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It’s not just Classicists who are getting woke. From the Chronicle of Higher Education:

Medievalists, Recoiling From White Supremacy, Try to Diversify the Field

By J. Clara Chan JULY 16, 2017

… The criticisms of the conference’s diversity stems from problems in medieval studies for decades — that it is still too Eurocentric, male-dominated, and resistant to change. … “The worry I would have is that, is the field going to be forever linked to white supremacy?”

The alt-right’s “fantasy” of the medieval past couldn’t be further from the truth, says Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies. …

Medievalists from underrepresented groups say they see this as a watershed moment for them to speak up and change the status quo.

… Although conversations about increasing the diversity and inclusivity of scholarship are hardly unique to medieval studies, scholars in the field say that it has been slow to change, and that it still struggles to confront xenophobia, racism, sexism, and ableism within its scholarly community.

The medievalist Eileen A. Joy believes the problems stem from a combination of factors: The subject matter itself can be Eurocentric, the institutions that have served as the centers of medieval scholarship are places where avant-garde research is often not welcome, and some scholars may be attracted to medievalism because of its focus on whiteness and Christianity.

“The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says.

“It just takes a long time and a lot of emotional labor to push back against those tropes and those stereotypes,” says Lisa Fagin Davis, executive director of the Medieval Academy of America. “Sometimes, I think, for the people who are really engaged in that emotional labor, it really feels like you’re just howling into the wind, and then no one is listening.”

 
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  1. Critical theory is critically retarded.

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    • Replies: @Neoconned
    You know this is f***ing torture.

    This is like a clingy mother in law trying to keep her only child's childless hopeless marriage together in the sad hope for a grandchild only she wants.

    These people hate us or envy us, or both. I can't tell the difference.

    Can we at least start "wargaming" different break up scenarios?

    Either open military dictatorship is coming or this country will break apart like the Soviet Union did.

    The least painful option is a Soviet style break up of the country not a violent Yugoslav type dissolution.

    We can figure this out by say carving out a black state in the deep South, latino state in thr SW, etc

    Just cut the cord and move on. Enough of these pretzel games of political Twister to keep this sham of a country together.....
    , @Negrolphin Pool
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  2. ““The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says.”

    in other patriarchy news;

    Chechen top dog Kadyrov: “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/07/chechen-top-dog-kadyrov-we-dont-have-any-gays-if-there-are-any-take-them-to-canada

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    That Kadyrov comment is leaning on the fourth wall a bit as to its motivation (create a pretext for Chechens to claim Western asylum, as persecuted gays or, the better to be impossible-to-disprove, “bisexuals”).
    , @Anon
    “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    Homos are one people you can't exile or eradicate.

    If you get rid of all Armenians, they are no more.

    But if you get rid of all homos, new ones will be born... even in an arch-anti-homo family.

    Homo-ness is not an identity but a condition. It's like some kids are born deaf, blind, or with 6 fingers.
    , @David
    The body language that accompanies those comments by Kadyrov is pretty funny, page down to see video:

    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26705.5/3729915/
    , @Buffalo Joe
    newrouter, the article written by a woman mentions misogyny as it quotes three women academics.
  3. The appropriately named Ms. Fagin Davis:

    https://www.simmons.edu/Faculty/Lisa-Davis

    I’m surprised the name has survived a century and a-half post Dickens.

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    • Replies: @ANON
    Dickens Fagin character was Issac Solomon a well known gangster who organized burglaries and robberies and sold the proceeds, ran a gang of child pickpockets and robbers and was a well known pimp of child prostitutes.

    I suppose Chinese history, art and language are not Sino centric?
    , @bored identity
    “It just takes a long time and a lot of emotional labor to push back against those tropes and those stereotypes,” says Lisa Fagin.



    Will Eisner, the inventor of the graphic novel format, commited himself to a lot of emotional labor to push back against those tropes and those stereotypes :



    Transcript (Page 20.) :


    Unnamed British Gentile Lordship :

    "Unfortunately Mr. Solomon, I'm unable to repay your loan.
    My luck at the tables has been bad y'see !"

    Elezear Salomon, a very wealthy merchant :

    "Well, your lordship...ahh...
    There may be another way to meet the note that I might find acceptable.
    ...IF... for example I er could secure a seat on the city council for youth education...?"

    Unnamed British Gentile Lordship :

    "Well...now...ahem...yor religion may be a problem there mmmm But I believe I can exert some influence...
    Allright Sir...You'll have an appointment!
    Provided you ahh will advance me £ 1000 against my future needs at the tables!"

    Elezear Salomon, a very wealthy merchant :

    "Of course !"

    Young Moses Fagin:

    "Mr. Salomon that was er a bribery...Was it not?"

    Elezear Salomon, a very wealthy merchant :

    It was enterprise, Fagin... How else could a Jew get such an appointment eh? eh??


    (...)

    Young Moses Fagin:

    " Sigh ...So how can Jews overcome place?"


    Elezear Salomon, a very wealthy merchant :

    "Jews have enterprise, gentiles have birthright!"


    Full PDF of "Fagin The Jew" on archive.org :

    https://ia601201.us.archive.org/16/items/FaginTheJewAGraphicNovelByWillEisner/Fagin%20The%20Jew%20-%20A%20Graphic%20Novel%20by%20Will%20Eisner.pdf

     

    Bonus WTF Trivia Noticing, and bored identity is not making this up :

    Fagin The Jew; 10th Anniversary Dark Horse Comics Edition comes with an" introduction by Dickens scholar Jeet Heer!"
    , @Expletive Deleted
    I'd always assumed it was a variant of the (((Russian))) surname Feygin, e.g. Mark the lawyer who's currently in the news, or NY photographer Felix.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feigin
    There's an Irish name, O'Faodhagáin, that's transcribed that way sometimes, as well. Although decidedly less so since Chucky-boy stuck the boot in in his novel.
    http://www.clanfagan.com/fagan-information/the-fagan-name
    , @Brutusale
    Simmons College is a vagina-centric school hard by Fenway Park. If this twit was going to come from somewhere, Simmons would be at the top of the list.
  4. The subject matter itself can be Eurocentric… and some scholars may be attracted to medievalism because of its focus on whiteness and Christianity.

    Probably too many middle aged scholars. No sense of fun. Black Death studies.

    To get today’s kids interested in Mediaevalism, we need more of a punk vibe, with emphasis on video games with knights jousting, banqueting, shooting bows and arrows, and besieging castles with moats, and King Alfred bread flour, Robin In The Hood, Harry Potter, Norman the Conker, MacBeth, William Tell and his Lone Ranger overture, innit?

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  5. Medieval Studies got woke in 1991.

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    • Replies: @syonredux
    Yeesh. Even as a kid, that scene bugged the hell out of me. The telescope was invented in the early 17th century......
    , @Detective Club
    All up and down the eastern seaboard of the United States, an average Hillary voter can attend, during this summer season, one of the many "Renaissance Faires" and witness buxom & extremely dusky, Ethiopian "fair maidens," from some magical African kingdom, being courted by lusty but uncouth Whitey knights on Whitey horses?
    https://youtu.be/7LNS8qM4FUQ
    Didn't O'Bimbo say something pithy about how outrageous Whitey & The Crusades were, seven centuries ago? The very fact that Whitey once had the audacity to invade the neighborhood of pagan Saracen slavers and kidnappers of Europeans seemed to bother the US President & Our Messiah very much.
    https://youtu.be/OqbPMxvEGH0
    Oh, those bad, naughty Christian soldiers!(Wasn't there a pub in England that had to change its name because "The Saracen's Head" hurt the feelings of Syrian refugees?).
    https://youtu.be/7qOyT3ZkUxI
  6. Her verbiage sounds more Queer Studies or whatever than Medievalist.

    Anyhow, I have no problem with a course on cool or interesting things going on elsewhere in the world but don’t go perverting traditional Christocentric Eurocentric history with the wind stories of the Okkie Kookie people. Heck, don’t go perverting it with astrophysics.

    Do these people do anything OTHER than trying to steal other people’s shit? They already have their wing. Anyone interested can go to you.

    Stay out of the stuff of other people (pssst even if they ARE 20X smarter, 50X more interesting and a good deal more sane)

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    • Replies: @Michelle
    I don't think that they are trying to steal it. I think that they are trying to ruin it!
  7. Bet these phonys won’t complain about any focus on Islamic Medieval Spain . Or on any Jewish influence in the Middle Ages in general . It’s only Christians / Euro whites who can’t be proud of their own heritage . Ingrates Out Now and For Good .

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  8. @newrouter
    "“The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says."


    in other patriarchy news;

    Chechen top dog Kadyrov: “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/07/chechen-top-dog-kadyrov-we-dont-have-any-gays-if-there-are-any-take-them-to-canada

    That Kadyrov comment is leaning on the fourth wall a bit as to its motivation (create a pretext for Chechens to claim Western asylum, as persecuted gays or, the better to be impossible-to-disprove, “bisexuals”).

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  9. Those academic mirth makers. Who else could combine medieval studies and avant-garde research? Now entire oeuvres will be expunged due to disallowed themes. Such staple characters as the nain bossu or the lèpre will be consigned to history. No more hunchbacks, dwarves, lepers, Nôtre Dame or other symbols of oppression.

    The real target is not far behind: Tristan et Iseult, in its various forms written or sung, effrontery to the very idea of criticality. That pair represent anti-intersectionality. As the hysterical mob marches through history, it shouldn’t be long until the Bible is set to be emended.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "As the hysterical mob marches through history, it shouldn’t be long until the Bible is set to be emended."

    Yeah, like that never happened before.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    Never mind Tristan & Yseult; what they really want us all to do is accept Abelard & Héloïse as role-models.
    This is a zero-sum contest, no prisoners, as far as they're concerned.
  10. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    … Eurocentric…

    Forgive my naivete, but isn’t medievalism defined solely in terms of Europe’s history? Like, sure, the year 1066 existed everywhere, but I doubt it has the same import to, say, Javanese or Hopi history as it does to Anglo-Saxons.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Forgive my naivete, but isn’t medievalism defined solely in terms of Europe’s history?

    Right. It only makes sense within the context of European history, and not even all of Europe. For instance, there was no Middle Ages for Greek Byzantines since they didn't undergo Fall of Rome, Dark Ages, and then Middle Ages before Rise of Renaissance. Something akin to Fall of Rome happened to Constantinople much later with the Turkish invasion.

    Also, Renaissance only makes sense within European history, or more specifically Western European history. Southeastern Europe did not lose Classical Civilization which continued there. And Renaissance barely touched Russia.

    It's like what is particular to Japan isn't meaningless to China.
  11. @PiltdownMan
    Medieval Studies got woke in 1991.

    https://youtu.be/fZTgX4UrVdE

    Yeesh. Even as a kid, that scene bugged the hell out of me. The telescope was invented in the early 17th century……

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    ...by Dutchmen Hans Lippershey, Jacob Metius, or Zacharias Jansen, no less, those Eurocentric, white, Christian bastards!
    , @anonymous
    These ladies illustrate what the cultural historian Jacques Barzun would call being educated beyond one's means. Then again, as a Dead White European Male what would HE know!
    , @El Dato
    The new truethink is that everything that exists had already been invented by nonwhite noneuropeans at least a bit earlier.
  12. The alt-right’s “fantasy” of the medieval past couldn’t be further from the truth, says Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies. …

    From everything I’ve seen of the Alt-Right online (and that’s a lot) they’re almost entirely uninterested in the Middle Ages. Apart from a few idiotic Crusader memes, everything of that happened between the pre-Christian era and the publication of Nietzsche’s first book is kind of blurry for them. They’re into pagans and then the neo-pagans and pretty much nothing in between; which is, of course, the space Medieval Studies inhabits.

    As for the arguments made in the article you posted above, I’m just left more certain that we never should have tried to share our things with these people. We never should have tried to share our stories, our institutions, our countries with people who can only resent us and try to destroy what we entrust them with. It’s not funny anymore.

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    • Replies: @fnn

    The alt-right’s “fantasy” of the medieval past couldn’t be further from the truth, says Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies. …

    From everything I’ve seen of the Alt-Right online (and that’s a lot) they’re almost entirely uninterested in the Middle Ages. Apart from a few idiotic Crusader memes, everything of that happened between the pre-Christian era and the publication of Nietzsche’s first book is kind of blurry for them.
     
    Women are always making things up to fit their prejudices.

    Oddly enough, one of physicist-neo-nazi William Pierce's favorite books was Lawrence Brown's The Might of the West, which deals extensively with the Middle Ages, especially Medieval science. Brown followed Spengler in viewing Western Civilization as something new and distinct, emerging about 1000 A.D.
    , @CK
    Could someone point me to a well written alt-right fantasy novel set in the medieval era?
    I suspect that ms. Akbari is using "alt-right" as an all purpose prog pejorative, about as meaningful as "racist".
    , @guest
    They may be thinking of neoreaction rather than the alt-right. If you use "alt-right" to mean anything outside the mainstream right and/or anyone on the right who believes race exists and that there is no Original Sin of Whiteness, I guess they're one and the same. But the way those groups are usually defined, they are distinct with some overlap.

    That being said, most neoreactionaries, even, aren't particularly interested in Medieval history. If they prefer divine right kingship to popular sovereignty, they don't go into detail about the manorial system, or whatever. They're content mostly to criticize what happened since the Renaissance and Enlightenment.

    , @Old Palo Altan
    "These people"? The people quoted by Steve are all women. Do you refer to that?

    Whether you do or not I find that I do, and increasingly.

    Their purely emotional approach to absolutely everything precludes them from playing a useful role in anything other than ... what is that refrain I hear?:

    Kinder, Küche, Kirche.

    And only going to church, certainly not saying anything once within one. Prayers excepted of course.

  13. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Chinese history is way too Sinocentric.

    And why is there no discussion of Nigerian contribution to Medieval Jews?

    Funny how these globalists bitch about how the Alt Right is politicizing the Middle Ages, but they are the ones who are trying to ideologize everything.

    Alt Right is reacting to the globalist war on whites.

    It’s not just blacks claiming Egypt as ‘black’.

    It’s the world claiming all of white history as ‘world’, ‘diverse’, and ‘global’.

    But then, ironically, whites may be to blame by teaching Western Civilization as World History.

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  14. Alt-right online forums have co-opted themes from the Middle Ages and created memes that feature a battle cry from the Crusades, “Deus vult,” or “God wills it,” to advocate for violence against nonwhite people. A man charged with killing two men in Portland, Ore., in May posted on his Facebook page “Hail Vinland!!! Hail Victory!!!,” referring to the 11th-century Norse colonization of North America.

    “It should be a really, really important time for the field to reflect on why are these things going on and what can we do to combat that,” says Dorothy Kim, an assistant professor of English at Vassar. “The worry I would have is that, is the field going to be forever linked to white supremacy?”

    What I’m saying here is that the field is toxic to POC. Whiteness has to be kept to acceptable levels….like, say, in the NBA…

    But for the most part, scholars who don’t fit the mold of the stereotypical medievalist — “a cis, heterosexual white guy in tweed, possibly with a little gray hair, maybe with a beard,” Ms. Kim says — face obstacles to changing the field from within.

    I’m not saying that we need a purge…..But, if we have to have one, I’ve got some ideas as to which kinds of people should be “eliminated”….

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "But for the most part, scholars who don’t fit the mold of the stereotypical medievalist — “a cis, heterosexual white guy in tweed, possibly with a little gray hair, maybe with a beard,” Ms. Kim says — face obstacles to changing the field from within."

    You mean, this guy:

    http://estaticos04.elmundo.es/.../01/07/1231328949_0.jpg
  15. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @newrouter
    "“The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says."


    in other patriarchy news;

    Chechen top dog Kadyrov: “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/07/chechen-top-dog-kadyrov-we-dont-have-any-gays-if-there-are-any-take-them-to-canada

    “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    Homos are one people you can’t exile or eradicate.

    If you get rid of all Armenians, they are no more.

    But if you get rid of all homos, new ones will be born… even in an arch-anti-homo family.

    Homo-ness is not an identity but a condition. It’s like some kids are born deaf, blind, or with 6 fingers.

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people" and even smaller minds discuss people buggering each other.

    One of the most acute symptoms of our degenerated West is our collective fascination with homosexuality and the rest of the ever-shifting LBGTQQ++ spectrum. The Russians would be right to think we're collectively insane.

    , @anonymous

    It’s like some kids are born deaf, blind, or with 6 fingers.
     
    A birth defect?
    , @Pericles
    What about Bill di Blasio's wife then?
    , @Neoconned
    I often wonder if gays will regret these "gay is genetic" studies that do seem to suggest a biological basis to sexual orientation.

    What if they find out what many have long suspected - that like what the psychiatrist community believed until the 70s....that its a genetic illness of the neurological & psychiatric systems of the body.....
    , @CCZ

    "Homo-ness is not an identity but a condition."
     
    Very possibly, not a "condition."

    Sexuality and Gender, Findings from the Biological, Psychological, and Social Sciences

    Lawrence S. Mayer, Paul R. McHugh

    Some key findings:

    The understanding of sexual orientation as an innate, biologically fixed property of human beings — the idea that people are “born that way” — is not supported by scientific evidence.

    While there is evidence that biological factors such as genes and hormones are associated with sexual behaviors and attractions, there are no compelling causal biological explanations for human sexual orientation. While minor differences in the brain structures and brain activity between homosexual and heterosexual individuals have been identified by researchers, such neurobiological findings do not demonstrate whether these differences are innate or are the result of environmental and psychological factors.

    Some of the most widely held views about sexual orientation, such as the “born that way” hypothesis, simply are not supported by science. The literature in this area does describe a small ensemble of biological differences between non-heterosexuals and heterosexuals, but those biological differences are not sufficient to predict sexual orientation, the ultimate test of any scientific finding. The strongest statement that science offers to explain sexual orientation is that some biological factors appear, to an unknown extent, to predispose some individuals to a non-heterosexual orientation.

    Full study at:
    http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/number-50-fall-2016

     

  16. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @anon

    ... Eurocentric...
     
    Forgive my naivete, but isn't medievalism defined solely in terms of Europe's history? Like, sure, the year 1066 existed everywhere, but I doubt it has the same import to, say, Javanese or Hopi history as it does to Anglo-Saxons.

    Forgive my naivete, but isn’t medievalism defined solely in terms of Europe’s history?

    Right. It only makes sense within the context of European history, and not even all of Europe. For instance, there was no Middle Ages for Greek Byzantines since they didn’t undergo Fall of Rome, Dark Ages, and then Middle Ages before Rise of Renaissance. Something akin to Fall of Rome happened to Constantinople much later with the Turkish invasion.

    Also, Renaissance only makes sense within European history, or more specifically Western European history. Southeastern Europe did not lose Classical Civilization which continued there. And Renaissance barely touched Russia.

    It’s like what is particular to Japan isn’t meaningless to China.

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    • Replies: @unzerker

    For instance, there was no Middle Ages for Greek Byzantines since they didn’t undergo [..] Dark Ages,
     
    This is one of those myths that keeps coming back.
    Both the Byzantine world and the Muslim world suffered from collapse at least as severe as Western Europe. Entire cities were disbanded in the Byzantine and Muslim world, something which didn't happen in Western Europe.
    And they all climbed out of it around the same time, in the mid 10th century.
    , @Anon 2
    But Renaissance is basic to the history of Central
    Europe. For example, the first university in Poland
    was established in Cracow in 1364, only a few decades after
    Oxford and Cambridge. Copernicus studied there in the
    late 1400s. Similarly for Prague
  17. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory,

    Would that the rest of our civilization had been so resistant.

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  18. Is hijacking the study and preservation of European civilization from Europids a case of cultural appropriation? If it isn’t then I have no idea what is.

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  19. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Here come the dark ages again. A permanent one.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Declaring surrender in the face of a bunch of low test gammas, barren shrews, and their rapefugee pets.

    Yeah, its like the Visigoths sacking Rome all over again. Surely we will never recover from this.
  20. The worst mainstream geo-cultural studies I have experienced are Native American, followed by (just a guest professor in an art class) Islamic.

    Yes, my college had a diversity requirement. And no, I did not take African studies.

    Native American studies was mainly about berries and nuts and grudges. Islamic studies was about how they could have painted like Renaissance artists, only they did not want to. I am sure there are some respectable individuals in both, but they are not especially common.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    songbird, and Native Americans could have invented the cell phone but smoke signals were way cooler, and none of the view inhibiting cell towers.
    , @guest
    I took two "diversity" courses, as I recall. One was called Race in America, or something. Which started out refreshingly saying everyone has always been racist. Or everyone is possessed of an attitude of Us versus Them, as the class may have put it. Which I interpreted as meaning everybody's racist.

    However, soon we were informed that Whitey was the only group to come up with Scientific Racism, or pseudo-scientific racism to be more precise. You know, the thing that was once and forever blown up by Saint Boas. Plus, in the near past white people won against other peoples. And you can't really be racist of you aren't lording it over someone. (To be clear, Whitey has been declared de jure Illegitimate Overlord for all time. Even if white people fall from power never to recover, they will still be deemed to be in power.)

    For these reasons, it was okay to have a whole class on how wrong white people are to be racist, even though everyone is.

    The other was a giant auditorium class, where a lecturer does Power Point to like 150 adult-children three times a week, then a graduate student proctors tests on the textbook the lecturer never referenced. It was on Criminal Justice, and I wasn't sure why that counted towards "diversity," except that the "diverse" commit more crimes. There was a lot about racism, for instance an entire day on how the Chicago P.D. assassinated Black Panther Fred Hampton.

    Mostly, it was a hodge-podge of leftist law and orderism. They're all little J. Edgar Hoovers when it comes to their pet crimes, assuming cishet-het-males are the perpetrators. Like rape, child abuse, woman abuse, gay bashing, etc.

    Eventually, the lecturer digressed deep into Native American history, and as he described basket weaving I had an out-of-body experience. "Where am I? What am I doing with my life?"

  21. In short it was necessary to destroy [insert name of discipline] in order to save [insert name of discipline].

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    • Replies: @Alfa158
    Correct, the study of White European history is too focused on White European history.
  22. @Anon
    “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    Homos are one people you can't exile or eradicate.

    If you get rid of all Armenians, they are no more.

    But if you get rid of all homos, new ones will be born... even in an arch-anti-homo family.

    Homo-ness is not an identity but a condition. It's like some kids are born deaf, blind, or with 6 fingers.

    “Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people” and even smaller minds discuss people buggering each other.

    One of the most acute symptoms of our degenerated West is our collective fascination with homosexuality and the rest of the ever-shifting LBGTQQ++ spectrum. The Russians would be right to think we’re collectively insane.

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  23. “The alt-right’s ‘fantasy’ of the medieval past”:

    Oh, if that were someone else’s skull, ‘twould be a joy to my heart.

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  24. Have you guys heard of a blog called MedievalPOC? Look it up. This kind of thinking in academia is basically an attempt to exaggerate and glorify multiculturalism, using the past to justify the present.

    This is why academia has to be cleansed by the government every decade or so.

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  25. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Longtime reader of isteve here and this article really crystallizes the war like few other articles have done. It’s the mundane evil at work here. The vicious bullying by the Chans, Fagins, Akbaris etc.

    Whites (especially white men) cannot be allowed to retain ownership of ANYTHING. This is their Primary Directive.

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    • Replies: @Lurker

    Whites (especially white men) cannot be allowed to retain ownership of ANYTHING. This is their Primary Directive.
     
    And that includes Dr Who.

    https://twitter.com/DoctorWho_BBCA/status/886611172715241473
    , @Opinionator
    It's the mundane evil

    How is it mundane and evil?
  26. Reason 19,743 to defund universities. That result of medieval studies speaks directly to the stupidity of the academic world.

    To H3LL with them

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    • Replies: @Anon 2
    State universities (but not private so far) are
    slowly being defunded. We keep hearing about
    the hiring freeze and early retirements at the universities
    in Missouri but the phenomenon is not limited to Missouri.
    State universities are becoming more private than public -
    only 30-40% of their budget comes from the taxpayers.
    There simply won't be enough money to fund Women's Studies,
    Black Studies, etc
  27. @Moshe
    Her verbiage sounds more Queer Studies or whatever than Medievalist.

    Anyhow, I have no problem with a course on cool or interesting things going on elsewhere in the world but don't go perverting traditional Christocentric Eurocentric history with the wind stories of the Okkie Kookie people. Heck, don't go perverting it with astrophysics.

    Do these people do anything OTHER than trying to steal other people's shit? They already have their wing. Anyone interested can go to you.

    Stay out of the stuff of other people (pssst even if they ARE 20X smarter, 50X more interesting and a good deal more sane)

    I don’t think that they are trying to steal it. I think that they are trying to ruin it!

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  28. In other news now we have Doctor Hoo-ha instead of Doctor Who.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

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    • Replies: @Anonymous

    In other news now we have Doctor Hoo-ha instead of Doctor Who.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

     

    Were you trying for "Doctor Hoo-Hoo" there?
    , @anon
    Doctor Who is boldly blazing a trail right onto the bandwagon created by Ghostbusters, Star Wars, about a third of Marvel superheroes, etc.

    Of course, it makes a bit more sense this time since, as far as I can tell, around 100% of modern Doctor Who fandom (at least in the US) is female.

    Quite a shift from the days when it was 100% losers with nothing better to do on Saturday nights than stay at home and watch PBS.
  29. “Medievalists from underrepresented groups say they see this as a watershed moment for them to speak up and change the status quo.”

    So it is ok now for heterosexual white males to tell the communist deviants to “go to hell” ? Cultural appropriation?

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  30. @Cagey Beast
    The alt-right’s “fantasy” of the medieval past couldn’t be further from the truth, says Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies. …

    From everything I've seen of the Alt-Right online (and that's a lot) they're almost entirely uninterested in the Middle Ages. Apart from a few idiotic Crusader memes, everything of that happened between the pre-Christian era and the publication of Nietzsche's first book is kind of blurry for them. They're into pagans and then the neo-pagans and pretty much nothing in between; which is, of course, the space Medieval Studies inhabits.

    As for the arguments made in the article you posted above, I'm just left more certain that we never should have tried to share our things with these people. We never should have tried to share our stories, our institutions, our countries with people who can only resent us and try to destroy what we entrust them with. It's not funny anymore.

    The alt-right’s “fantasy” of the medieval past couldn’t be further from the truth, says Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies. …

    From everything I’ve seen of the Alt-Right online (and that’s a lot) they’re almost entirely uninterested in the Middle Ages. Apart from a few idiotic Crusader memes, everything of that happened between the pre-Christian era and the publication of Nietzsche’s first book is kind of blurry for them.

    Women are always making things up to fit their prejudices.

    Oddly enough, one of physicist-neo-nazi William Pierce’s favorite books was Lawrence Brown’s The Might of the West, which deals extensively with the Middle Ages, especially Medieval science. Brown followed Spengler in viewing Western Civilization as something new and distinct, emerging about 1000 A.D.

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  31. ANON says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Broski
    The appropriately named Ms. Fagin Davis:

    https://www.simmons.edu/Faculty/Lisa-Davis

    I'm surprised the name has survived a century and a-half post Dickens.

    Dickens Fagin character was Issac Solomon a well known gangster who organized burglaries and robberies and sold the proceeds, ran a gang of child pickpockets and robbers and was a well known pimp of child prostitutes.

    I suppose Chinese history, art and language are not Sino centric?

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  32. The next movie on King Arthur will likely have African and Pakistani knights sitting at the round table. Meanwhile, Zhang Yimou will be free to micro-aggress against round-eyed people by showing only Chinese flying warriors.

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  33. @Fidelios Automata
    Critical theory is critically retarded.

    You know this is f***ing torture.

    This is like a clingy mother in law trying to keep her only child’s childless hopeless marriage together in the sad hope for a grandchild only she wants.

    These people hate us or envy us, or both. I can’t tell the difference.

    Can we at least start “wargaming” different break up scenarios?

    Either open military dictatorship is coming or this country will break apart like the Soviet Union did.

    The least painful option is a Soviet style break up of the country not a violent Yugoslav type dissolution.

    We can figure this out by say carving out a black state in the deep South, latino state in thr SW, etc

    Just cut the cord and move on. Enough of these pretzel games of political Twister to keep this sham of a country together…..

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  34. Sometimes, I think, for the people who are really engaged in that emotional labor

    It’s a safe bet that that is the only sort of labor Ms. Fagin-Davis will ever experience.

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  35. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anon
    “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    Homos are one people you can't exile or eradicate.

    If you get rid of all Armenians, they are no more.

    But if you get rid of all homos, new ones will be born... even in an arch-anti-homo family.

    Homo-ness is not an identity but a condition. It's like some kids are born deaf, blind, or with 6 fingers.

    It’s like some kids are born deaf, blind, or with 6 fingers.

    A birth defect?

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  36. @Anon
    Here come the dark ages again. A permanent one.

    Declaring surrender in the face of a bunch of low test gammas, barren shrews, and their rapefugee pets.

    Yeah, its like the Visigoths sacking Rome all over again. Surely we will never recover from this.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Sacking of Rome is best thing that happened to Europe.

    Romans were corrupt globalists of the time. They were importing non-whites into Europe and doing what globalism is doing now. They were also decadent and degenerate.

    Greeks had Olympics. Romans has Gladiator sports. Romans vulgarized everything.

    A white barbarian sacking of current EU would do a lot of good.
  37. @Lurker
    In short it was necessary to destroy [insert name of discipline] in order to save [insert name of discipline].

    Correct, the study of White European history is too focused on White European history.

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  38. “By J. Clara Chan JULY 16, 2017″

    Any relation to Charlie?

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  39. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “…“Sometimes, I think, for the people who are really engaged in that emotional labor, it really feels like you’re just howling into the wind, and then no one is listening.”…”

    Another possibility is that, after a few seconds of listening, people realize you are a silly foolish bimbo.

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  40. Oh, ok I got it

    First they came for the high flow toilets…

    Then they came for the Drano (yeah its alkaline, but will be next after acid is banned in UK)

    Then they came for the Medievalists.

    This is getting ridiculous. Ok, I ask again, what next?

    Things aren’t looking too good for Renaissance Fairs and Irish music sessions.

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    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    We shall defend our cultural enclave, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight with broadswords, we shall fight with batarde swords, we shall fight with catapults and trebuchets, we shall fight with cudgels; we shall never go multi-culti.
  41. Has anyone heard if Fagin or anyone of their ilk have destroyed “politically incorrect” manuscripts?

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    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    Don't give them ideas. Those folks would put patriarchal and speciesist "Beowulf" down the memory hole.
  42. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “Why these professors are warning against promoting the work of straight, white men”,Kristine Phillips, July 16 2017, The Washington Post:

    “Academics and scholars must be mindful about using research done by only straight, white men… two scientists… argued that it oppresses diverse voices and bolsters the status of already privileged and established white male scholars.

    Geographers Carrie Mott and Daniel Cockayne argued in a recent paper… perpetuates what they call “white heteromasculinism,” …“system of oppression”… benefits only… “white, male, able-bodied, economically privileged, heterosexual, and cisgendered.”

    …a professor at Rutgers University in New Jersey… at the University of Waterloo in Ontario… researchers disproportionately cite the work of white men, thereby unfairly adding credence to the body of knowledge they offer while ignoring the voices of other groups, like women and black male academics…

    …“… to only cite established scholars, does a disservice not only to researchers and writers who are othered by white heteromasculinism…,”…

    …research done by white men are relied upon more heavily than those done by experts from other backgrounds…

    …Work done by women and other minorities have often been overlooked by their peers, hindering their professional advancement and depriving disciplines of diverse perspectives…

    …When citations are predominantly those of the work of white, straight males, “this means that the views and knowledge that are represented do not reflect the experience of people from other backgrounds,” … “When scholars continue to cite only white men on a given topic, they ignore the broader diversity of voices and researchers that are also doing important work on that topic.”…”

    I wonder how much of the 60s was caused by the stress of students unprepared to do well in mass university environments. (I saw a good bit of this.) So much easier to find something more important, a worthy calling. Utopia Now!

    I wonder if a lot of this current anti-cisgendered white male patriarchy running-dog rat-pig othered stuff is basically the same. No need to fail in the modern world once you’ve discovered that those old KKK ghouls are holding you down. You need to warn everyone!

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    • Replies: @black sea
    A couple of points about the Washington Post article. First, this quote:

    “Academics and scholars must be mindful about using research done by only straight, white men . . . ."
     
    How exactly are academics supposed to keep track of the racial and ethnic identities and sexual preferences or gender self-definitions of those whose work they cite? By looking at the author's name, you can generally tell whether the person is male or female, but beyond that, it's either a matter of knowing the individual personally, or conducting some sort of creepy research on them. I suppose that the preferred answer is that the non-white, non-cisgendered authors will make these facts known in their published work.

    Also:

    …research done by white men are relied upon more heavily than those done by experts from other backgrounds…

    …Work done by women and other minorities have often been overlooked by their peers,

     

    Here are two easily identified subject-verb agreement errors. When you can't keep track of whether the subjects of your sentences are singular or plural, in what way are you qualified to write for a living, much less lecture your readers on how to think and learn?

    Finally, can't Jeff Bezos cough up enough money for some decent copy editors, especially since the NY Times is laying them off at the moment?
  43. a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.

    Not “white supremacist” or “racist” but simply “white”. Yes, there should be no safe places to be white!!

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  44. @Anonymous
    Longtime reader of isteve here and this article really crystallizes the war like few other articles have done. It's the mundane evil at work here. The vicious bullying by the Chans, Fagins, Akbaris etc.

    Whites (especially white men) cannot be allowed to retain ownership of ANYTHING. This is their Primary Directive.

    Whites (especially white men) cannot be allowed to retain ownership of ANYTHING. This is their Primary Directive.

    And that includes Dr Who.

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    • Replies: @MJMD
    Meh. That example doesn't bother me. That a Time Lord can regenerate into a Time Lady has been canon since at least the '70s, and if you've suffered through any '80s "Who" you'll know that the show has hardly been politically neutral in the past: the writer's room at the Beeb has always been a left-liberal playpen. I'm frankly surprised (and gratified) that they went with an English lady!
    , @Father O'Hara
    Well I'm through with Dr. Who. Of course,I've never actually seen it...
    , @Almost Missouri
    My impression is that Dr. Who's core audience is anglophone teenage girls, for whom The Doctor is an idealized boyfriend figure: witty, personable, indefatigable but still somewhat mysterious. This is why the producers keep Dr. Who's sidekick as a nice but not too pretty young woman: she is the proxy for the core audience.

    Whether this weakly sublimated female adolescent yearning will survive transfer to a woman Doctor remains to be seen.

    Or will adolescent boys hearken to the call of an attractive but stern nanny figure? Well, maybe English public school boys...

    Prediction: ratings drop. After a decent interval, woman Doctor eased out for new upper-middle class teen idol. No public mention of actual reason for change.
  45. There’s nothing complicated about this. She’s bitching because she chose an inherently European subject matter. She belongs in world history if she wished to be “inclusive”.

    Medievel history is inherently European in the same way that the Tang Dynasty is part of Chinese/East Asian history. Both would brind in Islam here and there as the Islamic civilization was at their borders and a significant challenge, but neither would discuss the history of the pre-Columbian Americas or most of Africa. They had little contact with the latter, and the former they didn’t even know existed.

    Is there anyone in academia with the guts to point out the obvious reason for the geographical limitations here?

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    There’s nothing complicated about this. She’s bitching because she chose an inherently European subject matter.
     
    What if they go into these subjects with the intent of bitching about it?

    Look at the glut of critical theorists in some areas. While it's increasingly difficult in these critical-theorist safe spaces to always be more radical than thou, such an emotional labor of love cannot be compared to the dangerous work of these medievalists woking up the sleeping bears of their discipline.

    So much sexism and racism and xenophobia is left rotting in these fields because nitpickers can't make it past the ramparts of tweedy old white men. To the pioneers go the academic spoils.

  46. Im more concerened about the lack of representation of Europeans in Spring and Autumn history books.

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  47. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jack Hanson
    Declaring surrender in the face of a bunch of low test gammas, barren shrews, and their rapefugee pets.

    Yeah, its like the Visigoths sacking Rome all over again. Surely we will never recover from this.

    Sacking of Rome is best thing that happened to Europe.

    Romans were corrupt globalists of the time. They were importing non-whites into Europe and doing what globalism is doing now. They were also decadent and degenerate.

    Greeks had Olympics. Romans has Gladiator sports. Romans vulgarized everything.

    A white barbarian sacking of current EU would do a lot of good.

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    • Replies: @snorlax

    Romans were corrupt globalists of the time. They were importing non-whites into Europe and doing what globalism is doing now.
     
    No they weren't; North Africa and the Middle East (above the Arabian Peninsula) were white prior to the 7th-century Arab conquest. Didn't you see Steve's recent post about DNA tests on mummies revealing they were more closely related to modern-day Europeans than to modern-day Egyptians?
    , @Jack Hanson
    You're not only missing the point but you're engaging in historical revisionism.

    "We wuz Caesars n sheet."

  48. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Trans Doctor
    In other news now we have Doctor Hoo-ha instead of Doctor Who.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

    In other news now we have Doctor Hoo-ha instead of Doctor Who.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

    Were you trying for “Doctor Hoo-Hoo” there?

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  49. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The names listed in this article belong in the song from the Mikado.

    I’ve got a little list… I’ve got a little list…

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  50. @Anonymous
    Longtime reader of isteve here and this article really crystallizes the war like few other articles have done. It's the mundane evil at work here. The vicious bullying by the Chans, Fagins, Akbaris etc.

    Whites (especially white men) cannot be allowed to retain ownership of ANYTHING. This is their Primary Directive.

    It’s the mundane evil

    How is it mundane and evil?

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  51. “The worry I would have is that, is the field going to be forever linked to white supremacy?”

    Who knew?

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  52. “The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says.

    This is really a remarkable quote when you stop to think about it. It’s not just the common, factually tenuous, but at least hypothetically understandable, charge that stale pale white males are disadvantaging minorities, and so we need some equality increasing measure to rectify things. It’s an open admission that the very idea of anyone, anywhere feeling comfortable as a proud European Christian is what WOKE scholars should be fighting against.

    Obviously, in a rational world, taxpayer money would be subsidizing academics who value and preserve our heritage, not ones who devalue and destroy it.

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    Not all safe spaces are created equal.
    , @El Dato
    And the obvious response is to disband these research groups, send the deplorable people to extermination, I mean reeducation camps, and demand that the publishing journals retract any and all papers issued prior to the book burning. Which is today.

    Nazis looking out for "jewish science" comes to mind.

    As Hilbert said about the Göttinger Mathematics Department in response to a naziwoke functionary's question on whether it wasn't working better without the Jews: "Working better? It doesn't exist anymore."
    , @Melendwyr
    In a rational world, taxpayer money wouldn't be subsidizing ANY academics, regardless of their opinions or positions.
  53. @anonymous
    "Why these professors are warning against promoting the work of straight, white men",Kristine Phillips, July 16 2017, The Washington Post:


    "Academics and scholars must be mindful about using research done by only straight, white men... two scientists... argued that it oppresses diverse voices and bolsters the status of already privileged and established white male scholars.

    Geographers Carrie Mott and Daniel Cockayne argued in a recent paper... perpetuates what they call “white heteromasculinism,” ...“system of oppression”... benefits only... “white, male, able-bodied, economically privileged, heterosexual, and cisgendered.”...

    ...a professor at Rutgers University in New Jersey... at the University of Waterloo in Ontario... researchers disproportionately cite the work of white men, thereby unfairly adding credence to the body of knowledge they offer while ignoring the voices of other groups, like women and black male academics...

    ...“... to only cite established scholars, does a disservice not only to researchers and writers who are othered by white heteromasculinism…,"...

    ...research done by white men are relied upon more heavily than those done by experts from other backgrounds...

    ...Work done by women and other minorities have often been overlooked by their peers, hindering their professional advancement and depriving disciplines of diverse perspectives...

    ...When citations are predominantly those of the work of white, straight males, “this means that the views and knowledge that are represented do not reflect the experience of people from other backgrounds,” ... “When scholars continue to cite only white men on a given topic, they ignore the broader diversity of voices and researchers that are also doing important work on that topic.”..."

     

    I wonder how much of the 60s was caused by the stress of students unprepared to do well in mass university environments. (I saw a good bit of this.) So much easier to find something more important, a worthy calling. Utopia Now!

    I wonder if a lot of this current anti-cisgendered white male patriarchy running-dog rat-pig othered stuff is basically the same. No need to fail in the modern world once you've discovered that those old KKK ghouls are holding you down. You need to warn everyone!

    A couple of points about the Washington Post article. First, this quote:

    “Academics and scholars must be mindful about using research done by only straight, white men . . . .”

    How exactly are academics supposed to keep track of the racial and ethnic identities and sexual preferences or gender self-definitions of those whose work they cite? By looking at the author’s name, you can generally tell whether the person is male or female, but beyond that, it’s either a matter of knowing the individual personally, or conducting some sort of creepy research on them. I suppose that the preferred answer is that the non-white, non-cisgendered authors will make these facts known in their published work.

    Also:

    …research done by white men are relied upon more heavily than those done by experts from other backgrounds…

    …Work done by women and other minorities have often been overlooked by their peers,

    Here are two easily identified subject-verb agreement errors. When you can’t keep track of whether the subjects of your sentences are singular or plural, in what way are you qualified to write for a living, much less lecture your readers on how to think and learn?

    Finally, can’t Jeff Bezos cough up enough money for some decent copy editors, especially since the NY Times is laying them off at the moment?

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I can't believe no one has deduced the obvious, but we need a new system of citation that encodes an author's intersectionality score. (Umm... Ron.... as I'm typing in the comment box, your website is marking "intersectionality" as a misspelled word. WT serious F!!!!!!)
    , @Autochthon
    There is an invidious attack on blind review for papers which is embedded in this witch's (terribly written) harangue. She would have all the editors and referees for scholarly publications and conferences know each author's colour, age, sex, and preferences about whom he doinks before deciding upon the merits of a submission.
    , @Discard
    WRT subject-verb agreement, the problem is Ms Chan's cultural background. Friends of mine who teach Chinese kids tell me they have a real hard time with this. My guess is that her editors are afraid to correct her, for fear of being racist.
    , @Saint Louis
    Also the subject-verb disagreement in the very first quoted sentence:

    "… The criticisms of the conference’s diversity stems from problems in medieval studies for decades"

    But rules of grammar are just an oppressive tool of the patriarchy, so whatevs.

  54. @Anon
    Sacking of Rome is best thing that happened to Europe.

    Romans were corrupt globalists of the time. They were importing non-whites into Europe and doing what globalism is doing now. They were also decadent and degenerate.

    Greeks had Olympics. Romans has Gladiator sports. Romans vulgarized everything.

    A white barbarian sacking of current EU would do a lot of good.

    Romans were corrupt globalists of the time. They were importing non-whites into Europe and doing what globalism is doing now.

    No they weren’t; North Africa and the Middle East (above the Arabian Peninsula) were white prior to the 7th-century Arab conquest. Didn’t you see Steve’s recent post about DNA tests on mummies revealing they were more closely related to modern-day Europeans than to modern-day Egyptians?

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Didn’t you see Steve’s recent post about DNA tests on mummies revealing they were more closely related to modern-day Europeans than to modern-day Egyptians?

    They were more caucasoid than current ones, but they still had considerable African mixture.
    If you look lots of Egyptian art from that period, there are noticeable African features.
    Also, those mummies were of elites. Egypt has lots of slaves from black south.

    If you do testing of DNA of US elites, it will be pretty white too.

    North Africans and Near Easterners were noticeably different from Europeans.

    And Rome also brought in blacks. It's like in Spartacus where Kirk Douglas nearly got stepped on like a bug by Strode.
  55. @the Supreme Gentleman

    “The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says.
     
    This is really a remarkable quote when you stop to think about it. It's not just the common, factually tenuous, but at least hypothetically understandable, charge that stale pale white males are disadvantaging minorities, and so we need some equality increasing measure to rectify things. It's an open admission that the very idea of anyone, anywhere feeling comfortable as a proud European Christian is what WOKE scholars should be fighting against.

    Obviously, in a rational world, taxpayer money would be subsidizing academics who value and preserve our heritage, not ones who devalue and destroy it.

    Not all safe spaces are created equal.

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  56. @Lurker

    Whites (especially white men) cannot be allowed to retain ownership of ANYTHING. This is their Primary Directive.
     
    And that includes Dr Who.

    https://twitter.com/DoctorWho_BBCA/status/886611172715241473

    Meh. That example doesn’t bother me. That a Time Lord can regenerate into a Time Lady has been canon since at least the ’70s, and if you’ve suffered through any ’80s “Who” you’ll know that the show has hardly been politically neutral in the past: the writer’s room at the Beeb has always been a left-liberal playpen. I’m frankly surprised (and gratified) that they went with an English lady!

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    • Replies: @bartok

    I’m frankly surprised (and gratified) that they went with an English lady!
     
    BBC didn't want a Top Gear-like ratings plunge. Disney is content with allowing Marvel comics to plunge into Latinx bisexual communist irrelevance, because Marvel comic books aren't remotely material to the bottom line.
    , @Rod1963
    They even broadcast it here in the U.S. and boy is it lefty in a in your face manner. I stopped watching after a dozen or so episodes. Some episodes were actually quite interesting, but on the whole - it rammed some ugly leftwing politics in your face.

    The Daleks though have to be the most stupid villains ever created. Dr. Who shows up in the middle of some Dalek tea party and instead of simply shooting him dead, they get all talkative with him.

    Now the Goonies and Benny Hill were top notch comedy. I loved them.
  57. So the enemy is resistant to theory. That’s his overarching sin in a host of thought atrocities. Theory is pure. There is no racist research, no scientific standards of the patriarchy. Insightful academicians – once known as postmodernists although that’s kinda unfashionable now – merely dream it up and – poof – the Fresh Canon. Let no man call it bullshit lest his name be Hate.

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  58. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @black sea
    A couple of points about the Washington Post article. First, this quote:

    “Academics and scholars must be mindful about using research done by only straight, white men . . . ."
     
    How exactly are academics supposed to keep track of the racial and ethnic identities and sexual preferences or gender self-definitions of those whose work they cite? By looking at the author's name, you can generally tell whether the person is male or female, but beyond that, it's either a matter of knowing the individual personally, or conducting some sort of creepy research on them. I suppose that the preferred answer is that the non-white, non-cisgendered authors will make these facts known in their published work.

    Also:

    …research done by white men are relied upon more heavily than those done by experts from other backgrounds…

    …Work done by women and other minorities have often been overlooked by their peers,

     

    Here are two easily identified subject-verb agreement errors. When you can't keep track of whether the subjects of your sentences are singular or plural, in what way are you qualified to write for a living, much less lecture your readers on how to think and learn?

    Finally, can't Jeff Bezos cough up enough money for some decent copy editors, especially since the NY Times is laying them off at the moment?

    I can’t believe no one has deduced the obvious, but we need a new system of citation that encodes an author’s intersectionality score. (Umm… Ron…. as I’m typing in the comment box, your website is marking “intersectionality” as a misspelled word. WT serious F!!!!!!)

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  59. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The article is filled with insight. For instance, Mr. van Gerven Oei was offended by “another old, white man” and as he recalls it: “I was thinking I could do two things: Either I can just get up and leave, and it will be very awkward, or I can tweet about this.”

    (Deceptive citation and cultural appropriation: do it right!)

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  60. @MJMD
    Meh. That example doesn't bother me. That a Time Lord can regenerate into a Time Lady has been canon since at least the '70s, and if you've suffered through any '80s "Who" you'll know that the show has hardly been politically neutral in the past: the writer's room at the Beeb has always been a left-liberal playpen. I'm frankly surprised (and gratified) that they went with an English lady!

    I’m frankly surprised (and gratified) that they went with an English lady!

    BBC didn’t want a Top Gear-like ratings plunge. Disney is content with allowing Marvel comics to plunge into Latinx bisexual communist irrelevance, because Marvel comic books aren’t remotely material to the bottom line.

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  61. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    If I had my time again, I would certainly would have chosen to become a ‘Medievalist’.
    Dream job.

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  62. Notice it’s a bunch of females pushing this crap. Same thing happened in the Protestant churches, colleges and in the military. The college educated women poisoned by Marxism and feminism insert themselves into these institutions and literally destroy them from the inside out.

    On a side note. It’s rather amusing that one of the worst thing a woman who wants a family can do, is attend college. It will destroy her chances of finding a mate and having children in a good percentage of the time. They come out of college, heads stuffed with feminism and unable to relate to men or even make themselves attractive to them.

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    On a side note. It’s rather amusing that one of the worst thing a woman who wants a family can do, is attend college. It will destroy her chances of finding a mate and having children in a good percentage of the time. They come out of college, heads stuffed with feminism and unable to relate to men or even make themselves attractive to them.

     
    nah, the best looking women generally want families and match up with a successful guy in college. The ones you descrube generally diidn't have much of a chance to begin with.
  63. @syonredux
    Yeesh. Even as a kid, that scene bugged the hell out of me. The telescope was invented in the early 17th century......

    …by Dutchmen Hans Lippershey, Jacob Metius, or Zacharias Jansen, no less, those Eurocentric, white, Christian bastards!

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  64. @MJMD
    Meh. That example doesn't bother me. That a Time Lord can regenerate into a Time Lady has been canon since at least the '70s, and if you've suffered through any '80s "Who" you'll know that the show has hardly been politically neutral in the past: the writer's room at the Beeb has always been a left-liberal playpen. I'm frankly surprised (and gratified) that they went with an English lady!

    They even broadcast it here in the U.S. and boy is it lefty in a in your face manner. I stopped watching after a dozen or so episodes. Some episodes were actually quite interesting, but on the whole – it rammed some ugly leftwing politics in your face.

    The Daleks though have to be the most stupid villains ever created. Dr. Who shows up in the middle of some Dalek tea party and instead of simply shooting him dead, they get all talkative with him.

    Now the Goonies and Benny Hill were top notch comedy. I loved them.

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  65. @Anonymous

    In other news now we have Doctor Hoo-ha instead of Doctor Who.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

     

    Were you trying for "Doctor Hoo-Hoo" there?
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  66. @black sea
    A couple of points about the Washington Post article. First, this quote:

    “Academics and scholars must be mindful about using research done by only straight, white men . . . ."
     
    How exactly are academics supposed to keep track of the racial and ethnic identities and sexual preferences or gender self-definitions of those whose work they cite? By looking at the author's name, you can generally tell whether the person is male or female, but beyond that, it's either a matter of knowing the individual personally, or conducting some sort of creepy research on them. I suppose that the preferred answer is that the non-white, non-cisgendered authors will make these facts known in their published work.

    Also:

    …research done by white men are relied upon more heavily than those done by experts from other backgrounds…

    …Work done by women and other minorities have often been overlooked by their peers,

     

    Here are two easily identified subject-verb agreement errors. When you can't keep track of whether the subjects of your sentences are singular or plural, in what way are you qualified to write for a living, much less lecture your readers on how to think and learn?

    Finally, can't Jeff Bezos cough up enough money for some decent copy editors, especially since the NY Times is laying them off at the moment?

    There is an invidious attack on blind review for papers which is embedded in this witch’s (terribly written) harangue. She would have all the editors and referees for scholarly publications and conferences know each author’s colour, age, sex, and preferences about whom he doinks before deciding upon the merits of a submission.

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    She would have all the editors and referees for scholarly publications and conferences know each author’s colour, age, sex, and preferences about whom he doinks before deciding upon the merits of a submission.
     
    Well what the hell else would you have them use to decide the merits of a submission? The content? And if the doinker is a "he" do we even want him submitting papers?
  67. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @snorlax

    Romans were corrupt globalists of the time. They were importing non-whites into Europe and doing what globalism is doing now.
     
    No they weren't; North Africa and the Middle East (above the Arabian Peninsula) were white prior to the 7th-century Arab conquest. Didn't you see Steve's recent post about DNA tests on mummies revealing they were more closely related to modern-day Europeans than to modern-day Egyptians?

    Didn’t you see Steve’s recent post about DNA tests on mummies revealing they were more closely related to modern-day Europeans than to modern-day Egyptians?

    They were more caucasoid than current ones, but they still had considerable African mixture.
    If you look lots of Egyptian art from that period, there are noticeable African features.
    Also, those mummies were of elites. Egypt has lots of slaves from black south.

    If you do testing of DNA of US elites, it will be pretty white too.

    North Africans and Near Easterners were noticeably different from Europeans.

    And Rome also brought in blacks. It’s like in Spartacus where Kirk Douglas nearly got stepped on like a bug by Strode.

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    Egypt didn't intermix with their slaves from Nubia. North Africans and Near Easterners were (and still pretty much are) caucasian.

    Funny how everyone today claims that, and yet, no DNA of modern Italy shows up as containing a significant sub-Saharan black admixture. Romans were pretty much white, even 2,000yrs ago.

    Must be racism, it just MUST be.

    Is this what they're teaching in school nowadays, that the Romans were black? Or that their slaves were black? Guess it makes sense to some, say the world "slaves" and everyone automatically assumes sub-Saharan Africans.

    "What color is the sky in your world?"--Cheers
    , @Tex

    And Rome also brought in blacks. It’s like in Spartacus where Kirk Douglas nearly got stepped on like a bug by Strode.
     
    I'm not quite sure Spartacus was actually a documentary.

    Much as I enjoyed the movie, I found the book awful. It was written by Howard Fast in his late-stage commie era. Publishers gave it a pass, so he self-published. The implication was that Spartacus was too proudly marxist. I think the real problem was that is was stupefyingly dull.
  68. @Anon
    Sacking of Rome is best thing that happened to Europe.

    Romans were corrupt globalists of the time. They were importing non-whites into Europe and doing what globalism is doing now. They were also decadent and degenerate.

    Greeks had Olympics. Romans has Gladiator sports. Romans vulgarized everything.

    A white barbarian sacking of current EU would do a lot of good.

    You’re not only missing the point but you’re engaging in historical revisionism.

    “We wuz Caesars n sheet.”

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    Sometimes it has be lost to be found again.

    Why did West rise but Byzantine fall? Byzantine kept the culture, and people grew bored and apathetic. But the West lost it and there was excitement in its rediscovery and rebirth.

    Why is Europe falling now? People are bored.

    It's like China. The Old System had to fall for the new one to rise stronger.

    The old trees must be destroyed by fire to make room for new shoots.

    The really dire thing now is that the fall is being accompanied by invasion of foreigners.

    It's one thing for the system to fall but for the people remain the same(or be invaded by people of talent and similar genetics). It's quite another for the system to fall along with massive population replacement invasions by people of trouble.

    Germanics were barbarian but not without genetic means to build an even greater civilization.
    But the newcomers to EU seem like civilization-bunker-busters.

  69. Most of my relatives came from England. A few of us have had those DNA tests. With the Ancestry DNA tests you can see the “Ethnicity Estimates” of your relatives. Most of my relatives from England are 100% European or close to it. “Great Britain, Europe West, Ireland and Scandinavia” are the most common categories for their ethnicity. Occasionally there are traces of “European Jewish” but that’s about it. I’ve seen no African DNA traces in English relatives. Fits in with what one would expect from reading history or using lying eyes rather than what one sees in recent movies or hears from grandiose imposters.

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  70. Onomastic irony?:
    The director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies is Suzanne “Allahu” Akbari.

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  71. @Lurker

    Whites (especially white men) cannot be allowed to retain ownership of ANYTHING. This is their Primary Directive.
     
    And that includes Dr Who.

    https://twitter.com/DoctorWho_BBCA/status/886611172715241473

    Well I’m through with Dr. Who. Of course,I’ve never actually seen it…

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    I had barely seen it for ages. But ironically the last couple of episodes were really good, the pozz was dialed down to one, as opposed to the usual eleven. It proves they can actually do a good job when they are not beating us over the head with The Agenda™. I should have realised that was just softening us up for what was about to happen.
  72. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jack Hanson
    You're not only missing the point but you're engaging in historical revisionism.

    "We wuz Caesars n sheet."

    Sometimes it has be lost to be found again.

    Why did West rise but Byzantine fall? Byzantine kept the culture, and people grew bored and apathetic. But the West lost it and there was excitement in its rediscovery and rebirth.

    Why is Europe falling now? People are bored.

    It’s like China. The Old System had to fall for the new one to rise stronger.

    The old trees must be destroyed by fire to make room for new shoots.

    The really dire thing now is that the fall is being accompanied by invasion of foreigners.

    It’s one thing for the system to fall but for the people remain the same(or be invaded by people of talent and similar genetics). It’s quite another for the system to fall along with massive population replacement invasions by people of trouble.

    Germanics were barbarian but not without genetic means to build an even greater civilization.
    But the newcomers to EU seem like civilization-bunker-busters.

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    Germanics were barbarian but not without genetic means to build an even greater civilization.
    But the newcomers to EU seem like civilization-bunker-busters.
     
    Umm, hate to be Captain Obvious here, but didn't the Romans consider the Germanic barbarians to be civilization bunker busters?
    , @Anonym
    It’s one thing for the system to fall but for the people remain the same(or be invaded by people of talent and similar genetics). It’s quite another for the system to fall along with massive population replacement invasions by people of trouble.

    I am not sure the progenitors of PC knew what they were truly doing. A thousand Rotherhams and Colognes will not kill us but it will fan the fires of white ethnocentrism to a white hot intensity.

    A lot of things in life are kind of counterintuitive - the more you push, the less control you have. It's like with women - if you really want to have a woman never ever consider in a million years entertaining the idea of you as a suitor, show her how obsessed you are about her and that you will consider no other woman but her. Follow her home, be a stalker. (Instead is the realization that entice and withdraw is a high probability strategy but not foolproof - nothing is foolproof. The urge is to keep pushing though, and usually only through conquering that urge and being completely ok with the woman having some space and doing as she chooses will a man eventually have some of the success he craves after the woman realizes that "this is a man with options - a good catch".)

    So it was with the Frankfurt School. They wanted the Goyim to be nice, compliant slaves, disunited through miscegenation, unaware or ashamed of their history and culture. But what they had was not really so bad. Maybe I should cut them more slack, after all it seemed that Europeans were unstoppable in the 1920s, and even more so in the 1910s where the Frankfurt Schoolers had their formative years. It would have been difficult to imagine the dystopia of 2017 they were creating then, but here we are.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    Byzantium fell because it was attacked by Islam, and the successors of Rome, the only people who could have helped them, were disunited.
  73. @Anon
    Forgive my naivete, but isn’t medievalism defined solely in terms of Europe’s history?

    Right. It only makes sense within the context of European history, and not even all of Europe. For instance, there was no Middle Ages for Greek Byzantines since they didn't undergo Fall of Rome, Dark Ages, and then Middle Ages before Rise of Renaissance. Something akin to Fall of Rome happened to Constantinople much later with the Turkish invasion.

    Also, Renaissance only makes sense within European history, or more specifically Western European history. Southeastern Europe did not lose Classical Civilization which continued there. And Renaissance barely touched Russia.

    It's like what is particular to Japan isn't meaningless to China.

    For instance, there was no Middle Ages for Greek Byzantines since they didn’t undergo [..] Dark Ages,

    This is one of those myths that keeps coming back.
    Both the Byzantine world and the Muslim world suffered from collapse at least as severe as Western Europe. Entire cities were disbanded in the Byzantine and Muslim world, something which didn’t happen in Western Europe.
    And they all climbed out of it around the same time, in the mid 10th century.

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    You're both correct and incorrect. The Byzantine world did go through a dark ages, but it was brief. The Byzantine world had access to virtually all of the ancient Greek and Roman texts, and was able to recover much faster. It was the Byzantine world that maintained much of the knowledge of antiquity that go passed to Western Europe. Islam did very little in that regard.
    , @anonymous coward

    Both the Byzantine world and the Muslim world suffered from collapse at least as severe as Western Europe.
     
    Is this an elaborate troll? There was no 'Muslm world collapse' during the Dark Ages since the Muslims were the primary agents doing the collapsing.

    Entire cities were disbanded in the Byzantine and Muslim world, something which didn’t happen in Western Europe.
     
    Again, it was the Muslim barbarians who were doing the disbanding.
  74. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @yaqub the mad scientist
    There's nothing complicated about this. She's bitching because she chose an inherently European subject matter. She belongs in world history if she wished to be "inclusive".

    Medievel history is inherently European in the same way that the Tang Dynasty is part of Chinese/East Asian history. Both would brind in Islam here and there as the Islamic civilization was at their borders and a significant challenge, but neither would discuss the history of the pre-Columbian Americas or most of Africa. They had little contact with the latter, and the former they didn't even know existed.

    Is there anyone in academia with the guts to point out the obvious reason for the geographical limitations here?

    There’s nothing complicated about this. She’s bitching because she chose an inherently European subject matter.

    What if they go into these subjects with the intent of bitching about it?

    Look at the glut of critical theorists in some areas. While it’s increasingly difficult in these critical-theorist safe spaces to always be more radical than thou, such an emotional labor of love cannot be compared to the dangerous work of these medievalists woking up the sleeping bears of their discipline.

    So much sexism and racism and xenophobia is left rotting in these fields because nitpickers can’t make it past the ramparts of tweedy old white men. To the pioneers go the academic spoils.

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    That girl Shannon whatever who pushed her way into the Citadel did exactly this. She couldn't even hack it but now it's coed and thus lower status forever.
  75. @Broski
    The appropriately named Ms. Fagin Davis:

    https://www.simmons.edu/Faculty/Lisa-Davis

    I'm surprised the name has survived a century and a-half post Dickens.

    “It just takes a long time and a lot of emotional labor to push back against those tropes and those stereotypes,” says Lisa Fagin.

    Will Eisner, the inventor of the graphic novel format, commited himself to a lot of emotional labor to push back against those tropes and those stereotypes :

    Transcript (Page 20.) :

    Unnamed British Gentile Lordship :

    “Unfortunately Mr. Solomon, I’m unable to repay your loan.
    My luck at the tables has been bad y’see !”

    Elezear Salomon, a very wealthy merchant :

    “Well, your lordship…ahh…
    There may be another way to meet the note that I might find acceptable.
    IF… for example I er could secure a seat on the city council for youth education…?”

    Unnamed British Gentile Lordship :

    “Well…now…ahem…yor religion may be a problem there mmmm But I believe I can exert some influence…
    Allright Sir…You’ll have an appointment!
    Provided you ahh will advance me £ 1000 against my future needs at the tables!”

    Elezear Salomon, a very wealthy merchant :

    “Of course !”

    Young Moses Fagin:

    “Mr. Salomon that was er a bribery…Was it not?”

    Elezear Salomon, a very wealthy merchant :

    It was enterprise, Fagin… How else could a Jew get such an appointment eh? eh??

    (…)

    Young Moses Fagin:

    Sigh …So how can Jews overcome place?”

    Elezear Salomon, a very wealthy merchant :

    “Jews have enterprise, gentiles have birthright!”

    Full PDF of “Fagin The Jew” on archive.org :

    https://ia601201.us.archive.org/16/items/FaginTheJewAGraphicNovelByWillEisner/Fagin%20The%20Jew%20-%20A%20Graphic%20Novel%20by%20Will%20Eisner.pdf

    Bonus WTF Trivia Noticing, and bored identity is not making this up :

    Fagin The Jew; 10th Anniversary Dark Horse Comics Edition comes with an” introduction by Dickens scholar Jeet Heer!”

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  76. I’m a Ph.D. medievalist, so I can offer some perspective. Medievalists are overwhelming white (although there are quite a few Japanese medievalists, for some reason) because “people of color” mostly aren’t interested in studying the Middle Ages. The field for the most part is highly technical, demanding not only archival research but training in Latin (the language of the overwhelming majority of Western medieval documents) and other relatively obscure “old” languages, and paleography (how to read the manuscripts), which is no joke. Only if your specialty is medieval vernacular literature can you get away with “critical theory” as your main focus–which is why the field of medieval studies is so “resistant” to it.

    That said, medievalists, who like almost all other academics skew painfully liberal, fall all over themselves virtue-signaling about white privilege and their own white guilt. If you click onto the Chronicle article, the first thing you see is the photo of the oval white-as-a-sheet face of Vincent W.J. van Gerven (what name could be more “white” than that?), the scholar who complained that all the academics on the panel about “otherness” at the Leeds medieval conference were white–as white as van Gerven himself! Van Gerven is a specialist in Old Nubian manuscripts, about as technical a field as you can get. Lisa Fagin Davis is a manuscript librarian at Yale. Medieval studies is a “safe space” for elitists, all right–elite white people wringing their hands over the fact that they are the nearly the only people who want to be medievalists.

    Finally, they won’t have to worry about “misogyny” for long–since medieval studies is now a majority-female field, at least among younger scholars. And being a believing Christian who goes to church regularly is actually an occupational hazard in the field.

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    The guy writing the article is not white. He's either asian or half asian.
  77. @Anonymous

    In other news now we have Doctor Hoo-ha instead of Doctor Who.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

     

    Were you trying for "Doctor Hoo-Hoo" there?
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  78. @Anon
    Didn’t you see Steve’s recent post about DNA tests on mummies revealing they were more closely related to modern-day Europeans than to modern-day Egyptians?

    They were more caucasoid than current ones, but they still had considerable African mixture.
    If you look lots of Egyptian art from that period, there are noticeable African features.
    Also, those mummies were of elites. Egypt has lots of slaves from black south.

    If you do testing of DNA of US elites, it will be pretty white too.

    North Africans and Near Easterners were noticeably different from Europeans.

    And Rome also brought in blacks. It's like in Spartacus where Kirk Douglas nearly got stepped on like a bug by Strode.

    Egypt didn’t intermix with their slaves from Nubia. North Africans and Near Easterners were (and still pretty much are) caucasian.

    Funny how everyone today claims that, and yet, no DNA of modern Italy shows up as containing a significant sub-Saharan black admixture. Romans were pretty much white, even 2,000yrs ago.

    Must be racism, it just MUST be.

    Is this what they’re teaching in school nowadays, that the Romans were black? Or that their slaves were black? Guess it makes sense to some, say the world “slaves” and everyone automatically assumes sub-Saharan Africans.

    “What color is the sky in your world?”–Cheers

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    Coptic Christians have about 10% East African admixture while being endogamous.
  79. @newrouter
    "“The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says."


    in other patriarchy news;

    Chechen top dog Kadyrov: “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/07/chechen-top-dog-kadyrov-we-dont-have-any-gays-if-there-are-any-take-them-to-canada

    The body language that accompanies those comments by Kadyrov is pretty funny, page down to see video:

    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26705.5/3729915/

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  80. @PiltdownMan
    Medieval Studies got woke in 1991.

    https://youtu.be/fZTgX4UrVdE

    All up and down the eastern seaboard of the United States, an average Hillary voter can attend, during this summer season, one of the many “Renaissance Faires” and witness buxom & extremely dusky, Ethiopian “fair maidens,” from some magical African kingdom, being courted by lusty but uncouth Whitey knights on Whitey horses?

    Didn’t O’Bimbo say something pithy about how outrageous Whitey & The Crusades were, seven centuries ago? The very fact that Whitey once had the audacity to invade the neighborhood of pagan Saracen slavers and kidnappers of Europeans seemed to bother the US President & Our Messiah very much.

    Oh, those bad, naughty Christian soldiers!(Wasn’t there a pub in England that had to change its name because “The Saracen’s Head” hurt the feelings of Syrian refugees?).

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  81. Medieval studies will become like classics. A dwindling niche dominated by an incestuous elite who are vaguely contemptuous of the subject matter.

    But in the population at large you will discover a vast and untapped reservoir of desire the era. They will start to use the internet to take matters in their own hands and bypass the academics.

    Read about the HEMA community sometime. Scholars and laymen learned obscure dialects to translate documents about medieval and Renaissance era martial arts. Now they are literally reconstructing those arts themselves.

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  82. Glossary
    ———-
    white supremacist = white trash
    eurocentrist = white trash
    xenophobe = white trash
    racist = white trash
    sexist = white trash
    ableist = white trash
    Christian = white trash
    misogynist = white trash

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  83. @Anon
    Sometimes it has be lost to be found again.

    Why did West rise but Byzantine fall? Byzantine kept the culture, and people grew bored and apathetic. But the West lost it and there was excitement in its rediscovery and rebirth.

    Why is Europe falling now? People are bored.

    It's like China. The Old System had to fall for the new one to rise stronger.

    The old trees must be destroyed by fire to make room for new shoots.

    The really dire thing now is that the fall is being accompanied by invasion of foreigners.

    It's one thing for the system to fall but for the people remain the same(or be invaded by people of talent and similar genetics). It's quite another for the system to fall along with massive population replacement invasions by people of trouble.

    Germanics were barbarian but not without genetic means to build an even greater civilization.
    But the newcomers to EU seem like civilization-bunker-busters.

    Germanics were barbarian but not without genetic means to build an even greater civilization.
    But the newcomers to EU seem like civilization-bunker-busters.

    Umm, hate to be Captain Obvious here, but didn’t the Romans consider the Germanic barbarians to be civilization bunker busters?

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  84. The Middle Ages were Turk-supremacist. Chritians and Christianity barely survived to make the glorious comeback we’re all so proud of.

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    The Moors were not Turks. They were Maghrebis.
  85. @Charlotte Allen
    I'm a Ph.D. medievalist, so I can offer some perspective. Medievalists are overwhelming white (although there are quite a few Japanese medievalists, for some reason) because "people of color" mostly aren't interested in studying the Middle Ages. The field for the most part is highly technical, demanding not only archival research but training in Latin (the language of the overwhelming majority of Western medieval documents) and other relatively obscure "old" languages, and paleography (how to read the manuscripts), which is no joke. Only if your specialty is medieval vernacular literature can you get away with "critical theory" as your main focus--which is why the field of medieval studies is so "resistant" to it.

    That said, medievalists, who like almost all other academics skew painfully liberal, fall all over themselves virtue-signaling about white privilege and their own white guilt. If you click onto the Chronicle article, the first thing you see is the photo of the oval white-as-a-sheet face of Vincent W.J. van Gerven (what name could be more "white" than that?), the scholar who complained that all the academics on the panel about "otherness" at the Leeds medieval conference were white--as white as van Gerven himself! Van Gerven is a specialist in Old Nubian manuscripts, about as technical a field as you can get. Lisa Fagin Davis is a manuscript librarian at Yale. Medieval studies is a "safe space" for elitists, all right--elite white people wringing their hands over the fact that they are the nearly the only people who want to be medievalists.

    Finally, they won't have to worry about "misogyny" for long--since medieval studies is now a majority-female field, at least among younger scholars. And being a believing Christian who goes to church regularly is actually an occupational hazard in the field.

    The guy writing the article is not white. He’s either asian or half asian.

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  86. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Trans Doctor
    In other news now we have Doctor Hoo-ha instead of Doctor Who.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

    Doctor Who is boldly blazing a trail right onto the bandwagon created by Ghostbusters, Star Wars, about a third of Marvel superheroes, etc.

    Of course, it makes a bit more sense this time since, as far as I can tell, around 100% of modern Doctor Who fandom (at least in the US) is female.

    Quite a shift from the days when it was 100% losers with nothing better to do on Saturday nights than stay at home and watch PBS.

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  87. @Cagey Beast
    The alt-right’s “fantasy” of the medieval past couldn’t be further from the truth, says Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies. …

    From everything I've seen of the Alt-Right online (and that's a lot) they're almost entirely uninterested in the Middle Ages. Apart from a few idiotic Crusader memes, everything of that happened between the pre-Christian era and the publication of Nietzsche's first book is kind of blurry for them. They're into pagans and then the neo-pagans and pretty much nothing in between; which is, of course, the space Medieval Studies inhabits.

    As for the arguments made in the article you posted above, I'm just left more certain that we never should have tried to share our things with these people. We never should have tried to share our stories, our institutions, our countries with people who can only resent us and try to destroy what we entrust them with. It's not funny anymore.

    Could someone point me to a well written alt-right fantasy novel set in the medieval era?
    I suspect that ms. Akbari is using “alt-right” as an all purpose prog pejorative, about as meaningful as “racist”.

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  88. @unzerker

    For instance, there was no Middle Ages for Greek Byzantines since they didn’t undergo [..] Dark Ages,
     
    This is one of those myths that keeps coming back.
    Both the Byzantine world and the Muslim world suffered from collapse at least as severe as Western Europe. Entire cities were disbanded in the Byzantine and Muslim world, something which didn't happen in Western Europe.
    And they all climbed out of it around the same time, in the mid 10th century.

    You’re both correct and incorrect. The Byzantine world did go through a dark ages, but it was brief. The Byzantine world had access to virtually all of the ancient Greek and Roman texts, and was able to recover much faster. It was the Byzantine world that maintained much of the knowledge of antiquity that go passed to Western Europe. Islam did very little in that regard.

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    @syonredux
    Yeesh. Even as a kid, that scene bugged the hell out of me. The telescope was invented in the early 17th century......

    These ladies illustrate what the cultural historian Jacques Barzun would call being educated beyond one’s means. Then again, as a Dead White European Male what would HE know!

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  90. Recommended reading: http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/

    This University of Chicago medievalist is delightfully resistant to “resistance”.

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  91. @anonguy
    Oh, ok I got it

    First they came for the high flow toilets...

    Then they came for the Drano (yeah its alkaline, but will be next after acid is banned in UK)

    Then they came for the Medievalists.

    This is getting ridiculous. Ok, I ask again, what next?

    Things aren't looking too good for Renaissance Fairs and Irish music sessions.

    We shall defend our cultural enclave, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight with broadswords, we shall fight with batarde swords, we shall fight with catapults and trebuchets, we shall fight with cudgels; we shall never go multi-culti.

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  92. @Anon
    Sometimes it has be lost to be found again.

    Why did West rise but Byzantine fall? Byzantine kept the culture, and people grew bored and apathetic. But the West lost it and there was excitement in its rediscovery and rebirth.

    Why is Europe falling now? People are bored.

    It's like China. The Old System had to fall for the new one to rise stronger.

    The old trees must be destroyed by fire to make room for new shoots.

    The really dire thing now is that the fall is being accompanied by invasion of foreigners.

    It's one thing for the system to fall but for the people remain the same(or be invaded by people of talent and similar genetics). It's quite another for the system to fall along with massive population replacement invasions by people of trouble.

    Germanics were barbarian but not without genetic means to build an even greater civilization.
    But the newcomers to EU seem like civilization-bunker-busters.

    It’s one thing for the system to fall but for the people remain the same(or be invaded by people of talent and similar genetics). It’s quite another for the system to fall along with massive population replacement invasions by people of trouble.

    I am not sure the progenitors of PC knew what they were truly doing. A thousand Rotherhams and Colognes will not kill us but it will fan the fires of white ethnocentrism to a white hot intensity.

    A lot of things in life are kind of counterintuitive – the more you push, the less control you have. It’s like with women – if you really want to have a woman never ever consider in a million years entertaining the idea of you as a suitor, show her how obsessed you are about her and that you will consider no other woman but her. Follow her home, be a stalker. (Instead is the realization that entice and withdraw is a high probability strategy but not foolproof – nothing is foolproof. The urge is to keep pushing though, and usually only through conquering that urge and being completely ok with the woman having some space and doing as she chooses will a man eventually have some of the success he craves after the woman realizes that “this is a man with options – a good catch”.)

    So it was with the Frankfurt School. They wanted the Goyim to be nice, compliant slaves, disunited through miscegenation, unaware or ashamed of their history and culture. But what they had was not really so bad. Maybe I should cut them more slack, after all it seemed that Europeans were unstoppable in the 1920s, and even more so in the 1910s where the Frankfurt Schoolers had their formative years. It would have been difficult to imagine the dystopia of 2017 they were creating then, but here we are.

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  93. This can be attributed to the near total feminisation of the academic worlds of the humanities, the more obscure the more feminised. We can argue if this is the result of simply different interests and I would say that the initial disparity was like that, but no guy, even a nice leftist one, enjoys being around angry bullies he implicitly knows hate him. The difference is one of them will talk about it and one won’t, but both of them see it, the aggression and angers radiates from them.

    Of course, it wasn’t ordinary women who were doing this, it was women who, for whatever reason, weren’t romantically very successful. Everytime I see a story involving somebody who is a medieval literature PhD that’s taken it all the way to become an academic it’s an overweight, tattooed, neon haired woman, everytime! Never a man.

    I always laugh at feminists complaining about the hostile environment for women created by a too high concentration of men, preferably the kind of men who are receptive to such critiques, (IE, exactly the ones such critiques are the most baseless against.) when they inevitably create environments that denigrates men in a casual fashion and which treat them as some occupying force which must be resisted.

    An example of this effect is the new Doctor Who. I didn’t know that the producer set out from the start to court a more female audience. It was subtle at first and then took a giant leap in recent years, (I haven’t even watched it in about 8 or 7 years, but just from osmosis I was aware of the new direction and pandering) likely as our medievalists became the most vocal and demanding segment of the audience. Look at the people who present the official BBC Doctor Who fan show. They’re not what people thought of as Doctor Who fans 10 years ago. Now a female Doctor cements the influence of this segment of the fanbase. Be interesting to see if it works or if it alienates young women who enjoyed a young male doctor (Apparently men tended to like Capaldi, young women did not!) along with male viewers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWLrgmOECbw

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    • Replies: @Malcer
    Do they really believe making The Doctor a girl is going to make it more appealing to women?

    Women who watch Doctor Who do it for the hot men who they pretend they're dating, be it through fanfiction or living vicariously through the Doctor's Assistants.
  94. @Not Raul
    Has anyone heard if Fagin or anyone of their ilk have destroyed "politically incorrect" manuscripts?

    Don’t give them ideas. Those folks would put patriarchal and speciesist “Beowulf” down the memory hole.

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  95. The average person in medieval Europe was a poor white, but poor whites are almost never the focus of medieval scholars.

    I’m not a medievalist, but my wife is, and I’ve accompanied her to lots of medieval conferences. I attended the conference at Leeds once and the bigger conference at Kalamazoo many times. The conference at Leeds is rather stuffy, but the fact that they have devoted an entire session to otherness shows how wrongheaded the Chronicle article is. Moreover, the conference at Kalamazoo is the most open conference in the humanities, as far as I know. It seems that anyone can propose a session on anything medieval and it will get accepted; in fact, it doesn’t even have to be exactly medieval (such as the sessions on Tolkien) and it will still be accepted. While a majority of the sessions are on traditional topics, like King Arthur or Chartres Cathedral, there are plenty of sessions devoted to topics on women, gays, and just general otherness. Moreover, anyone can go to any session they like. I myself went to a session once on Jewish philosophers writing in Arabic (and if I hadn’t gone, the number of presenters would have exceeded the number of people in the audience).

    As for the people who are there, as Charlotte Allen mentions above (comment #76), there are lots of women who are up and coming, so the field will skew female in the future, and that means more emphasis on topics like textiles and less on warfare. Minorities are welcome, but few attend since few are interested (just as few women are interested in medieval warfare and few men in medieval textiles). The one black I encountered at Kalamazoo was from Africa and not America.

    But what is missing in the field is any interest in poor whites. Even when poor whites are described as serfs or peasants, there are still no sessions devoted to them. Maybe this is because most of the people at these conferences themselves are not poor, so they have no interest. Anyway, a few years ago a big-name medievalist actually pointed this out. See here:

    http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=vvk8z6cab&v=001Uw9QefivccLAel1cSq0JHOeS52YcW1dwLI-OF8_Wr-KKM6q6B9gpmQmiNzylCnjLVZT1YtwlsbZ8TeBtmxzsFkETj1YsM1tvIGuk4EeTJL8%3D

    Her little essay has had no effect on scholarly interests.

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  96. Haven’t read all the comments yet, but interesting that any group of Whites, even Classicists or Medievalists can easily be termed Supremicists, strange when you consider that the term Medieval screams European Culture. I always laugh when I hear talk about the splendor of the Mayan and Inca ruins that dot Central and South America and the conversation about what engineering prowess it took to build them. In Europe, ten centuries before Machu Pichu, the first of the mighty, still functional and archeitecturally magnificent cathedrals were rising towards the sky.

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    More like a couple of hundred years, with a lot of overlap. Machu Picchu dates from the 15th century. It's an entire complex. Romanesque cathedrals began to be built during the 9th century, Gothic cathedrals during the 12th. The Classic Mayan period--when the pyramids at Tikal were built--lasted from about 450 to about 900 A.D. So the last Gothic cathedrals were built around the same time as Machu Picchu. The Classic Mayan period was drawing to a close as the first Romanesque cathedrals were being built.
  97. @Anon
    “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    Homos are one people you can't exile or eradicate.

    If you get rid of all Armenians, they are no more.

    But if you get rid of all homos, new ones will be born... even in an arch-anti-homo family.

    Homo-ness is not an identity but a condition. It's like some kids are born deaf, blind, or with 6 fingers.

    What about Bill di Blasio’s wife then?

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  98. The medievalist Eileen A. Joy believes the problems stem from a combination of factors: The subject matter itself can be Eurocentric,….

    Can be eurocentric? What else would it be?

    “The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says.

    I.e., the field has been resistant to the fashionable horses**t which has destroyed other disciplines. Eileen Joy isn’t a scholar; she is a vandal. By the way, here is a picture of her:

    Eileen Joy

    Another angry, ugly lesbian who wishes to wreck normal, healthy society because it makes her feel uncomfortable with her otherness.

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  99. @Father O'Hara
    Well I'm through with Dr. Who. Of course,I've never actually seen it...

    I had barely seen it for ages. But ironically the last couple of episodes were really good, the pozz was dialed down to one, as opposed to the usual eleven. It proves they can actually do a good job when they are not beating us over the head with The Agenda™. I should have realised that was just softening us up for what was about to happen.

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  100. @newrouter
    "“The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says."


    in other patriarchy news;

    Chechen top dog Kadyrov: “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/07/chechen-top-dog-kadyrov-we-dont-have-any-gays-if-there-are-any-take-them-to-canada

    newrouter, the article written by a woman mentions misogyny as it quotes three women academics.

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    newrouter, the article written by a woman mentions misogyny as it quotes three women academics.

    Yes, I noticed that. What a nice, unbiased article.
  101. @songbird
    The worst mainstream geo-cultural studies I have experienced are Native American, followed by (just a guest professor in an art class) Islamic.

    Yes, my college had a diversity requirement. And no, I did not take African studies.

    Native American studies was mainly about berries and nuts and grudges. Islamic studies was about how they could have painted like Renaissance artists, only they did not want to. I am sure there are some respectable individuals in both, but they are not especially common.

    songbird, and Native Americans could have invented the cell phone but smoke signals were way cooler, and none of the view inhibiting cell towers.

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  102. The author of the article and the three women academics quoted should sit down and watch Monty Python’s “The Holy Grail” and maybe they will see what a lot of people think of the Middle Ages. “I fart in your general direction.”

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  103. I’ll wait for Davin Brooks to write an article about how he took a lady friend, with only a “high school degree,” to a Medieval banquet and she was put off by terms like “broth” and “roasted mutton” and “a flagon of mead.” He’ll ask her if she wants to eat Mexican and she will nod affirmatively. And as he leaves all the guests will wonder why the Tyrion Lannister look a like is leaving the banquet hall.

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  104. @Anon
    Sometimes it has be lost to be found again.

    Why did West rise but Byzantine fall? Byzantine kept the culture, and people grew bored and apathetic. But the West lost it and there was excitement in its rediscovery and rebirth.

    Why is Europe falling now? People are bored.

    It's like China. The Old System had to fall for the new one to rise stronger.

    The old trees must be destroyed by fire to make room for new shoots.

    The really dire thing now is that the fall is being accompanied by invasion of foreigners.

    It's one thing for the system to fall but for the people remain the same(or be invaded by people of talent and similar genetics). It's quite another for the system to fall along with massive population replacement invasions by people of trouble.

    Germanics were barbarian but not without genetic means to build an even greater civilization.
    But the newcomers to EU seem like civilization-bunker-busters.

    Byzantium fell because it was attacked by Islam, and the successors of Rome, the only people who could have helped them, were disunited.

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    What you’re seeing in medieval studies has a lot to do with the evolution of fantasy fiction since the 1970s. Ever since that time period, a lot of fantasy, (which has a much larger female readership than science fiction does), has created the trope of the kick-ass female warrior in medieval settings who trounces all the men in battle. We’ve had almost 40 years of these unrealistic Mary Sue heroines (look up Mary Sue if you don’t know what that trope means), and these novels have given teenage girls a completely false sense of what the Middle Ages were like.

    Many of the authors of these novels have also made a point of including characters of color so they can be up-to-date and lecture their reader about racism–it’s a big, fanatical deal in the SF & F world these days to prove what an SJW author you are. These COCs give female readers the impression that the Middle Ages were loaded with minorities just like multicultural America is today. Many young women living today have never known the mainly white America that existed pre-1970s. They’ve always lived in a culture that was extremely mixed because of our great immigrant influx, and this especially true if they live in big coastal US cities. If you walk the streets of any of these, you see POCs right and left. These young readers unconsciously assume it’s always been like that. Many of these young women also grew up with the equal rights conferred on them by the rise of feminism since the 1970s, and they’re not at all prepared to understand or able to accept that the past was different. They cannot escape their own ethnocentrism, though they’d blow a fuse if you told them that.

    But a few of these female readers love the medieval culture from these novels so much they take medieval studies in college, where they’re utterly shocked to discover their subject matter is almost 100% white, and the women stayed home and stitched miles of tapestry instead of kicking ass in battle. Then the Jewish academics find out about Jewish expulsions from various medieval countries, and the SJW mind goes into an anguished tizzy. They wail and whine and sob over the destruction of their illusions, because they cannot accept that it’s not as glamous as they thought. So they try to completely remake the entire period into the romantic dream image they created from their fantasy novels, an image that has no basis in reality. They don’t like the message that women have feminism because white men gave it to them, and they don’t like the message that POCs have Western Culture because white men gave it to them.

    Another problem is that female medieval scholars balk at learning anything about medieval politics. In making decisions, the average woman tends to focus more on a ruler’s personality than on the logic behind his decisions. Politics is a bore to most women. Female medieval scholars would rather learn about butter-churning than actually pay attention to Henry VIII’s policies regarding Francis I or whatever.

    There actually is quite a long list of women whose behavior and decisions were important in the medieval era like Emma of Normady, St. Margaret of Scotland, Empress Matilda, Eleanor of Aquitaine, Eleanor of Provence (her decisions profoundly destabilized the reign of her husband, Henry III), Isabella of France (the she-wolf who plotted against her husband, Edward II), Margaret of Anjou (the main leader of the one of the factions in the War of the Roses), Catherine of Aragon (without her there would be no Protestant England), Elizabeth I, Mary Queen of Scots, Bloody Mary (look what she did to the Protestants), Anne Boleyn (look what she did to the Catholics), Joan of Arc, Marie de Medici, Isabella of Spain, Madame de Maintenon, and I could go on and on.

    But the actual nuts and bolts of rulership? The female scholars don’t want to know it. It’s boring and distasteful to them. Part of the problem is that some of the women listed above were not nice people, and they f*cked up in a big way. It’s not feminist to recognize that women can be evil or incompetent. So the female scholars daydream about the romance and chivalry and the sumptuous women’s clothing and jewelry-wearing bits, and blanket-stitch their modern SJW world into this fantasy to make it complete.

    The rest of it? It’s too icky.

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    utterly shocked to discover their subject matter is almost 100% white, and the women stayed home and stitched miles of tapestry instead of kicking ass in battle.
     
    That's also another effect of modernism. Healthy, married medieval women with a steady food supply could expect to be pregnant once every 2 years or so. Nursing offers about 1 year of natural contraception.

    Nursing and pregnancy are physically demanding activities and probably why the female half of the species cannot keep up physically with the male half. Women have to be capable of redirecting food/nourishment to the child. Nursing actually consumes more calories than pregnancy. I ate more than my husband when I was nursing.

    Marriage presented all the physical challenges a woman might want for a lifetime and I'm overlooking the dangers of childbirth. We moderns tend to over emphasize the dangers to women (childbirth appears to be mostly a bad idea for the infant) but obviously hemorrhage, etc was always an option with each and every birth.

    So yeah, sitting around doing tapestries sounds good. Medieval nun doesn't sound half bad either.
  106. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Ivy
    Those academic mirth makers. Who else could combine medieval studies and avant-garde research? Now entire oeuvres will be expunged due to disallowed themes. Such staple characters as the nain bossu or the lèpre will be consigned to history. No more hunchbacks, dwarves, lepers, Nôtre Dame or other symbols of oppression.

    The real target is not far behind: Tristan et Iseult, in its various forms written or sung, effrontery to the very idea of criticality. That pair represent anti-intersectionality. As the hysterical mob marches through history, it shouldn't be long until the Bible is set to be emended.

    “As the hysterical mob marches through history, it shouldn’t be long until the Bible is set to be emended.”

    Yeah, like that never happened before.

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    “The alt-right’s “fantasy” of the medieval past couldn’t be further from the truth, says Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies.”

    Which itself, in MY good old days, was the PONTIFICAL Institute of Mediaeval [note spelling] Studies. Fulling integrated into the “secular” UofT in the 80s, now apparently directed by a WOMAN named AKBARI, who is whining about muh diversity.

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  108. @unzerker

    For instance, there was no Middle Ages for Greek Byzantines since they didn’t undergo [..] Dark Ages,
     
    This is one of those myths that keeps coming back.
    Both the Byzantine world and the Muslim world suffered from collapse at least as severe as Western Europe. Entire cities were disbanded in the Byzantine and Muslim world, something which didn't happen in Western Europe.
    And they all climbed out of it around the same time, in the mid 10th century.

    Both the Byzantine world and the Muslim world suffered from collapse at least as severe as Western Europe.

    Is this an elaborate troll? There was no ‘Muslm world collapse’ during the Dark Ages since the Muslims were the primary agents doing the collapsing.

    Entire cities were disbanded in the Byzantine and Muslim world, something which didn’t happen in Western Europe.

    Again, it was the Muslim barbarians who were doing the disbanding.

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    How would you call the Middle East, North Africa and Islamic Spain then?
    My point is these places also suffered a population collapse during the dark age.

    I really don't understand why this agitates you so much, since you seem to agree with me.
  109. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @syonredux

    Alt-right online forums have co-opted themes from the Middle Ages and created memes that feature a battle cry from the Crusades, "Deus vult," or "God wills it," to advocate for violence against nonwhite people. A man charged with killing two men in Portland, Ore., in May posted on his Facebook page "Hail Vinland!!! Hail Victory!!!," referring to the 11th-century Norse colonization of North America.

    "It should be a really, really important time for the field to reflect on why are these things going on and what can we do to combat that," says Dorothy Kim, an assistant professor of English at Vassar. "The worry I would have is that, is the field going to be forever linked to white supremacy?"
     
    What I'm saying here is that the field is toxic to POC. Whiteness has to be kept to acceptable levels....like, say, in the NBA...

    But for the most part, scholars who don’t fit the mold of the stereotypical medievalist — "a cis, heterosexual white guy in tweed, possibly with a little gray hair, maybe with a beard," Ms. Kim says — face obstacles to changing the field from within.
     
    I'm not saying that we need a purge.....But, if we have to have one, I've got some ideas as to which kinds of people should be "eliminated"....

    “But for the most part, scholars who don’t fit the mold of the stereotypical medievalist — “a cis, heterosexual white guy in tweed, possibly with a little gray hair, maybe with a beard,” Ms. Kim says — face obstacles to changing the field from within.”

    You mean, this guy:

    http://estaticos04.elmundo.es/…/01/07/1231328949_0.jpg

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  110. @anonymous

    It’s like some kids are born deaf, blind, or with 6 fingers.
     
    A birth defect?

    Or red hair. I hate those fuckin’ gingers.

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  111. Defund the left.

    There are certain things we can all do:

    1. Boycott Hollywood and the mainstrean media. Cancel cable subscriptions, stop going to the movies etc. This is a win-win strategy. We save time and money, they lose money and they also lose a propaganda platform.

    2. Don’t waste years and go into debt obtaining useless social science and humanities degrees.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Gresham's University. That may be where academia is headed, as the bad ideas drive out the good. In the increasing virtualization of everything, how long can arcane and abstruse matters and their professors last, and the latter maintain their sinecures? At some point, younger scholars would seem to want their own path to knowledge that is not so full of potholes, detours and other impediments. No amount of rock-climbing walls or other enticements may overcome the stark realization of non-dischargeable debt incurred for no appreciable income. Some thinning and redistribution of the colleges appears imminent.
  112. @Buffalo Joe
    Haven't read all the comments yet, but interesting that any group of Whites, even Classicists or Medievalists can easily be termed Supremicists, strange when you consider that the term Medieval screams European Culture. I always laugh when I hear talk about the splendor of the Mayan and Inca ruins that dot Central and South America and the conversation about what engineering prowess it took to build them. In Europe, ten centuries before Machu Pichu, the first of the mighty, still functional and archeitecturally magnificent cathedrals were rising towards the sky.

    More like a couple of hundred years, with a lot of overlap. Machu Picchu dates from the 15th century. It’s an entire complex. Romanesque cathedrals began to be built during the 9th century, Gothic cathedrals during the 12th. The Classic Mayan period–when the pyramids at Tikal were built–lasted from about 450 to about 900 A.D. So the last Gothic cathedrals were built around the same time as Machu Picchu. The Classic Mayan period was drawing to a close as the first Romanesque cathedrals were being built.

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    Are you really comparing Mayan architecture, which never made it past the corbelled arch, with Romanesque cathedrals with their semi-circular arches, never mind Gothic cathedrals with their ogival arches?
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Charlotte, I am not going to argue with you here at Steve's Bar and Grille, but Machu Picchu dates according to what I have read to 1540s and the first of the grand cathedral to as early as 500 AD. Soaring arches, vaulted naves, stained glass windows, flying buttresses, spires and bell towers, bronze doors and three dimensional sculptures versus stone pyramids. And, many of those architecturally splendid edifices are still functional.
  113. @Anon
    “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    Homos are one people you can't exile or eradicate.

    If you get rid of all Armenians, they are no more.

    But if you get rid of all homos, new ones will be born... even in an arch-anti-homo family.

    Homo-ness is not an identity but a condition. It's like some kids are born deaf, blind, or with 6 fingers.

    I often wonder if gays will regret these “gay is genetic” studies that do seem to suggest a biological basis to sexual orientation.

    What if they find out what many have long suspected – that like what the psychiatrist community believed until the 70s….that its a genetic illness of the neurological & psychiatric systems of the body…..

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    Maybe it's more like being born left-handed.
    , @dr kill
    It's going to end up being an effect of the birth-provider, that is to say an extra-genetic effect of the uterus in which development occurs, usually the maternal uterus, but these days lots of rented uteri are affecting embryos too.
    A fascinating field this is, the manner in which the fetus-bearer's state of mind and hormonal well-being affect the pre-term child.
  114. @Lurker

    Whites (especially white men) cannot be allowed to retain ownership of ANYTHING. This is their Primary Directive.
     
    And that includes Dr Who.

    https://twitter.com/DoctorWho_BBCA/status/886611172715241473

    My impression is that Dr. Who’s core audience is anglophone teenage girls, for whom The Doctor is an idealized boyfriend figure: witty, personable, indefatigable but still somewhat mysterious. This is why the producers keep Dr. Who’s sidekick as a nice but not too pretty young woman: she is the proxy for the core audience.

    Whether this weakly sublimated female adolescent yearning will survive transfer to a woman Doctor remains to be seen.

    Or will adolescent boys hearken to the call of an attractive but stern nanny figure? Well, maybe English public school boys…

    Prediction: ratings drop. After a decent interval, woman Doctor eased out for new upper-middle class teen idol. No public mention of actual reason for change.

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    My impression is that Dr. Who’s core audience is anglophone teenage girls
     
    This is the problem. We don't really know what the core audience is. I'm sure the BBC does and willfully ignores it nonetheless. At one time it would have certainly skewed toward boys but obviously the BBC is desperate to change that.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Doctor Who's core audience is grownups who call themselves 'nerds.'
  115. SJWs seem to view traditional white Christians as already extinct. Certainly not worthy or protection, kindness or admiration, even at our most vulnerable( infants, elderly, disabled.)

    When I was in high school, a young man about 25 at the time, came to his parents home in my neighborhood for the summer. A group of us all went to the beach together. He told me he was working on his Ph.D. in medieval history. I went weak in the knees everytime I saw him after that till he returned to school.

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  116. Speaking of WOKE depictions of the past, here’s Mohawk, a new film about the War of 1812:

    To that end, Geoghegan did well to cast a Mohawk actress in the lead role. Kaniehtiio Horn is a powerful presence as Oak, who fights to survive this brutal war alongside her lovers Calvin Two Rivers (Justin Rain) and Joshua Pinsmail (Eamon Farren). They’re a family unlike any we’ve seen onscreen before, a representation of polyamory that Geoghegan – a member of the LGBTQ community – said during the Q&A was important to him to portray.

    That’s right, bigots. It’s a movie about an Amerind woman and her two male lovers.Smash the cis-het patriarchy NOW!

    …..Although, couldn’t they have found a somewhat less European-looking actress for the part of the Mohawk lady…..

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Kaniehtiio+Horn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibjdnp35DVAhVqr1QKHQGqDIQQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=638

    Oak, Calvin and Joshua are pursued by a band of racist American defectors including WWE’s Jon Huber, Robert Longstreet, Ian Colletti and BMD’s own Noah Segan. They’re led by the deliciously evil Hezekiah Holt (Ezra Buzzington), a scenery-chomping villain audiences will love to hate. Mohawk is a small, low-budget film, very intimate in setting, but it never has trouble establishing the depth of these stakes. We’re terribly invested in Oak and her family, and we want the very worst for Hezekiah Holt.

    Uber-WOKE.See, we’re talking about a film that depicts evil White racist cis-hets trying to slaughter a polyamorous, inter-racial family….

    http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/07/17/fantasia-2017-review-mohawk-is-something-different

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    Its funny, because Kaneihtiio's sister Waneek is a former olympic Athlete who got kicked off the mohawk reserve after she married a white man.
    , @Olorin

    See, we’re talking about a film that depicts evil White racist cis-hets trying to slaughter a polyamorous, inter-racial family….
     
    That would be the Holy Family of the First Internationalist CathedraMosqGogue of the Sacred Intersectionality (aka Unitarian Universalism).

    But didn't the Christians beat them to that with the rabbi with superpowers whose carpenter dad was fooled by a gal whose mate was a pigeon sent by god to beget upon her himself whom he would later kill in order to rejoin himself?

    (Of course we all know that UUs are awful storytellers. They're the Kinko's Copy Centers of religious narrative.)

    I don't have a problem with religions forming around nonsense that tickles certain neural centers.

    What I have a problem with is when everyone is expected, upon pain of severe punishment and even death, to receive it as something other than nonsense that tickles certain neural centers.

    What I have a problem with is when some people think everyone should have the same tickle response.

    I mean, Zen koans are tickly nonsense as well, but I can't say I've known of many slaughters committed in their assertion.

    Which reminds me:

    The monk said to the master, "Master, what is the way?"

    The master replied, "An open-eyed man falling into the well."

    That's got so much Odin and Mimir in it, you don't even have to think it to get your US RDA of Eddic satori.

    , @David
    While other sites are still putting woke in quotes, Syon takes it higher with uber-woke.
    , @dr kill
    If Kate Beckinsale isn't in it, I'm not going.
  117. @John Gruskos
    Defund the left.

    There are certain things we can all do:

    1. Boycott Hollywood and the mainstrean media. Cancel cable subscriptions, stop going to the movies etc. This is a win-win strategy. We save time and money, they lose money and they also lose a propaganda platform.

    2. Don't waste years and go into debt obtaining useless social science and humanities degrees.

    Gresham’s University. That may be where academia is headed, as the bad ideas drive out the good. In the increasing virtualization of everything, how long can arcane and abstruse matters and their professors last, and the latter maintain their sinecures? At some point, younger scholars would seem to want their own path to knowledge that is not so full of potholes, detours and other impediments. No amount of rock-climbing walls or other enticements may overcome the stark realization of non-dischargeable debt incurred for no appreciable income. Some thinning and redistribution of the colleges appears imminent.

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    Dr Jordan Peterson of the University of Toronto is thinking along just these same lines. Have a listen to his plans for an online replacement for the unsalvageable mess that is modern academia. He lays his ideas out when answering a question at the end of his recent lecture "Biblical Series VI: The Psychology of the Flood" now available over at YouTube. His answer starts at 2:11:45 .

    It's darkly funny that a tenured prof at U of T has to go to such lengths to bypass people like "Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies" in order to get the humanities out to the rest of us. Quite an academic elite we've got now, eh? It's like an airport being so mismanaged that pilots have to organize a bus service in the parking lot to get their passengers safely to another airport to continue their journey.
    , @AM

    No amount of rock-climbing walls or other enticements may overcome the stark realization of non-dischargeable debt incurred for no appreciable income. Some thinning and redistribution of the colleges appears imminent.
     
    Already planning to send son to community college, then a state u for programming/engineering type degree.

    Eldest daughter may only get an associates degree, and try to set her up in a small business if she doesn't marry, even though she's capable of a BA or more. To be clear, she doesn't have any attractions for a particular career, so it's not like we're denying something. We're just trying not to do the "I don't what to do, so get a BA/MA thing".

    I can't advise either one of them to take on the debt or the propaganda schools. What a waste on so many levels.
  118. I don’t think this really calls for much of a comment beyond: “Seriously, is this a Thing?”

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  119. @Almost Missouri
    My impression is that Dr. Who's core audience is anglophone teenage girls, for whom The Doctor is an idealized boyfriend figure: witty, personable, indefatigable but still somewhat mysterious. This is why the producers keep Dr. Who's sidekick as a nice but not too pretty young woman: she is the proxy for the core audience.

    Whether this weakly sublimated female adolescent yearning will survive transfer to a woman Doctor remains to be seen.

    Or will adolescent boys hearken to the call of an attractive but stern nanny figure? Well, maybe English public school boys...

    Prediction: ratings drop. After a decent interval, woman Doctor eased out for new upper-middle class teen idol. No public mention of actual reason for change.

    My impression is that Dr. Who’s core audience is anglophone teenage girls

    This is the problem. We don’t really know what the core audience is. I’m sure the BBC does and willfully ignores it nonetheless. At one time it would have certainly skewed toward boys but obviously the BBC is desperate to change that.

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    This is the problem. We don’t really know what the core audience is (for Doctor Who). I’m sure the BBC does and willfully ignores it nonetheless. At one time it would have certainly skewed toward boys but obviously the BBC is desperate to change that.
     
    I was privileged enough to see the very first episode of Dr. Who in 1963. I was twelve years old, and I would say the target audience was, and probably still is, 11-year-old children, as it seemed a bit young for me, but OK for my sister.

    Of course I never gave a thought to the TV show being popular more than 50 years later. At the time, what we liked about it most was the eerie theme tune, one of the first well-known electronic tunes created by splicing tapes in the days before synthesizers.

    The other amusing notion was the blue police box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_box which was much larger inside than it appeared from the outside.

    The original sets were, or course, extremely cheap and rickety, as this was a cheaply made children's program on black and white TV.

    The first show was on the same day, or the day after another less interesting event, the assassination of President John Kennedy. In school we studied a poem about Kennedy written by the Poet Laureate John Masefield writing about another John.

    All generous hearts lament the leader killed
    The young chief with the smile, the radiant face,
    The winning way that turned a wondrous race
    Into sublimer pathways, leading on.

    Grant to us life that though the man be gone
    The promise of his spirit be fulfilled.

    However, Dr. Who was rather more interesting than the death of this young chief, even though he did not get a poem. Where was America, anyway?

    The original villains were the Daleks, who went around like pest contractors chanting "exterminate, exterminate." Every child had a Dalek outfit for Christmas--cheap crap really, but plastic was a luxury in those days-- and was practiced in the art of the Dalek chant.

    I tried to exterminate my sisters, but without success, and half a century later, they are still around.

  120. O/T but related via literature theme, about Jane Austen’s Northanger Abbey, from Tyler Cowen’s blog. Note the discussion of voluntary spies and comment about public scrutiny, as some things don’t seem to change.

    “Dear Miss Morland, consider the dreadful nature of the suspicions you have entertained. What have you been judging from? Remember the country and the age in which we live. Remember that we are English, that we are Christians. Consult your own understanding, your own sense of the probable, your own observation of what is passing around you. Does our education prepare us for such atrocities? Do our laws connive at them? Could they be perpetrated without being known, in a country like this, where social and literary intercourse is on such a footing, where every man is surrounded by a neighbourhood of voluntary spies, and where roads and newspapers lay everything open? Dearest Miss Morland, what ideas have you been admitting?”

    They had reached the end of the gallery, and with tears of shame she ran off to her own room.

    I first read this passage in 1965 at the age of 17 and it made a great impression on me. The heroine’s unruly imagination is suddenly tethered by this vigorous remonstration from General Tilney. What’s striking is that in the very early 19th century, before the railways had transformed the country, long before the telegraph, the General evokes a society that is intricately connected, where no one can hide from public scrutiny when a network of communications and media can “lay everything open”. No place here for wild and foolish imaginings. Perhaps this is the very essence of the condition of modernity – always to believe one has arrived in one’s time at the summit of the modern. – commentary by Ian McEwan

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jul/15/which-is-greatest-jane-austen-novel-200-anniversary-of-death

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  121. @Anonymous

    There’s nothing complicated about this. She’s bitching because she chose an inherently European subject matter.
     
    What if they go into these subjects with the intent of bitching about it?

    Look at the glut of critical theorists in some areas. While it's increasingly difficult in these critical-theorist safe spaces to always be more radical than thou, such an emotional labor of love cannot be compared to the dangerous work of these medievalists woking up the sleeping bears of their discipline.

    So much sexism and racism and xenophobia is left rotting in these fields because nitpickers can't make it past the ramparts of tweedy old white men. To the pioneers go the academic spoils.

    That girl Shannon whatever who pushed her way into the Citadel did exactly this. She couldn’t even hack it but now it’s coed and thus lower status forever.

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  122. @Broski
    The appropriately named Ms. Fagin Davis:

    https://www.simmons.edu/Faculty/Lisa-Davis

    I'm surprised the name has survived a century and a-half post Dickens.

    I’d always assumed it was a variant of the (((Russian))) surname Feygin, e.g. Mark the lawyer who’s currently in the news, or NY photographer Felix.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feigin

    There’s an Irish name, O’Faodhagáin, that’s transcribed that way sometimes, as well. Although decidedly less so since Chucky-boy stuck the boot in in his novel.

    http://www.clanfagan.com/fagan-information/the-fagan-name

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  123. @Ivy
    Those academic mirth makers. Who else could combine medieval studies and avant-garde research? Now entire oeuvres will be expunged due to disallowed themes. Such staple characters as the nain bossu or the lèpre will be consigned to history. No more hunchbacks, dwarves, lepers, Nôtre Dame or other symbols of oppression.

    The real target is not far behind: Tristan et Iseult, in its various forms written or sung, effrontery to the very idea of criticality. That pair represent anti-intersectionality. As the hysterical mob marches through history, it shouldn't be long until the Bible is set to be emended.

    Never mind Tristan & Yseult; what they really want us all to do is accept Abelard & Héloïse as role-models.
    This is a zero-sum contest, no prisoners, as far as they’re concerned.

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  124. @anonymous coward

    Both the Byzantine world and the Muslim world suffered from collapse at least as severe as Western Europe.
     
    Is this an elaborate troll? There was no 'Muslm world collapse' during the Dark Ages since the Muslims were the primary agents doing the collapsing.

    Entire cities were disbanded in the Byzantine and Muslim world, something which didn’t happen in Western Europe.
     
    Again, it was the Muslim barbarians who were doing the disbanding.

    How would you call the Middle East, North Africa and Islamic Spain then?
    My point is these places also suffered a population collapse during the dark age.

    I really don’t understand why this agitates you so much, since you seem to agree with me.

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  125. @newrouter
    "By J. Clara Chan JULY 16, 2017"

    Any relation to Charlie?

    I was thinking maybe 4chan, or even Murdoch-chan.

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  126. @Anonymous

    In other news now we have Doctor Hoo-ha instead of Doctor Who.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

     

    Were you trying for "Doctor Hoo-Hoo" there?

    Dr Ho, no more Dr Bro.

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  127. @syonredux
    Yeesh. Even as a kid, that scene bugged the hell out of me. The telescope was invented in the early 17th century......

    The new truethink is that everything that exists had already been invented by nonwhite noneuropeans at least a bit earlier.

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    The new truethink is that everything that exists had already been invented by nonwhite noneuropeans at least a bit earlier.
     
    and in a completely unusable form, like Dead White Man Leonardo's helicopter or Hero's steam-widget. Olmec wheels, anyone?

    Anyway as everyone knows, absolutely any cultural or technological development ever recorded at any time in human history anywhere in the world, from football to nuclear fusion, had been previously invented by the Han Chinese in 3000 BC or something.
  128. @the Supreme Gentleman

    “The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says.
     
    This is really a remarkable quote when you stop to think about it. It's not just the common, factually tenuous, but at least hypothetically understandable, charge that stale pale white males are disadvantaging minorities, and so we need some equality increasing measure to rectify things. It's an open admission that the very idea of anyone, anywhere feeling comfortable as a proud European Christian is what WOKE scholars should be fighting against.

    Obviously, in a rational world, taxpayer money would be subsidizing academics who value and preserve our heritage, not ones who devalue and destroy it.

    And the obvious response is to disband these research groups, send the deplorable people to extermination, I mean reeducation camps, and demand that the publishing journals retract any and all papers issued prior to the book burning. Which is today.

    Nazis looking out for “jewish science” comes to mind.

    As Hilbert said about the Göttinger Mathematics Department in response to a naziwoke functionary’s question on whether it wasn’t working better without the Jews: “Working better? It doesn’t exist anymore.”

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  129. @Neoconned
    I often wonder if gays will regret these "gay is genetic" studies that do seem to suggest a biological basis to sexual orientation.

    What if they find out what many have long suspected - that like what the psychiatrist community believed until the 70s....that its a genetic illness of the neurological & psychiatric systems of the body.....

    Maybe it’s more like being born left-handed.

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  130. Progs used to like the idea of medieval Europe because it was short hand for illiterate, backward and savage Europeans who believed in witchcraft and didn’t even know what the Romans knew. (‘Imma ’bout to get medieval on yo’ ass’)

    But the Middle Ages have gained some respect lately, not to mention the Social Justice Jihadis realized that even an academic sinecure studying dirty old white people is still a sweet academic sinecure!

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  131. @Almost Missouri
    My impression is that Dr. Who's core audience is anglophone teenage girls, for whom The Doctor is an idealized boyfriend figure: witty, personable, indefatigable but still somewhat mysterious. This is why the producers keep Dr. Who's sidekick as a nice but not too pretty young woman: she is the proxy for the core audience.

    Whether this weakly sublimated female adolescent yearning will survive transfer to a woman Doctor remains to be seen.

    Or will adolescent boys hearken to the call of an attractive but stern nanny figure? Well, maybe English public school boys...

    Prediction: ratings drop. After a decent interval, woman Doctor eased out for new upper-middle class teen idol. No public mention of actual reason for change.

    Doctor Who’s core audience is grownups who call themselves ‘nerds.’

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  132. @syonredux
    Speaking of WOKE depictions of the past, here's Mohawk, a new film about the War of 1812:

    To that end, Geoghegan did well to cast a Mohawk actress in the lead role. Kaniehtiio Horn is a powerful presence as Oak, who fights to survive this brutal war alongside her lovers Calvin Two Rivers (Justin Rain) and Joshua Pinsmail (Eamon Farren). They’re a family unlike any we’ve seen onscreen before, a representation of polyamory that Geoghegan – a member of the LGBTQ community – said during the Q&A was important to him to portray.
     
    That's right, bigots. It's a movie about an Amerind woman and her two male lovers.Smash the cis-het patriarchy NOW!


    .....Although, couldn't they have found a somewhat less European-looking actress for the part of the Mohawk lady.....

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Kaniehtiio+Horn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibjdnp35DVAhVqr1QKHQGqDIQQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=638

    Oak, Calvin and Joshua are pursued by a band of racist American defectors including WWE’s Jon Huber, Robert Longstreet, Ian Colletti and BMD’s own Noah Segan. They’re led by the deliciously evil Hezekiah Holt (Ezra Buzzington), a scenery-chomping villain audiences will love to hate. Mohawk is a small, low-budget film, very intimate in setting, but it never has trouble establishing the depth of these stakes. We’re terribly invested in Oak and her family, and we want the very worst for Hezekiah Holt.
     
    Uber-WOKE.See, we're talking about a film that depicts evil White racist cis-hets trying to slaughter a polyamorous, inter-racial family....

    http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/07/17/fantasia-2017-review-mohawk-is-something-different

    Its funny, because Kaneihtiio’s sister Waneek is a former olympic Athlete who got kicked off the mohawk reserve after she married a white man.

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  133. @Rod1963
    Notice it's a bunch of females pushing this crap. Same thing happened in the Protestant churches, colleges and in the military. The college educated women poisoned by Marxism and feminism insert themselves into these institutions and literally destroy them from the inside out.

    On a side note. It's rather amusing that one of the worst thing a woman who wants a family can do, is attend college. It will destroy her chances of finding a mate and having children in a good percentage of the time. They come out of college, heads stuffed with feminism and unable to relate to men or even make themselves attractive to them.

    On a side note. It’s rather amusing that one of the worst thing a woman who wants a family can do, is attend college. It will destroy her chances of finding a mate and having children in a good percentage of the time. They come out of college, heads stuffed with feminism and unable to relate to men or even make themselves attractive to them.

    nah, the best looking women generally want families and match up with a successful guy in college. The ones you descrube generally diidn’t have much of a chance to begin with.

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  134. @Cagey Beast
    The alt-right’s “fantasy” of the medieval past couldn’t be further from the truth, says Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies. …

    From everything I've seen of the Alt-Right online (and that's a lot) they're almost entirely uninterested in the Middle Ages. Apart from a few idiotic Crusader memes, everything of that happened between the pre-Christian era and the publication of Nietzsche's first book is kind of blurry for them. They're into pagans and then the neo-pagans and pretty much nothing in between; which is, of course, the space Medieval Studies inhabits.

    As for the arguments made in the article you posted above, I'm just left more certain that we never should have tried to share our things with these people. We never should have tried to share our stories, our institutions, our countries with people who can only resent us and try to destroy what we entrust them with. It's not funny anymore.

    They may be thinking of neoreaction rather than the alt-right. If you use “alt-right” to mean anything outside the mainstream right and/or anyone on the right who believes race exists and that there is no Original Sin of Whiteness, I guess they’re one and the same. But the way those groups are usually defined, they are distinct with some overlap.

    That being said, most neoreactionaries, even, aren’t particularly interested in Medieval history. If they prefer divine right kingship to popular sovereignty, they don’t go into detail about the manorial system, or whatever. They’re content mostly to criticize what happened since the Renaissance and Enlightenment.

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  135. @Cagey Beast
    The alt-right’s “fantasy” of the medieval past couldn’t be further from the truth, says Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies. …

    From everything I've seen of the Alt-Right online (and that's a lot) they're almost entirely uninterested in the Middle Ages. Apart from a few idiotic Crusader memes, everything of that happened between the pre-Christian era and the publication of Nietzsche's first book is kind of blurry for them. They're into pagans and then the neo-pagans and pretty much nothing in between; which is, of course, the space Medieval Studies inhabits.

    As for the arguments made in the article you posted above, I'm just left more certain that we never should have tried to share our things with these people. We never should have tried to share our stories, our institutions, our countries with people who can only resent us and try to destroy what we entrust them with. It's not funny anymore.

    “These people”? The people quoted by Steve are all women. Do you refer to that?

    Whether you do or not I find that I do, and increasingly.

    Their purely emotional approach to absolutely everything precludes them from playing a useful role in anything other than … what is that refrain I hear?:

    Kinder, Küche, Kirche.

    And only going to church, certainly not saying anything once within one. Prayers excepted of course.

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    By "these people" I mean the people who aren't straight, White, Gentile men and define themselves in opposition to same.

    You're right about women, sadly. Not even the most embittered satirist with a misogynist streak a mile wide could have predicted how badly women have been acting in just the last few years.
  136. @syonredux
    Speaking of WOKE depictions of the past, here's Mohawk, a new film about the War of 1812:

    To that end, Geoghegan did well to cast a Mohawk actress in the lead role. Kaniehtiio Horn is a powerful presence as Oak, who fights to survive this brutal war alongside her lovers Calvin Two Rivers (Justin Rain) and Joshua Pinsmail (Eamon Farren). They’re a family unlike any we’ve seen onscreen before, a representation of polyamory that Geoghegan – a member of the LGBTQ community – said during the Q&A was important to him to portray.
     
    That's right, bigots. It's a movie about an Amerind woman and her two male lovers.Smash the cis-het patriarchy NOW!


    .....Although, couldn't they have found a somewhat less European-looking actress for the part of the Mohawk lady.....

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Kaniehtiio+Horn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibjdnp35DVAhVqr1QKHQGqDIQQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=638

    Oak, Calvin and Joshua are pursued by a band of racist American defectors including WWE’s Jon Huber, Robert Longstreet, Ian Colletti and BMD’s own Noah Segan. They’re led by the deliciously evil Hezekiah Holt (Ezra Buzzington), a scenery-chomping villain audiences will love to hate. Mohawk is a small, low-budget film, very intimate in setting, but it never has trouble establishing the depth of these stakes. We’re terribly invested in Oak and her family, and we want the very worst for Hezekiah Holt.
     
    Uber-WOKE.See, we're talking about a film that depicts evil White racist cis-hets trying to slaughter a polyamorous, inter-racial family....

    http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/07/17/fantasia-2017-review-mohawk-is-something-different

    See, we’re talking about a film that depicts evil White racist cis-hets trying to slaughter a polyamorous, inter-racial family….

    That would be the Holy Family of the First Internationalist CathedraMosqGogue of the Sacred Intersectionality (aka Unitarian Universalism).

    But didn’t the Christians beat them to that with the rabbi with superpowers whose carpenter dad was fooled by a gal whose mate was a pigeon sent by god to beget upon her himself whom he would later kill in order to rejoin himself?

    (Of course we all know that UUs are awful storytellers. They’re the Kinko’s Copy Centers of religious narrative.)

    I don’t have a problem with religions forming around nonsense that tickles certain neural centers.

    What I have a problem with is when everyone is expected, upon pain of severe punishment and even death, to receive it as something other than nonsense that tickles certain neural centers.

    What I have a problem with is when some people think everyone should have the same tickle response.

    I mean, Zen koans are tickly nonsense as well, but I can’t say I’ve known of many slaughters committed in their assertion.

    Which reminds me:

    The monk said to the master, “Master, what is the way?”

    The master replied, “An open-eyed man falling into the well.”

    That’s got so much Odin and Mimir in it, you don’t even have to think it to get your US RDA of Eddic satori.

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    But didn’t the Christians beat them to that with the rabbi with superpowers whose carpenter dad was fooled by a gal whose mate was a pigeon sent by god to beget upon her himself whom he would later kill in order to rejoin himself?
     
    No.

    The stupidity that is the rest of this post is why the West is in decline.
  137. @songbird
    The worst mainstream geo-cultural studies I have experienced are Native American, followed by (just a guest professor in an art class) Islamic.

    Yes, my college had a diversity requirement. And no, I did not take African studies.

    Native American studies was mainly about berries and nuts and grudges. Islamic studies was about how they could have painted like Renaissance artists, only they did not want to. I am sure there are some respectable individuals in both, but they are not especially common.

    I took two “diversity” courses, as I recall. One was called Race in America, or something. Which started out refreshingly saying everyone has always been racist. Or everyone is possessed of an attitude of Us versus Them, as the class may have put it. Which I interpreted as meaning everybody’s racist.

    However, soon we were informed that Whitey was the only group to come up with Scientific Racism, or pseudo-scientific racism to be more precise. You know, the thing that was once and forever blown up by Saint Boas. Plus, in the near past white people won against other peoples. And you can’t really be racist of you aren’t lording it over someone. (To be clear, Whitey has been declared de jure Illegitimate Overlord for all time. Even if white people fall from power never to recover, they will still be deemed to be in power.)

    For these reasons, it was okay to have a whole class on how wrong white people are to be racist, even though everyone is.

    The other was a giant auditorium class, where a lecturer does Power Point to like 150 adult-children three times a week, then a graduate student proctors tests on the textbook the lecturer never referenced. It was on Criminal Justice, and I wasn’t sure why that counted towards “diversity,” except that the “diverse” commit more crimes. There was a lot about racism, for instance an entire day on how the Chicago P.D. assassinated Black Panther Fred Hampton.

    Mostly, it was a hodge-podge of leftist law and orderism. They’re all little J. Edgar Hoovers when it comes to their pet crimes, assuming cishet-het-males are the perpetrators. Like rape, child abuse, woman abuse, gay bashing, etc.

    Eventually, the lecturer digressed deep into Native American history, and as he described basket weaving I had an out-of-body experience. “Where am I? What am I doing with my life?”

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    In such situations, you may ask yourself:

    Well, how did I get here? How do I work this? Where is that large automobile? What is that beautiful house? Where does that highway go to? Am I right? Am I wrong?

    And you may tell yourself "This is not my beautiful house!" And you may tell yourself "This is not my beautiful wife!"

    And you may say to yourself "My God! What have I done?"
  138. @Autochthon
    There is an invidious attack on blind review for papers which is embedded in this witch's (terribly written) harangue. She would have all the editors and referees for scholarly publications and conferences know each author's colour, age, sex, and preferences about whom he doinks before deciding upon the merits of a submission.

    She would have all the editors and referees for scholarly publications and conferences know each author’s colour, age, sex, and preferences about whom he doinks before deciding upon the merits of a submission.

    Well what the hell else would you have them use to decide the merits of a submission? The content? And if the doinker is a “he” do we even want him submitting papers?

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  139. @black sea
    A couple of points about the Washington Post article. First, this quote:

    “Academics and scholars must be mindful about using research done by only straight, white men . . . ."
     
    How exactly are academics supposed to keep track of the racial and ethnic identities and sexual preferences or gender self-definitions of those whose work they cite? By looking at the author's name, you can generally tell whether the person is male or female, but beyond that, it's either a matter of knowing the individual personally, or conducting some sort of creepy research on them. I suppose that the preferred answer is that the non-white, non-cisgendered authors will make these facts known in their published work.

    Also:

    …research done by white men are relied upon more heavily than those done by experts from other backgrounds…

    …Work done by women and other minorities have often been overlooked by their peers,

     

    Here are two easily identified subject-verb agreement errors. When you can't keep track of whether the subjects of your sentences are singular or plural, in what way are you qualified to write for a living, much less lecture your readers on how to think and learn?

    Finally, can't Jeff Bezos cough up enough money for some decent copy editors, especially since the NY Times is laying them off at the moment?

    WRT subject-verb agreement, the problem is Ms Chan’s cultural background. Friends of mine who teach Chinese kids tell me they have a real hard time with this. My guess is that her editors are afraid to correct her, for fear of being racist.

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  140. Medieval studies, like classics, sounds like the kind of academic field where a conservative personality should in no way be an obstacle to advancing the field and enjoying a great career. I can see a relative lack of “openness to new experiences” being a hindrance in a field where high creativity is paramount. Medieval studies would seem to be all about conscientiousness, attention to detail and even interest in past and old things. There is no natural disadvantage to being a conservative in such fields, so they must get actively pushed out.

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  141. @El Dato
    The new truethink is that everything that exists had already been invented by nonwhite noneuropeans at least a bit earlier.

    The new truethink is that everything that exists had already been invented by nonwhite noneuropeans at least a bit earlier.

    and in a completely unusable form, like Dead White Man Leonardo’s helicopter or Hero’s steam-widget. Olmec wheels, anyone?

    Anyway as everyone knows, absolutely any cultural or technological development ever recorded at any time in human history anywhere in the world, from football to nuclear fusion, had been previously invented by the Han Chinese in 3000 BC or something.

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  142. @Charlotte Allen
    More like a couple of hundred years, with a lot of overlap. Machu Picchu dates from the 15th century. It's an entire complex. Romanesque cathedrals began to be built during the 9th century, Gothic cathedrals during the 12th. The Classic Mayan period--when the pyramids at Tikal were built--lasted from about 450 to about 900 A.D. So the last Gothic cathedrals were built around the same time as Machu Picchu. The Classic Mayan period was drawing to a close as the first Romanesque cathedrals were being built.

    Are you really comparing Mayan architecture, which never made it past the corbelled arch, with Romanesque cathedrals with their semi-circular arches, never mind Gothic cathedrals with their ogival arches?

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    Are you really comparing Mayan architecture, which never made it past the corbelled arch, with Romanesque cathedrals with their semi-circular arches, never mind Gothic cathedrals with their ogival arches?
     
    It's the current year. All civilizations have to be equally awesome, even if they aren't.
  143. @syonredux
    Speaking of WOKE depictions of the past, here's Mohawk, a new film about the War of 1812:

    To that end, Geoghegan did well to cast a Mohawk actress in the lead role. Kaniehtiio Horn is a powerful presence as Oak, who fights to survive this brutal war alongside her lovers Calvin Two Rivers (Justin Rain) and Joshua Pinsmail (Eamon Farren). They’re a family unlike any we’ve seen onscreen before, a representation of polyamory that Geoghegan – a member of the LGBTQ community – said during the Q&A was important to him to portray.
     
    That's right, bigots. It's a movie about an Amerind woman and her two male lovers.Smash the cis-het patriarchy NOW!


    .....Although, couldn't they have found a somewhat less European-looking actress for the part of the Mohawk lady.....

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Kaniehtiio+Horn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibjdnp35DVAhVqr1QKHQGqDIQQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=638

    Oak, Calvin and Joshua are pursued by a band of racist American defectors including WWE’s Jon Huber, Robert Longstreet, Ian Colletti and BMD’s own Noah Segan. They’re led by the deliciously evil Hezekiah Holt (Ezra Buzzington), a scenery-chomping villain audiences will love to hate. Mohawk is a small, low-budget film, very intimate in setting, but it never has trouble establishing the depth of these stakes. We’re terribly invested in Oak and her family, and we want the very worst for Hezekiah Holt.
     
    Uber-WOKE.See, we're talking about a film that depicts evil White racist cis-hets trying to slaughter a polyamorous, inter-racial family....

    http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/07/17/fantasia-2017-review-mohawk-is-something-different

    While other sites are still putting woke in quotes, Syon takes it higher with uber-woke.

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  144. @Neoconned
    I often wonder if gays will regret these "gay is genetic" studies that do seem to suggest a biological basis to sexual orientation.

    What if they find out what many have long suspected - that like what the psychiatrist community believed until the 70s....that its a genetic illness of the neurological & psychiatric systems of the body.....

    It’s going to end up being an effect of the birth-provider, that is to say an extra-genetic effect of the uterus in which development occurs, usually the maternal uterus, but these days lots of rented uteri are affecting embryos too.
    A fascinating field this is, the manner in which the fetus-bearer’s state of mind and hormonal well-being affect the pre-term child.

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  145. @syonredux
    Speaking of WOKE depictions of the past, here's Mohawk, a new film about the War of 1812:

    To that end, Geoghegan did well to cast a Mohawk actress in the lead role. Kaniehtiio Horn is a powerful presence as Oak, who fights to survive this brutal war alongside her lovers Calvin Two Rivers (Justin Rain) and Joshua Pinsmail (Eamon Farren). They’re a family unlike any we’ve seen onscreen before, a representation of polyamory that Geoghegan – a member of the LGBTQ community – said during the Q&A was important to him to portray.
     
    That's right, bigots. It's a movie about an Amerind woman and her two male lovers.Smash the cis-het patriarchy NOW!


    .....Although, couldn't they have found a somewhat less European-looking actress for the part of the Mohawk lady.....

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Kaniehtiio+Horn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibjdnp35DVAhVqr1QKHQGqDIQQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=638

    Oak, Calvin and Joshua are pursued by a band of racist American defectors including WWE’s Jon Huber, Robert Longstreet, Ian Colletti and BMD’s own Noah Segan. They’re led by the deliciously evil Hezekiah Holt (Ezra Buzzington), a scenery-chomping villain audiences will love to hate. Mohawk is a small, low-budget film, very intimate in setting, but it never has trouble establishing the depth of these stakes. We’re terribly invested in Oak and her family, and we want the very worst for Hezekiah Holt.
     
    Uber-WOKE.See, we're talking about a film that depicts evil White racist cis-hets trying to slaughter a polyamorous, inter-racial family....

    http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/07/17/fantasia-2017-review-mohawk-is-something-different

    If Kate Beckinsale isn’t in it, I’m not going.

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  146. @Anon
    What you're seeing in medieval studies has a lot to do with the evolution of fantasy fiction since the 1970s. Ever since that time period, a lot of fantasy, (which has a much larger female readership than science fiction does), has created the trope of the kick-ass female warrior in medieval settings who trounces all the men in battle. We've had almost 40 years of these unrealistic Mary Sue heroines (look up Mary Sue if you don't know what that trope means), and these novels have given teenage girls a completely false sense of what the Middle Ages were like.

    Many of the authors of these novels have also made a point of including characters of color so they can be up-to-date and lecture their reader about racism--it's a big, fanatical deal in the SF & F world these days to prove what an SJW author you are. These COCs give female readers the impression that the Middle Ages were loaded with minorities just like multicultural America is today. Many young women living today have never known the mainly white America that existed pre-1970s. They've always lived in a culture that was extremely mixed because of our great immigrant influx, and this especially true if they live in big coastal US cities. If you walk the streets of any of these, you see POCs right and left. These young readers unconsciously assume it's always been like that. Many of these young women also grew up with the equal rights conferred on them by the rise of feminism since the 1970s, and they're not at all prepared to understand or able to accept that the past was different. They cannot escape their own ethnocentrism, though they'd blow a fuse if you told them that.

    But a few of these female readers love the medieval culture from these novels so much they take medieval studies in college, where they're utterly shocked to discover their subject matter is almost 100% white, and the women stayed home and stitched miles of tapestry instead of kicking ass in battle. Then the Jewish academics find out about Jewish expulsions from various medieval countries, and the SJW mind goes into an anguished tizzy. They wail and whine and sob over the destruction of their illusions, because they cannot accept that it's not as glamous as they thought. So they try to completely remake the entire period into the romantic dream image they created from their fantasy novels, an image that has no basis in reality. They don't like the message that women have feminism because white men gave it to them, and they don't like the message that POCs have Western Culture because white men gave it to them.

    Another problem is that female medieval scholars balk at learning anything about medieval politics. In making decisions, the average woman tends to focus more on a ruler's personality than on the logic behind his decisions. Politics is a bore to most women. Female medieval scholars would rather learn about butter-churning than actually pay attention to Henry VIII's policies regarding Francis I or whatever.

    There actually is quite a long list of women whose behavior and decisions were important in the medieval era like Emma of Normady, St. Margaret of Scotland, Empress Matilda, Eleanor of Aquitaine, Eleanor of Provence (her decisions profoundly destabilized the reign of her husband, Henry III), Isabella of France (the she-wolf who plotted against her husband, Edward II), Margaret of Anjou (the main leader of the one of the factions in the War of the Roses), Catherine of Aragon (without her there would be no Protestant England), Elizabeth I, Mary Queen of Scots, Bloody Mary (look what she did to the Protestants), Anne Boleyn (look what she did to the Catholics), Joan of Arc, Marie de Medici, Isabella of Spain, Madame de Maintenon, and I could go on and on.

    But the actual nuts and bolts of rulership? The female scholars don't want to know it. It's boring and distasteful to them. Part of the problem is that some of the women listed above were not nice people, and they f*cked up in a big way. It's not feminist to recognize that women can be evil or incompetent. So the female scholars daydream about the romance and chivalry and the sumptuous women's clothing and jewelry-wearing bits, and blanket-stitch their modern SJW world into this fantasy to make it complete.

    The rest of it? It's too icky.

    utterly shocked to discover their subject matter is almost 100% white, and the women stayed home and stitched miles of tapestry instead of kicking ass in battle.

    That’s also another effect of modernism. Healthy, married medieval women with a steady food supply could expect to be pregnant once every 2 years or so. Nursing offers about 1 year of natural contraception.

    Nursing and pregnancy are physically demanding activities and probably why the female half of the species cannot keep up physically with the male half. Women have to be capable of redirecting food/nourishment to the child. Nursing actually consumes more calories than pregnancy. I ate more than my husband when I was nursing.

    Marriage presented all the physical challenges a woman might want for a lifetime and I’m overlooking the dangers of childbirth. We moderns tend to over emphasize the dangers to women (childbirth appears to be mostly a bad idea for the infant) but obviously hemorrhage, etc was always an option with each and every birth.

    So yeah, sitting around doing tapestries sounds good. Medieval nun doesn’t sound half bad either.

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  147. @Olorin

    See, we’re talking about a film that depicts evil White racist cis-hets trying to slaughter a polyamorous, inter-racial family….
     
    That would be the Holy Family of the First Internationalist CathedraMosqGogue of the Sacred Intersectionality (aka Unitarian Universalism).

    But didn't the Christians beat them to that with the rabbi with superpowers whose carpenter dad was fooled by a gal whose mate was a pigeon sent by god to beget upon her himself whom he would later kill in order to rejoin himself?

    (Of course we all know that UUs are awful storytellers. They're the Kinko's Copy Centers of religious narrative.)

    I don't have a problem with religions forming around nonsense that tickles certain neural centers.

    What I have a problem with is when everyone is expected, upon pain of severe punishment and even death, to receive it as something other than nonsense that tickles certain neural centers.

    What I have a problem with is when some people think everyone should have the same tickle response.

    I mean, Zen koans are tickly nonsense as well, but I can't say I've known of many slaughters committed in their assertion.

    Which reminds me:

    The monk said to the master, "Master, what is the way?"

    The master replied, "An open-eyed man falling into the well."

    That's got so much Odin and Mimir in it, you don't even have to think it to get your US RDA of Eddic satori.

    But didn’t the Christians beat them to that with the rabbi with superpowers whose carpenter dad was fooled by a gal whose mate was a pigeon sent by god to beget upon her himself whom he would later kill in order to rejoin himself?

    No.

    The stupidity that is the rest of this post is why the West is in decline.

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  148. @whoever
    Are you really comparing Mayan architecture, which never made it past the corbelled arch, with Romanesque cathedrals with their semi-circular arches, never mind Gothic cathedrals with their ogival arches?

    Are you really comparing Mayan architecture, which never made it past the corbelled arch, with Romanesque cathedrals with their semi-circular arches, never mind Gothic cathedrals with their ogival arches?

    It’s the current year. All civilizations have to be equally awesome, even if they aren’t.

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  149. @Lurker

    My impression is that Dr. Who’s core audience is anglophone teenage girls
     
    This is the problem. We don't really know what the core audience is. I'm sure the BBC does and willfully ignores it nonetheless. At one time it would have certainly skewed toward boys but obviously the BBC is desperate to change that.

    This is the problem. We don’t really know what the core audience is (for Doctor Who). I’m sure the BBC does and willfully ignores it nonetheless. At one time it would have certainly skewed toward boys but obviously the BBC is desperate to change that.

    I was privileged enough to see the very first episode of Dr. Who in 1963. I was twelve years old, and I would say the target audience was, and probably still is, 11-year-old children, as it seemed a bit young for me, but OK for my sister.

    Of course I never gave a thought to the TV show being popular more than 50 years later. At the time, what we liked about it most was the eerie theme tune, one of the first well-known electronic tunes created by splicing tapes in the days before synthesizers.

    The other amusing notion was the blue police box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_box which was much larger inside than it appeared from the outside.

    The original sets were, or course, extremely cheap and rickety, as this was a cheaply made children’s program on black and white TV.

    The first show was on the same day, or the day after another less interesting event, the assassination of President John Kennedy. In school we studied a poem about Kennedy written by the Poet Laureate John Masefield writing about another John.

    All generous hearts lament the leader killed
    The young chief with the smile, the radiant face,
    The winning way that turned a wondrous race
    Into sublimer pathways, leading on.

    Grant to us life that though the man be gone
    The promise of his spirit be fulfilled.

    However, Dr. Who was rather more interesting than the death of this young chief, even though he did not get a poem. Where was America, anyway?

    The original villains were the Daleks, who went around like pest contractors chanting “exterminate, exterminate.” Every child had a Dalek outfit for Christmas–cheap crap really, but plastic was a luxury in those days– and was practiced in the art of the Dalek chant.

    I tried to exterminate my sisters, but without success, and half a century later, they are still around.

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    And the original Doctor, William Hartnell, was played as a fiftysomething with long white hair, the archetype of the eccentric professor. I wonder how many of the subsequent scriptwriters were ex-English teachers, because the Doctor archetype ever since has been hipster English teacher.

    (Not realised how very Jewish the Doctor's creation was - Eric Maschwitz asking for ideas for new science-fiction series, Sidney Newman looking for same to fill the five-to-six Saturday slot, Verity Lambert as producer. The writers were Brits though.)
  150. Medieval studies is too Eurocentric. Much like biology is too life-centric, philosophy too thought-centric, medicine too health-centric, geology too rock-centric. I mean, seriously, why aren’t more geologists worried about gender theory?

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  151. @Anon
    Didn’t you see Steve’s recent post about DNA tests on mummies revealing they were more closely related to modern-day Europeans than to modern-day Egyptians?

    They were more caucasoid than current ones, but they still had considerable African mixture.
    If you look lots of Egyptian art from that period, there are noticeable African features.
    Also, those mummies were of elites. Egypt has lots of slaves from black south.

    If you do testing of DNA of US elites, it will be pretty white too.

    North Africans and Near Easterners were noticeably different from Europeans.

    And Rome also brought in blacks. It's like in Spartacus where Kirk Douglas nearly got stepped on like a bug by Strode.

    And Rome also brought in blacks. It’s like in Spartacus where Kirk Douglas nearly got stepped on like a bug by Strode.

    I’m not quite sure Spartacus was actually a documentary.

    Much as I enjoyed the movie, I found the book awful. It was written by Howard Fast in his late-stage commie era. Publishers gave it a pass, so he self-published. The implication was that Spartacus was too proudly marxist. I think the real problem was that is was stupefyingly dull.

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  152. @Charlotte Allen
    More like a couple of hundred years, with a lot of overlap. Machu Picchu dates from the 15th century. It's an entire complex. Romanesque cathedrals began to be built during the 9th century, Gothic cathedrals during the 12th. The Classic Mayan period--when the pyramids at Tikal were built--lasted from about 450 to about 900 A.D. So the last Gothic cathedrals were built around the same time as Machu Picchu. The Classic Mayan period was drawing to a close as the first Romanesque cathedrals were being built.

    Charlotte, I am not going to argue with you here at Steve’s Bar and Grille, but Machu Picchu dates according to what I have read to 1540s and the first of the grand cathedral to as early as 500 AD. Soaring arches, vaulted naves, stained glass windows, flying buttresses, spires and bell towers, bronze doors and three dimensional sculptures versus stone pyramids. And, many of those architecturally splendid edifices are still functional.

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    Hi; I'm not quite sure what you mean by the first of the grand cathedrals-- maybe the first still standing? There seem to have been purpose-built churches even during the time of persecution, and Constantine went absolutely crazy on construction.

    I think Charlotte is probably talking about the Gothic specifically for some reason. Flying buttresses in particular, and the light, soaring construction they made possible did not come about till the High Middle Ages, but I think all the other stuff you mentioned was probably around much earlier. Even the Pantheon is still a beautiful and functional building.

    On the other hand if Machu Picchu had been continuously inhabited it might be functional too.
  153. The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory….

    They’ll never say “cultural marxism” will they? So critical theory is a precept rather than a concept?

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  154. @Ivy
    Gresham's University. That may be where academia is headed, as the bad ideas drive out the good. In the increasing virtualization of everything, how long can arcane and abstruse matters and their professors last, and the latter maintain their sinecures? At some point, younger scholars would seem to want their own path to knowledge that is not so full of potholes, detours and other impediments. No amount of rock-climbing walls or other enticements may overcome the stark realization of non-dischargeable debt incurred for no appreciable income. Some thinning and redistribution of the colleges appears imminent.

    Dr Jordan Peterson of the University of Toronto is thinking along just these same lines. Have a listen to his plans for an online replacement for the unsalvageable mess that is modern academia. He lays his ideas out when answering a question at the end of his recent lecture “Biblical Series VI: The Psychology of the Flood” now available over at YouTube. His answer starts at 2:11:45 .

    It’s darkly funny that a tenured prof at U of T has to go to such lengths to bypass people like “Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies” in order to get the humanities out to the rest of us. Quite an academic elite we’ve got now, eh? It’s like an airport being so mismanaged that pilots have to organize a bus service in the parking lot to get their passengers safely to another airport to continue their journey.

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    Thanks for the lead, and I'm looking forward to starting out with that YouTube video.
  155. @Old Palo Altan
    "These people"? The people quoted by Steve are all women. Do you refer to that?

    Whether you do or not I find that I do, and increasingly.

    Their purely emotional approach to absolutely everything precludes them from playing a useful role in anything other than ... what is that refrain I hear?:

    Kinder, Küche, Kirche.

    And only going to church, certainly not saying anything once within one. Prayers excepted of course.

    By “these people” I mean the people who aren’t straight, White, Gentile men and define themselves in opposition to same.

    You’re right about women, sadly. Not even the most embittered satirist with a misogynist streak a mile wide could have predicted how badly women have been acting in just the last few years.

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    The fact that Progs have lagged in their ‘justice’ outrage over the Middle Ages goes to show they are elitist through and through.

    Of course, the Middle Ages are less prestigious than Classical Period and Renaissance(and rise of Modernity). Middle Ages have long been seen as either relatively static or a transitional period before the rebirth of civilization. So, there was the glory of Ancient Greece/Rome. It was lost and then there was the drabby and gloomy Middle Ages.. and there was Neo-Classical Glory with radiant Renaissance and soon, the birth of the Modern.

    So, elitist progs have focused more on Classics and Moderns than on Middles.
    And indeed, they may have continued to overlook it if not for so-called Alt Right’s interest.
    (It’s like a kid who plays with only two toys out of three. He shows no interest in the third toy… except when another kid tries to play with it. The kid says, ‘that is mine too!’)
    They seem to be reacting to Alt Right’s interest in it than showing real enthusiasm.

    Naturally, the Middle Ages were more essentially European. Classical Period actually brought Greece closer to Near East and North Africa than to Northern Europe. An average Greek back then had more respect for Egyptians and Persians than for Northern Europeans who were seen as barbaric and backward. Indeed, Europeans in northern regions were often turned into slaves by Greeks. Good thing too, as it’s better to enslave whites than blacks. US sure would be in much better shape had it enslaved Russians or Irish than black Africans.
    Anyway, Classical Greece was linked more with non-West than with what is now the Core West of Northern Europe. And the rise of modernity meant world empire, and this once again brought Europe closer to the non-West… though this was spearheaded by Western Europe of Spain, Portugal, Dutch, English, and French than by Greeks and Italians, the great empire-builders of the Classical Age. (Even though Anglos, Dutch, Spanish, French, Germans, Russians, and etc had more in common with each other as fellow Europeans, their empires created alternative ‘world identities’: Anglophone, Franco-culture, Russosphere, Hispaniola, etc. So, Europeans developed a dual consciousness. Was a British white closer to non-whites in the British Empire or with fellow whites in France or Germany? Was a Russian white closer to Tartars and Muslims in Russian Empire or with Germans or Poles? Was a French imperialist who spread French Civilization closer to a black African who spoke French and ate Croissants or to a white German who spoke German and ate sauerkraut? Was a white Spanish closer to non-white Catholic subjects who spoke Spanish in Latin America or to an Irishman who spoke English/Gaelic and ate 30 kinds of potatoes? This dual identity-mentality continues to haunt Europe. It is a legacy of imperialism. And it affects not only imperialist peoples but subject peoples. Irish today are just like Brits with their multi-culti-mania. Their minds, senses, lands, and wombs are being colonized by same forces of globalism.)

    Classical Period makes for interesting ideas on race and culture. Surely, the ancient Greeks were culturally more comparable to Egyptians and Persians in achievement(and trade and communication) than with Northern European boors. But they were racially closer to Europeans. In the end, it seems race won out over culture. Same with Japan. It was faster to modernize and westernize than other parts of Asia. But Japanese are still more Asian than Western. Race wins out… though globalism may well change this and Afro-Homo-ize the entire world.

    Anyway, the Middle Ages were less imperialist, so it was more about the essential European core. Though Germanic barbarians ventured into North Africa and parts of Near East after sacking Rome, they never built any lasting empire. Also, if anything, they soon got invaded by North Africans who took over Spain for a long spell. So, most of Middle Ages was about the European Core trying to revive and survive. It is more White because most Europeans looked inward at this time.
    In contrast, Classical Period was about Southern/Southeastern Europe trying to conquer the world, and the Modern Period was about Western/Northern Europe trying to conquer the world.

    Anyway, the eagerness to ‘universalize’ Western Civilization goes to show how elitist the progs really are. After all, why this obsession with the West? Because it is the best and the most prestigious. So, even non-whites want to claim it as their own. I mean, who cares about Kazakhi, Burmese, or Madagascarian culture? Who wants to claim it?
    If Progs were true egalitarians who believe all cultures are equally valuable, they should stress how each culture is precious too. Instead, they promote Classical/Western culture as the greatest and then try to overcome the intrinsic cultural-supremacism-and-hierarchy by claiming that Western Classical Culture isn’t ‘western’ but a world culture that equally belongs to all.

    This is what’s galling about immigration too. On the one hand, it is sold as a movement against white supremacy. But if all peoples and cultures are equal, why are non-whites eager to leave their own nations/peoples/cultures and move to white nations/peoples/cultures? They must feel that Hu-White is better. Whether one is a white, black, Indian, or Asian in Brazil, he wants to move to whiter nations, not darker nations. So, immigration patterns are ‘white supremacist’. But it would be embarrassing to admit, so the narrative says ‘white nations’ are not white. They are ‘world nations’ and belong to all. So, we must pretend that non-whites aren’t moving to white nations but to global nations that were always ‘nation of immigrants’ as UK is now formulated.

    But that isn’t enough. With this Narrative War, we have temporal immigration or historical immigration. Non-whites are encouraged to temporally-immigrate to white historical periods and claim them as their own.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTsFx6WwHig

    So, a modern Hindu woman is encouraged to pretend that her ilk was part of the West long ago.
    This is seen as ‘anti-racist’. But then, aren’t non-whites being encouraged to abandon their true identity and prefer the ‘larping’ identity of playing quasi-Europeans? ‘Inclusion’ means erasure of non-white identity among non-whites who are encouraged to pretend that their ancestors were vikings or Celts or etc. How retarded.

    In TIME BANDITS, temporal migration was a joke. Now, it’s an academic endeavor.
    Bill and Ted were ahead of their time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=167IhlXnN2Y

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  157. @Ivy
    Gresham's University. That may be where academia is headed, as the bad ideas drive out the good. In the increasing virtualization of everything, how long can arcane and abstruse matters and their professors last, and the latter maintain their sinecures? At some point, younger scholars would seem to want their own path to knowledge that is not so full of potholes, detours and other impediments. No amount of rock-climbing walls or other enticements may overcome the stark realization of non-dischargeable debt incurred for no appreciable income. Some thinning and redistribution of the colleges appears imminent.

    No amount of rock-climbing walls or other enticements may overcome the stark realization of non-dischargeable debt incurred for no appreciable income. Some thinning and redistribution of the colleges appears imminent.

    Already planning to send son to community college, then a state u for programming/engineering type degree.

    Eldest daughter may only get an associates degree, and try to set her up in a small business if she doesn’t marry, even though she’s capable of a BA or more. To be clear, she doesn’t have any attractions for a particular career, so it’s not like we’re denying something. We’re just trying not to do the “I don’t what to do, so get a BA/MA thing”.

    I can’t advise either one of them to take on the debt or the propaganda schools. What a waste on so many levels.

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  158. @Jonathan Mason

    This is the problem. We don’t really know what the core audience is (for Doctor Who). I’m sure the BBC does and willfully ignores it nonetheless. At one time it would have certainly skewed toward boys but obviously the BBC is desperate to change that.
     
    I was privileged enough to see the very first episode of Dr. Who in 1963. I was twelve years old, and I would say the target audience was, and probably still is, 11-year-old children, as it seemed a bit young for me, but OK for my sister.

    Of course I never gave a thought to the TV show being popular more than 50 years later. At the time, what we liked about it most was the eerie theme tune, one of the first well-known electronic tunes created by splicing tapes in the days before synthesizers.

    The other amusing notion was the blue police box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_box which was much larger inside than it appeared from the outside.

    The original sets were, or course, extremely cheap and rickety, as this was a cheaply made children's program on black and white TV.

    The first show was on the same day, or the day after another less interesting event, the assassination of President John Kennedy. In school we studied a poem about Kennedy written by the Poet Laureate John Masefield writing about another John.

    All generous hearts lament the leader killed
    The young chief with the smile, the radiant face,
    The winning way that turned a wondrous race
    Into sublimer pathways, leading on.

    Grant to us life that though the man be gone
    The promise of his spirit be fulfilled.

    However, Dr. Who was rather more interesting than the death of this young chief, even though he did not get a poem. Where was America, anyway?

    The original villains were the Daleks, who went around like pest contractors chanting "exterminate, exterminate." Every child had a Dalek outfit for Christmas--cheap crap really, but plastic was a luxury in those days-- and was practiced in the art of the Dalek chant.

    I tried to exterminate my sisters, but without success, and half a century later, they are still around.

    And the original Doctor, William Hartnell, was played as a fiftysomething with long white hair, the archetype of the eccentric professor. I wonder how many of the subsequent scriptwriters were ex-English teachers, because the Doctor archetype ever since has been hipster English teacher.

    (Not realised how very Jewish the Doctor’s creation was – Eric Maschwitz asking for ideas for new science-fiction series, Sidney Newman looking for same to fill the five-to-six Saturday slot, Verity Lambert as producer. The writers were Brits though.)

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    And the original Doctor, William Hartnell, was played as a fiftysomething with long white hair, the archetype of the eccentric professor. I wonder how many of the subsequent scriptwriters were ex-English teachers, because the Doctor archetype ever since has been hipster English teacher.

    I'm not seeing that at all. Seen little or nothing of the post-1989 oeuvre. The six actors succeeding Hartnell were distinguished by dress, grooming, manners, and personality from Hartnell and from each other, but I'm not seeing 'English teacher' when I'm looking at most of them. Hartnell was an irascible old man, Troughton an excitable middle-aged man; Pertwee an older man alternately absent-minded, debonair, amiable, anxious, and paternal; Davison a younger man pleasant and colorless. Tom Baker's doctor might be the sort of English teacher who seduces his students, Colin Baker a moody and short-tempered coffee house musician, and Sylvester McCoy a gay community theatre manager. The writing got so bad during the McCoy era that cancelling the show was a mercy killing.

  159. @Cagey Beast
    Dr Jordan Peterson of the University of Toronto is thinking along just these same lines. Have a listen to his plans for an online replacement for the unsalvageable mess that is modern academia. He lays his ideas out when answering a question at the end of his recent lecture "Biblical Series VI: The Psychology of the Flood" now available over at YouTube. His answer starts at 2:11:45 .

    It's darkly funny that a tenured prof at U of T has to go to such lengths to bypass people like "Suzanne Akbari, director of the University of Toronto’s Centre for Medieval Studies" in order to get the humanities out to the rest of us. Quite an academic elite we've got now, eh? It's like an airport being so mismanaged that pilots have to organize a bus service in the parking lot to get their passengers safely to another airport to continue their journey.

    Thanks for the lead, and I’m looking forward to starting out with that YouTube video.

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  160. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Buffalo Joe
    newrouter, the article written by a woman mentions misogyny as it quotes three women academics.

    newrouter, the article written by a woman mentions misogyny as it quotes three women academics.

    Yes, I noticed that. What a nice, unbiased article.

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  161. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    This trans-historicism may be kinda fun.

    Yeah, who’s to say Medieval history is European or white?

    History is fluid or transhistorical.

    So, if Medieval isn’t European, then nothing is anything.

    So, let’s have some Chinese guy as Shaka Zulu. If Chinese want to grab parts of Africa, they should make movies for African audiences showing some Chinese guy as tribal chieftain of all Africa. And if Africans object, why those bunch of black ‘racists’!

    And who’s to say Atlantic Slave Trade was about black slaves? Let’s make the ship crew black and let’s make the slaves white.

    And MLK was a homosexual Muslim cuz I say so.

    In our age, Christianity is about homo-worship. Yes, Jesus died on the Cross thinking of homo ‘sexual’ practices and trannies.
    So, anything is anything, anything is nothing, nothing is anything, nothing is nothing.

    To be sure, it’s a bit strange, this PC stuff.

    Blacks bitch about how whites depicted them as savages in the past, but their idea of black pride is to sing ganster rap and call women ‘biatches’.

    Homos bitch about how straights depicted them as vain flaming perverts, but their corrective is to put on massive homo parades where homos act narcissistic, degenerate, and queenie-meanie.

    Feminists bitch about how patriarchy used to portray women as easily given to hysteria, but their idea of a ‘strong woman’ is one who throws fits all the time and fever-dreams fraternity rapes on broken glass.

    Still…. transhistoricism is the future. Hamilton was a Negro, so Frederick Douglas was an Irishman.

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  162. @Anon
    “We don’t have any gays. If there are any, take them to Canada.”

    Homos are one people you can't exile or eradicate.

    If you get rid of all Armenians, they are no more.

    But if you get rid of all homos, new ones will be born... even in an arch-anti-homo family.

    Homo-ness is not an identity but a condition. It's like some kids are born deaf, blind, or with 6 fingers.

    “Homo-ness is not an identity but a condition.”

    Very possibly, not a “condition.”

    Sexuality and Gender, Findings from the Biological, Psychological, and Social Sciences

    Lawrence S. Mayer, Paul R. McHugh

    Some key findings:

    The understanding of sexual orientation as an innate, biologically fixed property of human beings — the idea that people are “born that way” — is not supported by scientific evidence.

    While there is evidence that biological factors such as genes and hormones are associated with sexual behaviors and attractions, there are no compelling causal biological explanations for human sexual orientation. While minor differences in the brain structures and brain activity between homosexual and heterosexual individuals have been identified by researchers, such neurobiological findings do not demonstrate whether these differences are innate or are the result of environmental and psychological factors.

    Some of the most widely held views about sexual orientation, such as the “born that way” hypothesis, simply are not supported by science. The literature in this area does describe a small ensemble of biological differences between non-heterosexuals and heterosexuals, but those biological differences are not sufficient to predict sexual orientation, the ultimate test of any scientific finding. The strongest statement that science offers to explain sexual orientation is that some biological factors appear, to an unknown extent, to predispose some individuals to a non-heterosexual orientation.

    Full study at:

    http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/number-50-fall-2016

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  163. @guest
    I took two "diversity" courses, as I recall. One was called Race in America, or something. Which started out refreshingly saying everyone has always been racist. Or everyone is possessed of an attitude of Us versus Them, as the class may have put it. Which I interpreted as meaning everybody's racist.

    However, soon we were informed that Whitey was the only group to come up with Scientific Racism, or pseudo-scientific racism to be more precise. You know, the thing that was once and forever blown up by Saint Boas. Plus, in the near past white people won against other peoples. And you can't really be racist of you aren't lording it over someone. (To be clear, Whitey has been declared de jure Illegitimate Overlord for all time. Even if white people fall from power never to recover, they will still be deemed to be in power.)

    For these reasons, it was okay to have a whole class on how wrong white people are to be racist, even though everyone is.

    The other was a giant auditorium class, where a lecturer does Power Point to like 150 adult-children three times a week, then a graduate student proctors tests on the textbook the lecturer never referenced. It was on Criminal Justice, and I wasn't sure why that counted towards "diversity," except that the "diverse" commit more crimes. There was a lot about racism, for instance an entire day on how the Chicago P.D. assassinated Black Panther Fred Hampton.

    Mostly, it was a hodge-podge of leftist law and orderism. They're all little J. Edgar Hoovers when it comes to their pet crimes, assuming cishet-het-males are the perpetrators. Like rape, child abuse, woman abuse, gay bashing, etc.

    Eventually, the lecturer digressed deep into Native American history, and as he described basket weaving I had an out-of-body experience. "Where am I? What am I doing with my life?"

    In such situations, you may ask yourself:

    Well, how did I get here? How do I work this? Where is that large automobile? What is that beautiful house? Where does that highway go to? Am I right? Am I wrong?

    And you may tell yourself “This is not my beautiful house!” And you may tell yourself “This is not my beautiful wife!”

    And you may say to yourself “My God! What have I done?

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  164. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Egypt didn't intermix with their slaves from Nubia. North Africans and Near Easterners were (and still pretty much are) caucasian.

    Funny how everyone today claims that, and yet, no DNA of modern Italy shows up as containing a significant sub-Saharan black admixture. Romans were pretty much white, even 2,000yrs ago.

    Must be racism, it just MUST be.

    Is this what they're teaching in school nowadays, that the Romans were black? Or that their slaves were black? Guess it makes sense to some, say the world "slaves" and everyone automatically assumes sub-Saharan Africans.

    "What color is the sky in your world?"--Cheers

    Coptic Christians have about 10% East African admixture while being endogamous.

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  165. @Mark Caplan
    The Middle Ages were Turk-supremacist. Chritians and Christianity barely survived to make the glorious comeback we're all so proud of.

    The Moors were not Turks. They were Maghrebis.

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  166. @Altai
    This can be attributed to the near total feminisation of the academic worlds of the humanities, the more obscure the more feminised. We can argue if this is the result of simply different interests and I would say that the initial disparity was like that, but no guy, even a nice leftist one, enjoys being around angry bullies he implicitly knows hate him. The difference is one of them will talk about it and one won't, but both of them see it, the aggression and angers radiates from them.

    Of course, it wasn't ordinary women who were doing this, it was women who, for whatever reason, weren't romantically very successful. Everytime I see a story involving somebody who is a medieval literature PhD that's taken it all the way to become an academic it's an overweight, tattooed, neon haired woman, everytime! Never a man.

    I always laugh at feminists complaining about the hostile environment for women created by a too high concentration of men, preferably the kind of men who are receptive to such critiques, (IE, exactly the ones such critiques are the most baseless against.) when they inevitably create environments that denigrates men in a casual fashion and which treat them as some occupying force which must be resisted.

    An example of this effect is the new Doctor Who. I didn't know that the producer set out from the start to court a more female audience. It was subtle at first and then took a giant leap in recent years, (I haven't even watched it in about 8 or 7 years, but just from osmosis I was aware of the new direction and pandering) likely as our medievalists became the most vocal and demanding segment of the audience. Look at the people who present the official BBC Doctor Who fan show. They're not what people thought of as Doctor Who fans 10 years ago. Now a female Doctor cements the influence of this segment of the fanbase. Be interesting to see if it works or if it alienates young women who enjoyed a young male doctor (Apparently men tended to like Capaldi, young women did not!) along with male viewers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWLrgmOECbw

    Do they really believe making The Doctor a girl is going to make it more appealing to women?

    Women who watch Doctor Who do it for the hot men who they pretend they’re dating, be it through fanfiction or living vicariously through the Doctor’s Assistants.

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  167. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Buffalo Joe
    Charlotte, I am not going to argue with you here at Steve's Bar and Grille, but Machu Picchu dates according to what I have read to 1540s and the first of the grand cathedral to as early as 500 AD. Soaring arches, vaulted naves, stained glass windows, flying buttresses, spires and bell towers, bronze doors and three dimensional sculptures versus stone pyramids. And, many of those architecturally splendid edifices are still functional.

    Hi; I’m not quite sure what you mean by the first of the grand cathedrals– maybe the first still standing? There seem to have been purpose-built churches even during the time of persecution, and Constantine went absolutely crazy on construction.

    I think Charlotte is probably talking about the Gothic specifically for some reason. Flying buttresses in particular, and the light, soaring construction they made possible did not come about till the High Middle Ages, but I think all the other stuff you mentioned was probably around much earlier. Even the Pantheon is still a beautiful and functional building.

    On the other hand if Machu Picchu had been continuously inhabited it might be functional too.

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  168. OT but still about Europe, here’s a study tackling the Mesolithic:

    http://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/07/17/164400

    On blue eyes:

    Such results suggest that the blue eye-color allele is rather old. Using an ABC modeling
    approach Nakagome et al. (186), predicted that the light-pigmentation allele at rs12913832
    emerged around 42,000 years ago or earlier; a date close in time to the initial peopling of Europe.
    A plausible scenario of the origin of the blue-eye mutation that reconciles our results with
    findings from other studies is one where this variant appeared in an ancestral population before
    the ancestors of the WHG migrated from Near East into West and Central Europe.

    The large effect light-skin alleles at rs16891982 and rs1426654 were present in SHG, EHG,
    CHG and EEF but absent in WHG and PEHG. Similarly, the C11 haplotype is present in hunter-
    gatherers (SHG, EHG and CHG but not WHG and PEHG) throughout Europe, as well as in at
    least two early farmers. This pattern is consistent with reports that the rs1426654 derived allele
    arose ~22,000-28,000 years ago (186, 187), and that the light-pigmentation allele at rs16891982
    arose only once in Eurasians (186, 188). A possible geographical origin for these two major
    light-skin alleles is West Asia or the Near East (189). Later migrations across the Caucasus
    (CHG) and Eastern Europe would have brought it to Scandinavia, while EEF migrations
    introduced both alleles into central Europe

    This is interesting. Anybody consider checking on the looks of endogamous or isolated MENAs like Berbers, Jews, etc. to see how dark they are against their neighbors?

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  169. is this post a joke? If it is not, why bother wasting time on losers?….probably, tenured losers. I want all professors stripped of their tenure, perks and parking spaces from 2017 August, gone; until forever. I want these professors to experience “income inequality and substandard housing at the ground level,” before they start yacking at students in autumn. Own it.

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  170. FTA:

    “There are so many regions that are just begging for at least one scholar to once, in the eternity of humanity, to look at it. There’s a lot of work to do.”

    The entire premise of this article is that no one is studying “medieval era” history outside Europe. Which is ridiculous. Medievalists by definition focus on Western Europe; that’s what the field is about. If you want to study the history of Nubia, the Silk Road, Classical Mayans, China, or the Near East, you go into history or any number of related fields.

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  171. Meanwhile, an example of a “deplorable” medievalist:

    https://divinity.uchicago.edu/sightings/why-milo-scares-students-and-faculty-even-more

    http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/12/01/establishment-conservatives-guide-to-milo/

    And the response:

    https://www.chicagomaroon.com/article/2017/5/12/divinity-school-students-call-inclusive-environmen/

    https://divinity.uchicago.edu/sightings/packet-rachel-fulton-brown

    https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/05/17/u-chicago-divinity-school-students-call-for-curtailing-free-speech/

    The woke students’ response, as quoted and criticized by old-fashioned atheist secular liberal Jerry Coyne:

    Her praise for Yiannopoulos amplifies his antipathy to trans students and has welcomed threatening anti-trans flyering on our campus by white nationalists…Unwittingly or otherwise, the publication of Fulton Brown’s article has provided a platform for the proliferation and mobilization of white supremacy, nativism, and patriarchal chauvinism….Various interested parties have made public displays defending this kind of speech by resorting to arguments for “freedom of expression.” We find this line of reasoning disingenuous….Freedom of expression cannot exist without freedom of subjects. Freedom of subjects requires a prior commitment to protecting the physical, emotional, and intellectual security of all people, especially those most concretely and historically threatened: people of color, LGBTQ+, trans, gender non-conforming people, immigrants, undocumented people, women, religious minorities, and people with disabilities.

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  172. @YetAnotherAnon
    And the original Doctor, William Hartnell, was played as a fiftysomething with long white hair, the archetype of the eccentric professor. I wonder how many of the subsequent scriptwriters were ex-English teachers, because the Doctor archetype ever since has been hipster English teacher.

    (Not realised how very Jewish the Doctor's creation was - Eric Maschwitz asking for ideas for new science-fiction series, Sidney Newman looking for same to fill the five-to-six Saturday slot, Verity Lambert as producer. The writers were Brits though.)

    And the original Doctor, William Hartnell, was played as a fiftysomething with long white hair, the archetype of the eccentric professor. I wonder how many of the subsequent scriptwriters were ex-English teachers, because the Doctor archetype ever since has been hipster English teacher.

    I’m not seeing that at all. Seen little or nothing of the post-1989 oeuvre. The six actors succeeding Hartnell were distinguished by dress, grooming, manners, and personality from Hartnell and from each other, but I’m not seeing ‘English teacher’ when I’m looking at most of them. Hartnell was an irascible old man, Troughton an excitable middle-aged man; Pertwee an older man alternately absent-minded, debonair, amiable, anxious, and paternal; Davison a younger man pleasant and colorless. Tom Baker’s doctor might be the sort of English teacher who seduces his students, Colin Baker a moody and short-tempered coffee house musician, and Sylvester McCoy a gay community theatre manager. The writing got so bad during the McCoy era that cancelling the show was a mercy killing.

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  173. @black sea
    A couple of points about the Washington Post article. First, this quote:

    “Academics and scholars must be mindful about using research done by only straight, white men . . . ."
     
    How exactly are academics supposed to keep track of the racial and ethnic identities and sexual preferences or gender self-definitions of those whose work they cite? By looking at the author's name, you can generally tell whether the person is male or female, but beyond that, it's either a matter of knowing the individual personally, or conducting some sort of creepy research on them. I suppose that the preferred answer is that the non-white, non-cisgendered authors will make these facts known in their published work.

    Also:

    …research done by white men are relied upon more heavily than those done by experts from other backgrounds…

    …Work done by women and other minorities have often been overlooked by their peers,

     

    Here are two easily identified subject-verb agreement errors. When you can't keep track of whether the subjects of your sentences are singular or plural, in what way are you qualified to write for a living, much less lecture your readers on how to think and learn?

    Finally, can't Jeff Bezos cough up enough money for some decent copy editors, especially since the NY Times is laying them off at the moment?

    Also the subject-verb disagreement in the very first quoted sentence:

    “… The criticisms of the conference’s diversity stems from problems in medieval studies for decades”

    But rules of grammar are just an oppressive tool of the patriarchy, so whatevs.

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  174. @Broski
    The appropriately named Ms. Fagin Davis:

    https://www.simmons.edu/Faculty/Lisa-Davis

    I'm surprised the name has survived a century and a-half post Dickens.

    Simmons College is a vagina-centric school hard by Fenway Park. If this twit was going to come from somewhere, Simmons would be at the top of the list.

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  175. @the Supreme Gentleman

    “The field has been rather proud of its resistance to critical theory, which then just attracts even more people to the field who themselves want to be resistant to theory and see medieval studies as a safe place — a safe place to be elitist, a safe place to be white, a safe place to be Christian, Eurocentric, misogynist, etc.,” Ms. Joy says.
     
    This is really a remarkable quote when you stop to think about it. It's not just the common, factually tenuous, but at least hypothetically understandable, charge that stale pale white males are disadvantaging minorities, and so we need some equality increasing measure to rectify things. It's an open admission that the very idea of anyone, anywhere feeling comfortable as a proud European Christian is what WOKE scholars should be fighting against.

    Obviously, in a rational world, taxpayer money would be subsidizing academics who value and preserve our heritage, not ones who devalue and destroy it.

    In a rational world, taxpayer money wouldn’t be subsidizing ANY academics, regardless of their opinions or positions.

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  176. @Anon
    Forgive my naivete, but isn’t medievalism defined solely in terms of Europe’s history?

    Right. It only makes sense within the context of European history, and not even all of Europe. For instance, there was no Middle Ages for Greek Byzantines since they didn't undergo Fall of Rome, Dark Ages, and then Middle Ages before Rise of Renaissance. Something akin to Fall of Rome happened to Constantinople much later with the Turkish invasion.

    Also, Renaissance only makes sense within European history, or more specifically Western European history. Southeastern Europe did not lose Classical Civilization which continued there. And Renaissance barely touched Russia.

    It's like what is particular to Japan isn't meaningless to China.

    But Renaissance is basic to the history of Central
    Europe. For example, the first university in Poland
    was established in Cracow in 1364, only a few decades after
    Oxford and Cambridge. Copernicus studied there in the
    late 1400s. Similarly for Prague

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  177. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Reason 19,743 to defund universities. That result of medieval studies speaks directly to the stupidity of the academic world.

    To H3LL with them

    State universities (but not private so far) are
    slowly being defunded. We keep hearing about
    the hiring freeze and early retirements at the universities
    in Missouri but the phenomenon is not limited to Missouri.
    State universities are becoming more private than public -
    only 30-40% of their budget comes from the taxpayers.
    There simply won’t be enough money to fund Women’s Studies,
    Black Studies, etc

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