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Why Does Bill Belichick Play So Many Whites and Nobody Else Does?

From DailyKos:

NE Pats’ Belichick gets another white WR

By pravin
Friday Mar 11, 2016

From ProFootballTalk at NBCSports:

Bill Belichick has the NFL’s least diverse coaching staff

Posted by Michael David Smith on July 22, 2016, 2:44 PM EST

I’ve been writing about the now five time Super Bowl-winning coach’s penchant for white players for a long time, maybe a decade now. For example, in this Super Bowl, even with superstar tight end Rob Gronkowski out injured, Belichick’s white receivers (Julian Edelman, Danny Amendola, and Chris Hogan) combined for 17 receptions for 222 yards. Before Gronk got hurt, the Patriots would sometimes look like the 1986 NBA Boston Celtics and play four white receivers.

From the New York Daily News:

Hogan, who helped push New England to its second Super Bowl in three seasons by making nine catches for a franchise-record 180 yards in the AFC championship win over Pittsburgh, joins Julian Edelman and Danny Amendola as a trio of white pass-catchers forming the backbone of the Patriot receiving corps, an anomaly in a league where just one other team (the Green Bay Packers, with Jordy Nelson and Jeff Janis) even rosters as many as two white receivers.

They’re the latest products of an aerial assembly line made up of players the rest of the NFL might have considered spare parts, but even without injured tight end Rob Gronkowski, they’ve been more than enough for Tom Brady, who’s thrown at least two TDs in four of his last six games. And next Sunday in Super Bowl LI, they’ll aim to outdo the far more prototypical Atlanta Falcons receiving corps of Julio Jones and Mohamed Sanu.

Both Jones and Sanu are tall and acrobatic — and black, just like the majority of the skill-position players …

This is not a complete accident. Under Bill Belichick, the club has become known for gambling on stereotypical white receivers, players considered to be “workmanlike” “gym rats,” who bring “intangibles” and “high motors”.

They used to say in corporate America that nobody ever got fired for buying IBM, and in the NFL nobody gets fired for putting black players at the majority of positions. On average, black players are somewhat better than white players, so a general manager / coach has to worry about looking bad if he signs or starts white players.

For example, Belichick, like everybody else, always starts blacks at cornerback, the position most demanding of full-body athleticism. As far as I can tell, since Jason Sehorn retired after the 2003 season, no whites have started at cornerback in the NFL. (Belichick has occasionally used the highly athletic Edelman as a substitute cornerback.)

But Belichick isn’t worried about being fired, so he can consistently exploit the NFL’s modest race bias against whites to find undervalued players. Edelman was a 7th round draft pick, Amendola went undrafted despite having similar college statistics at Texas Tech as Wes Welker had a few years before. (Amendola had 204 receptions for Tech versus Welker having 259 for Tech.) Welker, who had been undrafted out of college, had led the NFL in receptions for three seasons under Belichick. So when Welker got a good contract offer from Denver, Belichick replaced Welker with Amendola.

This stuff isn’t real complicated.

Hogan was undrafted as well. Although that’s understandable because Hogan concentrated on lacrosse in college, playing only one year of football. Of course, it’s not a coincidence that Belichick was an old lacrosse player.

Some of this is luck, of course. For example, the Patriots didn’t pick even Gronkowski until the 2010 second round, taking Pro Bowl black defensive back Devin McCourty in the first round. (Gronkowski missed his final year of college ball with an injury so he was more of a risk when the draft came around.)

And if you read Belichick’s comments in 2001 after his now famous pick of Tom Brady in the sixth round, you can tell he had no idea he just picked the most valuable player in the history of the NFL. (If he’d had a clue he’d have picked him earlier rather than risk losing him.) Belichick just thought Brady looked a little more promising than the other long shots still available in the sixth round.

One possibility is that Belichick figures that white guys take a year or two longer to mature, so he can pick up guys later and use them during their mid-to-late 20s prime. For example, Belichick got three productive seasons out of Danny Woodhead, a rare white running back, from age 25 through 27.

The really interesting thing is that everybody more or less recognizes that Belichick has repeatedly made use of overlooked white players, but nobody ever says they’re going to imitate the most successful NFL coach since Lombardi. It’s another example of my observation that if you aren’t allowed to talk about something, it’s hard to remember to do it.

Our society talks constantly about not overlooking blacks, but it almost never talks about not overlooking whites. So, only the smartest guy in the NFL remembers to not overlook whites.

 
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  1. Steve,

    I strongly suspect that your thoughts on this topic will be further developed and expanded upon in the next online edition of American Renaissance, or at least they should be.

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    • Replies: @pyrrhus
    As I recall, the most intelligent players, in order, are offensive tackles, offensive guards, quarterbacks, and centers...Just a crazy hunch, but could this be where most of the white football players are found?
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  2. Belichick had a chance to personally scout Hogan when his son, a Rutgers lacrosse player, faced Hogan’s team in a game that the Coach attended.

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  3. With one possible exception, Belichick never has the most talented team on the Super Bowl field. He essentially fired his most talented defensive player mid season this year because the guy kept going rogue. He is the master of putting his talent into situations where the player’s talent can play and his limitations will not be exposed. Thus opportunity arises for white players as well as second tier black talent. We hear “Do your job” over and over again.

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    • Replies: @Carbon blob
    Patriots players 1-22 may not be the most talented in the NFL, but 23-53 definitely are by a solid margin year after year.
    , @HateCuisine
    "Why Does Bill Belichick Play So Many Whites and Nobody Else Does?"

    I think this is all related to the fact the Patriots are located in a "medium" size market. I.E. they're not the Cowboys/Yankees and do not have a large salary budget. Either that or Kraft is just plain cheap.

    As this is a very successful franchise, their top players tend to leave (free agency - more $$$). So, they desire to buy "talent" on the cheap. They get what they can afford.

    The KC Royals are another example of this phenomenon.

    Something along those lines is my personal explanation.
  4. Amendola went undrafted despite having virtually the same college statistics at Texas Tech as Wes Welker had a few years before

    Wes Welker was also undrafted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wes_Welker

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    • Replies: @DCthrowback
    He traded 2 2nd rd picks for Welker from the Miami Dolphins and, if you know BB & his love of 2nd rd picks, that was high flattery for Welker indeed.
  5. Hogan is from North Jersey, so there were some articles about him in the local press. He played Lacrosse in college because he got a scholarship to Penn State for it, but IIRC his high school football coach encouraged him to enroll at D-3 Monmouth U. in NJ after Penn State to play some college football.

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    • Replies: @JerseyGuy
    He is from Wyckoff, a ritzy part of Bergen County (which you obviously know). Patriots have seemed to mastered a moneyball style method of bringing out the best in the 2nd and 3rd tier players. As impressive as Billy Beane is, what Belichick and the Pats organization does is even more incredible.
    , @ganderson
    Did Hogan come out of the Delbarton lax factory?
  6. It’s another example of my observation that if you aren’t allowed to talk about something, it’s hard to remember to do it.

    Can you give other examples?

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    • Replies: @anonabana
    Of course, every time that someone....oh wait, damnit. I lost my train of thought.

    What was I going to talk about again?
  7. When watching the NFL, I’m generally conscious that it has morphed into the Negro Football League. While watching the Superbowl last night, I noticed there was something wrong with the Patriots: a lot of the players were the wrong color. Not PC … and I didn’t think that was allowed anymore. What’s with those people in New England?

    I’m wondering if a few commentators could take the Patriot’s historic comeback in Superbowl LI and reframe it as a “brains over brawn” victory or throw in some other caustic racial overtones.

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    • Replies: @markflag
    You've already done that.
    , @Negrolphin Pool
    You spelled felon wrong.
    , @ganderson
    "brains over brawn, well that might work for you
    but what's a Canadian farm boy to do
    what else can a farm boy from Canada do?"
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Jester, in December when the Bills played the Browns, Cleveland's starting QB was Robert Griffin the III, who sadly is a shadow of his former self. The Buffalo News printed an interview with the Bills corner back, Nickell Robey-Coleman and I will quote his take on RG III. "He wasn't just a regular African-American Quarterback, I felt like when he came into the league, he had the mental capacity as a Tom Brady type guy, when you hear him talk, he's so articulate, he's very intelligent..." Nickell, whose name rhymes with Michelle, is black, so this is an interesting perspective. Buffalo News, Sports section, Dec.17,2016.
  8. @TheJester
    When watching the NFL, I'm generally conscious that it has morphed into the Negro Football League. While watching the Superbowl last night, I noticed there was something wrong with the Patriots: a lot of the players were the wrong color. Not PC ... and I didn't think that was allowed anymore. What's with those people in New England?

    I'm wondering if a few commentators could take the Patriot's historic comeback in Superbowl LI and reframe it as a "brains over brawn" victory or throw in some other caustic racial overtones.

    You’ve already done that.

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  9. @Gringo
    Amendola went undrafted despite having virtually the same college statistics at Texas Tech as Wes Welker had a few years before

    Wes Welker was also undrafted.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wes_Welker

    He traded 2 2nd rd picks for Welker from the Miami Dolphins and, if you know BB & his love of 2nd rd picks, that was high flattery for Welker indeed.

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    • Replies: @phil
    Correction: Wes Welker was traded by Miami to New England for a 2nd- and a 7th-round draft pick.
    , @dr kill
    My Dolphins have long been a rich source of stars for other teams.
  10. One possibility is that Belichick figures that white guys take a year or two longer to mature, so he can pick up guys later and use them during their mid-to-late 20s prime.

    As a Bengals fan, I’m concerned that he’ll poach Rex Burkhead next.

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    • Replies: @Kyle a
    Yup.we all can't possess the temperament of PAC Man Jones.
  11. Should we expect to see the following headline in the NYT anytime soon: “Unleashing the Power of Whiteness: Will Trump Follow the Belichick-Brady Playbook to Make America Great Again?”

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  12. Bill Belichick has been playing Moneyball for years, and much more successfully than Billy Beane.

    Belichick has no problem signing flashy black receivers- he made great use of Randy Moss, after all . But he has a big problem with overspending on any player not named Tom Brady. He’d rather have one highly paid stud QB surrounded by 47 well paid, smart, functional players than 12 highly paid superstars surrounded by 35 minimum wage losers.

    That means Belichick will take 3 good, undervalued white receivers in the fourth round rather than one All-SEC receiver in the first round. More bang for his buck.

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    • Replies: @res

    But he has a big problem with overspending on any player not named Tom Brady. He’d rather have one highly paid stud QB surrounded by 47 well paid, smart, functional players than 12 highly paid superstars surrounded by 35 minimum wage losers.
     
    I think it's hard to argue Brady is overpaid. Also, the Patriots are notable for how many $4-8 million salary players they have. This article covers this and more:
    https://theringer.com/tom-brady-contract-restructure-patriots-super-bowl-e18ede48f08#.2s99vu2by
  13. @james wilson
    With one possible exception, Belichick never has the most talented team on the Super Bowl field. He essentially fired his most talented defensive player mid season this year because the guy kept going rogue. He is the master of putting his talent into situations where the player's talent can play and his limitations will not be exposed. Thus opportunity arises for white players as well as second tier black talent. We hear "Do your job" over and over again.

    Patriots players 1-22 may not be the most talented in the NFL, but 23-53 definitely are by a solid margin year after year.

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  14. @Dave Pinsen
    Hogan is from North Jersey, so there were some articles about him in the local press. He played Lacrosse in college because he got a scholarship to Penn State for it, but IIRC his high school football coach encouraged him to enroll at D-3 Monmouth U. in NJ after Penn State to play some college football.

    He is from Wyckoff, a ritzy part of Bergen County (which you obviously know). Patriots have seemed to mastered a moneyball style method of bringing out the best in the 2nd and 3rd tier players. As impressive as Billy Beane is, what Belichick and the Pats organization does is even more incredible.

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  15. they would not have won last night without their Black wide receiver.

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    • Replies: @res
    You mean James White? That is true, except for the part about him being a WR. He's a RB:
    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/02/super-bowl-51-new-england-patriots-atlanta-falcons-mvp-tom-brady-james-white
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Steve, I won't disagree with you, but the patriots as a team in the second half were far superior to the Falcons. I would love to have heard the half time dressing down or rah rah speech in the dressing room.
    , @George Almond
    Silly statement, no one knows one way or another seeing as how you wouldn't know who would have replaced him . The game would be completely different due to so many other variables being changed.

    I shouldn't have to explain this.
  16. So you’ve noticed too, eh Steve? Thought I was the only one. Seriously though, it’s hard NOT to notice. I’m only surprised that the MSM hasn’t made a bigger deal about it. That’ll change, though, in the present climate.

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    • Replies: @guest
    The MSM can't make a bigger deal out of it, because they're winners. But they do talk about it, in scolding tones. I imagine they talk about it more in the years the Patriots don't win the Superbowl.
  17. Would it be legal in the US to have a pro football league where the majority or all of the players have to be White?

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  18. Maybe because his coaching staff is the Whitest? Black assistants and staffers and scouts aren’t interested in White players?

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  19. What may be going on with the white receivers is a phenomenon I first saw articulated by Keith Norris, a trainer out of Texas. He played college football and while fast, wasn’t the absolutely fastest guy on the field. His experience was that the ridiculously fast guys, the very top end elite sprinters, had two things that worked against them in football. First, was that they have a tendency to be injury prone. The second is that they don’t seem to have as much endurance as the guys on the next level. They will absolutely beat you on a limited number of sprints but oftentimes they fade and their speed drops off due to fatigue. What Norris noted from experience is that there are some players who are really fast, though not necessarily the fastest in a single sprint, who can maintain that speed all afternoon. They seem to make the best football players.

    To put it into real numbers the three white receivers for the Patriots all run in the 4.5 range in the 40 which is fast but not the ridiculous numbers some of the defensive backs put up in the combines. Alford, for Atlanta, was listed as a 4.39 with a 40” vertical. What we may have seen in the 4th quarter is that by the end of the game the Patriots receivers were actually the fastest guys on the field. It certainly looked that way. Belichick may not look at it this way, he may simply see that they can get open and catch the ball when it’s thrown to them.

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    • Replies: @Sunbeam
    "What may be going on with the white receivers is a phenomenon I first saw articulated by Keith Norris, a trainer out of Texas. He played college football and while fast, wasn’t the absolutely fastest guy on the field. His experience was that the ridiculously fast guys, the very top end elite sprinters, had two things that worked against them in football. First, was that they have a tendency to be injury prone. The second is that they don’t seem to have as much endurance as the guys on the next level. "

    I played high school football in the south (team was about half and half racially). That is exactly true.

    I've brought up the injury prone thing about black athletes before on here, but no one was interested.

    Another thing is that for guys whose ancestry is from the tropics, blacks, American ones can't take heat. They will positively wilt on super hot sunny days in bright sunlight. The cramps start in a hurry. I don't have the slightest idea of what's going on with that, I'd figure it would be the other way. Blacks will sweat more in that situation, but they also seem to be more prone to heat prostration as well.

    I've actually theorized that an interesting way to beat Florida or any of the power recruiting southern schools is to:

    1) Play them very early in the season, with a kickoff as close to noon as possible.
    2) Run a ball control offense that grinds out yards and keeps the defense on the field (some kind of spread or option offense).

    While not talked about though, I'd imagine most of these coaching staffs are fully aware of how things work and avoid things like this though.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Bellichek also said his team's conditioning helped. The Falcons's defense was fast in the first half, but looked like they were out of gas in the fourth quarter. Maybe fast players tire more quickly. Bellichek is a great talent spotter.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    I think that football would be much more white if it ever returns to single platoon ball.
  20. Amendola’s dad – a HS Football coach naturally – sued the Dallas Cowboys for $1MM after a runaway golf cart smashed into him and carried him down the field at AT&T stadium following at state championship game.

    Hilarious story and video here: http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/12/dallas-runaway-golf-cart

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    • Replies: @SnakeEyes
    Hilarious and slightly ironic since the Cowboys signed Danny Amendola as a UDFA out of college. The Rams signed him off the Cowboys' practice squad before he played a down for them.
  21. But Belichick isn’t worried about being fired, so he can consistently exploit the NFL’s modest race bias against whites to find undervalued players.

    Sustainable Alpha

    http://blog.alphaarchitect.com/2015/08/17/the-sustainable-active-investing-framework-simple-but-not-easy/#gs.nsOxfMg

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  22. I have always found it fascinating that no one seems to follow the coaching model of John Wooden, despite his unmatched level of success.

    For example, Coach Wooden didn’t believe in recruiting. He would only consider players who had written to him expressing an interest in coming to UCLA. Part of this was a gentlemanly courtesy to other programs that might be in the recruit’s backyard, but the more significant piece of it was that it created a mystique around UCLA and made the top players want to go there.

    No one does this now.

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  23. Christian McCaffrey I wonder if he will be with the Patriots soon.
    Smart enough to sit out a meaningless exhibition game ( that makes him a quitter doesn’t it?).
    Best offensive player in college ball.
    Running back returner etc. etc..

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    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    And/or Toby Gearhart. Best player in college football in 2009. Drafted to back up the best RB in pro football. Languished on the bench his entire career despite great measureables and documented college performance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Gerhart

    Funny things seem to happen to white skill players who disrupt the narrative.
  24. The NFL is full of racial and social agendas, so I wouldn’t doubt that a good bit of the bias is just outright ideological racism. I’d bet that NFL owners, agents, scouts and front-office types are more likely to be SJW types than traditionalists. Who doesn’t know what type of people go into sports journalism? If the Soviets pulled out all the stops to build and showcase Socialist Man, I assume that their counterparts in the U.S. would do the same to build and showcase Multicult Man.

    The push for black QBs, coaches, etc. makes it obvious that the league isn’t only about winning, or being risk averse. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a white RB or CB given the starting job, and also given years (or a decade in the case of Mike Vick) to develop like many black QBs and coaches, who still often wash out. There is just too much invested by the PTB in promoting blacks and demoting whites throughout society to believe that something similar doesn’t happen in sports. Belichick gets away with what he does because blacks are so heavily overrepresented in sports, and because everyone believes that blacks are superior athletes. Otherwise he’d be forced to atone for his sins.

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    • Replies: @artichoke
    All you have to do is see the support from SF ownership and the Commissioner (hence the majority of other owners) for Kaepernick this season, and their consistent refusal to consider that declining attendance had anything to do with a boycott (being widely shouted by many fans) because of Kaepernick.

    It's obviously an SJW agenda in the league, and don't think those black players don't include a lot of anti-white sentiments either. That's come out too. I don't see how whites would go to games any more, except maybe for the New England franchise.
    , @Brutusale
    It's pretty humorous that all the Steelers fans I know truly believe that the Steelers would have a couple more Super Bowl titles if their coach wasn't Mike Tomlin, who they say is an affirmative action hire under the Rooney Rule, which was named after their former owner.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooney_Rule
  25. must be something in the water up there. the Patriots are loathed like another team from that area that was known to be a little to white for a professional sports club, the Bird led Celtics. Of course they were both loved by the home crowd. A few seasons ago the Minnesota Timberwolves were called out on their largely white team. The GM or owner was accused of hbd shenanigans if I recall correctly.

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    • Agree: PV van der Byl
    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    I also wonder if the voting patterns of the Pats and Celtics local fans mirror those of the NE region. The usual assumption would seem to be that you wouldn't find major differences between crowds of many thousands and the general population in the region. But maybe they could be significantly different. SWPLs are conspicuous in the Greater Boston area but they might not make up much of the Pats/Celtics fan base.
    , @guest
    Accused by morons of starting white players to appeal to white fans. Which is racist, because even racist white racists are smart enough to know that winning sells tickets, not a particular racial balance on the roster. Only an anti-white racist could think white racists are that racist.
    , @Gringo
    must be something in the water up there. the Patriots are loathed like another team from that area that was known to be a little to white for a professional sports club, the Bird led Celtics.

    The irony about labeling the Celtics as the white team in the 1980s was that the Celtics were the first NBA team to draft a black player, start an all-black five, and hire a black coach. It just so happened that Bird and McHale, white bread though they may have been, were among the best, if not the best, of their respective draft classes. Recall that Red Auerbach traded the #1 pick to the Warriors for their #3 + Robert Parish. Joe Barry Carroll was the #1 and McHale was the #3. McHale was definitely better than Joe Barry Carroll. Red had no regrets about that trade- not because of skin color, but because of value.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Another team that it seems to be A-OK to hate, hate, hate, is Duke University men's basketball. Home of Christian Laettner, Bobby Hurley, et. al. Funny how that works.
  26. @Desiderius

    One possibility is that Belichick figures that white guys take a year or two longer to mature, so he can pick up guys later and use them during their mid-to-late 20s prime.
     
    As a Bengals fan, I'm concerned that he'll poach Rex Burkhead next.

    Yup.we all can’t possess the temperament of PAC Man Jones.

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  27. Peyton Manning might have had 7 rings if he had had more light skinned players. White receivers make bad prima donnas.

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  28. @james wilson
    With one possible exception, Belichick never has the most talented team on the Super Bowl field. He essentially fired his most talented defensive player mid season this year because the guy kept going rogue. He is the master of putting his talent into situations where the player's talent can play and his limitations will not be exposed. Thus opportunity arises for white players as well as second tier black talent. We hear "Do your job" over and over again.

    “Why Does Bill Belichick Play So Many Whites and Nobody Else Does?”

    I think this is all related to the fact the Patriots are located in a “medium” size market. I.E. they’re not the Cowboys/Yankees and do not have a large salary budget. Either that or Kraft is just plain cheap.

    As this is a very successful franchise, their top players tend to leave (free agency – more $$$). So, they desire to buy “talent” on the cheap. They get what they can afford.

    The KC Royals are another example of this phenomenon.

    Something along those lines is my personal explanation.

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    • Replies: @Fredrik
    At least it makes for plausible deniability.

    I don't understand the sport but don't know if there's something strange here. Unless the white players are overrepresented near the end of the bench is quite likely that there are more whites on the Patriots team for reasons not that obviously related to race. The stars are who they are(until someone new shows up) but the bottom of the roster could easily be replaced. For them it's often the case of them fitting into a particular tactic or having some intangible. You see how this gives the coach some leeway?

    But wait: isn't the coach some evil Trump voter? That explains it...

    , @Oliver Ironside
    There's a hard salary cap in the nfl, with a floor and a ceiling on spending. Pats aren't exactly in a medium sized market either. Your analysis couldn't be any more worthless.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Hate, All the teams in the NFL have the same payroll, it's called a salary cap, which you can't exceed. The Patriots offered Chris Hogan about $4 million per yr to sign with them. Buffalo, which was up against the salary cap, offered Hogan about $1.4 million per yr and he left the Bills.
  29. Hogan benched 225lbs 28 times at the NFL Pro Day – more than any other wide receiver.

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  30. “One possibility is that Belichick figures that white guys take a year or two longer to mature, so he can pick up guys later and use them during their mid-to-late 20s prime.”

    A competing, or even complementary explanation is that if white players are underrated and overlooked, there is less risk in not selecting them early. If other teams are not clamoring to sign them, you can afford to give them time to mature and reach their potential.

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  31. It’s very similar to how Gregg Popovich pointedly avoids loading his roster with American ghetto blacks. Most of his players were in a different environment in their formative years, many of them overseas. The terrible basketball habits of American blacks are something we sports fans can’t talk about. Everybody in the media now raves about Gregg’s methods, but virtually nobody tries to emulate them.

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  32. It’s also a–mild–rebuke to the notion that “women and minorities” are “underrepresented” in for example Silicon Valley tech, because of discrimination. Sure, there may be–no doubt is–some bias based on (true) stereotypes. This case suggests that’s possible–at least if the bias is toward blacks. But it also suggests that even in a very limited market (32 firms), *someone* will take advantage. Some firm in Silicon Valley would be snapping up all these un\under-employed genius women programmers … if they in fact existed. In fact, by analogy some woman run firm, should be sort of waving the welcome mat, and filling their skilled tech positions with these underappreciated women.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    "some woman run firm, should be sort of waving the welcome mat, and filling their skilled tech positions with these underappreciated women"

    A bright Jewish refugee woman in the UK with the odd name of Steve Shirley did just that with FI Group. As they say over at Uncouth Reflections, 'couldn't do it now'. They were big in the 70s and 80s, when there were lots of women coding.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Shirley


    "After marriage to a physicist, Derek Shirley, in 1962, Shirley founded, with a capital of £6, the software company Freelance Programmers, (later FI, then Xansa since acquired by Steria and now part of the Sopra Steria Group). She wanted to create job opportunities for women with dependents, and predominantly employed women, with only 3 male programmers in the first 300 staff, until the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 made that practice illegal. She adopted the name, Steve, to help her in the male-dominated business world"
     
    She also gave away nearly all the money she got when she sold her company, so an altogether impressive figure.
  33. “It’s another example of my observation that if you aren’t allowed to talk about something, it’s hard to remember to do it.”

    It’s more that, if you aren’t allowed to talk about something, it’s too risky to do it. Even good ideas require a lot of iteration to make them actually work. A lone genius might make it work but you won’t get the cottage industry of imitators if there aren’t a dozen business books analyzing his methods, training seminars etc.

    That’s why you have conspiracies — vague hints don’t get results.

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  34. But Belichick isn’t worried about being fired, so he can consistently exploit the NFL’s modest race bias against whites to find undervalued players.

    Yes, this exactly what you’d expect in the corporate world if rampant “racism” and “sexism” were everywhere. Some more enlightened company would find all those undervalued women and minorities and blow away the competition. If liberals were correct, they should be going out there and starting companies and making a killing instead of clamoring for government intervention and media pressure to fix the diversity problem. But for course, liberals don’t do that, because their entire worldview is false.

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  35. @TheJester
    When watching the NFL, I'm generally conscious that it has morphed into the Negro Football League. While watching the Superbowl last night, I noticed there was something wrong with the Patriots: a lot of the players were the wrong color. Not PC ... and I didn't think that was allowed anymore. What's with those people in New England?

    I'm wondering if a few commentators could take the Patriot's historic comeback in Superbowl LI and reframe it as a "brains over brawn" victory or throw in some other caustic racial overtones.

    You spelled felon wrong.

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  36. @AnotherDad
    It's also a--mild--rebuke to the notion that "women and minorities" are "underrepresented" in for example Silicon Valley tech, because of discrimination. Sure, there may be--no doubt is--some bias based on (true) stereotypes. This case suggests that's possible--at least if the bias is toward blacks. But it also suggests that even in a very limited market (32 firms), *someone* will take advantage. Some firm in Silicon Valley would be snapping up all these un\under-employed genius women programmers ... if they in fact existed. In fact, by analogy some woman run firm, should be sort of waving the welcome mat, and filling their skilled tech positions with these underappreciated women.

    “some woman run firm, should be sort of waving the welcome mat, and filling their skilled tech positions with these underappreciated women”

    A bright Jewish refugee woman in the UK with the odd name of Steve Shirley did just that with FI Group. As they say over at Uncouth Reflections, ‘couldn’t do it now’. They were big in the 70s and 80s, when there were lots of women coding.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Shirley

    “After marriage to a physicist, Derek Shirley, in 1962, Shirley founded, with a capital of £6, the software company Freelance Programmers, (later FI, then Xansa since acquired by Steria and now part of the Sopra Steria Group). She wanted to create job opportunities for women with dependents, and predominantly employed women, with only 3 male programmers in the first 300 staff, until the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 made that practice illegal. She adopted the name, Steve, to help her in the male-dominated business world”

    She also gave away nearly all the money she got when she sold her company, so an altogether impressive figure.

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    38 Anonymous Nephew > She also gave away nearly all the money she got when she sold her company, so an altogether impressive figure.


    When I had some real money, I discovered that if you don't give it away, you're most likely to use it for stuff that makes you fatter, or more stuck up.


    I notice that iSteve is neither fat, nor stuck up. He's got a noticeable bit of a beer belly, but.... hey, you give the wife a new kitchen, it's gonna make itself felt.
    , @Sean
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Shirley
    In an interview she said "I have always had tremendous powers of attention". Her son is autistic.
  37. Someone should run some regressions to see if whites in the NFL are significantly underpaid compared with blacks in the same position and with similar stats.

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  38. Welker had a pretty good couple years with the Dolphins (the team I follow), but didn’t come close to putting up the numbers that he did with New England as a result of a combination of bad coaching and even worse QBs.

    Chris Hogan also got his start in Miami as an undrafted free agent. The Dolphins were on Hardknocks that year. Reggie Bush called Hogan “Seven-Eleven” because he was “always open.” He made the practice squad out of camp, and the GM, Jeff Ireland, recognized that he potentially had something, but he never got into any games and was ultimately cut. The Dolphins started Ryan Tannehill at QB that year, a guy who had only something like 10 college starts at QB before being drafted 8th overall. So Hogan probably would not have done much even if he made the team. He ultimately got picked up by the Bills where he wasn’t that great. Even this regular season in New England, he didn’t really set the world on fire.

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  39. I’ve been noticing that Offensive linemen are altogether getting whiter than they used to be. I wonder if anyone is keeping tabs on this with the amount of interest they did in curating whether enough quarterbacks were black.

    The white receivers with the exception of Gronkowski probably couldn’t rely on raw athletic ability, and therefore probably run routes correctly and make adjustments of a mind with Brady. The Pats sort of seem to have distinct offensive schemes that they can switch between and among with relative ease.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Alec, Jordy Nelson, of the Packers, is fast and runs great routes, and if I recall, he mentioned that the CBs didn't respect his white boy speed.
  40. One possibility is that Belichick figures that white guys take a year or two longer to mature, so he can pick up guys later and use them during their mid-to-late 20s prime.

    I’ve heard this too: blacks mature much earlier, so college recruiting coaches will be looking at them when they’re close to their prime compared to white counterparts.

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    • Replies: @LondonBob
    A familiar occurrence in football, the proper one. Youth teams blacks dominate but the senior teams remain white. European players only mature in their early 20s.

    Also black players lack stamina and game intelligence at the highest level.
  41. It would be interesting to do a full study of IQ as a success factor in the NFL.

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  42. Belichick fielded a SB team a few years back that had 10 white starters on offense. Belichick finds players that fit the Patriots system and discards with impunity any players that don’t or won’t play his way. Jamie Collins and Chandler Jones were All-Pro level defensive players that were traded this year pre and mid season. Amendola, Edelman and Hogan will go across the middle of the field, just yards from the line of scrimmage, and Brady hits them with a low fading pass that gains a first down and minimizes the hits they take. Hogan played two years in Buffalo and his Patriot playoff stats are better than his career stats with the Bills. Belichick and his staff don’t seem to overthink the game, unlike Jon Gruden who analyzes every play like it was a quadratic equation. Rex Ryan, the recently fired, and deservedly so, coach of the Bills, had 29 assistant coaches on his staff. I personally think Belichick gets close to the SB with Brady, Offensive Coordinator Josh Mc Daniels, Defensive Coordinator Matt Patricia and the rosters of most NFL teams.

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    I personally think Belichick gets close to the SB with Brady, Offensive Coordinator Josh Mc Daniels, Defensive Coordinator Matt Patricia and the rosters of most NFL teams.
     
    I have been wondering for a while whether Belichick or Brady would make a point of trying to win one without the other, since there will always be a debate as to whether it was the best coach of all time or the best quarterback of all time who is responsible for all of those Superbowls.
    , @Hibernian
    "Belichick fielded a SB team a few years back that had 10 white starters on offense."

    Sounds like the immediately pre-Lombardi Packers, circa 1958.
  43. Name 3 great Patriot players. I’ll wait.

    Brady and Gronk are the only great players on the Patriots. Nobody mistakes Lagerrete Blount for Jim Brown, or Julian Edelman for Jerry Rice. But all the players on the Patriots are good enough players, and most of them can do multiple things. They are smart and disciplined, and don’t make killer mistakes like holding that puts you out of field goal range.

    All the Patriot players interviewed after the game kept saying that Bellichek told them to take it one play at a time, do your job, never quit, etc. All players say that; the Patriot players believe it and do it.

    I agree that black players are better athletically than white players, but maybe Bellichek has found that white players are easier to coach up.

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  44. Hogan was undrafted as well. Although that’s understandable because Hogan concentrated on lacrosse in college, playing only one year of football. Of course, it’s not a coincidence that Belichick was an old lacrosse player.

    bill simmons wrote on espn a few years ago that he noticed a lot of big athletic white kids playing lacrosse, not football, in los angeles.

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    • Replies: @Marty T
    A lot of division 1 lacrosse players seem to be good high school football players, maybe division 3 level. Not a bad place to look for some later-maturing football talent.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    dsgntd, Those big white lacrosse players usually know they aren't going to play much football at a D-1 school, so they choose the sport they can star in. I watched the NYS Class AA lax championship game between Victor, NY and Ward-Melville from around Long Island. Victor, which won the game fielded a team with 12 D-1 commits, including their sophomore goalie, verbally committed to Cornell. Lacrosse teams play more games than football teams and substitute players on the fly. So, a good player, and NY produces the most, can have a fruitful college career, but not much of a chance of making a living playing the game. You can also play lax fall and spring and indoors.
  45. @Buffalo Joe
    Belichick fielded a SB team a few years back that had 10 white starters on offense. Belichick finds players that fit the Patriots system and discards with impunity any players that don't or won't play his way. Jamie Collins and Chandler Jones were All-Pro level defensive players that were traded this year pre and mid season. Amendola, Edelman and Hogan will go across the middle of the field, just yards from the line of scrimmage, and Brady hits them with a low fading pass that gains a first down and minimizes the hits they take. Hogan played two years in Buffalo and his Patriot playoff stats are better than his career stats with the Bills. Belichick and his staff don't seem to overthink the game, unlike Jon Gruden who analyzes every play like it was a quadratic equation. Rex Ryan, the recently fired, and deservedly so, coach of the Bills, had 29 assistant coaches on his staff. I personally think Belichick gets close to the SB with Brady, Offensive Coordinator Josh Mc Daniels, Defensive Coordinator Matt Patricia and the rosters of most NFL teams.

    I personally think Belichick gets close to the SB with Brady, Offensive Coordinator Josh Mc Daniels, Defensive Coordinator Matt Patricia and the rosters of most NFL teams.

    I have been wondering for a while whether Belichick or Brady would make a point of trying to win one without the other, since there will always be a debate as to whether it was the best coach of all time or the best quarterback of all time who is responsible for all of those Superbowls.

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  46. @Dave Pinsen
    Hogan is from North Jersey, so there were some articles about him in the local press. He played Lacrosse in college because he got a scholarship to Penn State for it, but IIRC his high school football coach encouraged him to enroll at D-3 Monmouth U. in NJ after Penn State to play some college football.

    Did Hogan come out of the Delbarton lax factory?

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  47. @TheJester
    When watching the NFL, I'm generally conscious that it has morphed into the Negro Football League. While watching the Superbowl last night, I noticed there was something wrong with the Patriots: a lot of the players were the wrong color. Not PC ... and I didn't think that was allowed anymore. What's with those people in New England?

    I'm wondering if a few commentators could take the Patriot's historic comeback in Superbowl LI and reframe it as a "brains over brawn" victory or throw in some other caustic racial overtones.

    “brains over brawn, well that might work for you
    but what’s a Canadian farm boy to do
    what else can a farm boy from Canada do?”

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  48. @DCthrowback
    He traded 2 2nd rd picks for Welker from the Miami Dolphins and, if you know BB & his love of 2nd rd picks, that was high flattery for Welker indeed.

    Correction: Wes Welker was traded by Miami to New England for a 2nd- and a 7th-round draft pick.

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  49. Belichick even found good use for a white Hispanic mass murderer. How come he doesn’t get credit for that?

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  50. For years leftists have been critical of the NFL for the lack of black coaches and quarterbacks…but they never complain about the lack of black punters and kickers. Although the record for the longest punt is held by an African American.

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  51. One of the unique things about football as a sport — and which makes it the most interesting for me — is its inherent complexity. It deploys 11 men on each side in every play, and bad play by any of them can be a disaster. It has many more moving parts, and each part has to “do his job” precisely for the team to succeed on any given play. Sports IQ plays a bigger role in football than in any other sport.

    As critical as speed may be, higher Sports IQ can easily become the winning factor.

    I think Belichick understands this, and chooses his players accordingly.

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  52. What a stupid article from an insecure man. Best QB (Brady), best TE (Gronk), best WR (Edelman) – WHO CARES IF THEY ARE WHITE?! Get over yourself.

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    I don't see color. I also don't see that Gronk's on IR.
  53. @HateCuisine
    "Why Does Bill Belichick Play So Many Whites and Nobody Else Does?"

    I think this is all related to the fact the Patriots are located in a "medium" size market. I.E. they're not the Cowboys/Yankees and do not have a large salary budget. Either that or Kraft is just plain cheap.

    As this is a very successful franchise, their top players tend to leave (free agency - more $$$). So, they desire to buy "talent" on the cheap. They get what they can afford.

    The KC Royals are another example of this phenomenon.

    Something along those lines is my personal explanation.

    At least it makes for plausible deniability.

    I don’t understand the sport but don’t know if there’s something strange here. Unless the white players are overrepresented near the end of the bench is quite likely that there are more whites on the Patriots team for reasons not that obviously related to race. The stars are who they are(until someone new shows up) but the bottom of the roster could easily be replaced. For them it’s often the case of them fitting into a particular tactic or having some intangible. You see how this gives the coach some leeway?

    But wait: isn’t the coach some evil Trump voter? That explains it…

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  54. @Kyle a
    must be something in the water up there. the Patriots are loathed like another team from that area that was known to be a little to white for a professional sports club, the Bird led Celtics. Of course they were both loved by the home crowd. A few seasons ago the Minnesota Timberwolves were called out on their largely white team. The GM or owner was accused of hbd shenanigans if I recall correctly.

    I also wonder if the voting patterns of the Pats and Celtics local fans mirror those of the NE region. The usual assumption would seem to be that you wouldn’t find major differences between crowds of many thousands and the general population in the region. But maybe they could be significantly different. SWPLs are conspicuous in the Greater Boston area but they might not make up much of the Pats/Celtics fan base.

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  55. @dsgntd_plyr

    Hogan was undrafted as well. Although that’s understandable because Hogan concentrated on lacrosse in college, playing only one year of football. Of course, it’s not a coincidence that Belichick was an old lacrosse player.
     
    bill simmons wrote on espn a few years ago that he noticed a lot of big athletic white kids playing lacrosse, not football, in los angeles.

    A lot of division 1 lacrosse players seem to be good high school football players, maybe division 3 level. Not a bad place to look for some later-maturing football talent.

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  56. We should also credit the NE defense. A score by Atlanta in the 4th quarter would have killed the rally.

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  57. @Realistic
    What may be going on with the white receivers is a phenomenon I first saw articulated by Keith Norris, a trainer out of Texas. He played college football and while fast, wasn’t the absolutely fastest guy on the field. His experience was that the ridiculously fast guys, the very top end elite sprinters, had two things that worked against them in football. First, was that they have a tendency to be injury prone. The second is that they don’t seem to have as much endurance as the guys on the next level. They will absolutely beat you on a limited number of sprints but oftentimes they fade and their speed drops off due to fatigue. What Norris noted from experience is that there are some players who are really fast, though not necessarily the fastest in a single sprint, who can maintain that speed all afternoon. They seem to make the best football players.

    To put it into real numbers the three white receivers for the Patriots all run in the 4.5 range in the 40 which is fast but not the ridiculous numbers some of the defensive backs put up in the combines. Alford, for Atlanta, was listed as a 4.39 with a 40” vertical. What we may have seen in the 4th quarter is that by the end of the game the Patriots receivers were actually the fastest guys on the field. It certainly looked that way. Belichick may not look at it this way, he may simply see that they can get open and catch the ball when it’s thrown to them.

    “What may be going on with the white receivers is a phenomenon I first saw articulated by Keith Norris, a trainer out of Texas. He played college football and while fast, wasn’t the absolutely fastest guy on the field. His experience was that the ridiculously fast guys, the very top end elite sprinters, had two things that worked against them in football. First, was that they have a tendency to be injury prone. The second is that they don’t seem to have as much endurance as the guys on the next level. ”

    I played high school football in the south (team was about half and half racially). That is exactly true.

    I’ve brought up the injury prone thing about black athletes before on here, but no one was interested.

    Another thing is that for guys whose ancestry is from the tropics, blacks, American ones can’t take heat. They will positively wilt on super hot sunny days in bright sunlight. The cramps start in a hurry. I don’t have the slightest idea of what’s going on with that, I’d figure it would be the other way. Blacks will sweat more in that situation, but they also seem to be more prone to heat prostration as well.

    I’ve actually theorized that an interesting way to beat Florida or any of the power recruiting southern schools is to:

    1) Play them very early in the season, with a kickoff as close to noon as possible.
    2) Run a ball control offense that grinds out yards and keeps the defense on the field (some kind of spread or option offense).

    While not talked about though, I’d imagine most of these coaching staffs are fully aware of how things work and avoid things like this though.

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  58. @Connecticut Famer
    So you've noticed too, eh Steve? Thought I was the only one. Seriously though, it's hard NOT to notice. I'm only surprised that the MSM hasn't made a bigger deal about it. That'll change, though, in the present climate.

    The MSM can’t make a bigger deal out of it, because they’re winners. But they do talk about it, in scolding tones. I imagine they talk about it more in the years the Patriots don’t win the Superbowl.

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  59. That 4th quarter catch be Julian Edelman was arguably the greatest reception in Superbowl history right up there with Lynn Swan’s leaping grab from Terry Bradshaw:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SiUNdkIwzQ&feature=player_embedded

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  60. @Kyle a
    must be something in the water up there. the Patriots are loathed like another team from that area that was known to be a little to white for a professional sports club, the Bird led Celtics. Of course they were both loved by the home crowd. A few seasons ago the Minnesota Timberwolves were called out on their largely white team. The GM or owner was accused of hbd shenanigans if I recall correctly.

    Accused by morons of starting white players to appeal to white fans. Which is racist, because even racist white racists are smart enough to know that winning sells tickets, not a particular racial balance on the roster. Only an anti-white racist could think white racists are that racist.

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  61. @HateCuisine
    "Why Does Bill Belichick Play So Many Whites and Nobody Else Does?"

    I think this is all related to the fact the Patriots are located in a "medium" size market. I.E. they're not the Cowboys/Yankees and do not have a large salary budget. Either that or Kraft is just plain cheap.

    As this is a very successful franchise, their top players tend to leave (free agency - more $$$). So, they desire to buy "talent" on the cheap. They get what they can afford.

    The KC Royals are another example of this phenomenon.

    Something along those lines is my personal explanation.

    There’s a hard salary cap in the nfl, with a floor and a ceiling on spending. Pats aren’t exactly in a medium sized market either. Your analysis couldn’t be any more worthless.

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  62. One point that I haven’t seen mentioned, but I think is true, is how it is that Brady was so much on top of his game despite being 39.

    I have always suspected that Roger Goodell actually did Brady a big favor by suspending him for the first four games of this season. This no doubt gave Brady legs in the brutal NFL season, especially considering his age. One thing that seems to be a consistent sign of an aging quarterback is that they play less well toward the end of the season than at the beginning.

    In general, one thing that seems surprising to me is that more substitution isn’t done in football. Obviously, the Atlanta defense at the end of the game wasn’t playing at the level it did at the beginning of the game. Why don’t teams routinely swap players in and out?

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    One point that I haven’t seen mentioned, but I think is true, is how it is that Brady was so much on top of his game despite being 39.
     
    And how he maintained it through the game. Peaking at the very end!
    , @Steve Sailer
    In his 30s Michael Jordan wouldn't show up for the preseason games. He'd use the first month of the regular season to get back in shape and then be at his peak in the playoffs.
    , @Hibernian
    "Why don’t teams routinely swap players in and out?"

    Because they don't have enough good ones. I'm a Packer fan, I know.
    , @SnakeEyes
    Brady's performance was unbelievable, especially for a 39 year old man.

    It reminded me of that baseball season when two players vied to break Roger Maris's single season record of 61 home runs. And they both did! One of them hit 70 home runs!! That was unbelievable too.

    Talk about not noticing stuff.
  63. @TheJester
    When watching the NFL, I'm generally conscious that it has morphed into the Negro Football League. While watching the Superbowl last night, I noticed there was something wrong with the Patriots: a lot of the players were the wrong color. Not PC ... and I didn't think that was allowed anymore. What's with those people in New England?

    I'm wondering if a few commentators could take the Patriot's historic comeback in Superbowl LI and reframe it as a "brains over brawn" victory or throw in some other caustic racial overtones.

    Jester, in December when the Bills played the Browns, Cleveland’s starting QB was Robert Griffin the III, who sadly is a shadow of his former self. The Buffalo News printed an interview with the Bills corner back, Nickell Robey-Coleman and I will quote his take on RG III. “He wasn’t just a regular African-American Quarterback, I felt like when he came into the league, he had the mental capacity as a Tom Brady type guy, when you hear him talk, he’s so articulate, he’s very intelligent…” Nickell, whose name rhymes with Michelle, is black, so this is an interesting perspective. Buffalo News, Sports section, Dec.17,2016.

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  64. @Astorian
    Bill Belichick has been playing Moneyball for years, and much more successfully than Billy Beane.

    Belichick has no problem signing flashy black receivers- he made great use of Randy Moss, after all . But he has a big problem with overspending on any player not named Tom Brady. He'd rather have one highly paid stud QB surrounded by 47 well paid, smart, functional players than 12 highly paid superstars surrounded by 35 minimum wage losers.

    That means Belichick will take 3 good, undervalued white receivers in the fourth round rather than one All-SEC receiver in the first round. More bang for his buck.

    But he has a big problem with overspending on any player not named Tom Brady. He’d rather have one highly paid stud QB surrounded by 47 well paid, smart, functional players than 12 highly paid superstars surrounded by 35 minimum wage losers.

    I think it’s hard to argue Brady is overpaid. Also, the Patriots are notable for how many $4-8 million salary players they have. This article covers this and more:

    https://theringer.com/tom-brady-contract-restructure-patriots-super-bowl-e18ede48f08#.2s99vu2by

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  65. @Steve Richter
    they would not have won last night without their Black wide receiver.

    Steve, I won’t disagree with you, but the patriots as a team in the second half were far superior to the Falcons. I would love to have heard the half time dressing down or rah rah speech in the dressing room.

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    • Replies: @SteveM

    I would love to have heard the half time dressing down or rah rah speech in the dressing room.
     
    Actually there is a lot of coaching done at halftime. Each position coach along with the coordinators make adjustments with his group. Simple things like a step inside or outside a key, keys themselves, modification to a blocking scheme, noticing if an opposing player cheats on his stance for some plays. Those insights from the assistants can turn a game.

    BTW, the extended half-times for playoff games make the real-time adjustment process even more important.

    I think it was great staff coaching rather than a rah-rah speech by Belichick that got it done for them.

    , @midtown
    Yeah, I was wondering if Belichick was going to rip new ones for his team or if he would go the encouraging route. Or, maybe just be technical. Maybe a combination.
  66. There are some who analyze football in a statistical way, like what saber metrics is for baseball. These football analysts point out that it’s not worth it for a team to draft a wide receiver in the first round. Teams that have done so generally haven’t done well in the subsequent football season. On the other hand, highly successful teams such as Green Bay and the Patriots get their receivers either further down in the draft or from trade or free agency. So it could also be that some football teams pursue the wrong headed strategy of drafting wide receivers in the first round in the college draft, where these players are likely to be black.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Julio Jones went 6th overall in the first round of the draft. That kind of WR talent requires top draft picks. The more interchangeable kind of route-runner goods hands types maybe not.
  67. @candid_observer
    One point that I haven't seen mentioned, but I think is true, is how it is that Brady was so much on top of his game despite being 39.

    I have always suspected that Roger Goodell actually did Brady a big favor by suspending him for the first four games of this season. This no doubt gave Brady legs in the brutal NFL season, especially considering his age. One thing that seems to be a consistent sign of an aging quarterback is that they play less well toward the end of the season than at the beginning.

    In general, one thing that seems surprising to me is that more substitution isn't done in football. Obviously, the Atlanta defense at the end of the game wasn't playing at the level it did at the beginning of the game. Why don't teams routinely swap players in and out?

    One point that I haven’t seen mentioned, but I think is true, is how it is that Brady was so much on top of his game despite being 39.

    And how he maintained it through the game. Peaking at the very end!

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  68. According to the “#notmysuperbowlchampion” and the political “resistance” movement against the New England Patriots, (with street demonstrations) because he is a racist, fascist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, fear mongering, hateful, “Trumpist.”

    The liberal progressive mindless madness is on full display at the below link:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/06/liberals-explode-vitriol-notmysuperbowlchamps-trends-social-media/

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  69. @HateCuisine
    "Why Does Bill Belichick Play So Many Whites and Nobody Else Does?"

    I think this is all related to the fact the Patriots are located in a "medium" size market. I.E. they're not the Cowboys/Yankees and do not have a large salary budget. Either that or Kraft is just plain cheap.

    As this is a very successful franchise, their top players tend to leave (free agency - more $$$). So, they desire to buy "talent" on the cheap. They get what they can afford.

    The KC Royals are another example of this phenomenon.

    Something along those lines is my personal explanation.

    Hate, All the teams in the NFL have the same payroll, it’s called a salary cap, which you can’t exceed. The Patriots offered Chris Hogan about $4 million per yr to sign with them. Buffalo, which was up against the salary cap, offered Hogan about $1.4 million per yr and he left the Bills.

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  70. @Alec Leamas
    I've been noticing that Offensive linemen are altogether getting whiter than they used to be. I wonder if anyone is keeping tabs on this with the amount of interest they did in curating whether enough quarterbacks were black.

    The white receivers with the exception of Gronkowski probably couldn't rely on raw athletic ability, and therefore probably run routes correctly and make adjustments of a mind with Brady. The Pats sort of seem to have distinct offensive schemes that they can switch between and among with relative ease.

    Alec, Jordy Nelson, of the Packers, is fast and runs great routes, and if I recall, he mentioned that the CBs didn’t respect his white boy speed.

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  71. A couple of years ago on Inside the NFL, Jason Whitlock caused an uproar when he pointed out that the Patriots specifically look for players who grew up with a male in the home. Their rationale was that such players respond better to having older men yell at them and tell them what to do all day. Obviously this meant a disproportionate number of black players would be excluded. The male role models didn’t have to be fathers, but stepfathers, uncles, older brothers, coaches who would fill a similar role. I guess they still do this. I’d like to see them draft Christian McCaffrey.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That was a part of the article about Russell Westbrook I linked to: his dad worked in a bread factory and came home and spent maybe 25 hours per week drilling young Russell in basketball. Westbrook has way over his Gladwellian 10,000 hours of coached practice at basketball.
    , @AP

    A couple of years ago on Inside the NFL, Jason Whitlock caused an uproar when he pointed out that the Patriots specifically look for players who grew up with a male in the home. Their rationale was that such players respond better to having older men yell at them and tell them what to do all day.
     
    Or, as a psychoanalyst would say, there is a higher likelihood of such players having resolved their Oedipus complex.
  72. @dsgntd_plyr

    Hogan was undrafted as well. Although that’s understandable because Hogan concentrated on lacrosse in college, playing only one year of football. Of course, it’s not a coincidence that Belichick was an old lacrosse player.
     
    bill simmons wrote on espn a few years ago that he noticed a lot of big athletic white kids playing lacrosse, not football, in los angeles.

    dsgntd, Those big white lacrosse players usually know they aren’t going to play much football at a D-1 school, so they choose the sport they can star in. I watched the NYS Class AA lax championship game between Victor, NY and Ward-Melville from around Long Island. Victor, which won the game fielded a team with 12 D-1 commits, including their sophomore goalie, verbally committed to Cornell. Lacrosse teams play more games than football teams and substitute players on the fly. So, a good player, and NY produces the most, can have a fruitful college career, but not much of a chance of making a living playing the game. You can also play lax fall and spring and indoors.

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  73. Pats have ridiculous schemes requiring adjustments at the line and after the snap depending on the positions and actions of every player on the line and the backers. You have to be highly intelligent to play slot/wideout/offensive lineman on the Pats because every defensive look is different and you have to pick it up and when he goes to where you should be, you better BE THERE, or else. Top that off with every opponent requires extensive film study and you come to the final reason Blacks don’t succeed in complicated themes: hard work. Failure to pick up the system has led to the cutting and awarding of a sandwich and a road map to many a Black wide receiver at the Pats.. They just don’t seem to have the smarts to play McDaniel’s system. I suspect Michael Floyd, picked up from Az. a few weeks back is a case in point. Percy Harvin from Indy came to camp, took one look at the playbook, retired. Ocho-Sucko, was another one. No good. Many Blaxx have passed through, they mostly don’t have it. And rest assured, when Belichick uses Blacks, they are high-football-IQ that at least grasp fundamentals.

    The Pats and Brady and the White receivers are playing Chess, the Falcons with their Black receivers were playing checkers, the Falcon’s schemes a bit more complicated than high school offense, but just barely. Matt Ryan is stuck with them, HE could do better, but his receivers, Black all, will never.

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    • Replies: @guest
    Makes me wonder how high Randy Moss' "football IQ" is. I can't say he's an idiot in regular life, but he does lack impulse control, which correlates with low-IQ. He often showed poor impulse control on the field, as well, but he also blew the game wide open and was one of top 5 best wide receivers ever to play. That couldn't have been all natural talent.

    Moss made it in the Belichik system, for a while at least. Is that because Brady, Belichik, and the coordinator Moss-ified their playbook, or did he catch on to that notoriously complex system? If so, how can there be such a wide apparent gap between football IQ and regular IQ?
    , @Binks007
    Jim:
    This is the most accurate and correct analysis. A couple of years ago, I remember a Patriot's drive - Looking at the field, there were no black players on the offensive side of the ball. I wondered, when was the last year that happened? Had to have been the 60's.

    Remembering a Dallas Cowboys drive before halftime this season: Dez Bryant makes a phenomenal catch to get them in range of a field goal as time is running out. Dez is so enamored with himself that he jumps up and begins to showboat and dance, spiking the ball. The problem is that time is expiring and the Cowboys only have one time out remaining. Instead of hurrying to the line, the Cowboys have to burn their last timeout to avoid the delay of game penalty for spiking (lucky to get away with it). Now with no time outs left, an easy completion in the flats, positioned for a chip-shot field goal. But the black RB decides to turn up field instead of easily stepping out of bounds to kill the clock. Time runs out in the half. The Cowboys come away with no points. Good players? Stars? Not very smart.

    BB does not tolerate this kind of stupid play. I know you all have similar observations. They happen so frequently in the NFL, it is making it hard to watch. Stupid play, unnecessary penalties and displays of uncontrollable and impulsive behavior that loses games.
  74. @Realistic
    What may be going on with the white receivers is a phenomenon I first saw articulated by Keith Norris, a trainer out of Texas. He played college football and while fast, wasn’t the absolutely fastest guy on the field. His experience was that the ridiculously fast guys, the very top end elite sprinters, had two things that worked against them in football. First, was that they have a tendency to be injury prone. The second is that they don’t seem to have as much endurance as the guys on the next level. They will absolutely beat you on a limited number of sprints but oftentimes they fade and their speed drops off due to fatigue. What Norris noted from experience is that there are some players who are really fast, though not necessarily the fastest in a single sprint, who can maintain that speed all afternoon. They seem to make the best football players.

    To put it into real numbers the three white receivers for the Patriots all run in the 4.5 range in the 40 which is fast but not the ridiculous numbers some of the defensive backs put up in the combines. Alford, for Atlanta, was listed as a 4.39 with a 40” vertical. What we may have seen in the 4th quarter is that by the end of the game the Patriots receivers were actually the fastest guys on the field. It certainly looked that way. Belichick may not look at it this way, he may simply see that they can get open and catch the ball when it’s thrown to them.

    Bellichek also said his team’s conditioning helped. The Falcons’s defense was fast in the first half, but looked like they were out of gas in the fourth quarter. Maybe fast players tire more quickly. Bellichek is a great talent spotter.

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    • Replies: @guest
    Generally speaking, defenses tire quicker than offenses. The Patriots controlled time of possession. As bad as they looked on the scoreboard in the first half, they had plenty of long drives that wore on the Falcons' gastank.
    , @midtown
    Yes, explosiveness is on one end of the spectrum; endurance on the other (Type 1 muscle fibers vs. Type II -- fast twitch). Ratio between the two types is mostly inborn, and most people are of course in the middle. The ATL defense was renowned for its speed and explosiveness, which is great for a while, but they necessarily run out of anaerobic energy after a while. The Patriots had the ball for more than 40 minutes. ATL wasn't horrible in the second half but they were noticeably slowing down.

    If we went back to platoon football, or just limited substitutions or timeouts, you would probably see a moderate amount of whitening of teams, especially on defense. Whites are the jack of all trades athletically and have a little more endurance than West African-descended blacks.
  75. @Steve Richter
    they would not have won last night without their Black wide receiver.

    Silly statement, no one knows one way or another seeing as how you wouldn’t know who would have replaced him . The game would be completely different due to so many other variables being changed.

    I shouldn’t have to explain this.

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  76. Green Bay is often the second whitest team in the NFL. They have had great success as well and won a Super Bowl with a half white team in 2011. Shame they did not meet New England in the SB this year.

    But the league is getting blacker as formerly white positions like QB and O-line become “caste” (meaning most coaches, owners and fans believe only blacks should play these positions because they are supposedly better athletes).

    Example? The LA Raiders had exactly 5 whites and 47 blacks on their roster this year. Even their punter was black. Of the whites, 3 were QBs and 1 was a kicker. They had exactly 1 white starter (QB). Their white coach, Jack Del Rio, did something similar at Jacksonville a few years earlier.

    Did you see any worried articles on this? No?

    I played a bit and the black players lobby the coaches to play “they boys” at QB and other positions even if a white athlete is better. Sometimes far better. White athletes are the same as whites everywhere. They know it and see it but keep their heads down. Better not to make trouble and hope for the best.

    And no coach or owner will ever get anything but plaudits from fans – including most white fans – for starting an almost entirely black team.

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    • Replies: @e
    We Raider fans know how many penalties we incurred too. This year, we survived them; usually, we don't.

    GM Reggie McKenzie has made every effort to hire "good citizens" and many of them are very involved Christians, like him.

    These aren't Al Davis' Raiders because of Reggie.

    Of course, just found out the Commish is allowing Aldon Smith to rejoin the team. I hope he can stay clean, but I can't rely on it.

    Now, if the NFL can just force Bowl Cut to sell...

    , @e
    The LA Raiders had exactly 5 whites and 47 blacks on their roster this year. Even their punter was black.

    AHEM: The OAKLAND Raiders, my friend.

    As for Marquette King, while he's not a bad citizen, he's a celebrity-wannebe and if he's not care, he's going to regret his social media habit.
    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Dallas is playing in that Superbowl with Romo behind center from the 12th game of the season on.
    , @Carbon blob
    It really is kind of ridiculous how folks insist that the racial distribution of QBs and coaches not mirroring that of the entire NFL population is prima facie evidence of racism.

    The main talent that matters is intelligence (and hand size for QBs), which are not areas where blacks have an innate advantage.
  77. @Buffalo Joe
    Steve, I won't disagree with you, but the patriots as a team in the second half were far superior to the Falcons. I would love to have heard the half time dressing down or rah rah speech in the dressing room.

    I would love to have heard the half time dressing down or rah rah speech in the dressing room.

    Actually there is a lot of coaching done at halftime. Each position coach along with the coordinators make adjustments with his group. Simple things like a step inside or outside a key, keys themselves, modification to a blocking scheme, noticing if an opposing player cheats on his stance for some plays. Those insights from the assistants can turn a game.

    BTW, the extended half-times for playoff games make the real-time adjustment process even more important.

    I think it was great staff coaching rather than a rah-rah speech by Belichick that got it done for them.

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    SteveM, Thank you. I think that the NY Giants made necessary adjustments at half time in SB XXV, the first of Buffalo's four straight losses and Buffalo probably drank Gatorade to cool the hot coppers from a week of partying. I have no idea why Marv Levy is in the football HOF, he was little more than a jingoist, quoting Shakespeare, while his undisciplined team lost for straight.
  78. @SteveM

    I would love to have heard the half time dressing down or rah rah speech in the dressing room.
     
    Actually there is a lot of coaching done at halftime. Each position coach along with the coordinators make adjustments with his group. Simple things like a step inside or outside a key, keys themselves, modification to a blocking scheme, noticing if an opposing player cheats on his stance for some plays. Those insights from the assistants can turn a game.

    BTW, the extended half-times for playoff games make the real-time adjustment process even more important.

    I think it was great staff coaching rather than a rah-rah speech by Belichick that got it done for them.

    SteveM, Thank you. I think that the NY Giants made necessary adjustments at half time in SB XXV, the first of Buffalo’s four straight losses and Buffalo probably drank Gatorade to cool the hot coppers from a week of partying. I have no idea why Marv Levy is in the football HOF, he was little more than a jingoist, quoting Shakespeare, while his undisciplined team lost for straight.

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    • Replies: @guest
    "Jingoist?"

    They lost four straight, but they also got there four straight times. That's nigh-impossible. (Then again, it was the AFC.)
  79. @Eric Ruttencutter
    A couple of years ago on Inside the NFL, Jason Whitlock caused an uproar when he pointed out that the Patriots specifically look for players who grew up with a male in the home. Their rationale was that such players respond better to having older men yell at them and tell them what to do all day. Obviously this meant a disproportionate number of black players would be excluded. The male role models didn't have to be fathers, but stepfathers, uncles, older brothers, coaches who would fill a similar role. I guess they still do this. I'd like to see them draft Christian McCaffrey.

    That was a part of the article about Russell Westbrook I linked to: his dad worked in a bread factory and came home and spent maybe 25 hours per week drilling young Russell in basketball. Westbrook has way over his Gladwellian 10,000 hours of coached practice at basketball.

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    Cris Collingsworth and James Brown were appalled at the unfairness and racism of the Patriots, but Whitlock seemed ok with it. They should've discussed whether it worked well or not. Just point and sputter and move on to next topic
  80. @A Reader From Chicago
    There are some who analyze football in a statistical way, like what saber metrics is for baseball. These football analysts point out that it's not worth it for a team to draft a wide receiver in the first round. Teams that have done so generally haven't done well in the subsequent football season. On the other hand, highly successful teams such as Green Bay and the Patriots get their receivers either further down in the draft or from trade or free agency. So it could also be that some football teams pursue the wrong headed strategy of drafting wide receivers in the first round in the college draft, where these players are likely to be black.

    Julio Jones went 6th overall in the first round of the draft. That kind of WR talent requires top draft picks. The more interchangeable kind of route-runner goods hands types maybe not.

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  81. @Marcus

    One possibility is that Belichick figures that white guys take a year or two longer to mature, so he can pick up guys later and use them during their mid-to-late 20s prime.
     
    I've heard this too: blacks mature much earlier, so college recruiting coaches will be looking at them when they're close to their prime compared to white counterparts.

    A familiar occurrence in football, the proper one. Youth teams blacks dominate but the senior teams remain white. European players only mature in their early 20s.

    Also black players lack stamina and game intelligence at the highest level.

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  82. Don’t buy the BS about black supa-affletes. WHOLE lotta politics goes into the current picture of big-time sports, both college and pro:

    http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/just-run-baby.15918/

    http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/comparing-apples-to-apples.16294/

    http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/overlooked-white-speedsters.15157/

    Most colleges and most pro teams are run by and for the cultural Establishment. It’s always interesting when something comes along that exposes their consensus wisdom for the sham it is.

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  83. @Steve Sailer
    That was a part of the article about Russell Westbrook I linked to: his dad worked in a bread factory and came home and spent maybe 25 hours per week drilling young Russell in basketball. Westbrook has way over his Gladwellian 10,000 hours of coached practice at basketball.

    Cris Collingsworth and James Brown were appalled at the unfairness and racism of the Patriots, but Whitlock seemed ok with it. They should’ve discussed whether it worked well or not. Just point and sputter and move on to next topic

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  84. @candid_observer
    One point that I haven't seen mentioned, but I think is true, is how it is that Brady was so much on top of his game despite being 39.

    I have always suspected that Roger Goodell actually did Brady a big favor by suspending him for the first four games of this season. This no doubt gave Brady legs in the brutal NFL season, especially considering his age. One thing that seems to be a consistent sign of an aging quarterback is that they play less well toward the end of the season than at the beginning.

    In general, one thing that seems surprising to me is that more substitution isn't done in football. Obviously, the Atlanta defense at the end of the game wasn't playing at the level it did at the beginning of the game. Why don't teams routinely swap players in and out?

    In his 30s Michael Jordan wouldn’t show up for the preseason games. He’d use the first month of the regular season to get back in shape and then be at his peak in the playoffs.

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  85. @Bernie
    Green Bay is often the second whitest team in the NFL. They have had great success as well and won a Super Bowl with a half white team in 2011. Shame they did not meet New England in the SB this year.

    But the league is getting blacker as formerly white positions like QB and O-line become "caste" (meaning most coaches, owners and fans believe only blacks should play these positions because they are supposedly better athletes).

    Example? The LA Raiders had exactly 5 whites and 47 blacks on their roster this year. Even their punter was black. Of the whites, 3 were QBs and 1 was a kicker. They had exactly 1 white starter (QB). Their white coach, Jack Del Rio, did something similar at Jacksonville a few years earlier.

    Did you see any worried articles on this? No?

    I played a bit and the black players lobby the coaches to play "they boys" at QB and other positions even if a white athlete is better. Sometimes far better. White athletes are the same as whites everywhere. They know it and see it but keep their heads down. Better not to make trouble and hope for the best.

    And no coach or owner will ever get anything but plaudits from fans - including most white fans - for starting an almost entirely black team.

    We Raider fans know how many penalties we incurred too. This year, we survived them; usually, we don’t.

    GM Reggie McKenzie has made every effort to hire “good citizens” and many of them are very involved Christians, like him.

    These aren’t Al Davis’ Raiders because of Reggie.

    Of course, just found out the Commish is allowing Aldon Smith to rejoin the team. I hope he can stay clean, but I can’t rely on it.

    Now, if the NFL can just force Bowl Cut to sell…

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  86. @Bernie
    Green Bay is often the second whitest team in the NFL. They have had great success as well and won a Super Bowl with a half white team in 2011. Shame they did not meet New England in the SB this year.

    But the league is getting blacker as formerly white positions like QB and O-line become "caste" (meaning most coaches, owners and fans believe only blacks should play these positions because they are supposedly better athletes).

    Example? The LA Raiders had exactly 5 whites and 47 blacks on their roster this year. Even their punter was black. Of the whites, 3 were QBs and 1 was a kicker. They had exactly 1 white starter (QB). Their white coach, Jack Del Rio, did something similar at Jacksonville a few years earlier.

    Did you see any worried articles on this? No?

    I played a bit and the black players lobby the coaches to play "they boys" at QB and other positions even if a white athlete is better. Sometimes far better. White athletes are the same as whites everywhere. They know it and see it but keep their heads down. Better not to make trouble and hope for the best.

    And no coach or owner will ever get anything but plaudits from fans - including most white fans - for starting an almost entirely black team.

    The LA Raiders had exactly 5 whites and 47 blacks on their roster this year. Even their punter was black.

    AHEM: The OAKLAND Raiders, my friend.

    As for Marquette King, while he’s not a bad citizen, he’s a celebrity-wannebe and if he’s not care, he’s going to regret his social media habit.

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  87. @Bernie
    Green Bay is often the second whitest team in the NFL. They have had great success as well and won a Super Bowl with a half white team in 2011. Shame they did not meet New England in the SB this year.

    But the league is getting blacker as formerly white positions like QB and O-line become "caste" (meaning most coaches, owners and fans believe only blacks should play these positions because they are supposedly better athletes).

    Example? The LA Raiders had exactly 5 whites and 47 blacks on their roster this year. Even their punter was black. Of the whites, 3 were QBs and 1 was a kicker. They had exactly 1 white starter (QB). Their white coach, Jack Del Rio, did something similar at Jacksonville a few years earlier.

    Did you see any worried articles on this? No?

    I played a bit and the black players lobby the coaches to play "they boys" at QB and other positions even if a white athlete is better. Sometimes far better. White athletes are the same as whites everywhere. They know it and see it but keep their heads down. Better not to make trouble and hope for the best.

    And no coach or owner will ever get anything but plaudits from fans - including most white fans - for starting an almost entirely black team.

    Dallas is playing in that Superbowl with Romo behind center from the 12th game of the season on.

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    preferred, When I watched Green Bay barely beat Dallas in the NFC playoffs I thought that was one of the best games I have ever seen. Then Atlanta demolished GB and I thought the Falcons were legit. They were the real deal for one half of the Super Bowl, but the wrong half. I don't think Dallas and Dak fare any better than Matt and Atlanta.
    , @Binks007
    I think you are correct. There were many opportunities in the last half of the season that Romo would have likely exploited. A Rookie, with limited ability to read coverage, couldn't. But Dallas would have never lived down the certain cries of racism and prejudice that would have followed the benching of Dak Prescott. It absolutely cost Dallas and Tony Romo a trip to the Super Bowl.
    Going forward, Dak will have to improve in the mental aspects, if the Cowboys are to go any deeper in the playoffs.
  88. @Jim Christian
    Pats have ridiculous schemes requiring adjustments at the line and after the snap depending on the positions and actions of every player on the line and the backers. You have to be highly intelligent to play slot/wideout/offensive lineman on the Pats because every defensive look is different and you have to pick it up and when he goes to where you should be, you better BE THERE, or else. Top that off with every opponent requires extensive film study and you come to the final reason Blacks don't succeed in complicated themes: hard work. Failure to pick up the system has led to the cutting and awarding of a sandwich and a road map to many a Black wide receiver at the Pats.. They just don't seem to have the smarts to play McDaniel's system. I suspect Michael Floyd, picked up from Az. a few weeks back is a case in point. Percy Harvin from Indy came to camp, took one look at the playbook, retired. Ocho-Sucko, was another one. No good. Many Blaxx have passed through, they mostly don't have it. And rest assured, when Belichick uses Blacks, they are high-football-IQ that at least grasp fundamentals.

    The Pats and Brady and the White receivers are playing Chess, the Falcons with their Black receivers were playing checkers, the Falcon's schemes a bit more complicated than high school offense, but just barely. Matt Ryan is stuck with them, HE could do better, but his receivers, Black all, will never.

    Makes me wonder how high Randy Moss’ “football IQ” is. I can’t say he’s an idiot in regular life, but he does lack impulse control, which correlates with low-IQ. He often showed poor impulse control on the field, as well, but he also blew the game wide open and was one of top 5 best wide receivers ever to play. That couldn’t have been all natural talent.

    Moss made it in the Belichik system, for a while at least. Is that because Brady, Belichik, and the coordinator Moss-ified their playbook, or did he catch on to that notoriously complex system? If so, how can there be such a wide apparent gap between football IQ and regular IQ?

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    "he also blew the game wide open"

    I should give credit where credit is due and note Terell Owens got there first, doing much the same things Moss did. Whatever happened to the fast, basketball-tall, high-leaping wide receiver and the "home run throw" of late-90s-00s? I realize those types persist, but it's not as prevalent as it used to be.
    , @Gringo
    Makes me wonder how high Randy Moss’ “football IQ” is.

    Don't take my word for it. Here is what Bill Belichick had to say.Randy Moss draws high praise from Bill Belichick.


    Three seasons have passed since Randy Moss, in a Patriots uniform, caught 83 passes for 1,264 yards and 13 touchdowns.

    The 35-year-old Moss is now a depth receiver with the 49ers...
    “He’s the greatest deep-ball receiver I think that’s ever played,” Bill Belichick said Wednesday during a conference call with San Francisco reporters. “Nobody runs better patterns, better at the deep part of the field, than Randy Moss can. I still see him doing that. You have to respect his ability to stretch the field so deep and get behind you. It’s hard to take that away and defend everything else that he can do. He’s an explosive, dynamic player. Probably the smartest receiver I’ve ever coached. I know he absolutely knows what he’s doing, knows what the defense is doing.”

     

    However,his respect for Moss didn't stop Belichick from getting rid of Moss when Moss's remarks to the press indicated he was more concerned with his contract the following year than with doing his job from game to game.
    , @Jim Christian
    Moss, TO, that ilk were speed guys, tall, big hands, little brains. Go-Long types, maybe with the occasional ability to break off the pattern IF they recognize the proper circumstances guys like Amendola, Edelman, Gronk and Hogan and the rest of them do routinely. These guys all have layers of responsibility to recognize and react to, all in sync with Brady. These are all guys that actually graduated college with real degrees. That tells me about their IQ, tells me about their ability to play with Brady.

    I suppose the highest-IQ Blacks in the NFL are actually the best of the corners and safeties, Sherman of Seattle, Revis come to mind, several others, in spite of their antics. The best corners are drudges when it comes to study, to recognizing and reacting to tendencies, to knowing opponents' moves before they make them, all a result of exhaustive study of each week's receivers, QBs and running backs and offensive coach's theories. You don't do all that and become a good cover guy without high IQ and, they're all Black. And that may be where all the high IQ Black slot receivers are located--on Defense, covering those smart, swivel-hipped White boys on offense, heh.
  89. @Jim Don Bob
    Bellichek also said his team's conditioning helped. The Falcons's defense was fast in the first half, but looked like they were out of gas in the fourth quarter. Maybe fast players tire more quickly. Bellichek is a great talent spotter.

    Generally speaking, defenses tire quicker than offenses. The Patriots controlled time of possession. As bad as they looked on the scoreboard in the first half, they had plenty of long drives that wore on the Falcons’ gastank.

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    guest, Yes, the defenses wear out before the offense. Multiple receiver sets and receivers and backs shuttle in and out. Sometimes two tight ends and empty backfields and the same pair of cornerbacks on the field for almost every play. Cornerbacks can make or break your team and there are not a lot of great ones.
  90. @Buffalo Joe
    SteveM, Thank you. I think that the NY Giants made necessary adjustments at half time in SB XXV, the first of Buffalo's four straight losses and Buffalo probably drank Gatorade to cool the hot coppers from a week of partying. I have no idea why Marv Levy is in the football HOF, he was little more than a jingoist, quoting Shakespeare, while his undisciplined team lost for straight.

    “Jingoist?”

    They lost four straight, but they also got there four straight times. That’s nigh-impossible. (Then again, it was the AFC.)

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Guest. Here's to Marv, old wonderful Marv, His bust is in the Hall. He chews gum hard and quotes the Bard. Four Super Bowls, Lost them all. Ted Marchibroda was the coach on the field and Bill Polian was the architect that assembled the team. Multiple Bills players have stated that Levy let the team run wild for the week before Super Bowl. How do you lose four in a row?
  91. @guest
    Makes me wonder how high Randy Moss' "football IQ" is. I can't say he's an idiot in regular life, but he does lack impulse control, which correlates with low-IQ. He often showed poor impulse control on the field, as well, but he also blew the game wide open and was one of top 5 best wide receivers ever to play. That couldn't have been all natural talent.

    Moss made it in the Belichik system, for a while at least. Is that because Brady, Belichik, and the coordinator Moss-ified their playbook, or did he catch on to that notoriously complex system? If so, how can there be such a wide apparent gap between football IQ and regular IQ?

    “he also blew the game wide open”

    I should give credit where credit is due and note Terell Owens got there first, doing much the same things Moss did. Whatever happened to the fast, basketball-tall, high-leaping wide receiver and the “home run throw” of late-90s-00s? I realize those types persist, but it’s not as prevalent as it used to be.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Julio Jones of Atlanta.

    They even put him in on defense in a Patriot Hail Mary situation because he can get his hands higher off the ground than anybody else in the stadium.

  92. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Dallas is playing in that Superbowl with Romo behind center from the 12th game of the season on.

    preferred, When I watched Green Bay barely beat Dallas in the NFC playoffs I thought that was one of the best games I have ever seen. Then Atlanta demolished GB and I thought the Falcons were legit. They were the real deal for one half of the Super Bowl, but the wrong half. I don’t think Dallas and Dak fare any better than Matt and Atlanta.

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  93. @guest
    Generally speaking, defenses tire quicker than offenses. The Patriots controlled time of possession. As bad as they looked on the scoreboard in the first half, they had plenty of long drives that wore on the Falcons' gastank.

    guest, Yes, the defenses wear out before the offense. Multiple receiver sets and receivers and backs shuttle in and out. Sometimes two tight ends and empty backfields and the same pair of cornerbacks on the field for almost every play. Cornerbacks can make or break your team and there are not a lot of great ones.

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  94. @guest
    "he also blew the game wide open"

    I should give credit where credit is due and note Terell Owens got there first, doing much the same things Moss did. Whatever happened to the fast, basketball-tall, high-leaping wide receiver and the "home run throw" of late-90s-00s? I realize those types persist, but it's not as prevalent as it used to be.

    Julio Jones of Atlanta.

    They even put him in on defense in a Patriot Hail Mary situation because he can get his hands higher off the ground than anybody else in the stadium.

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  95. @guest
    "Jingoist?"

    They lost four straight, but they also got there four straight times. That's nigh-impossible. (Then again, it was the AFC.)

    Guest. Here’s to Marv, old wonderful Marv, His bust is in the Hall. He chews gum hard and quotes the Bard. Four Super Bowls, Lost them all. Ted Marchibroda was the coach on the field and Bill Polian was the architect that assembled the team. Multiple Bills players have stated that Levy let the team run wild for the week before Super Bowl. How do you lose four in a row?

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    How do you lose four in a row?
     
    It's really very simple, the Bills' 4 year run as the best team in the AFC occurred at a time when the NFC was incredibly dominant over the AFC. The NFC won 12 Super Bowls in a row between 1985 and 1997, most by lopsided scores.
  96. Would have loved to see Rice’s James Casey in the hands of the New England staff. He came into the NFL as a mature adult with a broad skill set and an H-back physique. The teams that had him paid him well, but his in betweener body left him as one of the most expensive special teams players in the league.

    Patriots would have found a way to exploit his talents, I’m sure, as he was an atypical player that was hard to categorize. They weren’t going to pay $4 mm / year to do it, though.

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  97. @Kyle a
    must be something in the water up there. the Patriots are loathed like another team from that area that was known to be a little to white for a professional sports club, the Bird led Celtics. Of course they were both loved by the home crowd. A few seasons ago the Minnesota Timberwolves were called out on their largely white team. The GM or owner was accused of hbd shenanigans if I recall correctly.

    must be something in the water up there. the Patriots are loathed like another team from that area that was known to be a little to white for a professional sports club, the Bird led Celtics.

    The irony about labeling the Celtics as the white team in the 1980s was that the Celtics were the first NBA team to draft a black player, start an all-black five, and hire a black coach. It just so happened that Bird and McHale, white bread though they may have been, were among the best, if not the best, of their respective draft classes. Recall that Red Auerbach traded the #1 pick to the Warriors for their #3 + Robert Parish. Joe Barry Carroll was the #1 and McHale was the #3. McHale was definitely better than Joe Barry Carroll. Red had no regrets about that trade- not because of skin color, but because of value.

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  98. @guest
    Makes me wonder how high Randy Moss' "football IQ" is. I can't say he's an idiot in regular life, but he does lack impulse control, which correlates with low-IQ. He often showed poor impulse control on the field, as well, but he also blew the game wide open and was one of top 5 best wide receivers ever to play. That couldn't have been all natural talent.

    Moss made it in the Belichik system, for a while at least. Is that because Brady, Belichik, and the coordinator Moss-ified their playbook, or did he catch on to that notoriously complex system? If so, how can there be such a wide apparent gap between football IQ and regular IQ?

    Makes me wonder how high Randy Moss’ “football IQ” is.

    Don’t take my word for it. Here is what Bill Belichick had to say.Randy Moss draws high praise from Bill Belichick.

    Three seasons have passed since Randy Moss, in a Patriots uniform, caught 83 passes for 1,264 yards and 13 touchdowns.

    The 35-year-old Moss is now a depth receiver with the 49ers…
    “He’s the greatest deep-ball receiver I think that’s ever played,” Bill Belichick said Wednesday during a conference call with San Francisco reporters. “Nobody runs better patterns, better at the deep part of the field, than Randy Moss can. I still see him doing that. You have to respect his ability to stretch the field so deep and get behind you. It’s hard to take that away and defend everything else that he can do. He’s an explosive, dynamic player. Probably the smartest receiver I’ve ever coached. I know he absolutely knows what he’s doing, knows what the defense is doing.”

    However,his respect for Moss didn’t stop Belichick from getting rid of Moss when Moss’s remarks to the press indicated he was more concerned with his contract the following year than with doing his job from game to game.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I've heard Randy Moss is a good TV analyst teaming with Steve Young.
    , @Jim Christian
    What else is Belichick to say when asked? Sorry, too many Welkers, Gronks and Edelmans have passed through the New England rosters to consider Moss the best and brightest. Top it off, he was half-a-psycho to boot.
    , @Marty T
    Whatever else you want to say about Moss, he doesnt sound unintelligent.
  99. @Buffalo Joe
    Guest. Here's to Marv, old wonderful Marv, His bust is in the Hall. He chews gum hard and quotes the Bard. Four Super Bowls, Lost them all. Ted Marchibroda was the coach on the field and Bill Polian was the architect that assembled the team. Multiple Bills players have stated that Levy let the team run wild for the week before Super Bowl. How do you lose four in a row?

    How do you lose four in a row?

    It’s really very simple, the Bills’ 4 year run as the best team in the AFC occurred at a time when the NFC was incredibly dominant over the AFC. The NFC won 12 Super Bowls in a row between 1985 and 1997, most by lopsided scores.

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  100. Edelman’s up there with Koufax now on the list of Famous Jewish Sports Legends.

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    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    Greatest Jewish athlete since Samson.
    , @James Braxton
    Not quite Jewish.

    http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=706
  101. @Eric Ruttencutter
    A couple of years ago on Inside the NFL, Jason Whitlock caused an uproar when he pointed out that the Patriots specifically look for players who grew up with a male in the home. Their rationale was that such players respond better to having older men yell at them and tell them what to do all day. Obviously this meant a disproportionate number of black players would be excluded. The male role models didn't have to be fathers, but stepfathers, uncles, older brothers, coaches who would fill a similar role. I guess they still do this. I'd like to see them draft Christian McCaffrey.

    A couple of years ago on Inside the NFL, Jason Whitlock caused an uproar when he pointed out that the Patriots specifically look for players who grew up with a male in the home. Their rationale was that such players respond better to having older men yell at them and tell them what to do all day.

    Or, as a psychoanalyst would say, there is a higher likelihood of such players having resolved their Oedipus complex.

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  102. @Tyrell
    What a stupid article from an insecure man. Best QB (Brady), best TE (Gronk), best WR (Edelman) - WHO CARES IF THEY ARE WHITE?! Get over yourself.

    I don’t see color. I also don’t see that Gronk’s on IR.

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  103. @Gringo
    Makes me wonder how high Randy Moss’ “football IQ” is.

    Don't take my word for it. Here is what Bill Belichick had to say.Randy Moss draws high praise from Bill Belichick.


    Three seasons have passed since Randy Moss, in a Patriots uniform, caught 83 passes for 1,264 yards and 13 touchdowns.

    The 35-year-old Moss is now a depth receiver with the 49ers...
    “He’s the greatest deep-ball receiver I think that’s ever played,” Bill Belichick said Wednesday during a conference call with San Francisco reporters. “Nobody runs better patterns, better at the deep part of the field, than Randy Moss can. I still see him doing that. You have to respect his ability to stretch the field so deep and get behind you. It’s hard to take that away and defend everything else that he can do. He’s an explosive, dynamic player. Probably the smartest receiver I’ve ever coached. I know he absolutely knows what he’s doing, knows what the defense is doing.”

     

    However,his respect for Moss didn't stop Belichick from getting rid of Moss when Moss's remarks to the press indicated he was more concerned with his contract the following year than with doing his job from game to game.

    I’ve heard Randy Moss is a good TV analyst teaming with Steve Young.

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  104. @CK
    Christian McCaffrey I wonder if he will be with the Patriots soon.
    Smart enough to sit out a meaningless exhibition game ( that makes him a quitter doesn't it?).
    Best offensive player in college ball.
    Running back returner etc. etc..

    And/or Toby Gearhart. Best player in college football in 2009. Drafted to back up the best RB in pro football. Languished on the bench his entire career despite great measureables and documented college performance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Gerhart

    Funny things seem to happen to white skill players who disrupt the narrative.

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    • Replies: @guest
    That was a special situation, however. I wouldn't mind blocking for one of the best running backs in NFL history, plus getting to score touchdowns instead of him in goal-line situations.
    , @Truth



    Funny things seem to happen to white skill players who disrupt the narrative.
     
    Yeah, a funny think happened to Gerhart, Jimmer Fredette, and Adam Morrison...

    They sucked.
  105. @Kyle a
    must be something in the water up there. the Patriots are loathed like another team from that area that was known to be a little to white for a professional sports club, the Bird led Celtics. Of course they were both loved by the home crowd. A few seasons ago the Minnesota Timberwolves were called out on their largely white team. The GM or owner was accused of hbd shenanigans if I recall correctly.

    Another team that it seems to be A-OK to hate, hate, hate, is Duke University men’s basketball. Home of Christian Laettner, Bobby Hurley, et. al. Funny how that works.

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  106. @snorlax
    Edelman's up there with Koufax now on the list of Famous Jewish Sports Legends.

    Greatest Jewish athlete since Samson.

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  107. @Buffalo Joe
    preferred, When I watched Green Bay barely beat Dallas in the NFC playoffs I thought that was one of the best games I have ever seen. Then Atlanta demolished GB and I thought the Falcons were legit. They were the real deal for one half of the Super Bowl, but the wrong half. I don't think Dallas and Dak fare any better than Matt and Atlanta.

    I said Romo behind center not Dak.

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    Preferred, Sorry, yes you said Romo not Presott, but Romo wasn't going to play in that game if it happened.
  108. @Bernie
    Green Bay is often the second whitest team in the NFL. They have had great success as well and won a Super Bowl with a half white team in 2011. Shame they did not meet New England in the SB this year.

    But the league is getting blacker as formerly white positions like QB and O-line become "caste" (meaning most coaches, owners and fans believe only blacks should play these positions because they are supposedly better athletes).

    Example? The LA Raiders had exactly 5 whites and 47 blacks on their roster this year. Even their punter was black. Of the whites, 3 were QBs and 1 was a kicker. They had exactly 1 white starter (QB). Their white coach, Jack Del Rio, did something similar at Jacksonville a few years earlier.

    Did you see any worried articles on this? No?

    I played a bit and the black players lobby the coaches to play "they boys" at QB and other positions even if a white athlete is better. Sometimes far better. White athletes are the same as whites everywhere. They know it and see it but keep their heads down. Better not to make trouble and hope for the best.

    And no coach or owner will ever get anything but plaudits from fans - including most white fans - for starting an almost entirely black team.

    It really is kind of ridiculous how folks insist that the racial distribution of QBs and coaches not mirroring that of the entire NFL population is prima facie evidence of racism.

    The main talent that matters is intelligence (and hand size for QBs), which are not areas where blacks have an innate advantage.

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  109. @guest
    Makes me wonder how high Randy Moss' "football IQ" is. I can't say he's an idiot in regular life, but he does lack impulse control, which correlates with low-IQ. He often showed poor impulse control on the field, as well, but he also blew the game wide open and was one of top 5 best wide receivers ever to play. That couldn't have been all natural talent.

    Moss made it in the Belichik system, for a while at least. Is that because Brady, Belichik, and the coordinator Moss-ified their playbook, or did he catch on to that notoriously complex system? If so, how can there be such a wide apparent gap between football IQ and regular IQ?

    Moss, TO, that ilk were speed guys, tall, big hands, little brains. Go-Long types, maybe with the occasional ability to break off the pattern IF they recognize the proper circumstances guys like Amendola, Edelman, Gronk and Hogan and the rest of them do routinely. These guys all have layers of responsibility to recognize and react to, all in sync with Brady. These are all guys that actually graduated college with real degrees. That tells me about their IQ, tells me about their ability to play with Brady.

    I suppose the highest-IQ Blacks in the NFL are actually the best of the corners and safeties, Sherman of Seattle, Revis come to mind, several others, in spite of their antics. The best corners are drudges when it comes to study, to recognizing and reacting to tendencies, to knowing opponents’ moves before they make them, all a result of exhaustive study of each week’s receivers, QBs and running backs and offensive coach’s theories. You don’t do all that and become a good cover guy without high IQ and, they’re all Black. And that may be where all the high IQ Black slot receivers are located–on Defense, covering those smart, swivel-hipped White boys on offense, heh.

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  110. @Gringo
    Makes me wonder how high Randy Moss’ “football IQ” is.

    Don't take my word for it. Here is what Bill Belichick had to say.Randy Moss draws high praise from Bill Belichick.


    Three seasons have passed since Randy Moss, in a Patriots uniform, caught 83 passes for 1,264 yards and 13 touchdowns.

    The 35-year-old Moss is now a depth receiver with the 49ers...
    “He’s the greatest deep-ball receiver I think that’s ever played,” Bill Belichick said Wednesday during a conference call with San Francisco reporters. “Nobody runs better patterns, better at the deep part of the field, than Randy Moss can. I still see him doing that. You have to respect his ability to stretch the field so deep and get behind you. It’s hard to take that away and defend everything else that he can do. He’s an explosive, dynamic player. Probably the smartest receiver I’ve ever coached. I know he absolutely knows what he’s doing, knows what the defense is doing.”

     

    However,his respect for Moss didn't stop Belichick from getting rid of Moss when Moss's remarks to the press indicated he was more concerned with his contract the following year than with doing his job from game to game.

    What else is Belichick to say when asked? Sorry, too many Welkers, Gronks and Edelmans have passed through the New England rosters to consider Moss the best and brightest. Top it off, he was half-a-psycho to boot.

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    Gronk's the best, but the brightest, not so much.
  111. @Anonymous Nephew
    "some woman run firm, should be sort of waving the welcome mat, and filling their skilled tech positions with these underappreciated women"

    A bright Jewish refugee woman in the UK with the odd name of Steve Shirley did just that with FI Group. As they say over at Uncouth Reflections, 'couldn't do it now'. They were big in the 70s and 80s, when there were lots of women coding.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Shirley


    "After marriage to a physicist, Derek Shirley, in 1962, Shirley founded, with a capital of £6, the software company Freelance Programmers, (later FI, then Xansa since acquired by Steria and now part of the Sopra Steria Group). She wanted to create job opportunities for women with dependents, and predominantly employed women, with only 3 male programmers in the first 300 staff, until the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 made that practice illegal. She adopted the name, Steve, to help her in the male-dominated business world"
     
    She also gave away nearly all the money she got when she sold her company, so an altogether impressive figure.

    38 Anonymous Nephew > She also gave away nearly all the money she got when she sold her company, so an altogether impressive figure.

    When I had some real money, I discovered that if you don’t give it away, you’re most likely to use it for stuff that makes you fatter, or more stuck up.

    I notice that iSteve is neither fat, nor stuck up. He’s got a noticeable bit of a beer belly, but…. hey, you give the wife a new kitchen, it’s gonna make itself felt.

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  112. @Buffalo Joe
    Belichick fielded a SB team a few years back that had 10 white starters on offense. Belichick finds players that fit the Patriots system and discards with impunity any players that don't or won't play his way. Jamie Collins and Chandler Jones were All-Pro level defensive players that were traded this year pre and mid season. Amendola, Edelman and Hogan will go across the middle of the field, just yards from the line of scrimmage, and Brady hits them with a low fading pass that gains a first down and minimizes the hits they take. Hogan played two years in Buffalo and his Patriot playoff stats are better than his career stats with the Bills. Belichick and his staff don't seem to overthink the game, unlike Jon Gruden who analyzes every play like it was a quadratic equation. Rex Ryan, the recently fired, and deservedly so, coach of the Bills, had 29 assistant coaches on his staff. I personally think Belichick gets close to the SB with Brady, Offensive Coordinator Josh Mc Daniels, Defensive Coordinator Matt Patricia and the rosters of most NFL teams.

    “Belichick fielded a SB team a few years back that had 10 white starters on offense.”

    Sounds like the immediately pre-Lombardi Packers, circa 1958.

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  113. @candid_observer
    One point that I haven't seen mentioned, but I think is true, is how it is that Brady was so much on top of his game despite being 39.

    I have always suspected that Roger Goodell actually did Brady a big favor by suspending him for the first four games of this season. This no doubt gave Brady legs in the brutal NFL season, especially considering his age. One thing that seems to be a consistent sign of an aging quarterback is that they play less well toward the end of the season than at the beginning.

    In general, one thing that seems surprising to me is that more substitution isn't done in football. Obviously, the Atlanta defense at the end of the game wasn't playing at the level it did at the beginning of the game. Why don't teams routinely swap players in and out?

    “Why don’t teams routinely swap players in and out?”

    Because they don’t have enough good ones. I’m a Packer fan, I know.

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    Well, that explanation makes some sense, and it certainly seems to be how coaches justify keeping in the starters basically until they get injured.

    But, generally, is a completely fatigued defensive back or corner really better than their potential replacement who's completely fresh? If so, why is it true only in football?

  114. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    I strongly suspect that your thoughts on this topic will be further developed and expanded upon in the next online edition of American Renaissance, or at least they should be.

    As I recall, the most intelligent players, in order, are offensive tackles, offensive guards, quarterbacks, and centers…Just a crazy hunch, but could this be where most of the white football players are found?

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  115. @Jim Christian
    What else is Belichick to say when asked? Sorry, too many Welkers, Gronks and Edelmans have passed through the New England rosters to consider Moss the best and brightest. Top it off, he was half-a-psycho to boot.

    Gronk’s the best, but the brightest, not so much.

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  116. @Hibernian
    "Why don’t teams routinely swap players in and out?"

    Because they don't have enough good ones. I'm a Packer fan, I know.

    Well, that explanation makes some sense, and it certainly seems to be how coaches justify keeping in the starters basically until they get injured.

    But, generally, is a completely fatigued defensive back or corner really better than their potential replacement who’s completely fresh? If so, why is it true only in football?

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  117. It should be noted that Lady G was political. She started singing God Bless America.Then she went into This Land is Your land.Old former lefties know that this land was a rebuttal to the God bless song. After jumping off the roof, at some point she sang Born this way.
    This song is her excuse for the gay lifestyle.
    She was very subtle. You had to know the symbolism to understand her.

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    Yeah I thought that whole God Bless America (I left the room when I realized they was not going to splat after they's jump, hence I saw nothing else of they) was a full on Troll of Real America.
  118. @SteveRogers42
    And/or Toby Gearhart. Best player in college football in 2009. Drafted to back up the best RB in pro football. Languished on the bench his entire career despite great measureables and documented college performance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Gerhart

    Funny things seem to happen to white skill players who disrupt the narrative.

    That was a special situation, however. I wouldn’t mind blocking for one of the best running backs in NFL history, plus getting to score touchdowns instead of him in goal-line situations.

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  119. @PenskeFile
    Amendola's dad - a HS Football coach naturally - sued the Dallas Cowboys for $1MM after a runaway golf cart smashed into him and carried him down the field at AT&T stadium following at state championship game.

    Hilarious story and video here: http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/12/dallas-runaway-golf-cart

    Hilarious and slightly ironic since the Cowboys signed Danny Amendola as a UDFA out of college. The Rams signed him off the Cowboys’ practice squad before he played a down for them.

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  120. @flyingtiger
    It should be noted that Lady G was political. She started singing God Bless America.Then she went into This Land is Your land.Old former lefties know that this land was a rebuttal to the God bless song. After jumping off the roof, at some point she sang Born this way.
    This song is her excuse for the gay lifestyle.
    She was very subtle. You had to know the symbolism to understand her.

    Yeah I thought that whole God Bless America (I left the room when I realized they was not going to splat after they’s jump, hence I saw nothing else of they) was a full on Troll of Real America.

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  121. @candid_observer
    One point that I haven't seen mentioned, but I think is true, is how it is that Brady was so much on top of his game despite being 39.

    I have always suspected that Roger Goodell actually did Brady a big favor by suspending him for the first four games of this season. This no doubt gave Brady legs in the brutal NFL season, especially considering his age. One thing that seems to be a consistent sign of an aging quarterback is that they play less well toward the end of the season than at the beginning.

    In general, one thing that seems surprising to me is that more substitution isn't done in football. Obviously, the Atlanta defense at the end of the game wasn't playing at the level it did at the beginning of the game. Why don't teams routinely swap players in and out?

    Brady’s performance was unbelievable, especially for a 39 year old man.

    It reminded me of that baseball season when two players vied to break Roger Maris’s single season record of 61 home runs. And they both did! One of them hit 70 home runs!! That was unbelievable too.

    Talk about not noticing stuff.

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  122. I played football with Patriots DT Alan Branch (#97) at the pre-professional level, for one year. I’m sure he doesn’t remember me, but I’ve followed his career with great interest because of our acquaintanceship and the fact that we were teammates.

    Alan is black, but I think he is a great case study in Belichick recognizing undervalued talent and potential. Alan was drafted by the Cardinals, traded to the Seahawks, and released. Alan suffered a few injuries, and it looked like his career was short-lived despite his incredible physical abilities (Alan is terrifyingly talented and strong – truly an incredible specimen).

    During his career doldrums, he was convicted of a DUI. It looked like his career was kaput.

    Belichick picked him up for pennies on the dollar, and developed him into one of the best defensive linemen in the NFL. Alan’s now a two-time World Champion.

    Belichick saw Alan’s potential despite his history of injuries and his pariah status as a DUI offender. So he got one of the best defensive lineman because of it.

    Black or white – Belichick finds the undervalued talent and uses it to make the Patriots his own expression of Moneyball in the NFL. Accusations of racism are absurd – all Belichick is doing is exploiting the racism of others and the taboos of others to give his team an advantage within the salary cap, which is why he has built the greatest and one of the most long-lasting NFL dynasties.

    Alan, a Wolverine like Brady, also faced a four-game suspension this season in violation of the NFL’s due process. Luckily the NFL dropped it as they had no grounds. Basically, he was on his last strike for marijuana usage, but the first three offenses are fined quietly, and suspension only occurs on the fourth offense. His “fourth offense” was a positive test for cannaboids less than six weeks after his last positive test, and the concentration was low enough that it was clear that it was residual, and he hadn’t used any illegal substances since his last failed test.

    Anyways, Alan definitely cut it too close, but it was unfair of the league and he was punished rashly and harshly because he is a Patriot.

    Brady – sixth round garbage pick. Alan, one pick away from being a first round pick, but a pariah and considered prone to injury. Both undervalued, but now at the top of the game because of Belichick’s careful and clever management to get around the salary cap.

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  123. @Realistic
    What may be going on with the white receivers is a phenomenon I first saw articulated by Keith Norris, a trainer out of Texas. He played college football and while fast, wasn’t the absolutely fastest guy on the field. His experience was that the ridiculously fast guys, the very top end elite sprinters, had two things that worked against them in football. First, was that they have a tendency to be injury prone. The second is that they don’t seem to have as much endurance as the guys on the next level. They will absolutely beat you on a limited number of sprints but oftentimes they fade and their speed drops off due to fatigue. What Norris noted from experience is that there are some players who are really fast, though not necessarily the fastest in a single sprint, who can maintain that speed all afternoon. They seem to make the best football players.

    To put it into real numbers the three white receivers for the Patriots all run in the 4.5 range in the 40 which is fast but not the ridiculous numbers some of the defensive backs put up in the combines. Alford, for Atlanta, was listed as a 4.39 with a 40” vertical. What we may have seen in the 4th quarter is that by the end of the game the Patriots receivers were actually the fastest guys on the field. It certainly looked that way. Belichick may not look at it this way, he may simply see that they can get open and catch the ball when it’s thrown to them.

    I think that football would be much more white if it ever returns to single platoon ball.

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  124. @DCthrowback
    He traded 2 2nd rd picks for Welker from the Miami Dolphins and, if you know BB & his love of 2nd rd picks, that was high flattery for Welker indeed.

    My Dolphins have long been a rich source of stars for other teams.

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  125. @Buffalo Joe
    Steve, I won't disagree with you, but the patriots as a team in the second half were far superior to the Falcons. I would love to have heard the half time dressing down or rah rah speech in the dressing room.

    Yeah, I was wondering if Belichick was going to rip new ones for his team or if he would go the encouraging route. Or, maybe just be technical. Maybe a combination.

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  126. @Jim Don Bob
    Bellichek also said his team's conditioning helped. The Falcons's defense was fast in the first half, but looked like they were out of gas in the fourth quarter. Maybe fast players tire more quickly. Bellichek is a great talent spotter.

    Yes, explosiveness is on one end of the spectrum; endurance on the other (Type 1 muscle fibers vs. Type II — fast twitch). Ratio between the two types is mostly inborn, and most people are of course in the middle. The ATL defense was renowned for its speed and explosiveness, which is great for a while, but they necessarily run out of anaerobic energy after a while. The Patriots had the ball for more than 40 minutes. ATL wasn’t horrible in the second half but they were noticeably slowing down.

    If we went back to platoon football, or just limited substitutions or timeouts, you would probably see a moderate amount of whitening of teams, especially on defense. Whites are the jack of all trades athletically and have a little more endurance than West African-descended blacks.

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    "Whites are the jack of all trades athletically and have a little more endurance than West African-descended blacks."

    Everyone seem to have more endurance than West African blacks. I've looked around, done googles.

    But as far as I know they seem to be the only population ever, that has had genetic adaptions that give advantage in activities favoring fast twitch muscles.

    The Sports Gene guy thought it might have something to do with malaria resistance, but I haven't seen much on that.

    Aside from the current age's obsession with sports, it also seems like this isn't very useful for the kind of activities hunter gatherer, or even agricultural man engaged in.

    Don't take my word for it though. If you know or can find a counter example I'd love to see it. But as far as I know West African blacks are the best, and actually only population ever to have these features.

    You'd think that there would have to be at least one population somewhere where something similar happened, but not as far as I've been able to tell.
  127. @e
    The LA Raiders had exactly 5 whites and 47 blacks on their roster this year. Even their punter was black.

    AHEM: The OAKLAND Raiders, my friend.

    As for Marquette King, while he's not a bad citizen, he's a celebrity-wannebe and if he's not care, he's going to regret his social media habit.

    Don’t you mean the Las Vegas Raiders? ;-)

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  128. @Gringo
    Makes me wonder how high Randy Moss’ “football IQ” is.

    Don't take my word for it. Here is what Bill Belichick had to say.Randy Moss draws high praise from Bill Belichick.


    Three seasons have passed since Randy Moss, in a Patriots uniform, caught 83 passes for 1,264 yards and 13 touchdowns.

    The 35-year-old Moss is now a depth receiver with the 49ers...
    “He’s the greatest deep-ball receiver I think that’s ever played,” Bill Belichick said Wednesday during a conference call with San Francisco reporters. “Nobody runs better patterns, better at the deep part of the field, than Randy Moss can. I still see him doing that. You have to respect his ability to stretch the field so deep and get behind you. It’s hard to take that away and defend everything else that he can do. He’s an explosive, dynamic player. Probably the smartest receiver I’ve ever coached. I know he absolutely knows what he’s doing, knows what the defense is doing.”

     

    However,his respect for Moss didn't stop Belichick from getting rid of Moss when Moss's remarks to the press indicated he was more concerned with his contract the following year than with doing his job from game to game.

    Whatever else you want to say about Moss, he doesnt sound unintelligent.

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  129. @midtown
    Yes, explosiveness is on one end of the spectrum; endurance on the other (Type 1 muscle fibers vs. Type II -- fast twitch). Ratio between the two types is mostly inborn, and most people are of course in the middle. The ATL defense was renowned for its speed and explosiveness, which is great for a while, but they necessarily run out of anaerobic energy after a while. The Patriots had the ball for more than 40 minutes. ATL wasn't horrible in the second half but they were noticeably slowing down.

    If we went back to platoon football, or just limited substitutions or timeouts, you would probably see a moderate amount of whitening of teams, especially on defense. Whites are the jack of all trades athletically and have a little more endurance than West African-descended blacks.

    “Whites are the jack of all trades athletically and have a little more endurance than West African-descended blacks.”

    Everyone seem to have more endurance than West African blacks. I’ve looked around, done googles.

    But as far as I know they seem to be the only population ever, that has had genetic adaptions that give advantage in activities favoring fast twitch muscles.

    The Sports Gene guy thought it might have something to do with malaria resistance, but I haven’t seen much on that.

    Aside from the current age’s obsession with sports, it also seems like this isn’t very useful for the kind of activities hunter gatherer, or even agricultural man engaged in.

    Don’t take my word for it though. If you know or can find a counter example I’d love to see it. But as far as I know West African blacks are the best, and actually only population ever to have these features.

    You’d think that there would have to be at least one population somewhere where something similar happened, but not as far as I’ve been able to tell.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Where do Samoans fit in on the fast twitch muscle range?
    , @guest
    Maybe it's really useful for running away from lions, or something.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Speaking of fast-twitch:

    http://thebeerbarrel.net/threads/if-speed-kills-then-hunter-furr-is-the-type-of-assassin-that-every-football-coach.159/
  130. @SteveRogers42
    And/or Toby Gearhart. Best player in college football in 2009. Drafted to back up the best RB in pro football. Languished on the bench his entire career despite great measureables and documented college performance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Gerhart

    Funny things seem to happen to white skill players who disrupt the narrative.

    Funny things seem to happen to white skill players who disrupt the narrative.

    Yeah, a funny think happened to Gerhart, Jimmer Fredette, and Adam Morrison…

    They sucked.

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    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    Yeah, none of 'em are as good as you, right, He-Man?
  131. @Anonymous Nephew
    "some woman run firm, should be sort of waving the welcome mat, and filling their skilled tech positions with these underappreciated women"

    A bright Jewish refugee woman in the UK with the odd name of Steve Shirley did just that with FI Group. As they say over at Uncouth Reflections, 'couldn't do it now'. They were big in the 70s and 80s, when there were lots of women coding.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Shirley


    "After marriage to a physicist, Derek Shirley, in 1962, Shirley founded, with a capital of £6, the software company Freelance Programmers, (later FI, then Xansa since acquired by Steria and now part of the Sopra Steria Group). She wanted to create job opportunities for women with dependents, and predominantly employed women, with only 3 male programmers in the first 300 staff, until the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 made that practice illegal. She adopted the name, Steve, to help her in the male-dominated business world"
     
    She also gave away nearly all the money she got when she sold her company, so an altogether impressive figure.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Shirley

    In an interview she said “I have always had tremendous powers of attention”. Her son is autistic.

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  132. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I said Romo behind center not Dak.

    Preferred, Sorry, yes you said Romo not Presott, but Romo wasn’t going to play in that game if it happened.

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  133. @Sunbeam
    "Whites are the jack of all trades athletically and have a little more endurance than West African-descended blacks."

    Everyone seem to have more endurance than West African blacks. I've looked around, done googles.

    But as far as I know they seem to be the only population ever, that has had genetic adaptions that give advantage in activities favoring fast twitch muscles.

    The Sports Gene guy thought it might have something to do with malaria resistance, but I haven't seen much on that.

    Aside from the current age's obsession with sports, it also seems like this isn't very useful for the kind of activities hunter gatherer, or even agricultural man engaged in.

    Don't take my word for it though. If you know or can find a counter example I'd love to see it. But as far as I know West African blacks are the best, and actually only population ever to have these features.

    You'd think that there would have to be at least one population somewhere where something similar happened, but not as far as I've been able to tell.

    Where do Samoans fit in on the fast twitch muscle range?

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    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    "Quick feet and extraordinary agility for someone his size".

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/recruiting/story/_/id/18546993/how-17-year-old-australian-giant-no-football-experience-became-recruiting-sensation

    He'll have to muscle up though...only 6-9 and 400 lbs. at age 17.
  134. @Jim Christian
    Pats have ridiculous schemes requiring adjustments at the line and after the snap depending on the positions and actions of every player on the line and the backers. You have to be highly intelligent to play slot/wideout/offensive lineman on the Pats because every defensive look is different and you have to pick it up and when he goes to where you should be, you better BE THERE, or else. Top that off with every opponent requires extensive film study and you come to the final reason Blacks don't succeed in complicated themes: hard work. Failure to pick up the system has led to the cutting and awarding of a sandwich and a road map to many a Black wide receiver at the Pats.. They just don't seem to have the smarts to play McDaniel's system. I suspect Michael Floyd, picked up from Az. a few weeks back is a case in point. Percy Harvin from Indy came to camp, took one look at the playbook, retired. Ocho-Sucko, was another one. No good. Many Blaxx have passed through, they mostly don't have it. And rest assured, when Belichick uses Blacks, they are high-football-IQ that at least grasp fundamentals.

    The Pats and Brady and the White receivers are playing Chess, the Falcons with their Black receivers were playing checkers, the Falcon's schemes a bit more complicated than high school offense, but just barely. Matt Ryan is stuck with them, HE could do better, but his receivers, Black all, will never.

    Jim:
    This is the most accurate and correct analysis. A couple of years ago, I remember a Patriot’s drive – Looking at the field, there were no black players on the offensive side of the ball. I wondered, when was the last year that happened? Had to have been the 60′s.

    Remembering a Dallas Cowboys drive before halftime this season: Dez Bryant makes a phenomenal catch to get them in range of a field goal as time is running out. Dez is so enamored with himself that he jumps up and begins to showboat and dance, spiking the ball. The problem is that time is expiring and the Cowboys only have one time out remaining. Instead of hurrying to the line, the Cowboys have to burn their last timeout to avoid the delay of game penalty for spiking (lucky to get away with it). Now with no time outs left, an easy completion in the flats, positioned for a chip-shot field goal. But the black RB decides to turn up field instead of easily stepping out of bounds to kill the clock. Time runs out in the half. The Cowboys come away with no points. Good players? Stars? Not very smart.

    BB does not tolerate this kind of stupid play. I know you all have similar observations. They happen so frequently in the NFL, it is making it hard to watch. Stupid play, unnecessary penalties and displays of uncontrollable and impulsive behavior that loses games.

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  135. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Dallas is playing in that Superbowl with Romo behind center from the 12th game of the season on.

    I think you are correct. There were many opportunities in the last half of the season that Romo would have likely exploited. A Rookie, with limited ability to read coverage, couldn’t. But Dallas would have never lived down the certain cries of racism and prejudice that would have followed the benching of Dak Prescott. It absolutely cost Dallas and Tony Romo a trip to the Super Bowl.
    Going forward, Dak will have to improve in the mental aspects, if the Cowboys are to go any deeper in the playoffs.

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  136. @Truth



    Funny things seem to happen to white skill players who disrupt the narrative.
     
    Yeah, a funny think happened to Gerhart, Jimmer Fredette, and Adam Morrison...

    They sucked.

    Yeah, none of ‘em are as good as you, right, He-Man?

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    • Replies: @Truth
    No, I'd say their all superior to me in their lifetime chosen field of endeavor; but you must understand, I'm 50 years old.
  137. What a surprise – the NY Daily Worker (sorry…. News!) is leading the charge on the next shitlib cause celebre: smoking out the Nazis in pro sports, beginning with the so-called ‘genius’ Belichick. (If he were really a genius, he’d know damn well what the price would be for not snarling at Trump on cue like they’re all supposed to. Some “genius” – sticking his head right into the loop of the noose!)

    As the “News” was the only daily in America secure enough in their Bolshevism to give Shaun King both a desk and a prominently-promoted column, it’s probably just a matter of days – hours? – until they turn the Official Auto-Da-Fe of Coach Hoody over to Talcum X.

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    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Ragno:

    You are absolutley correct about the Daily News. It has very seriously degenerated, especially with its beyond-the-pale anti-Trump headlines which are at best kindergarten variety. The only good news about the News is that it's bankrupt or very nearly so - Good Bye and Good Riddance!
  138. @Sunbeam
    "Whites are the jack of all trades athletically and have a little more endurance than West African-descended blacks."

    Everyone seem to have more endurance than West African blacks. I've looked around, done googles.

    But as far as I know they seem to be the only population ever, that has had genetic adaptions that give advantage in activities favoring fast twitch muscles.

    The Sports Gene guy thought it might have something to do with malaria resistance, but I haven't seen much on that.

    Aside from the current age's obsession with sports, it also seems like this isn't very useful for the kind of activities hunter gatherer, or even agricultural man engaged in.

    Don't take my word for it though. If you know or can find a counter example I'd love to see it. But as far as I know West African blacks are the best, and actually only population ever to have these features.

    You'd think that there would have to be at least one population somewhere where something similar happened, but not as far as I've been able to tell.

    Maybe it’s really useful for running away from lions, or something.

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  139. @Steve Sailer
    Where do Samoans fit in on the fast twitch muscle range?

    “Quick feet and extraordinary agility for someone his size”.

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/recruiting/story/_/id/18546993/how-17-year-old-australian-giant-no-football-experience-became-recruiting-sensation

    He’ll have to muscle up though…only 6-9 and 400 lbs. at age 17.

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    • Replies: @Sunbeam
    Interesting. I've seen a few polynesian fullbacks (more in common than the pros).

    Not sure what Mariota was, but Oregon had one at qb before him. Have to be pretty quick to run that offense, but lots of guys have that level of quickness.

    Colorado had Sal Aunese. Pola-whatever for the Steelers at safety.

    Can't really think of any wr's or real speed guys that had this ethnicity. Usually they are guys like Seau that are just really big and athletic. Or just really big like that nose tackle the Ravens drafted really high a few years ago.

    Can't think of a sprinter that has ever been polynesian. Maybe they are just too big to be good at it (talking about body type), even if they have a lot of quick twitch?

    Dunno, but my impression is they are probably about white level on athleticism (or what we call that feature), just in a bigger package. Could be wrong though.

  140. @Markus_C

    It’s another example of my observation that if you aren’t allowed to talk about something, it’s hard to remember to do it.
     
    Can you give other examples?

    Of course, every time that someone….oh wait, damnit. I lost my train of thought.

    What was I going to talk about again?

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  141. @SteveRogers42
    Yeah, none of 'em are as good as you, right, He-Man?

    No, I’d say their all superior to me in their lifetime chosen field of endeavor; but you must understand, I’m 50 years old.

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  142. @Ragno
    What a surprise - the NY Daily Worker (sorry.... News!) is leading the charge on the next shitlib cause celebre: smoking out the Nazis in pro sports, beginning with the so-called 'genius' Belichick. (If he were really a genius, he'd know damn well what the price would be for not snarling at Trump on cue like they're all supposed to. Some "genius" - sticking his head right into the loop of the noose!)

    As the "News" was the only daily in America secure enough in their Bolshevism to give Shaun King both a desk and a prominently-promoted column, it's probably just a matter of days - hours? - until they turn the Official Auto-Da-Fe of Coach Hoody over to Talcum X.

    Ragno:

    You are absolutley correct about the Daily News. It has very seriously degenerated, especially with its beyond-the-pale anti-Trump headlines which are at best kindergarten variety. The only good news about the News is that it’s bankrupt or very nearly so – Good Bye and Good Riddance!

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    • Replies: @artichoke
    NY Post's Monday headline was saying something like Brady cheated his way to a win. WTF is wrong with these idiots?
  143. @SteveRogers42
    "Quick feet and extraordinary agility for someone his size".

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/recruiting/story/_/id/18546993/how-17-year-old-australian-giant-no-football-experience-became-recruiting-sensation

    He'll have to muscle up though...only 6-9 and 400 lbs. at age 17.

    Interesting. I’ve seen a few polynesian fullbacks (more in common than the pros).

    Not sure what Mariota was, but Oregon had one at qb before him. Have to be pretty quick to run that offense, but lots of guys have that level of quickness.

    Colorado had Sal Aunese. Pola-whatever for the Steelers at safety.

    Can’t really think of any wr’s or real speed guys that had this ethnicity. Usually they are guys like Seau that are just really big and athletic. Or just really big like that nose tackle the Ravens drafted really high a few years ago.

    Can’t think of a sprinter that has ever been polynesian. Maybe they are just too big to be good at it (talking about body type), even if they have a lot of quick twitch?

    Dunno, but my impression is they are probably about white level on athleticism (or what we call that feature), just in a bigger package. Could be wrong though.

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  144. You know of course, that Belichik went to Wes, right? He was a very good lacrosse player…who are often, very good receivers/all around athletes. His daughter coaches lacrosse at Wes. But, you are right, he is masterful in picking the overlooked. But, he also transforms (training program like no other) players….makes them study and rehearse over and over again. Makes them remember 90+ plays.

    My favorite story was Butler, who had worked at Popeyes while at some junior college weeks before Patriots grabbed him.

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    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Butler worked at Popeye's through high school and after he got thrown out of community college. They let him back in and he did well enough to earn a place a West Alabama, a four-year school. The Patriots actually like him early on at West Alabama because, of course, his versatility.

    A hard worker who has elevated his performance. Kinda like the whole team.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/02/02/malcolm-butlers-journey-from-good-employee-at-popeyes-to-patriots-super-bowl-xlix-hero/?utm_term=.6d110fd344dc
  145. @OilcanFloyd
    The NFL is full of racial and social agendas, so I wouldn't doubt that a good bit of the bias is just outright ideological racism. I'd bet that NFL owners, agents, scouts and front-office types are more likely to be SJW types than traditionalists. Who doesn't know what type of people go into sports journalism? If the Soviets pulled out all the stops to build and showcase Socialist Man, I assume that their counterparts in the U.S. would do the same to build and showcase Multicult Man.

    The push for black QBs, coaches, etc. makes it obvious that the league isn't only about winning, or being risk averse. I don't think I've ever seen a white RB or CB given the starting job, and also given years (or a decade in the case of Mike Vick) to develop like many black QBs and coaches, who still often wash out. There is just too much invested by the PTB in promoting blacks and demoting whites throughout society to believe that something similar doesn't happen in sports. Belichick gets away with what he does because blacks are so heavily overrepresented in sports, and because everyone believes that blacks are superior athletes. Otherwise he'd be forced to atone for his sins.

    All you have to do is see the support from SF ownership and the Commissioner (hence the majority of other owners) for Kaepernick this season, and their consistent refusal to consider that declining attendance had anything to do with a boycott (being widely shouted by many fans) because of Kaepernick.

    It’s obviously an SJW agenda in the league, and don’t think those black players don’t include a lot of anti-white sentiments either. That’s come out too. I don’t see how whites would go to games any more, except maybe for the New England franchise.

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    • Replies: @res
    It's fascinating to see how hard the media is spinning the two Patriots skipping the White House visit.

    Although McCourty (the second) announced his intentions Monday 2/6:
    http://time.com/4661940/new-england-patriots-devin-mccourty-white-house-donald-trump/

    Two days later we are still seeing headlines like this:
    Another Patriots player skipping White House visit over Trump
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/politics/patriots-skip-white-house-devin-mccourty-martellus-bennett/
    One by one, black New England Patriots players are refusing to visit Donald Trump's White House
    https://mic.com/articles/167843/one-by-one-black-new-england-patriots-players-are-refusing-to-visit-donald-trumps-white-house

    Which make it seem like more are skipping the White House.
  146. @Dan Hayes
    Ragno:

    You are absolutley correct about the Daily News. It has very seriously degenerated, especially with its beyond-the-pale anti-Trump headlines which are at best kindergarten variety. The only good news about the News is that it's bankrupt or very nearly so - Good Bye and Good Riddance!

    NY Post’s Monday headline was saying something like Brady cheated his way to a win. WTF is wrong with these idiots?

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    artichoke:

    It just shows that the New York Post sport writers are no better than the Daily News scribes. Generally journalist are PC, but sportswriters are the absolutely worst moonbat PCers!
  147. @artichoke
    NY Post's Monday headline was saying something like Brady cheated his way to a win. WTF is wrong with these idiots?

    artichoke:

    It just shows that the New York Post sport writers are no better than the Daily News scribes. Generally journalist are PC, but sportswriters are the absolutely worst moonbat PCers!

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  148. @artichoke
    All you have to do is see the support from SF ownership and the Commissioner (hence the majority of other owners) for Kaepernick this season, and their consistent refusal to consider that declining attendance had anything to do with a boycott (being widely shouted by many fans) because of Kaepernick.

    It's obviously an SJW agenda in the league, and don't think those black players don't include a lot of anti-white sentiments either. That's come out too. I don't see how whites would go to games any more, except maybe for the New England franchise.

    It’s fascinating to see how hard the media is spinning the two Patriots skipping the White House visit.

    Although McCourty (the second) announced his intentions Monday 2/6:

    http://time.com/4661940/new-england-patriots-devin-mccourty-white-house-donald-trump/

    Two days later we are still seeing headlines like this:
    Another Patriots player skipping White House visit over Trump

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/politics/patriots-skip-white-house-devin-mccourty-martellus-bennett/

    One by one, black New England Patriots players are refusing to visit Donald Trump’s White House

    https://mic.com/articles/167843/one-by-one-black-new-england-patriots-players-are-refusing-to-visit-donald-trumps-white-house

    Which make it seem like more are skipping the White House.

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Edelman and Mitchell were on ESPN just now and they said they were excited about going to the WH, and basically didn't care what the other players did. They were both well-spoken, obviously intelligent, and politely refused the bait. BB don't play no dummies.

    Of course, many Atlanta players said last week they would not go to the WH. The Patriots relieved them of that need.

    First Trump, now the Patriots. 2017 is off to a good start!

    , @Brutusale
    Tom Brady skipped the 2015 visit with the Magic Mulatto, citing a "scheduling conflict".

    I imagine he'll make this one.
  149. @Sunbeam
    "Whites are the jack of all trades athletically and have a little more endurance than West African-descended blacks."

    Everyone seem to have more endurance than West African blacks. I've looked around, done googles.

    But as far as I know they seem to be the only population ever, that has had genetic adaptions that give advantage in activities favoring fast twitch muscles.

    The Sports Gene guy thought it might have something to do with malaria resistance, but I haven't seen much on that.

    Aside from the current age's obsession with sports, it also seems like this isn't very useful for the kind of activities hunter gatherer, or even agricultural man engaged in.

    Don't take my word for it though. If you know or can find a counter example I'd love to see it. But as far as I know West African blacks are the best, and actually only population ever to have these features.

    You'd think that there would have to be at least one population somewhere where something similar happened, but not as far as I've been able to tell.
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  150. @res
    It's fascinating to see how hard the media is spinning the two Patriots skipping the White House visit.

    Although McCourty (the second) announced his intentions Monday 2/6:
    http://time.com/4661940/new-england-patriots-devin-mccourty-white-house-donald-trump/

    Two days later we are still seeing headlines like this:
    Another Patriots player skipping White House visit over Trump
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/politics/patriots-skip-white-house-devin-mccourty-martellus-bennett/
    One by one, black New England Patriots players are refusing to visit Donald Trump's White House
    https://mic.com/articles/167843/one-by-one-black-new-england-patriots-players-are-refusing-to-visit-donald-trumps-white-house

    Which make it seem like more are skipping the White House.

    Edelman and Mitchell were on ESPN just now and they said they were excited about going to the WH, and basically didn’t care what the other players did. They were both well-spoken, obviously intelligent, and politely refused the bait. BB don’t play no dummies.

    Of course, many Atlanta players said last week they would not go to the WH. The Patriots relieved them of that need.

    First Trump, now the Patriots. 2017 is off to a good start!

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  151. @OilcanFloyd
    The NFL is full of racial and social agendas, so I wouldn't doubt that a good bit of the bias is just outright ideological racism. I'd bet that NFL owners, agents, scouts and front-office types are more likely to be SJW types than traditionalists. Who doesn't know what type of people go into sports journalism? If the Soviets pulled out all the stops to build and showcase Socialist Man, I assume that their counterparts in the U.S. would do the same to build and showcase Multicult Man.

    The push for black QBs, coaches, etc. makes it obvious that the league isn't only about winning, or being risk averse. I don't think I've ever seen a white RB or CB given the starting job, and also given years (or a decade in the case of Mike Vick) to develop like many black QBs and coaches, who still often wash out. There is just too much invested by the PTB in promoting blacks and demoting whites throughout society to believe that something similar doesn't happen in sports. Belichick gets away with what he does because blacks are so heavily overrepresented in sports, and because everyone believes that blacks are superior athletes. Otherwise he'd be forced to atone for his sins.

    It’s pretty humorous that all the Steelers fans I know truly believe that the Steelers would have a couple more Super Bowl titles if their coach wasn’t Mike Tomlin, who they say is an affirmative action hire under the Rooney Rule, which was named after their former owner.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooney_Rule

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    That's ridiculous! Cowher was there, what, 15 years and won one Super Bowl. Tomlin has won two. Of course, it helps to have Big Ben, but still Tomlin has been a good no-nonsense coach.
  152. @Lagertha
    You know of course, that Belichik went to Wes, right? He was a very good lacrosse player...who are often, very good receivers/all around athletes. His daughter coaches lacrosse at Wes. But, you are right, he is masterful in picking the overlooked. But, he also transforms (training program like no other) players....makes them study and rehearse over and over again. Makes them remember 90+ plays.

    My favorite story was Butler, who had worked at Popeyes while at some junior college weeks before Patriots grabbed him.

    Butler worked at Popeye’s through high school and after he got thrown out of community college. They let him back in and he did well enough to earn a place a West Alabama, a four-year school. The Patriots actually like him early on at West Alabama because, of course, his versatility.

    A hard worker who has elevated his performance. Kinda like the whole team.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/02/02/malcolm-butlers-journey-from-good-employee-at-popeyes-to-patriots-super-bowl-xlix-hero/?utm_term=.6d110fd344dc

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  153. @Brutusale
    It's pretty humorous that all the Steelers fans I know truly believe that the Steelers would have a couple more Super Bowl titles if their coach wasn't Mike Tomlin, who they say is an affirmative action hire under the Rooney Rule, which was named after their former owner.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooney_Rule

    That’s ridiculous! Cowher was there, what, 15 years and won one Super Bowl. Tomlin has won two. Of course, it helps to have Big Ben, but still Tomlin has been a good no-nonsense coach.

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    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Hey, talk to the Steelers' fans, no me. They're the Patriots' bitch under Tomlin.

    No nonsense? Can you see any Patriots players doing this crap?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE3Mr6o-vkg
  154. Blacks cheer on the Steelers, Falcons and Panthers while openly showing disdain for the Patriots and Packers.

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    I think the Packers might be marginally whiter than average. I think one major reason why they're widely disdained is that they're the only remaining small town big league team in a major pro sport. They stopped playing any games in Milwaukee in the mid 90s when baseball only Miller Park replaced multipurpose County Stadium.
  155. @MarcB
    Blacks cheer on the Steelers, Falcons and Panthers while openly showing disdain for the Patriots and Packers.

    I think the Packers might be marginally whiter than average. I think one major reason why they’re widely disdained is that they’re the only remaining small town big league team in a major pro sport. They stopped playing any games in Milwaukee in the mid 90s when baseball only Miller Park replaced multipurpose County Stadium.

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  156. @res
    It's fascinating to see how hard the media is spinning the two Patriots skipping the White House visit.

    Although McCourty (the second) announced his intentions Monday 2/6:
    http://time.com/4661940/new-england-patriots-devin-mccourty-white-house-donald-trump/

    Two days later we are still seeing headlines like this:
    Another Patriots player skipping White House visit over Trump
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/politics/patriots-skip-white-house-devin-mccourty-martellus-bennett/
    One by one, black New England Patriots players are refusing to visit Donald Trump's White House
    https://mic.com/articles/167843/one-by-one-black-new-england-patriots-players-are-refusing-to-visit-donald-trumps-white-house

    Which make it seem like more are skipping the White House.

    Tom Brady skipped the 2015 visit with the Magic Mulatto, citing a “scheduling conflict”.

    I imagine he’ll make this one.

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  157. @Jim Don Bob
    That's ridiculous! Cowher was there, what, 15 years and won one Super Bowl. Tomlin has won two. Of course, it helps to have Big Ben, but still Tomlin has been a good no-nonsense coach.

    Hey, talk to the Steelers’ fans, no me. They’re the Patriots’ bitch under Tomlin.

    No nonsense? Can you see any Patriots players doing this crap?

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  158. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I’ve gone through the Kipling Poem If____ line by line that Brady quoted, that liberals widely denounced as rabid racism, and trying to see where there is a single sentence in it that can even remotely be construed as racist. I’m not seeing it.

    These libtards were pretty nutty before Trump’s political rise, but they’ve completely flipped into full-on straight-jacket and muzzle nuttiness lately. Will be interesting to see where it heats up to next.

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  159. Belichick demands intelligence, ability, character, perseverance, punctuality, coach-ability, loyalty and team thinking. These qualities are in short supply in the ghetto; harsh but true. Belichicks demands are now branded as the “Patriot Way”. If a player has what it takes to make it into his elite special forces program they become a Patriot otherwise they are cut. Pure athletic football talent is not the #1 key to becoming a Patriot. BB has cut and traded away more athletic football talent than some coached have ever drafted.

    The fact that the team is more white and more successful than any other NFL teams is fact and should be embraced not demonized. Just think what other institutions could become if they followed the BB Patriot Way blueprint.

    If you find any of this disturbing and want to lash out with the word Racist please accept my preemptive GFY.

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