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The Democrats seem to want to run against Joe Biden on the issue that Joe was, horrors, against forced racial school busing of children. After all, who doesn’t love busing? Look what a happy and pleasant little girl busing made of Senator Kamala Harris:

Forced racial school busing (which in the U.S. is spelled with one S, not two) has been pretty much memoryholed. For example, the 1978 implementation of busing in Los Angeles — shipping white kids an hour from the San Fernando Valley to South-Central — caused the near instant White Flight of almost all the Jewish students from L.A. public schools. But who can remember events that happened in such an obscure location to such a marginalized ethnicity with so little access to the media?

But nobody ever brings that up, so maybe most Democrats younger than Joe Biden think busing sounds like a great issue to run for President on.

 
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  1. They figure White voters with kids don’t matter. No enough of them and most White Dem voters are cat ladies or sluts or both.

    They are probably right.

    • Replies: @guest
    The Marriage Gap plays into that. But what about single Soccer Moms? Have they disappeared?
    , @t
    What makes you think Hispanic and Asian parents want their children going to school with blacks?
    , @Alden
    Or 8o old male virgins named Whiskey.
    , @Jordi
    Spot on. You are pretty fine Whiskey.

    Bussing is an 100% repellent for white parents, but a virtue signalling opportunity for everyone else, including white non-parents (such as fresh university graduates).
  2. Not quite memory-holed, because it is recounted occasionally in mainstream entertainment. Especially since Hollywood got fond of New England accents outside of New York.

    Or rather, the fact that whites in Boston threw rocks at buses is recounted. The new Kevin Bacon Showtime series City on a Hill mentions this. As did the Departed.

    • Replies: @BigDickNick
    and many of those formerly white neighborhoods are crapholes now. So *technically* the racists were right, but it is incredibly problematic and evil that they predicted what would happen.
  3. @Whiskey
    They figure White voters with kids don't matter. No enough of them and most White Dem voters are cat ladies or sluts or both.

    They are probably right.

    The Marriage Gap plays into that. But what about single Soccer Moms? Have they disappeared?

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    if ex earns big money, kids will be in that school district.
  4. Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    Kamala might be confused by the term "busing," thinking it refers to being dropped off by her limo driver.
    , @anonymous
    Kamala Harris is also a phony because she identifies as black, while her absent pale skinned mulatto Jamaican father (a distinguished economist) had little to do with most of her upbringing. Her Tamil Brahmin brought her up for six years in Montreal, and her Tamil grandmother, the wife of a senior Indian diplomat, provided a lot of support by spending part of the year with the girls.

    A lot like Obama, who was mostly raised by white Kansan grandparents and went to a very white prep school but went into Chicago local politics, Kamala Harris made a deliberate choice to identify as black by choosing to go to an HBCU and then Hastings Law. Her sister, Maya Harris, went to Berkeley and Stanford.

    Kamala Harris is on strained terms with her father. Recently, he published an annoyed statement scolding her for painting all Jamaicans as weed-smoking Rastafarians.

    https://www.jamaicaglobalonline.com/donald-harris-slams-his-daughter-senator-kamala-harris-for-fraudulently-stereotyping-jamaicans-and-accusing-her-of-playing-identity-politics/
    , @Mr McKenna

    Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.
     
    Pretty much every word you typed is exactly how Democrats get elected to positions of power. And all the MSM have to do is cast "busing" as another aspect of Racism and White Injury and they can ride it all the way to the White House. And just about anywhere else they want to go.
    , @BenKenobi
    Never forget that Kamala's woke pandering was immediately denounced by her bespoke father.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/kamala-harris-father-denounces-daughters-marijuana-joke
    , @Ray Huffman
    Yes, a poseur, just like Occasionally-Coherent.

    My mother, unlike hers, actually did have to clean toilets to make ends meet and so did I. And we lived in felony flats, not Westchester county.

    , @Torn and Frayed
    Kamala grew up in a duplex on Bancroft Way between Browning and Bonar. This is in the racially mixed Berkeley flatlands. It wasn't a ghetto but it was far from being an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her Jamaican father had already left and so she was brought up by her mother. She was bused to Thousand Oaks Elementary School which is in a really posh part of town. There is no question that she would have benefited from going to this school instead of the one in her neighborhood.

    What's not being mentioned is that despite their busing program, Berkeley public schools are the most racist in the US in terms of perpetuating the white / black achievement gap.


    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-atlantic-notices-what-i-wrote-about-in-2016-berkeley-schools-have-worst-race-gap-in-usa/
    , @Mr. Anon

    Kamala is such a phony.
     
    Most politicians at her level are. Certainly most of the people on that stage are.
    , @Colin Wright
    'She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. '

    If that's true, then I suspect she wasn't bussed.

    Apparently, she was in Berkeley for first and second grade -- before, entirely coincidentally no doubt, her mother got out.

    I was there as well at the time. The drill was that fourth through sixth graders were bussed down to formerly mostly-black schools in the flatlands, while first through third graders were bussed up the hill to formerly mostly-white schools in the hills, or at least further east.

    Ergo, if Kamala Harris did in fact live in an upper-class neighborhood, and she was in first and second grade at the time, she wouldn't have been bussed.
  5. Busing is still here, and on the resurgence. Here in NC, they bus white kids to black schools for diversity all the time. it’s called the “magnet” program, and it is a way of sitting white and Indian and Chinese suburban kids in classrooms next to urban youth classrooms in the same school, so the magic dirt will rub off. But at least the county admits it was just a way to spread suburban property tax dollars to urban schools.

    • Replies: @Big Dick Bandit
    ......in fairness......it works pretty well (definitely much better than bussing black+latin kids into white schools).

    the Wake County Public School System was one of the best in the country for decades, and while it isn't all kumbaya--you still get lots of black kids who overwhelmingly hang out with black kids--there really is a much greater presence of black+latin students in AP/IB/"Gifted" classes than in other systems....while not compromising white/azn student outcomes.

    it's not perfect, but much better than other system.
  6. Careful. Keep going down this road, they’ll have to denounce Carter and Bubba Big Dog as OldThinkers, too.

    Again: amazing parallel. GOP in 2012 did not seem to comprehend a world existed before Ronald Reagan. Democrats now going down the same spiral.

    This bodes well for Trump. Not that he deserves it or is competent enough to take proper advantage of this, but then again, Romney managed to bail Obama out and Kerry managed to bail Dubya out. 3rd time isn’t always the charm. Just ask the early 2000s Philadelphia Eagles.

  7. Lot says:

    Kamala is probably lying. She spent ages 12-18 in Canada.

    Before then she lived in mostly white Berkeley. But unless she lived in the black area, she would not be bussed as she was already “desegregating” the school by simply attending the nearest elementary school.

    Now I guess I could be wrong, maybe Kamala’s two PhD holding parents lived in a black area and volunteered to have her bussed to a white school. Seems a tad unlikely.

    • Replies: @Patrick in SC
    If she is, the major media outlets will be all over it. I mean, "democracy dies in darkness."






    Just kidding.
    , @Hail

    Kamala is probably lying
     
    All an elaborate way to deliver a dog-whistle-reminder that she is 'Black.' Political salivation over the South Carolina primary coming in seven months.

    (Asterisk: Kamala has no US slave ancestry and is half Hindu. Black she may look, exotic-Black, but she is not a real Black American.)

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    The Brown Woman cannot be lying. Persons in protected (privileged) categories do not lie. "Certain things are true though they didn’t happen, while others are not, even if they did.”
    , @Barnard
    Kamala probably thinks that because she rode the bus to school, she was part of a integration program. I wouldn't assume she understands the busing programs of the 70s and how they fit into her own childhood.
  8. This is another indication that Camp of the Saints is coming true; social engineering by forcing people together against their will via government-mandate–and children, to boot.

    That busing would come back in style is unsurprising, given how cycles run and that (as Steve mentioned) the younger Left didn’t live through that history and thinks its always Year Zero. But it could also be the old commies trying it again.

    Busing was one of those one-step-beyond things that drove people to Nixon and Reagan country. It was all fine to desegregate those evil Southerners with their laws down there, but now the Northern Lefties would be desegregated even if the law wasn’t preventing blacks from doing things (for those law nerds out there, its the famous de jure versus de facto situation) . Watching their neighborhood schools made violent ignorant heckholes by blacks and puerto ricans drove many Northern Lefties into the suburbs and Catholic schools and supporting more”moderate” social policies.

    Boston, of course, had the famous case where a lace-curtain Irish Judge Garrity all on his own forced the city into a violent, media-glorified warzone of busing, complete with “evil” whites and “noble” blacks “just tryin’ to get educamated”. After a few too many Globe employees and Democrats at City Hall were mugged/beaten by the blacks bussed in, there was a downgrade in support. Also, the whites were lucky to have in their corner the corrupt, violent, but useful Bulger Brothers in power then, Billy in the State House and Whitey in his gang allied with the FBI. With them whites were able to short-circuit some of the policies implemented in more unfortunate places.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    R.G. Camara:

    By the operational definition of hard-boiled Massachusetts politics I don't believe that Billy Bulger was corrupt. Certainly not violent since that was brother Whitey's province. S0me time ago the late David Brudnoy interviewed Billy on radio station WBZ. I was pleasantly shocked by his buttoned-down persona - that of an erudite, smooth, low-key academic.
    , @Ray Huffman
    That busing would come back in style is unsurprising, given how cycles run and that (as Steve mentioned) the younger Left didn’t live through that history and thinks its always Year Zero.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97BJ3-7dd24&t=1h35m12s
    , @Harry Baldwin
    When bringing up Whitey Bulger, let's not forget to mention his connection to that man of impeccable integrity, Robert Mueller.

    Ripping FBI special counsel Robert Mueller as a political "zealot," Harvard law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz reminded staunch Mueller supporters about the former FBI director's role in protecting "notorious mass murderer" Whitey Bulger as an FBI informant....

    "He's the guy who kept four innocent people in prison for many years in order to protect the cover of Whitey Bulger as an FBI informer. Those of us in Boston don't have such a high regard for Mueller because we remember this story. The government had to pay out tens of millions of dollars because Whitey Bulger, a notorious mass murderer, became a government informer against the mafia . . .

    "And that's regarded in Boston of one of the great scandals of modern judicial history. And Mueller was right at the center of it. So, he is not without criticism by people who know him in Boston."
     
    , @Clyde

    Boston, of course, had the famous case where a lace-curtain Irish Judge Garrity all on his own forced the city into a violent, media-glorified warzone of busing, complete with “evil” whites and “noble” blacks “just tryin’ to get educamated”
     
    F'ing Judge Garrity lived in Wellesley, one of the wealthiest Boston suburbs. Far, far away from any busing strife. Wellesley College is where Hillary went to college. Situated in Wellesley of course.
    , @anonymous
    Southie did Boston a big favor with all the fuss about busing. Boston gained a notorious racist reputation which staved off black migration for decades.
  9. Doesn’t busing spew more CO2 into the atmosphere? It’s clearly not an eco-friendly solution to education. But being a Democrat means holding a motley stew of opinions that wildly contradict each other, and being completely oblivious to it.

  10. You guys need to read Nikole Hannah Jones

    Busing was good for Black Children

    It was also good for white girls if you know what I mean

    Harris will be the next president

    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    No, TD, the chosen one will be Stacey Abrams, but she'll have to go through Slow-Joe or Bolshi-Bernie to get to the oval orifice.
  11. @Lot
    Kamala is probably lying. She spent ages 12-18 in Canada.

    Before then she lived in mostly white Berkeley. But unless she lived in the black area, she would not be bussed as she was already “desegregating” the school by simply attending the nearest elementary school.

    Now I guess I could be wrong, maybe Kamala’s two PhD holding parents lived in a black area and volunteered to have her bussed to a white school. Seems a tad unlikely.

    If she is, the major media outlets will be all over it. I mean, “democracy dies in darkness.”

    Just kidding.

  12. Lot says:

    There was a 29 year old girl in California who dated her 60 year old married boss. That girl was me.

    There was a 32 year girl in California whose 63 year old boyfriend-boss found her a job that paid $72,000 a year for 12 days a year of work on the California Medical Assistance Board. That girl was me.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Daniel H
    This is hilarious.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Kamala's spelling of "busing" as "bussing" may be a reference to her appearance.

    From urban dictionary - bussin - to look real cute or have a nice body, jugs - a woman's breasts. Especially when large and shapely.
     
    , @Desiderius
    Looks like she’d been getting into Sammy Sosa’s special cream and clear. Takes more than a bus to get that white.
    , @indocon
    Please please, keep this picture hidden until Kamala is the Dem nominee.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Lot:

    Regarding that portrait: what is that "black" man (Willie B) doing consorting with that "white" woman (Kamala H)?
    , @Clyde
    Using whitening cream there? Kams looks 100% in. Into Willie.
    , @TWS
    Once again unz stinginess with lol and agree forces me to leave an lol here.
  13. But is that really a issue the democrats are going to run on? It was a abject failure that cost them dearly (politically) during the 1960s-1980s. Unless they can rig it to benefit gentrifiers (don’t ask me how) that’ll cost them independents and urban/suburban votes.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    "Acid, Amnesty, and Abortion" were a huge loser for the D's in the 1970s, despite their base screaming for it. Nixon and Reagan smartly went for the Silent Majority folks.

    Will "Busing, Baby-killing, Boob Jobs*, and Borderlessness" be the same this time around?

    *For trannies. I couldn't think of a B-word for trannies.
  14. @Larry, San Francisco
    Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.

    Kamala might be confused by the term “busing,” thinking it refers to being dropped off by her limo driver.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • LOL: jim jones, BB753
    • Replies: @Anon7
    She might be confusing it with "bussing" i.e. non-sexual social kisses like she gave her old boyfriend, 60 year-old Willie Brown, while he was giving her a leg up with her career.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    I meant to mash LOL, but AGREE will suffice.
  15. one of the main issues is that older politicians have a 30 year history to attack, and these new, out of the blue, total nobody democrats that the democrats deliberately pick every cycle, have no history to attack.

    so they can attack you, but you can’t attack them.

    this is very much on purpose. and until he completely bungled it in indiana, Buttigieg was going to be the democrats’ Mr. Zero. no history to attack, gleaming artificial resume, and ready to launch hit after hit on old, established politicians for doing stuff in 1981 that is unacceptable in 2019.

    imagine doing serious political stuff BEFORE SOME GUY WAS EVEN BORN, and he’s attacking you now over it. even if you’re a democrat, lol, that sucks.

  16. “Kamala is probably lying.”

    she already fibbed about what rap she was listening to in college, so she’s either pretty bad with dates or she’s a democrat. or both.

    but i mean, democrat politicians are all congenital liars, so duh.

  17. There was a little girl in California who was bussed to school.

    Now that sounds like sexual harassment!

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Heh, should have known you'd be the one to catch that ;)
  18. Kamala seems to have a prosecutorial “Im the one asking the questions here” aggressive, accusatory personality. The left has concocted the verbiage to support this approach for the verbal arsenal for a willing politician to deploy.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Harris is utterly grating, like fingernails on a chalkboard -- fingernails that went to law school and decided to prosecute and fuck their way up the political ladder. Watching her perform during adversarial Senate hearings is all one needs to see to determine that she is a monster best banished if ever at all possible. She is a brown Klobuchar.
    , @R.G. Camara
    She's trying to come off like an alpha-in control, but it doesn't work for a woman as it does for a man, so she sounds like a shrieking harridan and unnatural. It's no wonder she had to sleep her way to the top and use her affirmative action points if this was an example of her trial behavior.

    A true female alpha in charge is much different, picture a Queen Mother or Scarlett O'Hara-esque. Watch Vivien Leigh in this scene here. She's all flitty and girlishness , but goes right to withering side-eye to her servant here when the servant steps out of line--you can tell she's in charge. That's an alpha female:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ7r2OVu1ss

    , @Mr McKenna

    Kamala seems to have a prosecutorial “I'm the one asking the questions here” aggressive, accusatory personality.
     
    As it happens, that is the perfect mien for a Woman of Color in the Current Year.

    Interrogating the many manifestations of White Privilege takes Courage!

    I agree that she's a bit of a lightweight and devoid of integrity.

    But are those things really liabilities, given the context?
    , @Justvisiting
    Kamala has mastered the art of "black royalty". All whites must either bend the knee or they are "haters".

    Joe just got ambushed by the new paradigm.
  19. “There was a little girl in California who was bussed to school. That little girl was me.”

    I’m more interested in the story of the little white girl who rode the bus going in the opposite direction to sit at Kamala’s desk. How’d that work out for her?

    Also, Tulsi Gabbard is the only contestant in round one who didn’t come off as a total pandering weasel scumbag. She’s probably the only Dem I’d vote for in a head to head with Trump, but I’m sure the DNC will find a way to sink her well ahead of that possibility.

    Finally, a president (straight) guys could fantasize about…

  20. Kamala is betting that, to Millenial voters, “busing” is just some vague, liberal thing that Mean White Conservatives stopped.

    Therefore, busing (whatever it is) is good.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Also it might be good in the primaries, even if it’s a losing issue in the general election.
    , @El Dato
    So, it's "neo-busing", as in "neo-liberalism". No wait, that last one is alive. And it's bad. Even though it's really social-democracy-ism. "neo" is always bad. Like "neo-Jason" coming back from the grave. It's weird. I don't know.
  21. anonymous[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @Larry, San Francisco
    Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.

    Kamala Harris is also a phony because she identifies as black, while her absent pale skinned mulatto Jamaican father (a distinguished economist) had little to do with most of her upbringing. Her Tamil Brahmin brought her up for six years in Montreal, and her Tamil grandmother, the wife of a senior Indian diplomat, provided a lot of support by spending part of the year with the girls.

    A lot like Obama, who was mostly raised by white Kansan grandparents and went to a very white prep school but went into Chicago local politics, Kamala Harris made a deliberate choice to identify as black by choosing to go to an HBCU and then Hastings Law. Her sister, Maya Harris, went to Berkeley and Stanford.

    Kamala Harris is on strained terms with her father. Recently, he published an annoyed statement scolding her for painting all Jamaicans as weed-smoking Rastafarians.

    https://www.jamaicaglobalonline.com/donald-harris-slams-his-daughter-senator-kamala-harris-for-fraudulently-stereotyping-jamaicans-and-accusing-her-of-playing-identity-politics/

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    “Kamala Harris is on strained terms with her father. Recently, he published an annoyed statement scolding her for painting all Jamaicans as weed-smoking Rastafarians.”

    Did she, now?

    Well, if her father (presumably) objected to her use of the word “all”, then perhaps he could enlighten the rest of us as to what the true percentage might be (ie: “some”, “many”, “most”, “nearly all”, etc.)?
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Kamala Harris is married to a Jewish attorney. I doubt that he identifies as White. I wonder if he considers himself a victim.

    https://heavy.com/news/2017/06/kamala-harris-husband-douglas-emhoff-california-senator-lawyer-age-kids-family-bio/
  22. @Lot
    Kamala is probably lying. She spent ages 12-18 in Canada.

    Before then she lived in mostly white Berkeley. But unless she lived in the black area, she would not be bussed as she was already “desegregating” the school by simply attending the nearest elementary school.

    Now I guess I could be wrong, maybe Kamala’s two PhD holding parents lived in a black area and volunteered to have her bussed to a white school. Seems a tad unlikely.

    Kamala is probably lying

    All an elaborate way to deliver a dog-whistle-reminder that she is ‘Black.’ Political salivation over the South Carolina primary coming in seven months.

    (Asterisk: Kamala has no US slave ancestry and is half Hindu. Black she may look, exotic-Black, but she is not a real Black American.)

    • Replies: @Lurker

    Black she may look, exotic-Black, but she is not a real Black American
     
    It worked for that other guy.
    , @Alden
    Ever seen pictures of her Jamaican father? He’s much lighter than she is.
    , @indocon
    The Genius Coates pointed out that she attended Howard in defending her blackness. Case closed.

    Audacious Epilogue prediction looks to be on the money on Kamal being the nominee.
    , @Lot
    What percent of the US black population is part or whole New Black versus 100% Heritage Black?

    In MN and the whole NE, the New share must be 40% or more by now.

    Somalis are taking over airport jobs that used to be Heritage Black almost everywhere in the USA.
  23. School bussing was a disaster. It was cruel to children, but even worse, it gave us creepy, brown female prosecutors like Kamala Harris. She may very well be president, in 2020 or someday, due to Pokemon points.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    No man, black, brown, "yellow or red," or white wants her to...ever...over them. Kamala also made a crucial mistake in her long career of tasting/checking out men: she married a white guy. Black guys will never go for her for reasons that are obvious to me.
    , @Simply Simon
    We called it "forced busing" in Austin TX. A Federal judge by the name of Jack Roberts decided it was his duty to upset the peace and harmony of what was then a sleepy college town in the 1970s. He probably did not have much choice being urged on by the ACLU lawyers and black activists just then starting to feel their oats. It did not matter that the black schools were doing quite well with out whitey being in the classroom. The black kids rode long distances to white schools in the buses while many white kids drove cars or were driven by their parents. All this caused the exodus of white families to the nearest suburbs while the black schools slowly deteriorated to substandard levels. Yes, busing has gone done the memory hole in Austin but the bitterness still lingers in the hearts of those affected by this abuse of Federal power. The city of Austin has changed dramatically since the '70s. The population has exploded and it is now a high tech center rivaling Silicon Valley. An extremely liberal mayor and city council do what liberal do gooders always do, spend the taxpayers money on do-gooder projects as if it were their own. Meanwhile there is a multitude of crises--housing, homelessness and highways that resemble parking lots. Isn't progress grand?
  24. @Anon
    Kamala seems to have a prosecutorial "Im the one asking the questions here" aggressive, accusatory personality. The left has concocted the verbiage to support this approach for the verbal arsenal for a willing politician to deploy.

    Harris is utterly grating, like fingernails on a chalkboard — fingernails that went to law school and decided to prosecute and fuck their way up the political ladder. Watching her perform during adversarial Senate hearings is all one needs to see to determine that she is a monster best banished if ever at all possible. She is a brown Klobuchar.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    she has no shot - relax. Most women find her annoying. More importantly, black men will never support her.
  25. @Whiskey
    They figure White voters with kids don't matter. No enough of them and most White Dem voters are cat ladies or sluts or both.

    They are probably right.

    What makes you think Hispanic and Asian parents want their children going to school with blacks?

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Whiskey
    Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids. Busing for Whites.
    , @t
    What happened when Chicago attempted to bus Hispanic kids to schools in the black ghetto

    https://books.google.com/books?id=wu0mx4TULPcC&lpg=PP1&dq=there%20goes%20the%20neighborhood&pg=PA77#v=onepage&q&f=false
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Blacks who care about their kids' future don't want their kids going to school with Blacks. Even low income individuals will scrounge up the funds to send their kids to private schools.
  26. @Lot
    Kamala is probably lying. She spent ages 12-18 in Canada.

    Before then she lived in mostly white Berkeley. But unless she lived in the black area, she would not be bussed as she was already “desegregating” the school by simply attending the nearest elementary school.

    Now I guess I could be wrong, maybe Kamala’s two PhD holding parents lived in a black area and volunteered to have her bussed to a white school. Seems a tad unlikely.

    The Brown Woman cannot be lying. Persons in protected (privileged) categories do not lie. “Certain things are true though they didn’t happen, while others are not, even if they did.”

    • Replies: @jim jones
    This may have been posted already, it is early here, but the other brown woman has been caught out lying:

    https://summit.news/2019/06/26/photos-reveal-aoc-was-crying-over-an-empty-parking-lot/
  27. @guest
    The Marriage Gap plays into that. But what about single Soccer Moms? Have they disappeared?

    if ex earns big money, kids will be in that school district.

  28. @Buzz Mohawk
    School bussing was a disaster. It was cruel to children, but even worse, it gave us creepy, brown female prosecutors like Kamala Harris. She may very well be president, in 2020 or someday, due to Pokemon points.

    No man, black, brown, “yellow or red,” or white wants her to…ever…over them. Kamala also made a crucial mistake in her long career of tasting/checking out men: she married a white guy. Black guys will never go for her for reasons that are obvious to me.

  29. @Kronos
    But is that really a issue the democrats are going to run on? It was a abject failure that cost them dearly (politically) during the 1960s-1980s. Unless they can rig it to benefit gentrifiers (don’t ask me how) that’ll cost them independents and urban/suburban votes.

    “Acid, Amnesty, and Abortion” were a huge loser for the D’s in the 1970s, despite their base screaming for it. Nixon and Reagan smartly went for the Silent Majority folks.

    Will “Busing, Baby-killing, Boob Jobs*, and Borderlessness” be the same this time around?

    *For trannies. I couldn’t think of a B-word for trannies.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    I’m assuming amnesty for Vietnam draft-dodgers correct?
    , @Pericles


    Will “Busing, Baby-killing, Boob Jobs*, and Borderlessness” be the same this time around?

     

    "No wbites, no babies, no borders!"
    , @Hodag
    Bussy is the word you are looking for.
  30. Kamala is a dirty filthy liar. She grew up in Berkeley and she was born to “smart” parents, who were middle-class.

  31. @Buzz Mohawk
    Harris is utterly grating, like fingernails on a chalkboard -- fingernails that went to law school and decided to prosecute and fuck their way up the political ladder. Watching her perform during adversarial Senate hearings is all one needs to see to determine that she is a monster best banished if ever at all possible. She is a brown Klobuchar.

    she has no shot – relax. Most women find her annoying. More importantly, black men will never support her.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'she has no shot – relax. Most women find her annoying. More importantly, black men will never support her.'

    Well, yeah. But it's kind of like the nuclear standoff in the Cold War.

    On the one hand, the existence of nuclear weapons avoided what otherwise probably would have been a conventional World War Three. On the other hand, what if the missiles had flown? It was a hell of a chance to take.

    Ditto for Kamala Harris. Trump should be able to liquidate her. She's one of the more eminently beatable candidates out there.

    On the other hand, what if she won?
  32. @Anon
    Kamala seems to have a prosecutorial "Im the one asking the questions here" aggressive, accusatory personality. The left has concocted the verbiage to support this approach for the verbal arsenal for a willing politician to deploy.

    She’s trying to come off like an alpha-in control, but it doesn’t work for a woman as it does for a man, so she sounds like a shrieking harridan and unnatural. It’s no wonder she had to sleep her way to the top and use her affirmative action points if this was an example of her trial behavior.

    A true female alpha in charge is much different, picture a Queen Mother or Scarlett O’Hara-esque. Watch Vivien Leigh in this scene here. She’s all flitty and girlishness , but goes right to withering side-eye to her servant here when the servant steps out of line–you can tell she’s in charge. That’s an alpha female:

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Harris and Warren are vile harpies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZVqFmVNobA
  33. @Hypnotoad666
    Kamala might be confused by the term "busing," thinking it refers to being dropped off by her limo driver.

    She might be confusing it with “bussing” i.e. non-sexual social kisses like she gave her old boyfriend, 60 year-old Willie Brown, while he was giving her a leg up with her career.

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
    I believe you're confused as to who was giving who shots of leg.
  34. @Hail

    Kamala is probably lying
     
    All an elaborate way to deliver a dog-whistle-reminder that she is 'Black.' Political salivation over the South Carolina primary coming in seven months.

    (Asterisk: Kamala has no US slave ancestry and is half Hindu. Black she may look, exotic-Black, but she is not a real Black American.)

    Black she may look, exotic-Black, but she is not a real Black American

    It worked for that other guy.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    That may have been a onetime thing. White liberals thought Obama was Tom Bradley (“a politician who happens to be black”) while the black underclass viewed Obama as a Jesse Jackson type. Both were screwed over in one way or another.

    Liberal whites: believed Obama was post-racial. (Ha Ha.)

    Black underclass: helped elect the “Gentrifier in Chief.”

    Both sides are now a lot more sober.

    Thanks again for writing “Half-Blood Prince” Steve!

    , @Hail
    Barack 'Hussein' Obama had his negative points, but was always more likable in '07 and '08 than Kamala 'Sutra' Harris is in '19.
  35. Does anybody really think the historical facts of busing actually matter? Especially to the “coalition of the ascendant” or to soy-latte woke white liberals with a median age somewhere in their 30s? They probably think busing was how Kamala got where she was while ol’ Uncle Joe was cooking up some plot with the Klan to keep her going to school barefoot in a shack with a dirt floor or something. 1950s, 1970s, whatever, man!

    • Agree: Kylie
  36. @Alice
    Busing is still here, and on the resurgence. Here in NC, they bus white kids to black schools for diversity all the time. it's called the "magnet" program, and it is a way of sitting white and Indian and Chinese suburban kids in classrooms next to urban youth classrooms in the same school, so the magic dirt will rub off. But at least the county admits it was just a way to spread suburban property tax dollars to urban schools.

    ……in fairness……it works pretty well (definitely much better than bussing black+latin kids into white schools).

    the Wake County Public School System was one of the best in the country for decades, and while it isn’t all kumbaya–you still get lots of black kids who overwhelmingly hang out with black kids–there really is a much greater presence of black+latin students in AP/IB/”Gifted” classes than in other systems….while not compromising white/azn student outcomes.

    it’s not perfect, but much better than other system.

    • Replies: @bomag
    In a way, such success stories do more harm than good: judges and politicians seize upon these examples to mandate it for the rest of us; when it doesn't work so well, they hector us to try harder like Wake county.
    , @Alice
    I disagree it's working. The outcomes have been compromised for white kids, whose SAT scores are dropping as they learn nothing in the nongifted schools at all, and high school suffering gang violence, theft, rape and being dead from opiates are now common. Wake County public schools didn't even add 20 kids last year, though the area added 8 new charters, private schools are full, and homeschoolers account for 10% of NC students. The indians and Chinese are holding the scores up and the spaces at the gifted schools, but those communities afterschool their kids up to decent standards.
  37. @R.G. Camara
    This is another indication that Camp of the Saints is coming true; social engineering by forcing people together against their will via government-mandate--and children, to boot.

    That busing would come back in style is unsurprising, given how cycles run and that (as Steve mentioned) the younger Left didn't live through that history and thinks its always Year Zero. But it could also be the old commies trying it again.

    Busing was one of those one-step-beyond things that drove people to Nixon and Reagan country. It was all fine to desegregate those evil Southerners with their laws down there, but now the Northern Lefties would be desegregated even if the law wasn't preventing blacks from doing things (for those law nerds out there, its the famous de jure versus de facto situation) . Watching their neighborhood schools made violent ignorant heckholes by blacks and puerto ricans drove many Northern Lefties into the suburbs and Catholic schools and supporting more"moderate" social policies.

    Boston, of course, had the famous case where a lace-curtain Irish Judge Garrity all on his own forced the city into a violent, media-glorified warzone of busing, complete with "evil" whites and "noble" blacks "just tryin' to get educamated". After a few too many Globe employees and Democrats at City Hall were mugged/beaten by the blacks bussed in, there was a downgrade in support. Also, the whites were lucky to have in their corner the corrupt, violent, but useful Bulger Brothers in power then, Billy in the State House and Whitey in his gang allied with the FBI. With them whites were able to short-circuit some of the policies implemented in more unfortunate places.

    R.G. Camara:

    By the operational definition of hard-boiled Massachusetts politics I don’t believe that Billy Bulger was corrupt. Certainly not violent since that was brother Whitey’s province. S0me time ago the late David Brudnoy interviewed Billy on radio station WBZ. I was pleasantly shocked by his buttoned-down persona – that of an erudite, smooth, low-key academic.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara

    S0me time ago the late David Brudnoy interviewed Billy on radio station WBZ. I was pleasantly shocked by his buttoned-down persona – that of an erudite, smooth, low-key academic.
     
    How do you think he survived for so long and never got pinched? He could turn on the charm a million different ways when needed. On St. Patrick's Day to the Southie folk he was the old-school Irish pol with the back-slapping and the roast and the winking jokes, on Brudnoy he was the quiet aristocratic intellectual, etc. He probably convinced every young FBI agent and cop that he never knew a thing about Whitey's crimes or his whereabouts---only the older and more wizened knew better.

    Bill Clinton could do this well, too--change his persona to meet the audience, and yet still appear authentic (at least to the people who voted for him). This was in addition to his ability to make every individual feel like they were the most important person in the room.

    Two slimeballs with literal blood, corruption, and violent crimes on their hands who skated by without nary a conviction--partially based on reading the audience well and playing up to them perfectly. Similar in many ways, though obviously Clinton was the much bigger dog.

    , @Clyde
    Howie Carr called Billy Bulger the corrupt midget. He fathered quite a few children within his marriage. I knew a guy from from Southie who grew up with Billy Bulger. He said Bulger was a pussy when younger. Bulger never drank alcohol which gave him an edge in South Boston Irish politics.
  38. By the way, appointing herself the authority to declare Biden not a racist, and then cross-examining him, were pretty effective at belittling him. He looked like he was about to cry. Joe is part of that generation of old white liberals who reflexively cringe on anything having to do with race. He’s got no defense against this line of attack. And his intended path to the nomination can’t afford to risk alienating black voters by punching back. My take from tonight: he’s the Jeb! in this race.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Joe’s lead is almost all with blacks. He’s leading by 2 points with whites and 30-40 with blacks. Going after Kamala is a bad move for him, so taking her lashing quietly was his best move.
    , @That (Other) Guy
    This is going to get very amusing. Kamala's got every reason to go after him hard. The more she damages him the more stuff (VP, Cabinet, or whatever) he'll have to promise her. And if she actually kills off his campaign all the better.

    He's not going to perform as pathetically as Jeb but she's got a lot of power over him. It seems being the only candidate checking the black and female boxes has its perks.

    Biden also came off as a little tired and old. Way more than Bernie or Trump.

    , @Marty T
    The thing is, Biden doesn't have the courage or the energy to fight the radical tide of his party. It's sad to watch.
    , @Mr. Anon

    My take from tonight: he’s the Jeb! in this race.
     
    If you look around the room and can't figure out who the Jeb! is, then you are the Jeb!
  39. Black talk of a ” Green Revolution”
    Is a Cadillac spewing pollution.
    Hypocrisy’s Us
    On their fossil-fueled bus.
    Emissions don’t make a solution.

  40. Persons in protected (privileged) categories do not lie.

    Persons in certain protected categories are never incompetent, nor are they klutzes. Persons in certain other protected categories may never be called out on their incompetence to their faces, nor be the subject of any critique of their performance whatsoever, since all critiques are cruel personal insults that cause long term psychological trauma.

  41. @Hypnotoad666
    Kamala might be confused by the term "busing," thinking it refers to being dropped off by her limo driver.

    I meant to mash LOL, but AGREE will suffice.

  42. Anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:

    Gentrification bussed a lot of blacks out.

  43. Lot says:

    Watched most of the debate this time.

    I like Bernie the most in theory, but he was pretty bad. Shouting every single word the whole time and looking decrepit.

    Joe looks less decrepit and was a lot friendlier. He had some senior moments where he lost his train of thought, but then so does Trump.

    Gillibrand was an aged Barbie with a Minnie Mouse voice. She seemed to be angling to be Bernie’s VP.

    Kamala was really angry at and wagged her finger at Joe and metaphorically white America. At times she looked unhinged, as did Bernie. She had some good moments too, and PredictIt seemed to see her as a huge winner, going from 12 to 20.

    Mayor Pete was earnest, intelligent and likeable. I’d seriously worry that in 2020 he’s elected to show the world America isn’t homophobic.

    The moderators were openly hostile to Biden and Bernie while serving Kamala nothing but gentle softballs. It was pretty blatant.

    Letting Marrianne Williamson on the stage made the whole Dem Party look incompetent. Of course the GOP has recovered from similar kooks on the stage early debates.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara

    Mayor Pete was earnest, intelligent and likeable. I’d seriously worry that in 2020 he’s elected to show the world America isn’t homophobic.
     
    Sexual proclivity is not race. Just like gender is not race. We've also had 50+ years of heavy pro-black propaganda versus less for homos.

    Obama also won because Bush was unpopular and it was a change election and his main opponent was a dead-in-the-water Hillary. So his back story wasn't scrutinized like it should've been. Mayor Pete is one of more than dozen, and his failures as mayor have already been partially brought to light.
    , @Colin Wright
    '...The moderators were openly hostile to Biden and Bernie while serving Kamala nothing but gentle softballs. It was pretty blatant...'

    It's the flip side of why Gabbard is shut out. Harris has made it very clear she'll do exactly as Israel wishes.

    We're headed for another heads Israel wins, tails she...wins election. Both parties will nominate candidates that love Israel the bestest.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Letting Marrianne Williamson on the stage made the whole Dem Party look incompetent. Of course the GOP has recovered from similar kooks on the stage early debates.
     
    Such as? What GOP candidates were as kooky as Williamson?
  44. @Thomas
    By the way, appointing herself the authority to declare Biden not a racist, and then cross-examining him, were pretty effective at belittling him. He looked like he was about to cry. Joe is part of that generation of old white liberals who reflexively cringe on anything having to do with race. He's got no defense against this line of attack. And his intended path to the nomination can't afford to risk alienating black voters by punching back. My take from tonight: he's the Jeb! in this race.

    Joe’s lead is almost all with blacks. He’s leading by 2 points with whites and 30-40 with blacks. Going after Kamala is a bad move for him, so taking her lashing quietly was his best move.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    I wonder how she’s going to do among blacks. I’ve seen some comments pointing out how she’s not ADoS. If I were working some squirrely outside whispering/meme-generating campaign against her, I’d try to get trending the observation that “she’d put plenty of black men in jail but she wouldn’t marry one.” (Her husband, who she married at the age of 49, is a white, Jewish lawyer from LA.)
  45. ot
    https://i.iheart.com/v3/url/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuY29hc3R0b2NvYXN0YW0uY29tL2NpbWFnZXMvdmFyL2V6d2ViaW5fc2l0ZS9zdG9yYWdlL2ltYWdlcy9jb2FzdC10by1jb2FzdC9yZXBvc2l0b3J5L3RodW1ibmFpbHMvaXNzLXZvbGNhbmljLWVydXB0aW9uLzExMTUzMTctMS1lbmctVVMvSVNTLVZvbGNhbmljLUVydXB0aW9uLmpwZw==?ops=scale(728,0)
    Astronauts aboard the International Space Station captured a breathtaking image of a massive volcanic eruption that occurred over the weekend. The amazing photograph was snapped on Saturday morning when the ISS passed over the uninhabited volcanic island Raikoke as it rumbled to life and unleashed an enormous plume of ash and smoke into the sky. According to a post from NASA, volcanic monitoring stations measure the height of the plume to be around 8 to 10 miles.

    Thanks to the remarkable timing of the flyover, the astronauts were able to capture the eruption as it was seemingly nearing its peak, taking on an eerie mushroom cloud-like shape. The space agency explained that the top of the plume is known as the ‘umbrella region’ and consists of dense ash rife with “sharp fragments of rock and volcanic glass.” Noting the curious rings which formed at the base of the plume, NASA suggested that those features are probably water vapor clouds.

  46. @Dan Hayes
    R.G. Camara:

    By the operational definition of hard-boiled Massachusetts politics I don't believe that Billy Bulger was corrupt. Certainly not violent since that was brother Whitey's province. S0me time ago the late David Brudnoy interviewed Billy on radio station WBZ. I was pleasantly shocked by his buttoned-down persona - that of an erudite, smooth, low-key academic.

    S0me time ago the late David Brudnoy interviewed Billy on radio station WBZ. I was pleasantly shocked by his buttoned-down persona – that of an erudite, smooth, low-key academic.

    How do you think he survived for so long and never got pinched? He could turn on the charm a million different ways when needed. On St. Patrick’s Day to the Southie folk he was the old-school Irish pol with the back-slapping and the roast and the winking jokes, on Brudnoy he was the quiet aristocratic intellectual, etc. He probably convinced every young FBI agent and cop that he never knew a thing about Whitey’s crimes or his whereabouts—only the older and more wizened knew better.

    Bill Clinton could do this well, too–change his persona to meet the audience, and yet still appear authentic (at least to the people who voted for him). This was in addition to his ability to make every individual feel like they were the most important person in the room.

    Two slimeballs with literal blood, corruption, and violent crimes on their hands who skated by without nary a conviction–partially based on reading the audience well and playing up to them perfectly. Similar in many ways, though obviously Clinton was the much bigger dog.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    still appear authentic

    Sometimes the phoniness got a little too much: a "private" moment arranging rocks into a cross on a Normandy beach; another "private" moment dancing on the beach with Hillary during the Lewinsky scandal; carrying a bible around during the Lewinsky scandal; instantly going from laughing to crying as he left Ron Brown's funeral and noticed the cameras; etc, etc.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    “The key to success is sincerity. If you can fake that you've got it made.” ― George Burns.

    Clinton was this quote writ large.
    , @Dan Hayes
    R.G. Camara:

    What pleasantly surprised me was that Billy Bulger, a supposed Southie neanderthal, was able to present himself as the quintessential academic!

    As far as I know, Billy was politically clean within the realm of Mass State politics. If you know otherwise, I would like to be so informed. His political demise arose from misplaced family fealty, that is "misplaced" according to a hectoring media.

  47. @Lurker

    Black she may look, exotic-Black, but she is not a real Black American
     
    It worked for that other guy.

    That may have been a onetime thing. White liberals thought Obama was Tom Bradley (“a politician who happens to be black”) while the black underclass viewed Obama as a Jesse Jackson type. Both were screwed over in one way or another.

    Liberal whites: believed Obama was post-racial. (Ha Ha.)

    Black underclass: helped elect the “Gentrifier in Chief.”

    Both sides are now a lot more sober.

    Thanks again for writing “Half-Blood Prince” Steve!

  48. @Whiskey
    They figure White voters with kids don't matter. No enough of them and most White Dem voters are cat ladies or sluts or both.

    They are probably right.

    Or 8o old male virgins named Whiskey.

    • Agree: Marcus
    • Troll: Charon
    • Replies: @Alden
    Whiskey is a gay 80 year old male virgin. Reason he hates women so much is because he’s gay.
  49. @Dan Hayes
    R.G. Camara:

    By the operational definition of hard-boiled Massachusetts politics I don't believe that Billy Bulger was corrupt. Certainly not violent since that was brother Whitey's province. S0me time ago the late David Brudnoy interviewed Billy on radio station WBZ. I was pleasantly shocked by his buttoned-down persona - that of an erudite, smooth, low-key academic.

    Howie Carr called Billy Bulger the corrupt midget. He fathered quite a few children within his marriage. I knew a guy from from Southie who grew up with Billy Bulger. He said Bulger was a pussy when younger. Bulger never drank alcohol which gave him an edge in South Boston Irish politics.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Clyde:

    My late Jewish boss liked the aphorism that except for alcohol the Irish would rule the world!
  50. @Lot
    Watched most of the debate this time.

    I like Bernie the most in theory, but he was pretty bad. Shouting every single word the whole time and looking decrepit.

    Joe looks less decrepit and was a lot friendlier. He had some senior moments where he lost his train of thought, but then so does Trump.

    Gillibrand was an aged Barbie with a Minnie Mouse voice. She seemed to be angling to be Bernie’s VP.

    Kamala was really angry at and wagged her finger at Joe and metaphorically white America. At times she looked unhinged, as did Bernie. She had some good moments too, and PredictIt seemed to see her as a huge winner, going from 12 to 20.

    Mayor Pete was earnest, intelligent and likeable. I’d seriously worry that in 2020 he’s elected to show the world America isn’t homophobic.

    The moderators were openly hostile to Biden and Bernie while serving Kamala nothing but gentle softballs. It was pretty blatant.

    Letting Marrianne Williamson on the stage made the whole Dem Party look incompetent. Of course the GOP has recovered from similar kooks on the stage early debates.

    Mayor Pete was earnest, intelligent and likeable. I’d seriously worry that in 2020 he’s elected to show the world America isn’t homophobic.

    Sexual proclivity is not race. Just like gender is not race. We’ve also had 50+ years of heavy pro-black propaganda versus less for homos.

    Obama also won because Bush was unpopular and it was a change election and his main opponent was a dead-in-the-water Hillary. So his back story wasn’t scrutinized like it should’ve been. Mayor Pete is one of more than dozen, and his failures as mayor have already been partially brought to light.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Agree. I don't think America is as desperate to prove it's not homophobic as it is to prove it's not racist.
  51. Coast Guard to Reimburse Moms on Duty to Ship Breast Milk

    25 Jun 2019

    Military.com | By Patricia Kime

    The U.S. Coast Guard announced Tuesday it will implement a program to pay shipping costs for service members who send breast milk to their babies when they are underway or on other official travel.

    The reimbursement program, funded by Coast Guard Mutual Assistance, will pay up to $750 a year per household for shipping. It will be available to all active-duty personnel, Public Health Services officers and Navy chaplains detailed to the Coast Guard, reserve members on active duty status, spouses on business travel and Coast Guard civilian employee

    Earlier this year, Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Karl Schultz promised numerous changes in the coming year designed to keep women in the service, attract female recruits and increase diversity.

    Women constitute nearly 15 percent of the Coast Guard, but they tend to leave at rates higher than men after about five years – usually during the time when they start having families.

    Groundbreaking changes in the past few months designed to strike a work-life balance for members include implementing a program that allows reserve members to backfill active-duty positions when personnel are on maternity, convalescent or caregiver leave.

    The Coast Guard also has eliminated gender-specific pronouns from promotion packages and professional evaluations. And it is exploring changes to physical standards, which are based on body mass and require a tape measurement of all personnel twice a year.

    Schultz has said the standards disproportionately affect women and cause undue stress on service members.

    🙂

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Sucking on the government teet I see.
    , @AnotherDad

    Women constitute nearly 15 percent of the Coast Guard, but they tend to leave at rates higher than men after about five years – usually during the time when they start having families.
     
    I'm such a racistsexistislamohomophobenativistnazi i actually think this is a good thing!

    I think--and have seen it myself--that kids really enjoy and thrive from snuggling up to their mom for a good suck on her breast. Mom's--with of course some uncomfortable moments--seem to reall like it too.

    Yes, i said it. It's good for moms to be home nursing their babies. Go ahead and send me to the camps.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    The U.S. Coast Guard seems to be the military service slowest to adapt to Woke. Probably because it has been a bastion for white males where the other services, certainly the Army and Navy, were more welcoming to non-whites due to the postwar integration executive order and the number of personnel they require. The USCG has always been a small and select service. Their personnel number will remain small because of budget limitations, but now you'll be able to find Somalis and white men in dresses at the SAR stations.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Goes without saying that a woman with a baby has no business being on active duty.
  52. @Lot
    There was a 29 year old girl in California who dated her 60 year old married boss. That girl was me.

    https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/willie-brown-and-kamala-harris.jpg

    There was a 32 year girl in California whose 63 year old boyfriend-boss found her a job that paid $72,000 a year for 12 days a year of work on the California Medical Assistance Board. That girl was me.

    This is hilarious.

  53. @Hail

    Kamala is probably lying
     
    All an elaborate way to deliver a dog-whistle-reminder that she is 'Black.' Political salivation over the South Carolina primary coming in seven months.

    (Asterisk: Kamala has no US slave ancestry and is half Hindu. Black she may look, exotic-Black, but she is not a real Black American.)

    Ever seen pictures of her Jamaican father? He’s much lighter than she is.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Ever seen pictures of her Jamaican father? He’s much lighter than she is.
     
    Only somewhat lighter, I'd say.

    While we're on the topic, Harris' Indian grandfather looked pretty black, at least in this photo. It's pretty hard to say. The skin tones of brown people vary wildly, from one photograph to another and may be quite different from the way they actually are in real life. Something to do with color balance and exposure, I think.

    https://www.lassiwithlavina.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kamala-Harris-with-maternal-grandparents-768x527.jpg

  54. Sending other White kids to ghetto schools is a winner for single White women.

    Facebook probably has done extensive research on all of Harris policy proposal s. She is their creature.

  55. @Thomas
    By the way, appointing herself the authority to declare Biden not a racist, and then cross-examining him, were pretty effective at belittling him. He looked like he was about to cry. Joe is part of that generation of old white liberals who reflexively cringe on anything having to do with race. He's got no defense against this line of attack. And his intended path to the nomination can't afford to risk alienating black voters by punching back. My take from tonight: he's the Jeb! in this race.

    This is going to get very amusing. Kamala’s got every reason to go after him hard. The more she damages him the more stuff (VP, Cabinet, or whatever) he’ll have to promise her. And if she actually kills off his campaign all the better.

    He’s not going to perform as pathetically as Jeb but she’s got a lot of power over him. It seems being the only candidate checking the black and female boxes has its perks.

    Biden also came off as a little tired and old. Way more than Bernie or Trump.

  56. I didn’t watch or read about it.

    • Agree: Sextus Empiricus
  57. @Larry, San Francisco
    Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.

    Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.

    Pretty much every word you typed is exactly how Democrats get elected to positions of power. And all the MSM have to do is cast “busing” as another aspect of Racism and White Injury and they can ride it all the way to the White House. And just about anywhere else they want to go.

  58. Anon[265] • Disclaimer says:

    My LA high school had bussed in black kids, from Inglewood, in the early 197os. What was that? My impression was that it was voluntary. The kids seemed on the smarter, more well behaved end of the scale. There were only a couple per class, more girls than boys, no trouble at all.

  59. @Reg Cæsar

    There was a little girl in California who was bussed to school.
     
    Now that sounds like sexual harassment!


    https://akm-img-a-in.tosshub.com/indiatoday/images/story/201510/kiss-story_647_102015060531.jpg

    Heh, should have known you’d be the one to catch that 😉

    • Replies: @Anon
    Yeah, I used bussed in myself, thought it was funny, changed it to bused in, and then changed back, because it didn't look right either and would be pronounced boost, I thought.

    I believe the rule is to double a final single consonant if the preceding vowel is a single letter and is short (using English's weird definitions of long and short).

    So for u pronounced uh you double; for u pronounced oo, single.

    Merriam-Webster, however says bused, or alternately bussed.

    Moral of the story: look up the word in the dictionary and take the first option.

    I took a look at a few spelling websites, and holy moly, the rules are complicated. It would be quicker to read Noam Chomsky's The Sound Patterns of English.
  60. @Larry, San Francisco
    Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.

    Never forget that Kamala’s woke pandering was immediately denounced by her bespoke father.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/kamala-harris-father-denounces-daughters-marijuana-joke

  61. @Anon
    Kamala seems to have a prosecutorial "Im the one asking the questions here" aggressive, accusatory personality. The left has concocted the verbiage to support this approach for the verbal arsenal for a willing politician to deploy.

    Kamala seems to have a prosecutorial “I’m the one asking the questions here” aggressive, accusatory personality.

    As it happens, that is the perfect mien for a Woman of Color in the Current Year.

    Interrogating the many manifestations of White Privilege takes Courage!

    I agree that she’s a bit of a lightweight and devoid of integrity.

    But are those things really liabilities, given the context?

  62. @Diversity is Great!

    Coast Guard to Reimburse Moms on Duty to Ship Breast Milk

    25 Jun 2019

    Military.com | By Patricia Kime

    The U.S. Coast Guard announced Tuesday it will implement a program to pay shipping costs for service members who send breast milk to their babies when they are underway or on other official travel.

    The reimbursement program, funded by Coast Guard Mutual Assistance, will pay up to $750 a year per household for shipping. It will be available to all active-duty personnel, Public Health Services officers and Navy chaplains detailed to the Coast Guard, reserve members on active duty status, spouses on business travel and Coast Guard civilian employee
     

    Earlier this year, Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Karl Schultz promised numerous changes in the coming year designed to keep women in the service, attract female recruits and increase diversity.

    Women constitute nearly 15 percent of the Coast Guard, but they tend to leave at rates higher than men after about five years – usually during the time when they start having families.

    Groundbreaking changes in the past few months designed to strike a work-life balance for members include implementing a program that allows reserve members to backfill active-duty positions when personnel are on maternity, convalescent or caregiver leave.

    The Coast Guard also has eliminated gender-specific pronouns from promotion packages and professional evaluations. And it is exploring changes to physical standards, which are based on body mass and require a tape measurement of all personnel twice a year.

    Schultz has said the standards disproportionately affect women and cause undue stress on service members.
     
    :)

    Sucking on the government teet I see.

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
  63. @R.G. Camara
    "Acid, Amnesty, and Abortion" were a huge loser for the D's in the 1970s, despite their base screaming for it. Nixon and Reagan smartly went for the Silent Majority folks.

    Will "Busing, Baby-killing, Boob Jobs*, and Borderlessness" be the same this time around?

    *For trannies. I couldn't think of a B-word for trannies.

    I’m assuming amnesty for Vietnam draft-dodgers correct?

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    Yes. Of course now, its for illegals. And likely lots of felons in prison.
  64. Are not Redheads (lack of melanin thru-out body) with their dappled skin the most POC?:

  65. @Buzz Mohawk
    The Brown Woman cannot be lying. Persons in protected (privileged) categories do not lie. "Certain things are true though they didn’t happen, while others are not, even if they did.”

    This may have been posted already, it is early here, but the other brown woman has been caught out lying:

    https://summit.news/2019/06/26/photos-reveal-aoc-was-crying-over-an-empty-parking-lot/

  66. @Larry, San Francisco
    Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.

    Yes, a poseur, just like Occasionally-Coherent.

    My mother, unlike hers, actually did have to clean toilets to make ends meet and so did I. And we lived in felony flats, not Westchester county.

  67. • Replies: @keypusher
    That illustrates one of Steve's themes: the weird and increasingly prevalent notion that Jim Crow was (i) nationwide and (ii) in effect until the day before yesterday. Kamala Harris is trying to pretend that she's Linda Brown. It's like guys in their 50s talking about how they're still traumatized by what they went through in 'Nam.
    , @res
    The claim they rebut is:

    She claims she was only the second class to integrate at the Berkeley public schools.
     
    The rest of that page is consistent with the possibility that she was bused for the two years that page says she was in Berkeley schools.

    Does anyone have more details?
  68. @R.G. Camara
    This is another indication that Camp of the Saints is coming true; social engineering by forcing people together against their will via government-mandate--and children, to boot.

    That busing would come back in style is unsurprising, given how cycles run and that (as Steve mentioned) the younger Left didn't live through that history and thinks its always Year Zero. But it could also be the old commies trying it again.

    Busing was one of those one-step-beyond things that drove people to Nixon and Reagan country. It was all fine to desegregate those evil Southerners with their laws down there, but now the Northern Lefties would be desegregated even if the law wasn't preventing blacks from doing things (for those law nerds out there, its the famous de jure versus de facto situation) . Watching their neighborhood schools made violent ignorant heckholes by blacks and puerto ricans drove many Northern Lefties into the suburbs and Catholic schools and supporting more"moderate" social policies.

    Boston, of course, had the famous case where a lace-curtain Irish Judge Garrity all on his own forced the city into a violent, media-glorified warzone of busing, complete with "evil" whites and "noble" blacks "just tryin' to get educamated". After a few too many Globe employees and Democrats at City Hall were mugged/beaten by the blacks bussed in, there was a downgrade in support. Also, the whites were lucky to have in their corner the corrupt, violent, but useful Bulger Brothers in power then, Billy in the State House and Whitey in his gang allied with the FBI. With them whites were able to short-circuit some of the policies implemented in more unfortunate places.

    That busing would come back in style is unsurprising, given how cycles run and that (as Steve mentioned) the younger Left didn’t live through that history and thinks its always Year Zero.

  69. @Hail

    Kamala is probably lying
     
    All an elaborate way to deliver a dog-whistle-reminder that she is 'Black.' Political salivation over the South Carolina primary coming in seven months.

    (Asterisk: Kamala has no US slave ancestry and is half Hindu. Black she may look, exotic-Black, but she is not a real Black American.)

    The Genius Coates pointed out that she attended Howard in defending her blackness. Case closed.

    Audacious Epilogue prediction looks to be on the money on Kamal being the nominee.

    • Replies: @bored identity
    Ann Coulter was the first one to recognize potential strength of Kamala's Wimmin- Blackhindian PoCemon Trifecta.

    The game changer could be earlier than usual California primary.

    Yet, bored identity just can't precog Harris to be in top 3 in Iowa, while Biden, Sanders, and Warren will scoop that same spots in NH.
  70. @Anon
    Kamala seems to have a prosecutorial "Im the one asking the questions here" aggressive, accusatory personality. The left has concocted the verbiage to support this approach for the verbal arsenal for a willing politician to deploy.

    Kamala has mastered the art of “black royalty”. All whites must either bend the knee or they are “haters”.

    Joe just got ambushed by the new paradigm.

  71. @Lot
    Joe’s lead is almost all with blacks. He’s leading by 2 points with whites and 30-40 with blacks. Going after Kamala is a bad move for him, so taking her lashing quietly was his best move.

    I wonder how she’s going to do among blacks. I’ve seen some comments pointing out how she’s not ADoS. If I were working some squirrely outside whispering/meme-generating campaign against her, I’d try to get trending the observation that “she’d put plenty of black men in jail but she wouldn’t marry one.” (Her husband, who she married at the age of 49, is a white, Jewish lawyer from LA.)

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    As a rule, men hate seeing women of their own race with men of a different race, but are usually fine with men of their same race dating women of other races. It's a conqueror's mindset: in the past, when men were with a women of another race, it was usually because the men had conquered that woman's people, and usually slaughtered much of the men folk and enslaved the women.
    There's also probably a lot of genetic reasons for why men feel this that we haven't discovered yet.

    And yes, black men do feel this way, very much so.

    Black women, however, tend to have mixed feelings about black women who date outside their race. On one hand, it's viewed as a betrayal to the race, but on the other, it's a sign the black woman is moving up in the world and is finally beating those Beckys at their own game. Plus, its so frightfully hard for a black woman to attract a non-black male's attention that when one does break through its a mini-miracle. And of course the fact that non-black men are usually more powerful, more intelligent, and more wealthy than black men. Scandal, for example, got a lot of black women's loving attention when the lead black female became the white president's mistress.

    So Kamala's Jewish man marriage might have more of a negative effect on black men than black women.

  72. Anonymous[428] • Disclaimer says:

    If Harris cares so much about blackness, why did she spend her entire life attending white schools and hanging with rich Jews? You’d think blacks would be proud to be with other blacks, but lots of blacks want to be bussed OUT of black areas.

    Is it so terrible for blacks to attend black schools? Must blacks be removed from blackness-as-plague?

    Blacks must be like leeches that cannot draw sustenance from one another and therefore must suck on white fish.

    As for San Fran, they have ‘gentrigation’ that is haute segregation.

  73. It seems Democrats are coalescing around the notion that they’re going to reboot all of the policies that cost them dearly 40 or 50 years ago, only this time it won’t hurt them because they’ve got demographics on their side. The only reason it flopped 40 or 50 years ago, the reasoning goes, is because we didn’t do it hard enough, because those damn middle class white people got a vote.

    They might be right about the demographics, but it’s still weird to see a party trying to revisit and resurrect its most conspicuous failures. It’s like a GOP primary 20 years from now if all the candidates were vowing to embroil us in an even bigger, more pointless regional war while creating a much bigger and riskier housing bubble. We’re watching the left-wing equivalent of neocons arguing that the Iraq war was a failure only because not enough people died.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
    Learnt nothing, and forgotten nothing.
  74. @Kronos
    I’m assuming amnesty for Vietnam draft-dodgers correct?

    Yes. Of course now, its for illegals. And likely lots of felons in prison.

  75. I’m over 50 and my whole life my schools and the media have told me busing was an unalloyed good. The negatives about busing weren’t memory holed, they were never acknowledged in the first place. If you showed Steve’s post to the average Democrat they would haven’t the foggiest what he’s on about. Politically Harris made a smart move even if in reality she’s wrong.

  76. @Lot
    Watched most of the debate this time.

    I like Bernie the most in theory, but he was pretty bad. Shouting every single word the whole time and looking decrepit.

    Joe looks less decrepit and was a lot friendlier. He had some senior moments where he lost his train of thought, but then so does Trump.

    Gillibrand was an aged Barbie with a Minnie Mouse voice. She seemed to be angling to be Bernie’s VP.

    Kamala was really angry at and wagged her finger at Joe and metaphorically white America. At times she looked unhinged, as did Bernie. She had some good moments too, and PredictIt seemed to see her as a huge winner, going from 12 to 20.

    Mayor Pete was earnest, intelligent and likeable. I’d seriously worry that in 2020 he’s elected to show the world America isn’t homophobic.

    The moderators were openly hostile to Biden and Bernie while serving Kamala nothing but gentle softballs. It was pretty blatant.

    Letting Marrianne Williamson on the stage made the whole Dem Party look incompetent. Of course the GOP has recovered from similar kooks on the stage early debates.

    ‘…The moderators were openly hostile to Biden and Bernie while serving Kamala nothing but gentle softballs. It was pretty blatant…’

    It’s the flip side of why Gabbard is shut out. Harris has made it very clear she’ll do exactly as Israel wishes.

    We’re headed for another heads Israel wins, tails she…wins election. Both parties will nominate candidates that love Israel the bestest.

  77. @Thomas
    I wonder how she’s going to do among blacks. I’ve seen some comments pointing out how she’s not ADoS. If I were working some squirrely outside whispering/meme-generating campaign against her, I’d try to get trending the observation that “she’d put plenty of black men in jail but she wouldn’t marry one.” (Her husband, who she married at the age of 49, is a white, Jewish lawyer from LA.)

    As a rule, men hate seeing women of their own race with men of a different race, but are usually fine with men of their same race dating women of other races. It’s a conqueror’s mindset: in the past, when men were with a women of another race, it was usually because the men had conquered that woman’s people, and usually slaughtered much of the men folk and enslaved the women.
    There’s also probably a lot of genetic reasons for why men feel this that we haven’t discovered yet.

    And yes, black men do feel this way, very much so.

    Black women, however, tend to have mixed feelings about black women who date outside their race. On one hand, it’s viewed as a betrayal to the race, but on the other, it’s a sign the black woman is moving up in the world and is finally beating those Beckys at their own game. Plus, its so frightfully hard for a black woman to attract a non-black male’s attention that when one does break through its a mini-miracle. And of course the fact that non-black men are usually more powerful, more intelligent, and more wealthy than black men. Scandal, for example, got a lot of black women’s loving attention when the lead black female became the white president’s mistress.

    So Kamala’s Jewish man marriage might have more of a negative effect on black men than black women.

    • Replies: @Alden
    If they even know she’s married.
  78. @Alden
    Ever seen pictures of her Jamaican father? He’s much lighter than she is.

    Ever seen pictures of her Jamaican father? He’s much lighter than she is.

    Only somewhat lighter, I’d say.

    While we’re on the topic, Harris’ Indian grandfather looked pretty black, at least in this photo. It’s pretty hard to say. The skin tones of brown people vary wildly, from one photograph to another and may be quite different from the way they actually are in real life. Something to do with color balance and exposure, I think.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Happy, friendly-looking bunch, weren't they? Yeah, we need more of that in America.
  79. After all, who doesn’t love busing?

    Have you ever met a hard-core liberal who doesn’t love busing? The point of the debates is to win the nomination, not the general. Harris knows that the core audience for this debate is the type of left-of-center, affluent, educated Democratic voter who takes it on faith that “busing is good” and “racism is evil”. Those are the people who will deliver her the nomination. Then she can pivot back to being the DA who is harsh on black crime when she’s running against Trump. Biden is already campaigning as a centrist to reach the marginal Trump voter, but maybe he should worry more about locking up the nomination first.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate's stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.

    Why do we even bother to vote?

    Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?

    Is it best to make a choice, with no information, or is it best to make no choice at all?

    In the scheme of elections and your one vote out of many, is there any strategy at all?
    , @reiner Tor
    Exactly, that’s what I thought, too.

    Except that, whatever they say now, can be used against them later. If the eventual Democratic candidate veers too much to the left now, then it might be difficult for him/her/xer to move back to the center next summer.
    , @ben tillman

    Have you ever met a hard-core liberal who doesn’t love busing?
     
    I have no idea. I haven't heard a liberal talk about busing in decades.
    , @MarkinLA
    Remember the media kept telling us that Trump was out of step with "real America" when it was they who were. The same is probably true of busing. Nobody will openly say it sucked like they won't openly say what they think about having to send their kids to predominantly black schools.

    You don't have to be a "racist" to be against it. You can simply hate it because of it's high cost on you and your children in terms of time and money.
  80. What a sour little girl she was.

    • Replies: @68W58
    That was my reaction to that picture as well, she looks like a pinch faced little scold. Of course, that’s essentially what she became when she grew up, so the child really was the “father of the man”.
  81. @PiltdownMan

    Ever seen pictures of her Jamaican father? He’s much lighter than she is.
     
    Only somewhat lighter, I'd say.

    While we're on the topic, Harris' Indian grandfather looked pretty black, at least in this photo. It's pretty hard to say. The skin tones of brown people vary wildly, from one photograph to another and may be quite different from the way they actually are in real life. Something to do with color balance and exposure, I think.

    https://www.lassiwithlavina.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kamala-Harris-with-maternal-grandparents-768x527.jpg

    Happy, friendly-looking bunch, weren’t they? Yeah, we need more of that in America.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Happy, friendly-looking bunch, weren’t they? Yeah, we need more of that in America.
     
    To the grandparents credit, they didn't emigrate. The grandfather served his country as a diplomat and retired there. That's exactly what we want.

    But they did send their 19 year old daughter off from Delhi to grad school at Berkeley.

    A footnote. Smiling or grinning at the camera in group photographs used to be quite unusual, even in America. It's a thing that seems to have started soon after WWII.
    , @Marcus
    Indians seem to be really taciturn, yet they're among the most vocal of the liberal coalition somehow, I guess the autism takes them from one extreme to the other
  82. anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:

    The most important example of a Jew who went to a public school in LA is of course Stephen Miller.

    That is how he became woke. (I attended samohi with him)

    Makes me laugh when I see our age (some of them famous) screaming about the glories of diversity when I know they went to Crossroads or harvard-westlake.

    Maybe Miller’s parents were clueless transplants? I know they had enough money. And maybe they knew the elementary schools in Santa Monica were good. But did they think Santa Monica *High* would be populated by their neighbors in, you know, Santa Monica?

    • Replies: @IHTG
    I think his family is originally from Pennsylvania.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Liberals and cuckservatives have been saying for I don't know long that "prejudice is ignorance." Sometimes that true, but IMO, there's plenty of justified "familiarity breeds contempt." They don't want to admit that white gentiles may be justified in avoiding, fearing or despising other tribes.
  83. @Justice Duvall
    Kamala is betting that, to Millenial voters, "busing" is just some vague, liberal thing that Mean White Conservatives stopped.

    Therefore, busing (whatever it is) is good.

    Also it might be good in the primaries, even if it’s a losing issue in the general election.

  84. So Kamala attributes her success to busing? Bet that makes Wet Willie feel special.

  85. @Buzz Mohawk
    Happy, friendly-looking bunch, weren't they? Yeah, we need more of that in America.

    Happy, friendly-looking bunch, weren’t they? Yeah, we need more of that in America.

    To the grandparents credit, they didn’t emigrate. The grandfather served his country as a diplomat and retired there. That’s exactly what we want.

    But they did send their 19 year old daughter off from Delhi to grad school at Berkeley.

    A footnote. Smiling or grinning at the camera in group photographs used to be quite unusual, even in America. It’s a thing that seems to have started soon after WWII.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Good points. I jumped the gun on that one, what a jerk.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    When was the photo taken - in the 1970s?
  86. @Tiny Duck
    You guys need to read Nikole Hannah Jones

    Busing was good for Black Children

    It was also good for white girls if you know what I mean

    Harris will be the next president

    No, TD, the chosen one will be Stacey Abrams, but she’ll have to go through Slow-Joe or Bolshi-Bernie to get to the oval orifice.

  87. @Peter Akuleyev
    After all, who doesn’t love busing?

    Have you ever met a hard-core liberal who doesn't love busing? The point of the debates is to win the nomination, not the general. Harris knows that the core audience for this debate is the type of left-of-center, affluent, educated Democratic voter who takes it on faith that "busing is good" and "racism is evil". Those are the people who will deliver her the nomination. Then she can pivot back to being the DA who is harsh on black crime when she's running against Trump. Biden is already campaigning as a centrist to reach the marginal Trump voter, but maybe he should worry more about locking up the nomination first.

    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate’s stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.

    Why do we even bother to vote?

    Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?

    Is it best to make a choice, with no information, or is it best to make no choice at all?

    In the scheme of elections and your one vote out of many, is there any strategy at all?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."

    Sorry, Buzz, I've got Rush music in my head from a coupla days back.

    I was thinking the same thing when I read Mr. Akuleyev's comment, which I agree is right. The problem is that American voters, with their ridiculously short or uncaring memories of politics, let these politicians get away with this. I don't see much fact-checking by the Lyin' Press either.
    , @Charon
    Hence, the rise of identity politics. Might as well judge them by what they look like.

    "She's a woman/mother/lesbian/POC like me, so I just know she understands my problems."

    , @Harry Baldwin
    This is a great point. When Hillary and Barack were contending for the Democratic nomination, what was one of their big points of difference? Hillary said the national healthcare plan would be mandatory, while Barack said it would be optional. When Barack was elected and his plan was drawn up in congress, it was mandatory. So if that difference determined your choice of candidate in the primaries, you got snookered.
    , @Stebbing Heuer
    One of the reasons party affiliation emerged as a 'thing' was to economise on the information that voters needed in order to make an informed decision.

    If a person had been pre-selected by a party, then there was a reasonable chance that that person would vote for policies and administrative measures that were aligned with the goals and values of their party.

    Sort of a Pareto distribution outcome: voters could get 80 per cent of the information that they needed by investing only 20 per cent of the time that they would theoretically need in order to know a candidate.

    Political branding, if you like. People essentially vote for parties, rather than people. For example, would anyone have voted for Dubya if he had stood as an independent?
    , @International Jew

    Game theory question...
     
    There was once a candidate for governor of California who gave us a fascinating guarantee as to his reliability. He was a single issue candidate and his issue was that cigarettes were taxed excessively; he wanted cigarettes taxed at the sales tax just like food or clothing.

    He had the perfect plan: if all smokers voted for him, he might win, because there were 130 candidates that year (Arnold Schwartzenegger ended up winning).

    And why should smokers trust him? Because he was the founder and owner of the Cigarettes for Less chain. He told us, "Unlike other candidates, who can lie to you with impunity, if I'm elected and I betray you, then you can punish me by taking your business to my competitors."

    I was so impressed that I voted for him even though I've never smoked. (He was a solid fiscal conservative otherwise too, but I wouldn't of even heard of him if not for the smoking angle.)

    , @prime noticer
    "Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?"

    you vote republican.

    the republican may or may not deliver.

    the democrat is always a lying, anti-American, anti-white $%*@ who wants to eliminate you.

    you don't need any additional information to know that. you can count on that 100% of the time. no matter what they say, that is what they will do.

    roll the dice, or get HIV. your choice. easy choice.

    most of the time, voting is actually very easy. the only time voting requires any thought is during the republican primary. that's the only time you have think about what each dice roll might bring.
    , @Moses

    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate’s stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.
     
    Politicians say what they need to say in order to win elections. Then they do anything they want with zero consequence.

    This is an incentives problem.

    Laws that would allow candidates to make "official promises" might correct that. Official Promises would be treated like contracts. If an elected official violated a promise he would be booted from office and/or suffer a financial penalty.

    Incentives matter.
  88. @Peter Akuleyev
    After all, who doesn’t love busing?

    Have you ever met a hard-core liberal who doesn't love busing? The point of the debates is to win the nomination, not the general. Harris knows that the core audience for this debate is the type of left-of-center, affluent, educated Democratic voter who takes it on faith that "busing is good" and "racism is evil". Those are the people who will deliver her the nomination. Then she can pivot back to being the DA who is harsh on black crime when she's running against Trump. Biden is already campaigning as a centrist to reach the marginal Trump voter, but maybe he should worry more about locking up the nomination first.

    Exactly, that’s what I thought, too.

    Except that, whatever they say now, can be used against them later. If the eventual Democratic candidate veers too much to the left now, then it might be difficult for him/her/xer to move back to the center next summer.

    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager

    Except that, whatever they say now, can be used against them later
     
    And thus the concentrated push to bury any dissenting voices now, so this can all be happily disappeared come the general election. It's the Massacre of the Memes, a digital Sicilian Vespers.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    Talk like this of changing positions and election tactics brings back memories of college students talking more about grades and scores than about what they were actually learning. Many appeared to have no interest in the subject matter other than how it would effect their grades.

    This approach is soulless, and it is common enough that there should be a word for it. Is there? Sapir-Whorf demands one.

    Is there any legitimacy to candidates who do this? Does it serve some market value, like a corporation changing a product based on survey results? How often do politicians then take action once elected in response to what their election research discovered were the desires of the electorate?

  89. @PiltdownMan

    Happy, friendly-looking bunch, weren’t they? Yeah, we need more of that in America.
     
    To the grandparents credit, they didn't emigrate. The grandfather served his country as a diplomat and retired there. That's exactly what we want.

    But they did send their 19 year old daughter off from Delhi to grad school at Berkeley.

    A footnote. Smiling or grinning at the camera in group photographs used to be quite unusual, even in America. It's a thing that seems to have started soon after WWII.

    Good points. I jumped the gun on that one, what a jerk.

  90. @Thomas
    By the way, appointing herself the authority to declare Biden not a racist, and then cross-examining him, were pretty effective at belittling him. He looked like he was about to cry. Joe is part of that generation of old white liberals who reflexively cringe on anything having to do with race. He's got no defense against this line of attack. And his intended path to the nomination can't afford to risk alienating black voters by punching back. My take from tonight: he's the Jeb! in this race.

    The thing is, Biden doesn’t have the courage or the energy to fight the radical tide of his party. It’s sad to watch.

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
    Nor sufficient functioning cerebral synapses.
    , @J.Ross
    What appeal to sanity can he make now that he played White Butler for Barack?
  91. I was going to say that running on a divisive, unpopular issue now 40 years in the past doesn’t seem a winning strategy, but slavery ended over 150 years ago and they’re still beating the cracked, desiccated bones of that dead horse.

  92. Busing was my first trigger to a long hatred of liberal hypocrites….all my pals were negatively affected by it in all sorts of ways…kids from charlestown used the word liberal as a generic insult the way we used the words faggot or pussey

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    I understand why - the children of the self-righteous moral grandstanding liberals weren't bused. On top of that, the liberals considered you, the other kids and your familes from Charlestown to be "racist" for not wanting to be bused. I loathe moral grandstanding, too.
  93. @reiner Tor
    Exactly, that’s what I thought, too.

    Except that, whatever they say now, can be used against them later. If the eventual Democratic candidate veers too much to the left now, then it might be difficult for him/her/xer to move back to the center next summer.

    Except that, whatever they say now, can be used against them later

    And thus the concentrated push to bury any dissenting voices now, so this can all be happily disappeared come the general election. It’s the Massacre of the Memes, a digital Sicilian Vespers.

  94. @reiner Tor
    Exactly, that’s what I thought, too.

    Except that, whatever they say now, can be used against them later. If the eventual Democratic candidate veers too much to the left now, then it might be difficult for him/her/xer to move back to the center next summer.

    Talk like this of changing positions and election tactics brings back memories of college students talking more about grades and scores than about what they were actually learning. Many appeared to have no interest in the subject matter other than how it would effect their grades.

    This approach is soulless, and it is common enough that there should be a word for it. Is there? Sapir-Whorf demands one.

    Is there any legitimacy to candidates who do this? Does it serve some market value, like a corporation changing a product based on survey results? How often do politicians then take action once elected in response to what their election research discovered were the desires of the electorate?

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    Many appeared to have no interest in the subject matter other than how it would effect their grades.

    This approach is soulless, and it is common enough that there should be a word for it. Is there? Sapir-Whorf demands one.
     
    Way back when, before college became an inverse intelligence test, the common perception was that college was a prolonged endurance / intelligence / submission test. I regret to say that experience suggests that's exactly what it was. Corporations wanted smart people with considerable stamina who would do what they were told. The Sapir Whorf word for the process was "BS", at least among engineering students, or just S*** [1] among Army infantrymen and (I suspect) blue collar workers. The polite equivalent was harassment. It wasn't uncommon for students to ask professors to simply give them a A in the course because the students were going to be managers and didn't really need to know the course content.

    This changed as the power of corporations waned and as the political power of swing voting blocks increased. Today, they don't bother to test for intelligence. From what I've been told, even in CS the languages taught don't keep up with commercial standard languages.

    As far as politicians spending all their time and money to make plausible lies, the word "politician" has usually sufficed in polite company, and words that the moderator wouoldn't let pass have been used on other occasions.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Common advice among engineering students:
    You just have to put up with this s***.

    Common marching cadence, c.a. 1970:
    Well here we go,
    We're at it again.
    This G** D***** S***
    will never end!

    Amazing how many swear words are actually euphemisms.
    , @Counterinsurgency

    memories of college students talking more about grades and scores than about what they were actually learning. Many appeared to have no interest in the subject matter other than how it would affect their grades.
     
    My apologies for the previous answer. I was neck deep in that stuff for some time, and it shows.

    In more abstract terms, I think that the above is the result of a failed attempt to build commitment to a profession.

    Back in the 1960s engineering schools were difficult. One actually learned the fundamentals of most engineering disciplines -- chemistry, physics, the strange way that materials act, the use of imaginary numbers in calculating inductance/capacitance/resistor networks, the strange way fluids have when going through pipes and nozzles, mechanical drawing (with pencils!), thermodynamics, feedback (sort of) and so on. All sorts of stuff, so that the engineer could react to unexpected behavior and not make too many blunders. Today the instruction is largely on a technician level, and engineers are obsolete in five years, supposedly.

    In the 1930s, supposedly, only about a third of the engineering students got through to a four-year degree. ("Look to your left, look to your right, only one out of three will graduate).

    If the company doesn't innovate, then high levels of understanding. In fact, they tend to annoy management, which knows full well that it doesn't have the money to actually innovate, or even to fix obvious flaws. Quite often today the company is filled with politically necessary deadwood (e.g. Google) that would be threatened by innovation.

    However, the old endurance tests are retained for the same reason that fraternity initiations used to be held. After going through that, one is reluctant to join some other organization and have to go through initiation again. It builds loyalty, or at least a reluctance to change. The Marines make basic difficult in part to build a fraternity like loyalty.

    The trouble is that the initiation doesn't buy you entry into a fraternity. It buys you a position as a commodity in a market -- no security. You've gene through the initiation and you are treated as a cranky child, and apt to be replaced by an H1B. The students know that, and aren't willing to invest much to gain market entry.
    If you’re going to hae an initiation, your organization must be worth belonging to.
    So: Sapier-Whorf in management speak is "building committment". In economics, it would be "large deposit". In investment talk, "sunk investment".

    Counterinsurgency
  95. @Justice Duvall
    Kamala is betting that, to Millenial voters, "busing" is just some vague, liberal thing that Mean White Conservatives stopped.

    Therefore, busing (whatever it is) is good.

    So, it’s “neo-busing”, as in “neo-liberalism”. No wait, that last one is alive. And it’s bad. Even though it’s really social-democracy-ism. “neo” is always bad. Like “neo-Jason” coming back from the grave. It’s weird. I don’t know.

  96. Forced busing is much like Baal worship.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Agree: jim jones
  97. Anon[289] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr McKenna
    Heh, should have known you'd be the one to catch that ;)

    Yeah, I used bussed in myself, thought it was funny, changed it to bused in, and then changed back, because it didn’t look right either and would be pronounced boost, I thought.

    I believe the rule is to double a final single consonant if the preceding vowel is a single letter and is short (using English’s weird definitions of long and short).

    So for u pronounced uh you double; for u pronounced oo, single.

    Merriam-Webster, however says bused, or alternately bussed.

    Moral of the story: look up the word in the dictionary and take the first option.

    I took a look at a few spelling websites, and holy moly, the rules are complicated. It would be quicker to read Noam Chomsky’s The Sound Patterns of English.

    • Replies: @Alden
    I think bussed meant kiss in Early Modern English
    , @Jim bob Lassiter
    Learn Spanish.
  98. @R.G. Camara
    "Acid, Amnesty, and Abortion" were a huge loser for the D's in the 1970s, despite their base screaming for it. Nixon and Reagan smartly went for the Silent Majority folks.

    Will "Busing, Baby-killing, Boob Jobs*, and Borderlessness" be the same this time around?

    *For trannies. I couldn't think of a B-word for trannies.

    Will “Busing, Baby-killing, Boob Jobs*, and Borderlessness” be the same this time around?

    “No wbites, no babies, no borders!”

  99. White man here. I was bused when I was nine or ten years old, in Denver, Colorado.

    To be honest, it was often terrifying, and I didn’t learn much.

    However, it made my liberal, self-hating boomer parents feel much better, and that’s what counts.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    However, it made my liberal, self-hating boomer parents feel much better, and that’s what counts.
     
    Did you tell them how you felt? Tell them that they were souless cretins?

    (BTW--not to speak for your experience which only you know--but they may well have hated it, but not felt they had any power to do anything about it and been trying to put the best face on it.)

  100. @indocon
    The Genius Coates pointed out that she attended Howard in defending her blackness. Case closed.

    Audacious Epilogue prediction looks to be on the money on Kamal being the nominee.

    Ann Coulter was the first one to recognize potential strength of Kamala’s Wimmin- Blackhindian PoCemon Trifecta.

    The game changer could be earlier than usual California primary.

    Yet, bored identity just can’t precog Harris to be in top 3 in Iowa, while Biden, Sanders, and Warren will scoop that same spots in NH.

    • Replies: @indocon
    This is where the Democratic primary rules come in, unlike Republicans they are going to hand out delegates proportionally, that means you don't necessarily have to be in top 3 in early states to survive until super Tuesday. Trump would have never won under the Democratic primary rules.
  101. @Big Dick Bandit
    ......in fairness......it works pretty well (definitely much better than bussing black+latin kids into white schools).

    the Wake County Public School System was one of the best in the country for decades, and while it isn't all kumbaya--you still get lots of black kids who overwhelmingly hang out with black kids--there really is a much greater presence of black+latin students in AP/IB/"Gifted" classes than in other systems....while not compromising white/azn student outcomes.

    it's not perfect, but much better than other system.

    In a way, such success stories do more harm than good: judges and politicians seize upon these examples to mandate it for the rest of us; when it doesn’t work so well, they hector us to try harder like Wake county.

  102. @Larry, San Francisco
    Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.

    Kamala grew up in a duplex on Bancroft Way between Browning and Bonar. This is in the racially mixed Berkeley flatlands. It wasn’t a ghetto but it was far from being an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her Jamaican father had already left and so she was brought up by her mother. She was bused to Thousand Oaks Elementary School which is in a really posh part of town. There is no question that she would have benefited from going to this school instead of the one in her neighborhood.

    What’s not being mentioned is that despite their busing program, Berkeley public schools are the most racist in the US in terms of perpetuating the white / black achievement gap.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-atlantic-notices-what-i-wrote-about-in-2016-berkeley-schools-have-worst-race-gap-in-usa/

  103. @Anon7
    She might be confusing it with "bussing" i.e. non-sexual social kisses like she gave her old boyfriend, 60 year-old Willie Brown, while he was giving her a leg up with her career.

    I believe you’re confused as to who was giving who shots of leg.

  104. @Marty T
    The thing is, Biden doesn't have the courage or the energy to fight the radical tide of his party. It's sad to watch.

    Nor sufficient functioning cerebral synapses.

  105. Just a gentle reminder:

    Eisenhauer ordered the Native Born White American Working Class Males of the 101 Airborne to force Negro Males on teenage Southern White Females in the High Schools of the American South….

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    That is because White men were largely irrelevant due to Chrome zDome.

    One more data point prolonged peace is bad for Western people's. Too much peace White men are threat not asset to ruling class.

    FOR dated not desegregat e schools in WWII. Would have had massive mutiny.
  106. @Buzz Mohawk
    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate's stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.

    Why do we even bother to vote?

    Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?

    Is it best to make a choice, with no information, or is it best to make no choice at all?

    In the scheme of elections and your one vote out of many, is there any strategy at all?

    “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

    Sorry, Buzz, I’ve got Rush music in my head from a coupla days back.

    I was thinking the same thing when I read Mr. Akuleyev’s comment, which I agree is right. The problem is that American voters, with their ridiculously short or uncaring memories of politics, let these politicians get away with this. I don’t see much fact-checking by the Lyin’ Press either.

  107. @anonymous
    The most important example of a Jew who went to a public school in LA is of course Stephen Miller.

    That is how he became woke. (I attended samohi with him)

    Makes me laugh when I see our age (some of them famous) screaming about the glories of diversity when I know they went to Crossroads or harvard-westlake.

    Maybe Miller's parents were clueless transplants? I know they had enough money. And maybe they knew the elementary schools in Santa Monica were good. But did they think Santa Monica *High* would be populated by their neighbors in, you know, Santa Monica?

    I think his family is originally from Pennsylvania.

  108. @R.G. Camara
    This is another indication that Camp of the Saints is coming true; social engineering by forcing people together against their will via government-mandate--and children, to boot.

    That busing would come back in style is unsurprising, given how cycles run and that (as Steve mentioned) the younger Left didn't live through that history and thinks its always Year Zero. But it could also be the old commies trying it again.

    Busing was one of those one-step-beyond things that drove people to Nixon and Reagan country. It was all fine to desegregate those evil Southerners with their laws down there, but now the Northern Lefties would be desegregated even if the law wasn't preventing blacks from doing things (for those law nerds out there, its the famous de jure versus de facto situation) . Watching their neighborhood schools made violent ignorant heckholes by blacks and puerto ricans drove many Northern Lefties into the suburbs and Catholic schools and supporting more"moderate" social policies.

    Boston, of course, had the famous case where a lace-curtain Irish Judge Garrity all on his own forced the city into a violent, media-glorified warzone of busing, complete with "evil" whites and "noble" blacks "just tryin' to get educamated". After a few too many Globe employees and Democrats at City Hall were mugged/beaten by the blacks bussed in, there was a downgrade in support. Also, the whites were lucky to have in their corner the corrupt, violent, but useful Bulger Brothers in power then, Billy in the State House and Whitey in his gang allied with the FBI. With them whites were able to short-circuit some of the policies implemented in more unfortunate places.

    When bringing up Whitey Bulger, let’s not forget to mention his connection to that man of impeccable integrity, Robert Mueller.

    Ripping FBI special counsel Robert Mueller as a political “zealot,” Harvard law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz reminded staunch Mueller supporters about the former FBI director’s role in protecting “notorious mass murderer” Whitey Bulger as an FBI informant….

    “He’s the guy who kept four innocent people in prison for many years in order to protect the cover of Whitey Bulger as an FBI informer. Those of us in Boston don’t have such a high regard for Mueller because we remember this story. The government had to pay out tens of millions of dollars because Whitey Bulger, a notorious mass murderer, became a government informer against the mafia . . .

    “And that’s regarded in Boston of one of the great scandals of modern judicial history. And Mueller was right at the center of it. So, he is not without criticism by people who know him in Boston.”

    • Agree: PV van der Byl
    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    “And that’s regarded in Boston of one of the great scandals of modern judicial history. And Mueller was right at the center of it."

    Well, old Whitey won't be running his mouth now, will he?
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Psycho Agent Man Peter Strzok worked in the Boston FBI office at the time:

    https://howiecarrshow.com/2018/08/17/peter-strzok-drank-that-dirty-water/
  109. @Lot
    There was a 29 year old girl in California who dated her 60 year old married boss. That girl was me.

    https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/willie-brown-and-kamala-harris.jpg

    There was a 32 year girl in California whose 63 year old boyfriend-boss found her a job that paid $72,000 a year for 12 days a year of work on the California Medical Assistance Board. That girl was me.

    Kamala’s spelling of “busing” as “bussing” may be a reference to her appearance.

    From urban dictionary – bussin – to look real cute or have a nice body, jugs – a woman’s breasts. Especially when large and shapely.

  110. @Buzz Mohawk
    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate's stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.

    Why do we even bother to vote?

    Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?

    Is it best to make a choice, with no information, or is it best to make no choice at all?

    In the scheme of elections and your one vote out of many, is there any strategy at all?

    Hence, the rise of identity politics. Might as well judge them by what they look like.

    “She’s a woman/mother/lesbian/POC like me, so I just know she understands my problems.”

    • Replies: @Neuday

    Hence, the rise of identity politics. Might as well judge them by what they look like.

    “She’s a woman/mother/lesbian/POC like me, so I just know she understands my problems.”
     
    So if you have no reliable data, trust the stereotype. That's what I do, all day, everyday.
  111. My guess is the only people who really care about busing and want it brought back are woke whites who don’t have kids – many black parents are not particularly concerned that their kids spend lots of time around white ones, and even woke white parents are only in favor of it if it means the diverse kids have been carefully curated.

    But it’s still probably an effective primary issue in that it reminds black voters of racial exclusion, which also gets childless progressives off as well.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Big city busing was always pure social engineering justified with pettifogging ass-pulls dreamed up by egomaniacs on the bench and in the public interest bar.

    The discrete complaint in the Brown case was that the plaintiff's daughter was transported all over the place because the Topeka Board maintained parallel school systems and the plaintiff's daughter didn't live near the black schools. That's not an issue when neighborhood schools are the mode, as they were in Boston. Southern schools could have been desegregated by having open enrollment systems where blacks formed a critical mass of the whole population of students and, where they didn't, closing tiny negro schools and assigning their students to the regular schools. In both the north and the South, you could have addressed any service deficits by amending state aid formulae, distributing each district's budget for current expenditure on a per pupil basis, and allowing students to enroll at a cooperative service center if they were eligible for a specialty service not available at their local school.
    , @Desiderius
    It's not about policy in the present, it's about impugning the past.
  112. @R.G. Camara
    This is another indication that Camp of the Saints is coming true; social engineering by forcing people together against their will via government-mandate--and children, to boot.

    That busing would come back in style is unsurprising, given how cycles run and that (as Steve mentioned) the younger Left didn't live through that history and thinks its always Year Zero. But it could also be the old commies trying it again.

    Busing was one of those one-step-beyond things that drove people to Nixon and Reagan country. It was all fine to desegregate those evil Southerners with their laws down there, but now the Northern Lefties would be desegregated even if the law wasn't preventing blacks from doing things (for those law nerds out there, its the famous de jure versus de facto situation) . Watching their neighborhood schools made violent ignorant heckholes by blacks and puerto ricans drove many Northern Lefties into the suburbs and Catholic schools and supporting more"moderate" social policies.

    Boston, of course, had the famous case where a lace-curtain Irish Judge Garrity all on his own forced the city into a violent, media-glorified warzone of busing, complete with "evil" whites and "noble" blacks "just tryin' to get educamated". After a few too many Globe employees and Democrats at City Hall were mugged/beaten by the blacks bussed in, there was a downgrade in support. Also, the whites were lucky to have in their corner the corrupt, violent, but useful Bulger Brothers in power then, Billy in the State House and Whitey in his gang allied with the FBI. With them whites were able to short-circuit some of the policies implemented in more unfortunate places.

    Boston, of course, had the famous case where a lace-curtain Irish Judge Garrity all on his own forced the city into a violent, media-glorified warzone of busing, complete with “evil” whites and “noble” blacks “just tryin’ to get educamated”

    F’ing Judge Garrity lived in Wellesley, one of the wealthiest Boston suburbs. Far, far away from any busing strife. Wellesley College is where Hillary went to college. Situated in Wellesley of course.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    The federal judge who tossed most of the Yonkers City Council in jail in 1985 for noncompliance (because they hadn't situated public housing projects where the judge thought they should be sited) lived in Pound Ridge, NY, which has no public housing. Ordinarily, this sort of ad hominem reasoning might be invalid, except that the legal reasoning behind the notion that public housing or school demographics had to be in accordance with the judges' preferences had little to do with any constitutional provision, their pretensions notwithstanding. In Boston, you had professional-class types in the school apparat and the legal system preventing vigorous discipline and then you had professional class types in the legal profession forcing on working class whites student populations which contained a critical mass of people who needed...vigorous discipline, and, in many cases, to be sequestered. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the professionals were completely free of the costs of their own prescriptions (unless they actually worked in these schools).
  113. @Larry, San Francisco
    Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.

    Kamala is such a phony.

    Most politicians at her level are. Certainly most of the people on that stage are.

  114. @Anon
    Post here claims Harris lied about the whole thing:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/06/she-lied-kamala-harris-says-she-was-in-second-integrated-class-in-berkeley-but-yearbok-pictures-prove-shes-lying/

    That illustrates one of Steve’s themes: the weird and increasingly prevalent notion that Jim Crow was (i) nationwide and (ii) in effect until the day before yesterday. Kamala Harris is trying to pretend that she’s Linda Brown. It’s like guys in their 50s talking about how they’re still traumatized by what they went through in ‘Nam.

  115. @R.G. Camara

    S0me time ago the late David Brudnoy interviewed Billy on radio station WBZ. I was pleasantly shocked by his buttoned-down persona – that of an erudite, smooth, low-key academic.
     
    How do you think he survived for so long and never got pinched? He could turn on the charm a million different ways when needed. On St. Patrick's Day to the Southie folk he was the old-school Irish pol with the back-slapping and the roast and the winking jokes, on Brudnoy he was the quiet aristocratic intellectual, etc. He probably convinced every young FBI agent and cop that he never knew a thing about Whitey's crimes or his whereabouts---only the older and more wizened knew better.

    Bill Clinton could do this well, too--change his persona to meet the audience, and yet still appear authentic (at least to the people who voted for him). This was in addition to his ability to make every individual feel like they were the most important person in the room.

    Two slimeballs with literal blood, corruption, and violent crimes on their hands who skated by without nary a conviction--partially based on reading the audience well and playing up to them perfectly. Similar in many ways, though obviously Clinton was the much bigger dog.

    still appear authentic

    Sometimes the phoniness got a little too much: a “private” moment arranging rocks into a cross on a Normandy beach; another “private” moment dancing on the beach with Hillary during the Lewinsky scandal; carrying a bible around during the Lewinsky scandal; instantly going from laughing to crying as he left Ron Brown’s funeral and noticed the cameras; etc, etc.

  116. @R.G. Camara

    Mayor Pete was earnest, intelligent and likeable. I’d seriously worry that in 2020 he’s elected to show the world America isn’t homophobic.
     
    Sexual proclivity is not race. Just like gender is not race. We've also had 50+ years of heavy pro-black propaganda versus less for homos.

    Obama also won because Bush was unpopular and it was a change election and his main opponent was a dead-in-the-water Hillary. So his back story wasn't scrutinized like it should've been. Mayor Pete is one of more than dozen, and his failures as mayor have already been partially brought to light.

    Agree. I don’t think America is as desperate to prove it’s not homophobic as it is to prove it’s not racist.

    • Agree: AnotherDad
  117. @Thomas
    By the way, appointing herself the authority to declare Biden not a racist, and then cross-examining him, were pretty effective at belittling him. He looked like he was about to cry. Joe is part of that generation of old white liberals who reflexively cringe on anything having to do with race. He's got no defense against this line of attack. And his intended path to the nomination can't afford to risk alienating black voters by punching back. My take from tonight: he's the Jeb! in this race.

    My take from tonight: he’s the Jeb! in this race.

    If you look around the room and can’t figure out who the Jeb! is, then you are the Jeb!

  118. @Lot
    Watched most of the debate this time.

    I like Bernie the most in theory, but he was pretty bad. Shouting every single word the whole time and looking decrepit.

    Joe looks less decrepit and was a lot friendlier. He had some senior moments where he lost his train of thought, but then so does Trump.

    Gillibrand was an aged Barbie with a Minnie Mouse voice. She seemed to be angling to be Bernie’s VP.

    Kamala was really angry at and wagged her finger at Joe and metaphorically white America. At times she looked unhinged, as did Bernie. She had some good moments too, and PredictIt seemed to see her as a huge winner, going from 12 to 20.

    Mayor Pete was earnest, intelligent and likeable. I’d seriously worry that in 2020 he’s elected to show the world America isn’t homophobic.

    The moderators were openly hostile to Biden and Bernie while serving Kamala nothing but gentle softballs. It was pretty blatant.

    Letting Marrianne Williamson on the stage made the whole Dem Party look incompetent. Of course the GOP has recovered from similar kooks on the stage early debates.

    Letting Marrianne Williamson on the stage made the whole Dem Party look incompetent. Of course the GOP has recovered from similar kooks on the stage early debates.

    Such as? What GOP candidates were as kooky as Williamson?

    • Replies: @Lot
    http://ocpoliticsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Bob-Dornan-272x300.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Alan_Keyes.jpg
  119. @Buzz Mohawk
    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate's stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.

    Why do we even bother to vote?

    Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?

    Is it best to make a choice, with no information, or is it best to make no choice at all?

    In the scheme of elections and your one vote out of many, is there any strategy at all?

    This is a great point. When Hillary and Barack were contending for the Democratic nomination, what was one of their big points of difference? Hillary said the national healthcare plan would be mandatory, while Barack said it would be optional. When Barack was elected and his plan was drawn up in congress, it was mandatory. So if that difference determined your choice of candidate in the primaries, you got snookered.

  120. A good read on the subject of busing is a book called “Common Ground” by the late J. Anthony Lukas which detailed the busing controversy in mid-Seventies Boston where black and white children were used as pawns in a social engineering chess game mediated by Federal Judge Arthur Garrity (of leafy Brookline, by the by). Few benefitted from busing, most got screwed over. But, hey, what’s that bit about breaking a few eggs to make an omelette?

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    It is a bit depressing that someone like Garrity can wreak havoc on the lives of countless people and their children in an entirely extra-Constitutional power grab and nothing was done about it, legally or otherwise.
    , @Coemgen
    If the goal of busing was, to finish the job of eradicating white ethnic neighborhoods from certain U.S. cities, then it was very effective. The 60s riots barely made a dent in Boston's Irish and Italian Catholic neighborhoods but busing resulted in near total demographic replacement. Rhetorical question: who benefited?
  121. @Clyde
    Howie Carr called Billy Bulger the corrupt midget. He fathered quite a few children within his marriage. I knew a guy from from Southie who grew up with Billy Bulger. He said Bulger was a pussy when younger. Bulger never drank alcohol which gave him an edge in South Boston Irish politics.

    Clyde:

    My late Jewish boss liked the aphorism that except for alcohol the Irish would rule the world!

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Why do Arabs have oil and the Irish have whiskey?

    The Irish had first choice!

    Ba-dum!
    , @anon
    A bit of a lull after the invention of whiskey.

    14th century
    Caid (precursor to modern Gaelic football).[3]
    Whiskey[4]
    17th century
    Irish road bowling.[5]
    1661: Modern chemistry founded by Robert Boyle with the publication of The Sceptical Chymist.[6]
    1662: Boyle's law discovered by Robert Boyle.[7]
    1680s: Invention of Drinking chocolate - Hans Sloane[8]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Irish_inventions_and_discoveries
  122. @Arclight
    My guess is the only people who really care about busing and want it brought back are woke whites who don't have kids - many black parents are not particularly concerned that their kids spend lots of time around white ones, and even woke white parents are only in favor of it if it means the diverse kids have been carefully curated.

    But it's still probably an effective primary issue in that it reminds black voters of racial exclusion, which also gets childless progressives off as well.

    Big city busing was always pure social engineering justified with pettifogging ass-pulls dreamed up by egomaniacs on the bench and in the public interest bar.

    The discrete complaint in the Brown case was that the plaintiff’s daughter was transported all over the place because the Topeka Board maintained parallel school systems and the plaintiff’s daughter didn’t live near the black schools. That’s not an issue when neighborhood schools are the mode, as they were in Boston. Southern schools could have been desegregated by having open enrollment systems where blacks formed a critical mass of the whole population of students and, where they didn’t, closing tiny negro schools and assigning their students to the regular schools. In both the north and the South, you could have addressed any service deficits by amending state aid formulae, distributing each district’s budget for current expenditure on a per pupil basis, and allowing students to enroll at a cooperative service center if they were eligible for a specialty service not available at their local school.

    • Replies: @Alden
    The plaintiff, Esther Brown was a White Jewish attorney who had no children in the Topeka public schools.

    I thought the black victim child had to walk about 3/4 mile to the nearest black school instead of a couple blocks to the school nearest her home which was a White school.

    1956 the Satanic supremes decree that the 14th amendment requires that all American children attend the public school nearest their home.
    OK, seems reasonable

    1966 the Satanic supremes decree that the 14th amendment requires that all American children get on school buses at 6/45 in the morning to attend schools 10, 20, as much as 40 miles away.

    And conservatives believe that our laws are made by elected legislatures
  123. @Lot
    There was a 29 year old girl in California who dated her 60 year old married boss. That girl was me.

    https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/willie-brown-and-kamala-harris.jpg

    There was a 32 year girl in California whose 63 year old boyfriend-boss found her a job that paid $72,000 a year for 12 days a year of work on the California Medical Assistance Board. That girl was me.

    Looks like she’d been getting into Sammy Sosa’s special cream and clear. Takes more than a bus to get that white.

  124. @R.G. Camara

    S0me time ago the late David Brudnoy interviewed Billy on radio station WBZ. I was pleasantly shocked by his buttoned-down persona – that of an erudite, smooth, low-key academic.
     
    How do you think he survived for so long and never got pinched? He could turn on the charm a million different ways when needed. On St. Patrick's Day to the Southie folk he was the old-school Irish pol with the back-slapping and the roast and the winking jokes, on Brudnoy he was the quiet aristocratic intellectual, etc. He probably convinced every young FBI agent and cop that he never knew a thing about Whitey's crimes or his whereabouts---only the older and more wizened knew better.

    Bill Clinton could do this well, too--change his persona to meet the audience, and yet still appear authentic (at least to the people who voted for him). This was in addition to his ability to make every individual feel like they were the most important person in the room.

    Two slimeballs with literal blood, corruption, and violent crimes on their hands who skated by without nary a conviction--partially based on reading the audience well and playing up to them perfectly. Similar in many ways, though obviously Clinton was the much bigger dog.

    “The key to success is sincerity. If you can fake that you’ve got it made.” ― George Burns.

    Clinton was this quote writ large.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
    A similar meme, it is not who you are but whom you seem to be that counts. Works really well for politicians.
  125. Great fact check on Kamala’s background and discussions how the Asians will likely react to mandatory busing:

    https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2019/06/28/more-than-gotcha-kamalas-busing-blunder/

    • Agree: Kronos
  126. @Lurker

    Black she may look, exotic-Black, but she is not a real Black American
     
    It worked for that other guy.

    Barack ‘Hussein’ Obama had his negative points, but was always more likable in ’07 and ’08 than Kamala ‘Sutra’ Harris is in ’19.

  127. @R.G. Camara

    S0me time ago the late David Brudnoy interviewed Billy on radio station WBZ. I was pleasantly shocked by his buttoned-down persona – that of an erudite, smooth, low-key academic.
     
    How do you think he survived for so long and never got pinched? He could turn on the charm a million different ways when needed. On St. Patrick's Day to the Southie folk he was the old-school Irish pol with the back-slapping and the roast and the winking jokes, on Brudnoy he was the quiet aristocratic intellectual, etc. He probably convinced every young FBI agent and cop that he never knew a thing about Whitey's crimes or his whereabouts---only the older and more wizened knew better.

    Bill Clinton could do this well, too--change his persona to meet the audience, and yet still appear authentic (at least to the people who voted for him). This was in addition to his ability to make every individual feel like they were the most important person in the room.

    Two slimeballs with literal blood, corruption, and violent crimes on their hands who skated by without nary a conviction--partially based on reading the audience well and playing up to them perfectly. Similar in many ways, though obviously Clinton was the much bigger dog.

    R.G. Camara:

    What pleasantly surprised me was that Billy Bulger, a supposed Southie neanderthal, was able to present himself as the quintessential academic!

    As far as I know, Billy was politically clean within the realm of Mass State politics. If you know otherwise, I would like to be so informed. His political demise arose from misplaced family fealty, that is “misplaced” according to a hectoring media.

  128. res says:
    @Anon
    Post here claims Harris lied about the whole thing:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/06/she-lied-kamala-harris-says-she-was-in-second-integrated-class-in-berkeley-but-yearbok-pictures-prove-shes-lying/

    The claim they rebut is:

    She claims she was only the second class to integrate at the Berkeley public schools.

    The rest of that page is consistent with the possibility that she was bused for the two years that page says she was in Berkeley schools.

    Does anyone have more details?

    • Replies: @Alden
    Berkeley schools were always integrated. She was born in 1964. Berkeley school system was bragging in the early 1960s about how integrated it was and how the black kids did so well in school and how the kids all got along.

    By the time she was born the Oakland public schools were known all over the state as violent dangerous and majority black By 1973 when she was in second grade it was worse.

    And Stanford prof Dad couldn’t come up with private school tuition? From things she’s said over the years it sounds as though he didn’t even send basic child support which was common in the 60s and 70s. Were her parents even married?

    Maybe the family lived in Oakland. Probably the school she attended first grade was so dangerous because of the black kids Mom registered her in Berkeley schools using a friends address

    Or maybe she’s lied all along and the family always lived in Berkeley. Living in Oakland would enhance her resume among blacks.
    .
  129. @Mr. Blank
    It seems Democrats are coalescing around the notion that they’re going to reboot all of the policies that cost them dearly 40 or 50 years ago, only this time it won’t hurt them because they’ve got demographics on their side. The only reason it flopped 40 or 50 years ago, the reasoning goes, is because we didn’t do it hard enough, because those damn middle class white people got a vote.

    They might be right about the demographics, but it’s still weird to see a party trying to revisit and resurrect its most conspicuous failures. It’s like a GOP primary 20 years from now if all the candidates were vowing to embroil us in an even bigger, more pointless regional war while creating a much bigger and riskier housing bubble. We’re watching the left-wing equivalent of neocons arguing that the Iraq war was a failure only because not enough people died.

    Learnt nothing, and forgotten nothing.

  130. @Peter Akuleyev
    After all, who doesn’t love busing?

    Have you ever met a hard-core liberal who doesn't love busing? The point of the debates is to win the nomination, not the general. Harris knows that the core audience for this debate is the type of left-of-center, affluent, educated Democratic voter who takes it on faith that "busing is good" and "racism is evil". Those are the people who will deliver her the nomination. Then she can pivot back to being the DA who is harsh on black crime when she's running against Trump. Biden is already campaigning as a centrist to reach the marginal Trump voter, but maybe he should worry more about locking up the nomination first.

    Have you ever met a hard-core liberal who doesn’t love busing?

    I have no idea. I haven’t heard a liberal talk about busing in decades.

  131. @Lot
    There was a 29 year old girl in California who dated her 60 year old married boss. That girl was me.

    https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/willie-brown-and-kamala-harris.jpg

    There was a 32 year girl in California whose 63 year old boyfriend-boss found her a job that paid $72,000 a year for 12 days a year of work on the California Medical Assistance Board. That girl was me.

    Please please, keep this picture hidden until Kamala is the Dem nominee.

  132. @bored identity
    Ann Coulter was the first one to recognize potential strength of Kamala's Wimmin- Blackhindian PoCemon Trifecta.

    The game changer could be earlier than usual California primary.

    Yet, bored identity just can't precog Harris to be in top 3 in Iowa, while Biden, Sanders, and Warren will scoop that same spots in NH.

    This is where the Democratic primary rules come in, unlike Republicans they are going to hand out delegates proportionally, that means you don’t necessarily have to be in top 3 in early states to survive until super Tuesday. Trump would have never won under the Democratic primary rules.

  133. @Alden
    Or 8o old male virgins named Whiskey.

    Whiskey is a gay 80 year old male virgin. Reason he hates women so much is because he’s gay.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    Neither gay, nor virgin, nor anywhere near 80.

    Indeed if I were GAY I would be a protected class and doing well. By law. Instead I work for a living as a working class White man. I just know my class enemies when I see them: foreign weirdo high caste people of color CEOs, bugmen, gays, White women, various people of color grifters.

    Like Heartiste who was banished for his truth telling, I am simply realistic about women. They are what they are, mostly seething feelings and a desire for domination. Ala "rape is sexy " EJ Whatsername.
  134. @Lot
    Kamala is probably lying. She spent ages 12-18 in Canada.

    Before then she lived in mostly white Berkeley. But unless she lived in the black area, she would not be bussed as she was already “desegregating” the school by simply attending the nearest elementary school.

    Now I guess I could be wrong, maybe Kamala’s two PhD holding parents lived in a black area and volunteered to have her bussed to a white school. Seems a tad unlikely.

    Kamala probably thinks that because she rode the bus to school, she was part of a integration program. I wouldn’t assume she understands the busing programs of the 70s and how they fit into her own childhood.

  135. @Buzz Mohawk
    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate's stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.

    Why do we even bother to vote?

    Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?

    Is it best to make a choice, with no information, or is it best to make no choice at all?

    In the scheme of elections and your one vote out of many, is there any strategy at all?

    One of the reasons party affiliation emerged as a ‘thing’ was to economise on the information that voters needed in order to make an informed decision.

    If a person had been pre-selected by a party, then there was a reasonable chance that that person would vote for policies and administrative measures that were aligned with the goals and values of their party.

    Sort of a Pareto distribution outcome: voters could get 80 per cent of the information that they needed by investing only 20 per cent of the time that they would theoretically need in order to know a candidate.

    Political branding, if you like. People essentially vote for parties, rather than people. For example, would anyone have voted for Dubya if he had stood as an independent?

  136. There was a little girl in California who was bussed to school. That little girl was me.

  137. Forced racial school busing (which in the U.S. is spelled with one S, not two)

    Yeah, but that brings to mind Gary Busey, which nobody really wants to do. Maybe follow Marianne Williamson’s example and let the Commonwealth nations lead on this one.

  138. @Arclight
    My guess is the only people who really care about busing and want it brought back are woke whites who don't have kids - many black parents are not particularly concerned that their kids spend lots of time around white ones, and even woke white parents are only in favor of it if it means the diverse kids have been carefully curated.

    But it's still probably an effective primary issue in that it reminds black voters of racial exclusion, which also gets childless progressives off as well.

    It’s not about policy in the present, it’s about impugning the past.

    • Replies: @Arclight
    This is an issue that the right should bring up repeatedly if Harris is the nominee - does she believe that kids today should be bused to create more racially balanced schools, and should the feds have a role in making that happen? Either she says 'no' and it takes the wind of her current talking point, or she says 'yes' and Trump can hammer her on it. He should show up in places like Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly, Pittsburgh and let black voters know that the Dem nominee wants to take away their charter schools and force their kids to be bused elsewhere without their input. Then he can go to the suburbs and let the whites and Asians know that their big mortgages no longer guarantees them access to a top performing public school.

    The constituency for busing (like a lot of lefty ideas) is actually pretty small and many feel they can virtue signal about it without it ever coming back on them. Make it real, like NYC did for all those rich Upper West Side parents, and you'll see that even good progressive whites aren't really willing to re-engineer society if they have to feel the bite themselves.
  139. @Lot
    There was a 29 year old girl in California who dated her 60 year old married boss. That girl was me.

    https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/willie-brown-and-kamala-harris.jpg

    There was a 32 year girl in California whose 63 year old boyfriend-boss found her a job that paid $72,000 a year for 12 days a year of work on the California Medical Assistance Board. That girl was me.

    Lot:

    Regarding that portrait: what is that “black” man (Willie B) doing consorting with that “white” woman (Kamala H)?

    • Replies: @Alden
    Not Kamala another girl friend
  140. • Replies: @Keypusher
    Unfortunately ER showed that Harris told a little truth (she was in one of the first integrated elementary school classes) embedded in a big lie, so she’s safe.

    Busing is a dead issue, so saying something nice about it wont hurt her. As ER said, this was carefully planned, and whoever thought of it is getting high fives at Campaign HQ.
  141. @res
    The claim they rebut is:

    She claims she was only the second class to integrate at the Berkeley public schools.
     
    The rest of that page is consistent with the possibility that she was bused for the two years that page says she was in Berkeley schools.

    Does anyone have more details?

    Berkeley schools were always integrated. She was born in 1964. Berkeley school system was bragging in the early 1960s about how integrated it was and how the black kids did so well in school and how the kids all got along.

    By the time she was born the Oakland public schools were known all over the state as violent dangerous and majority black By 1973 when she was in second grade it was worse.

    And Stanford prof Dad couldn’t come up with private school tuition? From things she’s said over the years it sounds as though he didn’t even send basic child support which was common in the 60s and 70s. Were her parents even married?

    Maybe the family lived in Oakland. Probably the school she attended first grade was so dangerous because of the black kids Mom registered her in Berkeley schools using a friends address

    Or maybe she’s lied all along and the family always lived in Berkeley. Living in Oakland would enhance her resume among blacks.
    .

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Ms. Harris' dad may not have paid child support? Why am I not surprised?
  142. @Dan Hayes
    Lot:

    Regarding that portrait: what is that "black" man (Willie B) doing consorting with that "white" woman (Kamala H)?

    Not Kamala another girl friend

  143. @Desiderius
    It's not about policy in the present, it's about impugning the past.

    This is an issue that the right should bring up repeatedly if Harris is the nominee – does she believe that kids today should be bused to create more racially balanced schools, and should the feds have a role in making that happen? Either she says ‘no’ and it takes the wind of her current talking point, or she says ‘yes’ and Trump can hammer her on it. He should show up in places like Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly, Pittsburgh and let black voters know that the Dem nominee wants to take away their charter schools and force their kids to be bused elsewhere without their input. Then he can go to the suburbs and let the whites and Asians know that their big mortgages no longer guarantees them access to a top performing public school.

    The constituency for busing (like a lot of lefty ideas) is actually pretty small and many feel they can virtue signal about it without it ever coming back on them. Make it real, like NYC did for all those rich Upper West Side parents, and you’ll see that even good progressive whites aren’t really willing to re-engineer society if they have to feel the bite themselves.

  144. @t
    What makes you think Hispanic and Asian parents want their children going to school with blacks?

    Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids. Busing for Whites.

  145. @Art Deco
    Big city busing was always pure social engineering justified with pettifogging ass-pulls dreamed up by egomaniacs on the bench and in the public interest bar.

    The discrete complaint in the Brown case was that the plaintiff's daughter was transported all over the place because the Topeka Board maintained parallel school systems and the plaintiff's daughter didn't live near the black schools. That's not an issue when neighborhood schools are the mode, as they were in Boston. Southern schools could have been desegregated by having open enrollment systems where blacks formed a critical mass of the whole population of students and, where they didn't, closing tiny negro schools and assigning their students to the regular schools. In both the north and the South, you could have addressed any service deficits by amending state aid formulae, distributing each district's budget for current expenditure on a per pupil basis, and allowing students to enroll at a cooperative service center if they were eligible for a specialty service not available at their local school.

    The plaintiff, Esther Brown was a White Jewish attorney who had no children in the Topeka public schools.

    I thought the black victim child had to walk about 3/4 mile to the nearest black school instead of a couple blocks to the school nearest her home which was a White school.

    1956 the Satanic supremes decree that the 14th amendment requires that all American children attend the public school nearest their home.
    OK, seems reasonable

    1966 the Satanic supremes decree that the 14th amendment requires that all American children get on school buses at 6/45 in the morning to attend schools 10, 20, as much as 40 miles away.

    And conservatives believe that our laws are made by elected legislatures

    • Replies: @Keypusher
    “In the Kansas case, Brown v. Board of Education, the plaintiffs are Negro children of elementary school age residing in Topeka.”

    That’s from the Supreme Court opinion. Which came in 1954 and said that school segregation was unconstitutional, not that you got to attend the nearest school. Don’t post easily-checked nonsense.

    Also, I don’t know what 1966 case you’re trying to cite, because it doesn’t exist.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Esther Brown, a White Jewish attorney. Almost. Every. Single. Time. Sigh.
  146. @R.G. Camara
    As a rule, men hate seeing women of their own race with men of a different race, but are usually fine with men of their same race dating women of other races. It's a conqueror's mindset: in the past, when men were with a women of another race, it was usually because the men had conquered that woman's people, and usually slaughtered much of the men folk and enslaved the women.
    There's also probably a lot of genetic reasons for why men feel this that we haven't discovered yet.

    And yes, black men do feel this way, very much so.

    Black women, however, tend to have mixed feelings about black women who date outside their race. On one hand, it's viewed as a betrayal to the race, but on the other, it's a sign the black woman is moving up in the world and is finally beating those Beckys at their own game. Plus, its so frightfully hard for a black woman to attract a non-black male's attention that when one does break through its a mini-miracle. And of course the fact that non-black men are usually more powerful, more intelligent, and more wealthy than black men. Scandal, for example, got a lot of black women's loving attention when the lead black female became the white president's mistress.

    So Kamala's Jewish man marriage might have more of a negative effect on black men than black women.

    If they even know she’s married.

  147. @Anon
    Yeah, I used bussed in myself, thought it was funny, changed it to bused in, and then changed back, because it didn't look right either and would be pronounced boost, I thought.

    I believe the rule is to double a final single consonant if the preceding vowel is a single letter and is short (using English's weird definitions of long and short).

    So for u pronounced uh you double; for u pronounced oo, single.

    Merriam-Webster, however says bused, or alternately bussed.

    Moral of the story: look up the word in the dictionary and take the first option.

    I took a look at a few spelling websites, and holy moly, the rules are complicated. It would be quicker to read Noam Chomsky's The Sound Patterns of English.

    I think bussed meant kiss in Early Modern English

    • Replies: @Anon
    Sorry, I wasn't clear. When I said bussed looked funny, I meant that I recognized that it was a homonym to the past tense of to buss, a verb I am familiar with due to a childhood obsession with dictionaries and an 800 SAT verbal score.

    I wasn't that big a reader so much as a reader of dictionaries, in the raw, page by page.

  148. @t
    What makes you think Hispanic and Asian parents want their children going to school with blacks?

    What happened when Chicago attempted to bus Hispanic kids to schools in the black ghetto

    https://books.google.com/books?id=wu0mx4TULPcC&lpg=PP1&dq=there%20goes%20the%20neighborhood&pg=PA77#v=onepage&q&f=false

  149. @Buzz Mohawk
    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate's stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.

    Why do we even bother to vote?

    Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?

    Is it best to make a choice, with no information, or is it best to make no choice at all?

    In the scheme of elections and your one vote out of many, is there any strategy at all?

    Game theory question…

    There was once a candidate for governor of California who gave us a fascinating guarantee as to his reliability. He was a single issue candidate and his issue was that cigarettes were taxed excessively; he wanted cigarettes taxed at the sales tax just like food or clothing.

    He had the perfect plan: if all smokers voted for him, he might win, because there were 130 candidates that year (Arnold Schwartzenegger ended up winning).

    And why should smokers trust him? Because he was the founder and owner of the Cigarettes for Less chain. He told us, “Unlike other candidates, who can lie to you with impunity, if I’m elected and I betray you, then you can punish me by taking your business to my competitors.”

    I was so impressed that I voted for him even though I’ve never smoked. (He was a solid fiscal conservative otherwise too, but I wouldn’t of even heard of him if not for the smoking angle.)

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    Cool.

    Unfortunately cigarette smokers these days--unlike when i was a kid and all the men had been given smokes during the War--aren't exactly the most rational or disciplined bunch.
  150. @Anon
    Yeah, I used bussed in myself, thought it was funny, changed it to bused in, and then changed back, because it didn't look right either and would be pronounced boost, I thought.

    I believe the rule is to double a final single consonant if the preceding vowel is a single letter and is short (using English's weird definitions of long and short).

    So for u pronounced uh you double; for u pronounced oo, single.

    Merriam-Webster, however says bused, or alternately bussed.

    Moral of the story: look up the word in the dictionary and take the first option.

    I took a look at a few spelling websites, and holy moly, the rules are complicated. It would be quicker to read Noam Chomsky's The Sound Patterns of English.

    Learn Spanish.

    • Replies: @Sextus Empiricus
    Because you're gonna wanna beg your caretakers at the old folks home to take that big heavy pillow off your face in a language they can understand - tell them you have money!

    ¡Tengo dinero!
  151. Will everyone here consent to be governed by Hindu-Jamaican POTUS Kamala Harris and her Attorney General Preet Bharrara in 2021?

  152. My school went through court ordered busing. The wholly typical result was that the terrified administration stopped enforcing any discipline and the school turned into violence ridden hell hole.

    Although I was raised by two committed liberals, the experience turned me into a conservative, or more accurately a passionate anti-liberal. I wish the the American educational system had one throat so I could slash it open and watch it die in front in of me.

    I haven’t forgotten and I haven’t forgiven.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
    Liberals conveniently ignore the Law of Unintended Consequences.
    , @anonymous
    @Doc

    What about your parents? I hope you disowned them.
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Discipline be racist.
  153. @Peter Akuleyev
    After all, who doesn’t love busing?

    Have you ever met a hard-core liberal who doesn't love busing? The point of the debates is to win the nomination, not the general. Harris knows that the core audience for this debate is the type of left-of-center, affluent, educated Democratic voter who takes it on faith that "busing is good" and "racism is evil". Those are the people who will deliver her the nomination. Then she can pivot back to being the DA who is harsh on black crime when she's running against Trump. Biden is already campaigning as a centrist to reach the marginal Trump voter, but maybe he should worry more about locking up the nomination first.

    Remember the media kept telling us that Trump was out of step with “real America” when it was they who were. The same is probably true of busing. Nobody will openly say it sucked like they won’t openly say what they think about having to send their kids to predominantly black schools.

    You don’t have to be a “racist” to be against it. You can simply hate it because of it’s high cost on you and your children in terms of time and money.

  154. @Dan Hayes
    Clyde:

    My late Jewish boss liked the aphorism that except for alcohol the Irish would rule the world!

    Why do Arabs have oil and the Irish have whiskey?

    The Irish had first choice!

    Ba-dum!

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
  155. You’d think Creepy Joe would be into bussing kids.
    ——
    The failure of forced busing, like the guilt of the Central Park Five, used to be an understood thing. They’re using their new informational priority to go back over every battle and change the result like true Marxists.

  156. @Marty T
    The thing is, Biden doesn't have the courage or the energy to fight the radical tide of his party. It's sad to watch.

    What appeal to sanity can he make now that he played White Butler for Barack?

  157. @Diversity is Great!

    Coast Guard to Reimburse Moms on Duty to Ship Breast Milk

    25 Jun 2019

    Military.com | By Patricia Kime

    The U.S. Coast Guard announced Tuesday it will implement a program to pay shipping costs for service members who send breast milk to their babies when they are underway or on other official travel.

    The reimbursement program, funded by Coast Guard Mutual Assistance, will pay up to $750 a year per household for shipping. It will be available to all active-duty personnel, Public Health Services officers and Navy chaplains detailed to the Coast Guard, reserve members on active duty status, spouses on business travel and Coast Guard civilian employee
     

    Earlier this year, Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Karl Schultz promised numerous changes in the coming year designed to keep women in the service, attract female recruits and increase diversity.

    Women constitute nearly 15 percent of the Coast Guard, but they tend to leave at rates higher than men after about five years – usually during the time when they start having families.

    Groundbreaking changes in the past few months designed to strike a work-life balance for members include implementing a program that allows reserve members to backfill active-duty positions when personnel are on maternity, convalescent or caregiver leave.

    The Coast Guard also has eliminated gender-specific pronouns from promotion packages and professional evaluations. And it is exploring changes to physical standards, which are based on body mass and require a tape measurement of all personnel twice a year.

    Schultz has said the standards disproportionately affect women and cause undue stress on service members.
     
    :)

    Women constitute nearly 15 percent of the Coast Guard, but they tend to leave at rates higher than men after about five years – usually during the time when they start having families.

    I’m such a racistsexistislamohomophobenativistnazi i actually think this is a good thing!

    I think–and have seen it myself–that kids really enjoy and thrive from snuggling up to their mom for a good suck on her breast. Mom’s–with of course some uncomfortable moments–seem to reall like it too.

    Yes, i said it. It’s good for moms to be home nursing their babies. Go ahead and send me to the camps.

  158. @Hail

    Kamala is probably lying
     
    All an elaborate way to deliver a dog-whistle-reminder that she is 'Black.' Political salivation over the South Carolina primary coming in seven months.

    (Asterisk: Kamala has no US slave ancestry and is half Hindu. Black she may look, exotic-Black, but she is not a real Black American.)

    What percent of the US black population is part or whole New Black versus 100% Heritage Black?

    In MN and the whole NE, the New share must be 40% or more by now.

    Somalis are taking over airport jobs that used to be Heritage Black almost everywhere in the USA.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Lot:

    In NYC, Brooklyn is virtually all New Black. Only Harlem remains Heritage Black although even there white gentrification is making some inroads. Many Heritage Blacks have moved back South.
    , @AnotherDad

    Somalis are taking over airport jobs that used to be Heritage Black almost everywhere in the USA.
     
    Yeah, it's crazy.

    It used to be just places that you'd expect to see them MSP, SEA. The last few years DEN has been my third home, and i'm seeing these Somali faces and thinking--what the heck! since when are there a bunch of Somalis in Denver? I don't think there are a bunch, but apparently that doesn't matter--they are entitled to the aiport jobs. (Can't think of a better choice to staff the aviation industry than black muslims.)

    Apparently even for low-skill service work, we're not to be allowed to look at familiar American black faces. "Black" is another job that supposedly Americans won't do.
    , @Hail

    What percent of the US black population is part or whole New Black versus 100% Heritage Black?
     
    Any good ideas out there on methods for estimating this?

    With perfect information, I'd wonder the answer to the following question, a refined version of yours, Lot:

    Q. "As of 1860, what percentage of [person]'s total ancestry was (a) an enslaved person in any state of the USA, (b) a former slave or descendant of former slaves in the USA (i.e., Free Blacks), (c) Subsaharan-ancestry persons not resident in the USA in 1860 (i.e., later Black immigrants), (d) Other (i.e., non-Black ancestry)."

    If one could find all U.S.-resident Blacks' aggregate, we could see what (a)+(b) vs. (c) looks. Many would be surprised, I think, at just how much (c) there would turn out to be. (Bad news for affirmative-action pushers.)

    ____________

    In a thread several days ago, I proposed that Farrakhan (b.1933) is "not a homegrown African," in that his parents were Caribbean immigrants. They arrived in the Marcus Garvey period (sources seem to only say "1920s").

    A commenter replied that of course Farrakhan is American because he was born here, to which I said the point is that Farrakhan never was, culturally, an 'African-American' (what Lot renders here as "Heritage Black") and indeed Farrakhan's mother raised him in Caribbean enclaves in New York and Roxbury, Mass. He is of recent foreign origin compared to the typical Southern Black, as the latter is of largely 18th-century slave ancestry. (It may not be a surprise that Farrakhan gravitated towards a decidedly foreign, then-recently-concocted religion, the Nation of Islam.)

    , @Art Deco
    About 15% of the black population list themselves as West Indian or African. In Minnesota, its 38%, with a subset of 12% listing themselves as Somali.
  159. @International Jew

    Game theory question...
     
    There was once a candidate for governor of California who gave us a fascinating guarantee as to his reliability. He was a single issue candidate and his issue was that cigarettes were taxed excessively; he wanted cigarettes taxed at the sales tax just like food or clothing.

    He had the perfect plan: if all smokers voted for him, he might win, because there were 130 candidates that year (Arnold Schwartzenegger ended up winning).

    And why should smokers trust him? Because he was the founder and owner of the Cigarettes for Less chain. He told us, "Unlike other candidates, who can lie to you with impunity, if I'm elected and I betray you, then you can punish me by taking your business to my competitors."

    I was so impressed that I voted for him even though I've never smoked. (He was a solid fiscal conservative otherwise too, but I wouldn't of even heard of him if not for the smoking angle.)

    Cool.

    Unfortunately cigarette smokers these days–unlike when i was a kid and all the men had been given smokes during the War–aren’t exactly the most rational or disciplined bunch.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Yeah, for all I knew he got most of his votes from nonsmoking fiscal conservatives like me.
  160. @Lot
    What percent of the US black population is part or whole New Black versus 100% Heritage Black?

    In MN and the whole NE, the New share must be 40% or more by now.

    Somalis are taking over airport jobs that used to be Heritage Black almost everywhere in the USA.

    Lot:

    In NYC, Brooklyn is virtually all New Black. Only Harlem remains Heritage Black although even there white gentrification is making some inroads. Many Heritage Blacks have moved back South.

  161. @War for Blair Mountain
    Just a gentle reminder:

    Eisenhauer ordered the Native Born White American Working Class Males of the 101 Airborne to force Negro Males on teenage Southern White Females in the High Schools of the American South....

    That is because White men were largely irrelevant due to Chrome zDome.

    One more data point prolonged peace is bad for Western people’s. Too much peace White men are threat not asset to ruling class.

    FOR dated not desegregat e schools in WWII. Would have had massive mutiny.

  162. @Lot
    What percent of the US black population is part or whole New Black versus 100% Heritage Black?

    In MN and the whole NE, the New share must be 40% or more by now.

    Somalis are taking over airport jobs that used to be Heritage Black almost everywhere in the USA.

    Somalis are taking over airport jobs that used to be Heritage Black almost everywhere in the USA.

    Yeah, it’s crazy.

    It used to be just places that you’d expect to see them MSP, SEA. The last few years DEN has been my third home, and i’m seeing these Somali faces and thinking–what the heck! since when are there a bunch of Somalis in Denver? I don’t think there are a bunch, but apparently that doesn’t matter–they are entitled to the aiport jobs. (Can’t think of a better choice to staff the aviation industry than black muslims.)

    Apparently even for low-skill service work, we’re not to be allowed to look at familiar American black faces. “Black” is another job that supposedly Americans won’t do.

  163. I’m a Democrat, but I don’t really like Harris nor Biden.

    I am old enough to remember the effects the civil rights and anti-war movements had.

    On one hand, the Vietnam war ended and civil rights legislation was passed.

    On the other hand, the GOP took control of the White House for 20 of the next 24 years. The only exceptions were a southern Democrat right after Watergate and another southern Democrat when Bush’ popularity plummeted.

    Northern Democrats have been elected President three times in my lifetime— JFK in 1960, Obama in 2008 and 2012.

    Busing was part of the reason.

    As much as I dislike Bankster Biden, he is the closest thing to the new wave southern Democrats of the 70s; people like Carter, Clinton and Gore. With the goodwill he gets from being Obama’s VP he may have the chance to carry the black vote and still appeal to white working people.

    If Harris keeps pounding the busing issue, what effect will it have?

    A. Deny Biden the nomination
    B. Keep Harris off the VP spot. Remember, pundits were talking up a Biden-Harris ticket. If Biden gets the nomination, he may go with Warren or Booker instead, both of whom I prefer to Harris
    C. Re-election of Trump.
    D. All of the above

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    Harris is the choice of Silicon Valley. To be precise Sundar Pinchai, Saytella Nardella, Susan Wojihicki, Page, Brin, Bezos, and Zuck. Foreigners, box wine aunts, bug men.

    With tons of money and control of the media. Both social and legacy.

    They bet they can push over the line for the nom and General. They have big data and all the best minds of India and China on their side. OK cheapest minds.The

    And their bet is single White women feelz + Blacks + Hispanics = victory.

    They may be right.
    , @Art Deco
    Biden grew up in (1) Scranton / Wilkes-Barre and (2) that section of Delaware which is suburban to Philadelphia. No clue how he's a 'new wave Southern Democrat'. Delaware's marquee politicians tend to be people who grew up in greater Philadelphia and made their career there or people who grew up out of state and landed a job at duPont or some law firm in Wilmington. Not many exceptions.
  164. @King Baeksu
    White man here. I was bused when I was nine or ten years old, in Denver, Colorado.

    To be honest, it was often terrifying, and I didn't learn much.

    However, it made my liberal, self-hating boomer parents feel much better, and that's what counts.

    However, it made my liberal, self-hating boomer parents feel much better, and that’s what counts.

    Did you tell them how you felt? Tell them that they were souless cretins?

    (BTW–not to speak for your experience which only you know–but they may well have hated it, but not felt they had any power to do anything about it and been trying to put the best face on it.)

  165. @Charon
    Hence, the rise of identity politics. Might as well judge them by what they look like.

    "She's a woman/mother/lesbian/POC like me, so I just know she understands my problems."

    Hence, the rise of identity politics. Might as well judge them by what they look like.

    “She’s a woman/mother/lesbian/POC like me, so I just know she understands my problems.”

    So if you have no reliable data, trust the stereotype. That’s what I do, all day, everyday.

  166. @Clyde

    Boston, of course, had the famous case where a lace-curtain Irish Judge Garrity all on his own forced the city into a violent, media-glorified warzone of busing, complete with “evil” whites and “noble” blacks “just tryin’ to get educamated”
     
    F'ing Judge Garrity lived in Wellesley, one of the wealthiest Boston suburbs. Far, far away from any busing strife. Wellesley College is where Hillary went to college. Situated in Wellesley of course.

    The federal judge who tossed most of the Yonkers City Council in jail in 1985 for noncompliance (because they hadn’t situated public housing projects where the judge thought they should be sited) lived in Pound Ridge, NY, which has no public housing. Ordinarily, this sort of ad hominem reasoning might be invalid, except that the legal reasoning behind the notion that public housing or school demographics had to be in accordance with the judges’ preferences had little to do with any constitutional provision, their pretensions notwithstanding. In Boston, you had professional-class types in the school apparat and the legal system preventing vigorous discipline and then you had professional class types in the legal profession forcing on working class whites student populations which contained a critical mass of people who needed…vigorous discipline, and, in many cases, to be sequestered. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the professionals were completely free of the costs of their own prescriptions (unless they actually worked in these schools).

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    You speak with the assured authority of a guvmint bureaucrat who can't be fired. Were you the director of cotton candy quality control at the state fair? Did you inherit your pomposity from your parents, or did you develop that on your own? Who is Jack Chiclets? Please send your reply to my Eureka p.o. box.
    , @Desiderius
    So the Roundheads f*cking with the Irish like they have for 400 years?

    Dog bites man.
  167. @Paleo Liberal
    I’m a Democrat, but I don’t really like Harris nor Biden.

    I am old enough to remember the effects the civil rights and anti-war movements had.

    On one hand, the Vietnam war ended and civil rights legislation was passed.

    On the other hand, the GOP took control of the White House for 20 of the next 24 years. The only exceptions were a southern Democrat right after Watergate and another southern Democrat when Bush’ popularity plummeted.

    Northern Democrats have been elected President three times in my lifetime— JFK in 1960, Obama in 2008 and 2012.

    Busing was part of the reason.

    As much as I dislike Bankster Biden, he is the closest thing to the new wave southern Democrats of the 70s; people like Carter, Clinton and Gore. With the goodwill he gets from being Obama’s VP he may have the chance to carry the black vote and still appeal to white working people.

    If Harris keeps pounding the busing issue, what effect will it have?

    A. Deny Biden the nomination
    B. Keep Harris off the VP spot. Remember, pundits were talking up a Biden-Harris ticket. If Biden gets the nomination, he may go with Warren or Booker instead, both of whom I prefer to Harris
    C. Re-election of Trump.
    D. All of the above

    Harris is the choice of Silicon Valley. To be precise Sundar Pinchai, Saytella Nardella, Susan Wojihicki, Page, Brin, Bezos, and Zuck. Foreigners, box wine aunts, bug men.

    With tons of money and control of the media. Both social and legacy.

    They bet they can push over the line for the nom and General. They have big data and all the best minds of India and China on their side. OK cheapest minds.The

    And their bet is single White women feelz + Blacks + Hispanics = victory.

    They may be right.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    Brin has been known to advance the career of women who slept with him. Not saying that Kamala Harris has ever done such a thing.

    Look up Google Glass and Amanda Rosenberg
    , @BB753
    Black men and Hispanic men won't vote for her. For the former, she's not black enough and a woman, for the latter because she's blackish and a woman. Only stupid white men will vote for a woman to lead them.
    , @Justvisiting
    If Silicon Valley can figure out a way to count the votes Harris wins the primary and the general election.

    That is why Trump needs to pursue anti-trust action against the Silicon Valley giants now--play to win or risk losing.
  168. @R.G. Camara
    "Acid, Amnesty, and Abortion" were a huge loser for the D's in the 1970s, despite their base screaming for it. Nixon and Reagan smartly went for the Silent Majority folks.

    Will "Busing, Baby-killing, Boob Jobs*, and Borderlessness" be the same this time around?

    *For trannies. I couldn't think of a B-word for trannies.

    Bussy is the word you are looking for.

  169. @Alden
    The plaintiff, Esther Brown was a White Jewish attorney who had no children in the Topeka public schools.

    I thought the black victim child had to walk about 3/4 mile to the nearest black school instead of a couple blocks to the school nearest her home which was a White school.

    1956 the Satanic supremes decree that the 14th amendment requires that all American children attend the public school nearest their home.
    OK, seems reasonable

    1966 the Satanic supremes decree that the 14th amendment requires that all American children get on school buses at 6/45 in the morning to attend schools 10, 20, as much as 40 miles away.

    And conservatives believe that our laws are made by elected legislatures

    “In the Kansas case, Brown v. Board of Education, the plaintiffs are Negro children of elementary school age residing in Topeka.”

    That’s from the Supreme Court opinion. Which came in 1954 and said that school segregation was unconstitutional, not that you got to attend the nearest school. Don’t post easily-checked nonsense.

    Also, I don’t know what 1966 case you’re trying to cite, because it doesn’t exist.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    Skool zoning is institutional segregation.

    Think about it.

  170. @Prester John
    A good read on the subject of busing is a book called "Common Ground" by the late J. Anthony Lukas which detailed the busing controversy in mid-Seventies Boston where black and white children were used as pawns in a social engineering chess game mediated by Federal Judge Arthur Garrity (of leafy Brookline, by the by). Few benefitted from busing, most got screwed over. But, hey, what's that bit about breaking a few eggs to make an omelette?

    It is a bit depressing that someone like Garrity can wreak havoc on the lives of countless people and their children in an entirely extra-Constitutional power grab and nothing was done about it, legally or otherwise.

  171. @Paleo Liberal
    I’m a Democrat, but I don’t really like Harris nor Biden.

    I am old enough to remember the effects the civil rights and anti-war movements had.

    On one hand, the Vietnam war ended and civil rights legislation was passed.

    On the other hand, the GOP took control of the White House for 20 of the next 24 years. The only exceptions were a southern Democrat right after Watergate and another southern Democrat when Bush’ popularity plummeted.

    Northern Democrats have been elected President three times in my lifetime— JFK in 1960, Obama in 2008 and 2012.

    Busing was part of the reason.

    As much as I dislike Bankster Biden, he is the closest thing to the new wave southern Democrats of the 70s; people like Carter, Clinton and Gore. With the goodwill he gets from being Obama’s VP he may have the chance to carry the black vote and still appeal to white working people.

    If Harris keeps pounding the busing issue, what effect will it have?

    A. Deny Biden the nomination
    B. Keep Harris off the VP spot. Remember, pundits were talking up a Biden-Harris ticket. If Biden gets the nomination, he may go with Warren or Booker instead, both of whom I prefer to Harris
    C. Re-election of Trump.
    D. All of the above

    Biden grew up in (1) Scranton / Wilkes-Barre and (2) that section of Delaware which is suburban to Philadelphia. No clue how he’s a ‘new wave Southern Democrat’. Delaware’s marquee politicians tend to be people who grew up in greater Philadelphia and made their career there or people who grew up out of state and landed a job at duPont or some law firm in Wilmington. Not many exceptions.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    I was very unclear. My apologies.

    I don’t mean that Biden is geographically a new wave southern Democrat. That species is, I am very sad to say, almost extinct.

    I meant that (a) ideologically and (b) in his ability to reach both black and white working class voters and (c) his age and generation he is the closest thing we have to the New Wave Southern Democrats.

    Even if his policies tend to favor the rich.
  172. @Diversity is Great!

    Coast Guard to Reimburse Moms on Duty to Ship Breast Milk

    25 Jun 2019

    Military.com | By Patricia Kime

    The U.S. Coast Guard announced Tuesday it will implement a program to pay shipping costs for service members who send breast milk to their babies when they are underway or on other official travel.

    The reimbursement program, funded by Coast Guard Mutual Assistance, will pay up to $750 a year per household for shipping. It will be available to all active-duty personnel, Public Health Services officers and Navy chaplains detailed to the Coast Guard, reserve members on active duty status, spouses on business travel and Coast Guard civilian employee
     

    Earlier this year, Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Karl Schultz promised numerous changes in the coming year designed to keep women in the service, attract female recruits and increase diversity.

    Women constitute nearly 15 percent of the Coast Guard, but they tend to leave at rates higher than men after about five years – usually during the time when they start having families.

    Groundbreaking changes in the past few months designed to strike a work-life balance for members include implementing a program that allows reserve members to backfill active-duty positions when personnel are on maternity, convalescent or caregiver leave.

    The Coast Guard also has eliminated gender-specific pronouns from promotion packages and professional evaluations. And it is exploring changes to physical standards, which are based on body mass and require a tape measurement of all personnel twice a year.

    Schultz has said the standards disproportionately affect women and cause undue stress on service members.
     
    :)

    The U.S. Coast Guard seems to be the military service slowest to adapt to Woke. Probably because it has been a bastion for white males where the other services, certainly the Army and Navy, were more welcoming to non-whites due to the postwar integration executive order and the number of personnel they require. The USCG has always been a small and select service. Their personnel number will remain small because of budget limitations, but now you’ll be able to find Somalis and white men in dresses at the SAR stations.

  173. @countenance
    EdReal's post about it got an Instalanche.

    https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2019/06/28/more-than-gotcha-kamalas-busing-blunder/

    Unfortunately ER showed that Harris told a little truth (she was in one of the first integrated elementary school classes) embedded in a big lie, so she’s safe.

    Busing is a dead issue, so saying something nice about it wont hurt her. As ER said, this was carefully planned, and whoever thought of it is getting high fives at Campaign HQ.

    • Replies: @education realist
    She most certainly did not tell a "little truth". She flatly lied. She's "safe" because the media will ignor eher lie, not because she calculated a correct degree of untruth.

    And you clearly didn't understand my piece (assuming you read it), because the whole point of my argument was not "she lied" but "she is saying that the federal government must step in to assure integration", thus clearly making busing anything but a dead issue.
  174. OT: Or maybe not. Million dollar fraud at Fullerton College.

    “A 21-count indictment returned by a federal grand jury on June 5 charges the defendants with defrauding the United States Department of Education by falsely claiming the “students” would attend Fullerton College and other schools. Some of the applications for student aid were filed under the names of stolen identities and at least two were filed on behalf of inmates in California state prisons.

    The three defendants arrested this morning are:

    Sparkle Shorale Nelson, 32, of Highland;
    Shykeena Monique Johnson, 31, a.k.a. “Shy,” of Apple Valley; and
    Jerrika Eldrena Lashay Johnson, 37, a.k.a. “Muffin,” “Big Sis,” and “Jerrika Carter,” of Apple Valley.”

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/three-inland-empire-women-arrested-charges-fraudulently-obtaining-student-aid-students

  175. @Art Deco
    The federal judge who tossed most of the Yonkers City Council in jail in 1985 for noncompliance (because they hadn't situated public housing projects where the judge thought they should be sited) lived in Pound Ridge, NY, which has no public housing. Ordinarily, this sort of ad hominem reasoning might be invalid, except that the legal reasoning behind the notion that public housing or school demographics had to be in accordance with the judges' preferences had little to do with any constitutional provision, their pretensions notwithstanding. In Boston, you had professional-class types in the school apparat and the legal system preventing vigorous discipline and then you had professional class types in the legal profession forcing on working class whites student populations which contained a critical mass of people who needed...vigorous discipline, and, in many cases, to be sequestered. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the professionals were completely free of the costs of their own prescriptions (unless they actually worked in these schools).

    You speak with the assured authority of a guvmint bureaucrat who can’t be fired. Were you the director of cotton candy quality control at the state fair? Did you inherit your pomposity from your parents, or did you develop that on your own? Who is Jack Chiclets? Please send your reply to my Eureka p.o. box.

  176. @Mr. Anon

    Letting Marrianne Williamson on the stage made the whole Dem Party look incompetent. Of course the GOP has recovered from similar kooks on the stage early debates.
     
    Such as? What GOP candidates were as kooky as Williamson?

  177. Tulsi is still my fav Brown Dem Gal. If all she does right is keep us out of another sand war, that’s enough for me. Plus if I close my eyes and imagine which one of the Lefty Chicks’ voice I could bear for the next four years, Tulsi still comes out on top (pause here for gratuitous “know what I mean??” eyebrow raise).

  178. @Lot
    There was a 29 year old girl in California who dated her 60 year old married boss. That girl was me.

    https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/willie-brown-and-kamala-harris.jpg

    There was a 32 year girl in California whose 63 year old boyfriend-boss found her a job that paid $72,000 a year for 12 days a year of work on the California Medical Assistance Board. That girl was me.

    Using whitening cream there? Kams looks 100% in. Into Willie.

  179. @Buzz Mohawk
    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate's stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.

    Why do we even bother to vote?

    Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?

    Is it best to make a choice, with no information, or is it best to make no choice at all?

    In the scheme of elections and your one vote out of many, is there any strategy at all?

    “Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?”

    you vote republican.

    the republican may or may not deliver.

    the democrat is always a lying, anti-American, anti-white $%*@ who wants to eliminate you.

    you don’t need any additional information to know that. you can count on that 100% of the time. no matter what they say, that is what they will do.

    roll the dice, or get HIV. your choice. easy choice.

    most of the time, voting is actually very easy. the only time voting requires any thought is during the republican primary. that’s the only time you have think about what each dice roll might bring.

  180. @Art Deco
    Biden grew up in (1) Scranton / Wilkes-Barre and (2) that section of Delaware which is suburban to Philadelphia. No clue how he's a 'new wave Southern Democrat'. Delaware's marquee politicians tend to be people who grew up in greater Philadelphia and made their career there or people who grew up out of state and landed a job at duPont or some law firm in Wilmington. Not many exceptions.

    I was very unclear. My apologies.

    I don’t mean that Biden is geographically a new wave southern Democrat. That species is, I am very sad to say, almost extinct.

    I meant that (a) ideologically and (b) in his ability to reach both black and white working class voters and (c) his age and generation he is the closest thing we have to the New Wave Southern Democrats.

    Even if his policies tend to favor the rich.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Biden can pass for normal.

    When the Ds are the normal alternative (to, say, lighting a trillion dollars on fire) they win.

    Right now the Blue Cheka is desperate to paint Williamson as nuts because she actually said some normal things herself. Making America the best place in the world to raise a child foremost among them.

  181. The Democrat forced-busing fanatics had to wait for Bobbi Fiedler and Roberta Weintraub to die, which they did respectively in March and January of this year (2019).

    Of course there aren’t many white kids left in L.A. to bus. Maybe they can put the Chinese kids on buses for a year or two, until they all mysteriously disappear.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Born Roberta Frances Horowitz


    Almost every single time.
  182. Biden should say that he opposed busing because all those school busses contributed to global warming, and he was far ahead of his time.

  183. @Whiskey
    Harris is the choice of Silicon Valley. To be precise Sundar Pinchai, Saytella Nardella, Susan Wojihicki, Page, Brin, Bezos, and Zuck. Foreigners, box wine aunts, bug men.

    With tons of money and control of the media. Both social and legacy.

    They bet they can push over the line for the nom and General. They have big data and all the best minds of India and China on their side. OK cheapest minds.The

    And their bet is single White women feelz + Blacks + Hispanics = victory.

    They may be right.

    Brin has been known to advance the career of women who slept with him. Not saying that Kamala Harris has ever done such a thing.

    Look up Google Glass and Amanda Rosenberg

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    Thanks did not know that.
  184. anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara
    This is another indication that Camp of the Saints is coming true; social engineering by forcing people together against their will via government-mandate--and children, to boot.

    That busing would come back in style is unsurprising, given how cycles run and that (as Steve mentioned) the younger Left didn't live through that history and thinks its always Year Zero. But it could also be the old commies trying it again.

    Busing was one of those one-step-beyond things that drove people to Nixon and Reagan country. It was all fine to desegregate those evil Southerners with their laws down there, but now the Northern Lefties would be desegregated even if the law wasn't preventing blacks from doing things (for those law nerds out there, its the famous de jure versus de facto situation) . Watching their neighborhood schools made violent ignorant heckholes by blacks and puerto ricans drove many Northern Lefties into the suburbs and Catholic schools and supporting more"moderate" social policies.

    Boston, of course, had the famous case where a lace-curtain Irish Judge Garrity all on his own forced the city into a violent, media-glorified warzone of busing, complete with "evil" whites and "noble" blacks "just tryin' to get educamated". After a few too many Globe employees and Democrats at City Hall were mugged/beaten by the blacks bussed in, there was a downgrade in support. Also, the whites were lucky to have in their corner the corrupt, violent, but useful Bulger Brothers in power then, Billy in the State House and Whitey in his gang allied with the FBI. With them whites were able to short-circuit some of the policies implemented in more unfortunate places.

    Southie did Boston a big favor with all the fuss about busing. Boston gained a notorious racist reputation which staved off black migration for decades.

  185. @anonymous
    Kamala Harris is also a phony because she identifies as black, while her absent pale skinned mulatto Jamaican father (a distinguished economist) had little to do with most of her upbringing. Her Tamil Brahmin brought her up for six years in Montreal, and her Tamil grandmother, the wife of a senior Indian diplomat, provided a lot of support by spending part of the year with the girls.

    A lot like Obama, who was mostly raised by white Kansan grandparents and went to a very white prep school but went into Chicago local politics, Kamala Harris made a deliberate choice to identify as black by choosing to go to an HBCU and then Hastings Law. Her sister, Maya Harris, went to Berkeley and Stanford.

    Kamala Harris is on strained terms with her father. Recently, he published an annoyed statement scolding her for painting all Jamaicans as weed-smoking Rastafarians.

    https://www.jamaicaglobalonline.com/donald-harris-slams-his-daughter-senator-kamala-harris-for-fraudulently-stereotyping-jamaicans-and-accusing-her-of-playing-identity-politics/

    “Kamala Harris is on strained terms with her father. Recently, he published an annoyed statement scolding her for painting all Jamaicans as weed-smoking Rastafarians.”

    Did she, now?

    Well, if her father (presumably) objected to her use of the word “all”, then perhaps he could enlighten the rest of us as to what the true percentage might be (ie: “some”, “many”, “most”, “nearly all”, etc.)?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    '...Well, if her father (presumably) objected to her use of the word “all”, then perhaps he could enlighten the rest of us as to what the true percentage might be (ie: “some”, “many”, “most”, “nearly all”, etc.)?'

    Presumably he feels it only applies to the black ones, of course. Kamala's father is obviously part of that quadroon elite you find on any Caribbean island.

    Poor Kamala kind of lost out. With a non-black mother, and a quarter-black father, she could have come out looking like Meghan Markle -- not obviously black at all. The genetics kind of turn into a lottery at that point.

    ...but she didn't. Poor little critter came out looking distinctly black -- and you can bet mother's family didn't like that.

    Hence that warped, evil soul.

  186. @Paleo Liberal
    Brin has been known to advance the career of women who slept with him. Not saying that Kamala Harris has ever done such a thing.

    Look up Google Glass and Amanda Rosenberg

    Thanks did not know that.

  187. @Buzz Mohawk
    School bussing was a disaster. It was cruel to children, but even worse, it gave us creepy, brown female prosecutors like Kamala Harris. She may very well be president, in 2020 or someday, due to Pokemon points.

    We called it “forced busing” in Austin TX. A Federal judge by the name of Jack Roberts decided it was his duty to upset the peace and harmony of what was then a sleepy college town in the 1970s. He probably did not have much choice being urged on by the ACLU lawyers and black activists just then starting to feel their oats. It did not matter that the black schools were doing quite well with out whitey being in the classroom. The black kids rode long distances to white schools in the buses while many white kids drove cars or were driven by their parents. All this caused the exodus of white families to the nearest suburbs while the black schools slowly deteriorated to substandard levels. Yes, busing has gone done the memory hole in Austin but the bitterness still lingers in the hearts of those affected by this abuse of Federal power. The city of Austin has changed dramatically since the ’70s. The population has exploded and it is now a high tech center rivaling Silicon Valley. An extremely liberal mayor and city council do what liberal do gooders always do, spend the taxpayers money on do-gooder projects as if it were their own. Meanwhile there is a multitude of crises–housing, homelessness and highways that resemble parking lots. Isn’t progress grand?

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    MATA. Make Austin Texas Again.
  188. @Whiskey
    Harris is the choice of Silicon Valley. To be precise Sundar Pinchai, Saytella Nardella, Susan Wojihicki, Page, Brin, Bezos, and Zuck. Foreigners, box wine aunts, bug men.

    With tons of money and control of the media. Both social and legacy.

    They bet they can push over the line for the nom and General. They have big data and all the best minds of India and China on their side. OK cheapest minds.The

    And their bet is single White women feelz + Blacks + Hispanics = victory.

    They may be right.

    Black men and Hispanic men won’t vote for her. For the former, she’s not black enough and a woman, for the latter because she’s blackish and a woman. Only stupid white men will vote for a woman to lead them.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    Possibly. But the big shots at Silicon Valley places think their big data will make the difference. They really believe they can push people to vote for her in both elections (primary, general).

    The plus for them: they have unlimited money, unlimited computing power, above average (but not the smartest) data analysts from Chennai, Bangalore, and Shenzen. The minus for them: said analysts are foreign weirdos, mostly semi-aristocrats, with zero knowledge or interest in the people of the United States.

    I think Harris is a repellent figure for almost all White men who are not gay. A few pozzed non gay Whites would vote for her, most would not. White men still like and admire men of action. That's Trump more than the power bottoms, washed up old fart pols, angry lesbians, and weirdos of the Democratic party.

    I think Silicon Valley believes its own BS about the Russians hacking the campaign in 2016 and figure they can do one better. We'll see I suppose.
  189. @Doc Dynamo
    My school went through court ordered busing. The wholly typical result was that the terrified administration stopped enforcing any discipline and the school turned into violence ridden hell hole.

    Although I was raised by two committed liberals, the experience turned me into a conservative, or more accurately a passionate anti-liberal. I wish the the American educational system had one throat so I could slash it open and watch it die in front in of me.

    I haven't forgotten and I haven't forgiven.

    Liberals conveniently ignore the Law of Unintended Consequences.

  190. anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara
    She's trying to come off like an alpha-in control, but it doesn't work for a woman as it does for a man, so she sounds like a shrieking harridan and unnatural. It's no wonder she had to sleep her way to the top and use her affirmative action points if this was an example of her trial behavior.

    A true female alpha in charge is much different, picture a Queen Mother or Scarlett O'Hara-esque. Watch Vivien Leigh in this scene here. She's all flitty and girlishness , but goes right to withering side-eye to her servant here when the servant steps out of line--you can tell she's in charge. That's an alpha female:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ7r2OVu1ss

    Harris and Warren are vile harpies.

  191. anon[325] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Clyde:

    My late Jewish boss liked the aphorism that except for alcohol the Irish would rule the world!

    A bit of a lull after the invention of whiskey.

    14th century
    Caid (precursor to modern Gaelic football).[3]
    Whiskey[4]
    17th century
    Irish road bowling.[5]
    1661: Modern chemistry founded by Robert Boyle with the publication of The Sceptical Chymist.[6]
    1662: Boyle’s law discovered by Robert Boyle.[7]
    1680s: Invention of Drinking chocolate – Hans Sloane[8]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Irish_inventions_and_discoveries

    • Replies: @Lot
    “A bit of a lull after the invention of whiskey.”

    The Protestant Ascendancy took a while to establish.

    https://graceburrowes.com/WP/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/cromwell.jpg

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zVoCuIn_z64/TCKjEWFk0PI/AAAAAAAAA5c/y6t7rrr3mHQ/s1600/duke+of+wellington.jpg
  192. anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Doc Dynamo
    My school went through court ordered busing. The wholly typical result was that the terrified administration stopped enforcing any discipline and the school turned into violence ridden hell hole.

    Although I was raised by two committed liberals, the experience turned me into a conservative, or more accurately a passionate anti-liberal. I wish the the American educational system had one throat so I could slash it open and watch it die in front in of me.

    I haven't forgotten and I haven't forgiven.

    @Doc

    What about your parents? I hope you disowned them.

  193. @Jim Don Bob
    “The key to success is sincerity. If you can fake that you've got it made.” ― George Burns.

    Clinton was this quote writ large.

    A similar meme, it is not who you are but whom you seem to be that counts. Works really well for politicians.

  194. @Larry, San Francisco
    Kamala is such a phony. She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. Her parents were high ranking academics and she makes it out she like she was oppressed and had to fight the power.

    ‘She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. ‘

    If that’s true, then I suspect she wasn’t bussed.

    Apparently, she was in Berkeley for first and second grade — before, entirely coincidentally no doubt, her mother got out.

    I was there as well at the time. The drill was that fourth through sixth graders were bussed down to formerly mostly-black schools in the flatlands, while first through third graders were bussed up the hill to formerly mostly-white schools in the hills, or at least further east.

    Ergo, if Kamala Harris did in fact live in an upper-class neighborhood, and she was in first and second grade at the time, she wouldn’t have been bussed.

    • Replies: @M_Young
    I don't think she'd be stupid enough to lie about something that's checkable. More than likely she lived close to the Cal Campus and probably her parents had all sorts of high quality educational choices for her.
  195. @Jim bob Lassiter
    Learn Spanish.

    Because you’re gonna wanna beg your caretakers at the old folks home to take that big heavy pillow off your face in a language they can understand – tell them you have money!

    ¡Tengo dinero!

  196. @Buzz Mohawk
    Happy, friendly-looking bunch, weren't they? Yeah, we need more of that in America.

    Indians seem to be really taciturn, yet they’re among the most vocal of the liberal coalition somehow, I guess the autism takes them from one extreme to the other

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The "Indians" doing the squawking are not taciturn at all, meaning they aren't all that Indian, usually. Real Indians are either raising nonpolitical hell on firewater or if sober often quiet, religious types who do their jobs and cause little trouble. Then there's the oscillating Bettie Page types.
    , @nebulafox
    The culturally taciturn and largely poor legacy Indians stand little chance against the culturally loquacious and largely affluent new Indians in the new Democratic Party's pecking order.

    You really have to feel for the former. What America did to the red man was even worse than what it did to the black man. For the most part, though, outliers aside, it isn't really in their nature to talk about historical traumas or take advantage of white liberal guilt complexes, which means they get ignored in favor of people who do.

  197. The worst part of bussing was the hour and a half commute, so I’d spend 3 hours a day on the bus. Kids should attend local public schools if possible. But I can empathize with the black kids. It’s not good for any child to attend a school >50% black. There is no easy answer to bussing.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    The easy answer happens to be the right one:

    No.
    , @Paleo Liberal
    My parents were ultra liberal whites, but they were against busing. At least for their kids.

    One year my father did a sabbatical, and we moved up north to a town that had busing. My parents made sure we lived in an area where we weren’t bused. I would ride my bike or walk to school. Not that close, but in the old days that’s what we did.

    Kids across the street from my middle school were bused across town. My parents thought that rather unfair.

    About half the kids in the school were black kids bused across town. Many of them resented having to leave their old school and be bused to another school. There was a bit of racial tension.
  198. @dearieme
    What a sour little girl she was.

    That was my reaction to that picture as well, she looks like a pinch faced little scold. Of course, that’s essentially what she became when she grew up, so the child really was the “father of the man”.

  199. @Kyle
    The worst part of bussing was the hour and a half commute, so I’d spend 3 hours a day on the bus. Kids should attend local public schools if possible. But I can empathize with the black kids. It’s not good for any child to attend a school >50% black. There is no easy answer to bussing.

    The easy answer happens to be the right one:

    No.

  200. It only took a few hours after the debate for Kamala Harris’ campaign to sell t-shirts with that picture on it.

    And the picture was up pretty fast.

    It’s almost as if the former prosecutor had the whole scene planned out.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Don't be cynical, one doesn't leave choreographed media events hanging around.
  201. Why didn’t Kamala Harris warn that Barack Obama had selected a racist — Joe Biden — for vice-president? She is the kind of slimy politician who gives opportunism a bad name.

  202. @Art Deco
    The federal judge who tossed most of the Yonkers City Council in jail in 1985 for noncompliance (because they hadn't situated public housing projects where the judge thought they should be sited) lived in Pound Ridge, NY, which has no public housing. Ordinarily, this sort of ad hominem reasoning might be invalid, except that the legal reasoning behind the notion that public housing or school demographics had to be in accordance with the judges' preferences had little to do with any constitutional provision, their pretensions notwithstanding. In Boston, you had professional-class types in the school apparat and the legal system preventing vigorous discipline and then you had professional class types in the legal profession forcing on working class whites student populations which contained a critical mass of people who needed...vigorous discipline, and, in many cases, to be sequestered. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the professionals were completely free of the costs of their own prescriptions (unless they actually worked in these schools).

    So the Roundheads f*cking with the Irish like they have for 400 years?

    Dog bites man.

  203. @Alden
    Whiskey is a gay 80 year old male virgin. Reason he hates women so much is because he’s gay.

    Neither gay, nor virgin, nor anywhere near 80.

    Indeed if I were GAY I would be a protected class and doing well. By law. Instead I work for a living as a working class White man. I just know my class enemies when I see them: foreign weirdo high caste people of color CEOs, bugmen, gays, White women, various people of color grifters.

    Like Heartiste who was banished for his truth telling, I am simply realistic about women. They are what they are, mostly seething feelings and a desire for domination. Ala “rape is sexy ” EJ Whatsername.

  204. @Paleo Liberal
    I was very unclear. My apologies.

    I don’t mean that Biden is geographically a new wave southern Democrat. That species is, I am very sad to say, almost extinct.

    I meant that (a) ideologically and (b) in his ability to reach both black and white working class voters and (c) his age and generation he is the closest thing we have to the New Wave Southern Democrats.

    Even if his policies tend to favor the rich.

    Biden can pass for normal.

    When the Ds are the normal alternative (to, say, lighting a trillion dollars on fire) they win.

    Right now the Blue Cheka is desperate to paint Williamson as nuts because she actually said some normal things herself. Making America the best place in the world to raise a child foremost among them.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    I like the SNL version of Biden better than the real one.
  205. @Kyle
    The worst part of bussing was the hour and a half commute, so I’d spend 3 hours a day on the bus. Kids should attend local public schools if possible. But I can empathize with the black kids. It’s not good for any child to attend a school >50% black. There is no easy answer to bussing.

    My parents were ultra liberal whites, but they were against busing. At least for their kids.

    One year my father did a sabbatical, and we moved up north to a town that had busing. My parents made sure we lived in an area where we weren’t bused. I would ride my bike or walk to school. Not that close, but in the old days that’s what we did.

    Kids across the street from my middle school were bused across town. My parents thought that rather unfair.

    About half the kids in the school were black kids bused across town. Many of them resented having to leave their old school and be bused to another school. There was a bit of racial tension.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    >My parents were ultra liberal whites, but they were against busing. At least for their kids.

    Just like George McGovern. And Ben Bradlee. And Ted Kennedy. And Tom Wicker. And Judge Garrity. And... need I go on?

    Ain't it fun how affluent liberals will sacrifice for their principles, down to every last deplorable?

  206. @Buzz Mohawk
    Talk like this of changing positions and election tactics brings back memories of college students talking more about grades and scores than about what they were actually learning. Many appeared to have no interest in the subject matter other than how it would effect their grades.

    This approach is soulless, and it is common enough that there should be a word for it. Is there? Sapir-Whorf demands one.

    Is there any legitimacy to candidates who do this? Does it serve some market value, like a corporation changing a product based on survey results? How often do politicians then take action once elected in response to what their election research discovered were the desires of the electorate?

    Many appeared to have no interest in the subject matter other than how it would effect their grades.

    This approach is soulless, and it is common enough that there should be a word for it. Is there? Sapir-Whorf demands one.

    Way back when, before college became an inverse intelligence test, the common perception was that college was a prolonged endurance / intelligence / submission test. I regret to say that experience suggests that’s exactly what it was. Corporations wanted smart people with considerable stamina who would do what they were told. The Sapir Whorf word for the process was “BS”, at least among engineering students, or just S*** [1] among Army infantrymen and (I suspect) blue collar workers. The polite equivalent was harassment. It wasn’t uncommon for students to ask professors to simply give them a A in the course because the students were going to be managers and didn’t really need to know the course content.

    This changed as the power of corporations waned and as the political power of swing voting blocks increased. Today, they don’t bother to test for intelligence. From what I’ve been told, even in CS the languages taught don’t keep up with commercial standard languages.

    As far as politicians spending all their time and money to make plausible lies, the word “politician” has usually sufficed in polite company, and words that the moderator wouoldn’t let pass have been used on other occasions.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Common advice among engineering students:
    You just have to put up with this s***.

    Common marching cadence, c.a. 1970:
    Well here we go,
    We’re at it again.
    This G** D***** S***
    will never end!

    Amazing how many swear words are actually euphemisms.

  207. @BB753
    Black men and Hispanic men won't vote for her. For the former, she's not black enough and a woman, for the latter because she's blackish and a woman. Only stupid white men will vote for a woman to lead them.

    Possibly. But the big shots at Silicon Valley places think their big data will make the difference. They really believe they can push people to vote for her in both elections (primary, general).

    The plus for them: they have unlimited money, unlimited computing power, above average (but not the smartest) data analysts from Chennai, Bangalore, and Shenzen. The minus for them: said analysts are foreign weirdos, mostly semi-aristocrats, with zero knowledge or interest in the people of the United States.

    I think Harris is a repellent figure for almost all White men who are not gay. A few pozzed non gay Whites would vote for her, most would not. White men still like and admire men of action. That’s Trump more than the power bottoms, washed up old fart pols, angry lesbians, and weirdos of the Democratic party.

    I think Silicon Valley believes its own BS about the Russians hacking the campaign in 2016 and figure they can do one better. We’ll see I suppose.

  208. @Desiderius
    Biden can pass for normal.

    When the Ds are the normal alternative (to, say, lighting a trillion dollars on fire) they win.

    Right now the Blue Cheka is desperate to paint Williamson as nuts because she actually said some normal things herself. Making America the best place in the world to raise a child foremost among them.

    I like the SNL version of Biden better than the real one.

  209. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marcus
    Indians seem to be really taciturn, yet they're among the most vocal of the liberal coalition somehow, I guess the autism takes them from one extreme to the other

    The “Indians” doing the squawking are not taciturn at all, meaning they aren’t all that Indian, usually. Real Indians are either raising nonpolitical hell on firewater or if sober often quiet, religious types who do their jobs and cause little trouble. Then there’s the oscillating Bettie Page types.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    He meant call-center Indians, not casino Indians.
  210. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    School busing was an issue that actually caused a few buses and bus barns to go “kaboom” , without propane leaks or Muzzies involved. As opposed to most other transgressions against whiteness which are usually brooked with only token complaint.

    “When you’re messing with my kid’s schools, you’re walking on the fighting side of me” was an issue that united southerners and South Boston Irish, as Bob Whitaker used to say. I miss Ole Bob a lot.

  211. @anon
    A bit of a lull after the invention of whiskey.

    14th century
    Caid (precursor to modern Gaelic football).[3]
    Whiskey[4]
    17th century
    Irish road bowling.[5]
    1661: Modern chemistry founded by Robert Boyle with the publication of The Sceptical Chymist.[6]
    1662: Boyle's law discovered by Robert Boyle.[7]
    1680s: Invention of Drinking chocolate - Hans Sloane[8]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Irish_inventions_and_discoveries

    “A bit of a lull after the invention of whiskey.”

    The Protestant Ascendancy took a while to establish.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Wellington was the MFing man.

    Sadly my own expat experience has not boosted my career in the same way as the Iron Duke's.
  212. @Paleo Liberal
    It only took a few hours after the debate for Kamala Harris’ campaign to sell t-shirts with that picture on it.

    And the picture was up pretty fast.

    It’s almost as if the former prosecutor had the whole scene planned out.

    Don’t be cynical, one doesn’t leave choreographed media events hanging around.

  213. @Simply Simon
    We called it "forced busing" in Austin TX. A Federal judge by the name of Jack Roberts decided it was his duty to upset the peace and harmony of what was then a sleepy college town in the 1970s. He probably did not have much choice being urged on by the ACLU lawyers and black activists just then starting to feel their oats. It did not matter that the black schools were doing quite well with out whitey being in the classroom. The black kids rode long distances to white schools in the buses while many white kids drove cars or were driven by their parents. All this caused the exodus of white families to the nearest suburbs while the black schools slowly deteriorated to substandard levels. Yes, busing has gone done the memory hole in Austin but the bitterness still lingers in the hearts of those affected by this abuse of Federal power. The city of Austin has changed dramatically since the '70s. The population has exploded and it is now a high tech center rivaling Silicon Valley. An extremely liberal mayor and city council do what liberal do gooders always do, spend the taxpayers money on do-gooder projects as if it were their own. Meanwhile there is a multitude of crises--housing, homelessness and highways that resemble parking lots. Isn't progress grand?

    MATA. Make Austin Texas Again.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
    Comes the revolution!
  214. @Lot
    “A bit of a lull after the invention of whiskey.”

    The Protestant Ascendancy took a while to establish.

    https://graceburrowes.com/WP/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/cromwell.jpg

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zVoCuIn_z64/TCKjEWFk0PI/AAAAAAAAA5c/y6t7rrr3mHQ/s1600/duke+of+wellington.jpg

    Wellington was the MFing man.

    Sadly my own expat experience has not boosted my career in the same way as the Iron Duke’s.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Have you tried killing more Frenchmen? Wait wrong century, “interrogating” more Arabs?

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/180316154012-gina-haspel-780x439.jpg
  215. @Paleo Liberal
    My parents were ultra liberal whites, but they were against busing. At least for their kids.

    One year my father did a sabbatical, and we moved up north to a town that had busing. My parents made sure we lived in an area where we weren’t bused. I would ride my bike or walk to school. Not that close, but in the old days that’s what we did.

    Kids across the street from my middle school were bused across town. My parents thought that rather unfair.

    About half the kids in the school were black kids bused across town. Many of them resented having to leave their old school and be bused to another school. There was a bit of racial tension.

    >My parents were ultra liberal whites, but they were against busing. At least for their kids.

    Just like George McGovern. And Ben Bradlee. And Ted Kennedy. And Tom Wicker. And Judge Garrity. And… need I go on?

    Ain’t it fun how affluent liberals will sacrifice for their principles, down to every last deplorable?

  216. @Marcus
    Indians seem to be really taciturn, yet they're among the most vocal of the liberal coalition somehow, I guess the autism takes them from one extreme to the other

    The culturally taciturn and largely poor legacy Indians stand little chance against the culturally loquacious and largely affluent new Indians in the new Democratic Party’s pecking order.

    You really have to feel for the former. What America did to the red man was even worse than what it did to the black man. For the most part, though, outliers aside, it isn’t really in their nature to talk about historical traumas or take advantage of white liberal guilt complexes, which means they get ignored in favor of people who do.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    What America did to the red man was even worse than what it did to the black man.

    No, it just booted him out of the way. Adaptable aboriginal tribes like the Seneca could and did prosper in this country.
    , @Kronos
    Unfortunately, they reside in more rural areas. Far away from the Democratic urban “superstructure.”
  217. Hail says: • Website
    @Lot
    What percent of the US black population is part or whole New Black versus 100% Heritage Black?

    In MN and the whole NE, the New share must be 40% or more by now.

    Somalis are taking over airport jobs that used to be Heritage Black almost everywhere in the USA.

    What percent of the US black population is part or whole New Black versus 100% Heritage Black?

    Any good ideas out there on methods for estimating this?

    With perfect information, I’d wonder the answer to the following question, a refined version of yours, Lot:

    Q. “As of 1860, what percentage of [person]’s total ancestry was (a) an enslaved person in any state of the USA, (b) a former slave or descendant of former slaves in the USA (i.e., Free Blacks), (c) Subsaharan-ancestry persons not resident in the USA in 1860 (i.e., later Black immigrants), (d) Other (i.e., non-Black ancestry).”

    If one could find all U.S.-resident Blacks’ aggregate, we could see what (a)+(b) vs. (c) looks. Many would be surprised, I think, at just how much (c) there would turn out to be. (Bad news for affirmative-action pushers.)

    ____________

    In a thread several days ago, I proposed that Farrakhan (b.1933) is “not a homegrown African,” in that his parents were Caribbean immigrants. They arrived in the Marcus Garvey period (sources seem to only say “1920s”).

    A commenter replied that of course Farrakhan is American because he was born here, to which I said the point is that Farrakhan never was, culturally, an ‘African-American’ (what Lot renders here as “Heritage Black”) and indeed Farrakhan’s mother raised him in Caribbean enclaves in New York and Roxbury, Mass. He is of recent foreign origin compared to the typical Southern Black, as the latter is of largely 18th-century slave ancestry. (It may not be a surprise that Farrakhan gravitated towards a decidedly foreign, then-recently-concocted religion, the Nation of Islam.)

    • Replies: @Lot
    “Any good ideas out there on methods for estimating this?”

    To get a rough figure, take the census figures of foreign born by country, add up SSA and the indies, then double it to account for US-borns.
  218. @Keypusher
    Unfortunately ER showed that Harris told a little truth (she was in one of the first integrated elementary school classes) embedded in a big lie, so she’s safe.

    Busing is a dead issue, so saying something nice about it wont hurt her. As ER said, this was carefully planned, and whoever thought of it is getting high fives at Campaign HQ.

    She most certainly did not tell a “little truth”. She flatly lied. She’s “safe” because the media will ignor eher lie, not because she calculated a correct degree of untruth.

    And you clearly didn’t understand my piece (assuming you read it), because the whole point of my argument was not “she lied” but “she is saying that the federal government must step in to assure integration”, thus clearly making busing anything but a dead issue.

    • Replies: @Keypusher
    Hi, Ed. I’ve been reading you for years, and I’ve learned a great deal from you.

    You wrote,

    “Four years later, in 1968, the elementary schools were integrated via busing, with the black children in the Berkeley “flats” traveling to the mostly white schools of the hills, and vice versa. Kamala Harris was in the second class of integrated elementary school students.”

    That was the “little truth” I had in mind.

    As for how this will all play out politically, obviously we disagree. You’re smarter and more knowledgeable than I am, I know.

    I don’t think this will hurt Biden the way some are predicting, but I also I think it will help Harris, not hurt her. Partly because I think the actual policies she’ll urge will be less drastic than the busing reference would indicate. One of the education reporters you linked to seemed to be hinting at that.
  219. @Harry Baldwin
    When bringing up Whitey Bulger, let's not forget to mention his connection to that man of impeccable integrity, Robert Mueller.

    Ripping FBI special counsel Robert Mueller as a political "zealot," Harvard law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz reminded staunch Mueller supporters about the former FBI director's role in protecting "notorious mass murderer" Whitey Bulger as an FBI informant....

    "He's the guy who kept four innocent people in prison for many years in order to protect the cover of Whitey Bulger as an FBI informer. Those of us in Boston don't have such a high regard for Mueller because we remember this story. The government had to pay out tens of millions of dollars because Whitey Bulger, a notorious mass murderer, became a government informer against the mafia . . .

    "And that's regarded in Boston of one of the great scandals of modern judicial history. And Mueller was right at the center of it. So, he is not without criticism by people who know him in Boston."
     

    “And that’s regarded in Boston of one of the great scandals of modern judicial history. And Mueller was right at the center of it.”

    Well, old Whitey won’t be running his mouth now, will he?

  220. “world war B” huh huh “world war “Biden””?…

  221. @nebulafox
    The culturally taciturn and largely poor legacy Indians stand little chance against the culturally loquacious and largely affluent new Indians in the new Democratic Party's pecking order.

    You really have to feel for the former. What America did to the red man was even worse than what it did to the black man. For the most part, though, outliers aside, it isn't really in their nature to talk about historical traumas or take advantage of white liberal guilt complexes, which means they get ignored in favor of people who do.

    What America did to the red man was even worse than what it did to the black man.

    No, it just booted him out of the way. Adaptable aboriginal tribes like the Seneca could and did prosper in this country.

  222. @Lot
    What percent of the US black population is part or whole New Black versus 100% Heritage Black?

    In MN and the whole NE, the New share must be 40% or more by now.

    Somalis are taking over airport jobs that used to be Heritage Black almost everywhere in the USA.

    About 15% of the black population list themselves as West Indian or African. In Minnesota, its 38%, with a subset of 12% listing themselves as Somali.

    • Replies: @Lot
    That seems too low to me.

    MN was 2.2% black in 1990, and 5.7% today. From 96k to 365k.

    Heritage Black TFR is basically the same as white. Pretty doubtful Old Blacks are moving in MN in giant numbers.

    But let’s say Old Black fertility and in-migration rate in MN was actually substantially higher than the white rate. That might have moved the black share to 2.7% naturally. But it went from 2.2 to 5.7. Thus MN is most likely more than half New Black.

    Actual in-migration trends of Old Blacks is away from the North. And it is probably especially strong in MN for blacks at retirement as the South is warmer, culturally closer, and has a lower cost of living.

    I’d actually guess the black share absent migration would have declined to about 2% from 90 to 17, and the extra 3.7% are migrants and their children. So closer to 2/3 New Black.

  223. @nebulafox
    The culturally taciturn and largely poor legacy Indians stand little chance against the culturally loquacious and largely affluent new Indians in the new Democratic Party's pecking order.

    You really have to feel for the former. What America did to the red man was even worse than what it did to the black man. For the most part, though, outliers aside, it isn't really in their nature to talk about historical traumas or take advantage of white liberal guilt complexes, which means they get ignored in favor of people who do.

    Unfortunately, they reside in more rural areas. Far away from the Democratic urban “superstructure.”

  224. @Hail

    What percent of the US black population is part or whole New Black versus 100% Heritage Black?
     
    Any good ideas out there on methods for estimating this?

    With perfect information, I'd wonder the answer to the following question, a refined version of yours, Lot:

    Q. "As of 1860, what percentage of [person]'s total ancestry was (a) an enslaved person in any state of the USA, (b) a former slave or descendant of former slaves in the USA (i.e., Free Blacks), (c) Subsaharan-ancestry persons not resident in the USA in 1860 (i.e., later Black immigrants), (d) Other (i.e., non-Black ancestry)."

    If one could find all U.S.-resident Blacks' aggregate, we could see what (a)+(b) vs. (c) looks. Many would be surprised, I think, at just how much (c) there would turn out to be. (Bad news for affirmative-action pushers.)

    ____________

    In a thread several days ago, I proposed that Farrakhan (b.1933) is "not a homegrown African," in that his parents were Caribbean immigrants. They arrived in the Marcus Garvey period (sources seem to only say "1920s").

    A commenter replied that of course Farrakhan is American because he was born here, to which I said the point is that Farrakhan never was, culturally, an 'African-American' (what Lot renders here as "Heritage Black") and indeed Farrakhan's mother raised him in Caribbean enclaves in New York and Roxbury, Mass. He is of recent foreign origin compared to the typical Southern Black, as the latter is of largely 18th-century slave ancestry. (It may not be a surprise that Farrakhan gravitated towards a decidedly foreign, then-recently-concocted religion, the Nation of Islam.)

    “Any good ideas out there on methods for estimating this?”

    To get a rough figure, take the census figures of foreign born by country, add up SSA and the indies, then double it to account for US-borns.

  225. @Whiskey
    Harris is the choice of Silicon Valley. To be precise Sundar Pinchai, Saytella Nardella, Susan Wojihicki, Page, Brin, Bezos, and Zuck. Foreigners, box wine aunts, bug men.

    With tons of money and control of the media. Both social and legacy.

    They bet they can push over the line for the nom and General. They have big data and all the best minds of India and China on their side. OK cheapest minds.The

    And their bet is single White women feelz + Blacks + Hispanics = victory.

    They may be right.

    If Silicon Valley can figure out a way to count the votes Harris wins the primary and the general election.

    That is why Trump needs to pursue anti-trust action against the Silicon Valley giants now–play to win or risk losing.

  226. @anonymous
    Kamala Harris is also a phony because she identifies as black, while her absent pale skinned mulatto Jamaican father (a distinguished economist) had little to do with most of her upbringing. Her Tamil Brahmin brought her up for six years in Montreal, and her Tamil grandmother, the wife of a senior Indian diplomat, provided a lot of support by spending part of the year with the girls.

    A lot like Obama, who was mostly raised by white Kansan grandparents and went to a very white prep school but went into Chicago local politics, Kamala Harris made a deliberate choice to identify as black by choosing to go to an HBCU and then Hastings Law. Her sister, Maya Harris, went to Berkeley and Stanford.

    Kamala Harris is on strained terms with her father. Recently, he published an annoyed statement scolding her for painting all Jamaicans as weed-smoking Rastafarians.

    https://www.jamaicaglobalonline.com/donald-harris-slams-his-daughter-senator-kamala-harris-for-fraudulently-stereotyping-jamaicans-and-accusing-her-of-playing-identity-politics/

    Kamala Harris is married to a Jewish attorney. I doubt that he identifies as White. I wonder if he considers himself a victim.

    https://heavy.com/news/2017/06/kamala-harris-husband-douglas-emhoff-california-senator-lawyer-age-kids-family-bio/

  227. @t
    What makes you think Hispanic and Asian parents want their children going to school with blacks?

    Blacks who care about their kids’ future don’t want their kids going to school with Blacks. Even low income individuals will scrounge up the funds to send their kids to private schools.

  228. @anonymous
    The most important example of a Jew who went to a public school in LA is of course Stephen Miller.

    That is how he became woke. (I attended samohi with him)

    Makes me laugh when I see our age (some of them famous) screaming about the glories of diversity when I know they went to Crossroads or harvard-westlake.

    Maybe Miller's parents were clueless transplants? I know they had enough money. And maybe they knew the elementary schools in Santa Monica were good. But did they think Santa Monica *High* would be populated by their neighbors in, you know, Santa Monica?

    Liberals and cuckservatives have been saying for I don’t know long that “prejudice is ignorance.” Sometimes that true, but IMO, there’s plenty of justified “familiarity breeds contempt.” They don’t want to admit that white gentiles may be justified in avoiding, fearing or despising other tribes.

  229. @Diversity is Great!

    Coast Guard to Reimburse Moms on Duty to Ship Breast Milk

    25 Jun 2019

    Military.com | By Patricia Kime

    The U.S. Coast Guard announced Tuesday it will implement a program to pay shipping costs for service members who send breast milk to their babies when they are underway or on other official travel.

    The reimbursement program, funded by Coast Guard Mutual Assistance, will pay up to $750 a year per household for shipping. It will be available to all active-duty personnel, Public Health Services officers and Navy chaplains detailed to the Coast Guard, reserve members on active duty status, spouses on business travel and Coast Guard civilian employee
     

    Earlier this year, Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Karl Schultz promised numerous changes in the coming year designed to keep women in the service, attract female recruits and increase diversity.

    Women constitute nearly 15 percent of the Coast Guard, but they tend to leave at rates higher than men after about five years – usually during the time when they start having families.

    Groundbreaking changes in the past few months designed to strike a work-life balance for members include implementing a program that allows reserve members to backfill active-duty positions when personnel are on maternity, convalescent or caregiver leave.

    The Coast Guard also has eliminated gender-specific pronouns from promotion packages and professional evaluations. And it is exploring changes to physical standards, which are based on body mass and require a tape measurement of all personnel twice a year.

    Schultz has said the standards disproportionately affect women and cause undue stress on service members.
     
    :)

    Goes without saying that a woman with a baby has no business being on active duty.

  230. @PiltdownMan

    Happy, friendly-looking bunch, weren’t they? Yeah, we need more of that in America.
     
    To the grandparents credit, they didn't emigrate. The grandfather served his country as a diplomat and retired there. That's exactly what we want.

    But they did send their 19 year old daughter off from Delhi to grad school at Berkeley.

    A footnote. Smiling or grinning at the camera in group photographs used to be quite unusual, even in America. It's a thing that seems to have started soon after WWII.

    When was the photo taken – in the 1970s?

  231. @Bostonvegas
    Busing was my first trigger to a long hatred of liberal hypocrites....all my pals were negatively affected by it in all sorts of ways...kids from charlestown used the word liberal as a generic insult the way we used the words faggot or pussey

    I understand why – the children of the self-righteous moral grandstanding liberals weren’t bused. On top of that, the liberals considered you, the other kids and your familes from Charlestown to be “racist” for not wanting to be bused. I loathe moral grandstanding, too.

  232. @Harry Baldwin
    When bringing up Whitey Bulger, let's not forget to mention his connection to that man of impeccable integrity, Robert Mueller.

    Ripping FBI special counsel Robert Mueller as a political "zealot," Harvard law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz reminded staunch Mueller supporters about the former FBI director's role in protecting "notorious mass murderer" Whitey Bulger as an FBI informant....

    "He's the guy who kept four innocent people in prison for many years in order to protect the cover of Whitey Bulger as an FBI informer. Those of us in Boston don't have such a high regard for Mueller because we remember this story. The government had to pay out tens of millions of dollars because Whitey Bulger, a notorious mass murderer, became a government informer against the mafia . . .

    "And that's regarded in Boston of one of the great scandals of modern judicial history. And Mueller was right at the center of it. So, he is not without criticism by people who know him in Boston."
     

    Psycho Agent Man Peter Strzok worked in the Boston FBI office at the time:

    https://howiecarrshow.com/2018/08/17/peter-strzok-drank-that-dirty-water/

  233. @Alden
    Berkeley schools were always integrated. She was born in 1964. Berkeley school system was bragging in the early 1960s about how integrated it was and how the black kids did so well in school and how the kids all got along.

    By the time she was born the Oakland public schools were known all over the state as violent dangerous and majority black By 1973 when she was in second grade it was worse.

    And Stanford prof Dad couldn’t come up with private school tuition? From things she’s said over the years it sounds as though he didn’t even send basic child support which was common in the 60s and 70s. Were her parents even married?

    Maybe the family lived in Oakland. Probably the school she attended first grade was so dangerous because of the black kids Mom registered her in Berkeley schools using a friends address

    Or maybe she’s lied all along and the family always lived in Berkeley. Living in Oakland would enhance her resume among blacks.
    .

    Ms. Harris’ dad may not have paid child support? Why am I not surprised?

  234. @Alden
    The plaintiff, Esther Brown was a White Jewish attorney who had no children in the Topeka public schools.

    I thought the black victim child had to walk about 3/4 mile to the nearest black school instead of a couple blocks to the school nearest her home which was a White school.

    1956 the Satanic supremes decree that the 14th amendment requires that all American children attend the public school nearest their home.
    OK, seems reasonable

    1966 the Satanic supremes decree that the 14th amendment requires that all American children get on school buses at 6/45 in the morning to attend schools 10, 20, as much as 40 miles away.

    And conservatives believe that our laws are made by elected legislatures

    Esther Brown, a White Jewish attorney. Almost. Every. Single. Time. Sigh.

    • Replies: @Keypusher
    Esther Brown, Jewish attorney, is a figment of Alden’s imagination (not just his, I’m sure). Linda Brown and the other Topeka plaintiffs were black schoolchildren. There seems to a be a lot of alt-right mythmaking about the case.
  235. @Doc Dynamo
    My school went through court ordered busing. The wholly typical result was that the terrified administration stopped enforcing any discipline and the school turned into violence ridden hell hole.

    Although I was raised by two committed liberals, the experience turned me into a conservative, or more accurately a passionate anti-liberal. I wish the the American educational system had one throat so I could slash it open and watch it die in front in of me.

    I haven't forgotten and I haven't forgiven.

    Discipline be racist.

  236. @education realist
    She most certainly did not tell a "little truth". She flatly lied. She's "safe" because the media will ignor eher lie, not because she calculated a correct degree of untruth.

    And you clearly didn't understand my piece (assuming you read it), because the whole point of my argument was not "she lied" but "she is saying that the federal government must step in to assure integration", thus clearly making busing anything but a dead issue.

    Hi, Ed. I’ve been reading you for years, and I’ve learned a great deal from you.

    You wrote,

    “Four years later, in 1968, the elementary schools were integrated via busing, with the black children in the Berkeley “flats” traveling to the mostly white schools of the hills, and vice versa. Kamala Harris was in the second class of integrated elementary school students.”

    That was the “little truth” I had in mind.

    As for how this will all play out politically, obviously we disagree. You’re smarter and more knowledgeable than I am, I know.

    I don’t think this will hurt Biden the way some are predicting, but I also I think it will help Harris, not hurt her. Partly because I think the actual policies she’ll urge will be less drastic than the busing reference would indicate. One of the education reporters you linked to seemed to be hinting at that.

    • Replies: @education realist
    "One of the education reporters you linked to seemed to be hinting at that."

    That's called "walking it back."

    I'm not more knowledgeable on politics. But once again, what you seem not to be acknowledging, is that Harris was NOT the first integrated class in Berkeley. That happened over 100 years earlier.
  237. @Anonymous
    The "Indians" doing the squawking are not taciturn at all, meaning they aren't all that Indian, usually. Real Indians are either raising nonpolitical hell on firewater or if sober often quiet, religious types who do their jobs and cause little trouble. Then there's the oscillating Bettie Page types.

    He meant call-center Indians, not casino Indians.

  238. Yeah. 1978. I was bused in 8th grade in Montclair, NJ. Although my old school was already pretty integrated.

    It wasn’t too bad but some unpleasantness. You had to know what was up. And never use the bathroom. It wasn’t even a half mile from my house. And was right by where I played in a YMCA basketball league. I don’t think the black kids liked us coming to their neighborhood, either.

  239. @Lot
    There was a 29 year old girl in California who dated her 60 year old married boss. That girl was me.

    https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/willie-brown-and-kamala-harris.jpg

    There was a 32 year girl in California whose 63 year old boyfriend-boss found her a job that paid $72,000 a year for 12 days a year of work on the California Medical Assistance Board. That girl was me.

    Once again unz stinginess with lol and agree forces me to leave an lol here.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Why thank you. I knew I had a hit when I hit post, I hope Dave Pinsen steals it for a tweet. He’s always welcome to without attribution.
  240. @Colin Wright
    'She was brought up in an upper class extremely liberal Berkeley neighborhood. '

    If that's true, then I suspect she wasn't bussed.

    Apparently, she was in Berkeley for first and second grade -- before, entirely coincidentally no doubt, her mother got out.

    I was there as well at the time. The drill was that fourth through sixth graders were bussed down to formerly mostly-black schools in the flatlands, while first through third graders were bussed up the hill to formerly mostly-white schools in the hills, or at least further east.

    Ergo, if Kamala Harris did in fact live in an upper-class neighborhood, and she was in first and second grade at the time, she wouldn't have been bussed.

    I don’t think she’d be stupid enough to lie about something that’s checkable. More than likely she lived close to the Cal Campus and probably her parents had all sorts of high quality educational choices for her.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'I don’t think she’d be stupid enough to lie about something that’s checkable...'

    Yeah -- you're right.

    '...Harris was bused to the school from a yellow duplex on Bancroft Way, between Browning and Bonar streets...

    Worse, assertions of various posters notwithstanding, Harris couldn't have been living a life of wealth and privilege. 'Bancroft Way, between Browning and Bonar streets' would have been a decidedly modest neighborhood back in the day. It isn't so hot now. Livable, but definitely the flatlands.

    It's okay; I still think she's from Satan. But unlike say, Obama, she wasn't obviously a child of wealth and privilege.

  241. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Wellington was the MFing man.

    Sadly my own expat experience has not boosted my career in the same way as the Iron Duke's.

    Have you tried killing more Frenchmen? Wait wrong century, “interrogating” more Arabs?

  242. Lot says:
    @Art Deco
    About 15% of the black population list themselves as West Indian or African. In Minnesota, its 38%, with a subset of 12% listing themselves as Somali.

    That seems too low to me.

    MN was 2.2% black in 1990, and 5.7% today. From 96k to 365k.

    Heritage Black TFR is basically the same as white. Pretty doubtful Old Blacks are moving in MN in giant numbers.

    But let’s say Old Black fertility and in-migration rate in MN was actually substantially higher than the white rate. That might have moved the black share to 2.7% naturally. But it went from 2.2 to 5.7. Thus MN is most likely more than half New Black.

    Actual in-migration trends of Old Blacks is away from the North. And it is probably especially strong in MN for blacks at retirement as the South is warmer, culturally closer, and has a lower cost of living.

    I’d actually guess the black share absent migration would have declined to about 2% from 90 to 17, and the extra 3.7% are migrants and their children. So closer to 2/3 New Black.

  243. @TWS
    Once again unz stinginess with lol and agree forces me to leave an lol here.

    Why thank you. I knew I had a hit when I hit post, I hope Dave Pinsen steals it for a tweet. He’s always welcome to without attribution.

  244. @Hunsdon
    MATA. Make Austin Texas Again.

    Comes the revolution!

  245. @M_Young
    I don't think she'd be stupid enough to lie about something that's checkable. More than likely she lived close to the Cal Campus and probably her parents had all sorts of high quality educational choices for her.

    ‘I don’t think she’d be stupid enough to lie about something that’s checkable…’

    Yeah — you’re right.

    ‘…Harris was bused to the school from a yellow duplex on Bancroft Way, between Browning and Bonar streets…

    Worse, assertions of various posters notwithstanding, Harris couldn’t have been living a life of wealth and privilege. ‘Bancroft Way, between Browning and Bonar streets’ would have been a decidedly modest neighborhood back in the day. It isn’t so hot now. Livable, but definitely the flatlands.

    It’s okay; I still think she’s from Satan. But unlike say, Obama, she wasn’t obviously a child of wealth and privilege.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    There's no indication that Obama had any privileges at all until he sent out his college applications. His grandfather sold furniture and insurance and his grandmother was middle-management at the Bank of Hawaii. Quite unremarkable. His grandparents, as is common in Hawaii, lived in a high-rise condo because a detached house was out of reach for them.

    It's a reasonable guess that the Soetero household counted as high-class in that particular context - his stepfather had a skilled and salaried job at the state oil company and his mother was a functionary of the Ford Foundation. The context, however, is one wherein most people work in agriculture or in the informal sector. Living in Honolulu, Lolo Soetero would be just another technician. (BO lived in Java for about four years. There used to be available a video of him struggling to make a 40 second long statement in the Malay trader's dialect. Place didn't make much of an impression on him).
  246. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Esther Brown, a White Jewish attorney. Almost. Every. Single. Time. Sigh.

    Esther Brown, Jewish attorney, is a figment of Alden’s imagination (not just his, I’m sure). Linda Brown and the other Topeka plaintiffs were black schoolchildren. There seems to a be a lot of alt-right mythmaking about the case.

  247. @Colin Wright
    'I don’t think she’d be stupid enough to lie about something that’s checkable...'

    Yeah -- you're right.

    '...Harris was bused to the school from a yellow duplex on Bancroft Way, between Browning and Bonar streets...

    Worse, assertions of various posters notwithstanding, Harris couldn't have been living a life of wealth and privilege. 'Bancroft Way, between Browning and Bonar streets' would have been a decidedly modest neighborhood back in the day. It isn't so hot now. Livable, but definitely the flatlands.

    It's okay; I still think she's from Satan. But unlike say, Obama, she wasn't obviously a child of wealth and privilege.

    There’s no indication that Obama had any privileges at all until he sent out his college applications. His grandfather sold furniture and insurance and his grandmother was middle-management at the Bank of Hawaii. Quite unremarkable. His grandparents, as is common in Hawaii, lived in a high-rise condo because a detached house was out of reach for them.

    It’s a reasonable guess that the Soetero household counted as high-class in that particular context – his stepfather had a skilled and salaried job at the state oil company and his mother was a functionary of the Ford Foundation. The context, however, is one wherein most people work in agriculture or in the informal sector. Living in Honolulu, Lolo Soetero would be just another technician. (BO lived in Java for about four years. There used to be available a video of him struggling to make a 40 second long statement in the Malay trader’s dialect. Place didn’t make much of an impression on him).

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'There’s no indication that Obama had any privileges at all until he sent out his college applications..."

    He did go to the elite private high school in the state. That's considerably more privileged than most of us.

    So you're wrong. There's evidence Obama had privileges before he sent out his college applications.
    , @Desiderius

    Place didn’t make much of an impression on him
     
    Few do.
  248. @Art Deco
    There's no indication that Obama had any privileges at all until he sent out his college applications. His grandfather sold furniture and insurance and his grandmother was middle-management at the Bank of Hawaii. Quite unremarkable. His grandparents, as is common in Hawaii, lived in a high-rise condo because a detached house was out of reach for them.

    It's a reasonable guess that the Soetero household counted as high-class in that particular context - his stepfather had a skilled and salaried job at the state oil company and his mother was a functionary of the Ford Foundation. The context, however, is one wherein most people work in agriculture or in the informal sector. Living in Honolulu, Lolo Soetero would be just another technician. (BO lived in Java for about four years. There used to be available a video of him struggling to make a 40 second long statement in the Malay trader's dialect. Place didn't make much of an impression on him).

    ‘There’s no indication that Obama had any privileges at all until he sent out his college applications…”

    He did go to the elite private high school in the state. That’s considerably more privileged than most of us.

    So you’re wrong. There’s evidence Obama had privileges before he sent out his college applications.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    He did go to the elite private high school in the state. That’s considerably more privileged than most of us.

    'Privilege' as in 'private law'. Attending schools like Punahou in that era didn't require privilege. They required adequate test scores and cash. Given the population on Oahu at the time (700,000), the census of Punahou was astonishingly large for a private institution not run by the Catholic diocese or the religious orders, btw. I grew up in a burg of a similar size and only the very largest Catholic high school (run by the Society of Jesus) had a census in that range.
  249. @Lagertha
    she has no shot - relax. Most women find her annoying. More importantly, black men will never support her.

    ‘she has no shot – relax. Most women find her annoying. More importantly, black men will never support her.’

    Well, yeah. But it’s kind of like the nuclear standoff in the Cold War.

    On the one hand, the existence of nuclear weapons avoided what otherwise probably would have been a conventional World War Three. On the other hand, what if the missiles had flown? It was a hell of a chance to take.

    Ditto for Kamala Harris. Trump should be able to liquidate her. She’s one of the more eminently beatable candidates out there.

    On the other hand, what if she won?

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    On the other hand, what if she won?


    It would be so easy for the Senate to stifle her. However, they won't. The GOP will immediately use it as an excuse to give the Dems (and the GOP donors) everything they want.

    , @International Jew
    Yep. What you're saying, basically, is that we're in a bad spot. It's bad enough that our best option is Trump.
  250. @Veracitor
    The Democrat forced-busing fanatics had to wait for Bobbi Fiedler and Roberta Weintraub to die, which they did respectively in March and January of this year (2019).

    Of course there aren't many white kids left in L.A. to bus. Maybe they can put the Chinese kids on buses for a year or two, until they all mysteriously disappear.

    Born Roberta Frances Horowitz

    Almost every single time.

    • Replies: @Veracitor
    Fiedler and Weintraub were on our side (anti-busing).
  251. @Colin Wright
    'she has no shot – relax. Most women find her annoying. More importantly, black men will never support her.'

    Well, yeah. But it's kind of like the nuclear standoff in the Cold War.

    On the one hand, the existence of nuclear weapons avoided what otherwise probably would have been a conventional World War Three. On the other hand, what if the missiles had flown? It was a hell of a chance to take.

    Ditto for Kamala Harris. Trump should be able to liquidate her. She's one of the more eminently beatable candidates out there.

    On the other hand, what if she won?

    On the other hand, what if she won?

    It would be so easy for the Senate to stifle her. However, they won’t. The GOP will immediately use it as an excuse to give the Dems (and the GOP donors) everything they want.

    • Replies: @Keypusher
    If a Democrat wins the White House it’s a cinch they’ll also carry the senate
  252. @guest
    Not quite memory-holed, because it is recounted occasionally in mainstream entertainment. Especially since Hollywood got fond of New England accents outside of New York.

    Or rather, the fact that whites in Boston threw rocks at buses is recounted. The new Kevin Bacon Showtime series City on a Hill mentions this. As did the Departed.

    and many of those formerly white neighborhoods are crapholes now. So *technically* the racists were right, but it is incredibly problematic and evil that they predicted what would happen.

  253. @Art Deco
    There's no indication that Obama had any privileges at all until he sent out his college applications. His grandfather sold furniture and insurance and his grandmother was middle-management at the Bank of Hawaii. Quite unremarkable. His grandparents, as is common in Hawaii, lived in a high-rise condo because a detached house was out of reach for them.

    It's a reasonable guess that the Soetero household counted as high-class in that particular context - his stepfather had a skilled and salaried job at the state oil company and his mother was a functionary of the Ford Foundation. The context, however, is one wherein most people work in agriculture or in the informal sector. Living in Honolulu, Lolo Soetero would be just another technician. (BO lived in Java for about four years. There used to be available a video of him struggling to make a 40 second long statement in the Malay trader's dialect. Place didn't make much of an impression on him).

    Place didn’t make much of an impression on him

    Few do.

  254. @AnotherDad
    Cool.

    Unfortunately cigarette smokers these days--unlike when i was a kid and all the men had been given smokes during the War--aren't exactly the most rational or disciplined bunch.

    Yeah, for all I knew he got most of his votes from nonsmoking fiscal conservatives like me.

  255. @Colin Wright
    'she has no shot – relax. Most women find her annoying. More importantly, black men will never support her.'

    Well, yeah. But it's kind of like the nuclear standoff in the Cold War.

    On the one hand, the existence of nuclear weapons avoided what otherwise probably would have been a conventional World War Three. On the other hand, what if the missiles had flown? It was a hell of a chance to take.

    Ditto for Kamala Harris. Trump should be able to liquidate her. She's one of the more eminently beatable candidates out there.

    On the other hand, what if she won?

    Yep. What you’re saying, basically, is that we’re in a bad spot. It’s bad enough that our best option is Trump.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Trump's not so bad. Don't believe the hype.
  256. Public edyukashun was sold, to a gullible voting public, as a way to provide (what we now know as) basic skills (done by eighth grade or so) to desperately poor kids; that would constitute maybe about 1% of all kids.

    As an alternative to them receiving no formal education at all.

    Perpetual funding, for that relatively modest burden, was set aside, in tax-free, interest bearing trust, at the outset.

    And here we are.

    Public edyukashun is a *political* institution.

  257. @Keypusher
    “In the Kansas case, Brown v. Board of Education, the plaintiffs are Negro children of elementary school age residing in Topeka.”

    That’s from the Supreme Court opinion. Which came in 1954 and said that school segregation was unconstitutional, not that you got to attend the nearest school. Don’t post easily-checked nonsense.

    Also, I don’t know what 1966 case you’re trying to cite, because it doesn’t exist.

    Skool zoning is institutional segregation.

    Think about it.

  258. @Keypusher
    Hi, Ed. I’ve been reading you for years, and I’ve learned a great deal from you.

    You wrote,

    “Four years later, in 1968, the elementary schools were integrated via busing, with the black children in the Berkeley “flats” traveling to the mostly white schools of the hills, and vice versa. Kamala Harris was in the second class of integrated elementary school students.”

    That was the “little truth” I had in mind.

    As for how this will all play out politically, obviously we disagree. You’re smarter and more knowledgeable than I am, I know.

    I don’t think this will hurt Biden the way some are predicting, but I also I think it will help Harris, not hurt her. Partly because I think the actual policies she’ll urge will be less drastic than the busing reference would indicate. One of the education reporters you linked to seemed to be hinting at that.

    “One of the education reporters you linked to seemed to be hinting at that.”

    That’s called “walking it back.”

    I’m not more knowledgeable on politics. But once again, what you seem not to be acknowledging, is that Harris was NOT the first integrated class in Berkeley. That happened over 100 years earlier.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'I’m not more knowledgeable on politics. But once again, what you seem not to be acknowledging, is that Harris was NOT the first integrated class in Berkeley. That happened over 100 years earlier.'

    Well of course schools had always been integrated in Berkeley. They were integrated when I started going to them in 1963. It was only bussing to achieve better integration that started in 1968.

    ...interestingly, I've got my aunt's old photo album from when she was going to school in Oakland in the 1920's. There are some decidedly dusky-looking classmates in those pictures of hers. The schools don't seem to have been segregated then.

    Somebody needs to invent a time machine so we can go back and tell those people. 'Hey: you're supposed to be rabidly racist. It's not 1968 yet; you stop that.'
  259. @Buzz Mohawk
    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate's stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.

    Why do we even bother to vote?

    Game theory question for the perfect SAT scorers out there: When you know nothing but information that has no guarantee of being true, or when there is no real data available (as with candidates who have no true positions, only ones that are stated for the benefit of voters) what is your best move?

    Is it best to make a choice, with no information, or is it best to make no choice at all?

    In the scheme of elections and your one vote out of many, is there any strategy at all?

    In other words, there is no reason for any voter to ever assume that a candidate’s stated positions at any given time are his true positions, if he even has any.

    Since this is the game that is played (and there is no reason to doubt your analysis) then it is practically guaranteed that whoever wins a nomination for high office is lying, and whichever nominee wins a general election is a complete phony.

    Politicians say what they need to say in order to win elections. Then they do anything they want with zero consequence.

    This is an incentives problem.

    Laws that would allow candidates to make “official promises” might correct that. Official Promises would be treated like contracts. If an elected official violated a promise he would be booted from office and/or suffer a financial penalty.

    Incentives matter.

  260. @International Jew
    Yep. What you're saying, basically, is that we're in a bad spot. It's bad enough that our best option is Trump.

    Trump’s not so bad. Don’t believe the hype.

  261. @Colin Wright
    'There’s no indication that Obama had any privileges at all until he sent out his college applications..."

    He did go to the elite private high school in the state. That's considerably more privileged than most of us.

    So you're wrong. There's evidence Obama had privileges before he sent out his college applications.

    He did go to the elite private high school in the state. That’s considerably more privileged than most of us.

    ‘Privilege’ as in ‘private law’. Attending schools like Punahou in that era didn’t require privilege. They required adequate test scores and cash. Given the population on Oahu at the time (700,000), the census of Punahou was astonishingly large for a private institution not run by the Catholic diocese or the religious orders, btw. I grew up in a burg of a similar size and only the very largest Catholic high school (run by the Society of Jesus) had a census in that range.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'Privilege’ as in ‘private law’. Attending schools like Punahou in that era didn’t require privilege. They required adequate test scores and cash...'

    Ah. Cash. Not privilege. I'm afraid the distinction escapes me.

    Currently, tuition at Punahou is $26,000.00 per student, per year. For most of us, chickenfeed.

  262. @Big Dick Bandit
    ......in fairness......it works pretty well (definitely much better than bussing black+latin kids into white schools).

    the Wake County Public School System was one of the best in the country for decades, and while it isn't all kumbaya--you still get lots of black kids who overwhelmingly hang out with black kids--there really is a much greater presence of black+latin students in AP/IB/"Gifted" classes than in other systems....while not compromising white/azn student outcomes.

    it's not perfect, but much better than other system.

    I disagree it’s working. The outcomes have been compromised for white kids, whose SAT scores are dropping as they learn nothing in the nongifted schools at all, and high school suffering gang violence, theft, rape and being dead from opiates are now common. Wake County public schools didn’t even add 20 kids last year, though the area added 8 new charters, private schools are full, and homeschoolers account for 10% of NC students. The indians and Chinese are holding the scores up and the spaces at the gifted schools, but those communities afterschool their kids up to decent standards.

  263. @Art Deco
    He did go to the elite private high school in the state. That’s considerably more privileged than most of us.

    'Privilege' as in 'private law'. Attending schools like Punahou in that era didn't require privilege. They required adequate test scores and cash. Given the population on Oahu at the time (700,000), the census of Punahou was astonishingly large for a private institution not run by the Catholic diocese or the religious orders, btw. I grew up in a burg of a similar size and only the very largest Catholic high school (run by the Society of Jesus) had a census in that range.

    ‘Privilege’ as in ‘private law’. Attending schools like Punahou in that era didn’t require privilege. They required adequate test scores and cash…’

    Ah. Cash. Not privilege. I’m afraid the distinction escapes me.

    Currently, tuition at Punahou is $26,000.00 per student, per year. For most of us, chickenfeed.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Ah. Cash. Not privilege. I’m afraid the distinction escapes me.

    Well, it shouldn't. The distinction is pretty clear. Purchases on the open market are not manifestations of privilege and neither is X having a higher income than Y.

    If Punahou's customary pricing, screening, and queuing, and discounting system was defied in order to admit someone for undisclosed reasons, that would be indicative of privilege. There's no indication that's the case.

    Madelyn Dunham was the daughter of a bookkeeper; her husband grew up in the home of his maternal grandfather, an oil-field worker. Both of them were from Butler County, Ks (population 35,000 in 1930). How provincial does your background get before you're no longer deemed 'privileged'?
  264. @Paul Jolliffe
    “Kamala Harris is on strained terms with her father. Recently, he published an annoyed statement scolding her for painting all Jamaicans as weed-smoking Rastafarians.”

    Did she, now?

    Well, if her father (presumably) objected to her use of the word “all”, then perhaps he could enlighten the rest of us as to what the true percentage might be (ie: “some”, “many”, “most”, “nearly all”, etc.)?

    ‘…Well, if her father (presumably) objected to her use of the word “all”, then perhaps he could enlighten the rest of us as to what the true percentage might be (ie: “some”, “many”, “most”, “nearly all”, etc.)?’

    Presumably he feels it only applies to the black ones, of course. Kamala’s father is obviously part of that quadroon elite you find on any Caribbean island.

    Poor Kamala kind of lost out. With a non-black mother, and a quarter-black father, she could have come out looking like Meghan Markle — not obviously black at all. The genetics kind of turn into a lottery at that point.

    …but she didn’t. Poor little critter came out looking distinctly black — and you can bet mother’s family didn’t like that.

    Hence that warped, evil soul.

  265. @MarkinLA
    On the other hand, what if she won?


    It would be so easy for the Senate to stifle her. However, they won't. The GOP will immediately use it as an excuse to give the Dems (and the GOP donors) everything they want.

    If a Democrat wins the White House it’s a cinch they’ll also carry the senate

  266. @education realist
    "One of the education reporters you linked to seemed to be hinting at that."

    That's called "walking it back."

    I'm not more knowledgeable on politics. But once again, what you seem not to be acknowledging, is that Harris was NOT the first integrated class in Berkeley. That happened over 100 years earlier.

    ‘I’m not more knowledgeable on politics. But once again, what you seem not to be acknowledging, is that Harris was NOT the first integrated class in Berkeley. That happened over 100 years earlier.’

    Well of course schools had always been integrated in Berkeley. They were integrated when I started going to them in 1963. It was only bussing to achieve better integration that started in 1968.

    …interestingly, I’ve got my aunt’s old photo album from when she was going to school in Oakland in the 1920’s. There are some decidedly dusky-looking classmates in those pictures of hers. The schools don’t seem to have been segregated then.

    Somebody needs to invent a time machine so we can go back and tell those people. ‘Hey: you’re supposed to be rabidly racist. It’s not 1968 yet; you stop that.’

  267. @Alden
    I think bussed meant kiss in Early Modern English

    Sorry, I wasn’t clear. When I said bussed looked funny, I meant that I recognized that it was a homonym to the past tense of to buss, a verb I am familiar with due to a childhood obsession with dictionaries and an 800 SAT verbal score.

    I wasn’t that big a reader so much as a reader of dictionaries, in the raw, page by page.

  268. @Colin Wright
    'Privilege’ as in ‘private law’. Attending schools like Punahou in that era didn’t require privilege. They required adequate test scores and cash...'

    Ah. Cash. Not privilege. I'm afraid the distinction escapes me.

    Currently, tuition at Punahou is $26,000.00 per student, per year. For most of us, chickenfeed.

    Ah. Cash. Not privilege. I’m afraid the distinction escapes me.

    Well, it shouldn’t. The distinction is pretty clear. Purchases on the open market are not manifestations of privilege and neither is X having a higher income than Y.

    If Punahou’s customary pricing, screening, and queuing, and discounting system was defied in order to admit someone for undisclosed reasons, that would be indicative of privilege. There’s no indication that’s the case.

    Madelyn Dunham was the daughter of a bookkeeper; her husband grew up in the home of his maternal grandfather, an oil-field worker. Both of them were from Butler County, Ks (population 35,000 in 1930). How provincial does your background get before you’re no longer deemed ‘privileged’?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'Well, it shouldn’t. The distinction is pretty clear. Purchases on the open market are not manifestations of privilege...'

    Then we have different definitions of privilege. As a child, Obama was able to have things ninety five percent of us could not have. He was privileged.
  269. Kamala’s father is obviously part of that quadroon elite you find on any Caribbean island.

    Really? Your census of elites may be found where?

  270. @Art Deco
    Ah. Cash. Not privilege. I’m afraid the distinction escapes me.

    Well, it shouldn't. The distinction is pretty clear. Purchases on the open market are not manifestations of privilege and neither is X having a higher income than Y.

    If Punahou's customary pricing, screening, and queuing, and discounting system was defied in order to admit someone for undisclosed reasons, that would be indicative of privilege. There's no indication that's the case.

    Madelyn Dunham was the daughter of a bookkeeper; her husband grew up in the home of his maternal grandfather, an oil-field worker. Both of them were from Butler County, Ks (population 35,000 in 1930). How provincial does your background get before you're no longer deemed 'privileged'?

    ‘Well, it shouldn’t. The distinction is pretty clear. Purchases on the open market are not manifestations of privilege…’

    Then we have different definitions of privilege. As a child, Obama was able to have things ninety five percent of us could not have. He was privileged.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    No, he was not. His family was affluent to a degree. There is no indication that Madelyn Dunham had any influence at all over anything but her own staff at the Bank of Hawaii. They could afford the tuition at Punahou because (1) they had only one kid to educate and (2) they lived in a condominium in a drab building wherein the units have a floor space between 500 and 1,000 sq ft.
  271. @Buzz Mohawk
    Talk like this of changing positions and election tactics brings back memories of college students talking more about grades and scores than about what they were actually learning. Many appeared to have no interest in the subject matter other than how it would effect their grades.

    This approach is soulless, and it is common enough that there should be a word for it. Is there? Sapir-Whorf demands one.

    Is there any legitimacy to candidates who do this? Does it serve some market value, like a corporation changing a product based on survey results? How often do politicians then take action once elected in response to what their election research discovered were the desires of the electorate?

    memories of college students talking more about grades and scores than about what they were actually learning. Many appeared to have no interest in the subject matter other than how it would affect their grades.

    My apologies for the previous answer. I was neck deep in that stuff for some time, and it shows.

    In more abstract terms, I think that the above is the result of a failed attempt to build commitment to a profession.

    Back in the 1960s engineering schools were difficult. One actually learned the fundamentals of most engineering disciplines — chemistry, physics, the strange way that materials act, the use of imaginary numbers in calculating inductance/capacitance/resistor networks, the strange way fluids have when going through pipes and nozzles, mechanical drawing (with pencils!), thermodynamics, feedback (sort of) and so on. All sorts of stuff, so that the engineer could react to unexpected behavior and not make too many blunders. Today the instruction is largely on a technician level, and engineers are obsolete in five years, supposedly.

    In the 1930s, supposedly, only about a third of the engineering students got through to a four-year degree. (“Look to your left, look to your right, only one out of three will graduate).

    If the company doesn’t innovate, then high levels of understanding. In fact, they tend to annoy management, which knows full well that it doesn’t have the money to actually innovate, or even to fix obvious flaws. Quite often today the company is filled with politically necessary deadwood (e.g. Google) that would be threatened by innovation.

    However, the old endurance tests are retained for the same reason that fraternity initiations used to be held. After going through that, one is reluctant to join some other organization and have to go through initiation again. It builds loyalty, or at least a reluctance to change. The Marines make basic difficult in part to build a fraternity like loyalty.

    The trouble is that the initiation doesn’t buy you entry into a fraternity. It buys you a position as a commodity in a market — no security. You’ve gene through the initiation and you are treated as a cranky child, and apt to be replaced by an H1B. The students know that, and aren’t willing to invest much to gain market entry.
    If you’re going to hae an initiation, your organization must be worth belonging to.
    So: Sapier-Whorf in management speak is “building committment”. In economics, it would be “large deposit”. In investment talk, “sunk investment”.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    In the 1930s, supposedly, only about a third of the engineering students got through to a four-year degree. (“Look to your left, look to your right, only one out of three will graduate).

    Which will tell you their screening procedures stank.
  272. @Colin Wright
    'Well, it shouldn’t. The distinction is pretty clear. Purchases on the open market are not manifestations of privilege...'

    Then we have different definitions of privilege. As a child, Obama was able to have things ninety five percent of us could not have. He was privileged.

    No, he was not. His family was affluent to a degree. There is no indication that Madelyn Dunham had any influence at all over anything but her own staff at the Bank of Hawaii. They could afford the tuition at Punahou because (1) they had only one kid to educate and (2) they lived in a condominium in a drab building wherein the units have a floor space between 500 and 1,000 sq ft.

  273. @Prester John
    A good read on the subject of busing is a book called "Common Ground" by the late J. Anthony Lukas which detailed the busing controversy in mid-Seventies Boston where black and white children were used as pawns in a social engineering chess game mediated by Federal Judge Arthur Garrity (of leafy Brookline, by the by). Few benefitted from busing, most got screwed over. But, hey, what's that bit about breaking a few eggs to make an omelette?

    If the goal of busing was, to finish the job of eradicating white ethnic neighborhoods from certain U.S. cities, then it was very effective. The 60s riots barely made a dent in Boston’s Irish and Italian Catholic neighborhoods but busing resulted in near total demographic replacement. Rhetorical question: who benefited?

  274. San Francisco Chronicle:

    Bad news for Democrats — none of these candidates can beat Trump

    Willie Brown
    June 29, 2019

    The first Democratic debates proved one thing: We still don’t have a candidate who can beat Donald Trump.

    California Sen. Kamala Harris got all the attention for playing prosecutor in chief, but her case against former Vice President Joe Biden boiled down in some ways to a ringing call for forced school busing. It won’t be too hard for Trump to knock that one out of the park in 2020.

    Biden did himself zero favors by telling Harris that he opposed only busing that was ordered by the federal government. It was a weird endorsement of states’ rights and local jurisdictions’ right to segregate schools. That’s the best argument he could marshal against busing little kids miles across town?

    • Replies: @BB753
    Willie Brown knows Kamala inside out. Literally.
  275. I seem to recall the demographics of the school system changed radically, the surrounding society less so The domestic black population is about 16% of the total and hispanics 25% of the total. Others are:

    Irish: 13.7%
    Italian: 9.5%
    English / Scottish: 5.6%
    German: 4.1%
    Sub-Saharan African, NOS: 3.6%
    Haitian: 3.0%
    French / French Canadian: 3.0%
    West Indian, NOS: 2.7%
    Polish: 2.4%
    Russian: 1.6%
    Arab: 1.5%
    Portuguese: 0.9%
    Greek: 0.8%

  276. @MEH 0910
    San Francisco Chronicle:

    Bad news for Democrats — none of these candidates can beat Trump

    Willie Brown
    June 29, 2019

    The first Democratic debates proved one thing: We still don’t have a candidate who can beat Donald Trump.

    California Sen. Kamala Harris got all the attention for playing prosecutor in chief, but her case against former Vice President Joe Biden boiled down in some ways to a ringing call for forced school busing. It won’t be too hard for Trump to knock that one out of the park in 2020.

    Biden did himself zero favors by telling Harris that he opposed only busing that was ordered by the federal government. It was a weird endorsement of states’ rights and local jurisdictions’ right to segregate schools. That’s the best argument he could marshal against busing little kids miles across town?
     
    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/20/41/45/4331874/11/premium_author_bio.jpg

    Willie Brown knows Kamala inside out. Literally.

  277. @MarkinLA
    Born Roberta Frances Horowitz


    Almost every single time.

    Fiedler and Weintraub were on our side (anti-busing).

  278. @Whiskey
    They figure White voters with kids don't matter. No enough of them and most White Dem voters are cat ladies or sluts or both.

    They are probably right.

    Spot on. You are pretty fine Whiskey.

    Bussing is an 100% repellent for white parents, but a virtue signalling opportunity for everyone else, including white non-parents (such as fresh university graduates).

  279. @Counterinsurgency

    memories of college students talking more about grades and scores than about what they were actually learning. Many appeared to have no interest in the subject matter other than how it would affect their grades.
     
    My apologies for the previous answer. I was neck deep in that stuff for some time, and it shows.

    In more abstract terms, I think that the above is the result of a failed attempt to build commitment to a profession.

    Back in the 1960s engineering schools were difficult. One actually learned the fundamentals of most engineering disciplines -- chemistry, physics, the strange way that materials act, the use of imaginary numbers in calculating inductance/capacitance/resistor networks, the strange way fluids have when going through pipes and nozzles, mechanical drawing (with pencils!), thermodynamics, feedback (sort of) and so on. All sorts of stuff, so that the engineer could react to unexpected behavior and not make too many blunders. Today the instruction is largely on a technician level, and engineers are obsolete in five years, supposedly.

    In the 1930s, supposedly, only about a third of the engineering students got through to a four-year degree. ("Look to your left, look to your right, only one out of three will graduate).

    If the company doesn't innovate, then high levels of understanding. In fact, they tend to annoy management, which knows full well that it doesn't have the money to actually innovate, or even to fix obvious flaws. Quite often today the company is filled with politically necessary deadwood (e.g. Google) that would be threatened by innovation.

    However, the old endurance tests are retained for the same reason that fraternity initiations used to be held. After going through that, one is reluctant to join some other organization and have to go through initiation again. It builds loyalty, or at least a reluctance to change. The Marines make basic difficult in part to build a fraternity like loyalty.

    The trouble is that the initiation doesn't buy you entry into a fraternity. It buys you a position as a commodity in a market -- no security. You've gene through the initiation and you are treated as a cranky child, and apt to be replaced by an H1B. The students know that, and aren't willing to invest much to gain market entry.
    If you’re going to hae an initiation, your organization must be worth belonging to.
    So: Sapier-Whorf in management speak is "building committment". In economics, it would be "large deposit". In investment talk, "sunk investment".

    Counterinsurgency

    In the 1930s, supposedly, only about a third of the engineering students got through to a four-year degree. (“Look to your left, look to your right, only one out of three will graduate).

    Which will tell you their screening procedures stank.

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