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The NYT finally reports on the New Year’s Eve gropefest in downtown Cologne. The Köln train station is kind of the front door of Germany for travelers coming from England and the Netherlands. I changed trains there in 1980 and had two minutes to step outside and gaze at in awe at the great cathedral, which is likely Germany’s most visited landmark.

Reports of Attacks on Women in Germany Heighten Tension Over Migrants
By MELISSA EDDY JAN. 5, 2016 1147 COMMENTS

BERLIN — The tensions simmering beneath Germany’s willingness to take in one million migrants blew into the open on Tuesday after reports that scores of young women in Cologne had been groped and robbed on New Year’s Eve by gangs of men described by the authorities as having “a North African or Arabic” appearance.

Taking advantage of the New Year’s Eve street party, hundreds of young men broke into groups and formed rings around young women, refusing to let them escape, the authorities said. Some groped victims while others stole wallets or cellphones.

Witnesses described the atmosphere around the city’s central train station as aggressive and threatening, with firecrackers being thrown into the crowd in celebration.

I suspect that what the Muslim newcomers would prefer to do to celebrate is not to throw wimpy firecrackers into crowds, but to follow their time-honored tradition of firing AK-47s into the air. From Wikipedia:

Celebratory gunfire (also called aerial firing or happy fire) is the shooting of a firearm into the air in celebration. It is culturally accepted in parts of the Balkans, the Middle East, the Central Asian region of Afghanistan, the South Asian regions of Pakistan and Northern India as well as Latin American regions. In regions such as Puerto Rico and other areas of the United States it is practiced illegally, especially on holidays like New Year’s Eve.[1]

Common occasions for celebratory gunfire include New Year’s Day as well as the religious holidays Christmas and Eid.[2] The practice may result in random death and injury from stray bullets. Property damage is sometimes another result of celebratory gunfire; shattered windows and damaged roofs are often found after such celebrations.[3]

Isn’t it time that Europe stop discriminating against this vibrant cultural expression with its racist gun control laws?

From the NYT:

It was not clear that any of the men involved were among those who arrived in Germany over the past year from conflicts in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. …

The assaults initially were not highlighted by the police and largely ignored by the German news media in the days afterward.

The attacks and the livid reaction to them presented a new political challenge for the chancellor, whose decision to take in refugees from conflict-ridden nations opened the doors to waves of migrants last summer and fall. As the number of asylum-seekers has grown and the challenge of assimilating them has become clearer, Ms. Merkel has come under intensifying criticism for failing to anticipate the social and economic costs of her policy.

The descriptions of the assailants — by the police and victims quoted in the news media — as being young foreign men who spoke neither German nor English immediately stoked the debate over how to integrate such large numbers of migrants and focused new attention on how to deal with the influx of young, mostly Muslim men from more socially conservative cultures where women do not share the same freedoms and protections as men.

The assaults set off accusations on the right and among some political commentators that the authorities and the news media had tried to ignore or cover up the attacks to avoid fueling a backlash against the refugees. …

Even beyond the usual circle of anti-immigration activists, similar concern could be heard over whether the government’s policy had come at too high a price to social stability.

“The government’s loss of control is not only taking place on the borders,” Alexander Marguier, deputy editor in chief of the monthly political magazine Cicero, wrote online. “For whoever gives up control of who enters the country no longer has control over the consequences of this action.” …

The police in Cologne say they believe several hundred men, ages 15 to 35 and visibly drunk, were involved in the violence that began when they tossed firecrackers into the crowd that thronged the square.

… “Nobody knew where to go,” Sascha Frohn, who said he was in the station on Thursday, told the public broadcaster WDR. “We stood with our backs to the wall and could see how people were robbed and German girls were groped. I was surrounded by a group of 50 to 60 people from Arabic countries. They would come up to us, shake hands and then try to reach into our bags.” …

Yet the commentary, by Heribert Prantl, also warned against the risks of the debate taking on a poisonous tone that would only make integration of the many young refugees and immigrants legitimately in the country that much more difficult. …

To prevent further violence in Cologne during the coming Carnival celebrations, when thousands of costumed revelers throng the streets for the beginning of Lent, Ms. Reker said that city officials would work to help women protect themselves and to explain the city’s attitudes and norms to newcomers.

“We will explain our Carnival much better to people who come from other cultures,” she said, “so there won’t be any confusion about what constitutes celebratory behavior in Cologne, which has nothing to do with a sexual frankness.”

Actually, it does.

Maybe the mayor of Cologne should explain to the Saracens that a certain amount of sexual frankness (i.e., women not being locked up in harems) is a big part of being Franks and has been since we Franks arrived in Cologne a few centuries before Charlemagne and Charles Martel. Do not forget that you are the ferengi here, and our hospitality is not mindlessly unlimited.

 
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  1. Shiite, now I’ve seen everything.

    BUSINESSMEN erect a GOLD statue of MAO.

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/afp-giant-statue-for-chinas-chairman-mao-2016-1

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    https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/684351993423368192
    , @Anonymous
    giant mao = $460,000
    giant mlk = $120,000,000

    wonders of ferengi monumental art.
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  2. What the mayoress did was to publish new guidelines for women on how to behave. She would never dare say something about the migrants.

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    • Replies: @Seamus

    What the mayoress did was to publish new guidelines for women on how to behave.
     
    Imagine what would happen if, instead of "teaching men not to rape," an American college president dared to offer such guidelines as a way to stem the epidemic of campus rapes. (Perhaps I should have said "epidemic".)
    , @ben tillman

    “The suggested code of conduct includes maintaining an arm’s length distance from strangers, to stick within your own group…"
     
    And that's actually amazingly good advice for a nation as well.
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  3. [quote]and our hospitality is not mindlessly unlimited.[/quote]

    Except it is.

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  4. Wonderful city, much better than Berlin or Hamburg. Too bad it is overrun by 3rd world trash now.

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  5. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    When people from that part of the world come to the West, they have contradictory passions.

    1. Contempt. “These women are shameless whores in the obscene decadent west.”

    2. Boing!!!!! “Finally, we can have massive orgies and screw anyone in sight cuz they’re just begging for it”… or at least that’s what they’ve seen from Western media that promote and hype the likes of Nikki Minaj, Kim Kartrashian, Miley Cyrus, and etc.

    If space aliens were to learn about the West from the pop culture media, they would get the impression that Western women are all whores who are just dying for some action. From rappers, they’d think normal male behavior in the West is to act like thugs. They’d think the West is one big BEASTIE BOYS party. Of course, in people in the West take that stuff with a degree of irony and fun.

    Can’t really blame Muslim men for thinking western women are a bunch of hookers. Just look at the pop culture.
    Muslim men have been Joe-Buck-ized.

    But people in other cultures(with far less sense of irony) see it as reality, even a ‘right to party’.
    I knew an Assyrian family that left Kuwait after the Gulf War. Ironically, they sided with Hussein’s invasion and then found refuge in the US that destroyed Hussein. Wacky, I know.
    But anyway, their three sons had such passion for American trash culture. But at the same time, their old world values felt nothing but contempt for western whores.
    They are happy to be in the land of whores and treat women like whores, but they also feel nothing but derision for these women.

    But to some degree, I think Bob Dylan felt it too. In some ways, he was very modern and cosmopolitan. But there was another side of him that was near-Biblical and family-oriented.

    [MORE]

    It’s partly there in PORTNOY”S COMPLAINT too. On the one hand, there is the ‘boing’ for the shiksa. But there is also the powerful pull of Jewish culture and the tribe. The Jewish guy hooks up with some shiksa bimbo and is happy to bang her… but also despises her as a slut dolt trash.
    Sort of like what happens with the Sydney Pollack character in Husbands and Wives.
    Initially, he likes the bimbo shiksa but comes to feel contempt for her as a bimbo who thinks King Lear is King Leo.

    Jews don’t go around raping and groping like crude and barbaric Muslims do.
    But given their control of porn industry and what they’ve done to Disney(creating the likes of Britney, Aguilera, Cyrus, etc), I’d say their view of white women isn’t all that respectable either. They degrade white women through control of culture and ideas.
    And more than Muslim bad behavior, I find stuff like this even more offensive and damaging in the long run:

    http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2016/1/5/appropriated

    And the problem is with white males too. I mean who forced them to be a bunch of cucks? The phenom of ‘cuckoldry’ as documented in Details magazine and Vice documentary shows that, in some ways, white males are sicker than Muslims for they get off on their own racial demise and humiliation.

    I think a horny young Muslim man groping a young woman(prolly dressed like a whore), as boorish and crude as it is, is less sick and demented than white guys who get off watching Negroes hump their wives on their own beds.

    So, do white men have any right to condemn others for sickness?

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    Good stuff, my man. And with video interludes. White men definitely need to toughen up.... next 10 years will tell the tale imo
    , @Jefferson
    "I think a horny young Muslim man groping a young woman(prolly dressed like a whore),"

    Muslim men's definition of a "whore" is any woman who is not wearing traditional female Islamic clothing like a niqab, hijab, or a burka. So pretty much all Non Muslim women in the world are "whores" to them. Anon your mother would be a whore to them as well if she is not dressed in what Islamic law defines as appropriate clothing for women to be seen with in public.
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  6. For the past few decades the Germans have asked for multiculturalism, and now they’re getting it – good and hard.

    Exactly how much more of this outrageous behaviour will the Germans tolerate before they take decisive action against the underlying cause? Much, much more, if the Mayor of Cologne is in any sort of guide.

    God help the women of Germany (Merkel and friends excepted).

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    • Replies: @anon
    Exactly how much more of this outrageous behaviour will the Germans tolerate before they take decisive action against the underlying cause?

    Considering that, the more evidence comes in that this was a terrible mistake, the more they double down on it...

    I really don't know how to answer that question.

    , @anon

    For the past few decades the Germans have asked for multiculturalism, and now they’re getting it – good and hard.
     
    This is just a lie.

    The media have imposed this on the West by promoting those in favor and attacking anyone who opposed it.

    Did the US ask for same sex marriage or WWT? No they didn't - the media imposed it.
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  7. ““We will explain our Carnival much better to people who come from other cultures,” she said, “so there won’t be any confusion about what constitutes celebratory behavior in Cologne, which has nothing to do with a sexual frankness.”

    Actually, it does.””

    Well, that’s kind of the crux of the matter. Germans want to have fun. Not your kind of fun.

    (Please don’t make me explain because that would make me look stupid. Please, please, take this hint!!!)

    Oh well. Let the contradictions be enhanced. They won’t have much luck covering things up these days. One hopes.

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  8. I remember back in the late 80s when West Germany had more tanks in the Heer than it had for Operation Barbarossa and also had tactical nukes. Norweigian TV also had a show recently about a Russian occupation of Norway.

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  9. I wonder what would ol Kaiser Wilhelm have to say over this present predicament.

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    "I wonder what would ol Kaiser Wilhelm have to say over this present predicament."

    Fix Bayonets!
    , @Expletive Deleted
    "All of that was nothing to do with me. Pass me another log".
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  10. […] ADDED: The Master of Noticing is a little miffed. […]

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  11. @Anon
    When people from that part of the world come to the West, they have contradictory passions.

    1. Contempt. "These women are shameless whores in the obscene decadent west."

    2. Boing!!!!! "Finally, we can have massive orgies and screw anyone in sight cuz they're just begging for it"... or at least that's what they've seen from Western media that promote and hype the likes of Nikki Minaj, Kim Kartrashian, Miley Cyrus, and etc.

    If space aliens were to learn about the West from the pop culture media, they would get the impression that Western women are all whores who are just dying for some action. From rappers, they'd think normal male behavior in the West is to act like thugs. They'd think the West is one big BEASTIE BOYS party. Of course, in people in the West take that stuff with a degree of irony and fun.

    Can't really blame Muslim men for thinking western women are a bunch of hookers. Just look at the pop culture.
    Muslim men have been Joe-Buck-ized.
    https://youtu.be/Bnhgk1rWCH4?t=4m15s

    But people in other cultures(with far less sense of irony) see it as reality, even a 'right to party'.
    I knew an Assyrian family that left Kuwait after the Gulf War. Ironically, they sided with Hussein's invasion and then found refuge in the US that destroyed Hussein. Wacky, I know.
    But anyway, their three sons had such passion for American trash culture. But at the same time, their old world values felt nothing but contempt for western whores.
    They are happy to be in the land of whores and treat women like whores, but they also feel nothing but derision for these women.

    But to some degree, I think Bob Dylan felt it too. In some ways, he was very modern and cosmopolitan. But there was another side of him that was near-Biblical and family-oriented.



    It's partly there in PORTNOY"S COMPLAINT too. On the one hand, there is the 'boing' for the shiksa. But there is also the powerful pull of Jewish culture and the tribe. The Jewish guy hooks up with some shiksa bimbo and is happy to bang her... but also despises her as a slut dolt trash.
    Sort of like what happens with the Sydney Pollack character in Husbands and Wives.
    Initially, he likes the bimbo shiksa but comes to feel contempt for her as a bimbo who thinks King Lear is King Leo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u4tRB0I62s

    Jews don't go around raping and groping like crude and barbaric Muslims do.
    But given their control of porn industry and what they've done to Disney(creating the likes of Britney, Aguilera, Cyrus, etc), I'd say their view of white women isn't all that respectable either. They degrade white women through control of culture and ideas.
    And more than Muslim bad behavior, I find stuff like this even more offensive and damaging in the long run:

    http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2016/1/5/appropriated

    And the problem is with white males too. I mean who forced them to be a bunch of cucks? The phenom of 'cuckoldry' as documented in Details magazine and Vice documentary shows that, in some ways, white males are sicker than Muslims for they get off on their own racial demise and humiliation.

    I think a horny young Muslim man groping a young woman(prolly dressed like a whore), as boorish and crude as it is, is less sick and demented than white guys who get off watching Negroes hump their wives on their own beds.

    So, do white men have any right to condemn others for sickness?

    Good stuff, my man. And with video interludes. White men definitely need to toughen up…. next 10 years will tell the tale imo

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  12. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    I think the Saudis were taken with the symbolism of executing 47 people:

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/02/middleeast/saudi-arabia-executes-dozens-terror/index.html

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  13. Surely in a world where every cop shooting is on camera there must be video? Let the Germans view who did this for themselves. No need to claim it was group X or Group Y.

    My bet: that frat from Virginia has some splainin’ to do.

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    Surely in a world where every cop shooting is on camera there must be video? Let the Germans view who did this for themselves.
     
    I'm disappointed by the lack of good internet video coverage backing up this story.

    Efforts such as Facebook shows to censor and silence these stories will backfire in the face of half decent cell phone videos.
    , @Bettega
    I'd guess those who pulled a camera during a mass robbery were also robbed.
    , @slumber_j
    Here's some video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL9NMZMlXB0
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  14. Sorry, totally OT, but I just caught a glimpse of Byron Scott on the Laker bench and he looks like he might be a dummy.

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    Kobe and his salary finally retiring will probably make the Laker coach look smarter next year.
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  15. “Ms. Reker said that city officials would work to help women protect themselves”

    In any other context this would be denounced by feminists as, “blaming the victim.”

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  16. anon • Disclaimer says:

    It was not clear that any of the men involved were among those who arrived in Germany over the past year from conflicts in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

    Yeah, the fact that this unprecedented event just happened to take place simultaneously in Cologne, Stuttgard, and Hamburg right after our new friends showed up is just an astonishing coincidence.

    Not that I don’t trust the police department that tried to keep this covered up for five days or anything, mind you.

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  17. Steve, you have entirely too much faith in Western Civ at this point in time.

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  18. I spent 5 months in Europe for a study abroad program. While walking through city streets in Germany and the Netherlands, I was cat-called by Arabic and North African men, never the European men. A friend of mine was groped by a Turkish Muslim man in the streets of the Hague.

    Yes, I know it is disrespectful and against everything I’ve been taught and believe, but it’s really hot.

    When men act like men are a little scary….I have to be honest…huge turn on.

    I know I should be horrified but I must admit we like it.

    Haha, that’s probably why I’ve dated so many Muslim men .

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    I swear it took me at least 90 seconds before I realized that the commenter was "Whitney" and not "Whiskey." The comment was so much better before.
    , @anon
    Wow. I never thought I'd get to read the internal monologue of those teenage girls who went off to join ISIS, but there it was.

    How about that.
    , @Kylie
    So you enjoy being mistaken for a goat.

    That's nice. Thanks for sharing.
    , @Mark2
    The emancipation of women will be the final demise of civilization: Exhibit A
    , @anon
    Hello Whiskey.
    , @Anonymous
    Do you think life is an erotic fantasy?

    These people aren't playing a flirtatious game.

    They ARE violent psychopathic abusers and they are like that all the time.

    Stay away from them.
    , @Polymath
    "When men act like men are a little scary….I have to be honest…huge turn on.

    I know I should be horrified but I must admit we like it."

    What "we?" The community of death wish-bimbo-idiots?
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  19. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard of Melbourne
    For the past few decades the Germans have asked for multiculturalism, and now they're getting it - good and hard.

    Exactly how much more of this outrageous behaviour will the Germans tolerate before they take decisive action against the underlying cause? Much, much more, if the Mayor of Cologne is in any sort of guide.

    God help the women of Germany (Merkel and friends excepted).

    Exactly how much more of this outrageous behaviour will the Germans tolerate before they take decisive action against the underlying cause?

    Considering that, the more evidence comes in that this was a terrible mistake, the more they double down on it…

    I really don’t know how to answer that question.

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  20. @Anon
    Shiite, now I've seen everything.

    BUSINESSMEN erect a GOLD statue of MAO.

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/afp-giant-statue-for-chinas-chairman-mao-2016-1
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    Is that a photo of the actual statue or a crappy Photoshop simulation? If the former, I have to admit I thought the Chinese couldn't make a cruder, uglier statue than the one they did of Martin Luther King for Washington, DC.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    Yay! Platform shoes are back in. And is the Chairman rocking some loon pants too?
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  21. mass rape being integral to settling conquered lands by ancient peoples the new gerkey motto….back to the future!

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  22. Muslim men are NOT the ferengi in Cologne. Western White men are. You wonder why Cologne is filled with Muslims? Its because White women WANT them there. Most White women, well they hate hate hate White men for being too beta and unsexy. That’s all there is to it.

    Anyone familiar with women, knows they excuse and justify anything Alpha males do, and punish beta males randomly for merely existing. Paradise for women would be all men either gay or Alpha, and nothing in between. So of course an aging post menopausal leader let them all in, and women in Germany punish German men who actually do anything about Muslims raping other German women, and excuse and justify and hush up like Hillary with Bill or Cosby’s wife any horrible behavior by Muslim men.

    If German men banded together to do something about Muslim men, they’d be thrown in jail. For decades. Not a single Muslim man will receive any serious punishment.

    Look at Lara Logan — has she spoken out about the horrid nature of Muslim men? Of Muslim society? Of course not, she was there in the first place at Tahrir Square because she believed all that PC hype, and even after direct experience with raw, unfiltered Muslim-ness, she still keeps silent.

    Lets not White Knight for German women — they wanted this and got it, good and hard. You don’t see German women demanding Muslims be expelled so they can walk about the streets safe do you? No of course not. Bottom line most Western women would prefer to be #4 in the wife rotation or even just a concubine of some illiterate goat herder cum Jihadi than spend five minutes in an elevator with awkward White male nerd asking her for coffee.

    This screws over White men in Europe good and hard too, but for most White women that’s a plus. There won’t be any fight, any resistance, any expulsion. Its a feminized, consumerist society.

    Hungary does not lack for Jews, but it does come far more recent to mass female led consumerism, which explains why it and not Feminist Sweden decided to keep foreign male predators out.

    German men are the ferengi, not Muslim ones. Muslims run the place already.

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    Lara Logan certainly has spoken out.
    https://youtu.be/DYovcU6vYAI
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  23. Muslim men from more socially conservative cultures where women do not share the same freedoms and protections as men.

    I am quite sure that in Muslim cultures, like in all cultures everywhere, women certainly don’t share the same protections as men – they enjoy much stronger protections. The issue here is not the socially conservative nature of Muslim cultures. The issue is that, toward the outsiders, Muslim men tend to behave in the most socially unconservative ways possible.

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    I am quite sure that in Muslim cultures, like in all cultures everywhere, women certainly don’t share the same protections as men – they enjoy much stronger protections.
     
    It's mixed for the Muslim women. How would you like to get pudgy and obese and get vitamin D deficiency ailments from being cooped up indoors all day and all week? And when you get to go outdoors you are so covered up the sun does not hit your skin. This all depends on the particular Muslim culture. The Persian babes get out and about, Mullahs or no Mullahs.
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  24. I like how the NYT describes these barbaric cultures as “socially conservative” because abusing women is okay. Yeah, like all our social conservatives here are secretly assaulting women who don’t wear proper clothing or have a guy with them.

    this language matters!

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    I like how the NYT describes these barbaric cultures as “socially conservative” because abusing women is okay. Yeah, like all our social conservatives here are secretly assaulting women who don’t wear proper clothing or have a guy with them.

    this language matters!
     
    That's a favorite trick with the NYT: in a similar vein, they at least used to refer to Spain's center-right Partido Popular as "right-wing," when of course any Euro center-right party will in many ways be to the left of either party in the US. Not to mention that in the context of recent Spanish history, "right-wing" makes the PP sound like a reanimated Falange...

    (Their other goofball bit of misdirection was to translate Partido Popular as "Popular Party," as though the horrible prom kings and queens were trying to take over the Kingdom of Spain. The obvious correct translation is "People's Party.")
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  25. I’m just a relatively untraveled American but seems to me Cologne is a major cultural capital that we (Germans) are letting Muslim+African invaders defile. Where is the pride??

    Cologne is a major cultural centre for the Rhineland; it hosts more than thirty museums and hundreds of galleries. Exhibitions range from local ancient Roman archeological sites to contemporary graphics and sculpture. The Cologne Trade Fair hosts a number of trade shows such as Art Cologne, imm Cologne, Gamescom, and the Photokina. ___wikipedia

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  26. Dang, I thought the word “Ferengi” referred to something real. Imagine my laughter when I started learning about it.

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    • Replies: @gruff
    The Star Trek word is lifted from Thai which might derive from the Persian borrowing of "Frank". So Steve is on point here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farang#Etymology_and_related_words
    , @Brutusale
    Or, more to the Sailer model, the Ferengi are the Arab rug merchants (though I've heard some call the Ferengi Space Jews) of the Star Trek universe. Everything is a commercial transaction, even mates.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Ferengi

    Read the part about Ferengi women; it brings new meaning to the term "barefoot and pregnant"!
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  27. These comments are really amazing and sound like they’re right out of Lutz Bachman’s mouth (nice work, Donald!). First, not all the facts about the attacks have rolled in. Second, while it’s true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn’t mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this. We know many refugees in the state of Saxony, where anti-refugee protests and attacks are at the highest in all of Germany. I haven’t met any refugees who are the demons you all are making them out to be. In fact, those we know are happy to learn German and learn the ways of living in Germany, and look forward to starting a new life. Sorry to disappoint, but Europe isn’t going anywhere and Merkel indeed knows what she’s doing.

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    After Rotherham and Oxford and now this I am beginning to question if rape really is the heinous crime it is made out to be. When it happens, the first to defend the perp is always a woman.

    These events aren't an aberration. They are happening too often and on too great a scale. Child services in Oxforshire is an almost entirely female outfit and the abuse was carried on an industrial scale. The head retired at 57 and got a severance package of 600,000 pounds.

    Look at the statistical data, not the anecdotal data from your own personal experience.

    Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It's clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.
    , @anon
    Second, while it’s true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn’t mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this.

    What difference does it make? Are the ones who don't act like this so great that Germany deserves to be infested by the ones who do?

    Merkel indeed knows what she’s doing.

    Sadly, that's probably true. Sleep tight, everyone!
    , @Friedrich
    So you get a boner for mean-IQ-80 types? Learning german? Sure, like the kurds and turks who have been living here for decades already do, huh. Have fun with broken german, I guess it's what you talk at home with your 75 IQ muslim husband. I'm at the source here in West Germany: I know they despise us. I hope that is not your real name, since what you just wrote made you look like a fool with little education.

    A great analysis of the suicide of the current liberal society has been given by Manfred Kleine-Hartlage.
    , @Anonymous
    This was copy/pasted from the nytimes comments section where a German from koln felt the need to post it. that some American feels the need to copy that drivel here says enough.
    , @German_reader
    You're pathetic.
    , @Wyrd
    A feminist rape apologist as long as the perps are not white. These are indeed interesting times.
    , @Anonymous
    Yep.

    'She knows what she is doing' the same way Mikhail Gorbachev 'knew what he was doing'.
    , @pyrrhus
    Sarcasm, I assume??
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  28. I will further add that some of what is going on here when we see this nasty Koln mayor Henriette Reker and Angela Merkel in action…. These non-feminine women are using male Muslims and Africans as a weapon against their feminine “sisters”. For revenge. And if they are not aware of this consciously then they are aware subconsciously. The liberal/lefty mind is so twisted that some some of this is going on.
    Young feminine German women want to avoid these invaders, harassers, gropers and potential rapists.
    When you are a coarse ol’ mannish female hack politician what do you care? And they will get their rocks off from seeing the young attractive German women distressed. At not being able to walk around in public looking good and at their man alluring best…… All due to these “refugee” hoards.

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  29. Could’ve been worse. Could’ve happened during the Gay Games the city hosted in 2010. These camelhumpers are equal opportunity gropers, you know. Woman, man, beast… it’s all fair game.

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    Oh can you feel the love tonight...............
    , @Rob McX
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  30. @Reg Cæsar
    Could've been worse. Could've happened during the Gay Games the city hosted in 2010. These camelhumpers are equal opportunity gropers, you know. Woman, man, beast… it's all fair game.

    Oh can you feel the love tonight……………

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  31. Slate’s headline is “Organized Groups of Men Sexually Assaulted Dozens of Women in Cologne on New Year’s Eve”. Could be frat boys, no one is certain.

    Salon hasn’t mentioned it yet.

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    Haven Mohammed Nahan?
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  32. @inertial

    Muslim men from more socially conservative cultures where women do not share the same freedoms and protections as men.
     
    I am quite sure that in Muslim cultures, like in all cultures everywhere, women certainly don't share the same protections as men - they enjoy much stronger protections. The issue here is not the socially conservative nature of Muslim cultures. The issue is that, toward the outsiders, Muslim men tend to behave in the most socially unconservative ways possible.

    I am quite sure that in Muslim cultures, like in all cultures everywhere, women certainly don’t share the same protections as men – they enjoy much stronger protections.

    It’s mixed for the Muslim women. How would you like to get pudgy and obese and get vitamin D deficiency ailments from being cooped up indoors all day and all week? And when you get to go outdoors you are so covered up the sun does not hit your skin. This all depends on the particular Muslim culture. The Persian babes get out and about, Mullahs or no Mullahs.

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    Houellebecq had an interesting take on the contrast between Western and Muslim women's dress in Submission:
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/681678382808064000
    , @inertial
    Well, I did say more protection, not more freedom.

    BTW, I looked into the history of the Arab dress. Turns out, it wasn't something that men had imposed on women. Rather, it was a result of intrasexual competition (which is probably true of all female clothing styles in all eras.)

    In today's West women compete in how much they can reveal. In the early Medieval Middle East the arms race ran in the opposite direction. High status women started to cover themselves up in order to demonstrate their superior virtue. Lower status women began copying them. So, the high status women had to drape themselves even more. And so on, toward the logical conclusion.

    This kind of thing does not necessarily apply to Muslim. Here is a small Orthodox Jewish burqa sect. Not surprisingly, it is driven entirely by women. The men, even the most fundamentalist of the rabbis, consider them crazy.
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  33. @Whitney
    I spent 5 months in Europe for a study abroad program. While walking through city streets in Germany and the Netherlands, I was cat-called by Arabic and North African men, never the European men. A friend of mine was groped by a Turkish Muslim man in the streets of the Hague.

    Yes, I know it is disrespectful and against everything I've been taught and believe, but it's really hot.

    When men act like men are a little scary....I have to be honest...huge turn on.

    I know I should be horrified but I must admit we like it.

    Haha, that's probably why I've dated so many Muslim men .

    I swear it took me at least 90 seconds before I realized that the commenter was “Whitney” and not “Whiskey.” The comment was so much better before.

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  34. @Reg Cæsar
    Could've been worse. Could've happened during the Gay Games the city hosted in 2010. These camelhumpers are equal opportunity gropers, you know. Woman, man, beast… it's all fair game.
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    After the sexual offences, the scheme… came to an end.
     
    "Came to an end."

    Is this a sly Guardian joke? I thought that was the territory of Punch and the Economist.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    There's still some remnant common-sense in the Brit Army, I'm relieved to see.

    "The base was also reinforced with troops from 2 Scots, the Royal Highland Fusiliers, “to bolster security and reassure the local population” ".
     
    "When dealing with tribal savages, just chuck a load of Jock psychos at 'em. Them or the Ghurkas."
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  35. @Michelle
    These comments are really amazing and sound like they're right out of Lutz Bachman's mouth (nice work, Donald!). First, not all the facts about the attacks have rolled in. Second, while it's true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn't mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this. We know many refugees in the state of Saxony, where anti-refugee protests and attacks are at the highest in all of Germany. I haven't met any refugees who are the demons you all are making them out to be. In fact, those we know are happy to learn German and learn the ways of living in Germany, and look forward to starting a new life. Sorry to disappoint, but Europe isn't going anywhere and Merkel indeed knows what she's doing.

    After Rotherham and Oxford and now this I am beginning to question if rape really is the heinous crime it is made out to be. When it happens, the first to defend the perp is always a woman.

    These events aren’t an aberration. They are happening too often and on too great a scale. Child services in Oxforshire is an almost entirely female outfit and the abuse was carried on an industrial scale. The head retired at 57 and got a severance package of 600,000 pounds.

    Look at the statistical data, not the anecdotal data from your own personal experience.

    Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It’s clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.

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    Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It’s clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.

    Unless you're a white guy who doesn't exist. Then you're persona non grata.
    , @Kylie
    "Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It’s clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence."

    Right. I think those are reasonable penalties for victims of mass rape.
    , @anon
    The women you describe who run all the child protection agencies across western Europe and who are the first to cover up rape are all feminists who came out of the 1980's radical feminist movement.

    So you're partly right but it is a very distinct subset of women who are responsible for covering up mass rape when it contradicts PC.
    , @anon
    also, always check the ethnicity wherever possible
    , @Big Bill
    Education will solve everything. I say we send Michelle into the refugee camps to "raise their consciousness". That would be fun to watch.
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  36. It wouldn’t matter in the long run if the immigrants were peaceful and law-abiding. It’s race replacement, one way or another, genocide in the long run. “Assimilation” or “integration” would only mean race-mixing and the more rapid dilution of the indigenous gene pool. In a way it’s better that they’re violent, uncontrollable misogynists. It means the native population will keep a safe distance from them whenever they can.

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  37. @notme
    Sorry, totally OT, but I just caught a glimpse of Byron Scott on the Laker bench and he looks like he might be a dummy.

    Kobe and his salary finally retiring will probably make the Laker coach look smarter next year.

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    Speaking of LA sports, are you looking forward to there being potentially 3 LA NFL teams?
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  38. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Michelle
    These comments are really amazing and sound like they're right out of Lutz Bachman's mouth (nice work, Donald!). First, not all the facts about the attacks have rolled in. Second, while it's true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn't mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this. We know many refugees in the state of Saxony, where anti-refugee protests and attacks are at the highest in all of Germany. I haven't met any refugees who are the demons you all are making them out to be. In fact, those we know are happy to learn German and learn the ways of living in Germany, and look forward to starting a new life. Sorry to disappoint, but Europe isn't going anywhere and Merkel indeed knows what she's doing.

    Second, while it’s true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn’t mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this.

    What difference does it make? Are the ones who don’t act like this so great that Germany deserves to be infested by the ones who do?

    Merkel indeed knows what she’s doing.

    Sadly, that’s probably true. Sleep tight, everyone!

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  39. @Steve Sailer
    Kobe and his salary finally retiring will probably make the Laker coach look smarter next year.

    Speaking of LA sports, are you looking forward to there being potentially 3 LA NFL teams?

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    Nah, although I suppose it would be good for other cities because NFL teams will be less able to extort taxpayer dollars from them by threatening to move to LA once a whole bunch of teams finally move to LA.
    , @Lot
    I look forward to the Chargers leaving and am proud we stood up to the owner's extortion. i hope they do something useful with the land so a new team moving here can't be used to extort another city for a billion dollar transfer to a billionaire owner.
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  40. @TomSchmidt
    Surely in a world where every cop shooting is on camera there must be video? Let the Germans view who did this for themselves. No need to claim it was group X or Group Y.

    My bet: that frat from Virginia has some splainin' to do.

    Surely in a world where every cop shooting is on camera there must be video? Let the Germans view who did this for themselves.

    I’m disappointed by the lack of good internet video coverage backing up this story.

    Efforts such as Facebook shows to censor and silence these stories will backfire in the face of half decent cell phone videos.

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  41. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @22pp22
    After Rotherham and Oxford and now this I am beginning to question if rape really is the heinous crime it is made out to be. When it happens, the first to defend the perp is always a woman.

    These events aren't an aberration. They are happening too often and on too great a scale. Child services in Oxforshire is an almost entirely female outfit and the abuse was carried on an industrial scale. The head retired at 57 and got a severance package of 600,000 pounds.

    Look at the statistical data, not the anecdotal data from your own personal experience.

    Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It's clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.

    Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It’s clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.

    Unless you’re a white guy who doesn’t exist. Then you’re persona non grata.

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    Then explain the reaction of Michelle and the huge women's right bureaucracy in the UK. They're all women and they would be baying for blood if white guys were behaving like this. If you are murdered, you are dead. It doesn't matter who the killer is. To these women, if the rapist is non-white, the matter needs to be downplayed or brushed under the carpet. If the rapist is white, it's suddenly front-page news.

    So you're double-raped if the guy is white and only a little bit raped if the guy is brown.

    Don't get angry with me. I am following the logic of people like Angela Merkel and Michelle. It's called blaming the messenger.
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  42. @rvg
    I wonder what would ol Kaiser Wilhelm have to say over this present predicament.

    “I wonder what would ol Kaiser Wilhelm have to say over this present predicament.”

    Fix Bayonets!

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  43. @Whitney
    I spent 5 months in Europe for a study abroad program. While walking through city streets in Germany and the Netherlands, I was cat-called by Arabic and North African men, never the European men. A friend of mine was groped by a Turkish Muslim man in the streets of the Hague.

    Yes, I know it is disrespectful and against everything I've been taught and believe, but it's really hot.

    When men act like men are a little scary....I have to be honest...huge turn on.

    I know I should be horrified but I must admit we like it.

    Haha, that's probably why I've dated so many Muslim men .

    Wow. I never thought I’d get to read the internal monologue of those teenage girls who went off to join ISIS, but there it was.

    How about that.

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    So groping Whitney would be a terrible crime? I would like to think she's being sarcastic, but I'm not sure she is.
    , @TheJester
    Lessons learned from two decades as a Westerner living and working among Muslims in the Middle East:

    1. Muslim men grow up believing that women have uncontrollable sexual desires. They look for any and every opportunity to mate. Exposing their bare arms, legs, and feminine curves or making eye contact are seen as signaling ... sexual invitations. If there is a sexual misadventure, it is the female's fault for sexually taunting the male ... kind of like a woman playing out a rape fantasy.

    2. This is why women need to be protected from themselves in harems and cover their bodies in public for their own well-being ... it's part of the way that the superior Islamic culture cares for their own.

    3. We know that Western culture needs to accommodate our new "guests" by forcing Western women into chador and isolating them in harems. If we don't, we know whose fault it is and who must bear the responsibility for the consequences. This is because the Muslims won't change (their religion forbids it). So ... WE have to change.

    Imagine! Western men actually allow their women to run around half-naked and behave like sluts in public. How irresponsible can they be! Just look at the legions of "out of control" Western women taunting men as they promenade in public places.

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  44. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/684351993423368192

    Is that a photo of the actual statue or a crappy Photoshop simulation? If the former, I have to admit I thought the Chinese couldn’t make a cruder, uglier statue than the one they did of Martin Luther King for Washington, DC.

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    I don't know, but I was reminded of the MLK statue as well.
    , @gruff
    The Chinese have no instinct for sculpture. Never have. The famous terracotta army was of Greek inspiration (look it up!) and left no discernible trace in Chinese culture.
    , @carol
    I presume the statue is whimsically referred to as Mao Luther King by now - ?
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  45. @Anonymous
    Speaking of LA sports, are you looking forward to there being potentially 3 LA NFL teams?

    Nah, although I suppose it would be good for other cities because NFL teams will be less able to extort taxpayer dollars from them by threatening to move to LA once a whole bunch of teams finally move to LA.

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  46. @Rob McX

    After the sexual offences, the scheme… came to an end.

    “Came to an end.”

    Is this a sly Guardian joke? I thought that was the territory of Punch and the Economist.

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  47. @Whitney
    I spent 5 months in Europe for a study abroad program. While walking through city streets in Germany and the Netherlands, I was cat-called by Arabic and North African men, never the European men. A friend of mine was groped by a Turkish Muslim man in the streets of the Hague.

    Yes, I know it is disrespectful and against everything I've been taught and believe, but it's really hot.

    When men act like men are a little scary....I have to be honest...huge turn on.

    I know I should be horrified but I must admit we like it.

    Haha, that's probably why I've dated so many Muslim men .

    So you enjoy being mistaken for a goat.

    That’s nice. Thanks for sharing.

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    It does happen. It's Munich. Naughty Germans, flaunting yourselves at those poor lonely arab boys like that.
    http://www.magx.com/www/images/bizarre/devil-run-munich/krampus7.jpg
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  48. @Whitney
    I spent 5 months in Europe for a study abroad program. While walking through city streets in Germany and the Netherlands, I was cat-called by Arabic and North African men, never the European men. A friend of mine was groped by a Turkish Muslim man in the streets of the Hague.

    Yes, I know it is disrespectful and against everything I've been taught and believe, but it's really hot.

    When men act like men are a little scary....I have to be honest...huge turn on.

    I know I should be horrified but I must admit we like it.

    Haha, that's probably why I've dated so many Muslim men .

    The emancipation of women will be the final demise of civilization: Exhibit A

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    Relax, some dude is just trolling...
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  49. @Clyde

    I am quite sure that in Muslim cultures, like in all cultures everywhere, women certainly don’t share the same protections as men – they enjoy much stronger protections.
     
    It's mixed for the Muslim women. How would you like to get pudgy and obese and get vitamin D deficiency ailments from being cooped up indoors all day and all week? And when you get to go outdoors you are so covered up the sun does not hit your skin. This all depends on the particular Muslim culture. The Persian babes get out and about, Mullahs or no Mullahs.

    Houellebecq had an interesting take on the contrast between Western and Muslim women’s dress in Submission:

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    Houellebecq wrote a novel. Is this going on today? That their burqa clad women get really sexy at night along with some Victoria's Secret lingerie? There are many Muslim female cover options ranging on downward from the burqa. I see them with their scarves on where I live. No burqas. At a beach I once saw a Muslim family show up with three children. The wife looked decent (no fatty) and was fairly well covered up. She went into the ocean this way. I did not see the drying off process if there was one.
    , @Brutusale
    Tony Bourdain riffed on this when he was in Saudi Arabia. He went to a mall with his host, a Saudi woman, and commented on the sexy clothing and lingerie on display:

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv2mjm_anthony-bourdain-in-saudi-arabia-part-3_travel

    (mall visit starts around 2:15)

    "While we await the senseless slaughter of the dinner camel, Bourdain and Danya take an intermission for a few other activities. They visit a Saudi mall, a favorite destination for locals to hang out and participate in some conspicuous consumption. I found it amusing that they sell a huge variety of westernized women’s clothing at the mall – women are required to be covered head to toe to maintain “modesty,” yet sexy lingerie and high heels are easily available. Seems like a bit of a contradiction, no?"
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  50. @Harry Baldwin
    Is that a photo of the actual statue or a crappy Photoshop simulation? If the former, I have to admit I thought the Chinese couldn't make a cruder, uglier statue than the one they did of Martin Luther King for Washington, DC.

    I don’t know, but I was reminded of the MLK statue as well.

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  51. @Formerly CARealist
    Dang, I thought the word "Ferengi" referred to something real. Imagine my laughter when I started learning about it.

    The Star Trek word is lifted from Thai which might derive from the Persian borrowing of “Frank”. So Steve is on point here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farang#Etymology_and_related_words

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  52. @anon
    Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It’s clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.

    Unless you're a white guy who doesn't exist. Then you're persona non grata.

    Then explain the reaction of Michelle and the huge women’s right bureaucracy in the UK. They’re all women and they would be baying for blood if white guys were behaving like this. If you are murdered, you are dead. It doesn’t matter who the killer is. To these women, if the rapist is non-white, the matter needs to be downplayed or brushed under the carpet. If the rapist is white, it’s suddenly front-page news.

    So you’re double-raped if the guy is white and only a little bit raped if the guy is brown.

    Don’t get angry with me. I am following the logic of people like Angela Merkel and Michelle. It’s called blaming the messenger.

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    To these women, if the rapist is non-white, the matter needs to be downplayed or brushed under the carpet. If the rapist is white, it’s suddenly front-page news.

    I know, that was my point.

    In fairness, though, I don't think average women really agree. The ones who supported this refugee resettlement really just don't want to admit that they've been wrong about everything so far.
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  53. @Harry Baldwin
    Is that a photo of the actual statue or a crappy Photoshop simulation? If the former, I have to admit I thought the Chinese couldn't make a cruder, uglier statue than the one they did of Martin Luther King for Washington, DC.

    The Chinese have no instinct for sculpture. Never have. The famous terracotta army was of Greek inspiration (look it up!) and left no discernible trace in Chinese culture.

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    "The Chinese have no instinct for sculpture. Never have."

    Utter nonsense - you know nothing about art history. Their Liao dynasty sculptures of reclining Bodhisattvas are amongst the most beautiful examples of the plastic arts fashioned by members of our species.
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  54. @anon
    Wow. I never thought I'd get to read the internal monologue of those teenage girls who went off to join ISIS, but there it was.

    How about that.

    So groping Whitney would be a terrible crime? I would like to think she’s being sarcastic, but I’m not sure she is.

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    I really don't know what Whitney was trying to do, except possibly demonstrate to the world why the Muslim world doesn't think women should go outside unescorted.
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  55. @Michelle
    These comments are really amazing and sound like they're right out of Lutz Bachman's mouth (nice work, Donald!). First, not all the facts about the attacks have rolled in. Second, while it's true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn't mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this. We know many refugees in the state of Saxony, where anti-refugee protests and attacks are at the highest in all of Germany. I haven't met any refugees who are the demons you all are making them out to be. In fact, those we know are happy to learn German and learn the ways of living in Germany, and look forward to starting a new life. Sorry to disappoint, but Europe isn't going anywhere and Merkel indeed knows what she's doing.

    So you get a boner for mean-IQ-80 types? Learning german? Sure, like the kurds and turks who have been living here for decades already do, huh. Have fun with broken german, I guess it’s what you talk at home with your 75 IQ muslim husband. I’m at the source here in West Germany: I know they despise us. I hope that is not your real name, since what you just wrote made you look like a fool with little education.

    A great analysis of the suicide of the current liberal society has been given by Manfred Kleine-Hartlage.

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    @22pp22
    Then explain the reaction of Michelle and the huge women's right bureaucracy in the UK. They're all women and they would be baying for blood if white guys were behaving like this. If you are murdered, you are dead. It doesn't matter who the killer is. To these women, if the rapist is non-white, the matter needs to be downplayed or brushed under the carpet. If the rapist is white, it's suddenly front-page news.

    So you're double-raped if the guy is white and only a little bit raped if the guy is brown.

    Don't get angry with me. I am following the logic of people like Angela Merkel and Michelle. It's called blaming the messenger.

    To these women, if the rapist is non-white, the matter needs to be downplayed or brushed under the carpet. If the rapist is white, it’s suddenly front-page news.

    I know, that was my point.

    In fairness, though, I don’t think average women really agree. The ones who supported this refugee resettlement really just don’t want to admit that they’ve been wrong about everything so far.

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  57. @22pp22
    So groping Whitney would be a terrible crime? I would like to think she's being sarcastic, but I'm not sure she is.

    I really don’t know what Whitney was trying to do, except possibly demonstrate to the world why the Muslim world doesn’t think women should go outside unescorted.

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    I think "Whitney" is either a male troll trying to get a rise out of people for the lulz, or a masochistic exhibitionist currently refreshing this comment section with one hand, if you get my drift. It's good to see that he/she has mostly been politely ignored, which is the best thing to do in either case.
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  58. @Dave Pinsen
    Houellebecq had an interesting take on the contrast between Western and Muslim women's dress in Submission:
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/681678382808064000

    Houellebecq wrote a novel. Is this going on today? That their burqa clad women get really sexy at night along with some Victoria’s Secret lingerie? There are many Muslim female cover options ranging on downward from the burqa. I see them with their scarves on where I live. No burqas. At a beach I once saw a Muslim family show up with three children. The wife looked decent (no fatty) and was fairly well covered up. She went into the ocean this way. I did not see the drying off process if there was one.

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    What with all the Muslim gropers filling up Europe, I look forward to more conservative female dress and the return of bathing machines.
    , @James N. Kennett

    Houellebecq wrote a novel. Is this going on today? That their burqa clad women get really sexy at night along with some Victoria’s Secret lingerie?
     
    Yes, it's true. While in London I saw a group of niqab-wearing women going into a lingerie shop. They wear whatever they like when they are at home. The niqab or burka are for public wear only.
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  59. @Michelle
    These comments are really amazing and sound like they're right out of Lutz Bachman's mouth (nice work, Donald!). First, not all the facts about the attacks have rolled in. Second, while it's true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn't mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this. We know many refugees in the state of Saxony, where anti-refugee protests and attacks are at the highest in all of Germany. I haven't met any refugees who are the demons you all are making them out to be. In fact, those we know are happy to learn German and learn the ways of living in Germany, and look forward to starting a new life. Sorry to disappoint, but Europe isn't going anywhere and Merkel indeed knows what she's doing.

    This was copy/pasted from the nytimes comments section where a German from koln felt the need to post it. that some American feels the need to copy that drivel here says enough.

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  60. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    You just wait.

    The left, which for all these years has been pushing a slut-walk, femen, ‘take back the night’ etc virulently anti-white male narrative as regards to sexuality, will now start calling these German women slags and sluts who ‘deliberately tease, tempt and taunt these poor testosterone laden sex-starved, oppressed, young third world men’.

    Count on it.

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  61. @Michelle
    These comments are really amazing and sound like they're right out of Lutz Bachman's mouth (nice work, Donald!). First, not all the facts about the attacks have rolled in. Second, while it's true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn't mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this. We know many refugees in the state of Saxony, where anti-refugee protests and attacks are at the highest in all of Germany. I haven't met any refugees who are the demons you all are making them out to be. In fact, those we know are happy to learn German and learn the ways of living in Germany, and look forward to starting a new life. Sorry to disappoint, but Europe isn't going anywhere and Merkel indeed knows what she's doing.

    You’re pathetic.

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    Is that any more pathetic than people here at Unz.com using IQ scores as a metric for admitting people in over things like racial survival?
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  62. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Firing bullets into the air in ‘celebration’ is a very dumb thing to do.

    The basic laws of physics tell us, at a first approximation, if we ignore the effects of air resistance, that a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.
    When you consider the considerable muzzle velocity of an ak 47 bullet, and the effect on range on tilting the barrel just a merest fraction of a degree, then it is hardly surprising to read accounts of persons being killed by bullets ‘coming out of nowhere’ and placing themselves ‘right top, dead center of the head’ a considerable distance away from the discharge.

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    I recall an article out of Baghdad either right before or after the U.S. invasion in 2003 about the rise in popularity of shooting guns in the air to celebrate. A Baghdad doctor said it used to be just something that country bumpkins did, but it had spread to the capital. He'd recently attended the wedding of the daughter of the chief of surgery at his hospital in Baghdad and the chief of surgery fired a few rounds into the air to celebrate.
    , @Anonymous

    a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.
     
    No it bloody doesn't. Well not since an Italian and an Englishman invented Gravity it doesn't. FFS.
    , @anonguy

    The basic laws of physics tell us, at a first approximation, if we ignore the effects of air resistance, that a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.
     
    Uncanny how this follows the recent physics thread.

    The above statement isn't even wrong, it is just nonsense.

    First, if we ignore air resistance, i.e, we can't in any meaningful way talk about hurling something into the air, since the only effect of air, apart from nearly negligible buoyancy, gravitational effects of air mass, etc, is air resistance. But I'll concede that is pedantic. Anyhow, the author seems to have meant to say in a vacuum.

    In this case, the basic laws of physics don't tell us at a first approximation, that ... Rather, the basic laws of physics, if whether classical or modern, tell us that that the body will return at exactly the same velocity.

    However, if we do consider the effects of air, it isn't to a first approximation except for very short distances. A falling human body in a prone position reaches 120 mph and gets to that pretty quickly.

    From wikipedia:

    "Higher speeds can be attained if the skydiver pulls in his or her limbs (see also freeflying). In this case, the terminal velocity increases to about 320 km/h (200 mph or 90 m/s),[2] which is almost the terminal velocity of the peregrine falcon diving down on its prey.[3] The same terminal velocity is reached for a typical .30-06 bullet dropping downwards—when it is returning to earth having been fired upwards, or dropped from a tower—according to a 1920 U.S. Army Ordnance study.[4]"

    A common physics 101 problem is working this out and students are generally amazed to find out that if you fall out of a 4th story window or so you achieve 90% or so (I qualify with "or so" because it is been a long time since I've done the math) of the velocity you'd achieve if you fell out of a plane at 5000 feet. Or 50,000 feet, etc.

    That isn't a first order of approximation at all - again, in some extremely limited, low distance/low velocity cases one might justify this, but as a general case and specifically in one with the muzzle velocity of typical bullets and the height they achieve, it is not just inaccurate, it is directly at odds with the facts.

    That all being said, a typical bullet, regardless of what aspect it assumes, striking the top of one's head at ~200 mph sounds like it could do some heavy damage - I'm not disputing that.
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  63. @22pp22
    After Rotherham and Oxford and now this I am beginning to question if rape really is the heinous crime it is made out to be. When it happens, the first to defend the perp is always a woman.

    These events aren't an aberration. They are happening too often and on too great a scale. Child services in Oxforshire is an almost entirely female outfit and the abuse was carried on an industrial scale. The head retired at 57 and got a severance package of 600,000 pounds.

    Look at the statistical data, not the anecdotal data from your own personal experience.

    Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It's clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.

    “Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It’s clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.”

    Right. I think those are reasonable penalties for victims of mass rape.

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  64. @Michelle
    These comments are really amazing and sound like they're right out of Lutz Bachman's mouth (nice work, Donald!). First, not all the facts about the attacks have rolled in. Second, while it's true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn't mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this. We know many refugees in the state of Saxony, where anti-refugee protests and attacks are at the highest in all of Germany. I haven't met any refugees who are the demons you all are making them out to be. In fact, those we know are happy to learn German and learn the ways of living in Germany, and look forward to starting a new life. Sorry to disappoint, but Europe isn't going anywhere and Merkel indeed knows what she's doing.

    A feminist rape apologist as long as the perps are not white. These are indeed interesting times.

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  65. @Clyde

    I am quite sure that in Muslim cultures, like in all cultures everywhere, women certainly don’t share the same protections as men – they enjoy much stronger protections.
     
    It's mixed for the Muslim women. How would you like to get pudgy and obese and get vitamin D deficiency ailments from being cooped up indoors all day and all week? And when you get to go outdoors you are so covered up the sun does not hit your skin. This all depends on the particular Muslim culture. The Persian babes get out and about, Mullahs or no Mullahs.

    Well, I did say more protection, not more freedom.

    BTW, I looked into the history of the Arab dress. Turns out, it wasn’t something that men had imposed on women. Rather, it was a result of intrasexual competition (which is probably true of all female clothing styles in all eras.)

    In today’s West women compete in how much they can reveal. In the early Medieval Middle East the arms race ran in the opposite direction. High status women started to cover themselves up in order to demonstrate their superior virtue. Lower status women began copying them. So, the high status women had to drape themselves even more. And so on, toward the logical conclusion.

    This kind of thing does not necessarily apply to Muslim. Here is a small Orthodox Jewish burqa sect. Not surprisingly, it is driven entirely by women. The men, even the most fundamentalist of the rabbis, consider them crazy.

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    Huh? Have you seen paintings of Byzantine and medieval noblewomen? They look the same as Muslim women with the exception that you can see the face.

    Modesty was important for all except the very rich, and most women appear almost entirely covered by rather shapeless clothes, which needed to be able to accommodate a full pregnancy. The basic garment in the early Empire comes down to the ankles, with a high round collar and tight sleeves to the wrist. The fringes and cuffs might be decorated with embroidery, with a band around the upper arm as well. In the 10th and 11th century a dress with flared sleeves, eventually very full indeed at the wrist, becomes increasingly popular, before disappearing; working women are shown with the sleeves tied up. In court ladies this may come with a V-collar. Belts were normally worn, possibly with belt-hooks to support the skirt; they may have been cloth more often than leather, and some tasselled sashes are seen.[4] Neck openings were probably often buttoned, which is hard to see in art, and not described in texts, but must have been needed if only for breast-feeding. Straight down, across, or diagonally are the possible options.[5] The plain linen undergarment was, until the 10th century, not designed to be visible. However at this point a standing collar starts to show above the main dress.[5]

    Hair is covered by a variety of head-cloths and veils, presumably often removed inside the home. Sometimes caps were worn under the veil, and sometimes the cloth is tied in turban style. This may have been done while working - for example the midwives in scenes of the Nativity of Jesus in art usually adopt this style. Earlier ones were wrapped in a figure-of-eight fashion, but by the 11th century circular wrapping, possibly sewn into a fixed position, was adopted. In the 11th and 12th centuries head-cloths or veils began to be longer.[6]

    With footwear, we are on firmer ground, as there are considerable numbers of examples recovered by archaeology from the drier parts of the Empire. A great variety of footwear is found, with sandals, slippers and boots to the mid-calf all common in manuscript illustrations and excavated finds, where many are decorated in various ways. The colour red, reserved for Imperial use in male footwear, is actually by far the most common colour for women's shoes. Purses are rarely visible, and seem to have been made of textile matching the dress, or perhaps tucked into the sash.[7]

    Dancers are shown with special dress including short sleeves or sleeveless dresses, which may or may not have a lighter sleeve from an undergarment below. They have tight wide belts, and their skirts have a flared and differently coloured element, probably designed to rise up as they spin in dances.[8] A remark of Anna Komnene about her mother suggests that not showing the arm above the wrist was a special focus of Byzantine modesty.[9]

    Although it is sometimes claimed that the face-veil was invented by the Byzantines,[10] Byzantine art does not depict women with veiled faces, although it commonly depicts women with veiled hair. It is assumed that Byzantine women outside court circles went well wrapped up in public, and were relatively restricted in their movements outside the house; they are rarely depicted in art.[11] The literary sources are not sufficiently clear to distinguish between a head-veil and a face-veil.[9] Strabo, writing in the 1st century, alludes to some Persian women veiling their faces (Geography, 11. 9-10).[not in citation given] In addition, the early 3rd-century Christian writer Tertullian, in his treatise The Veiling of Virgins, Ch. 17, describes pagan Arab women as veiling the entire face except the eyes, in the manner of a niqab. This shows that some Middle Eastern women veiled their faces long before Islam.

    , @Officious intermeddler
    Many years ago, I saw a tv interview with a Saudi woman who had lived in Switzerland for a few years. She said something along these lines: "Husbands in the west do not love their wives. If they loved them, they would not force them to go uncovered in public, where they can be insulted by every man in the street."
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  66. @Anon
    When people from that part of the world come to the West, they have contradictory passions.

    1. Contempt. "These women are shameless whores in the obscene decadent west."

    2. Boing!!!!! "Finally, we can have massive orgies and screw anyone in sight cuz they're just begging for it"... or at least that's what they've seen from Western media that promote and hype the likes of Nikki Minaj, Kim Kartrashian, Miley Cyrus, and etc.

    If space aliens were to learn about the West from the pop culture media, they would get the impression that Western women are all whores who are just dying for some action. From rappers, they'd think normal male behavior in the West is to act like thugs. They'd think the West is one big BEASTIE BOYS party. Of course, in people in the West take that stuff with a degree of irony and fun.

    Can't really blame Muslim men for thinking western women are a bunch of hookers. Just look at the pop culture.
    Muslim men have been Joe-Buck-ized.
    https://youtu.be/Bnhgk1rWCH4?t=4m15s

    But people in other cultures(with far less sense of irony) see it as reality, even a 'right to party'.
    I knew an Assyrian family that left Kuwait after the Gulf War. Ironically, they sided with Hussein's invasion and then found refuge in the US that destroyed Hussein. Wacky, I know.
    But anyway, their three sons had such passion for American trash culture. But at the same time, their old world values felt nothing but contempt for western whores.
    They are happy to be in the land of whores and treat women like whores, but they also feel nothing but derision for these women.

    But to some degree, I think Bob Dylan felt it too. In some ways, he was very modern and cosmopolitan. But there was another side of him that was near-Biblical and family-oriented.



    It's partly there in PORTNOY"S COMPLAINT too. On the one hand, there is the 'boing' for the shiksa. But there is also the powerful pull of Jewish culture and the tribe. The Jewish guy hooks up with some shiksa bimbo and is happy to bang her... but also despises her as a slut dolt trash.
    Sort of like what happens with the Sydney Pollack character in Husbands and Wives.
    Initially, he likes the bimbo shiksa but comes to feel contempt for her as a bimbo who thinks King Lear is King Leo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u4tRB0I62s

    Jews don't go around raping and groping like crude and barbaric Muslims do.
    But given their control of porn industry and what they've done to Disney(creating the likes of Britney, Aguilera, Cyrus, etc), I'd say their view of white women isn't all that respectable either. They degrade white women through control of culture and ideas.
    And more than Muslim bad behavior, I find stuff like this even more offensive and damaging in the long run:

    http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2016/1/5/appropriated

    And the problem is with white males too. I mean who forced them to be a bunch of cucks? The phenom of 'cuckoldry' as documented in Details magazine and Vice documentary shows that, in some ways, white males are sicker than Muslims for they get off on their own racial demise and humiliation.

    I think a horny young Muslim man groping a young woman(prolly dressed like a whore), as boorish and crude as it is, is less sick and demented than white guys who get off watching Negroes hump their wives on their own beds.

    So, do white men have any right to condemn others for sickness?

    “I think a horny young Muslim man groping a young woman(prolly dressed like a whore),”

    Muslim men’s definition of a “whore” is any woman who is not wearing traditional female Islamic clothing like a niqab, hijab, or a burka. So pretty much all Non Muslim women in the world are “whores” to them. Anon your mother would be a whore to them as well if she is not dressed in what Islamic law defines as appropriate clothing for women to be seen with in public.

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    Not true.

    Plenty of women in the Muslim world dress modern.

    And Muslims didn't regard British women as whores during the age of empire.

    Today's western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.

    http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/here-s-that-allison-williams-sex-scene-from-girls-everyone-is-talking-about-49348

    The old way was better. Never dishonor the family.

    https://youtu.be/pvrVFb-RIQc?t=9s
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  67. @German_reader
    You're pathetic.

    Is that any more pathetic than people here at Unz.com using IQ scores as a metric for admitting people in over things like racial survival?

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    Yes.
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  68. @Michelle
    These comments are really amazing and sound like they're right out of Lutz Bachman's mouth (nice work, Donald!). First, not all the facts about the attacks have rolled in. Second, while it's true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn't mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this. We know many refugees in the state of Saxony, where anti-refugee protests and attacks are at the highest in all of Germany. I haven't met any refugees who are the demons you all are making them out to be. In fact, those we know are happy to learn German and learn the ways of living in Germany, and look forward to starting a new life. Sorry to disappoint, but Europe isn't going anywhere and Merkel indeed knows what she's doing.

    Yep.

    ‘She knows what she is doing’ the same way Mikhail Gorbachev ‘knew what he was doing’.

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  69. @Anonymous
    Firing bullets into the air in 'celebration' is a very dumb thing to do.

    The basic laws of physics tell us, at a first approximation, if we ignore the effects of air resistance, that a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.
    When you consider the considerable muzzle velocity of an ak 47 bullet, and the effect on range on tilting the barrel just a merest fraction of a degree, then it is hardly surprising to read accounts of persons being killed by bullets 'coming out of nowhere' and placing themselves 'right top, dead center of the head' a considerable distance away from the discharge.

    I recall an article out of Baghdad either right before or after the U.S. invasion in 2003 about the rise in popularity of shooting guns in the air to celebrate. A Baghdad doctor said it used to be just something that country bumpkins did, but it had spread to the capital. He’d recently attended the wedding of the daughter of the chief of surgery at his hospital in Baghdad and the chief of surgery fired a few rounds into the air to celebrate.

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    I have never believed these bs stories about people being killed by bullets coming down from celebratory gunfire that is fired straight up in the air. There is just too low probability of that bullet hitting hard enough and in just the right place to kill. Its an urban myth.

    What does happen is that some drunken a-hole fires at a lower angle and nails someone. These incidents then get conflated with the straight up in the air celebratory gunfire. All of which has been going on in Yeb! land Miami for years.
    , @Dirk Dagger
    There's an old Mythbusters episode on celebratory gunfire and lethality. I won't spoil it by giving their verdict on Bullets Fired Up (their title) but the analysis is a taco for thinking.
    , @Brutusale
    Didn't New Orleans regularly lose some of its vibrant citizens every New Year's Eve due to the same type of celebrating?
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  70. @inertial
    Well, I did say more protection, not more freedom.

    BTW, I looked into the history of the Arab dress. Turns out, it wasn't something that men had imposed on women. Rather, it was a result of intrasexual competition (which is probably true of all female clothing styles in all eras.)

    In today's West women compete in how much they can reveal. In the early Medieval Middle East the arms race ran in the opposite direction. High status women started to cover themselves up in order to demonstrate their superior virtue. Lower status women began copying them. So, the high status women had to drape themselves even more. And so on, toward the logical conclusion.

    This kind of thing does not necessarily apply to Muslim. Here is a small Orthodox Jewish burqa sect. Not surprisingly, it is driven entirely by women. The men, even the most fundamentalist of the rabbis, consider them crazy.

    Huh? Have you seen paintings of Byzantine and medieval noblewomen? They look the same as Muslim women with the exception that you can see the face.

    Modesty was important for all except the very rich, and most women appear almost entirely covered by rather shapeless clothes, which needed to be able to accommodate a full pregnancy. The basic garment in the early Empire comes down to the ankles, with a high round collar and tight sleeves to the wrist. The fringes and cuffs might be decorated with embroidery, with a band around the upper arm as well. In the 10th and 11th century a dress with flared sleeves, eventually very full indeed at the wrist, becomes increasingly popular, before disappearing; working women are shown with the sleeves tied up. In court ladies this may come with a V-collar. Belts were normally worn, possibly with belt-hooks to support the skirt; they may have been cloth more often than leather, and some tasselled sashes are seen.[4] Neck openings were probably often buttoned, which is hard to see in art, and not described in texts, but must have been needed if only for breast-feeding. Straight down, across, or diagonally are the possible options.[5] The plain linen undergarment was, until the 10th century, not designed to be visible. However at this point a standing collar starts to show above the main dress.[5]

    Hair is covered by a variety of head-cloths and veils, presumably often removed inside the home. Sometimes caps were worn under the veil, and sometimes the cloth is tied in turban style. This may have been done while working – for example the midwives in scenes of the Nativity of Jesus in art usually adopt this style. Earlier ones were wrapped in a figure-of-eight fashion, but by the 11th century circular wrapping, possibly sewn into a fixed position, was adopted. In the 11th and 12th centuries head-cloths or veils began to be longer.[6]

    With footwear, we are on firmer ground, as there are considerable numbers of examples recovered by archaeology from the drier parts of the Empire. A great variety of footwear is found, with sandals, slippers and boots to the mid-calf all common in manuscript illustrations and excavated finds, where many are decorated in various ways. The colour red, reserved for Imperial use in male footwear, is actually by far the most common colour for women’s shoes. Purses are rarely visible, and seem to have been made of textile matching the dress, or perhaps tucked into the sash.[7]

    Dancers are shown with special dress including short sleeves or sleeveless dresses, which may or may not have a lighter sleeve from an undergarment below. They have tight wide belts, and their skirts have a flared and differently coloured element, probably designed to rise up as they spin in dances.[8] A remark of Anna Komnene about her mother suggests that not showing the arm above the wrist was a special focus of Byzantine modesty.[9]

    Although it is sometimes claimed that the face-veil was invented by the Byzantines,[10] Byzantine art does not depict women with veiled faces, although it commonly depicts women with veiled hair. It is assumed that Byzantine women outside court circles went well wrapped up in public, and were relatively restricted in their movements outside the house; they are rarely depicted in art.[11] The literary sources are not sufficiently clear to distinguish between a head-veil and a face-veil.[9] Strabo, writing in the 1st century, alludes to some Persian women veiling their faces (Geography, 11. 9-10).[not in citation given] In addition, the early 3rd-century Christian writer Tertullian, in his treatise The Veiling of Virgins, Ch. 17, describes pagan Arab women as veiling the entire face except the eyes, in the manner of a niqab. This shows that some Middle Eastern women veiled their faces long before Islam.

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  71. The NFL is doomed in LA. There are more NFL fans in Cleveland. Not enough whites and two big time college teams. It’s more like a Southern city, football-wise.

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    The NFL is doomed in LA. There are more NFL fans in Cleveland. Not enough whites and two big time college teams.
     
    A savvy LA team owner can make a profit by pulling in the Mexican fans. How? By recruiting angry Samoans and other Pacific Islanders. They need someone brownish to root for.
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  72. @Anon
    Shiite, now I've seen everything.

    BUSINESSMEN erect a GOLD statue of MAO.

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/afp-giant-statue-for-chinas-chairman-mao-2016-1

    giant mao = $460,000
    giant mlk = $120,000,000

    wonders of ferengi monumental art.

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  73. @rvg
    Is that any more pathetic than people here at Unz.com using IQ scores as a metric for admitting people in over things like racial survival?

    Yes.

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  74. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    I really don't know what Whitney was trying to do, except possibly demonstrate to the world why the Muslim world doesn't think women should go outside unescorted.

    I think “Whitney” is either a male troll trying to get a rise out of people for the lulz, or a masochistic exhibitionist currently refreshing this comment section with one hand, if you get my drift. It’s good to see that he/she has mostly been politely ignored, which is the best thing to do in either case.

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  75. You know the Muzzies are just checking out what they can and cannot get away with, which BTW seems to be a lot. This is real bad, because Muzzies see this passive German behavior as abject weakness and will become more and more aggressive.

    IOW Jihadism, bombs, massacres and random murders of Westerners will soon follow.

    The German police will do what it can, but sooner or later they will have their own Paris style attack or something worse.

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    The German police will do what it can...
     
    The senior officers are as bad as SJWs cos that's how they got promoted. Some of the junior ones will do what they can but overall the orders from on high will be to cover it all up - same as UK, France, Holland etc.

    But yes, given the numbers involved they won't be able to cover it up.
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  76. @Anonymous
    Speaking of LA sports, are you looking forward to there being potentially 3 LA NFL teams?

    I look forward to the Chargers leaving and am proud we stood up to the owner’s extortion. i hope they do something useful with the land so a new team moving here can’t be used to extort another city for a billion dollar transfer to a billionaire owner.

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    Dumbasses in Florida just got extorted by the billionaire hockey team owner. Hockey!!!! 200 million or so. The only thing unknown is who was bribed, how much and in what way?
    Team is Florida Panthers btw.

    You all should have held up signs saying "Chargers GTFO"

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  77. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson
    "I think a horny young Muslim man groping a young woman(prolly dressed like a whore),"

    Muslim men's definition of a "whore" is any woman who is not wearing traditional female Islamic clothing like a niqab, hijab, or a burka. So pretty much all Non Muslim women in the world are "whores" to them. Anon your mother would be a whore to them as well if she is not dressed in what Islamic law defines as appropriate clothing for women to be seen with in public.

    Not true.

    Plenty of women in the Muslim world dress modern.

    And Muslims didn’t regard British women as whores during the age of empire.

    Today’s western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.

    http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/here-s-that-allison-williams-sex-scene-from-girls-everyone-is-talking-about-49348

    The old way was better. Never dishonor the family.

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    "Not true.

    Plenty of women in the Muslim world dress modern."

    BULLSHIT ANON. If that were true, why are Infidel women who travel to Arab Muslim countries always forced to wear a niqab or a hijab.

    Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice for example were always wearing Islamic approved clothing for women whenever they traveled to Islamic countries.

    "Today’s western women really are whores."

    Yeah women in Miami Beach, Cancun, Rio De Janeiro, Havana, Malibu, Honolulu, Costa Rica, Santa Monica, Acapulco, etc should all dress like women in Syria, Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Pakistan,etc because if they don't than they are whores right Anon.

    It doesn't matter if it is 100F degrees outside, women still should not show any skin in public right Anon.

    If just the mere sight of exposed female skin automatically causes Arab Muslim men the urge to go out and rape the first Infidel woman they see, than Arab Muslim men have worse impulse control than African American men and Hispanic men. A lack of impulse control is associated with a lower IQ.

    , @anon
    In situations like this the people who crave the physical destruction of the european peoples need to divide the normal reaction by blaming the victim.
    , @Calogero
    This all started in the 60s. Mrs. Cleaver was no whore!
    , @anonguy

    Today’s western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.
     

    I abhor the behavior of the mob in Cologne of course, but I can hardly blame them for the impressions they've formed about western degeneracy. I'd bet that any Ozzies transported from 1950s or earlier western civ to the present day would come to conclusions closer to those of the refugees than those of a contemporary western male. They'd just differ only in what actions they might take based upon those conclusions and I'm not entirely convinced that a bunch of young, footloose partying 1950s western men might similarly conclude that they are in the midst of some Saturnalia, jungle rules apply, and decide to join the fun in some manner from which they would be inhibited in their original environment. And since they are new to all this, they might misjudge the situation a bit.

    Same thing sometimes happens with western guys visiting Boy's Towns along the Mexican border, current/former fleshpots like Thailand, Phillipines, etc., which can seem at first like anything goes, but even degenerated social milieus have some social boundaries that aren't at all obvious at first to people from more ordered societies.

    The only difference is that in Cologne they were running in a group of 1000+ as opposed to two or three bros getting out of hand in some unbelievable, to a typical middle class first world neophyte, red light district.

    Again, I'm not at all giving the mob a pass on behavior, but their initial conclusions aren't entirely irrational given the stark contrast between the way many women present these days in our society and theirs.

    Judging from the minimizing statements of the left-ish media/German authorities, it seems like this is one point where social conservatives and liberals may find some agreement

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  78. @Steve Sailer
    I recall an article out of Baghdad either right before or after the U.S. invasion in 2003 about the rise in popularity of shooting guns in the air to celebrate. A Baghdad doctor said it used to be just something that country bumpkins did, but it had spread to the capital. He'd recently attended the wedding of the daughter of the chief of surgery at his hospital in Baghdad and the chief of surgery fired a few rounds into the air to celebrate.

    I have never believed these bs stories about people being killed by bullets coming down from celebratory gunfire that is fired straight up in the air. There is just too low probability of that bullet hitting hard enough and in just the right place to kill. Its an urban myth.

    What does happen is that some drunken a-hole fires at a lower angle and nails someone. These incidents then get conflated with the straight up in the air celebratory gunfire. All of which has been going on in Yeb! land Miami for years.

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    I personally know a guy that was hit by a bullet emanating from celebratory gunfire. It happened in South Philadelphia on new year's eve 1999.

    Every year, articles are written about him in the local press encouraging people to refrain from this activity so that people do not suffer similar injuries.

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/12/31/authorities-warn-residents-do-not-fire-guns-to-celebrate-new-year/
    , @Dirk Dagger
    Thanks for the rigorous analysis, lifted the veil from my eyes.

    In related news:

    JAN 3, KABUL, Afghanistan – Afghanistan's Interior Ministry has warned against celebratory gunfire after the upcoming South Asia soccer final against India, hoping to avoid a repeat of the raucous celebrations that followed the national team's victory in 2013.

    Afghanistan will defend its title against India on Sunday in an eagerly awaited match seen as a point of pride in the war-ravaged country. Afghanistan, which defeated Sri Lanka 5-0 to advance to the finals, is expected to defeat India, which beat Maldives 4-1.

    The match will be played at Trivandrum International Stadium in Kerala, India, but Afghans can watch on a number of large screens set up around the capital and other cities.

    The championship is held every two years. India beat Afghanistan in 2011.
     
    , @iSteveFan

    I have never believed these bs stories about people being killed by bullets coming down from celebratory gunfire that is fired straight up in the air. There is just too low probability of that bullet hitting hard enough and in just the right place to kill. Its an urban myth.
     
    What about anti-aircraft rounds that come back down? Are there significant casualties caused by all that falling debris? I always remember the opening rounds of Desert Storm in 1991 with all those tracer rounds lighting up the sky over Baghdad. I always wondered what happened when they came back down.

    Also I wondered what happened with the expended shell casings coming out of fighters. A WW2 Mustang would drop its .50 caliber brass casings as it fired. Surely some of those rained down on European cities. Did they cause casualties?
    , @festivegunfire
    They're not bs stories. If you're ever experienced the practice up close, you'd understand by the sheer round of shots going off by multiple people, often in close quarters, bullets will eventually hit any improbable area, physics of gunfire be damned. If you visit a culture that practices festive gunfire, you won't have trouble meeting someone with a family member or friend who got killed during festive gunfire, seemingly out of nowhere, from an improbable angle (or someone who was killed in revenge). The cultural practice often coincides with cultures that practice vendetta killings, so naturally there are family sagas of long feuds, and (usually) males, even young boys, being killed in the aftermath of an accidental death from festive gunfire. I've been in the midst of "balofies" in Crete, and it was utterly terrifying, even purely from a visceral standpoint.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-35205145

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  79. @Lot
    I look forward to the Chargers leaving and am proud we stood up to the owner's extortion. i hope they do something useful with the land so a new team moving here can't be used to extort another city for a billion dollar transfer to a billionaire owner.

    Dumbasses in Florida just got extorted by the billionaire hockey team owner. Hockey!!!! 200 million or so. The only thing unknown is who was bribed, how much and in what way?
    Team is Florida Panthers btw.

    You all should have held up signs saying “Chargers GTFO”

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  80. @Horseball
    The NFL is doomed in LA. There are more NFL fans in Cleveland. Not enough whites and two big time college teams. It's more like a Southern city, football-wise.

    The NFL is doomed in LA. There are more NFL fans in Cleveland. Not enough whites and two big time college teams.

    A savvy LA team owner can make a profit by pulling in the Mexican fans. How? By recruiting angry Samoans and other Pacific Islanders. They need someone brownish to root for.

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  81. Greater Islamic Co-Prosperity Spehere ftw.

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  82. @Anon
    Not true.

    Plenty of women in the Muslim world dress modern.

    And Muslims didn't regard British women as whores during the age of empire.

    Today's western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.

    http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/here-s-that-allison-williams-sex-scene-from-girls-everyone-is-talking-about-49348

    The old way was better. Never dishonor the family.

    https://youtu.be/pvrVFb-RIQc?t=9s

    “Not true.

    Plenty of women in the Muslim world dress modern.”

    BULLSHIT ANON. If that were true, why are Infidel women who travel to Arab Muslim countries always forced to wear a niqab or a hijab.

    Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice for example were always wearing Islamic approved clothing for women whenever they traveled to Islamic countries.

    “Today’s western women really are whores.”

    Yeah women in Miami Beach, Cancun, Rio De Janeiro, Havana, Malibu, Honolulu, Costa Rica, Santa Monica, Acapulco, etc should all dress like women in Syria, Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Pakistan,etc because if they don’t than they are whores right Anon.

    It doesn’t matter if it is 100F degrees outside, women still should not show any skin in public right Anon.

    If just the mere sight of exposed female skin automatically causes Arab Muslim men the urge to go out and rape the first Infidel woman they see, than Arab Muslim men have worse impulse control than African American men and Hispanic men. A lack of impulse control is associated with a lower IQ.

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    Not all Muslim nations are the same.

    In a place like Saudi Arabia, you have to cover up.

    But plenty of women in Turkey dress modern. Also true of parts of Lebanon. And there were lots of modern-dressed women in Syria before ISIS went nuts.
    And look at Kurish women. Many of them show their hair and dress modern.
    , @tbraton
    I have lived in south Florida for more than 25 years, and I have long maintained we should apply a "bikini test" to prospective immigrants: "We are accustomed to dress very lightly when we go to the beach or a swimming pool. Are you comfortable having you wife, sister or daughter wearing a bikini at the beach?" A number of years ago when I was living in a different complex, I was at the pool when a woman showed up fully covered from neck to ankles and started swimming in the pool. I could easily guess the religion of the woman, and I was utterly repelled by the strange sight and felt cheated out of an opportunity to appraise a woman's body. (BTW I could care less whether the husband had shown up in that outfit, but, when a woman does so, there is something unAmerican about that practice. Where's Joe McCarthy when we really need him?) BTW here's a picture we can sure when administering the test. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/arts/music/zhu-chris-young-and-wiki-release-new-albums.html (scroll down to Darlene Ortiz).
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  83. Hey Anon if there was a poll asking Heterosexual Infidel men in in The U.S, Mexico, Italy, Brazil, Portugal, Colombia, Argentina, Spain, etc if they wish the women in their countries all dressed like women in Yemen and Kuwait for example, I bet the vast majority would say HELL NO. Not many Non Muslim Heterosexual men would want to see Adriana Lima or Scarlett Johansson for example dress as prudish as that ugly crazy dead Pakistani terrorist bitch in San Bernardino.

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    >> dress as prudish as that ugly crazy dead Pakistani terrorist bitch in San Bernardino.

    Go to a Pakistani wedding, the un-married girls of marriage-able age, display a fair amount .

    We are seeing pictures of Mrs Farooq AFTER she was engaged/married.

    If we could see the photos she posted of herself on the muslim dating site. Even the Saudi girls post somewhat alluring picture. There is no real choice - unless the family has enough money to hang out with other Saudis in Londonistan, where the girls can market themselves MUCH more aggressively.

    Arabs guys and SouthAsian guys are fixated on large tits and fat asses. Mama-sans in SouthAsia, give their new young-teen girls, pay for cattle hormones to fatten them up. It sells them better.
    , @Thea
    There is a tasteful middle ground.
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  84. There only two types of men who wish that the entire female population on the planet dressed as prudish as women in Islamic countries, Muslim men and Homosexual men. Sometimes the two overlap because I have read about incidents in the Middle East of some Arab Muslim men having sex with little boys.

    I will question the Heterosexuality of any man who is digusted and repulsed by the mere sight of Olivia Munn for example in a bikini.

    Which one are you Anon, are you a Lindsey Graham type or are you an Arab Muslim? Since Female skin offends you so much.

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  85. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard of Melbourne
    For the past few decades the Germans have asked for multiculturalism, and now they're getting it - good and hard.

    Exactly how much more of this outrageous behaviour will the Germans tolerate before they take decisive action against the underlying cause? Much, much more, if the Mayor of Cologne is in any sort of guide.

    God help the women of Germany (Merkel and friends excepted).

    For the past few decades the Germans have asked for multiculturalism, and now they’re getting it – good and hard.

    This is just a lie.

    The media have imposed this on the West by promoting those in favor and attacking anyone who opposed it.

    Did the US ask for same sex marriage or WWT? No they didn’t – the media imposed it.

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  86. @Whitney
    I spent 5 months in Europe for a study abroad program. While walking through city streets in Germany and the Netherlands, I was cat-called by Arabic and North African men, never the European men. A friend of mine was groped by a Turkish Muslim man in the streets of the Hague.

    Yes, I know it is disrespectful and against everything I've been taught and believe, but it's really hot.

    When men act like men are a little scary....I have to be honest...huge turn on.

    I know I should be horrified but I must admit we like it.

    Haha, that's probably why I've dated so many Muslim men .

    Hello Whiskey.

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  87. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @22pp22
    After Rotherham and Oxford and now this I am beginning to question if rape really is the heinous crime it is made out to be. When it happens, the first to defend the perp is always a woman.

    These events aren't an aberration. They are happening too often and on too great a scale. Child services in Oxforshire is an almost entirely female outfit and the abuse was carried on an industrial scale. The head retired at 57 and got a severance package of 600,000 pounds.

    Look at the statistical data, not the anecdotal data from your own personal experience.

    Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It's clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.

    The women you describe who run all the child protection agencies across western Europe and who are the first to cover up rape are all feminists who came out of the 1980′s radical feminist movement.

    So you’re partly right but it is a very distinct subset of women who are responsible for covering up mass rape when it contradicts PC.

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  88. @rvg
    I wonder what would ol Kaiser Wilhelm have to say over this present predicament.

    “All of that was nothing to do with me. Pass me another log”.

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  89. @22pp22
    After Rotherham and Oxford and now this I am beginning to question if rape really is the heinous crime it is made out to be. When it happens, the first to defend the perp is always a woman.

    These events aren't an aberration. They are happening too often and on too great a scale. Child services in Oxforshire is an almost entirely female outfit and the abuse was carried on an industrial scale. The head retired at 57 and got a severance package of 600,000 pounds.

    Look at the statistical data, not the anecdotal data from your own personal experience.

    Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It's clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.

    also, always check the ethnicity wherever possible

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  90. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/684351993423368192

    Yay! Platform shoes are back in. And is the Chairman rocking some loon pants too?

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  91. @gruff
    The Chinese have no instinct for sculpture. Never have. The famous terracotta army was of Greek inspiration (look it up!) and left no discernible trace in Chinese culture.

    “The Chinese have no instinct for sculpture. Never have.”

    Utter nonsense – you know nothing about art history. Their Liao dynasty sculptures of reclining Bodhisattvas are amongst the most beautiful examples of the plastic arts fashioned by members of our species.

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    Uhm their lifelike paintings were borrowed from Indo-Aryan techniques from India?
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  92. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @rod1963
    You know the Muzzies are just checking out what they can and cannot get away with, which BTW seems to be a lot. This is real bad, because Muzzies see this passive German behavior as abject weakness and will become more and more aggressive.

    IOW Jihadism, bombs, massacres and random murders of Westerners will soon follow.

    The German police will do what it can, but sooner or later they will have their own Paris style attack or something worse.

    The German police will do what it can…

    The senior officers are as bad as SJWs cos that’s how they got promoted. Some of the junior ones will do what they can but overall the orders from on high will be to cover it all up – same as UK, France, Holland etc.

    But yes, given the numbers involved they won’t be able to cover it up.

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    On second thoughts could be wrong on that. In France, UK etc this process was slower and allowed for the gradual replacement of senior officers with those vetted to toe the PC line - Merkel's blitzrape may mean there are more old style senior officers still in place - especially in the east.
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    BBC reporting is rather like their delayed response to Rotherham.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35241808

    "Cologne sex attacks: What went wrong?"

    "The area is notorious for crime. Residents in Cologne say the the area around Cologne Cathedral is a well-known danger zone when it comes to pickpockets and theft"

    The area did it!

    "Officials have urged people not to link the violence to Germany's influx of refugees."

    Move along, nothing to see.

    "Witnesses said police officers in Cologne appeared to be surprised and overwhelmed by the attacks. Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union, said there were simply not enough officers deployed on the night. But Cologne police chief Wolfgang Albers has insisted they were well prepared, with 70 federal officers in the station, and about 140 Cologne police officers around the cathedral area and city centre. Whatever the staffing numbers, however, it is clear officers on duty failed to stop the attacks...
    Meanwhile Mr Albers was forced to say the initial police assessment - describing a "relaxed atmosphere" in the city on New Year's Eve - was wrong. And, almost a week after the incident, only a handful of arrests have been made despite reports of hundreds of men being involved. "

    "Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker said "people from other cultures" needed to be given "a better explanation" about appropriate behaviour during street celebrations. However, experts stress that sexual violence is an issue for people of all ethnic origins. Figures show the majority of people carrying out sex attacks in Germany do not come from an immigrant background. "

    The word "yet" is missing. This is exactly what we were told in the UK when Rotherham started being reported.

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  93. @Rob McX

    There’s still some remnant common-sense in the Brit Army, I’m relieved to see.

    “The base was also reinforced with troops from 2 Scots, the Royal Highland Fusiliers, “to bolster security and reassure the local population” “.

    “When dealing with tribal savages, just chuck a load of Jock psychos at ‘em. Them or the Ghurkas.”

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  94. @Anon
    Not true.

    Plenty of women in the Muslim world dress modern.

    And Muslims didn't regard British women as whores during the age of empire.

    Today's western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.

    http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/here-s-that-allison-williams-sex-scene-from-girls-everyone-is-talking-about-49348

    The old way was better. Never dishonor the family.

    https://youtu.be/pvrVFb-RIQc?t=9s

    In situations like this the people who crave the physical destruction of the european peoples need to divide the normal reaction by blaming the victim.

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  95. @Anonymous
    Firing bullets into the air in 'celebration' is a very dumb thing to do.

    The basic laws of physics tell us, at a first approximation, if we ignore the effects of air resistance, that a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.
    When you consider the considerable muzzle velocity of an ak 47 bullet, and the effect on range on tilting the barrel just a merest fraction of a degree, then it is hardly surprising to read accounts of persons being killed by bullets 'coming out of nowhere' and placing themselves 'right top, dead center of the head' a considerable distance away from the discharge.

    a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.

    No it bloody doesn’t. Well not since an Italian and an Englishman invented Gravity it doesn’t. FFS.

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    Expletive Deleted >>> No it bloody doesn’t. Well not since an Italian and an Englishman invented Gravity it doesn’t. FFS.


    Will someone please introduce me to this guy. I've got a bridge I want to sell him.
    , @The most deplorable one
    Could you tell us a bit more about how Gravity prevents the bullet from coming down with the same speed it exited the barrel?

    In my wild, pre-scientific imagination I mistakenly thought that it was air resistance that reduced its speed on the way up and down (with gravity simply converting kinetic energy on the way up to potential energy and then the other way on the way down), but I am willing to believe that it's due to quantum gravity fluctuations or something.
    , @Anonymous
    Well done, my man!

    You've just invented the world's first perpetual motion machine - and violated the law of thermodynamics in the process!
    What's more, you've just solved the world's energy problem at a stroke!

    Who taught you physics?
    Evel Knieval ? - as John Thaw might have said -(obscure reference only known to afficiandos of 1970s British TV Cockney crime dramas).

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  96. @Gary C.
    "The Chinese have no instinct for sculpture. Never have."

    Utter nonsense - you know nothing about art history. Their Liao dynasty sculptures of reclining Bodhisattvas are amongst the most beautiful examples of the plastic arts fashioned by members of our species.

    Uhm their lifelike paintings were borrowed from Indo-Aryan techniques from India?

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  97. @Kylie
    So you enjoy being mistaken for a goat.

    That's nice. Thanks for sharing.

    It does happen. It’s Munich. Naughty Germans, flaunting yourselves at those poor lonely arab boys like that.

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  98. Cologne deserves more attention from all of us, since it is a mix of two things that won’t go well in the future:

    For one, Cologne is the major city with the highest share of Muslims in Germany, which is around 15%, three times the average in Germany and higher than in Berlin (8%), Hamburg (9%), Munich (10%), Frankfurt (14%), Stuttgart (9%) and Düsseldorf (8%). The share is lower than in European hotbeds of muslim immigration like Brussels, Birmingham or Marseille, where the share touches 25% but still.

    Secondly, Cologne is alongside Berlin one of the two capitals of gay culture in Germany.

    It will be very interesting to see how this turns out in the long run.

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  99. how to deal with the influx of young, mostly Muslim men from more socially conservative cultures

    They did it again. They really want to by associate problematic muslims abroad with red tribe at home. As if the problem with Muslim men is their “social conservatism”, not their lack of inhibition and self control.

    South Korea is an extremelly social conservative culture but we do not see gangs of hundreds of Korean men groping white women in public in California.

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  100. @Anon
    Not true.

    Plenty of women in the Muslim world dress modern.

    And Muslims didn't regard British women as whores during the age of empire.

    Today's western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.

    http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/here-s-that-allison-williams-sex-scene-from-girls-everyone-is-talking-about-49348

    The old way was better. Never dishonor the family.

    https://youtu.be/pvrVFb-RIQc?t=9s

    This all started in the 60s. Mrs. Cleaver was no whore!

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  101. @anon
    Wow. I never thought I'd get to read the internal monologue of those teenage girls who went off to join ISIS, but there it was.

    How about that.

    Lessons learned from two decades as a Westerner living and working among Muslims in the Middle East:

    1. Muslim men grow up believing that women have uncontrollable sexual desires. They look for any and every opportunity to mate. Exposing their bare arms, legs, and feminine curves or making eye contact are seen as signaling … sexual invitations. If there is a sexual misadventure, it is the female’s fault for sexually taunting the male … kind of like a woman playing out a rape fantasy.

    2. This is why women need to be protected from themselves in harems and cover their bodies in public for their own well-being … it’s part of the way that the superior Islamic culture cares for their own.

    3. We know that Western culture needs to accommodate our new “guests” by forcing Western women into chador and isolating them in harems. If we don’t, we know whose fault it is and who must bear the responsibility for the consequences. This is because the Muslims won’t change (their religion forbids it). So … WE have to change.

    Imagine! Western men actually allow their women to run around half-naked and behave like sluts in public. How irresponsible can they be! Just look at the legions of “out of control” Western women taunting men as they promenade in public places.

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    1. Muslim men grow up believing that women have uncontrollable sexual desires. They look for any and every opportunity to mate. Exposing their bare arms, legs, and feminine curves or making eye contact are seen as signaling … sexual invitations. If there is a sexual misadventure, it is the female’s fault for sexually taunting the male … kind of like a woman playing out a rape fantasy.

    Maybe this is somewhat true for Arab women. After all, peoples are different. Maybe female circumcision was an innovation to prevent love marriages, prevent daughters from being honor killed etc.

    Also remember that there is still incentive for a woman to want to have alpha seed rather than receive it from her beta husband. If they are trapped under a rug their whole life it's carpe diem baby!
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Muslim men grow up believing that women have uncontrollable sexual desires.
     
    Projection.

    It's Mohammedan men who can't process the thrill they get from a flash of female skin escaping a burning building. Most of the world's men would rise chivalrously to the occasion and feel heroic saving the girls' lives. Not Arabs, the childrace. They know their own kind, too.

    "Arabs are the joke of the world." --Col. Gaddafi
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  102. @TomSchmidt
    Surely in a world where every cop shooting is on camera there must be video? Let the Germans view who did this for themselves. No need to claim it was group X or Group Y.

    My bet: that frat from Virginia has some splainin' to do.

    I’d guess those who pulled a camera during a mass robbery were also robbed.

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  103. @Clyde
    I have never believed these bs stories about people being killed by bullets coming down from celebratory gunfire that is fired straight up in the air. There is just too low probability of that bullet hitting hard enough and in just the right place to kill. Its an urban myth.

    What does happen is that some drunken a-hole fires at a lower angle and nails someone. These incidents then get conflated with the straight up in the air celebratory gunfire. All of which has been going on in Yeb! land Miami for years.

    I personally know a guy that was hit by a bullet emanating from celebratory gunfire. It happened in South Philadelphia on new year’s eve 1999.

    Every year, articles are written about him in the local press encouraging people to refrain from this activity so that people do not suffer similar injuries.

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/12/31/authorities-warn-residents-do-not-fire-guns-to-celebrate-new-year/

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  104. @Jefferson
    Hey Anon if there was a poll asking Heterosexual Infidel men in in The U.S, Mexico, Italy, Brazil, Portugal, Colombia, Argentina, Spain, etc if they wish the women in their countries all dressed like women in Yemen and Kuwait for example, I bet the vast majority would say HELL NO. Not many Non Muslim Heterosexual men would want to see Adriana Lima or Scarlett Johansson for example dress as prudish as that ugly crazy dead Pakistani terrorist bitch in San Bernardino.

    >> dress as prudish as that ugly crazy dead Pakistani terrorist bitch in San Bernardino.

    Go to a Pakistani wedding, the un-married girls of marriage-able age, display a fair amount .

    We are seeing pictures of Mrs Farooq AFTER she was engaged/married.

    If we could see the photos she posted of herself on the muslim dating site. Even the Saudi girls post somewhat alluring picture. There is no real choice – unless the family has enough money to hang out with other Saudis in Londonistan, where the girls can market themselves MUCH more aggressively.

    Arabs guys and SouthAsian guys are fixated on large tits and fat asses. Mama-sans in SouthAsia, give their new young-teen girls, pay for cattle hormones to fatten them up. It sells them better.

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  105. @Anonymous

    a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.
     
    No it bloody doesn't. Well not since an Italian and an Englishman invented Gravity it doesn't. FFS.

    Expletive Deleted >>> No it bloody doesn’t. Well not since an Italian and an Englishman invented Gravity it doesn’t. FFS.

    Will someone please introduce me to this guy. I’ve got a bridge I want to sell him.

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    I think he's the same bloke who 'does his bollocks' in claiming that Norway was a colonial power.
    If you respectfully disagree with him, he'll call you a 'cnut'.
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  106. @Elmer T. Jones
    Slate's headline is "Organized Groups of Men Sexually Assaulted Dozens of Women in Cologne on New Year’s Eve". Could be frat boys, no one is certain.

    Salon hasn't mentioned it yet.

    Haven Mohammed Nahan?

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  107. Today’s headline from the rabidly pro-immigration Wall Street Journal:

    “Alleged New Year’s Assaults Feed Into German Migrant Debate”

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/reports-of-new-years-eve-sexual-assaults-feed-into-german-debate-over-migrant-crisis-1452004203

    “Alleged” — as if there were any doubt whatsoever that the attacks occurred. “Alleged” by everyone who was there, and by the chief of police — or rather, “alleged” by every GERMAN who was there; no word yet from the attacking army of foreigners.

    Interestingly, if you look at the hyperlink, you will see the original headline: “Reports of New Year’s Eve Sexual Assaults Feed into German Debate over Migrant Crisis”. Somebody decided to add “alleged” and to delete “sexual” and “crisis,” in a transparent effort to minimize the reality of what is happening.

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  108. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    The German police will do what it can...
     
    The senior officers are as bad as SJWs cos that's how they got promoted. Some of the junior ones will do what they can but overall the orders from on high will be to cover it all up - same as UK, France, Holland etc.

    But yes, given the numbers involved they won't be able to cover it up.

    On second thoughts could be wrong on that. In France, UK etc this process was slower and allowed for the gradual replacement of senior officers with those vetted to toe the PC line – Merkel’s blitzrape may mean there are more old style senior officers still in place – especially in the east.

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  109. @inertial
    Well, I did say more protection, not more freedom.

    BTW, I looked into the history of the Arab dress. Turns out, it wasn't something that men had imposed on women. Rather, it was a result of intrasexual competition (which is probably true of all female clothing styles in all eras.)

    In today's West women compete in how much they can reveal. In the early Medieval Middle East the arms race ran in the opposite direction. High status women started to cover themselves up in order to demonstrate their superior virtue. Lower status women began copying them. So, the high status women had to drape themselves even more. And so on, toward the logical conclusion.

    This kind of thing does not necessarily apply to Muslim. Here is a small Orthodox Jewish burqa sect. Not surprisingly, it is driven entirely by women. The men, even the most fundamentalist of the rabbis, consider them crazy.

    Many years ago, I saw a tv interview with a Saudi woman who had lived in Switzerland for a few years. She said something along these lines: “Husbands in the west do not love their wives. If they loved them, they would not force them to go uncovered in public, where they can be insulted by every man in the street.”

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  110. @Mark2
    The emancipation of women will be the final demise of civilization: Exhibit A

    Relax, some dude is just trolling…

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  111. “Reports of Attacks on Women in Germany Heighten Tension Over Migrants”

    Well THAT problem is easily solved! Since the “reports” are the problem (and not the rapes) just stop all “reporting”.

    1. If a German girl goes to the police and “reports” a rape, arrest her for group slander.

    2. If someone posts a photo of a rape on Facebook, arrest them for racism.

    3. Etc.

    Pretty soon there will be no more “reports” and the “tensions” will disappear! Simple!

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  112. @22pp22
    After Rotherham and Oxford and now this I am beginning to question if rape really is the heinous crime it is made out to be. When it happens, the first to defend the perp is always a woman.

    These events aren't an aberration. They are happening too often and on too great a scale. Child services in Oxforshire is an almost entirely female outfit and the abuse was carried on an industrial scale. The head retired at 57 and got a severance package of 600,000 pounds.

    Look at the statistical data, not the anecdotal data from your own personal experience.

    Be that as it may, it is clear from the reaction of liberal women to mass rape that the crime needs to be downgraded hugely. It's clearly not that bad. Maybe a warning for a first offence, a small fine for a second offence and a couple of months in jail for a third offence.

    Education will solve everything. I say we send Michelle into the refugee camps to “raise their consciousness”. That would be fun to watch.

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  113. @Jefferson
    Hey Anon if there was a poll asking Heterosexual Infidel men in in The U.S, Mexico, Italy, Brazil, Portugal, Colombia, Argentina, Spain, etc if they wish the women in their countries all dressed like women in Yemen and Kuwait for example, I bet the vast majority would say HELL NO. Not many Non Muslim Heterosexual men would want to see Adriana Lima or Scarlett Johansson for example dress as prudish as that ugly crazy dead Pakistani terrorist bitch in San Bernardino.

    There is a tasteful middle ground.

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  114. @Clyde
    Houellebecq wrote a novel. Is this going on today? That their burqa clad women get really sexy at night along with some Victoria's Secret lingerie? There are many Muslim female cover options ranging on downward from the burqa. I see them with their scarves on where I live. No burqas. At a beach I once saw a Muslim family show up with three children. The wife looked decent (no fatty) and was fairly well covered up. She went into the ocean this way. I did not see the drying off process if there was one.

    What with all the Muslim gropers filling up Europe, I look forward to more conservative female dress and the return of bathing machines.

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    Thanks. I read the link about bathing machines. All new to me.
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  115. @anon

    The German police will do what it can...
     
    The senior officers are as bad as SJWs cos that's how they got promoted. Some of the junior ones will do what they can but overall the orders from on high will be to cover it all up - same as UK, France, Holland etc.

    But yes, given the numbers involved they won't be able to cover it up.

    BBC reporting is rather like their delayed response to Rotherham.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35241808

    “Cologne sex attacks: What went wrong?”

    “The area is notorious for crime. Residents in Cologne say the the area around Cologne Cathedral is a well-known danger zone when it comes to pickpockets and theft”

    The area did it!

    “Officials have urged people not to link the violence to Germany’s influx of refugees.”

    Move along, nothing to see.

    “Witnesses said police officers in Cologne appeared to be surprised and overwhelmed by the attacks. Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union, said there were simply not enough officers deployed on the night. But Cologne police chief Wolfgang Albers has insisted they were well prepared, with 70 federal officers in the station, and about 140 Cologne police officers around the cathedral area and city centre. Whatever the staffing numbers, however, it is clear officers on duty failed to stop the attacks…
    Meanwhile Mr Albers was forced to say the initial police assessment – describing a “relaxed atmosphere” in the city on New Year’s Eve – was wrong. And, almost a week after the incident, only a handful of arrests have been made despite reports of hundreds of men being involved. ”

    “Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker said “people from other cultures” needed to be given “a better explanation” about appropriate behaviour during street celebrations. However, experts stress that sexual violence is an issue for people of all ethnic origins. Figures show the majority of people carrying out sex attacks in Germany do not come from an immigrant background. “

    The word “yet” is missing. This is exactly what we were told in the UK when Rotherham started being reported.

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    "The area did it!"
     
    An unforeseen discontinuity in the Magic Dirt has been revealed. Does the Magic rub off eventually, if over-polished by huddled masses?
    Whatever; it must be replenished right away, using Eurobillions. It's our Duty.
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  116. @TomSchmidt
    Surely in a world where every cop shooting is on camera there must be video? Let the Germans view who did this for themselves. No need to claim it was group X or Group Y.

    My bet: that frat from Virginia has some splainin' to do.

    Here’s some video:

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  117. @Clyde
    I have never believed these bs stories about people being killed by bullets coming down from celebratory gunfire that is fired straight up in the air. There is just too low probability of that bullet hitting hard enough and in just the right place to kill. Its an urban myth.

    What does happen is that some drunken a-hole fires at a lower angle and nails someone. These incidents then get conflated with the straight up in the air celebratory gunfire. All of which has been going on in Yeb! land Miami for years.

    Thanks for the rigorous analysis, lifted the veil from my eyes.

    In related news:

    JAN 3, KABUL, Afghanistan – Afghanistan’s Interior Ministry has warned against celebratory gunfire after the upcoming South Asia soccer final against India, hoping to avoid a repeat of the raucous celebrations that followed the national team’s victory in 2013.

    Afghanistan will defend its title against India on Sunday in an eagerly awaited match seen as a point of pride in the war-ravaged country. Afghanistan, which defeated Sri Lanka 5-0 to advance to the finals, is expected to defeat India, which beat Maldives 4-1.

    The match will be played at Trivandrum International Stadium in Kerala, India, but Afghans can watch on a number of large screens set up around the capital and other cities.

    The championship is held every two years. India beat Afghanistan in 2011.

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  118. @Pseudonymic Handle
    What the mayoress did was to publish new guidelines for women on how to behave. She would never dare say something about the migrants.

    What the mayoress did was to publish new guidelines for women on how to behave.

    Imagine what would happen if, instead of “teaching men not to rape,” an American college president dared to offer such guidelines as a way to stem the epidemic of campus rapes. (Perhaps I should have said “epidemic”.)

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  119. He doesn’t go far enough, but Paul Craig Roberts at least has it right in the headline:

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/01/06/german-women-pay-the-price-of-germany-being-an-american-puppet-state/

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  120. @Michelle
    These comments are really amazing and sound like they're right out of Lutz Bachman's mouth (nice work, Donald!). First, not all the facts about the attacks have rolled in. Second, while it's true that MOST refugees are Muslim and SOME have views on the role of women that are different than what one might find in the West, it doesn't mean that all refugees and Muslims think like this. We know many refugees in the state of Saxony, where anti-refugee protests and attacks are at the highest in all of Germany. I haven't met any refugees who are the demons you all are making them out to be. In fact, those we know are happy to learn German and learn the ways of living in Germany, and look forward to starting a new life. Sorry to disappoint, but Europe isn't going anywhere and Merkel indeed knows what she's doing.

    Sarcasm, I assume??

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  121. @Formerly CARealist
    I like how the NYT describes these barbaric cultures as "socially conservative" because abusing women is okay. Yeah, like all our social conservatives here are secretly assaulting women who don't wear proper clothing or have a guy with them.

    this language matters!

    I like how the NYT describes these barbaric cultures as “socially conservative” because abusing women is okay. Yeah, like all our social conservatives here are secretly assaulting women who don’t wear proper clothing or have a guy with them.

    this language matters!

    That’s a favorite trick with the NYT: in a similar vein, they at least used to refer to Spain’s center-right Partido Popular as “right-wing,” when of course any Euro center-right party will in many ways be to the left of either party in the US. Not to mention that in the context of recent Spanish history, “right-wing” makes the PP sound like a reanimated Falange

    (Their other goofball bit of misdirection was to translate Partido Popular as “Popular Party,” as though the horrible prom kings and queens were trying to take over the Kingdom of Spain. The obvious correct translation is “People’s Party.”)

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  122. From RT. Continuing to use measures against “hate crimes” as a way of silencing the anti-immigrant political opposition in Germany:

    “The German Social Democrats have proposed the country’s domestic intelligence agency monitor two of the country’s most vocal far-right organizations – the AfD party and PEGIDA, saying the “brown demagogues” play on popular fears and stir up hate.”

    https://www.rt.com/news/328081-germany-afd-pegida-monitoring/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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  123. hundreds of young men broke into groups and formed rings around young women

    Where were German men in all this? Why don’t we hear about North African and Middle Eastern men admitted to hospital with broken jaws, cracked skulls, ruptured spleens? Surely even in gun-shy Germany, it’s ok to protect your women from assault?

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    ".. it’s ok to protect your women .. "
     
    Patriarchal Scheissherr. As has been made abundantly clear by (I think) all northern European women, they want absolutely nothing to do with dull, conformist northern European men, still less be possessed by them. It's a hard concept for primitive foreigners of all sorts to grasp.
    These are not "our" women.
    They're just a kind of annoying insolent lodger, who's always rooting through your stuff and cadging loans while pleading poverty, and blaming you for their plight.
    If they want to sort out the vibrancy, they'll have to go all princess Rey on them on their own account. Maybe some female Marines should step up?
    , @bossel

    Surely even in gun-shy Germany, it’s ok to protect your women from assault?
     
    Try that when you're surrounded by dozens of half-drunk, aggressive arseholes. Won't do you (or your girlfriend) any good.

    It might have been different if it had not been at the train station (& in a crowd of 1000). If it had been say 20 arseholes doing this in front of a pub, people would have called up some friends & there would have been a mass brawl. Happens occasionally in Germany (just like in other countries).
    Even if you could call some friends, when they arrive what can they do. Will you be able to identify the bunch of people who attacked you in that huge crowd?

    I would not be surprised though, if this year we will see a similar crowd of German hooligans looking for trouble. Could be fun, next new year's eve...


    @ Pseudonymic Handle

    What the mayoress did was to publish new guidelines for women on how to behave. She would never dare say something about the migrants.
     
    You're easily fooled by the media? She was asked by a reporter specifically what women could do to keep safe. Off-hand she made that remark. There are no published guidelines like this.
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  124. Dirk Dagger [AKA "Chico Caldera"] says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    I recall an article out of Baghdad either right before or after the U.S. invasion in 2003 about the rise in popularity of shooting guns in the air to celebrate. A Baghdad doctor said it used to be just something that country bumpkins did, but it had spread to the capital. He'd recently attended the wedding of the daughter of the chief of surgery at his hospital in Baghdad and the chief of surgery fired a few rounds into the air to celebrate.

    There’s an old Mythbusters episode on celebratory gunfire and lethality. I won’t spoil it by giving their verdict on Bullets Fired Up (their title) but the analysis is a taco for thinking.

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  125. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalyse"] says:
    @Anonymous

    a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.
     
    No it bloody doesn't. Well not since an Italian and an Englishman invented Gravity it doesn't. FFS.

    Could you tell us a bit more about how Gravity prevents the bullet from coming down with the same speed it exited the barrel?

    In my wild, pre-scientific imagination I mistakenly thought that it was air resistance that reduced its speed on the way up and down (with gravity simply converting kinetic energy on the way up to potential energy and then the other way on the way down), but I am willing to believe that it’s due to quantum gravity fluctuations or something.

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    It will reach its high point faster than it will return. Look up "terminal velocity" which in this case will be much lower than muzzle velocity.
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  126. @Harry Baldwin
    Is that a photo of the actual statue or a crappy Photoshop simulation? If the former, I have to admit I thought the Chinese couldn't make a cruder, uglier statue than the one they did of Martin Luther King for Washington, DC.

    I presume the statue is whimsically referred to as Mao Luther King by now – ?

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  127. Pro tip: There are no women on iSteve. All female posters are trolls. Carry on.

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  128. @Anonymous
    Firing bullets into the air in 'celebration' is a very dumb thing to do.

    The basic laws of physics tell us, at a first approximation, if we ignore the effects of air resistance, that a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.
    When you consider the considerable muzzle velocity of an ak 47 bullet, and the effect on range on tilting the barrel just a merest fraction of a degree, then it is hardly surprising to read accounts of persons being killed by bullets 'coming out of nowhere' and placing themselves 'right top, dead center of the head' a considerable distance away from the discharge.

    The basic laws of physics tell us, at a first approximation, if we ignore the effects of air resistance, that a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.

    Uncanny how this follows the recent physics thread.

    The above statement isn’t even wrong, it is just nonsense.

    First, if we ignore air resistance, i.e, we can’t in any meaningful way talk about hurling something into the air, since the only effect of air, apart from nearly negligible buoyancy, gravitational effects of air mass, etc, is air resistance. But I’ll concede that is pedantic. Anyhow, the author seems to have meant to say in a vacuum.

    In this case, the basic laws of physics don’t tell us at a first approximation, that … Rather, the basic laws of physics, if whether classical or modern, tell us that that the body will return at exactly the same velocity.

    However, if we do consider the effects of air, it isn’t to a first approximation except for very short distances. A falling human body in a prone position reaches 120 mph and gets to that pretty quickly.

    From wikipedia:

    “Higher speeds can be attained if the skydiver pulls in his or her limbs (see also freeflying). In this case, the terminal velocity increases to about 320 km/h (200 mph or 90 m/s),[2] which is almost the terminal velocity of the peregrine falcon diving down on its prey.[3] The same terminal velocity is reached for a typical .30-06 bullet dropping downwards—when it is returning to earth having been fired upwards, or dropped from a tower—according to a 1920 U.S. Army Ordnance study.[4]”

    A common physics 101 problem is working this out and students are generally amazed to find out that if you fall out of a 4th story window or so you achieve 90% or so (I qualify with “or so” because it is been a long time since I’ve done the math) of the velocity you’d achieve if you fell out of a plane at 5000 feet. Or 50,000 feet, etc.

    That isn’t a first order of approximation at all – again, in some extremely limited, low distance/low velocity cases one might justify this, but as a general case and specifically in one with the muzzle velocity of typical bullets and the height they achieve, it is not just inaccurate, it is directly at odds with the facts.

    That all being said, a typical bullet, regardless of what aspect it assumes, striking the top of one’s head at ~200 mph sounds like it could do some heavy damage – I’m not disputing that.

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  129. @Clyde
    I have never believed these bs stories about people being killed by bullets coming down from celebratory gunfire that is fired straight up in the air. There is just too low probability of that bullet hitting hard enough and in just the right place to kill. Its an urban myth.

    What does happen is that some drunken a-hole fires at a lower angle and nails someone. These incidents then get conflated with the straight up in the air celebratory gunfire. All of which has been going on in Yeb! land Miami for years.

    I have never believed these bs stories about people being killed by bullets coming down from celebratory gunfire that is fired straight up in the air. There is just too low probability of that bullet hitting hard enough and in just the right place to kill. Its an urban myth.

    What about anti-aircraft rounds that come back down? Are there significant casualties caused by all that falling debris? I always remember the opening rounds of Desert Storm in 1991 with all those tracer rounds lighting up the sky over Baghdad. I always wondered what happened when they came back down.

    Also I wondered what happened with the expended shell casings coming out of fighters. A WW2 Mustang would drop its .50 caliber brass casings as it fired. Surely some of those rained down on European cities. Did they cause casualties?

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    "What about anti-aircraft rounds that come back down? Are there significant casualties caused by all that falling debris? I always remember the opening rounds of Desert Storm in 1991 with all those tracer rounds lighting up the sky over Baghdad. I always wondered what happened when they came back down.

    Also I wondered what happened with the expended shell casings coming out of fighters. A WW2 Mustang would drop its .50 caliber brass casings as it fired. Surely some of those rained down on European cities. Did they cause casualties?"

    According to this thread, the answer is yes for falling shrapnel at least and furthermore, plenty, this can be a very major cause of casualties. I didn't see anything about casings, though.

    http://www.ww2f.com/topic/36323-ground-casualties-from-air-battles/

    , @Anonymous Nephew
    My grandparents had some WW2 shrapnel (from AA artillery defending their city) in the kitchen drawer. Heavy, jagged stuff - maybe three ounces a piece and with sharp edges - I think falling from any height greater than 10 or 15 feet, it would be fatal to an unprotected head.

    On the topic of Cologne and sexual assault, the Slutwalk community has been very quiet lately.

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  130. @Anonymous Nephew
    BBC reporting is rather like their delayed response to Rotherham.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35241808

    "Cologne sex attacks: What went wrong?"

    "The area is notorious for crime. Residents in Cologne say the the area around Cologne Cathedral is a well-known danger zone when it comes to pickpockets and theft"

    The area did it!

    "Officials have urged people not to link the violence to Germany's influx of refugees."

    Move along, nothing to see.

    "Witnesses said police officers in Cologne appeared to be surprised and overwhelmed by the attacks. Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union, said there were simply not enough officers deployed on the night. But Cologne police chief Wolfgang Albers has insisted they were well prepared, with 70 federal officers in the station, and about 140 Cologne police officers around the cathedral area and city centre. Whatever the staffing numbers, however, it is clear officers on duty failed to stop the attacks...
    Meanwhile Mr Albers was forced to say the initial police assessment - describing a "relaxed atmosphere" in the city on New Year's Eve - was wrong. And, almost a week after the incident, only a handful of arrests have been made despite reports of hundreds of men being involved. "

    "Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker said "people from other cultures" needed to be given "a better explanation" about appropriate behaviour during street celebrations. However, experts stress that sexual violence is an issue for people of all ethnic origins. Figures show the majority of people carrying out sex attacks in Germany do not come from an immigrant background. "

    The word "yet" is missing. This is exactly what we were told in the UK when Rotherham started being reported.

    “The area did it!”

    An unforeseen discontinuity in the Magic Dirt has been revealed. Does the Magic rub off eventually, if over-polished by huddled masses?
    Whatever; it must be replenished right away, using Eurobillions. It’s our Duty.

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  131. @Anon
    Not true.

    Plenty of women in the Muslim world dress modern.

    And Muslims didn't regard British women as whores during the age of empire.

    Today's western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.

    http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/here-s-that-allison-williams-sex-scene-from-girls-everyone-is-talking-about-49348

    The old way was better. Never dishonor the family.

    https://youtu.be/pvrVFb-RIQc?t=9s

    Today’s western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.

    I abhor the behavior of the mob in Cologne of course, but I can hardly blame them for the impressions they’ve formed about western degeneracy. I’d bet that any Ozzies transported from 1950s or earlier western civ to the present day would come to conclusions closer to those of the refugees than those of a contemporary western male. They’d just differ only in what actions they might take based upon those conclusions and I’m not entirely convinced that a bunch of young, footloose partying 1950s western men might similarly conclude that they are in the midst of some Saturnalia, jungle rules apply, and decide to join the fun in some manner from which they would be inhibited in their original environment. And since they are new to all this, they might misjudge the situation a bit.

    Same thing sometimes happens with western guys visiting Boy’s Towns along the Mexican border, current/former fleshpots like Thailand, Phillipines, etc., which can seem at first like anything goes, but even degenerated social milieus have some social boundaries that aren’t at all obvious at first to people from more ordered societies.

    The only difference is that in Cologne they were running in a group of 1000+ as opposed to two or three bros getting out of hand in some unbelievable, to a typical middle class first world neophyte, red light district.

    Again, I’m not at all giving the mob a pass on behavior, but their initial conclusions aren’t entirely irrational given the stark contrast between the way many women present these days in our society and theirs.

    Judging from the minimizing statements of the left-ish media/German authorities, it seems like this is one point where social conservatives and liberals may find some agreement

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    , @ben tillman

    They’d just differ only in what actions they might take based upon those conclusions and I’m not entirely convinced that a bunch of young, footloose partying 1950s western men might similarly conclude that they are in the midst of some Saturnalia, jungle rules apply, and decide to join the fun in some manner from which they would be inhibited in their original environment.
     
    Well, I'm entirely convinced. Such men would be able to see that other men are not acting as if they were in the midst of a Saturnalia.
    , @Anon
    What happened in Haight-Asbury that supposedly epitomized love and peace in the 60s?
    So many young girls were taken advantage by louts and thugs and hornballs.

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1968/12/28/page/28/article/10-hippies-held-in-girls-rape-and-slaying

    https://amietheauthor.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/the-haight-was-full-of-hate-the-true-story-of-the-summer-of-love/

    I don't see this as a Muslim problem. And I don't think the main reason is because all these young men got their ideas from the Koran.

    When you create conditions were lots of rough young men are allowed to invade a territory and given freedom to rampage around, this will happen, especially if the word is out that western women are 'begging for it' --- according to pop culture --- and western men are too afraid to stand up for their women.

    What did Soviet troops do in WWII? They didn't just rape German women but just about any women they could get their hands on.
    But there was a good deal of rapes and rampaging by US soldiers too. They were not Muslim. And what happened in Nanking? Buddhist Japanese did that stuff.

    Germany and etc are not in a state of war, but they created war-like conditions, especially since these 'refugees' are escaping from war zones. For yrs, they've lived in desperation, chaos, and anarchy. They are hungry, horny, shellshocked. They've been animalized by constant warfare and destruction. And degraded by internet culture of whore-ism and western trashism that makes them both long for the west in animal delight and despise it for its moral degradation.

    They feel both anger and gratitude to be in the West. They see the West as having created this havoc in the Middle East but they are also happy to be inside rich nations. And their expectations are high. They want free stuff, they want women.

    Besides, these guys would NOT be in Europe if Western nations hadn't surrendered to the GLOB. The power of GLOB, through media-academia-government say that 'European values' must call for deracination. Having surrendered to the GLOB, western nations opened their borders to the Muslim hordes and African hordes since the GLOB orders such.

    In ancient Babylon, adults sacrificed young children to some terrible god.
    Today, white folks sacrifice their children to toxic mammon of Pop Culture(that turns youngsters into whores or pimps) and Political Correctness(that lobotomized whites of their racial-survival instinct).

    The Muslim punks are taking advantage of the situation. But they didn't create it.
    If you cut yourself open and expose it, germs and flies will soon do their thing.
    , @ben tillman

    I’d bet that any Ozzies transported from 1950s or earlier western civ to the present day would come to conclusions closer to those of the refugees than those of a contemporary western male. They’d just differ only in what actions they might take based upon those conclusions and I’m not entirely convinced that a bunch of young, footloose partying 1950s western men might similarly conclude that they are in the midst of some Saturnalia, jungle rules apply, and decide to join the fun in some manner from which they would be inhibited in their original environment.
     
    And another thing: This was JANUARY in GERMANY!

    The women weren't running around half-naked.
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  132. @International Jew

    hundreds of young men broke into groups and formed rings around young women
     
    Where were German men in all this? Why don't we hear about North African and Middle Eastern men admitted to hospital with broken jaws, cracked skulls, ruptured spleens? Surely even in gun-shy Germany, it's ok to protect your women from assault?

    “.. it’s ok to protect your women .. “

    Patriarchal Scheissherr. As has been made abundantly clear by (I think) all northern European women, they want absolutely nothing to do with dull, conformist northern European men, still less be possessed by them. It’s a hard concept for primitive foreigners of all sorts to grasp.
    These are not “our” women.
    They’re just a kind of annoying insolent lodger, who’s always rooting through your stuff and cadging loans while pleading poverty, and blaming you for their plight.
    If they want to sort out the vibrancy, they’ll have to go all princess Rey on them on their own account. Maybe some female Marines should step up?

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  133. @iSteveFan

    I have never believed these bs stories about people being killed by bullets coming down from celebratory gunfire that is fired straight up in the air. There is just too low probability of that bullet hitting hard enough and in just the right place to kill. Its an urban myth.
     
    What about anti-aircraft rounds that come back down? Are there significant casualties caused by all that falling debris? I always remember the opening rounds of Desert Storm in 1991 with all those tracer rounds lighting up the sky over Baghdad. I always wondered what happened when they came back down.

    Also I wondered what happened with the expended shell casings coming out of fighters. A WW2 Mustang would drop its .50 caliber brass casings as it fired. Surely some of those rained down on European cities. Did they cause casualties?

    “What about anti-aircraft rounds that come back down? Are there significant casualties caused by all that falling debris? I always remember the opening rounds of Desert Storm in 1991 with all those tracer rounds lighting up the sky over Baghdad. I always wondered what happened when they came back down.

    Also I wondered what happened with the expended shell casings coming out of fighters. A WW2 Mustang would drop its .50 caliber brass casings as it fired. Surely some of those rained down on European cities. Did they cause casualties?”

    According to this thread, the answer is yes for falling shrapnel at least and furthermore, plenty, this can be a very major cause of casualties. I didn’t see anything about casings, though.

    http://www.ww2f.com/topic/36323-ground-casualties-from-air-battles/

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  134. @Formerly CARealist
    Dang, I thought the word "Ferengi" referred to something real. Imagine my laughter when I started learning about it.

    Or, more to the Sailer model, the Ferengi are the Arab rug merchants (though I’ve heard some call the Ferengi Space Jews) of the Star Trek universe. Everything is a commercial transaction, even mates.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Ferengi

    Read the part about Ferengi women; it brings new meaning to the term “barefoot and pregnant”!

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  135. Turns out casualties from falling shrapnel, casings, and such is a pretty lively topic:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=casualties+in+war+caused+by+falling+shrapnel

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  136. @Dave Pinsen
    Houellebecq had an interesting take on the contrast between Western and Muslim women's dress in Submission:
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/681678382808064000

    Tony Bourdain riffed on this when he was in Saudi Arabia. He went to a mall with his host, a Saudi woman, and commented on the sexy clothing and lingerie on display:

    (mall visit starts around 2:15)

    “While we await the senseless slaughter of the dinner camel, Bourdain and Danya take an intermission for a few other activities. They visit a Saudi mall, a favorite destination for locals to hang out and participate in some conspicuous consumption. I found it amusing that they sell a huge variety of westernized women’s clothing at the mall – women are required to be covered head to toe to maintain “modesty,” yet sexy lingerie and high heels are easily available. Seems like a bit of a contradiction, no?”

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  137. @Steve Sailer
    I recall an article out of Baghdad either right before or after the U.S. invasion in 2003 about the rise in popularity of shooting guns in the air to celebrate. A Baghdad doctor said it used to be just something that country bumpkins did, but it had spread to the capital. He'd recently attended the wedding of the daughter of the chief of surgery at his hospital in Baghdad and the chief of surgery fired a few rounds into the air to celebrate.

    Didn’t New Orleans regularly lose some of its vibrant citizens every New Year’s Eve due to the same type of celebrating?

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  138. @International Jew

    hundreds of young men broke into groups and formed rings around young women
     
    Where were German men in all this? Why don't we hear about North African and Middle Eastern men admitted to hospital with broken jaws, cracked skulls, ruptured spleens? Surely even in gun-shy Germany, it's ok to protect your women from assault?

    Surely even in gun-shy Germany, it’s ok to protect your women from assault?

    Try that when you’re surrounded by dozens of half-drunk, aggressive arseholes. Won’t do you (or your girlfriend) any good.

    It might have been different if it had not been at the train station (& in a crowd of 1000). If it had been say 20 arseholes doing this in front of a pub, people would have called up some friends & there would have been a mass brawl. Happens occasionally in Germany (just like in other countries).
    Even if you could call some friends, when they arrive what can they do. Will you be able to identify the bunch of people who attacked you in that huge crowd?

    I would not be surprised though, if this year we will see a similar crowd of German hooligans looking for trouble. Could be fun, next new year’s eve…

    @ Pseudonymic Handle

    What the mayoress did was to publish new guidelines for women on how to behave. She would never dare say something about the migrants.

    You’re easily fooled by the media? She was asked by a reporter specifically what women could do to keep safe. Off-hand she made that remark. There are no published guidelines like this.

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  139. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    a projectile hurled into the air at high velocity returns to the ground at the same velocity.
     
    No it bloody doesn't. Well not since an Italian and an Englishman invented Gravity it doesn't. FFS.

    Well done, my man!

    You’ve just invented the world’s first perpetual motion machine – and violated the law of thermodynamics in the process!
    What’s more, you’ve just solved the world’s energy problem at a stroke!

    Who taught you physics?
    Evel Knieval ? – as John Thaw might have said -(obscure reference only known to afficiandos of 1970s British TV Cockney crime dramas).

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    Oh all right then guv it's a fair cop.
    I knew all along that if you spunk a round off in the general direction of God, it just runs out of puff due to various fluids dragging it to a stop, and goes into a low orbit along with the battered relics all the ten-gallon hats, footballs, rabbits, cows, cigarette butts, beercans and fleas ever loosed upwards.

    If bullets were the size of housebricks, or cows, then I'd be worried. Any of them dropped from a mile 0r so might sting a bit, due to the influence of the ridiculously feeble force of gravity, and compounding. Their mass ensures that any buffering due to air resistance wouldn't help a lot.
    If on the other hand, there was no air, we'd still be fairly safe, as the ammo would just beetle off into space, having easily defeated gravity.
    You sla-aaaa-gggg!
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  140. @Karl
    Expletive Deleted >>> No it bloody doesn’t. Well not since an Italian and an Englishman invented Gravity it doesn’t. FFS.


    Will someone please introduce me to this guy. I've got a bridge I want to sell him.

    I think he’s the same bloke who ‘does his bollocks’ in claiming that Norway was a colonial power.
    If you respectfully disagree with him, he’ll call you a ‘cnut’.

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  141. @Whitney
    I spent 5 months in Europe for a study abroad program. While walking through city streets in Germany and the Netherlands, I was cat-called by Arabic and North African men, never the European men. A friend of mine was groped by a Turkish Muslim man in the streets of the Hague.

    Yes, I know it is disrespectful and against everything I've been taught and believe, but it's really hot.

    When men act like men are a little scary....I have to be honest...huge turn on.

    I know I should be horrified but I must admit we like it.

    Haha, that's probably why I've dated so many Muslim men .

    Do you think life is an erotic fantasy?

    These people aren’t playing a flirtatious game.

    They ARE violent psychopathic abusers and they are like that all the time.

    Stay away from them.

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  142. @anonguy

    Today’s western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.
     

    I abhor the behavior of the mob in Cologne of course, but I can hardly blame them for the impressions they've formed about western degeneracy. I'd bet that any Ozzies transported from 1950s or earlier western civ to the present day would come to conclusions closer to those of the refugees than those of a contemporary western male. They'd just differ only in what actions they might take based upon those conclusions and I'm not entirely convinced that a bunch of young, footloose partying 1950s western men might similarly conclude that they are in the midst of some Saturnalia, jungle rules apply, and decide to join the fun in some manner from which they would be inhibited in their original environment. And since they are new to all this, they might misjudge the situation a bit.

    Same thing sometimes happens with western guys visiting Boy's Towns along the Mexican border, current/former fleshpots like Thailand, Phillipines, etc., which can seem at first like anything goes, but even degenerated social milieus have some social boundaries that aren't at all obvious at first to people from more ordered societies.

    The only difference is that in Cologne they were running in a group of 1000+ as opposed to two or three bros getting out of hand in some unbelievable, to a typical middle class first world neophyte, red light district.

    Again, I'm not at all giving the mob a pass on behavior, but their initial conclusions aren't entirely irrational given the stark contrast between the way many women present these days in our society and theirs.

    Judging from the minimizing statements of the left-ish media/German authorities, it seems like this is one point where social conservatives and liberals may find some agreement

    blaming the victims is an attempt to deflect attention away from the threat

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    blaming the victims is an attempt to deflect attention away from the threat
     
    I guess you and people making similar comments have never been out for an authentically rolicking good time.

    The women act and look like whores to these guys, and probably to nearly every member of western civ until the past generation.

    There is a reason modest dress is encouraged/adopted in healthy societies. BTW, the converse does not follow, modest dress does not necessarily imply health societies, so please don't accuse me of saying this. I shouldn't have to write that out, but you doubtlessly have zero facility with predicate logic and if I didn't spell this out Barney-style, you would have further cluttered this thread with another vacuous thought. Actually, "thought" would give too much credit - maybe "echo some other person's vacuous thought" would be more accurate.

    You sound like one of those naifs who says, oh, lets put women on submarines and it is all the guys fault if one of them so much leers at a female. That school of thought contends that the men are supposed to obey orders, right?, and this is just a discipline problem, not a human nature. The difference between the male submariners and the refugees is only quantitative, not qualitative.

    I'm one of those who think maybe a machine gun emplacement at Ellis Island might have been a better idea than a welcome center, so I have no sympathy for the "refugees" in europe. But I'm not interested in being a protective male, defending some society so the women can go around acting and looking like whores.

    Problem is, you (or people from whom such mindlessly unoriginal and unthinking drivel oozes - hint: "blame the victim" was trite nlt than late 1970s - are so saturated with propaganda you've been co-opted yourself by the degeneracy and so forth that you probably believe you oppose.

    Despite all that, there is another thing I know. Regardless of my opinions on cultural decay, I would come to the aid of one of those victims well before you would no matter how long I paused because you never would. But I wouldn't be waiting for the move you are never going to make, I would be acting post-haste.

    Because I have in the past, been there, done that, given and taken some lumps and I am a very lucky man to be alive and typing now. I'm sure you will dismiss this as braggadocio, though.

    To the point - why I know this about you and your ilk. People who repeat such reflexive idiocies are cowards. Mentally, simply because they parrot the small ideas of others. And physically, because the body follows the mind.

    You'd know all this too if you had the slightest hint of a backbone. Try doing or thinking something original, daring, take a risk for once in your useless life rather than just being a shallow and transparent tool.
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  143. A good friend of mine who is from Slovakia recounted a hilarious tale in the summer. He said that a bus that had picked up migrants coming from the Middle East (presumably) stopped in Slovakia – the migrants thought they had stopped in Austria. So one of them asked where they had stopped. Someone said Slovakia. When they heard this, they were in utter despair – almost panicked beyond their wits. Their greatest fear was that the EU mandarins handling this would leave them in Slovakia where the local thugs would treat them like scum. There was even an online video circulating on this a while back. And my friend laughed his guts out. He said that although he is Slovak himself, if he went into the nearby village where he is not known and casually went into the local bar for a drink, the local toughs would start checking him out and this could end potentially in a fight.

    Now let’s think about this for a second. Can you ever tell the difference (racially) between a Slovak and an Austrian? They share a border and were once part of the same empire and were for most of their history Catholic. Slovakia had the “misfortune” of falling into the Soviet “sphere of influence”, Austria became a part of the “Free West.” And there you have it. The likelihood that some local thugs in Austria would take matters into their own hands and deal with the problem “pronto” is close to zero. In Slovakia, the chances of this happening are quite high. It is not without good reason that not one of these migrants wants to have anything to do with Eastern Europe. They couldn’t care less if all of them ended up in Germany.

    Now let’s engage in a thought experiment: imagine of some such “gang” had attempted this in a city in Russia? Actually Russia does have a large Muslim population. But they know their place. The Western European female ruled societies have created the problem from scratch and now don’t know how to deal with it (do women know what brutality and use of force really means – actually do most Western men even know how to use brutality when the need presents itself)?

    In Syria, the Islamic “militias” reacted with extreme alarm when the Russians entered the war zone in late September. They knew that unlike the whining, snivelling, feminized West that has long forgotten how to fight, the Russians don’t take prisoners and don’t worry about massacring the enemy when the need arises. A Saudi cleric issued a warning that the Russians constituted the most mortal threat that had yet presented itself. In the areas where the Russians have been bombing remorselessly, that view has been proven correct.

    A society ruled by old women is ripe for conquest and slavery. Frau Merkel is a symptom of a deeper problem.

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    And that's why the Spanish Armada had such an easy time conquering England in 1588.
    , @AP

    Actually Russia does have a large Muslim population. But they know their place.
     
    You do realize that in Russia Chechens and other Muslims catcall Russian women and get away with it. Putin has a special arrangement with Chechen leader Kadyrov: keep his people from disturbing the stability of the State and they'll have first class status.

    Before the Russian people were successfully distracted there was even movement towards a backlash:

    http://rbth.com/society/2013/07/11/pugachev_murder_triggers_popular_unrest_over_governments_ethnic_polic_27981.html
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  144. To buttress my previous comment, here is a link which proves that a picture says more than a thousand words: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-29/spot-defense-minister?page=4

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  146. @iSteveFan

    I have never believed these bs stories about people being killed by bullets coming down from celebratory gunfire that is fired straight up in the air. There is just too low probability of that bullet hitting hard enough and in just the right place to kill. Its an urban myth.
     
    What about anti-aircraft rounds that come back down? Are there significant casualties caused by all that falling debris? I always remember the opening rounds of Desert Storm in 1991 with all those tracer rounds lighting up the sky over Baghdad. I always wondered what happened when they came back down.

    Also I wondered what happened with the expended shell casings coming out of fighters. A WW2 Mustang would drop its .50 caliber brass casings as it fired. Surely some of those rained down on European cities. Did they cause casualties?

    My grandparents had some WW2 shrapnel (from AA artillery defending their city) in the kitchen drawer. Heavy, jagged stuff – maybe three ounces a piece and with sharp edges – I think falling from any height greater than 10 or 15 feet, it would be fatal to an unprotected head.

    On the topic of Cologne and sexual assault, the Slutwalk community has been very quiet lately.

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  147. @Big Bill
    What with all the Muslim gropers filling up Europe, I look forward to more conservative female dress and the return of bathing machines.

    Thanks. I read the link about bathing machines. All new to me.

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  148. @Pseudonymic Handle
    What the mayoress did was to publish new guidelines for women on how to behave. She would never dare say something about the migrants.

    “The suggested code of conduct includes maintaining an arm’s length distance from strangers, to stick within your own group…”

    And that’s actually amazingly good advice for a nation as well.

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    “The suggested code of conduct includes maintaining an arm’s length distance from strangers, to stick within your own group…”

     

    Yet sticking with your own group is exactly what the progressives preach against. That's why they import diversity and use government policy to integrate neighborhoods, schools and other institutions. Now they are telling people to stick with their own groups. It most certainly was easier to stick with your own group a few months ago before Merkel decided to import one million strangers.

    And it was easier to stick with your own group a few decades ago before her predecessors in Europe and the US decided to throw open the borders. The fact that these people admit this now only adds to my disgust. For they well knew that their multicult policy was bad, but continued to push it anyway, demonizing and socially destroying anyone who got in their way. The best punishment for these people would be to excommunicate them from our nations and force them to live and practice their ideology in the third world itself.
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  149. @anonguy

    Today’s western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.
     

    I abhor the behavior of the mob in Cologne of course, but I can hardly blame them for the impressions they've formed about western degeneracy. I'd bet that any Ozzies transported from 1950s or earlier western civ to the present day would come to conclusions closer to those of the refugees than those of a contemporary western male. They'd just differ only in what actions they might take based upon those conclusions and I'm not entirely convinced that a bunch of young, footloose partying 1950s western men might similarly conclude that they are in the midst of some Saturnalia, jungle rules apply, and decide to join the fun in some manner from which they would be inhibited in their original environment. And since they are new to all this, they might misjudge the situation a bit.

    Same thing sometimes happens with western guys visiting Boy's Towns along the Mexican border, current/former fleshpots like Thailand, Phillipines, etc., which can seem at first like anything goes, but even degenerated social milieus have some social boundaries that aren't at all obvious at first to people from more ordered societies.

    The only difference is that in Cologne they were running in a group of 1000+ as opposed to two or three bros getting out of hand in some unbelievable, to a typical middle class first world neophyte, red light district.

    Again, I'm not at all giving the mob a pass on behavior, but their initial conclusions aren't entirely irrational given the stark contrast between the way many women present these days in our society and theirs.

    Judging from the minimizing statements of the left-ish media/German authorities, it seems like this is one point where social conservatives and liberals may find some agreement

    They’d just differ only in what actions they might take based upon those conclusions and I’m not entirely convinced that a bunch of young, footloose partying 1950s western men might similarly conclude that they are in the midst of some Saturnalia, jungle rules apply, and decide to join the fun in some manner from which they would be inhibited in their original environment.

    Well, I’m entirely convinced. Such men would be able to see that other men are not acting as if they were in the midst of a Saturnalia.

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  150. Oh come on, you make this sound like a big deal or something. The German women can avoid this type of experience going forward by simply wearing a burka (or at least a hijab) and only going out in public in the company of their husband or a close male relative.

    Problem solved. Submit! …or something.

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  151. The mayor of Cologne has issued “guidelines” to women to avoid this kind of thing:

    “The suggested code of conduct includes maintaining an arm’s length distance from strangers…”

    These people measure the safe distance in centimetres, we measure it in thousands of kilometres.

    BTW, re shooting in the air, haven’t these people heard of blank rounds or, failing that, removing the bullets from the cartridges before loading? Maybe the reduced recoil energy would stop the gun from reloading, but there are devices you can fit to it for the purpose of firing blanks.

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  152. @TheJester
    Lessons learned from two decades as a Westerner living and working among Muslims in the Middle East:

    1. Muslim men grow up believing that women have uncontrollable sexual desires. They look for any and every opportunity to mate. Exposing their bare arms, legs, and feminine curves or making eye contact are seen as signaling ... sexual invitations. If there is a sexual misadventure, it is the female's fault for sexually taunting the male ... kind of like a woman playing out a rape fantasy.

    2. This is why women need to be protected from themselves in harems and cover their bodies in public for their own well-being ... it's part of the way that the superior Islamic culture cares for their own.

    3. We know that Western culture needs to accommodate our new "guests" by forcing Western women into chador and isolating them in harems. If we don't, we know whose fault it is and who must bear the responsibility for the consequences. This is because the Muslims won't change (their religion forbids it). So ... WE have to change.

    Imagine! Western men actually allow their women to run around half-naked and behave like sluts in public. How irresponsible can they be! Just look at the legions of "out of control" Western women taunting men as they promenade in public places.

    1. Muslim men grow up believing that women have uncontrollable sexual desires. They look for any and every opportunity to mate. Exposing their bare arms, legs, and feminine curves or making eye contact are seen as signaling … sexual invitations. If there is a sexual misadventure, it is the female’s fault for sexually taunting the male … kind of like a woman playing out a rape fantasy.

    Maybe this is somewhat true for Arab women. After all, peoples are different. Maybe female circumcision was an innovation to prevent love marriages, prevent daughters from being honor killed etc.

    Also remember that there is still incentive for a woman to want to have alpha seed rather than receive it from her beta husband. If they are trapped under a rug their whole life it’s carpe diem baby!

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  153. @Charles Martel
    A good friend of mine who is from Slovakia recounted a hilarious tale in the summer. He said that a bus that had picked up migrants coming from the Middle East (presumably) stopped in Slovakia - the migrants thought they had stopped in Austria. So one of them asked where they had stopped. Someone said Slovakia. When they heard this, they were in utter despair - almost panicked beyond their wits. Their greatest fear was that the EU mandarins handling this would leave them in Slovakia where the local thugs would treat them like scum. There was even an online video circulating on this a while back. And my friend laughed his guts out. He said that although he is Slovak himself, if he went into the nearby village where he is not known and casually went into the local bar for a drink, the local toughs would start checking him out and this could end potentially in a fight.

    Now let's think about this for a second. Can you ever tell the difference (racially) between a Slovak and an Austrian? They share a border and were once part of the same empire and were for most of their history Catholic. Slovakia had the "misfortune" of falling into the Soviet "sphere of influence", Austria became a part of the "Free West." And there you have it. The likelihood that some local thugs in Austria would take matters into their own hands and deal with the problem "pronto" is close to zero. In Slovakia, the chances of this happening are quite high. It is not without good reason that not one of these migrants wants to have anything to do with Eastern Europe. They couldn't care less if all of them ended up in Germany.

    Now let's engage in a thought experiment: imagine of some such "gang" had attempted this in a city in Russia? Actually Russia does have a large Muslim population. But they know their place. The Western European female ruled societies have created the problem from scratch and now don't know how to deal with it (do women know what brutality and use of force really means - actually do most Western men even know how to use brutality when the need presents itself)?

    In Syria, the Islamic "militias" reacted with extreme alarm when the Russians entered the war zone in late September. They knew that unlike the whining, snivelling, feminized West that has long forgotten how to fight, the Russians don't take prisoners and don't worry about massacring the enemy when the need arises. A Saudi cleric issued a warning that the Russians constituted the most mortal threat that had yet presented itself. In the areas where the Russians have been bombing remorselessly, that view has been proven correct.

    A society ruled by old women is ripe for conquest and slavery. Frau Merkel is a symptom of a deeper problem.

    And that’s why the Spanish Armada had such an easy time conquering England in 1588.

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    In 1588, the English had a female monarch but the similarity ends there. Men (and those weren't softened bourgeoise men but hardened men fighting for king and country) ran everything (including the Navy. Had that not been the case we might have ended up with something like this: http://www.strategypage.com/humor/articles/military_jokes_200782222.asp). Look at that photo of the Defence Ministers in Europe. I would recommend that you read Michael Scheuer's books and especially his comments on the "rules of engagement" for the US army in battle. The involvement of women in everything (including in all combat) has now practically made it impossible for the US military to carry out war as Americans used to (the American military of WW2 would find this stuff incomprehensible - a George Patton or a Curtis LeMay would never make a General today).

    In Germany today, it isn't just Merkel at the top, women have overrun bureaucracies all over the place and are to be found in every nook and cranny of government. Someone commented earlier on how women running "social services" and various government bureaucracies in Rotherham ignored the worst forms of child abuse by Pakistani men for several years.
    , @Anonymous
    Steve, surely you must know that it was extreme bad weather - and a judicious little trick involving 'fire ships' at Calais - which defeated the Armada.
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  154. @Clyde
    I have never believed these bs stories about people being killed by bullets coming down from celebratory gunfire that is fired straight up in the air. There is just too low probability of that bullet hitting hard enough and in just the right place to kill. Its an urban myth.

    What does happen is that some drunken a-hole fires at a lower angle and nails someone. These incidents then get conflated with the straight up in the air celebratory gunfire. All of which has been going on in Yeb! land Miami for years.

    They’re not bs stories. If you’re ever experienced the practice up close, you’d understand by the sheer round of shots going off by multiple people, often in close quarters, bullets will eventually hit any improbable area, physics of gunfire be damned. If you visit a culture that practices festive gunfire, you won’t have trouble meeting someone with a family member or friend who got killed during festive gunfire, seemingly out of nowhere, from an improbable angle (or someone who was killed in revenge). The cultural practice often coincides with cultures that practice vendetta killings, so naturally there are family sagas of long feuds, and (usually) males, even young boys, being killed in the aftermath of an accidental death from festive gunfire. I’ve been in the midst of “balofies” in Crete, and it was utterly terrifying, even purely from a visceral standpoint.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-35205145

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    On New Year's Eve, LAPD cops traditionally pulled their police cruisers under freeway overpasses just before midnight and don't come out until the shooting stopped. But about 10 years ago, they got proactive, in combination with a public service advertising campaign against midnight firing into the air, killed a few drunken shooters, and that seems to have put a dent into this tradition in L.A.
    , @Yngvar
    The cultural practice of firing a fully automatic AK-47 up in the air isn't that ancient. Wasn't seen anywhere before 1947 as it happens.

    Firing a vertically inclined gun during celebrations have its roots in the pre-gunpowder tradition of "pumping" a sword or knife in the air, a transmuted and societally accepted way of "displaying ones manhood".

    The spent casings on the ground also represent a real problem. They act like roller bearings and it's easy to trip on them and get hurt. So watch your step and don't fire unless you're standing still!
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  155. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anonguy

    Today’s western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.
     

    I abhor the behavior of the mob in Cologne of course, but I can hardly blame them for the impressions they've formed about western degeneracy. I'd bet that any Ozzies transported from 1950s or earlier western civ to the present day would come to conclusions closer to those of the refugees than those of a contemporary western male. They'd just differ only in what actions they might take based upon those conclusions and I'm not entirely convinced that a bunch of young, footloose partying 1950s western men might similarly conclude that they are in the midst of some Saturnalia, jungle rules apply, and decide to join the fun in some manner from which they would be inhibited in their original environment. And since they are new to all this, they might misjudge the situation a bit.

    Same thing sometimes happens with western guys visiting Boy's Towns along the Mexican border, current/former fleshpots like Thailand, Phillipines, etc., which can seem at first like anything goes, but even degenerated social milieus have some social boundaries that aren't at all obvious at first to people from more ordered societies.

    The only difference is that in Cologne they were running in a group of 1000+ as opposed to two or three bros getting out of hand in some unbelievable, to a typical middle class first world neophyte, red light district.

    Again, I'm not at all giving the mob a pass on behavior, but their initial conclusions aren't entirely irrational given the stark contrast between the way many women present these days in our society and theirs.

    Judging from the minimizing statements of the left-ish media/German authorities, it seems like this is one point where social conservatives and liberals may find some agreement

    What happened in Haight-Asbury that supposedly epitomized love and peace in the 60s?
    So many young girls were taken advantage by louts and thugs and hornballs.

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1968/12/28/page/28/article/10-hippies-held-in-girls-rape-and-slaying

    https://amietheauthor.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/the-haight-was-full-of-hate-the-true-story-of-the-summer-of-love/

    I don’t see this as a Muslim problem. And I don’t think the main reason is because all these young men got their ideas from the Koran.

    When you create conditions were lots of rough young men are allowed to invade a territory and given freedom to rampage around, this will happen, especially if the word is out that western women are ‘begging for it’ — according to pop culture — and western men are too afraid to stand up for their women.

    What did Soviet troops do in WWII? They didn’t just rape German women but just about any women they could get their hands on.
    But there was a good deal of rapes and rampaging by US soldiers too. They were not Muslim. And what happened in Nanking? Buddhist Japanese did that stuff.

    Germany and etc are not in a state of war, but they created war-like conditions, especially since these ‘refugees’ are escaping from war zones. For yrs, they’ve lived in desperation, chaos, and anarchy. They are hungry, horny, shellshocked. They’ve been animalized by constant warfare and destruction. And degraded by internet culture of whore-ism and western trashism that makes them both long for the west in animal delight and despise it for its moral degradation.

    They feel both anger and gratitude to be in the West. They see the West as having created this havoc in the Middle East but they are also happy to be inside rich nations. And their expectations are high. They want free stuff, they want women.

    Besides, these guys would NOT be in Europe if Western nations hadn’t surrendered to the GLOB. The power of GLOB, through media-academia-government say that ‘European values’ must call for deracination. Having surrendered to the GLOB, western nations opened their borders to the Muslim hordes and African hordes since the GLOB orders such.

    In ancient Babylon, adults sacrificed young children to some terrible god.
    Today, white folks sacrifice their children to toxic mammon of Pop Culture(that turns youngsters into whores or pimps) and Political Correctness(that lobotomized whites of their racial-survival instinct).

    The Muslim punks are taking advantage of the situation. But they didn’t create it.
    If you cut yourself open and expose it, germs and flies will soon do their thing.

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    What did Soviet troops do in WWII? They didn’t just rape German women but just about any women they could get their hands on.
    But there was a good deal of rapes and rampaging by US soldiers too. They were not Muslim. And what happened in Nanking? Buddhist Japanese did that stuff.
     
    It is probably apt that you use war analogies given that many on this blog see these migrants as akin to an invading army.
    , @random observer
    Haight-Ashbury is a good example, as would be any number of music festivals and similar events in certain times and places- young men can get out of control in the right conditions.

    It is also quite true that soldiers from every culture get out of hand with local women, including enemy women. Although there are some cultural variations there. It gets worse when there is a specific ethnic enmity, some revenge for an earlier stage of the war when things were going the other way, or when one side is trained early on to assume it is a master race and other human cattle exist to serve it. That last would be a blunt way of characterizing Imperial Japan's general attitude to Korean and Chinese comfort women. Nor is it impossible to derive such attitudes from any religion, including Buddhism. Spin is all.

    [Sidebar- I don't see many people saying it is specifically the Koran or Islamic religious teachings that produce these problems, more like the interaction of traditional conservative norms in many latterly Muslim societies, importation and assimilation of often even more conservative Arab norms along with Islam too.]

    But no, this is not equivalent of soldiers in war. That analogy is false. Germany and these people are not at war, nor are the latter a conquering army who had to fight their way through the Wehrmacht at great expense, as a consequence their suffering is nothing compared with that of the Soviet infantryman circa 1945 [the latter walked farther, in worse conditions, fighting all the way], nor did Germany in any way cause their suffering such as it was, so they are not acting out revenge for their homes and families destroyed by Germans. If they think that is what they are doing in Germany, they should be disabused by corporal means and then expelled.

    The proper analogy would be to the millions of refugees floating around Europe in 1945-6. A whole continent vast stretches of which were in worse shape than Syria is right now, with many more people displaced, and having seen and suffered things AT LEAST as bad as anyone coming out of Syria right now. Some of them did bad stuff, I am sure, including rape and murder. Then again, some of them were either doing it at least to their own compatriots in their own country, or doing it to the people next door against whom they might claim legitimate grievances, including the Germans themselves. But how often did refugees turn up en masse in a peaceful, undamaged city in some country that had welcomed them and offered refuge, only to start raping local girls? How many tried to migrate to another continent altogether and ended up raping citizens of friendly receiving countries there? [trick question of course- Europeans circa 1945-6 had a couple of next-door regions they could have migrated to, but even under European rule these places could not be made as good as Europe could be remade in a few short years; the only optional and good continents could not be reached without papers and ships].

    The Middle East now is of course not like Europe 1945-6 at all. The damage is as yet far too localized and the fatalities and tragedies comparatively few in number. If the Sunni-Shia war gets really out of hand and actually sees Syria-level fighting in 3-4 more countries for a few more years [actually it would need to be worse than Syria-level fighting, or Iraq-level], then it might be equivalent to what Europeans had faced. And yet already the region is exporting fit young men to go rape German and Scandinavian girls.
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  156. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson
    "Not true.

    Plenty of women in the Muslim world dress modern."

    BULLSHIT ANON. If that were true, why are Infidel women who travel to Arab Muslim countries always forced to wear a niqab or a hijab.

    Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice for example were always wearing Islamic approved clothing for women whenever they traveled to Islamic countries.

    "Today’s western women really are whores."

    Yeah women in Miami Beach, Cancun, Rio De Janeiro, Havana, Malibu, Honolulu, Costa Rica, Santa Monica, Acapulco, etc should all dress like women in Syria, Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Pakistan,etc because if they don't than they are whores right Anon.

    It doesn't matter if it is 100F degrees outside, women still should not show any skin in public right Anon.

    If just the mere sight of exposed female skin automatically causes Arab Muslim men the urge to go out and rape the first Infidel woman they see, than Arab Muslim men have worse impulse control than African American men and Hispanic men. A lack of impulse control is associated with a lower IQ.

    Not all Muslim nations are the same.

    In a place like Saudi Arabia, you have to cover up.

    But plenty of women in Turkey dress modern. Also true of parts of Lebanon. And there were lots of modern-dressed women in Syria before ISIS went nuts.
    And look at Kurish women. Many of them show their hair and dress modern.

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    Is fashion really the best indicator for civilization or desirability of immigrants from the countries in question? Attitudes towards women are just the tip of the iceberg. People all over the world have adopted Western fashions, male and female, often seeing it explicitly as a stepping stone to modernization. China did it, Japan did it, the Egyptians, the Turks... While you might think of it as a good proxy, there is plenty of room on the spectrum between full covering and nudity and I would not begrudge a Western woman's desire to dress more "modestly" or in a less revealing manner.
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  157. @festivegunfire
    They're not bs stories. If you're ever experienced the practice up close, you'd understand by the sheer round of shots going off by multiple people, often in close quarters, bullets will eventually hit any improbable area, physics of gunfire be damned. If you visit a culture that practices festive gunfire, you won't have trouble meeting someone with a family member or friend who got killed during festive gunfire, seemingly out of nowhere, from an improbable angle (or someone who was killed in revenge). The cultural practice often coincides with cultures that practice vendetta killings, so naturally there are family sagas of long feuds, and (usually) males, even young boys, being killed in the aftermath of an accidental death from festive gunfire. I've been in the midst of "balofies" in Crete, and it was utterly terrifying, even purely from a visceral standpoint.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-35205145

    On New Year’s Eve, LAPD cops traditionally pulled their police cruisers under freeway overpasses just before midnight and don’t come out until the shooting stopped. But about 10 years ago, they got proactive, in combination with a public service advertising campaign against midnight firing into the air, killed a few drunken shooters, and that seems to have put a dent into this tradition in L.A.

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  158. @The most deplorable one
    Could you tell us a bit more about how Gravity prevents the bullet from coming down with the same speed it exited the barrel?

    In my wild, pre-scientific imagination I mistakenly thought that it was air resistance that reduced its speed on the way up and down (with gravity simply converting kinetic energy on the way up to potential energy and then the other way on the way down), but I am willing to believe that it's due to quantum gravity fluctuations or something.

    It will reach its high point faster than it will return. Look up “terminal velocity” which in this case will be much lower than muzzle velocity.

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  159. @Anonymous
    Well done, my man!

    You've just invented the world's first perpetual motion machine - and violated the law of thermodynamics in the process!
    What's more, you've just solved the world's energy problem at a stroke!

    Who taught you physics?
    Evel Knieval ? - as John Thaw might have said -(obscure reference only known to afficiandos of 1970s British TV Cockney crime dramas).

    Oh all right then guv it’s a fair cop.
    I knew all along that if you spunk a round off in the general direction of God, it just runs out of puff due to various fluids dragging it to a stop, and goes into a low orbit along with the battered relics all the ten-gallon hats, footballs, rabbits, cows, cigarette butts, beercans and fleas ever loosed upwards.

    If bullets were the size of housebricks, or cows, then I’d be worried. Any of them dropped from a mile 0r so might sting a bit, due to the influence of the ridiculously feeble force of gravity, and compounding. Their mass ensures that any buffering due to air resistance wouldn’t help a lot.
    If on the other hand, there was no air, we’d still be fairly safe, as the ammo would just beetle off into space, having easily defeated gravity.
    You sla-aaaa-gggg!

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    "Oh all right then guv it’s a fair cop.
    I knew all along that if you spunk a round off in the general direction of God, it just runs out of puff due to various fluids dragging it to a stop, and goes into a low orbit along with the battered relics all the ten-gallon hats, footballs, rabbits, cows, cigarette butts, beercans and fleas ever loosed upwards.

    If bullets were the size of housebricks, or cows, then I’d be worried. Any of them dropped from a mile 0r so might sting a bit, due to the influence of the ridiculously feeble force of gravity, and compounding. Their mass ensures that any buffering due to air resistance wouldn’t help a lot.
    If on the other hand, there was no air, we’d still be fairly safe, as the ammo would just beetle off into space, having easily defeated gravity.
    You sla-aaaa-gggg!"

    Good thing for you that spouting physics without a clue isn't against the law. I thought your first comment was bad, but you'd get life if not the chair for this one.
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  160. @Anon
    Not all Muslim nations are the same.

    In a place like Saudi Arabia, you have to cover up.

    But plenty of women in Turkey dress modern. Also true of parts of Lebanon. And there were lots of modern-dressed women in Syria before ISIS went nuts.
    And look at Kurish women. Many of them show their hair and dress modern.

    Is fashion really the best indicator for civilization or desirability of immigrants from the countries in question? Attitudes towards women are just the tip of the iceberg. People all over the world have adopted Western fashions, male and female, often seeing it explicitly as a stepping stone to modernization. China did it, Japan did it, the Egyptians, the Turks… While you might think of it as a good proxy, there is plenty of room on the spectrum between full covering and nudity and I would not begrudge a Western woman’s desire to dress more “modestly” or in a less revealing manner.

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  161. Good eyewitness account from Cologne

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  162. @Anon
    What happened in Haight-Asbury that supposedly epitomized love and peace in the 60s?
    So many young girls were taken advantage by louts and thugs and hornballs.

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1968/12/28/page/28/article/10-hippies-held-in-girls-rape-and-slaying

    https://amietheauthor.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/the-haight-was-full-of-hate-the-true-story-of-the-summer-of-love/

    I don't see this as a Muslim problem. And I don't think the main reason is because all these young men got their ideas from the Koran.

    When you create conditions were lots of rough young men are allowed to invade a territory and given freedom to rampage around, this will happen, especially if the word is out that western women are 'begging for it' --- according to pop culture --- and western men are too afraid to stand up for their women.

    What did Soviet troops do in WWII? They didn't just rape German women but just about any women they could get their hands on.
    But there was a good deal of rapes and rampaging by US soldiers too. They were not Muslim. And what happened in Nanking? Buddhist Japanese did that stuff.

    Germany and etc are not in a state of war, but they created war-like conditions, especially since these 'refugees' are escaping from war zones. For yrs, they've lived in desperation, chaos, and anarchy. They are hungry, horny, shellshocked. They've been animalized by constant warfare and destruction. And degraded by internet culture of whore-ism and western trashism that makes them both long for the west in animal delight and despise it for its moral degradation.

    They feel both anger and gratitude to be in the West. They see the West as having created this havoc in the Middle East but they are also happy to be inside rich nations. And their expectations are high. They want free stuff, they want women.

    Besides, these guys would NOT be in Europe if Western nations hadn't surrendered to the GLOB. The power of GLOB, through media-academia-government say that 'European values' must call for deracination. Having surrendered to the GLOB, western nations opened their borders to the Muslim hordes and African hordes since the GLOB orders such.

    In ancient Babylon, adults sacrificed young children to some terrible god.
    Today, white folks sacrifice their children to toxic mammon of Pop Culture(that turns youngsters into whores or pimps) and Political Correctness(that lobotomized whites of their racial-survival instinct).

    The Muslim punks are taking advantage of the situation. But they didn't create it.
    If you cut yourself open and expose it, germs and flies will soon do their thing.

    What did Soviet troops do in WWII? They didn’t just rape German women but just about any women they could get their hands on.
    But there was a good deal of rapes and rampaging by US soldiers too. They were not Muslim. And what happened in Nanking? Buddhist Japanese did that stuff.

    It is probably apt that you use war analogies given that many on this blog see these migrants as akin to an invading army.

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    "It is probably apt that you use war analogies given that many on this blog see these migrants as akin to an invading army."

    They are.
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  163. From the article:

    stoked the debate over how to integrate such large numbers of migrants and focused new attention on how to deal with the influx of young, mostly Muslim men from more socially conservative cultures

    Well, at least the NYT has finally admitted that most of the “influx” has been young men. Baby steps.

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  164. @ben tillman

    “The suggested code of conduct includes maintaining an arm’s length distance from strangers, to stick within your own group…"
     
    And that's actually amazingly good advice for a nation as well.

    “The suggested code of conduct includes maintaining an arm’s length distance from strangers, to stick within your own group…”

    Yet sticking with your own group is exactly what the progressives preach against. That’s why they import diversity and use government policy to integrate neighborhoods, schools and other institutions. Now they are telling people to stick with their own groups. It most certainly was easier to stick with your own group a few months ago before Merkel decided to import one million strangers.

    And it was easier to stick with your own group a few decades ago before her predecessors in Europe and the US decided to throw open the borders. The fact that these people admit this now only adds to my disgust. For they well knew that their multicult policy was bad, but continued to push it anyway, demonizing and socially destroying anyone who got in their way. The best punishment for these people would be to excommunicate them from our nations and force them to live and practice their ideology in the third world itself.

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  165. Here is a guy that is apparently a bouncer in the area describing what he saw:

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  166. @Whitney
    I spent 5 months in Europe for a study abroad program. While walking through city streets in Germany and the Netherlands, I was cat-called by Arabic and North African men, never the European men. A friend of mine was groped by a Turkish Muslim man in the streets of the Hague.

    Yes, I know it is disrespectful and against everything I've been taught and believe, but it's really hot.

    When men act like men are a little scary....I have to be honest...huge turn on.

    I know I should be horrified but I must admit we like it.

    Haha, that's probably why I've dated so many Muslim men .

    “When men act like men are a little scary….I have to be honest…huge turn on.

    I know I should be horrified but I must admit we like it.”

    What “we?” The community of death wish-bimbo-idiots?

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  167. @Clyde
    Houellebecq wrote a novel. Is this going on today? That their burqa clad women get really sexy at night along with some Victoria's Secret lingerie? There are many Muslim female cover options ranging on downward from the burqa. I see them with their scarves on where I live. No burqas. At a beach I once saw a Muslim family show up with three children. The wife looked decent (no fatty) and was fairly well covered up. She went into the ocean this way. I did not see the drying off process if there was one.

    Houellebecq wrote a novel. Is this going on today? That their burqa clad women get really sexy at night along with some Victoria’s Secret lingerie?

    Yes, it’s true. While in London I saw a group of niqab-wearing women going into a lingerie shop. They wear whatever they like when they are at home. The niqab or burka are for public wear only.

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    When I was in Dubai I saw women in burkhas walking around in high heel shoes. The shoes stick out a bit from their gowns.
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  168. It is culturally accepted in parts of the Balkans, the Middle East, the Central Asian region of Afghanistan, the South Asian regions of Pakistan and Northern India as well as Latin American regions.

    Not to be picky but celebratory gunfire is not at all a custom in Northern India. Gun ownership rates are very low and gun owners are viewed as thugs. A celebratory gunfire would be widely seen as a hostile act and the participants would most likely be arrested.

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  169. @James N. Kennett

    Houellebecq wrote a novel. Is this going on today? That their burqa clad women get really sexy at night along with some Victoria’s Secret lingerie?
     
    Yes, it's true. While in London I saw a group of niqab-wearing women going into a lingerie shop. They wear whatever they like when they are at home. The niqab or burka are for public wear only.

    When I was in Dubai I saw women in burkhas walking around in high heel shoes. The shoes stick out a bit from their gowns.

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  170. Refugees. The faux de Cologne.

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  171. @Steve Sailer
    And that's why the Spanish Armada had such an easy time conquering England in 1588.

    In 1588, the English had a female monarch but the similarity ends there. Men (and those weren’t softened bourgeoise men but hardened men fighting for king and country) ran everything (including the Navy. Had that not been the case we might have ended up with something like this: http://www.strategypage.com/humor/articles/military_jokes_200782222.asp). Look at that photo of the Defence Ministers in Europe. I would recommend that you read Michael Scheuer’s books and especially his comments on the “rules of engagement” for the US army in battle. The involvement of women in everything (including in all combat) has now practically made it impossible for the US military to carry out war as Americans used to (the American military of WW2 would find this stuff incomprehensible – a George Patton or a Curtis LeMay would never make a General today).

    In Germany today, it isn’t just Merkel at the top, women have overrun bureaucracies all over the place and are to be found in every nook and cranny of government. Someone commented earlier on how women running “social services” and various government bureaucracies in Rotherham ignored the worst forms of child abuse by Pakistani men for several years.

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  172. @TheJester
    Lessons learned from two decades as a Westerner living and working among Muslims in the Middle East:

    1. Muslim men grow up believing that women have uncontrollable sexual desires. They look for any and every opportunity to mate. Exposing their bare arms, legs, and feminine curves or making eye contact are seen as signaling ... sexual invitations. If there is a sexual misadventure, it is the female's fault for sexually taunting the male ... kind of like a woman playing out a rape fantasy.

    2. This is why women need to be protected from themselves in harems and cover their bodies in public for their own well-being ... it's part of the way that the superior Islamic culture cares for their own.

    3. We know that Western culture needs to accommodate our new "guests" by forcing Western women into chador and isolating them in harems. If we don't, we know whose fault it is and who must bear the responsibility for the consequences. This is because the Muslims won't change (their religion forbids it). So ... WE have to change.

    Imagine! Western men actually allow their women to run around half-naked and behave like sluts in public. How irresponsible can they be! Just look at the legions of "out of control" Western women taunting men as they promenade in public places.

    Muslim men grow up believing that women have uncontrollable sexual desires.

    Projection.

    It’s Mohammedan men who can’t process the thrill they get from a flash of female skin escaping a burning building. Most of the world’s men would rise chivalrously to the occasion and feel heroic saving the girls’ lives. Not Arabs, the childrace. They know their own kind, too.

    “Arabs are the joke of the world.” –Col. Gaddafi

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  173. @Whiskey
    Muslim men are NOT the ferengi in Cologne. Western White men are. You wonder why Cologne is filled with Muslims? Its because White women WANT them there. Most White women, well they hate hate hate White men for being too beta and unsexy. That's all there is to it.

    Anyone familiar with women, knows they excuse and justify anything Alpha males do, and punish beta males randomly for merely existing. Paradise for women would be all men either gay or Alpha, and nothing in between. So of course an aging post menopausal leader let them all in, and women in Germany punish German men who actually do anything about Muslims raping other German women, and excuse and justify and hush up like Hillary with Bill or Cosby's wife any horrible behavior by Muslim men.

    If German men banded together to do something about Muslim men, they'd be thrown in jail. For decades. Not a single Muslim man will receive any serious punishment.

    Look at Lara Logan -- has she spoken out about the horrid nature of Muslim men? Of Muslim society? Of course not, she was there in the first place at Tahrir Square because she believed all that PC hype, and even after direct experience with raw, unfiltered Muslim-ness, she still keeps silent.

    Lets not White Knight for German women -- they wanted this and got it, good and hard. You don't see German women demanding Muslims be expelled so they can walk about the streets safe do you? No of course not. Bottom line most Western women would prefer to be #4 in the wife rotation or even just a concubine of some illiterate goat herder cum Jihadi than spend five minutes in an elevator with awkward White male nerd asking her for coffee.

    This screws over White men in Europe good and hard too, but for most White women that's a plus. There won't be any fight, any resistance, any expulsion. Its a feminized, consumerist society.

    Hungary does not lack for Jews, but it does come far more recent to mass female led consumerism, which explains why it and not Feminist Sweden decided to keep foreign male predators out.

    German men are the ferengi, not Muslim ones. Muslims run the place already.

    Lara Logan certainly has spoken out.

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  174. “Ferengi” sounds an awful lot like the Arabic for the Franks:

    Frank {noun} [hist.]
    إفْرِنْجيّ [ʼifrinjiyy] {noun}

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  175. Open warning to the German people:

    This is just the beginning. It will get a hundred times worse. Your government has made you vulnerable.

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  176. @iSteveFan

    What did Soviet troops do in WWII? They didn’t just rape German women but just about any women they could get their hands on.
    But there was a good deal of rapes and rampaging by US soldiers too. They were not Muslim. And what happened in Nanking? Buddhist Japanese did that stuff.
     
    It is probably apt that you use war analogies given that many on this blog see these migrants as akin to an invading army.

    “It is probably apt that you use war analogies given that many on this blog see these migrants as akin to an invading army.”

    They are.

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  177. @Steve Sailer
    And that's why the Spanish Armada had such an easy time conquering England in 1588.

    Steve, surely you must know that it was extreme bad weather – and a judicious little trick involving ‘fire ships’ at Calais – which defeated the Armada.

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  178. @Reg Cæsar

    Muslim men grow up believing that women have uncontrollable sexual desires.
     
    Projection.

    It's Mohammedan men who can't process the thrill they get from a flash of female skin escaping a burning building. Most of the world's men would rise chivalrously to the occasion and feel heroic saving the girls' lives. Not Arabs, the childrace. They know their own kind, too.

    "Arabs are the joke of the world." --Col. Gaddafi

    If it only it was true.

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  179. @Charles Martel
    A good friend of mine who is from Slovakia recounted a hilarious tale in the summer. He said that a bus that had picked up migrants coming from the Middle East (presumably) stopped in Slovakia - the migrants thought they had stopped in Austria. So one of them asked where they had stopped. Someone said Slovakia. When they heard this, they were in utter despair - almost panicked beyond their wits. Their greatest fear was that the EU mandarins handling this would leave them in Slovakia where the local thugs would treat them like scum. There was even an online video circulating on this a while back. And my friend laughed his guts out. He said that although he is Slovak himself, if he went into the nearby village where he is not known and casually went into the local bar for a drink, the local toughs would start checking him out and this could end potentially in a fight.

    Now let's think about this for a second. Can you ever tell the difference (racially) between a Slovak and an Austrian? They share a border and were once part of the same empire and were for most of their history Catholic. Slovakia had the "misfortune" of falling into the Soviet "sphere of influence", Austria became a part of the "Free West." And there you have it. The likelihood that some local thugs in Austria would take matters into their own hands and deal with the problem "pronto" is close to zero. In Slovakia, the chances of this happening are quite high. It is not without good reason that not one of these migrants wants to have anything to do with Eastern Europe. They couldn't care less if all of them ended up in Germany.

    Now let's engage in a thought experiment: imagine of some such "gang" had attempted this in a city in Russia? Actually Russia does have a large Muslim population. But they know their place. The Western European female ruled societies have created the problem from scratch and now don't know how to deal with it (do women know what brutality and use of force really means - actually do most Western men even know how to use brutality when the need presents itself)?

    In Syria, the Islamic "militias" reacted with extreme alarm when the Russians entered the war zone in late September. They knew that unlike the whining, snivelling, feminized West that has long forgotten how to fight, the Russians don't take prisoners and don't worry about massacring the enemy when the need arises. A Saudi cleric issued a warning that the Russians constituted the most mortal threat that had yet presented itself. In the areas where the Russians have been bombing remorselessly, that view has been proven correct.

    A society ruled by old women is ripe for conquest and slavery. Frau Merkel is a symptom of a deeper problem.

    Actually Russia does have a large Muslim population. But they know their place.

    You do realize that in Russia Chechens and other Muslims catcall Russian women and get away with it. Putin has a special arrangement with Chechen leader Kadyrov: keep his people from disturbing the stability of the State and they’ll have first class status.

    Before the Russian people were successfully distracted there was even movement towards a backlash:

    http://rbth.com/society/2013/07/11/pugachev_murder_triggers_popular_unrest_over_governments_ethnic_polic_27981.html

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  180. @anon
    blaming the victims is an attempt to deflect attention away from the threat

    blaming the victims is an attempt to deflect attention away from the threat

    I guess you and people making similar comments have never been out for an authentically rolicking good time.

    The women act and look like whores to these guys, and probably to nearly every member of western civ until the past generation.

    There is a reason modest dress is encouraged/adopted in healthy societies. BTW, the converse does not follow, modest dress does not necessarily imply health societies, so please don’t accuse me of saying this. I shouldn’t have to write that out, but you doubtlessly have zero facility with predicate logic and if I didn’t spell this out Barney-style, you would have further cluttered this thread with another vacuous thought. Actually, “thought” would give too much credit – maybe “echo some other person’s vacuous thought” would be more accurate.

    You sound like one of those naifs who says, oh, lets put women on submarines and it is all the guys fault if one of them so much leers at a female. That school of thought contends that the men are supposed to obey orders, right?, and this is just a discipline problem, not a human nature. The difference between the male submariners and the refugees is only quantitative, not qualitative.

    I’m one of those who think maybe a machine gun emplacement at Ellis Island might have been a better idea than a welcome center, so I have no sympathy for the “refugees” in europe. But I’m not interested in being a protective male, defending some society so the women can go around acting and looking like whores.

    Problem is, you (or people from whom such mindlessly unoriginal and unthinking drivel oozes – hint: “blame the victim” was trite nlt than late 1970s – are so saturated with propaganda you’ve been co-opted yourself by the degeneracy and so forth that you probably believe you oppose.

    Despite all that, there is another thing I know. Regardless of my opinions on cultural decay, I would come to the aid of one of those victims well before you would no matter how long I paused because you never would. But I wouldn’t be waiting for the move you are never going to make, I would be acting post-haste.

    Because I have in the past, been there, done that, given and taken some lumps and I am a very lucky man to be alive and typing now. I’m sure you will dismiss this as braggadocio, though.

    To the point – why I know this about you and your ilk. People who repeat such reflexive idiocies are cowards. Mentally, simply because they parrot the small ideas of others. And physically, because the body follows the mind.

    You’d know all this too if you had the slightest hint of a backbone. Try doing or thinking something original, daring, take a risk for once in your useless life rather than just being a shallow and transparent tool.

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    blaming the victims is an attempt by people who want the destruction of europeans to deflect attention away from the threat.
    , @random observer
    I would largely agree with your sentiments, though I admit one thing gave me pause right off the bat and one other response occurred to me later.

    One is that even when young I can't for a minute imagine myself having gone out for a good old fashioned rape party, nor anyone I knew, nor any male to whom I was related of any generation known to me. It doesn't mean I can't tell the difference between looking like a decent girl and a whore, but if I was looking for a whore I'd probably have paid her the money. [Can't imagine it would be worth the shots I might have needed, though. I was a teen in the 80s. Couldn't get the image of lesions out of my head.] Call me beta, I guess.

    The more important point by way of response would be that if European and American girls look and act like whores, then at minimum they are our whores to be managed by us if we can finally get a handle on it. Not to be lined up and pawned off to keep the trash happy.
    , @random observer
    Although I admit I'm impressed by that second half...
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  181. @Expletive Deleted
    Oh all right then guv it's a fair cop.
    I knew all along that if you spunk a round off in the general direction of God, it just runs out of puff due to various fluids dragging it to a stop, and goes into a low orbit along with the battered relics all the ten-gallon hats, footballs, rabbits, cows, cigarette butts, beercans and fleas ever loosed upwards.

    If bullets were the size of housebricks, or cows, then I'd be worried. Any of them dropped from a mile 0r so might sting a bit, due to the influence of the ridiculously feeble force of gravity, and compounding. Their mass ensures that any buffering due to air resistance wouldn't help a lot.
    If on the other hand, there was no air, we'd still be fairly safe, as the ammo would just beetle off into space, having easily defeated gravity.
    You sla-aaaa-gggg!

    “Oh all right then guv it’s a fair cop.
    I knew all along that if you spunk a round off in the general direction of God, it just runs out of puff due to various fluids dragging it to a stop, and goes into a low orbit along with the battered relics all the ten-gallon hats, footballs, rabbits, cows, cigarette butts, beercans and fleas ever loosed upwards.

    If bullets were the size of housebricks, or cows, then I’d be worried. Any of them dropped from a mile 0r so might sting a bit, due to the influence of the ridiculously feeble force of gravity, and compounding. Their mass ensures that any buffering due to air resistance wouldn’t help a lot.
    If on the other hand, there was no air, we’d still be fairly safe, as the ammo would just beetle off into space, having easily defeated gravity.
    You sla-aaaa-gggg!”

    Good thing for you that spouting physics without a clue isn’t against the law. I thought your first comment was bad, but you’d get life if not the chair for this one.

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  182. @festivegunfire
    They're not bs stories. If you're ever experienced the practice up close, you'd understand by the sheer round of shots going off by multiple people, often in close quarters, bullets will eventually hit any improbable area, physics of gunfire be damned. If you visit a culture that practices festive gunfire, you won't have trouble meeting someone with a family member or friend who got killed during festive gunfire, seemingly out of nowhere, from an improbable angle (or someone who was killed in revenge). The cultural practice often coincides with cultures that practice vendetta killings, so naturally there are family sagas of long feuds, and (usually) males, even young boys, being killed in the aftermath of an accidental death from festive gunfire. I've been in the midst of "balofies" in Crete, and it was utterly terrifying, even purely from a visceral standpoint.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-35205145

    The cultural practice of firing a fully automatic AK-47 up in the air isn’t that ancient. Wasn’t seen anywhere before 1947 as it happens.

    Firing a vertically inclined gun during celebrations have its roots in the pre-gunpowder tradition of “pumping” a sword or knife in the air, a transmuted and societally accepted way of “displaying ones manhood”.

    The spent casings on the ground also represent a real problem. They act like roller bearings and it’s easy to trip on them and get hurt. So watch your step and don’t fire unless you’re standing still!

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    The cultural practice of firing a fully automatic AK-47 up in the air isn’t that ancient. Wasn’t seen anywhere before 1947 as it happens.
     
    The AK47 was still in development in 1947, so I guess that is a pretty safe statement.

    What about other firearms?
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  183. @Yngvar
    The cultural practice of firing a fully automatic AK-47 up in the air isn't that ancient. Wasn't seen anywhere before 1947 as it happens.

    Firing a vertically inclined gun during celebrations have its roots in the pre-gunpowder tradition of "pumping" a sword or knife in the air, a transmuted and societally accepted way of "displaying ones manhood".

    The spent casings on the ground also represent a real problem. They act like roller bearings and it's easy to trip on them and get hurt. So watch your step and don't fire unless you're standing still!

    The cultural practice of firing a fully automatic AK-47 up in the air isn’t that ancient. Wasn’t seen anywhere before 1947 as it happens.

    The AK47 was still in development in 1947, so I guess that is a pretty safe statement.

    What about other firearms?

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    Afghans started firing muskets into the air in the 18th Century or so. Musket balls didn't have enough exit velocity to get high enough usually to do more than give concussions. Modern rifles, which as the young Churchill noted, were introduced into the Highlands in the late 19th Century could kill, but by then firing into the air to celebrate was Tradition.
    , @festivegunfire
    Cretan Greeks don't fire AK 47's, they fire pistols and other kinds of rifles, including those old ones with beautiful engravings on them, and the practice goes very, very far back in the relevant regions of the Balkans. But I doubt it's as embedded a cultural practice in all the parts of the world that we now witness it with AK 47's or even handguns. How interesting that it evolved from a macho display of pumping a sword or knife.

    Every so often a Greek politician or high-profile celebrity will launch an earnest campaign against Crete's gun culture, and fail spectacularly. And it's really more of an indirect campaign against vendetta culture, because vendettas are often sparked by accidental gun deaths, such as during festivities. Intentional gun violence is incredibly low in Crete, especially when you consider the abundance of (mostly unregistered) guns. I think it was Mikis Theodorakis, who led one such failed campaign, and said with resignation that they've loved their weapons for thousands of years, how could we possibly believe we could change it?

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  184. @anonguy

    The cultural practice of firing a fully automatic AK-47 up in the air isn’t that ancient. Wasn’t seen anywhere before 1947 as it happens.
     
    The AK47 was still in development in 1947, so I guess that is a pretty safe statement.

    What about other firearms?

    Afghans started firing muskets into the air in the 18th Century or so. Musket balls didn’t have enough exit velocity to get high enough usually to do more than give concussions. Modern rifles, which as the young Churchill noted, were introduced into the Highlands in the late 19th Century could kill, but by then firing into the air to celebrate was Tradition.

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  185. @anonguy

    The cultural practice of firing a fully automatic AK-47 up in the air isn’t that ancient. Wasn’t seen anywhere before 1947 as it happens.
     
    The AK47 was still in development in 1947, so I guess that is a pretty safe statement.

    What about other firearms?

    Cretan Greeks don’t fire AK 47′s, they fire pistols and other kinds of rifles, including those old ones with beautiful engravings on them, and the practice goes very, very far back in the relevant regions of the Balkans. But I doubt it’s as embedded a cultural practice in all the parts of the world that we now witness it with AK 47′s or even handguns. How interesting that it evolved from a macho display of pumping a sword or knife.

    Every so often a Greek politician or high-profile celebrity will launch an earnest campaign against Crete’s gun culture, and fail spectacularly. And it’s really more of an indirect campaign against vendetta culture, because vendettas are often sparked by accidental gun deaths, such as during festivities. Intentional gun violence is incredibly low in Crete, especially when you consider the abundance of (mostly unregistered) guns. I think it was Mikis Theodorakis, who led one such failed campaign, and said with resignation that they’ve loved their weapons for thousands of years, how could we possibly believe we could change it?

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  186. @anonguy

    blaming the victims is an attempt to deflect attention away from the threat
     
    I guess you and people making similar comments have never been out for an authentically rolicking good time.

    The women act and look like whores to these guys, and probably to nearly every member of western civ until the past generation.

    There is a reason modest dress is encouraged/adopted in healthy societies. BTW, the converse does not follow, modest dress does not necessarily imply health societies, so please don't accuse me of saying this. I shouldn't have to write that out, but you doubtlessly have zero facility with predicate logic and if I didn't spell this out Barney-style, you would have further cluttered this thread with another vacuous thought. Actually, "thought" would give too much credit - maybe "echo some other person's vacuous thought" would be more accurate.

    You sound like one of those naifs who says, oh, lets put women on submarines and it is all the guys fault if one of them so much leers at a female. That school of thought contends that the men are supposed to obey orders, right?, and this is just a discipline problem, not a human nature. The difference between the male submariners and the refugees is only quantitative, not qualitative.

    I'm one of those who think maybe a machine gun emplacement at Ellis Island might have been a better idea than a welcome center, so I have no sympathy for the "refugees" in europe. But I'm not interested in being a protective male, defending some society so the women can go around acting and looking like whores.

    Problem is, you (or people from whom such mindlessly unoriginal and unthinking drivel oozes - hint: "blame the victim" was trite nlt than late 1970s - are so saturated with propaganda you've been co-opted yourself by the degeneracy and so forth that you probably believe you oppose.

    Despite all that, there is another thing I know. Regardless of my opinions on cultural decay, I would come to the aid of one of those victims well before you would no matter how long I paused because you never would. But I wouldn't be waiting for the move you are never going to make, I would be acting post-haste.

    Because I have in the past, been there, done that, given and taken some lumps and I am a very lucky man to be alive and typing now. I'm sure you will dismiss this as braggadocio, though.

    To the point - why I know this about you and your ilk. People who repeat such reflexive idiocies are cowards. Mentally, simply because they parrot the small ideas of others. And physically, because the body follows the mind.

    You'd know all this too if you had the slightest hint of a backbone. Try doing or thinking something original, daring, take a risk for once in your useless life rather than just being a shallow and transparent tool.

    That was long…

    blaming the victims is an attempt by people who want the destruction of europeans to deflect attention away from the threat.

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  187. These so-called “rapists” were just living up to a time-honored Ferengi maxim: “Females do not deserve the honor of clothing.

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  188. @Anon
    What happened in Haight-Asbury that supposedly epitomized love and peace in the 60s?
    So many young girls were taken advantage by louts and thugs and hornballs.

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1968/12/28/page/28/article/10-hippies-held-in-girls-rape-and-slaying

    https://amietheauthor.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/the-haight-was-full-of-hate-the-true-story-of-the-summer-of-love/

    I don't see this as a Muslim problem. And I don't think the main reason is because all these young men got their ideas from the Koran.

    When you create conditions were lots of rough young men are allowed to invade a territory and given freedom to rampage around, this will happen, especially if the word is out that western women are 'begging for it' --- according to pop culture --- and western men are too afraid to stand up for their women.

    What did Soviet troops do in WWII? They didn't just rape German women but just about any women they could get their hands on.
    But there was a good deal of rapes and rampaging by US soldiers too. They were not Muslim. And what happened in Nanking? Buddhist Japanese did that stuff.

    Germany and etc are not in a state of war, but they created war-like conditions, especially since these 'refugees' are escaping from war zones. For yrs, they've lived in desperation, chaos, and anarchy. They are hungry, horny, shellshocked. They've been animalized by constant warfare and destruction. And degraded by internet culture of whore-ism and western trashism that makes them both long for the west in animal delight and despise it for its moral degradation.

    They feel both anger and gratitude to be in the West. They see the West as having created this havoc in the Middle East but they are also happy to be inside rich nations. And their expectations are high. They want free stuff, they want women.

    Besides, these guys would NOT be in Europe if Western nations hadn't surrendered to the GLOB. The power of GLOB, through media-academia-government say that 'European values' must call for deracination. Having surrendered to the GLOB, western nations opened their borders to the Muslim hordes and African hordes since the GLOB orders such.

    In ancient Babylon, adults sacrificed young children to some terrible god.
    Today, white folks sacrifice their children to toxic mammon of Pop Culture(that turns youngsters into whores or pimps) and Political Correctness(that lobotomized whites of their racial-survival instinct).

    The Muslim punks are taking advantage of the situation. But they didn't create it.
    If you cut yourself open and expose it, germs and flies will soon do their thing.

    Haight-Ashbury is a good example, as would be any number of music festivals and similar events in certain times and places- young men can get out of control in the right conditions.

    It is also quite true that soldiers from every culture get out of hand with local women, including enemy women. Although there are some cultural variations there. It gets worse when there is a specific ethnic enmity, some revenge for an earlier stage of the war when things were going the other way, or when one side is trained early on to assume it is a master race and other human cattle exist to serve it. That last would be a blunt way of characterizing Imperial Japan’s general attitude to Korean and Chinese comfort women. Nor is it impossible to derive such attitudes from any religion, including Buddhism. Spin is all.

    [Sidebar- I don't see many people saying it is specifically the Koran or Islamic religious teachings that produce these problems, more like the interaction of traditional conservative norms in many latterly Muslim societies, importation and assimilation of often even more conservative Arab norms along with Islam too.]

    But no, this is not equivalent of soldiers in war. That analogy is false. Germany and these people are not at war, nor are the latter a conquering army who had to fight their way through the Wehrmacht at great expense, as a consequence their suffering is nothing compared with that of the Soviet infantryman circa 1945 [the latter walked farther, in worse conditions, fighting all the way], nor did Germany in any way cause their suffering such as it was, so they are not acting out revenge for their homes and families destroyed by Germans. If they think that is what they are doing in Germany, they should be disabused by corporal means and then expelled.

    The proper analogy would be to the millions of refugees floating around Europe in 1945-6. A whole continent vast stretches of which were in worse shape than Syria is right now, with many more people displaced, and having seen and suffered things AT LEAST as bad as anyone coming out of Syria right now. Some of them did bad stuff, I am sure, including rape and murder. Then again, some of them were either doing it at least to their own compatriots in their own country, or doing it to the people next door against whom they might claim legitimate grievances, including the Germans themselves. But how often did refugees turn up en masse in a peaceful, undamaged city in some country that had welcomed them and offered refuge, only to start raping local girls? How many tried to migrate to another continent altogether and ended up raping citizens of friendly receiving countries there? [trick question of course- Europeans circa 1945-6 had a couple of next-door regions they could have migrated to, but even under European rule these places could not be made as good as Europe could be remade in a few short years; the only optional and good continents could not be reached without papers and ships].

    The Middle East now is of course not like Europe 1945-6 at all. The damage is as yet far too localized and the fatalities and tragedies comparatively few in number. If the Sunni-Shia war gets really out of hand and actually sees Syria-level fighting in 3-4 more countries for a few more years [actually it would need to be worse than Syria-level fighting, or Iraq-level], then it might be equivalent to what Europeans had faced. And yet already the region is exporting fit young men to go rape German and Scandinavian girls.

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  189. Not sure if it’s been mentioned…

    The same thing happened in the year 2000 in Athens Greece during new year’s celebrations. Here’s some video footage of the groping and beating:

    The perpetrators were Albanian.

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  190. @anonguy

    blaming the victims is an attempt to deflect attention away from the threat
     
    I guess you and people making similar comments have never been out for an authentically rolicking good time.

    The women act and look like whores to these guys, and probably to nearly every member of western civ until the past generation.

    There is a reason modest dress is encouraged/adopted in healthy societies. BTW, the converse does not follow, modest dress does not necessarily imply health societies, so please don't accuse me of saying this. I shouldn't have to write that out, but you doubtlessly have zero facility with predicate logic and if I didn't spell this out Barney-style, you would have further cluttered this thread with another vacuous thought. Actually, "thought" would give too much credit - maybe "echo some other person's vacuous thought" would be more accurate.

    You sound like one of those naifs who says, oh, lets put women on submarines and it is all the guys fault if one of them so much leers at a female. That school of thought contends that the men are supposed to obey orders, right?, and this is just a discipline problem, not a human nature. The difference between the male submariners and the refugees is only quantitative, not qualitative.

    I'm one of those who think maybe a machine gun emplacement at Ellis Island might have been a better idea than a welcome center, so I have no sympathy for the "refugees" in europe. But I'm not interested in being a protective male, defending some society so the women can go around acting and looking like whores.

    Problem is, you (or people from whom such mindlessly unoriginal and unthinking drivel oozes - hint: "blame the victim" was trite nlt than late 1970s - are so saturated with propaganda you've been co-opted yourself by the degeneracy and so forth that you probably believe you oppose.

    Despite all that, there is another thing I know. Regardless of my opinions on cultural decay, I would come to the aid of one of those victims well before you would no matter how long I paused because you never would. But I wouldn't be waiting for the move you are never going to make, I would be acting post-haste.

    Because I have in the past, been there, done that, given and taken some lumps and I am a very lucky man to be alive and typing now. I'm sure you will dismiss this as braggadocio, though.

    To the point - why I know this about you and your ilk. People who repeat such reflexive idiocies are cowards. Mentally, simply because they parrot the small ideas of others. And physically, because the body follows the mind.

    You'd know all this too if you had the slightest hint of a backbone. Try doing or thinking something original, daring, take a risk for once in your useless life rather than just being a shallow and transparent tool.

    I would largely agree with your sentiments, though I admit one thing gave me pause right off the bat and one other response occurred to me later.

    One is that even when young I can’t for a minute imagine myself having gone out for a good old fashioned rape party, nor anyone I knew, nor any male to whom I was related of any generation known to me. It doesn’t mean I can’t tell the difference between looking like a decent girl and a whore, but if I was looking for a whore I’d probably have paid her the money. [Can't imagine it would be worth the shots I might have needed, though. I was a teen in the 80s. Couldn't get the image of lesions out of my head.] Call me beta, I guess.

    The more important point by way of response would be that if European and American girls look and act like whores, then at minimum they are our whores to be managed by us if we can finally get a handle on it. Not to be lined up and pawned off to keep the trash happy.

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  191. @anonguy

    blaming the victims is an attempt to deflect attention away from the threat
     
    I guess you and people making similar comments have never been out for an authentically rolicking good time.

    The women act and look like whores to these guys, and probably to nearly every member of western civ until the past generation.

    There is a reason modest dress is encouraged/adopted in healthy societies. BTW, the converse does not follow, modest dress does not necessarily imply health societies, so please don't accuse me of saying this. I shouldn't have to write that out, but you doubtlessly have zero facility with predicate logic and if I didn't spell this out Barney-style, you would have further cluttered this thread with another vacuous thought. Actually, "thought" would give too much credit - maybe "echo some other person's vacuous thought" would be more accurate.

    You sound like one of those naifs who says, oh, lets put women on submarines and it is all the guys fault if one of them so much leers at a female. That school of thought contends that the men are supposed to obey orders, right?, and this is just a discipline problem, not a human nature. The difference between the male submariners and the refugees is only quantitative, not qualitative.

    I'm one of those who think maybe a machine gun emplacement at Ellis Island might have been a better idea than a welcome center, so I have no sympathy for the "refugees" in europe. But I'm not interested in being a protective male, defending some society so the women can go around acting and looking like whores.

    Problem is, you (or people from whom such mindlessly unoriginal and unthinking drivel oozes - hint: "blame the victim" was trite nlt than late 1970s - are so saturated with propaganda you've been co-opted yourself by the degeneracy and so forth that you probably believe you oppose.

    Despite all that, there is another thing I know. Regardless of my opinions on cultural decay, I would come to the aid of one of those victims well before you would no matter how long I paused because you never would. But I wouldn't be waiting for the move you are never going to make, I would be acting post-haste.

    Because I have in the past, been there, done that, given and taken some lumps and I am a very lucky man to be alive and typing now. I'm sure you will dismiss this as braggadocio, though.

    To the point - why I know this about you and your ilk. People who repeat such reflexive idiocies are cowards. Mentally, simply because they parrot the small ideas of others. And physically, because the body follows the mind.

    You'd know all this too if you had the slightest hint of a backbone. Try doing or thinking something original, daring, take a risk for once in your useless life rather than just being a shallow and transparent tool.

    Although I admit I’m impressed by that second half…

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  192. @anonguy

    Today’s western women really are whores.

    They are trash. And western fathers are a total disgrace raising girls like these.
     

    I abhor the behavior of the mob in Cologne of course, but I can hardly blame them for the impressions they've formed about western degeneracy. I'd bet that any Ozzies transported from 1950s or earlier western civ to the present day would come to conclusions closer to those of the refugees than those of a contemporary western male. They'd just differ only in what actions they might take based upon those conclusions and I'm not entirely convinced that a bunch of young, footloose partying 1950s western men might similarly conclude that they are in the midst of some Saturnalia, jungle rules apply, and decide to join the fun in some manner from which they would be inhibited in their original environment. And since they are new to all this, they might misjudge the situation a bit.

    Same thing sometimes happens with western guys visiting Boy's Towns along the Mexican border, current/former fleshpots like Thailand, Phillipines, etc., which can seem at first like anything goes, but even degenerated social milieus have some social boundaries that aren't at all obvious at first to people from more ordered societies.

    The only difference is that in Cologne they were running in a group of 1000+ as opposed to two or three bros getting out of hand in some unbelievable, to a typical middle class first world neophyte, red light district.

    Again, I'm not at all giving the mob a pass on behavior, but their initial conclusions aren't entirely irrational given the stark contrast between the way many women present these days in our society and theirs.

    Judging from the minimizing statements of the left-ish media/German authorities, it seems like this is one point where social conservatives and liberals may find some agreement

    I’d bet that any Ozzies transported from 1950s or earlier western civ to the present day would come to conclusions closer to those of the refugees than those of a contemporary western male. They’d just differ only in what actions they might take based upon those conclusions and I’m not entirely convinced that a bunch of young, footloose partying 1950s western men might similarly conclude that they are in the midst of some Saturnalia, jungle rules apply, and decide to join the fun in some manner from which they would be inhibited in their original environment.

    And another thing: This was JANUARY in GERMANY!

    The women weren’t running around half-naked.

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  193. @Jefferson
    "Not true.

    Plenty of women in the Muslim world dress modern."

    BULLSHIT ANON. If that were true, why are Infidel women who travel to Arab Muslim countries always forced to wear a niqab or a hijab.

    Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice for example were always wearing Islamic approved clothing for women whenever they traveled to Islamic countries.

    "Today’s western women really are whores."

    Yeah women in Miami Beach, Cancun, Rio De Janeiro, Havana, Malibu, Honolulu, Costa Rica, Santa Monica, Acapulco, etc should all dress like women in Syria, Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Pakistan,etc because if they don't than they are whores right Anon.

    It doesn't matter if it is 100F degrees outside, women still should not show any skin in public right Anon.

    If just the mere sight of exposed female skin automatically causes Arab Muslim men the urge to go out and rape the first Infidel woman they see, than Arab Muslim men have worse impulse control than African American men and Hispanic men. A lack of impulse control is associated with a lower IQ.

    I have lived in south Florida for more than 25 years, and I have long maintained we should apply a “bikini test” to prospective immigrants: “We are accustomed to dress very lightly when we go to the beach or a swimming pool. Are you comfortable having you wife, sister or daughter wearing a bikini at the beach?” A number of years ago when I was living in a different complex, I was at the pool when a woman showed up fully covered from neck to ankles and started swimming in the pool. I could easily guess the religion of the woman, and I was utterly repelled by the strange sight and felt cheated out of an opportunity to appraise a woman’s body. (BTW I could care less whether the husband had shown up in that outfit, but, when a woman does so, there is something unAmerican about that practice. Where’s Joe McCarthy when we really need him?) BTW here’s a picture we can sure when administering the test. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/arts/music/zhu-chris-young-and-wiki-release-new-albums.html (scroll down to Darlene Ortiz).

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  194. Tbraton,

    7 or 8 years ago I talked to a 30-yo woman at an apartment pool. Her bikini bottom was about 60% of the size of what is considered appropriate in this country. She said she was Muslim, but she was from Turkey, and things were different there.

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