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This place looks nice (except for the tank)

There’s much discussion in the press about where it would be best for Arab refugees from Syria to settle: Would they be best off in Munich? London? Reykjavik? Or Minneapolis? Which white people most need the blessings of diversity provided by Sunnis and Shi’ites? (Obviously, Syrian Arabs couldn’t go to other Arab countries like Qatar. Don’t be silly.)

The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents. If you are a young fellow in your prime, why should you have to settle for a refugee camp in neighboring Turkey when there are Swedish girls unmolested in Malmo and English girls unpimped in Rotherham?

Think of The Children!

The Children

More of The Children:

Granted, most of the other times the West has imported lots of Muslims, we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place.

But, that’s irrelevant, because This Time Will Be Different!

Why?

Because. Just because.

Or maybe just because you shouldn’t mention the other times. It’s not nice.

Yet, it only now occurred to me that there is a place that would be ideal for Syrian refugees. I’ve never heard it discussed in the press as a natural refuge for Syrians, but:

- It has great views.

- It has a lovely sunny climate

- Yet the temperatures are mild and there is good rainfall for agriculture due to the moderately high altitude (about 1,000 meters on average).

- This place even has a ski resort! (It doesn’t, however, seem to have any golf courses, but as the picture at the top shows, it has lots of rolling open land ideal for golf.)

- It’s quite under-populated relative to its carrying capacity. It’s hard to find exact numbers, but this region appears to be about 500 square miles in size with a present day population of somewhere around 40,000.

- The population today seems to be less than half of what it was a half century ago.

- It’s conveniently, even extremely close to Syria.

- And yet, this region is an island of peace and law & order under a strong, sophisticated government in a state with a prosperous economy.

- If there is any government in the world hardnosed enough to keep Syrian Sunnis and Shi’ites from killing each other, it’s this government.

- In fact, a fair number of Syrians are descended from people who used to live there. Some of the middle-aged and elderly Syrian refugees even lived here themselves before being driven out.

- Indeed, this place is still recognized as Syria’s own national territory by almost all the countries of the world.

Where is it?

Why, the Golan Heights, of course.

But, for some reason, the American press never seems to bring up the Golan Heights as a natural destination for Syrian refugees.

Instead, Syrians should all move to Europe.

Or maybe to America.

It’s inevitable. There is no stopping them.

Except they seem to be completely stopped from moving to the Golan Heights, which looks like a pretty okay place.

But the Golan Heights never seems to come up.

Funny how that works.

UPDATE on 9/6/2015:

Israel Responds to Europe’s Surrender to Illegal Infiltrators Yesterday by Starting Final Border Fence This Morning

 
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  1. Israel has actually been treating some Syrian casualties from the civil war there, casualties who, presumably, come across via the Golan Heights. The NYT reported on this a while back, but here’s a JPost article on it from last year: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Israel-has-found-itself-enmeshed-in-complex-Syrian-refugee-crisis-340072

    An excerpt which, perhaps unwittingly, raises the question you raise in this post [italics mine]:

    Yossi Melman, a leading national security analyst who has written extensively about Syria, told the Post, “Zionism would not collapse if we accept 200 refugees. Why not?’” Hadas Ziv, public outreach director for PHR-Israel, told the Post last week that Israel should press the UN to set up a safe haven in Syria, near the Israeli border, to create a humanitarian escape corridor.

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    • Replies: @silviosilver
    Pinsen, that's a hoot.

    Yossi Melman, a leading national security analyst who has written extensively about Syria, told the Post, “Zionism would not collapse if we accept 200 refugees. Why not?’”
     
    Hahahaha.

    Oh man oh man.

    200 refugees. How big of him.
    , @Anonymous
    You do know why Israel has treated Syrian jihad casualties, right? It is completely connected with their facilitating the overthrow of Assad. They have even betrayed the one group that doesn't hate them, Druze, on behalf of radical Sunnis. Their perfidy has no limits.
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  2. As I remember it, the Syrians received a big time humiliation back in ’73.
    Of course this lead to the oil crisis.
    And as us old bastards know full well, *that* little incident well and truly f*died up the west. The post 1945 good times never came back.

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  3. Sweet Jesus, I was looking at a Daily Mail article and the pictures were shocking. HUGE numbers of fighting age males coming over, way more than the old men, women and children. How many of these are plants? (ISIS threatened to do so a while back.) How many are going to go all Charlie Hebdo? What a colossal clusterfuck.

    I ran some numbers. If the refugee total reaching Germany doubles next year, they will have taken in 2.6 million refugees in three years time. (Doubling is a conservative estimate, as the number quadrupled from 2013 to 2014 estimates, and I see no reason to assume things are going to get better.) That’s a population increase of about 3.25%. How in the Hell is Germany supposed to absorb that number? These people have little (if any) of anything. They’re blowing it all. The crazy bastards (the EUs leadership class) are blowing it all up.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    How many are Pakistanis and Bangladeshis impersonating Syrians?
    , @Dave Pinsen
    In the past, there were German settlements in Turkey and the Caucuses. Maybe once all the Syrians move to Germany, Germans can settle in Syria?
    , @Erik Sieven
    the EU leaders are doing not much. The national leaders in Germany are those who beg for millions after millions.
    , @EdwardTeach
    Any country that lets them in will soon find out that these are not poor "refugees" but an invading army.
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  4. Mr Netanyahu, tear down this wall!

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Ha! Except the East Germans were trying to get out and Gorbachev's wall was trapping them in. Hardly comparable to Netanyahu.
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  5. If there was a sudden influx of refugees approaching the Golan Heights from Syria, Israel might have a dilemma on its hands, and contingency plans exist for such an occurrence. But for whatever reason, that hasn’t happened. I’m sure the southwestern Daraa region of Syria has sent out its share of emigrants and refugees (though perhaps less than regions of Syria where ISIS has a presence) but they seem to prefer going to nearby Jordan.

    In general it’d be good to get some data on where exactly in Syria these people are coming from.

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    • Replies: @IHTG
    Another problem with the Golan Heights as the destination for Sunni Syrian refugees is that half the population of the Heights is comprised of Syrian Druze who are hostile (on one occasion, murderously so) to the Syrian opposition. Indeed, even when talking about those contingency plans for taking in refugees, the area seems to earmarked for non-Sunni populations. The idea of taking Druze and even Alawites into the Golan has been floated in the Israel media, but never Sunnis.
    , @TWS
    They have a contingency plan. It's called razor wire and 105mm 'pills' chock full of minerals and vitamins.
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  6. Ski resort? I’m sold! Where can I sign up??

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    • Replies: @Karl
    >> Ski resort? I’m sold! Where can I sign up??


    Just go to the Ramat ha-Golan Regional Council building in Katzrin. Shmooze with the civil servants during lunch at the local felafel joints. Golan is able to absorb skilled labor.

    The Russian Christians are tolerated without much visible rancor. They pay taxes, report to the induction center when the letter arrives, pick up 50-100 Hebrew words, and don't foment very much random violence. The RamatAviv stand-up comics make hay off the Russkies, but no one can show me an Israeli neighborhood council that blackballed a Russian FOR BEING Russian.

    You're a saint compared to the Russians - someone will find you a middle-class job. Come with a nest-egg of a few thou $ to tide you over until that happens. No one will demand to inspect your circumcision.

    Bring winter clothes.
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  7. Sweden’s only hope to capture the women’s bantam weight mma title from American Rowdy Rhonda Roussey is Swede, by way of Iran, Pannie Sexy Scramble Kianzad. Don’t ruin it with your immigration politics , Sweden needs more immigrants.

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  8. @IHTG
    If there was a sudden influx of refugees approaching the Golan Heights from Syria, Israel might have a dilemma on its hands, and contingency plans exist for such an occurrence. But for whatever reason, that hasn't happened. I'm sure the southwestern Daraa region of Syria has sent out its share of emigrants and refugees (though perhaps less than regions of Syria where ISIS has a presence) but they seem to prefer going to nearby Jordan.

    In general it'd be good to get some data on where exactly in Syria these people are coming from.

    Another problem with the Golan Heights as the destination for Sunni Syrian refugees is that half the population of the Heights is comprised of Syrian Druze who are hostile (on one occasion, murderously so) to the Syrian opposition. Indeed, even when talking about those contingency plans for taking in refugees, the area seems to earmarked for non-Sunni populations. The idea of taking Druze and even Alawites into the Golan has been floated in the Israel media, but never Sunnis.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    But the sunnis are murderously hostile to the west, so why must we take them?
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  9. @Gato de la Biblioteca
    Sweet Jesus, I was looking at a Daily Mail article and the pictures were shocking. HUGE numbers of fighting age males coming over, way more than the old men, women and children. How many of these are plants? (ISIS threatened to do so a while back.) How many are going to go all Charlie Hebdo? What a colossal clusterfuck.

    I ran some numbers. If the refugee total reaching Germany doubles next year, they will have taken in 2.6 million refugees in three years time. (Doubling is a conservative estimate, as the number quadrupled from 2013 to 2014 estimates, and I see no reason to assume things are going to get better.) That's a population increase of about 3.25%. How in the Hell is Germany supposed to absorb that number? These people have little (if any) of anything. They're blowing it all. The crazy bastards (the EUs leadership class) are blowing it all up.

    How many are Pakistanis and Bangladeshis impersonating Syrians?

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  10. @Gato de la Biblioteca
    Sweet Jesus, I was looking at a Daily Mail article and the pictures were shocking. HUGE numbers of fighting age males coming over, way more than the old men, women and children. How many of these are plants? (ISIS threatened to do so a while back.) How many are going to go all Charlie Hebdo? What a colossal clusterfuck.

    I ran some numbers. If the refugee total reaching Germany doubles next year, they will have taken in 2.6 million refugees in three years time. (Doubling is a conservative estimate, as the number quadrupled from 2013 to 2014 estimates, and I see no reason to assume things are going to get better.) That's a population increase of about 3.25%. How in the Hell is Germany supposed to absorb that number? These people have little (if any) of anything. They're blowing it all. The crazy bastards (the EUs leadership class) are blowing it all up.

    In the past, there were German settlements in Turkey and the Caucuses. Maybe once all the Syrians move to Germany, Germans can settle in Syria?

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    • Replies: @theo the kraut
    >German settlements in Turkey and the Caucuses
    Where, exactly? I only know of Stalin's forced resettlements of ethnic Germans to Kazakhstan, Germany's short-lived WWII military incursion to the Caucasus, Germany's WWI military advisers to Turkey, and some German WWII refugees living in Turkey, most leaving after the war.
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  11. Failing that suggestion, and given that the West must take all the world’s detritus, the most compassionate solution is for every country to put it to the vote.

    A national plebiscite with the question: “Are you a racist?” with two options, yes or no.

    Those postcodes/ZIP codes with the highest “no” turn out, above 60%, get the immigrants.

    Furthermore, those answering no will be registered with the tax office to have an additional levy on their annual return to pay for the land reclamations for public housing to be built in their suburbs as well as the new infrastructure.

    The total amount of refugee intake equals the total amount of no votes for each winning postcode.

    On top of the individual levy that person is also personally liable for one refugee for 10 years. That is, all expenses incurred whether criminal, civil, unemployment benefits etc . The refugee must also have their place of residence in that postcode.

    People who voted no but were in a losing suburb can still opt in to sponsor a refugee’s expenses using their own property and a garnishee of their wages as guarantee.

    Church groups too can opt in on the scheme using their property and income as insurance.

    It’s a win-win in that anti-racists can finally demonstrate their bona fides and the refugees are not subject to having to live in racist postcodes.

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    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Quite a modest proposal I agree.

    You mis-interpret the logic of progressive taxation. Leftists in theory want the rich taxed harder, and the wealth redistributed. The rich can be taxed at a higher rate, because they can "afford it".

    The left views racism/privilege in the same light, therefore racists must bear the highest burden. The Lords of Cambridge, MA, are poor in racism, so they get the racial equivalent of the EITC.
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  12. Golan Heights!! LOL.

    It popped into my head right away too.

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  13. Two things that never end with the Tribe.

    Gulf Wars and Golf Wars.

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  14. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The Reuters dispatch yesterday about unemployed anesthesiologist Syrians in Sweden & Norway, which the wire service bizarrely calls “the Nordics” (not in reporting about any biker gangs AFAICT), was notably retarded. In their list of bad consequences of a flood of jobless Arabs they put “fueling far right parties” in the top priority spot; I would think the most salient bad effect to be: flood of jobless Arabs. Also they cited the Copenhagen synagogue attack as evidence of “hostility to immigrants” — sorta sounds like it could be hostility *from* them, too, doesn’t it?

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  16. @Dave Pinsen
    Israel has actually been treating some Syrian casualties from the civil war there, casualties who, presumably, come across via the Golan Heights. The NYT reported on this a while back, but here's a JPost article on it from last year: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Israel-has-found-itself-enmeshed-in-complex-Syrian-refugee-crisis-340072

    An excerpt which, perhaps unwittingly, raises the question you raise in this post [italics mine]:

    Yossi Melman, a leading national security analyst who has written extensively about Syria, told the Post, “Zionism would not collapse if we accept 200 refugees. Why not?’” Hadas Ziv, public outreach director for PHR-Israel, told the Post last week that Israel should press the UN to set up a safe haven in Syria, near the Israeli border, to create a humanitarian escape corridor.
     

    Pinsen, that’s a hoot.

    Yossi Melman, a leading national security analyst who has written extensively about Syria, told the Post, “Zionism would not collapse if we accept 200 refugees. Why not?’”

    Hahahaha.

    Oh man oh man.

    200 refugees. How big of him.

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  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    A contender for the job as leader of Britain’s Labour Party has, the way all good socialists like to do, proposed that each town and city in the UK takes 10 families of refugees. This would make no difference in towns like Rotherham, but might affect places without sufficient diversity yet. But they aren’t all families flocking to find jobs in the west (where, as anyone can see, there aren’t many at all) but consist of many young men whose need for female contact will lead to, well, the sort of problem Rotherham discovered recently. As many of these eager males are coming from countries where there is already more males than females then they probably can’t wait to arrive in places where women are allowed to wander out alone at night.

    No matter: we are doing our bit to help the world. Like Saudi Arabia and China and… what? They aren’t taking any refugees? Shameful! Still it is good to know they will play their part in the UN by demanding the west takes more and more.

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    • Replies: @ABN
    Don't we read from from time to time about ghost cities in China built by corrupt officials and real estate speculators?

    How about the Chinese fill some of those ill-conceived spec metropoles with Arabs? I mean, the CCP still believes in proletarians of the world uniting and all that...don't they?
    , @Lot
    The dead truck migrants were 85% adult men, the rest women and children.

    The male to female ratio in Calais seems to be about 10 to 1.
    , @tbraton
    I think this is from a time before China's one child policy, but the idea may still hold. Giddy from his success in pressuring the Soviet Union through the Jackson-Vanek Amendment to allow Jews to leave the oppressive regime they helped create, Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson of Washington decided to work his magic on the Communist Chinese after Nixon had reestablished diplomatic relations. Encountering leader Deng Xiaoping at a reception, Sen. Jackson started his spiel about Communist China letting go some Chinese whose freedom of religion was being suppressed. OK, said Deng, how many do you want? Ten million? Thirty million? Forty million? Sen. Jackson gulped and quickly changed the subject.
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  18. “The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents.”

    I know you’ve just taken up Trumpet, but haven’t the governments of some of “the nicest countries” fomented the wars in Syria and Libya, to cite but two? Other contributors to this site can enlighten you about that.

    I read and enjoy your blog. But this post is Smugly American.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Yep, had to agree with that. Israel has worked full-time for quite awhile to disrupt and destabilise each and every one of its neighbors, and Syria always enjoyed special attention.

    "Oded Yinon"
    , @bomag
    but haven’t the governments of some of “the nicest countries” fomented the wars ...

    By all means, let the responsible gov't agencies and people involved put up the refugees in their homes and offices.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "I know you’ve just taken up Trumpet, but haven’t the governments of some of “the nicest countries” fomented the wars in Syria and Libya, to cite but two? Other contributors to this site can enlighten you about that."

    The governments, yes. The people, no. I propose instead that those government officials, politicians, journalists, and think-tank wonks who think that "we" should fight ISIS be given a rifle and a one-way ticket to Syria. They can then fight the good fight on thier own. What this war needs is Florsheim shoes on the ground.
    , @Qasim
    I also agree.

    And this isn't the first post where Mr. Sailer has veered into bigoted comments toward Muslims.

    And before people start blasting me, let me say a few things. This is my favorite blog. I agree that immigration needs to be severely curtailed or even stopped, and that the influx of people from the third world threatens to irrevocably alter the West for the worse.

    But there is just a meanness in many of the comments that Mr. Sailer writes about Muslims that is absent when he talks about say, the bad behavior of poor blacks and Mexicans or the outsized influence of Jews.

    Granted, most of the other times the West has imported lots of Muslims, we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place.

    This reminds me of the Trump comment about rapist Mexicans. And like that comment, it unfairly vilifies a whole group, and ends up obscuring the main issue that the problem with too much immigration is that it will probably lead to Balkanization, and that this is the case even if every immigrant is a saint.

    And as far as the Rotterham thing, 99.9% of Muslims would be thrilled if those people were tried, convicted, and put in front of a firing squad. Why should Muslims as a whole keep getting browbeaten about this, especially when it was the white authorities who knew about what was going on and didn't step in because they were pathetically worried about seeming racist and weren't too concerned with the low-class whites that were predominantly the victims?

    Just because the whole "punching down" thing has become a hackneyed cliché doesn't mean it is completely devoid of any truth.
    , @Anonymous
    «haven’t the governments of some of “the nicest countries” fomented the wars in Syria and Libya»
    Wait.. Did Germany and Sweden had something to do with the interventions in Iraq and Libya? I seem to recall they were very much against the intervention in Iraq and didn't participate in it.
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  19. @guest
    "The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents."

    I know you've just taken up Trumpet, but haven't the governments of some of "the nicest countries" fomented the wars in Syria and Libya, to cite but two? Other contributors to this site can enlighten you about that.

    I read and enjoy your blog. But this post is Smugly American.

    Yep, had to agree with that. Israel has worked full-time for quite awhile to disrupt and destabilise each and every one of its neighbors, and Syria always enjoyed special attention.

    “Oded Yinon”

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  20. Talk about minimalism. Nice wide fairway framed by the tank on the right and the tracks on the left. A top shot bunker/water hazard crossing the fairway as it narrows at the slight dogleg right. I assume a natural area along the right and that centerline bunker guarding the ideal lay up for a green tilted front to back and down to the left. Green is just past the men with the rifles. Par 4.5.

    My concern would be the bunch of trees just past and left of the green. Too much shade on the green? Bermuda or bent?

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    My first thought is a downhill-uphill straight hole playing right up the current dirt road to a green set amongst the eucalyptus trees on three sides.

    Eucalyptus trees at the latitude of the Golan Heights or Orange County, CA (33 degrees north) usually aren't too shady for good grass growth on greens.

    But it's hard to tell how far it is to the grassy area amidst the trees because eucalyptus trees keep growing, but after they are about 20 years old they have dark bark like these do, but then you can't really guesstimate how tall they are. Indeed, this would make a good par 4.5 where you'd have to hit something long to the green off the downslope to the creek. The Westchester CC has several holes like this where a big hitter has to worry about laying up short of the creek, but then there's the risk of slicing a long iron off a downhill lie. It's not uncommon to see this kind of downhill-uphill hole as the #1 handicap hole even without much in the way of bunkers simply because a long approach shot off a downhill lie is easy to miss right.

    It would be nice to have this kind of non-precipitous land at moderate altitude in Southern California, but I can't think of any golf courses like this. There are some meadows south of Mt. San Jacinto at about 4000+ feet:

    http://sdfoodtravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/020613_1830_IdyllwildGe1.jpg

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  21. @Pat Hannagan
    Failing that suggestion, and given that the West must take all the world's detritus, the most compassionate solution is for every country to put it to the vote.

    A national plebiscite with the question: "Are you a racist?" with two options, yes or no.

    Those postcodes/ZIP codes with the highest "no" turn out, above 60%, get the immigrants.

    Furthermore, those answering no will be registered with the tax office to have an additional levy on their annual return to pay for the land reclamations for public housing to be built in their suburbs as well as the new infrastructure.

    The total amount of refugee intake equals the total amount of no votes for each winning postcode.

    On top of the individual levy that person is also personally liable for one refugee for 10 years. That is, all expenses incurred whether criminal, civil, unemployment benefits etc . The refugee must also have their place of residence in that postcode.

    People who voted no but were in a losing suburb can still opt in to sponsor a refugee's expenses using their own property and a garnishee of their wages as guarantee.

    Church groups too can opt in on the scheme using their property and income as insurance.

    It's a win-win in that anti-racists can finally demonstrate their bona fides and the refugees are not subject to having to live in racist postcodes.

    Quite a modest proposal I agree.

    You mis-interpret the logic of progressive taxation. Leftists in theory want the rich taxed harder, and the wealth redistributed. The rich can be taxed at a higher rate, because they can “afford it”.

    The left views racism/privilege in the same light, therefore racists must bear the highest burden. The Lords of Cambridge, MA, are poor in racism, so they get the racial equivalent of the EITC.

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  22. […] Steve Sailer is not afraid to ask the hard questions. […]

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  23. @hodag
    Talk about minimalism. Nice wide fairway framed by the tank on the right and the tracks on the left. A top shot bunker/water hazard crossing the fairway as it narrows at the slight dogleg right. I assume a natural area along the right and that centerline bunker guarding the ideal lay up for a green tilted front to back and down to the left. Green is just past the men with the rifles. Par 4.5.

    My concern would be the bunch of trees just past and left of the green. Too much shade on the green? Bermuda or bent?

    My first thought is a downhill-uphill straight hole playing right up the current dirt road to a green set amongst the eucalyptus trees on three sides.

    Eucalyptus trees at the latitude of the Golan Heights or Orange County, CA (33 degrees north) usually aren’t too shady for good grass growth on greens.

    But it’s hard to tell how far it is to the grassy area amidst the trees because eucalyptus trees keep growing, but after they are about 20 years old they have dark bark like these do, but then you can’t really guesstimate how tall they are. Indeed, this would make a good par 4.5 where you’d have to hit something long to the green off the downslope to the creek. The Westchester CC has several holes like this where a big hitter has to worry about laying up short of the creek, but then there’s the risk of slicing a long iron off a downhill lie. It’s not uncommon to see this kind of downhill-uphill hole as the #1 handicap hole even without much in the way of bunkers simply because a long approach shot off a downhill lie is easy to miss right.

    It would be nice to have this kind of non-precipitous land at moderate altitude in Southern California, but I can’t think of any golf courses like this. There are some meadows south of Mt. San Jacinto at about 4000+ feet:

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    My thought was a longer 16th at Pastiempo. I just clicked on the big picture and noticed the stone wall there short of both of our greens...I was thinking a chocolate drop type complex over there, I would leave the wall.

    But us amateurs tend to gild the lilly a bit, yes?
    , @Gato de la Biblioteca
    Golf nerds....
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  24. “The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents.”

    Yes, our twentieth century refugee model was quite different. We accepted refugees from states with aggressive governments that were well organized enough to present military threats. The emigres came from sections of the population with enough character to oppose these governments.

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  25. @Dave Pinsen
    Israel has actually been treating some Syrian casualties from the civil war there, casualties who, presumably, come across via the Golan Heights. The NYT reported on this a while back, but here's a JPost article on it from last year: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Israel-has-found-itself-enmeshed-in-complex-Syrian-refugee-crisis-340072

    An excerpt which, perhaps unwittingly, raises the question you raise in this post [italics mine]:

    Yossi Melman, a leading national security analyst who has written extensively about Syria, told the Post, “Zionism would not collapse if we accept 200 refugees. Why not?’” Hadas Ziv, public outreach director for PHR-Israel, told the Post last week that Israel should press the UN to set up a safe haven in Syria, near the Israeli border, to create a humanitarian escape corridor.
     

    You do know why Israel has treated Syrian jihad casualties, right? It is completely connected with their facilitating the overthrow of Assad. They have even betrayed the one group that doesn’t hate them, Druze, on behalf of radical Sunnis. Their perfidy has no limits.

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    Israeli policy towards their Arab neighbors (not many Christians left in the area) is similar to Roman policy to Germania after the Romans got slaughtered in the battle of Teutoburg Forest.

    Use auxiliary, mercenary Germanic tribes in border areas - foment tribal conflict in outside Rome Germany so German tribes never unite, march on Rome, sack Rome create a Dark Age.

    The policy worked pretty well until some Jew inspired Jewish cult Judeo Christianity invented/fomented by the former Pharisee Saul or Tarsus, St. Paul preached some slave religion that "There are no Greeks and Jews, no men or women, free or slaves just those who have accepted Jesus Christ".

    This early form of Neo Conservatism (some Jew supposedly saw the light, error of his Lib Left anti Christ ways on THE ROAD TO DAMASCUS SYRIA) eventually poisoned the will of Roman authorities and negated the very practical, effective Roman policy towards Germany. I doubt if the Israelis will make the same mistake with their very effective practical policies with their Arab/Muslim neighbors.
    , @IHTG
    The Syrian Druze are no friends of Israel. Another Druze, Samir Kuntar (Google him) is said to have friends in those parts.

    Nevertheless, taking into consideration the ethnic solidarity of the loyal Israeli Druze, Israel has made it clear that ethnic cleansing of the Golan Druze by Sunnis will not be tolerated. And indeed, somehow, despite southwestern Syria being almost entirely in Sunni rebel hands, they're being left alone. So where's the betrayal again?

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  26. I don’t have anything intelligent to say about this, but I do like the word “unpimped”.

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  27. Hey, there is an extremely good reason Israel refuses to take Syrian refugees. From Business Insider:

    Israel, which shares its northern border with Syria, has steadfastly refused to receive refugees.

    Yuval Ben-Ami, an Israeli journalist and author based in Jaffa, told Business Insider, “at this point in its history, Israel seems determined to barricade itself, primarily of its immediate neighborhood.”

    Ben-Ami says the idea of Israel accepting Syrian refugees is “extremely foreign” to Israelis, and that even refugee advocates speak little about the Syrian issue because it seems fruitless.

    “Refugees who do arrive in Israel, mostly from conflict zones in East Africa, are treated as infiltrators. Thousands of them are currently detained without trial in a large scale desert facility designed for this very purpose,” he said.

    Can’t really argue with “extremely foreign” now can we.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-countries-taking-syrias-refugees-2014-9#ixzz3kg03D0Fe

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  28. Bottom of the ocean?

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  29. @Steve Sailer
    My first thought is a downhill-uphill straight hole playing right up the current dirt road to a green set amongst the eucalyptus trees on three sides.

    Eucalyptus trees at the latitude of the Golan Heights or Orange County, CA (33 degrees north) usually aren't too shady for good grass growth on greens.

    But it's hard to tell how far it is to the grassy area amidst the trees because eucalyptus trees keep growing, but after they are about 20 years old they have dark bark like these do, but then you can't really guesstimate how tall they are. Indeed, this would make a good par 4.5 where you'd have to hit something long to the green off the downslope to the creek. The Westchester CC has several holes like this where a big hitter has to worry about laying up short of the creek, but then there's the risk of slicing a long iron off a downhill lie. It's not uncommon to see this kind of downhill-uphill hole as the #1 handicap hole even without much in the way of bunkers simply because a long approach shot off a downhill lie is easy to miss right.

    It would be nice to have this kind of non-precipitous land at moderate altitude in Southern California, but I can't think of any golf courses like this. There are some meadows south of Mt. San Jacinto at about 4000+ feet:

    http://sdfoodtravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/020613_1830_IdyllwildGe1.jpg

    My thought was a longer 16th at Pastiempo. I just clicked on the big picture and noticed the stone wall there short of both of our greens…I was thinking a chocolate drop type complex over there, I would leave the wall.

    But us amateurs tend to gild the lilly a bit, yes?

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  30. […] [email protected] (VD) It’s a humane and entirely practical solution too. Who could possibly object?There’s much discussion in the press about where it would be […]

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  31. What are you guys upset about? The Syrians are white(ish). Give them some good nutrition and education and in one Generation 10,000,000 more Germans.

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    the problem is that many of the refugees are sunni muslims. If it were mostly christians people this would really be not such a big problem
    , @Bill B.
    Yeah but the Syrian refugees are mostly Sunni muslim. Surely they would fit much better within some of the 57 member states of the organisation of Islamic Cooperation?

    Yet Muslim countries show remarkably little interest in taking refugees unless it is absolutely unavoidable eg Jordan, Turkey. Lets face it OIC members don't give a sh*t.

    Even this Muslim philanthropist wants to help but only if it means planting them in Europe:

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/contents/afp/2015/09/europe-migrants-egypt-island.html

    (Pace several commentators here: Syria erupted as part of the Arab Spring that started spontaneously in Tunis and the vile ISIS has been fuelled mostly by Arab powers. Turkey's Islamist rulers also wanted to take down Assad as part of a scheme to expand its influence. The West does not own this particular problem.)
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  32. Fighting-age men fleeing their homeland… what a bunch of cowards! Aren’t they helping ISIS gain more traction by just giving up.

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  33. @guest
    "The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents."

    I know you've just taken up Trumpet, but haven't the governments of some of "the nicest countries" fomented the wars in Syria and Libya, to cite but two? Other contributors to this site can enlighten you about that.

    I read and enjoy your blog. But this post is Smugly American.

    but haven’t the governments of some of “the nicest countries” fomented the wars …

    By all means, let the responsible gov’t agencies and people involved put up the refugees in their homes and offices.

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  34. The days that a Pym Fortune could solve the problem are past. Your choices now are Golden Dawn or Vlad Tepes. There is plenty of open space in Saudi Arabia, but no 6yo infidel girls to rape for free(ISIS has a pricelist of sex slaves). Just as I don’t want more taken out of my paycheck because Latrina squatted out more crackbabies, I have no desire to finance moslem beheaders in the US or Europe. I enjoyed my trips to Europe even though when I was in Paris, the blacks where revolting.

    The Boston Marathon Brothers had 3 gay next door neighbors beheaded a year before the marathon but no one was un-PC enough to ask “who beheads gays”. The Boston Marathon moslems came over via the Refugee Resettlement program and leeched off welfare, & even used taxpayer grants to buy a car.http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/programs/ida/about
    Ali Mohammad Brown was a black moslem that serial killed gays in 3 states and was caught 2 weeks after the Ferguson Liquor Store robber was killed.

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    "The days that a Pym Fortune could solve the problem are past. Your choices now are Golden Dawn or Vlad Tepes."

    Unfortunately, you're right. Is it a sign that we are on the right-hand side of the Peak of Everything? Exactly two years ago, the French government was eager to bomb Syria. It abandoned its deadly project at the last moment, and only because, a few hours before the Tomahawk missiles were scheduled to start flying towards Damascus, Obama changed his mind and annulled the operation. Today, it's hard to imagine France attacking Syria. And the enemy now is ISIS, rather than Assad. Even for those who are on Qatar's and Saudi Arabia's payroll, that's to say, the government and the mainstream media.

    Jean-Marie Le Pen, who would have ousted immigrants, has been replaced by his daughter, who wants to integrate immigrants, not expel them (and in order to integrate people, you need to be sure about your own identity and culture, she at least advocates that). In the suburban town where I live, whites are a minority. You can't expel others when you are a minority.

    The masks are falling. Merkel and Hollande have met today, to talk about a compulsory EU mechanism to dispatch migrants all over the EU. The countries that disagree will have their subsidies cut. There are 27 countries in the EU, but it seems that only two of them, France and Germany, can make life and death decisions for the 27. The EU parliament wasn't mentioned: no time to lose with parliamentary debates, the rulers have spoken. Cameron wasn't invited to the Merkel / Hollande discussion. If he wondered what Hollande and Merkel think of him, now he knows. Hollande's personality being what it is, the EU has one ruler nowadays: Angela Merkel.

    I have been saying for months to friends and relatives that 2015 would be "peak freedom", because after 2015 freedom in Europe would go downhill. I was right.

    Nobody seems to bother about Ukraine and Russia anymore. I expected things to become a little rough in Europe around 2020, but I was wrong. The rough times are beginning now. It is already a bit tricky to take the Eurostar to travel from Paris to London, you might be delayed for 16 hours (!), and international train service from and to Hungary is suspended, at least for the moment.

    Hungary has, roughly, the same population as Ohio. Can Americans imagine Ohio being flooded with illegal immigrants, mostly young and male, disrupting train service between Ohio and the neighboring states?

    Those hundreds of thousands of migrants that arrive in the EU are mostly young men. Once they are settled, they'll make their families come, which will quintuple their numbers. And they will actively seek women. We can expect an epidemic of rapes, looting, riots, etc. A situation only Vlad Tepes could handle, as you say.

    If we're lucky enough to have one guy like Vlad Tepes in every EU country. So far, we don't have any.

    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "There is plenty of open space in Saudi Arabia..."

    Yeah, this Republic of Leftover Sand to which you refer, is not habitable. The reason no one lives in much of Saudi Arabia, is basically because you can't. Have you ever wondered why New York City is located adjacent to Long Island Sound, rather than the Grand Tetons of Wyoming? This is why.
    , @Bill B.
    Those three were gay? I thought they were killed for being Jewish.
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  35. If you are worried about the US supporting moslem invaders like they did in Serbia under Clinton, the good news is the 68th Light Tranny Division will be sent in first. Here are their tactics

    http://funnyjunk.com/captain+sweden/funny-pictures/5302944/

    Speaking of Clinton didn’t she send armed men to take a little boy from a closet and send him back to Cuba?

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  36. It was not so long ago that the world was supposed to be some great big ball of love.

    Sadly, that’s not the way it’s gunna turn out to be.

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  37. There are other countries adjacent to Syria that have lots of land and Sunni majority populations. Like Saudi Arabia. Jew-bait much?

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    There are other countries adjacent to Syria that have lots of land and Sunni majority populations. Like Saudi Arabia. Jew-bait much?
     
    The American Jew has a history of promoting open borders, mass immigration, and racial quotas in hiring. The Saudis, not so much. So let the Jews demonstrate their principles in Israel.
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  38. @Anonymous
    A contender for the job as leader of Britain's Labour Party has, the way all good socialists like to do, proposed that each town and city in the UK takes 10 families of refugees. This would make no difference in towns like Rotherham, but might affect places without sufficient diversity yet. But they aren't all families flocking to find jobs in the west (where, as anyone can see, there aren't many at all) but consist of many young men whose need for female contact will lead to, well, the sort of problem Rotherham discovered recently. As many of these eager males are coming from countries where there is already more males than females then they probably can't wait to arrive in places where women are allowed to wander out alone at night.

    No matter: we are doing our bit to help the world. Like Saudi Arabia and China and... what? They aren't taking any refugees? Shameful! Still it is good to know they will play their part in the UN by demanding the west takes more and more.

    Don’t we read from from time to time about ghost cities in China built by corrupt officials and real estate speculators?

    How about the Chinese fill some of those ill-conceived spec metropoles with Arabs? I mean, the CCP still believes in proletarians of the world uniting and all that…don’t they?

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    The CCP historically supported leftist nationalists like the Assads and the Baathists. North Korea also has close relations with the Assad regime. The Syrian refugee crisis has been caused by US opposition to the Assad regime. If Assad, whom the CCP supports, had been left alone, there'd be no Syrian refugee crisis.

    It's the US who should accept these refugees, as it's responsible for creating them. And accepting them all would help raise US public opposition to these sorts of military interventions, which the US public still tends to support or at least ignore and tolerate.
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  39. @guest
    "The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents."

    I know you've just taken up Trumpet, but haven't the governments of some of "the nicest countries" fomented the wars in Syria and Libya, to cite but two? Other contributors to this site can enlighten you about that.

    I read and enjoy your blog. But this post is Smugly American.

    “I know you’ve just taken up Trumpet, but haven’t the governments of some of “the nicest countries” fomented the wars in Syria and Libya, to cite but two? Other contributors to this site can enlighten you about that.”

    The governments, yes. The people, no. I propose instead that those government officials, politicians, journalists, and think-tank wonks who think that “we” should fight ISIS be given a rifle and a one-way ticket to Syria. They can then fight the good fight on thier own. What this war needs is Florsheim shoes on the ground.

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  40. Interesting to note the mileage the Left is trying to get for their open borders putsch from the image of a dead child.

    How much mileage would the Right get if we posted pictures of Muslim immigrants raping young English girls in Rotherham?

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    Yes, it's ridiculous. The family were refugees while they were in Turkey, which was responsible for their plight. Once they got in the boat, they were no longer refugees.
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  41. The West was evil when it colonized these people’s countries with a thin layer of administrators.

    The West is evil when it objects to being colonized by them.

    Somehow, it’s the West that is always evil.

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    The West cannot seem to forego imperialism, at least in that part of the world, even after formally leaving that region. It simply can't abide independent states like Libya, Iraq, and Syria and would rather destroy them and create refugees and force those refugees on its own citizens. Some might consider that to be evil.
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  42. @IHTG
    If there was a sudden influx of refugees approaching the Golan Heights from Syria, Israel might have a dilemma on its hands, and contingency plans exist for such an occurrence. But for whatever reason, that hasn't happened. I'm sure the southwestern Daraa region of Syria has sent out its share of emigrants and refugees (though perhaps less than regions of Syria where ISIS has a presence) but they seem to prefer going to nearby Jordan.

    In general it'd be good to get some data on where exactly in Syria these people are coming from.

    They have a contingency plan. It’s called razor wire and 105mm ‘pills’ chock full of minerals and vitamins.

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  43. @guest
    "The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents."

    I know you've just taken up Trumpet, but haven't the governments of some of "the nicest countries" fomented the wars in Syria and Libya, to cite but two? Other contributors to this site can enlighten you about that.

    I read and enjoy your blog. But this post is Smugly American.

    I also agree.

    And this isn’t the first post where Mr. Sailer has veered into bigoted comments toward Muslims.

    And before people start blasting me, let me say a few things. This is my favorite blog. I agree that immigration needs to be severely curtailed or even stopped, and that the influx of people from the third world threatens to irrevocably alter the West for the worse.

    But there is just a meanness in many of the comments that Mr. Sailer writes about Muslims that is absent when he talks about say, the bad behavior of poor blacks and Mexicans or the outsized influence of Jews.

    Granted, most of the other times the West has imported lots of Muslims, we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place.

    This reminds me of the Trump comment about rapist Mexicans. And like that comment, it unfairly vilifies a whole group, and ends up obscuring the main issue that the problem with too much immigration is that it will probably lead to Balkanization, and that this is the case even if every immigrant is a saint.

    And as far as the Rotterham thing, 99.9% of Muslims would be thrilled if those people were tried, convicted, and put in front of a firing squad. Why should Muslims as a whole keep getting browbeaten about this, especially when it was the white authorities who knew about what was going on and didn’t step in because they were pathetically worried about seeming racist and weren’t too concerned with the low-class whites that were predominantly the victims?

    Just because the whole “punching down” thing has become a hackneyed cliché doesn’t mean it is completely devoid of any truth.

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    I can't speak for Steve (who I do not see picking on Muslims particularly) but generally I sense a global wave of irritation and fatigue with Islam.

    It might help if certain Muslims could stop slitting throats, raping sex slaves and burning people alive?

    In December the world's premier Islamic university Al-Azhar in Cairo refused to excommunicate ISIS on the grounds that they had not broken with the tenets of Islam:

    "One press report noted a degree of similarity between IS thought and Al-Azhar University's curriculum, which “allows for killing a Muslim who does not pray, one who leaves Islam, prisoners and infidels within Islam [those who do not have a clearly specified creed or sect]. [It also allows] gouging their eyes and chopping off their hands and feet, as well as banning the construction of churches and discriminating between Muslims and Ahl al-Kitab [Christians and Jews], and insulting them at times.”"

    Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/02/azhar-egypt-radicals-islamic-state-apostates.html#ixzz3ki8A9xCr

    You say that 99.9% of British Muslims were horrified by Rotherham? I don't believe you and I doubt you believe it yourself. The girls were infidel white sluts and fair game is the impression I get.

    The thin and modest denunciations of Rotherham from Muslim spokesmen have been very pro forma. The lack of a significant outcry or sense of horror in the Muslim community is the dog that did not bark. (Whining about how tough it is to be a Muslim is not, repeat not an expression of regret.)

    Yes, yes and don't bother to tell me the crown prosecutor was a Muslim. I know.
    , @cwhatfuture
    Islam is an ideology. It is a supremacist ideology which posits that it is not only legitimate to kill a man for no longer believing in that ideology, it is mandatory (under all 4 Sunni schools and under all Shia schools). It is an ideology which posits that one cannot criticize a dead man (Muhammad) without being put to death (in practice by a rampaging mob). It is an ideology which posits that non-Muslims must pay a special tax, "in humiliation and submission", or be killed when these non-Muslims live in a muslim majority land. These are the words of the Muslim god. And I could go on. These are not ancient rules which the authorities of the religion have long discarded as ancient legends, they are as current as today's paper. Muslims are people who believe in the Islamic ideology. Otherwise they are not muslims. Therefore, I think we have the right to severely criticize Muslims in the West, not for being born Muslim, not for having parents who are Muslim, not for having Arabic names, not for having brown skin (if they have it) but for what they believe, for what they are thinking. And Islam, besides for being a very specific ideology, is a culture and civilization as well. Muslims themselves refer to Islam this way. As in "Islam gave us our Wetern science" or some other such nonsense. And in that Islam, Islam as a culture existing in the world today, honor killing is prevalent, free speech is virtually non-existent, representative democracy is virtually non-existent, Christian and Jew hatred (not Zionist hatred) is widespread. And I could go on. It is not my business to tell Muslims how to live in their countries and I do not want to. And if they want to live that way, fine. But unsurprisingly when people come from that culture to the West, many of them bring these strange and repulsive attitudes and beliefs with them and this is reflected in their behavior. And I dont want to live that way at all. Islam, in both senses of the word, is a danger to the West and a danger to Western human beings.
    , @Massimo Heitor

    But there is just a meanness in many of the comments that Mr. Sailer writes about Muslims
     
    I love this site, I love the commenters, and I am glad people like you are here to warn of negativity. I don't aspire to be mean to anyone, including muslims and Africans, but mass muslim and African immigration into western Europe seems horrible. I hope you keep commenting here.

    I believe that Sailer is very pro-stereotype, because they are real patterns and trends. We should still try to give individuals a chance, do good in the world, etc.
    , @Brutusale
    Sorry, but when I see video of your coreligionists throwing gay men off the tops of buildings and bidding on 11-year old sex slaves, I guess I'm one of the meanies.

    The fact that American blacks convert to Islam at much higher rates than other demographic groups doesn't help Islamic public relations, either.
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  44. I wonder whether European governments, especially Germany, are being pressured behind the scenes by the US to take in the flood of humanity out of Syria, which has in part been precipitated by US meddling. But what explains the Iceland Facebook campaign or the positive response to the ‘refugees’ among fairly large swathes of the European public, who really ought to know better by now? So I wonder to what extent we are dealing with a phenomenon of young white women without children and older white women without grandchildren channelling unfulfilled maternal urges. How much of the current spate of Euro-derangement on display is some sort of bizarre by-product of feminism’s failure? In this regard, we can’t really hold up Israel for censure, because Jewish women in Israel actually do have children, even the secular ones. These women are too busy looking after their own households to fantasize about Mideastern moppets or swarthy young Syrian men who might come in through the door one fine day to bring some excitement into lonely lives….

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  45. Fairfax County, Virginia and Montgomery County, Maryland.

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  46. Switzerland, Germany, and the UK are nicer places to live than in Israel. Israel has a finite amount of welfare to give to refugees, whereas the EU has far more, still finite, but orders of magnitude greater. Israel is small, so the amount of refugee welfare money is small.

    Israel is also the future of White people. Surrounded by non-Whites, intent on killing each and every one, down to little girls, for jihad, that is the future of Europe now. There is no turning back. Europe up until now was relatively isolated from the Third World, outside major cities in France, the UK, and West Germany. That’s ended, and every young White male is in direct, ***VIOLENT*** competition with every young non-White male for the limited supply of White women.

    Rotherham shows the Jihadi way — forced prostitution, rape, pimping out girls as young as eight, with the host population police actively abetting the whole thing. That practically guarantees a European Likud movement, complete with violent terrorist antecedents. Irgun is the model, and likely to be effective.

    Lets also be honest here. A lot of the let the refugees in movement is coming from White women who DESPISE their male counterparts for being too cooperative, too “nice” and not violent enough. They figure they can “control” the violent jihadis and get a downscale Fifty Shades of Grey thrill every day by the violence, which believe me is aphrodisiac to women who have not been around it daily.

    Key takeaway: White Western women are if anything MORE decadent than their male counterparts, in desiring violent non-Western men to replace their own.

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    Interesting comment.... As a white western woman without children I've found myself oscillating between the rational understanding of why the flood of people is bad for Europe and the emotional, empathetic desire to help the immigrants. When I questioned my daily flip-flop in opinion I suddenly told myself: "well, I enjoyed watching the movie Samba, it looked cool there". Wonder how many Austrian or German women also watched the movie?....

    Just don't expect other women to admit it, or to even acknowledge it to themselves.
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  47. @Anonymous
    You do know why Israel has treated Syrian jihad casualties, right? It is completely connected with their facilitating the overthrow of Assad. They have even betrayed the one group that doesn't hate them, Druze, on behalf of radical Sunnis. Their perfidy has no limits.

    Israeli policy towards their Arab neighbors (not many Christians left in the area) is similar to Roman policy to Germania after the Romans got slaughtered in the battle of Teutoburg Forest.

    Use auxiliary, mercenary Germanic tribes in border areas – foment tribal conflict in outside Rome Germany so German tribes never unite, march on Rome, sack Rome create a Dark Age.

    The policy worked pretty well until some Jew inspired Jewish cult Judeo Christianity invented/fomented by the former Pharisee Saul or Tarsus, St. Paul preached some slave religion that “There are no Greeks and Jews, no men or women, free or slaves just those who have accepted Jesus Christ”.

    This early form of Neo Conservatism (some Jew supposedly saw the light, error of his Lib Left anti Christ ways on THE ROAD TO DAMASCUS SYRIA) eventually poisoned the will of Roman authorities and negated the very practical, effective Roman policy towards Germany. I doubt if the Israelis will make the same mistake with their very effective practical policies with their Arab/Muslim neighbors.

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  48. The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents. If you are a young fellow in your prime, why should you have to settle for a refugee camp in neighboring Turkey when there are Swedish girls unmolested in Malmo and English girls unpimped in Rotherham?

    You sound like the average racist (or ethnicist, maybe nationalist) idiot here.

    “you and your countrymen”
    How many of the refugees were involved in the uprising & later civil war?

    “unassailable moral claim”
    The moral claims are actually made by European or US American SJWs, not many Syrians among them, I suppose. The refugees themselves are obviously looking for the “best” place to live, quite understandably. The problem is, that through social media nowadays they easily hear stories about how nice it is in – say – Germany & they see that Germany already welcomed a lot of others. Then they obviously ask “Why them? Why not me?” Clear rules & strict enforcement of these rules probably would have prevented the current crisis (or at least minimized it). Saying that all Syrian refugees are welcome only makes it worse.

    “Swedish girls unmolested in Malmo and English girls unpimped”
    Implying that the “others” are (all) criminals in the making is pretty much a tell-tale sign of racist arseholes. Pretty disappointing that you stoop so low.

    most of the other times the West has imported lots of Muslims, we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place

    S.a.
    Coming back to the example of Germany: Most of the Turks who came there in the 60′s or 70′s have done quite well there. 2nd generation Turks integrated to quite some degree. Mostly with the 3rd generation there is a problem with growing Muslim extremism, but even among the 3rd generation extremists are a small minority.

    Most of the massacres in the US seem to be committed by whites. Does that mean that “the whites” in the US are murderers & the rest of the world should prohibit white US Americans from entering?

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    I agree, whites are maniacs who love to massacre others. It's best that nonwhites stay the hell away from those lunatics and leave them to suffer in their all white hellhole countries. Nonwhite countries are safe, prosperous, and massacre-free.
    , @sisyphus

    “Swedish girls unmolested in Malmo and English girls unpimped”
    Implying that the “others” are (all) criminals in the making is pretty much a tell-tale sign of racist arseholes. Pretty disappointing that you stoop so low.
     
    Hmm. I remember something someone once said about American blacks which probably also applies here: that nine out of ten were decent people, who will do you no harm unless you deserve it, but that #10 will be insane, and will try to kill you if he gets the chance. And if you live around large concentrations of blacks you're going to run into him sooner or later.

    I don't know how true this is, but it sounds plausible given the racial crime stats.

    How should a Good person -- someone who believes in democracy, judging individuals on the 'content of their character', and so on -- reconcile these beliefs with the personal safety of themselves and their families?
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  49. Until you hit the “ski resort” bullet point, I was sure you were going to suggest Palm Springs. Perhaps the Springs, and Malibu would take a few thousand.

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  50. AS surprising as Donald J. Trump’s political ascendance may be, it is not unprecedented. He is the latest in a long line of demagogues that have appeared throughout American history to point accusing fingers at blacks, foreigners, Masons, Jews, socialists, central bankers and others.

    My memory fails me, has there ever been an American demagogue to point an accusing finger at racists?

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    "foreigners, Masons, Jews, socialists"

    Who can forget that towering figure of American demagoguery, Charles Maurras?
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  51. @Anonymous
    A contender for the job as leader of Britain's Labour Party has, the way all good socialists like to do, proposed that each town and city in the UK takes 10 families of refugees. This would make no difference in towns like Rotherham, but might affect places without sufficient diversity yet. But they aren't all families flocking to find jobs in the west (where, as anyone can see, there aren't many at all) but consist of many young men whose need for female contact will lead to, well, the sort of problem Rotherham discovered recently. As many of these eager males are coming from countries where there is already more males than females then they probably can't wait to arrive in places where women are allowed to wander out alone at night.

    No matter: we are doing our bit to help the world. Like Saudi Arabia and China and... what? They aren't taking any refugees? Shameful! Still it is good to know they will play their part in the UN by demanding the west takes more and more.

    The dead truck migrants were 85% adult men, the rest women and children.

    The male to female ratio in Calais seems to be about 10 to 1.

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  52. @Steve Sailer
    My first thought is a downhill-uphill straight hole playing right up the current dirt road to a green set amongst the eucalyptus trees on three sides.

    Eucalyptus trees at the latitude of the Golan Heights or Orange County, CA (33 degrees north) usually aren't too shady for good grass growth on greens.

    But it's hard to tell how far it is to the grassy area amidst the trees because eucalyptus trees keep growing, but after they are about 20 years old they have dark bark like these do, but then you can't really guesstimate how tall they are. Indeed, this would make a good par 4.5 where you'd have to hit something long to the green off the downslope to the creek. The Westchester CC has several holes like this where a big hitter has to worry about laying up short of the creek, but then there's the risk of slicing a long iron off a downhill lie. It's not uncommon to see this kind of downhill-uphill hole as the #1 handicap hole even without much in the way of bunkers simply because a long approach shot off a downhill lie is easy to miss right.

    It would be nice to have this kind of non-precipitous land at moderate altitude in Southern California, but I can't think of any golf courses like this. There are some meadows south of Mt. San Jacinto at about 4000+ feet:

    http://sdfoodtravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/020613_1830_IdyllwildGe1.jpg

    Golf nerds….

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  53. @Anonymous
    You do know why Israel has treated Syrian jihad casualties, right? It is completely connected with their facilitating the overthrow of Assad. They have even betrayed the one group that doesn't hate them, Druze, on behalf of radical Sunnis. Their perfidy has no limits.

    The Syrian Druze are no friends of Israel. Another Druze, Samir Kuntar (Google him) is said to have friends in those parts.

    Nevertheless, taking into consideration the ethnic solidarity of the loyal Israeli Druze, Israel has made it clear that ethnic cleansing of the Golan Druze by Sunnis will not be tolerated. And indeed, somehow, despite southwestern Syria being almost entirely in Sunni rebel hands, they’re being left alone. So where’s the betrayal again?

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  54. Well Cameron has bowed to pressure, a photo of a dead boy. The West is ruled by a bunch of wimps.

    If it wasn’t for the Hungarian leader they’d be 1million Syrians alone. He may not be able to hold out much longer either.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/03/cameron-bows-to-pressure-to-allow-more-syrian-refugees-into-britain

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  55. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @ABN
    Don't we read from from time to time about ghost cities in China built by corrupt officials and real estate speculators?

    How about the Chinese fill some of those ill-conceived spec metropoles with Arabs? I mean, the CCP still believes in proletarians of the world uniting and all that...don't they?

    The CCP historically supported leftist nationalists like the Assads and the Baathists. North Korea also has close relations with the Assad regime. The Syrian refugee crisis has been caused by US opposition to the Assad regime. If Assad, whom the CCP supports, had been left alone, there’d be no Syrian refugee crisis.

    It’s the US who should accept these refugees, as it’s responsible for creating them. And accepting them all would help raise US public opposition to these sorts of military interventions, which the US public still tends to support or at least ignore and tolerate.

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    It’s the US who should accept these refugees, as it’s responsible for creating them. And accepting them all would help raise US public opposition to these sorts of military interventions, which the US public still tends to support or at least ignore and tolerate.
     
    I would agree that we should not have backed the rebels in Syria or sought to overthrow Assad. I think that 20th-century secular dictatorships like the Baathists may be the least of competing evils, and in any case the internal affairs of foreign states are not, in general, any of our business.

    Having said that, as far as moral responsibility goes, I think intent counts for something, and it has been the intent of Americans to provide Syria (as well as Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan) with governments that are neither retrograde dictatorships nor jihadist theocracies. (Some of our leaders may have ulterior motives, but I'm talking about the general public.) Democracy promotion may be BS, but it's BS for which Americans have sacrificed blood and treasure (including in Syria; airstrikes aren't cheap). So it's not clear how much moral responsibility the US and other Western countries have for a situation (misery in Syria) that their (admittedly ham-fisted and counter-productive) intervention is aimed at mitigating. Moral responsibility is not quite the same thing as material causality.

    One other thing worth pointing out is that Western governments can't be trusted to admit refugees exclusively as refugees. The various political and economic interests pushing mass immigration will ensure that anyone who steps into the country as a refugee ends up staying forever. I'd be more willing to take in refugees if I could have some assurance that their sojourn would be temporary and that they would go home when the opportunity arose. Ironically, the leftists' desire to sign up every economically motivated pseudo-refugee on the planet for citizenship and government benefits forever and ever may end up turning the public against accommodating actual war refugees.
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  56. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    The West was evil when it colonized these people's countries with a thin layer of administrators.

    The West is evil when it objects to being colonized by them.

    Somehow, it's the West that is always evil.

    The West cannot seem to forego imperialism, at least in that part of the world, even after formally leaving that region. It simply can’t abide independent states like Libya, Iraq, and Syria and would rather destroy them and create refugees and force those refugees on its own citizens. Some might consider that to be evil.

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  57. Thanks for the Golan Heights photos but you are straining at humor here. Israel is a Jewish nation similar to the way some of the Arab nations call themselves Muslim nations and Muslim republics. So Israel will not allowing a few million Muslims refugees to take over the Golan. This would change Israel from Jewish nation to mongrel nation. Israel should take in 50,000 Christian Arab refugees. Well vetted ones.

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  58. What’s clear is that the mass movement of so many people is a public order issue. 10 asylum seekers are poor wretches. 1000 is a crowd control issue. 100,000 is a mass movement akin to an armed force.

    Liberalism has a tough time dealing with public order issues. It took 30 years from the 1960′s to the 1990′s to learn that controlling public order via broken windows policing was necessary to make cities livable (after many formerly great cities had been destroyed by a massive breakdown in public order). The broken windows theory has come under increasing fire as people now assume that the public order purchased by it is in the norm.

    This is just the beginning.

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  59. @Dave Pinsen
    In the past, there were German settlements in Turkey and the Caucuses. Maybe once all the Syrians move to Germany, Germans can settle in Syria?

    >German settlements in Turkey and the Caucuses
    Where, exactly? I only know of Stalin’s forced resettlements of ethnic Germans to Kazakhstan, Germany’s short-lived WWII military incursion to the Caucasus, Germany’s WWI military advisers to Turkey, and some German WWII refugees living in Turkey, most leaving after the war.

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    There were some German agricultural colonists in pre-1914 Transcaucasian Russia, but not many.
    , @Hokie
    During Byzantine times, a fair number of Germans were resettled in Anatolia as a reward for their service as mercenaries. Byzantine historians didn't usually distinguish between the various Germanic groups (Scandinavians vs English vs Germans). IIRC, they had their own quarter in Constantinople.

    The Goths may have made it as far as the Caucasus in ancient times, but I think Dave Pinsen is referring to the Volga Germans that moved south from the Volga into the Caucasus after Russia conquered the region from the Turks. They were numerous enough to have their own wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_Germans

    RE: Future German resettlement
    Namibia still has a surviving German community, and there are some very nice areas on the coast and in the center of the country. Transamur is seriously underpopulated too, and I think Putin would probably prefer us to Chinese.
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  60. @theo the kraut
    >German settlements in Turkey and the Caucuses
    Where, exactly? I only know of Stalin's forced resettlements of ethnic Germans to Kazakhstan, Germany's short-lived WWII military incursion to the Caucasus, Germany's WWI military advisers to Turkey, and some German WWII refugees living in Turkey, most leaving after the war.

    There were some German agricultural colonists in pre-1914 Transcaucasian Russia, but not many.

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  61. It’s a win-win in that anti-racists can finally demonstrate their bona fides and the refugees are not subject to having to live in racist postcodes.

    I think we should poll academia. Let them rank the following populations for their racism:

    Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Blacks, Whites, Yellows, Latinos.

    The refugees will all be sent to territories held by majorities composed of the three groups academics consider the least racist. I hear Israel is lovely this time of year.

    You mis-interpret the logic of progressive taxation. Leftists in theory want the rich taxed harder, and the wealth redistributed. The rich can be taxed at a higher rate, because they can “afford it”.

    The leftists have a point. 20% of a middle class person’s income is far more important to him than 20% of income is to a rich person. Flat taxes are what oligarchs dream up.

    The left views racism/privilege in the same light, therefore racists must bear the highest burden. The Lords of Cambridge, MA, are poor in racism, so they get the racial equivalent of the EITC.

    The trouble with that is that the left views the “burden’s” interests as the highest possible value. So, they can’t deliberately set them up to suffer. They also view racism as a the worst thing possible, certainly not an asset, but clearly love money. So, the whole analogy kind of implodes.

    ABN:

    Don’t we read from from time to time about ghost cities in China built by corrupt officials and real estate speculators?

    How about the Chinese fill some of those ill-conceived spec metropoles with Arabs? I mean, the CCP still believes in proletarians of the world uniting and all that…don’t they?

    Brilliant! And don’t forget, China is hideously Chinese, and un-diverse. So, this would be a double victory. Their refusal to allow mass immigration shows how racist they are, so they’re very much in need of the kind of racial healing that comes with diversity. They should get it, by force if need be.

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  62. @Wilkey
    Interesting to note the mileage the Left is trying to get for their open borders putsch from the image of a dead child.

    How much mileage would the Right get if we posted pictures of Muslim immigrants raping young English girls in Rotherham?

    Yes, it’s ridiculous. The family were refugees while they were in Turkey, which was responsible for their plight. Once they got in the boat, they were no longer refugees.

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  63. @Gato de la Biblioteca
    Sweet Jesus, I was looking at a Daily Mail article and the pictures were shocking. HUGE numbers of fighting age males coming over, way more than the old men, women and children. How many of these are plants? (ISIS threatened to do so a while back.) How many are going to go all Charlie Hebdo? What a colossal clusterfuck.

    I ran some numbers. If the refugee total reaching Germany doubles next year, they will have taken in 2.6 million refugees in three years time. (Doubling is a conservative estimate, as the number quadrupled from 2013 to 2014 estimates, and I see no reason to assume things are going to get better.) That's a population increase of about 3.25%. How in the Hell is Germany supposed to absorb that number? These people have little (if any) of anything. They're blowing it all. The crazy bastards (the EUs leadership class) are blowing it all up.

    the EU leaders are doing not much. The national leaders in Germany are those who beg for millions after millions.

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  64. @theo the kraut
    >German settlements in Turkey and the Caucuses
    Where, exactly? I only know of Stalin's forced resettlements of ethnic Germans to Kazakhstan, Germany's short-lived WWII military incursion to the Caucasus, Germany's WWI military advisers to Turkey, and some German WWII refugees living in Turkey, most leaving after the war.

    During Byzantine times, a fair number of Germans were resettled in Anatolia as a reward for their service as mercenaries. Byzantine historians didn’t usually distinguish between the various Germanic groups (Scandinavians vs English vs Germans). IIRC, they had their own quarter in Constantinople.

    The Goths may have made it as far as the Caucasus in ancient times, but I think Dave Pinsen is referring to the Volga Germans that moved south from the Volga into the Caucasus after Russia conquered the region from the Turks. They were numerous enough to have their own wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_Germans

    RE: Future German resettlement
    Namibia still has a surviving German community, and there are some very nice areas on the coast and in the center of the country. Transamur is seriously underpopulated too, and I think Putin would probably prefer us to Chinese.

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  65. @Truth
    What are you guys upset about? The Syrians are white(ish). Give them some good nutrition and education and in one Generation 10,000,000 more Germans.

    the problem is that many of the refugees are sunni muslims. If it were mostly christians people this would really be not such a big problem

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  66. Steve,
    the Golan Heights is unacceptable as a destination. No golf courses, at least as far as I can tell.

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  67. @Qasim
    I also agree.

    And this isn't the first post where Mr. Sailer has veered into bigoted comments toward Muslims.

    And before people start blasting me, let me say a few things. This is my favorite blog. I agree that immigration needs to be severely curtailed or even stopped, and that the influx of people from the third world threatens to irrevocably alter the West for the worse.

    But there is just a meanness in many of the comments that Mr. Sailer writes about Muslims that is absent when he talks about say, the bad behavior of poor blacks and Mexicans or the outsized influence of Jews.

    Granted, most of the other times the West has imported lots of Muslims, we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place.

    This reminds me of the Trump comment about rapist Mexicans. And like that comment, it unfairly vilifies a whole group, and ends up obscuring the main issue that the problem with too much immigration is that it will probably lead to Balkanization, and that this is the case even if every immigrant is a saint.

    And as far as the Rotterham thing, 99.9% of Muslims would be thrilled if those people were tried, convicted, and put in front of a firing squad. Why should Muslims as a whole keep getting browbeaten about this, especially when it was the white authorities who knew about what was going on and didn't step in because they were pathetically worried about seeming racist and weren't too concerned with the low-class whites that were predominantly the victims?

    Just because the whole "punching down" thing has become a hackneyed cliché doesn't mean it is completely devoid of any truth.

    I can’t speak for Steve (who I do not see picking on Muslims particularly) but generally I sense a global wave of irritation and fatigue with Islam.

    It might help if certain Muslims could stop slitting throats, raping sex slaves and burning people alive?

    In December the world’s premier Islamic university Al-Azhar in Cairo refused to excommunicate ISIS on the grounds that they had not broken with the tenets of Islam:

    “One press report noted a degree of similarity between IS thought and Al-Azhar University’s curriculum, which “allows for killing a Muslim who does not pray, one who leaves Islam, prisoners and infidels within Islam [those who do not have a clearly specified creed or sect]. [It also allows] gouging their eyes and chopping off their hands and feet, as well as banning the construction of churches and discriminating between Muslims and Ahl al-Kitab [Christians and Jews], and insulting them at times.””

    Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/02/azhar-egypt-radicals-islamic-state-apostates.html#ixzz3ki8A9xCr

    You say that 99.9% of British Muslims were horrified by Rotherham? I don’t believe you and I doubt you believe it yourself. The girls were infidel white sluts and fair game is the impression I get.

    The thin and modest denunciations of Rotherham from Muslim spokesmen have been very pro forma. The lack of a significant outcry or sense of horror in the Muslim community is the dog that did not bark. (Whining about how tough it is to be a Muslim is not, repeat not an expression of regret.)

    Yes, yes and don’t bother to tell me the crown prosecutor was a Muslim. I know.

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    It might help if certain Muslims could stop slitting throats, raping sex slaves and burning people alive?

    I am sure it would.

    In December the world’s premier Islamic university Al-Azhar in Cairo refused to excommunicate ISIS on the grounds that they had not broken with the tenets of Islam:

    I don't think it is fair to read too deeply into this, Muslims for the most part believe that anyone who claims they are a Muslim should be formally considered as one, as the matter ultimately is up to God. A Muslim can hate ISIS/believe they should all be executed and still be reticent to call them non-believers. Isn't it the same in Catholicism?

    One press report noted a degree of similarity between IS thought and Al-Azhar University’s curriculum

    I never said there isn't something very wrong with the version of Islam promoted by Sunni jurists or that ISIS ideology comes from nowhere.

    You say that 99.9% of British Muslims were horrified by Rotherham? I don’t believe you and I doubt you believe it yourself. The girls were infidel white sluts and fair game is the impression I get.

    I do believe this, and I know many British Muslims (although admittedly, all the ones I know are doctors or engineers). Muslims aren't supposed to fornicate, let alone pimp out and rape children. I can see tying beheading cartoonists to Islam but this is too much. If some Muslim robs a bank, does Islam get the blame for that too?

    The thin and modest denunciations of Rotherham from Muslim spokesmen have been very pro forma. The lack of a significant outcry or sense of horror in the Muslim community is the dog that did not bark.

    Again, I think you are misinterpreting their actions. First of all, the Quran teaches that no man is responsible for the sins of the other, and Muslims correctly think a bunch of sick rapists have nothing to do with them, so why would they feel the need to denounce more than anyone else? I am not saying this is correct, but I don't see other groups rushing to denounce their degenerates either. Well, I guess a lot of whites did with the Dylan Roof thing, but I don't know, doesn't that example prove how self-denunciations are just used against any asabiyya lacking group that offer them?
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  68. @Truth
    What are you guys upset about? The Syrians are white(ish). Give them some good nutrition and education and in one Generation 10,000,000 more Germans.

    Yeah but the Syrian refugees are mostly Sunni muslim. Surely they would fit much better within some of the 57 member states of the organisation of Islamic Cooperation?

    Yet Muslim countries show remarkably little interest in taking refugees unless it is absolutely unavoidable eg Jordan, Turkey. Lets face it OIC members don’t give a sh*t.

    Even this Muslim philanthropist wants to help but only if it means planting them in Europe:

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/contents/afp/2015/09/europe-migrants-egypt-island.html

    (Pace several commentators here: Syria erupted as part of the Arab Spring that started spontaneously in Tunis and the vile ISIS has been fuelled mostly by Arab powers. Turkey’s Islamist rulers also wanted to take down Assad as part of a scheme to expand its influence. The West does not own this particular problem.)

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    "The West does not own this particular problem." Oh, come on.

    WaPo, August 18, 2011 (with an especially tough looking Hillary, if you care to confirm):

    "President Obama on Thursday for the first time explicitly called on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down, a symbolically significant step intended to ratchet up pressure on the government five months after the start of the uprising in that country.

    Obama also issued an executive order immediately freezing all assets of the Syrian government subject to U.S. jurisdiction and prohibiting Americans from engaging in any transaction involving the government.

    The move, which follows weeks of pressure on the administration to formally call for Assad to leave office, was coordinated with the European Union and other Western allies. In a joint statement, British Prime Minister David Cameron, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel called for Assad to step aside, saying he should 'face the reality of the complete rejection of his regime by the Syrian people.'"
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  69. “If you are a young fellow in your prime, why should you have to settle for a refugee camp in neighboring Turkey when there are Swedish girls unmolested in Malmo and English girls unpimped in Rotherham?”

    Yes, some immigrant men rape. Yes, some Muslim men rape. But, then again, Mr. Sailer, as our esteemed resident race baiter, you have to keep up with the Al Sharpton’s of the world. In the case of the Rotherham rapes, law enforcement bears a certain degree of culpability, who seemed to believe white girls exploited by Muzzies were harlots who richly deserved their fate. Furthermore, white males still numerically commit more rapes (820 out of 1153—2011 Ministry Of Justice).

    “How much mileage would the Right get if we posted pictures of Muslim immigrants raping young English girls in Rotherham?”

    As much mileage of native born English men who rape women and underage children.

    “The West was evil when it colonized these people’s countries with a thin layer of administrators.”

    Would you say that hundreds of officials, along with thousands of soldiers, constitutes “thin”?

    “The West is evil when it objects to being colonized by them.”

    Corrected for accuracy—A good deal of citizens from the West object to apparent colonization by various immigrants, especially if government policies enable people from different countries to settle there.

    “I agree that immigration needs to be severely curtailed or even stopped…”

    
Absolutely.

    “and that the influx of people from the third world threatens to irrevocably alter the West for the worse.”

    [Sigh] the same tired arguments were made about the Irish, the Germans, the Irish, the Chinese, the Syrians, etc. when the came to America.

    “we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place.”

    Dear, 1,400 rapes. Horrible, yes. But you are overstating the case.

    “Key takeaway: White Western women are if anything MORE decadent than their male counterparts, in desiring violent non-Western men to replace their own.”

    Oh, Whiskey, this statement is the reason we love your hyperbole!

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  70. @BigGaySteve
    The days that a Pym Fortune could solve the problem are past. Your choices now are Golden Dawn or Vlad Tepes. There is plenty of open space in Saudi Arabia, but no 6yo infidel girls to rape for free(ISIS has a pricelist of sex slaves). Just as I don't want more taken out of my paycheck because Latrina squatted out more crackbabies, I have no desire to finance moslem beheaders in the US or Europe. I enjoyed my trips to Europe even though when I was in Paris, the blacks where revolting.

    The Boston Marathon Brothers had 3 gay next door neighbors beheaded a year before the marathon but no one was un-PC enough to ask "who beheads gays". The Boston Marathon moslems came over via the Refugee Resettlement program and leeched off welfare, & even used taxpayer grants to buy a car.http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/programs/ida/about
    Ali Mohammad Brown was a black moslem that serial killed gays in 3 states and was caught 2 weeks after the Ferguson Liquor Store robber was killed.

    The days that a Pym Fortune could solve the problem are past. Your choices now are Golden Dawn or Vlad Tepes.

    Unfortunately, you’re right. Is it a sign that we are on the right-hand side of the Peak of Everything? Exactly two years ago, the French government was eager to bomb Syria. It abandoned its deadly project at the last moment, and only because, a few hours before the Tomahawk missiles were scheduled to start flying towards Damascus, Obama changed his mind and annulled the operation. Today, it’s hard to imagine France attacking Syria. And the enemy now is ISIS, rather than Assad. Even for those who are on Qatar’s and Saudi Arabia’s payroll, that’s to say, the government and the mainstream media.

    Jean-Marie Le Pen, who would have ousted immigrants, has been replaced by his daughter, who wants to integrate immigrants, not expel them (and in order to integrate people, you need to be sure about your own identity and culture, she at least advocates that). In the suburban town where I live, whites are a minority. You can’t expel others when you are a minority.

    The masks are falling. Merkel and Hollande have met today, to talk about a compulsory EU mechanism to dispatch migrants all over the EU. The countries that disagree will have their subsidies cut. There are 27 countries in the EU, but it seems that only two of them, France and Germany, can make life and death decisions for the 27. The EU parliament wasn’t mentioned: no time to lose with parliamentary debates, the rulers have spoken. Cameron wasn’t invited to the Merkel / Hollande discussion. If he wondered what Hollande and Merkel think of him, now he knows. Hollande’s personality being what it is, the EU has one ruler nowadays: Angela Merkel.

    I have been saying for months to friends and relatives that 2015 would be “peak freedom”, because after 2015 freedom in Europe would go downhill. I was right.

    Nobody seems to bother about Ukraine and Russia anymore. I expected things to become a little rough in Europe around 2020, but I was wrong. The rough times are beginning now. It is already a bit tricky to take the Eurostar to travel from Paris to London, you might be delayed for 16 hours (!), and international train service from and to Hungary is suspended, at least for the moment.

    Hungary has, roughly, the same population as Ohio. Can Americans imagine Ohio being flooded with illegal immigrants, mostly young and male, disrupting train service between Ohio and the neighboring states?

    Those hundreds of thousands of migrants that arrive in the EU are mostly young men. Once they are settled, they’ll make their families come, which will quintuple their numbers. And they will actively seek women. We can expect an epidemic of rapes, looting, riots, etc. A situation only Vlad Tepes could handle, as you say.

    If we’re lucky enough to have one guy like Vlad Tepes in every EU country. So far, we don’t have any.

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  71. Steve: “This place looks nice (except for the tank)”

    Except for the tank? Has a tank ever done anything to you, Steve? #TANKLIVESMATTER

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  72. @BigGaySteve
    The days that a Pym Fortune could solve the problem are past. Your choices now are Golden Dawn or Vlad Tepes. There is plenty of open space in Saudi Arabia, but no 6yo infidel girls to rape for free(ISIS has a pricelist of sex slaves). Just as I don't want more taken out of my paycheck because Latrina squatted out more crackbabies, I have no desire to finance moslem beheaders in the US or Europe. I enjoyed my trips to Europe even though when I was in Paris, the blacks where revolting.

    The Boston Marathon Brothers had 3 gay next door neighbors beheaded a year before the marathon but no one was un-PC enough to ask "who beheads gays". The Boston Marathon moslems came over via the Refugee Resettlement program and leeched off welfare, & even used taxpayer grants to buy a car.http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/programs/ida/about
    Ali Mohammad Brown was a black moslem that serial killed gays in 3 states and was caught 2 weeks after the Ferguson Liquor Store robber was killed.

    “There is plenty of open space in Saudi Arabia…”

    Yeah, this Republic of Leftover Sand to which you refer, is not habitable. The reason no one lives in much of Saudi Arabia, is basically because you can’t. Have you ever wondered why New York City is located adjacent to Long Island Sound, rather than the Grand Tetons of Wyoming? This is why.

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  73. @bossel

    The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents. If you are a young fellow in your prime, why should you have to settle for a refugee camp in neighboring Turkey when there are Swedish girls unmolested in Malmo and English girls unpimped in Rotherham?
     
    You sound like the average racist (or ethnicist, maybe nationalist) idiot here.


    "you and your countrymen"
    How many of the refugees were involved in the uprising & later civil war?

    "unassailable moral claim"
    The moral claims are actually made by European or US American SJWs, not many Syrians among them, I suppose. The refugees themselves are obviously looking for the "best" place to live, quite understandably. The problem is, that through social media nowadays they easily hear stories about how nice it is in - say - Germany & they see that Germany already welcomed a lot of others. Then they obviously ask "Why them? Why not me?" Clear rules & strict enforcement of these rules probably would have prevented the current crisis (or at least minimized it). Saying that all Syrian refugees are welcome only makes it worse.

    "Swedish girls unmolested in Malmo and English girls unpimped"
    Implying that the "others" are (all) criminals in the making is pretty much a tell-tale sign of racist arseholes. Pretty disappointing that you stoop so low.


    most of the other times the West has imported lots of Muslims, we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place
     
    S.a.
    Coming back to the example of Germany: Most of the Turks who came there in the 60's or 70's have done quite well there. 2nd generation Turks integrated to quite some degree. Mostly with the 3rd generation there is a problem with growing Muslim extremism, but even among the 3rd generation extremists are a small minority.

    Most of the massacres in the US seem to be committed by whites. Does that mean that "the whites" in the US are murderers & the rest of the world should prohibit white US Americans from entering?

    I agree, whites are maniacs who love to massacre others. It’s best that nonwhites stay the hell away from those lunatics and leave them to suffer in their all white hellhole countries. Nonwhite countries are safe, prosperous, and massacre-free.

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  74. @Bill B.
    Yeah but the Syrian refugees are mostly Sunni muslim. Surely they would fit much better within some of the 57 member states of the organisation of Islamic Cooperation?

    Yet Muslim countries show remarkably little interest in taking refugees unless it is absolutely unavoidable eg Jordan, Turkey. Lets face it OIC members don't give a sh*t.

    Even this Muslim philanthropist wants to help but only if it means planting them in Europe:

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/contents/afp/2015/09/europe-migrants-egypt-island.html

    (Pace several commentators here: Syria erupted as part of the Arab Spring that started spontaneously in Tunis and the vile ISIS has been fuelled mostly by Arab powers. Turkey's Islamist rulers also wanted to take down Assad as part of a scheme to expand its influence. The West does not own this particular problem.)

    “The West does not own this particular problem.” Oh, come on.

    WaPo, August 18, 2011 (with an especially tough looking Hillary, if you care to confirm):

    “President Obama on Thursday for the first time explicitly called on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down, a symbolically significant step intended to ratchet up pressure on the government five months after the start of the uprising in that country.

    Obama also issued an executive order immediately freezing all assets of the Syrian government subject to U.S. jurisdiction and prohibiting Americans from engaging in any transaction involving the government.

    The move, which follows weeks of pressure on the administration to formally call for Assad to leave office, was coordinated with the European Union and other Western allies. In a joint statement, British Prime Minister David Cameron, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel called for Assad to step aside, saying he should ‘face the reality of the complete rejection of his regime by the Syrian people.’”

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    Well yes. America et al grossly miscalculated the worth of Assad and the moderation of the opposition. There was a whiff of neocon level delusion about the prospects for regime change.

    But your apposite story said: "...ratchet up pressure on the government five months AFTER the start of the uprising in that country."

    The West never actually did that much, more by luck than judgement. It was also became clear very quickly that the rebels were an extremely dubious lot and were not given much material help, although we have had the fiasco of trying to train a moderate army.

    The Saudis and the Qataris on the other hand were all in. Turkey's Erdogan also shifted sharply against Assad.

    One might better argue that ISIS itself was born from the original sin of Iraq. The great problem now is the fact that arab armies typically don't win battles, unless as a religious horde or lead by a terrifying tyrant. Soldiers who feel scant national solidarity will not die foe corrupt generals. There are no moderates or good guys who are going to win in Syria. Which means that while all those healthy young men enjoy European hospitality a white boy lead army may end up tackling ISIS.
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  75. Why is it the responsibility of any European country to give these “refugees”(most are economic refugees) a better life. Europe has nothing to gain by letting or bringing these people in. What do the “refugees” have to offer? They bring nothing to the table.

    Why don’t muslim “asylum seekers” go to Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates , Oman, Saudi Arabia or any of the other rich muslim countries? These are Islamic countries therefore more suitable for them.

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  76. @Qasim
    I also agree.

    And this isn't the first post where Mr. Sailer has veered into bigoted comments toward Muslims.

    And before people start blasting me, let me say a few things. This is my favorite blog. I agree that immigration needs to be severely curtailed or even stopped, and that the influx of people from the third world threatens to irrevocably alter the West for the worse.

    But there is just a meanness in many of the comments that Mr. Sailer writes about Muslims that is absent when he talks about say, the bad behavior of poor blacks and Mexicans or the outsized influence of Jews.

    Granted, most of the other times the West has imported lots of Muslims, we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place.

    This reminds me of the Trump comment about rapist Mexicans. And like that comment, it unfairly vilifies a whole group, and ends up obscuring the main issue that the problem with too much immigration is that it will probably lead to Balkanization, and that this is the case even if every immigrant is a saint.

    And as far as the Rotterham thing, 99.9% of Muslims would be thrilled if those people were tried, convicted, and put in front of a firing squad. Why should Muslims as a whole keep getting browbeaten about this, especially when it was the white authorities who knew about what was going on and didn't step in because they were pathetically worried about seeming racist and weren't too concerned with the low-class whites that were predominantly the victims?

    Just because the whole "punching down" thing has become a hackneyed cliché doesn't mean it is completely devoid of any truth.

    Islam is an ideology. It is a supremacist ideology which posits that it is not only legitimate to kill a man for no longer believing in that ideology, it is mandatory (under all 4 Sunni schools and under all Shia schools). It is an ideology which posits that one cannot criticize a dead man (Muhammad) without being put to death (in practice by a rampaging mob). It is an ideology which posits that non-Muslims must pay a special tax, “in humiliation and submission”, or be killed when these non-Muslims live in a muslim majority land. These are the words of the Muslim god. And I could go on. These are not ancient rules which the authorities of the religion have long discarded as ancient legends, they are as current as today’s paper. Muslims are people who believe in the Islamic ideology. Otherwise they are not muslims. Therefore, I think we have the right to severely criticize Muslims in the West, not for being born Muslim, not for having parents who are Muslim, not for having Arabic names, not for having brown skin (if they have it) but for what they believe, for what they are thinking. And Islam, besides for being a very specific ideology, is a culture and civilization as well. Muslims themselves refer to Islam this way. As in “Islam gave us our Wetern science” or some other such nonsense. And in that Islam, Islam as a culture existing in the world today, honor killing is prevalent, free speech is virtually non-existent, representative democracy is virtually non-existent, Christian and Jew hatred (not Zionist hatred) is widespread. And I could go on. It is not my business to tell Muslims how to live in their countries and I do not want to. And if they want to live that way, fine. But unsurprisingly when people come from that culture to the West, many of them bring these strange and repulsive attitudes and beliefs with them and this is reflected in their behavior. And I dont want to live that way at all. Islam, in both senses of the word, is a danger to the West and a danger to Western human beings.

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  77. @bossel

    The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents. If you are a young fellow in your prime, why should you have to settle for a refugee camp in neighboring Turkey when there are Swedish girls unmolested in Malmo and English girls unpimped in Rotherham?
     
    You sound like the average racist (or ethnicist, maybe nationalist) idiot here.


    "you and your countrymen"
    How many of the refugees were involved in the uprising & later civil war?

    "unassailable moral claim"
    The moral claims are actually made by European or US American SJWs, not many Syrians among them, I suppose. The refugees themselves are obviously looking for the "best" place to live, quite understandably. The problem is, that through social media nowadays they easily hear stories about how nice it is in - say - Germany & they see that Germany already welcomed a lot of others. Then they obviously ask "Why them? Why not me?" Clear rules & strict enforcement of these rules probably would have prevented the current crisis (or at least minimized it). Saying that all Syrian refugees are welcome only makes it worse.

    "Swedish girls unmolested in Malmo and English girls unpimped"
    Implying that the "others" are (all) criminals in the making is pretty much a tell-tale sign of racist arseholes. Pretty disappointing that you stoop so low.


    most of the other times the West has imported lots of Muslims, we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place
     
    S.a.
    Coming back to the example of Germany: Most of the Turks who came there in the 60's or 70's have done quite well there. 2nd generation Turks integrated to quite some degree. Mostly with the 3rd generation there is a problem with growing Muslim extremism, but even among the 3rd generation extremists are a small minority.

    Most of the massacres in the US seem to be committed by whites. Does that mean that "the whites" in the US are murderers & the rest of the world should prohibit white US Americans from entering?

    “Swedish girls unmolested in Malmo and English girls unpimped”
    Implying that the “others” are (all) criminals in the making is pretty much a tell-tale sign of racist arseholes. Pretty disappointing that you stoop so low.

    Hmm. I remember something someone once said about American blacks which probably also applies here: that nine out of ten were decent people, who will do you no harm unless you deserve it, but that #10 will be insane, and will try to kill you if he gets the chance. And if you live around large concentrations of blacks you’re going to run into him sooner or later.

    I don’t know how true this is, but it sounds plausible given the racial crime stats.

    How should a Good person — someone who believes in democracy, judging individuals on the ‘content of their character’, and so on — reconcile these beliefs with the personal safety of themselves and their families?

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  78. @Qasim
    I also agree.

    And this isn't the first post where Mr. Sailer has veered into bigoted comments toward Muslims.

    And before people start blasting me, let me say a few things. This is my favorite blog. I agree that immigration needs to be severely curtailed or even stopped, and that the influx of people from the third world threatens to irrevocably alter the West for the worse.

    But there is just a meanness in many of the comments that Mr. Sailer writes about Muslims that is absent when he talks about say, the bad behavior of poor blacks and Mexicans or the outsized influence of Jews.

    Granted, most of the other times the West has imported lots of Muslims, we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place.

    This reminds me of the Trump comment about rapist Mexicans. And like that comment, it unfairly vilifies a whole group, and ends up obscuring the main issue that the problem with too much immigration is that it will probably lead to Balkanization, and that this is the case even if every immigrant is a saint.

    And as far as the Rotterham thing, 99.9% of Muslims would be thrilled if those people were tried, convicted, and put in front of a firing squad. Why should Muslims as a whole keep getting browbeaten about this, especially when it was the white authorities who knew about what was going on and didn't step in because they were pathetically worried about seeming racist and weren't too concerned with the low-class whites that were predominantly the victims?

    Just because the whole "punching down" thing has become a hackneyed cliché doesn't mean it is completely devoid of any truth.

    But there is just a meanness in many of the comments that Mr. Sailer writes about Muslims

    I love this site, I love the commenters, and I am glad people like you are here to warn of negativity. I don’t aspire to be mean to anyone, including muslims and Africans, but mass muslim and African immigration into western Europe seems horrible. I hope you keep commenting here.

    I believe that Sailer is very pro-stereotype, because they are real patterns and trends. We should still try to give individuals a chance, do good in the world, etc.

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    I love this site, I love the commenters, and I am glad people like you are here to warn of negativity. I don’t aspire to be mean to anyone, including muslims and Africans, but mass muslim and African immigration into western Europe seems horrible. I hope you keep commenting here.

    I believe that Sailer is very pro-stereotype, because they are real patterns and trends. We should still try to give individuals a chance, do good in the world, etc.
     
    What negativity you see here I think is just exasperation venting itself. There are very clear problems going on, but because of PC oversensitivity they cannot be openly expressed in mainstream media and by mainstream politicians, hence when they do find expression in crime-thinking sites like this one they are liable to tilt here into insensitivity. It's the boiling pot bubbling over because the cook isn't minding the stove.

    For my part, I live in a relaxed and quietly functional area of inland Northern California, where most of the people I see everyday are white, and the largest immigrant community is Russian/Ukrainian. The only Muslims I know are people like Qasim; well-educated, well-mannered, good natured; most of the women wear jeans rather than burqas. There are a lot of Iranian engineers, academics and doctors who fled here after the Ayatollah took over in 1979. Frankly, those who are religious come off like squishes, just like the Christians around here. The local mosque around here is big into ecumenism and things like that; when one local church lost the lease to their building just before Easter a few years ago, with great fanfare the imam offered the use of his own mosque for Easter services. That kind of inter-religious gladhanding is in line with social norms here.

    If Islam came off as a little, non-pushy, good-natured minority that didn't place burdens on others then feelings toward it would be much better, but unfortunately others in the Western world are seeing a radically different side of it. Some of it is due to leftist Western ideology encouraging grievance-mongering among minorities, others the insane folly of Western leaders allowing the immigration of people who cannot support themselves and therefore burden the social safety net, and accepting immigration in such numbers that they can form Middle Eastern ghetto exclaves that remove any social incentive to conform to Western norms and values. But the root problem is that these immigrants are not, by and large, secular Iranians or Kemalists who might be absorbable into Westernism. Any space they occupy becomes functionally Middle Eastern and non-Western, and no Westerner who is not an ethnomasochist can truly approve of it, let alone enjoy it.

    It's less about disliking others than loving yourself and your own family, kind, people, traditions.
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  79. @Bill B.
    I can't speak for Steve (who I do not see picking on Muslims particularly) but generally I sense a global wave of irritation and fatigue with Islam.

    It might help if certain Muslims could stop slitting throats, raping sex slaves and burning people alive?

    In December the world's premier Islamic university Al-Azhar in Cairo refused to excommunicate ISIS on the grounds that they had not broken with the tenets of Islam:

    "One press report noted a degree of similarity between IS thought and Al-Azhar University's curriculum, which “allows for killing a Muslim who does not pray, one who leaves Islam, prisoners and infidels within Islam [those who do not have a clearly specified creed or sect]. [It also allows] gouging their eyes and chopping off their hands and feet, as well as banning the construction of churches and discriminating between Muslims and Ahl al-Kitab [Christians and Jews], and insulting them at times.”"

    Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/02/azhar-egypt-radicals-islamic-state-apostates.html#ixzz3ki8A9xCr

    You say that 99.9% of British Muslims were horrified by Rotherham? I don't believe you and I doubt you believe it yourself. The girls were infidel white sluts and fair game is the impression I get.

    The thin and modest denunciations of Rotherham from Muslim spokesmen have been very pro forma. The lack of a significant outcry or sense of horror in the Muslim community is the dog that did not bark. (Whining about how tough it is to be a Muslim is not, repeat not an expression of regret.)

    Yes, yes and don't bother to tell me the crown prosecutor was a Muslim. I know.

    It might help if certain Muslims could stop slitting throats, raping sex slaves and burning people alive?

    I am sure it would.

    In December the world’s premier Islamic university Al-Azhar in Cairo refused to excommunicate ISIS on the grounds that they had not broken with the tenets of Islam:

    I don’t think it is fair to read too deeply into this, Muslims for the most part believe that anyone who claims they are a Muslim should be formally considered as one, as the matter ultimately is up to God. A Muslim can hate ISIS/believe they should all be executed and still be reticent to call them non-believers. Isn’t it the same in Catholicism?

    One press report noted a degree of similarity between IS thought and Al-Azhar University’s curriculum

    I never said there isn’t something very wrong with the version of Islam promoted by Sunni jurists or that ISIS ideology comes from nowhere.

    You say that 99.9% of British Muslims were horrified by Rotherham? I don’t believe you and I doubt you believe it yourself. The girls were infidel white sluts and fair game is the impression I get.

    I do believe this, and I know many British Muslims (although admittedly, all the ones I know are doctors or engineers). Muslims aren’t supposed to fornicate, let alone pimp out and rape children. I can see tying beheading cartoonists to Islam but this is too much. If some Muslim robs a bank, does Islam get the blame for that too?

    The thin and modest denunciations of Rotherham from Muslim spokesmen have been very pro forma. The lack of a significant outcry or sense of horror in the Muslim community is the dog that did not bark.

    Again, I think you are misinterpreting their actions. First of all, the Quran teaches that no man is responsible for the sins of the other, and Muslims correctly think a bunch of sick rapists have nothing to do with them, so why would they feel the need to denounce more than anyone else? I am not saying this is correct, but I don’t see other groups rushing to denounce their degenerates either. Well, I guess a lot of whites did with the Dylan Roof thing, but I don’t know, doesn’t that example prove how self-denunciations are just used against any asabiyya lacking group that offer them?

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    The suggestion that the West does not denounce its degenerates is ludicrous and lame to the point where I suspect you to be a Muslim hasbara writer.

    Rotherham had everything to do with Islamic views of women and infidels and Pakistani Muslim clan solidarity and contempt for the weak. Girls were passed around within communities. Rotherham is just the tip the the iceberg and the total victims could number hundreds of thousands , if not a million or more, according to at least one concerned politician.

    You are attempting the usual Muslim Teflon defence of patrolling the borders of of Islam against all criticism. This is why Islam is, at best, a dead weight in the West.

    Asabiyyah? Most Westerners think of Ibn Khaldun and it being a good thing but Mohamed saw it as patriotism and an affinity for a particular culture and mores outside of Sharia law. In other words a very bad thing.

    When something can't go on forever it will eventually stop. What remains of tolerance for Islamic hypocrisy will also end.

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  80. @guest
    "The West does not own this particular problem." Oh, come on.

    WaPo, August 18, 2011 (with an especially tough looking Hillary, if you care to confirm):

    "President Obama on Thursday for the first time explicitly called on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down, a symbolically significant step intended to ratchet up pressure on the government five months after the start of the uprising in that country.

    Obama also issued an executive order immediately freezing all assets of the Syrian government subject to U.S. jurisdiction and prohibiting Americans from engaging in any transaction involving the government.

    The move, which follows weeks of pressure on the administration to formally call for Assad to leave office, was coordinated with the European Union and other Western allies. In a joint statement, British Prime Minister David Cameron, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel called for Assad to step aside, saying he should 'face the reality of the complete rejection of his regime by the Syrian people.'"

    Well yes. America et al grossly miscalculated the worth of Assad and the moderation of the opposition. There was a whiff of neocon level delusion about the prospects for regime change.

    But your apposite story said: “…ratchet up pressure on the government five months AFTER the start of the uprising in that country.”

    The West never actually did that much, more by luck than judgement. It was also became clear very quickly that the rebels were an extremely dubious lot and were not given much material help, although we have had the fiasco of trying to train a moderate army.

    The Saudis and the Qataris on the other hand were all in. Turkey’s Erdogan also shifted sharply against Assad.

    One might better argue that ISIS itself was born from the original sin of Iraq. The great problem now is the fact that arab armies typically don’t win battles, unless as a religious horde or lead by a terrifying tyrant. Soldiers who feel scant national solidarity will not die foe corrupt generals. There are no moderates or good guys who are going to win in Syria. Which means that while all those healthy young men enjoy European hospitality a white boy lead army may end up tackling ISIS.

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    " ... although we have had the fiasco of trying to ... "

    Are you "serving" in the ME? Or is your little "we" that of yet another American with an emotional need to rationalize the conduct of the authorities under which he lives?

    I found that "apposite story" in less than 60 seconds. It refuted your assertion of "Western" innocence in the destruction of Syria, but you proof the text to make the preposterous suggestion that Uncle Sam only showed up in 2011 because he could hear the kids fighting from across the ocean. "We" have, in fact, been trying to pick rulers for the people for whom you have so little empathy for a long, long time. And you know it.

    Your several comments here reveal an apparently intelligent, thoughtful (relative to some others in this chain), and fair person. Please consider whether you should do some more questioning of authority, including Mr. Sailer.
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  81. @TSTCLRFRTTD

    AS surprising as Donald J. Trump’s political ascendance may be, it is not unprecedented. He is the latest in a long line of demagogues that have appeared throughout American history to point accusing fingers at blacks, foreigners, Masons, Jews, socialists, central bankers and others.
     
    My memory fails me, has there ever been an American demagogue to point an accusing finger at racists?

    “foreigners, Masons, Jews, socialists”

    Who can forget that towering figure of American demagoguery, Charles Maurras?

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  82. Have to say, Golan Heights looks like that? I pictured a … well, nothing so pleasant.

    I’d want to keep it for myself too. Then again, I’d want to keep Hungary to myself too. Guess that makes me a far right extremist like that nasty guy in Budapest who’s killing kids in Greece, or whatever.

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    The Golan Heights looks that way because the Israelis have held it since 1967. Were the Arabs to hold it, it would be dry and parched, the land completely denuded by Bedouin goats. Syria is in a drought and this is one of the causes of their civil war. The conservative Sunni farmers were unable to farm and came into the cities from the country side where they saw the wealthy Alawi and Christian secular (unveiled) population and anger began to build. Israel is also in a drought and they have far less water resources than Syria but magically Israel has no water shortage at all. Because the Jews planned ahead and have probably the most sophisticated water managment system in the world, the most intesive recycling in the world (they recycle almost all of their sewage water for agriculture) and the most efficient desalination plants in the world. And so on. And this is what the Arabs see. A lush green land held by the Jews and their own brown sandy lands denuded, parched, dry and naturally, they say the Jews stole the best for themselves. The Syrians will turn Austria into a desert if you let them.
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  83. @Gato de la Biblioteca
    Sweet Jesus, I was looking at a Daily Mail article and the pictures were shocking. HUGE numbers of fighting age males coming over, way more than the old men, women and children. How many of these are plants? (ISIS threatened to do so a while back.) How many are going to go all Charlie Hebdo? What a colossal clusterfuck.

    I ran some numbers. If the refugee total reaching Germany doubles next year, they will have taken in 2.6 million refugees in three years time. (Doubling is a conservative estimate, as the number quadrupled from 2013 to 2014 estimates, and I see no reason to assume things are going to get better.) That's a population increase of about 3.25%. How in the Hell is Germany supposed to absorb that number? These people have little (if any) of anything. They're blowing it all. The crazy bastards (the EUs leadership class) are blowing it all up.

    Any country that lets them in will soon find out that these are not poor “refugees” but an invading army.

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  84. Muslims running from islam? If that is not the proverbial Trojan horse there is none.

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  85. @Massimo Heitor

    But there is just a meanness in many of the comments that Mr. Sailer writes about Muslims
     
    I love this site, I love the commenters, and I am glad people like you are here to warn of negativity. I don't aspire to be mean to anyone, including muslims and Africans, but mass muslim and African immigration into western Europe seems horrible. I hope you keep commenting here.

    I believe that Sailer is very pro-stereotype, because they are real patterns and trends. We should still try to give individuals a chance, do good in the world, etc.

    I love this site, I love the commenters, and I am glad people like you are here to warn of negativity. I don’t aspire to be mean to anyone, including muslims and Africans, but mass muslim and African immigration into western Europe seems horrible. I hope you keep commenting here.

    I believe that Sailer is very pro-stereotype, because they are real patterns and trends. We should still try to give individuals a chance, do good in the world, etc.

    What negativity you see here I think is just exasperation venting itself. There are very clear problems going on, but because of PC oversensitivity they cannot be openly expressed in mainstream media and by mainstream politicians, hence when they do find expression in crime-thinking sites like this one they are liable to tilt here into insensitivity. It’s the boiling pot bubbling over because the cook isn’t minding the stove.

    For my part, I live in a relaxed and quietly functional area of inland Northern California, where most of the people I see everyday are white, and the largest immigrant community is Russian/Ukrainian. The only Muslims I know are people like Qasim; well-educated, well-mannered, good natured; most of the women wear jeans rather than burqas. There are a lot of Iranian engineers, academics and doctors who fled here after the Ayatollah took over in 1979. Frankly, those who are religious come off like squishes, just like the Christians around here. The local mosque around here is big into ecumenism and things like that; when one local church lost the lease to their building just before Easter a few years ago, with great fanfare the imam offered the use of his own mosque for Easter services. That kind of inter-religious gladhanding is in line with social norms here.

    If Islam came off as a little, non-pushy, good-natured minority that didn’t place burdens on others then feelings toward it would be much better, but unfortunately others in the Western world are seeing a radically different side of it. Some of it is due to leftist Western ideology encouraging grievance-mongering among minorities, others the insane folly of Western leaders allowing the immigration of people who cannot support themselves and therefore burden the social safety net, and accepting immigration in such numbers that they can form Middle Eastern ghetto exclaves that remove any social incentive to conform to Western norms and values. But the root problem is that these immigrants are not, by and large, secular Iranians or Kemalists who might be absorbable into Westernism. Any space they occupy becomes functionally Middle Eastern and non-Western, and no Westerner who is not an ethnomasochist can truly approve of it, let alone enjoy it.

    It’s less about disliking others than loving yourself and your own family, kind, people, traditions.

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  86. Yes, let’s do try to put on a happy face about everything. It’ll be like polishing the brass on the Titanic.

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  87. @Qasim
    It might help if certain Muslims could stop slitting throats, raping sex slaves and burning people alive?

    I am sure it would.

    In December the world’s premier Islamic university Al-Azhar in Cairo refused to excommunicate ISIS on the grounds that they had not broken with the tenets of Islam:

    I don't think it is fair to read too deeply into this, Muslims for the most part believe that anyone who claims they are a Muslim should be formally considered as one, as the matter ultimately is up to God. A Muslim can hate ISIS/believe they should all be executed and still be reticent to call them non-believers. Isn't it the same in Catholicism?

    One press report noted a degree of similarity between IS thought and Al-Azhar University’s curriculum

    I never said there isn't something very wrong with the version of Islam promoted by Sunni jurists or that ISIS ideology comes from nowhere.

    You say that 99.9% of British Muslims were horrified by Rotherham? I don’t believe you and I doubt you believe it yourself. The girls were infidel white sluts and fair game is the impression I get.

    I do believe this, and I know many British Muslims (although admittedly, all the ones I know are doctors or engineers). Muslims aren't supposed to fornicate, let alone pimp out and rape children. I can see tying beheading cartoonists to Islam but this is too much. If some Muslim robs a bank, does Islam get the blame for that too?

    The thin and modest denunciations of Rotherham from Muslim spokesmen have been very pro forma. The lack of a significant outcry or sense of horror in the Muslim community is the dog that did not bark.

    Again, I think you are misinterpreting their actions. First of all, the Quran teaches that no man is responsible for the sins of the other, and Muslims correctly think a bunch of sick rapists have nothing to do with them, so why would they feel the need to denounce more than anyone else? I am not saying this is correct, but I don't see other groups rushing to denounce their degenerates either. Well, I guess a lot of whites did with the Dylan Roof thing, but I don't know, doesn't that example prove how self-denunciations are just used against any asabiyya lacking group that offer them?

    The suggestion that the West does not denounce its degenerates is ludicrous and lame to the point where I suspect you to be a Muslim hasbara writer.

    Rotherham had everything to do with Islamic views of women and infidels and Pakistani Muslim clan solidarity and contempt for the weak. Girls were passed around within communities. Rotherham is just the tip the the iceberg and the total victims could number hundreds of thousands , if not a million or more, according to at least one concerned politician.

    You are attempting the usual Muslim Teflon defence of patrolling the borders of of Islam against all criticism. This is why Islam is, at best, a dead weight in the West.

    Asabiyyah? Most Westerners think of Ibn Khaldun and it being a good thing but Mohamed saw it as patriotism and an affinity for a particular culture and mores outside of Sharia law. In other words a very bad thing.

    When something can’t go on forever it will eventually stop. What remains of tolerance for Islamic hypocrisy will also end.

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    I am sorry, I mistook you for a reasonable person.

    The suggestion that the West does not denounce its degenerates is ludicrous and lame to the point where I suspect you to be a Muslim hasbara writer.

    Um, did you read what I wrote? I said most groups do not generally denounce their degenerates and this is true. Do blacks? Do Mexicans? Do Jews? And I specifically pointed out that although whites often do this, it just makes people attack them more.

    Rotherham had everything to do with Islamic views of women and infidels and Pakistani Muslim clan solidarity and contempt for the weak.

    Again fornication is absolutely forbidden in Islam, let alone rape. You are taking a cultural problem and flipping into a religious one.

    Rotherham is just the tip the the iceberg and the total victims could number hundreds of thousands , if not a million or more, according to at least one concerned politician.

    More than a million? Why not just make it a billion?

    You are attempting the usual Muslim Teflon defence of patrolling the borders of of Islam against all criticism.

    Did you even read my post? Let me repeat...

    I never said there isn't something very wrong with the version of Islam promoted by Sunni jurists or that ISIS ideology comes from nowhere.
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  88. @BigGaySteve
    The days that a Pym Fortune could solve the problem are past. Your choices now are Golden Dawn or Vlad Tepes. There is plenty of open space in Saudi Arabia, but no 6yo infidel girls to rape for free(ISIS has a pricelist of sex slaves). Just as I don't want more taken out of my paycheck because Latrina squatted out more crackbabies, I have no desire to finance moslem beheaders in the US or Europe. I enjoyed my trips to Europe even though when I was in Paris, the blacks where revolting.

    The Boston Marathon Brothers had 3 gay next door neighbors beheaded a year before the marathon but no one was un-PC enough to ask "who beheads gays". The Boston Marathon moslems came over via the Refugee Resettlement program and leeched off welfare, & even used taxpayer grants to buy a car.http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/programs/ida/about
    Ali Mohammad Brown was a black moslem that serial killed gays in 3 states and was caught 2 weeks after the Ferguson Liquor Store robber was killed.

    Those three were gay? I thought they were killed for being Jewish.

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  89. @Bill B.
    Well yes. America et al grossly miscalculated the worth of Assad and the moderation of the opposition. There was a whiff of neocon level delusion about the prospects for regime change.

    But your apposite story said: "...ratchet up pressure on the government five months AFTER the start of the uprising in that country."

    The West never actually did that much, more by luck than judgement. It was also became clear very quickly that the rebels were an extremely dubious lot and were not given much material help, although we have had the fiasco of trying to train a moderate army.

    The Saudis and the Qataris on the other hand were all in. Turkey's Erdogan also shifted sharply against Assad.

    One might better argue that ISIS itself was born from the original sin of Iraq. The great problem now is the fact that arab armies typically don't win battles, unless as a religious horde or lead by a terrifying tyrant. Soldiers who feel scant national solidarity will not die foe corrupt generals. There are no moderates or good guys who are going to win in Syria. Which means that while all those healthy young men enjoy European hospitality a white boy lead army may end up tackling ISIS.

    ” … although we have had the fiasco of trying to … ”

    Are you “serving” in the ME? Or is your little “we” that of yet another American with an emotional need to rationalize the conduct of the authorities under which he lives?

    I found that “apposite story” in less than 60 seconds. It refuted your assertion of “Western” innocence in the destruction of Syria, but you proof the text to make the preposterous suggestion that Uncle Sam only showed up in 2011 because he could hear the kids fighting from across the ocean. “We” have, in fact, been trying to pick rulers for the people for whom you have so little empathy for a long, long time. And you know it.

    Your several comments here reveal an apparently intelligent, thoughtful (relative to some others in this chain), and fair person. Please consider whether you should do some more questioning of authority, including Mr. Sailer.

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    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/09/fred-reed/why-they-hate-us-4/
    , @Bill B.
    Yes "We". And a dropped capital letter does not make a war monger!

    I cleave to the old fashioned idea that my government represents me and is somehow an extension of my social self. Its successes and failures reflect on me. And certainly if my countrymen are likely to fight and possibly die in a foreign land all the more reason for me to be concerned.

    I certainly do not consider America et al to be "innocent" in the Syria business. Indeed Kerry was so incompetent I began to suspect he suffered from an IQ deficiency.

    The problem that has bedeviled Western foreign policy for the last 60 years is the idea that nations are malleable entities that merely require a bit of fine tuning to ... become something like the United States. The neocons were the apotheosis of this idea.

    The notion that nations are tractable has proven extremely durable even when so many times tested to destruction. I have lived half my life in Asia and as each year rolls by I think I know less about the region. Barbara Tuchman's The March of Folly could be updated almost every couple of years with plump, choice examples of Western stupity and bumbling in world affairs.

    But realism also involves not only a cold appreciation of what is in your country's best interests but also an ability to step back to survey the landscape. The United States has made mistakes that cause me to want howl at the moon but as America increasingly steps back we will be reminded that other power players are quite capable of taking up the stupidity slack. And they will be less troubled by internal critics.

    Syria is on the front line of a 1400 year war between Shia and Sunni Islam. The siren call of Jihad wails across the land and to some of the victors go green-eyed Azeri women. Young men and women from Cardiff to Tunis are eager to abandon reason for implacable faith.

    In the cosmic acheme of things America's dabbling will not have changed much.

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  90. @guest
    " ... although we have had the fiasco of trying to ... "

    Are you "serving" in the ME? Or is your little "we" that of yet another American with an emotional need to rationalize the conduct of the authorities under which he lives?

    I found that "apposite story" in less than 60 seconds. It refuted your assertion of "Western" innocence in the destruction of Syria, but you proof the text to make the preposterous suggestion that Uncle Sam only showed up in 2011 because he could hear the kids fighting from across the ocean. "We" have, in fact, been trying to pick rulers for the people for whom you have so little empathy for a long, long time. And you know it.

    Your several comments here reveal an apparently intelligent, thoughtful (relative to some others in this chain), and fair person. Please consider whether you should do some more questioning of authority, including Mr. Sailer.

    P.S. – I don’t always agree with Fred Reed, either, but this expands on what troubled me about Mr. Sailer’s post.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/09/fred-reed/why-they-hate-us-4/

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    I don't find this kind of thing useful. I don't mind polemical writing but it has to be internally consistent.

    This is just plain wrong. America is not hated across the world. Would it have so many immigrant applications if it were? The hyperbole is daft.

    Certainly it is loathed by selected numbers in certain quarters, especially within earshot of the muezzin. Many who actually do hate America are angry over globalisation, sometimes even modernity itself. And sure it is Beelzebub for those who wrap themselves in conspiracies.

    The reality of the world is that 99% of people simply get on with their lives. Shortly after India achieved independence Delhi ran a survey to find out if ordinary rural folk understood that the British had finally departed after 200 years. The survey was abandoned when it became clear that most people had not known the British ever arrived.
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  91. @Bill B.
    The suggestion that the West does not denounce its degenerates is ludicrous and lame to the point where I suspect you to be a Muslim hasbara writer.

    Rotherham had everything to do with Islamic views of women and infidels and Pakistani Muslim clan solidarity and contempt for the weak. Girls were passed around within communities. Rotherham is just the tip the the iceberg and the total victims could number hundreds of thousands , if not a million or more, according to at least one concerned politician.

    You are attempting the usual Muslim Teflon defence of patrolling the borders of of Islam against all criticism. This is why Islam is, at best, a dead weight in the West.

    Asabiyyah? Most Westerners think of Ibn Khaldun and it being a good thing but Mohamed saw it as patriotism and an affinity for a particular culture and mores outside of Sharia law. In other words a very bad thing.

    When something can't go on forever it will eventually stop. What remains of tolerance for Islamic hypocrisy will also end.

    I am sorry, I mistook you for a reasonable person.

    The suggestion that the West does not denounce its degenerates is ludicrous and lame to the point where I suspect you to be a Muslim hasbara writer.

    Um, did you read what I wrote? I said most groups do not generally denounce their degenerates and this is true. Do blacks? Do Mexicans? Do Jews? And I specifically pointed out that although whites often do this, it just makes people attack them more.

    Rotherham had everything to do with Islamic views of women and infidels and Pakistani Muslim clan solidarity and contempt for the weak.

    Again fornication is absolutely forbidden in Islam, let alone rape. You are taking a cultural problem and flipping into a religious one.

    Rotherham is just the tip the the iceberg and the total victims could number hundreds of thousands , if not a million or more, according to at least one concerned politician.

    More than a million? Why not just make it a billion?

    You are attempting the usual Muslim Teflon defence of patrolling the borders of of Islam against all criticism.

    Did you even read my post? Let me repeat…

    I never said there isn’t something very wrong with the version of Islam promoted by Sunni jurists or that ISIS ideology comes from nowhere.

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    Um OK So you are saying that it is a weakness for white westerners to condemn their miscreants?

    (Are you saying that Western societies do not have enough protective Asabiyya in the Ibn Khaldun sense?)

    Certainly this is what tends to happen in Balkanised societies where the need to maintain maximum group punching power overrides the benefits of justice and truth.

    This is why Partly why I am against mass immigration - into any society. Culture and community are fragile things. It is also one reason why Western Civilisation is in danger, I would suggest..

    The one million figure for Rotherham was mooted on the basis that this was the number of potential victims of Pakistani Muslim men, including girls who had suffered little more than harassment. Rotherham is notorious because it is so well documented and large. But there are an alarming number of other documented cases.

    I am sorry but when you say that fornication is illegal in Islam etc. I am reminded of Karen Armstrong who has made a surprisingly good living regaling the world with the glories of bowdlerised and theoretical Islamic rules of conduct.

    I have met down the years some very impressive men and women who were Muslims. Deeply religious people can often be charismatic given that life's imponderables have been worked out for them.

    I particularly remember an octogenarian head master of an Islamic school who, under his robes, holstered a huge pistol, that appeared likely to topple him over when he demonstrated how he could draw it. He was on a death list run by local Islamist guerrillas.

    I wish Islam was otherwise, for the sake of people like that. Unfortunately I tend these days to the view that its flaws are a feature, not a bug.

    , @Bill B.
    Asabiyya mentioned perhaps in the video being discussed in Steve's latest post. Kuwaiti video.


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    I don’t speak Arabic, but this looks legit to me and, considering the Gulf states’ prior immigration policies, doesn’t seem outside the bounds of what a Kuwaiti official would say.

    (By the way, I think I heard him say asabiyya)

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  92. No-one talks about it?

    It is illegal to get import poultry and ornamental fish from the Golan to the EU. Plans are afoot to extend this ban to fruit and vegetables. That is to say the EU is so myopically obsessed with “ending the occupation” they demand that Israel gives land to ISIS, literally.

    Yes it’s true that there are many in the American press who apply a double standard in favour of Israel, though decreasingly so. In the European press, it’s the reverse. This is the plain truth and American paleocons cannot admit it because it blows up their whole stupid Group-Evolutionary-Strategy thing and they’d have to start approaching political problems like grown ups.

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  93. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    There’s a real cultural disconnect here. Muslims arrested for sex crimes in Europe are genuinely surprised and confused when it happens.

    A big part of it is the fact that most marriages in the Middle East are between cousins and uncles/nieces. (I think Mohamed particularly approved of such matches.) Among other things this is the reason for the intense tribalism of the Arabs (e.g. why Saudis don’t care about Syrians). It also explains the incomprehension and hostility towards Western dating practices. If you’re marrying someone from your own family, who you’ve known all your life, there’s no need for dating. In such a society, a woman who tries to attract the attention of strange men almost certainly is a prostitute.

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  94. @Anonymous
    The CCP historically supported leftist nationalists like the Assads and the Baathists. North Korea also has close relations with the Assad regime. The Syrian refugee crisis has been caused by US opposition to the Assad regime. If Assad, whom the CCP supports, had been left alone, there'd be no Syrian refugee crisis.

    It's the US who should accept these refugees, as it's responsible for creating them. And accepting them all would help raise US public opposition to these sorts of military interventions, which the US public still tends to support or at least ignore and tolerate.

    It’s the US who should accept these refugees, as it’s responsible for creating them. And accepting them all would help raise US public opposition to these sorts of military interventions, which the US public still tends to support or at least ignore and tolerate.

    I would agree that we should not have backed the rebels in Syria or sought to overthrow Assad. I think that 20th-century secular dictatorships like the Baathists may be the least of competing evils, and in any case the internal affairs of foreign states are not, in general, any of our business.

    Having said that, as far as moral responsibility goes, I think intent counts for something, and it has been the intent of Americans to provide Syria (as well as Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan) with governments that are neither retrograde dictatorships nor jihadist theocracies. (Some of our leaders may have ulterior motives, but I’m talking about the general public.) Democracy promotion may be BS, but it’s BS for which Americans have sacrificed blood and treasure (including in Syria; airstrikes aren’t cheap). So it’s not clear how much moral responsibility the US and other Western countries have for a situation (misery in Syria) that their (admittedly ham-fisted and counter-productive) intervention is aimed at mitigating. Moral responsibility is not quite the same thing as material causality.

    One other thing worth pointing out is that Western governments can’t be trusted to admit refugees exclusively as refugees. The various political and economic interests pushing mass immigration will ensure that anyone who steps into the country as a refugee ends up staying forever. I’d be more willing to take in refugees if I could have some assurance that their sojourn would be temporary and that they would go home when the opportunity arose. Ironically, the leftists’ desire to sign up every economically motivated pseudo-refugee on the planet for citizenship and government benefits forever and ever may end up turning the public against accommodating actual war refugees.

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  95. @guest
    " ... although we have had the fiasco of trying to ... "

    Are you "serving" in the ME? Or is your little "we" that of yet another American with an emotional need to rationalize the conduct of the authorities under which he lives?

    I found that "apposite story" in less than 60 seconds. It refuted your assertion of "Western" innocence in the destruction of Syria, but you proof the text to make the preposterous suggestion that Uncle Sam only showed up in 2011 because he could hear the kids fighting from across the ocean. "We" have, in fact, been trying to pick rulers for the people for whom you have so little empathy for a long, long time. And you know it.

    Your several comments here reveal an apparently intelligent, thoughtful (relative to some others in this chain), and fair person. Please consider whether you should do some more questioning of authority, including Mr. Sailer.

    Yes “We”. And a dropped capital letter does not make a war monger!

    I cleave to the old fashioned idea that my government represents me and is somehow an extension of my social self. Its successes and failures reflect on me. And certainly if my countrymen are likely to fight and possibly die in a foreign land all the more reason for me to be concerned.

    I certainly do not consider America et al to be “innocent” in the Syria business. Indeed Kerry was so incompetent I began to suspect he suffered from an IQ deficiency.

    The problem that has bedeviled Western foreign policy for the last 60 years is the idea that nations are malleable entities that merely require a bit of fine tuning to … become something like the United States. The neocons were the apotheosis of this idea.

    The notion that nations are tractable has proven extremely durable even when so many times tested to destruction. I have lived half my life in Asia and as each year rolls by I think I know less about the region. Barbara Tuchman’s The March of Folly could be updated almost every couple of years with plump, choice examples of Western stupity and bumbling in world affairs.

    But realism also involves not only a cold appreciation of what is in your country’s best interests but also an ability to step back to survey the landscape. The United States has made mistakes that cause me to want howl at the moon but as America increasingly steps back we will be reminded that other power players are quite capable of taking up the stupidity slack. And they will be less troubled by internal critics.

    Syria is on the front line of a 1400 year war between Shia and Sunni Islam. The siren call of Jihad wails across the land and to some of the victors go green-eyed Azeri women. Young men and women from Cardiff to Tunis are eager to abandon reason for implacable faith.

    In the cosmic acheme of things America’s dabbling will not have changed much.

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    "The siren call of Jihad wails across the land and to some of the victors go green-eyed Azeri women."

    Kipling? Or Krauthammer?
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  96. @guest
    P.S. - I don't always agree with Fred Reed, either, but this expands on what troubled me about Mr. Sailer's post.


    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/09/fred-reed/why-they-hate-us-4/

    I don’t find this kind of thing useful. I don’t mind polemical writing but it has to be internally consistent.

    This is just plain wrong. America is not hated across the world. Would it have so many immigrant applications if it were? The hyperbole is daft.

    Certainly it is loathed by selected numbers in certain quarters, especially within earshot of the muezzin. Many who actually do hate America are angry over globalisation, sometimes even modernity itself. And sure it is Beelzebub for those who wrap themselves in conspiracies.

    The reality of the world is that 99% of people simply get on with their lives. Shortly after India achieved independence Delhi ran a survey to find out if ordinary rural folk understood that the British had finally departed after 200 years. The survey was abandoned when it became clear that most people had not known the British ever arrived.

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  97. @Qasim
    I am sorry, I mistook you for a reasonable person.

    The suggestion that the West does not denounce its degenerates is ludicrous and lame to the point where I suspect you to be a Muslim hasbara writer.

    Um, did you read what I wrote? I said most groups do not generally denounce their degenerates and this is true. Do blacks? Do Mexicans? Do Jews? And I specifically pointed out that although whites often do this, it just makes people attack them more.

    Rotherham had everything to do with Islamic views of women and infidels and Pakistani Muslim clan solidarity and contempt for the weak.

    Again fornication is absolutely forbidden in Islam, let alone rape. You are taking a cultural problem and flipping into a religious one.

    Rotherham is just the tip the the iceberg and the total victims could number hundreds of thousands , if not a million or more, according to at least one concerned politician.

    More than a million? Why not just make it a billion?

    You are attempting the usual Muslim Teflon defence of patrolling the borders of of Islam against all criticism.

    Did you even read my post? Let me repeat...

    I never said there isn't something very wrong with the version of Islam promoted by Sunni jurists or that ISIS ideology comes from nowhere.

    Um OK So you are saying that it is a weakness for white westerners to condemn their miscreants?

    (Are you saying that Western societies do not have enough protective Asabiyya in the Ibn Khaldun sense?)

    Certainly this is what tends to happen in Balkanised societies where the need to maintain maximum group punching power overrides the benefits of justice and truth.

    This is why Partly why I am against mass immigration – into any society. Culture and community are fragile things. It is also one reason why Western Civilisation is in danger, I would suggest..

    The one million figure for Rotherham was mooted on the basis that this was the number of potential victims of Pakistani Muslim men, including girls who had suffered little more than harassment. Rotherham is notorious because it is so well documented and large. But there are an alarming number of other documented cases.

    I am sorry but when you say that fornication is illegal in Islam etc. I am reminded of Karen Armstrong who has made a surprisingly good living regaling the world with the glories of bowdlerised and theoretical Islamic rules of conduct.

    I have met down the years some very impressive men and women who were Muslims. Deeply religious people can often be charismatic given that life’s imponderables have been worked out for them.

    I particularly remember an octogenarian head master of an Islamic school who, under his robes, holstered a huge pistol, that appeared likely to topple him over when he demonstrated how he could draw it. He was on a death list run by local Islamist guerrillas.

    I wish Islam was otherwise, for the sake of people like that. Unfortunately I tend these days to the view that its flaws are a feature, not a bug.

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  98. @asdf
    Have to say, Golan Heights looks like that? I pictured a ... well, nothing so pleasant.

    I'd want to keep it for myself too. Then again, I'd want to keep Hungary to myself too. Guess that makes me a far right extremist like that nasty guy in Budapest who's killing kids in Greece, or whatever.

    The Golan Heights looks that way because the Israelis have held it since 1967. Were the Arabs to hold it, it would be dry and parched, the land completely denuded by Bedouin goats. Syria is in a drought and this is one of the causes of their civil war. The conservative Sunni farmers were unable to farm and came into the cities from the country side where they saw the wealthy Alawi and Christian secular (unveiled) population and anger began to build. Israel is also in a drought and they have far less water resources than Syria but magically Israel has no water shortage at all. Because the Jews planned ahead and have probably the most sophisticated water managment system in the world, the most intesive recycling in the world (they recycle almost all of their sewage water for agriculture) and the most efficient desalination plants in the world. And so on. And this is what the Arabs see. A lush green land held by the Jews and their own brown sandy lands denuded, parched, dry and naturally, they say the Jews stole the best for themselves. The Syrians will turn Austria into a desert if you let them.

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    Mark Twain took a tour of Europe and the Holy Land with wealthy American Protestants after the Civil War. The ironic climax of "Innocents Abroad" is when they finally get to Palestine, whose beauties everybody has been reading about in the Bible their whole lives, and it's an eroded desert.
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  99. @Chrisnonymous
    Ski resort? I'm sold! Where can I sign up??

    >> Ski resort? I’m sold! Where can I sign up??

    Just go to the Ramat ha-Golan Regional Council building in Katzrin. Shmooze with the civil servants during lunch at the local felafel joints. Golan is able to absorb skilled labor.

    The Russian Christians are tolerated without much visible rancor. They pay taxes, report to the induction center when the letter arrives, pick up 50-100 Hebrew words, and don’t foment very much random violence. The RamatAviv stand-up comics make hay off the Russkies, but no one can show me an Israeli neighborhood council that blackballed a Russian FOR BEING Russian.

    You’re a saint compared to the Russians – someone will find you a middle-class job. Come with a nest-egg of a few thou $ to tide you over until that happens. No one will demand to inspect your circumcision.

    Bring winter clothes.

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    I just watched "Lord of War," a semi-true movie with Nicholas Cage as a Ukrainian immigrant arms dealer whose parents got to emigrate to Brighton Beach in Brooklyn as victims of Soviet anti-Semitism under the Jackson Act of 1973. Nick and his mother consider the family Catholics who put one over on the dumb Americans, but Nick's dad, after years of filling in INS forms claiming to be Jewish, now insists the family is Jewish and attends synagogue, which turns out to be helpful in Nick's nascent arms-dealing career.
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  100. @Karl
    >> Ski resort? I’m sold! Where can I sign up??


    Just go to the Ramat ha-Golan Regional Council building in Katzrin. Shmooze with the civil servants during lunch at the local felafel joints. Golan is able to absorb skilled labor.

    The Russian Christians are tolerated without much visible rancor. They pay taxes, report to the induction center when the letter arrives, pick up 50-100 Hebrew words, and don't foment very much random violence. The RamatAviv stand-up comics make hay off the Russkies, but no one can show me an Israeli neighborhood council that blackballed a Russian FOR BEING Russian.

    You're a saint compared to the Russians - someone will find you a middle-class job. Come with a nest-egg of a few thou $ to tide you over until that happens. No one will demand to inspect your circumcision.

    Bring winter clothes.

    I just watched “Lord of War,” a semi-true movie with Nicholas Cage as a Ukrainian immigrant arms dealer whose parents got to emigrate to Brighton Beach in Brooklyn as victims of Soviet anti-Semitism under the Jackson Act of 1973. Nick and his mother consider the family Catholics who put one over on the dumb Americans, but Nick’s dad, after years of filling in INS forms claiming to be Jewish, now insists the family is Jewish and attends synagogue, which turns out to be helpful in Nick’s nascent arms-dealing career.

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  101. @Bill B.
    Yes "We". And a dropped capital letter does not make a war monger!

    I cleave to the old fashioned idea that my government represents me and is somehow an extension of my social self. Its successes and failures reflect on me. And certainly if my countrymen are likely to fight and possibly die in a foreign land all the more reason for me to be concerned.

    I certainly do not consider America et al to be "innocent" in the Syria business. Indeed Kerry was so incompetent I began to suspect he suffered from an IQ deficiency.

    The problem that has bedeviled Western foreign policy for the last 60 years is the idea that nations are malleable entities that merely require a bit of fine tuning to ... become something like the United States. The neocons were the apotheosis of this idea.

    The notion that nations are tractable has proven extremely durable even when so many times tested to destruction. I have lived half my life in Asia and as each year rolls by I think I know less about the region. Barbara Tuchman's The March of Folly could be updated almost every couple of years with plump, choice examples of Western stupity and bumbling in world affairs.

    But realism also involves not only a cold appreciation of what is in your country's best interests but also an ability to step back to survey the landscape. The United States has made mistakes that cause me to want howl at the moon but as America increasingly steps back we will be reminded that other power players are quite capable of taking up the stupidity slack. And they will be less troubled by internal critics.

    Syria is on the front line of a 1400 year war between Shia and Sunni Islam. The siren call of Jihad wails across the land and to some of the victors go green-eyed Azeri women. Young men and women from Cardiff to Tunis are eager to abandon reason for implacable faith.

    In the cosmic acheme of things America's dabbling will not have changed much.

    “The siren call of Jihad wails across the land and to some of the victors go green-eyed Azeri women.”

    Kipling? Or Krauthammer?

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  102. @cwhatfuture
    The Golan Heights looks that way because the Israelis have held it since 1967. Were the Arabs to hold it, it would be dry and parched, the land completely denuded by Bedouin goats. Syria is in a drought and this is one of the causes of their civil war. The conservative Sunni farmers were unable to farm and came into the cities from the country side where they saw the wealthy Alawi and Christian secular (unveiled) population and anger began to build. Israel is also in a drought and they have far less water resources than Syria but magically Israel has no water shortage at all. Because the Jews planned ahead and have probably the most sophisticated water managment system in the world, the most intesive recycling in the world (they recycle almost all of their sewage water for agriculture) and the most efficient desalination plants in the world. And so on. And this is what the Arabs see. A lush green land held by the Jews and their own brown sandy lands denuded, parched, dry and naturally, they say the Jews stole the best for themselves. The Syrians will turn Austria into a desert if you let them.

    Mark Twain took a tour of Europe and the Holy Land with wealthy American Protestants after the Civil War. The ironic climax of “Innocents Abroad” is when they finally get to Palestine, whose beauties everybody has been reading about in the Bible their whole lives, and it’s an eroded desert.

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  103. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    Mr Netanyahu, tear down this wall!

    Ha! Except the East Germans were trying to get out and Gorbachev’s wall was trapping them in. Hardly comparable to Netanyahu.

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  104. @Anonymous
    A contender for the job as leader of Britain's Labour Party has, the way all good socialists like to do, proposed that each town and city in the UK takes 10 families of refugees. This would make no difference in towns like Rotherham, but might affect places without sufficient diversity yet. But they aren't all families flocking to find jobs in the west (where, as anyone can see, there aren't many at all) but consist of many young men whose need for female contact will lead to, well, the sort of problem Rotherham discovered recently. As many of these eager males are coming from countries where there is already more males than females then they probably can't wait to arrive in places where women are allowed to wander out alone at night.

    No matter: we are doing our bit to help the world. Like Saudi Arabia and China and... what? They aren't taking any refugees? Shameful! Still it is good to know they will play their part in the UN by demanding the west takes more and more.

    I think this is from a time before China’s one child policy, but the idea may still hold. Giddy from his success in pressuring the Soviet Union through the Jackson-Vanek Amendment to allow Jews to leave the oppressive regime they helped create, Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson of Washington decided to work his magic on the Communist Chinese after Nixon had reestablished diplomatic relations. Encountering leader Deng Xiaoping at a reception, Sen. Jackson started his spiel about Communist China letting go some Chinese whose freedom of religion was being suppressed. OK, said Deng, how many do you want? Ten million? Thirty million? Forty million? Sen. Jackson gulped and quickly changed the subject.

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  105. @Qasim
    I also agree.

    And this isn't the first post where Mr. Sailer has veered into bigoted comments toward Muslims.

    And before people start blasting me, let me say a few things. This is my favorite blog. I agree that immigration needs to be severely curtailed or even stopped, and that the influx of people from the third world threatens to irrevocably alter the West for the worse.

    But there is just a meanness in many of the comments that Mr. Sailer writes about Muslims that is absent when he talks about say, the bad behavior of poor blacks and Mexicans or the outsized influence of Jews.

    Granted, most of the other times the West has imported lots of Muslims, we just wound up with dead cartoonists and gang-raped 12-year-old girls all over the place.

    This reminds me of the Trump comment about rapist Mexicans. And like that comment, it unfairly vilifies a whole group, and ends up obscuring the main issue that the problem with too much immigration is that it will probably lead to Balkanization, and that this is the case even if every immigrant is a saint.

    And as far as the Rotterham thing, 99.9% of Muslims would be thrilled if those people were tried, convicted, and put in front of a firing squad. Why should Muslims as a whole keep getting browbeaten about this, especially when it was the white authorities who knew about what was going on and didn't step in because they were pathetically worried about seeming racist and weren't too concerned with the low-class whites that were predominantly the victims?

    Just because the whole "punching down" thing has become a hackneyed cliché doesn't mean it is completely devoid of any truth.

    Sorry, but when I see video of your coreligionists throwing gay men off the tops of buildings and bidding on 11-year old sex slaves, I guess I’m one of the meanies.

    The fact that American blacks convert to Islam at much higher rates than other demographic groups doesn’t help Islamic public relations, either.

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  106. iSteve getting some Twitter love from Coulter. She tweeted a link to this post and the Golan Heights fence post, which is a good thing. If only Ross would do it once in awhile. Ah, well that’s probably not going to happen.

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  107. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @guest
    "The sophisticated reasoning of 2015 is that if you and your countrymen blow up your own country through your sheer mutual bloodymindedness, you therefore have an unassailable moral claim to inhabit the nicest countries on other continents."

    I know you've just taken up Trumpet, but haven't the governments of some of "the nicest countries" fomented the wars in Syria and Libya, to cite but two? Other contributors to this site can enlighten you about that.

    I read and enjoy your blog. But this post is Smugly American.

    «haven’t the governments of some of “the nicest countries” fomented the wars in Syria and Libya»
    Wait.. Did Germany and Sweden had something to do with the interventions in Iraq and Libya? I seem to recall they were very much against the intervention in Iraq and didn’t participate in it.

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    What is your point? If your question is sincere, do your own research. If rhetorical, I said "some."

    I agree that if Germany and Sweden did as you say with respect to Iraq or Libya, kudos. Germany, however, was on Hillary's Team Syria. See #74, above.
    , @guest
    You might also be interested in this article on the two countries that you mentioned:


    http://news.antiwar.com/2015/09/04/germany-sweden-making-kill-decisions-for-us-drone-strikes-in-afghanistan/
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  108. Any one of a number of muslim Islamic countries–Kuwait Arabia Turkey Dubya etc NOT in Christian White countries NOT IN AMERIKA

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  109. @Anonymous
    «haven’t the governments of some of “the nicest countries” fomented the wars in Syria and Libya»
    Wait.. Did Germany and Sweden had something to do with the interventions in Iraq and Libya? I seem to recall they were very much against the intervention in Iraq and didn't participate in it.

    What is your point? If your question is sincere, do your own research. If rhetorical, I said “some.”

    I agree that if Germany and Sweden did as you say with respect to Iraq or Libya, kudos. Germany, however, was on Hillary’s Team Syria. See #74, above.

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  110. >Implying Israel did not help the terrorists who fights Assad

    This is pretty anti-semitic! Jews help people…if they serve their interest!

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    I don’t understand why the UN wants to impose quotas of migrants on Western Europe only. Why not impose quotas on the African Union, OPEC,Latin American countries, and Asian-Pacific countries too if it’s a worldwide crisis? Why put everything on the back of Europeans who have very slow rates of growth and big social problems? But mostly the bigger quotas should be on muslim countries so they would feel more at home and the cultural adaptation would be easier. Why don’t I hear anyone in the media propose this fair and common sense solution?
    It’s sad the toddler died, but the surviving father is a criminal and should be put in jail for attempting such a risky transportation. He could have stayed in Turkey and waited to gather enough money to attempt a safer route than on an overcrwoded inflatable boat. The father should be put in jail, he can mourn all he wants but as the head of the family, he made a senseless choice to expose his wife and kids to such risks. He deserves the same punishment as a drunk driver driving a bus full of kids. And the smugglers are not as guilty as the people in my opinion because NO ONE IS FORCED TO EMBARK in dangerous dingy boats, it’s a choice.
    His best choice was to stay in Turkey until his relative in Canada sent him more money to make a life in Turkey, a very touristy country that is not too bad. But he was greedy and wanted to get to the countries with all the free stuff thrown at migrants. Before you wrongly judge me, I live in the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF MAURITANIA, there is no war there, Senegal is also a peaceful muslim country, Morocco is also a peaceful muslim country, Tunisia is also a peaceful muslim country, Turkey is also a peaceful muslim country, Qatar, is a peaceful muslim country, Oman is a peaceful muslim country, UAE is a peaceful muslim country, Saudi Arabia is a peaceful muslim country, Indonesia is also a peaceful muslim country,Indonesia is peaceful, Malaysia is peaceful the list can go on and on. My point is that there are plenty of PEACEFUL muslim countries these refugees can flee to without crossing the mediteranean for non muslim Europe if their true purpose is to escape war and protect their family from being killed or persecuted. But what these migrants show by taking these insane risks exposing their children and wives to death when they cross the mediteranean in dingy boats is that they really die of GREED because they don’t care about finding a peaceful refuge but care about trying to exploit the social safety nets hardworking legal Europeans worked for all their lives for themselves, their children and grand children not the the children of the entire muslim world.They die trying to seek FREE MONEY AND FOOD for their family. If they only cared about safety, they would make the easier voyage to any of the other muslim countries I LISTED and many more, NO ONE DARES SAY WHAT I SAY BECAUSE OF POLITICAL CORECTNESS BUT I HOPE SOMEONE WILL BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO SAY IT BECAUSE THIS IS THE REALITY AND THE SOLUTION. I don’t want people to die either but let’s admit greed is driving them not just the search for a refuge.

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  112. @Qasim
    I am sorry, I mistook you for a reasonable person.

    The suggestion that the West does not denounce its degenerates is ludicrous and lame to the point where I suspect you to be a Muslim hasbara writer.

    Um, did you read what I wrote? I said most groups do not generally denounce their degenerates and this is true. Do blacks? Do Mexicans? Do Jews? And I specifically pointed out that although whites often do this, it just makes people attack them more.

    Rotherham had everything to do with Islamic views of women and infidels and Pakistani Muslim clan solidarity and contempt for the weak.

    Again fornication is absolutely forbidden in Islam, let alone rape. You are taking a cultural problem and flipping into a religious one.

    Rotherham is just the tip the the iceberg and the total victims could number hundreds of thousands , if not a million or more, according to at least one concerned politician.

    More than a million? Why not just make it a billion?

    You are attempting the usual Muslim Teflon defence of patrolling the borders of of Islam against all criticism.

    Did you even read my post? Let me repeat...

    I never said there isn't something very wrong with the version of Islam promoted by Sunni jurists or that ISIS ideology comes from nowhere.

    Asabiyya mentioned perhaps in the video being discussed in Steve’s latest post. Kuwaiti video.

    Anonymous says:
    September 6, 2015 at 5:14 am GMT
    I don’t speak Arabic, but this looks legit to me and, considering the Gulf states’ prior immigration policies, doesn’t seem outside the bounds of what a Kuwaiti official would say.

    (By the way, I think I heard him say asabiyya)

    REPLYTWEET THIS COMMENTER

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  113. @Anonymous
    «haven’t the governments of some of “the nicest countries” fomented the wars in Syria and Libya»
    Wait.. Did Germany and Sweden had something to do with the interventions in Iraq and Libya? I seem to recall they were very much against the intervention in Iraq and didn't participate in it.

    You might also be interested in this article on the two countries that you mentioned:

    http://news.antiwar.com/2015/09/04/germany-sweden-making-kill-decisions-for-us-drone-strikes-in-afghanistan/

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  114. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    A Saudi news station indicated that the Syrians would be emotionally traumatized due to their current conditions, and as such, they would not be suitable to live with the rest of the Kuweitis, Saudis and the seven wealthy Emirates. He concludes that they would be more suitable to live in Germany, Austria, as a first choice, and second choice I guess would be any other European country like Iceland, Greece etc. So the Saudis and the Kuweitis consider themselves “emotionally stable” and cannot get along with their Syrian countrymen. However they are willing to offer their prayers to Alla to help the Syrians by the Europeans.

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  115. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Whiskey
    Switzerland, Germany, and the UK are nicer places to live than in Israel. Israel has a finite amount of welfare to give to refugees, whereas the EU has far more, still finite, but orders of magnitude greater. Israel is small, so the amount of refugee welfare money is small.

    Israel is also the future of White people. Surrounded by non-Whites, intent on killing each and every one, down to little girls, for jihad, that is the future of Europe now. There is no turning back. Europe up until now was relatively isolated from the Third World, outside major cities in France, the UK, and West Germany. That's ended, and every young White male is in direct, ***VIOLENT*** competition with every young non-White male for the limited supply of White women.

    Rotherham shows the Jihadi way -- forced prostitution, rape, pimping out girls as young as eight, with the host population police actively abetting the whole thing. That practically guarantees a European Likud movement, complete with violent terrorist antecedents. Irgun is the model, and likely to be effective.

    Lets also be honest here. A lot of the let the refugees in movement is coming from White women who DESPISE their male counterparts for being too cooperative, too "nice" and not violent enough. They figure they can "control" the violent jihadis and get a downscale Fifty Shades of Grey thrill every day by the violence, which believe me is aphrodisiac to women who have not been around it daily.

    Key takeaway: White Western women are if anything MORE decadent than their male counterparts, in desiring violent non-Western men to replace their own.

    Interesting comment…. As a white western woman without children I’ve found myself oscillating between the rational understanding of why the flood of people is bad for Europe and the emotional, empathetic desire to help the immigrants. When I questioned my daily flip-flop in opinion I suddenly told myself: “well, I enjoyed watching the movie Samba, it looked cool there”. Wonder how many Austrian or German women also watched the movie?….

    Just don’t expect other women to admit it, or to even acknowledge it to themselves.

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  116. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The suicidal white guilt that compels people in the west to do this has to be classified as a mental disorder. Most cultures have to be taken by force, western civilized destruction is all self inflicted. Can anyone explain why? Many liberal folks of European dissent have a self loathing that goes beyond ones self and ultimately will destroy civilized society as we know it. Unless this zombie like PC- trans, the so called silent majority is walking around in, can be broken.

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  117. @IHTG
    Another problem with the Golan Heights as the destination for Sunni Syrian refugees is that half the population of the Heights is comprised of Syrian Druze who are hostile (on one occasion, murderously so) to the Syrian opposition. Indeed, even when talking about those contingency plans for taking in refugees, the area seems to earmarked for non-Sunni populations. The idea of taking Druze and even Alawites into the Golan has been floated in the Israel media, but never Sunnis.

    But the sunnis are murderously hostile to the west, so why must we take them?

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  118. Diversity? It sure seems to be a code word for something else. Hmmm ….

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  119. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Big J
    There are other countries adjacent to Syria that have lots of land and Sunni majority populations. Like Saudi Arabia. Jew-bait much?

    There are other countries adjacent to Syria that have lots of land and Sunni majority populations. Like Saudi Arabia. Jew-bait much?

    The American Jew has a history of promoting open borders, mass immigration, and racial quotas in hiring. The Saudis, not so much. So let the Jews demonstrate their principles in Israel.

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  120. I will right away seize your rss feed as I can’t find your email subscription hyperlink or e-newsletter service.
    Do you have any? Please permit me understand so that I may subscribe.

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  121. […] routes” for refugees fleeing Syria. What could be safer than the short overland journey to the Golan Heights, as controlled by […]

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  122. […] On the other hand, accommodating some fraction of the millions fleeing the Syrian debacle in the Golan Heights[2] just never comes up. What kind of crazy person would suggest such a thing? Everybody knows New […]

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