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From the New York Times:

Why Latino Students Flock to One California College

By JENNIFER MEDINA 7:08 PM ET

Though they make up California’s largest ethnic group, Latinos are underrepresented in the state’s universities. But not at the University of California, Merced.

Why do so Hispanics wind up at UC Merced in the rural Central Valley?

… In the decades since a ballot measure banned affirmative action in California’s public institutions, the University of California has faced persistent criticism that it is inadequately serving Latinos, the state’s largest ethnic group. The disparity between the state’s population and its university enrollment is most stark at the state’s flagship campuses: at University of California, Los Angeles, Latinos make up about 21 percent of all students; at Berkeley, they account for less than 13 percent.

But at Merced, the newest addition to the 10-campus University of California system, about 53 percent of the undergraduates are Latino, most closely mirroring the demographics of the nation’s most diverse state.

Merced lacks the same national reputation for academic excellence as other campuses in the University of California system. It has the highest acceptance rate by far (70 percent compared with 16 percent at U.C.L.A.), and some students across the state do not see it as in the same league as the other campuses. Graduation rates have consistently been lower than at any other campus in the system: 45 percent of freshmen who entered in 2009 had earned a degree four years later, compared with 65 percent at San Diego and 76 percent at Berkeley.

Merced has yet to hire the star faculty found at other U.C.s and has a much smaller graduate program. The college does not attract the state’s top-scoring applicants when it comes to test scores and grade-point averages. Eligible students from California who are rejected from other University of California campuses are often funneled to Merced, which offers them a spot even if they have not applied. But more than 90 percent of those students rejected the offer, according to a 2016 state audit.

In other words, Hispanics flock to UC Merced because they can’t get in to better UC schools because on average Hispanics can’t compete with Asians on test scores.

It’s almost as if mass immigration has been making California more unequal.

In other California college news, the claws are out for STEM-oriented Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, the best of the second tier Cal State system for lacking diversity. While blatant affirmative action is, theoretically, outlawed at California public colleges, the well-budgeted UC schools use “holistic admissions” to impose quotas de facto. But since nobody cares about most of the Cal State schools, they just let kids in based on test scores and grades. But, Cal Poly SLO ten miles inland from Pismo Beach is the jewel in the party hat of the Cal States. So, cunning eyes are being turned on SLO to figure out how, in the name of Diversity, to make the college less diverse. From the San Luis Obispo Tribune:

Cal Poly is the whitest public university in California — by a lot
BY LUCAS CLARK

[email protected]

April 19, 2018 03:43 PM

Cal Poly has the least racially diverse student population among all public universities in California, according to enrollment data provided by the CSU and UC systems.

And it’s not close.

In fall 2017, 54.8 percent of Cal Poly’s student body identified as white, which is the highest mark of any school within the 23-campus CSU system, as well as the 10-university UC system.

So 54.8% white and 45.2% nonwhite is the epitome of homogeneity? Or is Diversity just getting rid of whites?

Nobody seems to know what the word “diversity” means in principle, so people just junk their principles.

The next-closest schools in the CSU — home to 484,297 students — are the Maritime Academy (48.5 percent white), Sonoma State (44.6) and Chico State (43.0). (Fresno State was at 19.6 percent.)

Additionally, Cal Poly has the lowest percentage of African American students among all public universities in the state, the data shows.

Cal Poly’s student body in fall 2017 was 0.7 percent African American — the ninth consecutive year under 1 percent — making it the only school in the state with an African American population less than 2 percent this academic year.

Cal State Dominguez Hills has the largest African American population at 12.3 percent, followed by Cal State East Bay (9.8), Sacramento State (5.8) and CSU Bakersfield (5.6). Fresno State is at 3.0 percent.

Fresno State is almost exactly as Hispanic as SLO is white, but that makes Fresno more Diverse.

Cal Poly’s racial divide has been under the microscope in recent weeks after multiple racist photos emerged on social media, prompting President Jeffrey Armstrong to place all fraternities and sororities on suspension.

Looking at the CSU system as a whole, Mexican American students make up the largest ethnic group at 31.8 percent, followed by white students (23.5 percent) and Asian students (11.6). That means Cal Poly’s proportion of white students is more than double the CSU average.

On the UC side, Asian students comprise the largest ethnic group at 33.7 percent, followed by Latino students (24.2 percent) and white students (22.5).

None of the 10 UC schools has a white population larger than 34 percent, including universities comparable to Cal Poly such as UC Davis (24.7) and UC Santa Barbara (31.8).

“They’re really unique in the system, in terms of both their geographic setting, the programmatic offerings and the way they’re set up,” said Mike Uhlenkamp, senior director of public affairs for the CSU. “So they pull not only from the state, but they pull from across the country, which is unique for CSU campuses, which lends to their demographics.”

Still, Armstrong noted that Cal Poly has made progress in diversifying its campus over the last decade.

In 2005, more than 67 percent of Cal Poly students identified as white, and that number has been declining nearly every year since.

Cal Poly spokesman Matt Lazier said applications for under-represented minorities for fall 2018 were more than double the number the university received in 2008. He reiterated that Cal Poly is “committed to, and has a documented track record of, supporting diversity and inclusion.”

“The effort is ongoing,” Lazier said, “and the university’s work is not complete until Cal Poly’s faculty, staff and students reflect the diversity of the state of California in every facet — gender, race, sexual orientation, class, ideology, ethnicity and more.”

But not ethnicity of who paid the biggest share of tax dollars.

 
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  1. peterike says:

    Nobody is even pretending anymore to hide that the real goal is eliminating whites. It’s just right out in the open, and it raises no eyebrows.

  2. 1661er says:

    CSU used to have leadership with more spine.

    I propose we replace Armstrong with the decaying corpse of late Senator SI Hayakawa, it should be an improvement.

    • Agree: International Jew
  3. No protests, no shut downs, no marches in Sacramento, no riots, no screeching La RAZA/Brown Beret types on CNN, no denouncements from Kevin De Leon? ¡Vaya puta sorpresa!

  4. AndrewR says:

    JFC, these people are absolutely batshit. I challenge anyone to deny that any sane person (at least sane non-”NAM”) in California is making plans to leave ASAP.

  5. Apparently in-state tuition at Merced is roughly the same as at UCLA and Berkeley.

    It’s not even clear to me whether or not the state recognizes that it’s charging these students (and taxpayers) for a degree that, as the lowest grade of a positional good, is essentially worthless.

  6. Merced is Spanish for “mercy” or “favor”, and it does sound like someone is doing them a favor.

    However, less than appropriate is the school’s mascot, the bobcat. The golden bobcat.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  7. AndrewR says:

    OT:

    Randi Zuckerberg (Mark’s sister) openly calls for laws against “Holocaust denial.”

    Money quote:

    “As much as I disagree with Holocaust deniers having a voice at all, the reality is that it is not currently considered a crime in the United States, and if we want our social networks to remove this hateful speech and follow the lead of many countries in Europe who denounce it as criminal, we need to expand the conversation more broadly and legislate at a national level.”

    https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/19/technology/randi-mark-zuckerberg-facebook-holocaust/index.html

    Wow. This is big.
    How vile is her thinking?

  8. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, any thoughts on Mark Zuckerberg’s support for Holocaust denial? Do you think he’s going Unz on us? Do you suppose he reads Unz?

  9. There are Historically Black Colleges and Universities, so now Merced can become a Historically Brown College and Cal Poly can become a Historically White College, then everything will be cool.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Olorin
  10. istevefan says:

    , “and the university’s work is not complete until Cal Poly’s faculty, staff and students reflect the diversity of the state of California in every facet — gender, race, sexual orientation, class, ideology, ethnicity and more.”

    Ideology? Are they really going make the faculty, staff and students reflect California’s diverse ideology? I’m guessing conservative types represent about 30 percent of the Golden State. I highly doubt 30 percent of the faculty and staff will ever reflect that.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  11. istevefan says:

    I am not from California, so someone chime in if you know. But I thought that once you were accepted to one of the UC schools, you could then do a lateral transfer to any other UC school. If this is true, why can’t hispancis enter UC Merced and then transfer to UC Berkley after their first year?

  12. Whiskey says: • Website

    The people of Stanford and Harvard want Whites purged from SLO. That’s the basis of anti White hate along with female revulsion against beta males.

    If every White dude was an amateur MMA fighter this would not happen.

  13. Why Latino Students Flock…

    Did somebody say “flock”?

    Oh, well, it could be worse– and probably soon will.


    By the way, if this were about Jews, would it be a Flock of Segals?

    • LOL: Mr. Rational, Bill
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    , @Anonymous
  14. Why is Cal Poly whiter than Humboldt State and Sonoma State, which are in whiter parts of California?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  15. I just graduated from Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and it is a great school. Nice weather, safe, beautiful area.
    I have heard this refrain time and again at the school, with self flagellating white liberals in the liberal arts or the campus newspaper complaining that Cal Poly is just too white.

    One time some Frat Bros threw an Indian themed party where they dressed up in stereotypical garb and this got the hypersensitive people all up in arms. A forum was held where students discussed how this made them feel and white liberals repented of the sins of their colonial fathers in the predictable fashion.

    Though I graduated with a Business degree, I had to take my share of the crazy liberal arts classes in order to fulfill my General Ed requirements.
    The most liberal class I took was Women’s Gender Studies. I had a feminist (woman) professor and we had to do this workshop where we all had to brainstorm how we would make the campus “more diverse” by 2022. I didn’t speak up because I didn’t see how this would be possible without quotas as the school is dominated by whites and Asians.
    The amount of anti-white garbage in that class was astounding. Being a blonde haired, blue eyed straight white male, I got the feeling that her and people who think like her regard someone like me as everything that is wrong with America–the root of all our problems.

    We also went through the usual nonsense about STEM and how it is unfair and sexist that there aren’t precisely as many men as women in those studies. There were a litany of other things discussed, how bad Columbus Day is, how “heteronormativity” is a bad thing, intersectionality, and the rest.
    I had to read a book written by some feminist lesbians where they explained how “problematic” Protestant children’s books are that teach little kids that sex should be between a married man and woman who love each other. Teaching kids traditional, religious based mores on sex was “problematic” because it reinforced heteronormativity and made kids who had gay parents feel like they were outliers (Sorry, they are!).

    This class truly opened my eyes as to how crazy the feminist, raced-based Marxist agenda is.

    Another liberal class I had to take was Sociology, where our professor lamented how Cal Poly is “the most segregated campus in California.” There’s no segregation by law of course, but that doesn’t matter.
    I could go on, but I won’t. I would absolutely recommend Cal Poly as a college to anyone.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  16. I sat through my son’s graduation ceremony at SLO last month and it was one long slow cringe. First was the ( President ?) that talked about the bad old days and how far we have progressed. Then he mentioned the new dorms that were named after the now extinct Indian tribe. Next was female Afro-American who lectured about black struggles, etc. etc. Then came the gay SJW who lectured us about the time he spent teaching in the inner city. On and on. It was pretty bad. And when you consider what the school administration sounds like, I am sure the purges are coming soon.

    Sadly, you want to hear something positive and congratulatory. Instead it was resentful and depressing. Contrast that to 4 years earlier in the orientation speech for the Mom’s and Dads (where all their money comes from) when they were courting the recruits. Excellence, great experience, and out in 4 years (SLO’s biggest selling point is that the average student gets out in 4 years saving junior’s time and dad’s money).

    • Replies: @anonymous
  17. countenance says: • Website

    I have read that UC Merced was established and put in (or near) Merced precisely to give Hispanic farm stoop laborers a UC campus that is quasi their own.

    • Replies: @JimB
  18. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Two questions I have about California, affirmative action, and referenda:

    1) Given the shift in California’s demographics, why not put another referendum on the ballot to bring back affirmative action in state schools?

    2) Why doesn’t a right-wing troll collect signatures to put a referendum on the ballot demanding Silicon Valley firms’ workforces in California mirror California’s ethnic diversity?

    • Replies: @cynthia curran
    , @gunner29
  19. Das says:
    @istevefan

    You still have to apply and get accepted as a transfer student.

  20. @istevefan

    Can’t be true. 15 years ago UCSD was rife with asians wandering around weating UCLA and Cal sweaters. Rejection denial – SD was the silver medal. If they could have transferred (and in doing so, restored their Family Honor), they would have been out of there so fast…

    See the rules here. They say students “may be considered” for transfer between UC campuses.

  21. Veracitor says:

    An administration internal memo just leaked from Cal Poly San Luis Obisbo states outright that the school is trying to reduce the proportion of white students it enrolls (link).

    Of course that is unlawful but the administration is not deterred– they know that Prop. 209, the special voter-initiative law forbidding the consideration of race in admissions to California’s government colleges (and government programs generally), is a dead letter.

    (The Old South’s “massive resistance” failed ignominiously in a few years– the “massive resistance” of the race-obsessed American Left triumphed instead, in less time, and looks to have settled in for the long haul. It will take quite a revolution to dislodge.)

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  22. @Buffalo Joe

    I like that, Joe. In the meantime, California has become a, excuse me, AN Historically White State, but at the same time a Futuristically Brown State. Get out while you can.

  23. @peterike

    I know. And how any sane White person can miss this is beyond me. This is not going to end well.

  24. JimB says:

    End brick and mortar undergraduate institutions in California. Only graduate research schools need physical infrastructure. An effective low budget education system needs to be invented which can be delivered with the tools poor Mexicans and Asians already have — a PC, iPhone, or iPad. Alcohol and soda taxes can pay for setting up the online schools and hiring the teachers. No white taxpayers needed.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  25. Why doesn’t a right-wing troll collect signatures to put a referendum on the ballot

    … banning pit bulls and pit mixes from the great State of California?

    is what I was hoping you were going to say.

  26. @Dave Pinsen

    San Francisco is doing a huge tax increase on companies there. Silicon Valley will lose lots of companies to Austin Texas or Raleigh North Carolina or maybe Huntsville Alabama. A lot of tech start ups now have to do with space and Huntsville Alabama is much better in aerospace engineering than the Bay Area. Also, because of the ban on ZTE, Chinese communication company Silicon Valley is going to get hit hard. With the radical politics at Berkeley and UCLA, I think I would prefer Merced can’t be as bad as they are when it comes to Antifa.

    • Replies: @Anon
  27. JimB says:
    @countenance

    I have read that UC Merced was established and put in (or near) Merced precisely to give Hispanic farm stoop laborers a UC campus that is quasi their own.

    By which you mean they can cut the grass, mop the bathrooms, and work in the kitchens.

  28. anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    There is a direct correlation between the stupidity and the quantity of propaganda. The more stupid it is, the more it has to be pounded into everyone’s brains. What the argument lacks in quality it has to make up in quantity. EVERY story has to be about racism, EVERY circumstance has to be explained by racism. If a meteor strikes outer Mongolia tomorrow, the headline will be RACISM.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  29. Grumpy says:

    On the UC side, Asian students comprise the largest ethnic group at 33.7 percent, followed by Latino students (24.2 percent) and white students (22.5).

    So the 250,000+ students attending the University of California are nearly 80 percent non-white.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Jack D
    , @Alfa158
  30. El Dato says:

    “The effort is ongoing,” Lazier said, “and the university’s work is not complete until Cal Poly’s faculty, staff and students reflect the diversity of the state of California in every facet — gender, race, sexual orientation, class, ideology, ethnicity and more.”

    This is about creating a Circus Freakshow, not a University.

    What kind of “more”? Venusians? The incredible Hulk? People with dual heads? Juggling Midgets? Fartists who can play Beethoven’s 9th using gas release while Man-Zebra dances to it?

    I’m starting to wonder whether the old superhero comics with the Diverse-In-The-Above-Sense “Justice League of America” may have influenced the subconscious of today’s deranged decisioneers.

  31. El Dato says:
    @anon

    If a meteor strikes outer Mongolia tomorrow, the headline will be RACISM.

    Actually it will probably be PUTIN.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  32. Anonymous[262] • Disclaimer says:

    Sorry, Steve, that powers-that-be, (left/Economist), *DO* know what ‘diversity’ means:

    The elimination (for all practical purposes) of heterosexual white males.

  33. anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    There were numerous large and disruptive demonstrations at this year’s Open House weekend in April – the weekend the university rolls out the red carpet to admitted students trying to entice them to accept – all decrying how “racist” Cal Poly is. It had the very nice benefit of backfiring on the SJWs though, the incoming fall 2018 class is less diverse than the previous year’s:

    “Additionally, more than 58 percent of the incoming freshman class identified as white, according to the preliminary data.” The fall 2017 class was 54.5% white.

    “If the preliminary data holds up, Cal Poly will enroll 19 first-time freshman African American students, its fewest since 2010. Last fall, 41 first-time freshman African American students enrolled at Cal Poly.”

    The university floated a plan to stick it to out of state students by stepping up their tuition by $2,000, $4000, $6000, $8000 over the next four years (current students get grandfathered at their freshman year rate) and using the additional money to provide scholarships to minority students but the kids voted it down. OOS kids are cash cows (they currently pay about $38K to attend vs. $25K for in-state, still a very good bargain for OOS) accepted at a 58% rate (vs. <30% for in-state) but are overwhelmingly white (75%), so they're part of the problem. They're about 15% of the admitted students.

    Cal Poly is not only the whitest of the CA public schools but also has the richest student body.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @International Jew
  34. anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Prof. Woland

    Didn’t the drunk student who tried to give his own speech and was hauled off by security liven things up a bit?

    SLO’s biggest selling point is that the average student gets out in 4 years saving junior’s time and dad’s money

    Wha? I thought SLO was well known for taking at least an extra quarter, if not an extra year to get through because classes are so impacted. Lots of kids are forced to pay extra to take their gen eds at nearby Cuesta community college to get out in time. To me, the fantastic thing about SLO is that the classes are SMALL, usually under 50 students. My husband and I both went to private universities and our classes didn’t get that small until junior year. Moreover, since the median family income is around $152,000 you get private school socio-economic peers at the smoking bargain of $25,000 a year. Check out the median income of the top UCs , they’re quite a bit lower. As long as SLO doesn’t trash their reputation by lowering their admittance standards I’m ok with the SJW handwaving from the administration.

    I’m not even sure Cal Poly’s heart is truly in it. The Engineering Open House welcome video we saw featured a black female engineering student telling the camera how you didn’t even need to be good at math to be an engineer. It seemed almost slyly racist to even have that in there. I mean, shouldn’t it have been a white guy saying that? We all know from tv and movies blacks are the genius scientists. And good luck with not being good at math and making it through. So far none of my child’s calc teachers have graded on a curve. The math department is among the most hard-assed on campus from the grade distribution I saw posted to reddit.

  35. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    So guys, if you’ve got high school kids, apply then to Cal Poly San Luis. Check the black or Afro America box and write an essay about:

    1. The “ my greatest struggle” essay should be about the horrors of being black and oppressed. Make up some stories about how a White woman clutched her purse when she saw you.

    2. There’s usually an essay about “how I’ll use my degree to change the world “. I’m going to become an illegal immigrant immigration attorney. Cal Poly’s an engineering school. Maybe “ I plan to be a hydrologist and go to Africa and build water systems

    Early acceptance and full scholarship is guaranteed

    Cal Poly is the only California campus I’ve been to that still has an abundance of good looking White students. That’s rare in California

    I occasionally do some work at USC, a private school I’m often the only White person in the building.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  36. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @cynthia curran

    Silicon Valley is in southern San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties, not in the City&County of San Francisco.

    Youtube is in N. San Mateo County.

    There are tech companies in the City&County of San Francisco. San Francisco can tax them, but not companies 50 to 100 miles away.

  37. Anonymous[303] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/07/18/asher-caffe-asher-kosher-shalom-boyle-heights-protests-defend-boyle-heights/

    Residents of a rapidly gentrifying enclave of Los Angeles tried to shut down the grand opening of a new coffee shop, saying the owner’s support of President Donald Trump’s stance on immigrants is reason alone to want him out of the neighborhood.

    … “It was very scary,” said Shalom’s daughter Yael. “There was a lot of people protesting outside wearing masks […] and they threw a significant amount of feces at our windows.”

    … In a letter from chamber president Jennifer Lahoda, she mentions a photo shared by Shalom on his Facebook page reading, “I wish Democrats would fight as hard for Americans, as they do for illegals.”

    … “Boyle Heights thrives because of our diverse immigrant population — The Chamber will always celebrate and support this fact. We will not support anyone who chooses to conduct themselves in a hateful manner, especially toward members of our community.”

    95% Hispanic, so 95% diverse.

  38. Ms. Medina, the author of the NYT article about Merced has the leftist ability to be in possession of all the pieces of the puzzle without being able to assemble the whole. In this case the puzzle is one of those toddler puzzles with only about four pieces and she still can’t do it. She’s exceptional.

    Meanwhile, dissimilation in action:

    Though he rarely spoke Spanish with his friends in Los Angeles, growing up in Koreatown and attending high school in Silver Lake, Jason De Leon, 20, finds himself using it far more often at Merced, where he is majoring in cognitive science. When he meets someone and picks up that they know the language, he will likely pepper his sentences with “pues” and “oye.” When he was setting up an event on campus and needed help, he shouted out to a group of friends the same way his grandmother used to call out to him: “Ven! Ayúdame!”

    • Replies: @International Jew
  39. Cal Poly is very popular with technical majors (science, engineering, and mathematics), who constitute almost half of the undergrad student body. There are also many agricultural students who study there. It’s pretty competitive, as the average SAT score for the 2018 Cal Poly freshman class is about 1,300.

    There are a smaller number of surfer/frat bro types too. Mostly in the business school. If more Hispanics start pouring in, the surfer/frat crowd will probably have to give up their spots.

    Then Cal Poly will become more like UCSD, UCSB, and USC.

    There used to be a time when lots of the Cals and UCs were easy to gain admission into. Nowadays, it’s super competitive. The students also tend to be much less into partying and more into careerism.

  40. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:

    The Engineering Open House welcome video we saw featured a black female engineering student telling the camera how you didn’t even need to be good at math to be an engineer. It seemed almost slyly racist to even have that in there. I mean, shouldn’t it have been a white guy saying that?

    I’m sure that the testimonials were true, in the sense that the black female student in fact was bad at math, and none of the white male engineering students were bad at math. So if it was going to be said, it was up to her.

    The question is how can you be an engineer and be bad at math? The answer is the same as the answer to the question how can you be stupid and graduate from a top law school? Answer: After graduation work as a lawyer for a couple of years, wash out, and end up in some other field (I include law professors and corporate general counsels under the umbrella term of “some other field besides law,” since you can be stupid and work in those jobs).

    A black female with an engineering degree is not going to be working as an engineer five years out of school. She’ll be in some sort of administrative, consulting, or advocacy job. She might be an engineering professor (teaching mickey mouse courses or else Critical Engineering Studies or The Engineering of Hip Hop). She might have a “consulting firm” that advises companies and schools on how to diversify engineering. She might do public speaking on the joys of black female engineering, which unfortunately she no longer has the time to do, what with all her public speaking gigs. She might be some sort of engineering manager who doesn’t touch the engineering. She might be the director of the Hayden Engineeritarium. She might host a PBS series on Engineering Thoughout History, with 7 of 10 episodes about great engineering feats in “Africa” by “African engineers,” such as the Pharos of Alexandria and the pyramids. She’s not going to be actually engineering anything.

    One take away from that SLO video is that their engineering program has been compromised at least to the extent that the tradition of first year “weed out” classes that bust the butts of engineering students and lets them know if they realistically will succeed or not in engineering must have been dumbed down. Weeding out is humane, in that you find out that you’re not cut out for it fast and have enough time to change your major or drop out with a minimum student loan balance. Also, for someone bad at math to proceed very far into a STEM program, the content and teaching methods must have been compromised, for instance by group projects where boneheads can get the same grade as the smart people in their groups, required courses changed, or “mentors” coaching black students on each test after intimidating the professor (who “doesn’t seem committed to diversity … are you sure you belong here?”) into letting them see the test.

  41. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Did the farsighted Mr Hitchcock really intend The Birds as an allegory for gentle, innocent white people being attacked and driven from their homes and schools by masses of dusky, unreasoning interlopers? Did the author Daphne du Maurier intend this? One must wonder.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  42. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    from wiki:

    It is the story of a farmhand, his family, and his community that are attacked by flocks of birds and seabirds in kamikaze fashion. The story is set in du Maurier’s native Cornwall shortly after the end of the Second World War. By the end of the story it becomes clear that all of Britain is under assault.

    Yep, pretty prescient.

  43. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hare Krishna

    The answer to your question is contained in the word ‘poly’ for ‘polytechnic’.

    You know, the sort of academic pursuit which is harder to fudge, even now.

  44. eah says:

    Fast facts:

    Only 10.2% of the students are white, ie it does not look like America there — if you are white, you might as well go to school in another, non-English speaking country: at least you’d be forced to learn a new language.

    UC Merced leads the UC system in the percentage of students from underrepresented ethnic groups, low-income families and families whose parents did not attend college.

    They say that like it’s good thing to have so many students who are no doubt marginal to the point they do not really belong in college at all.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
  45. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Grumpy

    Goodwhites won’t accept the fact of their desperately-desired demise even when they themselves are dying (or, if we wait a few years, when they are being killed). Their poor, unfortunate children would naturally have become Badwhites by then, but they’ll be enslaved, or worse.

  46. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I visit the nicer parts of California often and all I see are millions and millions of asians and latinos. Countless millions, with many more on the way, you may be sure. I don’t see black people there in appreciable numbers, but that’s probably because I don’t visit wherever they are.

    • Replies: @Slayer
  47. Realist says:

    The best way to further screw up the California University system is to continue degradation of the merit system.

  48. Anon[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Is that 25k/year all in (including room & board)?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  49. So uc-merced isnt on academic par with ucla or berkeley? Well that sure is a hot news item.

    • Replies: @dux.ie
  50. @AndrewR

    If Hillary had been elected proposals to make “hate speech” and “Holocaust denial” criminal would be moving through Congress supported by the likes of John McCain, Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham. We were just a few thousand votes in a couple of key Electoral College states from finalizing a one-party-dictatorship. It is painful to think that the 2016 election was just a speed bump on the road to Zimbabwe.

  51. @Anon

    “[H]ow can you be stupid and graduate from a top law school? Answer: After graduation work as a lawyer for a couple of years, wash out, and end up in some other field. ”

    Wasn’t this exactly the road Barack and Michelle followed post-JD? Michelle ended up in a “Diversity” position and BHO, discovered by Valerie Jarrett, never did an honest day of work thereafter. I am breathlessly awaiting the publication of their White House Memoirs. Maybe Bill Ayers will get a credit this time around.

  52. Flip says:

    It sounds like the Boise real estate boom caused by white ex-Californians will be continuing.

    • Replies: @Olorin
  53. KenH says:

    If there was a university in California where whites made up 75-80% of the student body there would be calls to diversify this bastion of white supremacy. SJW’s and minorities would riot, destroy university property and threaten school administrators. Jerry Brown would launch an investigation headed by left wing mestizos.

    Notice how when blacks and browns are a majority or supermajority of a state, city, town, university or workplace the cacophonous calls for diversity mysteriously go silent. So yes, as Steve and others said diversity is just an innocuous and high minded way to get rid of whites.

  54. anon[693] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterike

    totally agree. and then all the sneering (white) pajama-boys at slate write sneering articles the gist of which is “whites are just scared about losing their privilege! all hail our diverse overlords!” when the knives are so clearly out, can you blame us?!?

    p.s. just because you cheered them on, doesn’t mean the browns are going to spare you any thoughts. “allyship” only cuts one way with these people.

  55. sayless says:
    @Anon

    Diverse engineer grads can consult, engage in public speaking, or design pedestrian bridges in Miami.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  56. @AndrewR

    Thats why I openly celebrate the holocaust. I want to be on the right side of history.

    - Anon

    • LOL: AndrewR, Mr. Rational
  57. Slayer says:
    @peterike

    Its all about endless mass immigration to displace dispossess and ultimately subjugate the historic American peoples. That defines invasions historically. (When you come without being invited and intend to stay. )Whats astounding for historians is not a shot fired in retaliation. Likely the decades of propaganda and feminization pushed by mass media and corporate pr. First thing you do when you seize power in a coup or invasion is gain control of the television station and the daily paper. Control “ways of seeing ”

    Paradise lost.

    • Replies: @Anon
  58. My daughter graduated from Cal Poly (SLO) in 2010. Great school and she loved it there. She considered the other Cal Poly (Pomona), a minority majority school where whites were the third largest group but the school is not rated nearly as high.

    Maybe they should switch Cal Poly (SLO) to the UC system and Merced to CSU.

  59. Slayer says:
    @Anonymous

    Always an historically small population outside LA and Oakland. Make no mistake its an invasion as historically defined. Foreign peoples, races, uninvited and coming to stay and extract resources from existing populations. Rest is just sophistry, conversation.

  60. @Reg Cæsar

    Instead of Rufus, why not: “El Gatito Cara de Culo”

  61. Anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:

    So which is harder to get into, Cal Poly or UC Merced?

  62. anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve,
    looking at a map of SoCal, it appears that you have some Cal State options for your children. They could live at home to attend Cal State Northridge and maybe tolerate a commute to Cal State LA. For Long Beach State, Dominguez Hills and Channel Islands they would need to live by the campus. Good luck with that, and keep tutoring for those UC hopes.

  63. pyrrhus says:
    @AndrewR

    America should have a law requiring deportation of any person who advocates censorship, starting with Randi…

    • Agree: AndrewR
  64. @peterike

    Not whites, just other whites.

    It’s all (dull-witted, short-sighted) status jockeying.

  65. @istevefan

    Nope.

    Everybody would be at Berkeley if that were true.

  66. @anonymous

    Interesting. When my son visited CalPoly he said it was just too big. He would feel lost in a college that is basically the size of a city… 21k. Plus there was left wing garbage all over the place.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  67. @whyamihere

    I would absolutely recommend Cal Poly as a college to anyone.

    Your intelligent and engaging writing helps make that case!

    Now a question from an old fogey: what would have happened if you’d made that Womens Studies course more entertaining by politely disagreeing with the instructor now and then, and engaging her in a bit of debate? (And of course, having taken the precaution of signing up Pass/Fail.)

    BTW I’ve visited Cal Poly SLO and by my informal observation, the students were about 90% white. Lots of light-skinned Latinos maybe…

  68. @Cloudbuster

    Meanwhile, dissimilation in action

    The word you’re looking for is absimilation:

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/absimilation-the-second-generation-problem/

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
  69. @anonymous

    OOS kids are cash cows (they currently pay about $38K to attend vs. $25K for in-state

    Whu!? You must be including the cost of renting an apartment. Tuition alone is just $9k or so for California residents.

  70. Jack D says:
    @Grumpy

    Welcome to the future!

    Who was it that said that we go seamlessly from a situation where Affirmative Action cannot be ended because minorities are too weak to one where AA cannot be ended because minorities are too powerful?

    From the minority POV (and whether this is true or not, this is the minority perception), America treated them poorly for 300 years so once they are in charge it will only be fair for them to treat white people poorly for the next 300. People are shocked, shocked when they see instances of white people losing their jobs for minor failures to respec’ minorities such as violating the unwritten rule to never call the cops on them (“snitches get stitches”) but white people had better get used to life as a minority – it is the job of a minority to “know their place”. I say this not Tiny Duck style as a threat but just as a reflection of what reality is like for racial minorities everywhere.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  71. Forbes says:

    In some ways the NYT article is frightening (though not surprising) in the assumptions contained therein, as expressed by the writer, and as expressed in quotes by university personnel i.e. that diversity MUST mean conformity.

    It appears that the idea that differences in individual preferences and choices, in subject-matter offerings and coursework, and in academic qualifications and aptitudes, cannot exist. Everyone is the same, except for their skin tone–which doesn’t matter, except when it does.

    Missing from the article outtakes were any mention of the student population breakdown by sex.
    Presumably, as undergraduates are now about 60% female, vs 40% male, male under-representation doesn’t merit noticing because “you go, grrl” /Pokemon Victimization Points/empowerment/ whatever…

  72. Anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    I think it was Christopher Caldwell in Reflections on the Revolution in Europe.

  73. @anonymous

    My son mentioned about the drunk student. Unfortunately, we came at the last minute and sat on the other side of the stadium so I did not get a good view of it.

    I am not sure if it is exactly 4 years but they do have the fastest graduation rate of any State College. They have very defined majors and are loathe to let students change majors. They really try to get you in and out asap.

    A lot of the engineering students come from the central valley. It seems humble but their parents own farms and some are very well off. That is also why they work so hard. They have “jobs” waiting for them, such as running the family ag business. They are not picking the fruit by the way.

    Many people who come to the cost around SLO area for vacations are from the central valley where in the summer is gets hotter than hell. The joke about Grover Beach is that its real name is Bakersfield-by-the-Sea.

  74. Jack D says:
    @International Jew

    Lots of light-skinned Latinos maybe

    This is what people are missing about the “Latino wave”. A lot of the lighter skinned Latinos (and their even lighter skinned children when they marry whites) will in the future identify and live as ordinary white Americans. Maybe, like Liz Warren, they will check the Latino box in order to get gibs, but they will know that that is BS and consider themselves white otherwise.

    Which is not to say that it is a good idea to let millions upon millions more of them in, but I don’t think that they will be the same intractable mess unto the 10th generation that black people have been. In fact they will contribute (have already contributed) to the whitening of America since real whites forgot to have children.

    Maybe if there weren’t all those Latinos around stealing their landscaping jobs, white Americans would be having 3 kids each of their own but I am dubious – even in places where there are not a lot of immigrants (Spain) white people have forgotten how to have children.

  75. @International Jew

    Oh come on, I had just worked a long day, was tired, and was about to go to bed so I wrote it hastily. Yeah, I made one grammatical error. Cut me some slack man.
    I got an A in the class by the way.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  76. Anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Slayer

    Why did you put “ways of seeing” in quotes?

    • Replies: @sayless
  77. @International Jew

    I couldn’t take the class credit/no credit because I had already used that for a Philosophy class. The women’s gender studies professor was nice, but I wasn’t sure if it was just a thin veil of niceness under which hid anger at being challenged, so I didn’t want to stir the pot. Not many people did.
    Whenever someone brought up a contrary point, she would just nod her head and move on.
    By the way, Cal Poly just added a Queer Studies minor, so it appears the left wing rot will continue to grow.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  78. Alfa158 says:
    @Grumpy

    20% sounds very roughly right for the overall percentage of college age people in California who are White. In the Los Angeles metropolitan area high school and below age children are more like in the 5-10% range.
    I was once in a mall in central Orange County which used to be renowned as being hideously White. While I was sitting there waiting for my wife to try on clothes I started keeping a running count in my head of people who were unambiguously White versus unambiguously non-White, and I came up with a percentage of 20% White. (Some were tough to call. For example the number of White women and number of women wearing hijabs were roughly equal, but a few of the women in hijabs were very White looking so how do you count them?)

  79. @International Jew

    I’m a big Derb fan, and absimilation is a good word (not found in any dictionaries I know of, but a valid coinage), but the two words are as close to synonyms as makes no difference:

    dissimilation (dĭ-sĭmˌə-lāˈshən)►
    n. The act or process of making or becoming dissimilar.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  80. @Cloudbuster

    The as in assimilation comes from the Latin preposition ad, which means toward (the ‘d’ having turned into an ‘a’ for reasons of euphony). The opposite of ad in Latin is abfrom. That’s why Derb, ever the scholar, proposed absimilation as the opposite of assimilation.

  81. @whyamihere

    Easy now, cowboy! My first sentence wasn’t intended ironically at all.

  82. Olorin says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Heh.

    But seriously, the whole game here is federal tax farming. These Melanin Uber Alles campuses are run by extremely well paid administrators who planned to turn all second- to sixth-tier Ed Biz outposts into Shop-Vacs of DC dolt-wrangling dollars. It’s pretty lucrative. George Bridges, president of The Evergreen State College, who is doubling down on destroying the place (probably for his commercial real estate industry buddies) by ensuring all warm bodies of the right hue get college degrees simply for demanding one, makes a good half million a year in salary, bennies, and perks.

    And when the manure hits the combine, youse taxpayer white men will cover all the necessary costs. Which will amount to an enormous subsidy to the real estate industry mavens who step in to liquidate all these campuses, and their land, at bottom dollar.

    You’ll also pay for all the Ed Biz workers thrown out on the street. Remember, higher ed was where a lot of whites went for jobs from the 1970s to 2000s as our industries went offshore to make vast profits, liquidating American communities and entire sectors.

    But let’s look on the bright side: with the help of Purdue Pharma and other Sackleresque innovations, white men are killing themselves at record numbers, so that should leave more sugar for the melanists and their wranglers.

    • Replies: @penskefile
  83. @whyamihere

    What position did you take in your papers?

    • Replies: @International Jew
  84. gunner29 says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Given the shift in California’s demographics, why not put another referendum on the ballot to bring back affirmative action in state schools?

    2) Why doesn’t a right-wing troll collect signatures to put a referendum on the ballot demanding Silicon Valley firms’ workforces in California mirror California’s ethnic diversity?

    No need for another AA referendum, the existing schools have figured out how to get around Connerly’s deal. The leftys will only spend the money to get a referendum when it’s an important goal; like the lefty pinhead that funded the break Kali into 3 states deal.

    He wanted 4 more lefty senators instead of the 2 they got. Gerrymandered the lines so all 3 states would be majority lefty pinhead voters.

    Anything done by a conservative will be shot down by the 98th percentile lefty media. They’ll frame signing the petition as cutting your own throat.

    The petition gatherers will be attacked by antifa, so they won’t be able get the million plus signatures they need. There could be a riot of petition gatherers and antifa, and a couple dozen cops standing around watching, as long as the antifa are winning, the cops will leave them alone. Let the petition peeps start kicking the shit out of the antifa, then the cops will arrest all the petitioners.

    Been happening for the last 3 years, all over the state.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  85. I think that two factors broke decent whites’ hearts, and set them on the path to genocide:

    1. Their betrayal, at the hands of other whites; and

    2. Their inability to get around the fact that the battle could not be won through legal, non-violent means such as elections and referenda.

  86. @Nicholas Stix

    He tells us elsewhere he got an A. He seems like an intelligent young fellow so I’d expect A is what he’d get in a real humanities course. But this being Womens Studies, I’m afraid his A carries a whiff of cuckery, ie having repeated the instructor’s nonsense back to her.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @whyamihere
  87. @gunner29

    He wanted 4 more lefty senators instead of the 2 they got. Gerrymandered the lines so all 3 states would be majority lefty pinhead voters.

    Good point, and one not widely known. If this thing had gone through, the proponents of “the State of Jefferson” would still not have gotten what they wanted.

    Sadly, there’s no way to carve out a piece of California (barring extreme gerrymandering) that produces a solid Republican state that has even the population of Alaska.

  88. gunner29 says:
    @anonymous

    black female engineering student telling the camera how you didn’t even need to be good at math to be an engineer.

    I’m sure all the antifa want to cross a bridge, or fly in an airliner designed by her! Instead of some white or asian guy with the 99th percentile math ability. LOL

    Wacist honky!

    So far none of my child’s calc teachers have graded on a curve. The math department is among the most hard-assed on campus from the grade distribution I saw posted to reddit.

    If they’re not grading on a curve, then it’s nowhere as hard as it could be. Imagine a bunch of Nobel science award winners and give them some mother of all impossible math tests. Then grade it on a curve; some are gonna flunk.

    Among the really bright mathematicians, Einstein was considered below average.

    I went to a flagship state U. The calc classes were on a curve; the admins and faculty were trying to figure out the best 25% in the freshman class. Top 25% was probably 95th percentile and up in math ability in the general population. So that was about 500 out of the 2K freshmen that took the class.

    They were fast tracked into the STEM majors. The U didn’t really want very many with lesser ability getting into STEM. They wanted to uphold the 100+ year tradition that our STEM grads are among the top in the country.

    And they were/are.

    Plus they didn’t have the profs and labs to have 50% more peeps in STEM, they needed a whole bunch to forget STEM and to head over to the liberal arts classes where they had 80% of the faculty.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Jim Don Bob
  89. gunner29 says:
    @Anon

    She might host a PBS series on Engineering Thoughout History, with 7 of 10 episodes about great engineering feats in “Africa” by “African engineers,”

    They be doing that already; there’s a new NOVA program that has been coming on after the original one. All the hosts are non-whites; usually negro womyn, or Indian womyn (dot not feather), or some dusky lookin’ guy.

    They might sneak a white womyn in once in a while, maybe one (1) white guy person per hour.

    I can watch about 10 minutes; maybe. It’s such blatant PC crap.

    The question is how can you be an engineer and be bad at math? The answer is the same as the answer to the question how can you be stupid and graduate from a top law school? Answer: After graduation work as a lawyer for a couple of years, wash out, and end up in some other field (I include law professors and corporate general counsels under the umbrella term of “some other field besides law,” since you can be stupid and work in those jobs).

    This explains a guy (dirtbag) I went to HS with. He went to the directional State U, actually not even that good, got a 3,7 GPA, and ended up at Georgetown. He’s been corporate general counsel for most of his career. About 40 years.

    I get the impression Georgetown is the place to go if you’re a lefty pinhead. And he was.

  90. sayless says:
    @Anon

    Ways of Seeing was the title of a book on the subject. I came across it in the seventies. John Berger based his discussion on the visual arts.

  91. @eah

    UC Merced is possibly the #1 safe school when California students apply for college. It does not help that the central valley is hot, flat, monotonous, and in the middle of nowhere.

    • Replies: @eah
  92. dux.ie says:
    @Buck Turgidson

    From the 5 years self reported university application data from CollegeData.com for UCMerced, it is a reasonable university. Among those early offers data, the average SATeq score is quite reasonable at 1266.55. Wai had a list at PsyToday in 2014 of 1339 US universities and colleges average entrance scores but UCMerced was not included. If the estimated entrance SAT from the sample is correct that would put UCMerced in the 120s rank out of 1339 and put it among the ranks of UniPittsburgh, University of Wisconsin-Madison, University of Texas-Austin, and even slightly higher than University of California-Santa Barbara at SAT1250. UCLA was ranked at 75 with SAT1320. The estimation from the sample might show the progress since 2014.

    As to AA diversity as measured as the diff between max and min SAT entrance score, UCMerced at 650 is much less as Berkeley at 770, Cornell at 840, UCLA at 910, Stanford at 800, NYU at 910. The min accepted SATeq for UCMerced from the sample is 920, compared to 830 at Berkeley, 760 at Cornell, 690 (!) at UCLA, 690 (!) at NYU. UCMerced’s problem might be not able to attract high calibre applicants, but it did not have to scrape the bottom for AA applicants. Rutgers had quite a few perfect SAT1600
    applicants but had to struggle to fill the rest of the class.

    What is the beef NYT has with UCMerced?

    • Replies: @Triumph104
  93. MarkinLA says:
    @International Jew

    A lot of those garbage studies classes utilize multiple guess questions for exams (at least from my days). Why should those professors have to spend time thinking about a students answers and the students sure don’t want to waste time thinking about the class material. This is called a symbiotic relation. The professor gets to cash that big check and have Friday through Monday off and the student gets an easy A that only requires two hours of study before the final exam.

  94. @International Jew

    You bet I repeated the stuff back to her! That’s the stuff you have to know to get a good grade on the papers and tests!
    I will add that a way to become good at debating is to be able to articulate your opponent’s arguments better than they can, knowing their philosophy inside and out. Then, you can deconstruct it, so there is some merit in learning their Marxist arguments (although I must emphasize I don’t agree with them), as opposed to saying, “You’re stupid,” and moving on.
    If butting heads and constantly challenging the professor gets me a C, then I’d happily be a “cuck” and leave with my A.
    I did the same thing when I took an online class during the summer once. It was virtually anonymous and the teacher loved my writing, having no idea I didn’t believe any of the arguments I was putting forth. She thought I was a good little liberal.

    One last note. The most ridiculous thing I read in Women’s Gender Studies was an article by a feminist about how nicknames the military uses for nuclear missiles are more or less “problematic” (annoying word to me) because they refer to men’s body parts. I guess the military should get moving towards making ICBMs look more like a vagina than a penis!

    • Replies: @International Jew
  95. Olorin says:
    @Flip

    The real estate industry is counting on it just as it has counted on white diaspora to supply lucrative new residential and commercial development opportunities for the past 50 years.

    Racism against whites has been a main driver of the FIRE economy.

    • Replies: @Flip
  96. anon[218] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) – – A current Harrisburg School District staff member confirmed there is an internal investigation in the school district regarding grades.
    The staff member, who wished to remain anonymous, spoke with Abc27 Investigator Kendra Nichols.

    Kendra Nichols: “Would you say the Harrisburg School District is in crisis?”

    Staff Member- “Huge. Major. Our students are graduating illiterate, our students are graduating not being able to move on into society, we are not preparing them for the next step. The district themselves are conducting their own internal investigation. I know we were encouraged to pass our students.”

    Kendra Nichols: “When you say, ‘we were encouraged’, who were you encouraged by?”

    Staff Member- “There was an email that went out from our principal encouraging extra credit and extra assignment for our students. In order to keep your job you have to follow certain protocol. If a student does not have a 50 percent, say for example they have a 17 percent, we have to give them a 50 percent on their marking period final grade. We have to give a 50.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  97. anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Is that 25k/year all in (including room & board)?

    Yes, everything considered cost of attendance.

    So which is harder to get into, Cal Poly or UC Merced?

    Cal Poly. The admission rate for the college overall is 29%. The average ACT is 30. For some majors like CS it’s under 10%. UC Merced has an admission rate of 61%, average ACT of 25.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Aardvark
  98. anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @stillCARealist

    When my son visited CalPoly he said it was just too big. He would feel lost in a college that is basically the size of a city… 21k.

    It’s rather small compared to a lot of public universities. When you tour colleges make sure you ask how big the introductory science, math, etc. lectures are. At UCLA you’ll find 400+ size lecture halls, Berkeley 800+, ASU 500+, etc. Morever, Cal Poly’s classes are largely taught by professors, not TAs.

    there was left wing garbage all over the place.

    That’s pretty much every college. There’s less left wing stuff at Cal Poly than a lot of other colleges, the STEM focus at Cal Poly (~30% of the college is engineers) tends to attract apolitical types. It’s the softer majors that have time for SJW nonsense.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  99. anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @gunner29

    I went to a flagship state U. The calc classes were on a curve; the admins and faculty were trying to figure out the best 25% in the freshman class. Top 25% was probably 95th percentile and up in math ability in the general population. So that was about 500 out of the 2K freshmen that took the class.

    I don’t think Cal Poly’s approach is too dissimilar. The grade distribution I saw for the math department gave As to 21% of the students. The 25/75%-ile math ACT score for students in the college of engineering is 29/33 (very similar to Purdue at 29/34 which I would guess is either your school or a peer of your school). The average ACT for engineering applicants is 32 (the 98%-ile) It only has a regional reputation so it’s not widely know but Cal Poly has a highly regarded engineering program, particularly on the west coast.

  100. eah says:
    @Prof. Woland

    #1 safe school when California students apply for college

    In CA, the UC system is, by design, the elite system — it was always said/promised that there would be a place at some UC campus for the top 10% of CA students (w/ massive population growth, mostly via immigration, plus building only one new campus, not sure if that’s true anymore) — the CSU system is for the rest — so while UC Merced probably is (by far I would imagine) the easiest UC school to get into, for other kids who want to go to “college” and get a degree, CSU is less selective, and always has been (by design) — having attended both, I think the quality of undergrad education/instruction at one of the better CSU schools rivals that of any UC campus.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  101. @eah

    My friend Steve started college at CSU Northridge, then transferred to UC San Diego, then graduated from world famous UC Berkeley. He said the quality of instruction went down with each transfer he made up the ladder of prestige.

  102. @anonymous

    Cal Poly SLO is a little like Texas A&M if Texas A&M were ten miles from Pismo Beach and Morro Rock.

    In central California, it’s better to be a few miles inland because the coastline is kind of foggy and clammy and windy while inland a few miles is sunny and mild. So San Luis Obispo is a beloved Central Coast small city even though it’s not quite on the coast.

  103. @anonymous

    Cal Poly Pomona is not bad, but it’s not Cal Poly SLO.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  104. Jack D says:
    @anon

    Our students are graduating illiterate

    Must be the teachers’ fault. I’m sure it’s not the students. It’s just so hard to teach those Asians to read – their parents don’t speak a word of English and write using little hieroglyphics.

    Here are the demographics of the Harrisburg school district:

    64.09% African American
    26.27% Hispanic
    3.45% Caucasian
    5.36% Asian
    0.78% Multi-Racial/Other
    0.05% American Indian

    America is running out of white people.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  105. Flip says:
    @Olorin

    Yes. The white middle class areas of Chicago were rebuilt in the western and southern suburbs.

  106. George says:

    Hey iSteve, I figured it out. Merced, Ca is actually the ancient capital of Aztlán. Which is why they children of Azteca are flocking their, preparing for the reconquest of the pre-ancient homeland.

    “While some legends describe Aztlán as a paradise, the Codex Aubin says that the Aztecs were subject to a tyrannical elite called the Azteca Chicomoztoca. ” Who might the Chicomoztoca be? It’s all beginning to make sense now.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztl%C3%A1n

    Nahuatl legends relate that seven tribes lived in Chicomoztoc, or “the place of the seven caves”.

    Search on: Merced Caves, really creepy google results. Pretty clear the Spanish, as usual, had no idea what they were talking about and Nayarit is where Merced is now located.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayarit

  107. @gunner29

    If they’re not grading on a curve, then it’s nowhere as hard as it could be. Imagine a bunch of Nobel science award winners and give them some mother of all impossible math tests. Then grade it on a curve; some are gonna flunk.

    Please explain this.

    • Replies: @gunner29
  108. @Olorin

    But seriously, the whole game here is federal tax farming.

    My undergraduate alma mater is falling all over themselves to be designated a “Hispanic Serving Institution” which qualifies them for additional federal funding. Funding which will probably be more than sucked up for remedial class offerings

    With 2017 as the qualifying year for Texas Tech, the university is on track to that official designation beginning in 2019, resulting in access to new federal funding of more than $8 to 10 million that may be available after the application period that year.

    https://today.ttu.edu/posts/2017/09/hispanic-serving-institution

    My son was a freshman last year and I noticed in his student profile online that he was somehow designated as “hispanic” even though he has not a drop of hispanic blood nor have we ever claimed that he did. I think someone may be cooking the books to boost the reported number of hispanics. It did answer the question as to why he got a brochure over the summer inviting him to join a special mentoring program. I corrected his designation and now hes not getting any more invites

    http://www.depts.ttu.edu/mentortech/

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  109. gunner29 says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Please explain this

    Grading on a curve is making a test so difficult, that even peeps with 99th percentile ability will be separated into A’s, B’s, C’s and so on. It’s the bell shaped distribution with most, half, getting C’s.

    The bell shape is why it’s called grading on a curve. It’s done so the teacher can identify the best students from the not so good; even among a group of geniuses.

    The opposite is give a relatively easy test to the 99th percentile peeps so they all get A’s. This is what Harvard does, 93% graduate with honors, average grade is an A-.

    Harvard takes the position that their admission process only allows A students in, so if you do the work, you’re gonna get an A. Really bust your ass, A+. Harvard is not interested in finding out where exactly each student ranks compared to the rest of the class.

    I’ve read this is common with expensive private schools. The admins and faculty feel they owe the parents writing the $55K check each year, the confirmation that their discharge is of superior ability.

    So everybody getting A’s makes the check writing easier.

    The opposite are the engineering schools and the flagship state U’s. EVERY test is graded on a curve; the parents are only writing $15K checks, so no mercy on the discharge.

    In addition, this maintains the superior reputation grads from these schools have. Boeing hiring somebody out of MIT or Cal Tech know they’re getting prime beef.

    Steve, about 3 years ago you had a post about elite and non-elite schools and how the elite schools didn’t want to teach any trade skills; go to trade school if you want that. Do you have a link? I’ve done searches but can’t find it.

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  110. gunner29 says:
    @penskefile

    My son was a freshman last year and I noticed in his student profile online that he was somehow designated as “hispanic” even though he has not a drop of hispanic blood nor have we ever claimed that he did. I think someone may be cooking the books to boost the reported number of hispanics

    .

    20+ years ago I was reading about this hispanic chick that had applied to UC Davis and was denied entrance. Her high school adviser couldn’t understand it, she had superior grades, great SAT scores, it didn’t make sense.

    Then the adviser was looking over her application and noticed she hadn’t checked the hispanic box. She did and resubmitted. Got in with no trouble.

    Well this chick did some more digging and found out checking the hispanic box was worth more than having a 4.0 GPA or 1500+ SAT’s!

    This is why Ward Connerly got his referendum together and passed a couple of years later. If you were a white guy or some asian guy, you could walk on water, scholastically, and watch some minority get your spot…..

  111. @Steve Sailer

    The two best places to attend college in California are Cal Poly and UCSB.

  112. Aardvark says:
    @anonymous

    If they want maximum diversity as quickly as possible, simply rank the applicants academically by a combination of their High School GPA and ACT or SAT score and then fulfill the incoming freshman class by working it from the bottom of the list.
    Problem solved.

  113. @whyamihere

    A ‘C’ in an elective outside your major wouldn’t have done you much harm.

    You, on the other hand, have done real harm. By sitting there for a semester and not challenging that instructor, you helped intimidate fellow dissident classmates by making them feel alone. And conversely, you emboldened that instructor and her leftist students by helping them feel that their ideas enjoy wide assent.

    Granted, it would have been a challenge to debate your instructor — who controlled the floor and likely was well prepared for your objections. The most effective tactic for you (any other college students reading this?) is to throw out one-line iStevisms:

    “Does race exist? Do hills exist?”
    “Speaking power to truth”
    “A refugee is often someone who’s hated by the people that know him best”
    “Zeroth Amendment”
    “The sixties were, what, ten-twenty years ago?”
    “But who can remember all the way back 2017?”
    “Fallon Fox gets paid to beat up girls”

    Timing and context are key of course. And even when the lefties won’t realize they’ve been skewered, you’ve sent a silent Bat-signal to any fellow iSteve readers within earshot. I can tell you that the new friendships you make that way are way more satisfying than the old ones you lose.

    And do not ever ever pretend to be a leftist, just to get a girl to like you.

    Stick around and build up your arsenal of iStevisms — for any occasion.

    (Apologies to Steve for any inaccurate quoting.)

  114. @gunner29

    Let me repeat what I think you said.

    Grading on a curve is not using a different grading scheme on Test A, which is relatively easy for the smart guys, but rather a separate Test B which is extremely difficult and which will sort out the smart guys across the Bell curve.

    Thanks for the reply.

  115. @dux.ie

    Your post is pure gibberish.

    From CollegeData, the pre-2016 SAT scores for enrolled freshmen at UC Merced is 516 math, 499 reading, and 492 writing. (Pre-2016 SAT scores list a writing score, post-2016 do not.) The combined math and reading score is 1015.

    A combined 1015 math + reading SAT score would fall on Jonathan Wai’s 2014 list of 1339 college just behind the University of Texas Permian Basin, a Hispanic-serving institution with a 46% Hispanic enrollment.

    816 Pacific Union College 1020
    816 Florida Gulf Coast University (3) 1020
    816 San Jose State University 1020
    816 California State University-Fullerton 1020
    816 Southwestern Christian University (4) 1020
    821 University of Texas of the Permian Basin 1016
    *** UC MERCED ***
    822 Millersville University of Pennsylvania 1015
    822 Eastern Connecticut State University 1015
    822 Worcester State University 1015
    822 Framingham State University 1015
    822 Wingate University 1015
    822 University of Indianapolis 1015
    822 Texas Wesleyan University 1015
    822 Concordia University Texas (4) 1015
    822 University of Maine-Farmington (2) 1015
    822 Bethel College 1015
    832 Northern Illinois University 1010

    https://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg02_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=2046

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/files/attachments/56143/1339-us-colleges-ranked-average-student-brainpower.pdf

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    , @dux.ie
  116. dux.ie says:
    @Triumph104

    You are looking at a single year data which is very sparse while I aggregated over 5 years of data to get a bigger sample size. Still the average for all applicants for class 2022 given by CollegeData.com is SatM+SatErw=1231, compare to my 5 years average SATeq for accepted applicants of 1266.6 . Late applicants and late offers tends to be of lower quality.

    https://www.collegedata.com/cs/admissions/admissions_tracker_result.jhtml?schoolId=2046&classYear=2022

    The recent California campus unrests can influence the number of applicant a lot and might even carried over the next few years, especially after the presidential election. For example the number of early offers in the sample dropped from 30 for class 2020 to 18 for class 2021 (year 2017), the number for class 2022 did not recover to the former level.

    28|UCMerced|2018
    29|UCMerced|2019
    30|UCMerced|2020
    18|UCMerced|2021
    23|UCMerced|2022

    Furthermore, I also coverted the ACT score to SATeq according to the published ACT/SAT Concordance conversion. The quality of applicants with ACT seems to be higher,

    SATeq|N|Class|Uni
    1231.3|8|2018|UCMerced
    1147.5|4|2019|UCMerced
    1264.0|5|2020|UCMerced
    1300.0|4|2021|UCMerced
    1346.3|8|2022|UCMerced

    SATMERW|N|Class|Uni
    1215.0|8|2018|UCMerced
    1137.5|4|2019|UCMerced
    1235.0|4|2020|UCMerced
    1340.0|2|2021|UCMerced
    1311.4|7|2022|UCMerced

    ACT|N|Class|Uni
    24.5|4|2018|UCMerced
    27.0|3|2019|UCMerced
    26.5|2|2020|UCMerced
    28.0|3|2021|UCMerced
    31.0|5|2022|UCMerced

    You just see the tree but cannot see the forest.

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  117. dux.ie says:
    @Triumph104

    You must be joking. Trying to compare University of Texas of the Permian Basin with UCMerced. Nobody bother to evaluate their positions there from CollegeData.com for classes 2022 and 2021. For class 2020 there are only 2 queries, the max Sat1 of which was 450+330+470=1250 out of 2400, or equivalent to SAT2 of 850 out of 1600 according to the concordance table.

    https://www.collegedata.com/cs/admissions/admissions_tracker_result.jhtml?schoolId=679&classYear=2020

    For UCMerced class of 2020 the best SAT was 1340 out of 1600, for class of 2022 it was 1570 (near perfect) out of 1600. Trying to compare SAT2 850 with SAT2 1340 ??

    ha ha ha, HA HA HA.

  118. @dux.ie

    The average SAT score for applicants accepted UC Merced is 1266 because of their Count Me In program. Due to the state’s high Asian-American population and some trickey to get around the state’s affirmative action ban, many bright students get rejected from all of the UCs that they applied to. In a panic, some accept the automatic offer to UC Merced, but almost none enroll.

    Sounds like Merced began sending out email invitations for its “Count Me In” program late last week (~4/6/2018). The invitations go out to the “referral pool,” which is composed of the top 9% of California high school students who were not admitted to any of the UC campuses to which they applied. See the UC system’s Statewide path page for an explanation of how the top 9% is calculated and how the referral pool works. Check out the Count Me In FAQ’s for how the program works (there is no cost to accept the invitation, but all other regular fees apply: SIR deposit, housing deposit, orientation fee, etc.).

    https://askmssun.com/uc-merced-count-me-in/

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  119. dux.ie says:
    @Triumph104

    That explains the sudden surge. That is why I take the average of 5 years data. From the CollegeData.com data I was playing the guess the ethnicity of the applicants game.

    ID|State|Class|Status|SATeq|Uni
    AAA|MI|2022|Applied|1600|Brown
    AAA|MI|2022|Applied|1600|Cornell
    AAA|MI|2022|Applied|1600|Duke
    AAA|MI|2022|Applied|1600|Princeton
    AAA|MI|2022|Applied|1600|Stanford
    AAA|MI|2022|Applied|1600|UChicago
    AAA|MI|2022|Applied|1600|Yale
    AAA|MI|2022|Wait-Listed|1600|Caltech

    BBB|CA|2022|Denied|1520|Berkeley
    BBB|CA|2022|Denied|1520|Cornell
    BBB|CA|2022|Denied|1520|Duke
    BBB|CA|2022|Denied|1520|Harvard
    BBB|CA|2022|Denied|1520|Princeton
    BBB|CA|2022|Denied|1520|Stanford
    BBB|CA|2022|Denied|1520|UChicago
    BBB|CA|2022|Will Attend|1520|UCLA

    CCC|CA|2022|Accepted|1510|Berkeley
    CCC|CA|2022|Accepted|1510|Stanford
    CCC|CA|2022|Accepted|1510|UCLA
    CCC|CA|2022|Accepted|1510|Yale

    DDD|NY|2022|Accepted|1510|Duke
    DDD|NY|2022|Accepted|1510|Harvard
    DDD|NY|2022|Accepted|1510|Yale

    EEE|NY|2021|Accepted|990|Harvard
    EEE|NY|2021|Denied|990|Princeton

    Candidate AAA seems to be over-confident without a plan B. Candidate BBB without a plan C but was lucky. Candidates CCC and DDD rightfully confident about their chances. Candidate EEE from NY was certain that she was a rare catch, did not apply to NYU, SUNYs or CUNYs, all or nothing. Plan B ? What plan B ??

  120. EdwardM says:

    Graduation rates have consistently been lower than at any other campus in the system: 45 percent of freshmen who entered in 2009 had earned a degree four years later, compared with 65 percent at San Diego and 76 percent at Berkeley.

    Those are pretty abysmal graduation rates at Berkeley and UCSD.

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