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On Twitter, pundits discuss the ultimate logic of the Trump Problem:

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By the way, the “Murder in the Cathedral” in Canterbury in 1170 of Archbishop Thomas Becket is perhaps the classic example of the Deep State vs. Peak State dichotomy I identified in considering who was behind Pakistan hosting Osama bin Laden.

From Wikipedia:

… Becket continued to excommunicate his opponents in the church, the news of which also reached [King] Henry II.

Upon hearing reports of Becket’s actions, Henry is said to have uttered words that were interpreted by his men as wishing Becket killed.[10] The king’s exact words are in doubt and several versions have been reported.[11] The most commonly quoted, as handed down by oral tradition, is “Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?”,[12] but according to historian Simon Schama this is incorrect: he accepts the account of the contemporary biographer Edward Grim, writing in Latin, who gives us “What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?”[13] Many variations have found their way into popular culture.

Whatever Henry said, it was interpreted as a royal command, and four knights,[10] Reginald fitzUrse, Hugh de Morville, William de Tracy, and Richard le Breton,[1] set out to confront the Archbishop of Canterbury.

The Deep State theory is that the official ranks of government often don’t coincide with real power: there are shadowy old-timers from the security services around who exert power as well. So if Osama bin Laden started living a mile from the Pakistani military academy in 2005, it may have just been with the permission of lower level members of the Pakistani Deep State, rather than upon the decision of military dictator/President Pervez Musharraf.

In the Deep State interpretation of the assassination of Becket, “Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?” wasn’t an order, it was just a cry of temporary frustration by King Henry II that gets overly literally interpreted by the four knights. (I haven’t read T.S. Eliot’s “Murder in the Cathedral” since college, but I vaguely recall the play leaning toward the Deep State view, although Eliot’s very talky play airs just about every conceivable angle.)

My Peak State variant on the Deep State theory is, well, sure, that can happen, but a lot of the time the guy who spent his life clawing his way to the top of the official hierarchy of power didn’t do it just to let a bunch of lower level tough guys call the shots about who lives and who dies. The power behind the throne often turns out to be the guy on the throne.

In the 1964 movie Becket in the video above, King Henry II (Peter O’Toole) appears to be engaging in Peak State behavior.

On the other hand, there really are cases of political violence that stem not from the order of the Top Guy but from the climate of opinion. For example, in 2002 the Dutch candidate for prime minister on an immigration restrictionist platform, Pim Fortuyn, was assassinated by a leftist legal worker, Volkert van der Graaf, the day after the French election in which Chirac defeated Le Pen 84-16.

The preceding two weeks had seen a frenzy of “responsible” figures across Europe denouncing the danger imposed by immigration restrictionist politicians, so it was hardly surprising when Fortuyn was murdered the next day. Initial reaction from many respectable newspapers and politicians was that the dead man had it coming. The explanation later morphed into claiming that the well-educated assassin was some kind of animal rights nut, but at his trial the murderer calmly listed his priorities behind his violence: protecting Muslim migrants was number one.

 

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  1. Ah, how gratifying it is to see and hear the Indiscreet Smarm Of The Bourgeoisie.

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  2. Well if people like Fallows didn’t make it so hard for nationalists to gain power, we would have a more genteel and diplomatic nationalist to support.

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  3. The serfs, ah “primary voters”, are revolting:

    http://www.auburn.edu/chaucer/peasants_revolt.html

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  4. “Fundamental transformation” might result in a backlash? Who knew?!

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  5. James Fallows started as a speechwriter for Jimmy Carter. He wrote later about how easy it would be to edit a major news magazine, but crashed and burned when given the chance at US News and World Report. He is not stupid, but he has been Wrong with a capital W about almost everything for a long time.

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  6. Steve, unlike the Dutch the people of the Trump movement are a bit more heavily armed. I’m sure the response to what the Establishment (of both parties) is suggesting would not be as peaceful.

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  7. Only 5 percent chance for Trump to win? Wow, those guys really are in a bubble.

    I’m not a Trump guy, but I have to admit that it’s hilariously entertaining to watch how he trips up the left. He’s just so far outside their frame of reference that they don’t know what to do. A Trump/Sanders or a Trump/Hillary debate would be one of the best things ever.

    There’s a guy who sounds like Trump sitting on a barstool at every watering hole in America, but these clowns are just now finding that out. It must be like a Twilight Zone episode to them. One day they accidentally peek behind the curtains and discover they’re not on Earth — this whole time they’ve been living on Planet Zorbotron B-5 in the Crab Nebula.

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  8. George Wallace was assassinated right before his victories in the Michigan and Maryland Democratic primaries. This proved Wallace was no longer a ‘regional’ candidate but one who could win in large northern industrial states, a nightmare scenario for the DNC that could only be stopped by a gunman,

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  9. People really need to check out how completely ass-over-teakettle the National Review Online is right now. “It’s time for an anti-Trump Manhattan Project” is just one of many similar headlines over there.

    Now is the time to throw everything at Trump, and to stop this disaster in its tracks. Will our children wonder why we were so reluctant?

    ncidentally, when I say “everything,” I really do mean everything. Tomorrow night, as they stand on either side of Trump, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz must find their resolve and all-but-machine-gun the man to the floor.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431858/donald-trump-2016-campaign-must-be-stopped

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  10. I am surprised that you still have a working twitter account. Known conservative thinkers are disappearing into the twitter black hole hourly.
    It appears Mr. Fallows does not have the intestinal fortitude to call for what he desires. Another thoroughly disgusting human being.
    Scott Adams had a blog post a few days ago about the Fear that some people have of Donald Trump. Irrational pant’s pissing crawling under the bed fear.

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/139789877466/solving-for-scary-trump-persuasion-series

    and the lead in to that post

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/139119223061/why-does-trump-terrify-people

    The only impressive thing Mr. Fallows has done is to have been President Carter’s speechwriter … I remember his mellifluous words anent lust in his arteries and wearing sweaters. Another gravy train prog envious of a better man’s life long success.

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  11. If US survived Clinton, Bush II, and Obama, it can survive anyone.

    Besides, Trump is calling for end of foreign intervention and secure borders.

    How can that be bad for the world?

    The real danger isn’t any of the candidates.

    It is the GLOB that rules over them all, even Trump.

    But if Trump is least controlled by the GLOB, we need to go for him.

    Trump, then Bernie. As for the rest… hell with them.

    I don’t believe in Bernie’s socialism, but it might be the necessary counterbalance against the Blob.
    It’s like we don’t want to flood a forest but if it’s on fire, a lot of water might do some good. Fire vs water will lead to end of fire and no flood.

    If Sanders could get everything he wants, it’d be bad. But if he could apply counterforce against GLOB somewhat, it’d be good.

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  12. Yeah, the ruling class really does hate it when the curtain comes up and it’s us looking back at them.

    One of the more entertaining things for me has been seeing hard leftists finally confronted with actual working class stirrings and feeling nothing but fear.

    Someone should really do a Twitter and FB analysis of “trump”, “scary”, “scared”, etc

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  13. The serfs, ah “primary voters”, are revolting

    Yes they are.

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    Please, Steve, this is the kind of talk that makes Krauthammer, Kristol et al very nervous.

    The neocons have a plan for derailing Trump.

    But all will be lost if some hothead acts on emotion instead of waiting for the neocon false flag.

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  15. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/us/politics/republican-race-puts-paul-ryan-and-donald-trump-on-collision-course.html

    Really, it is interesting to see how the left-wing press is having to contort itself now that it has decided that Trump is actually worse than GOP.

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  16. I would understand the griping IF Trump were running against people like Kennedy, Reagan, Eisenhower, FDR, and even Carter who was, to some extent, his own man. Or even Nixon who was not without substance.

    But when the rest of the field has been the likes of Rubio, Cruz, Fiorina, fat Christie, Kasisch, Jeb oh that Jebby, Carson, etc (even Lindsey Graham was in the race), how does Trump come across as worse?

    Seriously.

    Besides, the Trump vs media would be good for the presidency. The media might finally do its job.
    Media was asleep on the Iraq War, Obama in 2008, Libya, Syria, telling lies about Ukraine, and etc. Media have been so pro-Obama that it just looked the other way.

    But Trump will be watched 24/7. That is a good thing.

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  17. I don’t know how anybody can do a decent job handicapping this election.

    There are no apples to compare to these oranges.

    It seems like a classic Black Swan event. I can easily imagine either side trouncing the other, and anything in between.

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  18. Well, Fallows hasn’t been right about much over the years, but his distaste for the hoi polloi has always been obvious…hence good paychecks. Wonder if Fallows thinks a major power can have Hillary as a leader….

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  19. I hope he wins the whole thing, but Hillary has an effective machine and will be tough to beat. I’ll be incredibly surprised (though certainly thrilled) if he’s our next President.

    Even if he loses, he will have already accomplished so much. In the long run, the value of croaking Jeb and – God willing – Rubio can’t be overstated. Both should have had huge advantages in terms of winning elections and seizing power, and both will have clearly lost, at least in part, due to support for amnesty and open immigration.

    Bush was a former governor of a swing state with a supposed record of job creation and “problem solving.” Famous name, managed to raise 150 mil in campaign funds; should have been the favorite. But his repeated support for illegal immigrants, with his annoying “act of love” talk, and his refusal to enforce the law cut him down.

    Rubio, while not a favorite on the level of Jeb at the start of the campaign, is certainly the establishment’s current hope. Young, good looking, good salesman, slight bit of minority cache. But he will (hopefully) get cut down due to his sponsoring of an amnesty bill despite promising not to do so.

    Combined with Cantor’s primary loss, the heavy hitters have to be able to read the writing on the wall. It doesn’t matter what they think, it doesn’t really even matter what they want. It matters what they’re terrified of doing once in power.

    The message has to be repeated, and tied to the embarassments of Cantor, Jeb and Rubio (?) personally:

    - real and effective border enforcement
    - no amnesty for illegal immigrants, ever
    - fines and loss of business licenses for those caught hiring illegals
    - no more refugees (hasn’t been hit as hard yet, but Trump’s willingness to talk the talk is encouraging)

    Even if Trump loses the general, these points have to be reiterated to GOP donors and office-seekers. The lesson of Jeb and Rubio has to be “if you go soft on illegal immigrants, you have no future in this party. Talk all the shit you want about the need to broaden the tent and reach out to minorities; you, personally, will be OUT OF A JOB if you support amnesty or vote against securing the border.”

    That’s the way forward. And Trump is leading us there.

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  20. Twitter is a fantastic equalizer and game-changer. The old mass media setup allowed pundits to comfortably sit in their seats on cable news shows and pound away at us like naval guns firing from offshore. The rest of us just had to hunker down and take it. Twitter forces them to come fight us on land in an even match. They lose their invulnerability and everyone learns how throughly second-rate they always were. “Never get off the boat man!” as Chef said in Apocalypse Now. Wise advice indeed.

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  21. Fallows, who loves strongmen government, is basically pissed he created a system where a strongman from the opposite side can take power?

    Cry me a river.

    Also, look for more and more wild and direct threats against Trump by the left as the election marches on. They will be openly encouraging assassination—-most especially those lefties who claimed that the right’s “culture of fear” some how lead to Gabby Giffords being shot up by a schizophrenic.

    All I can say is I hope Trump: (1) stays safe; and (2) gathers the names of people like Fallows encouraging assassination. He should arrest them immediately after being sworn in, and try them for incitement of murder.

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  22. The truly scary thing for them should be that there are millions of Democrats who are also casting a fond eye toward Trump. The college kids who are buried in debt. Blue collar workers. The towns that lost their factories 25 years ago and got pointless federal job training and methadone clinics for junkies in their place.

    Robert Reich spelled it out in today’s Salon. He sees that Trump-and-Bernie appeal is across the political spectrum.

    Although Reich (as always) couldn’t bring himself to actually say the “i”-word. Walls are only moral in Reich’s homeland, never in white goy countries.

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  23. In all seriousness, I am more and more worried that there are shabby and nasty people with the means and motives to cut short Trump’s run for office. They have so much to lose if he wins.

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  24. “I’m not a Trump guy, but I have to admit that it’s hilariously entertaining to watch how he trips up the left.”

    He trips up the neocons at least as much as he trips up the more obvious leftists, God bless him.

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  25. The overlords love “Democracy” (Russia is evil because they don’t have it) as long as they are able to choreograph the results through their campaign contributions and control of media, but as soon as voters have a chance to actually get what they want it is “scary” and “haunts [them] day and night” (shouldn’t grown men be embarrassed to talk like this in public? Even if I had such girly feelings I would keep them to myself) and anti-Democratic scheming must be resorted to in order to thwart the the will of the people at all costs.

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  26. Fallows was on Fareed Zakaria last Sunday. His leg was tingling about Sudanese and Somali women working in the pork meatpacking industry in Sioux Falls, SD. Fallows from the transcript:

    For example, a place like Sioux Falls, South Dakota. It’s a largely white city, largely upper Midwest, plains, Protestant city, Lutherans and German. German and Norwegian residents there. They became one of the main places for absorbing refugees. Along the streets in Sioux Falls you see Somali and Sudanese people walking along to their jobs to the gas stations or the malls, in a beef, in a pork packing house in downtown Sioux Falls. They worked tens of thousands of pigs and meet their maker every day. Most of the people doing the dispatching, a large number of them are Muslim women refugees from the rest of the world, who are there sometimes wearing their head gear and working in this pig slaughter house so their kids can go to high school and college, join ROTC, do all these other things.

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  27. Would it be safe to say that if Trump is not struck by lightning then God doesn’t approve of the Pope’s political message?

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  28. Good lord, the way these panty-wetters talk, you’d think Trump was a raving madman.

    But it’s worse: he’s vulgar!

    I find Trump almost infinitely preferable to Clinton and Sanders, and the only GOP candidate who could possibly sway me would be Cruz. (Rubio? That immigration traitor? No way.)

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  29. “George Wallace was assassinated….”

    George Wallace was not assassinated. One of the two bullets that struck Governor Wallace paralyzed him from his waist down. Wallace then lived for another twenty-five-plus years.

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  30. I’d love to see Trump in the Oval Office. My only concern is the She Hag still leads in the polls.

    It’s also going to be interesting to watch the media go all out to promote her and, at the same time, trash Trump.

    The Donald has a real mountain to climb. Don’t assume otherwise.

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  31. the “ruining class” are effin’ nimrods

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  32. Wallace wasn’t assassinated, but he was partially paralyzed.

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  33. (even Lindsey Graham was in the race)

    Hellfire, George Fucking Pataki was in the race! I didn’t even know he was still alive.

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  34. Huey Long…

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  35. Twitter is a fantastic equalizer and game-changer.

    It WAS, but I don’t know for how much longer. Conservatives are being unpersoned now.

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  36. Hillary is a false favorite. She had the same machine in 2008 when she lost to a novice, this time she’s struggling to beat an obscure old man from Vermont. Even though Democrats have a hard time liking her supposedly voters who aren’t Democrats will rush to back her in the general election.

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  37. GLOB = Globo-elites?

    Either a President Trump or Sanders would face massive obstructionism from Congress and would have to rely heavily on their control of Executive Branch departments and agencies to get anything done. Regarding immigration reform, Trump would probably be more effective without resorting to executive actions because step-one in tackling the problem is merely to start fully enforcing the existing laws (including labor laws) which multiple federal agencies have neglected to do for several decades now. Recently, Sanders has gone on the record that he effectively wants higher immigration numbers and that he’d even go beyond what President Obama has done to make things right as he sees it.

    As relative outsiders with few Beltway favors to call up, both candidates would have to make major concessions to special interests in Congress if they want to get anywhere with their campaign to-do lists. This was also President Obama’s big weakness. So at this point, the big question about Trump, Sanders, or even Clinton for that matter, should be what specific concessions would they be likely to make? What nods to pet policies and/or official “will not bother” guarantees will they likely push across the table to make a deal?

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  38. Drezner’s been a disappointment since he contracted Stockholm Syndrome after being passed over for tenure at U of Chicago at the same time they were recruiting Leiter.

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  39. That was basically what I was hoping–Trump would fail but push the rest of the field to reject amnesty and move the conservative movement against amnesty.

    So, he succeeded instead. Well, we’ll see how he does. I don’t think he can beat Hillary…but I didn’t think he’d get this far either.

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  40. If anyone besides Hillary had the same allegations against her (not to mention was under investigation by the FBI) than he or she would be out of the game regardless of party. I think it’s simply a case of Hillary having been the “inevitable” successor to Bill ever since Al Gore’s loss that an entire generation has grown up just waiting for her to run.

    Not to mention, she has some of the worst people surrounding her I’ve ever seen. Mark Penn, Lanny Davis, Bruce Reed et all are part of the now-defunct DLC wing of the party that commands no voter loyalty but still has enough money and contacts to make one final gasp.

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  41. Isn’t it the conservatives who are left alone and the alt-right types who are being targeted? In any case, we can expect the plutocrats to get nastier and fight dirtier the more they realize their old techniques are no longer working.

    We’ll know they’re starting to get their head in the game when we see the silly hipster types like Ezra Klein replaced by grown-ups who make serious arguments and veiled threats.

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  42. One overlooked factor is Hillary’s vast unpopularity among large numbers of Dem voters : Blacks, Hispanics, Blue -collar Whites, etc.
    She can beat Bern in the primaries but Hillary is going to be slaughtered by Trump in the ballots.

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  43. That is some kind of fetish porn. I’m not sure which is weirder; Fallow’s cheering of African ingression to the upper Midwest, or his glee at the irony of Muslims working in a hog slaughter plant.

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  44. Is he using the Fed provided SS or his own private guys? I know who I would be using.

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  45. Trump is a billionaire son of a multi-millionaire and was schooled at a military academy and an elite business school. He is a teetotaler married to an Eastern European model half his age. He has absolutely nothing in common with barstool guy. That’s why he’s winning.

    The major problem he’s facing right now is defection of Republicans who are afraid of him in a general election. For people who don’t like him, he will not appear to clean up against Hillary in debates unless he changes his style.

    Debates are his big opportunity because they’re the time you see the two candidates together in the same space. It’s his chance to dominate the other candidate in front of the public.

    Against Hillary, he needs to
    (1) get her to trip over her words, throw up her hands, or otherwise stumble into submission without doing through insults or condescension
    (2) score real debating points against her. Not many, but something for pundits to latch onto…

    If he can do those things, he can stanch the oncoming leak of “Hillary Republican” voters and bring independents into the fold.

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  46. I’m not sure about the history, but the film (which I cherish) emphasized Beckett’s Saxon origins and Henry’s Norman origins and that they had forged a friendship as young men in spite of this difference.

    The Normans were, of course, the ruling class of alien origins while the Saxons were the core population of England ruled by the former.

    I suppose one view that was a subtext in the movie is that Beckett placed principle above and before his fealty to the new class into which he was granted access.

    This makes your analogy all the more striking, doesn’t it?

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  47. It’s not just Trump he wants gone. Also, leaf blowers: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-prominent-writer-and-washington-insider-is-launching-a-war-on-leaf-blowers/2016/01/12/1fd42ec6-b8b3-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html?tid=a_inl

    This grandee used to write glowing reports from police state Peking while coughing his lungs out.

    Never underestimate the loathing Western elites have for their culture, history and people.

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  48. Remember how we were repeatedly assured that this was the “deepest” most “talented” Republican “bench” of presidential candidates in decades. Yet everyone one of them but Trump turned out to be an empty can.

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  49. That’s an intentional reference to Reagan Democrats…

    Reagan Democrats
    Hillary Republicans

    You heard it here first, but if Trump is the candidate, pundits will start talking about “Hillary Republicans”… the Dems won’t rely on Hispanics and Trump will find a way to appeal to blacks…

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  50. A trip down memory lane…

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-real-obama/#comment-1012195

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  51. Hillary is a false favorite. She had the same machine in 2008 when she lost to a novice, this time she’s struggling to beat an obscure old man from Vermont. Even though Democrats have a hard time liking her supposedly voters who aren’t Democrats will rush to back her in the general election.

    Bingo!!!

    All the “Establishment” types who are so afraid of Hillary are idiots. NOBODY likes Hillary, even her own party. But the talking heads and Establishment fools insist on taking her seriously. Trump is the only candidate who will stand up to her and call her a liar and a fraud to her face. Like him or not, Trump is the ONLY guy who can beat her. The Establishment has it totally backwards. They actually think Rubio can beat her? I’d like to know what kind of drugs they’re on…

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  52. I know Trump asked Obama for it in 2015 and Obama granted it.

    Now, I mentioned this a while ago, but Trump must have a lot of expertise in security. He’s got major celebrities living on his property as well as foreign dignitaries, and he himself has been a major media celebrity for 40 years. He’s probably as well versed and expert on security as anyone not in the SS, CIA, or running Blackwater would be. And he’s got the coin to pay for the best for himself—meaning ex-special forces type dudes and Blackwater types.

    And then add to that how abysmally awful the Secret Service has been in the last eight years in protecting the president (Obama Inauguration gate crashers, hooker scandal in Colombia, letting a schizophrenic nutcase fake “sign language interpreter” on stage next to Obama during the Nelson Mandela, the dude who climbed into the white house and ran over the affirmative action Secret Service chick….) —

    and I’ll bet Trump’s personal security force is still around—both providing security jointly with the SS and watching the SS closely. Trump’s no fool when it comes to dirty tricks, either.

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  53. This is a good point. Trump could at least get the executive branch to start enforcing the immigration laws already on the books. But someone like Sanders could do the same with existing securities and financial fraud laws.

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  54. Don’t worry about the polls. The Democrats and Republicans haven’t even debated or campaigned against each other yet. In February 1980, Jimmy Carter “lead” Ronald Reagan by an amazing 30 points in national polls. Reagan destroyed Carter in debates and won easily.

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  55. “My Peak State variant on the Deep State theory is, well, sure, that can happen, but a lot of the time the guy who spent his life clawing his way to the top of the official hierarchy of power didn’t do it just to let a bunch of lower level tough guys call the shots about who lives and who dies. The power behind the throne often turns out to be the guy on the throne.”

    If he hasn’t done it already, Steve would get a kick out of reading “Duluth”, the Gore Vidal novel about a city where everything is controlled by a shadowy figure called “the Dude”. It turns out at the end that the Dude is the Mayor (this is a spoiler but you can enjoy reading the book knowing this, its a satire, not a murder mystery).

    However, I think Steve’s theory underestimates how many times the ostensible head guy is in fact a puppet, and the guy who supposedly clawed his way to the top actually had his path laid out for him and knows it. Setting up figureheads is really a pretty common device in organizations.

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  56. …Trump would fail but push the rest of the field to reject amnesty and move the conservative movement against amnesty.

    My concern was and is that once the election is over, the establishment would resume ignoring the ignorant peasant rank and file and go right back to amnesty again. Trump seems to me the least likely to do that (although even him I have my doubts).

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  57. With Fallows, his intellectual bias is showing.

    People like him prefer politicians who are urbane and ‘thoughtful’. Such politicians lend an ear to thinkers, and intellectuals feel flattered. Philosopher-kings who seek the advice of philosophers.

    If such politicians are absent, intellectuals prefer the empty suits. While empty suits like Rubio are total zeroes, they still go through the motion of listening to experts and deferring to them. Empty suits are bogus but they do as experts advise them. So, think-tankers win. At the bare minimum, empty suits maintain the decorum and outward appearance of ‘thoughtful leader who listens to the best advice’.

    But Trump? His style is, “I know what’s right, and I don’t need know egghead telling me what’s what.” You gotta break some eggheads to make America great again.

    People like Fallows feel left out when a man like Trump comes along.

    I like the idea of intellectuals giving advice, but given the total takeover of think-tanks by lobbyists, special interest groups, the GLOB, and Zionist interests, most ‘experts’ are shills and gangsters of globo-supremacism.

    Fallows ought to know that.

    It is not Trump who’s pushing for policy that will drag the world to war. People who are doing it are the ‘thinkers’ and ‘experts’ who advised other GOP candidates to call for more tensions in Middle East and with Russia.

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  58. At least 50% of the alt-right followers I had have been banned from Twitter since Jan. 1, none of whom were ranting like KKK members at a kegger. I was booted in mid-Jan.

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  59. asscheeks of saturn?

    shouldn’t it be asscheeks of uranus?

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  60. My thoughts exactly. I think a lot of Bernie Dems cross the aisle and Trump gets 55%+ the popular vote. Landslide.

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  61. Yes, a lot of Sanders supporters will vote for Trump over Hillary, and Democrats who opposed the Iraq War and voted for Obama have no love for Hillary either. Reckon Trump gets at least 35% of Democratic voters, so I am pretty sure that a runoff between Hillary and Trump is a landslide for Trump with the popular vote about 66% to 33%.

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  62. Yes, it could be the opening shot of Civil War 2.

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  63. “Will No One Rid Me of This Troublesome Trump?”

    I realize that Trump worship is reaching a fever pitch in these parts, but is he now to be compared to a brave saint and martyr who died for his faith? What personal danger does this vulgar billionaire face for this allegedly brave principled dissent to power, eh? If anything, I think this is making him an even bigger celebrity in demand by all of the MSM.

    Look, I considered supporting Trump for a while (over Cruz), but this is just a bridge too far.

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  64. I don’t think Sanders has any backbone for a real fight. Right now, what he’s saying is popular with crowds and he loves the applause. However, he’s not willing to deal Hillary a serious blow, anymore than McCain was willing to really fight Obama in 2008. So he’s a paper tiger, no real threat to the system.

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  65. Reckon Trump gets at least 35% of Democratic voters, so I am pretty sure that a runoff between Hillary and Trump is a landslide for Trump with the popular vote about 66% to 33%.

    Hillary is damaged, and if the GOP candidate were to be Trump, I hope he trounces her. But your numbers are a fantasy. Yes, Hillary will do very badly with blue collar/pro-union whites (especially men), and Trump will peel away a lot of such Democratic voters. BUT, Trump will also shed a great deal of mildly GOP-leaning voters (particularly in the crucial suburbs), especially college-educated women.

    The unfortunate thing is that he didn’t have to alienate women, especially married women who are often GOP-leaning, with his boorish, nasty comments and cartoonishly villainous behavior.

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  66. Even if Trump loses the general, these points have to be reiterated to GOP donors and office-seekers.

    Since open borders is the main thing GOP donors care about, they’ll just become Democrat donors. The only reason they donate to the GOP now is so that both parties are on the side of open borders.

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  67. [They worked tens of thousands of pigs and meet their maker every day]

    This is an automated translation from which language?

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  69. The election outcome will have not much to do with any of that, one way or the other. If, as appears likely, the US is in a recession by early November, Trump will walk it.

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  70. “In the Deep State interpretation of the assassination of Becket, “Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?” wasn’t an order, it was just a cry of temporary frustration by King Henry II that gets overly literally interpreted by the four knights.”

    If Henry Plantagenet had had his conversations tape-recorded (ala Nixon, LBJ, and JFK), I’m sure he would have added “…….but that would be wrong.”

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  71. I don’t know that he needs to do any of those things. If we just look at the turnout in the primaries, all the Republican primaries are showing record turnouts, and the Dems are lackluster at best. Neither of their candidates are energizing anyone. Particularly if Hillary wins a squeaker based on her superdelegate pledges, half of the Dem voters will sit out the general. Obama barely managed to get by Romney (Romney!) with a near lock on the black vote. The black and hispanic vote is going to see a massive reversion to the mean in 2016, I wager.

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  72. “For example, a place like Sioux Falls, South Dakota. It’s a largely white city, largely upper Midwest, plains, Protestant city, Lutherans and German. German and Norwegian residents there. They became one of the main places for absorbing refugees.”

    He makes it sound like these (fake) refugees just wandered out of an alien mothership one evening. Those places didn’t just “become” a place upon which to foist off (fake) refugees – they were chosen for it, because they are (hideously) white.

    “Most of the people doing the dispatching, a large number of them are Muslim women refugees from the rest of the world, who are there sometimes wearing their head gear and working in this pig slaughter house so their kids can go to high school and college, join ROTC, do all these other things.”

    ROTC. Great. Just what the army needs – more Major Hasan’s, but with even bigger chips on their shoulder because their parents had to labor in the infidel’s unclean pig-plants.

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  73. “Good lord, the way these panty-wetters talk, you’d think Trump was a raving madman.

    But it’s worse: he’s vulgar!”

    Yeah, that’s pretty funny. As if Bill and Hillary were not exceedingly vulgar. As if G.W. Bush wasn’t vulgar. As if Ted Cruz, with his oily religiousity, isn’t vulgar.

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  74. George Pataki? I thought you were dead!

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  75. Right.

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  76. The black and hispanic vote is going to see a massive reversion to the mean in 2016, I wager.

    Of course–they voted in TWO CONSECUTIVE ELECTIONS, man! Time to chill for awhile.

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  77. I agree, but if we’re in a recession in November, NPR listeners won’t hear about it. To listen to NPR’s business show, “Marketplace,” you’d think we’re all agog over how low the official unemployment figures are. A recession won’t be acknowledged until a Republican is in office.

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  78. And Senator Ricky Martin? Positively oozes class.

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  79. I don’t doubt there is a Deep State, but it’s either not that powerful or is unbelievably good at covering its tracks. No, even in the freewheeling CIA you have to get your drones from somewhere, and they aren’t trained and indoctrinated by old men in back rooms with cigars.

    The real power in this country isn’t elected officials, either. Nixon was brought down by the frickin press. Presidents don’t run the White House, let alone the executive branch. There is some power in committee chairmanship in Congress, and certain congressmen have sinecures, with 98% probability of reelection. Administrative law outweighs congressional law by a billion to one (not a precise ratio), and congressmen don’t write or read laws anyway.

    No, the real power is the part of government that never leaves. This is the Permanent Government, or so-called Civil Service. It includes some appointed positions, like SCOTUS. Mostly it’s drones. They make actual law, they carry actual, ultimate decisions. They’re where policy meets reality.

    The real power behind this power are the bodies that tell the civil service what to think. They also tell us what to think by telling educators and journalists what to think. These are universities and NGOs.

    I don’t care who gets elected president, with how big a mandate. Even if they could replace the civil service with their own people, which isn’t possible anymore, they couldn’t control the outcome. Because they wouldn’t have trained the new people what to think. Eventually they would regress to the level set by the educational system, the MSM, etc.

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  80. I don’t know about your “finally.” Happens all the time. Ever see their reaction to the Tea Party–insofar as they could admit it wasn’t a bunch of “astroturf” robots programmed by the Koch Bros.–”home grown terror,” Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan, the hard hats or segregationists (ones that were populists) back when, non-non-white hickdom in general, etc.?

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  81. If he’s outside their frame if reference it’s partly because he’s on their side. He’s on both sides, or all sides. This is so because we’re stuck in am Age of Ideology and Trump lives in the World of Action.

    The left has this idea that he’s on the far right, but he’s not. He’s got a couple of “extremist” positions–on immigration and trade–that’s all. Establishment conservatives think he’s not A True Conservative. First of all, that doesn’t mean much considering how muddied is that term. But they’re correct, in a way. Trump is more conservative than he is anything else, which is to say he’s to the right of the mainstream . I believe that. But he’s to the left of establishment conservatives on enough things to see where they’re coming from.

    Point is, he straddles ideological lines because he’s not an ideologue. He’s not an idea man. He’s a doer. Lots of presidents aren’t idea men, I assume. Did Bush the Younger ever think for himself, I wonder? They have people to think for them. Trump doesn’t, at least not so far as I know. Or else his idea men are an eclectic bunch.

    He will have people thinking for him eventually. I wonder how much and to what extent he’ll be controlled. Doesn’t matter all that much because presidents don’t matter all th,at much. But I’m curious. In the meantime Trump is beyond or above or below ideas. None of that sissy stuff for him.

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  82. I don’t think we were the worse for it, though he might’ve burned out on his own. “Every man a king” is a frighteningly effective slogan in democratic politics.

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  83. Hilary got beat by a nobody in the 2008, and is only barely beating a old time Eugene V. Debs clone this time around because the Democrats super delegates have disproportionate power. Trump is drawing huge crowds in every state he campaigns in ( He drew 6,000-7,000 in Myrtle Beach two days before the primary ) and is getting people voting for a Republican presidential candidate who haven’t voted consistently GOP since Reagan and Bush Senior’s first term.

    The MSM is overwhelmingly left, they should be ecstatic that those evil Republicans are going to nominate a sure fire loser for the general election and yet all you see is constant bile and hatred directed at the man 24/7 and little or no mention of his said unelectability in those pieces. All the crap about unelectability comes from the GOP neoconservatives and their donor class superiors who know like the MSM that he is electable. I don’t know who is more unhinged about the Trump right now, the left or neoconservatives, they are both approaching frothing at the mouth stage after the Nevada win.

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  84. I don’t know. I’d like to see the press hound politicians more, but on some level it’s just theater (even if the consequences are real for the players). Of all the evil done in Washington in the 20th century what do we remember as scandals because they were effectively exploited by the MSM? Watergate was about the billionth worst thing they did.

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  85. As if Ted Cruz, with his oily religiousity, isn’t vulgar.

    I see. Declaration of Christian faith is akin to calling people bimbos and pussies in front of large crowds.

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  86. The 1964 film Becket is based on Jean Anouilh’s play which is historically incorrect, because Becket was not Saxon, he was Norman. This suggests that to heighten the character conflict in his play, Anouilh wrote Becket as a Saxon.

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  87. Figureheads are common in cases of term limits, like Putin’s boy president. And when the real power is somebody disreputable, such as a military dictator. But when the president is the military dictator who came to power in a coup, like Musharraf in Pakistan, then usually Deep State = Peak State.

    I haven’t followed Pakistani politics closely lately, but, yes, when they have an election and an obscure politician (rather than a dynast like the late Ms. Bhutto) wins, I’m sure he’s mostly a figurehead. With Musharraf, though, he was the chief of the general staff, and overthrew the elected president to become military dictator around 1999.

    My guess is that when the decision was made in 2005 to put up Osama bin Laden about a mile from Pakistan’s military academy, Musharraf made the call. But I don’t know that for sure.

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  88. The “neocon plan” to derail Trump was Jeb, Marco, and Ted Cruz. They ended up just not caring enough about this preference. Hillary is better than 60% to win no matter who is nominated, another reason they do not care so much.

    Whil the Kochs are still, by far, the biggest funders of the GOP, the biggest primary funder lately has been Adelson. He likes Marco the best, his adored wife prefers Cruz, but they are sitting things out. The Kochs flirted heavy with Walker, but never ended up cutting him any big checks.

    They still prefer Trump to Hillary, so they will basically stay out of the election offering tepid support if Trump continues on his current path. It is possible he will alienate them to the point of siding actively with Hillary. Or Trump could hire John Bolton or something and firmly get then back.

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  89. People like Fallows feel left out when a man like Trump comes along.

    Even intellectuals who like or agree with Ronald Reagan are loath to give the man any credit for the demise of the USSR. It was either in the DNA from the beginning (which is 180° from their previous position, but never mind), or the wise leadership of Mikhail Gorbachev. Never mind that Gorby was Ron’s fourth Soviet leader, and it’s inconceivable that he would have risen had Jimmy Carter pulled off an upset.

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  90. I find it most disheartening that Steve hasn’t been shadowbanned from Twitter. Is that a reflection on his perceived importance?

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  91. You can declare your belief in Christianity in a classy or an oily way, and Cruz does oily.

    Converting to America style evangelical christianity from Catholicism, or any of the classy old Protestant denominations: Lutheran, Episcopalian, Quaker, Congregational, Dutch Reformed, is going to make you look strange to most Americans.

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  92. I see. Declaration of Christian faith is akin to calling people bimbos and pussies in front of large crowds.

    Trump, in his less-than-refined way, takes his cue from John 8:32:

    And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

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  93. Although I think that Hillary Clinton has a lot of weaknesses, do not overlook the huge structural advantage that the Democratic Party has in the Electoral College. Mark Steyn had a good analysis up last week and Pat Buchanan has done similar work. I think Trump has the best chance to win against Hillary Clinton but that Democratic Electoral College advantage is a major obstacle.

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  94. I’m not so sure that Trump has alienated that many women, even GOP-leaning, college-educated women. Trump may give them the “tingles.”

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  95. Mark Steyn and Pat Buchanan have made similar observations: until you change the underlying culture, the election results will only marginally influence the course that the country is on.

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  96. What does “shadowbanned” mean?

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  97. You said it, they stink on ice.

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  98. The whole history of 1982-83 has been shoved down the memory hole. For example, Wikipedia does not have an entry on “Nuclear Freeze.”

    Similarly, the Wikipedia page on the West German election of March 1983 is barely rudimentary:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_German_federal_election,_1983

    I can remember anxiously bending down to read the Chicago Tribune’s headline in the newspaper vending machine announcing that Kohl had won and the nuclear freeze had lost. It was a gray day in Chicago, but when I read it, I was thinking, okay, we’re not going to lose the Cold War.

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  99. Shadowbanning allows you to post your comment but doesn’t allow anyone else to see it, so while you think that you’re contributing and engaging with people no one else even knows that you’re there or posting.

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  100. “What personal danger does this vulgar billionaire face for this allegedly brave principled dissent to power, eh?”

    Being killed. See the late Pim Fortuyn in Holland (and possibly the late Jorg Haider in Austria) for details.

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  101. Been plenty of polls where Trump leads Clinton in states such as Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Florida.

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  102. Or Trump could hire John Bolton or something and firmly get then back.

    I don’t understand this as it relates to the Kochs. They may be all in on invite the world, but I’ve never seen them support invade the world. I get it with Adelson.

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  103. The Nuclear Freeze movement was huge in the 1980s. Ed Markey wanted to ride it to the White House. Getting the cruise missiles and the Pershing IIs deployed resulted eventually in the elimination of these kinds of weapons from Europe. The Nuclear Freeze would have “frozen” only the West into a position of inferiority.

    Even the machinations of the Seven Year’s War are better documented on Wikipedia at least.

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  104. That Wallace ‘lived’ was a distinction without a difference. He was, as you note, paralyzed, and in great pain for the rest of his life unable to ever again pursue a political career.

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  105. If you watch tv shows like ‘COPS’ or ‘The First 48″ you’ll see another side to the Somali immigrant. The one who strangles woman in the laundry mat raving that that he is lion or the one who guns a white teenager down in an alley during a drive by shooting. I suspect there are more young Somali men in the Minnesota Department of Corrections than in ROTC progams.

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  106. Don’t expect any serious arguments form the “grown-ups”:

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/02/24/gope-announce-plans-to-go-full-mississippi-on-donald-trump-to-destroy-him/

    The plan is to throw everything at Trump in the hope that something sticks. This hasn’t changed since the early days of the Republic. I haven’t read Aristotle’s Politics, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you found it there.

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  107. They really are a propaganda arm for the State.

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  108. So far, the betting markets and electoral map show Hillary winning easily. Wish it were otherwise, but it is what it is.

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  109. Yeah, he’s the dirty old alpha male they can’t stop liking, despite his rudeness, or because of it.
    While Hillary is the kind of old liberal harpy that youngish liberal women dislike.
    Really, I can’t think of a worse candidate than Hillary. It seems as if the Democratic Party is about to implode.

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  110. You can defund NGOs and universities to a certain degree. No power is permanent. By its very nature, it’s fickle. The whole cathedral or hive, as you choose to call it, can come crumbling down in months. Look at the old USSR for an example.
    There are many measures that can be taken to slaughter the beast. And civil servants aren’t particularly reputed to be brave. They’ll follow orders, no matter who gives them.
    Having said that, Trump if elected can only take some small steps in this direction. I hope he has a good team behind him. Younger guys who’ll do the long and dirty work ahead.

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  111. 1) October 2015 New York Times Magazine:
    We asked @nytmag readers: If you could go back and kill Hitler as a baby, would you do it?

    2) February 2016:
    Trump is Hitler

    3) ???

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  112. Bomb the village to save it…

    Too late for NR. If the “stop Trump now” issue didn’t work, then any subsequent efforts merely serves to prove ineffectualness and lack of influence. In some circles, that’s called shooting blanks.

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  113. “Nixon was brought down by the frickin press.”

    Lol, still at laughing at this line. Not quite sir, and not by a long shot. TPTB had a lot of shit on Tricky Dick, it was ironic that a burglary discovered (mostly) randomly by DCPD was the thing that brought him down. Nixon was up to ears in campaign funding fraud, but that didn’t stick like Watergate did. The CIA (w/ a large hat tip to the JCS) deserves the overwhelming credit for ending Nixon, not the press.

    You actually made the correct point later in your comment about the Federal bureaucracy being the immovable object that prevents change. This is correct in many ways. BTW, Nixon had reforming the civil service (specifically the CIA) high on his radar screen for term #2. How’d that work out for Nixon?

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  114. I think it’s one of Instapundit’s nuggets: If you want the media to do it’s job, elect a Republican president (otherwise they just provide cover).

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  115. I think on another thread (or blog) someone said that his personal bodyguard is ex-NYC police.

    He should see if any of the Benghazi contractors are available. I read the book 13 Hours. These guys were awesome: courageous, capable and committed. Real badasses.

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  116. Becket died to defend the principle that [Roman] Church authority was independent of the Crown, in general and with particular reference to the canon law courts.

    On the one hand, a solid defence of the idea of civil society insofar as it meant the existence of a powerful social institution and organization independent of the government, one that could protect both itself and, at need, regular people, from the state.

    On the other hand, also a solid defence of the idea that a multinational organization could exempt its staffers, even citizens of the host country, from the reach of domestic law, and dictate the terms of policy to that government when it wished. For that matter, a defence of the idea that a powerful corporate interest could run a parallel ‘private’ court system with state acquiescence, and try not only its own members under their own law but also interfere in the application of civil and criminal law to citizens.

    Since the evolution of our own system required both the development and strengthening of the state, its institutions and its laws, the application of same across entire countries evenly, and the elimination of self-governing corporations above and outside the law, as well as the removal of external levels of sovereignty from its operations, AND the development of limitations to all of those trends, frankly we could not have arrived at anything resembling constitutional government without both Henry II [father of common law and the royal courts system as opposed to private law] and Becket, or for that matter both Henry VIII and Thomas More.

    That does make Becket a hero to be remembered, up to a point and with context in mind. That he was named a saint and martyr by the church said more about its belief in itself as the shadow of the Roman empire on earth [or for that matter the forerunner of the UN and the ICC] than its principled defence of the teachings of Christ.

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  117. If the trend continues, NPR listeners will have heard about the recession before November. When the ‘official’ unemployment number excludes long-term unemployed as “not in the labor market,” it doesn’t take a genius to recognize the fakery. Granted, the ‘recovery’ has been so tepid, and long-term unemployment has become so chronic, the NPR chattering class probably won’t notice–until the NBER tells them after-the-fact that a recession has occurred.

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  118. Many years ago (perhaps 20+) I watched an interview on 60 minutes of Gen. Hamid Gul the chief of ISI. It was very fascinating. Gul was very polished, obviously well educated, intelligent and had an air of dangerousness. He was definitely a formidable player in Pakistan and the entire region. I made a mental note of remembering him as I was thinking our guys should not be treating him lightly as he is not just another little brown man in a fancy uniform.

    Several years ago, perhaps around the time the decision to hide Bin Laden, I read a news story that reported that Hamid Gul was hosting a meeting in Pakistan’s NW Territories with the Pakistani and Afghani Taliban. He was described as a “retired” military officer with close connections to the government.

    I was quite alarmed. I though at that time, “He’s still active! Now working behind the scenes to broker agreements, planning and strategy for anti US terrorism!”

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  119. That might be the first evidence I’ve seen that the Blank Slate-ists at the NYTimes expresses a concession to genetic inheritance. Probably head-exploding cognitive dissonance if it were explained to them.

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  120. paralyzed, and in great pain for the rest of his life unable to ever again pursue a political career.

    True except for being elected governor in 1974. Oh, and running for president in 1976. Oh, Oh, there was also that election as governor in 1982.

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  121. Fallows is the guy the talk show bookers call when they can’t get the real (pseudo) Wise Old Man, David Gergen.

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  122. Wikipedia is unreliable on anything that might disturb the Narrative. The technical stuff is pretty good as far as I can tell.

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  123. What I remember about that period is how the press mocked Reagan when he observed, correctly in my opinion, that much of the freeze agitation was funded by the Soviet Union.

    The press continues to be remarkably uncurious about how any of these “grass roots” demonstrators coordinate their activities and where they get the money to pay for their signs, banners, bullhorns, etc.

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  124. People really need to check out how completely ass-over-teakettle the National Review Online is right now. “It’s time for an anti-Trump Manhattan Project” is just one of many similar headlines over there.

    It really is amazing to watch these treacherous cockroaches run when the lights come on. You’d think they’d want to be a bit more circumspect about letting the public see the Media Master hands shoved up their puppet asses, but no – they’re perfectly okay demonstrating that what they really, Really, REALLY hate isn’t the left, or the Democrats, but Nationalism. They never get this stirred up about ANYTHING.

    Really, it is interesting to see how the left-wing press is having to contort itself now that it has decided that Trump is actually worse than GOP.

    I enjoyed that one too. NYT points and sputters, “but, but, Trump’s no conservative!” Always trying to help the conservatives, the NYT.

    The obvious solution is for the GOPe to change positions and oppose open borders and mass immigration. Tellingly, their response to that option until very recently has been to point and sputter, “inconceivable!!!” It has taken the specter of near-certain defeat for even the weaselly Rubio to finally start to make the proper (if patently false) promises.

    Walls are only moral in Reich’s homeland

    Or, one might say, in Reich’s Reich.

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  125. Magna Charta’s very first clause asserted the independence of the Church from royal authority. Even though the Great Charter was not sealed until the reign of his younger son John, this provision was a direct reaction to the conflict between Henry II and Thomas à Becket, which arose from Henry’s Constitutions of Clarendon. That document asserted royal authority over “criminous clerks,” i.e., clergy that had committed crimes, and made them subject to secular courts. The Church resisted, claiming the exclusive authority of its own courts to try clerical criminals.

    It is possible to feel some sympathy for Henry over the problem of “criminous clerks,” since (then as now) the Church tended to shelter offenders from within its ranks; on the other hand, its grievance with the king worked against the Angevins’ characteristic libido dominandi, contributing to the limitation of royal power, and the development of a jurisprudence in which the king was not above the law.

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  126. Huey Long…

    Huey Long’s popularity was based on promising to tackle a problem (the Depression) that the elites didn’t care about but which was of great concern to ordinary people. Ditto Trump and immigration.

    Long’s campaign came to nothing because a more ‘respectable’ democrat stole his clothes and made them his own. (He was then shot by some lunatic.) If the official Republican candidates were smarter they would have dealt with Trump the same way.

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  127. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Aldo_Moro#The_s.C3.A9ance

    Note that Prodi later became the prime minister of Italy.

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  128. I think he has thought about his security for a long time before this. With his background in real estate development, he knows when he is in a vulnerable space. The secluded, security-laden homes, the private jets/crew/private security guards, who knows what smart technology at hand, he may be safe. It would require an organized group, not a lone-wolf, so to speak, to hurt him….and, he’s been living in a city where organized crime has been around for a century, and, as a developer, he has had to deal with unsavory people world-wide. But, I do share that ominous thought that all the people who claim Trump is crazy and unfit to be president, are crazy and unhinged…but they would get caught: ergo, won’t risk ruining their lives/their children’s lives.

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  129. He went to Harvard and starved himself down to below 120 lbs.(I think he is 6’2″) to get out of the draft. He wrote about avoiding the draft and said he was ashamed when he got his 4F(and the Chelsea proles went willingly). He got an article out of it.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2009/0911.fallows.html

    He did not worry much about it later, and he was part of the 18 million baby boomer men who, all their lives were sympathetic to the political liberal causes to be consistent with their brave bouts of starvation or courageous bus trips to Canada. Add 26 million baby boomer women and demographically the game is over, about 44 to 8….why take a stand when you are rewarded for ducking low? And most importantly you are not Lysistrated by the 26 million babes..

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  130. Speaking of Deep vs. Peak State, if La Madame is nominated any bets on how long it’ll take before Vince Foster is resurrected?

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  131. Trump’s got ex-Special forces dudes working for his security. He’s a billionaire with a high public profile who has heads of state and mega-celebrities living in his buildings, and he’s now the most populist candidate since George Wallace and is hated by his own party leaders.

    He’s too smart not to know they are literally gunning for him. And too rich and smart not to employ the best.

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  132. He was then shot by some lunatic

    A successful young MD who was apparently happily married and had a young child. From Wikipedia: “He did postgraduate work in Vienna, Austria, and was thereafter awarded internships in Vienna and at Bellevue Hospital in New York City. In 1932, he returned to Baton Rouge to enter private practice with his father. He was president of the Louisiana Medical Society in 1933 and a member of the Kiwanis International (Conrad 1988, 2:831).”

    Not much in common with Lee Harvey Oswald beyond the fact that they were both native Louisianans.

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  133. I’m drawing on my memory here, but the decision to deploy the Pershing IIs and the cruise missiles was a major diplomatic defeat for the USSR, precisely because so much of the opposition to their deployment in the form of the nuclear freeze movement was orchestrated by the USSR. I don’t recall any discussion about what the opened KGB archives revealed about that; maybe those portions stayed closed.

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  134. Wasn’t the fact that the Church, not the Crown, collected the fines levied as punishments by ecclesiastical courts a factor in the resentment of them by secular monarchs?

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  135. I do not think there is any political mileage in bringing up Vince Foster. Yes, it looked bad, and the Official Story is a lie, but you can quickly get into the conspiracy theory weeds here.

    Far better for Trump to hammer Hillary on the TS/SCI emails on her home server. How can anyone trust such a person? I am surprised that Bernie hasn’t done this.

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  136. You take enough risk as it is eating food prepared by Third World people with their cavalier attitude to hygiene. But pork prepared by someone who thinks it’s an abomination and regards people who eat it as degenerate infidels?

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  137. Trump has moistened more panties than Maytag.

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  138. “I see. Declaration of Christian faith is akin to calling people bimbos and pussies in front of large crowds.”

    No. There are different kinds of vulgar.

    Campaign events are not religious events. Cruz is an evangical Christian. Fine. The occasional “God Bless You” or “God Bless America” would be sufficient. I don’t need his smarmy tent-revivalist calls to “the body of Christ” and the like.

    So, yes, Cruz is vulgar. However I believe that he is vulgar in a calculated, cynical way, which I think is worse.

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  139. More accurately the (((MSM))) ignored the evidence…then settled in to mock.

    Remember Reed Irvine’s analysis of that in AIM (the evidence that “the freeze” was a KGB-coached and -organized effort with lots of propaganda help from the NYT, etc.?.

    http://www.aim.org/publications/aim_report/1982/12b.html

    Or John Vinocur’s analysis, a year later?

    http://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/26/world/kgb-officers-try-to-infiltrate-antiwar-groups.html?pagewanted=all

    Though I wouldn’t say that “much of the agitation was funded by the Soviet Union.” What I saw happening was masterful deployment of propaganda using the (((MSM))) on upscale white and Jewish liberals. The ones I knew were Quakers and Jews mostly, but that’s probably just a feature of where I was living at the time.

    That propaganda detached itself from “the freeze” per se and attached itself to diverse other peace and justice hydra heads in following years.

    http://www.culture-of-peace.info/apm/chapter6-17.html

    http://www.culture-of-peace.info/apm/chapter7-19.html

    http://www.culture-of-peace.info/apm/chapter7-20.html

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  140. Not to be pedantic but if someone is wrong about everything, how can they not be stupid??? Because he can express his stupid ideas eloquently??

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    […] 2, 3, 4, 5), with additional finger–pointing. About that nuclear business. Uh oh (+), plus. Violent rhetoric. Why? The GOP is broken, seriously. Neocons flee. Game theory for the GOPe (note 1, 2). […]

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  142. My chef friend has said the first thing you teach an Hispanic immigrant kitchen helper is that in America we wash our hands after defecating.

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