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iSteve commenter Lot notes:

I’ve been saying that for years, the leftist elites lost control of their pawns because of social media, especially twitter.

In no real way do blacks or the left benefit from the mob-sacking of Roseanne. 80-90% of the people losing financially from killing the show are likely on the left. But the elites couldn’t stop or even contain the twitter-mob.

You saw this too with Damore. He might have just been reprimanded, or quietly told he had three months to find another job, but a bunch of mostly freakish tatted up genderqueer Google employees threatened Google if he wasn’t fired and publicly denounced by management.

Part of the reason Hillary lost is she just looked and talked exactly like the stereotypical humorless HR enforcer of PC. You can picture Bill, or Bernie, or Obama, laughing off a tasteless joke, or telling one themselves to friends. But Hillary gave off many cues of being completely up to date with every PC speech rule and of always noticing and never forgetting any violation. At the convention she choose instead of racial gaffe-prone cool uncle Joe Biden the wimpy Tim Kaine who made sure everyone knew he spoke Rising Brown America’s Official Language. Then she had an angrily self righteous Muslim with a burka-wife shout racist at Trump, following up with that chubby drug cartel moll stunt at the debates to call him sexist because he had opinions about the looks of a beauty pageant contestant.

From National Journal:

Democrats Caught in a Culture-War Trap

Even as economic issues increasingly unite the party, the energy among Democrats is on cultural issues. That’s a long-term threat to their party’s political health.

Josh Kraushaar
@HOTLINEJOSH

Over the weekend, New York Times columnist David Leonhardt wrote a thoughtful column arguing that Democrats have successfully bridged their ideological divisions. In it, he cited the campaigns of centrist Rep. Conor Lamb in western Pennsylvania and proudly progressive gubernatorial nominee Stacey Abrams in Georgia, and made the counterintuitive argument that they’re more alike than they appear.

Leonhardt’s argument was premised on the fact that both are running on populist economist issues. Like most other Democrats, Abrams wants to expand Medicaid coverage in Georgia. Lamb ran against House Speaker Paul Ryan’s entitlement reforms. “When Democrats talk about health care, education, and jobs, they can focus the white working class on the working-class part of its identity rather than the white part,” Leonhardt argues.

But Leonhardt all-too-conveniently sidesteps the most important lesson of our politics in the Trump era: that cultural and racial issues, not economic ones, are the driving forces behind voter preferences.

 
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  2. Anonymous[133] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    I get the feeling that the New York Times wants to encourage more school shootings as part of its anti gun, anti white male platform. This article is almost a religious sanctification of school shootings:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/school-shootings-columbine.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    The piece had three bylines and eight researchers, and it isn’t even news; more of what Jack Shafer calls a “New York Times fake trend story”:

    https://www.poynter.org/news/how-slates-jack-shafer-calls-out-bogus-trend-stories

    In the past the Times has joined other outlets in calling for less coverage:

    Mass Killings May Have Created Contagion, Feeding on Itself

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/science/mass-killings-contagion-copycat.html

    Room for Debate: How Should the News Media Cover Mass Shooters?

    https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/10/09/how-should-the-news-media-cover-mass-shooters

    From the last one:

    There is a growing body of forensic evidence that mass shooters emulate their most infamous predecessors…. there are now clear indications that some individuals who plan and carry out these crimes are influenced by sensational news coverage of prior attacks.

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    • Replies: @J.Ross
    It has to be said that
    -- this is a phenomenon gives every sign of being inorganic, new, and artificial, and many cases are tied strongly to drugs.
    -- reporting on this phenomenon is almost always dishonest or badly motivated.
    -- lightning, cars, soda pop, bees, and sharks are still more dangerous by every standard except media attention.
    -- media interest in this phenomenon (and related disinterest in, say, Chicago violence) is unapologetically political and inescapably hostile to our foundational documents and beliefs.
    -- whatever's happening with the phenomenon itself, almost all legacy media coverage of the phenonenon is an attempt to buffalo the American people into brainlessly accepting a bad decision.
    , @Mishra

    There is a growing body of forensic evidence that mass shooters emulate their most infamous predecessors…. there are now clear indications that some individuals who plan and carry out these crimes are influenced by sensational news coverage of prior attacks.
     
    Much as I dislike agreeing with the NYT, this is a good point (which many others have made too). However, the solution the MSM appear to be implementing is to sweep under the rug those incidents caused by POCs and ramp up publicity when the perps are white males. In this way they help create their reality, you know.
    , @Almost Missouri

    "In the past the Times has joined other outlets in calling for less coverage [of mass shootings]"
     
    Back then they thought that the Dems were gonna own the government.

    Now it turns out that there are still a lot of deplorable Repubs in charge, so all negative events must be amplified and laid at their feet until the Revolution is complete. Only then can the media switch to its other function of amplifying good news and suppressing bad.

    Forward together comrades! Progress!

    , @Anonymous
    This sounds like the left-wing idea that black-on-white crimes should not be publicised in case they lead to lynchings.
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  3. J.Ross says: • Website

    I disagree because I think this is clearly what they (at all levels) want. A witch-hunting mob on ZuckBook is what they think social media is. A lot of the elite of the left don’t come from somewhere else, they come from this, they’ve studied it all their lives.

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  4. NickG says:

    Hillary has the charm and appeal of tertiary syphilis.

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    A bloodless technocrat, Hillary was better suited to being what Andy Kumo was--HUD Sec'y or something like that. In vying for POTUS you could tell by the way she comported herself she was in over her head.
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  5. Anon7 says:

    I don’t agree. The sacking of Roseanne Barr has endless benefits for Democrats and the Left. It shows you why Republican politicians are helpless wussies who refuse to stand behind our President. The Left works like this: first, the line you must not cross is constantly moving, and they’re the ones who define it. At any moment, the line might move and BANG your career is over. Better to stay way back of the line, or better, say nothing and hope the Left doesn’t see you. Imagine it: at any time, your entire career could be trashed based on ONE sentence. No apologies accepted, no do-overs, no forgiveness, no redemption.

    That’s power.

    The best way for us to attack the Democrats is to force them to the hard Left. Make sure that every citizen knows the Democratic strategy, which is to strip citizens of their rights and entitlements. There have been about 40 million abortions of American children since legalization. In the same time period about 40 million legal foreign replacements have been brought in, many of them illiterate, unskilled welfare recipients: 80% of them vote Democrat. When amnesty is declared, 30-40 million unemployables will emerge from the shadows, demanding their share of what you had hoped to receive in Social Security and Medicare. Guess how they’ll vote.

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    What color is the sky in your world, space man?

    This just entrenches the Rust Belt and pushes normal Americans further towards Trump. Do you think the coastal poles just live in a bubble?
    , @Anon
    The majority of those children who were aborted were black and brown.
    Legal abortion free to welfare women is the only good thing that has happened to Whites since the school desegregation decision on 1956.

    Anyway, there were more abortions before legalization than after legalization.

    You can’t be pro White and anti abortion.
    , @AndrewR
    Would you really prefer that blacks were 20% of the population? Legal, subsidized abortion is a great thing, at least in a country with a large, disproportionately black underclass. Only people who value their fairy tales over the well-being of their society can disagree.
    , @Jack D
    Abortion is not the problem for the reason that others point out. Instead of immigrants who vote 80% Democrat (and there is the potential for them to shift after a few generations) you have blacks who vote 95% Democrat forever. The real problem is that which causes intelligent white women not to have any kids or maybe squeeze out 1 when they are 35. This is highly dysgenic and (combined with Latino immigration) will lead (is already leading) to the stupidification of America. Precisely the people who should be having kids aren't and vice versa.
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  6. Berty says:

    Hillary lost because Trump pretended that he cared about immigration.

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    Hillary lost because Trump pretended that he cared about immigration.
     
    Excellent analysis.

    I voted for Hillary, because I knew people who had done business with Trump, and I knew he was a con man. It is painful to see Ann Coulter suddenly realize she was HAD by a con man. But then, she got a lot of money out of believing Trump, so I can see how that might affect her judgment.

    Hm. Trump suddenly decides to go easy on China on trade matters when Ivanka gets thousands of new Chinese trademarks. Interesting coincidence. He even saves a company deemed to be a national security threat to the US.

    Hillary also lost because Trump pretended he cared about trade. After the election, Bernie Sanders offered to work with Trump to put together some more protectionist trade policies.

    **crickets**

    Oh, and those new tarrifs? How did that suddenly disappear?

    Sorry, but I can't see a dime's worth of difference between Trump and Jeb Bush.

    It truly pains me to say that. I knew Trump was a con man, but for the benefit of this country, I hoped he really would act as a nationalist rather than a Koch-brothers globalist.
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  7. CCZ says:

    The next time that you visit a Starbucks to just use the restroom, sit at a table and read a book or newspaper, not purchase anything, and avail yourself of the free air conditioning (sounds like a fun thing to do on a hot day), ask any of the employees these official Starbucks Human Resources sensitivity training questions (all VERY relevant to their asking you if you wish to buy something or dispensing your food or beverage, should you feel their pain and decide to purchase something).

    When was:

    1.The first time you noticed your racial identity.

    2.The first time you noticed how your race affected your beauty standards.

    3.The first time you felt your accent impacted people’s perception of your intelligence or competence.

    4.The first time you altered your communication style (dialed it up or down) to avoid playing into stereotypes.

    5.The first time you had a friend of a different race who regularly visited your home.

    6.The first time you felt distracted at work because of external events related to race.

    7.The first time you had a senior role model in your organization with a similar racial identity as your own.

    8.The first time you went to work with your natural hair without comments or questions from others.

    9.The first time you felt your race affected your ability to build a rapport with your manager.

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    When I was a kid I would depict myself in drawings as an East Asian with eyeglasses. I still hate my appearance now but it's because I'm short and fat.
    , @Anonymous
    I like how those questions work. Give the "unoppressed" answer and you're admitting you're privileged. Give the "oppressed" spiel and, see, you experience some of the struggles LGBTQ people of color face every day, so now you can't object to the rest of the program to abolish straight white male privilege.
    , @Jack D
    Many of these questions have an implicitly feminine spin - what man gives a damn about how his hair looks or "beauty standards"? What % of Starbucks workforce is female? If it is more that 50%, why are they discriminating against men in their hiring practices?
    , @fitzGetty
    . . . and — BRING A PICNIC ...
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  8. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    OT

    I get the feeling that the New York Times wants to encourage more school shootings as part of its anti gun, anti white male platform. This article is almost a religious sanctification of school shootings:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/school-shootings-columbine.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    The piece had three bylines and eight researchers, and it isn't even news; more of what Jack Shafer calls a "New York Times fake trend story":

    https://www.poynter.org/news/how-slates-jack-shafer-calls-out-bogus-trend-stories

    In the past the Times has joined other outlets in calling for less coverage:

    Mass Killings May Have Created Contagion, Feeding on Itself
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/science/mass-killings-contagion-copycat.html

    Room for Debate: How Should the News Media Cover Mass Shooters?
    https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/10/09/how-should-the-news-media-cover-mass-shooters

    From the last one:

    There is a growing body of forensic evidence that mass shooters emulate their most infamous predecessors.... there are now clear indications that some individuals who plan and carry out these crimes are influenced by sensational news coverage of prior attacks.
     

    It has to be said that
    – this is a phenomenon gives every sign of being inorganic, new, and artificial, and many cases are tied strongly to drugs.
    – reporting on this phenomenon is almost always dishonest or badly motivated.
    – lightning, cars, soda pop, bees, and sharks are still more dangerous by every standard except media attention.
    – media interest in this phenomenon (and related disinterest in, say, Chicago violence) is unapologetically political and inescapably hostile to our foundational documents and beliefs.
    – whatever’s happening with the phenomenon itself, almost all legacy media coverage of the phenonenon is an attempt to buffalo the American people into brainlessly accepting a bad decision.

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  9. J.Ross says: • Website
    @CCZ
    The next time that you visit a Starbucks to just use the restroom, sit at a table and read a book or newspaper, not purchase anything, and avail yourself of the free air conditioning (sounds like a fun thing to do on a hot day), ask any of the employees these official Starbucks Human Resources sensitivity training questions (all VERY relevant to their asking you if you wish to buy something or dispensing your food or beverage, should you feel their pain and decide to purchase something).

    When was:

    1.The first time you noticed your racial identity.

    2.The first time you noticed how your race affected your beauty standards.

    3.The first time you felt your accent impacted people’s perception of your intelligence or competence.

    4.The first time you altered your communication style (dialed it up or down) to avoid playing into stereotypes.

    5.The first time you had a friend of a different race who regularly visited your home.

    6.The first time you felt distracted at work because of external events related to race.

    7.The first time you had a senior role model in your organization with a similar racial identity as your own.

    8.The first time you went to work with your natural hair without comments or questions from others.

    9.The first time you felt your race affected your ability to build a rapport with your manager.

    When I was a kid I would depict myself in drawings as an East Asian with eyeglasses. I still hate my appearance now but it’s because I’m short and fat.

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  10. Anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @CCZ
    The next time that you visit a Starbucks to just use the restroom, sit at a table and read a book or newspaper, not purchase anything, and avail yourself of the free air conditioning (sounds like a fun thing to do on a hot day), ask any of the employees these official Starbucks Human Resources sensitivity training questions (all VERY relevant to their asking you if you wish to buy something or dispensing your food or beverage, should you feel their pain and decide to purchase something).

    When was:

    1.The first time you noticed your racial identity.

    2.The first time you noticed how your race affected your beauty standards.

    3.The first time you felt your accent impacted people’s perception of your intelligence or competence.

    4.The first time you altered your communication style (dialed it up or down) to avoid playing into stereotypes.

    5.The first time you had a friend of a different race who regularly visited your home.

    6.The first time you felt distracted at work because of external events related to race.

    7.The first time you had a senior role model in your organization with a similar racial identity as your own.

    8.The first time you went to work with your natural hair without comments or questions from others.

    9.The first time you felt your race affected your ability to build a rapport with your manager.

    I like how those questions work. Give the “unoppressed” answer and you’re admitting you’re privileged. Give the “oppressed” spiel and, see, you experience some of the struggles LGBTQ people of color face every day, so now you can’t object to the rest of the program to abolish straight white male privilege.

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    I like how those questions work.
     
    Yes; reminds me of the classic, "are you still beating your wife?"

    They come with a built in premise.

    Let's just add more:

    10. When's the first time you noticed that you make mistakes and thus shouldn't be so sure of anything you do?

    11. When's the first time you noticed racial differences in people and immediately realized that you just made a massive mistake that has forever tainted you and now you need to embrace a political regime that will eliminate your race from the planet?
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  11. newrouter says:

    “In it, he cited the campaigns of centrist Rep. Conor Lamb in western Pennsylvania and proudly progressive gubernatorial nominee Stacey Abrams in Georgia,”

    Just wait for election night 11/2018. More fun than 2016!

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  12. newrouter says:

    If peeps don’t like you, you don’t get elected.

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  13. newrouter says:

    The problem baracky created is that peeps don’t like being browbeaten into “submission”(Islam).

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  14. Dissident says:

    OT (but not entirely):
    From Manhattan’s infamous Upper West Side:
    Graffiti Outside Local Playground Says ‘Kill Jews’

    This is the neighborhood known for perennial Diversity for thee but not for me! drama/ race-denialist gymnastics, particularly with regard to local public school demographics. Note the spectacles of both exhibited in the comments. ( As noted by both Steve Sailer as well as John Derbyshire, the ongoing public school drama was recently in the news when the NYC Schools Chancellor tweeted a statement that many found offensive about the parents opposing the latest plan to diversify their children’s schools.)

    Quite relevant, as well, is an email I sent to the site where the story appears, West Side Rag, the essential portion of which I will now quote.

    The comment thread for this story contains a number of references to the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). These include at least one comment that links-to and quotes said organization’s web site, presenting it as an authoritative source for a purported increase in “hate crime” and “hate group” activity, etc.

    In response to said references, I submitted a comment this morning (May 30) that consisted of a compilation I had made of several, carefully selected links to serious, substantive criticisms and exposés of the organization-in-question, the SPLC, along with brief representative quotes for each. The sources I cited: Tablet, Harper’s, The Washington Post and The Nation, are all, as I am sure you would acknowledge, widely respected. It would probably be superfluous to note that none of them would be considered right-wing, much less “racist”, “White Supremacist”, anti-Semitic or otherwise beyond-the-pale.

    In fairness, it is still too early to conclude that the referenced comment of mine was deliberately rejected.

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    Who sends their kids to public schools, particularly in NYC which has hundreds of private and religious schools far superior to the public school system? If the school’s
    not be in the neighborhood some have their own school buses. Others have well organized car pools.

    Life is complicated enough, why make problems?
    , @Anon
    I wonder who did the graffiti.

    I can always tell when the Israeli ADL AIPAC fundraisers are coming to town by the hysterical reporting of anti Semitic graffiti and cemetery vandalism that suddenly appear.
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  15. Stogumber says:

    Wasn’t it said before that Nixon or Reagan won the vote because Hollywood and other Liberals were so busy to demean the white working class rednecks (and Nixon or Reagan played on that)? This is a class and ethnic struggle whose roots are rather deep in the ground.

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  16. @Anon7
    I don’t agree. The sacking of Roseanne Barr has endless benefits for Democrats and the Left. It shows you why Republican politicians are helpless wussies who refuse to stand behind our President. The Left works like this: first, the line you must not cross is constantly moving, and they’re the ones who define it. At any moment, the line might move and BANG your career is over. Better to stay way back of the line, or better, say nothing and hope the Left doesn’t see you. Imagine it: at any time, your entire career could be trashed based on ONE sentence. No apologies accepted, no do-overs, no forgiveness, no redemption.

    That’s power.

    The best way for us to attack the Democrats is to force them to the hard Left. Make sure that every citizen knows the Democratic strategy, which is to strip citizens of their rights and entitlements. There have been about 40 million abortions of American children since legalization. In the same time period about 40 million legal foreign replacements have been brought in, many of them illiterate, unskilled welfare recipients: 80% of them vote Democrat. When amnesty is declared, 30-40 million unemployables will emerge from the shadows, demanding their share of what you had hoped to receive in Social Security and Medicare. Guess how they’ll vote.

    What color is the sky in your world, space man?

    This just entrenches the Rust Belt and pushes normal Americans further towards Trump. Do you think the coastal poles just live in a bubble?

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    Pushing normal Americans towards Trump? Yes, I hope so.
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  17. If everyone hates you, you’re gonna have a difficult time winning a national election.

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  18. Interesting, and I partially agree. I think Hillary mostly lost because:

    1) As said, she has the charisma of a HR hag,

    2) People were tired of Obama’s policies after eight years of mediocre administration and constant haranguing, and

    3) Her campaign insulted the voters with her endless ranting, and people voted out of spite. I was convinced at the time that Trump was too unconventional to win, until Hillary called his voters a “basket of deplorables”. I still can’t explain why exactly, but the moment I read that I had a sudden feeling that Trump had a chance of being elected.

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    I thought Bush 1 would beat Clinton, (although I knew Dole was a guaranteed loser), I was sure Kerry would bet Bush II, and I thought Romney would beat Obama. So, much as I detested The Rod, I figured she was going to win. I am wrong a lot.

    But then something happened. It took me about five minutes after seeing one event, when I became absolutely convinced Trump, as unlikely as it seemed, would beat Clinton. People said I was wrong before and would be wrong again, but this time I never doubted myself.

    On Election Night 2016, I was vindicated.

    What was this, ahem, seminal event??

    It was when Madonna stepped up to the mic, and offered to, as certain New England Patriots put it, step up to the mic.

    I figured, and still do, that this was not a spontaneous riff of attempted humor on her part but that it was a carefully orchestrated move. And it was a desperate one indeed. Whether she just hated Trump personally for some slight, like her onetime heroine Debbie Harry, or whether someone made some deal with her to do it (it would have been an important someone, as she's a billionairess), either way it was a Hail Mary pass. Say what you want about her, she's still an Italian Catholic girl, and I think her father is still alive: she had to have second thoughts about this. She, or her handlers, wanted Clinton in there real bad. And were not optimistic.

    Of course, it did more harm than good, although I'm certain it wasn't the decisive move in The Rod's defeat.

    Still: it will remain in my mind forever as the moment Trump had victory in the bag.
    , @Arclight
    Good points...a lot of this comes down to the more conventional "who would you rather have a beer with" test of political candidates. Even a lot of dyed in the wool Democrats found her uninspiring and pedantic, the type of person you'd hate to be stuck in an elevator with. I have a lot of friends who are hard core Democrats and although there were a few childless single women who seemed excited about her candidacy, no one else was.

    I also have to admit that I enjoyed all of the weeping and rending of garments after her loss - a lot of Hillary voters thought that with Obama political history was basically over and the left had total control of the future in this country, and it's obvious with things like the video of Ben Rhodes making the rounds (and the reaction of the media on election night) they all shared this assumption as well. The GOP had better not take it for granted that there are no sure things in politics.
    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "I still can’t explain why exactly, but the moment I read that I had a sudden feeling that Trump had a chance of being elected."

    The moment I heard HR Clinton screech, "Why am I not up by 50 points?!?!?!!!" I thought Trump might very well triumph.

    But I thought from the beginning the White Genocide Party erred in nominating Old Lady Thunderbiscuits.
    , @ben tillman

    I was convinced at the time that Trump was too unconventional to win, until Hillary called his voters a “basket of deplorables”. I still can’t explain why exactly, but the moment I read that I had a sudden feeling that Trump had a chance of being elected.
     
    I agree with Steve that the murder of all those cops in Dallas put Trump over the top.
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  19. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    There’s a clip in the tweet I quote below where Valerie Jarrett justifies her zero-tolerance policy toward Roseanne’s joke — essentially, it doesn’t bother her, but it might hurt the feelings of blacks who aren’t as connected as her.

    And, apparently, the executive who axed the show was a black woman.

    A question raised by this is whether a taboo against mocking a group actually helps that group. Is conditioning African Americans to be more touchy than they already are a good thing? Is low self-esteem such a problem among them that this is necessary?

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    If someone who was widely read on twitter said I was an ape I’d be pretty mad too.

    What’s interesting about her father is that although he was a member of the communist party he was employed by the State Department during the height of the Cold War.

    And, he was sent to Iran when about 1/4 of the country was still occupied by Russia due to its invasion during WW2

    Hmmmmm still think Senator McCarthy was wrong?

    Let’s spread a rumor that she’s really White, just another Rachel Dolzeal
    , @CCZ
    "And, apparently, the executive who axed the show was a black woman."

    And "an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important."

    "But it was striking that it was Ms. Dungey and not one of her superiors — and not a network spokesman or spokeswoman, to whom such statements are often attributed — who condemned Ms. Barr and declared the end of “Roseanne.” Ms. Dungey, 49, became an instant celebrity, her name trending on Twitter as people rushed to express gratitude for her stand and holding her up as an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/business/media/channing-dungey-roseanne.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    https://twitter.com/seankent/status/1001523548937170944?tfw_site=nytimes&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F05%2F29%2Fbusiness%2Fmedia%2Fchanning-dungey-roseanne.html
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  20. Mishra says:
    @Anonymous
    OT

    I get the feeling that the New York Times wants to encourage more school shootings as part of its anti gun, anti white male platform. This article is almost a religious sanctification of school shootings:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/school-shootings-columbine.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    The piece had three bylines and eight researchers, and it isn't even news; more of what Jack Shafer calls a "New York Times fake trend story":

    https://www.poynter.org/news/how-slates-jack-shafer-calls-out-bogus-trend-stories

    In the past the Times has joined other outlets in calling for less coverage:

    Mass Killings May Have Created Contagion, Feeding on Itself
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/science/mass-killings-contagion-copycat.html

    Room for Debate: How Should the News Media Cover Mass Shooters?
    https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/10/09/how-should-the-news-media-cover-mass-shooters

    From the last one:

    There is a growing body of forensic evidence that mass shooters emulate their most infamous predecessors.... there are now clear indications that some individuals who plan and carry out these crimes are influenced by sensational news coverage of prior attacks.
     

    There is a growing body of forensic evidence that mass shooters emulate their most infamous predecessors…. there are now clear indications that some individuals who plan and carry out these crimes are influenced by sensational news coverage of prior attacks.

    Much as I dislike agreeing with the NYT, this is a good point (which many others have made too). However, the solution the MSM appear to be implementing is to sweep under the rug those incidents caused by POCs and ramp up publicity when the perps are white males. In this way they help create their reality, you know.

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    In this way they help create their reality, you know.
     
    Which is their whole damn raison d'être.
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  21. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    The White working class doesn’t want medicaid . We want decently paid jobs and we don’t want to be laid off so management t can hire Hispanic Indian or Asians to replace us.

    I might help if every employer in the country weren’t ferociously monitored by state and federal government to ensure the employers employ only non Whites.

    Pass a law that employers shall not hire Whites, enforce it with court orders, hire tens of thousands of enforcers at every level of government and then wonder why so many Whites are unemployed.

    The 50 year anniversary of the abomination the affirmative action act is this year. Think what the condition of Whites will be on the 100 year anniversary of the affirmative action act.

    We’ll probably have about 900 million people living in the United States by then. And we’ll live like the Chinese, 25 people in a small 3 bedroom house . And there will be hordes of homeless.

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  22. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    There's a clip in the tweet I quote below where Valerie Jarrett justifies her zero-tolerance policy toward Roseanne's joke -- essentially, it doesn't bother her, but it might hurt the feelings of blacks who aren't as connected as her.

    And, apparently, the executive who axed the show was a black woman.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1001612162677268480

    A question raised by this is whether a taboo against mocking a group actually helps that group. Is conditioning African Americans to be more touchy than they already are a good thing? Is low self-esteem such a problem among them that this is necessary?

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1001618548903604224

    If someone who was widely read on twitter said I was an ape I’d be pretty mad too.

    What’s interesting about her father is that although he was a member of the communist party he was employed by the State Department during the height of the Cold War.

    And, he was sent to Iran when about 1/4 of the country was still occupied by Russia due to its invasion during WW2

    Hmmmmm still think Senator McCarthy was wrong?

    Let’s spread a rumor that she’s really White, just another Rachel Dolzeal

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    Roseanne didn't double down. She expressed apparently-sincere regret. The gracious thing for Jarrett to have done would have been to accept the apology, say she didn't want the show to be cancelled on her account, and then say "let's make this a teaching moment." But Jarrett is a powerful person and she didn't get that way through graciousness.
    , @ScarletNumber

    If someone who was widely read on twitter said I was an ape I’d be pretty mad too.
     
    Mad enough to kidnap a woman and climb the Empire State Building?
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  23. El Dato says:

    RT is great in reporting on random Twitterstorms. I don’t even know the people involved. It’s spasmic cardboards people talking to themselves. Frankly surreal.

    US-based journalist wishes death on NHL star Ovechkin & ‘all Putin fans’

    ‘Get that gun off his leg’: Piers Morgan attacks Raheem Sterling’s M16 tattoo

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  24. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon7
    I don’t agree. The sacking of Roseanne Barr has endless benefits for Democrats and the Left. It shows you why Republican politicians are helpless wussies who refuse to stand behind our President. The Left works like this: first, the line you must not cross is constantly moving, and they’re the ones who define it. At any moment, the line might move and BANG your career is over. Better to stay way back of the line, or better, say nothing and hope the Left doesn’t see you. Imagine it: at any time, your entire career could be trashed based on ONE sentence. No apologies accepted, no do-overs, no forgiveness, no redemption.

    That’s power.

    The best way for us to attack the Democrats is to force them to the hard Left. Make sure that every citizen knows the Democratic strategy, which is to strip citizens of their rights and entitlements. There have been about 40 million abortions of American children since legalization. In the same time period about 40 million legal foreign replacements have been brought in, many of them illiterate, unskilled welfare recipients: 80% of them vote Democrat. When amnesty is declared, 30-40 million unemployables will emerge from the shadows, demanding their share of what you had hoped to receive in Social Security and Medicare. Guess how they’ll vote.

    The majority of those children who were aborted were black and brown.
    Legal abortion free to welfare women is the only good thing that has happened to Whites since the school desegregation decision on 1956.

    Anyway, there were more abortions before legalization than after legalization.

    You can’t be pro White and anti abortion.

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    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Joke: I'm pro-life!
    Broke: I'm pro-choice!
    Woke: What race is it?
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  25. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dissident
    OT (but not entirely):
    From Manhattan's infamous Upper West Side:
    Graffiti Outside Local Playground Says ‘Kill Jews’

    This is the neighborhood known for perennial Diversity for thee but not for me! drama/ race-denialist gymnastics, particularly with regard to local public school demographics. Note the spectacles of both exhibited in the comments. ( As noted by both Steve Sailer as well as John Derbyshire, the ongoing public school drama was recently in the news when the NYC Schools Chancellor tweeted a statement that many found offensive about the parents opposing the latest plan to diversify their children's schools.)

    Quite relevant, as well, is an email I sent to the site where the story appears, West Side Rag, the essential portion of which I will now quote.

    The comment thread for this story contains a number of references to the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). These include at least one comment that links-to and quotes said organization's web site, presenting it as an authoritative source for a purported increase in "hate crime" and "hate group" activity, etc.

    In response to said references, I submitted a comment this morning (May 30) that consisted of a compilation I had made of several, carefully selected links to serious, substantive criticisms and exposés of the organization-in-question, the SPLC, along with brief representative quotes for each. The sources I cited: Tablet, Harper's, The Washington Post and The Nation, are all, as I am sure you would acknowledge, widely respected. It would probably be superfluous to note that none of them would be considered right-wing, much less "racist", "White Supremacist", anti-Semitic or otherwise beyond-the-pale.
     
    In fairness, it is still too early to conclude that the referenced comment of mine was deliberately rejected.

    Who sends their kids to public schools, particularly in NYC which has hundreds of private and religious schools far superior to the public school system? If the school’s
    not be in the neighborhood some have their own school buses. Others have well organized car pools.

    Life is complicated enough, why make problems?

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    Many schools in upscale areas such as park slope the east side and upper west side have been hijacked once a critical mass of convened parents form. They form powerful PTAs that the bureaucracy respect.

    Then there are the selective high schools many of their kids qualify for
    , @Jack D
    There are middle class people on the UWS (high income by normal standards but middle by NYC standards) who make just enough that they can afford an apartment in that neighborhood but not enough so that they have an extra $50k per kid per year to spend on private school. Also given the amount of taxes these folks are paying (NYC has all SORTS of taxes) why shouldn't they be able to send their kids to a decent public school?
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  26. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dissident
    OT (but not entirely):
    From Manhattan's infamous Upper West Side:
    Graffiti Outside Local Playground Says ‘Kill Jews’

    This is the neighborhood known for perennial Diversity for thee but not for me! drama/ race-denialist gymnastics, particularly with regard to local public school demographics. Note the spectacles of both exhibited in the comments. ( As noted by both Steve Sailer as well as John Derbyshire, the ongoing public school drama was recently in the news when the NYC Schools Chancellor tweeted a statement that many found offensive about the parents opposing the latest plan to diversify their children's schools.)

    Quite relevant, as well, is an email I sent to the site where the story appears, West Side Rag, the essential portion of which I will now quote.

    The comment thread for this story contains a number of references to the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). These include at least one comment that links-to and quotes said organization's web site, presenting it as an authoritative source for a purported increase in "hate crime" and "hate group" activity, etc.

    In response to said references, I submitted a comment this morning (May 30) that consisted of a compilation I had made of several, carefully selected links to serious, substantive criticisms and exposés of the organization-in-question, the SPLC, along with brief representative quotes for each. The sources I cited: Tablet, Harper's, The Washington Post and The Nation, are all, as I am sure you would acknowledge, widely respected. It would probably be superfluous to note that none of them would be considered right-wing, much less "racist", "White Supremacist", anti-Semitic or otherwise beyond-the-pale.
     
    In fairness, it is still too early to conclude that the referenced comment of mine was deliberately rejected.

    I wonder who did the graffiti.

    I can always tell when the Israeli ADL AIPAC fundraisers are coming to town by the hysterical reporting of anti Semitic graffiti and cemetery vandalism that suddenly appear.

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  27. Why Hillary Lost, Part 313: The NYT reports that

    Riding in a motorcade in Lima, Peru, shortly after the 2016 election, President Barack Obama was struggling to understand Donald J. Trump’s victory.

    “What if we were wrong?” he asked aides riding with him in the armored presidential limousine.

    He had read a column asserting that liberals had forgotten how important identity was to people and had promoted an empty cosmopolitan globalism that made many feel left behind. “Maybe we pushed too far,” Mr. Obama said. “Maybe people just want to fall back into their tribe.”

    That line about how “liberals had forgotten how important identity was to people” is priceless.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/politics/obama-reaction-trump-election-benjamin-rhodes.html

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    Thanks.
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  28. CCZ says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    There's a clip in the tweet I quote below where Valerie Jarrett justifies her zero-tolerance policy toward Roseanne's joke -- essentially, it doesn't bother her, but it might hurt the feelings of blacks who aren't as connected as her.

    And, apparently, the executive who axed the show was a black woman.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1001612162677268480

    A question raised by this is whether a taboo against mocking a group actually helps that group. Is conditioning African Americans to be more touchy than they already are a good thing? Is low self-esteem such a problem among them that this is necessary?

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1001618548903604224

    “And, apparently, the executive who axed the show was a black woman.”

    And “an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important.”

    “But it was striking that it was Ms. Dungey and not one of her superiors — and not a network spokesman or spokeswoman, to whom such statements are often attributed — who condemned Ms. Barr and declared the end of “Roseanne.” Ms. Dungey, 49, became an instant celebrity, her name trending on Twitter as people rushed to express gratitude for her stand and holding her up as an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/business/media/channing-dungey-roseanne.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

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    This is why we NEED diversity. So that whites are not allowed to be racist

    I would trust anyone, any color or Gender over a rich white man with power.
    , @AndrewR

    Representation is important so that executives of color can cancel the most popular sitcom on TV, putting dozens of people, some of whom are also of color, out of work based on one tweet for which the offender profusely apologized. Then soy-addled white "comedians" like me can virtue signal about it to show what moral people we are. Yay diversity!
     
    , @Ed
    Evidently ABC is last place in among network TV broadcasters. Ironically Roseanne probably saved her job coming and going.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/business/media/working-on-roseanne-show.html


    Still, the network desperately needed a hit, perhaps a reason it was willing to let some of Ms. Barr’s more outlandish statements go. “Roseanne,” along with the rookie drama “The Good Doctor,” has helped put the network on better footing, though it will finish the 2017-18 TV season in last place for the third straight year.
     
    , @donut
    She ugly .
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  29. @Anonymous Bosch
    Why Hillary Lost, Part 313: The NYT reports that

    Riding in a motorcade in Lima, Peru, shortly after the 2016 election, President Barack Obama was struggling to understand Donald J. Trump’s victory.

    “What if we were wrong?” he asked aides riding with him in the armored presidential limousine.

    He had read a column asserting that liberals had forgotten how important identity was to people and had promoted an empty cosmopolitan globalism that made many feel left behind. “Maybe we pushed too far,” Mr. Obama said. “Maybe people just want to fall back into their tribe.”
     
    That line about how "liberals had forgotten how important identity was to people" is priceless.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/politics/obama-reaction-trump-election-benjamin-rhodes.html

    Thanks.

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  30. Tiny Duck says:

    Maybe whites should try…..not being racist

    Just a thought

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    Maybe Tiny Duck should try...not being anatine.

    Just a thought.
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  31. Anonymous[506] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    Interesting, and I partially agree. I think Hillary mostly lost because:

    1) As said, she has the charisma of a HR hag,

    2) People were tired of Obama's policies after eight years of mediocre administration and constant haranguing, and

    3) Her campaign insulted the voters with her endless ranting, and people voted out of spite. I was convinced at the time that Trump was too unconventional to win, until Hillary called his voters a "basket of deplorables". I still can't explain why exactly, but the moment I read that I had a sudden feeling that Trump had a chance of being elected.

    I thought Bush 1 would beat Clinton, (although I knew Dole was a guaranteed loser), I was sure Kerry would bet Bush II, and I thought Romney would beat Obama. So, much as I detested The Rod, I figured she was going to win. I am wrong a lot.

    But then something happened. It took me about five minutes after seeing one event, when I became absolutely convinced Trump, as unlikely as it seemed, would beat Clinton. People said I was wrong before and would be wrong again, but this time I never doubted myself.

    On Election Night 2016, I was vindicated.

    What was this, ahem, seminal event??

    It was when Madonna stepped up to the mic, and offered to, as certain New England Patriots put it, step up to the mic.

    I figured, and still do, that this was not a spontaneous riff of attempted humor on her part but that it was a carefully orchestrated move. And it was a desperate one indeed. Whether she just hated Trump personally for some slight, like her onetime heroine Debbie Harry, or whether someone made some deal with her to do it (it would have been an important someone, as she’s a billionairess), either way it was a Hail Mary pass. Say what you want about her, she’s still an Italian Catholic girl, and I think her father is still alive: she had to have second thoughts about this. She, or her handlers, wanted Clinton in there real bad. And were not optimistic.

    Of course, it did more harm than good, although I’m certain it wasn’t the decisive move in The Rod’s defeat.

    Still: it will remain in my mind forever as the moment Trump had victory in the bag.

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    There was a different moment when I became more certain that Trump just might win...and that was when the police officers were gunned down in Dallas. I figured the average citizen would be rightly sickened by this and by the Dems' reaction to it; i.e., when they invited the mothers of felons on-stage.

    However, I was wrong about Romney. I knew he didn't fire up the Republican base, but, for the life of me, I still can't see why any white person of moderate political beliefs, whether Left or Right, would have voted for Obama over Romney. As I've mentioned to more than one person -- we nominated a Boy Scout, and the Left turned him into an SOB. So this time, we gave them the real thing.

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  32. Tiny Duck says:
    @CCZ
    "And, apparently, the executive who axed the show was a black woman."

    And "an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important."

    "But it was striking that it was Ms. Dungey and not one of her superiors — and not a network spokesman or spokeswoman, to whom such statements are often attributed — who condemned Ms. Barr and declared the end of “Roseanne.” Ms. Dungey, 49, became an instant celebrity, her name trending on Twitter as people rushed to express gratitude for her stand and holding her up as an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/business/media/channing-dungey-roseanne.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    https://twitter.com/seankent/status/1001523548937170944?tfw_site=nytimes&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F05%2F29%2Fbusiness%2Fmedia%2Fchanning-dungey-roseanne.html

    This is why we NEED diversity. So that whites are not allowed to be racist

    I would trust anyone, any color or Gender over a rich white man with power.

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    Then why don't you emigrate to sub-Saharan Africa?
    , @Joe Magarac

    This is why we NEED diversity. So that whites are not allowed to be racist
     
    This is too funny to make me angry.

    The more "diversity", the more"racist" White folks get. ;)
    , @Clyde
    Doesn't your mentor Lenopid Pitz owe you a right good Rogering? And what happened to your endorsement of the verysmartbrothas?
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  33. “she just looked and talked exactly like the stereotypical humorless HR enforcer of PC”

    Talking of which, look who’s in charge of law and order in Wolverhampton, UK, latest scene of ‘youths’ stabbing ‘teens’ and formerly the constituency of one J. Enoch Powell.

    I know physiognomy ain’t everything, but will the knife boys be very afraid?

    “Ch Supt Jayne Meir, in charge of police in the city of Wolverhampton, said she wanted the cycle of violence to stop.

    “This isn’t unique to Wolverhampton and unfortunately it’s not unique to the West Midlands, it’s happening in cities across the country and we need it to stop,” she said.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-44303296

    (trying to paste the picture of Ms Meir – I see the img html label is verboten)

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    Things have changed since the days of Sergeant "Scarface" Alf Foster of the Greater Manchester Police.

    https://i.imgur.com/uZk2jfe.jpg

    , @Dan Hayes
    YetAnotherAnon:

    For a real lack of visual intimidation check out the visage of Ms Cressida Dick, Commissioner of Metropolitan Police Service in London.
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  34. AndrewR says:
    @Anon7
    I don’t agree. The sacking of Roseanne Barr has endless benefits for Democrats and the Left. It shows you why Republican politicians are helpless wussies who refuse to stand behind our President. The Left works like this: first, the line you must not cross is constantly moving, and they’re the ones who define it. At any moment, the line might move and BANG your career is over. Better to stay way back of the line, or better, say nothing and hope the Left doesn’t see you. Imagine it: at any time, your entire career could be trashed based on ONE sentence. No apologies accepted, no do-overs, no forgiveness, no redemption.

    That’s power.

    The best way for us to attack the Democrats is to force them to the hard Left. Make sure that every citizen knows the Democratic strategy, which is to strip citizens of their rights and entitlements. There have been about 40 million abortions of American children since legalization. In the same time period about 40 million legal foreign replacements have been brought in, many of them illiterate, unskilled welfare recipients: 80% of them vote Democrat. When amnesty is declared, 30-40 million unemployables will emerge from the shadows, demanding their share of what you had hoped to receive in Social Security and Medicare. Guess how they’ll vote.

    Would you really prefer that blacks were 20% of the population? Legal, subsidized abortion is a great thing, at least in a country with a large, disproportionately black underclass. Only people who value their fairy tales over the well-being of their society can disagree.

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    Would I rather that there be more American citizens in America than foreigners? Would I prefer that America’s society was comprised of the same ethnic groups, as opposed to the unmanageable open borders tapestry that seems to appeal to you? Well, yes.
    , @theMann
    Let me preface my following remarks with this: as a Catholic, I recognise that abortion is a great evil, perhaps the greatest of our time, the worst of it being sex selective abortion destabilizing whole countries.


    Even so, I am just mean enough to be in a room full of Libtards and refer to abortion clinics as:

    genetic garbage disposal factories

    Liberalism's best idea ever. It is pin the racist tail on the Libtard donkey, with devastating effect.
    , @Almost Missouri

    "Would you really prefer that blacks were 20% of the population?"
     
    You don't have to prefer it. Blacks will be.

    The US black population has been outgrowing the white population since the establishment of the federal welfare state in the 1930s. Prior to the welfare state, whites outgrew blacks. Since the welfare state, blacks outgrow whites. It's really that simple. Prior to the welfare state, the black population was headed toward statistical irrelevance. Since the the welfare state, the black population is headed toward 20% and beyond.

    The only real change since then has been Kennedy-Cellar immigration supercharging white decline. Black growth is unaffected. Twenty percent, here we come!

    Abortion is at best a red herring. Somehow, prior to legal abortion, the black population proportion was mostly shrinking. Somehow, after legal abortion, the black population proportion is always growing.

    Much of the fantasy that abortion is holding down blacks seems to rest on the false assumption that a mother of four who had two abortions would otherwise have been a mother of six. While this has a superficial plausibility, it ignores how reality works. A mother who feels she can manage four will likely stop at four. Indeed, if she believes that legal abortion will cover the consequences of her promiscuity, she is more likely to be promiscuous and then slack past the part about aborting the consequences, so ending up with more than the four she would have stopped at otherwise.

    The abortion body count is no more useful in forecasting demographic outcome than the Vietnam War body count was useful in forecasting the outcome of that conflict.

    The abortion portion fallacy in demographics is akin to the Lump of Labor Fallacy in economics, except the Abortion Portion Fallacy is more obviously false. Pregnancies can--and apparently do--rise is response to abortion's availability.

    The Dems' insipid talking point of "Show me a 50' wall and I'll show you a 51' ladder" would actually be true were it turned to abortion: "Show me a womb with 3 abortions and I'll show you a welfare mother with 7 pregnancies."
    , @Stan d Mute

    Only people who value their fairy tales over the well-being of their society can disagree.
     
    This is why there is NO hope. People believe the fairy tales they were taught by parents and teachers. And whether those fairy tales are so absurd and counter factual as to become self parody seems not to matter in the least.
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  35. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:

    Hillary lost because blacks who voted for Obama in the Midwest stayed home. Strange that the uncomfortable truth this exposes is seldom discussed.

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    Not strange at all. Trump supporters want to believe that their guy won because of [reasons]. Democrats and libs can't admit that "racially woke" midwest blacks voted for Obama only because he is black, and didn't turn out in numbers for Hillary, because she's white (the fact that this was expected pre-election doesn't change the fact that it cost her).

    I expect the "black voter racist apathy cost Hillary the election" explanation to eventually find its way to the surface, once emotions settle on both sides.
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  36. AndrewR says:
    @CCZ
    "And, apparently, the executive who axed the show was a black woman."

    And "an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important."

    "But it was striking that it was Ms. Dungey and not one of her superiors — and not a network spokesman or spokeswoman, to whom such statements are often attributed — who condemned Ms. Barr and declared the end of “Roseanne.” Ms. Dungey, 49, became an instant celebrity, her name trending on Twitter as people rushed to express gratitude for her stand and holding her up as an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/business/media/channing-dungey-roseanne.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    https://twitter.com/seankent/status/1001523548937170944?tfw_site=nytimes&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F05%2F29%2Fbusiness%2Fmedia%2Fchanning-dungey-roseanne.html

    Representation is important so that executives of color can cancel the most popular sitcom on TV, putting dozens of people, some of whom are also of color, out of work based on one tweet for which the offender profusely apologized. Then soy-addled white “comedians” like me can virtue signal about it to show what moral people we are. Yay diversity!

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  37. AndrewR says:
    @Anon
    If someone who was widely read on twitter said I was an ape I’d be pretty mad too.

    What’s interesting about her father is that although he was a member of the communist party he was employed by the State Department during the height of the Cold War.

    And, he was sent to Iran when about 1/4 of the country was still occupied by Russia due to its invasion during WW2

    Hmmmmm still think Senator McCarthy was wrong?

    Let’s spread a rumor that she’s really White, just another Rachel Dolzeal

    Roseanne didn’t double down. She expressed apparently-sincere regret. The gracious thing for Jarrett to have done would have been to accept the apology, say she didn’t want the show to be cancelled on her account, and then say “let’s make this a teaching moment.” But Jarrett is a powerful person and she didn’t get that way through graciousness.

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  38. Ed says:

    It’ll be interesting to see who the Dems nominate. I think the blacks expected to run Booker and Harris fall in this HR camp. Warren too. Bernie isn’t really like this but will probably have to pander to this crowd to get over the jump.

    I’ve said on Twitter for some time during and after Obama’s era Dems simply could not say no to their loony wing. They are ascendent and also repellant. It will accrue to Trumps benefit. The only thing is that I’m not sure it’ll accrue to the GOP’s. Often times the GOP goes along with the madness.

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    "It’ll be interesting to see who the Dems nominate. I think the blacks expected to run Booker and Harris fall in this HR camp. Warren too."

    I agree.

    If the White Genocide Party runs a white in 2020, they think Trump can't be beat.

    If the WGP runs a colored in 2020, they smell victory.

    Because they use superdelegates, WGP leaders and not WGP voters choose the nominee. WGP primaries are fake AF.
    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    My money is on the junior Senator from California at the top of the ticket and a certain "independent" Senator from Vermont as her running-mate.

    Whether she's got the executive experience or is likable or not doesn't really matter. Time and again, Democrats have shown their most important preference is that identity is identity.

    Their obsession with having a few folks with the right complexion or genitals at the apex of society is supposed to be sufficient consolation for the vast numbers left behind in the underclass. It's reminiscent of the Communist regimes' obsession with having Olympic champions represent their countries. Sure the workers & farmers of the proletariat can bask in the glory of their national champions, but they shouldn't expect any real changes in a nasty life filled with privation & hardship no matter how many five year plans are fulfilled.

    Nobody really takes him seriously, but Trump's right when he asks what the Democrats have really accomplished for American blacks over the past decades. Even the current obsession with eliminating disparate impact in things like school discipline or the the criminal justice system are only making life in the 'hood even more dysfunctional and intolerable for any of the decent pro-social citizens who can't afford to live anywhere else. Instead of representing the innocent & harmless bookish kids like the young Ta Nehisi Coates was, the Democrats have become the party of his bullies, kids like Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin who likely beat up and extorted the likes of the young Coates.

    Yet the helots of the Democratic party remain loyal, inspired or deluded that having a few more faces that look like theirs at the top which might make them expect things will get better for their own passive lives at the bottom. I'm really curious how the offspring of Generation Woke is going to turn out. Sure Coates inherited the legacy of hate for whitey from his own Black Panther daddy, but what will the next generation of Coates see and decide? It's not unheard of for one generation to rise up and rebel against its elders in some way. Likewise what will become of the even softer and even more coddled generation that comes after folks like Matt Yglesias? I see darkly that they will be crushed by a society that becomes even harsher and crueler than our own in spite of his parents efforts at "social justice" which were ostensibly aimed at making the world more fair.

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  39. Ed says:
    @CCZ
    "And, apparently, the executive who axed the show was a black woman."

    And "an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important."

    "But it was striking that it was Ms. Dungey and not one of her superiors — and not a network spokesman or spokeswoman, to whom such statements are often attributed — who condemned Ms. Barr and declared the end of “Roseanne.” Ms. Dungey, 49, became an instant celebrity, her name trending on Twitter as people rushed to express gratitude for her stand and holding her up as an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/business/media/channing-dungey-roseanne.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    https://twitter.com/seankent/status/1001523548937170944?tfw_site=nytimes&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F05%2F29%2Fbusiness%2Fmedia%2Fchanning-dungey-roseanne.html

    Evidently ABC is last place in among network TV broadcasters. Ironically Roseanne probably saved her job coming and going.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/business/media/working-on-roseanne-show.html

    Still, the network desperately needed a hit, perhaps a reason it was willing to let some of Ms. Barr’s more outlandish statements go. “Roseanne,” along with the rookie drama “The Good Doctor,” has helped put the network on better footing, though it will finish the 2017-18 TV season in last place for the third straight year.

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  40. @YetAnotherAnon
    "she just looked and talked exactly like the stereotypical humorless HR enforcer of PC"

    Talking of which, look who's in charge of law and order in Wolverhampton, UK, latest scene of 'youths' stabbing 'teens' and formerly the constituency of one J. Enoch Powell.

    I know physiognomy ain't everything, but will the knife boys be very afraid?

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/2149/production/_101812580_mediaitem101807979.jpg


    "Ch Supt Jayne Meir, in charge of police in the city of Wolverhampton, said she wanted the cycle of violence to stop.

    "This isn't unique to Wolverhampton and unfortunately it's not unique to the West Midlands, it's happening in cities across the country and we need it to stop," she said."
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-44303296

    (trying to paste the picture of Ms Meir - I see the img html label is verboten)

    Things have changed since the days of Sergeant “Scarface” Alf Foster of the Greater Manchester Police.

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    Wonderful pic. He looks like Victor McLaglen.
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  41. Arclight says:
    @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    Interesting, and I partially agree. I think Hillary mostly lost because:

    1) As said, she has the charisma of a HR hag,

    2) People were tired of Obama's policies after eight years of mediocre administration and constant haranguing, and

    3) Her campaign insulted the voters with her endless ranting, and people voted out of spite. I was convinced at the time that Trump was too unconventional to win, until Hillary called his voters a "basket of deplorables". I still can't explain why exactly, but the moment I read that I had a sudden feeling that Trump had a chance of being elected.

    Good points…a lot of this comes down to the more conventional “who would you rather have a beer with” test of political candidates. Even a lot of dyed in the wool Democrats found her uninspiring and pedantic, the type of person you’d hate to be stuck in an elevator with. I have a lot of friends who are hard core Democrats and although there were a few childless single women who seemed excited about her candidacy, no one else was.

    I also have to admit that I enjoyed all of the weeping and rending of garments after her loss – a lot of Hillary voters thought that with Obama political history was basically over and the left had total control of the future in this country, and it’s obvious with things like the video of Ben Rhodes making the rounds (and the reaction of the media on election night) they all shared this assumption as well. The GOP had better not take it for granted that there are no sure things in politics.

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  42. TTSSYF says:
    @Anonymous
    I thought Bush 1 would beat Clinton, (although I knew Dole was a guaranteed loser), I was sure Kerry would bet Bush II, and I thought Romney would beat Obama. So, much as I detested The Rod, I figured she was going to win. I am wrong a lot.

    But then something happened. It took me about five minutes after seeing one event, when I became absolutely convinced Trump, as unlikely as it seemed, would beat Clinton. People said I was wrong before and would be wrong again, but this time I never doubted myself.

    On Election Night 2016, I was vindicated.

    What was this, ahem, seminal event??

    It was when Madonna stepped up to the mic, and offered to, as certain New England Patriots put it, step up to the mic.

    I figured, and still do, that this was not a spontaneous riff of attempted humor on her part but that it was a carefully orchestrated move. And it was a desperate one indeed. Whether she just hated Trump personally for some slight, like her onetime heroine Debbie Harry, or whether someone made some deal with her to do it (it would have been an important someone, as she's a billionairess), either way it was a Hail Mary pass. Say what you want about her, she's still an Italian Catholic girl, and I think her father is still alive: she had to have second thoughts about this. She, or her handlers, wanted Clinton in there real bad. And were not optimistic.

    Of course, it did more harm than good, although I'm certain it wasn't the decisive move in The Rod's defeat.

    Still: it will remain in my mind forever as the moment Trump had victory in the bag.

    There was a different moment when I became more certain that Trump just might win…and that was when the police officers were gunned down in Dallas. I figured the average citizen would be rightly sickened by this and by the Dems’ reaction to it; i.e., when they invited the mothers of felons on-stage.

    However, I was wrong about Romney. I knew he didn’t fire up the Republican base, but, for the life of me, I still can’t see why any white person of moderate political beliefs, whether Left or Right, would have voted for Obama over Romney. As I’ve mentioned to more than one person — we nominated a Boy Scout, and the Left turned him into an SOB. So this time, we gave them the real thing.

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  43. TTSSYF says:
    @Tiny Duck
    This is why we NEED diversity. So that whites are not allowed to be racist

    I would trust anyone, any color or Gender over a rich white man with power.

    Then why don’t you emigrate to sub-Saharan Africa?

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  44. Anon7 says:
    @Jack Hanson
    What color is the sky in your world, space man?

    This just entrenches the Rust Belt and pushes normal Americans further towards Trump. Do you think the coastal poles just live in a bubble?

    Pushing normal Americans towards Trump? Yes, I hope so.

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  45. Anon7 says:
    @AndrewR
    Would you really prefer that blacks were 20% of the population? Legal, subsidized abortion is a great thing, at least in a country with a large, disproportionately black underclass. Only people who value their fairy tales over the well-being of their society can disagree.

    Would I rather that there be more American citizens in America than foreigners? Would I prefer that America’s society was comprised of the same ethnic groups, as opposed to the unmanageable open borders tapestry that seems to appeal to you? Well, yes.

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  46. Newyorker says:
    @Anon
    Who sends their kids to public schools, particularly in NYC which has hundreds of private and religious schools far superior to the public school system? If the school’s
    not be in the neighborhood some have their own school buses. Others have well organized car pools.

    Life is complicated enough, why make problems?

    Many schools in upscale areas such as park slope the east side and upper west side have been hijacked once a critical mass of convened parents form. They form powerful PTAs that the bureaucracy respect.

    Then there are the selective high schools many of their kids qualify for

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  47. BenKenobi says:
    @Anon
    The majority of those children who were aborted were black and brown.
    Legal abortion free to welfare women is the only good thing that has happened to Whites since the school desegregation decision on 1956.

    Anyway, there were more abortions before legalization than after legalization.

    You can’t be pro White and anti abortion.

    Joke: I’m pro-life!
    Broke: I’m pro-choice!
    Woke: What race is it?

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  48. @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    Interesting, and I partially agree. I think Hillary mostly lost because:

    1) As said, she has the charisma of a HR hag,

    2) People were tired of Obama's policies after eight years of mediocre administration and constant haranguing, and

    3) Her campaign insulted the voters with her endless ranting, and people voted out of spite. I was convinced at the time that Trump was too unconventional to win, until Hillary called his voters a "basket of deplorables". I still can't explain why exactly, but the moment I read that I had a sudden feeling that Trump had a chance of being elected.

    “I still can’t explain why exactly, but the moment I read that I had a sudden feeling that Trump had a chance of being elected.”

    The moment I heard HR Clinton screech, “Why am I not up by 50 points?!?!?!!!” I thought Trump might very well triumph.

    But I thought from the beginning the White Genocide Party erred in nominating Old Lady Thunderbiscuits.

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  49. @Ed
    It’ll be interesting to see who the Dems nominate. I think the blacks expected to run Booker and Harris fall in this HR camp. Warren too. Bernie isn’t really like this but will probably have to pander to this crowd to get over the jump.

    I’ve said on Twitter for some time during and after Obama's era Dems simply could not say no to their loony wing. They are ascendent and also repellant. It will accrue to Trumps benefit. The only thing is that I’m not sure it’ll accrue to the GOP’s. Often times the GOP goes along with the madness.

    “It’ll be interesting to see who the Dems nominate. I think the blacks expected to run Booker and Harris fall in this HR camp. Warren too.”

    I agree.

    If the White Genocide Party runs a white in 2020, they think Trump can’t be beat.

    If the WGP runs a colored in 2020, they smell victory.

    Because they use superdelegates, WGP leaders and not WGP voters choose the nominee. WGP primaries are fake AF.

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    If you think Gay Mulatto and Head Snapping "Oh no you didn't" black female have a chance you are only highlighting the complete lack of political acumen the iSteve commentariat is known for.

    Okay the Dems run in a thousand pawns as queens by running up the vote in the cities, but you get Checkmate by winning WWC voters in the Rust Belt.

    Guess which matters more? I'm also assuming a lot with the idea that a histrionic gay (remember his falsetto in front of Nielsen) and Sassy Black Woman are going to do well among blacks, to say nothing of any other Dem group.
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  50. theMann says:
    @AndrewR
    Would you really prefer that blacks were 20% of the population? Legal, subsidized abortion is a great thing, at least in a country with a large, disproportionately black underclass. Only people who value their fairy tales over the well-being of their society can disagree.

    Let me preface my following remarks with this: as a Catholic, I recognise that abortion is a great evil, perhaps the greatest of our time, the worst of it being sex selective abortion destabilizing whole countries.

    Even so, I am just mean enough to be in a room full of Libtards and refer to abortion clinics as:

    genetic garbage disposal factories

    Liberalism’s best idea ever. It is pin the racist tail on the Libtard donkey, with devastating effect.

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  51. @Anonymous
    OT

    I get the feeling that the New York Times wants to encourage more school shootings as part of its anti gun, anti white male platform. This article is almost a religious sanctification of school shootings:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/school-shootings-columbine.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    The piece had three bylines and eight researchers, and it isn't even news; more of what Jack Shafer calls a "New York Times fake trend story":

    https://www.poynter.org/news/how-slates-jack-shafer-calls-out-bogus-trend-stories

    In the past the Times has joined other outlets in calling for less coverage:

    Mass Killings May Have Created Contagion, Feeding on Itself
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/science/mass-killings-contagion-copycat.html

    Room for Debate: How Should the News Media Cover Mass Shooters?
    https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/10/09/how-should-the-news-media-cover-mass-shooters

    From the last one:

    There is a growing body of forensic evidence that mass shooters emulate their most infamous predecessors.... there are now clear indications that some individuals who plan and carry out these crimes are influenced by sensational news coverage of prior attacks.
     

    “In the past the Times has joined other outlets in calling for less coverage [of mass shootings]“

    Back then they thought that the Dems were gonna own the government.

    Now it turns out that there are still a lot of deplorable Repubs in charge, so all negative events must be amplified and laid at their feet until the Revolution is complete. Only then can the media switch to its other function of amplifying good news and suppressing bad.

    Forward together comrades! Progress!

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    It depends on which parts of the mass shooting they want less coverage of:
    1) The lack of male parental input of any kind in 26 of the last 28 shootings?
    2) The prevalence of anti-depressant drug use or the stopping of same in almost all of the shootings.
    3) The presence of FBI or DEA of SS agents among the family's of the shooters or in the school the same day or the previous day for " training ".
    4) The practice of legally turning the schools in free fire zones, by banning weapons of any sort for teachers, parents, adult students, and conspicuously posting the bans. Like announcing open season on the kids here.
    5) The last administrations arrangements to put an end to schools discipling troublesome students so as to avoid the "school to prison" pipeline; actually that is the playground/street corner to prison pipeline but the NYT is no longer known for delicate nuance.
    , @ic1000
    Earlier this week (sorry, no time to find the link), the weekday CBS Evening News had a feature that I could only describe as violence pornography. A former deputy sheriff is cashing in on Current Year school shooting hysteria by marketing participatory shooting workshops to principals and administrators. The CBS News camera lets the viewer experience the adrenaline rush of the student shooter as he -- or she! even middle-school African-American she! -- roams through classrooms gunning down the sheep. Then, frowny-face reporter explores How Does It Feeeel? to be in the crosshairs of a (simulated) crazed mass murderer? Concerned teachers, administrators, and students recount their feeling of helplessness, and how it turns to rage at the failure of Trump and his lackeys to Solve The Problem.

    The media progressives are too cocooned to glimpse the conclusion that their porn invites flyover country proles to reach. Namely, if school-shooter terror is this justified and this widespread, let's go full NRA and stock every kindergarten classroom with handguns. It's our only chance at survival!
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  52. Jack D says:
    @Anon7
    I don’t agree. The sacking of Roseanne Barr has endless benefits for Democrats and the Left. It shows you why Republican politicians are helpless wussies who refuse to stand behind our President. The Left works like this: first, the line you must not cross is constantly moving, and they’re the ones who define it. At any moment, the line might move and BANG your career is over. Better to stay way back of the line, or better, say nothing and hope the Left doesn’t see you. Imagine it: at any time, your entire career could be trashed based on ONE sentence. No apologies accepted, no do-overs, no forgiveness, no redemption.

    That’s power.

    The best way for us to attack the Democrats is to force them to the hard Left. Make sure that every citizen knows the Democratic strategy, which is to strip citizens of their rights and entitlements. There have been about 40 million abortions of American children since legalization. In the same time period about 40 million legal foreign replacements have been brought in, many of them illiterate, unskilled welfare recipients: 80% of them vote Democrat. When amnesty is declared, 30-40 million unemployables will emerge from the shadows, demanding their share of what you had hoped to receive in Social Security and Medicare. Guess how they’ll vote.

    Abortion is not the problem for the reason that others point out. Instead of immigrants who vote 80% Democrat (and there is the potential for them to shift after a few generations) you have blacks who vote 95% Democrat forever. The real problem is that which causes intelligent white women not to have any kids or maybe squeeze out 1 when they are 35. This is highly dysgenic and (combined with Latino immigration) will lead (is already leading) to the stupidification of America. Precisely the people who should be having kids aren’t and vice versa.

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  53. Jack D says:
    @CCZ
    The next time that you visit a Starbucks to just use the restroom, sit at a table and read a book or newspaper, not purchase anything, and avail yourself of the free air conditioning (sounds like a fun thing to do on a hot day), ask any of the employees these official Starbucks Human Resources sensitivity training questions (all VERY relevant to their asking you if you wish to buy something or dispensing your food or beverage, should you feel their pain and decide to purchase something).

    When was:

    1.The first time you noticed your racial identity.

    2.The first time you noticed how your race affected your beauty standards.

    3.The first time you felt your accent impacted people’s perception of your intelligence or competence.

    4.The first time you altered your communication style (dialed it up or down) to avoid playing into stereotypes.

    5.The first time you had a friend of a different race who regularly visited your home.

    6.The first time you felt distracted at work because of external events related to race.

    7.The first time you had a senior role model in your organization with a similar racial identity as your own.

    8.The first time you went to work with your natural hair without comments or questions from others.

    9.The first time you felt your race affected your ability to build a rapport with your manager.

    Many of these questions have an implicitly feminine spin – what man gives a damn about how his hair looks or “beauty standards”? What % of Starbucks workforce is female? If it is more that 50%, why are they discriminating against men in their hiring practices?

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    They seem to have way more women applying than men. Most guys wouldn't want to be on any end of a transaction with the over-bred poodles that make up the majority of Starbucks' customers.
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  54. Jack D says:
    @Anon
    Who sends their kids to public schools, particularly in NYC which has hundreds of private and religious schools far superior to the public school system? If the school’s
    not be in the neighborhood some have their own school buses. Others have well organized car pools.

    Life is complicated enough, why make problems?

    There are middle class people on the UWS (high income by normal standards but middle by NYC standards) who make just enough that they can afford an apartment in that neighborhood but not enough so that they have an extra $50k per kid per year to spend on private school. Also given the amount of taxes these folks are paying (NYC has all SORTS of taxes) why shouldn’t they be able to send their kids to a decent public school?

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  55. fitzGetty says:
    @CCZ
    The next time that you visit a Starbucks to just use the restroom, sit at a table and read a book or newspaper, not purchase anything, and avail yourself of the free air conditioning (sounds like a fun thing to do on a hot day), ask any of the employees these official Starbucks Human Resources sensitivity training questions (all VERY relevant to their asking you if you wish to buy something or dispensing your food or beverage, should you feel their pain and decide to purchase something).

    When was:

    1.The first time you noticed your racial identity.

    2.The first time you noticed how your race affected your beauty standards.

    3.The first time you felt your accent impacted people’s perception of your intelligence or competence.

    4.The first time you altered your communication style (dialed it up or down) to avoid playing into stereotypes.

    5.The first time you had a friend of a different race who regularly visited your home.

    6.The first time you felt distracted at work because of external events related to race.

    7.The first time you had a senior role model in your organization with a similar racial identity as your own.

    8.The first time you went to work with your natural hair without comments or questions from others.

    9.The first time you felt your race affected your ability to build a rapport with your manager.

    . . . and — BRING A PICNIC …

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  56. @Ed
    It’ll be interesting to see who the Dems nominate. I think the blacks expected to run Booker and Harris fall in this HR camp. Warren too. Bernie isn’t really like this but will probably have to pander to this crowd to get over the jump.

    I’ve said on Twitter for some time during and after Obama's era Dems simply could not say no to their loony wing. They are ascendent and also repellant. It will accrue to Trumps benefit. The only thing is that I’m not sure it’ll accrue to the GOP’s. Often times the GOP goes along with the madness.

    My money is on the junior Senator from California at the top of the ticket and a certain “independent” Senator from Vermont as her running-mate.

    Whether she’s got the executive experience or is likable or not doesn’t really matter. Time and again, Democrats have shown their most important preference is that identity is identity.

    Their obsession with having a few folks with the right complexion or genitals at the apex of society is supposed to be sufficient consolation for the vast numbers left behind in the underclass. It’s reminiscent of the Communist regimes’ obsession with having Olympic champions represent their countries. Sure the workers & farmers of the proletariat can bask in the glory of their national champions, but they shouldn’t expect any real changes in a nasty life filled with privation & hardship no matter how many five year plans are fulfilled.

    Nobody really takes him seriously, but Trump’s right when he asks what the Democrats have really accomplished for American blacks over the past decades. Even the current obsession with eliminating disparate impact in things like school discipline or the the criminal justice system are only making life in the ‘hood even more dysfunctional and intolerable for any of the decent pro-social citizens who can’t afford to live anywhere else. Instead of representing the innocent & harmless bookish kids like the young Ta Nehisi Coates was, the Democrats have become the party of his bullies, kids like Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin who likely beat up and extorted the likes of the young Coates.

    Yet the helots of the Democratic party remain loyal, inspired or deluded that having a few more faces that look like theirs at the top which might make them expect things will get better for their own passive lives at the bottom. I’m really curious how the offspring of Generation Woke is going to turn out. Sure Coates inherited the legacy of hate for whitey from his own Black Panther daddy, but what will the next generation of Coates see and decide? It’s not unheard of for one generation to rise up and rebel against its elders in some way. Likewise what will become of the even softer and even more coddled generation that comes after folks like Matt Yglesias? I see darkly that they will be crushed by a society that becomes even harsher and crueler than our own in spite of his parents efforts at “social justice” which were ostensibly aimed at making the world more fair.

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  57. @AndrewR
    Would you really prefer that blacks were 20% of the population? Legal, subsidized abortion is a great thing, at least in a country with a large, disproportionately black underclass. Only people who value their fairy tales over the well-being of their society can disagree.

    “Would you really prefer that blacks were 20% of the population?”

    You don’t have to prefer it. Blacks will be.

    The US black population has been outgrowing the white population since the establishment of the federal welfare state in the 1930s. Prior to the welfare state, whites outgrew blacks. Since the welfare state, blacks outgrow whites. It’s really that simple. Prior to the welfare state, the black population was headed toward statistical irrelevance. Since the the welfare state, the black population is headed toward 20% and beyond.

    The only real change since then has been Kennedy-Cellar immigration supercharging white decline. Black growth is unaffected. Twenty percent, here we come!

    Abortion is at best a red herring. Somehow, prior to legal abortion, the black population proportion was mostly shrinking. Somehow, after legal abortion, the black population proportion is always growing.

    Much of the fantasy that abortion is holding down blacks seems to rest on the false assumption that a mother of four who had two abortions would otherwise have been a mother of six. While this has a superficial plausibility, it ignores how reality works. A mother who feels she can manage four will likely stop at four. Indeed, if she believes that legal abortion will cover the consequences of her promiscuity, she is more likely to be promiscuous and then slack past the part about aborting the consequences, so ending up with more than the four she would have stopped at otherwise.

    The abortion body count is no more useful in forecasting demographic outcome than the Vietnam War body count was useful in forecasting the outcome of that conflict.

    The abortion portion fallacy in demographics is akin to the Lump of Labor Fallacy in economics, except the Abortion Portion Fallacy is more obviously false. Pregnancies can–and apparently do–rise is response to abortion’s availability.

    The Dems’ insipid talking point of “Show me a 50′ wall and I’ll show you a 51′ ladder” would actually be true were it turned to abortion: “Show me a womb with 3 abortions and I’ll show you a welfare mother with 7 pregnancies.”

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    The Lump of Labour Fallacy is a fallacy. It's what globalists throw at immigration restrictionists.

    How has the US median male wage done in the last forty-odd years?

    https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/the-typical-male-u-s-worker-earned-less-in-2014-than-in-1973/
    , @Joe Stalin
    On the other hand, if you could get States to pass anti-voting laws on Felons, you could reduce ex-offender voting power.

    Just think, ex-Felons voting for all those anti-gun politicians in Illinois and other States.
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  58. Kylie says:
    @PiltdownMan
    Things have changed since the days of Sergeant "Scarface" Alf Foster of the Greater Manchester Police.

    https://i.imgur.com/uZk2jfe.jpg

    Wonderful pic. He looks like Victor McLaglen.

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  59. “When Democrats talk about health care, education, and jobs, they can focus the white working class on the working-class part of its identity rather than the white part.”

    …But the Left’s focus IS the white part of “white working class.” The white working-class is its favorite target for demonization. These are the hayseed Klansmen clinging to guns, religion, and racism. …The deplorable basket cases. White workers didn’t make this an issue – the Left did. Once again, our media sages get it ass-backwards.

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  60. @Almost Missouri

    "Would you really prefer that blacks were 20% of the population?"
     
    You don't have to prefer it. Blacks will be.

    The US black population has been outgrowing the white population since the establishment of the federal welfare state in the 1930s. Prior to the welfare state, whites outgrew blacks. Since the welfare state, blacks outgrow whites. It's really that simple. Prior to the welfare state, the black population was headed toward statistical irrelevance. Since the the welfare state, the black population is headed toward 20% and beyond.

    The only real change since then has been Kennedy-Cellar immigration supercharging white decline. Black growth is unaffected. Twenty percent, here we come!

    Abortion is at best a red herring. Somehow, prior to legal abortion, the black population proportion was mostly shrinking. Somehow, after legal abortion, the black population proportion is always growing.

    Much of the fantasy that abortion is holding down blacks seems to rest on the false assumption that a mother of four who had two abortions would otherwise have been a mother of six. While this has a superficial plausibility, it ignores how reality works. A mother who feels she can manage four will likely stop at four. Indeed, if she believes that legal abortion will cover the consequences of her promiscuity, she is more likely to be promiscuous and then slack past the part about aborting the consequences, so ending up with more than the four she would have stopped at otherwise.

    The abortion body count is no more useful in forecasting demographic outcome than the Vietnam War body count was useful in forecasting the outcome of that conflict.

    The abortion portion fallacy in demographics is akin to the Lump of Labor Fallacy in economics, except the Abortion Portion Fallacy is more obviously false. Pregnancies can--and apparently do--rise is response to abortion's availability.

    The Dems' insipid talking point of "Show me a 50' wall and I'll show you a 51' ladder" would actually be true were it turned to abortion: "Show me a womb with 3 abortions and I'll show you a welfare mother with 7 pregnancies."

    The Lump of Labour Fallacy is a fallacy. It’s what globalists throw at immigration restrictionists.

    How has the US median male wage done in the last forty-odd years?

    https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/the-typical-male-u-s-worker-earned-less-in-2014-than-in-1973/

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    Right, the Lump of Labor Fallacy is not entirely a fallacy, but the Abortion Portion Fallacy is. That's why I said APF is "more obviously false" than LoLF.
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  61. @Almost Missouri

    "Would you really prefer that blacks were 20% of the population?"
     
    You don't have to prefer it. Blacks will be.

    The US black population has been outgrowing the white population since the establishment of the federal welfare state in the 1930s. Prior to the welfare state, whites outgrew blacks. Since the welfare state, blacks outgrow whites. It's really that simple. Prior to the welfare state, the black population was headed toward statistical irrelevance. Since the the welfare state, the black population is headed toward 20% and beyond.

    The only real change since then has been Kennedy-Cellar immigration supercharging white decline. Black growth is unaffected. Twenty percent, here we come!

    Abortion is at best a red herring. Somehow, prior to legal abortion, the black population proportion was mostly shrinking. Somehow, after legal abortion, the black population proportion is always growing.

    Much of the fantasy that abortion is holding down blacks seems to rest on the false assumption that a mother of four who had two abortions would otherwise have been a mother of six. While this has a superficial plausibility, it ignores how reality works. A mother who feels she can manage four will likely stop at four. Indeed, if she believes that legal abortion will cover the consequences of her promiscuity, she is more likely to be promiscuous and then slack past the part about aborting the consequences, so ending up with more than the four she would have stopped at otherwise.

    The abortion body count is no more useful in forecasting demographic outcome than the Vietnam War body count was useful in forecasting the outcome of that conflict.

    The abortion portion fallacy in demographics is akin to the Lump of Labor Fallacy in economics, except the Abortion Portion Fallacy is more obviously false. Pregnancies can--and apparently do--rise is response to abortion's availability.

    The Dems' insipid talking point of "Show me a 50' wall and I'll show you a 51' ladder" would actually be true were it turned to abortion: "Show me a womb with 3 abortions and I'll show you a welfare mother with 7 pregnancies."

    On the other hand, if you could get States to pass anti-voting laws on Felons, you could reduce ex-offender voting power.

    Just think, ex-Felons voting for all those anti-gun politicians in Illinois and other States.

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  62. @Berty
    Hillary lost because Trump pretended that he cared about immigration.

    Hillary lost because Trump pretended that he cared about immigration.

    Excellent analysis.

    I voted for Hillary, because I knew people who had done business with Trump, and I knew he was a con man. It is painful to see Ann Coulter suddenly realize she was HAD by a con man. But then, she got a lot of money out of believing Trump, so I can see how that might affect her judgment.

    Hm. Trump suddenly decides to go easy on China on trade matters when Ivanka gets thousands of new Chinese trademarks. Interesting coincidence. He even saves a company deemed to be a national security threat to the US.

    Hillary also lost because Trump pretended he cared about trade. After the election, Bernie Sanders offered to work with Trump to put together some more protectionist trade policies.

    **crickets**

    Oh, and those new tarrifs? How did that suddenly disappear?

    Sorry, but I can’t see a dime’s worth of difference between Trump and Jeb Bush.

    It truly pains me to say that. I knew Trump was a con man, but for the benefit of this country, I hoped he really would act as a nationalist rather than a Koch-brothers globalist.

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    "He hasn't done everything now so BLUMPF!"

    Got it, you can be safely ignored.
    , @MarkinLA
    The difference is that Jeb would have signed Luis Guitierrez' amnesty by now as would Hillary. Con man or not he is better than either of those two.
    , @Mishra

    I can’t see a dime’s worth of difference between Trump and Jeb Bush.
     
    Trump pisses off the Establishment. And makes their MSM apoplectic. Shall I go on?

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/jeb-bush-wife-columba-president-donald-trump-melania-300x232.jpg

    , @Dissident

    It is painful to see Ann Coulter suddenly realize she was HAD by a con man. But then, she got a lot of money out of believing Trump, so I can see how that might affect her judgment.
     
    What makes you so sure that Coulter ever really did believe Trump? Would you put it past the woman to have merely pretended to?
    , @BB753
    Trump pisses off all the right people. So he must be doing something that hurts the establishment. That can only be good. Better than four years of Hillary and then four years of Huma Abedin.
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  63. More Reasons Hillary Lost

    Donald Trump vs. Professor of Economics:

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  64. Brutusale says:
    @Jack D
    Many of these questions have an implicitly feminine spin - what man gives a damn about how his hair looks or "beauty standards"? What % of Starbucks workforce is female? If it is more that 50%, why are they discriminating against men in their hiring practices?

    They seem to have way more women applying than men. Most guys wouldn’t want to be on any end of a transaction with the over-bred poodles that make up the majority of Starbucks’ customers.

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  65. Speaking of HR, I have a son who is graduating from college and going into the corporate world. My experience is second hand and anecdotal but I have noticed a couple of things that are worth passing on. One is that people his age who can choose, are much more careful where they work. There is an understanding now that if you are white / male / straight your career prospects will be much harder and riskier at some places than others so assessing the “corporate culture” is more important than ever. That is also true for the type of work one does. Some of the more ‘political’ jobs are simply less safe from a career standpoint. If I can think of an analogy, it would be like the Soviet Union in the 1930′s when it was much safer to be an engineer or doctor v. being in the government or the Party. This is also true on a geographical basis. Working in the silicone valley would have been like being in Moscow. It is where all the action is but it might be better to relocate to an area where the power is not so concentrated.

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    There is an understanding now that if you are white / male / straight your career prospects will be much harder and riskier at some places than others so assessing the “corporate culture” is more important than ever.
     
    White males with ability are still in demand everywhere, but you need to be a neutered GoodThinker(tm) in more and more positions.
    , @donut
    No one was safe in the Soviet Union while Stalin was alive .

    https://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin/stalins-purges/
    , @Trelane
    Silicone valley? What do they do there, caulk windows and counter tops?
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  66. @Tiny Duck
    This is why we NEED diversity. So that whites are not allowed to be racist

    I would trust anyone, any color or Gender over a rich white man with power.

    This is why we NEED diversity. So that whites are not allowed to be racist

    This is too funny to make me angry.

    The more “diversity”, the more”racist” White folks get. ;)

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    Not to worry. Tiny is trolling again.
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  67. @YetAnotherAnon
    The Lump of Labour Fallacy is a fallacy. It's what globalists throw at immigration restrictionists.

    How has the US median male wage done in the last forty-odd years?

    https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/the-typical-male-u-s-worker-earned-less-in-2014-than-in-1973/

    Right, the Lump of Labor Fallacy is not entirely a fallacy, but the Abortion Portion Fallacy is. That’s why I said APF is “more obviously false” than LoLF.

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  68. Dan Hayes says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    "she just looked and talked exactly like the stereotypical humorless HR enforcer of PC"

    Talking of which, look who's in charge of law and order in Wolverhampton, UK, latest scene of 'youths' stabbing 'teens' and formerly the constituency of one J. Enoch Powell.

    I know physiognomy ain't everything, but will the knife boys be very afraid?

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/2149/production/_101812580_mediaitem101807979.jpg


    "Ch Supt Jayne Meir, in charge of police in the city of Wolverhampton, said she wanted the cycle of violence to stop.

    "This isn't unique to Wolverhampton and unfortunately it's not unique to the West Midlands, it's happening in cities across the country and we need it to stop," she said."
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-44303296

    (trying to paste the picture of Ms Meir - I see the img html label is verboten)

    YetAnotherAnon:

    For a real lack of visual intimidation check out the visage of Ms Cressida Dick, Commissioner of Metropolitan Police Service in London.

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    For a real lack of visual intimidation check out the visage of Ms Cressida Dick, Commissioner of Metropolitan Police Service in London.
     
    The British have gone from having a good sense of humor to being the utter laughing stock of the world. Could they possibly be more pathetic?

    https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2017/04/10/16/cressidadick.jpg
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  69. bomag says:
    @Anonymous
    I like how those questions work. Give the "unoppressed" answer and you're admitting you're privileged. Give the "oppressed" spiel and, see, you experience some of the struggles LGBTQ people of color face every day, so now you can't object to the rest of the program to abolish straight white male privilege.

    I like how those questions work.

    Yes; reminds me of the classic, “are you still beating your wife?”

    They come with a built in premise.

    Let’s just add more:

    10. When’s the first time you noticed that you make mistakes and thus shouldn’t be so sure of anything you do?

    11. When’s the first time you noticed racial differences in people and immediately realized that you just made a massive mistake that has forever tainted you and now you need to embrace a political regime that will eliminate your race from the planet?

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  70. bomag says:
    @Prof. Woland
    Speaking of HR, I have a son who is graduating from college and going into the corporate world. My experience is second hand and anecdotal but I have noticed a couple of things that are worth passing on. One is that people his age who can choose, are much more careful where they work. There is an understanding now that if you are white / male / straight your career prospects will be much harder and riskier at some places than others so assessing the "corporate culture" is more important than ever. That is also true for the type of work one does. Some of the more 'political' jobs are simply less safe from a career standpoint. If I can think of an analogy, it would be like the Soviet Union in the 1930's when it was much safer to be an engineer or doctor v. being in the government or the Party. This is also true on a geographical basis. Working in the silicone valley would have been like being in Moscow. It is where all the action is but it might be better to relocate to an area where the power is not so concentrated.

    There is an understanding now that if you are white / male / straight your career prospects will be much harder and riskier at some places than others so assessing the “corporate culture” is more important than ever.

    White males with ability are still in demand everywhere, but you need to be a neutered GoodThinker(tm) in more and more positions.

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  71. CK says:
    @Almost Missouri

    "In the past the Times has joined other outlets in calling for less coverage [of mass shootings]"
     
    Back then they thought that the Dems were gonna own the government.

    Now it turns out that there are still a lot of deplorable Repubs in charge, so all negative events must be amplified and laid at their feet until the Revolution is complete. Only then can the media switch to its other function of amplifying good news and suppressing bad.

    Forward together comrades! Progress!

    It depends on which parts of the mass shooting they want less coverage of:
    1) The lack of male parental input of any kind in 26 of the last 28 shootings?
    2) The prevalence of anti-depressant drug use or the stopping of same in almost all of the shootings.
    3) The presence of FBI or DEA of SS agents among the family’s of the shooters or in the school the same day or the previous day for ” training “.
    4) The practice of legally turning the schools in free fire zones, by banning weapons of any sort for teachers, parents, adult students, and conspicuously posting the bans. Like announcing open season on the kids here.
    5) The last administrations arrangements to put an end to schools discipling troublesome students so as to avoid the “school to prison” pipeline; actually that is the playground/street corner to prison pipeline but the NYT is no longer known for delicate nuance.

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    Good points.

    My point was that back when the NYT was publicly proposing that Big Media back off their promotion of mass shootings and lower the body count a little, they thought they were going to be in a Hillary/Dem world. Now that it is Trump/Repub they don't care anymore: let the bodies hit the floor, as long as it hurts Trump!
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  72. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "It’ll be interesting to see who the Dems nominate. I think the blacks expected to run Booker and Harris fall in this HR camp. Warren too."

    I agree.

    If the White Genocide Party runs a white in 2020, they think Trump can't be beat.

    If the WGP runs a colored in 2020, they smell victory.

    Because they use superdelegates, WGP leaders and not WGP voters choose the nominee. WGP primaries are fake AF.

    If you think Gay Mulatto and Head Snapping “Oh no you didn’t” black female have a chance you are only highlighting the complete lack of political acumen the iSteve commentariat is known for.

    Okay the Dems run in a thousand pawns as queens by running up the vote in the cities, but you get Checkmate by winning WWC voters in the Rust Belt.

    Guess which matters more? I’m also assuming a lot with the idea that a histrionic gay (remember his falsetto in front of Nielsen) and Sassy Black Woman are going to do well among blacks, to say nothing of any other Dem group.

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  73. @Paleo Liberal

    Hillary lost because Trump pretended that he cared about immigration.
     
    Excellent analysis.

    I voted for Hillary, because I knew people who had done business with Trump, and I knew he was a con man. It is painful to see Ann Coulter suddenly realize she was HAD by a con man. But then, she got a lot of money out of believing Trump, so I can see how that might affect her judgment.

    Hm. Trump suddenly decides to go easy on China on trade matters when Ivanka gets thousands of new Chinese trademarks. Interesting coincidence. He even saves a company deemed to be a national security threat to the US.

    Hillary also lost because Trump pretended he cared about trade. After the election, Bernie Sanders offered to work with Trump to put together some more protectionist trade policies.

    **crickets**

    Oh, and those new tarrifs? How did that suddenly disappear?

    Sorry, but I can't see a dime's worth of difference between Trump and Jeb Bush.

    It truly pains me to say that. I knew Trump was a con man, but for the benefit of this country, I hoped he really would act as a nationalist rather than a Koch-brothers globalist.

    “He hasn’t done everything now so BLUMPF!”

    Got it, you can be safely ignored.

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  74. donut says:
    @Prof. Woland
    Speaking of HR, I have a son who is graduating from college and going into the corporate world. My experience is second hand and anecdotal but I have noticed a couple of things that are worth passing on. One is that people his age who can choose, are much more careful where they work. There is an understanding now that if you are white / male / straight your career prospects will be much harder and riskier at some places than others so assessing the "corporate culture" is more important than ever. That is also true for the type of work one does. Some of the more 'political' jobs are simply less safe from a career standpoint. If I can think of an analogy, it would be like the Soviet Union in the 1930's when it was much safer to be an engineer or doctor v. being in the government or the Party. This is also true on a geographical basis. Working in the silicone valley would have been like being in Moscow. It is where all the action is but it might be better to relocate to an area where the power is not so concentrated.

    No one was safe in the Soviet Union while Stalin was alive .

    https://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin/stalins-purges/

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  75. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    My money is on the junior Senator from California at the top of the ticket and a certain "independent" Senator from Vermont as her running-mate.

    Whether she's got the executive experience or is likable or not doesn't really matter. Time and again, Democrats have shown their most important preference is that identity is identity.

    Their obsession with having a few folks with the right complexion or genitals at the apex of society is supposed to be sufficient consolation for the vast numbers left behind in the underclass. It's reminiscent of the Communist regimes' obsession with having Olympic champions represent their countries. Sure the workers & farmers of the proletariat can bask in the glory of their national champions, but they shouldn't expect any real changes in a nasty life filled with privation & hardship no matter how many five year plans are fulfilled.

    Nobody really takes him seriously, but Trump's right when he asks what the Democrats have really accomplished for American blacks over the past decades. Even the current obsession with eliminating disparate impact in things like school discipline or the the criminal justice system are only making life in the 'hood even more dysfunctional and intolerable for any of the decent pro-social citizens who can't afford to live anywhere else. Instead of representing the innocent & harmless bookish kids like the young Ta Nehisi Coates was, the Democrats have become the party of his bullies, kids like Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin who likely beat up and extorted the likes of the young Coates.

    Yet the helots of the Democratic party remain loyal, inspired or deluded that having a few more faces that look like theirs at the top which might make them expect things will get better for their own passive lives at the bottom. I'm really curious how the offspring of Generation Woke is going to turn out. Sure Coates inherited the legacy of hate for whitey from his own Black Panther daddy, but what will the next generation of Coates see and decide? It's not unheard of for one generation to rise up and rebel against its elders in some way. Likewise what will become of the even softer and even more coddled generation that comes after folks like Matt Yglesias? I see darkly that they will be crushed by a society that becomes even harsher and crueler than our own in spite of his parents efforts at "social justice" which were ostensibly aimed at making the world more fair.

    I take Trump seriously.

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  76. @AndrewR
    Would you really prefer that blacks were 20% of the population? Legal, subsidized abortion is a great thing, at least in a country with a large, disproportionately black underclass. Only people who value their fairy tales over the well-being of their society can disagree.

    Only people who value their fairy tales over the well-being of their society can disagree.

    This is why there is NO hope. People believe the fairy tales they were taught by parents and teachers. And whether those fairy tales are so absurd and counter factual as to become self parody seems not to matter in the least.

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  77. @Dan Hayes
    YetAnotherAnon:

    For a real lack of visual intimidation check out the visage of Ms Cressida Dick, Commissioner of Metropolitan Police Service in London.

    For a real lack of visual intimidation check out the visage of Ms Cressida Dick, Commissioner of Metropolitan Police Service in London.

    The British have gone from having a good sense of humor to being the utter laughing stock of the world. Could they possibly be more pathetic?

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    Stan d Mute,

    Sincere thanks for supplying the photo of Ms Dick. The good Hitchens, Peter, warned the world some time ago about the future Commissioner-to-be.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    To be fair, both Jayne Meir and Cressida Dick would look pretty scary and intimidating if, for example, they were sat opposite you at an internal audit or an HR appeals tribunal.
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  78. MarkinLA says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Hillary lost because Trump pretended that he cared about immigration.
     
    Excellent analysis.

    I voted for Hillary, because I knew people who had done business with Trump, and I knew he was a con man. It is painful to see Ann Coulter suddenly realize she was HAD by a con man. But then, she got a lot of money out of believing Trump, so I can see how that might affect her judgment.

    Hm. Trump suddenly decides to go easy on China on trade matters when Ivanka gets thousands of new Chinese trademarks. Interesting coincidence. He even saves a company deemed to be a national security threat to the US.

    Hillary also lost because Trump pretended he cared about trade. After the election, Bernie Sanders offered to work with Trump to put together some more protectionist trade policies.

    **crickets**

    Oh, and those new tarrifs? How did that suddenly disappear?

    Sorry, but I can't see a dime's worth of difference between Trump and Jeb Bush.

    It truly pains me to say that. I knew Trump was a con man, but for the benefit of this country, I hoped he really would act as a nationalist rather than a Koch-brothers globalist.

    The difference is that Jeb would have signed Luis Guitierrez’ amnesty by now as would Hillary. Con man or not he is better than either of those two.

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  79. anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @NickG
    Hillary has the charm and appeal of tertiary syphilis.

    A bloodless technocrat, Hillary was better suited to being what Andy Kumo was–HUD Sec’y or something like that. In vying for POTUS you could tell by the way she comported herself she was in over her head.

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  80. anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Magarac

    This is why we NEED diversity. So that whites are not allowed to be racist
     
    This is too funny to make me angry.

    The more "diversity", the more"racist" White folks get. ;)

    Not to worry. Tiny is trolling again.

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  81. donut says:
    @CCZ
    "And, apparently, the executive who axed the show was a black woman."

    And "an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important."

    "But it was striking that it was Ms. Dungey and not one of her superiors — and not a network spokesman or spokeswoman, to whom such statements are often attributed — who condemned Ms. Barr and declared the end of “Roseanne.” Ms. Dungey, 49, became an instant celebrity, her name trending on Twitter as people rushed to express gratitude for her stand and holding her up as an example of why diversity in Hollywood’s highest ranks is important."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/business/media/channing-dungey-roseanne.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    https://twitter.com/seankent/status/1001523548937170944?tfw_site=nytimes&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F05%2F29%2Fbusiness%2Fmedia%2Fchanning-dungey-roseanne.html

    She ugly .

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  82. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    OT

    I get the feeling that the New York Times wants to encourage more school shootings as part of its anti gun, anti white male platform. This article is almost a religious sanctification of school shootings:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/school-shootings-columbine.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

    The piece had three bylines and eight researchers, and it isn't even news; more of what Jack Shafer calls a "New York Times fake trend story":

    https://www.poynter.org/news/how-slates-jack-shafer-calls-out-bogus-trend-stories

    In the past the Times has joined other outlets in calling for less coverage:

    Mass Killings May Have Created Contagion, Feeding on Itself
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/science/mass-killings-contagion-copycat.html

    Room for Debate: How Should the News Media Cover Mass Shooters?
    https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/10/09/how-should-the-news-media-cover-mass-shooters

    From the last one:

    There is a growing body of forensic evidence that mass shooters emulate their most infamous predecessors.... there are now clear indications that some individuals who plan and carry out these crimes are influenced by sensational news coverage of prior attacks.
     

    This sounds like the left-wing idea that black-on-white crimes should not be publicised in case they lead to lynchings.

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  83. Clyde says:
    @Tiny Duck
    This is why we NEED diversity. So that whites are not allowed to be racist

    I would trust anyone, any color or Gender over a rich white man with power.

    Doesn’t your mentor Lenopid Pitz owe you a right good Rogering? And what happened to your endorsement of the verysmartbrothas?

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  84. Dan Hayes says:
    @Stan d Mute

    For a real lack of visual intimidation check out the visage of Ms Cressida Dick, Commissioner of Metropolitan Police Service in London.
     
    The British have gone from having a good sense of humor to being the utter laughing stock of the world. Could they possibly be more pathetic?

    https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2017/04/10/16/cressidadick.jpg

    Stan d Mute,

    Sincere thanks for supplying the photo of Ms Dick. The good Hitchens, Peter, warned the world some time ago about the future Commissioner-to-be.

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  85. Mishra says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Hillary lost because Trump pretended that he cared about immigration.
     
    Excellent analysis.

    I voted for Hillary, because I knew people who had done business with Trump, and I knew he was a con man. It is painful to see Ann Coulter suddenly realize she was HAD by a con man. But then, she got a lot of money out of believing Trump, so I can see how that might affect her judgment.

    Hm. Trump suddenly decides to go easy on China on trade matters when Ivanka gets thousands of new Chinese trademarks. Interesting coincidence. He even saves a company deemed to be a national security threat to the US.

    Hillary also lost because Trump pretended he cared about trade. After the election, Bernie Sanders offered to work with Trump to put together some more protectionist trade policies.

    **crickets**

    Oh, and those new tarrifs? How did that suddenly disappear?

    Sorry, but I can't see a dime's worth of difference between Trump and Jeb Bush.

    It truly pains me to say that. I knew Trump was a con man, but for the benefit of this country, I hoped he really would act as a nationalist rather than a Koch-brothers globalist.

    I can’t see a dime’s worth of difference between Trump and Jeb Bush.

    Trump pisses off the Establishment. And makes their MSM apoplectic. Shall I go on?

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  86. @Mishra

    There is a growing body of forensic evidence that mass shooters emulate their most infamous predecessors…. there are now clear indications that some individuals who plan and carry out these crimes are influenced by sensational news coverage of prior attacks.
     
    Much as I dislike agreeing with the NYT, this is a good point (which many others have made too). However, the solution the MSM appear to be implementing is to sweep under the rug those incidents caused by POCs and ramp up publicity when the perps are white males. In this way they help create their reality, you know.

    In this way they help create their reality, you know.

    Which is their whole damn raison d’être.

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  87. @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    Interesting, and I partially agree. I think Hillary mostly lost because:

    1) As said, she has the charisma of a HR hag,

    2) People were tired of Obama's policies after eight years of mediocre administration and constant haranguing, and

    3) Her campaign insulted the voters with her endless ranting, and people voted out of spite. I was convinced at the time that Trump was too unconventional to win, until Hillary called his voters a "basket of deplorables". I still can't explain why exactly, but the moment I read that I had a sudden feeling that Trump had a chance of being elected.

    I was convinced at the time that Trump was too unconventional to win, until Hillary called his voters a “basket of deplorables”. I still can’t explain why exactly, but the moment I read that I had a sudden feeling that Trump had a chance of being elected.

    I agree with Steve that the murder of all those cops in Dallas put Trump over the top.

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  88. Anonymous[923] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Hillary lost because blacks who voted for Obama in the Midwest stayed home. Strange that the uncomfortable truth this exposes is seldom discussed.

    Not strange at all. Trump supporters want to believe that their guy won because of [reasons]. Democrats and libs can’t admit that “racially woke” midwest blacks voted for Obama only because he is black, and didn’t turn out in numbers for Hillary, because she’s white (the fact that this was expected pre-election doesn’t change the fact that it cost her).

    I expect the “black voter racist apathy cost Hillary the election” explanation to eventually find its way to the surface, once emotions settle on both sides.

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    While there is probably a lot of truth in your post, how do you suppose CNN and MSNBC will deal with the "racist black" angle?
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  89. Dissident says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Hillary lost because Trump pretended that he cared about immigration.
     
    Excellent analysis.

    I voted for Hillary, because I knew people who had done business with Trump, and I knew he was a con man. It is painful to see Ann Coulter suddenly realize she was HAD by a con man. But then, she got a lot of money out of believing Trump, so I can see how that might affect her judgment.

    Hm. Trump suddenly decides to go easy on China on trade matters when Ivanka gets thousands of new Chinese trademarks. Interesting coincidence. He even saves a company deemed to be a national security threat to the US.

    Hillary also lost because Trump pretended he cared about trade. After the election, Bernie Sanders offered to work with Trump to put together some more protectionist trade policies.

    **crickets**

    Oh, and those new tarrifs? How did that suddenly disappear?

    Sorry, but I can't see a dime's worth of difference between Trump and Jeb Bush.

    It truly pains me to say that. I knew Trump was a con man, but for the benefit of this country, I hoped he really would act as a nationalist rather than a Koch-brothers globalist.

    It is painful to see Ann Coulter suddenly realize she was HAD by a con man. But then, she got a lot of money out of believing Trump, so I can see how that might affect her judgment.

    What makes you so sure that Coulter ever really did believe Trump? Would you put it past the woman to have merely pretended to?

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  90. ic1000 says:
    @Almost Missouri

    "In the past the Times has joined other outlets in calling for less coverage [of mass shootings]"
     
    Back then they thought that the Dems were gonna own the government.

    Now it turns out that there are still a lot of deplorable Repubs in charge, so all negative events must be amplified and laid at their feet until the Revolution is complete. Only then can the media switch to its other function of amplifying good news and suppressing bad.

    Forward together comrades! Progress!

    Earlier this week (sorry, no time to find the link), the weekday CBS Evening News had a feature that I could only describe as violence pornography. A former deputy sheriff is cashing in on Current Year school shooting hysteria by marketing participatory shooting workshops to principals and administrators. The CBS News camera lets the viewer experience the adrenaline rush of the student shooter as he — or she! even middle-school African-American she! — roams through classrooms gunning down the sheep. Then, frowny-face reporter explores How Does It Feeeel? to be in the crosshairs of a (simulated) crazed mass murderer? Concerned teachers, administrators, and students recount their feeling of helplessness, and how it turns to rage at the failure of Trump and his lackeys to Solve The Problem.

    The media progressives are too cocooned to glimpse the conclusion that their porn invites flyover country proles to reach. Namely, if school-shooter terror is this justified and this widespread, let’s go full NRA and stock every kindergarten classroom with handguns. It’s our only chance at survival!

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  91. MarkinLA says:
    @Anonymous
    Not strange at all. Trump supporters want to believe that their guy won because of [reasons]. Democrats and libs can't admit that "racially woke" midwest blacks voted for Obama only because he is black, and didn't turn out in numbers for Hillary, because she's white (the fact that this was expected pre-election doesn't change the fact that it cost her).

    I expect the "black voter racist apathy cost Hillary the election" explanation to eventually find its way to the surface, once emotions settle on both sides.

    While there is probably a lot of truth in your post, how do you suppose CNN and MSNBC will deal with the “racist black” angle?

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  92. @CK
    It depends on which parts of the mass shooting they want less coverage of:
    1) The lack of male parental input of any kind in 26 of the last 28 shootings?
    2) The prevalence of anti-depressant drug use or the stopping of same in almost all of the shootings.
    3) The presence of FBI or DEA of SS agents among the family's of the shooters or in the school the same day or the previous day for " training ".
    4) The practice of legally turning the schools in free fire zones, by banning weapons of any sort for teachers, parents, adult students, and conspicuously posting the bans. Like announcing open season on the kids here.
    5) The last administrations arrangements to put an end to schools discipling troublesome students so as to avoid the "school to prison" pipeline; actually that is the playground/street corner to prison pipeline but the NYT is no longer known for delicate nuance.

    Good points.

    My point was that back when the NYT was publicly proposing that Big Media back off their promotion of mass shootings and lower the body count a little, they thought they were going to be in a Hillary/Dem world. Now that it is Trump/Repub they don’t care anymore: let the bodies hit the floor, as long as it hurts Trump!

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  93. BB753 says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Hillary lost because Trump pretended that he cared about immigration.
     
    Excellent analysis.

    I voted for Hillary, because I knew people who had done business with Trump, and I knew he was a con man. It is painful to see Ann Coulter suddenly realize she was HAD by a con man. But then, she got a lot of money out of believing Trump, so I can see how that might affect her judgment.

    Hm. Trump suddenly decides to go easy on China on trade matters when Ivanka gets thousands of new Chinese trademarks. Interesting coincidence. He even saves a company deemed to be a national security threat to the US.

    Hillary also lost because Trump pretended he cared about trade. After the election, Bernie Sanders offered to work with Trump to put together some more protectionist trade policies.

    **crickets**

    Oh, and those new tarrifs? How did that suddenly disappear?

    Sorry, but I can't see a dime's worth of difference between Trump and Jeb Bush.

    It truly pains me to say that. I knew Trump was a con man, but for the benefit of this country, I hoped he really would act as a nationalist rather than a Koch-brothers globalist.

    Trump pisses off all the right people. So he must be doing something that hurts the establishment. That can only be good. Better than four years of Hillary and then four years of Huma Abedin.

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    He isn't doing anything. So far, this administration just kind of by default is not ACCELERATING the displacement of the native stock.

    He hasn't done anything. Though he poses a danger of doing so.
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  94. Anon[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @BB753
    Trump pisses off all the right people. So he must be doing something that hurts the establishment. That can only be good. Better than four years of Hillary and then four years of Huma Abedin.

    He isn’t doing anything. So far, this administration just kind of by default is not ACCELERATING the displacement of the native stock.

    He hasn’t done anything. Though he poses a danger of doing so.

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  95. Trelane says:
    @Prof. Woland
    Speaking of HR, I have a son who is graduating from college and going into the corporate world. My experience is second hand and anecdotal but I have noticed a couple of things that are worth passing on. One is that people his age who can choose, are much more careful where they work. There is an understanding now that if you are white / male / straight your career prospects will be much harder and riskier at some places than others so assessing the "corporate culture" is more important than ever. That is also true for the type of work one does. Some of the more 'political' jobs are simply less safe from a career standpoint. If I can think of an analogy, it would be like the Soviet Union in the 1930's when it was much safer to be an engineer or doctor v. being in the government or the Party. This is also true on a geographical basis. Working in the silicone valley would have been like being in Moscow. It is where all the action is but it might be better to relocate to an area where the power is not so concentrated.

    Silicone valley? What do they do there, caulk windows and counter tops?

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  96. @Anon
    If someone who was widely read on twitter said I was an ape I’d be pretty mad too.

    What’s interesting about her father is that although he was a member of the communist party he was employed by the State Department during the height of the Cold War.

    And, he was sent to Iran when about 1/4 of the country was still occupied by Russia due to its invasion during WW2

    Hmmmmm still think Senator McCarthy was wrong?

    Let’s spread a rumor that she’s really White, just another Rachel Dolzeal

    If someone who was widely read on twitter said I was an ape I’d be pretty mad too.

    Mad enough to kidnap a woman and climb the Empire State Building?

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  97. @Stan d Mute

    For a real lack of visual intimidation check out the visage of Ms Cressida Dick, Commissioner of Metropolitan Police Service in London.
     
    The British have gone from having a good sense of humor to being the utter laughing stock of the world. Could they possibly be more pathetic?

    https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2017/04/10/16/cressidadick.jpg

    To be fair, both Jayne Meir and Cressida Dick would look pretty scary and intimidating if, for example, they were sat opposite you at an internal audit or an HR appeals tribunal.

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  98. MBlanc46 says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Maybe whites should try.....not being racist

    Just a thought

    Maybe Tiny Duck should try…not being anatine.

    Just a thought.

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