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Everybody, obviously. To decide that not everybody gets to be American would be discriminatory.

Seriously, the Good People culturally appropriating old Norman Rockwell illustrations by diversificationizing them has to be the lamest trend of 2018:

It’s funny how when the American media asks immigrants “Who Gets to Be American?” the answer usually turns out to be “My cousin.” Were immigrants alway quite so shamelessly nepotistic?

Professor Viet Thanh Nguyen is a smart guy, but he’s so desperate for some of that Crazy Rich Asians “Represent Me!” lucre, it’s embarrassing.

Stradivarius Cain responds: Open borders is a Nguyen-Nguyen solution for everybody.

 
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  1. It’s funny how when the American media asks immigrants “Who Gets to Be American?” the answer usually turns out to be “My cousin.” Were immigrants alway quite so shamelessly nepotistic?

    Judging from the experience of the Irish in America–and I’m about 1/3 Irish–the answer is yes.

    But come to think about it, for whatever reason that seems to hold mostly for immigrants who stay urban. Then again, nowadays immigrants increasingly stay urban.

    • Replies: @rufus
    Like Lord Baltimore ? or perhaps Charles Carrol ? Save the saccharin schmalz you fuckin illiterate.
  2. White dude tucked in the back corner on the Time cover reminds me of those WWII-era propaganda posters for the Commonwealth, where fighting men from across the empire were marching together in a rather unsubtle racial pecking order.

    https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/17043

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    From Waugh's "Put Out More Flags," 1942.

    “You might write a book for us then. I’m getting out a very nice little series on 'What We Are Fighting For.' I’ve signed up a retired admiral, a Church of England curate, an unemployed docker, a Negro solicitor from the Gold Coast, and a nose-and-throat specialist from Harley Street. The original idea was to have a symposium in one volume, but I’ve had to enlarge the idea a little. All our authors had such very different ideas it might have been a little confusing. We could fit you in very nicely. 'I used to think war crazy.’ It’s a new line.”

    “But I do think war crazy still.”

    “Yes,” said Mr. Bentley, his momentary enthusiasm waning. “I know what you mean.”

    , @Hypnotoad666
    "White dude tucked in the back corner . . ."

    He looks very much like he was photoshopped as an afterthought: "Great picture. We have included everyone who gets to be an American. Oh wait . . . "
    , @Tiny Duck
    If Peopke of Col R have to deal with it fur -000 years than white odious can just get over it
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    , @Daniel H
    White dude looks like he's checking his cell phone. Perfect.
  3. White dude tucked in the back corner on the Time cover reminds me of those WWII-era propaganda posters for the Commonwealth, where fighting men from across the empire were marching together in a rather unsubtle racial pecking order.

    https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/17043

    • Replies: @rufus
    Bro, that's who we are. Every freakshow mongrel race the earth has ever shat forth.
  4. @Clive Beaconsfield
    White dude tucked in the back corner on the Time cover reminds me of those WWII-era propaganda posters for the Commonwealth, where fighting men from across the empire were marching together in a rather unsubtle racial pecking order.

    https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/17043

    From Waugh’s “Put Out More Flags,” 1942.

    “You might write a book for us then. I’m getting out a very nice little series on ‘What We Are Fighting For.’ I’ve signed up a retired admiral, a Church of England curate, an unemployed docker, a Negro solicitor from the Gold Coast, and a nose-and-throat specialist from Harley Street. The original idea was to have a symposium in one volume, but I’ve had to enlarge the idea a little. All our authors had such very different ideas it might have been a little confusing. We could fit you in very nicely. ‘I used to think war crazy.’ It’s a new line.”

    “But I do think war crazy still.”

    “Yes,” said Mr. Bentley, his momentary enthusiasm waning. “I know what you mean.”

  5. I think that pregnant in Mr. Nguyen’s question is the real question, which is: “Who gets to decide who gets to be American?”

    The “artwork” accompanying the question seems to provide the answer to Mr. Nguyen’s rhetorical question: “Not you, whitey.”

    • Agree: L Woods, Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Captain Willard
    Indeed Mr. Leamas.

    Pregnant in your question is, to me, the more interesting and vital question: "Who doesn't get to become an American?"

    I've yet to hear any of these globalist knuckleheads delineate any coherent limiting principle for their open immigration policy.
    , @Anon
    Every war we fight in, we end up taking in the losers. If Mr. Nguyen hates white conservatives, there is no place for his hatred. Our rights of self-determination are non-negotiable.
    , @ChrisZ
    Great point Alec. Can’t be emphasized enough.

    “Who decides?”—and it’s correlative questions:

    1. How many?
    2. At what rate of entry?
    3. What mix of nationalities?

    Leftists can scream and yell that these—and the last one especially—open the door to discrimination. But ANY answer would be discrimination of some kind; immigration *policy* discriminates by definition.

    What flummoxes liberals of my acquaintance is the “Who decides?” question. Maybe because these are of an older generation, they can’t bring themselves to argue against a democratic decision by citizens. Opinion makers of the Left still have not come up with a standard, surefire retort that blithely replaces popular governance with decision by totalitarian clique.

    At least, these older liberals haven’t internalized it yet. They’d rather avoid the issue of immigration entirely, and defer to nonhuman authorities like “science” or “international law.”
    , @obwandiyag
    Wrong. As always, rich white people who love immigrants because they can pay them peanuts and because they completely divide and conquer the white working class (look at yourself, playing the ID politics game) get to do the deciding. Get it straight.
    , @AnotherDad

    I think that pregnant in Mr. Nguyen’s question is the real question, which is: “Who gets to decide who gets to be American?”
     
    Also pregnant--but never mentioned--is *why* do these people want to be American?

    Why have all these people come here? It doesn't seem to be to get 160 acres of rich deep black soil on the prairies. There must be some reason?
  6. Getting ready to vote early and often, using provisional and mail-in ballots, against Trump in 2020.

    The TIME cover is really an obituary notice for the United States of America.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    The TIME cover is really an obituary notice for the United States of America.

    For better or worse, this is true. One of the worst things Conservatism Inc. did over the last four or five decades was to act as the opiate of the White middle class man. It kept us thinking these other people were "just visiting" or that the "Loonie Left" was just something to laugh about over gin & tonics. Collectively, we're only wising up now. But it's too late to get back what our fathers and grandfathers took for granted.

    , @Old Palo Altan
    I'm sure the more thoughtful of us here are well aware that Matt Damon's character's response was meant (not by the character, but by the writers and producers of the film) as a mockingly dismissive wave of the hand at those of us who would once have been glad to say those words and believe them true.

    "No longer you don't, you stupid goyim." is what those words are really saying, and correctly.

    What hopelessly trusting fools we were.

    , @indocon
    Sadly but you are correct Pilgrim, this last election was a real heartbreaker, I was hoping against hope that there may be sliver of green shoots among non AA POC's especially in 2'nd to 8'th income deciles, but sadly I did not see one, and with that any chance of Steve's citizenship kind of philosophy take hold. If the kind dollar stays up, I actually see CA like future for USofA where R's will get get permanently pushed to minority status and with their corrupt establishment will gladly stay there, leaving their voters to fend for themselves.

    We were thinking about winding our properties in the mother country, but will skip that as chance of needing to move again is now greater than 0%.
  7. @Alec Leamas
    I think that pregnant in Mr. Nguyen's question is the real question, which is: "Who gets to decide who gets to be American?"

    The "artwork" accompanying the question seems to provide the answer to Mr. Nguyen's rhetorical question: "Not you, whitey."

    Indeed Mr. Leamas.

    Pregnant in your question is, to me, the more interesting and vital question: “Who doesn’t get to become an American?”

    I’ve yet to hear any of these globalist knuckleheads delineate any coherent limiting principle for their open immigration policy.

  8. Funny how Mexican Americans want more Mexicans to immigrate here. Muslims want more Muslims, etc. No surprise as we are all nepotistic.

    Let’s get some “on the street” interviews with Mexicans or Muslims or whatever where they are asked about greatly increasing the numbers of Chinese and Indians immigrating to America to help fill the high tech job openings. After all, there are about 8 of them for every American, so no shortage of immigrants to fill up America. I bet they are not so enthusiastic about immigration then.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Hannah, when my grandparents came to America I am sure they wanted their relatives to follow and join them in their Italian neighborhoods. However, back then, it was sink or swim. No EBT cards, no SNAP, no Medicaid, no Section Eight housing vouchers, so of course you wanted your relatives here in case you needed help. Now you put one foot on America's shores and the government guarantees that you live better than you did in your homeland.
    , @srg
    It's the hoards, fighting over the scraps.
  9. I think it’s about time we nonrainbow (nonGoodpeople by def.) rise up and do some serious cultural appropriation that might do some nonbad. I propose we culturally appropriate the engine won’t start laugh. You know, it goes like this: Ha. (pause) haha (pause) haha.

  10. “Who gets to be an American” – the answer should be, people who are already Americans. If non-Americans are to be adopted into the family, that should be the decision of the American people themselves.

    But the real answer is: the Koch brothers (and their fellow oligarchs) get to decide. They get to decide who gets to be an American, not us. And if they ever start to worry about the country becoming unstable, they will without shame seal the border and if necessary machine gun migrants en masse.

    Because this country does not belong to us. It’s a farm. And the Koch brothers are the farmers. And we are cattle. And farmers don’t ask the cattle’s permission if they want to jam them in more tightly, do they?

  11. @Alec Leamas
    I think that pregnant in Mr. Nguyen's question is the real question, which is: "Who gets to decide who gets to be American?"

    The "artwork" accompanying the question seems to provide the answer to Mr. Nguyen's rhetorical question: "Not you, whitey."

    Every war we fight in, we end up taking in the losers. If Mr. Nguyen hates white conservatives, there is no place for his hatred. Our rights of self-determination are non-negotiable.

  12. @slumber_j

    It’s funny how when the American media asks immigrants “Who Gets to Be American?” the answer usually turns out to be “My cousin.” Were immigrants alway quite so shamelessly nepotistic?
     
    Judging from the experience of the Irish in America--and I'm about 1/3 Irish--the answer is yes.

    But come to think about it, for whatever reason that seems to hold mostly for immigrants who stay urban. Then again, nowadays immigrants increasingly stay urban.

    Like Lord Baltimore ? or perhaps Charles Carrol ? Save the saccharin schmalz you fuckin illiterate.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    " ... you fuckin illiterate."

    You fuckin' illiterate.
  13. @Anonymous
    White dude tucked in the back corner on the Time cover reminds me of those WWII-era propaganda posters for the Commonwealth, where fighting men from across the empire were marching together in a rather unsubtle racial pecking order.

    https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/17043

    Bro, that’s who we are. Every freakshow mongrel race the earth has ever shat forth.

  14. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    The whole point of these pieces, of which are but the latest variation of James Baldwin’s hatred, is to deny that conservatives have any cultural place whatsoever.

    This is defamation, of which the Brooklyn Boys should be loudly condemning.

    If there is no right, and no legitimacy for conservatives to insist on borders and exclusion…to Nguyen and his fellow liberal supremacists…

    Where the hell are we supposed to go?

  15. OFF TOPIC : This very old French lady thinks Merkel is Macron’s wife!

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Given his taste in women, it was a reasonable guess.
    , @Percy Gryce
    Did you hear: Macron explained the situation to Merkel in English?! Incroyable!
    , @LondonBob
    She didn't realise Macron is gay? Merkel would make a good beard.
  16. As the legitimacy of the American system collapses, it will be interesting to observe how well all these fringe “Americans” get along…I seem to recall Mao saying something about power and guns.

  17. @Alec Leamas
    I think that pregnant in Mr. Nguyen's question is the real question, which is: "Who gets to decide who gets to be American?"

    The "artwork" accompanying the question seems to provide the answer to Mr. Nguyen's rhetorical question: "Not you, whitey."

    Great point Alec. Can’t be emphasized enough.

    “Who decides?”—and it’s correlative questions:

    1. How many?
    2. At what rate of entry?
    3. What mix of nationalities?

    Leftists can scream and yell that these—and the last one especially—open the door to discrimination. But ANY answer would be discrimination of some kind; immigration *policy* discriminates by definition.

    What flummoxes liberals of my acquaintance is the “Who decides?” question. Maybe because these are of an older generation, they can’t bring themselves to argue against a democratic decision by citizens. Opinion makers of the Left still have not come up with a standard, surefire retort that blithely replaces popular governance with decision by totalitarian clique.

    At least, these older liberals haven’t internalized it yet. They’d rather avoid the issue of immigration entirely, and defer to nonhuman authorities like “science” or “international law.”

    • Agree: bomag
  18. If you’re desperate or stuck enough to put up with shit for human rights, you’re in! Congratulations, sucker.

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/issues/indicators/pages/hrindicatorsindex.aspx

    The USA is a totalitarian snake pit run by mobsters. Nobody comes here unless CIA drives them here by starving them or blowing up their country. The visa lottery is how CIA gets their hooks in agents. They let your relations in and keep you on the ground engaged in treason.

    • Replies: @anon

    Nobody comes here unless CIA drives them here by starving them or blowing up their country.
     
    yeah sure, pal
  19. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:

    What’s not so funny is why the voice and wishes of the American people have never been asked or listened to over Immigration. I pay taxes that support the whole shebang, my ancestors have been here for centuries building the place, I have 2 sons who will have to live with the consequences,why shouldn’t I have a say in it?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, not to be crude, but according to Liz Warren and Obama, your ancestors built shit. America was build on the backs of slaves, who apparently arrived way before your folks and got the country ready for them.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    What’s not so funny is why the voice and wishes of the American people have never been asked or listened to over Immigration. I pay taxes that support the whole shebang...
     
    Americans voted for benefits. The benefit-givers also give benefits to others.

    Solution: never, ever vote for benefits.
    , @notanon

    the voice and wishes of the American people have never been asked or listened to over Immigration
     
    they were

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

    something changed between 1924 and 1965
  20. It’s convenient that they ask a guy like Viet Thanh Nguyen, who hails from a country absolutely no one wants to immigrate to. Why not have a Japanese author? Then we could ask him in reply “who gets to be Japanese?”

    I’m not just making the normal point about hypocrisy, as good a point as that is. If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren’t we asking “who gets to be Japanese” or “who gets to be Israeli” or a citizen of any other country? The Left never hesitates to impose it’s values on other countries in any other number of ways. Why isn’t it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?

    Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.

    Once upon a time a Time magazine cover story would have meant something. In 2017 alone it’s circulation fell by 33%, from 3 million to 2 million. “New” Americans have never bought the magazine. Legacy Americans no longer want to. I’d guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old, who only continue to buy out of inertia. It’s the kind of magazine which celebrates the death and decline of traditional white America even as its readership dies off even faster.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Without medical waiting rooms, how many of these print publications would still be viable?

    Kill two birds with one stone, lower healthcare overhead, and throwing liberal journolists out of a job.
    , @anonymous
    If you (or someone else) is willing to be publicly identified, then please consider converting this into a letter and submitting it to Time for publication. (The magazine published letters when I last remember looking at a copy, although that was years ago.) The last paragraph should be omitted, and the apostrophe removed from "it's" in the second.

    I would be pleasantly shocked to learn that Time has the guts to print your challenging questions, assuming that the magazine is still around in a couple more months.
    , @Johnny Smoggins
    "I’d guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old..."

    Fifty would be GenX, no one from that generation reads Time. The only people still reading Time are middle class, White boomers and fewer and fewer of them. I'd be surprised if Time survived in print form for another two years.

    , @Barnard
    Time claims the median age of their readers is 50. That is possibly true for website views, but for the print magazine that is hard to believe.
    , @bomag
    Good point.

    Also bothersome in this essay is the usual supremacism of the current day immigrant: "America sucks with its history of genocide, colonialism, etc., so we are here to replace those people with my wonderful untainted people. This may look like another form of genocide and colonialism, but I will explain to you why it is different" Nguyen hedges this a bit, at least, with some criticism in passing of Vietnam, but lets it slip some more with his musings, "Perhaps it is not so far-fetched to imagine that one day someone like me, born in Vietnam, might be sent back to Vietnam, despite having made more out of myself than many native-born Americans."

    I guess we're supposed to thank him on our way out the door for doing things we supposedly can't do for ourselves.

    , @Corvinus
    "If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren’t we asking “who gets to be Japanese” or “who gets to be Israeli” or a citizen of any other country?"

    Some on the left pose these questions. Others, however, are more focused here in the States,

    "The Left never hesitates to impose it’s values on other countries in any other number of ways."

    You mean the Left And the Right engages in such action.

    "Why isn’t it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?"

    First things first. The elites have to take over America before they take over the world!

    "Legacy Americans..."

    Would only be Americans who are able to definitively show that their ancestors on both sides had been here prior to the Revolutionary War. Do you meet the criteria?

    UNLESS...

    "Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American."

    Exactly! We do, the citizens, which consists of different racial and ethnic groups.

    , @donut
    I didn't even know Time Magazine was still in business until I had to start seeing Drs. recently . It's in the waiting rooms . It's not my father's Time any more . Luce must be spinning in his grave .
    "In September 2018, Meredith announced the sale of Time to Marc Benioff and his wife Lynne for $190 million." Marc Benioff a Jew from SF ."In 2016, he was named one of Fortune's 50 World's Greatest Leaders for his commitment to equality for all and other social issues as CEO". " Benioff led a global effort of business leaders fighting back against Religious Freedom Restoration Act ultimately leading to the Indiana State Legislature's passing an amendment to the bill containing protections for LGBT customers, tenants and employees." Benioff supported Hillary Clinton for President of the United States in the 2016 presidential election. So basically a "termite".
    During the second half of 2009, the magazine had a 34.9% decline in newsstand sales . During the first half of 2010, another decline of at least one-third in Time magazine sales occurred. In the second half of 2010, Time magazine newsstand sales declined by about 12% to just over 79,000 copies per week.
    Time initially possessed a distinctive writing style, making regular use of inverted sentences. This was parodied in 1936 by Wolcott Gibbs in The New Yorker: "Backward ran sentences until reeled the mind [...] Where it all will end, knows God!" Sounds like Yoda another SJW . Embrace the dark side .
    , @Jason Liu
    What makes people think SJWs don't try to undermine Asian countries?

    It's just not as common because guess what, most SJWs live in the west.

    In fact, the west's failure to contain its own diseases makes it a dangerous plague spreader around the world.
    , @Anonymous
    Well that's easy. America is a "nation of immigrants". Japan and Israel are not. Seriously, that's all there is to it. Unless you've been living under a rock, that's what the "official", "mainstream" view held by most Americans has been for decades now. This is why all anti-immigration arguments in mainstream discourse are indirect arguments i.e. immigrants bring crime, take jobs, etc. There is no opposition against immigrants qua immigrants, for simply being non-Americans or different because the meta-belief is that America is a "nation of immigrants".
  21. I suppose the authors and signer of the Naturalization Act of 1790 might have a different view.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    They were ALL old white male slaveholders, so of course the people who created the country have nothing of value to teach us.
  22. PeterIke’s Law is shifting into over-drive, and anti-white Asians are now thick on the ground and being published and promoted everywhere at once. It’s going to get much worse and much sooner than you might think.

    • Replies: @Altai
    I once met a guy of Chinese parentage from New York (Interesting guy, went against stereotype of son of Chinese immigrants, went into social work, in New York. Not only low paying but one of the most stressful and demoralising place for that occupation)

    When I casually mentioned that everyone in Ireland has such a fond image of New York, he almost reflexively immediately replied 'Because of all the diversity?'. It took me aback so much I almost laughed.

    His also casually and with great happiness apparent running over his expression as if he had no concept such a statement 'A lot of immigrants' when commenting on Dublin.
    , @Thomm

    PeterIke’s Law is shifting into over-drive,
     
    That is not what Peterike's Law is.

    You can CTRL+F in my comments chronicle to see the clarification of what Peterike's Law really is.

    Plus, as a Polish immigrant, you can't really pull rank over a Vietnamese immigrant like Mr. Nguyen. Both countries suffered from the same Communism around the same time period.
    , @Anonymous
    What is peterike's law?
  23. I’d like to do a study. I’d like to hook up every single person on that cover to a lie detector and ask them 1) Who gets to be American?; b) Who gets to be a citizen of your native country?; c) How do you feel about whites becoming a minority in America?; and d) How would you feel if immigration into your country were turning your people into a minority?

    But seriously that would make a great study.

    If their answers aren’t reasonably consistent then the answer to “who gets to be American” should be “not you.”

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Lee Jussim at Rutgers has been doing similar studies looking at people’s responses to politically correct statements by looking at brain activity (which is actually more reliable than a lie detector) and getting some interesting results. Added bonus- this was done in solidly blue state NJ.
  24. The Answer To The Mass Asian Immigration Invasion Is Mass Asian Deportation

    I wrote this in August 2018:

    Andrew Jackson humanely removed Asians to make way for European Christian settlement.

    These current Asians have 20 or 30 IQ points on the Asians Andrew Jackson dealt with, but they will go as the others did regardless. It will be as difficult as the Asians make it, but they will not colonize and occupy the United States.

    Political Will Is All That Is Needed.

    Tweet from 2015:

  25. anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:

    The deimagining Rockwell photo trend is really lame, so lame they always have to tell you what it is. Uh Rockwell was an illustrator with a distinctive style — let’s put some effort in here people — get thee to a drawing board.

    Does anyone under fifty know who Rockwell is?

    Ho-kay, now I have to walk down a tree lined dirt path to get my Saturday Evening Post from the mailbox.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Does anyone under fifty know who Rockwell is?
     
    iSteve comments fave Leyendecker has permanently superseded Rockwell. Few know this. Happy Thanksgiving everybody!

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/21/59/ab/2159ab39e9d37226c606d6ca7a30f338.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/54/8a/a5/548aa5817548ef75a1f4f4c43aae2136.jpg

    https://mattsko.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/leyendecker-t-giving.jpg?w=560&h=777

    https://desenhaporra.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/0071.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1f/5d/bf/1f5dbfb498eac1a372379bf12956af41.jpg
    , @LondonBob
    Any relation between Norman, Llewellyn and Lincoln Rockwell?
    , @notanon

    The deimagining Rockwell photo trend is really lame
     
    it's a display of raw power

    the same people who attack whites over cultural appropriation blatantly appropriate white culture.
  26. @Wilkey
    It's convenient that they ask a guy like Viet Thanh Nguyen, who hails from a country absolutely no one wants to immigrate to. Why not have a Japanese author? Then we could ask him in reply "who gets to be Japanese?"

    I'm not just making the normal point about hypocrisy, as good a point as that is. If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren't we asking "who gets to be Japanese" or "who gets to be Israeli" or a citizen of any other country? The Left never hesitates to impose it's values on other countries in any other number of ways. Why isn't it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?

    Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.

    Once upon a time a Time magazine cover story would have meant something. In 2017 alone it's circulation fell by 33%, from 3 million to 2 million. "New" Americans have never bought the magazine. Legacy Americans no longer want to. I'd guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old, who only continue to buy out of inertia. It's the kind of magazine which celebrates the death and decline of traditional white America even as its readership dies off even faster.

    Without medical waiting rooms, how many of these print publications would still be viable?

    Kill two birds with one stone, lower healthcare overhead, and throwing liberal journolists out of a job.

  27. Well…our next POTUS be the Hindu-Jamaican Kamala Harris. And this means that Kamala Harris and her vicious Hindu Attorney General Preet Bharara will get to determine who is an authentic “American”…..And what this means is that Kamala Harris’s and Preet Bharara’s people….Hindus…get to vote The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority(Steve…you have no idea how much self-control it took for me not to CAP THIS) into a White Raciality Foreigner within the borders of America……….

    Suppose the WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MEN(couldn’t control the impulse) who landed on Normandy Beach were given a crystal ball the night before D-Day and could see the aftermath of Nov 3 2020=Hindu Rule in America!!!!!…….I will let Steve’s Readers fill in the details…..

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Steve...if you let the above post go through...I will tell you a very interesting story about THE SIMPLE MINDS music video....the well known music video with singer Robin Clark which is directly related to what I wrote above....I kid you not.....So....be a good sport about it....
    , @AndrewR
    This site has the best comments
    , @densa
    Don't despair, if Nikki Haley successfully primaries Trump and runs against Kamala Harris, we'll have a choice. We get to vote on being dispossessed. /sarcasm

    I agree with your post entirely. What would all those who toiled for their children to have better lives than they had say to this generation? And certainly what would those on Normandy Beach think if they could have foreseen their country would be given away without a shot fired.
  28. No More Near Beer Opinions — Give Us The Ferocious Firewater Of White Core America!

    I wrote this peppery bit in January of 2018:

    Asians are colonizing the United States. This colonization will be stopped and the Asians will be encouraged to repatriate themselves.

    Asians are now a threatening component of the anti-White Democrat Party. The Democrat Party is made up of Blacks, Asians, Jews, Mestizos, White government workers and other White elements.

    Asians must not be allowed to colonize the West and East Coasts of the United States.

    The Republican Party goes explicitly White Identity Politics or it goes dodo.

    California must be fought for and won back by White Core Americans.

  29. @War for Blair Mountain
    Well...our next POTUS be the Hindu-Jamaican Kamala Harris. And this means that Kamala Harris and her vicious Hindu Attorney General Preet Bharara will get to determine who is an authentic “American”.....And what this means is that Kamala Harris’s and Preet Bharara’s people....Hindus...get to vote The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority(Steve...you have no idea how much self-control it took for me not to CAP THIS) into a White Raciality Foreigner within the borders of America..........

    Suppose the WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MEN(couldn’t control the impulse) who landed on Normandy Beach were given a crystal ball the night before D-Day and could see the aftermath of Nov 3 2020=Hindu Rule in America!!!!!.......I will let Steve’s Readers fill in the details.....

    Steve…if you let the above post go through…I will tell you a very interesting story about THE SIMPLE MINDS music video….the well known music video with singer Robin Clark which is directly related to what I wrote above….I kid you not…..So….be a good sport about it….

  30. So what does Dr. Nguyen think of his fellow Californian, Senator Janet Nguyen, being removed from the state senate floor for daring to criticize Paul Hayden for his anti-Vietnam war efforts during the left’s Eulogy for him?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/california-state-senator-removed-after-criticizing-late-lawmaker-over-vietnam-n725396

  31. This guy checks all the boxes in his story:

    - Says he’s better and smarter than native born Americans (the Apu Theory)

    - Uses the pronoun “I” about 7 billion times

    - Claims, fraudulently, that Trump wants to deport naturalized citizens

    Fun fact: There are more than 2000 Nguyens in state prison in California. Are they more accomplished than average Americans?

    • Replies: @anon

    Says he’s better and smarter than native born Americans (the Apu Theory)
     
    so that entitles him to steal what Americans built?
    , @Moses
    Viets are smarter than Americans? Tell it to the Viets. They all want to leave Vietnam and immigrate to America, even today.

    Ever been to Vietnam? I have. The Viets could never, ever build a society like Americans have built. Ever.

    Here's a little anecdote. Some years ago OC was trying to get more non-Whites onto the police force. The idea was that people who looked like you should be policing your community.

    For a domestic disturbance call in Little Saigon the cops dispatched a Viet officer. The Viet who called the cops took one look at him and said "No, I don't want a Viet officer, I want an American!"

    Says it all right there, doesn't it?

  32. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    It's convenient that they ask a guy like Viet Thanh Nguyen, who hails from a country absolutely no one wants to immigrate to. Why not have a Japanese author? Then we could ask him in reply "who gets to be Japanese?"

    I'm not just making the normal point about hypocrisy, as good a point as that is. If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren't we asking "who gets to be Japanese" or "who gets to be Israeli" or a citizen of any other country? The Left never hesitates to impose it's values on other countries in any other number of ways. Why isn't it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?

    Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.

    Once upon a time a Time magazine cover story would have meant something. In 2017 alone it's circulation fell by 33%, from 3 million to 2 million. "New" Americans have never bought the magazine. Legacy Americans no longer want to. I'd guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old, who only continue to buy out of inertia. It's the kind of magazine which celebrates the death and decline of traditional white America even as its readership dies off even faster.

    If you (or someone else) is willing to be publicly identified, then please consider converting this into a letter and submitting it to Time for publication. (The magazine published letters when I last remember looking at a copy, although that was years ago.) The last paragraph should be omitted, and the apostrophe removed from “it’s” in the second.

    I would be pleasantly shocked to learn that Time has the guts to print your challenging questions, assuming that the magazine is still around in a couple more months.

  33. @Wilkey
    It's convenient that they ask a guy like Viet Thanh Nguyen, who hails from a country absolutely no one wants to immigrate to. Why not have a Japanese author? Then we could ask him in reply "who gets to be Japanese?"

    I'm not just making the normal point about hypocrisy, as good a point as that is. If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren't we asking "who gets to be Japanese" or "who gets to be Israeli" or a citizen of any other country? The Left never hesitates to impose it's values on other countries in any other number of ways. Why isn't it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?

    Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.

    Once upon a time a Time magazine cover story would have meant something. In 2017 alone it's circulation fell by 33%, from 3 million to 2 million. "New" Americans have never bought the magazine. Legacy Americans no longer want to. I'd guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old, who only continue to buy out of inertia. It's the kind of magazine which celebrates the death and decline of traditional white America even as its readership dies off even faster.

    “I’d guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old…”

    Fifty would be GenX, no one from that generation reads Time. The only people still reading Time are middle class, White boomers and fewer and fewer of them. I’d be surprised if Time survived in print form for another two years.

    • Replies: @Fred Boynton
    You're right; the last Boomers were born in 1964 and 1965 was the beginning of GenX and I can't imagine many or any of them reading Time. Even in the 90's Time was considered an old person's magazine (old meaning Boomer and older). Every time I hear about Time or Newsweek now, I'm amazed either still exists.
  34. Are there any non-whites who object to goodwhites using them as a tool to attack badwhites? Is Mr Nguyen aware that nobody would give a shit about anything he has to say if he wasn’t attacking badwhites?

  35. When you are the best, everyone wants to be you.

  36. On the subject of immigrants’ cousins, I’ve never understood how clannishness (as opposed to the nuclear family) makes one more likely to marry his cousins. Healthy cultures do not produce this outcome.

    On topic: Michigan judge dismisses female genital mutilation cases. Everyone on earth has a fundamental right to come to the US and savagely abuse their daughters.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Judge Bernard Friedman is; quelle suprise! a Jew. His ruling legalizing gay marriage in Michigan and then presiding over the wedding and staying for the grandiose reception was celebrated in the Detroit Jewish News as another marvelous example of how the virtuous and saintly Jews are maki g America a better and better place with every warped judicial decision.

    The argument for the defense of the FGM drs and parents was that the federal law making FGM illegal was not debated, but just proposed and quickly passed by Congress.
    So the good Jewish judge Friedman has set another precedent, that no federal
    Law is valid unless it has been extensively debated before passing.

    Given that precedent the next time a US president is murdered, the defendant can’t be tried and convicted in a federal court but in the state in which the president was killed

    After all in November 1963, there was no federal law forbidding the nursery of a president so if Oswald had lived he would have been tried in Texas

    After the murder of Kennedy a federal law was swiftly passed without debate making the murder of a president a federal crime.

    So next time a president is murdered the defense can argue the federal law wasn’t debated sufficiently.

    So now the precedent has been set that laws can be overturned if they were not sufficiently debated before passing

    FGM wasn’t yet illegal in Michigan when it was committed. I suppose the county prosecutor could try great bodily injury and mayhem but they’d probably get another Jewish judge.

    If the case gets to the Supreme Court I’m sure the 3 feminazis will vote in favor of the Muslim practice of FMG aka child molestatiin, assault and battery, assault with a deadly weapon great bodily injury and mayhem
    , @notanon

    I’ve never understood how clannishness (as opposed to the nuclear family) makes one more likely to marry his cousins
     
    the marriages are arranged by the parents
  37. Why does the Indian (feathers, not dots) in the picture look so much like a dark-haired Hillary Clinton?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Just subtly putting her face in your brain and maybe even associating it with minorities (where she did poorly) looking ahead to the 2020 election. Sounds a bit far fetched but the way the left and corporations have been behaving recently I really wouldn’t put it past them. They certainly drive home their other messages through plenty of other indirect mechanisms.
  38. “Who Gets to be American?”

    Who Are We As A Nation?

    What Are We Using Our Military To Fight For?

    Nationalism For Jews?

    Globalization, Mass Immigration And Multiculturalism For White Christians?

  39. Who gets to be an American? How about the kind of people who created America (and invented/created/discovered just about everything in existence) and not the kind of people who created Third World shitholes?

    That way America can be America and not – judging by the cover art – a society of stone age savages, a medieval theocracy, a collection of castes inhabiting a cesspool, or a society of Mestizo peasants.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "How about the kind of people who created America (**and invented/created/discovered just about everything in existence**) and not the kind of people who created Third World shitholes?"

    **“White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East). Bear in mind that there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time.

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is "natural". Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like "your kind" were the only ones. It is no longer "natural" anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions--gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press--in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate "Third World shitholes".

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother's and father's side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.
  40. @Wilkey
    It's convenient that they ask a guy like Viet Thanh Nguyen, who hails from a country absolutely no one wants to immigrate to. Why not have a Japanese author? Then we could ask him in reply "who gets to be Japanese?"

    I'm not just making the normal point about hypocrisy, as good a point as that is. If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren't we asking "who gets to be Japanese" or "who gets to be Israeli" or a citizen of any other country? The Left never hesitates to impose it's values on other countries in any other number of ways. Why isn't it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?

    Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.

    Once upon a time a Time magazine cover story would have meant something. In 2017 alone it's circulation fell by 33%, from 3 million to 2 million. "New" Americans have never bought the magazine. Legacy Americans no longer want to. I'd guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old, who only continue to buy out of inertia. It's the kind of magazine which celebrates the death and decline of traditional white America even as its readership dies off even faster.

    Time claims the median age of their readers is 50. That is possibly true for website views, but for the print magazine that is hard to believe.

    • Replies: @bomag

    ...claims the median age
     
    Probably the usual spin, e.g they count part of institutional subscriptions as being the young cohort.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Time claims the median age of their readers is 50. That is possibly true for website views, but for the print magazine that is hard to believe.
     
    I could believe it. One of their readers is 25, another two are 50, and the fourth is 75.
  41. A more pertinent question is, “who gets to decide who gets to be an American.”

  42. @Wilkey
    It's convenient that they ask a guy like Viet Thanh Nguyen, who hails from a country absolutely no one wants to immigrate to. Why not have a Japanese author? Then we could ask him in reply "who gets to be Japanese?"

    I'm not just making the normal point about hypocrisy, as good a point as that is. If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren't we asking "who gets to be Japanese" or "who gets to be Israeli" or a citizen of any other country? The Left never hesitates to impose it's values on other countries in any other number of ways. Why isn't it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?

    Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.

    Once upon a time a Time magazine cover story would have meant something. In 2017 alone it's circulation fell by 33%, from 3 million to 2 million. "New" Americans have never bought the magazine. Legacy Americans no longer want to. I'd guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old, who only continue to buy out of inertia. It's the kind of magazine which celebrates the death and decline of traditional white America even as its readership dies off even faster.

    Good point.

    Also bothersome in this essay is the usual supremacism of the current day immigrant: “America sucks with its history of genocide, colonialism, etc., so we are here to replace those people with my wonderful untainted people. This may look like another form of genocide and colonialism, but I will explain to you why it is different” Nguyen hedges this a bit, at least, with some criticism in passing of Vietnam, but lets it slip some more with his musings, “Perhaps it is not so far-fetched to imagine that one day someone like me, born in Vietnam, might be sent back to Vietnam, despite having made more out of myself than many native-born Americans.”

    I guess we’re supposed to thank him on our way out the door for doing things we supposedly can’t do for ourselves.

    • Agree: Rosie
  43. The Man “reimagines” if he bastardizes Norman Rockwell’s paintings.

    You and I “appropriate” if we dress like an Amerindian on Halloween.

    Take note.

    • Agree: Federalist, L Woods
  44. We do not owe you white people enslavement to your rigid notions of America. Remember that slavery, the Chinese Exclusion Act, Japanese American internment, the denial of the vote and of citizenship to many people of color and women, were all legal. Justice comes before the law.

    America is going to change for the better. That means telling the truth about white supremacy and white privilege. That means holding capitalists Caucasians and Christians accountable for their evils. That means, as Leonard Pitts says, making America what it should be.

    • Replies: @anon
    shut up
    , @Buffalo Joe
    TD, lobby your mentor, Leonard Pitts, to write an op-ed where he says he hates white-Christians. You and Pitts don't have a set of balls between you.
    , @Redneck farmer
    Zimbabwe!
  45. @Clive Beaconsfield
    White dude tucked in the back corner on the Time cover reminds me of those WWII-era propaganda posters for the Commonwealth, where fighting men from across the empire were marching together in a rather unsubtle racial pecking order.

    https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/17043

    “White dude tucked in the back corner . . .”

    He looks very much like he was photoshopped as an afterthought: “Great picture. We have included everyone who gets to be an American. Oh wait . . . “

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Yes the White guy does look like he was 'shopped in. It also looks like they did a clumsy job of adding wrinkles around his mouth. They do delight in the thought that any remaining White men will be dead in ten years anyway. They are truly vile people.
  46. Anyone with a pulse anywhere on earth is more American than current American citizens, and thus have the right to replace these. It should make sense according to the current narrative but it sounds crazy to me! Not being currently American IS being American. It’s who we are or will be.

  47. Ourselves and our posterity?

  48. The answer can only be Anglo-Saxons and those who assimilate seamlessly with Anglo-Saxons such as German and Scandinavian immigrants. This is the consensus view of America for the vast majority of her people and her leadership since the Founding, and of her Founders themselves.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "The answer can only be Anglo-Saxons and those who assimilate seamlessly with Anglo-Saxons such as German and Scandinavian immigrants."

    How dare you support race mixing!

    , @Anon
    Leadership of America??????? You’ve obviously never read a word of American history. The leadership of Jamestown allowed the first shipment of Africans to land and stay in 1619 and continued eagerly importing them till 1808 and thus created America’s biggest, most long lasting problem that will never be solved.

    In the 1640s the leadership were thrilled when Cromwell sent about 75,000 non Anglo Saxon non German Celtic Irish Roman Catholic slaves to the colonies and the British kept sending themuntil the revolution.

    From about 1820 until 1924 the great Anglo Saxon leadership sent recruiters to every non Anglo Saxon non Wasp corner of Europe and even non Protestant eastern Christian countries such as Syria and Lebanon to find cheap labor to as to drive the American Anglo saxons out of work.

    Why do you think the west ward expansion took off after about 1820? It wasn’t the leadership and their non WASP cheap labor immigrants.

    It was the original WASP settlers driven out of the east coast by the WASP founding leadership and their prefence for non WASP cheap labor.

    The WASP leadership since 1619 has always used non WASP immigrants from 1600s Africans and Irish Catholics to the non WASP non Whites immigrant hordes of today against the rest of us WASPs.

    The WASP leadership was in decline from 1900 on. By 1970 they were destroyed and took the rest of us with them.

    Consider, the person most responsible for getting us into WW1 was Sam Untermyer son of German Jewish immigrants. His blackmail of idiot ultra WASP leader president Wilson was the single most motivating factor for Wilson.

    BTW, many of the founders Presidents generals and other leaders weren’t Anglo saxons at all, but Scots and Scots Irish who were ethnically, culturally and religiously pure Scots who only stayed in Ireland for a few decades.

    Mark Twain had it right when he diagnosed Walter Scott disease 170 years ago.

    Don’t blame the African Irish and other non WASP immigrants for the demise of the WASPS. Blame the WASP leadership.

    And I wish you wouldn’t use the word WASP. It’s a perjorative, a hateful slur, no different from dago, fag or wop invented by immigrant Jews in the early 20 th century
    , @Cagey Beast
    Aren't you about 150 years too late?
  49. @Wilkey
    I'd like to do a study. I'd like to hook up every single person on that cover to a lie detector and ask them 1) Who gets to be American?; b) Who gets to be a citizen of your native country?; c) How do you feel about whites becoming a minority in America?; and d) How would you feel if immigration into your country were turning your people into a minority?

    But seriously that would make a great study.

    If their answers aren't reasonably consistent then the answer to "who gets to be American" should be "not you."

    Lee Jussim at Rutgers has been doing similar studies looking at people’s responses to politically correct statements by looking at brain activity (which is actually more reliable than a lie detector) and getting some interesting results. Added bonus- this was done in solidly blue state NJ.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Lee Jussim at Rutgers has been doing similar studies looking at people’s responses to politically correct statements by looking at brain activity (which is actually more reliable than a lie detector) and getting some interesting results. Added bonus- this was done in solidly blue state NJ.

     

    New Jersey is the most segregated state in the United States if you go by town lines. At least it was.

    Ask fat boy mass immigration fanatic Chris Christie why he moved to the mostly White town of Mendham, New Jersey. Some damn wag will say the "ham" in Mendham got the attention of walrus rump Christie, but it ain't so.

    Hey Christie, don't offer Shelly Adelson any ham with mustard -- or talk about the word "occupation" or "occupied" -- if you want to pry some loot out of Adelson.

  50. Whoever decides they decided that white Europeans were no longer allowed to be.The chances of large numbers of Europeans being allowed in to refresh original stock is about zero I’d guess.

  51. Is the woman with the broad headband supposed to be a Native American?

    Speaking about Native Americans, the people from whom we are told we stole the land, do they have any say in who gets to be an American? I’ve never understood how someone can hold the view that the land belongs to the natives while simultaneously believing the land belongs everyone. I remember Midnight Oil’s song Beds are Burning where they kept singing the refrain, ” It belongs to them, Let’s give it back.”

    Well how can you give it back after you have invited the entire world to take possession of it?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Open borders fanatics only use the Amerindians as a mascot/hammer with which to beat white goyim into submission. I definitely don't think Amerindians really benefit from mass immigration in any way.
    , @GSR
    We didn't steal the land from "Native Americans". Hundreds of years ago, just like throughout all of human history, land belonged to whoever was strong enough to keep it. "Native Americans", really were members of many different tribes, practically a Stone Age civilization, hopelessly unable to fend of more advanced European and then American settlers. Similar happened in just about every country around the world that exists today.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    iStevefan, funny how the explorers and settlers stole land from people, Native Americans, who stole land, and women and children, from other tribes. I guess the American dream is based on theft.
    , @Random Smartaleck

    I’ve never understood how someone can hold the view that the land belongs to the natives while simultaneously believing the land belongs everyone.
     
    Or how non-Native non-Whites think they get a free pass to stay on "occupied" land simply because they aren't White. Sorry guys, from the Native perspective you are just as much invaders as we are.

    The funniest version of this comes from Latinos who assert that this is "our" land because they are "native" too. But unless the Native portion of their ancestry is from the local tribe, their claim to the land is no more legitimate than any White man's. It's like a Frenchman claiming the right to illegally occupy land in Hungary simply because "we are all one White people". Yeah, that would fly about as well as it would between a mestizo and a Comanche.
  52. Pajeet Heer gets to decide. That’s who.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Treason by our society elites is the only way his people could replace us. Left to the natural order we’d be handily replacing him and his while they fetch us our dinner and lug our bags around.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Jeet Heer can sit in Toronto and tell the White people who took him in that his kind will replace us. I, on the other hand, can't tell him off without risking the power of the state and corporations coming down on me. These tinted brats are the spoilt adopted children of our ruling class. The rest of us get smacked if we look at little Jeet or Nguyen the wrong way. We can't get out the family photo album and reminisce about the days before they joined our family because it makes the tinted ones feel left out. We get lectured all day about how insensitive we are to our incredibly talented new siblings. We get told how much better family members they are than the rest of us.

    .... and the adopted brats just consider this the bare minimum they deserve. Just keep it up all you Jeets & Nguyens, just keep it up.
  53. @Barnard
    Time claims the median age of their readers is 50. That is possibly true for website views, but for the print magazine that is hard to believe.

    …claims the median age

    Probably the usual spin, e.g they count part of institutional subscriptions as being the young cohort.

  54. Does anyone read Time anymore?

    • Replies: @Anon
    If my experience is a guide, no one does. With full-time care of my 90+ Mom, I'm frequently in various medical offices. First off, Time isn't even found in most of them. For example, in a high-volume Orthopod practice in SF, nowhere to be seen. In offices where it is lying around, I've never seen anyone puck one up. My dentist's office has SI, Outdoors, various women's issues, even Highlights, but no Time. I actually remember a Time cover story from 1998: "Work is Hell," about the proliferation of bullshit and how you can't just be yourself. By did they have that one right.
  55. It’s actually a good article, besides the highly dubious claim that there is any serious desire among anyone in power to strip citizenship from naturalized citizens.

    I think any thinking person can understand feeling ambiguous about their country, or at least about the US. I can relate to much of what he wrote. “I love my country” is not a sentiment I feel comfortable expressing. “I love everything about my country”, even less so. Of course, if I wrote an article about the things I dislike about the US, it would not be published in Time or any other mainstream publication.

    • Replies: @Gracebear
    I’m sorry that AndrewR can’t bring himself to say “I love my country.” I, a “thinking person,” can say it easily, honestly, proudly, and gratefully.
  56. @istevefan
    Is the woman with the broad headband supposed to be a Native American?

    Speaking about Native Americans, the people from whom we are told we stole the land, do they have any say in who gets to be an American? I've never understood how someone can hold the view that the land belongs to the natives while simultaneously believing the land belongs everyone. I remember Midnight Oil's song Beds are Burning where they kept singing the refrain, " It belongs to them, Let's give it back."

    Well how can you give it back after you have invited the entire world to take possession of it?

    Open borders fanatics only use the Amerindians as a mascot/hammer with which to beat white goyim into submission. I definitely don’t think Amerindians really benefit from mass immigration in any way.

  57. @Wilkey
    It's convenient that they ask a guy like Viet Thanh Nguyen, who hails from a country absolutely no one wants to immigrate to. Why not have a Japanese author? Then we could ask him in reply "who gets to be Japanese?"

    I'm not just making the normal point about hypocrisy, as good a point as that is. If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren't we asking "who gets to be Japanese" or "who gets to be Israeli" or a citizen of any other country? The Left never hesitates to impose it's values on other countries in any other number of ways. Why isn't it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?

    Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.

    Once upon a time a Time magazine cover story would have meant something. In 2017 alone it's circulation fell by 33%, from 3 million to 2 million. "New" Americans have never bought the magazine. Legacy Americans no longer want to. I'd guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old, who only continue to buy out of inertia. It's the kind of magazine which celebrates the death and decline of traditional white America even as its readership dies off even faster.

    “If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren’t we asking “who gets to be Japanese” or “who gets to be Israeli” or a citizen of any other country?”

    Some on the left pose these questions. Others, however, are more focused here in the States,

    “The Left never hesitates to impose it’s values on other countries in any other number of ways.”

    You mean the Left And the Right engages in such action.

    “Why isn’t it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?”

    First things first. The elites have to take over America before they take over the world!

    “Legacy Americans…”

    Would only be Americans who are able to definitively show that their ancestors on both sides had been here prior to the Revolutionary War. Do you meet the criteria?

    UNLESS…

    “Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.”

    Exactly! We do, the citizens, which consists of different racial and ethnic groups.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    UNLESS…

    “Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.”

    Exactly! We do, the citizens, which consists of different racial and ethnic groups.
     
    Exactly. The future belongs to those who will literally fight for it. And there will be fighting. As in the past—when the definition of “American” is contested—guns, explosions, fire and deprivation will determine who gets to be American.

    ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8LLKO0-PAE
  58. Future (?) President Harris says that the children of illegal aliens “represent the best of who we are.”

    Twitter:
    Kamala Harris

    @KamalaHarris

    DACA recipients represent the best of who we are as a nation and when given the opportunity to reach their full potential, they will succeed. Congratulations Jin Park!https://twitter.com/thecrimson/status/1064534024662777861
    The Harvard Crimson

    @thecrimson

    Harvard Senior Becomes First DACA Recipient to Win Rhodes Scholarship http://ow.ly/3j8G30mFew3

    Interestingly, Jin Park does not sound Hispanic!!

  59. @Federalist
    Who gets to be an American? How about the kind of people who created America (and invented/created/discovered just about everything in existence) and not the kind of people who created Third World shitholes?

    That way America can be America and not - judging by the cover art - a society of stone age savages, a medieval theocracy, a collection of castes inhabiting a cesspool, or a society of Mestizo peasants.

    “How about the kind of people who created America (**and invented/created/discovered just about everything in existence**) and not the kind of people who created Third World shitholes?”

    **“White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East). Bear in mind that there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time.

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is “natural”. Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like “your kind” were the only ones. It is no longer “natural” anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions–gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press–in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate “Third World shitholes”.

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother’s and father’s side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon, Clyde
    • Replies: @Anon
    What’s the significance of 1763?

    End of the French and Indian war when the Americans decided to defy the treaty the English made with the Indians and invade Indian territory in violation of the treaties and the legitimate English government? Perhaps only descendants of men who actually fought in that war should be considered American.

    By fought I mean actually fought, not quarter masters teamsters and other support troops.
    , @Federalist
    The Phoenicians and Egyptians were white by any reasonable definition. But you are correct in pointing out that they were not European.

    The Chinese did some good stuff a long time ago. Thanks China. How about we can all use each other's technology, but we can have our own countries?

    Maybe I am unfairly negative about the Third World. They've created wonderful societies. Why do they need to come here?

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is “natural”. Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like “your kind” were the only ones. It is no longer “natural” anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.
     
    For the record, I'm completely against slavery, even when white people are guilty.

    ...the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate “Third World shitholes”.
     
    Sure. It's European imperialism that is still all these years later holding back the various peoples of color.
    , @istevefan

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother’s and father’s side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.
     
    Not according the the Naturalization Act of 1790 which was written by many of our Founders and signed into law by the Founding Father himself.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions–gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press–in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate “Third World shitholes”.
     
    Can you give me the specific years or centuries about which you are referring to when you wrote that "Europeans promptly engaged in imperialism".
    , @AndrewR
    I love you. You're like Tiny Duck with an additional twenty IQ points.
    , @Anonymous
    And what if we can trace back our lineage this way? I can; maybe we should have a vote on immigration policy among those who can? Given how widely unpopular the current policies are esp among whites I’m guessing it would be a lot more restrictive than it currently is.

    But let’s go with your idea and say that we were mistaken in letting in people after 1763. If so, then it wouldn’t refute halting or reducing immigration now. In fact our country felt before, in the 1920s, that immigration had been too problematic and put an immigration moratorium into effect for 40 years. Maybe we should follow suit? We also are not bound by whatever choice we made in the past, whether it was to open or close borders. We have the capacity to assess what is going on anew and decide. But that decision needs to be by those who are already here not by those who want to come merely because they feel it is better for them. I wouldn’t mind living in the mansions of many Dem leaders. Should I have the right to just self select my way in because I want to, without their say? Fundamentally it’s not that different.

    , @anon

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is “natural”. Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it.
     
    and you're the type of person who wants to blame only whites
  60. Clearly people wearing funny hats get to be American!

    Break out the tricorns!

  61. “Perhaps it is not so far-fetched to imagine that one day someone like me, born in Vietnam, might be sent back to Vietnam . . .

    It really is far-fetched but we can always dream.

    … despite having made more out of myself than many native-born Americans.”

    He definitely made more of a pest of himself.

  62. @HunInTheSun
    The answer can only be Anglo-Saxons and those who assimilate seamlessly with Anglo-Saxons such as German and Scandinavian immigrants. This is the consensus view of America for the vast majority of her people and her leadership since the Founding, and of her Founders themselves.

    “The answer can only be Anglo-Saxons and those who assimilate seamlessly with Anglo-Saxons such as German and Scandinavian immigrants.”

    How dare you support race mixing!

  63. @Wilkey
    It's convenient that they ask a guy like Viet Thanh Nguyen, who hails from a country absolutely no one wants to immigrate to. Why not have a Japanese author? Then we could ask him in reply "who gets to be Japanese?"

    I'm not just making the normal point about hypocrisy, as good a point as that is. If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren't we asking "who gets to be Japanese" or "who gets to be Israeli" or a citizen of any other country? The Left never hesitates to impose it's values on other countries in any other number of ways. Why isn't it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?

    Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.

    Once upon a time a Time magazine cover story would have meant something. In 2017 alone it's circulation fell by 33%, from 3 million to 2 million. "New" Americans have never bought the magazine. Legacy Americans no longer want to. I'd guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old, who only continue to buy out of inertia. It's the kind of magazine which celebrates the death and decline of traditional white America even as its readership dies off even faster.

    I didn’t even know Time Magazine was still in business until I had to start seeing Drs. recently . It’s in the waiting rooms . It’s not my father’s Time any more . Luce must be spinning in his grave .
    “In September 2018, Meredith announced the sale of Time to Marc Benioff and his wife Lynne for $190 million.” Marc Benioff a Jew from SF .”In 2016, he was named one of Fortune’s 50 World’s Greatest Leaders for his commitment to equality for all and other social issues as CEO”. ” Benioff led a global effort of business leaders fighting back against Religious Freedom Restoration Act ultimately leading to the Indiana State Legislature’s passing an amendment to the bill containing protections for LGBT customers, tenants and employees.” Benioff supported Hillary Clinton for President of the United States in the 2016 presidential election. So basically a “termite”.
    During the second half of 2009, the magazine had a 34.9% decline in newsstand sales . During the first half of 2010, another decline of at least one-third in Time magazine sales occurred. In the second half of 2010, Time magazine newsstand sales declined by about 12% to just over 79,000 copies per week.
    Time initially possessed a distinctive writing style, making regular use of inverted sentences. This was parodied in 1936 by Wolcott Gibbs in The New Yorker: “Backward ran sentences until reeled the mind [...] Where it all will end, knows God!” Sounds like Yoda another SJW . Embrace the dark side .

  64. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @Digital Samizdat
    Why does the Indian (feathers, not dots) in the picture look so much like a dark-haired Hillary Clinton?

    Just subtly putting her face in your brain and maybe even associating it with minorities (where she did poorly) looking ahead to the 2020 election. Sounds a bit far fetched but the way the left and corporations have been behaving recently I really wouldn’t put it past them. They certainly drive home their other messages through plenty of other indirect mechanisms.

  65. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anthony Wayne
    On the subject of immigrants’ cousins, I’ve never understood how clannishness (as opposed to the nuclear family) makes one more likely to marry his cousins. Healthy cultures do not produce this outcome.

    On topic: Michigan judge dismisses female genital mutilation cases. Everyone on earth has a fundamental right to come to the US and savagely abuse their daughters.

    Judge Bernard Friedman is; quelle suprise! a Jew. His ruling legalizing gay marriage in Michigan and then presiding over the wedding and staying for the grandiose reception was celebrated in the Detroit Jewish News as another marvelous example of how the virtuous and saintly Jews are maki g America a better and better place with every warped judicial decision.

    The argument for the defense of the FGM drs and parents was that the federal law making FGM illegal was not debated, but just proposed and quickly passed by Congress.
    So the good Jewish judge Friedman has set another precedent, that no federal
    Law is valid unless it has been extensively debated before passing.

    Given that precedent the next time a US president is murdered, the defendant can’t be tried and convicted in a federal court but in the state in which the president was killed

    After all in November 1963, there was no federal law forbidding the nursery of a president so if Oswald had lived he would have been tried in Texas

    After the murder of Kennedy a federal law was swiftly passed without debate making the murder of a president a federal crime.

    So next time a president is murdered the defense can argue the federal law wasn’t debated sufficiently.

    So now the precedent has been set that laws can be overturned if they were not sufficiently debated before passing

    FGM wasn’t yet illegal in Michigan when it was committed. I suppose the county prosecutor could try great bodily injury and mayhem but they’d probably get another Jewish judge.

    If the case gets to the Supreme Court I’m sure the 3 feminazis will vote in favor of the Muslim practice of FMG aka child molestatiin, assault and battery, assault with a deadly weapon great bodily injury and mayhem

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    This is just plainly wrong, though. Nobody who looks at this comes away thinking that's how the law works, these same idiosyncracies protect my own rights. He's a political activist who shoved unambiguous standing law aside to protect people who want to mutilate helpless children.
    The establishment has made its decision. It does not care about credibility or authority. They want conflict, probably because they have decided they will win. This is on the same level as that attention whore presiding over the Anna Nichol Smith debacle who burst into tears on camera.
  66. Obama following in the footstep of Trump. He wants to be a TV star.

    Celebrity > Presidency

  67. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "How about the kind of people who created America (**and invented/created/discovered just about everything in existence**) and not the kind of people who created Third World shitholes?"

    **“White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East). Bear in mind that there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time.

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is "natural". Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like "your kind" were the only ones. It is no longer "natural" anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions--gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press--in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate "Third World shitholes".

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother's and father's side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.

    What’s the significance of 1763?

    End of the French and Indian war when the Americans decided to defy the treaty the English made with the Indians and invade Indian territory in violation of the treaties and the legitimate English government? Perhaps only descendants of men who actually fought in that war should be considered American.

    By fought I mean actually fought, not quarter masters teamsters and other support troops.

  68. How about we make it easy, and just declare a moratorium on all immigration. Let someone else carry the immigration baton for 50 years. I am sure China or Niger or Paraguay or some other sap, er, country, is up for the job.
    Steve are you enjoying the gridlocked 405 out there that I am reading about? The media tells us “record traffic” for Thanksgiving this year! I wonder where all these people are coming from?

  69. @Anonymous
    Lee Jussim at Rutgers has been doing similar studies looking at people’s responses to politically correct statements by looking at brain activity (which is actually more reliable than a lie detector) and getting some interesting results. Added bonus- this was done in solidly blue state NJ.

    Lee Jussim at Rutgers has been doing similar studies looking at people’s responses to politically correct statements by looking at brain activity (which is actually more reliable than a lie detector) and getting some interesting results. Added bonus- this was done in solidly blue state NJ.

    New Jersey is the most segregated state in the United States if you go by town lines. At least it was.

    Ask fat boy mass immigration fanatic Chris Christie why he moved to the mostly White town of Mendham, New Jersey. Some damn wag will say the “ham” in Mendham got the attention of walrus rump Christie, but it ain’t so.

    Hey Christie, don’t offer Shelly Adelson any ham with mustard — or talk about the word “occupation” or “occupied” — if you want to pry some loot out of Adelson.

  70. One more observation about this cover story. Written by a non-European and featuring an almost entirely non-European cast of characters, one needs to remember that Europeans are still 62% of the population. Of course people on this blog realize that 62% means little since it is dropping each year, and even with a complete shutdown of immigration, birth rates and such would still push us in the same direction. But that is not the point of this comment.

    Rather I am pointing out how people seem to be lulled into complacency so long as they think they are in the majority. And then are quite surprised to learn that it doesn’t take the other side accumulating 50% to make drastic changes that forever alter the situation.

    I recall when Pat Buchanan first raised the immigration issue in 1992. I had friends telling me that this was a non-issue since Hispanics were not even 9 percent of the population. They thought I was wasting my time listening to Pat argue about something so insignificant. Yet by the time Hispanics hit 10 percent of the population,they were in a position to prevent immigration restrictions on Latin America.

    At 10 percent a political party was bound to see them as an ally in their fight with the other party, and thus would fight tooth and nail to keep them coming. Additionally Spanish became a de facto second language, from government forms to the aisles of Home Depot. Even today Hispanics are just approaching 18%, well below 50%, but they are a force to be reckoned with.

    I am sure those guys from 1992 would be surprised how much things have changed given that “WE” are still over 50% of the population. But most people just can’t see it that way. They think that if they are in the majority all is well. However, there are exceptions where people seem to understand that a small change can poison the well.

    For example, most whites will not send their kids to a school that is 50% black. In fact many would consider 10% or even a 5% black student population to be a tipping point to avoid if they can afford to. Yet they just don’t seem to get this with the national population figures.

    Now we have other groups coming in large numbers. I think muslims are closing in on 2 percent. Of course I meet the same type of people today who tell me that a 1 percent or 2 percent muslim population is no big deal. But then what is the number where such a population starts to make a material change to your society? In Europe it seems that places with 5% experience calls for separate islamic law and the like. We already have implemented security measures at airports and public events that I would never have imagined. And that is with a muslim population of under 2 percent. What will happen here when they reach 5 percent?

    The bottom line is people feel safe behind the perception that they are in the majority. But fail to realize it doesn’t take a majority of the other to materially affect your nation. On that I will close from this quote from the late Lawrence Auster.

    A traditionalist is a person who sees a threat to his society the moment it appears. A conservative is a person who sees the threat to his society after it’s already done a lot of damage. A liberal is a person who only sees sees the threat to his society after it’s too late to do anything about it—or he never sees it at all.

    • Replies: @Anon
    My definition of a liberal is a person who sees nothing good about his own people and society and nothing bad about other peoples and socities
    , @Anon
    Or, how about a liberal is a person who welcomes and facilitates threats and damage to his civilization.
    , @Rosie

    Rather I am pointing out how people seem to be lulled into complacency so long as they think they are in the majority.
     
    Which is why this Time cover is most welcome IMO.
    , @Altai
    The other thing is the majority is atomised and doesn't act in collective self-interest. Well organised minorities will always exert more influence over issues if they face no competition. Eventually it may be a situation that the mass immigration just never stops.

    In many ways since this kind of immigration is relatively novel outside literal invasion, we only have a few examples of it being curtailed. The 1928 immigration act in the US, the restriction of commonwealth immigrants coming to the UK (Contra conventional wisdom today, Enoch Powell won, his speech and campaigning did get immigration restriction.) and the 'white Australia' policy which again contra conventional wisdom restricted the massive Southern and Eastern European immigration as well as Asian.

    And as we are all aware all of these policies were in place for a couple of decades before falling again. We've yet to see a situation whereby the voting population becomes so rootless as to stop caring as much about immigration restriction (Even if they are against it, as most more established poorer ethnic communities are, they'll be given as much option on the matter as business interests can buy and be sufficiently less motivated by the issue as to let it slide) and the entire society collapses into a Dubai-style malaise and becomes a fiefdom of corporate interests that exudes emigrants.

  71. @Bragadocious
    This guy checks all the boxes in his story:

    - Says he's better and smarter than native born Americans (the Apu Theory)

    - Uses the pronoun "I" about 7 billion times

    - Claims, fraudulently, that Trump wants to deport naturalized citizens

    Fun fact: There are more than 2000 Nguyens in state prison in California. Are they more accomplished than average Americans?

    Says he’s better and smarter than native born Americans (the Apu Theory)

    so that entitles him to steal what Americans built?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I always hate this attitude coming from immigrants. They import an attitude of distain for the working classes that’s foreign to America. These immigrants are often the elite in their native country and it’s thier own exploitation of the poorer people that often makes these places so unpleasant. The broad middle class is the greatest achievement of America. You can see it dwindling. The globalists seem a bit too at ease being a condescending, paternalistic (maternalistic?) overclass to a poor and needy population.
    , @Rosie

    so that entitles him to steal what Americans built?
     
    He doesn't think we built it. These people actually believe in lucky dirt theory.
  72. @Corvinus
    "How about the kind of people who created America (**and invented/created/discovered just about everything in existence**) and not the kind of people who created Third World shitholes?"

    **“White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East). Bear in mind that there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time.

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is "natural". Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like "your kind" were the only ones. It is no longer "natural" anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions--gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press--in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate "Third World shitholes".

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother's and father's side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.

    The Phoenicians and Egyptians were white by any reasonable definition. But you are correct in pointing out that they were not European.

    The Chinese did some good stuff a long time ago. Thanks China. How about we can all use each other’s technology, but we can have our own countries?

    Maybe I am unfairly negative about the Third World. They’ve created wonderful societies. Why do they need to come here?

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is “natural”. Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like “your kind” were the only ones. It is no longer “natural” anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.

    For the record, I’m completely against slavery, even when white people are guilty.

    …the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate “Third World shitholes”.

    Sure. It’s European imperialism that is still all these years later holding back the various peoples of color.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "The Phoenicians...were white by any reasonable definition."

    Yet to be determined.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3611457/Ancient-DNA-study-finds-Phoenician-Carthage-European-ancestry.html

    "How about we can all use each other’s technology, but we can have our own countries?"

    We do have our own countries. Really don't know why that is hard for you to understand.
  73. @Tiny Duck
    We do not owe you white people enslavement to your rigid notions of America. Remember that slavery, the Chinese Exclusion Act, Japanese American internment, the denial of the vote and of citizenship to many people of color and women, were all legal. Justice comes before the law.

    America is going to change for the better. That means telling the truth about white supremacy and white privilege. That means holding capitalists Caucasians and Christians accountable for their evils. That means, as Leonard Pitts says, making America what it should be.

    shut up

  74. @AndrewR
    It's actually a good article, besides the highly dubious claim that there is any serious desire among anyone in power to strip citizenship from naturalized citizens.

    I think any thinking person can understand feeling ambiguous about their country, or at least about the US. I can relate to much of what he wrote. "I love my country" is not a sentiment I feel comfortable expressing. "I love everything about my country", even less so. Of course, if I wrote an article about the things I dislike about the US, it would not be published in Time or any other mainstream publication.

    I’m sorry that AndrewR can’t bring himself to say “I love my country.” I, a “thinking person,” can say it easily, honestly, proudly, and gratefully.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Way to misconstrue what I said lol

    And for the record, I certainly love certain aspects of the US. But besides a few types of freedom which I value, there's nothing that's both good and unique about the US.
    , @AndrewR
    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald's, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You're free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can't bring myself to do so.
  75. @Corvinus
    "How about the kind of people who created America (**and invented/created/discovered just about everything in existence**) and not the kind of people who created Third World shitholes?"

    **“White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East). Bear in mind that there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time.

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is "natural". Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like "your kind" were the only ones. It is no longer "natural" anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions--gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press--in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate "Third World shitholes".

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother's and father's side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother’s and father’s side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.

    Not according the the Naturalization Act of 1790 which was written by many of our Founders and signed into law by the Founding Father himself.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions–gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press–in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate “Third World shitholes”.

    Can you give me the specific years or centuries about which you are referring to when you wrote that “Europeans promptly engaged in imperialism”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Blacks were also slaves, there was discrimination, sexism, etc., in 1790. In other words, America was inconsistent and not fully, "really" American back then, since America is believed by most people today to be a "nation of immigrants" dedicated to equality and opposed to "discrimination", "racism", etc. This is why appealing to the 1790 Naturalization Act doesn't get anywhere today. It's like appealing to slavery today to justify policies towards blacks. The meta-belief or ideology is that America is a "nation of immigrants" that's for equality and against racism and discrimination. You have to change the meta-belief or ideology first before making appeals to the past to justify policies today.
    , @Corvinus
    "Not according the the Naturalization Act of 1790 which was written by many of our Founders and signed into law by the Founding Father himself."

    My reference was to Vox Day's insistence that the only "true" Americans are those who have a direct line to the Thirteen Colonies. Regardless, that piece of legislation was subject to changes by future generations, i.e. our posterity.

    "Can you give me the specific years or centuries about which you are referring to when you wrote that “Europeans promptly engaged in imperialism”."

    Well, you have the Crusades of the 1100-1400's, and then the Age of Exploration from 1400 onward. I see where you are calling me out for using the word "promptly". Regardless, white people who insist they developed everything in the world while minimizing the damage they also inflicted around the world are idiots.
  76. Anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:

    I remember that line in Apocalypse Now (or was it Full Metal Jacket?), where the stereotypically crazed American Military commander says ‘inside every one of these gooks, there’s an American just trying to get out’. At the time this was, of course, a criticism of the Ugly American and his cultural narrow mindedness, but now days it seems like the left has gone all in on this attitude.

    All the world’s peoples must become Americanized …it has actually come to this. It seems like everything’s upside down now. The old conservative white American would be happy to stay at home and mind his business. The ‘left’ wants the global mass Western ‘liberal’ culture for everyone… even if it comes at the end of a gun barrel. It’s truly a strange transformation…amazing to witness.

  77. Ari “No Parentheses Necessary” Bines reminds you that no trustworthy person could possibly have a legitimate reason to not have a facebook account.

    https://babe.net/2018/01/08/trust-me-not-him-if-a-guy-doesnt-have-social-media-you-absolutely-cant-trust-him-27126

  78. @Alec Leamas
    I think that pregnant in Mr. Nguyen's question is the real question, which is: "Who gets to decide who gets to be American?"

    The "artwork" accompanying the question seems to provide the answer to Mr. Nguyen's rhetorical question: "Not you, whitey."

    Wrong. As always, rich white people who love immigrants because they can pay them peanuts and because they completely divide and conquer the white working class (look at yourself, playing the ID politics game) get to do the deciding. Get it straight.

  79. Many Americans consider the war to be a noble, if possibly flawed, example of American good intentions. And while there is some truth to that, it was also simply a continuation of French colonization, a war that was racist and imperialist at its roots and in its practices. As such, this war was just one manifestation of a centuries-long expansion of the American empire that began from its own colonial birth and ran through the frontier, the American West, Mexico, Hawaii, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Philippines, Japan, Korea, Vietnam and now the Middle East.

    Yeah, giving it to YT good and hard here…..Dunno about referencing both the “frontier” and the “American West”….Maybe a bit redundant, you know, what with the West also being the frontier….Eh, let the editors at TIME (they still have those, right?) decide….Will anybody notice that France (all that territory that they lost in the French and Indian War) and Germany (I seem to remember that Japan and Nazi Germany had some kind of partnership way back when….What was it called…the Axis?) are omitted from the list? Nah, only racist White supremacist cis-het males would notice something like that….

    One war might be a mistake. A long series of wars is a pattern.

    Oooo, yeah, YT’s going to feel that one….Of course, somebody might mention the fact that the USA had two back-to-back wars with Germany in the 20th century….and how many colonial wars did the Angl0-American colonists fight against the French….Let’s see, King William’s War, Queen Anne’s War, King George’s War, The French and Indian War….But nobody remembers those….

    Indians were the original terrorists in the American imagination.

    Remember, any atrocities committed by the Amerinds were strictly imaginary….

    The genocide committed against them by white settlers is Thanksgiving’s ugly side,

    Wait, do I mean that genocide happened at the first Thanksgiving….Or do I mean it in a symbolic way?

    not quite remembered but not really forgotten,

    I mean, nobody gets taught about bad stuff happening to Amerinds in school, right?

    even in France, where images of a half-naked Native American in a feathered headdress can also be found. Centuries later, the latent memory of genocide — or the celebration of conquest — would surface when American GIs called hostile Vietnamese territory “Indian country.”

    See! I should count as both East Asian and as Amerind!

    Now Muslims are the new gooks

    Yeah, yeah, I know…..If I were Black, I would have said that they were the new ni****s…..

    while terrorists are the new communists

    Wait, am I implying that Muslim terrorists have killed tens of millions of people….Like the communists did (1937-1938 Blood Purge,Mao’s Cultural Revolution, Pol Pot’s massacres in Cambodia, Ukrainian Famine, etc., etc)…..

  80. @Gracebear
    I’m sorry that AndrewR can’t bring himself to say “I love my country.” I, a “thinking person,” can say it easily, honestly, proudly, and gratefully.

    Way to misconstrue what I said lol

    And for the record, I certainly love certain aspects of the US. But besides a few types of freedom which I value, there’s nothing that’s both good and unique about the US.

  81. It’s funny how when the American media asks immigrants “Who Gets to Be American?” the answer usually turns out to be “My cousin.” Were immigrants alway quite so shamelessly nepotistic?

    Not until their numbers grew too large. It’s a strange kind of non-conquest, no group is able to remake the country for themselves, but all of them can make it into Dubai, terraform it for immigrants and recent immigrants rather than anyone with any roots.

    It’s a world where Ikea, Starbucks and Amazon reign.

    I think it has to be with a lack of empathy for what a native loses. Most immigrants come from places without much immigration, if any. When an immigrant goes to a new place, nobody is passively his kin (Except his countrymen) natives and other (Non co-ethnic) kin alike are just as alien to them (Except perhaps they may have greater language barriers to other non-native immigrants) so if the country is 10% immigrant or 20%, they don’t really notice. To a native, they notice. In the same way libertarians don’t get a sinking feeling when they see something privatised, the immigrant doesn’t understand why the native is so uncomfortable and sad being ethnically displaced (The immigrant themself may not even remember the host country prior to it’s Dubai-ification) in a process he not only is denied any control over (Or even any greater importance of opinion over than an immigrant) but denied the right to talk about. To the immigrant every new immigrant is just as much a stranger as a native, but to a native, every new immigrant is another person they don’t have any kind of kinship to who is actively displacing his ethny in his homeland. Whether they’d say so or not, every new immigrant reduces their sense of belonging.

    On the other hand, I think that more accounts for immigrant apathy, the host country is simply something to be plundered (‘Opened up’). For people like the author, they are aware of how badly it hurts the native ethny because they seem so pleased by it and view it with great importance. Usually born to immigrant parents, they are self-conscious of how ethnocentric they are and project this emotion onto the majority or plurality population. (Trust me, I’ve even seen this, for lack of a better word, twitchiness from people who were half-Italian born in London, even they were defensive of feeling outsiders.)

  82. Anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Says he’s better and smarter than native born Americans (the Apu Theory)
     
    so that entitles him to steal what Americans built?

    I always hate this attitude coming from immigrants. They import an attitude of distain for the working classes that’s foreign to America. These immigrants are often the elite in their native country and it’s thier own exploitation of the poorer people that often makes these places so unpleasant. The broad middle class is the greatest achievement of America. You can see it dwindling. The globalists seem a bit too at ease being a condescending, paternalistic (maternalistic?) overclass to a poor and needy population.

  83. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @HunInTheSun
    The answer can only be Anglo-Saxons and those who assimilate seamlessly with Anglo-Saxons such as German and Scandinavian immigrants. This is the consensus view of America for the vast majority of her people and her leadership since the Founding, and of her Founders themselves.

    Leadership of America??????? You’ve obviously never read a word of American history. The leadership of Jamestown allowed the first shipment of Africans to land and stay in 1619 and continued eagerly importing them till 1808 and thus created America’s biggest, most long lasting problem that will never be solved.

    In the 1640s the leadership were thrilled when Cromwell sent about 75,000 non Anglo Saxon non German Celtic Irish Roman Catholic slaves to the colonies and the British kept sending themuntil the revolution.

    From about 1820 until 1924 the great Anglo Saxon leadership sent recruiters to every non Anglo Saxon non Wasp corner of Europe and even non Protestant eastern Christian countries such as Syria and Lebanon to find cheap labor to as to drive the American Anglo saxons out of work.

    Why do you think the west ward expansion took off after about 1820? It wasn’t the leadership and their non WASP cheap labor immigrants.

    It was the original WASP settlers driven out of the east coast by the WASP founding leadership and their prefence for non WASP cheap labor.

    The WASP leadership since 1619 has always used non WASP immigrants from 1600s Africans and Irish Catholics to the non WASP non Whites immigrant hordes of today against the rest of us WASPs.

    The WASP leadership was in decline from 1900 on. By 1970 they were destroyed and took the rest of us with them.

    Consider, the person most responsible for getting us into WW1 was Sam Untermyer son of German Jewish immigrants. His blackmail of idiot ultra WASP leader president Wilson was the single most motivating factor for Wilson.

    BTW, many of the founders Presidents generals and other leaders weren’t Anglo saxons at all, but Scots and Scots Irish who were ethnically, culturally and religiously pure Scots who only stayed in Ireland for a few decades.

    Mark Twain had it right when he diagnosed Walter Scott disease 170 years ago.

    Don’t blame the African Irish and other non WASP immigrants for the demise of the WASPS. Blame the WASP leadership.

    And I wish you wouldn’t use the word WASP. It’s a perjorative, a hateful slur, no different from dago, fag or wop invented by immigrant Jews in the early 20 th century

    • Replies: @Anon
    Worst of all are the southern descendants of Irish and Scot convicts slaves and indentured servants deported to America by the English who claim to be Anglo Saxons.
    , @Anonymous
    Slavery in the English colonies may have first appeared in Jamestown in 1619 but by about 5 years later it was already in New England. The true king of slave trafficking in the US back in the day was the Massachusetts Bay Colony though the history books tend to be a bit forgetful about that part as it doesn’t fit the narrative of red state south evil slavers, blue state north virtuous slavery haters.
  84. @Gracebear
    I’m sorry that AndrewR can’t bring himself to say “I love my country.” I, a “thinking person,” can say it easily, honestly, proudly, and gratefully.

    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald’s, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You’re free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can’t bring myself to do so.

    • Replies: @anon
    its true, why would any sane white person claim to love America now?
    , @Mr. Anon

    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald’s, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You’re free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can’t bring myself to do so.
     
    Collectively, those things are called "The American Dream".

    Not my idea of a dream either.
    , @Art Deco
    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald’s, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You’re free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can’t bring myself to do so.

    1. Wal-Mart is an efficient purveyor of retail trade. No one is compelling you to shop ther.

    2. Wall Street: no clue how you fancy a modern economy operates without capital markets

    3. 'warmongering' is a nonsense term, not a coherent concept.

    4. NASCAR: if you don't like motorsports, don't spend your time on them. If you prefer Le Mans, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMoh5hZAaZk

    5. BLM: it's a lousy political movement, but one indulged in by the few. The Communist Party used to command a quarter of the French electorate, which is an indulgence of the many. You're not going to be free of ludicrous sectaries by emigrating. You'll just have ludicrous sectaries yapping at you in some foreign tongue.

    6. Third world cities are to be found in the third world. We have urban slums. Other than Detroit, they don't resemble 3d world cities in their amenities. The problem there is crime and disorder (about which very few people on these boards care about addressing).

    7. 'Hebrew supremacy' is a fantasy.

    8. 'Mass shootings' you find abroad as well. They're more likely to be politically-motivated in those loci, of course.

    9. 'obesity' is something you'll find the world over wherever malnutrition is uncommon

    10. McDonald's: no one is compelling you to eat there. (And it's also a global enterprise for a reason).

    11. 'shitty and overpriced health care' is a fantasy. You're not going to get better medical care by emigrating. You might find more rational cost allocation. (A subject in which no one on this board expresses and interest).

    12. 'Zionism': no clue why Israel bothers you, or what that has to do with daily life in America.

    13. 'gay pride parades': something you will find in every occidental country in the world with a certain threshold of affluence.

    14. 'Radical feminism': quite uncommon outside of college campuses, and, again a feature of intellectual life all over northern Europe, in Canada, &c.

    15. "The police state" is a fantasy.

    Your problem, really, is one you encounter when you look in the mirror.

  85. @istevefan
    Is the woman with the broad headband supposed to be a Native American?

    Speaking about Native Americans, the people from whom we are told we stole the land, do they have any say in who gets to be an American? I've never understood how someone can hold the view that the land belongs to the natives while simultaneously believing the land belongs everyone. I remember Midnight Oil's song Beds are Burning where they kept singing the refrain, " It belongs to them, Let's give it back."

    Well how can you give it back after you have invited the entire world to take possession of it?

    We didn’t steal the land from “Native Americans”. Hundreds of years ago, just like throughout all of human history, land belonged to whoever was strong enough to keep it. “Native Americans”, really were members of many different tribes, practically a Stone Age civilization, hopelessly unable to fend of more advanced European and then American settlers. Similar happened in just about every country around the world that exists today.

  86. Anon[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Does anyone read Time anymore?

    If my experience is a guide, no one does. With full-time care of my 90+ Mom, I’m frequently in various medical offices. First off, Time isn’t even found in most of them. For example, in a high-volume Orthopod practice in SF, nowhere to be seen. In offices where it is lying around, I’ve never seen anyone puck one up. My dentist’s office has SI, Outdoors, various women’s issues, even Highlights, but no Time. I actually remember a Time cover story from 1998: “Work is Hell,” about the proliferation of bullshit and how you can’t just be yourself. By did they have that one right.

  87. The American government was stupid spending all that money during the Cold War. They’d should simply have declared everyone in the USSR a US citizen and thus turned them all into Americans!

    Actually Israel is always starting having trouble with the people in the Gaza strip, they should just declare everyone in Gaza to be Israeli citizens with full voting rights! Turn them instantly into Israelis just like with the ‘Israeli-Arabs’, I mean, they have ‘Israeli-’ in the name!

  88. @Detective Club
    OFF TOPIC : This very old French lady thinks Merkel is Macron's wife!
    https://youtu.be/HlsLbu2sDQQ

    Given his taste in women, it was a reasonable guess.

  89. @istevefan
    One more observation about this cover story. Written by a non-European and featuring an almost entirely non-European cast of characters, one needs to remember that Europeans are still 62% of the population. Of course people on this blog realize that 62% means little since it is dropping each year, and even with a complete shutdown of immigration, birth rates and such would still push us in the same direction. But that is not the point of this comment.

    Rather I am pointing out how people seem to be lulled into complacency so long as they think they are in the majority. And then are quite surprised to learn that it doesn't take the other side accumulating 50% to make drastic changes that forever alter the situation.

    I recall when Pat Buchanan first raised the immigration issue in 1992. I had friends telling me that this was a non-issue since Hispanics were not even 9 percent of the population. They thought I was wasting my time listening to Pat argue about something so insignificant. Yet by the time Hispanics hit 10 percent of the population,they were in a position to prevent immigration restrictions on Latin America.

    At 10 percent a political party was bound to see them as an ally in their fight with the other party, and thus would fight tooth and nail to keep them coming. Additionally Spanish became a de facto second language, from government forms to the aisles of Home Depot. Even today Hispanics are just approaching 18%, well below 50%, but they are a force to be reckoned with.

    I am sure those guys from 1992 would be surprised how much things have changed given that "WE" are still over 50% of the population. But most people just can't see it that way. They think that if they are in the majority all is well. However, there are exceptions where people seem to understand that a small change can poison the well.

    For example, most whites will not send their kids to a school that is 50% black. In fact many would consider 10% or even a 5% black student population to be a tipping point to avoid if they can afford to. Yet they just don't seem to get this with the national population figures.

    Now we have other groups coming in large numbers. I think muslims are closing in on 2 percent. Of course I meet the same type of people today who tell me that a 1 percent or 2 percent muslim population is no big deal. But then what is the number where such a population starts to make a material change to your society? In Europe it seems that places with 5% experience calls for separate islamic law and the like. We already have implemented security measures at airports and public events that I would never have imagined. And that is with a muslim population of under 2 percent. What will happen here when they reach 5 percent?

    The bottom line is people feel safe behind the perception that they are in the majority. But fail to realize it doesn't take a majority of the other to materially affect your nation. On that I will close from this quote from the late Lawrence Auster.

    A traditionalist is a person who sees a threat to his society the moment it appears. A conservative is a person who sees the threat to his society after it’s already done a lot of damage. A liberal is a person who only sees sees the threat to his society after it’s too late to do anything about it—or he never sees it at all.
     

    My definition of a liberal is a person who sees nothing good about his own people and society and nothing bad about other peoples and socities

  90. @War for Blair Mountain
    Well...our next POTUS be the Hindu-Jamaican Kamala Harris. And this means that Kamala Harris and her vicious Hindu Attorney General Preet Bharara will get to determine who is an authentic “American”.....And what this means is that Kamala Harris’s and Preet Bharara’s people....Hindus...get to vote The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority(Steve...you have no idea how much self-control it took for me not to CAP THIS) into a White Raciality Foreigner within the borders of America..........

    Suppose the WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MEN(couldn’t control the impulse) who landed on Normandy Beach were given a crystal ball the night before D-Day and could see the aftermath of Nov 3 2020=Hindu Rule in America!!!!!.......I will let Steve’s Readers fill in the details.....

    This site has the best comments

  91. @istevefan
    One more observation about this cover story. Written by a non-European and featuring an almost entirely non-European cast of characters, one needs to remember that Europeans are still 62% of the population. Of course people on this blog realize that 62% means little since it is dropping each year, and even with a complete shutdown of immigration, birth rates and such would still push us in the same direction. But that is not the point of this comment.

    Rather I am pointing out how people seem to be lulled into complacency so long as they think they are in the majority. And then are quite surprised to learn that it doesn't take the other side accumulating 50% to make drastic changes that forever alter the situation.

    I recall when Pat Buchanan first raised the immigration issue in 1992. I had friends telling me that this was a non-issue since Hispanics were not even 9 percent of the population. They thought I was wasting my time listening to Pat argue about something so insignificant. Yet by the time Hispanics hit 10 percent of the population,they were in a position to prevent immigration restrictions on Latin America.

    At 10 percent a political party was bound to see them as an ally in their fight with the other party, and thus would fight tooth and nail to keep them coming. Additionally Spanish became a de facto second language, from government forms to the aisles of Home Depot. Even today Hispanics are just approaching 18%, well below 50%, but they are a force to be reckoned with.

    I am sure those guys from 1992 would be surprised how much things have changed given that "WE" are still over 50% of the population. But most people just can't see it that way. They think that if they are in the majority all is well. However, there are exceptions where people seem to understand that a small change can poison the well.

    For example, most whites will not send their kids to a school that is 50% black. In fact many would consider 10% or even a 5% black student population to be a tipping point to avoid if they can afford to. Yet they just don't seem to get this with the national population figures.

    Now we have other groups coming in large numbers. I think muslims are closing in on 2 percent. Of course I meet the same type of people today who tell me that a 1 percent or 2 percent muslim population is no big deal. But then what is the number where such a population starts to make a material change to your society? In Europe it seems that places with 5% experience calls for separate islamic law and the like. We already have implemented security measures at airports and public events that I would never have imagined. And that is with a muslim population of under 2 percent. What will happen here when they reach 5 percent?

    The bottom line is people feel safe behind the perception that they are in the majority. But fail to realize it doesn't take a majority of the other to materially affect your nation. On that I will close from this quote from the late Lawrence Auster.

    A traditionalist is a person who sees a threat to his society the moment it appears. A conservative is a person who sees the threat to his society after it’s already done a lot of damage. A liberal is a person who only sees sees the threat to his society after it’s too late to do anything about it—or he never sees it at all.
     

    Or, how about a liberal is a person who welcomes and facilitates threats and damage to his civilization.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Perhaps it is the progressive who fits your definition. I don't think Auster split progs from liberals in his writings. But maybe the two are not synonymous.
  92. @Corvinus
    "How about the kind of people who created America (**and invented/created/discovered just about everything in existence**) and not the kind of people who created Third World shitholes?"

    **“White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East). Bear in mind that there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time.

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is "natural". Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like "your kind" were the only ones. It is no longer "natural" anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions--gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press--in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate "Third World shitholes".

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother's and father's side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.

    I love you. You’re like Tiny Duck with an additional twenty IQ points.

  93. @rufus
    Like Lord Baltimore ? or perhaps Charles Carrol ? Save the saccharin schmalz you fuckin illiterate.

    ” … you fuckin illiterate.”

    You fuckin’ illiterate.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Somebody tell the bartender to cut Rufus off.
  94. @peterike
    PeterIke's Law is shifting into over-drive, and anti-white Asians are now thick on the ground and being published and promoted everywhere at once. It's going to get much worse and much sooner than you might think.

    I once met a guy of Chinese parentage from New York (Interesting guy, went against stereotype of son of Chinese immigrants, went into social work, in New York. Not only low paying but one of the most stressful and demoralising place for that occupation)

    When I casually mentioned that everyone in Ireland has such a fond image of New York, he almost reflexively immediately replied ‘Because of all the diversity?’. It took me aback so much I almost laughed.

    His also casually and with great happiness apparent running over his expression as if he had no concept such a statement ‘A lot of immigrants’ when commenting on Dublin.

  95. @Anon
    Leadership of America??????? You’ve obviously never read a word of American history. The leadership of Jamestown allowed the first shipment of Africans to land and stay in 1619 and continued eagerly importing them till 1808 and thus created America’s biggest, most long lasting problem that will never be solved.

    In the 1640s the leadership were thrilled when Cromwell sent about 75,000 non Anglo Saxon non German Celtic Irish Roman Catholic slaves to the colonies and the British kept sending themuntil the revolution.

    From about 1820 until 1924 the great Anglo Saxon leadership sent recruiters to every non Anglo Saxon non Wasp corner of Europe and even non Protestant eastern Christian countries such as Syria and Lebanon to find cheap labor to as to drive the American Anglo saxons out of work.

    Why do you think the west ward expansion took off after about 1820? It wasn’t the leadership and their non WASP cheap labor immigrants.

    It was the original WASP settlers driven out of the east coast by the WASP founding leadership and their prefence for non WASP cheap labor.

    The WASP leadership since 1619 has always used non WASP immigrants from 1600s Africans and Irish Catholics to the non WASP non Whites immigrant hordes of today against the rest of us WASPs.

    The WASP leadership was in decline from 1900 on. By 1970 they were destroyed and took the rest of us with them.

    Consider, the person most responsible for getting us into WW1 was Sam Untermyer son of German Jewish immigrants. His blackmail of idiot ultra WASP leader president Wilson was the single most motivating factor for Wilson.

    BTW, many of the founders Presidents generals and other leaders weren’t Anglo saxons at all, but Scots and Scots Irish who were ethnically, culturally and religiously pure Scots who only stayed in Ireland for a few decades.

    Mark Twain had it right when he diagnosed Walter Scott disease 170 years ago.

    Don’t blame the African Irish and other non WASP immigrants for the demise of the WASPS. Blame the WASP leadership.

    And I wish you wouldn’t use the word WASP. It’s a perjorative, a hateful slur, no different from dago, fag or wop invented by immigrant Jews in the early 20 th century

    Worst of all are the southern descendants of Irish and Scot convicts slaves and indentured servants deported to America by the English who claim to be Anglo Saxons.

    • Replies: @notanon
    they are - the difference is in England the polite ones are in the south and the rough ones are in the north

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Reivers
  96. @anon
    Pajeet Heer gets to decide. That's who.

    https://www.twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1065059047261593600

    Treason by our society elites is the only way his people could replace us. Left to the natural order we’d be handily replacing him and his while they fetch us our dinner and lug our bags around.

  97. Mr. Nguyen is clearly conflicted. Admits that he couldn’t live in Vietnam now because he’d be in trouble with the government for what he writes. So like the US under Trump. All those concentration camps we have. He’s upset because a guy who read his book didn’t like it. He won the freaking Pulitzer prize for it. Does that mean we all have to like it or agree with it? His refugee parents went back to Vietnam twice to visit, then told him they weren’t going back again, they were Americans now. That’s who gets to be an American.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    I notice average immigrants are glad to be here, their kids, not so much.
  98. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:

    As an immigrant myself, I think today’s immigrants lack one major thing for America — gratitude. Thanks to identity politics, ethnic victimology and open borders pushed by the fifth columnists of the left, today’s immigrants are increasingly coming in with the attitude that they have every right to be in this country and every right to become citizen the moment they landed. American citizenship is no longer seen as a privilege but a right. Because of this attitude, they also no longer see the need to assimilate. This does not bode well for America’s future.

    This lack of gratitude is shown throughout Nguyen’s article. He completely took his citizenship for granted. The day I became a naturalized citizen was one of the happiest and proudest moments of my life. This is the greatest country on earth. I thank God everyday for America, but it is losing its greatness because of leftist policies in the past 5 decades. America needs a 40 year moratorium on immigration to assimilate those already here and are currently citizens.

    For America to survive, we not only need to continue preaching this love it or leave it mantra, but we should enforce it. I have concluded that liberals are people who hate America. Only people who hate America will preach open borders and multiculturalism, they want to see this country destroyed from within. IMO all those who demand open borders should be stripped of their citizenship and asked to leave. Start with George Soros.

  99. @istevefan
    One more observation about this cover story. Written by a non-European and featuring an almost entirely non-European cast of characters, one needs to remember that Europeans are still 62% of the population. Of course people on this blog realize that 62% means little since it is dropping each year, and even with a complete shutdown of immigration, birth rates and such would still push us in the same direction. But that is not the point of this comment.

    Rather I am pointing out how people seem to be lulled into complacency so long as they think they are in the majority. And then are quite surprised to learn that it doesn't take the other side accumulating 50% to make drastic changes that forever alter the situation.

    I recall when Pat Buchanan first raised the immigration issue in 1992. I had friends telling me that this was a non-issue since Hispanics were not even 9 percent of the population. They thought I was wasting my time listening to Pat argue about something so insignificant. Yet by the time Hispanics hit 10 percent of the population,they were in a position to prevent immigration restrictions on Latin America.

    At 10 percent a political party was bound to see them as an ally in their fight with the other party, and thus would fight tooth and nail to keep them coming. Additionally Spanish became a de facto second language, from government forms to the aisles of Home Depot. Even today Hispanics are just approaching 18%, well below 50%, but they are a force to be reckoned with.

    I am sure those guys from 1992 would be surprised how much things have changed given that "WE" are still over 50% of the population. But most people just can't see it that way. They think that if they are in the majority all is well. However, there are exceptions where people seem to understand that a small change can poison the well.

    For example, most whites will not send their kids to a school that is 50% black. In fact many would consider 10% or even a 5% black student population to be a tipping point to avoid if they can afford to. Yet they just don't seem to get this with the national population figures.

    Now we have other groups coming in large numbers. I think muslims are closing in on 2 percent. Of course I meet the same type of people today who tell me that a 1 percent or 2 percent muslim population is no big deal. But then what is the number where such a population starts to make a material change to your society? In Europe it seems that places with 5% experience calls for separate islamic law and the like. We already have implemented security measures at airports and public events that I would never have imagined. And that is with a muslim population of under 2 percent. What will happen here when they reach 5 percent?

    The bottom line is people feel safe behind the perception that they are in the majority. But fail to realize it doesn't take a majority of the other to materially affect your nation. On that I will close from this quote from the late Lawrence Auster.

    A traditionalist is a person who sees a threat to his society the moment it appears. A conservative is a person who sees the threat to his society after it’s already done a lot of damage. A liberal is a person who only sees sees the threat to his society after it’s too late to do anything about it—or he never sees it at all.
     

    Rather I am pointing out how people seem to be lulled into complacency so long as they think they are in the majority.

    Which is why this Time cover is most welcome IMO.

  100. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "How about the kind of people who created America (**and invented/created/discovered just about everything in existence**) and not the kind of people who created Third World shitholes?"

    **“White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East). Bear in mind that there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time.

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is "natural". Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like "your kind" were the only ones. It is no longer "natural" anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions--gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press--in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate "Third World shitholes".

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother's and father's side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.

    And what if we can trace back our lineage this way? I can; maybe we should have a vote on immigration policy among those who can? Given how widely unpopular the current policies are esp among whites I’m guessing it would be a lot more restrictive than it currently is.

    But let’s go with your idea and say that we were mistaken in letting in people after 1763. If so, then it wouldn’t refute halting or reducing immigration now. In fact our country felt before, in the 1920s, that immigration had been too problematic and put an immigration moratorium into effect for 40 years. Maybe we should follow suit? We also are not bound by whatever choice we made in the past, whether it was to open or close borders. We have the capacity to assess what is going on anew and decide. But that decision needs to be by those who are already here not by those who want to come merely because they feel it is better for them. I wouldn’t mind living in the mansions of many Dem leaders. Should I have the right to just self select my way in because I want to, without their say? Fundamentally it’s not that different.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "In fact our country felt before, in the 1920s, that immigration had been too problematic and put an immigration moratorium into effect for 40 years."

    It wasn't a "moratorium", it was a quota. This quota targeted Eastern and Southern Europeans in particular, the Guatamalans and Nigerians of the time period.

    "Maybe we should follow suit? We also are not bound by whatever choice we made in the past, whether it was to open or close borders."

    Absolutely. I am of the mindset that we are desperate need of immigration reform, which includes reducing dramatically the number of people entering our shores. But I am opposed to having a ban on certain groups. Because they scare us.
  101. @anon

    Says he’s better and smarter than native born Americans (the Apu Theory)
     
    so that entitles him to steal what Americans built?

    so that entitles him to steal what Americans built?

    He doesn’t think we built it. These people actually believe in lucky dirt theory.

  102. @Hannah Katz
    Funny how Mexican Americans want more Mexicans to immigrate here. Muslims want more Muslims, etc. No surprise as we are all nepotistic.

    Let's get some "on the street" interviews with Mexicans or Muslims or whatever where they are asked about greatly increasing the numbers of Chinese and Indians immigrating to America to help fill the high tech job openings. After all, there are about 8 of them for every American, so no shortage of immigrants to fill up America. I bet they are not so enthusiastic about immigration then.

    Hannah, when my grandparents came to America I am sure they wanted their relatives to follow and join them in their Italian neighborhoods. However, back then, it was sink or swim. No EBT cards, no SNAP, no Medicaid, no Section Eight housing vouchers, so of course you wanted your relatives here in case you needed help. Now you put one foot on America’s shores and the government guarantees that you live better than you did in your homeland.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    OK. Now you've outed yourself. I thought you were a descendent of Buffalo Bill Cody. Instead, you're Italian. My best friend is half Italian, but at least he was straight with it. I'm done with you Joe. Even though your comments were great.
  103. @istevefan
    One more observation about this cover story. Written by a non-European and featuring an almost entirely non-European cast of characters, one needs to remember that Europeans are still 62% of the population. Of course people on this blog realize that 62% means little since it is dropping each year, and even with a complete shutdown of immigration, birth rates and such would still push us in the same direction. But that is not the point of this comment.

    Rather I am pointing out how people seem to be lulled into complacency so long as they think they are in the majority. And then are quite surprised to learn that it doesn't take the other side accumulating 50% to make drastic changes that forever alter the situation.

    I recall when Pat Buchanan first raised the immigration issue in 1992. I had friends telling me that this was a non-issue since Hispanics were not even 9 percent of the population. They thought I was wasting my time listening to Pat argue about something so insignificant. Yet by the time Hispanics hit 10 percent of the population,they were in a position to prevent immigration restrictions on Latin America.

    At 10 percent a political party was bound to see them as an ally in their fight with the other party, and thus would fight tooth and nail to keep them coming. Additionally Spanish became a de facto second language, from government forms to the aisles of Home Depot. Even today Hispanics are just approaching 18%, well below 50%, but they are a force to be reckoned with.

    I am sure those guys from 1992 would be surprised how much things have changed given that "WE" are still over 50% of the population. But most people just can't see it that way. They think that if they are in the majority all is well. However, there are exceptions where people seem to understand that a small change can poison the well.

    For example, most whites will not send their kids to a school that is 50% black. In fact many would consider 10% or even a 5% black student population to be a tipping point to avoid if they can afford to. Yet they just don't seem to get this with the national population figures.

    Now we have other groups coming in large numbers. I think muslims are closing in on 2 percent. Of course I meet the same type of people today who tell me that a 1 percent or 2 percent muslim population is no big deal. But then what is the number where such a population starts to make a material change to your society? In Europe it seems that places with 5% experience calls for separate islamic law and the like. We already have implemented security measures at airports and public events that I would never have imagined. And that is with a muslim population of under 2 percent. What will happen here when they reach 5 percent?

    The bottom line is people feel safe behind the perception that they are in the majority. But fail to realize it doesn't take a majority of the other to materially affect your nation. On that I will close from this quote from the late Lawrence Auster.

    A traditionalist is a person who sees a threat to his society the moment it appears. A conservative is a person who sees the threat to his society after it’s already done a lot of damage. A liberal is a person who only sees sees the threat to his society after it’s too late to do anything about it—or he never sees it at all.
     

    The other thing is the majority is atomised and doesn’t act in collective self-interest. Well organised minorities will always exert more influence over issues if they face no competition. Eventually it may be a situation that the mass immigration just never stops.

    In many ways since this kind of immigration is relatively novel outside literal invasion, we only have a few examples of it being curtailed. The 1928 immigration act in the US, the restriction of commonwealth immigrants coming to the UK (Contra conventional wisdom today, Enoch Powell won, his speech and campaigning did get immigration restriction.) and the ‘white Australia’ policy which again contra conventional wisdom restricted the massive Southern and Eastern European immigration as well as Asian.

    And as we are all aware all of these policies were in place for a couple of decades before falling again. We’ve yet to see a situation whereby the voting population becomes so rootless as to stop caring as much about immigration restriction (Even if they are against it, as most more established poorer ethnic communities are, they’ll be given as much option on the matter as business interests can buy and be sufficiently less motivated by the issue as to let it slide) and the entire society collapses into a Dubai-style malaise and becomes a fiefdom of corporate interests that exudes emigrants.

  104. @Anonymous
    What’s not so funny is why the voice and wishes of the American people have never been asked or listened to over Immigration. I pay taxes that support the whole shebang, my ancestors have been here for centuries building the place, I have 2 sons who will have to live with the consequences,why shouldn’t I have a say in it?

    Anonymous, not to be crude, but according to Liz Warren and Obama, your ancestors built shit. America was build on the backs of slaves, who apparently arrived way before your folks and got the country ready for them.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    I trust you're preparing for a grand feast tomorrow, my good Sir?
    , @epochehusserl
    The city that I live in Buffalo, NY was most certainly not built on the backs of slaves. Buffalo was one of the richest cities in the world in 1900 and practically no blacks were here.
  105. OT: Thank goodness for Somalians in Minnesota! And what’s their special sauce? How can they accomplish what no mere American can do – force Amazon to negotiate?

    “Ms. Mohamed and scores of East African colleagues, many of them, like her, born in Somalia, responded in an unusual way for Amazon workers: They organized to complain.

    Now, tied together by a close cultural connection and empowered by a tight labor market, they appear to be the first known group in the United States to get Amazon management to negotiate.

    Ashley Robinson, a company spokeswoman, added that the company did not see its work with the East African workers as a negotiation but rather as a form of community engagement similar to its outreach efforts with veterans and lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender employees.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/technology/amazon-somali-workers-minnesota.html

    Because America needs more close cultural empowered groups of complainers.

    • Replies: @anon

    Amazon recruited East African immigrants heavily with local advertisements and billboards. Hundreds signed up through the Confederation of Somali Community, a nonprofit. For a while, Amazon ran buses to Shakopee from the Minneapolis neighborhood of Cedar-Riverside, known as Little Mogadishu, and the company has spaces at local warehouses dedicated to prayer and the ritual washing custom in Islam.

    Sixty percent of Amazon’s 3,000 workers in the region are East African, Awood estimates, but the group has found only one manager who speaks Somali.
     
    Self-inflicted headaches for Amazon. No sympathy here.
  106. @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, not to be crude, but according to Liz Warren and Obama, your ancestors built shit. America was build on the backs of slaves, who apparently arrived way before your folks and got the country ready for them.

    I trust you’re preparing for a grand feast tomorrow, my good Sir?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Rosie, thanks for your thought. Enjoy your Thanksgiving.
  107. @Tiny Duck
    We do not owe you white people enslavement to your rigid notions of America. Remember that slavery, the Chinese Exclusion Act, Japanese American internment, the denial of the vote and of citizenship to many people of color and women, were all legal. Justice comes before the law.

    America is going to change for the better. That means telling the truth about white supremacy and white privilege. That means holding capitalists Caucasians and Christians accountable for their evils. That means, as Leonard Pitts says, making America what it should be.

    TD, lobby your mentor, Leonard Pitts, to write an op-ed where he says he hates white-Christians. You and Pitts don’t have a set of balls between you.

  108. Regarding American Citizenism, here is a comparison of Steve Sailer to Richard Spencer, by someone who must be a reader (and commenter?) here. It is a good, 19 minute commercial for iSteve.

    A man tells the truth when he is driving, especially when he is trying to outrun a fire…

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    Interesting video, but I was a little puzzled by the ending...has Richard Spencer really "gone through a large number of ladies?" I always assumed he was gay. I mean, every time he opens his mouth, a little purse falls out.
    , @Anon
    Is this the Luke Ford who used to write a porno industry gossip column?
    , @Thea
    It’s Luke Ford and he used to comment here frequently a while ago. He is an interesting character.
  109. The United States has been the patsy for every kind of con that has ever been invented.

  110. @istevefan
    Is the woman with the broad headband supposed to be a Native American?

    Speaking about Native Americans, the people from whom we are told we stole the land, do they have any say in who gets to be an American? I've never understood how someone can hold the view that the land belongs to the natives while simultaneously believing the land belongs everyone. I remember Midnight Oil's song Beds are Burning where they kept singing the refrain, " It belongs to them, Let's give it back."

    Well how can you give it back after you have invited the entire world to take possession of it?

    iStevefan, funny how the explorers and settlers stole land from people, Native Americans, who stole land, and women and children, from other tribes. I guess the American dream is based on theft.

  111. @Rosie
    I trust you're preparing for a grand feast tomorrow, my good Sir?

    Rosie, thanks for your thought. Enjoy your Thanksgiving.

  112. @Johnny Smoggins
    "I’d guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old..."

    Fifty would be GenX, no one from that generation reads Time. The only people still reading Time are middle class, White boomers and fewer and fewer of them. I'd be surprised if Time survived in print form for another two years.

    You’re right; the last Boomers were born in 1964 and 1965 was the beginning of GenX and I can’t imagine many or any of them reading Time. Even in the 90′s Time was considered an old person’s magazine (old meaning Boomer and older). Every time I hear about Time or Newsweek now, I’m amazed either still exists.

  113. @Wilkey
    It's convenient that they ask a guy like Viet Thanh Nguyen, who hails from a country absolutely no one wants to immigrate to. Why not have a Japanese author? Then we could ask him in reply "who gets to be Japanese?"

    I'm not just making the normal point about hypocrisy, as good a point as that is. If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren't we asking "who gets to be Japanese" or "who gets to be Israeli" or a citizen of any other country? The Left never hesitates to impose it's values on other countries in any other number of ways. Why isn't it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?

    Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.

    Once upon a time a Time magazine cover story would have meant something. In 2017 alone it's circulation fell by 33%, from 3 million to 2 million. "New" Americans have never bought the magazine. Legacy Americans no longer want to. I'd guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old, who only continue to buy out of inertia. It's the kind of magazine which celebrates the death and decline of traditional white America even as its readership dies off even faster.

    What makes people think SJWs don’t try to undermine Asian countries?

    It’s just not as common because guess what, most SJWs live in the west.

    In fact, the west’s failure to contain its own diseases makes it a dangerous plague spreader around the world.

  114. @Hypnotoad666
    "White dude tucked in the back corner . . ."

    He looks very much like he was photoshopped as an afterthought: "Great picture. We have included everyone who gets to be an American. Oh wait . . . "

    Yes the White guy does look like he was ‘shopped in. It also looks like they did a clumsy job of adding wrinkles around his mouth. They do delight in the thought that any remaining White men will be dead in ten years anyway. They are truly vile people.

  115. Minoritarianism.

    The minoritarian ethos: if you whitey want to go about your own business, live with people of your shared culture whom you trust and object when we try to glom onto your stuff–country clubs or universities, neighborhoods or nations–you are *a bad person*–”evil”, “racist”, “Nazi”.

    But let’s be clear, this isn’t about “integration” or building a “one people nation”–that would be snuffing out “diversity”–racist and genocidal. No we minorities are special and are entitled to our own stuff–language, customs, traditions, religion, institutions–even ethnic endogamy. It’s your stuff that belong to us.

  116. @istevefan
    I suppose the authors and signer of the Naturalization Act of 1790 might have a different view.

    They were ALL old white male slaveholders, so of course the people who created the country have nothing of value to teach us.

  117. @Tiny Duck
    We do not owe you white people enslavement to your rigid notions of America. Remember that slavery, the Chinese Exclusion Act, Japanese American internment, the denial of the vote and of citizenship to many people of color and women, were all legal. Justice comes before the law.

    America is going to change for the better. That means telling the truth about white supremacy and white privilege. That means holding capitalists Caucasians and Christians accountable for their evils. That means, as Leonard Pitts says, making America what it should be.

    Zimbabwe!

  118. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon7
    OT: Thank goodness for Somalians in Minnesota! And what’s their special sauce? How can they accomplish what no mere American can do - force Amazon to negotiate?

    “Ms. Mohamed and scores of East African colleagues, many of them, like her, born in Somalia, responded in an unusual way for Amazon workers: They organized to complain.

    Now, tied together by a close cultural connection and empowered by a tight labor market, they appear to be the first known group in the United States to get Amazon management to negotiate.

    Ashley Robinson, a company spokeswoman, added that the company did not see its work with the East African workers as a negotiation but rather as a form of community engagement similar to its outreach efforts with veterans and lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender employees.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/technology/amazon-somali-workers-minnesota.html

    Because America needs more close cultural empowered groups of complainers.

    Amazon recruited East African immigrants heavily with local advertisements and billboards. Hundreds signed up through the Confederation of Somali Community, a nonprofit. For a while, Amazon ran buses to Shakopee from the Minneapolis neighborhood of Cedar-Riverside, known as Little Mogadishu, and the company has spaces at local warehouses dedicated to prayer and the ritual washing custom in Islam.

    Sixty percent of Amazon’s 3,000 workers in the region are East African, Awood estimates, but the group has found only one manager who speaks Somali.

    Self-inflicted headaches for Amazon. No sympathy here.

  119. @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, not to be crude, but according to Liz Warren and Obama, your ancestors built shit. America was build on the backs of slaves, who apparently arrived way before your folks and got the country ready for them.

    The city that I live in Buffalo, NY was most certainly not built on the backs of slaves. Buffalo was one of the richest cities in the world in 1900 and practically no blacks were here.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    epoc, sorry you missed the sarcasm and what do you think the "Buffalo" in my handle refers to?
  120. @Detective Club
    Getting ready to vote early and often, using provisional and mail-in ballots, against Trump in 2020.
    https://youtu.be/jl_9ayxs69A
    The TIME cover is really an obituary notice for the United States of America.

    The TIME cover is really an obituary notice for the United States of America.

    For better or worse, this is true. One of the worst things Conservatism Inc. did over the last four or five decades was to act as the opiate of the White middle class man. It kept us thinking these other people were “just visiting” or that the “Loonie Left” was just something to laugh about over gin & tonics. Collectively, we’re only wising up now. But it’s too late to get back what our fathers and grandfathers took for granted.

    • Replies: @bomag

    For better or worse, this is true.
     
    What gets better?

    One of the worst things Conservatism Inc. did over the last four or five decades was to act as the opiate of the White middle class man.
     
    There were plenty of prophets, overwhelmed by modern transportation and communication in the service to growing the GDP. For that matter, the Left was the voice of immigration restriction for a while, until they weren't for the same reasons.
    , @Nicholas Stix
    Actually, many people were aware of what was going on at the time, but they were silenced. For many years, the percentage of the population that were "wising up" was shrinking. Once an outrage has been inflicted on the people, the percentage of those who submit to it grows with time.
  121. @Dan Smith
    Mr. Nguyen is clearly conflicted. Admits that he couldn't live in Vietnam now because he'd be in trouble with the government for what he writes. So like the US under Trump. All those concentration camps we have. He's upset because a guy who read his book didn't like it. He won the freaking Pulitzer prize for it. Does that mean we all have to like it or agree with it? His refugee parents went back to Vietnam twice to visit, then told him they weren't going back again, they were Americans now. That's who gets to be an American.

    I notice average immigrants are glad to be here, their kids, not so much.

  122. @HunInTheSun
    The answer can only be Anglo-Saxons and those who assimilate seamlessly with Anglo-Saxons such as German and Scandinavian immigrants. This is the consensus view of America for the vast majority of her people and her leadership since the Founding, and of her Founders themselves.

    Aren’t you about 150 years too late?

  123. Anonymous[100] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s funny how when the American media asks immigrants “Who Gets to Be American?” the answer usually turns out to be “My cousin.” Were immigrants always quite so shamelessly nepotistic?

    I think in general, immigrants and descendants of recent immigrants have tended to be more liberal on immigration. Most people have a sense that it would be hypocritical for them to oppose immigration in general if they were immigrants themselves or descendants of recent immigrants. This is why you have people invoke their Ellis Island ancestors to explain why they’re liberal on immigration today. This is especially the case because the “official”, mainstream view is that America is a “nation of immigrants”, and that “discrimination” is a bad thing that America opposes. This belief may not be held by readers here, and it may not be correct, but it is the belief held and promulgated by most people. I think this sense of hypocrisy is what drives most immigrants to support immigration in general, rather than “nepotism”, which at any rate could also be said to motivate those against immigration.

  124. Steve, add single quotes around American

  125. Professor Viet Thanh Nguyen is a smart guy, but he’s so desperate for some of that Crazy Rich Asians “Represent Me!” lucre, it’s embarrassing.

    Soooo, I’ve always wondered. Do they pardon the Thanksgiving turkey over there like we do here, in America?

    Or, to be PC, the Liberation cat on Ho Chi Minh Day?

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    That was insensitive of me. Blame it on too much beer. I mean saké.
  126. @James Speaks

    Professor Viet Thanh Nguyen is a smart guy, but he’s so desperate for some of that Crazy Rich Asians “Represent Me!” lucre, it’s embarrassing.
     
    Soooo, I've always wondered. Do they pardon the Thanksgiving turkey over there like we do here, in America?

    Or, to be PC, the Liberation cat on Ho Chi Minh Day?

    That was insensitive of me. Blame it on too much beer. I mean saké.

  127. @istevefan
    Is the woman with the broad headband supposed to be a Native American?

    Speaking about Native Americans, the people from whom we are told we stole the land, do they have any say in who gets to be an American? I've never understood how someone can hold the view that the land belongs to the natives while simultaneously believing the land belongs everyone. I remember Midnight Oil's song Beds are Burning where they kept singing the refrain, " It belongs to them, Let's give it back."

    Well how can you give it back after you have invited the entire world to take possession of it?

    I’ve never understood how someone can hold the view that the land belongs to the natives while simultaneously believing the land belongs everyone.

    Or how non-Native non-Whites think they get a free pass to stay on “occupied” land simply because they aren’t White. Sorry guys, from the Native perspective you are just as much invaders as we are.

    The funniest version of this comes from Latinos who assert that this is “our” land because they are “native” too. But unless the Native portion of their ancestry is from the local tribe, their claim to the land is no more legitimate than any White man’s. It’s like a Frenchman claiming the right to illegally occupy land in Hungary simply because “we are all one White people”. Yeah, that would fly about as well as it would between a mestizo and a Comanche.

    • Replies: @anon

    Or how non-Native non-Whites think they get a free pass to stay on “occupied” land simply because they aren’t White. Sorry guys, from the Native perspective you are just as much invaders as we are.
     
    and jews

    this is the funny thing though, they rail about the evils of America and yet for some reason they're still here

    if you hate America or white people, have some integrity and LEAVE

  128. Insofar as anything is a fact in psychiatry, it is a rock-solid, take-it-to-the-bank fact that glamorizing a behavior guarantees copycats. This is the basis of Dr Park Dietz’s advice on the reporting of mass shootings, ignored today on NPR in a factless puff piece which mentioned the word “shooting” multiple times in every sentence, amid emotional blather about how dramatic it all was. Another outrageous mass media attack on public safety is the TV show 13 Reasons Why, the show that wants teenagers to think that committing suicide guarantees that people who ignored you in life will pay attention to you if you kill yourself. I’m not exaggerating, that’s the foundational conceit of the show: if you kill yourself, you will gain superpowers. It’s like there was a show telling kids to drink bleach, but the producers say don’t worry, there’s lots of secial effects and acting illustrating how dramatic and heroic bleach drinking is.
    Now a U of M study has confirmed what everybody already knew and what numerous critics have pointed out.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast, bomag
    • Replies: @Wilkey
    "the TV show 13 Reasons Why, the show that wants teenagers to think that committing suicide guarantees that people who ignored you in life will pay attention to you if you kill yourself."

    If ever as a teenager i were at all tempted to think that way it ended the minute I actually saw another teenager actually laugh when hearing about some other kid committing suicide. Most people who are assholes to you in life will not suddenly stop being assholes because you made them feel bad by killing yourself.
  129. I think spandrell of bloodyshovel explains the purpose of multi-culturalism better than anybody with his essay “Biological Leninism”. It explains a lot of seemingly non-sensical behavior that will suddenly make perfect sense.

    tl;dr version of essay: what Sailer calls the “coalition of the fringes” is being used as vanguard to institute Leninism much like the Soviets used their own “coalition of the fringes” of workers, peasants, Jews, Latvians, Ukrainians, Georgians, etc… (everyone Lenin and cohorts knew had a grudge against Imperial Russian society). Like today “the early Soviet Union promoted minorities, women, sexual deviants, atheists, cultists and every kind of weirdo. Everybody but intelligent, conservative Russians of good families”.

  130. Anonymous[130] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    It's convenient that they ask a guy like Viet Thanh Nguyen, who hails from a country absolutely no one wants to immigrate to. Why not have a Japanese author? Then we could ask him in reply "who gets to be Japanese?"

    I'm not just making the normal point about hypocrisy, as good a point as that is. If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren't we asking "who gets to be Japanese" or "who gets to be Israeli" or a citizen of any other country? The Left never hesitates to impose it's values on other countries in any other number of ways. Why isn't it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?

    Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.

    Once upon a time a Time magazine cover story would have meant something. In 2017 alone it's circulation fell by 33%, from 3 million to 2 million. "New" Americans have never bought the magazine. Legacy Americans no longer want to. I'd guess that the age of its average reader is somewhere north of 50 or even 60 years old, who only continue to buy out of inertia. It's the kind of magazine which celebrates the death and decline of traditional white America even as its readership dies off even faster.

    Well that’s easy. America is a “nation of immigrants”. Japan and Israel are not. Seriously, that’s all there is to it. Unless you’ve been living under a rock, that’s what the “official”, “mainstream” view held by most Americans has been for decades now. This is why all anti-immigration arguments in mainstream discourse are indirect arguments i.e. immigrants bring crime, take jobs, etc. There is no opposition against immigrants qua immigrants, for simply being non-Americans or different because the meta-belief is that America is a “nation of immigrants”.

  131. • Replies: @bomag

    Otherwise only gotten positive messages.
     
    A reminder that we are not having a debate that results in a changed public policy. We just have the exultation of looters plying their trade.
  132. @Buzz Mohawk
    Regarding American Citizenism, here is a comparison of Steve Sailer to Richard Spencer, by someone who must be a reader (and commenter?) here. It is a good, 19 minute commercial for iSteve.

    A man tells the truth when he is driving, especially when he is trying to outrun a fire...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNoX6kXnoq0

    Interesting video, but I was a little puzzled by the ending…has Richard Spencer really “gone through a large number of ladies?” I always assumed he was gay. I mean, every time he opens his mouth, a little purse falls out.

  133. @Clive Beaconsfield
    White dude tucked in the back corner on the Time cover reminds me of those WWII-era propaganda posters for the Commonwealth, where fighting men from across the empire were marching together in a rather unsubtle racial pecking order.

    https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/17043

    If Peopke of Col R have to deal with it fur -000 years than white odious can just get over it
    What’s wring just attests toy cabby finest then you should you be avid to compete

    If white hen are do great then you should Delhi e the color Turin

    Mall Urpie of Cooor are all Susa tree with you
    M

    • Replies: @AnonymousLevantine
    I, for one, find it difficult to determine whether the white hens of Turin are tastier than the white hens of Delhi, though they are equally colorful when cooked well. Moreover, presumably we all can attest to wringing our hands in avidity to compete over toy cabbies. But how does one not get over the fact there is an odious Mall called Urpie in the tree-lined suburb of Susa known fondly as Cooor?As always, I find it a delight to engage with you intellectually on these matters of great import, Mr. T. Duck. And I send my fondest wishes to Ms. Col R. Peopke and her flourishing fur business "-000 Years", which is rapidly becoming a household name.
    , @Hunsdon
    This is your Mona Lisa.

    This is your Citizen Kane.

    This is your 1964 1/2 Ford Mustang/
    , @Mr. Anon
    I think Tiny Duck speaks for all of us, when he so sagely says:

    "Mall Urpie of Cooor are all Susa tree with you"

    Indeed, Sir! Indeed!
  134. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother’s and father’s side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.
     
    Not according the the Naturalization Act of 1790 which was written by many of our Founders and signed into law by the Founding Father himself.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions–gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press–in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate “Third World shitholes”.
     
    Can you give me the specific years or centuries about which you are referring to when you wrote that "Europeans promptly engaged in imperialism".

    Blacks were also slaves, there was discrimination, sexism, etc., in 1790. In other words, America was inconsistent and not fully, “really” American back then, since America is believed by most people today to be a “nation of immigrants” dedicated to equality and opposed to “discrimination”, “racism”, etc. This is why appealing to the 1790 Naturalization Act doesn’t get anywhere today. It’s like appealing to slavery today to justify policies towards blacks. The meta-belief or ideology is that America is a “nation of immigrants” that’s for equality and against racism and discrimination. You have to change the meta-belief or ideology first before making appeals to the past to justify policies today.

  135. @Heather O'Rourke's fistula
    If you're desperate or stuck enough to put up with shit for human rights, you're in! Congratulations, sucker.

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/issues/indicators/pages/hrindicatorsindex.aspx

    The USA is a totalitarian snake pit run by mobsters. Nobody comes here unless CIA drives them here by starving them or blowing up their country. The visa lottery is how CIA gets their hooks in agents. They let your relations in and keep you on the ground engaged in treason.

    Nobody comes here unless CIA drives them here by starving them or blowing up their country.

    yeah sure, pal

  136. anon[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "How about the kind of people who created America (**and invented/created/discovered just about everything in existence**) and not the kind of people who created Third World shitholes?"

    **“White inventions” or “western science”, while noteworthy in their original ideas and innovations, of course owe much to paper, the compass, and movable type (Chinese), to the number 0 (India), and to the idea of a rule-based, law-giving universal Creator (Middle East). Bear in mind that there are few inventions that are “purely” white. Take this comment for example. It depends on the Internet and computers – “white inventions”. But it also depends on the alphabet, a Phoenician invention, and the idea of writing itself, which in the West comes from Egypt. At any point in history, most inventions will come from one part of the world because it is the most advanced at that particular time.

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is "natural". Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like "your kind" were the only ones. It is no longer "natural" anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions--gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press--in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate "Third World shitholes".

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother's and father's side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is “natural”. Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it.

    and you’re the type of person who wants to blame only whites

  137. @Clive Beaconsfield
    White dude tucked in the back corner on the Time cover reminds me of those WWII-era propaganda posters for the Commonwealth, where fighting men from across the empire were marching together in a rather unsubtle racial pecking order.

    https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/17043

    White dude looks like he’s checking his cell phone. Perfect.

  138. @Buzz Mohawk
    Regarding American Citizenism, here is a comparison of Steve Sailer to Richard Spencer, by someone who must be a reader (and commenter?) here. It is a good, 19 minute commercial for iSteve.

    A man tells the truth when he is driving, especially when he is trying to outrun a fire...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNoX6kXnoq0

    Is this the Luke Ford who used to write a porno industry gossip column?

  139. @Detective Club
    Getting ready to vote early and often, using provisional and mail-in ballots, against Trump in 2020.
    https://youtu.be/jl_9ayxs69A
    The TIME cover is really an obituary notice for the United States of America.

    I’m sure the more thoughtful of us here are well aware that Matt Damon’s character’s response was meant (not by the character, but by the writers and producers of the film) as a mockingly dismissive wave of the hand at those of us who would once have been glad to say those words and believe them true.

    “No longer you don’t, you stupid goyim.” is what those words are really saying, and correctly.

    What hopelessly trusting fools we were.

  140. Those who get to be americans are

    1. those whose parents were citizens at the time of their birth.

    2. those who in abeyance of US immigration policies and procedures are naturalized

    That’s it. It’s that simple.

  141. @anonymous
    The deimagining Rockwell photo trend is really lame, so lame they always have to tell you what it is. Uh Rockwell was an illustrator with a distinctive style — let’s put some effort in here people — get thee to a drawing board.

    Does anyone under fifty know who Rockwell is?

    Ho-kay, now I have to walk down a tree lined dirt path to get my Saturday Evening Post from the mailbox.

    Does anyone under fifty know who Rockwell is?

    iSteve comments fave Leyendecker has permanently superseded Rockwell. Few know this. Happy Thanksgiving everybody!

    • Agree: syonredux, ACommenter
  142. @Buzz Mohawk
    Regarding American Citizenism, here is a comparison of Steve Sailer to Richard Spencer, by someone who must be a reader (and commenter?) here. It is a good, 19 minute commercial for iSteve.

    A man tells the truth when he is driving, especially when he is trying to outrun a fire...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNoX6kXnoq0

    It’s Luke Ford and he used to comment here frequently a while ago. He is an interesting character.

  143. if immigrants are better than the pasty natives then why aren’t the places they come from generally better than the places built by whitey, surely they must be? In which case why do they need to leave at all?

  144. @Tiny Duck
    If Peopke of Col R have to deal with it fur -000 years than white odious can just get over it
    What's wring just attests toy cabby finest then you should you be avid to compete

    If white hen are do great then you should Delhi e the color Turin

    Mall Urpie of Cooor are all Susa tree with you
    M

    I, for one, find it difficult to determine whether the white hens of Turin are tastier than the white hens of Delhi, though they are equally colorful when cooked well. Moreover, presumably we all can attest to wringing our hands in avidity to compete over toy cabbies. But how does one not get over the fact there is an odious Mall called Urpie in the tree-lined suburb of Susa known fondly as Cooor?As always, I find it a delight to engage with you intellectually on these matters of great import, Mr. T. Duck. And I send my fondest wishes to Ms. Col R. Peopke and her flourishing fur business “-000 Years”, which is rapidly becoming a household name.

  145. @Corvinus
    "If the whole point of living in a cosmopolitan, multicultural world is that we treat all cultures equally then why aren’t we asking “who gets to be Japanese” or “who gets to be Israeli” or a citizen of any other country?"

    Some on the left pose these questions. Others, however, are more focused here in the States,

    "The Left never hesitates to impose it’s values on other countries in any other number of ways."

    You mean the Left And the Right engages in such action.

    "Why isn’t it imposing its immigration values on these countries, as well (unless they happen to be white and Christian)?"

    First things first. The elites have to take over America before they take over the world!

    "Legacy Americans..."

    Would only be Americans who are able to definitively show that their ancestors on both sides had been here prior to the Revolutionary War. Do you meet the criteria?

    UNLESS...

    "Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American."

    Exactly! We do, the citizens, which consists of different racial and ethnic groups.

    UNLESS…

    “Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.”

    Exactly! We do, the citizens, which consists of different racial and ethnic groups.

    Exactly. The future belongs to those who will literally fight for it. And there will be fighting. As in the past—when the definition of “American” is contested—guns, explosions, fire and deprivation will determine who gets to be American.

    ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Exactly. The future belongs to those who will literally fight for it. And there will be fighting."

    So, if there is this fighting, are you going to be at the front of the line Proud Boys style, or are you going to watch from the sidelines as skulls get bashed in?
  146. Was there a team of deep-cover neo-Nazis that infiltrated liberal Jewish organizations and media organs? I mean excluding Sarah Silverman, it’s been pretty obvious that she’s a satirical act for years now.

  147. “Who gets to own a library card?”

  148. @Anon
    Judge Bernard Friedman is; quelle suprise! a Jew. His ruling legalizing gay marriage in Michigan and then presiding over the wedding and staying for the grandiose reception was celebrated in the Detroit Jewish News as another marvelous example of how the virtuous and saintly Jews are maki g America a better and better place with every warped judicial decision.

    The argument for the defense of the FGM drs and parents was that the federal law making FGM illegal was not debated, but just proposed and quickly passed by Congress.
    So the good Jewish judge Friedman has set another precedent, that no federal
    Law is valid unless it has been extensively debated before passing.

    Given that precedent the next time a US president is murdered, the defendant can’t be tried and convicted in a federal court but in the state in which the president was killed

    After all in November 1963, there was no federal law forbidding the nursery of a president so if Oswald had lived he would have been tried in Texas

    After the murder of Kennedy a federal law was swiftly passed without debate making the murder of a president a federal crime.

    So next time a president is murdered the defense can argue the federal law wasn’t debated sufficiently.

    So now the precedent has been set that laws can be overturned if they were not sufficiently debated before passing

    FGM wasn’t yet illegal in Michigan when it was committed. I suppose the county prosecutor could try great bodily injury and mayhem but they’d probably get another Jewish judge.

    If the case gets to the Supreme Court I’m sure the 3 feminazis will vote in favor of the Muslim practice of FMG aka child molestatiin, assault and battery, assault with a deadly weapon great bodily injury and mayhem

    This is just plainly wrong, though. Nobody who looks at this comes away thinking that’s how the law works, these same idiosyncracies protect my own rights. He’s a political activist who shoved unambiguous standing law aside to protect people who want to mutilate helpless children.
    The establishment has made its decision. It does not care about credibility or authority. They want conflict, probably because they have decided they will win. This is on the same level as that attention whore presiding over the Anna Nichol Smith debacle who burst into tears on camera.

  149. @Tiny Duck
    If Peopke of Col R have to deal with it fur -000 years than white odious can just get over it
    What's wring just attests toy cabby finest then you should you be avid to compete

    If white hen are do great then you should Delhi e the color Turin

    Mall Urpie of Cooor are all Susa tree with you
    M

    This is your Mona Lisa.

    This is your Citizen Kane.

    This is your 1964 1/2 Ford Mustang/

  150. @Detective Club
    OFF TOPIC : This very old French lady thinks Merkel is Macron's wife!
    https://youtu.be/HlsLbu2sDQQ

    Did you hear: Macron explained the situation to Merkel in English?! Incroyable!

  151. @anon
    Pajeet Heer gets to decide. That's who.

    https://www.twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1065059047261593600

    Jeet Heer can sit in Toronto and tell the White people who took him in that his kind will replace us. I, on the other hand, can’t tell him off without risking the power of the state and corporations coming down on me. These tinted brats are the spoilt adopted children of our ruling class. The rest of us get smacked if we look at little Jeet or Nguyen the wrong way. We can’t get out the family photo album and reminisce about the days before they joined our family because it makes the tinted ones feel left out. We get lectured all day about how insensitive we are to our incredibly talented new siblings. We get told how much better family members they are than the rest of us.

    …. and the adopted brats just consider this the bare minimum they deserve. Just keep it up all you Jeets & Nguyens, just keep it up.

  152. @istevefan

    By the way, unless you are able to directly trace your family tree on your mother’s and father’s side to ancestors who arrived prior to 1763, you are not an American. You have to go back.
     
    Not according the the Naturalization Act of 1790 which was written by many of our Founders and signed into law by the Founding Father himself.

    Remember, four important Chinese inventions–gunpowder, compass, paper, printing press–in part enabled the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate “Third World shitholes”.
     
    Can you give me the specific years or centuries about which you are referring to when you wrote that "Europeans promptly engaged in imperialism".

    “Not according the the Naturalization Act of 1790 which was written by many of our Founders and signed into law by the Founding Father himself.”

    My reference was to Vox Day’s insistence that the only “true” Americans are those who have a direct line to the Thirteen Colonies. Regardless, that piece of legislation was subject to changes by future generations, i.e. our posterity.

    “Can you give me the specific years or centuries about which you are referring to when you wrote that “Europeans promptly engaged in imperialism”.”

    Well, you have the Crusades of the 1100-1400′s, and then the Age of Exploration from 1400 onward. I see where you are calling me out for using the word “promptly”. Regardless, white people who insist they developed everything in the world while minimizing the damage they also inflicted around the world are idiots.

    • Replies: @istevefan

    Well, you have the Crusades of the 1100-1400′s, and then the Age of Exploration from 1400 onward. I see where you are calling me out for using the word “promptly”.
     
    No, I just wanted to see if you included the pre-Christian Greeks and Romans in your list of European conquerors. I don't think I've ever seen someone debating your side ever use those ancients in their laundry list of European evildoers, which makes me wonder if your problem is really with Christian Europe and not just with Europe itself.
    , @Mr. Anon

    My reference was to Vox Day’s insistence that the only “true” Americans are those who have a direct line to the Thirteen Colonies. Regardless, that piece of legislation was subject to changes by future generations, i.e. our posterity.
     
    Emmanuel Cellar was not part of the "our posterity" mentioned in the Consitution. Nor are many of the current boosters of unlimited immigration who ceaselessly harange us about "what it means to be an American". They are part of some other posterity.

    You, on the other hand, are the posterity of a posterior.
    , @Anonymous
    The Crusades were a response to the aggression of Islam encroachment on Christiandom.
  153. @Anonymous
    And what if we can trace back our lineage this way? I can; maybe we should have a vote on immigration policy among those who can? Given how widely unpopular the current policies are esp among whites I’m guessing it would be a lot more restrictive than it currently is.

    But let’s go with your idea and say that we were mistaken in letting in people after 1763. If so, then it wouldn’t refute halting or reducing immigration now. In fact our country felt before, in the 1920s, that immigration had been too problematic and put an immigration moratorium into effect for 40 years. Maybe we should follow suit? We also are not bound by whatever choice we made in the past, whether it was to open or close borders. We have the capacity to assess what is going on anew and decide. But that decision needs to be by those who are already here not by those who want to come merely because they feel it is better for them. I wouldn’t mind living in the mansions of many Dem leaders. Should I have the right to just self select my way in because I want to, without their say? Fundamentally it’s not that different.

    “In fact our country felt before, in the 1920s, that immigration had been too problematic and put an immigration moratorium into effect for 40 years.”

    It wasn’t a “moratorium”, it was a quota. This quota targeted Eastern and Southern Europeans in particular, the Guatamalans and Nigerians of the time period.

    “Maybe we should follow suit? We also are not bound by whatever choice we made in the past, whether it was to open or close borders.”

    Absolutely. I am of the mindset that we are desperate need of immigration reform, which includes reducing dramatically the number of people entering our shores. But I am opposed to having a ban on certain groups. Because they scare us.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    It wasn’t a “moratorium”, it was a quota. This quota targeted Eastern and Southern Europeans in particular, the Guatamalans and Nigerians of the time period.
     
    Bulls**t. The Guatamalans and Nigerians of that time period, as of this time period, are.............Guatamalans and Nigerians. There are differences between peoples, your inability to recognize it or admit notwithstanding.

    Absolutely. I am of the mindset that we are desperate need of immigration reform, which includes reducing dramatically the number of people entering our shores. But I am opposed to having a ban on certain groups. Because they scare us.
     
    Yes, I am scared of people with face and neck tattoos who cut off their enemies heads with machetes. And of their mothers who bore such people, and of the whole society that creates them. Why shouldn't we ban people from crappy, low-functioning countries?

    You are a contemptible idiot. I sincerely hope that you get to live amongst the full range of diversity you want to foist off on the rest of us. I hope you get to wallow in it like a pig in s**t.
  154. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    UNLESS…

    “Who gets to be American? The people who we Americans decide get to be American.”

    Exactly! We do, the citizens, which consists of different racial and ethnic groups.
     
    Exactly. The future belongs to those who will literally fight for it. And there will be fighting. As in the past—when the definition of “American” is contested—guns, explosions, fire and deprivation will determine who gets to be American.

    ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8LLKO0-PAE

    “Exactly. The future belongs to those who will literally fight for it. And there will be fighting.”

    So, if there is this fighting, are you going to be at the front of the line Proud Boys style, or are you going to watch from the sidelines as skulls get bashed in?

    • Replies: @istevefan

    So, if there is this fighting, are you going to be at the front of the line Proud Boys style, or are you going to watch from the sidelines as skulls get bashed in?
     
    Like you and the overwhelming majority of people, t(he)y will probably sit back and wait to see how the tide is turning. Recall only about 10 percent of the colonists ever participated in the Revolution. Most struggles are fought by the few. The many attempt to remain neutral until they can see the clear emergence of a winner, or they have no other choice and are forced to pick a side.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    You haven’t answered my question.

    ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?
  155. @War for Blair Mountain
    Well...our next POTUS be the Hindu-Jamaican Kamala Harris. And this means that Kamala Harris and her vicious Hindu Attorney General Preet Bharara will get to determine who is an authentic “American”.....And what this means is that Kamala Harris’s and Preet Bharara’s people....Hindus...get to vote The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority(Steve...you have no idea how much self-control it took for me not to CAP THIS) into a White Raciality Foreigner within the borders of America..........

    Suppose the WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MEN(couldn’t control the impulse) who landed on Normandy Beach were given a crystal ball the night before D-Day and could see the aftermath of Nov 3 2020=Hindu Rule in America!!!!!.......I will let Steve’s Readers fill in the details.....

    Don’t despair, if Nikki Haley successfully primaries Trump and runs against Kamala Harris, we’ll have a choice. We get to vote on being dispossessed. /sarcasm

    I agree with your post entirely. What would all those who toiled for their children to have better lives than they had say to this generation? And certainly what would those on Normandy Beach think if they could have foreseen their country would be given away without a shot fired.

  156. @Federalist
    The Phoenicians and Egyptians were white by any reasonable definition. But you are correct in pointing out that they were not European.

    The Chinese did some good stuff a long time ago. Thanks China. How about we can all use each other's technology, but we can have our own countries?

    Maybe I am unfairly negative about the Third World. They've created wonderful societies. Why do they need to come here?

    You are the type of white person who is quick to point out how other people have done something bad too, how it is “natural”. Like with the slave trade, you would quickly point out that Africans and Arabs also did it. Historical context suddenly matters. But when it comes to good things, like inventions, you act like “your kind” were the only ones. It is no longer “natural” anymore. Wave bye-bye to historical context.
     
    For the record, I'm completely against slavery, even when white people are guilty.

    ...the rise of Europeans, who promptly engaged in imperialism for gimmedats and free stuff in Africa and the Middle East, which helped facilitate “Third World shitholes”.
     
    Sure. It's European imperialism that is still all these years later holding back the various peoples of color.

    “The Phoenicians…were white by any reasonable definition.”

    Yet to be determined.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3611457/Ancient-DNA-study-finds-Phoenician-Carthage-European-ancestry.html

    “How about we can all use each other’s technology, but we can have our own countries?”

    We do have our own countries. Really don’t know why that is hard for you to understand.

  157. @Corvinus
    "Not according the the Naturalization Act of 1790 which was written by many of our Founders and signed into law by the Founding Father himself."

    My reference was to Vox Day's insistence that the only "true" Americans are those who have a direct line to the Thirteen Colonies. Regardless, that piece of legislation was subject to changes by future generations, i.e. our posterity.

    "Can you give me the specific years or centuries about which you are referring to when you wrote that “Europeans promptly engaged in imperialism”."

    Well, you have the Crusades of the 1100-1400's, and then the Age of Exploration from 1400 onward. I see where you are calling me out for using the word "promptly". Regardless, white people who insist they developed everything in the world while minimizing the damage they also inflicted around the world are idiots.

    Well, you have the Crusades of the 1100-1400′s, and then the Age of Exploration from 1400 onward. I see where you are calling me out for using the word “promptly”.

    No, I just wanted to see if you included the pre-Christian Greeks and Romans in your list of European conquerors. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone debating your side ever use those ancients in their laundry list of European evildoers, which makes me wonder if your problem is really with Christian Europe and not just with Europe itself.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "No, I just wanted to see if you included the pre-Christian Greeks and Romans in your list of European conquerors. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone debating your side ever use those ancients in their laundry list of European evildoers, which makes me wonder if your problem is really with Christian Europe and not just with Europe itself."

    I figure since the Jews and darkies are generally castigated for everything bad in this world (and deservedly so, right), I'll let the Greeks and Romans slide by and go for the jugular with Europeans. Both of their cultures were pretty cool. Call it a soft spot, but I just do not have the heart to put them on the wrong side of the ledger when it comes to "evildoers". Although I have to admit that Christian Europe does have some worthy things, too. You know, like the Bible and the pope.

  158. @Corvinus
    "Exactly. The future belongs to those who will literally fight for it. And there will be fighting."

    So, if there is this fighting, are you going to be at the front of the line Proud Boys style, or are you going to watch from the sidelines as skulls get bashed in?

    So, if there is this fighting, are you going to be at the front of the line Proud Boys style, or are you going to watch from the sidelines as skulls get bashed in?

    Like you and the overwhelming majority of people, t(he)y will probably sit back and wait to see how the tide is turning. Recall only about 10 percent of the colonists ever participated in the Revolution. Most struggles are fought by the few. The many attempt to remain neutral until they can see the clear emergence of a winner, or they have no other choice and are forced to pick a side.

  159. @epochehusserl
    The city that I live in Buffalo, NY was most certainly not built on the backs of slaves. Buffalo was one of the richest cities in the world in 1900 and practically no blacks were here.

    epoc, sorry you missed the sarcasm and what do you think the “Buffalo” in my handle refers to?

  160. @Anon
    Or, how about a liberal is a person who welcomes and facilitates threats and damage to his civilization.

    Perhaps it is the progressive who fits your definition. I don’t think Auster split progs from liberals in his writings. But maybe the two are not synonymous.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Perhaps it is the progressive who fits your definition. I don’t think Auster split progs from liberals in his writings. But maybe the two are not synonymous.

     

    Calling progressives "liberal" is like calling the Atacama a rainforest.



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  161. @peterike
    PeterIke's Law is shifting into over-drive, and anti-white Asians are now thick on the ground and being published and promoted everywhere at once. It's going to get much worse and much sooner than you might think.

    PeterIke’s Law is shifting into over-drive,

    That is not what Peterike’s Law is.

    You can CTRL+F in my comments chronicle to see the clarification of what Peterike’s Law really is.

    Plus, as a Polish immigrant, you can’t really pull rank over a Vietnamese immigrant like Mr. Nguyen. Both countries suffered from the same Communism around the same time period.

  162. @SunBakedSuburb
    " ... you fuckin illiterate."

    You fuckin' illiterate.

    Somebody tell the bartender to cut Rufus off.

    • Replies: @anon
    Rufus be downing 40 oz malt liquor

    there's no bartender to cut him off
  163. @Anonymous
    What’s not so funny is why the voice and wishes of the American people have never been asked or listened to over Immigration. I pay taxes that support the whole shebang, my ancestors have been here for centuries building the place, I have 2 sons who will have to live with the consequences,why shouldn’t I have a say in it?

    What’s not so funny is why the voice and wishes of the American people have never been asked or listened to over Immigration. I pay taxes that support the whole shebang…

    Americans voted for benefits. The benefit-givers also give benefits to others.

    Solution: never, ever vote for benefits.

  164. @istevefan
    Perhaps it is the progressive who fits your definition. I don't think Auster split progs from liberals in his writings. But maybe the two are not synonymous.

    Perhaps it is the progressive who fits your definition. I don’t think Auster split progs from liberals in his writings. But maybe the two are not synonymous.

    Calling progressives “liberal” is like calling the Atacama a rainforest.

  165. @Buffalo Joe
    Hannah, when my grandparents came to America I am sure they wanted their relatives to follow and join them in their Italian neighborhoods. However, back then, it was sink or swim. No EBT cards, no SNAP, no Medicaid, no Section Eight housing vouchers, so of course you wanted your relatives here in case you needed help. Now you put one foot on America's shores and the government guarantees that you live better than you did in your homeland.

    OK. Now you’ve outed yourself. I thought you were a descendent of Buffalo Bill Cody. Instead, you’re Italian. My best friend is half Italian, but at least he was straight with it. I’m done with you Joe. Even though your comments were great.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Neil, How quickly you throw me overboard.
  166. Who gets to abandon his own homeland, culture, and people to become this ‘glot’ called ‘American’?

    PS. Why can’t they be ‘American’ in their own homeland when it’s a universal recipe?

    Just like an apple pie can be made anywhere, anyone anywhere can become ‘American’. Just imitate dumb stuff on TV.

  167. @peterike
    PeterIke's Law is shifting into over-drive, and anti-white Asians are now thick on the ground and being published and promoted everywhere at once. It's going to get much worse and much sooner than you might think.

    What is peterike’s law?

  168. @Detective Club
    Getting ready to vote early and often, using provisional and mail-in ballots, against Trump in 2020.
    https://youtu.be/jl_9ayxs69A
    The TIME cover is really an obituary notice for the United States of America.

    Sadly but you are correct Pilgrim, this last election was a real heartbreaker, I was hoping against hope that there may be sliver of green shoots among non AA POC’s especially in 2′nd to 8′th income deciles, but sadly I did not see one, and with that any chance of Steve’s citizenship kind of philosophy take hold. If the kind dollar stays up, I actually see CA like future for USofA where R’s will get get permanently pushed to minority status and with their corrupt establishment will gladly stay there, leaving their voters to fend for themselves.

    We were thinking about winding our properties in the mother country, but will skip that as chance of needing to move again is now greater than 0%.

  169. @Alec Leamas
    I think that pregnant in Mr. Nguyen's question is the real question, which is: "Who gets to decide who gets to be American?"

    The "artwork" accompanying the question seems to provide the answer to Mr. Nguyen's rhetorical question: "Not you, whitey."

    I think that pregnant in Mr. Nguyen’s question is the real question, which is: “Who gets to decide who gets to be American?”

    Also pregnant–but never mentioned–is *why* do these people want to be American?

    Why have all these people come here? It doesn’t seem to be to get 160 acres of rich deep black soil on the prairies. There must be some reason?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Why have all these people come here? It doesn’t seem to be to get 160 acres of rich deep black soil on the prairies. There must be some reason?
     
    They come for 1/6 acre of rich deep black gas station or liquor store, purchased with an 8a loan from the SBA.
  170. @istevefan

    Well, you have the Crusades of the 1100-1400′s, and then the Age of Exploration from 1400 onward. I see where you are calling me out for using the word “promptly”.
     
    No, I just wanted to see if you included the pre-Christian Greeks and Romans in your list of European conquerors. I don't think I've ever seen someone debating your side ever use those ancients in their laundry list of European evildoers, which makes me wonder if your problem is really with Christian Europe and not just with Europe itself.

    “No, I just wanted to see if you included the pre-Christian Greeks and Romans in your list of European conquerors. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone debating your side ever use those ancients in their laundry list of European evildoers, which makes me wonder if your problem is really with Christian Europe and not just with Europe itself.”

    I figure since the Jews and darkies are generally castigated for everything bad in this world (and deservedly so, right), I’ll let the Greeks and Romans slide by and go for the jugular with Europeans. Both of their cultures were pretty cool. Call it a soft spot, but I just do not have the heart to put them on the wrong side of the ledger when it comes to “evildoers”. Although I have to admit that Christian Europe does have some worthy things, too. You know, like the Bible and the pope.

  171. @Corvinus
    "Exactly. The future belongs to those who will literally fight for it. And there will be fighting."

    So, if there is this fighting, are you going to be at the front of the line Proud Boys style, or are you going to watch from the sidelines as skulls get bashed in?

    You haven’t answered my question.

    ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?

  172. @Bragadocious
    This guy checks all the boxes in his story:

    - Says he's better and smarter than native born Americans (the Apu Theory)

    - Uses the pronoun "I" about 7 billion times

    - Claims, fraudulently, that Trump wants to deport naturalized citizens

    Fun fact: There are more than 2000 Nguyens in state prison in California. Are they more accomplished than average Americans?

    Viets are smarter than Americans? Tell it to the Viets. They all want to leave Vietnam and immigrate to America, even today.

    Ever been to Vietnam? I have. The Viets could never, ever build a society like Americans have built. Ever.

    Here’s a little anecdote. Some years ago OC was trying to get more non-Whites onto the police force. The idea was that people who looked like you should be policing your community.

    For a domestic disturbance call in Little Saigon the cops dispatched a Viet officer. The Viet who called the cops took one look at him and said “No, I don’t want a Viet officer, I want an American!”

    Says it all right there, doesn’t it?

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    "Ever been to Vietnam? I have. The Viets could never, ever build a society like Americans have built. Ever."


    Unlike what the French did on the continent of Africa --- Vietnamese had every opportunity to build a nation state of vibrancy. Instead they chose to overthrow the monarchy, disrupt attempts at democracy building and rejected broader wealth creation via capital markets. Instead they chose to massacre hundreds of thousands many of their best in the communist "clean slate" progroms. The war did destroy Vietnam -- Vietnamese communists decimated their future


    What they could have had in 1950 they are now looking to the west to provide.

    ----------------------

    A moratorium on all immigration for five years works for me.

  173. @Detective Club
    OFF TOPIC : This very old French lady thinks Merkel is Macron's wife!
    https://youtu.be/HlsLbu2sDQQ

    She didn’t realise Macron is gay? Merkel would make a good beard.

  174. @anonymous
    The deimagining Rockwell photo trend is really lame, so lame they always have to tell you what it is. Uh Rockwell was an illustrator with a distinctive style — let’s put some effort in here people — get thee to a drawing board.

    Does anyone under fifty know who Rockwell is?

    Ho-kay, now I have to walk down a tree lined dirt path to get my Saturday Evening Post from the mailbox.

    Any relation between Norman, Llewellyn and Lincoln Rockwell?

  175. @Cagey Beast
    The TIME cover is really an obituary notice for the United States of America.

    For better or worse, this is true. One of the worst things Conservatism Inc. did over the last four or five decades was to act as the opiate of the White middle class man. It kept us thinking these other people were "just visiting" or that the "Loonie Left" was just something to laugh about over gin & tonics. Collectively, we're only wising up now. But it's too late to get back what our fathers and grandfathers took for granted.

    For better or worse, this is true.

    What gets better?

    One of the worst things Conservatism Inc. did over the last four or five decades was to act as the opiate of the White middle class man.

    There were plenty of prophets, overwhelmed by modern transportation and communication in the service to growing the GDP. For that matter, the Left was the voice of immigration restriction for a while, until they weren’t for the same reasons.

  176. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/viet_t_nguyen/status/1065090069399126016

    Otherwise only gotten positive messages.

    A reminder that we are not having a debate that results in a changed public policy. We just have the exultation of looters plying their trade.

  177. @Tiny Duck
    If Peopke of Col R have to deal with it fur -000 years than white odious can just get over it
    What's wring just attests toy cabby finest then you should you be avid to compete

    If white hen are do great then you should Delhi e the color Turin

    Mall Urpie of Cooor are all Susa tree with you
    M

    I think Tiny Duck speaks for all of us, when he so sagely says:

    “Mall Urpie of Cooor are all Susa tree with you”

    Indeed, Sir! Indeed!

  178. @AnotherDad

    I think that pregnant in Mr. Nguyen’s question is the real question, which is: “Who gets to decide who gets to be American?”
     
    Also pregnant--but never mentioned--is *why* do these people want to be American?

    Why have all these people come here? It doesn't seem to be to get 160 acres of rich deep black soil on the prairies. There must be some reason?

    Why have all these people come here? It doesn’t seem to be to get 160 acres of rich deep black soil on the prairies. There must be some reason?

    They come for 1/6 acre of rich deep black gas station or liquor store, purchased with an 8a loan from the SBA.

  179. @Corvinus
    "Not according the the Naturalization Act of 1790 which was written by many of our Founders and signed into law by the Founding Father himself."

    My reference was to Vox Day's insistence that the only "true" Americans are those who have a direct line to the Thirteen Colonies. Regardless, that piece of legislation was subject to changes by future generations, i.e. our posterity.

    "Can you give me the specific years or centuries about which you are referring to when you wrote that “Europeans promptly engaged in imperialism”."

    Well, you have the Crusades of the 1100-1400's, and then the Age of Exploration from 1400 onward. I see where you are calling me out for using the word "promptly". Regardless, white people who insist they developed everything in the world while minimizing the damage they also inflicted around the world are idiots.

    My reference was to Vox Day’s insistence that the only “true” Americans are those who have a direct line to the Thirteen Colonies. Regardless, that piece of legislation was subject to changes by future generations, i.e. our posterity.

    Emmanuel Cellar was not part of the “our posterity” mentioned in the Consitution. Nor are many of the current boosters of unlimited immigration who ceaselessly harange us about “what it means to be an American”. They are part of some other posterity.

    You, on the other hand, are the posterity of a posterior.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Emmanuel Cellar was not part of the “our posterity” mentioned in the Consitution."

    Of course he was, you are just straight up lying.

    "Bulls**t. The Guatamalans and Nigerians of that time period, as of this time period, are………….Guatamalans and Nigerians. "

    Who, like Eastern and Southern Europeans, were considered by nativists as being incapable of assimilating.

    "Yes, I am scared of people with face and neck tattoos who cut off their enemies heads with machetes."

    That would be your imagination running wild yet again, my fellow white American.
  180. @Corvinus
    "In fact our country felt before, in the 1920s, that immigration had been too problematic and put an immigration moratorium into effect for 40 years."

    It wasn't a "moratorium", it was a quota. This quota targeted Eastern and Southern Europeans in particular, the Guatamalans and Nigerians of the time period.

    "Maybe we should follow suit? We also are not bound by whatever choice we made in the past, whether it was to open or close borders."

    Absolutely. I am of the mindset that we are desperate need of immigration reform, which includes reducing dramatically the number of people entering our shores. But I am opposed to having a ban on certain groups. Because they scare us.

    It wasn’t a “moratorium”, it was a quota. This quota targeted Eastern and Southern Europeans in particular, the Guatamalans and Nigerians of the time period.

    Bulls**t. The Guatamalans and Nigerians of that time period, as of this time period, are………….Guatamalans and Nigerians. There are differences between peoples, your inability to recognize it or admit notwithstanding.

    Absolutely. I am of the mindset that we are desperate need of immigration reform, which includes reducing dramatically the number of people entering our shores. But I am opposed to having a ban on certain groups. Because they scare us.

    Yes, I am scared of people with face and neck tattoos who cut off their enemies heads with machetes. And of their mothers who bore such people, and of the whole society that creates them. Why shouldn’t we ban people from crappy, low-functioning countries?

    You are a contemptible idiot. I sincerely hope that you get to live amongst the full range of diversity you want to foist off on the rest of us. I hope you get to wallow in it like a pig in s**t.

  181. @Anonymous
    What’s not so funny is why the voice and wishes of the American people have never been asked or listened to over Immigration. I pay taxes that support the whole shebang, my ancestors have been here for centuries building the place, I have 2 sons who will have to live with the consequences,why shouldn’t I have a say in it?

    the voice and wishes of the American people have never been asked or listened to over Immigration

    they were

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

    something changed between 1924 and 1965

    • Replies: @L Woods
    What changed is that the elite were scared straight. Fear and intimidation work.
    , @Anonymous
    The Bolshevik revolution scared people with money and power - scared them enough that they were willing to forego cheap immigrant labor in order to keep out potential revolutionaries.
  182. @anonymous
    The deimagining Rockwell photo trend is really lame, so lame they always have to tell you what it is. Uh Rockwell was an illustrator with a distinctive style — let’s put some effort in here people — get thee to a drawing board.

    Does anyone under fifty know who Rockwell is?

    Ho-kay, now I have to walk down a tree lined dirt path to get my Saturday Evening Post from the mailbox.

    The deimagining Rockwell photo trend is really lame

    it’s a display of raw power

    the same people who attack whites over cultural appropriation blatantly appropriate white culture.

    • Agree: Thea
  183. @Anthony Wayne
    On the subject of immigrants’ cousins, I’ve never understood how clannishness (as opposed to the nuclear family) makes one more likely to marry his cousins. Healthy cultures do not produce this outcome.

    On topic: Michigan judge dismisses female genital mutilation cases. Everyone on earth has a fundamental right to come to the US and savagely abuse their daughters.

    I’ve never understood how clannishness (as opposed to the nuclear family) makes one more likely to marry his cousins

    the marriages are arranged by the parents

  184. @Barnard
    Time claims the median age of their readers is 50. That is possibly true for website views, but for the print magazine that is hard to believe.

    Time claims the median age of their readers is 50. That is possibly true for website views, but for the print magazine that is hard to believe.

    I could believe it. One of their readers is 25, another two are 50, and the fourth is 75.

  185. @Anon
    Worst of all are the southern descendants of Irish and Scot convicts slaves and indentured servants deported to America by the English who claim to be Anglo Saxons.

    they are – the difference is in England the polite ones are in the south and the rough ones are in the north

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Reivers

  186. @AndrewR
    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald's, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You're free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can't bring myself to do so.

    its true, why would any sane white person claim to love America now?

  187. Multiculturalism or Diversity means non-whites preferring white people over their own kind. It’s about non-whites running from their own peoples & cultures to live off whites as the abler and stabler race.

  188. anon[374] • Disclaimer says:
    @Random Smartaleck

    I’ve never understood how someone can hold the view that the land belongs to the natives while simultaneously believing the land belongs everyone.
     
    Or how non-Native non-Whites think they get a free pass to stay on "occupied" land simply because they aren't White. Sorry guys, from the Native perspective you are just as much invaders as we are.

    The funniest version of this comes from Latinos who assert that this is "our" land because they are "native" too. But unless the Native portion of their ancestry is from the local tribe, their claim to the land is no more legitimate than any White man's. It's like a Frenchman claiming the right to illegally occupy land in Hungary simply because "we are all one White people". Yeah, that would fly about as well as it would between a mestizo and a Comanche.

    Or how non-Native non-Whites think they get a free pass to stay on “occupied” land simply because they aren’t White. Sorry guys, from the Native perspective you are just as much invaders as we are.

    and jews

    this is the funny thing though, they rail about the evils of America and yet for some reason they’re still here

    if you hate America or white people, have some integrity and LEAVE

  189. @Reg Cæsar
    Somebody tell the bartender to cut Rufus off.

    Rufus be downing 40 oz malt liquor

    there’s no bartender to cut him off

  190. @Hannah Katz
    Funny how Mexican Americans want more Mexicans to immigrate here. Muslims want more Muslims, etc. No surprise as we are all nepotistic.

    Let's get some "on the street" interviews with Mexicans or Muslims or whatever where they are asked about greatly increasing the numbers of Chinese and Indians immigrating to America to help fill the high tech job openings. After all, there are about 8 of them for every American, so no shortage of immigrants to fill up America. I bet they are not so enthusiastic about immigration then.

    It’s the hoards, fighting over the scraps.

  191. @AndrewR
    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald's, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You're free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can't bring myself to do so.

    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald’s, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You’re free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can’t bring myself to do so.

    Collectively, those things are called “The American Dream”.

    Not my idea of a dream either.

  192. @notanon

    the voice and wishes of the American people have never been asked or listened to over Immigration
     
    they were

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

    something changed between 1924 and 1965

    What changed is that the elite were scared straight. Fear and intimidation work.

  193. @J.Ross
    Insofar as anything is a fact in psychiatry, it is a rock-solid, take-it-to-the-bank fact that glamorizing a behavior guarantees copycats. This is the basis of Dr Park Dietz's advice on the reporting of mass shootings, ignored today on NPR in a factless puff piece which mentioned the word "shooting" multiple times in every sentence, amid emotional blather about how dramatic it all was. Another outrageous mass media attack on public safety is the TV show 13 Reasons Why, the show that wants teenagers to think that committing suicide guarantees that people who ignored you in life will pay attention to you if you kill yourself. I'm not exaggerating, that's the foundational conceit of the show: if you kill yourself, you will gain superpowers. It's like there was a show telling kids to drink bleach, but the producers say don't worry, there's lots of secial effects and acting illustrating how dramatic and heroic bleach drinking is.
    Now a U of M study has confirmed what everybody already knew and what numerous critics have pointed out.
    https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/1065073563869184000

    “the TV show 13 Reasons Why, the show that wants teenagers to think that committing suicide guarantees that people who ignored you in life will pay attention to you if you kill yourself.”

    If ever as a teenager i were at all tempted to think that way it ended the minute I actually saw another teenager actually laugh when hearing about some other kid committing suicide. Most people who are assholes to you in life will not suddenly stop being assholes because you made them feel bad by killing yourself.

  194. @notanon

    the voice and wishes of the American people have never been asked or listened to over Immigration
     
    they were

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

    something changed between 1924 and 1965

    The Bolshevik revolution scared people with money and power – scared them enough that they were willing to forego cheap immigrant labor in order to keep out potential revolutionaries.

  195. @Moses
    Viets are smarter than Americans? Tell it to the Viets. They all want to leave Vietnam and immigrate to America, even today.

    Ever been to Vietnam? I have. The Viets could never, ever build a society like Americans have built. Ever.

    Here's a little anecdote. Some years ago OC was trying to get more non-Whites onto the police force. The idea was that people who looked like you should be policing your community.

    For a domestic disturbance call in Little Saigon the cops dispatched a Viet officer. The Viet who called the cops took one look at him and said "No, I don't want a Viet officer, I want an American!"

    Says it all right there, doesn't it?

    “Ever been to Vietnam? I have. The Viets could never, ever build a society like Americans have built. Ever.”

    Unlike what the French did on the continent of Africa — Vietnamese had every opportunity to build a nation state of vibrancy. Instead they chose to overthrow the monarchy, disrupt attempts at democracy building and rejected broader wealth creation via capital markets. Instead they chose to massacre hundreds of thousands many of their best in the communist “clean slate” progroms. The war did destroy Vietnam — Vietnamese communists decimated their future

    What they could have had in 1950 they are now looking to the west to provide.

    ———————-

    A moratorium on all immigration for five years works for me.

  196. @Cagey Beast
    The TIME cover is really an obituary notice for the United States of America.

    For better or worse, this is true. One of the worst things Conservatism Inc. did over the last four or five decades was to act as the opiate of the White middle class man. It kept us thinking these other people were "just visiting" or that the "Loonie Left" was just something to laugh about over gin & tonics. Collectively, we're only wising up now. But it's too late to get back what our fathers and grandfathers took for granted.

    Actually, many people were aware of what was going on at the time, but they were silenced. For many years, the percentage of the population that were “wising up” was shrinking. Once an outrage has been inflicted on the people, the percentage of those who submit to it grows with time.

  197. @Neil Templeton
    OK. Now you've outed yourself. I thought you were a descendent of Buffalo Bill Cody. Instead, you're Italian. My best friend is half Italian, but at least he was straight with it. I'm done with you Joe. Even though your comments were great.

    Neil, How quickly you throw me overboard.

  198. @Corvinus
    "Not according the the Naturalization Act of 1790 which was written by many of our Founders and signed into law by the Founding Father himself."

    My reference was to Vox Day's insistence that the only "true" Americans are those who have a direct line to the Thirteen Colonies. Regardless, that piece of legislation was subject to changes by future generations, i.e. our posterity.

    "Can you give me the specific years or centuries about which you are referring to when you wrote that “Europeans promptly engaged in imperialism”."

    Well, you have the Crusades of the 1100-1400's, and then the Age of Exploration from 1400 onward. I see where you are calling me out for using the word "promptly". Regardless, white people who insist they developed everything in the world while minimizing the damage they also inflicted around the world are idiots.

    The Crusades were a response to the aggression of Islam encroachment on Christiandom.

  199. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Leadership of America??????? You’ve obviously never read a word of American history. The leadership of Jamestown allowed the first shipment of Africans to land and stay in 1619 and continued eagerly importing them till 1808 and thus created America’s biggest, most long lasting problem that will never be solved.

    In the 1640s the leadership were thrilled when Cromwell sent about 75,000 non Anglo Saxon non German Celtic Irish Roman Catholic slaves to the colonies and the British kept sending themuntil the revolution.

    From about 1820 until 1924 the great Anglo Saxon leadership sent recruiters to every non Anglo Saxon non Wasp corner of Europe and even non Protestant eastern Christian countries such as Syria and Lebanon to find cheap labor to as to drive the American Anglo saxons out of work.

    Why do you think the west ward expansion took off after about 1820? It wasn’t the leadership and their non WASP cheap labor immigrants.

    It was the original WASP settlers driven out of the east coast by the WASP founding leadership and their prefence for non WASP cheap labor.

    The WASP leadership since 1619 has always used non WASP immigrants from 1600s Africans and Irish Catholics to the non WASP non Whites immigrant hordes of today against the rest of us WASPs.

    The WASP leadership was in decline from 1900 on. By 1970 they were destroyed and took the rest of us with them.

    Consider, the person most responsible for getting us into WW1 was Sam Untermyer son of German Jewish immigrants. His blackmail of idiot ultra WASP leader president Wilson was the single most motivating factor for Wilson.

    BTW, many of the founders Presidents generals and other leaders weren’t Anglo saxons at all, but Scots and Scots Irish who were ethnically, culturally and religiously pure Scots who only stayed in Ireland for a few decades.

    Mark Twain had it right when he diagnosed Walter Scott disease 170 years ago.

    Don’t blame the African Irish and other non WASP immigrants for the demise of the WASPS. Blame the WASP leadership.

    And I wish you wouldn’t use the word WASP. It’s a perjorative, a hateful slur, no different from dago, fag or wop invented by immigrant Jews in the early 20 th century

    Slavery in the English colonies may have first appeared in Jamestown in 1619 but by about 5 years later it was already in New England. The true king of slave trafficking in the US back in the day was the Massachusetts Bay Colony though the history books tend to be a bit forgetful about that part as it doesn’t fit the narrative of red state south evil slavers, blue state north virtuous slavery haters.

  200. @AndrewR
    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald's, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You're free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can't bring myself to do so.

    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald’s, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You’re free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can’t bring myself to do so.

    1. Wal-Mart is an efficient purveyor of retail trade. No one is compelling you to shop ther.

    2. Wall Street: no clue how you fancy a modern economy operates without capital markets

    3. ‘warmongering’ is a nonsense term, not a coherent concept.

    4. NASCAR: if you don’t like motorsports, don’t spend your time on them. If you prefer Le Mans, here it is:

    5. BLM: it’s a lousy political movement, but one indulged in by the few. The Communist Party used to command a quarter of the French electorate, which is an indulgence of the many. You’re not going to be free of ludicrous sectaries by emigrating. You’ll just have ludicrous sectaries yapping at you in some foreign tongue.

    6. Third world cities are to be found in the third world. We have urban slums. Other than Detroit, they don’t resemble 3d world cities in their amenities. The problem there is crime and disorder (about which very few people on these boards care about addressing).

    7. ‘Hebrew supremacy’ is a fantasy.

    8. ‘Mass shootings’ you find abroad as well. They’re more likely to be politically-motivated in those loci, of course.

    9. ‘obesity’ is something you’ll find the world over wherever malnutrition is uncommon

    10. McDonald’s: no one is compelling you to eat there. (And it’s also a global enterprise for a reason).

    11. ‘shitty and overpriced health care’ is a fantasy. You’re not going to get better medical care by emigrating. You might find more rational cost allocation. (A subject in which no one on this board expresses and interest).

    12. ‘Zionism’: no clue why Israel bothers you, or what that has to do with daily life in America.

    13. ‘gay pride parades’: something you will find in every occidental country in the world with a certain threshold of affluence.

    14. ‘Radical feminism’: quite uncommon outside of college campuses, and, again a feature of intellectual life all over northern Europe, in Canada, &c.

    15. “The police state” is a fantasy.

    Your problem, really, is one you encounter when you look in the mirror.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @notanon

    2. Wall Street: no clue how you fancy a modern economy operates without capital markets
     
    a healthy national economy needs a national capital market - Wall St is a global capital market
    , @AndrewR
    You really told me
  201. @Art Deco
    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald’s, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You’re free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can’t bring myself to do so.

    1. Wal-Mart is an efficient purveyor of retail trade. No one is compelling you to shop ther.

    2. Wall Street: no clue how you fancy a modern economy operates without capital markets

    3. 'warmongering' is a nonsense term, not a coherent concept.

    4. NASCAR: if you don't like motorsports, don't spend your time on them. If you prefer Le Mans, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMoh5hZAaZk

    5. BLM: it's a lousy political movement, but one indulged in by the few. The Communist Party used to command a quarter of the French electorate, which is an indulgence of the many. You're not going to be free of ludicrous sectaries by emigrating. You'll just have ludicrous sectaries yapping at you in some foreign tongue.

    6. Third world cities are to be found in the third world. We have urban slums. Other than Detroit, they don't resemble 3d world cities in their amenities. The problem there is crime and disorder (about which very few people on these boards care about addressing).

    7. 'Hebrew supremacy' is a fantasy.

    8. 'Mass shootings' you find abroad as well. They're more likely to be politically-motivated in those loci, of course.

    9. 'obesity' is something you'll find the world over wherever malnutrition is uncommon

    10. McDonald's: no one is compelling you to eat there. (And it's also a global enterprise for a reason).

    11. 'shitty and overpriced health care' is a fantasy. You're not going to get better medical care by emigrating. You might find more rational cost allocation. (A subject in which no one on this board expresses and interest).

    12. 'Zionism': no clue why Israel bothers you, or what that has to do with daily life in America.

    13. 'gay pride parades': something you will find in every occidental country in the world with a certain threshold of affluence.

    14. 'Radical feminism': quite uncommon outside of college campuses, and, again a feature of intellectual life all over northern Europe, in Canada, &c.

    15. "The police state" is a fantasy.

    Your problem, really, is one you encounter when you look in the mirror.

    2. Wall Street: no clue how you fancy a modern economy operates without capital markets

    a healthy national economy needs a national capital market – Wall St is a global capital market

  202. @Art Deco
    I mean really, what does America represent? Wal-Mart, Wall Street, warmongering, Nascar, BLM, third world cities, hatred of whites, Hebrew supremacy, mass shootings, obesity, McDonald’s, shitty and overpriced health care, Zionism, gay pride parades, radical feminism, forced multiculturalism, the surveillance state, police state, etc. You’re free to love these things, or love America in spite of them, but I just can’t bring myself to do so.

    1. Wal-Mart is an efficient purveyor of retail trade. No one is compelling you to shop ther.

    2. Wall Street: no clue how you fancy a modern economy operates without capital markets

    3. 'warmongering' is a nonsense term, not a coherent concept.

    4. NASCAR: if you don't like motorsports, don't spend your time on them. If you prefer Le Mans, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMoh5hZAaZk

    5. BLM: it's a lousy political movement, but one indulged in by the few. The Communist Party used to command a quarter of the French electorate, which is an indulgence of the many. You're not going to be free of ludicrous sectaries by emigrating. You'll just have ludicrous sectaries yapping at you in some foreign tongue.

    6. Third world cities are to be found in the third world. We have urban slums. Other than Detroit, they don't resemble 3d world cities in their amenities. The problem there is crime and disorder (about which very few people on these boards care about addressing).

    7. 'Hebrew supremacy' is a fantasy.

    8. 'Mass shootings' you find abroad as well. They're more likely to be politically-motivated in those loci, of course.

    9. 'obesity' is something you'll find the world over wherever malnutrition is uncommon

    10. McDonald's: no one is compelling you to eat there. (And it's also a global enterprise for a reason).

    11. 'shitty and overpriced health care' is a fantasy. You're not going to get better medical care by emigrating. You might find more rational cost allocation. (A subject in which no one on this board expresses and interest).

    12. 'Zionism': no clue why Israel bothers you, or what that has to do with daily life in America.

    13. 'gay pride parades': something you will find in every occidental country in the world with a certain threshold of affluence.

    14. 'Radical feminism': quite uncommon outside of college campuses, and, again a feature of intellectual life all over northern Europe, in Canada, &c.

    15. "The police state" is a fantasy.

    Your problem, really, is one you encounter when you look in the mirror.

    You really told me

  203. @Mr. Anon

    My reference was to Vox Day’s insistence that the only “true” Americans are those who have a direct line to the Thirteen Colonies. Regardless, that piece of legislation was subject to changes by future generations, i.e. our posterity.
     
    Emmanuel Cellar was not part of the "our posterity" mentioned in the Consitution. Nor are many of the current boosters of unlimited immigration who ceaselessly harange us about "what it means to be an American". They are part of some other posterity.

    You, on the other hand, are the posterity of a posterior.

    “Emmanuel Cellar was not part of the “our posterity” mentioned in the Consitution.”

    Of course he was, you are just straight up lying.

    “Bulls**t. The Guatamalans and Nigerians of that time period, as of this time period, are………….Guatamalans and Nigerians. ”

    Who, like Eastern and Southern Europeans, were considered by nativists as being incapable of assimilating.

    “Yes, I am scared of people with face and neck tattoos who cut off their enemies heads with machetes.”

    That would be your imagination running wild yet again, my fellow white American.

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