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If this homoerotic Bernie Sanders comic book didn’t swing the 2016 election, I don’t know what would.

My head totally checked out of the Establishment’s conspiracy theorizing about Russia secretly controlling the world through Facebook memes or whatever it is about long ago, so I have no idea. But apparently, the Mueller Report is now done, although it’s secret.

USA Today reports:

But what that investigation found – or didn’t – remains to be seen.

Mueller did not recommend any additional indictments, according to a Justice Department official who is not authorized to speak publicly.

 
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  1. Hillary’s missing e-mails. Not.

  2. It will be possible, by reading between the lines, to determine that:

    1. President Trump is a white supremacist, and

    2. President Trump is Putin’s Puppet.

  3. IHTG says:

    Something something extremely careless.

  4. Crank says:

    Im guessing nothing of substance will be in it, at least as to Trump and collusion, but Mueller’s team will probably include enough caveats and disclaimers, and other vague innuendo, so that true believers can read into it whatever they want.

    There may also be some discussion about some lame Russian trolling efforts on the Internet to keep people foaming at the mouth.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  5. guest says:

    Full exposure of the insidious infiltration of Our Democracy by the nefarious foreign state of Isr…err, I mean Mexi…um, Chin…Russia. Yeah, Russia. That’s the one.

  6. Rich says:

    The point of Mueller was to prevent an investigation of Hilary and her cronies. It worked. Shame Trump let Bannon go and didn’t play the game properly. As bad as the dems are, he should still win in 2020.

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat, fnn
    • Replies: @Hail
  7. Beckow says:

    The key accusation is that a part-time troll somewhere in St Petersburg wrote some nasty stuff about Hillary on Facebook. That’s unacceptable, since social media has never been used to express opinions about other countries and their politicians – everyone on Facebook scrupulously adheres to my country-my opinion standard. And, of course, Trump.

    Insults like that can’t stand. What if they diss Kamal Harris in 2020? A woman of color? This is a casus belli by any standard. And March is the best month to have a quick, victorious war. Well, maybe just a quick war…

    • Agree: Hail
  8. J.Ross says: • Website

    The Mueller investigation was never an investigation, it was a bitter revenge attempt for Her Turn, a way of criminalizing being seen in public with Iste Vir, and sedition. It was the Stephen Fry pooh-pooh speech from Blackadder Goes Forth (“there’s just something about this Trump guy. No, y’know, evidence, but something”). This morning on the station without irony, NPR, Adam Schiff was described in total seriousness finding time in his busy schedule to look into Russian involvement — in Brexit.
    There is nothing that could satisfy these brainless grifters. Had Mueller found anything it would be reported as widely and breathlessly as the various draconian sentencings of Trump campaign staff. Mueller clearly found nothing, but with dishonest classification, speechmaking, vaudevillian outdrawing and careful eyebrow-raising, that nothing will last forever.

  9. If Mueller fails the last true believers, I don’t know what they’ll do. Back in the 20th century, the guys who believed in the System were like Michael Douglas’ character in Falling Down but before his meltdown. Now the greatest believers in the System are like the flakey and toxic wife of Robert Duvall’s character. If that film were made now, she’d have MSNBC on in the background when she phoned him at work.

    I wonder how many sane people really still think the Mueller investigation is an example of the system working? How many people, as of this moment, are saying “sure it’s not perfect but the system works!“? How many of these very same people will be saying that a week from now? I guess I’m wondering how many true believers in managerialism are left now days?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  10. A 1988 McDonalds menu, the exact whereabouts of Jimmy Hoffa and the KFC recipe.

    • Replies: @captflee
    , @Harry Baldwin
  11. Nathan says:

    Dropped on a Friday, no juicy leaks to the media, they’ve got nothing.

    Now, obviously they’ve had nothing all along- the only real crimes we know of are failure to register under FARA, and the far greater crimes of organizing an intelligence operation against a presidential candidate and then a sitting President. The fact that this is wrapping up when it is (in March, out of the news cycle, and much, much too soon to factor into the 2020 race) prove that they couldn’t even twist what they do have into something that could make Trump look bad. In fact, it Tends to indicate that it may be the other side that’s in danger.

    • Agree: Cortes, TTSSYF
  12. Thirdtwin says:

    Nothing about Concord Management will be in the report.

  13. @Cagey Beast

    A healthy majority of those who matter, as long as their stock portfolio holds up.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  14. Mueller has accomplished his task of making sure Trump governed as a conventional R, did nothing to stop conventional Rs from business as usual, and completely dropped any criticism of conventional Republicanism or association with those who’ve engaged in such criticism.

    Hiring all D goons for his staff showed that he never cared what rank-and-file Rs thought of the investigation, not to mention Trump voters. It was a farce from the start, but the more farcical the more it showed Trump how much power he and those behind him had to burn.

    So he knuckled under.

    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @Marty
    , @istevefan
  15. captflee says:
    @Bruce County

    LOL

    The wife says that you are a very droll fellow.

  16. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:

    A nothing burger.

  17. theMann says:

    1. Self-justification.
    2.Gibberish.
    3.Lies.

  18. Corvinus says:

    “My head totally checked out of the Establishment’s conspiracy theorizing about Russia secretly controlling the world through Facebook memes or whatever it is about long ago, so I have no idea.”

    Of course you have an idea, Mr. Sailer, as you are allegedly the NOTICER of your generation. Rather, you choose to be obtuse…and cagey!

    Here is the fact of the matter. Mueller is part of the criminal investigation, his work coincides and intersects with the Congressional AND counterintelligence investigations, which are ongoing. So the entire investigation is a three-pronged effort. The only “finality” is that Mueller himself will not issue new indictments. He is issuing a report according to Justice regulations about what he found, but it is NOT a definitive, conclusive statement that will address every single angle and nuance of the entire investigation.

    The report is from the perspective of the issues that he was initially to address as the goal (collusion), and then from his work, went into other areas related and relevant to his goal. This investigation is NOT squarely Mueller’s…it consists of two other components. There is still Mueller’s grand jury, the other cases (Gates, Flynn, Cohen), along with other federal jurisdictional cases (DC, southern district of New York, northern Virginia). And, there are still dozens of sealed indictments.

    Furthermore, Justice cannot charge a crime to someone or discuss in detail their consideration of charging a crime to someone unless they meet the 90% certainty threshold–beyond a reasonable doubt–which is a daunting, and appropriate, level. Of course, that does not mean that there will not be future charges as a result of the ongoing investigations that meet that threshold, or that evidence uncovered as a result of the ongoing investigations will not lead to new charges.

    Do some homework, major media and the Alt Right.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @El Dato
  19. Coemgen says:

    I’m much more interested in the special counsel to investigate the crimes of Hillary Clinton, her acolytes, and her financial backers.

    Aside, when, for example, a Republican, is pressured to denounce some unsavory and fringy character, (s)he should “refuse to be negative” and instead praise those who have fought evil.

    Remember, a lot of nice white boys died fighting to end slavery in the U.S. and a lot died fighting Nazis and Imperial Japan.

  20. anon[349] • Disclaimer says:

    I have wondered if “Putin hacked our elections” is the perfect story for two reasons. #1. It sounds plausible to technology-clueless boomers, who aren’t known for the strongest of passwords and think anything can be hacked. #2. Putin seems like an evil white guy, so it keeps the Democratic narrative nice and unequivocal that white guys are evil.

  21. @Bruce County

    Mueller has conclusively identified the man who put the bomp in the bomp-bah-bomp-bah-bomp.

    • Replies: @CCZ
  22. What’s in the Miller Report?

  23. Anonymous[221] • Disclaimer says:

    I am not an American, and I personally find Trump’s style distasteful (to put it mildly). I felt a deep sense of dread when he was elected, fearing that the neocons would play to his ego, and the United States would spread more chaos and terror across the world, in the name of advancing the status quo.

    But I have come to value Trump’s guilelessness and unpredictability. He is destroying the self-righteous facade that the Unites States built-up over the past 100 years. From the FAA covering up design flaws in planes, to Trump’s Tweetstorms, to out-of-control American run social media polarization ripping the country apart and destabilizing western democracies, the liberalist facade (used as cover for endless war-making) of the United States has been receiving body-blows recently.

    Objectively, Trump isn’t any worse than Obama or Romney. He is indisputably better than McCain, Hillary, the neocons and George W Bush.

    Deliberately, or inadvertently, Trump is destroying the American empire, its soft power, and alleged “moral leadership”. When he finishes up, America will face a period of introspection, while it cleans up its long-festering messes (long pre-dating Trump himself), and leave the rest of the world the hell alone. For that reason alone, I hope Trump is vindicated by the report, and goes on to win a second term.

  24. CCZ says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    That means that Senate Democrats will need to investigate:

    Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong?
    Who put the bop in the bop shoo bop shoo bop?
    Who put the dip in the dip da dip da dip?

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  25. Marty says:
    @Desiderius

    Sean Martin is a law professor in San Diego, HLS grad, who blogs on California Court of Appeal & 9th Circuit opinions. Here’s what he wrote the other about the Presidency, in discussing a new case which upheld legislation requiring minimum LE experience to run for County Sheriff:

    Sometimes experience is good, and sometimes it’s good to instead get someone who perhaps brings a fresh perspective that’s not been formed (and/or jaded) by prior work in the area. … Which is why, for example, we don’t have any service qualifications to become, say, President of the United States. If you’ve got a pulse, are 35 years old (14 of which were spent here) , and are a natural born citizen, you can control the world.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  26. Big news to drop on a Friday. That says something.

  27. istevefan says:
    @Desiderius

    Yep. The Mueller investigation was effective in that it consumed the first two years of Trump’s term, and caused him to waste an enormous amount of energy and effort that should have been used in pushing the agenda that got him elected.

    Now this investigation can wind down as the dems are in control of the House, which will further prevent that agenda from ever happening. That’s assuming of course that Trump even wanted it in the first place.

    At this point with the border in shambles and breachings at a 15 year high, the only thing I can hope for is that Ginsburg leaves the court this calendar year. After all, we went through that thing about not being able to replace a supreme court justice in an election year. So you know if she waits to quit until January, they won’t try to replace her until the next admin takes over the following January. If we could get that seat, it would be at least something. Though for me it was always immigration or bust. And it is looking bust right now.

  28. @Anonymous

    I couldn’t agree more. Whatever his failings, Trump has exposed the corruption of the Deep State and its allies in the media; goaded the Democrats into saying what they really believe, such as that “borders are racist”; and revealed that most members of the GOPe are perfectly content to let the Democrats run things. For those things alone, his presidency has been crucial. (Granted there are plenty of people who will never get the message.)

    • Replies: @Hail
  29. @Crank

    true believers can read into it whatever they want.

    I have an old friend, a liberal, a very intelligent guy other than that he swallows hook, line, and sinker the progressive narrative. He believes Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election. I asked him to describe how this might have occurred and he had no explanation. I guess having no answer didn’t bother him. Whatever they say in the NYT and on NPR is gospel to him.

  30. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Marty

    And if you can make it to becoming a judge you can tear up the Constitution, rewrite laws, and stay in place despite obvious health problems and extreme old age.

  31. @Anonymous

    I agree. Even if Trump leaves much to be desired in the conventional sense, in another sense, he’s probably the best we could do under these circumstances. However disappointed I often feel with his latest inanity, I am still extremely relieved that Hellary is not president.

  32. Corvinus says:
    @istevefan

    “Now this investigation can wind down…”

    The reality that it’s only begun. You do realize there are pending cases and two major investigations–Congress and the intelligence community–still taking place.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @notanon
    , @istevefan
  33. @istevefan

    Though for me it was always immigration or bust. And it is looking bust right now.

    Immigration is the key issue. But it was inevitable that Trump would disappoint us. Keep in mind that he has changed the terms of discourse. And that he is up against all Democrats, almost the entire media, the spergy Libertarians (is there any other kind?) and the entire Republican establishment.

    Given the odds, he’s done better than I expected him to do.

  34. Lagertha says:
    @Anonymous

    Music to my ears! Unlike you, I never cared about Trump’s style; I only cared about my children’s future happiness and well, their survival in a world free of hate of them…what they represent.

    I have enjoyed Trump’s slaying of the feckless, money-grubbing, puerile, dishonest media, sniveling, over-made-up (why do they wear such drag-queen makeup on CNN/MSNBC/ABC/NBC?) pundits, journalists, senators, congresspeople, world leaders, NGO’s, loser, childless, shriveled-up, EU prime ministers. Western Civ strikes back! Take no prisoners!

    I knew the dossier was a great mouse trap for years now, for the Left. And, Mueller, well, he was the big fat Elmer Fudd mouse that was fed (and fell for it) the bait by Steele and McCain….and, really, when you look at this man, he knows he must give up – he has to not totally trash his legacy because: his kids – let’s face it, he is not long for this world, but the world will hate his progeny – that’s they way it goes when you are a traitor…you are not honest.

    Mueller is even not Ahab-worthy as far as being resolute. His nuts are in a vice, and have been for some time, and he would rather not have Trump twist them. It is over, he knows it, the public knows it. What a big waste of time and taxpayer money!!! Now, we need several people to be imprisoned for treason.

  35. bomag says:
    @Corvinus

    If you think things work this way, you are a bigger fool than revealed to date.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  36. Svigor says:

    Mueller did not recommend any additional indictments, according to a Justice Department official who is not authorized to speak publicly.

    I guess we know what’s not in the Mueller report.

    (((Big Media))) are pathetic. (((NPR))) today repeated the “dozens of indictments, convictions, and bla bla bla from Mueller to date” thing that BM has been repeating ad infinitum. As if all their listeners are as innumerate as they are; dude, that includes dozens of frivolous indictments of Russians padding that “stat.” The old saying goes, “you can indict a ham sandwich.” They got a couple of people on process crimes, or for being dirty well away from Trump. Yippee. Clown World.

    I’m actually shocked at how clean Trump’s proven to be, so far. He’s a NYC real estate developer, FFS. This is the best they can do?

  37. Hail says: • Website
    @Rich

    he should still win in 2020

    I am not sure what you mean by “should” here.

    Prediction, or hope?

    I hope people here reject Trump (Kushner) as the do-nothing and net-negative that he has shown himself to be. Say ‘no’ to D-Team vs. R-Team games.

    • Replies: @Rex Little
  38. El Dato says:
    @Corvinus

    Hmm “It’s complicated, just you wait” trope. Same old.

    Furthermore, Justice cannot charge a crime to someone or discuss in detail their consideration of charging a crime to someone unless they meet the 90% certainty threshold–beyond a reasonable doubt.

    I missed the moment when courts decided to apply correct Causal Reasoning and Bayesian Inference to court cases.

    “Computing…”
    “The computer says 90%, your honor!”

    “GUILTY!”

  39. @Hail

    You can reject all that and still hope Trump wins in 2020. Who could the Democrats run who would be less bad?

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Desiderius
  40. Hail says: • Website
    @Harry Baldwin

    his presidency has been crucial

    I can go along with that to a point, but it is a low bar; as if Trump gets a major handicap in scoring. He has turned out to be a net negative on immigration. Precious time is being wasted.

    In 2015 Q3, American nationalism invested all its hopes on Trump. All the chips were down on Trump for immigration restriction, for deporting illegals, for serious moves towards the revaluing of American identity and citizenship. We all remember it well.

    His total failure and Kushnerization has now cost us 3.5 years of wasted time and counting, during which time nothing productive has been done and the crisis has gotten much worse, and now even con-artist Trump has even rhetorically flipped (“highest levels ever”). Millions more non-Westerners have arrived and/or been citizened-in since we turned to this man in 2015, and millions more are in the pipeline.

    Do-Nothing Trump (as of 2019, Do-Harm Trump) will be in the presidency through 2021 Q1, or 2025 Q1. That makes a total of 5.5 years lost, or 9.5 years lost if he (shudder) wins a second term.

  41. Hail says: • Website
    @istevefan

    If Trump is now cleared by Inquisitioner Mueller in the Russia Collusion (whatever that ever meant) conspiracy theory, maybe Trump’s ego will be boosted enough that he will feel the ability to walk away on top, and announce he will not run again…opening up a primary and a real MAGA candidate to win.

    I hope he is considering this.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    , @Lagertha
  42. @Anonymous

    It doesn’t matter.

    In 2020, or 2024, or 2028, America will get its non-white majority. One front you failed to mention was immigration, which Trump has miserably thrown away.

    It doesn’t matter what the platform is; as long as the Democrats are the anti-white party, the non-whites will line up and vote them into office.

    Americans are getting a brief glimpse into the abyss before they are swallowed.

  43. @Hail

    Yup, I was all in.

    My expectations were too high, I suppose. At that time, I believed that political solutions were still possible in America (and Canada by extension).

    Quite honestly the only thing that is saving us right now against the blacks is abortion, the only thing saving us against the Hispanics (who have a plummeting birth rate) is liberal degeneracy.

    But with Donald “Highest immigration ever” Trump (H1-B man), the newest threat is subcontinentals and chinamen. Believe me, once you deal with Indians/Pakis you will go running back to your Mexican brothers.

    Whites are just barely holding our own above 50% in the births (remember it was supposed to cross in 2012 but still hasn’t). There is still time – but it is dwindling every single day immigration is not restricted.

    • Replies: @Hail
  44. Luke Lea says:

    The biggest anti-climax in modern American history anyone ?

  45. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus

    The reality that it’s only begun. You do realize there are pending cases and two major investigations–Congress and the intelligence community–still taking place.

    It’s all horseshit. Prolefeed for the kind of nitwit – you, for example – who listens to and actually believes NPR. Nobody out int he country gives a damn one way or the other. Just as nobody really cared about Ken Starr’s investigation. You’re a f**king idiot.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  46. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous

    When he finishes up, America will face a period of introspection, while it cleans up its long-festering messes (long pre-dating Trump himself), and leave the rest of the world the hell alone.

    That assumes that the people who run it have any sense of shame. They don’t. America will keep doing what it’s doing until the wheels fall off – the credit runs dry, the infrastructure stops working, etc..

    As commenter UrbaneFrancoOntarian said, the only thing that Trump was voted into office to do – the thing that got him elected – he has failed at. My guess is he goes on to become the Republican Jimmy Carter – a one termer.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  47. @Hail

    He has turned out to be a net negative on immigration.

    Compared to a President Jeb Bush or President Hillary Clinton?

    • Replies: @Hail
  48. @Hail

    Who do you have in mind that you think can A) win an election and B) get anything done on immigration against the wishes of the Powers That Be?

  49. Hail says: • Website
    @Rex Little

    reject all that and still hope Trump wins in 2020

    Doesn’t this make one a zero-bargaining-power sucker?

  50. Lagertha says:
    @Hail

    shut up and go join your circle jerk of jerks. Men like you is what has weakened the USA; and, if you are some sniveling, smarmy woman, I hate you even more.

  51. Hail says: • Website
    @Harry Baldwin

    As has been remarked here in the iSteve comment section often of late:

    I see no tangible difference from how Jeb would’ve governed. Perhaps not much actual policy difference on immigration even from Hillary. It’s all talk (or tweet), and even the talk has changed — “Largest Numbers Ever.”

    My worry is, given that Trump: [1] craves approval from the system/media, and [2] thinks (knows?) that he has a sizable, low-info fanbase (one that thinks he’s always fighting for the White Middle America Little Guy no matter what he does — up to and including the “largest numbers ever” thing, the global campaigns to promote feminism and homosexuality, the soft-amnesties, the failure to do anything to blunt immigration), Trump has the potential to do a lot more damage than Jeb, or Hillary, ever could.

    A formal, ‘Big A’ grand bargain in his second term seems pretty much inevitable. Result:

    • Replies: @Anon
  52. anon[387] • Disclaimer says:

    Corvinus claimed for years that the Russians were coming. That’s now disproved, but yet he continues his shameless lying and shilling. Example:

    “The reality that it’s only begun. You do realize there are pending cases and two major investigations–Congress and the intelligence community–still taking place.”

    It’s a bunch of nothing – mostly partisan witch hunts by House Dems, most of whom have already made fools of themselves + no further indictments as Mueller himself has stated:

    The Big Enchilada, the conspiracy that buffoons like yourself have been pushing, has just been debunked. Nice shameless deflection, though. “Look, a squirrel!”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  53. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    You are assuming second-term Trump will be like first-term Trump. Second term US Presidents with nothing to lose tend to do crazy things, especially if there isn’t a clear successor (Obama didn’t really care about igniting the culture wars because he isn’t particularly fond of Hillary).

    There’s a good chance that Trump will attack Iran in his second term.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  54. TTSSYF says:
    @Mr. Anon

    As commenter UrbaneFrancoOntarian said, the only thing that Trump was voted into office to do – the thing that got him elected – he has failed at. My guess is he goes on to become the Republican Jimmy Carter – a one termer.

    I don’t agree. While controlling illegal immigration was the top issue, almost as important to me and others were Trump’s promises to nominate conservative justices to the Supreme Court, wipe out ISIS, and improve the economy. He has delivered on all three, along with getting us out of the Iran and climate deals, and even his critics are reluctantly conceding that his hard line with China is working. I’m disappointed that he hasn’t been able to do anything about the immigration issue (but of course, the Establishment Republicans refused to back him when they controlled Congress, and even now, too many of them stab him in the back — yes, Rubio, that includes you), and the lack of concern by nearly everyone in D.C. about the national debt really bothers me, but I’m still grateful for what he has accomplished and for preventing a Hillary presidency. If the media weren’t in lock-step against him, more people would know and appreciate the things he has done.

    I don’t see how any of the current crop of kooky Dems beats him. They have gone so far to the Left that it is hard for me to see how they are able to reposition themselves closer to the center-Left in the general election. During the debates, I would expect Trump to destroy Harris, Sanders, or even Biden.

  55. TTSSYF says:
    @Anon

    I hope one of the crazy things he does is release information about the phony collusion case and all the illegal, subversive actions of the CIA (Brennan, Clapper), DOJ (Lynch, Rosenstein, others), and FBI (Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, others), up to and including the ringleader in all of this — Obama.

  56. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “It’s all horseshit.”

    I wouldn’t expect you to understand the legal ramifications of what is taking place with Mueller. It is way above your pay grade.

    “Nobody out int he country gives a damn one way or the other.”

    That is observably false.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  57. Corvinus says:
    @bomag

    “If you think things work this way, you are a bigger fool than revealed to date.”

    Clearly you were asleep in Legal 101. Too much skirt chasing and little to show for it. Mueller and his team are not going to go on some wild goose chase. That is not how the rule of law works here.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @DCThrowback
  58. Anon[807] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    I got news for you, HAIL. The reason you are so miserable in life is not because of immigration — it’s because of you. You keep posting the same repetitive rant in threads where it doesn’t belong, even going so far as to attack salt-of-the-earth Middle America Trump supporters. You are not even in favor of God and traditionalism at all, and if you were, you would be doing something about it.

    Kids, don’t be like “Hail.” You see there are two kinds of people in this world. There are those who try to see the positive and do what they can to effect change, and there are miserable little annoying whiners like Hail. Don’t be a Hail.

  59. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    “Corvinus claimed for years that the Russians were coming. That’s now disproved, but yet he continues his shameless lying and shilling.”

    I do not expect you to understand our legal system and how it works. Mueller issued a report for his part of the investigations, not a “final” report on the entire investigation. It is not his job to indict Trump, as DOJ guidelines say that a stirring president cannot be indicted–even though critics contest that legality of those guidelines. Moreover, considering there are still a number of open investigations taking place, those current findings or the evidence culled is not going to be made public. Mueller’s report is a road map for Congress–he lays out the facts and makes recommendations.

    So nothing has been “debunked” from a legal point of view. Trump and his family are not out of the woods by a long shot.

  60. @TTSSYF

    They have gone so far to the Left that it is hard for me to see how they are able to reposition themselves closer to the center-Left in the general election.

    If they want to avoid whiplash, sure,

    However, I am sure they will manage to pretend they are centrists.

  61. notanon says:

    the media’s Russia collusion hoax allowed a corrupt FBI to bug Trump thereby scaring off anyone in DC from working for him for fear of ending up like Manafort or Kelly.

    a successful coup d’etat.

    they don’t need indictments.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  62. The only way any of this makes sense is if Steps Were Taken to prevent a Bernie presidency from all across the deep state, D and R and professional nonpartisans.

    That would be the only thing to explain the DOJ stonewalling of their own congressional investigators. The Special Counsel investigation was conducted in such a way as to garner no rank-and-file R support and limited support from neutral observers, so must have been intended as a distraction/pro forma exercise.

  63. notanon says:
    @Corvinus

    The reality that it’s only begun. You do realize there are pending cases and two major investigations–Congress and the intelligence community–still taking place.

    Russia collusion was a hoax to allow them to bug everyone he talked to.

    it should be obvious to everyone from Trump’s surrender on immigration and neocon foreign policy that it worked and they got him.

    they don’t need indictments

    *not* indicting (probably one of his sons) is how they control him from now on.

  64. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus

    I wouldn’t expect you to understand the legal ramifications of what is taking place with Mueller. It is way above your pay grade.

    Then explain them, you insufferable dolt.

    That is observably false.

    It’s entertainment for political junkies. None of it will have any consequence beyond those few chumps who end up getting indicted. The whole spectacle helps derail Trump’s agenda, which is one of the reasons the Democrats are doing it, but then I’m not sure it’s possible to derail it more than Trump himself has done.

    I’ve used up my word limit for replying to idiots like you.

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  65. Mr. Anon says:
    @TTSSYF

    I don’t agree. While controlling illegal immigration was the top issue, almost as important to me and others were Trump’s promises to nominate conservative justices to the Supreme Court, wipe out ISIS, and improve the economy.

    ISIS? You mean the shadowy jihad-army that we always somehow let escape the whole time we were “fighting” it? The Russians and Syrians destroyed ISIS, not us. Trump did reportedly turn off the support for those “moderate” Syrian groups who seemed to be allied with ISIS, so good for him.

    Why do you care about ISIS anyway?

    As to Supreme Court justices: Kavanaugh was a Bush Administration flunky. You think he’s really conservative? Maybe. Let’s hope he’s not conservative like John Roberts has proved to be.

  66. anon[126] • Disclaimer says:

    “Then explain them, you insufferable dolt.”

    aaaand….**wait for it** … he never did. Not surprised.

  67. anon[129] • Disclaimer says:

    “I do not expect you to understand our legal system and how it works. Mueller issued a report for his part of the investigations, not a “final” report on the entire investigation.”

    Mueller issued his final report for the Russiagate investigation – the entire Russian collusion part. You’re inappropriately conflating different things in an attempt to deflect from the fact that your conspiracy has been debunked. “Oh, look! A squirrel!”

    “It is not his job to indict Trump, as DOJ guidelines…”

    He could easily recommend them, which he has not and will not. Moreover, he could easily do so for people other than Trump, which would be the case if there had been any collusion. There was none. Fact: not a single American was ever indicted on any charge involving Russian collusion in the 2016 election.

    “Moreover, considering there are still a number of open investigations taking place”

    None of those “investigations” are serious investigations into Russian collusion, which has now been debunked. Nearly all of them are procedural nonsense over campaign finance and the like. Stop lying and deflecting. The rest are political witch hunts by democrats like Jerry “2 email accounts and $4,700” Nadler.

    “those current findings or the evidence culled is not going to be made public.”

    The report will almost certainly be made public.

    “So nothing has been “debunked” from a legal point of view.”

    Except the entirety of Russiagate which you insisted was true. You know, the original purpose of the investigation. Seems like a pretty big thing.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  68. anon[129] • Disclaimer says:

    “Clearly you were asleep in Legal 101. Mueller and his team are not going to go on some wild goose chase. That is not how the rule of law works here.”

    But that’s exactly what he did. The entirety of Russian collusion has now been debunked. Three years and NO RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY = wild goose chase. Clearly, you were asleep … never mind. You’re just a buffoon. There’s no nice way to say it.

  69. istevefan says:
    @Corvinus

    The reality that it’s only begun. You do realize there are pending cases and two major investigations–Congress and the intelligence community–still taking place.

    Then hopefully they will impeach Trump.

  70. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “Then explain them, you insufferable dolt.”

    I offered an analysis. You came back with “It’s all horseshit”.

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  71. Anon[273] • Disclaimer says:

    “I offered an analysis. You came back with “It’s all horseshit”.”

    You offered nothing but your opinion and a distortion of the facts, as usual. There has been ZERO collusion, so you’re left with inappropriately conflating different issues: “Look at all these indictments” … for ancillary and comparatively minor things that have nothing to do with Russia – that after you spent years shamelessly promoting this conspiracy theory.

    “Then hopefully they will impeach Trump.”

    They don’t have the guts for that because they’ve got nothing. And people are going to be in the mood for payback when this report shows no collusion after all the time and money and lies put into it. Pelosi must have been given advance warning of this report for her to have come out against impeachment so vocally last week. She wanted to get ahead of all this before it broke.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  72. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus

    I offered an analysis. You came back with “It’s all horseshit”.

    No, you offered horseshit. That’s all anyone expects from a horse’s ass like you.

  73. Anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    The phrase “insufferable dolt” is a peculiar term used by a prunish celebrity fakeugee. You should probably be careful who you source your opinions from.

  74. bomag says:
    @Corvinus

    You give us inane, grade school level civics lectures. Useless.

  75. DCThrowback says: • Website
    @Corvinus

    bwahahaha – no, of course not, never. I suppose it also came as a shock to you about the existence of a Deep State (in 2017, of course). Corvinus goes to Washington, indeed.

    –related–

    “Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.”

    “It is not!”

  76. Corvinus says:
    @Anon

    “You offered nothing but your opinion and a distortion of the facts, as usual.”

    What I offered is completely factual in nature regarding the purview of the Mueller investigation. There are several ongoing cases as well as “loose ends” that resulted from his inquiry that apparently have been “farmed out” to other federal jurisdictions.

    “There has been ZERO collusion, so you’re left with inappropriately conflating different issues”

    It is all interrelated.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/after-mueller-ongoing-investigations-trump/585376/

  77. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    “Mueller issued his final report for the Russiagate investigation – the entire Russian collusion part.”

    Nothing has been debunked, as the investigation into this matter is currently taking place.

    “He could easily recommend them, which he has not and will not.”

    No, that was not under his purview.

    “None of those “investigations” are serious investigations into Russian collusion.’

    LOL. You are a fool to believe that investigators are other than serious in getting to the bottom of Trump malfeasance. The legal system does not work in that manner. The “Deep State Conspiracy” is a ruse. Do not fall for it.

  78. Corvinus says:
    @notanon

    “the media’s Russia collusion hoax allowed a corrupt FBI to bug Trump thereby scaring off anyone in DC from working for him for fear of ending up like Manafort or Kelly.”

    Where is your specific evidence to back up this assertion?

  79. Precious says:

    I notice that Proof of Collusion : How Trump Betrayed America, by Seth Abramson, has taken a hit in the reviews and sales over the weekend.

    I hope Corvinus sold enough copies to make his quota.

    Maybe it could be rolled over to the fiction category to keep going?

  80. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:

    “the process is the punishment”. It doesn’t matter if your enemy is obviously innocent of any crime – if you can get friendly lawyers to back you up, you can still harass him, waste his time, and generally disrupt his work by subjecting him and his associates to endless surveillance and investigation.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  81. Coemgen says:
    @Anonymous

    “Punishment by process”

    Hat tip to Freerepublic commenter Cboldt.

  82. Hail says: • Website
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Whites are just barely holding our own above 50% in the births (remember it was supposed to cross in 2012 but still hasn’t)

    I believe it did fall below 50% and then slightly recovered to just over 50%.

    Which goes to show it’s not all downhill.

    There is still time – but it is dwindling every single day immigration is not restricted.

    We are already well into uncharted political territory. The phrase “There is still time”: I would ask, for what? What is the within-the-system solution? I would love to know so we can get working on it.

    (Apparently there are still many here who believe cheerleading for Donald “Highest Numbers Ever” Trump is the solution. I cannot agree.)

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    @MEH 0910

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    @MEH 0910

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