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For the last eight years, the President of the United States has had to share the White House living quarters with his mother-in-law … and, as far as I can tell, not one American television comedian dared to make even a meta-joke about it.

Is it any wonder that the electorate grew tired of the Obama Era’s pervasive sanctimony?

From The New Yorker:

HOW JOKES WON THE ELECTION
How do you fight an enemy who’s just kidding?
By Emily Nussbaum

Since November 9th, we’ve heard a lot of talk about unreality, and how what’s normal bends when you’re in a state of incipient autocracy. There’s been a lot written about gaslighting (lies that make you feel crazy) and the rise of fake news (hoaxes that displace facts), and much analysis of Trump as a reality star (an authentic phony). But what killed me last year were the jokes, because I love jokes—dirty jokes, bad jokes, rude jokes, jokes that cut through bullshit and explode pomposity. Growing up a Jewish kid in the nineteen-seventies, in a house full of Holocaust books, giggling at Mel Brooks’s “The Producers,” I had the impression that jokes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists. Comedy might be cruel or stupid, yet, in aggregate, it was the rebel’s stance. Nazis were humorless. The fact that it was mostly men who got to tell the jokes didn’t bother me. Jokes were a superior way to tell the truth—that meant freedom for everyone.

To Ms. Nussbaum, jokes were funny back when they were a tool for her group to rise up by undermining the old ethnic hierarchy. But now that her people have made it to the top of the world, jokes aren’t funny anymore. They’re subversive. And thus comedy is inappropriate. And evil.

Steps must be taken.

But by 2016 the wheel had spun hard the other way: now it was the neo-fascist strongman who held the microphone and an army of anonymous dirty-joke dispensers who helped put him in office.

Personally, my philosophy of comedy has always been that of Looney Tunes mogul Leon Schlesinger, who used to advise his animators (in the voice they borrowed for Daffy Duck): “Put in lottsa joketh, felleth, joketh are funny.”

Screenshot 2017-01-17 18.03.05

But as genuine experts on humor, such as V.I. Lenin, have explained, all that really matters is who is allowed to joke about whom.

… In contrast, Trump was a hot comic, a classic Howard Stern guest. He was the insult comic, the stadium act, the ratings-obsessed headliner who shouted down hecklers. His rallies boiled with rage and laughter, which were hard to tell apart. You didn’t have to think that Trump himself was funny to see this effect: I found him repulsive, and yet I could hear those comedy rhythms everywhere, from the Rodney Dangerfield “I don’t get no respect” routine to the gleeful insult-comic slams of Don Rickles (for “hockey puck,” substitute “Pocahontas”) to Andrew Dice Clay, whose lighten-up-it’s-a-joke, it’s-not-him-it’s-a-persona brand of misogyny dominated the late nineteen-eighties. The eighties were Trump’s era, where he still seemed to live.

It’s almost as if Trump is America’s First Jewish President the way Bill Clinton was America’s First Black President. (Trump’s taste in home decor, though, would make him America’s First Baller President.)

But he was also reminiscent of the older comics who once roamed the Catskills, those dark and angry men who provided a cathartic outlet for harsh ideas that both broke and reinforced taboos, about the war between men and women, especially. Trump was that hostile-jaunty guy in the big flappy suit, with the vaudeville hair, the pursed lips, and the glare. There’s always been an audience for that guy.

Like I’ve been saying, a lot of 1969 Era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments — especially by higher IQ daughters annoyed that their dumber brothers got more help with their education expenses from their parents — that got transmuted into anger at Society in general by that anti-noblesse oblige genius for maintaining ethnic solidarity by blaming gentiles rather than each other.

 
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  1. Jokes are funny when they punch “up,” like when you mercilessly mock a white Heartland Dad who makes $40K/yr. They’re not funny when you punch “down,” like when you mock an Affirmative Action hoaxing Harvard Law Professor cum United States Senator.

    • Agree: TheBoom, Bill
  2. How many Jews does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    – That’s not funny.

    • Replies: @SFG
    No, there's actually an answer to that one:

    So, how many Jews does it take to change a lightbulb?
  3. Ah, can you even laugh at “Springtime for Hitler (and Germany)” anymore. I mean, legally, or ethically, or whatever.

    Time to get the DVD again!

    • Replies: @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print
  4. It’s almost as if Trump is America’s First Jewish President.

    Heh! We’ve had so many First Jewish Presidents at this point that by the time we get a ‘real’ one it’s going to feel a tad anti-climactic.

    But who needs a president, anyway? Just a figurehead to absorb abuse, amirite? Better a shabbas goy for that job.

    And further: this reminds me of the old saw in Israel about becoming the 51st state. “Why would we ever settle for two senators when we already have a hundred?”

    • Replies: @Lot

    And further: this reminds me of the old saw in Israel about becoming the 51st state. “Why would we ever settle for two senators when we already have a hundred?”
     
    All 100 Senators, yes, but Israel is unfortunately missing 8 Congressmen.

    The "emergency" $225 million funding bill for Israel's Iron Dome defense during 2014's unpleasantness in Gaza passed the Senate without any no votes, but received a mere 395-8 majority in the house. In case you were wondering:

    The four Democrats were Keith Ellison (MN-05), Zoe Lofgren (CA-19), Jim Moran (VA-08), and Beto O'Rourke (TX-16).

    The four Republicans are Justin Amash (MI-03), Walter Jones (NC-03), Tom Massie (KY-04), and Mark Sanford (SC-01).
     
    I really like Amash and Jones, sorry to see them on this list. Never heard of Massie, and all I know about Sanford is his hilarious affair with the Argentine less attractive than his wife and the "hiking the Appalachian Trial" excuse for his secret trip to Argentina. Between Strom's black maid love child, Sanford, Nikki Haley's affair, and the stories we all prefer not to hear about Lindsay Graham, South Carolina has a rather French indifference to the sex lives of its public officials.
  5. I don’t know how much various pro-Trump online comedians and trolls influenced the election, but they were certainly a hoot to follow. I’m thinking of Twitter folks like the Conservative Pundit in his various incarnations and Pax Dickinson (see here for his iconic post-victory pic at Trump’s election night event in New York).

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    Alt Right Trolls - primarily on Twitter - are almost certainly responsible for exciting the Millennials staffing the Clinton campaign and getting them to convince the old lady to shake her fist at a cartoon frog and his assorted Basket of Deplorables. 99.9% of the electorate had no idea what she was talking about, but probably wondered why she wasn't talking about jobs and the economy.

    In retrospect you really have to wonder about the hubris and stupidity of Hillary's engagement in a character and fitness contest as probably the only political figure who would compare unfavorably in such to Trump. You can tell that her most trusted political advisors aren't allowed to tell her what nearly everyone in the world knows to be a plain fact - no one likes her.
    , @ogunsiron
    I enjoyed Conservative Pundit (DemsRRealRacist ?) very much. I hope he resurfaces as a commentator somewhere. I also like Asian Conservative Man.
  6. It’s true, though, that comedy shifted from left to right around the same time as freedom of speech shifted from being an issue for the left to one for the right, proving all those former free speech advocates on the left who now support “hate speech” laws to have been straightforward hypocrites and liars all along, and for much the same reasons. One of the features of leaders like Putin and Trump is that they are actually able to joke – I laughed out loud when I heard Putin on BBC radio this evening deadpanning that Russian prostitutes are “of course, the best in the world”. I don’t recall anything actually funny from the likes of Obama, Cameron, Brown or Blair in their entire careers.

    That’s not to say that the vast majority of professional “comedians” aren’t still leftist. It will just take a generation for the tired old leftist establishment comedians to get finally discredited or to die off, and to get them shifted off their establishment media perches, by the new, genuinely subversive future comedians of the right.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    Or, alternatively, when the elites who controlled the media were right wing they were much less far seeing about how culture operates than the baby boomers who replaced them. They realized that being youthful and cool was the key to controlling culture in the future, not just being in charge. Therefore, you see the hideous spectacle of lefty boomers who pretend they'll never age, like the horrifying Mic Jagger. If they admitted they were no longer youthful or cool they would cede all authenticity. Even as the boomers slowly give up the reins, they make sure that their ideological heirs are poised as the "cool" people in media. So therefore you get the similarly horrifying Samantha Bee and Trevor Noah who are truly, truly unfunny who we are sold as the cool heirs of comedy. I think right wing comedians will always be distributed by alternative channels, I doubt there will ever a swing in the zeitgeist where all (or even some) of the mainstream comedians are right wing. Even the most "edgy", "misogynistic" comedians like Daniel Tosh are as non-threatening as a pussycat when it actually comes to challenging any politically correct pieties beyond feminism.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    If Larry David is willing to mock his friends, his next season of Curb Your Enthusiasm would be a slam dunk. Just get them talking about Trump on camera.

    Rosie O'Donnell, who was on the last season of Curb, has called for martial law to keep Trump from taking office. Just riff on that. You could have her try to start an insurgency and then realize she needs guns, but they're a pain to get thanks to gun control, so she tries to get Leon to connect her with a gang member, and he gets offended...
    , @Anonymous
    Obame TRIED to be funny by saying NASA was inventing an Iron Man suit or something, it was retarded.
  7. tl;dr

    To win the masses, appeal to them and don’t call them deplorable.

  8. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    That laugh directed at Ann Coulter on the Maher show said it all.

    Media thought it could do no wrong by giving Trump lot of free time to knock out the other GOP candidates. I mean Trump… LOL. What a joke that guy is.

    But Trump had a trump card up his sleeve… Deplorables battered by globalism.

  9. I see that she’s Bernard Nussbaum’s daughter. Clinton’s former White House counsel.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_W._Nussbaum

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    When will people stop laughing at these horrible trolls and listen to the voices of the true oppressed minority: the less talented children of extremely powerful Jewish Democrats who want to destroy the country via mass immigration and hate anyone not taking them and their goals VERY seriously.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Bernie should have gone to jail for vacuuming Vince Foster's office after his suicide, but none of the Clintonistas have suffered much and many have done well.
  10. They call him the Joker

  11. …that got transmuted into anger at Society in general by the Jewish genius for maintaining ethnic solidarity by blaming gentiles rather than each other. My comment to Gary at Gramercy in your
    column about Obummer being admitted to a Jewish golf club (comment no. 297) was never published by you. This comment would have gone a long way in helping Society deal with today’s Jews.

  12. It is surreal. Jews, people most associated with comedy and irreverence, trying to turn all Americans into humorless puritans on Obama.

    But we are living in a Opratesque world. Grotesquery of Magic Negro celebrity worship.

  13. First off, honestly, I hadn’t seen New Yorker at the top and didn’t know what article you were going to link to, but as soon as I saw the writer’s name, I knew what side she was on. That’s sad.

    Next, there’s:

    The fact that it was mostly men who got to tell the jokes didn’t bother me. Jokes were a superior way to tell the truth—that meant freedom for everyone.

    I think it’s because men have more of a sense of humor in general, but how many woman comedians are even half-way funny. Men don’t bitch about it’s mostly women that get to randomly complain for 3-4 days a month.

    OK, so the jokes meant to her “freedom of everyone”, but now it’s “… the neo-fascist strongman who held the microphone… “ OK, what the hell is this strongman thing we keep hearing about, first off? Secondly, is this “strongman” telling lies? Is he promoting Fascism or Communism? I bet Trump has a far better idea of what freedom is than anyone that writes for the New Yorker, and he is no Ron Paul.

    I think Miss Nussbaum confuses “rage” at the Trump rallies with “some unabashed truth telling”. That’s what’s freaking her out to where she’s lost her sense of humor. I enjoyed the rallies, and people enjoyed my “Lighten up, (Pope) Francis” sign a great deal. (This was when the idiot Commie pope had been interfering in our democratic election process again by running his large pie hole again.)

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    The "rage" sounds like projection. The only time I recall Trump supporters looking angry is when they were being assaulted by protesters.
  14. ‘… For the last eight years, the President of the United States has had to share the White House living quarters with his mother-in-law … and, as far as I can tell, not one American television comedian dared to make even a meta-joke about it…’

    Alan King died four years before Obama was elected.

    This is one problem at Unz.com. By having so many half-centenarians+ as writers long dead cultural reference points seem still alive.

    Its not M-I-L its now MILF.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Its not M-I-L its now MILF.
     
    Just waiting for M-I-LILF. Too late for MLK Day, though.
    , @Jack D
    Mother-in-law jokes have been around since the pyramids and they will be making them 5,000 years from now if there are still humans around. If Trump's MIL lived in the White House what are the chances that they wouldn't be making jokes about that on late night TV every other day?
  15. Did you catch this line?

    “When Hillary described half of Trump’s followers as ‘deplorables,’ she wasn’t wrong.”

    Well, that settles that, then.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Hey, that term is so '16 anymore. According to a USA Today that I tripped over coming out of my motel room the other morning, Trump's cabinet picks, at least, are a bunch of "Disrupters". I'd love to be known as a Disrupter!

    Call me A.E Newman, Disrupter, handyman, and general gadfly. I'll get some bidness cards printed up prontomundo.
    , @Jack D
    No, but I caught this one:


    the "Pussy Grabs Back” shirt I wore to the polls
     
    It's good to get our analysis of the role of humor in the election from such a clearly unbiased and neutral source.

    Wer Funny ist, bestimme ich.

    Part of what backfired on the Left was turning Hillary into such a humorless goody two-shoes (more than she is in real life, where she likes to curse like a sailor, especially at her staff). The SNL version of Hillary was a long suffering school marm to Alec Baldwin's out of control student Trump. No one really likes the librarian who goes around hissing shhhh! Also, people don't like being hit on the head with propaganda. Casting an attractive thin lipstick lesbian who was less than half of Hillary's age to play the fat, aged, saggy, wrinkled Hillary (as a saintly figure) was much too obvious a propaganda move to make her more appealing than the real Hillary (just as Saddam's doubles were better looking and younger than the real Saddam). If Hillary had been the Republican, they couldn't have found an actress old and fat enough to play her - dollars to donuts they would have cast some old fat white guy in drag and she would have been drunk and cursing on stage just like the real Hillary .
  16. In contrast, Trump was a hot comic, a classic Howard Stern guest. He was the insult comic, the stadium act, the ratings-obsessed headliner who shouted down hecklers. His rallies boiled with rage and laughter, which were hard to tell apart. You didn’t have to think that Trump himself was funny to see this effect: I found him repulsive, and yet I could hear those comedy rhythms everywhere, from the Rodney Dangerfield “I don’t get no respect” routine to the gleeful insult-comic slams of Don Rickles (for “hockey puck,” substitute “Pocahontas”) to Andrew Dice Clay, whose lighten-up-it’s-a-joke, it’s-not-him-it’s-a-persona brand of misogyny dominated the late nineteen-eighties. The eighties were Trump’s era, where he still seemed to live.

    It’s almost as if Trump is America’s First Jewish President.

    Yeah, it’s quite interesting how the Jewish commentariat fail to notice that Trump is ,culturally speaking, a middle-class Jew from the Tri-State area….

    Maybe they don’t like to be reminded that they have Trump-esque relatives?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Yeah, it’s quite interesting how the Jewish commentariat fail to notice that Trump is ,culturally speaking, a middle-class Jew from the Tri-State area…."

    Donald J. Trump is the Al Czervik character from Caddyshack.
    https://youtu.be/5dgxzItaQzw
    , @Dave Pinsen
    It's interesting to contrast Trump with another outer borough billionaire of similar vintage: Ralph Lauren.

    Trump got rich selling tacky American opulence to the nouveau riche and foreigners; Lauren got rich selling British gentry style to the middle class.
  17. The Left is much worse at playing defense than offense. The Alinsky rules are useful for guerilla warfare. but in power they’re like “the dog who caught the car.”

  18. ‘… that got transmuted into anger at Society in general by the Jewish genius for maintaining ethnic solidarity by blaming gentiles rather than each other…’

    Exactly getting it wrong. Best example: While Groucho Marx is constantly undermining Mrs Dumont (Steve’s point), Groucho himself is being constantly undermined by… his family members.

  19. • Replies: @Frau Katze

    NYT column that copies Charles Murray essay:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/technology/how-netflix-is-deepening-our-cultural-echo-chambers.html
     
    I saw that. The editors seem to be flailing around, trying to figure out how the impossible happened.
    , @guest
    Translation: mass propaganda is harder these days, boo-hoo.
  20. “Michael Enoch” just lost his six-figure job and his (Jewish) wife for telling Jewish jokes.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "“Michael Enoch” just lost his six-figure job and his (Jewish) wife for telling Jewish jokes."

    Jewish jokes that contained Jewish death threats.
    , @syonredux

    “Michael Enoch” just lost his six-figure job and his (Jewish) wife for telling Jewish jokes.
     
    I have a certain amount of sympathy for the man; if my colleagues ever found out about what I post here......Well, let's just say that my academic career would be over.

    That being said, he had to to know that this was coming. Once he reached a certain level of prominence, it was inevitable.
    , @SFG
    Jewish jokes? He ran a neo-Nazi website. He went a lot further than Tosh.0 or Andrew Dice Clay.
  21. [J]okes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists

    My father and his brothers in arms were a machine that killed fascists. I suspect this (((ingrate))) doesn’t think much about that.

    • Agree: Kyle McKenna
    • Replies: @Luke Lea

    [J]okes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists
     
    When informed early in his career that he was being "used" by a left-wing Communist-front radio station in LA, Woody replied, "Left-wing, chicken-wing, it's all the same to me." That made me laugh, not sure about you.
  22. and the voodoo ritual in the white house don’t forget that …..gold pure comedy gold

  23. Has any president in American history ever been less mocked or joked about?

    Is it healthy for a democracy to have a leader that it is taboo to joke publicly about?

    His effect on the national psyche/mood might have been as bad as his policies.

    • Replies: @Altai

    Has any president in American history ever been less mocked or joked about?
     
    To be fair about Obama, has any president ever really done less than no drama Obama?
    , @Ron Mexico
    "been less mocked or joked about?" GW, but for good reasons.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Has any president in American history ever been less mocked or joked about?

    Is it healthy for a democracy to have a leader that it is taboo to joke publicly about?

    His effect on the national psyche/mood might have been as bad as his policies."

    A friend of mine once said that the only reasonable lesson to draw from Obama's Presidency is that you should never elect a Black President. The President is someone whom you should - must - be able to criticize. And since criticism of a Black President is, evidently, off-limits, no such person should ever be President..
  24. “Koo koo kachoo, Mrs Robinson” would get tiring after awhile.

    a lot of 1969 era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments

    On the other hand, The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs, of the Aryan Darien variety, and was horribly cruel to shiksas. Its “feminism” was just a cover story.

    Ira Levin was a very deft and devious writer. Just read A Kiss Before Dying sometime. Avoid any spoilers (eg, Wikipedia) before doing so. As Stephen King says, its “real screeching bombshell is neatly tucked away about one hundred pages into the story. If you should happen upon this moment while thumbing randomly through the book, it means nothing to you. If you have read everything faithfully up to that point, it means … everything.”

    • Replies: @syonredux

    a lot of 1969 era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments

    On the other hand, The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs, of the Aryan Darien variety, and was horribly cruel to shiksas. Its “feminism” was just a cover story.
     
    Well yes, but that goes along with the other half of Steve's theory:

    that got transmuted into anger at Society in general by the Jewish genius for maintaining ethnic solidarity by blaming gentiles rather than each other.
     
    So, instead of depicting Jewish patriarchs holding Jewish women down, we get devious male WASPs turning their wives into Disney animatronics....

    And we even get a Jewish couple (the Markowes), so that we can see that Jewish men are learning sexism from their WASP friends.....who even have an exclusive club ( the Stepford Men's Association)....

    And the movie ends with a Black couple.....No doubt the husband will soon be indoctrinated in the ways of the vile Anglo-Saxon.....
    , @utu
    "The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs"

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?
  25. @anony-mouse
    '... For the last eight years, the President of the United States has had to share the White House living quarters with his mother-in-law … and, as far as I can tell, not one American television comedian dared to make even a meta-joke about it...'

    Alan King died four years before Obama was elected.

    This is one problem at Unz.com. By having so many half-centenarians+ as writers long dead cultural reference points seem still alive.

    Its not M-I-L its now MILF.

    Its not M-I-L its now MILF.

    Just waiting for M-I-LILF. Too late for MLK Day, though.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Just waiting for M-I-LILF.

    Who would be perverted enough to want to have sex with their mother-in-law?
  26. is Michelle’s mom going to live with them in their new house too? At least that house is pretty big, WH living quarters are kinda small IIRC

  27. That’s interesting. Steve has hinted at this theme with the private golf country club riff, but now it is out in the open. Just as there is a battle among striving non-jewish white elites playing out on a larger canvas of society unaware of the source and purpose of the memes they accept, there is a battle among factions of highly intelligent and verbal Jewish “interests” playing out in a larger society unaware of the source and purpose of the memes they adopt. Feminism is an intellectual byproduct of rivalry between Jewish daughters and sons.

    It is sort of a Marxian view, the thought construct is a superstructure on more fundamental and important power struggles among various “groups” or classes. It does not have to be capitalist vs. proletariat, can be Sarah vs. Seth.

    We get transsexual rights because it is a superstructure over . . .not sure, gays and women trying to get more NGO money from regular men?

    I tend to agree with Rand, Goethe and the Bible, in the beginning was the word. Ideas mater. Certain groups may latch onto an idea because it forwards their interests, but the idea is primary and the sharper of society.

    Philosopher of the enlightenment were creating ideas that shaped future society long before the average person in London thought much about logic and reason, but after percolating from thought leaders to accepted wisdom, soon we had some farmers and soldiers write the
    Constitution of the United States. Later romanticism unraveled much of the enlightenment in thought and in deed. Today we live in the nihilism of Dostoevsky (if god is dead, all things are permitted) and logical positivism.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    " Philosophers of the enlightenment were creating ideas that shaped future society"

    Nonsense, most of them were talented as BS or con-artists nothing more, as they managed to convince their financial mentoring nobility that their incomprehensible blather was too deep for them, the dukes, fürsten etc, to grasp.
    Case in point : Hegel his meaningless jibber-jabber is understood by noone other than the philosophy professors who, in order to keep their jobs, try to give the impression as if they indeed understand it.
    Of course there were a few exceptions such as Descartes, Goethe
    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.
  28. @Reg Cæsar

    Its not M-I-L its now MILF.
     
    Just waiting for M-I-LILF. Too late for MLK Day, though.

    Just waiting for M-I-LILF.

    Who would be perverted enough to want to have sex with their mother-in-law?

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Some guys are into the mother-daughter thing. One gay commenter on a news article said he once knew a father-son-son's best friend ménage. (Hey, it's no stranger than the rest of 'em.)

    The Iris Robinson scandal in Ulster was close to a grandmother-in-law tryst. Harold and Maude acted out in real life.
  29. @syonredux

    In contrast, Trump was a hot comic, a classic Howard Stern guest. He was the insult comic, the stadium act, the ratings-obsessed headliner who shouted down hecklers. His rallies boiled with rage and laughter, which were hard to tell apart. You didn’t have to think that Trump himself was funny to see this effect: I found him repulsive, and yet I could hear those comedy rhythms everywhere, from the Rodney Dangerfield “I don’t get no respect” routine to the gleeful insult-comic slams of Don Rickles (for “hockey puck,” substitute “Pocahontas”) to Andrew Dice Clay, whose lighten-up-it’s-a-joke, it’s-not-him-it’s-a-persona brand of misogyny dominated the late nineteen-eighties. The eighties were Trump’s era, where he still seemed to live.

    It’s almost as if Trump is America’s First Jewish President.
     
    Yeah, it's quite interesting how the Jewish commentariat fail to notice that Trump is ,culturally speaking, a middle-class Jew from the Tri-State area....

    Maybe they don't like to be reminded that they have Trump-esque relatives?

    “Yeah, it’s quite interesting how the Jewish commentariat fail to notice that Trump is ,culturally speaking, a middle-class Jew from the Tri-State area….”

    Donald J. Trump is the Al Czervik character from Caddyshack.

    • Agree: syonredux
    • Replies: @slumber_j

    Donald J. Trump is the Al Czervik character from Caddyshack.
     
    I get the parallels, but I'd say he's actually more of an Uncle Leo type:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayXlru5gJk&feature=youtu.be&t=37
  30. It also didn’t help Hillary’s chances that she’s completely humorless. The same could be said about her supporters, particularly her female supporters.

    • Agree: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @whorefinder
    The humorlessness of feminists has always been a weak point.

    Blacks activists are not famous for their humor either, but they at least at the intimidation factor of being men.

    Feminists can't physically intimidate men, but haven't learned the shorter/weaker guy technique of using humor to gain power over the group if you can't scare them. In fact, they take the opposite route: don't be funny, and ruthlessly police everyone's jokes.

    Black activists will at least allow mild racial humor to be made (it's the non-blacks who get all upset at it).

    One thing I noted about the article was a discussion of Mad Men and how the women in the show "lost no matter what they did" when it came to joshing around. Typical female whining: they want to be treated like one of the boys, but when they are they can't take it like the boys. This is why we had separate rules for men and women, ladies!

    , @martin2
    Yes I noticed this in one of the election ads that featured a succession of po faced ladies looking offended at what Trump had said about women in the past. There was no trace of humour or irony in the ad and it just made the Clinton supporters seems like joyless spinster schoolmarms..
  31. @Reg Cæsar
    "Koo koo kachoo, Mrs Robinson" would get tiring after awhile.

    a lot of 1969 era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments
     
    On the other hand, The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs, of the Aryan Darien variety, and was horribly cruel to shiksas. Its "feminism" was just a cover story.

    Ira Levin was a very deft and devious writer. Just read A Kiss Before Dying sometime. Avoid any spoilers (eg, Wikipedia) before doing so. As Stephen King says, its "real screeching bombshell is neatly tucked away about one hundred pages into the story. If you should happen upon this moment while thumbing randomly through the book, it means nothing to you. If you have read everything faithfully up to that point, it means ... everything."

    a lot of 1969 era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments

    On the other hand, The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs, of the Aryan Darien variety, and was horribly cruel to shiksas. Its “feminism” was just a cover story.

    Well yes, but that goes along with the other half of Steve’s theory:

    that got transmuted into anger at Society in general by the Jewish genius for maintaining ethnic solidarity by blaming gentiles rather than each other.

    So, instead of depicting Jewish patriarchs holding Jewish women down, we get devious male WASPs turning their wives into Disney animatronics….

    And we even get a Jewish couple (the Markowes), so that we can see that Jewish men are learning sexism from their WASP friends…..who even have an exclusive club ( the Stepford Men’s Association)….

    And the movie ends with a Black couple…..No doubt the husband will soon be indoctrinated in the ways of the vile Anglo-Saxon…..

    • Replies: @Ivy
    More lashing out at the Tsar, now figuratively. Next, what to do with all that new freedom to think and act? Cooped up in shtetls for centuries and now loosed upon a world ill-prepared to anticipate the 'creative ferment', Sarah vs. Seth, and socialism to prevent any return to bad ways.
  32. @MC
    Did you catch this line?

    "When Hillary described half of Trump's followers as 'deplorables,' she wasn't wrong."

    Well, that settles that, then.

    Hey, that term is so ’16 anymore. According to a USA Today that I tripped over coming out of my motel room the other morning, Trump’s cabinet picks, at least, are a bunch of “Disrupters”. I’d love to be known as a Disrupter!

    Call me A.E Newman, Disrupter, handyman, and general gadfly. I’ll get some bidness cards printed up prontomundo.

  33. Why does Obama’s mother-in-law live in the white house? Indeed, it’s comedy gold nobody dared to touch.

    https://pjmedia.com/blog/why-does-michelle-obamas-mother-live-at-the-white-house/

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Here's an interesting article about how the hotel staff (in China) got irritated at Michelle's mom.

    If you click on a link, you'll also see an interesting picture of Michelle as she's being escorted by lots of Asian-American secret service officers. It's really something else to see a really tall black woman surrounded by lots of short Asian men.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2586367/Beijing-hotel-workers-fed-Obama-entourage-3400-square-foot-8-350-night-suite-inconveniencing-pretty-ladys-mother-barking-staff.html
  34. @fnn
    "Michael Enoch" just lost his six-figure job and his (Jewish) wife for telling Jewish jokes.

    ““Michael Enoch” just lost his six-figure job and his (Jewish) wife for telling Jewish jokes.”

    Jewish jokes that contained Jewish death threats.

    • Replies: @27 year old
    >Jewish death threats.


    ... Eye roll ...
  35. Like I’ve been saying, a lot of 1969 era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments — especially by higher IQ daughters annoyed that their dumber brothers got more help with their education expenses from their parents

    For this to be true you need to posit all of the following:

    1. There were a lot of shrewish ambitious young Jewish women in the late 60’s;

    2. Who had brothers;

    3. Whose brothers were also bookish and intelligent;

    4. Whose bookish and intelligent brothers were preferred by their parents;

    5. Whose parents were financially constrained to the point they could not afford to fully pay for educations for all of their children, but not so constrained they could pay for their sons’ education; and

    6. The likely negligible number of women meeting every one of these criteria were an important factor in the rise of feminism, as opposed to the technological economic forces that greatly decreased the relative value of physical strength in the labor market, but increased it for more womanly service sector jobs.

    I think a better explanation is that the economic and technological factors in point 6 were overwhelming, the late 60’s to early 80’s were the demographic peak of American Ashkenazi, whose natural talent for advocacy makes them a highly disproportionate share of essentially every group of intellectuals, especially during that period.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I'd actually argue all your conditions are met in a fair number of people, it's just that feminism was a lot more than an intra-Jewish spat. Labor-saving devices meant housewives had a lot of time to kill, and some of them got it into their heads they could do their husbands' jobs better than their husbands could.
    , @Jack D
    This reminds me of Steve's theory that Jewish anger at being excluded from WASP country clubs is just displaced anger by Ostjuden excluded from German Jewish clubs - another evidence free speculation. One of the things that makes leftist intellectuals so infuriating is that they just talk out of their whereever about things that they know nothing about. Steve is at his best when he backs his arguments with hatefacts and not idle speculation as to motivation.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Also, as Steve himself has pointed out (for example, in his review of that women miners movie starring Charlize Theron), corporate America had an interest in doubling the labor force to keep down wages.
  36. Its almost as if the Jews are the new WASPS.

    • Replies: @utu
    "Its almost as if the Jews are the new WASPS."

    Minus being tactful.
  37. @Sandy Berger's Socks
    Has any president in American history ever been less mocked or joked about?

    Is it healthy for a democracy to have a leader that it is taboo to joke publicly about?

    His effect on the national psyche/mood might have been as bad as his policies.

    Has any president in American history ever been less mocked or joked about?

    To be fair about Obama, has any president ever really done less than no drama Obama?

  38. I find it interesting that Obama’s mother-in-law has received absolutely no press coverage in the last 8 years. This despite the fact she has been living in the White House for last 8 years.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    I wasn't even aware of this fact.
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    "Mama" did get a little alt-on line coverage on the fambly bar-b-que junket to China where they dined on greasy bar-b-que yak ribs. The reason the establishment lügenpresse gave her no coverage to speak of is because she is such an uncultured lout and couldn't figure a 15% to 20% tip in her head even if she wanted to leave a tip.
  39. @fnn
    "Michael Enoch" just lost his six-figure job and his (Jewish) wife for telling Jewish jokes.

    “Michael Enoch” just lost his six-figure job and his (Jewish) wife for telling Jewish jokes.

    I have a certain amount of sympathy for the man; if my colleagues ever found out about what I post here……Well, let’s just say that my academic career would be over.

    That being said, he had to to know that this was coming. Once he reached a certain level of prominence, it was inevitable.

  40. PrissFactor/Donut/DominiqueFrancon/Anonymy/Jenner/DNATurtles/[Insert Whatever name he’s using this week] actually had a good comment on this topic.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-cultural-studies-retractions/#comment-780380

    War of the Sexes is essentially a war between Jewish men and Jewish women but fought on the battleground of the goy body.
    No bunch of men have done more to ‘objectify’ the female body in the modern world than Jews have. Sure, ancient Greeks were into nude statues and Renaissance painters were nude-ists too, but they presented nudity in artful and beautiful manner(though not always).
    But modern Jewish men have often presented the female body in porny ways. I recall Suzanne Somers married some Jewish guy in the 70s.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/suzanne-somers-on-surviving-cancer-gay-men-and-drag-queens-and-of-course-the-thighmaster

    The Jewish guy, Alan Hamel, was interviewed by Barbara Walters in the 70s, and when asked why he married Somers, he said something like “I wondered what she would look like naked.” This was the feminist 70s so, even as a kid, I was shocked that some guy would speak so frankly. But frank he was indeed. I mean no one would marry Somers for her brains, right? But I recall Walters’ disapproving demeanor. It was truly a Portnoyic or Portnographic moment. A Jewish guy married some ‘shikse’ because he was slobbering about thinking about her BODY, not her brains.
    And of course, Marilyn Monroe was the ultimate ‘white meat’. (Ron Rosenbaum should write a piece on that.) Though she tried to educate herself and read books, the only thing that interested Jewish men about her was her tits and ass.
    It’s all there in PORTNOY’S COMPLAINT. It’s not about Jewish men interested in white women’s brains, hearts, or souls. It’s about pretty face, breasts, ass, and pooter. And Jews were heavily involved in porn in Europe and especially in America. And porn was certainly mostly about using white women as OBJECTS of sexual lust.
    So, if any bunch of men did most to objectify the female body, it was Jews. And it was especially the WHITE female body. Conservatives were opposed to porn, and even most white liberals were uneasy with that stuff as wasps were of puritanical background and Catholics were sexually uneasy about such stuff.
    But in images and words, Jewish men were pioneers of openly dealing with male lust issues. And lust was about the body, not about the brains.
    Hollywood had many glamorous stars. But in the old days, censorship dampened and restrained open sexuality. But with the end of censorship in the late 60s and early 70s, the female body could be fully ‘objectified’ and ‘commoditized’ as sexual playthings. And Jewish men were at the forefront of this. Even blaxploitation movies that promoted interracism were mostly made by Jewish men.
    Though it was about lust, some Jewish porn-meisters sought intellectual justification by invoking Freud. So, it was healthy and natural for men to openly lust after female bodies and confess their ‘boing’-ish desires. Russ Meyers!
    Since Jewish women had big noses and were overly brainy, Jewish men were Portnoic in their lust for white shikse, especially the blondes. It’s like the guy in HEARTBREAK KID has no interest in Cybil Sheperd’s brains. It’s all her about sex appeal. And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie(who ended up badly, killed by jealous hubby; idiot thought he could ride her sex appeal to fame, not realizing that her fame would serve as a wedge between her and him; why would a woman hang with a loser when winner-men are after her?)
    In terms of racial dynamics, white Jewish men preferred to ‘objectify’ the white female, but when it came to blacks they preferred to ‘objectify’ the black male. Black women could sing, and they had fit bodies, but their faces looked too funky-wunky. So, black women weren’t really objects of sexual desire. In contrast, black men were winning in sports, the most prominent domain of male competition in the American mythology. Since promoting black male as the New Tough Man had a wussifying effect on white males, Jewish men did so, albeit with some trepidation(as, like Donald Sterling, Jewish men were also intimidated by blacks.) On the one hand, Jewish men enjoyed watching white guys get beaten and pushed aside by black males. They enjoyed the spectacle of white women going off with black men and making white guys feel like a bunch of losers. As Jews remembered how they’d been ‘dissed’ by snobby Wasps and big strong ‘polacks’(who stole lunch money), they got their racial-sexual vengeance through blacks. Especially because blacks worked for Jews in sports and media, Jews could even see blacks as their sexual-cultural agents. (Though white gentile hostility toward Jews has been greatly exaggerated, Jewish sensitivity is understandable since negative experiences or perceptions are more long-lasting and impacting than positive or mundane experiences. If a Jew has experiences with a 100 wasps, and if 98 treat him nice or normally while 2 really put him down, his experiences with the 2 will have a more powerfully long-lasting effect than his experience with the 98. It’s like most movie audience could be quiet and well-behaved and only a handful could be rowdy and disruptive, but you’re more likely to remember the rowdy ones than the fact that most audience members were quiet and normal. Jewish sensitivity is also paranoid to some extent. Oftentimes, it wasn’t a matter of how wasps really treated Jews but how Jews suspected wasps were feeling about Jews. It’s like the scene in CARRIE where Carrie thinks everyone is laughing at her at the prom when most of them were not.)
    And yet, the Jewish male all-out-objectification of the female coincided with the rise of feminism that was dominated by Jewish women. So, Jewish men were going out of their way to promote the image of the women as a big-tits-ass-pooter, and Jewish women were bitching about how the woman was being ‘objectified’ than admired for her brains and heart. But what Jewish women left out of their criticism was that Jewish men were the main players in the ‘objectification’ of women. They also failed to mention that Jewish men ‘objectified’ white women as objects of lust than any other women. (On the one hand, brainy Jewish women were insulted that women were being seen primarily as sexual trophies than as intellectual/creative equals of men. On the other hand, they were envious of the fact that blonde shikses with pretty looks were idolized by Jewish men. To brainy and big-nosed Jewish women, Jewish male fixation on the ‘shikse’ was like worship of false idols. Instead of respecting Jewish female intellectual ‘spirit’, Jewish men were drooling over tits and ass of white women.)
    Jewish men and Jewish women were battling one another, but the Jewish aspect of this was hidden, and the debate was turned into an abstract one of ‘patriarchy’ vs ‘women’s liberation’. But if anything, traditional patriarchy had disapproved of the sexual objectification of women and denounced Jewish role in vice industries.
    So often, the core battle is really among Jews, but it’s goyim who are used as battleground and it’s goyim who are recruited as cannon fodder(and who ultimately get the blame).
    We see this with Liberal Zionist vs Neocons too. Both sides are Jewish and have common interests, but they differ on strategy and tactics. But instead of just arguing Jew-vs-Jew, they use goy fronts and buffers so that the argument seems to be between ‘Democrats’ and ‘Republicans’, even though most gentiles, if left to their own devices, wouldn’t give a crap about stuff that Jews care about so much. If not for Jewish media domination, most Americans wouldn’t care about middle east problems or Ukraine.
    Since Jews want us to do their bidding, the Jewish family feud becomes our feud, and because we gentiles end up fighting one another, paradoxically the Jewish antagonists draw closer.
    Imagine a Jewish man and Jewish woman bickering with one another and boiling with anger. But instead of keeping it to themselves, the Jewish man persuades a whole bunch of gentile men to argue on his behalf, and the Jewish woman does the same with a whole bunch of gentile women to do likewise on her behalf. In time, idiot gentile men and idiot gentile women are at each other’s throats, and the Jewish man and Jewish woman look upon the big fight with amusement and laugh together.
    We might as well be living in cartoon world.

    • LOL: Clyde
    • Replies: @syonredux

    . And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie
     
    He was half-Ashkenazi, half-Serbian:

    Bogdanovich was born in Kingston, New York, the son of Herma (née Robinson)(1904-???) and Borislav Bogdanovich (1899-1970), a painter and pianist. His Austrian-born mother was Jewish whose family moved from Vienna to Zagreb, Croatia in 1932, while his father was a Serbian Orthodox Christian;[2] the two arrived in the U.S. in May 1939.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bogdanovich#Early_life
    , @Autochthon
    Some compelling theories here, but I had to stop reading; for the love of God the writer must occasionally use indentation or line-spacing to create paragraphs so his readers' eyes don't bleed.
    , @Jack D
    That's right - that's why the biggest pornographer of the post-war period was the Jew Hugh Hefner, with 2nd rank held by the Jew Bob Guccione and third place by the Jew Larry Flynt. And who can forget that work of Jewish pornography, I Am Curious (Yellow). And what of the Jew Chuck Traynor who forced his wife Linda Lovelace into porn? All Joos I tell you, all of them.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    PrissFactor/Donut/DominiqueFrancon/Anonymy/Jenner/DNATurtles/[Insert Whatever name he's using this week]
     
    I think Priss was a she.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Interesting block quote, Johnny, but I can’t take credit for it. I’m too vain to use different handles—I wouldn’t want any of my bon mots and pithy compositions to get lost in the aether! ahahahaha
    , @Luke Lea
    Something to that.
    One aspect I've never seen discussed is the role that sexual selection played in the emergence of female beauty -- blue-eyed nordic blonds in particular -- and its relative absence for over a thousand year in the Eastern European culture of Ashkenazi Jews, where, especially at the apex, marriages were arranged between the daughters of the most successful merchants and the most promising Torah scholars. In other words, brains were selected over looks for many generations despite the fact that looks are and will probably always be uppermost in male eyes when it comes to what is sexually attractive.

    Not that there aren't plenty of attractive Ashkenazi women, of which I've known quite a few.
  41. America’s First Jewish President.

    Trump’s accent sounds old fashioned NY Jewish to me, not that different from Don Rickles actually. Closer to Rickles than to fellow gentile Rudy Guiliani.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    Trump's accent/elocution is classic Queens, including his sentence/speaking structure. Rickles is similarly from Queens. Rudy Giuliani is from Brooklyn.
  42. in a house full of Holocaust books, giggling at Mel Brooks’s “The Producers,”

    Has anyone started talking about how “problematic” the film’s Gay jokes are?

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    I actually know a gay man (former Broadway chorus dancer) who walked out of the stage version of The Producers when it first came out, furious at the depiction of homosexuals in it.

    Bear in mind this was a gay former Broadway dancer who'd worked during the 1970s, so he'd been around when the movie originally came out and had seen the gay lifestyle up close. Yet by the 2000s he was all huffy that Brooks's show kept the old gay-jokes in.
    , @Forbes

    in a house full of Holocaust books
     
    Kinda says it all, doesn't it? How many do you need?
  43. @JohnnyD
    It also didn't help Hillary's chances that she's completely humorless. The same could be said about her supporters, particularly her female supporters.

    The humorlessness of feminists has always been a weak point.

    Blacks activists are not famous for their humor either, but they at least at the intimidation factor of being men.

    Feminists can’t physically intimidate men, but haven’t learned the shorter/weaker guy technique of using humor to gain power over the group if you can’t scare them. In fact, they take the opposite route: don’t be funny, and ruthlessly police everyone’s jokes.

    Black activists will at least allow mild racial humor to be made (it’s the non-blacks who get all upset at it).

    One thing I noted about the article was a discussion of Mad Men and how the women in the show “lost no matter what they did” when it came to joshing around. Typical female whining: they want to be treated like one of the boys, but when they are they can’t take it like the boys. This is why we had separate rules for men and women, ladies!

  44. @JohnnyWalker123
    PrissFactor/Donut/DominiqueFrancon/Anonymy/Jenner/DNATurtles/[Insert Whatever name he's using this week] actually had a good comment on this topic.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-cultural-studies-retractions/#comment-780380

    War of the Sexes is essentially a war between Jewish men and Jewish women but fought on the battleground of the goy body.
    No bunch of men have done more to ‘objectify’ the female body in the modern world than Jews have. Sure, ancient Greeks were into nude statues and Renaissance painters were nude-ists too, but they presented nudity in artful and beautiful manner(though not always).
    But modern Jewish men have often presented the female body in porny ways. I recall Suzanne Somers married some Jewish guy in the 70s.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/suzanne-somers-on-surviving-cancer-gay-men-and-drag-queens-and-of-course-the-thighmaster

    The Jewish guy, Alan Hamel, was interviewed by Barbara Walters in the 70s, and when asked why he married Somers, he said something like “I wondered what she would look like naked.” This was the feminist 70s so, even as a kid, I was shocked that some guy would speak so frankly. But frank he was indeed. I mean no one would marry Somers for her brains, right? But I recall Walters’ disapproving demeanor. It was truly a Portnoyic or Portnographic moment. A Jewish guy married some ‘shikse’ because he was slobbering about thinking about her BODY, not her brains.
    And of course, Marilyn Monroe was the ultimate ‘white meat’. (Ron Rosenbaum should write a piece on that.) Though she tried to educate herself and read books, the only thing that interested Jewish men about her was her tits and ass.
    It’s all there in PORTNOY’S COMPLAINT. It’s not about Jewish men interested in white women’s brains, hearts, or souls. It’s about pretty face, breasts, ass, and pooter. And Jews were heavily involved in porn in Europe and especially in America. And porn was certainly mostly about using white women as OBJECTS of sexual lust.
    So, if any bunch of men did most to objectify the female body, it was Jews. And it was especially the WHITE female body. Conservatives were opposed to porn, and even most white liberals were uneasy with that stuff as wasps were of puritanical background and Catholics were sexually uneasy about such stuff.
    But in images and words, Jewish men were pioneers of openly dealing with male lust issues. And lust was about the body, not about the brains.
    Hollywood had many glamorous stars. But in the old days, censorship dampened and restrained open sexuality. But with the end of censorship in the late 60s and early 70s, the female body could be fully ‘objectified’ and ‘commoditized’ as sexual playthings. And Jewish men were at the forefront of this. Even blaxploitation movies that promoted interracism were mostly made by Jewish men.
    Though it was about lust, some Jewish porn-meisters sought intellectual justification by invoking Freud. So, it was healthy and natural for men to openly lust after female bodies and confess their ‘boing’-ish desires. Russ Meyers!
    Since Jewish women had big noses and were overly brainy, Jewish men were Portnoic in their lust for white shikse, especially the blondes. It’s like the guy in HEARTBREAK KID has no interest in Cybil Sheperd’s brains. It’s all her about sex appeal. And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie(who ended up badly, killed by jealous hubby; idiot thought he could ride her sex appeal to fame, not realizing that her fame would serve as a wedge between her and him; why would a woman hang with a loser when winner-men are after her?)
    In terms of racial dynamics, white Jewish men preferred to ‘objectify’ the white female, but when it came to blacks they preferred to ‘objectify’ the black male. Black women could sing, and they had fit bodies, but their faces looked too funky-wunky. So, black women weren’t really objects of sexual desire. In contrast, black men were winning in sports, the most prominent domain of male competition in the American mythology. Since promoting black male as the New Tough Man had a wussifying effect on white males, Jewish men did so, albeit with some trepidation(as, like Donald Sterling, Jewish men were also intimidated by blacks.) On the one hand, Jewish men enjoyed watching white guys get beaten and pushed aside by black males. They enjoyed the spectacle of white women going off with black men and making white guys feel like a bunch of losers. As Jews remembered how they’d been ‘dissed’ by snobby Wasps and big strong ‘polacks’(who stole lunch money), they got their racial-sexual vengeance through blacks. Especially because blacks worked for Jews in sports and media, Jews could even see blacks as their sexual-cultural agents. (Though white gentile hostility toward Jews has been greatly exaggerated, Jewish sensitivity is understandable since negative experiences or perceptions are more long-lasting and impacting than positive or mundane experiences. If a Jew has experiences with a 100 wasps, and if 98 treat him nice or normally while 2 really put him down, his experiences with the 2 will have a more powerfully long-lasting effect than his experience with the 98. It’s like most movie audience could be quiet and well-behaved and only a handful could be rowdy and disruptive, but you’re more likely to remember the rowdy ones than the fact that most audience members were quiet and normal. Jewish sensitivity is also paranoid to some extent. Oftentimes, it wasn’t a matter of how wasps really treated Jews but how Jews suspected wasps were feeling about Jews. It’s like the scene in CARRIE where Carrie thinks everyone is laughing at her at the prom when most of them were not.)
    And yet, the Jewish male all-out-objectification of the female coincided with the rise of feminism that was dominated by Jewish women. So, Jewish men were going out of their way to promote the image of the women as a big-tits-ass-pooter, and Jewish women were bitching about how the woman was being ‘objectified’ than admired for her brains and heart. But what Jewish women left out of their criticism was that Jewish men were the main players in the ‘objectification’ of women. They also failed to mention that Jewish men ‘objectified’ white women as objects of lust than any other women. (On the one hand, brainy Jewish women were insulted that women were being seen primarily as sexual trophies than as intellectual/creative equals of men. On the other hand, they were envious of the fact that blonde shikses with pretty looks were idolized by Jewish men. To brainy and big-nosed Jewish women, Jewish male fixation on the ‘shikse’ was like worship of false idols. Instead of respecting Jewish female intellectual ‘spirit’, Jewish men were drooling over tits and ass of white women.)
    Jewish men and Jewish women were battling one another, but the Jewish aspect of this was hidden, and the debate was turned into an abstract one of ‘patriarchy’ vs ‘women’s liberation’. But if anything, traditional patriarchy had disapproved of the sexual objectification of women and denounced Jewish role in vice industries.
    So often, the core battle is really among Jews, but it’s goyim who are used as battleground and it’s goyim who are recruited as cannon fodder(and who ultimately get the blame).
    We see this with Liberal Zionist vs Neocons too. Both sides are Jewish and have common interests, but they differ on strategy and tactics. But instead of just arguing Jew-vs-Jew, they use goy fronts and buffers so that the argument seems to be between ‘Democrats’ and ‘Republicans’, even though most gentiles, if left to their own devices, wouldn’t give a crap about stuff that Jews care about so much. If not for Jewish media domination, most Americans wouldn’t care about middle east problems or Ukraine.
    Since Jews want us to do their bidding, the Jewish family feud becomes our feud, and because we gentiles end up fighting one another, paradoxically the Jewish antagonists draw closer.
    Imagine a Jewish man and Jewish woman bickering with one another and boiling with anger. But instead of keeping it to themselves, the Jewish man persuades a whole bunch of gentile men to argue on his behalf, and the Jewish woman does the same with a whole bunch of gentile women to do likewise on her behalf. In time, idiot gentile men and idiot gentile women are at each other’s throats, and the Jewish man and Jewish woman look upon the big fight with amusement and laugh together.
    We might as well be living in cartoon world.
     

    . And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie

    He was half-Ashkenazi, half-Serbian:

    Bogdanovich was born in Kingston, New York, the son of Herma (née Robinson)(1904-???) and Borislav Bogdanovich (1899-1970), a painter and pianist. His Austrian-born mother was Jewish whose family moved from Vienna to Zagreb, Croatia in 1932, while his father was a Serbian Orthodox Christian;[2] the two arrived in the U.S. in May 1939.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bogdanovich#Early_life

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    Bogdanovich is my favorite ascot-wearing arrogant film snob/living Hollywood character.

    The first few times I saw him interviewed, I was positive it was an act, some comedian doing an over-the-top character of a name-dropping, ascot-wearing, affected-speaking, one-movie-famous 1970s has-been auteur.

    But then I found out: oh no, this man is actually seriously like this!

    The man's saving grace is his vast knowledge of film; he is excellent when he's giving the commentary track to a film. But it's still hilarious to hear that put-upon, supercillious accent go off on a tangent dropping names about a Hollywood party, and giving the worst (and unintentionally hilarious) impressions of the famous Hollywood folk he's trying to impress you with (his horrific, serious impression of John Wayne that I heard had me in stitches).
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Bogdonavich married Dorothy Stratton's sister.
  45. @BB753
    Why does Obama's mother-in-law live in the white house? Indeed, it's comedy gold nobody dared to touch.

    https://pjmedia.com/blog/why-does-michelle-obamas-mother-live-at-the-white-house/

    Here’s an interesting article about how the hotel staff (in China) got irritated at Michelle’s mom.

    If you click on a link, you’ll also see an interesting picture of Michelle as she’s being escorted by lots of Asian-American secret service officers. It’s really something else to see a really tall black woman surrounded by lots of short Asian men.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2586367/Beijing-hotel-workers-fed-Obama-entourage-3400-square-foot-8-350-night-suite-inconveniencing-pretty-ladys-mother-barking-staff.html

  46. If satire “worked,” then the Charlie Hebdo offices would have been splattered with Muslim terrorist blood, not that of the cartoonists.

    http://takimag.com/article/typhoid_bono_testifies_kathy_shaidle

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    Humor is a good way to keep the morale of your side up, as many a commander in war time/exploration has found, sponsoring the men to do little shows during voyages and long marches to keep the boys laughing or hissing at the enemy.

    But it's a lousy way of getting the other side to give up, unless you've completely eliminated their entertainment alternatives. Nobody voluntarily watches crap that's crapping on them.
  47. @syonredux

    in a house full of Holocaust books, giggling at Mel Brooks’s “The Producers,”
     
    Has anyone started talking about how "problematic" the film's Gay jokes are?

    I actually know a gay man (former Broadway chorus dancer) who walked out of the stage version of The Producers when it first came out, furious at the depiction of homosexuals in it.

    Bear in mind this was a gay former Broadway dancer who’d worked during the 1970s, so he’d been around when the movie originally came out and had seen the gay lifestyle up close. Yet by the 2000s he was all huffy that Brooks’s show kept the old gay-jokes in.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    You gotta keep up with the the current Narrative, doncha know.
  48. @carol
    Ah, can you even laugh at "Springtime for Hitler (and Germany)" anymore. I mean, legally, or ethically, or whatever.

    Time to get the DVD again!

    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    • Replies: @syonredux
    I like Young Frankenstein
    , @SFG
    OK, now I'm accusing you of anti-Semitism.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Kathy, Mel Brooks certainly is funny, "Blazing Saddles" is comedy gold, as is "Young Frankenstein." We currently have a Troll in residence here at Steve's blog. You can audition for the role, but bring better material.
    , @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    "Mel Brooks isn’t funny..."
    I'm glad someone said this. Blazing Saddles is crap. Well filmed crap, but crap nonetheless.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I remember seeing Blazing Saddles when it came out and thinking it was hilarious. Watched it again a few years ago and didn't crack a smile. Very heavy-handed and obvious.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Mel Brooks did a one man show at 88 on HBO and it was quite funny.
    , @Mr. Anon
    I thought "The Producers" was clever and relatively funny, for it's time. And I liked "The Twelve Chairs", more just for the story than as a comedy. "Young Frankenstein" wasn't too bad. Everything else he did was crap. On the whole, I agree - Mel Brooks is highly overrated and not especially funny.
    , @Anonymous
    Actually,The Producers is "ha ha only serious"-the basic scenario it posits is something that happens in business every day , more often than you think. As in the case of Sears Roebuck, sometimes Jews are involved (Eddie Lampert) , sometimes it's just regular old goyishe malfeasance-Italian mobsters are famous for the "bust out", which is perhaps the extreme form.

    There are all too many situations where failure of the organization or client can mean a windfall to the management or owners personally.
    , @Cletus Rothschild
    "We’ve already established that I’m a persnickety cinematic party pooper."

    Is that Leftist for "bitch"?
    , @slumber_j

    And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
     
    I've never loved his movies. Then again, he's funny in person, and he is in my very limited experience an exceptionally nice man.

    And then there's the whole Anne Bancroft Question...
    , @I, Libertine
    It's no coincidence the the Gene Wilder movies are the only ones that hold up. Overrated, but at least OK - saved by Wilder's (and, in the case of The Producers, Mostel's) charisma.

    The rest is crap. Naked emperor. If you say you think otherwise, I don't believe you. You don't believe you.
  49. @Kyle McKenna

    It’s almost as if Trump is America’s First Jewish President.
     
    Heh! We've had so many First Jewish Presidents at this point that by the time we get a 'real' one it's going to feel a tad anti-climactic.

    But who needs a president, anyway? Just a figurehead to absorb abuse, amirite? Better a shabbas goy for that job.

    And further: this reminds me of the old saw in Israel about becoming the 51st state. "Why would we ever settle for two senators when we already have a hundred?"

    And further: this reminds me of the old saw in Israel about becoming the 51st state. “Why would we ever settle for two senators when we already have a hundred?”

    All 100 Senators, yes, but Israel is unfortunately missing 8 Congressmen.

    The “emergency” $225 million funding bill for Israel’s Iron Dome defense during 2014’s unpleasantness in Gaza passed the Senate without any no votes, but received a mere 395-8 majority in the house. In case you were wondering:

    The four Democrats were Keith Ellison (MN-05), Zoe Lofgren (CA-19), Jim Moran (VA-08), and Beto O’Rourke (TX-16).

    The four Republicans are Justin Amash (MI-03), Walter Jones (NC-03), Tom Massie (KY-04), and Mark Sanford (SC-01).

    I really like Amash and Jones, sorry to see them on this list. Never heard of Massie, and all I know about Sanford is his hilarious affair with the Argentine less attractive than his wife and the “hiking the Appalachian Trial” excuse for his secret trip to Argentina. Between Strom’s black maid love child, Sanford, Nikki Haley’s affair, and the stories we all prefer not to hear about Lindsay Graham, South Carolina has a rather French indifference to the sex lives of its public officials.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    In one of his speeches on the campaign trail, Trump implied that Lindsey Graham and John McCain are secret gay lovers.
    , @Kyle McKenna

    I really like Amash and Jones, sorry to see them on this list.
     
    The short list of eight congressmen who dare to defy the juggernaut?

    Am I reading you correctly here?
  50. @syonredux

    . And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie
     
    He was half-Ashkenazi, half-Serbian:

    Bogdanovich was born in Kingston, New York, the son of Herma (née Robinson)(1904-???) and Borislav Bogdanovich (1899-1970), a painter and pianist. His Austrian-born mother was Jewish whose family moved from Vienna to Zagreb, Croatia in 1932, while his father was a Serbian Orthodox Christian;[2] the two arrived in the U.S. in May 1939.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bogdanovich#Early_life

    Bogdanovich is my favorite ascot-wearing arrogant film snob/living Hollywood character.

    The first few times I saw him interviewed, I was positive it was an act, some comedian doing an over-the-top character of a name-dropping, ascot-wearing, affected-speaking, one-movie-famous 1970s has-been auteur.

    But then I found out: oh no, this man is actually seriously like this!

    The man’s saving grace is his vast knowledge of film; he is excellent when he’s giving the commentary track to a film. But it’s still hilarious to hear that put-upon, supercillious accent go off on a tangent dropping names about a Hollywood party, and giving the worst (and unintentionally hilarious) impressions of the famous Hollywood folk he’s trying to impress you with (his horrific, serious impression of John Wayne that I heard had me in stitches).

    • Replies: @syonredux
    A nice scene from Targets; Karloff and Bogdanavich watching Karloff in Howard Hawks' The Criminal Code


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De2hVv3dQCs
    , @keuril
    The Bogdanovich interview is one of the better ones on the Bret Easton Ellis podcast.
  51. @syonredux

    a lot of 1969 era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments

    On the other hand, The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs, of the Aryan Darien variety, and was horribly cruel to shiksas. Its “feminism” was just a cover story.
     
    Well yes, but that goes along with the other half of Steve's theory:

    that got transmuted into anger at Society in general by the Jewish genius for maintaining ethnic solidarity by blaming gentiles rather than each other.
     
    So, instead of depicting Jewish patriarchs holding Jewish women down, we get devious male WASPs turning their wives into Disney animatronics....

    And we even get a Jewish couple (the Markowes), so that we can see that Jewish men are learning sexism from their WASP friends.....who even have an exclusive club ( the Stepford Men's Association)....

    And the movie ends with a Black couple.....No doubt the husband will soon be indoctrinated in the ways of the vile Anglo-Saxon.....

    More lashing out at the Tsar, now figuratively. Next, what to do with all that new freedom to think and act? Cooped up in shtetls for centuries and now loosed upon a world ill-prepared to anticipate the ‘creative ferment’, Sarah vs. Seth, and socialism to prevent any return to bad ways.

  52. @Lot

    And further: this reminds me of the old saw in Israel about becoming the 51st state. “Why would we ever settle for two senators when we already have a hundred?”
     
    All 100 Senators, yes, but Israel is unfortunately missing 8 Congressmen.

    The "emergency" $225 million funding bill for Israel's Iron Dome defense during 2014's unpleasantness in Gaza passed the Senate without any no votes, but received a mere 395-8 majority in the house. In case you were wondering:

    The four Democrats were Keith Ellison (MN-05), Zoe Lofgren (CA-19), Jim Moran (VA-08), and Beto O'Rourke (TX-16).

    The four Republicans are Justin Amash (MI-03), Walter Jones (NC-03), Tom Massie (KY-04), and Mark Sanford (SC-01).
     
    I really like Amash and Jones, sorry to see them on this list. Never heard of Massie, and all I know about Sanford is his hilarious affair with the Argentine less attractive than his wife and the "hiking the Appalachian Trial" excuse for his secret trip to Argentina. Between Strom's black maid love child, Sanford, Nikki Haley's affair, and the stories we all prefer not to hear about Lindsay Graham, South Carolina has a rather French indifference to the sex lives of its public officials.

    In one of his speeches on the campaign trail, Trump implied that Lindsey Graham and John McCain are secret gay lovers.

    • Replies: @Lot
    McCain strikes me as extremely heterosexual. He likely has a multi generation Navy man's tolerance for sodomy.

    When and why did Winston Churchill say: 'The traditions of the Royal Navy are rum, sodomy and the lash'?

    ...The Oxford Dictionary suggests that Churchill's phrase should be compared with naval phrases dating from the 19th century - 'Rum, bum and bacca' and 'Ashore, it's wine, women and song, aboard it's rum, bum and concertina'.

    It looks as though here, as elsewhere, Churchill took an earlier quotation and improved upon it. In The Irrepressible Churchill, compiled by Kay Halle (Robson Books, 1985), Churchill is said to have used the phrase in 1913, when he was First Lord of the Admiralty. According to 'an ear-witness', he was having trouble with some of his admirals at a strategy meeting. One of them accused him of having impugned the traditions of the Royal Navy, provoking the reply: 'And what are they? They are rum, sodomy and the lash'.
     
    , @snorlax
    Ew.
    , @snorlax
    Perhaps they're defecting to the Lemon Party?
  53. @Kathy Shaidle
    If satire “worked,” then the Charlie Hebdo offices would have been splattered with Muslim terrorist blood, not that of the cartoonists.

    http://takimag.com/article/typhoid_bono_testifies_kathy_shaidle

    Humor is a good way to keep the morale of your side up, as many a commander in war time/exploration has found, sponsoring the men to do little shows during voyages and long marches to keep the boys laughing or hissing at the enemy.

    But it’s a lousy way of getting the other side to give up, unless you’ve completely eliminated their entertainment alternatives. Nobody voluntarily watches crap that’s crapping on them.

    • Replies: @PapayaSF
    True, on its own, humor is not a way to convince the other side to give up. But mockery can demoralize an enemy, and desanctify their goals, heroes, and values.
  54. @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    I like Young Frankenstein

  55. Good thing Woody Guthrie’s guitar only killed fascists, not totalitarians in general, or it would have been suicidal for him to play it.

    As George Orwell wrote, “The sin of nearly all left-wingers from 1933 onward is that they have wanted to be anti-Fascist without being anti-totalitarian.”

    • Agree: utu
  56. @whorefinder
    Bogdanovich is my favorite ascot-wearing arrogant film snob/living Hollywood character.

    The first few times I saw him interviewed, I was positive it was an act, some comedian doing an over-the-top character of a name-dropping, ascot-wearing, affected-speaking, one-movie-famous 1970s has-been auteur.

    But then I found out: oh no, this man is actually seriously like this!

    The man's saving grace is his vast knowledge of film; he is excellent when he's giving the commentary track to a film. But it's still hilarious to hear that put-upon, supercillious accent go off on a tangent dropping names about a Hollywood party, and giving the worst (and unintentionally hilarious) impressions of the famous Hollywood folk he's trying to impress you with (his horrific, serious impression of John Wayne that I heard had me in stitches).

    A nice scene from Targets; Karloff and Bogdanavich watching Karloff in Howard Hawks’ The Criminal Code

  57. @JohnnyWalker123
    In one of his speeches on the campaign trail, Trump implied that Lindsey Graham and John McCain are secret gay lovers.

    McCain strikes me as extremely heterosexual. He likely has a multi generation Navy man’s tolerance for sodomy.

    When and why did Winston Churchill say: ‘The traditions of the Royal Navy are rum, sodomy and the lash’?

    …The Oxford Dictionary suggests that Churchill’s phrase should be compared with naval phrases dating from the 19th century – ‘Rum, bum and bacca’ and ‘Ashore, it’s wine, women and song, aboard it’s rum, bum and concertina’.

    It looks as though here, as elsewhere, Churchill took an earlier quotation and improved upon it. In The Irrepressible Churchill, compiled by Kay Halle (Robson Books, 1985), Churchill is said to have used the phrase in 1913, when he was First Lord of the Admiralty. According to ‘an ear-witness’, he was having trouble with some of his admirals at a strategy meeting. One of them accused him of having impugned the traditions of the Royal Navy, provoking the reply: ‘And what are they? They are rum, sodomy and the lash’.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Ralph Keyes, in The Quote Verifier, cites Churchill's assistant that his boss told him he never actually said that, but wished he did.
    , @Jack D
    If you're the "top" that means you're not gay. Afghan men don't think of themselves as gay either.
  58. @joeskill
    How many Jews does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    - That's not funny.

    No, there’s actually an answer to that one:

    So, how many Jews does it take to change a lightbulb?

  59. @Lot

    America’s First Jewish President.
     
    Trump's accent sounds old fashioned NY Jewish to me, not that different from Don Rickles actually. Closer to Rickles than to fellow gentile Rudy Guiliani.

    Trump’s accent/elocution is classic Queens, including his sentence/speaking structure. Rickles is similarly from Queens. Rudy Giuliani is from Brooklyn.

  60. @syonredux

    in a house full of Holocaust books, giggling at Mel Brooks’s “The Producers,”
     
    Has anyone started talking about how "problematic" the film's Gay jokes are?

    in a house full of Holocaust books

    Kinda says it all, doesn’t it? How many do you need?

  61. @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    OK, now I’m accusing you of anti-Semitism.

    • Replies: @EriK
    Commenters at Taki's would be puzzled by that take.
  62. @Jefferson
    "“Michael Enoch” just lost his six-figure job and his (Jewish) wife for telling Jewish jokes."

    Jewish jokes that contained Jewish death threats.

    >Jewish death threats.

    … Eye roll …

  63. Off Topic:

    It will be very interesting to see if President Trump ever wears anything other than a suit when he is staging photo ops. The guy always has a tie and leather shoes on except when playing golf.
    I don’t think he even owns a sport coat.

    Most presidents dress up and role play to try and project an image that they are one of us. A fur parka when in the snow, a bomber jacket when hobnobbing with the military, jeans when doing something rugged like chopping wood. Like some first ladies, they wear the dress once then give it to charity or sell it on eBay.

    But Trump has his image. I think I would be disappointed to see him in jeans and a t shirt.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    Trump is very image-conscious. It's an underrated quality in a head of state.
    , @anonguy
    You'll be lucky to see him button his suit coat much less change into something else.

    Dude knows what he is doing with his look and how attentive others are to it.

    This is ammunition, you see, and not to be wasted.

    When you see The Donald dressed differently than his uniform garb, it will be for a big reason. He will be dressed differently in order to get everyone's attention, which is a necessary precursor for delivering his message.

    If you are absolutely consistent in manner/appearance, everyone notices the slightest deviations, so Q.E.D.

    There are other reasons for maintaining uniformity of dress, but nobody said there had to be just one.

    Another one is that nobody tries to read your mood through your dress. It is a tell, really, to be selecting different clothes each day, a bit of a window into someone's mind. Remember, Trump is first and foremost a dealmaker - so he claims - and hence a negotiator.
  64. @Lot

    Like I’ve been saying, a lot of 1969 era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments — especially by higher IQ daughters annoyed that their dumber brothers got more help with their education expenses from their parents
     
    For this to be true you need to posit all of the following:

    1. There were a lot of shrewish ambitious young Jewish women in the late 60's;

    2. Who had brothers;

    3. Whose brothers were also bookish and intelligent;

    4. Whose bookish and intelligent brothers were preferred by their parents;

    5. Whose parents were financially constrained to the point they could not afford to fully pay for educations for all of their children, but not so constrained they could pay for their sons' education; and

    6. The likely negligible number of women meeting every one of these criteria were an important factor in the rise of feminism, as opposed to the technological economic forces that greatly decreased the relative value of physical strength in the labor market, but increased it for more womanly service sector jobs.

    I think a better explanation is that the economic and technological factors in point 6 were overwhelming, the late 60's to early 80's were the demographic peak of American Ashkenazi, whose natural talent for advocacy makes them a highly disproportionate share of essentially every group of intellectuals, especially during that period.

    I’d actually argue all your conditions are met in a fair number of people, it’s just that feminism was a lot more than an intra-Jewish spat. Labor-saving devices meant housewives had a lot of time to kill, and some of them got it into their heads they could do their husbands’ jobs better than their husbands could.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

    Feminists categorized by known religious (or ethnoreligious) affiliation.


    Atheist feminists‎ (71 P)
    Buddhist feminists‎ (18 P)
    Christian feminists‎ (7 C, 33 P)
    Hindu feminists‎ (1 P)
    Islamic feminists‎ (58 P)
    Jain feminists‎ (1 P)
    Jewish feminists‎ (249 P)
    Sikh feminists‎ (1 P)
    Universalist feminists‎ (1 C)
    Wiccan feminists‎ (10 P)
     
    That's a pretty large disproportion.
  65. @fnn
    "Michael Enoch" just lost his six-figure job and his (Jewish) wife for telling Jewish jokes.

    Jewish jokes? He ran a neo-Nazi website. He went a lot further than Tosh.0 or Andrew Dice Clay.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    It was a fake neo-nazi website. The neo-nazi stuff was all meta - a form of trolling.
  66. @Randal
    It's true, though, that comedy shifted from left to right around the same time as freedom of speech shifted from being an issue for the left to one for the right, proving all those former free speech advocates on the left who now support "hate speech" laws to have been straightforward hypocrites and liars all along, and for much the same reasons. One of the features of leaders like Putin and Trump is that they are actually able to joke - I laughed out loud when I heard Putin on BBC radio this evening deadpanning that Russian prostitutes are "of course, the best in the world". I don't recall anything actually funny from the likes of Obama, Cameron, Brown or Blair in their entire careers.

    That's not to say that the vast majority of professional "comedians" aren't still leftist. It will just take a generation for the tired old leftist establishment comedians to get finally discredited or to die off, and to get them shifted off their establishment media perches, by the new, genuinely subversive future comedians of the right.

    Or, alternatively, when the elites who controlled the media were right wing they were much less far seeing about how culture operates than the baby boomers who replaced them. They realized that being youthful and cool was the key to controlling culture in the future, not just being in charge. Therefore, you see the hideous spectacle of lefty boomers who pretend they’ll never age, like the horrifying Mic Jagger. If they admitted they were no longer youthful or cool they would cede all authenticity. Even as the boomers slowly give up the reins, they make sure that their ideological heirs are poised as the “cool” people in media. So therefore you get the similarly horrifying Samantha Bee and Trevor Noah who are truly, truly unfunny who we are sold as the cool heirs of comedy. I think right wing comedians will always be distributed by alternative channels, I doubt there will ever a swing in the zeitgeist where all (or even some) of the mainstream comedians are right wing. Even the most “edgy”, “misogynistic” comedians like Daniel Tosh are as non-threatening as a pussycat when it actually comes to challenging any politically correct pieties beyond feminism.

  67. @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    Kathy, Mel Brooks certainly is funny, “Blazing Saddles” is comedy gold, as is “Young Frankenstein.” We currently have a Troll in residence here at Steve’s blog. You can audition for the role, but bring better material.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
    • LOL: Autochthon
    • Replies: @EriK
    Kathy has a point. Her linked column is worth a read.
    , @Glaivester
    Blazing Saddles strikes me as overrated, being far most earnest than I thought it would be, not really just a zany comedy like, e.g., the Naked Gun.

    I liked The Producers (both versions), and really liked Dracula: Dead and Loving It. Never saw Young Frankenstein.
  68. @JohnnyWalker123
    PrissFactor/Donut/DominiqueFrancon/Anonymy/Jenner/DNATurtles/[Insert Whatever name he's using this week] actually had a good comment on this topic.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-cultural-studies-retractions/#comment-780380

    War of the Sexes is essentially a war between Jewish men and Jewish women but fought on the battleground of the goy body.
    No bunch of men have done more to ‘objectify’ the female body in the modern world than Jews have. Sure, ancient Greeks were into nude statues and Renaissance painters were nude-ists too, but they presented nudity in artful and beautiful manner(though not always).
    But modern Jewish men have often presented the female body in porny ways. I recall Suzanne Somers married some Jewish guy in the 70s.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/suzanne-somers-on-surviving-cancer-gay-men-and-drag-queens-and-of-course-the-thighmaster

    The Jewish guy, Alan Hamel, was interviewed by Barbara Walters in the 70s, and when asked why he married Somers, he said something like “I wondered what she would look like naked.” This was the feminist 70s so, even as a kid, I was shocked that some guy would speak so frankly. But frank he was indeed. I mean no one would marry Somers for her brains, right? But I recall Walters’ disapproving demeanor. It was truly a Portnoyic or Portnographic moment. A Jewish guy married some ‘shikse’ because he was slobbering about thinking about her BODY, not her brains.
    And of course, Marilyn Monroe was the ultimate ‘white meat’. (Ron Rosenbaum should write a piece on that.) Though she tried to educate herself and read books, the only thing that interested Jewish men about her was her tits and ass.
    It’s all there in PORTNOY’S COMPLAINT. It’s not about Jewish men interested in white women’s brains, hearts, or souls. It’s about pretty face, breasts, ass, and pooter. And Jews were heavily involved in porn in Europe and especially in America. And porn was certainly mostly about using white women as OBJECTS of sexual lust.
    So, if any bunch of men did most to objectify the female body, it was Jews. And it was especially the WHITE female body. Conservatives were opposed to porn, and even most white liberals were uneasy with that stuff as wasps were of puritanical background and Catholics were sexually uneasy about such stuff.
    But in images and words, Jewish men were pioneers of openly dealing with male lust issues. And lust was about the body, not about the brains.
    Hollywood had many glamorous stars. But in the old days, censorship dampened and restrained open sexuality. But with the end of censorship in the late 60s and early 70s, the female body could be fully ‘objectified’ and ‘commoditized’ as sexual playthings. And Jewish men were at the forefront of this. Even blaxploitation movies that promoted interracism were mostly made by Jewish men.
    Though it was about lust, some Jewish porn-meisters sought intellectual justification by invoking Freud. So, it was healthy and natural for men to openly lust after female bodies and confess their ‘boing’-ish desires. Russ Meyers!
    Since Jewish women had big noses and were overly brainy, Jewish men were Portnoic in their lust for white shikse, especially the blondes. It’s like the guy in HEARTBREAK KID has no interest in Cybil Sheperd’s brains. It’s all her about sex appeal. And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie(who ended up badly, killed by jealous hubby; idiot thought he could ride her sex appeal to fame, not realizing that her fame would serve as a wedge between her and him; why would a woman hang with a loser when winner-men are after her?)
    In terms of racial dynamics, white Jewish men preferred to ‘objectify’ the white female, but when it came to blacks they preferred to ‘objectify’ the black male. Black women could sing, and they had fit bodies, but their faces looked too funky-wunky. So, black women weren’t really objects of sexual desire. In contrast, black men were winning in sports, the most prominent domain of male competition in the American mythology. Since promoting black male as the New Tough Man had a wussifying effect on white males, Jewish men did so, albeit with some trepidation(as, like Donald Sterling, Jewish men were also intimidated by blacks.) On the one hand, Jewish men enjoyed watching white guys get beaten and pushed aside by black males. They enjoyed the spectacle of white women going off with black men and making white guys feel like a bunch of losers. As Jews remembered how they’d been ‘dissed’ by snobby Wasps and big strong ‘polacks’(who stole lunch money), they got their racial-sexual vengeance through blacks. Especially because blacks worked for Jews in sports and media, Jews could even see blacks as their sexual-cultural agents. (Though white gentile hostility toward Jews has been greatly exaggerated, Jewish sensitivity is understandable since negative experiences or perceptions are more long-lasting and impacting than positive or mundane experiences. If a Jew has experiences with a 100 wasps, and if 98 treat him nice or normally while 2 really put him down, his experiences with the 2 will have a more powerfully long-lasting effect than his experience with the 98. It’s like most movie audience could be quiet and well-behaved and only a handful could be rowdy and disruptive, but you’re more likely to remember the rowdy ones than the fact that most audience members were quiet and normal. Jewish sensitivity is also paranoid to some extent. Oftentimes, it wasn’t a matter of how wasps really treated Jews but how Jews suspected wasps were feeling about Jews. It’s like the scene in CARRIE where Carrie thinks everyone is laughing at her at the prom when most of them were not.)
    And yet, the Jewish male all-out-objectification of the female coincided with the rise of feminism that was dominated by Jewish women. So, Jewish men were going out of their way to promote the image of the women as a big-tits-ass-pooter, and Jewish women were bitching about how the woman was being ‘objectified’ than admired for her brains and heart. But what Jewish women left out of their criticism was that Jewish men were the main players in the ‘objectification’ of women. They also failed to mention that Jewish men ‘objectified’ white women as objects of lust than any other women. (On the one hand, brainy Jewish women were insulted that women were being seen primarily as sexual trophies than as intellectual/creative equals of men. On the other hand, they were envious of the fact that blonde shikses with pretty looks were idolized by Jewish men. To brainy and big-nosed Jewish women, Jewish male fixation on the ‘shikse’ was like worship of false idols. Instead of respecting Jewish female intellectual ‘spirit’, Jewish men were drooling over tits and ass of white women.)
    Jewish men and Jewish women were battling one another, but the Jewish aspect of this was hidden, and the debate was turned into an abstract one of ‘patriarchy’ vs ‘women’s liberation’. But if anything, traditional patriarchy had disapproved of the sexual objectification of women and denounced Jewish role in vice industries.
    So often, the core battle is really among Jews, but it’s goyim who are used as battleground and it’s goyim who are recruited as cannon fodder(and who ultimately get the blame).
    We see this with Liberal Zionist vs Neocons too. Both sides are Jewish and have common interests, but they differ on strategy and tactics. But instead of just arguing Jew-vs-Jew, they use goy fronts and buffers so that the argument seems to be between ‘Democrats’ and ‘Republicans’, even though most gentiles, if left to their own devices, wouldn’t give a crap about stuff that Jews care about so much. If not for Jewish media domination, most Americans wouldn’t care about middle east problems or Ukraine.
    Since Jews want us to do their bidding, the Jewish family feud becomes our feud, and because we gentiles end up fighting one another, paradoxically the Jewish antagonists draw closer.
    Imagine a Jewish man and Jewish woman bickering with one another and boiling with anger. But instead of keeping it to themselves, the Jewish man persuades a whole bunch of gentile men to argue on his behalf, and the Jewish woman does the same with a whole bunch of gentile women to do likewise on her behalf. In time, idiot gentile men and idiot gentile women are at each other’s throats, and the Jewish man and Jewish woman look upon the big fight with amusement and laugh together.
    We might as well be living in cartoon world.
     

    Some compelling theories here, but I had to stop reading; for the love of God the writer must occasionally use indentation or line-spacing to create paragraphs so his readers’ eyes don’t bleed.

  69. @Bob123
    I see that she's Bernard Nussbaum's daughter. Clinton's former White House counsel.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_W._Nussbaum


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4JD8EeTvy4

    When will people stop laughing at these horrible trolls and listen to the voices of the true oppressed minority: the less talented children of extremely powerful Jewish Democrats who want to destroy the country via mass immigration and hate anyone not taking them and their goals VERY seriously.

  70. @Jimi
    I find it interesting that Obama's mother-in-law has received absolutely no press coverage in the last 8 years. This despite the fact she has been living in the White House for last 8 years.

    I wasn’t even aware of this fact.

  71. @Buffalo Joe
    Kathy, Mel Brooks certainly is funny, "Blazing Saddles" is comedy gold, as is "Young Frankenstein." We currently have a Troll in residence here at Steve's blog. You can audition for the role, but bring better material.

    Kathy has a point. Her linked column is worth a read.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    EriK, Every one who comments here has a point, I just happen to disagree with hers. Remember how long ago "Blazing Saddles" was released. You couldn't produce it today accept for the scenes where all the bad guys are Nazi storm troopers, white rapists or Klans men. Otherwise, thank you for the reply.
  72. @Bob123
    I see that she's Bernard Nussbaum's daughter. Clinton's former White House counsel.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_W._Nussbaum


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4JD8EeTvy4

    Bernie should have gone to jail for vacuuming Vince Foster’s office after his suicide, but none of the Clintonistas have suffered much and many have done well.

  73. @SFG
    OK, now I'm accusing you of anti-Semitism.

    Commenters at Taki’s would be puzzled by that take.

    • Replies: @SFG
    It was a joke. Of course Mel Brooks is 1 guy and she can take or leave him.
  74. @Sandy Berger's Socks
    Has any president in American history ever been less mocked or joked about?

    Is it healthy for a democracy to have a leader that it is taboo to joke publicly about?

    His effect on the national psyche/mood might have been as bad as his policies.

    “been less mocked or joked about?” GW, but for good reasons.

  75. @Lot

    And further: this reminds me of the old saw in Israel about becoming the 51st state. “Why would we ever settle for two senators when we already have a hundred?”
     
    All 100 Senators, yes, but Israel is unfortunately missing 8 Congressmen.

    The "emergency" $225 million funding bill for Israel's Iron Dome defense during 2014's unpleasantness in Gaza passed the Senate without any no votes, but received a mere 395-8 majority in the house. In case you were wondering:

    The four Democrats were Keith Ellison (MN-05), Zoe Lofgren (CA-19), Jim Moran (VA-08), and Beto O'Rourke (TX-16).

    The four Republicans are Justin Amash (MI-03), Walter Jones (NC-03), Tom Massie (KY-04), and Mark Sanford (SC-01).
     
    I really like Amash and Jones, sorry to see them on this list. Never heard of Massie, and all I know about Sanford is his hilarious affair with the Argentine less attractive than his wife and the "hiking the Appalachian Trial" excuse for his secret trip to Argentina. Between Strom's black maid love child, Sanford, Nikki Haley's affair, and the stories we all prefer not to hear about Lindsay Graham, South Carolina has a rather French indifference to the sex lives of its public officials.

    I really like Amash and Jones, sorry to see them on this list.

    The short list of eight congressmen who dare to defy the juggernaut?

    Am I reading you correctly here?

    • Replies: @Lot
    You read it right. The list kind of varies depending on the vote. The Republicans on the list are not anti Israel, just anti foreign aid purists.

    There are actually only two hard core anti Israel congressmen, black Muslim Keith Ellison plus Moran in Virginia whose views are typical academic leftist. Cynthia McKinney was also hard core anti Israel, and after she lost her seat in congress in a primary she got involved with the Gaza flotilla crowd. Her Wikipedia is hilarious reading.
  76. @syonredux

    . And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie
     
    He was half-Ashkenazi, half-Serbian:

    Bogdanovich was born in Kingston, New York, the son of Herma (née Robinson)(1904-???) and Borislav Bogdanovich (1899-1970), a painter and pianist. His Austrian-born mother was Jewish whose family moved from Vienna to Zagreb, Croatia in 1932, while his father was a Serbian Orthodox Christian;[2] the two arrived in the U.S. in May 1939.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bogdanovich#Early_life

    Bogdonavich married Dorothy Stratton’s sister.

  77. @whorefinder
    I actually know a gay man (former Broadway chorus dancer) who walked out of the stage version of The Producers when it first came out, furious at the depiction of homosexuals in it.

    Bear in mind this was a gay former Broadway dancer who'd worked during the 1970s, so he'd been around when the movie originally came out and had seen the gay lifestyle up close. Yet by the 2000s he was all huffy that Brooks's show kept the old gay-jokes in.

    You gotta keep up with the the current Narrative, doncha know.

  78. the Rodney Dangerfield “I don’t get no respect” routine

    I’ve been saying since the beginning that Trump is just a Rodney Dangerfield character come to life.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgxzItaQzw
  79. I don’t think it’s all that complicated.

    They’re afraid of blacks. They’re not afraid of whites.

  80. @Anonymous
    NYT column that copies Charles Murray essay:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/technology/how-netflix-is-deepening-our-cultural-echo-chambers.html

    NYT column that copies Charles Murray essay:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/technology/how-netflix-is-deepening-our-cultural-echo-chambers.html

    I saw that. The editors seem to be flailing around, trying to figure out how the impossible happened.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    Crazy idea: NYT attempting some repositioning after the excoriations? They got slammed all around so maybe testing the waters now? Ok, too crazy.
  81. @Maz
    I don't know how much various pro-Trump online comedians and trolls influenced the election, but they were certainly a hoot to follow. I'm thinking of Twitter folks like the Conservative Pundit in his various incarnations and Pax Dickinson (see here for his iconic post-victory pic at Trump's election night event in New York).

    Alt Right Trolls – primarily on Twitter – are almost certainly responsible for exciting the Millennials staffing the Clinton campaign and getting them to convince the old lady to shake her fist at a cartoon frog and his assorted Basket of Deplorables. 99.9% of the electorate had no idea what she was talking about, but probably wondered why she wasn’t talking about jobs and the economy.

    In retrospect you really have to wonder about the hubris and stupidity of Hillary’s engagement in a character and fitness contest as probably the only political figure who would compare unfavorably in such to Trump. You can tell that her most trusted political advisors aren’t allowed to tell her what nearly everyone in the world knows to be a plain fact – no one likes her.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    What was most stunning to me was the cynical Big Lie aspect of "we go high when they go low" when her entire campaign was based on personal character assassination of Trump - the absolutely lowest form of politics.
    , @guest
    I chalk the "deplorables" comment and the whole, stupid anti-alt-right speech to the never-ending Brown Scare/ fascists under the bed obsession on the left and the need for fresh KKK-glue. She sounded exactly like herself in her "vast rightwing conspiracy" days, and was actually milder than Bill blaming Oklahoma City on talk radio. (She was stupider, however, because that wasn't a direct attack on the public and it wasn't during an election.)

    Going after a cartoon frog, on the other hand, was different. Perhaps a sign of things to come in the upside-down age of internet trolling. Let that sink in: a major party candidate in the middle of the presidential campaign took time to go after a cartoon frog simply because people posted intentionally offensive jokes about it. That's almost sad. But there's no room in my heart for pity, because it's full of laughter.

    Granted, they thought it was in the bag at that point.

  82. @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    “Mel Brooks isn’t funny…”
    I’m glad someone said this. Blazing Saddles is crap. Well filmed crap, but crap nonetheless.

    • Agree: Old fogey
    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    Agreed. The Jew is, as an ingenious, didn't-see-that-one-coming twist on all Jewish characters in all Hollywood films ever, smart, honest, generous, funny and compassionate. And horribly put-upon. The black is smart, elegant and cultured, and a good shot. The WASPs are as dumb as dog-dirt, violent, drunk, easily hoodwinked, and sit around farting, if they're not actually retarded (Mongo).

    Same old same old. Sasha Baron Cohen's films are composed of exactly the same rancid lox.
    "Hee hee hee, I'm so clever, ohh so-oo clevercleverclever, you dumbasses can't even see that you're the real targets here .." etc.
    Although the latest, Grimsby, which attempted to denigrate and beclown the English (non-)working class, took a rather satisfying shoeing at the box office, and he seems to have wisely kept his waspish old maid's mouth shut since. As the Brexit and the Trumpening showed, you can only kick a tame dog for so long ..
    We're easy-going, and far too busy to notice your adolescent nonsense, Sasha - but we're not idiots. Watch your step, son.

  83. I don’t see Trump as America’s first Jewish president. I see him as America’s last WASP in New York president. Even his kids aren’t WASPs.

  84. @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    I remember seeing Blazing Saddles when it came out and thinking it was hilarious. Watched it again a few years ago and didn’t crack a smile. Very heavy-handed and obvious.

  85. @Maz
    I don't know how much various pro-Trump online comedians and trolls influenced the election, but they were certainly a hoot to follow. I'm thinking of Twitter folks like the Conservative Pundit in his various incarnations and Pax Dickinson (see here for his iconic post-victory pic at Trump's election night event in New York).

    I enjoyed Conservative Pundit (DemsRRealRacist ?) very much. I hope he resurfaces as a commentator somewhere. I also like Asian Conservative Man.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    He's JBurtonXP now.
  86. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Groton-Dunstable choir cancels Easter performance at Italian basilica under threat of lawsuit
    http://www.lowellsun.com/ci_30732396/groton-dunstable-choir-cancels-easter-performance-at-italian

    Upper-middle class kids from Groton, MA will be denied the opportunity to perform at an Easter concert at St. Anthony’s Basilica in Padua, Italy. One member of the community was behind this lawsuit threat. Fox 25 in Boston interviewed the woman who brought the complaint. She doesn’t have children in the school district and assured Fox 25 her Jewish faith was not a factor in being this complaint.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Reporter Erica Ricci:

    Well, the battle began with a former school committee member here in Groton. She’s Jewish but insists that has nothing to do with this. She doesn’t even have students in the school system, she’s just tells me she’s “out to right a wrong.”
     
    Reminds me of recent shenanigans (#27) at Lexington (yeah, that Lexington) High School. The “school advisors” remain a mystery in that case.
  87. The best joke is the one about how Putin personally decided to have a Manchurian candidate in the elections and chose none other than Donald Trump. Brilliant, how did he know? Was it so obvious in 2013-14 that Trump is unbeatable?

    Something doesn’t add up here. This is a usual sign of a collapsing civilization – acceptance of irrationality.

    • Agree: Travis
  88. @JohnnyWalker123
    In one of his speeches on the campaign trail, Trump implied that Lindsey Graham and John McCain are secret gay lovers.

    Ew.

  89. For the last eight years, the President of the United States has had to share the White House living quarters with his mother-in-law … and, as far as I can tell, not one American television comedian dared to make even a meta-joke about it.

    No doubt Obama has been broadly 0ff-limits to comedians, but c’mon, MIL jokes were corny 40 years ago. They’re hardly found nowadays even in romcoms, sitcoms and children’s entertainment.

  90. @Randal
    It's true, though, that comedy shifted from left to right around the same time as freedom of speech shifted from being an issue for the left to one for the right, proving all those former free speech advocates on the left who now support "hate speech" laws to have been straightforward hypocrites and liars all along, and for much the same reasons. One of the features of leaders like Putin and Trump is that they are actually able to joke - I laughed out loud when I heard Putin on BBC radio this evening deadpanning that Russian prostitutes are "of course, the best in the world". I don't recall anything actually funny from the likes of Obama, Cameron, Brown or Blair in their entire careers.

    That's not to say that the vast majority of professional "comedians" aren't still leftist. It will just take a generation for the tired old leftist establishment comedians to get finally discredited or to die off, and to get them shifted off their establishment media perches, by the new, genuinely subversive future comedians of the right.

    If Larry David is willing to mock his friends, his next season of Curb Your Enthusiasm would be a slam dunk. Just get them talking about Trump on camera.

    Rosie O’Donnell, who was on the last season of Curb, has called for martial law to keep Trump from taking office. Just riff on that. You could have her try to start an insurgency and then realize she needs guns, but they’re a pain to get thanks to gun control, so she tries to get Leon to connect her with a gang member, and he gets offended…

  91. @JohnnyWalker123
    In one of his speeches on the campaign trail, Trump implied that Lindsey Graham and John McCain are secret gay lovers.

    Perhaps they’re defecting to the Lemon Party?

  92. @Achmed E. Newman
    First off, honestly, I hadn't seen New Yorker at the top and didn't know what article you were going to link to, but as soon as I saw the writer's name, I knew what side she was on. That's sad.

    Next, there's:


    The fact that it was mostly men who got to tell the jokes didn’t bother me. Jokes were a superior way to tell the truth—that meant freedom for everyone.
     
    I think it's because men have more of a sense of humor in general, but how many woman comedians are even half-way funny. Men don't bitch about it's mostly women that get to randomly complain for 3-4 days a month.

    OK, so the jokes meant to her "freedom of everyone", but now it's "... the neo-fascist strongman who held the microphone... " OK, what the hell is this "strongman" thing we keep hearing about, first off? Secondly, is this "strongman" telling lies? Is he promoting Fascism or Communism? I bet Trump has a far better idea of what freedom is than anyone that writes for the New Yorker, and he is no Ron Paul.

    I think Miss Nussbaum confuses "rage" at the Trump rallies with "some unabashed truth telling". That's what's freaking her out to where she's lost her sense of humor. I enjoyed the rallies, and people enjoyed my "Lighten up, (Pope) Francis" sign a great deal. (This was when the idiot Commie pope had been interfering in our democratic election process again by running his large pie hole again.)

    The “rage” sounds like projection. The only time I recall Trump supporters looking angry is when they were being assaulted by protesters.

    • Replies: @guest
    Yes, laid out in strict logic, which of course they'd never bother doing, the thought process is: that speech made me angry, therefore it was an angry speech and the crowd who reacted to it was angry, too.

    Or maybe it's: I'm angry in general, therefore everyone else is too.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, "projection" indeed. I'd never even heard of that term till about 10 years back and don't go for any psychological mumbo-jumbo. However, with Mrs. Clinton especially, I've seen it over and over again from her and her immediate cohorts. It's pretty weird really, like these people not only have problems, but they are not bright enough to come up with anything else but their own problems when they lie about others.

    It's like the leftists who want to do protests and feel like they're back in the '60's like their grandparents - they are still chanting this one chant that goes like (come on, everybody) " a-one, a-two .... hey, ho, hey, ho, [something unintelligible] has got to go!" Come on, commies, that's 50 years old, for crying out loud - at least come up with some new chants!, and also, we're sick of Bob Dylan songs - yes we know anybody can sing it better than him, but how about sing some Merle Haggard or Willie stuff.

    Or, at least, if you're not gonna sing any Merle or Willie, how about "I gave my love a chicken that had no bone ..." RIP, John Belushi.

  93. @syonredux

    In contrast, Trump was a hot comic, a classic Howard Stern guest. He was the insult comic, the stadium act, the ratings-obsessed headliner who shouted down hecklers. His rallies boiled with rage and laughter, which were hard to tell apart. You didn’t have to think that Trump himself was funny to see this effect: I found him repulsive, and yet I could hear those comedy rhythms everywhere, from the Rodney Dangerfield “I don’t get no respect” routine to the gleeful insult-comic slams of Don Rickles (for “hockey puck,” substitute “Pocahontas”) to Andrew Dice Clay, whose lighten-up-it’s-a-joke, it’s-not-him-it’s-a-persona brand of misogyny dominated the late nineteen-eighties. The eighties were Trump’s era, where he still seemed to live.

    It’s almost as if Trump is America’s First Jewish President.
     
    Yeah, it's quite interesting how the Jewish commentariat fail to notice that Trump is ,culturally speaking, a middle-class Jew from the Tri-State area....

    Maybe they don't like to be reminded that they have Trump-esque relatives?

    It’s interesting to contrast Trump with another outer borough billionaire of similar vintage: Ralph Lauren.

    Trump got rich selling tacky American opulence to the nouveau riche and foreigners; Lauren got rich selling British gentry style to the middle class.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    It’s interesting to contrast Trump with another outer borough billionaire of similar vintage: Ralph Lauren.

    Trump got rich selling tacky American opulence to the nouveau riche and foreigners; Lauren got rich selling British gentry style to the middle class.
     
    Yeah, Lauren's* love of classic haute-WASP style is quite evident. It rather reminds me of Woody Allen's love of mid-century WASP high culture.



    *born Ralph Lifshitz; can't say that I blame him for changing his name
  94. @anony-mouse
    '... For the last eight years, the President of the United States has had to share the White House living quarters with his mother-in-law … and, as far as I can tell, not one American television comedian dared to make even a meta-joke about it...'

    Alan King died four years before Obama was elected.

    This is one problem at Unz.com. By having so many half-centenarians+ as writers long dead cultural reference points seem still alive.

    Its not M-I-L its now MILF.

    Mother-in-law jokes have been around since the pyramids and they will be making them 5,000 years from now if there are still humans around. If Trump’s MIL lived in the White House what are the chances that they wouldn’t be making jokes about that on late night TV every other day?

  95. @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    Mel Brooks did a one man show at 88 on HBO and it was quite funny.

  96. @Dave Pinsen
    It's interesting to contrast Trump with another outer borough billionaire of similar vintage: Ralph Lauren.

    Trump got rich selling tacky American opulence to the nouveau riche and foreigners; Lauren got rich selling British gentry style to the middle class.

    It’s interesting to contrast Trump with another outer borough billionaire of similar vintage: Ralph Lauren.

    Trump got rich selling tacky American opulence to the nouveau riche and foreigners; Lauren got rich selling British gentry style to the middle class.

    Yeah, Lauren’s* love of classic haute-WASP style is quite evident. It rather reminds me of Woody Allen’s love of mid-century WASP high culture.

    *born Ralph Lifshitz; can’t say that I blame him for changing his name

    • Replies: @Jack D
    This is a true story - back in the late '70s, my roommate at the time went to a Yiddish poetry reading in the Bronx (even then the Jewish community in the Bronx was way past its "sell by" date). He had made the acquaintance of an elderly Yiddish poet who still lived on the Grand Concourse - he was probably the last white person living in his building but he was as poor as a church mouse (Yiddish poetry never paid big) and couldn't afford to move. He was so old and clearly so poor, wearing 40 year old moth eaten suits that were now too big on him, that I think the local Puerto Rican youth didn't even bother to mug him. The whole scene was like something from a Saul Bellow novel. Anyway, at this reading an old man stood up and introduced himself, "Mein name is Feivish* Lifshitz. You might know mein son - his name is Relf Lauren."

    * I forget what his actual 1st name was.

    , @Flip
    And Ralph's son is married to George Bush the elder's granddaughter.
  97. @whorefinder
    Humor is a good way to keep the morale of your side up, as many a commander in war time/exploration has found, sponsoring the men to do little shows during voyages and long marches to keep the boys laughing or hissing at the enemy.

    But it's a lousy way of getting the other side to give up, unless you've completely eliminated their entertainment alternatives. Nobody voluntarily watches crap that's crapping on them.

    True, on its own, humor is not a way to convince the other side to give up. But mockery can demoralize an enemy, and desanctify their goals, heroes, and values.

  98. @MC
    Did you catch this line?

    "When Hillary described half of Trump's followers as 'deplorables,' she wasn't wrong."

    Well, that settles that, then.

    No, but I caught this one:

    the “Pussy Grabs Back” shirt I wore to the polls

    It’s good to get our analysis of the role of humor in the election from such a clearly unbiased and neutral source.

    Wer Funny ist, bestimme ich.

    Part of what backfired on the Left was turning Hillary into such a humorless goody two-shoes (more than she is in real life, where she likes to curse like a sailor, especially at her staff). The SNL version of Hillary was a long suffering school marm to Alec Baldwin’s out of control student Trump. No one really likes the librarian who goes around hissing shhhh! Also, people don’t like being hit on the head with propaganda. Casting an attractive thin lipstick lesbian who was less than half of Hillary’s age to play the fat, aged, saggy, wrinkled Hillary (as a saintly figure) was much too obvious a propaganda move to make her more appealing than the real Hillary (just as Saddam’s doubles were better looking and younger than the real Saddam). If Hillary had been the Republican, they couldn’t have found an actress old and fat enough to play her – dollars to donuts they would have cast some old fat white guy in drag and she would have been drunk and cursing on stage just like the real Hillary .

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "If Hillary had been the Republican, they couldn’t have found an actress old and fat enough to play her –"

    Kathy Bates is looking quite fat and old these days.

    "dollars to donuts they would have cast some old fat white guy in drag and she would have been drunk and cursing on stage just like the real Hillary"

    Jonah Hill is a fat enough White guy to play a Republican Hildabeast in drag. Either him or Artie Lange from The Howard Stern Show.
    , @Captain Tripps
    You're on to something good here. I think people are more and more turned off by the neo-puritanism of the Left/Democrats, and Hillary was the perfect embodiment of the schoolmarm/town scold who goes around policing everyone's morality according to her (warped) understanding of the good and moral. Many more Americans observe the "live-and-let-live" principle than the "damn you if don't agree with my moral principles" type.
    , @SteveRogers42
    The funny thing is -- I remember seeing a couple of the early Hillary skits on SNL (when she was getting ready to announce) and I was flabbergasted at the negative portrayal of her by such a left-wing institution. The writers and Kate McKinnon seemed to have perfectly grasped her creepily humorless and woodenly authoritarian personality, and they were definitely encouraging the audience to laugh at her and not with her. Of course, at that point, Bernie was still in the race, and these "hit pieces" may have been constructed to help him out. I don't know whether SNL softened its portrayal of her later, but I remember thinking that her campaign had taken a serious hit after those first two portrayals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK2Mvd-nH9o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdNYXMQoy8
  99. @syonredux

    It’s interesting to contrast Trump with another outer borough billionaire of similar vintage: Ralph Lauren.

    Trump got rich selling tacky American opulence to the nouveau riche and foreigners; Lauren got rich selling British gentry style to the middle class.
     
    Yeah, Lauren's* love of classic haute-WASP style is quite evident. It rather reminds me of Woody Allen's love of mid-century WASP high culture.



    *born Ralph Lifshitz; can't say that I blame him for changing his name

    This is a true story – back in the late ’70s, my roommate at the time went to a Yiddish poetry reading in the Bronx (even then the Jewish community in the Bronx was way past its “sell by” date). He had made the acquaintance of an elderly Yiddish poet who still lived on the Grand Concourse – he was probably the last white person living in his building but he was as poor as a church mouse (Yiddish poetry never paid big) and couldn’t afford to move. He was so old and clearly so poor, wearing 40 year old moth eaten suits that were now too big on him, that I think the local Puerto Rican youth didn’t even bother to mug him. The whole scene was like something from a Saul Bellow novel. Anyway, at this reading an old man stood up and introduced himself, “Mein name is Feivish* Lifshitz. You might know mein son – his name is Relf Lauren.”

    * I forget what his actual 1st name was.

  100. @Lot

    Like I’ve been saying, a lot of 1969 era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments — especially by higher IQ daughters annoyed that their dumber brothers got more help with their education expenses from their parents
     
    For this to be true you need to posit all of the following:

    1. There were a lot of shrewish ambitious young Jewish women in the late 60's;

    2. Who had brothers;

    3. Whose brothers were also bookish and intelligent;

    4. Whose bookish and intelligent brothers were preferred by their parents;

    5. Whose parents were financially constrained to the point they could not afford to fully pay for educations for all of their children, but not so constrained they could pay for their sons' education; and

    6. The likely negligible number of women meeting every one of these criteria were an important factor in the rise of feminism, as opposed to the technological economic forces that greatly decreased the relative value of physical strength in the labor market, but increased it for more womanly service sector jobs.

    I think a better explanation is that the economic and technological factors in point 6 were overwhelming, the late 60's to early 80's were the demographic peak of American Ashkenazi, whose natural talent for advocacy makes them a highly disproportionate share of essentially every group of intellectuals, especially during that period.

    This reminds me of Steve’s theory that Jewish anger at being excluded from WASP country clubs is just displaced anger by Ostjuden excluded from German Jewish clubs – another evidence free speculation. One of the things that makes leftist intellectuals so infuriating is that they just talk out of their whereever about things that they know nothing about. Steve is at his best when he backs his arguments with hatefacts and not idle speculation as to motivation.

    • Replies: @guest
    I don't know where you get the "just" part.
  101. @Lot
    McCain strikes me as extremely heterosexual. He likely has a multi generation Navy man's tolerance for sodomy.

    When and why did Winston Churchill say: 'The traditions of the Royal Navy are rum, sodomy and the lash'?

    ...The Oxford Dictionary suggests that Churchill's phrase should be compared with naval phrases dating from the 19th century - 'Rum, bum and bacca' and 'Ashore, it's wine, women and song, aboard it's rum, bum and concertina'.

    It looks as though here, as elsewhere, Churchill took an earlier quotation and improved upon it. In The Irrepressible Churchill, compiled by Kay Halle (Robson Books, 1985), Churchill is said to have used the phrase in 1913, when he was First Lord of the Admiralty. According to 'an ear-witness', he was having trouble with some of his admirals at a strategy meeting. One of them accused him of having impugned the traditions of the Royal Navy, provoking the reply: 'And what are they? They are rum, sodomy and the lash'.
     

    Ralph Keyes, in The Quote Verifier, cites Churchill’s assistant that his boss told him he never actually said that, but wished he did.

  102. @JohnnyWalker123
    PrissFactor/Donut/DominiqueFrancon/Anonymy/Jenner/DNATurtles/[Insert Whatever name he's using this week] actually had a good comment on this topic.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-cultural-studies-retractions/#comment-780380

    War of the Sexes is essentially a war between Jewish men and Jewish women but fought on the battleground of the goy body.
    No bunch of men have done more to ‘objectify’ the female body in the modern world than Jews have. Sure, ancient Greeks were into nude statues and Renaissance painters were nude-ists too, but they presented nudity in artful and beautiful manner(though not always).
    But modern Jewish men have often presented the female body in porny ways. I recall Suzanne Somers married some Jewish guy in the 70s.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/suzanne-somers-on-surviving-cancer-gay-men-and-drag-queens-and-of-course-the-thighmaster

    The Jewish guy, Alan Hamel, was interviewed by Barbara Walters in the 70s, and when asked why he married Somers, he said something like “I wondered what she would look like naked.” This was the feminist 70s so, even as a kid, I was shocked that some guy would speak so frankly. But frank he was indeed. I mean no one would marry Somers for her brains, right? But I recall Walters’ disapproving demeanor. It was truly a Portnoyic or Portnographic moment. A Jewish guy married some ‘shikse’ because he was slobbering about thinking about her BODY, not her brains.
    And of course, Marilyn Monroe was the ultimate ‘white meat’. (Ron Rosenbaum should write a piece on that.) Though she tried to educate herself and read books, the only thing that interested Jewish men about her was her tits and ass.
    It’s all there in PORTNOY’S COMPLAINT. It’s not about Jewish men interested in white women’s brains, hearts, or souls. It’s about pretty face, breasts, ass, and pooter. And Jews were heavily involved in porn in Europe and especially in America. And porn was certainly mostly about using white women as OBJECTS of sexual lust.
    So, if any bunch of men did most to objectify the female body, it was Jews. And it was especially the WHITE female body. Conservatives were opposed to porn, and even most white liberals were uneasy with that stuff as wasps were of puritanical background and Catholics were sexually uneasy about such stuff.
    But in images and words, Jewish men were pioneers of openly dealing with male lust issues. And lust was about the body, not about the brains.
    Hollywood had many glamorous stars. But in the old days, censorship dampened and restrained open sexuality. But with the end of censorship in the late 60s and early 70s, the female body could be fully ‘objectified’ and ‘commoditized’ as sexual playthings. And Jewish men were at the forefront of this. Even blaxploitation movies that promoted interracism were mostly made by Jewish men.
    Though it was about lust, some Jewish porn-meisters sought intellectual justification by invoking Freud. So, it was healthy and natural for men to openly lust after female bodies and confess their ‘boing’-ish desires. Russ Meyers!
    Since Jewish women had big noses and were overly brainy, Jewish men were Portnoic in their lust for white shikse, especially the blondes. It’s like the guy in HEARTBREAK KID has no interest in Cybil Sheperd’s brains. It’s all her about sex appeal. And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie(who ended up badly, killed by jealous hubby; idiot thought he could ride her sex appeal to fame, not realizing that her fame would serve as a wedge between her and him; why would a woman hang with a loser when winner-men are after her?)
    In terms of racial dynamics, white Jewish men preferred to ‘objectify’ the white female, but when it came to blacks they preferred to ‘objectify’ the black male. Black women could sing, and they had fit bodies, but their faces looked too funky-wunky. So, black women weren’t really objects of sexual desire. In contrast, black men were winning in sports, the most prominent domain of male competition in the American mythology. Since promoting black male as the New Tough Man had a wussifying effect on white males, Jewish men did so, albeit with some trepidation(as, like Donald Sterling, Jewish men were also intimidated by blacks.) On the one hand, Jewish men enjoyed watching white guys get beaten and pushed aside by black males. They enjoyed the spectacle of white women going off with black men and making white guys feel like a bunch of losers. As Jews remembered how they’d been ‘dissed’ by snobby Wasps and big strong ‘polacks’(who stole lunch money), they got their racial-sexual vengeance through blacks. Especially because blacks worked for Jews in sports and media, Jews could even see blacks as their sexual-cultural agents. (Though white gentile hostility toward Jews has been greatly exaggerated, Jewish sensitivity is understandable since negative experiences or perceptions are more long-lasting and impacting than positive or mundane experiences. If a Jew has experiences with a 100 wasps, and if 98 treat him nice or normally while 2 really put him down, his experiences with the 2 will have a more powerfully long-lasting effect than his experience with the 98. It’s like most movie audience could be quiet and well-behaved and only a handful could be rowdy and disruptive, but you’re more likely to remember the rowdy ones than the fact that most audience members were quiet and normal. Jewish sensitivity is also paranoid to some extent. Oftentimes, it wasn’t a matter of how wasps really treated Jews but how Jews suspected wasps were feeling about Jews. It’s like the scene in CARRIE where Carrie thinks everyone is laughing at her at the prom when most of them were not.)
    And yet, the Jewish male all-out-objectification of the female coincided with the rise of feminism that was dominated by Jewish women. So, Jewish men were going out of their way to promote the image of the women as a big-tits-ass-pooter, and Jewish women were bitching about how the woman was being ‘objectified’ than admired for her brains and heart. But what Jewish women left out of their criticism was that Jewish men were the main players in the ‘objectification’ of women. They also failed to mention that Jewish men ‘objectified’ white women as objects of lust than any other women. (On the one hand, brainy Jewish women were insulted that women were being seen primarily as sexual trophies than as intellectual/creative equals of men. On the other hand, they were envious of the fact that blonde shikses with pretty looks were idolized by Jewish men. To brainy and big-nosed Jewish women, Jewish male fixation on the ‘shikse’ was like worship of false idols. Instead of respecting Jewish female intellectual ‘spirit’, Jewish men were drooling over tits and ass of white women.)
    Jewish men and Jewish women were battling one another, but the Jewish aspect of this was hidden, and the debate was turned into an abstract one of ‘patriarchy’ vs ‘women’s liberation’. But if anything, traditional patriarchy had disapproved of the sexual objectification of women and denounced Jewish role in vice industries.
    So often, the core battle is really among Jews, but it’s goyim who are used as battleground and it’s goyim who are recruited as cannon fodder(and who ultimately get the blame).
    We see this with Liberal Zionist vs Neocons too. Both sides are Jewish and have common interests, but they differ on strategy and tactics. But instead of just arguing Jew-vs-Jew, they use goy fronts and buffers so that the argument seems to be between ‘Democrats’ and ‘Republicans’, even though most gentiles, if left to their own devices, wouldn’t give a crap about stuff that Jews care about so much. If not for Jewish media domination, most Americans wouldn’t care about middle east problems or Ukraine.
    Since Jews want us to do their bidding, the Jewish family feud becomes our feud, and because we gentiles end up fighting one another, paradoxically the Jewish antagonists draw closer.
    Imagine a Jewish man and Jewish woman bickering with one another and boiling with anger. But instead of keeping it to themselves, the Jewish man persuades a whole bunch of gentile men to argue on his behalf, and the Jewish woman does the same with a whole bunch of gentile women to do likewise on her behalf. In time, idiot gentile men and idiot gentile women are at each other’s throats, and the Jewish man and Jewish woman look upon the big fight with amusement and laugh together.
    We might as well be living in cartoon world.
     

    That’s right – that’s why the biggest pornographer of the post-war period was the Jew Hugh Hefner, with 2nd rank held by the Jew Bob Guccione and third place by the Jew Larry Flynt. And who can forget that work of Jewish pornography, I Am Curious (Yellow). And what of the Jew Chuck Traynor who forced his wife Linda Lovelace into porn? All Joos I tell you, all of them.

    • Replies: @Bill
    I knew a smart black guy . . .
  103. @Lot
    McCain strikes me as extremely heterosexual. He likely has a multi generation Navy man's tolerance for sodomy.

    When and why did Winston Churchill say: 'The traditions of the Royal Navy are rum, sodomy and the lash'?

    ...The Oxford Dictionary suggests that Churchill's phrase should be compared with naval phrases dating from the 19th century - 'Rum, bum and bacca' and 'Ashore, it's wine, women and song, aboard it's rum, bum and concertina'.

    It looks as though here, as elsewhere, Churchill took an earlier quotation and improved upon it. In The Irrepressible Churchill, compiled by Kay Halle (Robson Books, 1985), Churchill is said to have used the phrase in 1913, when he was First Lord of the Admiralty. According to 'an ear-witness', he was having trouble with some of his admirals at a strategy meeting. One of them accused him of having impugned the traditions of the Royal Navy, provoking the reply: 'And what are they? They are rum, sodomy and the lash'.
     

    If you’re the “top” that means you’re not gay. Afghan men don’t think of themselves as gay either.

    • Replies: @Bill
    To expand on Jack D's point, nobody but post-19th C Europeans thinks the top is gay. Nobody in prison thinks the top is gay. Etc.

    The category "homosexual" is bizarre. The idea that "homosexuals" are like heterosexuals except that they happen to be sexually attracted to members of the same sex is bizarre. Nothing like that is true. We and not the entire rest of humanity are the freaks.

    For fun and profit: go to 4chan and observe discussions of whether you're gay if you want your girlfriend to peg you. (Answer: you are)
  104. @whorefinder
    Bogdanovich is my favorite ascot-wearing arrogant film snob/living Hollywood character.

    The first few times I saw him interviewed, I was positive it was an act, some comedian doing an over-the-top character of a name-dropping, ascot-wearing, affected-speaking, one-movie-famous 1970s has-been auteur.

    But then I found out: oh no, this man is actually seriously like this!

    The man's saving grace is his vast knowledge of film; he is excellent when he's giving the commentary track to a film. But it's still hilarious to hear that put-upon, supercillious accent go off on a tangent dropping names about a Hollywood party, and giving the worst (and unintentionally hilarious) impressions of the famous Hollywood folk he's trying to impress you with (his horrific, serious impression of John Wayne that I heard had me in stitches).

    The Bogdanovich interview is one of the better ones on the Bret Easton Ellis podcast.

  105. @Alec Leamas
    Alt Right Trolls - primarily on Twitter - are almost certainly responsible for exciting the Millennials staffing the Clinton campaign and getting them to convince the old lady to shake her fist at a cartoon frog and his assorted Basket of Deplorables. 99.9% of the electorate had no idea what she was talking about, but probably wondered why she wasn't talking about jobs and the economy.

    In retrospect you really have to wonder about the hubris and stupidity of Hillary's engagement in a character and fitness contest as probably the only political figure who would compare unfavorably in such to Trump. You can tell that her most trusted political advisors aren't allowed to tell her what nearly everyone in the world knows to be a plain fact - no one likes her.

    What was most stunning to me was the cynical Big Lie aspect of “we go high when they go low” when her entire campaign was based on personal character assassination of Trump – the absolutely lowest form of politics.

    • Agree: res
  106. @iffen
    Just waiting for M-I-LILF.

    Who would be perverted enough to want to have sex with their mother-in-law?

    Some guys are into the mother-daughter thing. One gay commenter on a news article said he once knew a father-son-son’s best friend ménage. (Hey, it’s no stranger than the rest of ’em.)

    The Iris Robinson scandal in Ulster was close to a grandmother-in-law tryst. Harold and Maude acted out in real life.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    Maybe it's not quite the same as an actual mother in law.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Clark_Diaries


    "Clark is, at this time, also carrying on an adulterous affair with Valerie Harkess, the wife of a South African judge, and her two daughters (to whom he referred collectively as "the coven"). Clark made no effort to disguise the coven's identity. The affair became public knowledge in 1992 after Clark left the House of Commons, and it was cited in the Harkess divorce case."
     
  107. It’s almost as if Donald Trump is America’s first Jewish President

    Q: What’s the difference between Donald Trump and a liberal Jew?

    A: Donald Trump’s grandchildren are Jewish.

  108. @Dave Pinsen
    The "rage" sounds like projection. The only time I recall Trump supporters looking angry is when they were being assaulted by protesters.

    Yes, laid out in strict logic, which of course they’d never bother doing, the thought process is: that speech made me angry, therefore it was an angry speech and the crowd who reacted to it was angry, too.

    Or maybe it’s: I’m angry in general, therefore everyone else is too.

  109. @JohnnyWalker123
    PrissFactor/Donut/DominiqueFrancon/Anonymy/Jenner/DNATurtles/[Insert Whatever name he's using this week] actually had a good comment on this topic.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-cultural-studies-retractions/#comment-780380

    War of the Sexes is essentially a war between Jewish men and Jewish women but fought on the battleground of the goy body.
    No bunch of men have done more to ‘objectify’ the female body in the modern world than Jews have. Sure, ancient Greeks were into nude statues and Renaissance painters were nude-ists too, but they presented nudity in artful and beautiful manner(though not always).
    But modern Jewish men have often presented the female body in porny ways. I recall Suzanne Somers married some Jewish guy in the 70s.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/suzanne-somers-on-surviving-cancer-gay-men-and-drag-queens-and-of-course-the-thighmaster

    The Jewish guy, Alan Hamel, was interviewed by Barbara Walters in the 70s, and when asked why he married Somers, he said something like “I wondered what she would look like naked.” This was the feminist 70s so, even as a kid, I was shocked that some guy would speak so frankly. But frank he was indeed. I mean no one would marry Somers for her brains, right? But I recall Walters’ disapproving demeanor. It was truly a Portnoyic or Portnographic moment. A Jewish guy married some ‘shikse’ because he was slobbering about thinking about her BODY, not her brains.
    And of course, Marilyn Monroe was the ultimate ‘white meat’. (Ron Rosenbaum should write a piece on that.) Though she tried to educate herself and read books, the only thing that interested Jewish men about her was her tits and ass.
    It’s all there in PORTNOY’S COMPLAINT. It’s not about Jewish men interested in white women’s brains, hearts, or souls. It’s about pretty face, breasts, ass, and pooter. And Jews were heavily involved in porn in Europe and especially in America. And porn was certainly mostly about using white women as OBJECTS of sexual lust.
    So, if any bunch of men did most to objectify the female body, it was Jews. And it was especially the WHITE female body. Conservatives were opposed to porn, and even most white liberals were uneasy with that stuff as wasps were of puritanical background and Catholics were sexually uneasy about such stuff.
    But in images and words, Jewish men were pioneers of openly dealing with male lust issues. And lust was about the body, not about the brains.
    Hollywood had many glamorous stars. But in the old days, censorship dampened and restrained open sexuality. But with the end of censorship in the late 60s and early 70s, the female body could be fully ‘objectified’ and ‘commoditized’ as sexual playthings. And Jewish men were at the forefront of this. Even blaxploitation movies that promoted interracism were mostly made by Jewish men.
    Though it was about lust, some Jewish porn-meisters sought intellectual justification by invoking Freud. So, it was healthy and natural for men to openly lust after female bodies and confess their ‘boing’-ish desires. Russ Meyers!
    Since Jewish women had big noses and were overly brainy, Jewish men were Portnoic in their lust for white shikse, especially the blondes. It’s like the guy in HEARTBREAK KID has no interest in Cybil Sheperd’s brains. It’s all her about sex appeal. And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie(who ended up badly, killed by jealous hubby; idiot thought he could ride her sex appeal to fame, not realizing that her fame would serve as a wedge between her and him; why would a woman hang with a loser when winner-men are after her?)
    In terms of racial dynamics, white Jewish men preferred to ‘objectify’ the white female, but when it came to blacks they preferred to ‘objectify’ the black male. Black women could sing, and they had fit bodies, but their faces looked too funky-wunky. So, black women weren’t really objects of sexual desire. In contrast, black men were winning in sports, the most prominent domain of male competition in the American mythology. Since promoting black male as the New Tough Man had a wussifying effect on white males, Jewish men did so, albeit with some trepidation(as, like Donald Sterling, Jewish men were also intimidated by blacks.) On the one hand, Jewish men enjoyed watching white guys get beaten and pushed aside by black males. They enjoyed the spectacle of white women going off with black men and making white guys feel like a bunch of losers. As Jews remembered how they’d been ‘dissed’ by snobby Wasps and big strong ‘polacks’(who stole lunch money), they got their racial-sexual vengeance through blacks. Especially because blacks worked for Jews in sports and media, Jews could even see blacks as their sexual-cultural agents. (Though white gentile hostility toward Jews has been greatly exaggerated, Jewish sensitivity is understandable since negative experiences or perceptions are more long-lasting and impacting than positive or mundane experiences. If a Jew has experiences with a 100 wasps, and if 98 treat him nice or normally while 2 really put him down, his experiences with the 2 will have a more powerfully long-lasting effect than his experience with the 98. It’s like most movie audience could be quiet and well-behaved and only a handful could be rowdy and disruptive, but you’re more likely to remember the rowdy ones than the fact that most audience members were quiet and normal. Jewish sensitivity is also paranoid to some extent. Oftentimes, it wasn’t a matter of how wasps really treated Jews but how Jews suspected wasps were feeling about Jews. It’s like the scene in CARRIE where Carrie thinks everyone is laughing at her at the prom when most of them were not.)
    And yet, the Jewish male all-out-objectification of the female coincided with the rise of feminism that was dominated by Jewish women. So, Jewish men were going out of their way to promote the image of the women as a big-tits-ass-pooter, and Jewish women were bitching about how the woman was being ‘objectified’ than admired for her brains and heart. But what Jewish women left out of their criticism was that Jewish men were the main players in the ‘objectification’ of women. They also failed to mention that Jewish men ‘objectified’ white women as objects of lust than any other women. (On the one hand, brainy Jewish women were insulted that women were being seen primarily as sexual trophies than as intellectual/creative equals of men. On the other hand, they were envious of the fact that blonde shikses with pretty looks were idolized by Jewish men. To brainy and big-nosed Jewish women, Jewish male fixation on the ‘shikse’ was like worship of false idols. Instead of respecting Jewish female intellectual ‘spirit’, Jewish men were drooling over tits and ass of white women.)
    Jewish men and Jewish women were battling one another, but the Jewish aspect of this was hidden, and the debate was turned into an abstract one of ‘patriarchy’ vs ‘women’s liberation’. But if anything, traditional patriarchy had disapproved of the sexual objectification of women and denounced Jewish role in vice industries.
    So often, the core battle is really among Jews, but it’s goyim who are used as battleground and it’s goyim who are recruited as cannon fodder(and who ultimately get the blame).
    We see this with Liberal Zionist vs Neocons too. Both sides are Jewish and have common interests, but they differ on strategy and tactics. But instead of just arguing Jew-vs-Jew, they use goy fronts and buffers so that the argument seems to be between ‘Democrats’ and ‘Republicans’, even though most gentiles, if left to their own devices, wouldn’t give a crap about stuff that Jews care about so much. If not for Jewish media domination, most Americans wouldn’t care about middle east problems or Ukraine.
    Since Jews want us to do their bidding, the Jewish family feud becomes our feud, and because we gentiles end up fighting one another, paradoxically the Jewish antagonists draw closer.
    Imagine a Jewish man and Jewish woman bickering with one another and boiling with anger. But instead of keeping it to themselves, the Jewish man persuades a whole bunch of gentile men to argue on his behalf, and the Jewish woman does the same with a whole bunch of gentile women to do likewise on her behalf. In time, idiot gentile men and idiot gentile women are at each other’s throats, and the Jewish man and Jewish woman look upon the big fight with amusement and laugh together.
    We might as well be living in cartoon world.
     

    PrissFactor/Donut/DominiqueFrancon/Anonymy/Jenner/DNATurtles/[Insert Whatever name he’s using this week]

    I think Priss was a she.

  110. @Anonymous
    NYT column that copies Charles Murray essay:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/technology/how-netflix-is-deepening-our-cultural-echo-chambers.html

    Translation: mass propaganda is harder these days, boo-hoo.

  111. @SFG
    Jewish jokes? He ran a neo-Nazi website. He went a lot further than Tosh.0 or Andrew Dice Clay.

    It was a fake neo-nazi website. The neo-nazi stuff was all meta – a form of trolling.

  112. @Jack D
    This reminds me of Steve's theory that Jewish anger at being excluded from WASP country clubs is just displaced anger by Ostjuden excluded from German Jewish clubs - another evidence free speculation. One of the things that makes leftist intellectuals so infuriating is that they just talk out of their whereever about things that they know nothing about. Steve is at his best when he backs his arguments with hatefacts and not idle speculation as to motivation.

    I don’t know where you get the “just” part.

  113. @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    I thought “The Producers” was clever and relatively funny, for it’s time. And I liked “The Twelve Chairs”, more just for the story than as a comedy. “Young Frankenstein” wasn’t too bad. Everything else he did was crap. On the whole, I agree – Mel Brooks is highly overrated and not especially funny.

  114. Trump isn’t funny, he just has “comedy rhythms”.

  115. @Alec Leamas
    Alt Right Trolls - primarily on Twitter - are almost certainly responsible for exciting the Millennials staffing the Clinton campaign and getting them to convince the old lady to shake her fist at a cartoon frog and his assorted Basket of Deplorables. 99.9% of the electorate had no idea what she was talking about, but probably wondered why she wasn't talking about jobs and the economy.

    In retrospect you really have to wonder about the hubris and stupidity of Hillary's engagement in a character and fitness contest as probably the only political figure who would compare unfavorably in such to Trump. You can tell that her most trusted political advisors aren't allowed to tell her what nearly everyone in the world knows to be a plain fact - no one likes her.

    I chalk the “deplorables” comment and the whole, stupid anti-alt-right speech to the never-ending Brown Scare/ fascists under the bed obsession on the left and the need for fresh KKK-glue. She sounded exactly like herself in her “vast rightwing conspiracy” days, and was actually milder than Bill blaming Oklahoma City on talk radio. (She was stupider, however, because that wasn’t a direct attack on the public and it wasn’t during an election.)

    Going after a cartoon frog, on the other hand, was different. Perhaps a sign of things to come in the upside-down age of internet trolling. Let that sink in: a major party candidate in the middle of the presidential campaign took time to go after a cartoon frog simply because people posted intentionally offensive jokes about it. That’s almost sad. But there’s no room in my heart for pity, because it’s full of laughter.

    Granted, they thought it was in the bag at that point.

  116. @Sandy Berger's Socks
    Has any president in American history ever been less mocked or joked about?

    Is it healthy for a democracy to have a leader that it is taboo to joke publicly about?

    His effect on the national psyche/mood might have been as bad as his policies.

    “Has any president in American history ever been less mocked or joked about?

    Is it healthy for a democracy to have a leader that it is taboo to joke publicly about?

    His effect on the national psyche/mood might have been as bad as his policies.”

    A friend of mine once said that the only reasonable lesson to draw from Obama’s Presidency is that you should never elect a Black President. The President is someone whom you should – must – be able to criticize. And since criticism of a Black President is, evidently, off-limits, no such person should ever be President..

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Mr. Anon, Point well stated, too bad no one thought of it 8 years ago.
  117. I don’t know how to break this to you Steve, but when Chuck Jones wrote his book he was more interested in comic effect than in telling the literal truth about Leon Schlesinger or anyone else. He also claimed that the Warner Brothers thought that they produced Mickey Mouse. You might say that Chuck Jones’s entire career was based on exaggeration for comic effect.

  118. @Reg Cæsar
    "Koo koo kachoo, Mrs Robinson" would get tiring after awhile.

    a lot of 1969 era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments
     
    On the other hand, The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs, of the Aryan Darien variety, and was horribly cruel to shiksas. Its "feminism" was just a cover story.

    Ira Levin was a very deft and devious writer. Just read A Kiss Before Dying sometime. Avoid any spoilers (eg, Wikipedia) before doing so. As Stephen King says, its "real screeching bombshell is neatly tucked away about one hundred pages into the story. If you should happen upon this moment while thumbing randomly through the book, it means nothing to you. If you have read everything faithfully up to that point, it means ... everything."

    “The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs”

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?"

    All of the kids were platinum white blond. Not even a dishwater dirty blond kid in sight, let alone a brunette kid. What was this village of the super Nordics? I think they were Albino kids. There is no country on the planet where 100 percent of the under 18 population have hair as white as Santa Claus.

    , @Olorin
    That movie terrified me when I saw it at age 6 or 7 on TV.

    The antagonists of the story were precocious, platinum-blond-haired, Nordic-white children with super high IQs. They had more of a bond with each other than with their families. They acted far more calmly and with more maturity than normal children. They had unknown capacities of intelligence. When people or animals attacked them, they'd fight back with these powers. When they used those powers, their eyes got icy pale.

    But that was considered wrong. Later everyone was happy and relieved when they were locked in the schoolhouse by George Sanders and burned alive.

    I kept to myself how this haunted me till my late teens, when I told my teacher, who had published a couple dozen SF stories in the 1950s and knew the genre well. This is how I learned that John Wyndham, who wrote the foundational novel for the movie (The Midwich Cuckoos), described the alien-fathered children as having golden eyes and silvery skin. I.e., metallic-looking children, like 1950s writers might have imagined actual aliens.

    Given how relieved I was to confide this old haunt, it didn't occur to me to wonder why the children were constructed as blond/pale eyed (when invoking their powers). Not even in the 1990s, when John Carpenter's remake of the movie gave the children platinum hair and blue eyes.

    Today I ponder how the director of that movie was one Wolf Rilla.

    Rilla was born in Berlin, where his part-Jewish father Walter Rilla was a prominent actor. In common with many others in entertainment and the arts, Walter recognised the dangers when Hitler came to power, and the family moved to London in 1934 when Wolf was 14. He completed his schooling at the enlightened co-educational Frensham Heights school, Surrey, and went on to St Catharine's College, Cambridge. In 1942 he joined the BBC World Service's German section, transferring to television in the late 1940s.
     

    Source: Wikipedia
    , @syonredux

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?
     
    The Platinum blond hair was meant to serve as a sign that they were not (at least not entirely) products of the village where they were born.The title of the novel upon which the film was based is The Midwich Cuckoos…..

    The common cuckoo is a brood parasite; it lays its eggs in the nests of other birds. At the appropriate moment, the hen cuckoo flies down to the host’s nest, pushes one egg out of the nest, lays an egg and flies off. The whole process takes about 10 seconds. A female may visit up to 50 nests during a breeding season. Common cuckoos first breed at the age of two years.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cuckoo#Breeding
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?
     
    Lots of evil kid movies around that time: A High Wind in Jamaica (with a young Martin Amis!), Lord of the Flies, etc. The Spock undercurrent, I guess.
  119. @Zoodles
    Its almost as if the Jews are the new WASPS.

    “Its almost as if the Jews are the new WASPS.”

    Minus being tactful.

    • LOL: Kyle McKenna
    • Replies: @DCThrowback
    And minus the noblesse oblige to the rest of fellow less intelligent citizens.
  120. @Kyle McKenna

    I really like Amash and Jones, sorry to see them on this list.
     
    The short list of eight congressmen who dare to defy the juggernaut?

    Am I reading you correctly here?

    You read it right. The list kind of varies depending on the vote. The Republicans on the list are not anti Israel, just anti foreign aid purists.

    There are actually only two hard core anti Israel congressmen, black Muslim Keith Ellison plus Moran in Virginia whose views are typical academic leftist. Cynthia McKinney was also hard core anti Israel, and after she lost her seat in congress in a primary she got involved with the Gaza flotilla crowd. Her Wikipedia is hilarious reading.

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Ah, fightin' Jim Moran. Know him well, and wouldn't call him an academic. Did make his fair share of enemies, though, and took some really principled stands. No longer in Congress, incidentally or otherwise.
  121. We have a new meme!! Mediocre Negroes. LOL.

  122. @utu
    "The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs"

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?

    “Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?”

    All of the kids were platinum white blond. Not even a dishwater dirty blond kid in sight, let alone a brunette kid. What was this village of the super Nordics? I think they were Albino kids. There is no country on the planet where 100 percent of the under 18 population have hair as white as Santa Claus.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Similar look to the Eloi in The Time Machine movie also from about 1960.
    , @syonredux

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?”

    All of the kids were platinum white blond. Not even a dishwater dirty blond kid in sight, let alone a brunette kid. What was this village of the super Nordics? I think they were Albino kids. There is no country on the planet where 100 percent of the under 18 population have hair as white as Santa Claus.
     
    The Platinum blond hair was meant to serve as a sign that they were not (at least not entirely) products of the village where they were born.The title of the novel upon which the film was based is The Midwich Cuckoos.....

    The common cuckoo is a brood parasite; it lays its eggs in the nests of other birds. At the appropriate moment, the hen cuckoo flies down to the host's nest, pushes one egg out of the nest, lays an egg and flies off. The whole process takes about 10 seconds. A female may visit up to 50 nests during a breeding season. Common cuckoos first breed at the age of two years.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cuckoo#Breeding
  123. @ogunsiron
    I enjoyed Conservative Pundit (DemsRRealRacist ?) very much. I hope he resurfaces as a commentator somewhere. I also like Asian Conservative Man.

    He’s JBurtonXP now.

  124. @Anonymous

    Groton-Dunstable choir cancels Easter performance at Italian basilica under threat of lawsuit
    http://www.lowellsun.com/ci_30732396/groton-dunstable-choir-cancels-easter-performance-at-italian
     
    Upper-middle class kids from Groton, MA will be denied the opportunity to perform at an Easter concert at St. Anthony's Basilica in Padua, Italy. One member of the community was behind this lawsuit threat. Fox 25 in Boston interviewed the woman who brought the complaint. She doesn't have children in the school district and assured Fox 25 her Jewish faith was not a factor in being this complaint.

    Reporter Erica Ricci:

    Well, the battle began with a former school committee member here in Groton. She’s Jewish but insists that has nothing to do with this. She doesn’t even have students in the school system, she’s just tells me she’s “out to right a wrong.”

    Reminds me of recent shenanigans (#27) at Lexington (yeah, that Lexington) High School. The “school advisors” remain a mystery in that case.

  125. @Dave Pinsen
    The "rage" sounds like projection. The only time I recall Trump supporters looking angry is when they were being assaulted by protesters.

    Yeah, “projection” indeed. I’d never even heard of that term till about 10 years back and don’t go for any psychological mumbo-jumbo. However, with Mrs. Clinton especially, I’ve seen it over and over again from her and her immediate cohorts. It’s pretty weird really, like these people not only have problems, but they are not bright enough to come up with anything else but their own problems when they lie about others.

    It’s like the leftists who want to do protests and feel like they’re back in the ’60’s like their grandparents – they are still chanting this one chant that goes like (come on, everybody) ” a-one, a-two …. hey, ho, hey, ho, [something unintelligible] has got to go!” Come on, commies, that’s 50 years old, for crying out loud – at least come up with some new chants!, and also, we’re sick of Bob Dylan songs – yes we know anybody can sing it better than him, but how about sing some Merle Haggard or Willie stuff.

    Or, at least, if you’re not gonna sing any Merle or Willie, how about “I gave my love a chicken that had no bone …” RIP, John Belushi.

  126. @Jefferson
    "Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?"

    All of the kids were platinum white blond. Not even a dishwater dirty blond kid in sight, let alone a brunette kid. What was this village of the super Nordics? I think they were Albino kids. There is no country on the planet where 100 percent of the under 18 population have hair as white as Santa Claus.

    Similar look to the Eloi in The Time Machine movie also from about 1960.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    The 2002 version of The Time Machine featured the half-Irish, half-Zambian Samantha Mumba as one of the Eloi.
  127. @Lot
    You read it right. The list kind of varies depending on the vote. The Republicans on the list are not anti Israel, just anti foreign aid purists.

    There are actually only two hard core anti Israel congressmen, black Muslim Keith Ellison plus Moran in Virginia whose views are typical academic leftist. Cynthia McKinney was also hard core anti Israel, and after she lost her seat in congress in a primary she got involved with the Gaza flotilla crowd. Her Wikipedia is hilarious reading.

    Ah, fightin’ Jim Moran. Know him well, and wouldn’t call him an academic. Did make his fair share of enemies, though, and took some really principled stands. No longer in Congress, incidentally or otherwise.

  128. @Jack D
    No, but I caught this one:


    the "Pussy Grabs Back” shirt I wore to the polls
     
    It's good to get our analysis of the role of humor in the election from such a clearly unbiased and neutral source.

    Wer Funny ist, bestimme ich.

    Part of what backfired on the Left was turning Hillary into such a humorless goody two-shoes (more than she is in real life, where she likes to curse like a sailor, especially at her staff). The SNL version of Hillary was a long suffering school marm to Alec Baldwin's out of control student Trump. No one really likes the librarian who goes around hissing shhhh! Also, people don't like being hit on the head with propaganda. Casting an attractive thin lipstick lesbian who was less than half of Hillary's age to play the fat, aged, saggy, wrinkled Hillary (as a saintly figure) was much too obvious a propaganda move to make her more appealing than the real Hillary (just as Saddam's doubles were better looking and younger than the real Saddam). If Hillary had been the Republican, they couldn't have found an actress old and fat enough to play her - dollars to donuts they would have cast some old fat white guy in drag and she would have been drunk and cursing on stage just like the real Hillary .

    “If Hillary had been the Republican, they couldn’t have found an actress old and fat enough to play her –”

    Kathy Bates is looking quite fat and old these days.

    “dollars to donuts they would have cast some old fat white guy in drag and she would have been drunk and cursing on stage just like the real Hillary”

    Jonah Hill is a fat enough White guy to play a Republican Hildabeast in drag. Either him or Artie Lange from The Howard Stern Show.

  129. @utu
    "The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs"

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?

    That movie terrified me when I saw it at age 6 or 7 on TV.

    The antagonists of the story were precocious, platinum-blond-haired, Nordic-white children with super high IQs. They had more of a bond with each other than with their families. They acted far more calmly and with more maturity than normal children. They had unknown capacities of intelligence. When people or animals attacked them, they’d fight back with these powers. When they used those powers, their eyes got icy pale.

    But that was considered wrong. Later everyone was happy and relieved when they were locked in the schoolhouse by George Sanders and burned alive.

    I kept to myself how this haunted me till my late teens, when I told my teacher, who had published a couple dozen SF stories in the 1950s and knew the genre well. This is how I learned that John Wyndham, who wrote the foundational novel for the movie (The Midwich Cuckoos), described the alien-fathered children as having golden eyes and silvery skin. I.e., metallic-looking children, like 1950s writers might have imagined actual aliens.

    Given how relieved I was to confide this old haunt, it didn’t occur to me to wonder why the children were constructed as blond/pale eyed (when invoking their powers). Not even in the 1990s, when John Carpenter’s remake of the movie gave the children platinum hair and blue eyes.

    Today I ponder how the director of that movie was one Wolf Rilla.

    Rilla was born in Berlin, where his part-Jewish father Walter Rilla was a prominent actor. In common with many others in entertainment and the arts, Walter recognised the dangers when Hitler came to power, and the family moved to London in 1934 when Wolf was 14. He completed his schooling at the enlightened co-educational Frensham Heights school, Surrey, and went on to St Catharine’s College, Cambridge. In 1942 he joined the BBC World Service’s German section, transferring to television in the late 1940s.

    Source: Wikipedia

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    The trailer terrified me when I was six or seven. I saw it years later as an adult. I still remember that in the Russian village in which the aliens were born, the Russians solved the problem with an atomic weapon (I think an atomic artillery piece).
    , @syonredux
    The Platinum blond hair was meant to serve as a sign that they were not (at least not entirely) products of the village where they were born.The title of the novel upon which the film was based is The Midwich Cuckoos…..

    The common cuckoo is a brood parasite; it lays its eggs in the nests of other birds. At the appropriate moment, the hen cuckoo flies down to the host’s nest, pushes one egg out of the nest, lays an egg and flies off. The whole process takes about 10 seconds. A female may visit up to 50 nests during a breeding season. Common cuckoos first breed at the age of two years.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cuckoo#Breeding
  130. @Steve Sailer
    Similar look to the Eloi in The Time Machine movie also from about 1960.

    The 2002 version of The Time Machine featured the half-Irish, half-Zambian Samantha Mumba as one of the Eloi.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The 2002 version of The Time Machine featured the half-Irish, half-Zambian Samantha Mumba as one of the Eloi.
     
    I like the sound of it: Samantha Mumba, the Zambian zamba.

    OT, but public transit is perfectly safe, if you live in the right place.
  131. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    Actually,The Producers is “ha ha only serious”-the basic scenario it posits is something that happens in business every day , more often than you think. As in the case of Sears Roebuck, sometimes Jews are involved (Eddie Lampert) , sometimes it’s just regular old goyishe malfeasance-Italian mobsters are famous for the “bust out”, which is perhaps the extreme form.

    There are all too many situations where failure of the organization or client can mean a windfall to the management or owners personally.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    I'm not so sure Lampert is making money on Sears's demise. I think he, and a lot of the investors who piggybacked on his Sears stake (e.g., Mohnish Pabrai, Bruce Berkowitz), had some delusional ideas about the value of its real estate. Lampert has kept the company afloat with financial engineering, but it's a turd swirling around the bowl.
  132. Don King told the FT that W’s diverse cabinet paved the way for Obama, but I think dignified portrayals of black presidents played by Dennis Haysbert and Morgan Freeman might have done more to pave the way culturally. Dave Chappelle’s “black Bush” imagined a ghetto black president, but Obama clearly didn’t fit that mold.

    So that, plus the political leanings of most comics, insulated Obama from comedy.

    One exception that comes to mind is Joan Rivers.

  133. @Lot

    Like I’ve been saying, a lot of 1969 era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments — especially by higher IQ daughters annoyed that their dumber brothers got more help with their education expenses from their parents
     
    For this to be true you need to posit all of the following:

    1. There were a lot of shrewish ambitious young Jewish women in the late 60's;

    2. Who had brothers;

    3. Whose brothers were also bookish and intelligent;

    4. Whose bookish and intelligent brothers were preferred by their parents;

    5. Whose parents were financially constrained to the point they could not afford to fully pay for educations for all of their children, but not so constrained they could pay for their sons' education; and

    6. The likely negligible number of women meeting every one of these criteria were an important factor in the rise of feminism, as opposed to the technological economic forces that greatly decreased the relative value of physical strength in the labor market, but increased it for more womanly service sector jobs.

    I think a better explanation is that the economic and technological factors in point 6 were overwhelming, the late 60's to early 80's were the demographic peak of American Ashkenazi, whose natural talent for advocacy makes them a highly disproportionate share of essentially every group of intellectuals, especially during that period.

    Also, as Steve himself has pointed out (for example, in his review of that women miners movie starring Charlize Theron), corporate America had an interest in doubling the labor force to keep down wages.

  134. @Anonymous
    Actually,The Producers is "ha ha only serious"-the basic scenario it posits is something that happens in business every day , more often than you think. As in the case of Sears Roebuck, sometimes Jews are involved (Eddie Lampert) , sometimes it's just regular old goyishe malfeasance-Italian mobsters are famous for the "bust out", which is perhaps the extreme form.

    There are all too many situations where failure of the organization or client can mean a windfall to the management or owners personally.

    I’m not so sure Lampert is making money on Sears’s demise. I think he, and a lot of the investors who piggybacked on his Sears stake (e.g., Mohnish Pabrai, Bruce Berkowitz), had some delusional ideas about the value of its real estate. Lampert has kept the company afloat with financial engineering, but it’s a turd swirling around the bowl.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    He's kept it afloat by putting in more of his own money, closing stores, and selling some real estate. I've read that the plan for the near future is to sell more real estate and sell the Craftsman brand to Stanley Works. To me it's reminiscent of the Ford Motor strategy of borrowing money against some of their real estate and even trademarks. It's only available to those who have been conservative (owning their own real estate without a lot of, or maybe even any, leverage) in the past.
  135. @JohnnyWalker123
    PrissFactor/Donut/DominiqueFrancon/Anonymy/Jenner/DNATurtles/[Insert Whatever name he's using this week] actually had a good comment on this topic.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-cultural-studies-retractions/#comment-780380

    War of the Sexes is essentially a war between Jewish men and Jewish women but fought on the battleground of the goy body.
    No bunch of men have done more to ‘objectify’ the female body in the modern world than Jews have. Sure, ancient Greeks were into nude statues and Renaissance painters were nude-ists too, but they presented nudity in artful and beautiful manner(though not always).
    But modern Jewish men have often presented the female body in porny ways. I recall Suzanne Somers married some Jewish guy in the 70s.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/suzanne-somers-on-surviving-cancer-gay-men-and-drag-queens-and-of-course-the-thighmaster

    The Jewish guy, Alan Hamel, was interviewed by Barbara Walters in the 70s, and when asked why he married Somers, he said something like “I wondered what she would look like naked.” This was the feminist 70s so, even as a kid, I was shocked that some guy would speak so frankly. But frank he was indeed. I mean no one would marry Somers for her brains, right? But I recall Walters’ disapproving demeanor. It was truly a Portnoyic or Portnographic moment. A Jewish guy married some ‘shikse’ because he was slobbering about thinking about her BODY, not her brains.
    And of course, Marilyn Monroe was the ultimate ‘white meat’. (Ron Rosenbaum should write a piece on that.) Though she tried to educate herself and read books, the only thing that interested Jewish men about her was her tits and ass.
    It’s all there in PORTNOY’S COMPLAINT. It’s not about Jewish men interested in white women’s brains, hearts, or souls. It’s about pretty face, breasts, ass, and pooter. And Jews were heavily involved in porn in Europe and especially in America. And porn was certainly mostly about using white women as OBJECTS of sexual lust.
    So, if any bunch of men did most to objectify the female body, it was Jews. And it was especially the WHITE female body. Conservatives were opposed to porn, and even most white liberals were uneasy with that stuff as wasps were of puritanical background and Catholics were sexually uneasy about such stuff.
    But in images and words, Jewish men were pioneers of openly dealing with male lust issues. And lust was about the body, not about the brains.
    Hollywood had many glamorous stars. But in the old days, censorship dampened and restrained open sexuality. But with the end of censorship in the late 60s and early 70s, the female body could be fully ‘objectified’ and ‘commoditized’ as sexual playthings. And Jewish men were at the forefront of this. Even blaxploitation movies that promoted interracism were mostly made by Jewish men.
    Though it was about lust, some Jewish porn-meisters sought intellectual justification by invoking Freud. So, it was healthy and natural for men to openly lust after female bodies and confess their ‘boing’-ish desires. Russ Meyers!
    Since Jewish women had big noses and were overly brainy, Jewish men were Portnoic in their lust for white shikse, especially the blondes. It’s like the guy in HEARTBREAK KID has no interest in Cybil Sheperd’s brains. It’s all her about sex appeal. And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie(who ended up badly, killed by jealous hubby; idiot thought he could ride her sex appeal to fame, not realizing that her fame would serve as a wedge between her and him; why would a woman hang with a loser when winner-men are after her?)
    In terms of racial dynamics, white Jewish men preferred to ‘objectify’ the white female, but when it came to blacks they preferred to ‘objectify’ the black male. Black women could sing, and they had fit bodies, but their faces looked too funky-wunky. So, black women weren’t really objects of sexual desire. In contrast, black men were winning in sports, the most prominent domain of male competition in the American mythology. Since promoting black male as the New Tough Man had a wussifying effect on white males, Jewish men did so, albeit with some trepidation(as, like Donald Sterling, Jewish men were also intimidated by blacks.) On the one hand, Jewish men enjoyed watching white guys get beaten and pushed aside by black males. They enjoyed the spectacle of white women going off with black men and making white guys feel like a bunch of losers. As Jews remembered how they’d been ‘dissed’ by snobby Wasps and big strong ‘polacks’(who stole lunch money), they got their racial-sexual vengeance through blacks. Especially because blacks worked for Jews in sports and media, Jews could even see blacks as their sexual-cultural agents. (Though white gentile hostility toward Jews has been greatly exaggerated, Jewish sensitivity is understandable since negative experiences or perceptions are more long-lasting and impacting than positive or mundane experiences. If a Jew has experiences with a 100 wasps, and if 98 treat him nice or normally while 2 really put him down, his experiences with the 2 will have a more powerfully long-lasting effect than his experience with the 98. It’s like most movie audience could be quiet and well-behaved and only a handful could be rowdy and disruptive, but you’re more likely to remember the rowdy ones than the fact that most audience members were quiet and normal. Jewish sensitivity is also paranoid to some extent. Oftentimes, it wasn’t a matter of how wasps really treated Jews but how Jews suspected wasps were feeling about Jews. It’s like the scene in CARRIE where Carrie thinks everyone is laughing at her at the prom when most of them were not.)
    And yet, the Jewish male all-out-objectification of the female coincided with the rise of feminism that was dominated by Jewish women. So, Jewish men were going out of their way to promote the image of the women as a big-tits-ass-pooter, and Jewish women were bitching about how the woman was being ‘objectified’ than admired for her brains and heart. But what Jewish women left out of their criticism was that Jewish men were the main players in the ‘objectification’ of women. They also failed to mention that Jewish men ‘objectified’ white women as objects of lust than any other women. (On the one hand, brainy Jewish women were insulted that women were being seen primarily as sexual trophies than as intellectual/creative equals of men. On the other hand, they were envious of the fact that blonde shikses with pretty looks were idolized by Jewish men. To brainy and big-nosed Jewish women, Jewish male fixation on the ‘shikse’ was like worship of false idols. Instead of respecting Jewish female intellectual ‘spirit’, Jewish men were drooling over tits and ass of white women.)
    Jewish men and Jewish women were battling one another, but the Jewish aspect of this was hidden, and the debate was turned into an abstract one of ‘patriarchy’ vs ‘women’s liberation’. But if anything, traditional patriarchy had disapproved of the sexual objectification of women and denounced Jewish role in vice industries.
    So often, the core battle is really among Jews, but it’s goyim who are used as battleground and it’s goyim who are recruited as cannon fodder(and who ultimately get the blame).
    We see this with Liberal Zionist vs Neocons too. Both sides are Jewish and have common interests, but they differ on strategy and tactics. But instead of just arguing Jew-vs-Jew, they use goy fronts and buffers so that the argument seems to be between ‘Democrats’ and ‘Republicans’, even though most gentiles, if left to their own devices, wouldn’t give a crap about stuff that Jews care about so much. If not for Jewish media domination, most Americans wouldn’t care about middle east problems or Ukraine.
    Since Jews want us to do their bidding, the Jewish family feud becomes our feud, and because we gentiles end up fighting one another, paradoxically the Jewish antagonists draw closer.
    Imagine a Jewish man and Jewish woman bickering with one another and boiling with anger. But instead of keeping it to themselves, the Jewish man persuades a whole bunch of gentile men to argue on his behalf, and the Jewish woman does the same with a whole bunch of gentile women to do likewise on her behalf. In time, idiot gentile men and idiot gentile women are at each other’s throats, and the Jewish man and Jewish woman look upon the big fight with amusement and laugh together.
    We might as well be living in cartoon world.
     

    Interesting block quote, Johnny, but I can’t take credit for it. I’m too vain to use different handles—I wouldn’t want any of my bon mots and pithy compositions to get lost in the aether! ahahahaha

  136. Nussbaum:

    I had the impression that jokes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists. Comedy might be cruel or stupid, yet, in aggregate, it was the rebel’s stance.

    Along with their rivals the Communists, the Nazis were the rebels.

    Nazis were humorless.

    They did have a taste for mordacious ‘gallows humor’: “Jedem das Seine,” “Arbeit macht frei.” Though I can see why Nussbaum isn’t laughing.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    I don't think I'd call it humorous, but I did find it sort of ironic that the officers of the German 6th Army, surrounded at Stalingrad, compared themselves to the Jewish zealots of Masada.
    , @Prof. Woland
    There is an old adage, "laugh with people, not at them." That is one reason, whites don't crack black jokes any longer. They just come across as mean instead of funny. This is particularly true with minorities that are hyper sensitive. It must be very difficult for a comedian to come up with material making fun of black people. Finding something we can all laugh about is near impossible.
    , @fnn

    Nazis were humorless.
     
    The 1943 Tiger tank manual was full of jokes:
    http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/02/wwii-nazis-tank-manuals-unexpectedly.html
  137. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Nussbaum:

    I had the impression that jokes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists. Comedy might be cruel or stupid, yet, in aggregate, it was the rebel’s stance.
     
    Along with their rivals the Communists, the Nazis were the rebels.

    Nazis were humorless.
     
    They did have a taste for mordacious ‘gallows humor’: “Jedem das Seine,” “Arbeit macht frei.” Though I can see why Nussbaum isn’t laughing.

    I don’t think I’d call it humorous, but I did find it sort of ironic that the officers of the German 6th Army, surrounded at Stalingrad, compared themselves to the Jewish zealots of Masada.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Berserkers recognize berserkers. But yeah, nothing funny about awaiting imminent capture/violent death.
  138. @SFG
    I'd actually argue all your conditions are met in a fair number of people, it's just that feminism was a lot more than an intra-Jewish spat. Labor-saving devices meant housewives had a lot of time to kill, and some of them got it into their heads they could do their husbands' jobs better than their husbands could.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

    Feminists categorized by known religious (or ethnoreligious) affiliation.

    Atheist feminists‎ (71 P)
    Buddhist feminists‎ (18 P)
    Christian feminists‎ (7 C, 33 P)
    Hindu feminists‎ (1 P)
    Islamic feminists‎ (58 P)
    Jain feminists‎ (1 P)
    Jewish feminists‎ (249 P)
    Sikh feminists‎ (1 P)
    Universalist feminists‎ (1 C)
    Wiccan feminists‎ (10 P)

    That’s a pretty large disproportion.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    Also, I'd wager a fair number of those Atheist, Buddhist and Wiccan feminists were born Jewish.

    FWIW, I am familiar with a born-Catholic feminist who converted to Judaism, but reads and shows a lot of interest in Buddhism (or what passes for Buddhism in the SWPL West). I would categorize her as Atheist, though.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Where are the Mormons?

    They pushed women's suffrage before any of these groups. For obvious reasons!
  139. @Reg Cæsar
    Some guys are into the mother-daughter thing. One gay commenter on a news article said he once knew a father-son-son's best friend ménage. (Hey, it's no stranger than the rest of 'em.)

    The Iris Robinson scandal in Ulster was close to a grandmother-in-law tryst. Harold and Maude acted out in real life.

    Maybe it’s not quite the same as an actual mother in law.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Clark_Diaries

    “Clark is, at this time, also carrying on an adulterous affair with Valerie Harkess, the wife of a South African judge, and her two daughters (to whom he referred collectively as “the coven”). Clark made no effort to disguise the coven’s identity. The affair became public knowledge in 1992 after Clark left the House of Commons, and it was cited in the Harkess divorce case.”

  140. Like I’ve been saying, a lot of 1969 Era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments — especially by higher IQ daughters annoyed that their dumber brothers got more help with their education expenses from their parents — that got transmuted into anger at Society in general by that anti-noblesse oblige genius for maintaining ethnic solidarity by blaming gentiles rather than each other.

    It’s clear that Jews are trendsetters in more than fashion, economics, and politics. Since the 1960s, the above continues to describe feminism in all of its intersectional waves and phases. As a definitional characteristic, feminists and feminism are also wholly without humor … as if a bit of playful introspection was too threatening to tolerate.

    My contribution:

    “How can you tell if a woman is a feminist?”

    “Tell her a joke and see if she laughs ….”

    Not!

  141. @syonredux

    It’s interesting to contrast Trump with another outer borough billionaire of similar vintage: Ralph Lauren.

    Trump got rich selling tacky American opulence to the nouveau riche and foreigners; Lauren got rich selling British gentry style to the middle class.
     
    Yeah, Lauren's* love of classic haute-WASP style is quite evident. It rather reminds me of Woody Allen's love of mid-century WASP high culture.



    *born Ralph Lifshitz; can't say that I blame him for changing his name

    And Ralph’s son is married to George Bush the elder’s granddaughter.

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    I heard about that!! Her name is now Lauren Lauren, right?
  142. @Dave Pinsen
    I'm not so sure Lampert is making money on Sears's demise. I think he, and a lot of the investors who piggybacked on his Sears stake (e.g., Mohnish Pabrai, Bruce Berkowitz), had some delusional ideas about the value of its real estate. Lampert has kept the company afloat with financial engineering, but it's a turd swirling around the bowl.

    He’s kept it afloat by putting in more of his own money, closing stores, and selling some real estate. I’ve read that the plan for the near future is to sell more real estate and sell the Craftsman brand to Stanley Works. To me it’s reminiscent of the Ford Motor strategy of borrowing money against some of their real estate and even trademarks. It’s only available to those who have been conservative (owning their own real estate without a lot of, or maybe even any, leverage) in the past.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    If I were Stanley I wouldn't touch the Craftsman brand. Craftsman tools are just not all that anymore. Fifty years ago their wrenches almost equalled Snap-On: now they are not very good. The warranty is good, but since a large percent of Craftsman tools are bought and never or rarely used, they can cheapen the product, and did.

    The biggest problem with Sears is there is no compelling reason to go into their old crappy looking stores any more. Lampert is no retailer. Sears succeeded for years because it was an attractive place to shop, clean, with a good selection of quality products. No more.
    , @res

    It’s only available to those who have been conservative (owning their own real estate without a lot of, or maybe even any, leverage) in the past.
     
    Perhaps more accurately stated as:

    It’s only available to those who whose predecessors have been conservative (owning their own real estate without a lot of, or maybe even any, leverage) in the past.
  143. @Dave Pinsen
    I don't think I'd call it humorous, but I did find it sort of ironic that the officers of the German 6th Army, surrounded at Stalingrad, compared themselves to the Jewish zealots of Masada.

    Berserkers recognize berserkers. But yeah, nothing funny about awaiting imminent capture/violent death.

  144. Speaking of comedians in politics, I was surprised to hear Al Franken going on so hysterically about the cataclysmic threat of global warming yesterday in the confirmation hearings of our new secretary of the interior. Rising sea levels, hurricanes, and trillions of dollars of new opportunities if we would only see the light and start investing in solar! And not an ounce of irony.

    But the really funniest part was that he was so cock-sure he knew what he was talking about.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Luke, Franken features himself to be a tough guy, with constant reference to his days as a high school wrestler. Sad, that a scholastic wrestling stint is one of the high lights of his life. He will serve the Dems as their attack dog in residence during Trump's presidency. And ah yes, SOLAR, as in Obama's failed backing of Solandra and currently, Andrew Cuomo's huge investment in Elon Musk's Solar City.
  145. @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    “We’ve already established that I’m a persnickety cinematic party pooper.”

    Is that Leftist for “bitch”?

  146. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian
    He's kept it afloat by putting in more of his own money, closing stores, and selling some real estate. I've read that the plan for the near future is to sell more real estate and sell the Craftsman brand to Stanley Works. To me it's reminiscent of the Ford Motor strategy of borrowing money against some of their real estate and even trademarks. It's only available to those who have been conservative (owning their own real estate without a lot of, or maybe even any, leverage) in the past.

    If I were Stanley I wouldn’t touch the Craftsman brand. Craftsman tools are just not all that anymore. Fifty years ago their wrenches almost equalled Snap-On: now they are not very good. The warranty is good, but since a large percent of Craftsman tools are bought and never or rarely used, they can cheapen the product, and did.

    The biggest problem with Sears is there is no compelling reason to go into their old crappy looking stores any more. Lampert is no retailer. Sears succeeded for years because it was an attractive place to shop, clean, with a good selection of quality products. No more.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    Sears succeeded for years because it was an attractive place to shop, clean, with a good selection of quality products. No more.
     
    When was this? Before I was born? The problem with Sears was that it was a man's store but women do most of the shopping. Normal dept. stores sell 60%+ to women. At Sears, the stuff that men buy - hot water heaters and tools and car batteries, etc. was great but the stuff that women buy ( clothes) was awful.

    Sears should have never given up on the catalog. The Sears catalog was Amazon before there was an internet. If Sears had kept up the catalog they could have made the transition to being Amazon. At one time they had a huge network of warehouses and people who did pick and ship just like Amazon has now.
  147. @EriK
    Commenters at Taki's would be puzzled by that take.

    It was a joke. Of course Mel Brooks is 1 guy and she can take or leave him.

  148. @Jack D
    No, but I caught this one:


    the "Pussy Grabs Back” shirt I wore to the polls
     
    It's good to get our analysis of the role of humor in the election from such a clearly unbiased and neutral source.

    Wer Funny ist, bestimme ich.

    Part of what backfired on the Left was turning Hillary into such a humorless goody two-shoes (more than she is in real life, where she likes to curse like a sailor, especially at her staff). The SNL version of Hillary was a long suffering school marm to Alec Baldwin's out of control student Trump. No one really likes the librarian who goes around hissing shhhh! Also, people don't like being hit on the head with propaganda. Casting an attractive thin lipstick lesbian who was less than half of Hillary's age to play the fat, aged, saggy, wrinkled Hillary (as a saintly figure) was much too obvious a propaganda move to make her more appealing than the real Hillary (just as Saddam's doubles were better looking and younger than the real Saddam). If Hillary had been the Republican, they couldn't have found an actress old and fat enough to play her - dollars to donuts they would have cast some old fat white guy in drag and she would have been drunk and cursing on stage just like the real Hillary .

    You’re on to something good here. I think people are more and more turned off by the neo-puritanism of the Left/Democrats, and Hillary was the perfect embodiment of the schoolmarm/town scold who goes around policing everyone’s morality according to her (warped) understanding of the good and moral. Many more Americans observe the “live-and-let-live” principle than the “damn you if don’t agree with my moral principles” type.

  149. @scrivener3
    That's interesting. Steve has hinted at this theme with the private golf country club riff, but now it is out in the open. Just as there is a battle among striving non-jewish white elites playing out on a larger canvas of society unaware of the source and purpose of the memes they accept, there is a battle among factions of highly intelligent and verbal Jewish "interests" playing out in a larger society unaware of the source and purpose of the memes they adopt. Feminism is an intellectual byproduct of rivalry between Jewish daughters and sons.

    It is sort of a Marxian view, the thought construct is a superstructure on more fundamental and important power struggles among various "groups" or classes. It does not have to be capitalist vs. proletariat, can be Sarah vs. Seth.

    We get transsexual rights because it is a superstructure over . . .not sure, gays and women trying to get more NGO money from regular men?

    I tend to agree with Rand, Goethe and the Bible, in the beginning was the word. Ideas mater. Certain groups may latch onto an idea because it forwards their interests, but the idea is primary and the sharper of society.

    Philosopher of the enlightenment were creating ideas that shaped future society long before the average person in London thought much about logic and reason, but after percolating from thought leaders to accepted wisdom, soon we had some farmers and soldiers write the
    Constitution of the United States. Later romanticism unraveled much of the enlightenment in thought and in deed. Today we live in the nihilism of Dostoevsky (if god is dead, all things are permitted) and logical positivism.

    ” Philosophers of the enlightenment were creating ideas that shaped future society”

    Nonsense, most of them were talented as BS or con-artists nothing more, as they managed to convince their financial mentoring nobility that their incomprehensible blather was too deep for them, the dukes, fürsten etc, to grasp.
    Case in point : Hegel his meaningless jibber-jabber is understood by noone other than the philosophy professors who, in order to keep their jobs, try to give the impression as if they indeed understand it.
    Of course there were a few exceptions such as Descartes, Goethe
    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

  150. I had the impression that jokes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists. Comedy might be cruel or stupid, yet, in aggregate, it was the rebel’s stance. Nazis were humorless.

  151. Like I’ve been saying, a lot of 1969 Era feminism was Jewish vs. Jewish resentments — especially by higher IQ daughters annoyed that their dumber brothers got more help with their education expenses from their parents.

    I know a Jewish girl who’s father owned a big diamond business in Chicago’s Wabash Street Diamond District. She is obviously smart and has a good business sense. Her brother doesn’t and works as a guard at Cook County Jail. When her dad died, he left the entire business to her brother.

  152. @Buffalo Joe
    Kathy, Mel Brooks certainly is funny, "Blazing Saddles" is comedy gold, as is "Young Frankenstein." We currently have a Troll in residence here at Steve's blog. You can audition for the role, but bring better material.

    Blazing Saddles strikes me as overrated, being far most earnest than I thought it would be, not really just a zany comedy like, e.g., the Naked Gun.

    I liked The Producers (both versions), and really liked Dracula: Dead and Loving It. Never saw Young Frankenstein.

  153. @Autochthon

    [J]okes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists
     
    My father and his brothers in arms were a machine that killed fascists. I suspect this (((ingrate))) doesn't think much about that.

    [J]okes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists

    When informed early in his career that he was being “used” by a left-wing Communist-front radio station in LA, Woody replied, “Left-wing, chicken-wing, it’s all the same to me.” That made me laugh, not sure about you.

  154. @Prof. Woland
    Off Topic:

    It will be very interesting to see if President Trump ever wears anything other than a suit when he is staging photo ops. The guy always has a tie and leather shoes on except when playing golf.
    I don't think he even owns a sport coat.

    Most presidents dress up and role play to try and project an image that they are one of us. A fur parka when in the snow, a bomber jacket when hobnobbing with the military, jeans when doing something rugged like chopping wood. Like some first ladies, they wear the dress once then give it to charity or sell it on eBay.

    But Trump has his image. I think I would be disappointed to see him in jeans and a t shirt.

    Trump is very image-conscious. It’s an underrated quality in a head of state.

  155. @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…

    I’ve never loved his movies. Then again, he’s funny in person, and he is in my very limited experience an exceptionally nice man.

    And then there’s the whole Anne Bancroft Question…

  156. @Jefferson
    "Yeah, it’s quite interesting how the Jewish commentariat fail to notice that Trump is ,culturally speaking, a middle-class Jew from the Tri-State area…."

    Donald J. Trump is the Al Czervik character from Caddyshack.
    https://youtu.be/5dgxzItaQzw

    Donald J. Trump is the Al Czervik character from Caddyshack.

    I get the parallels, but I’d say he’s actually more of an Uncle Leo type:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayXlru5gJk&feature=youtu.be&t=37

  157. @utu
    "Its almost as if the Jews are the new WASPS."

    Minus being tactful.

    And minus the noblesse oblige to the rest of fellow less intelligent citizens.

  158. @JohnnyWalker123
    PrissFactor/Donut/DominiqueFrancon/Anonymy/Jenner/DNATurtles/[Insert Whatever name he's using this week] actually had a good comment on this topic.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-cultural-studies-retractions/#comment-780380

    War of the Sexes is essentially a war between Jewish men and Jewish women but fought on the battleground of the goy body.
    No bunch of men have done more to ‘objectify’ the female body in the modern world than Jews have. Sure, ancient Greeks were into nude statues and Renaissance painters were nude-ists too, but they presented nudity in artful and beautiful manner(though not always).
    But modern Jewish men have often presented the female body in porny ways. I recall Suzanne Somers married some Jewish guy in the 70s.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/suzanne-somers-on-surviving-cancer-gay-men-and-drag-queens-and-of-course-the-thighmaster

    The Jewish guy, Alan Hamel, was interviewed by Barbara Walters in the 70s, and when asked why he married Somers, he said something like “I wondered what she would look like naked.” This was the feminist 70s so, even as a kid, I was shocked that some guy would speak so frankly. But frank he was indeed. I mean no one would marry Somers for her brains, right? But I recall Walters’ disapproving demeanor. It was truly a Portnoyic or Portnographic moment. A Jewish guy married some ‘shikse’ because he was slobbering about thinking about her BODY, not her brains.
    And of course, Marilyn Monroe was the ultimate ‘white meat’. (Ron Rosenbaum should write a piece on that.) Though she tried to educate herself and read books, the only thing that interested Jewish men about her was her tits and ass.
    It’s all there in PORTNOY’S COMPLAINT. It’s not about Jewish men interested in white women’s brains, hearts, or souls. It’s about pretty face, breasts, ass, and pooter. And Jews were heavily involved in porn in Europe and especially in America. And porn was certainly mostly about using white women as OBJECTS of sexual lust.
    So, if any bunch of men did most to objectify the female body, it was Jews. And it was especially the WHITE female body. Conservatives were opposed to porn, and even most white liberals were uneasy with that stuff as wasps were of puritanical background and Catholics were sexually uneasy about such stuff.
    But in images and words, Jewish men were pioneers of openly dealing with male lust issues. And lust was about the body, not about the brains.
    Hollywood had many glamorous stars. But in the old days, censorship dampened and restrained open sexuality. But with the end of censorship in the late 60s and early 70s, the female body could be fully ‘objectified’ and ‘commoditized’ as sexual playthings. And Jewish men were at the forefront of this. Even blaxploitation movies that promoted interracism were mostly made by Jewish men.
    Though it was about lust, some Jewish porn-meisters sought intellectual justification by invoking Freud. So, it was healthy and natural for men to openly lust after female bodies and confess their ‘boing’-ish desires. Russ Meyers!
    Since Jewish women had big noses and were overly brainy, Jewish men were Portnoic in their lust for white shikse, especially the blondes. It’s like the guy in HEARTBREAK KID has no interest in Cybil Sheperd’s brains. It’s all her about sex appeal. And Peter Bogdanovich was nuts about Cybil Sheperd, divorced his first wife, and married her. Later he went after Dorothy Stratton, another blonde hottie tottie(who ended up badly, killed by jealous hubby; idiot thought he could ride her sex appeal to fame, not realizing that her fame would serve as a wedge between her and him; why would a woman hang with a loser when winner-men are after her?)
    In terms of racial dynamics, white Jewish men preferred to ‘objectify’ the white female, but when it came to blacks they preferred to ‘objectify’ the black male. Black women could sing, and they had fit bodies, but their faces looked too funky-wunky. So, black women weren’t really objects of sexual desire. In contrast, black men were winning in sports, the most prominent domain of male competition in the American mythology. Since promoting black male as the New Tough Man had a wussifying effect on white males, Jewish men did so, albeit with some trepidation(as, like Donald Sterling, Jewish men were also intimidated by blacks.) On the one hand, Jewish men enjoyed watching white guys get beaten and pushed aside by black males. They enjoyed the spectacle of white women going off with black men and making white guys feel like a bunch of losers. As Jews remembered how they’d been ‘dissed’ by snobby Wasps and big strong ‘polacks’(who stole lunch money), they got their racial-sexual vengeance through blacks. Especially because blacks worked for Jews in sports and media, Jews could even see blacks as their sexual-cultural agents. (Though white gentile hostility toward Jews has been greatly exaggerated, Jewish sensitivity is understandable since negative experiences or perceptions are more long-lasting and impacting than positive or mundane experiences. If a Jew has experiences with a 100 wasps, and if 98 treat him nice or normally while 2 really put him down, his experiences with the 2 will have a more powerfully long-lasting effect than his experience with the 98. It’s like most movie audience could be quiet and well-behaved and only a handful could be rowdy and disruptive, but you’re more likely to remember the rowdy ones than the fact that most audience members were quiet and normal. Jewish sensitivity is also paranoid to some extent. Oftentimes, it wasn’t a matter of how wasps really treated Jews but how Jews suspected wasps were feeling about Jews. It’s like the scene in CARRIE where Carrie thinks everyone is laughing at her at the prom when most of them were not.)
    And yet, the Jewish male all-out-objectification of the female coincided with the rise of feminism that was dominated by Jewish women. So, Jewish men were going out of their way to promote the image of the women as a big-tits-ass-pooter, and Jewish women were bitching about how the woman was being ‘objectified’ than admired for her brains and heart. But what Jewish women left out of their criticism was that Jewish men were the main players in the ‘objectification’ of women. They also failed to mention that Jewish men ‘objectified’ white women as objects of lust than any other women. (On the one hand, brainy Jewish women were insulted that women were being seen primarily as sexual trophies than as intellectual/creative equals of men. On the other hand, they were envious of the fact that blonde shikses with pretty looks were idolized by Jewish men. To brainy and big-nosed Jewish women, Jewish male fixation on the ‘shikse’ was like worship of false idols. Instead of respecting Jewish female intellectual ‘spirit’, Jewish men were drooling over tits and ass of white women.)
    Jewish men and Jewish women were battling one another, but the Jewish aspect of this was hidden, and the debate was turned into an abstract one of ‘patriarchy’ vs ‘women’s liberation’. But if anything, traditional patriarchy had disapproved of the sexual objectification of women and denounced Jewish role in vice industries.
    So often, the core battle is really among Jews, but it’s goyim who are used as battleground and it’s goyim who are recruited as cannon fodder(and who ultimately get the blame).
    We see this with Liberal Zionist vs Neocons too. Both sides are Jewish and have common interests, but they differ on strategy and tactics. But instead of just arguing Jew-vs-Jew, they use goy fronts and buffers so that the argument seems to be between ‘Democrats’ and ‘Republicans’, even though most gentiles, if left to their own devices, wouldn’t give a crap about stuff that Jews care about so much. If not for Jewish media domination, most Americans wouldn’t care about middle east problems or Ukraine.
    Since Jews want us to do their bidding, the Jewish family feud becomes our feud, and because we gentiles end up fighting one another, paradoxically the Jewish antagonists draw closer.
    Imagine a Jewish man and Jewish woman bickering with one another and boiling with anger. But instead of keeping it to themselves, the Jewish man persuades a whole bunch of gentile men to argue on his behalf, and the Jewish woman does the same with a whole bunch of gentile women to do likewise on her behalf. In time, idiot gentile men and idiot gentile women are at each other’s throats, and the Jewish man and Jewish woman look upon the big fight with amusement and laugh together.
    We might as well be living in cartoon world.
     

    Something to that.
    One aspect I’ve never seen discussed is the role that sexual selection played in the emergence of female beauty — blue-eyed nordic blonds in particular — and its relative absence for over a thousand year in the Eastern European culture of Ashkenazi Jews, where, especially at the apex, marriages were arranged between the daughters of the most successful merchants and the most promising Torah scholars. In other words, brains were selected over looks for many generations despite the fact that looks are and will probably always be uppermost in male eyes when it comes to what is sexually attractive.

    Not that there aren’t plenty of attractive Ashkenazi women, of which I’ve known quite a few.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Whereas the Western apex strategy was to pair up masculine men with beautiful feminine women. So half they time, they had daughters that took after their father and sons that took after their moms.
  159. Hey Steve, so my postings must first be ” Moderated” before publishing, and everyone else gets their opinons pushed through without “Moderation”.
    Hey Steve you are a stalinistic asshole and you can shove your phony “‘Forum” up your leftist ass.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz arist.

    • Replies: @res

    Hey Steve, so my postings must first be ” Moderated” before publishing, and everyone else gets their opinons pushed through without “Moderation”.
    Hey Steve you are a stalinistic asshole and you can shove your phony “‘Forum” up your leftist ass.
     
    Whoa. You are far from the only one being moderated here. It's easy to tell by looking at new comments and seeing which new comments appear before other old comments. Not sure how Steve determines auto-moderation, but it seems reasonable to me (as one of those who is moderated) and it is his site.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, I'm always moderated, but I'm a new guy on the block. It may be due to the fact that I don't leave a real email address (?). I also leave links and but in my own html tags, so it could be that also (but not all the time, like this one, and my posts always go to "moderation" for a bit)

    It'd be good to hear the rules of the place, but maybe they are on here somewhere, and I'm the jerk for not reading them. I wouldn't take stuff that personally, so long as decent comments don't get wiped. I am glad to be able to write - it's a great comment section in terms of both knowledge and ease of operation/features.
  160. @Luke Lea
    Something to that.
    One aspect I've never seen discussed is the role that sexual selection played in the emergence of female beauty -- blue-eyed nordic blonds in particular -- and its relative absence for over a thousand year in the Eastern European culture of Ashkenazi Jews, where, especially at the apex, marriages were arranged between the daughters of the most successful merchants and the most promising Torah scholars. In other words, brains were selected over looks for many generations despite the fact that looks are and will probably always be uppermost in male eyes when it comes to what is sexually attractive.

    Not that there aren't plenty of attractive Ashkenazi women, of which I've known quite a few.

    Whereas the Western apex strategy was to pair up masculine men with beautiful feminine women. So half they time, they had daughters that took after their father and sons that took after their moms.

  161. @Olorin
    That movie terrified me when I saw it at age 6 or 7 on TV.

    The antagonists of the story were precocious, platinum-blond-haired, Nordic-white children with super high IQs. They had more of a bond with each other than with their families. They acted far more calmly and with more maturity than normal children. They had unknown capacities of intelligence. When people or animals attacked them, they'd fight back with these powers. When they used those powers, their eyes got icy pale.

    But that was considered wrong. Later everyone was happy and relieved when they were locked in the schoolhouse by George Sanders and burned alive.

    I kept to myself how this haunted me till my late teens, when I told my teacher, who had published a couple dozen SF stories in the 1950s and knew the genre well. This is how I learned that John Wyndham, who wrote the foundational novel for the movie (The Midwich Cuckoos), described the alien-fathered children as having golden eyes and silvery skin. I.e., metallic-looking children, like 1950s writers might have imagined actual aliens.

    Given how relieved I was to confide this old haunt, it didn't occur to me to wonder why the children were constructed as blond/pale eyed (when invoking their powers). Not even in the 1990s, when John Carpenter's remake of the movie gave the children platinum hair and blue eyes.

    Today I ponder how the director of that movie was one Wolf Rilla.

    Rilla was born in Berlin, where his part-Jewish father Walter Rilla was a prominent actor. In common with many others in entertainment and the arts, Walter recognised the dangers when Hitler came to power, and the family moved to London in 1934 when Wolf was 14. He completed his schooling at the enlightened co-educational Frensham Heights school, Surrey, and went on to St Catharine's College, Cambridge. In 1942 he joined the BBC World Service's German section, transferring to television in the late 1940s.
     

    Source: Wikipedia

    The trailer terrified me when I was six or seven. I saw it years later as an adult. I still remember that in the Russian village in which the aliens were born, the Russians solved the problem with an atomic weapon (I think an atomic artillery piece).

  162. @Jack D
    If you're the "top" that means you're not gay. Afghan men don't think of themselves as gay either.

    To expand on Jack D’s point, nobody but post-19th C Europeans thinks the top is gay. Nobody in prison thinks the top is gay. Etc.

    The category “homosexual” is bizarre. The idea that “homosexuals” are like heterosexuals except that they happen to be sexually attracted to members of the same sex is bizarre. Nothing like that is true. We and not the entire rest of humanity are the freaks.

    For fun and profit: go to 4chan and observe discussions of whether you’re gay if you want your girlfriend to peg you. (Answer: you are)

  163. @EriK
    Kathy has a point. Her linked column is worth a read.

    EriK, Every one who comments here has a point, I just happen to disagree with hers. Remember how long ago “Blazing Saddles” was released. You couldn’t produce it today accept for the scenes where all the bad guys are Nazi storm troopers, white rapists or Klans men. Otherwise, thank you for the reply.

  164. @Mr. Anon
    "Has any president in American history ever been less mocked or joked about?

    Is it healthy for a democracy to have a leader that it is taboo to joke publicly about?

    His effect on the national psyche/mood might have been as bad as his policies."

    A friend of mine once said that the only reasonable lesson to draw from Obama's Presidency is that you should never elect a Black President. The President is someone whom you should - must - be able to criticize. And since criticism of a Black President is, evidently, off-limits, no such person should ever be President..

    Mr. Anon, Point well stated, too bad no one thought of it 8 years ago.

  165. All this talk of mother-in-law jokes, and not one reference to Tex Avery?

    See 0:41, 3:29, and 6:02

  166. @Luke Lea
    Speaking of comedians in politics, I was surprised to hear Al Franken going on so hysterically about the cataclysmic threat of global warming yesterday in the confirmation hearings of our new secretary of the interior. Rising sea levels, hurricanes, and trillions of dollars of new opportunities if we would only see the light and start investing in solar! And not an ounce of irony.

    But the really funniest part was that he was so cock-sure he knew what he was talking about.

    Luke, Franken features himself to be a tough guy, with constant reference to his days as a high school wrestler. Sad, that a scholastic wrestling stint is one of the high lights of his life. He will serve the Dems as their attack dog in residence during Trump’s presidency. And ah yes, SOLAR, as in Obama’s failed backing of Solandra and currently, Andrew Cuomo’s huge investment in Elon Musk’s Solar City.

  167. @Jimi
    I find it interesting that Obama's mother-in-law has received absolutely no press coverage in the last 8 years. This despite the fact she has been living in the White House for last 8 years.

    “Mama” did get a little alt-on line coverage on the fambly bar-b-que junket to China where they dined on greasy bar-b-que yak ribs. The reason the establishment lügenpresse gave her no coverage to speak of is because she is such an uncultured lout and couldn’t figure a 15% to 20% tip in her head even if she wanted to leave a tip.

  168. @Jack D
    That's right - that's why the biggest pornographer of the post-war period was the Jew Hugh Hefner, with 2nd rank held by the Jew Bob Guccione and third place by the Jew Larry Flynt. And who can forget that work of Jewish pornography, I Am Curious (Yellow). And what of the Jew Chuck Traynor who forced his wife Linda Lovelace into porn? All Joos I tell you, all of them.

    I knew a smart black guy . . .

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "I knew a smart black guy . . .

    Apples and oranges. You still haven't refuted Jack D's claim that the top 3 biggest pornographers are all dirty pervert Goys.
  169. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Nussbaum:

    I had the impression that jokes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists. Comedy might be cruel or stupid, yet, in aggregate, it was the rebel’s stance.
     
    Along with their rivals the Communists, the Nazis were the rebels.

    Nazis were humorless.
     
    They did have a taste for mordacious ‘gallows humor’: “Jedem das Seine,” “Arbeit macht frei.” Though I can see why Nussbaum isn’t laughing.

    There is an old adage, “laugh with people, not at them.” That is one reason, whites don’t crack black jokes any longer. They just come across as mean instead of funny. This is particularly true with minorities that are hyper sensitive. It must be very difficult for a comedian to come up with material making fun of black people. Finding something we can all laugh about is near impossible.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
    Well, with articles like this do we even need to crack jokes about them any longer?

    http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2017/01/female_17_charged_with_knife-p.html
  170. So Lenny Bruce lost the election for Hilary?
    I always knew that guy was trouble.

  171. Off topic: Perhaps the dearth of mother-in-law jokes is that the mother-in-law is no longer funny per se. Before 1960, the bossy obnoxious mother-in-law was a staple for sketch and stand up comedy, not so today. In the case of your president’s mother-in-law, what about her would be a source for comedy? She has done or said nothing which could be mocked, ridiculed, or parodied with any comedic effect.

  172. @jon

    the Rodney Dangerfield “I don’t get no respect” routine
     
    I've been saying since the beginning that Trump is just a Rodney Dangerfield character come to life.

    Wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?

  173. @Prof. Woland
    Off Topic:

    It will be very interesting to see if President Trump ever wears anything other than a suit when he is staging photo ops. The guy always has a tie and leather shoes on except when playing golf.
    I don't think he even owns a sport coat.

    Most presidents dress up and role play to try and project an image that they are one of us. A fur parka when in the snow, a bomber jacket when hobnobbing with the military, jeans when doing something rugged like chopping wood. Like some first ladies, they wear the dress once then give it to charity or sell it on eBay.

    But Trump has his image. I think I would be disappointed to see him in jeans and a t shirt.

    You’ll be lucky to see him button his suit coat much less change into something else.

    Dude knows what he is doing with his look and how attentive others are to it.

    This is ammunition, you see, and not to be wasted.

    When you see The Donald dressed differently than his uniform garb, it will be for a big reason. He will be dressed differently in order to get everyone’s attention, which is a necessary precursor for delivering his message.

    If you are absolutely consistent in manner/appearance, everyone notices the slightest deviations, so Q.E.D.

    There are other reasons for maintaining uniformity of dress, but nobody said there had to be just one.

    Another one is that nobody tries to read your mood through your dress. It is a tell, really, to be selecting different clothes each day, a bit of a window into someone’s mind. Remember, Trump is first and foremost a dealmaker – so he claims – and hence a negotiator.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Trump wore a sport coat, white or khaki pants, and no tie to the Iowa State Fair in 2015. An interviewer asked him if he owned jeans. Trump said something like, "Romney wore jeans. How'd that work out for him?".
  174. @Flip
    And Ralph's son is married to George Bush the elder's granddaughter.

    I heard about that!! Her name is now Lauren Lauren, right?

  175. @Anonymous
    If I were Stanley I wouldn't touch the Craftsman brand. Craftsman tools are just not all that anymore. Fifty years ago their wrenches almost equalled Snap-On: now they are not very good. The warranty is good, but since a large percent of Craftsman tools are bought and never or rarely used, they can cheapen the product, and did.

    The biggest problem with Sears is there is no compelling reason to go into their old crappy looking stores any more. Lampert is no retailer. Sears succeeded for years because it was an attractive place to shop, clean, with a good selection of quality products. No more.

    Sears succeeded for years because it was an attractive place to shop, clean, with a good selection of quality products. No more.

    When was this? Before I was born? The problem with Sears was that it was a man’s store but women do most of the shopping. Normal dept. stores sell 60%+ to women. At Sears, the stuff that men buy – hot water heaters and tools and car batteries, etc. was great but the stuff that women buy ( clothes) was awful.

    Sears should have never given up on the catalog. The Sears catalog was Amazon before there was an internet. If Sears had kept up the catalog they could have made the transition to being Amazon. At one time they had a huge network of warehouses and people who did pick and ship just like Amazon has now.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    "The problem with Sears was that it was a man’s store but women do most of the shopping".
     
    So, can there not be one chain of stores where they make most of the money from men shoppers? They were great stores before they came out with the campaign "The softer side of Sears". Do you remember that, Jack? This was quite a while back, but I remember thinking "that's not a good thing, no, not at all". It was a great place for tools and appliances, but mostly for tools. I basically told them (not to anyone's face, but in my mind's pie hole) that "well, you can kiss the softer side of my ass!" Ha, ha, I just came up with that, I am LOLing as I write, which is causing tipos.

    I can't argue with your 2nd paragraph - I think you are right - they really screwed that up.

    Speaking of my remark before, until I learn to embed youtube vids on here ( I can on my own site), I leave you with a link to clip from Fast Times, with the young Judge Reihnold:

    HERE

    If you're in a big hurry, it's just from 0:35 to 1:25. Hahahaaaaa!
    , @Jefferson
    "The problem with Sears was that it was a man’s store but women do most of the shopping"

    Women should lose their right to vote just for ruining Sears, am I right Jack?

  176. @Kathy Shaidle
    The Producers is a stupid idea for a movie. And Mel Brooks isn’t funny…
    http://takimag.com/article/mel_brooks_isnt_funny_kathy_shaidle/print

    It’s no coincidence the the Gene Wilder movies are the only ones that hold up. Overrated, but at least OK – saved by Wilder’s (and, in the case of The Producers, Mostel’s) charisma.

    The rest is crap. Naked emperor. If you say you think otherwise, I don’t believe you. You don’t believe you.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    History of the World, Part 1 and Space Balls hold up too, and Gene Wilder isn't in them, IIRC.
  177. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Nussbaum:

    I had the impression that jokes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists. Comedy might be cruel or stupid, yet, in aggregate, it was the rebel’s stance.
     
    Along with their rivals the Communists, the Nazis were the rebels.

    Nazis were humorless.
     
    They did have a taste for mordacious ‘gallows humor’: “Jedem das Seine,” “Arbeit macht frei.” Though I can see why Nussbaum isn’t laughing.

    Nazis were humorless.

    The 1943 Tiger tank manual was full of jokes:
    http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/02/wwii-nazis-tank-manuals-unexpectedly.html

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    US Army maintenance manuals were similar back in the '90s (ones written decades before, presumably). Idea is to leaven dry technical specs & instructions for enlisted men who aren't big readers.
  178. @Jefferson
    "Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?"

    All of the kids were platinum white blond. Not even a dishwater dirty blond kid in sight, let alone a brunette kid. What was this village of the super Nordics? I think they were Albino kids. There is no country on the planet where 100 percent of the under 18 population have hair as white as Santa Claus.

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?”

    All of the kids were platinum white blond. Not even a dishwater dirty blond kid in sight, let alone a brunette kid. What was this village of the super Nordics? I think they were Albino kids. There is no country on the planet where 100 percent of the under 18 population have hair as white as Santa Claus.

    The Platinum blond hair was meant to serve as a sign that they were not (at least not entirely) products of the village where they were born.The title of the novel upon which the film was based is The Midwich Cuckoos…..

    The common cuckoo is a brood parasite; it lays its eggs in the nests of other birds. At the appropriate moment, the hen cuckoo flies down to the host’s nest, pushes one egg out of the nest, lays an egg and flies off. The whole process takes about 10 seconds. A female may visit up to 50 nests during a breeding season. Common cuckoos first breed at the age of two years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cuckoo#Breeding

  179. @utu
    "The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs"

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?

    The Platinum blond hair was meant to serve as a sign that they were not (at least not entirely) products of the village where they were born.The title of the novel upon which the film was based is The Midwich Cuckoos…..

    The common cuckoo is a brood parasite; it lays its eggs in the nests of other birds. At the appropriate moment, the hen cuckoo flies down to the host’s nest, pushes one egg out of the nest, lays an egg and flies off. The whole process takes about 10 seconds. A female may visit up to 50 nests during a breeding season. Common cuckoos first breed at the age of two years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cuckoo#Breeding

  180. @Olorin
    That movie terrified me when I saw it at age 6 or 7 on TV.

    The antagonists of the story were precocious, platinum-blond-haired, Nordic-white children with super high IQs. They had more of a bond with each other than with their families. They acted far more calmly and with more maturity than normal children. They had unknown capacities of intelligence. When people or animals attacked them, they'd fight back with these powers. When they used those powers, their eyes got icy pale.

    But that was considered wrong. Later everyone was happy and relieved when they were locked in the schoolhouse by George Sanders and burned alive.

    I kept to myself how this haunted me till my late teens, when I told my teacher, who had published a couple dozen SF stories in the 1950s and knew the genre well. This is how I learned that John Wyndham, who wrote the foundational novel for the movie (The Midwich Cuckoos), described the alien-fathered children as having golden eyes and silvery skin. I.e., metallic-looking children, like 1950s writers might have imagined actual aliens.

    Given how relieved I was to confide this old haunt, it didn't occur to me to wonder why the children were constructed as blond/pale eyed (when invoking their powers). Not even in the 1990s, when John Carpenter's remake of the movie gave the children platinum hair and blue eyes.

    Today I ponder how the director of that movie was one Wolf Rilla.

    Rilla was born in Berlin, where his part-Jewish father Walter Rilla was a prominent actor. In common with many others in entertainment and the arts, Walter recognised the dangers when Hitler came to power, and the family moved to London in 1934 when Wolf was 14. He completed his schooling at the enlightened co-educational Frensham Heights school, Surrey, and went on to St Catharine's College, Cambridge. In 1942 he joined the BBC World Service's German section, transferring to television in the late 1940s.
     

    Source: Wikipedia

    The Platinum blond hair was meant to serve as a sign that they were not (at least not entirely) products of the village where they were born.The title of the novel upon which the film was based is The Midwich Cuckoos…..

    The common cuckoo is a brood parasite; it lays its eggs in the nests of other birds. At the appropriate moment, the hen cuckoo flies down to the host’s nest, pushes one egg out of the nest, lays an egg and flies off. The whole process takes about 10 seconds. A female may visit up to 50 nests during a breeding season. Common cuckoos first breed at the age of two years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cuckoo#Breeding

  181. @Jack D

    Sears succeeded for years because it was an attractive place to shop, clean, with a good selection of quality products. No more.
     
    When was this? Before I was born? The problem with Sears was that it was a man's store but women do most of the shopping. Normal dept. stores sell 60%+ to women. At Sears, the stuff that men buy - hot water heaters and tools and car batteries, etc. was great but the stuff that women buy ( clothes) was awful.

    Sears should have never given up on the catalog. The Sears catalog was Amazon before there was an internet. If Sears had kept up the catalog they could have made the transition to being Amazon. At one time they had a huge network of warehouses and people who did pick and ship just like Amazon has now.

    “The problem with Sears was that it was a man’s store but women do most of the shopping”.

    So, can there not be one chain of stores where they make most of the money from men shoppers? They were great stores before they came out with the campaign “The softer side of Sears”. Do you remember that, Jack? This was quite a while back, but I remember thinking “that’s not a good thing, no, not at all”. It was a great place for tools and appliances, but mostly for tools. I basically told them (not to anyone’s face, but in my mind’s pie hole) that “well, you can kiss the softer side of my ass!” Ha, ha, I just came up with that, I am LOLing as I write, which is causing tipos.

    I can’t argue with your 2nd paragraph – I think you are right – they really screwed that up.

    Speaking of my remark before, until I learn to embed youtube vids on here ( I can on my own site), I leave you with a link to clip from Fast Times, with the young Judge Reihnold:

    HERE

    If you’re in a big hurry, it’s just from 0:35 to 1:25. Hahahaaaaa!

    • Replies: @Jack D

    So, can there not be one chain of stores where they make most of the money from men shoppers?
     
    The answer is basically no, because men hate shopping and will go only when forced to - when their car won't start and needs a battery or they need a left handed flywheel puller, whereas women LOVE to buy clothes and view shopping as a form of entertainment/therapy/fun. So you'll go broke catering to men. Even in the men's clothes dept. a lot of the clothes are purchased by women. And the margins on clothes are much higher than they are on hard goods.

    Sears tried to open some Sears appliance and hardware stores which are basically the parts of the Sears store that men like but they are pretty dismal places too - you feel like you have been transported back to 1975 and not in a good way, with flickering fluorescent lights and beaten up painted steel shelves and lots of tacky SALE! signs.
  182. @Hibernian
    He's kept it afloat by putting in more of his own money, closing stores, and selling some real estate. I've read that the plan for the near future is to sell more real estate and sell the Craftsman brand to Stanley Works. To me it's reminiscent of the Ford Motor strategy of borrowing money against some of their real estate and even trademarks. It's only available to those who have been conservative (owning their own real estate without a lot of, or maybe even any, leverage) in the past.

    It’s only available to those who have been conservative (owning their own real estate without a lot of, or maybe even any, leverage) in the past.

    Perhaps more accurately stated as:

    It’s only available to those who whose predecessors have been conservative (owning their own real estate without a lot of, or maybe even any, leverage) in the past.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  183. @Authenticjazzman
    Hey Steve, so my postings must first be " Moderated" before publishing, and everyone else gets their opinons pushed through without "Moderation".
    Hey Steve you are a stalinistic asshole and you can shove your phony "'Forum" up your leftist ass.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz arist.

    Hey Steve, so my postings must first be ” Moderated” before publishing, and everyone else gets their opinons pushed through without “Moderation”.
    Hey Steve you are a stalinistic asshole and you can shove your phony “‘Forum” up your leftist ass.

    Whoa. You are far from the only one being moderated here. It’s easy to tell by looking at new comments and seeing which new comments appear before other old comments. Not sure how Steve determines auto-moderation, but it seems reasonable to me (as one of those who is moderated) and it is his site.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    We could have sort of a running list of commenters who gripe about their comments not being approved fast enough. Maybe have a reward for the one that takes the longest to figure out what "by whim" actually means.
  184. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    "Mel Brooks isn’t funny..."
    I'm glad someone said this. Blazing Saddles is crap. Well filmed crap, but crap nonetheless.

    Agreed. The Jew is, as an ingenious, didn’t-see-that-one-coming twist on all Jewish characters in all Hollywood films ever, smart, honest, generous, funny and compassionate. And horribly put-upon. The black is smart, elegant and cultured, and a good shot. The WASPs are as dumb as dog-dirt, violent, drunk, easily hoodwinked, and sit around farting, if they’re not actually retarded (Mongo).

    Same old same old. Sasha Baron Cohen’s films are composed of exactly the same rancid lox.
    “Hee hee hee, I’m so clever, ohh so-oo clevercleverclever, you dumbasses can’t even see that you’re the real targets here ..” etc.
    Although the latest, Grimsby, which attempted to denigrate and beclown the English (non-)working class, took a rather satisfying shoeing at the box office, and he seems to have wisely kept his waspish old maid’s mouth shut since. As the Brexit and the Trumpening showed, you can only kick a tame dog for so long ..
    We’re easy-going, and far too busy to notice your adolescent nonsense, Sasha – but we’re not idiots. Watch your step, son.

  185. The Tigerfibel

    Nazis were humorless? The Tigerfibel

    ( Scroll down to the bottom panel to flip through the manual. )

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    You'll often hear people assert that Hitler had no sense of humor. A little Google search suggests that in fact Hitler cracked jokes and would laugh when he heard a good one. It seems that when you're trying to make someone look as evil as you possibly can, you have to strip them of every positive trait, like humor. It reminds me of the way politicians invariably describe terrorists as "cowardly." They're fanatical and fiendish, yes, but why "cowardly"?

    BTW, is there any evidence Obama has a sense of humor?
  186. @Jack D

    Sears succeeded for years because it was an attractive place to shop, clean, with a good selection of quality products. No more.
     
    When was this? Before I was born? The problem with Sears was that it was a man's store but women do most of the shopping. Normal dept. stores sell 60%+ to women. At Sears, the stuff that men buy - hot water heaters and tools and car batteries, etc. was great but the stuff that women buy ( clothes) was awful.

    Sears should have never given up on the catalog. The Sears catalog was Amazon before there was an internet. If Sears had kept up the catalog they could have made the transition to being Amazon. At one time they had a huge network of warehouses and people who did pick and ship just like Amazon has now.

    “The problem with Sears was that it was a man’s store but women do most of the shopping”

    Women should lose their right to vote just for ruining Sears, am I right Jack?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Damn straight, Jeff. Nice idea. I will bring it up with the ladies at our neighborhood council meeting.
  187. @Achmed E. Newman

    "The problem with Sears was that it was a man’s store but women do most of the shopping".
     
    So, can there not be one chain of stores where they make most of the money from men shoppers? They were great stores before they came out with the campaign "The softer side of Sears". Do you remember that, Jack? This was quite a while back, but I remember thinking "that's not a good thing, no, not at all". It was a great place for tools and appliances, but mostly for tools. I basically told them (not to anyone's face, but in my mind's pie hole) that "well, you can kiss the softer side of my ass!" Ha, ha, I just came up with that, I am LOLing as I write, which is causing tipos.

    I can't argue with your 2nd paragraph - I think you are right - they really screwed that up.

    Speaking of my remark before, until I learn to embed youtube vids on here ( I can on my own site), I leave you with a link to clip from Fast Times, with the young Judge Reihnold:

    HERE

    If you're in a big hurry, it's just from 0:35 to 1:25. Hahahaaaaa!

    So, can there not be one chain of stores where they make most of the money from men shoppers?

    The answer is basically no, because men hate shopping and will go only when forced to – when their car won’t start and needs a battery or they need a left handed flywheel puller, whereas women LOVE to buy clothes and view shopping as a form of entertainment/therapy/fun. So you’ll go broke catering to men. Even in the men’s clothes dept. a lot of the clothes are purchased by women. And the margins on clothes are much higher than they are on hard goods.

    Sears tried to open some Sears appliance and hardware stores which are basically the parts of the Sears store that men like but they are pretty dismal places too – you feel like you have been transported back to 1975 and not in a good way, with flickering fluorescent lights and beaten up painted steel shelves and lots of tacky SALE! signs.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Jack,

    I agree with you about the clothes shopping and most other kinds, but not tools. I can look at tools for an hour, and if it were the good quality stuff like circa 1990's Sears, I'd make a purchase. In addition, once I purchased something, it would probably be for a decent sum, and Sears would be assured of keeping the money because the tool didn't break and didn't make my ass look fat or make me look hippy (ya know, cause hippies don't buy tools, or something ;-}

    Have you been to Harbor Freight? I could spend an hour there a week, but the problem is, it's all cheap China-made crap, as I explain in a parable right here.

    But yes, in general, shopping sucks. Women who do too much of it need to be put to work on a Manchurian pig farm for a while, until they get get their s__t together.
  188. @Bill
    I knew a smart black guy . . .

    “I knew a smart black guy . . .

    Apples and oranges. You still haven’t refuted Jack D’s claim that the top 3 biggest pornographers are all dirty pervert Goys.

    • Replies: @Bill
    Apples and apples. And the burden of proof ain't on me.
    , @IBC
    I don't think anyone can finger Jewish people with exclusive blame (or credit) for promoting pornography to the extent that it's available today; but I don't think you can exactly write them out of the story either:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/03/10/empire-of-the-obscene

    Comparing Hefner (with his Silverstein comics and Updike stories) to guys like Sturman, reminds me of that old line from Crocodile Dundee: "That’s not a knife… – THAT’S a knife."
  189. @JohnnyD
    It also didn't help Hillary's chances that she's completely humorless. The same could be said about her supporters, particularly her female supporters.

    Yes I noticed this in one of the election ads that featured a succession of po faced ladies looking offended at what Trump had said about women in the past. There was no trace of humour or irony in the ad and it just made the Clinton supporters seems like joyless spinster schoolmarms..

  190. Late night network TV comedy died during the Obama presidency. Rumor is Jay Leno was forced to retire by his Comcast bosses for making Obama the subject of jokes.

    Why NBC Fired Tonight Show Host While Still #1 in Ratings?

  191. Some comedian being interviewed about Trump’s Inauguration disingenuously complained about how horrible it was that Obama was just far too competent at his job to joke about. Laura Ingraham mined the “Mother Robinson” as a ball-busting interloper impression on her radio show for comic relief throughout Obama’s first term. She went where few dared to tread.

    http://tinyurl.com/hf5gukg

  192. @Jack D

    So, can there not be one chain of stores where they make most of the money from men shoppers?
     
    The answer is basically no, because men hate shopping and will go only when forced to - when their car won't start and needs a battery or they need a left handed flywheel puller, whereas women LOVE to buy clothes and view shopping as a form of entertainment/therapy/fun. So you'll go broke catering to men. Even in the men's clothes dept. a lot of the clothes are purchased by women. And the margins on clothes are much higher than they are on hard goods.

    Sears tried to open some Sears appliance and hardware stores which are basically the parts of the Sears store that men like but they are pretty dismal places too - you feel like you have been transported back to 1975 and not in a good way, with flickering fluorescent lights and beaten up painted steel shelves and lots of tacky SALE! signs.

    Jack,

    I agree with you about the clothes shopping and most other kinds, but not tools. I can look at tools for an hour, and if it were the good quality stuff like circa 1990’s Sears, I’d make a purchase. In addition, once I purchased something, it would probably be for a decent sum, and Sears would be assured of keeping the money because the tool didn’t break and didn’t make my ass look fat or make me look hippy (ya know, cause hippies don’t buy tools, or something ;-}

    Have you been to Harbor Freight? I could spend an hour there a week, but the problem is, it’s all cheap China-made crap, as I explain in a parable right here.

    But yes, in general, shopping sucks. Women who do too much of it need to be put to work on a Manchurian pig farm for a while, until they get get their s__t together.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Women shop. Men buy.
  193. @Jefferson
    "The problem with Sears was that it was a man’s store but women do most of the shopping"

    Women should lose their right to vote just for ruining Sears, am I right Jack?

    Damn straight, Jeff. Nice idea. I will bring it up with the ladies at our neighborhood council meeting.

  194. @Authenticjazzman
    Hey Steve, so my postings must first be " Moderated" before publishing, and everyone else gets their opinons pushed through without "Moderation".
    Hey Steve you are a stalinistic asshole and you can shove your phony "'Forum" up your leftist ass.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz arist.

    Yeah, I’m always moderated, but I’m a new guy on the block. It may be due to the fact that I don’t leave a real email address (?). I also leave links and but in my own html tags, so it could be that also (but not all the time, like this one, and my posts always go to “moderation” for a bit)

    It’d be good to hear the rules of the place, but maybe they are on here somewhere, and I’m the jerk for not reading them. I wouldn’t take stuff that personally, so long as decent comments don’t get wiped. I am glad to be able to write – it’s a great comment section in terms of both knowledge and ease of operation/features.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    "It’d be good to hear the rules of the place, but maybe they are on here somewhere, "

    Its right there at the bottom of every comment thread:

    Leave a Reply - Comments are moderated by Steve Sailer, at whim.
  195. @Frau Katze

    NYT column that copies Charles Murray essay:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/technology/how-netflix-is-deepening-our-cultural-echo-chambers.html
     
    I saw that. The editors seem to be flailing around, trying to figure out how the impossible happened.

    Crazy idea: NYT attempting some repositioning after the excoriations? They got slammed all around so maybe testing the waters now? Ok, too crazy.

  196. @Jefferson
    "I knew a smart black guy . . .

    Apples and oranges. You still haven't refuted Jack D's claim that the top 3 biggest pornographers are all dirty pervert Goys.

    Apples and apples. And the burden of proof ain’t on me.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Apples and apples. And the burden of proof ain’t on me."

    Apples and oranges because no Black guy would never make the list of top 3 smartest members of MENSA.

    Yet the top 3 guys who made the most money off pornography are all Goys.
  197. @anonguy
    You'll be lucky to see him button his suit coat much less change into something else.

    Dude knows what he is doing with his look and how attentive others are to it.

    This is ammunition, you see, and not to be wasted.

    When you see The Donald dressed differently than his uniform garb, it will be for a big reason. He will be dressed differently in order to get everyone's attention, which is a necessary precursor for delivering his message.

    If you are absolutely consistent in manner/appearance, everyone notices the slightest deviations, so Q.E.D.

    There are other reasons for maintaining uniformity of dress, but nobody said there had to be just one.

    Another one is that nobody tries to read your mood through your dress. It is a tell, really, to be selecting different clothes each day, a bit of a window into someone's mind. Remember, Trump is first and foremost a dealmaker - so he claims - and hence a negotiator.

    Trump wore a sport coat, white or khaki pants, and no tie to the Iowa State Fair in 2015. An interviewer asked him if he owned jeans. Trump said something like, “Romney wore jeans. How’d that work out for him?”.

  198. @I, Libertine
    It's no coincidence the the Gene Wilder movies are the only ones that hold up. Overrated, but at least OK - saved by Wilder's (and, in the case of The Producers, Mostel's) charisma.

    The rest is crap. Naked emperor. If you say you think otherwise, I don't believe you. You don't believe you.

    History of the World, Part 1 and Space Balls hold up too, and Gene Wilder isn’t in them, IIRC.

  199. @fnn

    Nazis were humorless.
     
    The 1943 Tiger tank manual was full of jokes:
    http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/02/wwii-nazis-tank-manuals-unexpectedly.html

    US Army maintenance manuals were similar back in the ’90s (ones written decades before, presumably). Idea is to leaven dry technical specs & instructions for enlisted men who aren’t big readers.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    For a long time, the great cartoonist Will Eisner held the contract to make the US Army maintenance manuals. They are classics. To comics fans, Eisner is best known for his private eye character The Spirit, which ran in newspapers from 1940 through 1952.
  200. @Bill
    Apples and apples. And the burden of proof ain't on me.

    “Apples and apples. And the burden of proof ain’t on me.”

    Apples and oranges because no Black guy would never make the list of top 3 smartest members of MENSA.

    Yet the top 3 guys who made the most money off pornography are all Goys.

  201. @Prof. Woland
    There is an old adage, "laugh with people, not at them." That is one reason, whites don't crack black jokes any longer. They just come across as mean instead of funny. This is particularly true with minorities that are hyper sensitive. It must be very difficult for a comedian to come up with material making fun of black people. Finding something we can all laugh about is near impossible.

    Well, with articles like this do we even need to crack jokes about them any longer?

    http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2017/01/female_17_charged_with_knife-p.html

  202. Edit window still a couple minutes too short:

    To be fair about Obama, has any president ever really done less than no drama Obama?

    Yeah, but that would lead to lazy jokes, and that sort of thing isn’t allowed in the uptight, provincial, sanctimonious world of the left.

    I don’t think it’s all that complicated.

    They’re afraid of blacks. They’re not afraid of whites.

    On the contrary, they’re afraid of Whites, but not Blacks. Blacks can’t take their jobs, and they don’t depend on goodwill among Blacks, the society created by Blacks, etc. Uppity Whites, on the other hand…

    True, on its own, humor is not a way to convince the other side to give up. But mockery can demoralize an enemy, and desanctify their goals, heroes, and values.

    It’s a wonderful way to deconsecrate their religion.

    This reminds me of Steve’s theory that Jewish anger at being excluded from WASP country clubs is just displaced anger by Ostjuden excluded from German Jewish clubs – another evidence free speculation.

    It’s not evidence free. Evidence is everywhere that Jews are highly ethnocentric; that they downplay or ignore Jewish malfeasance, but have made criticizing their rivals into their national pasttime. Given the existence of Jew-on-Jew discrimination, it’s practically inevitable that they’d tend to retcon it into Gentile-on-Jew discrimination, over time.

    Steve is at his best when he backs his arguments with hatefacts and not idle speculation as to motivation.

    Yes, right-wing Jews do tend to prefer the conversation go back to Negro Crime; a much less subtle conversation.

    That’s right – that’s why the biggest pornographer of the post-war period was the Jew Hugh Hefner, with 2nd rank held by the Jew Bob Guccione and third place by the Jew Larry Flynt. And who can forget that work of Jewish pornography, I Am Curious (Yellow). And what of the Jew Chuck Traynor who forced his wife Linda Lovelace into porn? All Joos I tell you, all of them.

    C’mon, naming all the non-Jews isn’t gonna help you here. For one thing, Playboy was only ever barely porn. For another, those three publishers are a long way from the center stage of porn, and have been from some time. The center stage of porn is an army of Jews with cameras in the SF valley.

    I don’t know where you get the “just” part.

    Straw men are often used to prop up weak arguments.

    Yeah, “projection” indeed. I’d never even heard of that term till about 10 years back and don’t go for any psychological mumbo-jumbo.

    Projection is not mumbo-jumbo, it’s a crucial human insight. And pretty obvious, once you think about it for a bit. People constantly slip up and misapprehend others’ thinking, because the errors are in line with their own thinking. A lot of peoples’ thinking about other peoples’ thinking boils down to “what would have to be going on in my head for me to have done that?” I bet actors are good at recognizing projection.

    I don’t think I’d call it humorous, but I did find it sort of ironic that the officers of the German 6th Army, surrounded at Stalingrad, compared themselves to the Jewish zealots of Masada.

    The message I always get from reading about Masada is, “death before assimilation.”

    There is an old adage, “laugh with people, not at them.” That is one reason, whites don’t crack black jokes any longer. They just come across as mean instead of funny. This is particularly true with minorities that are hyper sensitive. It must be very difficult for a comedian to come up with material making fun of black people. Finding something we can all laugh about is near impossible.

    Well, what will be done to you for cracking black jokes seems mean, anyway. The bit about noblesse oblige just seems like salve for bruised dignity that naturally follows the emasculation.

    Off topic: Perhaps the dearth of mother-in-law jokes is that the mother-in-law is no longer funny per se. Before 1960, the bossy obnoxious mother-in-law was a staple for sketch and stand up comedy, not so today. In the case of your president’s mother-in-law, what about her would be a source for comedy? She has done or said nothing which could be mocked, ridiculed, or parodied with any comedic effect.

    I doubt many comedians really spend much time thinking, “I can’t make this funny.” More like, “making this funny would be bad for me.” They think about it long enough to get it through their heads, anyway. Then they probably try to avoid thinking about it.

    I’d go with “she’s sleeping in a box in a gimp mask” line of attack, given the secrecy surrounding her; you make lemonade, you see.

  203. There’s been a lot written about gaslighting (lies that make you feel crazy)

    Gaslighting is a series of lies intended to make you crazy. It doesn’t cover being halfway there on your own and then feeling the other half slip away because you’re a sanctimonious prig.

    I had the impression that jokes, like Woody Guthrie’s guitar, were a machine that killed fascists. Comedy might be cruel or stupid, yet, in aggregate, it was the rebel’s stance. Nazis were humorless. The fact that it was mostly men who got to tell the jokes didn’t bother me. Jokes were a superior way to tell the truth—that meant freedom for everyone.

    Leftists’ continued delusions about their own rebelliousness, edginess, iconoclasm, etc., are like a cultural Maginot line, or Holy Roman Empire.

    For this to be true you need to posit all of the following:

    1. There were a lot of shrewish ambitious young Jewish women in the late 60′s;

    2. Who had brothers;

    3. Whose brothers were also bookish and intelligent;

    4. Whose bookish and intelligent brothers were preferred by their parents;

    5. Whose parents were financially constrained to the point they could not afford to fully pay for educations for all of their children, but not so constrained they could pay for their sons’ education; and

    6. The likely negligible number of women meeting every one of these criteria were an important factor in the rise of feminism, as opposed to the technological economic forces that greatly decreased the relative value of physical strength in the labor market, but increased it for more womanly service sector jobs.

    We don’t need six reasons to support the idea that Jews are ethnocentric, though. Just one:

    1. Their comments.

    P.S., 1, 2, 3 and 4 are just 1; we’re talking Jews who raise their kids to be bookish ambitious, and everyone with any sense would have viewed their sons’ prospects as more viable, ceteris paribus. 4 is a bit like saying “they would have had to be Jews who believed water was wet, or the sky was blue”; it pads out a list, but doesn’t do much else.

    As for 5 (i.e., 2), everyone’s resources are constrained.

    And now 6 (i.e., 3) falls apart.

  204. It’s all pretty circular: millions of mopes think black jokes aren’t funny anymore, largely because Jews have spent decades, and billions of dollars, making sure we got the point that black jokes aren’t funny anymore.

    • Replies: @guest
    That was doomed to fail, whoever pushed it, because they weren't going to stop black people from making fun of other black people. They do that right in front of us, on our tv screens, and white people laugh, so they know it's funny.

    There is, however, the conundrum presented on an episode of the Office, where the manager had to go through diversity training for quoting a Chris Rock routine. So you aren't perfectly free to make fun of blacks yourself. But you still know it's funny in your crimethinking head.
  205. Sharing a space with Michelle AND her mother? First time in 8 years I feel sorry for Obama.

  206. that got transmuted into anger at Society in general by the Jewish genius for maintaining ethnic solidarity by blaming gentiles rather than each other.

    Why did the Jewish smart girls suddenly begin to take umbrage about sexual favoritism toward male offspring?

    The Jews were probably only in the vanguard of a broader trend.

  207. @Jefferson
    "I knew a smart black guy . . .

    Apples and oranges. You still haven't refuted Jack D's claim that the top 3 biggest pornographers are all dirty pervert Goys.

    I don’t think anyone can finger Jewish people with exclusive blame (or credit) for promoting pornography to the extent that it’s available today; but I don’t think you can exactly write them out of the story either:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/03/10/empire-of-the-obscene

    Comparing Hefner (with his Silverstein comics and Updike stories) to guys like Sturman, reminds me of that old line from Crocodile Dundee: “That’s not a knife… – THAT’S a knife.”

  208. @Jack D
    No, but I caught this one:


    the "Pussy Grabs Back” shirt I wore to the polls
     
    It's good to get our analysis of the role of humor in the election from such a clearly unbiased and neutral source.

    Wer Funny ist, bestimme ich.

    Part of what backfired on the Left was turning Hillary into such a humorless goody two-shoes (more than she is in real life, where she likes to curse like a sailor, especially at her staff). The SNL version of Hillary was a long suffering school marm to Alec Baldwin's out of control student Trump. No one really likes the librarian who goes around hissing shhhh! Also, people don't like being hit on the head with propaganda. Casting an attractive thin lipstick lesbian who was less than half of Hillary's age to play the fat, aged, saggy, wrinkled Hillary (as a saintly figure) was much too obvious a propaganda move to make her more appealing than the real Hillary (just as Saddam's doubles were better looking and younger than the real Saddam). If Hillary had been the Republican, they couldn't have found an actress old and fat enough to play her - dollars to donuts they would have cast some old fat white guy in drag and she would have been drunk and cursing on stage just like the real Hillary .

    The funny thing is — I remember seeing a couple of the early Hillary skits on SNL (when she was getting ready to announce) and I was flabbergasted at the negative portrayal of her by such a left-wing institution. The writers and Kate McKinnon seemed to have perfectly grasped her creepily humorless and woodenly authoritarian personality, and they were definitely encouraging the audience to laugh at her and not with her. Of course, at that point, Bernie was still in the race, and these “hit pieces” may have been constructed to help him out. I don’t know whether SNL softened its portrayal of her later, but I remember thinking that her campaign had taken a serious hit after those first two portrayals.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Yes. I remember those shows you mentioned. Heads are exploding these days; and I am saying prayers that DT & MP stay alive through the weekend, at least until Friday, late into the night.

    But, the last line in Steve's post is so correct: I know lots of women, Jewish or not, who hated the fact that their dads (some moms) spent more time doting on the sons, even if they were losers. I was lucky: I was a Disney princess to my dad (almost to the day, dead for 25 years),sigh. Men, treat your daughters well, but train them/teach them like sons, so they can be warriors...so they're self-sufficient. The princess stuff is fine; however, my dad, gave me a rifle, hand guns, got me into fencing. He was disabled...which I have mentioned here, in the past.
    , @Jack D
    By this point (late October) they were just shilling for Hillary without any attempt at making her funny:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kjyltrKZSY
  209. LOL @ America’s First Baller President, spot on though!

  210. @Dave Pinsen
    US Army maintenance manuals were similar back in the '90s (ones written decades before, presumably). Idea is to leaven dry technical specs & instructions for enlisted men who aren't big readers.

    For a long time, the great cartoonist Will Eisner held the contract to make the US Army maintenance manuals. They are classics. To comics fans, Eisner is best known for his private eye character The Spirit, which ran in newspapers from 1940 through 1952.

    • Replies: @flyingtiger
    Somebody complained that the army was dummy down the manuals for their illiterate soldiers. I pointed out that Eisner was one of the best, and our soldiers were getting the best. There is even an Eisner award for comics.
  211. @David Davenport
    The Tigerfibel

    Nazis were humorless? The Tigerfibel

    ( Scroll down to the bottom panel to flip through the manual. )

    You’ll often hear people assert that Hitler had no sense of humor. A little Google search suggests that in fact Hitler cracked jokes and would laugh when he heard a good one. It seems that when you’re trying to make someone look as evil as you possibly can, you have to strip them of every positive trait, like humor. It reminds me of the way politicians invariably describe terrorists as “cowardly.” They’re fanatical and fiendish, yes, but why “cowardly”?

    BTW, is there any evidence Obama has a sense of humor?

    • Replies: @guest
    I think the cliche about terrorists as cowards derives from the one about bullies being cowards. They prey on the weak, and blah, blah, blah. We want them to fight like men, take on the U.S. military directly, and stand out in the open where we can blow them up more easily.

    Meanwhile, it's not cowardly for us to kill civilians, because...reasons.

  212. @Harry Baldwin
    You'll often hear people assert that Hitler had no sense of humor. A little Google search suggests that in fact Hitler cracked jokes and would laugh when he heard a good one. It seems that when you're trying to make someone look as evil as you possibly can, you have to strip them of every positive trait, like humor. It reminds me of the way politicians invariably describe terrorists as "cowardly." They're fanatical and fiendish, yes, but why "cowardly"?

    BTW, is there any evidence Obama has a sense of humor?

    I think the cliche about terrorists as cowards derives from the one about bullies being cowards. They prey on the weak, and blah, blah, blah. We want them to fight like men, take on the U.S. military directly, and stand out in the open where we can blow them up more easily.

    Meanwhile, it’s not cowardly for us to kill civilians, because…reasons.

  213. @SteveRogers42
    The funny thing is -- I remember seeing a couple of the early Hillary skits on SNL (when she was getting ready to announce) and I was flabbergasted at the negative portrayal of her by such a left-wing institution. The writers and Kate McKinnon seemed to have perfectly grasped her creepily humorless and woodenly authoritarian personality, and they were definitely encouraging the audience to laugh at her and not with her. Of course, at that point, Bernie was still in the race, and these "hit pieces" may have been constructed to help him out. I don't know whether SNL softened its portrayal of her later, but I remember thinking that her campaign had taken a serious hit after those first two portrayals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK2Mvd-nH9o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdNYXMQoy8

    Yes. I remember those shows you mentioned. Heads are exploding these days; and I am saying prayers that DT & MP stay alive through the weekend, at least until Friday, late into the night.

    But, the last line in Steve’s post is so correct: I know lots of women, Jewish or not, who hated the fact that their dads (some moms) spent more time doting on the sons, even if they were losers. I was lucky: I was a Disney princess to my dad (almost to the day, dead for 25 years),sigh. Men, treat your daughters well, but train them/teach them like sons, so they can be warriors…so they’re self-sufficient. The princess stuff is fine; however, my dad, gave me a rifle, hand guns, got me into fencing. He was disabled…which I have mentioned here, in the past.

  214. @Svigor
    It's all pretty circular: millions of mopes think black jokes aren't funny anymore, largely because Jews have spent decades, and billions of dollars, making sure we got the point that black jokes aren't funny anymore.

    That was doomed to fail, whoever pushed it, because they weren’t going to stop black people from making fun of other black people. They do that right in front of us, on our tv screens, and white people laugh, so they know it’s funny.

    There is, however, the conundrum presented on an episode of the Office, where the manager had to go through diversity training for quoting a Chris Rock routine. So you aren’t perfectly free to make fun of blacks yourself. But you still know it’s funny in your crimethinking head.

  215. @Achmed E. Newman
    Jack,

    I agree with you about the clothes shopping and most other kinds, but not tools. I can look at tools for an hour, and if it were the good quality stuff like circa 1990's Sears, I'd make a purchase. In addition, once I purchased something, it would probably be for a decent sum, and Sears would be assured of keeping the money because the tool didn't break and didn't make my ass look fat or make me look hippy (ya know, cause hippies don't buy tools, or something ;-}

    Have you been to Harbor Freight? I could spend an hour there a week, but the problem is, it's all cheap China-made crap, as I explain in a parable right here.

    But yes, in general, shopping sucks. Women who do too much of it need to be put to work on a Manchurian pig farm for a while, until they get get their s__t together.

    Women shop. Men buy.

  216. @Anonymous Nephew
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

    Feminists categorized by known religious (or ethnoreligious) affiliation.


    Atheist feminists‎ (71 P)
    Buddhist feminists‎ (18 P)
    Christian feminists‎ (7 C, 33 P)
    Hindu feminists‎ (1 P)
    Islamic feminists‎ (58 P)
    Jain feminists‎ (1 P)
    Jewish feminists‎ (249 P)
    Sikh feminists‎ (1 P)
    Universalist feminists‎ (1 C)
    Wiccan feminists‎ (10 P)
     
    That's a pretty large disproportion.

    Also, I’d wager a fair number of those Atheist, Buddhist and Wiccan feminists were born Jewish.

    FWIW, I am familiar with a born-Catholic feminist who converted to Judaism, but reads and shows a lot of interest in Buddhism (or what passes for Buddhism in the SWPL West). I would categorize her as Atheist, though.

  217. @Randal
    It's true, though, that comedy shifted from left to right around the same time as freedom of speech shifted from being an issue for the left to one for the right, proving all those former free speech advocates on the left who now support "hate speech" laws to have been straightforward hypocrites and liars all along, and for much the same reasons. One of the features of leaders like Putin and Trump is that they are actually able to joke - I laughed out loud when I heard Putin on BBC radio this evening deadpanning that Russian prostitutes are "of course, the best in the world". I don't recall anything actually funny from the likes of Obama, Cameron, Brown or Blair in their entire careers.

    That's not to say that the vast majority of professional "comedians" aren't still leftist. It will just take a generation for the tired old leftist establishment comedians to get finally discredited or to die off, and to get them shifted off their establishment media perches, by the new, genuinely subversive future comedians of the right.

    Obame TRIED to be funny by saying NASA was inventing an Iron Man suit or something, it was retarded.

  218. In the latest Aquaman, the king of the seven seas threatens president Obama. I never saw a superhero threaten the president.

  219. @Harry Baldwin
    For a long time, the great cartoonist Will Eisner held the contract to make the US Army maintenance manuals. They are classics. To comics fans, Eisner is best known for his private eye character The Spirit, which ran in newspapers from 1940 through 1952.

    Somebody complained that the army was dummy down the manuals for their illiterate soldiers. I pointed out that Eisner was one of the best, and our soldiers were getting the best. There is even an Eisner award for comics.

  220. @res

    Hey Steve, so my postings must first be ” Moderated” before publishing, and everyone else gets their opinons pushed through without “Moderation”.
    Hey Steve you are a stalinistic asshole and you can shove your phony “‘Forum” up your leftist ass.
     
    Whoa. You are far from the only one being moderated here. It's easy to tell by looking at new comments and seeing which new comments appear before other old comments. Not sure how Steve determines auto-moderation, but it seems reasonable to me (as one of those who is moderated) and it is his site.

    We could have sort of a running list of commenters who gripe about their comments not being approved fast enough. Maybe have a reward for the one that takes the longest to figure out what “by whim” actually means.

  221. @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, I'm always moderated, but I'm a new guy on the block. It may be due to the fact that I don't leave a real email address (?). I also leave links and but in my own html tags, so it could be that also (but not all the time, like this one, and my posts always go to "moderation" for a bit)

    It'd be good to hear the rules of the place, but maybe they are on here somewhere, and I'm the jerk for not reading them. I wouldn't take stuff that personally, so long as decent comments don't get wiped. I am glad to be able to write - it's a great comment section in terms of both knowledge and ease of operation/features.

    “It’d be good to hear the rules of the place, but maybe they are on here somewhere, ”

    Its right there at the bottom of every comment thread:

    Leave a Reply – Comments are moderated by Steve Sailer, at whim.

  222. @Dave Pinsen
    The 2002 version of The Time Machine featured the half-Irish, half-Zambian Samantha Mumba as one of the Eloi.

    The 2002 version of The Time Machine featured the half-Irish, half-Zambian Samantha Mumba as one of the Eloi.

    I like the sound of it: Samantha Mumba, the Zambian zamba.

    OT, but public transit is perfectly safe, if you live in the right place.

  223. @Anonymous Nephew
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

    Feminists categorized by known religious (or ethnoreligious) affiliation.


    Atheist feminists‎ (71 P)
    Buddhist feminists‎ (18 P)
    Christian feminists‎ (7 C, 33 P)
    Hindu feminists‎ (1 P)
    Islamic feminists‎ (58 P)
    Jain feminists‎ (1 P)
    Jewish feminists‎ (249 P)
    Sikh feminists‎ (1 P)
    Universalist feminists‎ (1 C)
    Wiccan feminists‎ (10 P)
     
    That's a pretty large disproportion.

    Where are the Mormons?

    They pushed women’s suffrage before any of these groups. For obvious reasons!

  224. @utu
    "The Stepford Wives was clearly a shot at Connecticut WASPs"

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?

    Question: What Village of the Damned (1960) and the evil blond children that got annihilated at the end was about?

    Lots of evil kid movies around that time: A High Wind in Jamaica (with a young Martin Amis!), Lord of the Flies, etc. The Spock undercurrent, I guess.

  225. @SteveRogers42
    The funny thing is -- I remember seeing a couple of the early Hillary skits on SNL (when she was getting ready to announce) and I was flabbergasted at the negative portrayal of her by such a left-wing institution. The writers and Kate McKinnon seemed to have perfectly grasped her creepily humorless and woodenly authoritarian personality, and they were definitely encouraging the audience to laugh at her and not with her. Of course, at that point, Bernie was still in the race, and these "hit pieces" may have been constructed to help him out. I don't know whether SNL softened its portrayal of her later, but I remember thinking that her campaign had taken a serious hit after those first two portrayals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK2Mvd-nH9o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdNYXMQoy8

    By this point (late October) they were just shilling for Hillary without any attempt at making her funny:

  226. The forensic science fingerprints piece is absolutely the best i have read today.

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