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A pleasant thing to do on vacation is to stroll around $500 per night resorts for free. Why pay to sleep there when they will let you walk around during your waking hours like a real guest at minimal charge?

Anyway, last night, my wife and I were visiting one of America’s most historic grand summer resorts for an evening. She emerged from the ladies’ room to report a newly installed urinal.

You have to admit, this is very strange.

Is it simple Dalrymplean humiliation, a boot stamping on a human face – forever? George Orwell wrote:

Hitler can say that the Jews started the war, and if he survives that will become official history. He can’t say that two and two are five, because for the purposes of, say, ballistics they have to make four. But if the sort of world that I am afraid of arrives, a world of two or three great superstates which are unable to conquer one another, two and two could become five if the fuhrer wished it.

Or is this some kind of religious mania? Reproduction and sex are important religious themes. It used to be socially advisable to believe in a virgin birth, but now it’s necessary to attest that you believe that if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman.

Or is it both?

 
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  1. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I’ve always maintained that two rather dour middle aged, middle class Englishmen of a certain vintage – George Orwell and Enoch Powell – are the real, true, prophets of our present decayed, insane, era.

    Some might add Aleister Crowley to that ‘unholy trinity’ of prophets.

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    • Agree: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Continuing with theme of middle-class Oxbridge educated male Anglo-Saxon prophets of the 21st century, even the Monty Python team in their most demented depths of absurdity cannot possibly match the insanity of today's Economist/EU political orthodoxy.
    , @Romanian
    Crowley? Maybe Aldous Huxley. His soma, orgy porgy, fordism and memory hole-ing etc etc were prescient, as was his depiction of enlightened managerialism from a third worlder high up on the totem pole (Mustapha Mond)
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  2. syonredux says:

    Get WOKE, Steve:

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    Follow
    Myq Kaplan ✔ @myqkaplan
    trans people, you are:

    1) loved
    2) human
    3) not a burden
    4) heard
    5) seen
    6) valued
    7) so much more
    8) loved#TransRightsAreHumanRights
    2:36 PM – Jul 26, 2017
    112 112 Retweets 256 256 likes

    https://www.themarysue.com/trans-rights-are-human-rights/

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Is that somebody's application essay for Stanford?

    I took a peek at 'The Mary Sue' website. It looks pretty sweet - a nice mix of geek/pop culture with radical feminist and transsexual flair. The world has been waiting for this far too long.

    I think the founder - Dan Abrams - has got a winner on his hands.
    , @Anonymous
    Thanks to 1960s PBS We Shall Overcome K-12 curricula "rights" has become just about the most garbage debased term around, up there with "discrimination" and "opportunity." Someone might be free to believe whatever insane rubbish xir wants, but isn't entitled to everyone's or anyone's acceptance of said belief. The mongrelized understanding of "rights" is something akin to a lifetime EBT card functioning on the principle of "I want this so you have to give it to me"-- to say nothing of the further distinction between an entitlement and a privilege.
    , @ScarletNumber

    trans people, you are:

    3) not a burden
     
    You could debate the other things on the list, but by definition trannies are a burden.

    ---

    Once upon a time a "woman" hiking up her dress to pee at a urinal was a standard sitcom trope. Now it would be a hate crime to include such a scene.
    , @International Jew
    Is that another Stanford application essay?
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    You are like little baby, watch this. Appropriately from a Rear Admiral and a Vice Admiral of The Queen's Navy.

    https://twitter.com/RAdmAlexBurton/status/890255337533702145

    https://twitter.com/VAdmJWoodcock/status/890257164060774406
    , @L Woods
    Recruits with color blindness or childhood ADD however, are none of those things. Insufficient Pokemon points for the circus freakshow.
    , @TWS
    Lol
  3. Precautionary lawsuit protection, as to avoid ADA shakedown racketeers?

    Regarding all the transwhat drama (queens?)… I’m not finding the voluntary mutilation / better living though chemistry nearly as appalling as the economic aspects. Trans-sexual simulation might not even be the most heinous crime against nature, G*d and humanity compared to the nearly universal 21st century freakshow of self-inflicted body modifications, disfigurement by tattoo and intentional food-poisoning… resulting simply from way too much of it… with the obesity epidemic as its consequence.

    However in a world which demands and indulges out of compassion for men striving to achieve a “more feminine” presentation to obtain boob-jobs and electrolysis to remove body-hair and for women striving for a more masculine muscular physique to obtain androgenic hormones, how can we then deny boob jobs and electrolysis for cis-women unsatisfied with their natural endowments? Why can’t cis-men take advantage of a little “chemical help” to get more buff? With limits to public and private health care resources, what of priorities?

    In the silly-season leftopia where I’m stuck at the moment, transwhats are a common sight. You know that these precious folks aren’t paying for the hormone supplementation, medical consultations, blood work and other tests as well as for the surgical sculpting out of their own pocket….

    Your taxes and insurance premiums at work…

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    indulges out of compassion
     
    Compassion is the Latinish version of the Greek sympathy which means literally "to suffer with." But World War T is the exact opposite of that. It's about washing one's hands of the messy reality rather that dealing with the mental illness involved, and it's about avoiding any conceivable suffering at any cost.
  4. JimB says:

    I can’t understand why woman haven’t spoken with a unified voice against permitting female imposters from using women’s bathrooms. Men are slobs, and men’s bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.

    No matter how you shake and dance the last drop ends up in your pants, and the other 10 drops end up on the floor.

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    • Agree: Daniel H
    • Replies: @Alden
    It's probably because even though bathrooms have both signs on then, men and women still use different bathrooms.

    What a petty, silly, farcical cause. And look how easily the lunatics achieve their goals thanks to the courts. I keep wondering what's next.
    , @Kylie
    Yes, men are slobs. But so are women.
    , @Thea
    Some feminists are flattered that a man wants to be a woman. They've internalized the bogus concept of penis envy so they are happy to believe that vagina envy exists.
    , @Gaslighting Hotep

    Men are slobs, and men’s bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.
     
    I've heard from those who have seen plenty of both, that the men's rooms tend to be cleanest.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Jim, read what Kylie says, but I will tell you from my experience facilitating events at a local venue, the women's restroom is always a disaster. Women squatting over the toilet, but not sitting down and peeing everywhere but in the bowl and women covering every exposed area of the porcelain with TP and then peeing all over it and leaving it to dry where it lands. Years since we have had cigarette butts in the urinals though.
    , @MBlanc46
    Few women are standing up against the trans-nonsense because too many of them have bought into the "it's a social construction" nondense. Plus, at the moment, it's the party line.
    , @Wency
    More importantly, separate bathrooms exist to protect women and girls from men. Particularly deranged men -- e.g., the sort of man who will cut his dick off to fulfill a sexual fantasy. Men who might assault them, spy on them, expose themselves, make lewd comments, etc. Women -- particularly young women -- are the biggest supporters of the trans nonsense (besides the trannies themselves) and also the most likely victims.

    My theory is that one determined Andy Kaufman type could destroy the whole trans bathroom idea in a very short time. Go around the country, causing trouble in women's restrooms, insisting that he's a woman while making no effort to appear female, and making it a civil rights issue when people complain. Then at some point, when the damage was done, he'd decide he was a man after all and never admit to anything.
    , @guest
    Oh used to be a janitor. Men's rooms had more bodily fluids, minus blood. In every other respect women's were messier, and by a margin that more than made up for the pee, poo, and dirt gap.

    Men's rooms had more giant piles of dirt on the ground, when that happened to happen, which was only occasionally.
    , @anonymous
    In my first life I worked as a porter in a commercial building in Manhattan. I used to have to clean both the men's and ladies bathrooms so I can say without fear of contradiction that the ladies bathrooms were (you'll pardon the expression) shit holes.
  5. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    What does the “minimal charge” refer to? You had lunch there?

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    • Replies: @dcthrowback
    Real guests use the forever pool and swim-up bar.
    , @IndieRafael
    At the Grand Hotel on Mackinac Island, Michigan, they charge $10 to walk around the hotel. That seems reasonable to me.
  6. snorlax says:

    It’s like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus’ dried scrotum sweat.

    As you’ve observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women’s-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who’d dare mock God’s cotton-polyester blend.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You left out the part where the true believer bends down and puts her arm around her child and points -- and in reverential tones imparts the concrete lesson of the abstract dogma that had merely glazed over eyes: "You see? Girls can have penises too."
    , @AM

    It’s like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.
     
    Go ahead. Keep tearing down Christianity. Medieval Europeans didn't believe in witches, understood the need to be married and stay that way, and certainly would have laughed at Bruce Jenner in a dress.

    We need to stop pretending we're more advanced the those stupid Christians in the past. I get this might have been a joke, but it's time to lay down this infernal modern arrogance on the point.

    The transgender stuff is maybe not the sign of the Apocalypse but it is the sign of a society in serious social decay. This happened too, at the end of Rome and Greece. Whoever we are in comparison to the past, we are not smarter or more sophisticated. Right now my WWII Grandmother with the 8th grade education who spied on her neighbors is starting to look like a genius.

    , @ic1000
    On last night's CBS Evening News, the two lead stories were on Trump's Twitter-based oppression of patriotic transgender soldiers. The pathos of the patriotic officer manfully trudging along as the voiceover recounted xir anxiety over this blatant betrayal. Followed by a cavalcade of explanations and statistics that illustrate the manifold ways in which the many trans servicepeople shoulder More Than Their Share of the Burden, and Never Complain.

    Once again, The Divide: my spouse was appalled by the injustice of it all, while I had to admire the showrunners. Rolling cameras on a moment's notice with the most attractive spokespeople for their cause. A cavalcade of compelling statistics ("less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense's healthcare costs are due to transgender issues"). Claims sure to fall apart upon inspection... the inspection that never happens.

    As the military gives transgenders the bum's rush, we should spare a thought for patriotic asthmatics, flatfoots, amputees, and blind people. CBS News won't.
    , @Percy Gryce
    Analogy fail: relics were widely and popularly displayed during the Christian Middle Ages. They weren't reserved for the frisson of the few but rather were available for devotion of the many.

    Better luck next time.
    , @Alden
    There is also the demand that the holy trans icon of tampax Kotex vending machines be installed in men's rooms because "menstruation is a right"

    Some college trans clubs are already demanding this.

    Last night I watched Tucker Carlson. He had a dim congress critter on, a man, claiming that there are thousands of trannies serving in the military "with distinction". What's serving with distinction? Probably doing their job and not getting into trouble.

    I wish Carlson had asked the congress critter exactly how many trannies are actually in the military. Supposedly there are less than 10,000 I the whole country, so how many can there be in the military?
    Thank god Trump stopped it. Otherwise every wanna be tranny under 35 in the country would join up to get the expensive hormones and surgery to effect the change. There is also a lot of psychological treatment and anti psycho drugs involved.
    I keep wondering , what is the next liberal cause? How totally insane will it be?
    , @Charlotte Allen
    You seem to have an underpants fixation.
    , @StillCARealist
    Actually it's threatening (if, indeed, it was a urinal) to normal women who now have to watch for the presence of men in the restrooms. No more sending in your young daughter on her own.

    I was recently at a state park in Utah and looked for a women's room. Behold, a man exited from the door as I approached. He saw me stare and said, "can I help you with something?" I replied, with disdain, "no." Then I realized he was an employee who had been in there cleaning. When we each understood the other we had a good laugh at the state of our crazy world.

    A local park here in Roseville has put the sign "All Genders" on their restroom doors. What this means in practice is that now the homeless guys can do drugs in both bathrooms instead of just one. It also means I won't go there again.

    This stuff stops when women have had enough. Men don't seem to really care. I suspect, but don't know, that the problems the military were having were mostly related to women feeling preyed upon by male perverts.
    , @Cloudbuster
    The weird thing about adding urinals is that people can use sit-down toilets -- with greater privacy -- regardless of their plumbing, and all male and female bathrooms already come so-equipped, and using the sit-down toilets never arouses any suspicions, controversy or unwanted attention (but, of course, they WANT the attention, don't they?). As you say, it's just symbolism -- Dalrympian boot-on-face symbolism, to be sure.
    , @Hockamaw

    The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus’ dried scrotum sweat.
     
    Outstanding comment. Bravo.
    , @moral arc
    The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards the floor all around the men's toilet.
  7. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    I've always maintained that two rather dour middle aged, middle class Englishmen of a certain vintage - George Orwell and Enoch Powell - are the real, true, prophets of our present decayed, insane, era.

    Some might add Aleister Crowley to that 'unholy trinity' of prophets.

    Continuing with theme of middle-class Oxbridge educated male Anglo-Saxon prophets of the 21st century, even the Monty Python team in their most demented depths of absurdity cannot possibly match the insanity of today’s Economist/EU political orthodoxy.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Did you ever see that sketch from the very first 1971 Monty Python movie in which the Pythons enact a very camp British Army battalion mincing through their military drill?
  8. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux
    Get WOKE, Steve:

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    Follow
    Myq Kaplan ✔ @myqkaplan
    trans people, you are:

    1) loved
    2) human
    3) not a burden
    4) heard
    5) seen
    6) valued
    7) so much more
    8) loved#TransRightsAreHumanRights
    2:36 PM - Jul 26, 2017
    112 112 Retweets 256 256 likes
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/trans-rights-are-human-rights/

    Is that somebody’s application essay for Stanford?

    I took a peek at ‘The Mary Sue’ website. It looks pretty sweet – a nice mix of geek/pop culture with radical feminist and transsexual flair. The world has been waiting for this far too long.

    I think the founder – Dan Abrams – has got a winner on his hands.

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    • Replies: @peterike

    I took a peek at ‘The Mary Sue’ website. It looks pretty sweet.

     

    I posted some real-talk over there once. I was banned the same day as I made my first comments.
  9. Thursday says:

    A pleasant thing to do on vacation is to stroll around $500 per night resorts for free. Why pay to sleep there when they will let you walk around during your waking hours like a real guest at minimal charge?

    I highly recommend having dinner at the Ladera Resort restaurant in St. Lucia, if you’re ever there.

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  10. Achilles says:

    Before long, unwillingness to believe that Bruce Jenner is a woman will be considered a mental illness, a psychological disorder, a delusion.

    Hollywood will get on board. The Rock will play a transgender woman in a new movie “G.I. Jolene,” in which he undergoes a grueling BUD/S selection program while wearing high heels and at the same time overcoming bigotry from cis redneck fellow SEAL candidates. In a climactic scene, the Rock saves the most bigoted member of the class from drowning during a particularly brutal training exercise, followed later by a romantic encounter between the two. Before they are able to finish their training, the team of SEAL candidates is called into emergency service in the Persian Gulf where the Rock saves the entire team from almost certain death by using explosives stored in his bra.

    Academic research studies will prove that those laboring under the delusion that Bruce Jenner is a man are less intelligent and more superstitious than the rest of the population.

    All of this will be in the service of Science, because of course Science compels the conclusion that Bruce Jenner is a woman. Deniers will be considered as denying Science itself, and denying Science is to attack the set of values by which our civilization determines the proper standards of human behavior.

    Naturally, none of this will be applied to Muslims, because it would be racist to do so.

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    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    The Rock will play a transgender woman in a new movie “G.I. Jolene,”

    Arnold beat him to it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110216/
    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    That about sums it up.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Sol, let's do lunch. I got an idea I want to turn into a concept.
    , @MikeCLT
    That is really funny.
    , @Pat Boyle
    The Rock is a good choice for such a film. Dwayne Johnson (The Rock) is already a Caucasian impersonator. His father was black, his mother Hawaiian. But he has had a little plastic surgery and a course of skin whiteners and now he plays white guys.

    In his recent earthquake movie he has an all white daughter and no one comments.
  11. Clyde says:

    There must be some useless eater professor out there who has written on, “The urinal as Caucasian hetero-normative hegemony”. “The Patriarchy” has now inserted its urinals into woman’s bathrooms.

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  12. Oh Steve, you really shouldn’t wander outside your station. That wasn’t a urinal your wife saw, it was a work of art,

    in the style of Duchamp:

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    • Agree: Thea
    • Replies: @Pericles
    Some aspiring artist should produce the ladies' room version. Make haste.
    , @AM
    I've had people praise Duchamp to me because he pointed out the stupidity of modern art by doing the urninals, etc. I call it the same decay. It's not like his mockery of it has changed anything. We're still stuck with giant squares of color, trash heaps, and drop clothes as "art".
  13. Things seem a little hopeless when even Orrin Hatch is defending “transgender rights.”

    One thing is for sure, if (and when..ugh) “transgender rights” succeeds, something even weirder will come next. I can’t quite imagine what that will be, but I’m sure it’s coming.

    I believe people should be nice wherever possible. If someone wants to be “transgender,” fine, whatever. If someone believes he’s Napoleon, I’d even be willing to humor him, but don’t force me to BELIEVE he’s Napoleon or address him as “Your Imperial Majesty.”

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Orrin Hatch was big buddies with Ted Kennedy. 'nuff said.
    , @Marty T
    Hatch isn't running again and he's always been as liberal as possible for Utah. But yeah it's still mind boggling. 24 Republican representatives voted to allow taxpayer funded sex change operations in the military. And every Democrat did. These "moderate" Republicans need a primary.
  14. Ben Kurtz says: • Website

    It’s obviously a case of the inherent religious impulses of mankind finding some outlet or another, however bizarre, given that the good old fashioned religious traditions of the West are out of fashion.

    I’m neither the first nor the last person to point this out, but I expand upon the Left’s tendency towards their own made-up primitive religion here: https://benkurtzblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/05/on-the-inherent-power-of-objects-or-the-fetishism-of-the-left/

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  16. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux
    Get WOKE, Steve:

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    Follow
    Myq Kaplan ✔ @myqkaplan
    trans people, you are:

    1) loved
    2) human
    3) not a burden
    4) heard
    5) seen
    6) valued
    7) so much more
    8) loved#TransRightsAreHumanRights
    2:36 PM - Jul 26, 2017
    112 112 Retweets 256 256 likes
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/trans-rights-are-human-rights/

    Thanks to 1960s PBS We Shall Overcome K-12 curricula “rights” has become just about the most garbage debased term around, up there with “discrimination” and “opportunity.” Someone might be free to believe whatever insane rubbish xir wants, but isn’t entitled to everyone’s or anyone’s acceptance of said belief. The mongrelized understanding of “rights” is something akin to a lifetime EBT card functioning on the principle of “I want this so you have to give it to me”– to say nothing of the further distinction between an entitlement and a privilege.

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  17. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @snorlax
    It's like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus' dried scrotum sweat.

    As you've observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women's-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who'd dare mock God's cotton-polyester blend.

    You left out the part where the true believer bends down and puts her arm around her child and points — and in reverential tones imparts the concrete lesson of the abstract dogma that had merely glazed over eyes: “You see? Girls can have penises too.”

    Read More
  18. pedant says:

    if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman.

    I’m afraid I must inform you that as of this past January, Jenner is anatomically incapable of utilizing a urinal.

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Stop me if you've heard this before ....

    A reporter is interviewing Caitlyn/Bruce Jenner, and asks if zir still has zirs penis.

    Zir says, "Yeah, it's right her in my purse. Wanna see it?"

    Ba dum.
    , @BB753
    Links, please?
    , @NOTA
    I'm afraid I must inform you that that's more than I wanted to know.
  19. wren says:

    ‘Do you remember,’ he went on, ‘writing in your diary, “Freedom is the freedom to say that a man has a penis”?’

    ‘Yes,’ said Winston.

    O’Brien unbuttoned his trousers to expose his penis.

    ‘Am I a woman, Winston?’

    ‘No.’

    ‘And if the party says that a woman has a penis– then am I a woman?’

    ‘No.’

    The word ended in a gasp of pain. The needle of the dial had shot up to fifty-five. The sweat had sprung out all over Winston’s body. The air tore into his lungs and issued again in deep groans which even by clenching his teeth he could not stop. O’Brien watched him, his penis exposed. He drew back the lever. This time the pain was only slightly eased.

    ‘Am I a woman, Winston?’

    ‘No.’

    The needle went up to sixty.

    ‘Am I a woman, Winston?’

    ‘No! No! What else can I say? No!’

    The needle must have risen again, but he did not look at it. The heavy, stern face and the penis filled his vision. The penis stood up before his eyes like a pillar, enormous, blurry, and seeming to vibrate, but unmistakably a penis.

    ‘Am I a woman, Winston?’

    ‘No! Stop it, stop it! How can you go on? NO! No!’

    ‘Am I a woman, Winston?’

    ‘Yes! Yes! Yes!’

    ‘No, Winston, that is no use. You are lying. You still think I am a man. Am I a woman?’

    ‘No! Yes! No! Anything you like. Only stop it, stop the pain!’

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  20. @syonredux
    Get WOKE, Steve:

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

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    trans people, you are:

    1) loved
    2) human
    3) not a burden
    4) heard
    5) seen
    6) valued
    7) so much more
    8) loved#TransRightsAreHumanRights
    2:36 PM - Jul 26, 2017
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    https://www.themarysue.com/trans-rights-are-human-rights/

    trans people, you are:

    3) not a burden

    You could debate the other things on the list, but by definition trannies are a burden.

    Once upon a time a “woman” hiking up her dress to pee at a urinal was a standard sitcom trope. Now it would be a hate crime to include such a scene.

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    M*A*S*H is out and having watched a few Seinfeld re-runs of late (after having not done so for a few years), I believe admitting to watching Seinfeld will be akin to admitting to reading Mein Kampf.
  21. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Intersectionality singularity:

    http://spectator.org/pinkwashing-censorship-how-the-chicago-dyke-march-won-its-war-on-the-media/

    p.s. there’s yet another forensic detail as evidence that, contra Sailer, a certain “paleoconservative” Mike Judge flick is more beloved by the fringe-freak Left than any configuration of the Right (cf. also: most Internet references to it)

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  22. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    With its redundancy this feature has burned up the last shred of plausible deniability that they’re reorganizing society for the sake of accommodating extreme corner-case situations.

    It’s sheer Progressive gold-toed boot-stamping perfection.

    The battle cry: “But like how does this literally even affect you!?”

    “It–it doesn’t.”

    “You’re damn right it doesn’t.”

    “But can’t they just use the toilet?”

    “No expense will be spared to fill your world with things that literally don’t affect you — or anyone.”

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Someone needs to come up with a better phrase than conspicuous virtuous consumption (not that it's needed much: social justice mostly compels the inconspicuous consumption of its vices paid with virtue-signal credits).
  23. at syonflake-
    1. there are only 5 sexual states, all the rest is made up bullshit: opposite sexual (what 90-95% of us are, required for the perpetuation of the species; the rest are ‘not normal’); same sexual; both sexual; auto sexual, and no sexual…
    that covers it, all the rest is made up bullshit…
    2. i am sorry we have shit in our nest so much with endocrine disruptors, estrogen mimics, and toxins we know nothing about, that we are causing developmental issues in ALL the planet’s flora/fauna… sorry we have done that stupid shit TO US ALL, and that it causes a myriad of NOT normal intersex specimens across all species… that is a tough row to hoe, but it is NOT representative of a normal, VIABLE human bean; it is a biological horror show we have perpetrated upon ourselves…
    3. (before you start pearl-clutching and gasping (sic) at straws, please tell me that all the animals in nature showing signs of intersex chimeras, etc, is all perfectly ‘normal’… PLEASE explain that to me, and how human beans are different, it is all some sort of non-judgmental, super-special snowflake, just kind of miraculously happened kind of deal where we are evolving to a NON-viable species ? ? ? no, you are fucked, and i am sorry for that, but what you are NOT, is a new gender or something; no, you are an unfortunate freak… sorry…
    (i am a ‘freak’, too; but in a different way; i accept my lot and make the best of it…)
    4. to the point of making ALL bathrooms pan-sexual and be done with it… such a waste of time: the titanic is sinking, and all the freaks in steerage can bitch about is getting a deck chair where they can be seen…

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    All models lie, but some models are useful.

    A model with two categories (straight men and straight women) captures most of the picture, but misses a few people. Add gay and lesbian, and you have a more complicated model that covers more of the population. Add in bisexuals, asexuals, and transgenders and you're getting an increasingly complex model, where each addition makes a smaller inprovement in your coverage of reality.

    For all I know, there is some model with 36 genders that describes things even more precisely. But the map ain't the territory, so until you get to seven billion categories, you won't prfectly describe everyone. Somewhere, there's a person whose gender identity is a ham sandwitch and who is only sexually attracted to iguanas, and your evil exclusionary 36-gender model doesn't cover it.

    The bathroom issue is pretty perfect for our age--it's a great source of culture war and outrage (probably great for websites creating clickbait), and yet it's a matter of very little actual importance.
  24. Pericles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Oh Steve, you really shouldn't wander outside your station. That wasn't a urinal your wife saw, it was a work of art,

    in the style of Duchamp:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFsIE6WhVrU

    Some aspiring artist should produce the ladies’ room version. Make haste.

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  25. unit472 says:

    Anyone who went to stadium events knew that women, facing lines to use the women’s rooms, would co-opt a few of the stalls in the men’s lavatories. No public announcements had to be made, no signs posted. Women in need just walked on in and used an empty stall.

    I assume the same happened in Department Store dressing rooms. If a transvestite came into a Target and wanted to try on women’s clothes he would use the women’s dressing rooms. If some woman was offended and complained the store manager would try and defuse the situation and hope it didn’t happen again. He/She would not notify the CEO of Target and the CEO would not want to make an issue of a rare incident. Discretion was the best ‘policy’. The ‘unstated’ rule for public toilets and dressing rooms was sexual activity was not permitted. Beyond that it was help yourself but keep it to yourself. It worked.

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    In New York (where bathroom rights for tranniea are LAW) I have LITERALLY used the women's room and - when the inevitable gasp and stuttering "this is the ladies room" came - I claimed to identify as a woman.

    I did this even when the men's room was empty. I do it for the groveling apologies and subservient honors.

    I wouldn't do this down south of course but in nyc it's hilarious. You can't imagine the red- faced, "I'M SO SORRY!"s I get.

    That's why I love various society's crazinesses, like Mencken I LITERALLY ENJOY THEM.

    Unless the persecution gets two STDeviations worse, I GENUINELY hope rhe whole tranny, feminism, sacred negro... stuff continues.

    I know that lots of folk here are ASJWs (anti social justice warriors) and really want to CHANGE THINGS but I'm a happy warrior who hopes my enemy resurrects each day so that I can have fun with him all over again.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    unit, The Bills stadium, since remodeled, just had maybe one stall per men's restroom and a stainless trough, with flowing water, against one wall. There was also a foot operated circular hand sink in the middle of the john, guys would surround it and pee away, sort of like a circular firing squad. Never saw anyone washing their hands. Women were always welcome.
  26. George says:
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    Whatever transwhat toilet-terror troubles us, the REAL problem is whoever (or whatever) is spraying all over the porcelain place.

    Let the emancipated ladies fight this battle themselves. Men are already used to weird creepy dudes cruising the toilets for heaven knows what. Time for equality in misery!
  27. Amasius says:

    Made me think of this classic Ramzpaul vid:

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    Funny but prank phone calls are immoral. If each man just started to subject his actions to the golden-rule test, we'd suddenly stop living in a land of jerks.
  28. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Perhaps the urinatrix is supposed to wrap around the urinal Alien style.

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  29. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    While everyone refers to Orwell’s 1984 when talking about our current f-ed up society, I think it is closer to Huxley’s Brave New World. A comparison of the dystopias by Neil Postman from his book Amusing Ourselves to Death:

    “What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny “failed to take into account man’s almost infinite appetite for distractions.” In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that our fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that our desire will ruin us.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World

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  30. dcthrowback says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    What does the "minimal charge" refer to? You had lunch there?

    Real guests use the forever pool and swim-up bar.

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    • Replies: @Lurker
    Exactly. The urinal is doubly redundant.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Real guests use the forever pool and swim-up bar.
     
    If one wears smart clothes (nice blazer, good shoes, etc.), one can bluff one’s way into all sorts of ‘restricted’ amenities, including swim-up bars. :)
    , @Cloudbuster
    You mean for urinating? Probably.
  31. Tiny Duck says:

    Maybe you guys should just live and let live be. Don’t your ilk like freedoms? Or is that only when convenient.

    I think the real problem is that you guys are old and tired and can no longer run with the the young bucks who are increasingly diverse

    You guys really need to read verysmartbrothas to see what the ascendency majority (you know the future) thinks about white men ruining life for everyone else

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    TD, you are so confusing. Now I should stop reading Leonard Pitts? And what is Mr. Pitt's stand on shared public bathrooms? And speaking of stands. Do you stand to pee?
    , @Alfa158
    And here I thought I was the last guy who is old enough and racist enough to still refer to young male Negroes as "bucks". Glad to hear there are at least two of us left standing!
  32. AM says:

    Reproduction and sex are important religious themes. It used to be socially advisable to believe in a virgin birth, but now it’s necessary to attest that you believe that if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman.

    Sex and reproduction are important religious themes because they’re as close to God as we’ll ever come to be. Mixed in with a dash of hedonism for good measure, because on this planet, the joke is us. :)

    Keep what’s in your pants under control and you’ll go a long way to having a great life in this one, let alone in the next one.

    We also need miracles. We need something more than our routine, mundane lives. I confess it took a long time after going back to church to believe in the virgin birth again. But the God who makes the rules of sex can break them, too.

    It seems wholly better for everyone to believe exactly one blessed woman was willing to become a mother without the fun than to discard that as impossible and backward and “puritanical”. Look how quickly we’ve devolved into a puritanical belief about the truly impossible and insane.

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    It seems wholly better for everyone to believe exactly one blessed woman was willing to become a mother without the fun
     
    I'm not so sure about that..... I understand that we are all better off if we all pretend there is some Big Guy in the sky watching our every move and who will make us pay for eternity if we make a wrong one. Even if this is not true, it's a highly useful fiction.

    But I don't see why virgin birth is really a necessary element of Christianity (let alone for "everyone"). It was only mentioned a couple of times in the New Testament and in only 2 of the gospels and apparently was not a big deal for at least the first couple of centuries of Christianity. It strikes me as one of those elements that got played up later in order to make Christianity more sellable to pagans - this Jesus guy was not just a great moral teacher but he had heap big magic too - virgin birth, died and came back to life, revived the dead, etc.. Jupiter and Apollo have nothing on Him. The early evangelists were selling a product to a skeptical audience. It was a good product but any salesman is apt to exaggerate the features of the product in order to make the sale.
  33. AM says:
    @snorlax
    It's like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus' dried scrotum sweat.

    As you've observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women's-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who'd dare mock God's cotton-polyester blend.

    It’s like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    Go ahead. Keep tearing down Christianity. Medieval Europeans didn’t believe in witches, understood the need to be married and stay that way, and certainly would have laughed at Bruce Jenner in a dress.

    We need to stop pretending we’re more advanced the those stupid Christians in the past. I get this might have been a joke, but it’s time to lay down this infernal modern arrogance on the point.

    The transgender stuff is maybe not the sign of the Apocalypse but it is the sign of a society in serious social decay. This happened too, at the end of Rome and Greece. Whoever we are in comparison to the past, we are not smarter or more sophisticated. Right now my WWII Grandmother with the 8th grade education who spied on her neighbors is starting to look like a genius.

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    Medieval Europeans didn’t believe in witches
     
    Are you sure about that?

    Generally speaking, Christianity was an improvement over paganism - no more Gladiator fights, no more human sacrifice, etc. However, there is no doubt that certain aspects of Medieval Christianity were not particularly Christian - Jesus (if he was around) would have been the first to say that making a big deal about bits of wood from the True Cross or the Holy Foreskin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce

    was really missing the point of what he was trying to teach.

    At its best, religion distinguishes us from the lower animals but at its weakest it exploits certain flaws in human software - for example the idea that the magnificent spirit of certain humans or beasts attaches to pieces of them or objects that have touched them or to certain places and that if you can possess or even touch a bit of those then the greatness will in turn rub off on you. This idea is held not just by (parts of) Christianity but also by many primitive religions, modern Leftism (see Magic Dirt) being one of them.

    The whole tranny thing was a result of the Left winning World War G. Never in history has any fund raising or political apparatus declared victory and gone home. The March of Dimes was created to cure polio but when polio was cured they did not disband - they just found more diseases to cure so that the fund raisers could keep their jobs and nice offices. Every political movement needs a bloody shirt to wave, something to excite the base. Once World War G was won, they had to find a new frontier and Trannies were it. Admittedly kind of slim pickings - all the low hanging fruit was gone. But better than nothing. Had Hillary won, World War T would have also been won and they would have had to find something else (what would it have been?). But since Trump won, the Left will dine out on World War T a bit longer. Fund raising emails are going out to the base by the millions at this very minute.
    , @German_reader

    Medieval Europeans didn’t believe in witches
     
    That's only correct insofar as the paranoia over witches reached its heights in the early modern era (promoted by ecclesiastical figures like the Dominican inquisitor Heinrich Kramer who wrote the Malleus maleficarum; in Britain the first Stuart king James I also was a great believer in witches and wrote treatises about them), but of course plenty of Christians during the Middle Ages did believe in magic, witches etc.

    This happened too, at the end of Rome and Greece.
     
    The Roman Empire in the west collapsed when it had become officially Christian, the truly decadent stuff (Elagabalus etc.) happened much earlier.
  34. @syonredux
    Get WOKE, Steve:

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    Follow
    Myq Kaplan ✔ @myqkaplan
    trans people, you are:

    1) loved
    2) human
    3) not a burden
    4) heard
    5) seen
    6) valued
    7) so much more
    8) loved#TransRightsAreHumanRights
    2:36 PM - Jul 26, 2017
    112 112 Retweets 256 256 likes
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/trans-rights-are-human-rights/

    Is that another Stanford application essay?

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  35. AM says:

    A pleasant thing to do on vacation is to stroll around $500 per night resorts for free. Why pay to sleep there when they will let you walk around during your waking hours like a real guest at minimal charge?

    We’ve done this. It’s a blast. In Disney World you can stay at far more reasonably priced resorts and than hang around the $700 a night ones while those people who are staying there are off at the parks.

    I think of the overnight guests as subsidizing our vacation, just like we get money back from our credit cards, which is still just bizzaro to me.

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  36. AM says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Oh Steve, you really shouldn't wander outside your station. That wasn't a urinal your wife saw, it was a work of art,

    in the style of Duchamp:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFsIE6WhVrU

    I’ve had people praise Duchamp to me because he pointed out the stupidity of modern art by doing the urninals, etc. I call it the same decay. It’s not like his mockery of it has changed anything. We’re still stuck with giant squares of color, trash heaps, and drop clothes as “art”.

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  37. On occasion, I end up having to go to events where the dreaded 1% attend and without fail, their wives are in the tank for progressive/social justice/clown world issues. I wouldn’t be surprised if the resort installed the urinal in the women’s restroom so the wives can chirp about how open minded and progressive the resort is. Free advertising!

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  38. Or is this some kind of religious mania?

    It’s religious. Europe always had a relatively large and powerful Gnostic minority.

    The Gnostics believe that the material world in all its forms is evil, and that the pure and good exists only in the form of abstract thoughts.

    From these axioms they derive that childbirth is inherently immoral and evil, as are sex acts that lead to childbirth. From this they further derive that the best kind of people are the sexless (genderless) and sterile ones. In historical times they widely practiced castration (thus there’s numerous places in Christian canon law dealing specifically with castration), but today they’ve replaced it with ‘transgenderism’. (The physical effect is the same, but the social stigma slightly less when they ditched the historical baggage of the castration meme.)

    This is also the reason for homomania; Gnostics were always homo-friendly in historical times. (But of course they consider transgenderism/castration as ‘better’ because gays still retain the physical capability to give birth to children, even if they can’t form families.)

    But ultimately their goal is to destroy family formation. They rightly view the nuclear family as the root that perpetuates society. Anything that prevents healthy nuclear families they view as an ultimately good thing.

    P.S. This is also the reason for ‘modern art’. Gnostics find realistic representation abhorrent, and the concept of beauty even more so. The only art they accept is either a completely abstract kind, without reference to any physically existing item or thing, or the ugly kind that causes a visceral disgust at the material realities of life.

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    This was my thought as well. Peaceful and prosperous societies seem to independently breed this kind of contempt for biological and material reality. I don't think modern Americans picked it up by reading Ancient neo-Platonist mystics, though- it seems to be a natural temptation for human beings in every civilisation. Man, as an amalgam of animal body and rational soul, exists in perpetual tension with himself. Men in rich nations often resolve that tension by denigrating the flesh as a cursed hindrance to the independent perfection of the spirit. Whether you blame a Demiurge or "institutionalised sexism" doesn't make a whole lot of difference. Bruce Jenner thinks he's psychologically a woman trapped in a man's body, just as Cathars thought themselves angelic intellects trapped in animal bodies.

    Neo-Gnostic contempt for physical matter also spurs contempt for the obvious in favor of the esoteric, another driver of the modern art you mentioned. Sure, Mozart sounds better than Schoenberg to you ignorant rubes, but that's just because you haven't studied enough- rational, sophisticated people know better. Likewise, suppressing your natural revulsion toward ugly men dressed as women not only proves your mastery over your own bestial instincts, but lets you pity the poor uneducated suckers who can't look past "surface appearances" to see the "true inner reality". The more esoteric and counter-intuitive your beliefs, the greater your inner spiritual perfection and superiority to the mass of animalistic men- thus the virtue-signalling spiral. Best of all, you don't actually have to restrain yourself from the sins that really do tempt you, allowing you to combine all the fun of indulging your favorite sins with moral self-assurance of your own holiness and perfection.
  39. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    With its redundancy this feature has burned up the last shred of plausible deniability that they're reorganizing society for the sake of accommodating extreme corner-case situations.

    It's sheer Progressive gold-toed boot-stamping perfection.

    The battle cry: "But like how does this literally even affect you!?"

    "It--it doesn't."

    "You're damn right it doesn't."

    "But can't they just use the toilet?"

    "No expense will be spared to fill your world with things that literally don't affect you -- or anyone."

    Someone needs to come up with a better phrase than conspicuous virtuous consumption (not that it’s needed much: social justice mostly compels the inconspicuous consumption of its vices paid with virtue-signal credits).

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    "Someone needs to come up with a better phrase than conspicuous virtuous consumption "

    Virtue signalling
  40. Steve, you ask if this ladies’ room installation is to humiliate our worship. Think about where your wife saw it. You were at a high-end resort, where presumably most users of those facilities would be good, nice, woke people, not ordinary schlubs.

    The urinal is therefore a sacred temple urn. It’s there for the edification of the true believers, i.e. post-Christian heretics.

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    • Agree: snorlax
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The urinal is therefore a sacred temple urn.
     
    All women not down with men using their restrooms should leave an earthy steaming offering in the urn.
  41. ic1000 says:
    @snorlax
    It's like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus' dried scrotum sweat.

    As you've observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women's-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who'd dare mock God's cotton-polyester blend.

    On last night’s CBS Evening News, the two lead stories were on Trump’s Twitter-based oppression of patriotic transgender soldiers. The pathos of the patriotic officer manfully trudging along as the voiceover recounted xir anxiety over this blatant betrayal. Followed by a cavalcade of explanations and statistics that illustrate the manifold ways in which the many trans servicepeople shoulder More Than Their Share of the Burden, and Never Complain.

    Once again, The Divide: my spouse was appalled by the injustice of it all, while I had to admire the showrunners. Rolling cameras on a moment’s notice with the most attractive spokespeople for their cause. A cavalcade of compelling statistics (“less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense’s healthcare costs are due to transgender issues”). Claims sure to fall apart upon inspection… the inspection that never happens.

    As the military gives transgenders the bum’s rush, we should spare a thought for patriotic asthmatics, flatfoots, amputees, and blind people. CBS News won’t.

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    "A cavalcade of compelling statistics (“less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense’s healthcare costs are due to transgender issues”). Claims sure to fall apart upon inspection… the inspection that never happens."

    Another technique is to assert that stats you don't like will of course prove to be bogus ... and then hope no one checks back on your assertion.

    So, you really think TG healthcare costs are a SIGNIFICANT part of the military budget?

    Is that why we haven't won a war since Ed Wood was in the Marines?
    , @Catholic Philly Prole
    "As the military gives transgenders the bum’s rush, we should spare a thought for patriotic asthmatics, flatfoots, amputees, and blind people. CBS News won’t."

    That's exactly right, as well as people with checkered backgrounds, various mental illness, formerly visible tattoos, epileptics, pre-existing conditions such as chronic joint injuries/bad backs, shoulder dislocations, etc. I served in Iraq and when that conflict as well as Afghanistan was on and popping you can bet that the standards were lowered significantly being they needed "every swinging dick" as we would say. There were nearly 170,000 brave Americans in SW Asia Theater in 2005-06 for Christ' sake. I saw newly enlisted 45 year old Army National Guard Privates over there as well as fat bodies, people with neck tattoos so on and so on. All these things would have been unthinkable when I enlisted in the aftermath of 9/11 and they didn't need "E.S.D" for the Neo-cons exploratory adventures....yet. Furthermore the military has been depleted so by the Obama administration (the preferred nomenclature is "Drawn-down") that I imagine they are picky again with who gets through MEPS unscathed. That being said I would also imagine that trans-genderism or sexual dysphoria whichever you prefer does little to help the bonds of unit cohesion and it's presence has the potential to do lots of harm to it. So basically in a time that good kids have a hard time getting billets because of draw-downs, whats the upside to having the freaks around?

    , @Jack D
    A cavalcade of compelling statistics (“less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense’s healthcare costs are due to transgender issues”)

    This is the usual statistilying - the DOD's healthcare budget is a gazillion $, so 0.1% of some very large # is still a tidy sum. The # of trannies in the Army is still pretty small. Why don't they mention the cost PER TRANNIE instead of the % of the military budget. What if we learned that the military was spending over $100,0oo of our hard earned money to transform each Bradley into a Chelsea at taxpayer expense? How would the viewers of CBS News feel about that statistic? What if we got to learn the details of what was involved - how Uncle Sam is paying for electrolysis on every hair in his beard so that Chelsea doesn't have a five o'clock shadow marring xer beauty. How every trannie needs a taxpayer paid shrink session every week to talk him thru the process. How would that go down with some small businessman struggling to get by and burdened by Federal taxes, to know that's where his tax dollars are being spent?

    http://time.com/money/4092680/transgender-surgery-costs/

    Knowing the great efficiency with which our military operates, it wouldn't surprise me if it is was even more.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    ic, are there any transgendered hosts of a prime news hour, on a major station or network? Lots of gays and lesbians, but no transgendered. Probably because in reality there are so few who aren't complete nut jobs.
  42. I had just read the following passage this morning devotion (yes I read the Lord’s Word prior to our esteemed host):

    Jude Chapter 1, Verses 17-19 (NASB version).

    17 But you, beloved, ought to remember the words that were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, 18 that they were saying to you, “In the last time there will be mockers, following after their own ungodly lusts.” 19 These are the ones who cause divisions, wordly-minded, devoid of the Spirit.

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  43. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “She emerged from the ladies’ room to report a newly installed urinal.”

    I suspect this is more for virtue signalling, showing that the resort is,”on the right side of history”, rather than having something installed which will have much use (if any).

    Libtardianism sells well among upper and upper middle class whites.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Urinals in the ladies room may also serve the long-suffering GoGirl crowd. Who knew that they finally get to take the piss out of all those I displayed virtues in conventional facilities!

    https://www.target.com/p/gogirl-female-urination-device-45-khaki/-/A-12892211
  44. Trump announcing that transgenders won’t serve in the military is one of the reasons that, whatever gaffes and faux pas he commits in the next three years, he is likely to be reelected. The Democrats are just too committed to crazy.

    Here is a passage from an official military brief on accommodating transgenders:

    All soldiers must use the barracks, bathroom and shower facilities associated with their gender marker in DEERS. Understand that you may encounter individuals in barracks, bathrooms and shower facilities with physical characteristics of the opposite sex despite having the same gender marker in DEERS.

    DEERS is the acronym for Defense Enrollment Eligibility Reporting System. At X’s time of enlistment, X gets to pick what sex X identifies with. So what the above passage is saying is that every enlistee must use the barracks, bathrooms, and showers consistent with whatever gender they are or may pretend to be.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/us-army-tells-female-soldiers-accept-naked-men-showers-190934/

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    We're taking deer into the army now? Transpeciesism.
    , @slumber_j

    The Democrats are just too committed to crazy.
     
    That's right: it's what poker players call being "pot-committed." You've allowed the pot to grow so large without folding your increasingly obviously weak hand that from now on the only mathematically sensible move is to keep playing at the pot.

    It happens to both parties all the time, but lately the Democrats have been the more susceptible I'd say.
  45. @snorlax
    It's like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus' dried scrotum sweat.

    As you've observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women's-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who'd dare mock God's cotton-polyester blend.

    Analogy fail: relics were widely and popularly displayed during the Christian Middle Ages. They weren’t reserved for the frisson of the few but rather were available for devotion of the many.

    Better luck next time.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Analogy fail: relics were widely and popularly displayed during the Christian Middle Ages.
     
    Not entirely. Some wealthy nobles collected relics for their own private collections.
    , @Jaakko Raipala
    A better analogy would be the pagan beliefs where the world was full of easily offended unseen spirits and you had to learn their rules and tend to their needs.

    Perhaps if the village is celebrating harvest festival in your house you'd prepare an extra table for the harvest spirit just in case he knocks on your door. You probably don't actually believe the harvest spirit will show up as a guest and your guests don't believe it either but when they see the unused extra table reserved for the spirit they know you're following the same customs that they do.
  46. @Harry Baldwin
    Trump announcing that transgenders won't serve in the military is one of the reasons that, whatever gaffes and faux pas he commits in the next three years, he is likely to be reelected. The Democrats are just too committed to crazy.

    Here is a passage from an official military brief on accommodating transgenders:


    All soldiers must use the barracks, bathroom and shower facilities associated with their gender marker in DEERS. Understand that you may encounter individuals in barracks, bathrooms and shower facilities with physical characteristics of the opposite sex despite having the same gender marker in DEERS.
     
    DEERS is the acronym for Defense Enrollment Eligibility Reporting System. At X's time of enlistment, X gets to pick what sex X identifies with. So what the above passage is saying is that every enlistee must use the barracks, bathrooms, and showers consistent with whatever gender they are or may pretend to be.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/us-army-tells-female-soldiers-accept-naked-men-showers-190934/

    We’re taking deer into the army now? Transpeciesism.

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  47. inertial says:

    Dalrymple has no clue. The rule of thumb is, if people are passionate about something then they really believe it. And if they really believe it and also lack a certain level of empathy they will think that everyone else in the world secretly believes the same thing. Their opponents don’t just happen to have different beliefs, they deny the obvious truth because they are evil.

    This describes SJW and anti-SJW, communists and anticommunists, religious people and atheists, and so on.

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    • Replies: @sabril

    The rule of thumb is, if people are passionate about something then they really believe it
     
    Nobody really believes that races are equal in intelligence and criminality; that all religions are equally destructive; that global warming disaster is just around the corner; that there is a rape epidemic on college campuses; or any of the other Leftist nonsense which has been pushed on us for many years now.

    This is obvious from looking at peoples' personal decisions in terms of where to live; how to behave; how to invest; and what principles to compromise on. Would liberals accept an immigration moratorium in exchange for strict regulations on carbon emissions? If they seriously believed in their global warming claptrap, they would jump at such a deal. But of course they don't and they wouldn't.
  48. inertial says:

    Incidentally, this transgender military ban is smart politics on the part of Trump. Let the Left have yet another meltdown on this issue.

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    • Replies: @NOTA
    Oh, the horror of Trump, rolling the military back to the dark days of June 2016 when Obama announced the new policy wrt transpeople.
  49. The Z Blog says: • Website

    I had a post the other day about tribal signalling. I think it is possible that the Cult of Modern Liberalism picks up issues like trannies as a form of self-defense. In order to be in their thing, you have to accept some form of lunacy. A decade ago that meant embracing homosexuality. Now, the Proud Boys are all super-gay so the Progs need something even nuttier. Now you have to be pro-tranny.

    Once Jonah Goldberg writes “The Conservative Case of Chopping of Your Junk”, the Progs will find some new lunacy to embrace.

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    • Replies: @TWS
    You got that right. Goldberg or Pod the Lesser will write it mark my words.
    , @Corvinus
    "I had a post the other day about tribal signalling."

    Speaking of your posts, your website has apparently been scrubbed. What happened?
    , @SteveRogers42
    Which comes next?

    1. Drastically lowering the age of consent

    2. Literal animal husbandry (and wifery),

    3. Polygamy -- but only for the Sharia-compliant.
  50. Steve lets stay with the dalrymplean insight,This moldbiggian idea that leftism is a wasp holiness signaling spira, not a jewish survival strategy, is well, part of the strategy we dont want to perpetuate. Im sure its true there are dolts out there stupid enough to worship tranny urinals, it is a big world. But there wouldnt be tranny urinals if jewish strategy didnt call for them and white race traitors didnt calculate it was in their interest to comply.People dont destroy themselves to signal status, they defect from each other to survive

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  51. Mr. Anon says:

    Critics of this action – i.e., all the right sort of people – were pointing out that medical expenses caused by transsexuals were a tiny fraction of the military’s budget. Which is true, for now, as there aren’t many of them in the service right now. However, one can imagine a situation where these weirdos flock to the military in order to have their horomone treatments and addadicktome operations paid for by Uncle Sam. Just as it’s not too hard to see a gay-friendly military becoming yet another gay ghetto.

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  52. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Baby changing stations have been in many men’s rooms for years now. Presumably there was a grass-roots demand for this so that men could do their share. For some strange reason they don’t seem to be in use much and most appear to be in disrepair were someone to actually bother to check.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Those men's room changing tables were the result of a class action law suit.
    , @NOTA
    When my kids were in diapers, I used them all the time. *Way* nicer than changing a kid on the disgusting floor of the mens room.
  53. Mr. Anon says:
    @Percy Gryce
    Analogy fail: relics were widely and popularly displayed during the Christian Middle Ages. They weren't reserved for the frisson of the few but rather were available for devotion of the many.

    Better luck next time.

    Analogy fail: relics were widely and popularly displayed during the Christian Middle Ages.

    Not entirely. Some wealthy nobles collected relics for their own private collections.

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  54. Mr. Anon says:

    You have to hand it to Trump for trying to reverse a destructive liberal social policy. I don’t think Jeb Bush would have done any such thing. I say “trying” because it is not certain this will take. I assume that somewhere there’s a court challenge in the offing right now, and a federal judge who is champing at the bit to overstep the authority of his office.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I'm all for reversing this '203 genders, men are women BS' too, but he needs to stay focused on building the wall, and the ban on people from terrorist states. Hammer down those two, the main things people wanted him to do, then focus on reversing the social foolishness. You'll have no America if it becomes a giant shariah zone overrun with Tribbles from down south.

    If your house is on fire, you don't start mowing the lawn.
    , @Anonymous
    "You have to hand it to Trump for trying to reverse a destructive liberal social policy."

    Sure, but aren't there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority.
  55. @Percy Gryce
    Analogy fail: relics were widely and popularly displayed during the Christian Middle Ages. They weren't reserved for the frisson of the few but rather were available for devotion of the many.

    Better luck next time.

    A better analogy would be the pagan beliefs where the world was full of easily offended unseen spirits and you had to learn their rules and tend to their needs.

    Perhaps if the village is celebrating harvest festival in your house you’d prepare an extra table for the harvest spirit just in case he knocks on your door. You probably don’t actually believe the harvest spirit will show up as a guest and your guests don’t believe it either but when they see the unused extra table reserved for the spirit they know you’re following the same customs that they do.

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    • Replies: @StillCARealist
    Or like the old Mexicans you could just rip the hearts out of the enemies captured in battle. Those gods are blood-thirsty and insatiable. Best not to mess with them.
  56. Dahlia says:

    I hadn’t checked in with Gender Trender and some of the other gals in awhile and a lot sure had changed: “women” can proudly have penises and not even look like women anymore. Or even change their masculine name.

    At first, I though it was a one-off thing,

    https://twitter.com/evan_greer?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    (bonus: The larger the trustfund, the bigger the protest seen in action)

    then a two-off thing,

    https://www.google.com/search?q=danielle+muscato&rlz=1C1LENN_enUS664US674&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs-sCAzKnVAhVBgj4KHe28AJIQ_AUICigB&biw=1242&bih=580

    but, no, it’s a thing:

    http://www.teenvogue.com/story/how-my-beard-affects-my-gender-identity-as-a-trans-femme

    Back to the urinals, this one made threats prompting an alert earlier this month; most recent facebook posts had been about the lack of urinals in the women’s rooms at Southwestern College:

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Southwestern-College-Issues-Safety-Alert-Concerning-Potential-Threat-434104033.html

    The demented violence and threats from TransDykes (divide time between attacking Rightists and “terfs”; founder keeps a mustache) aren’t a one-off, either. Twitter accounts like @exposingtrans keep very, very busy. You cannot tell the difference between the tone and nature of the threats against radfems/terfs and that that’s been uttered against Trump supporters in the past year; the only difference is that they get away with it against the radfems because other liberals have their back. Radfems believe women are owed protections under the law and society by simply being women because they are weaker; that they must have separate spaces, especially when it comes to bathrooms and showers.

    You’ll also learn from such accounts that women discussing menstruation or their female body parts is very triggering to transwomen, and as good allies, there has been a very strong push to end their discussion. I kid you not, and if you wondered why a few liberal organizations were starting to say things like, “people who have ovaries”, this is why. There has been no similar push from “transmen”, not even remotely.

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    • Replies: @snorlax

    There has been no similar push from “transmen”, not even remotely.
     
    They've been fairly successfully going after Planned Parenthood and NOW for using "women's rights" and "women's health" to refer to abortion, since after all men can be pregnant too.
    , @Tracy

    You’ll also learn from such accounts that women discussing menstruation or their female body parts is very triggering to transwomen, and as good allies, there has been a very strong push to end their discussion.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yALNSd0iME

    , @The True and Original David

    You’ll also learn from such accounts that women discussing menstruation or their female body parts is very triggering to transwomen, and as good allies, there has been a very strong push to end their discussion.
     
    Will we live to see the day when performing "The Vagina Monologues" is the equivalent of reciting "Mein Kampf" today?

    As a man, I hope so.
  57. DWright says:

    I slept in my car in a 5 star hotel parking lot in San Diego once.
    Drove around for four hours at night looking for a room, all were gone.
    Figured sleep in the best lot at least.

    On the tranny stuff, when did the memo go out that this was normal or acceptable? Or is it like Sobran referred to, the hive mentality. They are pushing every odious law and culture abomination until the necessary backlash occurs. I hope Trump’s recent push back is the start.

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    • Replies: @The Millennial Falcon
    The LG in LGBT did so much damage to cultural conservatism that trannies got a fast-pass to full normalcy. The defensive line was broken.
  58. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “…if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman.”

    I thought he transitioned to being a woman, hence “Caitlyn.” In which “he” should be a “she”. But evidently Caitlyn isn’t a “she” after all. Or is she? Or should I say “he?”

    I’m confused. Not as much as Caitlyn though. Or is it Bruce? Or…???????

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    AFAIK, he hasn't had his male reproductive organs cut off. Transitioning doesn't include such sacrifice--it's just one's public presentation/appearance.
    , @Moshe
    Remember way way way back in 2014 when trannies were still a joke?

    Today this scene would constitute a Hate Crime.

    https://youtu.be/dNbZ_ufJ5Q8
  59. Yep. The media can react fast. Check out this article. The Hill shows a picture of a pilot but turns out that the transgender is a staff sergeant.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/transgender-airman-i-would-like-to-see-them-try-to-kick-me-out-of-my-military/ar-AAoSHDK?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    Also, where the hell does this 15,500 serving transgender members of the military come from?

    There’s no chance on this planet that there are ~15,000 transgender military personnel.

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    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    "Transgender airman: 'I would like to see them try to kick me out of my military'"

    Trump: Challenge accepted.
    , @oddsbodkins
    Probably from someone multiplying the military population by one percent. Which is absurd.
  60. Alden says:
    @snorlax
    It's like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus' dried scrotum sweat.

    As you've observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women's-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who'd dare mock God's cotton-polyester blend.

    There is also the demand that the holy trans icon of tampax Kotex vending machines be installed in men’s rooms because “menstruation is a right”

    Some college trans clubs are already demanding this.

    Last night I watched Tucker Carlson. He had a dim congress critter on, a man, claiming that there are thousands of trannies serving in the military “with distinction”. What’s serving with distinction? Probably doing their job and not getting into trouble.

    I wish Carlson had asked the congress critter exactly how many trannies are actually in the military. Supposedly there are less than 10,000 I the whole country, so how many can there be in the military?
    Thank god Trump stopped it. Otherwise every wanna be tranny under 35 in the country would join up to get the expensive hormones and surgery to effect the change. There is also a lot of psychological treatment and anti psycho drugs involved.
    I keep wondering , what is the next liberal cause? How totally insane will it be?

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    • Replies: @CCZ

    There is also the demand that the holy trans icon of tampax Kotex vending machines be installed in men’s rooms because “menstruation is a right”

    Some college trans clubs are already demanding this.

     

    "Powerful Photo Shows That Women Aren’t The Only Ones Who Get Periods"

    “Not all people who menstruate are women, and not all women menstruate.”

    By James Michael Nichols


    A transgender artist released a powerful photo last week in an attempt to broaden the cultural understanding of the different types of people who experience menstruation.

    Cass Clemmer, who uses they/them pronouns, posted the photo of themself on Instagram on July 12, depicting them free-bleeding while holding up a sign that reads “Periods are not just for women #BleedingWhileTrans.”
     

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cass-clemmer-trans-periods_us_597101bce4b0aa14ea78a251
    , @StillCARealist
    People join the military now for the secure money. Why shouldn't they join for the free, exotic healthcare? Seriously, a man we knew a few years ago couldn't make enough money to support his wife and six kids, so he joined the army. They're poor, but they have all their basic needs met. I'll bet there's tons of single moms in the military getting all sorts of bennies. I'm guessing on that, but I'd love for an active military type to fill me in.

    Also, another guy in the army told us that there's a gang problem there. Again, anybody know about this?
    , @Hockamaw

    I keep wondering , what is the next liberal cause?
     
    They're going to figure out some kind of way to make polygamy legal for Muslims, Africans, and hipsters (but still illegal for Mormons) and then try to force that on everybody.
  61. PSR says:

    On a not entirely unrelated topic: Over many years I have driven the West Virginia Turnpike many, many times; say one hundred or more. There is a rest area just south of the first tollbooth that is always packed with cars and trucks. The men’s room had 4-5 toilets and 4-5 urinals. I just stopped there for the first time since last summer and the restroom has been totally rebuilt and the new men’s room has 4-5 stalls but no urinals. I’ve never seen a men’s room with no urinals but now – thanks WV Turnpike – long lines of men waiting to pee in the toilets. And the toilets flush automatically so they are constantly flushing. Heck of a waste of water.
    I can’t even imagine the reasoning.

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    NYC passed a building code law several years ago, for the purposes of equality, mandating men's and women's rooms to have the same number of porcelain appliances. So, in the past, the lavatory footprint would largely be the same, with a men's room containing four urinals hung on the wall opposite four stalls, while the women's room has four stalls, foregoing the urinals. Such an approach entitles the women to eight porcelain appliances. To accommodate such a building requirement, the floorplan footprint must change, e.g. to accommodate six stalls for women and three stalls and three urinals for men (or similar configuration).

    Perhaps WV has done something similar, and 'equalized' by eliminating the urinals. Women are often complaining of their lavatory wait times--and TPTB have decided turnabout is fair play.
    , @Karl
    63 PSR > 4-5 stalls but no urinals


    if you believe the newspapers, the new American aircraft carrier that Trump just put into commission..... has no urinals.
  62. THF says:

    The most likely scenario is that the resort is converting its restrooms from single-sex to non-gender specific to avoid disputes over transgender guests.

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    • Replies: @res
    That kind of makes sense. I was trying to figure out how even women who are OK with a penis in the ladies' room would want it to be wielded out in the (relative) open at a urinal rather than behind a closed stall door. I suppose another possible explanation is minimizing the impact of aiming issues on the toilets.

    P.S. iSteve, any details on how the urinal was positioned? Out in the open, behind a door, in or out of the primary traffic pattern...?
    , @NOTA
    The endgame here is one-holer unisex restrooms. That deals with the awkwardness with transpeople using the womens or mens room while not offending anyone. It will cost more, but probably be more pleasant overall.
    , @a Newsreader
    Maybe they designed to restroom so it could be changed from a women's room to a men's room if the hotel is hosting an event with few women (gay convention, baseball statistics convention, ham radio convention, etc.).
  63. slumber_j says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Trump announcing that transgenders won't serve in the military is one of the reasons that, whatever gaffes and faux pas he commits in the next three years, he is likely to be reelected. The Democrats are just too committed to crazy.

    Here is a passage from an official military brief on accommodating transgenders:


    All soldiers must use the barracks, bathroom and shower facilities associated with their gender marker in DEERS. Understand that you may encounter individuals in barracks, bathrooms and shower facilities with physical characteristics of the opposite sex despite having the same gender marker in DEERS.
     
    DEERS is the acronym for Defense Enrollment Eligibility Reporting System. At X's time of enlistment, X gets to pick what sex X identifies with. So what the above passage is saying is that every enlistee must use the barracks, bathrooms, and showers consistent with whatever gender they are or may pretend to be.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/us-army-tells-female-soldiers-accept-naked-men-showers-190934/

    The Democrats are just too committed to crazy.

    That’s right: it’s what poker players call being “pot-committed.” You’ve allowed the pot to grow so large without folding your increasingly obviously weak hand that from now on the only mathematically sensible move is to keep playing at the pot.

    It happens to both parties all the time, but lately the Democrats have been the more susceptible I’d say.

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    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    This analogy only really applies to the democrats. The repukes just get the true Conservatives to pony up and up and then they fold like a cheap tent to the democrats and split the pot with them 90 - 10 (the larger share, of course, going to the demoncrats).

    But I agree that the demoncrats appear to be completely committed to absolute insanity these days.

    God Bless Trump.
    , @Travis
    Democrats are bad at math...they probably do assume they are pot committed but they should know they have a losing hand and it would be prudent to fold this hand...even most democrats oppose transponders in the military, even Obama waited until he was in his last months (when it looked like rump would lose the Presidential election) before he allowed Trans people to serve in the military.

    It is notable that just 12 months ago Sen. McCain attacked Obama for allowing transgendered to serve openly in the armed forces...Sen. John McCain railed at the Obama administration for its "contempt" of Congress in keeping lawmakers in the dark about its decision to lift a ban on letting transgender troops serve in the military..."All I can say is it seems maybe their more interested in the publicity value than really getting something accomplished, because something like this will require some legislation."
  64. pedro says:

    I have to say all this restroom furor is silly. Public bathrooms are simply becoming unisex. It allows for more efficient distribution of resources at times of peak use. And they have not ended civilization in Europe.

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    • Replies: @res
    The problem is, unisex bathrooms are not more efficient in all ways. The men's room layout with multiple urinals and stalls is much more space efficient. Even the women's room layout with only stalls is more space efficient than individual unisex bathrooms. And in my experience the individual unisex bathrooms exacerbate the problem of people using bathrooms for drug use, "showering", etc.
    , @StillCARealist
    We did a long Europe-wide tour last year and used public bathrooms all over the place. All but one were single-sex.... one out of about 100 that we used.

    Europeans like their bathrooms separate too.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    Are you actually suggesting that Western Europe isn't a byword for cuckedness these days? Seriously?
    , @Paul Yarbles

    And they have not ended civilization in Europe.
     
    I dunno. A lot of Europe is pretty eff'd up. Maybe it is the unisex bathrooms.
    , @David Davenport
    And they have not ended civilization in Europe.

    Maybe the tranny perverts won't, but the muzzums will.

    Europa is used up, done for, a goner.

    You have nothing to brag about, Pedro.
    , @SteveRogers42
    You sure about that?
  65. Maybe the 21st-century boot smashing our faces is the fact that we have to (publicly, at least) pretend to believe a pack of rotten lies called reigning narrative.

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  66. Luke Lea says:

    Shouldn’t the blind, deaf, and dumb have a right to serve in our armed forces? Surely accommodations could be made at minimal costs. And while their numbers might be small, their right to bear arms should not be infringed. At the very least, let us hope a District Judge somewhere puts a stay of our Commander-in-Chief’s foolish decision until the Supreme Court can weigh in on the Constitutional issue involved. Human rights should trump our nation’s ability to fight and win wars when those are the very values we seek to defend.

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    • Replies: @Joe Franklin

    Shouldn’t the blind, deaf, and dumb have a right to serve in our armed forces?

     

    The US constitution doesn't allow for a standing army.

    As it exist now, a standing army is a tool of democracy and diversity ideology-pushing warmongers.

    Anything that weakens a standing army is good for restoring constitutional government.

    The militia is the true guard of constitutional freedoms, not a standing army.

    The people who most benefit from a overreaching federal government are diversity people.

    Morally speaking, diversity people should be the soldiers fighting for their PC ideals of diversity and democracy hegemony in foreign lands.

    Any military draft should first induct diversity people, and diversity people should be the first soldiers to go to any front line.

    Queers such as trans-genders should be very high on any diversity military draft list.

    Diversity people should be drafted and forced to fight for their PC diversity freedoms:


    Feminist
    Queers
    Jewish
    Zionist
    Military Veterans
    Disabled
    Muslims
    Afro-Blacks
    Hispanics and Latinos
    Asians
    Crony Capitalist
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  67. Liberal Democracy: Tyranny of the majority if not minorities, limited only by a vague laundry list of selectively enforced “human rights.”

    Liberal democracy has reached its reductio ad absurdum.

    This means that the current model of “human rights” must be replaced with a single, well defined, right to vote with your feet. This right to vote with your feet necessarily implies three material rights:

    1) The material right to land.
    2) The material right to transportation.
    3) The material right to border enforcement.

    #1 is obvious since you can’t put your social theory into practice without land. #2 is also obvious as people who cannot practically relocate cannot vote with their feet.

    #3 _should_ be obvious but, due to the moral zeitgeist, it is not. Incarceration rates, particularly in the US, show us that there are two, fundamentally opposed, kinds of borders: Those that keep people out and those that keep people in. Of the two, the kind that keeps people in is least compatible with the right to vote with your feet. Even the US’s 13th Amendment to the Constitution has provision for involuntary servitude: Slavery for those imprisoned. Legalized slavery is increasing. We see a prison-industrial complex arising at the interface of government and capitalism to exploit this loophole in the 13th Amendment. The moral zeitgeist’s mandate is “let people in”. What is not admitted is this necessarily entails walls that keep people from leaving who are found to be “criminal” by the admitting society.

    The moral zeitgeist has to reconcile its moral outrage at imprisonment with its moral outrage at border controls. The only realistic answer to this is absolute enforcement of free emigration combined with absolute tolerance of restrictive immigration.

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    "Even the US’s 13th Amendment to the Constitution has provision for involuntary servitude: Slavery for those imprisoned. Legalized slavery is increasing."

    I am not aware of any (legal pursuant to 13th amendment) forced prison labor currently being practiced in the US. (a la Cool Hand Luke) There are abundant prison labor scenarios in which inmates are selectively offered the option to perform prison labor, the alternate choice being of course, rotting away in their cells and not getting some slack and "good time" from the prison staff.

    If you can provide a reference link to the contrary, I'd love to read about it.

    And in most cases, prison labor costs more to supervise and provide security for than the product is worth. In other words prison labor is a jobs program for more guards.
  68. Lurker says:
    @dcthrowback
    Real guests use the forever pool and swim-up bar.

    Exactly. The urinal is doubly redundant.

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  69. @slumber_j

    The Democrats are just too committed to crazy.
     
    That's right: it's what poker players call being "pot-committed." You've allowed the pot to grow so large without folding your increasingly obviously weak hand that from now on the only mathematically sensible move is to keep playing at the pot.

    It happens to both parties all the time, but lately the Democrats have been the more susceptible I'd say.

    This analogy only really applies to the democrats. The repukes just get the true Conservatives to pony up and up and then they fold like a cheap tent to the democrats and split the pot with them 90 – 10 (the larger share, of course, going to the demoncrats).

    But I agree that the demoncrats appear to be completely committed to absolute insanity these days.

    God Bless Trump.

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  70. Baby boomer Bruce Jenner thinks he’s a woman; baby boomer Jebby Bush thinks he’s a Mexican.

    The baby boomers are mentally deranged nutcakes.

    Must say I like the music of Van Morrison and David Byrne, though.

    David Byrne ponders World War Tranny in the song “Now I’m Your Mom” from 1992:

    He is a boy

    You are a girl

    And you will always stay that way

    But there are people

    In this world

    Who’d like to change what nature made

    And if you take that decision

    Then they will make that incision – down below

    Now I’m Your Mom by David Byrne:

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  71. WGG says:

    I’d say you got 2/3 of the equation right. The other 1/3 is pure economics. Because of the powerful people who encourage the first two (Dalrymplism, leftist fanatacism) there are economic incentives to going along with the extreme socially progressive agenda. There are also economic costs if you are seen to *not be going along with the program.

    Late stage capitalism is grotesque.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uco5Ed-5y2U#t=03m50s

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  72. @snorlax
    It's like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus' dried scrotum sweat.

    As you've observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women's-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who'd dare mock God's cotton-polyester blend.

    You seem to have an underpants fixation.

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    Seemingly, the current year fixation is: what is...or isn't...in the underpants.
  73. @Jaakko Raipala
    A better analogy would be the pagan beliefs where the world was full of easily offended unseen spirits and you had to learn their rules and tend to their needs.

    Perhaps if the village is celebrating harvest festival in your house you'd prepare an extra table for the harvest spirit just in case he knocks on your door. You probably don't actually believe the harvest spirit will show up as a guest and your guests don't believe it either but when they see the unused extra table reserved for the spirit they know you're following the same customs that they do.

    Or like the old Mexicans you could just rip the hearts out of the enemies captured in battle. Those gods are blood-thirsty and insatiable. Best not to mess with them.

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  74. snorlax says:
    @Dahlia
    I hadn't checked in with Gender Trender and some of the other gals in awhile and a lot sure had changed: "women" can proudly have penises and not even look like women anymore. Or even change their masculine name.

    At first, I though it was a one-off thing,
    https://twitter.com/evan_greer?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
    (bonus: The larger the trustfund, the bigger the protest seen in action)

    then a two-off thing,
    https://www.google.com/search?q=danielle+muscato&rlz=1C1LENN_enUS664US674&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs-sCAzKnVAhVBgj4KHe28AJIQ_AUICigB&biw=1242&bih=580

    but, no, it's a thing:
    http://www.teenvogue.com/story/how-my-beard-affects-my-gender-identity-as-a-trans-femme

    Back to the urinals, this one made threats prompting an alert earlier this month; most recent facebook posts had been about the lack of urinals in the women's rooms at Southwestern College:
    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Southwestern-College-Issues-Safety-Alert-Concerning-Potential-Threat-434104033.html

    The demented violence and threats from TransDykes (divide time between attacking Rightists and "terfs"; founder keeps a mustache) aren't a one-off, either. Twitter accounts like @exposingtrans keep very, very busy. You cannot tell the difference between the tone and nature of the threats against radfems/terfs and that that's been uttered against Trump supporters in the past year; the only difference is that they get away with it against the radfems because other liberals have their back. Radfems believe women are owed protections under the law and society by simply being women because they are weaker; that they must have separate spaces, especially when it comes to bathrooms and showers.

    You'll also learn from such accounts that women discussing menstruation or their female body parts is very triggering to transwomen, and as good allies, there has been a very strong push to end their discussion. I kid you not, and if you wondered why a few liberal organizations were starting to say things like, "people who have ovaries", this is why. There has been no similar push from "transmen", not even remotely.

    There has been no similar push from “transmen”, not even remotely.

    They’ve been fairly successfully going after Planned Parenthood and NOW for using “women’s rights” and “women’s health” to refer to abortion, since after all men can be pregnant too.

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  75. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @ic1000
    On last night's CBS Evening News, the two lead stories were on Trump's Twitter-based oppression of patriotic transgender soldiers. The pathos of the patriotic officer manfully trudging along as the voiceover recounted xir anxiety over this blatant betrayal. Followed by a cavalcade of explanations and statistics that illustrate the manifold ways in which the many trans servicepeople shoulder More Than Their Share of the Burden, and Never Complain.

    Once again, The Divide: my spouse was appalled by the injustice of it all, while I had to admire the showrunners. Rolling cameras on a moment's notice with the most attractive spokespeople for their cause. A cavalcade of compelling statistics ("less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense's healthcare costs are due to transgender issues"). Claims sure to fall apart upon inspection... the inspection that never happens.

    As the military gives transgenders the bum's rush, we should spare a thought for patriotic asthmatics, flatfoots, amputees, and blind people. CBS News won't.

    “A cavalcade of compelling statistics (“less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense’s healthcare costs are due to transgender issues”). Claims sure to fall apart upon inspection… the inspection that never happens.”

    Another technique is to assert that stats you don’t like will of course prove to be bogus … and then hope no one checks back on your assertion.

    So, you really think TG healthcare costs are a SIGNIFICANT part of the military budget?

    Is that why we haven’t won a war since Ed Wood was in the Marines?

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    So, you really think TG healthcare costs are a SIGNIFICANT part of the military budget?

     

    Why should they be any part of the military budget at all? It's the military. It's not a freaking social worker organization.
    , @The True and Original David
    "What do you mean, minorities will threaten the neighborhood? It's just one family! Do you honestly believe that one family threatens the neighborhood?"

    "What do mean, gay marriage threatens the rights of straights? How could gay marriage ever impinge on the rights of the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker?"

    "What do you mean, this immigration act will change the ethnic balance of our nation? The nation is still 90% white! Do you really believe that the low numbers of immigrants coming in now are significant?"

    "What do you mean, deregulating the financial industry would be harmful? The financial industry hasn't had any problems. Do you actually believe that dropping Glass-Steagall and a small number of other safeguards will pull down the industry?"

    "What do you mean, you won't do heroin? It's just one hit! You honestly think one hit will harm you?"
  76. Thea says:

    C’esr pour epater les bourgeoisies

    Next year they will forget this and find something more stupid or shocking to celebrate.

    Unless the food supply and entertainments run out. Only through war, famine or pestilence will they stop. They feel tingles if their superiority course through the their veins when thrust dss crap like this. That is an addictive feeling.

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  77. @snorlax
    It's like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus' dried scrotum sweat.

    As you've observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women's-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who'd dare mock God's cotton-polyester blend.

    Actually it’s threatening (if, indeed, it was a urinal) to normal women who now have to watch for the presence of men in the restrooms. No more sending in your young daughter on her own.

    I was recently at a state park in Utah and looked for a women’s room. Behold, a man exited from the door as I approached. He saw me stare and said, “can I help you with something?” I replied, with disdain, “no.” Then I realized he was an employee who had been in there cleaning. When we each understood the other we had a good laugh at the state of our crazy world.

    A local park here in Roseville has put the sign “All Genders” on their restroom doors. What this means in practice is that now the homeless guys can do drugs in both bathrooms instead of just one. It also means I won’t go there again.

    This stuff stops when women have had enough. Men don’t seem to really care. I suspect, but don’t know, that the problems the military were having were mostly related to women feeling preyed upon by male perverts.

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  78. It’s religious mania or some kind of social contagion. It doesn’t seem like that big of a deal to most adults what hysteria comes from 0.3 percent of the population but the trannie discourse has really warped young people. There are tons of teenagers dabbling in transgenderism and being “non-binary” now. I’m guessing it’s a way to get attention, and hopefully it’s just a fad. I’d imagine the problem is worse in more liberal states.

    I had a student, a biologically male student who sometimes wore makeup and carried a purse and had adapted a girly nickname, yet who did nothing else “feminine”, that was going around telling other kids he thought he was pregnant because his back hurt and he had morning sickness. For about a week a lot of students sincerely believed it too! I thought it was all a joke at first but it wasn’t. They either knew so little about biology, or they were so steeped in the “choose your gender” crap that they didn’t know better. I’m afraid to say a lot as a teacher (don’t want to get fired) but I had no issue crushing that nonsense. I told him men can’t get pregnant and to stop spreading false rumors. He whined that he “was only spreading it about himself” so what was the big deal. Anyway, thankfully he shut up and the whole issue faded away.

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  79. peterike says:
    @Anon
    "A cavalcade of compelling statistics (“less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense’s healthcare costs are due to transgender issues”). Claims sure to fall apart upon inspection… the inspection that never happens."

    Another technique is to assert that stats you don't like will of course prove to be bogus ... and then hope no one checks back on your assertion.

    So, you really think TG healthcare costs are a SIGNIFICANT part of the military budget?

    Is that why we haven't won a war since Ed Wood was in the Marines?

    So, you really think TG healthcare costs are a SIGNIFICANT part of the military budget?

    Why should they be any part of the military budget at all? It’s the military. It’s not a freaking social worker organization.

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    Why should they be any part of the military budget at all? It’s the military. It’s not a freaking social worker organization.
     
    Did you just wake up?

    EVERYTHING is now a social worker organization. Hell, colleges even admit Downs Syndrome people, and the entire Affirmative Action (for minorities AND women) is all about treating jobs, slots in education programs, etc. as collective swag to be distributed according to political considerations.

    Slots in the military are ABSOLUTELY the same.

    Note, of course, that the ostensible PURPOSE of the organization in question no longer matters. It doesn't matter if fire departments can efficiently fight fires, only that women get their fair share of the cushy jobs. It doesn't matter if the military can fight opponents, only that every weirdo gets a shot at putting on a uniform. It doesn't matter if college grads can actually DO anything useful, only that every moron gets to study his or her (or Xer) hobby, taking out six figure loans, and someone gets paid.

    We are living in a time of PROFOUND collective insanity, mostly revolving around the belief in unlimited resources. Only people who think Cargo Falls From The Sky can act as those around us do.

    This is the Age of The Cargo Cult.
    , @Brutusale
    Blame the People's Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/04/health/massachusetts-sex-change-surgery-inmate/index.html
  80. Tom Kratman (Col., retired) had the best take on all of this stuff some time ago:

    http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/12/28/politics/social-justice-armed-forces/#1

    http://www.everyjoe.com/2016/01/04/politics/social-justice-armed-forces-going-to-field/

    http://www.everyjoe.com/2016/01/11/politics/social-justice-armed-forces-going-to-war/

    A tease from part 2:

    At this point, your humble reporter from the future will interject a compressed version of part of what happened on the road march. On the captain’s order the company moved out at a reasonable pace, maybe a little slower than the normal two and a half miles an hour one might expect, but really not appreciably slower. Then, once the company had passed a bend in the road where the press couldn’t see them anymore, they stopped altogether. Why did they stop? Well, it took a little time for the women – all but a couple of the tougher ones – to empty their rucksacks, hand over the heavier bits of gear to the men, then blow up waterproof bags to give the rucks the appearance of being both full and heavy. The transfer of heavy equipment, the machine guns, radios, and chunks of mortar went quicker. When the women’s load was reduced to what they could hope to carry, usually not more than forty pounds, and the men’s load had gone up to something approaching the maximum they could hope to carry, something over one hundred and sixty pounds, the company took off again at a slightly more brisk pace, maybe three miles an hour.

    Even so…

    *****

    Ummm…that Hummer’s getting a little overloaded with fallouts, isn’t it, Top? And I note they’re all women.

    “Not all, sir; Corporal Schmidlap hurt his back trying to carry the loads of three of the mortar girls on his own. He’s in there, too.”

    Oh, right; I see the one male now. Gutsy of him to try to carry all that.

    “Not so much gutsy as horny, sir. Those three girls from the mortars will, I assure you, make it up to him in many delightful and varied ways over the next couple of weeks. Note, too, that when he fell out and got on the Hummer he took the pieces of the mortars with him.”

    I see. Hmmmm…that will make it tougher if the mortars have to do a hasty fire mission, no?

    “What’s success in battle compared to getting a favorable diversity comment on an OER, sir?”

    Good point, I suppose. Who am I to judge, anyway; I didn’t have to put up with this kind of thing when I was a company commander. Hey, what’s with that squad of men who aren’t carrying any extra gear?

    “That’s the gay squad, sir. Most units that have gays have formed one – a squad or a fire team or a tank crew or two, or maybe a gun section for the redlegs – so to speak, unofficially. They like it better that way and so do the others.”

    But why aren’t they carrying extra gear like all the straight men?

    “The captain tried to make them, after Dawn, his driver, threatened to shut him off if he wouldn’t. The gays, who have their own Zampolits, said – and this is exactly what they said; I was there: ‘Fuck off, sir; there’s nothing in it for us and we’ll go to the papers and the politicians if you try to make us.”

    “I think they had a pretty good case, myself. And Dawn wasn’t sure who would win that fight. Neither was the battalion Zampolit, von Ruggenmunschen, so they let it slide. And the gays do pull their own weight, at least, gotta give ‘em that much.”

    What about…mmm…who was it? ‘Loretta,’ who claimed to be pregnant?

    “Different case, sir, totally different; Loretta claims to be female and straight, even though physically a male. Hence we are required to treat…her…I suppose it has to be her…as what she claims to be. Thus totally different circumstances, as I’m sure you can see.

    Yes…totally different…of course.

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  81. GB506 says:

    It’s interesting to me that, when we discover frogs or fish spontaneously changing genders, ostensibly due to human pollution (hormones in urine from women on the pill making its way to streams and rivers, or pesticides/herbicides, etc.), left-leaning society collectively gasps in horror and demand a solution. But when it comes to mentally defective human beings who allege they feel they are not their biological sex, the same group demands we accept and accommodate the defect, and thereby encourage more defectives. Funny, that.

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  82. @dcthrowback
    Real guests use the forever pool and swim-up bar.

    Real guests use the forever pool and swim-up bar.

    If one wears smart clothes (nice blazer, good shoes, etc.), one can bluff one’s way into all sorts of ‘restricted’ amenities, including swim-up bars. :)

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    Wouldn't it attract attention if you were wearing a nice blazer and good shoes in the swimming pool?

    Once we were visiting Colorado Springs and one of my wife's friends had told her that we should have tea at the Broadmoor (meaning of course British style afternoon tea with crumpets and jam and sandwiches with the crust cut off, etc.). I don't know what the whole spread costs there but it's surely overpriced for what it is - I'd rather pay for a real meal with some quality protein in it than a bunch of overpriced biscuits presented on a fancy tray. How many scones can you eat?

    So we were wandering about the hotel grounds as Steve suggests and we happened to walk past a conference where they had tea and coffee set up in the lobby outside for the attendees so I grabbed a paper cup and a tea bag and filled it with hot water and handed it to my wife . Here you go, now you can tell your friend that we had "tea at the Broadmoor" . I hear about it to this day.
  83. @peterike

    So, you really think TG healthcare costs are a SIGNIFICANT part of the military budget?

     

    Why should they be any part of the military budget at all? It's the military. It's not a freaking social worker organization.

    Why should they be any part of the military budget at all? It’s the military. It’s not a freaking social worker organization.

    Did you just wake up?

    EVERYTHING is now a social worker organization. Hell, colleges even admit Downs Syndrome people, and the entire Affirmative Action (for minorities AND women) is all about treating jobs, slots in education programs, etc. as collective swag to be distributed according to political considerations.

    Slots in the military are ABSOLUTELY the same.

    Note, of course, that the ostensible PURPOSE of the organization in question no longer matters. It doesn’t matter if fire departments can efficiently fight fires, only that women get their fair share of the cushy jobs. It doesn’t matter if the military can fight opponents, only that every weirdo gets a shot at putting on a uniform. It doesn’t matter if college grads can actually DO anything useful, only that every moron gets to study his or her (or Xer) hobby, taking out six figure loans, and someone gets paid.

    We are living in a time of PROFOUND collective insanity, mostly revolving around the belief in unlimited resources. Only people who think Cargo Falls From The Sky can act as those around us do.

    This is the Age of The Cargo Cult.

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  84. @ic1000
    On last night's CBS Evening News, the two lead stories were on Trump's Twitter-based oppression of patriotic transgender soldiers. The pathos of the patriotic officer manfully trudging along as the voiceover recounted xir anxiety over this blatant betrayal. Followed by a cavalcade of explanations and statistics that illustrate the manifold ways in which the many trans servicepeople shoulder More Than Their Share of the Burden, and Never Complain.

    Once again, The Divide: my spouse was appalled by the injustice of it all, while I had to admire the showrunners. Rolling cameras on a moment's notice with the most attractive spokespeople for their cause. A cavalcade of compelling statistics ("less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense's healthcare costs are due to transgender issues"). Claims sure to fall apart upon inspection... the inspection that never happens.

    As the military gives transgenders the bum's rush, we should spare a thought for patriotic asthmatics, flatfoots, amputees, and blind people. CBS News won't.

    “As the military gives transgenders the bum’s rush, we should spare a thought for patriotic asthmatics, flatfoots, amputees, and blind people. CBS News won’t.”

    That’s exactly right, as well as people with checkered backgrounds, various mental illness, formerly visible tattoos, epileptics, pre-existing conditions such as chronic joint injuries/bad backs, shoulder dislocations, etc. I served in Iraq and when that conflict as well as Afghanistan was on and popping you can bet that the standards were lowered significantly being they needed “every swinging dick” as we would say. There were nearly 170,000 brave Americans in SW Asia Theater in 2005-06 for Christ’ sake. I saw newly enlisted 45 year old Army National Guard Privates over there as well as fat bodies, people with neck tattoos so on and so on. All these things would have been unthinkable when I enlisted in the aftermath of 9/11 and they didn’t need “E.S.D” for the Neo-cons exploratory adventures….yet. Furthermore the military has been depleted so by the Obama administration (the preferred nomenclature is “Drawn-down”) that I imagine they are picky again with who gets through MEPS unscathed. That being said I would also imagine that trans-genderism or sexual dysphoria whichever you prefer does little to help the bonds of unit cohesion and it’s presence has the potential to do lots of harm to it. So basically in a time that good kids have a hard time getting billets because of draw-downs, whats the upside to having the freaks around?

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  85. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Steve, you ask if this ladies' room installation is to humiliate our worship. Think about where your wife saw it. You were at a high-end resort, where presumably most users of those facilities would be good, nice, woke people, not ordinary schlubs.

    The urinal is therefore a sacred temple urn. It's there for the edification of the true believers, i.e. post-Christian heretics.

    The urinal is therefore a sacred temple urn.

    All women not down with men using their restrooms should leave an earthy steaming offering in the urn.

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  86. @syonredux
    Get WOKE, Steve:

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    Follow
    Myq Kaplan ✔ @myqkaplan
    trans people, you are:

    1) loved
    2) human
    3) not a burden
    4) heard
    5) seen
    6) valued
    7) so much more
    8) loved#TransRightsAreHumanRights
    2:36 PM - Jul 26, 2017
    112 112 Retweets 256 256 likes
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/trans-rights-are-human-rights/

    You are like little baby, watch this. Appropriately from a Rear Admiral and a Vice Admiral of The Queen’s Navy.

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    ..... on the same note, his surname is 'Woodcock'.
    , @peterike

    Appropriately from a Rear Admiral and a Vice Admiral of The Queen’s Navy.

     

    The Queen's Navy? Or the Navy's queens?
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    Churchill once quipped that the traditions of the Royal Navy were "Rum. Sodomy, and the Lash". Now all they've got left is Sodomy.
    , @SteveRogers42
    "Rear" and "Vice"! I get it!

    Dying is easy. It's comedy that's hard.
  87. Unbelievably, Charles Blow’s current column has the headline: “First they came for…”

    Really, Charles?

    First they came for the men who thought they were women who demanded that the Army pay for their self-mutilating surgery and said, “No thank you”…

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    First they came for the men who thought they were women who demanded that the Army pay for their self-mutilating surgery and said, “No thank you”…
     
    In the UK, the NHS recently paid for a female-to-male "transitioner" to carry a baby while she still had the parts to do so. You can imagine this would cost much more than a normal pregnancy, what with her going to war against her hormonal system.

    A few pointed out certain shortages in other areas of the NHS that could have been addressed with the funds used for this. They were told, in the polite British way of course, to STFU.
  88. CCZ says:
    @Alden
    There is also the demand that the holy trans icon of tampax Kotex vending machines be installed in men's rooms because "menstruation is a right"

    Some college trans clubs are already demanding this.

    Last night I watched Tucker Carlson. He had a dim congress critter on, a man, claiming that there are thousands of trannies serving in the military "with distinction". What's serving with distinction? Probably doing their job and not getting into trouble.

    I wish Carlson had asked the congress critter exactly how many trannies are actually in the military. Supposedly there are less than 10,000 I the whole country, so how many can there be in the military?
    Thank god Trump stopped it. Otherwise every wanna be tranny under 35 in the country would join up to get the expensive hormones and surgery to effect the change. There is also a lot of psychological treatment and anti psycho drugs involved.
    I keep wondering , what is the next liberal cause? How totally insane will it be?

    There is also the demand that the holy trans icon of tampax Kotex vending machines be installed in men’s rooms because “menstruation is a right”

    Some college trans clubs are already demanding this.

    “Powerful Photo Shows That Women Aren’t The Only Ones Who Get Periods”

    “Not all people who menstruate are women, and not all women menstruate.”

    By James Michael Nichols

    A transgender artist released a powerful photo last week in an attempt to broaden the cultural understanding of the different types of people who experience menstruation.

    Cass Clemmer, who uses they/them pronouns, posted the photo of themself on Instagram on July 12, depicting them free-bleeding while holding up a sign that reads “Periods are not just for women #BleedingWhileTrans.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cass-clemmer-trans-periods_us_597101bce4b0aa14ea78a251

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  89. Or is this some kind of religious mania?

    Two theories I’ve come across:

    1. Camille Paglia has suggested that World War T is being driven by Big Pharma, to increase the number of people having lifetime dependency on hormone supplements (or whatever it is that Ts take). This theory takes on a particularly sinister hue when one considers the push to “uncover” gender mismatches at earlier and earlier ages.

    2. During a panel discussion in the spring hosted by the Heritage Foundation, two old-school (and literally old) lesbians suggested that World War T was part of a larger, long-time effort by gay men to push lesbians into a totally passive role in the LGBT movement. The idea was that M-to-F transes are claiming the same authority as “born women” to take leadership on lesbian and feminist issues.

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    This is more conspiracy theory than is necessary. See my other post in this thread- World War T was driven by victory in World War G. Every Maoist movement needs continuous Class Struggle - the movement is like a shark that must swim forward or it will die. Since the movement was already called LGBT and the LGB's were taken care of, it was the T's turn next.
    , @Alden
    By the way, Angelina Jolie has her daughter 11 year old Shiloh on hormone therapy to prevent her developing as a girl. Angelina is just so chic and fashionable. Tattoos, black and Asian adopted kids, no natural children until 35 plus and now a girl changing into a boy.
  90. Travis says:
    @slumber_j

    The Democrats are just too committed to crazy.
     
    That's right: it's what poker players call being "pot-committed." You've allowed the pot to grow so large without folding your increasingly obviously weak hand that from now on the only mathematically sensible move is to keep playing at the pot.

    It happens to both parties all the time, but lately the Democrats have been the more susceptible I'd say.

    Democrats are bad at math…they probably do assume they are pot committed but they should know they have a losing hand and it would be prudent to fold this hand…even most democrats oppose transponders in the military, even Obama waited until he was in his last months (when it looked like rump would lose the Presidential election) before he allowed Trans people to serve in the military.

    It is notable that just 12 months ago Sen. McCain attacked Obama for allowing transgendered to serve openly in the armed forces…Sen. John McCain railed at the Obama administration for its “contempt” of Congress in keeping lawmakers in the dark about its decision to lift a ban on letting transgender troops serve in the military…”All I can say is it seems maybe their more interested in the publicity value than really getting something accomplished, because something like this will require some legislation.”

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    • Replies: @slumber_j

    It is notable that just 12 months ago Sen. McCain attacked Obama for allowing transgendered to serve openly in the armed forces…
     
    True...but of course 12 months ago it wasn't yet current year!
  91. NickG says:

    Steve, Tomorrow be imaginative purloin a ‘Being Serviced’ sign, have the wife keep people out for a few minuets, in her best cod Mexican accent, sneak in and take a massive dump in that ‘laydees’ urinal.

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  92. Dahlia says:

    The stunning increase in their getting away with lack of trying to pass as women while calling themselves women -displaying their id- is strong evidence for what the lesbians, other women, and Agnostic say points to a sexual strategy:

    Whether it is the male or female case, the latent transgender seems to be primarily driven by a paralyzing fear of approaching, interacting with, and consummating a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, as a member of their own sex. That is to say, the prospect of a male-female courtship, mating dance, etc., scares them to death. However, they are still attracted to the opposite sex and have urges to be physically intimate with the opposite sex. The only solution, to their temperament, is to approach a girl as a girl, or a guy as a guy.

    It is as though these guys think that girls will let their guard down around other girls, and (at least some of them) will be open to making out with their fellow girls, particularly if both are attractive, hormone-crazed, and novelty-seeking youngsters.

    http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2015/06/new-horizons-on-dissection-of-deviance.html

    (Another about their place on the autism spectrum: http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2015/12/star-wars-fan-service-reveals-latent.html)

    I think what the commenter said upthread about people really believing this stuff (at least the allies) is surely correct: they really believe this stuff. The principle of radical liberation and autonomy as an ultimate good is at work here.

    But, why aren’t the women believed when they say these guys perv on them, are up to no good?
    I suspect class is strongly at play here: people empathize with whomever is right in front of them and our elites are much more likely to be friends with the guy who says he will die if he can’t be in a women’s restroom than the women who that man will turn around and perv on, threaten with violence; lesbians, for example as we all know around here, are much poorer than everyone else. And guys don’t mistreat the women in their social circles, they go to the other side of town or down the class scale to do that.
    Plus, there is the age-old problem of men underestimating the depravity of a lot of men until it is pointed out by another man. Hannibal Buress speaking out against Bill Cosby and all that.

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Your post put me in mind of the lyrics to the Bloodhound Gang song "I Wish I Was Queer So I Could Get Chicks":

    Chicks dig guys that are queer
    Guys that don't dig chicks that don't dig guys like me
    See I'm not queer I'm too ugly
    But if I were handsome just imagine how great it would be
    Incognito as gay though but not actually that way though pseudo homo-phony
    Maybe it's a stupid theory or maybe just stupidity
    But if I was a queerbee in the fashion industry
    Scoring with a super model would be easy
    'Cause 'super model' means voluptuous but also is synonymous with 'super dumb'
    Ya see I'd be a good listener so she'd treat me like a sister and soon I'd become
    That trusted friend that cares that rubs her back and braids her hair
    No it wouldn't be a week before I'm in her underwear
    I wish I was queer so I could get chicks
     
  93. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous
    "...if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman."

    I thought he transitioned to being a woman, hence "Caitlyn." In which "he" should be a "she". But evidently Caitlyn isn't a "she" after all. Or is she? Or should I say "he?"

    I'm confused. Not as much as Caitlyn though. Or is it Bruce? Or...???????

    AFAIK, he hasn’t had his male reproductive organs cut off. Transitioning doesn’t include such sacrifice–it’s just one’s public presentation/appearance.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    In the ancient and honourable sport of rowing, women's 'cox less eights' are all the rage.
    , @Alden
    They only cut off the balls. The penis is hollowed out and then shoved up in the groin between 2 muscles. Then dilators are inserted to create a hole lined with the skin of the penis. Various problems occur. One is that hair grows between the muscles and the penis skin and it itches
  94. @Dahlia
    The stunning increase in their getting away with lack of trying to pass as women while calling themselves women -displaying their id- is strong evidence for what the lesbians, other women, and Agnostic say points to a sexual strategy:

    Whether it is the male or female case, the latent transgender seems to be primarily driven by a paralyzing fear of approaching, interacting with, and consummating a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, as a member of their own sex. That is to say, the prospect of a male-female courtship, mating dance, etc., scares them to death. However, they are still attracted to the opposite sex and have urges to be physically intimate with the opposite sex. The only solution, to their temperament, is to approach a girl as a girl, or a guy as a guy.

    It is as though these guys think that girls will let their guard down around other girls, and (at least some of them) will be open to making out with their fellow girls, particularly if both are attractive, hormone-crazed, and novelty-seeking youngsters.
     
    http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2015/06/new-horizons-on-dissection-of-deviance.html
    (Another about their place on the autism spectrum: http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2015/12/star-wars-fan-service-reveals-latent.html)

    I think what the commenter said upthread about people really believing this stuff (at least the allies) is surely correct: they really believe this stuff. The principle of radical liberation and autonomy as an ultimate good is at work here.

    But, why aren't the women believed when they say these guys perv on them, are up to no good?
    I suspect class is strongly at play here: people empathize with whomever is right in front of them and our elites are much more likely to be friends with the guy who says he will die if he can't be in a women's restroom than the women who that man will turn around and perv on, threaten with violence; lesbians, for example as we all know around here, are much poorer than everyone else. And guys don't mistreat the women in their social circles, they go to the other side of town or down the class scale to do that.
    Plus, there is the age-old problem of men underestimating the depravity of a lot of men until it is pointed out by another man. Hannibal Buress speaking out against Bill Cosby and all that.

    Your post put me in mind of the lyrics to the Bloodhound Gang song “I Wish I Was Queer So I Could Get Chicks”:

    Chicks dig guys that are queer
    Guys that don’t dig chicks that don’t dig guys like me
    See I’m not queer I’m too ugly
    But if I were handsome just imagine how great it would be
    Incognito as gay though but not actually that way though pseudo homo-phony
    Maybe it’s a stupid theory or maybe just stupidity
    But if I was a queerbee in the fashion industry
    Scoring with a super model would be easy
    ‘Cause ‘super model’ means voluptuous but also is synonymous with ‘super dumb’
    Ya see I’d be a good listener so she’d treat me like a sister and soon I’d become
    That trusted friend that cares that rubs her back and braids her hair
    No it wouldn’t be a week before I’m in her underwear
    I wish I was queer so I could get chicks

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  95. Can’t wait to read all the comments but urinals are always out in the open, maybe with a side wall or two. Women are not used to seeing others pee or poo. Wait until you see someone using a urinal as a toilet, as in taking a dump. Diversity and third world immigrants, why even have bathrooms. Give me a tree to pee on or a bush to squat behind. We are going backwards at a blistering pace.

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  96. Forbes says:
    @PSR
    On a not entirely unrelated topic: Over many years I have driven the West Virginia Turnpike many, many times; say one hundred or more. There is a rest area just south of the first tollbooth that is always packed with cars and trucks. The men's room had 4-5 toilets and 4-5 urinals. I just stopped there for the first time since last summer and the restroom has been totally rebuilt and the new men's room has 4-5 stalls but no urinals. I've never seen a men's room with no urinals but now - thanks WV Turnpike - long lines of men waiting to pee in the toilets. And the toilets flush automatically so they are constantly flushing. Heck of a waste of water.
    I can't even imagine the reasoning.

    NYC passed a building code law several years ago, for the purposes of equality, mandating men’s and women’s rooms to have the same number of porcelain appliances. So, in the past, the lavatory footprint would largely be the same, with a men’s room containing four urinals hung on the wall opposite four stalls, while the women’s room has four stalls, foregoing the urinals. Such an approach entitles the women to eight porcelain appliances. To accommodate such a building requirement, the floorplan footprint must change, e.g. to accommodate six stalls for women and three stalls and three urinals for men (or similar configuration).

    Perhaps WV has done something similar, and ‘equalized’ by eliminating the urinals. Women are often complaining of their lavatory wait times–and TPTB have decided turnabout is fair play.

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  97. Forbes says:
    @Charlotte Allen
    You seem to have an underpants fixation.

    Seemingly, the current year fixation is: what is…or isn’t…in the underpants.

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  98. Ivy says:
    @Anonymous
    "She emerged from the ladies’ room to report a newly installed urinal."

    I suspect this is more for virtue signalling, showing that the resort is,"on the right side of history", rather than having something installed which will have much use (if any).

    Libtardianism sells well among upper and upper middle class whites.

    Urinals in the ladies room may also serve the long-suffering GoGirl crowd. Who knew that they finally get to take the piss out of all those I displayed virtues in conventional facilities!

    https://www.target.com/p/gogirl-female-urination-device-45-khaki/-/A-12892211

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  99. My university had a minor ruckus 10 or 15 years ago because they were installing urinals in the newer bathrooms for women. Students wondered why the school was wasting money.

    I recall the administration said it was actually for the convenience of people with certain handicaps.

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  100. sabril says:
    @inertial
    Dalrymple has no clue. The rule of thumb is, if people are passionate about something then they really believe it. And if they really believe it and also lack a certain level of empathy they will think that everyone else in the world secretly believes the same thing. Their opponents don't just happen to have different beliefs, they deny the obvious truth because they are evil.

    This describes SJW and anti-SJW, communists and anticommunists, religious people and atheists, and so on.

    The rule of thumb is, if people are passionate about something then they really believe it

    Nobody really believes that races are equal in intelligence and criminality; that all religions are equally destructive; that global warming disaster is just around the corner; that there is a rape epidemic on college campuses; or any of the other Leftist nonsense which has been pushed on us for many years now.

    This is obvious from looking at peoples’ personal decisions in terms of where to live; how to behave; how to invest; and what principles to compromise on. Would liberals accept an immigration moratorium in exchange for strict regulations on carbon emissions? If they seriously believed in their global warming claptrap, they would jump at such a deal. But of course they don’t and they wouldn’t.

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    • Replies: @inertial
    See, you are doing this too. You think you caught these people in a contradiction but they don't have to agree with you. As they see it, they have perfectly good reasons for the things they do. You may call these reasons "rationalization," but for these people they are not only reasonable, they are obvious.

    Take, for example, decision where to live. The leftists never think of themselves as seeking out specifically white neighborhoods. These places just happened to fit their criteria, such as "good schools," or the diverse restaurants scene, or bike paths, etc. They'd be happy if their neighbors were minorities but unfortunately there are none available. Why? Because of red lining, of course. Also because minorities are so poor that they cannot afford to buy a house in that neighborhood, and it goes without saying that that they are poor only due to systemic racism.

    So, in the final analysis, the libs are forced to live in whitopias only due to racists like you.
    , @Jack D
    Yes, the key is revealed preference -the way people actually act, not what they say. Talk is cheap if you don't have to walk the walk. Do you judge child molesting priests by the platitudes that they mouth from the pulpit or by what they actually do to little boys in the back room? These priests even believe what they are saying, they just rationalize that it somehow doesn't apply to them, just like Al Gore can fly around the world on a private jet and live in a 10,000 s.f. house but preach to us about global warming.
  101. @DWright
    I slept in my car in a 5 star hotel parking lot in San Diego once.
    Drove around for four hours at night looking for a room, all were gone.
    Figured sleep in the best lot at least.

    On the tranny stuff, when did the memo go out that this was normal or acceptable? Or is it like Sobran referred to, the hive mentality. They are pushing every odious law and culture abomination until the necessary backlash occurs. I hope Trump's recent push back is the start.

    The LG in LGBT did so much damage to cultural conservatism that trannies got a fast-pass to full normalcy. The defensive line was broken.

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  102. Had to “speed-skim” the 70, so apologies if others have touched on this, but was she sure it was new?

    There are at least two previous periods where “urinals” were installed in women’s rooms, explicitly for women. Unca’ Cec from the Straight Dope found a period in the Thirties when they did it for “hygiene” (or such was the rationale at the time). Also, there was a period in the Nineties, especially in deep blue areas, where it was kind of a “grrrrl power” thing/accommodation to dykes (their term, not mine). I remember going to a place in Northampton, Mass., with just one restroom, Ally McBeal-style, that had two urinals, one of each… wacky time and place.

    Most of the ones that were installed for actual XX-chromosome women have more of a protrusion away from the wall than the stand-up men’s ones …

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  103. Jack D says:
    @AM

    It’s like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.
     
    Go ahead. Keep tearing down Christianity. Medieval Europeans didn't believe in witches, understood the need to be married and stay that way, and certainly would have laughed at Bruce Jenner in a dress.

    We need to stop pretending we're more advanced the those stupid Christians in the past. I get this might have been a joke, but it's time to lay down this infernal modern arrogance on the point.

    The transgender stuff is maybe not the sign of the Apocalypse but it is the sign of a society in serious social decay. This happened too, at the end of Rome and Greece. Whoever we are in comparison to the past, we are not smarter or more sophisticated. Right now my WWII Grandmother with the 8th grade education who spied on her neighbors is starting to look like a genius.

    Medieval Europeans didn’t believe in witches

    Are you sure about that?

    Generally speaking, Christianity was an improvement over paganism – no more Gladiator fights, no more human sacrifice, etc. However, there is no doubt that certain aspects of Medieval Christianity were not particularly Christian – Jesus (if he was around) would have been the first to say that making a big deal about bits of wood from the True Cross or the Holy Foreskin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce

    was really missing the point of what he was trying to teach.

    At its best, religion distinguishes us from the lower animals but at its weakest it exploits certain flaws in human software – for example the idea that the magnificent spirit of certain humans or beasts attaches to pieces of them or objects that have touched them or to certain places and that if you can possess or even touch a bit of those then the greatness will in turn rub off on you. This idea is held not just by (parts of) Christianity but also by many primitive religions, modern Leftism (see Magic Dirt) being one of them.

    The whole tranny thing was a result of the Left winning World War G. Never in history has any fund raising or political apparatus declared victory and gone home. The March of Dimes was created to cure polio but when polio was cured they did not disband – they just found more diseases to cure so that the fund raisers could keep their jobs and nice offices. Every political movement needs a bloody shirt to wave, something to excite the base. Once World War G was won, they had to find a new frontier and Trannies were it. Admittedly kind of slim pickings – all the low hanging fruit was gone. But better than nothing. Had Hillary won, World War T would have also been won and they would have had to find something else (what would it have been?). But since Trump won, the Left will dine out on World War T a bit longer. Fund raising emails are going out to the base by the millions at this very minute.

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    Christianity was an improvement over paganism – no more Gladiator fights, no more human sacrifice
     
    The Roman Empire certainly featured a lot of cruelty and brutality, but it didn't practice human sacrifice; in fact the Romans claimed it showed how civilized they were that they had forbidden the druids in Gaul from continuing their human sacrifices...human sacrifice was seen as a repellent practice barbarians did. A few human sacrifices had still happened during the 2nd Punic war (iirc some Greeks and Gauls were buried alive in Rome), but by the imperial era human sacrifice wasn't practiced anymore.
    , @AM

    Are you sure about that?
     
    Yes. Witches do not reappear as concept until the Renaissance and mostly by northern Protestants reeling from the Reformation, although there is some further south at about that time.

    Medieval Europe knew there was no such thing as a witch. But don't have to take my word for it. Look up the timelines yourself.


    However, there is no doubt that certain aspects of Medieval Christianity were not particularly Christian – Jesus (if he was around) would have been the first to say that making a big deal about bits of wood from the True Cross or the Holy Foreskin
     
    And? Christianity says every human is fallen. If we weren't all fallen, why the need for a savior? Christ's sacrifice is to cover sins just like those. We all attempt to not be that to follow in his foot steps, but we will fail.

    Also, you've really misunderstood Christ if you think that superstition was high the list of issues. It hardly even registers in the pantheon of sin. I'm not sure you're really in position to judge what he was trying to teach.


    At its best, religion distinguishes us from the lower animals but at its weakest it exploits certain flaws in human software –
     
    I see you're holding onto the view we are not really fallen, even has you acknowledge it. Religion was never a panacea. But people without religion believe themselves to be good. They will re-fashion their mirror into the Divine. That's the weakness in the software that atheism exploits.

    for example the idea that the magnificent spirit of certain humans or beasts attaches to pieces of them or objects that have touched them or to certain places and that if you can possess or even touch a bit of those then the greatness will in turn rub off on you.
     

    This quite an extraordinary assertion. Do you have any hard proof that it does not work? At any rate, if the unwillingness to be a strict materialist is a sin, it's news to me. I thought violating the 10 Commandments was much, much worse on any day of the week.

    The whole tranny thing was a result of the Left winning World War G.
     
    You lost me with this paragraph. The whole tranny thing is a result of the loss of the Divine in the West. The Divine is now who is in the mirror. And gods can change the universe with just the power of their mind.
    , @qtl
    Medieval Europeans *literally* didn't believe in witches. It was part of canon law and the Carolingian law that no such thing as witchcraft existed. Accusing someone of witchcraft was, iirc, a crime in many jurisdictions.

    This began to change after the 1300s as the Dominicans began seeking wider inquisitorial powers for use against Cathars and Waldensians, eventually including witchcraft prosecutions (there was a papal bull in 1467 or so to this effect, which the civil authorities mostly ignored due to the old consensus that witches didn't exist, but by 1550 witch-hunts were going on all over Europe).
  104. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @YetAnotherAnon
    You are like little baby, watch this. Appropriately from a Rear Admiral and a Vice Admiral of The Queen's Navy.

    https://twitter.com/RAdmAlexBurton/status/890255337533702145

    https://twitter.com/VAdmJWoodcock/status/890257164060774406

    ….. on the same note, his surname is ‘Woodcock’.

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    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    Yes, maybe Jonathan started out as Joanne and has a prosthetic willy to match the name.

    Re anonymous 108, this was the stuff of self-evidently ridiculous satire forty years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

    JackD - in the UK, Broadmoor is a psychiatric prison where some of the UKs most notorious murderers are sent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadmoor_Hospital

  105. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Continuing with theme of middle-class Oxbridge educated male Anglo-Saxon prophets of the 21st century, even the Monty Python team in their most demented depths of absurdity cannot possibly match the insanity of today's Economist/EU political orthodoxy.

    Did you ever see that sketch from the very first 1971 Monty Python movie in which the Pythons enact a very camp British Army battalion mincing through their military drill?

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Did you ever see that sketch from the very first 1971 Monty Python movie in which the Pythons enact a very camp British Army battalion mincing through their military drill?
     
    Dig up that National Lampoon camp classic from the same era, "Dixie Nixon". The White House was practically a bathhouse. Complete with an "enema's list".
    , @SteveRogers42
    At the time, a farce. Today, public policy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI
  106. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Forbes
    AFAIK, he hasn't had his male reproductive organs cut off. Transitioning doesn't include such sacrifice--it's just one's public presentation/appearance.

    In the ancient and honourable sport of rowing, women’s ‘cox less eights’ are all the rage.

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    I know of a female to male trans who cared about nothing except the operation. "Someday "she said, "I'll have that addadictomy!"
  107. Ivy says:
    @The Millennial Falcon
    The LG in LGBT did so much damage to cultural conservatism that trannies got a fast-pass to full normalcy. The defensive line was broken.

    They broke the seal?

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  108. @snorlax
    It's like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus' dried scrotum sweat.

    As you've observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women's-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who'd dare mock God's cotton-polyester blend.

    The weird thing about adding urinals is that people can use sit-down toilets — with greater privacy — regardless of their plumbing, and all male and female bathrooms already come so-equipped, and using the sit-down toilets never arouses any suspicions, controversy or unwanted attention (but, of course, they WANT the attention, don’t they?). As you say, it’s just symbolism — Dalrympian boot-on-face symbolism, to be sure.

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  109. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. The media can react fast. Check out this article. The Hill shows a picture of a pilot but turns out that the transgender is a staff sergeant.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/transgender-airman-i-would-like-to-see-them-try-to-kick-me-out-of-my-military/ar-AAoSHDK?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    Also, where the hell does this 15,500 serving transgender members of the military come from?

    There's no chance on this planet that there are ~15,000 transgender military personnel.

    “Transgender airman: ‘I would like to see them try to kick me out of my military’”

    Trump: Challenge accepted.

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  110. Thirdtwin says:

    Installing these urinals is the sort of shovel-ready job Obama envisioned. Those and the hoists at poolside for the disabled. It’s all to mollify the inspectors. While I can’t speak about the urinals in the ladies room, I will note that the pool derricks are getting smaller, less obtrusive and probably less functional as the years go by. I expect the same evolution of urinals in ladies rooms; Eventually, they will become no-flush(green!), disposable shells filled with diaper batting, and stuck to the wall with an adhesive backing. As no one will actually use them, the stick-on urinals should last until the idiocy passes. Yankee ingenuity is how we keep the boot from stomping us.

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  111. Jack D says:
    @AM

    Reproduction and sex are important religious themes. It used to be socially advisable to believe in a virgin birth, but now it’s necessary to attest that you believe that if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman.
     
    Sex and reproduction are important religious themes because they're as close to God as we'll ever come to be. Mixed in with a dash of hedonism for good measure, because on this planet, the joke is us. :)

    Keep what's in your pants under control and you'll go a long way to having a great life in this one, let alone in the next one.

    We also need miracles. We need something more than our routine, mundane lives. I confess it took a long time after going back to church to believe in the virgin birth again. But the God who makes the rules of sex can break them, too.

    It seems wholly better for everyone to believe exactly one blessed woman was willing to become a mother without the fun than to discard that as impossible and backward and "puritanical". Look how quickly we've devolved into a puritanical belief about the truly impossible and insane.

    It seems wholly better for everyone to believe exactly one blessed woman was willing to become a mother without the fun

    I’m not so sure about that….. I understand that we are all better off if we all pretend there is some Big Guy in the sky watching our every move and who will make us pay for eternity if we make a wrong one. Even if this is not true, it’s a highly useful fiction.

    But I don’t see why virgin birth is really a necessary element of Christianity (let alone for “everyone”). It was only mentioned a couple of times in the New Testament and in only 2 of the gospels and apparently was not a big deal for at least the first couple of centuries of Christianity. It strikes me as one of those elements that got played up later in order to make Christianity more sellable to pagans – this Jesus guy was not just a great moral teacher but he had heap big magic too – virgin birth, died and came back to life, revived the dead, etc.. Jupiter and Apollo have nothing on Him. The early evangelists were selling a product to a skeptical audience. It was a good product but any salesman is apt to exaggerate the features of the product in order to make the sale.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    You're right. Zeus and the other male gods of various pagan religions had a lot of children with human women.

    I think Sargon the great was one of those children.
    , @Tracy
    It was a matter of prophecy and there were types of it in the Old Testament all along. Christ and Mary poetically mirror Adam and Eve, for ex., in being born without original sin. Look at the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament and parallel it with Mary (see this page for more about that: http://www.fisheaters.com/mary.html.
    , @AM

    I understand that we are all better off if we all pretend there is some Big Guy in the sky watching our every move and who will make us pay for eternity if we make a wrong one. Even if this is not true, it’s a highly useful fiction.
     
    It would really help if y'all got the theology right. People were never this stupid about their religion, even before Christianity. It's easy to be atheist when what you've got in your head is a child's cartoon of God, rather than the adult version.

    The adult version of judgement is a bit more like the Charles Dickens imagined it In a Christmas Carol, as in the creation or removal of chains around your soul. It's observable in the lives of people, if you pay attention. People, as they grow, either towards the Divine or towards evil will either gain peace or they will flail around in increasing internal torment. It just happens as function of time. In complex theology, people fall into Hell, from the sheer weight of their souls. The judgement is a shorthand way to think about it and in the moment you might need such a concept.

    The adult version of God is either the Judaic one, who is way more complex than some Big Guy in the sky or the Christian one, which covers every part of Divine experience - The Father (the Creator of life, not a dude in the sky), The Son (the power of sacrifice, the fallen nature of the world), and Holy Spirit - the feelings of nature and people around us having a sense of the Divine. It's Holy Mystery of The Trinity - not Santa Claus.

    But I don’t see why virgin birth is really a necessary element of Christianity (let alone for “everyone”).
     
    Tracey covered it well from one perspective, let me you give another angle. The only way The Son of God could be The Son of God is if he had no human father. Christ is both fully divine and fully human and it's not possible if he was conceived the normal way. Not only will the Son of God have power over death through resurrection, he must actually physically begotten, not made.

    But even if you don't believe any of that, the concept of Mary's sacrifice is critical. She is the model for sacrificial Motherhood - of a women not given to hedonism. I've read feminist critics and they're all garbage. Mary takes every risk for her son, and knowing she would be at the foot of the Cross to lose him there - and she does it anyway without even once asking for pleasure for herself.

    In age lost to hedonism and specifically female hedonism, why wouldn't you want her as role model for every woman you met?
    , @Thea
    If you are really interested, there are online New Testaments. Christianity is a pretty simple religion:

    A man free of sin died in your place. Everyone else was born a sinner. Virgin birth just helps showcase His purity. He was born of a woman just like us so we can relate to Him but also not like us at all in His holiness.
  112. @Achilles
    Before long, unwillingness to believe that Bruce Jenner is a woman will be considered a mental illness, a psychological disorder, a delusion.

    Hollywood will get on board. The Rock will play a transgender woman in a new movie "G.I. Jolene," in which he undergoes a grueling BUD/S selection program while wearing high heels and at the same time overcoming bigotry from cis redneck fellow SEAL candidates. In a climactic scene, the Rock saves the most bigoted member of the class from drowning during a particularly brutal training exercise, followed later by a romantic encounter between the two. Before they are able to finish their training, the team of SEAL candidates is called into emergency service in the Persian Gulf where the Rock saves the entire team from almost certain death by using explosives stored in his bra.

    Academic research studies will prove that those laboring under the delusion that Bruce Jenner is a man are less intelligent and more superstitious than the rest of the population.

    All of this will be in the service of Science, because of course Science compels the conclusion that Bruce Jenner is a woman. Deniers will be considered as denying Science itself, and denying Science is to attack the set of values by which our civilization determines the proper standards of human behavior.

    Naturally, none of this will be applied to Muslims, because it would be racist to do so.

    The Rock will play a transgender woman in a new movie “G.I. Jolene,”

    Arnold beat him to it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110216/

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  113. L Woods says:
    @syonredux
    Get WOKE, Steve:

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    Follow
    Myq Kaplan ✔ @myqkaplan
    trans people, you are:

    1) loved
    2) human
    3) not a burden
    4) heard
    5) seen
    6) valued
    7) so much more
    8) loved#TransRightsAreHumanRights
    2:36 PM - Jul 26, 2017
    112 112 Retweets 256 256 likes
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/trans-rights-are-human-rights/

    Recruits with color blindness or childhood ADD however, are none of those things. Insufficient Pokemon points for the circus freakshow.

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  114. peterike says:
    @Anonymous
    Is that somebody's application essay for Stanford?

    I took a peek at 'The Mary Sue' website. It looks pretty sweet - a nice mix of geek/pop culture with radical feminist and transsexual flair. The world has been waiting for this far too long.

    I think the founder - Dan Abrams - has got a winner on his hands.

    I took a peek at ‘The Mary Sue’ website. It looks pretty sweet.

    I posted some real-talk over there once. I was banned the same day as I made my first comments.

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  115. inertial says:
    @sabril

    The rule of thumb is, if people are passionate about something then they really believe it
     
    Nobody really believes that races are equal in intelligence and criminality; that all religions are equally destructive; that global warming disaster is just around the corner; that there is a rape epidemic on college campuses; or any of the other Leftist nonsense which has been pushed on us for many years now.

    This is obvious from looking at peoples' personal decisions in terms of where to live; how to behave; how to invest; and what principles to compromise on. Would liberals accept an immigration moratorium in exchange for strict regulations on carbon emissions? If they seriously believed in their global warming claptrap, they would jump at such a deal. But of course they don't and they wouldn't.

    See, you are doing this too. You think you caught these people in a contradiction but they don’t have to agree with you. As they see it, they have perfectly good reasons for the things they do. You may call these reasons “rationalization,” but for these people they are not only reasonable, they are obvious.

    Take, for example, decision where to live. The leftists never think of themselves as seeking out specifically white neighborhoods. These places just happened to fit their criteria, such as “good schools,” or the diverse restaurants scene, or bike paths, etc. They’d be happy if their neighbors were minorities but unfortunately there are none available. Why? Because of red lining, of course. Also because minorities are so poor that they cannot afford to buy a house in that neighborhood, and it goes without saying that that they are poor only due to systemic racism.

    So, in the final analysis, the libs are forced to live in whitopias only due to racists like you.

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    Occasionally they will live in diverse areas on purpose, in parts of NYC for example. One thing rich liberals will never do is send their kids into the military.

    That is for poor uneducated whites. And minorities and deviants, who are to be protected from the non-deviant whites who see them as a distraction.

    For all their clucking about George Bush's warmongering, they we fine with sending the hoi polloi to die for Obama's lost causes.
    , @sabril

    You think you caught these people in a contradiction but they don’t have to agree with you. As they see it, they have perfectly good reasons for the things they do.
     
    Just because they believe themselves to be reasonable doesn't make it so. I believe X; they believe Y; we both think we are right, but I am right and they are wrong.

    How can an outsider tell the difference? My beliefs are falsifiable. If the IQ gap closes by 50% or so over the next 20 years, I will start to doubt my position. If it closes by 100% then I will admit I am probably wrong. By contrast, if the IQ gaps stays in place, the other side will still insist they are right. There is literally no evidence which would change their minds. And that's the difference.

    Same thing with global warming -- if the warmistas start making actual predictions which are specific, interesting, bona fide, and accurate, I will revisit my skepticism. But for the warmistas, there is literally nothing that could happen which would shake their beliefs.
  116. res says:
    @THF
    The most likely scenario is that the resort is converting its restrooms from single-sex to non-gender specific to avoid disputes over transgender guests.

    That kind of makes sense. I was trying to figure out how even women who are OK with a penis in the ladies’ room would want it to be wielded out in the (relative) open at a urinal rather than behind a closed stall door. I suppose another possible explanation is minimizing the impact of aiming issues on the toilets.

    P.S. iSteve, any details on how the urinal was positioned? Out in the open, behind a door, in or out of the primary traffic pattern…?

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  117. Brutusale says:
    @peterike

    So, you really think TG healthcare costs are a SIGNIFICANT part of the military budget?

     

    Why should they be any part of the military budget at all? It's the military. It's not a freaking social worker organization.
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  118. res says:
    @pedro
    I have to say all this restroom furor is silly. Public bathrooms are simply becoming unisex. It allows for more efficient distribution of resources at times of peak use. And they have not ended civilization in Europe.

    The problem is, unisex bathrooms are not more efficient in all ways. The men’s room layout with multiple urinals and stalls is much more space efficient. Even the women’s room layout with only stalls is more space efficient than individual unisex bathrooms. And in my experience the individual unisex bathrooms exacerbate the problem of people using bathrooms for drug use, “showering”, etc.

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    Even the women’s room layout with only stalls is more space efficient than individual unisex bathrooms.
     
    I miss those wonderfully inefficient front lounges that department stores used to offer their patronesses in the little girls' room. And I wasn't even allowed to use them.
  119. Jack D says:
    @ic1000
    On last night's CBS Evening News, the two lead stories were on Trump's Twitter-based oppression of patriotic transgender soldiers. The pathos of the patriotic officer manfully trudging along as the voiceover recounted xir anxiety over this blatant betrayal. Followed by a cavalcade of explanations and statistics that illustrate the manifold ways in which the many trans servicepeople shoulder More Than Their Share of the Burden, and Never Complain.

    Once again, The Divide: my spouse was appalled by the injustice of it all, while I had to admire the showrunners. Rolling cameras on a moment's notice with the most attractive spokespeople for their cause. A cavalcade of compelling statistics ("less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense's healthcare costs are due to transgender issues"). Claims sure to fall apart upon inspection... the inspection that never happens.

    As the military gives transgenders the bum's rush, we should spare a thought for patriotic asthmatics, flatfoots, amputees, and blind people. CBS News won't.

    A cavalcade of compelling statistics (“less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense’s healthcare costs are due to transgender issues”)

    This is the usual statistilying – the DOD’s healthcare budget is a gazillion $, so 0.1% of some very large # is still a tidy sum. The # of trannies in the Army is still pretty small. Why don’t they mention the cost PER TRANNIE instead of the % of the military budget. What if we learned that the military was spending over $100,0oo of our hard earned money to transform each Bradley into a Chelsea at taxpayer expense? How would the viewers of CBS News feel about that statistic? What if we got to learn the details of what was involved – how Uncle Sam is paying for electrolysis on every hair in his beard so that Chelsea doesn’t have a five o’clock shadow marring xer beauty. How every trannie needs a taxpayer paid shrink session every week to talk him thru the process. How would that go down with some small businessman struggling to get by and burdened by Federal taxes, to know that’s where his tax dollars are being spent?

    http://time.com/money/4092680/transgender-surgery-costs/

    Knowing the great efficiency with which our military operates, it wouldn’t surprise me if it is was even more.

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    I don't think they need electrolysis. I think the estrogen and other hormones make body and face hair drop out naturally.

    Interesting that just as men are demanding massive doses of estrogen and other female hormones, doctors have stopped giving estrogen treatments to women for menopause because the consensus is that hormone therapy causes cancer. So now we'll have to pay for their cancer treatments as well as lifelong hormones.
  120. Alden says:
    @JimB
    I can't understand why woman haven't spoken with a unified voice against permitting female imposters from using women's bathrooms. Men are slobs, and men's bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.

    No matter how you shake and dance the last drop ends up in your pants, and the other 10 drops end up on the floor.

    It’s probably because even though bathrooms have both signs on then, men and women still use different bathrooms.

    What a petty, silly, farcical cause. And look how easily the lunatics achieve their goals thanks to the courts. I keep wondering what’s next.

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  121. peterike says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    You are like little baby, watch this. Appropriately from a Rear Admiral and a Vice Admiral of The Queen's Navy.

    https://twitter.com/RAdmAlexBurton/status/890255337533702145

    https://twitter.com/VAdmJWoodcock/status/890257164060774406

    Appropriately from a Rear Admiral and a Vice Admiral of The Queen’s Navy.

    The Queen’s Navy? Or the Navy’s queens?

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  122. @dc.sunsets

    Why should they be any part of the military budget at all? It’s the military. It’s not a freaking social worker organization.
     
    Did you just wake up?

    EVERYTHING is now a social worker organization. Hell, colleges even admit Downs Syndrome people, and the entire Affirmative Action (for minorities AND women) is all about treating jobs, slots in education programs, etc. as collective swag to be distributed according to political considerations.

    Slots in the military are ABSOLUTELY the same.

    Note, of course, that the ostensible PURPOSE of the organization in question no longer matters. It doesn't matter if fire departments can efficiently fight fires, only that women get their fair share of the cushy jobs. It doesn't matter if the military can fight opponents, only that every weirdo gets a shot at putting on a uniform. It doesn't matter if college grads can actually DO anything useful, only that every moron gets to study his or her (or Xer) hobby, taking out six figure loans, and someone gets paid.

    We are living in a time of PROFOUND collective insanity, mostly revolving around the belief in unlimited resources. Only people who think Cargo Falls From The Sky can act as those around us do.

    This is the Age of The Cargo Cult.

    Damn, that was well said.

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  123. Jack D says:
    @Clark Westwood

    Or is this some kind of religious mania?
     
    Two theories I've come across:

    1. Camille Paglia has suggested that World War T is being driven by Big Pharma, to increase the number of people having lifetime dependency on hormone supplements (or whatever it is that Ts take). This theory takes on a particularly sinister hue when one considers the push to "uncover" gender mismatches at earlier and earlier ages.

    2. During a panel discussion in the spring hosted by the Heritage Foundation, two old-school (and literally old) lesbians suggested that World War T was part of a larger, long-time effort by gay men to push lesbians into a totally passive role in the LGBT movement. The idea was that M-to-F transes are claiming the same authority as "born women" to take leadership on lesbian and feminist issues.

    This is more conspiracy theory than is necessary. See my other post in this thread- World War T was driven by victory in World War G. Every Maoist movement needs continuous Class Struggle – the movement is like a shark that must swim forward or it will die. Since the movement was already called LGBT and the LGB’s were taken care of, it was the T’s turn next.

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  124. @James Bowery
    Liberal Democracy: Tyranny of the majority if not minorities, limited only by a vague laundry list of selectively enforced "human rights."

    Liberal democracy has reached its reductio ad absurdum.

    This means that the current model of “human rights” must be replaced with a single, well defined, right to vote with your feet. This right to vote with your feet necessarily implies three material rights:

    1) The material right to land.
    2) The material right to transportation.
    3) The material right to border enforcement.

    #1 is obvious since you can’t put your social theory into practice without land. #2 is also obvious as people who cannot practically relocate cannot vote with their feet.

    #3 _should_ be obvious but, due to the moral zeitgeist, it is not. Incarceration rates, particularly in the US, show us that there are two, fundamentally opposed, kinds of borders: Those that keep people out and those that keep people in. Of the two, the kind that keeps people in is least compatible with the right to vote with your feet. Even the US’s 13th Amendment to the Constitution has provision for involuntary servitude: Slavery for those imprisoned. Legalized slavery is increasing. We see a prison-industrial complex arising at the interface of government and capitalism to exploit this loophole in the 13th Amendment. The moral zeitgeist’s mandate is “let people in”. What is not admitted is this necessarily entails walls that keep people from leaving who are found to be “criminal” by the admitting society.

    The moral zeitgeist has to reconcile its moral outrage at imprisonment with its moral outrage at border controls. The only realistic answer to this is absolute enforcement of free emigration combined with absolute tolerance of restrictive immigration.

    “Even the US’s 13th Amendment to the Constitution has provision for involuntary servitude: Slavery for those imprisoned. Legalized slavery is increasing.”

    I am not aware of any (legal pursuant to 13th amendment) forced prison labor currently being practiced in the US. (a la Cool Hand Luke) There are abundant prison labor scenarios in which inmates are selectively offered the option to perform prison labor, the alternate choice being of course, rotting away in their cells and not getting some slack and “good time” from the prison staff.

    If you can provide a reference link to the contrary, I’d love to read about it.

    And in most cases, prison labor costs more to supervise and provide security for than the product is worth. In other words prison labor is a jobs program for more guards.

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  125. pgbh says:

    Has anyone else noticed that Steve’s writing has become much more polemical in, roughly, the last year?

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    Yes. He should leave the attitudinalizing to us. It isn't his unique selling feature.
  126. Alden says:
    @anonymous
    Baby changing stations have been in many men's rooms for years now. Presumably there was a grass-roots demand for this so that men could do their share. For some strange reason they don't seem to be in use much and most appear to be in disrepair were someone to actually bother to check.

    Those men’s room changing tables were the result of a class action law suit.

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  127. @YetAnotherAnon
    You are like little baby, watch this. Appropriately from a Rear Admiral and a Vice Admiral of The Queen's Navy.

    https://twitter.com/RAdmAlexBurton/status/890255337533702145

    https://twitter.com/VAdmJWoodcock/status/890257164060774406

    Churchill once quipped that the traditions of the Royal Navy were “Rum. Sodomy, and the Lash”. Now all they’ve got left is Sodomy.

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    LOL
    , @SteveRogers42
    I dunno...there's probably a few opportunities to use the lash under these thircumstances...
  128. Jack D says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Real guests use the forever pool and swim-up bar.
     
    If one wears smart clothes (nice blazer, good shoes, etc.), one can bluff one’s way into all sorts of ‘restricted’ amenities, including swim-up bars. :)

    Wouldn’t it attract attention if you were wearing a nice blazer and good shoes in the swimming pool?

    Once we were visiting Colorado Springs and one of my wife’s friends had told her that we should have tea at the Broadmoor (meaning of course British style afternoon tea with crumpets and jam and sandwiches with the crust cut off, etc.). I don’t know what the whole spread costs there but it’s surely overpriced for what it is – I’d rather pay for a real meal with some quality protein in it than a bunch of overpriced biscuits presented on a fancy tray. How many scones can you eat?

    So we were wandering about the hotel grounds as Steve suggests and we happened to walk past a conference where they had tea and coffee set up in the lobby outside for the attendees so I grabbed a paper cup and a tea bag and filled it with hot water and handed it to my wife . Here you go, now you can tell your friend that we had “tea at the Broadmoor” . I hear about it to this day.

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    How many scones can you eat?
     
    Two, if I'm feeling peckish. Any more might be gauche during tea.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Jack, at my one daughter's wedding I noticed two couples at a table with drinks and a huge plate of the dessert cookies and biscotti. Interlopers! The give away was the casual attire. I told them to enjoy their drinks "to go", but I took the sweets back.
    , @Stan Adams
    Once, when I was dead broke and hungry, I foolishly decided to sneak into a hotel that offered a free breakfast buffet.

    I got caught. The clerk threatened to call me the cops, but eventually let me go free.

    I will admit that, to this day, I'm not above nabbing free copies of USA Today and The Wall Street Journal.
    , @Autochthon
    A close friend is a Kind of Big Deal in entertainment (behind the scenes). We've mostly lost touch, plus I'm too old and misanthropic to go in for such things much now anyhow, but he used to always have my name on some list for free tickets, backstage passes, etc. at concerts. We'd hang out on the tour buses, he'd show me around before the show, sometimes I'd meet the musicians – (((Adam Duritz))) is a prick, by the way. Anyhow, sometimes he couldn't meet me front-of-house because he was busy with his job setting up all the technical junk for the show, and he also hadn't made prior arrangements with the box-office to let me in, give me tickets, etc. He'd tell me via phone "Look, man, just come in such-and-such a door, go down thus-and-such hallways, and you'll some out at this location, where I can meet you in fifteen minutes."

    The first time it went thus I was worried. "What about the security staff? Won't they waylay me and throw me out? I don't want to cause any trouble for you."

    He'd chuckle. "As long as you walk with purpose as if you know where you are going and you have something to do when you get there, no one will think anything of it. They'll assume you belong here: the crew, the caterer, a merchandise guy, or whatever."

    He was absolutely right. To this day I use the lessons learned in this context. It's amazingly easy to bluff through any number of such situations; it's ninety per cent a matter of confidence and not acting squirrely.

    As others point out, one can easily mooch from catered buffets for this or that meeting in a hôtel, gatecrash conferences and festivals, etc. Weddings and similar functions where those present are likely to know all the attendees – and somewhat intimately, since people don't generally invite their mailman to a wedding – are still a bad bet, but I suppose if the there are a large enough amount of guests, one might be overlooked as the unknown date of an invitee, with the observer who may arch an eyebrow too apathetic or too busy to bother investigating exactly which invitee....

    , @AnotherDad
    Well played Jack! Well played.
  129. Alden says:
    @Jack D
    A cavalcade of compelling statistics (“less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense’s healthcare costs are due to transgender issues”)

    This is the usual statistilying - the DOD's healthcare budget is a gazillion $, so 0.1% of some very large # is still a tidy sum. The # of trannies in the Army is still pretty small. Why don't they mention the cost PER TRANNIE instead of the % of the military budget. What if we learned that the military was spending over $100,0oo of our hard earned money to transform each Bradley into a Chelsea at taxpayer expense? How would the viewers of CBS News feel about that statistic? What if we got to learn the details of what was involved - how Uncle Sam is paying for electrolysis on every hair in his beard so that Chelsea doesn't have a five o'clock shadow marring xer beauty. How every trannie needs a taxpayer paid shrink session every week to talk him thru the process. How would that go down with some small businessman struggling to get by and burdened by Federal taxes, to know that's where his tax dollars are being spent?

    http://time.com/money/4092680/transgender-surgery-costs/

    Knowing the great efficiency with which our military operates, it wouldn't surprise me if it is was even more.

    I don’t think they need electrolysis. I think the estrogen and other hormones make body and face hair drop out naturally.

    Interesting that just as men are demanding massive doses of estrogen and other female hormones, doctors have stopped giving estrogen treatments to women for menopause because the consensus is that hormone therapy causes cancer. So now we’ll have to pay for their cancer treatments as well as lifelong hormones.

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    Is there such a thing as consensus in medicine?
  130. Alden says:
    @Jack D

    It seems wholly better for everyone to believe exactly one blessed woman was willing to become a mother without the fun
     
    I'm not so sure about that..... I understand that we are all better off if we all pretend there is some Big Guy in the sky watching our every move and who will make us pay for eternity if we make a wrong one. Even if this is not true, it's a highly useful fiction.

    But I don't see why virgin birth is really a necessary element of Christianity (let alone for "everyone"). It was only mentioned a couple of times in the New Testament and in only 2 of the gospels and apparently was not a big deal for at least the first couple of centuries of Christianity. It strikes me as one of those elements that got played up later in order to make Christianity more sellable to pagans - this Jesus guy was not just a great moral teacher but he had heap big magic too - virgin birth, died and came back to life, revived the dead, etc.. Jupiter and Apollo have nothing on Him. The early evangelists were selling a product to a skeptical audience. It was a good product but any salesman is apt to exaggerate the features of the product in order to make the sale.

    You’re right. Zeus and the other male gods of various pagan religions had a lot of children with human women.

    I think Sargon the great was one of those children.

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  131. @Anonymous
    ..... on the same note, his surname is 'Woodcock'.

    Yes, maybe Jonathan started out as Joanne and has a prosthetic willy to match the name.

    Re anonymous 108, this was the stuff of self-evidently ridiculous satire forty years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

    JackD – in the UK, Broadmoor is a psychiatric prison where some of the UKs most notorious murderers are sent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadmoor_Hospital

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  132. @Achilles
    Before long, unwillingness to believe that Bruce Jenner is a woman will be considered a mental illness, a psychological disorder, a delusion.

    Hollywood will get on board. The Rock will play a transgender woman in a new movie "G.I. Jolene," in which he undergoes a grueling BUD/S selection program while wearing high heels and at the same time overcoming bigotry from cis redneck fellow SEAL candidates. In a climactic scene, the Rock saves the most bigoted member of the class from drowning during a particularly brutal training exercise, followed later by a romantic encounter between the two. Before they are able to finish their training, the team of SEAL candidates is called into emergency service in the Persian Gulf where the Rock saves the entire team from almost certain death by using explosives stored in his bra.

    Academic research studies will prove that those laboring under the delusion that Bruce Jenner is a man are less intelligent and more superstitious than the rest of the population.

    All of this will be in the service of Science, because of course Science compels the conclusion that Bruce Jenner is a woman. Deniers will be considered as denying Science itself, and denying Science is to attack the set of values by which our civilization determines the proper standards of human behavior.

    Naturally, none of this will be applied to Muslims, because it would be racist to do so.

    That about sums it up.

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  133. Kylie says:
    @JimB
    I can't understand why woman haven't spoken with a unified voice against permitting female imposters from using women's bathrooms. Men are slobs, and men's bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.

    No matter how you shake and dance the last drop ends up in your pants, and the other 10 drops end up on the floor.

    Yes, men are slobs. But so are women.

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  134. Alden says:
    @Forbes
    AFAIK, he hasn't had his male reproductive organs cut off. Transitioning doesn't include such sacrifice--it's just one's public presentation/appearance.

    They only cut off the balls. The penis is hollowed out and then shoved up in the groin between 2 muscles. Then dilators are inserted to create a hole lined with the skin of the penis. Various problems occur. One is that hair grows between the muscles and the penis skin and it itches

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    I will refrain from asking how you know this . . .
  135. @Judah Benjamin Hur
    Things seem a little hopeless when even Orrin Hatch is defending "transgender rights."

    One thing is for sure, if (and when..ugh) "transgender rights" succeeds, something even weirder will come next. I can't quite imagine what that will be, but I'm sure it's coming.

    I believe people should be nice wherever possible. If someone wants to be "transgender," fine, whatever. If someone believes he's Napoleon, I'd even be willing to humor him, but don't force me to BELIEVE he's Napoleon or address him as "Your Imperial Majesty."

    Orrin Hatch was big buddies with Ted Kennedy. ’nuff said.

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  136. @Alden
    There is also the demand that the holy trans icon of tampax Kotex vending machines be installed in men's rooms because "menstruation is a right"

    Some college trans clubs are already demanding this.

    Last night I watched Tucker Carlson. He had a dim congress critter on, a man, claiming that there are thousands of trannies serving in the military "with distinction". What's serving with distinction? Probably doing their job and not getting into trouble.

    I wish Carlson had asked the congress critter exactly how many trannies are actually in the military. Supposedly there are less than 10,000 I the whole country, so how many can there be in the military?
    Thank god Trump stopped it. Otherwise every wanna be tranny under 35 in the country would join up to get the expensive hormones and surgery to effect the change. There is also a lot of psychological treatment and anti psycho drugs involved.
    I keep wondering , what is the next liberal cause? How totally insane will it be?

    People join the military now for the secure money. Why shouldn’t they join for the free, exotic healthcare? Seriously, a man we knew a few years ago couldn’t make enough money to support his wife and six kids, so he joined the army. They’re poor, but they have all their basic needs met. I’ll bet there’s tons of single moms in the military getting all sorts of bennies. I’m guessing on that, but I’d love for an active military type to fill me in.

    Also, another guy in the army told us that there’s a gang problem there. Again, anybody know about this?

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  137. @ScarletNumber

    trans people, you are:

    3) not a burden
     
    You could debate the other things on the list, but by definition trannies are a burden.

    ---

    Once upon a time a "woman" hiking up her dress to pee at a urinal was a standard sitcom trope. Now it would be a hate crime to include such a scene.

    M*A*S*H is out and having watched a few Seinfeld re-runs of late (after having not done so for a few years), I believe admitting to watching Seinfeld will be akin to admitting to reading Mein Kampf.

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    Not that there's anything wrong with that.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    …admitting to watching Seinfeld will be akin to admitting to reading Mein Kampf.
     
    Mein Krampf?
  138. @pedant

    if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman.
     
    I'm afraid I must inform you that as of this past January, Jenner is anatomically incapable of utilizing a urinal.

    Stop me if you’ve heard this before ….

    A reporter is interviewing Caitlyn/Bruce Jenner, and asks if zir still has zirs penis.

    Zir says, “Yeah, it’s right her in my purse. Wanna see it?”

    Ba dum.

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  139. @pedro
    I have to say all this restroom furor is silly. Public bathrooms are simply becoming unisex. It allows for more efficient distribution of resources at times of peak use. And they have not ended civilization in Europe.

    We did a long Europe-wide tour last year and used public bathrooms all over the place. All but one were single-sex…. one out of about 100 that we used.

    Europeans like their bathrooms separate too.

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  140. @Anonymous
    Did you ever see that sketch from the very first 1971 Monty Python movie in which the Pythons enact a very camp British Army battalion mincing through their military drill?

    Did you ever see that sketch from the very first 1971 Monty Python movie in which the Pythons enact a very camp British Army battalion mincing through their military drill?

    Dig up that National Lampoon camp classic from the same era, “Dixie Nixon”. The White House was practically a bathhouse. Complete with an “enema’s list”.

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  141. @pedro
    I have to say all this restroom furor is silly. Public bathrooms are simply becoming unisex. It allows for more efficient distribution of resources at times of peak use. And they have not ended civilization in Europe.

    Are you actually suggesting that Western Europe isn’t a byword for cuckedness these days? Seriously?

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  142. @candid_observer
    Unbelievably, Charles Blow's current column has the headline: "First they came for..."

    Really, Charles?

    First they came for the men who thought they were women who demanded that the Army pay for their self-mutilating surgery and said, "No thank you"...

    First they came for the men who thought they were women who demanded that the Army pay for their self-mutilating surgery and said, “No thank you”…

    In the UK, the NHS recently paid for a female-to-male “transitioner” to carry a baby while she still had the parts to do so. You can imagine this would cost much more than a normal pregnancy, what with her going to war against her hormonal system.

    A few pointed out certain shortages in other areas of the NHS that could have been addressed with the funds used for this. They were told, in the polite British way of course, to STFU.

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  143. @res
    The problem is, unisex bathrooms are not more efficient in all ways. The men's room layout with multiple urinals and stalls is much more space efficient. Even the women's room layout with only stalls is more space efficient than individual unisex bathrooms. And in my experience the individual unisex bathrooms exacerbate the problem of people using bathrooms for drug use, "showering", etc.

    Even the women’s room layout with only stalls is more space efficient than individual unisex bathrooms.

    I miss those wonderfully inefficient front lounges that department stores used to offer their patronesses in the little girls’ room. And I wasn’t even allowed to use them.

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  144. Alden says:
    @Clark Westwood

    Or is this some kind of religious mania?
     
    Two theories I've come across:

    1. Camille Paglia has suggested that World War T is being driven by Big Pharma, to increase the number of people having lifetime dependency on hormone supplements (or whatever it is that Ts take). This theory takes on a particularly sinister hue when one considers the push to "uncover" gender mismatches at earlier and earlier ages.

    2. During a panel discussion in the spring hosted by the Heritage Foundation, two old-school (and literally old) lesbians suggested that World War T was part of a larger, long-time effort by gay men to push lesbians into a totally passive role in the LGBT movement. The idea was that M-to-F transes are claiming the same authority as "born women" to take leadership on lesbian and feminist issues.

    By the way, Angelina Jolie has her daughter 11 year old Shiloh on hormone therapy to prevent her developing as a girl. Angelina is just so chic and fashionable. Tattoos, black and Asian adopted kids, no natural children until 35 plus and now a girl changing into a boy.

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  145. Thea says:
    @JimB
    I can't understand why woman haven't spoken with a unified voice against permitting female imposters from using women's bathrooms. Men are slobs, and men's bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.

    No matter how you shake and dance the last drop ends up in your pants, and the other 10 drops end up on the floor.

    Some feminists are flattered that a man wants to be a woman. They’ve internalized the bogus concept of penis envy so they are happy to believe that vagina envy exists.

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  146. @pedro
    I have to say all this restroom furor is silly. Public bathrooms are simply becoming unisex. It allows for more efficient distribution of resources at times of peak use. And they have not ended civilization in Europe.

    And they have not ended civilization in Europe.

    I dunno. A lot of Europe is pretty eff’d up. Maybe it is the unisex bathrooms.

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  147. Tracy says: • Website
    @Jack D

    It seems wholly better for everyone to believe exactly one blessed woman was willing to become a mother without the fun
     
    I'm not so sure about that..... I understand that we are all better off if we all pretend there is some Big Guy in the sky watching our every move and who will make us pay for eternity if we make a wrong one. Even if this is not true, it's a highly useful fiction.

    But I don't see why virgin birth is really a necessary element of Christianity (let alone for "everyone"). It was only mentioned a couple of times in the New Testament and in only 2 of the gospels and apparently was not a big deal for at least the first couple of centuries of Christianity. It strikes me as one of those elements that got played up later in order to make Christianity more sellable to pagans - this Jesus guy was not just a great moral teacher but he had heap big magic too - virgin birth, died and came back to life, revived the dead, etc.. Jupiter and Apollo have nothing on Him. The early evangelists were selling a product to a skeptical audience. It was a good product but any salesman is apt to exaggerate the features of the product in order to make the sale.

    It was a matter of prophecy and there were types of it in the Old Testament all along. Christ and Mary poetically mirror Adam and Eve, for ex., in being born without original sin. Look at the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament and parallel it with Mary (see this page for more about that: http://www.fisheaters.com/mary.html.

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    Yes, some believe that the accounts in gospels are attempts to shoehorn Jesus into existing biblical prophecies, presumably in order to get Jews to believe that Jesus really is the Messiah predicted by prophets. They also had to figure out a way to place the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem to fit the prophecy.

    But Matthew and Luke gave completely different reasons for why Jesus of Nazareth was born in Bethlehem. Matthew says the birth was in Bethlehem because that's where Mary and Joseph lived. He has them fleeing from Bethlehem to Egypt to escape Herod, then later returning and deciding to live in Nazareth because it was a safer distance from Jerusalem. Luke says they lived in Nazareth, went to Bethlehem for a census (although there is no Roman record of a census taken at that time) and were forced to stay in a manger. Matthew doesn't mention a manger. Luke has the shepherds; Matthew has the Wise Men. Etc.

    If you are a believer, you really have to overlook these little nitpicky details. The important thing is the SPIRITUAL truth, not the literal truth. Pardon me for being blasphemous here, but this is same reason why true believers don't sweat the details in accounts like the story of Saint Trayvon the boy martyr.
    , @AM
    I replied as well, along with to his issue of inconsistencies in the New Testament.
  148. Tracy says: • Website
    @Dahlia
    I hadn't checked in with Gender Trender and some of the other gals in awhile and a lot sure had changed: "women" can proudly have penises and not even look like women anymore. Or even change their masculine name.

    At first, I though it was a one-off thing,
    https://twitter.com/evan_greer?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
    (bonus: The larger the trustfund, the bigger the protest seen in action)

    then a two-off thing,
    https://www.google.com/search?q=danielle+muscato&rlz=1C1LENN_enUS664US674&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs-sCAzKnVAhVBgj4KHe28AJIQ_AUICigB&biw=1242&bih=580

    but, no, it's a thing:
    http://www.teenvogue.com/story/how-my-beard-affects-my-gender-identity-as-a-trans-femme

    Back to the urinals, this one made threats prompting an alert earlier this month; most recent facebook posts had been about the lack of urinals in the women's rooms at Southwestern College:
    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Southwestern-College-Issues-Safety-Alert-Concerning-Potential-Threat-434104033.html

    The demented violence and threats from TransDykes (divide time between attacking Rightists and "terfs"; founder keeps a mustache) aren't a one-off, either. Twitter accounts like @exposingtrans keep very, very busy. You cannot tell the difference between the tone and nature of the threats against radfems/terfs and that that's been uttered against Trump supporters in the past year; the only difference is that they get away with it against the radfems because other liberals have their back. Radfems believe women are owed protections under the law and society by simply being women because they are weaker; that they must have separate spaces, especially when it comes to bathrooms and showers.

    You'll also learn from such accounts that women discussing menstruation or their female body parts is very triggering to transwomen, and as good allies, there has been a very strong push to end their discussion. I kid you not, and if you wondered why a few liberal organizations were starting to say things like, "people who have ovaries", this is why. There has been no similar push from "transmen", not even remotely.

    You’ll also learn from such accounts that women discussing menstruation or their female body parts is very triggering to transwomen, and as good allies, there has been a very strong push to end their discussion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yALNSd0iME

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  149. Veritatis says:

    Lincoln and Chesterton both come to mind. The first would ask his audience a riddle. “If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?” The audience answered “five”. He countered: ” Four, because calling a tail a leg does not make it a leg.”

    Chesterton, looking at the problem from another angle, just observed that a man who does not believe in God will not then believe nothing, he will believe anything. And here we are.

    But what about the IQ angle, that explains so many things in societies?!? I’m waiting for a pertinent explanation.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    You have to be this smart in order to be this dumb, you see.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    But what about the IQ angle, that explains so many things in societies?!? I’m waiting for a pertinent explanation.
     
    It's the rise of the "Clever Sillies." People with high IQs aren't just normal people with a higher HP brain, high IQ is associated with personality traits and is a certain disposition. It's arisen in the modern world in part because we now stay in schools uninterrupted for 20+ years.

    http://medicalhypotheses.blogspot.com/2009/11/clever-sillies-why-high-iq-lack-common.html
  150. slumber_j says:
    @Travis
    Democrats are bad at math...they probably do assume they are pot committed but they should know they have a losing hand and it would be prudent to fold this hand...even most democrats oppose transponders in the military, even Obama waited until he was in his last months (when it looked like rump would lose the Presidential election) before he allowed Trans people to serve in the military.

    It is notable that just 12 months ago Sen. McCain attacked Obama for allowing transgendered to serve openly in the armed forces...Sen. John McCain railed at the Obama administration for its "contempt" of Congress in keeping lawmakers in the dark about its decision to lift a ban on letting transgender troops serve in the military..."All I can say is it seems maybe their more interested in the publicity value than really getting something accomplished, because something like this will require some legislation."

    It is notable that just 12 months ago Sen. McCain attacked Obama for allowing transgendered to serve openly in the armed forces…

    True…but of course 12 months ago it wasn’t yet current year!

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  151. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    No, Bruce Jenner isn’t just a woman. She’s a woman who’s hung like a horse.

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    No, Bruce Jenner isn’t just a woman. She’s a woman who’s hung like a horse.
     
    If xe wasn't before, if it hasn't been lopped off or refurbished into a pseudovadge, , xe is now.

    A side effect of hormone treatment to make men grow boobs and "feminize" them ironically causes penis growth, sometimes enormous penis growth. In the 90s I had to peruse Al Goldstein's publication for professional reasons and I remember seeing the pictures of these unfortunate individuals. It was very common for them to have what looked like 8 to 9 inches flaccid.

    Whether they still were ever any other way, I don't know. The two pro wrestlers I knew who had enormous members said that pre-steroids they were normal, but at least it still worked, whereas now they were completely impotent.
  152. Dahlia says:
    @Tracy

    You’ll also learn from such accounts that women discussing menstruation or their female body parts is very triggering to transwomen, and as good allies, there has been a very strong push to end their discussion.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yALNSd0iME

    Ha ha! God love Alice!

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  153. @JimB
    I can't understand why woman haven't spoken with a unified voice against permitting female imposters from using women's bathrooms. Men are slobs, and men's bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.

    No matter how you shake and dance the last drop ends up in your pants, and the other 10 drops end up on the floor.

    Men are slobs, and men’s bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.

    I’ve heard from those who have seen plenty of both, that the men’s rooms tend to be cleanest.

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  154. TWS says:
    @syonredux
    Get WOKE, Steve:

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS.

    Follow
    Myq Kaplan ✔ @myqkaplan
    trans people, you are:

    1) loved
    2) human
    3) not a burden
    4) heard
    5) seen
    6) valued
    7) so much more
    8) loved#TransRightsAreHumanRights
    2:36 PM - Jul 26, 2017
    112 112 Retweets 256 256 likes
     
    https://www.themarysue.com/trans-rights-are-human-rights/

    Lol

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  155. Moshe says:
    @unit472
    Anyone who went to stadium events knew that women, facing lines to use the women's rooms, would co-opt a few of the stalls in the men's lavatories. No public announcements had to be made, no signs posted. Women in need just walked on in and used an empty stall.

    I assume the same happened in Department Store dressing rooms. If a transvestite came into a Target and wanted to try on women's clothes he would use the women's dressing rooms. If some woman was offended and complained the store manager would try and defuse the situation and hope it didn't happen again. He/She would not notify the CEO of Target and the CEO would not want to make an issue of a rare incident. Discretion was the best 'policy'. The 'unstated' rule for public toilets and dressing rooms was sexual activity was not permitted. Beyond that it was help yourself but keep it to yourself. It worked.

    In New York (where bathroom rights for tranniea are LAW) I have LITERALLY used the women’s room and – when the inevitable gasp and stuttering “this is the ladies room” came – I claimed to identify as a woman.

    I did this even when the men’s room was empty. I do it for the groveling apologies and subservient honors.

    I wouldn’t do this down south of course but in nyc it’s hilarious. You can’t imagine the red- faced, “I’M SO SORRY!”s I get.

    That’s why I love various society’s crazinesses, like Mencken I LITERALLY ENJOY THEM.

    Unless the persecution gets two STDeviations worse, I GENUINELY hope rhe whole tranny, feminism, sacred negro… stuff continues.

    I know that lots of folk here are ASJWs (anti social justice warriors) and really want to CHANGE THINGS but I’m a happy warrior who hopes my enemy resurrects each day so that I can have fun with him all over again.

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  156. @George
    It's amazing what they are doing with silicone. Womym born womyn are now able to use urinals.

    https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/3591633b-40f3-4da2-8c52-71cd1e618626_1.2469d27a0eea3f2290a7842a16c5e4c7.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF

    Lady Elegance P-EZ Travel Urinal, JB5793

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lady-Elegance-P-EZ-Travel-Urinal-JB5793/27756862?

    Whatever transwhat toilet-terror troubles us, the REAL problem is whoever (or whatever) is spraying all over the porcelain place.

    Let the emancipated ladies fight this battle themselves. Men are already used to weird creepy dudes cruising the toilets for heaven knows what. Time for equality in misery!

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    Wait till some weird creepy actual man agressively comes on to a woman turned into a man who is only sexually attracted to women.

    One thing about lesbians, they never used restrooms as pick up bars.
  157. TWS says:
    @The Z Blog
    I had a post the other day about tribal signalling. I think it is possible that the Cult of Modern Liberalism picks up issues like trannies as a form of self-defense. In order to be in their thing, you have to accept some form of lunacy. A decade ago that meant embracing homosexuality. Now, the Proud Boys are all super-gay so the Progs need something even nuttier. Now you have to be pro-tranny.

    Once Jonah Goldberg writes "The Conservative Case of Chopping of Your Junk", the Progs will find some new lunacy to embrace.

    You got that right. Goldberg or Pod the Lesser will write it mark my words.

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    That would be a fun alt-right exercise: write "The Conservative Case of Chopping of Your Junk" in the style of various NR-niks. Bloggers could draw straws for each of the classical styles: Goldberg's pseudo-dialectic, Podhoertz's whiny histrionics, Williamson's smug fatuousness, thot-of-the-week's fake girl edgyness, David French's rolling-in-the-mud groveling, etc.
  158. @Jack D
    Wouldn't it attract attention if you were wearing a nice blazer and good shoes in the swimming pool?

    Once we were visiting Colorado Springs and one of my wife's friends had told her that we should have tea at the Broadmoor (meaning of course British style afternoon tea with crumpets and jam and sandwiches with the crust cut off, etc.). I don't know what the whole spread costs there but it's surely overpriced for what it is - I'd rather pay for a real meal with some quality protein in it than a bunch of overpriced biscuits presented on a fancy tray. How many scones can you eat?

    So we were wandering about the hotel grounds as Steve suggests and we happened to walk past a conference where they had tea and coffee set up in the lobby outside for the attendees so I grabbed a paper cup and a tea bag and filled it with hot water and handed it to my wife . Here you go, now you can tell your friend that we had "tea at the Broadmoor" . I hear about it to this day.

    How many scones can you eat?

    Two, if I’m feeling peckish. Any more might be gauche during tea.

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  159. Marty T says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur
    Things seem a little hopeless when even Orrin Hatch is defending "transgender rights."

    One thing is for sure, if (and when..ugh) "transgender rights" succeeds, something even weirder will come next. I can't quite imagine what that will be, but I'm sure it's coming.

    I believe people should be nice wherever possible. If someone wants to be "transgender," fine, whatever. If someone believes he's Napoleon, I'd even be willing to humor him, but don't force me to BELIEVE he's Napoleon or address him as "Your Imperial Majesty."

    Hatch isn’t running again and he’s always been as liberal as possible for Utah. But yeah it’s still mind boggling. 24 Republican representatives voted to allow taxpayer funded sex change operations in the military. And every Democrat did. These “moderate” Republicans need a primary.

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  160. Jack D says:
    @Tracy
    It was a matter of prophecy and there were types of it in the Old Testament all along. Christ and Mary poetically mirror Adam and Eve, for ex., in being born without original sin. Look at the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament and parallel it with Mary (see this page for more about that: http://www.fisheaters.com/mary.html.

    Yes, some believe that the accounts in gospels are attempts to shoehorn Jesus into existing biblical prophecies, presumably in order to get Jews to believe that Jesus really is the Messiah predicted by prophets. They also had to figure out a way to place the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem to fit the prophecy.

    But Matthew and Luke gave completely different reasons for why Jesus of Nazareth was born in Bethlehem. Matthew says the birth was in Bethlehem because that’s where Mary and Joseph lived. He has them fleeing from Bethlehem to Egypt to escape Herod, then later returning and deciding to live in Nazareth because it was a safer distance from Jerusalem. Luke says they lived in Nazareth, went to Bethlehem for a census (although there is no Roman record of a census taken at that time) and were forced to stay in a manger. Matthew doesn’t mention a manger. Luke has the shepherds; Matthew has the Wise Men. Etc.

    If you are a believer, you really have to overlook these little nitpicky details. The important thing is the SPIRITUAL truth, not the literal truth. Pardon me for being blasphemous here, but this is same reason why true believers don’t sweat the details in accounts like the story of Saint Trayvon the boy martyr.

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    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @AM

    If you are a believer, you really have to overlook these little nitpicky details. The important thing is the SPIRITUAL truth, not the literal truth. Pardon me for being blasphemous here, but this is same reason why true believers don’t sweat the details in accounts like the story of Saint Trayvon the boy martyr.
     
    Actually you don't. What you do is approach them with thoughtful and critical analysis.

    If you have the truth, you will expect that different eyewitnesses will see and hear different things. Their reports will each return different details. Your complaint is that 4 different Gospel writers didn't copy and paste each other. Well, okay - eyewitnesses never do either. The point is to listen to all 4 and come up with as a comprehensive narrative as possible.

    The Gospels are some of the best preserved texts from the ancient world. There's no reason to doubt there was census at the time, even if the Romans didn't record it. Israel was annoying provincial backwater at the time. That's a bureaucratic record easily lost to indifference. The Gospels themselves count as historical texts.

    And meanwhile, what can be gleaned from all 4 account for instance, is that the birth happened in Bethlehem, no matter what else happened in and around it. That's what thoughtful analysis of the conflicts in the Gospels give you. What is the bare facts of the matter, the detail not in dispute? The Bethlehem birth.

    Treating the Gospels as the witness accounts that they are is very helpful. The modern literalist thinking on the matter is very.."special needs" to put it mildly.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Always wondered about that census story. If you have to leave your town...doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of the census?
  161. David says:
    @Amasius
    Made me think of this classic Ramzpaul vid:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGOTkc6uW24

    Funny but prank phone calls are immoral. If each man just started to subject his actions to the golden-rule test, we’d suddenly stop living in a land of jerks.

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    Funny but prank phone calls are immoral. If each man just started to subject his actions to the golden-rule test, we’d suddenly stop living in a land of jerks.
     
    Yeah, you're probably right, Dave, but even so, do you mind answering a related question?

    Is your refrigerator running?
  162. @JimB
    I can't understand why woman haven't spoken with a unified voice against permitting female imposters from using women's bathrooms. Men are slobs, and men's bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.

    No matter how you shake and dance the last drop ends up in your pants, and the other 10 drops end up on the floor.

    Jim, read what Kylie says, but I will tell you from my experience facilitating events at a local venue, the women’s restroom is always a disaster. Women squatting over the toilet, but not sitting down and peeing everywhere but in the bowl and women covering every exposed area of the porcelain with TP and then peeing all over it and leaving it to dry where it lands. Years since we have had cigarette butts in the urinals though.

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    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    "Years since we have had cigarette butts in the urinals though."
    I remember that. Really disgusting. They were soggy and hard to light.
  163. AM says:
    @Jack D

    It seems wholly better for everyone to believe exactly one blessed woman was willing to become a mother without the fun
     
    I'm not so sure about that..... I understand that we are all better off if we all pretend there is some Big Guy in the sky watching our every move and who will make us pay for eternity if we make a wrong one. Even if this is not true, it's a highly useful fiction.

    But I don't see why virgin birth is really a necessary element of Christianity (let alone for "everyone"). It was only mentioned a couple of times in the New Testament and in only 2 of the gospels and apparently was not a big deal for at least the first couple of centuries of Christianity. It strikes me as one of those elements that got played up later in order to make Christianity more sellable to pagans - this Jesus guy was not just a great moral teacher but he had heap big magic too - virgin birth, died and came back to life, revived the dead, etc.. Jupiter and Apollo have nothing on Him. The early evangelists were selling a product to a skeptical audience. It was a good product but any salesman is apt to exaggerate the features of the product in order to make the sale.

    I understand that we are all better off if we all pretend there is some Big Guy in the sky watching our every move and who will make us pay for eternity if we make a wrong one. Even if this is not true, it’s a highly useful fiction.

    It would really help if y’all got the theology right. People were never this stupid about their religion, even before Christianity. It’s easy to be atheist when what you’ve got in your head is a child’s cartoon of God, rather than the adult version.

    The adult version of judgement is a bit more like the Charles Dickens imagined it In a Christmas Carol, as in the creation or removal of chains around your soul. It’s observable in the lives of people, if you pay attention. People, as they grow, either towards the Divine or towards evil will either gain peace or they will flail around in increasing internal torment. It just happens as function of time. In complex theology, people fall into Hell, from the sheer weight of their souls. The judgement is a shorthand way to think about it and in the moment you might need such a concept.

    The adult version of God is either the Judaic one, who is way more complex than some Big Guy in the sky or the Christian one, which covers every part of Divine experience – The Father (the Creator of life, not a dude in the sky), The Son (the power of sacrifice, the fallen nature of the world), and Holy Spirit – the feelings of nature and people around us having a sense of the Divine. It’s Holy Mystery of The Trinity – not Santa Claus.

    But I don’t see why virgin birth is really a necessary element of Christianity (let alone for “everyone”).

    Tracey covered it well from one perspective, let me you give another angle. The only way The Son of God could be The Son of God is if he had no human father. Christ is both fully divine and fully human and it’s not possible if he was conceived the normal way. Not only will the Son of God have power over death through resurrection, he must actually physically begotten, not made.

    But even if you don’t believe any of that, the concept of Mary’s sacrifice is critical. She is the model for sacrificial Motherhood – of a women not given to hedonism. I’ve read feminist critics and they’re all garbage. Mary takes every risk for her son, and knowing she would be at the foot of the Cross to lose him there – and she does it anyway without even once asking for pleasure for herself.

    In age lost to hedonism and specifically female hedonism, why wouldn’t you want her as role model for every woman you met?

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    That sense or even awareness of the Holy Spirit is underappreciated in the current era, along with so much more.
  164. @Jack D

    Medieval Europeans didn’t believe in witches
     
    Are you sure about that?

    Generally speaking, Christianity was an improvement over paganism - no more Gladiator fights, no more human sacrifice, etc. However, there is no doubt that certain aspects of Medieval Christianity were not particularly Christian - Jesus (if he was around) would have been the first to say that making a big deal about bits of wood from the True Cross or the Holy Foreskin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce

    was really missing the point of what he was trying to teach.

    At its best, religion distinguishes us from the lower animals but at its weakest it exploits certain flaws in human software - for example the idea that the magnificent spirit of certain humans or beasts attaches to pieces of them or objects that have touched them or to certain places and that if you can possess or even touch a bit of those then the greatness will in turn rub off on you. This idea is held not just by (parts of) Christianity but also by many primitive religions, modern Leftism (see Magic Dirt) being one of them.

    The whole tranny thing was a result of the Left winning World War G. Never in history has any fund raising or political apparatus declared victory and gone home. The March of Dimes was created to cure polio but when polio was cured they did not disband - they just found more diseases to cure so that the fund raisers could keep their jobs and nice offices. Every political movement needs a bloody shirt to wave, something to excite the base. Once World War G was won, they had to find a new frontier and Trannies were it. Admittedly kind of slim pickings - all the low hanging fruit was gone. But better than nothing. Had Hillary won, World War T would have also been won and they would have had to find something else (what would it have been?). But since Trump won, the Left will dine out on World War T a bit longer. Fund raising emails are going out to the base by the millions at this very minute.

    Christianity was an improvement over paganism – no more Gladiator fights, no more human sacrifice

    The Roman Empire certainly featured a lot of cruelty and brutality, but it didn’t practice human sacrifice; in fact the Romans claimed it showed how civilized they were that they had forbidden the druids in Gaul from continuing their human sacrifices…human sacrifice was seen as a repellent practice barbarians did. A few human sacrifices had still happened during the 2nd Punic war (iirc some Greeks and Gauls were buried alive in Rome), but by the imperial era human sacrifice wasn’t practiced anymore.

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  165. @AM

    It’s like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.
     
    Go ahead. Keep tearing down Christianity. Medieval Europeans didn't believe in witches, understood the need to be married and stay that way, and certainly would have laughed at Bruce Jenner in a dress.

    We need to stop pretending we're more advanced the those stupid Christians in the past. I get this might have been a joke, but it's time to lay down this infernal modern arrogance on the point.

    The transgender stuff is maybe not the sign of the Apocalypse but it is the sign of a society in serious social decay. This happened too, at the end of Rome and Greece. Whoever we are in comparison to the past, we are not smarter or more sophisticated. Right now my WWII Grandmother with the 8th grade education who spied on her neighbors is starting to look like a genius.

    Medieval Europeans didn’t believe in witches

    That’s only correct insofar as the paranoia over witches reached its heights in the early modern era (promoted by ecclesiastical figures like the Dominican inquisitor Heinrich Kramer who wrote the Malleus maleficarum; in Britain the first Stuart king James I also was a great believer in witches and wrote treatises about them), but of course plenty of Christians during the Middle Ages did believe in magic, witches etc.

    This happened too, at the end of Rome and Greece.

    The Roman Empire in the west collapsed when it had become officially Christian, the truly decadent stuff (Elagabalus etc.) happened much earlier.

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    but of course plenty of Christians during the Middle Ages did believe in magic, witches etc.
     
    As another points out, in the early and middle Medival Era it was crime to accuse someone of being a witch. You personally could be punished for it.

    Again, if you don't believe me, look at time lines for actual witch hunts. There are none until the edge of the Renaissance.

    The average medieval Christian would have just laughed at you for accusing people of being witches, just like people do right now. Yeah, you'd get people suffering from mental illness worried about witches - but now they've switched to UFOs and the like.

    The Roman Empire in the west collapsed when it had become officially Christian, the truly decadent stuff (Elagabalus etc.) happened much earlier.
     
    Yes, the Christians in the Roman West probably went long way to preventing all of Europe from descending into complete chaos as Rome fell. The point was that the tranny stuff is a serious warning sign of a society in decay.
  166. AM says:
    @Jack D
    Yes, some believe that the accounts in gospels are attempts to shoehorn Jesus into existing biblical prophecies, presumably in order to get Jews to believe that Jesus really is the Messiah predicted by prophets. They also had to figure out a way to place the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem to fit the prophecy.

    But Matthew and Luke gave completely different reasons for why Jesus of Nazareth was born in Bethlehem. Matthew says the birth was in Bethlehem because that's where Mary and Joseph lived. He has them fleeing from Bethlehem to Egypt to escape Herod, then later returning and deciding to live in Nazareth because it was a safer distance from Jerusalem. Luke says they lived in Nazareth, went to Bethlehem for a census (although there is no Roman record of a census taken at that time) and were forced to stay in a manger. Matthew doesn't mention a manger. Luke has the shepherds; Matthew has the Wise Men. Etc.

    If you are a believer, you really have to overlook these little nitpicky details. The important thing is the SPIRITUAL truth, not the literal truth. Pardon me for being blasphemous here, but this is same reason why true believers don't sweat the details in accounts like the story of Saint Trayvon the boy martyr.

    If you are a believer, you really have to overlook these little nitpicky details. The important thing is the SPIRITUAL truth, not the literal truth. Pardon me for being blasphemous here, but this is same reason why true believers don’t sweat the details in accounts like the story of Saint Trayvon the boy martyr.

    Actually you don’t. What you do is approach them with thoughtful and critical analysis.

    If you have the truth, you will expect that different eyewitnesses will see and hear different things. Their reports will each return different details. Your complaint is that 4 different Gospel writers didn’t copy and paste each other. Well, okay – eyewitnesses never do either. The point is to listen to all 4 and come up with as a comprehensive narrative as possible.

    The Gospels are some of the best preserved texts from the ancient world. There’s no reason to doubt there was census at the time, even if the Romans didn’t record it. Israel was annoying provincial backwater at the time. That’s a bureaucratic record easily lost to indifference. The Gospels themselves count as historical texts.

    And meanwhile, what can be gleaned from all 4 account for instance, is that the birth happened in Bethlehem, no matter what else happened in and around it. That’s what thoughtful analysis of the conflicts in the Gospels give you. What is the bare facts of the matter, the detail not in dispute? The Bethlehem birth.

    Treating the Gospels as the witness accounts that they are is very helpful. The modern literalist thinking on the matter is very..”special needs” to put it mildly.

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  167. @unit472
    Anyone who went to stadium events knew that women, facing lines to use the women's rooms, would co-opt a few of the stalls in the men's lavatories. No public announcements had to be made, no signs posted. Women in need just walked on in and used an empty stall.

    I assume the same happened in Department Store dressing rooms. If a transvestite came into a Target and wanted to try on women's clothes he would use the women's dressing rooms. If some woman was offended and complained the store manager would try and defuse the situation and hope it didn't happen again. He/She would not notify the CEO of Target and the CEO would not want to make an issue of a rare incident. Discretion was the best 'policy'. The 'unstated' rule for public toilets and dressing rooms was sexual activity was not permitted. Beyond that it was help yourself but keep it to yourself. It worked.

    unit, The Bills stadium, since remodeled, just had maybe one stall per men’s restroom and a stainless trough, with flowing water, against one wall. There was also a foot operated circular hand sink in the middle of the john, guys would surround it and pee away, sort of like a circular firing squad. Never saw anyone washing their hands. Women were always welcome.

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    Hey Joe, good times. I laugh at these millennials and their girly washroom habits. The communal pissing trough was a feature of every stadium men's room and most older large public schools. Also that foot-operated circular communal hand washer. Today's metrosexuals heads would explode if they had to take a leak in the old Maple Leaf Gardens.
  168. Jack D says:
    @sabril

    The rule of thumb is, if people are passionate about something then they really believe it
     
    Nobody really believes that races are equal in intelligence and criminality; that all religions are equally destructive; that global warming disaster is just around the corner; that there is a rape epidemic on college campuses; or any of the other Leftist nonsense which has been pushed on us for many years now.

    This is obvious from looking at peoples' personal decisions in terms of where to live; how to behave; how to invest; and what principles to compromise on. Would liberals accept an immigration moratorium in exchange for strict regulations on carbon emissions? If they seriously believed in their global warming claptrap, they would jump at such a deal. But of course they don't and they wouldn't.

    Yes, the key is revealed preference -the way people actually act, not what they say. Talk is cheap if you don’t have to walk the walk. Do you judge child molesting priests by the platitudes that they mouth from the pulpit or by what they actually do to little boys in the back room? These priests even believe what they are saying, they just rationalize that it somehow doesn’t apply to them, just like Al Gore can fly around the world on a private jet and live in a 10,000 s.f. house but preach to us about global warming.

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    Do you judge child molesting priests by the platitudes that they mouth from the pulpit or by what they actually do to little boys in the back room? These priests even believe what they are saying, they just rationalize that it somehow doesn’t apply to them, just like Al Gore can fly around the world on a private jet and live in a 10,000 s.f. house but preach to us about global warming.
     
    I assume you're judging school teachers in the same manner? Public school teachers have way worse problems when it comes to molestation, except nobody cares and generally treats middle school teachers as though they are priests themselves.

    In fairness, and the Catholic church is rotting from the inside. You and others are correct to notice it. We will have more scandals before it's done, because the clerics themselves actually do lack belief. The wiser churchmen have noted that lack of chasteness is found with lack of faith. They don't actually believe the faith, but they won't honestly give up the collars.

    But that said, to be angry about Priest scandals is wholly hypocritical, as I mentioned. Unless you're rooting out the school teachers whose job is to educate, this is stance is about tearing down someone else's faith for the purposes of substituting materialism.

  169. @Tiny Duck
    Maybe you guys should just live and let live be. Don't your ilk like freedoms? Or is that only when convenient.

    I think the real problem is that you guys are old and tired and can no longer run with the the young bucks who are increasingly diverse

    You guys really need to read verysmartbrothas to see what the ascendency majority (you know the future) thinks about white men ruining life for everyone else

    TD, you are so confusing. Now I should stop reading Leonard Pitts? And what is Mr. Pitt’s stand on shared public bathrooms? And speaking of stands. Do you stand to pee?

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  170. @ic1000
    On last night's CBS Evening News, the two lead stories were on Trump's Twitter-based oppression of patriotic transgender soldiers. The pathos of the patriotic officer manfully trudging along as the voiceover recounted xir anxiety over this blatant betrayal. Followed by a cavalcade of explanations and statistics that illustrate the manifold ways in which the many trans servicepeople shoulder More Than Their Share of the Burden, and Never Complain.

    Once again, The Divide: my spouse was appalled by the injustice of it all, while I had to admire the showrunners. Rolling cameras on a moment's notice with the most attractive spokespeople for their cause. A cavalcade of compelling statistics ("less than 0.1% of the Dept. of Defense's healthcare costs are due to transgender issues"). Claims sure to fall apart upon inspection... the inspection that never happens.

    As the military gives transgenders the bum's rush, we should spare a thought for patriotic asthmatics, flatfoots, amputees, and blind people. CBS News won't.

    ic, are there any transgendered hosts of a prime news hour, on a major station or network? Lots of gays and lesbians, but no transgendered. Probably because in reality there are so few who aren’t complete nut jobs.

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  171. @Jack D
    Wouldn't it attract attention if you were wearing a nice blazer and good shoes in the swimming pool?

    Once we were visiting Colorado Springs and one of my wife's friends had told her that we should have tea at the Broadmoor (meaning of course British style afternoon tea with crumpets and jam and sandwiches with the crust cut off, etc.). I don't know what the whole spread costs there but it's surely overpriced for what it is - I'd rather pay for a real meal with some quality protein in it than a bunch of overpriced biscuits presented on a fancy tray. How many scones can you eat?

    So we were wandering about the hotel grounds as Steve suggests and we happened to walk past a conference where they had tea and coffee set up in the lobby outside for the attendees so I grabbed a paper cup and a tea bag and filled it with hot water and handed it to my wife . Here you go, now you can tell your friend that we had "tea at the Broadmoor" . I hear about it to this day.

    Jack, at my one daughter’s wedding I noticed two couples at a table with drinks and a huge plate of the dessert cookies and biscotti. Interlopers! The give away was the casual attire. I told them to enjoy their drinks “to go”, but I took the sweets back.

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  172. Moshe says:
    @Anonymous
    "...if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman."

    I thought he transitioned to being a woman, hence "Caitlyn." In which "he" should be a "she". But evidently Caitlyn isn't a "she" after all. Or is she? Or should I say "he?"

    I'm confused. Not as much as Caitlyn though. Or is it Bruce? Or...???????

    Remember way way way back in 2014 when trannies were still a joke?

    Today this scene would constitute a Hate Crime.

    https://youtu.be/dNbZ_ufJ5Q8

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  173. AM says:
    @Jack D

    Medieval Europeans didn’t believe in witches
     
    Are you sure about that?

    Generally speaking, Christianity was an improvement over paganism - no more Gladiator fights, no more human sacrifice, etc. However, there is no doubt that certain aspects of Medieval Christianity were not particularly Christian - Jesus (if he was around) would have been the first to say that making a big deal about bits of wood from the True Cross or the Holy Foreskin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce

    was really missing the point of what he was trying to teach.

    At its best, religion distinguishes us from the lower animals but at its weakest it exploits certain flaws in human software - for example the idea that the magnificent spirit of certain humans or beasts attaches to pieces of them or objects that have touched them or to certain places and that if you can possess or even touch a bit of those then the greatness will in turn rub off on you. This idea is held not just by (parts of) Christianity but also by many primitive religions, modern Leftism (see Magic Dirt) being one of them.

    The whole tranny thing was a result of the Left winning World War G. Never in history has any fund raising or political apparatus declared victory and gone home. The March of Dimes was created to cure polio but when polio was cured they did not disband - they just found more diseases to cure so that the fund raisers could keep their jobs and nice offices. Every political movement needs a bloody shirt to wave, something to excite the base. Once World War G was won, they had to find a new frontier and Trannies were it. Admittedly kind of slim pickings - all the low hanging fruit was gone. But better than nothing. Had Hillary won, World War T would have also been won and they would have had to find something else (what would it have been?). But since Trump won, the Left will dine out on World War T a bit longer. Fund raising emails are going out to the base by the millions at this very minute.

    Are you sure about that?

    Yes. Witches do not reappear as concept until the Renaissance and mostly by northern Protestants reeling from the Reformation, although there is some further south at about that time.

    Medieval Europe knew there was no such thing as a witch. But don’t have to take my word for it. Look up the timelines yourself.

    However, there is no doubt that certain aspects of Medieval Christianity were not particularly Christian – Jesus (if he was around) would have been the first to say that making a big deal about bits of wood from the True Cross or the Holy Foreskin

    And? Christianity says every human is fallen. If we weren’t all fallen, why the need for a savior? Christ’s sacrifice is to cover sins just like those. We all attempt to not be that to follow in his foot steps, but we will fail.

    Also, you’ve really misunderstood Christ if you think that superstition was high the list of issues. It hardly even registers in the pantheon of sin. I’m not sure you’re really in position to judge what he was trying to teach.

    At its best, religion distinguishes us from the lower animals but at its weakest it exploits certain flaws in human software –

    I see you’re holding onto the view we are not really fallen, even has you acknowledge it. Religion was never a panacea. But people without religion believe themselves to be good. They will re-fashion their mirror into the Divine. That’s the weakness in the software that atheism exploits.

    for example the idea that the magnificent spirit of certain humans or beasts attaches to pieces of them or objects that have touched them or to certain places and that if you can possess or even touch a bit of those then the greatness will in turn rub off on you.

    This quite an extraordinary assertion. Do you have any hard proof that it does not work? At any rate, if the unwillingness to be a strict materialist is a sin, it’s news to me. I thought violating the 10 Commandments was much, much worse on any day of the week.

    The whole tranny thing was a result of the Left winning World War G.

    You lost me with this paragraph. The whole tranny thing is a result of the loss of the Divine in the West. The Divine is now who is in the mirror. And gods can change the universe with just the power of their mind.

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    Yes. Witches do not reappear as concept until the Renaissance and mostly by northern Protestants reeling from the Reformation, although there is some further south at about that time.
     
    Witches appear as "concepts" in Classical literature, i.e. Medea. I don't know where you get this assertion.
  174. AM says:
    @Tracy
    It was a matter of prophecy and there were types of it in the Old Testament all along. Christ and Mary poetically mirror Adam and Eve, for ex., in being born without original sin. Look at the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament and parallel it with Mary (see this page for more about that: http://www.fisheaters.com/mary.html.

    I replied as well, along with to his issue of inconsistencies in the New Testament.

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  175. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon
    You have to hand it to Trump for trying to reverse a destructive liberal social policy. I don't think Jeb Bush would have done any such thing. I say "trying" because it is not certain this will take. I assume that somewhere there's a court challenge in the offing right now, and a federal judge who is champing at the bit to overstep the authority of his office.

    I’m all for reversing this ’203 genders, men are women BS’ too, but he needs to stay focused on building the wall, and the ban on people from terrorist states. Hammer down those two, the main things people wanted him to do, then focus on reversing the social foolishness. You’ll have no America if it becomes a giant shariah zone overrun with Tribbles from down south.

    If your house is on fire, you don’t start mowing the lawn.

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  176. BB753 says:
    @pedant

    if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman.
     
    I'm afraid I must inform you that as of this past January, Jenner is anatomically incapable of utilizing a urinal.

    Links, please?

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  177. MBlanc46 says:
    @JimB
    I can't understand why woman haven't spoken with a unified voice against permitting female imposters from using women's bathrooms. Men are slobs, and men's bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.

    No matter how you shake and dance the last drop ends up in your pants, and the other 10 drops end up on the floor.

    Few women are standing up against the trans-nonsense because too many of them have bought into the “it’s a social construction” nondense. Plus, at the moment, it’s the party line.

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  178. NOTA says:
    @pedant

    if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman.
     
    I'm afraid I must inform you that as of this past January, Jenner is anatomically incapable of utilizing a urinal.

    I’m afraid I must inform you that that’s more than I wanted to know.

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  179. @Jack D
    Wouldn't it attract attention if you were wearing a nice blazer and good shoes in the swimming pool?

    Once we were visiting Colorado Springs and one of my wife's friends had told her that we should have tea at the Broadmoor (meaning of course British style afternoon tea with crumpets and jam and sandwiches with the crust cut off, etc.). I don't know what the whole spread costs there but it's surely overpriced for what it is - I'd rather pay for a real meal with some quality protein in it than a bunch of overpriced biscuits presented on a fancy tray. How many scones can you eat?

    So we were wandering about the hotel grounds as Steve suggests and we happened to walk past a conference where they had tea and coffee set up in the lobby outside for the attendees so I grabbed a paper cup and a tea bag and filled it with hot water and handed it to my wife . Here you go, now you can tell your friend that we had "tea at the Broadmoor" . I hear about it to this day.

    Once, when I was dead broke and hungry, I foolishly decided to sneak into a hotel that offered a free breakfast buffet.

    I got caught. The clerk threatened to call me the cops, but eventually let me go free.

    I will admit that, to this day, I’m not above nabbing free copies of USA Today and The Wall Street Journal.

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  180. NOTA says:
    @art guerrilla
    at syonflake-
    1. there are only 5 sexual states, all the rest is made up bullshit: opposite sexual (what 90-95% of us are, required for the perpetuation of the species; the rest are 'not normal'); same sexual; both sexual; auto sexual, and no sexual...
    that covers it, all the rest is made up bullshit...
    2. i am sorry we have shit in our nest so much with endocrine disruptors, estrogen mimics, and toxins we know nothing about, that we are causing developmental issues in ALL the planet's flora/fauna... sorry we have done that stupid shit TO US ALL, and that it causes a myriad of NOT normal intersex specimens across all species... that is a tough row to hoe, but it is NOT representative of a normal, VIABLE human bean; it is a biological horror show we have perpetrated upon ourselves...
    3. (before you start pearl-clutching and gasping (sic) at straws, please tell me that all the animals in nature showing signs of intersex chimeras, etc, is all perfectly 'normal'... PLEASE explain that to me, and how human beans are different, it is all some sort of non-judgmental, super-special snowflake, just kind of miraculously happened kind of deal where we are evolving to a NON-viable species ? ? ? no, you are fucked, and i am sorry for that, but what you are NOT, is a new gender or something; no, you are an unfortunate freak... sorry...
    (i am a 'freak', too; but in a different way; i accept my lot and make the best of it...)
    4. to the point of making ALL bathrooms pan-sexual and be done with it... such a waste of time: the titanic is sinking, and all the freaks in steerage can bitch about is getting a deck chair where they can be seen...

    All models lie, but some models are useful.

    A model with two categories (straight men and straight women) captures most of the picture, but misses a few people. Add gay and lesbian, and you have a more complicated model that covers more of the population. Add in bisexuals, asexuals, and transgenders and you’re getting an increasingly complex model, where each addition makes a smaller inprovement in your coverage of reality.

    For all I know, there is some model with 36 genders that describes things even more precisely. But the map ain’t the territory, so until you get to seven billion categories, you won’t prfectly describe everyone. Somewhere, there’s a person whose gender identity is a ham sandwitch and who is only sexually attracted to iguanas, and your evil exclusionary 36-gender model doesn’t cover it.

    The bathroom issue is pretty perfect for our age–it’s a great source of culture war and outrage (probably great for websites creating clickbait), and yet it’s a matter of very little actual importance.

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  181. NOTA says:
    @inertial
    Incidentally, this transgender military ban is smart politics on the part of Trump. Let the Left have yet another meltdown on this issue.

    Oh, the horror of Trump, rolling the military back to the dark days of June 2016 when Obama announced the new policy wrt transpeople.

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    Oh, the horror of Trump, rolling the military back to the dark days of June 2016 when Obama announced the new policy wrt transpeople.

     

    Ratchets only move in one direction. The Progs have every reason to expect that ANY movement forward is a ratchet movement, because it never gets rolled back. This move by Trump might actually be the first backwards push of the Prog movement since... well, since ever. When else have they ever lost ground?
  182. NOTA says:
    @anonymous
    Baby changing stations have been in many men's rooms for years now. Presumably there was a grass-roots demand for this so that men could do their share. For some strange reason they don't seem to be in use much and most appear to be in disrepair were someone to actually bother to check.

    When my kids were in diapers, I used them all the time. *Way* nicer than changing a kid on the disgusting floor of the mens room.

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    I see changing stations in men's rooms not as a matter of women demanding that men do their "fair share," but of easing men's ability to go out alone with their kids and deal with them adequately. A man goes out to McD's with his 1-year old, and the kid needs a diaper change, where's that supposed to happen? Not in the restaurant, I hope. There should be changing stations in men's rooms, definitely.
  183. NOTA says:
    @THF
    The most likely scenario is that the resort is converting its restrooms from single-sex to non-gender specific to avoid disputes over transgender guests.

    The endgame here is one-holer unisex restrooms. That deals with the awkwardness with transpeople using the womens or mens room while not offending anyone. It will cost more, but probably be more pleasant overall.

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  184. There is definitely a “bend the knee” aspect to the Tranny nonsense and our enemies do get off on humiliating the normals by forcing them to participate in obvious farces as a display of dominance. (i.e., Gay Pizza Weddings).

    When they win victories for these bizarre social causes it excites and energizes their activist base as much as it demoralizes the victims/losers. So there’s an aspect to this of generating raw political energy that gets directed towards the Democrats’ real priorities.

    I also think there’s a branding aspect – Democrats are cool, hip, and “with it” whatever “it” is at the moment.

    But I think a big part of World War G and World War T is the direction of energies away from issues that Democrats would rather not deal with. They’re now the Party of the very rich and very poor – so I don’t think they really want to capture more income for the Federal Treasury from their wealthy constituents (they can make half-hearted efforts and count on the GOP to take the fall for “the rich.”) So BLM and World War T and the like redirect the energies of the poor and young away from economic demands and into all-consuming SJW political football against the other party’s constituents (instead of some of their own).

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  185. Daniel H says:

    My brother was just visiting me out here in Vegas for a convention. One of his old college classmates, who lives out here, and who is now an MD turned into a tranny. In college this dude was known as a tough talking, aggressive guido, you know the type. Evidently very intelligent because he went to a prestigious college and Med school. Anyway, he confided to another friend of my brother’s that one big lure, that drew him to become a tranny was to nail lesbians. This is a true story. The dude is still married and still practices medicine, but traipses around as a tranny, spending his off evenings trying to seduce lesbians. Lesbians are on to these dudes and don’t trust them one bit.

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    Does he still have a johnson? What would be the point of seducing lesbians without one?
  186. @Anonymous
    In the ancient and honourable sport of rowing, women's 'cox less eights' are all the rage.

    I know of a female to male trans who cared about nothing except the operation. “Someday “she said, “I’ll have that addadictomy!”

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  187. @Jack D
    Yes, some believe that the accounts in gospels are attempts to shoehorn Jesus into existing biblical prophecies, presumably in order to get Jews to believe that Jesus really is the Messiah predicted by prophets. They also had to figure out a way to place the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem to fit the prophecy.

    But Matthew and Luke gave completely different reasons for why Jesus of Nazareth was born in Bethlehem. Matthew says the birth was in Bethlehem because that's where Mary and Joseph lived. He has them fleeing from Bethlehem to Egypt to escape Herod, then later returning and deciding to live in Nazareth because it was a safer distance from Jerusalem. Luke says they lived in Nazareth, went to Bethlehem for a census (although there is no Roman record of a census taken at that time) and were forced to stay in a manger. Matthew doesn't mention a manger. Luke has the shepherds; Matthew has the Wise Men. Etc.

    If you are a believer, you really have to overlook these little nitpicky details. The important thing is the SPIRITUAL truth, not the literal truth. Pardon me for being blasphemous here, but this is same reason why true believers don't sweat the details in accounts like the story of Saint Trayvon the boy martyr.

    Always wondered about that census story. If you have to leave your town…doesn’t that defeat the whole purpose of the census?

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    "Always wondered about that census story. If you have to leave your town…doesn’t that defeat the whole purpose of the census?"

    Not if you're trying to count up whole families in one spot, at their point of orgin. Or you don't want to send a census guy to every town and you can make them come to you. That's two reasons off the top of my head before the postal service existed why that might make sense.

  188. Big Business would rather have leftist activism focused on World War T instead of single payer, taxing the rich, worker rights and benefits, etc….and the media/govt/academia always gives Big Daddy Business what he wants

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  189. Karl says:
    @PSR
    On a not entirely unrelated topic: Over many years I have driven the West Virginia Turnpike many, many times; say one hundred or more. There is a rest area just south of the first tollbooth that is always packed with cars and trucks. The men's room had 4-5 toilets and 4-5 urinals. I just stopped there for the first time since last summer and the restroom has been totally rebuilt and the new men's room has 4-5 stalls but no urinals. I've never seen a men's room with no urinals but now - thanks WV Turnpike - long lines of men waiting to pee in the toilets. And the toilets flush automatically so they are constantly flushing. Heck of a waste of water.
    I can't even imagine the reasoning.

    63 PSR > 4-5 stalls but no urinals

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  190. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Precautionary lawsuit protection, as to avoid ADA shakedown racketeers?

    Regarding all the transwhat drama (queens?)... I'm not finding the voluntary mutilation / better living though chemistry nearly as appalling as the economic aspects. Trans-sexual simulation might not even be the most heinous crime against nature, G*d and humanity compared to the nearly universal 21st century freakshow of self-inflicted body modifications, disfigurement by tattoo and intentional food-poisoning... resulting simply from way too much of it... with the obesity epidemic as its consequence.

    However in a world which demands and indulges out of compassion for men striving to achieve a "more feminine" presentation to obtain boob-jobs and electrolysis to remove body-hair and for women striving for a more masculine muscular physique to obtain androgenic hormones, how can we then deny boob jobs and electrolysis for cis-women unsatisfied with their natural endowments? Why can't cis-men take advantage of a little "chemical help" to get more buff? With limits to public and private health care resources, what of priorities?

    In the silly-season leftopia where I'm stuck at the moment, transwhats are a common sight. You know that these precious folks aren't paying for the hormone supplementation, medical consultations, blood work and other tests as well as for the surgical sculpting out of their own pocket....

    Your taxes and insurance premiums at work...

    indulges out of compassion

    Compassion is the Latinish version of the Greek sympathy which means literally “to suffer with.” But World War T is the exact opposite of that. It’s about washing one’s hands of the messy reality rather that dealing with the mental illness involved, and it’s about avoiding any conceivable suffering at any cost.

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  191. Legitimate virtue having been deconstructed, ostensibly for purposes of equality but in reality by vice tired of paying the customary tribute, those in desperate need of some virtue to signal were left with mere nicety, now taken to predictably absurd lengths in serving a purpose for which it was never remotely suited.

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  192. qtl says: • Website
    @Jack D

    Medieval Europeans didn’t believe in witches
     
    Are you sure about that?

    Generally speaking, Christianity was an improvement over paganism - no more Gladiator fights, no more human sacrifice, etc. However, there is no doubt that certain aspects of Medieval Christianity were not particularly Christian - Jesus (if he was around) would have been the first to say that making a big deal about bits of wood from the True Cross or the Holy Foreskin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce

    was really missing the point of what he was trying to teach.

    At its best, religion distinguishes us from the lower animals but at its weakest it exploits certain flaws in human software - for example the idea that the magnificent spirit of certain humans or beasts attaches to pieces of them or objects that have touched them or to certain places and that if you can possess or even touch a bit of those then the greatness will in turn rub off on you. This idea is held not just by (parts of) Christianity but also by many primitive religions, modern Leftism (see Magic Dirt) being one of them.

    The whole tranny thing was a result of the Left winning World War G. Never in history has any fund raising or political apparatus declared victory and gone home. The March of Dimes was created to cure polio but when polio was cured they did not disband - they just found more diseases to cure so that the fund raisers could keep their jobs and nice offices. Every political movement needs a bloody shirt to wave, something to excite the base. Once World War G was won, they had to find a new frontier and Trannies were it. Admittedly kind of slim pickings - all the low hanging fruit was gone. But better than nothing. Had Hillary won, World War T would have also been won and they would have had to find something else (what would it have been?). But since Trump won, the Left will dine out on World War T a bit longer. Fund raising emails are going out to the base by the millions at this very minute.

    Medieval Europeans *literally* didn’t believe in witches. It was part of canon law and the Carolingian law that no such thing as witchcraft existed. Accusing someone of witchcraft was, iirc, a crime in many jurisdictions.

    This began to change after the 1300s as the Dominicans began seeking wider inquisitorial powers for use against Cathars and Waldensians, eventually including witchcraft prosecutions (there was a papal bull in 1467 or so to this effect, which the civil authorities mostly ignored due to the old consensus that witches didn’t exist, but by 1550 witch-hunts were going on all over Europe).

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  193. @Anonymous
    You left out the part where the true believer bends down and puts her arm around her child and points -- and in reverential tones imparts the concrete lesson of the abstract dogma that had merely glazed over eyes: "You see? Girls can have penises too."

    No true Scottsman has a vagina.

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    No true Scottsman has a vagina.
     
    Thank you! I rarely laugh out loud, but that cracked me up!
  194. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. The media can react fast. Check out this article. The Hill shows a picture of a pilot but turns out that the transgender is a staff sergeant.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/transgender-airman-i-would-like-to-see-them-try-to-kick-me-out-of-my-military/ar-AAoSHDK?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

    Also, where the hell does this 15,500 serving transgender members of the military come from?

    There's no chance on this planet that there are ~15,000 transgender military personnel.

    Probably from someone multiplying the military population by one percent. Which is absurd.

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  195. Romanian says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    I've always maintained that two rather dour middle aged, middle class Englishmen of a certain vintage - George Orwell and Enoch Powell - are the real, true, prophets of our present decayed, insane, era.

    Some might add Aleister Crowley to that 'unholy trinity' of prophets.

    Crowley? Maybe Aldous Huxley. His soma, orgy porgy, fordism and memory hole-ing etc etc were prescient, as was his depiction of enlightened managerialism from a third worlder high up on the totem pole (Mustapha Mond)

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    He predicted, way way back in the 1900s that the present era would be one of utter chaos and confusion.
  196. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Someone needs to come up with a better phrase than conspicuous virtuous consumption (not that it's needed much: social justice mostly compels the inconspicuous consumption of its vices paid with virtue-signal credits).

    “Someone needs to come up with a better phrase than conspicuous virtuous consumption ”

    Virtue signalling

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  197. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon
    You have to hand it to Trump for trying to reverse a destructive liberal social policy. I don't think Jeb Bush would have done any such thing. I say "trying" because it is not certain this will take. I assume that somewhere there's a court challenge in the offing right now, and a federal judge who is champing at the bit to overstep the authority of his office.

    “You have to hand it to Trump for trying to reverse a destructive liberal social policy.”

    Sure, but aren’t there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority.

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    >Sure, but aren’t there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority

    He did 3 tweets on this. That's all.

    You don't understand. The point of this announcement is to make the Dems (and cuck GOP) react. It's to create a battle line with normal Americans on one side and traitor ruling class on the other. No shit this is a low priority. But he does 300 characters and now the democrats new agenda (better jobs better pizza) and their attempt to pivot away from the culture wars towards classic economic concerns has been blown right out of the news cycle.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Yes, there are more pressing issues, but that doesn't mean he has to do nothing about this. Besides there is an advantage to a full-court press. The Obama administration waged campaigns on every front of the culture war, and it kept conservatives off-guard. They had to defend against many assaults at once - socialized medicine, gun control, gay/trans-stuff, etc. If anything such an all-out attack might work better against the democrats, because they are a coalition of lots of little weirdo causes. If the trannies are fighting for their right to party in your bathroom, they might not be able to join the hispanics fighting for their right to latinize America (and vice-versa). To name just two examples.
    , @David Davenport
    The bathroom issue is pretty perfect for our age–it’s a great source of culture war and outrage (probably great for websites creating clickbait), and yet it’s a matter of very little actual importance.

    //////////////////////////////////////

    Sure, but aren’t there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority.

    Since the bathroom issue is of very little importance, and required Pres. Trump to spend only a little bit of time, no money, and no expenditure of political capital, why do you gents object?

    Methinks that you two are liars. The bathroom issue is near and dear to the likes of you two.

    Yes indeedy, the bathroom ban is a great culture war counter attack against the pservert Left.
  198. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Romanian
    Crowley? Maybe Aldous Huxley. His soma, orgy porgy, fordism and memory hole-ing etc etc were prescient, as was his depiction of enlightened managerialism from a third worlder high up on the totem pole (Mustapha Mond)

    He predicted, way way back in the 1900s that the present era would be one of utter chaos and confusion.

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  199. AM says:
    @Jack D
    Yes, the key is revealed preference -the way people actually act, not what they say. Talk is cheap if you don't have to walk the walk. Do you judge child molesting priests by the platitudes that they mouth from the pulpit or by what they actually do to little boys in the back room? These priests even believe what they are saying, they just rationalize that it somehow doesn't apply to them, just like Al Gore can fly around the world on a private jet and live in a 10,000 s.f. house but preach to us about global warming.

    Do you judge child molesting priests by the platitudes that they mouth from the pulpit or by what they actually do to little boys in the back room? These priests even believe what they are saying, they just rationalize that it somehow doesn’t apply to them, just like Al Gore can fly around the world on a private jet and live in a 10,000 s.f. house but preach to us about global warming.

    I assume you’re judging school teachers in the same manner? Public school teachers have way worse problems when it comes to molestation, except nobody cares and generally treats middle school teachers as though they are priests themselves.

    In fairness, and the Catholic church is rotting from the inside. You and others are correct to notice it. We will have more scandals before it’s done, because the clerics themselves actually do lack belief. The wiser churchmen have noted that lack of chasteness is found with lack of faith. They don’t actually believe the faith, but they won’t honestly give up the collars.

    But that said, to be angry about Priest scandals is wholly hypocritical, as I mentioned. Unless you’re rooting out the school teachers whose job is to educate, this is stance is about tearing down someone else’s faith for the purposes of substituting materialism.

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  200. AM says:
    @Father O'Hara
    Always wondered about that census story. If you have to leave your town...doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of the census?

    “Always wondered about that census story. If you have to leave your town…doesn’t that defeat the whole purpose of the census?”

    Not if you’re trying to count up whole families in one spot, at their point of orgin. Or you don’t want to send a census guy to every town and you can make them come to you. That’s two reasons off the top of my head before the postal service existed why that might make sense.

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  201. Wency says:
    @JimB
    I can't understand why woman haven't spoken with a unified voice against permitting female imposters from using women's bathrooms. Men are slobs, and men's bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.

    No matter how you shake and dance the last drop ends up in your pants, and the other 10 drops end up on the floor.

    More importantly, separate bathrooms exist to protect women and girls from men. Particularly deranged men — e.g., the sort of man who will cut his dick off to fulfill a sexual fantasy. Men who might assault them, spy on them, expose themselves, make lewd comments, etc. Women — particularly young women — are the biggest supporters of the trans nonsense (besides the trannies themselves) and also the most likely victims.

    My theory is that one determined Andy Kaufman type could destroy the whole trans bathroom idea in a very short time. Go around the country, causing trouble in women’s restrooms, insisting that he’s a woman while making no effort to appear female, and making it a civil rights issue when people complain. Then at some point, when the damage was done, he’d decide he was a man after all and never admit to anything.

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    Andy Kaufman proved that anyone can get really famous if they are willing to be what anyone else would consider debased enough.

    He was utterly bereft of "decency" and I don't miss him.

    Not even a little.

    Ever.
    , @prole
    True...most Americans seem to assume that Transsexuals have had their genitals removed, but most actually keep their genitals....most would have been considered transvestites 20 years ago. Should Transvestites be allowed in the girls room ?
    , @ben tillman

    My theory is that one determined Andy Kaufman type could destroy the whole trans bathroom idea in a very short time. Go around the country, causing trouble in women’s restrooms, insisting that he’s a woman while making no effort to appear female, and making it a civil rights issue when people complain.
     
    You may have identified the next money-making project for the Westboro Baptist Church.
  202. Rapparee says:
    @anonymous coward

    Or is this some kind of religious mania?
     
    It's religious. Europe always had a relatively large and powerful Gnostic minority.

    The Gnostics believe that the material world in all its forms is evil, and that the pure and good exists only in the form of abstract thoughts.

    From these axioms they derive that childbirth is inherently immoral and evil, as are sex acts that lead to childbirth. From this they further derive that the best kind of people are the sexless (genderless) and sterile ones. In historical times they widely practiced castration (thus there's numerous places in Christian canon law dealing specifically with castration), but today they've replaced it with 'transgenderism'. (The physical effect is the same, but the social stigma slightly less when they ditched the historical baggage of the castration meme.)

    This is also the reason for homomania; Gnostics were always homo-friendly in historical times. (But of course they consider transgenderism/castration as 'better' because gays still retain the physical capability to give birth to children, even if they can't form families.)

    But ultimately their goal is to destroy family formation. They rightly view the nuclear family as the root that perpetuates society. Anything that prevents healthy nuclear families they view as an ultimately good thing.

    P.S. This is also the reason for 'modern art'. Gnostics find realistic representation abhorrent, and the concept of beauty even more so. The only art they accept is either a completely abstract kind, without reference to any physically existing item or thing, or the ugly kind that causes a visceral disgust at the material realities of life.

    This was my thought as well. Peaceful and prosperous societies seem to independently breed this kind of contempt for biological and material reality. I don’t think modern Americans picked it up by reading Ancient neo-Platonist mystics, though- it seems to be a natural temptation for human beings in every civilisation. Man, as an amalgam of animal body and rational soul, exists in perpetual tension with himself. Men in rich nations often resolve that tension by denigrating the flesh as a cursed hindrance to the independent perfection of the spirit. Whether you blame a Demiurge or “institutionalised sexism” doesn’t make a whole lot of difference. Bruce Jenner thinks he’s psychologically a woman trapped in a man’s body, just as Cathars thought themselves angelic intellects trapped in animal bodies.

    Neo-Gnostic contempt for physical matter also spurs contempt for the obvious in favor of the esoteric, another driver of the modern art you mentioned. Sure, Mozart sounds better than Schoenberg to you ignorant rubes, but that’s just because you haven’t studied enough- rational, sophisticated people know better. Likewise, suppressing your natural revulsion toward ugly men dressed as women not only proves your mastery over your own bestial instincts, but lets you pity the poor uneducated suckers who can’t look past “surface appearances” to see the “true inner reality”. The more esoteric and counter-intuitive your beliefs, the greater your inner spiritual perfection and superiority to the mass of animalistic men- thus the virtue-signalling spiral. Best of all, you don’t actually have to restrain yourself from the sins that really do tempt you, allowing you to combine all the fun of indulging your favorite sins with moral self-assurance of your own holiness and perfection.

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  203. New Republic article previews the 2018 elections. President Trump will fight for traditional Americans in his defense of the historic American national identity. President Trump will smash the treasonous rat Democrats once again on trade, immigration and national identity.

    President Trump will have to drag the Republican Party over the finish line in the 2018 elections. President Trump will have to say that the Democrats want more nation-wrecking mass legal immigration; more importation of illegal alien invaders; and more REFUGEE OVERLOAD.

    President Trump will have to say that importing Muslims brings Islamic terrorism and multicultural mayhem to the United States. President Trump will have to say that reducing legal immigration will boost wages, lower housing costs and provide for more opportunities for young people to be able to enjoy AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION. President Trump will have to rip the Democrat Party to shreds. President Trump must destroy those evil bastards in the Democrat party.

    Trump Wants a Culture War. Are Democrats Ready to Fight Back? https://newrepublic.com/article/144092/trump-wants-culture-war-democrats-ready-fight-back

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  204. I was a stay at home dad for my kids from when my daughter was born and oldest was about 2. The changing tables in bathrooms- I very occasionally used, but tried to avoid. 1st, because men’s bathrooms are dirty even if the changing table is clean-and you’re not just trying to keep the baby clean: you’re trying to keep the other kid clean, and the diaper bag clean, and whatever packages you have clean. Tough job. 2nd: the tables themselves, by being high enough to work at (about the height of an ironing board), are also high enough to be a falling danger for the baby-which just inflates the stress, pressure, and need for physical control tremendously.

    Much easier to run out to the car and change the baby either in the cargo section of the van with the hatchback up, or even in the passenger seat.

    Joeyjoe

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  205. peterike says:
    @NOTA
    Oh, the horror of Trump, rolling the military back to the dark days of June 2016 when Obama announced the new policy wrt transpeople.

    Oh, the horror of Trump, rolling the military back to the dark days of June 2016 when Obama announced the new policy wrt transpeople.

    Ratchets only move in one direction. The Progs have every reason to expect that ANY movement forward is a ratchet movement, because it never gets rolled back. This move by Trump might actually be the first backwards push of the Prog movement since… well, since ever. When else have they ever lost ground?

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    When else have they ever lost ground?
     
    The expansion of gun rights/concealed carry/stand your ground laws, for starters, over recent decades.
    , @Clark Westwood

    Ratchets only move in one direction.
     
    A few years ago, I listened to Patrick Allitt's series of lectures on the conservative tradition (link below). The period covered by the lectures -- from the late 18th century to the present -- was basically one long, steady, depressing retreat by conservatism in the West.

    http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/conservative-tradition.html
    , @NOTA
    The progressive left lost ground on tough-on-crime policies (mandatory minimums, three strikes laws), gun control in many states (lots more places have permissive CCW permits now), and economic regulation (antitrust laws are much less enforced now, nobody's trying to run a government cartel for airline or trucking rates). Affirmative action in education has been pushed back quite a bit at the state level, and also has been pushed back on some by Supreme Court decisions.

    Cthulhu doesn't actually always swim left.
    , @Curle
    Paul Ryan and the other R sellouts sometimes make little disapproving sounds as the Rachel moves Left. Does that count?
    , @biz

    When else have they ever lost ground?
     
    - gun rights have been steadily expanding for decades
    - the reinstatement and re-use of the death penalty starting in the late 70s (although arguably slowly being walked back lately)
    - tough on crime and harsh sentencing policies in the 90s (although talk of walking back lately)
    - steady movement of public education to a constant standardized test based model (yes, there is left and right collusion in this but it was primarily driven by Republicans e.g. GWB and primarily opposed by liberals)
    - so-called "Right to Work" laws in many states
    - the growth of charter schools
    - SCOTUS decisions and voter initiatives (even in California!) narrowing the scope of affirmative action considerably
    - repeal of many financial sector regulations in the 90s (walked back only partially by Dodd-Frank)
    - general movement of culture toward being more materialistic and money-centric (certainly a problem of both the left and right but more traditionally opposed by the left)

    That's just off the top of my head.

  206. @wren
    'Do you remember,' he went on, 'writing in your diary, "Freedom is the freedom to say that a man has a penis"?'

    'Yes,' said Winston.

    O'Brien unbuttoned his trousers to expose his penis.

    'Am I a woman, Winston?'

    'No.'

    'And if the party says that a woman has a penis-- then am I a woman?'

    'No.'

    The word ended in a gasp of pain. The needle of the dial had shot up to fifty-five. The sweat had sprung out all over Winston's body. The air tore into his lungs and issued again in deep groans which even by clenching his teeth he could not stop. O'Brien watched him, his penis exposed. He drew back the lever. This time the pain was only slightly eased.

    'Am I a woman, Winston?'

    'No.'

    The needle went up to sixty.

    'Am I a woman, Winston?'

    'No! No! What else can I say? No!'

    The needle must have risen again, but he did not look at it. The heavy, stern face and the penis filled his vision. The penis stood up before his eyes like a pillar, enormous, blurry, and seeming to vibrate, but unmistakably a penis.

    'Am I a woman, Winston?'

    'No! Stop it, stop it! How can you go on? NO! No!'

    'Am I a woman, Winston?'

    'Yes! Yes! Yes!'

    'No, Winston, that is no use. You are lying. You still think I am a man. Am I a woman?'

    'No! Yes! No! Anything you like. Only stop it, stop the pain!'

    That update of 1984 is awesome!

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    I think I screwed it up a bit. I should have had Winston say that freedom is the freedom to say that a woman doesn't have a penis.

    It is funny though that it fits so nicely with that vibrating pillar of his finger (in Orwell's) not to mention that we are no longer allowed to believe our lying eyes.
  207. anonguy says:
    @peterike

    Oh, the horror of Trump, rolling the military back to the dark days of June 2016 when Obama announced the new policy wrt transpeople.

     

    Ratchets only move in one direction. The Progs have every reason to expect that ANY movement forward is a ratchet movement, because it never gets rolled back. This move by Trump might actually be the first backwards push of the Prog movement since... well, since ever. When else have they ever lost ground?

    When else have they ever lost ground?

    The expansion of gun rights/concealed carry/stand your ground laws, for starters, over recent decades.

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  208. @peterike

    Oh, the horror of Trump, rolling the military back to the dark days of June 2016 when Obama announced the new policy wrt transpeople.

     

    Ratchets only move in one direction. The Progs have every reason to expect that ANY movement forward is a ratchet movement, because it never gets rolled back. This move by Trump might actually be the first backwards push of the Prog movement since... well, since ever. When else have they ever lost ground?

    Ratchets only move in one direction.

    A few years ago, I listened to Patrick Allitt’s series of lectures on the conservative tradition (link below). The period covered by the lectures — from the late 18th century to the present — was basically one long, steady, depressing retreat by conservatism in the West.

    http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/conservative-tradition.html

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    This is like what Tolkien's elves called "The Long Defeat". Except the elves at least were able to retreat to Valinor.
  209. NOTA says:
    @peterike

    Oh, the horror of Trump, rolling the military back to the dark days of June 2016 when Obama announced the new policy wrt transpeople.

     

    Ratchets only move in one direction. The Progs have every reason to expect that ANY movement forward is a ratchet movement, because it never gets rolled back. This move by Trump might actually be the first backwards push of the Prog movement since... well, since ever. When else have they ever lost ground?

    The progressive left lost ground on tough-on-crime policies (mandatory minimums, three strikes laws), gun control in many states (lots more places have permissive CCW permits now), and economic regulation (antitrust laws are much less enforced now, nobody’s trying to run a government cartel for airline or trucking rates). Affirmative action in education has been pushed back quite a bit at the state level, and also has been pushed back on some by Supreme Court decisions.

    Cthulhu doesn’t actually always swim left.

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    Pretty much it does, but yes, gun rights and arguably abortion have been where the Right has been able to make a successful stand on it. I would also position charter schools and homeschooling in general, even as prayer in schools has been a lost fight.
  210. @Anonymous
    "You have to hand it to Trump for trying to reverse a destructive liberal social policy."

    Sure, but aren't there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority.

    >Sure, but aren’t there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority

    He did 3 tweets on this. That’s all.

    You don’t understand. The point of this announcement is to make the Dems (and cuck GOP) react. It’s to create a battle line with normal Americans on one side and traitor ruling class on the other. No shit this is a low priority. But he does 300 characters and now the democrats new agenda (better jobs better pizza) and their attempt to pivot away from the culture wars towards classic economic concerns has been blown right out of the news cycle.

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    The point of this announcement is to make the Dems (and cuck GOP) react.
     
    I don't the point was to get a reaction. I think they knew they had announce such a brain dead policy change at some point and Trump administration timed it, including using Twitter to get it out. 3 Tweets, no elaboration - just "no trannies need apply".

    My understanding is that General Mathis and the DoD spokeman are both on vacation. I think they knew it the announcement was going to make things insane for a least a week or longer.


    No shit this is a low priority. But he does 300 characters
     
    It seems like that was a low priority for the Trump admin, too. They want to talk about jobs. They don't want the headlines filled with tranny this and tranny that, which is how I've taken previous Trump responses on that point. But announce it on Twitter, in the summer, with key spokespeople on vacation, and that new poor press secretary is the only person answering questions. Goal is clearly to make it go away as quickly as possible, ideally within a few days.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Good point.

    The Democrats are the Party of Deviancy. Make them own it.
    , @SteveRogers42
    By Jove, I think you've got it!
  211. @NOTA
    The progressive left lost ground on tough-on-crime policies (mandatory minimums, three strikes laws), gun control in many states (lots more places have permissive CCW permits now), and economic regulation (antitrust laws are much less enforced now, nobody's trying to run a government cartel for airline or trucking rates). Affirmative action in education has been pushed back quite a bit at the state level, and also has been pushed back on some by Supreme Court decisions.

    Cthulhu doesn't actually always swim left.

    Pretty much it does, but yes, gun rights and arguably abortion have been where the Right has been able to make a successful stand on it. I would also position charter schools and homeschooling in general, even as prayer in schools has been a lost fight.

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  212. Ivy says:
    @AM

    I understand that we are all better off if we all pretend there is some Big Guy in the sky watching our every move and who will make us pay for eternity if we make a wrong one. Even if this is not true, it’s a highly useful fiction.
     
    It would really help if y'all got the theology right. People were never this stupid about their religion, even before Christianity. It's easy to be atheist when what you've got in your head is a child's cartoon of God, rather than the adult version.

    The adult version of judgement is a bit more like the Charles Dickens imagined it In a Christmas Carol, as in the creation or removal of chains around your soul. It's observable in the lives of people, if you pay attention. People, as they grow, either towards the Divine or towards evil will either gain peace or they will flail around in increasing internal torment. It just happens as function of time. In complex theology, people fall into Hell, from the sheer weight of their souls. The judgement is a shorthand way to think about it and in the moment you might need such a concept.

    The adult version of God is either the Judaic one, who is way more complex than some Big Guy in the sky or the Christian one, which covers every part of Divine experience - The Father (the Creator of life, not a dude in the sky), The Son (the power of sacrifice, the fallen nature of the world), and Holy Spirit - the feelings of nature and people around us having a sense of the Divine. It's Holy Mystery of The Trinity - not Santa Claus.

    But I don’t see why virgin birth is really a necessary element of Christianity (let alone for “everyone”).
     
    Tracey covered it well from one perspective, let me you give another angle. The only way The Son of God could be The Son of God is if he had no human father. Christ is both fully divine and fully human and it's not possible if he was conceived the normal way. Not only will the Son of God have power over death through resurrection, he must actually physically begotten, not made.

    But even if you don't believe any of that, the concept of Mary's sacrifice is critical. She is the model for sacrificial Motherhood - of a women not given to hedonism. I've read feminist critics and they're all garbage. Mary takes every risk for her son, and knowing she would be at the foot of the Cross to lose him there - and she does it anyway without even once asking for pleasure for herself.

    In age lost to hedonism and specifically female hedonism, why wouldn't you want her as role model for every woman you met?

    That sense or even awareness of the Holy Spirit is underappreciated in the current era, along with so much more.

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  213. @Veritatis
    Lincoln and Chesterton both come to mind. The first would ask his audience a riddle. "If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?" The audience answered "five". He countered: " Four, because calling a tail a leg does not make it a leg."

    Chesterton, looking at the problem from another angle, just observed that a man who does not believe in God will not then believe nothing, he will believe anything. And here we are.

    But what about the IQ angle, that explains so many things in societies?!? I'm waiting for a pertinent explanation.

    You have to be this smart in order to be this dumb, you see.

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  214. @AM

    Are you sure about that?
     
    Yes. Witches do not reappear as concept until the Renaissance and mostly by northern Protestants reeling from the Reformation, although there is some further south at about that time.

    Medieval Europe knew there was no such thing as a witch. But don't have to take my word for it. Look up the timelines yourself.


    However, there is no doubt that certain aspects of Medieval Christianity were not particularly Christian – Jesus (if he was around) would have been the first to say that making a big deal about bits of wood from the True Cross or the Holy Foreskin
     
    And? Christianity says every human is fallen. If we weren't all fallen, why the need for a savior? Christ's sacrifice is to cover sins just like those. We all attempt to not be that to follow in his foot steps, but we will fail.

    Also, you've really misunderstood Christ if you think that superstition was high the list of issues. It hardly even registers in the pantheon of sin. I'm not sure you're really in position to judge what he was trying to teach.


    At its best, religion distinguishes us from the lower animals but at its weakest it exploits certain flaws in human software –
     
    I see you're holding onto the view we are not really fallen, even has you acknowledge it. Religion was never a panacea. But people without religion believe themselves to be good. They will re-fashion their mirror into the Divine. That's the weakness in the software that atheism exploits.

    for example the idea that the magnificent spirit of certain humans or beasts attaches to pieces of them or objects that have touched them or to certain places and that if you can possess or even touch a bit of those then the greatness will in turn rub off on you.
     

    This quite an extraordinary assertion. Do you have any hard proof that it does not work? At any rate, if the unwillingness to be a strict materialist is a sin, it's news to me. I thought violating the 10 Commandments was much, much worse on any day of the week.

    The whole tranny thing was a result of the Left winning World War G.
     
    You lost me with this paragraph. The whole tranny thing is a result of the loss of the Divine in the West. The Divine is now who is in the mirror. And gods can change the universe with just the power of their mind.

    Yes. Witches do not reappear as concept until the Renaissance and mostly by northern Protestants reeling from the Reformation, although there is some further south at about that time.

    Witches appear as “concepts” in Classical literature, i.e. Medea. I don’t know where you get this assertion.

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    Medea was not a witch. She was a priestess and some kind of princess.
    , @AM

    Witches appear as “concepts” in Classical literature, i.e. Medea. I don’t know where you get this assertion.
     
    If you read one of the other posts here, during the middle ages, the catechism was that witches were not real. To accuse someone of being a witch was a crime. It's like how everyone laughs at the idea of a flat earth and witches now.

    I apologize about the poor wording, but it's not until the cusp of the Renaissance that people start to imagine witches are real again, hitting a high tide soon after the Reformation.
  215. @Veritatis
    Lincoln and Chesterton both come to mind. The first would ask his audience a riddle. "If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?" The audience answered "five". He countered: " Four, because calling a tail a leg does not make it a leg."

    Chesterton, looking at the problem from another angle, just observed that a man who does not believe in God will not then believe nothing, he will believe anything. And here we are.

    But what about the IQ angle, that explains so many things in societies?!? I'm waiting for a pertinent explanation.

    But what about the IQ angle, that explains so many things in societies?!? I’m waiting for a pertinent explanation.

    It’s the rise of the “Clever Sillies.” People with high IQs aren’t just normal people with a higher HP brain, high IQ is associated with personality traits and is a certain disposition. It’s arisen in the modern world in part because we now stay in schools uninterrupted for 20+ years.

    http://medicalhypotheses.blogspot.com/2009/11/clever-sillies-why-high-iq-lack-common.html

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  216. @Alden
    They only cut off the balls. The penis is hollowed out and then shoved up in the groin between 2 muscles. Then dilators are inserted to create a hole lined with the skin of the penis. Various problems occur. One is that hair grows between the muscles and the penis skin and it itches

    I will refrain from asking how you know this . . .

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  217. Alden says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Yes. Witches do not reappear as concept until the Renaissance and mostly by northern Protestants reeling from the Reformation, although there is some further south at about that time.
     
    Witches appear as "concepts" in Classical literature, i.e. Medea. I don't know where you get this assertion.

    Medea was not a witch. She was a priestess and some kind of princess.

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  218. Corvinus says:
    @The Z Blog
    I had a post the other day about tribal signalling. I think it is possible that the Cult of Modern Liberalism picks up issues like trannies as a form of self-defense. In order to be in their thing, you have to accept some form of lunacy. A decade ago that meant embracing homosexuality. Now, the Proud Boys are all super-gay so the Progs need something even nuttier. Now you have to be pro-tranny.

    Once Jonah Goldberg writes "The Conservative Case of Chopping of Your Junk", the Progs will find some new lunacy to embrace.

    “I had a post the other day about tribal signalling.”

    Speaking of your posts, your website has apparently been scrubbed. What happened?

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  219. AM says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Yes. Witches do not reappear as concept until the Renaissance and mostly by northern Protestants reeling from the Reformation, although there is some further south at about that time.
     
    Witches appear as "concepts" in Classical literature, i.e. Medea. I don't know where you get this assertion.

    Witches appear as “concepts” in Classical literature, i.e. Medea. I don’t know where you get this assertion.

    If you read one of the other posts here, during the middle ages, the catechism was that witches were not real. To accuse someone of being a witch was a crime. It’s like how everyone laughs at the idea of a flat earth and witches now.

    I apologize about the poor wording, but it’s not until the cusp of the Renaissance that people start to imagine witches are real again, hitting a high tide soon after the Reformation.

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  220. AM says:
    @German_reader

    Medieval Europeans didn’t believe in witches
     
    That's only correct insofar as the paranoia over witches reached its heights in the early modern era (promoted by ecclesiastical figures like the Dominican inquisitor Heinrich Kramer who wrote the Malleus maleficarum; in Britain the first Stuart king James I also was a great believer in witches and wrote treatises about them), but of course plenty of Christians during the Middle Ages did believe in magic, witches etc.

    This happened too, at the end of Rome and Greece.
     
    The Roman Empire in the west collapsed when it had become officially Christian, the truly decadent stuff (Elagabalus etc.) happened much earlier.

    but of course plenty of Christians during the Middle Ages did believe in magic, witches etc.

    As another points out, in the early and middle Medival Era it was crime to accuse someone of being a witch. You personally could be punished for it.

    Again, if you don’t believe me, look at time lines for actual witch hunts. There are none until the edge of the Renaissance.

    The average medieval Christian would have just laughed at you for accusing people of being witches, just like people do right now. Yeah, you’d get people suffering from mental illness worried about witches – but now they’ve switched to UFOs and the like.

    The Roman Empire in the west collapsed when it had become officially Christian, the truly decadent stuff (Elagabalus etc.) happened much earlier.

    Yes, the Christians in the Roman West probably went long way to preventing all of Europe from descending into complete chaos as Rome fell. The point was that the tranny stuff is a serious warning sign of a society in decay.

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    As another points out, in the early and middle Medival Era it was crime to accuse someone of being a witch. You personally could be punished for it.
     
    It was a crime if you couldn't prove it, then the accuser was punished (lex talionis)...this tended to limit accusations for witchcraft during the early and high middles ages. Later this principle was given up due to changes in the general judicial order, and this was one of the factors in the explosive growth of witchcraft trials in the early modern age.
    It's true that some early medieval texts (e.g. the Canon episcopi from the 9th century) took a somewhat sceptical attitude towards some forms of popular belief in witchcraft. But the attitude of the ecclesiastical authorities wasn't uniform, and in any case your "average medieval Christian" was an uneducated peasant - of course plenty of those believed in magic, witches etc., just as they had always done.
  221. AM says:
    @27 year old
    >Sure, but aren’t there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority

    He did 3 tweets on this. That's all.

    You don't understand. The point of this announcement is to make the Dems (and cuck GOP) react. It's to create a battle line with normal Americans on one side and traitor ruling class on the other. No shit this is a low priority. But he does 300 characters and now the democrats new agenda (better jobs better pizza) and their attempt to pivot away from the culture wars towards classic economic concerns has been blown right out of the news cycle.

    The point of this announcement is to make the Dems (and cuck GOP) react.

    I don’t the point was to get a reaction. I think they knew they had announce such a brain dead policy change at some point and Trump administration timed it, including using Twitter to get it out. 3 Tweets, no elaboration – just “no trannies need apply”.

    My understanding is that General Mathis and the DoD spokeman are both on vacation. I think they knew it the announcement was going to make things insane for a least a week or longer.

    No shit this is a low priority. But he does 300 characters

    It seems like that was a low priority for the Trump admin, too. They want to talk about jobs. They don’t want the headlines filled with tranny this and tranny that, which is how I’ve taken previous Trump responses on that point. But announce it on Twitter, in the summer, with key spokespeople on vacation, and that new poor press secretary is the only person answering questions. Goal is clearly to make it go away as quickly as possible, ideally within a few days.

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  222. BB753 says:
    @Alden
    I don't think they need electrolysis. I think the estrogen and other hormones make body and face hair drop out naturally.

    Interesting that just as men are demanding massive doses of estrogen and other female hormones, doctors have stopped giving estrogen treatments to women for menopause because the consensus is that hormone therapy causes cancer. So now we'll have to pay for their cancer treatments as well as lifelong hormones.

    Is there such a thing as consensus in medicine?

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  223. Tracy says: • Website
    @NOTA
    When my kids were in diapers, I used them all the time. *Way* nicer than changing a kid on the disgusting floor of the mens room.

    I see changing stations in men’s rooms not as a matter of women demanding that men do their “fair share,” but of easing men’s ability to go out alone with their kids and deal with them adequately. A man goes out to McD’s with his 1-year old, and the kid needs a diaper change, where’s that supposed to happen? Not in the restaurant, I hope. There should be changing stations in men’s rooms, definitely.

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    OK, but how long until freaks calling themselves "Trans Babies" show up and have people change their dirty diapers on the changing stations in public bathrooms?
  224. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    No, Bruce Jenner isn't just a woman. She's a woman who's hung like a horse.

    No, Bruce Jenner isn’t just a woman. She’s a woman who’s hung like a horse.

    If xe wasn’t before, if it hasn’t been lopped off or refurbished into a pseudovadge, , xe is now.

    A side effect of hormone treatment to make men grow boobs and “feminize” them ironically causes penis growth, sometimes enormous penis growth. In the 90s I had to peruse Al Goldstein’s publication for professional reasons and I remember seeing the pictures of these unfortunate individuals. It was very common for them to have what looked like 8 to 9 inches flaccid.

    Whether they still were ever any other way, I don’t know. The two pro wrestlers I knew who had enormous members said that pre-steroids they were normal, but at least it still worked, whereas now they were completely impotent.

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    Not so
    Giving estrogens +/or LHRH agonists(Lupron or Zoladex)to males causes both testicular and penile atrophy
  225. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Wency
    More importantly, separate bathrooms exist to protect women and girls from men. Particularly deranged men -- e.g., the sort of man who will cut his dick off to fulfill a sexual fantasy. Men who might assault them, spy on them, expose themselves, make lewd comments, etc. Women -- particularly young women -- are the biggest supporters of the trans nonsense (besides the trannies themselves) and also the most likely victims.

    My theory is that one determined Andy Kaufman type could destroy the whole trans bathroom idea in a very short time. Go around the country, causing trouble in women's restrooms, insisting that he's a woman while making no effort to appear female, and making it a civil rights issue when people complain. Then at some point, when the damage was done, he'd decide he was a man after all and never admit to anything.

    Andy Kaufman proved that anyone can get really famous if they are willing to be what anyone else would consider debased enough.

    He was utterly bereft of “decency” and I don’t miss him.

    Not even a little.

    Ever.

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    I never got Kaufman's shtick or thought he was funny.
  226. It seems to me that what we’re seeing here is the detachment of gender from sex.
    Bruce Jenner can transition from man to woman, but not from male to female.

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  227. @Tracy
    I see changing stations in men's rooms not as a matter of women demanding that men do their "fair share," but of easing men's ability to go out alone with their kids and deal with them adequately. A man goes out to McD's with his 1-year old, and the kid needs a diaper change, where's that supposed to happen? Not in the restaurant, I hope. There should be changing stations in men's rooms, definitely.

    OK, but how long until freaks calling themselves “Trans Babies” show up and have people change their dirty diapers on the changing stations in public bathrooms?

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Oh God. I can't unsee that image.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Soon.
    , @SteveRogers42
    The prototypes are being rolled out as we speak:

    http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/and-now-for-something-completely-different-adult-baby-diaper-lovers/
  228. @Dave Pinsen
    What does the "minimal charge" refer to? You had lunch there?

    At the Grand Hotel on Mackinac Island, Michigan, they charge $10 to walk around the hotel. That seems reasonable to me.

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    I spent three hours walking around a resort that is about as famous as the Grand Hotel on Mackinac, and I gave the valet parker a $20 tip. He was shocked by how much I gave him, but I told him that I had had a great time without spending much money, so somebody ought to profit off it.
  229. An obvious point, probably made somewhere in the previous comments, and I just overlooked it:

    Penis or no penis, if you don’t want to sit down to urinate, you don’t truly self-identify as a woman, right? I’m told, however, that the mess women leave by squatting over the toilets in public restrooms, rather than sitting on them, is a nuisance that most guys (cisgendered ones, that is) don’t know about.

    So, if you’re a woman who is nevertheless equipped with a penis, you have an unfair advantage. You don’t have to squat to avoid any mess left behind. A urinal in the woman’s room enhances that advantage. It’s a form of privilege that may cause a rift in the LBGTQQ community.

    We are living in strange times.

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  230. @David
    Funny but prank phone calls are immoral. If each man just started to subject his actions to the golden-rule test, we'd suddenly stop living in a land of jerks.

    Funny but prank phone calls are immoral. If each man just started to subject his actions to the golden-rule test, we’d suddenly stop living in a land of jerks.

    Yeah, you’re probably right, Dave, but even so, do you mind answering a related question?

    Is your refrigerator running?

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  231. @pedro
    I have to say all this restroom furor is silly. Public bathrooms are simply becoming unisex. It allows for more efficient distribution of resources at times of peak use. And they have not ended civilization in Europe.

    And they have not ended civilization in Europe.

    Maybe the tranny perverts won’t, but the muzzums will.

    Europa is used up, done for, a goner.

    You have nothing to brag about, Pedro.

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  232. wren says:
    @Clark Westwood
    That update of 1984 is awesome!

    I think I screwed it up a bit. I should have had Winston say that freedom is the freedom to say that a woman doesn’t have a penis.

    It is funny though that it fits so nicely with that vibrating pillar of his finger (in Orwell’s) not to mention that we are no longer allowed to believe our lying eyes.

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  233. @oddsbodkins
    No true Scottsman has a vagina.

    No true Scottsman has a vagina.

    Thank you! I rarely laugh out loud, but that cracked me up!

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  234. @Buffalo Joe
    unit, The Bills stadium, since remodeled, just had maybe one stall per men's restroom and a stainless trough, with flowing water, against one wall. There was also a foot operated circular hand sink in the middle of the john, guys would surround it and pee away, sort of like a circular firing squad. Never saw anyone washing their hands. Women were always welcome.

    Hey Joe, good times. I laugh at these millennials and their girly washroom habits. The communal pissing trough was a feature of every stadium men’s room and most older large public schools. Also that foot-operated circular communal hand washer. Today’s metrosexuals heads would explode if they had to take a leak in the old Maple Leaf Gardens.

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  235. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Alec Leamas
    OK, but how long until freaks calling themselves "Trans Babies" show up and have people change their dirty diapers on the changing stations in public bathrooms?

    Oh God. I can’t unsee that image.

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  236. @THF
    The most likely scenario is that the resort is converting its restrooms from single-sex to non-gender specific to avoid disputes over transgender guests.

    Maybe they designed to restroom so it could be changed from a women’s room to a men’s room if the hotel is hosting an event with few women (gay convention, baseball statistics convention, ham radio convention, etc.).

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  237. @TWS
    You got that right. Goldberg or Pod the Lesser will write it mark my words.

    That would be a fun alt-right exercise: write “The Conservative Case of Chopping of Your Junk” in the style of various NR-niks. Bloggers could draw straws for each of the classical styles: Goldberg’s pseudo-dialectic, Podhoertz’s whiny histrionics, Williamson’s smug fatuousness, thot-of-the-week’s fake girl edgyness, David French’s rolling-in-the-mud groveling, etc.

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    1. There are too many men already and some don't have wives. More women, or at least less men, means more men get laid and are less likely to blow themselves up.

    2. It's ergodynamically more efficient.

    3. It will resolve the Pay Gap.

    This could actually be a pretty good thread!
  238. @Clark Westwood

    Ratchets only move in one direction.
     
    A few years ago, I listened to Patrick Allitt's series of lectures on the conservative tradition (link below). The period covered by the lectures -- from the late 18th century to the present -- was basically one long, steady, depressing retreat by conservatism in the West.

    http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/conservative-tradition.html

    This is like what Tolkien’s elves called “The Long Defeat”. Except the elves at least were able to retreat to Valinor.

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  239. 2Mintzin1 says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    Jim, read what Kylie says, but I will tell you from my experience facilitating events at a local venue, the women's restroom is always a disaster. Women squatting over the toilet, but not sitting down and peeing everywhere but in the bowl and women covering every exposed area of the porcelain with TP and then peeing all over it and leaving it to dry where it lands. Years since we have had cigarette butts in the urinals though.

    “Years since we have had cigarette butts in the urinals though.”
    I remember that. Really disgusting. They were soggy and hard to light.

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  240. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “Reproduction and sex are important religious themes.”

    Not only religious, but biological too. However, that was before biology became a “social construct.”

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  241. guest says:
    @The preferred nomenclature is...
    M*A*S*H is out and having watched a few Seinfeld re-runs of late (after having not done so for a few years), I believe admitting to watching Seinfeld will be akin to admitting to reading Mein Kampf.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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  242. guest says:
    @JimB
    I can't understand why woman haven't spoken with a unified voice against permitting female imposters from using women's bathrooms. Men are slobs, and men's bathrooms tend to reek from rank puddles of pee accumulating around urinals and toilets, alike.

    No matter how you shake and dance the last drop ends up in your pants, and the other 10 drops end up on the floor.

    Oh used to be a janitor. Men’s rooms had more bodily fluids, minus blood. In every other respect women’s were messier, and by a margin that more than made up for the pee, poo, and dirt gap.

    Men’s rooms had more giant piles of dirt on the ground, when that happened to happen, which was only occasionally.

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  243. prole says:
    @Wency
    More importantly, separate bathrooms exist to protect women and girls from men. Particularly deranged men -- e.g., the sort of man who will cut his dick off to fulfill a sexual fantasy. Men who might assault them, spy on them, expose themselves, make lewd comments, etc. Women -- particularly young women -- are the biggest supporters of the trans nonsense (besides the trannies themselves) and also the most likely victims.

    My theory is that one determined Andy Kaufman type could destroy the whole trans bathroom idea in a very short time. Go around the country, causing trouble in women's restrooms, insisting that he's a woman while making no effort to appear female, and making it a civil rights issue when people complain. Then at some point, when the damage was done, he'd decide he was a man after all and never admit to anything.

    True…most Americans seem to assume that Transsexuals have had their genitals removed, but most actually keep their genitals….most would have been considered transvestites 20 years ago. Should Transvestites be allowed in the girls room ?

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  244. @Luke Lea
    Shouldn't the blind, deaf, and dumb have a right to serve in our armed forces? Surely accommodations could be made at minimal costs. And while their numbers might be small, their right to bear arms should not be infringed. At the very least, let us hope a District Judge somewhere puts a stay of our Commander-in-Chief's foolish decision until the Supreme Court can weigh in on the Constitutional issue involved. Human rights should trump our nation's ability to fight and win wars when those are the very values we seek to defend.

    Shouldn’t the blind, deaf, and dumb have a right to serve in our armed forces?

    The US constitution doesn’t allow for a standing army.

    As it exist now, a standing army is a tool of democracy and diversity ideology-pushing warmongers.

    Anything that weakens a standing army is good for restoring constitutional government.

    The militia is the true guard of constitutional freedoms, not a standing army.

    The people who most benefit from a overreaching federal government are diversity people.

    Morally speaking, diversity people should be the soldiers fighting for their PC ideals of diversity and democracy hegemony in foreign lands.

    Any military draft should first induct diversity people, and diversity people should be the first soldiers to go to any front line.

    Queers such as trans-genders should be very high on any diversity military draft list.

    Diversity people should be drafted and forced to fight for their PC diversity freedoms:

    Feminist
    Queers
    Jewish
    Zionist
    Military Veterans
    Disabled
    Muslims
    Afro-Blacks
    Hispanics and Latinos
    Asians
    Crony Capitalist
    International Socialist

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  245. Hockamaw says:
    @snorlax
    It's like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus' dried scrotum sweat.

    As you've observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women's-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who'd dare mock God's cotton-polyester blend.

    The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus’ dried scrotum sweat.

    Outstanding comment. Bravo.

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  246. Hockamaw says:
    @Alden
    There is also the demand that the holy trans icon of tampax Kotex vending machines be installed in men's rooms because "menstruation is a right"

    Some college trans clubs are already demanding this.

    Last night I watched Tucker Carlson. He had a dim congress critter on, a man, claiming that there are thousands of trannies serving in the military "with distinction". What's serving with distinction? Probably doing their job and not getting into trouble.

    I wish Carlson had asked the congress critter exactly how many trannies are actually in the military. Supposedly there are less than 10,000 I the whole country, so how many can there be in the military?
    Thank god Trump stopped it. Otherwise every wanna be tranny under 35 in the country would join up to get the expensive hormones and surgery to effect the change. There is also a lot of psychological treatment and anti psycho drugs involved.
    I keep wondering , what is the next liberal cause? How totally insane will it be?

    I keep wondering , what is the next liberal cause?

    They’re going to figure out some kind of way to make polygamy legal for Muslims, Africans, and hipsters (but still illegal for Mormons) and then try to force that on everybody.

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  247. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous
    "You have to hand it to Trump for trying to reverse a destructive liberal social policy."

    Sure, but aren't there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority.

    Yes, there are more pressing issues, but that doesn’t mean he has to do nothing about this. Besides there is an advantage to a full-court press. The Obama administration waged campaigns on every front of the culture war, and it kept conservatives off-guard. They had to defend against many assaults at once – socialized medicine, gun control, gay/trans-stuff, etc. If anything such an all-out attack might work better against the democrats, because they are a coalition of lots of little weirdo causes. If the trannies are fighting for their right to party in your bathroom, they might not be able to join the hispanics fighting for their right to latinize America (and vice-versa). To name just two examples.

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    Yes, there are more pressing issues, but that doesn’t mean he has to do nothing about this. Besides there is an advantage to a full-court press.
     
    Remember Reagon taking down PATCO? That is the kind of confident stroke we need. The opposition are complete paper tigers grown fierce in a culture of absolute permissiveness.
  248. Mr. Anon says:
    @27 year old
    >Sure, but aren’t there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority

    He did 3 tweets on this. That's all.

    You don't understand. The point of this announcement is to make the Dems (and cuck GOP) react. It's to create a battle line with normal Americans on one side and traitor ruling class on the other. No shit this is a low priority. But he does 300 characters and now the democrats new agenda (better jobs better pizza) and their attempt to pivot away from the culture wars towards classic economic concerns has been blown right out of the news cycle.

    Good point.

    The Democrats are the Party of Deviancy. Make them own it.

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  249. Mr. Anon says:

    OT: When going to Mexico, you used to be told “don’t drink the water”. Now, apparently, you can’t even trust the hooch:

    Tainted alcohol served at mexican resorts

    Coming to a country near you!

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    1. I call BS - "Tests from the local hospital stated that her blood-alcohol level was 0.25. His was 0.26, the hospital report said." No amount of tainting or drugs will cause the American turista's BA from a drink or two to be .26. OTOH, downing a handle of tequila each will do that. People who drink too much, especially women, are always imagining that they have been roofied because they can't admit to themselves or anyone else how much they actually drank.

    2. That being said, many brands of tequila in Mexico are sold in bottles with clever little one way valves on the neck - you can pour out of the bottle but there's no way to pour back in. This is mostly to keep bars from refilling the bottles of brand name good stuff with rotgut. But untaxed ethanol goes for about $1.60 per 200 proof gallon, so a 750 ml bottle of tequila has maybe 15 cents worth of ethanol in it. Then a few cents more for some powdered agave flavoring. There's no profit in crooks using anything poisonous to save a few pennies - even if the Mexican justice system sucks (and it does ) it's not worth the risk of being accused of murder to save a few pennies when you are already making several $ in profit.
  250. @Jack D
    Wouldn't it attract attention if you were wearing a nice blazer and good shoes in the swimming pool?

    Once we were visiting Colorado Springs and one of my wife's friends had told her that we should have tea at the Broadmoor (meaning of course British style afternoon tea with crumpets and jam and sandwiches with the crust cut off, etc.). I don't know what the whole spread costs there but it's surely overpriced for what it is - I'd rather pay for a real meal with some quality protein in it than a bunch of overpriced biscuits presented on a fancy tray. How many scones can you eat?

    So we were wandering about the hotel grounds as Steve suggests and we happened to walk past a conference where they had tea and coffee set up in the lobby outside for the attendees so I grabbed a paper cup and a tea bag and filled it with hot water and handed it to my wife . Here you go, now you can tell your friend that we had "tea at the Broadmoor" . I hear about it to this day.

    A close friend is a Kind of Big Deal in entertainment (behind the scenes). We’ve mostly lost touch, plus I’m too old and misanthropic to go in for such things much now anyhow, but he used to always have my name on some list for free tickets, backstage passes, etc. at concerts. We’d hang out on the tour buses, he’d show me around before the show, sometimes I’d meet the musicians – (((Adam Duritz))) is a prick, by the way. Anyhow, sometimes he couldn’t meet me front-of-house because he was busy with his job setting up all the technical junk for the show, and he also hadn’t made prior arrangements with the box-office to let me in, give me tickets, etc. He’d tell me via phone “Look, man, just come in such-and-such a door, go down thus-and-such hallways, and you’ll some out at this location, where I can meet you in fifteen minutes.”

    The first time it went thus I was worried. “What about the security staff? Won’t they waylay me and throw me out? I don’t want to cause any trouble for you.”

    He’d chuckle. “As long as you walk with purpose as if you know where you are going and you have something to do when you get there, no one will think anything of it. They’ll assume you belong here: the crew, the caterer, a merchandise guy, or whatever.”

    He was absolutely right. To this day I use the lessons learned in this context. It’s amazingly easy to bluff through any number of such situations; it’s ninety per cent a matter of confidence and not acting squirrely.

    As others point out, one can easily mooch from catered buffets for this or that meeting in a hôtel, gatecrash conferences and festivals, etc. Weddings and similar functions where those present are likely to know all the attendees – and somewhat intimately, since people don’t generally invite their mailman to a wedding – are still a bad bet, but I suppose if the there are a large enough amount of guests, one might be overlooked as the unknown date of an invitee, with the observer who may arch an eyebrow too apathetic or too busy to bother investigating exactly which invitee….

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    A lot of it is a matter of dressing the part, as well as looking confident as you say. If you are in shorts and a tee shirt wandering around the wedding buffet, people are going to notice.
    , @Anonymous
    In the rock world it's called "ligging". A lot of celebs used to do it before they were famous: walking into various events to mooch free food and swag. If you dress and act the part no one cares, in fact it boosts their ego to see such a big turnout.

    Some celebs were notorious for doing it after they were famous. Especially in New York.

    It's probably easier to get a first class meal at a convention for professionals this way if you are dressed appropriately than it is to get breakfast at Drury Inn or the like. I routinely mooch popcorn and Pepsi at the local one, but I leave the food and booze strictly alone. If queried I just tell them I'm with a certain business owned by Warren Buffett, since they do thousands of dollars a month of business with that company. If I were queueing up for food, they'd probably bust me.

    Motels get a lot of moochers for free food and most of them are low class and crude so they ant to run them out. High class liggers are not that common in the swankier places and the lesat troublesome people the staff will encounter so they will look the other way in many cases unless you are incredibly blatant. And the high class joints will just ask you to leave because they don't want the fuss. Motels will prosecute to deter others.
  251. Alden says:
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Whatever transwhat toilet-terror troubles us, the REAL problem is whoever (or whatever) is spraying all over the porcelain place.

    Let the emancipated ladies fight this battle themselves. Men are already used to weird creepy dudes cruising the toilets for heaven knows what. Time for equality in misery!

    Wait till some weird creepy actual man agressively comes on to a woman turned into a man who is only sexually attracted to women.

    One thing about lesbians, they never used restrooms as pick up bars.

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  252. Sean says:

    Or is this some kind of religious mania? Reproduction and sex are important religious themes. It used to be socially advisable to believe in a virgin birth, but now it’s necessary to attest that you believe that if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman.

    The Scopes monkey trial was settled by a no ought from an is judgement with science and religion deemed as having authority in different spheres; the age of rocks having nothing to do with the Rock of Ages.

    The philosophy of the ancient world was rational and skeptical, but humans are NOT selected for the truth. And they need myths, all the better to hag together.

    Christianity was a reaction against corrosive doubt, a condition that took hold partly as a result of the habit of sceptical inquiry inculcated by philosophy: “What was destroying the world was the lack of illusions. Christianity saved it, not because it was the truth but because it was a new source of illusion.” This new illusion came in the form of a claim to truth that all the world had to accept: an inordinate demand that with the rise of the Enlightenment shifted to science, which has become a project aiming to dissolve the dreams in which humanity has hitherto lived. The result is modern nihilism – the perception that human beings are an insignificant accident in a scheme of things that cares nothing for them or their values – and a host of rackety creeds promising some kind of secular salvation. [...]

    What fascinated Schopenhauer, along with many later writers, was Leopardi’s insistence that illusion is necessary to human happiness. Matthew Arnold, A E Housman, Herman Melville, Thomas Hardy, Fernando Pessoa (who wrote a poem about the Italian poet) and Samuel Beckett were all stirred by his suggestion that human fulfilment requires a tolerance of illusion that is at odds with both Christianity and modern science. A version of the same thought informs the work of Wallace Stevens, perhaps the greatest 20th-century English-language poet, who saw the task of poetry as being the creation of fictions by which human beings can live.http://www.newstatesman.com/books/2013/09/barbarism-reason

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    For thousands of years, humans lived by the narrative and not by the lecture. Even 2 year olds will beg you to "tell me a story" and if the story is a memorable one, they will grasp it and repeat it back to you. The sun is pulled by invisible chariots across the sky - that makes perfect sense. If you tell them that the sun isn't really moving at all but the ground beneath their feet is spinning at 1,000 mph, they will look at you with dull incomprehension and forget what you said 5 seconds later.
  253. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    M*A*S*H is out and having watched a few Seinfeld re-runs of late (after having not done so for a few years), I believe admitting to watching Seinfeld will be akin to admitting to reading Mein Kampf.

    …admitting to watching Seinfeld will be akin to admitting to reading Mein Kampf.

    Mein Krampf?

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  254. I’ve been waiting for an opportunity to post this advert, but I didn’t think it would come up. Introducing Ms Whiz:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iupKbVEEk8

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  255. Curle says:
    @peterike

    Oh, the horror of Trump, rolling the military back to the dark days of June 2016 when Obama announced the new policy wrt transpeople.

     

    Ratchets only move in one direction. The Progs have every reason to expect that ANY movement forward is a ratchet movement, because it never gets rolled back. This move by Trump might actually be the first backwards push of the Prog movement since... well, since ever. When else have they ever lost ground?

    Paul Ryan and the other R sellouts sometimes make little disapproving sounds as the Rachel moves Left. Does that count?

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  256. Thea says:
    @inertial
    See, you are doing this too. You think you caught these people in a contradiction but they don't have to agree with you. As they see it, they have perfectly good reasons for the things they do. You may call these reasons "rationalization," but for these people they are not only reasonable, they are obvious.

    Take, for example, decision where to live. The leftists never think of themselves as seeking out specifically white neighborhoods. These places just happened to fit their criteria, such as "good schools," or the diverse restaurants scene, or bike paths, etc. They'd be happy if their neighbors were minorities but unfortunately there are none available. Why? Because of red lining, of course. Also because minorities are so poor that they cannot afford to buy a house in that neighborhood, and it goes without saying that that they are poor only due to systemic racism.

    So, in the final analysis, the libs are forced to live in whitopias only due to racists like you.

    Occasionally they will live in diverse areas on purpose, in parts of NYC for example. One thing rich liberals will never do is send their kids into the military.

    That is for poor uneducated whites. And minorities and deviants, who are to be protected from the non-deviant whites who see them as a distraction.

    For all their clucking about George Bush’s warmongering, they we fine with sending the hoi polloi to die for Obama’s lost causes.

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  257. Thea says:
    @Jack D

    It seems wholly better for everyone to believe exactly one blessed woman was willing to become a mother without the fun
     
    I'm not so sure about that..... I understand that we are all better off if we all pretend there is some Big Guy in the sky watching our every move and who will make us pay for eternity if we make a wrong one. Even if this is not true, it's a highly useful fiction.

    But I don't see why virgin birth is really a necessary element of Christianity (let alone for "everyone"). It was only mentioned a couple of times in the New Testament and in only 2 of the gospels and apparently was not a big deal for at least the first couple of centuries of Christianity. It strikes me as one of those elements that got played up later in order to make Christianity more sellable to pagans - this Jesus guy was not just a great moral teacher but he had heap big magic too - virgin birth, died and came back to life, revived the dead, etc.. Jupiter and Apollo have nothing on Him. The early evangelists were selling a product to a skeptical audience. It was a good product but any salesman is apt to exaggerate the features of the product in order to make the sale.

    If you are really interested, there are online New Testaments. Christianity is a pretty simple religion:

    A man free of sin died in your place. Everyone else was born a sinner. Virgin birth just helps showcase His purity. He was born of a woman just like us so we can relate to Him but also not like us at all in His holiness.

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    A lot of religions have virgin birth myths. Venus emerges from the sea foam fully grown. Sure it's a helpful superpower to give your gods but it's not really essential. If the story was that Jesus did not emerge from a woman's thighs then you'd be touting how that makes him extra holy too.

    BTW, I have nothing special against Christian myths - a lot of Jewish myths (Eve made from Adam's rib) also make no sense. Nevertheless, I think Judaism (and Christianity) contains great moral lessons and insight into human nature. We know a lot more about science now but human nature has not changed one iota in the last 5,000 years. They just had to sex it up with gimmicks to appeal to the rubes or else it would have never sold. It's like putting your cereal in a box with a picture of a famous sports star because no one would buy a bunch of flakes in a brown paper bag, even if they were just as nutritious.

    http://media.tmz.com/2015/06/01/0601-caitlyn-jenner-wheaties-boxes-2.jpg

    But if you are smart, you go by the nutrition facts on the side of the box and how the stuff tastes, not by whose picture is on the box - he might not really be as great a guy as he seems anyway. That's for the rubes, as I said.

  258. @Anonymous
    "You have to hand it to Trump for trying to reverse a destructive liberal social policy."

    Sure, but aren't there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority.

    The bathroom issue is pretty perfect for our age–it’s a great source of culture war and outrage (probably great for websites creating clickbait), and yet it’s a matter of very little actual importance.

    //////////////////////////////////////

    Sure, but aren’t there more pressing issues he should be accomplishing first, like pretty much all of his campaign promises? Out of the list of action items for Trump, this ought to be somewhere around #94 in terms of priority.

    Since the bathroom issue is of very little importance, and required Pres. Trump to spend only a little bit of time, no money, and no expenditure of political capital, why do you gents object?

    Methinks that you two are liars. The bathroom issue is near and dear to the likes of you two.

    Yes indeedy, the bathroom ban is a great culture war counter attack against the pservert Left.

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  259. moral arc says:
    @snorlax
    It's like in medieval Europe, when they would have ornate gold sarcophagi that were supposed to contain a small fragment of the True Boxer Shorts that Christ wore at the Last Supper. The urinal will maybe be used once or twice throughout its existence, just as it was the rare and lucky pilgrim who actually got a glimpse of the messianic undies.

    The function is the same. The object appears ridiculous viewed through the lens of objective detachment, which is precisely why it is a holy relic to the believer. The Sailers are not the intended audience, nor, even, are transgenders.

    The intended audience is the true believer who sees that urinal and feels a sudden swell of pride in her heart, that she could be present in this holiest of holy places to see History as it was Being Made, not unlike the swell of pride her ancestor felt attending mass in the same room as Jesus' dried scrotum sweat.

    As you've observed, the police shootings that BLM et al latch on to the most are the ones where neither party is provably in the wrong, as opposed to the ones where the police are clearly in the wrong.

    Just as you get more cred the more clearly you signal agreement that police are never entitled to the benefit of the doubt, the very ridiculousness of the women's-room urinal or the holy reliquary makes them all the more effective. The believer imagines her less-advanced peers scoffing and cracking jokes, but she knows instinctively to choose faith and good, and to pray for the souls of those who'd dare mock God's cotton-polyester blend.

    The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards the floor all around the men’s toilet.

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  260. @IndieRafael
    At the Grand Hotel on Mackinac Island, Michigan, they charge $10 to walk around the hotel. That seems reasonable to me.

    I spent three hours walking around a resort that is about as famous as the Grand Hotel on Mackinac, and I gave the valet parker a $20 tip. He was shocked by how much I gave him, but I told him that I had had a great time without spending much money, so somebody ought to profit off it.

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  261. @moral arc
    The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards the floor all around the men's toilet.

    I guffawed.

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  262. @Anonymous
    Andy Kaufman proved that anyone can get really famous if they are willing to be what anyone else would consider debased enough.

    He was utterly bereft of "decency" and I don't miss him.

    Not even a little.

    Ever.

    I never got Kaufman’s shtick or thought he was funny.

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  263. @AM

    but of course plenty of Christians during the Middle Ages did believe in magic, witches etc.
     
    As another points out, in the early and middle Medival Era it was crime to accuse someone of being a witch. You personally could be punished for it.

    Again, if you don't believe me, look at time lines for actual witch hunts. There are none until the edge of the Renaissance.

    The average medieval Christian would have just laughed at you for accusing people of being witches, just like people do right now. Yeah, you'd get people suffering from mental illness worried about witches - but now they've switched to UFOs and the like.

    The Roman Empire in the west collapsed when it had become officially Christian, the truly decadent stuff (Elagabalus etc.) happened much earlier.
     
    Yes, the Christians in the Roman West probably went long way to preventing all of Europe from descending into complete chaos as Rome fell. The point was that the tranny stuff is a serious warning sign of a society in decay.

    As another points out, in the early and middle Medival Era it was crime to accuse someone of being a witch. You personally could be punished for it.

    It was a crime if you couldn’t prove it, then the accuser was punished (lex talionis)…this tended to limit accusations for witchcraft during the early and high middles ages. Later this principle was given up due to changes in the general judicial order, and this was one of the factors in the explosive growth of witchcraft trials in the early modern age.
    It’s true that some early medieval texts (e.g. the Canon episcopi from the 9th century) took a somewhat sceptical attitude towards some forms of popular belief in witchcraft. But the attitude of the ecclesiastical authorities wasn’t uniform, and in any case your “average medieval Christian” was an uneducated peasant – of course plenty of those believed in magic, witches etc., just as they had always done.

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    It was a crime if you couldn’t prove it, then the accuser was punished (lex talionis)…this tended to limit accusations for witchcraft during the early and high middles ages.
     
    No, it was a crime period to accuse someone of witchcraft. Not if it were proven true or false.
    The true or false business idea comes in closer to the Renaissance, which would certainly discourage them but not if someone were mentally ill. (Possible mental instability was in fact what was thought of as the root issue with accusations at the Salem Witch trials.) There were no witch trials in 1000AD, but there would be 300 years later.

    But the attitude of the ecclesiastical authorities wasn’t uniform, and in any case your “average medieval Christian” was an uneducated peasant – of course plenty of those believed in magic, witches etc., just as they had always done.
     
    Sure, but that means we're still surrounded by uneducated peasants. People really are the same as now. For whatever reason, the everyone seems to bring up essentially the trashest, stupidest person they can think of when they bring up the medieval era. Remarkably, the body of reasonable people, with at least some education and good sense, never existed back then. Apparently they were all like the Monty Python version of them, which I note is where most people get their understanding of the Catholic teaching on birth control.

    It's fun to imagine we're brighter and more special than people who lived in the past, but we're not. We're better fed, have access to much better technology..and that's it.

  264. Moshe says:
    @a Newsreader
    That would be a fun alt-right exercise: write "The Conservative Case of Chopping of Your Junk" in the style of various NR-niks. Bloggers could draw straws for each of the classical styles: Goldberg's pseudo-dialectic, Podhoertz's whiny histrionics, Williamson's smug fatuousness, thot-of-the-week's fake girl edgyness, David French's rolling-in-the-mud groveling, etc.

    1. There are too many men already and some don’t have wives. More women, or at least less men, means more men get laid and are less likely to blow themselves up.

    2. It’s ergodynamically more efficient.

    3. It will resolve the Pay Gap.

    This could actually be a pretty good thread!

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  265. sabril says:
    @inertial
    See, you are doing this too. You think you caught these people in a contradiction but they don't have to agree with you. As they see it, they have perfectly good reasons for the things they do. You may call these reasons "rationalization," but for these people they are not only reasonable, they are obvious.

    Take, for example, decision where to live. The leftists never think of themselves as seeking out specifically white neighborhoods. These places just happened to fit their criteria, such as "good schools," or the diverse restaurants scene, or bike paths, etc. They'd be happy if their neighbors were minorities but unfortunately there are none available. Why? Because of red lining, of course. Also because minorities are so poor that they cannot afford to buy a house in that neighborhood, and it goes without saying that that they are poor only due to systemic racism.

    So, in the final analysis, the libs are forced to live in whitopias only due to racists like you.

    You think you caught these people in a contradiction but they don’t have to agree with you. As they see it, they have perfectly good reasons for the things they do.

    Just because they believe themselves to be reasonable doesn’t make it so. I believe X; they believe Y; we both think we are right, but I am right and they are wrong.

    How can an outsider tell the difference? My beliefs are falsifiable. If the IQ gap closes by 50% or so over the next 20 years, I will start to doubt my position. If it closes by 100% then I will admit I am probably wrong. By contrast, if the IQ gaps stays in place, the other side will still insist they are right. There is literally no evidence which would change their minds. And that’s the difference.

    Same thing with global warming — if the warmistas start making actual predictions which are specific, interesting, bona fide, and accurate, I will revisit my skepticism. But for the warmistas, there is literally nothing that could happen which would shake their beliefs.

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  266. @Anonymous

    No, Bruce Jenner isn’t just a woman. She’s a woman who’s hung like a horse.
     
    If xe wasn't before, if it hasn't been lopped off or refurbished into a pseudovadge, , xe is now.

    A side effect of hormone treatment to make men grow boobs and "feminize" them ironically causes penis growth, sometimes enormous penis growth. In the 90s I had to peruse Al Goldstein's publication for professional reasons and I remember seeing the pictures of these unfortunate individuals. It was very common for them to have what looked like 8 to 9 inches flaccid.

    Whether they still were ever any other way, I don't know. The two pro wrestlers I knew who had enormous members said that pre-steroids they were normal, but at least it still worked, whereas now they were completely impotent.

    Not so
    Giving estrogens +/or LHRH agonists(Lupron or Zoladex)to males causes both testicular and penile atrophy

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  267. biz says:
    @Daniel H
    My brother was just visiting me out here in Vegas for a convention. One of his old college classmates, who lives out here, and who is now an MD turned into a tranny. In college this dude was known as a tough talking, aggressive guido, you know the type. Evidently very intelligent because he went to a prestigious college and Med school. Anyway, he confided to another friend of my brother's that one big lure, that drew him to become a tranny was to nail lesbians. This is a true story. The dude is still married and still practices medicine, but traipses around as a tranny, spending his off evenings trying to seduce lesbians. Lesbians are on to these dudes and don't trust them one bit.

    Does he still have a johnson? What would be the point of seducing lesbians without one?

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  268. biz says:
    @peterike

    Oh, the horror of Trump, rolling the military back to the dark days of June 2016 when Obama announced the new policy wrt transpeople.

     

    Ratchets only move in one direction. The Progs have every reason to expect that ANY movement forward is a ratchet movement, because it never gets rolled back. This move by Trump might actually be the first backwards push of the Prog movement since... well, since ever. When else have they ever lost ground?

    When else have they ever lost ground?

    - gun rights have been steadily expanding for decades
    - the reinstatement and re-use of the death penalty starting in the late 70s (although arguably slowly being walked back lately)
    - tough on crime and harsh sentencing policies in the 90s (although talk of walking back lately)
    - steady movement of public education to a constant standardized test based model (yes, there is left and right collusion in this but it was primarily driven by Republicans e.g. GWB and primarily opposed by liberals)
    - so-called “Right to Work” laws in many states
    - the growth of charter schools
    - SCOTUS decisions and voter initiatives (even in California!) narrowing the scope of affirmative action considerably
    - repeal of many financial sector regulations in the 90s (walked back only partially by Dodd-Frank)
    - general movement of culture toward being more materialistic and money-centric (certainly a problem of both the left and right but more traditionally opposed by the left)

    That’s just off the top of my head.

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  269. Alfa158 says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Maybe you guys should just live and let live be. Don't your ilk like freedoms? Or is that only when convenient.

    I think the real problem is that you guys are old and tired and can no longer run with the the young bucks who are increasingly diverse

    You guys really need to read verysmartbrothas to see what the ascendency majority (you know the future) thinks about white men ruining life for everyone else

    And here I thought I was the last guy who is old enough and racist enough to still refer to young male Negroes as “bucks”. Glad to hear there are at least two of us left standing!

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  270. anonguy says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Yes, there are more pressing issues, but that doesn't mean he has to do nothing about this. Besides there is an advantage to a full-court press. The Obama administration waged campaigns on every front of the culture war, and it kept conservatives off-guard. They had to defend against many assaults at once - socialized medicine, gun control, gay/trans-stuff, etc. If anything such an all-out attack might work better against the democrats, because they are a coalition of lots of little weirdo causes. If the trannies are fighting for their right to party in your bathroom, they might not be able to join the hispanics fighting for their right to latinize America (and vice-versa). To name just two examples.

    Yes, there are more pressing issues, but that doesn’t mean he has to do nothing about this. Besides there is an advantage to a full-court press.

    Remember Reagon taking down PATCO? That is the kind of confident stroke we need. The opposition are complete paper tigers grown fierce in a culture of absolute permissiveness.

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  271. Jack D says:
    @Autochthon
    A close friend is a Kind of Big Deal in entertainment (behind the scenes). We've mostly lost touch, plus I'm too old and misanthropic to go in for such things much now anyhow, but he used to always have my name on some list for free tickets, backstage passes, etc. at concerts. We'd hang out on the tour buses, he'd show me around before the show, sometimes I'd meet the musicians – (((Adam Duritz))) is a prick, by the way. Anyhow, sometimes he couldn't meet me front-of-house because he was busy with his job setting up all the technical junk for the show, and he also hadn't made prior arrangements with the box-office to let me in, give me tickets, etc. He'd tell me via phone "Look, man, just come in such-and-such a door, go down thus-and-such hallways, and you'll some out at this location, where I can meet you in fifteen minutes."

    The first time it went thus I was worried. "What about the security staff? Won't they waylay me and throw me out? I don't want to cause any trouble for you."

    He'd chuckle. "As long as you walk with purpose as if you know where you are going and you have something to do when you get there, no one will think anything of it. They'll assume you belong here: the crew, the caterer, a merchandise guy, or whatever."

    He was absolutely right. To this day I use the lessons learned in this context. It's amazingly easy to bluff through any number of such situations; it's ninety per cent a matter of confidence and not acting squirrely.

    As others point out, one can easily mooch from catered buffets for this or that meeting in a hôtel, gatecrash conferences and festivals, etc. Weddings and similar functions where those present are likely to know all the attendees – and somewhat intimately, since people don't generally invite their mailman to a wedding – are still a bad bet, but I suppose if the there are a large enough amount of guests, one might be overlooked as the unknown date of an invitee, with the observer who may arch an eyebrow too apathetic or too busy to bother investigating exactly which invitee....

    A lot of it is a matter of dressing the part, as well as looking confident as you say. If you are in shorts and a tee shirt wandering around the wedding buffet, people are going to notice.

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  272. Jack D says:
    @Thea
    If you are really interested, there are online New Testaments. Christianity is a pretty simple religion:

    A man free of sin died in your place. Everyone else was born a sinner. Virgin birth just helps showcase His purity. He was born of a woman just like us so we can relate to Him but also not like us at all in His holiness.

    A lot of religions have virgin birth myths. Venus emerges from the sea foam fully grown. Sure it’s a helpful superpower to give your gods but it’s not really essential. If the story was that Jesus did not emerge from a woman’s thighs then you’d be touting how that makes him extra holy too.

    BTW, I have nothing special against Christian myths – a lot of Jewish myths (Eve made from Adam’s rib) also make no sense. Nevertheless, I think Judaism (and Christianity) contains great moral lessons and insight into human nature. We know a lot more about science now but human nature has not changed one iota in the last 5,000 years. They just had to sex it up with gimmicks to appeal to the rubes or else it would have never sold. It’s like putting your cereal in a box with a picture of a famous sports star because no one would buy a bunch of flakes in a brown paper bag, even if they were just as nutritious.

    But if you are smart, you go by the nutrition facts on the side of the box and how the stuff tastes, not by whose picture is on the box – he might not really be as great a guy as he seems anyway. That’s for the rubes, as I said.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Well...?!

    Can I still get a Wheaties Jogging Outfit or what?!
    , @AM

    A lot of religions have virgin birth myths. Venus emerges from the sea foam fully grown.
     
    This isn't a virgin myth, Much closer to the way Adam came to be - a creature that was breathed life into. The Gospels have to copy/paste to be true, but somehow this "counts" a virgin myth? Please.

    BTW, I have nothing special against Christian myths – a lot of Jewish myths (Eve made from Adam’s rib) also make no sense.
     
    They make no sense to you because you really don't want to believe in G_d. Thus, it's best to avoid any critical thinking or analysis that might even lead to that conclusion. It's not everyone else's fault that you don't understand what you don't want to understand.
  273. Jack D says:
    @Sean

    Or is this some kind of religious mania? Reproduction and sex are important religious themes. It used to be socially advisable to believe in a virgin birth, but now it’s necessary to attest that you believe that if Bruce Jenner hoists his evening gown up to use the urinal at an expensive resort, he’s a woman.
     
    The Scopes monkey trial was settled by a no ought from an is judgement with science and religion deemed as having authority in different spheres; the age of rocks having nothing to do with the Rock of Ages.


    The philosophy of the ancient world was rational and skeptical, but humans are NOT selected for the truth. And they need myths, all the better to hag together.


    Christianity was a reaction against corrosive doubt, a condition that took hold partly as a result of the habit of sceptical inquiry inculcated by philosophy: “What was destroying the world was the lack of illusions. Christianity saved it, not because it was the truth but because it was a new source of illusion.” This new illusion came in the form of a claim to truth that all the world had to accept: an inordinate demand that with the rise of the Enlightenment shifted to science, which has become a project aiming to dissolve the dreams in which humanity has hitherto lived. The result is modern nihilism – the perception that human beings are an insignificant accident in a scheme of things that cares nothing for them or their values – and a host of rackety creeds promising some kind of secular salvation. [...]

    What fascinated Schopenhauer, along with many later writers, was Leopardi’s insistence that illusion is necessary to human happiness. Matthew Arnold, A E Housman, Herman Melville, Thomas Hardy, Fernando Pessoa (who wrote a poem about the Italian poet) and Samuel Beckett were all stirred by his suggestion that human fulfilment requires a tolerance of illusion that is at odds with both Christianity and modern science. A version of the same thought informs the work of Wallace Stevens, perhaps the greatest 20th-century English-language poet, who saw the task of poetry as being the creation of fictions by which human beings can live.http://www.newstatesman.com/books/2013/09/barbarism-reason

     

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    For thousands of years, humans lived by the narrative and not by the lecture. Even 2 year olds will beg you to “tell me a story” and if the story is a memorable one, they will grasp it and repeat it back to you. The sun is pulled by invisible chariots across the sky – that makes perfect sense. If you tell them that the sun isn’t really moving at all but the ground beneath their feet is spinning at 1,000 mph, they will look at you with dull incomprehension and forget what you said 5 seconds later.

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    • Replies: @Sean
    Depends on the circumstances. The Churches are empty in Ireland because life is good there now. Religion is what people believe when they think they'll need help from other members of a group (family, denomination, nation).

    Kevin MacDonald “The human mind was not designed to seek truth but rather to attain evolutionary goals.”http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-marx-of-the-anti-semites/
     
    I was talking about the myths that bind people into a group that can count on one another. The wealthy liberals need a faith to bind them together because they are under threat.

    Well over a century ago, Balfour identified a problem

    “We have not merely stumbled on truth in spite of error and illusion, which is odd, but because of error and illus