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What if … Trump’s North Korea policy turns out to be a huge success, the economy continues to boom, the GOP maintains control of the House this fall, in October 2019 Trump shares the Nobel Peace Prize with the North and South Korean leaders, and the next day he announces that, mission accomplished, he is retiring and not running for re-election even though he would win?

Who runs instead? Who wins?

 
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  1. >>What if … Trump’s North Korea policy turns out to be a huge success, the economy continues to boom, the GOP maintains control of the House this fall, in October 2019 Trump shares the Nobel Peace Prize with the North and South Korean leaders, and the next day he announces that, mission accomplished, he is retiring and not running for re-election even though he would win?

    I’m a pessimist, and a Trump supporter. Even if all the good comes to pass, and Trump decides to run, there is a good chance that he will lose. It was just a few ten thousand in key states that won him the White House. Will they be around 2 years from now?

  2. I have it on good authority from people in a position to know that substantially all of the big money Democrats are now behind Kamala and the way the DNC nominating process is set up the person the money people want always wins. So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.

    • Replies: @bartok

    So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.
     
    Good. She's beatable.

    Trumpian nicknames: Homewrecker Harris or Kamala Concubine (re: Willie Brown). She honestly won't see it coming - no one besides iSteve has ever brought up her past like that. It would be a War on Women.
    , @Rosie

    Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.
     
    I wonder what margin of victory Trump would need among White women to shut Whiskey up once and for all. You would have thought the fact that Clinton only got 51% of their votes, despite massively outspending her opponent with the entire MSM in her corner, might have done the trick.
    , @AndrewR
    The Republicans just need a better looking mare [not hard to find]
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp7ULj8JGpE

    Listen from 2:30 on. Harris has quite a patriotic view of America and its history. She doesn't even make any qualifications. She hates the country, its founding, its founders etc. Which may play to 51% of Californians, but not every place in America. Not yet. Trump has the balls to put this clip in a campaign ad and run it on prime time TV. Though it shouldn't take balls; just common sense. If McCain weren't afraid of being called a racist, he would have run campaign ads featuring Rev. Wright screaming "Goddamn America" etc 24/7. But McCain is a pathetic little bitch (of the dead and dying, only the truth!) who knew his media pals would never have forgiven him if he had beaten Obama so he didn't campaign to win.

    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    I'll just leave this here: https://www.brides.com/story/kamala-harris-husband-douglas-emhoff
    , @AnotherDad

    I have it on good authority from people in a position to know that substantially all of the big money Democrats are now behind Kamala
     
    This would be absolutely awesome. It--and the accompanying media spew of hate toward pale-penis-people--would really bring a big dose of reality home to a lot of "centrist"--i.e. complacent, stupid--and even some complacent liberal white people.
  3. Looks like Patrick Little.

  4. You know what Steve, I think you really ought to write a book about this famously reclusive, inscrutable president to try to discern what he’s going to do next, like you did for the last guy.

    Maybe this can form part of the thesis of such a book – All else being equal, will being president in 2021-2024 tend to maximize the publicity and attention centered on Donald Trump as he accomplishes things, or are there other possibilities that would somehow eclipse that? And if so, might this somehow influence his decision to run again?

    We’ll need all the intellectual horsepower of a National Merit Scholar burning brightly to determine if Trump is without ego enough to be able to contentedly stand with Jimmy Carter against Obama’s two terms.

    • Replies: @inertial
    The title of the book should be another Harry Potter reference.

    America's Goblet of Fire?
    America's Chamber of Secrets?

    I hope Steve won't need to name it America's Prisoner of Azkaban.
  5. The incumbent rarely loses unless there is a third party like in 1992. 1980 was a once in a lifetime aberration.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    The incumbent rarely loses unless there is a third party like in 1992. 1980 was a once in a lifetime aberration.
     
    I think you're probably correct here, but in fairness I don't think anyone in June of 1990 thought the 1992 Presidential election would be a three-way race, so it's possible we may face one of those in 2020 as well. But I tend to doubt it.
    , @TWS
    Were you around then because I vividly remember the humiliation of the Carter years. It was not an aberration but repudiation of the feckless peanut farmer.
  6. Kanye?

    • Replies: @songbird
    I think Kanye would actually make an interesting third party candidate, if he could get enough votes to be on stage in a debate with the other two candidates.

    I'm not saying elect him, but merely he's a loose cannon and would probably muck up things for the Democrats, so I'm all in favor of him running.
  7. Trump has done nothing to articulate a governance philosophy, so any successes he has will be chalked up to chance or his unique person. There is no national figure right now who could claim to continue what Trump started.

    Sans Trump, the GOP will probably revert to nominating one of the usual suspects. Maybe Ted Cruz will come back. Reverting to form will discourage the Trump-aligned part of the party, which will stay home. “Lose with Cruz.”

  8. Four years is too short a time for real change. No doubt little Marco, low energy Jeb, lyin’ Ted Cruz, 1 for 38 Kasich et al. will collect enough swamp money to try again.

    The only ones in Trump’s entourage that show real backbone are women. I don’t really care for Nikki Haley, but I kind of like Sarah Huckabee-Sanders. Run her against Kamala Harris. I’d bet on Sarah against Kamala in both Presidential debates and wrestling.

    Seriously, how about James “Maddog” Mattis?

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Seriously, how about James “Maddog” Mattis?
     
    He'd probably be willing to pay god money to NOT be President, would be my guess.
    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    Sarah Huckabee Sanders, seriously???

    Well it's your country...just hope you weren't one of the Obama's unqualified crowd...there's a word for that you know.
  9. Rand Paul

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Here is the cuck "Detroit Republican" running away from Dreamers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U17y5O-3CxI
  10. Steve Sailer

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @anonymous
    Whiskey!
  11. Jeanine Pirro?

    Or how about a Trump-Pirro ’20 ticket?

  12. The Nobel committee will try to ignore Trump out of hatred for his politics and embarrassment that they gave the Prize to his immediate predecessor, and on the basis of nothing at that. Giving it to two consecutive US Presidents will just spotlight how stupid it was giving it to Obama.
    If Korea achieves peace, I would expect that the committee would award the prize to Kim and Moon as the leaders of Korea who courageously buried the hatchet and brought reconciliation.
    Kamala Harris was selected as the choice for next Democratic President when she was selected to be US Senator. (California is effectively a single party State so the California Democratic committee essentially decides who will hold the offices that are filled by statewide vote.) Its the same model under which Obama was selected.
    I think Trump will run again and he has a good shot at beating Harris since she is so unlikable and rigidly ideological. People aren’t ready for Obama in panties. Trump’s re-election will therefore hinge on his ability to keep us out of wars and deliver on immigration and trade. Now if the Democrats weren’t so anti-White they would select Kirsten Gillibrand who would be much more likely to beat Trump with her more reasonable politics and her looks and personality.
    If Trump chooses not to run, then I think Cruz will continue his political migration to all out Trumpism and get the nomination. The old line cuckservative Republicans are no longer acceptable to the party populists.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Now if the Democrats weren’t so anti-White they would select Kirsten Gillibrand who would be much more likely to beat Trump with her more reasonable politics and her looks and personality.
     
    Senator Gillibrand seems to have put on substantial weight in recent years. I think that's a solid indication she does not intend to seek national office.
    , @PhysicistDave
    Alfa158 wrote:

    Now if the Democrats weren’t so anti-White they would select Kirsten Gillibrand who would be much more likely to beat Trump with her more reasonable politics and her looks and personality.
     
    I used to think that Gillibrand had a winning personality and presidential ambitions.

    But, she has been doing some rather goofy things recently -- like dropping "F-bombs" in public : I don't think the American public is quite ready for this in a President.

    Kamala Harris seems to be good in front of a camera, which may be all that matters.

    Of course, it will largely depend on the economy: we're clearly in a bubble right now -- unnaturally low interest and unemployment rates resulting in unnaturally high DJIA and housing prices. I think the bubble will pop by 2020, but I tend to err on the side of pessimism.
  13. Trump needs 8 years to give the national-conservative wing of the GOP (blood and soul conservatism with economic populism like we are seeing emerge in new rightist parties in Europe) time to get a successor ready.

    It can’t be Pence. Just as Nixon knew from Day 1 that Agnew couldn’t be his successor, Trump has to be ready to revert to the older pattern where the vice presidency is *not* a particularly great stepping stone. But Nixon wanted Connally, while Trump should want…

    Pompeo-Kobach sounds good in 2024. Can we bring that forward to 2020? I think Greitens was positioning himself to be the next generation Trumpist, but he blew it. A Vice President Kobach would only be 58 in 2024.

  14. @Whitney
    Kanye?

    I think Kanye would actually make an interesting third party candidate, if he could get enough votes to be on stage in a debate with the other two candidates.

    I’m not saying elect him, but merely he’s a loose cannon and would probably muck up things for the Democrats, so I’m all in favor of him running.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    Kanye should run with John McAfee
    , @Tyrion 2
    Kanye should run for Senator in 2020 on the Republican ticket in Tammy Duckworth's seat. He would win easily, being Senator is a good first move and he'd certainly bring a different perspective to the national debate.
  15. Anonymous[298] • Disclaimer says:

    Your columns often reference New York Times articles. Some parts of their business are up. Have you seen a ratchet effect in the Sailer or Unz business since the election?

    Quoted by Andrew Keen in his book How To Fix The Future, originally from a Politico author.

    “Since the election of Donald Trump in November 2016, the rate of sale of Times subscriptions is up more than tenfold, raising overall subscriptions to 2.5 million subscribers, adding more than $30 million a year, and now meaning that subscriptions make up more than 60 percent of the company’s revenue.”

  16. No wall. No retirement.

    He’s got to make a full effort on that or he can’t be considered successful.

  17. Don Jr. will likely be his successor as leader of the Trumpist movement, and likely as president. He seems to be the Trump kid who was genuinely having a good time on the campaign trail. He’s also a moderately entertaining alt-right twitter troll. The citizenist vote is finally woke to the precariousness of demography in this country and will coalesce around the Trump name and all of its connotations for an entire generation. It’ll be POTUS DJT thru 2024 and POTUS DJTJr thru 2032. You heard it here first. Dynastic politics is tasteless but an easy-to-remember family name might be the only way to push even a nominally nationalist agenda through all the noise and distraction in today’s political system.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Edward Luttwak thinks Ivanka will be the successor.
    , @larry lurker
    No chance in hell. I had to look up a YouTube video of Don Jr. just now to remember what he even sounds like. No charisma, not compelling, totally forgettable.
  18. Anybody think Arkansas Senator Cotton will ever have a shot at the White House? He’s still fairly young, a veteran, and I believe he’s rather Trumpist on immigration.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Cotton is better than Trump on immigration.
  19. Trump will win the Nobel Price Prize when…well, when something that ain’t gonna happen happens.

  20. I cringe that the Norks will outfox him. At least get a stop to any and all ICBM testing and SLBMs.

  21. anonymous[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius
    Steve Sailer

    Whiskey!

  22. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    in October 2019 Trump shares the Nobel Peace Prize with the North and South Korean leaders

    Nah. Next to impossible. You are still a bit of an idealist, Steve. The polite society will go through any, and I mean it, any contortions to not award a Nobel to Trump. That is by far the safest way to bet.

    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Good. They'd be in the position of having given it to a black bench-warmer who thinks that the Second Amendment doesn't apply to civilians and having not given it to the man who ended the Korean War. The only people who would have any patience for such a ridiculous disparity would be Rigoberta Menchu cultists.
  23. I just don’t see this scenario happening unless the Europeans got so fed up with their feckless leaders that they all write-in Donald Trump onto their ballots during their next round of elections and he is unexpectedly elected God-Emperor of Western Europe. That would be about the only thing that could entice him away from another four year go at the US Presidency.

    But in any case, the difficulty of answering this question is being able to predict who Trump would designate as his successor to continue Keeping America Great as well as predict which Deep State stooges are still eligible to run because they aren’t convicted felons in 2020. Too many variables.

    Rand Paul would presumably run, and probably Marco Rubio even though he isn’t eligible.

  24. Not sure who would be nominated for the GOP, but whoever it is they lose in that scenario.

    It sure looks to me like the Dems are gearing up to nominate Kamala Harris, but I think Trump can beat her in the Electoral College although he’d lose the popular vote again. The Dems are counting on her getting women and minorities to show up at the polls, but from what I’ve seen she has about the same amount of charm as Hilary, which is a major handicap, and her personal story is not as compelling as Obama’s was.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas

    It sure looks to me like the Dems are gearing up to nominate Kamala Harris, but I think Trump can beat her in the Electoral College although he’d lose the popular vote again. The Dems are counting on her getting women and minorities to show up at the polls, but from what I’ve seen she has about the same amount of charm as Hilary, which is a major handicap, and her personal story is not as compelling as Obama’s was.
     
    I think this is the obvious and wrong choice for Democrats (and therefore I hope they do it). Obama was sui generis - the unicorn of Hope and Change. People seem to have gotten the guilt trip out of their systems and paid for the expiation of racial guilt with the better part of a decade of an anemic economy and increased racial strife. Trump seems to have broken that spell and if the economy continues on its trajectory or even picks up more steam it'd be a difficult to sell a return to Obamanism.

    Harris is fairly far Left as well - I see her getting caught between where she is and a few further Left candidates now that the Superdelegate system has been exposed to Democrat voters for what it is. It's going to be difficult for any preordained Democrat Presidential candidate to win a primary while simultaneously not alienating primary voters who get turned off by how the primary was fixed.
    , @Faraday's Bobcat
    Harris is kind of black and used to date a famous black guy but then decided to marry a Jewish guy. No doubt she'll try to exploit that somehow, but when she does, she'll end up like Wile E. Coyote slamming into a wall on his rocket skates. President Shitposter will make sure of that.
    , @Neuday
    Considering the steep and likely terminal decline of California, I'm surprised anyone holding a statewide position would be seriously considered for national office, even if they do have the correct skin color and genitalia.
  25. If you’re Trump, why take the chance? If the plan is to hand off the Presidency to a worthy successor, it’d make more sense for Trump to run in 2020 (doing what he seems to enjoy the most) with a hand-picked Vice Presidential candidate (assuming not Pence), point to the great record and get elected. Then resign after a year or so on some pretext like a health condition.

    Trump also has an incentive to make sure that his successor is a Republican loyal to him – restoring a Democrat to the White House and DOJ probably ensures that they’ll indict him for something once he’s out of office to punish him for winning even if nothing comes of the Mueller charade.

    In lieu of Pence as a Vice Presidential Candidate, Maybe General Kelly? He’s seemed pretty Trumpian lately.

  26. Pence and Pence.

    But would Trump decide not to run again without a wall? Wouldn’t he feel like he hadn’t accomplished is #1 promise?

  27. Significant change in legal immigration: success. No change/amnesty: failure.

    I’d even take the RAISE Act. If we’re going to get third-worlders, at least I don’t have to worry about the smart ones mugging me (or their children mugging me, if East Indians, Filipinos et al are any indication). Also reducing the overall numbers of legal immigration will slow down the inevitable Democrat takeover. Wait, did I say “success”?

  28. Channeling Judge Nap?

  29. @Anonymous

    in October 2019 Trump shares the Nobel Peace Prize with the North and South Korean leaders
     
    Nah. Next to impossible. You are still a bit of an idealist, Steve. The polite society will go through any, and I mean it, any contortions to not award a Nobel to Trump. That is by far the safest way to bet.

    Good. They’d be in the position of having given it to a black bench-warmer who thinks that the Second Amendment doesn’t apply to civilians and having not given it to the man who ended the Korean War. The only people who would have any patience for such a ridiculous disparity would be Rigoberta Menchu cultists.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Absolutely true but it won't stop them. There isn't a grain of rationality left. That Rubicon was crossed with Obama's Nobel. Things have only gotten worse since.
  30. @Arclight
    Not sure who would be nominated for the GOP, but whoever it is they lose in that scenario.

    It sure looks to me like the Dems are gearing up to nominate Kamala Harris, but I think Trump can beat her in the Electoral College although he'd lose the popular vote again. The Dems are counting on her getting women and minorities to show up at the polls, but from what I've seen she has about the same amount of charm as Hilary, which is a major handicap, and her personal story is not as compelling as Obama's was.

    It sure looks to me like the Dems are gearing up to nominate Kamala Harris, but I think Trump can beat her in the Electoral College although he’d lose the popular vote again. The Dems are counting on her getting women and minorities to show up at the polls, but from what I’ve seen she has about the same amount of charm as Hilary, which is a major handicap, and her personal story is not as compelling as Obama’s was.

    I think this is the obvious and wrong choice for Democrats (and therefore I hope they do it). Obama was sui generis – the unicorn of Hope and Change. People seem to have gotten the guilt trip out of their systems and paid for the expiation of racial guilt with the better part of a decade of an anemic economy and increased racial strife. Trump seems to have broken that spell and if the economy continues on its trajectory or even picks up more steam it’d be a difficult to sell a return to Obamanism.

    Harris is fairly far Left as well – I see her getting caught between where she is and a few further Left candidates now that the Superdelegate system has been exposed to Democrat voters for what it is. It’s going to be difficult for any preordained Democrat Presidential candidate to win a primary while simultaneously not alienating primary voters who get turned off by how the primary was fixed.

  31. Kris Kobach – Steve King.

    We need to put more pressure on Trump right now to start the wall. When he has his rallies, people should only chant “build the wall.”

  32. @George
    Rand Paul

    Here is the cuck “Detroit Republican” running away from Dreamers.

  33. People thinking a neck snapping insane leftist like Harris is going to be anything but meat for Trump highlights why the larger body of the commentariat here can be safely ignored, re: politics.

    One of Trump’s powers is the ability to talk people into lighting themselves on fire. We saw it with the DACA talk, where the Left went fully insane and became the monster raving anarchy party that wants to import IS to your back yard. Even Hillary, who should have known better, couldn’t help herself.

    So you people think Trump is going to lose against the caricature of every offacious affirmative action petty bureaucrat anyone has had to deal with? The woman who, in the best of circumstances, has problems stringing together coherent sentences? AHAHAHAH.

    Gosh damn, y’all here are more worshipful of black women than SJWs. Some of you in this thread who were eeyores in the last go around should probably sit this one, just saying.

    Steve, to answer your question: that is the real challenge facing the Republicans. Id like a mercenary king like Eric Prince myself, or Kris Kobach. John Kelly as well.

    If the Repubs go forward with say MIA LOVE as the face of the party, we’ve been in a holding pattern for 8 years before this national dislike gets serious. Prepare accordingly.

  34. @Anonym
    You know what Steve, I think you really ought to write a book about this famously reclusive, inscrutable president to try to discern what he's going to do next, like you did for the last guy.

    Maybe this can form part of the thesis of such a book - All else being equal, will being president in 2021-2024 tend to maximize the publicity and attention centered on Donald Trump as he accomplishes things, or are there other possibilities that would somehow eclipse that? And if so, might this somehow influence his decision to run again?

    We'll need all the intellectual horsepower of a National Merit Scholar burning brightly to determine if Trump is without ego enough to be able to contentedly stand with Jimmy Carter against Obama's two terms.

    The title of the book should be another Harry Potter reference.

    America’s Goblet of Fire?
    America’s Chamber of Secrets?

    I hope Steve won’t need to name it America’s Prisoner of Azkaban.

  35. In this scenario, the GOP keeps the white house regardless of nominee or incumbency.

    Pence would be the logical standard bearer.

  36. @Hockamaw
    I have it on good authority from people in a position to know that substantially all of the big money Democrats are now behind Kamala and the way the DNC nominating process is set up the person the money people want always wins. So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.

    So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.

    Good. She’s beatable.

    Trumpian nicknames: Homewrecker Harris or Kamala Concubine (re: Willie Brown). She honestly won’t see it coming – no one besides iSteve has ever brought up her past like that. It would be a War on Women.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Trumpian nicknames: Homewrecker Harris or Kamala Concubine (re: Willie Brown). She honestly won’t see it coming – no one besides iSteve has ever brought up her past like that. It would be a War on Women.
     
    Back in the 90s (or maybe even in the first half of the previous decade), the San Francisco Chronicle and other Bay Area media outlets made rude noises about the advisability of electing Willie Brown's girlfriend to high office. They'd never do that now, of course. But even liberals used to balk at such things, and are on record as having done so. I believe Herb Caen made some choice remarks on the topic, for example. So it would be that much easier for Trump to follow suit.
    , @Tyrion 2
    Kamala Harris could easily be elected President.

    All she has to do is campaign to moderate immigration, end affirmative action and say how much she likes your country and its people a lot.

    Ha.
  37. Kamala Harris/ Starbuck’s Howard Schultz defeats Pence/ Whoever.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Chances are pretty good that Kamala has a few skeletons in the closet. That alone might be sufficient.
  38. @Arclight
    Not sure who would be nominated for the GOP, but whoever it is they lose in that scenario.

    It sure looks to me like the Dems are gearing up to nominate Kamala Harris, but I think Trump can beat her in the Electoral College although he'd lose the popular vote again. The Dems are counting on her getting women and minorities to show up at the polls, but from what I've seen she has about the same amount of charm as Hilary, which is a major handicap, and her personal story is not as compelling as Obama's was.

    Harris is kind of black and used to date a famous black guy but then decided to marry a Jewish guy. No doubt she’ll try to exploit that somehow, but when she does, she’ll end up like Wile E. Coyote slamming into a wall on his rocket skates. President Shitposter will make sure of that.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    The debate will be akin to the final rap-battle at the end of 8 Mile:

    Trump: Now tell these people something they don't know about me.

    Kamala: *silence*
  39. Who runs instead? Who wins?

    Pence, Cotton, and Cruz are the top three contenders for the GOP nomination. The winner is either Pence or Cotton.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Pence, Cotton, and Cruz are the top three contenders for the GOP nomination. The winner is either Pence or Cotton.
     
    "Pick Cotton" will go over like a lead balloon with blacks. But I guess they ain't voting Republican anyway.
  40. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Good. They'd be in the position of having given it to a black bench-warmer who thinks that the Second Amendment doesn't apply to civilians and having not given it to the man who ended the Korean War. The only people who would have any patience for such a ridiculous disparity would be Rigoberta Menchu cultists.

    Absolutely true but it won’t stop them. There isn’t a grain of rationality left. That Rubicon was crossed with Obama’s Nobel. Things have only gotten worse since.

  41. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clifford Brown
    Kamala Harris/ Starbuck's Howard Schultz defeats Pence/ Whoever.

    Chances are pretty good that Kamala has a few skeletons in the closet. That alone might be sufficient.

  42. I think economic events will intervene before 2020. We’ve got another massive housing bubble about to pop.

    Too much of the economy is based on selling houses to each other.

  43. Economy booming – GREAT. Hoping to see a white birthrate bump as working class whites have more disposable income – not yet happening.

    GOP maintains control of the House this fall – WHERE IS MEANINGFUL IMMIGRATION REFORM?? ALIENS ARE STILL POURING IN.

    Nobel Prize – More virtue signalling and Trump desperate to have his own legacy, and this is something that would be looked upon favourably even by the leftist historians.

    WHERE IS THE WALL? At least end chain migration and anchor babies. All that is great and all, but if Trump cannot deliver on immigration, then I will be extremely disappointed. In fact, he will be a failure in my eyes.

    Any Republican could and would have passed these tax cuts.

  44. @Coag
    Don Jr. will likely be his successor as leader of the Trumpist movement, and likely as president. He seems to be the Trump kid who was genuinely having a good time on the campaign trail. He’s also a moderately entertaining alt-right twitter troll. The citizenist vote is finally woke to the precariousness of demography in this country and will coalesce around the Trump name and all of its connotations for an entire generation. It’ll be POTUS DJT thru 2024 and POTUS DJTJr thru 2032. You heard it here first. Dynastic politics is tasteless but an easy-to-remember family name might be the only way to push even a nominally nationalist agenda through all the noise and distraction in today’s political system.

    Edward Luttwak thinks Ivanka will be the successor.

    • Replies: @Coag
    Yeah but Luttwak also thought the USSR would never fall. The problem with Ivanka is that she can always be outflanked from the right. Due to Islamophile overreach the generational, worldwide, rightward shift is not nearly finished and in the coming years it’s those who are willing to race to the right who’ll come out on top. In fact an Ivanka campaign will likely try to make a self-defeating run for the left and consist of a series of condemnations and disavowals of right wing rhetoric. Of course people can always change but at this point it’s hard to imagine Ivanka doubling down on MAGA, while Don Jr. is a known alt-right rabble rouser who has a lot of fight in him whether in social media or in person, as a regular at Trump rallies and on political talk shows. Pugnacious Don Jr., much more so than preppy Democrats Ivanka and Jared, will attract the grand coalition of rust belt whites and citizenist nonwhites.
    , @Pericles
    Ivanka has to show her troll face first.
  45. What if … Trump’s North Korea policy turns out to be a huge success, the economy continues to boom, the GOP maintains control of the House this fall, in October 2019 Trump shares the Nobel Peace Prize with the North and South Korean leaders, and the next day he announces that, mission accomplished, he is retiring and not running for re-election even though he would win?

    Who runs instead? Who wins?

    That’s a LOT of “ifs.”

    First, Trump will never get the Nobel Peace Prize, because it’s awarded by globalist shitlibs. Trump could walk on water, heal the sick, get crucified and resurrect himself like Jesus Christ — and they still wouldn’t give it to him. So even if his Korea policy is a success, forget that.

    Now, let’s look at the economy. The stock market is a Ponzi scheme and they’re re-inflating the housing bubble. The national debt is $21 trillion and rising. It might do OK until 2020, but that’s hardly guaranteed.

    Last, suppose Trump decides not to run for re-election. Could happen. Trump being who he is, the only thing you can predict is that he’ll be unpredictable.

    If all the rosy scenarios do come to pass and Trump just bails out, I think the country’s basically f—ed. Trump is the little boy with his finger in the dike — except there’s no one coming to the rescue in the morning. Let’s face it, Trump’s election was a fluke. Even the Republicans hated him and thought he would lose. Instead of looking forward to being part of a Trumpist movement through 2024 and beyond, Paul Ryan is bailing out — just as his predecessor Boehner did. That’s a bad omen.

    The Democrats will double down on racial politics and gender identity politics, but the post-Trump Republicans will refuse to explicitly appeal to white people.

    The next Democratic president and Congress will grant citizenship to all the illegals, increase immigration, flip Texas blue, and confiscate all semi-automatic rifles. The United States will be officially finished the next time a Democrat is sworn in.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Yup, Trump is Trump, he is the only one that matters. You really think Ivanka 2020 will have an America first agenda?

    Trump has until 2020 to restrict immigration and increase the whiteness of the country. Quite frankly, I do not believe that an America under 60% white will continue, as we know it. So far, he has tackled one end of the problem - get working class white feeling more economically secure, so the white birth rate will increase. Unfortunately, the white birth rate could be jacked up to 2.5 and it would make no difference, given the massive hordes of coloured immigrants coming in.

    I have an interesting piece of history that many Americans would not know about. During the 19th century in Canada, there was massive Irish and English immigration. French-Canadians had a monstrous, sustained birthrate of 7 children per woman. Even that was not enough to counteract the hordes of Anglos pouring in. To this day, the French people in Canada are regarded as second class citizens. Now imagine if we had a low, sub-replacement, birthrate..... yes, that is what is happening to America (and Canada) right now.

    So Trump has to do something to make the country whiter or at least preserve its existing whiteness. Anything less will be a failure.

    He is the first, last, and only man capable of doing the job. I pray he does, but every day it looks less likely.
    , @MBlanc46
    Your last sentence is spot on. Your penultimate paragraph is true. If the general tone is accurate, even I will probably live to see the demise of the Republic.
  46. Here’s a thought – what if someone else runs, but Trump remains the true power? That could be “fun”.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Maybe Ivanka and Don Jr. will run against each other?
  47. Coag says:
    @Redneck farmer
    Edward Luttwak thinks Ivanka will be the successor.

    Yeah but Luttwak also thought the USSR would never fall. The problem with Ivanka is that she can always be outflanked from the right. Due to Islamophile overreach the generational, worldwide, rightward shift is not nearly finished and in the coming years it’s those who are willing to race to the right who’ll come out on top. In fact an Ivanka campaign will likely try to make a self-defeating run for the left and consist of a series of condemnations and disavowals of right wing rhetoric. Of course people can always change but at this point it’s hard to imagine Ivanka doubling down on MAGA, while Don Jr. is a known alt-right rabble rouser who has a lot of fight in him whether in social media or in person, as a regular at Trump rallies and on political talk shows. Pugnacious Don Jr., much more so than preppy Democrats Ivanka and Jared, will attract the grand coalition of rust belt whites and citizenist nonwhites.

  48. Harris at this point looks unbeatable. Illegals will vote five times for her. And every White woman and non White.

    • Troll: Svigor
  49. @Mitchell Porter
    Here's a thought - what if someone else runs, but Trump remains the true power? That could be "fun".

    Maybe Ivanka and Don Jr. will run against each other?

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    Pence-Kudlow
    , @Pericles
    Don Jr as Republican, Ivanka as Democrat ... I'd like that.
  50. @Coag
    Don Jr. will likely be his successor as leader of the Trumpist movement, and likely as president. He seems to be the Trump kid who was genuinely having a good time on the campaign trail. He’s also a moderately entertaining alt-right twitter troll. The citizenist vote is finally woke to the precariousness of demography in this country and will coalesce around the Trump name and all of its connotations for an entire generation. It’ll be POTUS DJT thru 2024 and POTUS DJTJr thru 2032. You heard it here first. Dynastic politics is tasteless but an easy-to-remember family name might be the only way to push even a nominally nationalist agenda through all the noise and distraction in today’s political system.

    No chance in hell. I had to look up a YouTube video of Don Jr. just now to remember what he even sounds like. No charisma, not compelling, totally forgettable.

  51. @Hockamaw
    I have it on good authority from people in a position to know that substantially all of the big money Democrats are now behind Kamala and the way the DNC nominating process is set up the person the money people want always wins. So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.

    Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.

    I wonder what margin of victory Trump would need among White women to shut Whiskey up once and for all. You would have thought the fact that Clinton only got 51% of their votes, despite massively outspending her opponent with the entire MSM in her corner, might have done the trick.

  52. Theodore Roosevelt did the same, decided his work was done, entrusted his legacy to someone who seemed like a natural successor, and regretted it badly enough to run again four years later under the banner of a brand new party, splitting the vote and throwing the election to Woodrow Wilson.

    Theodore’s cousin Franklin took the lesson to heart.

  53. @Dr. X

    What if … Trump’s North Korea policy turns out to be a huge success, the economy continues to boom, the GOP maintains control of the House this fall, in October 2019 Trump shares the Nobel Peace Prize with the North and South Korean leaders, and the next day he announces that, mission accomplished, he is retiring and not running for re-election even though he would win?

    Who runs instead? Who wins?
     
    That's a LOT of "ifs."

    First, Trump will never get the Nobel Peace Prize, because it's awarded by globalist shitlibs. Trump could walk on water, heal the sick, get crucified and resurrect himself like Jesus Christ -- and they still wouldn't give it to him. So even if his Korea policy is a success, forget that.

    Now, let's look at the economy. The stock market is a Ponzi scheme and they're re-inflating the housing bubble. The national debt is $21 trillion and rising. It might do OK until 2020, but that's hardly guaranteed.

    Last, suppose Trump decides not to run for re-election. Could happen. Trump being who he is, the only thing you can predict is that he'll be unpredictable.

    If all the rosy scenarios do come to pass and Trump just bails out, I think the country's basically f---ed. Trump is the little boy with his finger in the dike --- except there's no one coming to the rescue in the morning. Let's face it, Trump's election was a fluke. Even the Republicans hated him and thought he would lose. Instead of looking forward to being part of a Trumpist movement through 2024 and beyond, Paul Ryan is bailing out -- just as his predecessor Boehner did. That's a bad omen.

    The Democrats will double down on racial politics and gender identity politics, but the post-Trump Republicans will refuse to explicitly appeal to white people.

    The next Democratic president and Congress will grant citizenship to all the illegals, increase immigration, flip Texas blue, and confiscate all semi-automatic rifles. The United States will be officially finished the next time a Democrat is sworn in.

    Yup, Trump is Trump, he is the only one that matters. You really think Ivanka 2020 will have an America first agenda?

    Trump has until 2020 to restrict immigration and increase the whiteness of the country. Quite frankly, I do not believe that an America under 60% white will continue, as we know it. So far, he has tackled one end of the problem – get working class white feeling more economically secure, so the white birth rate will increase. Unfortunately, the white birth rate could be jacked up to 2.5 and it would make no difference, given the massive hordes of coloured immigrants coming in.

    I have an interesting piece of history that many Americans would not know about. During the 19th century in Canada, there was massive Irish and English immigration. French-Canadians had a monstrous, sustained birthrate of 7 children per woman. Even that was not enough to counteract the hordes of Anglos pouring in. To this day, the French people in Canada are regarded as second class citizens. Now imagine if we had a low, sub-replacement, birthrate….. yes, that is what is happening to America (and Canada) right now.

    So Trump has to do something to make the country whiter or at least preserve its existing whiteness. Anything less will be a failure.

    He is the first, last, and only man capable of doing the job. I pray he does, but every day it looks less likely.

  54. I keep waiting for Republicans to learn the lessons of Trump’s win, and to replicate his formula for success. So far, not too much.

    If Trump is not running in 2020, then I expect that someone will figure it out by then.

  55. @songbird
    I think Kanye would actually make an interesting third party candidate, if he could get enough votes to be on stage in a debate with the other two candidates.

    I'm not saying elect him, but merely he's a loose cannon and would probably muck up things for the Democrats, so I'm all in favor of him running.

    Kanye should run with John McAfee

    • Replies: @psmith
    Libertarians really screwed the pooch by going with Aleppo/Fudd, imo.

    Oh well.
  56. @Corn
    Anybody think Arkansas Senator Cotton will ever have a shot at the White House? He’s still fairly young, a veteran, and I believe he’s rather Trumpist on immigration.

    Cotton is better than Trump on immigration.

  57. @Steve Sailer
    Maybe Ivanka and Don Jr. will run against each other?

    Pence-Kudlow

  58. The swamp is shown to be so corrupt that the people ditch the failed Republic, burn D.C. to the ground and install Donald J. Trump Emperor for life.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Trump then conquers England and deposes the House of Windsor. He seizes the throne and crowns Himself King Donald I of House Trump.

    The United States and the British Commonwealth are consolidated into the Holy American Empire.

    Moon colony. Space Marines. Tungsten rods. And most importantly:

    THEY ALL GO BACK.

  59. Anonymous[471] • Disclaimer says:

    Deez Nutz

  60. Ted Cruz has been studying Trump’s campaign playbook and doing his best to imitate him. I don’t think it will be a stretch for Trump voters to shift support over to Cruz when the time comes.

  61. Trump is having too much fun being King of the World to not want to extend his reign. Everything else he has ever done must look insignificant to him now. What a life!

    He deserves the Nobel Peace Prize just for fulfilling his campaign promise to destroy ISIS. While cleverly avoiding all attempts to false flag him into confrontation with Putin.

    Plus he got the Saudis to give up their Wahabbi Jihadi BS. He’s got the Ayatollahs feeling exposed and vulnerable. Erdogan is looking weak and small. Islamism is retreating on all fronts.

    On top of all that he has brought North Korea to heel. He will probably make a deal in Singapore.

    And he has accomplished all this with minimal bloodshed. Amazing.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Svigor
    Bunch of foreign policy crap that has nothing to do with MAGA.
  62. Perhaps somebody who would, um, do something about immigration?

  63. @Redneck farmer
    Edward Luttwak thinks Ivanka will be the successor.

    Ivanka has to show her troll face first.

  64. @Steve Sailer
    Maybe Ivanka and Don Jr. will run against each other?

    Don Jr as Republican, Ivanka as Democrat … I’d like that.

  65. @Bliss
    Trump is having too much fun being King of the World to not want to extend his reign. Everything else he has ever done must look insignificant to him now. What a life!

    He deserves the Nobel Peace Prize just for fulfilling his campaign promise to destroy ISIS. While cleverly avoiding all attempts to false flag him into confrontation with Putin.

    Plus he got the Saudis to give up their Wahabbi Jihadi BS. He’s got the Ayatollahs feeling exposed and vulnerable. Erdogan is looking weak and small. Islamism is retreating on all fronts.

    On top of all that he has brought North Korea to heel. He will probably make a deal in Singapore.

    And he has accomplished all this with minimal bloodshed. Amazing.

    Bunch of foreign policy crap that has nothing to do with MAGA.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    You're somewhat right, but that's where the President's power mostly is.

    We're beginning to hit a similar wall with Brexit. Our executive, the prime-minister plus front bench, are going for Brexit because the public will hold them responsible otherwise. If May worked against it, we'd have real civil disorder.

    Meanwhile, the rest of the MPs are free-riding on this democratic responsiveness and opposing Brexit in the most corrupt and disingenous manner.

    Trump needs to complete the transformation of Congress, the legislative branch, before he can likely pass MAGA legislation. How ever would he do it otherwise?
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Speaking of MAGA: https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/make-america-great-again-womens-swimsuit
  66. DJTJ / Ann Coulter ?

    How about Boris Johnson, he is a US citizen born in NY ? Probably a Dem though.

    Bibi? Could run on his wall building experience.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2

    How about Boris Johnson, he is a US citizen born in NY ? Probably a Dem though.
     
    He is definitely not a Dem. What would make you think that?
  67. @NOTA
    Kanye should run with John McAfee

    Libertarians really screwed the pooch by going with Aleppo/Fudd, imo.

    Oh well.

  68. @Jon0815

    Who runs instead? Who wins?
     
    Pence, Cotton, and Cruz are the top three contenders for the GOP nomination. The winner is either Pence or Cotton.

    Pence, Cotton, and Cruz are the top three contenders for the GOP nomination. The winner is either Pence or Cotton.

    “Pick Cotton” will go over like a lead balloon with blacks. But I guess they ain’t voting Republican anyway.

  69. Stephen Miller would be a good, long-term candidate. He’s shown he can handle the press and play their game better than they can, the same thing Trump succeeds at. He’s probably too young for 2020 though.

  70. @Thomm
    The incumbent rarely loses unless there is a third party like in 1992. 1980 was a once in a lifetime aberration.

    The incumbent rarely loses unless there is a third party like in 1992. 1980 was a once in a lifetime aberration.

    I think you’re probably correct here, but in fairness I don’t think anyone in June of 1990 thought the 1992 Presidential election would be a three-way race, so it’s possible we may face one of those in 2020 as well. But I tend to doubt it.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    A three-way in 2020 will probably harm the left, since you might have a Democrat and outright socialist split the vote. Trump thus wins 40% of the Popvote but 300+ EVs.
  71. @Anon7
    Four years is too short a time for real change. No doubt little Marco, low energy Jeb, lyin’ Ted Cruz, 1 for 38 Kasich et al. will collect enough swamp money to try again.

    The only ones in Trump’s entourage that show real backbone are women. I don’t really care for Nikki Haley, but I kind of like Sarah Huckabee-Sanders. Run her against Kamala Harris. I’d bet on Sarah against Kamala in both Presidential debates and wrestling.

    Seriously, how about James “Maddog” Mattis?

    Seriously, how about James “Maddog” Mattis?

    He’d probably be willing to pay god money to NOT be President, would be my guess.

  72. @Alfa158
    The Nobel committee will try to ignore Trump out of hatred for his politics and embarrassment that they gave the Prize to his immediate predecessor, and on the basis of nothing at that. Giving it to two consecutive US Presidents will just spotlight how stupid it was giving it to Obama.
    If Korea achieves peace, I would expect that the committee would award the prize to Kim and Moon as the leaders of Korea who courageously buried the hatchet and brought reconciliation.
    Kamala Harris was selected as the choice for next Democratic President when she was selected to be US Senator. (California is effectively a single party State so the California Democratic committee essentially decides who will hold the offices that are filled by statewide vote.) Its the same model under which Obama was selected.
    I think Trump will run again and he has a good shot at beating Harris since she is so unlikable and rigidly ideological. People aren’t ready for Obama in panties. Trump’s re-election will therefore hinge on his ability to keep us out of wars and deliver on immigration and trade. Now if the Democrats weren’t so anti-White they would select Kirsten Gillibrand who would be much more likely to beat Trump with her more reasonable politics and her looks and personality.
    If Trump chooses not to run, then I think Cruz will continue his political migration to all out Trumpism and get the nomination. The old line cuckservative Republicans are no longer acceptable to the party populists.

    Now if the Democrats weren’t so anti-White they would select Kirsten Gillibrand who would be much more likely to beat Trump with her more reasonable politics and her looks and personality.

    Senator Gillibrand seems to have put on substantial weight in recent years. I think that’s a solid indication she does not intend to seek national office.

  73. @bartok

    So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.
     
    Good. She's beatable.

    Trumpian nicknames: Homewrecker Harris or Kamala Concubine (re: Willie Brown). She honestly won't see it coming - no one besides iSteve has ever brought up her past like that. It would be a War on Women.

    Trumpian nicknames: Homewrecker Harris or Kamala Concubine (re: Willie Brown). She honestly won’t see it coming – no one besides iSteve has ever brought up her past like that. It would be a War on Women.

    Back in the 90s (or maybe even in the first half of the previous decade), the San Francisco Chronicle and other Bay Area media outlets made rude noises about the advisability of electing Willie Brown’s girlfriend to high office. They’d never do that now, of course. But even liberals used to balk at such things, and are on record as having done so. I believe Herb Caen made some choice remarks on the topic, for example. So it would be that much easier for Trump to follow suit.

  74. @Arclight
    Not sure who would be nominated for the GOP, but whoever it is they lose in that scenario.

    It sure looks to me like the Dems are gearing up to nominate Kamala Harris, but I think Trump can beat her in the Electoral College although he'd lose the popular vote again. The Dems are counting on her getting women and minorities to show up at the polls, but from what I've seen she has about the same amount of charm as Hilary, which is a major handicap, and her personal story is not as compelling as Obama's was.

    Considering the steep and likely terminal decline of California, I’m surprised anyone holding a statewide position would be seriously considered for national office, even if they do have the correct skin color and genitalia.

  75. @Hockamaw
    I have it on good authority from people in a position to know that substantially all of the big money Democrats are now behind Kamala and the way the DNC nominating process is set up the person the money people want always wins. So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.

    The Republicans just need a better looking mare [not hard to find]

  76. @Hockamaw
    I have it on good authority from people in a position to know that substantially all of the big money Democrats are now behind Kamala and the way the DNC nominating process is set up the person the money people want always wins. So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.

    Listen from 2:30 on. Harris has quite a patriotic view of America and its history. She doesn’t even make any qualifications. She hates the country, its founding, its founders etc. Which may play to 51% of Californians, but not every place in America. Not yet. Trump has the balls to put this clip in a campaign ad and run it on prime time TV. Though it shouldn’t take balls; just common sense. If McCain weren’t afraid of being called a racist, he would have run campaign ads featuring Rev. Wright screaming “Goddamn America” etc 24/7. But McCain is a pathetic little bitch (of the dead and dying, only the truth!) who knew his media pals would never have forgiven him if he had beaten Obama so he didn’t campaign to win.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    Coulter is great in that, as always. I don't think Harris is the other lady though!
    , @Corn
    That woman speaking is not Kamala Harris
  77. @Faraday's Bobcat
    Harris is kind of black and used to date a famous black guy but then decided to marry a Jewish guy. No doubt she'll try to exploit that somehow, but when she does, she'll end up like Wile E. Coyote slamming into a wall on his rocket skates. President Shitposter will make sure of that.

    The debate will be akin to the final rap-battle at the end of 8 Mile:

    Trump: Now tell these people something they don’t know about me.

    Kamala: *silence*

  78. @gettimothy
    The swamp is shown to be so corrupt that the people ditch the failed Republic, burn D.C. to the ground and install Donald J. Trump Emperor for life.

    Trump then conquers England and deposes the House of Windsor. He seizes the throne and crowns Himself King Donald I of House Trump.

    The United States and the British Commonwealth are consolidated into the Holy American Empire.

    Moon colony. Space Marines. Tungsten rods. And most importantly:

    THEY ALL GO BACK.

  79. @Thomm
    The incumbent rarely loses unless there is a third party like in 1992. 1980 was a once in a lifetime aberration.

    Were you around then because I vividly remember the humiliation of the Carter years. It was not an aberration but repudiation of the feckless peanut farmer.

  80. @bartok

    So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.
     
    Good. She's beatable.

    Trumpian nicknames: Homewrecker Harris or Kamala Concubine (re: Willie Brown). She honestly won't see it coming - no one besides iSteve has ever brought up her past like that. It would be a War on Women.

    Kamala Harris could easily be elected President.

    All she has to do is campaign to moderate immigration, end affirmative action and say how much she likes your country and its people a lot.

    Ha.

  81. Dwayne Johnson. He combines the multi-racial holiness of Obola and the celebrity of Tramp.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Stan d Mute wrote::

    Dwayne Johnson.
     
    And, he'd be the coolest prez since at least JFK.

    Quite crazy possibility of course, but we will probably do worse.

  82. @songbird
    I think Kanye would actually make an interesting third party candidate, if he could get enough votes to be on stage in a debate with the other two candidates.

    I'm not saying elect him, but merely he's a loose cannon and would probably muck up things for the Democrats, so I'm all in favor of him running.

    Kanye should run for Senator in 2020 on the Republican ticket in Tammy Duckworth’s seat. He would win easily, being Senator is a good first move and he’d certainly bring a different perspective to the national debate.

    • Replies: @BB753
    Kanye's not only a moron, he's also crazy. Not a good combination.
  83. @Tyrion 2
    Kanye should run for Senator in 2020 on the Republican ticket in Tammy Duckworth's seat. He would win easily, being Senator is a good first move and he'd certainly bring a different perspective to the national debate.

    Kanye’s not only a moron, he’s also crazy. Not a good combination.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    I disagree. I think that if you read what he's been saying you will notice that he's put a lot of thought into his somewhat heterodox opinions. And, while he can be a bit erratic, he's also married to one of the smartest and most publicity adroit women in the world. This is a workable combination!

    Neither of them are particularly my style, but they've clearly got a lot going for them. Kanye has been enormously successful in a number of different industries. Kim is just enormously successful. They are also absolutely loved by their vast respective fanbases.

    I suggested Duckworth's Senate seat as it is perfect for him, he'd win and it'd give him a good idea if he really wants to run for Pres in 2024. I'd also prefer him to Tammy D, of course.

  84. @BB753
    Kanye's not only a moron, he's also crazy. Not a good combination.

    I disagree. I think that if you read what he’s been saying you will notice that he’s put a lot of thought into his somewhat heterodox opinions. And, while he can be a bit erratic, he’s also married to one of the smartest and most publicity adroit women in the world. This is a workable combination!

    Neither of them are particularly my style, but they’ve clearly got a lot going for them. Kanye has been enormously successful in a number of different industries. Kim is just enormously successful. They are also absolutely loved by their vast respective fanbases.

    I suggested Duckworth’s Senate seat as it is perfect for him, he’d win and it’d give him a good idea if he really wants to run for Pres in 2024. I’d also prefer him to Tammy D, of course.

  85. Not an answer to your question, but the winning conditions listed in your premise miss the single thing that Trump was elected to do — stop illegal immigration.

  86. @Svigor
    Bunch of foreign policy crap that has nothing to do with MAGA.

    You’re somewhat right, but that’s where the President’s power mostly is.

    We’re beginning to hit a similar wall with Brexit. Our executive, the prime-minister plus front bench, are going for Brexit because the public will hold them responsible otherwise. If May worked against it, we’d have real civil disorder.

    Meanwhile, the rest of the MPs are free-riding on this democratic responsiveness and opposing Brexit in the most corrupt and disingenous manner.

    Trump needs to complete the transformation of Congress, the legislative branch, before he can likely pass MAGA legislation. How ever would he do it otherwise?

  87. @Gordo
    DJTJ / Ann Coulter ?

    How about Boris Johnson, he is a US citizen born in NY ? Probably a Dem though.

    Bibi? Could run on his wall building experience.

    How about Boris Johnson, he is a US citizen born in NY ? Probably a Dem though.

    He is definitely not a Dem. What would make you think that?

  88. @Svigor
    Bunch of foreign policy crap that has nothing to do with MAGA.
  89. @Alfa158
    The Nobel committee will try to ignore Trump out of hatred for his politics and embarrassment that they gave the Prize to his immediate predecessor, and on the basis of nothing at that. Giving it to two consecutive US Presidents will just spotlight how stupid it was giving it to Obama.
    If Korea achieves peace, I would expect that the committee would award the prize to Kim and Moon as the leaders of Korea who courageously buried the hatchet and brought reconciliation.
    Kamala Harris was selected as the choice for next Democratic President when she was selected to be US Senator. (California is effectively a single party State so the California Democratic committee essentially decides who will hold the offices that are filled by statewide vote.) Its the same model under which Obama was selected.
    I think Trump will run again and he has a good shot at beating Harris since she is so unlikable and rigidly ideological. People aren’t ready for Obama in panties. Trump’s re-election will therefore hinge on his ability to keep us out of wars and deliver on immigration and trade. Now if the Democrats weren’t so anti-White they would select Kirsten Gillibrand who would be much more likely to beat Trump with her more reasonable politics and her looks and personality.
    If Trump chooses not to run, then I think Cruz will continue his political migration to all out Trumpism and get the nomination. The old line cuckservative Republicans are no longer acceptable to the party populists.

    Alfa158 wrote:

    Now if the Democrats weren’t so anti-White they would select Kirsten Gillibrand who would be much more likely to beat Trump with her more reasonable politics and her looks and personality.

    I used to think that Gillibrand had a winning personality and presidential ambitions.

    But, she has been doing some rather goofy things recently — like dropping “F-bombs” in public : I don’t think the American public is quite ready for this in a President.

    Kamala Harris seems to be good in front of a camera, which may be all that matters.

    Of course, it will largely depend on the economy: we’re clearly in a bubble right now — unnaturally low interest and unemployment rates resulting in unnaturally high DJIA and housing prices. I think the bubble will pop by 2020, but I tend to err on the side of pessimism.

  90. @Stan d Mute
    Dwayne Johnson. He combines the multi-racial holiness of Obola and the celebrity of Tramp.

    Stan d Mute wrote::

    Dwayne Johnson.

    And, he’d be the coolest prez since at least JFK.

    Quite crazy possibility of course, but we will probably do worse.

  91. Steve approve my comment you cuck

  92. @Kevin O'Keeffe

    The incumbent rarely loses unless there is a third party like in 1992. 1980 was a once in a lifetime aberration.
     
    I think you're probably correct here, but in fairness I don't think anyone in June of 1990 thought the 1992 Presidential election would be a three-way race, so it's possible we may face one of those in 2020 as well. But I tend to doubt it.

    A three-way in 2020 will probably harm the left, since you might have a Democrat and outright socialist split the vote. Trump thus wins 40% of the Popvote but 300+ EVs.

  93. No Wall, no legacy. Ann Coulter would savage Trump if he declares Mission Accomplished and goes home with no wall. I hope he’s having too much fun stirring shit and throwing his weight around to quit. He’s basically bulletproof at this point, in regards to worrying about running a campaign without “gaffes”, the left has already emptied the magazines against him and he’s still standing. He’s definitely one of a kind and would probably be bored after being the most powerful man in the world. If he does go home, I’d expect him to pass within 5 years. Cue Hans Gruber quote regarding Alexander the Great.

  94. Just run a few ads showing Harris questioning folks in committee–she’s an unlikeable bitch. She’s seems to be always trying to be the tough black bitch of the streets, only better looking and educated. I suspect she’s worked hard, like Obama, to be thought of as black.

  95. @Hockamaw
    I have it on good authority from people in a position to know that substantially all of the big money Democrats are now behind Kamala and the way the DNC nominating process is set up the person the money people want always wins. So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.
  96. @Anon7
    Four years is too short a time for real change. No doubt little Marco, low energy Jeb, lyin’ Ted Cruz, 1 for 38 Kasich et al. will collect enough swamp money to try again.

    The only ones in Trump’s entourage that show real backbone are women. I don’t really care for Nikki Haley, but I kind of like Sarah Huckabee-Sanders. Run her against Kamala Harris. I’d bet on Sarah against Kamala in both Presidential debates and wrestling.

    Seriously, how about James “Maddog” Mattis?

    Sarah Huckabee Sanders, seriously???

    Well it’s your country…just hope you weren’t one of the Obama’s unqualified crowd…there’s a word for that you know.

  97. @Malcolm X-Lax
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp7ULj8JGpE

    Listen from 2:30 on. Harris has quite a patriotic view of America and its history. She doesn't even make any qualifications. She hates the country, its founding, its founders etc. Which may play to 51% of Californians, but not every place in America. Not yet. Trump has the balls to put this clip in a campaign ad and run it on prime time TV. Though it shouldn't take balls; just common sense. If McCain weren't afraid of being called a racist, he would have run campaign ads featuring Rev. Wright screaming "Goddamn America" etc 24/7. But McCain is a pathetic little bitch (of the dead and dying, only the truth!) who knew his media pals would never have forgiven him if he had beaten Obama so he didn't campaign to win.

    Coulter is great in that, as always. I don’t think Harris is the other lady though!

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    Ah, shit. You're right. I knew that. These mental lapses have me worried.
  98. @Malcolm X-Lax
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp7ULj8JGpE

    Listen from 2:30 on. Harris has quite a patriotic view of America and its history. She doesn't even make any qualifications. She hates the country, its founding, its founders etc. Which may play to 51% of Californians, but not every place in America. Not yet. Trump has the balls to put this clip in a campaign ad and run it on prime time TV. Though it shouldn't take balls; just common sense. If McCain weren't afraid of being called a racist, he would have run campaign ads featuring Rev. Wright screaming "Goddamn America" etc 24/7. But McCain is a pathetic little bitch (of the dead and dying, only the truth!) who knew his media pals would never have forgiven him if he had beaten Obama so he didn't campaign to win.

    That woman speaking is not Kamala Harris

    • Agree: Malcolm X-Lax
  99. @Hockamaw
    I have it on good authority from people in a position to know that substantially all of the big money Democrats are now behind Kamala and the way the DNC nominating process is set up the person the money people want always wins. So Kamala will be your Democrat nominee in 2020. Plan accordingly.

    I have it on good authority from people in a position to know that substantially all of the big money Democrats are now behind Kamala

    This would be absolutely awesome. It–and the accompanying media spew of hate toward pale-penis-people–would really bring a big dose of reality home to a lot of “centrist”–i.e. complacent, stupid–and even some complacent liberal white people.

  100. Mitt Romney seems like he might be an adult candidate and would probably continue Trump’s good work of preventing Canadians from crossing the border and killing American dairy farmers, (whom I think were formerly known as cowboys and girls), and no doubt he could continue the other important matter of maintaining walls between New England and Canada.

    Mending Wall
    By Robert Frost

    Something there is that doesn’t love a wall,
    That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
    And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
    And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
    The work of hunters is another thing:
    I have come after them and made repair
    Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
    But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
    To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
    No one has seen them made or heard them made,
    But at spring mending-time we find them there.

  101. @Tyrion 2
    Coulter is great in that, as always. I don't think Harris is the other lady though!

    Ah, shit. You’re right. I knew that. These mental lapses have me worried.

  102. It’s a pity that Trump is 72 years old and has no known viable heirs. Isn’t there, in the whole of the mighty United States of America, a single youngish Trump supporter with balls and charisma and political experience to carry on his legacy? Reality is crushing.
    Not a neocon, not a neocuck, not a Mormon, a real man like Trump. In his fifties.
    And please, don’t even mention Ivanka to me!

    • Replies: @artichoke
    Eric. He and Ivanka came across as the stars of his progeny during the campaign. Ivanka doesn't say much, but whatever she says is exactly right. She's female, but she's beautiful (that will attract some hate) and white (i.e. most feminists will hate her guts.) Likely unelectable for those reasons.

    But Eric is the quickest. Extremely intelligent, and taller than his dad. And his hands aren't dirty, because he has no known public footprint.
  103. @Dr. X

    What if … Trump’s North Korea policy turns out to be a huge success, the economy continues to boom, the GOP maintains control of the House this fall, in October 2019 Trump shares the Nobel Peace Prize with the North and South Korean leaders, and the next day he announces that, mission accomplished, he is retiring and not running for re-election even though he would win?

    Who runs instead? Who wins?
     
    That's a LOT of "ifs."

    First, Trump will never get the Nobel Peace Prize, because it's awarded by globalist shitlibs. Trump could walk on water, heal the sick, get crucified and resurrect himself like Jesus Christ -- and they still wouldn't give it to him. So even if his Korea policy is a success, forget that.

    Now, let's look at the economy. The stock market is a Ponzi scheme and they're re-inflating the housing bubble. The national debt is $21 trillion and rising. It might do OK until 2020, but that's hardly guaranteed.

    Last, suppose Trump decides not to run for re-election. Could happen. Trump being who he is, the only thing you can predict is that he'll be unpredictable.

    If all the rosy scenarios do come to pass and Trump just bails out, I think the country's basically f---ed. Trump is the little boy with his finger in the dike --- except there's no one coming to the rescue in the morning. Let's face it, Trump's election was a fluke. Even the Republicans hated him and thought he would lose. Instead of looking forward to being part of a Trumpist movement through 2024 and beyond, Paul Ryan is bailing out -- just as his predecessor Boehner did. That's a bad omen.

    The Democrats will double down on racial politics and gender identity politics, but the post-Trump Republicans will refuse to explicitly appeal to white people.

    The next Democratic president and Congress will grant citizenship to all the illegals, increase immigration, flip Texas blue, and confiscate all semi-automatic rifles. The United States will be officially finished the next time a Democrat is sworn in.

    Your last sentence is spot on. Your penultimate paragraph is true. If the general tone is accurate, even I will probably live to see the demise of the Republic.

  104. @BB753
    It's a pity that Trump is 72 years old and has no known viable heirs. Isn't there, in the whole of the mighty United States of America, a single youngish Trump supporter with balls and charisma and political experience to carry on his legacy? Reality is crushing.
    Not a neocon, not a neocuck, not a Mormon, a real man like Trump. In his fifties.
    And please, don't even mention Ivanka to me!

    Eric. He and Ivanka came across as the stars of his progeny during the campaign. Ivanka doesn’t say much, but whatever she says is exactly right. She’s female, but she’s beautiful (that will attract some hate) and white (i.e. most feminists will hate her guts.) Likely unelectable for those reasons.

    But Eric is the quickest. Extremely intelligent, and taller than his dad. And his hands aren’t dirty, because he has no known public footprint.

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