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Wall Street Journal reporter John Carreyou’s long crusade to expose Elizabeth Holmes’ Silicon Valley blood-testing start-up Theranos as a fake-it-until-you-make it hoax resulted today in the SEC imposing a ten year ban on Holmes and a $500,000 fine for “massive fraud.”

A little noticed aspect of the story is that Holmes was a true believer in the power of the Deep State, recruiting for her board aged national security superstars like former secretaries of state George Schultz and Henry Kissinger, past and current secretaries of defense like Bill Perry and James Mattis, and so forth.

A few lessons:

Elderly machiavels don’t actually know anything about medical technology.

Contrary to the conventional wisdom, Old White Men actually like young blonde women.

Our elites really believe the conventional wisdom that there must be all this discriminated against non-white male talent out there. Obviously, the only reason there haven’t been female, black, or Hispanic Steve Jobs yet is because of discrimination. So if Elizabeth Holmes dressed like Steve Jobs, then she probably is the New Steve Jobs.

 
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  1. She really liked presenting herself as a kind of distaff Steve Jobs….

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    • Replies: @songbird
    That sort of thing is pretty common, IMO. I'm, of course, talking specifically about tech CEOs weirdly trying to copy the look of Jobs. Or else trying to develop their own (in imitation of Jobs) like Zuck. Steve Jobs never really had an original look. His was just generic art history student.

    Now, Robert Mugabe, on the other hand... I feel like someone told him about Mao suits, and he just didn't understand what they were trying to say. Still, you've got to applaud his cheerful choice of colors. I wonder if he still wears one in captivity, when he is feeling glum.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome, @peterike
    Ya know she’d be attractive if she didn’t look completely batshit crazy.
    , @utu
    Was she different than Steve Jobs in terms of psychopathy? She just did not have a product. Steve Jobs did not define nor create his product. Her product was more ambitious than his. Must have been because it was impossible to make.
    , @Dr. X
    It's no surprise to me whatsoever that she's a fraud. There simply are no women geniuses. None.

    It's high time that alt-righters who are willing to call out the truth with regard to the genetic basis of racial differences start doing the same with regard to gender differences. We're all familiar with the fact that median black IQ is a full standard deviation below median white IQ, and that the right-hand tail of the black bell curve contains very few geniuses relative to whites, while the left-hand tail contains far more criminals and morons relative to the white population.

    A similar -- but, very importantly, not identical -- argument needs to be made about male vs. female differences. Unlike the black-white comparison, median male-female IQ (taking into account only the white population for purposes of this argument) is probably the same, but the female bell curve is shaped differently; the range of female talent seems to be clustered more around the median, within, say, one standard deviation above and below the median, whereas the male bell curve would be flatter, containing more geniuses on the right-hand tail two or three standard deviations away from the median -- but also more criminals and perverts two or three standard deviations away on the left-hand tail.

    The world as we know it has been created entirely, 100%, without exception, by males on the far-right hand tail of the curve. Washington, Napoleon, Caesar, Edison, Ford, Jobs, Watt, Faraday, Beethoven, Mozart, Bell, Morse, Gates -- the list goes on and on. And it's all white males.

    Intelligent females can be equal or superior to men of the second and third and fourth rank, but there are no females with a place among the pantheon of truly great, world-shaping men.

    One final point: I am not sure that "IQ" as we normally understand it (i.e., scoring well on an IQ test) fully explains this phenomenon. There are a number of women who score very highly on intelligence tests. But great men are not simply intelligent, they're also risk-takers, which females are not. And the risk-taking nature of men not only explains why there are more successful men on the right-hand tail of the distribution, it explains why there are more stupid men on the far left tail of the distribution that are criminals and inmates, too.

    Unfortunately, just as our radically egalitarian (dare I say pseudo-communist?) society bombards us with fictional propaganda that blacks are equal if not superior to whites (e.g., Wakanda) we're also incessantly told the lie that women are equal or superior to men. You hear far more about Amelia Earhart these days than you do about Charles Lindbergh... but the former crashed and disappeared forever, while the latter lived to a ripe old age.

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  2. Hmmm, hands in the pockets poise indicates what? And does she have $500,000 to pay the fine?

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  3. Steve Jobs was half Syrian Muslim. Does that count as being white?

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Steve Jobs was half Syrian Muslim. Does that count as being white?
     
    Sadly, Steve Jobs was raised as a Christian, which means no POC points for him.....Had he been raised as a Muslim...uber-tier POC points.....
    , @Anonymous
    Yes it absolutely counts as white . Have you not seen alt right guys absolutely swooning over red headed Bashar Assad and his pale white skin ?

    You would think he was a topless Putin,he gets so much love from the WN community.

    Sure its partly that they drool over anyone who hates Jews . Still they consider him white.

    A huge fave are his pastel dressed Easter pics with his wife and 4 kids. The WN ideal they can never achieve ( females hate wn dudes).

    , @songbird
    I don't believe I ever saw an old picture, but based on his current appearance, his father certainly looks white. I'm not even talking "Italian", like Danny Thomas.

    Leaving in the political turmoil in the early '50s probably makes him qualitatively different than the current crop. Still, he seemed to maybe have A-hole genes, unless they came from the mother's side. But knocking someone up and running away is not the best testament to good character.
    , @The King is A Fink
    It depends. If he is to be blamed for something or hurt someone's feelings, then he is white. If he is to be celebrated, then he is a POC. Simple.
    , @Sorley boy
    Whitish. Syrians, Lebanese the Levant generally heavily Hellenic for long periods of history. He had a vaguely other appearance but raised by white people and intermarried with Europeans. Im sure to his children its a bit like saying I had a spanish grandmother on one side ! : )
    , @MarcB.
    It's depends on his admixture. The Levant is much whiter than the majority of the Arab world.
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  4. I wonder if she salted away a little nest egg, something to cover expenses should her plans fall apart. $10 million or so.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    $10M? Out of her paycheck? I doubt she was paid half that in 10 years. Her "wealth" or "net worth" were all on paper, based on capital raise valuations. You can't spend or save paper gains any more than you can spend hot air. She was a Silicon Valley fraud from the get-go. She had an idea based on her imagination that couldn't be engineered because there was no science behind it. Nobody looked into the science (due diligence) because they were convinced she was the next Steve Jobs, or whomever...

    It was marketing and salesmanship, not technology.
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  5. So, if there’s pro-discrimination in favor of non-white male talent in the start-up scene, is there reverse discrimination against white-male talent?

    Could a venture capitalist, like coach Belichick, exploit this anti-white male bias to make better returns?

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  6. I didn’t quite realize the one time in the past I saw an article about this woman that she’s this generation’s Barry Minkow. Amazing amount of energy and audacity has to go into these scams.

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    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    Great pointer, Art. There's a movie out about his life called Con Man. Never heard of Barry Minkow but it sounds like he's a master. we'll see if a movie shows up about this Holmes woman.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdiOYh0CRqo

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  7. Compare her punishment to Jeffrey Skilling’s.

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    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    do they make that turtle neck in orange as the new black?
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  8. OT: Similar to the Women’s March in DC after Trump was elected, blacks are pushing out nice whites and demanding that the focus of school shootings stop being on white people and, finally for once, be on black people who never get any attention.

    https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/3/14/17120796/national-school-walkout-race-gun-violence-protests

    This leads to a larger question about who gets empathy in America, which issues are deemed important, and the types of activism and activists the public responds to.

    Who, whom.

    Students at Brooklyn’s Academy of Young Writers dedicated their walkout to both the Parkland victims and black men and women killed in police shootings in recent years.

    “The black community has been faced with lots of violence all the time,” Zayinab Jagun, a 17-year-old student, told reporters.

    Passive voice much. Active voice is a tad problematic so I can see why this young man avoids it.

    Also, what the hell is the Brooklyn Academy of Young Writers? Is that a high school?

    And experts on race and school discipline have noted that recent efforts to improve school safety and calls to arm teachers have largely ignored how increased discipline would affect students of color, and overlook the fact that school shootings like Parkland are rare in communities of color.

    Hmm. I feel as though trying to reduce racial disparities in school discipline might have helped cause the Parkland shootings.

    The current school safety debate “is about protecting the narrative that white suburban schools are places of safety and preserving the idea that violence is elsewhere, that black and Latino youth represent danger,” Stacey Patton, an assistant professor at Morgan State University, recently wrote in the Washington Post.

    Calling all Nice White Ladies and their kids, blacks are getting increasingly sick of you and your demand to hog some of the victim attention.

    The students themselves are eager to change the narrative and expand the conversation.

    Yes, I’m quite sure that blacks would throughly enjoy a spirited debate on the causes of violence in their neighborhoods.

    The Coalition of the Fringes is getting restless. With white men nearly purged from its ranks, white women and white kids are next in line for being told to move to the back of bus.

    Good.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    98% of all gun crimes in NYC are committed by blacks and Hispanics, yet it's the putative black and Hispanic "leaders" that called for an end to "stop, question, and frisk" which helped get guns of the streets. Go figure.
    , @Nico
    Long before people were talking about “safe spaces” I had said that segregation was in the end simply a means of giving blacks the space they needed to act obnoxiously without causing ruckus for the rest of us. Of course, in the interest of political correctness we should admit that it would be nice if such a configuration could be revived with quick and easy means to tell apart the (dwindling but still significant) minority of blacks who do in fact wish to act white and lead something like a paisible life.
    , @Escher

    And experts on race and school discipline have noted that recent efforts to improve school safety and calls to arm teachers have largely ignored how increased discipline would affect students of color, and overlook the fact that school shootings like Parkland are rare in communities of color.
     
    These experts are quite racist for assuming that increased discipline will have a bigger impact on non white students.
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  9. I still find it remarkable that she attracted the board Theranos assembled – there is still a lot more to this story.

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    • Replies: @advancedatheist
    Yeah, when the directors of your "company" sound like supporting characters from a Tom Clancy novel, it makes sense to ask whether you have something else going on besides the company's explicit purpose.
    , @J.Ross
    Not remarkable at all. The nastiest way to summarize the Trumpening is to say that our elites are clueless inheritors, completely unworthy of their positions, and the only economic models they know are rent-seeking or government-assisted partial monopolization. This follows highly experienced and trained people buying into Enron, Mozilo and Madoff.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    No. It's very unremarkable. In addition to the point Steve makes about the Great White Whale of minority tech brilliance...
    Old men: (1) easily manipulated by young women and (2) with health concerns increasingly in the forefront of their minds, probably could talk themselves into believing it was both important tech and a goldmine. Plus, (3), hey, the gang's all here!
    , @Steve Sailer
    Holmes snagged George Schultz, who lives in the area, and the others came through him. Schultz's grandson worked for the company but I don't remember which one became involved with Theranos first.
    , @Tyrion 2
    When you can't question people because of their identity, those people will run a lot of scams.
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  10. “Contrary to the conventional wisdom, Old White Men actually like young blonde women.”

    Steve, I had a momentary brain fumble that had me reading that line as:

    “Contrary to the conventional wisdom, Old White Men actually act like young blonde women.”

    I mentally agreed to some essential truth in the idea that old and not so old White guys have gone, y’know, like, uh, major ditzy blonde in their patterns of thought and behavior. I congratulated you on your guru-like insight into how crap-ified our White elites are.

    Then, after a millisecond, I read that sentence as you actually published it.

    My brain-fumbled version of your sentence makes more sense.:)

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    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "No fool like an old fool" - do you have that saying on your side of the pond? Particularly when a slender young blonde is in the picture.
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  11. @Arclight
    I still find it remarkable that she attracted the board Theranos assembled - there is still a lot more to this story.

    Yeah, when the directors of your “company” sound like supporting characters from a Tom Clancy novel, it makes sense to ask whether you have something else going on besides the company’s explicit purpose.

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  12. @syonredux
    She really liked presenting herself as a kind of distaff Steve Jobs....


    http://networthcelebrities.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/elizabeth-holmes-net-worth-5.jpg

    That sort of thing is pretty common, IMO. I’m, of course, talking specifically about tech CEOs weirdly trying to copy the look of Jobs. Or else trying to develop their own (in imitation of Jobs) like Zuck. Steve Jobs never really had an original look. His was just generic art history student.

    Now, Robert Mugabe, on the other hand… I feel like someone told him about Mao suits, and he just didn’t understand what they were trying to say. Still, you’ve got to applaud his cheerful choice of colors. I wonder if he still wears one in captivity, when he is feeling glum.

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    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
    I could read a whole book on the theatrical couture of dictators and major biz figures. It’s a subject which doesn’t interest me when the clothes are worn by mere mortals. Normally, when I hear the word ‘couture’ I reach for my gun.
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  13. Being a woman does not help, in fact it makes things ten times harder. But wealth and political connections probably helped her stay out of prison despite her proven fraud and risking people’s lives

    She made the same mistake Shkreli made: she defrauded wealthy investors. Had she stuck to the poor and middle classes, she would have not only been fine but been highly rewarded for her scam.

    For example, she should have opened up a phony university, hired boiler room sales staff and high pressured the naive, desperate, and confused to max out their credit cards for tens of thousands of dollars for useless “inside” information anyone can get with a quick Google search. She should have then looted the funds, funneling the vast bulk of them into her private bank accounts, while cheating the builders, staff, and other contractors out of their pay, then bankrupting the “university”. After a lackluster “investigation” by federal authorities, she would be fined $25 million, which would glean her a handsome $150 million profit for ripping off the poor and middle classes. She would then by touted as a “brilliant deal maker” and who knows, maybe even elected to higher office, perhaps even the presidency.
    I know you think it’s absurdly far fetched, but I think these criminal tactics have worked well for others before.
    Well, at least one person I can think of immediately

    She now has the perfect resume to join the Trump administration.

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    • Replies: @Precious
    She now has the perfect resume to join the Trump administration.

    Wrong, she isn't hot enough. Too plain jane.
    , @AKAHorace
    For once Tiny Duck, a lot of what you are saying makes sense.
    , @Twinkie

    Had she stuck to the poor and middle classes, she would have not only been fine but been highly rewarded for her scam.

    For example, she should have opened up a phony university, hired boiler room sales staff and high pressured the naive, desperate, and confused to max out their credit cards for tens of thousands of dollars for useless “inside” information anyone can get with a quick Google search.
     
    Yes, but could she have managed to be incredibly "lucky" and become the president of the United States and the leader of the putative free world?
    , @map
    Sure...

    Or you could sell 20% of America's uranium supply to a potential enemy for a cool $120 million.
    , @dr kill
    Whoa, whoa, did you and Leonard Pitts get a divorce?
    , @Clyde
    What places did you copy n paste from?
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  14. @Ali Choudhury
    Steve Jobs was half Syrian Muslim. Does that count as being white?

    Steve Jobs was half Syrian Muslim. Does that count as being white?

    Sadly, Steve Jobs was raised as a Christian, which means no POC points for him…..Had he been raised as a Muslim…uber-tier POC points…..

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    • Replies: @Moses
    Jobs’s bio mother was ethnic German. So were his adoptive parents.

    Germans have talent.
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  15. Any chance the directors get sued?

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    Those big name guys--Kissinger, et al., weren't actual directors. They were advisory directors. Names purchased for cache. Of course you can sue anyone.
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  16. @Harry Baldwin
    I wonder if she salted away a little nest egg, something to cover expenses should her plans fall apart. $10 million or so.

    $10M? Out of her paycheck? I doubt she was paid half that in 10 years. Her “wealth” or “net worth” were all on paper, based on capital raise valuations. You can’t spend or save paper gains any more than you can spend hot air. She was a Silicon Valley fraud from the get-go. She had an idea based on her imagination that couldn’t be engineered because there was no science behind it. Nobody looked into the science (due diligence) because they were convinced she was the next Steve Jobs, or whomever…

    It was marketing and salesmanship, not technology.

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    • Replies: @Pericles
    It's not unknown for top executives to be allowed to sell some of their stock to investors in a financing round (in tandem with the company issuing new stock for new investors).

    Just don't sell too much or it looks bad.
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  17. My mom was a nurse (retired). Mom knew immediately that a device that extracted blood from a fingertip would not yield the same results as a needle-extracting-blood-from-veins because capillary blood isn’t necessarily exactly the same as blood as in deeper tissues that a physician needs to examine.

    People know their businesses. Gen. Mattis has forgotten more about military procedures and strategies than I will ever know, but my former nurse mother knows more about hospital-stuff than he does. One wonders if Theranos was well-meaning and “just sure” that this approach could be made to work because she convinced herself on “feelgoodz”, and didn’t (at first) intend to defraud anyone. I would not wanna cross Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, Bill Perry, and James Mattis.

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    One wonders if Theranos was well-meaning and “just sure” that this approach could be made to work
     
    I don't know when well meaning turned to fraud, but apparently her brainstorm was exactly of the "wouldn't it be nice" variety - "wouldn't it be nice if you could just prick your finger and do a complete blood panel from a single drop of blood?" She had this idea but she literally had no idea how to implement it or whether it was really possible (it isn't for the reason that you give). Her idea was that "I'll raise a lot of money and hire a bunch of smart (white) guys to make my idea into reality" but even all the smart white guys a billion $ can buy can't make the physcially impossible possible.
    , @dr kill
    Yes. The gauge of the needle matters. Sort of a Schrödinger's cat thing.
    , @JackOH
    ditto, notice. My sister is a longtime hospital laboratory manager. Long story short: venous vs. capillary, and sufficient quantity of blood to allow it to be centrifuged into serum and other components for some tests.

    I would have thought due diligence wouldn't be all that difficult. Where's the patent? Where's the prototype analyzer? Where's the supporting research?

    , @Alfa158
    Political heavy hitters are not selected as board members for their expertise, this is purely influence peddling. It is why you see people like these folks and the Clintons on the boards of companies doing businesses they know absolutely nothing about. The Beltway celebrity members bring credibility for raising money from real investors, their Rolodexes of contacts, and can make regulators shy away from looking too critically at the company.
    In return the members don’t have to put their own money in to it and get massive stock options for a couple of days a year of meetings. If the company goes public they cash in big time. It’s a form of celebrity endorsement, like having your name put on a perfume or basketball shoes. You don’t need to know anything about making those products.
    If the company doesn’t make it only the suckers get hurt. Holmes got off easy despite crossing Kissinger, Shultz et al by embarrassing them publicly.
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  18. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    OT: Similar to the Women's March in DC after Trump was elected, blacks are pushing out nice whites and demanding that the focus of school shootings stop being on white people and, finally for once, be on black people who never get any attention.

    https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/3/14/17120796/national-school-walkout-race-gun-violence-protests


    This leads to a larger question about who gets empathy in America, which issues are deemed important, and the types of activism and activists the public responds to.
     
    Who, whom.

    Students at Brooklyn’s Academy of Young Writers dedicated their walkout to both the Parkland victims and black men and women killed in police shootings in recent years.

    “The black community has been faced with lots of violence all the time,” Zayinab Jagun, a 17-year-old student, told reporters.
     

    Passive voice much. Active voice is a tad problematic so I can see why this young man avoids it.

    Also, what the hell is the Brooklyn Academy of Young Writers? Is that a high school?


    And experts on race and school discipline have noted that recent efforts to improve school safety and calls to arm teachers have largely ignored how increased discipline would affect students of color, and overlook the fact that school shootings like Parkland are rare in communities of color.
     
    Hmm. I feel as though trying to reduce racial disparities in school discipline might have helped cause the Parkland shootings.

    The current school safety debate “is about protecting the narrative that white suburban schools are places of safety and preserving the idea that violence is elsewhere, that black and Latino youth represent danger,” Stacey Patton, an assistant professor at Morgan State University, recently wrote in the Washington Post.
     
    Calling all Nice White Ladies and their kids, blacks are getting increasingly sick of you and your demand to hog some of the victim attention.

    The students themselves are eager to change the narrative and expand the conversation.
     
    Yes, I'm quite sure that blacks would throughly enjoy a spirited debate on the causes of violence in their neighborhoods.

    The Coalition of the Fringes is getting restless. With white men nearly purged from its ranks, white women and white kids are next in line for being told to move to the back of bus.

    Good.

    98% of all gun crimes in NYC are committed by blacks and Hispanics, yet it’s the putative black and Hispanic “leaders” that called for an end to “stop, question, and frisk” which helped get guns of the streets. Go figure.

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  19. Sometime ago there was talk of rebooting the old TV show “The A-team.” With modern day political influences. Imagine their last season with that new ethnic character x the whole team.

    Anyway, they mentioned one of the team members would be a woman. In the action sense, perhaps making the team amazons would be the one thing that could make the show sillier, but I recall thinking that a woman would make an excellent Face, in so far as a pretty woman could very easily work a con on men. But I was thinking super model level, but if the men are above 70, Holmes would probably do nicely.

    I recall people were pretty skeptical of her from the start. She never explained how the technology was supposed to work. And it was obvious that a lot of the buzz was because she was a woman, and her pictures featured her Jobs costume.

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  20. Contrary to the conventional wisdom, Old White Men actually like young blonde women.

    George Schultz was equal opportunity. Condoleezza Rice was a protege and he backed Holmes-Theranos. Her aping of Steve Jobs with her black turtlenecks is hilarious. Faux blonde flummoxed her ol geezer backers. Blond hair set against black blouses, sweaters, jackets and so on etc. All her images show her dress for Silicon Success

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=elizabeth+holmes&FORM=HDRSC2

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  21. Why does she just get a civil penalty for her fraud while Shkreli gets jail time for his?

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    Why does she just get a civil penalty for her fraud while Shkreli gets jail time for his?
     
    Because women are always given vastly lighter sentences than men, for like-like crimes. Women usually face just 10-20% of the jailtime that a man faces. In a late-stage democracy, this is inevitable. Plus, many ideologies that think they have not devolved into feminism (like race nationalism) have in fact devolved into variants of feminism.
    , @PiltdownMan
    I wondered that too. She got off really lightly. This was deliberate fraud.

    I knew a guy in investment banking who left a bulge bracket firm and started a business re-packaging and selling investments to retail investors. He skimped on spending money for specialized quality legal counsel and his disclosure documents were found wanting. He got two years. No evil intent but a sloppy approach to quality control.

    The Feds used to be unforgiving not just about securities fraud but simply little guy investors being put at a disadvantage.

    Maybe times have changed.

    , @Lagertha
    there you go again, Steve, not truly respecting us, Machiavellian blondes!
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  22. @Dave Pinsen
    Why does she just get a civil penalty for her fraud while Shkreli gets jail time for his?

    Why does she just get a civil penalty for her fraud while Shkreli gets jail time for his?

    Because women are always given vastly lighter sentences than men, for like-like crimes. Women usually face just 10-20% of the jailtime that a man faces. In a late-stage democracy, this is inevitable. Plus, many ideologies that think they have not devolved into feminism (like race nationalism) have in fact devolved into variants of feminism.

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    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    "Because women are always given vastly lighter sentences than men, for like-like crimes. Women usually face just 10-20% of the jailtime that a man faces."

    Did you see this story from the DailyMail about a bailbondswoman who murdered this guy in cold blood and was acquitted? Check it out. Be sure to actually watch the video. Outrageous.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5495363/Video-shows-bail-officer-killing-client-son.html

    , @anonymous
    It's my understanding -- I'm not a lawyer -- that this concluded her civil charges, but she'll soon be faced with criminal charges ... I'm not sure. I hope this beetch gets jail time.
    , @sabril
    There is a distinction between feminism and gynocentrism albeit with a lot of overlap. The idea of putting women first is as old as the hills; long before women had the vote they enjoyed a protected position in society. Which makes sense, since women are the limiting factor in a culture's ability to sustain itself demographically. Probably at this point the urge to protect women -- especially young attractive women -- is in our DNA.

    The other thing to consider is that there's a good chance that Holmes was for the most part window dressing. If I were pushing some kind of tech startup I would be tempted to find a girl to use in this way. The amount of positive attention automatically received by pretty girls is probably something like 100 to 1 when compared to an average- looking man. I believe that Halfsigma demostrated this a few years back with his "Libertarian Girl" hoax, in which he started a political blog pretending to be a pretty blond girl.

    One thing I learned from this blog is how easy attractive woman have it. When I had a blog as my real self, no one linked to me, no one left any comments, it was as if the blog existed in a vacuum. But things were different for Libertarian Girl. Every day I’d check Technorati and discover new unsolicited links. It was like I had warped into an alternate universe where all the rules had changed.
     
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  23. OT
    Australia bans fully semi-automatic bolt-action assaulty rifles.

    Bolt-action rifle ordered turned in by Australian officials as it’s too ‘assaulty’

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    Australia bans fully semi-automatic bolt-action assaulty rifles.
     
    I'll bet they secretly think that with a bump stock it would be fully automatic. I used to think Aussies had extraordinary common sense. I could not have been more wrong.
    , @Flip
    Semi-automatic and bolt action are different.
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  24. @songbird
    That sort of thing is pretty common, IMO. I'm, of course, talking specifically about tech CEOs weirdly trying to copy the look of Jobs. Or else trying to develop their own (in imitation of Jobs) like Zuck. Steve Jobs never really had an original look. His was just generic art history student.

    Now, Robert Mugabe, on the other hand... I feel like someone told him about Mao suits, and he just didn't understand what they were trying to say. Still, you've got to applaud his cheerful choice of colors. I wonder if he still wears one in captivity, when he is feeling glum.

    I could read a whole book on the theatrical couture of dictators and major biz figures. It’s a subject which doesn’t interest me when the clothes are worn by mere mortals. Normally, when I hear the word ‘couture’ I reach for my gun.

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  25. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ali Choudhury
    Steve Jobs was half Syrian Muslim. Does that count as being white?

    Yes it absolutely counts as white . Have you not seen alt right guys absolutely swooning over red headed Bashar Assad and his pale white skin ?

    You would think he was a topless Putin,he gets so much love from the WN community.

    Sure its partly that they drool over anyone who hates Jews . Still they consider him white.

    A huge fave are his pastel dressed Easter pics with his wife and 4 kids. The WN ideal they can never achieve ( females hate wn dudes).

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    "The WN ideal they can never achieve ( females hate wn dudes)."

    Oh hey Thomm
    , @Thomm

    A huge fave are his pastel dressed Easter pics with his wife and 4 kids. The WN ideal they can never achieve ( females hate wn dudes).
     
    This is of course true. You should repeat this message often, under a handle other than 'Anonymous'.
    , @Pericles

    Have you not seen alt right guys absolutely swooning over red headed Bashar Assad and his pale white skin ?

     

    Lol, Assad is all-right.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/20161110_assad3.jpg

    Sure its partly that they drool over anyone who hates Jews . Still they consider him white.

     

    Well, he's approximately as white as a Jew.
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  26. @Ali Choudhury
    Steve Jobs was half Syrian Muslim. Does that count as being white?

    I don’t believe I ever saw an old picture, but based on his current appearance, his father certainly looks white. I’m not even talking “Italian”, like Danny Thomas.

    Leaving in the political turmoil in the early ’50s probably makes him qualitatively different than the current crop. Still, he seemed to maybe have A-hole genes, unless they came from the mother’s side. But knocking someone up and running away is not the best testament to good character.

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  27. The establishment has been exposed as a fraud and will surely never again speak on subjects with which they have no understanding. They will be humbled and reflect on their abuse of their authority.

    I’m really excited about the possibility for change from this.

    Also, she didn’t take any of my money.

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  28. I actually used Theranos products once, but I dropped it and the glass broke so now I use the styrofoam ones.

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    They make really nice stainless steel Theranos's now, completely unbreakable.
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  29. Obviously, the only reason there haven’t been female, black, or Hispanic Steve Jobs yet is because of discrimination.

    I get the irony of course, but could you say with equal irony that the only reason why whites are not proportionately represented in Jewish Hollywood is because of discrimination? Some whites might have their own ‘we waz kangs’ mentality.

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    I get the irony of course, but could you say with equal irony that the only reason why whites are not proportionately represented in Jewish Hollywood is because of discrimination? Some whites might have their own ‘we waz kangs’ mentality.
     
    Plausible mentality. Think of Bergman and the great French and Italian and Eastern European and Japanese non-Jewish movies. Why not Christian Americans.
    , @Anonymous

    Some whites might have their own ‘we waz kangs’ mentality.
     
    Sure, except for the tiny little detail that whites actually did run the country once upon a time.
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  30. @syonredux

    Steve Jobs was half Syrian Muslim. Does that count as being white?
     
    Sadly, Steve Jobs was raised as a Christian, which means no POC points for him.....Had he been raised as a Muslim...uber-tier POC points.....

    Jobs’s bio mother was ethnic German. So were his adoptive parents.

    Germans have talent.

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    Jobs’s bio mother was ethnic German. So were his adoptive parents.
     
    Adoptive father was of German descent; his adoptive mother was Armenian:

    Steve’s biological father, Abdulfattah John Jandali, is a Syrian Muslim, from Homs. Steve’s biological mother, Joanne Carole (Schieble), was an American of Swiss-German and German descent. The two met in Wisconsin, where Joanne was from, while Abdulfattah was there as a student. Because of family objections to the couple, they did not initially marry. His biological mother gave him up for adoption. His biological parents later married and had another child, writer Mona Simpson.

     


    Steve was adopted by a California couple, Clara (Hagopian) and Paul Reinhold Jobs. Paul was of German descent, and was the son of Edwin A. Jobs and Clara B. Clara Hagopian was of Armenian ancestry, and was the daughter of Louis Hagopian and Victoria Artinian.
     
    http://ethnicelebs.com/steve-jobs

    Steve Jobs' biological father:


    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/30/article-0-0DA06C2C00000578-958_224x381.jpg

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  31. There is also an element here of being able to snowball people for a time that any technological idea is achievable now. I am thinking particularly of the widespread belief that self-driving taxis will be shuttling large numbers of people around cities in a few years.

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    In Jew of New York there is a scheme to deliver -- by tap -- seltzer water to every house in Manhattan. An educated person should blame nothing else for jumping into a scam, in any time.
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  32. @syonredux
    She really liked presenting herself as a kind of distaff Steve Jobs....


    http://networthcelebrities.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/elizabeth-holmes-net-worth-5.jpg
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  33. I am disappointed that she won’t be incarcerated. She and her vibrant CEO richly deserve it and, well, people regularly do 2-5 years for frauds much less audacious.

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  34. Were German troops told: “When you capture this Polish/Russian/Czech town, rape the women, and when you’re done raping them, kill them?” as Ehrenburg told the Soviet Army to do to German women? Do we have records of this?

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    They were told to kill all Jews
    , @Jack D
    The Germans killed AT LEAST 20,000,000 Soviet citizens. According to some estimates, it may be as much as 40,000,000 (the Communists had their own reasons for understating the casualties). What difference does it make if they raped them first?
    , @dried peanuts
    Solzhenitysyn says somewhere that "fraternization" with slavic women was allowed, but that german women could be killed. But remember, regardless of orders, discipline was a huge problem for the soviets. A lot of guys were totally out of control. They had roving NKVD squads trying to get to bank vaults and safes before the front-line troops blew them up with captured panzerfausts. The eastern front was no place for a woman.
    , @inertial

    Were German troops told: “When you capture this Polish/Russian/Czech town, rape the women, and when you’re done raping them, kill them?” as Ehrenburg told the Soviet Army to do to German women?
     
    Ehrenburg never said that. This is your fantasy.
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  35. @Moses
    Jobs’s bio mother was ethnic German. So were his adoptive parents.

    Germans have talent.

    Jobs’s bio mother was ethnic German. So were his adoptive parents.

    Adoptive father was of German descent; his adoptive mother was Armenian:

    Steve’s biological father, Abdulfattah John Jandali, is a Syrian Muslim, from Homs. Steve’s biological mother, Joanne Carole (Schieble), was an American of Swiss-German and German descent. The two met in Wisconsin, where Joanne was from, while Abdulfattah was there as a student. Because of family objections to the couple, they did not initially marry. His biological mother gave him up for adoption. His biological parents later married and had another child, writer Mona Simpson.

    Steve was adopted by a California couple, Clara (Hagopian) and Paul Reinhold Jobs. Paul was of German descent, and was the son of Edwin A. Jobs and Clara B. Clara Hagopian was of Armenian ancestry, and was the daughter of Louis Hagopian and Victoria Artinian.

    http://ethnicelebs.com/steve-jobs

    Steve Jobs’ biological father:

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    Steve Jobs' adoptive parents (German and Armenian) and biological parents (German and Syrian) were similarly ethnically, although his adoptive parents were high school dropouts while his bio parents were postgrads. I think his biological father was the nephew of a Syrian foreign minister.
    , @Escher
    The resemblance is eerie.
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  36. @syonredux
    She really liked presenting herself as a kind of distaff Steve Jobs....


    http://networthcelebrities.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/elizabeth-holmes-net-worth-5.jpg

    Ya know she’d be attractive if she didn’t look completely batshit crazy.

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    Crazy and attractive are hardly mutually exclusive. This chick is just a grifter though.
    , @Twinkie
    https://binged.it/2Io47Bo

    You have low standards for beauty. She's not repulsive, but looks weird and out of proportion.
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  37. @Dave Pinsen
    Why does she just get a civil penalty for her fraud while Shkreli gets jail time for his?

    I wondered that too. She got off really lightly. This was deliberate fraud.

    I knew a guy in investment banking who left a bulge bracket firm and started a business re-packaging and selling investments to retail investors. He skimped on spending money for specialized quality legal counsel and his disclosure documents were found wanting. He got two years. No evil intent but a sloppy approach to quality control.

    The Feds used to be unforgiving not just about securities fraud but simply little guy investors being put at a disadvantage.

    Maybe times have changed.

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  38. @Arclight
    I still find it remarkable that she attracted the board Theranos assembled - there is still a lot more to this story.

    Not remarkable at all. The nastiest way to summarize the Trumpening is to say that our elites are clueless inheritors, completely unworthy of their positions, and the only economic models they know are rent-seeking or government-assisted partial monopolization. This follows highly experienced and trained people buying into Enron, Mozilo and Madoff.

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  39. @Arclight
    I still find it remarkable that she attracted the board Theranos assembled - there is still a lot more to this story.

    No. It’s very unremarkable. In addition to the point Steve makes about the Great White Whale of minority tech brilliance…
    Old men: (1) easily manipulated by young women and (2) with health concerns increasingly in the forefront of their minds, probably could talk themselves into believing it was both important tech and a goldmine. Plus, (3), hey, the gang’s all here!

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  40. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    When I first saw a video of Holmes I thought she might be an autogynephilic transgender woman. She has a creepy low voice. But she’s a woman-born-woman. She’s simply an example of a far-right tail intelligent woman who has all kinds of creepy associated personality traits as a result, along with her voice. I don’t know if she is autistic or what, but she has a weird affect and a monotone voice. She was able to imporove her appearance and presentation over time, but she remains very creepy. Here’s an earlier video of a speech by her:

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    She seems human here, and even somewhat likable. Strange, but likable in a way. It seems like she really went down the wrong path.
    , @Dmitry
    Her speaking style in the video reminds of even more autistic version of Mark Zuckerberg.

    Also similar kind of robotic stare into camera - of at least photographers inspired to make them pose in similarly robotic style.

    http://m.wsj.net/video/20160708/070816theranos/070816theranos_1280x720.jpg

    https://academic-writing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/MarkZuckerberg-featured1-770x330.jpg

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    At about 2:00 mark her voice comes back up into a closer-to-normal female range.

    In her later videos, she keeps her voice down in that uncanny-valley low range, and she develops a weird pattern where she severely clips the word or syllable at the end of a phrase.

    Maybe she's working really really hard to avoid uptalk?

    Or maybe she went to a speech coach who tried to get her to model her delivery on The Bestest Orator in Human History, i.e. Barack Obama, because that's who she sounds like. See this video as an example of what I mean:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG-IZa-aTqk&feature=youtu.be
    , @Rod1963
    Very smart game player/predator. By hanging around the VC set she learned what they are looking for and how to talk to them(both of which are very important). So when she decided to set up shop the rest was easy.

    Presentation wise she comes off as insincere - personally she sets off all sorts of alarms in me. Which says "don't trust her". Why? Because most geeks don't normally think and talk like that. The only people who think like her are high functioning sociopaths/grifters.

    It's most explicit in her choice of board members - lonely old men with no science or tech background. Hence easily led around yet gives the company serious gravitas to superficial investors. Perfect patsies.

    Even though she got busted she's scary smart and manipulative as can be. She'll be back scamming people in no time.
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  41. @TelfoedJohn

    Obviously, the only reason there haven’t been female, black, or Hispanic Steve Jobs yet is because of discrimination.
     
    I get the irony of course, but could you say with equal irony that the only reason why whites are not proportionately represented in Jewish Hollywood is because of discrimination? Some whites might have their own ‘we waz kangs’ mentality.

    I get the irony of course, but could you say with equal irony that the only reason why whites are not proportionately represented in Jewish Hollywood is because of discrimination? Some whites might have their own ‘we waz kangs’ mentality.

    Plausible mentality. Think of Bergman and the great French and Italian and Eastern European and Japanese non-Jewish movies. Why not Christian Americans.

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  42. @Thomm

    Why does she just get a civil penalty for her fraud while Shkreli gets jail time for his?
     
    Because women are always given vastly lighter sentences than men, for like-like crimes. Women usually face just 10-20% of the jailtime that a man faces. In a late-stage democracy, this is inevitable. Plus, many ideologies that think they have not devolved into feminism (like race nationalism) have in fact devolved into variants of feminism.

    “Because women are always given vastly lighter sentences than men, for like-like crimes. Women usually face just 10-20% of the jailtime that a man faces.”

    Did you see this story from the DailyMail about a bailbondswoman who murdered this guy in cold blood and was acquitted? Check it out. Be sure to actually watch the video. Outrageous.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5495363/Video-shows-bail-officer-killing-client-son.html

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    Did you see this story from the DailyMail about a bailbondswoman who murdered this guy in cold blood and was acquitted? Check it out. Be sure to actually watch the video. Outrageous.
     
    Not surprising at all, unfortunately.

    WNs, of course, are a branch of feminism, and want to cut (white) women a huge amount of slack, which in turn destroys civilization.
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  43. @John Mansfield
    There is also an element here of being able to snowball people for a time that any technological idea is achievable now. I am thinking particularly of the widespread belief that self-driving taxis will be shuttling large numbers of people around cities in a few years.

    In Jew of New York there is a scheme to deliver — by tap — seltzer water to every house in Manhattan. An educated person should blame nothing else for jumping into a scam, in any time.

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  44. A commenter at Zerohedge writes:

    Martin Shkreli = 7 years, $7.5M fine
    Investor capital lost = ~$0
    Elizabeth Holmes = $500k fine, D&O bar
    Company value lost = ~$8 billion

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    Mr. Shkreli has that Damien from "The Omen" smirk on his face. People would like to see him trip and plant his face where a dog had gone. That is why he got such a rough sentence.
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  45. @TelfoedJohn

    Obviously, the only reason there haven’t been female, black, or Hispanic Steve Jobs yet is because of discrimination.
     
    I get the irony of course, but could you say with equal irony that the only reason why whites are not proportionately represented in Jewish Hollywood is because of discrimination? Some whites might have their own ‘we waz kangs’ mentality.

    Some whites might have their own ‘we waz kangs’ mentality.

    Sure, except for the tiny little detail that whites actually did run the country once upon a time.

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  46. @syonredux
    She really liked presenting herself as a kind of distaff Steve Jobs....


    http://networthcelebrities.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/elizabeth-holmes-net-worth-5.jpg

    Was she different than Steve Jobs in terms of psychopathy? She just did not have a product. Steve Jobs did not define nor create his product. Her product was more ambitious than his. Must have been because it was impossible to make.

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    If Jobs had pulled off "the impossible" once it his lifetime it might have just been luck. But he did it at least 5 times.
    , @songbird
    She is a Steve Jobs without a Steve Wozniak, if Jobs was a woman and had extra boosters because of it.
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  47. @Tiny Duck
    Being a woman does not help, in fact it makes things ten times harder. But wealth and political connections probably helped her stay out of prison despite her proven fraud and risking people’s lives

    She made the same mistake Shkreli made: she defrauded wealthy investors. Had she stuck to the poor and middle classes, she would have not only been fine but been highly rewarded for her scam.

    For example, she should have opened up a phony university, hired boiler room sales staff and high pressured the naive, desperate, and confused to max out their credit cards for tens of thousands of dollars for useless "inside" information anyone can get with a quick Google search. She should have then looted the funds, funneling the vast bulk of them into her private bank accounts, while cheating the builders, staff, and other contractors out of their pay, then bankrupting the "university". After a lackluster "investigation" by federal authorities, she would be fined $25 million, which would glean her a handsome $150 million profit for ripping off the poor and middle classes. She would then by touted as a "brilliant deal maker" and who knows, maybe even elected to higher office, perhaps even the presidency.
    I know you think it's absurdly far fetched, but I think these criminal tactics have worked well for others before.
    Well, at least one person I can think of immediately

    She now has the perfect resume to join the Trump administration.

    She now has the perfect resume to join the Trump administration.

    Wrong, she isn’t hot enough. Too plain jane.

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  48. @Thomm

    Why does she just get a civil penalty for her fraud while Shkreli gets jail time for his?
     
    Because women are always given vastly lighter sentences than men, for like-like crimes. Women usually face just 10-20% of the jailtime that a man faces. In a late-stage democracy, this is inevitable. Plus, many ideologies that think they have not devolved into feminism (like race nationalism) have in fact devolved into variants of feminism.

    It’s my understanding — I’m not a lawyer — that this concluded her civil charges, but she’ll soon be faced with criminal charges … I’m not sure. I hope this beetch gets jail time.

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  49. @anon
    Were German troops told: "When you capture this Polish/Russian/Czech town, rape the women, and when you're done raping them, kill them?" as Ehrenburg told the Soviet Army to do to German women? Do we have records of this?

    They were told to kill all Jews

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  50. @notice
    My mom was a nurse (retired). Mom knew immediately that a device that extracted blood from a fingertip would not yield the same results as a needle-extracting-blood-from-veins because capillary blood isn't necessarily exactly the same as blood as in deeper tissues that a physician needs to examine.

    People know their businesses. Gen. Mattis has forgotten more about military procedures and strategies than I will ever know, but my former nurse mother knows more about hospital-stuff than he does. One wonders if Theranos was well-meaning and "just sure" that this approach could be made to work because she convinced herself on "feelgoodz", and didn't (at first) intend to defraud anyone. I would not wanna cross Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, Bill Perry, and James Mattis.

    One wonders if Theranos was well-meaning and “just sure” that this approach could be made to work

    I don’t know when well meaning turned to fraud, but apparently her brainstorm was exactly of the “wouldn’t it be nice” variety – “wouldn’t it be nice if you could just prick your finger and do a complete blood panel from a single drop of blood?” She had this idea but she literally had no idea how to implement it or whether it was really possible (it isn’t for the reason that you give). Her idea was that “I’ll raise a lot of money and hire a bunch of smart (white) guys to make my idea into reality” but even all the smart white guys a billion $ can buy can’t make the physcially impossible possible.

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    I don’t know when well meaning turned to fraud, but apparently her brainstorm was exactly of the “wouldn’t it be nice” variety – “wouldn’t it be nice if you could just prick your finger and do a complete blood panel from a single drop of blood?”
     
    It's as if her whole business plan was the outline of a TED talk.
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  51. @anon
    Were German troops told: "When you capture this Polish/Russian/Czech town, rape the women, and when you're done raping them, kill them?" as Ehrenburg told the Soviet Army to do to German women? Do we have records of this?

    The Germans killed AT LEAST 20,000,000 Soviet citizens. According to some estimates, it may be as much as 40,000,000 (the Communists had their own reasons for understating the casualties). What difference does it make if they raped them first?

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    In some countries the difference made between understandings of World War Two atrocities is prison or "freedom."
    , @anon

    What difference does it make if they raped them first?
     
    Silvio Berlusconi has a joke to tell you. ;)
    , @utu

    The Germans killed AT LEAST 20,000,000 Soviet citizens. According to some estimates, it may be as much as 40,000,000
     
    What a country, you can lose 20,000,000 =(40,000,000-20,000,0000) citizens and not even notice.

    All those Soviet numbers are BS. The same Soviets came up with 4,000,000 for Auschwitz and this number held in the Soviet Block till 1990s.

    A rule of thumb: divide all the numbers claimed by Soviets by PI. (BTW, Jewish claims should be divided by square root of 2).
    , @sayless
    "What difference does it make if they raped them first?"

    Listen to yourself.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    What difference does it make if they raped them first?
     
    Oh come on. Person A is shot and dies a quick death. Person B is tortured and then murdered. No one prefers the experience of B to A.
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  52. From Wikipedia, the Early Life section on Steve Jobs:

    By the time he was ten, Jobs was deeply involved in electronics and befriended many of the engineers who lived in the neighborhood.

    same on Elizabeth Holmes:

    After the end of her freshman year [in college], Holmes worked in a lab at the Genome Institute of Singapore on testing for severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) through the collection of blood samples with syringes

    .

    Both Jobs and Holmes have some creds on being tinkerers. That’s what I’d expect. But Holmes didn’t start tinkering until she was about 20 years old. And not on workbench in the garage. Do we really want 10 year old geniuses tinkering with biological technology in the garage? But then again, no one start play baseball at age 20 and makes it to the majors. Correct if I’m wrong. I probably am.

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  53. The SEC only has authority to sue (civil). The DOJ may in fact still go after her from a criminal perspective. That’s where the jail time would come in.

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  54. The SEC only has authority to sue (civil). The DOJ may in fact still go after her from a criminal perspective. That’s where the jail time would come in.

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  55. @Hippopotamusdrome
    I actually used Theranos products once, but I dropped it and the glass broke so now I use the styrofoam ones.

    They make really nice stainless steel Theranos’s now, completely unbreakable.

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  56. @utu
    Was she different than Steve Jobs in terms of psychopathy? She just did not have a product. Steve Jobs did not define nor create his product. Her product was more ambitious than his. Must have been because it was impossible to make.

    If Jobs had pulled off “the impossible” once it his lifetime it might have just been luck. But he did it at least 5 times.

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    so agree. I miss him.
    , @Autochthon
    "The impossible" now means marketing overpriced geegaws invented by other people to credible, hipster doofuses? Alright, then.
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  57. @utu
    Was she different than Steve Jobs in terms of psychopathy? She just did not have a product. Steve Jobs did not define nor create his product. Her product was more ambitious than his. Must have been because it was impossible to make.

    She is a Steve Jobs without a Steve Wozniak, if Jobs was a woman and had extra boosters because of it.

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    She is a Steve Jobs without a Steve Wozniak, if Jobs was a woman and had extra boosters because of it.
     
    That's what I was thinking. She might have Jobs' fashion sense, but does she have her own Woz? You know, the guy (or gal) who makes an actual product? Who's her Woz? Is s/he still alive?
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  58. The Securities and Exchange Commission does not have the authority to bring criminal charges against anyone:

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    The Enforcement Division works with the other three divisions, and other Commission offices, to investigate violations of the securities laws and regulations and to bring actions against alleged violators. The SEC generally conducts investigations in private. The SEC’s staff may seek voluntary production of documents and testimony, or may seek a formal order of investigation from the SEC, which allows the staff to compel the production of documents and witness testimony. The SEC can bring a civil action in a U.S. District Court, or an administrative proceeding which is heard by an independent administrative law judge (ALJ). The SEC does not have criminal authority, but may refer matters to state and federal prosecutors. The director of the SEC’s Enforcement Division Robert Khuzami left the office in February 2013.[16]

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Securities_and_Exchange_Commission#Divisions

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  59. @Jack D
    The Germans killed AT LEAST 20,000,000 Soviet citizens. According to some estimates, it may be as much as 40,000,000 (the Communists had their own reasons for understating the casualties). What difference does it make if they raped them first?

    In some countries the difference made between understandings of World War Two atrocities is prison or “freedom.”

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  60. @syonredux
    She really liked presenting herself as a kind of distaff Steve Jobs....


    http://networthcelebrities.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/elizabeth-holmes-net-worth-5.jpg

    It’s no surprise to me whatsoever that she’s a fraud. There simply are no women geniuses. None.

    It’s high time that alt-righters who are willing to call out the truth with regard to the genetic basis of racial differences start doing the same with regard to gender differences. We’re all familiar with the fact that median black IQ is a full standard deviation below median white IQ, and that the right-hand tail of the black bell curve contains very few geniuses relative to whites, while the left-hand tail contains far more criminals and morons relative to the white population.

    A similar — but, very importantly, not identical — argument needs to be made about male vs. female differences. Unlike the black-white comparison, median male-female IQ (taking into account only the white population for purposes of this argument) is probably the same, but the female bell curve is shaped differently; the range of female talent seems to be clustered more around the median, within, say, one standard deviation above and below the median, whereas the male bell curve would be flatter, containing more geniuses on the right-hand tail two or three standard deviations away from the median — but also more criminals and perverts two or three standard deviations away on the left-hand tail.

    The world as we know it has been created entirely, 100%, without exception, by males on the far-right hand tail of the curve. Washington, Napoleon, Caesar, Edison, Ford, Jobs, Watt, Faraday, Beethoven, Mozart, Bell, Morse, Gates — the list goes on and on. And it’s all white males.

    Intelligent females can be equal or superior to men of the second and third and fourth rank, but there are no females with a place among the pantheon of truly great, world-shaping men.

    One final point: I am not sure that “IQ” as we normally understand it (i.e., scoring well on an IQ test) fully explains this phenomenon. There are a number of women who score very highly on intelligence tests. But great men are not simply intelligent, they’re also risk-takers, which females are not. And the risk-taking nature of men not only explains why there are more successful men on the right-hand tail of the distribution, it explains why there are more stupid men on the far left tail of the distribution that are criminals and inmates, too.

    Unfortunately, just as our radically egalitarian (dare I say pseudo-communist?) society bombards us with fictional propaganda that blacks are equal if not superior to whites (e.g., Wakanda) we’re also incessantly told the lie that women are equal or superior to men. You hear far more about Amelia Earhart these days than you do about Charles Lindbergh… but the former crashed and disappeared forever, while the latter lived to a ripe old age.

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  61. @Tiny Duck
    Being a woman does not help, in fact it makes things ten times harder. But wealth and political connections probably helped her stay out of prison despite her proven fraud and risking people’s lives

    She made the same mistake Shkreli made: she defrauded wealthy investors. Had she stuck to the poor and middle classes, she would have not only been fine but been highly rewarded for her scam.

    For example, she should have opened up a phony university, hired boiler room sales staff and high pressured the naive, desperate, and confused to max out their credit cards for tens of thousands of dollars for useless "inside" information anyone can get with a quick Google search. She should have then looted the funds, funneling the vast bulk of them into her private bank accounts, while cheating the builders, staff, and other contractors out of their pay, then bankrupting the "university". After a lackluster "investigation" by federal authorities, she would be fined $25 million, which would glean her a handsome $150 million profit for ripping off the poor and middle classes. She would then by touted as a "brilliant deal maker" and who knows, maybe even elected to higher office, perhaps even the presidency.
    I know you think it's absurdly far fetched, but I think these criminal tactics have worked well for others before.
    Well, at least one person I can think of immediately

    She now has the perfect resume to join the Trump administration.

    For once Tiny Duck, a lot of what you are saying makes sense.

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  62. Very current year headline formulation Steve. Although “reveals” should really be “says”

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    Although “reveals” should really be “says”

     

    Reveals you.
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  63. @syonredux

    Jobs’s bio mother was ethnic German. So were his adoptive parents.
     
    Adoptive father was of German descent; his adoptive mother was Armenian:

    Steve’s biological father, Abdulfattah John Jandali, is a Syrian Muslim, from Homs. Steve’s biological mother, Joanne Carole (Schieble), was an American of Swiss-German and German descent. The two met in Wisconsin, where Joanne was from, while Abdulfattah was there as a student. Because of family objections to the couple, they did not initially marry. His biological mother gave him up for adoption. His biological parents later married and had another child, writer Mona Simpson.

     


    Steve was adopted by a California couple, Clara (Hagopian) and Paul Reinhold Jobs. Paul was of German descent, and was the son of Edwin A. Jobs and Clara B. Clara Hagopian was of Armenian ancestry, and was the daughter of Louis Hagopian and Victoria Artinian.
     
    http://ethnicelebs.com/steve-jobs

    Steve Jobs' biological father:


    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/30/article-0-0DA06C2C00000578-958_224x381.jpg

    Steve Jobs’ adoptive parents (German and Armenian) and biological parents (German and Syrian) were similarly ethnically, although his adoptive parents were high school dropouts while his bio parents were postgrads. I think his biological father was the nephew of a Syrian foreign minister.

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    His biological father was an Armenian who grew up in Syria (after the Armenian massacre in 1915, Armenians ran for their lives (if not marched to their deaths) to all the Middle Eastern countries of today. I obviously, have many Armenian connections, which you know. But, I do not know the exact connection of Jobs' bio father's family ties in Syria via Armenia. And, none of that matters anymore, duh, right?
    , @jJay
    My adoptive parents were of almost the exact same ethnic makeup as me. ( I posted my 23andme results here). The Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary made that placement decision in 1960.

    Nikolas Cruz is white. George Zimmerman is not. Some dissident right commentary on the Parkland shooting have botched this. I'm looking at you, Derb.
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  64. @Arclight
    I still find it remarkable that she attracted the board Theranos assembled - there is still a lot more to this story.

    Holmes snagged George Schultz, who lives in the area, and the others came through him. Schultz’s grandson worked for the company but I don’t remember which one became involved with Theranos first.

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    The whistleblower who led to her and her company's downfall was that very same Schultz grandson-- and his Grandpa George sided with the fraudulent company against his own high-minded grandson!

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161117/15475936076/theranoss-insane-campaign-to-punish-whistleblower-who-happened-to-be-famous-boardmembers-grandson.shtml
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  65. @Steve Sailer
    Steve Jobs' adoptive parents (German and Armenian) and biological parents (German and Syrian) were similarly ethnically, although his adoptive parents were high school dropouts while his bio parents were postgrads. I think his biological father was the nephew of a Syrian foreign minister.

    His biological father was an Armenian who grew up in Syria (after the Armenian massacre in 1915, Armenians ran for their lives (if not marched to their deaths) to all the Middle Eastern countries of today. I obviously, have many Armenian connections, which you know. But, I do not know the exact connection of Jobs’ bio father’s family ties in Syria via Armenia. And, none of that matters anymore, duh, right?

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    You are confused. Jobs's adoptive mother was Armenian (nee Hagopian - a common Armenian name).

    Jobs's biological father, Jandali, is an Arab Muslim. Syrians (and Lebanese), especially ones from the upper classes (such as Jandali, Assad, etc.) more so than other Arabs, tend to be white. The average Arab is nothing to write home about intellectually but Jandali has a PhD and is a pretty smart guy. His father (Jobs's grandfather) was a self-made millionaire. His biological sister (his birth mother and father later married and had another child) is a successful novelist and professor. So that he was an intelligent person too is not exactly a big shocker.
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  66. @Steve Sailer
    Holmes snagged George Schultz, who lives in the area, and the others came through him. Schultz's grandson worked for the company but I don't remember which one became involved with Theranos first.

    The whistleblower who led to her and her company’s downfall was that very same Schultz grandson– and his Grandpa George sided with the fraudulent company against his own high-minded grandson!

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161117/15475936076/theranoss-insane-campaign-to-punish-whistleblower-who-happened-to-be-famous-boardmembers-grandson.shtml

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  67. Nearly all reports I’ve read ignore the possible role of her romantic relationship with “Sunny” B(?) in the initiation of the fraud. The SEC complaint against him (but not her) mentions their relationship in 2009 when he stepped in, with credit backing and then as an executive, when Theranos was running out of money. Was the company legit (at least in its promises) before then?

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  68. @peterike
    Ya know she’d be attractive if she didn’t look completely batshit crazy.

    Crazy and attractive are hardly mutually exclusive. This chick is just a grifter though.

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  69. @songbird
    She is a Steve Jobs without a Steve Wozniak, if Jobs was a woman and had extra boosters because of it.

    She is a Steve Jobs without a Steve Wozniak, if Jobs was a woman and had extra boosters because of it.

    That’s what I was thinking. She might have Jobs’ fashion sense, but does she have her own Woz? You know, the guy (or gal) who makes an actual product? Who’s her Woz? Is s/he still alive?

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    As big an advance as the Apple II was (the modern PC is its direct descendant in that it has a motherboard architecture ) it was the only thing Apple did Woz was a key player on. The Mac involved a lot of people, but Woz was not a key player, nor was he in the company at all for the iPod, iPad and iPhone, and had nothing to do with Pixar or NeXT.

    Jobs was not a codehead and his electronic skills were at a hobbyist level circa 1975, but in fairness to him, he was a "style fascist" with a clear vision of what he wanted and he got it done. The modern smartphone with an interface that is operated by fingers alone, was his idea. Previous attempts meant hard keys or a stylus, both of which were anathema to him.

    NeXT was his idea, and while it had flaws, it was in 1994 radically the best user interface and environment for a desktop computer in existence. I was a NeXT user and also a Newton user, which was not his idea and which he essentially took out in back and shot in the head. Newton was a great tool, but in the end, iOS devices are in most ways superior for daily use. Clear adherence to his vision meant there were problems with Apple products, but they also worked very well for most users and most of his bad ideas were ameliorated by people around him to a greater or lesser extent.

    Certainly he was a martinet, in the manner of Ettore Bugatti, and certainly he was occasionally ruthless and cruel. But in the end, in a world where customers could choose his products or alternate ones, he moved the art forward, and sometimes not in a small way. People pay a premium for Apple products not so much for prestige but because they work better than the competition for their purposes.

    Android, for instance, is more versatile than iOS and enables technically savvy users to do more things and sometimes much easier-plug an Android phone into a Windows PC via USB and you can search the directories and copy stuff over as if it were a jump drive, where with iOS you have to use third party software and even then can't transfer some things very easily. But Android is tough to support unfacile users with, for several reasons, whereas iOS is very simple to talk anyone through doing anything Apple intends for you to do. And iPhones are generally better built than most Android phones, and have far fewer technical issues.
    , @Rotten
    Her "Woz" (the inventor with the actual talent) failed to make the product work and killed himself.
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  70. @Tiny Duck
    Being a woman does not help, in fact it makes things ten times harder. But wealth and political connections probably helped her stay out of prison despite her proven fraud and risking people’s lives

    She made the same mistake Shkreli made: she defrauded wealthy investors. Had she stuck to the poor and middle classes, she would have not only been fine but been highly rewarded for her scam.

    For example, she should have opened up a phony university, hired boiler room sales staff and high pressured the naive, desperate, and confused to max out their credit cards for tens of thousands of dollars for useless "inside" information anyone can get with a quick Google search. She should have then looted the funds, funneling the vast bulk of them into her private bank accounts, while cheating the builders, staff, and other contractors out of their pay, then bankrupting the "university". After a lackluster "investigation" by federal authorities, she would be fined $25 million, which would glean her a handsome $150 million profit for ripping off the poor and middle classes. She would then by touted as a "brilliant deal maker" and who knows, maybe even elected to higher office, perhaps even the presidency.
    I know you think it's absurdly far fetched, but I think these criminal tactics have worked well for others before.
    Well, at least one person I can think of immediately

    She now has the perfect resume to join the Trump administration.

    Had she stuck to the poor and middle classes, she would have not only been fine but been highly rewarded for her scam.

    For example, she should have opened up a phony university, hired boiler room sales staff and high pressured the naive, desperate, and confused to max out their credit cards for tens of thousands of dollars for useless “inside” information anyone can get with a quick Google search.

    Yes, but could she have managed to be incredibly “lucky” and become the president of the United States and the leader of the putative free world?

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  71. @Dave Pinsen
    Why does she just get a civil penalty for her fraud while Shkreli gets jail time for his?

    there you go again, Steve, not truly respecting us, Machiavellian blondes!

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  72. @Jack D
    If Jobs had pulled off "the impossible" once it his lifetime it might have just been luck. But he did it at least 5 times.

    so agree. I miss him.

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  73. @peterike
    Ya know she’d be attractive if she didn’t look completely batshit crazy.

    https://binged.it/2Io47Bo

    You have low standards for beauty. She’s not repulsive, but looks weird and out of proportion.

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    Probably you are saying that because you are used to dating supermodels.
    , @Bill
    I think she's pretty, but there is something off with her face. I can't articulate what, though.
    , @SteveRogers42
    As a techno-twit, she's a 10. Out in the rest of Cali, a 7 at best.
    , @a Newsreader
    In that image she kinda reminds me of Mark Zuckerberg:
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  74. @Steve Sailer
    Steve Jobs' adoptive parents (German and Armenian) and biological parents (German and Syrian) were similarly ethnically, although his adoptive parents were high school dropouts while his bio parents were postgrads. I think his biological father was the nephew of a Syrian foreign minister.

    My adoptive parents were of almost the exact same ethnic makeup as me. ( I posted my 23andme results here). The Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary made that placement decision in 1960.

    Nikolas Cruz is white. George Zimmerman is not. Some dissident right commentary on the Parkland shooting have botched this. I’m looking at you, Derb.

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    I wouldn't be so eager to claim Cruz for the white team. His half brother is (half) black. His mother is apparently some kind of crack whore who would sleep with random strangers so probably no one knows who his real father is. National Geographic gives us photographic proof that the union of a black man and a white woman can produce both a white and a black child in the same pregnancy, so who knows what Cruz's actual race is.
    , @Anonymous
    The simple fact is that leftists are to some degree right when they claim that race is "socially constructed". Of course they are not 100% right. That is obvious. Almost everyone here agrees on that. But they are still right to some degree, and their error lies simply in the suggestion that because they are not completely wrong, they must be completely right.

    Most readers here are going to judge Nikolas Cruz and George Zimmerman in ways that are at least partially shaped by cultural and social considerations, even if they also strive to take a look at their biological origins. I see no problem with this. The problem comes when people seek to dismiss biology completely.
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  75. @Jack D
    If Jobs had pulled off "the impossible" once it his lifetime it might have just been luck. But he did it at least 5 times.

    “The impossible” now means marketing overpriced geegaws invented by other people to credible, hipster doofuses? Alright, then.

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  76. @Anonymous
    Yes it absolutely counts as white . Have you not seen alt right guys absolutely swooning over red headed Bashar Assad and his pale white skin ?

    You would think he was a topless Putin,he gets so much love from the WN community.

    Sure its partly that they drool over anyone who hates Jews . Still they consider him white.

    A huge fave are his pastel dressed Easter pics with his wife and 4 kids. The WN ideal they can never achieve ( females hate wn dudes).

    “The WN ideal they can never achieve ( females hate wn dudes).”

    Oh hey Thomm

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  77. @Anonymous
    When I first saw a video of Holmes I thought she might be an autogynephilic transgender woman. She has a creepy low voice. But she's a woman-born-woman. She's simply an example of a far-right tail intelligent woman who has all kinds of creepy associated personality traits as a result, along with her voice. I don't know if she is autistic or what, but she has a weird affect and a monotone voice. She was able to imporove her appearance and presentation over time, but she remains very creepy. Here's an earlier video of a speech by her:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIXAmjUFSso

    She seems human here, and even somewhat likable. Strange, but likable in a way. It seems like she really went down the wrong path.

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  78. @Anonymous
    When I first saw a video of Holmes I thought she might be an autogynephilic transgender woman. She has a creepy low voice. But she's a woman-born-woman. She's simply an example of a far-right tail intelligent woman who has all kinds of creepy associated personality traits as a result, along with her voice. I don't know if she is autistic or what, but she has a weird affect and a monotone voice. She was able to imporove her appearance and presentation over time, but she remains very creepy. Here's an earlier video of a speech by her:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIXAmjUFSso

    Her speaking style in the video reminds of even more autistic version of Mark Zuckerberg.

    Also similar kind of robotic stare into camera – of at least photographers inspired to make them pose in similarly robotic style.

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    Ha ha, her eyes are a bit too perfectly robotical though, with that ring of light around the pupil. I wonder if they were shopped? No, closer up it looks like it's actually the overhead lighting. Someone did a bit of thinking when posing that shot.

    Great photo, in its genre.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    Kind of like this dude
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  79. @Anonymous
    Yes it absolutely counts as white . Have you not seen alt right guys absolutely swooning over red headed Bashar Assad and his pale white skin ?

    You would think he was a topless Putin,he gets so much love from the WN community.

    Sure its partly that they drool over anyone who hates Jews . Still they consider him white.

    A huge fave are his pastel dressed Easter pics with his wife and 4 kids. The WN ideal they can never achieve ( females hate wn dudes).

    A huge fave are his pastel dressed Easter pics with his wife and 4 kids. The WN ideal they can never achieve ( females hate wn dudes).

    This is of course true. You should repeat this message often, under a handle other than ‘Anonymous’.

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    I’m sure there’s a great reason why this “message” is so dear to your heart.
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  80. @ThreeCranes
    "Because women are always given vastly lighter sentences than men, for like-like crimes. Women usually face just 10-20% of the jailtime that a man faces."

    Did you see this story from the DailyMail about a bailbondswoman who murdered this guy in cold blood and was acquitted? Check it out. Be sure to actually watch the video. Outrageous.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5495363/Video-shows-bail-officer-killing-client-son.html

    Did you see this story from the DailyMail about a bailbondswoman who murdered this guy in cold blood and was acquitted? Check it out. Be sure to actually watch the video. Outrageous.

    Not surprising at all, unfortunately.

    WNs, of course, are a branch of feminism, and want to cut (white) women a huge amount of slack, which in turn destroys civilization.

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  81. @27 year old
    Very current year headline formulation Steve. Although "reveals" should really be "says"

    Although “reveals” should really be “says”

    Reveals you.

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  82. @Jack D
    The Germans killed AT LEAST 20,000,000 Soviet citizens. According to some estimates, it may be as much as 40,000,000 (the Communists had their own reasons for understating the casualties). What difference does it make if they raped them first?

    What difference does it make if they raped them first?

    Silvio Berlusconi has a joke to tell you. ;)

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    JackD: What difference does it make if [Wehrmacht invaders] raped them [Russian civilians] first [before murduring them]?

    anon: Silvio Berlusconi has a joke to tell you. ;)

    Good one! Please pick a handle before cracking wise again. Then I can use Unz’ Follow Commenter feature, as I do for Tiny Duck.
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  83. @Jack D
    The Germans killed AT LEAST 20,000,000 Soviet citizens. According to some estimates, it may be as much as 40,000,000 (the Communists had their own reasons for understating the casualties). What difference does it make if they raped them first?

    The Germans killed AT LEAST 20,000,000 Soviet citizens. According to some estimates, it may be as much as 40,000,000

    What a country, you can lose 20,000,000 =(40,000,000-20,000,0000) citizens and not even notice.

    All those Soviet numbers are BS. The same Soviets came up with 4,000,000 for Auschwitz and this number held in the Soviet Block till 1990s.

    A rule of thumb: divide all the numbers claimed by Soviets by PI. (BTW, Jewish claims should be divided by square root of 2).

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  84. Both Jobs and Holmes have some creds on being tinkerers. That’s what I’d expect. But Holmes didn’t start tinkering until she was about 20 years old.

    Nearly all reports I’ve read ignore the possible role of her romantic relationship with “Sunny” B(?) in the initiation of the fraud.

    She might have Jobs’ fashion sense, but does she have her own Woz?

    Elizabeth Holmes’s boyfriend Ramesh “Sunny” Balwani, 18 years her senior, would have been her Jobs, Woz, and Svengali. Balwani probably got her to dye her hair blonde, wear black, and drop out of college. Balwani’s former employer, Bill Gates, is also a noteable dropout.

    The official story is that the summer after Holmes’s senior year of high school in Houston, she and Balwani met in Beijing while studying Chinese. Balwani, who was also studying for an MBA at UC Berekely at the time, was doing more advanced studies. However, they could have met earlier. Balwani had lived in the Bay Area for years – working for Microsoft, owning his own company, and attending UC Berkeley. During high school, Holmes spent three summers at Stanford studying Chinese.

    Balwani has a bachelor’s degree in information systems from UT Austin and speaks advanced Chinese. IF he knew Holmes when she was in high school, that would help explain her first business.

    So when Elizabeth was about 9, her parents found them both a tutor to teach them Mandarin on Saturdays. Elizabeth then supplemented those lessons with summer language programs at Stanford and, later, at two universities in Beijing. Captivated by computer programming in high school, she was struck by how the Chinese universities’ information technology facilities lagged behind what she was used to. To rectify that situation, she started her first business while still in high school, selling C++ compilers to Chinese universities.

    fortune.com/2014/06/12/theranos-blood-holmes/

    The Theranos fraud took place because Balwani has no biotech experience.

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    The strangest thing about Sunny Balwani might be how little public information there is on the guy. He, like the rest of his company, grants almost no interviews and has a nebulous background seemingly unrelated to biotechnology.

    From what we do know, Sunny Balwani...

    Is 49 years old
    Is the President, COO, and Director of Theranos
    Received his MBA at UC Berkeley and undergraduate degree from UT Austin studying information Systems/AI.
    Joined Theranos after dropping out of a Stanford University CS program (unaware if PhD or masters).
    Began his career working at Lotus Development Corporation
    Served at Microsoft in various roles
    Started his own company in the business-to-business e-commerce space which he sold to CommerceOne.
    Had a period of 5-7 years of inactivity between leaving CommerceOne and joining Theranos
    Was a board member at ZiiOS from 2008 to 2010
    Met Holmes in Beijing the summer after Holmes' senior year of high school. At that time he was getting his MBA from Berkeley.
    Has a Twitter account that is essentially 100% about Theranos and lacks a profile picture
    Has no prior experience in biotechnology (very odd for the President and COO of a cutting edge biotech company...)
     
    https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-facts-or-stories-about-Theranos-president-Sunny-Balwani
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  85. @Triumph104

    Both Jobs and Holmes have some creds on being tinkerers. That’s what I’d expect. But Holmes didn’t start tinkering until she was about 20 years old.
     

    Nearly all reports I’ve read ignore the possible role of her romantic relationship with “Sunny” B(?) in the initiation of the fraud.
     

    She might have Jobs’ fashion sense, but does she have her own Woz?
     
    Elizabeth Holmes's boyfriend Ramesh "Sunny" Balwani, 18 years her senior, would have been her Jobs, Woz, and Svengali. Balwani probably got her to dye her hair blonde, wear black, and drop out of college. Balwani's former employer, Bill Gates, is also a noteable dropout.

    The official story is that the summer after Holmes's senior year of high school in Houston, she and Balwani met in Beijing while studying Chinese. Balwani, who was also studying for an MBA at UC Berekely at the time, was doing more advanced studies. However, they could have met earlier. Balwani had lived in the Bay Area for years - working for Microsoft, owning his own company, and attending UC Berkeley. During high school, Holmes spent three summers at Stanford studying Chinese.

    Balwani has a bachelor's degree in information systems from UT Austin and speaks advanced Chinese. IF he knew Holmes when she was in high school, that would help explain her first business.

    So when Elizabeth was about 9, her parents found them both a tutor to teach them Mandarin on Saturdays. Elizabeth then supplemented those lessons with summer language programs at Stanford and, later, at two universities in Beijing. Captivated by computer programming in high school, she was struck by how the Chinese universities’ information technology facilities lagged behind what she was used to. To rectify that situation, she started her first business while still in high school, selling C++ compilers to Chinese universities.

    fortune.com/2014/06/12/theranos-blood-holmes/
     
    The Theranos fraud took place because Balwani has no biotech experience.

    Answered Mar 27, 2016

    The strangest thing about Sunny Balwani might be how little public information there is on the guy. He, like the rest of his company, grants almost no interviews and has a nebulous background seemingly unrelated to biotechnology.

    From what we do know, Sunny Balwani…

    Is 49 years old
    Is the President, COO, and Director of Theranos
    Received his MBA at UC Berkeley and undergraduate degree from UT Austin studying information Systems/AI.
    Joined Theranos after dropping out of a Stanford University CS program (unaware if PhD or masters).
    Began his career working at Lotus Development Corporation
    Served at Microsoft in various roles
    Started his own company in the business-to-business e-commerce space which he sold to CommerceOne.
    Had a period of 5-7 years of inactivity between leaving CommerceOne and joining Theranos
    Was a board member at ZiiOS from 2008 to 2010
    Met Holmes in Beijing the summer after Holmes’ senior year of high school. At that time he was getting his MBA from Berkeley.
    Has a Twitter account that is essentially 100% about Theranos and lacks a profile picture
    Has no prior experience in biotechnology (very odd for the President and COO of a cutting edge biotech company…)

    https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-facts-or-stories-about-Theranos-president-Sunny-Balwani

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  86. @Jack D

    One wonders if Theranos was well-meaning and “just sure” that this approach could be made to work
     
    I don't know when well meaning turned to fraud, but apparently her brainstorm was exactly of the "wouldn't it be nice" variety - "wouldn't it be nice if you could just prick your finger and do a complete blood panel from a single drop of blood?" She had this idea but she literally had no idea how to implement it or whether it was really possible (it isn't for the reason that you give). Her idea was that "I'll raise a lot of money and hire a bunch of smart (white) guys to make my idea into reality" but even all the smart white guys a billion $ can buy can't make the physcially impossible possible.

    I don’t know when well meaning turned to fraud, but apparently her brainstorm was exactly of the “wouldn’t it be nice” variety – “wouldn’t it be nice if you could just prick your finger and do a complete blood panel from a single drop of blood?”

    It’s as if her whole business plan was the outline of a TED talk.

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    Of course Elisabeth Holmes gave a Ted Talk. 2014. https://www.inc.com/john-brandon/the-truth-about-theranos-how-we-were-all-laundered-by-this-spin-machine.html
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  87. @Anonymous
    When I first saw a video of Holmes I thought she might be an autogynephilic transgender woman. She has a creepy low voice. But she's a woman-born-woman. She's simply an example of a far-right tail intelligent woman who has all kinds of creepy associated personality traits as a result, along with her voice. I don't know if she is autistic or what, but she has a weird affect and a monotone voice. She was able to imporove her appearance and presentation over time, but she remains very creepy. Here's an earlier video of a speech by her:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIXAmjUFSso

    At about 2:00 mark her voice comes back up into a closer-to-normal female range.

    In her later videos, she keeps her voice down in that uncanny-valley low range, and she develops a weird pattern where she severely clips the word or syllable at the end of a phrase.

    Maybe she’s working really really hard to avoid uptalk?

    Or maybe she went to a speech coach who tried to get her to model her delivery on The Bestest Orator in Human History, i.e. Barack Obama, because that’s who she sounds like. See this video as an example of what I mean:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG-IZa-aTqk&feature=youtu.be

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    She has a weird voice. Trannies say thanks. That masculine vocal fry voice( not Holmes, she’s weirder) hasn’t gone away in professional girls. A funny manifestation.
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  88. @Anonymous
    When I first saw a video of Holmes I thought she might be an autogynephilic transgender woman. She has a creepy low voice. But she's a woman-born-woman. She's simply an example of a far-right tail intelligent woman who has all kinds of creepy associated personality traits as a result, along with her voice. I don't know if she is autistic or what, but she has a weird affect and a monotone voice. She was able to imporove her appearance and presentation over time, but she remains very creepy. Here's an earlier video of a speech by her:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIXAmjUFSso

    Very smart game player/predator. By hanging around the VC set she learned what they are looking for and how to talk to them(both of which are very important). So when she decided to set up shop the rest was easy.

    Presentation wise she comes off as insincere – personally she sets off all sorts of alarms in me. Which says “don’t trust her”. Why? Because most geeks don’t normally think and talk like that. The only people who think like her are high functioning sociopaths/grifters.

    It’s most explicit in her choice of board members – lonely old men with no science or tech background. Hence easily led around yet gives the company serious gravitas to superficial investors. Perfect patsies.

    Even though she got busted she’s scary smart and manipulative as can be. She’ll be back scamming people in no time.

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    Very smart game player/predator. By hanging around the VC set she learned what they are looking for and how to talk to them(both of which are very important). So when she decided to set up shop the rest was easy.
     
    I knew a millennial guy in the NYC tech scene 8 or 10 years ago. When I first met him he had an app that had zero revenue but he went to SXSW for some reason. Then he started too-lazy-to-go-to-the-store delivery service for young men that blew through a few hundred thousand dollars of angel money before going bust. Anyhow, long story short, I looked him up for some reason recently, and now he's a venture capitalist in New York or San Francisco, I forget which. I don't know if he ever earned a dollar's profit in any venture.
    , @jim jones
    I knew she was a fraud because women have never produced innovation and never will
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  89. @Tiny Duck
    Being a woman does not help, in fact it makes things ten times harder. But wealth and political connections probably helped her stay out of prison despite her proven fraud and risking people’s lives

    She made the same mistake Shkreli made: she defrauded wealthy investors. Had she stuck to the poor and middle classes, she would have not only been fine but been highly rewarded for her scam.

    For example, she should have opened up a phony university, hired boiler room sales staff and high pressured the naive, desperate, and confused to max out their credit cards for tens of thousands of dollars for useless "inside" information anyone can get with a quick Google search. She should have then looted the funds, funneling the vast bulk of them into her private bank accounts, while cheating the builders, staff, and other contractors out of their pay, then bankrupting the "university". After a lackluster "investigation" by federal authorities, she would be fined $25 million, which would glean her a handsome $150 million profit for ripping off the poor and middle classes. She would then by touted as a "brilliant deal maker" and who knows, maybe even elected to higher office, perhaps even the presidency.
    I know you think it's absurdly far fetched, but I think these criminal tactics have worked well for others before.
    Well, at least one person I can think of immediately

    She now has the perfect resume to join the Trump administration.

    Sure…

    Or you could sell 20% of America’s uranium supply to a potential enemy for a cool $120 million.

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    Right, and not get fined or anything.. not even be investigated.
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  90. Testing Dillo browser.

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  91. @anon
    Were German troops told: "When you capture this Polish/Russian/Czech town, rape the women, and when you're done raping them, kill them?" as Ehrenburg told the Soviet Army to do to German women? Do we have records of this?

    Solzhenitysyn says somewhere that “fraternization” with slavic women was allowed, but that german women could be killed. But remember, regardless of orders, discipline was a huge problem for the soviets. A lot of guys were totally out of control. They had roving NKVD squads trying to get to bank vaults and safes before the front-line troops blew them up with captured panzerfausts. The eastern front was no place for a woman.

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    Aside from raping women, the Russians also were wont to carry off everything that wasn't nailed down and many things that were, starting with wristwatches and extending all the way to entire factories. Even Zhukov sent trainloads of war goodies home from Berlin for his personal use. And this was aside from the official "reparations". It wasn't as if the average Soviet soldier could go "shopping" back home - even if consumer goods were available (which they rarely were) Soviet salaries did not cover much beyond the basics. So this was a once in a lifetime opportunity to acquire goods.
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  92. @Thomm

    Why does she just get a civil penalty for her fraud while Shkreli gets jail time for his?
     
    Because women are always given vastly lighter sentences than men, for like-like crimes. Women usually face just 10-20% of the jailtime that a man faces. In a late-stage democracy, this is inevitable. Plus, many ideologies that think they have not devolved into feminism (like race nationalism) have in fact devolved into variants of feminism.

    There is a distinction between feminism and gynocentrism albeit with a lot of overlap. The idea of putting women first is as old as the hills; long before women had the vote they enjoyed a protected position in society. Which makes sense, since women are the limiting factor in a culture’s ability to sustain itself demographically. Probably at this point the urge to protect women — especially young attractive women — is in our DNA.

    The other thing to consider is that there’s a good chance that Holmes was for the most part window dressing. If I were pushing some kind of tech startup I would be tempted to find a girl to use in this way. The amount of positive attention automatically received by pretty girls is probably something like 100 to 1 when compared to an average- looking man. I believe that Halfsigma demostrated this a few years back with his “Libertarian Girl” hoax, in which he started a political blog pretending to be a pretty blond girl.

    One thing I learned from this blog is how easy attractive woman have it. When I had a blog as my real self, no one linked to me, no one left any comments, it was as if the blog existed in a vacuum. But things were different for Libertarian Girl. Every day I’d check Technorati and discover new unsolicited links. It was like I had warped into an alternate universe where all the rules had changed.

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    If there was a hidden white guy pulling the strings for Holmes, I think we would know it by now - for one thing she would have dropped a dime on him so fast it would make your head spin. But she really seems to be the mastermind here. It's sort of hard to accept because women don't tend to mastermind Ponzi schemes but she was the rare exception. Based on the low voice and strange affect, etc. she is probably a hormonal outlier and not a typical female.
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  93. @Twinkie
    https://binged.it/2Io47Bo

    You have low standards for beauty. She's not repulsive, but looks weird and out of proportion.

    Probably you are saying that because you are used to dating supermodels.

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    Probably you are saying that because you are used to dating supermodels.
     
    No, but my wife was a catalog model in college (not JCrew, but similar). I actually don't think super models are the best looking women in the world. They tend to have certain sharp and/or unusual features that photograph well. They "pop out." Mind you, I am NOT saying that they are unattractive. Just not as super good-looking as media hype makes them out to be.

    To me, anyway (and not just because my wife was one), catalog models have much more pleasing, softer "girl next door" looks.

    But that's not why I married my wife, as attractive as she was and still is. I liked that she was high IQ (STEM doctorate), a superb athlete (was top ten in the world at one point), and most importantly had (and still has) very traditional Christian values.
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  94. @Rod1963
    Very smart game player/predator. By hanging around the VC set she learned what they are looking for and how to talk to them(both of which are very important). So when she decided to set up shop the rest was easy.

    Presentation wise she comes off as insincere - personally she sets off all sorts of alarms in me. Which says "don't trust her". Why? Because most geeks don't normally think and talk like that. The only people who think like her are high functioning sociopaths/grifters.

    It's most explicit in her choice of board members - lonely old men with no science or tech background. Hence easily led around yet gives the company serious gravitas to superficial investors. Perfect patsies.

    Even though she got busted she's scary smart and manipulative as can be. She'll be back scamming people in no time.

    Very smart game player/predator. By hanging around the VC set she learned what they are looking for and how to talk to them(both of which are very important). So when she decided to set up shop the rest was easy.

    I knew a millennial guy in the NYC tech scene 8 or 10 years ago. When I first met him he had an app that had zero revenue but he went to SXSW for some reason. Then he started too-lazy-to-go-to-the-store delivery service for young men that blew through a few hundred thousand dollars of angel money before going bust. Anyhow, long story short, I looked him up for some reason recently, and now he’s a venture capitalist in New York or San Francisco, I forget which. I don’t know if he ever earned a dollar’s profit in any venture.

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  95. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    She is a Steve Jobs without a Steve Wozniak, if Jobs was a woman and had extra boosters because of it.
     
    That's what I was thinking. She might have Jobs' fashion sense, but does she have her own Woz? You know, the guy (or gal) who makes an actual product? Who's her Woz? Is s/he still alive?

    As big an advance as the Apple II was (the modern PC is its direct descendant in that it has a motherboard architecture ) it was the only thing Apple did Woz was a key player on. The Mac involved a lot of people, but Woz was not a key player, nor was he in the company at all for the iPod, iPad and iPhone, and had nothing to do with Pixar or NeXT.

    Jobs was not a codehead and his electronic skills were at a hobbyist level circa 1975, but in fairness to him, he was a “style fascist” with a clear vision of what he wanted and he got it done. The modern smartphone with an interface that is operated by fingers alone, was his idea. Previous attempts meant hard keys or a stylus, both of which were anathema to him.

    NeXT was his idea, and while it had flaws, it was in 1994 radically the best user interface and environment for a desktop computer in existence. I was a NeXT user and also a Newton user, which was not his idea and which he essentially took out in back and shot in the head. Newton was a great tool, but in the end, iOS devices are in most ways superior for daily use. Clear adherence to his vision meant there were problems with Apple products, but they also worked very well for most users and most of his bad ideas were ameliorated by people around him to a greater or lesser extent.

    Certainly he was a martinet, in the manner of Ettore Bugatti, and certainly he was occasionally ruthless and cruel. But in the end, in a world where customers could choose his products or alternate ones, he moved the art forward, and sometimes not in a small way. People pay a premium for Apple products not so much for prestige but because they work better than the competition for their purposes.

    Android, for instance, is more versatile than iOS and enables technically savvy users to do more things and sometimes much easier-plug an Android phone into a Windows PC via USB and you can search the directories and copy stuff over as if it were a jump drive, where with iOS you have to use third party software and even then can’t transfer some things very easily. But Android is tough to support unfacile users with, for several reasons, whereas iOS is very simple to talk anyone through doing anything Apple intends for you to do. And iPhones are generally better built than most Android phones, and have far fewer technical issues.

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    Jobs made hand-holding products for adventurous children. No wonder they're so fashionable.
    , @Jack D

    People pay a premium for Apple products not so much for prestige but because they work better than the competition for their purposes.
     
    For certain people and certain purposes.

    Apple products tend to appeal to people without technical sophistication because they hide the nuts and bolts behind a slick facade. As long as you are willing to leave all the decisions up to Apple and go along with doing it Steve Jobs's way, it's great. It's sort of like a modern luxury car -when you lift the hood, you don't even see an engine but a plastic cover that hides what is underneath. You aren't supposed to be digging in there and changing the spark plugs yourself - you are supposed to leave it to the pros. You can't just use your old socket wrench - you need special tools and to be hooked into the special dealer software, etc. As long as you are willing and able to pay the dealer rates it's great.

    The other thing is that the competition catches up eventually. When the iPhone came out there was nothing like it, but today a top of the line Android phone is really not that different from one.
    , @MBlanc46
    So the only thing that Woz ever did was the thing that put Apple on the map.
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  96. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    OT: Similar to the Women's March in DC after Trump was elected, blacks are pushing out nice whites and demanding that the focus of school shootings stop being on white people and, finally for once, be on black people who never get any attention.

    https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/3/14/17120796/national-school-walkout-race-gun-violence-protests


    This leads to a larger question about who gets empathy in America, which issues are deemed important, and the types of activism and activists the public responds to.
     
    Who, whom.

    Students at Brooklyn’s Academy of Young Writers dedicated their walkout to both the Parkland victims and black men and women killed in police shootings in recent years.

    “The black community has been faced with lots of violence all the time,” Zayinab Jagun, a 17-year-old student, told reporters.
     

    Passive voice much. Active voice is a tad problematic so I can see why this young man avoids it.

    Also, what the hell is the Brooklyn Academy of Young Writers? Is that a high school?


    And experts on race and school discipline have noted that recent efforts to improve school safety and calls to arm teachers have largely ignored how increased discipline would affect students of color, and overlook the fact that school shootings like Parkland are rare in communities of color.
     
    Hmm. I feel as though trying to reduce racial disparities in school discipline might have helped cause the Parkland shootings.

    The current school safety debate “is about protecting the narrative that white suburban schools are places of safety and preserving the idea that violence is elsewhere, that black and Latino youth represent danger,” Stacey Patton, an assistant professor at Morgan State University, recently wrote in the Washington Post.
     
    Calling all Nice White Ladies and their kids, blacks are getting increasingly sick of you and your demand to hog some of the victim attention.

    The students themselves are eager to change the narrative and expand the conversation.
     
    Yes, I'm quite sure that blacks would throughly enjoy a spirited debate on the causes of violence in their neighborhoods.

    The Coalition of the Fringes is getting restless. With white men nearly purged from its ranks, white women and white kids are next in line for being told to move to the back of bus.

    Good.

    Long before people were talking about “safe spaces” I had said that segregation was in the end simply a means of giving blacks the space they needed to act obnoxiously without causing ruckus for the rest of us. Of course, in the interest of political correctness we should admit that it would be nice if such a configuration could be revived with quick and easy means to tell apart the (dwindling but still significant) minority of blacks who do in fact wish to act white and lead something like a paisible life.

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  97. @sabril
    Probably you are saying that because you are used to dating supermodels.

    Probably you are saying that because you are used to dating supermodels.

    No, but my wife was a catalog model in college (not JCrew, but similar). I actually don’t think super models are the best looking women in the world. They tend to have certain sharp and/or unusual features that photograph well. They “pop out.” Mind you, I am NOT saying that they are unattractive. Just not as super good-looking as media hype makes them out to be.

    To me, anyway (and not just because my wife was one), catalog models have much more pleasing, softer “girl next door” looks.

    But that’s not why I married my wife, as attractive as she was and still is. I liked that she was high IQ (STEM doctorate), a superb athlete (was top ten in the world at one point), and most importantly had (and still has) very traditional Christian values.

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    I also married a beautiful PhD Olympic athlete virgin. There must be dozens of us!
    , @D. K.
    I find that the most attractive female models, as a group, are the ones on the women's hair-coloring boxes. Runway models, these days, tend to be rather-unattractive freaks-- seemingly chosen because they are exceptionally tall, uncomfortably skinny, virtually flat-chested Slavic girls, with long, straight, mousy-brown hair.
    , @sabril

    No, but my wife was a catalog model in college (not JCrew, but similar). I actually don’t think super models are the best looking women in the world
     
    Lol, I was just kidding. See, whenever an attractive woman is discussed on a blog like this, inevitably guys will show up to nitpick her looks in order to demonstrate how awesomely alpha they are.
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  98. Steve Job’s biological father was Syrian. Doesn’t that make him, according to current cultural trends, a “person of color” ?

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  99. @Forbes
    $10M? Out of her paycheck? I doubt she was paid half that in 10 years. Her "wealth" or "net worth" were all on paper, based on capital raise valuations. You can't spend or save paper gains any more than you can spend hot air. She was a Silicon Valley fraud from the get-go. She had an idea based on her imagination that couldn't be engineered because there was no science behind it. Nobody looked into the science (due diligence) because they were convinced she was the next Steve Jobs, or whomever...

    It was marketing and salesmanship, not technology.

    It’s not unknown for top executives to be allowed to sell some of their stock to investors in a financing round (in tandem with the company issuing new stock for new investors).

    Just don’t sell too much or it looks bad.

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  100. @Anonymous
    Yes it absolutely counts as white . Have you not seen alt right guys absolutely swooning over red headed Bashar Assad and his pale white skin ?

    You would think he was a topless Putin,he gets so much love from the WN community.

    Sure its partly that they drool over anyone who hates Jews . Still they consider him white.

    A huge fave are his pastel dressed Easter pics with his wife and 4 kids. The WN ideal they can never achieve ( females hate wn dudes).

    Have you not seen alt right guys absolutely swooning over red headed Bashar Assad and his pale white skin ?

    Lol, Assad is all-right.

    Sure its partly that they drool over anyone who hates Jews . Still they consider him white.

    Well, he’s approximately as white as a Jew.

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  101. @The Last Real Calvinist
    At about 2:00 mark her voice comes back up into a closer-to-normal female range.

    In her later videos, she keeps her voice down in that uncanny-valley low range, and she develops a weird pattern where she severely clips the word or syllable at the end of a phrase.

    Maybe she's working really really hard to avoid uptalk?

    Or maybe she went to a speech coach who tried to get her to model her delivery on The Bestest Orator in Human History, i.e. Barack Obama, because that's who she sounds like. See this video as an example of what I mean:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG-IZa-aTqk&feature=youtu.be

    She has a weird voice. Trannies say thanks. That masculine vocal fry voice( not Holmes, she’s weirder) hasn’t gone away in professional girls. A funny manifestation.

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  102. @Dmitry
    Her speaking style in the video reminds of even more autistic version of Mark Zuckerberg.

    Also similar kind of robotic stare into camera - of at least photographers inspired to make them pose in similarly robotic style.

    http://m.wsj.net/video/20160708/070816theranos/070816theranos_1280x720.jpg

    https://academic-writing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/MarkZuckerberg-featured1-770x330.jpg

    Ha ha, her eyes are a bit too perfectly robotical though, with that ring of light around the pupil. I wonder if they were shopped? No, closer up it looks like it’s actually the overhead lighting. Someone did a bit of thinking when posing that shot.

    Great photo, in its genre.

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  103. @Tiny Duck
    Being a woman does not help, in fact it makes things ten times harder. But wealth and political connections probably helped her stay out of prison despite her proven fraud and risking people’s lives

    She made the same mistake Shkreli made: she defrauded wealthy investors. Had she stuck to the poor and middle classes, she would have not only been fine but been highly rewarded for her scam.

    For example, she should have opened up a phony university, hired boiler room sales staff and high pressured the naive, desperate, and confused to max out their credit cards for tens of thousands of dollars for useless "inside" information anyone can get with a quick Google search. She should have then looted the funds, funneling the vast bulk of them into her private bank accounts, while cheating the builders, staff, and other contractors out of their pay, then bankrupting the "university". After a lackluster "investigation" by federal authorities, she would be fined $25 million, which would glean her a handsome $150 million profit for ripping off the poor and middle classes. She would then by touted as a "brilliant deal maker" and who knows, maybe even elected to higher office, perhaps even the presidency.
    I know you think it's absurdly far fetched, but I think these criminal tactics have worked well for others before.
    Well, at least one person I can think of immediately

    She now has the perfect resume to join the Trump administration.

    Whoa, whoa, did you and Leonard Pitts get a divorce?

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  104. @Rod1963
    Very smart game player/predator. By hanging around the VC set she learned what they are looking for and how to talk to them(both of which are very important). So when she decided to set up shop the rest was easy.

    Presentation wise she comes off as insincere - personally she sets off all sorts of alarms in me. Which says "don't trust her". Why? Because most geeks don't normally think and talk like that. The only people who think like her are high functioning sociopaths/grifters.

    It's most explicit in her choice of board members - lonely old men with no science or tech background. Hence easily led around yet gives the company serious gravitas to superficial investors. Perfect patsies.

    Even though she got busted she's scary smart and manipulative as can be. She'll be back scamming people in no time.

    I knew she was a fraud because women have never produced innovation and never will

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  105. “Our elites really believe the conventional wisdom that there must be all this discriminated against non-white male talent out there.”

    No, they really don’t. They were simply hoodwinked by a pretty blonde girl. No need to over-complicate things.

    Did any female investors / VCs fall for Holmes’ patter?

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  106. @notice
    My mom was a nurse (retired). Mom knew immediately that a device that extracted blood from a fingertip would not yield the same results as a needle-extracting-blood-from-veins because capillary blood isn't necessarily exactly the same as blood as in deeper tissues that a physician needs to examine.

    People know their businesses. Gen. Mattis has forgotten more about military procedures and strategies than I will ever know, but my former nurse mother knows more about hospital-stuff than he does. One wonders if Theranos was well-meaning and "just sure" that this approach could be made to work because she convinced herself on "feelgoodz", and didn't (at first) intend to defraud anyone. I would not wanna cross Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, Bill Perry, and James Mattis.

    Yes. The gauge of the needle matters. Sort of a Schrödinger’s cat thing.

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  107. @Arclight
    I still find it remarkable that she attracted the board Theranos assembled - there is still a lot more to this story.

    When you can’t question people because of their identity, those people will run a lot of scams.

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  108. @Anonymous
    As big an advance as the Apple II was (the modern PC is its direct descendant in that it has a motherboard architecture ) it was the only thing Apple did Woz was a key player on. The Mac involved a lot of people, but Woz was not a key player, nor was he in the company at all for the iPod, iPad and iPhone, and had nothing to do with Pixar or NeXT.

    Jobs was not a codehead and his electronic skills were at a hobbyist level circa 1975, but in fairness to him, he was a "style fascist" with a clear vision of what he wanted and he got it done. The modern smartphone with an interface that is operated by fingers alone, was his idea. Previous attempts meant hard keys or a stylus, both of which were anathema to him.

    NeXT was his idea, and while it had flaws, it was in 1994 radically the best user interface and environment for a desktop computer in existence. I was a NeXT user and also a Newton user, which was not his idea and which he essentially took out in back and shot in the head. Newton was a great tool, but in the end, iOS devices are in most ways superior for daily use. Clear adherence to his vision meant there were problems with Apple products, but they also worked very well for most users and most of his bad ideas were ameliorated by people around him to a greater or lesser extent.

    Certainly he was a martinet, in the manner of Ettore Bugatti, and certainly he was occasionally ruthless and cruel. But in the end, in a world where customers could choose his products or alternate ones, he moved the art forward, and sometimes not in a small way. People pay a premium for Apple products not so much for prestige but because they work better than the competition for their purposes.

    Android, for instance, is more versatile than iOS and enables technically savvy users to do more things and sometimes much easier-plug an Android phone into a Windows PC via USB and you can search the directories and copy stuff over as if it were a jump drive, where with iOS you have to use third party software and even then can't transfer some things very easily. But Android is tough to support unfacile users with, for several reasons, whereas iOS is very simple to talk anyone through doing anything Apple intends for you to do. And iPhones are generally better built than most Android phones, and have far fewer technical issues.

    Jobs made hand-holding products for adventurous children. No wonder they’re so fashionable.

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  109. @anon

    What difference does it make if they raped them first?
     
    Silvio Berlusconi has a joke to tell you. ;)

    JackD: What difference does it make if [Wehrmacht invaders] raped them [Russian civilians] first [before murduring them]?

    anon: Silvio Berlusconi has a joke to tell you. ;)

    Good one! Please pick a handle before cracking wise again. Then I can use Unz’ Follow Commenter feature, as I do for Tiny Duck.

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  110. @Ali Choudhury
    Steve Jobs was half Syrian Muslim. Does that count as being white?

    It depends. If he is to be blamed for something or hurt someone’s feelings, then he is white. If he is to be celebrated, then he is a POC. Simple.

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  111. @JackOH
    "Contrary to the conventional wisdom, Old White Men actually like young blonde women."

    Steve, I had a momentary brain fumble that had me reading that line as:

    "Contrary to the conventional wisdom, Old White Men actually act like young blonde women."

    I mentally agreed to some essential truth in the idea that old and not so old White guys have gone, y'know, like, uh, major ditzy blonde in their patterns of thought and behavior. I congratulated you on your guru-like insight into how crap-ified our White elites are.

    Then, after a millisecond, I read that sentence as you actually published it.

    My brain-fumbled version of your sentence makes more sense.:)

    “No fool like an old fool” – do you have that saying on your side of the pond? Particularly when a slender young blonde is in the picture.

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  112. @notice
    My mom was a nurse (retired). Mom knew immediately that a device that extracted blood from a fingertip would not yield the same results as a needle-extracting-blood-from-veins because capillary blood isn't necessarily exactly the same as blood as in deeper tissues that a physician needs to examine.

    People know their businesses. Gen. Mattis has forgotten more about military procedures and strategies than I will ever know, but my former nurse mother knows more about hospital-stuff than he does. One wonders if Theranos was well-meaning and "just sure" that this approach could be made to work because she convinced herself on "feelgoodz", and didn't (at first) intend to defraud anyone. I would not wanna cross Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, Bill Perry, and James Mattis.

    ditto, notice. My sister is a longtime hospital laboratory manager. Long story short: venous vs. capillary, and sufficient quantity of blood to allow it to be centrifuged into serum and other components for some tests.

    I would have thought due diligence wouldn’t be all that difficult. Where’s the patent? Where’s the prototype analyzer? Where’s the supporting research?

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  113. @Ali Choudhury
    Steve Jobs was half Syrian Muslim. Does that count as being white?

    Whitish. Syrians, Lebanese the Levant generally heavily Hellenic for long periods of history. He had a vaguely other appearance but raised by white people and intermarried with Europeans. Im sure to his children its a bit like saying I had a spanish grandmother on one side ! : )

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  114. @Jack D
    The Germans killed AT LEAST 20,000,000 Soviet citizens. According to some estimates, it may be as much as 40,000,000 (the Communists had their own reasons for understating the casualties). What difference does it make if they raped them first?

    “What difference does it make if they raped them first?”

    Listen to yourself.

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  115. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theranos#Bad_Blood

    The Wall Street Journal investigative reporter John Carreyrou was responsible for uncovering and exposing “that the company was, in effect, a sham”.[113] For this he received the 67th annual George Polk Awards in Journalism for Financial Reporting (2015). He will be publishing a book-length treatment in 2018 titled Bad Blood, and a film version is in the works starring Jennifer Lawrence as Elizabeth Holmes, to be directed by Adam McKay.[114]

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  116. @anon
    Were German troops told: "When you capture this Polish/Russian/Czech town, rape the women, and when you're done raping them, kill them?" as Ehrenburg told the Soviet Army to do to German women? Do we have records of this?

    Were German troops told: “When you capture this Polish/Russian/Czech town, rape the women, and when you’re done raping them, kill them?” as Ehrenburg told the Soviet Army to do to German women?

    Ehrenburg never said that. This is your fantasy.

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  117. With Carlos Slim, Billionaire Elizabeth Holmes Brings Innovative Blood Testing Method To Mexico
    Jun 22, 2015

    Mexican tycoon Carlos Slim Helú and Elizabeth Holmes, the world’s youngest female billionaire, whose Theranos blood testing company was valued at $9 billion last year, are forming a not-for-profit alliance aimed at improving blood testing for a larger portion of the Mexican population, the Carlos Slim Foundation announced on Monday.

    With Slim Helú at her side, Holmes, founder and CEO of Theranos, said in Mexico City that with the technology her company has developed, it is possible to carry out, with a single drop of blood drawn with a pin prick and next to no pain, a very broad number of lab tests at very low cost, making it an accessible method for the entire population.

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  118. So, what what does Elizabeth Holmes’ Theranos scandal reveals about the Deep State? If I understand Steve’s answer correctly, it reveals that old Deep State men like attractive women.

    That’s reassuring.

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  119. @Zach
    A commenter at Zerohedge writes:

    Martin Shkreli = 7 years, $7.5M fine
    Investor capital lost = ~$0
    Elizabeth Holmes = $500k fine, D&O bar
    Company value lost = ~$8 billion

    Mr. Shkreli has that Damien from “The Omen” smirk on his face. People would like to see him trip and plant his face where a dog had gone. That is why he got such a rough sentence.

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  120. Or consider the possibility that the entire Theranos saga was simply a deep state ruse designed to collect DNA profiles of the population. Her parents were both CIA. The BoD looked like who’s who of the deep state–lots of security and intel experience but no medical credentials. Product was not viable from the beginning, yet money magically poured into the project until it all collapsed.

    And coincidentally it collapsed right about the time 23 and Me took off like a rocket, making Theranos largely unnecessary to the deep state.

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  121. @syonredux

    Jobs’s bio mother was ethnic German. So were his adoptive parents.
     
    Adoptive father was of German descent; his adoptive mother was Armenian:

    Steve’s biological father, Abdulfattah John Jandali, is a Syrian Muslim, from Homs. Steve’s biological mother, Joanne Carole (Schieble), was an American of Swiss-German and German descent. The two met in Wisconsin, where Joanne was from, while Abdulfattah was there as a student. Because of family objections to the couple, they did not initially marry. His biological mother gave him up for adoption. His biological parents later married and had another child, writer Mona Simpson.

     


    Steve was adopted by a California couple, Clara (Hagopian) and Paul Reinhold Jobs. Paul was of German descent, and was the son of Edwin A. Jobs and Clara B. Clara Hagopian was of Armenian ancestry, and was the daughter of Louis Hagopian and Victoria Artinian.
     
    http://ethnicelebs.com/steve-jobs

    Steve Jobs' biological father:


    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/30/article-0-0DA06C2C00000578-958_224x381.jpg

    The resemblance is eerie.

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  122. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    OT: Similar to the Women's March in DC after Trump was elected, blacks are pushing out nice whites and demanding that the focus of school shootings stop being on white people and, finally for once, be on black people who never get any attention.

    https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/3/14/17120796/national-school-walkout-race-gun-violence-protests


    This leads to a larger question about who gets empathy in America, which issues are deemed important, and the types of activism and activists the public responds to.
     
    Who, whom.

    Students at Brooklyn’s Academy of Young Writers dedicated their walkout to both the Parkland victims and black men and women killed in police shootings in recent years.

    “The black community has been faced with lots of violence all the time,” Zayinab Jagun, a 17-year-old student, told reporters.
     

    Passive voice much. Active voice is a tad problematic so I can see why this young man avoids it.

    Also, what the hell is the Brooklyn Academy of Young Writers? Is that a high school?


    And experts on race and school discipline have noted that recent efforts to improve school safety and calls to arm teachers have largely ignored how increased discipline would affect students of color, and overlook the fact that school shootings like Parkland are rare in communities of color.
     
    Hmm. I feel as though trying to reduce racial disparities in school discipline might have helped cause the Parkland shootings.

    The current school safety debate “is about protecting the narrative that white suburban schools are places of safety and preserving the idea that violence is elsewhere, that black and Latino youth represent danger,” Stacey Patton, an assistant professor at Morgan State University, recently wrote in the Washington Post.
     
    Calling all Nice White Ladies and their kids, blacks are getting increasingly sick of you and your demand to hog some of the victim attention.

    The students themselves are eager to change the narrative and expand the conversation.
     
    Yes, I'm quite sure that blacks would throughly enjoy a spirited debate on the causes of violence in their neighborhoods.

    The Coalition of the Fringes is getting restless. With white men nearly purged from its ranks, white women and white kids are next in line for being told to move to the back of bus.

    Good.

    And experts on race and school discipline have noted that recent efforts to improve school safety and calls to arm teachers have largely ignored how increased discipline would affect students of color, and overlook the fact that school shootings like Parkland are rare in communities of color.

    These experts are quite racist for assuming that increased discipline will have a bigger impact on non white students.

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  123. @map
    Sure...

    Or you could sell 20% of America's uranium supply to a potential enemy for a cool $120 million.

    Right, and not get fined or anything.. not even be investigated.

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  124. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT
    Australia bans fully semi-automatic bolt-action assaulty rifles.

    Bolt-action rifle ordered turned in by Australian officials as it’s too ‘assaulty’

    Australia bans fully semi-automatic bolt-action assaulty rifles.

    I’ll bet they secretly think that with a bump stock it would be fully automatic. I used to think Aussies had extraordinary common sense. I could not have been more wrong.

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  125. @Jack D
    The Germans killed AT LEAST 20,000,000 Soviet citizens. According to some estimates, it may be as much as 40,000,000 (the Communists had their own reasons for understating the casualties). What difference does it make if they raped them first?

    What difference does it make if they raped them first?

    Oh come on. Person A is shot and dies a quick death. Person B is tortured and then murdered. No one prefers the experience of B to A.

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  126. @Thomm

    A huge fave are his pastel dressed Easter pics with his wife and 4 kids. The WN ideal they can never achieve ( females hate wn dudes).
     
    This is of course true. You should repeat this message often, under a handle other than 'Anonymous'.

    I’m sure there’s a great reason why this “message” is so dear to your heart.

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  127. @notice
    My mom was a nurse (retired). Mom knew immediately that a device that extracted blood from a fingertip would not yield the same results as a needle-extracting-blood-from-veins because capillary blood isn't necessarily exactly the same as blood as in deeper tissues that a physician needs to examine.

    People know their businesses. Gen. Mattis has forgotten more about military procedures and strategies than I will ever know, but my former nurse mother knows more about hospital-stuff than he does. One wonders if Theranos was well-meaning and "just sure" that this approach could be made to work because she convinced herself on "feelgoodz", and didn't (at first) intend to defraud anyone. I would not wanna cross Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, Bill Perry, and James Mattis.

    Political heavy hitters are not selected as board members for their expertise, this is purely influence peddling. It is why you see people like these folks and the Clintons on the boards of companies doing businesses they know absolutely nothing about. The Beltway celebrity members bring credibility for raising money from real investors, their Rolodexes of contacts, and can make regulators shy away from looking too critically at the company.
    In return the members don’t have to put their own money in to it and get massive stock options for a couple of days a year of meetings. If the company goes public they cash in big time. It’s a form of celebrity endorsement, like having your name put on a perfume or basketball shoes. You don’t need to know anything about making those products.
    If the company doesn’t make it only the suckers get hurt. Holmes got off easy despite crossing Kissinger, Shultz et al by embarrassing them publicly.

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  128. Trump Must Fire Pentagon Bureaucrat Jim Mattis Immediately

    Pentagon Bureaucrat Jim Mattis took big bucks from crooked crook Elizabeth Holmes to occupy a seat on the corporate board of Theranos. Jim Mattis is a bureaucrat dirtbag who should be fired immediately.

    Jim Mattis is a treasonous rat who pushes nation-wrecking mass immigration and multiculturalism. Jim Mattis continues to push for the promiscuous misuse of the United States military.

    Jim Mattis was most likely one of the moron US Marine officers just begging to be sent into land-locked Afghanistan so as to attain some fading imperial glory.

    Jim Mattis was born in 1950 in the sweetspot for treasonous rat baby boomers. Patriots in the United States have to begin removing dirtbags born before 1965 from power in the United States.

    Jim Mattis, Bill Clinton, George W Bush, Hillary Clinton and all the other baby boomer scumbags born in that evil sweetspot for treason must be removed from power.

    In a four hour debate on immigration, multiculturalism and foreign interventionism, I would rhetorically eviscerate that treasonous rat Jim Mattis.

    MATTIS MUST GO

    FIRE MATTIS NOW

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  129. @Twinkie

    Probably you are saying that because you are used to dating supermodels.
     
    No, but my wife was a catalog model in college (not JCrew, but similar). I actually don't think super models are the best looking women in the world. They tend to have certain sharp and/or unusual features that photograph well. They "pop out." Mind you, I am NOT saying that they are unattractive. Just not as super good-looking as media hype makes them out to be.

    To me, anyway (and not just because my wife was one), catalog models have much more pleasing, softer "girl next door" looks.

    But that's not why I married my wife, as attractive as she was and still is. I liked that she was high IQ (STEM doctorate), a superb athlete (was top ten in the world at one point), and most importantly had (and still has) very traditional Christian values.

    I also married a beautiful PhD Olympic athlete virgin. There must be dozens of us!

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    1. She didn’t have a doctorate when I married her. 2. Her event is not in the Olympics (a variation is). 3. She had to get up at 5:30 am each morning to train and couldn’t drink alcohol. She was too tired after training, trying to keep up her grades, and working at church (she minded the children) to engage in any mischief.

    In high school she worked three jobs. Worked at a bank after school and practice. Worked retail during the weekend. And worked at a farm during the summers. She was, and is, extremely driven.

    On vacation, I like to relax, but she has to do everything under the sun. It’s exhausting sometimes to be with her. :)
    , @sabril
    Yes, me too. And when ugly people like Holmes are discussed, it gives me the opportunity to brag about it.

    For me, Holmes is about a 2/10.
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  130. @Anonymous
    As big an advance as the Apple II was (the modern PC is its direct descendant in that it has a motherboard architecture ) it was the only thing Apple did Woz was a key player on. The Mac involved a lot of people, but Woz was not a key player, nor was he in the company at all for the iPod, iPad and iPhone, and had nothing to do with Pixar or NeXT.

    Jobs was not a codehead and his electronic skills were at a hobbyist level circa 1975, but in fairness to him, he was a "style fascist" with a clear vision of what he wanted and he got it done. The modern smartphone with an interface that is operated by fingers alone, was his idea. Previous attempts meant hard keys or a stylus, both of which were anathema to him.

    NeXT was his idea, and while it had flaws, it was in 1994 radically the best user interface and environment for a desktop computer in existence. I was a NeXT user and also a Newton user, which was not his idea and which he essentially took out in back and shot in the head. Newton was a great tool, but in the end, iOS devices are in most ways superior for daily use. Clear adherence to his vision meant there were problems with Apple products, but they also worked very well for most users and most of his bad ideas were ameliorated by people around him to a greater or lesser extent.

    Certainly he was a martinet, in the manner of Ettore Bugatti, and certainly he was occasionally ruthless and cruel. But in the end, in a world where customers could choose his products or alternate ones, he moved the art forward, and sometimes not in a small way. People pay a premium for Apple products not so much for prestige but because they work better than the competition for their purposes.

    Android, for instance, is more versatile than iOS and enables technically savvy users to do more things and sometimes much easier-plug an Android phone into a Windows PC via USB and you can search the directories and copy stuff over as if it were a jump drive, where with iOS you have to use third party software and even then can't transfer some things very easily. But Android is tough to support unfacile users with, for several reasons, whereas iOS is very simple to talk anyone through doing anything Apple intends for you to do. And iPhones are generally better built than most Android phones, and have far fewer technical issues.

    People pay a premium for Apple products not so much for prestige but because they work better than the competition for their purposes.

    For certain people and certain purposes.

    Apple products tend to appeal to people without technical sophistication because they hide the nuts and bolts behind a slick facade. As long as you are willing to leave all the decisions up to Apple and go along with doing it Steve Jobs’s way, it’s great. It’s sort of like a modern luxury car -when you lift the hood, you don’t even see an engine but a plastic cover that hides what is underneath. You aren’t supposed to be digging in there and changing the spark plugs yourself – you are supposed to leave it to the pros. You can’t just use your old socket wrench – you need special tools and to be hooked into the special dealer software, etc. As long as you are willing and able to pay the dealer rates it’s great.

    The other thing is that the competition catches up eventually. When the iPhone came out there was nothing like it, but today a top of the line Android phone is really not that different from one.

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    This is a common misconception. Mac laptops are very popular with programmers, because they're based on Unix (BSD) and tend to take much less time to maintain and administer than Windows machines.

    Of course, there's also the fact that computer science nerds have long tended to have a powerful disdain for Windows.

    At my company, most of the programmers and many of the engineers have Macs, because they tend to be more productive (and happier) on Macs. CAD users and technicians tend to get Windows machines, mostly because until recently, almost all modern CAD software ran on Windows only.

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  131. @sabril
    There is a distinction between feminism and gynocentrism albeit with a lot of overlap. The idea of putting women first is as old as the hills; long before women had the vote they enjoyed a protected position in society. Which makes sense, since women are the limiting factor in a culture's ability to sustain itself demographically. Probably at this point the urge to protect women -- especially young attractive women -- is in our DNA.

    The other thing to consider is that there's a good chance that Holmes was for the most part window dressing. If I were pushing some kind of tech startup I would be tempted to find a girl to use in this way. The amount of positive attention automatically received by pretty girls is probably something like 100 to 1 when compared to an average- looking man. I believe that Halfsigma demostrated this a few years back with his "Libertarian Girl" hoax, in which he started a political blog pretending to be a pretty blond girl.

    One thing I learned from this blog is how easy attractive woman have it. When I had a blog as my real self, no one linked to me, no one left any comments, it was as if the blog existed in a vacuum. But things were different for Libertarian Girl. Every day I’d check Technorati and discover new unsolicited links. It was like I had warped into an alternate universe where all the rules had changed.
     

    If there was a hidden white guy pulling the strings for Holmes, I think we would know it by now – for one thing she would have dropped a dime on him so fast it would make your head spin. But she really seems to be the mastermind here. It’s sort of hard to accept because women don’t tend to mastermind Ponzi schemes but she was the rare exception. Based on the low voice and strange affect, etc. she is probably a hormonal outlier and not a typical female.

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  132. The Deep State board members may have been selected to bedazzle Federal regulators and attract government contracts for Holme’s cargo cult blood testing gizmo. Looks like Theranos generated cash flow from Medicare and Medicaid payments for shoddy lab testing while they were trying to invent their magic box. Thankfully, DOD and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid were on the ball and saw through the BS.

    https://imgur.com/r/thesimpsons/UH80IC1

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  133. @dried peanuts
    Solzhenitysyn says somewhere that "fraternization" with slavic women was allowed, but that german women could be killed. But remember, regardless of orders, discipline was a huge problem for the soviets. A lot of guys were totally out of control. They had roving NKVD squads trying to get to bank vaults and safes before the front-line troops blew them up with captured panzerfausts. The eastern front was no place for a woman.

    Aside from raping women, the Russians also were wont to carry off everything that wasn’t nailed down and many things that were, starting with wristwatches and extending all the way to entire factories. Even Zhukov sent trainloads of war goodies home from Berlin for his personal use. And this was aside from the official “reparations”. It wasn’t as if the average Soviet soldier could go “shopping” back home – even if consumer goods were available (which they rarely were) Soviet salaries did not cover much beyond the basics. So this was a once in a lifetime opportunity to acquire goods.

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    I hear German toilets were a hot commodity.
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  134. @Art Deco
    I didn't quite realize the one time in the past I saw an article about this woman that she's this generation's Barry Minkow. Amazing amount of energy and audacity has to go into these scams.

    Great pointer, Art. There’s a movie out about his life called Con Man. Never heard of Barry Minkow but it sounds like he’s a master. we’ll see if a movie shows up about this Holmes woman.

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    Rest assured there will be a film about Liz Holmes. She will however be portrayed (in an unexpected plot twist!!) as the real victim whose vibranium based technological Great Leap Forward was betrayed by rapacious old white men. She will be played by Jennifer Lawrence.
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  135. @Lagertha
    His biological father was an Armenian who grew up in Syria (after the Armenian massacre in 1915, Armenians ran for their lives (if not marched to their deaths) to all the Middle Eastern countries of today. I obviously, have many Armenian connections, which you know. But, I do not know the exact connection of Jobs' bio father's family ties in Syria via Armenia. And, none of that matters anymore, duh, right?

    You are confused. Jobs’s adoptive mother was Armenian (nee Hagopian – a common Armenian name).

    Jobs’s biological father, Jandali, is an Arab Muslim. Syrians (and Lebanese), especially ones from the upper classes (such as Jandali, Assad, etc.) more so than other Arabs, tend to be white. The average Arab is nothing to write home about intellectually but Jandali has a PhD and is a pretty smart guy. His father (Jobs’s grandfather) was a self-made millionaire. His biological sister (his birth mother and father later married and had another child) is a successful novelist and professor. So that he was an intelligent person too is not exactly a big shocker.

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    I was referring to Job's grandfather's wife, who was Armenian...but sorry, his bio grandfather still has a sketchy past as far as genes. Armenia is still one of the last matriarchal nations ( like Iceland - more women survive, duh)...it is diminishing these days, they got Silver in the O's (skating under Russia) but, heck, Armenia exists! They all claim, Steve is enough Armenian. Armenia: oldest Christian country in the world! And, they are surrounded by hostile Turkey and its satellite Muslim countries.
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  136. @jJay
    My adoptive parents were of almost the exact same ethnic makeup as me. ( I posted my 23andme results here). The Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary made that placement decision in 1960.

    Nikolas Cruz is white. George Zimmerman is not. Some dissident right commentary on the Parkland shooting have botched this. I'm looking at you, Derb.

    I wouldn’t be so eager to claim Cruz for the white team. His half brother is (half) black. His mother is apparently some kind of crack whore who would sleep with random strangers so probably no one knows who his real father is. National Geographic gives us photographic proof that the union of a black man and a white woman can produce both a white and a black child in the same pregnancy, so who knows what Cruz’s actual race is.

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    If his adoptive surname were not Spanish, no one would look at Cruz' picture and assume that he is anything other than an American of European descent. He does claim, however, to be related to you, Jack, by matrilineal descent; so, whether that makes him non-White or not is, I suppose, an open question!?!
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  137. @Twinkie

    Probably you are saying that because you are used to dating supermodels.
     
    No, but my wife was a catalog model in college (not JCrew, but similar). I actually don't think super models are the best looking women in the world. They tend to have certain sharp and/or unusual features that photograph well. They "pop out." Mind you, I am NOT saying that they are unattractive. Just not as super good-looking as media hype makes them out to be.

    To me, anyway (and not just because my wife was one), catalog models have much more pleasing, softer "girl next door" looks.

    But that's not why I married my wife, as attractive as she was and still is. I liked that she was high IQ (STEM doctorate), a superb athlete (was top ten in the world at one point), and most importantly had (and still has) very traditional Christian values.

    I find that the most attractive female models, as a group, are the ones on the women’s hair-coloring boxes. Runway models, these days, tend to be rather-unattractive freaks– seemingly chosen because they are exceptionally tall, uncomfortably skinny, virtually flat-chested Slavic girls, with long, straight, mousy-brown hair.

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  138. @Jack D
    I wouldn't be so eager to claim Cruz for the white team. His half brother is (half) black. His mother is apparently some kind of crack whore who would sleep with random strangers so probably no one knows who his real father is. National Geographic gives us photographic proof that the union of a black man and a white woman can produce both a white and a black child in the same pregnancy, so who knows what Cruz's actual race is.

    If his adoptive surname were not Spanish, no one would look at Cruz’ picture and assume that he is anything other than an American of European descent. He does claim, however, to be related to you, Jack, by matrilineal descent; so, whether that makes him non-White or not is, I suppose, an open question!?!

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    Cruz is butt-ugly, but he looks more recognizably human than David Hogg:
    https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/nikolas_cruz.png

    https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5a8d9b8d391d9476008b464f-750-375.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A8%D8%AB%D8%A8%D9%82%D9%82.jpg
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  139. @Space Ghost
    I also married a beautiful PhD Olympic athlete virgin. There must be dozens of us!

    1. She didn’t have a doctorate when I married her. 2. Her event is not in the Olympics (a variation is). 3. She had to get up at 5:30 am each morning to train and couldn’t drink alcohol. She was too tired after training, trying to keep up her grades, and working at church (she minded the children) to engage in any mischief.

    In high school she worked three jobs. Worked at a bank after school and practice. Worked retail during the weekend. And worked at a farm during the summers. She was, and is, extremely driven.

    On vacation, I like to relax, but she has to do everything under the sun. It’s exhausting sometimes to be with her. :)

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    You've probably already posted enough here to identify both of you. Might want to slow down.
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  140. @stillCARealist
    Great pointer, Art. There's a movie out about his life called Con Man. Never heard of Barry Minkow but it sounds like he's a master. we'll see if a movie shows up about this Holmes woman.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdiOYh0CRqo

    Rest assured there will be a film about Liz Holmes. She will however be portrayed (in an unexpected plot twist!!) as the real victim whose vibranium based technological Great Leap Forward was betrayed by rapacious old white men. She will be played by Jennifer Lawrence.

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    I think there is a pretty good chance your prediction is correct, except that by the time it happens Jennifer Lawrence would be too old.

    A pretty likely outcome is that a man will invent an actual working pin-prick blood test and feminists will claim that Holmes is the actual inventor of the idea.
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  141. @Twinkie
    https://binged.it/2Io47Bo

    You have low standards for beauty. She's not repulsive, but looks weird and out of proportion.

    I think she’s pretty, but there is something off with her face. I can’t articulate what, though.

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  142. @Twinkie

    Probably you are saying that because you are used to dating supermodels.
     
    No, but my wife was a catalog model in college (not JCrew, but similar). I actually don't think super models are the best looking women in the world. They tend to have certain sharp and/or unusual features that photograph well. They "pop out." Mind you, I am NOT saying that they are unattractive. Just not as super good-looking as media hype makes them out to be.

    To me, anyway (and not just because my wife was one), catalog models have much more pleasing, softer "girl next door" looks.

    But that's not why I married my wife, as attractive as she was and still is. I liked that she was high IQ (STEM doctorate), a superb athlete (was top ten in the world at one point), and most importantly had (and still has) very traditional Christian values.

    No, but my wife was a catalog model in college (not JCrew, but similar). I actually don’t think super models are the best looking women in the world

    Lol, I was just kidding. See, whenever an attractive woman is discussed on a blog like this, inevitably guys will show up to nitpick her looks in order to demonstrate how awesomely alpha they are.

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    See, whenever an attractive woman is discussed on a blog like this, inevitably guys will show up to nitpick her looks in order to demonstrate how awesomely alpha they are.
     
    Again, I don't think she is attractive. Not ugly either, but some facial features are, purely aesthetically-speaking, "off" or unbalanced.

    inevitably guys will show up to nitpick her looks in order to demonstrate how awesomely alpha they are.
     
    I don't buy into all that alpha/beta "manosphere" nonsense. I believe men should be chivalrous. I certainly don't approve of man-whoring. I've been married to my college sweetheart for a quarter century plus. Even if she were to die tomorrow, I don't think I'd ever re-marry or seek another woman. She's the only for me in this earthly life.
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  143. @Space Ghost
    I also married a beautiful PhD Olympic athlete virgin. There must be dozens of us!

    Yes, me too. And when ugly people like Holmes are discussed, it gives me the opportunity to brag about it.

    For me, Holmes is about a 2/10.

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  144. @D. K.
    If his adoptive surname were not Spanish, no one would look at Cruz' picture and assume that he is anything other than an American of European descent. He does claim, however, to be related to you, Jack, by matrilineal descent; so, whether that makes him non-White or not is, I suppose, an open question!?!

    Cruz is butt-ugly, but he looks more recognizably human than David Hogg:

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  145. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT
    Australia bans fully semi-automatic bolt-action assaulty rifles.

    Bolt-action rifle ordered turned in by Australian officials as it’s too ‘assaulty’

    Semi-automatic and bolt action are different.

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  146. Elizabeth Holmes is trying to do a cheap imitation of Sterling Hayden in the video one of the commenters posted. Elizabeth Holmes has the same manner of emphasizing a point with a hmm sound or something similar.

    Could be I brought up Hayden because he has some connections to the US Marines and an outfit that became the CIA and his movie career might have been a front or a lark to infiltrate a bastion of pop culture or maybe Hayden did too many drugs to remember what was what.

    Some other commenter suggested a CIA connection for Elizabeth Holmes. Another had her in a picture with billionaire part-owner of the NY Times, Carlos Slim. Let’s get the Bush organized crime syndicate in there with their CIA connections and their connections to the Mexican ruling class.

    For fun how about George Shultz looking like the cowardly lion, Bert Lahr.

    Sterling Hayden on television:

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  147. @Twinkie
    1. She didn’t have a doctorate when I married her. 2. Her event is not in the Olympics (a variation is). 3. She had to get up at 5:30 am each morning to train and couldn’t drink alcohol. She was too tired after training, trying to keep up her grades, and working at church (she minded the children) to engage in any mischief.

    In high school she worked three jobs. Worked at a bank after school and practice. Worked retail during the weekend. And worked at a farm during the summers. She was, and is, extremely driven.

    On vacation, I like to relax, but she has to do everything under the sun. It’s exhausting sometimes to be with her. :)

    You’ve probably already posted enough here to identify both of you. Might want to slow down.

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    You are right. Certainly my wife wants me to stop wasting time by "arguing with idiots on the internet."

    I usually tell her this is my own vice in life.
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  148. @Mike
    Compare her punishment to Jeffrey Skilling's.

    do they make that turtle neck in orange as the new black?

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  149. @Tyrion 2
    Jobs made hand-holding products for adventurous children. No wonder they're so fashionable.

    Nah, Steve Jobs made simple-to-use products for unadventurous middle-aged people with more money than ability anymore to learn how to futz around with complex new technology. That turned out to be the most lucrative market niche in the world.

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    Steve Jobs made simple-to-use products for unadventurous middle-aged people with more money than ability anymore to learn how to futz around with complex new technology.
     
    Very funny! I used to be very anti-Apple and always insisted on PCs, but about the same time I started to need reading glasses, I started to like the usability of Apple products.
    , @MBlanc46
    A great many of the folks I see with Macs are much younger than I am. Well, okay, most people are younger than I am, but Mac users seem to be 20s and 40s.
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  150. @Dmitry
    Her speaking style in the video reminds of even more autistic version of Mark Zuckerberg.

    Also similar kind of robotic stare into camera - of at least photographers inspired to make them pose in similarly robotic style.

    http://m.wsj.net/video/20160708/070816theranos/070816theranos_1280x720.jpg

    https://academic-writing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/MarkZuckerberg-featured1-770x330.jpg

    Kind of like this dude

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  151. @Daniel H
    Any chance the directors get sued?

    Those big name guys–Kissinger, et al., weren’t actual directors. They were advisory directors. Names purchased for cache. Of course you can sue anyone.

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  152. @kaganovitch
    Rest assured there will be a film about Liz Holmes. She will however be portrayed (in an unexpected plot twist!!) as the real victim whose vibranium based technological Great Leap Forward was betrayed by rapacious old white men. She will be played by Jennifer Lawrence.

    I think there is a pretty good chance your prediction is correct, except that by the time it happens Jennifer Lawrence would be too old.

    A pretty likely outcome is that a man will invent an actual working pin-prick blood test and feminists will claim that Holmes is the actual inventor of the idea.

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  153. @Tiny Duck
    Being a woman does not help, in fact it makes things ten times harder. But wealth and political connections probably helped her stay out of prison despite her proven fraud and risking people’s lives

    She made the same mistake Shkreli made: she defrauded wealthy investors. Had she stuck to the poor and middle classes, she would have not only been fine but been highly rewarded for her scam.

    For example, she should have opened up a phony university, hired boiler room sales staff and high pressured the naive, desperate, and confused to max out their credit cards for tens of thousands of dollars for useless "inside" information anyone can get with a quick Google search. She should have then looted the funds, funneling the vast bulk of them into her private bank accounts, while cheating the builders, staff, and other contractors out of their pay, then bankrupting the "university". After a lackluster "investigation" by federal authorities, she would be fined $25 million, which would glean her a handsome $150 million profit for ripping off the poor and middle classes. She would then by touted as a "brilliant deal maker" and who knows, maybe even elected to higher office, perhaps even the presidency.
    I know you think it's absurdly far fetched, but I think these criminal tactics have worked well for others before.
    Well, at least one person I can think of immediately

    She now has the perfect resume to join the Trump administration.

    What places did you copy n paste from?

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  154. @Twinkie
    https://binged.it/2Io47Bo

    You have low standards for beauty. She's not repulsive, but looks weird and out of proportion.

    As a techno-twit, she’s a 10. Out in the rest of Cali, a 7 at best.

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  155. @Mr. Anon

    I don’t know when well meaning turned to fraud, but apparently her brainstorm was exactly of the “wouldn’t it be nice” variety – “wouldn’t it be nice if you could just prick your finger and do a complete blood panel from a single drop of blood?”
     
    It's as if her whole business plan was the outline of a TED talk.
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  156. @Jack D
    Aside from raping women, the Russians also were wont to carry off everything that wasn't nailed down and many things that were, starting with wristwatches and extending all the way to entire factories. Even Zhukov sent trainloads of war goodies home from Berlin for his personal use. And this was aside from the official "reparations". It wasn't as if the average Soviet soldier could go "shopping" back home - even if consumer goods were available (which they rarely were) Soviet salaries did not cover much beyond the basics. So this was a once in a lifetime opportunity to acquire goods.

    I hear German toilets were a hot commodity.

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  157. Meredith Perry of ubeam is next. She has only bilked investors out of millions not billions and as of yet not jeopardized anyone’s health.

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  158. “The black community has been faced with lots of violence all the time,” Zayinab Jagun, a 17-year-old student, told reporters.

    Passive voice much. Active voice is a tad problematic so I can see why this young man avoids it.

    A fun, quick exercise is to switch group logic to individual logic, and see if it still works:

    “I have been faced with lots of violence” (i.e., he killed lots of people in violent fashion).

    No, it doesn’t work if you aren’t a psychopath. Actually even psychopaths know not to say stuff like that to the press.

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  159. Florida bridge collapse caused by a female engineer:

    http://voxday.blogspot.co.uk/2018/03/hultgreen-curie-architecture-edition.html

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  160. TG says:

    Oh come now. Our society is now almost totally corrupt and she is a ‘success’ as currently defined. Maybe she will get a gig as dean of a big business school, or failing that, she’ll work as a senior advisor at a think tank. Yes there is a ‘deep state’ (I prefer oligarchy) and it protects its own. Regardless, I bet she has already walked away with a tidy bundle.

    So white male bankers totally screwed up their companies – and were rewarded with bailouts and gold-plated pensions. The white males in charge of our endless pointless winless wars just keep raking in the bucks and getting juicy appointments despite failure after failure. And so on.

    Can women be just as corrupt as men? Can they ‘fail their way to the top’ based on political connections and cronyism? Yes they can! Her only real problem was that she didn’t fail big enough to become one of the major players.

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  161. @Chrisnonymous
    You've probably already posted enough here to identify both of you. Might want to slow down.

    You are right. Certainly my wife wants me to stop wasting time by “arguing with idiots on the internet.”

    I usually tell her this is my own vice in life.

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    I usually tell her this is my own vice in life.
     
    I meant "only vice in life."
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  162. @Steve Sailer
    Nah, Steve Jobs made simple-to-use products for unadventurous middle-aged people with more money than ability anymore to learn how to futz around with complex new technology. That turned out to be the most lucrative market niche in the world.

    Steve Jobs made simple-to-use products for unadventurous middle-aged people with more money than ability anymore to learn how to futz around with complex new technology.

    Very funny! I used to be very anti-Apple and always insisted on PCs, but about the same time I started to need reading glasses, I started to like the usability of Apple products.

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  163. @sabril

    No, but my wife was a catalog model in college (not JCrew, but similar). I actually don’t think super models are the best looking women in the world
     
    Lol, I was just kidding. See, whenever an attractive woman is discussed on a blog like this, inevitably guys will show up to nitpick her looks in order to demonstrate how awesomely alpha they are.

    See, whenever an attractive woman is discussed on a blog like this, inevitably guys will show up to nitpick her looks in order to demonstrate how awesomely alpha they are.

    Again, I don’t think she is attractive. Not ugly either, but some facial features are, purely aesthetically-speaking, “off” or unbalanced.

    inevitably guys will show up to nitpick her looks in order to demonstrate how awesomely alpha they are.

    I don’t buy into all that alpha/beta “manosphere” nonsense. I believe men should be chivalrous. I certainly don’t approve of man-whoring. I’ve been married to my college sweetheart for a quarter century plus. Even if she were to die tomorrow, I don’t think I’d ever re-marry or seek another woman. She’s the only for me in this earthly life.

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    Good for you. Your experience, while not unique, is rare. Don’t try to transfer it to the average guy in 2018. Chivalry? Today? Don’t make me laugh. Most American women today don’t deserve any special treatment. Wake up.
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  164. @Twinkie
    You are right. Certainly my wife wants me to stop wasting time by "arguing with idiots on the internet."

    I usually tell her this is my own vice in life.

    I usually tell her this is my own vice in life.

    I meant “only vice in life.”

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  165. Perhaps she should have designed pedestrian, but not ordinary, bridges instead!

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  166. @Jack D

    People pay a premium for Apple products not so much for prestige but because they work better than the competition for their purposes.
     
    For certain people and certain purposes.

    Apple products tend to appeal to people without technical sophistication because they hide the nuts and bolts behind a slick facade. As long as you are willing to leave all the decisions up to Apple and go along with doing it Steve Jobs's way, it's great. It's sort of like a modern luxury car -when you lift the hood, you don't even see an engine but a plastic cover that hides what is underneath. You aren't supposed to be digging in there and changing the spark plugs yourself - you are supposed to leave it to the pros. You can't just use your old socket wrench - you need special tools and to be hooked into the special dealer software, etc. As long as you are willing and able to pay the dealer rates it's great.

    The other thing is that the competition catches up eventually. When the iPhone came out there was nothing like it, but today a top of the line Android phone is really not that different from one.

    This is a common misconception. Mac laptops are very popular with programmers, because they’re based on Unix (BSD) and tend to take much less time to maintain and administer than Windows machines.

    Of course, there’s also the fact that computer science nerds have long tended to have a powerful disdain for Windows.

    At my company, most of the programmers and many of the engineers have Macs, because they tend to be more productive (and happier) on Macs. CAD users and technicians tend to get Windows machines, mostly because until recently, almost all modern CAD software ran on Windows only.

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  167. I certainly don’t approve of man-whoring. I’ve been married to my college sweetheart for a quarter century plus.

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  168. @Twinkie

    See, whenever an attractive woman is discussed on a blog like this, inevitably guys will show up to nitpick her looks in order to demonstrate how awesomely alpha they are.
     
    Again, I don't think she is attractive. Not ugly either, but some facial features are, purely aesthetically-speaking, "off" or unbalanced.

    inevitably guys will show up to nitpick her looks in order to demonstrate how awesomely alpha they are.
     
    I don't buy into all that alpha/beta "manosphere" nonsense. I believe men should be chivalrous. I certainly don't approve of man-whoring. I've been married to my college sweetheart for a quarter century plus. Even if she were to die tomorrow, I don't think I'd ever re-marry or seek another woman. She's the only for me in this earthly life.

    Good for you. Your experience, while not unique, is rare. Don’t try to transfer it to the average guy in 2018. Chivalry? Today? Don’t make me laugh. Most American women today don’t deserve any special treatment. Wake up.

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    They don’t deserve it and they say they don’t want it.
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  169. @Twinkie

    She is a Steve Jobs without a Steve Wozniak, if Jobs was a woman and had extra boosters because of it.
     
    That's what I was thinking. She might have Jobs' fashion sense, but does she have her own Woz? You know, the guy (or gal) who makes an actual product? Who's her Woz? Is s/he still alive?

    Her “Woz” (the inventor with the actual talent) failed to make the product work and killed himself.

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  170. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jJay
    My adoptive parents were of almost the exact same ethnic makeup as me. ( I posted my 23andme results here). The Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary made that placement decision in 1960.

    Nikolas Cruz is white. George Zimmerman is not. Some dissident right commentary on the Parkland shooting have botched this. I'm looking at you, Derb.

    The simple fact is that leftists are to some degree right when they claim that race is “socially constructed”. Of course they are not 100% right. That is obvious. Almost everyone here agrees on that. But they are still right to some degree, and their error lies simply in the suggestion that because they are not completely wrong, they must be completely right.

    Most readers here are going to judge Nikolas Cruz and George Zimmerman in ways that are at least partially shaped by cultural and social considerations, even if they also strive to take a look at their biological origins. I see no problem with this. The problem comes when people seek to dismiss biology completely.

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  171. @Twinkie
    https://binged.it/2Io47Bo

    You have low standards for beauty. She's not repulsive, but looks weird and out of proportion.

    In that image she kinda reminds me of Mark Zuckerberg:

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  172. @Jack D
    You are confused. Jobs's adoptive mother was Armenian (nee Hagopian - a common Armenian name).

    Jobs's biological father, Jandali, is an Arab Muslim. Syrians (and Lebanese), especially ones from the upper classes (such as Jandali, Assad, etc.) more so than other Arabs, tend to be white. The average Arab is nothing to write home about intellectually but Jandali has a PhD and is a pretty smart guy. His father (Jobs's grandfather) was a self-made millionaire. His biological sister (his birth mother and father later married and had another child) is a successful novelist and professor. So that he was an intelligent person too is not exactly a big shocker.

    I was referring to Job’s grandfather’s wife, who was Armenian…but sorry, his bio grandfather still has a sketchy past as far as genes. Armenia is still one of the last matriarchal nations ( like Iceland – more women survive, duh)…it is diminishing these days, they got Silver in the O’s (skating under Russia) but, heck, Armenia exists! They all claim, Steve is enough Armenian. Armenia: oldest Christian country in the world! And, they are surrounded by hostile Turkey and its satellite Muslim countries.

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  173. @Ali Choudhury
    Steve Jobs was half Syrian Muslim. Does that count as being white?

    It’s depends on his admixture. The Levant is much whiter than the majority of the Arab world.

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  174. @Anonymous
    As big an advance as the Apple II was (the modern PC is its direct descendant in that it has a motherboard architecture ) it was the only thing Apple did Woz was a key player on. The Mac involved a lot of people, but Woz was not a key player, nor was he in the company at all for the iPod, iPad and iPhone, and had nothing to do with Pixar or NeXT.

    Jobs was not a codehead and his electronic skills were at a hobbyist level circa 1975, but in fairness to him, he was a "style fascist" with a clear vision of what he wanted and he got it done. The modern smartphone with an interface that is operated by fingers alone, was his idea. Previous attempts meant hard keys or a stylus, both of which were anathema to him.

    NeXT was his idea, and while it had flaws, it was in 1994 radically the best user interface and environment for a desktop computer in existence. I was a NeXT user and also a Newton user, which was not his idea and which he essentially took out in back and shot in the head. Newton was a great tool, but in the end, iOS devices are in most ways superior for daily use. Clear adherence to his vision meant there were problems with Apple products, but they also worked very well for most users and most of his bad ideas were ameliorated by people around him to a greater or lesser extent.

    Certainly he was a martinet, in the manner of Ettore Bugatti, and certainly he was occasionally ruthless and cruel. But in the end, in a world where customers could choose his products or alternate ones, he moved the art forward, and sometimes not in a small way. People pay a premium for Apple products not so much for prestige but because they work better than the competition for their purposes.

    Android, for instance, is more versatile than iOS and enables technically savvy users to do more things and sometimes much easier-plug an Android phone into a Windows PC via USB and you can search the directories and copy stuff over as if it were a jump drive, where with iOS you have to use third party software and even then can't transfer some things very easily. But Android is tough to support unfacile users with, for several reasons, whereas iOS is very simple to talk anyone through doing anything Apple intends for you to do. And iPhones are generally better built than most Android phones, and have far fewer technical issues.

    So the only thing that Woz ever did was the thing that put Apple on the map.

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  175. @Chris Bridges
    Good for you. Your experience, while not unique, is rare. Don’t try to transfer it to the average guy in 2018. Chivalry? Today? Don’t make me laugh. Most American women today don’t deserve any special treatment. Wake up.

    They don’t deserve it and they say they don’t want it.

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  176. @Steve Sailer
    Nah, Steve Jobs made simple-to-use products for unadventurous middle-aged people with more money than ability anymore to learn how to futz around with complex new technology. That turned out to be the most lucrative market niche in the world.

    A great many of the folks I see with Macs are much younger than I am. Well, okay, most people are younger than I am, but Mac users seem to be 20s and 40s.

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