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In case you were wondering whether the tyrannical Trump Administration has yet managed to deport mortgage fraud felon Ravi Ragbir (convicted of 7 counts of wire fraud in 2000 and his appeal was shot down by Judge Maryanne Trump Barry 16 years ago) back to Trinidad, from the Washington Post today:

A message to ICE: My husband is not an object ‘for removal’

August 17 at 6:07 PM

By Amy Gottlieb
Amy Gottlieb is the associate regional director of the Northeast Region of American Friends Service Committee.

This month, my husband, Ravi Ragbir, received a new appointment letter from Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The reason for the appointment, the letter said, is “for removal.”

“For removal,” as if Ravi, a prominent immigrant rights activist and the person I love and have chosen to spend the rest of my life with, were a broken vacuum cleaner set out in the trash with a note for the Department of Sanitation to take him away.

An immigrant from Trinidad, Ravi has lived in the United States for almost 25 years and has faced the threat of deportation since 2006, when his green card was taken away after he completed a sentence for a wire-fraud conviction (which he is challenging in court).

Uh … His appeal was rejected 16 years ago.

Under the Trump administration, the threats of deportation have escalated.

Why the hell wasn’t this crook deported under the Bush Administration, much less the Obama Administration?

In January, he was detained during a routine check-in with ICE and was incarcerated for 18 days in a detention center under threat of immediate deportation. It was only because of massive amounts of community pressure and quick work by his lawyers that he was released. He remains in the United States because of the federal judges who recognize that he should be here with his community as his case continues….

I have been an immigrant rights attorney for 20 years, but the cold, annihilating language of “removal” chills me now more than ever. The word replaced “deportation” in 1996 as part of a large and ultimately devastating overhaul to our immigration laws signed by President Bill Clinton. The legislation made it both easier to deport people and more difficult for people to adjust their immigration status legally. …

But once I saw my husband’s appointment letter, the real meaning of “for removal” finally struck me. It stripped Ravi of his humanity, as it has for millions of others living under threat of permanent exile. We don’t remove things we love; we remove things we no longer need or want. We remove garbage. We remove unwanted furniture or things that no longer work. We remove warts, stains, problems.

Those are good descriptions of your white collar criminal husband, lady.

That, apparently, is what Ravi is to this government.

He’s an alien felon.

I believe this dehumanizing is essential to a system that allows the government to separate families without repercussion. I believe it’s what allows ICE agents to sleep at night — to ignore the terrified and heartbroken loved ones desperate to keep their families together.

Thanks to an outpouring of community support and pending legal cases, federal courts have prevented ICE from taking Ravi away, and we have tried to maintain a sense of normalcy in our lives. But the specter of losing him hovers over us every day.

As anyone who knows Ravi would agree, my husband is the type of person this country should be welcoming.

Mortgage fraud is just a job Americans won’t do anymore. There are fraudulent mortgage opportunities rotting in the files.

To do that, we need to abolish the agency that has stripped immigrants of their dignity. And we need to repeal laws that tear apart families and create an immigration system that supports our values of love, respect and community. Because, after all, no one should be treated as if they were disposable.

 
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  1. I want to believe this is SATIRE, but I know it isn’t.

  2. “For removal,” as if Ravi, a prominent immigrant rights activist and the person I love and have chosen to spend the rest of my life with, were a broken vacuum cleaner set out in the trash with a note for the Department of Sanitation to take him away.

    She’s appalled that the government sees her husband as a mortal being occupying physical space according to the laws of physics. Sadly, they are correct on this point. The good news is that he could still radiate his vibrant personality all the way from Trinidad, were his corporeal form moved to that location in physical space. Scientists have developed a technology they’re calling “Skype”.

    • Replies: @Altai
  3. WP comments are fairly based?

    Perhaps there is still hope for this open air lunatic asylum we call the United States of America?

    • Replies: @kissinger
    , @Seneca44
  4. Dr. X says:

    Well, since Amy Gottlieb is legally entitled under Israeli law to move to Israel and become a citizen there, perhaps she and Ravi should relocate… I’m sure that Bibi and the Knesset would welcome her dusky husband with open arms to spare him the indignity of being sent back to a Third World shithole like Trinidad, all because of some piddling felony conviction.

    Surely, Israel’s commitment to diversity must be greater than that of the racist, bigoted U.S.A. …

  5. Ravi has lived in the United States for almost 25 years….

    That old chestnut: imminent domain applied to invasions. I reckon it’s just a reason to make sure they never get in or are removed within a week: “Well, we used to let you stick around for a hearing and appeal, but we had to revise the system because you insisted our forebearance estopped our standing to enforce the law.”

    It’s the reason many retailers just stopped allowing any solicitation or posting of bills altogether. It hurts good causes one may wish to support, but it is necessary to protect against the villains….

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    , @bomag
  6. Travis says:

    Under Trump deportations are down significantly from the levels under Obama. The threat of deportations are actually lower under Trump than Obama or Bush

  7. This reminds me of the 1983 Jeanine Nicarico murder case in Naperville, IL ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanine_Nicarico_murder_case ) where an illegal Mexican Rolando Cruz got the death penalty.

    Eventually, he was granted a pardon by IL Gov. Ryan. Two years prior to that, he shared a “ghetto lottery” jackpot with two others for $3,500,000.

    A couple of years ago, they showed Cruz on the local television.

    The illegal alien was still residing in the US.

    Amazing. We can’t even deport a Mexican that once received the death penalty.

    • Replies: @Anon
  8. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:

    Say what you will, but during the time he was in jail, he didn’t commit a single act of wire fraud. Say what you will, but if that’s not someone who is committed to demonstrating he has changed his ways, I don’t know who is.

    • LOL: bomag
  9. It’s one thing to love your POS criminal husband because he’s got a magic penis or something.

    It’s quite another to go on the pages of major American newspaper and whine about just how terrible it is for America to deport–actually just bureaucracy that might someday be stirred to deport–your POS criminal husband, essentially advertising your essentially contempt for your nominal “fellow” Americans, while preening as if it’s virtue. That’s called … oh … chutzpah.

    ~~~

    BTW, now that Trump doesn’t have to worry about his stupid parade, he should have some free cycles to do some useful work. Hows about lighting a fire under his deportation-force and get this POS Ragbir toss out. He already lost his appeal so it seems to me, you just grab him up, put him in a plane and fly him back.

    Repeat with all the like abscounders, supposedly “living in the shadows”, but somehow living in the broad light of day lecturing us.

    • Replies: @Lot
  10. @Redneck farmer

    Yeah, but her brain IS an object for removal, like the brain of Alexandria Occasional-Cortex. };^D

  11. Amy Gottlieb-Ragbir =

    Marry a bigot giblet.
    My ragbag trilobite.

  12. J.Ross says: • Website

    It’s all a matter of being reasonable without being credulous.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctor-who-said-he-was-being-treated-black-person-during-n901711

    “White” man taken to the floor by police: “you’re treating me like a black person!”
    That “white” man’s name — Dr Jeffrey Epstein.
    The painted swastikas aren’t working any more, go to situationist theater!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
  13. @Anonymous

    Wow, that’s the most coherent comment Tiny Duck’s ever made.

  14. DuanDiRen says:

    OT:

    https://boingboing.net/2018/08/17/hud-vs-facebook.html

    How can we push this? There are vast thickets of antidiscrimination law, disparate impact, &etc., and Google employs more Serbians than African-Americans.

    The best evidence that Trump is a lucky swindler, as opposed to a 4D Chess master, is that he has not yet unleashed teams of DoJ lawyers on Facebook, Apple, Google, and Spotify.

  15. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    “For removal,” as if Ravi, a prominent immigrant rights activist and the person I love and have chosen to spend the rest of my life with, were a broken vacuum cleaner

    Right. He is precious… unlike all those white Americans who are seen as old broken obsolete objects to be thrown out and replaced with shopping spree of New Americans.

    Speaking of vacuum cleaners…

  16. Lot says:
    @AnotherDad

    He received a final order of deportation 11 years ago. Instead ICE just said you can stay and check in with us once a year.

    When ICE finally grabbed him and put him on a plane home, a judge ordered them to fly him right back.

    ICE and DOJ are doing everything they can in this case. There is a pretty good chance his “first amendment retaliation” argument against deportation will fail and he will be gone within the next couple months.

    Ragbir was one of the two criminal aliens running a “faith leader” abolish-ICE organization. The other guy was deported to Haiti in January.

  17. “For removal,” as if Ravi, a prominent immigrant rights activist and the person I love and have chosen to spend the rest of my life with, were a broken vacuum cleaner set out in the trash with a note for the Department of Sanitation to take him away.

    You wish. A broken vacuum cleaner is a harmless piece of junk. Your husband is a sociopathic piece of shit.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  18. Gottlieb? AFSC? Is this a Jewish Quaker or a Quaker Jew?

    In either case, for a terrifying look into the minds of Quakers:

    http://quakerspeak.com/recent/

    A Quaker congregation:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @CJ
  19. @Autochthon

    Good comment, but I think the legal concept to which you refer is adverse possession, rather than eminent domain.

    Expedited removals (within 24 to 48 hours) of invaders would help alleviate the problem. Better yet, do what the Australians did and just have the asylum hearings at sea–no asylum granted, no landing at all.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Autochthon
  20. The theme running through this case and the reporting on it is simple:

    Human = US citizen

    If you deny anyone the right to live as he pleases in the USA, or the West in general, then you are treating him as less than human.

    What SJWs never question or discuss is what this axiom implies about all the other countries of the world, i.e. that to live in one of them is by definition dehumanizing — even while at the same time they believe that those [shithole] countries are vibrant and bustling societies that stand as cultural and moral examplars to us spoiled, wasteful, environmetally-unsound, consumerist western sinners.

    It’s no wonder SJWs are so cranky. Holding on to this level of cognitive dissonance must take a lot of exhausting emotional labor.

    • Agree: AndrewR, Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Sarah Toga
  21. Joke: apprehend the undocumented immigrants

    Broke: deport the illegal aliens

    Woke: remove the unwanted objects

    • Replies: @Pericles
  22. Overall, we do need to make more of an effort to minimize the humanity of immigrants and traitor Whites

    It’s cold, but it’s effective

    They are doing it to us constantly

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  23. Anon[325] • Disclaimer says:

    This won’t stop until we start deporting Christians.

  24. istevefan says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Is that like ‘squatter’s rights’?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  25. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    No one said they weren’t clever! Least of all themselves.

  26. …Ravi, a prominent immigrant rights activist and the person I love and have chosen to spend the rest of my life with, …

    I know, I know, your feeelings are hurt, and you LUV this criminal man, and the law means nothing compared to your love for the man you’ve chosen to spend the rest of your life wit … WAIT, I GOT IT! .. in Trinidad. Sunny beaches, palm trees, mai tais … make it a 2nd honeymoon combined with a double deportation. It’s a win/win!

    • Replies: @Bill B.
  27. BTW, Steve, I usually don’t go to your original sources – this one would probably be bad for my blood pressure. I’m kinda wondering about the timeline here. She’s been an immigration lawyer for 20 years, and the douchbag’s been in the country for 25. Were they married after she was HIS immigration lawyer? I figure you might know that off the bat, is why I asked.

  28. Whiskey says: • Website

    No fury like a White woman for White Beta males. That Ragbir is a crook is the whole point. He’s not boring like some White dude who works all day. Tingles uber alles.

  29. J.Ross says: • Website

    OT — TONGHT — ON MANNIX

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Gay-San-Francisco-cop-sues-city-in-sexual-13164696.php

    Brendan Mannix, 28, accused members of the Police Department of sexual harassment, sexual discrimination based on his sexual orientation, and retaliating against a whistle-blower. Mannix’s attorneys filed the suit Thursday in San Francisco Superior Court.

    The bulk of Mannix’s accusations focus on two sergeants. One suggested Mannix was in a sexual relationship with the other gay officer at the station, and when Mannix did or said something the sergeant believed was stereotypically gay, he would say “ugh, you gays!” or “God, you gays!” Organ said.

    Mannix — who is still employed as a San Francisco police officer — graduated from the police academy in May 2015 and was assigned to the Richmond Station, where he completed his field training over a probationary period.

    In another instance, a sergeant “talked positively about how ‘back in the day,’ the police would ‘round up’ all of the ‘trannies’ ” who were prostitutes, which Mannix found offensive and concerning, his attorney said.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  30. @Diversity Heretic

    You’re absolutely right; I brain-farted the terms. I’m doing this kind of thing more and more and I’m only in my forties, Getting old for me, both in mental acuity and physical health, has occurred in the two ways Hemingway famously used to describe bankruptcy’s progression….

  31. bomag says:
    @Autochthon

    I was talking with a (white) guy who has lived his whole life on an Indian Reservation. He figured he should be eligible to get on the tribal membership rolls using the logic of these grifters.

  32. @istevefan

    Right. Adverse possession is essentially a concept from equity (as opposed to law). Equity prevents outcomes that are patently unjust even if legally sound. (It all goes back to the days of separate courts run by the king and the church.) The idea is if I use occupy your land 1) continuously (five minutes every day won’t do); 2) hostilely (in a manner infringing on your rights as the owner; e.g. not via lease from you); 3) openly and notoriously (e.g., not in a secret tent on hidden in a corner of the woods, but, rather, in a way such that you know or ought to know); 4) actually (I didn’t just put up a sign or go around town telling people your land was mine – I was on or at least using the land); and 5) exclusively (I myself acted like the land was mine by excluding others; I didn’t just stand around telling anyone else who showed up “sure, you can stay here too; I don’t mind because it isn’t even my land…”) – if all of these classic elements are satisfied for a sufficient period of time (typically about seven years) then the land in fact becomes mine because of the unchallenged and adverse possession. If you think for a moment about medieval farmers mistakenly botching where they agree to build their fences or let their cows graze, or even a botched survey in a suburban neighbourhood followed by the installation of a pool, you can quickly see the value of the doctrine to preserve peace and order.

    Most people nowadays are more familiar with the similar concept of easements, created when a landowner permits people to cross his land for a long enough time that he forfeits his right to prevent the crossings (although in those cases the easement does remain his land…).

    • Replies: @Sarah Toga
  33. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    This explains a lot.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  34. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    To do that, we need to abolish the agency that has stripped immigrants of their dignity.

    No, we need to remove her along with the guy. If she loves him so much and loves immigration, then she should join him in immigrating to his nation.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  35. istevefan says:
    @Whiskey

    But his wife appears to be Jewish. You have told us before that Jewish women do not act like white women in matters like this. You said it was only white women who exhibited this behavior.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Whiskey
  36. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, Mrs. Gottlieb, your husband should be kicked out forthwith. Feel free to accompany him wherever he goes.

  37. RW says:

    Forgiveness is important. And it’s very important to forgive alien felons’ trespasses onto our land.

  38. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    When you get to the part about him larrydaviding it as a deliberate social justice thing, you have an auditory hallucination of his kids saying, “Dad, they found you with a dime bag.”

  39. Neoconned says:

    Can we send his wife with him back to the Caribbean??

    • Replies: @Perspective
  40. The same Amy Gottlieb with the same complaint was also published on the op-ed page of the New York Times in January. And by the Guardian in June. Those who think Unz readers are paranoid about the biases of the “mainstream” news media might want to reflect on how rare is the privilege of having your opinions posted on these papers’ op-ed pages.

  41. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    That flaw aside, it was one of Whiskey’s better posts. Terse, pithy, witty.

  42. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    “We could regain our voice in the public square.”

    Fodder for Steve’s “they tend to lack self-awareness” folder.

  43. Why is so opposed to her husband living in Trinidad, considering it would force her to live without him or move there herself? Does she think it’s a shithole? Someone ought to tweet that to her. Maybe a lot of someones.

  44. @Anonymous

    Not clever enough to not claim a homeland surrounded by people who hate them.

  45. Stogumber says:

    I just used the opportunity to make this a matter of debate in a Quake Forum:

    http://www.quakerquaker.org/forum/topics/american-friends-and-white-collar-crime-the-case-of-amy-gottlieb

    Reactions may be interesting.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Lot
  46. @Stan d Mute

    A Quaker congregation:

    The real Quakers would have a curtain separating the men and the women at the meetinghouse. They’d pull it back for business matters, but not for worship.

    So the co-ed nature of the group in the picture suggests it’s a breakaway sect.

    • LOL: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  47. @Stogumber

    I just used the opportunity to make this a matter of debate in a Quake Forum:

    Too late. Quisp won.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  48. In the comments to that Washington Post opinion piece by Amy Gottleib, someone mentions this blog post, and Mr. Sailer’s name. That’s quite unusual.

    Steve Sailer has a comment on this op-ed on the Unz Review website. I am far more likely to agree with him than with this writer. In a nutshell, Sailer’s point is that her husband is an “alien felon” whose appeal was denied; why isn’t he long gone?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  49. kissinger says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    And yet, they will vote democrat, for a candidate who supports “Abolish ICE.”

    Actions, not words, matter.

  50. Lot says:
    @Stogumber

    Good work. Let us know if they close your account, hard core far leftists don’t like being questioned, and it is taboo to say anything negative about a non-white ethnic activist.

  51. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Great. Then the (few) WP readers whose minds aren’t fully cemented come to UNZ.COM and find the Blood Libel and Mein Kampf.

  52. Bill B. says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    and the person I love and have chosen to spend the rest of my life with

    It will be interesting to see if Amy Gottlieb spends the rest of her conman lover’s life in Trinidad.

    Especially given that said ex-jailbird’s vibrant cachet evaporates the moment he sets foot on Piarco International Airport.

    • Replies: @Anon
  53. clyde says:

    Ravi is a fine illustration of – “It’s not over until the illegal alien wins”. Michelle Malkin said this about 15 years ago.
    Since Ravi what’s his name is such an upfront and public ring leader, I hope his sorry ass gets deported very soon. And take your wife please! Wake up Keebler Elf! (Jeff Sessions)

  54. Altai says:
    @Cagey Beast

    I think it’s also pretty easy for a highly educated, well-off US citizen to go live with her legal husband in Trinidad.

  55. And take your wife please!

    I know, I know, you’ll be here all week ….

    Don’t quit your day job.

    ;-}

  56. Pericles says:
    @ben tillman

    She can just go to Trinidad with him, oy vey solved.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @AndrewR
    , @Anon
  57. Pericles says:
    @27 year old

    Woke: remove the unwanted objects

    … in 24-48 hours.

  58. Pericles says:
    @J.Ross

    Mannix … sounds like some 70s movie you would regret going to see.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  59. Seneca44 says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    WP comments are generally very biased with a disproportionate number of those from the socialist/statist left usually present. If you go to the WP website and view the 200+ comments, you may be pleasantly surprised to find a huge majority of them which support this fellow’s deportation because of his criminal act. Maybe there is hope for rational thought in the USA.

  60. What the hell is going on down there? If this bastard were in Canada, his ass would be a distant, stinking memory.

  61. @Redneck farmer

    Message to Amy Gottlieb: He is!

  62. @Whiskey

    Thanks for the insight, Cold Duck.

    Have you seen a picture of fellow Whitewoman Amy Gottlieb?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Whiskey
  63. Truth Dies in Darkness

  64. @Neoconned

    Or if he finally does get deported, why doesn’t she just join him in Trinidad?

    As anyone who knows Ravi would agree, my husband is the type of person this country should be welcoming.

    Then why deprive a poor country like Trinidad of special people like him?

  65. bomag says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Your comment captures it.

    I’ve been around and worked with plenty of immigrants, legal and illegal; most in the laboring class. Without exception, they assure me that their home country is fine; better than the US in many ways; a good number of them move back home. (I do have one acquaintance in Venezuela who wants to get out of that country, but he is sticking it out for now.) They are just here for more money or adventure.

    The notion that the US is a rescue ship plucking and saving desperate people from the cruel waters of life is just a convenient meme for SJW to wreak their havoc.

  66. quo vadis says:

    She’s right to cry foul. Separating love birds like these is cruel. We need to do the humane thing and deport them together.

  67. A broke vacuum cleaner, I say,
    Has at least done some good in its day.
    And a felon’s “removal”
    Earns my ICEy approval:
    When the bag’s full of dirt, throw away.

  68. can we please ship this POS back to the shithole whence he was born? If he’s a nice guy he’ll help the area become less of a shithole and benefit all of man(woman?- whatever)kind or he’ll be eliminated. We’ve got enough good(-ish) people here, lets help Trinidad

    • Agree: ben tillman
  69. @Father O'Hara

    It’s not the DNC?

    Those guys are too manly. And the gals too attractive.

  70. @Altai

    Exactly. Don’t most successful embezzlers migrate to the Caribbean anyway?

  71. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve come across this woman pleading for her mortgage fraud husbands all over the internet.
    I really despise Quakers. Beneath their smarmy goody goody peace and live front, underneath they are very subversive.

    Maybe they were infiltrated by communists back in the 1930s. I don’t know or care. In the 1960s 70s and 80s American Friends Service Committee people got all sorts of government grants and worked with Black Panthers, Prison Law Project David Horowitz and other radical anti White groups.

    It may be that Trinidad has refused to take him back. The way it works, if their home country doesn’t want deportees we can’t send them back. Even if we strapped them in a plane seat the customs agents in the home country would put them right back on the plane to America
    Mexico and China are the biggest offenders to refuse to take their criminals back.

  72. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pericles

    Unlike the US, Trinidad and other countries would never allow a subversive group like American Friends Service Committee into the country.

  73. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill B.

    I wonder if Trinidad would let a felon convicted of fraud set up another rip off the government and the customers business?

    How is this couple supported? The funds that pay the salaries and other expenses of the subversive anti White American Friends Service Committe come from government aka taxpayers grants and tax deductible donations.

    If conservatives really want to destroy liberalism in a couple years all that’s needed to be done is to get rid of the charitable donation racket.

    Let the rich pay their taxes to the government and let the government provide all the needed services.

    Too many of these do gooder grant hustling poverty farmers have completely different agendas that their stated purpose.

  74. Mr. Anon says:

    “For removal,” as if Ravi, a prominent immigrant rights activist and the person I love and have chosen to spend the rest of my life with, were a broken vacuum cleaner set out in the trash with a note for the Department of Sanitation to take him away.

    Not really a fair comparison. The broken vacuum cleaner once had some value.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @ben tillman
  75. AndrewR says:
    @Pericles

    She shouldn’t have a choice. She needs to be forcefully and permanently removed back to Trinidad right along with him.

  76. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    But Trinidad government doesn’t give billions a year to grant hustling parasites like ACLU, NOW American Friends Service Committee and other subversive organizations.

    If they returned, they’d have no way to make a living unless the husband set up some other criminal endeavor. And Trinidad prisons aren’t as nice as ours

  77. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    When I was young, all the red diaper Jewish girls married blacks. Times change. Amy’s generation either turned fashionable lesbian in middle age or married immigrant felons.

    The latest generation is defending pedophlia unless it’s done by Catholic priests in which case it’s off with their heads.

  78. pyrrhus says:

    I don’t think even the Austro-Hungarian empire was this disfunctional…..Show me where I’m wrong..

  79. This over-emotional reaction is one of the reasons men thought it prudent to limit the right to vote to men only, because men tend to be more rational and logical,thereby making more reasoned decisions. This concept also helps to understand why there is such a strong effort to feminise men in the West, e.g. western civilization. (toxic masculinity anyone?)

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  80. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Stalin

    I remember the case. She was so beautiful. I thought a White man killed her.

    Nowadays DNA would prove without any question who killed her.

  81. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    The good Dr was under the influence of something at the time.

  82. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    She’s not that bad. She’s plain not ugly. Have you seen that Jewish actress on Big Bang Theory? Turner Classics had a Barbra Streisand movie day yesterday. I couldn’t even look.

    Women like Amy Gottlieb make the rest of us look good

  83. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pericles

    But could they make a living as advocates for illegal alien criminals?

    A lot of these small poor countries have pretty strict immigration laws. They recognize their people are poor and don’t need immigrants to further depress the job market and wages.

  84. Mr. Anon says:

    Amy Gottlieb is the associate regional director of the Northeast Region of American Friends Service Committee.

    Funny. She doesn’t look Quaker.

  85. Whiskey says: • Website
    @istevefan

    No. I have consistently said that Jewish women outside Israel are indeed the worst. Inside Israel it is a different matter because most Israeli men have plausibly killed someone in frequent wars. Its why Israel has been able to resist immavasion and Belgium has not.

    Look at Jewish women in the West. Do you think that Matthew Yglesias or someone like that inspires desire based on dominance and swagger? In Israel meanwhile a guy like Ehud Barak has personally whacked at least 3 Palestinian terrorists.

    No wonder the Jewish women in the West want to import half the violent third world. And Israeli women are determined to keep them out.

    Now imagine all the immavaders look like a young Salma Hayek or young Raquel Welch and want a “man baby!”

    How quickly would we have 100 foot walls?

    Yes it really is all about feelz.

  86. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Fat women vote too. Indeed most women in the US are overweight to obese. The fact that they have about zero sexual marketplace value is a problem.

    Indeed the fatter White women get the more they will import fat tolerant foreigners to have a man.

    Imagine every White woman in America is the size of Trigglypuff. How soon do they import half of Africa?

    I’d like to keep what little property I have instead of a South African “Get Whitey” property seizure egged on by educated fat White women eager to have their third world cads get more.

    That’s my skin in the game, what’s yours?

  87. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    At least they don’t have children. He’s a lot more good looking than she is. I went in some of the websites and wrote about the billions defrauded from the government by fraudsters like Ravi.

    When I first encountered AFSC I assumed that most Quakers were good people whose activist committee was taken over by anti White radicals and Black Panther Zebra killer sympathizers. After reading the comments by the goody goody Quakers praising this fraudster criminal I’ve changed my mind. It appears all Quakers are anti White racist liberals

    The 1960s 70s radical and communist party leader Angela Davis who bought the guns that murdered 11 people in the Marin County Courthouse was a Quaker raised by Quakers who inducted her into the CPUSA as a teenager.

    Quakers don’t believe in the draft because they don’t want to kill but one of their own bought the guns that murdered 11 people in the Marin County Courthouse shootout.

  88. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    Philadelphia, or Killadelphia as its affectionately called was founded by the goody goody liberal Quakers as an example to us heathens how peace and love would work out.

    Because of liberal love for black criminals it’s now just another dangerous black ghettoe. Quakers, Jews liberals. They are all anti White racists who put the interest of black and brown criminals above the interest of White law abiding Americans.

  89. Rod1963 says:

    What is it with Jewish females marrying these piles of crap?

  90. @Altai

    When Amy tells the Trinidadians that she works as an immigration lawyer,they may be taken aback.
    “Do you specialise in bringing them in,or keepin’em out?”
    “Why,bringing them in of course.”
    Uncomfortable silence…

  91. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    AFSC was involved in the occupy wall st movement and in anti fa which attacks people waiting in line to hear Trump speak and or wearing Trump hats and T shirts.

    AFSC has also advocated for Mumia Abu Jamal the black criminal who laid in wait and asassinated Killadelphia police officer Faulkner in 1981? Mumbo Jumbo claimed to be a Black Panther. The Panthers denounced him. The Panthers pointed out that the Pennsylvania Black Panthers dissolved in the 1970s and went out of their way to make it known that Mumbo Jumbo was never a Black Panther.

    But the AFSC along with Jews and other anti White racist White do gooders supported Mumbo Jumbo ‘s murder of a working class deplorable young White man who like Darren Wilson of Ferguson PD was just doing his job.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if AFSC gets money from Soros as well as the hardworking tax payers.

    Hundreds of billions of dollars a year goes in tax deductible donations to SPLC, ADL and all the great anti white foundations.

    If the foundations were dissolved and their bank accounts and real estate seized and the charity tax deductions abolished the rich would have to pay taxes to the government instead of the anti White do gooders

    What a windfall. Taxes would go down and government services and infrastructure would be improve.

  92. Pat Hines says:

    I think this Jewess needs to take her husband, Ravi Ragtop, to Israel or go with him to live in Trinidad. Or, a third choice, be arrested and charged for harboring a fugitive. I’ll give her a week to act.

    She’s another example of why we must answer the JQ.

  93. jb says:

    The accusation of “dehumanization” is a rhetorical trope that the Left gets an enormous amount of mileage out of. Basically what they are saying is this: “If you don’t agree with me, that is equivalent to denying my humanity, which is equivalent to being a Nazi, which means you are an evil person who has no right to have his voice heard.” We need to find ways to call out this bad-faith rhetoric, and find counter-rhetoric that makes clear that disagreement is not dehumanizing!

    • Replies: @Anon
  94. ‘… to ignore the terrified and heartbroken loved ones desperate to keep their families together…’

    I love the ‘keeping families together’ angle these people always pull.

    Ragbir’s wife is presumably welcome to accompany him back to Trinidad. All these separated Mexican spouses and children and things can reunite all they like — back in Mexico.

    If someone has the right to stay here and choses to exercise it, that’s their prerogative — but it’s them that’s choosing separation over togetherness, not the US government. We’re merely specifying that they can’t have togetherness here.

    If I live in Oklahoma City and get a job with Boeing in Seattle, is Boeing obliged to offer my wife a job as well? If they don’t, should they be forced to — on pain of being accused of ‘separating’ our family?

    These people come here voluntarily — and can leave and be with whoever they want. No one’s ‘separating’ them except themselves.

  95. AndrewR says:
    @bomag

    Just out of curiosity: list the countries these people are from.

  96. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I don’t think they had internet for the prisoners back then.

  97. @Travis

    Sad but True. While the ICE has made more arrests under Trump, he has deported half the number of illegal aliens as Obama did each year. This is partly due to obstruction by judges.

  98. @bomag

    ‘…The notion that the US is a rescue ship plucking and saving desperate people from the cruel waters of life is just a convenient meme for SJW to wreak their havoc.’

    Too often, too, it’s a combination of the economic and the political. Palestinians would dearly love to come here to get out from under the Jewish boot — but then too, they wouldn’t mind multiplying their standard of living by ten.

    I’m reminded of something that’s been happening with all these ‘refugees’ of varying degrees of authenticity pouring into Europe.

    The ones that wind up in Estonia et al are bitterly disappointed — and understandably so. Of course they’re perfectly safe in Estonia — at least as safe as they would be in Germany. The difficulty is that they’re not as rich. Estonia’s still quite a poor country. Their welfare benefits are…spartan.

  99. Kofi Annan is dead.

    https://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/saying-goodbye-kofi-annan

    Is the UN still a thing? Who runs it now?

    I thought Davos and Brussels replaced it.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  100. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Pericles

    It was a TV show and therefore a MST3K line. I have been waiting to use it like a millennial waiting for housing prices to go down.

  101. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    – When you bring in a token black guy to look diverse but don’t listen to anything he says.

  102. J.Ross says: • Website
    @bomag

    One of my biggest problems with them is that none of them have a concept of the “Constitutional United States.” They see the US as for all purposes the same as their home country, but with worse food and higher pay. Their expectations and plans are unchanged by their journey, except that they hope to make more money here than they could there. This must be a major issue because the mass media never touches it — they briefly reassure that the immigrants are a living validation of the Constitution, by which they mean the Zeroth Amendment. I have been in several situations with working class immigrants where they admitted to bafflement that the Second Amendment exists, and all agreed it should be erased. None of them have any understandimg of the First Amendment except those few who have experienced real persecution on an informational basis. The default outside of our culture is that there is no such thing as objective truth and all versions of reality should respectfully (and sensibly) defer to power. Stomping a Lutheran foot on the ground and insisting that two plus two equals four is regarded as insanity or arrogance, not because they don’t believe or understand it, but because they don’t think it matters. Aside from reality-rewriting government power, almost all of these cultures have a strong deference to elders and family that we abandoned lomg ago or never suffered.
    Of course, all of that is hard to see if you don’t think there’s any such thing as American culture.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  103. CJ says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Quakers don’t get anywhere near the abuse they deserve. They are the original social justice warriors.

  104. well, (amy gottlieb). so yeah.

    they were worried about object recognition being used to identify who was homosexual, but computer science broke other pattern detection scenarios decades ago.

    it’s rowdy roddy pipers all the way down, from here on out.

  105. Anonymous[123] • Disclaimer says:
    @bomag

    That has been my observation. Most immigrants just want to make some money and go back home. But then they have kids. Now they can’t leave, at least not until the kids are grown. 20+ years later (maybe) they can finally retire to the old country. But the kids stay behind of course.

  106. BB753 says:

    Paging Whiskey! Chicks dig jerks, part umpteen!
    With a “sexy dusky immigrant” twist.

  107. vinteuil says:

    It ain’t over ’till the alien wins.

  108. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    The old metal vacuum cleaners like Electroluxes , metal Royals, Filter Queens, Kirbys could always be fixed. It’s almost a crime to throw them away unless they are severely externally damaged. Ravi is not fixable. He’s like an injection molded plastic piece of shit they sell at Wal-Mart that once broken is irrepairable.

  109. @Mr. Anon

    Not really a fair comparison. The broken vacuum cleaner once had some value.

    LOL !

  110. @J.Ross

    One of my biggest problems with them is that none of them have a concept of the “Constitutional United States.”

    Amen.

    None of them could give a single F about the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, because none of those motivated them to come here.

    They are here for the sweet, sweet gibsmedat and nothing more.

  111. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jb

    Off topic . The Democrats are on Fox claiming that they lost the recent election in Ohio because the Green Party split the liberal vote. But behind the Greens are the Russians claim Democrats.

  112. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Did Invade/Invite begin in 1965?

    US enters Vietnam in big way and passes immigration-invasion act.

    While US soldiers waste so many lives and resources on defending South Vietnam(that wouldn’t defend itself), the process of the Worldwide Invasion of America had started.

    In the end, World Invasion will be more catastrophic than World Wars.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  113. the person I love and have chosen to spend the rest of my life with

    And well all know how much that means these days.

  114. Anon[334] • Disclaimer says:

    “To do that, we need to abolish the agency that has stripped immigrants of their dignity.”

    What about abolishing the democrat party?

  115. Anon[175] • Disclaimer says:

    “It may be that Trinidad has refused to take him back. The way it works, if their home country doesn’t want deportees we can’t send them back. Even if we strapped them in a plane seat the customs agents in the home country would put them right back on the plane to America.”

    We can’t retaliate by revoking their tourist visas? We can’t place tariffs on their exports? We can’t ban our own citizens from traveling to those countries until we get what we want?

    • Replies: @J. Dart
  116. @Anon

    “Did Invade/Invite begin in 1965?

    US enters Vietnam in big way and passes immigration-invasion act.”

    YES!

    Lyndon Johnson himself said as much. (paraphrased) “I wanted my Great Society social reforms, they wanted their war. Only if I gave them what they wanted would they give me what I wanted, but “that whore” (the war) took it all.”

  117. Anon[352] • Disclaimer says:

    “behind the Greens are the Russians claim Democrats.”

    Is there a single event they don’t attribute to the Russians? Twitter hashtags, Facebook ads, and now apparently entire political parties.

  118. @bomag

    “The notion that the US is a rescue ship plucking and saving desperate people from the cruel waters of life…”

    But the allegory of a rescue ship can be put to good use, as Plato shows us.

    He would say that the immigrants are no sooner hauled aboard than they set about questioning the navigator’s and Captain’s judgement. They bicker and complain about their condition. They demand to know where the ship is heading and why and insist that they should be consulted in making those decisions.

    A navigator must be capable at math, know the stars and be able to read charts. The captain must understand how to handle the ship in diverse weather conditions and so on, but the fact that the rescued have none of the requisite skills doesn’t phase them. When challenged they assert that they are as qualified as the Captain and navigator and deny that these officers possess any special traits or training that qualifies them for their jobs. They insist that all decisions be made democratically and that since they are a majority of the people, their views should prevail.

    To hand the ship of state over to these people would be madness, but this is what the Democratic Party proposes to do–not really–the Inner Party is just exploiting these useful idiots to gain office which they will use for their own enrichment viz., the Clinton Klan.

  119. J. Dart says:
    @Anon

    We can’t retaliate by revoking their tourist visas?

    Back when we sort of had a country and a representative government, Congress passed Section 243(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 to do exactly that. The Supremes never bothered rewriting it like other parts of the INA because every subsequent administration ignored that section anyway. Before Trump came along it had only been invoked twice in six decades.

    Even Trump is only applying it to foreign government officials instead of to all citizens of the recalcitrant foreign country like the law says. So the US is still letting in “tourists” and “business travelers” without any guarantee that we can send them back if they decide to overstay. The Supremes say we can’t even lock them up for more than 90 days (Zadvydas v. Davis).

  120. I’ve said it before; surely there are DHS personnel who read iSteve. Words matter:

    Don’t call it “deportation,” “removal,” or even “repatriation.” They are being “RETURNED HOME.”

    How about it…?

  121. @Holger Danske

    AGREED!, on behalf of myself and Ann Coulter, who is not available to comment here this morning.

  122. @Reg Cæsar

    Kofi Annan is dead? Well, boutros, boutros, golly!

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