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In comparing Charles Murray to Hitler, Yglesias, the #2 guy at Vox, is quoting The Clash’s White Man in Hammersmith Palais.

All over people changing their votes
Along with their overcoats
If Adolf Hitler flew in today
They’d send a limousine anyway

But … isn’t being a Clash fan a symptom of … Implicit White Identity? I mean, while the Clash spent a lot of time virtue-signaling, their song titles like “White Man” and “White Riot” were dog-whistling. Although dog-whistling isn’t le mot juste for this 120 decibel performance of “White Riot” in front of 500,000 upraised white arms:

White riot – I want to riot
White riot – a riot of my own
White riot – I want to riot
White riot – a riot of my own
Black people gotta lot a problems
But they don’t mind throwing a brick
White people go to school
Where they teach you how to be thick

That’s not too implicit.

Here’s an awfully racist (or racially woke) Clash song about the high black crime rate in Jamaica:

I went to the place
Where every white face
Is an invitation to robbery
An’ sitting here in my safe European home
I don’t want to go back there again

Joe Strummer, like Charles Murray, was a Noticer, which means he was Literally Hitler.

Matthew Yglesias noticed that the two black guys who played Knock Out Game on his skull on May 15, 2011 for Walking While White were black, so he’s Literally Hitler too.

Isn’t everybody?

 
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  1. Ezra Pound’s complicated discontent with the English was distilled toward the end of his life by the remark that “they don’t call things by their proper name.” Pound was noticing an insidious scourge that George Orwell elaborated to a logical extreme; but more precisely he was locating the central style of English snobbery in the habit of damning with faint praise. That’s a mode a irony, and the best way to keep things civil is probably to be subtle. But when Ezra Pound and Wyndham Lewis were living in pre-war London, the business of the day was to blow things up– hence that stillborn mag called Blast.

    No one remembers how precisely terrified Bloomsbury was of Wyndham Lewis in those days, but everyone remembers that Virginia Woolf said human character changed on or about December 1910. Which was an eminently English way of acknowledging an inglorious reality by prevaricating. By December 1910, Ezra Pound was in touch with Yeats and impressing London patrons like a literati peacock looking to be enthroned. The English language had come into the care of the Irish, and this upstart from Idaho was staking his own claim to the heritage by making that point blunt.

    That prevarication is a kind of comprise must be the conceit of those who think they are living in an age that’s more objective than subjective. When plain facts stand to reason that your time is running out, prevaricating is really just a way to buy time. The English Parliament passed the Home Rule Act of 1914 so that Irishmen on the Western Front could take heart that they were fighting for their country’s freedom. That though was an especially perfidious comprise, due to the stipulation regarding the to-be-determined status of Northern Ireland, and that incited an armed mentality among Ulster Unionists, which could only be met by the tri-color that proclaimed a Republic.

    One week, but just one week after Sinn Fein proclaimed they stood behind De Valera for a Republic, the Balfour Declaration was issued to the second Baron Rothschild for transmission to The Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. Funny how the English call things by their proper name when addressing the wrong people. Nothing matters very much and few things matter at all— we really don’t know why that declaration needed to be done. It’s enticing to guess it was done on the fly, out of spite, when the English saw all that delirium of the brave called the Rising was not ephemeral, and desired to damn Ireland with faint praise by a sovereign recognition—for its efforts toward Zionism.

    One reason to suspect that shabby motive was behind the Balfour Declaration is that about three months prior was when Sinn Fein showed up in droves like never before to make a demand; they wanted the bodies of the men who had been executed over a year since then returned so that they could be put to rest. Holding the graves of our Fenian dead was long a profound thing to the Irish, and once became that hallowed ground called Glasnevin. Which is to say, the English knew what they were doing and it wasn’t beneath them one bit. “Irish sentimentality will turn these graves into martyrs’ shrines to which annual processions will be made, which would cause constant irritation in this country.”

    There is a shrine in Stratford upon Avon for a guy who was never in the habit of spelling his name, did not own any books, and was thoughtful about his second best bed. Patrick Pearse was a poet, and so was Thomas MacDonagh—”He might have one fame in the end.” Sorry to say but stupid Anglo-Saxons and their vanglorious cousins in this country don’t have a clue about poets like that. Anyways, One day, William Butler Yeats will be to Ireland what Shakespeare is to England; but that may rather happen when we will be saying what Shakespeare was to England–when this myth of a plebeian who could uncannily becomes kings is over and done and dispelled. When that spell is broken, well I do believe the Irish will be all the more proud to say our Willie Yeats knew some prize magic.

    That’s why they don’t say that just yet, and why the many Irish poets who have come since him make a point of keep their distance from him, and especially his symbols, for example The Fool (I have old photos that show motley was the only wear in Irish Ireland). Deliberately evading his influence is the understood matter of course for Irish poets because of Yeats astounding book on magic called A Vision. It still embarrasses, which means, according to its own terms, that the age overall is still quite too objective to accept mummy truths.

    A 2016 analysis by Factiva showed that lines from the poem have been quoted more often in the first seven months of 2016 than in any of the preceding 30 years[5] in the context of political turmoil after Brexit referendum and President Donald Trump election with commentators repeatedly invoking its lines: “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.

    More and more I think little statistics like that matter as much as any sign of the times. That we see that sign become itself exactly one hundred years after Easter 1916 only makes me the more certain. That poem, Easter 1916, is undeniably the heart and soul of Yeats body of work, especially if everyone cares to give that importance to The Second Coming. That poem is haunting indeed, mysterious beyond mystifying. But one thing to consider— which you won’t hear anywhere else— is that declaration from Balfour and it’s timing. Also consider the sphinx, as you brush up on what tormented St. Patrick when he proved himself. Then familiarize yourself with the Giant’s Causeway and the blessings of God be on you. Finally there are the Sheela- na- gigs: “Hearts with one purpose alone through summer and winter seem enchanted to a stone to trouble the living stream.”

    Keep in mind if you can help it that magic is not prophecy: Yeats did not know that that Easter was the 300th anniversary of Shakespeare’s death til after sentimentalism had moved him. But there is an outstanding prophecy legend ascribes to an Irishman that has captured certain minds with absolute immediacy, and the name to know is Saint Malachy. Captured those minds probably because of that other prophecy, from the little girl at Fatima, and what about 1960 made its meaning “more clear.”

    Ireland will remain Ireland as long as she is Irish and the English-speaking world’s uneasy conscience. Joe Sobran said that to me. The only reason I wrote is because the most oddly influential place in the history of Western Civilization is Ireland without a doubt. Despite Thomas Cahill’s admirable effort, I don’t see that that story has every fully been told. Mysterious wisdom won by toil: I often wonder about that Greek captain who called Ireland the Sacred Isle in 525 BC. What did he know that we don’t?

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  2. Notice Yglesias being disingenuous about the point he’s trying to make in the replies to his original tweet.

    “What are you talking about? I was just quoting some Clash lyrics…”

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    • Replies: @jon

    Notice Yglesias being disingenuous about the point he’s trying to make in the replies to his original tweet.
     
    And now the original tweet is gone.
    , @Altai
    The best part is he is doing this despite being a 'public intellectual' and likely not knowing who Murray was before this. Like with the confusion with the 'Alt-Right', 'Alt-Lite' and 'Alt-Left', these people have no idea what political points this new political order is making and why they are so much better fitted to the times.

    It's amusing to watch because we're watching the total fall of the legacy media and they are too incompetent to know how to stop it.

  3. Toured and hung out with the Clash back in the day, great bunch of people but clueless doesn’t even come close.

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  4. Steve,

    So CM is bewitched, bothered and bewildered about Yglesias’s tweet.

    It couldn’t happen to a nicer and more deserving cuck!

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  5. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Deep State, a growing meme

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    • Replies: @ben tillman
    Sometimes, when controversy arises (like the Trayvon Martin thing) and you're afraid that fake news is going to be the first draft of fake history, it's worth visiting the Last Refuge / Conservative Treehouse for a well-organized assessment of the facts.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/03/the-shadow-government-timeline/

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/04/towergate-begins-yes-if-trump-is-correct-even-partially-then-president-obama-might-be-in-big-trouble/#more-129509
    , @Bill
    Not a good thing. First, they embrace your meme. Then, they change its meaning. Six months from now, "Deep State" will be yet another word for liebruls (who, by the way, are the real racists).
  6. According to the Huffington Post, Steve Bannon is also litteraly Hitler because he made a couple of references to “The Camp of Saints.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-camp-of-the-saints-immigration_us_58b75206e4b0284854b3dc03

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    • Replies: @guest
    Given what happened with the Refugee Crisis, any educated person who hasn't at least checked out Camp of the Saints and thought, "Hey, that's apt," is derelict in their intellectual duty.
    , @AndrewR
    For a supposedly Hitlerian figure, Bannon sure seems to love the Jews.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    I was goong to make a joke about trash and Hitler, but recently I wrote "dessert tent" instead of "desert tent" on iSteve, so I'll keep my trap shut...
    , @PV van der Byl
    Wow. Camp of the Saints was required reading for an introductory international relations course I took at the University of Pennsylvania in 1978. And the prof was a life long Democrat.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    It'd be nice to know if Mr. Bannon actually read that whole novel, Johnny. What you said makes me glad this guy is really aware. I read it, and it is a hell of a book. The translator guy did a great job too, as that couldn't have been easy (not like it was an action novel, it was a lot about the thoughts and moods of people).
  7. Joe Strummer, like Charles Murray, was a Noticer, which means he was Literally Hitler.

    He had to notice a lot during his life. Love him or hate him, he spent a lot of time in places that lose their romantic allure quickly, and seemed to be a more honest reporter than most of his contemporaries. And then there’s this, which had to have caused a lot of reflection on his part:

    “By 1970 his brother David had become estranged from his family and had joined the National Front. His suicide in July profoundly affected Strummer, as did having to identify his body after it had lain undiscovered for three days…” from Wikipedia

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    I love it. Let them keep it up.

    It’s just progs way of SAYING one thing and DOING another.

    I think the lebensraum strategy of gentritzkrieg is going very nicely in DC.
    If Hitler flew in big cities and saw the Europeanization, he would approve.

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    • Replies: @Glossy
    lebensraum strategy of gentritzkrieg

    Memorable.
    , @SFG
    Until he walked by the bagel store.
    , @Clyde
    lebensraum strategy of gentritzkrieg is going very nicely in DC. ---- lol and agree + score!
  9. “In the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.”

    …Except Trump. He is going to be Hitler for 8 years.

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  10. By invoking Godwin through his non-existing punk-creed, poor Matisyahu Twoferglesias is just trying – for the gazillionth time – to confuse his evil, privileged pre-school teachers:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6BM20jU8AE0AV5.jpg

    Matt doesn’t need trip to Jamaica.

    He can simply stay home, and get bit@hslapped & robbed again; if he still dares to walk that DC neighborhood after hours.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Hey, Matisyahu did nothing wrong. His reggae albums are clean and spiritual. Quit mixing him up with Yglesias.
  11. Charles Murray spat on Trump, the one man who stood up and stuck it back to the vile Left.

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    Charles Murray spat on Trump, the one man who stood up and stuck it back to the vile Left.
     
    Yep. Could you imagine any other guy having the balls of Trump to fucking take on the enemies of America and Western civilization and just keep swinging. It's been like 18 months of daily cage match fights with tag-team opponents. You can write all the worthless books on sociological problems (merely descriptive, not even prescriptive), but when a figure comes along and has the fortitude, natural ability, and experience to bring about radically beneficial change, you attack him daily. Trump is a threat to guys like Murray, because he reveals what insignificant little men they are who have no ability to change things for the better.
    , @Flip
    Yes. I was going to vote for the Libertarians like I always do, and kept seeing Trump push back, and said I couldn't not vote for the man if he was willing to put himself through that.
    , @Bugg
    Murray for all his academic bearing, doesn't grasp that to the Left, Us, he will always be Them along with Trump and anyone else that doesn't follow their orthodoxy. Peer-reviewed social science means nothing if it doesn't abide by the party line.

    The Cucks have still failed to grasp this, that they are but useful idiots for now. Tucker Carlson, to his eternal credit, pointed this out last October, that the NeverTrump types were playing with fire. The deep state is going to fight tooth and nail, so Trump has no alternative but to fight back. Had Hillary won, or should they win in the future, there will be no choice, nor even a binary choice. At some point the pretense of a Washington Generals opponent is pointless, just do the trick shots and confetti bullshit to keep the crowd entertained and don bother making believe there is a contest.
    , @NOTA
    You need to decide which question you care more about:

    a. Who's side are you on?

    b. Who is right about some question of fact or morality?

    It seems to me that Murray spends a lot of time thinking about question (b) and trying to get the best answers he can, even when they put him on the opposite side of important issues as his team. That's called intellectual integrity, and we need more of it in the world, not less.

    This is the same error the Yglesiases of the world are making--since Trump is on the "other side," all's fair in defeating him. It not only makes Yglesias look like an ass, it also helps justify a kind of World he'd never want to live in--one where who gets to speak is determined by who has he biggest gang of thugs behind him.
    , @Rod1963
    That about sums Murray not to mention his article where he supports Hillary and rejoices at a bunch of Brahman hindus replacing white Americans. What a nasty piece of work he is.

    Of course he's trying to walk it back now since Trump won. Won't work, we've seen the nasty little elitist that he really is. I really don't think he likes most whites especially the middle and lower class ones. I can just imagine how he'd take meeting the guy from "Dirty Jobs" Mike Rowe, he'd probably freak.
  12. White people in Jamaica aren’t suppose to venture off the beach hotel resorts.

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    • Replies: @Another Canadian
    I've been there several times. All-inclusive is the only way to roll in Jamaica. Anything else is just unnecessary risk-taking.
    , @PV van der Byl
    Very true, that.
    , @Mr. Blank
    Funniest thing about visiting Jamaica is watching the reaction of the locals when some white tourist asks them for the umpteentillionth time about Bob Marley. The sighs and eyerolls are epic.
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    Looks like some violence is going down in Berkeley today.

    Lizzie Johnson @lizziejohnsonnn 29m29 minutes ago

    In #Berkeley: 10 arrests (5 battery, 4 assault, 1 resisting arrest). Police confiscated bats, metal pipes, bricks & an illegal dagger.

    See her feed: https://twitter.com/lizziejohnsonnn

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    bats, metal pipes, bricks & an illegal dagger
     
    Ahem... "undocumented edginess"...
  14. Unlike the whiteness of Elvis Costello’s dad, Matty Y’s brand of whiteness is in fact pretty unbearable.

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  15. Charles Murray is Adolf Hitler alright, he believes Asian women are The Master Race when it comes to sexual activity in the bedroom.

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  16. Thanks for the screenshot, Steve. Everybody was retweeting it on Twitter, but the coward Yglesias deleted it, so I couldn’t see what it actually was…

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  17. You see, the way you throw out rights like free speech and so on is to characterize your enemy as pure evil. True, your target may not have actually done anything evil, but, keeping in mind the “continuum” theory of everything, if you commit a microagression you are practically shooting someone into a pit, basically, according to the theory (A, B, C, D ~Z). Therefore, anyone who offends your sensibilities is basically Hitler and can be destroyed. It’s pretty simple.

    Of course, Murray is not Hitler, not even close, but if his ideas took hold they would ultimately lead to Hitler, so, what’s the difference? That’s the logic in play here.

    But ten you could take the same logic and turn it around, arguing, in effect, that most people are in fact Hitler, and therefore all of them should be denied free speech and due process. Then it’s only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H. Enjoy it, Matt!

    This is basically no different than the pre-modern way of handling your enemies or neighbors you didn’t like: just say they are in league with the devil, and watch the show.

    It’s really disgraceful that our public discourse has fallen so low.

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    • Replies: @Unwanted Party Guest

    But ten you could take the same logic and turn it around, arguing, in effect, that most people are in fact Hitler, and therefore all of them should be denied free speech and due process. Then it’s only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H. Enjoy it, Matt!
     
    Indeed---I'm actually somewhat surprised that Yglesias, unlike e.g. Jon Chait, doesn't realize this.
    , @AndrewR
    Was it ever really higher or has the internet simply helped to illuminate what was always there??
    , @Mark Caplan
    If someone commits a microaggression, it's as though he murdered all of humanity.
    , @Jack D
    Then it’s only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H.

    The Revolution always eats its own. The Beast must be fed. Once the Beast has eaten all of the obvious enemies of the Revolution, the Beast turns its eye toward the weaker members of the home team. This is by design, in order to keep everyone enthusiastic about the Revolution. If you have run out of genuine enthusiasm, then fear of being consumed by the Beast is a good substitute. Matt Yglesias - remember not to stop clapping too soon.
    , @Olorin
    Claude Lanzmann (director of Shoah) and the guy who wrote Hitler's Willing Executioners basically argued that barbers, people walking down the street, and computer punch cards were All Hitler.

    I don't see it as "the pre-modern way of handling your enemies." I see it as a structured approach/method very tightly rooted in the stony steppe of the early 20th century propaganda industries (advertising, PR, Hollywood...). These were top-down, hidden source/concealed interest communications methods/technologies.

    This is why it's so important today to bypass these media, which are their message. "You are Hitler" simply means "I noticed you doing something I can get some measure of Chattering Class power by reviling." It also implies getting more power by constantly looking for new ante-ups.

    I'd say it's pretty modern...though its most practiced practitioners do indeed, as you say, bring to it a long history of this sort of justifying-persecution-with-fake-narrative/victimization.

    , @David
    In the 70's sometime, after the release of Sociobiology: The New Synthesis, EO Wilson was assaulted at a lecture to the chant of "Racist Wilson you can't hide, we charge you with genocide." Perfect example of the point you're making.
  18. Here’s a better Charles (Chic) Murray in full flow…

    Being white and Scottish I have a greater share of the profits from the genius of Clerk Maxwell and Murray than any ustadouninse….

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  19. Have you read the history of the Clash? The manager would chastize them for being dull natives, he liked Mick Jones because he was a Jew of central Euro heritage, he’d tell the rest of them to their face that immigrant vigor was necessary.

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    • Replies: @Daniel H
    >> he’d tell the rest of them to their face that immigrant vigor was necessary.

    Some vigor.

    http://www.magnetmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/mick-jones350c.jpg

  20. “central Euro heritage”

    Actually Russian Jewish, as was their manager, here’s the source:

    “When I got chucked out The Clash they couldn’t get it right anymore, and Bernard [Rhodes, Clash manager] would say “No, no do it like Mick!” When I’d left they were shouting at the new guys and Bernard would turn to Joe and say ” See, Immigrant Blood!” because Bernard had a similar back ground to me, and he believed it was all in the blood [laughs].

    http://sabotagetimes.com/music/mick-jones-speaks-joe-strummer-is-with-me-all-the-time

    also:

    “Well as far as The Clash and songs like “White Riot”, the thing behind it all that was Joe. In that case Joe was the prophet of that”

    Hmmm, maybe Strummer *was* a Noticer…

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Joe's dad was born in Lucknow, India, where Kipling's Kim went to school.
  21. Yglesias has a greater claim to being the Heir to Hitler than Murray in that it is Yglesias who is advocating for a powerful government bound only to follow whims of a Living Constitution whereas Murray is the libertarian who is arguing for less government intrusion in people’s lives.

    You can’t be a Hilter if you don’t have the means to inflict your Hilterian will on the people.

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    • Replies: @guest
    But libertarianism leads to unequal outcomes, which is racism/Nazim, ipso facto.

    Of course, the Jews would do okay. But we won't restrict ourselves to Nazism as Jew-hate/envy. At least if we're Yglesias and we're not Jewish.
    , @Frau Katze
    But we of the Resistance don't usually call people Hitler. It's something about the mindset.
  22. Steve, we’re grading on a curve here.

    When you compare the young people who took down Hitler with the young people of today, it’s only fitting that you’d need to downsize Hitler from a world-bestriding mass murderer to a polite, elderly professor from Iowa in order to make it a fair fight.

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  23. I’m really surprised that Yglesias speaks positively on Twitter of leftist censorship every now and then; it seems like exactly the kind of the kind of issue where his contrarian liberalism would be triggered.

    Also, I wonder if Yglesias is secretly and guiltily curious about the research on race differences in average intelligence (he once tweeted an RCA post on the subject), or if he genuinely believes that all we need to Close the Gap is exactly the right set of neoliberal reforms.

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    • Replies: @guest
    Trumpophobia trumps contrariness.
    , @bomag

    I wonder if Yglesias is secretly and guiltily curious about...
     
    Don't ascribe too much intellectual integrity to Yglesias and his ilk.
    , @NOTA
    This is the thing that screws us so badly about political correctness--we'd be way better off if guys like Yglesias were honestly looking st the data and thinking these questions through. Not only would the country be better off--hbd ideas would be better off with critical people taking a hard look at them and engaging instead of pointing-and-sputtering.

    But Yglesias simply cannot do that--to engage honestly and seriously with these ideas and facts would probably undermine his position in the world; concluding that he agreed with any substantial part of hbd ideas would certainly do so. Multiply that by a thousand, and you get one reason why so much of our public discussion on big important issues is so dumb. Independent thinking that leads you outside the acceptable range of belief ends your career--even too-close association with those ideas can wreck you.
  24. @SPMoore8
    You see, the way you throw out rights like free speech and so on is to characterize your enemy as pure evil. True, your target may not have actually done anything evil, but, keeping in mind the "continuum" theory of everything, if you commit a microagression you are practically shooting someone into a pit, basically, according to the theory (A, B, C, D ~Z). Therefore, anyone who offends your sensibilities is basically Hitler and can be destroyed. It's pretty simple.

    Of course, Murray is not Hitler, not even close, but if his ideas took hold they would ultimately lead to Hitler, so, what's the difference? That's the logic in play here.

    But ten you could take the same logic and turn it around, arguing, in effect, that most people are in fact Hitler, and therefore all of them should be denied free speech and due process. Then it's only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H. Enjoy it, Matt!

    This is basically no different than the pre-modern way of handling your enemies or neighbors you didn't like: just say they are in league with the devil, and watch the show.

    It's really disgraceful that our public discourse has fallen so low.

    But ten you could take the same logic and turn it around, arguing, in effect, that most people are in fact Hitler, and therefore all of them should be denied free speech and due process. Then it’s only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H. Enjoy it, Matt!

    Indeed—I’m actually somewhat surprised that Yglesias, unlike e.g. Jon Chait, doesn’t realize this.

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  25. Steve, don’t you forget about Strummer being responsible for Arab Springtime for Hitler, or something, by writting the evergreen that has been recently culturaly appropriated and jibberishly molested for a pee cee purpose:

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2007/mar/30/worldmusic

    Rock The Casbah

    Now the king told the boogie men
    You have to let that raga drop
    The oil down the desert way
    Has been shakin’ to the top
    The Sheik he drove his Cadillac
    He went a’ cruisin’ down the ville
    The muezzin was a’ standing
    On the radiator grille

    [Chorus:]
    The Shareef don’t like it
    Rock the Casbah
    Rock the Casbah
    The Shareef don’t like it
    Rock the Casbah
    Rock the Casbah

    By order of the prophet
    We ban that boogie sound
    Degenerate the faithful
    With that craazy Casbah sound
    But the Bedouin they brought out
    The electric camel drum
    The local guitar picker
    Got his guitar picking thumb
    As soon as the Shareef
    Had cleared the square
    They began to wail

    [Chorus:]

    Now over at the temple
    Oh! They really pack ‘em in
    The in crowd say it’s cool
    To dig this chanting thing
    But as the wind changed direction
    The temple band took five
    The crowd caught a wiff
    Of that crazy Casbah jive

    [Chorus:]

    The king called up his jet fighters
    He said you better earn your pay
    Drop your bombs between the minarets
    Down the Casbah way

    As soon as the Shareef was
    Chauffeured outta there
    The jet pilots tuned to
    The cockpit radio blare

    As soon as the Shareef was
    Outta their hair
    The jet pilots wailed

    [Chorus:]

    He thinks it’s not kosher
    Fundamentally he can’t take it.
    You know he really hates it.
    Really really hates it!

    Wikipedia:
    The song was chosen by Armed Forces Radio to be the first song broadcast on the service covering the area during Operation Desert Storm.

    Following the terrorist attacks on 11 September 2001, the song was placed on the list of post-9/11 inappropriate titles distributed by Clear Channel.

    In 2006, the conservative National Review released their list of the top 50 “Conservative Rock Songs”, with “Rock the Casbah” at No. 20, noting the Clear Channel list as well as frequent requests to the British Forces Broadcasting Service during the Iraq War.[

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    Wasn't that popular with Desert Storm troops in 1991?
    , @Anonymous
    That version of "Rock the Casbah" has a bit of a bit of a disco vibe and sounds somewhat like "Turn the Beat Around".

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=devNnEA0AdU ("Turn the Beat Around")

  26. Murray = Hitler

    Is this not 100% for sure, a sign that America’s liberal intellectual political scene is totally dishonest and broken?

    No arrests at the Murray beatdown.

    The whole thing about Trump collaborating with Russia is just crazy!

    The bomb threats to Jewish centers was done by a liberal fake media person.

    Domestic spying on leaders is rampant.

    If Trump does not kick ass and win – it is all over for America. It will be steady down down down.

    No country can survive the dishonesty that we have today.

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    Yes, the hard Left mindset of justifying violence to block crimethink is now the norm and is becoming the default stance of the Left in general (since the hard Left will intimidate their more squishy center-left allies into compliance). The left must be prevented from winning again until Trump's reforms are so profound that cultural Marxism cannot recover. This means a 10-20 culture war which our side wins decisively. Since the left is going to continue to try and weaponize mass 3rd world immigration as their brass knuckle contingency, it should be simple enough to bring woke normies along and rack up a string of victories. But it will be a long long battle.
  27. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I always thougth that the Clash were pretty well Troksykites in the beginning. Socialist
    Workers Party and all that.
    Strummer liked the Red Brigade t-shirts.

    http://68.media.tumblr.com/161c9e2e8751a0eb6babef3dbe3894b7/tumblr_o108eoj1xw1tsty6ao1_1280.jpg

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  28. The backlash is spreading. West Hunter (Cochran) posted on it and one of his commenters found this, a hatchet job on Razib Khan (an unlikely “white nationalist” but that doesn’t stop them.)

    Steve is referred to in most disparaging terms.

    https://undark.org/article/race-science-razib-khan-racism/

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    • Replies: @SFG
    You know, I'm thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as 'scientific racism'.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask 'do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?' The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.
    , @Anonymous
    It's interesting that the article mentions "America's Half Blood Prince". I'd bet that well <50% of posters here have read it. It is quite good. Very good, and probably still relevant. And I say this as someone who voted for Obama twice. (Live and learn.)
    , @Anonymous
    Towards the end of that article, there is a suggestion that "racists" are akin to "creationists". This literally the second time TODAY that I've seen this claim online, which I've never seen before. Is this some new trope, an attempt at inversion? Many of us badthinkers know what "liberal creationism" is. Are the leftists trying to emulate Trump's brilliant owning of the "fake news" trope?
    , @Expletive Deleted
    I have vague memories of the interweb's hyper-vigilant offence-finders-general getting quite excited about tarring Khan with antisemitism, maybe about 2006-'09? Nobody could quite work out what they were on about, so it all fell a bit flat.
    For some arcane reason, some of them insisted on calling him Rajiv. I do remember that.

    [ed.] tl;dr. The Eye never sleeps

  29. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I always thougth that the Clash were pretty well Troksykites in the beginning. Socialist
    Workers Party and all that.
    Strummer liked the Red Brigade t-shirts.

    http://68.media.tumblr.com/161c9e2e8751a0eb6babef3dbe3894b7/tumblr_o108eoj1xw1tsty6ao1_1280.jpg

    And their involvement in Rock against Racism with lots of connections to the SWP.

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  30. @bored identity
    Steve, don't you forget about Strummer being responsible for Arab Springtime for Hitler, or something, by writting the evergreen that has been recently culturaly appropriated and jibberishly molested for a pee cee purpose:
    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2007/mar/30/worldmusic

    https://youtu.be/n1p_dkJo6Y8



    Rock The Casbah

    Now the king told the boogie men
    You have to let that raga drop
    The oil down the desert way
    Has been shakin' to the top
    The Sheik he drove his Cadillac
    He went a' cruisin' down the ville
    The muezzin was a' standing
    On the radiator grille

    [Chorus:]
    The Shareef don't like it
    Rock the Casbah
    Rock the Casbah
    The Shareef don't like it
    Rock the Casbah
    Rock the Casbah

    By order of the prophet
    We ban that boogie sound
    Degenerate the faithful
    With that craazy Casbah sound
    But the Bedouin they brought out
    The electric camel drum
    The local guitar picker
    Got his guitar picking thumb
    As soon as the Shareef
    Had cleared the square
    They began to wail

    [Chorus:]

    Now over at the temple
    Oh! They really pack 'em in
    The in crowd say it's cool
    To dig this chanting thing
    But as the wind changed direction
    The temple band took five
    The crowd caught a wiff
    Of that crazy Casbah jive

    [Chorus:]

    The king called up his jet fighters
    He said you better earn your pay
    Drop your bombs between the minarets
    Down the Casbah way

    As soon as the Shareef was
    Chauffeured outta there
    The jet pilots tuned to
    The cockpit radio blare

    As soon as the Shareef was
    Outta their hair
    The jet pilots wailed

    [Chorus:]

    He thinks it's not kosher
    Fundamentally he can't take it.
    You know he really hates it.
    Really really hates it!


    Wikipedia:
    The song was chosen by Armed Forces Radio to be the first song broadcast on the service covering the area during Operation Desert Storm.

    Following the terrorist attacks on 11 September 2001, the song was placed on the list of post-9/11 inappropriate titles distributed by Clear Channel.

    In 2006, the conservative National Review released their list of the top 50 "Conservative Rock Songs", with "Rock the Casbah" at No. 20, noting the Clear Channel list as well as frequent requests to the British Forces Broadcasting Service during the Iraq War.[

    Wasn’t that popular with Desert Storm troops in 1991?

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    It seems that the Air Force joyfully had replaced a fictional Ride of the Valkyries with the right stuff. (Years later, we were told that Strummer wept when he learned "Rock the Casbah" was written on a bomb dropped during Operation Desert Storm.)

    Not so sure that would be the case with this shady guy Rachid cover...

    He claims that his mid 80's demo served as an inspiration to Topper Headon's improv session that progressed to recording and completion of the original Mustapha Dance...



    "When you come from the Third World, and you're a kid growing up there, your dream is to become a doctor or an engineer," says Rachid Taha, who was born and raised in Algeria.

    "The working class never dreams of having a musical career; the upper class dreams of that."

    He moved to Paris with his parents, who were strict Muslims, when he was 10.

    Taha's father worked in a factory -- a job Taha also took when he was young, though at night he spun music as a DJ in his own club.

    In those days, Taha and other Algerian immigrants living in Lyon were generally prohibited from the regular night spots -- a level of discrimination that made Taha angry and set up his identification with the punk music of the Clash and other groups

    He does not like contemporary French cinema and said "I'd much rather watch some dumb Hollywood movie than another haute bourgeois auteurist piece of crap."

    Taha was quoted as saying "I've never wanted to just stay in my own neighborhood, my own community ... It's a kind of conformism. You have to be adventurous."

    He has been a critic of the Bush administration although he has made comments favoring a bombing raid on Iran, and said that "Iran shouldn't be allowed to have nukes.

    Taha's parents have only seen him once in concert, which is deliberate: He doesn't like them attending his shows.
    "My parents seeing me onstage would be almost like they were seeing me make love to a woman," he says through an interpreter.

    "If Elvis Presley and Bob Dylan had their parents in the room, they'd (feel) the same way."

     

    As you can see or hear; Taha is just like Presley, or Dylan- just another Algerian punk.
    , @BB753
    Rock the Kashbah is probably their greatest hit song.
    , @bored identity
    These pesky, Hitlerian Charles Murrays will use all kind of the most ridiculous excuses to distance themselves from the Führer:



    "... In a rare moment of same-faith bonding, NME writer Charles Shaar Murray told me that his grandmother had to scrub pavements for the Nazis in Vienna, which he felt drew him to the blues and all sufferers' music, such as punk..."

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/27/never-mind-swastikas-secret-history-punky-jews

     

    , @bored identity
    I think that part of my yesterday's reply (that sadly enough never get posted ) to Sailer's rhetorical question on Desert Storm/ Rock the Casbah connection, quoted from Rachid Taha interview where this Algerian-French Punker compared his ultra-religious Muslim parents to Presley's mom and pop...

    Well, guess what?

    They finally found Elvis :

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4281700/Prosecutors-NY-man-aimed-fight-Islamic-extremists.html


    Stephen Miller should use this latest ghost-busting development as a vignette in Trump's next National TV speech appearance.
  31. “Kill all de White People” is getting so complicated.

    “How are you as an industry leader going to begin to engage from this day forward in a way that holds you and others accountable for their caucasity?”

    “Caucasity” is a sardonic term for whiteness.

    http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/article_71df225e-00ae-11e7-ab08-efc9ffda27b0.html

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    Best said in a Rhett Butler voice. "Why, ma'am, I believe I don't care for such sheer caucasity."
  32. @Nigel
    "central Euro heritage"

    Actually Russian Jewish, as was their manager, here's the source:

    “When I got chucked out The Clash they couldn't get it right anymore, and Bernard [Rhodes, Clash manager] would say "No, no do it like Mick!" When I'd left they were shouting at the new guys and Bernard would turn to Joe and say " See, Immigrant Blood!" because Bernard had a similar back ground to me, and he believed it was all in the blood [laughs].


    http://sabotagetimes.com/music/mick-jones-speaks-joe-strummer-is-with-me-all-the-time

    also:

    “Well as far as The Clash and songs like "White Riot", the thing behind it all that was Joe. In that case Joe was the prophet of that"

    Hmmm, maybe Strummer *was* a Noticer...

    Joe’s dad was born in Lucknow, India, where Kipling’s Kim went to school.

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    The Siege of Krishnapur by J.G. Farrell is a highly readable (and often funny) fictionalized account of the siege of Lucknow and its English population in 1857/58 by native Indian mutineers.
    , @patrick
    His dad was also 1/4 German Jewish and 1/4 Armenian* per Wikipedia.

    *By way of the Armenian merchant community in India that was absorbed by the British during the Raj, IIRC (just like Vivien Leigh).
  33. As I noted a couple of days ago, Walt Whitman in is “Salut au Monde!” turns out to be a much bigger noticer than anyone ever. For example:

    You, where you are!
    You daughter or son of England!
    You of the mighty Slavic tribes and empires! you
    Russ in Russia!
    You dim-descended, black, divine-souled African,
    large, fine-headed, nobly-formed, superbly des-
    tined, on equal terms with me!
    You Norwegian! Swede! Dane! Icelander! you
    Prussian!
    You Spaniard of Spain! you Portuguese!
    You Frenchwoman and Frenchman of France!
    You Belge! you liberty-lover of the Netherlands!
    You sturdy Austrian! you Lombard! Hun! Bohe-
    mian! farmer of Styria!

    Read the whole thing here:

    http://whitmanarchive.org/published/LG/1860/poems/51

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    farmer of Styria!

    Has been replaced with:

    farmer welfare recipient of Syria!
  34. @Anon
    I love it. Let them keep it up.

    It's just progs way of SAYING one thing and DOING another.

    I think the lebensraum strategy of gentritzkrieg is going very nicely in DC.
    If Hitler flew in big cities and saw the Europeanization, he would approve.

    lebensraum strategy of gentritzkrieg

    Memorable.

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  35. @bored identity
    By invoking Godwin through his non-existing punk-creed, poor Matisyahu Twoferglesias is just trying - for the gazillionth time - to confuse his evil, privileged pre-school teachers:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6BM20jU8AE0AV5.jpg


    Matt doesn't need trip to Jamaica.

    He can simply stay home, and get bit@hslapped & robbed again; if he still dares to walk that DC neighborhood after hours.

    Hey, Matisyahu did nothing wrong. His reggae albums are clean and spiritual. Quit mixing him up with Yglesias.

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  36. @Frau Katze
    The backlash is spreading. West Hunter (Cochran) posted on it and one of his commenters found this, a hatchet job on Razib Khan (an unlikely "white nationalist" but that doesn't stop them.)

    Steve is referred to in most disparaging terms.

    https://undark.org/article/race-science-razib-khan-racism/

    You know, I’m thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as ‘scientific racism’.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask ‘do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?’ The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.

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    But what are "alt-right" connections? The MSM is tossing it around as much as fascist, Nazi and Hitler.

    Khan was slammed for (among other things) writing at Unz, who are also "alt-right," according to that article.

    Alt-right is just a name to call people. They had a tweet with Khan saying he wasn't "alt-right." But they ignored that.

    We are evil and evil people lie.
    , @snorlax
    The very act of advancing HBD necessarily causes one to become alt-right connected. To begin with, Razib Khan and Charles Murray were very far from "alt-right" figures.

    Andrew Sullivan maybe counts but he's not an academic and he's at best mealy-mouthed on the subject.
    , @Jack Hanson
    "If we do this, surely they won't call us Nazis!"

    The only people more hard headed than SJW tru believers are commenters here who think that well reasoned blog posts with pithy statements are going to win the day.
    , @AnotherDad

    You know, I’m thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as ‘scientific racism’.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask ‘do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?’ The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.
     

    SFG, honestly, i don't see anything to this.

    As other commenters point out, once you're HBDing, you're "alt-right".

    As to convincing folks, the racial physical differences have always been obvious. There's never been any question there are genetic differences that have evolved, it's not like you need to wave sickle-cell or cystic fibrosis (or lactose tolerance) around to establish that. (If fact the behavioral differences are pretty obvious to most people as well, it's just they are less obviously genetic.)

    There isn't a any sort of serious scientific question here. AFAICT, the official left-Jewish-blank-slate position is "modern humans" came into being 100,000 years ago, with a particular mental toolkit and that's what we all have. (We're in one of Gould's punctuated equilibria--i don't know what would puncture it if not the neolithic then civilization ... but what the heck do it know!) Yeah, there's been time enough for selection to work for a few minor tweaks for real serious stuff like vitamin D, malaria resistance, even lactose tolerance. But basically we're all the same--essentially the same people as 100,000 years ago. It's stupid, but that's the party line. It's the party line, because it's a religious ideology.

    I'll suggest that if you want to make headway, talking with friends, acquaintances, i'd start by pointing out that selection is always working. Smart people have smarter kids. Dumb people have dumber kids. If smart people are having larger familes ... we're getting smarter. If dumb people are having larger families ... we're getting dumber. Then work back. The neolithic really was a revolution. Settlement, different food, living with animals, sanitation, disease. Lactose tolerance. Malaria\sickle cell. This all *speeded up* evolution* Throw in "10,000 Year Explosion". And then forward to civilization. "You're going to tell me that in a civilization with trade, money, writing there isn't selection--reproductive success for people with--different traits, than uncivilized more backward places?" More evolutionary speed up. You could toss in Chinese imperial exams. The Ashkenazi Jews.

    You might make some modest headway. I believe--could be deluded--that people are quite open to the smart\dumb genetics on the individual basis. And a fair slice have some concerns about dumb people having lots of kids. The Idiocracy issue. Get them to realize the reverse is how we got here.

    But you'll have lots of resistance to anything involving race. "We're all just humans". It's a religious ideology. And thinking heretical thoughts is not the path to social status, wealth, success.

    , @Olorin
    I've long thought that a way to get traction for HBD would be to start a meme that all funds should be pulled from any medical research on diseases that inflict only or mainly certain population pools, which is to say racial groups.

    Sickle cell research? Tay Sachs? MS? Malaria? AIDS? FDH (Finnish disease heritage diseases)?

    Kill off all this research and all related programs!

    They disproportionately affect members of particular races...and as such constitute racism and racist research!

    Imagine the Kek!

    http://www.nchpeg.org/nutrition/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=411
  37. @Anon
    I love it. Let them keep it up.

    It's just progs way of SAYING one thing and DOING another.

    I think the lebensraum strategy of gentritzkrieg is going very nicely in DC.
    If Hitler flew in big cities and saw the Europeanization, he would approve.

    Until he walked by the bagel store.

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  38. @Anonymous
    Looks like some violence is going down in Berkeley today.

    Lizzie Johnson @lizziejohnsonnn 29m29 minutes ago

    In #Berkeley: 10 arrests (5 battery, 4 assault, 1 resisting arrest). Police confiscated bats, metal pipes, bricks & an illegal dagger.
     

    See her feed: https://twitter.com/lizziejohnsonnn

    bats, metal pipes, bricks & an illegal dagger

    Ahem… “undocumented edginess”…

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    To be fair, Steve, matty didn’t notice the race of the gang that beat him up until you pestered him into remembering.

    You made him into the Hitler that he is today.

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    "To be fair, Steve, matty didn’t notice the race of the gang that beat him"

    In Washington DC there are only 2 demographics who will mug you, MS-13 and Blacks.
  40. @SFG
    You know, I'm thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as 'scientific racism'.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask 'do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?' The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.

    But what are “alt-right” connections? The MSM is tossing it around as much as fascist, Nazi and Hitler.

    Khan was slammed for (among other things) writing at Unz, who are also “alt-right,” according to that article.

    Alt-right is just a name to call people. They had a tweet with Khan saying he wasn’t “alt-right.” But they ignored that.

    We are evil and evil people lie.

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    "But what are “alt-right” connections? The MSM is tossing it around as much as fascist, Nazi and Hitler.

    Khan was slammed for (among other things) writing at Unz, who are also “alt-right,” according to that article.

    Alt-right is just a name to call people. They had a tweet with Khan saying he wasn’t “alt-right.” But they ignored that.

    We are evil and evil people lie."

    The Alt-Right does not even accept White skin Jews into their clubhouse, let alone Razib Khan who is basically a Black person with straight hair. That is basically what the average Indian is, a Mulignan with non nappy hair.
  41. Come on Matt’s a real smart cookie. He cannot come up with a virtually or literally before the word Hitler to jazz it up a bit? What would Hitler do if mugged in Washingtoon DC by inner city yoof, while out to buy some Ben & Jerry’s or Häagen-Dazs. Does Adolf carry a knife most of time ? A gun?

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    Adolf used to go around handing out daggers with his gang-sign on to all and sundry. 'Course he'd be tooled up, 24/7. Which incidentally proves that the rioters at Berkeley are nahtzees. Only a fascist would carry a dagger, and not a saintly, harmless, ethnic knife.
  42. I realize it’s a high bar, but Yglesias is probably the most intellectually dishonest man on the internet. See Udolpho’s classic “The Crassest Hobbit” which is now about 10 years old.

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    yes - maybe he got himself a huge mortgage after the mugging which he won't be able to keep paying without bending over for the oligarchs who pay his wages

    journalist = exceptionally well paid whore
    , @lavoisier
    Yglesias is the classic sophist. He masks his lies with virtue signalling and name calling, while simultaneously trying to convince you that he is brilliant.
  43. Matt Yglesias – white Cuban father, Ashkenazi mother.

    Charles Murray – first wife Thai, has Asian offspring.

    We need a black gay (male/female/xe) who likes Hitler to get involved.

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    MY is 3/4 Ashkenazi, with the remaining Catholic paternal line from Galacia in NW Spain, where his great grandfather was born. It is not clear if he has any "real" Cuban in him, it seems more likely that great grandpa married a fellow native of Spain, either in Spain where he later returned or else another one he met in Cuba.
  44. This is excellent. I want more of this. First, it shows that its best to be hung for a lion than a lamb. Cucks like Murray have cucked out for decades, playing nice with the elite, which is the left, think that Vermont Ski Bum coed with the hyphenated last name and the Alpha Widow attitude, only older.

    That game is now over, its the birth of the Fightin Whitey. No where left to run, might as well fight. No one respects any race that doesn’t fight, in collapsing small world where everyone else is a cell phone video away from everyone else, only fear and intimidation work. There’s no profit in being a cuck like Murray, you’ll get beaten anyway. And called Hitler. You might as well make it MEAN something. If you fight, and fight hard, and make yourself feared, you have a better chance of getting out alive than just meekly rolling over and showing your belly like a beaten dog.

    Second, groups like the Clash like most young men are attracted to conflict and meaning. Not just fighting for the heck of it but fighting *FOR* something. Fighting to … beat up elderly cuck White professors for saying uncool things is establishment, and fairly Black/Muslim. Its not very attractive to most young men growing up on Call of Duty, etc. Now that the Cold Civil War has turned very, very hot (and about to get a LOT hotter*) young White men have a choice — play third/fourth backup cowbell ringer to a Rap group, or be the lead guitarist in White Identity stuff. Guess which one offers stardom and chicks, and which offers … a thankless job as a low-paid roadie?

    *Trump just upped the ante with a threat of investigating not just Schumer and Pelosi, which is probably within his purview to order, but OBAMA who on Kalorama in the Furor Bunker (credit, Ace of Spades) has been orchestrating with Valerie Jarrett, who MOVED INTO HIS HOUSE I repeat the anti-Trump leaks and Special Prosecutors (the DOJ official overseeing the prosecution and removal of Sessions who is toast btw is an Obama loyalist appointed for that very reason). Now Obama faces come-back, his very own inside pitches when he’s at the plate. I would not rule out a dueling prosecution of Obama for illegal wiretapping Trump to match that of Sessions, Trump, and Pence by the DOJ officials, and Obama/Jarrett now calling for Trump’s removal by their loyalists still in the government.

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  45. @Cortes
    Here's a better Charles (Chic) Murray in full flow...

    https://youtu.be/8CFgaNSJe_w

    Being white and Scottish I have a greater share of the profits from the genius of Clerk Maxwell and Murray than any ustadouninse....

    The resemblance is actually pretty close.

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  46. @Art
    Murray = Hitler

    Is this not 100% for sure, a sign that America’s liberal intellectual political scene is totally dishonest and broken?

    No arrests at the Murray beatdown.

    The whole thing about Trump collaborating with Russia is just crazy!

    The bomb threats to Jewish centers was done by a liberal fake media person.

    Domestic spying on leaders is rampant.

    If Trump does not kick ass and win – it is all over for America. It will be steady down down down.

    No country can survive the dishonesty that we have today.

    Yes, the hard Left mindset of justifying violence to block crimethink is now the norm and is becoming the default stance of the Left in general (since the hard Left will intimidate their more squishy center-left allies into compliance). The left must be prevented from winning again until Trump’s reforms are so profound that cultural Marxism cannot recover. This means a 10-20 culture war which our side wins decisively. Since the left is going to continue to try and weaponize mass 3rd world immigration as their brass knuckle contingency, it should be simple enough to bring woke normies along and rack up a string of victories. But it will be a long long battle.

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    it should be simple enough to bring woke normies along and rack up a string of victories. But it will be a long long battle.
     
    It would be even simpler if we didn't have people like Charles Murray, George Will, John McCain and Lindsey Graham actively subverting our interests.
    , @anon
    Yeah, and Republicans must get the reforms fast. All they are talking about is repealing Obamacare and tax reform. They are delaying the most important immigration reform which is to cut legal immigration through merit instead of relatives. They could lose some ground in 2018 and cutting granny social security is always on the Republican agenda which means Republicans need to get all border security, expanding e-verify, cutting down on legal immigration before 2020 when they could lose to the Democrats.
  47. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    OT

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/world/europe/bondy-blog-mehdi-meklat-badrou-twitter.html

    Secret Life of Tweets Undoes Celebrated Voice of French Suburbs

    PARIS — He and his writing partner were the toast of the Left Bank, published and celebrated by the prestigious and chic. They were praised as authentic voices from France’s troubled suburbs, articulate and poetic chroniclers of the immigrant youth experience. …

    … All that is gone now. Mr. Meklat, 24, is now a media phenomenon of a different sort. He has been revealed as the semi-hidden author, under a pseudonym, of hateful and obscene tweets — anti-Semitic, misogynistic, pro-jihadist and homophobic. …

    Guess which of those four the focus is going to be on.

    Here are some of his non-anti-Semitic tweets the NYT won’t bother to quote, from a French article via Google Translate:

    Florilège of his tweets: July 8, 2011: “Regret that bin Laden died, he could have made everything fart.” # Ss5 #attentat “; October 24, 2012: “Come and break a violin in the ass of Mrs. Valls.” ; July 27, 2015: “Caroline Fourest she goes to the campground to touch the benches in the toilet !!!” ; December 30, 2012: ” I spit muzzles on the dirty face of Charb and all those of Charlie Hebdo.” ; 16 November 2014: “THE WHITE YOU MUST DIE ASAP.”

    NYT:

    … Overnight Mr. Meklat has gone from hero to pariah. A mini-culture war has erupted over the erstwhile star. It has led to uncomfortable reflections on the wide gulf that separates the immigrant suburbs from mainstream France, and on the naïveté of France’s progressive elite. So eager is it to connect with that world, that it is often blind to the dangerous anger and isolation of the banlieues. …

    … A largely flattering profile in Le Monde last fall mentioned the “Marcelin Deschamps” identity without highlighting it. The article’s author said much of Mr. Meklat’s Twitter stream had been suppressed, and Le Monde said its journalist received threats from Mr. Meklat’s circle merely for evoking his double identity. …

    … Mr. Meklat tweeted about the right-leaning philosopher and essayist Alain Finkielkraut, son of a Holocaust survivor, that “they should have broken his legs, that son of a whore.” Mr. Finkielkraut responded in Le Figaro that “Mehdi and Badrou were the turbulent chouchous” — pets — “of the hate-filled left.”

    But as unsettling as what Mr. Bouvet called in an interview the “complaisant attitude” of part of the media establishment is the content of Mr. Meklat’s tweets.

    “It reveals that in a certain milieu, in the suburbs, and in the Bondy Blog, there is a sort of regular anti-Semitism that is almost anodyne. It’s not necessarily aggressive, it’s almost on the level of a joke,” Mr. Bouvet said.

    “There is a kind of mockery of the Jews and Israel,” said Mr. Bouvet. “He went very far.”

    I think I’m getting an idea that this the only flashpoint it’s acceptable to talk about. Thanks, NYT.

    Despite that, Mr. Meklat had “benefited from a kind of impunity that, today, is a real problem,” the government’s anti-discrimination representative, Gilles Clavreul, said in an interview.

    “All the people in his professional entourage knew about his bad behavior,” he added. “They thought it wasn’t important. What’s really terrible is that Meklat reinforces the xenophobes’ stereotypes about the suburbs. It’s a gift to them.

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    "What’s really terrible is that Meklat reinforces the xenophobes’ stereotypes about the suburbs. It’s a gift to them."
     
    So the worst thing he can do is just be his lousy self thus confirming stereotypes of Muslims.

    They're right. He's proving that "populists" aren't just making stuff up out of thin air.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    He and his writing partner...
     
    Remember when "partner" was sufficient all by itself? Now you have to specify, partner in what.

    Otherwise folks might imagine Stradivarian enemas.
  48. Looking at Murray’s twitter.com account, one wonders what it takes to get him angry — what is the point of such milquetoast replies? — better to just ignore all the idiotic smears being directed at him — or start bashing Trump again — or repeating old tweets showing he isn’t a White Nationalist — ‘not that there’s anything wrong with that’.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Looking at Murray’s twitter.com account, one wonders what it takes to get him angry — what is the point of such milquetoast replies?
     
    That's why it's called the Silent Generation. They were children during the worst of the 20th Century. The allergic reaction is most acute in them.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    No, he's playing a blinder. Nothing gets these no-marks and cretins more apoplectic than mildly benevolent insouciance.
    He should take to wearing a (beige) cardigan, fill the pockets with Werther's Originals, and hand them out to particularly splenetic complainers with a Dalai Lama smile, and a pat on the head.
  49. This is what Dr. Murray wrote about Trump. I have not much sympathy for the likes of Murray.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435805/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-why-hillary-is-even-worse-doesnt-cut-it

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    • Replies: @Rob McX
    That's the difference between Murray and Hitler - Hitler had one testicle.
    , @Anonymous
    Speaking of sympathy:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/03/04/a-conservative-author-tried-to-speak-at-a-liberal-college-he-left-fleeing-an-angry-mob/


    Asked why he thinks he continues to arouse such passion 23 years after “The Bell Curve” was published, Murray said he could only speculate.

    “I think there is this rage on campuses about Donald Trump and — as someone who has written pretty explicitly about my disapproval of Trump — I can sympathize with that.”

    “But if you have someone that they can say, ‘This is one of those people who is the problem,’ then they latch on to that person,” he added. “That’s who I was to them.”
     

  50. OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/opinion/sunday/a-different-bargain-on-race.html

    (Not (((there))), silly. He works for the NYT.)

    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only.

    The right must respond that the only fair form of reparations will be based on the recipients percentage of American slave blood. So full bloods will get eight times more Reps than one eighth bloods. This will keep the reparations big mouths bickering forever.

    And if you are an American black whose only slave blood comes from a Jamaican or Haitian slave ancestor, you are shyte out of luck. This will add to the infighting/

    , @snorlax

    After all, what are white Americans supposed to make of a system that offers Hispanic or Asian business owners an advantage never enjoyed by their own Irish or Polish or Scots-Irish forefathers, or boosts upper-class African and Caribbean college applicants whose ancestors never lived in slavery?
     
    Hoo boy. Ross D might've just written himself out of a job with that boo boo.
    , @Broski
    That's a very big deal, that Douthat published that in the NYT. He's been here and there over the years, but that's a great article he wrote.

    $10k per seems a little low, and a lump sum would not be a great idea. $75k per full descendant of slavery seems right, paid out over 10 years at the Fed funds rate growth as an annuity. Leftover goes to descendants per will or state law. A sliding scale of $50k for 1/2+ black American founding stock, $35k for 1/4+, and $20k for 1/8+ sounds more reasonable. Maybe a third could be paid as an immediate lump sum and the rest as an annuity.

    That would also allow the government to absorb the payouts over 10 years.
    , @Alec Leamas
    I think we all know that if there ever was to be a reparations payment to blacks, a certain other tribe would have brand new shops right next door to the reparations office selling dental grills, rims, gold jewelry in the shape of the continent of Africa and/or a basketball, 5 button double breasted three-piece suits in every color of the rainbow, pimp canes, limited edition Beyonce coronation plates, etc. They'd be broke again in a fortnight, and the other tribe would be using its considerable power and influence to demand another round of reparations payments. They'd soon become an at least biannual event. The 30 for 30 episode about broke athletes comes to mind - I forget who it was who was released at the end of his NFL career with a check for $53K, and bought a $50K Hummer H2 on the way from the team offices.

    In an earlier time, perhaps a BBA analogue to the SBA would have been a reasonable compromise - an initial fund of cash for a black run Banks to invest in legitimate black owned and operated businesses at below market interest and fees with limited loan guarantees or something similar. But now Affirmative Action has morphed into Diversity which is deemed to be valuable in itself and of benefit to the majority population and as such won't be easily excised. In any event since there's an irrebuttable presumption that we're all equal in ability and effort, black failure is always the effect of white racism. So any compromise or settlement will inevitably fail, and the failure will be used as evidence that we have "more work to do" to eradicate white racism to free blacks to succeed. Once whetted, the black appetite for reparations will become insatiable and never ending.
    , @Desiderius

    Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?
     
    Hopefully.

    Can you think of someone better to set the national agenda? Who cares if they're kicking and screaming, as long as they're dragged in his direction.
    , @David In TN
    Typical neocon route to nothingness. He goes forward, steps back, goes sideways in one direction, then another, etc. etc.
    , @Ron Unz

    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There...He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?
     
    Well, I personally find this suggestion rather distasteful, but I suppose a case could be made for paying reparations to the current descendants of American slaves...

    On the other hand, based on similar reasoning, the reparations funds themselves should obviously be obtained from the current descendants of the American slave-owners. After all, it's silly to charge Asians, Hispanics, latter white immigrants, or pre-1865 Northerners for the misbehavior of Southern whites. And indeed only a fraction of Southern whites ever owned slaves.

    Ironically enough, I'd bet that the current American group with by far the largest fraction of white slave-owner ancestry would be...lighter-skinned American blacks!

    So, presumably, the correct way to implement this sensible proposal would be to confiscate pretty much the entire accumulated wealth of all the lighter-skinned American blacks and distribute it to the darker-skinned American blacks...

    From the hints I've seen here and there, such an approach would provoke an enormously enthusiastic reaction from the darker-skinned American blacks...
    , @AnotherDad

    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:
     
    It's not quite his bailiwick--no golf angle--but Steve should just post if all you guys really want to go to town on this.

    My two cents on all issues of "reparations":

    Currently living American blacks are not *victim* of slavery ... they are far and away its greatest beneficiaries.
     
    Furthermore, this is obvious. I--along with everyone else--wouldn't actually exist without all the history that unfolded before my conception. However, the alternative reality "AnotherDad" whose ancestors never immigrated to America lives ... ah ... more or less the same, just a bit less well than the American version. (GDP per capita of Ireland, England, Germany is a bit lower than the US.) In contrast, the alternative reality African-American, whose ancestors were never enslaved and brought to America lives a pretty miserable existence (by contemporary standards)--GDP per capita 1/20 (Nigeria with oil money) to 1/100 (Sierra Leone, Guinea, Togo, etc. without). Even PPP generously, black African living standards are an order of magnitude less than black American living standards.

    Basically African-Americans have--through no effort of their own--gotten this enormous benefit of living in a white developed, white run country which in quality of life and prosperity is literally an order of magnitude above anything blacks can create themselves. This white generated prosperity is something that people around the world struggle to get, but which they get for free due to the enslavement of their ancestors. They should appreciate what their ancestors' suffering has done for them, and realize how lucky they are.
  51. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @MG
    Charles Murray spat on Trump, the one man who stood up and stuck it back to the vile Left.

    Charles Murray spat on Trump, the one man who stood up and stuck it back to the vile Left.

    Yep. Could you imagine any other guy having the balls of Trump to fucking take on the enemies of America and Western civilization and just keep swinging. It’s been like 18 months of daily cage match fights with tag-team opponents. You can write all the worthless books on sociological problems (merely descriptive, not even prescriptive), but when a figure comes along and has the fortitude, natural ability, and experience to bring about radically beneficial change, you attack him daily. Trump is a threat to guys like Murray, because he reveals what insignificant little men they are who have no ability to change things for the better.

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    Trump is a threat to guys like Murray, because he reveals what insignificant little men they are who have no ability to change things for the better.
     
    No, the two types are complimentary, and will succeed or fall depending on the extent to which that is recognized, by both the principals and their various supporters.
  52. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Steve Sailer
    Wasn't that popular with Desert Storm troops in 1991?

    It seems that the Air Force joyfully had replaced a fictional Ride of the Valkyries with the right stuff. (Years later, we were told that Strummer wept when he learned “Rock the Casbah” was written on a bomb dropped during Operation Desert Storm.)

    Not so sure that would be the case with this shady guy Rachid cover…

    He claims that his mid 80′s demo served as an inspiration to Topper Headon’s improv session that progressed to recording and completion of the original Mustapha Dance…

    “When you come from the Third World, and you’re a kid growing up there, your dream is to become a doctor or an engineer,” says Rachid Taha, who was born and raised in Algeria.

    “The working class never dreams of having a musical career; the upper class dreams of that.”

    He moved to Paris with his parents, who were strict Muslims, when he was 10.

    Taha’s father worked in a factory — a job Taha also took when he was young, though at night he spun music as a DJ in his own club.

    In those days, Taha and other Algerian immigrants living in Lyon were generally prohibited from the regular night spots — a level of discrimination that made Taha angry and set up his identification with the punk music of the Clash and other groups

    He does not like contemporary French cinema and said “I’d much rather watch some dumb Hollywood movie than another haute bourgeois auteurist piece of crap.”

    Taha was quoted as saying “I’ve never wanted to just stay in my own neighborhood, my own community … It’s a kind of conformism. You have to be adventurous.”

    He has been a critic of the Bush administration although he has made comments favoring a bombing raid on Iran, and said that “Iran shouldn’t be allowed to have nukes.

    Taha’s parents have only seen him once in concert, which is deliberate: He doesn’t like them attending his shows.
    “My parents seeing me onstage would be almost like they were seeing me make love to a woman,” he says through an interpreter.

    “If Elvis Presley and Bob Dylan had their parents in the room, they’d (feel) the same way.”

    As you can see or hear; Taha is just like Presley, or Dylan- just another Algerian punk.

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  53. If you’re dog whistling with racist dog whistlers, doesn’t that make you a racist, even if you insist you were virtue-signaling, not dog whistling?

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  54. @Anon
    I love it. Let them keep it up.

    It's just progs way of SAYING one thing and DOING another.

    I think the lebensraum strategy of gentritzkrieg is going very nicely in DC.
    If Hitler flew in big cities and saw the Europeanization, he would approve.

    lebensraum strategy of gentritzkrieg is going very nicely in DC. —- lol and agree + score!

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  55. @Steve Sailer
    Joe's dad was born in Lucknow, India, where Kipling's Kim went to school.

    The Siege of Krishnapur by J.G. Farrell is a highly readable (and often funny) fictionalized account of the siege of Lucknow and its English population in 1857/58 by native Indian mutineers.

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    The Siege of Krishnapur by J.G. Farrell is a highly readable (and often funny) fictionalized account of the siege of Lucknow and its English population in 1857/58 by native Indian mutineers.
     
    Flashman in the Great Game, also fictional, also describes the siege of Lucknow, as well as the siege of Cawnpore. It's a great read.
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    Or you can read original accounts of the siege. There are at least seven on Gutenberg, four written by British women. Probably more if you look hard, as Lucknow might only be a chapter or two in a long service memoir.

    https://archive.org/details/aladysdiarysieg00harrgoog

    https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.51930

    https://archive.org/details/awidowsreminisc00bartgoog

    https://archive.org/details/apersonalnarrat01reesgoog
  56. @SFG
    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/opinion/sunday/a-different-bargain-on-race.html

    (Not (((there))), silly. He works for the NYT.)

    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only.

    The right must respond that the only fair form of reparations will be based on the recipients percentage of American slave blood. So full bloods will get eight times more Reps than one eighth bloods. This will keep the reparations big mouths bickering forever.

    And if you are an American black whose only slave blood comes from a Jamaican or Haitian slave ancestor, you are shyte out of luck. This will add to the infighting/

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    Do blacks with Massa's surname have to sue themselves? Or undergo gene therapy?
    , @Jefferson
    "The right must respond that the only fair form of reparations will be based on the recipients percentage of American slave blood. So full bloods will get eight times more Reps than one eighth bloods. This will keep the reparations big mouths bickering forever."

    Benjamin Jealous should get crumbs when it comes to reparations money because he is genetically 80 percent European, which is way way higher than the Black American average of only 20 percent European.
  57. @slumber_j
    As I noted a couple of days ago, Walt Whitman in is "Salut au Monde!" turns out to be a much bigger noticer than anyone ever. For example:

    You, where you are!
    You daughter or son of England!
    You of the mighty Slavic tribes and empires! you
    Russ in Russia!
    You dim-descended, black, divine-souled African,
    large, fine-headed, nobly-formed, superbly des-
    tined, on equal terms with me!
    You Norwegian! Swede! Dane! Icelander! you
    Prussian!
    You Spaniard of Spain! you Portuguese!
    You Frenchwoman and Frenchman of France!
    You Belge! you liberty-lover of the Netherlands!
    You sturdy Austrian! you Lombard! Hun! Bohe-
    mian! farmer of Styria!

     

    Read the whole thing here:

    http://whitmanarchive.org/published/LG/1860/poems/51

    farmer of Styria!

    Has been replaced with:

    farmer welfare recipient of Syria!

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  58. “What are you talking about? I was just quoting some Clash lyrics…”

    100% racist dog-whistling racist. Just look at him, stale, pale, male.

    if you commit a microagression you are practically shooting someone into a pit

    I don’t understand this one. Idiom?

    Of course, Murray is not Hitler, not even close, but if his ideas took hold they would ultimately lead to Hitler, so, what’s the difference? That’s the logic in play here.

    But ten you could take the same logic and turn it around, arguing, in effect, that most people are in fact Hitler, and therefore all of them should be denied free speech and due process. Then it’s only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H. Enjoy it, Matt!

    That’s not turning it around, that’s extending it. Turning it around would be saying that leftists are Stalin, because if just one of their ideas took hold, it would inevitably lead to genocide and mass incarceration.

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    he’s Literally Hitler too.

    Isn’t everybody?

    Well, Steve, your real fans will always know that you were Literally Hitler before it was cool.

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    @bored identity
    Steve, don't you forget about Strummer being responsible for Arab Springtime for Hitler, or something, by writting the evergreen that has been recently culturaly appropriated and jibberishly molested for a pee cee purpose:
    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2007/mar/30/worldmusic

    https://youtu.be/n1p_dkJo6Y8



    Rock The Casbah

    Now the king told the boogie men
    You have to let that raga drop
    The oil down the desert way
    Has been shakin' to the top
    The Sheik he drove his Cadillac
    He went a' cruisin' down the ville
    The muezzin was a' standing
    On the radiator grille

    [Chorus:]
    The Shareef don't like it
    Rock the Casbah
    Rock the Casbah
    The Shareef don't like it
    Rock the Casbah
    Rock the Casbah

    By order of the prophet
    We ban that boogie sound
    Degenerate the faithful
    With that craazy Casbah sound
    But the Bedouin they brought out
    The electric camel drum
    The local guitar picker
    Got his guitar picking thumb
    As soon as the Shareef
    Had cleared the square
    They began to wail

    [Chorus:]

    Now over at the temple
    Oh! They really pack 'em in
    The in crowd say it's cool
    To dig this chanting thing
    But as the wind changed direction
    The temple band took five
    The crowd caught a wiff
    Of that crazy Casbah jive

    [Chorus:]

    The king called up his jet fighters
    He said you better earn your pay
    Drop your bombs between the minarets
    Down the Casbah way

    As soon as the Shareef was
    Chauffeured outta there
    The jet pilots tuned to
    The cockpit radio blare

    As soon as the Shareef was
    Outta their hair
    The jet pilots wailed

    [Chorus:]

    He thinks it's not kosher
    Fundamentally he can't take it.
    You know he really hates it.
    Really really hates it!


    Wikipedia:
    The song was chosen by Armed Forces Radio to be the first song broadcast on the service covering the area during Operation Desert Storm.

    Following the terrorist attacks on 11 September 2001, the song was placed on the list of post-9/11 inappropriate titles distributed by Clear Channel.

    In 2006, the conservative National Review released their list of the top 50 "Conservative Rock Songs", with "Rock the Casbah" at No. 20, noting the Clear Channel list as well as frequent requests to the British Forces Broadcasting Service during the Iraq War.[

    That version of “Rock the Casbah” has a bit of a bit of a disco vibe and sounds somewhat like “Turn the Beat Around”.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=devNnEA0AdU (“Turn the Beat Around”)

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    Taha’s Orientalist disco stylings also sound like Boney M.’s “Rasputin.” Here’s an incredible extravaganza with beautiful ballerinas, crackhead pec twitches and vodka-sweat crowd.
  61. In case you missed it, BBC has a brand new programing that covers latest alternate controversy over Herr Murray and his sympathizers;

    “,,,An even greater shadow, however, is that of terrorism.

    Despite the efforts of our friends and allies in the Middle East, including the Greater Arab Republic’s veteran president, Saddam Hussein, Islamist extremism remains a genuine threat to the Fatherland and its neighbours.

    Only last week, Chancellor Petry told the Reichstag that enemy funding for Islamist terrorism had reached unprecedented levels.

    Of course, most of the money is coming from Washington DC, where the president of the world’s most infamous rogue state, Hillary Clinton, won power last November on a platform of ‘no compromise with National Socialism’.

    The U.S. has been an isolated pariah since conceding defeat in 1955, when the Germans dropped atomic bombs on St Louis and Philadelphia, but were too exhausted by war to mount a full-scale occupation…”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4273128/SS-GB-2017-Nazis-ruling-world-today.html

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    So the BBC is joining the German election campaign, just in case. After all, Frauke Petry opposes unlimited immigration to Germany, which makes her a worthy successor to Hitler.
  62. @Nigel
    Have you read the history of the Clash? The manager would chastize them for being dull natives, he liked Mick Jones because he was a Jew of central Euro heritage, he'd tell the rest of them to their face that immigrant vigor was necessary.

    >> he’d tell the rest of them to their face that immigrant vigor was necessary.

    Some vigor.

    http://www.magnetmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/mick-jones350c.jpg

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    Emily Post claims that only the immigrants of particular background are allowed to use the v- word.

    Rhodes to Mick Jones to Rachid Taha:
    "Wuz up, my vigor !?"

    Have some respect for a basic Etiquette.
  63. @SFG
    You know, I'm thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as 'scientific racism'.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask 'do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?' The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.

    The very act of advancing HBD necessarily causes one to become alt-right connected. To begin with, Razib Khan and Charles Murray were very far from “alt-right” figures.

    Andrew Sullivan maybe counts but he’s not an academic and he’s at best mealy-mouthed on the subject.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "To begin with, Razib Khan and Charles Murray were very far from “alt-right” figures.

    Andrew Sullivan maybe counts"

    Andrew Sullivan is a Homosexual who has an extreme hatred of Donald J. Trump. He is not Alt-Right at all, what the fuck are you smoking?
  64. @PiltdownMan
    The Siege of Krishnapur by J.G. Farrell is a highly readable (and often funny) fictionalized account of the siege of Lucknow and its English population in 1857/58 by native Indian mutineers.

    The Siege of Krishnapur by J.G. Farrell is a highly readable (and often funny) fictionalized account of the siege of Lucknow and its English population in 1857/58 by native Indian mutineers.

    Flashman in the Great Game, also fictional, also describes the siege of Lucknow, as well as the siege of Cawnpore. It’s a great read.

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    All of George McDonald Fraser's Flashman series are good. They made one into a movie starring Malcolm McDowell; don't know why there weren't more like the Sharpe's movies Sean Bean did.
  65. @SFG
    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/opinion/sunday/a-different-bargain-on-race.html

    (Not (((there))), silly. He works for the NYT.)

    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

    After all, what are white Americans supposed to make of a system that offers Hispanic or Asian business owners an advantage never enjoyed by their own Irish or Polish or Scots-Irish forefathers, or boosts upper-class African and Caribbean college applicants whose ancestors never lived in slavery?

    Hoo boy. Ross D might’ve just written himself out of a job with that boo boo.

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  66. @Anon
    https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/838148529554096128

    Deep State, a growing meme

    Sometimes, when controversy arises (like the Trayvon Martin thing) and you’re afraid that fake news is going to be the first draft of fake history, it’s worth visiting the Last Refuge / Conservative Treehouse for a well-organized assessment of the facts.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/03/the-shadow-government-timeline/

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/04/towergate-begins-yes-if-trump-is-correct-even-partially-then-president-obama-might-be-in-big-trouble/#more-129509

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    • Agree: David In TN
    • Replies: @res
    Interesting that their interpretation provides a rationale for the Trump/Russia furor as a justification of the surveillance. I wonder how this will play out. It has become incredibly easy to understand why there was so much panic when Trump won.
  67. I wanted to see the context of that tweet before commenting on it, because it makes no sense to me. Obviously, the upshot is everyone not on my side is Hitler. But I mean strict, word-by-word sense. What’s with the “anyway,” for instance? But I can’t find it.

    Constantly surprises me what literary incompetence one finds among people who make a living at writing. Academics are one thing, because they’ve built sinecures and no one expects anything from them, except to have fellow academics publish their unread books and articles. But aren’t actual human beings supposed to read Yglesias’ drivel? What do they do instead? Roll their eyes back and have fits after clicking, blackout, and forget all about it until the next click?

    Or does he make a living at something else? Like how the Kardashians are professional Kardashians?

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    What’s with the “anyway,” for instance?

    It rhymes with "today"

    , @Almost Missouri

    "Constantly surprises me what literary incompetence one finds among people who make a living at writing."
     
    Yeah, it's pretty strange, huh? It might have something to do with the fact that the Left's writing is largely substance-free, it's just name-calling and demands that opponents be censored or lose their jobs. Since anyone can do simple tasks like that, the only competition is on who can do it more or in more novel circumstances.

    And there's a little competition to be a novel source. For example, even though Matty Yglesias is just another Jewish guy with an opinion (ho-hum), he has a fashionably Hispanic surname, so he can graduate directly from Harvard (which itself had probably admitted him on the basis of his vowel-rich moniker) into the pages of The Atlantic as their resident child-blogger telling the rubes how to think. Pretty much everything he says is reliably wrong as well as atrociously written, but no matter, the show must go on, preferably with a "diverse" cast. Now, in spite of never having done a real day's work in his life, Yglesias lives in a $1.2 million house. Not too shabby for a guy who can't think his way out of a paper bag.

    tl;dr: The deck is stacked.

  68. @JohnnyD
    According to the Huffington Post, Steve Bannon is also litteraly Hitler because he made a couple of references to "The Camp of Saints."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-camp-of-the-saints-immigration_us_58b75206e4b0284854b3dc03

    Given what happened with the Refugee Crisis, any educated person who hasn’t at least checked out Camp of the Saints and thought, “Hey, that’s apt,” is derelict in their intellectual duty.

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    @guest,
    Ironically, it's the "educated" people in Europe who believe that there's nothing wrong with bringing in all of these refugees.
  69. @TangoMan
    Yglesias has a greater claim to being the Heir to Hitler than Murray in that it is Yglesias who is advocating for a powerful government bound only to follow whims of a Living Constitution whereas Murray is the libertarian who is arguing for less government intrusion in people's lives.

    You can't be a Hilter if you don't have the means to inflict your Hilterian will on the people.

    But libertarianism leads to unequal outcomes, which is racism/Nazim, ipso facto.

    Of course, the Jews would do okay. But we won’t restrict ourselves to Nazism as Jew-hate/envy. At least if we’re Yglesias and we’re not Jewish.

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    • Replies: @JustTheFacts
    In fact, Yglesias is 3/4 jewish:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Yglesias
  70. @guest
    I wanted to see the context of that tweet before commenting on it, because it makes no sense to me. Obviously, the upshot is everyone not on my side is Hitler. But I mean strict, word-by-word sense. What's with the "anyway," for instance? But I can't find it.

    Constantly surprises me what literary incompetence one finds among people who make a living at writing. Academics are one thing, because they've built sinecures and no one expects anything from them, except to have fellow academics publish their unread books and articles. But aren't actual human beings supposed to read Yglesias' drivel? What do they do instead? Roll their eyes back and have fits after clicking, blackout, and forget all about it until the next click?

    Or does he make a living at something else? Like how the Kardashians are professional Kardashians?

    What’s with the “anyway,” for instance?

    It rhymes with “today”

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  71. @Unwanted Party Guest
    I'm really surprised that Yglesias speaks positively on Twitter of leftist censorship every now and then; it seems like exactly the kind of the kind of issue where his contrarian liberalism would be triggered.

    Also, I wonder if Yglesias is secretly and guiltily curious about the research on race differences in average intelligence (he once tweeted an RCA post on the subject), or if he genuinely believes that all we need to Close the Gap is exactly the right set of neoliberal reforms.

    Trumpophobia trumps contrariness.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    It's not phobia when you really are in danger. Not of his life, but certainly his livelihood and status are in grave danger should Trump succeed.
  72. @Steve Sailer
    What’s with the “anyway,” for instance?

    It rhymes with "today"

    Oh, I see. He should work on his scansion.

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  73. OT: The Washington Post has found economists who believe that an influx of Mexicans lowers blue collar wages.

    Good thing for all of us is that this phenomenon only occurs in Mexico:

    More returnees means lower wages for everybody in blue-collar industries such as construction and automobile manufacturing, where competition for jobs is likely to increase, economists say.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexico-prepares-to-absorb-a-wave-of-deportees-in-the-trump-era/2017/03/03/a7bd624a-f86c-11e6-aa1e-5f735ee31334_story.html

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    The corollary to the WaPo article will be a request for billions in foreign aid to help aggrieved Mexicans adjust to the economic rigors of the 'migration'. Mexico argues for No deposit, No return.
  74. OT:

    The hunt for the great bright illegal continues…

    So for Trump’s speech to congress last week, various congress-critters brought with them DACA recipients. Here’s a sample of how underwhelming some of these sob stories are:

    The guest of Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), a student at Edgewood College named Lupe Salmeron, immigrated to Wisconsin from Mexico in 2005 and is also hoping to become an immigration lawyer.

    Another one was a Mexican Ph.D recipient from U.C. Merced. There was also a Pakistani getting an M.D. from Loyola University in Chicago. There are 800,000 of these people, and this is the best the treason lobby can do?

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  75. @attilathehen
    Matt Yglesias - white Cuban father, Ashkenazi mother.

    Charles Murray - first wife Thai, has Asian offspring.

    We need a black gay (male/female/xe) who likes Hitler to get involved.

    MY is 3/4 Ashkenazi, with the remaining Catholic paternal line from Galacia in NW Spain, where his great grandfather was born. It is not clear if he has any “real” Cuban in him, it seems more likely that great grandpa married a fellow native of Spain, either in Spain where he later returned or else another one he met in Cuba.

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    MY is 3/4 Ashkenazi, with the remaining Catholic paternal line from Galacia in NW Spain, where his great grandfather was born. It is not clear if he has any “real” Cuban in him, it seems more likely that great grandpa married a fellow native of Spain, either in Spain where he later returned or else another one he met in Cuba
     
    "Real Cuban " ?
    Do you mean Arawak Indian , the inhabitants that were there when the Spanish arrived ?? They were all killed . Modern day Cubans are either descendants of Spaniards or descended of black slaves or mulattos . MY is a twit but he is as " real " a Cuban as the rest of the inhabitants of the island .
  76. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Clyde
    lebensraum strategy of gentritzkrieg is going very nicely in DC. ---- lol and agree + score!

    Gentrifiers are glitzy. It’s Glitzkrieg.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Glitzkrieg is a pretty good name for the first, gay male wave of gentrifiers.
  77. @Anon
    Gentrifiers are glitzy. It's Glitzkrieg.

    Glitzkrieg is a pretty good name for the first, gay male wave of gentrifiers.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Glitzkrieg is a pretty good name for the first, gay male wave of gentrifiers."

    LOL - great imagery!
    , @NOTA
    Make the ghetto fabulous again!
    , @Mr. Anon
    Or if they are wealthy, Ritzkrieg.
    , @Clyde
    Priss anon or random anon.... some good word inventions.
  78. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Steve Sailer
    Glitzkrieg is a pretty good name for the first, gay male wave of gentrifiers.

    “Glitzkrieg is a pretty good name for the first, gay male wave of gentrifiers.”

    LOL – great imagery!

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  79. @JohnnyD
    According to the Huffington Post, Steve Bannon is also litteraly Hitler because he made a couple of references to "The Camp of Saints."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-camp-of-the-saints-immigration_us_58b75206e4b0284854b3dc03

    For a supposedly Hitlerian figure, Bannon sure seems to love the Jews.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "For a supposedly Hitlerian figure, Bannon sure seems to love the Jews."

    Steve Bannon became a multi-millionaire off Seinfeld, so can you blame him.
    , @JohnnyD
    @AndrewR,
    I wouldn't say that Bannon loves the Jews. I think he admires Israel, but despises Jewish liberals.
  80. @SFG
    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/opinion/sunday/a-different-bargain-on-race.html

    (Not (((there))), silly. He works for the NYT.)

    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

    That’s a very big deal, that Douthat published that in the NYT. He’s been here and there over the years, but that’s a great article he wrote.

    $10k per seems a little low, and a lump sum would not be a great idea. $75k per full descendant of slavery seems right, paid out over 10 years at the Fed funds rate growth as an annuity. Leftover goes to descendants per will or state law. A sliding scale of $50k for 1/2+ black American founding stock, $35k for 1/4+, and $20k for 1/8+ sounds more reasonable. Maybe a third could be paid as an immediate lump sum and the rest as an annuity.

    That would also allow the government to absorb the payouts over 10 years.

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    $10k per seems a little low, and a lump sum would not be a great idea. $75k per full descendant of slavery seems right, paid out over 10 years at the Fed funds rate growth as an annuity. Leftover goes to descendants per will or state law. A sliding scale of $50k for 1/2+ black American founding stock, $35k for 1/4+, and $20k for 1/8+ sounds more reasonable. Maybe a third could be paid as an immediate lump sum and the rest as an annuity.
     
    With full bloods getting paid first while octaroons ride the back of the Reps bus. They were lucky to get any payout at all since most can pass for Italian. Just look at the way Beyonce flounces around with her blonde hair. btw my spellcheck omits octaroon.

    and if the best you can do is dig up ancestors who had British slave masters in the Caribbean, tough! Not our problem! Eric Holder and his ilk get nothing.

  81. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Frau Katze
    The backlash is spreading. West Hunter (Cochran) posted on it and one of his commenters found this, a hatchet job on Razib Khan (an unlikely "white nationalist" but that doesn't stop them.)

    Steve is referred to in most disparaging terms.

    https://undark.org/article/race-science-razib-khan-racism/

    It’s interesting that the article mentions “America’s Half Blood Prince”. I’d bet that well <50% of posters here have read it. It is quite good. Very good, and probably still relevant. And I say this as someone who voted for Obama twice. (Live and learn.)

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  82. @Anonymous
    That version of "Rock the Casbah" has a bit of a bit of a disco vibe and sounds somewhat like "Turn the Beat Around".

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=devNnEA0AdU ("Turn the Beat Around")

    Taha’s Orientalist disco stylings also sound like Boney M.’s “Rasputin.” Here’s an incredible extravaganza with beautiful ballerinas, crackhead pec twitches and vodka-sweat crowd.

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  83. That White Riot show looks like a hell of a scene. Do you know what occasion that was Steve? Clash seemed to be killing it there.

    Also, I get the impression everything is hate speech these days. Why not just require a liscence for speakers? Where’s the ACLU when you need them?

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  84. @Pat Casey
    Ezra Pound's complicated discontent with the English was distilled toward the end of his life by the remark that "they don't call things by their proper name." Pound was noticing an insidious scourge that George Orwell elaborated to a logical extreme; but more precisely he was locating the central style of English snobbery in the habit of damning with faint praise. That's a mode a irony, and the best way to keep things civil is probably to be subtle. But when Ezra Pound and Wyndham Lewis were living in pre-war London, the business of the day was to blow things up-- hence that stillborn mag called Blast.

    No one remembers how precisely terrified Bloomsbury was of Wyndham Lewis in those days, but everyone remembers that Virginia Woolf said human character changed on or about December 1910. Which was an eminently English way of acknowledging an inglorious reality by prevaricating. By December 1910, Ezra Pound was in touch with Yeats and impressing London patrons like a literati peacock looking to be enthroned. The English language had come into the care of the Irish, and this upstart from Idaho was staking his own claim to the heritage by making that point blunt.

    That prevarication is a kind of comprise must be the conceit of those who think they are living in an age that's more objective than subjective. When plain facts stand to reason that your time is running out, prevaricating is really just a way to buy time. The English Parliament passed the Home Rule Act of 1914 so that Irishmen on the Western Front could take heart that they were fighting for their country's freedom. That though was an especially perfidious comprise, due to the stipulation regarding the to-be-determined status of Northern Ireland, and that incited an armed mentality among Ulster Unionists, which could only be met by the tri-color that proclaimed a Republic.

    One week, but just one week after Sinn Fein proclaimed they stood behind De Valera for a Republic, the Balfour Declaration was issued to the second Baron Rothschild for transmission to The Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. Funny how the English call things by their proper name when addressing the wrong people. Nothing matters very much and few things matter at all--- we really don't know why that declaration needed to be done. It's enticing to guess it was done on the fly, out of spite, when the English saw all that delirium of the brave called the Rising was not ephemeral, and desired to damn Ireland with faint praise by a sovereign recognition---for its efforts toward Zionism.

    One reason to suspect that shabby motive was behind the Balfour Declaration is that about three months prior was when Sinn Fein showed up in droves like never before to make a demand; they wanted the bodies of the men who had been executed over a year since then returned so that they could be put to rest. Holding the graves of our Fenian dead was long a profound thing to the Irish, and once became that hallowed ground called Glasnevin. Which is to say, the English knew what they were doing and it wasn't beneath them one bit. "Irish sentimentality will turn these graves into martyrs' shrines to which annual processions will be made, which would cause constant irritation in this country."

    There is a shrine in Stratford upon Avon for a guy who was never in the habit of spelling his name, did not own any books, and was thoughtful about his second best bed. Patrick Pearse was a poet, and so was Thomas MacDonagh---"He might have one fame in the end." Sorry to say but stupid Anglo-Saxons and their vanglorious cousins in this country don't have a clue about poets like that. Anyways, One day, William Butler Yeats will be to Ireland what Shakespeare is to England; but that may rather happen when we will be saying what Shakespeare was to England--when this myth of a plebeian who could uncannily becomes kings is over and done and dispelled. When that spell is broken, well I do believe the Irish will be all the more proud to say our Willie Yeats knew some prize magic.

    That's why they don't say that just yet, and why the many Irish poets who have come since him make a point of keep their distance from him, and especially his symbols, for example The Fool (I have old photos that show motley was the only wear in Irish Ireland). Deliberately evading his influence is the understood matter of course for Irish poets because of Yeats astounding book on magic called A Vision. It still embarrasses, which means, according to its own terms, that the age overall is still quite too objective to accept mummy truths.

    A 2016 analysis by Factiva showed that lines from the poem have been quoted more often in the first seven months of 2016 than in any of the preceding 30 years[5] in the context of political turmoil after Brexit referendum and President Donald Trump election with commentators repeatedly invoking its lines: “Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.
     
    More and more I think little statistics like that matter as much as any sign of the times. That we see that sign become itself exactly one hundred years after Easter 1916 only makes me the more certain. That poem, Easter 1916, is undeniably the heart and soul of Yeats body of work, especially if everyone cares to give that importance to The Second Coming. That poem is haunting indeed, mysterious beyond mystifying. But one thing to consider--- which you won't hear anywhere else--- is that declaration from Balfour and it's timing. Also consider the sphinx, as you brush up on what tormented St. Patrick when he proved himself. Then familiarize yourself with the Giant's Causeway and the blessings of God be on you. Finally there are the Sheela- na- gigs: "Hearts with one purpose alone through summer and winter seem enchanted to a stone to trouble the living stream."

    Keep in mind if you can help it that magic is not prophecy: Yeats did not know that that Easter was the 300th anniversary of Shakespeare's death til after sentimentalism had moved him. But there is an outstanding prophecy legend ascribes to an Irishman that has captured certain minds with absolute immediacy, and the name to know is Saint Malachy. Captured those minds probably because of that other prophecy, from the little girl at Fatima, and what about 1960 made its meaning "more clear."

    Ireland will remain Ireland as long as she is Irish and the English-speaking world's uneasy conscience. Joe Sobran said that to me. The only reason I wrote is because the most oddly influential place in the history of Western Civilization is Ireland without a doubt. Despite Thomas Cahill's admirable effort, I don't see that that story has every fully been told. Mysterious wisdom won by toil: I often wonder about that Greek captain who called Ireland the Sacred Isle in 525 BC. What did he know that we don't?

    Obviously that should have gone to the previous post. And I meant to say, you have to respect people who want to make stealing land back the letter of the law, instead of it’s spirit.

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  85. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Frau Katze
    The backlash is spreading. West Hunter (Cochran) posted on it and one of his commenters found this, a hatchet job on Razib Khan (an unlikely "white nationalist" but that doesn't stop them.)

    Steve is referred to in most disparaging terms.

    https://undark.org/article/race-science-razib-khan-racism/

    Towards the end of that article, there is a suggestion that “racists” are akin to “creationists”. This literally the second time TODAY that I’ve seen this claim online, which I’ve never seen before. Is this some new trope, an attempt at inversion? Many of us badthinkers know what “liberal creationism” is. Are the leftists trying to emulate Trump’s brilliant owning of the “fake news” trope?

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    I assume they're unaware of the race creationism meme, or they don't care. Unlike "fake news," creationism as an insult is a longstanding meme that can't be robbed from the cradle. Lefties have a stable of anti-rightist insults, and they're constantly scrolling through the options. This just so happens to be what they've stopped on, is all.

    One is to call the enemy racists/Nazis. That's not very useful for this subject, because it's already about racism. They're looking to throw anti-science onto the pile. They favor two ways to disassociate their opposition from science: denialism, like with "climate change," and creationism, which only stupid Christians believe in.

    They went with the latter, and it's probably the stronger case because denial is too closely associated with holocaust denial, and I assume the idea of global warming denial already derives from holocaust denial. Once again, the Nazi label isn't useful because we're already taking racism for granted.

    , @AndrewR
    It's 100% projection.

    Blank slate ideology is pure creationism.

    The idea that nature has selected for the exact same cognitive and emotional traits in all populations since the MRCA of all humans lived is insane.
  86. O/T I think Steve pretty much brought to America’s attention the idea of a Deep State with some Turkey posts a few years ago. Here is Charles Krauthammer humorously addressing the phrase in primetime on Fox News:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/445499/trump-deep-state-battle-fighting-bureaucrats-bitter-democrats-lost

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    That may be a trial balloon from the deep state offering a truce to Trump for purposes of purging the Obama holdovers in exchange for preserving deep state perks/prerogatives/the empire.
  87. @ATX Hipster
    Notice Yglesias being disingenuous about the point he's trying to make in the replies to his original tweet.

    "What are you talking about? I was just quoting some Clash lyrics..."

    Notice Yglesias being disingenuous about the point he’s trying to make in the replies to his original tweet.

    And now the original tweet is gone.

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  88. Oy vey, Yglesias!

    I’m a Hitler
    She’s a Hitler
    We’re a Hitler
    He’s a Hitler
    Wouldn’t you like to be a Hitler too?

    Be a Hitler
    Drink Dr. Pepe

    Here’s the one we’ve been singing in Les Moments Musicaux Chez Olorin (the long running musical comedy of daily life hereabouts; definitely needs a punchier title):

    Call me quite deplorable
    Tell me I’m fashtastical
    Throw in Hitlerishious too.

    Do my stats analyses bore you?
    Well, I’m quite autistic so
    I can’t–hey, an unusually melanistic squirrel!

    Call me Trumpalicious and
    Tell me I’m so vicious.
    Yeah I’m a right-dissident too

    You’re jealous of a right-tail IQ.

    That last line–mine was better…which is to say darker/danker. But I got outvoted by the distaff side.

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  89. @AndrewR
    For a supposedly Hitlerian figure, Bannon sure seems to love the Jews.

    “For a supposedly Hitlerian figure, Bannon sure seems to love the Jews.”

    Steve Bannon became a multi-millionaire off Seinfeld, so can you blame him.

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  90. @anon
    To be fair, Steve, matty didn't notice the race of the gang that beat him up until you pestered him into remembering.

    You made him into the Hitler that he is today.

    “To be fair, Steve, matty didn’t notice the race of the gang that beat him”

    In Washington DC there are only 2 demographics who will mug you, MS-13 and Blacks.

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  91. @snorlax
    The very act of advancing HBD necessarily causes one to become alt-right connected. To begin with, Razib Khan and Charles Murray were very far from "alt-right" figures.

    Andrew Sullivan maybe counts but he's not an academic and he's at best mealy-mouthed on the subject.

    “To begin with, Razib Khan and Charles Murray were very far from “alt-right” figures.

    Andrew Sullivan maybe counts”

    Andrew Sullivan is a Homosexual who has an extreme hatred of Donald J. Trump. He is not Alt-Right at all, what the fuck are you smoking?

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  92. @guest
    But libertarianism leads to unequal outcomes, which is racism/Nazim, ipso facto.

    Of course, the Jews would do okay. But we won't restrict ourselves to Nazism as Jew-hate/envy. At least if we're Yglesias and we're not Jewish.

    In fact, Yglesias is 3/4 jewish:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Yglesias

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  93. @Frau Katze
    But what are "alt-right" connections? The MSM is tossing it around as much as fascist, Nazi and Hitler.

    Khan was slammed for (among other things) writing at Unz, who are also "alt-right," according to that article.

    Alt-right is just a name to call people. They had a tweet with Khan saying he wasn't "alt-right." But they ignored that.

    We are evil and evil people lie.

    “But what are “alt-right” connections? The MSM is tossing it around as much as fascist, Nazi and Hitler.

    Khan was slammed for (among other things) writing at Unz, who are also “alt-right,” according to that article.

    Alt-right is just a name to call people. They had a tweet with Khan saying he wasn’t “alt-right.” But they ignored that.

    We are evil and evil people lie.”

    The Alt-Right does not even accept White skin Jews into their clubhouse, let alone Razib Khan who is basically a Black person with straight hair. That is basically what the average Indian is, a Mulignan with non nappy hair.

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    That was my understanding of alt-right: White nationalists, no Jews need apply. Even Eastern European ancestry is a bit dicey.

    But somehow Razib Khan had to specifically tweet that he was NOT alt-right.

    So it's reached the grade school level of name calling.
  94. @SPMoore8
    You see, the way you throw out rights like free speech and so on is to characterize your enemy as pure evil. True, your target may not have actually done anything evil, but, keeping in mind the "continuum" theory of everything, if you commit a microagression you are practically shooting someone into a pit, basically, according to the theory (A, B, C, D ~Z). Therefore, anyone who offends your sensibilities is basically Hitler and can be destroyed. It's pretty simple.

    Of course, Murray is not Hitler, not even close, but if his ideas took hold they would ultimately lead to Hitler, so, what's the difference? That's the logic in play here.

    But ten you could take the same logic and turn it around, arguing, in effect, that most people are in fact Hitler, and therefore all of them should be denied free speech and due process. Then it's only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H. Enjoy it, Matt!

    This is basically no different than the pre-modern way of handling your enemies or neighbors you didn't like: just say they are in league with the devil, and watch the show.

    It's really disgraceful that our public discourse has fallen so low.

    Was it ever really higher or has the internet simply helped to illuminate what was always there??

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    No, th Internet exacerbates this to an incredible degree.

    Ten years prior to the WWW becoming a ubiquitous feature of everyday life, the neurotic losers who comprise the front ranks of the SJWs - the Pareenes and Lindy Wests and Jesse Benns - were nonentities, and if anything were wont to discover that trying to pass for normal helped keep them alive and employable. The only reason these deer ticks fastened to society's testicles have any cachet today is the Internet, and who's to say that the next generation of these pests won't be worse?

    Today we live in a different sort of 'reality' in which social media gives countless nonentities the dopamine rush of mattering (so long as they march in lockstep with all the others, save all their looka-me venom for heretics, and cling with religious fanaticism to an agenda of dismantling Western civilization), and it's not long before we're all playing the game that cost us most of the 20th century, where an echo chamber of insider voices promote and praise each other's "work" until the rest of us go along with it.....

  95. I don’t feel sorry for Murray at all. He’s spent the last year and a half attacking Trump far more than he’s attacked the right.

    With that said, it’s a shame Yglesias’ polar bear hunting friends weren’t better hunters.

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  96. @Broski
    That's a very big deal, that Douthat published that in the NYT. He's been here and there over the years, but that's a great article he wrote.

    $10k per seems a little low, and a lump sum would not be a great idea. $75k per full descendant of slavery seems right, paid out over 10 years at the Fed funds rate growth as an annuity. Leftover goes to descendants per will or state law. A sliding scale of $50k for 1/2+ black American founding stock, $35k for 1/4+, and $20k for 1/8+ sounds more reasonable. Maybe a third could be paid as an immediate lump sum and the rest as an annuity.

    That would also allow the government to absorb the payouts over 10 years.

    $10k per seems a little low, and a lump sum would not be a great idea. $75k per full descendant of slavery seems right, paid out over 10 years at the Fed funds rate growth as an annuity. Leftover goes to descendants per will or state law. A sliding scale of $50k for 1/2+ black American founding stock, $35k for 1/4+, and $20k for 1/8+ sounds more reasonable. Maybe a third could be paid as an immediate lump sum and the rest as an annuity.

    With full bloods getting paid first while octaroons ride the back of the Reps bus. They were lucky to get any payout at all since most can pass for Italian. Just look at the way Beyonce flounces around with her blonde hair. btw my spellcheck omits octaroon.

    and if the best you can do is dig up ancestors who had British slave masters in the Caribbean, tough! Not our problem! Eric Holder and his ilk get nothing.

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    btw my spellcheck omits octaroon
     
    That would be because it's spelled octoroon (which is omitted by my spell check ; ). Probably worth at least doing a quick Google search to confirm spelling before posting something like that. I wonder if spell check consistently omits words noted as "dated, offensive" in the dictionary?
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    If one is anti-nationalist, how can one accuse the enemy of treason.

    Anti-nationalism is rejection of national loyalty, sovereignty, and independence.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6H4S4mVUAE-XpU.jpg

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  98. In the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.

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    No fair! That's hardly even time to paint a single room (two coats).
    , @Mr. Anon

    In the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.
     
    I thought I was the one who coined that phrase:

    In the future everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes

    Turns out, I wasn't. It goes back aways, at least to 2005:

    Alternet: In the future everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes

  99. @AndrewR
    For a supposedly Hitlerian figure, Bannon sure seems to love the Jews.

    ,
    I wouldn’t say that Bannon loves the Jews. I think he admires Israel, but despises Jewish liberals.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    He seems to unironically endorse the "Judeo-Christian" term.
  100. @JohnnyD
    According to the Huffington Post, Steve Bannon is also litteraly Hitler because he made a couple of references to "The Camp of Saints."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-camp-of-the-saints-immigration_us_58b75206e4b0284854b3dc03

    I was goong to make a joke about trash and Hitler, but recently I wrote “dessert tent” instead of “desert tent” on iSteve, so I’ll keep my trap shut…

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    What's wrong with the "dessert tent?" Second only to the cocktail tent it's my favorite venue at any Derby party.
  101. @guest
    Given what happened with the Refugee Crisis, any educated person who hasn't at least checked out Camp of the Saints and thought, "Hey, that's apt," is derelict in their intellectual duty.

    ,
    Ironically, it’s the “educated” people in Europe who believe that there’s nothing wrong with bringing in all of these refugees.

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    • Replies: @guest
    Yes, and they're derelict. Our ruling intellectual class is sick, stupid, and getting sicker and stupider.
  102. @MG
    Charles Murray spat on Trump, the one man who stood up and stuck it back to the vile Left.

    Yes. I was going to vote for the Libertarians like I always do, and kept seeing Trump push back, and said I couldn’t not vote for the man if he was willing to put himself through that.

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  103. “White riot” is a song mocking white Europeans for being soft -”too chicken to even try it”. The point is that black people fight injustice and white people just imbibe the dominant capitalist ideology (“white people go to school where they teach you how to be thick”). A “white riot” in Strummer’s world view is an oxymoron, a joke.

    “Safe European Home” is more ambiguous, but it is easy to read it as a self-mocking song about how Europeans aren’t brave or strong enough to hang with Jamaicans. Attributing the high crime rate in Jamaica primarily to blacks isn’t necessarily “woke” or “racist.” Attributing the high crime rate to genetic factors would be “noticing”, but that is not what the Clash are doing. I suspect Strummer and Jones would have given you a spiel about how the legacy of colonialism and injust capitalist economic exploitation are the primary factors responsible for Jamaica’s high black crime rate. Just like Yglesias would.

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    • Replies: @BB753
    I agree. Just listen to the liberal twaddle in their song "Straight to Hell".

    https://youtu.be/bkyCrx4DyMk
    , @Lurker
    That's Strummer and (((Jones))). Just like Yglesias!
  104. @Jefferson
    White people in Jamaica aren't suppose to venture off the beach hotel resorts.

    I’ve been there several times. All-inclusive is the only way to roll in Jamaica. Anything else is just unnecessary risk-taking.

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  105. @SFG
    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/opinion/sunday/a-different-bargain-on-race.html

    (Not (((there))), silly. He works for the NYT.)

    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

    I think we all know that if there ever was to be a reparations payment to blacks, a certain other tribe would have brand new shops right next door to the reparations office selling dental grills, rims, gold jewelry in the shape of the continent of Africa and/or a basketball, 5 button double breasted three-piece suits in every color of the rainbow, pimp canes, limited edition Beyonce coronation plates, etc. They’d be broke again in a fortnight, and the other tribe would be using its considerable power and influence to demand another round of reparations payments. They’d soon become an at least biannual event. The 30 for 30 episode about broke athletes comes to mind – I forget who it was who was released at the end of his NFL career with a check for $53K, and bought a $50K Hummer H2 on the way from the team offices.

    In an earlier time, perhaps a BBA analogue to the SBA would have been a reasonable compromise – an initial fund of cash for a black run Banks to invest in legitimate black owned and operated businesses at below market interest and fees with limited loan guarantees or something similar. But now Affirmative Action has morphed into Diversity which is deemed to be valuable in itself and of benefit to the majority population and as such won’t be easily excised. In any event since there’s an irrebuttable presumption that we’re all equal in ability and effort, black failure is always the effect of white racism. So any compromise or settlement will inevitably fail, and the failure will be used as evidence that we have “more work to do” to eradicate white racism to free blacks to succeed. Once whetted, the black appetite for reparations will become insatiable and never ending.

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    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @ben tillman
    Yep. Any reparations will just whet the appetite for more.
    , @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    I think we all know that if there ever was to be a reparations payment to blacks, a certain other tribe would have brand new shops right next door to the reparations office selling dental grills, rims, gold jewelry in the shape of the continent of Africa and/or a basketball, 5 button double breasted three-piece suits in every color of the rainbow, pimp canes, limited edition Beyonce coronation plates, etc. They’d be broke again in a fortnight, and the other tribe would be using its considerable power and influence to demand another round of reparations payments.
     
    In The Autobiography of Malcolm X, the author relates the following joke. IIRC, Barry Goldwater or someone high up in his campaign was accused of telling the joke, but Goldwater denied it. I don't remember the joke word for word, but it goes something like this:

    A white man, a black man, and a Jewish man all die and go to heaven. St. Peter tells them that they each get two wishes. They can have anything they want, but they must choose wisely, because these choices will have to last them for all eternity.

    The white man asked for a nice home in the suburbs and a well balanced investment portfolio.

    The black man asked for a million dollars and a brand new Cadillac.

    The Jewish man asked for some imitation jewelry and "that colored boy's address."

    , @Forbes

    So any compromise or settlement will inevitably fail, and the failure will be used as evidence that we have “more work to do” to eradicate white racism to free blacks to succeed. Once whetted, the black appetite for reparations will become insatiable and never ending.
     
    Yup.
  106. […] I went to the place where every white face is an. Invitation to robbery. An' sitting here in my safe European home. I don't want to go back there again. Source link […]

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  107. @Daniel H
    >> he’d tell the rest of them to their face that immigrant vigor was necessary.

    Some vigor.

    http://www.magnetmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/mick-jones350c.jpg

    Emily Post claims that only the immigrants of particular background are allowed to use the v- word.

    Rhodes to Mick Jones to Rachid Taha:
    “Wuz up, my vigor !?”

    Have some respect for a basic Etiquette.

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  108. It’s interesting watching guys like Yglesias & Bouie counter the Bell Curve & IQ. Normally these guys attack an argument even if they end up attacking the person. However with this topic they just attack the messenger. Then deem the subject unworthy of debate.

    That doesn’t work. I believe Sowell came up with a half way decent counter to the Bell Curve. They should at least use the arguments there to not look stupid.

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    It’s interesting watching guys like Yglesias & Bouie counter the Bell Curve & IQ. Normally these guys attack an argument even if they end up attacking the person. However with this topic they just attack the messenger. Then deem the subject unworthy of debate.

    The left doesn't have a credible answer. It is also demoralized and lacking a strategy. As Jon Stewart (Leibowitz) says, "What? Democrats are in disarray? No. They have a plan. Believe me." I think there is a good chance if you talked to MY behind closed doors as a fellow Jew, he would acknowledge that TBC is correct but due to the fact he is a paid lying propagandist, he will never discuss TBC and associated topics truthfully.

    This is somewhat OT but I think Steve will find it very interesting. A cogent left-wing perspective, data driven analysis of the online media-sphere, left and Trumpist, with the right centered around Breitbart. Note the NYT is basically on a par with Mother Jones in terms of partisanship! As expected.

    http://www.cjr.org/analysis/breitbart-media-trump-harvard-study.php
  109. @Peter Akuleyev
    "White riot" is a song mocking white Europeans for being soft -"too chicken to even try it". The point is that black people fight injustice and white people just imbibe the dominant capitalist ideology ("white people go to school where they teach you how to be thick"). A "white riot" in Strummer's world view is an oxymoron, a joke.

    "Safe European Home" is more ambiguous, but it is easy to read it as a self-mocking song about how Europeans aren't brave or strong enough to hang with Jamaicans. Attributing the high crime rate in Jamaica primarily to blacks isn't necessarily "woke" or "racist." Attributing the high crime rate to genetic factors would be "noticing", but that is not what the Clash are doing. I suspect Strummer and Jones would have given you a spiel about how the legacy of colonialism and injust capitalist economic exploitation are the primary factors responsible for Jamaica's high black crime rate. Just like Yglesias would.

    I agree. Just listen to the liberal twaddle in their song “Straight to Hell”.

    https://youtu.be/bkyCrx4DyMk

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  110. Joe Strummer, like Charles Murray, was a Noticer, which means he was Literally Hitler.

    That might be so, but I find it hard to reconcile that view of Strummer and his work with my own direct recollection of his political stances at the time. I remember the Strummer who was an old school leftist who very publicly stood with the aggressively and violently anti-white and anti-nationalist organisations the Anti-Nazi League and Rock Against Racism.

    I was never a Clash enthusiast, but I recall those stances quite clearly, and I recall listening to a later interview with Strummer on the radio that made absolutely clear his determinedly Goodwhite and conventionally anti-racist opinions.

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  111. @Steve Sailer
    Wasn't that popular with Desert Storm troops in 1991?

    Rock the Kashbah is probably their greatest hit song.

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  112. @Steve Sailer
    Wasn't that popular with Desert Storm troops in 1991?

    These pesky, Hitlerian Charles Murrays will use all kind of the most ridiculous excuses to distance themselves from the Führer:

    “… In a rare moment of same-faith bonding, NME writer Charles Shaar Murray told me that his grandmother had to scrub pavements for the Nazis in Vienna, which he felt drew him to the blues and all sufferers’ music, such as punk…”

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/27/never-mind-swastikas-secret-history-punky-jews

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  113. @guest
    I wanted to see the context of that tweet before commenting on it, because it makes no sense to me. Obviously, the upshot is everyone not on my side is Hitler. But I mean strict, word-by-word sense. What's with the "anyway," for instance? But I can't find it.

    Constantly surprises me what literary incompetence one finds among people who make a living at writing. Academics are one thing, because they've built sinecures and no one expects anything from them, except to have fellow academics publish their unread books and articles. But aren't actual human beings supposed to read Yglesias' drivel? What do they do instead? Roll their eyes back and have fits after clicking, blackout, and forget all about it until the next click?

    Or does he make a living at something else? Like how the Kardashians are professional Kardashians?

    “Constantly surprises me what literary incompetence one finds among people who make a living at writing.”

    Yeah, it’s pretty strange, huh? It might have something to do with the fact that the Left’s writing is largely substance-free, it’s just name-calling and demands that opponents be censored or lose their jobs. Since anyone can do simple tasks like that, the only competition is on who can do it more or in more novel circumstances.

    And there’s a little competition to be a novel source. For example, even though Matty Yglesias is just another Jewish guy with an opinion (ho-hum), he has a fashionably Hispanic surname, so he can graduate directly from Harvard (which itself had probably admitted him on the basis of his vowel-rich moniker) into the pages of The Atlantic as their resident child-blogger telling the rubes how to think. Pretty much everything he says is reliably wrong as well as atrociously written, but no matter, the show must go on, preferably with a “diverse” cast. Now, in spite of never having done a real day’s work in his life, Yglesias lives in a $1.2 million house. Not too shabby for a guy who can’t think his way out of a paper bag.

    tl;dr: The deck is stacked.

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    • Replies: @Olorin

    into the pages of The Atlantic as their resident child-blogger telling the rubes how to think.
     
    But rubes don't read The Atlantic, MO.

    The readership of most news magazines is aging—and faster than the population overall. The exception, The Atlantic, has the oldest readership of all.
     
    http://www.journalism.org/numbers/median-age-of-readership-by-magazine/

    That's MEDIAN age.

    Compare:

    http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2013/news-magazines-embracing-their-digital-future/news-magazines-by-the-numbers/

    Now maybe the magazine is in fact trying to pick up kindern as readers. But I think that Matt Yglesias is their child-blogger because it makes the aulder pharts feel relevant and still-edgy. They aren't going to apply critical thinking because their role as reader is to remain indulgent progressive parents. In other words the content manipulates them into self-lobotomizing and feeling good about it.
  114. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Chrisnonymous
    I was goong to make a joke about trash and Hitler, but recently I wrote "dessert tent" instead of "desert tent" on iSteve, so I'll keep my trap shut...

    What’s wrong with the “dessert tent?” Second only to the cocktail tent it’s my favorite venue at any Derby party.

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  115. Yeah, yeah, yeah … Don’t judge a man until you have walked a mile in his jackboots.

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  116. @JohnnyD
    @AndrewR,
    I wouldn't say that Bannon loves the Jews. I think he admires Israel, but despises Jewish liberals.

    He seems to unironically endorse the “Judeo-Christian” term.

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  117. @SPMoore8
    You see, the way you throw out rights like free speech and so on is to characterize your enemy as pure evil. True, your target may not have actually done anything evil, but, keeping in mind the "continuum" theory of everything, if you commit a microagression you are practically shooting someone into a pit, basically, according to the theory (A, B, C, D ~Z). Therefore, anyone who offends your sensibilities is basically Hitler and can be destroyed. It's pretty simple.

    Of course, Murray is not Hitler, not even close, but if his ideas took hold they would ultimately lead to Hitler, so, what's the difference? That's the logic in play here.

    But ten you could take the same logic and turn it around, arguing, in effect, that most people are in fact Hitler, and therefore all of them should be denied free speech and due process. Then it's only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H. Enjoy it, Matt!

    This is basically no different than the pre-modern way of handling your enemies or neighbors you didn't like: just say they are in league with the devil, and watch the show.

    It's really disgraceful that our public discourse has fallen so low.

    If someone commits a microaggression, it’s as though he murdered all of humanity.

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  118. @ATX Hipster
    Notice Yglesias being disingenuous about the point he's trying to make in the replies to his original tweet.

    "What are you talking about? I was just quoting some Clash lyrics..."

    The best part is he is doing this despite being a ‘public intellectual’ and likely not knowing who Murray was before this. Like with the confusion with the ‘Alt-Right’, ‘Alt-Lite’ and ‘Alt-Left’, these people have no idea what political points this new political order is making and why they are so much better fitted to the times.

    It’s amusing to watch because we’re watching the total fall of the legacy media and they are too incompetent to know how to stop it.

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  119. You’ll recall Murray threw the hbd crown under the bus a while back. Now hopefully he sees what is going on.

    Denouncing people as racists won’t save his skin. A lesson for the others.

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  120. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Sammler
    I realize it's a high bar, but Yglesias is probably the most intellectually dishonest man on the internet. See Udolpho's classic "The Crassest Hobbit" which is now about 10 years old.

    yes – maybe he got himself a huge mortgage after the mugging which he won’t be able to keep paying without bending over for the oligarchs who pay his wages

    journalist = exceptionally well paid whore

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    Lest we forget – whenever a mainstream journalist is mentioned

    1) 13% of the population commit 50%+ of the homicides

    and

    2) the vast majority of inter racial violence is anti-white

    and the entire mainstream media lies about it.

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    I can’t really work up much sympathy for Murray over his ‘Two Minutes Hate’ recently. He was doing his own status signalling a few months ago against Trump before the election, despite knowing the score.

    Shows what truly matters to him: not the country, not the people, not even the pursuit of fairness, intellectual honesty, etc… no, its being able to rub elbows with the NYT crowd without sneers. And in the end, they do it to him anyway.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Shows what truly matters to him
     
    I'd say what matters most to him is his son - a deep state lefty who nonetheless came to his dad's defense on twitter.

    I can't fault him for that.
  123. Yglesias is a very bright young man. He knows all about racial differences in propensity towards violence. He has first hand experience with having the diversity beat him nearly to death. Yglesias has a young family to feed and thus he feels compelled to lie, in order to hold on to his livelihood. Yglesias is all to aware that if he tells the truth he will be cast out like Watson.

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  124. @eah
    Looking at Murray's twitter.com account, one wonders what it takes to get him angry -- what is the point of such milquetoast replies? -- better to just ignore all the idiotic smears being directed at him -- or start bashing Trump again -- or repeating old tweets showing he isn't a White Nationalist -- 'not that there's anything wrong with that'.

    Looking at Murray’s twitter.com account, one wonders what it takes to get him angry — what is the point of such milquetoast replies?

    That’s why it’s called the Silent Generation. They were children during the worst of the 20th Century. The allergic reaction is most acute in them.

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    • Replies: @guest
    Murray was born in '43. He couldn't remember the bad years, assuming like normal humans he has no memories from before the age of 3 or so. He grew up in the mid- to late 40s/50s, which was only the worst part of the 20th century to idiotic boomers.

    Dubya Bush is a regular boomer, not a borderline case, plus a politician instead of an academic. He famously made a habit of never responding to attacks. That was because he was what I call a squishy-con, not because he shared Silent Generation habits. Murray is a squishy-libertario-con. These people live in a fantasy gentleman's world and don't realize they're in a fight for keeps, is all.

  125. OFF TOPIC : “The Honorable” Loretta Lynch has just called for Blood in the Streets. Have a nice day.

    https://youtu.be/bX7DsCeTfwM

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  126. @SPMoore8
    You see, the way you throw out rights like free speech and so on is to characterize your enemy as pure evil. True, your target may not have actually done anything evil, but, keeping in mind the "continuum" theory of everything, if you commit a microagression you are practically shooting someone into a pit, basically, according to the theory (A, B, C, D ~Z). Therefore, anyone who offends your sensibilities is basically Hitler and can be destroyed. It's pretty simple.

    Of course, Murray is not Hitler, not even close, but if his ideas took hold they would ultimately lead to Hitler, so, what's the difference? That's the logic in play here.

    But ten you could take the same logic and turn it around, arguing, in effect, that most people are in fact Hitler, and therefore all of them should be denied free speech and due process. Then it's only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H. Enjoy it, Matt!

    This is basically no different than the pre-modern way of handling your enemies or neighbors you didn't like: just say they are in league with the devil, and watch the show.

    It's really disgraceful that our public discourse has fallen so low.

    Then it’s only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H.

    The Revolution always eats its own. The Beast must be fed. Once the Beast has eaten all of the obvious enemies of the Revolution, the Beast turns its eye toward the weaker members of the home team. This is by design, in order to keep everyone enthusiastic about the Revolution. If you have run out of genuine enthusiasm, then fear of being consumed by the Beast is a good substitute. Matt Yglesias – remember not to stop clapping too soon.

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  127. @Broski
    O/T I think Steve pretty much brought to America's attention the idea of a Deep State with some Turkey posts a few years ago. Here is Charles Krauthammer humorously addressing the phrase in primetime on Fox News:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/445499/trump-deep-state-battle-fighting-bureaucrats-bitter-democrats-lost

    That may be a trial balloon from the deep state offering a truce to Trump for purposes of purging the Obama holdovers in exchange for preserving deep state perks/prerogatives/the empire.

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  128. @guest
    Trumpophobia trumps contrariness.

    It’s not phobia when you really are in danger. Not of his life, but certainly his livelihood and status are in grave danger should Trump succeed.

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    • Replies: @guest
    I didn't mean it in the sense of irrational fear, but in the hate, contempt, dislike, intent to repress sense.
  129. @Anonymous

    Charles Murray spat on Trump, the one man who stood up and stuck it back to the vile Left.
     
    Yep. Could you imagine any other guy having the balls of Trump to fucking take on the enemies of America and Western civilization and just keep swinging. It's been like 18 months of daily cage match fights with tag-team opponents. You can write all the worthless books on sociological problems (merely descriptive, not even prescriptive), but when a figure comes along and has the fortitude, natural ability, and experience to bring about radically beneficial change, you attack him daily. Trump is a threat to guys like Murray, because he reveals what insignificant little men they are who have no ability to change things for the better.

    Trump is a threat to guys like Murray, because he reveals what insignificant little men they are who have no ability to change things for the better.

    No, the two types are complimentary, and will succeed or fall depending on the extent to which that is recognized, by both the principals and their various supporters.

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    Every political regime requires Ideas and the Muscle to immanentize it. Ideological conservatives like Murray have spent the past several decades pretending they didn't need Muscle. That's how I used to think: the cogency, the elegance of my Ideas will carry the day! Not true. No amount of argumentation or even data will convince a Matt Yglesias that all children are not equally educable. No parade of historical, real world-failures will convince the Marxist that the labor theory of value does not describe reality. So if you want a country where you can politely debate Enlightenment concepts like inalienable rights, then you need (1) a territory, and (2) a people with the IQ and time preference to appreciate abstract ideas and a temperamental aversion to violence, and (3) lots of razor wire and machine gun emplacements to keep out all the people who can out-thug, out-breed and out-vote you.

    Murray has the typical ideologue's conceit: he thinks his lofty ideas built America and sustain it. That is only partially true. America was built by a group of ornery Anglo-Celts and defended by two oceans and weak neighbors north and south. Murray, George Will, and all the other cucks who grew up in 88% white America soothingly told everyone that inside every Meso-American was a Republican-voting WASP just waiting to get out. Donald Trump has a much more realistic view of human nature and he is in effect asking the conservative-minded elite just what the hell they've been doing for the past twenty years.

    Trump is like the boss who storms into the shop where everybody's sitting on their ass smoking a cigarette. "What are you doing? Man the stations! Get to work! Conserve! Murray's the grumbling shop steward who can't hack it in the new reality.
    , @bored identity
    Wrong.
    Sad.
    (...and Bad for America)

    Don't ask For Who-Whom Bell Curve Rings.

    Charles Pussay's hemorrhoid inciting sinecure with neocon-classicist AEI is more important to him than the future of this country, daily ordeals of blue collared populace, or any principal stance on the issues he personally propels in his books as being crucially important to any functioning society.
    I am not wasting a single pixel more to sympathize with a six figured salaried white liver whose bell-curving, stomach-churning lack of basic integrity makes even the shiftiest Appalachian oxycontin enthusiast to look like St. Thomas Moore

    He'll be just fine.
    There's a reason why unrepentant cosmopoliethnocentrics such as Bill Kristol are fully in support of Murray :



    (From Wa-Po)

    Murray said he felt like students were protesting a perceived persona more than a person, one they’d labeled “a racist, sexist pseudo scientist.”

    Asked why he thinks he continues to arouse such passion 23 years after “The Bell Curve” was published, Murray said he could only speculate.

    “I think there is this rage on campuses about Donald Trump and — as someone who has written pretty explicitly about my disapproval of Trump — I can sympathize with that.”

    “But if you have someone that they can say, ‘This is one of those people who is the problem,’ then they latch on to that person,” he added. “That’s who I was to them.”

    “White supremacist?” he said Friday.
    “Let’s see: if you have a guy who was married for 13 years to an Asian woman and who has two lovely Asian daughters, wouldn’t that disqualify him from membership in the white supremacist club?”

     

    Murray & Trump two sides of the same coin?

    Nope.

    The first is a spineless opportunistic academic with a mortgage; the latter is Sign of the Times opportunistic alpha with a Messianic tendencies, and more than decent dose of patriotism for a billionaire.

    "Big difference!', as my favorite Tweeting Orangutan would say.

    Trump is undoubtedly narcissistic ogre, but has enough life experience to figure out that the future US History schoolbook's narrative - that has been meticulously prepared by hu-humering deep-shi*t state niners - is already removing legacy of Buchanan,Pierce,Fillmore
    , and Harding, all together from the chapter titled " The Worst President Ever" to allow extra space for a caricature of DJT temper tantruming on a pile of rubble with a partially ripped MAGA placard.

    Once you know that, Trump's Messianic urge to become modern day Hadrian is more understandable.

    It's Immortality, stupid!
    , @Mr. Anon

    No, the two types are complimentary, and will succeed or fall depending on the extent to which that is recognized, by both the principals and their various supporters.
     
    A guy like Murray is only complimentary to Trump if he, you know, compliments him............rather than attacks him. You could sensibly argue that it helps Murray's cause that he supported Hillary, that it makes his ideas more acceptable, more palatable to the left. But what did his bending of the knee get him? Both him and his ideas are excoriated.
    , @guest
    We'll need Murrays, in the sense that we'll need ideas and we'll need to have people to run our universities. (Or what we replace the universities with.) But that's beside the point.

    Murray is In the Arena. If he wants to be squishy, he can go back to his think tank, write a book, teach some students, or whatever. There's absolutely no benefit to being In the Arena and acting the way he does, however.
    , @res
    I think you mean complementary: http://www.thewritingsite.org/complementary-vs-complimentary/
  130. @SFG
    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/opinion/sunday/a-different-bargain-on-race.html

    (Not (((there))), silly. He works for the NYT.)

    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

    Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

    Hopefully.

    Can you think of someone better to set the national agenda? Who cares if they’re kicking and screaming, as long as they’re dragged in his direction.

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  131. I’m not sure what a Noticer is but I’d say that Steve Sailer is Woke.

    It’s not a bad term really. I kind of like it.

    It’s better than that juvenile “red pilled” expression anyway.

    “Red pilled” has the advantage or disadvantage of seeing yourself as internally changed and with no need to ever contemplate these issues any more. It’s like god-received conviction andbit’s a hell of a drug. But of course it is subject to all of the flaws that such received revelations are subject to.

    For a less relugious experience, “Woke” is about as good as it gets.

    P.S. I has never heard of that White Riot song before. I’ve been talking about that for quite a while. (I finally had the chance in Athens last year. It wasn’t a riot with a purpose but it was awesome. I got tear gas bulleted and couldn’t see, breathe or swallow. It was one of the best nights of my life. Just imagine how good it would be if I would have beaten a couple of wall street honchos, grabbed a couple of their daughters, made out with half a million in cash… Younf men like me were made for war. Not the enervating political war of the comment sections but war.)

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  132. @Frau Katze
    The backlash is spreading. West Hunter (Cochran) posted on it and one of his commenters found this, a hatchet job on Razib Khan (an unlikely "white nationalist" but that doesn't stop them.)

    Steve is referred to in most disparaging terms.

    https://undark.org/article/race-science-razib-khan-racism/

    I have vague memories of the interweb’s hyper-vigilant offence-finders-general getting quite excited about tarring Khan with antisemitism, maybe about 2006-’09? Nobody could quite work out what they were on about, so it all fell a bit flat.
    For some arcane reason, some of them insisted on calling him Rajiv. I do remember that.

    [ed.] tl;dr. The Eye never sleeps

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  133. @Mr. Anon

    The Siege of Krishnapur by J.G. Farrell is a highly readable (and often funny) fictionalized account of the siege of Lucknow and its English population in 1857/58 by native Indian mutineers.
     
    Flashman in the Great Game, also fictional, also describes the siege of Lucknow, as well as the siege of Cawnpore. It's a great read.

    All of George McDonald Fraser’s Flashman series are good. They made one into a movie starring Malcolm McDowell; don’t know why there weren’t more like the Sharpe’s movies Sean Bean did.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    I whole-heartedly agree. All of the Flashman novels are great. Excellent. Outstanding. (although the movie version of Flashman was pretty disappointing). Fraser also wrote the screenplay to Richard Lester's magnificent production of The Three Musketeers and The Four Musketeers
    , @donut
    Just a guess but Royal Flash was probably the only book of the Flashman series that could be made on a reasonable budget . The others would require a "cast of thousands" and several international locations .
  134. @Kyle McKenna
    "Kill all de White People" is getting so complicated.

    "How are you as an industry leader going to begin to engage from this day forward in a way that holds you and others accountable for their caucasity?"

    "Caucasity" is a sardonic term for whiteness.

    http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/article_71df225e-00ae-11e7-ab08-efc9ffda27b0.html
     

    Best said in a Rhett Butler voice. “Why, ma’am, I believe I don’t care for such sheer caucasity.”

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  135. @Clyde
    Come on Matt's a real smart cookie. He cannot come up with a virtually or literally before the word Hitler to jazz it up a bit? What would Hitler do if mugged in Washingtoon DC by inner city yoof, while out to buy some Ben & Jerry's or Häagen-Dazs. Does Adolf carry a knife most of time ? A gun?

    Adolf used to go around handing out daggers with his gang-sign on to all and sundry. ‘Course he’d be tooled up, 24/7. Which incidentally proves that the rioters at Berkeley are nahtzees. Only a fascist would carry a dagger, and not a saintly, harmless, ethnic knife.

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  136. @eah
    Looking at Murray's twitter.com account, one wonders what it takes to get him angry -- what is the point of such milquetoast replies? -- better to just ignore all the idiotic smears being directed at him -- or start bashing Trump again -- or repeating old tweets showing he isn't a White Nationalist -- 'not that there's anything wrong with that'.

    No, he’s playing a blinder. Nothing gets these no-marks and cretins more apoplectic than mildly benevolent insouciance.
    He should take to wearing a (beige) cardigan, fill the pockets with Werther’s Originals, and hand them out to particularly splenetic complainers with a Dalai Lama smile, and a pat on the head.

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  137. @Clyde
    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only.

    The right must respond that the only fair form of reparations will be based on the recipients percentage of American slave blood. So full bloods will get eight times more Reps than one eighth bloods. This will keep the reparations big mouths bickering forever.

    And if you are an American black whose only slave blood comes from a Jamaican or Haitian slave ancestor, you are shyte out of luck. This will add to the infighting/

    Do blacks with Massa’s surname have to sue themselves? Or undergo gene therapy?

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  138. @Alec Leamas
    I think we all know that if there ever was to be a reparations payment to blacks, a certain other tribe would have brand new shops right next door to the reparations office selling dental grills, rims, gold jewelry in the shape of the continent of Africa and/or a basketball, 5 button double breasted three-piece suits in every color of the rainbow, pimp canes, limited edition Beyonce coronation plates, etc. They'd be broke again in a fortnight, and the other tribe would be using its considerable power and influence to demand another round of reparations payments. They'd soon become an at least biannual event. The 30 for 30 episode about broke athletes comes to mind - I forget who it was who was released at the end of his NFL career with a check for $53K, and bought a $50K Hummer H2 on the way from the team offices.

    In an earlier time, perhaps a BBA analogue to the SBA would have been a reasonable compromise - an initial fund of cash for a black run Banks to invest in legitimate black owned and operated businesses at below market interest and fees with limited loan guarantees or something similar. But now Affirmative Action has morphed into Diversity which is deemed to be valuable in itself and of benefit to the majority population and as such won't be easily excised. In any event since there's an irrebuttable presumption that we're all equal in ability and effort, black failure is always the effect of white racism. So any compromise or settlement will inevitably fail, and the failure will be used as evidence that we have "more work to do" to eradicate white racism to free blacks to succeed. Once whetted, the black appetite for reparations will become insatiable and never ending.

    Yep. Any reparations will just whet the appetite for more.

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  139. @TheBoom
    In the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.

    No fair! That’s hardly even time to paint a single room (two coats).

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  140. I’ve been thinking that a bloody revolution can’t happen because Americans are too well fed & distracted by entertainment and technology to bother. I may be very wrong.

    What a crappy, nihilistic society they create. Sex is based only on robotic consent (love & commitment relegated to the trash heap of history.) all other human relationships are defined by oppression requiring a guilty party to confess & repent.

    Although Trump won, things seem to be getting worse as we go faster in the leftward direction.

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  141. @Alec Leamas
    I think we all know that if there ever was to be a reparations payment to blacks, a certain other tribe would have brand new shops right next door to the reparations office selling dental grills, rims, gold jewelry in the shape of the continent of Africa and/or a basketball, 5 button double breasted three-piece suits in every color of the rainbow, pimp canes, limited edition Beyonce coronation plates, etc. They'd be broke again in a fortnight, and the other tribe would be using its considerable power and influence to demand another round of reparations payments. They'd soon become an at least biannual event. The 30 for 30 episode about broke athletes comes to mind - I forget who it was who was released at the end of his NFL career with a check for $53K, and bought a $50K Hummer H2 on the way from the team offices.

    In an earlier time, perhaps a BBA analogue to the SBA would have been a reasonable compromise - an initial fund of cash for a black run Banks to invest in legitimate black owned and operated businesses at below market interest and fees with limited loan guarantees or something similar. But now Affirmative Action has morphed into Diversity which is deemed to be valuable in itself and of benefit to the majority population and as such won't be easily excised. In any event since there's an irrebuttable presumption that we're all equal in ability and effort, black failure is always the effect of white racism. So any compromise or settlement will inevitably fail, and the failure will be used as evidence that we have "more work to do" to eradicate white racism to free blacks to succeed. Once whetted, the black appetite for reparations will become insatiable and never ending.

    I think we all know that if there ever was to be a reparations payment to blacks, a certain other tribe would have brand new shops right next door to the reparations office selling dental grills, rims, gold jewelry in the shape of the continent of Africa and/or a basketball, 5 button double breasted three-piece suits in every color of the rainbow, pimp canes, limited edition Beyonce coronation plates, etc. They’d be broke again in a fortnight, and the other tribe would be using its considerable power and influence to demand another round of reparations payments.

    In The Autobiography of Malcolm X, the author relates the following joke. IIRC, Barry Goldwater or someone high up in his campaign was accused of telling the joke, but Goldwater denied it. I don’t remember the joke word for word, but it goes something like this:

    A white man, a black man, and a Jewish man all die and go to heaven. St. Peter tells them that they each get two wishes. They can have anything they want, but they must choose wisely, because these choices will have to last them for all eternity.

    The white man asked for a nice home in the suburbs and a well balanced investment portfolio.

    The black man asked for a million dollars and a brand new Cadillac.

    The Jewish man asked for some imitation jewelry and “that colored boy’s address.”

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  142. Did Charles Murray really believe that when he signed on as #nevertrump that it would buy him some measure of protection?

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  143. @bored identity
    In case you missed it, BBC has a brand new programing that covers latest alternate controversy over Herr Murray and his sympathizers;



    ",,,An even greater shadow, however, is that of terrorism.

    Despite the efforts of our friends and allies in the Middle East, including the Greater Arab Republic’s veteran president, Saddam Hussein, Islamist extremism remains a genuine threat to the Fatherland and its neighbours.

    Only last week, Chancellor Petry told the Reichstag that enemy funding for Islamist terrorism had reached unprecedented levels.

    Of course, most of the money is coming from Washington DC, where the president of the world’s most infamous rogue state, Hillary Clinton, won power last November on a platform of ‘no compromise with National Socialism’.


    The U.S. has been an isolated pariah since conceding defeat in 1955, when the Germans dropped atomic bombs on St Louis and Philadelphia, but were too exhausted by war to mount a full-scale occupation..."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4273128/SS-GB-2017-Nazis-ruling-world-today.html

     

    So the BBC is joining the German election campaign, just in case. After all, Frauke Petry opposes unlimited immigration to Germany, which makes her a worthy successor to Hitler.

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  144. In the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.

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  145. @Desiderius

    Trump is a threat to guys like Murray, because he reveals what insignificant little men they are who have no ability to change things for the better.
     
    No, the two types are complimentary, and will succeed or fall depending on the extent to which that is recognized, by both the principals and their various supporters.

    Every political regime requires Ideas and the Muscle to immanentize it. Ideological conservatives like Murray have spent the past several decades pretending they didn’t need Muscle. That’s how I used to think: the cogency, the elegance of my Ideas will carry the day! Not true. No amount of argumentation or even data will convince a Matt Yglesias that all children are not equally educable. No parade of historical, real world-failures will convince the Marxist that the labor theory of value does not describe reality. So if you want a country where you can politely debate Enlightenment concepts like inalienable rights, then you need (1) a territory, and (2) a people with the IQ and time preference to appreciate abstract ideas and a temperamental aversion to violence, and (3) lots of razor wire and machine gun emplacements to keep out all the people who can out-thug, out-breed and out-vote you.

    Murray has the typical ideologue’s conceit: he thinks his lofty ideas built America and sustain it. That is only partially true. America was built by a group of ornery Anglo-Celts and defended by two oceans and weak neighbors north and south. Murray, George Will, and all the other cucks who grew up in 88% white America soothingly told everyone that inside every Meso-American was a Republican-voting WASP just waiting to get out. Donald Trump has a much more realistic view of human nature and he is in effect asking the conservative-minded elite just what the hell they’ve been doing for the past twenty years.

    Trump is like the boss who storms into the shop where everybody’s sitting on their ass smoking a cigarette. “What are you doing? Man the stations! Get to work! Conserve! Murray’s the grumbling shop steward who can’t hack it in the new reality.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Well said, sir! The trick is balancing the temperamental aversion to violence with the need for the razor wire and machine guns; weapons are nothing without the will to employ them.
  146. @Peter Akuleyev
    "White riot" is a song mocking white Europeans for being soft -"too chicken to even try it". The point is that black people fight injustice and white people just imbibe the dominant capitalist ideology ("white people go to school where they teach you how to be thick"). A "white riot" in Strummer's world view is an oxymoron, a joke.

    "Safe European Home" is more ambiguous, but it is easy to read it as a self-mocking song about how Europeans aren't brave or strong enough to hang with Jamaicans. Attributing the high crime rate in Jamaica primarily to blacks isn't necessarily "woke" or "racist." Attributing the high crime rate to genetic factors would be "noticing", but that is not what the Clash are doing. I suspect Strummer and Jones would have given you a spiel about how the legacy of colonialism and injust capitalist economic exploitation are the primary factors responsible for Jamaica's high black crime rate. Just like Yglesias would.

    That’s Strummer and (((Jones))). Just like Yglesias!

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  147. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Lot
    MY is 3/4 Ashkenazi, with the remaining Catholic paternal line from Galacia in NW Spain, where his great grandfather was born. It is not clear if he has any "real" Cuban in him, it seems more likely that great grandpa married a fellow native of Spain, either in Spain where he later returned or else another one he met in Cuba.

    MY is 3/4 Ashkenazi, with the remaining Catholic paternal line from Galacia in NW Spain, where his great grandfather was born. It is not clear if he has any “real” Cuban in him, it seems more likely that great grandpa married a fellow native of Spain, either in Spain where he later returned or else another one he met in Cuba

    “Real Cuban ” ?
    Do you mean Arawak Indian , the inhabitants that were there when the Spanish arrived ?? They were all killed . Modern day Cubans are either descendants of Spaniards or descended of black slaves or mulattos . MY is a twit but he is as ” real ” a Cuban as the rest of the inhabitants of the island .

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  148. @Unwanted Party Guest
    I'm really surprised that Yglesias speaks positively on Twitter of leftist censorship every now and then; it seems like exactly the kind of the kind of issue where his contrarian liberalism would be triggered.

    Also, I wonder if Yglesias is secretly and guiltily curious about the research on race differences in average intelligence (he once tweeted an RCA post on the subject), or if he genuinely believes that all we need to Close the Gap is exactly the right set of neoliberal reforms.

    I wonder if Yglesias is secretly and guiltily curious about…

    Don’t ascribe too much intellectual integrity to Yglesias and his ilk.

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  149. @AndrewR
    Was it ever really higher or has the internet simply helped to illuminate what was always there??

    No, th Internet exacerbates this to an incredible degree.

    Ten years prior to the WWW becoming a ubiquitous feature of everyday life, the neurotic losers who comprise the front ranks of the SJWs – the Pareenes and Lindy Wests and Jesse Benns – were nonentities, and if anything were wont to discover that trying to pass for normal helped keep them alive and employable. The only reason these deer ticks fastened to society’s testicles have any cachet today is the Internet, and who’s to say that the next generation of these pests won’t be worse?

    Today we live in a different sort of ‘reality’ in which social media gives countless nonentities the dopamine rush of mattering (so long as they march in lockstep with all the others, save all their looka-me venom for heretics, and cling with religious fanaticism to an agenda of dismantling Western civilization), and it’s not long before we’re all playing the game that cost us most of the 20th century, where an echo chamber of insider voices promote and praise each other’s “work” until the rest of us go along with it…..

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  150. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Yes, the hard Left mindset of justifying violence to block crimethink is now the norm and is becoming the default stance of the Left in general (since the hard Left will intimidate their more squishy center-left allies into compliance). The left must be prevented from winning again until Trump's reforms are so profound that cultural Marxism cannot recover. This means a 10-20 culture war which our side wins decisively. Since the left is going to continue to try and weaponize mass 3rd world immigration as their brass knuckle contingency, it should be simple enough to bring woke normies along and rack up a string of victories. But it will be a long long battle.

    it should be simple enough to bring woke normies along and rack up a string of victories. But it will be a long long battle.

    It would be even simpler if we didn’t have people like Charles Murray, George Will, John McCain and Lindsey Graham actively subverting our interests.

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    With friends like that, who needs enemies?

    Look, Trump didn't get where he is today (POTUS, which is no small thing) thanks to those guys, so he doesn't really need them or owe them anything.

    The flip side of that is that they don't owe Trump anything either and so will continue to do whatever they please without considering whether it will help or hurt Trump. As for helping or hurting the American people, they have their own opinions about what is helpful and it is very late in the game for them to change their minds.
    , @NOTA
    How are you different from the guys on the right during the run up to the Iraq war who demanded that everyone on the right must support the war, or be cast out of the conservative movement?
  151. @SFG
    You know, I'm thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as 'scientific racism'.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask 'do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?' The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.

    “If we do this, surely they won’t call us Nazis!”

    The only people more hard headed than SJW tru believers are commenters here who think that well reasoned blog posts with pithy statements are going to win the day.

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  152. @Sammler
    I realize it's a high bar, but Yglesias is probably the most intellectually dishonest man on the internet. See Udolpho's classic "The Crassest Hobbit" which is now about 10 years old.

    Yglesias is the classic sophist. He masks his lies with virtue signalling and name calling, while simultaneously trying to convince you that he is brilliant.

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  153. @ben tillman
    Sometimes, when controversy arises (like the Trayvon Martin thing) and you're afraid that fake news is going to be the first draft of fake history, it's worth visiting the Last Refuge / Conservative Treehouse for a well-organized assessment of the facts.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/03/the-shadow-government-timeline/

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/04/towergate-begins-yes-if-trump-is-correct-even-partially-then-president-obama-might-be-in-big-trouble/#more-129509

    Interesting that their interpretation provides a rationale for the Trump/Russia furor as a justification of the surveillance. I wonder how this will play out. It has become incredibly easy to understand why there was so much panic when Trump won.

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  154. @Clyde

    $10k per seems a little low, and a lump sum would not be a great idea. $75k per full descendant of slavery seems right, paid out over 10 years at the Fed funds rate growth as an annuity. Leftover goes to descendants per will or state law. A sliding scale of $50k for 1/2+ black American founding stock, $35k for 1/4+, and $20k for 1/8+ sounds more reasonable. Maybe a third could be paid as an immediate lump sum and the rest as an annuity.
     
    With full bloods getting paid first while octaroons ride the back of the Reps bus. They were lucky to get any payout at all since most can pass for Italian. Just look at the way Beyonce flounces around with her blonde hair. btw my spellcheck omits octaroon.

    and if the best you can do is dig up ancestors who had British slave masters in the Caribbean, tough! Not our problem! Eric Holder and his ilk get nothing.

    btw my spellcheck omits octaroon

    That would be because it’s spelled octoroon (which is omitted by my spell check ; ). Probably worth at least doing a quick Google search to confirm spelling before posting something like that. I wonder if spell check consistently omits words noted as “dated, offensive” in the dictionary?

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  155. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Kampfing Apart.

    Yglesias belongs to the white elites that Murray wrote about.

    Rule of the this elite is to enjoy supremacy but accuse the whites who don’t enjoy privilege as being ‘nazis’. (Having privilege, they can feign compassion. In contrast, whites without privilege are more in struggle-mode. This is seen as cold and bigoted. Since all whites are tagged with ‘privilege’, even poorer whites are judged same way as rich ones. So, if poorer whites aren’t as ‘compassionate’ as rich Lib ones are, then they are ‘heartless’. As for blacks, even the richest are tagged with ‘victimhood’. So, we are to help the Obamas of the world.)

    Murray is hated because he is a turncoat member of elite who won’t fully adhere to narrative.

    Lib white/Jewish elites push a worldview that black failure is fault of ‘racism’, and therefore blacks need to stick with and obey the ‘good whites’ if they are to make any gains and have protection from ‘bad whites’.

    If Murray is right about IQ differences, the racial dynamics will change, and white/Jewish Libs won’t be able to manipulate blacks so easily. Blacks will see both Lib whites and Con whites the same way: genetically advantaged to achieve more in society.

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  156. @MG
    Charles Murray spat on Trump, the one man who stood up and stuck it back to the vile Left.

    Murray for all his academic bearing, doesn’t grasp that to the Left, Us, he will always be Them along with Trump and anyone else that doesn’t follow their orthodoxy. Peer-reviewed social science means nothing if it doesn’t abide by the party line.

    The Cucks have still failed to grasp this, that they are but useful idiots for now. Tucker Carlson, to his eternal credit, pointed this out last October, that the NeverTrump types were playing with fire. The deep state is going to fight tooth and nail, so Trump has no alternative but to fight back. Had Hillary won, or should they win in the future, there will be no choice, nor even a binary choice. At some point the pretense of a Washington Generals opponent is pointless, just do the trick shots and confetti bullshit to keep the crowd entertained and don bother making believe there is a contest.

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    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    He's odd that way. He should have known that he'd be Literally Hitler forever after the publication of The Bell Curve.

    His misjudged how the "elite" thinks.

    Other people who take on political correctness (say, Danish cartoonists drawing Mohamed) expect the fallout and don't gripe about. They're far worse off than Murray: there's a price on the head of people who mock Islam.

    Does Murray require special doors than can't be axed down, for example?

    But...I notice that after Charlie Hebdo, no one wants to go there anymore.

    Violence works.
  157. @Alec Leamas
    I think we all know that if there ever was to be a reparations payment to blacks, a certain other tribe would have brand new shops right next door to the reparations office selling dental grills, rims, gold jewelry in the shape of the continent of Africa and/or a basketball, 5 button double breasted three-piece suits in every color of the rainbow, pimp canes, limited edition Beyonce coronation plates, etc. They'd be broke again in a fortnight, and the other tribe would be using its considerable power and influence to demand another round of reparations payments. They'd soon become an at least biannual event. The 30 for 30 episode about broke athletes comes to mind - I forget who it was who was released at the end of his NFL career with a check for $53K, and bought a $50K Hummer H2 on the way from the team offices.

    In an earlier time, perhaps a BBA analogue to the SBA would have been a reasonable compromise - an initial fund of cash for a black run Banks to invest in legitimate black owned and operated businesses at below market interest and fees with limited loan guarantees or something similar. But now Affirmative Action has morphed into Diversity which is deemed to be valuable in itself and of benefit to the majority population and as such won't be easily excised. In any event since there's an irrebuttable presumption that we're all equal in ability and effort, black failure is always the effect of white racism. So any compromise or settlement will inevitably fail, and the failure will be used as evidence that we have "more work to do" to eradicate white racism to free blacks to succeed. Once whetted, the black appetite for reparations will become insatiable and never ending.

    So any compromise or settlement will inevitably fail, and the failure will be used as evidence that we have “more work to do” to eradicate white racism to free blacks to succeed. Once whetted, the black appetite for reparations will become insatiable and never ending.

    Yup.

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  158. Big new paper listing 49 disease linked genes that are much more common in Jews than in other Americans.

    Seems like at least half follow the Tay Sachs model: they enhance the IQ of carriers but maim or kill homozygous individuals.

    http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2016/09/25/077180.full.pdf

    An IQ focused article would have only used Ashkenazi and non-AJ white controls. This one has a mixed white black latino control group and non-Ashkenazi Jews in the study group. So you get as the single most common AR gene one that is found in Sephardi (and Armenians) but not much in Ashkenazi.

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    So Harry Turtledove wrote a book where the Nazis won and Jews lived in hiding. Tay-Sachs was discovered as a marker for Jewish ancestry and the book builds to a massive test being rolled out.

    Then its discovered that one of the Nazi High Command' grandchildren (Heydrich I think) tests positive for one of the markers and the test is scrapped cause obviously its flawed.
  159. @Ed
    It's interesting watching guys like Yglesias & Bouie counter the Bell Curve & IQ. Normally these guys attack an argument even if they end up attacking the person. However with this topic they just attack the messenger. Then deem the subject unworthy of debate.

    That doesn't work. I believe Sowell came up with a half way decent counter to the Bell Curve. They should at least use the arguments there to not look stupid.

    It’s interesting watching guys like Yglesias & Bouie counter the Bell Curve & IQ. Normally these guys attack an argument even if they end up attacking the person. However with this topic they just attack the messenger. Then deem the subject unworthy of debate.

    The left doesn’t have a credible answer. It is also demoralized and lacking a strategy. As Jon Stewart (Leibowitz) says, “What? Democrats are in disarray? No. They have a plan. Believe me.” I think there is a good chance if you talked to MY behind closed doors as a fellow Jew, he would acknowledge that TBC is correct but due to the fact he is a paid lying propagandist, he will never discuss TBC and associated topics truthfully.

    This is somewhat OT but I think Steve will find it very interesting. A cogent left-wing perspective, data driven analysis of the online media-sphere, left and Trumpist, with the right centered around Breitbart. Note the NYT is basically on a par with Mother Jones in terms of partisanship! As expected.

    http://www.cjr.org/analysis/breitbart-media-trump-harvard-study.php

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  160. @JohnnyD
    According to the Huffington Post, Steve Bannon is also litteraly Hitler because he made a couple of references to "The Camp of Saints."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-camp-of-the-saints-immigration_us_58b75206e4b0284854b3dc03

    Wow. Camp of the Saints was required reading for an introductory international relations course I took at the University of Pennsylvania in 1978. And the prof was a life long Democrat.

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  161. @The Anti-Gnostic

    it should be simple enough to bring woke normies along and rack up a string of victories. But it will be a long long battle.
     
    It would be even simpler if we didn't have people like Charles Murray, George Will, John McCain and Lindsey Graham actively subverting our interests.

    With friends like that, who needs enemies?

    Look, Trump didn’t get where he is today (POTUS, which is no small thing) thanks to those guys, so he doesn’t really need them or owe them anything.

    The flip side of that is that they don’t owe Trump anything either and so will continue to do whatever they please without considering whether it will help or hurt Trump. As for helping or hurting the American people, they have their own opinions about what is helpful and it is very late in the game for them to change their minds.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Well they better decide before this cold civil war goes hot.

    "But I'm an intellectual!" isn't going to get one out of a Deploreable Tribunal.
  162. @MG
    Charles Murray spat on Trump, the one man who stood up and stuck it back to the vile Left.

    You need to decide which question you care more about:

    a. Who’s side are you on?

    b. Who is right about some question of fact or morality?

    It seems to me that Murray spends a lot of time thinking about question (b) and trying to get the best answers he can, even when they put him on the opposite side of important issues as his team. That’s called intellectual integrity, and we need more of it in the world, not less.

    This is the same error the Yglesiases of the world are making–since Trump is on the “other side,” all’s fair in defeating him. It not only makes Yglesias look like an ass, it also helps justify a kind of World he’d never want to live in–one where who gets to speak is determined by who has he biggest gang of thugs behind him.

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    • Agree: Patrick Harris
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    You need to decide which question you care more about:

    a. Who’s side are you on?

    b. Who is right about some question of fact or morality?
     
    In a fight - and what is happening in this country, as Pat Buchanan pointed out 25 years ago, is a cultural war - Question (a) is more important. I care more about question (a).

    This is the same error the Yglesiases of the world are making–since Trump is on the “other side,” all’s fair in defeating him. It not only makes Yglesias look like an ass, it also helps justify a kind of World he’d never want to live in–one where who gets to speak is determined by who has he biggest gang of thugs behind him.
     
    How do you that Yglesias would not want to live in that kind of world? Perhaps that's exactly the kind of world he would prefer, provided that he's on the winning side.

    Often in life, whether you like it or not, whether you know it or not, you are on a side.
    , @MG
    Retaining one's intellectual integrity/bring critical of Trump and voting for Trump are not mutually exclusive. Unless one lives in ivory tower la-la land.
  163. https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/636154580322123776

    Charles Murray is in with the Deep State. Charles Murray is an intellectual enforcer for the American Empire’s ruling class. Charles Murray never suggests changing the basic political power structure of the United States.

    Charles Murray is notorious for his support of nation-wrecking mass immigration. Murray also sneakily says he’s concerned that capitalism has an image problem. Murray is smarter than that. Murray knows damn well that what we have in the USA and globally is not capitalism. It is central banker shysterism. When the “capital” is a debt-based fiat currency, you don’t have capitalism anymore.

    Charles Murray was a young man when LBJ’s 1965 Immigration Act was passed into law. Following closely was Nixon going off the gold standard in 1971. Charles Murray is smart enough to know that central bankers and their plutocrat masters use mass immigration to suppress the wage inflation that would ordinarily occur from monetary extremism — money printing and asset purchases…etc. The plutocrats benefit from the central banker cheap money by scooping up the proceeds from the asset bubbles created by money printing.

    Murray tries to pull the flinty Scot routine in his admonitions of prudence to the regular people who are under attack from globalization and mass immigration. In other words, Murray is a very genial sneaky bastard who protects the plutocrats by leading people away from the reason why everything is going to hell.

    Mass immigration must stop and tens of millions of foreigners allowed into the United States must be removed. The young people must declare all government debt in the United States to be odious, and then refuse to pay it.

    Charles Murray should be asked if he sees any connection between mass immigration and monetary extremism. Murray would say he sees what he’s paid to see, nothing more and nothing less.

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  164. @Unwanted Party Guest
    I'm really surprised that Yglesias speaks positively on Twitter of leftist censorship every now and then; it seems like exactly the kind of the kind of issue where his contrarian liberalism would be triggered.

    Also, I wonder if Yglesias is secretly and guiltily curious about the research on race differences in average intelligence (he once tweeted an RCA post on the subject), or if he genuinely believes that all we need to Close the Gap is exactly the right set of neoliberal reforms.

    This is the thing that screws us so badly about political correctness–we’d be way better off if guys like Yglesias were honestly looking st the data and thinking these questions through. Not only would the country be better off–hbd ideas would be better off with critical people taking a hard look at them and engaging instead of pointing-and-sputtering.

    But Yglesias simply cannot do that–to engage honestly and seriously with these ideas and facts would probably undermine his position in the world; concluding that he agreed with any substantial part of hbd ideas would certainly do so. Multiply that by a thousand, and you get one reason why so much of our public discussion on big important issues is so dumb. Independent thinking that leads you outside the acceptable range of belief ends your career–even too-close association with those ideas can wreck you.

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    I used to think that the lack of thinking on the part of liberal fools like Yglesias was not just due to being dishonest, I thought it might have something to do with not being trained to think scientifically about issues.

    But after what I have seen coming from the social sciences, especially anthropology, and the almost universal acceptance of the revealed truth that there is no such thing as race or racial differences, I realize this failure cannot be attributed to scientific ignorance. It is quite simply a willingness to lie to oneself and to others in order to preserve one's social standing.

    It is truly a perversion of scholarship, and it is frightening how common it is among so-called scholars who hold doctoral level degrees from our most prestigious universities.

    If these scientists are willing to lie for a living in order to maintain their social standing, it must be easy for a fool like Yglesias to do the same.
  165. @MG
    Charles Murray spat on Trump, the one man who stood up and stuck it back to the vile Left.

    That about sums Murray not to mention his article where he supports Hillary and rejoices at a bunch of Brahman hindus replacing white Americans. What a nasty piece of work he is.

    Of course he’s trying to walk it back now since Trump won. Won’t work, we’ve seen the nasty little elitist that he really is. I really don’t think he likes most whites especially the middle and lower class ones. I can just imagine how he’d take meeting the guy from “Dirty Jobs” Mike Rowe, he’d probably freak.

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  166. @Anonymous
    Towards the end of that article, there is a suggestion that "racists" are akin to "creationists". This literally the second time TODAY that I've seen this claim online, which I've never seen before. Is this some new trope, an attempt at inversion? Many of us badthinkers know what "liberal creationism" is. Are the leftists trying to emulate Trump's brilliant owning of the "fake news" trope?

    I assume they’re unaware of the race creationism meme, or they don’t care. Unlike “fake news,” creationism as an insult is a longstanding meme that can’t be robbed from the cradle. Lefties have a stable of anti-rightist insults, and they’re constantly scrolling through the options. This just so happens to be what they’ve stopped on, is all.

    One is to call the enemy racists/Nazis. That’s not very useful for this subject, because it’s already about racism. They’re looking to throw anti-science onto the pile. They favor two ways to disassociate their opposition from science: denialism, like with “climate change,” and creationism, which only stupid Christians believe in.

    They went with the latter, and it’s probably the stronger case because denial is too closely associated with holocaust denial, and I assume the idea of global warming denial already derives from holocaust denial. Once again, the Nazi label isn’t useful because we’re already taking racism for granted.

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  167. @Anon
    https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/838148529554096128

    Deep State, a growing meme

    Not a good thing. First, they embrace your meme. Then, they change its meaning. Six months from now, “Deep State” will be yet another word for liebruls (who, by the way, are the real racists).

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  168. @Steve Sailer
    Glitzkrieg is a pretty good name for the first, gay male wave of gentrifiers.

    Make the ghetto fabulous again!

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  169. Who isn’t Hitler anymore? Seems like everyone is Hitler.

    It’s like that old Dr Pepper commercial: I’m a Hitler, he’s a Hitler, she’s a Hitler, we’re all Hitler; wouldn’t you like to be a Hitler, too?

    Or a Monty Python sketch:
    Wife: Have you got anything without Hitler?
    Waitress: Well, there’s Hitler egg sausage and Hitler, that’s not got much Hitler in it.
    Wife: I don’t want ANY Hitler!
    Man: Why can’t she have egg bacon Hitler and sausage?
    Wife: THAT’S got Hitler in it!
    Man: Hasn’t got as much Hitler in it as Hitler egg sausage and Hitler, has it?

    We should all change our handles on social media (where possible) to _____Hitler for a day, just to rub their noses in it. And ridicule them, of course.

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  170. @JohnnyD
    @guest,
    Ironically, it's the "educated" people in Europe who believe that there's nothing wrong with bringing in all of these refugees.

    Yes, and they’re derelict. Our ruling intellectual class is sick, stupid, and getting sicker and stupider.

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  171. @NOTA
    You need to decide which question you care more about:

    a. Who's side are you on?

    b. Who is right about some question of fact or morality?

    It seems to me that Murray spends a lot of time thinking about question (b) and trying to get the best answers he can, even when they put him on the opposite side of important issues as his team. That's called intellectual integrity, and we need more of it in the world, not less.

    This is the same error the Yglesiases of the world are making--since Trump is on the "other side," all's fair in defeating him. It not only makes Yglesias look like an ass, it also helps justify a kind of World he'd never want to live in--one where who gets to speak is determined by who has he biggest gang of thugs behind him.

    You need to decide which question you care more about:

    a. Who’s side are you on?

    b. Who is right about some question of fact or morality?

    In a fight – and what is happening in this country, as Pat Buchanan pointed out 25 years ago, is a cultural war – Question (a) is more important. I care more about question (a).

    This is the same error the Yglesiases of the world are making–since Trump is on the “other side,” all’s fair in defeating him. It not only makes Yglesias look like an ass, it also helps justify a kind of World he’d never want to live in–one where who gets to speak is determined by who has he biggest gang of thugs behind him.

    How do you that Yglesias would not want to live in that kind of world? Perhaps that’s exactly the kind of world he would prefer, provided that he’s on the winning side.

    Often in life, whether you like it or not, whether you know it or not, you are on a side.

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  172. @Steve Sailer
    Glitzkrieg is a pretty good name for the first, gay male wave of gentrifiers.

    Or if they are wealthy, Ritzkrieg.

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  173. @Desiderius

    Trump is a threat to guys like Murray, because he reveals what insignificant little men they are who have no ability to change things for the better.
     
    No, the two types are complimentary, and will succeed or fall depending on the extent to which that is recognized, by both the principals and their various supporters.

    Wrong.
    Sad.
    (…and Bad for America)

    Don’t ask For Who-Whom Bell Curve Rings.

    Charles Pussay’s hemorrhoid inciting sinecure with neocon-classicist AEI is more important to him than the future of this country, daily ordeals of blue collared populace, or any principal stance on the issues he personally propels in his books as being crucially important to any functioning society.
    I am not wasting a single pixel more to sympathize with a six figured salaried white liver whose bell-curving, stomach-churning lack of basic integrity makes even the shiftiest Appalachian oxycontin enthusiast to look like St. Thomas Moore

    He’ll be just fine.
    There’s a reason why unrepentant cosmopoliethnocentrics such as Bill Kristol are fully in support of Murray :

    (From Wa-Po)

    Murray said he felt like students were protesting a perceived persona more than a person, one they’d labeled “a racist, sexist pseudo scientist.”

    Asked why he thinks he continues to arouse such passion 23 years after “The Bell Curve” was published, Murray said he could only speculate.

    “I think there is this rage on campuses about Donald Trump and — as someone who has written pretty explicitly about my disapproval of Trump — I can sympathize with that.”

    “But if you have someone that they can say, ‘This is one of those people who is the problem,’ then they latch on to that person,” he added. “That’s who I was to them.”

    “White supremacist?” he said Friday.
    “Let’s see: if you have a guy who was married for 13 years to an Asian woman and who has two lovely Asian daughters, wouldn’t that disqualify him from membership in the white supremacist club?”

    Murray & Trump two sides of the same coin?

    Nope.

    The first is a spineless opportunistic academic with a mortgage; the latter is Sign of the Times opportunistic alpha with a Messianic tendencies, and more than decent dose of patriotism for a billionaire.

    “Big difference!’, as my favorite Tweeting Orangutan would say.

    Trump is undoubtedly narcissistic ogre, but has enough life experience to figure out that the future US History schoolbook’s narrative – that has been meticulously prepared by hu-humering deep-shi*t state niners - is already removing legacy of Buchanan,Pierce,Fillmore
    , and Harding, all together from the chapter titled ” The Worst President Ever” to allow extra space for a caricature of DJT temper tantruming on a pile of rubble with a partially ripped MAGA placard.

    Once you know that, Trump’s Messianic urge to become modern day Hadrian is more understandable.

    It’s Immortality, stupid!

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  174. @The Anti-Gnostic

    it should be simple enough to bring woke normies along and rack up a string of victories. But it will be a long long battle.
     
    It would be even simpler if we didn't have people like Charles Murray, George Will, John McCain and Lindsey Graham actively subverting our interests.

    How are you different from the guys on the right during the run up to the Iraq war who demanded that everyone on the right must support the war, or be cast out of the conservative movement?

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    How are you different from the guys on the right during the run up to the Iraq war who demanded that everyone on the right must support the war, or be cast out of the conservative movement?
     
    There is a difference between not supporting and actively harming. McCain, Graham, and certain others in the Republican party, are actively trying to undermine the Trump administration.
    , @Jack Hanson
    Is this a real question?

    Because invading a foreign country for neocons actually isn't right wing and neither is proposition nation America.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Because I can point to tangibles: x number of fewer future Democrats crossing the border, x number of thugs kicked out to go be somebody else's problem, that factory on-shored and hiring x number of American citizens, x number of conservative jurists, etc.

    Also, my intellectual movement accurately read the zeitgeist and got a President elected. What has their intellectual movement done?
  175. @Lot
    Big new paper listing 49 disease linked genes that are much more common in Jews than in other Americans.

    Seems like at least half follow the Tay Sachs model: they enhance the IQ of carriers but maim or kill homozygous individuals.

    http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2016/09/25/077180.full.pdf

    An IQ focused article would have only used Ashkenazi and non-AJ white controls. This one has a mixed white black latino control group and non-Ashkenazi Jews in the study group. So you get as the single most common AR gene one that is found in Sephardi (and Armenians) but not much in Ashkenazi.

    So Harry Turtledove wrote a book where the Nazis won and Jews lived in hiding. Tay-Sachs was discovered as a marker for Jewish ancestry and the book builds to a massive test being rolled out.

    Then its discovered that one of the Nazi High Command’ grandchildren (Heydrich I think) tests positive for one of the markers and the test is scrapped cause obviously its flawed.

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  176. @Jack D
    With friends like that, who needs enemies?

    Look, Trump didn't get where he is today (POTUS, which is no small thing) thanks to those guys, so he doesn't really need them or owe them anything.

    The flip side of that is that they don't owe Trump anything either and so will continue to do whatever they please without considering whether it will help or hurt Trump. As for helping or hurting the American people, they have their own opinions about what is helpful and it is very late in the game for them to change their minds.

    Well they better decide before this cold civil war goes hot.

    “But I’m an intellectual!” isn’t going to get one out of a Deploreable Tribunal.

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  177. @Desiderius

    Trump is a threat to guys like Murray, because he reveals what insignificant little men they are who have no ability to change things for the better.
     
    No, the two types are complimentary, and will succeed or fall depending on the extent to which that is recognized, by both the principals and their various supporters.

    No, the two types are complimentary, and will succeed or fall depending on the extent to which that is recognized, by both the principals and their various supporters.

    A guy like Murray is only complimentary to Trump if he, you know, compliments him…………rather than attacks him. You could sensibly argue that it helps Murray’s cause that he supported Hillary, that it makes his ideas more acceptable, more palatable to the left. But what did his bending of the knee get him? Both him and his ideas are excoriated.

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  178. @SFG
    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/opinion/sunday/a-different-bargain-on-race.html

    (Not (((there))), silly. He works for the NYT.)

    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

    Typical neocon route to nothingness. He goes forward, steps back, goes sideways in one direction, then another, etc. etc.

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  179. @MG
    This is what Dr. Murray wrote about Trump. I have not much sympathy for the likes of Murray.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435805/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-why-hillary-is-even-worse-doesnt-cut-it

    That’s the difference between Murray and Hitler – Hitler had one testicle.

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  180. @NOTA
    How are you different from the guys on the right during the run up to the Iraq war who demanded that everyone on the right must support the war, or be cast out of the conservative movement?

    How are you different from the guys on the right during the run up to the Iraq war who demanded that everyone on the right must support the war, or be cast out of the conservative movement?

    There is a difference between not supporting and actively harming. McCain, Graham, and certain others in the Republican party, are actively trying to undermine the Trump administration.

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  181. @Desiderius

    Looking at Murray’s twitter.com account, one wonders what it takes to get him angry — what is the point of such milquetoast replies?
     
    That's why it's called the Silent Generation. They were children during the worst of the 20th Century. The allergic reaction is most acute in them.

    Murray was born in ’43. He couldn’t remember the bad years, assuming like normal humans he has no memories from before the age of 3 or so. He grew up in the mid- to late 40s/50s, which was only the worst part of the 20th century to idiotic boomers.

    Dubya Bush is a regular boomer, not a borderline case, plus a politician instead of an academic. He famously made a habit of never responding to attacks. That was because he was what I call a squishy-con, not because he shared Silent Generation habits. Murray is a squishy-libertario-con. These people live in a fantasy gentleman’s world and don’t realize they’re in a fight for keeps, is all.

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    There is a qualitative difference between those born 38-43 and those after. The really unique cohort I've found is those born 45-50. They're the America is bullet-proof/made-of-money/destined to save/rule the world types.

    I have memories of learning to walk (15 mos?) and several other specific memories from when I would have been two. Babies also respond and develop according to their emotional environment. That environment was vastly different between 43 and say 46.

    My early memories are locally happy but globally Nam and Watergate, so I'm more skeptical of
    American empire. My guess is that the Helen Reddy/Marlo Thomas/Carole King soundtrack was actually a positive then. They were a hell of a lot healthier than today's feminists.
  182. @Desiderius
    It's not phobia when you really are in danger. Not of his life, but certainly his livelihood and status are in grave danger should Trump succeed.

    I didn’t mean it in the sense of irrational fear, but in the hate, contempt, dislike, intent to repress sense.

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  183. @JohnnyD
    According to the Huffington Post, Steve Bannon is also litteraly Hitler because he made a couple of references to "The Camp of Saints."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-camp-of-the-saints-immigration_us_58b75206e4b0284854b3dc03

    It’d be nice to know if Mr. Bannon actually read that whole novel, Johnny. What you said makes me glad this guy is really aware. I read it, and it is a hell of a book. The translator guy did a great job too, as that couldn’t have been easy (not like it was an action novel, it was a lot about the thoughts and moods of people).

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  184. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Every political regime requires Ideas and the Muscle to immanentize it. Ideological conservatives like Murray have spent the past several decades pretending they didn't need Muscle. That's how I used to think: the cogency, the elegance of my Ideas will carry the day! Not true. No amount of argumentation or even data will convince a Matt Yglesias that all children are not equally educable. No parade of historical, real world-failures will convince the Marxist that the labor theory of value does not describe reality. So if you want a country where you can politely debate Enlightenment concepts like inalienable rights, then you need (1) a territory, and (2) a people with the IQ and time preference to appreciate abstract ideas and a temperamental aversion to violence, and (3) lots of razor wire and machine gun emplacements to keep out all the people who can out-thug, out-breed and out-vote you.

    Murray has the typical ideologue's conceit: he thinks his lofty ideas built America and sustain it. That is only partially true. America was built by a group of ornery Anglo-Celts and defended by two oceans and weak neighbors north and south. Murray, George Will, and all the other cucks who grew up in 88% white America soothingly told everyone that inside every Meso-American was a Republican-voting WASP just waiting to get out. Donald Trump has a much more realistic view of human nature and he is in effect asking the conservative-minded elite just what the hell they've been doing for the past twenty years.

    Trump is like the boss who storms into the shop where everybody's sitting on their ass smoking a cigarette. "What are you doing? Man the stations! Get to work! Conserve! Murray's the grumbling shop steward who can't hack it in the new reality.

    Well said, sir! The trick is balancing the temperamental aversion to violence with the need for the razor wire and machine guns; weapons are nothing without the will to employ them.

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  185. @NOTA
    You need to decide which question you care more about:

    a. Who's side are you on?

    b. Who is right about some question of fact or morality?

    It seems to me that Murray spends a lot of time thinking about question (b) and trying to get the best answers he can, even when they put him on the opposite side of important issues as his team. That's called intellectual integrity, and we need more of it in the world, not less.

    This is the same error the Yglesiases of the world are making--since Trump is on the "other side," all's fair in defeating him. It not only makes Yglesias look like an ass, it also helps justify a kind of World he'd never want to live in--one where who gets to speak is determined by who has he biggest gang of thugs behind him.

    Retaining one’s intellectual integrity/bring critical of Trump and voting for Trump are not mutually exclusive. Unless one lives in ivory tower la-la land.

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  186. @TheBoom
    In the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.

    In the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.

    I thought I was the one who coined that phrase:

    In the future everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes

    Turns out, I wasn’t. It goes back aways, at least to 2005:

    Alternet: In the future everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes

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    I should have put a tm after it. Damnit. Next time I will. They didn't trademark it!
  187. @NOTA
    How are you different from the guys on the right during the run up to the Iraq war who demanded that everyone on the right must support the war, or be cast out of the conservative movement?

    Is this a real question?

    Because invading a foreign country for neocons actually isn’t right wing and neither is proposition nation America.

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  188. @Desiderius

    Trump is a threat to guys like Murray, because he reveals what insignificant little men they are who have no ability to change things for the better.
     
    No, the two types are complimentary, and will succeed or fall depending on the extent to which that is recognized, by both the principals and their various supporters.

    We’ll need Murrays, in the sense that we’ll need ideas and we’ll need to have people to run our universities. (Or what we replace the universities with.) But that’s beside the point.

    Murray is In the Arena. If he wants to be squishy, he can go back to his think tank, write a book, teach some students, or whatever. There’s absolutely no benefit to being In the Arena and acting the way he does, however.

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    Totally agree. My comment was as much a critique of Murray as those who dismiss his importance.
  189. @SFG
    You know, I'm thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as 'scientific racism'.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask 'do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?' The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.

    You know, I’m thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as ‘scientific racism’.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask ‘do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?’ The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.

    SFG, honestly, i don’t see anything to this.

    As other commenters point out, once you’re HBDing, you’re “alt-right”.

    As to convincing folks, the racial physical differences have always been obvious. There’s never been any question there are genetic differences that have evolved, it’s not like you need to wave sickle-cell or cystic fibrosis (or lactose tolerance) around to establish that. (If fact the behavioral differences are pretty obvious to most people as well, it’s just they are less obviously genetic.)

    There isn’t a any sort of serious scientific question here. AFAICT, the official left-Jewish-blank-slate position is “modern humans” came into being 100,000 years ago, with a particular mental toolkit and that’s what we all have. (We’re in one of Gould’s punctuated equilibria–i don’t know what would puncture it if not the neolithic then civilization … but what the heck do it know!) Yeah, there’s been time enough for selection to work for a few minor tweaks for real serious stuff like vitamin D, malaria resistance, even lactose tolerance. But basically we’re all the same–essentially the same people as 100,000 years ago. It’s stupid, but that’s the party line. It’s the party line, because it’s a religious ideology.

    I’ll suggest that if you want to make headway, talking with friends, acquaintances, i’d start by pointing out that selection is always working. Smart people have smarter kids. Dumb people have dumber kids. If smart people are having larger familes … we’re getting smarter. If dumb people are having larger families … we’re getting dumber. Then work back. The neolithic really was a revolution. Settlement, different food, living with animals, sanitation, disease. Lactose tolerance. Malaria\sickle cell. This all *speeded up* evolution* Throw in “10,000 Year Explosion”. And then forward to civilization. “You’re going to tell me that in a civilization with trade, money, writing there isn’t selection–reproductive success for people with–different traits, than uncivilized more backward places?” More evolutionary speed up. You could toss in Chinese imperial exams. The Ashkenazi Jews.

    You might make some modest headway. I believe–could be deluded–that people are quite open to the smart\dumb genetics on the individual basis. And a fair slice have some concerns about dumb people having lots of kids. The Idiocracy issue. Get them to realize the reverse is how we got here.

    But you’ll have lots of resistance to anything involving race. “We’re all just humans”. It’s a religious ideology. And thinking heretical thoughts is not the path to social status, wealth, success.

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    The Idiocracy thing never really took with me, at least from a purely biological perspective. Because culture works within biology but isn't subservient to it. Otherwise, how would civilization and modernization ever happen in the first place? When they first came about, most people had to be too stupid for them. Or just plain weren't selected for adaptability to them.

    Maybe we're even more stupid now, but it shouldn't matter so long as the right people are in charge of culture, and certain biological traits--intelligences, group loyalty, out-group empathy, future-orientation--are maintained at above whatever is the minimum level. That's the question, I guess: what's the minimum level? We ought to be able to maintain our civilization culturally with substandard organisms, so long as our elite weren't shortsighted, corrupt, crazy, and willfully ignorant. But how substandard can we go? I don't know.

    In any case, I saw Idiocracy, got the message, but wasn't finally red-pilled on race for another 8 years at least.

    , @Anon
    Liberals love to quote from "Idiocracy." By this view, it supports a notion that gov't not guided by the latest fashionable progressive nostrums will yield a Hobbesian "redneck" dystopia where "human rights" are deformed by Wonderbread/NASCAR-flavored "capitalism" (cf. also RoboCop, Max Headroom). To liberals the movie is a validation of the great prog mission, i.e. to correct everyone else's behavior in perpetuity. One of the heroines is even a sassy half-black lady. Only the first 5 minutes bear any connection to eugenic concerns, maybe.
  190. So is globalist nobility Murray getting shouted down going to be Arch Noticer Sailer’s distraction while he pretends to not to notice the Obama Admin is looking to be in serious trouble over the fact it wiretapped Trump Tower.

    Two of Steve’s favorite themes (Obama and the Deep State), and not a word on them. Maybe if its found out Obama ordered the 9th hole bugged on one of Trump’s golf courses ( hat trick!) we will get a 10k word essay about the acoustics there due to a sand trap.

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  191. @SPMoore8
    You see, the way you throw out rights like free speech and so on is to characterize your enemy as pure evil. True, your target may not have actually done anything evil, but, keeping in mind the "continuum" theory of everything, if you commit a microagression you are practically shooting someone into a pit, basically, according to the theory (A, B, C, D ~Z). Therefore, anyone who offends your sensibilities is basically Hitler and can be destroyed. It's pretty simple.

    Of course, Murray is not Hitler, not even close, but if his ideas took hold they would ultimately lead to Hitler, so, what's the difference? That's the logic in play here.

    But ten you could take the same logic and turn it around, arguing, in effect, that most people are in fact Hitler, and therefore all of them should be denied free speech and due process. Then it's only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H. Enjoy it, Matt!

    This is basically no different than the pre-modern way of handling your enemies or neighbors you didn't like: just say they are in league with the devil, and watch the show.

    It's really disgraceful that our public discourse has fallen so low.

    Claude Lanzmann (director of Shoah) and the guy who wrote Hitler’s Willing Executioners basically argued that barbers, people walking down the street, and computer punch cards were All Hitler.

    I don’t see it as “the pre-modern way of handling your enemies.” I see it as a structured approach/method very tightly rooted in the stony steppe of the early 20th century propaganda industries (advertising, PR, Hollywood…). These were top-down, hidden source/concealed interest communications methods/technologies.

    This is why it’s so important today to bypass these media, which are their message. “You are Hitler” simply means “I noticed you doing something I can get some measure of Chattering Class power by reviling.” It also implies getting more power by constantly looking for new ante-ups.

    I’d say it’s pretty modern…though its most practiced practitioners do indeed, as you say, bring to it a long history of this sort of justifying-persecution-with-fake-narrative/victimization.

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  192. @NOTA
    How are you different from the guys on the right during the run up to the Iraq war who demanded that everyone on the right must support the war, or be cast out of the conservative movement?

    Because I can point to tangibles: x number of fewer future Democrats crossing the border, x number of thugs kicked out to go be somebody else’s problem, that factory on-shored and hiring x number of American citizens, x number of conservative jurists, etc.

    Also, my intellectual movement accurately read the zeitgeist and got a President elected. What has their intellectual movement done?

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    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
    It's gotten two presidents elected and re-elected. If you include Gingrich it orchestrated one of the most significant restructuring of politics in American history (before Gingrich a lot of people assumed the House was permanently Democratic).

    I'm on your side but this argument isn't very persuasive. Pat B spent most the of Bush administration on MSNBC criticizing him non-stop. The Paleoright made no accommodations and offered no quarter to the neo-cons and Heritage guys. You need to explain why they should act differently- and their resources out of power are far great than the paleos.

    The problem is neither of the two factions really sees any advantage to the other faction exercising power. The areas of overlap for paleos and New American Century types are so insignificant that it makes more sense to try and win without the other faction than compromise.
  193. @Almost Missouri

    "Constantly surprises me what literary incompetence one finds among people who make a living at writing."
     
    Yeah, it's pretty strange, huh? It might have something to do with the fact that the Left's writing is largely substance-free, it's just name-calling and demands that opponents be censored or lose their jobs. Since anyone can do simple tasks like that, the only competition is on who can do it more or in more novel circumstances.

    And there's a little competition to be a novel source. For example, even though Matty Yglesias is just another Jewish guy with an opinion (ho-hum), he has a fashionably Hispanic surname, so he can graduate directly from Harvard (which itself had probably admitted him on the basis of his vowel-rich moniker) into the pages of The Atlantic as their resident child-blogger telling the rubes how to think. Pretty much everything he says is reliably wrong as well as atrociously written, but no matter, the show must go on, preferably with a "diverse" cast. Now, in spite of never having done a real day's work in his life, Yglesias lives in a $1.2 million house. Not too shabby for a guy who can't think his way out of a paper bag.

    tl;dr: The deck is stacked.

    into the pages of The Atlantic as their resident child-blogger telling the rubes how to think.

    But rubes don’t read The Atlantic, MO.

    The readership of most news magazines is aging—and faster than the population overall. The exception, The Atlantic, has the oldest readership of all.

    http://www.journalism.org/numbers/median-age-of-readership-by-magazine/

    That’s MEDIAN age.

    Compare:

    http://www.stateofthemedia.org/2013/news-magazines-embracing-their-digital-future/news-magazines-by-the-numbers/

    Now maybe the magazine is in fact trying to pick up kindern as readers. But I think that Matt Yglesias is their child-blogger because it makes the aulder pharts feel relevant and still-edgy. They aren’t going to apply critical thinking because their role as reader is to remain indulgent progressive parents. In other words the content manipulates them into self-lobotomizing and feeling good about it.

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  194. OT–re Trump/Sweden: the German Foreign Office issued a terror warning for visitors to Sweden in March 2016

    translate.google.com:

    Sweden: travel and safety instructions

    Current information

    Since the beginning of March 2016, Sweden has been experiencing an increased level of terrorist warning.

    Travelers in Stockholm are asked to be prudent in the city as well as in public transport, to avoid larger crowds, and in any case to follow instructions from the Swedish security forces. Especially during religious holidays and at major events such as concerts or festivals, special attention and vigilance are required.

    Due to the current refugee situation Sweden has temporarily introduced border controls again. A valid travel document must be shown before entering ferries to Sweden as well as buses, trains and ferries from Denmark to Sweden (see also section “Entry requirements”). Travelers should expect short-term disabilities in the travel industry and associated waiting times.

    The Foreign Office strongly advises that unknown persons, who may not have a valid identity card or entry visa, should be taken away. This could be prosecuted as a smuggling offense. For details, see General Travel Information.

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  195. @SFG
    You know, I'm thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as 'scientific racism'.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask 'do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?' The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.

    I’ve long thought that a way to get traction for HBD would be to start a meme that all funds should be pulled from any medical research on diseases that inflict only or mainly certain population pools, which is to say racial groups.

    Sickle cell research? Tay Sachs? MS? Malaria? AIDS? FDH (Finnish disease heritage diseases)?

    Kill off all this research and all related programs!

    They disproportionately affect members of particular races…and as such constitute racism and racist research!

    Imagine the Kek!

    http://www.nchpeg.org/nutrition/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=411

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  196. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Because I can point to tangibles: x number of fewer future Democrats crossing the border, x number of thugs kicked out to go be somebody else's problem, that factory on-shored and hiring x number of American citizens, x number of conservative jurists, etc.

    Also, my intellectual movement accurately read the zeitgeist and got a President elected. What has their intellectual movement done?

    It’s gotten two presidents elected and re-elected. If you include Gingrich it orchestrated one of the most significant restructuring of politics in American history (before Gingrich a lot of people assumed the House was permanently Democratic).

    I’m on your side but this argument isn’t very persuasive. Pat B spent most the of Bush administration on MSNBC criticizing him non-stop. The Paleoright made no accommodations and offered no quarter to the neo-cons and Heritage guys. You need to explain why they should act differently- and their resources out of power are far great than the paleos.

    The problem is neither of the two factions really sees any advantage to the other faction exercising power. The areas of overlap for paleos and New American Century types are so insignificant that it makes more sense to try and win without the other faction than compromise.

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    • Replies: @guest
    Who cares if they restructured politics? (Politics here meaning elective, democratic games rather than actual governance). Our system of governance had been set up for nearly a century by that point to make politics irrelevant. And we saw just how irrelevant it was by just how little the '94 "revolution" mattered.
    , @CrunchybutRealistCon

    It’s gotten two presidents elected and re-elected. If you include Gingrich it orchestrated one of the most significant restructuring of politics in American history (before Gingrich a lot of people assumed the House was permanently Democratic).
     
    The weakness in the above should be self-evident. Gingrich in particular was warm to Paleocons in 94 & early '95. He had talked about "federalizing Prop 187" vis toughening stance to illegal immigration. But then he got mau mau'd by Kristol, Kemp, & the WSJ into becoming a servile neocon. Bush1 & 2 got elected not because they were necessarily conservative but because they were seen as the lesser of two evils by the GOP base. Eventually being the lesser of two evils doesn't matter anymore if both establishment candidates have the same Destination Oblivion in mind, only with different arrival times.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    I don't see two conservative factions anymore. I count the ideological conservatives with the gnostic Left at this point. What the ideological conservatives had was demographics, which they threw away in their conceit ("Family values do not stop at the Rio Grande!" "We will not be the party of angry white guys!") Well they can go to hell, and I hope they're first into the cannibal pot.
  197. @AnotherDad

    You know, I’m thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as ‘scientific racism’.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask ‘do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?’ The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.
     

    SFG, honestly, i don't see anything to this.

    As other commenters point out, once you're HBDing, you're "alt-right".

    As to convincing folks, the racial physical differences have always been obvious. There's never been any question there are genetic differences that have evolved, it's not like you need to wave sickle-cell or cystic fibrosis (or lactose tolerance) around to establish that. (If fact the behavioral differences are pretty obvious to most people as well, it's just they are less obviously genetic.)

    There isn't a any sort of serious scientific question here. AFAICT, the official left-Jewish-blank-slate position is "modern humans" came into being 100,000 years ago, with a particular mental toolkit and that's what we all have. (We're in one of Gould's punctuated equilibria--i don't know what would puncture it if not the neolithic then civilization ... but what the heck do it know!) Yeah, there's been time enough for selection to work for a few minor tweaks for real serious stuff like vitamin D, malaria resistance, even lactose tolerance. But basically we're all the same--essentially the same people as 100,000 years ago. It's stupid, but that's the party line. It's the party line, because it's a religious ideology.

    I'll suggest that if you want to make headway, talking with friends, acquaintances, i'd start by pointing out that selection is always working. Smart people have smarter kids. Dumb people have dumber kids. If smart people are having larger familes ... we're getting smarter. If dumb people are having larger families ... we're getting dumber. Then work back. The neolithic really was a revolution. Settlement, different food, living with animals, sanitation, disease. Lactose tolerance. Malaria\sickle cell. This all *speeded up* evolution* Throw in "10,000 Year Explosion". And then forward to civilization. "You're going to tell me that in a civilization with trade, money, writing there isn't selection--reproductive success for people with--different traits, than uncivilized more backward places?" More evolutionary speed up. You could toss in Chinese imperial exams. The Ashkenazi Jews.

    You might make some modest headway. I believe--could be deluded--that people are quite open to the smart\dumb genetics on the individual basis. And a fair slice have some concerns about dumb people having lots of kids. The Idiocracy issue. Get them to realize the reverse is how we got here.

    But you'll have lots of resistance to anything involving race. "We're all just humans". It's a religious ideology. And thinking heretical thoughts is not the path to social status, wealth, success.

    The Idiocracy thing never really took with me, at least from a purely biological perspective. Because culture works within biology but isn’t subservient to it. Otherwise, how would civilization and modernization ever happen in the first place? When they first came about, most people had to be too stupid for them. Or just plain weren’t selected for adaptability to them.

    Maybe we’re even more stupid now, but it shouldn’t matter so long as the right people are in charge of culture, and certain biological traits–intelligences, group loyalty, out-group empathy, future-orientation–are maintained at above whatever is the minimum level. That’s the question, I guess: what’s the minimum level? We ought to be able to maintain our civilization culturally with substandard organisms, so long as our elite weren’t shortsighted, corrupt, crazy, and willfully ignorant. But how substandard can we go? I don’t know.

    In any case, I saw Idiocracy, got the message, but wasn’t finally red-pilled on race for another 8 years at least.

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  198. @Sam Haysom
    It's gotten two presidents elected and re-elected. If you include Gingrich it orchestrated one of the most significant restructuring of politics in American history (before Gingrich a lot of people assumed the House was permanently Democratic).

    I'm on your side but this argument isn't very persuasive. Pat B spent most the of Bush administration on MSNBC criticizing him non-stop. The Paleoright made no accommodations and offered no quarter to the neo-cons and Heritage guys. You need to explain why they should act differently- and their resources out of power are far great than the paleos.

    The problem is neither of the two factions really sees any advantage to the other faction exercising power. The areas of overlap for paleos and New American Century types are so insignificant that it makes more sense to try and win without the other faction than compromise.

    Who cares if they restructured politics? (Politics here meaning elective, democratic games rather than actual governance). Our system of governance had been set up for nearly a century by that point to make politics irrelevant. And we saw just how irrelevant it was by just how little the ’94 “revolution” mattered.

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    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
    Honestly get bent. Clearly the comment I was responding to identified electing a president as an accomplishment. I'm sorry you don't agree with his frame of reference take it up with him.
  199. The areas of overlap for paleos and New American Century types are so insignificant

    I don’t even see insignificant overlaps, I see them as complete polar opposites. The one is both invite and invade the world and other is not to both. The one side is socially liberal and wants to spread this to entire world and the other side is socially conservative and does not want to attack everyone in the world.

    This is also why liberals like the neocons, they provide this fake political opposition for them that offers them zero resistance, they may utter the few anti war protests sometimes but they are really ideologically similar.

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    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
    I think both would agree with strong policing measures, support conservative Supreme Court justices, and at the margins agree that taxes should be kept low.
  200. @SFG
    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/opinion/sunday/a-different-bargain-on-race.html

    (Not (((there))), silly. He works for the NYT.)

    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There…He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

    Well, I personally find this suggestion rather distasteful, but I suppose a case could be made for paying reparations to the current descendants of American slaves…

    On the other hand, based on similar reasoning, the reparations funds themselves should obviously be obtained from the current descendants of the American slave-owners. After all, it’s silly to charge Asians, Hispanics, latter white immigrants, or pre-1865 Northerners for the misbehavior of Southern whites. And indeed only a fraction of Southern whites ever owned slaves.

    Ironically enough, I’d bet that the current American group with by far the largest fraction of white slave-owner ancestry would be…lighter-skinned American blacks!

    So, presumably, the correct way to implement this sensible proposal would be to confiscate pretty much the entire accumulated wealth of all the lighter-skinned American blacks and distribute it to the darker-skinned American blacks…

    From the hints I’ve seen here and there, such an approach would provoke an enormously enthusiastic reaction from the darker-skinned American blacks…

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    • Agree: reiner Tor, JohnnyGeo
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Ron, the one agree button per hour is not nearly enough... I'd need three extra right now: one for the gentleman commenting after you (AnotherDad, March 5, 2017 at 9:04 pm GMT), and two for your comment (both an agree and a lol vote).

    Okay, I'll come back later.
    , @Charles Pewitt
    Blacks do not control the corporate propaganda apparatus.

    Blacks do not run the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.

    Black billionaires do not use mass immigration as a weapon to attack the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    Blacks do not use their ill-gotten power to deprive Asians and European Christian Americans of their rightful spots at Ivy League universities. Ivy League universities that were founded primarily by British Protestants.
  201. @SFG
    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/opinion/sunday/a-different-bargain-on-race.html

    (Not (((there))), silly. He works for the NYT.)

    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?

    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There:

    It’s not quite his bailiwick–no golf angle–but Steve should just post if all you guys really want to go to town on this.

    My two cents on all issues of “reparations”:

    Currently living American blacks are not *victim* of slavery … they are far and away its greatest beneficiaries.

    Furthermore, this is obvious. I–along with everyone else–wouldn’t actually exist without all the history that unfolded before my conception. However, the alternative reality “AnotherDad” whose ancestors never immigrated to America lives … ah … more or less the same, just a bit less well than the American version. (GDP per capita of Ireland, England, Germany is a bit lower than the US.) In contrast, the alternative reality African-American, whose ancestors were never enslaved and brought to America lives a pretty miserable existence (by contemporary standards)–GDP per capita 1/20 (Nigeria with oil money) to 1/100 (Sierra Leone, Guinea, Togo, etc. without). Even PPP generously, black African living standards are an order of magnitude less than black American living standards.

    Basically African-Americans have–through no effort of their own–gotten this enormous benefit of living in a white developed, white run country which in quality of life and prosperity is literally an order of magnitude above anything blacks can create themselves. This white generated prosperity is something that people around the world struggle to get, but which they get for free due to the enslavement of their ancestors. They should appreciate what their ancestors’ suffering has done for them, and realize how lucky they are.

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  202. @SPMoore8
    You see, the way you throw out rights like free speech and so on is to characterize your enemy as pure evil. True, your target may not have actually done anything evil, but, keeping in mind the "continuum" theory of everything, if you commit a microagression you are practically shooting someone into a pit, basically, according to the theory (A, B, C, D ~Z). Therefore, anyone who offends your sensibilities is basically Hitler and can be destroyed. It's pretty simple.

    Of course, Murray is not Hitler, not even close, but if his ideas took hold they would ultimately lead to Hitler, so, what's the difference? That's the logic in play here.

    But ten you could take the same logic and turn it around, arguing, in effect, that most people are in fact Hitler, and therefore all of them should be denied free speech and due process. Then it's only a matter of time until Matt Yglesias is daubed with the Scarlet H. Enjoy it, Matt!

    This is basically no different than the pre-modern way of handling your enemies or neighbors you didn't like: just say they are in league with the devil, and watch the show.

    It's really disgraceful that our public discourse has fallen so low.

    In the 70′s sometime, after the release of Sociobiology: The New Synthesis, EO Wilson was assaulted at a lecture to the chant of “Racist Wilson you can’t hide, we charge you with genocide.” Perfect example of the point you’re making.

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  203. @Ron Unz

    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There...He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?
     
    Well, I personally find this suggestion rather distasteful, but I suppose a case could be made for paying reparations to the current descendants of American slaves...

    On the other hand, based on similar reasoning, the reparations funds themselves should obviously be obtained from the current descendants of the American slave-owners. After all, it's silly to charge Asians, Hispanics, latter white immigrants, or pre-1865 Northerners for the misbehavior of Southern whites. And indeed only a fraction of Southern whites ever owned slaves.

    Ironically enough, I'd bet that the current American group with by far the largest fraction of white slave-owner ancestry would be...lighter-skinned American blacks!

    So, presumably, the correct way to implement this sensible proposal would be to confiscate pretty much the entire accumulated wealth of all the lighter-skinned American blacks and distribute it to the darker-skinned American blacks...

    From the hints I've seen here and there, such an approach would provoke an enormously enthusiastic reaction from the darker-skinned American blacks...

    Ron, the one agree button per hour is not nearly enough… I’d need three extra right now: one for the gentleman commenting after you (AnotherDad, March 5, 2017 at 9:04 pm GMT), and two for your comment (both an agree and a lol vote).

    Okay, I’ll come back later.

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  204. @Sam Haysom
    It's gotten two presidents elected and re-elected. If you include Gingrich it orchestrated one of the most significant restructuring of politics in American history (before Gingrich a lot of people assumed the House was permanently Democratic).

    I'm on your side but this argument isn't very persuasive. Pat B spent most the of Bush administration on MSNBC criticizing him non-stop. The Paleoright made no accommodations and offered no quarter to the neo-cons and Heritage guys. You need to explain why they should act differently- and their resources out of power are far great than the paleos.

    The problem is neither of the two factions really sees any advantage to the other faction exercising power. The areas of overlap for paleos and New American Century types are so insignificant that it makes more sense to try and win without the other faction than compromise.

    It’s gotten two presidents elected and re-elected. If you include Gingrich it orchestrated one of the most significant restructuring of politics in American history (before Gingrich a lot of people assumed the House was permanently Democratic).

    The weakness in the above should be self-evident. Gingrich in particular was warm to Paleocons in 94 & early ’95. He had talked about “federalizing Prop 187″ vis toughening stance to illegal immigration. But then he got mau mau’d by Kristol, Kemp, & the WSJ into becoming a servile neocon. Bush1 & 2 got elected not because they were necessarily conservative but because they were seen as the lesser of two evils by the GOP base. Eventually being the lesser of two evils doesn’t matter anymore if both establishment candidates have the same Destination Oblivion in mind, only with different arrival times.

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    Gringrich does with what is popular at the time even without Newt, the republicans might have done even better since he has the Grover Norquist baggage of no new taxing. David Stockman has written about this in his books. Eisenhower and Truman which were to the left of Reagan did more for us cutting down on immigration that Newt or Reagan did. The Republicans came up in the 1990's because the population had shifted from the Northeast to the south so much that by 1995 it was the largest population region. So, the GOP would have probably did better without Newt.
    , @Sam Haysom
    I wasn't claiming that Gingrich or Bush II was some big win for the kind of conservatism I support (that said I think Gingrich tried his best and got worn down and demoralized and lost the fire that made him such a dynamo).

    I was just pointing that per Anti-G that GOP inc. has won election too- that's not a uniquely Trumpian accomplishment.
  205. There needs to be a protest organized consisting of MMA fighters and ex navy seals against anarchism in Berkeley.
    To make it interesting everyone should wear a Hitler mustache.

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  206. @Ron Unz

    OT, but Ross Douthat Went There...He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only. Is everyone from the NYT going to keep stealing from you?
     
    Well, I personally find this suggestion rather distasteful, but I suppose a case could be made for paying reparations to the current descendants of American slaves...

    On the other hand, based on similar reasoning, the reparations funds themselves should obviously be obtained from the current descendants of the American slave-owners. After all, it's silly to charge Asians, Hispanics, latter white immigrants, or pre-1865 Northerners for the misbehavior of Southern whites. And indeed only a fraction of Southern whites ever owned slaves.

    Ironically enough, I'd bet that the current American group with by far the largest fraction of white slave-owner ancestry would be...lighter-skinned American blacks!

    So, presumably, the correct way to implement this sensible proposal would be to confiscate pretty much the entire accumulated wealth of all the lighter-skinned American blacks and distribute it to the darker-skinned American blacks...

    From the hints I've seen here and there, such an approach would provoke an enormously enthusiastic reaction from the darker-skinned American blacks...

    Blacks do not control the corporate propaganda apparatus.

    Blacks do not run the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.

    Black billionaires do not use mass immigration as a weapon to attack the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    Blacks do not use their ill-gotten power to deprive Asians and European Christian Americans of their rightful spots at Ivy League universities. Ivy League universities that were founded primarily by British Protestants.

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    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    Well said.

    Was there ever a dumber idea than SBPDL calling our country "Black Run America"?

    , @reiner Tor
    How is that a reply to Ron's points?
    , @Jack D
    Apparently anti-Semitism scrambles your brain. Blacks are the main beneficiaries of Affirmative Action. "Rightful"and "ill-gotten" are , like the Democrats favorite word , "fair", not really subject to objective measurement . "We wuz robbed" is the cry of the luzer. The excuses of luzerhood are no more appealing on whites than they are on blacks. You want the Ivy League "back" - Molon labe!
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    Blacks do not use their ill-gotten power to deprive Asians and European Christian Americans of their rightful spots at Ivy League universities.

    I haven't noticed a lack of Asians at Ivy League universities. And careful what you wish for, if those schools admitted on a pure meritocratic basis, the number of European Christian Americans would drop precipitously (well, they would still need people to play hockey and football, but other than that...)
  207. @neutral

    The areas of overlap for paleos and New American Century types are so insignificant
     
    I don't even see insignificant overlaps, I see them as complete polar opposites. The one is both invite and invade the world and other is not to both. The one side is socially liberal and wants to spread this to entire world and the other side is socially conservative and does not want to attack everyone in the world.

    This is also why liberals like the neocons, they provide this fake political opposition for them that offers them zero resistance, they may utter the few anti war protests sometimes but they are really ideologically similar.

    I think both would agree with strong policing measures, support conservative Supreme Court justices, and at the margins agree that taxes should be kept low.

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  208. @Sam Haysom
    It's gotten two presidents elected and re-elected. If you include Gingrich it orchestrated one of the most significant restructuring of politics in American history (before Gingrich a lot of people assumed the House was permanently Democratic).

    I'm on your side but this argument isn't very persuasive. Pat B spent most the of Bush administration on MSNBC criticizing him non-stop. The Paleoright made no accommodations and offered no quarter to the neo-cons and Heritage guys. You need to explain why they should act differently- and their resources out of power are far great than the paleos.

    The problem is neither of the two factions really sees any advantage to the other faction exercising power. The areas of overlap for paleos and New American Century types are so insignificant that it makes more sense to try and win without the other faction than compromise.

    I don’t see two conservative factions anymore. I count the ideological conservatives with the gnostic Left at this point. What the ideological conservatives had was demographics, which they threw away in their conceit (“Family values do not stop at the Rio Grande!” “We will not be the party of angry white guys!”) Well they can go to hell, and I hope they’re first into the cannibal pot.

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  209. @Charles Pewitt
    Blacks do not control the corporate propaganda apparatus.

    Blacks do not run the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.

    Black billionaires do not use mass immigration as a weapon to attack the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    Blacks do not use their ill-gotten power to deprive Asians and European Christian Americans of their rightful spots at Ivy League universities. Ivy League universities that were founded primarily by British Protestants.

    Well said.

    Was there ever a dumber idea than SBPDL calling our country “Black Run America”?

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    • Replies: @guest
    Well, we did have a half-blood president recently, plus Valerie Jarrett and Eric Holder. It's less plausible now.
    , @Clyde

    Was there ever a dumber idea than SBPDL calling our country “Black Run America”?
     
    With 95% of Blacks voting for Hussein with record new registrations and turnouts for black voters. With his permanently black run Justice Department? You are the dumb one. Oblivious. With Val, Hussein, Holder it was vengeful Mochas + Black run America. That experiment is done, thank God!
    Vengeful Mochas nursing a lifetime time of real and imagined slights and grievances. Sickening psychological dynamics simmering below the calm, cool, collected surface.
  210. @Charles Pewitt
    Blacks do not control the corporate propaganda apparatus.

    Blacks do not run the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.

    Black billionaires do not use mass immigration as a weapon to attack the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    Blacks do not use their ill-gotten power to deprive Asians and European Christian Americans of their rightful spots at Ivy League universities. Ivy League universities that were founded primarily by British Protestants.

    How is that a reply to Ron’s points?

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  211. @Anonymous
    Towards the end of that article, there is a suggestion that "racists" are akin to "creationists". This literally the second time TODAY that I've seen this claim online, which I've never seen before. Is this some new trope, an attempt at inversion? Many of us badthinkers know what "liberal creationism" is. Are the leftists trying to emulate Trump's brilliant owning of the "fake news" trope?

    It’s 100% projection.

    Blank slate ideology is pure creationism.

    The idea that nature has selected for the exact same cognitive and emotional traits in all populations since the MRCA of all humans lived is insane.

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  212. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    All this ‘nazi’ and ‘fascist’ talk is so tiresome.

    I am the only true fascist, and it’s getting so stupid for every side to accuse the other side of being ‘fascist’.

    The fact is WE ARE ALL FASCISTS, but since I’m the only one who is honest about it, I’m the only true fascist.

    There are many different meanings to fascism.

    But as it is used today, it means the ‘gangsterism of power’. So, it is a theoretics of power. So, when someone says “You’re fascist”, it means “You’re Machiavellian(at least in part).”

    To that, I say “NO SHI*.”

    It’s like the conversation between Michael and Kay:

    https://youtu.be/q2pRzyIPkfY?t=1m14s

    It’s like the conversation between Michael and Geary:

    https://youtu.be/1xLEBtyar6M?t=2m17s

    If ‘fascism’ means gangsterism, machiavellianism, use of brute force, conspiracy, shadowy use of power, and being above and below the law, then WE ARE ALL FASCISTS.

    And this has been the case for all societies whether they called themselves monarchic, democratic, socialist, communist, Islamist, nationalist, globalist, anarchist, theocratic, and yes, fascist. Go down the list of what they did and they all qualify as ‘fascist’. Going by current definition of ‘fascism’, Paul Craig Roberts and Chris Hedges could agree that US is ‘fascist’. But go down the list of what any nation did, and it’d be ‘fascist’ too. It’s like Andrew Roberts calls Communism ‘red fascism’, and Susan Sontag called Soviet Union’s brand of communism ‘fascism with a human face’. But one could just as easily say the US or Israel is ‘democratic fascist’ or ‘dollar fascist’ given all the ‘dirty’ and ‘bloody’ and ‘repressive’ things they have done.
    Of course, during the Vietnam War, Sontag was more or less suggesting American system is something like Fascism with Human Rights.

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=25427

    http://www.nytimes.com/books/00/03/12/specials/sontag-communism.html

    Now, some nations are most trust-oriented and rule-bound than others or less ‘fascist’, but ironically, those nations tend to be founded on fascist principles that favor homogeneity, unity, and nationalism. Even though Sweden was never ideologically fascist, its demographics and culture of discipline/trust were more aligned with fascist ideals or ideals that appeal to fascists. As Sweden moves away from those conditions and becomes more diverse, it is ironically becoming more ‘fascist’ as the Swedish state & media have to use more underhanded tactics to maintain the narrative and power. And Swedish citizens have to resort to more extra-legal and secretive methods to ensure their security and well-being. Since saying the wrong thing can get them fired or even jailed, they say one thing and do another. Thus, they become more Machiavellian or ‘fascist’.
    That is the Fascist Paradox. A society that adheres to Fascist Ideals of nationalism, homogeneity, border security, and unity will be less ‘fascist’-pragmatic(or Machiavellian).
    There will be more culture of trust and Rule of Law.
    But as a society loses its Ideal Fascist Conditions and becomes more diverse and open(in the name of anti-fascism), the power becomes more ‘fascist’ in the Machiavellian sense since there is less trust, less shared values, and less adherence to Rule of Law(as various ethnic groups try to bend the law to their advantage, like Jews with saving Soviet Jews and Mexican-Americans with favoring illegal Mexicans) and with blacks pushing for black interests. So, American Politics is looking more and more like THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY. As there is less social trust, power comes only with the Game.
    Trump’s Civic Nationalism may be more fascist as an ideal, but if successful, it will make Americans less ‘fascist’ in the Machiavellian sense. It will favor more Rule of Law and National Trust. But if Nationalism is undermined in the US in the name of anti-fascism, the resulting globalist open borders and diversity will lead to more distrust and infighting among groups, which will make everything more ‘machiavellian’ or ‘fascist’. We see this in California. As the most ‘progressive’ state, it is supposed to be most Anti-fascist. But the power politics has become totally cynical, tribal, machiavellian, and ‘fascist’.

    So, we are all ‘fascists’. But no one wants to admit it. Every side, to have any power in the new messy order, resorts to dirty tricks and underhanded measures, but it always accuses the OTHER side of ‘fascism’, as if only the other side is doing it when all sides are doing it.
    It’s like all sides hate but every side accuses the other side of ‘hate’. If Victorianism was about sexual repression, today it’s about power repression. Every side that wants the power pretends it’s all about highfalutin principles while accusing the other side of naked power grab(or ‘fascism’).

    Foreign Policy is most ‘fascist’ since foreign affairs are run totally by Machiavellian methods, and this goes for all nations. While culture of trust is possible within a nation(especially homogeneous one), it’s not possible in a diverse world of many nations. Despite all the bogus stated humanitarian principles, the only rule that still matters in world affairs is ‘enemy of your enemy is your friend’, which is why there are so many nutty alliances all over the world.

    This is why I find people like Kissinger less loathsome than those like Samantha Powers and Albright. Kissinger was a gangster, and he got blood on his hands, but he knew the nature of the game he was playing. I mean you can’t be consiglieri with clean hands. He didn’t pretend to be Mr. Good Guy.
    But we now hear all this bogus talk from diplomats about ‘human rights’, and it’s all BS. They pull every dirty trick in the book in Latin America, Middle East, Europe, and Asia but act like it’s all about promoting democracy. Things were more honest during Cold War. Back then, there were few democracies outside the West, and it was US vs USSR, and both sides knew it was a dirty game. But once communism ended and democracy spread all over, ‘human rights’ can always be invoked to justify anything. So, even though US acts like a gangster, it projects all its dirtiness on someone like Putin. Yes, Putin is a KILLER and THUG. But Americans are.. what? Saints and do-gooders?

    US is especially gangsterist since its ruling elites, largely Jewish, loathe and despise so much of the gentile population who won’t put up with globalism — worldwide gangsterism of Wall Street, Pentagon, and Hollywood — anymore. Jews are very keen about the true nature of power. They invoke principles, but it’s all a card trick. The problem is we live in an amnesiac world due to PC and Pop Culture. A lot of young people who’ve been made to freak out about Russia have no idea about all the horror stories about the Red Scare that used to be part of Liberal/Leftist narrative. And today’s young Progs seem unaware of what the Free Speech movement championed in the 60s. Amnesia means no larger context, no references. The amnesiac are easy to manipulate. The guy is manipulated so easily in MEMENTO because he can’t store new info into long-term memory.
    In FAHRENHEIT 451, Montag cannot imagine a past when houses were not fireproof.

    https://youtu.be/bqW1yyCiiSg?t=20s

    By the current definition of ‘fascist’, which nation is NOT fascist?
    Russia is ruled by autocratic government that uses a heavy hand. It even carries out assassinations.
    China is ruled by autocratic government that will clamp down on anyone. And there are all sorts of collusion happening at all layers of society.
    Japan has essentially been a one-party state forever, and there’s been close ties among government, organized crime, and far-right extremists.
    Turkey is Erdogan’s private gangster state where law has been suspended many times even under democracy. (Secular Turkish military regimes also did ‘fascist’ things.)
    Israel is ruled by Zionist militants and sharks who will stop at nothing. They will even use terrorism against Iranian scientists.
    Cuba has been a police state under Castros.
    Latin American nations used all sorts of ‘dirty war’ tactics to suppress dissent.
    Iran is a theocratic thug state where the regime does all sorts of nasty stuff to keep the power.
    EU is has become a repressive system of mind-control and surveillance. EU officials take orders from globalist oligarch gangstesr like Soros and Rothchilds.
    Mexico? Watch THE COUNSELOR. It is a narco-gangster state with veneer of liberal democracy.
    The US is ruled by oligarchs, deep state, globo cabal that control the media. And US will use all sorts of extralegal methods to destroy people, invade nations, starve 100,000′s via sanctions, and etc.

    So, they are all ‘fascist’ . As things stand, ANY nation can accuse ANY OTHER of being ‘fascist’ since every nation bends the rules, does underhanded things, and uses violence & brutality to get what it wants regardless of international law. In the end, the power decides, not the principle or the law. UN says one thing about West Bank but does nothing about it cuz the Power is on the side of Zionists. UN says Israel is illegally occupying Golan Heights, but Israel still keeps it and nothing is done about it.
    GOOD WAR narrative says evil Germany and Japan justifiably got smashed for their war crimes, but US gets away with every war crime since end of Cold War. By GOOD WAR logic, the US should have been dresden-ed and hiroshima-ed several times over for its unprovoked wars and invasions in the Middle East.
    But the power, not the principle, decides, and that means we are living in a ‘fascist’ world.

    We are all ‘fascists’.

    But there is always the power of semantics where one can pretend one’s dirty deeds are not ‘fascist’ and applies only to the other side. It is ‘fascist’ only when the OTHER guy does it.
    Or, one’s dirty deeds are justified because they are used against the OTHER guy who is the ‘real fascist’. So, ‘fascist’ deeds against ‘fascists’ are not ‘fascist’. It’s like ‘punching nazis’ isn’t nazi-like behavior even though ‘nazism’ is defined as thuggish use of power.
    It’s like burning witches isn’t witch-like behavior since it burns witches.

    It’s about time that the world is now governed by one rule. End of History is a Gangster Paradise. We are all ‘fascists’ now, and it is time we admit it. Every side does ‘fascist’ things and justifies it in the name of fighting ‘fascism’ of the other side.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTf-0G9uB_o

    Things were both more gangster-like and less gangster-like during The Cold War. Because the stakes were so high in the conflict between super-powers, both US and USSR pulled every dirty trick in the book for the upperhand. Result was mess in Vietnam and Afghanistan. USSR supported vile movements, the US supported vile regimes(with death squads). BUT, it was also an ideological struggle of two vision of Justice. So, the US and USSR had to make the case its own vision was more just. Those were ideological times, and people took ideas seriously. Plenty of Western intellectual were sincere Marxists, and many in the Third World emerging from imperialism tended to associate capitalism with imperialism and communism with liberation. (Also, the world was more socially conservative back then(at least by later libertine standards), so shame was a bigger aspect of human behavior. Since it was considered gauche and tasteless to act like a shameless pig, people stuck to ideals, moral values, spirituality, and idealism. But once rap culture, thug culture, and greed culture became open expressions in a shameless society of ‘girls gone wild’ and ‘greed is good’ and ‘gansta paradise’ and ‘tattoo and piercing’ and MTV-ed world, human nature was less prone to repress animal drives in favor of higher ideas or principles. Wallowing in piggery of greed, lust, and ego became the ‘highest’ principle.)

    But once the Cold War ended, communism died as an ideology. And someone like Fukuyama was optimistic, seeing the future as triumph of rule of law and liberal democracy. The problem is Rule of Law and Liberal Democracy are generic ideas and prescriptions. They are not about the Power of Ego and Ethno. In a free society, there is going to be two kinds of power: individual and tribal. Ultra-ambitious individuals will become like Gordon Gekkos, Sheldon Adelson, or Bill Gates. And some tribes will be more driven, ambitious, and talented than others. There have been new ideologies since End of Cold War but fuzzy, vague, confused, or ludicrous ones like ‘gay agenda’ or 50 gender stuff. Such fractured identity agendas don’t serve a broad movement. With homos being only 2% of the population, mass support of the ‘gay agenda’ means majority serving the minority, even tinny winny population of trannies. It just becomes a worship of homo vanity and decadence. So, the real power ends up being either individualistic(Bill Gates) or tribal(AIPAC), or both, as in the case of George Soros who is for individual power in service of some globalist cabal. Soros, though Jewish, seems to believe in a power beyond Jewishness. He is willing to sacrifice even Israel to serve the greater power of Globalist Elites. He lives in his own cloud empire world.

    Because the End of the Cold War(and so-called End of History) was supposed to have brought an end to the final global struggle of Grand Ideas, it was supposed to herald a new age whereupon the entire world could be more relaxed, more peaceful, and more cooperative.
    But the new era of globalism meant an individualistic and/or tribal scrambling for control of the world without restraint or obstacle(since there was no other great power or grand ideology to hold back The Power of America.) The most horrific results was Russia in 90s(total gangster paradise) and Middle East(hell on earth approaching World War levels of destruction). China did better because, even as it joined the globalist system, it maintained its independence and sovereignty from it. It used globalism but didn’t fall under its control. Russia that fell under its control went to hell in the 90s. It’s been wresting itself out of the system, and that gives it leeway. Because of its nuclear weapons, sizable military, and land mass, it it still one of the few nations that can defy US globalism, and as such, serves as an example. And that is why globalists hate it. Even if Russia was shut off to the world via sanctions, it has enough natural resources to survive. But if Russia were the size of Italy and had limited resources, it would have to fall in line like EU nations and Japan.

    Gangster Politics is so intense now because (1) Jewish anxiety of power (2) Jews have gone for huge stakes. If ‘fascism’ is brutal and naked struggle for power, the world is more ‘fascist’ than ever since the past grand themes are all gone. It’s really just about power of individuals and tribes. Of course, there are bottomfeeding suckers like antifa that still think its ‘ideals’ stand for something, but they are moron minions of Soros and the like.

    If Jews had gone for wealth and moderate power, things might not have gotten so heated up. But they are a very competitive and domineering people. They are addicted to the game and power like characters in David Mamet films. So, they aren’t satisfied with Enough. They must have more and more, they must have it all. But hogging the role of the Greatest Power in a world in which they are but small minorities in most nations means they are filled with anxiety, neurosis, and frustration. So, in order to keep the momentum going, they must panic the world with something of GREAT URGENCY to keep the globo-train lurching forward. We must be rushed onward and onward like the people waiting for the plane in AIRPLANE! If we were allowed to slow down and contemplate what’s going on, we might realize what’s really happening. So, it’s always New Panic followed by New Panic followed by New Panic and more Crises. IRAN AND NUKES!!! GADDAFI IS NEW HITLER!!! ASSAD IS BEAST!!! PUTIN IS HITLER!!! TRUMP IS RUSSIAN AGENT!!! HATE CRIMES!!! NAZI RAPE SQUADS IN COLLEGES!!! WHITE COPS ARE KILLING INNOCENT BLACKS!!! All the hysteria in the media makes us feel like we are in parody of a disaster movie.

    https://youtu.be/l2iIq3zaP6k?t=6m8s

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    2,686 words...you could give Corvettius or Corvino or whatever a run for his money
  213. “But … isn’t being a Clash fan a symptom of … Implicit White Identity?”

    I have never met a Vibrantly Diverse person who is a fan of The Clash. Whenever I wear my Clash t-shirt the only people in public who compliment me on it are Whites. And that says a lot because I live in a city where Nonwhites are 60 percent of the population.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Indeed.

    Strummer, like Kipling and Orwell, was an offshoot of the British Empire, and a big, secret part of his appeal was to people who like the romanticism of exploring and conquering the British Empire. It's not a coincidence that Ridley Scott had him sing the song from "The Man Who Would Be King" over the closing credits of "Black Hawk Down."

    , @anon
    The problem with the left is they were willing to make the US poor by making the third world rich. The problem with this is they are enable for keeping the rich in power in India, Mexico and China and other third world countries. Bernie Sanders could have supported a minimum wage for US and European companies in places like Mexico where they have to pay at least 4 an hour. This would have reduce immigration to the USA since Mexico's purchasing power would have gone up and more service jobs would have been created at home slowing down immigration to the US to a South Korea level. Carlos Slim thanks the US Democratic Party for keeping the rich in Mexico from paying more taxes.
  214. @Steve Sailer
    Wasn't that popular with Desert Storm troops in 1991?

    I think that part of my yesterday’s reply (that sadly enough never get posted ) to Sailer’s rhetorical question on Desert Storm/ Rock the Casbah connection, quoted from Rachid Taha interview where this Algerian-French Punker compared his ultra-religious Muslim parents to Presley’s mom and pop…

    Well, guess what?

    They finally found Elvis :

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4281700/Prosecutors-NY-man-aimed-fight-Islamic-extremists.html

    Stephen Miller should use this latest ghost-busting development as a vignette in Trump’s next National TV speech appearance.

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  215. @Clyde
    He even stole your idea of reparations for black slave descendants only.

    The right must respond that the only fair form of reparations will be based on the recipients percentage of American slave blood. So full bloods will get eight times more Reps than one eighth bloods. This will keep the reparations big mouths bickering forever.

    And if you are an American black whose only slave blood comes from a Jamaican or Haitian slave ancestor, you are shyte out of luck. This will add to the infighting/

    “The right must respond that the only fair form of reparations will be based on the recipients percentage of American slave blood. So full bloods will get eight times more Reps than one eighth bloods. This will keep the reparations big mouths bickering forever.”

    Benjamin Jealous should get crumbs when it comes to reparations money because he is genetically 80 percent European, which is way way higher than the Black American average of only 20 percent European.

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  216. @Jefferson
    "But … isn’t being a Clash fan a symptom of … Implicit White Identity?"

    I have never met a Vibrantly Diverse person who is a fan of The Clash. Whenever I wear my Clash t-shirt the only people in public who compliment me on it are Whites. And that says a lot because I live in a city where Nonwhites are 60 percent of the population.

    Indeed.

    Strummer, like Kipling and Orwell, was an offshoot of the British Empire, and a big, secret part of his appeal was to people who like the romanticism of exploring and conquering the British Empire. It’s not a coincidence that Ridley Scott had him sing the song from “The Man Who Would Be King” over the closing credits of “Black Hawk Down.”

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    "Indeed.

    Strummer, like Kipling and Orwell, was an offshoot of the British Empire, and a big, secret part of his appeal was to people who like the romanticism of exploring and conquering the British Empire. It’s not a coincidence that Ridley Scott had him sing the song from “The Man Who Would Be King” over the closing credits of “Black Hawk Down.”

    Does any White music artist who doesn't do r&b or rap music have a large Black or Nonwhite in general fanbase?

    , @Desiderius

    a big, secret part of his appeal was to people who like the romanticism of exploring and conquering the British Empire
     
    And there are a lot more people in that category than just whites.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXYuPMsThYs
  217. @Steve Sailer
    Indeed.

    Strummer, like Kipling and Orwell, was an offshoot of the British Empire, and a big, secret part of his appeal was to people who like the romanticism of exploring and conquering the British Empire. It's not a coincidence that Ridley Scott had him sing the song from "The Man Who Would Be King" over the closing credits of "Black Hawk Down."

    “Indeed.

    Strummer, like Kipling and Orwell, was an offshoot of the British Empire, and a big, secret part of his appeal was to people who like the romanticism of exploring and conquering the British Empire. It’s not a coincidence that Ridley Scott had him sing the song from “The Man Who Would Be King” over the closing credits of “Black Hawk Down.”

    Does any White music artist who doesn’t do r&b or rap music have a large Black or Nonwhite in general fanbase?

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  218. Fat, drunk, and clickbait-addled is no way to go through life, son. Folks who over-Hitlerize the “national conversation” are not trying to score points any more– we’re about 20 years removed from that being an even modestly effective technique. If you rant about KKK and Nat’l Socialism a bunch on your online dating profile it is like disclosing a preference for Middle Eastern food or Joy Division, it’s meant to preclude contact from undesirables, a talismanic anti-clinger scarecrow. We are witnessing some frustration from the M.O.R. liberals who are getting audio-visually molested by crimethink many times per day, and hence the otherwise unwatchable Colbert’s ratings go up. They don’t truly wish to convert the hillbillies, they just want the bad man to go away. This is distinct in a way from the media behavior which shrieks at Breitbart hoi polloi as a means of enhancing Beltway power/status in the ancient Woodward-Bernstein tradition. Differing approaches, neither of which seems to be functioning as well lately, compared to the edge of living memory (80s/90s)

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  219. @Steve Sailer
    Joe's dad was born in Lucknow, India, where Kipling's Kim went to school.

    His dad was also 1/4 German Jewish and 1/4 Armenian* per Wikipedia.

    *By way of the Armenian merchant community in India that was absorbed by the British during the Raj, IIRC (just like Vivien Leigh).

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  220. @Anonymous
    I can't really work up much sympathy for Murray over his 'Two Minutes Hate' recently. He was doing his own status signalling a few months ago against Trump before the election, despite knowing the score.

    Shows what truly matters to him: not the country, not the people, not even the pursuit of fairness, intellectual honesty, etc... no, its being able to rub elbows with the NYT crowd without sneers. And in the end, they do it to him anyway.

    Shows what truly matters to him

    I’d say what matters most to him is his son – a deep state lefty who nonetheless came to his dad’s defense on twitter.

    I can’t fault him for that.

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  221. @Steve Sailer
    Indeed.

    Strummer, like Kipling and Orwell, was an offshoot of the British Empire, and a big, secret part of his appeal was to people who like the romanticism of exploring and conquering the British Empire. It's not a coincidence that Ridley Scott had him sing the song from "The Man Who Would Be King" over the closing credits of "Black Hawk Down."

    a big, secret part of his appeal was to people who like the romanticism of exploring and conquering the British Empire

    And there are a lot more people in that category than just whites.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXYuPMsThYs

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  222. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @AnotherDad

    You know, I’m thinking HBD needs to be advanced by people without alt-right connections. Otherwise it can be written off as ‘scientific racism’.

    I think the smartest thing would be to pull the known correlations like malaria, cystic fibrosis, etc., and ask ‘do you think evolution stops at the neck? Could none of the genes have any effect on brain function?’ The whole thing falls apart if you look at it.
     

    SFG, honestly, i don't see anything to this.

    As other commenters point out, once you're HBDing, you're "alt-right".

    As to convincing folks, the racial physical differences have always been obvious. There's never been any question there are genetic differences that have evolved, it's not like you need to wave sickle-cell or cystic fibrosis (or lactose tolerance) around to establish that. (If fact the behavioral differences are pretty obvious to most people as well, it's just they are less obviously genetic.)

    There isn't a any sort of serious scientific question here. AFAICT, the official left-Jewish-blank-slate position is "modern humans" came into being 100,000 years ago, with a particular mental toolkit and that's what we all have. (We're in one of Gould's punctuated equilibria--i don't know what would puncture it if not the neolithic then civilization ... but what the heck do it know!) Yeah, there's been time enough for selection to work for a few minor tweaks for real serious stuff like vitamin D, malaria resistance, even lactose tolerance. But basically we're all the same--essentially the same people as 100,000 years ago. It's stupid, but that's the party line. It's the party line, because it's a religious ideology.

    I'll suggest that if you want to make headway, talking with friends, acquaintances, i'd start by pointing out that selection is always working. Smart people have smarter kids. Dumb people have dumber kids. If smart people are having larger familes ... we're getting smarter. If dumb people are having larger families ... we're getting dumber. Then work back. The neolithic really was a revolution. Settlement, different food, living with animals, sanitation, disease. Lactose tolerance. Malaria\sickle cell. This all *speeded up* evolution* Throw in "10,000 Year Explosion". And then forward to civilization. "You're going to tell me that in a civilization with trade, money, writing there isn't selection--reproductive success for people with--different traits, than uncivilized more backward places?" More evolutionary speed up. You could toss in Chinese imperial exams. The Ashkenazi Jews.

    You might make some modest headway. I believe--could be deluded--that people are quite open to the smart\dumb genetics on the individual basis. And a fair slice have some concerns about dumb people having lots of kids. The Idiocracy issue. Get them to realize the reverse is how we got here.

    But you'll have lots of resistance to anything involving race. "We're all just humans". It's a religious ideology. And thinking heretical thoughts is not the path to social status, wealth, success.

    Liberals love to quote from “Idiocracy.” By this view, it supports a notion that gov’t not guided by the latest fashionable progressive nostrums will yield a Hobbesian “redneck” dystopia where “human rights” are deformed by Wonderbread/NASCAR-flavored “capitalism” (cf. also RoboCop, Max Headroom). To liberals the movie is a validation of the great prog mission, i.e. to correct everyone else’s behavior in perpetuity. One of the heroines is even a sassy half-black lady. Only the first 5 minutes bear any connection to eugenic concerns, maybe.

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    It’s good Trump is going for the throat over the wire tapping.

    There’s a whole coven in the CIA etc who helped arm Isis – they are obviously desperate to cover it up – desperate enough to try to bring down a President – but once they’re removed things should run a lot smoother.

    (I said the media would have covered up Watergate if Nixon had been a democrat but judging by their spin – justifying it on the grounds of Russia – the paper trail on this is too clear cut to hide.)

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  224. @guest
    We'll need Murrays, in the sense that we'll need ideas and we'll need to have people to run our universities. (Or what we replace the universities with.) But that's beside the point.

    Murray is In the Arena. If he wants to be squishy, he can go back to his think tank, write a book, teach some students, or whatever. There's absolutely no benefit to being In the Arena and acting the way he does, however.

    Totally agree. My comment was as much a critique of Murray as those who dismiss his importance.

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  225. @Mr. Anon

    No, the two types are complimentary, and will succeed or fall depending on the extent to which that is recognized, by both the principals and their various supporters.
     
    A guy like Murray is only complimentary to Trump if he, you know, compliments him............rather than attacks him. You could sensibly argue that it helps Murray's cause that he supported Hillary, that it makes his ideas more acceptable, more palatable to the left. But what did his bending of the knee get him? Both him and his ideas are excoriated.

    Yes, that was my point.

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  226. Octoroon (which my spell-check doesn’t like either, btw).

    OT: The Washington Post has found economists who believe that an influx of Mexicans lowers blue collar wages.

    Good thing for all of us is that this phenomenon only occurs in Mexico:

    More returnees means lower wages for everybody in blue-collar industries such as construction and automobile manufacturing, where competition for jobs is likely to increase, economists say.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexico-prepares-to-absorb-a-wave-of-deportees-in-the-trump-era/2017/03/03/a7bd624a-f86c-11e6-aa1e-5f735ee31334_story.html

    This is great, because it shows:

    1. WaPo knows that supply and demand applies to labor, they just won’t admit it in the American context.
    2. They’re traitors to their own country (they defend Mexican interests, and oppose American interests).
    3. They’re racists; dying White America = “yay!”, dying Brown Mexico = “boo!”

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  227. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Yes, the hard Left mindset of justifying violence to block crimethink is now the norm and is becoming the default stance of the Left in general (since the hard Left will intimidate their more squishy center-left allies into compliance). The left must be prevented from winning again until Trump's reforms are so profound that cultural Marxism cannot recover. This means a 10-20 culture war which our side wins decisively. Since the left is going to continue to try and weaponize mass 3rd world immigration as their brass knuckle contingency, it should be simple enough to bring woke normies along and rack up a string of victories. But it will be a long long battle.

    Yeah, and Republicans must get the reforms fast. All they are talking about is repealing Obamacare and tax reform. They are delaying the most important immigration reform which is to cut legal immigration through merit instead of relatives. They could lose some ground in 2018 and cutting granny social security is always on the Republican agenda which means Republicans need to get all border security, expanding e-verify, cutting down on legal immigration before 2020 when they could lose to the Democrats.

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    Yeah, and Republicans must get the reforms fast. All they are talking about is repealing Obamacare and tax reform.
     

    cutting granny social security is always on the Republican agenda
     
    They're concentrating on the vital issues of principle that matter to them - tax cuts for the rich (which amazingly enough will mean tax cuts for themselves) and screwing the poor.

    Do you really honestly expect that the corrupt vicious greed-crazed Republican scum will do anything at all about immigration (legal or illegal) or border security? How many times do you have to be screwed over and betrayed by these sleazebags before you learn never to trust them?
  228. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    "But … isn’t being a Clash fan a symptom of … Implicit White Identity?"

    I have never met a Vibrantly Diverse person who is a fan of The Clash. Whenever I wear my Clash t-shirt the only people in public who compliment me on it are Whites. And that says a lot because I live in a city where Nonwhites are 60 percent of the population.

    The problem with the left is they were willing to make the US poor by making the third world rich. The problem with this is they are enable for keeping the rich in power in India, Mexico and China and other third world countries. Bernie Sanders could have supported a minimum wage for US and European companies in places like Mexico where they have to pay at least 4 an hour. This would have reduce immigration to the USA since Mexico’s purchasing power would have gone up and more service jobs would have been created at home slowing down immigration to the US to a South Korea level. Carlos Slim thanks the US Democratic Party for keeping the rich in Mexico from paying more taxes.

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