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From The Telegraph:

World must prepare for biological weapons that target ethnic groups based on genetics, says Cambridge University

Scientific advances have opened the door to a host of new threats
Sarah Knapton, science editor, 13 AUGUST 2019 • 12:01AM

Biological weapons could be built which target individuals in a specific ethnic group based on their DNA, a report by the University of Cambridge has warned.

Researchers from Cambridge’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk (CSER) said the government was failing to prepare for ‘human-driven catastrophic risks’ that could lead to mass harm and societal collapse.

In recent years advances in science such as genetic engineering, and artificial intelligence (AI) and autonomous vehicles have opened the door to a host of new threats.

Maybe.

I dunno, though … This idea of a Race Bomb has been kicking around for a long time. I can recall a discussion of the possibility back in the 1990s. It didn’t sound all that plausible then and I don’t think it’s gotten more plausible as we’ve learned more about how complex the workings of the human genome tend to be.

First, it’s worth keeping in mind that your genes did not evolve to kill you. That’s a big reason that our current Genome Era hasn’t seen the cornucopia of easy medical advances expected back during the Human Genome Project of 20 years ago.

Back during the Nixon Administration, they kicked around whether there were any conceivable situations in which there’d be some reason to use the various biological (i.e., reproductive) weapons that the U.S. had been developing rather than just nuke the enemy? Basic problems like blowback (you drop a bio-bomb of germs on the enemy and then the wind blows the germs onto your troops) seemed so daunting that the whole bioweapons research agenda started to seem kind of silly.

When Nixon ended offensive biological warfare research in 1969, the annual budget was up to $300 million, and it’s lucky there hadn’t been a major catastrophe.

Are there major racial differences that could be exploited by a monoracial power to infect enemies of other races? Off the top of my head, perhaps vivax malaria? Sub-Saharans mostly have a genetic variant that helps them fight off this moderately strong form of malaria. The anti-Duffy allele has less horrible side effects than the famous sickle cell mutation that fights the more deadly falciparum malaria, so it’s more widespread in some places where vivax malaria is endemic.

But the likelihood that, say, Nigeria will conquer, say, Japan by spreading anopheles mosquitoes around Tokyo is low on my list of worries.

The genetic variant for warding off vivax malaria has been known since the 1950s.

Some forms of malaria that are major problems in the tropics today probably were rare until, say, the spread of agriculture. The anopheles mosquito that spreads the falciparum and vivax types of malaria breeds in puddles of water in strong sunshine. It was likely not a massive problem in Africa until, say, the Bantu Expansion of a few thousand years ago led to deforestation to provide farmland.

So, the genetic variant in humans for fighting anopheles-spread malarias have had to evolve quickly, so they tend to be simple.

Into the early 21st Century, it was assumed that many more single genes of large effect were about to be discovered. But research into “candidate genes” didn’t usually pan out. Instead, in the 2010s, it was discovered instead that many traits are driven by the small effects of dozens or hundreds of genes. My guess is that most traits have been evolving for a long time, so they can work through complex interactions.

But the 2010’s understanding of the workings of the human genome doesn’t seem amenable to the development of Race Bombs.

But, don’t rely on me for technological advice.

 
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  1. J.Ross says:

    The idea that AIDS is the government killing black people (insofar as I understand it) depends on something that vaguely tracks with genetic complexity: anyone can die of AIDS, but certain people are much more likely to get it, and of those that have it, some are much more likely to die of it (unless they’re successful in sports and unsuccessful hosting a late night talk show).
    In other words, you can’t make a simple function “kill X,” but you can create predispositions and countermeasures.

  2. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    Basic problems like blowback (you drop a bio-bomb of germs on the enemy and then the wind blows the germs onto your troops)

    This is basically a description of WWI. For all the attention that is paid to chemical weopons, in the end they didn’t really work and didn’t play much of a part. However, and this may apply to bio weapons too, there was a fear factor and soldiers wore unconfortable, and largely ineffective, gas masks, which hindered their mobility.

    The tank technology of WWI was similarly Keystone-copsy, with tanks getting stuck or breaking down so much they hindered as much as helped.

    I suspect that the delivery vector for any race-specific weapon would end up having to be a syringe, at which point you’d just shoot the guy.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  3. Haole says:

    Immigration is a biological weapon aimed at certain genetic groups. Think about it.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @bomag
    , @AnotherDad
  4. In my opinion , most bigots here would like to drop ethnic bombs on Africans to prevent overpopulation. Don’t think about that.
    Bring our African brothers to the West, they can be successful entrepreneurs , rappers, entertainers and good fathers to children of White women.
    1. Trump the Nazi will lose as well.
    2. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is ripping it up and has republicans running scared.

    3. Deplatforming of right wingers continues to happen everyday.

    4. Most young people are People of Color

    5. Islam is growing and getting respect.

    6. Christian supremacy is getting criticized

    7. Most white people are old and dying off

    8. White birth rates are low

    9. White girls are increasingly having Children of Color with Men of Color

    10. Open borders immigration is about to be a reality

    Darn it feels good to be a progressive!

  5. Anon7 says:

    The Russians were on to this issue a dozen years ago:

    June 1, 2007: According to the source, the report thus characterizes the situation in the market for clinical trials: several large Western medical centers that receive shipments of biological materials from Russia are said to be involved in the development of “genetically engineered biological weapons” for use against the Russian population.

    The list of organizations purportedly working on the project includes the Harvard School of Public Health, the American International Health Alliance, the Environment and Natural Resources Division of the US Department of Justice, the Swedish Karolinska Institute and Agency for International Development, and the Indian Genome Institute.

    Kommersant’s source reported that the report contains a wealth of fantastical details about the development of “ethnically oriented” biological weapons capable of rendering Russia’s population sterile and even killing it off.

    At the time of this story, 28,000 Russian citizens were taking part in clinical studies by Western Big Pharma.

    When it comes to paranoia, the Russians take a back seat to nobody.

  6. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    I read recently of an FBI bust of a secret KKK research lab that was developing a hypergolic substance that would cause the heads of anyone with hair straightened with a lye-based relaxer to explode. They were going to spray it from drones and crop dusters over black neighborhoods. The only kink in the plan was that although it would wipe out almost all black women (and some Jews), it would not affect black men for the most part. The KKK initiated a separate project to pay black male internet influencers to promote a conked male hairstyle look. As a backup plan, a major KKK donor effected a hostile takeover of JR Cigars, with a plan to implant explosives in Swisher Sweets cigarillos. This led to the whole plot being exposed to law enforcement. The SPLC has a good writeup on this. Kevin Bacon is attached to a rumored HBO series.

  7. MBlanc46 says:

    Some folks are just obsessed with race.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @bomag
  8. Dan Hayes says:

    Steve,

    For quite some time we have been warned by the Nation of Islam that Governments and Big Pharma had worked in concert for the creation and spread of HIV.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  9. Whiskey says: • Website

    The Chinese are a good bet to develop a virus that kills all non Chinese. The Africans would like to as well as Latino and South Asian s.

    of course there is always the threat of a bio hacker pissed off by any White male stuff.

  10. I think the idea is not that the weapon takes advantage of a weakness specific to a particular race, but simply that it only activates on encountering genes peculiar to that race.

  11. Lagertha says:

    I dunno, Steve, this could be a totally boring comment: As I have said, I live with melanoma. There have been numerous articles these past 2 years that claim that sunscreen products lead to cancer. So, yeah, way to kill off white people: put crap in skin products. I knew this years ago, but it frustrates me that normies are clue-less. Here’s a thought: don’t go out in the sun until 4pm.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  12. Lagertha says:

    Also, besides my point of killing people with products that leach into their skin: there are more rapid ways to kill-off people like with vaccines that are trumpeted as necessary.

    Trust no one.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  13. Lagertha says:

    I am just super angry at the elites for being assholes – for, eff’s sake, live your effing life and leave the rest of us alone! Just leave us all alone – we do not need you, at all.

    OT…maybe not. Has anyone else seen the 3-5 articles how mosquitoes are gonna be a thing? I feel like our Drs Mengele are preparing us to die-off…and oops, we didn’t know those particular mosquitoes were death squad.

    Trust no one…absolutely no one.

  14. Three the Hard Way (1974)
    R | 1h 29min | Action, Thriller

    The story involves a white supremacist plot to taint the United States water supply with a toxin that is harmless to whites but lethal to blacks. The only obstacles that stand in the way of this dastardly plan are Jim Brown, Fred Williamson and Jim Kelly, who shoot, kick and karate chop their way to final victory.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  15. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:

    Are there major racial differences that could be exploited by a monoracial power to infect enemies of other races?

    Yes: Y-chromosomes. Y-haplogroups are the most ethno-specific gene patterns.

    • Replies: @Pater
  16. Kronos says:

    Hold up, your telling me the “N-Bomb” is entirely fictional?

    I remember reading in “The Andromeda Strain” that bioweapon research costs a lot of money and little reward. Also, the risk of a “Wildfire” incident is very high.

  17. Acilius says: • Website

    I don’t suppose we ever really found out whether the research projects that Dr Wouter Basson led in South Africa in the 80s involved attempts to develop bioweapons that would specifically target Bantu people, and if so how far those projects advanced.

  18. If I was into conspiracy theories, I’d suspect China had already unleashed something on us. Something that makes us fat and tattoo ourselves. It doesn’t seem to affect Chinese after all.

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @JimB
    , @AnotherDad
  19. Bill B. says:

    Don’t we already have McDo?

  20. newrouter says:

    Wasn’t “climate change” suppose to dat?

  21. HBD notwithstanding, we really are all too close genetically for this to be a reality.

  22. Anon2020 says:

    Sounds like something only a certain tribe would do, a tribe known for using their smarts to do evil rather than good throughout history.

    If you can make genes that kill people based on race, why not make genes that will make them smarter, kinder, more industrious, humorous or honest? But that’s not how that tribe thinks. They think only of warmongering and total domination.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    , @J.Ross
  23. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:

    @4

    Yes, they did. It’s called easy credit.

  24. Since well after the 1990s, the cost of whole genome sequencing has plummeted, faster than linear, on a log scale against linear time. See this comparison with Moore’s Law. It’s only recently bottomed out at $1000.

    There are Crispr Cas9 gene editing kits for under $1000.

    The mixing of male populations “peacefully” is in abject denial of male behavior across species.

    The Y-Chromosome is the most geographically structured across species.

    The Y-Chromosome of a specific ethnic group can be debilitated with a stealth pathogen.

    Indeed, this may already have been done given trends in sperm counts and testosterone levels. Has anyone tried doing an epidemiological study by Y-haplogroup? If they found a correlation, would they dare talk about it — especially if white males were among the apparent targets? What if the Cohanim were not affected? Would they be likely to talk about that?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  25. JimB says:

    HIV is a race bomb. It annihilates sexually promiscuous men and women with low impulse control and lacking future orientation.

  26. Bruce says:

    David Drake, Janet Morris, Kill Ratio, evil Afrikaan plot to kill blacks with tailored virus. Probably as possible then as now- Peter Medawar once mention the gaps in biotech due to a shortage of Bond villains.

  27. Roger says: • Website

    If you follow Netflix Designated Survivor to the end, the White House turns out to be not so virtuous. The more annoying ones get killed off, and the others are all corrupted. The president wins re-election by framing his Republican opponent as plotting an engineered virus that is harmless to whites, and sterilizes non-whites.

  28. Bonner Tal says: • Website

    When Crispr/CAS9 first hit the headlines, I thought about the possibility of ethnically targeted bioweapons. Crispr copy-pastes a DNA-string into a specific place in the genome, so I thought that you could specify target sequences that are unique to one ethnic group and load the mechanism with the rabies-virus or something.

    If you could make that contagious it would be really nasty, because rabies also has an incubation period of three weeks. So it would spread through the population and only three weeks later does the deadly part of the illness set in.

    I wanted to write a blogpost about it but as I read more about Crispr, I realized the idea doesn’t work on many levels. Crispr doesn’t really copy-paste, it cuts and hopes that the DNA-string basically drops into the gap. There are off-target effects so the weapon would probably affect everybody at least somewhat and rabies is really, really deadly, so being somewhat affected probably means dead. And I don’t think there is a mechanism to make it contagious.

    • Replies: @Drapetomaniac
  29. Tusk says:

    How can race weapons exist if race doesn’t exist?

    • Replies: @95Theses
    , @dearieme
  30. I remember a science fiction book that I read circa 2010 where the premise involved a mosquito-transmissible virus that was lethal to blacks but relatively benign to whites. It made for a good thriller-type story, but alas I can’t recall the title.

  31. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:

    In fact, the ‘race bomb’ *does* exist – and is efficient and effective to an unheard of degree.
    Like the very best weapons it is silent and deadly (rather like Bryan Caplan’s verbal flatulence). Silent and deadly and 100% effective – simply can’t be beaten by any of the ‘gross’ systems which involve the open theater of mangling human bodies. So subtle, in fact, that the multitudes whom it is targeting are completely unawares of its existence, let alone virulence.
    Of course – and this goes without saying – it is targeted at whites, (those of European descent), and *only* whites. It has the full knowledge and support of the world’s political elites, who have come to worship and fetishize this agent of ultimate power and ultimate doom – rather like the Molemen in the Planet of the Apes – although this particular Armageddon device is far far more potent and deadly than mere atomic trickery.

    The race weapon is, of course, The Economist magazine.

  32. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @MBlanc46

    You might not be interested in ‘race’, but race is interested in you.

  33. eah says:

    “World Must Prepare for Biological Weapons Racist Tweets That Target Ethnic Groups Based on Genetics Their Observed Behavior”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  34. JimB says:
    @International Jew

    Plenty of fat Chinese, now! And the national waistline is growing apace. Only the Japanese have accomplished prosperity without obesity, sumo wrestlers aside.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  35. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    The boffins at the “Center for the Study of Existential Risk” seem broad but shallow in their expertise, or as they dub it, “interdisciplinary.” They are all over the map with warnings about inadvertent black holes from linear accelerators, AI running amok inside industrial controls and Bhopaling the world, alien invasions, climate change, giant meteors, nuclear apocalypse, and killer GMO okra.

    Case in point: Elon Musk is on the board of advisors. As is Peter Singer.

    Their staff is chock full of anthropologists, economists, philosophers, cosmologists (is that a job that pays the rent?), lawyers, and whatnot. The “research associates” seem to be twenty-something grad students looking to bonk other international students. The whole outfit seems like a sort of clickbait factory designed to attract grant money.

    So when they say that “We must prepare for race-targeted bioweapons,” you can translate that into “I read this scary sci-fi book about race-targeted bioweapons and we decided to add it to our list of catastrophies,” not “We have looked closely at this and have identified seven single nucleotide polymorphisms in Africans that make them susceptible to aerosol-vectored delivery of CRISPR cancer precursors if technology advances a little more.”

    • Agree: El Dato
  36. Lot says:

    I worry if Marine Le Pen wins and mandates pork in school lunches (some FN small town mayors have done this), a brilliant Malian scientist will respond by spreading a porcine superbug, forcing the French to feed their children goatmeat and Kennedy Fried Chicken.

    “Don’t let them hurt me, I want to grow up and give you delicious ham and bacon!”

  37. Cortes says:

    There was an intriguing story going around a couple of years ago:

    https://off-guardian.org/2017/11/03/why-is-the-us-air-force-collecting-samples-of-russian-dna/

    If not a spoof then no doubt it was part of a humanitarian project.

  38. @Harry Baldwin

    Yep. They’ve only been at this for six or seven decades now.

  39. @JimB

    And their unwitting partners and children, too. Great plan.

  40. Whitehall says:

    Heinlein, as usual, was way ahead but he postulated the development of tuned “rays” that did in the Asian invaders but was harmless to whites (“Sixth Column,” 1949.)

    I remember lying in bed sick as a dog with a very bad flu and reading about a supposed Soviet advance in germ warfare where they inserted the gene for cobra venom into a common flu virus.

    Sounded plausible at the time and under the circumstances.

  41. Lot says:

    We have biological weapons against agricultural pests. Years ago I purchased a virus against something I had in my yard from Amazon. I don’t remember what. It came as an expensive yellow liquid and was effective. It was targeted toward organic farmers since I guess a virus isn’t a chemical insecticide so is OK.

    We don’t have anything like this for rats or gophers though despite a potential billions in sales. Monsanto probably looked into this and concluded a virus that targets any sort of mammal is too risky to develop.

    Here’s a company that sells a virus that kills coddling moths.

    https://www.certisusa.com/pest_management_products/insecticidal_viruses/cyd-x_biological_insecticide

    • Replies: @El Dato
  42. @Lot

    African Swine Fever. Currently devastating herds across Asia. No vaccine, no cure.

  43. OT-

    Stephen Colbert and Anderson Cooper discuss the Emotional Constitution We All Share and the desecration of the holy script of Emma Lazarus by the Trump Administration.

    • Replies: @95Theses
  44. Lot says:

    OT – Bloomberg: Trump’s tariffs are a huge success at causing manufacturing to move out of China, India’s trade restrictions are also working well.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-14/the-world-s-gadget-makers-are-splitting-along-u-s-chinese-lines

    I am so excited for the final blow when we hit them with a 10% minimum tariff across the board.

    We don’t need their plastic Communist anti-Western crud anyway. Turns out Vietnam can sweatshop too, and they like us!

  45. El Dato says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Conspiracy theories don’t get much more stupid though.

    Sovunion said it was the CIA.

    > HIV built
    > At a time when the science to even describe how HIV works hadn’t been invented yet

  46. El Dato says:
    @Lot

    Yeah, but that’s just bioweapons against another genus entirely.

    Something aliens might employ if they want to take over Earth.

  47. Dissident says:
    @JimB

    HIV is a race bomb. It annihilates sexually promiscuous men and women with low impulse control and lacking future orientation.

    Is HIV more racist or more homophobic?

    From the CDC web site:

    In 2016, gay and bisexual men accounted for 67% of the 40,324 new HIV diagnoses in the United States and 6 dependent areas.

    What percentage of the total population-in-question do “gay and bisexual men” total?

    • Replies: @Travis
    , @JimB
  48. World must prepare for biological weapons that target ethnic groups based on genetics

    How exactly does one “prepare” for such things? Encrypt your DNA? Remove it completely and store it in the cloud? Get a “race-ectomy”? Wish real, real hard?

    Centre for the Study of Existential Risk

    Are they engaged in the study of the terrible boredom possible for someone watching a performance of No Exit?

  49. hoekomsa says:

    The South African Government looked at possible biological racial warfare in the 1980’s.

    With the technology availlable at the time their conclusion was that there was not enough difference to make it viable. That is the cost would be too high. For instance the smallpox epidemic in the cape in the early 1700’s killed 98%+ of the Hottentots/Bushman (or KhoiSan if you are PC) but it also killed about 30% of the Dutch at the time.

    What they busy doing however was planning to spread the the use of Ectasy among the black population to keep the revolutionary spirit drugged. When De Klerk came to power thes plans were dropped, and the company I worked for purchased the Company (DeltaG) that was involved in the manufacture of ectasy.

    • Replies: @utu
  50. Knowing our Diversity-Academic-Military complex, they’re already working on one that operates on white-folk.

  51. RobUK says:

    Surely this is impossible as race is a social construct? All you have to do is say “I identify as X” after the air raid siren goes off and bingo!

  52. @JimB

    https://www.advocate.com/hiv/2016/2/23/study-half-black-gay-men-will-test-hiv-positive

    Fortunately, it wasn’t “half of black men”.

    African-Americans continue to be the most at-risk racial group — one in 20 men and one in 48 women will have HIV in their lifetime.

    Counterinsurgency

  53. 95Theses says:
    @Tusk

    It doesn’t. So there’s no need to worry about it.

  54. 95Theses says:
    @Clifford Brown

    One of the most fraudulent human beings walking the planet. Make that two.

  55. @Lot

    We don’t need their plastic Communist anti-Western crud anyway. Turns out Vietnam can sweatshop too, and they like us!

    They like themselves.

    Counterinsurgency

  56. 95Theses says:
    @Lot

    Is this supposed to be a trick picture puzzle?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  57. This idea of a Race Bomb has been kicking around for a long time.

    At least since 1941….

    • Replies: @David
    , @Counterinsurgency
  58. At a guess, biological weapons might be able to reproduce the effect of European diseases on indigenous inhabitants of the Americas in the 1600s. Encyclopedia Britannica has what appears to be a reasonable survey of disease effects on this group:
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Native-American/Native-American-history
    As expected, reconstructed events vary and (judging from date) at times correlate with political beliefs. However, the “general consensus” looks at least plausible:

    Most common, however, is a middle position that acknowledges that demographic models of 15th-century Native America must be treated with caution, while also accepting that the direct and indirect effects of the European conquest included extraordinary levels of indigenous mortality not only from introduced diseases but also from battles, slave raids, and—for those displaced by these events—starvation and exposure.

    [1]

    but

    A third group suggests that Dobyns’s estimates may be too low because they do not account for pre-Columbian contact between Native Americans and Europeans. This group notes that severe epidemics of European diseases may have begun in North America in the late 10th or early 11th century, when the Norse briefly settled a region they called Vinland. The L’Anse aux Meadows site (on the island of Newfoundland), the archaeological remains of a small settlement, confirms the Norse presence in North America about 1000 ce. Given that sagas attest to an epidemic that struck Erik the Red’s colony in Greenland at about the same time, the possibility that native peoples suffered from introduced diseases well before Columbian landfall must be considered.

    What this suggests is that future ethnic bioweapons could be effective, but only if coupled with other forms of attack and subsequent occupation by another group. “Resilience” means that the survivors rebuild (over long time intervals if mortality is, say, 90%) unless the weakened survivors are displaced by another group. One could think of them as a much lower cost and more effective variant on strategic bombing, a variant that would, if effective at all, eventually spread to the entire world.

    Now, actually constructing such a thing in such a way that it would not mutate and attack all H. Sap (or maybe all primates), that would be difficult. The European diseases didn’t affect Europeans so much because _the Europeans had an effective immune system, developed after very bad mortality in several plagues and trained since childhood_. Immunity to a bioweapon, OTH, would be from immunizations or from lack of some specific gene or chemical. If the bioweapon is persistent, the immunizations would have to be continued indefinitely. If the bioweapon is inhibited by some specific gene or gene set, there would be strong incentive for the bioweapon organisms to lose the inhibition through mutation, with a good chance that they would retain their lethality.

    So: race specific bioweapons would give an advantage to an attacker who could follow up with massive settlement, but at very large risk. Not many large attackers would find this of interest under present circumstances.

    Summary: As of now, not attractive to anybody. Given a change in global conditions (e.g. the US stops guarding the sea lanes) or the reduction of bioweapons development cost to a level that, say, Soros could afford, this conclusion might change.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] https://www.britannica.com/topic/Native-American/Native-American-history

    • Replies: @anonymous
  59. @Oleaginous Outrager

    How exactly does one “prepare” for such things?

    Vernor Vinge’s last novel, _Rainbows End_ (note that “Rainbows” is not the possessive, it’s the plural) concerns a society that is an exaggeration of Silicon Valley futurism c.a. AD 2000. In it, assorted WMD and various bioweapons have become cheap enough to be deployed by small organizations [1]. This is countered by a surveillance state (sound familiar?) and by increasingly subtle attacks. The book opens with the observation that no major city had been lost for about half a decade, and there is reference to a relative who visited Chicago on the wrong weekend and was killed along with everybody else in Chicago. The society could not stop technical progress, as it was assumed that technological rivalry would persist, driven in part by Moore’s Law (which still seems to be holding, BTW, it’s just that programming hasn’t caught up with it), space travel had been made impossible by “the Americans’ Space Denial Initiative” [2], and was in a probably losing battle to maintain itself.

    Vinge was (and still is) a well known futurist, and the proposal for “taking care” of the population by constant CDC monitoring of microbial population, supplemented by isolation and ring immunization using rapidly synthesized drugs, is the only one I’ve seen that might work.

    Of course, the way things are going that response is beyond anybody’s reach.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] An exaggeration of the Tokyo Sarin attacks:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin_gas_attack_on_the_Tokyo_subway

    2] A reference to Strategic Defense Initiative (also “SDI”).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative
    The SDI plan to destroy incoming IBM with orbiting “smart rocks” and the like would have (if ever used on a massive scale) contaminated near earth space with enough debris to be a serious hazard, perhaps enough to make low earth orbital assets uneconomic and trans-orbital manned flight prohibitively risky.

    • Agree: jim jones
  60. Altai says:

    OT: But somebody found an author who understands ethnic displacement when it happens in Kashmir but not in his own country.

    https://www.amren.com/commentary/2019/08/kashmir-suddenly-the-left-understands-the-great-replacement/

    Good news! It’s not a “conspiracy theory” anymore. The media finally understand that government policies affect demographics and that demography matters.

    The Indian-controlled portion of Kashmir, known as Jammu and Kashmir (J&K), is the only majority-Muslim state in Hindu India. When India became independent in 1947, Article 370 of its constitution granted special rights to J&K so that it could maintain a Muslim majority.

    On August 5, India revoked Article 370, to the dismay of most American media. Hindus, they warned, might take over!

    Vox’s Alex Ward, for example, noted that Article 375 barred people outside the state from buying property, and was written to “prevent India’s majority-Hindu population from moving into Jammu and Kashmir and displacing the Muslims who live there.” Mr. Ward warned there could be “ethnic cleansing.” In another piece, Mr. Ward wrote that some believe “Hindus will flock to the region to push out the Muslims once and for all.”

    Suggesting that loss of local population control could lead to “ethnic cleansing” sounds like an unhinged conspiracy theory. Mr. Ward himself, in a piece praising Pete Buttigieg’s plan to combat “white extremism,” said the idea “that white people are being replaced” is a “white nationalist” idea promoted by murderers such as the Christchurch shooter.

    What’s wrong with revoking Article 370? Shouldn’t all Indians be able to buy property in their own country? Preventing “outsiders” from buying property sounds like restrictive covenants to me.

    Mr. Ward or some “extremism expert” should tell the Muslim Kashmiris that there is no “us” or “them,” and that diversity will soon be their greatest strength.

    Mr. Ward warns that Pakistan might intervene to maintain the status quo. Is he implying Muslims in Indian Kashmir might have dual loyalties and want the protection of a foreign country?

    Even the New York Times now understands the great replacement:

    Human rights activists said that the moves to change Kashmir’s status were only the first steps in a broader plan to erode Kashmir’s core rights and seed the area with non-Kashmiris, altering the demographics and eventually destroying its character.

    The human rights group American Renaissance has made the same argument about the United States for decades.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  61. @Altai

    Kashmir is potentially a really nice piece of real estate, with a mild climate due to elevation and spectacular scenery. I could imagine Mumbai millionaires gentrifying the place.

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @JimB
  62. Bruno says:

    1) Is there in history an example of white people accepting to be submitted to non whites ?

    In Spain, Arabs and Mogrhebi were white people, even if they are probably mixed race, but the situation was not accepted by whites (Don Pelayo, hammer of the muslims)

    2) does asian people have used genocide against other races ever ? I don’t see clear examples .

    —->

    So if history is a teacher, it’s white lato sensu, including Semitic people, who are most likely to use those arms against other races …

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    , @Logan
  63. @Anon

    The Khmer Rouge genocided bookish people by taking anybody who needed glasses and beating them to death with shovels. The Hutus chopped up tall people with machetes. When it comes to carrying out genocidal war crimes, Keep It Simple Stupid seems like an effective motto.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Lot
  64. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @JimB

    That’s not true at all. South Korea has an obesity rate that is almost as low as Japan’s.

  65. Tiny Duck says:
    @M Krauthammar

    I agree

    white supremacy s about to eliminated with extreme prejudice

    • Replies: @tyrone
    , @MEH 0910
  66. A stealth weapon that depressed birth rates in the targeted group over a long term would be neat.

    It seems to exist, reading this Guardian thread on the retreating glaciers (a real phenomenon in both Iceland and the Alps)

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/14/glaciers-iceland-country-loss-plaque-climate-crisis

    “I am slowly evolving into a misanthrope and that perturbs me greatly. I look at friends and family who call me up telling me they are pregnant with their second or third or fourth child and my stomach contracts and I find myself falsely telling them ‘how wonderful’. This feeling of helplessness is permeating throughout my thoughts….”

    “having a child at this point in time is the height of narcissism. Committing a child to the future we have in store, is the ultimate act of ignorance and cruelty”

    “a friend of mine recently announced that they are expecting their third child. My wife and I’s immediate reaction was ‘oh, for God’s sake’. I know a lot of people love children, I just wish they would think without emotion about their actions.”

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @Corvinus
  67. The Sacklers seem to have decided that chemical warfare is the most effective.

  68. When Chinese researchers used CRISPR to engineer a baby resistant to HIV, they did it by deleting a receptor used by HIV to enter cells. That receptor happens to be the same receptor the CRISPR vector uses to enter cells. This isn’t coincidence. The CRISPR vectors developed for human therapies are derived from lentiviruses, the family of viruses that includes HIV. Lentiviral vectors are made from HIV by deleting the pathogenic genes and retaining the packaging and infection genes. (Researchers downplay the origins of their therapeutic vectors because patients might be reluctant to sign up for a treatment that involves getting infected with an HIV-derived viral vector.)

    Thus, Chinese researchers engineered a baby that is resistant to CRISPR genetic engineering. What if resistance to CRISPR engineering wasn’t a by product but the true purpose of the research? Think about that in the context of this article. Ie, imagine if one colony of bacteria on a petri dish made itself resistant to a new antibiotic and then released the antibiotic into the growth media.

    I think my logic is right here but if not, please let me know where the gaps are. I left out the complication that particular vectors have preferences for which cell types they infect. But this and other complications would be minimized if the same lab was working on both the disease and the mechanism of resistance simultaneously.

    • Replies: @Eternally Antifascist
  69. Dissident says:
    @Lot

    Opposing Muslim immigration into Western nations? Perfectly reasonable.

    Recognizing the threat posed by Islamist terrorism and taking prudent precautions against it? Perfectly reasonable, prudent and even obligatory.

    Insulting and attacking Muslims and Islam, per se? Unreasonable, ugly, gratuitous, tendentious and, often at least, downright ignorant (self-styled expert on Islam Robert Spencer, for example, appears to not even know Arabic)

    Ignoring legitimate Muslim and Arab grievances against both the Zionist State and the United States of America? Unreasonable and perilous. Denying said grievances? Neither reasonable nor just.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Disagree: Lot
    • Replies: @bomag
    , @More R1b, Less H1B
  70. @Lot

    Twelve Monkeys & Babe…

    It won’t end well.

  71. Sean says:

    Such weapons are theoretically possible, but are several generations away. For race targeted bio warfare to be feasible in the near future some kind of super (ie artificial) intelligence would have to devise it for humans.

    Handy for Colonel Green

    https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_Green
    He was noted as being active during the Eugenics Wars
    Phillip Green also ran military operations that led to genocide in Africa, Asia and South America. (Last Unicorn RPG module: Star Trek: The Next Generation Core Game Book)

    In 2052, Green ran for President of the United States of America; however, he ended up losing. The following year saw Green and his people launch nuclear and biological attacks that are believe to have begun World War III. (Last Unicorn RPG modules: All Our Yesterdays: The Time Travel Sourcebook, Star Trek: The Next Generation Core Game Book)

    “In the shadow of this incalculable devastation, we find ourselves facing a colossal challenge. There’s an entire world to rebuild. Not only our cities and homes, but mankind itself. Now is not the time for timidity and second-guessing. We cannot afford to doubt ourselves. Unless we act decisively, we pass on the scars of mutation and decay to future generations. For the sake of our children, and our children’s children, we must reject the impure and cast it out!” – Speech by Colonel Green, 2055

    In 2056, Green gave another, similar speech in the radioactive ruins of Washington, DC, enclosed in a protective bubble, where he ordered the establishment of the World Medical Organization, among whose goals would be the enforcement of Green’s genocidal eugenics policies. (ST reference: Federation: The First 150 Years)

    Cambridge’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk has been the main academic institute warning about the danger of an AIpocalype for all humanity. I think they are trying to bring it back to more politically sexy issues such as race war between human groups which is a trope of science fiction.

    Physicist Dave has some fairly good technical arguments against strong AI ever being feasible. Maybe the whole Existential Risk thing is just a cover for global humanism by minds that consider themselves immeasurably greater than our own.

    The political targeting of low IQ people by high IQ people using accusations of racism is highly effective. It strikes me that a low IQ targeted bio weapon might come in handy for our elites; other counties and races are not the elite’s most dangerous enemy.

  72. Arguments about the lack of strategic value to nation-states are not really addressing the issue. Nor are arguments about a virus or germ not being specific enough that it would get some of the perp’s population.

    The main threat will not come from nations, it will come from non-state actors, possibly even individuals. Nor will humans necessarily be the targets. How many people could one starve by targeting wheat or rice? I’ve always been surprised that terrorists did not release UG99 into the US back when that would have been effective.

    Sir Martin Rees:

    My worst nightmare involves some fanatic somewhere who thinks that the world has too many human beings. Such a person would have no compunction about releasing some kind of pathogen. And this is the kind of thing that could be done by someone with access to a laboratory. It’s nothing very special. It’s not like making an atomic bomb, where you need large conspicuous facilities.

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/martin-rees-on-the-future-of-science-and-humanity-20181205/

  73. tyrone says:
    @Tiny Duck

    I used to play that game too……..a sock puppet on each hand …..good times….just prattling away….nonsense of course …..when I was five

  74. Altai says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It’s also very poor, so lots of cheap land. Be interesting to see what effect diaspora Indian billionaires have, will it become their West Bank.

  75. tyrone says:
    @Lot

    “a brilliant malian scientist” stop it man ,you’re cracking me up

  76. peterike says:

    But the 2010’s understanding of the workings of the human genome doesn’t seem amenable to the development of Race Bombs.

    Don’t worry. A select team of Grievance Studies majors at Oberlin are busily working on a Social Construct Bomb.

  77. It is my understanding that most important US intellectuals are concerned with the welfare of beautiful black bodies. Imagine a genetic weapon that would deprive US of its most treasured!

    Also, Putirdoganterte is a racist, as proven by the occasional ironies pointed at Soros. I can see him just doing that.

    What’s most amazing is that Western state-paid “journalists” seem more balance than some of the “independent” ones. Ceausescu had pay a lot for a handful of ineffective sycophants, but Western propagandists can do it for much longer, for so fewer $$$!

  78. @Oleaginous Outrager

    How exactly does one “prepare” for such things?

    Mostly by preparing defenses like the ability to develop vaccines and treatments rapidly. People are hard at work on this.

    This is why I argue that if (when) it happens most of the dying will occur in lesser developed places where the vaccines cannot reach in time or in crowded places where the disease travels fastest.

  79. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Lest you missed it, the Japanese emperor today has issued yet another in the never-ending stream of WWII apologies from Japan for WWII (a commenter here the other day seemed to be completely unaware of Japan’s apologies):

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/08/15/national/emperor-naruhito-follows-fathers-lead-expressing-deep-remorse-world-war-ii-annual-memorial-service/#.XVVO-i97EUE

    Check the Wikipedia page for some other highlights:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

    The New York Times did a roundup a few years ago:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/13/world/asia/japan-ww2-shinzo-abe.html

  80. IQ bomb? Irrationality/delusionalism bomb? (Or at least vaccine?)

  81. @M Krauthammar

    Yes but being a white progressive won’t save you from being sent to the camps.

    • Agree: 95Theses
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Jim Don Bob
  82. bomag says:
    @Haole

    Immigration is a biological weapon aimed at certain genetic groups.

    Highlights that social policy is a form of bio warfare.

    In the past, immigration selected for the smart and industrious.

    Now it selects for those able to grift the welfare state, while the smart and industrious are discouraged from having children. I suspect one consequence is that prison guards sleep more on the job than they used to.

  83. Basic problems like blowback (you drop a bio-bomb of germs on the enemy and then the wind blows the germs onto your troops) seemed so daunting that the whole bioweapons research agenda started to seem kind of silly.

    This was the gist of Omega Man with Charlton Heston, filmed during his dystopian future movie phase.

  84. RobUK says:

    Kommersant’s source reported that the report contains a wealth of fantastical details about the development of “ethnically oriented” biological weapons capable of rendering Russia’s population sterile and even killing it off.

    No, no, they were “ethically oriented”. It was part of their Progressive program to make ethical biological weapons, ones that would only kill people they don’t like, such as conservatives, men, readers of the New York Post, etc.

  85. bomag says:
    @M Krauthammar

    bigots here would like to drop ethnic bombs on Africans to prevent overpopulation

    You think and worry about this stuff more than anyone here.

    You hope we can solve these problems for you.

  86. bomag says:
    @MBlanc46

    Especially those who tell us that it doesn’t matter.

  87. David says:
    @Autochthon

    When Agamemnon won’t ransom the priest of Apollo’s daughter, Apollo sends a plague on the Greeks’ camp that first kills dogs and mules and eventually the men.

  88. A more effective hypothetical means of biowarfare would be to develop a new virus, and simultaneously develop the vaccine. Give the vaccine to one’s own country’s population , and then deploy the pathogen on an enemy state. Granted, they might develop a vaccine too, but how long would it take to recognize the epidemic, develop their own vaccine, and then inoculate their populace?

  89. “Your genes didnt evolve to kill you…”

    See “aptosis”. They don’t kill all of you, all at once.

  90. There was some speculation that The SARS outbreak back in the 2000s was in fact a “race bomb” virus engineered to target East Asians. There were several cases in Canada at the time as well, and conspiracy theorists claimed that every single one of those infected in Canada were also East Asian as well – a fact that was kept under wraps by the media. I think that might have been disproven, but I’m not 100% sure.

  91. dr kill says:
    @Lot

    That pose, that scream, those teeth!!1!! Remember when Islamic Rage Boy was a thing? i’m getting old.

  92. Didn’t many blacks use to believe that AIDS was created by the feds to wipe out blacks?

    But hey – if gay is the new black, instead of calling it AIDS, shouldn’t we call it thickle thell anemia?

  93. nebulafox says:
    @Lot

    China has had it’s own version of the Rust Belt for a while, and even in Shenzhen, bosses are moving all their jobs to Vietnam and Indonesia. I don’t doubt that the trade policies from the US exacerbates things, but it would be a mistake to think this is all due to Trump-its been going for a while before him.

    The main cause is profit, as usual. If you believe the bosses, Chinese kids now demand too high wages for their liking, and spend too much time looking at their damn phones. According to them, Vietnamese and Indonesian young people have the “work ethic” (read, willingness to tolerate no potty breaks and uber-cheap wages) of Chinese youths 20 years ago. Some things never change.

    China’s basic idea to re-employ working class guys whose jobs have been outsourced is mass investment on high speed rail and nuclear plants and other cool stuff, which creates the jobs. Whether this will work in the face of China’s increasing problems in the 2030s is up for debate, but it has a better shot than what we tried in the 1990s and 2000s, I’ll give them that.

  94. Travis says:
    @Dissident

    Blacks represent most of the new HIV cases each year.
    https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics

    Blacks accounted for 43% (16,694) of HIV diagnoses in 2017
    Hispanics accounted for 26% (9,908) of HIV diagnoses in 2017
    Whites accounted for 25% of the new HIV cases in 2017

    Blacks accounted for 41% (9,800) of new HIV cases among Gays
    Latinos accounted for 33% (8,300) of new HIV cases among Gays
    Whites accounted for 27% (6,700) of new HIV cases among Gays

  95. It is a classic theme & it boils down to: how to get rid of numerous non-white populations, especially Africans, without macabre bloodshed. Is it possible? Who would do it?

    I think we can easily discard two possibilities:

    * crazy genius with his private lab. No, this has to be something like Manhattan project; no individuals, even big pharma could not do it

    * forget about classic spraying or anything similar to gas warfare WW 1 type

    Is it doable at all? In my opinion: 80% no, 20% yes. But, even if possible with some complex future discoveries, it wouldn’t sit well with the rest of the world, even inimical side. There is something repulsive about genocide – if masses are not whipped into frenzy of hatred & fear.

    So, I’d say more realistic way is to psychologically manipulate the masses so they naturally feel & act. We have to exterminate those bastards. It’s either we or them. Better finish them forever.

    And then apply some weapons that would kill, say, 300-500 million in 2-3 hours, but not classical nuclear weapons that would make those places uninhabitable. Truly new technologies for mass destruction, but not old-style nukes, nor something painfully slow.

  96. JimB says:
    @Steve Sailer

    And Led Zeppelin wrote a song about it.

  97. JimB says:
    @Dissident

    Some African countries have HIV rates of 25% and rising.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  98. Another factor makint a “super-bug” unlikely is that human pathogens have evolved along with humans and are fairly well-adapted to infecting the host and using the host to transfer to other hosts. Add to this is the fact that pathogens tend to mutate to less-virulent varities; the pathogen has no interest in killing the host outright, thus less-virulent forms tend to crowd out more virulent forms.

    But natural contagion (on the order of the 1918 influenza pandemic) could still be an awful event and I question whether public health authorities are prepared to cope. A natural epidemic that affected various races differently could have disastrous societal consequences in a racially-diverse society.

  99. Alfa158 says:
    @M Krauthammar

    Nice effort Mike, but you missed throwing in a few misspellings and malapropisms to get the true Tiny Duck parody of brain-dead Leftist POC’s. Notice that TD shows you how it’s done in his reply to your comment.

  100. It’d be much simpler to just target fried chicken.

  101. anonymous[380] • Disclaimer says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Bioscientist here, a dozen years away from the bench. My specialty was never bioweapons, thank God, but I know enough to offer a qualified opinion on the topic of the OP.

    Counterinsurgency’s comment is the most on point, so far.

    Steve’s take is, unfortunately, too sanguine. Ethnic-based bioweapons are achievable with today’s technology. However, the sponsor of such a project is faced with risks and choices that may make this area less worrisome than it may otherwise seem.

    The linked Telegraph article is paywalled, and the report it references from Cambridge’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk (CSER) is stylishly presented as a series of Web pages. There doesn’t seem to be a long-form PDF, and what I’ve read (starting here) is vague and brief. So my comments may be somewhat off the mark.

    If you tasked me with this project, I could likely achieve it with a budget of perhaps $100 million and a 10-year timeframe. I’d need to recruit a team of about a dozen accomplished PhDs and MDs, supported by perhaps three dozen technicians.

    Per Counterinsurgency, the jumping-off point would be a well-understood highly contagious virus. The main technical driver would be a concept that’s become common in a number of fields, iterative directed evolution (along with CRISPR and possibly Cre-Lox recombination). I say this much because it’s “obvious”, but won’t go into further detail.

    Here are what I see as the main limitations and problems for the evil sponsor of such a program.

    * Because it’s so immoral, you’d have trouble recruiting and retaining top-notch talent, at least in reasonably-open countries.

    * Likewise, it would be hard to keep the project secret for its ~10-year R&D phase, particularly in reasonably-open countries. If the project and its target are revealed midway through, is it still valuable to the sponsor?

    * The Development phase would necessarily involve killing (murdering) thousands of the target ethnic group, and exposing tens of thousands of “friendlies” to the agent, killing many.

    * The results will be messy. E.g. release of the virus might affect (injure or kill) 50% of the target ethnic group, 20% of somewhat-close ethnic groups, 5% of others in the same Big Five racial category, and 1% of every other racial group. Would, say, a Chinese anti-Western-Europe attack be successful if it killed “only” 15 million Han?

    * There’s a risk that the bioweapon would mutate beyond the final, “fixed” form that is released. A variant could affect the sponsor’s ethnic group.

    * Lastly, once it’s released, the agent will quickly be identified as engineered, i.e. an ethnically-directed attack and not a natural phenomenon. Bioweapons are hardly the only Weapons of Mass Destruction — if the project sponsor is identified by the target, retaliation seems to be a likely consequence. IIRC, decades ago the US ‘promised’ a nuclear response to a biological attack.

  102. @Lot

    We don’t need their plastic Communist anti-Western crud anyway.

    True.

    Turns out Vietnam can sweatshop too, and they like us!

    We need to bring manufacturing back to the USA.

    I am so excited for the final blow when we hit them with a 10% minimum tariff across the board.

    It needs to be 25% at least, and across the board with everyone.

    • Replies: @Lot
  103. Lugash says:
    @JimB

    It did so for gay men in the US before we developed effective drugs. It also hit hemophiliacs before testing and screening the blood supply. Now it’s chronic condition that is easily manageable*, although the drugs do seem to cause a lot of trouble in later life(memory loss, osteoporosis, cancers).

    *Provided you’re not a druggie or scatter brained gay guy.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  104. Race is one hell of a social construct, it seems:

    Moving Away From ‘White People Only’ DNA Tests: African Project Seeks Thousands For Mental Health Genetics

    But research on the genetic basis of mental illness has so far largely excluded anyone who is not of European heritage. That means that this Kenyan family, and other people of African descent, might not benefit from the new biological insights into mental illness. And it means we are perilously close to an era of “white-people–only DNA tests.”

    So mental illness a for-sure genetic issue and intelligence is not. Of course.

  105. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    There is cultural weapon that targets whites.

  106. Fried chicken is a racially-biased method for delivering bioweapons, bangin’ flavor, and knife crime awareness.

  107. I dunno, though … This idea of a Race Bomb has been kicking around for a long time. I can recall a discussion of the possibility back in the 1990s. It didn’t sound all that plausible then and I don’t think it’s gotten more plausible as we’ve learned more about how complex the workings of the human genome tend to be.

    Race Bomb is the demographic inundation of European Christian nations with non-Europeans and non-Christians and non-Whites.

    Debt Bomb is the use of monetary extremism and a debt-based fiat currency system to bribe certain generational cohorts to go along with the race replacement and WHITE GENOCIDE currently underway in European Christian nations.

    Debt and Demography.

    Monetary Policy and Mass Immigration Invasion.

    Just for fun this guy tried to make a show out of the Debt Bomb that will soon detonate and bring on the next phase of the global financial implosion. It’s from 2012 but it is timely now. He’s got 876,00 views on YouTube, not bad!

    I like the one on the right but semi-paunchy peasant pauper populists can’t be choosy! Dominic Frisby is good fun. Put that girl in my soup, waiter, thank you very much!

    Race Bomb and Debt Bomb set to topple ruling classes and I phucking love it! GO GO Salvini!

  108. @Autochthon

    The idea of a race bomb has been kicking around for a long time

    “Race specific weapon” is what the Wikipedia article says. Take a look at the Wikipedia article:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Column
    1941 SF conventions being what they were, the weapon was a ray, not a disease. It was used as a direct fire weapon, and required quite a few other avenues of attack to be effective. Invaders were “PanAsians”, a political label apparently inspired by the “Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere” that the Japanese were trying for back in 1941.
    “One character is Frank Mitsui, an Asian American whose family was murdered by the invaders because they did not fit in the new PanAsiatic racial order.” and, as I recall, he died as a hero in the story.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  109. L Woods says:
    @M Krauthammar

    Again, you think you’re trolling, but is there anything there that isn’t actually true? I don’t think so.

  110. This should be under “Making the Statue of Liberty Cry”, but I just thought of it today, and I don’t want to post it on a dead thread.

    Formerly The Statue of Liberty

    The dame with the Roman proboscis
    Is “The New”, not the Grecian, “Colossus.”
    Dedicated, at first, to the bravery
    It took to eliminate slavery,
    It was re-dedicated by Lazarus
    To make immigration seem glamorous.

    Let’s us, all the immigrant-haters,
    Re-re-name and re-re-dedicate ’er
    To enforced limits on immigration:
    We’ll make her “The Statue”, now, “of Limitation.”

  111. @Bruno

    does asian people have used genocide against other races ever ? I don’t see clear examples .

    Tibet 1966-present.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinicization_of_Tibet
    http://www.thetibetpost.com/en/outlook/opinions-and-columns/4533-genocide-in-the-20th-century-massacres-in-tibet-1966-76

    Vietnam, boat people (Han Chinese)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_boat_people

    Counterinsurgency

  112. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Fried chicken is a racially-biased method for delivering bioweapons, bangin’ flavor, and knife crime awareness.

    There’s a commercial opportunity here! Church’s Chicken should re-brand itself as a the non-surgical male contraceptive pharmaceutical that has been sought for so long! I can see it now, the two people having a meal of delicious Church’s Chicken before going on to other things. What a commercial!

    Countrinsurgency

  113. @M Krauthammar

    Bring our African brothers to the West, they can be… good fathers to children of White women.

    Now that’s biological warfare!

  114. Tulip says:

    Don’t worry guys, race is socially constructed and has no basis in biological reality.

    Don’t you read the NY Times Science page and Nature?

  115. utu says:
    @hoekomsa

    Was Steven Hatfill who later was accused of anthrax letters involved in RSA’s biological weapon program?

  116. ‘World Must Prepare for Biological Weapons That Target Ethnic Groups Based on Genetics”‘

    I guess this means we’re all at the mercy of black science.

  117. @M Krauthammar

    ‘Darn it feels good to be a progressive!’

    The ideology is really working out well, then, is it?

    Forward into broad, sunlit uplands? The world ten thousand Chicagos?

    • LOL: bomag
  118. jackson says:

    i worked for many years in a field concerned with directing the tropism of viruses to particular tissues (although not ethnic groups). My take is that the concept of using such things as effective weapons is fantasy. For one, it will be impossible to target just the human population you want to target. More importantly any independently replicating vector/organism will easily evolve to shed itself of any genetic restrictions on its spread that were put on it.

    Much easier to just drop a bomb on or shoot the population of interest.

  119. Altai says:

    OT: The warden of the prison Epstein was held in has been identified as one Lamine N’Diaye. Senegalese name. Dare we wonder about the ethnicity or indeed, nationality of the two guards who took naps instead of checking once every 30 minutes on the most valuable prisoner in the United States?

  120. istevefan says:

    Biological weapons that target ethnic groups based on genetics

    Does mass immigration count? It seems to be doing a pretty good job of displacing certain ethnic groups. On the one hand if the immigrants don’t assimilate, they tend to push out the targeted ethnic group or suppress its birth rates. On the other hand if the immigrants do assimilate, they tend to modify the genetic makeup of the targeted ethnic group with their own. Over time the targeted ethnic group will be absorbed.

    • Replies: @Prodigal son
    , @bomag
  121. @M Krauthammar

    Alternatively, the White-folk of America and Western Europe could trade those places for Africa, then the white folk could move to and actually make something of the resource-rich lands of Africa while the former Africans prove there is no such thing as Magic Dirt in the US and Europe.

  122. Kronos says:
    @James Bowery

    Lovely, genocidal feminists unleash devastating bioweapon against all of MANkind. Just so fat lesbians can increase their pickup game of hot chicks by 6%.

  123. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Who’s to say Church’s won’t make one sterile.

    Yep, they want to even ban plastic knives in the UK.

  124. @Steve Sailer

    There’s nothing so wrong with USA that couldn’t be fixed by taking a few pages from Pol Pot’s book.

  125. ‘The White Plague” which Frank Herbert wrote immediately after the Dune trilogy is a pretty good treatment of a targeted bio-warfare disease. Worth a read.

    I was a microbiology major back in the 80’s and all my professors had their PhD’s 100% paid for by the DoD, they were all up to their eyeballs in targeted biowarfare in the 70’s. I would go as far as to speculate that this research never really ended. It’s just called; “defense against biowarfare/bioterrorism” now.

    I know during the 1st Gulf War deployed troops (I was one) were inoculated against weaponized Anthrax and Smallpox, and some other unidentified (and unrecorded) shots were given as well. This begs the question of who had the strains of these things to make vaccines from in the first place?
    I can only guess as to what sorts of heinous things are being cooked up in the present day.

  126. J.Ross says:
    @eah

    I have been cured for a while now of all regretful sentiment which might boil up hearing about bad things happening to people who call themselves “journalists.”

  127. @95Theses

    ‘Is this supposed to be a trick picture puzzle?’

    Lot’s aware most of his audience are gentile. Pictures are more appropriate.

  128. @M Krauthammar

    …good fathers to children of White women

    A common term these white, and many black, women have for such men is sperm donor.

    The use of which, unsurprisingly, pisses off a lot of dykes, cucks, and “sperm babies”. But so be it.

    https://mamaedenandme.com/2016/06/18/why-your-deadbeat-dad-isnt-a-sperm-donor/

    http://www.mondayswithmac.com/2012/04/sperm-donors-and-deadbeat-dads-one-of.html

    • Replies: @L Woods
  129. @istevefan

    Invasions of people will certainly result in genocide , as occurred with the Native Americans…

    As an example, are still 325,000 Cherokee tribe members left , but they are genetically 97% European. The male Y chromosomes of current tribal members are 10o% European haplogroups. Many tribal members have less Indian DNA than Elizabeth Warren.

  130. bomag says:
    @Dissident

    Kind-of; but what’s a “legitimate Muslim grievance”? Not converting? Same with “insulting and attacking”. Who gets to decide? Reasonable people don’t prevail in these conflicts.

  131. L Woods says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    False. Nothing is ever women’s fault.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Cortes
  132. Laxalt says:

    The opiate epidemic seems to be hitting England.

    The north-east registered 96.3 deaths per million people, compared with 39.4 in London, where the rate was lowest. The figures for Wales, the north-west and Yorkshire and the Humber were also high.

    No surprises about the demographic breakdown of any of those places.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/aug/15/drug-poisoning-deaths-in-england-and-wales-at-highest-level-ever-recorded

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  133. BB753 says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Feminism is the ultimate biological weapon! Guaranteed sub-replacement fertility in a couple of generations and near-extinction of the targeted group in a little over a century.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  134. J.Ross says:
    @Stan Adams

    Purely political posturing. Was there any danger of either of those two making aliyah?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  135. @M Krauthammar

    and good fathers to children of White women

    There is a video online showing a female German social worker explaining this thought to an African asylum seeker, who is at risk of being sent back. She at the end of their conversation says: “Did you understand what I’ve explained to you?” -And the client answers with a big sweet smile…

  136. @Laxalt

    It would be interesting to know how much the opiate crisis regions overlap with pro-Brexit votes.

  137. Herzog says:

    Such weapons cannot possibly be developed. Everybody knows that all humans are alike, with race only being skin deep.

  138. @JimB

    HIV is a race bomb. It annihilates sexually promiscuous men and women with low impulse control and lacking future orientation.

    HIV can’t be much of racial weapon, as HIV is eugenic.

    It doesn’t affect the compentent, productive, non-promiscuous, married-with-children types at all.

    Left to run it’s course, it basically “takes out the trash”. Actually improves the behavior and the stock of the people of any race.

    “Behave better” is all the medical intervention that was needed. There was no reason to spend dime one on figuring it out and paying for treatment is just stupid.

    • Replies: @JimB
    , @utu
    , @Dissident
  139. @Haole

    Immigration is a biological weapon aimed at certain genetic groups. Think about it.

    Spot on Haole.

    As is usually the case, no super-secret, complex conspiracy or plan or weapon needs to be unearthed. What’s going on–and the who-whom of it–is in plain sight. In this case, the conspirators just can’t even shut the f$%# up about it, they are so overcome with genocidal glee.

  140. @International Jew

    If I was into conspiracy theories, I’d suspect China had already unleashed something on us. Something that makes us fat and tattoo ourselves. It doesn’t seem to affect Chinese after all.

    LOL. Well done.

    I’m 100% for stopping immigration and maintaining my nation, as an outpost of Western civilization–ergo a “racist” or “white nationalist” or “white supremacist” or “Nazi” or whatever the heck they feel like calling me. Which i think should be adequate “team white” credentials.

    But since AnotherMom has dragged me down to retirement on the beach, i can testify that the state of white America is … pretty effing ugly. Fats and tats–not a good look. (Of course the other races aren’t looking good either. In some cases–blacks and Puerto Ricans–even more embarrassing than whitey … but then i don’t expect as much from them.)

    Seriously, fellow white people–push back from the table! And have enough self-respect to avoid mutilating yourself. Be proud of your pale pinkish skin.

    • Agree: istevefan
  141. JimB says:
    @AnotherDad

    You don’t not get to a population of 4 billion in Africa by the end of this century by being…

    competent, productive, non-promiscuous, married-with-children types

  142. @AnotherDad

    Yes, whites are the most negatively affected by diversity.

    Given our egalitarian and fraternal outlook, we rely more on the greater community for support than the Chinese, or Indians, etc.

    Indians don’t care about diversity because they always have their family (clan).

    Many whites are ok with meeting totally new people regularly (at a bar, for instance). What happens when that bar is empty?

    Of course, whites just need to adapt a bit. We did fine as a minority when we were conquering most of the world. Our new levels of atomisation are extreme, even for us.

    Many white people are suffering terribly from this, but don’t even realize what is causing it.

  143. Seriously, fellow white people–push back from the table! And have enough self-respect to avoid mutilating yourself. Be proud of your pale pinkish skin.

    Mike Pompeo and Donald Trump won’t push back from the table and Mike Pompeo and Donald Trump put the interests of Israel over the interests of the USA.

    White people without blood sugar problems should go without food or calories for extended periods of time to maintain a decent weight. I’m just slightly over weight. I’ve been 211 and 181 pounds. I’m now in the 190s.

    Fasting is the way to go. Exercise is good to increase constant metabolism to burn through fat.

    American walruses at Wal-Mart or the beach is thoroughly displeasing.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  144. @AnotherDad

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Kronos
  145. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    No, they were going to participate in a propaganda trip to the “occupied territories” (aka Jerusalem) organized by a Palestinian organization. Why would Israel go along with this? What was in it for them other than grief? The POTUS himself told the Israelis to turn them down.

    • Troll: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  146. J.Ross says:
    @BB753

    There’s a conspiracy theory that says our benevolent masters propagated feminism to be able to double the tax base and increase labor flexibility, but now find themselves swamped by all feminism’s externalities (like population collapse, or the proliferation of fake offices), so their new short term fix is to bring in Muslims.

    • Replies: @BB753
  147. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Sooooo something not all that different from the Israeli propaganda trips that good little congressboys and congressgirls get to junket on?

  148. Anonymous[342] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t quite think so.

    O/T: Taleb is now taking on Charles Murray in a heated lumping vs. splitting debate, though I’m not sure if Murray yet knows it.

  149. Off Topic:

    John Nolte at Breitbart has a very funny write-up on National Review getting the vapors because Max Boot is calling them “white nationalists:” https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/08/15/nolte-never-trump-civil-war-erupts-as-max-boot-declares-national-review-alt-right-site/

    All this biting, slapping, and hair-pulling can only mean one thing…

    Begun the Cuck Wars have.

    Now, from where I stand, this all began after El Paso when the Cucks at NR pompously announced it is time to declare a literal war on White Nationalism.

    And then…

    On the pages of the Washington Post, Warmonger Cuck aka Boot, published a column that explained to the NR Cucks that when the left and media talk about a war on white supremacism, what they really mean is snuffing out anyone who disagrees with them…

    And then…

    After discovering that by cucking out and joining the left’s phony War on White Supremacism that they had actually declared war on themselves, the NR Cucks took exception and tried to explain to Warmonger Cuck that..

  150. Jack D says:
    @Lagertha

    Here’s another possible Zionist ploy – trick white people into believing that vaccines are dangerous and unnecessary so their kids will die! Make the dumb goyim believe that vaccines themselves are a Zionist plot so that they withhold them from their kids. Tell them to trust no one, not even their kid’s doctor or the public health authorities.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  151. Future Dems of Wakandan ancestry might want such a weapon as part of their National Security Contingency Plans, should those Dastardly Deplorables & ‘White Supremacists’ get out of hand.

  152. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Fried chicken is a racially-biased method for delivering bioweapons, bangin’ flavor, and knife crime awareness.

    Why does poultry get everybody riled up? Evidently the most controversial and offensive comment I’ve made in a decade here was a recent link to a recipe for baking chicken inside a watermelon.

    Baking, not frying.

    Some people must identify with their fellow thin-skinned bipeds.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
  153. @Stan Adams

    Israel has barred Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib:

    This is reasonable.

    Ilhan Omar said (or at least implied) a bunch of–obviously true–things about American Jewish influence (power and $$$) on US Israel/middle-east policy. As well she should, supporting her tribe.

    Now she’s trying to do some sort of propaganda trip over there and Israel is putting the kibosh on it. As well they should, supporting their tribe.

    I wish my tribe–white gentiles–would get the $%@# on the ball and start defending its interests and punishing the people who have it in for us.

  154. @Stan Adams

    Israel has barred Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib:

    Even worse: we can’t.

    Home is the place where, when you have to go there, they have to take you in.

    Robert Frost

    • Agree: Ibound1
  155. Steve

    Did you see Lawrence Tribe’s tweet?…You gotta make a post about it….pronto…Get on with it…

  156. Corvinus says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “A stealth weapon that depressed birth rates in the targeted group over a long term would be neat.”

    Actually, that would be anti-God, unjust, and immoral. You certainly wouldn’t be in favor of such a thing if it was used against the group(s) you belong to. But that’s other than surprising coming from you. Wait for your “Troll” alert in 3, 2, 1…

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  157. utu says:
    @AnotherDad

    “HIV can’t be much of racial weapon…”. – No, it can because of CCR5-delta 32 mutation. Europeans and among them Ashkenazi Jews have the highest rate of this mutation. So, for Jews to use HIV as biological weapon would make a perfect sense. Why did A. Jews acquire this mutation is not known but possibly it has something to do with the Black Death.

  158. It might not be so hard to engineer a weapon that kills white people.

    Maybe something that makes melanoma far easier to develop.

    I should maybe shut my mouth about it, though, given it’s the Current Year.

  159. @J.Ross

    1. AIDS doesn’t kill black people; black behaviors kill black people (and others).

    2. If weaponized ethnobacterial micro-Robocops come a-gunnin’ fer me, I’m gonna invoke the Dolezal Protocol and assume a non-targeted genotype.

  160. @Lagertha

    I use these things known as “a hat and sunglasses”.

    Really works quite well.

    I’m very pale (pink!) and I almost never get burned.

    I don’t trust (((sunscreen))).

  161. Lot says:
    @AnotherDad

    “As is usually the case, no super-secret, complex conspiracy or plan or weapon needs to be unearthed. What’s going on–and the who-whom of it–is in plain sight. In this case, the conspirators just can’t even shut the f$%# up about it, they are so overcome with genocidal glee.”

    This is so obviously true and I don’t understand why more people don’t get it. Not only is there no Third World invasion secret conspiracy, it is those of us who oppose it that often have to scurry around anonymously.

  162. Lot says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    “We need to bring manufacturing back to the USA.”

    Things like $1000 computers and phones I agree. Cheap clothing and the sort of things you get at dollar stores: not too realistic. Since there are dozens of low wage countries, we can send low wage work to our allies. Other work, like dying leather, is extremely polluting and dangerous. Let the Bangladeshis do it if they want.

    “It needs to be 25% at least, and across the board with everyone.”

    Agree. Phasing it in makes sense though, we don’t want to disrupt supply chains too much. Start with 10, go up another 5% every 60 days.

  163. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Or arbitrarily set medical pricing through a totally unaccountable panel of specialists — oh no wait, that one’s real.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  164. stevecel says:

    As someone above already said, it’s quite possible to create such a weapon at this very moment, but its effectiveness will be very low so its strategic purpose would be better suited for terrorism and other low-level conflicts. The answer to the “problem” is obvious; genetic modification will be a necessity in the future. Maybe the triumph of the white race will be the appropriation of its accumulated genetic characteristics by others.

  165. Lot says:
    @Steve Sailer

    “Khmer Rouge genocided bookish people”

    Israel Shamir debunked that hoax year ago. Wake up sheeple!

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/18/pol-pot-revisited/

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  166. @Counterinsurgency

    I first read the novel ten years ago. aI still own my copy. I’m quite familiar with it, and I could never be less interested in what you or the “Wikipedia” have to say about it (or anything else).

    You weary me, Sir.

    I would that long ago Chuck Norris had thrashed you with his bare hands (registered deadly weapons!) then left you in a secret tunnel filled with paedophiles, unfunny comedians, and golf course designers.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  167. Pater says:
    @Anonymous

    The natives of any given environment usually have increased immunity & reduced morbidity from local pathogens.

  168. Pater says:

    I’m highly sceptical as the transmitability and virulence of a pathogen is governed by polygenic systems in the pathogen, possible vector organisms, then finally in the immune system of the human host. It’s doubtful that tinkering with any bug would make it much deadlier than Ebola, Marburg or the nastier Influenza strains to be worth the effort.
    Also ethnic groups even in global multicultural cities let alone nation states tend to be geographically segregated into particular neighborhoods, boroughs, counties, provinces etc.

  169. TWS says:
    @J.Ross

    If you wanted a disease to kill off gay drug users but leave everyone else pretty much alone, AIDS is it.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @MarkinLA
  170. TWS says:
    @M Krauthammar

    You can’t out duck the duck but you can beat him with better grammar and spelling. Well done.

  171. Logan says:
    @Bruno

    The Mongols killed something like 10% of the world’s population at the time. They wiped out entire regions in Central Asia that had previously been “white.”

    But I suspect they were equal opportunity genocidists. At one point they started their implementation of a plan to kill all Chinese to make more land available for their herds.

    Then a wise old Chinese official convinced them it was more profitable to use the land to ranch Chinese instead of sheep.

  172. @candid_observer

    They already have. Fentanyl, methamphetamine, tranquilizers, ethanol, H1-B visas, high-fructose corn syrup and a hundred other other “food” additives and GMO crops doused in insecticide and fungicide, aspartame, bisphenol-A, fluoridated municipal water, statins, Viagra instead of cardiovascular fitness, fat “acceptance” (aka type-II diabetes acceptance),”anti”-depressants, late-night fast-food drive-throughs, 24/7, million-channel TV (Remember that midnight-to-6 AM top-rated show, “Test Pattern” that was universally viewed for decades?), glyphosate, dumbed-down education, easy credit and the dissolution of the family-based society.

  173. When biotech finally lives up to any of the hype that has ever surrounded it, then it may be time to start worrying about race-specific pathogens. That will happen at about the same time we get controlled fusion, flying cars, and Kurzweil’s singularity (i.e. never).

    Incredibly, once you discount the massive ideological superstructure that imbues the field with its mystique, and just take an honest look at the facts, there really is nothing very sophisticated going on in molecular biology. The whole enterprise amounts to the culturing of extracts from tissue and the mixing thereof.

    It’s apothecary’s work; and that is how it will persist among the people of the future in a somewhat diminished form. The superstructure will be forgotten if not actually flung away in contempt, and whatever of the rote practical procedures such as can be maintained by less intensive methods will be incorporated into the druggist’s craft.

  174. Cortes says:
    @L Woods

    The performance of the female match officials entrusted with the UEFA Supercup game between Liverpool and Chelsea in Istanbul on Wednesday was comedy gold. Hey! They coped fine with the Women’s World Cup Final so how could they not step up to a game involving the big boys?

    Except that they failed to keep pace with the speed of the players and repeatedly made ludicrous decisions from too far away from on-field action. Fouls, offsides, throw-ins, corners and a preposterous decision to award a penalty for a dying swan simulation by a Chelsea forward made for high class entertainment for the management teams who shared frequent laughs.

    Part of the entertainment value was having the officials back each other’s incorrect decisions up in a true spirit of Solidarity which made me wonder if they were Polish rather than French… really competent officials keep each other right by communicating the need to overturn an initial decision.

    Wrong? OK, let’s fix it, not Wrong? Moi?

  175. @JimB

    Leftist conspiracy theorists were intrigued by a seemingly new virus that primarily kills homos, Blacks, junkies, and race-mixing White women. But they often tie it into some belief that actual Nazis secretly pull all the strings from behind the scenes. Needless to say, that doesn’t actually seem to be what’s happening in our world.

  176. @Reg Cæsar

    Why does poultry get everybody riled up? Evidently the most controversial and offensive comment I’ve made in a decade here was a recent link to a recipe for baking chicken inside a watermelon.

    Of all the racial stereotypes in the world, the idea that African-Americans like fried chicken & watermelon, must be the least offensive. Not only is it true (they do like fried chicken & watermelon), but so does almost everybody else. It’s the equivalent of saying “White people like a cool drink on a hot day, and most of their men occasionally enjoy making love to women”. Stereotype threat!

  177. @Dissident

    What’s a “legitimate” Muslim grievance? The quartering of Western troops at refueling stations, eating KBR-supplied buffalo wings in a tin shack in bismi’llah Buttfuq, Arabia? Political manipulation and meddling in the famously quiet and well-ordered political life of the MENA region? Any Muslim-identifying person on the earthly sphere straining their wrist while wrapping a diaper around their head?

    Are Westerners allowed grievances? Is the presence of cocaine-addled paedophile catamite-chasing, shemale-loving Saudi expatriates in Western boardrooms not a thousand times more scurrilous than the presence of fat black Navy line cooks in wholly-segregated compounds abroad?

    A lot of our ‘diversity incidents’ seem to be performed by skinnyfat second-generation People of Brown who predicate their attacks on some vague notion of Muslim solidarity, as if the average tribesman in Syria engaged in conflict with another tribe in a tribal death struggle over tribal resources and tribal privileges could even comprehend a Malay-, Kosovar- or Pakistani-American teenager putting down Porntube and Mountain Dew long enough to become entrapped in the latest intelligence service fishing op. The Muslim world doesn’t have the solidarity of Africa– and we’re supposed to believe that every Muslim, everywhere, acutely feels the pain of his coreligionists?

  178. lhtness says:

    It’s my impression that most forms of mouse/rat poison are also poisonous for humans, dogs, cats, and often birds. It seems like it should be a much easier problem to find a biological or chemical agent that just affects a subset of rodents than to find one that just affects a subset of humans. I realize that this observation deals with poison rather than biological weapons, but it seems worth noting.

  179. @Lot

    Phasing it in makes sense though, we don’t want to disrupt supply chains too much. Start with 10, go up another 5% every 60 days.

    Minimizing the shock is worthwhile. I suppose the timeframe might be better than all at once – it is at least plausible. I like it.

  180. BB753 says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Today, basically any female under the age of 90 is a feminist. The irreversible damage has been done.

  181. bomag says:
    @istevefan

    Highlights that the most important thing is who gets born to inherit the future.

    Killing those already here is far too messy.

    But if you can swing who gets born to take over…

  182. @Greg R.R. Marvin

    I know of a company that does exactly what your last sentence fears!

  183. @TWS

    ‘If you wanted a disease to kill off gay drug users but leave everyone else pretty much alone, AIDS is it.’

    It kills lots of blacks, too.

  184. Brutus says:

    Simpler to put the stuff in a vaccine.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-un-tetanus-vaccine-2/5678295

    https://www.unicef.org/kenya/media_15665.html

    Need eyes on the ground to see if the birth rate dropped in these areas.

    One of those things that make you go Hmmmm….

    Brutus

  185. BB753 says:
    @J.Ross

    Islam is a worse idea than feminism, but our overlords know better, do they?

  186. MarkinLA says:
    @TWS

    Is there a genetic predisposition for those with a preference for getting it versus giving it? That might also make a difference.

  187. Dissident says:
    @Lugash

    Now it’s [HIV] chronic condition that is easily manageable*, although the drugs do seem to cause a lot of trouble in later life(memory loss, osteoporosis, cancers).

    You made no mention of the cost of such drugs, which is rather exorbitant, and who is paying it. To a very large degree, the answer is that we are. ‘We’ being the majority of the population that does not routinely indulge in the inordinately high-risk, inherently unhygienic and entirely voluntary practices that account for the overwhelming majority of HIV cases.

  188. Dissident says:
    @J.Ross

    Or arbitrarily set medical pricing through a totally unaccountable panel of specialists — oh no wait, that one’s real.

    So Jews did that with the deliberate attempt to harm non-Jews? Is that what you are suggesting?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  189. RobRich says: • Website
    @J.Ross

    Big deal. Guess she saw the zany conspiracy thriller of Robert Ryan or that commie claim Reagan cooked up AIDS to kill Black people from decades back.

  190. Kronos says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    They’re scared, only guilty whites donate money to SPLC-type charities. You go ahead and try to guilt trip a Mexican on slavery and the Holocaust, it’s impossible. The entire donor pool is shrinking!

    The “Poverty Palace” upkeep costs and employee salaries are expensive!

  191. Dissident says:
    @AnotherDad

    It doesn’t affect the compentent, productive, non-promiscuous, married-with-children types at all.

    Not entirely true. What about those unfortunate enough to need a blood transfusion? Or fall victim to rape?
    Even just receiving an injection, IV or in any number of encounters in a hospital or doctor’s office, there is a certain level of risk to everyone.

    I certainly do agree, though, that it is simply outrageous how much the rest of us must pay for the reckless, voluntary choices of others. And HIV, along with the many other serious infections that are spread through the same behaviors, may be the most egregious example of this.

    “Behave better” is all the medical intervention that was needed.

    From dissident homosexual blogger Rob McGee:

    [MORE]

    Because telling gay men “you know, not having anal sex at all is actually an option you guys might wanna consider” would offend them. Even worse, it would concede a tiny point to those awful, awful homophobic religious conservatives — namely, that “it’s not a lifestyle, it’s a deathstyle” occasionally has a kernel of truth to it.

    Man2Man Alliance (GRAPHIC CONTENT) founder Bill Weintraub has written extensively of how what he calls The Buttf–k Dictatorship has repeatedly fought efforts to even so much as present safer and painless alternatives to buggery as viable options for homosexual males.

    Note that my own position, which I have stated previously numerous times, is that the best option for such individuals would be to at least attempt to re-orient toward heterosexuality. Second best would be to choose celibacy. Third best, the alternative models advocated by individuals such as the above-cited Weintraub and McGee.

  192. Dissident says:
    @JimB

    Some African countries have HIV rates of 25% and rising.

    What accounts for that? A lack of modern medical facilities and adequate hygienic conditions?? More buggery? Other unhygienic practices? Some combination of two or more such factors?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  193. Dissident says:
    @Anon2020

    Sounds like something only a certain tribe would do, a tribe known for using their smarts to do evil rather than good throughout history.

    “Success for us lies in demonstrating that our views are right, healthy and moral—and that liberal-egalitarianism is wrong and immoral; not in trying to “unmask” it as a Jewish conspiracy.”

    ~ Jared Taylor, Jews and American Renaissance

  194. J.Ross says:
    @Anon2020

    I believe every nation that has reached a certain technological capacity has at least wrestled with the question of a weapon that will be safe to their people but will kill the enemy, and certainly they have pursued less discriminating biological and chemical agents.

  195. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Mike_from_SGV

    Yes but being a white progressive won’t save you from being sent to the camps.

    But being rich will. Being a white person who is both rich and Woke will definitely save you.

    You just need to remember – rich white people good, poor white people bad.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  196. @Mike_from_SGV

    Yes but being a white progressive won’t save you from being sent to the camps.

    A reporter from the NYT just found that out the hard way when he into it with a black woman.

  197. J.Ross says:
    @Dissident

    As tiresome as the straw man exercise is in its reliably meaningless nine thousandth iteration, it’s also self-defeating when married to panglossian faith in institutional goodness.

  198. J.Ross says:
    @Dissident

    Someone else here pointed out that the white devil piles wealth taller than a termite colony when you say “AIDS,” but is stingy from boredom if you say “poverty” or “tuburculosis,” therefore loudly say “AIDS” and pay for every daughter’s wedding.

  199. J.Ross says:
    @dfordoom

    Historically they targeted unconnected rich people to be able to rob them. Connections are everything in witch-hunts.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  200. MEH 0910 says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Tiny Duck says:
    August 15, 2019 at 11:04 am GMT

    @M Krauthammar

    I agree

    Agree: @M Krauthammar, @Tiny Duck

  201. Mikey D. says:

    Huh. Kind of scary that all it could take is one angry scientist to wipe out a race of people, but there doesn’t seem like there’s anything anyone can do about it. Sort of like 3d-printed guns.

    It’s going to happen eventually, we all just have to hope it doesn’t get out hand.

  202. dfordoom says: • Website
    @J.Ross

    Historically they targeted unconnected rich people to be able to rob them. Connections are everything in witch-hunts.

    Rich people these days tend to be very well-connected. That’s how you get to be a rich person.

  203. @Autochthon

    You weary me, Sir.

    I would that long ago Chuck Norris had thrashed you with his bare hands (registered deadly weapons!) then left you in a secret tunnel filled with paedophiles, unfunny comedians, and golf course designers.

    Aren’t you being a bit hostile here?

    Counterinsurgency

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