The Unz Review - Mobile
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 TeasersiSteve Blog
Will Larry Summers Take the High Road or the Low Road in Fighting Political Correctness?
🔊 Listen RSS
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information



=>

Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • BShow CommentNext New CommentNext New Reply
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

As I’ve been saying for a long time, the crucial “swing vote” not in numbers but in influence are ethnocentric center-left Jews, such as Larry Summers. For example, the continued growth of political correctness, diversity, and, lately, BDS on campuses presents them with a dilemma over what’s good for the Jews: taking the high road and defending freedom of speech for all, even whites, or taking the low road and doubling down on insisting that Jews are the biggest victims of them all?

Larry Summers writes in the Washington Post.

Larry Summers: Colleges have become hypersensitive to racial prejudice. Why not anti-Semitism?

By Lawrence H. Summers March 31 at 10:13 AM

Lawrence H. Summers, the Charles W. Eliot university professor at Harvard, is a former treasury secretary and director of the National Economic Council in the White House. He is writing occasional posts on Wonkblog about issues of national and international economics and policymaking.

Larry was also president of Harvard U., but I guess we don’t talk about that anymore …

… It has seemed to me that a vast double standard regarding what constitutes prejudice exists on American college campuses. There is hypersensitivity to prejudice against most minority groups but what might be called hyper-insensitivity to anti-Semitism.

At Bowdoin College, holding parties with sombreros and tequila is deemed to be an act of prejudice against Mexicans. At Emory, the chalking of an endorsement of the likely Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump, on a sidewalk is deemed to require a review of security tapes. The existence of a college named after a widely admired former U.S. president has been condemned at Princeton, under the duress of a student occupation. At Yale, Halloween costumes are the subject of administrative edict. The dean of Harvard Law School has acknowledged that hers is a racist institution, while the freshman dean at Harvard College has used dinner place mats to propagandize the student body on aspects of diversity. Professors acquiesce as students insist that they not be exposed to views on issues, such as abortion, that make them uncomfortable.

Larry feints toward the high road:

As I have discussed in the past, this is in my view inconsistent with basic American values of free speech and open debate. It fails to recognize that a proper liberal education should cause moments of acute discomfort as cherished beliefs are challenged.

Larry actually tried debating feminists using masculine social constructs like facts and logic back in 2005 when he was president of Harvard, but how’d that work out for him?

So, he doubles down on the low road:

But, if comfort is elevated to be a preeminent value, the standard should be applied universally. Unfortunately, there is a clear exception made on most university campuses for anti-Semitic speech and acts. …

Instances of anti-Semitism by this standard are ubiquitous in American academic life. …

 
Hide 99 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to Ignore...to FollowEndorsed Only
    []
  1. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    He doesn’t have the excuse of worrying about getting fired. He’s tenured.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc.
    AgreeDisagreeLOLTroll
    These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Troll, or LOL with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used once per hour.
    Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
    Sharing Comment via Twitter
    /isteve/will-larry-summers-take-the-high-road-or-the-low-road-on-political-correctness/#comment-1375401
    More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  2. syonredux says:

    So, he doubles down on the low road:

    But, if comfort is elevated to be a preeminent value, the standard should be applied universally. Unfortunately, there is a clear exception made on most university campuses for anti-Semitic speech and acts. …

    Instances of anti-Semitism by this standard are ubiquitous in American academic life. …

    That’s what I’ve always said. Jewish elites will just double down. Remind everyone that Jews are eternal victims. Continue to push the sacralization of the Holocaust. And, even more importantly, remind non-Whites that there is no percentage in going after Jews. Do it, and grants and donations will dry up.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Olorin
    And to put some commas and dollar signs on your last sentence:

    http://ejewishphilanthropy.com/the-giving-pledge/
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  3. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    PC has told us that it’s ‘racist’ when whites do it, but it’s NOT ‘racist’ when non-whites do it.

    So, the same logic must apply. It is ‘antisemitic’ when whites do it, but it’s not ‘antisemitic’ when non-whites do it.

    We’ve been told that the powerless cannot be ‘racist’. Only powerful and privileged whites can be ‘racist’. Well, since non-whites have no power and privilege(or so we’ve been told), they cannot be ‘antisemitic’. They are punching up, not punching down…. because we know ONLY WHITE PEOPLE can be powerful and privileged. Indeed, according to the likes of Zakaria, a West Virginia hillbilly living in a trailer has more privilege than the Zak-man or some affluent white Hispanic Cuban.

    PS. Will Summers ever admit that all this ‘hypersensitivity’ was stoked by Jewish academics and activists to make non-whites hate whites? Well, too bad if non-whites(and guilt-ridden white Libs) see rich and powerful Jews as part of the white community and white problem.

    Read More
    • Agree: AndrewR
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  4. syonredux says:

    So, he doubles down on the low road:

    But, if comfort is elevated to be a preeminent value, the standard should be applied universally. Unfortunately, there is a clear exception made on most university campuses for anti-Semitic speech and acts. …

    Instances of anti-Semitism by this standard are ubiquitous in American academic life. …

    That’s what I’ve always said. Jewish elites will just double down. Remind everyone that Jews are eternal victims. Continue to push the sacralization of the Holocaust. And, even more importantly, remind non-Whites that there is no percentage in going after Jews. Do it, and grants and donations will dry up.No more invites to fancy seminars and congresses, etc

    Read More
    • Agree: BB753
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  5. Ben Kurtz says:

    I give him the slight benefit of the doubt. I read him as saying that free speech on campus is ideal, but given that it is now impossible – recall his defenestration over some harmless speculative remarks years ago, which you alluded to yourself – he just doesn’t want his people to end up on the “wrong side of history.”

    I think he’d find your supposition that the climate of stifling PC thought-control can be overturned if a few more good men join the fight to be charmingly naive. Aside from his own saga, he’s witnessing Donald Trump being heralded almost literally as the second coming of Hitler, for making policy pronouncements that would not raise a Republican eyebrow in Eisenhower or Ford’s time (deport all the illegal aliens; States should have the power to criminalize abortion, etc.).

    Now is the time for good men to go to ground, is the thinking. We’ll see how the year plays out; he may be right.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  6. Svigor says:

    … It has seemed to me that a vast double standard regarding what constitutes prejudice exists on American college campuses. There is hypersensitivity to prejudice against most minority groups but what might be called hyper-insensitivity to anti-Semitism.

    There’s a word for the special kind of shamelessness that it takes for a people to routinely lie like this. Oh yeah; chutzpah.

    Read More
    • Agree: Harold
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It's like the Big Lie thing where telling a real whopper works better because most people generally don't expect people to openly tell such big whoppers with a straight face.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  7. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  8. Whiskey says: • Website

    Doubling down is an obvious losing bet. Jews are the most hated of White people for their higher iqs. Blacks and Hispanics hate hate hate them with a fury like women for beta males.

    None so blind … Blacks and Hispanics are not like WASPS. WASPS are nearly on average as smart as Jews so lack the hate the stupid have for the smart.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anon
    Jews are hated because they're richer, smarter, but still beta people. Black and Hispanics can't stand it when someone who's not an alpha is higher than they are on the social totem pole despite their extreme cults of machismo, which they think should land them the alpha spot.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  9. I agree with Mr. Summers. Why is the press so quiet about the crimes of Wall Street insiders like Goldman Sachs, some of whose employees are gentiles, and hardly get a mention.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  10. Larry Summers is one of the wise and knowing cohort floating the idea of a cashless society, with a “foot in the door” tactic aimed at killing large bills to ‘fight crime/terrorism,’ ‘it’s to protect us,’ etc. It certainly wouldn’t be to control private funds and skim depositors’ electronic only legal tender through negative interest rates, coincidentally now also being more of a topic of discussion:

    Harvard University Professor Kenneth Rogoff discusses the idea of negative interest rates by central banks, the ability to fight inflation, and income inequality around the world. He speaks from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland on “Bloomberg Surveillance.”

    It should be obvious that if one wants to fight ‘anti-Semitic’ sentiments then, you know, don’t blatantly act according to stereotype.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  11. It has seemed to me that a vast double standard regarding what constitutes prejudice exists on American college campuses. There is hypersensitivity to prejudice against most minority groups but what might be called hyper-insensitivity to anti-Semitism.

    Change “anti-Semitism” to “anti-Whitism”, and he’s be 100% correct.

    Read More
    • Agree: Rob McX
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Yes, but "anti-Whitism" isn't even a word, so, according to Sapir-Whorf and the Newspeak Appendix to 1984, it can't really exist in our heads as something to be concerned about.
    , @ben tillman
    Not "he's". How embarrassing!

    "He'd" be correct.

    , @Glaivester
    I think a better term if you want to parallel antisemitism is antijaphetism.

    Antijaphetism is the hatred of white Gentiles, who are, according to Biblical tradition, descended from Japheth, as Jews are from Shem.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  12. @ben tillman

    It has seemed to me that a vast double standard regarding what constitutes prejudice exists on American college campuses. There is hypersensitivity to prejudice against most minority groups but what might be called hyper-insensitivity to anti-Semitism.
     
    Change "anti-Semitism" to "anti-Whitism", and he's be 100% correct.

    Yes, but “anti-Whitism” isn’t even a word, so, according to Sapir-Whorf and the Newspeak Appendix to 1984, it can’t really exist in our heads as something to be concerned about.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anonym
    "Anti-white" feels like it is gaining currency. "Anti-white racism" is also being seen more.
    , @syonredux

    Yes, but “anti-Whitism” isn’t even a word, so, according to Sapir-Whorf and the Newspeak Appendix to 1984, it can’t really exist in our heads as something to be concerned about.
     
    I've always thought that Orwell's most penetrating insight ( a product, perhaps, of his journalistic background) involved the supreme utility of short, snappy phrases as a way to shape the thought patterns of the Outer Party: thoughtcrime, sexcrime, doublethink, etc.

    Compare that to our current lexicon: Homophobia, transphobia, whitewashing, Orientalism, etc. There's no need to go through a cumbersome explanation about why it is vastly evil to cast a European as an Egyptian. Just call it whitewashing, and the good-thinkers will respond appropriately....
    , @SFG
    But of course it is a word--you just coined it. That's why Newspeak doesn't work perfectly.
    , @benjaminl
    Kind of like how "Red-baiting" and "race-baiting" are both words, whereas "brown-baiting" (i.e. the kind of "disavow the Nazis/KKK" that Trump has to deal with) is not a word.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  13. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Svigor

    … It has seemed to me that a vast double standard regarding what constitutes prejudice exists on American college campuses. There is hypersensitivity to prejudice against most minority groups but what might be called hyper-insensitivity to anti-Semitism.
     
    There's a word for the special kind of shamelessness that it takes for a people to routinely lie like this. Oh yeah; chutzpah.

    It’s like the Big Lie thing where telling a real whopper works better because most people generally don’t expect people to openly tell such big whoppers with a straight face.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  14. @ben tillman

    It has seemed to me that a vast double standard regarding what constitutes prejudice exists on American college campuses. There is hypersensitivity to prejudice against most minority groups but what might be called hyper-insensitivity to anti-Semitism.
     
    Change "anti-Semitism" to "anti-Whitism", and he's be 100% correct.

    Not “he’s”. How embarrassing!

    “He’d” be correct.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  15. Anonym says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Yes, but "anti-Whitism" isn't even a word, so, according to Sapir-Whorf and the Newspeak Appendix to 1984, it can't really exist in our heads as something to be concerned about.

    “Anti-white” feels like it is gaining currency. “Anti-white racism” is also being seen more.

    Read More
    • Replies: @PaddyPearse
    I like the term "anti-white animus" to describe these things. It's got a nice ring to it.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  16. If I am reading the headline correctly, he is saying that universities are overly sensitive to racism, so why not be overly sensitive to antisemitism too?

    Is that tongue in cheek?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  17. biz says:

    Summers hasn’t taken the low road. He says:

    But, if comfort is elevated to be a preeminent value, the standard should be applied universally.

    The if is important here. He isn’t endorsing PC, he’s saying that if we have to be PC then we should at least be consistent.

    Read More
    • Replies: @ben tillman

    The if is important here. He isn’t endorsing PC, he’s saying that if we have to be PC then we should at least be consistent.
     
    He's not saying that.

    PC is unprincipled; there are no principles to be applied consistently.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  18. Cagey Beast says: • Website

    I wonder who Larry Summers is even talking to when he writes an article like this? If Larry wants this crackdown on anti-Semitism to happen on campus then why not just pick up the phone, send out some e-mails and have some lunches with his social network? He has more pull in American academia than anyone reading that in the Washington Post, so why is he bothering us?

    Read More
    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    If Larry Summers was serious about stopping run away PC on campus he could stand shoulder to shoulder with fellow Jew Steven Pinker by joining the leadership of thefire.org

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcdFI6Sda0k

    https://www.thefire.org/three-reasons-affirm-free-speech-steven-pinkers-keynote-address-fires-15th-anniversary/

    After all Pinker was one of the few jews who came to Larry Summer's defence, famously in fact in The Blank Slate.

    Better yet Larry Summers could come out against Obama's nomination of the jew Garland Merrick to the SCOTUS. Because Summers knows dam well that Merrick will come out in full support of the constitutionality of "Hate Speech" laws once on the court.

    Good bye 1st Amendment!!!

    Summers is laying the ground work for the collapse of the Senate Cuckservatives in support of the Garland nomination. This will happen as soon as the deadline for Senate primary challenges passes on June 1st in states like WI and KS.

    The Cucks care more about protecting their rice bowls courtesy of the Jewish mega donors and stopping the Trump/Nationalist take over of the Republican party by defining their speech as hate.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  19. Have you noticed that we don’t see stories about the collapse, decline or decadence of Israel? And certainly not opinion pieces in elite journals about “the end of the era” for Jewish men.

    The socially disruptive effects of “climate change” on Israel’s neighbors also mysteriously seem to stop at Israel’s borders.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  20. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    There is no cosmic justice by some blind-folded being.

    All justice is chosen by People of Power or POP.

    And more often than not, justice(especially theories of ‘social justice’) is about power than morals or ethics.

    Those with an agenda look around and see who their enemy/rival is. And then, they look for whatever evidence of wrongdoing with which to target and smear and destroy that enemy/rival.

    Most issues of justice do not begin with genuine and sincere interest in justice. It begins with assessment of power.
    For example, when it comes to human rights violation, one could condemn Saudi Arabia just as easily as Hussein’s Iraq. But Saudi Arabia is a US ally. So, no need to look over there. Shhhhh. No need for invoking Justice against an ally.

    But Iraq was seen as enemy by Neocons who ruled Bush II regime. So, they look for all sorts of reasons. By speculation, we are told of WMD. By association, we are told maybe Hussein was linked with 9/11… or with future 9/11′s
    When Hussein was a US ally against Iran, all the evidence of his monstrosity never bothered anyone in the US government.

    And Russia? Zio-globalists saw it as an obstacle, so they needed issues of ‘justice’ to hit Russia with. So, they came up with stuff like persecution of Pussy Riot, no homo pride parades(that makes Russia the new Nazi Germany), bunch of lies about Sochi, bunch of lies about Ukraine, a mess engineered by the US.

    The fact is you can find dirt on anyone and any nation. We are all guilty of something. If I had the power, I could go after any of you for being a dirty, cruel, and foul pig-eater. You might say, ‘huh?’ And I would say, ‘pigs are smart creatures, and you sicko degenerates killed and ate them. So you must pay!!!’

    If there was another nation much much powerful than the US and if that nation wanted to invade and destroy the US, it could find endless reasons and excuses. “US illegally invaded Iraq.” “US aids and abets oppression of Palestinians.” “US is a ‘racist’ nation and blacks need to be saved from ‘evil racist’ cops.” “US uses Wall Street to rip off the entire world.” “US has WMD.” Or historical reasons: ‘genocide’ of Indians, slavery, US imperial wars, etc.

    Everyone did something wrong. So, if the government wanted to get any of us, it could if it really wanted to. All politicians are crooks and could be arrested for something.
    And we are all guilty of something. We could be guilty of history of slavery, imperialism, feudalism, savagery, barbarism, blasphemy, obscenity, intolerance, and etc. In the US, not making ‘gay wedding’ cakes is reason to destroy people.
    So, justice can be molded in any way by the powerful to target anyone.

    So, issues of justice are really issues of power.
    So, why did white folks come under special scrutiny by the ‘social justice’ agenda? Well, which group has been dominant in media and academia?
    These people saw white gentiles as the main enemy/rival, and that was the MAIN reason why they dug up and exaggerated all the evils committed by whites to morally paralyze whites.
    But if ‘anti-semites’ held the power, they could dig up all the bad things done by Jews and stick it to Jews.

    Justice is not independent of human bias and agendas. Justice is a matter of who gets to choose the targets, who gets to dig the dirt, who gets to accuse, who gets to decide, who gets to enforce.

    We saw how rules of justice changed with the rise of homos under wing of Jews.

    Justice is the excuse of the powerful to destroy its enemies.

    It sure was the case with Iraq. Neocons wanted Iraq destroyed, invoked international justice, dug up whatever ‘evidence’ it could, and pushed US into war.
    But if Palestinian-Americans had elite power in the US, it could do the same to Israel.
    It could accuse Israel of having been founded on ethnic cleansing, of occupation and colonization, of having used WMD against ‘innocent’ civilians, of having illegal nukes, etc.

    If you have the power, you get to decide the targets of ‘justice’.

    Justice in political realm is mostly a cudgel of the powerful against their perceived rivals/enemies.

    Read More
    • Agree: BB753
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  21. Glaivester says: • Website
    @ben tillman

    It has seemed to me that a vast double standard regarding what constitutes prejudice exists on American college campuses. There is hypersensitivity to prejudice against most minority groups but what might be called hyper-insensitivity to anti-Semitism.
     
    Change "anti-Semitism" to "anti-Whitism", and he's be 100% correct.

    I think a better term if you want to parallel antisemitism is antijaphetism.

    Antijaphetism is the hatred of white Gentiles, who are, according to Biblical tradition, descended from Japheth, as Jews are from Shem.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anon
    Europhobia.

    Scapegoy.

    Whites are scapegoyim.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  22. Doug says:

    > As I’ve been saying for a long time, the crucial “swing vote” not in numbers but in influence are ethnocentric center-left Jews, such as Larry Summers. For example, the continued growth of political correctness

    Jonathan Haidt seems to be an example of someone from this group, who’s clearly taking the high road on microagression culture.

    https://medium.com/conversations-with-tyler/a-conversation-with-jonathan-haidt-35f76604464a#.lcjv5oh5y

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  23. Aardvark says:

    Pretty soon, breathing air will be considered as depriving some other disadvantaged group of air. Can we just cut to the chase and acknowledge that because more than one person exists it is prejudiced and anti-whatever? This will help accelerate exhaustion over being offended by any others existence.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  24. Lot says:

    On the bright side, he is really using the language of anti-PC here. Is there anything within this paragraph that would be out of place in an Ann Coulter column?

    At Bowdoin College, holding parties with sombreros and tequila is deemed to be an act of prejudice against Mexicans. At Emory, the chalking of an endorsement of the likely Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump, on a sidewalk is deemed to require a review of security tapes. The existence of a college named after a widely admired former U.S. president has been condemned at Princeton, under the duress of a student occupation. At Yale, Halloween costumes are the subject of administrative edict. The dean of Harvard Law School has acknowledged that hers is a racist institution, while the freshman dean at Harvard College has used dinner place mats to propagandize the student body on aspects of diversity. Professors acquiesce as students insist that they not be exposed to views on issues, such as abortion, that make them uncomfortable.

    As I’ve been saying for a long time, the crucial “swing vote” not in numbers but in influence are ethnocentric center-left Jews, such as Larry Summers.

    I agree on the “swing vote” part. Not seeing much by the writers on Unz.com doing anything but alienate this group however (Derb excepted).

    Read More
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "I agree on the “swing vote” part. Not seeing much by the writers on Unz.com doing anything but alienate this group however (Derb excepted)."

    I'm not seeing that this swing group is doing much of anything other than alienating us.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  25. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Yes, but "anti-Whitism" isn't even a word, so, according to Sapir-Whorf and the Newspeak Appendix to 1984, it can't really exist in our heads as something to be concerned about.

    Yes, but “anti-Whitism” isn’t even a word, so, according to Sapir-Whorf and the Newspeak Appendix to 1984, it can’t really exist in our heads as something to be concerned about.

    I’ve always thought that Orwell’s most penetrating insight ( a product, perhaps, of his journalistic background) involved the supreme utility of short, snappy phrases as a way to shape the thought patterns of the Outer Party: thoughtcrime, sexcrime, doublethink, etc.

    Compare that to our current lexicon: Homophobia, transphobia, whitewashing, Orientalism, etc. There’s no need to go through a cumbersome explanation about why it is vastly evil to cast a European as an Egyptian. Just call it whitewashing, and the good-thinkers will respond appropriately….

    Read More
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I agree. And the term selected should sound profound and somewhat scientific, but not really make any sense. Just wtf does "transgendered" mean? That they can go back and forth at will? And I still don't get cisgendered although I know I am guilty of it.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  26. SPMoore8 says:

    We talked about this last week. The problem is that the Israeli government engages in policies and actions that many — including many Jews — do not think are in the best interests of the Jewish people.

    As a result there are going to be various motions, movements, and campaigns to influence the polices and actions of the Israeli government to get them to align with these other interests. This includes all sorts of things, including BDS. While it is true that some BDS advocates, perhaps many, want to see Israel “destroyed” (isn’t going to happen) the fact is that many people would like to see Israel change its policies, and to call that “anti-Semitic” is to say that criticism of the Israeli government, or campaigns to get that government to change its policies, are also “anti-Semitic.”

    However, that reasoning doesn’t work, because if the Israeli government were to shift course (say, by evacuating Gaza or parts of the WB, as they have done in the past), people like Summers, regardless of how they might feel, would insist that any criticism of these new policies, or attempts to influence them, were also “anti-Semitic.”

    If anything it reminds me of the logic of communists in the late ’30′s who were rabidly against Hitler, until the pact in August 1939, but then were OK with him, but then hated him again in June, 1941. That intelligent Jews cannot see how this is leading to cognitive dissonance and greater ultimate difficulties is beyond me.

    The WAPO article had many comments, I note one Jewish American rebutted Summers, and questioned America’s undying fealty to Israel. He was promptly dismissed by another poster as a “self-hating Jew”. It’s the same thing as denouncing anti-Israel activity as “anti-Semitic.” And it is a similarly vacuous and unanswerable defamation designed to enforce unanimity, nothing more.

    However the other point of this post, as per the supposed potential of eminent American Jews to change our national conversation about something: No. I think that is completely wrong-headed. I do believe American Jews have a lot of input on determining national attitudes about Israel and the Middle East generally. But not really about anything else.

    Most of the Jews I know at this point in my life are extremely conservative, whether they are observant or not. We’ve been talking about America’s decline for decades. Nothing has changed.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anon
    "Most of the Jews I know at this point in my life are extremely conservative, whether they are observant or not."

    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for 'gay marriage'.

    Among Jewish elites, hostility to Obama is higher.

    Jews are only conservative about Jewish power, identity, and nationhood.
    , @SFG
    Come on dude, look at the names in the NYT. Who's pushing all this gay marriage and feminism business? There's a reason Jewish comedians back in the fifties had all those jokes about Jewish women being nagging and bossy.

    Like a lot of things, it's complicated. A lot of them feel they have to support the underdog due to being oppressed for a long time, etc., and they're afraid of the Christian Right and neo-Nazis, so naturally they are always going to be on the left. That this happens to make them one of the few groups on the left with actual money and hence a lot of power in our corrupt political system...well, that's a nice bonus.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  27. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @SPMoore8
    We talked about this last week. The problem is that the Israeli government engages in policies and actions that many -- including many Jews -- do not think are in the best interests of the Jewish people.

    As a result there are going to be various motions, movements, and campaigns to influence the polices and actions of the Israeli government to get them to align with these other interests. This includes all sorts of things, including BDS. While it is true that some BDS advocates, perhaps many, want to see Israel "destroyed" (isn't going to happen) the fact is that many people would like to see Israel change its policies, and to call that "anti-Semitic" is to say that criticism of the Israeli government, or campaigns to get that government to change its policies, are also "anti-Semitic."

    However, that reasoning doesn't work, because if the Israeli government were to shift course (say, by evacuating Gaza or parts of the WB, as they have done in the past), people like Summers, regardless of how they might feel, would insist that any criticism of these new policies, or attempts to influence them, were also "anti-Semitic."

    If anything it reminds me of the logic of communists in the late '30's who were rabidly against Hitler, until the pact in August 1939, but then were OK with him, but then hated him again in June, 1941. That intelligent Jews cannot see how this is leading to cognitive dissonance and greater ultimate difficulties is beyond me.

    The WAPO article had many comments, I note one Jewish American rebutted Summers, and questioned America's undying fealty to Israel. He was promptly dismissed by another poster as a "self-hating Jew". It's the same thing as denouncing anti-Israel activity as "anti-Semitic." And it is a similarly vacuous and unanswerable defamation designed to enforce unanimity, nothing more.

    However the other point of this post, as per the supposed potential of eminent American Jews to change our national conversation about something: No. I think that is completely wrong-headed. I do believe American Jews have a lot of input on determining national attitudes about Israel and the Middle East generally. But not really about anything else.

    Most of the Jews I know at this point in my life are extremely conservative, whether they are observant or not. We've been talking about America's decline for decades. Nothing has changed.

    “Most of the Jews I know at this point in my life are extremely conservative, whether they are observant or not.”

    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for ‘gay marriage’.

    Among Jewish elites, hostility to Obama is higher.

    Jews are only conservative about Jewish power, identity, and nationhood.

    Read More
    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke.
    , @Judah Benjamin Hur

    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for ‘gay marriage’.

     

    69% of Jews voted for Obama, 30% voted for Romney. If the Orthodox keep growing at the same pace (4+ children vs. secular Jews below 2), Jews will be as conservative as Mormons in 50-75 years.
    , @Doug
    A lot of rich, old Jews vote Democrat because they've been doing so since the Kennedy administration. The same way that a lot of old white blue collar males in the Upper Midwest also do. In actuality they're about as culturally liberal as Archie Bunker. The Democratic party moved far to the their left a long time ago, but people are glacially slow to change party affiliation. Especially on the national level.

    Local elections are much more indicative of voters' actual preference, rather than self-image. Law and order Republicans, like Giuliani and Bloomberg, can win sweeping victories in New York City. Despite being widely despised by minorities in a city primarily composed of minorities. That's because of overwhelming support among middle-aged Jews, Italians and other ethnic whites. Strip away the national level embarrassment of being associated with young Earth creationists and pro-lifers, and middle-aged Jews jump at voting for conservatives.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  28. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Glaivester
    I think a better term if you want to parallel antisemitism is antijaphetism.

    Antijaphetism is the hatred of white Gentiles, who are, according to Biblical tradition, descended from Japheth, as Jews are from Shem.

    Europhobia.

    Scapegoy.

    Whites are scapegoyim.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  29. J.Ross says:

    We need to push the idea, especially with Jews, that there are essentially two moral schemas.
    Normal humans never advanced beyond tribalism, simple my word against yours, tiebroken by disproportionate genocidal centralized power. This is a result of quickly developing good centralized states.
    (It also explains why high IQ peoples would be averse to science and achievement: hairy barbarians and Chinese in all dynasties have consistently opposite ideas about sticking one’s neck out. The Chinese Henry Ford has probably been born a million times, and always chose harmony. There can be no science without objective verifiable truth, and getting your truth from anywhere but the current administration in an Asian government is not bright.)
    White people never got the hang of burying all living intellectuals alive, so we never had an Emperor Chin, and in fact we got to thinking that that sort of person was innately problematic. That’s not a result of superiority: we lucked into it through disorganization and violence. Part of the reason why is being universally armed barbarians who reject masters. One result of that pirate tavern situation is a morality that presupposes that we are still all armed and targeting any one person is a bad idea.
    Tribalist morality has nothing like this. The numbers of the tribe or the good will of the overlord are the only protection, and genocide is very much among the active options at all times.
    Jews need to get it into their heads that the best deal they ever got came from white Christians, and if they really want to discover how Yemenites learned to stoop their heads and not build their houses past a certain level, let them leave us for new Muslim masters — secular and equal are not among the diverse choices.
    This is our selling point as whites: we can be wrong, which enables us to be truly right.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  30. @biz
    Summers hasn't taken the low road. He says:

    But, if comfort is elevated to be a preeminent value, the standard should be applied universally.
     
    The if is important here. He isn't endorsing PC, he's saying that if we have to be PC then we should at least be consistent.

    The if is important here. He isn’t endorsing PC, he’s saying that if we have to be PC then we should at least be consistent.

    He’s not saying that.

    PC is unprincipled; there are no principles to be applied consistently.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  31. Rotten says:

    What will happen is a particularly obnoxious fellow, such as a Soros or Zuckerberg, or maybe even the state of Israel itself, will do something far leftist and obnoxious. They will get justifiably criticized for their obnoxious act, and the rest of the Jews will circle the wagons to protect that person out of their ethnocentric training.

    This instinct to rally around their tribesmen causes the most aggressive, most obnoxious fellow in the tribe to, in real world practice if not in private thoughts, dictate the public policy for the whole body.

    Tl;dr. Summers isn’t a swing vote and neither are the neocons.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  32. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Not a surprise. In the end, Europeans, whether in Europe or in the diaspora, can only count on themselves.

    Its time most whites understood that. That doesn’t mean we have tons of enemies, because in reality, we really don’t, but we have some. Nobody is going to advocate for us unless we do.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  33. Spmoore8 says:
    @Anon
    "Most of the Jews I know at this point in my life are extremely conservative, whether they are observant or not."

    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for 'gay marriage'.

    Among Jewish elites, hostility to Obama is higher.

    Jews are only conservative about Jewish power, identity, and nationhood.

    Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anon
    "Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke."

    I guess that is possible. Since middle school, I went to Jewish-heavy school, and the vast majority are Liberal Democrats.. except on issue of Israel.

    Jews I know hate, hate, hate Trump. They hate him.
    Some like Hillary. Some like Sanders. But most of them LOVE Israel. Sander's 'leftism' doesn't apply to Israel. No sirree. They are more rightwing about Israel than Pat Buchanan is about White America. But then Sanders himself is all gungho about Israel where he spent his kibbutzy days.

    I've grown up with this Jewish Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde stuff all my life, so it never surprises me. The same Jewish guy who will bring up Jim Crow and them poor poor Negroes will say stuff like 'those Arabs are savages, and they need a ruthless tyrant to keep them in place'. Some Jews I know did oppose the Iraq War but on those grounds. Arabs are savages and don't deserve democracy and can't handle it. But them poor poor Negroes down South denied of their rights...

    I'm convinced that most Jews got double-track minds. It may be their nomadic wandering experience all over the world that made them think sort of funny in a dualistic way. Some Jews must be aware of the contradictions, but some seem totally blind to it. It's like what Philip Weiss says about blinders on some Jews. I've encounted such mind-sets so often.
    https://youtu.be/mnvlGNo4GKY?t=10m43s

    It's like that scene in HEARTBREAK KID about 'there is no deceit in the cauliflower'. It's hilarious because Grodin who is praising the lack of deception is full of deception. On one level, he knows he's pulling a shtick, yet, on another level, it's like he really takes to heart the BS he's peddling. He believes in the con.
    Watching that scene was like dejavu and I kept thinking I swear I know someone on some occasion like that; I've been through this scene before. And it finally hit me! My sister is married to a Triber and he came visiting and the dinner table conservation was so much like that scene. He is praising my parents food, and it sounds so triber-ish. My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy... But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the 'brick wall' dad peering into that 'new york head' of his. It's a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don't find in most ethnic groups.

    When I'm with most ethinc groups, I'm dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it's two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.

    , @Reg Cæsar


    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for ‘gay marriage’.
     
    Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke.
     
    "Homophobia" is practically a Jewish invention:

    http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/homoot.html

    , @SFG
    Where do you meet these guys?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  34. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “Will Larry Summers Take the High Road or the Low Road in Fighting Political Correctness?”

    Oh, it’s quite possible to take both roads and many others as well at the same time. Tailor your message to the audience and all that. A sharp guy can surely keep mutually conflicting narratives in his mind and push them all. He wants to move things on all fronts in parallel, not just bore one tunnel. Alas, foolish consistency!

    Read More
    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    "A sharp guy can surely keep mutually conflicting narratives in his mind and push them all."
    Sick of ((sharp guys)), want more 'honest guys'.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  35. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Spmoore8
    Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke.

    “Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke.”

    I guess that is possible. Since middle school, I went to Jewish-heavy school, and the vast majority are Liberal Democrats.. except on issue of Israel.

    Jews I know hate, hate, hate Trump. They hate him.
    Some like Hillary. Some like Sanders. But most of them LOVE Israel. Sander’s ‘leftism’ doesn’t apply to Israel. No sirree. They are more rightwing about Israel than Pat Buchanan is about White America. But then Sanders himself is all gungho about Israel where he spent his kibbutzy days.

    I’ve grown up with this Jewish Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde stuff all my life, so it never surprises me. The same Jewish guy who will bring up Jim Crow and them poor poor Negroes will say stuff like ‘those Arabs are savages, and they need a ruthless tyrant to keep them in place’. Some Jews I know did oppose the Iraq War but on those grounds. Arabs are savages and don’t deserve democracy and can’t handle it. But them poor poor Negroes down South denied of their rights…

    I’m convinced that most Jews got double-track minds. It may be their nomadic wandering experience all over the world that made them think sort of funny in a dualistic way. Some Jews must be aware of the contradictions, but some seem totally blind to it. It’s like what Philip Weiss says about blinders on some Jews. I’ve encounted such mind-sets so often.

    https://youtu.be/mnvlGNo4GKY?t=10m43s

    It’s like that scene in HEARTBREAK KID about ‘there is no deceit in the cauliflower’. It’s hilarious because Grodin who is praising the lack of deception is full of deception. On one level, he knows he’s pulling a shtick, yet, on another level, it’s like he really takes to heart the BS he’s peddling. He believes in the con.
    Watching that scene was like dejavu and I kept thinking I swear I know someone on some occasion like that; I’ve been through this scene before. And it finally hit me! My sister is married to a Triber and he came visiting and the dinner table conservation was so much like that scene. He is praising my parents food, and it sounds so triber-ish. My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy… But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the ‘brick wall’ dad peering into that ‘new york head’ of his. It’s a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don’t find in most ethnic groups.

    When I’m with most ethinc groups, I’m dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it’s two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.

    Read More
    • Replies: @This Is Our Home

    My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy… But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the ‘brick wall’ dad peering into that ‘new york head’ of his. It’s a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don’t find in most ethnic groups.

    When I’m with most ethinc groups, I’m dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it’s two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.
     

    It is called charm and upper class Anglo Saxons practically invented it. It isn't dishonest but only cognizant of context and the depth of meaning of words. Stop being such a boor.
    , @Blobby5
    Yiddisher kop trumps goyisher kop every time, honed through centuries of hustling Slav peasants.
    , @Cwhatfuture
    In my experience about 2/3 of Jews are liberal. However about half of those liberal Jews are ambivalent towards Israel. Sanders is extremely ambivalent towards Israel, even hostile at times. There is a minority among the liberal Jews - I would guess at about 5 -10% - who are actively hostile to Israel. The ones who are Zionist and liberal are pretty much as you describe and they cannot see the contradiction.But when they do see it, they tend to move to the hostile to Israel category and not to the 1/3 non-liberal category.

    However the situation is fluid. Most of the liberal Jews intermarry as you yourself see. Their children will not be Jewish for the most part. Only the conservative Jews will remain Jews, although some will move to Israel I am guessing, over time.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  36. @Spmoore8
    Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke.

    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for ‘gay marriage’.

    Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke.

    “Homophobia” is practically a Jewish invention:

    http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/homoot.html

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  37. @Anon
    "Most of the Jews I know at this point in my life are extremely conservative, whether they are observant or not."

    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for 'gay marriage'.

    Among Jewish elites, hostility to Obama is higher.

    Jews are only conservative about Jewish power, identity, and nationhood.

    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for ‘gay marriage’.

    69% of Jews voted for Obama, 30% voted for Romney. If the Orthodox keep growing at the same pace (4+ children vs. secular Jews below 2), Jews will be as conservative as Mormons in 50-75 years.

    Read More
    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    Oh, a lot less than that - if Mormons keep drifting leftward at the current rate.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "69% of Jews voted for Obama, 30% voted for Romney. If the Orthodox keep growing at the same pace (4+ children vs. secular Jews below 2), Jews will be as conservative as Mormons in 50-75 years."

    So, 69% of Jews voted for a leftist Senator, who had massive backing from Wall Street, who delivered government mandated healthcare, and who was supportive of Israel, while 30% of them voted for a Governor of a leftist state, who had considerable backing from Wall Street, who delivered government mandated healthcare, and who is very, very supportive of Israel.

    Thanks for clearing up the enormous difference there.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  38. Racism no longer has a meaning. Not in the age of getting called racist for drinking tequila and wearing a sombrero at a Mexican theme night. It did used to have a meaning but I really can’t remember it. Like the words moron and imbecile, it used to succinctly describe something but has degenerated into a mindless and irrelevant insult.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  39. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Whiskey
    Doubling down is an obvious losing bet. Jews are the most hated of White people for their higher iqs. Blacks and Hispanics hate hate hate them with a fury like women for beta males.

    None so blind ... Blacks and Hispanics are not like WASPS. WASPS are nearly on average as smart as Jews so lack the hate the stupid have for the smart.

    Jews are hated because they’re richer, smarter, but still beta people. Black and Hispanics can’t stand it when someone who’s not an alpha is higher than they are on the social totem pole despite their extreme cults of machismo, which they think should land them the alpha spot.

    Read More
    • Replies: @SFG
    Generic white people are more beta than blacks. How many white guys you see strolling around with gold chains, etc. ? A few, particularly in West Asia, but in general...?

    Of course, the more beta the people, the more alpha the society--that's the irony. Organization beats muscle any time of day.
    , @Peter Meyer
    Exactly. Black contempt for Jews is mostly visceral. Contrast with their favorite type of white person: the gregarious, smooth-talking good ole' boy Southerner (e.g., Bill Clinton, so beloved by blacks that they transfer their loyalty to his ultra-WASPy, totally unlikeable ice queen of a wife). That, historically speaking, Jews have been good to blacks and Southerners have mostly oppressed blacks matters not at all; the typical neurotic and physically unimpressive Jew is repellent to black sensibilities, regardless of what Jews as a group have done for the civil rights movement or racial integration.
    , @Antonymous
    There's a beautiful exposition above of Jewish me-too-ism -- white when convenient and POC when not (revving up anti-semitism and hate speech codes) -- which goes some way toward explaining the ambivalence you address. Going straight for the pseudo-psych "betas" a/o "jealousy" explanation is pure smokescreen. Occam's butterknife and all that.

    There's extraordinary duplicity on display here -- a highly successful man defending not the society that enabled him, but doubling down on hate speech codes which 1) target the historic majority for prosecution and 2) exclude them from protection, even as they themselves become a minority.
    , @Olorin
    "Jews are...beta people."

    There's a word for that:

    Schtick.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  40. Doug says:
    @Anon
    "Most of the Jews I know at this point in my life are extremely conservative, whether they are observant or not."

    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for 'gay marriage'.

    Among Jewish elites, hostility to Obama is higher.

    Jews are only conservative about Jewish power, identity, and nationhood.

    A lot of rich, old Jews vote Democrat because they’ve been doing so since the Kennedy administration. The same way that a lot of old white blue collar males in the Upper Midwest also do. In actuality they’re about as culturally liberal as Archie Bunker. The Democratic party moved far to the their left a long time ago, but people are glacially slow to change party affiliation. Especially on the national level.

    Local elections are much more indicative of voters’ actual preference, rather than self-image. Law and order Republicans, like Giuliani and Bloomberg, can win sweeping victories in New York City. Despite being widely despised by minorities in a city primarily composed of minorities. That’s because of overwhelming support among middle-aged Jews, Italians and other ethnic whites. Strip away the national level embarrassment of being associated with young Earth creationists and pro-lifers, and middle-aged Jews jump at voting for conservatives.

    Read More
    • Replies: @SFG
    Only in places like New York, where they don't feel threatened by evangelical Christians. There's still a lot of the old ladies who believe it's their duty given their history of oppression to stand with the poor and disenfranchised, etc. (I don't know what Rahm Emanuel thinks--I haven't talked to the guy and I doubt he'd give me the time of day--but the middle and upper middle classes actually believe this PC BS.)
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  41. snorlax says:

    Any hope that Jews will turn right because of the left’s inevitable anti-Israel turn is wishful thinking. The anti-Israel agitation would have to last a very long time in order to radicalize them against the left. But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they’ll go down fast. South Africa couldn’t last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.

    So Israel will disappear in a puff of smoke and the opposite effect will happen—the Kristol and Frum types will go back to being leftists because they have no reason to be right-wingers anymore.

    Read More
    • Replies: @This Is Our Home

    But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they’ll go down fast. South Africa couldn’t last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.
     
    While I'm all up for pretending that this is the case, it actually isn't. The demographic differences between the two are huge. Jews are a majority in Israel. Whites were a small and divided minority in South Africa, with momentum only going to make them more so. Also the world is different and although the left has ever greater power over our countries, our countries have ever less power overall.
    , @SFg
    Yeah, in my younger years I kept waiting for it to happen but now I'm convinced they enjoy being the only group in the Democratic Party with money. Well, them and gays (yes, there's overlap) and rich feminists.

    Think about it--blacks, Latinos, Muslims? A lot of them don't have a lot of money or power. Easier to be the big rollers when you don't have all the other big business guys to compete with.

    , @biz

    But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they’ll go down fast. South Africa couldn’t last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.
     
    Dream on. The situation in Israel is very different than South Africa in just about every way that matters:

    a) Jews are not a minority in Israel, but rather 80% and growing. South African whites could not avoid the demographic writing on the wall, but in Israel Jews are the demographic writing on the wall.

    b) Israel has a prominent position in the global high-tech economy whereas South Africa was primarily a natural resource exporter. Natural resources get taken out of the ground no matter who is in charge, but if Jews leave Israel the Google and Intel and other research campuses there, will close, and hundreds of billions of dollars of investment will be lost.

    c) In spite of the endless banal and intellectually dishonest claims, Israel does not practice apartheid. Given that any visit to Israel or footage out of Israel shows Arabs, Druze, Circassians and other minorities attending the same universities, shopping at the same malls, going to the same beaches, and receiving the same social benefits as Jews, making the apartheid claim stick with anyone beyond the antisemitic far left or far right is a non-starter.

    d) In spite of the fantasies of Western leftists (and far rightists) the "Palestinian" Arabs are a bunch of tribes, sects, and families who absolutely hate each other. They can't even run a partial government completely supported by international welfare. They are simply unable to take out a modern sophisticated nation-state and win.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  42. @Anon
    "Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke."

    I guess that is possible. Since middle school, I went to Jewish-heavy school, and the vast majority are Liberal Democrats.. except on issue of Israel.

    Jews I know hate, hate, hate Trump. They hate him.
    Some like Hillary. Some like Sanders. But most of them LOVE Israel. Sander's 'leftism' doesn't apply to Israel. No sirree. They are more rightwing about Israel than Pat Buchanan is about White America. But then Sanders himself is all gungho about Israel where he spent his kibbutzy days.

    I've grown up with this Jewish Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde stuff all my life, so it never surprises me. The same Jewish guy who will bring up Jim Crow and them poor poor Negroes will say stuff like 'those Arabs are savages, and they need a ruthless tyrant to keep them in place'. Some Jews I know did oppose the Iraq War but on those grounds. Arabs are savages and don't deserve democracy and can't handle it. But them poor poor Negroes down South denied of their rights...

    I'm convinced that most Jews got double-track minds. It may be their nomadic wandering experience all over the world that made them think sort of funny in a dualistic way. Some Jews must be aware of the contradictions, but some seem totally blind to it. It's like what Philip Weiss says about blinders on some Jews. I've encounted such mind-sets so often.
    https://youtu.be/mnvlGNo4GKY?t=10m43s

    It's like that scene in HEARTBREAK KID about 'there is no deceit in the cauliflower'. It's hilarious because Grodin who is praising the lack of deception is full of deception. On one level, he knows he's pulling a shtick, yet, on another level, it's like he really takes to heart the BS he's peddling. He believes in the con.
    Watching that scene was like dejavu and I kept thinking I swear I know someone on some occasion like that; I've been through this scene before. And it finally hit me! My sister is married to a Triber and he came visiting and the dinner table conservation was so much like that scene. He is praising my parents food, and it sounds so triber-ish. My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy... But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the 'brick wall' dad peering into that 'new york head' of his. It's a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don't find in most ethnic groups.

    When I'm with most ethinc groups, I'm dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it's two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.

    My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy… But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the ‘brick wall’ dad peering into that ‘new york head’ of his. It’s a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don’t find in most ethnic groups.

    When I’m with most ethinc groups, I’m dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it’s two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.

    It is called charm and upper class Anglo Saxons practically invented it. It isn’t dishonest but only cognizant of context and the depth of meaning of words. Stop being such a boor.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anon
    "Stop being such a boor."

    There is no deceit in boorishness.
    , @SFG
    Any group that makes its living in business (and that includes WASPs and Jews, and countless groups in Asia I can't name) is going to get good at lying.

    I've only noticed this because I suck at it myself.

    , @Anonymous
    Charm is associated with folks like, say, the Irish, not upper class English who were traditionally regarded as cold.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  43. @snorlax
    Any hope that Jews will turn right because of the left's inevitable anti-Israel turn is wishful thinking. The anti-Israel agitation would have to last a very long time in order to radicalize them against the left. But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they'll go down fast. South Africa couldn't last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.

    So Israel will disappear in a puff of smoke and the opposite effect will happen—the Kristol and Frum types will go back to being leftists because they have no reason to be right-wingers anymore.

    But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they’ll go down fast. South Africa couldn’t last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.

    While I’m all up for pretending that this is the case, it actually isn’t. The demographic differences between the two are huge. Jews are a majority in Israel. Whites were a small and divided minority in South Africa, with momentum only going to make them more so. Also the world is different and although the left has ever greater power over our countries, our countries have ever less power overall.

    Read More
    • Replies: @snorlax
    Yes, South Africa was weaker in a lot of ways than Israel is (although, even with sanctions, they could've maintained their system indefinitely if they had the political will).

    But Israel is weaker than South Africa, too. It's far less self-sufficient in terms of agriculture and mining, and while they have a possible solution to that problem (invade their neighbors; take their farmland and oil), they likewise almost certainly don't have the political will. And they're very unlikely to have a Reagan/Thatcher to veto sanctions and run interference for them—just the opposite.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  44. Jews aren’t very smart – fact. I was in France during the “Merkel Boner” last year, hosted by a Jewish family I have known for a few years. They are reasonably wealthy (certainly by French standards), quite well educated and I wouldn’t say terribly politically correct. The husband thought that importing these Syrians could be a real problem. When I pushed him, he thought they ought to be kept out. The wife (who acknowledged that Muslims had made parts of Paris and other cities off limits for Jews) was ranting against the Hungarians for being “utter fascists.” Then 13 November happened and I was on my way to Dubai for a holiday. I called to check how they were doing. She was ranting against the Terrorists calling them “dumb” but yet no acknowledgement that they were invited by her “line of thinking” in the first place.

    I met them again recently, and she wanted ALL North African and Arab Muslims in France deported if they also had Algerian/Moroccan/Syrian passports. I was almost stunned. But anyway, they were packing off to Israel.

    Jewish women (or all Western women these days?) are hyper-emotional, with far too much desire to dominate everything and are simply unsuited for politics. I would extend that to say that any society that puts women at the centre of the decision-making process is going to become extinct. There is a reason why every society on earth traditionally (until the 20th century) had men run politics and women run the household. Unfortunately, Western men have become as bad as the women these days.

    Read More
    • Replies: @SFG
    Not too smart? Seems like he saw the writing on the wall to begin with, and she was a little later to come around.

    If you mean 'fooled by ideology into believing dumb things', well, remember Marxism?
    , @Blobby5
    I too am sadly coming to that conclusion, just look at what they watch while on the treadmill at the gym. Evidently when they go against a hypothetical abortion law they also shouldn't be penalized, how about for speeding?
    , @Yngvar

    Jewish women (or all Western women these days?) are hyper-emotional, [...] and are simply unsuited for politics.
     
    The ones that rise to the top - the crème - isn't and are.
    , @Cwhatfuture
    They are packing off from France to Israel?

    They sound smart to me.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  45. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @This Is Our Home

    My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy… But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the ‘brick wall’ dad peering into that ‘new york head’ of his. It’s a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don’t find in most ethnic groups.

    When I’m with most ethinc groups, I’m dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it’s two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.
     

    It is called charm and upper class Anglo Saxons practically invented it. It isn't dishonest but only cognizant of context and the depth of meaning of words. Stop being such a boor.

    “Stop being such a boor.”

    There is no deceit in boorishness.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  46. @anonymous
    "Will Larry Summers Take the High Road or the Low Road in Fighting Political Correctness?"

    Oh, it's quite possible to take both roads and many others as well at the same time. Tailor your message to the audience and all that. A sharp guy can surely keep mutually conflicting narratives in his mind and push them all. He wants to move things on all fronts in parallel, not just bore one tunnel. Alas, foolish consistency!

    “A sharp guy can surely keep mutually conflicting narratives in his mind and push them all.”
    Sick of ((sharp guys)), want more ‘honest guys’.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  47. @Cagey Beast
    I wonder who Larry Summers is even talking to when he writes an article like this? If Larry wants this crackdown on anti-Semitism to happen on campus then why not just pick up the phone, send out some e-mails and have some lunches with his social network? He has more pull in American academia than anyone reading that in the Washington Post, so why is he bothering us?

    If Larry Summers was serious about stopping run away PC on campus he could stand shoulder to shoulder with fellow Jew Steven Pinker by joining the leadership of thefire.org

    https://www.thefire.org/three-reasons-affirm-free-speech-steven-pinkers-keynote-address-fires-15th-anniversary/

    After all Pinker was one of the few jews who came to Larry Summer’s defence, famously in fact in The Blank Slate.

    Better yet Larry Summers could come out against Obama’s nomination of the jew Garland Merrick to the SCOTUS. Because Summers knows dam well that Merrick will come out in full support of the constitutionality of “Hate Speech” laws once on the court.

    Good bye 1st Amendment!!!

    Summers is laying the ground work for the collapse of the Senate Cuckservatives in support of the Garland nomination. This will happen as soon as the deadline for Senate primary challenges passes on June 1st in states like WI and KS.

    The Cucks care more about protecting their rice bowls courtesy of the Jewish mega donors and stopping the Trump/Nationalist take over of the Republican party by defining their speech as hate.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  48. but how’d that work out for him?

    I thought he quit.

    Was I wrong?

    Did he actually chain himself to the desk and wait for the police to carry him out?

    Yeah.

    That’s what I thought.

    We used to call that cowardice and giving in. Now, it’s a no-name thing that happens to perfectly honest chaps who haven’t done anything wrong, honest.

    Coward!!!

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  49. SFG says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Yes, but "anti-Whitism" isn't even a word, so, according to Sapir-Whorf and the Newspeak Appendix to 1984, it can't really exist in our heads as something to be concerned about.

    But of course it is a word–you just coined it. That’s why Newspeak doesn’t work perfectly.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  50. SFG says:
    @Charles Martel
    Jews aren't very smart - fact. I was in France during the "Merkel Boner" last year, hosted by a Jewish family I have known for a few years. They are reasonably wealthy (certainly by French standards), quite well educated and I wouldn't say terribly politically correct. The husband thought that importing these Syrians could be a real problem. When I pushed him, he thought they ought to be kept out. The wife (who acknowledged that Muslims had made parts of Paris and other cities off limits for Jews) was ranting against the Hungarians for being "utter fascists." Then 13 November happened and I was on my way to Dubai for a holiday. I called to check how they were doing. She was ranting against the Terrorists calling them "dumb" but yet no acknowledgement that they were invited by her "line of thinking" in the first place.

    I met them again recently, and she wanted ALL North African and Arab Muslims in France deported if they also had Algerian/Moroccan/Syrian passports. I was almost stunned. But anyway, they were packing off to Israel.

    Jewish women (or all Western women these days?) are hyper-emotional, with far too much desire to dominate everything and are simply unsuited for politics. I would extend that to say that any society that puts women at the centre of the decision-making process is going to become extinct. There is a reason why every society on earth traditionally (until the 20th century) had men run politics and women run the household. Unfortunately, Western men have become as bad as the women these days.

    Not too smart? Seems like he saw the writing on the wall to begin with, and she was a little later to come around.

    If you mean ‘fooled by ideology into believing dumb things’, well, remember Marxism?

    Read More
    • Replies: @Charles Martel
    My friend's wife is a highly strung, emotional idiot. She grew up in Paris and has seen the effects of immigration from the Middle East for DECADES (she is in her late 60's). Is that not enough experience to figure out this is a bad idea? I remember hosting some French guests 20 years ago and they were complaining bitterly about the Arabs and North Africans. So, no, I don't buy this. Actually, if it wasn't for the horrific nature of the attacks that occurred in Paris (too close to home and scared the Bejesus out of her), she would continue prattling with her pro-immigration nonsense.

    Jews are very capable of being delusional, suicidal and extremely stupid. And sometimes, the more success they have, the dumber their ideas get. In Europe, generally speaking, they have now had enough time to figure out that massive Muslim immigration means the end for them in Europe - this means massive relocation costs, breaking up of ties that bind them with people in various countries etc. My Jewish friends locating to Israel will soon find that Israel is more alien to them than they thought. The culture is very different from France. Although nominally Jewish, they are really French. And also, they are getting out now but for those that wait longer, the cost will be higher as the urge to get out spreads to larger and larger sections of the Jewish and non-Jewish populations.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  51. SFg says:
    @snorlax
    Any hope that Jews will turn right because of the left's inevitable anti-Israel turn is wishful thinking. The anti-Israel agitation would have to last a very long time in order to radicalize them against the left. But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they'll go down fast. South Africa couldn't last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.

    So Israel will disappear in a puff of smoke and the opposite effect will happen—the Kristol and Frum types will go back to being leftists because they have no reason to be right-wingers anymore.

    Yeah, in my younger years I kept waiting for it to happen but now I’m convinced they enjoy being the only group in the Democratic Party with money. Well, them and gays (yes, there’s overlap) and rich feminists.

    Think about it–blacks, Latinos, Muslims? A lot of them don’t have a lot of money or power. Easier to be the big rollers when you don’t have all the other big business guys to compete with.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  52. SFG says:
    @Doug
    A lot of rich, old Jews vote Democrat because they've been doing so since the Kennedy administration. The same way that a lot of old white blue collar males in the Upper Midwest also do. In actuality they're about as culturally liberal as Archie Bunker. The Democratic party moved far to the their left a long time ago, but people are glacially slow to change party affiliation. Especially on the national level.

    Local elections are much more indicative of voters' actual preference, rather than self-image. Law and order Republicans, like Giuliani and Bloomberg, can win sweeping victories in New York City. Despite being widely despised by minorities in a city primarily composed of minorities. That's because of overwhelming support among middle-aged Jews, Italians and other ethnic whites. Strip away the national level embarrassment of being associated with young Earth creationists and pro-lifers, and middle-aged Jews jump at voting for conservatives.

    Only in places like New York, where they don’t feel threatened by evangelical Christians. There’s still a lot of the old ladies who believe it’s their duty given their history of oppression to stand with the poor and disenfranchised, etc. (I don’t know what Rahm Emanuel thinks–I haven’t talked to the guy and I doubt he’d give me the time of day–but the middle and upper middle classes actually believe this PC BS.)

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  53. SFG says:
    @Anon
    Jews are hated because they're richer, smarter, but still beta people. Black and Hispanics can't stand it when someone who's not an alpha is higher than they are on the social totem pole despite their extreme cults of machismo, which they think should land them the alpha spot.

    Generic white people are more beta than blacks. How many white guys you see strolling around with gold chains, etc. ? A few, particularly in West Asia, but in general…?

    Of course, the more beta the people, the more alpha the society–that’s the irony. Organization beats muscle any time of day.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  54. SFG says:
    @This Is Our Home

    My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy… But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the ‘brick wall’ dad peering into that ‘new york head’ of his. It’s a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don’t find in most ethnic groups.

    When I’m with most ethinc groups, I’m dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it’s two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.
     

    It is called charm and upper class Anglo Saxons practically invented it. It isn't dishonest but only cognizant of context and the depth of meaning of words. Stop being such a boor.

    Any group that makes its living in business (and that includes WASPs and Jews, and countless groups in Asia I can’t name) is going to get good at lying.

    I’ve only noticed this because I suck at it myself.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  55. SFG says:
    @Spmoore8
    Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke.

    Where do you meet these guys?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  56. SFG says:
    @SPMoore8
    We talked about this last week. The problem is that the Israeli government engages in policies and actions that many -- including many Jews -- do not think are in the best interests of the Jewish people.

    As a result there are going to be various motions, movements, and campaigns to influence the polices and actions of the Israeli government to get them to align with these other interests. This includes all sorts of things, including BDS. While it is true that some BDS advocates, perhaps many, want to see Israel "destroyed" (isn't going to happen) the fact is that many people would like to see Israel change its policies, and to call that "anti-Semitic" is to say that criticism of the Israeli government, or campaigns to get that government to change its policies, are also "anti-Semitic."

    However, that reasoning doesn't work, because if the Israeli government were to shift course (say, by evacuating Gaza or parts of the WB, as they have done in the past), people like Summers, regardless of how they might feel, would insist that any criticism of these new policies, or attempts to influence them, were also "anti-Semitic."

    If anything it reminds me of the logic of communists in the late '30's who were rabidly against Hitler, until the pact in August 1939, but then were OK with him, but then hated him again in June, 1941. That intelligent Jews cannot see how this is leading to cognitive dissonance and greater ultimate difficulties is beyond me.

    The WAPO article had many comments, I note one Jewish American rebutted Summers, and questioned America's undying fealty to Israel. He was promptly dismissed by another poster as a "self-hating Jew". It's the same thing as denouncing anti-Israel activity as "anti-Semitic." And it is a similarly vacuous and unanswerable defamation designed to enforce unanimity, nothing more.

    However the other point of this post, as per the supposed potential of eminent American Jews to change our national conversation about something: No. I think that is completely wrong-headed. I do believe American Jews have a lot of input on determining national attitudes about Israel and the Middle East generally. But not really about anything else.

    Most of the Jews I know at this point in my life are extremely conservative, whether they are observant or not. We've been talking about America's decline for decades. Nothing has changed.

    Come on dude, look at the names in the NYT. Who’s pushing all this gay marriage and feminism business? There’s a reason Jewish comedians back in the fifties had all those jokes about Jewish women being nagging and bossy.

    Like a lot of things, it’s complicated. A lot of them feel they have to support the underdog due to being oppressed for a long time, etc., and they’re afraid of the Christian Right and neo-Nazis, so naturally they are always going to be on the left. That this happens to make them one of the few groups on the left with actual money and hence a lot of power in our corrupt political system…well, that’s a nice bonus.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  57. Blobby5 says:
    @Anon
    "Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke."

    I guess that is possible. Since middle school, I went to Jewish-heavy school, and the vast majority are Liberal Democrats.. except on issue of Israel.

    Jews I know hate, hate, hate Trump. They hate him.
    Some like Hillary. Some like Sanders. But most of them LOVE Israel. Sander's 'leftism' doesn't apply to Israel. No sirree. They are more rightwing about Israel than Pat Buchanan is about White America. But then Sanders himself is all gungho about Israel where he spent his kibbutzy days.

    I've grown up with this Jewish Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde stuff all my life, so it never surprises me. The same Jewish guy who will bring up Jim Crow and them poor poor Negroes will say stuff like 'those Arabs are savages, and they need a ruthless tyrant to keep them in place'. Some Jews I know did oppose the Iraq War but on those grounds. Arabs are savages and don't deserve democracy and can't handle it. But them poor poor Negroes down South denied of their rights...

    I'm convinced that most Jews got double-track minds. It may be their nomadic wandering experience all over the world that made them think sort of funny in a dualistic way. Some Jews must be aware of the contradictions, but some seem totally blind to it. It's like what Philip Weiss says about blinders on some Jews. I've encounted such mind-sets so often.
    https://youtu.be/mnvlGNo4GKY?t=10m43s

    It's like that scene in HEARTBREAK KID about 'there is no deceit in the cauliflower'. It's hilarious because Grodin who is praising the lack of deception is full of deception. On one level, he knows he's pulling a shtick, yet, on another level, it's like he really takes to heart the BS he's peddling. He believes in the con.
    Watching that scene was like dejavu and I kept thinking I swear I know someone on some occasion like that; I've been through this scene before. And it finally hit me! My sister is married to a Triber and he came visiting and the dinner table conservation was so much like that scene. He is praising my parents food, and it sounds so triber-ish. My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy... But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the 'brick wall' dad peering into that 'new york head' of his. It's a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don't find in most ethnic groups.

    When I'm with most ethinc groups, I'm dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it's two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.

    Yiddisher kop trumps goyisher kop every time, honed through centuries of hustling Slav peasants.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  58. Blobby5 says:
    @Charles Martel
    Jews aren't very smart - fact. I was in France during the "Merkel Boner" last year, hosted by a Jewish family I have known for a few years. They are reasonably wealthy (certainly by French standards), quite well educated and I wouldn't say terribly politically correct. The husband thought that importing these Syrians could be a real problem. When I pushed him, he thought they ought to be kept out. The wife (who acknowledged that Muslims had made parts of Paris and other cities off limits for Jews) was ranting against the Hungarians for being "utter fascists." Then 13 November happened and I was on my way to Dubai for a holiday. I called to check how they were doing. She was ranting against the Terrorists calling them "dumb" but yet no acknowledgement that they were invited by her "line of thinking" in the first place.

    I met them again recently, and she wanted ALL North African and Arab Muslims in France deported if they also had Algerian/Moroccan/Syrian passports. I was almost stunned. But anyway, they were packing off to Israel.

    Jewish women (or all Western women these days?) are hyper-emotional, with far too much desire to dominate everything and are simply unsuited for politics. I would extend that to say that any society that puts women at the centre of the decision-making process is going to become extinct. There is a reason why every society on earth traditionally (until the 20th century) had men run politics and women run the household. Unfortunately, Western men have become as bad as the women these days.

    I too am sadly coming to that conclusion, just look at what they watch while on the treadmill at the gym. Evidently when they go against a hypothetical abortion law they also shouldn’t be penalized, how about for speeding?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  59. Yngvar says:
    @Charles Martel
    Jews aren't very smart - fact. I was in France during the "Merkel Boner" last year, hosted by a Jewish family I have known for a few years. They are reasonably wealthy (certainly by French standards), quite well educated and I wouldn't say terribly politically correct. The husband thought that importing these Syrians could be a real problem. When I pushed him, he thought they ought to be kept out. The wife (who acknowledged that Muslims had made parts of Paris and other cities off limits for Jews) was ranting against the Hungarians for being "utter fascists." Then 13 November happened and I was on my way to Dubai for a holiday. I called to check how they were doing. She was ranting against the Terrorists calling them "dumb" but yet no acknowledgement that they were invited by her "line of thinking" in the first place.

    I met them again recently, and she wanted ALL North African and Arab Muslims in France deported if they also had Algerian/Moroccan/Syrian passports. I was almost stunned. But anyway, they were packing off to Israel.

    Jewish women (or all Western women these days?) are hyper-emotional, with far too much desire to dominate everything and are simply unsuited for politics. I would extend that to say that any society that puts women at the centre of the decision-making process is going to become extinct. There is a reason why every society on earth traditionally (until the 20th century) had men run politics and women run the household. Unfortunately, Western men have become as bad as the women these days.

    Jewish women (or all Western women these days?) are hyper-emotional, [...] and are simply unsuited for politics.

    The ones that rise to the top – the crème – isn’t and are.

    Read More
    • Replies: @dcite
    True. I think women in the high reaches of politics -- not local politics -- are much further removed from the average female in emotions, concerns, and personalities, than are male politicians (however lofty their position) from the average male in these areas.
    That said, Barbara Mikulski is reasonably good, although my father remembered her as having a very foul mouth; otherwise he seemed to like her. He was in the Democratic Club though. She actually has responded to requests for help from her constituents in significant ways.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  60. snorlax says:
    @This Is Our Home

    But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they’ll go down fast. South Africa couldn’t last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.
     
    While I'm all up for pretending that this is the case, it actually isn't. The demographic differences between the two are huge. Jews are a majority in Israel. Whites were a small and divided minority in South Africa, with momentum only going to make them more so. Also the world is different and although the left has ever greater power over our countries, our countries have ever less power overall.

    Yes, South Africa was weaker in a lot of ways than Israel is (although, even with sanctions, they could’ve maintained their system indefinitely if they had the political will).

    But Israel is weaker than South Africa, too. It’s far less self-sufficient in terms of agriculture and mining, and while they have a possible solution to that problem (invade their neighbors; take their farmland and oil), they likewise almost certainly don’t have the political will. And they’re very unlikely to have a Reagan/Thatcher to veto sanctions and run interference for them—just the opposite.

    Read More
    • Replies: @This Is Our Home
    There'll always be China and India.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  61. biz says:
    @snorlax
    Any hope that Jews will turn right because of the left's inevitable anti-Israel turn is wishful thinking. The anti-Israel agitation would have to last a very long time in order to radicalize them against the left. But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they'll go down fast. South Africa couldn't last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.

    So Israel will disappear in a puff of smoke and the opposite effect will happen—the Kristol and Frum types will go back to being leftists because they have no reason to be right-wingers anymore.

    But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they’ll go down fast. South Africa couldn’t last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.

    Dream on. The situation in Israel is very different than South Africa in just about every way that matters:

    a) Jews are not a minority in Israel, but rather 80% and growing. South African whites could not avoid the demographic writing on the wall, but in Israel Jews are the demographic writing on the wall.

    b) Israel has a prominent position in the global high-tech economy whereas South Africa was primarily a natural resource exporter. Natural resources get taken out of the ground no matter who is in charge, but if Jews leave Israel the Google and Intel and other research campuses there, will close, and hundreds of billions of dollars of investment will be lost.

    c) In spite of the endless banal and intellectually dishonest claims, Israel does not practice apartheid. Given that any visit to Israel or footage out of Israel shows Arabs, Druze, Circassians and other minorities attending the same universities, shopping at the same malls, going to the same beaches, and receiving the same social benefits as Jews, making the apartheid claim stick with anyone beyond the antisemitic far left or far right is a non-starter.

    d) In spite of the fantasies of Western leftists (and far rightists) the “Palestinian” Arabs are a bunch of tribes, sects, and families who absolutely hate each other. They can’t even run a partial government completely supported by international welfare. They are simply unable to take out a modern sophisticated nation-state and win.

    Read More
    • Replies: @syonredux

    c) In spite of the endless banal and intellectually dishonest claims, Israel does not practice apartheid. Given that any visit to Israel or footage out of Israel shows Arabs, Druze, Circassians and other minorities attending the same universities, shopping at the same malls, going to the same beaches, and receiving the same social benefits as Jews, making the apartheid claim stick with anyone beyond the antisemitic far left or far right is a non-starter.
     
    Be more correct to characterize Israel as a Jewish Supremacist state.And Jews intend to keep it that way (no mass immigration/open borders for Israel-ever)
    , @5371
    I doubt there have been hundreds of billions of dollars of foreign investment in the "high-tech" economy of Israel. I think you have added zeroes.
    , @MQ
    Jews are actually more like half (or even less) of the population within Israeli control, not 80%. Israeli apologists love to talk as if Israeli citizens are the only Arabs who are at issue, when in fact the major issue is the Palestinians on the West Bank and Gaza Strip who are completely under Israeli control but have no citizenship and no rights. Calculating Jewish demographic shares while ignoring that population is like South Africa claiming that huge numbers of blacks were not South African but instead citizens of the various Bantustans that the SA government had set up.

    And it is reasonable to call Israel an apartheid state. There is a very high level of de facto segregation between Arabs and Jews in housing and schooling even when it comes to Israeli Arab citizens in the pre-67 borders. And of course there is rigid, absolute, militarily controlled segregation of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

    There are certainly plenty of differences between SA and Israel, as between any two countries, but there are also many parallels. The two countries were very friendly indeed when SA was under white rule.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  62. @Anon
    Jews are hated because they're richer, smarter, but still beta people. Black and Hispanics can't stand it when someone who's not an alpha is higher than they are on the social totem pole despite their extreme cults of machismo, which they think should land them the alpha spot.

    Exactly. Black contempt for Jews is mostly visceral. Contrast with their favorite type of white person: the gregarious, smooth-talking good ole’ boy Southerner (e.g., Bill Clinton, so beloved by blacks that they transfer their loyalty to his ultra-WASPy, totally unlikeable ice queen of a wife). That, historically speaking, Jews have been good to blacks and Southerners have mostly oppressed blacks matters not at all; the typical neurotic and physically unimpressive Jew is repellent to black sensibilities, regardless of what Jews as a group have done for the civil rights movement or racial integration.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  63. @Anonym
    "Anti-white" feels like it is gaining currency. "Anti-white racism" is also being seen more.

    I like the term “anti-white animus” to describe these things. It’s got a nice ring to it.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  64. “If Larry Summers was serious about stopping run away PC on campus ..”

    What ethnic group is amply represented in the administration and faculty of American U’s?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  65. dcite says:
    @Yngvar

    Jewish women (or all Western women these days?) are hyper-emotional, [...] and are simply unsuited for politics.
     
    The ones that rise to the top - the crème - isn't and are.

    True. I think women in the high reaches of politics — not local politics — are much further removed from the average female in emotions, concerns, and personalities, than are male politicians (however lofty their position) from the average male in these areas.
    That said, Barbara Mikulski is reasonably good, although my father remembered her as having a very foul mouth; otherwise he seemed to like her. He was in the Democratic Club though. She actually has responded to requests for help from her constituents in significant ways.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  66. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @This Is Our Home

    My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy… But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the ‘brick wall’ dad peering into that ‘new york head’ of his. It’s a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don’t find in most ethnic groups.

    When I’m with most ethinc groups, I’m dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it’s two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.
     

    It is called charm and upper class Anglo Saxons practically invented it. It isn't dishonest but only cognizant of context and the depth of meaning of words. Stop being such a boor.

    Charm is associated with folks like, say, the Irish, not upper class English who were traditionally regarded as cold.

    Read More
    • Replies: @This Is Our Home
    What low brow source do you get your cultural references from?
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Charm is associated with folks like, say, the Irish, not upper class English who were traditionally regarded as cold."

    There is a difference between charm and effusiveness that you apparently don't understand.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  67. Dear Jew,

    So, spending the last half century suppressing identity politics among White males, while simultaneously promoting identity politics among everyone else, isn’t working out like you had hoped? Man, I really feel bad about that. Who could have foreseen that there might be drawbacks?

    Read More
    • Replies: @rod1963
    They aren't as smart as they think. Their abject hatred of whites have blinded them. But it won't stop them. They'll keep on supporting Islam until one day all that flow of money to Israel which keeps it alive ceases or the Muzzies figure out where the Jews reside in the West and directly target them. Which will happen as the Muzzies learn better targeting strategies.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  68. @Anon
    Jews are hated because they're richer, smarter, but still beta people. Black and Hispanics can't stand it when someone who's not an alpha is higher than they are on the social totem pole despite their extreme cults of machismo, which they think should land them the alpha spot.

    There’s a beautiful exposition above of Jewish me-too-ism — white when convenient and POC when not (revving up anti-semitism and hate speech codes) — which goes some way toward explaining the ambivalence you address. Going straight for the pseudo-psych “betas” a/o “jealousy” explanation is pure smokescreen. Occam’s butterknife and all that.

    There’s extraordinary duplicity on display here — a highly successful man defending not the society that enabled him, but doubling down on hate speech codes which 1) target the historic majority for prosecution and 2) exclude them from protection, even as they themselves become a minority.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  69. @Anonymous
    Charm is associated with folks like, say, the Irish, not upper class English who were traditionally regarded as cold.

    What low brow source do you get your cultural references from?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  70. @Anon
    "Not true in my experience, I must only hang with the 20% who despise Obama and think SSM is a joke."

    I guess that is possible. Since middle school, I went to Jewish-heavy school, and the vast majority are Liberal Democrats.. except on issue of Israel.

    Jews I know hate, hate, hate Trump. They hate him.
    Some like Hillary. Some like Sanders. But most of them LOVE Israel. Sander's 'leftism' doesn't apply to Israel. No sirree. They are more rightwing about Israel than Pat Buchanan is about White America. But then Sanders himself is all gungho about Israel where he spent his kibbutzy days.

    I've grown up with this Jewish Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde stuff all my life, so it never surprises me. The same Jewish guy who will bring up Jim Crow and them poor poor Negroes will say stuff like 'those Arabs are savages, and they need a ruthless tyrant to keep them in place'. Some Jews I know did oppose the Iraq War but on those grounds. Arabs are savages and don't deserve democracy and can't handle it. But them poor poor Negroes down South denied of their rights...

    I'm convinced that most Jews got double-track minds. It may be their nomadic wandering experience all over the world that made them think sort of funny in a dualistic way. Some Jews must be aware of the contradictions, but some seem totally blind to it. It's like what Philip Weiss says about blinders on some Jews. I've encounted such mind-sets so often.
    https://youtu.be/mnvlGNo4GKY?t=10m43s

    It's like that scene in HEARTBREAK KID about 'there is no deceit in the cauliflower'. It's hilarious because Grodin who is praising the lack of deception is full of deception. On one level, he knows he's pulling a shtick, yet, on another level, it's like he really takes to heart the BS he's peddling. He believes in the con.
    Watching that scene was like dejavu and I kept thinking I swear I know someone on some occasion like that; I've been through this scene before. And it finally hit me! My sister is married to a Triber and he came visiting and the dinner table conservation was so much like that scene. He is praising my parents food, and it sounds so triber-ish. My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy... But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the 'brick wall' dad peering into that 'new york head' of his. It's a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don't find in most ethnic groups.

    When I'm with most ethinc groups, I'm dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it's two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.

    In my experience about 2/3 of Jews are liberal. However about half of those liberal Jews are ambivalent towards Israel. Sanders is extremely ambivalent towards Israel, even hostile at times. There is a minority among the liberal Jews – I would guess at about 5 -10% – who are actively hostile to Israel. The ones who are Zionist and liberal are pretty much as you describe and they cannot see the contradiction.But when they do see it, they tend to move to the hostile to Israel category and not to the 1/3 non-liberal category.

    However the situation is fluid. Most of the liberal Jews intermarry as you yourself see. Their children will not be Jewish for the most part. Only the conservative Jews will remain Jews, although some will move to Israel I am guessing, over time.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Another pattern to keep in mind is that extremely rich Jews tend to become more pro-Israel over the years, perhaps for internal psychological reasons, perhaps just because they get worn down by targeted recruitment. For example, Haim Saban's recent annual fundraiser for the IDF in Beverly Hills had a couple of first time donors writing 7-8 figure checks: Michael Dell and Larry Ellison. Those are pretty good gets.

    So, it's not just the distribution of views toward Israel of American Jews in general that matters, it's the views of the massive donors at the top.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  71. @Cwhatfuture
    In my experience about 2/3 of Jews are liberal. However about half of those liberal Jews are ambivalent towards Israel. Sanders is extremely ambivalent towards Israel, even hostile at times. There is a minority among the liberal Jews - I would guess at about 5 -10% - who are actively hostile to Israel. The ones who are Zionist and liberal are pretty much as you describe and they cannot see the contradiction.But when they do see it, they tend to move to the hostile to Israel category and not to the 1/3 non-liberal category.

    However the situation is fluid. Most of the liberal Jews intermarry as you yourself see. Their children will not be Jewish for the most part. Only the conservative Jews will remain Jews, although some will move to Israel I am guessing, over time.

    Another pattern to keep in mind is that extremely rich Jews tend to become more pro-Israel over the years, perhaps for internal psychological reasons, perhaps just because they get worn down by targeted recruitment. For example, Haim Saban’s recent annual fundraiser for the IDF in Beverly Hills had a couple of first time donors writing 7-8 figure checks: Michael Dell and Larry Ellison. Those are pretty good gets.

    So, it’s not just the distribution of views toward Israel of American Jews in general that matters, it’s the views of the massive donors at the top.

    Read More
    • Replies: @syonredux

    Another pattern to keep in mind is that extremely rich Jews tend to become more pro-Israel over the years, perhaps for internal psychological reasons, perhaps just because they get worn down by targeted recruitment.
     
    Doesn't the craving for "diversity" peak in the late teens/early 20s (e.g., the college crowd) and diminish with age?

    I know that most of the elderly people that I know exhibit fairly strong tribal impulses.

    So, if one takes those natural tendencies and combines them with Judaism ( which, unlike Christianity and Islam, is an ethnic/tribal/national religion)....
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  72. @snorlax
    Yes, South Africa was weaker in a lot of ways than Israel is (although, even with sanctions, they could've maintained their system indefinitely if they had the political will).

    But Israel is weaker than South Africa, too. It's far less self-sufficient in terms of agriculture and mining, and while they have a possible solution to that problem (invade their neighbors; take their farmland and oil), they likewise almost certainly don't have the political will. And they're very unlikely to have a Reagan/Thatcher to veto sanctions and run interference for them—just the opposite.

    There’ll always be China and India.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  73. rod1963 says:
    @Ozymandias
    Dear Jew,

    So, spending the last half century suppressing identity politics among White males, while simultaneously promoting identity politics among everyone else, isn't working out like you had hoped? Man, I really feel bad about that. Who could have foreseen that there might be drawbacks?

    They aren’t as smart as they think. Their abject hatred of whites have blinded them. But it won’t stop them. They’ll keep on supporting Islam until one day all that flow of money to Israel which keeps it alive ceases or the Muzzies figure out where the Jews reside in the West and directly target them. Which will happen as the Muzzies learn better targeting strategies.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  74. @SFG
    Not too smart? Seems like he saw the writing on the wall to begin with, and she was a little later to come around.

    If you mean 'fooled by ideology into believing dumb things', well, remember Marxism?

    My friend’s wife is a highly strung, emotional idiot. She grew up in Paris and has seen the effects of immigration from the Middle East for DECADES (she is in her late 60′s). Is that not enough experience to figure out this is a bad idea? I remember hosting some French guests 20 years ago and they were complaining bitterly about the Arabs and North Africans. So, no, I don’t buy this. Actually, if it wasn’t for the horrific nature of the attacks that occurred in Paris (too close to home and scared the Bejesus out of her), she would continue prattling with her pro-immigration nonsense.

    Jews are very capable of being delusional, suicidal and extremely stupid. And sometimes, the more success they have, the dumber their ideas get. In Europe, generally speaking, they have now had enough time to figure out that massive Muslim immigration means the end for them in Europe – this means massive relocation costs, breaking up of ties that bind them with people in various countries etc. My Jewish friends locating to Israel will soon find that Israel is more alien to them than they thought. The culture is very different from France. Although nominally Jewish, they are really French. And also, they are getting out now but for those that wait longer, the cost will be higher as the urge to get out spreads to larger and larger sections of the Jewish and non-Jewish populations.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  75. AnalogMan says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur

    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for ‘gay marriage’.

     

    69% of Jews voted for Obama, 30% voted for Romney. If the Orthodox keep growing at the same pace (4+ children vs. secular Jews below 2), Jews will be as conservative as Mormons in 50-75 years.

    Oh, a lot less than that – if Mormons keep drifting leftward at the current rate.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  76. Mr. Anon says:
    @Lot
    On the bright side, he is really using the language of anti-PC here. Is there anything within this paragraph that would be out of place in an Ann Coulter column?

    At Bowdoin College, holding parties with sombreros and tequila is deemed to be an act of prejudice against Mexicans. At Emory, the chalking of an endorsement of the likely Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump, on a sidewalk is deemed to require a review of security tapes. The existence of a college named after a widely admired former U.S. president has been condemned at Princeton, under the duress of a student occupation. At Yale, Halloween costumes are the subject of administrative edict. The dean of Harvard Law School has acknowledged that hers is a racist institution, while the freshman dean at Harvard College has used dinner place mats to propagandize the student body on aspects of diversity. Professors acquiesce as students insist that they not be exposed to views on issues, such as abortion, that make them uncomfortable.
     


    As I’ve been saying for a long time, the crucial “swing vote” not in numbers but in influence are ethnocentric center-left Jews, such as Larry Summers.
     
    I agree on the "swing vote" part. Not seeing much by the writers on Unz.com doing anything but alienate this group however (Derb excepted).

    “I agree on the “swing vote” part. Not seeing much by the writers on Unz.com doing anything but alienate this group however (Derb excepted).”

    I’m not seeing that this swing group is doing much of anything other than alienating us.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  77. Mr. Anon says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur

    80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for ‘gay marriage’.

     

    69% of Jews voted for Obama, 30% voted for Romney. If the Orthodox keep growing at the same pace (4+ children vs. secular Jews below 2), Jews will be as conservative as Mormons in 50-75 years.

    “69% of Jews voted for Obama, 30% voted for Romney. If the Orthodox keep growing at the same pace (4+ children vs. secular Jews below 2), Jews will be as conservative as Mormons in 50-75 years.”

    So, 69% of Jews voted for a leftist Senator, who had massive backing from Wall Street, who delivered government mandated healthcare, and who was supportive of Israel, while 30% of them voted for a Governor of a leftist state, who had considerable backing from Wall Street, who delivered government mandated healthcare, and who is very, very supportive of Israel.

    Thanks for clearing up the enormous difference there.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  78. Mr. Anon says:

    “Sanders is extremely ambivalent towards Israel, even hostile at times.”

    Really? What has he said or written that was hostile? Or even ambivalent? Is a person ambivalent about Israel because he is a less enthusiastic supporter of it than Lindsey Graham or the average FOX News talking-head?

    Read More
    • Replies: @Cwhatfuture
    "The sight of Israeli soldiers breaking the arms and legs of Arabs is reprehensible" and "must be condemned,” Sanders said. A few months later, Sanders went further: "The policy that Israelis shoot people is unacceptable. It is wrong that the United States provides arms to Israel," he declared, according to a local newspaper account at the time.

    That is from Politico. I would call that "ambivalent", even "hostile." Or were you waiting for a call to actually destroy Israel? I never said he was insane and genocidal.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  79. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous
    Charm is associated with folks like, say, the Irish, not upper class English who were traditionally regarded as cold.

    “Charm is associated with folks like, say, the Irish, not upper class English who were traditionally regarded as cold.”

    There is a difference between charm and effusiveness that you apparently don’t understand.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  80. @Charles Martel
    Jews aren't very smart - fact. I was in France during the "Merkel Boner" last year, hosted by a Jewish family I have known for a few years. They are reasonably wealthy (certainly by French standards), quite well educated and I wouldn't say terribly politically correct. The husband thought that importing these Syrians could be a real problem. When I pushed him, he thought they ought to be kept out. The wife (who acknowledged that Muslims had made parts of Paris and other cities off limits for Jews) was ranting against the Hungarians for being "utter fascists." Then 13 November happened and I was on my way to Dubai for a holiday. I called to check how they were doing. She was ranting against the Terrorists calling them "dumb" but yet no acknowledgement that they were invited by her "line of thinking" in the first place.

    I met them again recently, and she wanted ALL North African and Arab Muslims in France deported if they also had Algerian/Moroccan/Syrian passports. I was almost stunned. But anyway, they were packing off to Israel.

    Jewish women (or all Western women these days?) are hyper-emotional, with far too much desire to dominate everything and are simply unsuited for politics. I would extend that to say that any society that puts women at the centre of the decision-making process is going to become extinct. There is a reason why every society on earth traditionally (until the 20th century) had men run politics and women run the household. Unfortunately, Western men have become as bad as the women these days.

    They are packing off from France to Israel?

    They sound smart to me.

    Read More
    • Replies: @BB753
    It's probably a roundabout way for them to emigrate to the USA or Canada.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  81. syonredux says:
    @biz

    But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they’ll go down fast. South Africa couldn’t last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.
     
    Dream on. The situation in Israel is very different than South Africa in just about every way that matters:

    a) Jews are not a minority in Israel, but rather 80% and growing. South African whites could not avoid the demographic writing on the wall, but in Israel Jews are the demographic writing on the wall.

    b) Israel has a prominent position in the global high-tech economy whereas South Africa was primarily a natural resource exporter. Natural resources get taken out of the ground no matter who is in charge, but if Jews leave Israel the Google and Intel and other research campuses there, will close, and hundreds of billions of dollars of investment will be lost.

    c) In spite of the endless banal and intellectually dishonest claims, Israel does not practice apartheid. Given that any visit to Israel or footage out of Israel shows Arabs, Druze, Circassians and other minorities attending the same universities, shopping at the same malls, going to the same beaches, and receiving the same social benefits as Jews, making the apartheid claim stick with anyone beyond the antisemitic far left or far right is a non-starter.

    d) In spite of the fantasies of Western leftists (and far rightists) the "Palestinian" Arabs are a bunch of tribes, sects, and families who absolutely hate each other. They can't even run a partial government completely supported by international welfare. They are simply unable to take out a modern sophisticated nation-state and win.

    c) In spite of the endless banal and intellectually dishonest claims, Israel does not practice apartheid. Given that any visit to Israel or footage out of Israel shows Arabs, Druze, Circassians and other minorities attending the same universities, shopping at the same malls, going to the same beaches, and receiving the same social benefits as Jews, making the apartheid claim stick with anyone beyond the antisemitic far left or far right is a non-starter.

    Be more correct to characterize Israel as a Jewish Supremacist state.And Jews intend to keep it that way (no mass immigration/open borders for Israel-ever)

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  82. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Another pattern to keep in mind is that extremely rich Jews tend to become more pro-Israel over the years, perhaps for internal psychological reasons, perhaps just because they get worn down by targeted recruitment. For example, Haim Saban's recent annual fundraiser for the IDF in Beverly Hills had a couple of first time donors writing 7-8 figure checks: Michael Dell and Larry Ellison. Those are pretty good gets.

    So, it's not just the distribution of views toward Israel of American Jews in general that matters, it's the views of the massive donors at the top.

    Another pattern to keep in mind is that extremely rich Jews tend to become more pro-Israel over the years, perhaps for internal psychological reasons, perhaps just because they get worn down by targeted recruitment.

    Doesn’t the craving for “diversity” peak in the late teens/early 20s (e.g., the college crowd) and diminish with age?

    I know that most of the elderly people that I know exhibit fairly strong tribal impulses.

    So, if one takes those natural tendencies and combines them with Judaism ( which, unlike Christianity and Islam, is an ethnic/tribal/national religion)….

    Read More
    • Replies: @benjaminl

    So, if one takes those natural tendencies and combines them with Judaism ( which, unlike Christianity and Islam, is an ethnic/tribal/national religion)….
     
    To a first approximation, OK, but surely you would agree that anything can become tribalistic, due to the aforementioned natural tendencies...?

    I've heard that certain groups of Protestants and Catholics can become rather tribal towards each other's versions of the same universal religion...
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  83. @Mr. Anon
    "Sanders is extremely ambivalent towards Israel, even hostile at times."

    Really? What has he said or written that was hostile? Or even ambivalent? Is a person ambivalent about Israel because he is a less enthusiastic supporter of it than Lindsey Graham or the average FOX News talking-head?

    “The sight of Israeli soldiers breaking the arms and legs of Arabs is reprehensible” and “must be condemned,” Sanders said. A few months later, Sanders went further: “The policy that Israelis shoot people is unacceptable. It is wrong that the United States provides arms to Israel,” he declared, according to a local newspaper account at the time.

    That is from Politico. I would call that “ambivalent”, even “hostile.” Or were you waiting for a call to actually destroy Israel? I never said he was insane and genocidal.

    Read More
    • Replies: @5371
    So anything other than "The sight of Israeli soldiers breaking the arms and legs of Arabs is beautiful and must be applauded. The policy that Israelis shoot people is wonderful" is hostile? Tough crowd.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  84. 5371 says:
    @biz

    But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they’ll go down fast. South Africa couldn’t last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.
     
    Dream on. The situation in Israel is very different than South Africa in just about every way that matters:

    a) Jews are not a minority in Israel, but rather 80% and growing. South African whites could not avoid the demographic writing on the wall, but in Israel Jews are the demographic writing on the wall.

    b) Israel has a prominent position in the global high-tech economy whereas South Africa was primarily a natural resource exporter. Natural resources get taken out of the ground no matter who is in charge, but if Jews leave Israel the Google and Intel and other research campuses there, will close, and hundreds of billions of dollars of investment will be lost.

    c) In spite of the endless banal and intellectually dishonest claims, Israel does not practice apartheid. Given that any visit to Israel or footage out of Israel shows Arabs, Druze, Circassians and other minorities attending the same universities, shopping at the same malls, going to the same beaches, and receiving the same social benefits as Jews, making the apartheid claim stick with anyone beyond the antisemitic far left or far right is a non-starter.

    d) In spite of the fantasies of Western leftists (and far rightists) the "Palestinian" Arabs are a bunch of tribes, sects, and families who absolutely hate each other. They can't even run a partial government completely supported by international welfare. They are simply unable to take out a modern sophisticated nation-state and win.

    I doubt there have been hundreds of billions of dollars of foreign investment in the “high-tech” economy of Israel. I think you have added zeroes.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  85. 5371 says:
    @Cwhatfuture
    "The sight of Israeli soldiers breaking the arms and legs of Arabs is reprehensible" and "must be condemned,” Sanders said. A few months later, Sanders went further: "The policy that Israelis shoot people is unacceptable. It is wrong that the United States provides arms to Israel," he declared, according to a local newspaper account at the time.

    That is from Politico. I would call that "ambivalent", even "hostile." Or were you waiting for a call to actually destroy Israel? I never said he was insane and genocidal.

    So anything other than “The sight of Israeli soldiers breaking the arms and legs of Arabs is beautiful and must be applauded. The policy that Israelis shoot people is wonderful” is hostile? Tough crowd.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  86. Anon7 says:

    On topic OT: Students at NYU cannot exercise pro-Trump freedom of speech:

    NYU’s pro-Trump students fear for their safety — and grades.

    They may be flooding caucus rooms across the country, but Donald Trump supporters at NYU keep their heads down, mouths shut and their correspondence secret.

    Lying in class about their political beliefs and keeping online conversations strictly private are typical precautions taken by The Donald’s badly outnumbered followers on campus.

    “Supporters generally try to keep it hidden from the rest of the student body,” said junior Dylan Perera, 22. “They’re afraid of losing friends, being ridiculed in class, getting worse grades and are even afraid of being assaulted and physically hurt.”

    The computer-science major from LA said he was verbally accosted by a student who had asked about his affiliation.

    “She freaked out and started yelling and screaming in my face, calling me a racist and a fascist. It was impossible to even have a conversation,” he said.

    http://nypost.com/2016/04/02/nyu-students-who-back-trump-fear-for-their-safety-on-campus/

    Read More
    • Replies: @syonredux

    They may be flooding caucus rooms across the country, but Donald Trump supporters at NYU keep their heads down, mouths shut and their correspondence secret.

    Lying in class about their political beliefs and keeping online conversations strictly private are typical precautions taken by The Donald’s badly outnumbered followers on campus.
     
    Sadly, this is very accurate.

    And it pertains to faculty as well. I have a rep for being the token conservative at my uni, but I make sure that my public conservatism stays within the limits of respectability.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  87. MQ says:
    @biz

    But when there actually is a concerted campaign by the American left to take down Israel, they’ll go down fast. South Africa couldn’t last 5 years—and that was with the most conservative Republican president of the last 9 decades.
     
    Dream on. The situation in Israel is very different than South Africa in just about every way that matters:

    a) Jews are not a minority in Israel, but rather 80% and growing. South African whites could not avoid the demographic writing on the wall, but in Israel Jews are the demographic writing on the wall.

    b) Israel has a prominent position in the global high-tech economy whereas South Africa was primarily a natural resource exporter. Natural resources get taken out of the ground no matter who is in charge, but if Jews leave Israel the Google and Intel and other research campuses there, will close, and hundreds of billions of dollars of investment will be lost.

    c) In spite of the endless banal and intellectually dishonest claims, Israel does not practice apartheid. Given that any visit to Israel or footage out of Israel shows Arabs, Druze, Circassians and other minorities attending the same universities, shopping at the same malls, going to the same beaches, and receiving the same social benefits as Jews, making the apartheid claim stick with anyone beyond the antisemitic far left or far right is a non-starter.

    d) In spite of the fantasies of Western leftists (and far rightists) the "Palestinian" Arabs are a bunch of tribes, sects, and families who absolutely hate each other. They can't even run a partial government completely supported by international welfare. They are simply unable to take out a modern sophisticated nation-state and win.

    Jews are actually more like half (or even less) of the population within Israeli control, not 80%. Israeli apologists love to talk as if Israeli citizens are the only Arabs who are at issue, when in fact the major issue is the Palestinians on the West Bank and Gaza Strip who are completely under Israeli control but have no citizenship and no rights. Calculating Jewish demographic shares while ignoring that population is like South Africa claiming that huge numbers of blacks were not South African but instead citizens of the various Bantustans that the SA government had set up.

    And it is reasonable to call Israel an apartheid state. There is a very high level of de facto segregation between Arabs and Jews in housing and schooling even when it comes to Israeli Arab citizens in the pre-67 borders. And of course there is rigid, absolute, militarily controlled segregation of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

    There are certainly plenty of differences between SA and Israel, as between any two countries, but there are also many parallels. The two countries were very friendly indeed when SA was under white rule.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  88. syonredux says:
    @Anon7
    On topic OT: Students at NYU cannot exercise pro-Trump freedom of speech:

    NYU’s pro-Trump students fear for their safety — and grades.

    They may be flooding caucus rooms across the country, but Donald Trump supporters at NYU keep their heads down, mouths shut and their correspondence secret.

    Lying in class about their political beliefs and keeping online conversations strictly private are typical precautions taken by The Donald’s badly outnumbered followers on campus.

    “Supporters generally try to keep it hidden from the rest of the student body,” said junior Dylan Perera, 22. “They’re afraid of losing friends, being ridiculed in class, getting worse grades and are even afraid of being assaulted and physically hurt.”

    The computer-science major from LA said he was verbally accosted by a student who had asked about his affiliation.

    "She freaked out and started yelling and screaming in my face, calling me a racist and a fascist. It was impossible to even have a conversation,” he said.

    http://nypost.com/2016/04/02/nyu-students-who-back-trump-fear-for-their-safety-on-campus/

     

    They may be flooding caucus rooms across the country, but Donald Trump supporters at NYU keep their heads down, mouths shut and their correspondence secret.

    Lying in class about their political beliefs and keeping online conversations strictly private are typical precautions taken by The Donald’s badly outnumbered followers on campus.

    Sadly, this is very accurate.

    And it pertains to faculty as well. I have a rep for being the token conservative at my uni, but I make sure that my public conservatism stays within the limits of respectability.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  89. @syonredux

    Yes, but “anti-Whitism” isn’t even a word, so, according to Sapir-Whorf and the Newspeak Appendix to 1984, it can’t really exist in our heads as something to be concerned about.
     
    I've always thought that Orwell's most penetrating insight ( a product, perhaps, of his journalistic background) involved the supreme utility of short, snappy phrases as a way to shape the thought patterns of the Outer Party: thoughtcrime, sexcrime, doublethink, etc.

    Compare that to our current lexicon: Homophobia, transphobia, whitewashing, Orientalism, etc. There's no need to go through a cumbersome explanation about why it is vastly evil to cast a European as an Egyptian. Just call it whitewashing, and the good-thinkers will respond appropriately....

    I agree. And the term selected should sound profound and somewhat scientific, but not really make any sense. Just wtf does “transgendered” mean? That they can go back and forth at will? And I still don’t get cisgendered although I know I am guilty of it.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  90. You can always count on Summers and his ilk to take the low road.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  91. benjaminl says:
    @syonredux

    Another pattern to keep in mind is that extremely rich Jews tend to become more pro-Israel over the years, perhaps for internal psychological reasons, perhaps just because they get worn down by targeted recruitment.
     
    Doesn't the craving for "diversity" peak in the late teens/early 20s (e.g., the college crowd) and diminish with age?

    I know that most of the elderly people that I know exhibit fairly strong tribal impulses.

    So, if one takes those natural tendencies and combines them with Judaism ( which, unlike Christianity and Islam, is an ethnic/tribal/national religion)....

    So, if one takes those natural tendencies and combines them with Judaism ( which, unlike Christianity and Islam, is an ethnic/tribal/national religion)….

    To a first approximation, OK, but surely you would agree that anything can become tribalistic, due to the aforementioned natural tendencies…?

    I’ve heard that certain groups of Protestants and Catholics can become rather tribal towards each other’s versions of the same universal religion…

    Read More
    • Replies: @syonredux

    To a first approximation, OK, but surely you would agree that anything can become tribalistic, due to the aforementioned natural tendencies…?
     
    Sure. I'm just noting that Judaism makes tribalism quite easy, as it is a a religion that is based on the concept of ethnic separatism.

    I’ve heard that certain groups of Protestants and Catholics can become rather tribal towards each other’s versions of the same universal religion…
     
    Sure. Tribalism is a universal phenomenon.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  92. benjaminl says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Yes, but "anti-Whitism" isn't even a word, so, according to Sapir-Whorf and the Newspeak Appendix to 1984, it can't really exist in our heads as something to be concerned about.

    Kind of like how “Red-baiting” and “race-baiting” are both words, whereas “brown-baiting” (i.e. the kind of “disavow the Nazis/KKK” that Trump has to deal with) is not a word.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  93. syonredux says:
    @benjaminl

    So, if one takes those natural tendencies and combines them with Judaism ( which, unlike Christianity and Islam, is an ethnic/tribal/national religion)….
     
    To a first approximation, OK, but surely you would agree that anything can become tribalistic, due to the aforementioned natural tendencies...?

    I've heard that certain groups of Protestants and Catholics can become rather tribal towards each other's versions of the same universal religion...

    To a first approximation, OK, but surely you would agree that anything can become tribalistic, due to the aforementioned natural tendencies…?

    Sure. I’m just noting that Judaism makes tribalism quite easy, as it is a a religion that is based on the concept of ethnic separatism.

    I’ve heard that certain groups of Protestants and Catholics can become rather tribal towards each other’s versions of the same universal religion…

    Sure. Tribalism is a universal phenomenon.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  94. BB753 says:
    @Cwhatfuture
    They are packing off from France to Israel?

    They sound smart to me.

    It’s probably a roundabout way for them to emigrate to the USA or Canada.

    Read More
    • Replies: @cwhatfuture
    Yes. That is exactly what I said, exactly, word for word.
    , @Discard
    During the 1980s, there was a movement among American Jews to "Save Soviet Jewry", by letting them emigrate to Israel. Russian hustlers were digging deep to find a Jewish ancestor, so they could go to Israel and catch another plane to the U.S. Welcome, Russian Mafia.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  95. @BB753
    It's probably a roundabout way for them to emigrate to the USA or Canada.

    Yes. That is exactly what I said, exactly, word for word.

    Read More
    • Replies: @BB753
    Well, do you really think their ultimate destination is Israel, and not a safer place like the US? It's not like Jews haven't used Israel before as a stepping point on to America.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  96. Olorin says:
    @syonredux

    So, he doubles down on the low road:

    But, if comfort is elevated to be a preeminent value, the standard should be applied universally. Unfortunately, there is a clear exception made on most university campuses for anti-Semitic speech and acts. …

    Instances of anti-Semitism by this standard are ubiquitous in American academic life. …
     

    That's what I've always said. Jewish elites will just double down. Remind everyone that Jews are eternal victims. Continue to push the sacralization of the Holocaust. And, even more importantly, remind non-Whites that there is no percentage in going after Jews. Do it, and grants and donations will dry up.

    And to put some commas and dollar signs on your last sentence:

    http://ejewishphilanthropy.com/the-giving-pledge/

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  97. Olorin says:
    @Anon
    Jews are hated because they're richer, smarter, but still beta people. Black and Hispanics can't stand it when someone who's not an alpha is higher than they are on the social totem pole despite their extreme cults of machismo, which they think should land them the alpha spot.

    “Jews are…beta people.”

    There’s a word for that:

    Schtick.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  98. Discard says:
    @BB753
    It's probably a roundabout way for them to emigrate to the USA or Canada.

    During the 1980s, there was a movement among American Jews to “Save Soviet Jewry”, by letting them emigrate to Israel. Russian hustlers were digging deep to find a Jewish ancestor, so they could go to Israel and catch another plane to the U.S. Welcome, Russian Mafia.

    Read More
    • Agree: BB753
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  99. BB753 says:
    @cwhatfuture
    Yes. That is exactly what I said, exactly, word for word.

    Well, do you really think their ultimate destination is Israel, and not a safer place like the US? It’s not like Jews haven’t used Israel before as a stepping point on to America.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Comments are closed.

Subscribe to All Steve Sailer Comments via RSS
PastClassics
The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
The evidence is clear — but often ignored
Are elite university admissions based on meritocracy and diversity as claimed?
A simple remedy for income stagnation
Confederate Flag Day, State Capitol, Raleigh, N.C. -- March 3, 2007