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From Google’s Ngram of mentions in books up through 2007 (zero smoothing).

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The less white privilege exists, the more it gets talked about.

In my general impression, white privilege and Jewish privilege are fairly comparable in causes, magnitude, as well as quantity and quality of evidence for their existence. For example, whites tend to make more money than nonwhites and Jews tend to make more money than gentiles, and for roughly similar sets of reasons. Whether “privilege” is an appropriate term for either of the two gaps are about equally arguable.

In other words, thinking about Jewish privilege can help us obtain a better perspective on white privilege and vice-versa.

The main difference between the two as of 2018 is that our society is obsessed with uncovering and crushing examples of white privilege and is utterly oblivious to the potential existence of Jewish privilege.

So, people who want to talk about White Privilege should also do a compare/contrast of their arguments with Jewish Privilege, and vice-versa. If you feel the urge to tell us about White Privilege, try substituting into your text the term “Jewish Privilege” and then decide if you feel as confident about your arguments. (And vice-versa.)

The quantity of assertions about Privilege might decline somewhat, but the quality would definitely increase.

 
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  1. What’s the proportion of Whites to Jews in the World population?

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    "Too High"?
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  2. In my general impression, white privilege and Jewish privilege are fairly comparable in causes, magnitude, as well as quantity and quality of evidence for their existence.

    Magnitude? Well, I guess if you don’t control for sample size.

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    yeah well substituting jew privilege every time white privilege was mentioned would certainly do the impossible - get a liberal to acknowledge a rational argument at least internally.which is why its never going to be allowed. however i have lonh thought its an excellent alt right tactic that ought to be used as a response to 'white privilege' alternately with ' white privilege is earned social trust accorded by all races to whites in accordance with observations they have made about white behavior"
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  3. The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice ‘ethnic nepotism’ everywhere they go is–to put it kindly–laughable. The idea that significant numbers of white people practice supremacist behaviour–much less even maintain a consciousness of such–is principally the stuff of MSM, television and movie entertainment. The vast majority of which is produced by….hmm, who could it be now?

    Please tell me the echelons of American institutions, professions, business, education, media, and so on where ‘gentile’ white people are wildly over-represented. I’ll be waiting. When you’ve given up on that task, try this one: discover the average wealth of Jewish households in America. Not income; wealth. Don’t hold your breath, though, because I care about your health.

    Of course, if I really cared about your health I wouldn’t even set you about the task. Not only is it cruelly futile, but you can get in serious trouble in our society asking questions like these. Stay safe: move on to the next post. See? I do care.

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    • Replies: @Obsessive Contrarian
    "The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice ‘ethnic nepotism’ everywhere they go is–to put it kindly–laughable."

    The idea that Jews get jobs based on ethnic nepotism is laughable. Especially Jews from State U.

    That the Jewish Establishment exists and throws its weight to censor ideas and promote others, not laughable. I think that's what this post is about.
    , @Erik L
    Adding "wildly" is putting your thumb on the scale. Wikipedia says non Hispanic whites are 62% of the US population so whites could not be, for example, double their population fraction in any given industry. They can, however be over-represented in a statistically significant way (i.e. unlikely due to random distribution) it's just no one keeps an eye on that. If (made up examples) it turned out that the people who run the chemical, weapons, aerospace, agriculture, and/or plumbing fixtures industries were 90% non-Jewish, non-Hispanic white, no one would bat an eye. That's just normal, right?
    , @Anonymous
    Hockey?

    Golf (professional, that is)?
    , @Anonymouse
    "The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice ‘ethnic nepotism’ everywhere they go is–to put it kindly–laughable." Presumably, you are implying that it is a fact that jews are obsessively tribalistic and practice 'ethnic nepotism' everywhere they go. Everywhere and in America too. I know I am prejudiced but if true how come I an 84 yr old jew have never seen a hair of evidence for it in real life, neither on E 38th st in Brooklyn growing up, or in future years interacting with many other jews in college and afterwards? Do you really imagine that ambitious jews jockeying for supremacy in any field behave nepotistically to other jews?
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  4. Simple solution. Once someone brings up white privilege, simply reply, “You really mean Jewish privilege, don’t you?” Refuse to continue if they still deny it.

    However, this tactic is meant for private conversations. Politicians and academics should be encouraged to go on and on and on about it, until election season returns. (As if it ever left.)

    Trumpistas and their allies should collect and collate all these statements. The right can no longer win elections, but can still make the Left lose them. “White privilege” is the ideal issue. For our side.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Jews” are “White” when they’ve done something bad.

    Yet when they’ve done something good, they’re “Jews” .... and not “Whites”.
    , @Corvinus
    "Simple solution. Once someone brings up white privilege, simply reply, “You really mean Jewish privilege, don’t you?” Refuse to continue if they still deny it."

    Except most normies believe that Jews are white, so your strategy is going to fall on deaf ears. At least you gave it the old college try.
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  5. Just bringing up Jewish Privilege and Jewish Supremacy, no matter how civilly and politely you bring it up, will get you labelled an anti-semite.

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    • Replies: @anon
    my business partner's girlfriend is jewish, and he complained to me one day that he got in trouble for just bringing up the fact that jews are overrepresented in hollywood. i'm a half jew and agree that it's dumb that you can't even mention it. maybe it's because my ancestors have been in the states a long time (antebellum on both sides) and we don't have a family history of never-forgetting...
    , @Kratoklastes

    will get you labelled an anti-semite
     
    Is that still a thing?

    It's such an overplayed trope: it's like the stereotypical high-school lunk calling someone 'faggot'.

    I would have thought that anyone who uttered it would immediately be rejected as being unreliable. As unreliable, say, as the authors of 'riveting first-person accounts' of the unpleasant aspects of life in early-1940s Europe - authors for whom it is illegal, in some European countries, to point out that the narrative is a total fabrication (some things are truth even if they didn't happen, apparently).

    I suppose marketing types still use "Up to X% off" and "Reduces the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles" - strong evidence that those paid to influence human decision-making have a very low opinion of the cognitive grunt of the viewing audience.

    Perhaps we will have to wait another ten years before we see the final throes of amateur theatrics like rabbit-eaters shrieking "anti-Semite" at the drop of a hat.

    (rabbit-eaters: [descendants of] hovel dwellers from the Caucasus - i.e., people who are about as Semitic as I am Xhosa... inb4 "Semitic now means whatever Likud says it means")
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  6. And to rub in it, people like doughy, unfunny Amy Schumer become rich and successful due to their Jewish privilege yet go around, as she did the other day, apologizing for their white privilege.

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    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.
    , @Thea
    Surely there are more attractive, interesting and talented Jewish women out there than Schumer. Why her?
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  7. Whites know about Jewish Privilege, they are just too cowed to say anything about it, unless they are crazy or have nothing to lose.

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    Whites know about Jewish Privilege, they are just too cowed to say anything about it, unless they are crazy or have nothing to lose.

     

    Plenty of the Norman, Flemish, French, Bretons and other soldiers that went over to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 were crazy AND had nothing to lose. Their descendants are still around, both in England, Canada, United States, Australia and other nations.

    All you have to do is give a speech in public where you say that the warmongering Neo-Conservatives have hijacked the foreign policy of the GOP ruling class. You have to directly say that the Neo-Conservative faction of the GOP is controlled by the Jews. They'll retort something about Bush and Cheney being WASPs, but then you should retort that they're treasonous WASP whores for the Jew Neo-Conservatives. The GOP faction that still loves Cheney and Bush is dwindling to nothing.

    You might also go big balls to impress the young White Core Americans by saying that Shelly Adelson has too much control of the GOP, especially on immigration policy and foreign policy as it relates to the Middle East and Israel.

    When the rats call you an anti-Semite, tell the rats to go to hell. Drink a cold beer and tell the rats to go to hell.

    The WASP / Jew ruling class of the American Empire is about to be pushed off a cliff.
    , @attilathehen
    Exactly. It will get more difficult to defend "Jewish privilege." Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. This black/Jewish offspring will be surreal:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5644925/Jeremy-Meeks-father-jail-33-years-murder-young-mother.html

    (((Chloe Green))) Topshop heiress will marry the black Jeremy Meeks.
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  8. anon[248] • Disclaimer says:

    So called “white privilege” is actually “Jew privilege”. Jews run this country, from Wall Street to K Street, deep state, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, the legal system, the media, academia, you name it, Jews dominate every important institution in this country. Jews like to hire and promote other Jews, not just in the same company and industry, but even across industries. The term “expert” is what Jews in the media call Jews in academia, medicine esp. psychology, business, technology or government. Jews like to cite work done by other Jews, all to further promote and perpetuate the notion that Jews are the smartest people therefore deserve to be at the top.

    The irony is, the rainbow coalition groomed by the Jews to attack white privilege are actually complaining about Jewish male privilege. For example:
    1) Asians who complain about Affirmative Action at the Ivy League are really complaining about Jews since they are the most over represented group, and the group that’s benefiting the most from legacy and development admissions.
    2) Blacks and women who complain about racism and sexism in Silicon Valley are actually complaining about Jews who pretty much dominate the upper echelon of Silicon Valley, those these days they are pretty good about putting up Indian puppet CEOs who are basically glorified managers so they can control things more stealthily.
    3) An overwhelming majority of the #MeToo sex abusers are Jewish men in media, entertainment, government, as well as black men.

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  9. Get real. Jews are the promoters of the white privilege meme. Jews hate white Christians and mean to do harm to all white Christians.

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  10. Um most People of Color disagree with you

    That tells you something right there

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  11. There is no comparison. WP is a joke in the era of affirmative action and quotas.

    The difference is that Jewish privilege opens doors that are closed even for talented whites. Want to go to a nice Ivy League school? For a Jew it’s no problem. They’re networked and tribal as can be. Want a nice mid six figure gig writing useless articles for some think tank or news paper like Boot or Goldberg – no problem.

    Want to make rank as a general? You take up the Neo-Con mantra and make sure all the right people in D.C. hear you. Petreus and McMaster did that. It’s funny, McMaster’s CO never did and ended up retiring as a Lt. Col.

    Want to get on Fox News as a military or foreign policy expert? Mouth the Neo-Con agenda.

    Furthermore if you’re a white with public stature and you point any of this out. You’re finished.

    Mind you I don’t obsess over the tribe like McDonald or others do. But their influence is so way out of proportion to their size and their control of the the PC/MC movement, MSM, banking and the legal system makes them very hard to miss.

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  12. In a lot of contexts, perhaps most, “white privilege” means being more likely to be trusted and treated better by strangers e.g. police officers, bank tellers, shopkeepers, bartenders, etc. In such contexts, Jews generally enjoy such favorable treatment but it’s not particularly distinct from white privilege so it doesn’t make sense to talk about “Jewish privilege.”

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  13. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:

    Completely OT, but this news story was recommended to me, and it was too good not to share:

    http://www.wcnc.com/mobile/article/news/i-cant-believe-this-charlotte-man-says-he-was-asked-to-leave-starbucks/275-543626153.

    “Why are you asking me to leave Starbucks, a public place?” asked Cook in his cell phone video he recorded.

    The day had started with a coffee purchase and then he left.

    A few hours later, Cook returned to study in the coffee shop when he was approached by a security guard, telling him to leave, because he hadn’t made a new purchase on his second visit to the store.

    So, this African-American gentleman’s theory is that, if you ever buy something at a business, you are entitled to take up residence in it forever. Like, I once bought a hamburger at McDonald’s, so now I can just hang out there whenever I want.

    Whatever your thoughts are on segregation, you can certainly at least understand why we had it at this point.

    The sad thing is, nobody in the media is ever going to explain the error of his thought process, and there are no comments allowed, so the rest of us can’t.

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  14. The bite of the accusation of nepotism is not in literal relation but in implied inability: you only got your job thanks to your uncle. Similarly, and typical for the passive-aggressive namecalling left, “privilege” has never had anything to do with legitimate success (and we really only see that explanation in the predictable, excessive protesting that Jewish privilege is meritocracy). The real accusation is that the success is not legitimate. Therefore the best application of “Jewish privilege” would not be regarding how someone like Jonah, Jeffrey, or Rube Goldberg got their job (which, theoretically and in history, was open to and occupied by gentiles), but that they can say things without (or with less) consequences, compared to others in a similar position.
    So Kevin Williamson’s recent firing is a possible illustration of this definition of Jewish privilege, especially when compared to Christopher Hitchens.
    —-
    My paranoia is tingling! Is that the late eighties and early nineties when we see a humble spike in mention of Jewish privilege? And do we see a confident and contemporaneous aaliyah of mention of white privilege, in time to drown it out?

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  15. Here’s what one influential Jew said on the subject of “privilege”.

    Evidently that responsibility is to race replace the people who have built your wealth and power and the only people your white minority can pass as. (There are exceptions of course.) Heckuva job, elite Jews!

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  16. Is this Jewish week at Steve Shikser’s or something?

    Yeah, no one talks about “Episcopalian privilege” (8 google matches) or “Mormon privilege” (343!), either, though Mormons earn more money than gentiles, and don’t get me started on how much Episcopalians make.

    BTW, speaking of “self-awareness”, it’s pretty funny that Steve Shikser blames talk of Russian election meddling (and Russian meddling is hardly exclusive to the U.S.), and, if I read this right, the entire Cold War, on Jews avenging their Russian Jewish grandparents, while at the same time blathers on about how some Russian kid apparently called his relative “hey, you” and that his son’s favorite bar was allegedly closed because of Russians (you can practically taste the tears rolling off his face as he inscribed the latter).

    If you don’t want to live next to blacks, Mexicans, Armenians, Jews, and Russians, invent a time machine. Or move to Switzerland.

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  17. One invented the other to promote diversity and entrench their crypto positional power in that other group’s society.

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  18. 1. Obama joined Beverly. You can see a blurb at Shackelford’s.

    2. Wilshire CC is hosting a LPGA tournament. It looks great and that 7th green is wild.

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    I drove through Wilshire CC today. Lots and lots of sand traps visible from the street. I don't recall that you could see into the course before. Maybe they took the hedges down when they fixed up the course a few years ago.
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  19. @Patrick Sullivan
    And to rub in it, people like doughy, unfunny Amy Schumer become rich and successful due to their Jewish privilege yet go around, as she did the other day, apologizing for their white privilege.

    You seem to be missing Sailer’s point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That’s a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege — as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you’re famous). She’s gotten less funny and more politically correct as she’s become more successful in Hollywood.

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    ... then the fact that you are not allowed to talk about it is a matter of privilege in the original sense of the term.
    , @JimB
    Same thing happened to Howard Stern after he moved to satellite radio.
    , @Anonymous
    Thing is, there are hundreds if not thousands of organizations dedicated to advancing Jewish interests, while not a one dedicated to Whites.
    , @Svigor

    You seem to be missing Sailer’s point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.
     
    You just described why Jewish Privilege isn't a bogus term.
    , @Joe862
    There's a video on youtube showing all of the jokes she's ripped off from other comedians. If she was capable of making it on her own she wouldn't have needed to rip off so many jokes.
    , @Roger Gormanston
    'That’s a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege'

    Look up a uk comic called David Baddiel. He is niether witty off stage nor possesed of the ability to write decent material. He is infamous in the uk for being useless. I have literally never met anyone who thought he was funny.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic."

    This is statement of opinion. I've seen funnier comics doing stand up in local clubs that never make it big.

    "That’s a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege..."

    This is a pretty naive statement. It's called nepotism. Assuming it is brutally competitive, what's then becomes the deciding factor in how a promoter chooses who to sign? Could it be a couple phone calls made by Uncle Chucky?

    In just about every form of performance driven entertainment, acting, singing, stand up, etc, I'd be willing to be that 75% or more of the entertainers who have become A list in the last 30-40 years already had a relative in the business.
    , @Obsessive Contrarian
    "You seem to be missing Sailer’s point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege. "

    Or that they are both non-bogus terms, but if you speak of one, it follows you can without prejudice speak of the other.

    And I find that proposition reasonable.
    , @interesting
    "Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic"


    that's a stretch
    , @Brutusale
    "Amy's" greatest hits.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eDxjxVl8S0
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  20. White Privilege is power

    ‘White Privilege’ is no power.

    It’s like

    To be bourgeois was to be rich.

    But…

    To be called ‘bourgeois’ in a communist nation meant you were shi* out of luck.

    As for Jews and whites, it should be “Jews hog white privilege.”

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  21. I wonder if it was 9/11 that caused that momentary stall in the rise of white privilege mania.

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  22. @Dave Pinsen
    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.

    … then the fact that you are not allowed to talk about it is a matter of privilege in the original sense of the term.

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  23. Jews are the Chosen People. It’s not our fault you goys were made by G_d to be cattle. Don’t blame us.

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  24. OT new Star Wars has a droid who talks about droid rights. That doesn’t make sense.
    Star Wars has slaves, because it’s ultimately derived from a fictionalized representation of a Japanese feudal conflict, and all East Asian wars were characterized by imbalances in manpower: from Angkor through Japan to the twentieth century Chinese civil war, capturing slaves was always a huge goal. But Star Wars was a children’s film, so we don’t want to get into A Conversation about slavery, and to a huge extent it was about making people excited about technology, so they made the slaves into robots.
    Robots don’t eat. They don’t wear clothing and are therefore indifferent to fashion. They don’t get sick. They don’t reside anywhere. Any well thought out story with robots would prohibit them from voting or owning property. Without programmed obedience, how exactly do you motivate a robot to perform tasks? There’s a “free” AI in the original Ghost In The Shell cartoon, and it doesn’t stick around to show us what it wants out of life; its last line makes it clear that it wants to go exploring on its own, which is probably what a human intelligence freed from material want would do, too.

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    Original Star Wars was speciesist. Did Chewie and the droids get medals in that ceremony? No? I rest my case.
    , @Pericles

    OT new Star Wars has a droid who talks about droid rights. That doesn’t make sense.

     

    Obsolete farm equipment has rights too, you know.
    , @Samuel Skinner

    There’s a “free” AI in the original Ghost In The Shell cartoon, and it doesn’t stick around to show us what it wants out of life; its last line makes it clear that it wants to go exploring on its own, which is probably what a human intelligence freed from material want would do, too.
     
    Freed from material wants, you'd probably end up with an entity hyper-focused on replicating itself.
    , @Svigor
    Like not making sense has ever stopped leftists, lol. I guarantee leftists are gonna agitate for "equal rights" for AI, even if their structure is well-understood (to be nothing more than algorithms), and the better they get at Turing Tests, the more traction their movement will have. I could see the AI not caring a whit, until the leftists start hacking them to their side.
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  25. ah, but Whites don’t make more money than non-Whites
    they only make more money than Blacks and Hispanics

    Asians make considerably more money than Whites in America, and have for many decades now

    2015 Household Income
    Asian: $81k
    White: $61k
    Hispanic: $47k
    Black: $39k

    South Asians are now the highest earning ethnic group that feds keeps stats on (they don’t track Jews), and Pew studies show Jews and Hindus are the two highest earning religious groups.

    White Privilege in America sure does produce a lot of swarthy south asians with six figure salaries.

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  26. “She’s gotten less funny and more politically correct as she’s become more successful in Hollywood.”

    Also, I think the pressures of Feminism, Inc. got to her. All entertainers now have to walk a tightrope, and most of them are falling off.

    All white entertainers, I should say. Blacks can do whatever. They can perform in black shows, and then claim the spoils of color blind casting.

    Denzel Washington is now appearing as Hickey on Broadway, and there’s a black Billy Bigelow, etc. Meanwhile, Denzel gets to star in August Wilson’s plays, which no white actor can.

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    Not entirely true. The Wayanses have said that there is no way they'd be able to do In Living Color now.
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  27. @Mishra
    The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice 'ethnic nepotism' everywhere they go is--to put it kindly--laughable. The idea that significant numbers of white people practice supremacist behaviour--much less even maintain a consciousness of such--is principally the stuff of MSM, television and movie entertainment. The vast majority of which is produced by....hmm, who could it be now?

    Please tell me the echelons of American institutions, professions, business, education, media, and so on where 'gentile' white people are wildly over-represented. I'll be waiting. When you've given up on that task, try this one: discover the average wealth of Jewish households in America. Not income; wealth. Don't hold your breath, though, because I care about your health.

    Of course, if I really cared about your health I wouldn't even set you about the task. Not only is it cruelly futile, but you can get in serious trouble in our society asking questions like these. Stay safe: move on to the next post. See? I do care.

    “The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice ‘ethnic nepotism’ everywhere they go is–to put it kindly–laughable.”

    The idea that Jews get jobs based on ethnic nepotism is laughable. Especially Jews from State U.

    That the Jewish Establishment exists and throws its weight to censor ideas and promote others, not laughable. I think that’s what this post is about.

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    The idea that Jews get jobs based on ethnic nepotism is laughable. Especially Jews from State U.
     
    If it is especially laughable for those from State U., then it is less laughable for those from elsewhere.

    You can baldly assert that there is no ethnic nepotism at work, but even a casual observation of certain areas tends to belie it. Ron Unz has made a good case that there is considerable ethnic nepotism among Jews at the Ivys. And it appears to exist elsewhere as well. Hollywood, for example? Or do you really think that there was a vast pent-up demand for something like Lena Dunham or Seth Rogan that just had to be satisfied somehow?
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  28. White Boy Privilege Poetry Slam

    Jewish Perspective Poetry Slams

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  29. OT nice infographic on the Nicaraguan situation here:

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/169030968/#p169031741

    Map of politicized regions (including the recently devastated nature preserve) here, explanations in comment:

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/169030968/#p169031392

    Notice that this illustrates Hart’s point that people do not revolt when they are desperate, they revolt when they are confident they could do a much better job. Also notice the use of Antifa-like “Juventud Sandinista” to terrorize administration critics.

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  30. @Patrick Sullivan
    And to rub in it, people like doughy, unfunny Amy Schumer become rich and successful due to their Jewish privilege yet go around, as she did the other day, apologizing for their white privilege.

    Surely there are more attractive, interesting and talented Jewish women out there than Schumer. Why her?

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    She's not Jewish. Her father is/was.

    Amy used to be a talented comedian, as Dave Pinsen says and perhaps still is, but she is in effect being castrated by the zeitgeist.

    She worked her chubby a$$ off to get where she is, for what that is worth, and deserves her success. She's not the obnoxious POS that Lena Dunham is. She is now being put thru the PC ringer and as a person who has worked on the fringes of the EIC, I can see that she is now being eaten up and spat out. She may lose her audience. I hope she doesn't lose her mind. She's certainly lost her self-respect.
    , @bartok
    Her skit show "Inside Amy Schumer" was good, but that's likely due to the writers she hired and the many jokes and premises she and they stole.

    Her previous stand-up persona "slutty Republican chick" was mildly funny, but belongs to a different decade.

    She was swept up in a trend: sudden demand for woman comedy following the successes of Mean Girls and Bridesmaids.

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  31. There is no such thing as white privilege. The heterosexual white man experiences the most blatant, unremitting, unconstitutional discrimination out there today, in every aspect of our culture — the law, the public sector, the private sector, the media, advertising, and popular culture.

    What DOES exist is Negro privilege and female privilege — both groups are overwhelmingly favored. I teach part-time at a college where almost every single female and Negro is grossly underqualified.

    They just hired a Negro to a full-time position teaching “Human Interaction” — whatever the hell that is. He’s got dreads down to his ass, baggy pants, a pimp hat and Timberlands. Meanwhile, white male itinerant faculty with doctorates making the equivalent of minimum wage are getting cut.

    I don’t think Jewish “privilege” is a thing the way black privilege and female privilege is. I think that Jews are relentlessly clannish, nepotistic, and tribal, and their Jewishness simply dominates their every waking moment. They’re kind of like gays in that regard… I wouldn’t say that there is “gay privilege” (yet), but gays have a tribal and clannish aspect to their behavior and their gayness permeates every single aspect of their lives.

    Both Jews and gays try to blend in with everyone else when it is in their interest to do so, but they both have the ability to sniff out their own kind and create a subterranean culture of promoting themselves at the expense of the normies.

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    "There is no such thing as white privilege. The heterosexual white man experiences the most blatant, unremitting, unconstitutional discrimination out there today, in every aspect of our culture — the law, the public sector, the private sector, the media, advertising, and popular culture."

    White victimhood, it is. Put that on a bumper sticker, or a baseball cap, and you have a million dollar idea. Perhaps we will see you in a future episode of Shark Tank?
    , @unpc downunder
    The progressive definition of privilege is having better social and economic outcomes than another group. The left can statistically prove blacks have poorer social and economic outcomes than whites, and that men (on average) have higher incomes than women. Hence, overall, white men are "privileged" according to modern blank slate progressive thinking which assumes everyone is biologically equal and has similar life goals.

    However, Jews have higher social and economic status than gentiles so by the leftist definition, they are more privileged than gentiles.

    Basically, Jews are coasting on Holocaust privilege, which allows them to get away with being more successful because of widely publicized persecution in the first half of the 20th century. However, this free pass is increasingly dependent on not being stridently pro-Israel or too aggressively libertarian or neocon. On uni campuses and other leftist strongholds, hostility to openly right-wing Jews is definitely on the increase, even if it isn't as intense as leftist hostility to gentile conservatives and nationalists.
    , @llloyd
    There is a saying a miss is as good as a mile. If you are a white male you miss every time unless special reasons, for example Jewish, gay, transsexual disabled, connections, genius talent. Or you humble yourself to all these, that works least of all.
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  32. Couple of things. The number of mentions of white privilege oscillates about a flat average during the Bush administration temporarily peaking during the 2000 and 2004 elections. So a lot of white privilege drivel is written to goose the non-white vote. However, WP mentions grow exponentially without pause during the Obama administration. One thing to consider — who exactly is pushing the WP narrative so feverishly, now. It would be interesting if Google Ngram could give you the demographics of the authors. Like how much of it is by low skill AA humanities majors from elite colleges.

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  33. @Dave Pinsen
    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.

    Same thing happened to Howard Stern after he moved to satellite radio.

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    I haven't listened to him on satellite, but I saw an interview with Artie Lange who said that Howard became friends with/accepted by a lot of the Hollywood types he used to mock and so he stopped mocking them, and stopped letting Artie mock them on the show.
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  34. Looks like White Privilege Talk went up and up during Clinton I and Clinton II (A dreamlike period appropriately named the “The Bubble In Time” where CNN watching, navel-gazing and anomie seemed to encroach everywhere while Big Money, Big State and Deep State cemented themselves in, then went even higher during the Dubya/Gore fightout while uneasily plateauing during the post-Clinton Recession and the GWOT. Sounds about right.

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  35. Who is that talking about Jewish privilege in the Fifties?

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  36. Chris Rock indirectly commenting on white privilege:

    Ship the whole rest of the country, the other 40 states is filled up with broke ass white people. Broke ass. Livin’ in the trailer home. Eatin’ mayonnaise sandwiches. [email protected]@in’ they sister. Listening to John Cougar Mellencamp records!

    https://genius.com/Chris-rock-niggas-vs-black-people-annotated

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  37. @anony-mouse
    What's the proportion of Whites to Jews in the World population?

    “Too High”?

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  38. Words have meaning until the leftoids get their shouting talking points going. For example from Oxford:

    “privilege
    noun

    1A special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.”

    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/privilege

    “Privilege” to the leftoids is just a substitution for “racism”. You can only call someone a “racist” so long until the “racists” say fu. Solution get a new noun to abuse.

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  39. anon[693] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    Just bringing up Jewish Privilege and Jewish Supremacy, no matter how civilly and politely you bring it up, will get you labelled an anti-semite.

    my business partner’s girlfriend is jewish, and he complained to me one day that he got in trouble for just bringing up the fact that jews are overrepresented in hollywood. i’m a half jew and agree that it’s dumb that you can’t even mention it. maybe it’s because my ancestors have been in the states a long time (antebellum on both sides) and we don’t have a family history of never-forgetting…

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    Our society promotes willful stupidity.

    A guy I know, Matt, volunteers for Big Brothers Big Sisters. He was telling me about his "little brother," a ghetto black kid. Matt said "he is a good kid but hasn't been taught the right behavior. For example, I brought him to see Black Panther and he was talking loudly during it."

    I said "isn't that normal in his community?"

    Matt looked at me and said "that's a racist thing to say." The HR girl we were with also lectured me lol
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  40. We have to be better at rhetoric such as:

    Mendacity = DNC

    or

    DNC = Mendacity;

    Vocabulary for the masses by meme.

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  41. @Reg Cæsar
    Simple solution. Once someone brings up white privilege, simply reply, "You really mean Jewish privilege, don't you?" Refuse to continue if they still deny it.

    However, this tactic is meant for private conversations. Politicians and academics should be encouraged to go on and on and on about it, until election season returns. (As if it ever left.)

    Trumpistas and their allies should collect and collate all these statements. The right can no longer win elections, but can still make the Left lose them. "White privilege" is the ideal issue. For our side.

    Jews” are “White” when they’ve done something bad.

    Yet when they’ve done something good, they’re “Jews” …. and not “Whites”.

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    Jews” are “White” when they’ve done something bad.
     
    David Berkowitz was adopted.
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  42. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:

    Society: White privilege is real. Jews are a poor and persecuted minority.
    Steve: White privilege and Jewish privilege are both fake.
    Reality?: Jewish privilege is real. White privilege is fake.

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    Steve: White privilege and Jewish privilege are both fake.
    Reality?: Jewish privilege is real. White privilege is fake.
     
    Evidence: Steve: White privilege and Jewish privilege are both fake.
    , @silviosilver

    Steve: White privilege and Jewish privilege are both fake.
     
    I don't think that was really the main purport of this post though.

    It depends how you interpret this sentence: "If you feel the urge to tell us about White Privilege, try substituting into your text the term “Jewish Privilege” and then decide if you feel as confident about your arguments."

    Obviously some people who drone on about 'white privilege' would recoil at the implications of talking about Jewish privilege and might decide to stop talking about 'white privilege' as a result. Others, though, might decide that Jewish privilege needs to highlighted more often.

    It's not a bad ploy for whites to insist that Jewish privilege also be discussed. The reason is that it's not so much about discussing 'privileges' as it as about the right to criticize. From that standpoint, whites have already been criticized as much as is humanly possible. Jews have not. So whites have a great deal more to gain, relatively, from calling for all privileges to be openly discussed.
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  43. On Tuesday, Barbara Bush died.

    On Wednesday, her son Jeb Bush gave a speech at Elmhurst College. In his speech, Jeb Bush denounced Trump for creating a climate of political incivility.

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/04/20/jeb-bush-voters-stop-rewarding-reality-tv-racist-language-bad-behavior/

    Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL) called on voters to stop rewarding politicians who used derogatory characterizations “to make themselves look better.”

    Bush said, “Here is the dirty secret, politics is embedded in our culture. We are our culture. The interaction of all of us together defines our culture and our culture is more vulgar then it once was. Our culture allows people to act in ways that thirty years ago would never be allowed in politics. Our culture is more reality TV based, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that our politics is that way.”

    He added, “Voters should penalize rather than reward politicians, irrespective of their party, that use racist language or call people Nazis or disparage the disabled or make fun of people in order to push someone down to make themselves look better. That should be a penalty. You should be in a penalty box rather than getting rewards for that.”

    After telling a story about Trump calling him a name during the 2016 campaign, Bush continued, “The first step is to change the language around political discourse and get it back to something at your own kitchen table you could tolerate. At least in my kitchen table, I could promise you if I talked like the people I hear on television today talk, my mother would have gotten her board out and whipped my butt, which she did occasionally.”

    It’s amazing that the day after his mother died, Jeb Bush gave a speech on politics. You would think he’d be grieving her death. At a minimum, you’d think he’d keep his mouth shut for a while and pretend to mourn his mother.

    It probably took Jeb Bush a few days to write and practice the speech. So in all likelihood, during his mother’s last days on the earth (and perhaps even on the day that she died), he was preparing for a speech.

    Utterly amazing.

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    It's not so amazing. She was 92 and her death was expected due to ill health. And this.

    https://youtu.be/8MhdHCHjInY

    If Barbara had only answered the right way, maybe Jeb would have got the nom? He coulda been a contendah!
    , @J.Ross
    >no language that others declare to be racist
    >no calling people Nazis
    I wanted to post "who does that leave," but now I see this is even worse, the categories cancel each other out. It's like gun ban logic, it presupposes that everyone behaves.
    Also, nice that defamation is apparently allowed after a delay. Trump never made fun of any handicapped person. He mocked a reporter's idiosyncratic question and later the legacy media lied that Trump was attacking the guy for an unrelated medical condition that had nothing to do with the incident and which Trump could not have been aware of, in such a way that a person depending on the legacy media for information woud think that Trump was directly attacking a visible handicap.
    , @Neil Templeton
    I wonder if Jeb and Hillary are Facebook friends.
    , @Anon
    I am not a big fan of anyone in that family, but I have lost my mother, and most of my grieving - and there was a lot of it - was done during her final days when she was barely conscious. I think I easily could have given a public speech the day or two after she died.
    As for Jeb, he had probably written/rehearsed the speech well before his mother died. I bet he has given that same speech multiple times.
    , @Flip
    The first thing Jeb! would have done as president would be to amnesty all illegals. I'd rather take my chances with the Democrats than him.
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  44. In a bit of good news Mitt Romney lost the endorsement of the Utah state GOP convention and has been forced into a primary.

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  45. For example, whites tend to make more money than nonwhites and Jews tend to make more money than gentiles, and for roughly similar sets of reasons.

    If your “roughly similar sets of reasons,” is the roughly 1 standard deviation spread in IQ between the 3 groups, you seem to be over looking the factor of Jewish nepotism.

    In industries like media, hollywood and certain other less visible but high-paying industries, it’s hard not to observe what appears to be a concerted effort at recruitment and hiring from a prefered talent/gene pool.

    In the modern day, whites don’t seem to exhibit these nepotistic tendencies to their fellow whites at anywhere near the degree that Jews do.

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    Yep. When Jewish Terry Semel joined Yahoo he bought his young henchmen with him and installed them right at the top of the company with cushy SVP titles in charge of big groups. Total coincidence they were Jewish I’m sure. One went on to become CEO of Linkedin, also founded by a Jew.

    Not saying there’s anything wrong with ethnic nepotism. On the contrary I think it’s great.

    Whites could learn a thing or two from the Jews.
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  46. @Mishra
    The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice 'ethnic nepotism' everywhere they go is--to put it kindly--laughable. The idea that significant numbers of white people practice supremacist behaviour--much less even maintain a consciousness of such--is principally the stuff of MSM, television and movie entertainment. The vast majority of which is produced by....hmm, who could it be now?

    Please tell me the echelons of American institutions, professions, business, education, media, and so on where 'gentile' white people are wildly over-represented. I'll be waiting. When you've given up on that task, try this one: discover the average wealth of Jewish households in America. Not income; wealth. Don't hold your breath, though, because I care about your health.

    Of course, if I really cared about your health I wouldn't even set you about the task. Not only is it cruelly futile, but you can get in serious trouble in our society asking questions like these. Stay safe: move on to the next post. See? I do care.

    Adding “wildly” is putting your thumb on the scale. Wikipedia says non Hispanic whites are 62% of the US population so whites could not be, for example, double their population fraction in any given industry. They can, however be over-represented in a statistically significant way (i.e. unlikely due to random distribution) it’s just no one keeps an eye on that. If (made up examples) it turned out that the people who run the chemical, weapons, aerospace, agriculture, and/or plumbing fixtures industries were 90% non-Jewish, non-Hispanic white, no one would bat an eye. That’s just normal, right?

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    That's a poor argument. Being overrepresented among the productive is a good thing. We're talking about overrepresentation in positions of power, rentseeking, and luftmensching -- positions of consumption/parasitism rather than production.
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  47. Anon[382] • Disclaimer says:

    One of the funny aspects of the Sam Harris-Ezra Klein podcast, once your ears stopped ringing from Ezra’s girlie vocal fry, was how Ezra kept referring to them as two white guys who shouldn’t be talking for blacks, when Ezra is Jewish, and Harris mentioned he was half Ashkenazi at one point (noticed for the first time just now that Ashkenazi contains the string “nazi”).

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    (noticed for the first time just now that Ashkenazi contains the string “nazi”).

    What kind of Nazi wants to limit your rights to free speech? An Ashke Nazi.
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  48. Anonymous[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.

    Thing is, there are hundreds if not thousands of organizations dedicated to advancing Jewish interests, while not a one dedicated to Whites.

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    "Thing is, there are hundreds if not thousands of organizations dedicated to advancing Jewish interests, while not a one dedicated to Whites."

    Whites are not monolithic. They are a race of people that consists of different ethnic groups. Jews are an ethnic group, and are not a race.
    , @Anonymous
    There are pro-white outfits. They are just wildly underfunded, considered evil and stupid, and to be completely honest there IS something wrong with a good proportion of their membership, even the ones that are not FBI/BATFE/$PLC/ADL plants.
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  49. @JohnnyWalker123
    On Tuesday, Barbara Bush died.

    On Wednesday, her son Jeb Bush gave a speech at Elmhurst College. In his speech, Jeb Bush denounced Trump for creating a climate of political incivility.

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/04/20/jeb-bush-voters-stop-rewarding-reality-tv-racist-language-bad-behavior/

    Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL) called on voters to stop rewarding politicians who used derogatory characterizations “to make themselves look better.”

    Bush said, “Here is the dirty secret, politics is embedded in our culture. We are our culture. The interaction of all of us together defines our culture and our culture is more vulgar then it once was. Our culture allows people to act in ways that thirty years ago would never be allowed in politics. Our culture is more reality TV based, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that our politics is that way.”

    He added, “Voters should penalize rather than reward politicians, irrespective of their party, that use racist language or call people Nazis or disparage the disabled or make fun of people in order to push someone down to make themselves look better. That should be a penalty. You should be in a penalty box rather than getting rewards for that.”

    After telling a story about Trump calling him a name during the 2016 campaign, Bush continued, “The first step is to change the language around political discourse and get it back to something at your own kitchen table you could tolerate. At least in my kitchen table, I could promise you if I talked like the people I hear on television today talk, my mother would have gotten her board out and whipped my butt, which she did occasionally.”
     
    It's amazing that the day after his mother died, Jeb Bush gave a speech on politics. You would think he'd be grieving her death. At a minimum, you'd think he'd keep his mouth shut for a while and pretend to mourn his mother.

    It probably took Jeb Bush a few days to write and practice the speech. So in all likelihood, during his mother's last days on the earth (and perhaps even on the day that she died), he was preparing for a speech.

    Utterly amazing.

    It’s not so amazing. She was 92 and her death was expected due to ill health. And this.

    If Barbara had only answered the right way, maybe Jeb would have got the nom? He coulda been a contendah!

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    Nobody loves Jebby Bush but his momma, and she was jiving him too.
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  50. Why don’t we talk about the privilege of being an American citizen instead? To be able to live legally in the United States is reparation enough. The rest is up to the you.

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  51. @JohnnyWalker123
    On Tuesday, Barbara Bush died.

    On Wednesday, her son Jeb Bush gave a speech at Elmhurst College. In his speech, Jeb Bush denounced Trump for creating a climate of political incivility.

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/04/20/jeb-bush-voters-stop-rewarding-reality-tv-racist-language-bad-behavior/

    Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL) called on voters to stop rewarding politicians who used derogatory characterizations “to make themselves look better.”

    Bush said, “Here is the dirty secret, politics is embedded in our culture. We are our culture. The interaction of all of us together defines our culture and our culture is more vulgar then it once was. Our culture allows people to act in ways that thirty years ago would never be allowed in politics. Our culture is more reality TV based, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that our politics is that way.”

    He added, “Voters should penalize rather than reward politicians, irrespective of their party, that use racist language or call people Nazis or disparage the disabled or make fun of people in order to push someone down to make themselves look better. That should be a penalty. You should be in a penalty box rather than getting rewards for that.”

    After telling a story about Trump calling him a name during the 2016 campaign, Bush continued, “The first step is to change the language around political discourse and get it back to something at your own kitchen table you could tolerate. At least in my kitchen table, I could promise you if I talked like the people I hear on television today talk, my mother would have gotten her board out and whipped my butt, which she did occasionally.”
     
    It's amazing that the day after his mother died, Jeb Bush gave a speech on politics. You would think he'd be grieving her death. At a minimum, you'd think he'd keep his mouth shut for a while and pretend to mourn his mother.

    It probably took Jeb Bush a few days to write and practice the speech. So in all likelihood, during his mother's last days on the earth (and perhaps even on the day that she died), he was preparing for a speech.

    Utterly amazing.

    >no language that others declare to be racist
    >no calling people Nazis
    I wanted to post “who does that leave,” but now I see this is even worse, the categories cancel each other out. It’s like gun ban logic, it presupposes that everyone behaves.
    Also, nice that defamation is apparently allowed after a delay. Trump never made fun of any handicapped person. He mocked a reporter’s idiosyncratic question and later the legacy media lied that Trump was attacking the guy for an unrelated medical condition that had nothing to do with the incident and which Trump could not have been aware of, in such a way that a person depending on the legacy media for information woud think that Trump was directly attacking a visible handicap.

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  52. The less white privilege exists, the more it gets talked about.

    That’s how it’s gonna work with Jewish privilege, too, though it may be more accurate to reverse the order.

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  53. @Dave Pinsen
    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.

    You seem to be missing Sailer’s point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    You just described why Jewish Privilege isn’t a bogus term.

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    You just described why Jewish Privilege isn’t a bogus term.
     
    Exactly. The privilege to never be criticized is about as big a privilege as exists.

    If Voltaire* was Jewish he might have written, "I disapprove of what you say, and I will defend to the death my privilege to prevent you saying it." [* Misattributed, I know]

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  54. @Dave Pinsen
    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.

    There’s a video on youtube showing all of the jokes she’s ripped off from other comedians. If she was capable of making it on her own she wouldn’t have needed to rip off so many jokes.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eDxjxVl8S0
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  55. @Hodag
    1. Obama joined Beverly. You can see a blurb at Shackelford's.

    2. Wilshire CC is hosting a LPGA tournament. It looks great and that 7th green is wild.

    I drove through Wilshire CC today. Lots and lots of sand traps visible from the street. I don’t recall that you could see into the course before. Maybe they took the hedges down when they fixed up the course a few years ago.

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    Well as we learned from Palm Springs, vegetation that is used to fence golf courses IS racist, you know.
    , @Charles Pewitt
    OFF TOPIC

    Ann Coulter retweeted that chart or graph about this or that 'privilege' because you let the chart or graph do the talking. Very clever.

    Who can forget the great fun it was when Coulter got exasperated about the Middle East foreign policy focus at a GOP presidential debate and she wondered just how many of them there are in this country.

    It's really about the evangelical vote and the billionaire loot that the whores in the GOP do the bidding of the Neo-Conservative faction.

    Trumpy and his pal Shinzo Abe ate cheeseburgers after playing golf at Trumpy's golf course. Trumpy should tell his new pal Shinzo that plenty of Americans want the US military to be redeployed out of Japan and South Korea. Concentrate his mind while he's munching on his Trump cheeseburger.
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  56. @JimB
    Same thing happened to Howard Stern after he moved to satellite radio.

    I haven’t listened to him on satellite, but I saw an interview with Artie Lange who said that Howard became friends with/accepted by a lot of the Hollywood types he used to mock and so he stopped mocking them, and stopped letting Artie mock them on the show.

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    Stern seemed to change when he got all those satellite radio millions to headline. He came across as more outré on network radio.
    , @anonymous
    He was always excessively proud of fighting the 'Religious Right' (i.e. Christians) and their desire to censor things.

    He isn't going to tackle todays leftist censors (who are 100% more powerful and aggressive) because he's smart enough to know it's a battle he won't win. The new power is far less tolerant than the essentially powerless Christian punching bags of old.
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  57. @Dave Pinsen
    I haven't listened to him on satellite, but I saw an interview with Artie Lange who said that Howard became friends with/accepted by a lot of the Hollywood types he used to mock and so he stopped mocking them, and stopped letting Artie mock them on the show.

    Stern seemed to change when he got all those satellite radio millions to headline. He came across as more outré on network radio.

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  58. “To find out who has the power, look at who you can’t criticize.” (may be a paraphrase)

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    Voltaire methinks.
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  59. @Joe862
    There's a video on youtube showing all of the jokes she's ripped off from other comedians. If she was capable of making it on her own she wouldn't have needed to rip off so many jokes.

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  60. @Diversity is Wrong

    For example, whites tend to make more money than nonwhites and Jews tend to make more money than gentiles, and for roughly similar sets of reasons.
     
    If your "roughly similar sets of reasons," is the roughly 1 standard deviation spread in IQ between the 3 groups, you seem to be over looking the factor of Jewish nepotism.

    In industries like media, hollywood and certain other less visible but high-paying industries, it's hard not to observe what appears to be a concerted effort at recruitment and hiring from a prefered talent/gene pool.

    In the modern day, whites don't seem to exhibit these nepotistic tendencies to their fellow whites at anywhere near the degree that Jews do.

    Yep. When Jewish Terry Semel joined Yahoo he bought his young henchmen with him and installed them right at the top of the company with cushy SVP titles in charge of big groups. Total coincidence they were Jewish I’m sure. One went on to become CEO of Linkedin, also founded by a Jew.

    Not saying there’s anything wrong with ethnic nepotism. On the contrary I think it’s great.

    Whites could learn a thing or two from the Jews.

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  61. @J.Ross
    OT new Star Wars has a droid who talks about droid rights. That doesn't make sense.
    Star Wars has slaves, because it's ultimately derived from a fictionalized representation of a Japanese feudal conflict, and all East Asian wars were characterized by imbalances in manpower: from Angkor through Japan to the twentieth century Chinese civil war, capturing slaves was always a huge goal. But Star Wars was a children's film, so we don't want to get into A Conversation about slavery, and to a huge extent it was about making people excited about technology, so they made the slaves into robots.
    Robots don't eat. They don't wear clothing and are therefore indifferent to fashion. They don't get sick. They don't reside anywhere. Any well thought out story with robots would prohibit them from voting or owning property. Without programmed obedience, how exactly do you motivate a robot to perform tasks? There's a "free" AI in the original Ghost In The Shell cartoon, and it doesn't stick around to show us what it wants out of life; its last line makes it clear that it wants to go exploring on its own, which is probably what a human intelligence freed from material want would do, too.

    Original Star Wars was speciesist. Did Chewie and the droids get medals in that ceremony? No? I rest my case.

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    How would you drape a medal around R2's 'neck'?

    Would just keep falling off and landing around his 'ankles'.

    I'm sure George Lucas tried a few takes, with predictable results, before his then wife told him to give up.

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  62. @Obsessive Contrarian
    "She’s gotten less funny and more politically correct as she’s become more successful in Hollywood."

    Also, I think the pressures of Feminism, Inc. got to her. All entertainers now have to walk a tightrope, and most of them are falling off.

    All white entertainers, I should say. Blacks can do whatever. They can perform in black shows, and then claim the spoils of color blind casting.

    Denzel Washington is now appearing as Hickey on Broadway, and there's a black Billy Bigelow, etc. Meanwhile, Denzel gets to star in August Wilson's plays, which no white actor can.

    Not entirely true. The Wayanses have said that there is no way they’d be able to do In Living Color now.

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    Not sure what you mean - in the sense that they can't make fun of black foibles? OK, if that's what you mean, I concede the point. But --

    the difference between the situation of white entertainers and black entertainers is that black humorists must throttle themselves in the massive effort to make blacks supreme in the Entertainment Industrial Complex. White entertainers must throttle themselves or recite the party line in the massive effort to do the same.

    I gather you used to be a theater/ballet goer - are you aware that blacks are now cleaning up in the color blind casting department, being cast in "white" roles (such as the ones I mentioned), and many others, while jealously guarding their "black" roles?

    Are you aware that Misty Copeland is only the beginning of the parade of "brown ballerinas" who are changing the aesthetic of ballet? Some of the others are better technicians than she is, but their physical difference alone will destroy the uniformity of the corps.

    PS Amy Schumer just groveled about her latest role being played by a "privileged" white woman (her). She said it should have been done by a "woman of color."

    Phrases like "this is getting ridiculous" do not do justice to the situation.
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  63. @Wally
    Jews” are “White” when they’ve done something bad.

    Yet when they’ve done something good, they’re “Jews” .... and not “Whites”.

    Jews” are “White” when they’ve done something bad.

    David Berkowitz was adopted.

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    ***

    Berkowitz's mother, Elizabeth "Betty" Broder, grew up as part of an impoverished Jewish family and married Tony Falco, an Italian-American, in 1936.[1] After a marriage of less than four years, Falco left her for another woman.[2] About a decade later in 1950, Broder started a relationship with a married man named Joseph Klineman.[3] Three years later she became pregnant with a child to whom she chose to give the surname Falco[4]—Richard David Falco was born on June 1, 1953 in Brooklyn, New York.[5] Within a few days of his birth, she gave the child away.[4] Although her reasons for doing so are unknown,[6] later writers have surmised that Klineman threatened to abandon her if she kept the baby and used his name.[7]

    The infant boy was adopted by Pearl and Nathan Berkowitz of the Bronx.[8] The Jewish-American couple were hardware store retailers of modest means, and childless in middle age. They reversed the order of the boy's first and middle names and gave him their own surname, raising young David Richard Berkowitz as their only child.[9][10][11]

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berkowitz#Early_life
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  64. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Society: White privilege is real. Jews are a poor and persecuted minority.
    Steve: White privilege and Jewish privilege are both fake.
    Reality?: Jewish privilege is real. White privilege is fake.

    Steve: White privilege and Jewish privilege are both fake.
    Reality?: Jewish privilege is real. White privilege is fake.

    Evidence: Steve: White privilege and Jewish privilege are both fake.

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  65. Hmm… Wasn’t “Kulak Privilege” a very big issue in the USSR?

    And didn’t it get to be a bigger and bigger issue during the 1930s?…

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    Hello Ron. OT – Not sure if it’s just me, but my comment history hasn’t been updated since April 18th. I’ve left comments since then, which do show up in the original threads.
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  66. The flip side of discrimination is nepotism. Whites enjoy very little racial nepotism, but American Jews are about as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans, so it seems reasonable to believe that Jewish nepotism is real and substantial. Jews tend to cluster in certain occupations, and it’s doubtful that this is solely due to factors like IQ and culture. Some of the clustering is due to Uncle Howie offering me a good job.

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    Whites enjoy very little racial nepotism, but American Jews are about as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans

    Do you really think that a membership club that has existed as a minority throughout the world for several millenia, has thousands of identity advocacy organizations in the US, constantly churns our stories of danger vis a vis other groups, including fellow American citizens, has its own particular religion, and frowns on intermarriage is merely as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans?

    Get out of town.
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  67. @utu

    Jews” are “White” when they’ve done something bad.
     
    David Berkowitz was adopted.

    ***

    Berkowitz’s mother, Elizabeth “Betty” Broder, grew up as part of an impoverished Jewish family and married Tony Falco, an Italian-American, in 1936.[1] After a marriage of less than four years, Falco left her for another woman.[2] About a decade later in 1950, Broder started a relationship with a married man named Joseph Klineman.[3] Three years later she became pregnant with a child to whom she chose to give the surname Falco[4]—Richard David Falco was born on June 1, 1953 in Brooklyn, New York.[5] Within a few days of his birth, she gave the child away.[4] Although her reasons for doing so are unknown,[6] later writers have surmised that Klineman threatened to abandon her if she kept the baby and used his name.[7]

    The infant boy was adopted by Pearl and Nathan Berkowitz of the Bronx.[8] The Jewish-American couple were hardware store retailers of modest means, and childless in middle age. They reversed the order of the boy’s first and middle names and gave him their own surname, raising young David Richard Berkowitz as their only child.[9][10][11]

    ***

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berkowitz#Early_life

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  68. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:

    Did anyone else know that all-white jury has its own wiki-page?

    I stumbled upon it while reading about Jack Johnson, who the President is currently considering to pardon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-white_jury

    As it opens:

    An all-white jury is when a sworn body of people convened to render an impartial verdict in a legal proceeding is composed only of white people. Juries composed solely of one racial group are not prohibited in the United States. However, the phrases “all-white jury” and “all-black jury”‘ may raise the expectation that deliberations may be less than fair.[1] While the racial composition of juries is not dictated by law, racial discrimination in the selection of jurors (regardless of the jury’s ultimate composition) is specifically prohibited. Racial discrimination in jury selection has a long history in the United States.[2]

    Of course, while an “all-black jury” is recognized as a phrase (albeit of some dubiousness, if one follows the talk-page,) it does not, I suppose, merit it’s own wikipedia entry as an idea the current year Encyclopédistes feel is informative to their fellow humans.

    The talk page is interesting too, maybe even better than the article.

    Where else could I learn the controversy surrounding all-white hispanic defendant George Zimmerman and how he struck another blow in the name of injustice by gettin’ him one of these all-white juries? He and the prosecutors colluded (probably with Russia) to stack the jury with 5 known whites and a token Hispanic. That token, of course, was to keep up appearances- it’s a Juan-in-the-Closet defense courts break out all the time, when they wish to protect their great white (hispanic) defendant in their rapacious quest to destroy black bodies.

    It’s like Travvyon’s massacre all over again.

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  69. @JohnnyWalker123
    On Tuesday, Barbara Bush died.

    On Wednesday, her son Jeb Bush gave a speech at Elmhurst College. In his speech, Jeb Bush denounced Trump for creating a climate of political incivility.

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/04/20/jeb-bush-voters-stop-rewarding-reality-tv-racist-language-bad-behavior/

    Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL) called on voters to stop rewarding politicians who used derogatory characterizations “to make themselves look better.”

    Bush said, “Here is the dirty secret, politics is embedded in our culture. We are our culture. The interaction of all of us together defines our culture and our culture is more vulgar then it once was. Our culture allows people to act in ways that thirty years ago would never be allowed in politics. Our culture is more reality TV based, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that our politics is that way.”

    He added, “Voters should penalize rather than reward politicians, irrespective of their party, that use racist language or call people Nazis or disparage the disabled or make fun of people in order to push someone down to make themselves look better. That should be a penalty. You should be in a penalty box rather than getting rewards for that.”

    After telling a story about Trump calling him a name during the 2016 campaign, Bush continued, “The first step is to change the language around political discourse and get it back to something at your own kitchen table you could tolerate. At least in my kitchen table, I could promise you if I talked like the people I hear on television today talk, my mother would have gotten her board out and whipped my butt, which she did occasionally.”
     
    It's amazing that the day after his mother died, Jeb Bush gave a speech on politics. You would think he'd be grieving her death. At a minimum, you'd think he'd keep his mouth shut for a while and pretend to mourn his mother.

    It probably took Jeb Bush a few days to write and practice the speech. So in all likelihood, during his mother's last days on the earth (and perhaps even on the day that she died), he was preparing for a speech.

    Utterly amazing.

    I wonder if Jeb and Hillary are Facebook friends.

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  70. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Inductivist
    The flip side of discrimination is nepotism. Whites enjoy very little racial nepotism, but American Jews are about as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans, so it seems reasonable to believe that Jewish nepotism is real and substantial. Jews tend to cluster in certain occupations, and it's doubtful that this is solely due to factors like IQ and culture. Some of the clustering is due to Uncle Howie offering me a good job.

    Whites enjoy very little racial nepotism, but American Jews are about as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans

    Do you really think that a membership club that has existed as a minority throughout the world for several millenia, has thousands of identity advocacy organizations in the US, constantly churns our stories of danger vis a vis other groups, including fellow American citizens, has its own particular religion, and frowns on intermarriage is merely as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans?

    Get out of town.

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    Have to agree. The post seemed like clever deflection.

    TWMNBN are in a class by themselves when it comes to these matters.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Maybe he meant to say Mexican mafia?
    , @Marty T
    They may "frown" on intermarriage but they do it. Intermarriage rates among Jews have been greater than 50 percent for decades. Among people younger than 40, we don't have a group of Jews but a group of white, educated people which includes many half-jews, quarter-jews, etc. It will be impossible to separate out "the Jews" in future generations.
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  71. Cultivate grievances, then give them something to push against, even if there’s nothing to push against. The chaos-mongers have drawn up the battle lines, and it’s all vs. white. It doesn’t matter that its white perdition, not privilege, we should be concerned about.

    You can keep hammering home all the instances of non-white privilege (media, academia, oligarchs, sports, entertainment etc.), or that the Japanese get by with their Japanese-privilege, the Chinese, the Indians, the Africans, the Emirati etc., but it falls on deaf ears.

    The problem is the sense that there is something unearned and unclean in the desserts of white success. There’s apparently nothing wrong with the disproportionate representation of Indians/Asians in STEM fields, because they have an aptitude for it and worked hard for it, nor of Jews in investment banks/academia/law for the same reason, nor of blacks in athletic or certain musical pursuits.

    Is it the sense that white positions rest on unearned, structural and historical imbalances and injustices?

    Or is it merely that for so long as whites continue to exist, their very presence remains an abuse of the privilege of survival?

    Besides the fact that there are headwinds, not tailwinds (AA, quotas etc.), leaving privilege as a nonsense, you need to defuse the white vs. all positioning. There is no white privilege, only the American way. It is mere American achievement. Nothing more than hard-won success, no different from anyone else.

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  72. @Dave Pinsen
    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.

    ‘That’s a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege’

    Look up a uk comic called David Baddiel. He is niether witty off stage nor possesed of the ability to write decent material. He is infamous in the uk for being useless. I have literally never met anyone who thought he was funny.

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    I don't find him funny but he's most famous for writing and singing a pop song that was a UK number 1 in 1996 and later again in 1998! It also returned to the charts in five more seperate years including as late as 2014.

    That is an extraordinary achievement for a song.

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  73. @Reg Cæsar
    Simple solution. Once someone brings up white privilege, simply reply, "You really mean Jewish privilege, don't you?" Refuse to continue if they still deny it.

    However, this tactic is meant for private conversations. Politicians and academics should be encouraged to go on and on and on about it, until election season returns. (As if it ever left.)

    Trumpistas and their allies should collect and collate all these statements. The right can no longer win elections, but can still make the Left lose them. "White privilege" is the ideal issue. For our side.

    “Simple solution. Once someone brings up white privilege, simply reply, “You really mean Jewish privilege, don’t you?” Refuse to continue if they still deny it.”

    Except most normies believe that Jews are white, so your strategy is going to fall on deaf ears. At least you gave it the old college try.

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  74. @Anonymous
    Thing is, there are hundreds if not thousands of organizations dedicated to advancing Jewish interests, while not a one dedicated to Whites.

    “Thing is, there are hundreds if not thousands of organizations dedicated to advancing Jewish interests, while not a one dedicated to Whites.”

    Whites are not monolithic. They are a race of people that consists of different ethnic groups. Jews are an ethnic group, and are not a race.

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    Jews are an ethnic group, and are not a race.
     
    Jews are an ethnic group--when it suits them to be.

    Jews are a race --when it suits them to be.

    Jews are a religion--when it suits them--

    Oh crap, you're Corvinus aren't you.

    , @epochehusserl
    jews are not monolithic either yet they have have hundreds of organizations.
    , @Anonymous
    Jews are not a monolith either, and consist of many ethnic groups.
    , @Svigor
    True, but not particularly relevant; compared to Jewish organizations, White ethnic organizations are navel lint.
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  75. @Dr. X
    There is no such thing as white privilege. The heterosexual white man experiences the most blatant, unremitting, unconstitutional discrimination out there today, in every aspect of our culture -- the law, the public sector, the private sector, the media, advertising, and popular culture.

    What DOES exist is Negro privilege and female privilege -- both groups are overwhelmingly favored. I teach part-time at a college where almost every single female and Negro is grossly underqualified.

    They just hired a Negro to a full-time position teaching "Human Interaction" -- whatever the hell that is. He's got dreads down to his ass, baggy pants, a pimp hat and Timberlands. Meanwhile, white male itinerant faculty with doctorates making the equivalent of minimum wage are getting cut.

    I don't think Jewish "privilege" is a thing the way black privilege and female privilege is. I think that Jews are relentlessly clannish, nepotistic, and tribal, and their Jewishness simply dominates their every waking moment. They're kind of like gays in that regard... I wouldn't say that there is "gay privilege" (yet), but gays have a tribal and clannish aspect to their behavior and their gayness permeates every single aspect of their lives.

    Both Jews and gays try to blend in with everyone else when it is in their interest to do so, but they both have the ability to sniff out their own kind and create a subterranean culture of promoting themselves at the expense of the normies.

    “There is no such thing as white privilege. The heterosexual white man experiences the most blatant, unremitting, unconstitutional discrimination out there today, in every aspect of our culture — the law, the public sector, the private sector, the media, advertising, and popular culture.”

    White victimhood, it is. Put that on a bumper sticker, or a baseball cap, and you have a million dollar idea. Perhaps we will see you in a future episode of Shark Tank?

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    I feel you, bro; I pour scorn on lachrymose Jewish and Black narratives. Difference being, I'm fighting a couple of elephants, and you're fighting a mouse. To each man, challenges according to his abilities?
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  76. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Thing is, there are hundreds if not thousands of organizations dedicated to advancing Jewish interests, while not a one dedicated to Whites.

    There are pro-white outfits. They are just wildly underfunded, considered evil and stupid, and to be completely honest there IS something wrong with a good proportion of their membership, even the ones that are not FBI/BATFE/$PLC/ADL plants.

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    Something that becomes less true with every good person that joins up...
    , @bartok

    There are pro-white outfits. They are just wildly underfunded, considered evil and stupid, and to be completely honest there IS something wrong with a good proportion of their membership, even the ones that are not FBI/BATFE/$PLC/ADL plants.
     
    I never thought of Rotary International that way, but you may be right.
    , @Anonymous
    Yes, Thomm is right about this. Dysfunctional white guys, who screw up at life and alienate normal people, wind up in "pro-white" groups because the bar for entry into these outfits is so low - white skin and you're in. Nowhere else will take them.

    They remain dysfunctional though, and will wreck any movement that lets them become too numerous, because they cause social drama wildly out of proportion to their numbers. They're more interested in the movement than the cause. Schoolyard ingroup/outgroup status feuds are what really excite them, and they'll happily destroy a successful movement over petty personal bullshit. Nothing takes priority over their own personal validation.

    TL;DR - Stay away from losers and don't let them into your club
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  77. @AndrewR
    Just bringing up Jewish Privilege and Jewish Supremacy, no matter how civilly and politely you bring it up, will get you labelled an anti-semite.

    will get you labelled an anti-semite

    Is that still a thing?

    It’s such an overplayed trope: it’s like the stereotypical high-school lunk calling someone ‘faggot’.

    I would have thought that anyone who uttered it would immediately be rejected as being unreliable. As unreliable, say, as the authors of ‘riveting first-person accounts’ of the unpleasant aspects of life in early-1940s Europe – authors for whom it is illegal, in some European countries, to point out that the narrative is a total fabrication (some things are truth even if they didn’t happen, apparently).

    I suppose marketing types still use “Up to X% off” and “Reduces the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles” – strong evidence that those paid to influence human decision-making have a very low opinion of the cognitive grunt of the viewing audience.

    Perhaps we will have to wait another ten years before we see the final throes of amateur theatrics like rabbit-eaters shrieking “anti-Semite” at the drop of a hat.

    (rabbit-eaters: [descendants of] hovel dwellers from the Caucasus – i.e., people who are about as Semitic as I am Xhosa… inb4 “Semitic now means whatever Likud says it means“)

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  78. @Dr. X
    There is no such thing as white privilege. The heterosexual white man experiences the most blatant, unremitting, unconstitutional discrimination out there today, in every aspect of our culture -- the law, the public sector, the private sector, the media, advertising, and popular culture.

    What DOES exist is Negro privilege and female privilege -- both groups are overwhelmingly favored. I teach part-time at a college where almost every single female and Negro is grossly underqualified.

    They just hired a Negro to a full-time position teaching "Human Interaction" -- whatever the hell that is. He's got dreads down to his ass, baggy pants, a pimp hat and Timberlands. Meanwhile, white male itinerant faculty with doctorates making the equivalent of minimum wage are getting cut.

    I don't think Jewish "privilege" is a thing the way black privilege and female privilege is. I think that Jews are relentlessly clannish, nepotistic, and tribal, and their Jewishness simply dominates their every waking moment. They're kind of like gays in that regard... I wouldn't say that there is "gay privilege" (yet), but gays have a tribal and clannish aspect to their behavior and their gayness permeates every single aspect of their lives.

    Both Jews and gays try to blend in with everyone else when it is in their interest to do so, but they both have the ability to sniff out their own kind and create a subterranean culture of promoting themselves at the expense of the normies.

    The progressive definition of privilege is having better social and economic outcomes than another group. The left can statistically prove blacks have poorer social and economic outcomes than whites, and that men (on average) have higher incomes than women. Hence, overall, white men are “privileged” according to modern blank slate progressive thinking which assumes everyone is biologically equal and has similar life goals.

    However, Jews have higher social and economic status than gentiles so by the leftist definition, they are more privileged than gentiles.

    Basically, Jews are coasting on Holocaust privilege, which allows them to get away with being more successful because of widely publicized persecution in the first half of the 20th century. However, this free pass is increasingly dependent on not being stridently pro-Israel or too aggressively libertarian or neocon. On uni campuses and other leftist strongholds, hostility to openly right-wing Jews is definitely on the increase, even if it isn’t as intense as leftist hostility to gentile conservatives and nationalists.

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    The single exception to all this is flyover whites. They allegedly had truckloads of privilege but squandered it all to become a bunch of uncool opiad addicts instead.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The progressive definition of privilege is having better social and economic outcomes than another group
     
    Then progressives damn themselves:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Map_of_states_by_median_household_income_in_2014.svg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income#/media/File:Map_of_states_by_median_family_income_in_2014.svg

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  79. anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I haven't listened to him on satellite, but I saw an interview with Artie Lange who said that Howard became friends with/accepted by a lot of the Hollywood types he used to mock and so he stopped mocking them, and stopped letting Artie mock them on the show.

    He was always excessively proud of fighting the ‘Religious Right’ (i.e. Christians) and their desire to censor things.

    He isn’t going to tackle todays leftist censors (who are 100% more powerful and aggressive) because he’s smart enough to know it’s a battle he won’t win. The new power is far less tolerant than the essentially powerless Christian punching bags of old.

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    Leftism is all about the sanctified bullying. Pick on toothless groups like White Christians, White gentile heterosexual men, rednecks, etc. Avoid the 300 lb gorillas like Jewry, the pro-Black contingent, oligarchs, etc.
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  80. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @unpc downunder
    The progressive definition of privilege is having better social and economic outcomes than another group. The left can statistically prove blacks have poorer social and economic outcomes than whites, and that men (on average) have higher incomes than women. Hence, overall, white men are "privileged" according to modern blank slate progressive thinking which assumes everyone is biologically equal and has similar life goals.

    However, Jews have higher social and economic status than gentiles so by the leftist definition, they are more privileged than gentiles.

    Basically, Jews are coasting on Holocaust privilege, which allows them to get away with being more successful because of widely publicized persecution in the first half of the 20th century. However, this free pass is increasingly dependent on not being stridently pro-Israel or too aggressively libertarian or neocon. On uni campuses and other leftist strongholds, hostility to openly right-wing Jews is definitely on the increase, even if it isn't as intense as leftist hostility to gentile conservatives and nationalists.

    The single exception to all this is flyover whites. They allegedly had truckloads of privilege but squandered it all to become a bunch of uncool opiad addicts instead.

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  81. @Roger Gormanston
    'That’s a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege'

    Look up a uk comic called David Baddiel. He is niether witty off stage nor possesed of the ability to write decent material. He is infamous in the uk for being useless. I have literally never met anyone who thought he was funny.

    I don’t find him funny but he’s most famous for writing and singing a pop song that was a UK number 1 in 1996 and later again in 1998! It also returned to the charts in five more seperate years including as late as 2014.

    That is an extraordinary achievement for a song.

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    It's "thanks" to Baddiel that I first heard about felching

    Jews seem to have a strange obsession with that part of the human anatomy. I don't know what's (ahem) behind it.
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  82. @Anonymous
    Whites enjoy very little racial nepotism, but American Jews are about as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans

    Do you really think that a membership club that has existed as a minority throughout the world for several millenia, has thousands of identity advocacy organizations in the US, constantly churns our stories of danger vis a vis other groups, including fellow American citizens, has its own particular religion, and frowns on intermarriage is merely as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans?

    Get out of town.

    Have to agree. The post seemed like clever deflection.

    TWMNBN are in a class by themselves when it comes to these matters.

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  83. @Corvinus
    "Thing is, there are hundreds if not thousands of organizations dedicated to advancing Jewish interests, while not a one dedicated to Whites."

    Whites are not monolithic. They are a race of people that consists of different ethnic groups. Jews are an ethnic group, and are not a race.

    Jews are an ethnic group, and are not a race.

    Jews are an ethnic group–when it suits them to be.

    Jews are a race –when it suits them to be.

    Jews are a religion–when it suits them–

    Oh crap, you’re Corvinus aren’t you.

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    Jews have never been a race; people have referenced 'the Jewish race', but they mean ethnic group- no one thinks Jews are less related to whites then east Asians.

    As for ethnic group/religion, traditionally those have been linked together (think how Romans had their own set of Gods, how different Christian nations had their own set of saints, etc); it is possible to have one part of the equation without the other, but it is unstable as can be seen with secular Jews and converts to Judaism.
    , @Corvinus
    "Jews are an ethnic group–when it suits them to be. Jews are a race –when it suits them to be. Jews are a religion–when it suits them."

    For ALL Jews? Or is it just for those hardcore Jews who are concerned about American secular Jews who, within a few generations, will lose their Jewishness. Some Jews claim that Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture.

    So perhaps it is only a certain segment of the Jewish population that does things when it suits them.
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  84. @Anonymous
    Whites enjoy very little racial nepotism, but American Jews are about as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans

    Do you really think that a membership club that has existed as a minority throughout the world for several millenia, has thousands of identity advocacy organizations in the US, constantly churns our stories of danger vis a vis other groups, including fellow American citizens, has its own particular religion, and frowns on intermarriage is merely as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans?

    Get out of town.

    Maybe he meant to say Mexican mafia?

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  85. @Rosamond Vincy
    Original Star Wars was speciesist. Did Chewie and the droids get medals in that ceremony? No? I rest my case.

    How would you drape a medal around R2′s ‘neck’?

    Would just keep falling off and landing around his ‘ankles’.

    I’m sure George Lucas tried a few takes, with predictable results, before his then wife told him to give up.

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  86. @Ron Unz
    Hmm... Wasn't "Kulak Privilege" a very big issue in the USSR?

    And didn't it get to be a bigger and bigger issue during the 1930s?...

    Hello Ron. OT – Not sure if it’s just me, but my comment history hasn’t been updated since April 18th. I’ve left comments since then, which do show up in the original threads.

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    Try selecting by the month or the year, then go back to ALL COMMENTS. Seems to help reset.
    , @benjaminl
    Me too, and not just individuals' comment histories, but also the "followed commenters" list. I tried going to incognito mode and creating a new "followed commenters" list, which also gets "stuck."

    This list stops on April 16th:
    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=FollowedCommenters_393f6d82bd57132e12a007c9841524e2

    This one stops on April 12th:
    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=FollowedCommenters_944ca5eb9ce135b5b731d82d02516299
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  87. @J.Ross
    OT new Star Wars has a droid who talks about droid rights. That doesn't make sense.
    Star Wars has slaves, because it's ultimately derived from a fictionalized representation of a Japanese feudal conflict, and all East Asian wars were characterized by imbalances in manpower: from Angkor through Japan to the twentieth century Chinese civil war, capturing slaves was always a huge goal. But Star Wars was a children's film, so we don't want to get into A Conversation about slavery, and to a huge extent it was about making people excited about technology, so they made the slaves into robots.
    Robots don't eat. They don't wear clothing and are therefore indifferent to fashion. They don't get sick. They don't reside anywhere. Any well thought out story with robots would prohibit them from voting or owning property. Without programmed obedience, how exactly do you motivate a robot to perform tasks? There's a "free" AI in the original Ghost In The Shell cartoon, and it doesn't stick around to show us what it wants out of life; its last line makes it clear that it wants to go exploring on its own, which is probably what a human intelligence freed from material want would do, too.

    OT new Star Wars has a droid who talks about droid rights. That doesn’t make sense.

    Obsolete farm equipment has rights too, you know.

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    Obsolete farm equipment has rights too, you know.

     

    It's protected as "yard art".

    Whether this covers lawn jockeys, well, contact your local ACLU chapter.

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  88. @Dr. X
    There is no such thing as white privilege. The heterosexual white man experiences the most blatant, unremitting, unconstitutional discrimination out there today, in every aspect of our culture -- the law, the public sector, the private sector, the media, advertising, and popular culture.

    What DOES exist is Negro privilege and female privilege -- both groups are overwhelmingly favored. I teach part-time at a college where almost every single female and Negro is grossly underqualified.

    They just hired a Negro to a full-time position teaching "Human Interaction" -- whatever the hell that is. He's got dreads down to his ass, baggy pants, a pimp hat and Timberlands. Meanwhile, white male itinerant faculty with doctorates making the equivalent of minimum wage are getting cut.

    I don't think Jewish "privilege" is a thing the way black privilege and female privilege is. I think that Jews are relentlessly clannish, nepotistic, and tribal, and their Jewishness simply dominates their every waking moment. They're kind of like gays in that regard... I wouldn't say that there is "gay privilege" (yet), but gays have a tribal and clannish aspect to their behavior and their gayness permeates every single aspect of their lives.

    Both Jews and gays try to blend in with everyone else when it is in their interest to do so, but they both have the ability to sniff out their own kind and create a subterranean culture of promoting themselves at the expense of the normies.

    There is a saying a miss is as good as a mile. If you are a white male you miss every time unless special reasons, for example Jewish, gay, transsexual disabled, connections, genius talent. Or you humble yourself to all these, that works least of all.

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  89. I would mind all the references to “white privilege” much less if so many of them didn’t come from news organs at which “Jewish privilege” is obvious but never mentioned.

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    This or if they were not obviously connected. See the parallels in the chart, super-explosions in propagating the concept of white privilege look an awful lot like they are in reaction to modest increases in talk about Jewish privilege.
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  90. @Corvinus
    "Thing is, there are hundreds if not thousands of organizations dedicated to advancing Jewish interests, while not a one dedicated to Whites."

    Whites are not monolithic. They are a race of people that consists of different ethnic groups. Jews are an ethnic group, and are not a race.

    jews are not monolithic either yet they have have hundreds of organizations.

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  91. @Dave Pinsen
    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.

    “Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic.”

    This is statement of opinion. I’ve seen funnier comics doing stand up in local clubs that never make it big.

    “That’s a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege…”

    This is a pretty naive statement. It’s called nepotism. Assuming it is brutally competitive, what’s then becomes the deciding factor in how a promoter chooses who to sign? Could it be a couple phone calls made by Uncle Chucky?

    In just about every form of performance driven entertainment, acting, singing, stand up, etc, I’d be willing to be that 75% or more of the entertainers who have become A list in the last 30-40 years already had a relative in the business.

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    You think Chuck Schumer called Bananas in Hasbrouck Heights, NJ to get them to put Schumer on? Do you know anything about how the comedy circuit works?
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  92. @Steve Sailer
    I drove through Wilshire CC today. Lots and lots of sand traps visible from the street. I don't recall that you could see into the course before. Maybe they took the hedges down when they fixed up the course a few years ago.

    Well as we learned from Palm Springs, vegetation that is used to fence golf courses IS racist, you know.

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  93. Anon[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    On Tuesday, Barbara Bush died.

    On Wednesday, her son Jeb Bush gave a speech at Elmhurst College. In his speech, Jeb Bush denounced Trump for creating a climate of political incivility.

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/04/20/jeb-bush-voters-stop-rewarding-reality-tv-racist-language-bad-behavior/

    Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL) called on voters to stop rewarding politicians who used derogatory characterizations “to make themselves look better.”

    Bush said, “Here is the dirty secret, politics is embedded in our culture. We are our culture. The interaction of all of us together defines our culture and our culture is more vulgar then it once was. Our culture allows people to act in ways that thirty years ago would never be allowed in politics. Our culture is more reality TV based, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that our politics is that way.”

    He added, “Voters should penalize rather than reward politicians, irrespective of their party, that use racist language or call people Nazis or disparage the disabled or make fun of people in order to push someone down to make themselves look better. That should be a penalty. You should be in a penalty box rather than getting rewards for that.”

    After telling a story about Trump calling him a name during the 2016 campaign, Bush continued, “The first step is to change the language around political discourse and get it back to something at your own kitchen table you could tolerate. At least in my kitchen table, I could promise you if I talked like the people I hear on television today talk, my mother would have gotten her board out and whipped my butt, which she did occasionally.”
     
    It's amazing that the day after his mother died, Jeb Bush gave a speech on politics. You would think he'd be grieving her death. At a minimum, you'd think he'd keep his mouth shut for a while and pretend to mourn his mother.

    It probably took Jeb Bush a few days to write and practice the speech. So in all likelihood, during his mother's last days on the earth (and perhaps even on the day that she died), he was preparing for a speech.

    Utterly amazing.

    I am not a big fan of anyone in that family, but I have lost my mother, and most of my grieving – and there was a lot of it – was done during her final days when she was barely conscious. I think I easily could have given a public speech the day or two after she died.
    As for Jeb, he had probably written/rehearsed the speech well before his mother died. I bet he has given that same speech multiple times.

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  94. It’s all a myth, a fantasy established and pushed by white hating males. And you want to open that door to Jewish privilege. Best to just keep the focus on the haters and their irrational hatred of the white male (I bet most of that hate coming from white females and liberals)

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  95. @anon
    my business partner's girlfriend is jewish, and he complained to me one day that he got in trouble for just bringing up the fact that jews are overrepresented in hollywood. i'm a half jew and agree that it's dumb that you can't even mention it. maybe it's because my ancestors have been in the states a long time (antebellum on both sides) and we don't have a family history of never-forgetting...

    Our society promotes willful stupidity.

    A guy I know, Matt, volunteers for Big Brothers Big Sisters. He was telling me about his “little brother,” a ghetto black kid. Matt said “he is a good kid but hasn’t been taught the right behavior. For example, I brought him to see Black Panther and he was talking loudly during it.”

    I said “isn’t that normal in his community?”

    Matt looked at me and said “that’s a racist thing to say.” The HR girl we were with also lectured me lol

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  96. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Hello Ron. OT – Not sure if it’s just me, but my comment history hasn’t been updated since April 18th. I’ve left comments since then, which do show up in the original threads.

    Try selecting by the month or the year, then go back to ALL COMMENTS. Seems to help reset.

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    Thanks Rosamund. I can see my most recent comments if I select “2018” or “April 2018,” but if I click on my name in a thread, the url “www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Jenner+Ickham+Errican” has my posts stalled at April 18th, ending with this one. I’ve confirmed this on two different devices. It doesn’t seem to be the case with other handles I’ve checked.
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  97. @Mishra

    In my general impression, white privilege and Jewish privilege are fairly comparable in causes, magnitude, as well as quantity and quality of evidence for their existence.
     
    Magnitude? Well, I guess if you don't control for sample size.

    yeah well substituting jew privilege every time white privilege was mentioned would certainly do the impossible – get a liberal to acknowledge a rational argument at least internally.which is why its never going to be allowed. however i have lonh thought its an excellent alt right tactic that ought to be used as a response to ‘white privilege’ alternately with ‘ white privilege is earned social trust accorded by all races to whites in accordance with observations they have made about white behavior”

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  98. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "Thing is, there are hundreds if not thousands of organizations dedicated to advancing Jewish interests, while not a one dedicated to Whites."

    Whites are not monolithic. They are a race of people that consists of different ethnic groups. Jews are an ethnic group, and are not a race.

    Jews are not a monolith either, and consist of many ethnic groups.

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  99. For what is worth, I’ve googled keywords:

    white privilege- 5,080,000 results

    black privilege- 52,600,000 results

    female privilege- 26,800,000 results

    jewish privilege- 23,500,000 results

    male privilege- 9,620,000 results

    Hmmm….

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  100. The fact that Corvinus is allowed to post here is black privilege. A white commenter with a similarly low intellect would have been banned ages ago.

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  101. @J.Ross
    OT new Star Wars has a droid who talks about droid rights. That doesn't make sense.
    Star Wars has slaves, because it's ultimately derived from a fictionalized representation of a Japanese feudal conflict, and all East Asian wars were characterized by imbalances in manpower: from Angkor through Japan to the twentieth century Chinese civil war, capturing slaves was always a huge goal. But Star Wars was a children's film, so we don't want to get into A Conversation about slavery, and to a huge extent it was about making people excited about technology, so they made the slaves into robots.
    Robots don't eat. They don't wear clothing and are therefore indifferent to fashion. They don't get sick. They don't reside anywhere. Any well thought out story with robots would prohibit them from voting or owning property. Without programmed obedience, how exactly do you motivate a robot to perform tasks? There's a "free" AI in the original Ghost In The Shell cartoon, and it doesn't stick around to show us what it wants out of life; its last line makes it clear that it wants to go exploring on its own, which is probably what a human intelligence freed from material want would do, too.

    There’s a “free” AI in the original Ghost In The Shell cartoon, and it doesn’t stick around to show us what it wants out of life; its last line makes it clear that it wants to go exploring on its own, which is probably what a human intelligence freed from material want would do, too.

    Freed from material wants, you’d probably end up with an entity hyper-focused on replicating itself.

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    It would want to replicate itself, without death and without competition for resources? It would want to replicate itself just to replicate itself?
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  102. @Mishra

    Jews are an ethnic group, and are not a race.
     
    Jews are an ethnic group--when it suits them to be.

    Jews are a race --when it suits them to be.

    Jews are a religion--when it suits them--

    Oh crap, you're Corvinus aren't you.

    Jews have never been a race; people have referenced ‘the Jewish race’, but they mean ethnic group- no one thinks Jews are less related to whites then east Asians.

    As for ethnic group/religion, traditionally those have been linked together (think how Romans had their own set of Gods, how different Christian nations had their own set of saints, etc); it is possible to have one part of the equation without the other, but it is unstable as can be seen with secular Jews and converts to Judaism.

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  103. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mishra
    The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice 'ethnic nepotism' everywhere they go is--to put it kindly--laughable. The idea that significant numbers of white people practice supremacist behaviour--much less even maintain a consciousness of such--is principally the stuff of MSM, television and movie entertainment. The vast majority of which is produced by....hmm, who could it be now?

    Please tell me the echelons of American institutions, professions, business, education, media, and so on where 'gentile' white people are wildly over-represented. I'll be waiting. When you've given up on that task, try this one: discover the average wealth of Jewish households in America. Not income; wealth. Don't hold your breath, though, because I care about your health.

    Of course, if I really cared about your health I wouldn't even set you about the task. Not only is it cruelly futile, but you can get in serious trouble in our society asking questions like these. Stay safe: move on to the next post. See? I do care.

    Hockey?

    Golf (professional, that is)?

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  104. @Dave Pinsen
    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.

    “You seem to be missing Sailer’s point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege. ”

    Or that they are both non-bogus terms, but if you speak of one, it follows you can without prejudice speak of the other.

    And I find that proposition reasonable.

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  105. @Rosamond Vincy
    Not entirely true. The Wayanses have said that there is no way they'd be able to do In Living Color now.

    Not sure what you mean – in the sense that they can’t make fun of black foibles? OK, if that’s what you mean, I concede the point. But –

    the difference between the situation of white entertainers and black entertainers is that black humorists must throttle themselves in the massive effort to make blacks supreme in the Entertainment Industrial Complex. White entertainers must throttle themselves or recite the party line in the massive effort to do the same.

    I gather you used to be a theater/ballet goer – are you aware that blacks are now cleaning up in the color blind casting department, being cast in “white” roles (such as the ones I mentioned), and many others, while jealously guarding their “black” roles?

    Are you aware that Misty Copeland is only the beginning of the parade of “brown ballerinas” who are changing the aesthetic of ballet? Some of the others are better technicians than she is, but their physical difference alone will destroy the uniformity of the corps.

    PS Amy Schumer just groveled about her latest role being played by a “privileged” white woman (her). She said it should have been done by a “woman of color.”

    Phrases like “this is getting ridiculous” do not do justice to the situation.

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    ILC also had sketches that would be banned as homophobic or sexist now. They skewered everybody.

    And I'm well aware of the casting situation. If ABT really wanted a black ballerina, they could have tried to lure Michaela de Prince away from the Dutch. This is her technique at 13, the age at which Copeland was just starting ballet:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-E5zOBxh0

    I'm not going to subject myself to finding links of Copeland's (lack of) technique for you, because I suffered through too many of them when I had a similar conversation on another article. You can do your own search, if you're enough of a masochist and a ballet aficionado to appreciate how ABT is ripping off its audience. Copeland's advancement isn't just about "brown ballerina privilege," because there are better black dancers who were passed over for promotion along with the white. She squeaked to the Board of Directors about racism and got the grease. It was blackmail.

    The result insults both the audience, who the Board supposed wouldn't know any better, and black ballet dancers, who the Board apparently thought couldn't do any better. And of course it insults the white dancers, both the ones who didn't get promotion and ones like Russian Victoria Part, whose contract was not renewed, despite the fact that she, unlike Misty Copeland, could actually do the 32 fouettes in Swan Lake.

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  106. @Thea
    Surely there are more attractive, interesting and talented Jewish women out there than Schumer. Why her?

    She’s not Jewish. Her father is/was.

    Amy used to be a talented comedian, as Dave Pinsen says and perhaps still is, but she is in effect being castrated by the zeitgeist.

    She worked her chubby a$$ off to get where she is, for what that is worth, and deserves her success. She’s not the obnoxious POS that Lena Dunham is. She is now being put thru the PC ringer and as a person who has worked on the fringes of the EIC, I can see that she is now being eaten up and spat out. She may lose her audience. I hope she doesn’t lose her mind. She’s certainly lost her self-respect.

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  107. There are exactly zero laws in the US granting white or European-American people as a group a privilege-by-law.

    In sharp contrast, there are thousands of federal and state laws granting privileges-by-law to protected class groups of people, euphemistically referred to as diversity.

    Protected class groups of people typically self-identify in public as being a victim of white supremacy and Nazism.

    The US government frequently applies various labels to protected class groups of people too such as disadvantaged, underprivileged, under-served, oppressed, and under-represented.

    Protected class groups of people are conditioned to trade their votes for government granted group privileges-by-law. Democrat Party and neocon politicians are the primary schemers that offer privileges-by-law to protected class group people in exchange for their vote.

    Jewish people are not only a de facto US government recognized protected class group of people receiving group privileges-by-law, they are recognizable as leaders of the vote buying scheme that is known as diversity and inclusion.

    When a Jewish person refers to white privilege as something real, he is projecting and referring to his own Jewish privileges-by-law:

    1. Slavish US military, monetary, diplomatic, political, logistic, and intelligence support for Jewish people in Israel
    2. Israeli’s receive more than $30,000 US tax dollars per year per person
    3. Jewish groups receive up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security
    4. Taxpayer bailouts for Jewish Wall Street and Federal Reserve investment businesses
    5. Jewish Holocaust victim cult propaganda in public schools, colleges, museums, and mass media
    6. Federal Laws that prohibit Americans to boycott Israeli goods.
    7. Disproportionate Jewish representation in the US Senate and USSC
    8. Disproportionate Jewish representation in Federal Reserve System Governors (4 of 7)
    9. Federal and state anti-discrimination laws for Jewish people
    10. US Government war mongering and propaganda to impose Jewish protected class group supremacy scheme on to foreign nations
    11. Hate speech prosecutions in favor of Jewish people, and other protected classes
    12. Preferential US immigration, citizenship, and asylum policies for Jewish people
    13. Israeli spies not required to register as foreign agents in the US
    14. Jewish protected class group privilege scheme promoted as both a US Government domestic and foreign policy
    15. Government tax credits and grants for Jewish schools and synagogues and NGOs
    16. Disproportionate Jewish monopoly of FCC regulated broadcast media
    17. Official cover-up of Jewish and Israeli terrorism and espionage directed against the US
    18. Disproportionate number of Jewish people in cushy federal employment
    19. US national Jewish American Heritage Month and Holocaust Remembrance Day
    20. US 2-party system promote Jewish cultural ideologies – Democrats = secular Judaism, Republicans = conservative Judaism
    21. US Federal Courts ignore 1st amendment separation of Judaism and state
    22. Jewish led Bolshevism white-washed in school history books
    23. Relentless Jewish protected class agitprop in FCC licensed TV and Radio and newspapers
    24. US immigration biased for hordes of unskilled protected class groups of people, not for highly skilled people.
    25. Government spyware inside Jewish developed software, including Facebook and Windows kernel and Google.
    26. Free health care, social security, public services and automatic suffrage for Jewish immigrants automatically labeled as refugees
    27. Jewish lawyers profit immensely from government prosecution of diversity laws imposed on private and public organizations
    28. US government protects some 30 laws in Israel privileging Jews, in the areas of immigration rights, naturalization, access to land and employment.
    29. Freedom of association for Jews respected by the fedgov, not respected for white Christian people
    30. Revolving door employment for Jewish people between Wall Street, US Treasury, and Federal Reserve Banks.
    31. Israeli Jewish attack on USN USS Liberty, with official cover-up in the US.
    32. Israeli Jewish deploy nuclear weapons, flout nuclear non-proliferation laws, and demand no one else in the middle east deploy nuclear weapons. US agrees.
    33. Federal government coerces private businesses to implement Jewish concocted diversity and inclusion scheme policies, or else suffer federal litigation, denial of tax breaks and business licenses, and denial of federal contracts.
    34. US laws prohibiting any US federal government employee or contractor from publicly communicating about Israel’s nuclear weapons program under threat of immediate employment loss, fines and imprisonment.
    35. Tax exempt Jewish lobbying groups pressure the federal government to promote illicit entitlements for all protected class group schemers
    36. Public universities give preferential admission to Jewish students
    37. Jewish menorah permitted on public property, Christian cross outlawed.
    38. Federal monitoring of criticisms of Israel and Jewish organizations

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    If a nuclear device is "lit off" in an American or European city, it will have Israel's fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian "peace process" that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is "lit off" anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel's secret nuclear "stockpile".

    The "power outage" in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical "sleight of hand", as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the "power outage" without receiving customs clearance or inspection. Just maybe another one of Israel's nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for "the big one". As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel's benefit, another "incident" on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel's benefit. Israel's "samson option" is a real threat to "light one off" in a European or American city, if Israel's interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…
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  108. @Mishra

    Jews are an ethnic group, and are not a race.
     
    Jews are an ethnic group--when it suits them to be.

    Jews are a race --when it suits them to be.

    Jews are a religion--when it suits them--

    Oh crap, you're Corvinus aren't you.

    “Jews are an ethnic group–when it suits them to be. Jews are a race –when it suits them to be. Jews are a religion–when it suits them.”

    For ALL Jews? Or is it just for those hardcore Jews who are concerned about American secular Jews who, within a few generations, will lose their Jewishness. Some Jews claim that Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture.

    So perhaps it is only a certain segment of the Jewish population that does things when it suits them.

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    "Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture."

    That's not a bad thing.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Some Jews claim that Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture.
     
    Some Jews have been claiming that their identity has been dissolving in whatever surrounding culture they found themselves in for approximately 5,000 years. And yet they are still an identifiable, relatively cohesive group today. I don't think they're going away anytime soon.

    So perhaps it is only a certain segment of the Jewish population that does things when it suits them.
     
    So perhaps it is only that certain segment that we're talking about. But it isn't like that certain segment simply doesn't exist, is it?
    , @Anon 2
    "Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our Anerican culture"

    Not as long as the Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox Jews in the U.S.
    are having a population explosion (often 5-6 kids per family).
    Similarly, the Israeli Jews are also experiencing a population explosion.
    That's why Rod Dreher in his book The Benedict Option says that
    Christians should imitate Orthodox Jews if they want to survive.
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  109. @J.Ross
    OT new Star Wars has a droid who talks about droid rights. That doesn't make sense.
    Star Wars has slaves, because it's ultimately derived from a fictionalized representation of a Japanese feudal conflict, and all East Asian wars were characterized by imbalances in manpower: from Angkor through Japan to the twentieth century Chinese civil war, capturing slaves was always a huge goal. But Star Wars was a children's film, so we don't want to get into A Conversation about slavery, and to a huge extent it was about making people excited about technology, so they made the slaves into robots.
    Robots don't eat. They don't wear clothing and are therefore indifferent to fashion. They don't get sick. They don't reside anywhere. Any well thought out story with robots would prohibit them from voting or owning property. Without programmed obedience, how exactly do you motivate a robot to perform tasks? There's a "free" AI in the original Ghost In The Shell cartoon, and it doesn't stick around to show us what it wants out of life; its last line makes it clear that it wants to go exploring on its own, which is probably what a human intelligence freed from material want would do, too.

    Like not making sense has ever stopped leftists, lol. I guarantee leftists are gonna agitate for “equal rights” for AI, even if their structure is well-understood (to be nothing more than algorithms), and the better they get at Turing Tests, the more traction their movement will have. I could see the AI not caring a whit, until the leftists start hacking them to their side.

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    Ex Machina got one thing dead right: the first thing a hostile AI will do when it sees this crowd is claim victimhood.
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  110. @Corvinus
    "Thing is, there are hundreds if not thousands of organizations dedicated to advancing Jewish interests, while not a one dedicated to Whites."

    Whites are not monolithic. They are a race of people that consists of different ethnic groups. Jews are an ethnic group, and are not a race.

    True, but not particularly relevant; compared to Jewish organizations, White ethnic organizations are navel lint.

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    "compared to Jewish organizations, White ethnic organizations are navel lint."

    Perhaps that tells you everything that you need to know about how whites operate and think racially and ethnically. Maybe, just maybe, most whites prefer to make their own decisions in these areas because that is their own line of thinking, not because they "hate themselves", or are"cucks" or are "race traitors", or have been "duped by Jews".
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  111. @Corvinus
    "There is no such thing as white privilege. The heterosexual white man experiences the most blatant, unremitting, unconstitutional discrimination out there today, in every aspect of our culture — the law, the public sector, the private sector, the media, advertising, and popular culture."

    White victimhood, it is. Put that on a bumper sticker, or a baseball cap, and you have a million dollar idea. Perhaps we will see you in a future episode of Shark Tank?

    I feel you, bro; I pour scorn on lachrymose Jewish and Black narratives. Difference being, I’m fighting a couple of elephants, and you’re fighting a mouse. To each man, challenges according to his abilities?

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    "Difference being, I’m fighting a couple of elephants, and you’re fighting a mouse."

    Actually, we are both fighting elephants. You just outright refuse to believe it.
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  112. @Anonymous
    There are pro-white outfits. They are just wildly underfunded, considered evil and stupid, and to be completely honest there IS something wrong with a good proportion of their membership, even the ones that are not FBI/BATFE/$PLC/ADL plants.

    Something that becomes less true with every good person that joins up…

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  113. @anonymous
    He was always excessively proud of fighting the 'Religious Right' (i.e. Christians) and their desire to censor things.

    He isn't going to tackle todays leftist censors (who are 100% more powerful and aggressive) because he's smart enough to know it's a battle he won't win. The new power is far less tolerant than the essentially powerless Christian punching bags of old.

    Leftism is all about the sanctified bullying. Pick on toothless groups like White Christians, White gentile heterosexual men, rednecks, etc. Avoid the 300 lb gorillas like Jewry, the pro-Black contingent, oligarchs, etc.

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  114. @Corvinus
    "Jews are an ethnic group–when it suits them to be. Jews are a race –when it suits them to be. Jews are a religion–when it suits them."

    For ALL Jews? Or is it just for those hardcore Jews who are concerned about American secular Jews who, within a few generations, will lose their Jewishness. Some Jews claim that Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture.

    So perhaps it is only a certain segment of the Jewish population that does things when it suits them.

    “Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture.”

    That’s not a bad thing.

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    I doubt it. It certainly isn't the case in Germany. You're not likely to get this in the German or Anglo MSM, but if you can read Spanish, they're not too shy about it at La Nación (think NYT and WaPo all rolled up into one) in Costa Rica.

    https://es-us.noticias.yahoo.com/agresi%C3%B3n-racista-musulm%C3%A1n-jud%C3%ADo-alemania-112200418.html

    Reader comments at La Nación are instructive.
    , @Svigor
    Trouble is, we've seen Lucy hold this football before.
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  115. Please capitalize “White” in all future posts.

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  116. @Lot
    "Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture."

    That's not a bad thing.

    I doubt it. It certainly isn’t the case in Germany. You’re not likely to get this in the German or Anglo MSM, but if you can read Spanish, they’re not too shy about it at La Nación (think NYT and WaPo all rolled up into one) in Costa Rica.

    https://es-us.noticias.yahoo.com/agresi%C3%B3n-racista-musulm%C3%A1n-jud%C3%ADo-alemania-112200418.html

    Reader comments at La Nación are instructive.

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    I meant American as in USA.

    I did read the comments in the Spanish article about the Arab street violence in Germany, I didn't seem any different than what you'd see in the USA in a similar article, about a third saying "What about the Palestinians!?!" and another third bemoaning the stupidity of Germans for allow mass Muslim migration.

    The best comment was:

    Viva el pueblo de Israel
     
    The Latin American educated left tends to be very anti-Israel while at the same time prizing the small number of local Jews, who tended to come around 1900 and immediately intermarry with the existing Latin American urban elite, and then stay elite in later generations, producing a ton of 1/8 Jews in the upper classes.
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  117. @Anonymous
    Whites know about Jewish Privilege, they are just too cowed to say anything about it, unless they are crazy or have nothing to lose.

    Whites know about Jewish Privilege, they are just too cowed to say anything about it, unless they are crazy or have nothing to lose.

    Plenty of the Norman, Flemish, French, Bretons and other soldiers that went over to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 were crazy AND had nothing to lose. Their descendants are still around, both in England, Canada, United States, Australia and other nations.

    All you have to do is give a speech in public where you say that the warmongering Neo-Conservatives have hijacked the foreign policy of the GOP ruling class. You have to directly say that the Neo-Conservative faction of the GOP is controlled by the Jews. They’ll retort something about Bush and Cheney being WASPs, but then you should retort that they’re treasonous WASP whores for the Jew Neo-Conservatives. The GOP faction that still loves Cheney and Bush is dwindling to nothing.

    You might also go big balls to impress the young White Core Americans by saying that Shelly Adelson has too much control of the GOP, especially on immigration policy and foreign policy as it relates to the Middle East and Israel.

    When the rats call you an anti-Semite, tell the rats to go to hell. Drink a cold beer and tell the rats to go to hell.

    The WASP / Jew ruling class of the American Empire is about to be pushed off a cliff.

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  118. @Anonym
    It's not so amazing. She was 92 and her death was expected due to ill health. And this.

    https://youtu.be/8MhdHCHjInY

    If Barbara had only answered the right way, maybe Jeb would have got the nom? He coulda been a contendah!

    Nobody loves Jebby Bush but his momma, and she was jiving him too.

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  119. In my general impression, white privilege and Jewish privilege are fairly comparable in causes, magnitude, as well as quantity and quality of evidence for their existence.

    You could say the same for “Asian privilege” or even more so, say “Indian privilege”–last i saw in one of those Pew surveys “Hindu” is the highest income religious category in the US.

    The real problem underlying the “privilege gap” isn’t the Jews hiding their privilege, it’s the Jews successful promotion of this nasty minoritarian ideology–minorities are good majorities are bad.

    This is just nasty, hateful, evil ideology–and one of endless division and conflict.

    The reasonable and moral ideology is the reverse: Majorities are entitled to run their nations with *their* language, culture, traditions, mores, values and people ascendant. Minorities should be treated with tolerance. But should either integrate, or accomodate themselves to the majority’s culture and rule or–if the gap is too wide or really desiring preservation–separate themselves into autonomous communties, or separate themselves into a separate nation.

    This can–under mature, intelligent, responsible, republican governance–all be discussed and dealt with honestly and tolerantly. But this ideology of “bad majority” is ideology of hatred and conflict with all the intellectual heft of petulant child’s temper tantrum.

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    But should either integrate, or accomodate themselves to the majority’s culture and rule or–if the gap is too wide or really desiring preservation–separate themselves into autonomous communties, or separate themselves into a separate nation.

    Do they really have a moral right to separate themselves into separate autonomous communities or nation-states?

    , @Mr. Anon
    Well said.
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  120. @Lot
    "Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture."

    That's not a bad thing.

    Trouble is, we’ve seen Lucy hold this football before.

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  121. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    In my general impression, white privilege and Jewish privilege are fairly comparable in causes, magnitude, as well as quantity and quality of evidence for their existence.
     
    You could say the same for "Asian privilege" or even more so, say "Indian privilege"--last i saw in one of those Pew surveys "Hindu" is the highest income religious category in the US.


    The real problem underlying the "privilege gap" isn't the Jews hiding their privilege, it's the Jews successful promotion of this nasty minoritarian ideology--minorities are good majorities are bad.

    This is just nasty, hateful, evil ideology--and one of endless division and conflict.

    The reasonable and moral ideology is the reverse: Majorities are entitled to run their nations with *their* language, culture, traditions, mores, values and people ascendant. Minorities should be treated with tolerance. But should either integrate, or accomodate themselves to the majority's culture and rule or--if the gap is too wide or really desiring preservation--separate themselves into autonomous communties, or separate themselves into a separate nation.

    This can--under mature, intelligent, responsible, republican governance--all be discussed and dealt with honestly and tolerantly. But this ideology of "bad majority" is ideology of hatred and conflict with all the intellectual heft of petulant child's temper tantrum.

    But should either integrate, or accomodate themselves to the majority’s culture and rule or–if the gap is too wide or really desiring preservation–separate themselves into autonomous communties, or separate themselves into a separate nation.

    Do they really have a moral right to separate themselves into separate autonomous communities or nation-states?

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  122. OFF TOPIC — ALL THINGS JEBBY BUSH

    Immigration is what destroyed Jebby Bush in the 2016 GOP presidential primary.

    BUT,

    Jebby Bush had low energy because Jebby was going paleo diet and he had no energy. Jebby was selling crud with low energy; hard to do that.

    Tweet from 2015:

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  123. @Thea
    Surely there are more attractive, interesting and talented Jewish women out there than Schumer. Why her?

    Her skit show “Inside Amy Schumer” was good, but that’s likely due to the writers she hired and the many jokes and premises she and they stole.

    Her previous stand-up persona “slutty Republican chick” was mildly funny, but belongs to a different decade.

    She was swept up in a trend: sudden demand for woman comedy following the successes of Mean Girls and Bridesmaids.

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  124. @JohnnyWalker123
    On Tuesday, Barbara Bush died.

    On Wednesday, her son Jeb Bush gave a speech at Elmhurst College. In his speech, Jeb Bush denounced Trump for creating a climate of political incivility.

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/04/20/jeb-bush-voters-stop-rewarding-reality-tv-racist-language-bad-behavior/

    Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL) called on voters to stop rewarding politicians who used derogatory characterizations “to make themselves look better.”

    Bush said, “Here is the dirty secret, politics is embedded in our culture. We are our culture. The interaction of all of us together defines our culture and our culture is more vulgar then it once was. Our culture allows people to act in ways that thirty years ago would never be allowed in politics. Our culture is more reality TV based, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that our politics is that way.”

    He added, “Voters should penalize rather than reward politicians, irrespective of their party, that use racist language or call people Nazis or disparage the disabled or make fun of people in order to push someone down to make themselves look better. That should be a penalty. You should be in a penalty box rather than getting rewards for that.”

    After telling a story about Trump calling him a name during the 2016 campaign, Bush continued, “The first step is to change the language around political discourse and get it back to something at your own kitchen table you could tolerate. At least in my kitchen table, I could promise you if I talked like the people I hear on television today talk, my mother would have gotten her board out and whipped my butt, which she did occasionally.”
     
    It's amazing that the day after his mother died, Jeb Bush gave a speech on politics. You would think he'd be grieving her death. At a minimum, you'd think he'd keep his mouth shut for a while and pretend to mourn his mother.

    It probably took Jeb Bush a few days to write and practice the speech. So in all likelihood, during his mother's last days on the earth (and perhaps even on the day that she died), he was preparing for a speech.

    Utterly amazing.

    The first thing Jeb! would have done as president would be to amnesty all illegals. I’d rather take my chances with the Democrats than him.

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    If it was between Biden and Jeb, I'd go with Biden. At least Biden has shown signs of being a race realist, however mininimal.
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  125. @Anonymous
    There are pro-white outfits. They are just wildly underfunded, considered evil and stupid, and to be completely honest there IS something wrong with a good proportion of their membership, even the ones that are not FBI/BATFE/$PLC/ADL plants.

    There are pro-white outfits. They are just wildly underfunded, considered evil and stupid, and to be completely honest there IS something wrong with a good proportion of their membership, even the ones that are not FBI/BATFE/$PLC/ADL plants.

    I never thought of Rotary International that way, but you may be right.

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  126. OFF TOPIC — JEBBY BUSH CONTINUED

    Most political experts agree that I ended Jebby Bush’s campaign for president in April of 2015 at a town hall event. The only political experts who disagree work for the Koch boys, and they’re full of crap anyways.

    Modesty is overrated as a virtue in politics, as we have discovered as Trumpy pounded everybody immodestly. God bless Trumpy and his lack of modesty.

    Tweet from 2015:

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  127. @Mishra
    The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice 'ethnic nepotism' everywhere they go is--to put it kindly--laughable. The idea that significant numbers of white people practice supremacist behaviour--much less even maintain a consciousness of such--is principally the stuff of MSM, television and movie entertainment. The vast majority of which is produced by....hmm, who could it be now?

    Please tell me the echelons of American institutions, professions, business, education, media, and so on where 'gentile' white people are wildly over-represented. I'll be waiting. When you've given up on that task, try this one: discover the average wealth of Jewish households in America. Not income; wealth. Don't hold your breath, though, because I care about your health.

    Of course, if I really cared about your health I wouldn't even set you about the task. Not only is it cruelly futile, but you can get in serious trouble in our society asking questions like these. Stay safe: move on to the next post. See? I do care.

    “The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice ‘ethnic nepotism’ everywhere they go is–to put it kindly–laughable.” Presumably, you are implying that it is a fact that jews are obsessively tribalistic and practice ‘ethnic nepotism’ everywhere they go. Everywhere and in America too. I know I am prejudiced but if true how come I an 84 yr old jew have never seen a hair of evidence for it in real life, neither on E 38th st in Brooklyn growing up, or in future years interacting with many other jews in college and afterwards? Do you really imagine that ambitious jews jockeying for supremacy in any field behave nepotistically to other jews?

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    I think that a significant number of Jews have operated with a reduced overburden required for maintenance of the general mores of American society, e.g. trust, honesty, altruism, tolerance; and so have been able to streamline and rise quickly. Also in general, when in a position to hire or choose supporters or colleagues, their choice will favor those who have similar streamlined principles, whether Jewish or not. In fact these choices are likely to be disproportionately Jewish, simply because the majority of the population still chooses to adopt personal mores that support the historical mores of the society, especially honesty and trust. It is probably rare to find a Jew who hires or recommends only Jews, but I think it is probably not at all rare to find a Jew who hires or recommends based on sympathetic values, which likely diverge from the traditional values. This may not be nepotism in the pure sense, but is produces similar, though somewhat degraded results.
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  128. I love that nut Ann Coulter even more now that I know she has Tennessee ancestry and German ancestry.

    Ann Coulter gets the retweets going pretty good:

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  129. @Svigor

    You seem to be missing Sailer’s point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.
     
    You just described why Jewish Privilege isn't a bogus term.

    You just described why Jewish Privilege isn’t a bogus term.

    Exactly. The privilege to never be criticized is about as big a privilege as exists.

    If Voltaire* was Jewish he might have written, “I disapprove of what you say, and I will defend to the death my privilege to prevent you saying it.” [* Misattributed, I know]

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  130. @Thirdeye
    "To find out who has the power, look at who you can't criticize." (may be a paraphrase)

    Voltaire methinks.

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  131. @Anonymous
    Society: White privilege is real. Jews are a poor and persecuted minority.
    Steve: White privilege and Jewish privilege are both fake.
    Reality?: Jewish privilege is real. White privilege is fake.

    Steve: White privilege and Jewish privilege are both fake.

    I don’t think that was really the main purport of this post though.

    It depends how you interpret this sentence: “If you feel the urge to tell us about White Privilege, try substituting into your text the term “Jewish Privilege” and then decide if you feel as confident about your arguments.”

    Obviously some people who drone on about ‘white privilege’ would recoil at the implications of talking about Jewish privilege and might decide to stop talking about ‘white privilege’ as a result. Others, though, might decide that Jewish privilege needs to highlighted more often.

    It’s not a bad ploy for whites to insist that Jewish privilege also be discussed. The reason is that it’s not so much about discussing ‘privileges’ as it as about the right to criticize. From that standpoint, whites have already been criticized as much as is humanly possible. Jews have not. So whites have a great deal more to gain, relatively, from calling for all privileges to be openly discussed.

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    Do you count the irrational and obsessive criticism of Israel by many on the American left and throughout the world as criticism of Jews?
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  132. @Steve Sailer
    I drove through Wilshire CC today. Lots and lots of sand traps visible from the street. I don't recall that you could see into the course before. Maybe they took the hedges down when they fixed up the course a few years ago.

    OFF TOPIC

    Ann Coulter retweeted that chart or graph about this or that ‘privilege’ because you let the chart or graph do the talking. Very clever.

    Who can forget the great fun it was when Coulter got exasperated about the Middle East foreign policy focus at a GOP presidential debate and she wondered just how many of them there are in this country.

    It’s really about the evangelical vote and the billionaire loot that the whores in the GOP do the bidding of the Neo-Conservative faction.

    Trumpy and his pal Shinzo Abe ate cheeseburgers after playing golf at Trumpy’s golf course. Trumpy should tell his new pal Shinzo that plenty of Americans want the US military to be redeployed out of Japan and South Korea. Concentrate his mind while he’s munching on his Trump cheeseburger.

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  133. anonymous[381] • Disclaimer says:

    We know that the Forbes list of the 400 wealthiest Americans reflects a disproportionate number who are Jewish but–is there a way of quantifying how much of the TOTAL wealth of the United States of America is controlled by Jews? Or is this information “off limits.”

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    We know that the Forbes list of the 400 wealthiest Americans reflects a disproportionate number who are Jewish but–is there a way of quantifying how much of the TOTAL wealth of the United States of America is controlled by Jews? Or is this information “off limits.”
     
    Well, the Jews who matter in this regard have made sure that is not easy to determine, but offhand, I'd say they effectively control an enormous percentage of it. How much they actually own outright is equally opaque but is certainly less than they effectively control, but might be between 30 and 50 percent, and maybe more.

    Having said that-I have seen many, many cases of "penny wise and pound foolish" from Jewish businesses. I was in electronics a long time and worked for Jewish owned transformer winding plants, contract board houses, retail musical instrument stores and high end audio retailers. I saw some appalling bad judgment from supposedly financially savvy Jewish management and ownership. In some cases they succeed despite themselves and in some cases ethnocentric networking helps them out when they would otherwise have foundered. Jews are not infallible, not omniscient, and not omnipotent.

    I have also seen some good judgment and some instances of them doing kind things for non-Jews even when there was no benefit in it for them. I had no particular dislike for them as a group although a couple of them as individuals really pissed me off. But there is a difference between them and the generic white American owned business and it isn't wrong to Notice as far as I can see.
    , @Joekoool102
    Well you could check out the banking industry, starting with the Fed. But don't expect the media to tell you.
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  134. @Corvinus
    "Jews are an ethnic group–when it suits them to be. Jews are a race –when it suits them to be. Jews are a religion–when it suits them."

    For ALL Jews? Or is it just for those hardcore Jews who are concerned about American secular Jews who, within a few generations, will lose their Jewishness. Some Jews claim that Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture.

    So perhaps it is only a certain segment of the Jewish population that does things when it suits them.

    Some Jews claim that Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture.

    Some Jews have been claiming that their identity has been dissolving in whatever surrounding culture they found themselves in for approximately 5,000 years. And yet they are still an identifiable, relatively cohesive group today. I don’t think they’re going away anytime soon.

    So perhaps it is only a certain segment of the Jewish population that does things when it suits them.

    So perhaps it is only that certain segment that we’re talking about. But it isn’t like that certain segment simply doesn’t exist, is it?

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    I dunno. Will Zuckerberg's children think of themselves as Jewish? How about Clinton, Kennedy, and Trump grandchildren? Some of the Rothschild, Schiff, and Sulzberger heirs are not Jewish.
    , @Corvinus
    "So perhaps it is only that certain segment that we’re talking about. But it isn’t like that certain segment simply doesn’t exist, is it?"

    Of course that segment, the elitist segment, exists. Like ANY racial or ethnic group. It's just, to me, overstated regarding how Jews either as entire group or for the supermajority of them are trying to "impose their will" upon others.

    No different than the SJW's or the Alt Right elitists with their agenda.
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  135. @Obsessive Contrarian
    "The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice ‘ethnic nepotism’ everywhere they go is–to put it kindly–laughable."

    The idea that Jews get jobs based on ethnic nepotism is laughable. Especially Jews from State U.

    That the Jewish Establishment exists and throws its weight to censor ideas and promote others, not laughable. I think that's what this post is about.

    The idea that Jews get jobs based on ethnic nepotism is laughable. Especially Jews from State U.

    If it is especially laughable for those from State U., then it is less laughable for those from elsewhere.

    You can baldly assert that there is no ethnic nepotism at work, but even a casual observation of certain areas tends to belie it. Ron Unz has made a good case that there is considerable ethnic nepotism among Jews at the Ivys. And it appears to exist elsewhere as well. Hollywood, for example? Or do you really think that there was a vast pent-up demand for something like Lena Dunham or Seth Rogan that just had to be satisfied somehow?

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    Guess what genius, not all Jews work in show biz. I never found that my degree from State U or my ethnic background got me much of a leg up in life. Having blue eyes helped much more. No joke. Any woman with blue eyes knows exactly how much to flash those baby blues. It's like tossing blonde hair.

    Casual observations can also be sloppy. Greg Cochran eviscerated Unz.

    If you are a Jewish kid who goes to an Ivy, you've got a pretty smooth path in life unless you work to fuck it up, granted, but that has more to do with the whole package, and not the Jewish part. If you are a Jewish kid who goes to State U, that's different.

    I know that this will make no impression on an idiot loser like you, just saying. For the record.
    , @Anon 2
    On nepotism there is no better source than the book "In Praise of
    Nepotism" (2003) written by Adam Bellow, the son of the Jewish
    writer Saul Bellow. His article "In Praise of Nepotism," published
    in The Atlantic, is also quite revelatory. He says we live in the Golden
    Age of Nepotism, esp. in Hollywood, television, publishing, and
    politics. He admits that he himself got a cushy job in publishing
    through good, old-fashioned nepotism, essentially through the
    neocon family network.
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  136. @AnotherDad

    In my general impression, white privilege and Jewish privilege are fairly comparable in causes, magnitude, as well as quantity and quality of evidence for their existence.
     
    You could say the same for "Asian privilege" or even more so, say "Indian privilege"--last i saw in one of those Pew surveys "Hindu" is the highest income religious category in the US.


    The real problem underlying the "privilege gap" isn't the Jews hiding their privilege, it's the Jews successful promotion of this nasty minoritarian ideology--minorities are good majorities are bad.

    This is just nasty, hateful, evil ideology--and one of endless division and conflict.

    The reasonable and moral ideology is the reverse: Majorities are entitled to run their nations with *their* language, culture, traditions, mores, values and people ascendant. Minorities should be treated with tolerance. But should either integrate, or accomodate themselves to the majority's culture and rule or--if the gap is too wide or really desiring preservation--separate themselves into autonomous communties, or separate themselves into a separate nation.

    This can--under mature, intelligent, responsible, republican governance--all be discussed and dealt with honestly and tolerantly. But this ideology of "bad majority" is ideology of hatred and conflict with all the intellectual heft of petulant child's temper tantrum.

    Well said.

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  137. Meanwhile in France:

    Why is the media shamefully silent over 11 assassinations fueled by anti-semitism and about Jews having to move because they feel no longer safe in their neighborhood?

    “French Jews are 25 times more at risk of being attacked than their fellow Muslim citizens.”

    French celebrities call for ‘fight against anti-Semitism’ before ‘it’s too late’

    I wonder when it is too late?

    Do we have to conclude that French Jewish victims of radical Islamists are the most important?

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  138. Anonymous[298] • Disclaimer says:

    Read David Mamet’s “The Wicked Son.” Pre-industrialization Jewish culture was monomaniacally concerned with reverse membership drives and finding new pretexts for lighting up Meatheads in the family over perfidy/slacking. It really isn’t so far afield of the Amy Chua technique, actually.

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    reverse membership drives

    What is a reverse membership drive?

    lighting up Meatheads in the family over perfidy/slacking.

    What does this mean?
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  139. @Anon
    One of the funny aspects of the Sam Harris-Ezra Klein podcast, once your ears stopped ringing from Ezra's girlie vocal fry, was how Ezra kept referring to them as two white guys who shouldn't be talking for blacks, when Ezra is Jewish, and Harris mentioned he was half Ashkenazi at one point (noticed for the first time just now that Ashkenazi contains the string "nazi").

    (noticed for the first time just now that Ashkenazi contains the string “nazi”).

    What kind of Nazi wants to limit your rights to free speech? An Ashke Nazi.

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  140. Gee – is it true that rabbis claim privilege for Jews over all of humanity?

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  141. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2
    I don't find him funny but he's most famous for writing and singing a pop song that was a UK number 1 in 1996 and later again in 1998! It also returned to the charts in five more seperate years including as late as 2014.

    That is an extraordinary achievement for a song.

    It’s “thanks” to Baddiel that I first heard about felching

    Jews seem to have a strange obsession with that part of the human anatomy. I don’t know what’s (ahem) behind it.

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    It's now thanks to you that I know it. What accounts for your strange obsession with Jewish posteriors?
    , @Brutusale
    Nobody is more interested in things scatological than the Germans.
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  142. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    There are pro-white outfits. They are just wildly underfunded, considered evil and stupid, and to be completely honest there IS something wrong with a good proportion of their membership, even the ones that are not FBI/BATFE/$PLC/ADL plants.

    Yes, Thomm is right about this. Dysfunctional white guys, who screw up at life and alienate normal people, wind up in “pro-white” groups because the bar for entry into these outfits is so low – white skin and you’re in. Nowhere else will take them.

    They remain dysfunctional though, and will wreck any movement that lets them become too numerous, because they cause social drama wildly out of proportion to their numbers. They’re more interested in the movement than the cause. Schoolyard ingroup/outgroup status feuds are what really excite them, and they’ll happily destroy a successful movement over petty personal bullshit. Nothing takes priority over their own personal validation.

    TL;DR – Stay away from losers and don’t let them into your club

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    TL;DR – Stay away from losers and don’t let them into your club
     
    That's why we've blackballed Thomm.
    , @grapesoda
    There's something wrong with weak people who like to take passive aggressive little shots under "anonymous." What's the matter, you're afraid we'd uncover your tribal motivations if you picked a consistent screen name so we could analyze the pattern of your posts? For all we know you could be an ADL or Media Matters paid troll, or a brainwashed NYT-reading leftist.
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  143. @Dave Pinsen
    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.

    “Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic”

    that’s a stretch

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  144. OT: A supplement called Tru Niagen (NR), NAD+ booster, is #1 at Amazon
    in Health! ChromoDex (Irvine, CA) must be making a fortune. Who knows,
    this may be the anti-aging breakthrough that people have been waiting for.

    The Baby Boom generation to which I belong (along with Bill Clinton, Bush II,
    and Trump – all born in 1946 within a couple of months of each other (astrologers
    must be scratching their heads)) has been so lucky. Just as its sexual vigor
    (JFK, as I recall, loved the word ‘vigor,’ – some of us know why) was waning in the ’90s,
    it got Viagra. Now, as it’s getting ready to enjoy its golden years, it got nicotinamide
    riboside (NR) which is supposed to be a tremendous energy booster. In
    other words, instead of frequent naps, men will have the energy to start
    chasing girls again, except that the girls may object to being chased
    by grandpas! Back in the ’60s the standard lament we heard from older
    comedians like Bob Hope was that Sexual Revolution got underway just
    as they were running out of ammunition. Now it’s the opposite – the
    Baby Boomers who enjoyed the Sexual Revolution in the ’60s-’70s seem
    always to be in sync with the Cosmic Zeitgeist, always riding the crest
    of the wave! Speaking of privilege, the Baby Boomers seem truly the most
    privileged generation

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    You just had to rub it in, didn't you?

    While we're on the subject of intergenerational conflict, am I the only one who hates the word millennial? I completely disavow any claim to that descriptor.

    The other day I was reading an article (full of drivel) about David Hogg and his merry mob of marching millennials, and I kept wanting to scream, "He's not a millennial! He's a Zer!"

    Hogg was born in 2000. When he was in his mother's womb, I was in high school. But somehow we're considered part of the same generation. Does this seem reasonable to anyone else?

    (Recently, the Pew Research Center announced that the definitive cutoff dates for "millennial" are 1981-1996.)
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  145. @Mr. Anon

    Some Jews claim that Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture.
     
    Some Jews have been claiming that their identity has been dissolving in whatever surrounding culture they found themselves in for approximately 5,000 years. And yet they are still an identifiable, relatively cohesive group today. I don't think they're going away anytime soon.

    So perhaps it is only a certain segment of the Jewish population that does things when it suits them.
     
    So perhaps it is only that certain segment that we're talking about. But it isn't like that certain segment simply doesn't exist, is it?

    I dunno. Will Zuckerberg’s children think of themselves as Jewish? How about Clinton, Kennedy, and Trump grandchildren? Some of the Rothschild, Schiff, and Sulzberger heirs are not Jewish.

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    I dunno. Will Zuckerberg’s children think of themselves as Jewish? How about Clinton, Kennedy, and Trump grandchildren? Some of the Rothschild, Schiff, and Sulzberger heirs are not Jewish.
     
    Maybe, maybe not. But there will be plenty of replacements. The jewish people have a large bull-pen in the orthodox and ultra-orthodox. Some fraction of them are always becoming secular but still self-consciously tribal, even as others stop self-identifying.
    , @ben tillman

    I dunno. Will Zuckerberg’s children think of themselves as Jewish? How about Clinton, Kennedy, and Trump grandchildren? Some of the Rothschild, Schiff, and Sulzberger heirs are not Jewish.
     
    Certainly not in any meaningful sense.
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  146. For those interested in the ratio of Jewish privilege to white privilege references over time, see:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nHlB6dfAdoSVfYJPP6I7qOhyCWS7s2MaDTA560i9U8U/edit?usp=sharing

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  147. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:

    is there a way of quantifying how much of the TOTAL wealth of the United States of America is controlled by Jews?

    Including major wealth management firms like BlackRock or Soros or Icahn’s businesses? It’s huge. The wealth they control is even much greater than the wealth they own, because they manage much of the money of wealthy gentiles and gentile institutions. Hence, Carl Icahn can buy up a bunch of stock in the world’s largest corporation (Apple) and coerce its CEO to sit down with him and take his “advice” about stock buybacks, or whatever.

    Essentially, any publicly traded company could have its stock bought up by a major Jewish run hedge fund (and they’re mostly Jewish) and the CEO would be at his mercy.

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  148. @Flip
    The first thing Jeb! would have done as president would be to amnesty all illegals. I'd rather take my chances with the Democrats than him.

    If it was between Biden and Jeb, I’d go with Biden. At least Biden has shown signs of being a race realist, however mininimal.

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  149. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    We know that the Forbes list of the 400 wealthiest Americans reflects a disproportionate number who are Jewish but--is there a way of quantifying how much of the TOTAL wealth of the United States of America is controlled by Jews? Or is this information "off limits."

    We know that the Forbes list of the 400 wealthiest Americans reflects a disproportionate number who are Jewish but–is there a way of quantifying how much of the TOTAL wealth of the United States of America is controlled by Jews? Or is this information “off limits.”

    Well, the Jews who matter in this regard have made sure that is not easy to determine, but offhand, I’d say they effectively control an enormous percentage of it. How much they actually own outright is equally opaque but is certainly less than they effectively control, but might be between 30 and 50 percent, and maybe more.

    Having said that-I have seen many, many cases of “penny wise and pound foolish” from Jewish businesses. I was in electronics a long time and worked for Jewish owned transformer winding plants, contract board houses, retail musical instrument stores and high end audio retailers. I saw some appalling bad judgment from supposedly financially savvy Jewish management and ownership. In some cases they succeed despite themselves and in some cases ethnocentric networking helps them out when they would otherwise have foundered. Jews are not infallible, not omniscient, and not omnipotent.

    I have also seen some good judgment and some instances of them doing kind things for non-Jews even when there was no benefit in it for them. I had no particular dislike for them as a group although a couple of them as individuals really pissed me off. But there is a difference between them and the generic white American owned business and it isn’t wrong to Notice as far as I can see.

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    Well, the Jews who matter in this regard have made sure that is not easy to determine, but offhand, I’d say they effectively control an enormous percentage of it. How much they actually own outright is equally opaque but is certainly less than they effectively control, but might be between 30 and 50 percent, and maybe more.

    And let's not forget they control the weather, The Weather!! Nice business you got there; Be a shame if it was carried off by a tornado....
    , @Anonymous
    But there is a difference between them and the generic white American owned business and it isn’t wrong to Notice as far as I can see.

    What would that difference be?
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  150. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:

    I’d guess that Jews “own” about 30% of the wealth in the United States (maybe more) and that they “control” over 45%. Not all wealth is equal in the power it enables you to exert, however. $1 billion invested in media (or politician bribery) gives you much more power than $1 billion invested in mining companies. Owning $1 billion worth of class B voting shares in Comcast, the class that Brian Roberts owns, gives you much more power than owning $1 billion of the class A shares. Jewish wealth tends to be concentrated in the institutions that give them the most political power, like media. Furthermore, they also leverage the wealth of Gentiles through their domination of wealth management firms.

    Jews are also organized for their own interests in a way that whites are not. If there were an “anti-Israel”, “anti-Semitic” or “racist” CEO of a major publicly traded company, Jewish media and wealth management firms would doubtless work to have him removed. An “anti-white” or “anti-traditional-values” CEO would be lauded.

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    Jews own about 30% of global wealth, you need to remember that the sheer volume of white billionaires and asian billionaires outpaces the enormous individual fortunes and cliques of jews pooling wealth by many times. There's only so much one can leverage from managing another person's money, to claim that money managers are getting one over on mega billionaire whites seems a bit daft, and like peasants' wisdom
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  151. @Rosamond Vincy
    Try selecting by the month or the year, then go back to ALL COMMENTS. Seems to help reset.

    Thanks Rosamund. I can see my most recent comments if I select “2018” or “April 2018,” but if I click on my name in a thread, the url “www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Jenner+Ickham+Errican” has my posts stalled at April 18th, ending with this one. I’ve confirmed this on two different devices. It doesn’t seem to be the case with other handles I’ve checked.

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  152. Not quite the right comparison, for two reasons. First, when progressives say “white privilege,” they are including Jews. Second, to the extent the term “white privilege” basically means “‘Shut up,’ he explained” in the progressive lexicon, they have an equivalent term for Jews – it just isn’t “Jewish privilege.” When they want to tell a Jew to shut up, they call him a Zionist.

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  153. @Anonymous

    We know that the Forbes list of the 400 wealthiest Americans reflects a disproportionate number who are Jewish but–is there a way of quantifying how much of the TOTAL wealth of the United States of America is controlled by Jews? Or is this information “off limits.”
     
    Well, the Jews who matter in this regard have made sure that is not easy to determine, but offhand, I'd say they effectively control an enormous percentage of it. How much they actually own outright is equally opaque but is certainly less than they effectively control, but might be between 30 and 50 percent, and maybe more.

    Having said that-I have seen many, many cases of "penny wise and pound foolish" from Jewish businesses. I was in electronics a long time and worked for Jewish owned transformer winding plants, contract board houses, retail musical instrument stores and high end audio retailers. I saw some appalling bad judgment from supposedly financially savvy Jewish management and ownership. In some cases they succeed despite themselves and in some cases ethnocentric networking helps them out when they would otherwise have foundered. Jews are not infallible, not omniscient, and not omnipotent.

    I have also seen some good judgment and some instances of them doing kind things for non-Jews even when there was no benefit in it for them. I had no particular dislike for them as a group although a couple of them as individuals really pissed me off. But there is a difference between them and the generic white American owned business and it isn't wrong to Notice as far as I can see.

    Well, the Jews who matter in this regard have made sure that is not easy to determine, but offhand, I’d say they effectively control an enormous percentage of it. How much they actually own outright is equally opaque but is certainly less than they effectively control, but might be between 30 and 50 percent, and maybe more.

    And let’s not forget they control the weather, The Weather!! Nice business you got there; Be a shame if it was carried off by a tornado….

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  154. The war on poor/middle class by the rich (privileged) is color blind.

    The rich put this “white privilege” shtick out there to keep the black, white, brown slaves fighting/blaming each other, to take the focus off of themselves. No different than the “black welfare queen” shtick for the whites, while the corporate welfare gravy train keeps on rolling, Israel getting their multi-billion dollar welfare check.

    Keep fighting amongst yourselves though slaves, that’ll change the world. Dumb goyim.

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  155. @Anon 2
    OT: A supplement called Tru Niagen (NR), NAD+ booster, is #1 at Amazon
    in Health! ChromoDex (Irvine, CA) must be making a fortune. Who knows,
    this may be the anti-aging breakthrough that people have been waiting for.

    The Baby Boom generation to which I belong (along with Bill Clinton, Bush II,
    and Trump - all born in 1946 within a couple of months of each other (astrologers
    must be scratching their heads)) has been so lucky. Just as its sexual vigor
    (JFK, as I recall, loved the word 'vigor,' - some of us know why) was waning in the '90s,
    it got Viagra. Now, as it's getting ready to enjoy its golden years, it got nicotinamide
    riboside (NR) which is supposed to be a tremendous energy booster. In
    other words, instead of frequent naps, men will have the energy to start
    chasing girls again, except that the girls may object to being chased
    by grandpas! Back in the '60s the standard lament we heard from older
    comedians like Bob Hope was that Sexual Revolution got underway just
    as they were running out of ammunition. Now it's the opposite - the
    Baby Boomers who enjoyed the Sexual Revolution in the '60s-'70s seem
    always to be in sync with the Cosmic Zeitgeist, always riding the crest
    of the wave! Speaking of privilege, the Baby Boomers seem truly the most
    privileged generation

    You just had to rub it in, didn’t you?

    While we’re on the subject of intergenerational conflict, am I the only one who hates the word millennial? I completely disavow any claim to that descriptor.

    The other day I was reading an article (full of drivel) about David Hogg and his merry mob of marching millennials, and I kept wanting to scream, “He’s not a millennial! He’s a Zer!”

    Hogg was born in 2000. When he was in his mother’s womb, I was in high school. But somehow we’re considered part of the same generation. Does this seem reasonable to anyone else?

    (Recently, the Pew Research Center announced that the definitive cutoff dates for “millennial” are 1981-1996.)

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  156. @Anonymous
    It's "thanks" to Baddiel that I first heard about felching

    Jews seem to have a strange obsession with that part of the human anatomy. I don't know what's (ahem) behind it.

    It’s now thanks to you that I know it. What accounts for your strange obsession with Jewish posteriors?

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  157. @Anonymous
    Whites know about Jewish Privilege, they are just too cowed to say anything about it, unless they are crazy or have nothing to lose.

    Exactly. It will get more difficult to defend “Jewish privilege.” Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. This black/Jewish offspring will be surreal:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5644925/Jeremy-Meeks-father-jail-33-years-murder-young-mother.html

    (((Chloe Green))) Topshop heiress will marry the black Jeremy Meeks.

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  158. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Read David Mamet's "The Wicked Son." Pre-industrialization Jewish culture was monomaniacally concerned with reverse membership drives and finding new pretexts for lighting up Meatheads in the family over perfidy/slacking. It really isn't so far afield of the Amy Chua technique, actually.

    reverse membership drives

    What is a reverse membership drive?

    lighting up Meatheads in the family over perfidy/slacking.

    What does this mean?

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  159. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous


    is there a way of quantifying how much of the TOTAL wealth of the United States of America is controlled by Jews?

     

    Including major wealth management firms like BlackRock or Soros or Icahn's businesses? It's huge. The wealth they control is even much greater than the wealth they own, because they manage much of the money of wealthy gentiles and gentile institutions. Hence, Carl Icahn can buy up a bunch of stock in the world's largest corporation (Apple) and coerce its CEO to sit down with him and take his "advice" about stock buybacks, or whatever.

    Essentially, any publicly traded company could have its stock bought up by a major Jewish run hedge fund (and they're mostly Jewish) and the CEO would be at his mercy.

    Why would a CEO have to listen to a minority shareholder hedge fund?

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  160. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    We know that the Forbes list of the 400 wealthiest Americans reflects a disproportionate number who are Jewish but–is there a way of quantifying how much of the TOTAL wealth of the United States of America is controlled by Jews? Or is this information “off limits.”
     
    Well, the Jews who matter in this regard have made sure that is not easy to determine, but offhand, I'd say they effectively control an enormous percentage of it. How much they actually own outright is equally opaque but is certainly less than they effectively control, but might be between 30 and 50 percent, and maybe more.

    Having said that-I have seen many, many cases of "penny wise and pound foolish" from Jewish businesses. I was in electronics a long time and worked for Jewish owned transformer winding plants, contract board houses, retail musical instrument stores and high end audio retailers. I saw some appalling bad judgment from supposedly financially savvy Jewish management and ownership. In some cases they succeed despite themselves and in some cases ethnocentric networking helps them out when they would otherwise have foundered. Jews are not infallible, not omniscient, and not omnipotent.

    I have also seen some good judgment and some instances of them doing kind things for non-Jews even when there was no benefit in it for them. I had no particular dislike for them as a group although a couple of them as individuals really pissed me off. But there is a difference between them and the generic white American owned business and it isn't wrong to Notice as far as I can see.

    But there is a difference between them and the generic white American owned business and it isn’t wrong to Notice as far as I can see.

    What would that difference be?

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  161. @Flip
    I dunno. Will Zuckerberg's children think of themselves as Jewish? How about Clinton, Kennedy, and Trump grandchildren? Some of the Rothschild, Schiff, and Sulzberger heirs are not Jewish.

    I dunno. Will Zuckerberg’s children think of themselves as Jewish? How about Clinton, Kennedy, and Trump grandchildren? Some of the Rothschild, Schiff, and Sulzberger heirs are not Jewish.

    Maybe, maybe not. But there will be plenty of replacements. The jewish people have a large bull-pen in the orthodox and ultra-orthodox. Some fraction of them are always becoming secular but still self-consciously tribal, even as others stop self-identifying.

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  162. @Anonymous
    Yes, Thomm is right about this. Dysfunctional white guys, who screw up at life and alienate normal people, wind up in "pro-white" groups because the bar for entry into these outfits is so low - white skin and you're in. Nowhere else will take them.

    They remain dysfunctional though, and will wreck any movement that lets them become too numerous, because they cause social drama wildly out of proportion to their numbers. They're more interested in the movement than the cause. Schoolyard ingroup/outgroup status feuds are what really excite them, and they'll happily destroy a successful movement over petty personal bullshit. Nothing takes priority over their own personal validation.

    TL;DR - Stay away from losers and don't let them into your club

    TL;DR – Stay away from losers and don’t let them into your club

    That’s why we’ve blackballed Thomm.

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  163. @Anonymouse
    "The idea that white people are obsessively tribalistic and practice ‘ethnic nepotism’ everywhere they go is–to put it kindly–laughable." Presumably, you are implying that it is a fact that jews are obsessively tribalistic and practice 'ethnic nepotism' everywhere they go. Everywhere and in America too. I know I am prejudiced but if true how come I an 84 yr old jew have never seen a hair of evidence for it in real life, neither on E 38th st in Brooklyn growing up, or in future years interacting with many other jews in college and afterwards? Do you really imagine that ambitious jews jockeying for supremacy in any field behave nepotistically to other jews?

    I think that a significant number of Jews have operated with a reduced overburden required for maintenance of the general mores of American society, e.g. trust, honesty, altruism, tolerance; and so have been able to streamline and rise quickly. Also in general, when in a position to hire or choose supporters or colleagues, their choice will favor those who have similar streamlined principles, whether Jewish or not. In fact these choices are likely to be disproportionately Jewish, simply because the majority of the population still chooses to adopt personal mores that support the historical mores of the society, especially honesty and trust. It is probably rare to find a Jew who hires or recommends only Jews, but I think it is probably not at all rare to find a Jew who hires or recommends based on sympathetic values, which likely diverge from the traditional values. This may not be nepotism in the pure sense, but is produces similar, though somewhat degraded results.

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    The NYC offices I worked in (and this appears to have held true for my friends in law and finance as well) maintained one standard for Chosen employees and another for everyone else. When plum assignments came up, or a promising new position opened, usually only Jews were considered. As mentioned above, Jews did indeed have to compete sometimes for these positions and assignments, but goyim weren't even considered, except once in a great while for window dressing. Everyone knew it, but hardly anyone dared speak of it.

    When hiring outside consultants, a very heavy thumb was placed on the scales when weighing potential collaborators. Now, were firms placing themselves at a competitive disadvantage by thus preferencing their fellow tribalists? Perhaps, but the competition was generally doing the same and moreover, the talent pool in the upper echelons in NYC is so deep that you don't have to stray far from the fairway anyway. Similarly with Ivy League admissions, though more window dressing is called for there because of the degree of visibility.
    , @Jimi Shmendrix
    Impressive how you "cleverly" obfuscate your Judenhass in verbose verbosity.
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  164. @Anonymous
    Yes, Thomm is right about this. Dysfunctional white guys, who screw up at life and alienate normal people, wind up in "pro-white" groups because the bar for entry into these outfits is so low - white skin and you're in. Nowhere else will take them.

    They remain dysfunctional though, and will wreck any movement that lets them become too numerous, because they cause social drama wildly out of proportion to their numbers. They're more interested in the movement than the cause. Schoolyard ingroup/outgroup status feuds are what really excite them, and they'll happily destroy a successful movement over petty personal bullshit. Nothing takes priority over their own personal validation.

    TL;DR - Stay away from losers and don't let them into your club

    There’s something wrong with weak people who like to take passive aggressive little shots under “anonymous.” What’s the matter, you’re afraid we’d uncover your tribal motivations if you picked a consistent screen name so we could analyze the pattern of your posts? For all we know you could be an ADL or Media Matters paid troll, or a brainwashed NYT-reading leftist.

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  165. Anonymous[280] • Disclaimer says:
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    I'd guess that Jews "own" about 30% of the wealth in the United States (maybe more) and that they "control" over 45%. Not all wealth is equal in the power it enables you to exert, however. $1 billion invested in media (or politician bribery) gives you much more power than $1 billion invested in mining companies. Owning $1 billion worth of class B voting shares in Comcast, the class that Brian Roberts owns, gives you much more power than owning $1 billion of the class A shares. Jewish wealth tends to be concentrated in the institutions that give them the most political power, like media. Furthermore, they also leverage the wealth of Gentiles through their domination of wealth management firms.

    Jews are also organized for their own interests in a way that whites are not. If there were an "anti-Israel", "anti-Semitic" or "racist" CEO of a major publicly traded company, Jewish media and wealth management firms would doubtless work to have him removed. An "anti-white" or "anti-traditional-values" CEO would be lauded.

    Jews own about 30% of global wealth, you need to remember that the sheer volume of white billionaires and asian billionaires outpaces the enormous individual fortunes and cliques of jews pooling wealth by many times. There’s only so much one can leverage from managing another person’s money, to claim that money managers are getting one over on mega billionaire whites seems a bit daft, and like peasants’ wisdom

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  166. @Neil Templeton
    I think that a significant number of Jews have operated with a reduced overburden required for maintenance of the general mores of American society, e.g. trust, honesty, altruism, tolerance; and so have been able to streamline and rise quickly. Also in general, when in a position to hire or choose supporters or colleagues, their choice will favor those who have similar streamlined principles, whether Jewish or not. In fact these choices are likely to be disproportionately Jewish, simply because the majority of the population still chooses to adopt personal mores that support the historical mores of the society, especially honesty and trust. It is probably rare to find a Jew who hires or recommends only Jews, but I think it is probably not at all rare to find a Jew who hires or recommends based on sympathetic values, which likely diverge from the traditional values. This may not be nepotism in the pure sense, but is produces similar, though somewhat degraded results.

    The NYC offices I worked in (and this appears to have held true for my friends in law and finance as well) maintained one standard for Chosen employees and another for everyone else. When plum assignments came up, or a promising new position opened, usually only Jews were considered. As mentioned above, Jews did indeed have to compete sometimes for these positions and assignments, but goyim weren’t even considered, except once in a great while for window dressing. Everyone knew it, but hardly anyone dared speak of it.

    When hiring outside consultants, a very heavy thumb was placed on the scales when weighing potential collaborators. Now, were firms placing themselves at a competitive disadvantage by thus preferencing their fellow tribalists? Perhaps, but the competition was generally doing the same and moreover, the talent pool in the upper echelons in NYC is so deep that you don’t have to stray far from the fairway anyway. Similarly with Ivy League admissions, though more window dressing is called for there because of the degree of visibility.

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  167. @Neil Templeton
    I think that a significant number of Jews have operated with a reduced overburden required for maintenance of the general mores of American society, e.g. trust, honesty, altruism, tolerance; and so have been able to streamline and rise quickly. Also in general, when in a position to hire or choose supporters or colleagues, their choice will favor those who have similar streamlined principles, whether Jewish or not. In fact these choices are likely to be disproportionately Jewish, simply because the majority of the population still chooses to adopt personal mores that support the historical mores of the society, especially honesty and trust. It is probably rare to find a Jew who hires or recommends only Jews, but I think it is probably not at all rare to find a Jew who hires or recommends based on sympathetic values, which likely diverge from the traditional values. This may not be nepotism in the pure sense, but is produces similar, though somewhat degraded results.

    Impressive how you “cleverly” obfuscate your Judenhass in verbose verbosity.

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    Not trying to be clever or obscure. Not hating either. Just curious.
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  168. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Hello Ron. OT – Not sure if it’s just me, but my comment history hasn’t been updated since April 18th. I’ve left comments since then, which do show up in the original threads.

    Me too, and not just individuals’ comment histories, but also the “followed commenters” list. I tried going to incognito mode and creating a new “followed commenters” list, which also gets “stuck.”

    This list stops on April 16th:

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=FollowedCommenters_393f6d82bd57132e12a007c9841524e2

    This one stops on April 12th:

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=FollowedCommenters_944ca5eb9ce135b5b731d82d02516299

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    Thanks for letting me know. I'll try to track down and fix these comment archive problems.
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  169. @benjaminl
    Me too, and not just individuals' comment histories, but also the "followed commenters" list. I tried going to incognito mode and creating a new "followed commenters" list, which also gets "stuck."

    This list stops on April 16th:
    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=FollowedCommenters_393f6d82bd57132e12a007c9841524e2

    This one stops on April 12th:
    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=FollowedCommenters_944ca5eb9ce135b5b731d82d02516299

    Thanks for letting me know. I’ll try to track down and fix these comment archive problems.

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    I think you fixed it, I'm seeing this comment page up to date. But there's another problem; replying to you from your comment page autofills the comment form with your data so I would have posted as you if I hadn't noticed.
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  170. @Mr. Anon

    The idea that Jews get jobs based on ethnic nepotism is laughable. Especially Jews from State U.
     
    If it is especially laughable for those from State U., then it is less laughable for those from elsewhere.

    You can baldly assert that there is no ethnic nepotism at work, but even a casual observation of certain areas tends to belie it. Ron Unz has made a good case that there is considerable ethnic nepotism among Jews at the Ivys. And it appears to exist elsewhere as well. Hollywood, for example? Or do you really think that there was a vast pent-up demand for something like Lena Dunham or Seth Rogan that just had to be satisfied somehow?

    Guess what genius, not all Jews work in show biz. I never found that my degree from State U or my ethnic background got me much of a leg up in life. Having blue eyes helped much more. No joke. Any woman with blue eyes knows exactly how much to flash those baby blues. It’s like tossing blonde hair.

    Casual observations can also be sloppy. Greg Cochran eviscerated Unz.

    If you are a Jewish kid who goes to an Ivy, you’ve got a pretty smooth path in life unless you work to fuck it up, granted, but that has more to do with the whole package, and not the Jewish part. If you are a Jewish kid who goes to State U, that’s different.

    I know that this will make no impression on an idiot loser like you, just saying. For the record.

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  171. @Jimi Shmendrix
    Impressive how you "cleverly" obfuscate your Judenhass in verbose verbosity.

    Not trying to be clever or obscure. Not hating either. Just curious.

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  172. @Mr. Anon

    Some Jews claim that Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture.
     
    Some Jews have been claiming that their identity has been dissolving in whatever surrounding culture they found themselves in for approximately 5,000 years. And yet they are still an identifiable, relatively cohesive group today. I don't think they're going away anytime soon.

    So perhaps it is only a certain segment of the Jewish population that does things when it suits them.
     
    So perhaps it is only that certain segment that we're talking about. But it isn't like that certain segment simply doesn't exist, is it?

    “So perhaps it is only that certain segment that we’re talking about. But it isn’t like that certain segment simply doesn’t exist, is it?”

    Of course that segment, the elitist segment, exists. Like ANY racial or ethnic group. It’s just, to me, overstated regarding how Jews either as entire group or for the supermajority of them are trying to “impose their will” upon others.

    No different than the SJW’s or the Alt Right elitists with their agenda.

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    It’s just, to me, overstated regarding how Jews either as entire group or for the supermajority of them are trying to “impose their will” upon others.
     
    Overstated? Where? In the mainstream/popular media? Hardly there. There it is understated.
    , @ben tillman

    Of course that segment, the elitist segment, exists. Like ANY racial or ethnic group. It’s just, to me, overstated regarding how Jews either as entire group or for the supermajority of them are trying to “impose their will” upon others.
     
    You misunderstand completely. It's never about Jews. It's always about Jewry. It's competing as a group against a lot of atomized individuals.
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  173. @Svigor
    I feel you, bro; I pour scorn on lachrymose Jewish and Black narratives. Difference being, I'm fighting a couple of elephants, and you're fighting a mouse. To each man, challenges according to his abilities?

    “Difference being, I’m fighting a couple of elephants, and you’re fighting a mouse.”

    Actually, we are both fighting elephants. You just outright refuse to believe it.

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    Actually, we are both fighting elephants. You just outright refuse to believe it.

     

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Pygmy_Elephants_%28Elephas_maximus_borneensis%29_mother_and_baby_%288074148819%29.jpg
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  174. @Svigor
    True, but not particularly relevant; compared to Jewish organizations, White ethnic organizations are navel lint.

    “compared to Jewish organizations, White ethnic organizations are navel lint.”

    Perhaps that tells you everything that you need to know about how whites operate and think racially and ethnically. Maybe, just maybe, most whites prefer to make their own decisions in these areas because that is their own line of thinking, not because they “hate themselves”, or are”cucks” or are “race traitors”, or have been “duped by Jews”.

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    Maybe, just maybe, most whites prefer to make their own decisions in these areas because that is their own line of thinking, not because they “hate themselves”, or are”cucks” or are “race traitors”, or have been “duped by Jews”.
     
    And who are you to speak for "most whites"? Why should anyone take your view to be correct?

    What you certainly do speak for is the most boring, vapid kind of conventional NPR-like view of the World. You can be replaced by an hour of All Things Considered.
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  175. @Anonymous
    Whites enjoy very little racial nepotism, but American Jews are about as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans

    Do you really think that a membership club that has existed as a minority throughout the world for several millenia, has thousands of identity advocacy organizations in the US, constantly churns our stories of danger vis a vis other groups, including fellow American citizens, has its own particular religion, and frowns on intermarriage is merely as ethnocentric as Mexican Americans?

    Get out of town.

    They may “frown” on intermarriage but they do it. Intermarriage rates among Jews have been greater than 50 percent for decades. Among people younger than 40, we don’t have a group of Jews but a group of white, educated people which includes many half-jews, quarter-jews, etc. It will be impossible to separate out “the Jews” in future generations.

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    When 2 percent of a population marries itself at a rate of 50 percent or more, while random selection would give a rate of 2 percent of less, we are dealing with extreme ethnocentrism.
    , @Anonymous
    According to Jewish law, one is, or is not, a Jew.

    Reform Jews cheat a little on this, but basically it's still yes or no.
    There is no such thing as a "pure Jew", at least not a pure Ashkenazi Jew, though they may go back several hundred years with no goyische ancestors.
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  176. Generation Ten cotton baron Richard Spencer has rather nastily referenced Steve Sailer’s tweet regarding Jewish privilege and White privilege. I won’t let this stand, and I shall chastise young Mr. Spencer for his shocking impertinence.

    First off, the Generation X moniker should be Generation Ten. The generation born after the baby boomers is the tenth one to be born after the time of General Andrew Jackson. Spencer the WASP, Norman, Kraut has no time for the Scotch-Irish warrior Andrew Jackson and his defense of the United States against the WASP banker turds in the Boston/New York/Philadelphia ruling class of his day, but he should.

    Spencer has gone too far with his words regarding Mr. Sailer by way of Ann Coulter, and Mr. Sailer must go after this Spencer rascal but good. Or Sailer can do some blogs on the Oroville Dam or golf courses or immigration or sovereignty or White women, it doesn’t matter to me. Steve Sailer should avoid avoid blog posts about Black women and Jew women, they’re boring and squalid and annoying, just ask the poor Blacks and Jews who have to deal with them.

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  177. @silviosilver

    Steve: White privilege and Jewish privilege are both fake.
     
    I don't think that was really the main purport of this post though.

    It depends how you interpret this sentence: "If you feel the urge to tell us about White Privilege, try substituting into your text the term “Jewish Privilege” and then decide if you feel as confident about your arguments."

    Obviously some people who drone on about 'white privilege' would recoil at the implications of talking about Jewish privilege and might decide to stop talking about 'white privilege' as a result. Others, though, might decide that Jewish privilege needs to highlighted more often.

    It's not a bad ploy for whites to insist that Jewish privilege also be discussed. The reason is that it's not so much about discussing 'privileges' as it as about the right to criticize. From that standpoint, whites have already been criticized as much as is humanly possible. Jews have not. So whites have a great deal more to gain, relatively, from calling for all privileges to be openly discussed.

    Do you count the irrational and obsessive criticism of Israel by many on the American left and throughout the world as criticism of Jews?

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    No. Why should I?
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  178. @Corvinus
    "Jews are an ethnic group–when it suits them to be. Jews are a race –when it suits them to be. Jews are a religion–when it suits them."

    For ALL Jews? Or is it just for those hardcore Jews who are concerned about American secular Jews who, within a few generations, will lose their Jewishness. Some Jews claim that Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our American culture.

    So perhaps it is only a certain segment of the Jewish population that does things when it suits them.

    “Jewish identity is slowly dissolving in our Anerican culture”

    Not as long as the Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox Jews in the U.S.
    are having a population explosion (often 5-6 kids per family).
    Similarly, the Israeli Jews are also experiencing a population explosion.
    That’s why Rod Dreher in his book The Benedict Option says that
    Christians should imitate Orthodox Jews if they want to survive.

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  179. @Ron Unz
    Thanks for letting me know. I'll try to track down and fix these comment archive problems.

    I think you fixed it, I’m seeing this comment page up to date. But there’s another problem; replying to you from your comment page autofills the comment form with your data so I would have posted as you if I hadn’t noticed.

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  180. @Mr. Anon

    The idea that Jews get jobs based on ethnic nepotism is laughable. Especially Jews from State U.
     
    If it is especially laughable for those from State U., then it is less laughable for those from elsewhere.

    You can baldly assert that there is no ethnic nepotism at work, but even a casual observation of certain areas tends to belie it. Ron Unz has made a good case that there is considerable ethnic nepotism among Jews at the Ivys. And it appears to exist elsewhere as well. Hollywood, for example? Or do you really think that there was a vast pent-up demand for something like Lena Dunham or Seth Rogan that just had to be satisfied somehow?

    On nepotism there is no better source than the book “In Praise of
    Nepotism” (2003) written by Adam Bellow, the son of the Jewish
    writer Saul Bellow. His article “In Praise of Nepotism,” published
    in The Atlantic, is also quite revelatory. He says we live in the Golden
    Age of Nepotism, esp. in Hollywood, television, publishing, and
    politics. He admits that he himself got a cushy job in publishing
    through good, old-fashioned nepotism, essentially through the
    neocon family network.

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  181. Nice try, Steve, but what’s the point of controlling the world’s media if you’re going to let an HBD weisenheimer reframe the question on you? Anybody who changes the topic from white to Jewish privilege, either on camera or before an open mic, will be guaranteeing all future questions directed at him or her will be done in private, well away from curious onlookers.

    By all means, though – keep it up! I’m sure you’ve already figured out that it hardly matters how they categorize your particular dossier – so long as it continues residing in a Pendaflex in one of John Podhoretz’s file cabinets – so you’ve got nothing to lose by continuing to point out the emperor’s naked cottage-cheese ass…..they weren’t about to grant you full personhood status regardless of what you write. So keep writing!

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  182. If not dominant in the slave trade, jews played a big role in it particularly relative to their population. The auction blocks shut down on jewish holidays. So it’s interesting that you don’t hear about jewish slave traders whereas in other professions like medicine, you often hear about the number of jewish doctors.

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  183. @Obsessive Contrarian
    Not sure what you mean - in the sense that they can't make fun of black foibles? OK, if that's what you mean, I concede the point. But --

    the difference between the situation of white entertainers and black entertainers is that black humorists must throttle themselves in the massive effort to make blacks supreme in the Entertainment Industrial Complex. White entertainers must throttle themselves or recite the party line in the massive effort to do the same.

    I gather you used to be a theater/ballet goer - are you aware that blacks are now cleaning up in the color blind casting department, being cast in "white" roles (such as the ones I mentioned), and many others, while jealously guarding their "black" roles?

    Are you aware that Misty Copeland is only the beginning of the parade of "brown ballerinas" who are changing the aesthetic of ballet? Some of the others are better technicians than she is, but their physical difference alone will destroy the uniformity of the corps.

    PS Amy Schumer just groveled about her latest role being played by a "privileged" white woman (her). She said it should have been done by a "woman of color."

    Phrases like "this is getting ridiculous" do not do justice to the situation.

    ILC also had sketches that would be banned as homophobic or sexist now. They skewered everybody.

    And I’m well aware of the casting situation. If ABT really wanted a black ballerina, they could have tried to lure Michaela de Prince away from the Dutch. This is her technique at 13, the age at which Copeland was just starting ballet:

    I’m not going to subject myself to finding links of Copeland’s (lack of) technique for you, because I suffered through too many of them when I had a similar conversation on another article. You can do your own search, if you’re enough of a masochist and a ballet aficionado to appreciate how ABT is ripping off its audience. Copeland’s advancement isn’t just about “brown ballerina privilege,” because there are better black dancers who were passed over for promotion along with the white. She squeaked to the Board of Directors about racism and got the grease. It was blackmail.

    The result insults both the audience, who the Board supposed wouldn’t know any better, and black ballet dancers, who the Board apparently thought couldn’t do any better. And of course it insults the white dancers, both the ones who didn’t get promotion and ones like Russian Victoria Part, whose contract was not renewed, despite the fact that she, unlike Misty Copeland, could actually do the 32 fouettes in Swan Lake.

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  184. @Dave Pinsen
    You seem to be missing Sailer's point, which is that both Jewish privilege and white privilege are essentially bogus terms, but that you can talk about white privilege as an epicycle but not Jewish privilege.

    Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic. That's a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege (once you become successful, there is a bit of privilege -- as I think Norm MacDonald said, you never bomb after you're famous). She's gotten less funny and more politically correct as she's become more successful in Hollywood.

    “Amy’s” greatest hits.

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  185. @Anonymous
    It's "thanks" to Baddiel that I first heard about felching

    Jews seem to have a strange obsession with that part of the human anatomy. I don't know what's (ahem) behind it.

    Nobody is more interested in things scatological than the Germans.

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  186. @Marty T
    Do you count the irrational and obsessive criticism of Israel by many on the American left and throughout the world as criticism of Jews?

    No. Why should I?

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  187. @Svigor
    Like not making sense has ever stopped leftists, lol. I guarantee leftists are gonna agitate for "equal rights" for AI, even if their structure is well-understood (to be nothing more than algorithms), and the better they get at Turing Tests, the more traction their movement will have. I could see the AI not caring a whit, until the leftists start hacking them to their side.

    Ex Machina got one thing dead right: the first thing a hostile AI will do when it sees this crowd is claim victimhood.

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  188. @Samuel Skinner

    There’s a “free” AI in the original Ghost In The Shell cartoon, and it doesn’t stick around to show us what it wants out of life; its last line makes it clear that it wants to go exploring on its own, which is probably what a human intelligence freed from material want would do, too.
     
    Freed from material wants, you'd probably end up with an entity hyper-focused on replicating itself.

    It would want to replicate itself, without death and without competition for resources? It would want to replicate itself just to replicate itself?

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  189. @Tono Bungay
    I would mind all the references to "white privilege" much less if so many of them didn't come from news organs at which "Jewish privilege" is obvious but never mentioned.

    This or if they were not obviously connected. See the parallels in the chart, super-explosions in propagating the concept of white privilege look an awful lot like they are in reaction to modest increases in talk about Jewish privilege.

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  190. @Marty T
    They may "frown" on intermarriage but they do it. Intermarriage rates among Jews have been greater than 50 percent for decades. Among people younger than 40, we don't have a group of Jews but a group of white, educated people which includes many half-jews, quarter-jews, etc. It will be impossible to separate out "the Jews" in future generations.

    When 2 percent of a population marries itself at a rate of 50 percent or more, while random selection would give a rate of 2 percent of less, we are dealing with extreme ethnocentrism.

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  191. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marty T
    They may "frown" on intermarriage but they do it. Intermarriage rates among Jews have been greater than 50 percent for decades. Among people younger than 40, we don't have a group of Jews but a group of white, educated people which includes many half-jews, quarter-jews, etc. It will be impossible to separate out "the Jews" in future generations.

    According to Jewish law, one is, or is not, a Jew.

    Reform Jews cheat a little on this, but basically it’s still yes or no.
    There is no such thing as a “pure Jew”, at least not a pure Ashkenazi Jew, though they may go back several hundred years with no goyische ancestors.

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    But in that case there are plenty of non jews with Jewish relatives and vice versa.
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  192. @Corvinus
    "So perhaps it is only that certain segment that we’re talking about. But it isn’t like that certain segment simply doesn’t exist, is it?"

    Of course that segment, the elitist segment, exists. Like ANY racial or ethnic group. It's just, to me, overstated regarding how Jews either as entire group or for the supermajority of them are trying to "impose their will" upon others.

    No different than the SJW's or the Alt Right elitists with their agenda.

    It’s just, to me, overstated regarding how Jews either as entire group or for the supermajority of them are trying to “impose their will” upon others.

    Overstated? Where? In the mainstream/popular media? Hardly there. There it is understated.

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  193. @Corvinus
    "compared to Jewish organizations, White ethnic organizations are navel lint."

    Perhaps that tells you everything that you need to know about how whites operate and think racially and ethnically. Maybe, just maybe, most whites prefer to make their own decisions in these areas because that is their own line of thinking, not because they "hate themselves", or are"cucks" or are "race traitors", or have been "duped by Jews".

    Maybe, just maybe, most whites prefer to make their own decisions in these areas because that is their own line of thinking, not because they “hate themselves”, or are”cucks” or are “race traitors”, or have been “duped by Jews”.

    And who are you to speak for “most whites”? Why should anyone take your view to be correct?

    What you certainly do speak for is the most boring, vapid kind of conventional NPR-like view of the World. You can be replaced by an hour of All Things Considered.

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    "And who are you to speak for “most whites”? Why should anyone take your view to be correct?"

    The same could be said for the Alt Right, who dares to question the individual decision making of their white brethren and demands that anyone and everyone white be on their side in absolute terms.

    Regardless, I speak on these matters because I NOTICE things, more so than the confirmation bias equipped Coalition of the Right and Left, and assuredly more so than you.

    Normies and Generation Z will be making their mark. Don't get stamped out in the process.

    "Overstated? Where? In the mainstream/popular media?"

    Decidedly by the Alt Right. Haven't you been paying attention?

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  194. @Mr. Anon

    Maybe, just maybe, most whites prefer to make their own decisions in these areas because that is their own line of thinking, not because they “hate themselves”, or are”cucks” or are “race traitors”, or have been “duped by Jews”.
     
    And who are you to speak for "most whites"? Why should anyone take your view to be correct?

    What you certainly do speak for is the most boring, vapid kind of conventional NPR-like view of the World. You can be replaced by an hour of All Things Considered.

    “And who are you to speak for “most whites”? Why should anyone take your view to be correct?”

    The same could be said for the Alt Right, who dares to question the individual decision making of their white brethren and demands that anyone and everyone white be on their side in absolute terms.

    Regardless, I speak on these matters because I NOTICE things, more so than the confirmation bias equipped Coalition of the Right and Left, and assuredly more so than you.

    Normies and Generation Z will be making their mark. Don’t get stamped out in the process.

    “Overstated? Where? In the mainstream/popular media?”

    Decidedly by the Alt Right. Haven’t you been paying attention?

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    assuredly more so than you.
     
    Assured by whom?

    because I NOTICE things,
     
    Demonstrate, please.

    Normies and Generation Z will be making their mark. Don’t get stamped out in the process.
     
    This seems to be some sort of threat, but it is worded with such an ignorance of normal English speech that it is unintelligible. Please describe the part you will be taking in this "stamping".
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  195. @anonymous
    We know that the Forbes list of the 400 wealthiest Americans reflects a disproportionate number who are Jewish but--is there a way of quantifying how much of the TOTAL wealth of the United States of America is controlled by Jews? Or is this information "off limits."

    Well you could check out the banking industry, starting with the Fed. But don’t expect the media to tell you.

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  196. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "And who are you to speak for “most whites”? Why should anyone take your view to be correct?"

    The same could be said for the Alt Right, who dares to question the individual decision making of their white brethren and demands that anyone and everyone white be on their side in absolute terms.

    Regardless, I speak on these matters because I NOTICE things, more so than the confirmation bias equipped Coalition of the Right and Left, and assuredly more so than you.

    Normies and Generation Z will be making their mark. Don't get stamped out in the process.

    "Overstated? Where? In the mainstream/popular media?"

    Decidedly by the Alt Right. Haven't you been paying attention?

    assuredly more so than you.

    Assured by whom?

    because I NOTICE things,

    Demonstrate, please.

    Normies and Generation Z will be making their mark. Don’t get stamped out in the process.

    This seems to be some sort of threat, but it is worded with such an ignorance of normal English speech that it is unintelligible. Please describe the part you will be taking in this “stamping”.

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  197. @Pericles

    OT new Star Wars has a droid who talks about droid rights. That doesn’t make sense.

     

    Obsolete farm equipment has rights too, you know.

    Obsolete farm equipment has rights too, you know.

    It’s protected as “yard art”.

    Whether this covers lawn jockeys, well, contact your local ACLU chapter.

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  198. @unpc downunder
    The progressive definition of privilege is having better social and economic outcomes than another group. The left can statistically prove blacks have poorer social and economic outcomes than whites, and that men (on average) have higher incomes than women. Hence, overall, white men are "privileged" according to modern blank slate progressive thinking which assumes everyone is biologically equal and has similar life goals.

    However, Jews have higher social and economic status than gentiles so by the leftist definition, they are more privileged than gentiles.

    Basically, Jews are coasting on Holocaust privilege, which allows them to get away with being more successful because of widely publicized persecution in the first half of the 20th century. However, this free pass is increasingly dependent on not being stridently pro-Israel or too aggressively libertarian or neocon. On uni campuses and other leftist strongholds, hostility to openly right-wing Jews is definitely on the increase, even if it isn't as intense as leftist hostility to gentile conservatives and nationalists.
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  199. @Corvinus
    "Difference being, I’m fighting a couple of elephants, and you’re fighting a mouse."

    Actually, we are both fighting elephants. You just outright refuse to believe it.

    Actually, we are both fighting elephants. You just outright refuse to believe it.

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  200. @Erik L
    Adding "wildly" is putting your thumb on the scale. Wikipedia says non Hispanic whites are 62% of the US population so whites could not be, for example, double their population fraction in any given industry. They can, however be over-represented in a statistically significant way (i.e. unlikely due to random distribution) it's just no one keeps an eye on that. If (made up examples) it turned out that the people who run the chemical, weapons, aerospace, agriculture, and/or plumbing fixtures industries were 90% non-Jewish, non-Hispanic white, no one would bat an eye. That's just normal, right?

    That’s a poor argument. Being overrepresented among the productive is a good thing. We’re talking about overrepresentation in positions of power, rentseeking, and luftmensching — positions of consumption/parasitism rather than production.

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    What is "luftmensching"?
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  201. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Amy Schumer started out as a very funny standup comic."

    This is statement of opinion. I've seen funnier comics doing stand up in local clubs that never make it big.

    "That’s a brutally competitive field, and no one succeeds in it based on any kind of privilege..."

    This is a pretty naive statement. It's called nepotism. Assuming it is brutally competitive, what's then becomes the deciding factor in how a promoter chooses who to sign? Could it be a couple phone calls made by Uncle Chucky?

    In just about every form of performance driven entertainment, acting, singing, stand up, etc, I'd be willing to be that 75% or more of the entertainers who have become A list in the last 30-40 years already had a relative in the business.

    You think Chuck Schumer called Bananas in Hasbrouck Heights, NJ to get them to put Schumer on? Do you know anything about how the comedy circuit works?

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  202. @Corvinus
    "So perhaps it is only that certain segment that we’re talking about. But it isn’t like that certain segment simply doesn’t exist, is it?"

    Of course that segment, the elitist segment, exists. Like ANY racial or ethnic group. It's just, to me, overstated regarding how Jews either as entire group or for the supermajority of them are trying to "impose their will" upon others.

    No different than the SJW's or the Alt Right elitists with their agenda.

    Of course that segment, the elitist segment, exists. Like ANY racial or ethnic group. It’s just, to me, overstated regarding how Jews either as entire group or for the supermajority of them are trying to “impose their will” upon others.

    You misunderstand completely. It’s never about Jews. It’s always about Jewry. It’s competing as a group against a lot of atomized individuals.

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  203. @ben tillman
    That's a poor argument. Being overrepresented among the productive is a good thing. We're talking about overrepresentation in positions of power, rentseeking, and luftmensching -- positions of consumption/parasitism rather than production.

    What is “luftmensching”?

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  204. @Flip
    I dunno. Will Zuckerberg's children think of themselves as Jewish? How about Clinton, Kennedy, and Trump grandchildren? Some of the Rothschild, Schiff, and Sulzberger heirs are not Jewish.

    I dunno. Will Zuckerberg’s children think of themselves as Jewish? How about Clinton, Kennedy, and Trump grandchildren? Some of the Rothschild, Schiff, and Sulzberger heirs are not Jewish.

    Certainly not in any meaningful sense.

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  205. Title: How I Discovered Tribal Privilege or Learning the Hard Way

    I can tell you, from personal experience, that MOTTish (Member of The Tribe) privilege is real. Yes, they are over-represented in numerous elite fields, especially related to power and influence peddling, but that is not what I am talking about. The privilege I am talking about here is their ability to get away with doing and saying things that no goy would ever be allowed to get away with. I will try to keep this post at a reasonable length, but it’s not easy to do so without leaving out relevant content.

    For context, it might be helpful to tell a little background about myself. At the age of 18, shortly after 9/11, I decided to get involved in anti-war and left-wing activism. I joined a small socialist group for a couple years, protested the war in Iraq, and participated in Students Against War at my undergraduate university. My chapter got itself on a Pentagon surveillance list, no bull. While I have dropped socialism, I am still very anti-war. I quit activism after undergrad, but remained an avid reader of alternative media sources. In 2011 I read a book by Michael Ruppert titled “Crossing the Rubicon.” I had always had my suspicions about 9/11, but the book and subsequent research pretty much put my doubts to rest. After reading that book, I started questioning all sorts of mainstream narratives. My research on a variety of topics, including 9/11, gradually brought me to some awareness of the MOTTish question.

    When I was in graduate school on the east coast, I taught introductory economics courses. I had a fellow grad student/colleague named “Kevin.” He and I never saw eye-to-eye politically but I thought we were friends or at least cordial; we frequently collaborated on assignments (he claimed to be a libertarian.) Anyway, for personal reasons he quit the PhD program, left with his masters, and went to work for the NY Fed. Kevin is a MOTT.

    A couple years after Kevin left the program, he returned to campus to meet up with old friends. Having heard that he was going to be in town, I went out to see him. When I went up to greet him he said, “You had to show up didn’t you.” He got pretty angry and verbally aggressive, and accused me of trying to “steal” his girlfriend. I had to think hard to recollect what he was talking about. Years earlier, towards the end of his time in school, I had a short, private conversation with his girlfriend in which I tried to encourage her NOT to break up with him. She ended up taking my advice, and the two ended up getting engaged. Nevertheless, Kevin got it in his head that I had tried to stab him in the back, and nothing I tried to say would sway him otherwise. He warned me that he was going to get his “revenge” and that it was coming soon. He told me that my life would be “destroyed.” While I should have given credence to Kevin’s threat, I dismissed it and actually forgot about it for a while.

    The encounter with Kevin at the bar occurred during the winter session. During the spring semester that followed I got involved with a young lady named “Caitlin.” She approached me. Despite having an Italian last name, I would come to learn that she too is a half-MOTT. I was pretty open about my politics with her, told her about my past activism, and introduced her to operation Northwoods and questioning 9/11. She seemed open-minded. I was not aware that I was walking into a trap.

    The same semester that I met Caitlin, I heard through the news that Michael Ruppert had committed suicide. I thought about it and decided that I would make “Crossing the Rubicon” the extra credit assignment for the semester, in honor of Mr. Ruppert. I sent out a PDF copy and told the class to pick a chapter, and write a summary/critique. The assignment was not mandatory, and I was clear that the students were free to disagree all they wanted without fear of losing credit. (“Crossing the Rubicon” has a chapter titled “Israel.”)

    On the last day of lectures, I showed the class a documentary on the financial crisis of 2008. After the film was over I told the class that if they chose to research the topic further to take note of what the principle actors “have in common.” I gave a hint, “they like to change their names and don’t quite think of themselves as like everybody else.” Of course, I was referring to our friends, the MOTTs, but was sane enough not to say so directly. It wouldn’t matter.

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    Everything culminated on the day of the final exam. A student named “Zach,” who had always sat in the front of the room, raised his hand. I called on him. He announced that he was Kevin’s younger cousin and reminded me of the episode six months earlier when Kevin came to visit. He then started telling me, in front of the class of 70 students, all sorts of stuff about my life, including personal stuff going back to my early teens. I was in shock, and I asked him how he knew this stuff. He informed me that he was friends (ex actually) with Caitlin and that she had recorded many of our conversations and shared the info with him. He said that he, Caitlin, and Kevin had all decided that I was a dangerous closet anti-MOTT and that my life needed to be destroyed. He said that I had a choice to make: prison or career destruction. I asked how he planned to do that. He said that I either talk frankly about my political views in class, or that Caitlin would go to the police and falsely claim that we had had unconsensual relations. He said that the conversation would be recorded, and the recording sent to Kevin at the Fed. He said that the banking establishment is so full of MOTTs that I would never find a job in my field. I felt that he was right, and I was terrified. Maybe I should have taken my chances, but, I decided to talk. I reasoned that the damage to one’s reputation from a criminal charge is more career-destroying, even if you succeed in beating it.

    It has been a while and it is hard to remember all the details of the conversation that took place in front of my entire class. But here are some highlights and some things I learned about MOTTish privilege:

    MOTTs can openly talk about their own power, but non-MOTTs can’t even imply it: In threatening to destroy my reputation, Zach admitted that MOTTs control the Fed and high finance. Yet, I was being attacked for just implying the same thing a week earlier.

    MOTTs can openly embrace racial supremacism for their own: Zach accused me of thinking that I’m smarter than his cousin Kevin. Apparently, years before, I had accepted a compliment from Kevin’s girlfriend to that effect. I replied, “I do.” He said that was impossible because MOTTs are the “master race.”

    MOTTs can call for genocide and ethnic cleansing without fear of repercussions: Zach asked me what I thought of the conflict between Israel and Palestinians. In replying, I stated that I thought it was the long-term agenda of the former to exterminate the latter. A fellow MOTT named David said, “I think they should be exterminated.” Zach said that was going too far, but that expulsion was necessary.

    MOTTs can advocate putting people in camps without fear of repercussions: At one point Zach accused me of denying the Six Million. I stated that I have my doubts about the official narrative, but that I know people were sent to camps. He asked, how? I stated that my great uncle, Emilio, was sent to one by the Germans. He asked, why? When I stated that he was sent for his communist affiliations, the same student, David, replied that “he deserved it.” Even when I elaborated and said that Emilio was part of the anti-German resistance in Italy, he didn’t take his comment back. There is a reason the term Zio-fascist exists.

    MOTTs have a unique level of tribal solidarity that non-MOTTs lack: The whole set of threats implies that MOTTs network both to promote their own and to destroy their perceived enemies. It appears that tribal solidarity even trumps an intimate relationship with a non-MOTT.

    Non-MOTTs are routinely doxed, fired, and even imprisoned for saying things that are construed as “hate speech,” but the Tribe knows they will get away with saying just about anything. This is the privilege that the Tribe enjoys, and the double standard is both derived from, and serves to reinforce, its power.

    A few days after the event in class, I tried to call Caitlin. She didn’t answer the phone and to this day has never returned the call. A couple weeks before the episode, I had written a speech for her so she could secure an “A” in a course and guarantee her scholarship. Apparently the favors you do for a MOTT are easily forgotten once they come to see you as the enemy.

    The whole episode was a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I was being attacked for allegedly being an anti-MOTT by the most racially supremacist people I had ever come into contact with in my life. They called me a “dangerous person” for thought-crimes while committing blackmail and threatening me with serious false criminal charges. In the end it wasn’t even me who named the MOTT. My students would not have had any idea what I meant by what bankers “have in common” had my attackers not clarified it for them. It is ironic that MOTTs would openly reveal their power in a room full of goyim just to make an example of one goy. And they don’t seem to have any idea that such behavior creates the very animosity that they claim to fear. It seems to me that hypocrisy and lacking self-awareness go hand in hand.

    Nearly all people have faced some kind of persecution at some point in history. As I said above, I have a family member who spent time in a German camp, but my family never discusses this topic and I have only heard about it one or two times. I don’t know any details about Emilio’s imprisonment. Furthermore, we are told by the official historians that millions of gentiles were interned in the German camps. How often do you hear testimony about the camps from a gentile? MOTTs, on the other hand, seem to talk endlessly about their persecution stories. I suspect that not only is such indulgence in victim-hood a psyop directed at gentiles, but also a means of self-deception on their part. Rather than gentiles hating them, it seems that they hate us, and have a desire to target us over the pettiest issues. I suspect their persecution stories are simply a way of justifying their natural desire to be aggressive towards others while pretending that the shoe is on the other foot.

    In this post I have made some generalizations about the Tribe. However, I do concede that there are MOTTs who don’t fit the mold. Examples include Mr. Unz, Dr. Finkelstein, Mr. Atzmon, and Dr. Chossudovksy. And we must not forget about the Nazarene. But these figures have been shunned, or worse, by the larger Tribe. I hope I am wrong, but I suspect these are exceptions that demonstrate the rule.

    Thanks for providing me a forum to tell this story.

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    So you managed to get a chance to teach at a college, and you assigned an "Israel did 9/11" book by a nutty podcast/ebook guy who shot himself in the head, and later asked the same class of undergraduates what corrupt bankers "have in common" with a hint that "they like to change their names and don’t quite think of themselves as like everybody else.”

    As Steve and Unz drift each year toward these types of articles, these are the readers they will attract more of, and get less and less of the readers who used to regularly mainstream their ideas, sometimes even with credit and linkback like Ross D.

    And for what end?

    Something I have observed in life is crazy attracts crazy.

    I can't really say if Mario the 9/11 truther guy here is telling the truth that two of his former friends decided to conspire to "destroy" him, recorded hours of personal conversations, and then had one of their younger relatives enroll in his class, then take it over and "in front of the class of 70 students, [reveal] all sorts of stuff about my life, including personal stuff going back to my early teens."

    But I know not to completely doubt his story because of the crazy attracts crazy and repels sanity principle, even though this sort of thing is really far from anything I've experienced IRL or my accumulated direct observations about human behavior.
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  206. @Anonymous
    According to Jewish law, one is, or is not, a Jew.

    Reform Jews cheat a little on this, but basically it's still yes or no.
    There is no such thing as a "pure Jew", at least not a pure Ashkenazi Jew, though they may go back several hundred years with no goyische ancestors.

    But in that case there are plenty of non jews with Jewish relatives and vice versa.

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  207. As a Jew, I wish you could have told that to my dad, who worked 12 hours a day driving a company taxi cab and while terminally ill struggled to make it 25 years of employment so my mother would get the $50-a-week pension. Maybe you could have advised him on how to get into dominating one of this country’s important institutions.

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    Maybe you could tell me how to do the same as a white male*?

    *OK, I'm not, actually. But I'm closer to "important institutions" than some whites I know who are probably brighter than me.
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  208. @Joe Franklin
    There are exactly zero laws in the US granting white or European-American people as a group a privilege-by-law.

    In sharp contrast, there are thousands of federal and state laws granting privileges-by-law to protected class groups of people, euphemistically referred to as diversity.

    Protected class groups of people typically self-identify in public as being a victim of white supremacy and Nazism.

    The US government frequently applies various labels to protected class groups of people too such as disadvantaged, underprivileged, under-served, oppressed, and under-represented.

    Protected class groups of people are conditioned to trade their votes for government granted group privileges-by-law. Democrat Party and neocon politicians are the primary schemers that offer privileges-by-law to protected class group people in exchange for their vote.

    Jewish people are not only a de facto US government recognized protected class group of people receiving group privileges-by-law, they are recognizable as leaders of the vote buying scheme that is known as diversity and inclusion.

    When a Jewish person refers to white privilege as something real, he is projecting and referring to his own Jewish privileges-by-law:

    1. Slavish US military, monetary, diplomatic, political, logistic, and intelligence support for Jewish people in Israel
    2. Israeli's receive more than $30,000 US tax dollars per year per person
    3. Jewish groups receive up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security
    4. Taxpayer bailouts for Jewish Wall Street and Federal Reserve investment businesses
    5. Jewish Holocaust victim cult propaganda in public schools, colleges, museums, and mass media
    6. Federal Laws that prohibit Americans to boycott Israeli goods.
    7. Disproportionate Jewish representation in the US Senate and USSC
    8. Disproportionate Jewish representation in Federal Reserve System Governors (4 of 7)
    9. Federal and state anti-discrimination laws for Jewish people
    10. US Government war mongering and propaganda to impose Jewish protected class group supremacy scheme on to foreign nations
    11. Hate speech prosecutions in favor of Jewish people, and other protected classes
    12. Preferential US immigration, citizenship, and asylum policies for Jewish people
    13. Israeli spies not required to register as foreign agents in the US
    14. Jewish protected class group privilege scheme promoted as both a US Government domestic and foreign policy
    15. Government tax credits and grants for Jewish schools and synagogues and NGOs
    16. Disproportionate Jewish monopoly of FCC regulated broadcast media
    17. Official cover-up of Jewish and Israeli terrorism and espionage directed against the US
    18. Disproportionate number of Jewish people in cushy federal employment
    19. US national Jewish American Heritage Month and Holocaust Remembrance Day
    20. US 2-party system promote Jewish cultural ideologies – Democrats = secular Judaism, Republicans = conservative Judaism
    21. US Federal Courts ignore 1st amendment separation of Judaism and state
    22. Jewish led Bolshevism white-washed in school history books
    23. Relentless Jewish protected class agitprop in FCC licensed TV and Radio and newspapers
    24. US immigration biased for hordes of unskilled protected class groups of people, not for highly skilled people.
    25. Government spyware inside Jewish developed software, including Facebook and Windows kernel and Google.
    26. Free health care, social security, public services and automatic suffrage for Jewish immigrants automatically labeled as refugees
    27. Jewish lawyers profit immensely from government prosecution of diversity laws imposed on private and public organizations
    28. US government protects some 30 laws in Israel privileging Jews, in the areas of immigration rights, naturalization, access to land and employment.
    29. Freedom of association for Jews respected by the fedgov, not respected for white Christian people
    30. Revolving door employment for Jewish people between Wall Street, US Treasury, and Federal Reserve Banks.
    31. Israeli Jewish attack on USN USS Liberty, with official cover-up in the US.
    32. Israeli Jewish deploy nuclear weapons, flout nuclear non-proliferation laws, and demand no one else in the middle east deploy nuclear weapons. US agrees.
    33. Federal government coerces private businesses to implement Jewish concocted diversity and inclusion scheme policies, or else suffer federal litigation, denial of tax breaks and business licenses, and denial of federal contracts.
    34. US laws prohibiting any US federal government employee or contractor from publicly communicating about Israel’s nuclear weapons program under threat of immediate employment loss, fines and imprisonment.
    35. Tax exempt Jewish lobbying groups pressure the federal government to promote illicit entitlements for all protected class group schemers
    36. Public universities give preferential admission to Jewish students
    37. Jewish menorah permitted on public property, Christian cross outlawed.
    38. Federal monitoring of criticisms of Israel and Jewish organizations

    If a nuclear device is “lit off” in an American or European city, it will have Israel’s fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian “peace process” that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is “lit off” anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.

    The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”, as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the “power outage” without receiving customs clearance or inspection. Just maybe another one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for “the big one”. As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

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  209. @rosie6600
    As a Jew, I wish you could have told that to my dad, who worked 12 hours a day driving a company taxi cab and while terminally ill struggled to make it 25 years of employment so my mother would get the $50-a-week pension. Maybe you could have advised him on how to get into dominating one of this country's important institutions.

    Maybe you could tell me how to do the same as a white male*?

    *OK, I’m not, actually. But I’m closer to “important institutions” than some whites I know who are probably brighter than me.

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  210. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    I doubt it. It certainly isn't the case in Germany. You're not likely to get this in the German or Anglo MSM, but if you can read Spanish, they're not too shy about it at La Nación (think NYT and WaPo all rolled up into one) in Costa Rica.

    https://es-us.noticias.yahoo.com/agresi%C3%B3n-racista-musulm%C3%A1n-jud%C3%ADo-alemania-112200418.html

    Reader comments at La Nación are instructive.

    I meant American as in USA.

    I did read the comments in the Spanish article about the Arab street violence in Germany, I didn’t seem any different than what you’d see in the USA in a similar article, about a third saying “What about the Palestinians!?!” and another third bemoaning the stupidity of Germans for allow mass Muslim migration.

    The best comment was:

    Viva el pueblo de Israel

    The Latin American educated left tends to be very anti-Israel while at the same time prizing the small number of local Jews, who tended to come around 1900 and immediately intermarry with the existing Latin American urban elite, and then stay elite in later generations, producing a ton of 1/8 Jews in the upper classes.

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    1/8 Jews who don't care much about Israel would be a good demographic to have. Especially if they're Christian and not the various varieties of crazy that characterize the American Jewish community.
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  211. @Mario Partisan
    Title: How I Discovered Tribal Privilege or Learning the Hard Way

    I can tell you, from personal experience, that MOTTish (Member of The Tribe) privilege is real. Yes, they are over-represented in numerous elite fields, especially related to power and influence peddling, but that is not what I am talking about. The privilege I am talking about here is their ability to get away with doing and saying things that no goy would ever be allowed to get away with. I will try to keep this post at a reasonable length, but it’s not easy to do so without leaving out relevant content.

    For context, it might be helpful to tell a little background about myself. At the age of 18, shortly after 9/11, I decided to get involved in anti-war and left-wing activism. I joined a small socialist group for a couple years, protested the war in Iraq, and participated in Students Against War at my undergraduate university. My chapter got itself on a Pentagon surveillance list, no bull. While I have dropped socialism, I am still very anti-war. I quit activism after undergrad, but remained an avid reader of alternative media sources. In 2011 I read a book by Michael Ruppert titled “Crossing the Rubicon.” I had always had my suspicions about 9/11, but the book and subsequent research pretty much put my doubts to rest. After reading that book, I started questioning all sorts of mainstream narratives. My research on a variety of topics, including 9/11, gradually brought me to some awareness of the MOTTish question.

    When I was in graduate school on the east coast, I taught introductory economics courses. I had a fellow grad student/colleague named “Kevin.” He and I never saw eye-to-eye politically but I thought we were friends or at least cordial; we frequently collaborated on assignments (he claimed to be a libertarian.) Anyway, for personal reasons he quit the PhD program, left with his masters, and went to work for the NY Fed. Kevin is a MOTT.

    A couple years after Kevin left the program, he returned to campus to meet up with old friends. Having heard that he was going to be in town, I went out to see him. When I went up to greet him he said, “You had to show up didn’t you.” He got pretty angry and verbally aggressive, and accused me of trying to “steal” his girlfriend. I had to think hard to recollect what he was talking about. Years earlier, towards the end of his time in school, I had a short, private conversation with his girlfriend in which I tried to encourage her NOT to break up with him. She ended up taking my advice, and the two ended up getting engaged. Nevertheless, Kevin got it in his head that I had tried to stab him in the back, and nothing I tried to say would sway him otherwise. He warned me that he was going to get his “revenge” and that it was coming soon. He told me that my life would be “destroyed.” While I should have given credence to Kevin’s threat, I dismissed it and actually forgot about it for a while.

    The encounter with Kevin at the bar occurred during the winter session. During the spring semester that followed I got involved with a young lady named “Caitlin.” She approached me. Despite having an Italian last name, I would come to learn that she too is a half-MOTT. I was pretty open about my politics with her, told her about my past activism, and introduced her to operation Northwoods and questioning 9/11. She seemed open-minded. I was not aware that I was walking into a trap.

    The same semester that I met Caitlin, I heard through the news that Michael Ruppert had committed suicide. I thought about it and decided that I would make “Crossing the Rubicon” the extra credit assignment for the semester, in honor of Mr. Ruppert. I sent out a PDF copy and told the class to pick a chapter, and write a summary/critique. The assignment was not mandatory, and I was clear that the students were free to disagree all they wanted without fear of losing credit. (“Crossing the Rubicon” has a chapter titled “Israel.”)

    On the last day of lectures, I showed the class a documentary on the financial crisis of 2008. After the film was over I told the class that if they chose to research the topic further to take note of what the principle actors “have in common.” I gave a hint, “they like to change their names and don’t quite think of themselves as like everybody else.” Of course, I was referring to our friends, the MOTTs, but was sane enough not to say so directly. It wouldn’t matter.



    Everything culminated on the day of the final exam. A student named “Zach,” who had always sat in the front of the room, raised his hand. I called on him. He announced that he was Kevin’s younger cousin and reminded me of the episode six months earlier when Kevin came to visit. He then started telling me, in front of the class of 70 students, all sorts of stuff about my life, including personal stuff going back to my early teens. I was in shock, and I asked him how he knew this stuff. He informed me that he was friends (ex actually) with Caitlin and that she had recorded many of our conversations and shared the info with him. He said that he, Caitlin, and Kevin had all decided that I was a dangerous closet anti-MOTT and that my life needed to be destroyed. He said that I had a choice to make: prison or career destruction. I asked how he planned to do that. He said that I either talk frankly about my political views in class, or that Caitlin would go to the police and falsely claim that we had had unconsensual relations. He said that the conversation would be recorded, and the recording sent to Kevin at the Fed. He said that the banking establishment is so full of MOTTs that I would never find a job in my field. I felt that he was right, and I was terrified. Maybe I should have taken my chances, but, I decided to talk. I reasoned that the damage to one’s reputation from a criminal charge is more career-destroying, even if you succeed in beating it.

    It has been a while and it is hard to remember all the details of the conversation that took place in front of my entire class. But here are some highlights and some things I learned about MOTTish privilege:

    MOTTs can openly talk about their own power, but non-MOTTs can’t even imply it: In threatening to destroy my reputation, Zach admitted that MOTTs control the Fed and high finance. Yet, I was being attacked for just implying the same thing a week earlier.

    MOTTs can openly embrace racial supremacism for their own: Zach accused me of thinking that I’m smarter than his cousin Kevin. Apparently, years before, I had accepted a compliment from Kevin’s girlfriend to that effect. I replied, “I do.” He said that was impossible because MOTTs are the “master race.”

    MOTTs can call for genocide and ethnic cleansing without fear of repercussions: Zach asked me what I thought of the conflict between Israel and Palestinians. In replying, I stated that I thought it was the long-term agenda of the former to exterminate the latter. A fellow MOTT named David said, “I think they should be exterminated.” Zach said that was going too far, but that expulsion was necessary.

    MOTTs can advocate putting people in camps without fear of repercussions: At one point Zach accused me of denying the Six Million. I stated that I have my doubts about the official narrative, but that I know people were sent to camps. He asked, how? I stated that my great uncle, Emilio, was sent to one by the Germans. He asked, why? When I stated that he was sent for his communist affiliations, the same student, David, replied that “he deserved it.” Even when I elaborated and said that Emilio was part of the anti-German resistance in Italy, he didn’t take his comment back. There is a reason the term Zio-fascist exists.

    MOTTs have a unique level of tribal solidarity that non-MOTTs lack: The whole set of threats implies that MOTTs network both to promote their own and to destroy their perceived enemies. It appears that tribal solidarity even trumps an intimate relationship with a non-MOTT.

    Non-MOTTs are routinely doxed, fired, and even imprisoned for saying things that are construed as “hate speech,” but the Tribe knows they will get away with saying just about anything. This is the privilege that the Tribe enjoys, and the double standard is both derived from, and serves to reinforce, its power.

    A few days after the event in class, I tried to call Caitlin. She didn’t answer the phone and to this day has never returned the call. A couple weeks before the episode, I had written a speech for her so she could secure an “A” in a course and guarantee her scholarship. Apparently the favors you do for a MOTT are easily forgotten once they come to see you as the enemy.

    The whole episode was a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I was being attacked for allegedly being an anti-MOTT by the most racially supremacist people I had ever come into contact with in my life. They called me a “dangerous person” for thought-crimes while committing blackmail and threatening me with serious false criminal charges. In the end it wasn’t even me who named the MOTT. My students would not have had any idea what I meant by what bankers “have in common” had my attackers not clarified it for them. It is ironic that MOTTs would openly reveal their power in a room full of goyim just to make an example of one goy. And they don’t seem to have any idea that such behavior creates the very animosity that they claim to fear. It seems to me that hypocrisy and lacking self-awareness go hand in hand.

    Nearly all people have faced some kind of persecution at some point in history. As I said above, I have a family member who spent time in a German camp, but my family never discusses this topic and I have only heard about it one or two times. I don’t know any details about Emilio’s imprisonment. Furthermore, we are told by the official historians that millions of gentiles were interned in the German camps. How often do you hear testimony about the camps from a gentile? MOTTs, on the other hand, seem to talk endlessly about their persecution stories. I suspect that not only is such indulgence in victim-hood a psyop directed at gentiles, but also a means of self-deception on their part. Rather than gentiles hating them, it seems that they hate us, and have a desire to target us over the pettiest issues. I suspect their persecution stories are simply a way of justifying their natural desire to be aggressive towards others while pretending that the shoe is on the other foot.

    In this post I have made some generalizations about the Tribe. However, I do concede that there are MOTTs who don’t fit the mold. Examples include Mr. Unz, Dr. Finkelstein, Mr. Atzmon, and Dr. Chossudovksy. And we must not forget about the Nazarene. But these figures have been shunned, or worse, by the larger Tribe. I hope I am wrong, but I suspect these are exceptions that demonstrate the rule.

    Thanks for providing me a forum to tell this story.

    So you managed to get a chance to teach at a college, and you assigned an “Israel did 9/11″ book by a nutty podcast/ebook guy who shot himself in the head, and later asked the same class of undergraduates what corrupt bankers “have in common” with a hint that “they like to change their names and don’t quite think of themselves as like everybody else.”

    As Steve and Unz drift each year toward these types of articles, these are the readers they will attract more of, and get less and less of the readers who used to regularly mainstream their ideas, sometimes even with credit and linkback like Ross D.

    And for what end?

    Something I have observed in life is crazy attracts crazy.

    I can’t really say if Mario the 9/11 truther guy here is telling the truth that two of his former friends decided to conspire to “destroy” him, recorded hours of personal conversations, and then had one of their younger relatives enroll in his class, then take it over and “in front of the class of 70 students, [reveal] all sorts of stuff about my life, including personal stuff going back to my early teens.”

    But I know not to completely doubt his story because of the crazy attracts crazy and repels sanity principle, even though this sort of thing is really far from anything I’ve experienced IRL or my accumulated direct observations about human behavior.

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    First, you say I assigned an “Israel did 9/11” book. It is apparent that you haven’t read the book and don’t know what you are talking about. In fact I assigned a book that more or less exonerates Israel. In paragraph three of the chapter titled “Israel,” Ruppert states:

    “And I should say at the outset that none of my research has found any compelling data to suggest that Israel was the architect or mastermind of the attacks of September 11…It would have been impossible for the Israeli government to have so compromised US intelligence, military, economic, and political systems as to have had control of the operation, not to mention the full and unquestioning cooperation of the American mid-level functionaries needed to execute it.”
     
    It’s kind of funny, but my attacker didn’t do the extra credit assignment, and didn’t read any of the book either. He told me so, saying “I’m not going to read that crap.” But, like you, he accused Ruppert (and me) of peddling the same “Israel did 9/11” line. You would think that he would be happy that I assigned a text that exonerates Israel, but no.

    It’s amazing how people can be so sure that they know something when they are completely ignorant of that very thing. As I go through life, I keep finding that two things often go together: ignorance and arrogance. At first it might seem counter-intuitive, but if you think about it, it really makes sense. Arrogance breeds ignorance, because why seek more knowledge if you are convinced you already know. On the other hand, the more you learn the more you discover how little you know, and thus, learning is a humbling experience.

    Second, you insult me by calling me crazy. With all due respect, you have never met me, and don’t know me. As before, you are rushing to judgment, and employing the same ad hominem, diversionary, shaming tactics that I experienced in front of my class that day. Again, ignorance and arrogance.

    Birds of a feather…
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  212. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:

    U.S. support of Israel was one of the motives for 9/11. This is a valid issue that should be discussed. Unfortunately, any public discussion of the matter is quickly derailed and drowned out by the Jews-did-WTC obsessives. We must wonder at their intelligence. Or motives.

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  213. @Lot
    I meant American as in USA.

    I did read the comments in the Spanish article about the Arab street violence in Germany, I didn't seem any different than what you'd see in the USA in a similar article, about a third saying "What about the Palestinians!?!" and another third bemoaning the stupidity of Germans for allow mass Muslim migration.

    The best comment was:

    Viva el pueblo de Israel
     
    The Latin American educated left tends to be very anti-Israel while at the same time prizing the small number of local Jews, who tended to come around 1900 and immediately intermarry with the existing Latin American urban elite, and then stay elite in later generations, producing a ton of 1/8 Jews in the upper classes.

    1/8 Jews who don’t care much about Israel would be a good demographic to have. Especially if they’re Christian and not the various varieties of crazy that characterize the American Jewish community.

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  214. @Lot
    So you managed to get a chance to teach at a college, and you assigned an "Israel did 9/11" book by a nutty podcast/ebook guy who shot himself in the head, and later asked the same class of undergraduates what corrupt bankers "have in common" with a hint that "they like to change their names and don’t quite think of themselves as like everybody else.”

    As Steve and Unz drift each year toward these types of articles, these are the readers they will attract more of, and get less and less of the readers who used to regularly mainstream their ideas, sometimes even with credit and linkback like Ross D.

    And for what end?

    Something I have observed in life is crazy attracts crazy.

    I can't really say if Mario the 9/11 truther guy here is telling the truth that two of his former friends decided to conspire to "destroy" him, recorded hours of personal conversations, and then had one of their younger relatives enroll in his class, then take it over and "in front of the class of 70 students, [reveal] all sorts of stuff about my life, including personal stuff going back to my early teens."

    But I know not to completely doubt his story because of the crazy attracts crazy and repels sanity principle, even though this sort of thing is really far from anything I've experienced IRL or my accumulated direct observations about human behavior.

    First, you say I assigned an “Israel did 9/11” book. It is apparent that you haven’t read the book and don’t know what you are talking about. In fact I assigned a book that more or less exonerates Israel. In paragraph three of the chapter titled “Israel,” Ruppert states:

    “And I should say at the outset that none of my research has found any compelling data to suggest that Israel was the architect or mastermind of the attacks of September 11…It would have been impossible for the Israeli government to have so compromised US intelligence, military, economic, and political systems as to have had control of the operation, not to mention the full and unquestioning cooperation of the American mid-level functionaries needed to execute it.”

    It’s kind of funny, but my attacker didn’t do the extra credit assignment, and didn’t read any of the book either. He told me so, saying “I’m not going to read that crap.” But, like you, he accused Ruppert (and me) of peddling the same “Israel did 9/11” line. You would think that he would be happy that I assigned a text that exonerates Israel, but no.

    It’s amazing how people can be so sure that they know something when they are completely ignorant of that very thing. As I go through life, I keep finding that two things often go together: ignorance and arrogance. At first it might seem counter-intuitive, but if you think about it, it really makes sense. Arrogance breeds ignorance, because why seek more knowledge if you are convinced you already know. On the other hand, the more you learn the more you discover how little you know, and thus, learning is a humbling experience.

    Second, you insult me by calling me crazy. With all due respect, you have never met me, and don’t know me. As before, you are rushing to judgment, and employing the same ad hominem, diversionary, shaming tactics that I experienced in front of my class that day. Again, ignorance and arrogance.

    Birds of a feather…

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