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Why Trump Has It Backwards on Minority Groups
Their success won’t pose a threat to working class-whites; it’s their failure that would hurt society.

RONALD BROWNSTEIN 6:07 AM ET POLITICS

AUSTIN, Tex.—The underlying theme connecting much of Donald Trump’s message is that demographic, economic, and cultural change is erasing the America that his supporters remember and revere.

Usually implicitly, at other times more overtly, Trump posits a zero-sum world in which gains for minority groups threaten both the physical security and economic opportunity of native-born whites. Trump’s core promise is that he will “make America great again” by combating the changes that his supporters believe are endangering them—whether by deporting millions of undocumented immigrants, imposing “a pause” on legal immigration, temporarily banning all Muslim immigrants, or standing up to black protests against the police.

It’s a vision that has clearly energized many Republican voters—as Trump demonstrated again with his convincing victories in Michigan and Mississippi on Tuesday. In the latest national ABC/Washington Post poll, Trump led Ted Cruz, his closest competitor, by about two-to-one among the nearly half of Republicans who believe that whites are “losing out” because of preferences for African Americans and Hispanics; he slightly trailed Cruz among those who don’t.

But it doesn’t take much time in Texas to recognize that Trump’s zero-sum equation is misguided, even inverted. For that matter, so is much of the dialogue from the Democratic presidential candidates that frames the goal of increasing opportunity for communities of color primarily as an imperative of social fairness.

In fact, as Texas demonstrates, equipping more families of color to reach the middle-class is neither a threat to whites nor primarily a moral obligation for them. It’s become a matter of self-interest. Whether you cheer the trends or decry them, the inescapable reality is that kids of color represent a growing share of the nation’s future students, workers, and taxpayers. If more of them don’t succeed, not only will their communities suffer, so will the overall society.

And what better way to make sure the current ones succeed than to import lots more foreign ones?

Yet from birth to adulthood, these young Hispanic and African American Texans face gaping opportunity gaps. About one-third of both black and Hispanic kids in Texas live in poverty, according to the Annie E. Casey Foundation’s encyclopedic Kids Count project. That’s triple the share for Texas whites. In every major Texas city, minority kids are vastly more likely than whites to attend schools where most of their classmates qualify as low-income. Fewer than one-in-five Texan African American and Hispanic students score as proficient in 8th grade reading on national tests—less than half the level for whites. In a long-term study of the 8th grade class of 2004, only 13 percent of blacks or Hispanics, compared to 29 percent of whites, had obtained any post-secondary credential 11 years later.

None of these problems are unique to Texas. But the stakes in solving them are especially high here—in ways that will become increasingly relevant to other states. The Rice University sociologist Steve Murdock, who directed the U.S. Census Bureau for George W. Bush, has projected that non-whites will provide all of the growth in the Texas work force through 2050. Latinos alone will contribute nearly three-fourths of the increase, while whites will plummet from about half of workers now to about one-fifth then.

If the state can’t raise the educational achievement of its diverse workers, Murdock has written, “the Texas labor force … will be less well-educated, work in lower-status occupations, and have lower incomes in 2050 than 2010.” The state’s official higher education strategic plan last year similarly warned that without substantial minority post-secondary gains, the result “will be a poorer and significantly less competitive state.”

Over time, the nation faces the same equation. As in Texas, demographers forecast that workers of color will provide all of the national work-force growth in the coming decades. And as the demographer William Frey has projected, if college-completion rates don’t rise for African Americans and Hispanics, the share of all adults with a college degree will start shrinking by 2020.

Such a decline, which is probably unprecedented in American history, would ultimately threaten the financially strained and culturally aggrieved white voters cheering Trump’s insular message. If the workforce regresses in skills as it diversifies, the resulting decline in competitiveness and growth would hurt not only minorities but also the shrinking white majority.

Likewise, even as the predominantly white baby boom moves into retirement, Social Security and Medicare will be strained if earnings—and thus payroll tax obligations—lag for the increasingly diverse younger workforce. As I’ve written before, there is no financial security for the gray without economic opportunity for the brown.

In the clamorous campaign dialogue, America faces a bitter racial battle for influence and opportunity. In reality, as usual, Americans are more interdependent than their politics allows—as more leaders in even this most conservative of states are coming to recognize.

A political compromise might seem to suggest itself: more investment in current Americans in return for taking in fewer foreigners. Bernie Sanders might have gone this route a couple of decade ago, but now such thinking is simply Racist and thus unthinkable.

Blinded by race, liberals have pretty much lost all ability to distinguish Americans from non-Americans. As Disraeli’s mouthpiece character said in one of his novels, “All is race.” Mainstream thought is increasingly just “Who? Whom?” on racial lines and not much else. The phrase “dumbing down” comes to mind.

 

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  1. it is not race that is all…it is propaganda that is all….reams and reams of propaganda shoved into young, malleable minds made race the top dog.

    One big reason for the Trump movement is that many of his supporters now perceive the presence of race-based propaganda and can now reject it. They see what has happened.

    “All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.”
    -Galileo Galilei

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  2. Their success won’t pose a threat to working class-whites; it’s their failure that would hurt society

    All but the elites in the target society for mass immigration lose out either way.

    If immigrants fail, they compete for public resources aimed at helping the poorest in society and if immigrants succeed they undercut indigenous workers, drive wages down and push indigenous poor and middle classes down the scale. And either way they promote potentially disastrous cultural and racial division in the target society.

    Has there ever been a more brutally regressive policy than mass immigration, or a greater betrayal than the adoption of policies favouring mass immigration for ideological reasons by the supposed representatives of the labouring and lower social class elements of western societies? I doubt it. Not only do you push the less competitive members of your society out of work, you also import people to sit above them in the social hierarchy. A case of spitting on them as well as kicking them while they are down.

    But hey, I’m sure the leftists genuinely believe that in the end the societal benefits in growth and competitiveness from importing cheaper workers to replace the weakest ones in their societies will “trickle down” to the latter, just as with tax cuts for the wealthy. And in the meantime they have all that cultural diversity to watch other people with money enjoying.

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  3. it is not race that is all…it is propaganda that is all….reams and reams of propaganda shoved into young, malleable minds made race the top dog.

    Yeah, but isn’t the propaganda in service to race?

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  4. Browstein’s piece is strikingly dishonest.

    Trump isn’t going to end affirmative action and he hasn’t even suggested this. He’s the guy who fired 4-5 whites before the grossly incompetent Omarosa on the Apprentice (then invited Omarosa back to the show twice).

    Its almost as if Brownstein is hoping to incite a race war.

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  5. Congratulations!

    For decades the left has attacked the right for the concept of “trickle-down economics”, which is of course the idea that massive tax cuts for the highest income earners would somehow enrich the white middle class.

    You, Randal, have succinctly defined the left-wing canard of “trickle-up economics”, which is the idea that importing massive amounts of cheap labor from other countries will somehow enrich the white middle class.

    Now we can define the debate in terms of two absurd ideas: trickle-down economics versus trickle-up economics.

    Well done!

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  6. With regard to this post and the previous one: I used to think that Hillary Clinton, in spite of what she might say on the campaign trail, was far too practical and power hungry a creature to be driven by ideological fantasies, and that if the unthinkable happened and she were actually elected president, she would, like her husband Bill, actually govern as a pragmatic moderate. To that end, I supported Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos in 2008. It was obvious that Barack Obama was an Alinskyite Trojan horse who would seriously damage the country; it was not so obvious (at the time) that Hillary Clinton was equally as dangerous. Of course, Benghazi and the email scandal cured me of these misperceptions. For the same reasons as outlined above, for same reasons I hoped and prayed for Hillary to beat Obama for the Democratic party nomination, I currently hope and pray for Bernie Sanders to defeat Hillary.

    But what if Hillary had struck a populist tone to begin with? Was she not ideally positioned to be something like a female version of Trump? Would not the prospects of electoral success and sound political instincts alone have prompted her to move in that direction? If you could have combined Trump’s nationalistic populism with Hillary’s claim to the DNC machine’s support, her coronation would have been virtually assured. Why does she stick with losing propositions?

    I can only conclude that she must have no political instincts. She is completely out of touch with the people and the times, and too beholden to the RIC, to make a go of it any other way. She has tragically lashed herself to the mast of a sinking ship, spouting in vain her cackling laughter while wrapped in a suffragette sash, as the whole thing goes gurgling beneath the waves.

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  7. Is there ever any limit to the wonderfulness that an immigrant brings to the US?

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  8. The state’s official higher education strategic plan last year similarly warned that without substantial minority post-secondary gains, the result “will be a poorer and significantly less competitive state.”

    Which begs the question: What’s the problem? What’s holding back these “communities of color”? Oh, right, it’s the white racism, of course. So the sooner we get the number of white people down, the sooner we’ll get the GDP or whatever high enough to make life just peachy for the remaining whites and their grandchildren. Got it.

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    Is this confusing the American population with the non-American just sheer fogginess of thinking or is it a deliberate shell-game being played upon the audience? I tend towards the latter since it fits in so well with these types of people constantly exploiting race, weaponizing race to use against their targets. Obama has been president for two terms now; so why hasn’t the hope and change president lifted all these minorities out of their lower income-by comparison- status? Why has he been such a failure? We’re not supposed to mention how the black population under a black president has sunk further downwards except for the generous racial patronage system that benefits just a certain number of them. More people are on Food Stamps than ever before. One more welfare program isn’t going to change anything. People like this Brownstein are essentially dishonest propagandists, just another hypocrite in real life.

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  10. In my opinion, anyone clued into Trump knows he isn’t what he appears to be.

    However:

    1) Trump has unleashed the forces of American nationalism. Millions of Americans now know they’re not alone, but they are part of a massive grassroots nationalist movement.

    2) Trump has mercilessly bludgeoned the GOP establishment in public, and if all goes according to Hoyle, he will bring the GOP to its knees and open the door to a new American nationalist party.

    3) Trump’s supporters have signaled to the elite/Deep State/globalists that massive numbers of Americans are aware, and they are not happy with the agenda.

    So even if Trump is a huckster as some have said, the Pandora’s Box he has opened is well worth it.

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  11. The truth is that more and more low-skill and even moderate skill jobs are going to be automated.

    Why do we need more low-end workers when most of the jobs they fill will be done by machines?

    Basically, we will already have a large enough problem getting work for dummies. Why do we need more???

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  12. Trump understands that white guy competence is needed in the day-to-day operations of his businesses, but that blacks behaving badly is a great ratings grabber for his “learn how to be an MBA”teevee show. Omarosa got the fame she was seeking. Win-win-win all around, except for the expendable white dudes who were ultimately not as good as the guy who won that season.

    Trump, at a fundamental level, gets AA is probably unfair, but that it’s a/not the hill he’s going to die on and b/is far down the voter’s priority list. Build wall. Build wall. Build wall.

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  13. The underlying theme connecting much of Donald Trump’s message is that demographic, economic, and cultural change is erasing the America that his supporters remember and revere.

    Is that not true? Is the America that many of us remember and revere not being erased? On the other side, what was wrong with the old America which so many revere that it needs to be erased? Why are those in power today aiming so hard to erase it? Those are questions that should be asked.

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  14. The theory that many liberals had was that if we just elected a black President all the republicans and other conservatives would realize that blacks were just as good (smart, virtuous etc.) as white people.

    A major flaw in this scheme has been that we didn’t elect a black man. We elected a mulatto.

    A mulatto teaches a very different lesson. First of all if the man is stupid his black heritage will be blamed – defeating the whole exercise. But if he turns out to be intelligent his brains will be attributed to his white fraction. So a mulatto will never be as transformational as the liberals had hoped. Obama being a part East African doesn’t even look like typical African Americans who are predominantly West Africans.

    Obama also isn’t very dark. For almost a century there has been this argument that negroes are only hated and oppressed because of their skin shade. But Obama who really is of part African descent is lighter skinned that Governor Bobby Jindal who has no African heritage. Again Obama fails as an example for liberal race ideology.

    By this time after almost two whole terms we the American electorate are supposed to have been transformed. We are supposed to now reject all our previos ideas of race because of Obama’s Presidency.

    Going to the moon did something transformational. After we landed men on the moon it became a common remark about some difficult task to say ‘ We can certainly do that if we want to. After all we went to the moon.’ Of course the last several decades in which we have done less and less in space has dampened that kind of technological optimism. But the liberals really expected that Obama’s Presidency would by this time have simply stamped out the racism they attributed to lack of acquaintance with blacks.

    But of course the opposite has taken place. Whites now are less likely to trust blacks in high office after they have seen how Eric Holder distorted the legal system to favor black rioting.

    In the meantime on the ground far away from the media and government, race relations have not improved one bit. Black kids still drop out before they finish high school. Black kids still need substantial favoritism if they are going to get into and out of college. Blacks now have an average family income exactly half of that of East Asians in America. Blacks continue to commit crimes at five to ten times the rate of whites or Asians. And blacks have been unemployed at double white rates.

    In other words Obama’s stay in office has done absolutely nothing meaningful for American blacks. Did I miss anything?

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  15. Whether you cheer the trends or decry them, the inescapable reality is that kids of color represent a growing share of the nation’s future students, workers, and taxpayers.

    It is not a trend. It is a deliberate policy decision. This so called trend would never have happened if we had our own Japanese or Israeli-style leadership.

    It always irks me when the same people who believe man can control the climate tell us that we cannot control the flow of people. Let’s use the government to ensure the polar ice caps don’t melt and cause a rising tide of sea water, but the government is completely useless in stopping the rising tide of immigrants flooding the border.

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  16. This sounds so reasonable.

    Help Americans, of all persuasions become educated and employed. Why is that so controversial? If our leaders had been doing this Trump would not be a thorn in their side.

    I guess if you think that saying All Lives Matter is racist, helping white, Asian, black and Hispanic Americans before brining in fresh blood is, too.

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  17. That’s Trickle up Poverty.

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  18. this writer has it so wrong…African-Americans , the only minority which really matters, are more opposed to immigration than whites. Blacks see they are being demographically hurt by the huge numbers of immigrants who have come to America over the last 30 years. They have seen their hoods taken over by hispanics and Asians. They resent the success immigrants have achieved.

    Trump is the only candidate who has spoken to this issue, stating how immigration policy has hurt Blacks and his desire to reduce H1b visas and to help Blacks. Trump needs to address this issue when he runs against Hillary…..immigration is an important issue for Blacks and he will get many of them to vote Trump if he continues to highlight the harmful effects of massive immigration to the African-American community. They will listen. As will many Hispanics who are not Mexican as they resent being compared to illegal Mexicans.

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  19. I completely agree. I have to say that I’m not a Trump fan at all and largely think he’s an embarrassment. However, he brought globalization to the forefront of the political discussion so I’m thankful for that.

    Re Bernie Sanders, he simply can’t rebel against liberal orthodoxy on immigration and race and therefore, he’s unable to truly help the middle class.

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  20. Here’s a thought:

    If a bunch of people show up to my back yard and join my guests at my cookout, I will probably kick them the hell out.

    If they demand to be fed, see #1.

    If they get threatening, guess what happens to them?

    If they start tearing up my lawn or otherwise harm me economically, see #1.

    If some of them have genuine problems of some sort, NOT MY PROBLEM! See #1.

    If my neighbor has a big heart, and wants to provide some help, fine, ON HIS PROPERTY, and if any of his generosity spills over onto my property it’s a TRESPASS, and see #1 (plus the neighbor is in trouble.)

    If, once ejected, they come back again and again, who thinks I’m going to stay nice about it? See what happens if they become threatening….

    I really don’t care if someone in Central America has problems. Showing up and crashing my cookout is not acceptable. Not now, not ever. Not if I’m a million times wealthier, or more “privileged.” I’m not here to provide succor to the world.
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    From a triumphalist argument to a defeatist argument, from a ‘saving’ social security argument to a ‘you can’t judge human beings by money’ argument, whatever it is the immigrationists seem to have an inexhaustible supply of ready made pat answers to everything. After years of studying the whole issue, my confirmed opinion is that one simply cannot win trying to argue rationally with an immigrationist. Their fanaticism is only surpassed by their dishonesty. They will argue that white is black – literally.

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  22. It’s an interesting way of framing the gambit of the Democratic Party. It’s either, look at the huge benefits of diversity of the influx of browns ever succeed (it hasn’t yet) or look at how racist whites are we need to tax them and give jobs to constituent minorities.

    It’s also interesting how they phrase it as not a zero sum game. To an extent this is very true unless the pie for low-IQ/low-skill jobs is expected to decline or shrink. Optimally everyone would adjust and get new skills but the friction to doing so is great. Especially if you have children or are stupid. Increasing the population at the left end of the intelligence distribution may be a boon to some at the right end, but the vast majority will have to pay more taxes and lose more university spots to people undeserving. India’s endless ethnic/class government programs are emblematic of our future.

    Similarly, the previous majority will also see policies concocted that will not be for them. Perhaps the new majority will elect to give billions in foreign aid to building Central American and South American infrastructure projects. Maybe they will increase remmittances to their families at no tax cost. The possibilities are endless.

    I cannot stress how horrible this development is for our republic. This is the greatest issue of the election.

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  23. Trickle down economics isn’t economics at all. It’s a bumper sticker slogan advocated by not one economist.

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  24. Let’s flip one of Brownstein’s sentences about:

    “In fact, as Texas demonstrates, equipping more American White families of European ancestry to reach the middle-class and upper-class is neither a threat to America’s Blacks and Hispanics, nor primarily a moral obligation for them. It’s become a matter of Black and Hispanic self-interest.”

    How would that version play with Mr. Brownstein’s readers? Is it even possible to publicly say a stronger White America is a stronger America? If not, why not? Isn’t it a fair statement that White Americans created the America that many Hispanics wish to settle in and from which few American Blacks wish to leave?

    Thanks to all the commenters above.

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    the only minority which really matters, are more opposed to immigration than whites

    Do you have numbers for this?

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  26. Re Bernie Sanders, he simply can’t rebel against liberal orthodoxy on immigration and race and therefore, he’s unable to truly help the middle class.

    Any registered Democrats in future caucus states reading this might consider bringing up at the caucus that Hillary intends to darken the country as much as possible, and no state can have a dispensation– including Bernie’s.

    Or on pre-primary talk shows (that Dems listen to), ask of both feel-the-Bern and feel-the-Hill people if it is defensible for Bernie’s state to remain so white, and what they intend to do, or not do, to change this.

    Vermont is the new Arkansas!

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  27. Trump has 67% unfavorable nationally. Because he commands a majority of primary voters (a subset of republican voters) does NOT mean he can win the general election. And even if he did, he is NO conservative, NO reliable immigration patriot. He’s a opportunistic buffoon.

    Immigration Patriots who support Trump are aiming for a rhetorically satisfying loss and not an actual win. Was his Mexican wall speech great? yes. Was it great to see someone blow off the Twitter hysterics? yes. Have the Establishment candidates who were elected proven to be massive dissappointments? yes. Can Trump either win, or even be trusted if he did? NOPE.

    Actually, at this point, Trump has reached his maximum utility. He moved the Overton Window. He made it crystal clear to the establishment that, whatever their desire to Hispander to hope for general election wins, they risk total warfare from their own base if they do so. BUT, that is ALL he is good for. Further support is pyrrhic at best

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  28. So many chickens have been coming home to roost over the last year or so that it’s hard to keep up. Trump, Soros, Obama, Putin and Merkel in their own ways have accelerated this wave of change and uncertainty coming down on us. It’s here now and “our elites” can’t handle it. They can’t handle it mainly because they’re neither ours nor are they elite. Everyone is noticing at the same time how wide and deep the rot is in our governing managerial classes. The GOP Establishment is just a part of the story.

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb goes further:

    What we are seeing worldwide, from India to the UK to the US, is the rebellion against the inner circle of no-skin-in-the-game policymaking “clerks” and journalists-insiders, that class of paternalistic semi-intellectual experts with some Ivy league, Oxford-Cambridge, or similar label-driven education who are telling the rest of us 1) what to do, 2) what to eat, 3) how to speak, 4) how to think… and 5) who to vote for.

    With psychology papers replicating less than 40%, dietary advice reversing after 30y of fatphobia, macroeconomic analysis working worse than astrology, microeconomic papers wrong 40% of the time, the appointment of Bernanke who was less than clueless of the risks, and pharmaceutical trials replicating only 1/5th of the time, people are perfectly entitled to rely on their own ancestral instinct and listen to their grandmothers with a better track record than these policymaking goons.

    Indeed one can see that these academico-bureaucrats wanting to run our lives aren’t even rigorous, whether in medical statistics or policymaking. I have shown that most of what Cass-Sunstein-Richard Thaler types call “rational” or “irrational” comes from misunderstanding of probability theory.

    https://www.facebook.com/nntaleb/posts/10153658794008375

    The degenerated technocracy running the West can’t even fall back on appeals to nation, tribe, clan or patriarchy because they’ve spent generations spitting on all that. When their claim to mastery of scientific management technique falls apart they’ve got nothing left but to try and beat us over the head with fear and shaming. That’s where we are right now.

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  29. India’s endless ethnic/class government programs are emblematic of our future.

    Wikipedia shows India to have 23 official languages, albeit only two at the so-called “national” level.

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  30. I’ve always gotten pushback from people across the political, ideological, racial, and ethnic spectrums — excepting blacks — for the simple assertion that blacks — as in the descendants of American slaves — are unique in American life.

    There is no way around including the question of black progress in an assessment of the American Project.

    One of the most enduring ways that the descendants of American slaves are unique is in the hijacking of their Slavery Story. Sailer and many commenters are incisive — if politically incorrect — in noticing that Jews, usually implicitly, at other times more overtly, ask Is it good for the Jews? After a half-century of mass immigration, every other multi-cultural contingent has joined that party.

    Only for blacks is the question Is it good for us? verboten. The irony is that given our history, Is it good for the blacks? is the only such question we are obligated to ask in any relevant context.

    Is continued mass immigration good for blacks? Barbara Jordan certainly didn’t think so 20 years ago. Is it good for blacks that they no longer own their Slavery Story? Below we see what has been lost by blacks in the transfer:

    [F]ram[ing] the goal of increasing opportunity for communities of color primarily as an imperative of social fairness [is misguided].

    In case you didn’t catch on the first time:

    [Black Progress, when subsumed into black and Hispanic progress, is no longer] primarily a moral obligation.

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  31. To one race, yes.

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  32. Brilliant!

    Vermont’s high percentage of whites is prima facie evidence of white privilege and systemic racism. What will Bernie do to correct this historical injustice?

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  33. How many do we have?

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  34. This Brownstein thumbsucker isn’t “full retard.” Just mostly retarded. Putting the cursor near the middle of the essay for an example:

    … if college-completion rates don’t rise for African Americans and Hispanics, the share of all adults with a college degree will start shrinking by 2020. Such a decline… would ultimately threaten the financially strained and culturally aggrieved white voters cheering Trump’s insular message. If the workforce regresses in skills as it diversifies, the resulting decline in competitiveness and growth would hurt not only minorities but also the shrinking white majority.

    So in the world of wet streets cause rain, fewer college degrees means lower productivity. Between them, Corinthian Colleges and Trump University have a solution for that!

    Brownstein makes sure to remind his audience (as if Atlantic subscribers need a refresher) that Trump supporters are culturally aggrieved and insular, as well as financially strained. (It’s their own damned fault, if you ask me.) Unless the heroic HillaryGOPeBernieObama forces can get Corinthian and the rest of the Education-Industrial Complex to massively increase production quotas for those B.A. degrees, those shrinking whites are going to get hurt.

    Thank goodness that the Brownstein assembly line shows no signs of slowing down. Without his shiny ideas on the market, how would we know what to think?

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  35. “There is no way around including the question of black progress in an assessment of the American Project.”

    Assessing black progress in the American project is exceedingly difficult because they differ genetically in so many important respects. If it were simply a matter of intelligence or behavior alone the task would be simpler. But such is not the case.

    However, comparing black progress in the US to that in Liberia is instructive and revealing. Clearly, blacks do better under this system, in this society than they do in Liberia despite it having similar government. Likewise, blacks do substantially better in the United States than they do most anywhere on the globe. And this is especially true in societies that Africans themselves built.

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  36. He provoked the GOP establishment and the neocons into pulling off their masks to reveal their lizard faces, a sight I don’t believe they can mesmerize ordinary Americans into forgetting.

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  37. And????? For whom do we vote?

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  38. I agree with you, dear Yak-15.
    By the way, does your handle means
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-15 ?

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  39. This (Pat Boyle, comment #14) is an interesting argument. I never really expected much of Obama’s administration because of this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilo_Pe%C3%A7anha

    The United States is unique in many respects, but one of them is developing a race-based caste system -these are not uncommon at all- with no provision at all for mixed race people. This leads to all sorts of strange twists with American racial politics.

    Philip Greenspun made the point that putting incompetent and corrupt members of minority groups in powerful position increases racism, because other people just assume that the incompetence and corruption is caused by being a member of the minority group. The first wave of Black mayors in this country did no favors towards race relations or the argument of putting Blacks in other powerful positions. However, I now take the view that white people have been too harsh on black mayors, including disasters such as Coleman Young and Marion Barry. The fact is that most white mayors historically have been pretty corrupt and often incompetent as well. Deindustrialized Detroit, by the Canadian border, is “sad”, as Trump would say, as is deindustrialized Buffalo, by the Canadian border (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Buffalo,_New_York, note the damage was done before 2006). Toronto elected a crack-smoking white buffoon to be mayor. There are tons of clueless and often sleazy white supervisors in the workplace. Even Obama arguably was an improvement over his two predecessors.

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  40. How many [official languages] do we have?

    Federally, none. Which is the ideal number.

    A number of states have recently enacted them, starting with Nebraska in 1920 (obviously an anti-German thing), and the next Massachusetts (WTF?) in 1967. Louisiana and Hawaii– maybe New Mexico, too– entered the Union with official English, at the request– indeed, demand– of Congress. (For similar reasons, Utah is the only state with a constitutional provision against polygamy.)

    But legislating an “official language” is essentially admitting, “Houston, we have a problem…”

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  41. I found out the other day, maybe from this site, that Obama’s father was half-Arab. If this is true, Obama’s African ancestry is much less than 50%, maybe as low a 25%. There is also the issue that African-Americans tend to be descended from Bantu from West Africa, where the slaves came from, and Obama’s African ancestors are East African Nilotic.

    There wouldn’t be that much difference if Obama was born in Hawaii of mixed Japanese-Anglo ancestry, but really identified with American black culture, moved to the South Side of Chicago, married a dark skinned American black woman, and joined the same ridiculous church. His background would be equally exotic and you would get the same identification in terms of American racial politics. The main difference of course is that he would look considerably different.

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  42. gaping opportunity gaps

    There’s never an editor around when you need one.

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  43. “Blinded by race, liberals have pretty much lost all ability to distinguish Americans from non-Americans.”

    Quite so! It seems to me that American blacks have suffered disproportionately from unlimited immigration. Anyone who has travelled to one of our major cities will have noticed that most of the people he sees doing service jobs, such as hotel chambermaids and porters, taxicab drivers, and waiters or waitresses, are now immigrants from Latin America or the Middle East. If black, he’s likely to be Somali or Ethiopian. Such work in the past was often done by American negroes.

    Where are they now? Not, I suspect, working in the blue-collar skilled trades, doing white-collar clerical jobs, or in managerial positions. Rather, they are on the dole. Black unemployment has been higher during most of the Obama years than it was under Bush, and is still more than double the rate for whites.

    Blacks would be among the first to benefit from the curtailment of immigration and the deportation of illegal immigrants.

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  44. There wouldn’t be that much difference if Obama was born in Hawaii of mixed Japanese-Anglo ancestry, but really identified with American black culture, moved to the South Side of Chicago, married a dark skinned American black woman, and joined the same ridiculous church.

    I was shocked to learn recently that Lucky Luck, who I remember as being hyper-Hawaiian on his kids’ TV show 50 years ago, was actually a white guy born (sources disagree) either in St Louis or Waco.

    Now this is going native:

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  45. Toronto elected a crack-smoking white buffoon to be mayor.

    I remember checking out World Star Hip Hop back when both Mayor Rob Ford and President Putin were making waves at the same time. Rob Ford had the World Star demographic absolutely enthralled while Putin left them cold. Putin himself captured the imagination of millions of White guys, myself included. Why do I bring this up now? Because Trump manages to hit that sweet spot between Rob Ford’s full-tilt vibrancy and Vladimir Putin’s dramatic competence. If he manages to stay in that zone he could ride it all the way to the White House.

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  46. The quote you pulled is the same one that caught me–UniParty elites threatening us to bend to their will, the stick being more Third World failures in our (not their) midst. “Do what we say, or we’ll keep importing sociopaths and parasites–only it will be YOUR fault when they don’t turn into accountants, dentists, and doctors!”

    Well, you’re gonna do that anyway, with predictable results, so let me the eff off this Jewish Mother guilt train now, Ron Brownstein of Los Angeles.

    Who according to Google Cache will come speak at your gig for $17,000:

    https://speakerpedia.com/speakers/ronald-brownstein

    And whose ex has entirely excised him from her Wikipedia entry, which is…interesting:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Easton

    http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/the-new-mixed-jewish-establishment/

    Thing is, Randal–it’s an error to try to apply reason to arguments based on emotion. This is true no less in politics than in a marriage.

    At this point in our republic, a lot of what passes for social commentary or policy wonkery is based on emotionalism, histrionics, and outright manipulation through hysteria (and recall the root of that word).

    There is no rational reason for mass immigration. It is based on the desire to undercut white males’ wages, position, and genetics, and to make this republic a global, rather than national, entity.

    It is, and has been for a century, ethno-genetic war–conducted in the realm of politics and economic policy…by the Ron Brownsteins of the world, and people who pay him big bucks to come and chatter in their echo chambers.

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  47. With apologies to our host, I think a Reverse Sailer Strategy is in order.

    Like Chris Rock at the Oscars, Trump should drive a wedge between blacks and all other “people of color.” How maddening must it be for blacks now to be an “and” next to half a dozen other racial grievance groups, recent arrivals all, none of whom can claim a deep history in this nation as blacks can? An Ixil day laborer or some Brahmin Indian now has a right to cut in front of blacks in the racial justice line? That can’t sit right with most blacks. Trump is for Americans, and this should very much mean that he is for black Americans against the pretenders.

    America has existed for over two centuries with white/black tensions. It’s something we can exist with (and can hopefully solve some day). What America cannot continue to exist with are dozens of racial tensions. That’s the road to Balkanization, as one already sees in certain areas of Southern California and Texas. Trump needs to capitalize on this fact, and to make it explicit that reclaiming the American past includes the old, stable white/black dichotomy.

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  48. This article posits some sort of connection between completing college and the possession of marketable skills? Is there any such connection?

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  49. No, Clinton was not ideally positioned to be a female Trump. She is the insider of all insiders (in this race, at least), as evidenced by your reference to her support from the DNC machine.

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  50. But what if Hillary had struck a populist tone to begin with?

    But she has struck a populist tone. It’s just not for the native US population.

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  51. Every racial and ethnic group do better than in their countries of origin. Indeed, it’s circular logic in that those who remain are self-selected. Your “globalist” test is thus rigged.

    Nor is defining what constitutes black progress difficult, let alone exceedingly so. Quite simply, it is a objective lessening of their uniqueness in American life, in both degree and kind.

    This column, , illustrates that the liberal intelligentsia/mainstream consensus has utterly abandoned the part of “Who We Are (and always were),” in the form of the moral obligation to the cause of black progress. Permanent mass immigration is more important, and it isn’t as if blacks haven’t been expected to take one for the team before.

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  52. > Trump has 67% unfavorable nationally.

    67% what unfavorable, “nationally” meaning what, measured by whom, in what context, at what point in time, with what instruments and margins of error in reporting and analysis?

    When tossing around statistics, footnotes are a good idea.

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  53. it’s untrue.

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  54. The economic reason used by our side is weak.

    Not that we are wrong on economic issues but suppose our enemies were right and all this massive immigration was great for the economy.

    So, should we welcome more people?

    The fact is most immigrants are NON-WHITE, and their cultures are different.
    This is really about defense of identity and culture.

    So, regardless of whether immigrants are good or bad for the economy, the fact is there are too many of them.

    It’s like imperialists did wonders for the economy around the world. There was economic growth wherever they went. But the natives lost power and sovereignty, and THAT is why they drove out the imperialists.

    Mass immigration of a different race/people is Dissolutionism of the native people.

    The role of patriots is to oppose the dissolutionists.

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  55. 99% of the time the crowd would viciously denounce the little child as particularly stupid and unworthy of his job as a little child.

    Like Richard Nixon was universally loved in 1972…

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  56. He could only be a Cruz-bot, spreading FUD to rally Trump supporters around his Cuban-Canadian-American-Goldman-Sachs-yet-anti-globalist master.

    Wait, what?

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  57. But what if Hillary had struck a populist tone to begin with? Was she not ideally positioned to be something like a female version of Trump?

    If she had “struck a populist tone” she would have forfeited all the serious donations from the oligarchs funding the DNC and lost out on the lucrative speaking fees that have made her and Bill fabulously wealthy.

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  58. Obviously, the strategic anti-immigrationist, having made his point and having moved the Overton Window, now needs to vote for Marco Rubio. It’s the only sane choice.

    (Do I need to add ‘@@’ or maybe a ‘/ sarcasm’ faux hashtag, or is the intent clear?)

    ((Yes, this is a repeat comment, but so is the comment from Joe Regular.))

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  59. That is the reference.

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  60. Whether he wins or loses, does great good or great evil, I will always remember the night of the South Carolina debate.When he blamed George W. Bush for 9/11 and the subsequent fiasco that was the Iraq/Afghanistan Wars, I experienced the greatest joy I have ever felt due to politics.

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  61. Trump needs to sound like a broken record and keep repeating how more immigration is going to hurt the people at the bottom more than anyone else. I’m pretty sure even those at the bottom will be able to understand what they see with their own eyes.

    That’s how you get support from the more ambitious ones; the welfare clowns will continue to support the dems because they will ‘gimmedat’.

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  62. This is how Trump wins the #BernieBros in November. If he comes out fighting for working and middle class wages against Wall Street Hillary, it’s a slam dunk.

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  65. “I found out the other day, maybe from this site, that Obama’s father was half-Arab.”

    This is the kind of stuff that conservatives make up because they can’t admit that they don’t want a half-black president. Arabs are more acceptable to dislike.

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  67. WHY TRUMP HAS IT BACKWARDS ON PLUMBOUS DIRIGIBLES
    Ronald Brownstein, Mar. 1916

    Attaining victory in this Great War and the next will depend almost entirely on which side is able to drop the most explosives deep inside enemy territory, all experts agree. Donald Trump says that in order to do this we must invest in light, fast-moving air vehicles made of aluminium. But it doesn’t take much lucubration on the matter to understand this vision is misguided, inverted even.

    The winner of the next Great War will be the power that harnesses the might of large, heavily armed air juggernauts encased in thick, heavy metal sheafings of armor such as common plumbum. While no such airships have ever been flow, and many scientists think they may not even be physically possible to create, that only means we must invest more in mastering their art, since heavily armed air juggernauts encased in thick, heavy metal sheafings are the key to winning the next Great War, and light, fast-moving air vehicles made of aluminium are NOT… WHO… -oh God, I’m triggering here- WE… AR….

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  68. Trump is basically Caesar, taking the risks of leading the populist revolt against the elite. Hopefully for him he merely loses an election instead of being killed by the elite.

    I guess the problem post-Trump is that his Augustus has yet to be identified.

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  69. I see the anti-Trump forces on Twitter continuously cute this statistic. For sure Trump needs to work on softening the edges in the general but his unfavorables have always been higher than support.

    You can hate someone and still pull the lever for them come Election Day.

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  70. Ford is an interesting case. He maintained a high level of support because he managed the city well and purged many of the leftist activists, and their programs, from government. That seemed to buy him leeway to make an ass of himself. There was no perfect solution on offer, a competent mayor with decorum, it was either Ford or idiot Leftist-actvists.

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  71. I’ve long advocated even more than you suggest. The Democrats are an unwieldy coalition of groups, many of whom have conflicting agendas. Pitting blacks against Hispanics is only the largest target for action. There are lots of others ruptures which can be engineered, for instance, pit Disability Rights activists against the Right to Die activists. Let the fireworks begin.

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  72. Well the fundamental racial division in this country has always been black vs. non-black despite efforts from ideologues of all hues and creeds to make things white vs non-white. We saw it in centuries past with efforts to shove American Indians and Asians into the same underclass as blacks, and we see it today with efforts to make whites subservient to all deemed as not white (and also with “white nationalists” making political perscriptions based on obscenely ignorant conceptions of genes and ethnicity (can we say “whitewashing Hitler’s hatred of Slavs”?)). But these are not natural states of affairs. Although racial/ethnic/subethnic divisions will always exist in any conceivable permutation, relative to the degree of difference between any given groups, fundamentally the black/non-black difference will remain supreme due to the fact that any non-black person is more closely related to any other non-black than to blacks.

    Mixed race black/nonblacks complicate the situation. I’ve already spent too long typing this so maybe I’ll elaborate on this point at a later date.

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  73. Sailer had a great idea back in 2010:

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/jim-webb-the-gop-and-the-sammy-sosa-solution

    My view: The absolute key to getting immigrant ethnic elites to side with economic liberty is to take away, once and for all, the legal preferences that the government currently gives them.

    Here`s what I think the GOP needs to do to as soon as it gets back into power save economic liberty (and itself): Eliminate all government racial and ethnic designations except African American and American Indian. The government must stop counting all categories other than the two main historical victims.

    Get rid of the “Are you Hispanic?” question.

    And, just as the Census Bureau has dispensed with asking about ethnicity in general, it should dispense with asking about race. Merely ask:

    Are you African-American? In other words, are you black and are you significantly descended from slaves held in the United States of America?

    Are you on the official rolls of a federally recognized American Indian nation? If so, which one?

    Everybody else should be legally equal.

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  74. Sailer had a great idea back in 2010:

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/jim-webb-the-gop-and-the-sammy-sosa-solution

    My view: The absolute key to getting immigrant ethnic elites to side with economic liberty is to take away, once and for all, the legal preferences that the government currently gives them.

    Here`s what I think the GOP needs to do to as soon as it gets back into power save economic liberty (and itself): Eliminate all government racial and ethnic designations except African American and American Indian. The government must stop counting all categories other than the two main historical victims.

    Get rid of the “Are you Hispanic?” question.

    And, just as the Census Bureau has dispensed with asking about ethnicity in general, it should dispense with asking about race. Merely ask:

    Are you African-American? In other words, are you black and are you significantly descended from slaves held in the United States of America?

    Are you on the official rolls of a federally recognized American Indian nation? If so, which one?

    Everybody else should be legally equal.

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  75. Whom to vote for then? Ted “I love Israel more than I love my own children” Cruz? How about Marco “we don’t need no steenkeeng border” Rubio? Or John “look how genteel I can be while destroying America” Kasich?

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  76. Trump revealed the utter corruption of the political establishments in both parties and the MSM establishment. He showed that these swine are so bought and paid for by their plutocrat and Zionist paymasters that they would rather lose elections, destroy their parties, and betray their own ideals and the people and republic than disobey their overlords. He is the first forcefully and publicly to acknowledge the present harm and future dangers of open borders policies and to propose solutions to these issues. He’s one of very few to acknowledge the damage that unrestricted free trade has done to native-born Americans and to suggest that NAFTA and other such trade agreements need to be entirely renegotiated with the interests of our native-born middle and working classes in mind. He is among the first to suggest that US bellicosity has wrought havoc around the world, worked against basic US interests, and cost tens of trillions of dollars that could have been either saved or put to any number of better uses. God bless Donald Trump! He is at this point literally our only hope.

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  77. This article enrages me on so many levels.

    a) the demographic changes are entirely man-made and nefarious in intent

    b) Trump hasn’t said anything bad about blacks or US citizens “of color.”

    c) Politics in a multiethnic society is a zero sum game and the Democrats know that. That’s why they endlessly pander to the most blatantly anti-white impulses of blacks instead of trying to say things that everyone will be happy with. See: Bernie hating on white people the other night in order to answer a race-hustling question. See: both Hillary and Bernie pandering to BLM and pushing the narrative that Trayvon and Mike Brown were victims of anything besides their low IQs, high time preference and aggressive narcissism. To win black votes Dems (and cuckservatives) must constantly throw whites under the bus. One need not be a genius to notice this.

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  78. This article enrages me on so many levels.

    a) the demographic changes are entirely man-made and nefarious in intent

    b) Trump hasn’t said anything bad about blacks or US citizens “of color.”

    c) Politics in a multiethnic society is a zero sum game and the Democrats know that. That’s why they endlessly pander to the most blatantly anti-white impulses of blacks instead of trying to say things that everyone will be happy with. See: Bernie hating on white people the other night in order to answer a race-hustling question. See: both Hillary and Bernie pandering to BLM and pushing the narrative that Trayvon and Mike Brown were victims of anything besides their low IQs, high time preference and aggressive narcissism. To win black votes Dems (and cuckservatives) must constantly throw whites under the bus. One need not be a genius to notice this.

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  79. Trump has 67% unfavorable nationally…

    Was Tricky Dick’s any better in 1972?

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  80. You can hate someone and still pull the lever for them come Election Day.

    Case in point.

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  81. ” more investment in current Americans in return for taking in fewer foreigners.”

    1) “current Americans” meaning, LEGAL CITIZENS.
    2) Define “more investment”.

    Throwing more $$$ at them hasn’t helped in the last 70-80 years.

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  82. Yes, Rob Ford was similar to Trump in that his media critics and political opponents were so priggish and censorious that people instinctively took his side against them. Actually “progressives” now days take an almost indefensible position: all the rules are out the windows for themselves and people they like but everyone else has to maintain strict codes of decorum and propriety.

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  83. What are the odds that a bunch of strangers with whom I share a lot of common cultural ties, who never knew or cared about me, will want to pay much higher taxes so I can continue to receive SS and Medicare in 15 years? What are the odds that a bunch of strangers who speak a different language, with a different and competing set of responsibilities will want to pay much higher taxes so I can continue to receive Social Security and Medicare in 15 years?

    I don’t care how much they are earning, or if they can read, it requires more faith than I have to expect what are essentially cultural foreigners to work to support me. Multi-culti is not going to work out very well for a YUUGGE group of old white people.

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  84. It is the “more useless mouths to feed” theory of economics: more mouths = higher GDP, higher GDP is supposed to mean something good even if GDP per capita goes down.

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  85. Where is/was the black leadership during this whole period. Was the hatred of whitey so intense that they could not ally themselves with the large number of people opposed to immigration?

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  86. Don’t know what the hell that was…but cripes we’re laughing Chez Olorin.

    Kinda the love child of Robert Plant and T. Herman Zwiebel.

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  87. I’ve given a lot of thought to this question over the years. There is no doubt about it, they’ve been too generous. allowing one group after another a franchise at a bargain price.

    Their brand of Christianity has played a role — granting forgiveness quick and cheap.

    Jesse Jackson has been the most consequential and pernicious influence. He horse-traded away their unique and powerful heritage for an ever more junior and ignored place at the Rainbow Coalition table.

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  88. anyone who knows Blacks well, know they despise immigrants and resent the success many immigrants have achieved here in America. Unfortunately the leftists media hides this from the public, for the same reason few people realize the vast majority of blacks oppose Gay marriage and many other social policies of the left. The so called “Black” leaders in America are just like our White leaders, mostly looking out for themselves at the expense of their communities.

    Anti-immigration activists demanded a stop to immigration reform during the D.C. March for Jobs Monday, saying the bill could take jobs away from black people. The rally was organized by the Black American Leadership Alliance to protest the comprehensive immigration reform bill that recently passed in the Senate.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/07/15/african-american-group-immigration-reform-would-take-jobs-from-black-people

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  89. http://www.pewresearch.org/2006/04/25/attitudes-toward-immigration-in-black-and-white/

    the report noted that 54% of Blacks and 55% of whites believed immigrants were a burden to the community. 47% of Blacks felt illegal immigrants should be deported.

    The buzz on the June 23 march against illegal immigration in Los Angeles is that it’s a historic event. It’s the first time Los Angeles, or any city, for that matter, has issued an official permit for blacks to march against illegal immigration.

    http://imdiversity.com/villages/hispanic/why-blacks-march-against-illegal-immigration-and-why-they-shouldnt/

    also interesting to note that when Gov. Pete Wilson pandered to anti-immigrant hysteria and rode it to a re-election victory. Wilson also got nearly 20 percent of the black vote in the 1994 election. It was double what Republicans in California typically get from blacks. Wilson almost certainly bumped up his black vote with his freewheeling assault on illegal immigration.

    today Blacks are even more opposed to immigration, as they have seen their hoods being taken over by hispanics. If Pete Wilson could get 20% of the Black vote , Trump should get above 15% of the black vote by telling them about his plan to build a wall along our Mexican boarder.

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  90. Yes, but Jesse is dining on caviar, sleeping on silk sheets with beauties that adorn the pages of the glamour magazines I see in the checkout line at the grocery store.

    Jesse is smart, and has leveraged lib/prog/left/democrat guilt/self-interest/stupidity to levels that assure his cultural IQ is in the upper tail of the 3rd-standard-deviation.

    Too bad that those whom he pretends to advise, protect and help derive no benefit from the opulent and regal life that Jesse leads. In fact, they actually lose ground from Jesse’s relentless self-interested shakedowns. But Jesse is not to blame. The lib/prog/left/democrat elite are the culprits.

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  91. b) Trump hasn’t said anything bad about blacks or US citizens “of color.”

    I’ll vote for him anyway.

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  92. The black antipathy toward immigrants is well documented by demographers, but that is ignored by the press. Their de facto policy represents another variant on the grievance hierarchy.

    To the extent that the story appears in the media, that is typically when there is public conflict between those groups. The media spin that as a rational response to the “dysfunctional” system, instead of acknowledging the facts and the people.

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    Based on those poll numbers it seems blacks are just as anti-illegal immigrant as whites not more so.

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  95. the narrative that Trayvon and Mike Brown were victims of anything besides their low IQs, high time preference and aggressive narcissism…

    …or, in Trayvon’s case, “homophobia”.

    Steve picked up on that, then dropped it just as quickly.

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  96. It was that oddity of oddities, a jet taildragger.

    Must have been tough on the pavement, even without an afterburner.

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  97. Not only don’t they desire to pay your retirement costs, they have no intention to do so either. And they will probably get away with not doing so.

    First, they tend to be really good at not paying taxes, and secondly, the generation who comes here and possibly one or two generations later will always have the option of going home if indicted. Few nations will extradite their own nationals for not paying taxes or most other nonviolent economic crimes.

    Second, on average, a great number won’t make enough money to pay the tax anyway.

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  98. That’s been my experience. Note that Trump has tons of Black preachers as well as Diamond and Silk etc. beginning his rallies. He even supports affirmative actions, which sucks but I’ll vote for him anyway. If he could pull just 20% of blacks with his anti immigration views then he has a real shot at an electoral college victory even if overwhelming votes in say, CA, lose him the popular vote. 20% of blacks gets you Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvanis

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    This is stupid you people know that there are real estate bubbles that are popping now in Singapore, China, and Hong Kong right? Where the IQ level is north of 100. And what about the real estate and asset bubble in Japan in the late 1980s? Or the long depression of the late 1800s? It is stupid to tie real estate/asset price/financial bubbles to IQ scores. And what about the 1997 Asian financial crisis, those South East Asian companies which borrowed heavily in US dollars were all led by overseas Chinese. And remember how the Jewish financier Irving Fisher predicted that stock prices had reached a permanently high plateau in the summer of 1929?

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  100. to protest the comprehensive immigration reform bill that recently passed in the Senate

    Recently as in two-and-a-half years ago?

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  101. Jesse is dining on caviar, sleeping on silk sheets with beauties that adorn the pages of the glamour magazines I see in the checkout line at the grocery store.

    Your supermarket carries Jet magazine?

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  102. I attended a rally at a Senator’s office in opposition to the Gang of Eight bill. At the rally was Jamiel Shaw’s parents and grandmother. I suggested that this whole bill would be DOA if the Congressional Black Caucus came out against it. Mr. Shaw told me he has spoken to every black organization he could and they were all worthless.

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  103. You have to first dissolve the KKKrazy Glue that holds the coalition together.

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  104. “more blacks than whites say they or a family member have lost a job, or not gotten a job, because an employer hired an immigrant worker (by 22% vs. 14%). Blacks are also more likely than whites to feel that immigrants take jobs away from American citizens (by 34%-25%)” -Pew report

    the divergence between whites and Blacks becomes more divergent, with Blacks more opposed to immigration when they live in cities which have immigrants.

    some examples from the report..
    In Chicago there is a widespread perception among Blacks that immigrant workers are damaging local job prospects. Fully 41% of African Americans say they or a family member have lost a job, or not gotten a job, because an employer hired an ILLEGAL immigrant instead. That is triple the number of Chicago-area whites (15%) who say an immigrant worker has cost them or a family member a job.

    African Americans in the Raleigh-Durham area are more supportive of restricting immigration – both legal and illegal. 57% favors cutting back on Legal immigration and 58% support deportation of illegal immigrants…..a large majority of blacks in Raleigh (84%) believe that police should be required to check the immigration status of people they encounter during routine activities such as traffic stops; two-thirds of whites (67%) agree.

    Blacks in Raleigh are concerned about the cultural impact of immigration, as well as its economic consequences. Nearly six-in-ten (58%) say the growing number of newcomers in the U.S. threatens traditional customs and values, significantly more than the percentage of white Raleigh-Durham residents saying this (43%)

    keep in mind this survey was done 10 years ago, before the great recession. It seems Blacks become more anti-immigrant when they live in areas with immigrants….ten years later we have 9 million more immigrants in American and thus we should expect more Blacks to favor restrictions on new immigration.

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  105. In a long-term study of the 8th grade class of 2004, only 13% of blacks or Hispanics, compared to 29% of whites, had obtained any post-secondary credential 11 years later | Neoreactive
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    […] Average Joe About one-third of both black and Hispanic children in Texas live in poverty, according to the Annie E. Casey Foundation’s encyclopedic Kids […]

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  106. >The underlying theme connecting much of Donald Trump’s message is that demographic, economic, and cultural change is erasing the America that his supporters remember and revere.

    I wonder if Brownstein would be drawn toward Trump’s message if Israel was the subject and was experiencing the equivalent of America’s demographic, economic, and cultural changes? Oh, wait. They already are. Witness Netanyahu.

    Why can’t these people recognize their own hypocrisy?

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  107. Welcome aboard, Joe. Two comments in two years, now a regular bloviator against the iSteve party line.

    Does Soros pay better in an election year?

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  108. Oh, yes, I get heaps and piles of filthy lucre from George Soros. Loads and loads of Judas gold.
    It is good and right that men of true heart, such as stalwart Brutusale have sniffed me out.

    Orrrr, hmmm, could it be that I’m scared of a clown huckster getting the nomination because he said the right things on immigration, and then going down in flames because he is a seriously unlikable, disreputable doofus who talks about his schlong in debate.

    BTW, I am not bloviating against the ISteve party line… jeesh, what a loyal little robot to say that. Steve actually has seriously questioned whether Trump can make it to the finish line. It appears he has also woken up, like me, from his initial infatuation to realize Oh Crap, he actually IS a clown.

    And anyone with even a touch of objectivity can see that Trump has very little chance. Reagan was able to win Reagan Democrats without making himself untouchable by nice respectable middle class married white ladies. Trump isn’t. Good luck winning the general election based ONLY on Isteve reader support.

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  109. Yeh. Its not possible that someone could both call the Schumer Rubio amnesty thing the “Treason Bill”, and yet, upon seeing Trump’s clownish and inconsistent behavior be seriously concerned that his is not reliable, and even if her were, that he cannot win based on his oafish loud mouth persona.

    No, not possible. Trump has been so consistent, for so long, and so articulate and specific, that grave concerns about his reliability could only be insincere Trolling, probably by a Hillary staffer. After all, with Trump’s sober, reasoned demeanor, who could honestly think him an opportunistic huckster rather than a principled pol?

    Also, with Trump’s high Favorability polls, with his obviously likable, respectable, nay, Presidential demeanor, nobody could honestly think that he had such a crass, thin skinned, sophomoric, loud mouth in the bar persona that he couldn’t win the general election and undecided, moderate swing voters. Clearly only an Open Borders shill could doubt the universal appeal of Trump’s common touch, and call it vulgar reality television antics that evoke as much disgust as admiration.

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  110. Good question actually. I know Nixon was despised of the media academic class, like Trump. But did Nixon, pre-Watergate, actually poll massively unfavorably? Did he say things that would obviously make him seem clownish and beyond respectable opinion, like calling women vulgar names or defending the size of his schlong? Not in private speech on the Nixon tapes, but right out loud in public?

    Tell the truth, I don’t know the answer. But I suspect that you are thinking that because Nixon became so unpopular and demonized AFTER Watergate, yet won the election by landslide BEFORE Watergate, means Trump can be despised and unpopular before the election and still win a landslide. There seems something off in that logic.

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  111. Good Question. Tho no Buckley worshipper, I think the old axiom of the most conservative electable candidate, is the best. I’m not advocating for who is most perfect, tho I in fact think Trump is very likely to disappoint many an IStever due to his proven opportunism and weather vane like history to date (plus the guy likes affirmative action, and who knows what he’d do to the SCOTUS).

    I am saying better an Israel loving Cruz who draws a hard line on immigration and can be elected than HILLARY. I am saying, even though he’s now as good as out, better a hesitant and chastised Rubio than an openly aggressively Hispandering open borders HILLARY.

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  112. They are part of the White male idiot wing of the Republican party/alt-right/religious creationist/Glenn Becksphere.

    Obama has the ability to lower their already low IQs.

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  113. In short – no. Immigrants/immigration are that rare beast, a phenomenon with literally no downsides at all.

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  114. Exactly.

    There has been a lot of noise about how the future belongs to the Democrats because of demography. As others point out, the Democratic Party is truly a coalition of “the frignes,” and the centre simply cannot hold.

    It’s coming to a boiling point here in San Francisco, as housing pressures are really *the* issue for most. Rents and prices – always high – are now ludicrous, and activists try to pin it on the “tech industry.”

    The idea is that all the tech money is forcing out long-time residents; but the implication is that all the tech money is bringing in a bunch of young guys from Illinois. Anyone with a pair of eyes can see that that’s false.

    It’s just a matter of time until the jig is up.

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  115. Yes, I’d generally agree with that idea. I don’t think all Native American tribes have an equal claim on white power; some were legitimately screwed over after treaties were signed; however, others were simply the unfortunate losers in a game of imperial expansion. That said, N.A.’s are a tiny, tiny percentage of the population and it makes sense—the optics, you know—to allow them a share of the money/power charity.

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  116. You write like a girl.

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  117. This is why social science is so worthless. A person making a prediction always has another out as to why his prediction didn’t come true. If he doesn’t have one already prepared he can always fall back on the ones gun controllers and people making excuses for economic policies use – It would have worked but we didn’t do enough of ……

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  118. The economic reason used by our side is weak.

    It is the best we got in this world of “racism” being second only to “anti-Semitism” as the worst ever crimes against humanity.

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  119. Even Pat Buchanan agrees that Trump has a better chance of winning the general election than Cruz. Cruz won’t get crossover Democrats and if the Republicans steal the nomination from Trump they won’t get Trump voters like Romney didn’t get Paul’s voters.

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  120. It does. Doesn’t yours?

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  121. Your wishful thinking is misplaced. Trump will crush Hillary in the general. Republicans will ride his coattails to maintain control of both Houses of Congress.

    The wild card is a replacement candidate if Hill gets indicted.

    But one terrorist attack and it won’t matter what the Democrats do.

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  122. Likewise, even as the predominantly white baby boom moves into retirement, Social Security and Medicare will be strained if earnings—and thus payroll tax obligations—lag for the increasingly diverse younger workforce. As I’ve written before, there is no financial security for the gray without economic opportunity for the brown.

    But there is financial security for the gray in the absence of “the brown”.

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  123. Right. A lot of noise in the ether, but no attacks since Trump made his “Ban Muslims” speech.

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  124. The Democratic Party lost a great opportunity when it ignored the findings of the Barbara Jordan Commission’s conclusions on immigration. It could have conceivably been able to lay claim to being the party that not only had the first black (pre-Obama) President in U.S. history, but the first female one at the same time. As an independent myself, I would have voted for Jordan. In the mid-nineties she not only called for a more secure border, but a 50% reduction in American citizen jobs-taking, cultural-clashing, over-populating, legal immigration as well. And we still would have had lots and lots of legal immigration!

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