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Something that seems to be a growing trend is for the most privileged people in America to expound upon how they are victimized by the doubts of nobodies like James Damore. For example, from Fortune:

Read YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki’s Response to the Controversial Google Anti-Diversity Memo

Susan Wojcicki

Aug 08, 2017

Yesterday, after reading the news, my daughter asked me a question. “Mom, is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?”

That question, whether it’s been asked outright, whispered quietly, or simply lingered in the back of someone’s mind, has weighed heavily on me throughout my career in technology. Though I’ve been lucky to work at a company where I’ve received a lot of support—from leaders like Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Eric Schmidt, and Jonathan Rosenberg to mentors like Bill Campbell—my experience in the tech industry has shown me just how pervasive that question is.

Note for later how Wojcicki drops the name of Google co-founder Sergey Brin in second in her list of five enlightened males.

Time and again, I’ve faced the slights that come with that question. I’ve had my abilities and commitment to my job questioned. I’ve been left out of key industry events and social gatherings. I’ve had meetings with external leaders where they primarily addressed the more junior male colleagues. I’ve had my comments frequently interrupted and my ideas ignored until they were rephrased by men. No matter how often this all happened, it still hurt.

So when I saw the memo that circulated last week, I once again felt that pain, and empathized with the pain it must have caused others. I thought about the women at Google who are now facing a very public discussion about their abilities, sparked by one of their own co-workers. I thought about the women throughout the tech field who are already dealing with the implicit biases that haunt our industry (which I’ve written about before), now confronting them explicitly. I thought about how the gender gap persists in tech despite declining in other STEM fields, how hard we’ve been working as an industry to reverse that trend, and how this was yet another discouraging signal to young women who aspire to study computer science. And as my child asked me the question I’d long sought to overcome in my own life, I thought about how tragic it was that this unfounded bias was now being exposed to a new generation. …

For instance, what if we replaced the word “women” in the memo with another group? What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …

I thought about all of this, looked at my daughter and answered simply.
“No, it’s not true.”

Susan Wojcicki is the chief executive officer of YouTube.

How did Susan Wojcicki overcome so much oppression and prejudice to rise up to be the CEO of one of Google’s big subsidiaries, while also having five babies? I mean, besides having been Sergey Brin’s sister-in-law?

From USA Today a number of years ago:

After earning her MBA in 1998, Wojcicki bought 232 Santa Margarita Ave. for about $600,000. She rented the garage to two Stanford students for $1,700 a month to help with the mortgage. The renters: no ordinary slackers, but the Google Guys, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, who incubated Google (GOOG) right there.

“It’s a good reminder for the company that we did come from a small house, not a fancy house,” says Wojcicki.

Her life-changing decision to open her home to Brin and Page did more than just help start the world’s most-popular search engine. It also:

•Landed Wojcicki a key early job at Google less than a year after purchasing the home. Today, she’s one of its top-ranked executives, overseeing the crucial online advertising business as vice president of product management.

•Introduced a future husband to Wojcicki’s younger sister Anne, who recently married Brin on an island in the Bahamas. Google has invested $3.9 million in Anne Wojcicki’s biotech start-up, 23andMe.

•Created a cottage industry for the Wojcicki family. Susan Wojcicki’s husband, Dennis Troper, is an operations executive at Google. Brother-in-law Gregor (married to middle sister Janet) is a former Googler who worked in the finance department. Mom Esther Wojcicki, a teacher, has consulted for Google on educational issues.

Their father Stanley Wojcicki was chairman of the Stanford physics department. It’s a very smart family.

But still ….

 
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  2. Trelane says:

    Kraftwerk – Showroom Dummies

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    the German name of this tune is one of those funny German compound words
    schaupfensterpuppen; its alternate title in english is simply mannequin

    you have to hand it to the men behind kraftwerk for singlehandedly inventing electronic music


    Speaking of the Wojnicki's, sister Anne of 23andme attained tabloid notoriety for dating disgraced alleged steroid enthusiast A-Rod

    https://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/alex-rodriguez-anne-wojcicki-met-gala-2016-ball.jpg?w=600

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  3. For Susan and few dozens like her, the struggle is real.

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  4. Achilles says:

    Their father Stanley Wojcicki was chairman of the Stanford physics department

    https://physics.stanford.edu/people/faculty

    I count only eight women out of 50 active faculty in the physics department at Stanford. Now perhaps I missed a tranny-prof or two and I may have miscounted Professor Drell based on only a quick glance.

    https://physics.stanford.edu/people/faculty/persis-drell

    But still.

    Was Dad a Damorist?

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    Eight out of 50 is a lot. When I was in physics classes back in the late 80's at Berkeley, I remember no women on the faculty. there was only one female physics TA and she wasn't all that good, poor thing. She was actually a history of physics grad student. I went to the other male TA's to get help with the homework. Lots of them had limited English skills.
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  5. Wasn’t Susan the one who suggested the idea of AdWords as a way for the search engine to, you know, actually make money? From the business point of view that’s much more important than what Brin and Page did with PageRank.

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    Wasn’t Susan the one who suggested the idea of AdWords as a way for the search engine to, you know, actually make money? From the business point of view that’s much more important than what Brin and Page did with PageRank.

     

    That's somewhat like what this says: https://www.inc.com/marla-tabaka/12-surprising-facts-about-youtube-ceo-susan-wojcicki.html

    4. You know Google’s AdSense? You can thank Wojcicki for that. She came up with the innovative idea to adapt Google’s AdWords into the self-service platform that it is today.
     
    But there is enough difference that I suspect what you said is not literally true (i.e. it sounds like her contribution came later and I find it hard to believe the originator of the AdWords concept did not think of monetization). Who knows though? As Steve says, that is a very smart family and she was there from the beginning.

    Another good example of a top notch female engineer is Daniela Witten. Perhaps not a coincidence that she is also the daughter of a top physicist--Edward Witten.

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  6. Impolitic says:

    “Yesterday, after reading the news, my daughter asked me a question. ‘Mom, is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?’”

    Sure, that sounds like how human beings talk.

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    "my daughter asked me a question. ‘Mom, is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?’"

    It's untrue of course. But she's Harvard, she's got an MBA, so what do you expect?

    , @Lot
    I think billionaires like Wojcicki are so used to not being called out on their lies that they end up being very bad liars. Trump is another example, and yet another is Thomas Friedman, who on every foreign trip finds a cab driver who eloquently agrees with Thomas Friedman and provides a colorful story illustrating the column's thesis.

    You have to also like how she described her old house, currently zestimated at $2.3 million, and whose garage, 19 years ago, rented for $1700 a month, as "small" and "not fancy."

    , @Patrick in SC
    I was gonna say: Chances her daughter actually said this: Pretty close to zero.

    Not a hanging offense, to be sure, but emblematic of the petty (and increasingly not so petty) lying which pervades political discourse these days. (Think Hillary's "under fire" tall tale).
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  7. Dan Hayes says:

    Steve,

    Par for the course for Fortune Magazine.

    The spirit of Henry “China Boy” Luce is alive and well for continuation of The Project for the New American Century now with a dollop of feminist sensibilities!

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  8. I love the way this cretin answers the question her daughter raises about the science with tales of victimization and pointing and sputtering over speculated badthinking.

    This is a live recording of the actual process of thinking for our entitled SJW billionaires.

    This is our elite, all the way down.

    Especially the women, of course — but that has nothing to do with any stereotype!

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  9. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    So far as I can tell, Susan’s wikipedia page makes no mention of her being Sergey’s sister-in-law (ok, ex sister-in-law). On the other hand, she is described as being “the most powerful woman on the internet”. I’m sure these facts are entirely disparate.

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  10. We should feel sorry for this woman!

    She is prone to seeing things through an emotional lens, and she has a hard time understanding or accepting scientific facts.

    Hmm… could there be a biological reason for this, Mom?

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  11. Impolitic says:

    Structurally, this is the “Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Clause” letter. Except instead of the message being, “There is a Santa Clause, because as a metaphor he represents real behavior”, it’s “There is a Santa Clause, because if there weren’t it would be sad.”

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  12. FKA Max says:
    @Trelane
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    I personally find Kraftwerk to be the quintessential Alt Right music group
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-alt-right-is-political-punk-rock/#comment-1559917


    James Damore responds to Wojcicki and is also asked by the Bloomberg anchor if he identifies with the Alt Right:

    Fired Engineer James Damore: I Feel Google Betrayed Me

    https://youtu.be/s4WoeOkj2Ng?t=3m51s


    `` I feel Rammstein’s cover of ”Stripped” best captures all aspects and the entire spectrum of Alt Right beliefs and aesthetics in one single song and music video, including HBD, e.g. Olympics, etc.
    [...]
    Rammstein Stripped [official video]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3TpAZ96hE0 '' - http://www.unz.com/isteve/alt-right-as-alt-rock/#comment-1564382

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  13. TWS says:

    I had this same conversation with a female engineer several years ago. She wanted the knowledge of sex differences suppressed. She believed they were real, significant and that if one girl was discouraged from pursuing a career in science it would be worth it. Because feels. Feels mattered more than truth, science, or results.

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  14. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    *Way off topic, but juicy* — Some idependent news sites are reporting that Hillary is being investigated by The Justice Department again, and is being offered a plea deal to talk about shady goings on within the DNC.

    She is on ‘vacation’ at the moment. Things could be heating up…

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/19523/report-justice-department-has-offered-hillary-plea-joseph-curl

    http://archive.is/OHrtH

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    Hillary is really really really huge these days.
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  15. For instance, what if we replaced the word “women” in the memo with another group? What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …

    In other words, if this one offensive thing were true, then another, even more offensive thing would be true. But that would be just horrible, horrible! This can mean only that the first offensive thing can’t possibly be true.

    Modus Offendo Tollens.

    Billionaire Logic.

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    Modus Offendo Tollens.

    Hilarious! I love it.
    , @Forbes

    For instance, what if we replaced the word “women” in the memo with another group?
     
    How about Martians? Or...Super Heroes? Or...children? Or...Zombies? What would explain their under-representation in tech? Different skill-sets? Different cognitive ability? Different interests and preferences and choices?

    Different assumptions, conditions, and/or facts might result in different conclusions. But apparently in GoogleWorld, the only response is a universal call for swift action against the heretic.

    I'll repeat something I saw the other day: The Left wants the Right to shut-up, the Right wants the Left to keep talking.
    , @TomSchmidt

    Modus Offendo Tollens.
     
    Oh, that's good.
    , @res
    This is even funnier given that IQ differences indicate at least one of the more offensive arguments is more true than the women version.
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  16. J.C. says:

    I think the most revealing part of this nepocrat’s progressive blabber is the part where she writes:

    “What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …”

    There she displays – in pure and unadulterated language – her nepocratic billionaire’s progressive ideology:

    (1) Complete denial of the possibility that there are biological differences between various human groups – which in turn could impact differently their abilities, behavior and performance; i.e.: the degree that some demographic groups might be over or under represented in particular fields, sports, activities and professions.

    (2) Dogmatic, absolutist, tyranical swift action – full medieval inquisition – against any and all dissident perpetrating the thought-crime of unbiased, objective and rational scientific thinking.

    These tyrannical nepocrats own Wall Street, Hollywood, the Ivy League, the Federal, State and local government’s levers of power, Silicon Valley, and the news media.

    We have a long journey ahead trying to escape the digital panopticon prison they have built for us.

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    The key word here is "swift". The denunciation of a Badthinker must above all be SWIFT. We have been watching you comrade - we noticed that not only were you the first one to stop clapping at Comrade Stalin's speech but when he denounced the wrecker Trotsky you were the LAST one to cry out for his blood. I hope that the other Comrades will take heed of this and in the future cry out SWIFTLY for their execution when any wreckers are accused.

    Or in the words of the Duke Gang of 88, "thank you for not waiting" [to denounce the Duke "rapists"].
    , @StillCARealist
    I was thinking how being Black or Hispanic is the same in her mind as being "LGBTQ". I think she's making a real category error here.
    , @ben tillman

    “What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …” That's wgat the "or" means.

    There she displays – in pure and unadulterated language – her nepocratic billionaire’s progressive ideology:

    (1) Complete denial of the possibility that there are biological differences between various human groups
     

    However, what the dumbass actually wrote referred to the differences within those groups, not between or among them. That's what the "or" means.
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  17. Worthwhile insights into Youtube and Wojcicki from, of all sources, FastCompany

    https://www.fastcompany.com/40427026/susan-wojcickis-youtube-isnt-tv-but-its-tvs-biggest-rival

    There are high stakes afoot here…

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  18. As I say under an earlier post:

    The funny and ironic thing about her article is that she is the poster child for a bright, driven woman who chose not to go into STEM. Her father is a physicist, she’s privileged, she had boundless opportunity — studied history and literature at Harvard. Her master’s degrees are in business and economics. Her career has been completely business, marketing and advertising roles. She’s not a coder, not an engineer. It’s reasonable to think she could have suceeded as a coder, but it wasn’t what she wanted.

    She’s a walking example of Damore’s thesis.

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    Great, great point. When I talk about this subject with my friends, I'm going to steal this without attribution...
    , @reiner Tor
    I just used up my agree button. I nevertheless do agree. It's a very good point which I will also steal without attribution.
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  19. These progs having woke children asking rhetorical questions that just happen to form a thesis for their essay is something of a cliche.

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  20. dearieme says:
    @Impolitic
    "Yesterday, after reading the news, my daughter asked me a question. 'Mom, is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?'"

    Sure, that sounds like how human beings talk.

    “my daughter asked me a question. ‘Mom, is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?’”

    It’s untrue of course. But she’s Harvard, she’s got an MBA, so what do you expect?

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    She needs some mansplainin’*

    *Mansplainin’ is a trademarked term of the Hillary2016 campaign.

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  23. @Trelane
    Kraftwerk - Showroom Dummies

    https://youtu.be/ZJ9Stc9ONyY

    the German name of this tune is one of those funny German compound words
    schaupfensterpuppen; its alternate title in english is simply mannequin

    you have to hand it to the men behind kraftwerk for singlehandedly inventing electronic music

    Speaking of the Wojnicki’s, sister Anne of 23andme attained tabloid notoriety for dating disgraced alleged steroid enthusiast A-Rod

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    you have to hand it to the men behind kraftwerk for singlehandedly inventing electronic music
     
    Not singlehandedly; Giorgio Moroder deserves at least equal credit.
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  24. Their father Stanley Wojcicki was chairman of the Stanford physics department. It’s a very smart family.

    Maybe. But–in the unlikely event this actually occurred–in answer to

    “Mom, is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?”

    She is unable to come up with something truthful like:

    “Relative to the opposite sex, women tend to be more interested in people and men more interested in things. So more women who have the IQ to be good in tech, instead go into law or medicine or get their MBAs to make money in business … like me. While more men who have the IQ to do those things, study computers instead and sit in their offices twidlling around with computer code and making mommy very, very rich without having to know anything about computers at all!”

    But instead she flat out lies to her kid.

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  25. “What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles?”

    Lesbians and M2F transsexuals are over-represented as a fraction of females in tech, especially in elite positions like CS researcher or Google coder. Just as Damorism predicts.

    Damorism also predicts that gays are under-represented within the male programmer population, for the same reasons that they are over-represented in the fashion industry and ballet. Correct again! http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/05/opinion/manil-suri-why-is-science-so-straight.html

    Damore’s model is parsimonious and predictive. (Wojcicki’s is sanctimonious and restrictive.)

    Overlapping Bell Curves: Organizing the World’s Sociological Information.

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    I attended the Kansasfest Apple II conference for the last two years and found from personal observation that several of the "women" were pretty obvious transsexuals, although the most active female participant, an active game developer, does seem to be a 'real girl'.

    A hobby gathering of retrocomputing and computer history buffs might not be the most representative cross section, but several of these people were fairly big in the earlier days of personal computer software before the IBM compatible PCs steamrollered the 8 bit systems.
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  26. I’m not ambitious enough to want to overthrow my rulers and take over myself, I’m too cynical to care about replacing them with a new and different set of rulers, but I’ll settle for my rulers being miserable, unhappy, and unable to enjoy their wealth and power.

    I also saw a theory like this explaining the popularity of Kid Rock’s senate run. People really wouldn’t want Kid Rock to be their neighbor, but they sure do want him to be the senators’ neighbor and make the senators’ lives hell.

    I want them to be hurt. I want them to suffer. I hope they are not just faking it for PR purposes.

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  27. •Created a cottage industry for the Wojcicki family.

    Indeed.

    However, it doesn’t look like it’s worked out very well for Google or Sergey Brin. Susan failed in her responsibility to create a competitive video sharing service–so Google just bought out the competition (YouTube) instead. Anne–once fully funded–has dumped and looted Sergey and been off hunting for dark meat.

    Sometimes physinognomy actually does line up with character. Ugly people through and through.

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  28. Wilkey says:

    How ’bout we cut these people a deal? We’ll stop talking about how men are generally more likely to be really really really good at math and science vs. women if they stop demanding equality of outcome?

    I mean 99% of the reason we’re even talking about this shit is because *they* are complaining that women (blacks, Latinos, etc) are discriminated against, with disparity as their only evidence.

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  29. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @academic gossip

    “What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles?"
     
    Lesbians and M2F transsexuals are over-represented as a fraction of females in tech, especially in elite positions like CS researcher or Google coder. Just as Damorism predicts.

    Damorism also predicts that gays are under-represented within the male programmer population, for the same reasons that they are over-represented in the fashion industry and ballet. Correct again! http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/05/opinion/manil-suri-why-is-science-so-straight.html

    Damore's model is parsimonious and predictive. (Wojcicki's is sanctimonious and restrictive.)

    Overlapping Bell Curves: Organizing the World's Sociological Information.

    I attended the Kansasfest Apple II conference for the last two years and found from personal observation that several of the “women” were pretty obvious transsexuals, although the most active female participant, an active game developer, does seem to be a ‘real girl’.

    A hobby gathering of retrocomputing and computer history buffs might not be the most representative cross section, but several of these people were fairly big in the earlier days of personal computer software before the IBM compatible PCs steamrollered the 8 bit systems.

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  30. growing trend is for the most privileged people in America to expound upon how they are victimized by the doubts of nobodies

    That’s an easy one. Even nobodies can speak the truth. They aren’t offended by opinions but by people saying things they know deep down to be true.

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  31. Olorin says:

    Victimized by others’ doubts, you say?

    Gotta be some way we can turn that into a monetarizable grievance category. The Doubt-Raped.

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  32. Lot says:
    @Impolitic
    "Yesterday, after reading the news, my daughter asked me a question. 'Mom, is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?'"

    Sure, that sounds like how human beings talk.

    I think billionaires like Wojcicki are so used to not being called out on their lies that they end up being very bad liars. Trump is another example, and yet another is Thomas Friedman, who on every foreign trip finds a cab driver who eloquently agrees with Thomas Friedman and provides a colorful story illustrating the column’s thesis.

    You have to also like how she described her old house, currently zestimated at $2.3 million, and whose garage, 19 years ago, rented for $1700 a month, as “small” and “not fancy.”

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    • Agree: snorlax, TWS
    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    Awe, c'mon. Trump may not be perfect, but surely he doesn't lie as much as Tom Friedman.
    , @Dieter Kief

    billionaires like Wojcicki are so used to not being called out on their lies that they end up being very bad liars
     
    Interesting thought! She doesn't bother - her attitude is: Right in their face. And so she gets across and her message can be very short and most likely will find its way into the memories of her listeners.
    It's the advantage that comes with high status: You don't have to think too much about details, people want to listen to you and will (usually (or up to a point...)) follow you anyway.
    , @Dieter Kief

    billionaires like Wojcicki are so used to not being called out on their lies that they end up being very bad liars
     
    Interesting thought! She doesn't bother - it's all right in your face. And so you get across and your message can be very short and most likely will find its way into the memories of your listeners. It's the advantage that comes with a high status: You don't have to think too much about details, people want to listen to you and will (usually (or up to a point...)) follow you for sure.
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  33. FKA Max says:
    @FKA Max
    Man. Nature. Technology.

    Kraftwerk - Expo 2000 (HD 1080p)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-EKzlNQ8BM


    I personally find
    Kraftwerk to be the quintessential Alt Right music group – http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-alt-right-is-political-punk-rock/#comment-1559917

    James Damore responds to Wojcicki and is also asked by the Bloomberg anchor if he identifies with the Alt Right:

    Fired Engineer James Damore: I Feel Google Betrayed Me

    “ I feel Rammstein’s cover of ”Stripped” best captures all aspects and the entire spectrum of Alt Right beliefs and aesthetics in one single song and music video, including HBD, e.g. Olympics, etc.
    [...]
    Rammstein Stripped [official video]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3TpAZ96hE0 ” – http://www.unz.com/isteve/alt-right-as-alt-rock/#comment-1564382

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    I'd put Heino above Rammstein:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEYQzK2FMJM
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  34. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @FKA Max

    I personally find Kraftwerk to be the quintessential Alt Right music group
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-alt-right-is-political-punk-rock/#comment-1559917


    James Damore responds to Wojcicki and is also asked by the Bloomberg anchor if he identifies with the Alt Right:

    Fired Engineer James Damore: I Feel Google Betrayed Me

    https://youtu.be/s4WoeOkj2Ng?t=3m51s


    `` I feel Rammstein’s cover of ”Stripped” best captures all aspects and the entire spectrum of Alt Right beliefs and aesthetics in one single song and music video, including HBD, e.g. Olympics, etc.
    [...]
    Rammstein Stripped [official video]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3TpAZ96hE0 '' - http://www.unz.com/isteve/alt-right-as-alt-rock/#comment-1564382

    I’d put Heino above Rammstein:

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  35. @candid_observer

    For instance, what if we replaced the word “women” in the memo with another group? What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …
     
    In other words, if this one offensive thing were true, then another, even more offensive thing would be true. But that would be just horrible, horrible! This can mean only that the first offensive thing can't possibly be true.

    Modus Offendo Tollens.

    Billionaire Logic.

    Modus Offendo Tollens.

    Hilarious! I love it.

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  36. @Lot
    I think billionaires like Wojcicki are so used to not being called out on their lies that they end up being very bad liars. Trump is another example, and yet another is Thomas Friedman, who on every foreign trip finds a cab driver who eloquently agrees with Thomas Friedman and provides a colorful story illustrating the column's thesis.

    You have to also like how she described her old house, currently zestimated at $2.3 million, and whose garage, 19 years ago, rented for $1700 a month, as "small" and "not fancy."

    Awe, c’mon. Trump may not be perfect, but surely he doesn’t lie as much as Tom Friedman.

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  37. TheJester says:

    Come on! There are no differences between men and women … physical, chemical, emotional, intellectual, etc. I know that science and the experience of humanity tell me otherwise, but would my eyes and 70 years of experience with mothers, sisters, daughters, and female associates lie to me?

    Didn’t you know, the past is irrelevant. Humans have moved beyond Nature in the New World Order. We have finally proved the New Soviet Man and New Soviet Woman were achievable (albeit not in the Soviet Union). This was a very difficult political and social achievement that requires eternal vigilance and group solidarity to keep the “naturalists” from ruining everything. We need discipline and right-thinking (Soviet science) to keep things straight.

    But, I do have a question. If there are no differences between men and women, it would seem to follow that diversity in this particular aspect of human experience is an empty concept. Diversity, I would think, assumes differences between men and women as well as differences in race, culture, religion, etc. Indeed, the more the better.

    Hence, it would follow that advocating diversity or affirmative action to increase the number of women in STEM would be a contradiction … much like imposing diversity on society to prove there is no diversity in race, culture, religion, etc.

    I’m confused.

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    There is no paradox here Comrade. Marx tells us that between capitalist and communist society, there is a transitory period known as the dictatorship of the proletariat. We are cooking up a tasty omelet for you, Comrade - you will like it for sure when it is done. We are aware of your sensitive nature and ask you to look the other way while we are breaking the eggs to make it. We assure you that the eggs feel no pain while they are being beaten.

    In order to achieve a world where people no longer have any consciousness of differences between races or genders, we must first be EXTRA conscious of them. However, comrade, this is only a temporary phase. Comrade Justice O'Connor told us that that this phase would only last 25 years, but she may have underestimated, perhaps even by an order of magnitude. You may not even be alive to see the day when this temporary phase is concluded, but I assure you Comrade that when that day comes it will be glorious!
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  38. dearieme says:

    Various people have been urging the assassination of Trump, without much comeback as far as I can see. What would happen if some fruitcake started to urge the assassination of the bosses at Google, Fascbook, and so on? Nothing? Instant arrest?

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  39. So, ignoring the role luck played here, she nevertheless used the EQ and Soft Social Skills attributed as women’s strengths rather than any particular STEM skills to get ahead. How is the manifesto mistaken in her case?

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  40. Clyde says:
    @Anonymous
    *Way off topic, but juicy* -- Some idependent news sites are reporting that Hillary is being investigated by The Justice Department again, and is being offered a plea deal to talk about shady goings on within the DNC.

    She is on 'vacation' at the moment. Things could be heating up...



    http://www.dailywire.com/news/19523/report-justice-department-has-offered-hillary-plea-joseph-curl

    http://archive.is/OHrtH

    Hillary is really really really huge these days.

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    This UK Mail photo shows how huge she is http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/07/08/42FF29B100000578-4766928-image-a-25_1502091794778.jpg

    The caption is: Hillary was spotted out and about in New York in the days before the ceremony, as she strolled around Madison Avenue for a shopping trip with a couple of her friends....... (the ceremony was the son and daughter of two hedge fund honchos getting married)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4766928/Clintons-attend-hedge-fund-billionaires-daughter-s-wedding.html#ixzz4pMasziY9

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  41. @Lot
    I think billionaires like Wojcicki are so used to not being called out on their lies that they end up being very bad liars. Trump is another example, and yet another is Thomas Friedman, who on every foreign trip finds a cab driver who eloquently agrees with Thomas Friedman and provides a colorful story illustrating the column's thesis.

    You have to also like how she described her old house, currently zestimated at $2.3 million, and whose garage, 19 years ago, rented for $1700 a month, as "small" and "not fancy."

    billionaires like Wojcicki are so used to not being called out on their lies that they end up being very bad liars

    Interesting thought! She doesn’t bother – her attitude is: Right in their face. And so she gets across and her message can be very short and most likely will find its way into the memories of her listeners.
    It’s the advantage that comes with high status: You don’t have to think too much about details, people want to listen to you and will (usually (or up to a point…)) follow you anyway.

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  42. @Lot
    I think billionaires like Wojcicki are so used to not being called out on their lies that they end up being very bad liars. Trump is another example, and yet another is Thomas Friedman, who on every foreign trip finds a cab driver who eloquently agrees with Thomas Friedman and provides a colorful story illustrating the column's thesis.

    You have to also like how she described her old house, currently zestimated at $2.3 million, and whose garage, 19 years ago, rented for $1700 a month, as "small" and "not fancy."

    billionaires like Wojcicki are so used to not being called out on their lies that they end up being very bad liars

    Interesting thought! She doesn’t bother – it’s all right in your face. And so you get across and your message can be very short and most likely will find its way into the memories of your listeners. It’s the advantage that comes with a high status: You don’t have to think too much about details, people want to listen to you and will (usually (or up to a point…)) follow you for sure.

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    This is a big problem with people in protected categories like her, Marissa Mayer, Elizabeth Holmes, and Barack Obama. They go through their whole lives with everyone telling them how great they are. No one will say no to them. They end up surrounded by sycophants in a vicious cycle.

    You almost feel sorry for them because it must be hard to escape the bubble of affirmation in which they live. The solipsistic lack of self-reflection (in which people other than white males are deficient to begin with) must rate as one of the principal problems in our societal divide between the elites and nobodies.

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  43. Bleuteaux says:

    “Mom, is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?”

    J.F.C., how the fuck do these people get away with this shit? Was any 20thC dictator this much of a sociopathic liar?

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  44. snorlax says:
    @jesse helms think-alike
    the German name of this tune is one of those funny German compound words
    schaupfensterpuppen; its alternate title in english is simply mannequin

    you have to hand it to the men behind kraftwerk for singlehandedly inventing electronic music


    Speaking of the Wojnicki's, sister Anne of 23andme attained tabloid notoriety for dating disgraced alleged steroid enthusiast A-Rod

    https://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/alex-rodriguez-anne-wojcicki-met-gala-2016-ball.jpg?w=600

    you have to hand it to the men behind kraftwerk for singlehandedly inventing electronic music

    Not singlehandedly; Giorgio Moroder deserves at least equal credit.

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  45. Jack D says:

    Yesterday, after reading the news, my daughter asked me a question. “Mom, is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?”

    said no child, ever.

    Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

    We really need a better leadership class or at least one that is more skilled in propaganda. The tired rhetorical device of putting loaded questions in the mouths of innocent babes has been done to death. It was old in 1897 and in 2017 is well past its “sell by” date. Do they really think that we are that stupid?

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  46. Jack D says:
    @J.C.
    I think the most revealing part of this nepocrat's progressive blabber is the part where she writes:

    "What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …"

    There she displays – in pure and unadulterated language – her nepocratic billionaire's progressive ideology:

    (1) Complete denial of the possibility that there are biological differences between various human groups – which in turn could impact differently their abilities, behavior and performance; i.e.: the degree that some demographic groups might be over or under represented in particular fields, sports, activities and professions.

    (2) Dogmatic, absolutist, tyranical swift action – full medieval inquisition – against any and all dissident perpetrating the thought-crime of unbiased, objective and rational scientific thinking.

    These tyrannical nepocrats own Wall Street, Hollywood, the Ivy League, the Federal, State and local government's levers of power, Silicon Valley, and the news media.

    We have a long journey ahead trying to escape the digital panopticon prison they have built for us.

    The key word here is “swift”. The denunciation of a Badthinker must above all be SWIFT. We have been watching you comrade – we noticed that not only were you the first one to stop clapping at Comrade Stalin’s speech but when he denounced the wrecker Trotsky you were the LAST one to cry out for his blood. I hope that the other Comrades will take heed of this and in the future cry out SWIFTLY for their execution when any wreckers are accused.

    Or in the words of the Duke Gang of 88, “thank you for not waiting” [to denounce the Duke "rapists"].

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  47. @Impolitic
    "Yesterday, after reading the news, my daughter asked me a question. 'Mom, is it true that there are biological reasons why there are fewer women in tech and leadership?'"

    Sure, that sounds like how human beings talk.

    I was gonna say: Chances her daughter actually said this: Pretty close to zero.

    Not a hanging offense, to be sure, but emblematic of the petty (and increasingly not so petty) lying which pervades political discourse these days. (Think Hillary’s “under fire” tall tale).

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  48. Jack D says:

    What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees

    So, in conclusion, white women, even wealthy white women, even wealthy white women who are billionaires like me, are entitled to the same number of victim Pokemon points as blacks, Hispanics or LGBTQRSTUV people. We are all victims of evil white men like that nobody schlemiel Damore. All of us – Oprah, Dr. Dre, Jennifer Lopez, RuPaul, David Geffen and myself, we are all his victims. Thank you.

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  49. @Jack D

    What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees
     
    So, in conclusion, white women, even wealthy white women, even wealthy white women who are billionaires like me, are entitled to the same number of victim Pokemon points as blacks, Hispanics or LGBTQRSTUV people. We are all victims of evil white men like that nobody schlemiel Damore. All of us - Oprah, Dr. Dre, Jennifer Lopez, RuPaul, David Geffen and myself, we are all his victims. Thank you.

    Are gay white men still a protected class?

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  50. Jack D says:
    @TheJester
    Come on! There are no differences between men and women ... physical, chemical, emotional, intellectual, etc. I know that science and the experience of humanity tell me otherwise, but would my eyes and 70 years of experience with mothers, sisters, daughters, and female associates lie to me?

    Didn't you know, the past is irrelevant. Humans have moved beyond Nature in the New World Order. We have finally proved the New Soviet Man and New Soviet Woman were achievable (albeit not in the Soviet Union). This was a very difficult political and social achievement that requires eternal vigilance and group solidarity to keep the "naturalists" from ruining everything. We need discipline and right-thinking (Soviet science) to keep things straight.

    But, I do have a question. If there are no differences between men and women, it would seem to follow that diversity in this particular aspect of human experience is an empty concept. Diversity, I would think, assumes differences between men and women as well as differences in race, culture, religion, etc. Indeed, the more the better.

    Hence, it would follow that advocating diversity or affirmative action to increase the number of women in STEM would be a contradiction ... much like imposing diversity on society to prove there is no diversity in race, culture, religion, etc.

    I'm confused.

    There is no paradox here Comrade. Marx tells us that between capitalist and communist society, there is a transitory period known as the dictatorship of the proletariat. We are cooking up a tasty omelet for you, Comrade – you will like it for sure when it is done. We are aware of your sensitive nature and ask you to look the other way while we are breaking the eggs to make it. We assure you that the eggs feel no pain while they are being beaten.

    In order to achieve a world where people no longer have any consciousness of differences between races or genders, we must first be EXTRA conscious of them. However, comrade, this is only a temporary phase. Comrade Justice O’Connor told us that that this phase would only last 25 years, but she may have underestimated, perhaps even by an order of magnitude. You may not even be alive to see the day when this temporary phase is concluded, but I assure you Comrade that when that day comes it will be glorious!

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  51. Jack D says:
    @snorlax

    you have to hand it to the men behind kraftwerk for singlehandedly inventing electronic music
     
    Not singlehandedly; Giorgio Moroder deserves at least equal credit.

    What about Wendy/Walter Carlos? Not only was he/she a pioneer in electronic music, but he was one of the first trannie celebrities.

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  52. Clyde says:
    @Clyde
    Hillary is really really really huge these days.

    This UK Mail photo shows how huge she is
    The caption is: Hillary was spotted out and about in New York in the days before the ceremony, as she strolled around Madison Avenue for a shopping trip with a couple of her friends……. (the ceremony was the son and daughter of two hedge fund honchos getting married)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4766928/Clintons-attend-hedge-fund-billionaires-daughter-s-wedding.html#ixzz4pMasziY9

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  53. @Achilles

    Their father Stanley Wojcicki was chairman of the Stanford physics department
     
    https://physics.stanford.edu/people/faculty

    I count only eight women out of 50 active faculty in the physics department at Stanford. Now perhaps I missed a tranny-prof or two and I may have miscounted Professor Drell based on only a quick glance.

    https://physics.stanford.edu/people/faculty/persis-drell

    But still.

    Was Dad a Damorist?

    Eight out of 50 is a lot. When I was in physics classes back in the late 80′s at Berkeley, I remember no women on the faculty. there was only one female physics TA and she wasn’t all that good, poor thing. She was actually a history of physics grad student. I went to the other male TA’s to get help with the homework. Lots of them had limited English skills.

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  54. @J.C.
    I think the most revealing part of this nepocrat's progressive blabber is the part where she writes:

    "What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …"

    There she displays – in pure and unadulterated language – her nepocratic billionaire's progressive ideology:

    (1) Complete denial of the possibility that there are biological differences between various human groups – which in turn could impact differently their abilities, behavior and performance; i.e.: the degree that some demographic groups might be over or under represented in particular fields, sports, activities and professions.

    (2) Dogmatic, absolutist, tyranical swift action – full medieval inquisition – against any and all dissident perpetrating the thought-crime of unbiased, objective and rational scientific thinking.

    These tyrannical nepocrats own Wall Street, Hollywood, the Ivy League, the Federal, State and local government's levers of power, Silicon Valley, and the news media.

    We have a long journey ahead trying to escape the digital panopticon prison they have built for us.

    I was thinking how being Black or Hispanic is the same in her mind as being “LGBTQ”. I think she’s making a real category error here.

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  55. @Cloudbuster
    As I say under an earlier post:

    The funny and ironic thing about her article is that she is the poster child for a bright, driven woman who chose not to go into STEM. Her father is a physicist, she’s privileged, she had boundless opportunity — studied history and literature at Harvard. Her master’s degrees are in business and economics. Her career has been completely business, marketing and advertising roles. She’s not a coder, not an engineer. It’s reasonable to think she could have suceeded as a coder, but it wasn’t what she wanted.

    She’s a walking example of Damore’s thesis.

    Great, great point. When I talk about this subject with my friends, I’m going to steal this without attribution…

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    I’m going to steal this without attribution…

    You bastard! ;)
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  56. As a Christian this is really bad for me to say, but here goes. I think I hate, hate this woman and all of her relatives, blood or otherwise (well besides her minor children, though I’m sure that will change in the future).

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  57. Tweets from 2015, still fresh:

    Google billionaire Eric Schmidt went to Neo-Con headquarters at American Enterprise Institute in 2015 and pushed for more open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Google billionaire Schmidt is an evil baby boomer who wants to racially transform the United States using mass immigration.

    Wojcicki is by no means alone among the Google plutocrats in her desire to destroy the United States using mass immigration. Almost all the plutocrats who control Google are fanatical open borders mass immigration supporters.

    President Trump must immediately begin the process by which Google can be broken up into bits. Google must either be destroyed or obliterated with little bits remaining. Google has given notice that they are a clear and present threat to the national security interests of the United States. Dismantle Google or destroy Google, or both, I don’t care how it is done, but Google must not be allowed to retain the political and financial power that they currently hold.

    Destroy Google Now!

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  58. EdwardM says:
    @Dieter Kief

    billionaires like Wojcicki are so used to not being called out on their lies that they end up being very bad liars
     
    Interesting thought! She doesn't bother - it's all right in your face. And so you get across and your message can be very short and most likely will find its way into the memories of your listeners. It's the advantage that comes with a high status: You don't have to think too much about details, people want to listen to you and will (usually (or up to a point...)) follow you for sure.

    This is a big problem with people in protected categories like her, Marissa Mayer, Elizabeth Holmes, and Barack Obama. They go through their whole lives with everyone telling them how great they are. No one will say no to them. They end up surrounded by sycophants in a vicious cycle.

    You almost feel sorry for them because it must be hard to escape the bubble of affirmation in which they live. The solipsistic lack of self-reflection (in which people other than white males are deficient to begin with) must rate as one of the principal problems in our societal divide between the elites and nobodies.

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    The solipsistic lack of self-reflection

     

    I see: Self-reflection is the gold standard.

    (Problem with self-reflection, as far as I have yet been able to understand it: It's very shy pray (for example: It's impossible to force it onto sombebody. At the very moment you try to do this, you're very likely to destroy it's powers alltogether).

    Second thought - - at first look something else completely:

    Religion once was the connection between those being able to practise the high art of self-reflection - and the others. What I want to say: Religion a) accepted, that not everybody leans towards (or is inclined to) self-reflection, but presented a common ground for both groups nonetheless.

    Now we're heading towards eradicating religion without knowing, what would provide the cmomon ground then. And this might turn out to be quite a risky business.

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  59. Forbes says:
    @candid_observer

    For instance, what if we replaced the word “women” in the memo with another group? What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …
     
    In other words, if this one offensive thing were true, then another, even more offensive thing would be true. But that would be just horrible, horrible! This can mean only that the first offensive thing can't possibly be true.

    Modus Offendo Tollens.

    Billionaire Logic.

    For instance, what if we replaced the word “women” in the memo with another group?

    How about Martians? Or…Super Heroes? Or…children? Or…Zombies? What would explain their under-representation in tech? Different skill-sets? Different cognitive ability? Different interests and preferences and choices?

    Different assumptions, conditions, and/or facts might result in different conclusions. But apparently in GoogleWorld, the only response is a universal call for swift action against the heretic.

    I’ll repeat something I saw the other day: The Left wants the Right to shut-up, the Right wants the Left to keep talking.

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  60. res says:
    @academic gossip
    Wasn't Susan the one who suggested the idea of AdWords as a way for the search engine to, you know, actually make money? From the business point of view that's much more important than what Brin and Page did with PageRank.

    Wasn’t Susan the one who suggested the idea of AdWords as a way for the search engine to, you know, actually make money? From the business point of view that’s much more important than what Brin and Page did with PageRank.

    That’s somewhat like what this says: https://www.inc.com/marla-tabaka/12-surprising-facts-about-youtube-ceo-susan-wojcicki.html

    4. You know Google’s AdSense? You can thank Wojcicki for that. She came up with the innovative idea to adapt Google’s AdWords into the self-service platform that it is today.

    But there is enough difference that I suspect what you said is not literally true (i.e. it sounds like her contribution came later and I find it hard to believe the originator of the AdWords concept did not think of monetization). Who knows though? As Steve says, that is a very smart family and she was there from the beginning.

    Another good example of a top notch female engineer is Daniela Witten. Perhaps not a coincidence that she is also the daughter of a top physicist–Edward Witten.

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    Another good example of a top notch female engineer is Daniela Witten. Perhaps not a coincidence that she is also the daughter of a top physicist–Edward Witten.
     
    Do you mean this Daniela Witten?

    https://faculty.washington.edu/dwitten/

    That says she is an associate professor of Statistics and BioStatistics so she doesn't sound like an engineer, but she should probably be familiar with the differences between males and females.

    It also seems that she married endogamously.
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  61. @candid_observer

    For instance, what if we replaced the word “women” in the memo with another group? What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …
     
    In other words, if this one offensive thing were true, then another, even more offensive thing would be true. But that would be just horrible, horrible! This can mean only that the first offensive thing can't possibly be true.

    Modus Offendo Tollens.

    Billionaire Logic.

    Modus Offendo Tollens.

    Oh, that’s good.

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  62. Can someone who still uses twitter send this to her?:

    “You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.’ Matthew 7:5.

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    There's a good chance that she rejects the New Testament. Just sayin!
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  63. res says:
    @candid_observer

    For instance, what if we replaced the word “women” in the memo with another group? What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …
     
    In other words, if this one offensive thing were true, then another, even more offensive thing would be true. But that would be just horrible, horrible! This can mean only that the first offensive thing can't possibly be true.

    Modus Offendo Tollens.

    Billionaire Logic.

    This is even funnier given that IQ differences indicate at least one of the more offensive arguments is more true than the women version.

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  64. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The key word here is “swift”.

    Gradually, then swiftly.

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  65. What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles?

    Nothing Blacks, Hispanics, and LGBTQs love more than rich white women trying to cut in on their hustle.

    Best watch your back, Suzie Woj.

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  66. @res

    Wasn’t Susan the one who suggested the idea of AdWords as a way for the search engine to, you know, actually make money? From the business point of view that’s much more important than what Brin and Page did with PageRank.

     

    That's somewhat like what this says: https://www.inc.com/marla-tabaka/12-surprising-facts-about-youtube-ceo-susan-wojcicki.html

    4. You know Google’s AdSense? You can thank Wojcicki for that. She came up with the innovative idea to adapt Google’s AdWords into the self-service platform that it is today.
     
    But there is enough difference that I suspect what you said is not literally true (i.e. it sounds like her contribution came later and I find it hard to believe the originator of the AdWords concept did not think of monetization). Who knows though? As Steve says, that is a very smart family and she was there from the beginning.

    Another good example of a top notch female engineer is Daniela Witten. Perhaps not a coincidence that she is also the daughter of a top physicist--Edward Witten.

    Another good example of a top notch female engineer is Daniela Witten. Perhaps not a coincidence that she is also the daughter of a top physicist–Edward Witten.

    Do you mean this Daniela Witten?

    https://faculty.washington.edu/dwitten/

    That says she is an associate professor of Statistics and BioStatistics so she doesn’t sound like an engineer, but she should probably be familiar with the differences between males and females.

    It also seems that she married endogamously.

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    Yes. I'm not sure whether it would be most accurate to call her an engineer, mathematician, or statistician (or something else). Her work is in machine learning which I tend to lump into engineering--depends on the practical/theoretical balance among other things. In any case, the point I was trying to make is that she is an example of someone who I think clearly has the technical skill to succeed.

    From her profile at https://www.biostat.washington.edu/news-events/faculty-profile-daniela-witten
    it is probably most accurate to call her a statistician.

    I probably should have mentioned that her mother is a physicist as well.
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  67. @AmericaBeautiful
    Can someone who still uses twitter send this to her?:

    "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.' Matthew 7:5.

    There’s a good chance that she rejects the New Testament. Just sayin!

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  68. @EdwardM
    This is a big problem with people in protected categories like her, Marissa Mayer, Elizabeth Holmes, and Barack Obama. They go through their whole lives with everyone telling them how great they are. No one will say no to them. They end up surrounded by sycophants in a vicious cycle.

    You almost feel sorry for them because it must be hard to escape the bubble of affirmation in which they live. The solipsistic lack of self-reflection (in which people other than white males are deficient to begin with) must rate as one of the principal problems in our societal divide between the elites and nobodies.

    The solipsistic lack of self-reflection

    I see: Self-reflection is the gold standard.

    (Problem with self-reflection, as far as I have yet been able to understand it: It’s very shy pray (for example: It’s impossible to force it onto sombebody. At the very moment you try to do this, you’re very likely to destroy it’s powers alltogether).

    Second thought – – at first look something else completely:

    Religion once was the connection between those being able to practise the high art of self-reflection – and the others. What I want to say: Religion a) accepted, that not everybody leans towards (or is inclined to) self-reflection, but presented a common ground for both groups nonetheless.

    Now we’re heading towards eradicating religion without knowing, what would provide the cmomon ground then. And this might turn out to be quite a risky business.

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  69. @Clyde
    This UK Mail photo shows how huge she is http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/07/08/42FF29B100000578-4766928-image-a-25_1502091794778.jpg

    The caption is: Hillary was spotted out and about in New York in the days before the ceremony, as she strolled around Madison Avenue for a shopping trip with a couple of her friends....... (the ceremony was the son and daughter of two hedge fund honchos getting married)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4766928/Clintons-attend-hedge-fund-billionaires-daughter-s-wedding.html#ixzz4pMasziY9

    It would’ve been Hail to the Caftan instead of Hail to the Chief!

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  70. Sergie doesn’t have real good taste in women.

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  71. By the way, what happened to the option of editing comments?

    I’m gonna submit the director’s cut of my last one and cross my stubby little fingers. Here goes:

    start > I’m not convinced that this woman has as much intelligence as advertised. I think what happened in her case is that the geeks (smart men) with whom she was surrounded since birth misinvested their love or desire for her into the project of turning her into “one of the guys” instead of a good wife and mother. That explains her life frictions and career path. They wanted her to be a brilliant businessperson or computer scientist, and she ambitiously played along. They covered for her and even carried her for years. And although she did manage to reproduce, what was end product of their “Susan project”? A not-very-helpful totalitarian whose thinking is on the level of “Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.” In other words, they didn’t get off Square One. Nature will out. < end

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  72. @Steve from Detroit
    Great, great point. When I talk about this subject with my friends, I'm going to steal this without attribution...

    I’m going to steal this without attribution…

    You bastard! ;)

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  73. Jack Cade says:

    Well, this certainly explains why (((Suzie))) handed over the censor hand to the ADL.
    Isn’t it getting WAAAY past time to regulate these behemoths as monopolies/common carriers? I don’t like the idea of getting my electricity cut off due to wrongthink

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  74. @J.C.
    I think the most revealing part of this nepocrat's progressive blabber is the part where she writes:

    "What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …"

    There she displays – in pure and unadulterated language – her nepocratic billionaire's progressive ideology:

    (1) Complete denial of the possibility that there are biological differences between various human groups – which in turn could impact differently their abilities, behavior and performance; i.e.: the degree that some demographic groups might be over or under represented in particular fields, sports, activities and professions.

    (2) Dogmatic, absolutist, tyranical swift action – full medieval inquisition – against any and all dissident perpetrating the thought-crime of unbiased, objective and rational scientific thinking.

    These tyrannical nepocrats own Wall Street, Hollywood, the Ivy League, the Federal, State and local government's levers of power, Silicon Valley, and the news media.

    We have a long journey ahead trying to escape the digital panopticon prison they have built for us.

    “What if the memo said that biological differences amongst Black, Hispanic, or LGBTQ employees explained their underrepresentation in tech and leadership roles? Would some people still be discussing the merit of the memo’s arguments or would there be a universal call for swift action against its author? …” That’s wgat the “or” means.

    There she displays – in pure and unadulterated language – her nepocratic billionaire’s progressive ideology:

    (1) Complete denial of the possibility that there are biological differences between various human groups

    However, what the dumbass actually wrote referred to the differences within those groups, not between or among them. That’s what the “or” means.

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  75. res says:
    @Peripatetic commenter

    Another good example of a top notch female engineer is Daniela Witten. Perhaps not a coincidence that she is also the daughter of a top physicist–Edward Witten.
     
    Do you mean this Daniela Witten?

    https://faculty.washington.edu/dwitten/

    That says she is an associate professor of Statistics and BioStatistics so she doesn't sound like an engineer, but she should probably be familiar with the differences between males and females.

    It also seems that she married endogamously.

    Yes. I’m not sure whether it would be most accurate to call her an engineer, mathematician, or statistician (or something else). Her work is in machine learning which I tend to lump into engineering–depends on the practical/theoretical balance among other things. In any case, the point I was trying to make is that she is an example of someone who I think clearly has the technical skill to succeed.

    From her profile at https://www.biostat.washington.edu/news-events/faculty-profile-daniela-witten
    it is probably most accurate to call her a statistician.

    I probably should have mentioned that her mother is a physicist as well.

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  76. Major spoiler for the movie _Hot Tub Time Machine_

    I was just thinking a day or two ago how plausible the ending of the movie was. It wouldn’t take knowing a lot about tech, just some judicious stock picking, tracking down the google guys in college and saying, “what if you used the number of links?” This proves it.

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  77. @Cloudbuster
    As I say under an earlier post:

    The funny and ironic thing about her article is that she is the poster child for a bright, driven woman who chose not to go into STEM. Her father is a physicist, she’s privileged, she had boundless opportunity — studied history and literature at Harvard. Her master’s degrees are in business and economics. Her career has been completely business, marketing and advertising roles. She’s not a coder, not an engineer. It’s reasonable to think she could have suceeded as a coder, but it wasn’t what she wanted.

    She’s a walking example of Damore’s thesis.

    I just used up my agree button. I nevertheless do agree. It’s a very good point which I will also steal without attribution.

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