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  1. He must have left the grill plugged in

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @JimB
  2. snorlax says:

    Insurance fraud?

    Luckily it looks from the article like the only car in the collection that was truly a priceless “classic” was the F40, of which a few hundred remain.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @Anon
  3. J.Ross says: • Website

    Maybe it is third worlders, but not arson. We South Africa now. We should expect to see a degrading of infrastructure and safety in general.

  4. J.Ross says: • Website

    West Yorkshire contains many towns where the police allowed migrant grooming gangs to systematically enslave and rape tens of thousands of indigenous girls over 30 years.

  5. • Replies: @jon
  6. I didn’t get to edit that soon enough.

    That tweet by Foreman is touching, because George Foreman’s daughter, Freeda, a women’s league professional boxer, committed suicide a few weeks ago.

  7. bored identity strongly believes that besides Jack D’s Pierre, and Every.Single.Time. Lightning, there is only one other fake force majeure with established cui bono to commit such a heinously serial carbeque :

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  8. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:

    Looking at the photo of his wife art the link … Is she trans?

  9. I think some Muslim workers at his garage set it on fire.

  10. It could just be a bad internet connection, but is it just me that has some problems with the web? Messing with Steve, or some of you other bigger fish, might cause some problems for providers. I’m a small fish, so maybe all bets are off. But I’m beginning to get suspicious. Probably nothing, but it’s kind of weird.

  11. Which one of the little Georges left the grill unsupervised?

  12. Lurker says:

    OK, it’s hardly a unique collection but it’s not all bling either.

    More recent news says that some cars were damaged rather than destroyed.

  13. JimB says:
    @(((They))) Live

    Foreman must have offended Allah by grilling pork.

  14. Anon[343] • Disclaimer says:

    Nice garage! Guys, don’t leave charging batteries unattended.

  15. George Foreman is a big Trump fan and supporter, fwiw.

  16. My heart goes out to all of those classic cars who gave their lives this night. May these heroic motor vehicles rest in peace. So sorry for your loss Mr. Foreman.

  17. @PiltdownMan

    Sad. I wonder if the sturm und drang of the daughter’s alternative lifestyle took its toll.
    Do gays have a lot of suicides?

  18. Anon[343] • Disclaimer says:

    Insurance fraud?

    George Foreman isn’t jewish.

    • Replies: @Anon
  19. OT

    Almost total population replacement happened twice in Britain in the last 6,000 years.

    “He cautioned against simplistic explanations invoking conflict, and said the shifts ultimately came down to “economic” factors, about which lifestyles were best suited to exploit the landscape.”

  20. johnd says: • Website

    well you know, its like..

  21. BB753 says:

    Being Black and all that it entails, could Foreman be broke?

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  22. Some good news–by the leaded gasoline theory, crime by Hondurans is at a peak, and either is declining or should start declining within 5-10 years

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  23. destroys at least 40 of his classic cars

    How many of them were named “George”? Or, rather, “Georgia”?

    Speaking of which, Georgette from the Mary Tyler Moore Show has passed on. She was a Christian Scientist, so we don’t know what killed her yet. Do they do autopsies? She was active on stage until recently.

  24. Bad things happen in threes; what’s next?!?!

  25. Polynikes says:

    That’s sad. George really turned his life around in a way that is commendable.

    He’s probably one of the few of boxers who can sustain such a financial blow.

  26. Anonymous[158] • Disclaimer says:

    So apparently a golf cart caused it? Makes sense

    • Replies: @Don't Look at Me
  27. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    This man from Wisconsin was the real winner on Sunday:

    Made 1.19 mm

    Tiger purse was just over 2mm less cadddy 200K

  28. jon says:

    Damn, he writes like a 3rd grader, or an ESL student. CTE is real.

  29. Why do all of these celebrities that store a lot of classic cars eventually lose them to fire? Have they not heard of sprinkler systems?

    • Replies: @JimB
    , @J.Ross
    , @Anonymous
  30. Fire destroyed some of Reggie Jackson’s cars a while back.

    Watch Reggie pull the bat through his planted front leg:

  31. Jilla says:

    Off topic but another “hate hoax”, “coalition of the fringes” story

    Wsj tells the real story

    Students at New York’s Barnard College and Columbia University play-acted last week as residents of Ferguson, Mo., chanting about police racism and brutality. I hope they had fun: They got six Barnard security officers, who did nothing wrong, placed on administrative leave pending investigation.

    Columbia senior Alexander McNab, who is black, entered Barnard late Thursday night, according to a report in the Columbia Daily Spectator. Barnard is a women’s college affiliated with Columbia, whose students are required to show ID to enter the closed campus after 11 p.m. Mr. McNab refused. He strode past security and ignored them on the winding path to the university’s crowded Milstein Center, where five officers cornered him as other students recorded soon-to-be-viral videos. At first, the videos showed, officers held Mr. McNab by the arms. After he protested loudly, two of them lightly pinned him to a cafe counter. He screamed: “Take your hands off me!” The officers released Mr. McNab after 20 seconds, at which point he finally showed his student ID. An officer verified it, and the confrontation ended.

    The officers were white and the student was black—and that was enough to cue the Ferguson script. On Friday the Barnard student-government executive board issued a statement: “This incident reflects systemic racism and police brutality against Black people throughout our nation.” Protesters took to campus to chant: “No justice, no peace / F— these racist police!”

    This isn’t radical chic; it’s radical kitsch—“vicarious experience and faked sensations,” as the critic Clement Greenberg put it. In reality, no police were involved, only campus security; there was no injustice; and there will be no breach of the peace—already students are back studying for finals. This isn’t “Hands up, don’t shoot” or “I can’t breathe,” but “I can’t enter a women’s college at midnight while refusing to show ID,” an odd complaint in the #MeToo era.

    After the confrontation, Mr. McNab told a security officer: “I didn’t know I’m supposed to show my ID.” But he later admitted to the Columbia Daily Spectator that he knew the rule, in place since 2013, and chose not to follow it because it isn’t often enforced for white students—a claim other Columbia students dispute. When I tested it Saturday night, I was refused entry. Barnard’s communications chief, Rochelle Ritchie, tells me that after 11 p.m. “our public-safety officers are required to ask students to show their ID as they enter through the gates.”

    Yet the administration has thrown its security staff under the bus. After “listening sessions” with students on Friday, Barnard announced: “The public safety officers involved, as well as the public safety supervisor, have been placed on administrative leave” pending an investigation.

    The deans of Columbia’s undergraduate colleges, excluding Barnard, sent out a letter implying the incident was racial: “The more recent climate of racism and inflammatory rhetoric in both the country and the world at large continues to demonstrate a rising trend that targets marginalized populations. We are disturbed that such incidents continue to occur so close to home, and share in the hurt and pain many of you may be feeling.”

    Barnard President Sian Leah Beilock announced Sunday “a thorough review of how all public safety officers and supervisors are trained,” adding that “The confrontation puts into stark relief what some members of the Barnard College community, particularly people of color, have been saying about their relationship with the Office of Public Safety and the lack of trust they have in it to keep them safe.”

    This may be shrewd. The Barnard student executive board argued that “blame is necessary for community healing,” and a show of appeasement could quiet the story, even if nobody can explain what campus security should have done differently when Mr. McNab barged onto campus. Besides, memories are short. An investigation that drags on before quietly reinstating the security officers during the summer, after Mr. McNab graduates, could do the trick.

    Barnard and Columbia are playing it safe, not challenging campus leftists’ reading of events. Their story has no characters, reducing people to their plot function: The security officers can’t be doing an unglamorous job the best they can in a difficult situation, they’re a racist menace; Mr. McNab can’t be privileged to study at an Ivy League university (but perhaps having a bad day); he’s an oppressed victim, “assaulted” for walking while black.

    That way, for a day or two, the students could imagine they fought the power.

  32. George Foreman has a place in Texas.

    US Senator Teddy Cruz has a place in Texas; as does the other Texas US Senator, John Cornyn.

    George Foreman eats hamburgers and doesn’t cause much trouble, I hope all is well with him and his people.

    Pewitts are out in East Texas, they are most certainly the ones who came through the colony of Virginia in the 1600s.

    Teddy Cruz is a fanatic globalizer Canadian who pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and Teddy Cruz has also proposed some form of so-called “legalization” for illegal alien invaders.

    Legalization of Illegal Aliens Is AMNESTY for Illegal Aliens.

    John Cornyn pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and he has allowed Texas to fill up with illegal alien invaders.

    Both Teddy Cruz and John Cornyn are filthy rodent whores for the treasonous money-grubbing scum in the GOP Cheap Labor Faction.

    I hereby challenge mass legal immigration pushers Trump, Cruz and Cornyn to a debate on mass legal immigration and illegal immigration and American national identity.

  33. @Desiderius

    James Taylor is bald as Hell and Jared Taylor has a hairline that is decently and honorably far removed from where it once was.

    It’s Hu-Okay To Be Hu-White!

  34. Millennials all over America are bemoaning the lug weight of their student loans. They don’t have the money to pay back their loans, but a large percentage of those students did have the money to tour Europe after a lifetime of hard work in their deserving teens and twenties.

    Due to dual-high-earner parents who are concentrating the wealth in fewer households, far more Millennials than past youthful generations have taken status-symbol selfies in front of the poorly-maintained, poorly-guarded, Gothic masterpiece, meticulously crafted mostly by highly-skilled Frenchmen who weren’t so pampered, so “educated” or so well-traveled as the Millennial students who cannot afford to pay their student loans.

    Fifty-two percent of Americans aged 55 and over don’t have a dime saved for retirement. They are paid too little to cover the cost of rent in many cases—rent that has inflated by 72% over the last two decades. It soaks up most of their monthly pay. They didn’t have the money for European jaunts in their youth. Most of those without the above-firing excuse of children are subject to firing for even a tiny amount of absenteeism from work—five minutes—far less than it takes to travel overseas every couple of months, like many highly-paid top 20%ers casually do.

    After these well-traveled students get married and reproduce, about 20% of them maneuver themselves into two high-paying positions per household, retaining two household-supporting jobs with benefits per household despite a lot of family-friendly absenteeism—often for frivolous things like trips to Europe.

    Dual-earner parents do that while letting others raise their children for them for a pittance—for less than enough pay to afford the dignity of a modest apartment and mostly with no benefits.

    Though the highly-paid dual-earner parents are “the talent” and the only “skilled” workers available, they are so unneeded at work that they enjoy a ton of excused time off for a million kid-related reasons and for things like trips to Europe every few months. Crony parents hire and retain mostly fellow parents, taking turns taking off “for kids” (and vacations) in their discriminatory,“needs-the-job” crony-parent absenteeism gangs.


    They sure do post a lot of show-off travel photos on FB, in between the show-off baby pics that they post at work.

    They have all of the money for global travel, while wages have not gone up for the bottom 80% in America and in Europe in 40 years———not for the millions of underemployed, native-born citizens of America and Europe and not for the top-20%er’s preferred servants: the hordes of welfare-eligible, womb-productive legal & illegal immigrants who can afford to work for less due to their welfare-hoisted wages.

    Noncitizens are admitted by the boatloads into Western countries each year to work cheaply for the wealthy.

    Rent has gone up by 72% since 1995 for the bottom 80%.

    They have all of the money—the top 20%ers—and they love to take status-hoisting photos of themselves in front of prestigious, painstakingly-constructed French monuments and other great European artwork, yet the top 20% did not have the cash to make sure that Notre Dame cathedral even had modern sprinkler systems, much less proper security.

    And it needed the security, especially with the heightened social tensions caused by feeding the top 20%er’s insatiable need for cheap, welfare-aided servants from around the globe.

    These top-20%er elites: the technical set among them can design surveillance-capitalism devices to scrutinize every movement that shoppers make when buying a loaf of bread, making every shopping trip an Orwellian experience, but they cannot protect a one-of-a-kind architectural wonder that took 200 years to erect.

    But they sure do like to visit.

    And they sure do have the money and the time off in their high-paying jobs.

    They tell us all about how hard it is to have kids and how much of a financial burden it is, as they take one expensive global vacation after another.

    They’re always the ones with the extra cash and the time off to visit places like Notre Dame cathedral, those beleaguered dual-earner parents and their college-aged kids.

    Few of those “skilled” top 20%ers—“the talent”—have the patience, the work ethic or the meticulousness to build a complex, labyrinthian work of art, like the one built by the artisans of Medieval Paris—a group that would be called “un-educated” if not “un-skilled” in today’s trendy, arrogant, Twitter-verse job market.

    Most of those global travelers don’t really appreciate the artistic & historical monuments that form the backdrop for their selfies; expensive global travel is just a way to prove they are a fellow top 20%er to their peers.

    So far, one top 1%er has pledged a generous amount of money to build a replica of Notre Dame, which despite the generosity will just be a replica. As anyone who has ever produced a reproduction of an historical painting knows—and as any Chinese craftsman who has worked on an architectural replica knows—people always point out that it’s just a copy, regardless of how complex the copy is and how much work was involved.

    There’s a symmetry that it’s Frida the artist’s husband, from the Yves St. Laurent family, who pledged the money, but where are the other deep-pocketed global travelers in the top 1 — 20%?

    The dual-earner top 20%ers love to take selfies in front of Western culture’s greatest masterpieces, especially during work hours in their locked-in, six-figure, crony-parent jobs.

    Crony top 20%er dual-earner parents know they can still take all of their family-friendly European vacations, eating out in one extremely expensive restaurant after another, while having plenty of extra money left over for retirement accounts propped by the Federal Reserve Bank, an $800,000 mortgage, private schools for the kiddos and all of the monthly basics.

    In the rigged casino, the Fed protects their retirement stashes far more than top 20%er, above-firing, well-traveled, dual-earner parents protected the Notre Dame cathedral.

    They couldn’t afford to help maintain the cathedral.

    But no problem.

    Top 20%ers can always stand by the Seine to take their status-upping selfies, PhotoShopping in an image of the finest, poorly-maintained, poorly-protected cathedral on Earth that took hundreds of un-pampered, dedicated craftsmen hundreds of laborious years to create, with no paid family leave or other womb-privileged family-friendly vacations and no above-firing job security based on their personal-life choices.

    ‘The “skilled” shall inherit the Earth.’

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  35. @Desiderius


    Booze ‘n’ Coke /
    Pain in his heart
    The engine won’t start /
    In bad need of a choke…

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  36. @Reg Cæsar

    Georgette, eh?

    Hopefully her father’s name was not George.

    Much as I admire the incredible vocal style and ability of George Jones, I have always deemed it somewhat tacky and ‘billy that he and Tammy Wynette named their daughter Georgette

    Regardless, as long as we’re doing songs with “rain” in the title, here’s one by the incomparable Possum

  37. @Dieter Kief

    No, I was serious. I thought of that song yesterday. Used to listen to it a lot after my brother died.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  38. @Reg Cæsar

    TMTMS was a great source of entertainment for me, and Georgette, played by Georgia Engel, was a ditzy blonde. Corky Carrol played a similar foil on Murphy Brown, ditzy yet harmless.

    Ditzy blondes are no longer allowed to be harmless now that the War on Beckys has commenced. My world is a better place thanks to Negroes.

    • LOL: BB753
  39. @Desiderius

    I just saw how fragile Taylor is in this video – and how far away; he barley made it through this performance… – And I’ve read Barney Hoskyns Hotel California recently and the number/amount of drugs taken just puzzled me: Linda Ronstadt – friend of Taylor for a while, said she did not like cocaine at all and was not overly inclined to take it – and still had to undergo nose surgery…Plus – I am a little irritated about the connection of Foreman’s burnt down Ferraris and your personal loss. But this might be easier than it looked at first sight.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Yoopy
  40. @Dieter Kief

    I quoted the title of Steve’s post. My comment is about Notre Dame much more than Foreman, although classic cars are in fact a high point of Western Civilization as well.

    Ask Iowahawk.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    , @JimB
  41. AndrewR says:

    I don’t know what I would do with his wealth but it probably wouldn’t involve old cars.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  42. Anonymous[134] • Disclaimer says:

    When I saw the headline about the Al-Aqsa mosque I immediately assumed it was me-too arson to horn in on that sweet, sweet torched-bloody-shirt social media (i.e. Semitic lightning by proxy), which of course is contrary to Occam’s razor on causes of things in the Mid East being on fire

  43. @Desiderius

    I grew up near and at a race track (Hockenheim) and was quite deep into motor-racing in my teens. Which was the most dangerous part of my life, because I switched over to philosophy and photography and rock-journalism with fourteen/fifteen and the intersections of motor-racing and the rock-culture especially – as described in great detail by Hunter S. Thompson and P. J. O’Rourke, turned out to be tricky at times (and quite risky – in hindsight, at least). I was lucky. My father (who passed away this winter at 92) guided me through these existential rapids with hardly any force.

  44. EH says:

    Another terrible loss: the great author Gene Wolfe died on April 14th, 2019.

    From Wikipedia:


    His best-known and most highly regarded work is the multi-volume novel The Book of the New Sun. Set in a bleak, distant future influenced by Jack Vance’s Dying Earth series, the story details the life of Severian, a journeyman torturer, exiled from his guild for showing compassion to one of the condemned. The novel is composed of the volumes The Shadow of the Torturer (1980), The Claw of the Conciliator (1981), winner of the Nebula Award for Best Novel, The Sword of the Lictor (1982), and The Citadel of the Autarch (1983). A coda, The Urth of the New Sun (1987), wraps up some loose ends but is generally considered a separate work. Several of Wolfe’s essays about writing the Book of the New Sun series were published in The Castle of the Otter (1982; the title refers to a misprint of the fourth book’s title in Locus magazine).

    In 1984, Wolfe retired from his engineering position and was then able to devote more time to his writing. In the 1990s, Wolfe published two more works in the same universe as The Book of the New Sun. The first, The Book of the Long Sun, consists of the novels Nightside the Long Sun (1993), Lake of the Long Sun (1994), Caldé of the Long Sun (1994), and Exodus From the Long Sun (1996). These books follow the priest of a small parish as he becomes wrapped up in political intrigue and revolution in his city-state. Wolfe then wrote a sequel, The Book of the Short Sun, composed of On Blue’s Waters (1999), In Green’s Jungles (2000) and Return to the Whorl (2001), dealing with colonists who have arrived on the sister planets Blue and Green. The three Sun works (The Book of the New Sun, The Book of the Long Sun, and The Book of the Short Sun) are often referred to collectively as the “Solar Cycle.”


    Although he was not a best-selling author, Wolfe is highly regarded by critics and fellow writers. He was often considered to be not only one of the greatest science fiction authors, but the one of the best American writers regardless of genre. In 2003, award-winning science fiction author Michael Swanwick said: “Gene Wolfe is the greatest writer in the English language alive today. Let me repeat that: Gene Wolfe is the greatest writer in the English language alive today! I mean it. Shakespeare was a better stylist, Melville was more important to American letters, and Charles Dickens had a defter hand at creating characters. But among living writers, there is nobody who can even approach Gene Wolfe for brilliance of prose, clarity of thought, and depth in meaning.”

    Among others, writers Neil Gaiman and Patrick O’Leary have credited Wolfe for inspiration. O’Leary has said: “Forget ‘Speculative Fiction.’ Gene Wolfe is the best writer alive. Period. And as Wolfe once said, ‘All novels are fantasies. Some are more honest about it.’ No comparison. Nobody – I mean nobody – comes close to what this artist does.” O’Leary also wrote an extensive essay concerning the nature of Wolfe’s artistry, entitled “If Ever A Wiz There Was”, originally published in his collection Other Voices, Other Doors. Ursula K. Le Guin is frequently quoted on the jackets of Wolfe’s books as having said “Wolfe is our Melville.”

    Critic and science fiction writer Harlan Ellison, reviewing The Shadow of the Torturer, wrote: “Gene Wolfe is engaged in the holy chore of writing every other author under the table. He is no less than one of the finest, most original writers in the world today. His work is singular, hypnotizing, startlingly above comparison. The Shadow of the Torturer breaks new ground in American literature and, as the first novel of a tetralogy, casts a fierce light on what will certainly be a lodestone landmark, his most stunning work to date. It is often said, but never more surely than this time: This book is not to be missed at peril of one’s intellectual enrichment.”

  45. Perhaps someone is trying to send George a message. I recently watched a very bad movie where Alec Baldwin did this to Michael Jai White.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  46. @AndrewR

    I don’t know what I would do with his wealth but it probably wouldn’t involve old cars.

    Not that many, but a 1935 Bentley in British Racing Green,

    and a Porsche 911 from ca. 1982, in Stuttgart Bauhaus-White in Björn Waldegaards Rallye trim – with the big yellow Cebié headlights up front and the 3 liter 6 cylinder turbo-engine in the back. Plus a Steyr-Puch/Daimler SUV from about 1999. That would do. Ah – a Lotus Super Seven would be nice, in beaming corn yellow. And a Brabham-Cosworth F2 car from ca. 1970 from Bernie Eccelstones Winkelman Racing Team. see. I would not be over the top here, just keep things low profile – nice ‘n’ easy. Hehe.

  47. Yoopy says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Linda Ronstadt – friend of Taylor for a while, said she did not like cocaine at all and was not overly inclined to take it – and still had to undergo nose surgery…

    Let me help you out, here. Linda was lying in her early interviews regarding her drug use.

    When you have to go through TWO surgeries, under anesthesia, to restitch the interior of your nose together because it’s been fried open by doing mounds and mounds and mounds of cocaine, which almost inevitably gives you onset Parkinson’ disease, it means… you like cocaine… A LOT!

    Hope this solves the puzzle for you.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  48. @Anonymous

    So the cheapest vehicle in the garage destroyed all the expensive ones. It’s like a metaphor for life.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  49. @PiltdownMan

    Pilt, could care less about the cars. A father’s heart aches at the loss of a child. Sad for George.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
  50. JimB says:
    @Mike Zwick

    Why do all of these celebrities that store a lot of classic cars eventually lose them to fire?

    Because insurance pays more than a bankruptcy auction?

  51. JimB says:

    classic cars are in fact a high point of Western Civilization as well.

    I’m surprised nobody has set up a company on cheap land somewhere to reissue the most popular classic cars. I’d buy one for the price of a new Honda SUV.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  52. @Yoopy

    Oh, thanks. That’s harsh. I’d hesitate to link her Parkinson disease with her Cocaine consumption though.

    Barney Hoskyns is quite experienced as far as drug consumption goes, and he gave me the impression in his Hotel California book, he would have believed her. Maybe that’s just his shtick. Or maybe this was a very weird scene altogether. I met a few the people Hoskyns writes about personally because I happened to be working for Music Magazines in Switzerland and Germany for a while. And two of these spoke in a quite reasonable way, when I had the chance, to talk to them: Randy Newman and Leonard Cohen. Cohen was incredibly vulnerable, but clear minded nonetheless. Curious even. Randy Newman surprised me with his detailed knowledge about the German Revolutionaries from 1848, when we – by chance really, – hit this subject in conversation.

    • Replies: @Yoopy
    , @Anonymous
  53. @the one they call Desanex

    Those retardates at “The Marathon Clothing” managed to get the n right on the “Slauson” shirt, but blew it on the “Crenshaw”.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  54. Yoopy says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Oh, thanks. That’s harsh. I’d hesitate to link her Parkinson disease with her Cocaine consumption though


    Some wouldn’t hesitate, since heavy cocaine use gives you brain damage, and heart damage. You may seem to be able to muscle through it in your twenties and thirties, but by the time you arrive at your seventies, the crap you pulled in your twenties knocks on your door for payment due.

    Some earlier than others. Michael J Fox used to explain his doing Back to the Future and Family Ties at the same time by “I just didn’t sleep.” Think about how he delivered his high take of a high energy scene in BTF at 2am when he hadn’t slept in 28 hours. Aaaaand Parkinson’s!

    Robin Williams thought of cocaine as a food group all during Mork & Mindy. Massive brain damage and early major heart disease. Get ready for a lot of what’s left of your boomer entertainers to start having more heart and brain problems. Hi, Joni Mitchell! Meet Forgetful Steely Dan!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  55. J.Ross says: • Website

    Don’t you need to have infrastructure to be affected by lead?

  56. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Mike Zwick

    A car is essentially a construction of highly flammable materials, and a classic car is one that cannot tolerate any rough handling. How long does it take a sprinkler to extinguish a fire? Probably longer than it takes to at least wreck a paint job. Also, those systems aren’t fresh municipal water, they’re charged and sealed at installation. So that’s water that has been still and out of sunlight for years.

  57. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anthony Wayne

    Who on earth could hate George Foreman?

  58. Anon[210] • Disclaimer says:

    That’s how most people write on Twitter and in their text messages.

  59. J.Ross says: • Website

    It’s a step up from “Bodymore, Murderland”: Baltimore is the “most robbed” city in America

    Thousands of people are fleeing the city each year as total population plummets to 100-year lows. There are about 46,000 vacant rowhomes scattered throughout the area, or roughly 15% of the housing stock is dormant. On a per capita basis, the city has the highest rate of homicides per 100,000 in the country.


    There is new evidence that verifies our coverage on Baltimore, and we must say – the report doesn’t give hope that a turn around in the city is happening anytime soon.

    New evidence from ADT security study that examined FBI statistics shows the town is now the “most robbed” city in America.

    Baltimore had the most significant number of robberies per capita – 95.87 for every 10,000 people.

    ADT’s analytic analysts “looked at the FBI’s annual crime data [for 2017] for robbery rates to discover which city in each state experienced the most robberies.”

    While robberies worsened in Baltimore, they declined nationwide, dropping by 28% between 2008 and 2017.

    Some of the safest streets in America are in Boise, Idaho where 2.26 people are robbed per 10,000 people.

  60. Anon[210] • Disclaimer says:

    but is he Eye-talian?

  61. Travis says:

    Paris’ second largest church, Saint-Sulpice, burst into flames in March, the fire damaging doors and stained glass windows on the building’s exterior. Police have concluded that the fire was the result of arson and are now looking for possible suspects. The restoration of the church from the damage caused by the fire will reportedly cost several hundred million euros.

  62. J.Ross says: • Website

    Nobody works harder at losing than a Republicuck. Has anyone served Hillary Clinton more slavishly than Donald Trump?

    By now, the whole world knows that Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange has been arrested. This puts quite a few people in an awkward position, since they had openly championed the Wikileaks dumps of material from the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016. One such person seems to be Fox News personality Sean Hannity.

    As of Monday, it appears Hannity has deleted everything regarding Julian Assange from his Twitter feed. Hannity used to be quite the Assange fan, even telling the Wikileaks founder that he would make a good guest host for Hannity’s radio show. Hannity also promoted Assange’s credibility, saying that “nothing he has published has ever been false.”

    This makes the Assange cleansing of Hannity’s feed seem most suspicious, considering the timing. However, it seems that Twitter personality Richard Feren was too quick for Hannity’s team, and has preserved the pro-Assange tweets for the world to see.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  63. Svigor says:

    I’ll just leave this here:

    • Replies: @Lot
  64. Lot says:

    Yglesias on Bernie’s “chess sacrifice” play:

    Seems right to me. First poll is out showing him ahead of Biden nationally.

    I still think Biden is the most likely winner, but it’s been a good past month for Bernie, massive fundraising lead, no red flags in his tax returns, better polling, and crushing his Fox News townhall.

    Biden’s two big strengths remain: polls best against Trump, and huge lead with black voters.

    Kamala grew up with an Indian mother in Toronto, Booker is so pale he has blue eyes. Neither have African American spouses or children. I don’t think you can assume Biden will lose his black voter lead to them.

  65. @Yoopy

    MJF seemed totally burnt out in Back to the Future 2.

    • Replies: @Yoopy

    When my sister called me a few months ago to say, a little breathlessly, that she had gotten back her results from 23andMe, I snapped at her, “I don’t want to know!” She kept trying to share, but I kept shutting her down, before saying I had to go and hanging up. Afterward I felt a little shaky, as if I’d narrowly escaped disaster.

    I’ve never been interested in DNA tests. I have nothing against people discovering they’re 18 percent German or 79 percent Irish, but I think the tests are a fad that distracts us from the harsh realities of race and identity in America. They encourage us to pretend that in terms of shaping who we really are, individual narratives matter more than the narrative of the country as a whole. There is no test for separation and tribalism, and yet they are baked into our cultural DNA.

  67. Lot says:

    Notre Dame was named for a Jewish woman, can’t get any less antisemitic than that.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  68. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Let me help you out, here. Linda was lying in her early interviews regarding her drug use.

    When you have to go through TWO surgeries, under anesthesia, to restitch the interior of your nose together because it’s been fried open by doing mounds and mounds and mounds of cocaine, which almost inevitably gives you onset Parkinson’ disease, it means… you like cocaine… A LOT!

    Hope this solves the puzzle for you.

    Linda Ronstadt was, vocally, the best female pop-rock singer in her musical age cohort.
    (I say “musical age cohort” because that usually but not always corresponds with genealogical age.
    Mick Jagger and Debbie Harry are <2 years apart in chronological age but their peak musical eras were two musical generations apart).

    Maybe the best of either sex, even.

    I never liked her politics and I never thought she was all that sexually attractive-I go for the hourglass Marilyn Monroe type, and none of the popular rock songstresses really met that description, least of all flatbottomed Linda-but damn, she could sing.

    Dolly Parton is a fairly good singer, but when she was in the "Trio" with Linda and Emmylou Harris she was bluntly the odd woman out-the other two were clearly world class and Dolly, though an excellent songwriter, and business genius the equal of Madonna or Mick Jagger, merely decent.

    It's sad what happened to Linda. I liked Joan Baez a lot too though again her politics and mine were not the same. However, I never could much abide Judy Collins.

    • Replies: @Yoopy
  69. J.Ross says: • Website

    I’m going crazy trying to determine the date of this: the college graduate author didn’t think it was important to mention when it was posted. Apologies if you’ve seen it.
    One Harvard IYI feels that we’re just not doing enough as a society to be the Soviet Union:

    Harvard University psychiatrist Alvin Poussaint thinks that’s a mistake.

    ‘Extreme racism is treatable, and sometimes even lesser forms of racism are treatable because they have psychodynamics to them,” he told Nightline. “They don’t exist as a social problem, they … exist as psychological problems inside the individual.’

    Poussaint, who is black, believes that racism – like other human behaviors – exists on a continuum, and that racism’s extreme forms, in which a person has racist delusions that can lead to violence, should be considered a serious mental illness and be listed in the DSM.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  70. @Endgame Napoleon

    My wife and I are in the top 20% of household incomes, but trust me, we don’t take “trips to Europe every few months.” Especially not after paying LA housing cost and California taxes.

    You may be thinking of the top 2% of household incomes.

    But your points are well taken.

  71. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    You can build most any of several postwar cars pretty much up out of new parts, if so inclined, but you want to find some part of an old one so it can be registered as an old car. There is a fine art to this.

    Building complete new old cars and selling them turnkey is about impossible because old designs could never meet the unbelievably complicated gantlet of “safety” and emissions legislation. FCA Chrysler probably came as close as one could with the new Challenger and the Prowler pseudo-street rod.

    DIY efforts can be registered as “street rods” or “replicas” in many US States, regulations vary, and should be researched. Dune buggys, Locost DIY Lotus 7 replicas, et al come under this. Keep in mind what is licensed and taggable in Alabama may not be in California or New Jersey, two notoriously tough states.

    In Argentina there is a business that builds exact duplicates, down to the castings and machining of each part, of such classics as the Bugatti 35. Prices are in six figures, the real ones in seven. All parts interchange, pretty much. Getting them titled for road use in the US takes a little fudging but has been done.

    Most postwar American cars are available readily in restorable core form and can be restored, rodded, or restomodded as desired for less than a true factory replica would cost anyway. A huge selection of vintage turnkey cars can be had for between ten and fifty thousand dollars. You just have to be able to pay cash, have another daily driver so you can get classic car insurance, and be either able to DIY all maintenence or find places that will, which in suburban and urban areas can be a challenge. Most general purpose shops won’t do any diagnostic or engine work on anything that doesn’t have a socket for a scan tool.

    The big money now is with companies like California based ICON 4×4, which takes old cars and puts their shells on new frames with late model electronic drivelines, for ridiculous prices. Hollywood and Silicon Valley pays those prices. But their creations are legal only because they are registered as old cars. If the supply of old cars runs out, they’re done.

    The number of people who really want an old car is much lower than the ones who in romantic moments think they do. Modern cars are so maintenance free and reliable drivers have become far too lazy to maintain an old one the way it needs to be maintained, even if you do upgrade it to electronic ignition, alternators, improved fuel filters, better brakes, et al. And if you have to pay 2019 shop rates, it can be damn expensive to keep Grandpa’s Packard on the road.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    , @JimB
    , @Reg Cæsar
  72. J.Ross says: • Website
    @the one they call Desanex

    Slauson? Crershaw? Prolabski? Ghentilo?
    Is this like a Gen X Hipster irony joke about fake white people names?

  73. @J.Ross

    There was high level R involvement in the overnight discrediting of Assange/Wikileaks to protect HRC/prevent a Bernie Presidency. McCain at least. Deep State Rs already hated Wikileaks.

    This does the best job of explaining all that came after.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  74. @jon

    Damn, he writes like a 3rd grader, or an ESL student. CTE is real.

    Good grief jon. Think about how many blows to the head he has suffered. For all we know, had he not been a boxer, he could have outmatched Michael Eric Dyson for intellectual contributions to humanity.

    Oh wait, notwithstanding his brain trauma, his George Foreman grill he did just that!

  75. @BB753

    Foreman seems to be one of the exceptions to the phenomenon of star black athletes who go broke after they retire. He appears to be worth a few hundred million dollars.

    • Replies: @BB753
  76. MBlanc46 says:

    Modern cars are maintenance free? Maybe in some other universe.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @JimB
  77. J.Ross says: • Website

    The point is Trump going along with it. McCain’s not in a position to influence anything.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  78. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    As compared to 1930s through 1970s cars, they are. Gas, tires and oil changes are all you need to go between 50 and 100 thousand miles in a lot of modern cars. Brakes as needed. No tune ups, plugs at 60 to 100k now. “Lifetime” or 100k coolant change intervals. Automatic transmission fluid doesn’t even have a filler or dipstick on many cars-on some Fords you have a standpipe with a center plug in the trans and trans fills have to be done by injecting fluid under pressure through the center bolt! Serp belt lasts 50k. Change it and the tensioner at the same time.

    Look at recommended service intervals on a 1960s car, for instance:

    Try to find a suburban or urban auto shop where they even HAVE a timing light or dwell meter!
    Much less a way to deal with brushes and commutators on generators. Or a king pin reamer. Or who can deal with tube type tires.

  79. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Zwick

    Insurors of classic cars would be insisting on a relatively high deductible if torching car collections was very common. Another would be to limit insurance value to “actual cash value” -in other words, what a dealer in classic cars would pay spot cash for the thing. Unfortunately, like most collectibles, classic cars are hard to valuate.

    A 100 point concours restoration of many cars is worth literally twice or more what a 90 point clean driver would be. Small variations in factory build can mean big bucks if documented especially on muscle cars-the car is a Hemi Cuda and has factory air, but was it factory factory air or factory air added perfectly in restoration? Are the numbers on the AC compressor right? On CCCA full classics provenance is everything, as with race cars.

  80. @J.Ross

    So living amongst Blacks aka “operant conditioning” means Blacks are actually driving us crazy?


  81. @Buzz Mohawk

    Question for grammarians or pedants: Can my sentence in the previous comment, “the link here is flying buttresses” (which is itself a link to an interesting article about the subject) be considered to have correct subject-verb agreement? I chose to write it that way, and would speak it that way, because to me “flying buttresses” is a singular subject in this case. Would it be better to refer to the subject as “the flying buttress”? (And, should the question mark in the previous sentence go inside the quotation marks, even though the subject is not a question?) LOL

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  82. Pretty sure “link” is the subject, although with “to be” you get into weird situations. What you have feels right.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  83. JimB says:

    Modern cars are maintenance free? Maybe in some other universe.

    Agreed. My new BMW needed warranty electronics repair two weeks after I drove it off the lot.

  84. JimB says:

    Thank you for your informative reply. I’m thinking about getting a late 60’s Chevy Nova.

  85. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I accept it and I’m sure Steven Pinker (author of Words and Rules, which takes a very accelerationist view toward grammar) would, mainly because, while it is possible to speak of a single flying buttress, few do. You almost always hear the plural.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Desiderius
  86. Yoopy says:
    @Steve Sailer

    MJF seemed totally burnt out in Back to the Future 2.

    So did the script. It turned dark and shitty. Biff transformed from a dumb bully into a qualified psychopath. Like a “tales from the crypt” style of mean nutcase. The light-heartedness of the original film was gone.

    I guess it was a couple of years since the original. Michael may be small (5’4″), but that couldn’t keep him looking younger than he was forever. See Mickey Rooney.

    Only good thing about his contracting Parkinson’s, it serves as an effective twitter storm deflector shield. He won’t be forced to answer to this:

  87. Yoopy says:

    It’s sad what happened to Linda. I liked Joan Baez a lot too though again her politics and mine were not the same. However, I never could much abide Judy Collins.

    Agreed. Loved all the girls. Judy was okay in controlled doses. Loved Rickie Lee Jones also. Fortunately, I could separate their artistic merit from their filthy hippy chick politics. They were all pretty good kids who meant well, tho.

  88. @J.Ross

    I’m probably the only one who cares, but it’s about this stupid “Crenshaw” logo in which the n looks too much like an r.

    It should look more like this (generated at

  89. Don’t forget about Mr. T!

  90. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Past pouring.

    Believe in ’18 in France, 1000 churches torched and vandalized.

    More in other countries of Europe.

    In America,

    the aggression is mostly done by the various media and academia and pundits.

    There is an aggressive war being waged

    against Christianity, Islam.

    Little defense is offered.

    Notre Dame most likely a professional burn.

    Done by similar thugs who attacked Mosque of Samarra and WTC.

  91. Keypusher says:

    You might want to look into his bio — basically the same childhood as mike Tyson. I’m surprised he can spell that well.

  92. @J.Ross

    If Trump tried to exercise one-hundredth of his putative authority on the matter he’d be impeached in a heartbeat. That’s what I’m saying – only broad-based (i.e. D and R) participation makes everyone’s subsequent behavior sensible. Russia wanted Bernie and took steps to make that happen, the Deep State did what it was created to do and thwarted that effort. Even things like Seth Rich make way more sense as a spy v. spy op than as a Clinton thing. The DNC can’t call off the local cops. The “intelligence community” can.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @J.Ross
  93. @J.Ross

    Speaking of Pinker, any advice for Steve in dealing with his Pinkerite stalker on Twitter?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  94. @Desiderius

    The deal was R’s help HRC, Ds help burn Wikileaks for good.

  95. J.Ross says: • Website

    I didn’t know about that but, y’know, you can’t be bothered by something stuck in moderation.

  96. J.Ross says: • Website

    >Russia wanted Bernie and took steps to make that happen
    They need to punitively tax those banana peels. I see that “Russia” still means “millions and millions of American voters.”

  97. @Anonymous

    There’s a 1950s Simca Aronde rusting in a driveway around here. I don’t know what it would cost to put it back on the road, but it might make nice “yard art”, or a frontpiece for an informal French restaurant.

    Imagine this with a quarter- or half-century of neglect:

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