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From the Harvard Crimson:

Lead Trial Lawyer for SFFA Criticizes Ruling in Harvard Admissions Lawsuit

By Camille G. Caldera, Crimson Staff Writer
October 9, 2019

Students for Fair Admissions’s lead trial lawyer Adam K. Mortara denounced the recent ruling in the Harvard admissions lawsuit, arguing at a Harvard Law School event Tuesday that the judge had misinterpreted the case’s facts and legal precedents. …

The lawsuit has exposed thousands of pages of internal documents, shedding light on the College’s famously secretive admissions process. One such document was a 2013 report by Harvard’s Office of Institutional Research, which found that Asian American applicants consistently receive lower personal ratings — numerical scores assigned to applicants based on abstract qualities like “humor” and “grit.” …

Mortara also challenged Burroughs’ tacit acceptance of the discrepancy in personal ratings as insufficient evidence of discrimination.

“No one — not Judge Burroughs, not Harvard — has ever explained how it is that African Americans and Hispanics just have much better objective personal qualities than white and Asian applicants,” he said. “They’ve never done it.”

“I guess there’s just something more personally appealing about African American and Hispanic applicants,” Mortara quipped. In response, at least a dozen students in the crowd voiced their agreement, shouting, “There is!”

Wesley Yang is not amused:

“Diversity” was always an unstable conceptual foundation for the affirmative action regime. It has required ever more intense emotional investment in the supposed benefits that non-Asian non-whites conferred on others simply through their proximity.

Each legal challenge to affirmative action has ramped up this investment; the Asian-American discrimination lawsuit has turned it into a more or less overt form of idolatry.

“Diversity” was originally an expedient whereby conservative-minded judges reconciled themselves to permitting a form of “positive” discrimination which cut against the grain of the race-neutrality enshrined into both the equal protection clause and the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The premise was that a diverse nation required diverse leadership, so whatever was needed to make that happen was a pragmatic necessity, and we were prepared to do that.

This pragmatism has given way to a form of racial mysticism that makes it not just defensible but somehow compulsory to shout out that some racial groups are inherently more appealing than others.

The “more than a dozen” Harvard Law School students reacted instantly and spontaneously — each individual responding alone, but as if coordinated by a shared set of assumptions.

Nothing could be more revealing about the underlying premise that has been affirmed in a federal court.

There’s an enormous effort at present among the type of people who attend Harvard Law School to reprogram their basic instincts to see black women’s hair as more attractive than blonde women’s hair to avoid slipping up and getting Canceled out of a fabulous career.

One of the odder side effects is that even though the hair of East Asian women and MesoAmerican women is quite similar, Asians are currently seen as “white-adjacent” and thus Bad, while the latter are seen as black-adjacent and thus objectively better.

At least in theory. In practice, nobody much cares about mestizos, other than their swelling numbers.

 
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  1. Kronos says:

    “I guess there’s just something more personally appealing about African American and Hispanic applicants,” Mortara quipped. In response, at least a dozen students in the crowd voiced their agreement, shouting, “There is!”

    Any bets on the racial demographics of the shouters?

  2. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Wesley Yang’s reaction to this gives me an idea. With the success of The Joker, why not an origin story movie for The Riddler? Make the Riddler an Asian man, who’s angry at being passed over for admission by NAMs who can’t solve his riddles. Maybe his day job is test prep instructor.

  3. J.Ross says:

    When will we defend ourselves? Every day our physical safety is threatened by wage-slashing corner-cutting employers of illegals, from the employers of harvesters of vegetables who don’t wash hands, to unworthy construction projects that fall on our heads. Every business which so much as screws up its face at mandatory e-Verify should be collapsed. This more than actually enforcing existing law (which already has proven too much for our failed government) is the real cost of securing the border.
    Bonus: lyingpress spinning lethal boomer cheapness as the contrast betweens stupid lazy whitoids and wise laDHIYnau construction workers.
    https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/investigations/video-shows-concerns-days-before-hard-rock-hotel-collapse/289-48aa9318-0a6e-4ae5-850d-6a984563c16b

  4. Everyone knows why the world is the way it is and everyone instinctively knows how to react to every situation, nothing requires a moment of elucidation what’s more, true to underpinning socialisation through school and media, no one seeks an explanation because everyone knows exactly why you will be punished if you step out of line and what the punishment is: ostracism and financial ruin.

    The mystery is how you think you’ve cornered some niche of knowing what we don’t know already.

    It’s like you’re being rewarded for being the most verbosely clueless last to know.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  5. The premise was that a diverse nation required diverse leadership, so whatever was needed to make that happen was a pragmatic necessity, and we were prepared to do that.

    That sounds like one of the second generation rationales for Affirmative Action, not the original one. I’ve never heard it before. I originally heard that because blacks had been discriminated against in the past, we were going to err a little on their side in the future until they caught up. For example, a proponent of AA would say, “If two applicants for a position are equally qualified, give it to the black applicant.”

    We gradually transitioned to the current “more or less overt form of idolatry” as it became apparent that African Americans were never going to catch up.

    • Agree: Hypnotoad666, TWS, Autochthon
    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @bomag
    , @Jack D
  6. Twinkie says:

    Asians are currently seen as “white-adjacent” and thus Bad

    Welcome to my last few decades.

  7. What is the Mestizo temperament? There is there stereotype of the “Latin hothead”, but is that more about the Spanish?

    When I look at Central and South American history over the last 500 years, I see a pretty compliant population.

    • Replies: @Yngvar
  8. El Dato says:

    This pragmatism has given way to a form of racial mysticism that makes it not just defensible but somehow compulsory to shout out that some racial groups are inherently more appealing than others.

    Being good at undocumented shopping goes a long way.

  9. eah says:

    Wesley Yang is not amused:…

    He wouldn’t be.

    Unamusement about this kind of thing is understandable: college admission is zero sum, and kids’ futures are (unfairly) affected.

    But until the Supreme Court takes a different stand than it did in Grutter v. Bollinger, there is enough precedent for any court to (routinely) rule as in the Harvard case — any plaintiff must be prepared to appeal all the way to the SC; otherwise it’s just a waste of time and money.

  10. JackOH says:

    “Each legal challenge to affirmative action has ramped up this investment; the Asian-American discrimination lawsuit has turned it [affirmative action] into a more or less overt form of idolatry.”

    Yes.

    It’s pretty damned sad to see America fall prey to this sort of phoney-baloney stuff, but there it is. My feeling is affirmative action, that bland phrase, conceals a whole mess of derivative evils that we probably can’t rid ourselves of effectively without a constitutional convention, secessionary pressure (thanks Audacious Epigone), and so on.

    Our corporations have gamed affirmative action to their benefit. Plus, Yang rightly observes this horseshit has achieved the status of a secular idol. Too bad for all of us.

  11. No one — not Judge Burroughs, not Harvard — has ever explained how it is that African Americans and Hispanics just have much better objective personal qualities than white and Asian applicants,” he said. “They’ve never done it.”

    Much like the Zeroeth Amendment to the US Constitution, this was one of the Self-Evident Truths intimated in the Declaration of Independence.

  12. O/T

    Elijah Cummins Dead.

    How long before Trump is implicated by the MSM and Dems?

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  13. OT – people who have work to go to, and no trust funds, tackle climate activists in Canning Town, London.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Lurker
    , @Charon
  14. Arclight says:

    Affirmative action is primarily about how it makes goodwhites feel about themselves for magnanimously giving a leg up to the noble savages – there is no evidence it actually benefits the other groups that get to be in proximity to exotic victim classes, and not many of its supposed beneficiaries receive lasting advantages from it either.

    Make a generation of Ivy Leaguers spend two years in social work, inner city teaching, or property management of urban apartment communities as a graduation requirement, and affirmative action would be history.

  15. JackOH says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    “We gradually transitioned . . .”.

    Harry, you’re right on the money in pointing out that the well-intentioned affirmative action underwent a massive social transformation. Business resisted at first; then it embraced its gamed version of affirmative action to beat down wage demands from those uppity, family-forming White males.

    Plus, talented people of color from other nations started looking good as prospects. Why hire resentful, sullen Dujuan from the ‘hood, or his son with the bullshit degree from the local Podunk Tech, when a polished, upmarket African or sprightly American gal can work the same AA mojo for you without the baggage? Awful stuff really, in my opinion.

    Our gatekeepers, academics and feature journalists, won’t be permitted a forthright analysis of affirmative action. Consensual censorship, or call it what you will.

  16. @Twinkie

    We’ve known East Asians are honorary Arians for decades, but only now are the admissions boards looking to stake out a more official position on the matter.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    , @Twinkie
  17. Andrew Sullivan has an excellent suggestion for Harvard:

    An alternative option for expanding racial diversity is sitting in plain sight though. It wouldn’t rest on a neo-Marxist view of America; nor be a paradoxical liberal attempt to create a temporary exception for color-blindness in order to get to color-blindness in the future. That option is simply to end policies that rig the admissions process to benefit the super-rich and super-privileged. I’m talking about legacy admissions.

    Yes, almost all of these students are white, but the criterion for choosing not to admit them is not their race, but simple fairness. No one should get an unearned advantage, by race or by class and connections and heredity. And one of the benefits of subjecting Harvard to discovery in this trial was the revelation that a whopping 43 percent of white students at Harvard are legacy and special admissions, i.e. there because they’re athletes, legacies, Dean’s List, or children of faculty. Of those, 70 percent would not be there on merit alone.

    If you ended this affirmative action for the super-rich and connected, you’d free up almost a full third of admissions. It’s win-win! More fairness and more racial balance. And there are no constitutional issues involved in Harvard actually using academic merit as the core criterion for admission. What better way to attack “white supremacy” than ending a program that gives extra advantages to the already privileged and not-so-smart?

    What about it, Harvard? Time to check your own privilege, methinks, before you tell anyone else to check theirs.

  18. If it is the case (and it sure seems like it) that we are doomed to have an Eternal Holy Magick Science of Racial Bean-Counting for Every Sweet Spot in Society, then the absolutely most important, first-order priority will of course be…

    to dis-aggregate Jews from Whites in the racial bean-counting sweepstakes.

    Whites and (((Fellow Whites))) must be counted separately, so that we can all see quite clearly who sits where, and why.

    Once the game of Racial Musical Chairs is lighted clearly, and we see with our own eyes how, every single time the music stops, Good Jewish Privilege is quite obviously seen to trump alleged Evil White Privilege, then we can get a clear and strict accounting of who gets what.

    Unless and until that happens, any system of affirmative action must be viewed as intellectually, morally, and socially unserious, and basically evil, racist, and insane.

    • Replies: @Cat Hierophant
    , @Charon
  19. Ano says:

    We all know the Chinese are second-to-none in producing knock-offs of Western luxury brands which can fool even the best; so, instead of grousing, why don’t crazy rich Chinese-Americans just build knock-offs of Ivy League universities?

    Yaleow
    Plinceton
    Harfard
    etc etc

    https://whenonearth.net/11-fake-european-towns-landmarks-made-china/

    Who needs Black Lives Matter vibrancy angrily protesting in the foyer when you can say ‘Hey. Hey. This is library’ to your very own Red Guards?

    • LOL: jim jones
  20. Walsh2 says:

    In other words, Yang proved their point by writing humorless article about it. Asians have a lot of grit, but humor isn’t their strong suit.

  21. The language that increasingly dominates elite discourse pretty well captures this idolatry. In my job, I am unfortunately often expected to attend various talks about “diversity.” Normal language usage would suggest that “diverse” is a word that described some sort of plural entity. One could say, for instance, that Italian cuisine is “diverse,” because there are a lot of variations between different regions, or that the climate of Colombia is “diverse.”

    But, in the corporate context, “diverse” is increasingly used to refer to a trait that some people are imagined to have, and that others lack. At a recent corporate “diversity” event, for instance, I was encouraged to imagine how a “diverse person” might feel in a certain situation. In this ideology, non-white people—the sole possessors of the preeminent value of “diversity”—are seen as intrinsically better and more valuable than whites (and, in some circumstances, Asians).

  22. Also OT.

    NYT – “While you’re enjoying that oh-so-trendy insectburger, we’d like you to know that living in a garage is the next big thing!”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/realestate/adu-empty-garages-california-housing-shortage.html

  23. Oriental women’s hair seemed so much straighter than that of the Chicana’s, but then I found out that many of them go get their hair straightened with a chemical process at beauty salons. Just as with fake tits, though, that doesn’t change my preference one bit.

    The wet-head is dead, but the Pocahontas look is never out of fashion.

  24. Twinkie’s lament aside, perhaps we’d all be better off if we all didn’t give a rat’s ass who did or didn’t get into Harvard. I sure don’t – my Dad passed on a very good attitude, that is, have some integrity and go to college to learn, not for some political connections.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  25. AndrewR says:

    All this stems inevitably from the premise that a “diverse” nation requires “diverse” leadership. Complaining about Diversity Über Alles™ when one accepts the alleged necessity of Diverse™ leadership is like complaining that your boat is flooding after you shot through the bottom with a shotgun.

  26. countenance says: • Website

    I need just one word to draw a through line between all of these moving parts:

    Weave.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  27. Dr. X says:

    The Negrophilia preceded the Bakkedecision. The facts of the case indicated that UC Davis Medical school had a “special” admissions program for blacks and “Chicanos” and was admitting them with GPAs as low as 2.0 and MCAT scores in the 25th-30th percentile. Alan Bakke was twice rejected with a 3.95 GPA and MCATs in the 95-99% range.

    The Court was forced to declare that naming specific races for preferential treatment violated the 14th Amendment. In order to allow affirmative action to continue, however, they postulated the sophism that that discrimination to achieve “diversity,” which did not name specific races in so many words, was permissible.

    • Replies: @Anon
  28. Polynikes says:

    Lead counsel gets it. He’ll continue to make this a big issue if the SCOTUS will allow for appeals.

    I like how he the “white” in there even though the plaintiff and the case is technically only Asian.

    • Replies: @res
  29. ChrisZ says:
    @Arclight

    Better still, Arc, the Ivies should be transformed into “black colleges,” as a form of reparations.

    Nowhere is the legacy of white privilege more pronounced than in these schools. No life-advantage is greater than an Ivy credential. Blacks should have exclusive rights to the latter in order to level the playing field.

    Harvard in particular has no argument against accepting such a transformation. It has just argued vociferously to place racial justice over achievement in admissions; its faculty, students, and alumni largely support that view. Harvard has a historic role to play in repairing the legacy of slavery; if it is not already among the historically black colleges, what’s the holdup?

    • Replies: @Arclight
  30. @Arclight

    property management has my vote. brilliant idea!

    • Replies: @Arclight
  31. Ian Smith says:

    The rationale for letting in underperforming blacks is to enrich non-blacks, yet when they attend universities, they want separate fraternities, separate orientations, separate clubs, and so on. And many of them major in African American studies, where most of the professors and students are also black.

    By the way, has anyone else noticed the phenomenon where white liberals will say derogatory things about Asians while putting blacks on a pedestal?

  32. @Arclight

    My redpiling was complete when I worked as a waiter at a restaurant where about 20% of the customers were black.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  33. bomag says:
    @Kronos

    Any bets on the racial demographics of the shouters?

    No.

    I’d bet they were all White; but I wouldn’t be surprised otherwise.

  34. bomag says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    … as it became apparent that African Americans were never going to catch up.

    This.

    The Narrative changes to keep the cargo cult in business.

    But the problem is that the preferred minorities are sold to us as Supermen who are going to rise up and do awesome things someday if we just quit holding them back.

    Disappointment follows disappointment, but the cultists are happy to call for even more effort.

    But Minorities can under perform longer than SJWs can stay solvent, so the question is how it ends.

  35. OT: another entry level entrepreneur job Americans cannot do. Hasidic Jews doing very well as Amazon merchant sellers. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/16/nyregion/hasidic-jews-amazon.html

  36. Jack D says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Why did the Joker become the main Batman movie villain?

  37. Jack D says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Discrimination claims required evidence. There was no evidence that Northern universities had ever discriminated so they needed another legal rationale.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  38. Neuday says:

    It certainly appears that the future is going to be Ice People vs. Sun People.

  39. @Jack D

    I vaguely remember that the hierarchy of evil in the comic books that I used to read in the 1960s was The Penguin, The Joker, Catwoman and lastly, Riddler.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  40. BenKenobi says:

    reprogram their basic instincts to see black women … as more attractive … to avoid slipping up and getting Canceled

    One of the last late-era Simpsons episodes I ever saw had a B-plot where Lisa met Michelle Obama after interacting online. Upon meeting her, Lisa gushed that she was “the most glamorous and beautiful woman in the world.”

    Homer eating Guatemalan ‘insanity peppers’ and then meeting his Space Coyote spirit-guide was more believable than that. But it really showed reverence for Dear Leader (please clap, and then don’t you dare stop).

    It turns out every Simpsons episode has it’s own wikipedia page:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealing_First_Base

    • Replies: @Lurker
  41. @PiltdownMan

    [Continued- Edit window closed.]

    In the movies, Jack Nicholson’s star turn in the 1989 movie really fixed the character in the public’s mind as Batman’s principal nemesis. Danny De Vito’s Penguin in the movie that followed was an honorable try, but subsequent scriptwriters, directors, and actors really saw the Joker, after Nicholson, as the principal nemesis, the character with the most artistic possibilities.

    The campy 1966 movie doesn’t really count, as it was pretty much a straight adaptation of the light-hearted TV series. And it was a very long time ago.

  42. Whiskey says: • Website

    Worship of Black people is a White female thing. Give them power and get that worship.

  43. jim jones says:

    I see that Elijah Cummings has died, no doubt there is a place in hell reserved for him

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/house-dem-leader-and-trump-nemesis-elijah-cummings-dies

  44. Marty T says:

    Have Asians done much to deserve whites’ allyship in this case? From what I can tell, many prominent Asians are anti white SJW types.

  45. @Kronos

    Your question seems to be rhetorical, or ironic, but I don’t see why.

    Would they be white, indicating the sort of Stalinesque programming and virtue signally SS alludes to?

    Or are they black, thus free to publicly affirm their race — and know to be loud in public?

    And, of course why not both?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  46. ATBOTL says:

    Whites have no dog in this fight between Asians and liberal elites. Both groups are hostile to whites and want to replace us. It’s sickening how since around 2000, white conservatives have simply stopped talking about anti-white discrimination at all, but find the time to whine that 20% isn’t enough Asians at Harvard. Absolutely sick. What is it going to take for white conservatives to start seeing the world in terms of what is good for whites? Will the idea occur to them when they are being rounded up for re-education? I suspect many will be babbling about “I don’t see color” and “Democrats are the real racists” as they are being hauled away in chains by the Diversity Police.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  47. Steve,
    The reasons that Asians are viewed as “White-Adjacent” is because their numbers are small, and alientating them isn’t electoral destruction for the Democrats. In addition they are fairly wealthy and successful despite adversity in the collegate system, so Democrats can milk them with minimal impact.
    MesoAmerican’s are a different breed. They are less successful than Asians, but their income has been rising far more rapidly than any other group in America for the last 20 years or so. Especially in the last 5-6 years. But, they are very politically-incorrect, and while economically left-leaning, are more like Wesley Yang in race-relations than Sarah Jeong. And they are far-more numerous. If Democrats alienate them, then it would result in electoral destruction. Democrats pretend to love Hispanics for their votes, and ignore all the other factors of Hispanicization, like mass gentrification of Blacks by Latinos.
    California is a very good example of this. MesoAmericans have essentially BTFO’d Africans from pleasant, economically successful Coastal California, and many Black leaders have spoken out about this. But, Latinos voters are too strong, so the Democrats bite their tounges, and stick with it. Also, Latinos voted against Gay Marriage in 2008, but you won’t find any Democrats complaning.
    White Liberals would hate people like Hispanics, but they already alientated working class Whites, so they have to ally with Hispanics, or they face Electoral Destruction. So Latinos are “Black adjacent” and good, and if they can’t stomach the lie, then they just outright ignore them
    Here is a good WSJ article on the Hispanic economic rise: https://www.wsj.com/articles/hispanic-household-income-climbs-1536792308

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @syonredux
  48. @Jack D

    Because the character allows, even requires, ham it up, scenery chewing performances that permit actors to get in touch with their inner Jack Nicholson. Such performances are memorable for prole movie goers and even appealing to critics (just enough irony for camp). Box office and awards,what’s not to like? I suppose the Riddler would have done as well… Eh I see Piltdown Man beat me to it

  49. @countenance

    I wonder if that’s what actually drives the campaign to protect black women from the millions of white people stalking them in order to touch “their” hair. In fairness, I imagine Sam Donaldson is pretty sensitive about who gets to touch “his” hair too.

  50. There’s an enormous effort at present among the type of people who attend Harvard Law School to reprogram their basic instincts to see black women’s hair as more attractive than blonde women’s hair to avoid slipping up and getting Canceled out of a fabulous career.

    Harvard Law School is twice as putrid as Harvard University.

    Harvard must be financially liquidated using the tax code to nibble their 40 billion dollar endowment loot pile down to 4 million dollars.

    Federal Judge Allison Dale Burroughs — a BABY BOOMER — must be impeached immediately for her attacks on Asian American students and White Christian students. What percentage of the White students admitted to Harvard are Jews? Why do voters continue to support the Republican Party when the GOP refuses to begin impeachment proceedings against the anti-Asian and anti-White Christian federal judge named Allison Dale Burroughs?

    Don’t forget federal judge Burroughs is the pushy broad in a black robe who demanded that the immigration vetting measures to exclude Islamic Radical Terrorists be rendered null and void. Allison Dale Burroughs should’ve been impeached for that immediately.

    Teddy Cruz is a sneaky smarmy shyster who is a product of the rancid culture at Harvard Law School. I bet Teddy Cruz loved Harvard Law because Teddy Cruz loves that sleazy stuff like nobody else. Sad!

    Harvard guy BORJAS says mass immigration lowers wages for certain cohorts in the USA.

    Harvard guy Teddy Cruz says screw the American workers adversely affected by mass immigration. Teddy Cruz pushes anti-worker, wage-reducing mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and legalization for illegal alien invaders.

    Tweets from 2015:

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  51. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    Don’t worry, Twinkie. When the whites are gone and North America has descended back into the third world, the Chinese will be there to take over.

    The Han are a people who have no qualms about a little population displacement and genocide. Once those pesky whites aren’t around to tssk tssk and meddle, the Han will do what needs to be done.

    It will come too late for you, but the future is yellow.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Corvinus
    , @Twinkie
  52. One of the odder side effects is that even though the hair of East Asian women and MesoAmerican women are quite similar, Asians are currently seen as “white-adjacent” and thus Bad, while the latter are seen as black-adjacent and thus objectively better.

    It is not so much the hair itself, but rather the types of creatures the hair is attached to. Compare Ana Navarro (the Nicaraguan piglet) to any of a whole array of K-pop stars, including the late, lamented Sulli (RIP). Attractive-Bad, Unattractive-Good.

  53. Altai says:

    Asians are currently seen as “white-adjacent” and thus Bad

    A bit unfair, East Asians are, correctly, seen as having high social mobility and wealth, higher than whites, so they aren’t seen as a cohort that needs uplifting. For the purposes of SJWism, East Asians are still ‘diverse’ and East Asians are still just as twitchy as Jews are about immigration and a commitment to the ethnic displacement of old-stock Americans.

    East Asians are still part of the Starbucks-American coalition that wants to make America a giant condo.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  54. Altai says:
    @Jack D

    Because it’s the ultimate antagonist, he is a kind of pure antagonist that you can take in lots of different directions to make any kind of film you want. Plus the makeup means any actor fades into the role making him more ‘real’ and memorable as a character. (Except maybe Jack Nicholson, who was just Jack Nicholson.)

  55. Anon[908] • Disclaimer says:

    I honestly have started to feel some sympathy for black women. I’ve always thought their hair was gross and ugly, but I had no idea until recently how much time, money, and inconvenience has to be invested to get it to that state of gross and ugly and keep it there.

    The bald and crew cut looks don’t work on black women since their facial features tend to be so unfeminine. I think the teased-out, medium length “female astronaut” look might be adequate and give relief from all the upkeep.

  56. “Diversity” was always an unstable conceptual foundation for the affirmative action regime. It has required ever more intense emotional investment in the supposed benefits that non-Asian non-whites conferred on others simply through their proximity.

    It’s especially odious when you consider that the courts are not merely saying that “diversity” is a plausibly good thing that is not irrational for private entities to pursue. The AA cases say that “diversity” is, by definition, such an obviously “compelling state interest” that it justifies exceptions to the plain language of the Constitution. (This is under the so-called “strict scrutiny” standard of review that applies to apparent constitutional violations).

    If the Supreme Court were to apply the same logic to other Constitutional rights they would, for example, permit state governments to regulate newspaper op-ed pages to ensure they represent the correct “diversity” of opinion that the government deems optimal.

    I think even liberal legal scholars will tacitly admit at this point that the Supreme Court’s entire affirmative action jurisprudence is nothing but a disingenuous sham that was reverse-engineered to legally justify what the court believed was a necessary political outcome.

  57. “A diverse nation requires diverse leadership” = the elite of each ethnic subgroup need to be inculcated in the same orthodoxy as white elites to help keep their coethnics in line. Otherwise historically black colleges might develop their own social science theories about blacks that actually compete for black intellectual mindshare with what Harvard and Yale say about blacks.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  58. Yang fails to consider the following:

    -High Asian SAT scores are facilitated by a culture of route memorization and cram schools, usually starting many years if not decades prior to college application. This type of SAT prep is unhealthy and also confuses the cognitive assessment accuracy of the test.

    -The personality assessments are correct. Asians, overwhelmingly, tend to be shy, meek, clannish, overly deferential to authority, and less creative.( I exclude South Asians from this). It’s not unreasonable for elite universities to work to prevent their % of Asian students from going over 20%. They seek to train the future elite, and Asian characteristics do not align with the traits Americans like to see in their leaders.

    -Asians make up less 6% of the U.S population. By any reasonable standard, they are already vastly overrepresented among university students.

    -Asians are relatively new to America and their loyalty is questionable. Chinese-Americans are regularly in the news for handing state and trade secrets to China.

    -Tax payer money supports all universities, including elite private ones that receive billions in grants. Therefore, the diversity of the nation must be reflected in all institutions.

    -The temperament and career interests (e.g pharmacist, doctor, dentist) of the typical straight-A, tiger-mom raised, cram school Asian with fake ECs done only to get into elite colleges is better served attending local universities rather than Harvard and its like.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Twinkie
  59. Comment here more for the author than anyone else…
    I’ve long thought that a lot of the craziness we get from “the left” amounts to a mutated form brought on by an unwillingness of earlier center-and-right-leaning leaders to work in good faith.
    IOW–you had round one, say, where “the left” essentially represented a posture that was a reasonable paeon to holding a diverse and fractured republic, together–but this reasonable paeon was-just-not-acceptable, so every short-sighted political move was spent to spoil the reasonable posture, leading to the opposition returning behind the trench line, re-factoring, and returning as something much, much worse than before.
    Examples abound–besides identity politics we could look at trade or healthcare, both of which the right has essentially steered the country into trillion-dollar sized ditches rather than make reasonable accommodation to the 21st century, but AA, topic-du jour, is an excellent example too.

    As you often elide knowledge of in your articles–1960s style AA was/is more sophisticated than it is almost ever presented. AA was not “quotas”, instead it could be seen as three things: 1) an expectation of a commitment by (large, not small) employers to “affirmatively” work to be sure opportunities are made available to specific populations known to have been subject to past discrimination, 2) “pipeline” affirmative action, meaning that all along the pipeline to job opportunities, communities, education providers and businesses were asked to cooperate to provide -affirmative- work to make sure that preparation opportunites were also available to these specific populations … this for example may counter the effect where a household of say western-European extraction endows their children with sound knowledge of business and technology careers, but a family from another background, suffering little more than ignorance, literally isn’t aware of those opportunities to impress their own children with, and 3) defensive AA, i.e.: the closest actual thing to a “quota”, whereby for (again: large, not small) employers, statistics must be kept so that in the case of an EO/AA claim, if a statistical pattern of failing to hire/promote a specific group exists, then where it comes to the contested case, the company must prove it didn’t discriminate (i.e.: a reversal of the burden of proof, on a case by case basis – and only when statistics deem it warranted).
    The latter too is fairly easily undone-for example, if a company dismisses a protected minority from a role and the former employee files a complaint or sues, then the case is as much as dismissed if the replacement is a minority.

    OK – that’s a lot of verbiage – much tougher than saying “quotas, boo hoo!”, but that’s what the actual law, actually was, and … is.

    There’s nothing in the law about “diversity”. Diversity is an extra-legal method of making an end-run around the practical limits of AA that morph it into something it was never designed to be and it results in perversions exactly like what we see at Harvard, or the satirical/not-satirical cases of “all diverse” teams that are anything but.

    And check it out: you have the entire right-wing, from left-center all the way to “alt-right”, responding extra-legislatively, through lawsuits or media, to “diversity”, rather than taking any legislative steps at all – when we have legislation to crush injustices and mob movements – just like this .

    In other words: the right as much as completely impotented itself. It uselessly resists something that is extra-legal to start with.

    Rather than having these interminable disputes that seem to go nowhere except further down the rabbit hole an alternative posture would be to ask-demand, that GOP elected officials reinvigorate and strenuously enforce – affirmative action laws – as written, specifically with an intent to expose and clobber the sham that is “diversity”.

    Let the left twist itself in knots resisting a right-wing that is: all gung-ho on Affirmative Action, i.e.: “Yes – Affirmative Action!, No – extra-legal diversity”.

    How is the (U.S. government defined) “white” majority harmed by:
    1. Institutions taking objective steps to make sure opportunities are made available to everyone
    2. Institutions taking objective, affirmative steps to assure pipelines to opportunity are exposed to and available to everyone
    3. Are subject to defensible judicial tests of non-discrimination
    ?

    AA – really isn’t that bad – but for three decades we were told it was “quotas” and so it didn’t get effectively implemented, it was diffused to assist people it was never meant for (upper middle class white women and Caribbean immigrants, e-hem), and since it was so effectively fought we got the mutated, Maoist form instead.

    • Replies: @res
  60. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:

    I would much rather talk to someone who’s Asian than someone who is black or Hispanic. I would expect the Asian to understand what I’m talking about, and I would expect the Asian to avoid childish hysterics. These are traits I appreciate.

    I think there’s something else going on here. College interviewers and admissions officers are often female. They’re the sort of smug SJW types who like to play Lady Bountiful. But they want the psychological payoff for it, they want to see that groveling act of eagerness to please and gratitude for a favor conferred that’s more characteristic of Butterfly McQueen than Admiral Tojo.

    “Miss Scarlett! Miss Scarlett! Please save me from that awful UPenn, please, please you gots too!”

    SJW interviewer: *preens*

    Asian applicant: “Well, if I don’t get into Harvard, I’ll just go to Berkeley or MIT.”

    SJW interviewer: *wilts*

    The interviewers hate people who actually see themselves as naturally superior, and unlike blacks or Hispanics, Asians have a history of doing that. Their lack of demonstrativeness reeks of a sense of confidence, and they know they’re getting where they’re going entirely on their own merits, not because someone did them a favor. But if an SJW can’t do a favor, then there’s no emotional payoff for being an SJW.

    Also, SJWs don’t like interviewing people who act like they’re superior to the interviewer (or who act like they know they’ll end up with a better-paying and higher status job than the interviewer). SJW’s don’t like people who don’t suck up to them or play their game, and Asians tend to avoid that.

    After all, what’s the fun in being a gatekeeper if you can’t consign people who didn’t suck up to you to the outer darkness?

    • Agree: Dtbb
  61. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. X

    Medical schools allow sub-par blacks and Hispanics in for a very specific reason. They know that if they don’t, there won’t be any doctors practicing in black ghettos and Hispanic communities. Smart whites won’t go into private practice in those places. Med schools believe that a sub-par doctor is still better than no doctor at all.

    • Replies: @res
  62. syonredux says:

    There’s an enormous effort at present among the type of people who attend Harvard Law School to reprogram their basic instincts to see black women’s hair as more attractive than blonde women’s hair to avoid slipping up and getting Canceled out of a fabulous career.

    Not just blondes, Steve. We must all force ourselves to understand that this

    is vastly superior to these

    • Replies: @bruce county
  63. @eah

    But until the Supreme Court takes a different stand than it did in Grutter v. Bollinger, there is enough precedent for any court to (routinely) rule as in the Harvard case — any plaintiff must be prepared to appeal all the way to the SC; otherwise it’s just a waste of time and money.

    If I recall, LADY JUSTICE O’CONNOR penned the majority opinion, in which she stated that Affirmative Action should no longer be necessary in twenty five years after the publication of the opinion, after which time it should magically become unconstitutional. (2003 + 25 = 2028)

    One would think with a rather short time horizon until the Affirmative Action carriage turns into a pumpkin, there would be much more talk about what the end of Affirmative Action will mean to our greatest strength.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @res
    , @Kronos
  64. Lurker says:
    @BenKenobi

    In related cucktoon territory Family Guy had an episode of abject Obama worship as did American Dad. Watching them one expected a joke or satirical take at the end. But no, both were completely uncritical.

    Seth MacFarlane – your name is on a list . . .

  65. nebulafox says:
    @John Arthur

    Wouldn’t it be nice to have a Republican Party that wasn’t so in love with visibly failed, destructive ideologies (free-market fundamentalism to the extent that they give tax cuts to Silicon Valley oligarchs who hate them, hyper-aggressive militarism that basically denies the last 20 years, Baby Boomer nostalgia in general) that they could actually take advantage of the fact that the Coalition of the Fringes has no inherent stability? Especially as the influence and concerns of woke oligarchs and upper-middle class liberals increasingly overrides just about everything else?

    Donald Trump won the primary simply because he was not Jeb Bush. He didn’t anything more, even a coherent program of his own. Imagine what could happen with a maverick actively willing to plot a new path: one that actually benefits ordinary American citizens more than foreigners-rich and poor-and multinational corporations.

  66. baythoven says:
    @John Achterhof

    “If you ended this affirmative action for the super-rich and connected, you’d free up almost a full third of admissions. It’s win-win! More fairness and more racial balance.”

    That freed-up third would go almost entirely to deserving Whites and Asians. Win for fairness, loss for racial balance. (Good riddance.)

    Really, “more racial balance” — Who’d he think he was kidding?

  67. nebulafox says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Why go to college at all to learn? If you want to learn something, go get a book, download coursework from online, and make sure to set yourself mechanisms to ensure you are actually learning-homework, Feynman processes, etc. Some-MIT-have it all organized for you already. If you want to ratchet up the difficulty of freshman calculus to an introductory analysis course, Caltech’s stuff is there, if you are compulsively scared of baby algebra because you were mathematically abused like most Americans, there’s plenty of places that have an analogy-centered learning style that can overcome that.

    The real answer people go to college is because many employers demand degrees simply because they can: it is a useful filtering mechanism. That, and social connections. The dirty little secret is that a lot of jobs that require a BS-including introductory Wall Street positions-can be done by a sufficiently motivated, intelligent high school student after maybe 6 months of training.

    I suppose it would bother me less if society was more honest about that. I’m not against education. I deeply believe that it is better for society if people knew stuff as opposed to not knowing stuff. If we had a system where a plumber or a schoolteacher who wanted to go learn quantum mechanics in his/her spare time could do so and meet with other people who were, that’d be freaking fantastic. What I’m against is pseudo-education that drives people into massive debt for no constructive purpose.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    , @anarchyst
  68. Arclight says:
    @ChrisZ

    This is a great idea – let’s not go too crazy, though. Let’s just make it 50% set aside, with half having to come from local Boston public schools. See what Harvard looks like when the locals non-college friends and family start showing up on campus to hang out and party.

  69. Arclight says:
    @Tono Bungay

    Black, white, latino, whatever – spend some time working in a community and trying to make sure they keep the place nice and pay the rent on time will teach you a lot about how the other half lives and the decisions they make (repeatedly). To be sure, there are some that have their act together and are doing the best they can with the hand they were dealt, but there are a lot that will obliterate the idea that all that is required is a bit more taxpayer-financed ‘investment’ to turn them into Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

  70. res says:
    @Polynikes

    I like how he the “white” in there even though the plaintiff and the case is technically only Asian.

    The framing in the quote from the article was very interesting (and IMHO very different from the lawsuit):

    “No one — not Judge Burroughs, not Harvard — has ever explained how it is that African Americans and Hispanics just have much better objective personal qualities than white and Asian applicants,” he said. “They’ve never done it.”

    I wonder if that change in framing will help or hurt him.

    • Replies: @Polynikes
  71. nebulafox says:
    @WowJustWow

    That’s not how it traditionally works in most multi-racial societies. Usually, what you have are different ethnic groups dominating different sectors and occupying-by and large-different strata of society. Different degrees of assimilation and intermarriage existed, depending on the given society, as did who happened to be occupying what role at the given time (when Rome fell into chaos in the 3rd Century, it was Balkan peasant generals who ended up dominating the later crisis years, and during Alexander III’s reign in Russia, there was a concerted effort to move away from Baltic German domination of the bureaucracy and military through intense Russification policies), but it was never anything remotely close to an even, “proportionate” ethnic ratio at the apex.

    I suspect that Razib Khan is right: the practical end result of what our elites are pushing for would be something akin to the Ottoman millet system. Many posters here are wrong when they say multiculturalism never works: it has worked very often in history. Just not with Anglo-Saxon style democracy. I suppose this partially explains the increasingly ill-hidden authoritarian wetdreams of our ruling class-their jealousy of China is palpable.

  72. res says:
    @Jack D

    Some good answers from others, but this link makes the Joker seem like the obvious choice (and it seems to be mostly informed by the comics AFAICT):
    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/thegoldencamelfromegypt/lists/top-100-batman-villains/60395/

    MUCH more detail than you ever wanted if you click through the individual villain links.

  73. @Arclight

    Make a generation of Ivy Leaguers spend two years in social work, inner city teaching, or property management of urban apartment communities as a graduation requirement, and affirmative action would be history.

    I don’t know that this would make a difference. I’ve known quite a few GoodWhites that have been faced with stark evidence of…you know…on a daily basis and it makes no difference. Religion is like that.

    One I know spent a couple years in the Peace Corps living in some African village trying to help them learn how to avoid a particular parasitic worm. No matter how many times the Peace Corps folks would explain you wanted to get your water from moving streams rather than a hole filled with mud, they’d just keep doing it. Sometimes he could get through to them not to get water from a specific hole, but then they’d get water from a different hole. He spent two years unsuccessfully trying to explain the difference between moving water and stagnant water, yet returned home still convinced there are no cognitive differences between races. It was astounding.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    , @Arclight
  74. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:

    If, based purely on meritocracy, blacks qualified for 50% of Harvard of admissions, I wonder if anyone would invoke ‘diversity’ to reduce the numbers.

    It’s like ‘too many blacks’ in sports is never a problem.

  75. @nebulafox

    The dirty little secret is that a lot of jobs that require a BS-including introductory Wall Street positions-can be done by a sufficiently motivated, intelligent high school student after maybe 6 months of training.

    Obviously the case. When I was a teenager in Britain only about 3% of the 18-year-old age cohort was attending university, with perhaps another 3% attending other places of higher education such as teacher training college.

    However , jobs still got done perfectly well by people who had not been to college. Prime Minister John Major never went to college, but learned the banking profession through on-the-job training, as did many other professions and occupations like law, nursing, police, or real estate agents.

    If you have an economy where there are too many skilled people, then you need a mechanism to weed out the least capable, but if you have an economy where there is a shortage of skilled labor, then you need a mechanism to give people the relevant skills as quickly as possible.

    In the early 80’s in the UK, many people went on free 12-week courses to learn a computer programming language like COBOL and had highly successful and lucrative careers based on that training alone. Today people are spending years doing information technology degrees when they could probably learn most of what they need on the job.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  76. @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    They were honorary Arians for decades (since 1933, to be precise), but they are destined to be the new Aryans as we fade ingloriously from the scene.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  77. @nebulafox

    Donald Trump won the primary simply because he was not Jeb Bush. He didn’t anything more, even a coherent program of his own. Imagine what could happen with a maverick actively willing to plot a new path: one that actually benefits ordinary American citizens more than foreigners-rich and poor-and multinational corporations.

    Trump deliberately provoked a GOP Donor vs GOP Voter civil war within the Republican Party during the presidential primary campaign of 2016.

    Trump had been talking about trade policy and an out of balance foreign policy for decades, but Trump added a strong immigration component to his policy prescriptions, and he went absolutely politician berserker in bashing the Iraq War debacle of George W Bush. Voters loved it.

    Trump also attacked GOP politicians for being puppets of GOP donors — such as GOP donor Paul Singer owning GOP politician Marco Rubio — and the GOP voter base rocketed Trump to the top of the polls.

    I think Trump’s main booster to winning over GOP presidential primary voters in 2016 was the IMMIGRATION issue. George W Bush had pushed amnesty for illegal alien invaders, and the GOP voters were in a boiling rage over that. Then McCain, Graham and Rubio and many other GOP politicians pushed the nation-wrecking Rubio/Obama Mass Legal Immigration Surge — Illegal Alien Amnesty immigration bill(S 744) in 2013. Boehner had to kill that immigration bill(S 744) in the US House to prevent a bloody civil war over immigration policy in the GOP. That further riled up a large portion of the GOP electorate.

    Jeb Bush was just the baby boomer boob whore politician that the GOP ruling class and the GOP donors wanted to force on the GOP voters. Trump easily took out Paleo diet low energy Jebby Bush. Carbohydrates, in moderation, are necessary for energy and endurance!

    Tweets from 2015:

    • Replies: @Prester John
  78. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:

    When will anyone start a movement to stop referring to the Mesos as ‘Latinos’ or ‘Hispanics’?

    It’s like calling American Indians ‘Anglos’ because they were conquered by Anglos and speak English.

    By that token, Filipinos should be called ‘Hispanics’ because they were also French rule.

    Mesos had their own identity and existence in the Americas for 10,000s of yrs before the Conquis came. Calling them ‘Latino’ is outrageous.

    Also, just as we don’t confuse whites, blacks, and Indians in the US, we shouldn’t pretend Mesos and Conquis are part of a single group called ‘Latino’ or ‘Hispanic’.

    • Agree: Prester John
    • Replies: @Prester John
    , @anon
  79. @William Badwhite

    He spent two years unsuccessfully trying to explain the difference between moving water and stagnant water, yet returned home still convinced there are no cognitive differences between races.

    It sounds like he insufficiently analysed the barriers to learning in this particular situation, as there must have been some reason, whether a linguistic one, or a matter of some kind of convenience as to why the locals insisted on using contaminated groundwater from wells or water holes when moving water was also available.

    Or perhaps there would have been some way of treating the water to remove the parasitic worms that would have made the distinction between standing water and flowing water moot.

  80. @nebulafox

    True, speaking of the weakness of the Coalition of the Fringes, I always felt that if you ran a racialist campaign against Africans/African Immigrants, focusing on immigration, crime, disorder, etc, you would break the Coalition of the Fringes and get vast shares of the Hispanic and Asian vote. I think Audacious Epigone(or Steve Sailer using an Audacious Epigone graph) wrote a post a few years back that showed that Hispanics and Asians were the most realistic about the White-Black IQ gap.
    I feel that for the 2020 race, Donald Trump should try to focus on African/Muslim immigrants more than Hispanic immigration, since the data is so bad for the former that it would be very useful in pulling off Hispanics and Asians. Bonus, he might convince some White suburbanites to switch parties as well.
    Considering how Asians and Hispanics vote on local levels for issues like crime and zoning laws(they support making it difficult for Africans to live in their neighborhood), I would feel like it would be pretty easy to racially prime them like White voters to vote in a similar manner.

  81. nebulafox says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yeah, employers are deathly allergic to training anyone these days, and in the United States, government policy actively coddles them, regardless of how counterproductive this is for society as a whole.

    I think another major issue is pressing a lot of people into college at 18 years old when they have no idea on what to do with their lives yet. There are a lot people out there who are intellectually and emotionally capable of thriving in university at 28 who aren’t (or would pass, but not do so optimally) at 18, but the system is financially structured to heavily incentivize people going at 18 (note that “prestige” schools more or less demand you apply out of high school), not to mention all the non-financial pressures at an age where people are at their most vulnerable to social appeals.

    >If you have an economy where there are too many skilled people, then you need a mechanism to weed out the least capable, but if you have an economy where there is a shortage of skilled labor, then you need a mechanism to give people the relevant skills as quickly as possible.

    Societies that massively overproduce wannabe mandarins are never pleasant places to live in. 19th Century China epitomizes this.

  82. @John Achterhof

    How is this a good idea?

    I’ve no doubt that Sullivan himself, working-class Irish lad that he was, would have found Oxford a much less enriching experience without the gilded sons of the aristocracy still gracing its storied halls in his day.

    The self-made are often ill-made.

    • Replies: @John Achterhof
  83. BRING BACK THE CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUSION ACT!!!!

    God Bless Denis Kearney….God Bless Samuel G0mpers….

  84. @nebulafox

    100% agree. Trump’s message delivered by someone presentable, disciplined, without the baggage etc would be a powerful sight.

    The problem is the candidate would attract very little funding. I was skeptical of McCain-Feingold (in retrospect, the fact McCain was involved was a big part of my opposition) but I do think money is corrosive to democracy. At the very least, out of state (Senate) and out of district (House) funding should be banned.

  85. @Jonathan Mason

    It sounds like he insufficiently analysed the barriers to learning

    The barrier that is a < 70 IQ is a tough one to hurdle, but I agree he "insufficiently analysed" it. The fact that you viewed this is a failure of white people says a lot about your view of things. It also makes you part of the problem.

    Or perhaps there would have been some way of treating the water to remove the parasitic worms that would have made the distinction between standing water and flowing water moot.

    Treating the water in various mudholes that appear after daily rainstorms would be quite a job. I assume that you naturally view that job (and paying for the chemicals required) to be the responsibility of whites.

    • LOL: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  86. The Negrophilia–basically the role of blacks as the sine qua non of diversity–is not hard to explain.

    Minoritarianism is essentially–and definitely intellectually–a Jewish project. But Jewish claims of suffering in America–“they wouldn’t golf with me!”–are so laughably trivial and pathetic that, no matter how energizing to the Jewish victim psyche, smart Jews realized they some actual oppression to justify their minoritarian attack.

    Black American history with slavery and Jim Crow are the justification for the minoritarian attack on white gentiles’ dominance, culture, nation.

    Native Indians could have been useful–as natives have been in Canada and Australia. But they are considerable less numerous, less visible, less voluble and their story–basically being natives, hounded and supplanted by immigrant invaders–is clearly *not* the story, nor the moral arc, that Jews wanted to justify minoritarianism.

    So blacks it was–and is. Blacks–and whatever suffering they endure or unfairness they are subjected to–are the living justification for minoritarianism. Minoritarianism sacred people.

    ~~~

    American Jews have attempted to pose as “the natural allies”–really meaning “the leaders”–of blacks, backed by claims of common “oppression” by evil whitey. (Which makes one wonder why they couldn’t just go off and be free of us and de-oppress together?)

    As i’ve pointed out this claim of common oppression is just laughable.

    Blacks were brought here in chains against their will and forced to do slave stoop labor. And after their liberation, while blacks would have happily integrated, American whites refused to integrate with them, seeing them as inferior and primitive.

    In contrast the Jews were a relatively rich and successful middle man minority in Europe. No one was making them live and be “oppressed” there, they simply refused to leave because the middle-manning was so darn lucrative. And rather than being refused integration by the majority, the most notable characteristic of the Jews, was their refusing integration with the gentiles (integration that had subsumed all other tribes) in order to keep themselves a racially distinct and separate tribe.

    The black and Jewish experiences could hardly be more different. But historical accuracy or trivial questions of choice versus slavery are of no matter. What was required is a hammer to beat on whitey and justify taking his nation … so a black hammer it is.

  87. Arclight says:
    @William Badwhite

    I had the opposite experience living in DC. Many of my white liberal friends would confess after a few drinks that after a couple of years of living there they regularly experienced thoughts that, if expressed aloud, would get them tagged as vile racists. That’s not to say many of them suddenly stopped voting Democratic, but many were totally off the white guilt bus after that, and generally moved to much less diverse neighborhoods as soon as they had the financial means to do so.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  88. @Old Palo Altan

    They were honorary Arians for decades (since 1933, to be precise), but they are destined to be the new Aryans as we fade ingloriously from the scene.

    Nonsense!

    White Core America will deport the Asians — of whatever point on the compass — and be done with them.

    Remember, the central banker shysters are keeping the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate pumped up with currency conjured out of thin air. Raise the federal funds rate to 20 percent, and impose a prohibitive tariff on Asia, remove the Asians from ownership of any corporations in the USA, and redeploy the American Empire out of Asia. De-globalization and de-financialization is on the way.

    Debt repudiations and demographic deportations of a forcible kind can be used when the next round of the global financial implosion hits.

    Plenty of the Normans were hardscrabble before they defeated the Saxons and that conquering spirit will be reborn after the central bankers shysters run out of monetary policy tricks.

    On my father’s side I have Daubney and other Norman blood.

    The answer to 1984 is 1066!

  89. anonymous[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    That requires racial animus which isn’t there among Asians.

    • Replies: @Nico
  90. @Jonathan Mason

    The barrier to learning is that below 85 IQ, you are mostly a creature of instinct and do not retain knowledge. People at 120+ IQ, like you, are on the other side of a chasm.

  91. Anon[305] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    A black or Hispanic person would have replied in a manner that was somewhat less “on the nose,” instead of just repeating the main thrust of the blog entry. No style, hence — not getting into Harvard.

  92. Anon[305] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    None of those things are going to happen, but feel free to fantasize, since you presumably have little else going on in your life.

  93. @YetAnotherAnon

    Lulz, seems more than a few English types are up to the task of taking their country back. It would be nice if Police and Parliament had the same mettle.

  94. @Pat Hannagan

    I think you might want Down Home Town from the same album.

    • Replies: @Charon
  95. @Charles Pewitt

    Harvard Law School is twice as putrid as Harvard University.

    And then there’s the Kennedy School of Government.

  96. @Arclight

    That’s funny. I know quite a few of those as well. Its always “We moved to [insert lily-white suburb here] for the good schools. One thing we miss living here though is the diversity”. I’ll sometimes wink and say “by good schools, you mean no blacks right”? Some act horrified, some basically nod in agreement.

  97. syonredux says:
    @John Arthur

    Look, Latinx gotta understand that Blacks get priority….

    Unpacking the Gina Rodriguez Controversy

    On Tuesday, Gina Rodriguez broke down in tears after she was asked in an interview about criticism that referred to her and some of her recent statements as anti-black. Rodriguez has faced scrutiny for a series of comments she’s made about race and gender in Hollywood — specifically, she’s been accused of pitting black and Latinx actresses against each other, and of shutting down conversations about the specific struggles black actresses face. (Rodriguez insists that she never meant to hurt anyone, and that she dedicates herself to empower all women.)

    When Black Panther began the promotional run leading up to its 2018 release in the summer of 2017, Gina Rodriguez responded to the news by tweeting, “Marvel and DC are killing it in inclusion and women, but where are the Latinos?! Asking for a friend…”

    Rodriguez’s timing was called into question. Her remark came along as the first superhero film featuring a black leading cast made its debut, which many considered to be reductive of a moment that wasn’t about her.

    During a 2018 press interview, she interrupted co-star Yara Shahidi when she was asked about being a role model for black women.

    The comment was only a second in a three-minute video clip, but put in context with her previous statement, many perceived that Rodriguez was inserting herself into a conversation she wasn’t invited to and actively attempting to diminish discussions specifically about black women. Some people referred to the moment as Rodriguez “All Lives Matter”–ing Shahidi and the interviewer.

    https://www.thecut.com/2019/01/what-to-know-about-the-gina-rodriguez-controversy.html

    • Replies: @John Arthur
  98. @Anonymous

    “Latino” is a b.s. shorthand. Spanish is derived from Latin, the Mesos speak Spanish ergo..etc. Using that logic French Canadians are “Latinos” too since French is also derived from Latin. Or Portuguese -speaking Brazilians. Slightly o.t. but “America” is also a b.s. shorthand since it was originally a geographic term and not a political term as it was supposed to refer to the entire Western Hemisphere and not just to what would become the United States i.e. Canadians, Argentinians and Panamanians are all “Americans”.

  99. MarkinLA says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    She also later punted on the 25 years and suggested it might take much longer.

  100. Kronos says:
    @James J. O'Meara

    Since the BLM Movement, I’m always looking for clues on genuine or controlled Black political actions. Who’s typically more supportive of racial discrimination against Asians? Blacks or liberal Whites?

  101. @syonredux

    Afros.. They aren’t just a place for hair picks anymore.
    Combs and brushes be rayciss an’ sheeit

  102. res says:
    @Simplepseudonymichandle

    How is the (U.S. government defined) “white” majority harmed by:
    1. Institutions taking objective steps to make sure opportunities are made available to everyone
    2. Institutions taking objective, affirmative steps to assure pipelines to opportunity are exposed to and available to everyone
    3. Are subject to defensible judicial tests of non-discrimination
    ?

    1. OK
    2. OK
    3. ROTFLMAO! Do you really think the approaches we have now would pass such a test?

    As long as disparate impact is considered de facto evidence of discrimination there is no hope of your 3. ever happening.

    Or do you think all races have equal average abilities and interests?

  103. res says:
    @Anon

    Any data on how many of those admittees are choosing to practice in the places you describe?

  104. On the other hand, the gender gap is worse for Asian immigrant men than for assimilated, American-born Asian men. Yang, for instance, is now married.

    A single day walking around Seoul convinced me that there were really two races of Koreans: a soft, coastal one serving as a midpoint between the Chinese and Japanese face (a few years in Hawaii’s public schools had already sharpened my eye), and a harsh, wind-blown, darker and more Altaic one that might have just dismounted a horse in from the steppes.

    I wonder if this latter type is more successful with the ladies.

    Martial arts are the one sphere where Asian men can leapfrog other races and compete on personality and manliness. Interestingly, Japanese arrived in Brazil just as the slaves were freed. The latter had already developed capoeira, a more feminine dance which was a martial art in disguise.

    Has anyone studied the black-Asian competition in mating, fighting, personality, pop culture, and school admissions in Brazil?

    At least in theory. In practice, nobody much cares about mestizos, other than their swelling numbers.

    And swelling members.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  105. MarkinLA says:

    This is the inevitable result of taking complex problems that should be resolved democratically and giving them over to idiots who think their degrees from Harvard Law School somehow give them insight into the workings of the universe. We have had one bad decision after another from these clowns simply because they think their legal experience gives them some special wisdom that lets them ignore the clear meaning of the law for some greater good.

    If AA had been struck down as it should have been, some explicitly stated compromise could have been worked out that people could agree on (uncluding a sunset clause). It could have been limited to direct descendants of slaves or registered members of an officially recognized tribe. Few whites at the time would have been against a reasonable boost for these people.

    Instead we get drivel from a moron like O’Conner that inevitably works to expand this nonsense to almost everybody in perpetuity.

  106. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @IvyLeagueDaroodMan

    -High Asian SAT scores are facilitated by a culture of route memorization

    Seems pretty old fashioned to me, why not just use one of the online map apps?

  107. res says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    One would think with a rather short time horizon until the Affirmative Action carriage turns into a pumpkin, there would be much more talk about what the end of Affirmative Action will mean to our greatest strength.

    No, it just means next time they will be smart enough to choose someone further from her expected end of lifetime to set the bar beyond it.

  108. I wonder what the flunk-out rate is at Haavaad or Yale (the latter traditionally pronounced in Greenwich Yacht Club fashion through clenched teeth) or any of the other Ivies. Anybody know? Though I can’t vouch for the accuracy of this, I’ve heard that the flunk-out rate is virtually nil. Once you’re in, you’re in (which may explain why Little George Bush managed to eke out a degree from Yale). You can only voluntarily drop out like Bill Gates who by his own admission was “bored” with the place.

  109. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    When will anyone start a movement to stop referring to the Mesos as ‘Latinos’ or ‘Hispanics’?

    Done. They are all now Latinx. Success!

  110. @Charles Pewitt

    I would say immigration plus rejecting neocon Wilsonianism. Saving the rest of the world doesn’t cut it when your own country is collapsing like a cheap camera. Also throw in anti-globalism (even though Trump’s international business empire epitomizes the exact opposite–but, never mind). I don’t know how a guy like Trump, who really is not a politician in any sense of the word, can survive in a rough and tumble political world that is The Swamp. Even if he doesn’t survive, Trumpism won’t die> And that’s fixed. It says here that inevitably someone as yet unknown will eventually emerge who is a Trump but who is far more politically savvy, which (politically speaking) would make this person a Jesus to Trump’s John the Baptist.

  111. @Prester John

    Flunk out rate is 2 to 4 percent.

  112. @William Badwhite

    Treating the water in various mudholes that appear after daily rainstorms would be quite a job. I assume that you naturally view that job (and paying for the chemicals required) to be the responsibility of whites.

    If there was daily rainfall, then teaching the people to collect water in cisterns or barrels would seem feasible. If Haitians can do it, I am sure Africans could do that too.

    Haiti has a terrible problem with contaminated water, but the problem is essentially lack of money. There is clean drinking water to buy, but many people cannot afford it. These people are collecting water from a broken water main.

    The way to teach people not to collect water from muddy puddles is to deal with the leaders and influencers and pay them to teach the others. See below.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    , @Kronos
  113. @J.Ross

    How will Baltimore survive without his bold leadership ?

  114. Lost in all of this is the fact that the CRA of 1964 included women, and that Affirmative Action has benefited women from the start. Arguably more so than the black men it was intended for. This had the effect of greatly increasing the supply of mid-range office labor.

    It’s sort of becoming possible to admit that Im…Imm…Immigration into the US has had clear effect on wages for the working class and especially working poor. But it isn’t so easy to point out that expanding the supply of office workers contributed to the stagnation of wages for the middle class.

    Women are arguably the biggest beneficiaries of AA and “diversity”, even though People of Color-of-skin-not-content-of-character are the more visible ones. There is of course zero chance of ever dialing back on this, even as women become the majority of college students, because of their ingroup preference. Therefore even as women wail louder about the lack of “good men” they will continue to take the special privileges, while denying they are doing anything of the sort.

    At least Title IX won’t apply to engineering school for a few more years. Bridges will continue to be mostly safe.

  115. @J.Ross

    Look at the bright side; it’ll be easier to distinguish between him and John Lewis.

    • LOL: Dtbb
  116. JohnnyD says:

    I initially thought the headline said “Wesley Yang on the Roots of the Current Necrophilia in the Bakke Decision.”

  117. Let’s get s0mething straight……Chinese “Americans” are not honorary White Americans….Chinese “Americans” are a highly RACIALIZED post-1965 nonwhite Democratic Party Voting……And Chinese LEGAL Immigrants and their US born Han GENELINE are in America for two reasons:

    1)To vote Whitey into a White Racial Minority-White Racial Foreigner within the borders of America on Nov 3 20202…

    2)To colonize the LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE of America for the HAN GENELINE…

  118. Kronos says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    By that time, US major cities won’t possess such a large hopping mad black population.

    (D.C. will likely burn, but that’s to be expected.)

    • Replies: @Ed
  119. Anon[672] • Disclaimer says:

    I read through Yang’s recent twitter . . re: “white-adjacent”, I don’t think he’s quite grasped that in the urban public school context (and probably in the Silicon Valley context too), complaints about “white supremacy” are really just complaints about Asians, in the guise of fighting illusory white racism. Thus, he is frustrated when he points out to some guy agitating against selective public schools that Asians are a major beneficiary of selective programs, moreso than Whites, and the guy goes on pretending it’s about Whites. No. He knows perfectly well it has almost nothing to do with Whites and white supremacy. That guy is knowingly and deliberately making a bad faith argument precisely because he wants to undermine poor Asians (who threaten his status). I used to give White progressives a lot more benefit of the doubt about this bullshit, but I’ve now seen enough to realise that most of the time, they know quite well what they’re doing and are doing it intentionally.

  120. Corvinus says:
    @Anon

    “When the whites are gone and North America has descended back into the third world, the Chinese will be there to take over.”

    Patently false. The woke whites wearing the MAGA hats, men such as yourself, will save the day. Think of yourself as Whitey Mouse.

    “The Han are a people who have no qualms about a little population displacement and genocide.”

    Neither did the Europeans.

  121. Kronos says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    If there was daily rainfall, then teaching the people to collect water in cisterns or barrels would seem feasible. If Haitians can do it, I am sure Africans could do that too.

    Won’t that encourage Africa’s best friend?

  122. Ed says:
    @Kronos

    Funny DC is actually experiencing a rise in homicides even with increasing gentrification and declining black population.

    Maybe the holdover blacks are more violent than the ones forced out?

    • Replies: @Kronos
  123. @Kronos

    In response, at least a dozen students in the crowd voiced their agreement, shouting, “There is!”

    Any bets on the racial demographics of the shouters?

    Low impulse control.

    Maybe they thought they were at the movies and were yelling at the screen.

    • LOL: Charon
  124. songbird says:

    I wonder if affirmative action in higher ed isn’t massively dysgenic for blacks.

    If you are really grabbing for the smarter ones, especially the women, and putting them on a long academic track where they have less fertile years. And probably rewarding them more in the job market, effectively incentivizing otherwise worthless degrees. Is that really helping blacks, in the long term? I doubt it.

  125. @Dave Pinsen

    Make the Riddler an Asian man, who’s angry at being passed over for admission by NAMs who can’t solve his riddles

    The “Liddler”?

  126. @syonredux

    I find that the better performing a minority in America is, the less of a need for representation in popular culture. Black people have it so miserable in America, that they look for the only victories that they can find, which is forcing pushover Whites to plaster Black faces all over the silver screen. If Blacks cannot do good in America, at least they can rub it in the faces of the global poor that they indeed are Americans at least. It’s needed to bolster their confidence after numerous defeats from life.

    In addition, African Americans need constant affirmation in popular culture so people don’t pay attention to the disorder and crime that their communities bring to this country. It is reinforced gaslighting of the highest order.

    Hispanics do good enough in America, that no one needs to think about them. Their incomes are growing just enough that there is really no discontent that pushes them to vote in mass numbers, and their crime rates are low enough that no higher power needs to coddle them, nor do other people make complaints about them. It’s telling that Steve Sailer, after more than a decade of blogging in the middle of Latino Los Angeles, has very little to say about his day to day life interactions with Hispanics.

    It’s like why no one particularly cares about Italian Americans or Dutch Americans. They do good enough that they don’t make a fuss, and they are pleasant enough to live around that nobody else will make a fuss about them.

    Our immigration system needs to be geared toward people who don’t make a fuss. However, people who don’t make a fuss in America aren’t reliable voters for the Democratic party, so there is an attempt to push for lettering in people who will make a fuss.

    In addition, Global birthrates are trending toward the kind of folk who do make fusses, and away from the chill type of people who make civilization prosper.

    God help us.

  127. @Old Palo Altan

    I think that I’m less keen to this background information than you, Altan, but seeing now that Sullivan did go to Oxford, and then Harvard, makes his challenge to Harvard all the more impressive, to my mind. But then the pretense and protectionism of elitism may not appeal as strongly to him as others: he is genuinely elite.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  128. Forbes says:
    @Kronos

    What are black HLS students or faculty for $200, Alex?

  129. Kronos says:
    @Ed

    Well isn’t that a lingering hemorrhoid effect of BLM? Obama may have left, but I’m sure DC Police feel it’s a Hillary Clinton Presidency.

  130. Forbes says:
    @Jack D

    Which is how disparate impact came into play. As no evidence of overt or invidious racial discrimination existed, disproportional racial/ethnic representation disparities will be presented as evidence–as if all racial/ethnic groups should be equally represented throughout society.

    • Replies: @guest
  131. guest says:

    Why look upon decisions in federal court as if they’re based upon reason? Because they’re often just post-hoc rationalizations. They might also be lies. Ya know, everyone hates lawyers, and judges are lawyers who kissed a lot of bottoms.

    To pretend legal race-theory somehow changed between now and 1964 is dubious to me. Surely the tune has been changed, but that’s just music. There need not be any solid rationale behind it. Take the gay “marriage” decision. (PLEASE!) No evolution in legal thinking whatsoever took place before the gavel fell upon human history from time immemorial. The evolution was political.

    In the case of race-admissions, it’s politics as well. Asians can be useful against whites, but they are low man on the Dieversity totem pole. That’s it. Blacks and browns have more juice, therefore people think up stupid but hopefully convincing reasons to boost them.

  132. guest says:
    @Prester John

    Dubya wouldn’t need broad university policy to get by. He was always carried through life on a cloud of friends-and-family help. Also, he was Skull and Bones and they probably had secret spells and magic powders to apply upon professors for good grades.

  133. guest says:
    @Forbes

    Still waiting for that to applied to the NBA.

  134. keypusher says:
    @John Achterhof

    He’s quoting a recent Duke study that buried its own most striking conclusion, which was that if you eliminated legacy admits, sports admits, and AA at Harvard, you would of course wind up with a massive increase of Asians, about the same number of whites, and massive decreases of blacks and hispanics. And since the authors buried it, nobody knows about it except for a few internet cranks.

    Some of those cranks probably read Andrew Sullivan, and he is relatively numerate, so it’s possible he could be set straight on this issue.

  135. Polynikes says:
    @res

    I’m familiar with him. He’ll be fine. In my assessment (obviously reading the tea leaves a bit), he’sa true believer. Good to have on our side.

    • Replies: @res
  136. They have a point, sorta, giving blacks high scores on “personality”. They’re probably going to be way more active in extracurriculars (esp student govt) than Asian grinds will be.

  137. A diverse country needs a competent government, it doesn’t matter how diverse it is.

  138. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:

    In the past 5-7 years, a lot of the white liberals I know have changed the way they say the word “diverse”. Before it was just a word in their vocabularies. Now whenever they say it they seem to pause reverently, like they’ve just said a mantra or incantation. Saying X is diverse is automatically assumed to be good with no other explanation or evidence necessary. In fact, once the D-word is spoken, no evidence needs to be given that X is actually diverse according to any commonly accepted(at least pre-2010) definition of the word(and X often isn’t).

  139. bjondo says:

    Break up Harvard into threes:

    Harvard A for Asians.
    Harvard B for Blacks.
    Harvard C for Caucasians.

    PragerU for Others.

  140. MBlanc46 says:
    @ATBOTL

    I’m happy to see the Asians causing trouble, but I hope that they lose. Let them taste a bit of what they dish out to us.

  141. MBlanc46 says:
    @nebulafox

    I don’t think that it’s ideologies that Repubs are in love with. It’s the trillions to be made from globalization.

  142. Forbes says:
    @John Achterhof

    Well, whites make up ~33% of Harvard admits, so 43% of 33% gets you <15% of the admits. If you free that up, you just get more Asians and whites, ISTM, if you're going by grades & SATs.

    And if you're going by grades & SAT scores, you get very few blacks and Hispanics–much fewer than currently. So you're just moving the chairs around on the Titanic for a different set of people who get in the lifeboats. Doesn't seem to answer the question.

  143. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    … to dis-aggregate Jews from Whites in the racial bean-counting sweepstakes.

    Whites and (((Fellow Whites))) must be counted separately, so that we can all see quite clearly who sits where, and why.

    If I understand your thinking, you are suggesting that statistical accounting should distinguish between Whites and (((Honorary Whites))) so it will be seen that it is the latter who are privileged, not common Whites. But when it comes to legal discrimination against Whites, it might be better to insist that (((Honorary Whites))) and standard-issue Whites are the same and must be treated exactly the same. Demand that Hershel Goldberg step aside for the sake of diversity. Fair and equal ethnic cleansing for all Persons of Non-color!

    Hershel might soon find himself on the side of the White “racists.”

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  144. Yngvar says:
    @RichardTaylor

    An endless parade of revolutions, counter-revolutions, coups, death squads, massacres, insurgencies, guerrillas, cartels, helicopter rides and ordinary killing — the Nogringo is belligerent.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  145. Lurker says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Most heartwarming!

    Interesting to note the lack of police. If they had be present the protesters would have been up there for hours and the station closed and line blocked while the correct messages were sent out via MSM and social media. Then, after numerous risk assessments, an army of police, firefighters and rail staff would have got them down.

    Different footage:

    Just after those two were laid low, a third protester filming on the platform was also robustly dealt with when people realised he was involved. I can’t embed this one, you’ll just have to click link to see a bleating soy boy. Godfrey Elfwick brought to life:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/extinction-rebellion-protest-london-latest-canning-town-video-mob-tfl-a9159576.html

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  146. Charon says:
    @J.Ross

    Sometimes your posts summon the force of a righteous whirlwind.

  147. Charon says:
    @The Alarmist

    “From the sublime to the ridiculous”

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  148. Charon says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Best thing I’ve seen in roughly forever.

    Not much about it in the MSM over here for some reason.

  149. Charon says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Alas, you’ve also pretty much explained why this disaggregation will never happen. (Funny, my Android device keeps insisting that I meant to type desegregation.)

  150. anarchyst says:
    @nebulafox

    I too sought out a trade instead of college, while engaging in many educational pursuits.

    Pursuing a trade allowed me to earn a very comfortable living while having the time to truly educate myself.

    I am comfortable discussing just about any subject with anyone from pre-schoolers, high-school dropouts, to those with advanced degrees and PhDs.

    In fact, I have had PhDs remark positively about how truly educated I am despite lacking a college degree. There has been some negative criticism from insecure college types about my alternative learning of various subjects to these misguided individuals who resent my extensive knowledge and lifelong love for learning, despite not possessing a “college degree”..

    In my younger years, it used to bother me, but no more it is THEIR problem, not mine.
    Opening one’s mind does not require a college degree. In fact, there are those who made great strides in science and technology despite not having a college degree.

    One prime example of this is the story of Stanford Ovshinsky. A machinist by trade, he came up with the idea of “amorphous semiconductors”. Traditional semiconductors are fabricated from crystalline structures, by complicated processes, which are then “doped” with various impurities to gives them unique electrical characteristics.

    Ovshinsky’s method utilized non-crystalline methods which could be simply “sprayed” on a surface, while possessing these unique electrical characteristics, much less expensive to produce. He took his ideas to local universities, whose professors scoffed at him and told him that his ideas would not work.
    He still pursued his line of ” thinking outside the box” and was extremely successful.

    Multinational corporations such as Sony and Sharp have licensed his patented technology. These same universities, who initially rejected him, in later years, have invited him as a peer and have finally embraced his unconventional methods who they initially said wouldn’t work.

    Thinking outside the box can be a lonely pursuit, but is quite often necessary to advance the technology. Mr. Ovshinsky himself, admitted that if he had received a traditional college education, he would not have come up with his successful ideas…

  151. Twinkie says:
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    honorary Arians

    Even honorarily I am not a heretic. As an obedient Catholic, I am fully, 100% Trinitarian. 😉

    • LOL: Old Palo Altan
  152. Twinkie says:
    @Anon

    Don’t worry, Twinkie. When the whites are gone and North America has descended back into the third world, the Chinese will be there to take over.

    I am not Chinese.

    It will come too late for you, but the future is yellow.

    Highly unlikely as East Asian fertility is lower than that of Europeans, let alone Africans.

  153. Twinkie says:
    @IvyLeagueDaroodMan

    route memorization

    Yes, you needed to memorize spelling better. Unless you were traveling somewhere.

    Asians, overwhelmingly, tend to be shy, meek, clannish, overly deferential to authority, and less creative.( I exclude South Asians from this).

    Yes, South Asians are aggressive, communitarian, independent, and creative.

    That’s why the term “rooftop Indians” exist… because when the blacks came for them, Indians didn’t run at all. They took to the roof, armed themselves, and fought off the blacks.

    I applaud these gutsy, non-“shy, meek” Indians:

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Anon
  154. @Charon

    You ain’t just whistlin’ Dixie, son.

  155. @Twinkie

    Hmmm … I thought South Asians avoided Koreatown like the plague. Good to know The Republic has some heros left.

    • Replies: @Anon
  156. Twinkie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    A single day walking around Seoul convinced me that there were really two races of Koreans: a soft, coastal one serving as a midpoint between the Chinese and Japanese face (a few years in Hawaii’s public schools had already sharpened my eye), and a harsh, wind-blown, darker and more Altaic one that might have just dismounted a horse in from the steppes.

    I wonder if this latter type is more successful with the ladies.

    Well, much as I like to trust your poetic rendition of Two Koreas and sensitivities, genetic studies show that Koreans – pretty much everywhere – are descended from roughly 2/3 Southeast Asian rice farmers and 1/3 Eastern Eurasian steppe/hunter-gatherer populations (the Japanese are roughly the same in composition).

    The differences you saw are likely more reflective of class difference. Rural people who descend from peasants tend to have that “harsh, wind-blown, darker” appearance while city folks tend to have that pudgy-faced, fair skin tone. The major difference among Koreans these days is between South Koreans and North Koreans. The former are taller, healthier, and have higher IQ due to the much greater economic and social development and affluence. The latter are captives in a autarkic, dynastic, and communist nightmare and suffer accordingly – terrified, emaciated, unhealthy, and brutal.

    Phenotypically, East Asians are fairer and taller northward and shorter and darker southward along the longitudinal axis. And, crudely-speaking, the fairer and the taller do better in the mating market.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  157. @John Achterhof

    “[T]he sad truth is that as a rule,” Sullivan wrote, “[Rhodes Scholars] possess none of the charms of the aristocracy and all of the debilities: fecklessness, excessive concern that peasants be aware of their achievement, and a certain hemophilia of character.”

    “The self-made are often ill-made”, anyone?

  158. @Lurker

    Notice the Independent calls them a “mob”, because they’re BadWhites.

    GoodWhites or black rioters are “demonstrators”, “protesters” or “activists” – as in “masked activists blocked roads and set fire to a MacDonalds“.

  159. ATBOTL says:
    @Cat Hierophant

    No, the first strategy is better. Your idea is simply to continue the status quo. Jews will make sure they get what they want even if real whites drop to zero at these colleges. Their whole strategy is based on impersonating us and usurping what is ours. They have only been able to do this because we don’t have a sense of our own identity. You want us to double down on that failed strategy of allowing hostile out groups to be considered the same as us. How the hell would we “Demand that Hershel Goldberg step aside for the sake of diversity” if we don’t distinguish between whites and Jews?

  160. @Kronos

    LOL at the boomer replies from @bomag, @James J. O’Meara, @Laurence Whelk, @Forbes

    The correct answer is the shouters are jews.

  161. @J.Ross

    When will we defend ourselves?

    When we stop caring about being called anti-semetic.

  162. Anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    I’m mixed South Asian/Euro-American and my “girlfriend” (in quotes as I don’t want to call her virtue into question) in high school was Korean.

  163. Anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    South Asians, like everybody else in the world, have long traditions of communitarian violence, it’s just that we largely get softer upper-class ones (or merchant castes like Patels) as immigrants.

    In England Sikhs turn out to defend themselves: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/london-riots-armed-sikhs-protect-gurdwara/articleshow/9552057.cms?from=mdr

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  164. @Twinkie

    …terrified, emaciated, unhealthy, and brutal.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    Your collection of descriptors makes Hobbes’s ‘Solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short’ sound like a law firm in comparison.

  165. @Anon

    In England Sikhs turn out to defend themselves:

    Is this even legal? Even with their holy daggers?

  166. Nico says:
    @anonymous

    The Sarah Jeongs have been changing that of late.

  167. @Yngvar

    Mestizos and tropical Amerindians are violent, petty, surly, conniving, disloyal, short-tempered, fatalistic. The compliance comes of incompetence to understand how to seize and wield power in an organised way; hence the whites control everything (even if the particular whites in control changes from time to time due to the perennial revolutions and coups) while the dusky Amerindians and mongrels fight each other all day.

  168. @The Alarmist

    “I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.”

    Mark Twain

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