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I’ve been having some fun at the expense of Sundar Pichai, but it’s worth keeping in mind that being CEO of Google, despite the enormous pay, is kind of a flunky job.

Google isn’t Google anymore, it’s now a subsidiary of Alphabet, the recently created umbrella holding company.

And Alphabet is completely controlled by Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin, who have awarded themselves all sorts of “supervoting shares” so that they control 51% of the voting power in Alphabet. They don’t own anywhere close to that percentage of the actual shares in Alphabet, but it’s their plaything due to how they have manipulated voting rights among shareholders.

As long as Larry and Sergey are united, their power is uncheckable.

Larry is listed as CEO of Alphabet and Sergey is listed as Co-Founder.

So, did Pichai really make the decision to fire Damore himself, or did it come down from on high?

About all we have heard is that the meeting Pichai ran on the subject was dominated by Youtube CEO Susan Wojcicki’s arguments.

Granted, to an objective outsider Wojcicki’s arguments don’t sound all that overwhelming. They sound like they were cribbed from some Slate article written by a 24-year-old intern.

But Wojcicki, who was Larry and Sergey’s landlord back in the old century, and was Sergey’s sister-in-law for awhile and whose entire family appears to be indebted to Sergey and Larry, isn’t just an employee. She’s known Larry and Sergey from before they were Google.

If Susan Wojcicki says something, is that just her opinion or is that Sergey’s and/or Larry’s?

Or maybe Sergey and Larry don’t have an opinion, they want poor Sundar to make the decision, and they will follow his future career with great interest.

Or maybe Sergey and Larry disagree, which is the one thing that could really rock Google?

All this stuff seems kind of interesting but I haven’t heard much about it.

 
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  1. Clyde says:

    Google boys Sergey and Larry could care less as long as their image is not dented. They figure the Damore affair is a minor bump on the road. Babbling babu is their flak catcher and 200 million dollar manager. They are disengaged from alpha-google and thinking big, bold thoughts about futuristic brave new world projects and concepts.

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  2. dearieme says:

    Studying events at court is usually done most safely by historians after the kings are dead.

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  3. dearieme says:

    “All this stuff seems kind of interesting”: I suspect that many extremely rich men aren’t remotely interesting. I’ll grant you Carnegie as an exception.

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  4. Skeptikal says:

    I recently read a “buy” review of Alphabet, pointing out the volume of real estate that Alphabet is acquiring all the way from north of SF down to San Jose.

    According to the writer they have huge plans, and some of them seem to go beyond cyber-business (cf. McDonald’s as real estate holding company).

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    all along the ca coast line from napa to socal. the most valuable real estate in the world.
  5. George says:

    This Damore guy sort of reminds me of a monk. Interesting to note is that one job early monks has was operating the most important computational device of their time, clocks. He works tirelessly for the Church, and when he is not he is doing ‘philosophical’ research on his own. He does not seem to have any obvious home life. He spends most if not all of his time with fellow monks. His ‘philosophical’ research is published for a very narrow audience of other like minded monks. When his research is given a wider audience rival religious orders take great offense.

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  6. Clyde says:

    I got hold of an NSA intercept of the video message the google boys sent.

    (Ravi Shankar sitar droning in the background) Take care of business big bucks Babau or we will find someone who can, and at one eighth the salary and back dated stock options. Your replacement will be a Tibetan throat singer close to the Dalai Lama. Tibetans are in, in Hollywood these days with Richard Gere and all. And google is Hollywood bound, where the future money will be. Everyone at Davos agreed.

    And be sure to call Tata and get us five fresh H1Bs to replace the rebellious American Damore. Speaking of Tata, your spies at Tata motors had better get us their self driving automobile research. STAT!!! Hop to it! Or you are gone. This can be arranged. This can be arranged.

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  7. And Alphabet is completely controlled by Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin, who have awarded themselves all sorts of “supervoting shares” so that they control 51% of the voting power in Alphabet. They don’t own anywhere close to that percentage of the actual shares in Alphabet, but it’s their plaything due to how they have manipulated voting rights among shareholders.

    You make it sound so nefarious. Setting up a capital structure that includes “supervoting shares” or “founders’ shares” or whatever people choose to call them is not in itself a sharp practice, as long as it’s done legally.

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  8. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    This reminds me of how female Bonobos enforce their power – through their social network. One on one, they are far weaker than males, but they know a lot of people in the right places.

    Sergey and Larry might have a certain deference to Susan, as young nerdy men who have been around older women from their youth often do. You also cannot criticize someone who’s been around your company for so long – especially if it’s a woman. We all know they’re going to take it personally.

    Maybe Larry and Sergey were relying on Sundar, who doesn’t have the same personal relationship to Susan as they do, to criticize her demands (to fire Damore). But Sundar, being a Tamil (who are brought up to be submissive to the point of obsequiousness) and an immigrant, wouldn’t have the cojones to criticize a personal friend of Larry and Sergey’s. Net result, what Susan wants, Susan gets.

    PG Wodehouse noticed this phenomenon decades ago – in his books, the slightly older female, as represented by the Aunt, is always portrayed as bossy, pushy, and difficult to stand up to.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aunt_Agatha

    Is Susan Wojcicki the Aunt Agatha of Google?

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Or maybe Sergey and Larry are actually in charge of Alphabet, and Susan Wojcicki is their representative at meetings at Alphabet's division?

    My theory that Sergey and Larry control the company is so crazy it just might be true!

  9. Moses says:

    Google’s founders kept 51% voting control for a reason — control.

    You can bet that a flunkie like Pichai did not make a decision under the klieg lights without getting at least their tacit blessing.

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  10. One of many things Pravda and Tass never reported were the minutes of the Central Committee.

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  11. Jack D says:

    Pikachu is damaged goods now – not because he did too much but because he didn’t do enough – he let this climate of hate build up at Google by hiring brogrammers like Damore in the 1st place. SJW logic demands that he has got to go. If he was a white male he’d be gone already but his brown skin has given him temporary protection. But still, he will be given some huge severance package and replaced – I hear that Ellen Pao is available.

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    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @Abe

    Pikachu is damaged goods now – not because he did too much but because he didn’t do enough
     
    Whoa, watch it with the belittling nicknames, Hoss! I am honestly shocked an establishment toady like David Brooks (who only a few years back I saw literally air-kiss racist scumbag fakecrime provocateur Al Sharpton's ring on national TV- "I'll respectfully defer to the Good Reverend on that one...") somehow reached deep down enough to summon his inner sh!tlord and call for Pichai's head. Yeah, when it comes down to it Pichai is just another shuffling middle manager and not one of Silicon Valley's big swingin' d!ck sovereign princes, but he makes about as much in one week as Brooks has probably earned in his entire life, and in less time than it takes Pichai's Bugatti to do the quarter mile could probably release enough embarrassing dirt on Brooks (with complete deniability, thanks to 3 layers of fall guys built-in) to make Brooks's life quite uncomfortable. "So Dave, for a guy very (VERY!) interested in lactating bixsexual colledge-educated Latinas from c.2005-2012 I don't seem to remember you ever writing a book about them. Or even a column. Or even one sentence."
  12. Rod1963 says:

    Not important at all.

    Look at their support of globalization and open borders and being allowed to bring in as many H-1B’s as they want. That tells you what you need to know. They want to operate a high tech sweat shop using foreign labor and don’t care if destroys job opportunities for Americans and harms the country. Under Google and other firms, they’ve kicked out the whites and replaced them with foreigners to the point that white workers are very much a small minority now.

    They really don’t care about Americans or their workers in general. Remember how Google, Apple and others colluded to keep wages down and their engineers from jumping ship to greener pastures? Look at their wages in urban areas. Their wages aren’t any better than a unionized garbage man or cop working for a city.

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  13. Whiskey says: • Website

    Sergey and Larry are not that smart. Just lucky. Their luck is unlikely to hold. They are figuring they can play John D. Rockefeller, or Andrew Carnegie, the way Bill Gates did. Beloved anti-White male figures spewing out money to people who write about how awesome they are, or donating money to anti-White initiatives, and the like. All the while sitting on a mountain of cash that has no real threat.

    Of course, if you are say, *President Maxine Waters, and you want to reward your constituents and more importantly, yourself, its a lot easier and more lucrative to seize their money than collect from all the Kulaks. Who have lots of guns, will fight, and have most of the fighting spear of the military on their side unlike Stalin and Lenin. Very Smart Brothas don’t do so well in shock battle because they are genetically incapable of it in the main; as opposed to beta White males whose very beta White maleness makes them genetically selected for shock annihilation battle and has for thousands of years.

    So Sergey and Larry are looking at a few years at most of the good anti-White male times before they too are eaten by the crocodile.

    *It is pretty clear that the DC establishment wants Trump gone gone gone. Mueller has convened a grand jury and is clear he will look into every nook and cranny of Trump’s finances to find an indictment. Trump will probably try to fire him and have to fire Sessions, Rosenblatt, and a bunch of AG assistants before finding someone to do that; and Ryan, McCain, McConnell, Graham, Rubio, and Cruz have all said that’s grounds for impeachment and conviction.

    Ryan will likely want “clean hands” and is probably likely to play the Henry Clay role, and give the Presidency to someone like Maxine Waters who has maximum SJW creds being as anti-White male as it gets and also corrupt and stupid; the perfect figure for the SJW blue haired fattie. Ryan is a cuck, and what could be more Cuckservative than handing over the nation to Maxine Waters? My bet is Ryan’s cuckness is greater than his ambition; otherwise he’d have run in 2015 as the close the borders candidate offering to deport not just illegal alien labor but Muslim terrorists and their friends and family members who knew and kept silent. That could have made him President and he knows it — but he’d rather be a small fish and cuck than King Cock of the Walk.

    If not Maxine Waters then Hillary, or Kamala Harris — anyone but a White man who cucks revile because it placates and appeases the anti-White male women in their lives.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Writing as a Californian, I say that it is a pretty sad state of affairs that Maxine Waters has any audience at all. She is one more embarrassment in that sorry delegation. The only positive I can add is that she isn't my Representative, although I shudder to think about who lives in her district and how she defeated anyone. Maybe she can toddle off to dotage with Diane Feinstein. Wouldn't that would be the $2 exacta of the year for the Golden State? (Rhetorical, we have an abundance of bullshit issues ranging from dysfunctional reps to sociopathic corps like Google.)
  14. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    iSteve’s comments raise an eyebrow or two, but am still trying to wrap my head Google having fired this Damore person for making comments that they considered harmful to women while simultaneously allowing public access (via the search engine) to porn sites.

    Is porn not considered harmful to women?

    And has YouTube CEO Wojcicki scoped out some of the stuff on her OWN company’s website lately?

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    Keyboard cowboys need to take action and spread the devastating Goolag meme.

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  16. Abe says: • Website
    @Jack D
    Pikachu is damaged goods now - not because he did too much but because he didn't do enough - he let this climate of hate build up at Google by hiring brogrammers like Damore in the 1st place. SJW logic demands that he has got to go. If he was a white male he'd be gone already but his brown skin has given him temporary protection. But still, he will be given some huge severance package and replaced - I hear that Ellen Pao is available.

    Pikachu is damaged goods now – not because he did too much but because he didn’t do enough

    Whoa, watch it with the belittling nicknames, Hoss! I am honestly shocked an establishment toady like David Brooks (who only a few years back I saw literally air-kiss racist scumbag fakecrime provocateur Al Sharpton’s ring on national TV- “I’ll respectfully defer to the Good Reverend on that one…”) somehow reached deep down enough to summon his inner sh!tlord and call for Pichai’s head. Yeah, when it comes down to it Pichai is just another shuffling middle manager and not one of Silicon Valley’s big swingin’ d!ck sovereign princes, but he makes about as much in one week as Brooks has probably earned in his entire life, and in less time than it takes Pichai’s Bugatti to do the quarter mile could probably release enough embarrassing dirt on Brooks (with complete deniability, thanks to 3 layers of fall guys built-in) to make Brooks’s life quite uncomfortable. “So Dave, for a guy very (VERY!) interested in lactating bixsexual colledge-educated Latinas from c.2005-2012 I don’t seem to remember you ever writing a book about them. Or even a column. Or even one sentence.”

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    He shoots he scores! Hahaha. And Brooks was so kissy with the tax dodging Rev. Al who lead riots against Brook's fellow New Jack City Jews.
  17. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Clyde
    Google boys Sergey and Larry could care less as long as their image is not dented. They figure the Damore affair is a minor bump on the road. Babbling babu is their flak catcher and 200 million dollar manager. They are disengaged from alpha-google and thinking big, bold thoughts about futuristic brave new world projects and concepts.

    Sergey and Larry haven’t done jack with their immense wealth with respect to “futuristic brave new world projects and concepts,” compared to the likes of Musk and Bezos.

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    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Sergey and Larry haven’t done jack with their immense wealth with respect to “futuristic brave new world projects and concepts,” compared to the likes of Musk and Bezos.
     
    You mean like the Washington Post?
    , @highrpm
    are they back in school phd'ing in bio-somethings to attempt to get a handle on the new frontier of bioengineering? using the dna model and doing biomimicry with molecules whats been done previously with mechanical solutions? mechanical robots? so 2010's. on to the real money of biological robots. larry page is evil. and the googler ray kurzweil is delusional. with his singularity talks. hey, its sells his books.
  18. They missed the whole debacle as they were flying in their 757 to a climate change conference.

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  19. Alice says:

    Hasn’t it occurred to any of you that 26 yr old men who write 10 page manifestos and send them to their colleagues are, at best, avoided by the people who have to work with them for being self- absorbed egotistical dorks, and at worst, are viewed as unhinged?

    Who the heck wants him for a colleague? No one. He’s lower than average on conscientiousness even for geeks at google.

    Manifesto writers are the kind of guy who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. Hie insufferable for a 26 yr old in a place with thousands of other guys who also think they’re the smartest guys in the room.

    The same type tells his boss “the client is stupid for wanting that feature”, “I ignored your concerns and solved it my way because my way is better.”

    That’s why they fired him. You can only tolerate so many geeks who goals are orthogonal to your money making business operations. Google has worked hard to find ways to co opt these geeks, but in the end, manifestos demonstrate you are-harnessable.

    No one wants to work with an a—ole who set himself apart in a place that already has tons of them. They never foresaw the story becoming about the truth value of “diversity” at all.

    Btw, I thought those opposed to the left thought people should be able to hire and fire whomever they wanted for any or no reason. How come that has changed? I know it may take fighting for with fire, but is the goal to have the judiciary decide which opinions are fireable offenses and which aren’t? Really????? Ya think that’s gonna work out to a broader set of opinions in businesses?

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    • Replies: @Anon
    I agree completely...........

    "And yet it moves"

    Sorry long live the Inquisition!!!!!
    , @European-American
    That's the most sensible defense of his firing I have yet seen.
    , @Olorin
    What do you think is a reasonable response to the daily workplace diversity floggings that white men have to endure month in, month out, for the duration of their schooling and work lives?

    Suck it up forever to prove they're mommy's good little boys?

    A manifesto--fneh. Words. If you think ten-page memos are all that uncommon when people are in at-wits'-end venting mode, I'd like to know where you've worked these past 40 years and who you've supervised.

    Jeezis, when PROFS came in in the '80s, it was like somebody opened the Cosmic Venting Port. Yah, whatever.

    If Damore had brought say a Tavor to work and obliterated a couple dozen SJW females (like that guy in Montreal), that in my mind would constitute Unmutual in the extreme.

    But words? Getting territorial and mobbish about those being deployed is the left's domain.

    It's also a female power ploy to tell men what they can and cannot say, when or when not, and in what words, or gestures, or whatever...all, of course, interpreted authoritatively by those experts on communications and human dynamics: females.

    , @S. Anonyia
    These are my thoughts, too, Alice. The dude's only been working 2-3 years at most and yet feels he is just so smart and so special that he can write manifestos against his own employer?

    I think it would be fine had he circulated the memo on a personal blog but it seems he mainly sent it to co-workers for undetermined reasons (was there someone specific who pissed him off?). Why he thought it wouldn't lead to repercussions, I'm not sure. I know if I circulated a public memo about some of my observations in my line of work I would get strung up by everyone on all sides pretty fast. I guess computer programmers consider themselves masters of the universe to whom normal rules of social decorum do not apply?

    And let's face it, he went after a rather obvious and easy target: most women don't like programming, men and women have different interests, breaking news!

    I doubt google even disagrees with his rather mundane observations they just don't want bad publicity. Can't blame them. I say this as someone who normally hates google and their stupid motto "don't be evil."
    , @res
    Some reasonable objections, but I would argue he is less objectionable by the standards you have laid out than the SJWs who called for his head are.

    Arrogance is annoying, but it is a lot easier to bear from someone who actually is capable (see superior performance reviews).

    And concerning this, I think you have a different definition of conscientiousness than I do.

    He’s lower than average on conscientiousness even for geeks at google.
     
    Do you really think his CV, memo, and followup fail to show these traits?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientiousness

    Conscientiousness is the personality trait of being careful, or vigilant. Conscientiousness implies a desire to do a task well, and to take obligations to others seriously. Conscientious people tend to be efficient and organized as opposed to easy-going and disorderly. They exhibit a tendency to show self-discipline, act dutifully, and aim for achievement; they display planned rather than spontaneous behavior; and they are generally dependable. It is manifested in characteristic behaviors such as being neat and systematic; also including such elements as carefulness, thoroughness, and deliberation (the tendency to think carefully before acting.)[1]

     

    And your

    You can only tolerate so many geeks who goals are orthogonal to your money making business operations.
     
    Except for the word "geeks" (what a nasty stereotype, are you trying to create a hostile workplace?) that is again a much better description of the diversity jihadis (how's that for a hostile stereotype!) at Google.
    , @res
    Thinking about this some more, your objection is a nice illustration of sex differences. It seems like your main problem with Damore is his lack of conformity to the (hostile) work environment he was facing.

    Let's take a look at the research: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1471-6402.1986.tb00747.x?journalCode=pwqa
    Sex Differences in Conformity: Status and Gender Role Interpretations

    The experiment examines status and gender role explanations of the tendency for women to conform more than men in group pressure settings. Subjects believed they were assigned to groups containing two males and two females in addition to themselves and received these other group members' opinions, which were represented as deviating from the opinions that subjects had given earlier. Subjects then gave their opinions with the other group members either having or not having surveillance over these opinions. In addition, subjects were required to form impressions of each other's likability or expertise. The findings indicate that subjects' sex and age affected the extent of their conformity. Among older (19 years and older) subjects, females conformed more with surveillance than without it, whereas surveillance did not affect males' conformity. Among younger (under 19 years) subjects, surveillance had no effects. Analysis of sex differences revealed that older females were significantly more conforming than older males when under surveillance as well as when subjects formed impressions of one another's likability. Among younger subjects, there were no sex differences. These findings are discussed in terms of the theories that (a) both sex and age function as status characteristics and (b) gender roles determine conformity.
     
    And before anyone yells "sexist", note the paper authors.
    , @PiltdownMan
    This defense would be simply commonsense in another setting, in another corporation.

    James Damore's writeup was neither a manifesto nor a screed. It was a post to an internal employee discussion board about diversity, where Google encouraged candor. Google makes much of its non-standard, open and tolerant corporate culture.

    Damore is a systems biologist by training. He employed some of those talents in putting together some initial thoughts on how the goal of "diversity" might be better served—to examine whether or not the system as currently set up helped or hindered Google from meeting its goal, or indeed, whether the goal was sensibly formulated and realistic. Instead, he got sandbagged.
  20. Abe says: • Website

    So, did Pichai really make the decision to fire Damore himself, or did it come down from on high?

    Thanks, Steve, for laying out all the pragmatic reasons for the Google/Alphabet re-org which I was honestly too lazy to look up. But don’t you think there was just a teeny, weeny little bit of power-trippage going on here as well, especially considering how anodyne the name of the new parent corp turned out to be, leaving Pichai as the ostensible head of the probably #1-most-valuable-brand-in-the-world part of it?

    Let me put it another way. Unless you were a nerd’s-nerd and had seen it 27 straight times to memorize all the dialog, you probably thought Darth Vader was the big baddy as you left the theater after seeing the original STAR WARS. So when a quarter of the way into EMPIRE you see some wrinkly old guy strut on stage accompanied by a a retinue of crimson space-ninja bodyguards and John William’s death march and it dawned on you that Darth frickin-Vader had a meaner, eviler, more powerful boss- well, you probably blew your geek nut at that point (which I’m not ashamed to admit I did too- it’s just that I blacked out about then and so can’t account for the next 11 minutes).

    So is this part of it? Pichai is paid the big bucks to competently run Google’s rich but increasingly mundane and grubby ads and smart phone core while Sergey gets to work on the more ennobling moon shoot projects and then Emperor Pagepatine swoops in when there’s a big breakthrough to announce?

    EMPEROR: The IQ is strong with young Damore. But he is turned to the red side of the pill. If he could be brought over to the blue side he would make a powerful ally.
    DARTH SUNDER: He will join us or be destroyed, my master.

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  21. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The Right should stir up as much shit as possible over Google’s arrangement to be allowed to keep an executive jet at Moffett Field. They are paying NASA a couple of million a year when it is obvious that market value of this arrangement is probably >$100M a year.

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  22. Clyde says:
    @Abe

    Pikachu is damaged goods now – not because he did too much but because he didn’t do enough
     
    Whoa, watch it with the belittling nicknames, Hoss! I am honestly shocked an establishment toady like David Brooks (who only a few years back I saw literally air-kiss racist scumbag fakecrime provocateur Al Sharpton's ring on national TV- "I'll respectfully defer to the Good Reverend on that one...") somehow reached deep down enough to summon his inner sh!tlord and call for Pichai's head. Yeah, when it comes down to it Pichai is just another shuffling middle manager and not one of Silicon Valley's big swingin' d!ck sovereign princes, but he makes about as much in one week as Brooks has probably earned in his entire life, and in less time than it takes Pichai's Bugatti to do the quarter mile could probably release enough embarrassing dirt on Brooks (with complete deniability, thanks to 3 layers of fall guys built-in) to make Brooks's life quite uncomfortable. "So Dave, for a guy very (VERY!) interested in lactating bixsexual colledge-educated Latinas from c.2005-2012 I don't seem to remember you ever writing a book about them. Or even a column. Or even one sentence."

    He shoots he scores! Hahaha. And Brooks was so kissy with the tax dodging Rev. Al who lead riots against Brook’s fellow New Jack City Jews.

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  23. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Alice
    Hasn't it occurred to any of you that 26 yr old men who write 10 page manifestos and send them to their colleagues are, at best, avoided by the people who have to work with them for being self- absorbed egotistical dorks, and at worst, are viewed as unhinged?

    Who the heck wants him for a colleague? No one. He's lower than average on conscientiousness even for geeks at google.

    Manifesto writers are the kind of guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Hie insufferable for a 26 yr old in a place with thousands of other guys who also think they're the smartest guys in the room.

    The same type tells his boss "the client is stupid for wanting that feature", "I ignored your concerns and solved it my way because my way is better."

    That's why they fired him. You can only tolerate so many geeks who goals are orthogonal to your money making business operations. Google has worked hard to find ways to co opt these geeks, but in the end, manifestos demonstrate you are-harnessable.

    No one wants to work with an a---ole who set himself apart in a place that already has tons of them. They never foresaw the story becoming about the truth value of "diversity" at all.

    Btw, I thought those opposed to the left thought people should be able to hire and fire whomever they wanted for any or no reason. How come that has changed? I know it may take fighting for with fire, but is the goal to have the judiciary decide which opinions are fireable offenses and which aren't? Really????? Ya think that's gonna work out to a broader set of opinions in businesses?

    I agree completely………..

    “And yet it moves”

    Sorry long live the Inquisition!!!!!

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  24. @Alice
    Hasn't it occurred to any of you that 26 yr old men who write 10 page manifestos and send them to their colleagues are, at best, avoided by the people who have to work with them for being self- absorbed egotistical dorks, and at worst, are viewed as unhinged?

    Who the heck wants him for a colleague? No one. He's lower than average on conscientiousness even for geeks at google.

    Manifesto writers are the kind of guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Hie insufferable for a 26 yr old in a place with thousands of other guys who also think they're the smartest guys in the room.

    The same type tells his boss "the client is stupid for wanting that feature", "I ignored your concerns and solved it my way because my way is better."

    That's why they fired him. You can only tolerate so many geeks who goals are orthogonal to your money making business operations. Google has worked hard to find ways to co opt these geeks, but in the end, manifestos demonstrate you are-harnessable.

    No one wants to work with an a---ole who set himself apart in a place that already has tons of them. They never foresaw the story becoming about the truth value of "diversity" at all.

    Btw, I thought those opposed to the left thought people should be able to hire and fire whomever they wanted for any or no reason. How come that has changed? I know it may take fighting for with fire, but is the goal to have the judiciary decide which opinions are fireable offenses and which aren't? Really????? Ya think that's gonna work out to a broader set of opinions in businesses?

    That’s the most sensible defense of his firing I have yet seen.

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  25. @Anonymous
    This reminds me of how female Bonobos enforce their power - through their social network. One on one, they are far weaker than males, but they know a lot of people in the right places.

    Sergey and Larry might have a certain deference to Susan, as young nerdy men who have been around older women from their youth often do. You also cannot criticize someone who's been around your company for so long - especially if it's a woman. We all know they're going to take it personally.

    Maybe Larry and Sergey were relying on Sundar, who doesn't have the same personal relationship to Susan as they do, to criticize her demands (to fire Damore). But Sundar, being a Tamil (who are brought up to be submissive to the point of obsequiousness) and an immigrant, wouldn't have the cojones to criticize a personal friend of Larry and Sergey's. Net result, what Susan wants, Susan gets.

    PG Wodehouse noticed this phenomenon decades ago - in his books, the slightly older female, as represented by the Aunt, is always portrayed as bossy, pushy, and difficult to stand up to.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aunt_Agatha

    Is Susan Wojcicki the Aunt Agatha of Google?

    Or maybe Sergey and Larry are actually in charge of Alphabet, and Susan Wojcicki is their representative at meetings at Alphabet’s division?

    My theory that Sergey and Larry control the company is so crazy it just might be true!

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  26. Olorin says:
    @Alice
    Hasn't it occurred to any of you that 26 yr old men who write 10 page manifestos and send them to their colleagues are, at best, avoided by the people who have to work with them for being self- absorbed egotistical dorks, and at worst, are viewed as unhinged?

    Who the heck wants him for a colleague? No one. He's lower than average on conscientiousness even for geeks at google.

    Manifesto writers are the kind of guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Hie insufferable for a 26 yr old in a place with thousands of other guys who also think they're the smartest guys in the room.

    The same type tells his boss "the client is stupid for wanting that feature", "I ignored your concerns and solved it my way because my way is better."

    That's why they fired him. You can only tolerate so many geeks who goals are orthogonal to your money making business operations. Google has worked hard to find ways to co opt these geeks, but in the end, manifestos demonstrate you are-harnessable.

    No one wants to work with an a---ole who set himself apart in a place that already has tons of them. They never foresaw the story becoming about the truth value of "diversity" at all.

    Btw, I thought those opposed to the left thought people should be able to hire and fire whomever they wanted for any or no reason. How come that has changed? I know it may take fighting for with fire, but is the goal to have the judiciary decide which opinions are fireable offenses and which aren't? Really????? Ya think that's gonna work out to a broader set of opinions in businesses?

    What do you think is a reasonable response to the daily workplace diversity floggings that white men have to endure month in, month out, for the duration of their schooling and work lives?

    Suck it up forever to prove they’re mommy’s good little boys?

    A manifesto–fneh. Words. If you think ten-page memos are all that uncommon when people are in at-wits’-end venting mode, I’d like to know where you’ve worked these past 40 years and who you’ve supervised.

    Jeezis, when PROFS came in in the ’80s, it was like somebody opened the Cosmic Venting Port. Yah, whatever.

    If Damore had brought say a Tavor to work and obliterated a couple dozen SJW females (like that guy in Montreal), that in my mind would constitute Unmutual in the extreme.

    But words? Getting territorial and mobbish about those being deployed is the left’s domain.

    It’s also a female power ploy to tell men what they can and cannot say, when or when not, and in what words, or gestures, or whatever…all, of course, interpreted authoritatively by those experts on communications and human dynamics: females.

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    It’s also a female power ploy to tell men what they can and cannot say, when or when not, and in what words, or gestures, or whatever…
     
    Whatever happened to the saying "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?"

    I guess children haven't been taught that for a generation now. And radicalized women on the left today, if they are aware of it at all, probably think that it is an outlandish piece of doggerel that makes no sense.

  27. @Alice
    Hasn't it occurred to any of you that 26 yr old men who write 10 page manifestos and send them to their colleagues are, at best, avoided by the people who have to work with them for being self- absorbed egotistical dorks, and at worst, are viewed as unhinged?

    Who the heck wants him for a colleague? No one. He's lower than average on conscientiousness even for geeks at google.

    Manifesto writers are the kind of guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Hie insufferable for a 26 yr old in a place with thousands of other guys who also think they're the smartest guys in the room.

    The same type tells his boss "the client is stupid for wanting that feature", "I ignored your concerns and solved it my way because my way is better."

    That's why they fired him. You can only tolerate so many geeks who goals are orthogonal to your money making business operations. Google has worked hard to find ways to co opt these geeks, but in the end, manifestos demonstrate you are-harnessable.

    No one wants to work with an a---ole who set himself apart in a place that already has tons of them. They never foresaw the story becoming about the truth value of "diversity" at all.

    Btw, I thought those opposed to the left thought people should be able to hire and fire whomever they wanted for any or no reason. How come that has changed? I know it may take fighting for with fire, but is the goal to have the judiciary decide which opinions are fireable offenses and which aren't? Really????? Ya think that's gonna work out to a broader set of opinions in businesses?

    These are my thoughts, too, Alice. The dude’s only been working 2-3 years at most and yet feels he is just so smart and so special that he can write manifestos against his own employer?

    I think it would be fine had he circulated the memo on a personal blog but it seems he mainly sent it to co-workers for undetermined reasons (was there someone specific who pissed him off?). Why he thought it wouldn’t lead to repercussions, I’m not sure. I know if I circulated a public memo about some of my observations in my line of work I would get strung up by everyone on all sides pretty fast. I guess computer programmers consider themselves masters of the universe to whom normal rules of social decorum do not apply?

    And let’s face it, he went after a rather obvious and easy target: most women don’t like programming, men and women have different interests, breaking news!

    I doubt google even disagrees with his rather mundane observations they just don’t want bad publicity. Can’t blame them. I say this as someone who normally hates google and their stupid motto “don’t be evil.”

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    Google has a culture in which employees argue in Google online forums constantly.

    Damore's "memo" wasn't a memo, it was one of a vast number of posts made to Google's countless forums.

  28. @S. Anonyia
    These are my thoughts, too, Alice. The dude's only been working 2-3 years at most and yet feels he is just so smart and so special that he can write manifestos against his own employer?

    I think it would be fine had he circulated the memo on a personal blog but it seems he mainly sent it to co-workers for undetermined reasons (was there someone specific who pissed him off?). Why he thought it wouldn't lead to repercussions, I'm not sure. I know if I circulated a public memo about some of my observations in my line of work I would get strung up by everyone on all sides pretty fast. I guess computer programmers consider themselves masters of the universe to whom normal rules of social decorum do not apply?

    And let's face it, he went after a rather obvious and easy target: most women don't like programming, men and women have different interests, breaking news!

    I doubt google even disagrees with his rather mundane observations they just don't want bad publicity. Can't blame them. I say this as someone who normally hates google and their stupid motto "don't be evil."

    Google has a culture in which employees argue in Google online forums constantly.

    Damore’s “memo” wasn’t a memo, it was one of a vast number of posts made to Google’s countless forums.

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    And if I understand the timeline correctly it was first something he raised through channels. Has anyone laid out the timeline including when and how the memo was distributed (channels, forum, Gizmodo)?
  29. Polynikes says:

    I don’t care how high up you are, you’ll never have more ear than the lady that predates the owner’s success. You might be such a rainmaker that the owner well tolerate you pissing that lady off from time to time, but she’ll always have an equal say with the boss.

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  30. @Anonymous
    Sergey and Larry haven't done jack with their immense wealth with respect to "futuristic brave new world projects and concepts," compared to the likes of Musk and Bezos.

    Sergey and Larry haven’t done jack with their immense wealth with respect to “futuristic brave new world projects and concepts,” compared to the likes of Musk and Bezos.

    You mean like the Washington Post?

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    And Musk's glorious projects are funded by American taxpayers.
  31. So you were just having fun with Sundar, really? Your foot soldiers or lackeys more like it, were running roughshod over the man all the while in the comments section yet willfully ignoring the real masters and culprits, Moishe & Moishe. It’s clear that WN are targeting the wrong person because they are scared to death of you know who… of course, that is to be expected of beta males!

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  32. res says:
    @Alice
    Hasn't it occurred to any of you that 26 yr old men who write 10 page manifestos and send them to their colleagues are, at best, avoided by the people who have to work with them for being self- absorbed egotistical dorks, and at worst, are viewed as unhinged?

    Who the heck wants him for a colleague? No one. He's lower than average on conscientiousness even for geeks at google.

    Manifesto writers are the kind of guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Hie insufferable for a 26 yr old in a place with thousands of other guys who also think they're the smartest guys in the room.

    The same type tells his boss "the client is stupid for wanting that feature", "I ignored your concerns and solved it my way because my way is better."

    That's why they fired him. You can only tolerate so many geeks who goals are orthogonal to your money making business operations. Google has worked hard to find ways to co opt these geeks, but in the end, manifestos demonstrate you are-harnessable.

    No one wants to work with an a---ole who set himself apart in a place that already has tons of them. They never foresaw the story becoming about the truth value of "diversity" at all.

    Btw, I thought those opposed to the left thought people should be able to hire and fire whomever they wanted for any or no reason. How come that has changed? I know it may take fighting for with fire, but is the goal to have the judiciary decide which opinions are fireable offenses and which aren't? Really????? Ya think that's gonna work out to a broader set of opinions in businesses?

    Some reasonable objections, but I would argue he is less objectionable by the standards you have laid out than the SJWs who called for his head are.

    Arrogance is annoying, but it is a lot easier to bear from someone who actually is capable (see superior performance reviews).

    And concerning this, I think you have a different definition of conscientiousness than I do.

    He’s lower than average on conscientiousness even for geeks at google.

    Do you really think his CV, memo, and followup fail to show these traits?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientiousness

    Conscientiousness is the personality trait of being careful, or vigilant. Conscientiousness implies a desire to do a task well, and to take obligations to others seriously. Conscientious people tend to be efficient and organized as opposed to easy-going and disorderly. They exhibit a tendency to show self-discipline, act dutifully, and aim for achievement; they display planned rather than spontaneous behavior; and they are generally dependable. It is manifested in characteristic behaviors such as being neat and systematic; also including such elements as carefulness, thoroughness, and deliberation (the tendency to think carefully before acting.)[1]

    And your

    You can only tolerate so many geeks who goals are orthogonal to your money making business operations.

    Except for the word “geeks” (what a nasty stereotype, are you trying to create a hostile workplace?) that is again a much better description of the diversity jihadis (how’s that for a hostile stereotype!) at Google.

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  33. res says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Google has a culture in which employees argue in Google online forums constantly.

    Damore's "memo" wasn't a memo, it was one of a vast number of posts made to Google's countless forums.

    And if I understand the timeline correctly it was first something he raised through channels. Has anyone laid out the timeline including when and how the memo was distributed (channels, forum, Gizmodo)?

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  34. res says:
    @Alice
    Hasn't it occurred to any of you that 26 yr old men who write 10 page manifestos and send them to their colleagues are, at best, avoided by the people who have to work with them for being self- absorbed egotistical dorks, and at worst, are viewed as unhinged?

    Who the heck wants him for a colleague? No one. He's lower than average on conscientiousness even for geeks at google.

    Manifesto writers are the kind of guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Hie insufferable for a 26 yr old in a place with thousands of other guys who also think they're the smartest guys in the room.

    The same type tells his boss "the client is stupid for wanting that feature", "I ignored your concerns and solved it my way because my way is better."

    That's why they fired him. You can only tolerate so many geeks who goals are orthogonal to your money making business operations. Google has worked hard to find ways to co opt these geeks, but in the end, manifestos demonstrate you are-harnessable.

    No one wants to work with an a---ole who set himself apart in a place that already has tons of them. They never foresaw the story becoming about the truth value of "diversity" at all.

    Btw, I thought those opposed to the left thought people should be able to hire and fire whomever they wanted for any or no reason. How come that has changed? I know it may take fighting for with fire, but is the goal to have the judiciary decide which opinions are fireable offenses and which aren't? Really????? Ya think that's gonna work out to a broader set of opinions in businesses?

    Thinking about this some more, your objection is a nice illustration of sex differences. It seems like your main problem with Damore is his lack of conformity to the (hostile) work environment he was facing.

    Let’s take a look at the research: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1471-6402.1986.tb00747.x?journalCode=pwqa
    Sex Differences in Conformity: Status and Gender Role Interpretations

    The experiment examines status and gender role explanations of the tendency for women to conform more than men in group pressure settings. Subjects believed they were assigned to groups containing two males and two females in addition to themselves and received these other group members’ opinions, which were represented as deviating from the opinions that subjects had given earlier. Subjects then gave their opinions with the other group members either having or not having surveillance over these opinions. In addition, subjects were required to form impressions of each other’s likability or expertise. The findings indicate that subjects’ sex and age affected the extent of their conformity. Among older (19 years and older) subjects, females conformed more with surveillance than without it, whereas surveillance did not affect males’ conformity. Among younger (under 19 years) subjects, surveillance had no effects. Analysis of sex differences revealed that older females were significantly more conforming than older males when under surveillance as well as when subjects formed impressions of one another’s likability. Among younger subjects, there were no sex differences. These findings are discussed in terms of the theories that (a) both sex and age function as status characteristics and (b) gender roles determine conformity.

    And before anyone yells “sexist”, note the paper authors.

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  35. Thomm says:

    It is pretty obvious that Wojcicki the manjawed feminist made them do it. Larry and certainly Sergey are complete beta males despite their wealth. Sergey married the other Wojcicki sister only to later get divorced, and now has a girlfriend, Nicole Shanahan, who is not that pretty compared to what a young multi-billionaire should get.

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  36. @Alice
    Hasn't it occurred to any of you that 26 yr old men who write 10 page manifestos and send them to their colleagues are, at best, avoided by the people who have to work with them for being self- absorbed egotistical dorks, and at worst, are viewed as unhinged?

    Who the heck wants him for a colleague? No one. He's lower than average on conscientiousness even for geeks at google.

    Manifesto writers are the kind of guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Hie insufferable for a 26 yr old in a place with thousands of other guys who also think they're the smartest guys in the room.

    The same type tells his boss "the client is stupid for wanting that feature", "I ignored your concerns and solved it my way because my way is better."

    That's why they fired him. You can only tolerate so many geeks who goals are orthogonal to your money making business operations. Google has worked hard to find ways to co opt these geeks, but in the end, manifestos demonstrate you are-harnessable.

    No one wants to work with an a---ole who set himself apart in a place that already has tons of them. They never foresaw the story becoming about the truth value of "diversity" at all.

    Btw, I thought those opposed to the left thought people should be able to hire and fire whomever they wanted for any or no reason. How come that has changed? I know it may take fighting for with fire, but is the goal to have the judiciary decide which opinions are fireable offenses and which aren't? Really????? Ya think that's gonna work out to a broader set of opinions in businesses?

    This defense would be simply commonsense in another setting, in another corporation.

    James Damore’s writeup was neither a manifesto nor a screed. It was a post to an internal employee discussion board about diversity, where Google encouraged candor. Google makes much of its non-standard, open and tolerant corporate culture.

    Damore is a systems biologist by training. He employed some of those talents in putting together some initial thoughts on how the goal of “diversity” might be better served—to examine whether or not the system as currently set up helped or hindered Google from meeting its goal, or indeed, whether the goal was sensibly formulated and realistic. Instead, he got sandbagged.

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  37. @Olorin
    What do you think is a reasonable response to the daily workplace diversity floggings that white men have to endure month in, month out, for the duration of their schooling and work lives?

    Suck it up forever to prove they're mommy's good little boys?

    A manifesto--fneh. Words. If you think ten-page memos are all that uncommon when people are in at-wits'-end venting mode, I'd like to know where you've worked these past 40 years and who you've supervised.

    Jeezis, when PROFS came in in the '80s, it was like somebody opened the Cosmic Venting Port. Yah, whatever.

    If Damore had brought say a Tavor to work and obliterated a couple dozen SJW females (like that guy in Montreal), that in my mind would constitute Unmutual in the extreme.

    But words? Getting territorial and mobbish about those being deployed is the left's domain.

    It's also a female power ploy to tell men what they can and cannot say, when or when not, and in what words, or gestures, or whatever...all, of course, interpreted authoritatively by those experts on communications and human dynamics: females.

    It’s also a female power ploy to tell men what they can and cannot say, when or when not, and in what words, or gestures, or whatever…

    Whatever happened to the saying “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?”

    I guess children haven’t been taught that for a generation now. And radicalized women on the left today, if they are aware of it at all, probably think that it is an outlandish piece of doggerel that makes no sense.

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  38. Hibernian says:
    @Clark Westwood

    And Alphabet is completely controlled by Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin, who have awarded themselves all sorts of “supervoting shares” so that they control 51% of the voting power in Alphabet. They don’t own anywhere close to that percentage of the actual shares in Alphabet, but it’s their plaything due to how they have manipulated voting rights among shareholders.
     
    You make it sound so nefarious. Setting up a capital structure that includes "supervoting shares" or "founders' shares" or whatever people choose to call them is not in itself a sharp practice, as long as it's done legally.

    Isn’t nonvoting common stock an oxymoron?

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    Isn’t nonvoting common stock an oxymoron?
     
    No, it's perfectly legal and not unusual. You just have to have at least one class of stock with voting rights (e.g., Class A nonvoting common and Class B voting common).
  39. TBA says:

    The pressure from goodthinkers must be enormous, maybe too strong even for the Google guys. After all, a few years ago Larry Summers lost his job as the *president of Harvard* for saying the same thing as Damore. Did Damore know about that, and if so, did he really expect to keep his job?

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Summers screwed up re Harvard consulting in Russia, and got a vote of No Confidence from the faculty. Less Veritas (TM) than met the eye.
    His 'women in science' gibe was a public reason for a private debacle. See Andrei Schleifer episode for further detail.
  40. @Hibernian
    Isn't nonvoting common stock an oxymoron?

    Isn’t nonvoting common stock an oxymoron?

    No, it’s perfectly legal and not unusual. You just have to have at least one class of stock with voting rights (e.g., Class A nonvoting common and Class B voting common).

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    FoMoCo is the exemplar of such plays. Why dilute with the great unwashed when you can use their dough and retain control?
  41. Perplexed says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Sergey and Larry haven’t done jack with their immense wealth with respect to “futuristic brave new world projects and concepts,” compared to the likes of Musk and Bezos.
     
    You mean like the Washington Post?

    And Musk’s glorious projects are funded by American taxpayers.

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  42. highrpm says:
    @Anonymous
    Sergey and Larry haven't done jack with their immense wealth with respect to "futuristic brave new world projects and concepts," compared to the likes of Musk and Bezos.

    are they back in school phd’ing in bio-somethings to attempt to get a handle on the new frontier of bioengineering? using the dna model and doing biomimicry with molecules whats been done previously with mechanical solutions? mechanical robots? so 2010′s. on to the real money of biological robots. larry page is evil. and the googler ray kurzweil is delusional. with his singularity talks. hey, its sells his books.

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  43. highrpm says:
    @Skeptikal
    I recently read a "buy" review of Alphabet, pointing out the volume of real estate that Alphabet is acquiring all the way from north of SF down to San Jose.

    According to the writer they have huge plans, and some of them seem to go beyond cyber-business (cf. McDonald's as real estate holding company).

    all along the ca coast line from napa to socal. the most valuable real estate in the world.

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  44. Ivy says:
    @Whiskey
    Sergey and Larry are not that smart. Just lucky. Their luck is unlikely to hold. They are figuring they can play John D. Rockefeller, or Andrew Carnegie, the way Bill Gates did. Beloved anti-White male figures spewing out money to people who write about how awesome they are, or donating money to anti-White initiatives, and the like. All the while sitting on a mountain of cash that has no real threat.

    Of course, if you are say, *President Maxine Waters, and you want to reward your constituents and more importantly, yourself, its a lot easier and more lucrative to seize their money than collect from all the Kulaks. Who have lots of guns, will fight, and have most of the fighting spear of the military on their side unlike Stalin and Lenin. Very Smart Brothas don't do so well in shock battle because they are genetically incapable of it in the main; as opposed to beta White males whose very beta White maleness makes them genetically selected for shock annihilation battle and has for thousands of years.

    So Sergey and Larry are looking at a few years at most of the good anti-White male times before they too are eaten by the crocodile.

    *It is pretty clear that the DC establishment wants Trump gone gone gone. Mueller has convened a grand jury and is clear he will look into every nook and cranny of Trump's finances to find an indictment. Trump will probably try to fire him and have to fire Sessions, Rosenblatt, and a bunch of AG assistants before finding someone to do that; and Ryan, McCain, McConnell, Graham, Rubio, and Cruz have all said that's grounds for impeachment and conviction.

    Ryan will likely want "clean hands" and is probably likely to play the Henry Clay role, and give the Presidency to someone like Maxine Waters who has maximum SJW creds being as anti-White male as it gets and also corrupt and stupid; the perfect figure for the SJW blue haired fattie. Ryan is a cuck, and what could be more Cuckservative than handing over the nation to Maxine Waters? My bet is Ryan's cuckness is greater than his ambition; otherwise he'd have run in 2015 as the close the borders candidate offering to deport not just illegal alien labor but Muslim terrorists and their friends and family members who knew and kept silent. That could have made him President and he knows it -- but he'd rather be a small fish and cuck than King Cock of the Walk.

    If not Maxine Waters then Hillary, or Kamala Harris -- anyone but a White man who cucks revile because it placates and appeases the anti-White male women in their lives.

    Writing as a Californian, I say that it is a pretty sad state of affairs that Maxine Waters has any audience at all. She is one more embarrassment in that sorry delegation. The only positive I can add is that she isn’t my Representative, although I shudder to think about who lives in her district and how she defeated anyone. Maybe she can toddle off to dotage with Diane Feinstein. Wouldn’t that would be the $2 exacta of the year for the Golden State? (Rhetorical, we have an abundance of bullshit issues ranging from dysfunctional reps to sociopathic corps like Google.)

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  45. Ivy says:
    @Clark Westwood

    Isn’t nonvoting common stock an oxymoron?
     
    No, it's perfectly legal and not unusual. You just have to have at least one class of stock with voting rights (e.g., Class A nonvoting common and Class B voting common).

    FoMoCo is the exemplar of such plays. Why dilute with the great unwashed when you can use their dough and retain control?

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    • Replies: @Clark Westwood

    Why dilute with the great unwashed when you can use their dough and retain control?
     
    Unless you're engaging in fraud, the great unwashed who choose to invest in companies where this happens know (or have every opportunity to know) what they're getting into.
  46. Ivy says:
    @TBA
    The pressure from goodthinkers must be enormous, maybe too strong even for the Google guys. After all, a few years ago Larry Summers lost his job as the *president of Harvard* for saying the same thing as Damore. Did Damore know about that, and if so, did he really expect to keep his job?

    Summers screwed up re Harvard consulting in Russia, and got a vote of No Confidence from the faculty. Less Veritas (TM) than met the eye.
    His ‘women in science’ gibe was a public reason for a private debacle. See Andrei Schleifer episode for further detail.

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  47. @Ivy
    FoMoCo is the exemplar of such plays. Why dilute with the great unwashed when you can use their dough and retain control?

    Why dilute with the great unwashed when you can use their dough and retain control?

    Unless you’re engaging in fraud, the great unwashed who choose to invest in companies where this happens know (or have every opportunity to know) what they’re getting into.

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