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From the New York Times:

Women’s March Roiled by Accusations of Anti-Semitism

By Farah Stockman, Dec. 23, 2018

Within days of Donald J. Trump’s election, a diverse group of women united by their concern about the incoming administration gathered at a restaurant in New York to plan a protest march in Washington. They had seen the idea floating on Facebook and wanted to turn it into a reality.

The unity did not last long. Vanessa Wruble, a Brooklyn-based activist, said she told the group that her Jewish heritage inspired her to try to help repair the world. But she said the conversation took a turn when Tamika Mallory, a black gun control activist, and Carmen Perez, a Latina criminal justice reform activist, replied that Jews needed to confront their own role in racism. …

Ms. Wruble was pushed out of the organization shortly after the march, and she now asserts that her Jewish identity played a role. She went on to help found an organization called March On, which supports local women activists.

The rift is now so dire that there will be two marches on the same day next month on the streets of New York: one led by the Women’s March group, which is billed as being led by women of color, and another by a group affiliated with March On that is stressing its denunciation of anti-Semitism.

Ms. Mallory, meanwhile, who is now co-president of the Women’s March group, has been criticized for attending an event by Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation of Islam who has been widely reviled for making anti-Semitic remarks. Ms. Mallory has called Mr. Farrakhan “the GOAT,” or “greatest of all time,” on social media. …

The allegations of anti-Semitism are particularly painful because Women’s March organizers made a commitment from the beginning to work across racial and religious lines, and to be led by what they considered the most “marginalized” women.

And we all know who the most marginalized women are according to the precise equations embodied in The Theory of Intersectionality … What? There are no equations? It’s just a free for all of every womyn for xirself as to who gets top bragging rights in the endless Queen of the Intersectional Hill contest?

Now Women’s March activists are grappling with how they treat Jews — and whether they should be counted as privileged white Americans or “marginalized” minorities, especially in the aftermath of the October mass shooting in Pittsburgh, when 11 people were gunned down at their synagogue.

Tensions around identity have swirled around the Women’s March from its earliest days. Black and Latina women complained on Facebook that white women were planning a march without their input, and that mainstream feminists had long ignored their needs.

Ms. Wruble, a central organizer of the march, says she agrees that white women, including Jews, should grapple with their racial privilege. She put out a call for women of color to join the planning team and was connected with Ms. Mallory and Ms. Perez. At that first meeting, Ms. Wruble said, they seemed to want to educate her about a dark side of Jewish history, and told her that Jewish people played a large role in the slave trade and the prison industry.

“I was taken aback,” said Ms. Wruble in her first extensive interview about her experience organizing the Women’s March. “I thought, ‘Maybe there are things I don’t know about my own people.’”

She said she went home that night and searched Google to read about the Jewish role in the slave trade. Up popped a review of “The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and the Jews,” a 1991 book by Mr. Farrakhan, which asserts that Jews were especially culpable. Henry Louis Gates Jr., a Harvard professor, has called the book the “bible of the new anti-Semitism.”

Ms. Wruble said she did not dwell on the issue because she wanted to work together on the march, which was only two months away. Ms. Mallory and Ms. Perez brought a friend on board, Linda Sarsour, a Palestinian-American activist. …

Behind the scenes, Ms. Wruble said she felt cast aside.

She said she was told by one of the march leaders that “we really couldn’t center Jewish women in this or we might turn off groups like Black Lives Matter.” While Black Lives Matter is a diffuse movement, some activists have issued statements expressing solidarity with Palestinians under Israeli occupation.

At one point, Ms. Wruble said she asked about security for the march and was told by the leaders that the Nation of Islam would be providing it.

“I said, ‘You are going to open up the march to intense criticism,’” Ms. Wruble said, warning that it would be a red flag for Jews. She said they dismissed her concerns in a heated email exchange and accused her of unfairly maligning the Nation of Islam.

As the march grew closer, Ms. Perez gathered a diverse group of activists who created a set of “unity principles” that would tie all marchers together and highlight those viewed as the most vulnerable at the time.

“We must create a society in which all women — including Black women, Indigenous women, poor women, immigrant women, disabled women, Muslim women, lesbian, queer and trans women — are free,” it read.

Ms. Wruble noticed that Jewish women were not included, but said she was too busy with logistics for the march to focus on it. …

Even though the march was a success, Ms. Wruble said that she felt angry and that the event’s official leaders were more focused on celebrity than building the movement. She also felt they were unwilling to confront their own bias against Jews. …

“They were talking about, ‘You people this,’ and ‘You people that’ and the kicker was, ‘You people hold all the wealth.’ I was like, ‘Oh my God, they are talking about her being Jewish,’” said Ms. Harmon, whose account was first published by Tablet. “The greatest regret of my life was not standing up and saying ‘This is wrong.’”

White wealth proves white privilege.

Jewish wealth proves … Does Not Compute, Ahoooga, Brain Melting Down, Abort! Abort!

Reboot … Okay, Jewish wealth is Not A Topic. Nobody ever talks about Jewish wealth. There is no conceivable topic more boring than Jewish wealth.

Unless you are Jewish, then Jewish wealth is fascinating. Did you know that 5 of the top 10 American billionaires are at least part Jewish (Zuckerberg, Ellison, Page, Brin, Bloomberg)? Cool!

But we’re getting off track here. The important thing is that nobody can make the argument that, like White Privilege is proved by White Wealth, Jewish Privilege is proved by Jewish Wealth … because the entire concept of “Jewish wealth” automatically engages the brain’s entire crimestop function.

Ms. Mallory denied that she disparaged Ms. Wruble’s Jewish heritage in that meeting, but acknowledged telling white women there that she did not trust them.

“They are not trustworthy,” she said, adding that Ms. Wruble gossiped behind the backs of the other march leaders instead of confronting them when she had an issue. “Every single one of us has heard things that offended us. We still do the work.”

Cat Fight!

Anyway, the solution to this kind of infighting is, as always, to unify the Coalition of the Fringes by ginning up more hatred for The Gentile White Male Other: Emonahanal Havenstein. Nobody who is anybody objects when you engage in blatant anti-whitism. Unlike anti-semitism, anti-whitism isn’t even a word, so feel free to be as anti-white as you want because nobody would dare object.

 
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  1. Luke Lea says:

    I suppose they could call it Jewish privilege to distinguish it from white privilege. Ashkenazi males would be at the bottom of the totem pole.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @AnotherDad
  2. We were targets of Anti Semitism right from the beginning. It is a non sense to think that Jews are privileged the way most Whites are.
    Jews work hard and reach the top unlike other ethnicities who are now whining about “Reverse Racism”
    White wealth is 16 times that of Black wealth and I don’t know any bigger reason to redistribute wealth in America along Racial Lines.

    • LOL: Tusk
    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Anonym
    , @Bubba
    , @rbbe Brod
  3. Well, youtube let me down on this one, but there is that scene in Patton where Montgomery’s army runs into Patton’s army also parading around Messina, Sicily, both of them basking in glory of the local people.

    Actually it’ll be nothing like that, but more of a case of not enough eggs to throw at both crowds… decisions, decisions …

  4. songbird says:

    Trial by combat, and you can pick your champions. Avoid the larger battle. Isn’t that the way they used to do it in ancient times?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  5. Jewish people have the most white privilege followed next by white Catholics. People of a White Protestant background have absolutely no white privilege. In fact they face major discrimination as Ron Unz has outlined in The Myth of Meritocracy.

  6. Rich says:
    @Michael Krauthammer

    You’re right, when those palefaces got off the Mayflower,the Injuns were handing out gold, they didn’t have to work at all. Didn’t have to clear the land, build towns and cities, fight a revolution and organize a nation,it was all handed down by that angel Moroni, I guess. And the millions of Irish, Polish, German, Dutch, Swedish, Italian, Scottish, etc., etc. immigrants, they didn’t have to work for anything. Only you guys. And you wonder why other ethnic groups start to dislike you, huh?

  7. This is the tempest long foretold—
    Slow to make head but sure to hold.

    — Rudyard Kipling

    As long foreseen by Steve, it seems we are finally arriving at the endgame of Jewish-sponsored diversity: the point where Jewish leaders were planning to have that little sidechat with their POC allies to remind them that Jews aren’t really “white”, but now they are finding out that POCs aren’t interested in such fine distinctions—or worse that if they are interested in fine distinctions, it is because they regard Jews as extra-culpable.

    If only the sponsors of the diversity heresy had foreseen this themselves! Or if they had at least heeded the prophet crying in the SoCal wilderness! But alas, they were too busy denouncing him as “a reprellnt filth”.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  8. Visually I think of it like this:

    https://youtu.be/VAqIVVG1FQc

    The Jewish women are represented by the young lady in video who breaks out the shovel.

    • Replies: @reactionry
  9. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Tikkun Olam Jews ‘repair the world’ like Grandpa Munster restored old cars:

    They turn it into a place unfit for anyone else.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  10. Good Heavens! What is this world coming to when womyn of color, the transgendered and bored upper middle class Beckys refuse to recognize the Chosenettes as the top of the victim hierarchy now and forever?

  11. We appreciate power, sweet-haaaaht.

  12. Paul says:

    How many ethnically cleansed, indigenous Palestinian women will be invited to the march?

    Do not take seriously the morally preening organizers of these marches.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  13. The Women’s March seems to have a lot of internecine power struggles and disputes about central messaging for what I was told was an organic, grassroots response to the election of Bad Orange Man. I don’t remember the Tea Party having similar internal conflicts. In fact, I don’t remember its having had leaders or a formal structure at all. Strange, that.

    • Replies: @Carol
  14. Isn’t it funny to think the hard Left used to be considered cold, brutally unemotional and too rational? “Moscow does not believe in tears”. Well fifty years of the New Left and we have all this. If May ’68 and the Summer of Love really were astroturfed by guys at Stanford to smash the Old Left, I have to say they accomplished their mission.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  15. @Rich

    Michael Krauthammer is 100% pure troll/bit. Don’t waste your time.

    • Replies: @onetwothree
  16. Results of an online quiz that gauges your attitude towards cultural Marxism. Higher scores ==> more favorable attitudes:

    The fact that the female median is so much higher than the male median (about 1.33 standard deviations higher) is one of the remarkable features of this test. The difference is statistically significant, and in fact the female scores are situated almost entirely in the upper half of the score distribution.

    http://iq-tests-for-the-high-range.com/statistics/cinema.html

  17. “Do Jews Have White Privilege or Are They Victims?”

    Yes.

    Well, actually you could say they have a special privilige that trumps all others.

  18. Hail says: • Website

    By Farah Stockman

    Her unfairly unflattering NYT bio-pic:

    Farah’s previous four published articles (Nov. 29 to Dec. 11) are unsympathetic reporting on the case of political prisoner James Fields of the Charlottesville trial.

    I must say I assumed she was Jewish. It appears she is not.

    Bio:
    – b. 1974 most likely in the Washington, D.C., area (father employed at Silver Spring, Maryland, 1973-1982). Wiki has her born in East Lansing, Michigan without a reliable source. This is unlikely, as her father’s CV places him in the DC area in these years with no connection to Michigan until the ’80s.
    – Full name is Farah Nisa Stockman
    – Graduated high school in East Lansing, 1992 (metro area still 82% White in 2010)
    – Harvard class of 1996
    – In 2013 married Gene Corbin (a white man), Assistant Dean of Public Service at Harvard until May 2018; Gene Corbin is currently a PhD candidate in Boston
    – Stockman and Corbin live in Cambridge, Massachusetts; child born circa 2016

    Her biographical surprise, from a 2016 interview:

    Stockman’s parents, George and Ida Stockman, are both retired Michigan State University professors. Farah Stockman said her parents, an interracial couple who wed in the late 1960s, have influenced her work.

    Picture in 1974 as a baby (in father’s arms):

    Farah Stockman on her parents:

    “My mother is a black woman who grew up in Jim Crow Mississippi and attended segregated schools. My father is a white guy from Pennsylvania who did not attend segregated schools,” she said.

    (Parenthetically, note the subtle denigration of the white father, ‘guy’ vs. ‘woman;’ note also that he is defined by what he “did not” do.)

    Stockman is supposedly sometimes a Jewish name but it seems unlikely that the father is Jewish. The father retired from Michigan State in 2011. He graduated with a bachelor’s in math education from East Stroudsburg (Penn.) State College in 1966 and went onto Harvard, Penn State, and Maryland (PhD). Taught Computer Science at Michigan State from when Farah was age 8 (1982); before that worked in DC area and for two years in Richmond, including the year he married his Black wife (1969).

    The journalist-daughter’s given names ‘Farah’ and ‘Nisa’ are both Muslim-esque names but it appears she has no recent Muslim ancestry, either. That she feels close affinity for her Subsaharan African ancestry is maybe borne out by the fact that she spent three years of her 20s in Kenya.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Anonym
    , @anon
  19. A very important rule when dealing with minorities and marginalized people…do not refer to them as “You People.” Sets them off like nothing else.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Cloudbuster
  20. anon[147] • Disclaimer says:

    That’s an interesting question. I guess the answer depends upon where they fall in the progressive stack. Does Jewish male > feminist female?

    “Feminist Tries To Get Progressive Podcaster Fired For Defending White Men”

    Feminist says white men shouldn’t be considered for the democratic 2020 primary. Claims women do best. White male Jewish podcaster asks if that’s not discriminatory. Spited female calls his employer. Tattles on him for mansplaining.

  21. Wierdo says:

    Meanwhile Jewish admissions officers at Harvard save a place for David Hogg and his 1270 SAT score.

    See that y’all, huwhyte priveledge!

    #crackabegettinalldembreaks

  22. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    Film-review-slash-opinion-piece by Farah Stockman (Boston Globe, Nov. 2014):

    ‘Dear White People’ or ‘Dear Bougie Black People’?

    Dear White People” was a comedy-drama about Black students at an Ivy League university. (Despite this being Steve Sailer’s beat, he appears to have never reviewed or commented upon this film.)

    Farah clearly identifies with the racial themes of the movie:

    Excerpt:

    [MORE]

    Clashes over race have not disappeared. They’ve simply gotten more personal. Although “Dear White People” leaves much to be desired in terms of plot and character development, it speaks to the zeitgeist of this era: Nearly every romance in the movie is interracial. But that doesn’t produce racial harmony. Instead, the main character, a sexy Angela Davis type, fights to protect her black dorm from integration. She rings a gong when white students walk into the cafeteria, including her own white lover. Then a rich white kid throws a party called “Release Your Inner Negro.” All hell proceeds to break loose.

    On the surface, “Dear White People” appears to warn whites about liberties they shouldn’t take, even in age of alleged post-raciality: (Dressing in blackface, fondling a stranger’s afro, and dismissing a nerdy black guy as “only technically black” are all no-nos, in case you’re wondering.)

    But, despite its name, the movie doesn’t really speak to white people. Instead, it explores the angst felt by blacks who occupy a mostly-white world: What does it mean to be black if you’re affluent, popular, and the son of the college dean? How black can you be if you love “Star Trek?’’ Or Mumford and Sons? Or your own white father? And how big a role should race play anyway in determining our identity in an era that preaches that race shouldn’t matter?

    The truth is, the deepest dilemmas in this movie are caused not by white rejection, but acceptance.

    Note on the title:

    bougie
    [boo-jee]
    adjective Slang.

    relating to or characteristic of a person who aspires to the upper middle class or a fancy lifestyle:
    He spends too much on bougie stuff he can’t afford.

    haughty; elitist; snobbish.

    Also bour·gie [bur-jee, boo-jee] /ˈbɜr dʒi, ˈbu dʒi/.
    Origin of bougie2
    1965–70, Americanism ; shortening and alteration of bourgeois1

    This word squeezed itself into Webster’s dictionary this year along with ‘hangry.’

  23. Kinda like how LeBron James gets a pat on the back and praise for nonsense about the white privilege of slave master sports franchise owners, but is bashed if he talks about Jewish wealth. Honest, it really happened….and this week, too!

  24. istevefan says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Just don’t take them into the GOP. If the nonwhites kick them out, let them remain in the wilderness. Recall what happened the last time the GOP welcomed dissident leftists. The neocons basically took over, hijacked our foreign policy and still have not been removed. I hate to think what these womyn would do if they were brought into GOP inc .

  25. So far no one, however Jewish or hostile, challenges me when I say:

    “Take the Jews out of ‘White privilege’ and see how much White privilege is left.”

    Try it.
    🙂

  26. The. question with the more obvious answer of course is ‘do whites have Jewish privileges or are they too victims?’

  27. @Luke Lea

    ‘I suppose they could call it Jewish privilege to distinguish it from white privilege. Ashkenazi males would be at the bottom of the totem pole.’

    …and they’d have to have Jewish mothers to boot. That’s pretty merciless.

  28. We are told that “White Privilege” accounts for the income gap between Blacks and Whites. From this fact, we can easily calculate an objective Privilege Quotient (PQ) for each group.

    Blacks, by definition, have zero privilege and they earn about $40K per capita. So this must be the baseline against which “privilege” is measured.

    A PQ score, like IQ, can then be normed on the general White population with White Privilege being 100, by definition.

    Since Whites have per capita income of about $60K, one PQ point is earned for each $200 per year over the “zero privilege” baseline of $40K. (($60K-$40K) ÷ 100 = $200).

    Jews earn about $120K per capita, so their PQ Score is a robust 400. (($120K-$40K) ÷ $200) = 400.)

    In other words, Jews have 400% more privilege than whites. Or, if you prefer, “Jewish Prilvilege” is four-times stronger than “White Privilege.”

    • Replies: @Lot
  29. The “black antisemitism” deployed by the likes of Tamika Mallory and Carmen Perez is a sort of career strategy, a power move in the factional struggle for predominance and resources within the American progressive movement, to settle who owes what to whom. It’s a bludgeon to psychologically and ideologically stupefy, intimidate, disarm and overwhelm the naïve white and Jewish liberals of the Women’s March. Message: it is past time for Jews to join whites in American progressivism’s big tent of collective racial guilt and shame. You owe us too!” I blog about it in “Fox Force Five and the Great ‘Women’s March’ Heist: Antisemitism as Career Strategy” here: https://naimisha_forest.silvrback.com/fox-force-five

    As for the bogus historical claim that Jews had some special role in the slave trade, the key point is that “the African slave trade was a global partnership between the African elites who for centuries hunted, captured and exported tens of millions of their own countrymen, and the Middle Eastern, European and North and South American elites who bought them. The Islamic slave trade accounted for almost half the slaves exported out of Africa between 800 and 1900 CE. It would hardly be a surprise if some Jewish elites profited from the slave trade, alongside so many others. But to accuse Jews of some special historical guilt that was not shared by African kings and warlords, Arab sheikhs and white plantation owners is the very definition of antisemitism.” For those interested in the history of African slavery, I blog about it in “My folks sell me and yo folks buy me – Kanye West, ‘Baracoon’ and some history of African slavery,” here: https://naimisha_forest.silvrback.com/my-folks-sell-me-and-yo-folks-buy-me

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Cloudbuster
    , @HA
  30. We all agree whites are sub-human.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  31. @Buffalo Joe

    ‘A very important rule when dealing with minorities and marginalized people…do not refer to them as “You People.” Sets them off like nothing else.’

    …but setting them off is fun. And they enjoy it too.

  32. “Tamika Mallory, a black gun control activist”

    Reminds me of a gun rights organization in Illinois, “Conceal Carry” (I think) that issued a public statement that they wouldn’t sell guns to Blacks (They had a Federal Firearms License to allow firearms transfers.). They said that if a Black rights organization, like the NAACP or Jesse Jackson Sr. asked them, they would lift their ban.

    They never got a single request from the Blacks, showing what a fraud Black “civil rights” people are.

    • Replies: @ringo
  33. Svigor says:

    Anyway, the solution to this kind of infighting is, as always, to unify the Coalition of the Fringes by ginning up more hatred for The Gentile White Male Other: Emonahanal Havenstein. Nobody who is anybody objects when you engage in blatant anti-whitism. Unlike anti-semitism, anti-whitism isn’t even a word, so feel free to be as anti-white as you want because nobody would dare object.

    Objecting to hatred of or racism against Whites is anti-semitic via the Disparate Impact Property; Jews disproportionately engage in both, so objecting to or even noticing either is problematic and therefore verboten.

    ‘Course this makes anti-semitism a moral imperative, but who’s counting?

  34. …whether [Jews] should be counted as privileged white Americans or “marginalized” minorities, especially in the aftermath of the October mass shooting in Pittsburgh, when 11 people were gunned down at their synagogue.

    If how many of your group get regularly gunned down is good for Pokemon points, I don’t think Jews can compete with blacks.

    Ms. Wruble said she did not dwell on the issue because she wanted to work together on the march

    I thought progressives prided themselves on calling other people out for their bigotry at every opportunity. I guess that rule is waived under some circumstances.

  35. donut says:

    “We waz kangz ” The joke is on us .

  36. @Wierdo

    An 85th percentile score.

    Given Harvard’s inflated grading curve these days (an A- mean), and given that some meaningful proportion of his matriculating cohort at Harvard would likely have scored no better than a 1270 without the benefit of SAT prep classes, I think he’ll be fine.

    • Replies: @Hail
  37. Polynikes says:

    Could a male get away with publicly calling Jews “sneaky?”

  38. @Wierdo

    Harvard has a tendency to admit people whom they consider newsworthy, or are children of people whom they consider newsworthy. This has been true for several decades at least. My brother went to Harvard and had a number of classmates who were children of notable people. For example, my brother dated the daughter of one of the most powerful men in Washington for a while. They never told her father. He had a tendency to threaten her suitors with having them disappeared. If I told you his name, you would know he probably could have that happen.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  39. @Naimisha Forest

    Ethnic Jews were big in the early slave trade to Brazil and Surinam, but not all that many other places. Of course, having Brazil on your conscience ought to be a big weight, but barely any American Jews have ever thought about Jewish involvement in setting up the sugar and slaves system in Brazil.

  40. Roger says: • Website

    A large part of the Jewish religion is a belief that Jews are a persecuted minority. Just look at the Exodus Passover and Nazi Holocaust stories, and how important these are to Jews. The belief is a significant of what binds Jews together. Jews could all be millionaires, and they would still maintain this belief.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  41. Sentinel says:

    OF COURSE they have white privilege. The privilege of being treated as white by whites.

    And THEY know they don’t deserve it.

  42. Hail says: • Website
    @PiltdownMan

    How do you know David Hogg did not have SAT prep classes?

    I think he’ll be fine

    He may be fine, but the hundreds of thousands of graduating high school seniors above him but not now allowed in — they’re out of luck and not quite as fine.

    “Hey, 1400 SAT guy rejected from Harvard; on your next incarnation on this earthly plane be sure to virtue signal a lot louder. Loser.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  43. Lot says:
    @Steve Sailer

    My conscience/hereditary guilt: clear and none, assuming these were even valid concepts.

    Most American Jews are Ashkenazi and thus more closely related to Italians than to the Sephardi, who appear to be the Jews involved in the slave trade. And Italians did more than most to repress slavery by their constant wars against the slaving Ottomans and their Barbary State kidnappy vassals.

  44. Lot says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Jews don’t make 120k per capita.

    That suggests the average Jewish family of four has a household income of 480,000, well into the top 1%. However, Jews are well more than 1% of the population.

    As far as I know, there are no reliable stats on this question.

    A large and growing share of the Jewish population are Hasidics and Ultra-orthodox who mostly have low incomes and huge families.

  45. Jews have been claiming for a few years now that they are not white.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  46. Svigor says:
    @Roger

    Eternal victimhood = eternally primed for aggression + eternal dindunuffins + eternal moral high ground + etc. It’s why “the Jew cries out as he strikes you” is such a popular meme.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  47. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Better idea: disempower Harvard by not hiring or voting for their grads.

    If Harvard attendance were a positive liability politically ambitious pols would quit going. And they might be inclined to take a whack at that fat juicy hedge fund or make Harvard do like Hillsdale and go no-government-aid.

  48. Svigor says:
    @Lot

    Most American Jews are Ashkenazi and thus more closely related to Italians than to the Sephardi, who appear to be the Jews involved in the slave trade. And Italians did more than most to repress slavery by their constant wars against the slaving Ottomans and their Barbary State kidnappy vassals.

    Wait, what now? Did you just transfer innocence from Italians to Jews? And how, exactly? I’ll stipulate we can just skip right past the Roman Empire.

    My conscience/hereditary guilt: clear and none

    You don’t say…

  49. ringo says:
    @Joe Stalin

    If gun control is a good thing…. let’s give it to blacks (a sort of affirmative action) and deny it to whites?

    Reminds me of a tack for anti-abortion advocates that I had thought of some years ago for amusement.
    Suppose the Right to Life movement or Catholics or White Evangelicals said, we believe abortion is wrong for Catholics or Evangelicals, and we want to discourage it at all costs….. but, on the other hand, it’s okay for blacks…. in fact… we’re okay if the government subsidizes their abortions and promotes it in black-majority public schools. I wonder what the response would be from the Pro-Choice people.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    , @Reg Cæsar
  50. @Steve Sailer

    Jews were pretty big in the Egyptian, Babylonian and Roman slave trades too.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @anon
    , @Anonymous
  51. @Rich

    Life was much more easier back in those days. America was built upon the idea of “White Supremacy”.
    Blacks were considered 2nd class citizens.
    Jews were frequently attacked by KKK and other Christian groups as well. Jews are the most intelligent, entrepreneurial , industrious and sympathetic group in America. We want wealth distribution and it will benefit Poor Whites as well.
    Until 1960s , America was an entity whose job was to make life “Great” for Caucasians.
    You are lying.

  52. @MikeatMikedotMike

    From Obama’s shovel-ready projects to shovel-ready projection?

    Also see: Oppenheimer, Doomsday Clock, We are doomed, I am become Derb, “with enough shovels,” We will Barry (no, not Goldwater – Obama) you, Neocon force projection, forcing gentrification of Cabrini-Green projects, First as tragedy, then as…oh never mind…don’t wanna’ farce the issue

  53. istevefan says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Didn’t they also participate in the Crimean Slave trade of Russians/Ukrainians?

  54. Anonymous[198] • Disclaimer says:

    White women see themselves as victims. All of their fellow “victims” disagree.

    Hang together or hang separately.

  55. Morality is not universal. Morality is a prescription for behavior that is most likely to achieve satisfaction for individuals and for the society the individuals live within. Societies in America do not have uniform moralities, because the tribes that make America have different objectives, measures, and prescriptions for success. Politics is all about reconciling moralities, through compromise and extermination. America is now facing a crisis in reconciliation. Exacerbating existing tribal conflicts through large-scale immigration is not a short term solution, and will not likely lead to a desirable long term solution, for any party. Liquidation of unattractive moralities through massive immigration or civil conflict is an unholy grail, an extremely unlikely event pursued at titanic cost. The contesting moralities are well protected with considerable support. Once all or at least most parties recognize this fact, if ever, a compromise may be possible. Because significant restrictions on legal and illegal immigration are a likely if not necessary part of any realistic compromise, I am not optimistic.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  56. @Michael Krauthammer

    Jews are most industrious when it comes to blowing smoke up their own asses. And how do you folks treat the Palestinians? How are hypocrisy options doing this week?

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
  57. @Svigor

    Amazing, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @reactionry
  58. slumber_j says:
    @Rich

    Yeah, that’s a troll right there. It’s all so moronic I can hardly be bothered to think about it.

    Nevertheless you’re right of course. As you indicate, think about how hard it was for those first arrivals, and how many of them died over that first nightmarish winter–and what it was like for the survivors. Only then may you talk to me about “privilege.”

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  59. The name Wruble seemed oddly familiar…

    Yes! Allie Wrubel, composer of Song of the South!

    https://www.songhall.org/profile/Allie_Wrubel

    • Replies: @reactionry
  60. Is the plan never to divulge Black Lives Matter’s platform, to keep it free from criticism? There is a local school fundraising drive related to BLM, and I tried to figure out the goals and tenets, but it was all very vague.

  61. @Reg Cæsar

    My wife will be cooking a tiny duck for our Christmas dinner. (2.8 lbs) I am looking forward to watching it get roasted.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  62. anon[351] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Some down Colombia way say that they’re still pretty big in the Slave Trade.

  63. Art says:

    It is understandable why Jew women are such ardent feminists and hate men so much. Of all the white-Euro-males, Jews have treated their women with the greatest contempt. They historically treated them like chattel – and they are never faithful.

    If you want to be a sexist pig – read the Talmud.

    If you lived under that regime – you would be a feminist too.

  64. David Yulee could not be reached for comment on the uppity Negress’ claims.

  65. @Lot

    Most American Jews are Ashkenazi and thus more closely related
    to Italians …

    That’s some slick alchemy, converting shekels to guineas!

    • LOL: Anonym
  66. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Western Narrative is stuck on Minority = Marginalized. This is odd considering the history of Western Imperialism where the rule was Minority = Might + Privilege. Just ask the Hindus and Muslims who lived under British. The Indonesians who lived under Dutch. Filipinos who lived under Spanish. Or Latin America where brown masses still live under white minority rule. Or South Africa prior to the end of Apartheid; Blacks lived under white minority rule.
    And in class terms, even homogeneous nations were ruled by the class/caste minority. Japanese majority of peasants were ruled by minority samurai. European serfs and peon majority were ruled by aristocratic minority. Bourgeoisie ruled over the Proles in 19th century Britain and France.

    Also, Jewish troubles as a minority in goy nations were just ONE SIDE of the story. True, being a minority, they could be set upon by the majority. But as a talented & intensely tribal minority, they often had wealth/privilege/influence far beyond the unwashed masses whose lives were soil and toil. And it’s the same with the Chinese minorities in SE Asian nations. In some ways, they are vulnerable minorities who could be attacked by mobs during times of social crises. But they are also a very privileged group that buys a lot of influence with local politicians.

    Also, whites began in America as a minority. As early pioneers just filling up the East Coast, they were outnumbered by American Indian natives… just like Zionist settlers were initially outnumbered by the native Palestinian majority. But more and more came and became the majority.

    Look at California, and we see Minority = Mighty instead of Minority = Marginalized. Whites are now a minority in CA, but they still control most of Silicon Valley, Hollywood, and Agro-business. And a minority within a minority — Jews among whites — have the most power. (Granted, middle class, working class, and lower class whites don’t belong to the White-Might-Minority.)
    So, maybe it’s about time we do away with the notion of Minority = Marginalized. Yes, a minority could be marginalized, like Russians in Ukraine or Tibetans in China. But, there have been too many historical examples in which minorities ruled over majorities. In the Roman Empire, Romans were mighty minorities in their colonies and had iron power over the native majorities.

    In some cases, the minority could be the invasive people.
    In some cases, the majority could be the invasive people.
    In India, the British were the invasive minorities.
    In California, the non-white immigrant folks have become the invasive majority.

    California truly came into being as a white majority state. Prior to white development of California, it was essentially nothing but wilderness or outpost of scant Mexican settlement. So, True California came into existence with white settlement. So, whites are the true native majority of Modern California. And yet, whites got lax and put down the gun to soak up the sun. They lost their warrior-conqueror-pioneer spirit. They took up surf boards and neglected the wall. They let in tons of browns and yellows while taking it easy. Also, excessive individualism and hedonism undermined family and crashed birthrates among whites. PC robbed them of pride and right of existence. So,whites went from majority native population to minority native population whereas the immigrants, brown and yellow, became the majority invasive population. (One can argue that Mexicans are the true natives of California, but most browns there came from Mexico AFTER whites built it into a modern state. So, these late-coming Mexicans are not native to CA.) Still, CA is still mostly owned and ruled by the white minority.

    Anyway, Jews = Minority + Mighty. And when we look at history, it’s nothing new. History is filled so many cases of Minority Might. Syria, for one, is ruled by the Alawites. And prior to US invasion of Iraq, it was ruled by Sunni minority. And I believe current Rwanda is ruled by Tutsi minority.

    As for Jewish women, they are richer and more privileged than the men of most races.

  67. @istevefan

    Possibly, but not as slaves

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  68. moshe says:

    As you know, I personally have a problem with your selective reporting on matters Semitic because my Jewish Wealth has yet to arrive so I’m not even Benefitting from the billions that Ellison (who?) and the other members of Class Jew apparently have access to as they help each other scoop up diamonds here and there.

    For me, this is a class issue rather than an ethnic one and maybe you see it that way too and your point is about selective reporting or whatever. But that’s definitely not the emotional reaction your JRoss(es) are getting from your “reporting” about (what appears to him and the likes of him) as a Jewish Conspiracy Against Goyim.

    On this isssue as on others you are pretty much Always looking for the worst piece of writing on some select sibject and the scariest way to read that writing.

    The Jewish Privilege thing is a public subject of comedy both by Jews and by non-Jews. Or at least by non-Jews with talent and brains enough to know that you don’t go after Very Specific people upon whom your mediocre talents rely for your fame, like that hispanic reporter guy who said that He’s a victim but Jews Aren’t because his bosses look like Jon Stewart (or whatever). What’s his face isn’t Jewish

    but still did this. Speaking of which, McFarlane seems to have a pretty good wig that he doesn’t ever change and for some reason hairpieces are really accepted among the glitzy and not generally mentioned except in a fight. Also facelifts or whatever they’re called.

    Between MacFarlane’s hair and Wahlberg’s Eternal Eyebrows Of Concern, how the hell is “Being Able To Afford To Look Younger Than Your Chronology” not a Privilege? And I ask that as well as a non-disinterested individual. Granted I’ve done no research on the subject but I recently showed someone a picture of me from about 15 years ago and was surprised to find that I apparently do not look precisely the same. Well that sucks. I still ACT like a 12 year old, why don’t I at least look I did at 21?

    So, are affordable and sufficiently MacFarlane’y ignorable hairpieces a thing? Not that I’m bald praise Ahlah but I’d be willing to be for a quality rug like that. Wahlberg’s inability to make expressions I can do without but other than Peawl Pcweam and a fortune how do I undo the fact that people obly underguesstimate my age by a friendly 5 years rather than a more preferable 15?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Grace Jones
  69. Pericles says:
    @Svigor

    Insert image of sled with Sephardi thrown to the wolves.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  70. @istevefan

    I agree 100%. No more New-Left refugees!

  71. Tyrion 2 says:

    Jews nost certainly do not have “white privilege”.

    This is an easy argument to make because “white privilege” does not exist. “White privilege” is a stupid conspiracy theory at best or an ode to African hex magic at worst.

    People wouldn’t fight tooth and claw to not be defined as white if there were any “privilege” in it. Nor would individuals be constantly pretending to be non-white. Even high status people like “Beto”, Fauxcohontas and Benjamin Jealous try to be otherwise classified. Barrack Obama was supposedly the first “black President”. Yet he was exactly as white as black.

    Given that there is open and boastful discrimination against white people in all major institutions in our society, there is actually “white burden”. And it is true that most Jews do share in that. There is a small and fairly ineffective get out clause where you invoke the Holocaust like this article or whatever, but if you have to counter something with the attempted eradication of your grandparents’ generation then calling it a “privilege” is completely dystopian.

    Repeat after me: “I have white burden. White burden is where if people who don’t look like me ever do worse in any way than people who do look like me, on average, then I must be punished.”

    Nor is that the end of it. It is also “if anything goes wrong anywhere or has gone wrong anywhere then it is the fault of people who look like me, therefore I must be punished. In does not even matter if only people who don’t look like me were involved. Their faults are the fault of people who look like me and therefore they are my fault”.

    Finally, “I must never recognise this as a burden or a punishment. I must instead welcome this all with great joy. It is actually my liberation and I, the wretched white, must make shows of ecstasy about all of the above and be ever grateful for such fine treatment. Indeed, anything else is the cardinal sin of racism for which I will be (and should be) immediately ostracised from society. Such is the tremendous advantange of white privilege.”

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
  72. “The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and the Jews,” a 1991 book by Mr. Farrakhan, which asserts that Jews were especially culpable

    The author(s) is(are) anonymous. Having not seen it, I can’t vouch for its academic bona fides, but I think we can rule Farrakhan out.

  73. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @Doktor Jeep

    They want to hunt with the hounds and run with the fox.

  74. George says:

    “Nobody ever talks about Jewish wealth. ”

    Should read: Nobody ever talks about Jewish wealth except antisemites. BTW, any discussion of whatever Protestant sect Bill Gates is? I bet Gates is not the only such billionaire of said sect. At this point, the largest population of white skinned people are East Asians, leaving out the Central Asians. Europeans should rebrand from white to alternate hair and eye colors.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
  75. @Buffalo Joe

    Heh. I was running a training class for a company up in the Detroit area. Mostly White employees, but class included a couple Blacks, including an immigrant Black guy.

    At one point, referring to the staff of one of the other trainee’s (a White guy) department, the Black guy calls them, “you people.” The White guy immediately responds “What do you mean ‘you people’?”

    There was amusement all around and the Black guy was suitability chagrined.

  76. @Neil Templeton

    We (all of us) are in a sort of low level war of attrition just now. It’s sort of like WW I, when last nation in Europe wanted a battlefield test to determine which was stronger and which of the new nitrogen based explosive weapons really worked, except this time it’s global trade and cheap transport that have put all the world into contact and competition. How do I know it’s a war? Well, one side is calling for genocide. It’s either a war or a massacre, and I’ll leave it to the reader to decide which.

    Wars of attrition usually end with one party unable to continue and all parties severely debilitated. They seldom end in compromise, due to the “sunk cost fallacy” — “We have sacrificed so much, it can’t have been for nothing! One more push . . .” Serious attrition wars tend to last several decades, until all those interested in fighting and their descendants have been killed off. Society then re configures in a way none of the original combatants would have wanted. Examples: 30 Years War, Peloponnesian War. Longer conflicts have occurred, the one between the Romans and Persians lasting for centuries.
    But in almost all cases wars of attrition end with a transformation neither side wanted. Vietnam War: US transformed into something that would have horrified pre-war Left and Right in the US, and Vietnam transformed into an essentially non-Communist country making its living by cheap labor and agricultural exports. The social capital to even conceive of the Utopia both sides fought for was destroyed during the war.
    To re-phrase: all sides in the current attrition conflict are destroying social infrastructure, a process rather like getting rid of the roaches in the kitchen with flamethrowers. The roaches do go, but so does the kitchen, the house, and quite likely the family as it loses the house it needs to live. Similar things have happened before, quite a few times.
    Sometimes the flamethrowers are a good idea, of course. If the house is wood and rotting, then burning it down is one way to clear the site. However, remember to get outside before starting the fire, and to have enough resources to rebuild, and to burn the house in Spring rather than Winter so you complete construction early enough to avoid freezing. Metaphorically, of course.
    Remember also: Warfare, especially attrition warfare, doesn’t decide who is right. It decides who is left.
    Also: Nobody asked me about whether attrition warfare is a good idea. I didn’t ever want this and I don’t want it now. It’s sort of like death and head colds: nobody wants them, but they come to everybody. The question is how to cope.

    Counterinsurgency

  77. @Lot

    A bucket of multi-millionaires and a handful of billionaires can seriously throw off a gross statistic like “per capita.”

  78. @Naimisha Forest

    “The very definition of antisemitism” seems to be “anything that reflects poorly on Jews in any way.”

  79. George says:

    http://tamikadmallory.com/bio/
    Tamika D. Mallory is a mother to her teenage son, an esteemed social justice leader, advocate and activist.

    landing Tamika on the 2017 Time 100 Pioneers list as well as Fortune’s 2017 list of the World’s Greatest Leaders.

    Turns out the worlds greatest leader claim is true:
    Tamika Mallory, Linda Sarsour, Bob Bland, and Carmen Perez
    http://fortune.com/worlds-greatest-leaders/tamika-mallory-linda-sarsour-bob-bland-and-carmen-perez-34/

    If you wish to hire her to organize your event:

    As the president of Mallory Consulting, a strategic planning and event management firm, Tamika has worked with Fortune 500 corporations and organizations

    Maybe the Alt right should take the hint and hire Mallory Consulting for the Unite The Right II, This Time We’re Doing It Right, March. Which would subcontract security to the Nation of Islam (NOI trumps AntiFa on intersectionality and does a good job).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamika_Mallory

    Tamika Danielle Mallory (born June 8, 1980[1]) is an activist and the national co-chair for the Women’s March. She is an advocate of gun control, feminism, and the Black Lives Matter movement.

    The picture on her WP page shows her plugging #TaxMarch – Some combination of demanding to see The Donald’s personal tax returns and to tax the rich more, which I assume is unpopular with rich people many of whom are Jewish.

    https://taxmarch.org/about/

    • Replies: @George
  80. Anonymous[269] • Disclaimer says:

    The bridge between left and right makes a nice counterpoint to all this catfighting:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/opinion/bari-weiss-eve-peyser-friendship.html

    Can You Like the Person You Love to Hate?

    Bari Weiss and Eve Peyser were Twitter enemies. Then they met.

    … EVE: We also connected over our Jewish upbringings, being women writers …

  81. George says:
    @George

    I was just trolling when I tossed NOI into my suggestion for the “Unite The Right II, This Time We’re Doing It Right, March” but it turns out:

    Why Tamika Mallory Won’t Condemn Farrakhan
    To those outside the black community, the Nation of Islam’s persistent appeal, despite its bigotry, can seem incomprehensible.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/nation-of-islam/555332/

    BTW, why is it that Black people have to denounce NOI but there is never a demand to denounce Rev Hagee et al or Israeli Settler leaders, ect?

    Understanding the roots of Tamika Mallory’s obsessive Jew-Hatred
    Why the Women’s March co-head hates Jews while adoring Farrakhan, Sharpton, and Sarsour.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/23207

  82. @Tyrion 2

    Yet he was exactly as white as black.

    He is arguably more White than Black, as he has Middle Eastern heritage on his father’s side. Whether you consider Middle Easterners White or not, they definitely are not Black.

  83. @George

    Should read: Nobody ever talks about Jewish wealth except antisemites.

    Apparently, talking about Jewish wealth makes you an anti-Semite.

  84. Anonym says:
    @Michael Krauthammer

    If you can’t have an avatar at least you could choose a suitably Jewy Christian name. Or is it a Jew name? Anyway pick something like Israel, Avigdor, Jonah, Chaim, even David would be better than Michael. Mordecai? As it is your troll account reeks of… dare I say it? Goyische Kopf.

    • Replies: @Old Jew
  85. Anonym says:
    @Hail

    Nasal bridge looks Jewish but if you look at the parents you can see it is a combo of mother and father. Width comes from the mother and depth from father. She uses more skin whitener than Michael Jackson.

    I’d wager father is at least part Ashkenazi. Darker features, “man” on end of surname, merchant-like expression, above average IQ and outmarriage tendency.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  86. Anonym says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Liz Cheney? Lives in Madison WI. 52.

  87. Anonym says:
    @Svigor

    Wait, what now? Did you just transfer innocence from Italians to Jews? And how, exactly?

    I think it works both ways. Those lovable Romans did nothing wrong! Razing and carting off is the sincerest form of admiration.

  88. Maybe Jews will stop leading the charge of so-called “White privilege” if we start condemning the accusation as anti-Semitic, since Jews–at least in theory–are disproportionately affected because they have the most privileged of all (wealth, money/power).

    • Replies: @Marty T
  89. Anonym says:

    We love pleb Jews here moshe. But seriously you need to up your financial game. Do you even Jew?

    Uber Jew

    Imitation Uber Jew

    Yeah, still Jewish and probably gets more ass than Larry Ellison.

    Diet Imitation Uber Jew

    Actually has more money than Diamont and more shiksa ass than he could f*** even if he were tag teaming with your d*** during the refractory periods. Tattoos as if to say, well, Judaism or shiksa ass, Judaism or shiksa ass, hmmm, why not, I’ll get some tattoos as well.

    And look at those luxurious NW1 manes of dark Hebraic hair, coupled with the sort of beard growth typically seen on beard trimmer packets. And money! Ok, where do you fit in?

    Jason Greenspan, a little warmer? At least sex is an affordable commodity for him.

  90. @MikeatMikedotMike

    And don’t waste your time trying to explain what a troll is and why you shouldn’t feed them. The regular posters here are unbelievably daft. It’s like children on their first visit to Usenet circa 1991.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  91. Edward says:

    They are tearing each other apart.

    In a few years’ time, if this really gets out of hand, we may see IQ-based coalitions. Jews and Asians, having been targeted due to their privilege, may join Whites in voting one way, with Blacks, Hispanics and Native Americans voting the other way.

    At least in the United States. In Britain, it’s not quite so bad. Yet.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anon
  92. o5432991 says:

    privileged white Americans or ‘marginalized’ minorities

    Maybe there are privileged minorities?

    • Agree: ben tillman
  93. @onetwothree

    We really are all far too stupid for you to bother with.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  94. Corvinus says:

    “Now Women’s March activists are grappling with how they treat Jews — and whether they should be counted as privileged white Americans or ‘marginalized’ minorities.”

    It’s a really simple answer–Jesus, as a non-white died on the cross for our sins. He was born a Jew, and later founded Christianity. He was marginalized along with his brethren (Jew AND Christian).

  95. My impression is that Jews bear the weight of white “Privilege” when they individually do something wrong, like Harvey Weinstein, but not as a group. So a bad Jew is White but a good Jew is Oppressed.

  96. George says:

    Rep Lewis Charles Levin, leader of the Know Nothings, duelist, and Jew.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Charles_Levin

    Levin was also physically aggressive. Foote explained Levin’s move from Woodville to Vicksburg as the result of a duel he had fought after giving a Fourth of July oration, which another man claimed to have written. Other accounts embellish the story to say that Levin’s accuser was his partner in the Woodville school, Alfred Bynum; that the two fought with rifles; that Bynum seriously wounded Levin, and that Levin’s second in the affair of honor was none other than Jefferson Davis.

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/272885/lewis-levin-wasnt-nice

    Rep David Yulee, Floridian, Confederate Fire Eater, an immigrant from St Thomas and a Jew. Maybe Lin-Manuel Miranda could do a second Caribbean themed musical to accompany Hamilton.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Levy_Yulee

    • Replies: @Jack D
  97. @Buzz Mohawk

    My wife will be cooking a tiny duck for our Christmas dinner. (2.8 lbs) I am looking forward to watching it get roasted.

    I quail at the thought.

    Tiny gets roasted enough here.

  98. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Pericles

    At least he didn’t throw truth to the wolves…

  99. Thea says:

    It will be fun to watch the trannies join this fray and eventually become the unvanquished winners. As future leaders, they can continue the fight for free birth control, abortion and tampons for women just like themselves.

  100. @Lot

    Most American Jews are Ashkenazi and thus more closely related to Italians than to the Sephardi…

    The Sephardim liked to marry their nieces. Would they be related to anybody, after generations of that?

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/43057881?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents

    https://statelaws.findlaw.com/rhode-island-law/rhode-island-annulment-and-prohibited-marriage-laws.html

    This may explain why Emma Lazarus was a nut.

    • Replies: @anon
  101. @Cagey Beast

    This guy adds nothing to the conversation but snark and derision– of other commenters:

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=onetwothree

    He makes Donut look like Emily Post.

    Did he get his screen name from the Jimmy Cagney movie, or from a list of “world’s worst passwords”?

  102. Do Jews Have White Privilege?

    It’s probably fair to say that only Jews have “white privilege”.

    • Agree: Svigor
  103. BenKenobi says:
    @ringo

    In the current year, such an act of religious protest would be like the monk setting himself on fire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be3BuBzRJSo&frags=pl%2Cwn

  104. Anonymous[529] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    What about the Radhanites?

  105. Anonymous[529] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Jews were pretty big in the Egyptian, Babylonian and Roman slave trades too.

    Do you have any references for this?

  106. Anonymous[529] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Ethnic Jews were big in the early slave trade to Brazil and Surinam, but not all that many other places.

    Um, Aaron Lopez?

  107. Anonymous[529] • Disclaimer says:
    @Edward

    In Britain, it’s not quite so bad. Yet.

    “it” being what?

  108. Currahee says:

    “We must create a society in which all women — including Black women, Indigenous women, poor women, immigrant women, disabled women, Muslim women, lesbian, queer and trans women — are free,”
    okay, okay and…
    -tatooed women
    -women w. bad hair
    -women w. back issues
    -red headed women
    o my, give me a minute…
    I’ll get back to you on this.

  109. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    George Barris (originally Salapatas) built the Munster Koach (out of 3 Model T bodies). It currently resides in his museum so it’s hard to say how much it is worth. But Barris’s Batmobile, which he built in 3 weeks for $30,000, went at auction for $4,620,000 in 2013. So if Tikkun Olam creates as much value as Barris’s car restorations, then I’ll take it. Barris Kustom Kars may not be your cup of tea, but some really love them.

  110. Bubba says:
    @Michael Krauthammer

    Is “Michael Krauthammer” a pseudonym for Bret Stevens or Bill Kristol? Anyway, if not, at least they are all in agreement to kick white folks out of America so they can exploit a new population.

  111. Jack D says:
    @Paul

    indigenous Palestinian women

    Are all Palestinian women indigenous or are there non-indigenous ones also, so that we have to distinguish between the indigenous and non-indigenous kind?

    How long do you or your ancestors have to live in a place before you become indigenous? Are white people always “colonialists” but brown people “indigenous” by definition? The Maori arrived in New Zealand circa 1300 AD – are they “indigenous”?

    I’m sure that there is a place in the march for ethnically cleansed, indigenous Palestinian women , especially since one of the co-leaders is Linda Sarsour:

    In fact they will be right up there at the head of the march.

    Sarsour was born in Brooklyn (just like me although I don’t dress like I was back home in the village) so does that make her an ethnically cleansed, indigenous Palestinian woman or some other kind, and if so, does that make me an ethnically cleansed indigenous European, since my ancestors arrived in Europe probably before Sarsour’s arrived in what is today Israel?

    There seems to be a certain amount of anti-Semitic (and therefore anti-Israel) sentiment on the alt-right but thankfully it seems to have a low tolerance for unthinking Leftist platitudes and slogans. You can make a case for the Palestinians but you aren’t going to automatically win just by stringing a bunch of
    the right “sympathetic” adjectives in front of their name.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Paul
    , @Paul
    , @Jim Christian
  112. Jack D says:
    @Cagey Beast

    The Summer of Love itself was supposedly quite sexist and racist:

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-ol-patt-morrison-william-schnabel-1967-revolution-20170613-htmlstory.html

    You still had a bunch of white guys calling the shots. In some ways it was MORE patriarchal than the old system – women were expected to make themselves sexually available and the men didn’t even have to provide much in return.

    Whatever we have now must come from some later time.

    • Replies: @anon
  113. Jack D says:
    @istevefan

    How is this supposed to work IRL? I understand that you can blackball Joos from your country club but how do you keep them out of the GOP?

    • Replies: @istevefan
  114. Anonymous[127] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Whoa, apparently you don’t know how the question of unity or lack therof of the Jewish people works in the Unziverse.

    If the topic at hand is whether American Ashkenazis at the bagel shop are guilty for Sephardic slave trading 400 years ago, then of course Jews are one people and ethnicity, united throughout history and forever.

    If the topic at hand is Israel and whether they have a legitimate national identity though, then of course Ashkenazis are Khazars, Sephardim are Spaniards, and those groups have absolutely no legitimate connection except one faked by the Zionist media.

    Get your situational reasoning in line!

  115. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer

    1. As Lot points out, these Jews were Sephardic and quite different from the Yiddish speaking Ashkenazim that most American Jews descend from. Different culturally, linguistically and even in many aspects of religious practice. As different as Irish are from Russians. Different enough that in earlier days they tended not to marry each other or attend the same synagogues even when they lived more or less side by side in the US – you were expected to marry in your own community and Ashkenazi Jews were not part of the Sephardic community nor vice versa. In Israel there have been some attempts to re-unify the branches of the religion but historically they were quite different. So blaming Ashkenazi Jews for the “sins” of Portuguese Jewish slavers makes as much sense as blaming Irishmen for the gulags.

    2. When you say early days, you mean really early. The Inquisition came to Dutch Brazil in 1654 when the Portuguese conquered it (and it had only been founded in 1630) so you are talking about a very small window of time and a very small # of people. It’s possible that Jews were among the 1st to pioneer the sugar business (Jews are often business pioneers) which included slave labor as one of its aspects but they did not dominate it for very long. Sugar itself (even the word) was introduced into Europe from Arab countries and Jews often were the link between the European and Muslim worlds. Others then copied the model that they had pioneered and turned it into the major economic driver of the Caribbean and all the lands that surrounded it.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @jbwilson24
  116. sayless says:
    @Lot

    “low incomes and huge families”;

    However, sometimes the marriages are conducted religiously but not registered civilly, in order to get SSI, SNAP, Medicare, and other benefits: She has seven children with no one to support her, on bureaucratic paper; meanwhile he’s studying Torah fulltime.

    See Lakewood, New Jersey.

  117. sayless says:
    @Michael Krauthammer

    Oh greetings and Well Come, Mike Krauthammer. There’s nothing like a fresh perspective.

  118. @songbird

    I was thinking along similar lines: We white guys are the people who actually make things work, get things done–the straw that stirs the drink–i could get four or five of my “white bro” friends together and we could cut some timber, do a little backhoe work and these gals could settle this as befits the content of character–with a good ol’fashioned no-holds-barred, hair pulling, crotch grabbing mud wrestling match. If these gals are game, this could be a paying proposition–pay-per-view.

    MAGA.

  119. @Luke Lea

    Privilege, schmivilege.

    Isn’t the obvious takehome–that most readers will draw–from these stories: diversity sucks!

    That Jews, blacks, muslims, Latinos, whites, Asians would be better off *in separate nations!*

    More stories like this please.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  120. Jack D says:
    @George

    Levin was a Methodist (he converted so was Jewish only by blood, not religion). Levin later became insane, possibly as a result of opium addiction and died young. Probably today he would be diagnosed as a manic-depressive.

    Rifles were an unusual but not entirely unknown form of dueling weapon:

    http://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/pair-dueling-rifles-reveal-their-story

    The increasing accuracy and lethality of firearms probably helped lead to the end of duelling. Duelling made a lot more sense when the weapon was an epee sword and the duel was over as soon as you drew first blood (this is the basis for the epee scoring system today). You could restore your honor without actually killing your opponent in most cases.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  121. rbbe Brod says:
    @Michael Krauthammer

    An examination of and a plea for nationalist leadership

I haven’t posted lately as I’ve been thinking.

    



    Insofar as the intellectual leadership of the white nationalist movement has been inspired by a spirited critique of the Semite led left, it has achieved great things in a short time. However, after the wholly unexpected victory of the coalition figure-headed by the orange headed man god bless him, we have stumbled on the threshold of our success and have lost direction. 

I feel it’s time for some honest self examination among the movement, sparing no ones sensibilities.

    



    Mr Trumps failures in leadership are a reflection of our own as a movement, and to move forward we must examine what I feel is a cognitive failure among us in the choice of leadership. Quite possibly of genetic origin!

Consider my comments as we begin the painful self-examination of the limits of our (your) Goyische kopfs and to point to a possible solution standing right in front of us that will lead to a to a new resolve to find a committed warrior for our people to move forward behind, at this, that may well be our Gotterdammerung (sorry, gutter German). 

Is there anyone in the present administration with a history of standing up to left wing lunacy, defending the victims of administrative savagery and the tenacity to continue to fight in the trenches when the rest of you ( I mean us) are wandering lost like sheep? 



    



  122. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    That … blacks… would be better off *in separate nations!

    Shoulda’ thought of that 300 years ago before you put these folks ancestors in chains and dragged them across the Atlantic.

    The idea of a separate nation in Africa for repatriated slaves goes back to the late 18th century but no one was ever able to get a large # of blacks to get back on the boat going the other way. It wasn’t practical then and it sure ain’t practical now.

    Earlier attempts at subdividing the US along racial lines led to a blood civil war. (If the Confederates had won, ultimately this would have led to a black run South and an all white North). The economics of slavery meant that the ratio of slaves to masters would have kept increasing until the slaves were numerous enough to overthrow the masters and the CSA would have become the second Haiti or Zimbabwe.

    You ain’t never gonna unscramble the American omelet so you had better think of a way we can all live together in our current scrambled state. This is not to say that we shouldn’t stop making the problem worse – the first rule of holes is to stop digging. But separatism is a dead end.

  123. @Jack D

    I.e. Not my Jews!

    Yes, the Ashkenazim. Eternal victims, pure as driven snow. Don’t forget–you suffered.

    I’ll just chip in that along with being the world’s greatest victims, your people are also the greatest proponets and propagandists of the world’s stupidest, most destructive ideas. Own it all.

    ~~

    “Victims”, “perps”, “privilege” — yawn.

    Seriously every single person on this planet is here, because they have ancestors who conquered, pushed (ethnically cleansed) people out of their lands, slaughtered their enemies, took their victims women as rapey booty (or if they didn’t, then much worse slaughtered women and children too–genocide), had slaves, beat slaves and “enjoyed” their slaves. Your ancestors weren’t out preaching Mahatama Gandhi non-violence bullshit … or they wouldn’t be your ancestors.

    We are the decendants of guys not shy about swinging the big battle axe or the little battle axe.

    Every single person on the planet is here because of murder, rape, conquest and genocide.

    The relevant question before us is how to organize to live civilized lives, without fighting and slaughtering each other all the time. And the answer is obvious and easy: in separate nations with well defined borders so different peoples can live according to their own customs, traditions, culture without continual conflict.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Moses
  124. istevefan says:
    @Jack D

    How is this supposed to work IRL? I understand that you can blackball Joos from your country club but how do you keep them out of the GOP?

    Since I am white trash, I don’t have a country club from which to blackball anyone. But I am weary of taking in leftists who were ejected by the enemy just because of the notion that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  125. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:

    look how (((they))) twist everything:

    “I was taken aback,” said Ms. Wruble in her first extensive interview about her experience organizing the Women’s March. “I thought, ‘Maybe there are things I don’t know about my own people.’”

    She said she went home that night and searched Google to read about the Jewish role in the slave trade. Up popped a review of “The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and the Jews,” a 1991 book by Mr. Farrakhan, which asserts that Jews were especially culpable. Henry Louis Gates Jr., a Harvard professor, has called the book the “bible of the new anti-Semitism.”

    Ms. Wruble said she did not dwell on the issue because she wanted to work together on the march, which was only two months away.

    becomes:

    Even though the march was a success, Ms. Wruble said that she felt angry and that the event’s official leaders were more focused on celebrity than building the movement. She also felt they were unwilling to confront their own bias against Jews. …

    later, the truth becomes offensive:

    “They were talking about, ‘You people this,’ and ‘You people that’ and the kicker was, ‘You people hold all the wealth.’ I was like, ‘Oh my God, they are talking about her being Jewish,’” said Ms. Harmon, whose account was first published by Tablet. “The greatest regret of my life was not standing up and saying ‘This is wrong.’”

  126. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Svigor

    By “popular meme” you mean “wouldn’t even chart in the top 1000.” Or even “so unpopular, anyone who brings it up no-one wants to talk to”.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @Svigor
  127. Fran800 says:
    @Svigor

    The slaving Ottomans and the Barbary pirates operating on the Mediterranean were capturing WHITE slaves, Italians, Greeks, Provencals. Few if any blacks got it as far as the Mediterranean. So the Italians were mainly protecting themselves (very sensible thing to do), not virtue signalling their beneficence toward blacks. The Ottomans enslaved everyone. They went after blacks through a more southern route across Africa — but they also raided places like Ukraine, southern Russia and Georgia, mainly taking beautiful white women for their Harems. Ever hear of the White Slave Trade? That’s what it was.

  128. @Jack D

    Steve has stated this many times – the only people owed any consideration are slavery descended blacks and American Indians – they are part of US. Speaking of which, who is this “you” Kemosabe?

  129. Tyrion 2 says:
    @AnotherDad

    I’m Sephardic. Jack D is right. His group of shetl dwelling yokels didn’t learn manners or the skills required to engage in international trade until round about when the other most backwards people of Europe did.

    Naturally, the Sephardic did alright in the slave trade as we did in all Mediterranean trade. Given that no one else could learn to read or count, this was a foregone conclusion.

    What next? You’ll lambast smart accomplished people for being disproportionately represented in the creation of military technologies? It isn’t like dimwits are going to be equally represented…

  130. @Jack D

    ” It wasn’t practical then and it sure ain’t practical now. ”

    Nothing is practical now, not even practice. That’s why all the fuss.

    Counterinsurgency

  131. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Edward

    Asians need to smarten up. Jews have them in their crosshair, just think Ivy League admission. They’re the biggest threat to the Jews, who love blacks and browns because they are no threat, easy to lead. Unfortunately for them it looks like even the blacks and browns are waking up thanks to Nation of Islam and Linda Sarsour.

  132. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Nobody ever said feminists were smart. Just look at those feministards in Sex and the City? They think “freedom” is to behave like men when it comes to sex, i.e. make things much easier for men.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  133. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    Jews are just the first to get picked off. Next to go will be the Muslims, who also participated in the slave trade, long before whites came along. After that will be the Latinos, they weren’t there from the start, weren’t enslaved like the blacks. Eventually the coalition of the fringes will just be fringes. Women are too catty to form any large scale coalition for long.

  134. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    Surprise!

    Diversity Divides.

    Who knew?

  135. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    This may explain why Emma Lazarus was a nut.

    LOL. This explains why every single Jew is at least partially insane. That’s why so many of them are psychiatrists and “mental health specialists”.

  136. inertial says:
    @istevefan

    Possibly, but the biggest players by far in that trade were Christian Genovese and later Venetians.

  137. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Stockman is supposedly sometimes a Jewish name but it seems unlikely that the father is Jewish.

    Considering who he married and the kids’ names, I’d say there’s a 99% chance this Stockman is a Chosenite.

  138. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Shoulda’ thought of that 300 years ago before you put these folks ancestors in chains and dragged them across the Atlantic.

    who put them in chains and sold them – was it their own black brothers?

    who dragged them across the Atlantic? a certain group of merchants?

  139. Paul says:
    @Jack D

    More than just sympathetic — also apt.

  140. Carol says:
    @Anthony Wayne

    There were some opportunists like Tea Party Express that tried to cash in. But it was easy to lose the thread on that movement.

    Meanwhile the guy who started it all still reports from the floor of the Chicago Exchange.

  141. @ringo

    …but, on the other hand, it’s okay for blacks…. in fact… we’re okay if the government subsidizes their abortions and promotes it in black-majority public schools. I wonder what the response would be from the Pro-Choice people.

  142. @Tyrion 2

    Naturally, the Sephardic did alright in the slave trade as we did in all Mediterranean trade. Given that no one else could learn to read or count, this was a foregone conclusion.

    Aisha, unlike her husband, could read. But she clearly couldn’t count, which is why she said she was deflowered at nine, rather than at puberty, when it would have made more sense.

    But then, maybe she was hitting the bee glue.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/1878174/eight-year-old-girl-enters-puberty-after-mum-feeds-her-oestrogen

  143. @Tyrion 2

    I’m Sephardic.

    Do you check off the “hispanic” box on official forms?

    I used to check it now and then on account of a presumed Sephardic great-grandmother but then 23AndMe told me there was no basis for that so I stopped. I’ll still have a beer or two on Cinco de Maio though.

    And I check the African-American box whenever I think it’ll serve the public interest. Like in National Park Service guest books. We’re all sorta African after all.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  144. @Anonym

    no wager necessary.

    (((Stockman))) is a Jew-nominative @ the 90% level.

  145. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I’m Sephardic.

    As was Edith Gormezano, better known as Eydie Gorme’. What a singer.

    Note that like the utterly shiksa Emmylou Harris, she has “BJ Back Jaw”, which is a great benefit for a singer.

  146. @Tyrion 2

    How about “enduring”?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  147. dfordoom says: • Website
    @moshe

    For me, this is a class issue rather than an ethnic one

    Of course it is. But right-wingers don’t like talking about class.

    The one privilege that is real is Class Privilege but the alt-righters, the mainstream conservatives and the modern so-called Left all pretend that it doesn’t exist.

    The Old Left believed that Class Privilege was real. And the Old Left was systematically undermined and finally destroyed. Isn’t that a weird coincidence?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  148. @Jack D

    The idea of a separate nation in Africa for repatriated slaves goes back to the late 18th century but no one was ever able to get a large # of blacks to get back on the boat going the other way. It wasn’t practical then and it sure ain’t practical now.

    Short of a majority or a war-winning minority being willing to commit literal Hutu-on-Tutsi style genocide, albeit with ranged weaponry, this isn’t happening anytime soon. I keep reading white separatist complaints about “neocons” destroying the Middle East. If you take their complaints at face value, they are rueing the “destruction” of non-whites that amounts to a few hundred thousand dead. Even if white separatists could win, could they really stomach being up to their necks in blood, via the deaths of tens of millions of non-whites they want to evict, who will resist this eviction attempt with armed force?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Samuel Skinner
  149. HA says:
    @Naimisha Forest

    “as for the bogus historical claim that Jews had some special role in the slave trade…

    You must mean the AFRICAN slave trade. It isn’t bogus at all to acknowledge that Jews had an indisputably outsized role, lasting more than a millennium, in the enslavement of Europeans.

    If anything, the ongoing controversy regarding claims by black activists that Jews were anywhere nearly as prominent in the African slave trade serves as a convenient diversion tactic from this well-documented earlier dominance.

  150. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jack D

    You ain’t never gonna unscramble the American omelet so you had better think of a way we can all live together in our current scrambled state.

    Agreed. Any attempt to unscramble that omelette would almost certainly lead to a bloodbath on an epic scale and at the end of the day you might well have a worse mess than the one you started with.

    The only way it could be done would be if you first installed a totalitarian government and it would have to be the kind of government that would make Stalinist Russia look like a Sunday School picnic. And even then it it might not work.

    The only other way would be to have a catastrophic war. The aftermath of war made the forced population transfers between Greeks and Turks in the early 20s possible and made the ethnic cleansing of Germans from eastern Europe possible in 1945. So if you engineer a war that kills a few tens of millions of people you might create favourable conditions.

    Ethnic cleansing has been done successfully in such circumstances but it’s not very pleasant.

    But you have to remember that alt-righters (and other associated political cults) live in a world of delusions. They will continue to believe that if they keep saying “You have to go back” then somehow it will happen. They’re oddly similar to sub-Saharan Africans in their belief in the magical power of incantations.

    • Replies: @Samuel Skinner
  151. dfordoom says: • Website
    @istevefan

    Since I am white trash, I don’t have a country club from which to blackball anyone. But I am weary of taking in leftists who were ejected by the enemy just because of the notion that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    You could keep refugee leftists out of the Republican Party by having a rule that if you want to join you must accept the core principles of the Republican Party. But since the Republican Party doesn’t have any principles that could be difficult in practice.

  152. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Johann Ricke

    Even if white separatists could win, could they really stomach being up to their necks in blood, via the deaths of tens of millions of non-whites they want to evict, who will resist this eviction attempt with armed force?

    You’re talking about people who think Pepe the Frog won the 2016 election for Trump. To these people the internet is reality. The actual real world does not exist.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @Svigor
  153. Tyrion 2 says:
    @International Jew

    I’ve resolved to tick whatever box corresponds to the last, most exotic meal I’ve eaten.

    Also, being from the UK, Hispanic is not much of thing. Spain is instead tbe Armada and continental tyranny. And I grew up thinking Mexico was populated by Spanish looking people in the same way America was populated by English looking people. I guess the latter has dated somewhat even in that relatively short time. Strange.

  154. Old Jew says:
    @Anonym

    This is our old friend: Tiny Duck

  155. Tyrion 2 says:
    @ben tillman

    Like “the end of the world is nigh” idiocy. Sure.

  156. @dfordoom

    You’re the one who seems to have difficulty grasping reality. That’s a ridiculous generalization that reflects a serious misunderstanding of what white separatists want.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  157. @moshe

    Do you mean Marky Mark Wahlberg? He’s not Jewish. “His mother, Alma Elaine (née Donnelly), was a bank clerk and a nurse’s aide, and his father, Donald Edmond Wahlberg, Sr., was a delivery driver.[2][3][4] His parents divorced in 1982, and afterward, he divided his time between them.[5] His father was of Swedish and Irish descent, and his mother is of Irish, English, and French-Canadian ancestry.” The Wahlberg name is Swedish.

  158. Paul says:
    @Jack D

    Forget your verbal gymnastics, and look up the word “indigenous” in the dictionary.

  159. Svigor says:
    @Tyrion 2

    No, I just meant popular meme. Memes are already pretty rarefied territory. I know lefties attempt memes too but they always suck.

    • Replies: @Lot
  160. Svigor says:
    @dfordoom

    Even if white separatists could win, could they really stomach being up to their necks in blood, via the deaths of tens of millions of non-whites they want to evict, who will resist this eviction attempt with armed force?

    This kind of overwrought romanticism of the courage and tenacity of non-whites is very Jewish. Delusional, but Jewish. Non-whites will fold like a cheap suit.

    Idiot Whites will prove the only real resistance.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  161. Anonymous[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    Even if white separatists were willing to take as their “homeland” only the more inhospitable landlocked states (the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming etc) they would still have to expel hundreds of thousands of “non-whites” to make it truly their own. Anything beyond that area and the number of undesirables pretty rapidly shoots up into the millions. And the demographics are just getting less favorable. White separatism is a fantasy for Walter Mitty types who’ve seen too many movies.

    • Replies: @Samuel Skinner
  162. Moses says:
    @Jack D

    Shoulda’ thought of that 300 years ago before you put these folks ancestors in chains and dragged them across the Atlantic.

    Lol it was YOU, Svigor, who time-traveled to finance the ships and import the Africans! I knew it!

    Kidding aside, I thought Jack D was an American? But he’s using “You” (not “We”) at another American like he’s addressing an outgroup?

    Weird. I can’t imagine why this is.

  163. Moses says:
    @AnotherDad

    Seriously every single person on this planet is here, because they have ancestors who conquered, pushed (ethnically cleansed) people out of their lands,

    Joshua’s ethnic cleansing of Canaan comes to mind. I think his orders were to slaughter every man, woman, child and beast.

    I mean, as long as we’re being thorough.

  164. @Jack D

    She either had an accident or someone bitch-slapped her with the back of his right hand. What’s with the monster-cheekbone, her right? Is that the true source of her privilege? Abused by the men of her own tribe?

  165. Ghrfbhg says:

    I could picture a South Park episode where jews end up being harshly oppressed by rabid anti-Semites at an intersectional protest for being insufficiently oppressed.

  166. @Michael Krauthammer

    The KKK was originally a southern group that was fine with Jews. The 2nd version was anti-semetic but primarily in the middle of the country. Since Jews mostly lived in New York it is questionable how much contact the two had.

  167. @Anonymous

    There were millions of Germans in Eastern Europe too. They moved to Germany.

  168. @dfordoom

    Any attempt to unscramble that omelette would almost certainly lead to a bloodbath on an epic scale and at the end of the day you might well have a worse mess than the one you started with.

    That describes much of human history. People are totally willing to bite that bullet if they have to.

    The only way it could be done would be if you first installed a totalitarian government and it would have to be the kind of government that would make Stalinist Russia look like a Sunday School picnic. And even then it it might not work.

    The British rounded up women and children, stuck them in camps and had them die off from disease. That was the Boer war when England was a democracy blessed with a free and independent press and civil liberties.

    Or to be blunt, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are like people declaring that a wall to keep out immigrants won’t work even though it works in multiple other countries today. The fact is repeating your nonsense until people start to think it is true no longer works.

    They will continue to believe that if they keep saying “You have to go back” then somehow it will happen.

    Yes folks, Operation Wetback never happened. How much more history do you have to erase and ignore in order to spew such bull?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  169. @Johann Ricke

    Even if white separatists could win, could they really stomach being up to their necks in blood, via the deaths of tens of millions of non-whites they want to evict, who will resist this eviction attempt with armed force?

    The answer is the same as every other time it has been asked in human history- yes. They are totally willing to accept killing all those people.

    As for resisting, the United States has nuclear weapons. Any resistance is going to escalate rapidly and get ugly and resolve just as fast. Ethnic conflicts are bloody and ethnic conflicts with atom bombs are total.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  170. @Jack D

    ” It’s possible that Jews were among the 1st to pioneer the sugar business ”

    WTF???

    Are you people seriously arguing about the involvement of Jews in the various slave plantations of the New World?

    They dominated it completely. You can read anyone you like on the topic, including philo-semite Werner Sombart. Jews locked down the various plantations in the New World first and foremost. The English, Dutch and other governments were giving them accolades for doing so, since the government of those countries was receiving royalties.

    Jews completely dominated trans-atlantic shipping as well, therefore the trans-atlantic slave trade. So far I’ve heard an awful lot of denial and obfuscation about the Jewish role in slavery, which is completely incongruous with their domination of international commerce.

    Put it this way: what moral basis would a Jewish merchant have for not partaking in slavery? Even in the USA, they were heavily involved in the slave trade. Ulysses Grant even had to call them out for running the economic blockade of the confederacy, and people like Benjamin Judah and David Yulee Levy were out stumping for slavery in speeches.

    The way Jewish support for slavery has vanished down the historical memory hole is astonishing. We are supposed to believe that German protestants, Russian orthodox Christians, Welsh coal miners and poor Irish labourers were responsible, while the rich Sephardic merchant families were nowhere to be found.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Corvinus
    , @Lot
  171. Jack D says:
    @jbwilson24

    The total Jewish population of the US at the time of the revolution was on the order of 1 or 2 thousand Jews out of 2.5 million people, so those Jews must have sure got around to completely dominate the slave trade. You mention Judah and Levy – these were 2 men out of how many millions of Confederates? Speak not of the mote in your neighbor’s eye but of the beam in your own.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    , @Lot
  172. @Jack D

    The central question is not whether Sephardic Jews dominated the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, but whether a working moral engine in America requires the imprimatur of self-proclaimed moral authorities who believe Jewishness establishes authority. The answer is no.

  173. Corvinus says:
    @Steve Sailer

    “‘Ethnic Jews were big in the early slave trade to Brazil and Surinam”

    What are your sources that you are using here?

  174. Corvinus says:
    @jbwilson24

    “Are you people seriously arguing about the involvement of Jews in the various slave plantations of the New World? They dominated it completely.”

    Do you look for Jews under your bed and in your closet?

    According to the research of Eli Faber from 1998, he posits that Jews did NOT play a leading role as the financial backers or transporters in the transatlantic or Caribbean slave trades. For starters, no ship fitted out for the slave trade that originated in Great Britain was under the direct or indirect control of a Jew. The data provided by the author demonstrates that Jews played little or no role in importing or selling slaves. If you could find research that contradicts his findings, I am all ears.

    For example, from 1709-1807, there are 934 recorded voyages in which Rhode Island merchants were responsible for procuring 106,000 slaves. Now, Jews arrived in Newport as early as 1658. On the eve of the Revolution, they were estimated to be around thirty families. According to historical records Faber used (e.g. naval office shipping lists, censuses, tax records) that identified merchants and planters as Jewish, there were 347 slave ships sent to Africa by Rhode Island slave traders from 1761-1774, with 21 being funded by Aaron Lopez, a Portuguese Jew. That means 326 voyages were underwritten by NON-JEWS. Of course, Jews played a role in the peddling of human flesh. The extent in this particular case is nominal compared to other ethnic groups.

  175. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Svigor

    This kind of overwrought romanticism of the courage and tenacity of non-whites is very Jewish. Delusional, but Jewish. Non-whites will fold like a cheap suit.

    Idiot Whites will prove the only real resistance.

    The problem you have is that the whites who will oppose you, the ones who will side with the non-whites if you ever tried ethnic cleansing, are the whites who control the government, the police, the military, the intelligence agencies, etc.

    And it’s not just a handful of elite whites, of 1 percenters, who will oppose you. You’ll be opposed by the majority of the white population. All those middle class whites who live in rich white neighbourhoods don’t give a damn about white nationalism. They’re doing fine and they don’t care about anyone else. Most white Christians will oppose you, because most white Christians are brain-dead liberals.

    White separatists seem to have a fantasy that a civil war would be the whites against the non-whites. In fact it would be a minority of whites against the majority of whites plus everybody else.

    White separatism is very much a minority ideology. A tiny minority with no chance of ever gaining power through the ballot box and no hsnce of getting power by any other means.

  176. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Samuel Skinner

    The British rounded up women and children, stuck them in camps and had them die off from disease. That was the Boer war when England was a democracy blessed with a free and independent press and civil liberties.

    The British in this case means the British government with the British Army to back them up.

    The white separatists who think they’re going to successfully carry out ethnic cleansing are a few thousand guys who get together on the internet to share their fantasies. They don’t control a government. They don’t have an army. They don’t control even a tiny sliver of the media.

    Governments can do things that a handful of individuals can’t do.

    If you want me to take white separatism seriously you’ll first have to explain to me how you intend to seize the government.

  177. @Buzz Mohawk

    Only a deplorable racist could imagine James Earl Jones (the voice of Darth Vader) sonorously intoning in some multicultural Star Wars remake, “These aren’t the groids we’re looking for.”

    [- a staggering 8 (maybe 9 if this one sails past Steve Sailer’s blockade – and no hard feelings if it doesn’t) results for that pun with Google – which are a supremacist menace unmatched except perhaps by Putin’s meddling – and Yes, you’re all going to Hell]

  178. @Lot

    Lot – Actually, you’re right. I should have said “per household,” not “per capita.” But all the figures are on that basis so the proportionate income and implied “privilege quotients” between groups are unaffected.
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/11/how-income-varies-among-u-s-religious-groups/

    The statistical data for Jewish income and wealth do seem to be oddly uncertain. For example, Wikipedia has an entry for List of Ethnic Groups in the United States by Household Income. Out of 103 ethnic subgroups listed only one supposedly lacks “reliable sources.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

  179. Lot says:
    @Jack D

    You are right on the numbers, but the bigger problem is the stupidity of assigning blame for events 160+ years ago.

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  180. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Samuel Skinner

    The United States was a Republic and is now an Empire, and empires always fall, nukes or no nukes. The Soviet Union imploded and no one got nuked.

    I believe the US is going to break up. While trying to kick over the old regime now would be utterly suicidal today for white (or any other kind of) nationalists, they could damn sure be fustest with the mostest at the right points and get a piece of the action for themselves when the boom comes down.

    At this point, as Tom Petty said, the waiting is the hardest part.

    I am very convinced that the bustup will be between 20 and 50 years from now. It will be triggered by a random event no one can predict but the groundwork is well along now.

    Who gets the nukes and as importantly, the infrastructure to arm and maintain them (they are very well designed so as to be more dangerous to the captors than the targets if captured, at least US ones now are) is going to be a big question.

    Former DoE and USAF/USN nuke personnel are well scattered and many know the basics of what to do and not do but ultimately you need the PAL codes or the nuke is just a source of plutonium core if you can get it out of the weapon.

    At any rate, any putative WN enclave needs access to the ocean, coastline that is defensible, clean fresh water, and a climate for some level of self sufficiency. It would help if it were still mostly white too, at least apart from big cities that could be “Mopped Up”.

    In my opinion Harold Covington had it somewhat well figured out and I recommend his Northwest Republic novels to all and sundry, particularly the first four (his last effort sort of jumped the shark IMO). It will not happen exactly as he described, but he was a hell of a student of revolution, having lived in Ireland during the Troubles and being a voracious reader of history. Brings up many important points. His knowledge of physics and firearms is not what ti could be and some of his characters are a little stiff, but overall he’s a better novelist than half the current bestseller authors out there. Covington died earlier this year: he was obese and in poor health.

  181. Lot says:
    @jbwilson24

    “Jews completely dominated trans-atlantic shipping as well, therefore the trans-atlantic slave trade. ”

    Not really. A high share of the Dutch slave and plantation trade was Sephardi. Considerably lower for the English and Portuguese. Very little of the French, New Englander, or Spanish.

  182. Lot says:
    @Svigor

    ” I know lefties attempt memes too but they always suck.”

    To you. Not to the public. The left dominates a large part of social media.

    There’s a subgenre of memes where the right has an advantage though.

  183. The total Jewish population of the US at the time of the revolution was on the order of 1 or 2 thousand Jews out of 2.5 million people, so those Jews must have sure got around to completely dominate the slave trade.

    That’s ridiculous. First, there is no contention that proto-USA Jews dominated the entire trans-Atkantic trade. They participated along with others elsewhere. Moreover, the whole slave trade could have been accomplished with 50-100 ships most of the time. How much capital does that require? And about 5 or 6 slaves arriving on our shores daily (2.000 per year)? We’re talking about five ships. You think that 2000 Jews could muster the capital for that? Of course.

  184. @Reg Cæsar

    Zip-a-Dee-D00-Dah vs. Yabba-Dabba-Doo?

    Also oddly familiar is the working class stiff (paid in proto-Rus rubles) and paleoconservative, Barney Wruble.

    Also see: Left Wing Teabaggers’ Tramp Stamp Act & Barney Franking Privilege
    Before Beckys there was “Mastodon Barbecue” Betty Rubble
    Flintstone Porn – Making the Rubble bounce as Barney gets his rocks off.
    Flinstone lyrics – “We’ll have a gay old time” – Now we mastodon our gay apparel
    Mining this one for all it isn’t worth – Backlash from placing Bouncing Bettys on Southern Border could cut Presidency off at the knees.
    Boris Badenov’s commie accomplicies – Natasha and Vanessa Red Grave Ruble
    .To some “Flintstone” might sound kinda’ “Jewish,” but it seems more likely that they were idolaters who attempted to serve both God and mammoth

  185. Marty T says:
    @istevefan

    Liberal Jewish women will not be joining the GOP. But I can see moderate or apolitical Jews voting GOP.

  186. @Lot

    Exactly. We are tired of the search for perfect historical victimhood. Neither me nor any of my ancestors owned any slaves nor were instrumental in maintaining “Jim Crow.” In the city I live in was one of the richest cities in the world in the year 1900. There were not a large number of blacks here until after WWI. Blacks have had preferential treatment in government contracting, educational scholarships and employment since at least 1975. That’s right, blacks have had preferential treatment in the area I live in my entire adult life in a city that was built before a large number of them were present. Due to political correctness, the no one is allowed to question why objective social standards must be tossed aside if people are to be considered equal. The double standards abound. Private employers cannot legally test the literacy or math capabilities of prospective employees while government institutions receiving government monies cannot rely on objective social standards because it does not affirm the morally correct interpretation of group rights. The judiciary has gone so far as to protect at will employees from discrimination. Apparently, blacks have the right to a job even if someone is not offering it.

  187. Marty T says:
    @Shawn Returns

    Also, with intermarriage many Jews are part gentile now anyway. They will probably just be identifying as white.

  188. For anyone denying “Jewish American Privilege” I would beg them to watch the Jewish produced, Jewish written and with a majority of Jewish actors/actresses The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel on Amazon Prime. I would specifically direct them to season 2, episodes 4, 5 and 6 that center around spending the summer in Jewish retreats in the Catskills. Then tell me there is no such thing as Jewish Privilege, and keep in mind this is set in 1959, not today.

    FYI – here I’am an apparent toad, posting on unz.com and on Steve Sailors blog that The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is actually a very good and funny show deserving of it’s Golden Globe awards.

  189. Anonymous[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Smooth-bore pistols were notoriously inaccurate.

  190. Anonymous[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Apparently the guy who came up with that series was gay, and the lead characters were just his gay friends doing the usual gay things but with genders reversed. It makes a lot more sense once you know this.

  191. Anonymous[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    Class recedes in importance in time of war. Or (what amounts to much the same thing) when large numbers of foreigners move into your country.

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