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The dusty topic of Miami in the 1980s is back in the news, with the new Nobel laureate (sort of) in Economics Esther Duflo declaring that the boring, featureless history of Miami in the 1980s proves that low skill immigration has “zero” effect on the wages of low-skilled natives. And the Southern Poverty Law Center revealed the scandalous news that White House aide Stephen Miller must be a white nationalist because he cited Cuban-born Harvard professor of economics George Borjas’s study of Miami in the 1980s that came to the opposite conclusion.

As I may have mentioned once or twice over the decades, while economists have a hard time remembering much of anything about Miami in the 1980s, the place actually got a little publicity at the time, not all of it good.

One reason why economists can’t remember anything about the effects of immigration on Miami in the 1980s is crimestop, the protective stupidity that clever careerists undergo when suddenly Oceania stops being at war with Eastasia and now has always been at war with Eurasia.

As we all know now, immigrants, especially refugees, have always been sacred. Only veritable Nazis like Stephen Miller utter a word of criticism of migrants.

But was that always true? In fact, back in the 1980s, the most visible refugees in America were the fervent Latin American anti-Communist refugees from Cuba and Nicaragua pouring into Miami. Thus, the New York Times in 1987:

CAN MIAMI SAVE ITSELF?
A City Beset by Drugs and Violence
By Robert Sherrill
July 19, 1987, Section 6, Page 18

… For several years now, Miami, the nation’s youngest major city (officially only 15 years older than Ronald Reagan), has had the reputation of a juvenile delinquent. …

Expanding on that point not long ago, Javier Souto, a State Representative from Miami, told a reporter, ”Miami must seem like a foreign country to a lot of members. Here in Tallahassee, many just don’t realize the magnitude of our crime and drug problem, and what it’s like to be an immigrant.” …

Last spring, on behalf of Cushman & Wakefield, one of the largest commercial real estate brokers in the country, the pollster Louis Harris asked 403 chief executive officers to rank 30 metropolitan areas in terms of desirability for establishing a business. Miami came in 28th; only Cleveland and Detroit were rated less appealing.

Corporate relocation experts say that Miami – if it weren’t for those little warts like crime and drugs -would be very appealing to their clients.

They could draw on scads of cheap labor. Wages are 40 percent lower than the national average and there isn’t much danger of organized resistance because only 8 percent of Miami’s work force is unionized, compared with 20 percent nationally.

As Dr. Borjas recently documented, contra the much publicized David Card study of Miami wages in the 1980s …

… So why the reluctance of managers to test the magic of ”The Magic City”? One New York relocation consultant told Florida Trend magazine not long ago, ”Eight times in the last year Miami made our clients’ list of final six to 12 cities. But in all instances they flatly rejected it. In corporate America, Dade County is an unacceptable location due to image.”

That image is of a city and an area that is too ”foreign,” too volatile. When corporate managers say they feel they would have to sacrifice too much to come to Miami, they are clearly saying that, among other things, they don’t like the racial mix. In 1960, the city of Miami was about 75 percent ”Anglo.” (In Dade County, if you are white but not Hispanic, you are Anglo, even if you really are Jewish, Greek, Italian, or whatever.) Today, the Anglos in Miami are down to 15 percent. The other 85 percent are American blacks, Haitians, Salvadorans, Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, Nicaraguans, and others – but mostly Cubans.

Whatever Miami is today, it reflects the influence of Cuban immigrants, or, more exactly, of two waves of Cubans: ”The Promising Ones” of the early 60’s and ”The Frightening Ones” of the early 80’s.

EVEN THE MOST xenophobic Anglos welcomed the Cubans who arrived after Fidel Castro seized the island in 1959 – rich landowners, lawyers, doctors, businessmen, teachers, secretaries, stenographers, bookkeepers, technicians, the cream of Cuba’s professional crop. Eager to make use of this treasury of Spanish-speaking talent, multinational corporations came by the hundreds, setting up Latin headquarters in Miami and right next door in Coral Gables. Right behind them came the banks, so many that today the Miami area’s international banking community is the biggest south of New York. (Not all the banks had their eyes solely on the treasures of Exxon and Dow et al. Some also trooped in for a bit of that ”hanky-panky,” as an executive with the giant Southeast Bank called the billions of drug dollars that passed through Miami to be laundered, an activity that in some years left Florida banks with twice as much surplus cash as all other American banks put together.)

This is relevant to the conventional wisdom among economists other than Borjas that David Card’s study of Miami wages in 1980-84 proved that Law of Supply and Demand is automatically suspended in the case of immigrants having any effect. Card’s study depended on his assumption that only thing different between Miami in the 1980s and his four control cities such as Atlanta and Houston was the supply side shock to Miami’s labor market of the sudden arrival of a hundred thousand or so Cubans in the May 1980 Mariel Boatlift.

In reality, of course, Miami’s economy also experienced a vast demand side stimulus from the giant piles of cocaine cash flowing into Miami from 1980 onward, which would naturally work to boost wages. So, Card’s crucial assumption that ceteris was paribus in Miami in 1980-84 versus his control cities was obviously, flagrantly wrong.

The approbation given by economists who can’t remember that Miami in the early 1980s was more awash in cocaine cash than anywhere else in history are much the same economists who greeted Steven “Freakonomics” Leavitt’s 1999 draft paper claiming that because the American crime rate was lower in 1997 than in 1985, that proves that the legalization of abortion in 1969-1973 weeded out the bad apples.

Leavitt took his spiel around to many leading economics departments where, apparently, nobody pointed out that Levitt had completely overlooked what happened between 1985 and 1997: namely the huge spike in murder, peaking in the early 1990s among teens born after the legalization of abortion that is known to historians (but, evidently, not to economists) as the Crack Cocaine War. (I was evidently the first person to point out this inconvenient history to Leavitt in our debate in Slate in 1999.)

”And then,” recalls Puerto Rican-born Maurice A. Ferre -who was Miami’s Mayor during the turbulent years from 1973 to 1985 – telling it as though it were a fairy tale, ”all of a sudden, people who needed to come up to make business transactions found that it was a lot easier to jump on a plane in Lima or Sao Paulo and fly to Miami and do their business and go back home the next day than go up to New York and get caught in the snow and the traffic. And the people in New York couldn’t speak the language. … All these things have an internal dynamic that the community eventually recognizes, and starts putting up buildings.”

Indeed, the buildings did go up. Miami’s once-runty skyline became towering (topping at 55 floors) and dazzling with ”moderne” glassines s. Loaded with drug money and oil money, the jefes descended on the area’s real estate market and bought with more whim than reason – ”bang, bang, shoot’em up days” of wild shopping, as Barry Dick, a real estate specialist, remembers them.

The boom continued into the 1980’s, and then Latin America’s passionate affair with Miami cooled. The price of oil collapsed and left the area’s biggest trading partner, Venezuela, flat. Other Latin American countries, smothered in debt, retrenched radically. Dozens of the multinational corporations departed. Now, realtors are trying to corner West German, British, French, Canadian and Japanese investors, so far with only modest luck. In 1981, foreigners (mostly Latin) bought nearly 45 percent of the commercial real estate in greater Miami. Last year, they bought less than 10 percent of it.

The banks that moved to Miami to lend at towering interest rates to Latin customers have almost stopped lending altogether. Now they are there mainly to sop up ”flight money” deposited by Latins who are afraid their countries’ governments may topple.

Thomas R. Ferguson, president of the Beacon Council, says with the sadness of a betrayed lover, ”Miami’s ups and downs . . . have to do with the fact that we’ve become very reliant on trade with Latin America. When it’s good, it’s very good, and when it’s bad, it’s terrible. We have to begin to focus on other markets.” …

ITS IMAGE PROBABLY would have come through that recession unscathed if Miami had not at the same time been dealing with the fallout from ”Those Events” of 1980. Miamians speak of 1980 as San Franciscans who survived the great earthquake and fire must have spoken of 1906.

It was in 1980 that the Haitians sharply increased the size of their wretched, illegal armada, sailing across in leaky skiffs and bumboats and anything else that seemed likely to stay afloat for 600 or so miles. Some made it to south Florida and disappeared into the immigrant underground; many were caught and stuck for a while in a quasi concentration camp on the edge of Miami; others drowned and washed up on the Florida beaches in unseemly numbers.

It was also the year of the great riot. Angered by the exoneration of four white policemen who had killed a black insurance man, the residents of Liberty City, a predominantly black section of Miami, launched what was arguably the worst race riot of this century. It wasn’t just a civil protest. Blacks went out specifically to get whites, to assault them, to kill them. Some whites were doused with gasoline and set on fire. Some were beaten senseless in the street and run over, repeatedly. Nobody in Liberty City apologized. And when President Carter visited the area a few weeks later, to promise money for rebuilding the sacked neighborhoods (money that apparently never got there), blacks booed him and threw rocks and bottles at his motorcade.

But mainly, 1980 was the year of Castro’s great revenge. The United States had seriously hurt him when it recruited Cuba’s elite in the early 1960’s. Now he paid us back. In effect, he took control of United States immigration policy – he decided who and how many would come our way – and unloaded 125,000 Cubans, primarily on Miami, within a matter of months. Never before, it seemed, had so many foreigners come to one city in one year, to stay.

The great majority of these immigrants were not only law-abiding, but gutsy hustlers. Former State Senator Roberta Fox, a Democrat, has no reason to be happy about the flood of Cubans, because in 1986 they helped replace her with a Republican. But she does acknowledge that ”there are whole areas of the city that might have gone belly-up economically if it had not been for the entrepreneurship of the Cubans. They were amazing. You had middle-aged Cubans showing up without a penny, working as dishwashers, saving their money, starting little businesses – and succeeding.”

There was also, however, an abysmal downside to the class of 1980. By the reckoning of Lieut. Mike Gonzalez of the Miami Police Department’s homicide bureau, ”In one year, we got 10,000 additional killers and thieves.”

The effect of the Mariel invasion – so called because most of these immigrants left through Cuba’s port of Mariel – can be read in the murder statistics. In the first five months of 1980, the city of Miami had 75 murders. Then came the Marielitos. In the last seven months, there were 169 murders. In 1980-81, Miami had the highest murder rate of any city in the world. So many bodies piled up in the morgue that at one point the coroner had to rent a refrigerator van to handle the overflow. The narcotics wars were escalating. It was an era when Colombian and Cuban dealers would pull alongside each other at stoplights and blast away with submachine guns.

… But on the other hand, he points out, there were only four machine-gun murders last year. (For the last several years, the police themselves have been accused of some of the flashiest crimes – racketeering, multiple murders, extortion, drug peddling. Cops have stolen money and drugs from the department’s own safe.)

… MIAMI – WHERE VOODOO is practiced by many and an estimated 50,000 people are devotees of Santeria, a religion that requires animal sacrifice -has definitely taken on a quality that outside critics call ”foreign” and inside boosters call ”exotic.” Either way, the quality can be costly and abrasive and inconvenient.

The Dade County school system has to cope not just with bilingual education but with trilingual – Creole for Haitian students. The Beacon Council says it is afraid that ”Businesses around the country view our community as having a large, non-English-speaking population.” How could they view it otherwise? Responding to a corporate survey in 1980, about one-third of Hispanics said Spanish was their primary language at work; in a survey this year, the number had risen to 50 percent. Celia Dugger, a Miami Herald reporter, recently showed how the Hispanics, using their $8 billion in annual buying power, are persuading more and more Anglo businesses to run advertisements in Spanish.

If you don’t speak Spanish, you may need an interpreter to deal with hotel help or store clerks. You may even have trouble negotiating with the city and county governments. A couple of years ago, when the county offered free English lessons to those on the public payroll, one-third of the 4,500 Hispanics working for the county admitted they had difficulty speaking and reading English.

This makes a lot of Anglos uncomfortable and angry. They find it hard to adjust to a city where the immigrants seem more at home than they do. Former Mayor Ferre describes the traumatic change this way: ”When the southern Italians and the Eastern Europeans were coming to New York at the turn of the century or in the 1920’s, they never were more than 15 or 20 percent of the total population of New York. But here you have Hispanics making up 60 percent of the city of Miami, 80 percent of Hialeah, and more than 43 percent of Dade County.”

”And when those other groups immigrated,” adds Ferre, ”they came and assimilated over a long period of time. These people have come to south Florida in very large groups over a short period of time and established themselves with everything they needed. In [ New York’s ] Little Italy, you lived in the ghetto, but you had to go out of the ghetto to get a job as a clerk or carpenter or whatever. In Miami, the Cuban community is self-sufficient. It has its own banks, newspapers, television stations, gas stations, insurance companies, hospitals, doctors. The city has become the ghetto.”

When the Haitians (70,000 of them, at the official guess) adopted Miami, they brought with them a host of medical needs that are going to cost state and local taxpayers a lot. A high incidence of tuberculosis, AIDS and pregnancy among these illegal immigrants only adds to the problems already facing overburdened health care facilities such as the county hospital, Jackson Memorial. ”We have a very, very poor population in Dade County, as you can imagine, with the aliens coming in,” says one politician. ”We suffer from very high indigent health-care costs. Jackson Memorial is No. 1 in the state in the amount of charity it provides.”

CUBANS GAINED power, culturally and, later, politically, mostly because they moved in, but partly because the Anglos moved out. Those who left thought it cute to sport bumper stickers that read, ”Will the Last American to Leave Miami Please Bring the Flag?” But in fact it was a quip of surrender. As Mayor Ferre said at the time, ”The Anglos can’t adapt. They can’t take it, so they’re moving.”

For a while, because many Cubans were slow to seek citizenship or to get politically involved, they had little influence in elections. But now, only one Anglo remains on the City Council, and he’ll probably be the last.

The Cubans – 73 percent of those who are registered to vote are Republican – have ended Dade’s reign as Florida’s most liberal county. Before 1984, the mostly Democratic, closely knit, heavily Jewish condominium dwellers in the retirement villages in North Miami and North Miami Beach could swing county elections.

Anne Ackerman, 73, a snappish former Chicagoan who is one of the political leaders known as the ”Condo Commandoes,” admits, ”We lost our clout in 1984. A Democrat can still get elected in this county, but it will be difficult for a liberal Democrat.”

Dade County elected its first Cuban to its 28-member delegation to the State Legislature in 1982. Now there are eight Cubans, seven of whom were born on the island. All voted this year to make it easier to buy handguns and carry them hidden – a vote that 10 years ago would have been unthinkable for Miami legislators.

Nowhere else in America is local politics so permeated with foreign policy, which in Miami has sometimes meant an almost hysterical anti-Communism.

… James I. Mullins, former head of the Miami chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, used to fear that Miami might become another Beirut. Lately, he has begun to sound more cheerful. He still isn’t sure that the political extremists aren’t dominant among Cubans, ”but I feel very encouraged by the events of the last year and a half.” …

If you hunt hard, you can find an Anglo who sympathizes with the Cubans….

To find prominent Anglos who will speak on the record of the Cubans’ excesses is virtually impossible. If they are politicians, they are afraid of being voted out; if they are in business, they are afraid of being boycotted, and whatever they are, they are possibly afraid of being blown up. All three forms of retribution have been known to occur.

Offered anonymity, however, the Anglos open up. Here, for example, is the view of a liberal Anglo professional who has lived and worked in Miami for several decades:

”The Cubans have shamelessly exploited their role in the international game of politics, the cold war. My personal bitterness is that the Cubans are fascists and they are promoting fascism in my democratic country and in my city. They don’t believe in free speech. They believe in strong-arming. They are bullies. Individually I never met a Cuban I didn’t like. But collectively I can’t stand them because of their politics.”

… ABSENT FROM THIS budding coalition is the area’s American black population. There are some important blacks in Miami, including the police chief, who get interviewed occasionally on television and get their pictures in corporate annual reports. But the rank-and-file black knows from experience that the only sure way to catch the community’s attention is to burn down a few city blocks.

Blacks rioted at the Republican National Convention in Miami Beach in 1968. They rioted at Liberty City 12 years later. In 1982, they rioted in Overtown, a black community just a stone’s throw from downtown Miami, after a Hispanic police officer shot and killed a black youth.

Some say that in each instance the blacks were, at least to some extent, telling the world they were tired of seeing immigrants get favored treatment. Why had the Government subsidized unemployed Cuban men but not unemployed American blacks? Why were Cubans so much luckier at getting business loans from the Government? Many jobs formerly held by blacks were going to the newcomers.

If the rioters meant to raise questions, they got no answers. Income disparity between blacks and whites has widened. Cubans, who have started most of the small businesses in Miami in the last two decades, are notoriously unenthusiastic about hiring blacks, and the riots did not soften their attitude in the slightest. …

During the ”Year of Liberty City,” a disk jockey on a black radio station regularly chanted, ”Go away, Jose.” Irby Martin McKnight, 39, a crime prevention specialist for the Miami Urban League, says that’s the way blacks still feel. ”Before the influx of Latins,” he said, ”virtually all of the hotel and restaurant jobs were held by American blacks. When the Cubans came they worked for less because they could supplement their pay with stipends from world church organizations. Why pay $2.10 an hour for a dishwasher when you can get one for $1 an hour?

But the Science of Economics proves that the Law of Supply and Demand was suspended in the case of immigrants in Miami!

That’s just good capitalism. Nothing wrong with it. But the unskilled members of the black community feel that their dilemma was brought on by the Latins. And now the Haitians are taking over those menial jobs.” Asked what the displaced American blacks were doing now, McKnight said, ”They are standing on street corners and doing nothing.” …

In a recent advertisement in Fortune magazine saluting those who stayed, the Beacon Council admitted, ”For a while during the early 1980’s, it seemed like Miami’s future was anything but certain. . . . For a while, it seemed that Miami might never recover.”

But in fact, that gloomy appraisal was largely restricted to the Anglo business establishment.

The young Cuban business leadership never for a moment thought of leaving. To most of them – immigrant scramblers who had built their fortunes from scratch and against heavy odds – a bad image was the least of their problems, and one which their successes will probably do much to erase. …

Most of the upper-crust Cubans in the 30-to-50 age group react with impatience when reminded of the reasons for the bad image. The early 1980’s? To them that’s ancient history. …

Robert Sherrill is a freelance writer living in Florida.

This New York Times article provoked a Dave Barry retaliation in the Miami Herald:

Can New York Save Itself?

Sunday, August 30, 1987

… The story itself was more balanced, discussing the pluses as well as the minuses of life in South Florida, as follows:

* MINUSES: The area is rampant with violent crime and poverty and political extremism and drugs and corruption and ethnic hatred.

* PLUSES: Voodoo is legal.

I myself thought it was pretty fair. Our local civic leaders reacted to it with their usual level of cool maturity, similar to the way Moe reacts when he is poked in the eyeballs by Larry and Curly. Our leaders held emergency breakfasts and issued official statements pointing out that much of the information in The Times story was Ancient History dating all the way back to the early 1980s, and that we haven’t had a riot for, what, months now …

So the Miami Herald dispatched Dave to report on Joker era New York City:

… We’re riding in a cab from La Guardia Airport to our Manhattan hotel, and I want to interview the driver, because this is how we professional journalists take the Pulse of a City, only I can’t, because he doesn’t speak English. He is not allowed to, under the rules, which are posted right on the seat:

NEW YORK TAXI RULES

1. DRIVER SPEAKS NO ENGLISH.

2. DRIVER JUST GOT HERE TWO DAYS AGO FROM SOMEPLACE LIKE SENEGAL.

3. DRIVER HATES YOU.

Dave later returned to the subject of New York taxicab drivers in a 1990 column to top his 1987 punchline:

The driver was also careful to observe the strict New York City Vehicle Horn Code, under which it is illegal to honk your horn except to communicate one of the following emergency messages:

1. The light is green.

2. The light is red.

3. I hate you.

4. This vehicle is equipped with a horn.

 
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  1. Those Cubans were real go-getters … Haitians should have such pkuck!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  2. Anonymous[334] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s incredibly stark how different the writing in the NYT back then was compared to now. Not necessarily the content, but the tone. The piece feels like it was written by someone with a soul, capable of emotions like joy and good humor.

    Now, it is Serious Business all-the-damn-time.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    , @Hypnotoad666
  3. Anonymous[614] • Disclaimer says:

    For what’s it worth, a large part of the highly lucrative and massive US hardcore pornography industry has decamped out from California’s San Fernando Valley, to pastures new – or should that be stud farms new – in Florida, primarily around the Miami region, and, (the sacrilege!), dear old Uncle Walt’s pile, Orlando.
    Many, if not, all of the big internet subscription based pornographers such as Brazzers and Bang Bros are Florida based.

    Porn lore has it that the exodus from the ‘Rudie Valley’ was instigated by California legislators’ attempts to force the mandatory donning of male prophylaxis upon the ‘industry’, leading one wag to quip that the proposed restrictions would “blast the industry into Condom Come”.

    More seriously, however, the mass ‘mob’ presence in Miami – and mob money – makes the fit between porn and Miami as close as the hand to the proverbial glove …….

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alden
  4. anonn says:

    This ungrateful mob of planter aristocrats have had a malign impact on our politics for too long. Their stranglehold on Republican politicians means we’re still fighting the civil war caused by the greed of these lazy, useless parasites.

    I get it, they’re mad that they can’t lounge around on the haciendas all day while the peasants work the fields since their grandparents lost the plantations gained by their great-great-grandparents. Why is this our problem? I don’t owe anything to these people.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  5. “Anne Ackerman, 73, a snappish former Chicagoan who is one of the political leaders known as the ”Condo Commandoes,” admits, ”We lost our clout in 1984. A Democrat can still get elected in this county, but it will be difficult for a liberal Democrat.””

    “Blacks rioted at the Republican National Convention in Miami Beach in 1968. They rioted at Liberty City 12 years later. In 1982, they rioted in Overtown, a black community just a stone’s throw from downtown Miami, after a Hispanic police officer shot and killed a black youth.”

    Add those together and…

  6. Altai [AKA "Altai_3"] says:

    The driver was also careful to observe the strict New York City Vehicle Horn Code, under which it is illegal to honk your horn except to communicate one of the following emergency messages:

    1. The light is green.

    2. The light is red.

    3. I hate you.

    4. This vehicle is equipped with a horn.

    I can always tell when a bus driver is from MENA, he starts banging the steering wheel at nothing and everything. Once I was on a bus and the driver honked at an empty road just for good measure. Everytime I give the driver a look to see if my prejudice is right and everytime it is.

    Just another nice thing we can’t have anymore.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  7. Miami has four relevant demographic categories:

    1) Alien and destitute
    2) Alien and successful
    3) Native and destitute
    4) Native, successful, and gone.

    …similar to the way Moe reacts when he is poked in the eyeballs by Larry and Curly.

    Or Bill Cosby, after a woman drugged and bedded him.

    Did this ever happen? Even once? Moe was the poker.

    In Dade County, if you are white but not Hispanic, you are Anglo, even if you really are Jewish, Greek, Italian, or whatever.

    So it’s not just the Mexicans who slap that ugly term on us. What is Cuban for gringo? For that matter, what is Floridian for beaner?*

    My German half is offended not by the presence of Anglo, but by the omission of Saxon.

    *Will Shortz had to apologize for allowing beaner in a NYT puzzle, even though the clue was baseball-related. He’d never heard the slang. Who would have , in Indiana horse country, or up the Hudson?

  8. Great post Steve.
    I wonder how competitive effects differ from skilled immigrants and high performing groups, and low skilled immigrants and low performing groups. Like the Chinese will compete with Whites for wages, depressing wages through competition, but, the high crimes of Haitians may harm the social ecosystem of the locality that they migrate toward, depressing wages, but for entirely different reasons.

    Also, from what I have read, the effects of the Cuban migration seem temporary and not at all enduring. It is true that a rapid increase in labor will depress wages, but are these effects longstanding? After all, its not like small countries dramatically outearn larger countries in terms of wages. Of course, this is for the current flows we have, not the dramatically higher ones resulting under open borders.

    Here is a good reality check, California has around 350x the number of immigrants that Vermont
    has yet California has virtually the same median household income than Vermont does.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSCAA672N
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSVTA672N

    And I am sure when you account for the fact that California has a much bigger, in percent terms, Hispanic and Black populations than Vermont, then the results are even more dramatic. For non-Hispanic Whites, the median household income is $75,000.
    https://statisticalatlas.com/state/California/Household-Income

    I am not doubting that mass immigration can depress wages, but for the flows that we have, I am not sure that it is anything very impactful. Though immigration dramatically increases the costs of living standards, and Vermont’s poverty rate is 11.9% while California’s is 19.0%. Even then the differences are not that dramatic as people might believe them to be.

  9. KR says:

    I was a professor in Miami in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

    My classes were about twenty percent “Anglo” which we defined as whites whose first language was English, in other words, whites sans Cubans. Students grouped themselves on the basis of race, religion and ethnicity, except for Anglos who were scattered among the rest.

    — I was told to separate students from Pakistan during exams to prevent cheating. They huddled together, rarely speaking to the other students. They felt no guilt or remorse when caught cheating. I failed half of them.

    — Haitians and African-American students detested each other. The Haitians were darker, a fact about which AAs joked loudly. I was told they lived in contiguous parts of Miami with a well-guarded “DMZ zone” separating these two groups.

    — Cuban students were lousy students, but congenial and obsessed with sex. At the age of, say … ten – not a joke — Cuban girls were far more curvy than I was in my mid-twenties! In class, girls sported bright red lips, flowing, often-lightened hair, well-exposed cleavages and butt-tight pants. Similarly, Cuban boys wore tight pants with an obvious and defined bulge, top button undone. To describe them as distracting would be an understatement.

    — The few Jews in my classes were, as expected, the best students. They hung with each other and seemed to enjoy the company of Cubans more than Anglos.

    — Anglos seemed to get along with all the groups. Conversely, no one got along with the Haitians.

    As an aside, the riots in Miami weren’t limited to 1968 and 1982. Well into the early 1990s, when I left, ongoing race/ethnic-based tensions erupted into violence monthly … perhaps, annually.

    I recall, vividly, driving north on a major highway during one of these tense periods. Before I had left my office to go home, I had been warned by security that “rioters” were throwing rocks at passing cars as well as takings shots at random drivers. In the back seat of my car — forgotten – were a few cans of diet coke, one of which exploded from the heat at the exact moment I entered the highway. As warm coke dripped down the back of my neck, I marvelled that I felt no pain … how easy it was to die … how fearless I was … how rational. Convinced I had been shot, I pulled to the side of the highway to prevent hitting another car as I died.

    It took about 30 second before I figured out that it wasn’t blood, but hot coke, dripping down my hair and neck — my one and only near-death experience!

  10. Can a brother get a hat tip around here?

    I remember when the Barry column came out. It was huge — and ran in all the papers across the country. My college friends from Boston waved it in my face like it was a huge victory for Boston. Take that, New York! (It came around 10 months after Bill Buckner)

    Of course, they didn’t see the irony — no one would bother doing a takedown of Boston. Might as well do a takedown of Cedar Rapids.

  11. J.Ross says:

    Old media finally recognizes new media, by calling them evil Nazi witches who must burn. Surely this will win back everybody burnt out on newsmedia lying and comic book nonsense.
    A network television series (was it Elementary?) previously maligned the chans as a causative terrorist organization deserving torture (you’re supposed to laugh or smirk at the end, when the hero reveals to the evil Russian hacker from chan4 that he is betrayed, and furthermore, the hero enjoyed betraying such filth). Now CBS is bringing out a new but similar series called Evil. Hmm, torture-apologetic state propaganda that calls itself Evil; is that because we really have run out of irony? The bad guy in Evil is alternative media platforms which compete with (and generally trounce) CBS and the rest of the mainstream media.
    Dinosaur fossil media call chantards necrophiles; chantards respond, “too old, do not want.”

  12. @Altai

    Indian and Pakistani cab drivers are terrible as well.

    I spent a few years living on a street that was a block from one of the “major” streets, and known to taxi drivers as the fastest way to get E to W in that part of Manhattan.

    There was a sign outside my building warning drivers not to honk or else a large fine. Of course they ignored it.

    As far as I can tell, The Horn appears to be the foundation for both the Hindu and Moslem religions.

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @William Badwhite
  13. J.Ross says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Will Shortz had to apologize for allowing beaner in a NYT puzzle, even though the clue was baseball-related. He’d never heard the slang. Who would have, in Indiana horse country, or up the Hudson?

    When I returned to Michigan after a spell in Atzlan, I was greeted by a huge, happy, candy-colored billboard advertising the Arab-owned Midwestern franchise chain of BEANER’S COFFEE shops. Hey, it was massively better than Starbucks, Holmes. And it continued to use that name for years before somebody complained (it’s now Biggby’s, which is merely offensive to Dungeons and Dragons nerds).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  14. @Reg Cæsar

    There are some Amish communities around southern Wisconsin.

    A friend of mine who is an immigrant from Germany has tried talking to Amish in German. They always answer in English.

    Apparently, the Amish divide the world into Amish and English, and speak only English amongst the English.

    And yes, everyone reading this is English.

  15. Was Jebby Bush benefiting from laundering drug loot through South Florida real estate transactions?

    I wrote this in May of 2018 about Jebby Bush and WASPs and greed:

    The annoying WASP greed for power and their cloying attempts to hide what they are doing is just basic human nature at work, red in tooth and claw. Let us recall that the Puritans were especially greedy and horny people, that is why their preachers had to bang on about not being so greedy and not always trying to bang your neighbor’s wife. Regular English people, who are naturally decent, don’t need such constant threats of hellfire. Remember, it has been said that greedy WASP rat Jebby Bush was laundering drug money in Miami through real estate transactions. Was he? I wouldn’t doubt it.

    Also, your point brings to my mind that the use of the WASP descriptive term should be narrow and focused on treasonous money-grubbing filth like that in the Bush Organized Crime family. The regular people of English ancestry in New England and the South are wonderful. I have some English ancestry, and I don’t consider myself a WASP.

    The WASPs are a particular branch of the WASP / Jew ruling class of the American Empire, and, before that, the British Empire, who use the worst aspects of their own human nature to greedily destroy and grub for money.

    Tweet from 2015:

  16. @Steve Sailer

    I included the COL adjusted poverty for both states. Vermont 11.9% vs 19.0% in California.
    Rent is presumably included in those calculations.
    Though I am shocked that Vermont is that poor. Isn’t it like 95% White, and has a stable population to boot?

  17. One of the worst examples of an immigrant ingrate is Dan LeBatard the fat Cuban guy who is on ESPN something like 27 hours in one day.

    He hates whites, imagines himself to be a spokesman for blacks and he is the son of an immigrant who came to Miami from Cuba.

    LeBatard hates historical America and he is forever taking the name of the Lord in Vain but that is OK because ESPN is not owned by a Christian but woe betide Tubby if he doesn’t side with sodomites.

    • Replies: @Romanian
  18. @Steve Sailer

    Actually an interesting update to California cost of living poverty rate. In 2019 it is 17.8%, down from 19% the year before.
    So the situation has dramatically improved vis a vis Vermont. And California has 350x the # of immigrants than Vermont. Interesting food for thought.
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.theepochtimes.com/why-does-california-lead-the-nation-in-poverty_3076621.html/amp&ved=2ahUKEwjgooK6i-3lAhUSCawKHXnSCycQFjAWegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw0xRj2MwAgQdbbn1ef_bUb5&ampcf=1

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
  19. ic1000 says:
    @Anonymous

    > It’s incredibly stark how different the writing in the NYT back then was compared to now.

    Angered by the exoneration of four white policemen who had killed a black insurance man, the residents of Liberty City, a predominantly black section of Miami, launched what was arguably the worst race riot of this century. It wasn’t just a civil protest. Blacks went out specifically to get whites, to assault them, to kill them. Some whites were doused with gasoline and set on fire. Some were beaten senseless in the street and run over, repeatedly. Nobody in Liberty City apologized.

    Blacks out to get whites? To assault them? To kill them? Whites doused with gasoline, set on fire, beaten senseless, repeatedly run over? By blacks?

    Of course nobody apologized. They had a sense of the future, the future NYT, where things like this never happen and never happened. Even if they did.

    For fun, I Googled worst race riot:

    1. Tulsa Race Riot
    2. ‘Watchmen’ Opened With the Tulsa Race Riot
    3. Tulsa Race Massacre
    4. Tulsa Race Massacre
    5. One of the last survivors of 1921 Tulsa race riot dies at 103
    6. Riot and Remembrance [Tulsa Race Riot]
    7. Meet The Last Surviving Witness To The Tulsa Race Riot
    8. Chicago Race Riot of 1919
    9. ‘Watchmen’ director Nicole Kassell interview
    10. Riot and Remembrance

    To be fair, the Current Year has a defense: 38 dead in 1919 Chicago and at least 36 dead in 1921 Tulsa, versus 18 in 1980 Miami.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  20. @Paleo Liberal

    The Amish speak “Pennsylvania Dutch,” or “Pennsilfaanisch-Deitsch.”

    An acquaintance of mine, the descendant of German immigrants, speaks the language fluently.

    She once visited an Amish store in rural western New York. She smiled at a few Amish kids, and greeted them in German, trying to make conversation.

    The kids gave her a strange glance, and a funny smile, before running away. One shouted, in Pennsylvania Dutch, “She speaks funny Deitsch!”

    • Replies: @Cortes
    , @Anonymous
  21. Dr. X says:

    Only veritable Nazis like Stephen Miller utter a word of criticism of migrants.

    A Jewish Nazi, eh? What rank is he — Judensturmbannführer??

  22. Altai [AKA "Altai_3"] says:

    I dunno, the MSM in Britain are still very protective of Eastern Europeans in Britain even as their cousins back home are marching with burning torches at the thought of maybe a few asylum seekers being hosted. (Whilst also being outraged at the idea of being locked out of the UK labour market that is already in a state that will take a generation to recover)

    OT: A study was compiled to count the number of compromised usernames and passwords found 21 million including many Fortune 500 and government credentials.

    https://www.securityweek.com/21-million-stolen-fortune-500-credentials-sale-dark-web

    This line from the story made me laugh:

    Technology, financial and energy are the most common sectors with stolen credentials coming via adult websites. Here, the surprise is not the source, but that users have utilized their business rather separate personal accounts to log in. “There is no clear answer to this,” Ilia Kolochenko, CEO and founder of ImmuniWeb told SecurityWeek. But he noted that “with the Ashley Madison and AdultFriendFinder breaches, many .gov and .gov.uk emails figured amid their users.”

    Yes there is, these companies have a lot more sexually frustrated men working for them and so a higher number of them are also stupid enough to use their work emails.

  23. istevefan says:

    In 1960, the city of Miami was about 75 percent ”Anglo.” (In Dade County, if you are white but not Hispanic, you are Anglo, even if you really are Jewish, Greek, Italian, or whatever.) Today, the Anglos in Miami are down to 15 percent.

    First, I don’t know if he wrote that as sarcasm or not, but calling American Whites Anglo is no worse than calling Japanese, Italians, Bantus, etc. hispanic just because they came here by way of Latin America.

    Second, if his stats were correct and Anglos went from 75% to 15% in under 30 years, that’s f*cked up.

    I really detest our leadership class.

    • Replies: @Altai
  24. syonredux says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    In Dade County, if you are white but not Hispanic, you are Anglo, even if you really are Jewish, Greek, Italian, or whatever.

    So it’s not just the Mexicans who slap that ugly term on us. What is Cuban for gringo? For that matter, what is Floridian for beaner?*

    My German half is offended not by the presence of Anglo, but by the omission of Saxon.

    The battle’s over; Anglo has won.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  25. OT – why is lying to Congress a crime? It should be an obligation!

  26. ATBOTL says:

    …there are whole areas of the city that might have gone belly-up economically if it had not been for the entrepreneurship of the Cubans.

    That is such an absurd fiction. The only danger of these areas going “belly up” was because of the influx Cubans to begin with. If those areas had just stayed white American, it would never have been an issue at all.

  27. @Anonymous

    The Current Year NYT is written as if they are actually trying to be uninteresting. The ratio of concrete facts to canned woke interpretations is about 1:3.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  28. Altai [AKA "Altai_3"] says:
    @istevefan

    In the context of states with Hispanic immigration, the term ‘Anglo’ is often used with reference to white persons or anyone who speak English as their first language since immigration in those places is often so heavily biased towards Spanish speakers. This and so many of the previous Cubans from the elite were of overwhelming or completely European ancestry.

    In Miami in the 80s/90s it was perhaps at it’s most relevant as Spanish became a truly competing language.

  29. Say hello to my little friends!

    – Lutheran Refugee Services

  30. @John Arthur

    The U.S. is one big fluid economy and labor market. People are always moving toward higher wages and away from high costs. Businesses are moving toward market demand and cheaper supplies of labor.

    Given that, it is probably a fool’s errand to try to assess immigration’s impacts by looking only at particular localities.

    For example, if you looked only at localities in isolation, you would conclude that natural disasters are great for the economy. Because outside insurance money pours into the area to finance a rebuilding boom.

    Likewise, current refugees may improve local economies simply because they attract so much new state and federal aid. But the whole U.S. economy can’t improve by following this formula.

    It’s basically a variant of the broken window fallacy.

  31. @John Arthur

    Vermont has 1/60th the population of California, so California has a little under 6 times the number per capita of immigrants as Vermont does. I like Vermont (not to live there though), but it’s a fairly business unfriendly state, with no major industries, hard winters, yet has managed a much higher home ownership rate than California (71 vs 54), and, as you noted, much lower poverty. I’m not going to bother looking at K-12 school quality between the states: Vermont is simply far superior. (I won’t speak to the condition of Vermont’s electrical grid: it must be hard for them to keep it going through ice storms and snow. Thankfully California has no issues there…)

    Now how much all of the differences between the two states are due to the wage suppression effects of low skilled immigration is unknown by me, but some things, like home ownership rates, school quality, and infrastructure, are obvious — large scale immigration has been damaging to Americans.

    More food for thought would be to compare Vermont’s neighbor New Hampshire, a more business friendly state than Vermont, and roughly similar demographically to it, with California. Is Vermont an outlier or not?

  32. @Achmed E. Newman

    Truer than you may think. Not only are our new friends leetle, they are being used the same way as Tony Montana’s. They are human bullets, aimed directly at White America.

  33. Altai [AKA "Altai_3"] says:
    @Anonymous

    With the advent of trivia channels on YouTube, certain people without much interest in European peoples otherwise have discovered there is a country full of poor Finns and seem to want to dethrone Prague and Budapest as the centres of porn in Europe.

  34. @XYZ (no Mr.)

    Vermont is the anti-capitalist doppelganger of prosperous New Hampshire.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  35. When South Vietnam fell in 1975, the “boat people” came to America. The “liberals” didn’t want them.

    I recall George McGovern declared “Send them back. They are better off where they came from.” Jessie Jackson also waded in with “Send them back.”

    Those are the two I recall.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @J.Ross
  36. Alden says:
    @David In TN

    The liberals claimed the Vietnamese refugees were all evil pro American fascists, war profiteers, prostitutes and torturers of pure virtuous and innocent Vietnam Cong freedom fighters.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  37. Altai [AKA "Altai_3"] says:

    Somewhat OT:

    5.5 million mansion yacht in Miami.

  38. TGGP says: • Website

    It’s spelled “Levitt”, not “Leavitt”.

  39. @Anonymous

    …leading one wag to quip that the proposed restrictions would “blast the industry into Condom Come”.

    Minneapolis once had a store, run by a dot, called Condom Kingdom. It went under. You don’t need a prophylactic when viewing porn, unless you’re on expensive upholstery.

    There’s another Condom Kingdom in Philadelphia, but I don’t know if it’s related. Is it run by another Apu? Philadelphia had, until recently, the largest gay bookstore in America. That sounds like an odd place for such a thing, unless something else was going on, like it was the only one in town.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  40. @syonredux

    The battle’s over; Anglo has won.

    The linguistic terrorists prevail? This Anglo-Saxon will never give in!

    Wogs begin at Coral Gables.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @reactionry
  41. @XYZ (no Mr.)

    Good points. I suspect we would have to compare Whites in California vs Whites in Vermont/New Hampshire.

    The poverty described above is due to COL in California, but in terms of other factors, California does really well.

    Remember the high COL is due to the fact that people are willing to pay such expenses to live there, and that probably isn’t a knock on the state.
    I.E. people could sell their ordinary house in

    California and buy some much nicer one in some other state, but very few do, and it should be counted as a preference at that point.

    New Hampshire is really good, and the best state in the country. Almost all white population + pro business makes quite the success. Alas, what we could have had…

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
  42. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    You’re right that the Public Health authorities of the state and county really harassed the SFV porn industry. Monthly testing for HIV and the other grunges incurable herpes and the Los Angeles Times and that SFV news paper blasting the news about STDs in porn actors probably chased the the business out of Los Angeles.

    Then there’s Workmen’s Compensation if one porn actor infects another at work. A lifetime of HIV meds is very costly. Wcomp insurance companies are vicious. They punish employers with extremely high rate increases if anyone gets hurt in the job. Plus rising rents and a health department inspector around all the time to prevent infected actors from infecting another.

    I can see why they moved to Florida

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  43. @Steve Sailer

    Vermont is the anti-capitalist doppelganger of prosperous New Hampshire.

    A good, and short, book covering this is Frank Bryan’s Real Vermonters Don’t Milk Goats. Vermonters have always been softer toward their neighbors– their neighbors have always been, until lately, other Vermonters. Not flatlanders.

    Bryan calls New Hampshiremen “skinflints” in Vermonters’ eyes. Yet Vermont rejected FDR four times (along with Maine, upstate New York, and the rest of the rural Northeast.) But New Hampshire voted for him three times.

    Damn shoe-factory frogs!

  44. Altai [AKA "Altai_3"] says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    I think it’s more cultures where public expression of anger isn’t demeaned or even celebrated as macho or a necessity in a low trust society. So instead of keeping it to themselves whenever they feel frustrated, they express it, whereas in North Western European cultures, a child is taught it’s childish to blow up in public and to control their anger.

    Of course, as Western countries become more low trust, the incentives for this behaviour become lower and perhaps eventually negative.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @William Badwhite
  45. syonredux says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe a guerrilla campaign in favor of Anglian or Anglic might work….Alternatively, perhaps Anglix is the way to go…You know, really work the LGBTQ factor….

  46. Alden says:

    Pro gun, fascists, commie hating right wingers Republicans well, they’re better than democrats. Overwhelming the old commie Noo Yawk jews Sounds like a great city. Too bad they didn’t take over California. Instead of Cuba’s winners, we get Mexico’s losers and Central America’s primitives.

  47. Cortes says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “There’s another Condom Kingdom in Philadelphia, but I don’t know if it’s related. Is it run by another Apu? Philadelphia had, until recently, the largest gay bookstore in America. That sounds like an odd place for such a thing, unless something else was going on, like it was the only one in town.”

    Does “brotherly love” ring any bells?

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  48. When we read about Arab immigrants to Europe who gain criminal convictions, often they are from Morocco. Yet, strangely, Morocco is one of the least dysfunctional of the Arab countries.

    I wonder whether Morocco runs an unofficial “Mariel” policy – following Fidel Castro’s example by emptying its prisons and mental hospitals and sending the inmates to Europe.

  49. ATBOTL says:

    The Anglos in South Florida were pretty pathetic. Did they do anything to stop the Cuban invasion?

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  50. ATBOTL says:
    @Alden

    It’s too bad their argument didn’t carry the day.

  51. What’s remarkable is that this story is 32 years old. It could not be written today by anybody, much less the NYT.

  52. RAZ says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    Vermont is not all hippy dippy Burlington. Rural and not much industry and opioid problems (like a lot of rural places). But pretty!

    Southern NH (where most of the population is) became a bedroom community of Boston and now has commerce in its own right, which powers the state above VT.

    Both have a tourism industry (skiing, etc). Seasonal employment.

    Guessing if you just looked at northern VT past Burlington against northern NH there might be less of a difference between the two.

  53. Richard Nixon met many Hungarians in Austria after they fled over in 1956, and I understand that we gave asylum to 30K. Below, he meets more of them in NJ resettlement camp.
    I am uncertain about how enthusiastic the HIAS were towards these Christian immigrants that also contained notables such as Intel’s Andy Grove.

    https://www.britishpathe.com/video/nixon-visits-hungarian-refugee-camp

    Fortunately, we have progressed and we dont give asylum to Boer farmers and have VP Pence meet them at the airport. Only authoritarian leaders such as Orban, Putin would accept them and let them farm in peace
    Pitt article on their rapid assimilation

    https://ahea.pitt.edu/ojs/index.php/ahea/article/viewFile/255/440

  54. NYT celebrated Andy Grove’s academic success at City College NY

    “A Hungarian Refugee who three years ago didn’t know horizontal from vertical—in English—will be graduated from City College today at the head of the class of engineering students” (New York Times 1960: 22). By then the freshly minted graduate had Americanized his name to Andrew S. Grove. Grove later became the CEO of Intel, and in 1997 he became Time magazine’s “Man of the Year” (Tedlow 2006: xxi). In 1957 soon after his
    Pastor, Peter. “The American Reception and Settlement of Hungarian Refugees in 1956–1957.” Hungarian CulturalStudies.e-Journal of theAmerican Hungarian Educators Association, Volume 9(2016): http://ahea.pitt.eduDOI: 10.5195/ahea.2016.255204arrival to New York, Andy Grove severed his ties to Hungary and he never returned to the country of his birth. In 1958 he married a non-Hungarian, Eva Kastan, who wasborn in 1935 in Vienna and escaped with her parents the Nazi pogrom there when she was three. She grew up in Bolivia before she emigrated to the US (Tedlow 2006: xiii, 69). Grove reflected on these decisions in his memoirs: “My life started over in the United States. I have set roots here. Whatever roots I had in Hungary were cut off when I left and have since withered and died. Meanwhile, my life here has flourished” (Grove 2001: 287).

  55. @J.Ross

    the Arab-owned Midwestern franchise chain of BEANER’S COFFEE shops.

    Hispanic colonization is relatively low in Ohio and Michigan. At least the change was proactive, and paid for by the corporate office:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biggby_Coffee#From_Beaner’s_Coffee_to_Biggby_Coffee

    In a similar move, Cooperstown, NY’s high school recently retired their Redskin “mascot”, but the new one, the Hawkeye, at least is a nod to a particular redskin, from a Cooper novel.

  56. Dmitry says:

    Anyone have a theory why Miami seems to have such a strong aesthetic culture in 1980-1990?

    Is this related to a cultural influence of the immigration from Cuba? Perhaps Cuba was culturally frozen from the 1959, and the Cuban immigrants have re-imported a generally more formal attitude to clothes had been lost to non-culturally frozen nationalities. (Or there are perhaps just a lot of Italian people living in Miami in this epoch?)

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @Steve Sailer
  57. @John Arthur

    Yes, I’m in California, and American. I’m biased, but California surpasses Vermont in natural beauty and natural variety, climate, and important industries. But of course, many who are willing to pay a high cost of living relative their salary are indeed foreign, because even when a very large chunk of wages goes to rent, and roads and schools overcrowded and inferior to most other American states, things are still better than their homelands — a very low bar to pass. California would certainly not be growing without immigration, skilled and unskilled, and of course more Americans move out of than move into the state. The left takes that as a sign of the importance of immigration. I do too: it’s a sign a disfunctional American state can be kept growing along just fine, just as long as there are worse countries out there to let people migrate from — damn the effects on the American people, of course.

    Note there are Californians who won’t leave because this is their land and country, and where their family is. Economics is not a religion, economists are not priests: not ever decision is made for economic reasons, thank God, and many decisions are made every day, everywhere, to someone’s economic detriment that yet makes him or her happy.

  58. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Germany wasn’t one country when the Amish left and there wasn’t one German language either.
    Their brand of German is more similar to “Swiss German” but almost all Swiss Germans speak regular German too, the Amish are proudly intransigent and don’t.

    • Replies: @ulithi
  59. Dmitry says:
    @Dmitry

    ^ I mean I know that’s just a television drama – but in the YouTube comments people are saying the police actually dressed like that in real life.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  60. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    I don’t see how porn actors and actresses actually make money since so much free to the viewer online porn is readily available and done by people the world over as a lark or out of exhibitionism. it’s tough to sell what people give away for free.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  61. @Dmitry

    Yes, Cuba has cultural connections to the Mediterranean, where there is more of a male peacock attitude. There’s a good line in Tom Wolfe’s “Back to Blood” where somebody educated scoffs at the Miami Cuban cop Nestor Camacho that he probably doesn’t even know who the first Nestor was. He replies proudly, “Everyone knows the names of the heroes of the Trojan War,” implying that the Trojan War is part of his heritage as a Cuban.

    Also, Art Deco made a comeback all over the U.S. in the 1980s and South Beach in Miami Beach already had an old Art Deco district.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    , @Dmitry
    , @AKAHorace
  62. Ian Smith says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Aside from the crime, 1980s Miami sounds kind of awesome!

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  63. @John Arthur

    So you claim:

    I am not doubting that mass immigration can depress wages, but for the flows that we have, I am not sure that it is anything very impactful.

    Not enough supply to reduce wages? But then when asked

    What is rent in Vermont?

    You wrote:

    Rent is presumably included in those calculations.

    Not to mention that you think

    11.9% vs 19.0%

    is a case where

    differences are not that dramatic as people might believe them to be.

    So 60% isn’t dramatic? Suppose your employer tells you, “Hey John Artur I was paying you $50,000, but now you will be payed $31,315.79, because the difference is not that dramatic.” Will you think that your pay cut isn’t that dramatic?

    Do you live in California?

    • LOL: Autochthon
  64. J.Ross says:
    @David In TN

    There was also the completely disgusting campaign to hunt down and drive out the guy from that famous execution photograph.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyễn_Ngọc_Loan
    In 1991, he closed his restaurant and went into retirement.[citation needed]. Adams recalled that on his last visit to the pizza parlor shortly before it closed, he had seen written on a toilet wall, “We know who you are, you $#@%@#”.[32][14][28]

  65. Dmitry says:
    @Steve Sailer

    cultural connections to the Mediterranean, where there is more of a male peacock attitude.

    Yes that seems true – also varying like that within countries a bit.

    In Northern Spain (especially Pais Vasco – which is far from the Mediterranean), it seems like there are more young guys dressing very untidy. But I remember from visiting Seville in South Spain, that in evening you see extremely smartly clothed young guys slowly walking around the streets with their girlfriends, in circles just to parade themselves (which is almost Italian behaviour, although perhaps they are not doing it to the same extent, or with quite such nice clothes as real Italians).

    Art Deco made a comeback all over the U.S. in the 1980s and South Beach in Miami Beach already had an old Art Deco district

    This style looks very cool in Miami (I haven’t been, but this is my impression from looking at pictures).

    Funnily it is almost same style as constructivist architecture built for NKVD members in Ekaterinburg (like in “Checkist village”, “Dzerzhinsky culture palace”, “Dynamo Sports Club”).

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  66. J.Ross says:
    @Anonymous

    Hopefully this has been staunched but there are still gullible girls who get into it because they think it’s easy money. The documentary most sympathetic to porn stars themselves might be Louis Theroux’s. He still makes them look miserable. He records one woman he interviewed, who takes a break from the interview to go do a prescheduled live chat; when she comes back she reports that she has made about three hundred dollars. This used to be below the minimum price for a normal prostitute, which was $350-450. Back in the period depicted in Boogie Nights you could expect to make nearly Hollywoodish money because of simple economics and technological bottlenecks.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  67. Rapparee says:

    In fact, back in the 1980s, the most visible refugees in America were the fervent Latin American anti-Communist refugees from Cuba and Nicaragua pouring into Miami.

    The Cubans – 73 percent of those who are registered to vote are Republican – have ended Dade’s reign as Florida’s most liberal county.

    I have quite a few Latin-American and Latin-American descended friends. They’re all right-wing Catholics from upper-middle class families, and I joke with them that, if they were typical of the immigrants their countries were sending us (they’re obviously not), the Democrats would have built an impregnable border wall decades ago.

  68. AKAHorace says:
    @Steve Sailer

    So how did the Cubans get control of the drug trade in Miami at that time ? Cuba produces nothing in terms of narcotics.

    Why not the Colombians, Bolivians or Peruvians who would have connections to cocaine producing areas. How did the Cubans even get a look in ?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  69. @James N. Kennett

    They do and it’s not even nofficial.
    It’s just ignored.
    Noticing is racist.

  70. @John Arthur

    The cost of living matters because $50k for whites in Vermont is actually about four times as much money as $75k for whites in California.

    In Vermont, $50k buys you a nice house and good schools and safe streets and reliable public services. How much would that cost in California? The general consensus seems to be that the cost of living in CA is about 6x higher, but it depends on your situation. Could be 3x or 10x, depending.

    If people were routinely making $300k in CA (the equivalent of $50k in Vermont), would they struggle and fight with each other in the rat race to get ahead or would they relax and be happy they already had enough? Wouldn’t they cut their hours and spend time with their kids after school?

    Vermonters earn less because they already have more and they don’t need to fight for scraps like Californians. They earn less because they are rich, not because they are poor.

  71. @AKAHorace

    I presume the Colombians dominated the cocaine trade, but there were a lot of Cubans on the ground in Miami at the receiving end. Oliver Stone just made up much of the story of Tony Montana: the movie Scarface came out only a little over 3 years after the Mariel boatlift, so it shouldn’t be seen as an accurate portrayal of the ethnicity of the cocaine lords. It’s more Stone’s fictional updating of the early talky movie with Paul Muni.

  72. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    There are ‘Golden Age of Porn” blogs about this (the mainstream feature film era of porno, roughly 1975-1984 or so) era and its stars. Most of the survivors are flat broke, but of the women and the men who did not do gay porn, AIDS casualties were less common than you’d think. They all have herpes and many have other diseases that aren’t curable, but the number that AIDS and hepatitis took out are far, far higher among men that did gay than of men who didn’t and of women. Suicide and drugs took some, a few turned solidly middle class, one or two became “voodoo academics”, and some have simply chosen to go undercover and forget about it all. And there’s Ron Jeremy, who’s parlayed his porn career into being a general oddball on the outskirts of, but definitely part of, mainstream fame.

    I’ve met a couple of these people. It’s amazing to me that they are doing as well as they are, to be honest.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  73. @ic1000

    To be fair, the Current Year has a defense: 38 dead in 1919 Chicago and at least 36 dead in 1921 Tulsa, versus 18 in 1980 Miami.

    63 in 1992 Los Angeles, 43 in 1967 Detroit, 34 in 1943 Detroit …

    • Agree: ic1000
  74. Never has so little been said in such a volume of bullshit as in this pretentious screed.

  75. @James N. Kennett

    I wonder whether Morocco runs an unofficial “Mariel” policy – following Fidel Castro’s example by emptying its prisons and mental hospitals and sending the inmates to Europe.

    Pretty sure that this is the scheme that all Maghreb countries are running at the moment.

  76. @Dmitry

    I mean I know that’s just a television drama – but in the YouTube comments people are saying the police actually dressed like that in real life.

    Pretty sure dressing like that would be mandatory for any undercover cops.

    Along the same lines, after Vice blew up the fake Ferrari Daytona and right before the Testarossa reveal, there is a great scene between Crockett and Lt. Castillo about how Crockett can’t keep showing up to six-figure drug deals looking like Lil’ Abner:

    “It’s out back.”

    Indeed, Lt. indeed.

  77. ulithi says:
    @Anonymous

    du hoscht recht, die Amish sprecha’ net hochdeutsh, sondern halb schwaebish, bissel platt deutsch un pennsylvanischer kauterquatsch.

  78. Anon[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    North Western European cultures, a child is taught it’s childish to blow up in public and to control their anger.

    Now word is gane to the bauld Keeper,
    In Branksome Ha’, where that he lay,
    That Lord Scroop has ta’en the Kinmont Willie,
    Between the hours of night and day.

    He has ta’en the table wi’ his hand,
    He garr’d the red wine spring on hie—
    “Now Christ’s curse on my head,” he said,
    “But avenged of Lord Scroop I’ll be!

    “O is my basnet a widow’s curc
    Or my lance a wand of the willow tree?
    Or my arm a ladye’s lilye hand,
    That an English lord should lightly me!

  79. Anon[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    My German half is offended not by the presence of Anglo, but by the omission of Saxon.

    Widow and Saxon maid
    Long shall lament our raid,
    Think of Clan-Alpine with fear and with woe;

    Lennox and Leven-glen
    Shake when they hear again,
    ‘Roderigh Vich Alpine dhu, ho! ieroe!’

  80. @Paleo Liberal

    There was a sign outside my building warning drivers not to honk or else a large fine. Of course they ignored it.

    “Improper use of a signaling device”. One of the things Giuliani cracked down on that made NYC just a little bit nicer of a place to live. Enforcement of it was scaled back somewhat under Bloomberg and as far as I can tell stopped entirely under Wilhelm, because racist. The Mating Call of the Third World is now ceaseless.

  81. @Altai

    I think it’s more cultures where public expression of anger isn’t demeaned or even celebrated as macho or a necessity in a low trust society.

    This may be part of it, but I think 3rd worlders generally do not find making noise just for the sake of it to be distasteful. Remember those ghastly “vuvuzelas” when the soccer WC was in South Africa? Or observe blacks in groups here in the US – the shrieking and yelling and sheer volume can be eye-popping.

    White people (some South Americans excepted) are generally raised to view being loud and gratuitously making noise to be obnoxious. A headache-inducing, ear-splitting din is just more vibrant diversity.

    • Replies: @Anon
  82. @ATBOTL

    What would you have suggested they do? Or expand the question – what can whites in any city or state do to stop the [Insert name of 3rd world country here] invasion?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  83. Romanian says: • Website
    @KR

    That’s the kind of story you would publish somewhere to great acclaim!

  84. Romanian says: • Website
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    A guy whose name literally means The Bastard!

  85. Not Raul says:
    @anonn

    I agree.

    By the time Castro took over, my family didn’t have much land left to lose. The “planter-aristocrats”, like Menocal and his ilk, had already stolen a vast majority of our land decades earlier.

    My family neither expected nor received much in the way of handouts when we got here. We arrived with almost nothing, and then worked hard.

    I’m familiar with the “planter-aristocrat” refugees. They are worse than useless. Thankfully, they are a minority.

  86. Not Raul says:
    @Dmitry

    I wonder why NKVD members and denizens of Miami Beach would have such similar taste in architecture.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  87. @The Wild Geese Howard

    I mean I know that’s just a television drama – but in the YouTube comments people are saying the police actually dressed like that in real life.

    Detective Sonny Crockett: That was uncool, lady. That was major uncool.

    But did they talk like this?

  88. TheJester says:

    The Saga of Miami Repeated Again, and Again, and Again Ad Nauseam

    How did the Cubans take over Maimi? Because the Anglos left and it was there for the taking!

    How did Hispanics take over California? Because the Anglos left and it was there for the taking!

    How is a gaggle of alien nationalities currently taking over Virginia? Because the Anglos are leaving and it is there for the taking!

    If America is to survive, Anglos need to respond to the current ethnic invasions with something more potent than pulling up their roots and moving to the suburbs or wherever else they need to go to escape the violence, crime, societal chaos, and civilizational implosion associated with “diversity” and mass immigration.

    The problem is, the invaders chase Anglos wherever they go in search of the “Magic Dirt” that they hope will transform their lives. That’s where the “good stuff” is. But, it’s a never-ending cycle. It will only end when the Anglos hold their ground … or, when there is nowhere else for the Anglos to go … or, when there is no more “Magic Dirt” left to loot.

  89. Anon[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @William Badwhite

    We are more susceptible to nerves, I guess, or just from a culture that values quiet more. I would say it has something to to with the long contemplative tradition in our history but South Americans have this tradition too.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @William Badwhite
  90. @William Badwhite

    The Jester makes the same, silly point infra. It’s no point at all because it’s self-evident what goes on, and ignores the reason for what goes on and why no resistance is offered: those who resist are destroyed by the Man.

    Imagine if, following the massacre at Pearl Harbor, the remnants of the Pacific Fleet regrouped and began working to fight back (as they did) but instead of support from the continent (new ships, more sailors, supplies, repairs, etc.) they were themselves attacked by wave upon wave of ships and aircraft sent from the mainland by the government of the U.S.A., each sunken ship of the Pacific Fleet accompanied by a strident pronouncement from the enraged government in Washington that this was the mete and just fate for all who dared show hate and racism and bigotry by daring say or do anything antagonistic to the oppressed and peaceful Japanese.

    Pick whatever other invasion you like for a metaphor; spare us the irrelevant claims the U.S.A. started the war with Japan. The point – the real point, about both what goes on and why nothing can be done about it, not the facetious point pretending to be baffled by the lack of a defensive reaction – the point stands.

  91. Anonymous[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Some of them just disappeared. Like the star of the original ‘Debbie’. Presumably they’re living respectable middle-class lives somewhere and their neighbors have no idea who they used to be.

  92. Anonymous[110] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    I don’t know if it’s official government policy, but I do remember speaking to an actual Moroccan in Morocco about crazy Muslims who act up in Europe, and he said that in his country they would all be locked up. That kind of behavior is just not tolerated there.

  93. Dmitry says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    I’m surprised Hollywood does not currently establish more films in Miami of that epoch.

    Although that is supposed to be a bad and idiotic television drama (I have not seen it personally), the aesthetics mix is just intoxicating : Italian sports cars, Armani suits, art deco architecture, and cuban women, and cigars. .

    From looking in the buildings in the background, though, it looks like the art deco architecture was very shabby and dilapidated in that epoch.

    At 1:00 – 1:30 they are driving in an art deco area, but the buildings were so dilapidated in 1986

    Now these areas of Miami seem beautiful renovated – at 13:20

  94. Dmitry says:
    @Dmitry

    It’s lucky Miami art deco survived in the 1980s, and partly because of help from Miami Vice.

    In the 1970s and 1980s, many of these once-proud edifices were being sacrificed in the name of urban renewal. Historic preservation seemed as foreign a concept to the Miami Beach establishment as snow removal. This willingness to bulldoze all traces of South Beach’s Art Deco history fostered an increasingly charged and contentious political climate on this sun-soaked barrier island.

    The opening salvo in this war for preservation was fired in 1976 when Capitman and others banded together to form the Miami Design Preservation League. Three years later the preservationists won their first major victory when a one-square-mile piece of real estate was designated the South Beach Art Deco Historic District and placed on the National Historic Register. It was the first time a collection of 20th-century buildings had achieved such rarified status.

    But developers would keep the pressure on, and South Beach’s preservation movement suffered a major — albeit temporary — setback in 1981 when The New Yorker Hotel fell to the wrecking ball amid a chorus of protests. Ultimately, razing The New Yorker, considered by many to be the best work of legendary local Art Deco architect Henry Hohauser, rallied public support for even tougher protection measures.

    Preservationists also gained an unexpected ally in the 1980s with the success of the TV series “Miami Vice,” which is credited by many with turning the tide of war permanently.

    Viewers fell in love with director Michael Mann’s liberal use of Art Deco locations as backdrops for shooting the series. Suddenly, before you could say “Crockett and Tubbs,” South Beach and Art Deco were synonymous with chic all over again, and promoters wasted no time reintroducing the world to Miami Beach’s latest incarnation of glitz and sophistication.

    https://www.deseret.com/2005/4/24/19888093/art-deco-miami-beach-s-architectural-heritage

  95. Anon[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Where have all the comments gone, (long time passing) …
    Unz mods pinched them every one (long time ago)…

  96. @Reg Cæsar

    Da Do Ron Ron Done?
    (No, Not Ron *Unz*)

    -another [Ron] Saxon bites the dust:

    https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2005/10/10/daily11.html

    https://www.twincities.com/2018/03/01/met-council-forgives-1-million-loan-to-st-paul-for-old-saxon-ford-site/

    My late father-in-law, who was reportedly screwed out of getting his own car dealership by his brother-in-law, worked for many years at a Pontiac place. The Pontiac brand, like Chief Pontiac, is, unfortunately extinct, unlike the obsolescent troll and windbag, Obwandiyag. Searches for businesses named for the Germanic Jutes returned only vegetable fiber crap.

    [MORE]

    OB
    (old business)
    Regarding the old Chet chatter, when you gave an opinion that Herbert Hoover should have got a Nobel Peace Prize, thoughts turned to a badge-button probably still somewhere around here: “Let The Red Bastards Starve!” (no, not feather Indians]) and to a rebuttal that unlike Hoover’s successor, he didn’t screw over the CHETniks (no doubt a nasty bunch and bad guys in Force 10 From Navarone) in favor of Tito’s scumbags. Also, someone familiar with Mendota Heights libraries must have surely run across this Lilydale somewhat late-closing attraction:
    https://chets-liquor-drive-in.business.site/

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  97. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Noveau Riche Gauche?

    Tony upgrades:

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  98. jim jones says:
    @Dmitry

    The Testarossa is an unpleasant car to drive because of the very poor visibility. The easiest cars to drive have the driver perched high up with a good view of the road ahead.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  99. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @jim jones

    Very few exotics are really all that fun to drive except on a race course with no one else on the track. The Testarossa is basically the old 365/512 Boxer with much wider and uglier bodywork.

  100. Thea says:

    I grew up in South Florida in the 80s. It was not really a healthy environment for children. The schools were awful, the crime was high, the general culture was geared towards being rude and ripping people off(mostly tourists.)

    It was such a horrible shock to move there from lovely, friendly homogeneous Pittsburgh.

    There is a strong “I’m not my brother’s keeper” spirit that permeates the muggy heat.

  101. @Anonymous

    I disagree, when Acura released the NSX it was viewed as a game changer. Near exotic performance with comfort and reliability. I heard a story that Ferrari bought a couple NSX’s and reverse engineered them. Shortly Ferrari released the 360 which was a major step up in comfort and reliability.

    For example the 355 (predecessor to the 360) required removal of the engine for a timing belt service. Also known as the removal of wallet service. In two generations the 458 is super comfortable except for the stiff tires, it has no timing belts to replace (timing chain) and has a wet clutch like a motorcycle, which should last the life of the car. Electronics keep the driver out of trouble unless he is foolish and turns from “race mode” to “CSR off”.

    Most Ferrari’s still lack cruise control though, and the cup holders are a joke

  102. @Anonymous

    Correct.

    Some folks on YouTube have detailed why the Testarossa is probably more fun to look at than to drive every day:

    Also, by modern standards the Testarossa is not all that fast. These days you can buy an off-lease CPO BMW or Porsche SUV that will easily run with it in a straight line per zeroto60times.com.

  103. @Dmitry

    Although that is supposed to be a bad and idiotic television drama (I have not seen it personally), the aesthetics mix is just intoxicating : Italian sports cars, Armani suits, art deco architecture, and cuban women, and cigars. .

    I wouldn’t say Vice was bad and idiotic, maybe a bit goofy at times, but go watch Cocaine Cowboys and you’ll see that the reality of early to mid-80s Miami sometimes went even further than Vice.

    I would add that Vice was also hugely innovative in terms of its use of cinematography and music. Jan Hammer’s score was brilliantly done, particularly the opening title theme and Crockett’s Theme.

    You also had sequences like the end of the episode, “Definitely Miami,” that made outstanding use of the Motor City Madman Ted Nugent, perfect French dish Arielle Dombasle, the Bren Ten 10mm pistol vs Colt .45 1911, Ferarri Daytona vs. Corvette C4, and of course 10cc’s “Cry”:

    One of the more well-regarded arcs was when Crockett started living as one of his undercover identities after a series of personal and professional traumas. The scene where he begins snapping out of his mental fog makes great use of Kate Bush/Peter Gabriel’s, “Don’t Give Up”:

    Goosebumps from 2:38 to 2:58 when his former colleagues draw down on Crockett while the track plays.

    “….I remember a boat….”

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @Harry Baldwin
  104. @Anon

    Nah. Noise can be a form of pollution. Making a ceaseless din is similar to throwing garbage everywhere, and both are common for 3rd worlders.

    • Agree: JudgeSmails
    • Replies: @Anon
  105. jim jones says:
    @Anonymous

    Motorcycles are more fun than cars, I rode a Kawasaki for a few years until the fear outweighed the fun:

    • Replies: @JudgeSmails
  106. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @William Badwhite

    Throwing garbage everywhere was common for first-worlders until about a century ago, so the monosyllable shouldn’t be Nah but perhaps Yah or Bah.

    God ha’ mercy on such as we,
    Baa! Yah! Bah!

    https://qz.com/1025640/hogs/

  107. @jim jones

    Motorcycles are more fun than cars, I rode a Kawasaki for a few years until the fear outweighed the fun:

    Maybe until your prefrontal cortex fully matured?

    • Replies: @scrivener3
  108. Dmitry says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    I wouldn’t say Vice was bad and idiotic, maybe a bit goofy

    I have not seen it.

    But my general impression is that old television dramas are quite bad (I recently tried to watch X-Files, but had to stop after a few episodes).

    Just as films were much better in the 1980s, it seems that television was a lot worse compared to today.

    Since that epoch, television dramas (American ones only) seem to have become so much better, and films (in every country) much worse. So that today television dramas are often better than films, while in the 1980s such a situation would have appeared to be absurd.

    cinematography and music. Jan Hammer’s score was brilliantly

    Yes – although 1980s pop music in almost everything, was so much better than today – it makes me even nostalgic for a time before I was born.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  109. Dmitry says:
    @Not Raul

    These styles (Art Deco, Constructivism and Bauhaus), were the most futuristic and exciting “dreams of the future” of the 1920s and 1930s.

    Ironically, our attraction today, is because it looks so old and “classic” and reminds us of the 1920s/30s, in the sense that past dreams of future become outdated (and therefore “time specific”) even faster than past realities.

    In 1920s/early 30-s, Ekaterinburg was envisaged as a city of the future. (Perhaps 1920s Miami had a similar dream?). However, rapidly after “Stalinist vampire” style is predominant (which is mix of more traditional, monumental and eclectic style), and constructivism becomes an architecture of the past.

    A few classics have been renovated though – such as Felix Dzerzhinsky Palace of Culture, where even the elegant constructivist staircase is preserved, reminding a bit of Tatlin’s tower.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  110. Dmitry says:
    @reactionry

    Aesthetics of 1980s were too powerful to be limited to nouveau riche Cubans. To look at the photographs, even the most London vieux riches had powerful aesthetics in those years.

    • Replies: @reactionry
    , @Chrisnonymous
  111. Not Raul says:
    @Dmitry

    That’s a neat looking building. Thanks for the pictures.

    I guess the fact that Miami was a boom town in the 1920s goes a long way in accounting for the architectural style.

    • Replies: @scrivener3
  112. @reactionry

    Also, someone familiar with Mendota Heights libraries

    Mendota Heights doesn’t have a library:

    https://www.co.dakota.mn.us/libraries/HoursLocations/Pages/default.aspx

    Yes, I have been to Chet’s, though Osteria I Nonni across the highway is classier.

  113. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Director Michael Mann, a gun enthusiast who competed in the Southwest Combat Pistol League, choreographs gunfights better than anyone. He used IPSC shooter Jim Zubiena to play a hitman in one of the most memorable scenes on Miami Vice. Zubiena fires what Jeff Cooper dubbed a “Mozambique”– two shots to the body, one to the head.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  114. “It was also the year of the great riot. Angered by the exoneration of four white policemen who had killed a black insurance man, the residents of Liberty City, a predominantly black section of Miami, launched what was arguably the worst race riot of this century. It wasn’t just a civil protest. Blacks went out specifically to get whites, to assault them, to kill them. Some whites were doused with gasoline and set on fire. Some were beaten senseless in the street and run over, repeatedly. Nobody in Liberty City apologized. ”

    Well, this is bullshit. I grew up in S. Florida from 1978 onwards… the race riots were between Haitian (blacks) and “more white” Cubans… The four officers mentioned were light skinned Cubans (i.e. not descended from slaves, but Spaniards)…. but this is conveniently overlooked both then and now

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  115. @Harry Baldwin

    Mann was able to have Tom Cruise train to a point where he convincingly did the Mozambique failure drill in Collateral:

    Note the politically correct street thugs.

    Mann’s Miami Vice movie wasn’t bad, but the aesthetic was far too close to Heat and Collateral for most people’s tastes. The modern soundtrack and the lack of chemistry between the male leads did not help, nor did Gong Li’s horrible English pronunciation.

  116. @JudgeSmails

    My wife calls motorcyclists “organ doners”

  117. @Not Raul

    No no no, Miami Beach was a middle/lower class vacation spot, like Wildwood NJ. Look at the Art Deco Hotels lining Ocean Drive closely, I stayed in them. All the size and luxury of a roadside motel. Now they are like historical jewels and money can certainly make the lobby and the bar/restaurant pretty nice. But the rooms are tiny, low ceilings, small windows, no pools, landmark status prevents them from changing those indicators of low class vacation spot.

    Originally, some developer bought up the land of the beach and convinced the powers that be to build a causeway connecting it to the mainland. Tiny crowded hotels popped up for working people to get to experience the beach.

    Funny it is now the American Monaco, the only American World class resort city.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    , @Dmitry
  118. @tazman69er

    Light-skinned Cubans descended from Spaniards, not slaves. Sounds kind of whitish to me.

  119. @Dmitry

    Di could of course easily afford those hats (assuming they weren’t gifts), however this poor American naval widow had to scrape by:

  120. @Dmitry

    The 80s were an interesting and singular time. Sorry you missed them. Your choice of photos is very telling. Much as I despise the Prince Harry-Markle pairing, she frequently dresses in good taste. Princess Kate often looks goofy, but also dresses more femininely. These clown outfits you’ve posted are remarkable for their outlandishness but also their inherently androgenous formlessness. The 80s were a bit like a live comic-book, with the fashion and entertainment often pointing toward our fantasy lives. It was not a beautiful time, which is interesting because it was not unpleasant to live through. I think it would have been if society had disintegrated to the extent it has now. Gender-bending, for example, played out among musicians and in academic discourse, but the lives of most people remained bourgeois.

    On architecture, I thunk we are nostalgic for beauty. Nobody is really nostalgic for Bauhaus.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  121. Not Raul says:
    @scrivener3

    Have you been to Destin? Beautiful beaches.

  122. Anon[335] • Disclaimer says:

    Geez, I thought I was reading an article by Steve Sailor, in the Unz Review, comparing the NY Times’ current stance on immigration with its position 35 years ago. That would have been a hell of an article! Instead I was subjected to 620 words of so-so commentary and 3450 words of text lifted from various other sources. If I tried that trick my editors would have sent me packing long ago.

  123. Dmitry says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    androgenous formlessness.

    Although women in the 1980s are dressing with a hypermasculine style. I think it’s an opposite of the current trend – where men are dressing feminine style.

    fashion and entertainment often pointing toward our fantasy lives.

    I think it becomes a lot more formal compared to the clothes of the 1970s years.

    Also in the music and films, there is more optimistic and futurist sound and lyrics in the 1980s.

    And when you look at the expensive “haut bourgeois” fashion in the 1980s, it could be one of the most cool epoch of all time.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  124. Dmitry says:
    @scrivener3

    From looking at videos, the tourists in Miami who you see in the streets, do not look bourgeois – it looks like people from nearby Southern states? For example, I assume all the African American tourists from Georgia, are going to Miami for vacation? (Although they are wearing smart clothes for their vacation).

    Obviously, the residents and people who own property are very bourgeois .

    He is walking where the Art Deco hotels of South Beach are, from about 8:00

  125. @Dmitry

    Yes, that’s interesting that, as you point out, the 80s were more female androgeny compared to male androgeny of the current time.

    I agree that the 80s were cool, but that is why the styles lacked the elegance or femininity of other times.

    In Japan, they frequently broadcast compilations of singers through the decades. Even in another culture, the optimism and youth of the 80s is transmitted in pop culture.

    I can’t deny the 80s’ attraction, but I can’t endorse the period either. But I think it poses a very interesting question–can that optimism exist again in a context that conservatives could find amenable? I am inclined to say “no”, and that the 80s were a special time when naive youth and conservative impulses could come together under the umbrella of struggle and triumphalism in a unique synergy. It was an inherently unstable time that was destined to disintegrate. I’d wager future historians will see the 1990s as a period of correction delayed because of the Internet. I think, perhaps, Hipsterism, a long shallow recession, and derivative film, music, and art are the natural heirs of the 80s, delayed a decade-and-a-half because of Microsoft, Verizon, and the NYSE.

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