many Germans agree.

    German ethny is high IQ but easily duped by any political ideology that offers supposed moral high ground.

    “German ethny is high IQ but easily duped by any political ideology that offers supposed moral high ground”

    Now you have me truly confused. If they are truly smart (high IQ) then how come they are dumb-easy to dupe? Either being smart (high IQ) does not confer any real-world advantage, or they may not really be that smart.

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    Sadly, the tendency toward pathological altruism - a heritable(?) personality characteristic not directly linked to intelligence - is deeply ingrained in the Northern European gene pool ... hence, the Teutonic and Nordic march toward societal Selbstmord.

    The Teutons and Nords are bright enough, but they're far too trusting. Hundreds of years ago, an inbred willingness to help a neighbor in need might have come in handy during those long, brutal winters; in 2017, it isn't doing them any good in the wake of the Black Migration.

    IQ gurus, is it true that Scandinavians have a steeper bell curve than Anglo-Saxons? More normals, but fewer dullards and fewer geniuses?
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  78. Jim Given says:

    Muhammar Qadafi: a genuine creation of the American Empire. Brought to power by one criminal (Armand Hammer); deposed by another (Hillary Clinton). Mind you, both of them respected as Senior American Statesmen. What if America took foreign policy seriously as a nation?

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  79. @PiltdownMan

    Did the late Alan Rickman ever get a chance to play the older Gaddafi?
     
    Perhaps Robert Plant (with hair suitably colored) or Carlos Santana (with a few more wrinkles) could do the job, now that Alan Rickman is no longer with us.

    How about Edward James Olmos?

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  80. @anon
    We came , we saw , he died , cackle cackle cackle cackle , guffaw guffaw lolololzlzlzlz

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  81. @yeah
    "German ethny is high IQ but easily duped by any political ideology that offers supposed moral high ground"

    Now you have me truly confused. If they are truly smart (high IQ) then how come they are dumb-easy to dupe? Either being smart (high IQ) does not confer any real-world advantage, or they may not really be that smart.

    Sadly, the tendency toward pathological altruism – a heritable(?) personality characteristic not directly linked to intelligence – is deeply ingrained in the Northern European gene pool … hence, the Teutonic and Nordic march toward societal Selbstmord.

    The Teutons and Nords are bright enough, but they’re far too trusting. Hundreds of years ago, an inbred willingness to help a neighbor in need might have come in handy during those long, brutal winters; in 2017, it isn’t doing them any good in the wake of the Black Migration.

    IQ gurus, is it true that Scandinavians have a steeper bell curve than Anglo-Saxons? More normals, but fewer dullards and fewer geniuses?

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  82. @Simply Simon
    Will Hillary ever pay for the debacles of Benghazi and taking Qaddafi out? It's been said that the millstone of justice grinds slowly but exceedingly fine so perhaps time will tell.

    I would bet my last dollar that she will not. She’s much more likely to die before any such “justice.”

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  83. I think it is interesting that even in death this poor man can’t get his name consistently spelled in English. Based on a 1986 letter, it should be Moammar Gadhafi.

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  84. Maya says:
    @jesse helms think-alike
    off topic found at drudge http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ex-ala-prevent-roy-moore-harassing-cheerleaders-article-1.3648980

    new Judge Moore accuser - retired cop says Moore had to be watched to keep him from harassing cheerleaders at local school games in the 80's

    They've really got him this time

    Can someone please help a brother out and identify this creatures race and gender

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3648979.1511295713!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/accuser22n-1-web.jpg

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/21/exclusive-alabama-poll-roy-moore-leads-radical-democrat-doug-jones-six-points/
    Meanwhile new poll shows Moore at +6% among likely voters

    It’s what’s her face- Rachel Dolezal. A transrace individual. And I haven’t seen her gender discussed during the whole race switching bruhaha, so she probably doesn’t have one. A transrace agender individual.

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  85. Kat Grey says:
    @Anonymous
    These people are asylum seekers, not invaders.

    The overwhelming majority of the migrants taking the Libya to Italy route are military aged men with expensive clothing and Smartphones. This is an invasion of subSaharan Africans who are arriving in such numbers that Italy will soon have crime-infested Shantytowns in all its major cities and towns. And it will be the indigenous Italian females who shall bear the brunt of the catastrophic invasion that will forever change the ethnic makeup of the country. Addio Monica, make way for Malia.

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  86. nebulafox says:
    @El Dato

    he gave up his nuke program after we paid him a little house call after 9/11.
     
    Which he didn't have btw.

    Even less than Mr. Hussein at any time after Gulf War I.

    Just because a country doesn’t have nukes doesn’t mean it isn’t interested in possibly developing them, or achieving nuclear latency, if the ruler deems it desirable or necessary. Gaddafi didn’t really have the infrastructure to build a bomb himself, unlike the Iranians (who inherited the Shah’s nuclear plants while stupidly purging many of the scientists in the 80s-which is why Iran doesn’t have a bomb already), so he was dabbling with Abdul Qadeer Khan’s black market. He wasn’t the only one-apartheid South Africa, Iran, North Korea, all of them worked close with Mr. Khan.

    But the main point of the post was that in 2003, he agreed to give up any nuclear ambitions in exchange for security. We didn’t hold up our end of the bargain, and that sends a powerful message to other countries who have a choice between trusting the US and developing nukes. Credibility matters in foreign policy: anybody who claims it doesn’t has never seriously interacted with non-pleasant foreign governments.

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  87. nebulafox says:
    @Pericles

    Most of the locals want jobs, clean water, technology, bread, improving living standards, stability and order
     
    Sorry to disappoint you but ...

    No, really. Black, white, yellow, brown, everybody has the same basic needs: food, shelter, order, etc. There’s no race on Earth consisting of people who want to starve. It’s *how* people choose to achieve this for their societies that cultures can vastly differ. Look at Kagame and Museveni in the Great Lakes region. One reason the former’s non-subtle goal of de-facto annexing the Eastern Congo might just work is because the locals will prefer his rule to Kinshasa’s, for good reason.

    I’m reminded of what I said about Suharto once when explaining why many older Indonesians really don’t care about the corruption or his massacres of leftists, Timorese, and Islamists: if you give tens of millions of utterly impoverished people concrete improvements in life-clean water supply, getting rid of starvation for most, end to hyperinflation, and political anarchy, end to stupid and fatal diseases that disappeared in the West centuries ago, mass literacy for the kids who go on to have better lives, etc-they are not going to care about not having freedom of speech and will likely go along with otherwise unpopular social reforms that might be defeated under a democracy. And chances are, your people will be *happy* for you if you get massively rich off of corruption while you go about dragging your nation into the modern age.

    (The new generation of middle class born during your economically booming reign, however, is a different story, having not known starvation and chaos. The downfall of many an Asian dictatorship in the 80s and 90s can be seen in this lens, and even to an extent, China transforming from a totalitarian state to what is essentially now akin to 1980s South Korea or Taiwan. Knowing more about the world outside their borders helps, too, with the Internet massively expanding this dimension.)

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