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iSteve commenter Duke of Qin writes:

Steve Sailer writes in his new Taki’s Magazine column:

The Indian moviegoing masses seem to share the pro-Aryan prejudices of the old Northern European philosophers, with most Bollywood stars drawn from the fairer and taller Northern Indians with more steppe descent.

Steve, you are certainly not aware of this and most Chinese are probably ignorant of this too, but the Chinese entertainment industry does discriminate against “Southern” Chinese. By “Southern” I mean explicitly the extreme south coastal provinces of Guangdong and Fujian. What is interesting is that the discrimination while quantifiable seems to be entirely directed against women and doesn’t seem to impact men or perhaps not to anywhere near a significant degree so no one seems to care or even recognize it. I actually compiled a list of major Chinese TV shows within the last few years featuring young “starlets” in lead and supporting roles and basically out of the hundred or so actresses I looked at, I couldn’t find one of Guangdong or Fujian ancestry. The few mainland TV productions that did feature actresses from these two provinces were always 40+ and playing the old lady roles, and mainly from Hong Kong. This is surprising because these are two of China’s wealthiest provinces and Guangdong at least is one of China’s most populous so you would expect more actresses coming from there but no.

The young actresses came from practically every other provinces, with even Yunnan represented. The areas of China that were overrepresented are basically divided into three regions: the North China heartland of Shanxi, Hebei, Shandong (Shandong is especially overrepresented) and adjacent Dongbei (Again heavily overrepresented and since these populations are descended from 19th century Shandong emigres), the Jiangnan region covering Jiangsu and Zhejiang, and finally Sichuan.

Basically the areas over-represented fit into long held Chinese regional stereotypes. Northern beauties are tall and fair, Jiangnan cuties are feminine and cultured, Sichuan hotties are extra “spicey”. Guangdong women, and to a lesser degree Fujian are generally stereotyped in China as short, dark, and worst of all shrewish. What hits them worse than their physical shortcomings is the stereotype of them as unpleasant and demanding women prone to henpeckery.

Perhaps the Chinese movie industry is full of vulgar but energetic movie producers from Guangdong with names like Harb Won-ton who are notorious for casting / hitting on all the non-Guangdong actresses?

Now while these stereotypes are just stereotypes, there is actually a genetic component. The Chinese of North and Central China are extremely genetically homogenous. Across the entire North China plain, the Fst values barely even touch 0.0001 and central to North it’s only around 0.0005 to 0.001. The primary outliers to this are hilly and mountainous Guangdong and Fujian which are 0.003 to 0.0015 diverged from North China. The Northern Han are basically a composite population of ancient Northerneastern Eurasian hunter gatherers and a “Sinitic” component originating from where I theorize was the Himalayan headwaters of the yellow river some 5-6 kya that basically demographically obliterated them like Yamnaya steppe nomads did to the European hunter gatherers and Anatolian farmers, but to an even more complete degree. Europeans are generally 20% steppe ancestry max, while the the Northern Han are 85% Sinitic and 15% Northeastern hunter gatherer. The central Chinese are roughly 90% Northern Han and 10% Southern-Central Chinese native which is basically the Tai-Kidai peoples that were also demographically overwhelmed and pushed South to populate what is now Southeast Asia. The Han Chinese of Guangdong are basically the most divergent from the ancestral population as they are on average about 70% Northern Han and almost 30% Tai-Kadai native. Amusingly enough, the population of Guangdong seems to be the inverse of the neighboring Vietnamese who are 30% Northern Han ancestry and are 70% Tai-Kadai.

One more odd detail I wanted to mention is that I suspect it is the sinitic ancestry component that drives selection for height among East Asian populations. The South Koreans are the tallest for now in the far east but they have stopped growing. Their population structure is basically 50/50 split between ancestral Northeastern hunter gatherer and the Sinitic component. The Japanese are basically 85/10/5 for northeastern hunter gatherer, sinitic, and south-central China Tai-Kadai ancestry and are on average 3 centimeters shorter than the South Koreans. The ancient northeastern hunter gatherer seems to select for short and stocky like the Mongolians and other current Siberian populations. The North Koreans, before the division were taller than the South Koreans and their ancestry is almost certainly even more shifted towards to the sinitic component than their Southern counterparts. The Chinese of the North China plain are now only slightly shorter than the South Koreans and more importantly, still growing. The most developed parts of Southern Han ancestry seems to top out similar to Japan (see Hong Kong/Singapore/Taiwan) but the Han of the North have historically been significantly taller, on average 5-6 centimeters.

 
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  1. OT: Innumerate CNN presstitute, who implies the Holocaust happened in the 1950s, brags about Jewish hegemony. “Even Donald Trump won’t double down when accused of anti-semitism.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/opinions/uk-labour-party-corbyn-anti-semitism-rosa-prince-opinion/index.html

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  2. Ah yes, “Guangdong dogs,” and relevant to our immigration history because our early Chinese immigrants were almost exclusively from the bottom of society of the least-liked province. Sometimes Chinese explain American disapproval of a Chinese action in terms of us taking Newfies for Canucks. Libertarian Reason magazine had a cover story about the Guangdong free enterprise spirit (the mountains are tall and the emperor is far away), which is seen by other Chinese as unscrupulousness.

    OT In order that Germany be less like Nazi Germany, the state shall take your children.

    https://www.thelocal.de/20180404/police-union-calls-for-children-to-be-taken-away-from-anti-semitic-parents

    >The head of Germany’s second largest police union has responded to recent reports of anti-Semitism in the schoolyard by saying that authorities should be allowed to take children away from anti-Semitic parents.

    >“Authorities need to act decisively [against anti-Semitism] including when the aggression comes from migrants,” Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union (DPolG) told the Augsburger Allgemeine on Wednesday.

    >“If children are raised to become anti-Semites we shouldn’t be afraid to take them away from their families,” he added.

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    What's Herr Wendt's stance on taking children away from anti-Germanic parents?
    , @Tyrion 2

    OT In order that Germany be less like Pakistan, the state shall take their children away.
     
    *Fixed.

    I suppose if the US had to use taxes to get Al Capone the Germans can be excused for using the instance of anti-Semitism to excuse policies to civilise their immigrant populations.

    Not that I support the Rabbit Proof Fence option. Indeed, once you arrive at that point you should be desperately questioning whomever is in charge of directions.

    , @Hodag
    As you know Guadong was described in English as Canton. Canton was the one spot in China where the rest of the world was allowed to trade with China. There was a three hundred yard wide strip of land where Western merchants could set up shop. One speculates that there was selection pressure to create a trading caste, one that exists throughout the world now. Amy Chua's people. The Taiping Rebellian helped disburse those folks as well.
    , @AnotherDad

    >“If children are raised to become anti-Semites we shouldn’t be afraid to take them away from their families,” he added.
     
    Hmm ... maybe you don't fill your nation up with incompatible foreigners and then you don't have to rip their families apart to instill your proper Germanic values? Just a thought.
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  3. To answer the headline question, as was partly shown in the Pacific Rim sequel (although I do not think that actress was from Guangdong), you acquire a boyfriend and he acquires an American movie franchise. But getting audiences to see it might entail more “work.”

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  4. Watch out a big blue is coming to sweep you guys away for good!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/04/wisconsins-gop-governor-warns-blue-wave-as-liberal-wins-court-seat.html

    More progressive judges, more acknowledgment of white supremacy and privilege. Get ready for a level playing field and more tolerance.

    I know you guys don’t like fairness but its coming whether you like it or not

    LISTEN to People of Color

    http://88cupsoftea.com/podcast/roshani-chokshi/

    Pay attention to how your behavior makes life hard for them

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    • Replies: @Karl
    4 Tiny Duck > LISTEN to People of Color


    Golani brigade will cut your dick off and use it to light the "necklace" tire we put on your head - if you enter here

    the Arabs enslaved you without effort. But they are donkeys compared to us

    The Rwandans will do the burial for us


    PS: this Attorney Tomer Warsha in Tel Aviv, appears to have a great track record in getting Green Cards for (desirable) foreigners. Telephone +972-3-561-5845, 972 is our country code

    , @Briny Schmuck
    Never forget how the White European Colonialists made life an unbearable misery for the indigenous tribes of India over the past 500 years:

    Mughal administrations raided forest tribal peoples for slaves, took thousands of prisoners as they invaded the South, and subjected those who defaulted on taxes to slavery.

     

    https://books.google.com/books?id=Jru5CAAAQBAJ&pg=PA52

    It is reported that in 1619-20 Abdullah Khan defeated all the hitherto un-subdued Chauhan rajas and 'rebels' of the Kalpi-Kanauj area he had been given to rule: he then had the principal men beheaded, while the peasants' women, daughters and children, to the number of 200,000, were at his instance transported to Iran and sold there."
     
    https://books.google.com/books?id=SrdiVPsFRYIC&pg=PA12

    No one can deny that white ppl are a cancer, plague and blight with no peers in human history.

    Whiteness is a unique evil in human history, and once it is completely ABOLISHED all the world's social problems will disappear, because only genetic bearers of the social construct of whiteness have an inborn predisposition for evil and corruption.
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  5. Wut?

    To me, all look same.

    In the way I can’t decipher tonality in Vietnamese, I also can’t decipher the nuances in how Chinese peoples look different. But I guess actresses have to be filtered based on something.

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    Indeed. This post needs pictures.
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  6. “Perhaps the Chinese movie industry is full of vulgar but energetic movie producers from Guangdong with names like Harb Won-ton who are notorious for casting / hitting on all the non-Guangdong actresses?”
    The problem with your analogy is that Jews are decidedly not underrepresented among actresses.

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    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    Aren't most of the Jewish actresses halfsies? Meaning, less Mayim Bialik and more Scarlett Johanssen? That's a big difference to those energetic, vulgar producers.
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  7. Northern – beauties – are tall and fair…

    Jiangnan – cuties – are feminine and cultured…

    Sichuan – hotties – are extra “spicy”…

    Guangdong women are – shrewish - unpleasant and demanding.

    Beauties, cuties, hotties, and shrews.

    So, China has all the same types of women that America does. Maybe the types are universal.

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    • Replies: @Twinkie

    Beauties, cuties, hotties, and shrews.

    So, China has all the same types of women that America does. Maybe the types are universal.
     
    You know the Chinese are people, too, right?
    , @jacques sheete

    So, China has all the same types of women that America does. Maybe the types are universal.
     
    American beauties, cuties and hotties? When did that happen?
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  8. My understanding is that most immigrants from China are from southern China. In other words, they’re not sending their best?

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    • Replies: @Duke of Qin
    The historic Chinese diaspora in Southeast Asia and the US/West prior to the recent post 90's immigration wave came almost exclusively from Guangdong and Fujian. To be even more specific, the majority actually originated from just two counties in Guangdong: Meixian and Chaozhou, and Changle in Fujian. The emigration patterns were both very specific and not very representative of the Han race. It would be akin to the "English" who settled in the US having all come from Wales and Cornwall and still speakers of Cornish. I think they are still probably over represented among recent immigrants, but no longer exclusive.

    They are an entrepreneurial people and quite clever but also quite insular and clannish, a given since the majority of them would have been closely related and coming from the same ancestral villages.
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  9. @TGGP
    "Perhaps the Chinese movie industry is full of vulgar but energetic movie producers from Guangdong with names like Harb Won-ton who are notorious for casting / hitting on all the non-Guangdong actresses?"
    The problem with your analogy is that Jews are decidedly not underrepresented among actresses.

    Aren’t most of the Jewish actresses halfsies? Meaning, less Mayim Bialik and more Scarlett Johanssen? That’s a big difference to those energetic, vulgar producers.

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    Most of the Jewish male actors and probably at this point even most of the directors and producers are halfsies. Still, plenty of actresses are 100% Jewish, like Natalie Portman (who was born in Jerusalem).
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  10. Anon[392] • Disclaimer says:

    you see this, too, in martial arts.
    In Kung Fu, there is a Northern style that favors distance striking and Southern Style which favors in-close mixing it up.
    The height thing makes both of those approaches make way more sense! If you are 6cms taller, range boxing is your natural go-to and if you’re 6 cms shorter, it makes sense to diffuse range by working on slipping and feignting to get in close

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    • Replies: @BlackBanana
    Nothing about Kung Fu “makes sense.” Devoting effort to learning it is a path to a false sense of security, and to getting your ass meted out to you in a live, non-choreographed situation.
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  11. So much fascinating stuff in this piece….

    I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion

    Over almost seven years and two serious relationships with Jewish men who at first said religion didn’t matter — and then backtracked and decided it did — I’ve optimistically begun interfaith relationships with an open mind twice, only to become the last woman these men dated before settling down with a nice Jewish girl.

    I can now say with certainty that I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion.

    At first glance, I fulfill the stereotypes of a white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP). I’m blond, often wear pearls and can mix an excellent, and very strong, martini. Manners and etiquette are important to me, and when I’m stressed, I often cope by cleaning. I do describe myself as Christian, but loosely and in the most liberal sense possible. I don’t discuss my faith the first time I meet someone or on first dates. But if I find myself falling for someone who does not share my spiritual views, I bring up the subject. If it’s going to be a problem, I want to know.

    That’s exactly what I did in my previous long-term relationships, both of which were with Jewish men. And both men said it wasn’t a problem that I was Christian, as they considered themselves culturally, but not spiritually, Jewish. At the very least, they were the most lackadaisical Jews I’d ever met. They never fasted on Yom Kippur or observed Jewish holidays on their own. And when they traveled to celebrate holidays with their families, they made it clear it was an obligation rather than a choice. On more than one occasion in conversation, we laughed about the fact that I knew more about the Jewish faith than they did.

    For the first few of the years I was dating these men, the fact that I was not Jewish rarely came up. My boyfriends helped decorate my Christmas trees, attended parties hosted by my friends from church, and their parents seemed to like me. I loved learning more about Judaism and sometimes even reminded them when certain holidays were approaching. When a spam email showed up in my account advertising a service to help me “Find Sincere Jewish Singles In Your Area!” I laughed and forwarded it to my boyfriend at the time, saying: “I think I’ve got that covered.”

    Sure, there were some tense moments in these relationships. One of their mothers was extremely overbearing, somehow getting my cellphone number and calling me, asking where her son was. I didn’t know where he was, and her calling me made me incredibly uncomfortable. I asked my boyfriend how she got my number — he swore he didn’t give it to her — and told him I didn’t want this kind of involvement to be part of our relationship. When he talked to her about it, she exploded, yelling, “If she were Jewish, she’d understand!” I wasn’t invited to the seders that his family held, despite my saying I had loved attending them with my friends. There were times at church that I saw couples worshiping together and felt pangs of jealousy. But I told myself every relationship had its problems and these were relatively minor.

    These issues weren’t there at first, but they started to appear after some time had passed and we were already in love. After years of dating, religion was suddenly a problem when it never had been before. I didn’t understand where it was coming from, and they weren’t able to explain it.

    Not being Jewish was not the official reason either of these relationships ended. There were other problems — money, careers and plans for the future — problems I wanted to at least try to work through. But when I tried to talk about them, somehow the fact that I wasn’t Jewish came up — even in conversations that had nothing to do with family or children. When I asked, “What does that have to do with this?” they didn’t — or couldn’t — answer and kept talking about Judaism.

    After we broke up, both men went on to find serious partners who were, in fact, Jewish. And while I try not to look back after a relationship ends, to go full-on Carrie Bradshaw, I couldn’t help but wonder if this was not just a coincidence but a pattern I should pay attention to. I didn’t doubt the love we’d had for each other, and I knew religion was one of the top reasons couples break up. But why did they say it didn’t matter and then decide it did — and find partners who fit the description they said they weren’t actually looking for?

    I guess dating me had been their last act of defiance against cultural or familial expectations before finding someone who warranted their parents’ approval — perhaps the equivalent of a woman dating a motorcycle-driving, leather-jacket wearing “bad boy” before settling down with a banker with a 9-5 job. I now half-jokingly consider myself a Jewish man’s rebellion and guard myself against again landing in that role.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2018/03/29/i-am-tired-of-being-a-jewish-mans-rebellion/?utm_term=.03df9e996ba5

    The reaction to her article has been most interesting…..

    ‘She Was Trying on a Culture’: Why Jews Are Fuming at Washington Post Essay Lamenting Jewish Boyfriend
    The anger sparked by the article in which a WASP complains about two failed relationships with Jewish boyfriends shows that, in 2018, perceived anti-Semitism strikes a highly sensitive nerve

    As expected, there was a huge social media backlash – and more than one scathing satire piece – sneering comically at her millennial solipsism and the fact that in a world where intermarriage is rampant, she could be so blind to the fact that these guys were just not that into her. There were plenty of jokes to that end, and also many referring to the decision to publish the piece on Passover, picking on Jews at a time when they’re deprived of their favorite comfort cuisine.

    But the red-hot intensity and anger sparked by the essay was unique to 2018 – a time in which Jews are attuned to anti-Semitism at a higher level than they have been in decades.

    They have good reason. For two years, over the course of the Trump campaign and presidency, a newly empowered alt-right movement of white nationalists has relentlessly flooded social media with its racist, anti-Semitic bile. And following the Harvey Weinstein scandal and other #MeToo cases involving Jewish men, numerous memes depicted ugly, white supremacist stereotypes of Jewish men defiling, abusing and discarding innocent white, Christian women. Beyond the internet, young men marched chanting the Nazi slogan “Blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us!” in Charlottesville; an actual Nazi is the Republican nominee for an Illinois congressional seat; and there has been a spike in anti-Semitic attacks in the United States.

    She didn’t directly invoke the racist archetype of the opportunistic and lustful Jewish man preying on innocent “shiksas,” just as she didn’t overtly state that, unlike herself, Jewish women are rude, messy and don’t know how to mix martinis.

    But neither did the existence of such anti-Semitic imagery – and the charged atmosphere of the moment – stop her from writing an article that portrayed her as the hapless blond, Christian, disposable plaything of callous Jewish men.

    One imagines that she (and her editors at the Post) may have thought twice before publishing a rant implying her mistreatment at the hands of nonwhite ex-boyfriends and their black, Latino or Muslim families.

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-hitting-a-nerve-with-a-sledgehammer-1.5975152

    WRITER OF JEWISH DATING OP-ED IN WASHINGTON POST APOLOGIZES
    Casey Purcell’s essay on swearing off Jewish men sparks ire online.

    New York Times writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner wondered if “maybe these Jewish men aren’t leaving you because you’re not Jewish as much as they’re leaving you because you hate Jews?” And Helen Rosner, a writer for The New Yorker, tweeted that “it’s definitely not super racist and pathologically narcissistic to write an op-ed in a major newspaper about how you’re done dating people of one specific religion, no sirree bob.”

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Writer-of-Jewish-dating-op-ed-in-Washington-Post-apologizes-547830

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    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    There is a lot there, but maybe she gets to the essence when she says that what those men did was "perhaps the equivalent of a woman dating a motorcycle-driving, leather-jacket wearing 'bad boy' before settling down with a banker with a 9-5 job."

    That is what many women do. So her ex-boyfriends were just doing their particular equivalent of that.

    Men don't have to be Jewish to do this, either. We typically have no problem sewing our wild oats among "hotties" during our bachelorhood that we would never marry. One could even say this is a typical WASP male thing!

    It is the essence of things, not the particulars that matter in this case, and it certainly is not wrong of her to describe her own, particular experiences.

    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    The responses from these bitter ladies to the broken-hearted shiksa's story would lead one to draw his own "shrewish" conclusions even if he'd never before heard about any of those "shrewish" stereotypes.
    , @1661er
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2017/11/02/is-he-interested-in-me-or-does-he-just-want-hamilton-tickets/?utm_term=.b9c6eecceea5

    I would love to meet a man who enjoys seeing theater and would appreciate all of the dates we’d go on together — not just “Hamilton.” One of the musical’s most famous lyrics states: “I am not throwing away my shot.” I wish these men would realize that when they ask if I can get them tickets, they have already thrown away theirs.
     
    Just 5 months ago she was complaining about men trying to date her for her access to "Hamilton" tickets. At some point, if no men are interested in her for her own sake, wether is to rebel against their upbringing, or to score hot Broadway tickets, etc.? Maybe there were one common denominator, her.
    , @Anonymous
    Statistics show that Jewish men marry shiksas about 40% of the time. As it was in my case. My mother was nonplussed when I told, some time in the 1950s, that I didn't plan on marrying a JAP (=Jewish American Princess). Nor did I. I married a tall shiksa with light brown hair. And my mother took it in stride and was very loving to her. And to her identical twin sister. So the author of this piece, assuming that she's telling the truth, and that there's nothing wrong with her wife-wise, had a exceptional string of bad luck events. Which makes me suspect that she made up the tale to have something to write about seeing that she's a writer.
    , @AnotherDad
    She's going to get pretty much the same sympathy from Jewish women, as black women have for Nicole Brown Simpson.
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  12. Don’t many tribes throughout the world share this bias? As I recall, there a peoples of Negroid, Mongoloid, and Caucasian race who possess forms of this bias, that is, that lighter-skinned Northern extraction peoples are of higher social status?

    I note that coin collecting also has a form of *this* bias. Lincoln pennies are graded for value both by quality (the closeness of approximation to uncirculated mint state, ranked from 1 to 70, with the latter being the highest mint state); and also by color (Lincoln pennies are graded “brown”, “”red-brown” and “red”; according to the tone of the copper oxide which colors the coin.) For two coins of identical quality, i.e., mint state; a “red” coin is worth far more money than a “brown” coin.

    Call it the “fair-haired child” bias.

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  13. Looks to me that the Chinese directors want to put the fairest Chinese women in their movies, meaning Northern Chinese women. That this is what the audiences want and will make their movie profitable. This is something like American actresses lightening their hair or going blond to look more fair to get more roles. The blacks actresses lighten up skin and complexions……. and tighten up too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=uN7vm-k-AaA

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  14. North vs. South

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    Watch out Hollywood!

    Thumbs up.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    A classic.
    , @Truth
    See Danny, this is why we need to go to Beijing and start 性感学院!
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  15. @syonredux
    So much fascinating stuff in this piece....


    I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion

    Over almost seven years and two serious relationships with Jewish men who at first said religion didn’t matter — and then backtracked and decided it did — I’ve optimistically begun interfaith relationships with an open mind twice, only to become the last woman these men dated before settling down with a nice Jewish girl.
     

    I can now say with certainty that I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion.
     

    At first glance, I fulfill the stereotypes of a white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP). I’m blond, often wear pearls and can mix an excellent, and very strong, martini. Manners and etiquette are important to me, and when I’m stressed, I often cope by cleaning. I do describe myself as Christian, but loosely and in the most liberal sense possible. I don’t discuss my faith the first time I meet someone or on first dates. But if I find myself falling for someone who does not share my spiritual views, I bring up the subject. If it’s going to be a problem, I want to know.

     


    That’s exactly what I did in my previous long-term relationships, both of which were with Jewish men. And both men said it wasn’t a problem that I was Christian, as they considered themselves culturally, but not spiritually, Jewish. At the very least, they were the most lackadaisical Jews I’d ever met. They never fasted on Yom Kippur or observed Jewish holidays on their own. And when they traveled to celebrate holidays with their families, they made it clear it was an obligation rather than a choice. On more than one occasion in conversation, we laughed about the fact that I knew more about the Jewish faith than they did.
     

    For the first few of the years I was dating these men, the fact that I was not Jewish rarely came up. My boyfriends helped decorate my Christmas trees, attended parties hosted by my friends from church, and their parents seemed to like me. I loved learning more about Judaism and sometimes even reminded them when certain holidays were approaching. When a spam email showed up in my account advertising a service to help me “Find Sincere Jewish Singles In Your Area!” I laughed and forwarded it to my boyfriend at the time, saying: “I think I’ve got that covered.”
     

    Sure, there were some tense moments in these relationships. One of their mothers was extremely overbearing, somehow getting my cellphone number and calling me, asking where her son was. I didn’t know where he was, and her calling me made me incredibly uncomfortable. I asked my boyfriend how she got my number — he swore he didn’t give it to her — and told him I didn’t want this kind of involvement to be part of our relationship. When he talked to her about it, she exploded, yelling, “If she were Jewish, she’d understand!” I wasn’t invited to the seders that his family held, despite my saying I had loved attending them with my friends. There were times at church that I saw couples worshiping together and felt pangs of jealousy. But I told myself every relationship had its problems and these were relatively minor.

     


    These issues weren’t there at first, but they started to appear after some time had passed and we were already in love. After years of dating, religion was suddenly a problem when it never had been before. I didn’t understand where it was coming from, and they weren’t able to explain it.
     

    Not being Jewish was not the official reason either of these relationships ended. There were other problems — money, careers and plans for the future — problems I wanted to at least try to work through. But when I tried to talk about them, somehow the fact that I wasn’t Jewish came up — even in conversations that had nothing to do with family or children. When I asked, “What does that have to do with this?” they didn’t — or couldn’t — answer and kept talking about Judaism.
     

    After we broke up, both men went on to find serious partners who were, in fact, Jewish. And while I try not to look back after a relationship ends, to go full-on Carrie Bradshaw, I couldn’t help but wonder if this was not just a coincidence but a pattern I should pay attention to. I didn’t doubt the love we’d had for each other, and I knew religion was one of the top reasons couples break up. But why did they say it didn’t matter and then decide it did — and find partners who fit the description they said they weren’t actually looking for?
     

    I guess dating me had been their last act of defiance against cultural or familial expectations before finding someone who warranted their parents’ approval — perhaps the equivalent of a woman dating a motorcycle-driving, leather-jacket wearing “bad boy” before settling down with a banker with a 9-5 job. I now half-jokingly consider myself a Jewish man’s rebellion and guard myself against again landing in that role.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2018/03/29/i-am-tired-of-being-a-jewish-mans-rebellion/?utm_term=.03df9e996ba5



    The reaction to her article has been most interesting.....

    'She Was Trying on a Culture': Why Jews Are Fuming at Washington Post Essay Lamenting Jewish Boyfriend
    The anger sparked by the article in which a WASP complains about two failed relationships with Jewish boyfriends shows that, in 2018, perceived anti-Semitism strikes a highly sensitive nerve
     

    As expected, there was a huge social media backlash – and more than one scathing satire piece – sneering comically at her millennial solipsism and the fact that in a world where intermarriage is rampant, she could be so blind to the fact that these guys were just not that into her. There were plenty of jokes to that end, and also many referring to the decision to publish the piece on Passover, picking on Jews at a time when they’re deprived of their favorite comfort cuisine.
     

    But the red-hot intensity and anger sparked by the essay was unique to 2018 – a time in which Jews are attuned to anti-Semitism at a higher level than they have been in decades.

    They have good reason. For two years, over the course of the Trump campaign and presidency, a newly empowered alt-right movement of white nationalists has relentlessly flooded social media with its racist, anti-Semitic bile. And following the Harvey Weinstein scandal and other #MeToo cases involving Jewish men, numerous memes depicted ugly, white supremacist stereotypes of Jewish men defiling, abusing and discarding innocent white, Christian women. Beyond the internet, young men marched chanting the Nazi slogan “Blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us!” in Charlottesville; an actual Nazi is the Republican nominee for an Illinois congressional seat; and there has been a spike in anti-Semitic attacks in the United States.
     

    She didn’t directly invoke the racist archetype of the opportunistic and lustful Jewish man preying on innocent “shiksas,” just as she didn’t overtly state that, unlike herself, Jewish women are rude, messy and don’t know how to mix martinis.
     

    But neither did the existence of such anti-Semitic imagery – and the charged atmosphere of the moment – stop her from writing an article that portrayed her as the hapless blond, Christian, disposable plaything of callous Jewish men.
     

    One imagines that she (and her editors at the Post) may have thought twice before publishing a rant implying her mistreatment at the hands of nonwhite ex-boyfriends and their black, Latino or Muslim families.

     

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-hitting-a-nerve-with-a-sledgehammer-1.5975152

    WRITER OF JEWISH DATING OP-ED IN WASHINGTON POST APOLOGIZES
    Casey Purcell’s essay on swearing off Jewish men sparks ire online.

     


    New York Times writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner wondered if “maybe these Jewish men aren’t leaving you because you’re not Jewish as much as they’re leaving you because you hate Jews?” And Helen Rosner, a writer for The New Yorker, tweeted that “it’s definitely not super racist and pathologically narcissistic to write an op-ed in a major newspaper about how you’re done dating people of one specific religion, no sirree bob.”

     

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Writer-of-Jewish-dating-op-ed-in-Washington-Post-apologizes-547830

    There is a lot there, but maybe she gets to the essence when she says that what those men did was “perhaps the equivalent of a woman dating a motorcycle-driving, leather-jacket wearing ‘bad boy’ before settling down with a banker with a 9-5 job.”

    That is what many women do. So her ex-boyfriends were just doing their particular equivalent of that.

    Men don’t have to be Jewish to do this, either. We typically have no problem sewing our wild oats among “hotties” during our bachelorhood that we would never marry. One could even say this is a typical WASP male thing!

    It is the essence of things, not the particulars that matter in this case, and it certainly is not wrong of her to describe her own, particular experiences.

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    We typically have no problem sewing our wild oats among “hotties” during our bachelorhood that we would never marry.
     
    Do they know this?
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  16. Very interesting comment. I knew something like that was going on even from casual inspection.

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  17. @syonredux
    So much fascinating stuff in this piece....


    I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion

    Over almost seven years and two serious relationships with Jewish men who at first said religion didn’t matter — and then backtracked and decided it did — I’ve optimistically begun interfaith relationships with an open mind twice, only to become the last woman these men dated before settling down with a nice Jewish girl.
     

    I can now say with certainty that I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion.
     

    At first glance, I fulfill the stereotypes of a white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP). I’m blond, often wear pearls and can mix an excellent, and very strong, martini. Manners and etiquette are important to me, and when I’m stressed, I often cope by cleaning. I do describe myself as Christian, but loosely and in the most liberal sense possible. I don’t discuss my faith the first time I meet someone or on first dates. But if I find myself falling for someone who does not share my spiritual views, I bring up the subject. If it’s going to be a problem, I want to know.

     


    That’s exactly what I did in my previous long-term relationships, both of which were with Jewish men. And both men said it wasn’t a problem that I was Christian, as they considered themselves culturally, but not spiritually, Jewish. At the very least, they were the most lackadaisical Jews I’d ever met. They never fasted on Yom Kippur or observed Jewish holidays on their own. And when they traveled to celebrate holidays with their families, they made it clear it was an obligation rather than a choice. On more than one occasion in conversation, we laughed about the fact that I knew more about the Jewish faith than they did.
     

    For the first few of the years I was dating these men, the fact that I was not Jewish rarely came up. My boyfriends helped decorate my Christmas trees, attended parties hosted by my friends from church, and their parents seemed to like me. I loved learning more about Judaism and sometimes even reminded them when certain holidays were approaching. When a spam email showed up in my account advertising a service to help me “Find Sincere Jewish Singles In Your Area!” I laughed and forwarded it to my boyfriend at the time, saying: “I think I’ve got that covered.”
     

    Sure, there were some tense moments in these relationships. One of their mothers was extremely overbearing, somehow getting my cellphone number and calling me, asking where her son was. I didn’t know where he was, and her calling me made me incredibly uncomfortable. I asked my boyfriend how she got my number — he swore he didn’t give it to her — and told him I didn’t want this kind of involvement to be part of our relationship. When he talked to her about it, she exploded, yelling, “If she were Jewish, she’d understand!” I wasn’t invited to the seders that his family held, despite my saying I had loved attending them with my friends. There were times at church that I saw couples worshiping together and felt pangs of jealousy. But I told myself every relationship had its problems and these were relatively minor.

     


    These issues weren’t there at first, but they started to appear after some time had passed and we were already in love. After years of dating, religion was suddenly a problem when it never had been before. I didn’t understand where it was coming from, and they weren’t able to explain it.
     

    Not being Jewish was not the official reason either of these relationships ended. There were other problems — money, careers and plans for the future — problems I wanted to at least try to work through. But when I tried to talk about them, somehow the fact that I wasn’t Jewish came up — even in conversations that had nothing to do with family or children. When I asked, “What does that have to do with this?” they didn’t — or couldn’t — answer and kept talking about Judaism.
     

    After we broke up, both men went on to find serious partners who were, in fact, Jewish. And while I try not to look back after a relationship ends, to go full-on Carrie Bradshaw, I couldn’t help but wonder if this was not just a coincidence but a pattern I should pay attention to. I didn’t doubt the love we’d had for each other, and I knew religion was one of the top reasons couples break up. But why did they say it didn’t matter and then decide it did — and find partners who fit the description they said they weren’t actually looking for?
     

    I guess dating me had been their last act of defiance against cultural or familial expectations before finding someone who warranted their parents’ approval — perhaps the equivalent of a woman dating a motorcycle-driving, leather-jacket wearing “bad boy” before settling down with a banker with a 9-5 job. I now half-jokingly consider myself a Jewish man’s rebellion and guard myself against again landing in that role.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2018/03/29/i-am-tired-of-being-a-jewish-mans-rebellion/?utm_term=.03df9e996ba5



    The reaction to her article has been most interesting.....

    'She Was Trying on a Culture': Why Jews Are Fuming at Washington Post Essay Lamenting Jewish Boyfriend
    The anger sparked by the article in which a WASP complains about two failed relationships with Jewish boyfriends shows that, in 2018, perceived anti-Semitism strikes a highly sensitive nerve
     

    As expected, there was a huge social media backlash – and more than one scathing satire piece – sneering comically at her millennial solipsism and the fact that in a world where intermarriage is rampant, she could be so blind to the fact that these guys were just not that into her. There were plenty of jokes to that end, and also many referring to the decision to publish the piece on Passover, picking on Jews at a time when they’re deprived of their favorite comfort cuisine.
     

    But the red-hot intensity and anger sparked by the essay was unique to 2018 – a time in which Jews are attuned to anti-Semitism at a higher level than they have been in decades.

    They have good reason. For two years, over the course of the Trump campaign and presidency, a newly empowered alt-right movement of white nationalists has relentlessly flooded social media with its racist, anti-Semitic bile. And following the Harvey Weinstein scandal and other #MeToo cases involving Jewish men, numerous memes depicted ugly, white supremacist stereotypes of Jewish men defiling, abusing and discarding innocent white, Christian women. Beyond the internet, young men marched chanting the Nazi slogan “Blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us!” in Charlottesville; an actual Nazi is the Republican nominee for an Illinois congressional seat; and there has been a spike in anti-Semitic attacks in the United States.
     

    She didn’t directly invoke the racist archetype of the opportunistic and lustful Jewish man preying on innocent “shiksas,” just as she didn’t overtly state that, unlike herself, Jewish women are rude, messy and don’t know how to mix martinis.
     

    But neither did the existence of such anti-Semitic imagery – and the charged atmosphere of the moment – stop her from writing an article that portrayed her as the hapless blond, Christian, disposable plaything of callous Jewish men.
     

    One imagines that she (and her editors at the Post) may have thought twice before publishing a rant implying her mistreatment at the hands of nonwhite ex-boyfriends and their black, Latino or Muslim families.

     

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-hitting-a-nerve-with-a-sledgehammer-1.5975152

    WRITER OF JEWISH DATING OP-ED IN WASHINGTON POST APOLOGIZES
    Casey Purcell’s essay on swearing off Jewish men sparks ire online.

     


    New York Times writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner wondered if “maybe these Jewish men aren’t leaving you because you’re not Jewish as much as they’re leaving you because you hate Jews?” And Helen Rosner, a writer for The New Yorker, tweeted that “it’s definitely not super racist and pathologically narcissistic to write an op-ed in a major newspaper about how you’re done dating people of one specific religion, no sirree bob.”

     

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Writer-of-Jewish-dating-op-ed-in-Washington-Post-apologizes-547830

    The responses from these bitter ladies to the broken-hearted shiksa’s story would lead one to draw his own “shrewish” conclusions even if he’d never before heard about any of those “shrewish” stereotypes.

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    Yeah, well, a lot of these Jewish women were doing exactly the same thing in their youth, getting their pieces of some goy boys before marrying Morty, which is the root cause for the shrewish Jewess.
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  18. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve noticed in Japan that sometimes you can weirdly guess what region someone is from. There is a subtle “family resemblance.” Remember, Japan is the size of California, and prefectures are the size of California counties.

    I think what is going on is that there is a lot of migration by young people into Tokyo and Osaka, but not anywhere as much movement in the other direction.

    Of course, it’s now reached the point that there are not a whole lot of children even being produced period.

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    Having read Fudoki, Kojiki and Nihon Shoki, mythologized history of Japan til 8th century, it's not that surprising. After all it's about the descendants of Sun Goddess Amaterarsu "descend from heaven," than subjugated the neighboring nations/tribes with slow expansions. The conquest of Ainu/Okinawans came relatively late. But one can still match some traits attributed to long assimilated people such as Emishi/Ebisu/Hayato, etc. to the inhabitants of modern correspondent locations until just about WWII. The war and its aftermath really scrambled the people within the empire.
    , @Erik Sieven
    Japan doesn't have an extremely low TFR by international standards
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  19. OT lab horror stories

    http://boards.4chan.org/sci/thread/9637752

    Featuring liquid nitrogen ingestion and shorts.

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  20. @Tiny Duck
    Watch out a big blue is coming to sweep you guys away for good!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/04/wisconsins-gop-governor-warns-blue-wave-as-liberal-wins-court-seat.html

    More progressive judges, more acknowledgment of white supremacy and privilege. Get ready for a level playing field and more tolerance.

    I know you guys don't like fairness but its coming whether you like it or not

    LISTEN to People of Color

    http://88cupsoftea.com/podcast/roshani-chokshi/

    Pay attention to how your behavior makes life hard for them

    4 Tiny Duck > LISTEN to People of Color

    Golani brigade will cut your dick off and use it to light the “necklace” tire we put on your head – if you enter here

    the Arabs enslaved you without effort. But they are donkeys compared to us

    The Rwandans will do the burial for us

    PS: this Attorney Tomer Warsha in Tel Aviv, appears to have a great track record in getting Green Cards for (desirable) foreigners. Telephone +972-3-561-5845, 972 is our country code

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  21. @BB
    My understanding is that most immigrants from China are from southern China. In other words, they're not sending their best?

    The historic Chinese diaspora in Southeast Asia and the US/West prior to the recent post 90′s immigration wave came almost exclusively from Guangdong and Fujian. To be even more specific, the majority actually originated from just two counties in Guangdong: Meixian and Chaozhou, and Changle in Fujian. The emigration patterns were both very specific and not very representative of the Han race. It would be akin to the “English” who settled in the US having all come from Wales and Cornwall and still speakers of Cornish. I think they are still probably over represented among recent immigrants, but no longer exclusive.

    They are an entrepreneurial people and quite clever but also quite insular and clannish, a given since the majority of them would have been closely related and coming from the same ancestral villages.

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  22. I have co-workers who are Chinese-American and Vietnamese-American and Chinese-Vietnamese. Many of whom are awesome and incredible at their jobs.

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    I’m sure that the Americans who didn’t get those jobs are delighted for you and them.
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  23. That would also explain why the Thai, also a short people, developed a martial art which relies on a lot of striking with elbows and shins. Not sure if it’s still the case, but in the early days of MMA, Muay Thai was considered to be the best of the striking martial arts to have in one’s repertoire; far superior to karate, tae kwan do, or Kung fu.

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  24. @syonredux
    So much fascinating stuff in this piece....


    I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion

    Over almost seven years and two serious relationships with Jewish men who at first said religion didn’t matter — and then backtracked and decided it did — I’ve optimistically begun interfaith relationships with an open mind twice, only to become the last woman these men dated before settling down with a nice Jewish girl.
     

    I can now say with certainty that I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion.
     

    At first glance, I fulfill the stereotypes of a white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP). I’m blond, often wear pearls and can mix an excellent, and very strong, martini. Manners and etiquette are important to me, and when I’m stressed, I often cope by cleaning. I do describe myself as Christian, but loosely and in the most liberal sense possible. I don’t discuss my faith the first time I meet someone or on first dates. But if I find myself falling for someone who does not share my spiritual views, I bring up the subject. If it’s going to be a problem, I want to know.

     


    That’s exactly what I did in my previous long-term relationships, both of which were with Jewish men. And both men said it wasn’t a problem that I was Christian, as they considered themselves culturally, but not spiritually, Jewish. At the very least, they were the most lackadaisical Jews I’d ever met. They never fasted on Yom Kippur or observed Jewish holidays on their own. And when they traveled to celebrate holidays with their families, they made it clear it was an obligation rather than a choice. On more than one occasion in conversation, we laughed about the fact that I knew more about the Jewish faith than they did.
     

    For the first few of the years I was dating these men, the fact that I was not Jewish rarely came up. My boyfriends helped decorate my Christmas trees, attended parties hosted by my friends from church, and their parents seemed to like me. I loved learning more about Judaism and sometimes even reminded them when certain holidays were approaching. When a spam email showed up in my account advertising a service to help me “Find Sincere Jewish Singles In Your Area!” I laughed and forwarded it to my boyfriend at the time, saying: “I think I’ve got that covered.”
     

    Sure, there were some tense moments in these relationships. One of their mothers was extremely overbearing, somehow getting my cellphone number and calling me, asking where her son was. I didn’t know where he was, and her calling me made me incredibly uncomfortable. I asked my boyfriend how she got my number — he swore he didn’t give it to her — and told him I didn’t want this kind of involvement to be part of our relationship. When he talked to her about it, she exploded, yelling, “If she were Jewish, she’d understand!” I wasn’t invited to the seders that his family held, despite my saying I had loved attending them with my friends. There were times at church that I saw couples worshiping together and felt pangs of jealousy. But I told myself every relationship had its problems and these were relatively minor.

     


    These issues weren’t there at first, but they started to appear after some time had passed and we were already in love. After years of dating, religion was suddenly a problem when it never had been before. I didn’t understand where it was coming from, and they weren’t able to explain it.
     

    Not being Jewish was not the official reason either of these relationships ended. There were other problems — money, careers and plans for the future — problems I wanted to at least try to work through. But when I tried to talk about them, somehow the fact that I wasn’t Jewish came up — even in conversations that had nothing to do with family or children. When I asked, “What does that have to do with this?” they didn’t — or couldn’t — answer and kept talking about Judaism.
     

    After we broke up, both men went on to find serious partners who were, in fact, Jewish. And while I try not to look back after a relationship ends, to go full-on Carrie Bradshaw, I couldn’t help but wonder if this was not just a coincidence but a pattern I should pay attention to. I didn’t doubt the love we’d had for each other, and I knew religion was one of the top reasons couples break up. But why did they say it didn’t matter and then decide it did — and find partners who fit the description they said they weren’t actually looking for?
     

    I guess dating me had been their last act of defiance against cultural or familial expectations before finding someone who warranted their parents’ approval — perhaps the equivalent of a woman dating a motorcycle-driving, leather-jacket wearing “bad boy” before settling down with a banker with a 9-5 job. I now half-jokingly consider myself a Jewish man’s rebellion and guard myself against again landing in that role.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2018/03/29/i-am-tired-of-being-a-jewish-mans-rebellion/?utm_term=.03df9e996ba5



    The reaction to her article has been most interesting.....

    'She Was Trying on a Culture': Why Jews Are Fuming at Washington Post Essay Lamenting Jewish Boyfriend
    The anger sparked by the article in which a WASP complains about two failed relationships with Jewish boyfriends shows that, in 2018, perceived anti-Semitism strikes a highly sensitive nerve
     

    As expected, there was a huge social media backlash – and more than one scathing satire piece – sneering comically at her millennial solipsism and the fact that in a world where intermarriage is rampant, she could be so blind to the fact that these guys were just not that into her. There were plenty of jokes to that end, and also many referring to the decision to publish the piece on Passover, picking on Jews at a time when they’re deprived of their favorite comfort cuisine.
     

    But the red-hot intensity and anger sparked by the essay was unique to 2018 – a time in which Jews are attuned to anti-Semitism at a higher level than they have been in decades.

    They have good reason. For two years, over the course of the Trump campaign and presidency, a newly empowered alt-right movement of white nationalists has relentlessly flooded social media with its racist, anti-Semitic bile. And following the Harvey Weinstein scandal and other #MeToo cases involving Jewish men, numerous memes depicted ugly, white supremacist stereotypes of Jewish men defiling, abusing and discarding innocent white, Christian women. Beyond the internet, young men marched chanting the Nazi slogan “Blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us!” in Charlottesville; an actual Nazi is the Republican nominee for an Illinois congressional seat; and there has been a spike in anti-Semitic attacks in the United States.
     

    She didn’t directly invoke the racist archetype of the opportunistic and lustful Jewish man preying on innocent “shiksas,” just as she didn’t overtly state that, unlike herself, Jewish women are rude, messy and don’t know how to mix martinis.
     

    But neither did the existence of such anti-Semitic imagery – and the charged atmosphere of the moment – stop her from writing an article that portrayed her as the hapless blond, Christian, disposable plaything of callous Jewish men.
     

    One imagines that she (and her editors at the Post) may have thought twice before publishing a rant implying her mistreatment at the hands of nonwhite ex-boyfriends and their black, Latino or Muslim families.

     

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-hitting-a-nerve-with-a-sledgehammer-1.5975152

    WRITER OF JEWISH DATING OP-ED IN WASHINGTON POST APOLOGIZES
    Casey Purcell’s essay on swearing off Jewish men sparks ire online.

     


    New York Times writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner wondered if “maybe these Jewish men aren’t leaving you because you’re not Jewish as much as they’re leaving you because you hate Jews?” And Helen Rosner, a writer for The New Yorker, tweeted that “it’s definitely not super racist and pathologically narcissistic to write an op-ed in a major newspaper about how you’re done dating people of one specific religion, no sirree bob.”

     

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Writer-of-Jewish-dating-op-ed-in-Washington-Post-apologizes-547830

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2017/11/02/is-he-interested-in-me-or-does-he-just-want-hamilton-tickets/?utm_term=.b9c6eecceea5

    I would love to meet a man who enjoys seeing theater and would appreciate all of the dates we’d go on together — not just “Hamilton.” One of the musical’s most famous lyrics states: “I am not throwing away my shot.” I wish these men would realize that when they ask if I can get them tickets, they have already thrown away theirs.

    Just 5 months ago she was complaining about men trying to date her for her access to “Hamilton” tickets. At some point, if no men are interested in her for her own sake, wether is to rebel against their upbringing, or to score hot Broadway tickets, etc.? Maybe there were one common denominator, her.

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    Just 5 months ago she was complaining about men trying to date her for her access to “Hamilton” tickets. At some point, if no men are interested in her for her own sake, wether is to rebel against their upbringing, or to score hot Broadway tickets, etc.? Maybe there were one common denominator?

    Yeah, she need to learn how to recognize homos.
    , @Anon
    So Washington Poop, one of the allegedly premier newspapers of the world regularly publishes this woman’s stories of her dating experiences,

    Why isn’t she writing for glamour and cosmopolitan, 2 magazines aimed at 18 to 35 year old heteronormative unmarried women with jobs or in college, not single moms on welfare who are out in the dating world?


    Those and other magazines would be more appropriate for these stories of a moderate income youngish single woman’s love life.

    Maybe cosmo and glamour should start publishing “ intellectual” articles by Jewish Harvard poli sci PHDs advocating bombing the entire Middle East from Morocco to Iran to pieces so God’s Chosen can walk in and take over with a few trillion dollars and euros extorted from the goyim.

    Anyway who under the age of 70 reads newspapers except to see what the enemy is up to as Ron Unz and Steve do?
    , @Anon
    I’m beginning to wonder if this woman actually dates or does things with men at all. I and my friends dated a lot, so do my single daughters and their friends. It’s almost always a mutual thing. Most people first talk about and agree on something to do.

    For instance, I don’t go to a good friends weirdo intellectual plays end even worse modernistic weirdo operas and she doesn’t go to country western concerts with me.

    Anyone agree with me on this? Does she or does she not really date? Or as most lifestyle reporters do, just make it all up?.
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  25. @J.Ross
    Ah yes, "Guangdong dogs," and relevant to our immigration history because our early Chinese immigrants were almost exclusively from the bottom of society of the least-liked province. Sometimes Chinese explain American disapproval of a Chinese action in terms of us taking Newfies for Canucks. Libertarian Reason magazine had a cover story about the Guangdong free enterprise spirit (the mountains are tall and the emperor is far away), which is seen by other Chinese as unscrupulousness.

    OT In order that Germany be less like Nazi Germany, the state shall take your children.
    https://www.thelocal.de/20180404/police-union-calls-for-children-to-be-taken-away-from-anti-semitic-parents

    >The head of Germany’s second largest police union has responded to recent reports of anti-Semitism in the schoolyard by saying that authorities should be allowed to take children away from anti-Semitic parents.

    >“Authorities need to act decisively [against anti-Semitism] including when the aggression comes from migrants,” Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union (DPolG) told the Augsburger Allgemeine on Wednesday.

    >“If children are raised to become anti-Semites we shouldn’t be afraid to take them away from their families,” he added.

    What’s Herr Wendt’s stance on taking children away from anti-Germanic parents?

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    That's an excellent question that of course he'll never be called upon to answer.

    To learn who rules over you, simply figure out who gets to ask awkward questions of whom.
    , @J.Ross
    He would probably say that there is no such thing.
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  26. OT: This guy shows up everywhere:

    1986 CIA Document Analyzes Possibilities Of “Regime Change” In Syria

    Documents contained in the U.S. National Archives and drawn up by the CIA reveal a plan to destroy the Syrian government going back decades. One such document entitled, “Bringing Real Muscle To Bear In Syria,” written by CIA officer Graham Fuller, is particularly illuminating.

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    Syria problem: The 2nd biggest oil field of the world, is between Syria and Iraq. Kurds have been on top of this land for centuries. Ergo: fighting and death....chatter...symposiums...chatter...UN....chatter/UN officials want their hotels and resorts to be paid for.......chatter...bar tab to be paid by American taxpayers...chatter - that is what has been going on for 35 years.

    Biggest oil: Russian Steppes. So, yeah, the big bankers of the world are getting exposed for their heinousness and depravity. Meanwhile, good people don't know how to react if a serious bomb were to be deployed. Haha, I know exactly, what the next move should be...should be.

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  27. I’m involved with two Asian women at the moment.

    The Korean is 5’10. Her grandfather was a refugee from the North during the war, settling near Seoul.

    The Chinese girl is 5’6″ and from Manchuria, three hours east of Beijing.

    Neither is shrewish.

    Just two data points that support Steve’s observations.

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    I am involved with three women right now. I won't clutter up these comments with details. Just wanted y'all to know.
    , @Twinkie

    I’m involved with two... women at the moment.
     
    Information such as this used to be a source of shame, not something to be bandied about in public.
    , @J.Ross
    Are you six foot five?
    , @danand

    at the moment
     
    Which one of you is doing the typing?
    , @L Woods
    Never let an opportunity for humblebrag go to waste.
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  28. @Buzz Mohawk

    Northern - beauties - are tall and fair...

    Jiangnan - cuties - are feminine and cultured...

    Sichuan - hotties - are extra “spicy”...

    Guangdong women are - shrewish - unpleasant and demanding.

     

    Beauties, cuties, hotties, and shrews.

    So, China has all the same types of women that America does. Maybe the types are universal.

    Beauties, cuties, hotties, and shrews.

    So, China has all the same types of women that America does. Maybe the types are universal.

    You know the Chinese are people, too, right?

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    Will they see us as people when they're ruling us? Or will Beijing treat us like they currently treat Chinese?
    I haven't seen this brought up yet, the hierarchy I have seen is
    "She is beautiful."
    "She is cute."
    "She is an excellent calligrapher." (= she is cultured)
    "She is a good Communist."
    , @Truth
    Yeah. But the Koreans are GODS!

    According to you anyway.
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  29. @Buzz Mohawk
    There is a lot there, but maybe she gets to the essence when she says that what those men did was "perhaps the equivalent of a woman dating a motorcycle-driving, leather-jacket wearing 'bad boy' before settling down with a banker with a 9-5 job."

    That is what many women do. So her ex-boyfriends were just doing their particular equivalent of that.

    Men don't have to be Jewish to do this, either. We typically have no problem sewing our wild oats among "hotties" during our bachelorhood that we would never marry. One could even say this is a typical WASP male thing!

    It is the essence of things, not the particulars that matter in this case, and it certainly is not wrong of her to describe her own, particular experiences.

    We typically have no problem sewing our wild oats among “hotties” during our bachelorhood that we would never marry.

    Do they know this?

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    Do they care? They too are happy having a few relationships that last a few months with people they probably won't stay longer with.

    Calling them "hotties" was a mistake. Basically you're just dating women you enjoy. Eventually you probably will meet the one you'll marry, but you don't treat every one like that's what you are looking for. They are under no illusions, because they are taking the same approach.
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  30. @Whitehall
    I'm involved with two Asian women at the moment.

    The Korean is 5'10. Her grandfather was a refugee from the North during the war, settling near Seoul.

    The Chinese girl is 5'6" and from Manchuria, three hours east of Beijing.

    Neither is shrewish.

    Just two data points that support Steve's observations.

    I am involved with three women right now. I won’t clutter up these comments with details. Just wanted y’all to know.

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    Details for Greasy Williams, please.
    , @anonymous coward

    I am involved with three women right now.
     
    Mom, grandmom and tax inspector?
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  31. @AndrewR
    What's Herr Wendt's stance on taking children away from anti-Germanic parents?

    That’s an excellent question that of course he’ll never be called upon to answer.

    To learn who rules over you, simply figure out who gets to ask awkward questions of whom.

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  32. https://www.imdb.com/search/name?birth_place=Guangdong,%20China&sort=birth_date,desc&ref_=rlm

    https://www.imdb.com/search/name?birth_place=fujian,%20China&sort=birth_date,desc&ref_=rlm

    It would hard to comment on without looking at the dataset. A quick search on IMDB for birth place and sort by birth date give some data accessible to US English speaker.

    A quick glance showed a few faces/names I recognized. Jacky Cai in this year’s “Operation Red Sea.” Her role is minor, but that’s inline with the genre, jingoistic military action movie. There were a handful others actresses that’s doing OK. But that’s from birth place, not “family registration location,” those information are hard to find in English. And since it’s patriarchal, it’s hard to capture the movement/mixing of the 20th century.

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    IMDB is not a good place to search because it is incomplete to the point of being useless. The few actresses listed that were of Guangdong or Fujian ancestry in major movies on that list are all children, 8-9 year olds. The remaining women are basically D-list unknowns asides from Yao Chen who is admittedly pretty famous, but recently hounded off the Chinese internet for pro-sjw social media comments. What I basically did was follow the more popular TV shows by the equivalent of Chinese Nielsen Ratings and the lead/supporting actresses and look up their birth places from there. Not sure if there is a Good English source for this.
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  33. @AndrewR
    What's Herr Wendt's stance on taking children away from anti-Germanic parents?

    He would probably say that there is no such thing.

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  34. I suspect it is the sinitic ancestry component that drives selection for height among East Asian populations. The South Koreans are the tallest for now in the far east but they have stopped growing.

    This is wishful thinking from “Duke of Qin” who, judging from his other comments, seems to loathe both Koreans (“bangzi” as he once wrote) and northern Asians of steppe ancestry. He just can’t stand that they might be genetically more predisposed to greater height than his beloved Han Chinese.

    Their population structure is basically 50/50 split between ancestral Northeastern hunter gatherer and the Sinitic component. The Japanese are basically 85/10/5 for northeastern hunter gatherer, sinitic, and south-central China Tai-Kadai ancestry and are on average 3 centimeters shorter than the South Koreans.

    First of all, Koreans and Japanese are HIGHLY related – more so than either is with the Chinese. Also, Koreans are not 50/50 H-G and “Sinitic” component. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans#Genetic_studies

    The study said that the affinity of Koreans is predominately Southeast Asian with an estimated admixture of 79% Southeast Asian and 21% Northeast Asian for Koreans, but the study said that this does not mean that Koreans are heterogenous, because all of the Koreans which were analyzed uniformly displayed a dual pattern of Northeast Asian and Southeast Asian origins. The study said that Koreans and Japanese displayed no observable difference between each other in their proportion of Southeast Asian and Northeast Asian admixture. The study said the 79% Southeast Asian and 21% Northeast Asian admixture estimate for Koreans is consistent with the interpretation of Jin et al. (2009) that Koreans descend from a Northeast Asian population which was subsequently followed by a male-centric migration from the southern region of Asia which changed both the autosomal composition and Y-chromosomes in the Korean population.[39]

    As for this:

    The ancient northeastern hunter gatherer seems to select for short and stocky like the Mongolians and other current Siberian populations.

    Sure, when you compare them today with the better fed modern “settled” East Asians, but in the past pastoral northern “barbarians” were taller and more robust than agricultural East Asians living in the Malthusian existence of high density, intensive agriculture… just as in western Eurasia. It’s not rocket science – people who tend animals and eat them and don’t do backbreaking labor are going to be taller than those eating a low protein diet and being at the edge of starvation constantly.

    The North Koreans, before the division were taller than the South Koreans and their ancestry is almost certainly even more shifted towards to the sinitic component than their Southern counterparts.

    Northern Koreans are more shifted toward the Manchus than they are to the Chinese, and in any case Koreans are quite homogenous and there is comparatively little genetic structure. Moreover, during the Japanese rule, northern part of Korea was more industrialized and developed by the Japanese colonial government and enjoyed higher living (and education) standards than in the agricultural South outside of Seoul. That likely accounted for almost all the difference in height among Koreans (just as today, South Koreans are far better fed and are much taller than northerners).

    The Chinese of the North China plain are now only slightly shorter than the South Koreans and more importantly, still growing.

    Of course, northern Han people are more shifted toward northern “barbarians” than the southern Han. But in that case, Duke of Qin would have to acknowledge that his hated non-Chinese barbarians might be responsible for such a positive trait among his beloved Han people.

    The Chinese ALREADY consume more meat per capita than South Koreans do, yet are still shorter, so his hopes for taller Chinese may yet be dashed.

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  35. @Twinkie

    Beauties, cuties, hotties, and shrews.

    So, China has all the same types of women that America does. Maybe the types are universal.
     
    You know the Chinese are people, too, right?

    Will they see us as people when they’re ruling us? Or will Beijing treat us like they currently treat Chinese?
    I haven’t seen this brought up yet, the hierarchy I have seen is
    “She is beautiful.”
    “She is cute.”
    “She is an excellent calligrapher.” (= she is cultured)
    “She is a good Communist.”

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    Will they see us as people when they’re ruling us?
     
    1) Ain't happenin' while I am alive.

    2) They don't seem too keen on imperialism.

    3) I wish we hadn't sold them our industrial base for their help (?) against the Soviets.

    4) If we are lucky, they might become a bit too preoccupied with "splittism" in the near future.
    , @Anonym
    I haven’t seen this brought up yet, the hierarchy I have seen is
    “She is beautiful.”
    “She is cute.”
    “She is an excellent calligrapher.” (= she is cultured)
    “She is a good Communist.”


    Where does "She has a great sense of humor" or "She has a great personality" fit in the hierarchy?
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  36. @Anon
    I've noticed in Japan that sometimes you can weirdly guess what region someone is from. There is a subtle "family resemblance." Remember, Japan is the size of California, and prefectures are the size of California counties.

    I think what is going on is that there is a lot of migration by young people into Tokyo and Osaka, but not anywhere as much movement in the other direction.

    Of course, it's now reached the point that there are not a whole lot of children even being produced period.

    Having read Fudoki, Kojiki and Nihon Shoki, mythologized history of Japan til 8th century, it’s not that surprising. After all it’s about the descendants of Sun Goddess Amaterarsu “descend from heaven,” than subjugated the neighboring nations/tribes with slow expansions. The conquest of Ainu/Okinawans came relatively late. But one can still match some traits attributed to long assimilated people such as Emishi/Ebisu/Hayato, etc. to the inhabitants of modern correspondent locations until just about WWII. The war and its aftermath really scrambled the people within the empire.

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  37. @Little spoon
    Wut?

    To me, all look same.

    In the way I can’t decipher tonality in Vietnamese, I also can’t decipher the nuances in how Chinese peoples look different. But I guess actresses have to be filtered based on something.

    Indeed. This post needs pictures.

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  38. @1661er
    https://www.imdb.com/search/name?birth_place=Guangdong,%20China&sort=birth_date,desc&ref_=rlm

    https://www.imdb.com/search/name?birth_place=fujian,%20China&sort=birth_date,desc&ref_=rlm

    It would hard to comment on without looking at the dataset. A quick search on IMDB for birth place and sort by birth date give some data accessible to US English speaker.

    A quick glance showed a few faces/names I recognized. Jacky Cai in this year's "Operation Red Sea." Her role is minor, but that's inline with the genre, jingoistic military action movie. There were a handful others actresses that's doing OK. But that's from birth place, not "family registration location," those information are hard to find in English. And since it's patriarchal, it's hard to capture the movement/mixing of the 20th century.

    IMDB is not a good place to search because it is incomplete to the point of being useless. The few actresses listed that were of Guangdong or Fujian ancestry in major movies on that list are all children, 8-9 year olds. The remaining women are basically D-list unknowns asides from Yao Chen who is admittedly pretty famous, but recently hounded off the Chinese internet for pro-sjw social media comments. What I basically did was follow the more popular TV shows by the equivalent of Chinese Nielsen Ratings and the lead/supporting actresses and look up their birth places from there. Not sure if there is a Good English source for this.

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    Well, just Yao Chen is an improvement over:

    I couldn’t find one of Guangdong or Fujian ancestry.
     
    And how correlated are the birth place with ancestry for the age cohort we are talking about here? Especially for the class/strata of people under discussion. There were members from a branch of my family born in Manchuria and Shanghai back in the 1920-30s,(their parents attached themselves to someone in Count Goto Shimpei's inner circle, and did well in Southern Manchurian Railway) but are considered Fujian ancestry/Family Registration*.

    One example others would be more familiar to most on this board would be Yao Ming, who is born in Shanghai, but family registration would be Jiangsu. Yao Ming was born in Shanghai because that's where the top basketball playing jobs in China were in his birth year.

    It's not that hard to find out where famous public figure's patriarchal family registration is in Chinese sources, but to compile that for large set of people can be tedious. I am not invest enough about this to trying to verify/deny this hypothesis. I like what I like, and don't need popularity to validate my tastes.


    *(The family legend about Dutch ancestry could not be verified by DNA test, but we did find genetic marker for the Aborigines, when my nephews were born, so we are Pacific Islanders for US affirmative action purpose. So I take the family legend, "The first generation kick out his Dutch future father-in-law, got a land grant, married a half-dutch/half-aborigines wife, the family lives happily ever after until the evil land reform of 1952 ... with a large grain of salt.)
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  39. @Whitehall
    I'm involved with two Asian women at the moment.

    The Korean is 5'10. Her grandfather was a refugee from the North during the war, settling near Seoul.

    The Chinese girl is 5'6" and from Manchuria, three hours east of Beijing.

    Neither is shrewish.

    Just two data points that support Steve's observations.

    I’m involved with two… women at the moment.

    Information such as this used to be a source of shame, not something to be bandied about in public.

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    Information such as this used to be a source of shame
     
    Not everywhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concubinage#Korea
    , @J.Ross
    https://m.imgur.com/gallery/B2CdyIg
    , @Truth
    Oh come on Old Sport. The legend is that on page 112 of he Samguk Yusa, bottom left corner, the archaic character indicates that Buyeyo, as scandalous as it may seem, might have actually bragged upon his dick.
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  40. The Chinese in London all seem to come from Hong Kong

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    This is sad in a way.
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  41. @J.Ross
    Will they see us as people when they're ruling us? Or will Beijing treat us like they currently treat Chinese?
    I haven't seen this brought up yet, the hierarchy I have seen is
    "She is beautiful."
    "She is cute."
    "She is an excellent calligrapher." (= she is cultured)
    "She is a good Communist."

    Will they see us as people when they’re ruling us?

    1) Ain’t happenin’ while I am alive.

    2) They don’t seem too keen on imperialism.

    3) I wish we hadn’t sold them our industrial base for their help (?) against the Soviets.

    4) If we are lucky, they might become a bit too preoccupied with “splittism” in the near future.

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  42. full of vulgar but energetic movie producers from Guangdong with names like Harb Won-ton

    “So you want to be in picture? I am Boss Dugong from Guangdong.”

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  43. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Aren't most of the Jewish actresses halfsies? Meaning, less Mayim Bialik and more Scarlett Johanssen? That's a big difference to those energetic, vulgar producers.

    Most of the Jewish male actors and probably at this point even most of the directors and producers are halfsies. Still, plenty of actresses are 100% Jewish, like Natalie Portman (who was born in Jerusalem).

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    Portman does kind of resemble the Wonder Woman actress, now that I think about it.
    , @Truth

    Most of the Jewish male actors are halfsies. Still, plenty of actresses are 100% Jewish, like Natalie Portman
     
    A distinction without a difference.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkN54XeyVxo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OrTaiUkakI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wrKBllmu5s
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  44. @Rosie

    We typically have no problem sewing our wild oats among “hotties” during our bachelorhood that we would never marry.
     
    Do they know this?

    Do they care? They too are happy having a few relationships that last a few months with people they probably won’t stay longer with.

    Calling them “hotties” was a mistake. Basically you’re just dating women you enjoy. Eventually you probably will meet the one you’ll marry, but you don’t treat every one like that’s what you are looking for. They are under no illusions, because they are taking the same approach.

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  45. @jim jones
    The Chinese in London all seem to come from Hong Kong

    This is sad in a way.

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  46. @Whitehall
    I'm involved with two Asian women at the moment.

    The Korean is 5'10. Her grandfather was a refugee from the North during the war, settling near Seoul.

    The Chinese girl is 5'6" and from Manchuria, three hours east of Beijing.

    Neither is shrewish.

    Just two data points that support Steve's observations.

    Are you six foot five?

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    Six foot one inch

    for The Korean to wear high heels, I have boots with bg heels and I add pads so my eyes are just above hers.

    important to her to know I'm taller

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  47. @Twinkie

    I’m involved with two... women at the moment.
     
    Information such as this used to be a source of shame, not something to be bandied about in public.

    Information such as this used to be a source of shame

    Not everywhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concubinage#Korea

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    Seems like everywhere from that link - just not all of time.
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  48. @Mr. Anon
    OT: This guy shows up everywhere:

    1986 CIA Document Analyzes Possibilities Of "Regime Change" In Syria

    Documents contained in the U.S. National Archives and drawn up by the CIA reveal a plan to destroy the Syrian government going back decades. One such document entitled, “Bringing Real Muscle To Bear In Syria,” written by CIA officer Graham Fuller, is particularly illuminating.
     

    Syria problem: The 2nd biggest oil field of the world, is between Syria and Iraq. Kurds have been on top of this land for centuries. Ergo: fighting and death….chatter…symposiums…chatter…UN….chatter/UN officials want their hotels and resorts to be paid for…….chatter…bar tab to be paid by American taxpayers…chatter – that is what has been going on for 35 years.

    Biggest oil: Russian Steppes. So, yeah, the big bankers of the world are getting exposed for their heinousness and depravity. Meanwhile, good people don’t know how to react if a serious bomb were to be deployed. Haha, I know exactly, what the next move should be…should be.

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  49. @wren
    North vs. South

    https://youtu.be/LbiIu_EzuWk

    Watch out Hollywood!

    Thumbs up.

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  50. @Whitehall
    I'm involved with two Asian women at the moment.

    The Korean is 5'10. Her grandfather was a refugee from the North during the war, settling near Seoul.

    The Chinese girl is 5'6" and from Manchuria, three hours east of Beijing.

    Neither is shrewish.

    Just two data points that support Steve's observations.

    at the moment

    Which one of you is doing the typing?

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  51. @Duke of Qin
    IMDB is not a good place to search because it is incomplete to the point of being useless. The few actresses listed that were of Guangdong or Fujian ancestry in major movies on that list are all children, 8-9 year olds. The remaining women are basically D-list unknowns asides from Yao Chen who is admittedly pretty famous, but recently hounded off the Chinese internet for pro-sjw social media comments. What I basically did was follow the more popular TV shows by the equivalent of Chinese Nielsen Ratings and the lead/supporting actresses and look up their birth places from there. Not sure if there is a Good English source for this.

    Well, just Yao Chen is an improvement over:

    I couldn’t find one of Guangdong or Fujian ancestry.

    And how correlated are the birth place with ancestry for the age cohort we are talking about here? Especially for the class/strata of people under discussion. There were members from a branch of my family born in Manchuria and Shanghai back in the 1920-30s,(their parents attached themselves to someone in Count Goto Shimpei’s inner circle, and did well in Southern Manchurian Railway) but are considered Fujian ancestry/Family Registration*.

    One example others would be more familiar to most on this board would be Yao Ming, who is born in Shanghai, but family registration would be Jiangsu. Yao Ming was born in Shanghai because that’s where the top basketball playing jobs in China were in his birth year.

    It’s not that hard to find out where famous public figure’s patriarchal family registration is in Chinese sources, but to compile that for large set of people can be tedious. I am not invest enough about this to trying to verify/deny this hypothesis. I like what I like, and don’t need popularity to validate my tastes.

    *(The family legend about Dutch ancestry could not be verified by DNA test, but we did find genetic marker for the Aborigines, when my nephews were born, so we are Pacific Islanders for US affirmative action purpose. So I take the family legend, “The first generation kick out his Dutch future father-in-law, got a land grant, married a half-dutch/half-aborigines wife, the family lives happily ever after until the evil land reform of 1952 … with a large grain of salt.)

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  52. OT Steve, there is a fascinating article in today’s NY Times,
    “Why is New York Condoning Illiteracy?” by Shulem Deen.
    It mentions high birth rates among New York’s Hasidic
    Jews who increasingly rely on welfare to make ends
    meet. The boys are subjected to many years of Torah study
    at yeshiva schools where the language of instruction is
    Yiddish or Hebrew. As a result, at 18 they can barely speak
    English, and don’t even know what a molecule is because the
    secular subjects are rarely included in the yeshiva curriculum.
    The girls are not required to study Torah or Talmud so end
    up more fluent in English and acquire more knowledge
    of the modern world.

    As I keep pointing out, the history of Jews in Europe is largely
    the history of Jews in Poland, for that’s where they ended up
    after being expelled from Western Europe (and barred from
    Russia). The Polish Jews who lived in the vast Polish-Lithuanian
    Commonwealth (Polish cultural sphere in terms of language
    and religion) for centuries, basically formed a country
    within a country with their own Yeshiva school system where the
    instruction was in Yiddish. Poland tolerated this even though
    the Jews ended up with minimum Polish language skills. This kind
    of life continued until 1939, for Polish Jews were heavily Orthodox and
    Hasidic. Even in the 1930s the Jews stayed expelled. There were minuscule
    numbers of Jews in Germany (0.8%) and in the Soviet Union (under 1%)
    whereas Poland was 10% Jewish.

    It appears that the Hasidic Jews in New York have simply reproduced
    the way of life they remembered from living for centuries in the old
    Commonwealth (which in the 19th century still existed as the Polish
    cultural sphere, and was roughly coincident with the Pale of Settlement
    plus central Poland).

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    As a followup to my post, to understand Poland before WW II
    (10% Jewish) imagine the United States with 32 million Jews
    (instead of the current 5-6 million). How would it be different?
    Somebody should write a book about it!
    , @Anonymous
    "As I keep pointing out, the history of Jews in Europe is largely
    the history of Jews in Poland, for that’s where they ended up
    after being expelled from Western Europe (and barred from
    Russia)."

    OK. You may be drawing attention to an interesting and perhaps crucial aspect of European history. I suspect that you are. But what you are overtly saying strikes me as simply not true. It isn't true. There are tons of highly influential European Jews who are not Polish Jews. So far as I grasp things, the vast majority of influential European Jews were not Polish Jews. And actual influence matters in history.

    (For what it's worth, from my reading, Jews had a better chance of surviving Hitler in Berlin than in Warsaw...)
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  53. @Twinkie

    I’m involved with two... women at the moment.
     
    Information such as this used to be a source of shame, not something to be bandied about in public.
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  54. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:
    From Instapundit via Ace of Spades, Lindsay Shepherd (of the Wilfred Laurier/Jordan Peterson affair) renounces leftism. The video is several minutes long and quite interesting and honest:

    Apparently her recording of her inquisition is online, and it is horrific. I stopped when she starts crying. This is how totalitarianism works:

    These people are evil. I think that all who reject them must work together, no matter how many differences there may be.

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  55. Does the presence of the Hakka people/genes in southern China (Fujian, Canton and overseas Chinese diaspora) have any impact on the variations in appearance among the Chinese populace?

    I believe that many Hong Kong actresses have high profiles in the Hong Kong movie industry which, though no longer dominant, is still successful in mainland China. Are not Hong Kong Chinese basically the same as Guandong Chinese, i.e., Cantonese?

    My observation is that ethnic Chinese in peninsula Malaysia are unusually tall.

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    In the le Carre novel The Honourable Schoolboy, a character opines that Hakka women are in demand as brides, "being beautiful, frugal and lecherous".
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  56. @snorlax

    Information such as this used to be a source of shame
     
    Not everywhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concubinage#Korea

    Seems like everywhere from that link – just not all of time.

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    Went out with togas some places, telegrams others.
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  57. @Anon 2
    OT Steve, there is a fascinating article in today's NY Times,
    "Why is New York Condoning Illiteracy?" by Shulem Deen.
    It mentions high birth rates among New York's Hasidic
    Jews who increasingly rely on welfare to make ends
    meet. The boys are subjected to many years of Torah study
    at yeshiva schools where the language of instruction is
    Yiddish or Hebrew. As a result, at 18 they can barely speak
    English, and don't even know what a molecule is because the
    secular subjects are rarely included in the yeshiva curriculum.
    The girls are not required to study Torah or Talmud so end
    up more fluent in English and acquire more knowledge
    of the modern world.

    As I keep pointing out, the history of Jews in Europe is largely
    the history of Jews in Poland, for that's where they ended up
    after being expelled from Western Europe (and barred from
    Russia). The Polish Jews who lived in the vast Polish-Lithuanian
    Commonwealth (Polish cultural sphere in terms of language
    and religion) for centuries, basically formed a country
    within a country with their own Yeshiva school system where the
    instruction was in Yiddish. Poland tolerated this even though
    the Jews ended up with minimum Polish language skills. This kind
    of life continued until 1939, for Polish Jews were heavily Orthodox and
    Hasidic. Even in the 1930s the Jews stayed expelled. There were minuscule
    numbers of Jews in Germany (0.8%) and in the Soviet Union (under 1%)
    whereas Poland was 10% Jewish.

    It appears that the Hasidic Jews in New York have simply reproduced
    the way of life they remembered from living for centuries in the old
    Commonwealth (which in the 19th century still existed as the Polish
    cultural sphere, and was roughly coincident with the Pale of Settlement
    plus central Poland).

    As a followup to my post, to understand Poland before WW II
    (10% Jewish) imagine the United States with 32 million Jews
    (instead of the current 5-6 million). How would it be different?
    Somebody should write a book about it!

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  58. @Anon
    I've noticed in Japan that sometimes you can weirdly guess what region someone is from. There is a subtle "family resemblance." Remember, Japan is the size of California, and prefectures are the size of California counties.

    I think what is going on is that there is a lot of migration by young people into Tokyo and Osaka, but not anywhere as much movement in the other direction.

    Of course, it's now reached the point that there are not a whole lot of children even being produced period.

    Japan doesn’t have an extremely low TFR by international standards

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    Meaningless statement. “Japanese people are and will be drastically dwindling in number, but many other peoples are dying out too, so by International standards they’re okay.” No.
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  59. @J.Ross
    Ah yes, "Guangdong dogs," and relevant to our immigration history because our early Chinese immigrants were almost exclusively from the bottom of society of the least-liked province. Sometimes Chinese explain American disapproval of a Chinese action in terms of us taking Newfies for Canucks. Libertarian Reason magazine had a cover story about the Guangdong free enterprise spirit (the mountains are tall and the emperor is far away), which is seen by other Chinese as unscrupulousness.

    OT In order that Germany be less like Nazi Germany, the state shall take your children.
    https://www.thelocal.de/20180404/police-union-calls-for-children-to-be-taken-away-from-anti-semitic-parents

    >The head of Germany’s second largest police union has responded to recent reports of anti-Semitism in the schoolyard by saying that authorities should be allowed to take children away from anti-Semitic parents.

    >“Authorities need to act decisively [against anti-Semitism] including when the aggression comes from migrants,” Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union (DPolG) told the Augsburger Allgemeine on Wednesday.

    >“If children are raised to become anti-Semites we shouldn’t be afraid to take them away from their families,” he added.

    OT In order that Germany be less like Pakistan, the state shall take their children away.

    *Fixed.

    I suppose if the US had to use taxes to get Al Capone the Germans can be excused for using the instance of anti-Semitism to excuse policies to civilise their immigrant populations.

    Not that I support the Rabbit Proof Fence option. Indeed, once you arrive at that point you should be desperately questioning whomever is in charge of directions.

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    Why do you think this will be used against Muslims even one time?
    Do you know that German authorities always assume anti-Semitism to be the work of white rightists unless proven otherwise?
    Do you understand what will happen the first time any number of cops in any armor rig takes it into their heads to try to Elian a Muslim child?
    Do you understand that Germany permits them to live together in their own neighborhoods?
    Do you remember the German homeschoolers betrayed by Obama?
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  60. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon 2
    OT Steve, there is a fascinating article in today's NY Times,
    "Why is New York Condoning Illiteracy?" by Shulem Deen.
    It mentions high birth rates among New York's Hasidic
    Jews who increasingly rely on welfare to make ends
    meet. The boys are subjected to many years of Torah study
    at yeshiva schools where the language of instruction is
    Yiddish or Hebrew. As a result, at 18 they can barely speak
    English, and don't even know what a molecule is because the
    secular subjects are rarely included in the yeshiva curriculum.
    The girls are not required to study Torah or Talmud so end
    up more fluent in English and acquire more knowledge
    of the modern world.

    As I keep pointing out, the history of Jews in Europe is largely
    the history of Jews in Poland, for that's where they ended up
    after being expelled from Western Europe (and barred from
    Russia). The Polish Jews who lived in the vast Polish-Lithuanian
    Commonwealth (Polish cultural sphere in terms of language
    and religion) for centuries, basically formed a country
    within a country with their own Yeshiva school system where the
    instruction was in Yiddish. Poland tolerated this even though
    the Jews ended up with minimum Polish language skills. This kind
    of life continued until 1939, for Polish Jews were heavily Orthodox and
    Hasidic. Even in the 1930s the Jews stayed expelled. There were minuscule
    numbers of Jews in Germany (0.8%) and in the Soviet Union (under 1%)
    whereas Poland was 10% Jewish.

    It appears that the Hasidic Jews in New York have simply reproduced
    the way of life they remembered from living for centuries in the old
    Commonwealth (which in the 19th century still existed as the Polish
    cultural sphere, and was roughly coincident with the Pale of Settlement
    plus central Poland).

    “As I keep pointing out, the history of Jews in Europe is largely
    the history of Jews in Poland, for that’s where they ended up
    after being expelled from Western Europe (and barred from
    Russia).”

    OK. You may be drawing attention to an interesting and perhaps crucial aspect of European history. I suspect that you are. But what you are overtly saying strikes me as simply not true. It isn’t true. There are tons of highly influential European Jews who are not Polish Jews. So far as I grasp things, the vast majority of influential European Jews were not Polish Jews. And actual influence matters in history.

    (For what it’s worth, from my reading, Jews had a better chance of surviving Hitler in Berlin than in Warsaw…)

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    Your argument is true in its facts but nonsense in its course. Achievement is not a function of numbers. Jews considered Poland to be heaven on earth for Jews until the worm turned, at which point they geographically remained, the largest population in Europe, degrading into religious manias and small business concerns, right up to the Holocaust. Hypnotized by an increasingly outdated memory of success. Meanwhile the little pockets of Jews outside of Poland had both better opportunities (generally) plus relatively increased pressure to achieve. The best place to be a Jew after the fall of Poland was the Germanies, especially after reunification and in the moment of scientific ascendancy. The worst was -- Russia, which took over Poland's Jewish neighborhood and forbade them from ever moving out of it.
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  61. @Tyrion 2

    OT In order that Germany be less like Pakistan, the state shall take their children away.
     
    *Fixed.

    I suppose if the US had to use taxes to get Al Capone the Germans can be excused for using the instance of anti-Semitism to excuse policies to civilise their immigrant populations.

    Not that I support the Rabbit Proof Fence option. Indeed, once you arrive at that point you should be desperately questioning whomever is in charge of directions.

    Why do you think this will be used against Muslims even one time?
    Do you know that German authorities always assume anti-Semitism to be the work of white rightists unless proven otherwise?
    Do you understand what will happen the first time any number of cops in any armor rig takes it into their heads to try to Elian a Muslim child?
    Do you understand that Germany permits them to live together in their own neighborhoods?
    Do you remember the German homeschoolers betrayed by Obama?

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    Good questions here. If you read the English version of what the German police union leader said, it sounds like he might have been trying to direct his comment at immigrants, while maintaining cover. That is my take. He explicitly mentioned immigrants, and if here were trying to exclude them, he would not have done so. My sense is that someone speaking in this manner would try to "compensate" for targeting immigrants by trying to target some "native Germans" as well. But it does seem that this labor leader is, to some degree, aiming at immigrants.
    , @Tyrion 2
    Have you read the article? It is pretty clearly about Muslims. There are no more than a handful of German anti-Semites anyway - of course all 3 of them are Unz.com regulars...

    It also won't happen.
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  62. @Twinkie
    Seems like everywhere from that link - just not all of time.

    Went out with togas some places, telegrams others.

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    Christianity. Dig it.
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  63. @Anonymous
    "As I keep pointing out, the history of Jews in Europe is largely
    the history of Jews in Poland, for that’s where they ended up
    after being expelled from Western Europe (and barred from
    Russia)."

    OK. You may be drawing attention to an interesting and perhaps crucial aspect of European history. I suspect that you are. But what you are overtly saying strikes me as simply not true. It isn't true. There are tons of highly influential European Jews who are not Polish Jews. So far as I grasp things, the vast majority of influential European Jews were not Polish Jews. And actual influence matters in history.

    (For what it's worth, from my reading, Jews had a better chance of surviving Hitler in Berlin than in Warsaw...)

    Your argument is true in its facts but nonsense in its course. Achievement is not a function of numbers. Jews considered Poland to be heaven on earth for Jews until the worm turned, at which point they geographically remained, the largest population in Europe, degrading into religious manias and small business concerns, right up to the Holocaust. Hypnotized by an increasingly outdated memory of success. Meanwhile the little pockets of Jews outside of Poland had both better opportunities (generally) plus relatively increased pressure to achieve. The best place to be a Jew after the fall of Poland was the Germanies, especially after reunification and in the moment of scientific ascendancy. The worst was — Russia, which took over Poland’s Jewish neighborhood and forbade them from ever moving out of it.

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    "Achievement is not a function of numbers."

    I think that is an assertion that will gain the assent of the vast majority here, rightly so.

    As for the contention that Jews considered Poland heaven on earth, I find that interesting, and definitely worth considering. And the same goes for the ancillary claims. But unless I am deeply confused, the considerable majority of intellectually, culturally and historically influential European Jews came from outside of Poland, for at least the century or two prior to Hitler.
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  64. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Why do you think this will be used against Muslims even one time?
    Do you know that German authorities always assume anti-Semitism to be the work of white rightists unless proven otherwise?
    Do you understand what will happen the first time any number of cops in any armor rig takes it into their heads to try to Elian a Muslim child?
    Do you understand that Germany permits them to live together in their own neighborhoods?
    Do you remember the German homeschoolers betrayed by Obama?

    Good questions here. If you read the English version of what the German police union leader said, it sounds like he might have been trying to direct his comment at immigrants, while maintaining cover. That is my take. He explicitly mentioned immigrants, and if here were trying to exclude them, he would not have done so. My sense is that someone speaking in this manner would try to “compensate” for targeting immigrants by trying to target some “native Germans” as well. But it does seem that this labor leader is, to some degree, aiming at immigrants.

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  65. @J.Ross
    Why do you think this will be used against Muslims even one time?
    Do you know that German authorities always assume anti-Semitism to be the work of white rightists unless proven otherwise?
    Do you understand what will happen the first time any number of cops in any armor rig takes it into their heads to try to Elian a Muslim child?
    Do you understand that Germany permits them to live together in their own neighborhoods?
    Do you remember the German homeschoolers betrayed by Obama?

    Have you read the article? It is pretty clearly about Muslims. There are no more than a handful of German anti-Semites anyway – of course all 3 of them are Unz.com regulars…

    It also won’t happen.

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    >it's pretty clearly about Muslims
    And here we illustrate how smart folks can be dumb. They can make anything logical. History ain't logical, history is reality.
    I am not satisfied with it "almost certainly" being about Muslims. Sea lawyer that I am, I would derive great peace of mind from these Muslim-coddlers actually taking the time of doing the courtesy of spelling that out explicitly -- especially given their official and long-standing policies, and other enormous problems you do not seem to be aware of (so I clearly implied them for you in the last comment, being a sweetheart) -- as well as explaining how such a tremendous shift in understanding would require specific changes in procedure.
    tldr They do not go after Muslims -- they do not so much as blame Muslims -- except when they really have to, they have a well-evidenced racist bias against any whites who look like they might be thought criminals, and sending cops into a Muslim fortress/neighborhood to steal a Muslim's child is something you might want to consult with a Fallujah vet about in re the wisdom thereof.
    >there are only a few actual anti-Semites
    I like how you get to pretend you know absolutely nothing about the modern German establishment. I agree with you that genuine anti-Semites are quite rare. Do you believe that the German government believes that?
    >they won't do it
    They do it on a regular basis -- when the parents are white thought criminals. They have done it to people in America. You are right that they will never do it to Muslims, for the reasons I gave.
    , @Frau Katze
    Deserves a LOL, but I don’t one available for another 20 minutes or so.
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  66. I didn’t go into any details about what I meant by `involved’

    But it’s complicated

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  67. @J.Ross
    Will they see us as people when they're ruling us? Or will Beijing treat us like they currently treat Chinese?
    I haven't seen this brought up yet, the hierarchy I have seen is
    "She is beautiful."
    "She is cute."
    "She is an excellent calligrapher." (= she is cultured)
    "She is a good Communist."

    I haven’t seen this brought up yet, the hierarchy I have seen is
    “She is beautiful.”
    “She is cute.”
    “She is an excellent calligrapher.” (= she is cultured)
    “She is a good Communist.”

    Where does “She has a great sense of humor” or “She has a great personality” fit in the hierarchy?

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    The idea is that all of these are evaluating physical beauty.
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  68. @J.Ross
    Are you six foot five?

    Six foot one inch

    for The Korean to wear high heels, I have boots with bg heels and I add pads so my eyes are just above hers.

    important to her to know I’m taller

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    I guess standing on your wallet wouldn't help you accomplish that trick?
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  69. Guangdong women are just dark, short and ugly.
    Fujian women don’t look like that at all. They’re generally rather light skinned.

    What they have in common is being evil.

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  70. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Your argument is true in its facts but nonsense in its course. Achievement is not a function of numbers. Jews considered Poland to be heaven on earth for Jews until the worm turned, at which point they geographically remained, the largest population in Europe, degrading into religious manias and small business concerns, right up to the Holocaust. Hypnotized by an increasingly outdated memory of success. Meanwhile the little pockets of Jews outside of Poland had both better opportunities (generally) plus relatively increased pressure to achieve. The best place to be a Jew after the fall of Poland was the Germanies, especially after reunification and in the moment of scientific ascendancy. The worst was -- Russia, which took over Poland's Jewish neighborhood and forbade them from ever moving out of it.

    “Achievement is not a function of numbers.”

    I think that is an assertion that will gain the assent of the vast majority here, rightly so.

    As for the contention that Jews considered Poland heaven on earth, I find that interesting, and definitely worth considering. And the same goes for the ancillary claims. But unless I am deeply confused, the considerable majority of intellectually, culturally and historically influential European Jews came from outside of Poland, for at least the century or two prior to Hitler.

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    Vienna had more famous Jews than all of Poland.
    , @Anon 2
    After the Jews were expelled from Western Europe and
    found refuge in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
    (by 1550 about 90% of the Ashkenazis lived there), Poland
    became known in Europe as Paradisus Iudaeorum (Jewish
    Paradise). And indeed even in the 1920s-30s hundreds of
    thousands of Jews were fleeing from the Soviet Union and
    Germany, and seeking refuge in Poland. Isaac Bashevis
    Singer wrote ( in Yiddish) how wonderful it was to be Jewish
    in Poland in the early 20th century. Read his memoirs of
    growing up in Warsaw. By the way, he barely spoke Polish,
    just like the Hasidic teenage boys in today's Brooklyn can barely
    speak English.
    , @Anon
    There was no Poland for the century and a half prior to Hitler. That might have something to do with it.
    , @J.Ross
    There are some books you might read about this, which I might have already read -- a Jewish heaven on Earth was their own term for the place, when they were autonomously governing themselves and crushing peasants for the nobility.
    >an assertion the racist yahoos sewing ghost costumes around here will not dispute
    Yeah and it has the bonus of being generally true and widely evidenced.
    A Jew in the Shtetl was comfortable -- the worst kind of comfortable, stagnating, imprisoned both by racist policies but also by irrelevant memories of glory. There's an awful lot of non-Jews who could be described by that. Meanwhile Jews in Vienna or Berlin or later London felt pressure every day to demonstrate greatness to unsympathetic judges.
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  71. @Whitehall's masculine competitor
    I am involved with three women right now. I won't clutter up these comments with details. Just wanted y'all to know.

    Details for Greasy Williams, please.

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  72. @snorlax
    Went out with togas some places, telegrams others.

    Christianity. Dig it.

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    Christianity. Dig it.
     
    Sadly, the historically Catholic center of Japan was ground zero for the dropping of the A-Bomb. I’m currently reading A Song for Nagasaki. It is the saddest story about the most beautiful human being I have ever read. Dr. Takashi Naigai, a Catholic convert, was an expert in the field of radiology who was at ground zero that day in August of ‘45. He lost the love of his life that day, his wife (a beautiful love story), and sacrificed his own life helping survivors of the bombing.

    "Whether you live or die, it is for God's glory."- Takashi Naigai (Servant of God)

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  73. @Anonymous
    "Achievement is not a function of numbers."

    I think that is an assertion that will gain the assent of the vast majority here, rightly so.

    As for the contention that Jews considered Poland heaven on earth, I find that interesting, and definitely worth considering. And the same goes for the ancillary claims. But unless I am deeply confused, the considerable majority of intellectually, culturally and historically influential European Jews came from outside of Poland, for at least the century or two prior to Hitler.

    Vienna had more famous Jews than all of Poland.

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    "Vienna had more famous Jews than Poland"

    This argument fails to consider many factors. Let me just
    focus on two:

    1. Poland did not exist as an independent country for 200 years,
    from 1795 (Last Partition) to 1989 (Overthrow of Marxism-Leninism),
    except during the 20 year interwar period. Austria in the late 19th
    century was a powerful empire with excellent universities. Poland's
    universities were shut down by the Romanov-ruled Russia (90%
    German). I have a soft spot for the Hapsburgs who were Catholic
    like Poland and allowed the Jagiellonian University in Cracow and
    the Lvov University to remain open. Both places made enormous
    contributions to mathematics.

    You cannot have famous people without a healthy intellectual ecosystem
    incl. universities, libraries, archives, bookstores, publishers, etc. These
    were systematically shut down, destroyed or underfunded in partitioned
    Poland. I'm sorry Steve but to understand Jewish history in Europe you
    need to improve your knowledge of Eastern European history. By the way,
    speaking of fame, most of Israel's Prime Ministers were born either in
    Poland or the former Commonwealth, incl. Ben-Gurion and Menachem Begin
    (Real name: Mieczysław Biegun). Netanyahu's real name is Mileikowski.
    That was his father's real name, and he was born in Warsaw.

    2. The Jews in Poland, i.e., Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, were mostly
    Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox, with little interest in secular learning. For
    example, Hasidism originated in the 18th century in the Polish-Lithuanian
    Commonwealth in what today is called western Ukraine which was part
    of the Polish cultural sphere. Let's not forget that even Kiev was a Polish-ruled
    city for 150-200 years. The Ultra-Orthodox originated in Poland, are very
    influential in Israel, and IMHO are the future of Judaism in the U.S., if only
    because of their extremely high birthrates.
    , @Anon 2
    I realize that counting famous names is important to HBD
    types but clearly that instantly writes off 99.9% of women.
    Are Jewish women dumb because they haven't won as many
    Nobel prizes as their male counterparts? Discounting the
    contributions of half of humanity (so making babies doesn't count?)
    clearly makes no sense.

    Even more important, becoming famous is of no importance
    to many people since it presupposes worldly success as the
    measure of a life well-lived. Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox
    Jews, most Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, Buddhists,
    most Hindus (ZFG, if you pardon my English, about the
    number of Olympic medals won), etc would reject that
    yardstick of success. True, worldly success has become important
    to Protestants, atheists, and agnostics in today's rat race world
    but many would characterize the pursuit of wealth, power, fame,
    and influence as a shallow philosophy of life. And, as the famous
    article in Forbes has shown, psychopaths are overrepresented
    among business leaders. There is no better prescription for
    worldly success than being a highly intelligent psychopath.
    Need I mention Harvey Weinstein or even Zuckerberg (Jimmy
    Fallon called him yesterday the most hated man in America). Are we
    supposed to admire psychopaths and nasty people like Picasso?
    , @Truth
    Yeah, but the Jewish satirists weren't nearly as good.
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  74. LKM says:

    The weird thing about the light-skinned Indian actresses obsession is that it even extends into the regional film industries in the duskier parts of India. For example, do a google image search for “Tamil woman”, then do one for “Tamil actress”. It’s like the women are from two different races. Can’t be good for the self-esteem of your average Tamil teenager, but it must do wonders for the bottom line of skin-lightener companies.

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    I have traveled pretty extensively in India and lived in the Gulf region and have never once seen a woman who looks like the light-skinned Bollywood beauties. (Compared to, say, New York, Montreal, or Paris, where women of movie-star quality looks are a dime a dozen walking down the street. And I've seen plenty in China, too, especially Chengdu.)

    Why is that? Are the tails on the bell curve (the upper tail, that is) for attractiveness that much thinner in India? Are the Bollywood actresses' looks fake? Maybe the types of beauty enhancements that normally attractive women practice in the West are less available to the masses in India. Maybe the standards for Bollywood are higher, inasmuch as there is a wider variety of looks that qualify for stardom among white women in the U.S. than in India. Certainly the percentage of women who make a career based on looks is higher in the U.S.

    Or maybe I am just imagining things.

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  75. @wren
    North vs. South

    https://youtu.be/LbiIu_EzuWk

    A classic.

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  76. @J.Ross
    Ah yes, "Guangdong dogs," and relevant to our immigration history because our early Chinese immigrants were almost exclusively from the bottom of society of the least-liked province. Sometimes Chinese explain American disapproval of a Chinese action in terms of us taking Newfies for Canucks. Libertarian Reason magazine had a cover story about the Guangdong free enterprise spirit (the mountains are tall and the emperor is far away), which is seen by other Chinese as unscrupulousness.

    OT In order that Germany be less like Nazi Germany, the state shall take your children.
    https://www.thelocal.de/20180404/police-union-calls-for-children-to-be-taken-away-from-anti-semitic-parents

    >The head of Germany’s second largest police union has responded to recent reports of anti-Semitism in the schoolyard by saying that authorities should be allowed to take children away from anti-Semitic parents.

    >“Authorities need to act decisively [against anti-Semitism] including when the aggression comes from migrants,” Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union (DPolG) told the Augsburger Allgemeine on Wednesday.

    >“If children are raised to become anti-Semites we shouldn’t be afraid to take them away from their families,” he added.

    As you know Guadong was described in English as Canton. Canton was the one spot in China where the rest of the world was allowed to trade with China. There was a three hundred yard wide strip of land where Western merchants could set up shop. One speculates that there was selection pressure to create a trading caste, one that exists throughout the world now. Amy Chua’s people. The Taiping Rebellian helped disburse those folks as well.

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    Oh so it's our fault, is it?
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  77. @Whitehall's masculine competitor
    I am involved with three women right now. I won't clutter up these comments with details. Just wanted y'all to know.

    I am involved with three women right now.

    Mom, grandmom and tax inspector?

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  78. @Steve Sailer
    Vienna had more famous Jews than all of Poland.

    “Vienna had more famous Jews than Poland”

    This argument fails to consider many factors. Let me just
    focus on two:

    1. Poland did not exist as an independent country for 200 years,
    from 1795 (Last Partition) to 1989 (Overthrow of Marxism-Leninism),
    except during the 20 year interwar period. Austria in the late 19th
    century was a powerful empire with excellent universities. Poland’s
    universities were shut down by the Romanov-ruled Russia (90%
    German). I have a soft spot for the Hapsburgs who were Catholic
    like Poland and allowed the Jagiellonian University in Cracow and
    the Lvov University to remain open. Both places made enormous
    contributions to mathematics.

    You cannot have famous people without a healthy intellectual ecosystem
    incl. universities, libraries, archives, bookstores, publishers, etc. These
    were systematically shut down, destroyed or underfunded in partitioned
    Poland. I’m sorry Steve but to understand Jewish history in Europe you
    need to improve your knowledge of Eastern European history. By the way,
    speaking of fame, most of Israel’s Prime Ministers were born either in
    Poland or the former Commonwealth, incl. Ben-Gurion and Menachem Begin
    (Real name: Mieczysław Biegun). Netanyahu’s real name is Mileikowski.
    That was his father’s real name, and he was born in Warsaw.

    2. The Jews in Poland, i.e., Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, were mostly
    Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox, with little interest in secular learning. For
    example, Hasidism originated in the 18th century in the Polish-Lithuanian
    Commonwealth in what today is called western Ukraine which was part
    of the Polish cultural sphere. Let’s not forget that even Kiev was a Polish-ruled
    city for 150-200 years. The Ultra-Orthodox originated in Poland, are very
    influential in Israel, and IMHO are the future of Judaism in the U.S., if only
    because of their extremely high birthrates.

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    These are pilpul. "Austrian Jews" are largely Polish Jews subjected to a totally different culture, with decisively different results. Polish nobles were interested in religious liberty and squeezed-flat peasants, and that's what they got. Russians thought this same population should be neither seen nor heard, and that dictated results. A brilliant Jewish inventor in the Pale would bring attention, and that could be downright dangerous. Austro-Hungarian monarches perhaps came closest prior to the modern world in believing in multi-kulti and making it work, and they got objectively great results from that.
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  79. @snorlax
    Most of the Jewish male actors and probably at this point even most of the directors and producers are halfsies. Still, plenty of actresses are 100% Jewish, like Natalie Portman (who was born in Jerusalem).

    Portman does kind of resemble the Wonder Woman actress, now that I think about it.

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  80. @Anonymous
    "Achievement is not a function of numbers."

    I think that is an assertion that will gain the assent of the vast majority here, rightly so.

    As for the contention that Jews considered Poland heaven on earth, I find that interesting, and definitely worth considering. And the same goes for the ancillary claims. But unless I am deeply confused, the considerable majority of intellectually, culturally and historically influential European Jews came from outside of Poland, for at least the century or two prior to Hitler.

    After the Jews were expelled from Western Europe and
    found refuge in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
    (by 1550 about 90% of the Ashkenazis lived there), Poland
    became known in Europe as Paradisus Iudaeorum (Jewish
    Paradise). And indeed even in the 1920s-30s hundreds of
    thousands of Jews were fleeing from the Soviet Union and
    Germany, and seeking refuge in Poland. Isaac Bashevis
    Singer wrote ( in Yiddish) how wonderful it was to be Jewish
    in Poland in the early 20th century. Read his memoirs of
    growing up in Warsaw. By the way, he barely spoke Polish,
    just like the Hasidic teenage boys in today’s Brooklyn can barely
    speak English.

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    Too bad Poland wasn't paradise to majority of Polish people.
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  81. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie
    Christianity. Dig it.

    Christianity. Dig it.

    Sadly, the historically Catholic center of Japan was ground zero for the dropping of the A-Bomb. I’m currently reading A Song for Nagasaki. It is the saddest story about the most beautiful human being I have ever read. Dr. Takashi Naigai, a Catholic convert, was an expert in the field of radiology who was at ground zero that day in August of ‘45. He lost the love of his life that day, his wife (a beautiful love story), and sacrificed his own life helping survivors of the bombing.

    “Whether you live or die, it is for God’s glory.”- Takashi Naigai (Servant of God)

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  82. @Steve Sailer
    Vienna had more famous Jews than all of Poland.

    I realize that counting famous names is important to HBD
    types but clearly that instantly writes off 99.9% of women.
    Are Jewish women dumb because they haven’t won as many
    Nobel prizes as their male counterparts? Discounting the
    contributions of half of humanity (so making babies doesn’t count?)
    clearly makes no sense.

    Even more important, becoming famous is of no importance
    to many people since it presupposes worldly success as the
    measure of a life well-lived. Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox
    Jews, most Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, Buddhists,
    most Hindus (ZFG, if you pardon my English, about the
    number of Olympic medals won), etc would reject that
    yardstick of success. True, worldly success has become important
    to Protestants, atheists, and agnostics in today’s rat race world
    but many would characterize the pursuit of wealth, power, fame,
    and influence as a shallow philosophy of life. And, as the famous
    article in Forbes has shown, psychopaths are overrepresented
    among business leaders. There is no better prescription for
    worldly success than being a highly intelligent psychopath.
    Need I mention Harvey Weinstein or even Zuckerberg (Jimmy
    Fallon called him yesterday the most hated man in America). Are we
    supposed to admire psychopaths and nasty people like Picasso?

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  83. No word for God and strippers at funerals. China will take over the world.

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    I can't find any links, but I remember at one point there were strippers at voting stations to increase voting too.

    It was pretty funny, though social media is probably going to kill all of it.

    As an aside - in 500 BC or so, a Chinese philosophy condemned elaborate funerals(among other things):

    The aristocratic practices of elaborate funerals and prolonged mourning are condemned as "not morally right" (buyi) because they are not only useless to solving the world's problems, but add to the people's burdens.
     
    Two and a half millenia later, elaborate funerals remain and Mohism is practically extinguished as a philosophy. Boobs > logic.
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  84. @Anonymous
    "Achievement is not a function of numbers."

    I think that is an assertion that will gain the assent of the vast majority here, rightly so.

    As for the contention that Jews considered Poland heaven on earth, I find that interesting, and definitely worth considering. And the same goes for the ancillary claims. But unless I am deeply confused, the considerable majority of intellectually, culturally and historically influential European Jews came from outside of Poland, for at least the century or two prior to Hitler.

    There was no Poland for the century and a half prior to Hitler. That might have something to do with it.

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    The second Polish Republic existed from 1918-1939.
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  85. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    The responses from these bitter ladies to the broken-hearted shiksa's story would lead one to draw his own "shrewish" conclusions even if he'd never before heard about any of those "shrewish" stereotypes.

    Yeah, well, a lot of these Jewish women were doing exactly the same thing in their youth, getting their pieces of some goy boys before marrying Morty, which is the root cause for the shrewish Jewess.

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    Hey, unless you're Gabe Kapler, then you can have all that, and the Shiksos will even offer of their girlfriends in tribute.
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  86. thread. comparative pics. now.

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  87. Relevant:

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  88. @wren
    North vs. South

    https://youtu.be/LbiIu_EzuWk

    See Danny, this is why we need to go to Beijing and start 性感学院!

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  89. @1661er
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2017/11/02/is-he-interested-in-me-or-does-he-just-want-hamilton-tickets/?utm_term=.b9c6eecceea5

    I would love to meet a man who enjoys seeing theater and would appreciate all of the dates we’d go on together — not just “Hamilton.” One of the musical’s most famous lyrics states: “I am not throwing away my shot.” I wish these men would realize that when they ask if I can get them tickets, they have already thrown away theirs.
     
    Just 5 months ago she was complaining about men trying to date her for her access to "Hamilton" tickets. At some point, if no men are interested in her for her own sake, wether is to rebel against their upbringing, or to score hot Broadway tickets, etc.? Maybe there were one common denominator, her.

    Just 5 months ago she was complaining about men trying to date her for her access to “Hamilton” tickets. At some point, if no men are interested in her for her own sake, wether is to rebel against their upbringing, or to score hot Broadway tickets, etc.? Maybe there were one common denominator?

    Yeah, she need to learn how to recognize homos.

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  90. @Twinkie

    Beauties, cuties, hotties, and shrews.

    So, China has all the same types of women that America does. Maybe the types are universal.
     
    You know the Chinese are people, too, right?

    Yeah. But the Koreans are GODS!

    According to you anyway.

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    Well, Seoul (or Tokyo) does look more like Wakanda than any place in Africa. Except Seoul is real.
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  91. @Twinkie

    I’m involved with two... women at the moment.
     
    Information such as this used to be a source of shame, not something to be bandied about in public.

    Oh come on Old Sport. The legend is that on page 112 of he Samguk Yusa, bottom left corner, the archaic character indicates that Buyeyo, as scandalous as it may seem, might have actually bragged upon his dick.

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  92. @snorlax
    Most of the Jewish male actors and probably at this point even most of the directors and producers are halfsies. Still, plenty of actresses are 100% Jewish, like Natalie Portman (who was born in Jerusalem).

    Most of the Jewish male actors are halfsies. Still, plenty of actresses are 100% Jewish, like Natalie Portman

    A distinction without a difference.

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  93. @Whitehall
    Six foot one inch

    for The Korean to wear high heels, I have boots with bg heels and I add pads so my eyes are just above hers.

    important to her to know I'm taller

    I guess standing on your wallet wouldn’t help you accomplish that trick?

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  94. @Anon
    you see this, too, in martial arts.
    In Kung Fu, there is a Northern style that favors distance striking and Southern Style which favors in-close mixing it up.
    The height thing makes both of those approaches make way more sense! If you are 6cms taller, range boxing is your natural go-to and if you’re 6 cms shorter, it makes sense to diffuse range by working on slipping and feignting to get in close

    Nothing about Kung Fu “makes sense.” Devoting effort to learning it is a path to a false sense of security, and to getting your ass meted out to you in a live, non-choreographed situation.

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  95. @Steve Sailer
    Vienna had more famous Jews than all of Poland.

    Yeah, but the Jewish satirists weren’t nearly as good.

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  96. @Brutusale
    Yeah, well, a lot of these Jewish women were doing exactly the same thing in their youth, getting their pieces of some goy boys before marrying Morty, which is the root cause for the shrewish Jewess.

    Hey, unless you’re Gabe Kapler, then you can have all that, and the Shiksos will even offer of their girlfriends in tribute.

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  97. @Anon
    There was no Poland for the century and a half prior to Hitler. That might have something to do with it.

    The second Polish Republic existed from 1918-1939.

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    True. Correction noted.
    , @J.Ross
    This is a quibble and, while it defeated the Soviets, it was not comparable to its former Intermarium ability.
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  98. @Whitehall
    I'm involved with two Asian women at the moment.

    The Korean is 5'10. Her grandfather was a refugee from the North during the war, settling near Seoul.

    The Chinese girl is 5'6" and from Manchuria, three hours east of Beijing.

    Neither is shrewish.

    Just two data points that support Steve's observations.

    Never let an opportunity for humblebrag go to waste.

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  99. @Sean
    No word for God and strippers at funerals. China will take over the world.

    I can’t find any links, but I remember at one point there were strippers at voting stations to increase voting too.

    It was pretty funny, though social media is probably going to kill all of it.

    As an aside – in 500 BC or so, a Chinese philosophy condemned elaborate funerals(among other things):

    The aristocratic practices of elaborate funerals and prolonged mourning are condemned as “not morally right” (buyi) because they are not only useless to solving the world’s problems, but add to the people’s burdens.

    Two and a half millenia later, elaborate funerals remain and Mohism is practically extinguished as a philosophy. Boobs > logic.

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  100. @Michelle
    I have co-workers who are Chinese-American and Vietnamese-American and Chinese-Vietnamese. Many of whom are awesome and incredible at their jobs.

    I’m sure that the Americans who didn’t get those jobs are delighted for you and them.

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  101. @Flip
    The second Polish Republic existed from 1918-1939.

    True. Correction noted.

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  102. @Erik Sieven
    Japan doesn't have an extremely low TFR by international standards

    Meaningless statement. “Japanese people are and will be drastically dwindling in number, but many other peoples are dying out too, so by International standards they’re okay.” No.

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  103. @Truth
    Yeah. But the Koreans are GODS!

    According to you anyway.

    Well, Seoul (or Tokyo) does look more like Wakanda than any place in Africa. Except Seoul is real.

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    Maybe, but Korean women having babies ain't.
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  104. @Tiny Duck
    Watch out a big blue is coming to sweep you guys away for good!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/04/wisconsins-gop-governor-warns-blue-wave-as-liberal-wins-court-seat.html

    More progressive judges, more acknowledgment of white supremacy and privilege. Get ready for a level playing field and more tolerance.

    I know you guys don't like fairness but its coming whether you like it or not

    LISTEN to People of Color

    http://88cupsoftea.com/podcast/roshani-chokshi/

    Pay attention to how your behavior makes life hard for them

    Never forget how the White European Colonialists made life an unbearable misery for the indigenous tribes of India over the past 500 years:

    Mughal administrations raided forest tribal peoples for slaves, took thousands of prisoners as they invaded the South, and subjected those who defaulted on taxes to slavery.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=Jru5CAAAQBAJ&pg=PA52

    It is reported that in 1619-20 Abdullah Khan defeated all the hitherto un-subdued Chauhan rajas and ‘rebels’ of the Kalpi-Kanauj area he had been given to rule: he then had the principal men beheaded, while the peasants’ women, daughters and children, to the number of 200,000, were at his instance transported to Iran and sold there.”

    https://books.google.com/books?id=SrdiVPsFRYIC&pg=PA12

    No one can deny that white ppl are a cancer, plague and blight with no peers in human history.

    Whiteness is a unique evil in human history, and once it is completely ABOLISHED all the world’s social problems will disappear, because only genetic bearers of the social construct of whiteness have an inborn predisposition for evil and corruption.

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  105. @Twinkie
    Well, Seoul (or Tokyo) does look more like Wakanda than any place in Africa. Except Seoul is real.

    Maybe, but Korean women having babies ain’t.

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  106. @LKM
    The weird thing about the light-skinned Indian actresses obsession is that it even extends into the regional film industries in the duskier parts of India. For example, do a google image search for "Tamil woman", then do one for "Tamil actress". It's like the women are from two different races. Can't be good for the self-esteem of your average Tamil teenager, but it must do wonders for the bottom line of skin-lightener companies.

    I have traveled pretty extensively in India and lived in the Gulf region and have never once seen a woman who looks like the light-skinned Bollywood beauties. (Compared to, say, New York, Montreal, or Paris, where women of movie-star quality looks are a dime a dozen walking down the street. And I’ve seen plenty in China, too, especially Chengdu.)

    Why is that? Are the tails on the bell curve (the upper tail, that is) for attractiveness that much thinner in India? Are the Bollywood actresses’ looks fake? Maybe the types of beauty enhancements that normally attractive women practice in the West are less available to the masses in India. Maybe the standards for Bollywood are higher, inasmuch as there is a wider variety of looks that qualify for stardom among white women in the U.S. than in India. Certainly the percentage of women who make a career based on looks is higher in the U.S.

    Or maybe I am just imagining things.

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    You aren't the first to have noticed this.

    https://www.singledudetravel.com/2013/12/indias-shocking-lack-of-attractive-women/

    Basically poor nutrition, sanitation, and poverty combined with darker skin tones results in decidedly mediocre looking women. Add in all this with Muslim derived habit of female seclusion from public spaces means that most native Indian women do not even try to look fashionable. Since you lived in the Gulf, you should be aware of the American levels of heifers that pass for norm among Arab women. One of the unfortunate downsides of Sharia law that keeps women in doors makes cooking and eating the only real available social activity. Hence among why among the Arabs the women are so much more prone to obesity than the men while it is generally the inverse everywhere else. India suffers from this as well though obviously to a lesser degree.
    , @Anonym
    With a billion people there will be some diamonds among the coal.
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  107. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux
    So much fascinating stuff in this piece....


    I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion

    Over almost seven years and two serious relationships with Jewish men who at first said religion didn’t matter — and then backtracked and decided it did — I’ve optimistically begun interfaith relationships with an open mind twice, only to become the last woman these men dated before settling down with a nice Jewish girl.
     

    I can now say with certainty that I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion.
     

    At first glance, I fulfill the stereotypes of a white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP). I’m blond, often wear pearls and can mix an excellent, and very strong, martini. Manners and etiquette are important to me, and when I’m stressed, I often cope by cleaning. I do describe myself as Christian, but loosely and in the most liberal sense possible. I don’t discuss my faith the first time I meet someone or on first dates. But if I find myself falling for someone who does not share my spiritual views, I bring up the subject. If it’s going to be a problem, I want to know.

     


    That’s exactly what I did in my previous long-term relationships, both of which were with Jewish men. And both men said it wasn’t a problem that I was Christian, as they considered themselves culturally, but not spiritually, Jewish. At the very least, they were the most lackadaisical Jews I’d ever met. They never fasted on Yom Kippur or observed Jewish holidays on their own. And when they traveled to celebrate holidays with their families, they made it clear it was an obligation rather than a choice. On more than one occasion in conversation, we laughed about the fact that I knew more about the Jewish faith than they did.
     

    For the first few of the years I was dating these men, the fact that I was not Jewish rarely came up. My boyfriends helped decorate my Christmas trees, attended parties hosted by my friends from church, and their parents seemed to like me. I loved learning more about Judaism and sometimes even reminded them when certain holidays were approaching. When a spam email showed up in my account advertising a service to help me “Find Sincere Jewish Singles In Your Area!” I laughed and forwarded it to my boyfriend at the time, saying: “I think I’ve got that covered.”
     

    Sure, there were some tense moments in these relationships. One of their mothers was extremely overbearing, somehow getting my cellphone number and calling me, asking where her son was. I didn’t know where he was, and her calling me made me incredibly uncomfortable. I asked my boyfriend how she got my number — he swore he didn’t give it to her — and told him I didn’t want this kind of involvement to be part of our relationship. When he talked to her about it, she exploded, yelling, “If she were Jewish, she’d understand!” I wasn’t invited to the seders that his family held, despite my saying I had loved attending them with my friends. There were times at church that I saw couples worshiping together and felt pangs of jealousy. But I told myself every relationship had its problems and these were relatively minor.

     


    These issues weren’t there at first, but they started to appear after some time had passed and we were already in love. After years of dating, religion was suddenly a problem when it never had been before. I didn’t understand where it was coming from, and they weren’t able to explain it.
     

    Not being Jewish was not the official reason either of these relationships ended. There were other problems — money, careers and plans for the future — problems I wanted to at least try to work through. But when I tried to talk about them, somehow the fact that I wasn’t Jewish came up — even in conversations that had nothing to do with family or children. When I asked, “What does that have to do with this?” they didn’t — or couldn’t — answer and kept talking about Judaism.
     

    After we broke up, both men went on to find serious partners who were, in fact, Jewish. And while I try not to look back after a relationship ends, to go full-on Carrie Bradshaw, I couldn’t help but wonder if this was not just a coincidence but a pattern I should pay attention to. I didn’t doubt the love we’d had for each other, and I knew religion was one of the top reasons couples break up. But why did they say it didn’t matter and then decide it did — and find partners who fit the description they said they weren’t actually looking for?
     

    I guess dating me had been their last act of defiance against cultural or familial expectations before finding someone who warranted their parents’ approval — perhaps the equivalent of a woman dating a motorcycle-driving, leather-jacket wearing “bad boy” before settling down with a banker with a 9-5 job. I now half-jokingly consider myself a Jewish man’s rebellion and guard myself against again landing in that role.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2018/03/29/i-am-tired-of-being-a-jewish-mans-rebellion/?utm_term=.03df9e996ba5



    The reaction to her article has been most interesting.....

    'She Was Trying on a Culture': Why Jews Are Fuming at Washington Post Essay Lamenting Jewish Boyfriend
    The anger sparked by the article in which a WASP complains about two failed relationships with Jewish boyfriends shows that, in 2018, perceived anti-Semitism strikes a highly sensitive nerve
     

    As expected, there was a huge social media backlash – and more than one scathing satire piece – sneering comically at her millennial solipsism and the fact that in a world where intermarriage is rampant, she could be so blind to the fact that these guys were just not that into her. There were plenty of jokes to that end, and also many referring to the decision to publish the piece on Passover, picking on Jews at a time when they’re deprived of their favorite comfort cuisine.
     

    But the red-hot intensity and anger sparked by the essay was unique to 2018 – a time in which Jews are attuned to anti-Semitism at a higher level than they have been in decades.

    They have good reason. For two years, over the course of the Trump campaign and presidency, a newly empowered alt-right movement of white nationalists has relentlessly flooded social media with its racist, anti-Semitic bile. And following the Harvey Weinstein scandal and other #MeToo cases involving Jewish men, numerous memes depicted ugly, white supremacist stereotypes of Jewish men defiling, abusing and discarding innocent white, Christian women. Beyond the internet, young men marched chanting the Nazi slogan “Blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us!” in Charlottesville; an actual Nazi is the Republican nominee for an Illinois congressional seat; and there has been a spike in anti-Semitic attacks in the United States.
     

    She didn’t directly invoke the racist archetype of the opportunistic and lustful Jewish man preying on innocent “shiksas,” just as she didn’t overtly state that, unlike herself, Jewish women are rude, messy and don’t know how to mix martinis.
     

    But neither did the existence of such anti-Semitic imagery – and the charged atmosphere of the moment – stop her from writing an article that portrayed her as the hapless blond, Christian, disposable plaything of callous Jewish men.
     

    One imagines that she (and her editors at the Post) may have thought twice before publishing a rant implying her mistreatment at the hands of nonwhite ex-boyfriends and their black, Latino or Muslim families.

     

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-hitting-a-nerve-with-a-sledgehammer-1.5975152

    WRITER OF JEWISH DATING OP-ED IN WASHINGTON POST APOLOGIZES
    Casey Purcell’s essay on swearing off Jewish men sparks ire online.

     


    New York Times writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner wondered if “maybe these Jewish men aren’t leaving you because you’re not Jewish as much as they’re leaving you because you hate Jews?” And Helen Rosner, a writer for The New Yorker, tweeted that “it’s definitely not super racist and pathologically narcissistic to write an op-ed in a major newspaper about how you’re done dating people of one specific religion, no sirree bob.”

     

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Writer-of-Jewish-dating-op-ed-in-Washington-Post-apologizes-547830

    Statistics show that Jewish men marry shiksas about 40% of the time. As it was in my case. My mother was nonplussed when I told, some time in the 1950s, that I didn’t plan on marrying a JAP (=Jewish American Princess). Nor did I. I married a tall shiksa with light brown hair. And my mother took it in stride and was very loving to her. And to her identical twin sister. So the author of this piece, assuming that she’s telling the truth, and that there’s nothing wrong with her wife-wise, had a exceptional string of bad luck events. Which makes me suspect that she made up the tale to have something to write about seeing that she’s a writer.

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  108. 1. Some Chinese women have an arresting and I think attractive combination of features. Tall, with aquiline noses, not the usual flat 2-dimensional nose. Where is this the most common?

    2. Do you have a brother named “Next of”?

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  109. Perhaps the Chinese movie industry is full of vulgar but energetic movie producers from Guangdong with names like Harb Won-ton who are notorious for casting / hitting on all the non-Guangdong actresses?

    LOL! Steve, you are hilarious! Definitely going to the April tip jar for that one… :-D

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  110. @J.Ross
    Ah yes, "Guangdong dogs," and relevant to our immigration history because our early Chinese immigrants were almost exclusively from the bottom of society of the least-liked province. Sometimes Chinese explain American disapproval of a Chinese action in terms of us taking Newfies for Canucks. Libertarian Reason magazine had a cover story about the Guangdong free enterprise spirit (the mountains are tall and the emperor is far away), which is seen by other Chinese as unscrupulousness.

    OT In order that Germany be less like Nazi Germany, the state shall take your children.
    https://www.thelocal.de/20180404/police-union-calls-for-children-to-be-taken-away-from-anti-semitic-parents

    >The head of Germany’s second largest police union has responded to recent reports of anti-Semitism in the schoolyard by saying that authorities should be allowed to take children away from anti-Semitic parents.

    >“Authorities need to act decisively [against anti-Semitism] including when the aggression comes from migrants,” Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union (DPolG) told the Augsburger Allgemeine on Wednesday.

    >“If children are raised to become anti-Semites we shouldn’t be afraid to take them away from their families,” he added.

    >“If children are raised to become anti-Semites we shouldn’t be afraid to take them away from their families,” he added.

    Hmm … maybe you don’t fill your nation up with incompatible foreigners and then you don’t have to rip their families apart to instill your proper Germanic values? Just a thought.

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  111. @SnakeEyes
    Does the presence of the Hakka people/genes in southern China (Fujian, Canton and overseas Chinese diaspora) have any impact on the variations in appearance among the Chinese populace?

    I believe that many Hong Kong actresses have high profiles in the Hong Kong movie industry which, though no longer dominant, is still successful in mainland China. Are not Hong Kong Chinese basically the same as Guandong Chinese, i.e., Cantonese?

    My observation is that ethnic Chinese in peninsula Malaysia are unusually tall.

    In the le Carre novel The Honourable Schoolboy, a character opines that Hakka women are in demand as brides, “being beautiful, frugal and lecherous“.

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  112. @Anonymous
    "Achievement is not a function of numbers."

    I think that is an assertion that will gain the assent of the vast majority here, rightly so.

    As for the contention that Jews considered Poland heaven on earth, I find that interesting, and definitely worth considering. And the same goes for the ancillary claims. But unless I am deeply confused, the considerable majority of intellectually, culturally and historically influential European Jews came from outside of Poland, for at least the century or two prior to Hitler.

    There are some books you might read about this, which I might have already read — a Jewish heaven on Earth was their own term for the place, when they were autonomously governing themselves and crushing peasants for the nobility.
    >an assertion the racist yahoos sewing ghost costumes around here will not dispute
    Yeah and it has the bonus of being generally true and widely evidenced.
    A Jew in the Shtetl was comfortable — the worst kind of comfortable, stagnating, imprisoned both by racist policies but also by irrelevant memories of glory. There’s an awful lot of non-Jews who could be described by that. Meanwhile Jews in Vienna or Berlin or later London felt pressure every day to demonstrate greatness to unsympathetic judges.

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  113. @Flip
    The second Polish Republic existed from 1918-1939.

    This is a quibble and, while it defeated the Soviets, it was not comparable to its former Intermarium ability.

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  114. @Buzz Mohawk

    Northern - beauties - are tall and fair...

    Jiangnan - cuties - are feminine and cultured...

    Sichuan - hotties - are extra “spicy”...

    Guangdong women are - shrewish - unpleasant and demanding.

     

    Beauties, cuties, hotties, and shrews.

    So, China has all the same types of women that America does. Maybe the types are universal.

    So, China has all the same types of women that America does. Maybe the types are universal.

    American beauties, cuties and hotties? When did that happen?

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    That was before the shrews took over.
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  115. @Tyrion 2
    Have you read the article? It is pretty clearly about Muslims. There are no more than a handful of German anti-Semites anyway - of course all 3 of them are Unz.com regulars...

    It also won't happen.

    >it’s pretty clearly about Muslims
    And here we illustrate how smart folks can be dumb. They can make anything logical. History ain’t logical, history is reality.
    I am not satisfied with it “almost certainly” being about Muslims. Sea lawyer that I am, I would derive great peace of mind from these Muslim-coddlers actually taking the time of doing the courtesy of spelling that out explicitly — especially given their official and long-standing policies, and other enormous problems you do not seem to be aware of (so I clearly implied them for you in the last comment, being a sweetheart) — as well as explaining how such a tremendous shift in understanding would require specific changes in procedure.
    tldr They do not go after Muslims — they do not so much as blame Muslims — except when they really have to, they have a well-evidenced racist bias against any whites who look like they might be thought criminals, and sending cops into a Muslim fortress/neighborhood to steal a Muslim’s child is something you might want to consult with a Fallujah vet about in re the wisdom thereof.
    >there are only a few actual anti-Semites
    I like how you get to pretend you know absolutely nothing about the modern German establishment. I agree with you that genuine anti-Semites are quite rare. Do you believe that the German government believes that?
    >they won’t do it
    They do it on a regular basis — when the parents are white thought criminals. They have done it to people in America. You are right that they will never do it to Muslims, for the reasons I gave.

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  116. @Anon 2
    "Vienna had more famous Jews than Poland"

    This argument fails to consider many factors. Let me just
    focus on two:

    1. Poland did not exist as an independent country for 200 years,
    from 1795 (Last Partition) to 1989 (Overthrow of Marxism-Leninism),
    except during the 20 year interwar period. Austria in the late 19th
    century was a powerful empire with excellent universities. Poland's
    universities were shut down by the Romanov-ruled Russia (90%
    German). I have a soft spot for the Hapsburgs who were Catholic
    like Poland and allowed the Jagiellonian University in Cracow and
    the Lvov University to remain open. Both places made enormous
    contributions to mathematics.

    You cannot have famous people without a healthy intellectual ecosystem
    incl. universities, libraries, archives, bookstores, publishers, etc. These
    were systematically shut down, destroyed or underfunded in partitioned
    Poland. I'm sorry Steve but to understand Jewish history in Europe you
    need to improve your knowledge of Eastern European history. By the way,
    speaking of fame, most of Israel's Prime Ministers were born either in
    Poland or the former Commonwealth, incl. Ben-Gurion and Menachem Begin
    (Real name: Mieczysław Biegun). Netanyahu's real name is Mileikowski.
    That was his father's real name, and he was born in Warsaw.

    2. The Jews in Poland, i.e., Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, were mostly
    Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox, with little interest in secular learning. For
    example, Hasidism originated in the 18th century in the Polish-Lithuanian
    Commonwealth in what today is called western Ukraine which was part
    of the Polish cultural sphere. Let's not forget that even Kiev was a Polish-ruled
    city for 150-200 years. The Ultra-Orthodox originated in Poland, are very
    influential in Israel, and IMHO are the future of Judaism in the U.S., if only
    because of their extremely high birthrates.

    These are pilpul. “Austrian Jews” are largely Polish Jews subjected to a totally different culture, with decisively different results. Polish nobles were interested in religious liberty and squeezed-flat peasants, and that’s what they got. Russians thought this same population should be neither seen nor heard, and that dictated results. A brilliant Jewish inventor in the Pale would bring attention, and that could be downright dangerous. Austro-Hungarian monarches perhaps came closest prior to the modern world in believing in multi-kulti and making it work, and they got objectively great results from that.

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    There was nowhere smart (and "enlightened") Jews in the Pale could go, compared to Vienna in Austria or various German cities. Cites in conquered Poland became nowheresvilles and they were full of country-cousin types of Jews anyway, so the ones who wanted to break into Western learning went elsewhere.

    This is not to contradict anything you've said, of course.
    , @Anon 2
    And Austria-Hungary collapsed due to its extreme
    multiculturalism during WW I. The Slavs and the Italians
    didn't exactly enjoy being subjugated by the Austrians.
    They wanted to follow their own destiny, not Austria's destiny.
    Would the Austrians have enjoyed being subjugated by the
    Polish and the Czechs? The Slovaks didn't enjoy being
    subjugated by the Hungarians for almost 1000 years either.
    Each nation, and each person, has its own specific destiny
    that they yearn to follow. Standard advice to young people
    is, "Don't try to live someone else's life! Live your own life"

    Many people, for example within Catholicism, pursue a path
    of holiness, which involves transcending the ego - the opposite
    of trying to become rich and famous, the path that the HBD types
    love so much. Others may be focused on reaching Buddhist
    enlightenment. Orthodox and Ultraorthodox Jews try to obey
    God's commandments, and in the process have 5-6 kids and
    eschew contact with modernity. Who is to say they are wrong?
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  117. @syonredux
    So much fascinating stuff in this piece....


    I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion

    Over almost seven years and two serious relationships with Jewish men who at first said religion didn’t matter — and then backtracked and decided it did — I’ve optimistically begun interfaith relationships with an open mind twice, only to become the last woman these men dated before settling down with a nice Jewish girl.
     

    I can now say with certainty that I am tired of being a Jewish man’s rebellion.
     

    At first glance, I fulfill the stereotypes of a white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP). I’m blond, often wear pearls and can mix an excellent, and very strong, martini. Manners and etiquette are important to me, and when I’m stressed, I often cope by cleaning. I do describe myself as Christian, but loosely and in the most liberal sense possible. I don’t discuss my faith the first time I meet someone or on first dates. But if I find myself falling for someone who does not share my spiritual views, I bring up the subject. If it’s going to be a problem, I want to know.

     


    That’s exactly what I did in my previous long-term relationships, both of which were with Jewish men. And both men said it wasn’t a problem that I was Christian, as they considered themselves culturally, but not spiritually, Jewish. At the very least, they were the most lackadaisical Jews I’d ever met. They never fasted on Yom Kippur or observed Jewish holidays on their own. And when they traveled to celebrate holidays with their families, they made it clear it was an obligation rather than a choice. On more than one occasion in conversation, we laughed about the fact that I knew more about the Jewish faith than they did.
     

    For the first few of the years I was dating these men, the fact that I was not Jewish rarely came up. My boyfriends helped decorate my Christmas trees, attended parties hosted by my friends from church, and their parents seemed to like me. I loved learning more about Judaism and sometimes even reminded them when certain holidays were approaching. When a spam email showed up in my account advertising a service to help me “Find Sincere Jewish Singles In Your Area!” I laughed and forwarded it to my boyfriend at the time, saying: “I think I’ve got that covered.”
     

    Sure, there were some tense moments in these relationships. One of their mothers was extremely overbearing, somehow getting my cellphone number and calling me, asking where her son was. I didn’t know where he was, and her calling me made me incredibly uncomfortable. I asked my boyfriend how she got my number — he swore he didn’t give it to her — and told him I didn’t want this kind of involvement to be part of our relationship. When he talked to her about it, she exploded, yelling, “If she were Jewish, she’d understand!” I wasn’t invited to the seders that his family held, despite my saying I had loved attending them with my friends. There were times at church that I saw couples worshiping together and felt pangs of jealousy. But I told myself every relationship had its problems and these were relatively minor.

     


    These issues weren’t there at first, but they started to appear after some time had passed and we were already in love. After years of dating, religion was suddenly a problem when it never had been before. I didn’t understand where it was coming from, and they weren’t able to explain it.
     

    Not being Jewish was not the official reason either of these relationships ended. There were other problems — money, careers and plans for the future — problems I wanted to at least try to work through. But when I tried to talk about them, somehow the fact that I wasn’t Jewish came up — even in conversations that had nothing to do with family or children. When I asked, “What does that have to do with this?” they didn’t — or couldn’t — answer and kept talking about Judaism.
     

    After we broke up, both men went on to find serious partners who were, in fact, Jewish. And while I try not to look back after a relationship ends, to go full-on Carrie Bradshaw, I couldn’t help but wonder if this was not just a coincidence but a pattern I should pay attention to. I didn’t doubt the love we’d had for each other, and I knew religion was one of the top reasons couples break up. But why did they say it didn’t matter and then decide it did — and find partners who fit the description they said they weren’t actually looking for?
     

    I guess dating me had been their last act of defiance against cultural or familial expectations before finding someone who warranted their parents’ approval — perhaps the equivalent of a woman dating a motorcycle-driving, leather-jacket wearing “bad boy” before settling down with a banker with a 9-5 job. I now half-jokingly consider myself a Jewish man’s rebellion and guard myself against again landing in that role.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2018/03/29/i-am-tired-of-being-a-jewish-mans-rebellion/?utm_term=.03df9e996ba5



    The reaction to her article has been most interesting.....

    'She Was Trying on a Culture': Why Jews Are Fuming at Washington Post Essay Lamenting Jewish Boyfriend
    The anger sparked by the article in which a WASP complains about two failed relationships with Jewish boyfriends shows that, in 2018, perceived anti-Semitism strikes a highly sensitive nerve
     

    As expected, there was a huge social media backlash – and more than one scathing satire piece – sneering comically at her millennial solipsism and the fact that in a world where intermarriage is rampant, she could be so blind to the fact that these guys were just not that into her. There were plenty of jokes to that end, and also many referring to the decision to publish the piece on Passover, picking on Jews at a time when they’re deprived of their favorite comfort cuisine.
     

    But the red-hot intensity and anger sparked by the essay was unique to 2018 – a time in which Jews are attuned to anti-Semitism at a higher level than they have been in decades.

    They have good reason. For two years, over the course of the Trump campaign and presidency, a newly empowered alt-right movement of white nationalists has relentlessly flooded social media with its racist, anti-Semitic bile. And following the Harvey Weinstein scandal and other #MeToo cases involving Jewish men, numerous memes depicted ugly, white supremacist stereotypes of Jewish men defiling, abusing and discarding innocent white, Christian women. Beyond the internet, young men marched chanting the Nazi slogan “Blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us!” in Charlottesville; an actual Nazi is the Republican nominee for an Illinois congressional seat; and there has been a spike in anti-Semitic attacks in the United States.
     

    She didn’t directly invoke the racist archetype of the opportunistic and lustful Jewish man preying on innocent “shiksas,” just as she didn’t overtly state that, unlike herself, Jewish women are rude, messy and don’t know how to mix martinis.
     

    But neither did the existence of such anti-Semitic imagery – and the charged atmosphere of the moment – stop her from writing an article that portrayed her as the hapless blond, Christian, disposable plaything of callous Jewish men.
     

    One imagines that she (and her editors at the Post) may have thought twice before publishing a rant implying her mistreatment at the hands of nonwhite ex-boyfriends and their black, Latino or Muslim families.

     

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-hitting-a-nerve-with-a-sledgehammer-1.5975152

    WRITER OF JEWISH DATING OP-ED IN WASHINGTON POST APOLOGIZES
    Casey Purcell’s essay on swearing off Jewish men sparks ire online.

     


    New York Times writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner wondered if “maybe these Jewish men aren’t leaving you because you’re not Jewish as much as they’re leaving you because you hate Jews?” And Helen Rosner, a writer for The New Yorker, tweeted that “it’s definitely not super racist and pathologically narcissistic to write an op-ed in a major newspaper about how you’re done dating people of one specific religion, no sirree bob.”

     

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Writer-of-Jewish-dating-op-ed-in-Washington-Post-apologizes-547830

    She’s going to get pretty much the same sympathy from Jewish women, as black women have for Nicole Brown Simpson.

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  118. @EdwardM
    I have traveled pretty extensively in India and lived in the Gulf region and have never once seen a woman who looks like the light-skinned Bollywood beauties. (Compared to, say, New York, Montreal, or Paris, where women of movie-star quality looks are a dime a dozen walking down the street. And I've seen plenty in China, too, especially Chengdu.)

    Why is that? Are the tails on the bell curve (the upper tail, that is) for attractiveness that much thinner in India? Are the Bollywood actresses' looks fake? Maybe the types of beauty enhancements that normally attractive women practice in the West are less available to the masses in India. Maybe the standards for Bollywood are higher, inasmuch as there is a wider variety of looks that qualify for stardom among white women in the U.S. than in India. Certainly the percentage of women who make a career based on looks is higher in the U.S.

    Or maybe I am just imagining things.

    You aren’t the first to have noticed this.

    https://www.singledudetravel.com/2013/12/indias-shocking-lack-of-attractive-women/

    Basically poor nutrition, sanitation, and poverty combined with darker skin tones results in decidedly mediocre looking women. Add in all this with Muslim derived habit of female seclusion from public spaces means that most native Indian women do not even try to look fashionable. Since you lived in the Gulf, you should be aware of the American levels of heifers that pass for norm among Arab women. One of the unfortunate downsides of Sharia law that keeps women in doors makes cooking and eating the only real available social activity. Hence among why among the Arabs the women are so much more prone to obesity than the men while it is generally the inverse everywhere else. India suffers from this as well though obviously to a lesser degree.

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  119. @jacques sheete

    So, China has all the same types of women that America does. Maybe the types are universal.
     
    American beauties, cuties and hotties? When did that happen?

    That was before the shrews took over.

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  120. @Hodag
    As you know Guadong was described in English as Canton. Canton was the one spot in China where the rest of the world was allowed to trade with China. There was a three hundred yard wide strip of land where Western merchants could set up shop. One speculates that there was selection pressure to create a trading caste, one that exists throughout the world now. Amy Chua's people. The Taiping Rebellian helped disburse those folks as well.

    Oh so it’s our fault, is it?

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  121. @Anonym
    I haven’t seen this brought up yet, the hierarchy I have seen is
    “She is beautiful.”
    “She is cute.”
    “She is an excellent calligrapher.” (= she is cultured)
    “She is a good Communist.”


    Where does "She has a great sense of humor" or "She has a great personality" fit in the hierarchy?

    The idea is that all of these are evaluating physical beauty.

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    The idea is that all of these are evaluating physical beauty.

    I realise that. Usually if a female friend tries to set you up with a girl with a great personality or sense of humor it is because she is not beautiful or even cute.
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  122. @J.Ross
    The idea is that all of these are evaluating physical beauty.

    The idea is that all of these are evaluating physical beauty.

    I realise that. Usually if a female friend tries to set you up with a girl with a great personality or sense of humor it is because she is not beautiful or even cute.

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  123. @EdwardM
    I have traveled pretty extensively in India and lived in the Gulf region and have never once seen a woman who looks like the light-skinned Bollywood beauties. (Compared to, say, New York, Montreal, or Paris, where women of movie-star quality looks are a dime a dozen walking down the street. And I've seen plenty in China, too, especially Chengdu.)

    Why is that? Are the tails on the bell curve (the upper tail, that is) for attractiveness that much thinner in India? Are the Bollywood actresses' looks fake? Maybe the types of beauty enhancements that normally attractive women practice in the West are less available to the masses in India. Maybe the standards for Bollywood are higher, inasmuch as there is a wider variety of looks that qualify for stardom among white women in the U.S. than in India. Certainly the percentage of women who make a career based on looks is higher in the U.S.

    Or maybe I am just imagining things.

    With a billion people there will be some diamonds among the coal.

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    I will tell myself this if I ever find myself under a rib-snapping quantity of coal.
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  124. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    These are pilpul. "Austrian Jews" are largely Polish Jews subjected to a totally different culture, with decisively different results. Polish nobles were interested in religious liberty and squeezed-flat peasants, and that's what they got. Russians thought this same population should be neither seen nor heard, and that dictated results. A brilliant Jewish inventor in the Pale would bring attention, and that could be downright dangerous. Austro-Hungarian monarches perhaps came closest prior to the modern world in believing in multi-kulti and making it work, and they got objectively great results from that.

    There was nowhere smart (and “enlightened”) Jews in the Pale could go, compared to Vienna in Austria or various German cities. Cites in conquered Poland became nowheresvilles and they were full of country-cousin types of Jews anyway, so the ones who wanted to break into Western learning went elsewhere.

    This is not to contradict anything you’ve said, of course.

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    Yes but this was racist policy, not lack of either achievement or cities in Russia, it was literally not being welcome.
    , @Anon 2
    And how did this vaunted scientific and technological
    superiority work out for Austria and Germany anyway?
    Both have been reduced to tiny countries - Austria to
    one-third its former size and Germany to the size of Poland.
    In Germany's case most people live as close as
    possible to the border with Holland, France, and Switzerland,
    and as far as possible from the underpopulated East.
    At the same time the Slavs, treated with contempt
    by Germans and Jews alike, 240 million strong compared
    to only 120 million Germanics, occupy a vast territory stretching
    from the Oder-Neisse rivers all the way to Vladivostok.
    Who is the loser here? Doesn't it confirm that "The meek shall
    inherit the earth"?

    Not a single country outside Europe speaks German. At the same time,
    Spain and Portugal, with only a minimal interest in science and
    technology, almost effortlessly conquered vast new territories
    and seduced them with their language and culture. I use the term
    "seduction" on purpose. Soft power is primarily the power of
    seduction . And the Germanics are almost completely clueless in the
    seduction department. You can ask the Polish about that. You certainly
    don't do it with science. Science shows the Universe as cold,
    cruel, and indifferent to our fate. Good luck seducing people
    with that.
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  125. @Anonym
    With a billion people there will be some diamonds among the coal.

    I will tell myself this if I ever find myself under a rib-snapping quantity of coal.

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    I will tell myself this if I ever find myself under a rib-snapping quantity of coal.

    Just don't burn it or you will pay the toll.
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  126. @Anon
    There was nowhere smart (and "enlightened") Jews in the Pale could go, compared to Vienna in Austria or various German cities. Cites in conquered Poland became nowheresvilles and they were full of country-cousin types of Jews anyway, so the ones who wanted to break into Western learning went elsewhere.

    This is not to contradict anything you've said, of course.

    Yes but this was racist policy, not lack of either achievement or cities in Russia, it was literally not being welcome.

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  127. @J.Ross
    These are pilpul. "Austrian Jews" are largely Polish Jews subjected to a totally different culture, with decisively different results. Polish nobles were interested in religious liberty and squeezed-flat peasants, and that's what they got. Russians thought this same population should be neither seen nor heard, and that dictated results. A brilliant Jewish inventor in the Pale would bring attention, and that could be downright dangerous. Austro-Hungarian monarches perhaps came closest prior to the modern world in believing in multi-kulti and making it work, and they got objectively great results from that.

    And Austria-Hungary collapsed due to its extreme
    multiculturalism during WW I. The Slavs and the Italians
    didn’t exactly enjoy being subjugated by the Austrians.
    They wanted to follow their own destiny, not Austria’s destiny.
    Would the Austrians have enjoyed being subjugated by the
    Polish and the Czechs? The Slovaks didn’t enjoy being
    subjugated by the Hungarians for almost 1000 years either.
    Each nation, and each person, has its own specific destiny
    that they yearn to follow. Standard advice to young people
    is, “Don’t try to live someone else’s life! Live your own life”

    Many people, for example within Catholicism, pursue a path
    of holiness, which involves transcending the ego – the opposite
    of trying to become rich and famous, the path that the HBD types
    love so much. Others may be focused on reaching Buddhist
    enlightenment. Orthodox and Ultraorthodox Jews try to obey
    God’s commandments, and in the process have 5-6 kids and
    eschew contact with modernity. Who is to say they are wrong?

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  128. In general, people living today in highly industrialized countries,
    products of all the discoveries and inventions that HBD types
    rhapsodize about, love science and technology so much that
    they are basically giving up on life – they essentially stopped
    having children and leave the study of science and engineering
    to foreigners. We live in the age of stagnation. All the low-
    hanging fruit has been picked and new discoveries don’t
    translate into gains in productivity. The Age of Genius is over.
    True, medicine is making our life a bit more comfortable and
    the process of dying a little less painful but I think we have reached
    what I would call Peak Science. A couple of examples:

    1. Americans are so disgusted with science and technology that
    the study of those subjects at universities is, like strawberry picking,
    increasingly left to foreigners from poor countries. About 50%
    of Ph.D.s in STEM these days are awarded to foreign-born students;

    2. The revolt against the social media like Facebook is a tsunami that’s
    gaining momentum before our very eyes. Many are abandoning smart
    phones and going back to simple fold-up phones;

    3. The opioid epidemic, essentially a symptom of the atomization of society
    brought on by science and technology, shows no signs of slowing down.
    People see no future for themselves or their children. And what about
    the legalization of marijuana? Doesn’t pot smoking amount to self-
    medication designed to assuage the existential pain so many are
    experiencing?

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  129. @Anon
    There was nowhere smart (and "enlightened") Jews in the Pale could go, compared to Vienna in Austria or various German cities. Cites in conquered Poland became nowheresvilles and they were full of country-cousin types of Jews anyway, so the ones who wanted to break into Western learning went elsewhere.

    This is not to contradict anything you've said, of course.

    And how did this vaunted scientific and technological
    superiority work out for Austria and Germany anyway?
    Both have been reduced to tiny countries – Austria to
    one-third its former size and Germany to the size of Poland.
    In Germany’s case most people live as close as
    possible to the border with Holland, France, and Switzerland,
    and as far as possible from the underpopulated East.
    At the same time the Slavs, treated with contempt
    by Germans and Jews alike, 240 million strong compared
    to only 120 million Germanics, occupy a vast territory stretching
    from the Oder-Neisse rivers all the way to Vladivostok.
    Who is the loser here? Doesn’t it confirm that “The meek shall
    inherit the earth”?

    Not a single country outside Europe speaks German. At the same time,
    Spain and Portugal, with only a minimal interest in science and
    technology, almost effortlessly conquered vast new territories
    and seduced them with their language and culture. I use the term
    “seduction” on purpose. Soft power is primarily the power of
    seduction . And the Germanics are almost completely clueless in the
    seduction department. You can ask the Polish about that. You certainly
    don’t do it with science. Science shows the Universe as cold,
    cruel, and indifferent to our fate. Good luck seducing people
    with that.

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    Totally agree. The soft seduction of Spain and Portugal was the Roman Catholic Church. Syrian Roman catholic monks made it to China in the 200s AD even before Christianity was legalized. Monks from Byzantium under orders from emperor Justinian in the 500s AD when Byzantium was still Roman not eastern catholic.

    There were ex bishops in China in early and middle medieval times who regularly made the 4 year round trip to Rome and back

    It was the Catholic Church that conquered Latin America and the south west Catholic Church, not the soldiers.

    The only Protestant church that made inroads on the non Whites of the world were American Methodists in China until the mid 20th century when American evangelicals began to have great success in Latin America.

    American high schools stopped teaching German 70 years ago and now teach mostly Spanish. Many school district have stopped teaching even French.

    All European schools from first grade on now teach English, not even the former European universal
    Language French any more.

    Then there is the fact that Germany, not Austria has stupidly committed itself to giving billions of Euros a year to the descendants of holicaust survivorr forever and ever until the world ends.
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  130. Perhaps the Chinese movie industry is full of vulgar but energetic movie producers from Guangdong with names like Harb Won-ton who are notorious for casting / hitting on all the non-Guangdong actresses?

    I suspect it is the sinitic ancestry

    LOL.

    OT: Innumerate CNN presstitute, who implies the Holocaust happened in the 1950s, brags about Jewish hegemony. “Even Donald Trump won’t double down when accused of anti-semitism.”

    True; I do have bigger balls than Trump.

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  131. Anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @1661er
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2017/11/02/is-he-interested-in-me-or-does-he-just-want-hamilton-tickets/?utm_term=.b9c6eecceea5

    I would love to meet a man who enjoys seeing theater and would appreciate all of the dates we’d go on together — not just “Hamilton.” One of the musical’s most famous lyrics states: “I am not throwing away my shot.” I wish these men would realize that when they ask if I can get them tickets, they have already thrown away theirs.
     
    Just 5 months ago she was complaining about men trying to date her for her access to "Hamilton" tickets. At some point, if no men are interested in her for her own sake, wether is to rebel against their upbringing, or to score hot Broadway tickets, etc.? Maybe there were one common denominator, her.

    So Washington Poop, one of the allegedly premier newspapers of the world regularly publishes this woman’s stories of her dating experiences,

    Why isn’t she writing for glamour and cosmopolitan, 2 magazines aimed at 18 to 35 year old heteronormative unmarried women with jobs or in college, not single moms on welfare who are out in the dating world?

    Those and other magazines would be more appropriate for these stories of a moderate income youngish single woman’s love life.

    Maybe cosmo and glamour should start publishing “ intellectual” articles by Jewish Harvard poli sci PHDs advocating bombing the entire Middle East from Morocco to Iran to pieces so God’s Chosen can walk in and take over with a few trillion dollars and euros extorted from the goyim.

    Anyway who under the age of 70 reads newspapers except to see what the enemy is up to as Ron Unz and Steve do?

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  132. Anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @1661er
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2017/11/02/is-he-interested-in-me-or-does-he-just-want-hamilton-tickets/?utm_term=.b9c6eecceea5

    I would love to meet a man who enjoys seeing theater and would appreciate all of the dates we’d go on together — not just “Hamilton.” One of the musical’s most famous lyrics states: “I am not throwing away my shot.” I wish these men would realize that when they ask if I can get them tickets, they have already thrown away theirs.
     
    Just 5 months ago she was complaining about men trying to date her for her access to "Hamilton" tickets. At some point, if no men are interested in her for her own sake, wether is to rebel against their upbringing, or to score hot Broadway tickets, etc.? Maybe there were one common denominator, her.

    I’m beginning to wonder if this woman actually dates or does things with men at all. I and my friends dated a lot, so do my single daughters and their friends. It’s almost always a mutual thing. Most people first talk about and agree on something to do.

    For instance, I don’t go to a good friends weirdo intellectual plays end even worse modernistic weirdo operas and she doesn’t go to country western concerts with me.

    Anyone agree with me on this? Does she or does she not really date? Or as most lifestyle reporters do, just make it all up?.

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  133. Anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon 2
    And how did this vaunted scientific and technological
    superiority work out for Austria and Germany anyway?
    Both have been reduced to tiny countries - Austria to
    one-third its former size and Germany to the size of Poland.
    In Germany's case most people live as close as
    possible to the border with Holland, France, and Switzerland,
    and as far as possible from the underpopulated East.
    At the same time the Slavs, treated with contempt
    by Germans and Jews alike, 240 million strong compared
    to only 120 million Germanics, occupy a vast territory stretching
    from the Oder-Neisse rivers all the way to Vladivostok.
    Who is the loser here? Doesn't it confirm that "The meek shall
    inherit the earth"?

    Not a single country outside Europe speaks German. At the same time,
    Spain and Portugal, with only a minimal interest in science and
    technology, almost effortlessly conquered vast new territories
    and seduced them with their language and culture. I use the term
    "seduction" on purpose. Soft power is primarily the power of
    seduction . And the Germanics are almost completely clueless in the
    seduction department. You can ask the Polish about that. You certainly
    don't do it with science. Science shows the Universe as cold,
    cruel, and indifferent to our fate. Good luck seducing people
    with that.

    Totally agree. The soft seduction of Spain and Portugal was the Roman Catholic Church. Syrian Roman catholic monks made it to China in the 200s AD even before Christianity was legalized. Monks from Byzantium under orders from emperor Justinian in the 500s AD when Byzantium was still Roman not eastern catholic.

    There were ex bishops in China in early and middle medieval times who regularly made the 4 year round trip to Rome and back

    It was the Catholic Church that conquered Latin America and the south west Catholic Church, not the soldiers.

    The only Protestant church that made inroads on the non Whites of the world were American Methodists in China until the mid 20th century when American evangelicals began to have great success in Latin America.

    American high schools stopped teaching German 70 years ago and now teach mostly Spanish. Many school district have stopped teaching even French.

    All European schools from first grade on now teach English, not even the former European universal
    Language French any more.

    Then there is the fact that Germany, not Austria has stupidly committed itself to giving billions of Euros a year to the descendants of holicaust survivorr forever and ever until the world ends.

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  134. @J.Ross
    I will tell myself this if I ever find myself under a rib-snapping quantity of coal.

    I will tell myself this if I ever find myself under a rib-snapping quantity of coal.

    Just don’t burn it or you will pay the toll.

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  135. @Tyrion 2
    Have you read the article? It is pretty clearly about Muslims. There are no more than a handful of German anti-Semites anyway - of course all 3 of them are Unz.com regulars...

    It also won't happen.

    Deserves a LOL, but I don’t one available for another 20 minutes or so.

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  136. @Anon 2
    After the Jews were expelled from Western Europe and
    found refuge in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
    (by 1550 about 90% of the Ashkenazis lived there), Poland
    became known in Europe as Paradisus Iudaeorum (Jewish
    Paradise). And indeed even in the 1920s-30s hundreds of
    thousands of Jews were fleeing from the Soviet Union and
    Germany, and seeking refuge in Poland. Isaac Bashevis
    Singer wrote ( in Yiddish) how wonderful it was to be Jewish
    in Poland in the early 20th century. Read his memoirs of
    growing up in Warsaw. By the way, he barely spoke Polish,
    just like the Hasidic teenage boys in today's Brooklyn can barely
    speak English.

    Too bad Poland wasn’t paradise to majority of Polish people.

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