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From the New York Times oped page:

Anti-Semitism Is Rising. Why Aren’t American Jews Speaking Up?
By JONATHAN WEISMAN MARCH 17, 2018

Jonathan Weisman (@jonathanweisman) is an editor in the Washington bureau of The New York Times and the author of “(((Semitism))): Being Jewish in America in the Age of Trump,” from which this essay was adapted.

Anti-Semitic hate crimes are on the rise, up 57 percent in 2017 from 2016, the largest single-year jump on record, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

Of course, as you recall, many of them were hate hoaxes perpetrated by that Jewish guy in Israel, the black leftist journalist, and who knows how many more hoaxers? But how can anybody expect New York Times editor Jonathan Weisman to remember all the way back to 2017?

I have personally seen the anti-Semitism, in online insults, threatening voice mail messages and the occasional email that makes it through my spam filter.

I think a fair amount of the agitation of elite journalists comes from their largely committing to Twitter a half decade ago. The seemingly minor differences in how Twitter worked from how email, comments, discussion groups and so forth had operated led to a huge growth in ethnic paranoia among their ranks, as the title of Weisman’s book suggests. (I’ll try to flesh this theory out more when Weisman’s book arrives.)

If not quite a crisis, it feels like a proto-crisis, something to head off, especially when the rise of anti-Semitism is combined with hate crimes against Muslims, blacks, Hispanics and immigrants. Yet American Jewish leaders — the heads of influential, established organizations like the American Jewish Committee and the Jewish Federations of North America — have been remarkably quiet, focused instead, as they have been for decades, on Israel, not the brewing storm in our own country.

But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena, to reshape our quiescent institutions and mold them in our image. And Jewish leadership must reflect its congregants, who are not sheep.

When the Anti-Defamation League, a century-old institution founded to combat anti-Semitism, released its guide to the “Alt Right and Alt Lite” last year, Ohio’s Republican state treasurer, Josh Mandel, who is Jewish, actually expressed support for two of the people on the list: Mike Cernovich and Jack Posobiec, conservative provocateurs who have found notoriety in the Trump era. …

Mr. Cernovich advocates I.Q. tests for immigrants and “no white guilt,” and is an unapologetic misogynist. …

For drawing attention to these men, the Anti-Defamation League was tarred as a partisan organization by an elected Jewish Republican. …

Institutions matter, but they do not survive on their own. At the moment, the Anti-Defamation League is an institution under concerted attack — and it is not being defended. And so far, nothing else has arisen to forcefully take a stand in the Jewish fight against bigotry. …

Truth must also be defended, which is what groups like the league and the Southern Poverty Law Center try to do as they expose hate. …

For Jews, this is personal. Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final. …

Why can’t the domestic apparatus of the American Jewish Committee reconstitute itself at the request of Jewish donors and members, and the Anti-Defamation League assert itself, like the Southern Poverty Law Center, in the arena of bigotry without fear of being charged with partisanship?

In the early 1930s, as Hitler …

iSteve commenter Anonym notes:

Help! The poor, defenceless Anti-Defamation League is being defamed! There needs to be some sort of organization, maybe a League, to defend the ADL. An ADL for the ADL. That’s a great idea.

But hey, what if the ADL for the ADL comes under attack by virulent anti-Semites? The only foolproof solution is an ADL for the ADL for the ADL.

 
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  2. >>Why can’t the domestic apparatus of the American Jewish Committee reconstitute itself at the request of Jewish donors and members, and the Anti-Defamation League assert itself, like the Southern Poverty Law Center,<<

    Oh, the SPLCC, that's a great institution to emulate.

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  3. WTF ?

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  4. A very interesting quote from the article:

    >But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena, to reshape our quiescent institutions and mold them in our image.

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    It's not like the Jews in the media have been exactly softly spoken. The volume is already at 11, and white people are becoming desensitized to it.

    Of course, it's never time to question whether all the chutzpah that created PC, took it and ran with it was a good idea. Because a genocidal push to cause whites to become a steadily dwindling minority in the world and in every white country was never going to get pushback, it was never going to be the midwife of a white identitarian movement.
    , @Anonymous
    It's so true. Jews have been quiet and polite for too long. And not only don't they have any wealth or power, what little they do have they never use to advance their own interests. They're always doing things for others, never for themselves. Alan Dershowitz used to make this argument.
    , @WowJustWow
    I enjoyed this one:

    Truth must also be defended, which is what groups like the league and the Southern Poverty Law Center try to do as they expose hate.
     
    Personally, I think it's more effective to defend truth by exposing lies, and to defend niceness by exposing hate (and to defend my power to dictate what is true by conflating the two).
    , @Hibernian
    The Pope needs to be Catholic... ...oh wait...
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  5. If they’re only 2% of the population they have to have 49 times the firepower to make up for it. Make sense?

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  6. Institutions matter, but they do not survive on their own. At the moment, the Anti-Defamation League is an institution under concerted attack — and it is not being defended. And so far, nothing else has arisen to forcefully take a stand in the Jewish fight against bigotry. …

    Help! The poor, defenceless Anti-Defamation League is being defamed! There needs to be some sort of organization, maybe a League, to defend the ADL. An ADL for the ADL. That’s a great idea.

    But hey, what if the ADL for the ADL comes under attack by virulent anti-Semites? The only foolproof solution is an ADL for the ADL for the ADL. My goyische kopf is starting to hurt… MY GOD. IT’S FULL OF STARS

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    • Replies: @Yan Shen
    At some point the derivative just becomes zero right? :)
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    The only foolproof solution is an ADL for the ADL for the ADL
     
    Yep, turtles, all the way down.
    , @Mr. Anon

    There needs to be some sort of organization, maybe a League, to defend the ADL. An ADL for the ADL. That’s a great idea.
     
    Perhaps there needs to be an Anti Noticing Anything League - ANAL
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  7. “Ohio’s Republican state treasurer, Josh Mandel, who is Jewish, actually expressed support for two of the people on the list: Mike Cernovich and Jack Posobiec, conservative provocateurs who have found notoriety in the Trump era. …”

    How . . . unusual Mandel would specify those two individuals for approval. Cernovich, who may be Jewish himself (have seen conflicting info) is quite specifically NOT alt-right, believing in civic nationalism and the melting pot, and his 2nd wife is an Iranian Muslim. Posobiec is another questionable individual to much of the alt-right, both regarding his ethnicity and perceived government connections.

    Otherwise this is, of course, more of the standard persecution paranoia porn common among Jews in America; cue (((Tyrion2))) from England to explain how Weisman is really not saying what you think he’s saying, Steve. He’s really a super patriotic nationalist American who’s writing a super-clever argument that actually advocates that which he theoretically denounces.

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    Goodness, I wonder where the ethnic paranoia comes from?

    Your comment, like half of those on this thread, is nuts.

    A Jew defends a couple of his favourite alt right personalities against another Jew's criticism and its...a Jewish plot!

    I point out that a Jew who explicitly argues for nationalism in a Western context and specifically does so to the most progressive establishment readers in all of their favourite publications may actually quite like nationalism and I'm...a Jewish plot!

    Get a grip! You're actually more crazy than the author of this article.
    , @Pericles
    For some reason, I always thought Tyrion2 was the nome de plume of Robert Reich.

    http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/08/Robert-Reich-Obama-Chip-Somodevilla-Getty-640x509.jpg
    , @Thea
    The idea that anyone needs the approval of Jews in order to be legitimate is grotesque.
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  8. “But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena,”

    Does the word chutzpah apply here?

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    yeah, I was also lost how they have not had the megaphone for years, now..forget 'assert' or even chutzpah.

    Full disclosure: Normally, I do not chime into Jewish stuff (my husband and I were raised to be good Protestants); however, being from the Nordic lands, I have always been taught that there are "good Jews and bad Jews" just like Good cop/Bad cop stuff, we heard on Law & Order. Or, on a personal level bc I have a yuge family: we (my family); have losers and parasites vs productive business executives, but it is still a big mess. However, sooner or later the idea of what you bring to survival, determines you worthiness; what can you do to protect against the avalanche? You have one life.

    , @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Is there any difference between "chutzpah" and "startling lack of self awareness"? Asking for a friend.
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  9. @rogue-one
    A very interesting quote from the article:

    >But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena, to reshape our quiescent institutions and mold them in our image.

    It’s not like the Jews in the media have been exactly softly spoken. The volume is already at 11, and white people are becoming desensitized to it.

    Of course, it’s never time to question whether all the chutzpah that created PC, took it and ran with it was a good idea. Because a genocidal push to cause whites to become a steadily dwindling minority in the world and in every white country was never going to get pushback, it was never going to be the midwife of a white identitarian movement.

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    >Of course, it’s never time to question whether all the chutzpah that created PC, took it and ran with it was a good idea. Because a genocidal push to cause whites to become a steadily dwindling minority in the world and in every white country was never going to get pushback, it was never going to be the midwife of a white identitarian movement.

    Mass migration & PC are very successful ideas from a certain point of view. White identitarian movement is the last mournful bellow of the beast before death, not some sort of nascent birth.

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  10. For Jews, this is personal. Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final. …

    I can see that everything in this statement is wrong and false but I am just paralyzed trying to respond to it for fear of sounding anti-semitic.

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    "I can see that everything in this statement is wrong and false but I am just paralyzed trying to respond to it for fear of sounding anti-semitic."

    That's precisely what (((they))) have been counting on all these years.
    , @Forbes
    Yes, it's all the fault of those "ordinary" people 80 years ago. It's funny (strange, not haha) how the stereotype about people prone to holding a grudge gets started... That may sound insensitive to tragedy, but last I checked the good guys defeated the bad guys in WW2. Wasn't that enough sacrifice?

    Problems in the present have causes in the present, inasmuch as they may seem like age-old issues. Weisman needs to learn to deal in the present, his mental health will thank him.
    , @Moses

    I am just paralyzed trying to respond to it for fear of sounding anti-semitic.
     
    Ahem, I prefer the term "counter-semitic." More accurate.
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  11. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Mr. Cernovich advocates I.Q. tests for immigrants and “no white guilt,”

    Wouldn’t that be PRO-Jewish? I mean, I’m assuming it’s the low end of the IQ distribution he wants to keep out, so wouldn’t Jews be the ones best able to take advantage of that?

    I wish these people would make up their minds about whether IQ matters or not. Because it does actually tie in with the whole “no white guilt” thing. This is kind of how things go:

    Person: “Man, Jewish people sure do have an awful lot of power in the media.”

    ADL: “Well, you have to understand. That’s just because our IQs are so much higher!”

    Person: “OK. Well then, maybe the reason white people are so much more successful than black people is because our IQs are higher than theirs? Maybe we don’t have anything to feel guilty about?”

    ADL: “You’re banned from YouTube!!!”

    Dealing with these people is just never very pleasant. I don’t know where they got the idea that serving as “trusted flaggers” on YouTube and getting people’s channels shut down is going to make people like them any more either.

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    I wish these people would make up their minds about whether IQ matters or not.
     
    You find the fact that not all Jews think the same to be disturbing?!? I thought the whole Jewish plot was that we all thought the same! I wish you'd make up your mind.

    My personal thoughts on the matter follow my father's, who occasionally said "2 Jews, 3 opinions".
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  12. If not quite a crisis, it feels like a proto-crisis, something to head off, …

    Don’t tell me. We need to increase nonwhite immigration so as to eliminate the majority status of European-Americans. That’ll ensure we nip it in the bud.

    Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final. …

    As Leon Wieseltier noted in a video Sailer put up a couple months back, Jews historically made vertical connections with the princes and rulers instead of horizontal connections with the local hoi polloi. Had they made these horizontal connections,…

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  13. @rogue-one
    A very interesting quote from the article:

    >But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena, to reshape our quiescent institutions and mold them in our image.

    It’s so true. Jews have been quiet and polite for too long. And not only don’t they have any wealth or power, what little they do have they never use to advance their own interests. They’re always doing things for others, never for themselves. Alan Dershowitz used to make this argument.

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  14. Listen! in the distance you can hear the hoof-beats of the Cossack cavalry.

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  15. I agree, first things first, the few Jews that are in the public arena are giving the impression of monolithic support for Israel and neocon foreign policy among Jews which is obviously incorrect. Hopefully a larger cross-section of Jews will voice their opinions in the public sphere on this and the fate of the Palestinians and make sure nobody gets the idea it’s done in their name.

    All they need is a platform, it’s not like institutions in the Jewish community make life for open anti-zionist Jews or anything.

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  17. @utu

    For Jews, this is personal. Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final. …
     
    I can see that everything in this statement is wrong and false but I am just paralyzed trying to respond to it for fear of sounding anti-semitic.

    “I can see that everything in this statement is wrong and false but I am just paralyzed trying to respond to it for fear of sounding anti-semitic.”

    That’s precisely what (((they))) have been counting on all these years.

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  18. Nothing about great-grandaddy’s country club? Looks like progress is possible in the world.

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  19. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Institutions matter, but they do not survive on their own. At the moment, the Anti-Defamation League is an institution under concerted attack — and it is not being defended. And so far, nothing else has arisen to forcefully take a stand in the Jewish fight against bigotry.

    Nothing? What about Skynet?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULmie51-pU&feature=youtu.be

    I really love how the comments are disabled on that video.

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    Meanwhile, in a parallel universe

    https://twitter.com/vdare/status/975517368893018112
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  20. Maybe he should move to Saudi Arabia.

    He can’t really believe what he wrote. Can he?

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  21. I approve of this. It’s a great way to get people to start noticing.

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  22. @rogue-one
    A very interesting quote from the article:

    >But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena, to reshape our quiescent institutions and mold them in our image.

    I enjoyed this one:

    Truth must also be defended, which is what groups like the league and the Southern Poverty Law Center try to do as they expose hate.

    Personally, I think it’s more effective to defend truth by exposing lies, and to defend niceness by exposing hate (and to defend my power to dictate what is true by conflating the two).

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    Yeah, it is a very simple but effective trick.

    My arguments are right because they are based on truth. Your arguments are wrong because they are based on hate. QED.

    Surprisingly, it works very effectively.
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  23. I’m surprised at the hostility aimed at Weisman. Isn’t he the guy who came up with the Jew-tracker regarding the Iran deal? That’s something that could’ve (and maybe did) appear here.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/nyt-quietly-removes-list-of-jewish-lawmakers.html

    There’s no pleasing Unz people.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    Hostility? Maybe get a safe space for the sensitive snowflake. Looks like mockery to me.
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  24. “The Cossacks (DJT Division) are coming!”

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  25. For Jews, this is personal.

    Isn’t everything?

    Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final. …

    I think that Mr Weisman needs to read a good history of the Holocaust. In Ukraine,to cite an obvious example, there was no interregnum before the Final Solution. The killing occurred in tandem with the invading…

    Why can’t the domestic apparatus of the American Jewish Committee reconstitute itself at the request of Jewish donors and members, and the Anti-Defamation League assert itself, like the Southern Poverty Law Center, in the arena of bigotry without fear of being charged with partisanship?

    The ADL needs to be more like $PLC? So, more fear-mongering as a way to raise funds from gullible elderly people?

    In the early 1930s, as Hitler …

    It’s always 1933…..And Hitler is always in the wings…..

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    1933 is the gift that keeps on giving. Gotta mine that vein dry.
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  26. Yeah we need more Jewish voices like this, to help “heal the divisions in society.”

    AHAHA AHAHA AHAAAAAHHAHAHAH

    Seriously though, she is literally Hitler. If you look at just her pathos, she is exactly the same as Hitler.

    Just use the word “Nazi” (dog whistle for conservative white Christian man), and any amount of hate is totally justified, or in fact encouraged.

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  27. American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena

    I nominate Stephen Miller.

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  28. @utu

    For Jews, this is personal. Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final. …
     
    I can see that everything in this statement is wrong and false but I am just paralyzed trying to respond to it for fear of sounding anti-semitic.

    Yes, it’s all the fault of those “ordinary” people 80 years ago. It’s funny (strange, not haha) how the stereotype about people prone to holding a grudge gets started… That may sound insensitive to tragedy, but last I checked the good guys defeated the bad guys in WW2. Wasn’t that enough sacrifice?

    Problems in the present have causes in the present, inasmuch as they may seem like age-old issues. Weisman needs to learn to deal in the present, his mental health will thank him.

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    ... last I checked the good guys defeated the bad guys in WW2.
     
    So, Stalin was a "good guy"?
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    For Jews, this is personal. Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final. …
     
    It's at least possible that Jews in these places prior to WWII were acting like, well, Jews. In which case, who would risk life and limb (not to mention the lives and limbs of one's own family) for a chance to save the guy who swindled you in business or who held your debt and with it a sword of Damocles over your head that you just can't seem to escape despite paying the principal many times over?

    Perhaps it's cold blooded but I think that any analysis of how "ordinary" Germans/Poles etc. behaved has to begin with the proposition that a people who consistently hold themselves out as a racially defined, chosen "other" and act in patterns of hostile/exploitative behavior towards their fellow man might not be able to rely upon his support in times of need.
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  29. @anony-mouse
    I'm surprised at the hostility aimed at Weisman. Isn't he the guy who came up with the Jew-tracker regarding the Iran deal? That's something that could've (and maybe did) appear here.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/nyt-quietly-removes-list-of-jewish-lawmakers.html

    There's no pleasing Unz people.

    Hostility? Maybe get a safe space for the sensitive snowflake. Looks like mockery to me.

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  30. I think we’re going to see more liberal Jews, like Weisman, who will chose the Coalition of the Fringes over Israel/Zionism.

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    Because Muslims and illiterate Catholics have NEVER launched anti-Jewish pogroms.
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  31. Just as the Malaysians gave strategic Singapore to the Chinese expats, maybe Jews would agree to stop complaining if they got Manhattan. A Jewish Autonomous Oblast for the 21st century. Yglesias proposed Southern secession but Manhattan secession might be a better idea. It could have it’s own army and navy and everything. Manhaxit.

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    • Replies: @Dr. X

    maybe Jews would agree to stop complaining if they got Manhattan
     
    They already have it... and Capitol Hill, too...
    , @Anonymous
    Yeah, but they'll get half the navy and most of the nuclear weapons, the way the incompetents on our side negotiate.
    , @Pericles
    I get the impression the Jews already have Manhattan but throw in New Jersey and perhaps that's enough. Oh who am I kidding.

    As an aside, it may also be instructive to see how they take over New Jersey towns. For instance

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-14/orthodox-jews-set-sights-on-n-j-town-and-angry-residents-resist

    “They literally go door to door and can be very pushy trying to purchase someone’s house,” Mr. Fulop, a grandson of Holocaust survivors and a graduate of yeshivas, said in an interview. “It’s not the best way to endear yourself to the community, and there’s been a lot of pushback.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/nyregion/ultra-orthodox-jews-hasidim-new-jersey.html
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  32. But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena…

    I’m just f-ing speechless…

    That’s like saying blacks need to assert a role in the NBA.

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    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    They really have no shame. None.
    , @Anonymous
    The closer analogy would be a claim that blacks are underrepresented in America in physical aggression.
    , @Anonymous
    Next they'll be complaining about the critical shortage of Asian computer programmers.
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  33. “But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena,”

    Translation = there are still goys left we need to silence.

    It must be frustrating to control so much of the traditional media, entertainment industry and social media and still those dastardly goys don’t know their place.

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  34. In the old days of print media things went through editors, who kept things within limits. The leftist media now publishes a lot of things on social media, which is completely unedited, and does not seem to edit pieces very much published on regular websites. You frequently see basic errors that anyone taking a second look at the piece- even the author doing a double check- should have corrected.

    Leftists have developed the habit of saying more aggressive and extreme things, and they don’t seem to realize that the subjects of their hate and contempt can read and understand what they are saying. A lot of people who didn’t used to be “anti-semitic” have become so by reading what Jews really think about them on Twitter.

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  35. @Anonym

    Institutions matter, but they do not survive on their own. At the moment, the Anti-Defamation League is an institution under concerted attack — and it is not being defended. And so far, nothing else has arisen to forcefully take a stand in the Jewish fight against bigotry. …
     
    Help! The poor, defenceless Anti-Defamation League is being defamed! There needs to be some sort of organization, maybe a League, to defend the ADL. An ADL for the ADL. That's a great idea.

    But hey, what if the ADL for the ADL comes under attack by virulent anti-Semites? The only foolproof solution is an ADL for the ADL for the ADL. My goyische kopf is starting to hurt... MY GOD. IT'S FULL OF STARS

    At some point the derivative just becomes zero right? :)

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  36. @bjdubbs
    Just as the Malaysians gave strategic Singapore to the Chinese expats, maybe Jews would agree to stop complaining if they got Manhattan. A Jewish Autonomous Oblast for the 21st century. Yglesias proposed Southern secession but Manhattan secession might be a better idea. It could have it's own army and navy and everything. Manhaxit.

    maybe Jews would agree to stop complaining if they got Manhattan

    They already have it… and Capitol Hill, too…

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  37. @bjdubbs
    Just as the Malaysians gave strategic Singapore to the Chinese expats, maybe Jews would agree to stop complaining if they got Manhattan. A Jewish Autonomous Oblast for the 21st century. Yglesias proposed Southern secession but Manhattan secession might be a better idea. It could have it's own army and navy and everything. Manhaxit.

    Yeah, but they’ll get half the navy and most of the nuclear weapons, the way the incompetents on our side negotiate.

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  38. @Forbes
    Yes, it's all the fault of those "ordinary" people 80 years ago. It's funny (strange, not haha) how the stereotype about people prone to holding a grudge gets started... That may sound insensitive to tragedy, but last I checked the good guys defeated the bad guys in WW2. Wasn't that enough sacrifice?

    Problems in the present have causes in the present, inasmuch as they may seem like age-old issues. Weisman needs to learn to deal in the present, his mental health will thank him.

    … last I checked the good guys defeated the bad guys in WW2.

    So, Stalin was a “good guy”?

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    So, Stalin was a “good guy”?
     
    Will publicly mentioning Stalin in a positive way get you socially ostracized or cause you to lose your job?
    , @Reg Cæsar


    … last I checked the good guys defeated the bad guys in WW2.

     

    So, Stalin was a “good guy”?
     
    And FDR?! Boy, are someone's standards low.
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  39. People talk about “Black Twitter”, but “Jewish Twitter” is something largely unspoken of. Not having an account myself, I’ve still seen enough screencaps to believe that it is a thing.

    It is quite interesting and revealing to see journalists and media figures speaking with less of a filter.

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    You should read the twitter feeds of these people. Jews, left or right. Take Julia Ioffe, for example. It's basically jews interacting, retweeting, and making jokes to other jews about non-jewish white America. They hate us.
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  40. I have a friend (actually he’s my law partner) who is Jewish and follows the movements and polemics of white nationalism and the like with a passion. He’s convinced that there is going to be a white nationalist uprising in the Pacific Northwest very soon based on what he’s been reading.

    I told him he’s crazy. Portland? Seattle? These are like the most devote liberal places in the country. They might as well be part of the EU.

    Bizzarro world for sure. The level of paranoia is insane.

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    Metro Seattle and Portland are tiny islands out of a vast, largely unpopulated region. And when you get out of the cities and the college towns it gets pretty different pretty vast. I don't know if the locals are white nationalist, but they are certainly not very worldly, educated, or curious. There's a lot of drugs, a lot of single moms, and a lot of disfunction pretty close to the surface.

    In a lot of ways the West Coast is pretty ghettoized. The gettos happen to be pretty nice and quite rich overall, but they are small areas where residents from around the globe can feel comfortable with their race, culture, and food. Outside of those areas they are not particularly welcome, and even more so, don't feel comfortable surrounded by a sea of white good ol' boys and people of walmart. It probably helps to explain how a state as big as Washington can have just a couple of pockets of industry and economic dynamism despite being a beautiful place with relatively low taxes and lots of resources nearby.
    , @Big Bill
    The paranoia is deep-rooted and nurtured from birth. A good thing, too, otherwise more of their sons and daughters would assimilate, fornicate with cute goyim (aka "The Second Holocaust"), and "finish the job Hitler started". A proper revulsion for race-mixing is a good thing. Way better than sitting shiva for your own children when they go over to the dark side.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    Man, I hope he's right.
    , @Anonymous
    There are a couple of WN movements in the Pacific Northwest, but they are not going anywhere real soon. Living as a hardcore 'out' WN in Seattle, Portland, or any other major city west of the Cascades is an invitation to constant antifa and SJW harassment and vigorous self defense will probably get you jailed. And the economics of rural Oregon and Washington State are not that good for most people.

    That said, living in the band that real estate huckster Comma Rawles and his followers call "the American Redoubt" is probably fairly safe for an out WN. There are fair numbers of them in Idaho, in Montana west of I-5 and in the environs of Spokane, to the extent that there are "fair numbers" of them at all.

    Basically, all the WN movements in the US put together have about one or two percent of the financial resources of the Los Angeles chapter of B'nai Brith. That includes organizations helmed by certified crazies and organizations widely and probably correctly identified as FBI, BATFE or SPLC/ADL fronts.

    The Northwest gets publicity because of the few remnants of people brought in by Aryan Nations decades ago and from Harold Covington, who heads what he calls the Northwest Front. Covington is a competent novelist who has well explained his vision of an independent Northwest American Republic in several good works of fiction (a lot better then CommaRawles' tech manuals thinly disguised as novels).
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  41. On “60 Minutes” today they had on the student leaders of the “Children’s Crusade Against the Second Amendment” and it’s interesting that the most simple question of who was financing them still remains unanswered; only that they accepted money, much from “Hollywood” to keep their activities in full attack mode.

    “Hollywood” money… I wonder who that could be?

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  42. Institutions matter, but they do not survive on their own. At the moment, the Anti-Defamation League is an institution under concerted attack — and it is not being defended. And so far, nothing else has arisen to forcefully take a stand in the Jewish fight against bigotry. … Truth must also be defended, which is what groups like the league and the Southern Poverty Law Center try to do as they expose hate. …

    As a certain troll says over and over, we need to engage in a Goliath vs David struggle to speak power to truth.

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  43. @rogue-one
    A very interesting quote from the article:

    >But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena, to reshape our quiescent institutions and mold them in our image.

    The Pope needs to be Catholic… …oh wait…

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  44. @Anonym

    Institutions matter, but they do not survive on their own. At the moment, the Anti-Defamation League is an institution under concerted attack — and it is not being defended. And so far, nothing else has arisen to forcefully take a stand in the Jewish fight against bigotry. …
     
    Help! The poor, defenceless Anti-Defamation League is being defamed! There needs to be some sort of organization, maybe a League, to defend the ADL. An ADL for the ADL. That's a great idea.

    But hey, what if the ADL for the ADL comes under attack by virulent anti-Semites? The only foolproof solution is an ADL for the ADL for the ADL. My goyische kopf is starting to hurt... MY GOD. IT'S FULL OF STARS

    The only foolproof solution is an ADL for the ADL for the ADL

    Yep, turtles, all the way down.

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  45. @Dr. X

    But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena...
     
    I'm just f-ing speechless...

    That's like saying blacks need to assert a role in the NBA.

    They really have no shame. None.

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  46. The article reads like satire. Like saying we need more blacks in the NBA.

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  47. @Redman
    I have a friend (actually he’s my law partner) who is Jewish and follows the movements and polemics of white nationalism and the like with a passion. He’s convinced that there is going to be a white nationalist uprising in the Pacific Northwest very soon based on what he’s been reading.

    I told him he’s crazy. Portland? Seattle? These are like the most devote liberal places in the country. They might as well be part of the EU.

    Bizzarro world for sure. The level of paranoia is insane.

    Metro Seattle and Portland are tiny islands out of a vast, largely unpopulated region. And when you get out of the cities and the college towns it gets pretty different pretty vast. I don’t know if the locals are white nationalist, but they are certainly not very worldly, educated, or curious. There’s a lot of drugs, a lot of single moms, and a lot of disfunction pretty close to the surface.

    In a lot of ways the West Coast is pretty ghettoized. The gettos happen to be pretty nice and quite rich overall, but they are small areas where residents from around the globe can feel comfortable with their race, culture, and food. Outside of those areas they are not particularly welcome, and even more so, don’t feel comfortable surrounded by a sea of white good ol’ boys and people of walmart. It probably helps to explain how a state as big as Washington can have just a couple of pockets of industry and economic dynamism despite being a beautiful place with relatively low taxes and lots of resources nearby.

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    Look at Spokane, Washington.

    84% non-Hispanic White (5% Hispanic and 2% black). It has one of the highest crime rates in America. See below quote.

    http://www.krem.com/article/news/local/verify/verify-are-spokanes-crime-rates-the-worst-in-the-nation/293-494087652

    Therefore, we can verify that Spokane does have one of the worst crime rates in the U.S. per capita. Detroit falls into that category as well, but it also has a much larger population and a higher number of reported violent and property crimes compared to Spokane.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjqE3b1dQU
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  48. Those poor darlings; no one to speak up for them.

    I used to listen to the John Batchelor Show from NYC at night and he used to regularly have a guest that was – I’m sure I won’t get this right – The president of the Organization of Presidents of the MAJOR jewish organizations in the US – none of those small potatoes organizations wanted: thank you very much.

    Can you imagine the uproar and weeping and gnashing of teeth if there were ONE white organization?

    These people have engineered it so that you can’t get into an Ivy League school unless you’re a: jew,black,hiSPanIC,a more exotic minority,girl,or a wimp from the coasts or enclaves like Chapel Hill, NYC, Austin etc The tribal solidarity keeps a stranglehold.

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  49. @Redman
    I have a friend (actually he’s my law partner) who is Jewish and follows the movements and polemics of white nationalism and the like with a passion. He’s convinced that there is going to be a white nationalist uprising in the Pacific Northwest very soon based on what he’s been reading.

    I told him he’s crazy. Portland? Seattle? These are like the most devote liberal places in the country. They might as well be part of the EU.

    Bizzarro world for sure. The level of paranoia is insane.

    The paranoia is deep-rooted and nurtured from birth. A good thing, too, otherwise more of their sons and daughters would assimilate, fornicate with cute goyim (aka “The Second Holocaust”), and “finish the job Hitler started”. A proper revulsion for race-mixing is a good thing. Way better than sitting shiva for your own children when they go over to the dark side.

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    I was very interested in a Jewish girl when I was in high school. It was my father who put the kibosh on that -"We aren't having any Christ killers in this family" were his quite exact words. Her parents were cool with it.

    She later became the second most famous person in that city to come out of that high school, going to college for meteorology and being the weather girl on the most popular station in town for years. She also apparently became a lesbian, and was afflicted with a serious health problem disproportionately impacting lesbians (and other barren does). The most famous was the scion of the local beer tycoon family, who was surprisingly allowed to attend a public high school. He's had his ass in the crack over various scandals here and there, but since they sold out to the Belgians no one cares.
    , @Anonymous
    This.
    , @Moses

    The paranoia is deep-rooted and nurtured from birth. A good thing, too, otherwise more of their sons and daughters would assimilate

     

    Yes. This.

    Jews have evolved a very strong in-group/out-group orientation. It's enforced partly by constant paranoia of outside threats (both real and imagined, it doesn't matter) that keeps them part of the in-group and prevents defections.

    How else do you think this group has survived 3,000 years? It's genius, actually. But I don't think it's conscious or intentional. Just group evolution and natural selection at work.

    Jews without enemies (again, real or imagined it doesn't matter) would fade away as a group within a few generations. They *need* enemies. So they evolved belief systems and behavior to create them (both real and imagined). It's an extremely fit group evolutionary adaptation.

    Read the Old Testament for more details.

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  50. Truth must also be defended…

    Of all the scolds on this forum, at least he tries to be entertaining.

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Truth

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  51. @Dr. X

    ... last I checked the good guys defeated the bad guys in WW2.
     
    So, Stalin was a "good guy"?

    So, Stalin was a “good guy”?

    Will publicly mentioning Stalin in a positive way get you socially ostracized or cause you to lose your job?

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  52. @Dr. X

    ... last I checked the good guys defeated the bad guys in WW2.
     
    So, Stalin was a "good guy"?

    … last I checked the good guys defeated the bad guys in WW2.

    So, Stalin was a “good guy”?

    And FDR?! Boy, are someone’s standards low.

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  53. But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena…

    Some, like the Weinsteins, are too busy asserting their voice in the pubic arena.

    Which brings up the question, is #MeToo also “anti-Semitic”? I mean, the odds of that high a percentage of the acccused being Jews defies random probabilities.

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  54. @newrouter
    "But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena,"

    Does the word chutzpah apply here?

    yeah, I was also lost how they have not had the megaphone for years, now..forget ‘assert’ or even chutzpah.

    Full disclosure: Normally, I do not chime into Jewish stuff (my husband and I were raised to be good Protestants); however, being from the Nordic lands, I have always been taught that there are “good Jews and bad Jews” just like Good cop/Bad cop stuff, we heard on Law & Order. Or, on a personal level bc I have a yuge family: we (my family); have losers and parasites vs productive business executives, but it is still a big mess. However, sooner or later the idea of what you bring to survival, determines you worthiness; what can you do to protect against the avalanche? You have one life.

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    However, sooner or later the idea of what you bring to survival, determines you worthiness; what can you do to protect against the avalanche? You have one life.

    What do you mean? Determines your worthiness in whose eyes? What avalanche?
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  55. @songbird
    People talk about "Black Twitter", but "Jewish Twitter" is something largely unspoken of. Not having an account myself, I've still seen enough screencaps to believe that it is a thing.

    It is quite interesting and revealing to see journalists and media figures speaking with less of a filter.

    You should read the twitter feeds of these people. Jews, left or right. Take Julia Ioffe, for example. It’s basically jews interacting, retweeting, and making jokes to other jews about non-jewish white America. They hate us.

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    I have many jewish friends and I just think it is very hard for Europeans to understand the level of hatred and paranoia, it isn't in our makeup.

    I agree twitter has enabled a vocal minority amongst us to give some back. Reminds me of the story of a bus load of journalists being jeered as they left from covering a Pat Buchanan rally and the Buchananites took the opportunity to show some hate back.

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  56. “Mr. Cernovich advocates I.Q. tests for immigrants and “no white guilt,” and is an unapologetic misogynist. …” (((Cernovich))), yes – he’s Jewish, is married to an Iranian Muslim woman. Nothing kosher here.

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  57. Reading this piece, you might imagine that native-born white non-Hispanic gentiles, the largest group not included in the list of victims, are less likely to be the target of hate crimes, and are always the perpetrators. What a bubble these people live in. Their attitudes would inspire pity, except that they have real-world consequences for us all.

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  58. @Chief Seattle
    Metro Seattle and Portland are tiny islands out of a vast, largely unpopulated region. And when you get out of the cities and the college towns it gets pretty different pretty vast. I don't know if the locals are white nationalist, but they are certainly not very worldly, educated, or curious. There's a lot of drugs, a lot of single moms, and a lot of disfunction pretty close to the surface.

    In a lot of ways the West Coast is pretty ghettoized. The gettos happen to be pretty nice and quite rich overall, but they are small areas where residents from around the globe can feel comfortable with their race, culture, and food. Outside of those areas they are not particularly welcome, and even more so, don't feel comfortable surrounded by a sea of white good ol' boys and people of walmart. It probably helps to explain how a state as big as Washington can have just a couple of pockets of industry and economic dynamism despite being a beautiful place with relatively low taxes and lots of resources nearby.

    Look at Spokane, Washington.

    84% non-Hispanic White (5% Hispanic and 2% black). It has one of the highest crime rates in America. See below quote.

    http://www.krem.com/article/news/local/verify/verify-are-spokanes-crime-rates-the-worst-in-the-nation/293-494087652

    Therefore, we can verify that Spokane does have one of the worst crime rates in the U.S. per capita. Detroit falls into that category as well, but it also has a much larger population and a higher number of reported violent and property crimes compared to Spokane.

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    Weird

    https://www.inlander.com/Bloglander/archives/2016/05/25/why-this-list-of-30-most-dangerous-cities-spokane-is-no-22-is-problematic
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  59. @Redman
    I have a friend (actually he’s my law partner) who is Jewish and follows the movements and polemics of white nationalism and the like with a passion. He’s convinced that there is going to be a white nationalist uprising in the Pacific Northwest very soon based on what he’s been reading.

    I told him he’s crazy. Portland? Seattle? These are like the most devote liberal places in the country. They might as well be part of the EU.

    Bizzarro world for sure. The level of paranoia is insane.

    Man, I hope he’s right.

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  60. “But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena, to reshape our quiescent institutions and mold them in our image. And Jewish leadership must reflect its congregants, who are not sheep.”

    And just what might “our image” look like or be like, and what collective entity does the “our” refer to? Is he saying (and it seems like it to me) that American institutions should be molded to reflect a Jewish (3% of the population) image? Imagine the hysterical, frothing at the mouth reaction of Weisman and his ilk if a southern Baptist or Irish-American Catholic had written — “American Catholics (Baptists) need to assert a voice in the public arena, to reshape our quiescent institutions and mold them in our image.” Kristallnacht would be just days away.

    “Mr. Cernovich advocates I.Q. tests for immigrants and ‘no white guilt’.”

    Weisman is unhappy because fellow Jew, Josh Mandel, defends Cernovich. This is interesting. Mandel is a conservative Republican Jew who happens to live in Ohio and around a lot of white gentile working class people, and he knows what a bullshit, extortionist ploy “white guilt” is. Weisman is a typical left-wing Jew who lives in the Manhattan bubble: only left-wing Jews are real Jews. Weisman has a vested interest in ramping up white guilt, the centerpiece of identity politics, tirelessly propagandized by the NYT. Jews must always be victims, which affirms their virtue and solidifies their grasp on entitlements. Liberal Jews have ontologized the Hollocaust, the essence and permanence of evil, making them unique in suffering with a permanent enemy that is always out there, threatening and ready to repeat history.

    Weisman caps it off by citing the Jewish run SPLC which specializes in smearing even moderately conservative Christians. SPLC has become fabulously rich through fundraising off of the myth of a ubiquitous Klan. Morris Dees who built it is a Bernie Madoff-style con-artist specializing in scaring rich white liberals to give him lots of money to fight (largely) fictitious right-wing hordes pouring out of America’s farms and small towns.

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  61. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Redman
    I have a friend (actually he’s my law partner) who is Jewish and follows the movements and polemics of white nationalism and the like with a passion. He’s convinced that there is going to be a white nationalist uprising in the Pacific Northwest very soon based on what he’s been reading.

    I told him he’s crazy. Portland? Seattle? These are like the most devote liberal places in the country. They might as well be part of the EU.

    Bizzarro world for sure. The level of paranoia is insane.

    There are a couple of WN movements in the Pacific Northwest, but they are not going anywhere real soon. Living as a hardcore ‘out’ WN in Seattle, Portland, or any other major city west of the Cascades is an invitation to constant antifa and SJW harassment and vigorous self defense will probably get you jailed. And the economics of rural Oregon and Washington State are not that good for most people.

    That said, living in the band that real estate huckster Comma Rawles and his followers call “the American Redoubt” is probably fairly safe for an out WN. There are fair numbers of them in Idaho, in Montana west of I-5 and in the environs of Spokane, to the extent that there are “fair numbers” of them at all.

    Basically, all the WN movements in the US put together have about one or two percent of the financial resources of the Los Angeles chapter of B’nai Brith. That includes organizations helmed by certified crazies and organizations widely and probably correctly identified as FBI, BATFE or SPLC/ADL fronts.

    The Northwest gets publicity because of the few remnants of people brought in by Aryan Nations decades ago and from Harold Covington, who heads what he calls the Northwest Front. Covington is a competent novelist who has well explained his vision of an independent Northwest American Republic in several good works of fiction (a lot better then CommaRawles’ tech manuals thinly disguised as novels).

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    One big problem WN has is not understanding that content creator and political leader are very different roles.

    Harold Covington seems to be a classic example of this, although I don't actually know what the Northwest Fromt like on the ground.
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  62. @JohnnyD
    I think we're going to see more liberal Jews, like Weisman, who will chose the Coalition of the Fringes over Israel/Zionism.

    Because Muslims and illiterate Catholics have NEVER launched anti-Jewish pogroms.

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  63. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Big Bill
    The paranoia is deep-rooted and nurtured from birth. A good thing, too, otherwise more of their sons and daughters would assimilate, fornicate with cute goyim (aka "The Second Holocaust"), and "finish the job Hitler started". A proper revulsion for race-mixing is a good thing. Way better than sitting shiva for your own children when they go over to the dark side.

    I was very interested in a Jewish girl when I was in high school. It was my father who put the kibosh on that -“We aren’t having any Christ killers in this family” were his quite exact words. Her parents were cool with it.

    She later became the second most famous person in that city to come out of that high school, going to college for meteorology and being the weather girl on the most popular station in town for years. She also apparently became a lesbian, and was afflicted with a serious health problem disproportionately impacting lesbians (and other barren does). The most famous was the scion of the local beer tycoon family, who was surprisingly allowed to attend a public high school. He’s had his ass in the crack over various scandals here and there, but since they sold out to the Belgians no one cares.

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  64. @Dr. X

    But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena...
     
    I'm just f-ing speechless...

    That's like saying blacks need to assert a role in the NBA.

    The closer analogy would be a claim that blacks are underrepresented in America in physical aggression.

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  65. @Anonym

    Institutions matter, but they do not survive on their own. At the moment, the Anti-Defamation League is an institution under concerted attack — and it is not being defended. And so far, nothing else has arisen to forcefully take a stand in the Jewish fight against bigotry. …
     
    Help! The poor, defenceless Anti-Defamation League is being defamed! There needs to be some sort of organization, maybe a League, to defend the ADL. An ADL for the ADL. That's a great idea.

    But hey, what if the ADL for the ADL comes under attack by virulent anti-Semites? The only foolproof solution is an ADL for the ADL for the ADL. My goyische kopf is starting to hurt... MY GOD. IT'S FULL OF STARS

    There needs to be some sort of organization, maybe a League, to defend the ADL. An ADL for the ADL. That’s a great idea.

    Perhaps there needs to be an Anti Noticing Anything League – ANAL

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    Now there's a concept we can all get behind.
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  66. Weisman in NYT: “Jews Need to Assert a Voice in the Public Arena”

    Yes, by all means. Jews have been absent from the public arena for far too long.

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  67. @Big Bill
    The paranoia is deep-rooted and nurtured from birth. A good thing, too, otherwise more of their sons and daughters would assimilate, fornicate with cute goyim (aka "The Second Holocaust"), and "finish the job Hitler started". A proper revulsion for race-mixing is a good thing. Way better than sitting shiva for your own children when they go over to the dark side.

    This.

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  68. @Lagertha
    yeah, I was also lost how they have not had the megaphone for years, now..forget 'assert' or even chutzpah.

    Full disclosure: Normally, I do not chime into Jewish stuff (my husband and I were raised to be good Protestants); however, being from the Nordic lands, I have always been taught that there are "good Jews and bad Jews" just like Good cop/Bad cop stuff, we heard on Law & Order. Or, on a personal level bc I have a yuge family: we (my family); have losers and parasites vs productive business executives, but it is still a big mess. However, sooner or later the idea of what you bring to survival, determines you worthiness; what can you do to protect against the avalanche? You have one life.

    However, sooner or later the idea of what you bring to survival, determines you worthiness; what can you do to protect against the avalanche? You have one life.

    What do you mean? Determines your worthiness in whose eyes? What avalanche?

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    haha! It does seem like I just took a bong hit!

    What I meant: there are "bad" people, or incompetent/deceitful people in every ethnic or racial group; Jews are not perfect.

    I have gotten weary of Jews who insist on maintaining the idea that they are entitled to be an insular group; a group that needs boundaries from others; all others (especially white Christians), who they continue to view with contempt and trepidation. Jews seem to see themselves as morally superior to every other group (like caring more about illegal aliens than citizens; encouraging mass immigration from Muslim countries, Latin America, Africa instead of actually, caring about American poor of any race) and, lately, they are suspicious that Americans of European descent, the Deplorables, are out to get them; yet, they openly mock them, mock all conservatives, all Republicans, all Christians, all white people, especially males. The peddling of the White Privilege meme has backfired.

    I am sick of identitarian politics, grievance collecting, ever-expanding victimhood , because it has lead to division, which I guess, was the goal of globalists. This incessant push to suggest that diversity & multiculturalism is necessary, or even good, is so disingenuous since Jews still want to remain separated from all the other groups who are actively being coerced to give up their culture, traditions, beliefs, whatever they are. Oh, and that people of any means have a duty to pay for immigrants, illegals through their taxes...because hundreds of years ago, their ancestors benefited from "white privilege."

    Because in the end, it leads to anarchy and nihilism as people compete for dwindling resources in a country that becomes more and more balkanized, while land/the environment gets degraded by development from massive population growth thru immigration.

    You only have resources and enough time to nurture your own family, or small group, and, religious identity is not going to matter one bit when an avalanche hits -admit that the avalanche metaphor was awkward: it is this dystopian world I envision; and, my fears of globalists, coastal elites, Neos, media who are pushing for nuclear war with Russia.

    And, I did mean just an avalanche...because you have to rely on yourself to survive - you have to be tough and brave because you have no choice. None of us can rely on some group-think identity nonsense anymore, because we are hard-wired to survive in small groups. Once nobody trusts institutions, govt, other people, all hell breaks loose. And, since I have children, I am very concerned about survival. Yeah, I know, I have become very cynical. I do live in my own bubble, however :) .
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    "irrational"

    https://twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/974762416457310208
    , @Anonymous
    "The Global Era" -- what they call their very own Thousand-Year Reich. May it last as long as the other one did.
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  70. @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYg5pl9U0AASa7Y.jpg

    “irrational”

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  71. Jews will continue as a distinct people

    Your descendants will not look like you

    Just the other day at a restaurant I saw five old white couples with a mixed race child

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    Huh? From Wikipedia:

    "A 2013 survey conducted in the United States by the Pew Research Center’s Religion & Public Life Project found the intermarriage rate to be 58% among all Jews and 71% among non-Orthodox Jews."

    vs.

    "White Americans were statistically the least likely to wed interracially, though in absolute terms they were involved in interracial marriages more than any other racial group due to their demographic majority. 2.1% of married White women and 2.3% of married White men had a non-White spouse. 1.0% of all married White men were married to an Asian American woman, and 1.0% of married White women were married to a man classified as "other"."

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  72. Trees don’t grow to the sky. We could very easily be witnessing the peak of Jewish influence in the U.S.

    I wonder how much of this shpelkis revolves around the disintermediation due to technology going on in the (((media))). First the newspapers took a bullet in the neck with craigslist. Then you have the rise of internet media which has beat the traditional media to the punch. Next you have the President using twitter to bypass the media entirely. Then you have the drop in viewership with sports. And finally, you have the Weinstein affair that is rocking Hollywood. The technology behind Deep fake porn will allow anyone, without a studio, to make a movie in 20 years. Technology is doing to the media what it did to the steel and auto industry.

    The media has always been the redoubt or ace in the hole for Jews but with advances in technology, global communications, and a changing population, it looks like the bottom is falling out quick. Too bad.

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  73. @utu

    For Jews, this is personal. Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final. …
     
    I can see that everything in this statement is wrong and false but I am just paralyzed trying to respond to it for fear of sounding anti-semitic.

    I am just paralyzed trying to respond to it for fear of sounding anti-semitic.

    Ahem, I prefer the term “counter-semitic.” More accurate.

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  74. @syonredux

    For Jews, this is personal.
     
    Isn't everything?

    Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final. …
     
    I think that Mr Weisman needs to read a good history of the Holocaust. In Ukraine,to cite an obvious example, there was no interregnum before the Final Solution. The killing occurred in tandem with the invading...

    Why can’t the domestic apparatus of the American Jewish Committee reconstitute itself at the request of Jewish donors and members, and the Anti-Defamation League assert itself, like the Southern Poverty Law Center, in the arena of bigotry without fear of being charged with partisanship?

     

    The ADL needs to be more like $PLC? So, more fear-mongering as a way to raise funds from gullible elderly people?

    In the early 1930s, as Hitler …
     
    It's always 1933.....And Hitler is always in the wings.....

    1933 is the gift that keeps on giving. Gotta mine that vein dry.

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  75. To the extent that American Jewish organizations are indeed not making a big deal out of Twitter Nazis, doesn’t that speak well of them?

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  76. @Big Bill
    The paranoia is deep-rooted and nurtured from birth. A good thing, too, otherwise more of their sons and daughters would assimilate, fornicate with cute goyim (aka "The Second Holocaust"), and "finish the job Hitler started". A proper revulsion for race-mixing is a good thing. Way better than sitting shiva for your own children when they go over to the dark side.

    The paranoia is deep-rooted and nurtured from birth. A good thing, too, otherwise more of their sons and daughters would assimilate

    Yes. This.

    Jews have evolved a very strong in-group/out-group orientation. It’s enforced partly by constant paranoia of outside threats (both real and imagined, it doesn’t matter) that keeps them part of the in-group and prevents defections.

    How else do you think this group has survived 3,000 years? It’s genius, actually. But I don’t think it’s conscious or intentional. Just group evolution and natural selection at work.

    Jews without enemies (again, real or imagined it doesn’t matter) would fade away as a group within a few generations. They *need* enemies. So they evolved belief systems and behavior to create them (both real and imagined). It’s an extremely fit group evolutionary adaptation.

    Read the Old Testament for more details.

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  77. @JohnnyWalker123
    Look at Spokane, Washington.

    84% non-Hispanic White (5% Hispanic and 2% black). It has one of the highest crime rates in America. See below quote.

    http://www.krem.com/article/news/local/verify/verify-are-spokanes-crime-rates-the-worst-in-the-nation/293-494087652

    Therefore, we can verify that Spokane does have one of the worst crime rates in the U.S. per capita. Detroit falls into that category as well, but it also has a much larger population and a higher number of reported violent and property crimes compared to Spokane.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjqE3b1dQU
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  78. I definitely think there has been a recent increase in antisemitism. I say that as someone who believes antisemitism barely existed in the U.S in my lifetime (until now). I base this on comments I am reading on a wide variety of websites and blogs. I have seen more antisemitic comments in the past year or so than the rest of my life put together.

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    And yet you haven't a clue about the difference between anecdotes and data. And even the data includes Israeli trolling. Suit yourself, you're just proving a stereotype.
    , @anon
    It wasn't until the past few years that prominent Jewish people started talking all the time about how really, really excited they were about white people being outnumbered in the United States. I wonder if there's a connection.
    , @Moses
    Would you mind defining "anti-semitism" in an objective way? Serious question.

    As a follow-up, is it possible for a Jew to be an anti-gentite? If so, would that be the same definition of "anti-semite" but applied to gentiles? Also a serious question.

    , @Anonymous
    What do you think is causing people to criticize jews more than in the past?
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  79. @WowJustWow
    I enjoyed this one:

    Truth must also be defended, which is what groups like the league and the Southern Poverty Law Center try to do as they expose hate.
     
    Personally, I think it's more effective to defend truth by exposing lies, and to defend niceness by exposing hate (and to defend my power to dictate what is true by conflating the two).

    Yeah, it is a very simple but effective trick.

    My arguments are right because they are based on truth. Your arguments are wrong because they are based on hate. QED.

    Surprisingly, it works very effectively.

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  80. >>>Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final…

    And such small portions!!

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  81. @Mr. Anon

    There needs to be some sort of organization, maybe a League, to defend the ADL. An ADL for the ADL. That’s a great idea.
     
    Perhaps there needs to be an Anti Noticing Anything League - ANAL

    Now there’s a concept we can all get behind.

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  82. @Malcolm X-Lax
    You should read the twitter feeds of these people. Jews, left or right. Take Julia Ioffe, for example. It's basically jews interacting, retweeting, and making jokes to other jews about non-jewish white America. They hate us.

    I have many jewish friends and I just think it is very hard for Europeans to understand the level of hatred and paranoia, it isn’t in our makeup.

    I agree twitter has enabled a vocal minority amongst us to give some back. Reminds me of the story of a bus load of journalists being jeered as they left from covering a Pat Buchanan rally and the Buchananites took the opportunity to show some hate back.

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    My experience as well. An addendum to my previous comment re Ioffe. She is a Russian jew who came to the US as a kid. Something I've noticed about these relatively recent jewish arrivals from Eastern Europe and Russia. They're not as careful in their language, less filtered. The jewish women are even worse than the men.
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  83. @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYg5pl9U0AASa7Y.jpg

    “The Global Era” — what they call their very own Thousand-Year Reich. May it last as long as the other one did.

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  84. @IHTG
    To the extent that American Jewish organizations are indeed not making a big deal out of Twitter Nazis, doesn't that speak well of them?

    Most nationalist types have been banned and anyone who even says anything edgy gets shadow-banned. That’s not enough for you? Twitter is almost completely co-opted.

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  85. @Jay Fink
    I definitely think there has been a recent increase in antisemitism. I say that as someone who believes antisemitism barely existed in the U.S in my lifetime (until now). I base this on comments I am reading on a wide variety of websites and blogs. I have seen more antisemitic comments in the past year or so than the rest of my life put together.

    And yet you haven’t a clue about the difference between anecdotes and data. And even the data includes Israeli trolling. Suit yourself, you’re just proving a stereotype.

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  86. @3g4me
    "Ohio’s Republican state treasurer, Josh Mandel, who is Jewish, actually expressed support for two of the people on the list: Mike Cernovich and Jack Posobiec, conservative provocateurs who have found notoriety in the Trump era. …"

    How . . . unusual Mandel would specify those two individuals for approval. Cernovich, who may be Jewish himself (have seen conflicting info) is quite specifically NOT alt-right, believing in civic nationalism and the melting pot, and his 2nd wife is an Iranian Muslim. Posobiec is another questionable individual to much of the alt-right, both regarding his ethnicity and perceived government connections.

    Otherwise this is, of course, more of the standard persecution paranoia porn common among Jews in America; cue (((Tyrion2))) from England to explain how Weisman is really not saying what you think he's saying, Steve. He's really a super patriotic nationalist American who's writing a super-clever argument that actually advocates that which he theoretically denounces.

    Goodness, I wonder where the ethnic paranoia comes from?

    Your comment, like half of those on this thread, is nuts.

    A Jew defends a couple of his favourite alt right personalities against another Jew’s criticism and its…a Jewish plot!

    I point out that a Jew who explicitly argues for nationalism in a Western context and specifically does so to the most progressive establishment readers in all of their favourite publications may actually quite like nationalism and I’m…a Jewish plot!

    Get a grip! You’re actually more crazy than the author of this article.

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  87. @anon

    Mr. Cernovich advocates I.Q. tests for immigrants and “no white guilt,”
     
    Wouldn't that be PRO-Jewish? I mean, I'm assuming it's the low end of the IQ distribution he wants to keep out, so wouldn't Jews be the ones best able to take advantage of that?

    I wish these people would make up their minds about whether IQ matters or not. Because it does actually tie in with the whole "no white guilt" thing. This is kind of how things go:

    Person: "Man, Jewish people sure do have an awful lot of power in the media."

    ADL: "Well, you have to understand. That's just because our IQs are so much higher!"

    Person: "OK. Well then, maybe the reason white people are so much more successful than black people is because our IQs are higher than theirs? Maybe we don't have anything to feel guilty about?"

    ADL: "You're banned from YouTube!!!"

    Dealing with these people is just never very pleasant. I don't know where they got the idea that serving as "trusted flaggers" on YouTube and getting people's channels shut down is going to make people like them any more either.

    I wish these people would make up their minds about whether IQ matters or not.

    You find the fact that not all Jews think the same to be disturbing?!? I thought the whole Jewish plot was that we all thought the same! I wish you’d make up your mind.

    My personal thoughts on the matter follow my father’s, who occasionally said “2 Jews, 3 opinions”.

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    I think what he finds disturbing is that the very same people will say X when X favours them and not-X when X is unfavorable. The key being "the same people", not different people from the same group disagreeing among themselves.
    , @Disordered
    Yeah, there's liberal and conservarive Jews. So? Both have a lot of power and influence in their respective wings. Not to say they have THE power, but as having several wealthy individuals among them doing business together usually, they are part of the establishment. Not necessarily a reason to be antisemite - though obviously Jews root more for the more internationalist parties, which tend to be leftist (except in Israel, where Netanyahu is popular); therefore that gets them the Western Right's hate some more. So I agree that there's Jews with varying opinions, but most of the influential ones not so much, either left-liberal or neocon...
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  88. @anon

    Institutions matter, but they do not survive on their own. At the moment, the Anti-Defamation League is an institution under concerted attack — and it is not being defended. And so far, nothing else has arisen to forcefully take a stand in the Jewish fight against bigotry.
     
    Nothing? What about Skynet?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULmie51-pU&feature=youtu.be

    I really love how the comments are disabled on that video.

    Meanwhile, in a parallel universe

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  89. Anyway, my thoughts on this article:

    Weissman seems mostly to be whinging that Jews are less and less into all of the progressive nonsense. His argument style is cloying and passive aggressive and mostly constitutes a guilt-trip by association. Nonetheless, since the median on this site is between denying the Holocaust and boastfully calling for a second one, I also can’t help but understand where he is coming from.

    Also, his last couple of paragraphs are interesting. They don’t really mesh with the rest as they’re a fine sentiment.

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  90. @3g4me
    "Ohio’s Republican state treasurer, Josh Mandel, who is Jewish, actually expressed support for two of the people on the list: Mike Cernovich and Jack Posobiec, conservative provocateurs who have found notoriety in the Trump era. …"

    How . . . unusual Mandel would specify those two individuals for approval. Cernovich, who may be Jewish himself (have seen conflicting info) is quite specifically NOT alt-right, believing in civic nationalism and the melting pot, and his 2nd wife is an Iranian Muslim. Posobiec is another questionable individual to much of the alt-right, both regarding his ethnicity and perceived government connections.

    Otherwise this is, of course, more of the standard persecution paranoia porn common among Jews in America; cue (((Tyrion2))) from England to explain how Weisman is really not saying what you think he's saying, Steve. He's really a super patriotic nationalist American who's writing a super-clever argument that actually advocates that which he theoretically denounces.

    For some reason, I always thought Tyrion2 was the nome de plume of Robert Reich.

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  91. If there really were an overpowering conspiracy of Jews to run the world, they would ensure that chumps such as Jonathan Weisman kept his trap shut. He doesn’t so there isn’t.

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  92. @bjdubbs
    Just as the Malaysians gave strategic Singapore to the Chinese expats, maybe Jews would agree to stop complaining if they got Manhattan. A Jewish Autonomous Oblast for the 21st century. Yglesias proposed Southern secession but Manhattan secession might be a better idea. It could have it's own army and navy and everything. Manhaxit.

    I get the impression the Jews already have Manhattan but throw in New Jersey and perhaps that’s enough. Oh who am I kidding.

    As an aside, it may also be instructive to see how they take over New Jersey towns. For instance

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-14/orthodox-jews-set-sights-on-n-j-town-and-angry-residents-resist

    “They literally go door to door and can be very pushy trying to purchase someone’s house,” Mr. Fulop, a grandson of Holocaust survivors and a graduate of yeshivas, said in an interview. “It’s not the best way to endear yourself to the community, and there’s been a lot of pushback.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/nyregion/ultra-orthodox-jews-hasidim-new-jersey.html

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  93. @Jay Fink
    I definitely think there has been a recent increase in antisemitism. I say that as someone who believes antisemitism barely existed in the U.S in my lifetime (until now). I base this on comments I am reading on a wide variety of websites and blogs. I have seen more antisemitic comments in the past year or so than the rest of my life put together.

    It wasn’t until the past few years that prominent Jewish people started talking all the time about how really, really excited they were about white people being outnumbered in the United States. I wonder if there’s a connection.

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  94. @Jay Fink
    I definitely think there has been a recent increase in antisemitism. I say that as someone who believes antisemitism barely existed in the U.S in my lifetime (until now). I base this on comments I am reading on a wide variety of websites and blogs. I have seen more antisemitic comments in the past year or so than the rest of my life put together.

    Would you mind defining “anti-semitism” in an objective way? Serious question.

    As a follow-up, is it possible for a Jew to be an anti-gentite? If so, would that be the same definition of “anti-semite” but applied to gentiles? Also a serious question.

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  95. @newrouter
    "But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena,"

    Does the word chutzpah apply here?

    Is there any difference between “chutzpah” and “startling lack of self awareness”? Asking for a friend.

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    I have the impression that with chutzpah you know what you are doing.
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  96. @Anonymous
    There are a couple of WN movements in the Pacific Northwest, but they are not going anywhere real soon. Living as a hardcore 'out' WN in Seattle, Portland, or any other major city west of the Cascades is an invitation to constant antifa and SJW harassment and vigorous self defense will probably get you jailed. And the economics of rural Oregon and Washington State are not that good for most people.

    That said, living in the band that real estate huckster Comma Rawles and his followers call "the American Redoubt" is probably fairly safe for an out WN. There are fair numbers of them in Idaho, in Montana west of I-5 and in the environs of Spokane, to the extent that there are "fair numbers" of them at all.

    Basically, all the WN movements in the US put together have about one or two percent of the financial resources of the Los Angeles chapter of B'nai Brith. That includes organizations helmed by certified crazies and organizations widely and probably correctly identified as FBI, BATFE or SPLC/ADL fronts.

    The Northwest gets publicity because of the few remnants of people brought in by Aryan Nations decades ago and from Harold Covington, who heads what he calls the Northwest Front. Covington is a competent novelist who has well explained his vision of an independent Northwest American Republic in several good works of fiction (a lot better then CommaRawles' tech manuals thinly disguised as novels).

    One big problem WN has is not understanding that content creator and political leader are very different roles.

    Harold Covington seems to be a classic example of this, although I don’t actually know what the Northwest Fromt like on the ground.

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  97. Anti-Semitism Is Rising. Why Aren’t American Jews Speaking Up?

    And next week….Why are black women’s posteriors so svelte?

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  98. @3g4me
    "Ohio’s Republican state treasurer, Josh Mandel, who is Jewish, actually expressed support for two of the people on the list: Mike Cernovich and Jack Posobiec, conservative provocateurs who have found notoriety in the Trump era. …"

    How . . . unusual Mandel would specify those two individuals for approval. Cernovich, who may be Jewish himself (have seen conflicting info) is quite specifically NOT alt-right, believing in civic nationalism and the melting pot, and his 2nd wife is an Iranian Muslim. Posobiec is another questionable individual to much of the alt-right, both regarding his ethnicity and perceived government connections.

    Otherwise this is, of course, more of the standard persecution paranoia porn common among Jews in America; cue (((Tyrion2))) from England to explain how Weisman is really not saying what you think he's saying, Steve. He's really a super patriotic nationalist American who's writing a super-clever argument that actually advocates that which he theoretically denounces.

    The idea that anyone needs the approval of Jews in order to be legitimate is grotesque.

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  99. @Forbes
    Yes, it's all the fault of those "ordinary" people 80 years ago. It's funny (strange, not haha) how the stereotype about people prone to holding a grudge gets started... That may sound insensitive to tragedy, but last I checked the good guys defeated the bad guys in WW2. Wasn't that enough sacrifice?

    Problems in the present have causes in the present, inasmuch as they may seem like age-old issues. Weisman needs to learn to deal in the present, his mental health will thank him.

    For Jews, this is personal. Had ordinary Germans and Poles and Ukrainians and Austrians and Frenchmen not played along, had they continued to shop in Jewish establishments and visit Jewish doctors, the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final. …

    It’s at least possible that Jews in these places prior to WWII were acting like, well, Jews. In which case, who would risk life and limb (not to mention the lives and limbs of one’s own family) for a chance to save the guy who swindled you in business or who held your debt and with it a sword of Damocles over your head that you just can’t seem to escape despite paying the principal many times over?

    Perhaps it’s cold blooded but I think that any analysis of how “ordinary” Germans/Poles etc. behaved has to begin with the proposition that a people who consistently hold themselves out as a racially defined, chosen “other” and act in patterns of hostile/exploitative behavior towards their fellow man might not be able to rely upon his support in times of need.

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  100. So this wise guy walks into a bar
    Past the Guilt Police flashing their (((star))):
    “I’ll have Arbeit Macht Freis
    Well-salted with ‘Whys?’.
    Alas, I’ve no tip for the jar.”

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  101. There is a huge rise in anti Semitism. In Blacks and Muslims.

    We need our own anti White defamation league.

    We must push back on liberal Jews claiming non White status as honorary non Whites saying they are among the Whitest.

    And we need political judo … Encourage annexation of California and Texas by Mexico as a mass Mexican movement. Pit the deep state against the business oligarchs over territory.

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    Notice how the white elites in California, Texas, Arizona etc want JUST ENOUGH Latino presecnce to suppress white and black labor costs and union clout but just enough Asian and black presence to keep the Hispanics and Mexicans in particular from forming a dominant unitary political machine?
    , @Moses

    There is a huge rise in anti Semitism.
     
    I'm confused about the real meaning of this term. Would you mind sharing an objective definition of "anti-Semitism"?

    Is it any criticism of Jews, or just some kinds of criticism in certain contexts? Can it be defined objectively, or does it depend on subjective feelz?

    This is a serious question. I've never actually seen a cogent, objective, replicable definition of the term.

    The term is thrown around a lot. I want to know what it *means*.

    Thanks!
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  102. @Jay Fink
    I definitely think there has been a recent increase in antisemitism. I say that as someone who believes antisemitism barely existed in the U.S in my lifetime (until now). I base this on comments I am reading on a wide variety of websites and blogs. I have seen more antisemitic comments in the past year or so than the rest of my life put together.

    What do you think is causing people to criticize jews more than in the past?

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  103. @Anonym
    It's not like the Jews in the media have been exactly softly spoken. The volume is already at 11, and white people are becoming desensitized to it.

    Of course, it's never time to question whether all the chutzpah that created PC, took it and ran with it was a good idea. Because a genocidal push to cause whites to become a steadily dwindling minority in the world and in every white country was never going to get pushback, it was never going to be the midwife of a white identitarian movement.

    >Of course, it’s never time to question whether all the chutzpah that created PC, took it and ran with it was a good idea. Because a genocidal push to cause whites to become a steadily dwindling minority in the world and in every white country was never going to get pushback, it was never going to be the midwife of a white identitarian movement.

    Mass migration & PC are very successful ideas from a certain point of view. White identitarian movement is the last mournful bellow of the beast before death, not some sort of nascent birth.

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    Mass migration & PC are very successful ideas from a certain point of view. White identitarian movement is the last mournful bellow of the beast before death, not some sort of nascent birth.

    The Romans weren't able to wipe out the Jews despite basically pushing them into diaspora. There was certainly a lot of soul searching and going back to the drawing board after the Roman-Jewish wars. Of course, the Jews did have their religion which was a help, although it had to become portable.

    And look where the Jews are now. While they don't have the numbers of the Chinese, they have worked to occupy an enviable position of control. However, they are like the barking dog that has caught up with the car, and don't know what to do with it.

    We are about a billion strong and aren't going to die off suddenly like the passenger pigeon. We will learn, adapt, and fight back. The easiest and long-term effective method will be for our males to marry the best white women we can find, breed to our capacity and increase our ethnocentrism. We then succeed by the ballot box or the ammo box.

    From another perspective the "success" of PC and mass migration is utter retardation, tactical genius but strategic insanity. Jews had nice pliable dogs, through their own stupidity they are turning them into wolves.
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  104. “the Final Solution may, just may, not have been quite so final.”

    If the Final Solution was really “so final”, why do I still hear Weisman whining?

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  105. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Is there any difference between "chutzpah" and "startling lack of self awareness"? Asking for a friend.

    I have the impression that with chutzpah you know what you are doing.

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  106. hey white guys….. the New York times was invented to sell marked-up yoga pants to Jewish chicks.

    you’re wasting your time reading it. It’s focused on capturing THEIR shopping, not yours.

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  107. “especially when the rise of anti-Semitism is combined with hate crimes against Muslims, blacks, Hispanics and immigrants. ”

    What, no white victims? No hate crimes BY Muslims, blacks, Hispanics and immigrants? Anti-racism is about keeping white slaves, that’s all. It’s about preserving parasitic privilege and exploitation, not preventing victimization. And the end result of this exploitation is the utter destruction of the exploited. The tone of this piece is what you would have expected from a racist colonialist a century ago whining about the uppity natives daring to want to throw off their shackles and rule themselves. But HE’S the victim. Give me a break.

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  108. @Tiny Duck
    Jews will continue as a distinct people


    Your descendants will not look like you

    Just the other day at a restaurant I saw five old white couples with a mixed race child

    Huh? From Wikipedia:

    “A 2013 survey conducted in the United States by the Pew Research Center’s Religion & Public Life Project found the intermarriage rate to be 58% among all Jews and 71% among non-Orthodox Jews.”

    vs.

    “White Americans were statistically the least likely to wed interracially, though in absolute terms they were involved in interracial marriages more than any other racial group due to their demographic majority. 2.1% of married White women and 2.3% of married White men had a non-White spouse. 1.0% of all married White men were married to an Asian American woman, and 1.0% of married White women were married to a man classified as “other”.”

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    Poor Tiny! Even the white women in interracial relationships identify their significant other as "Other".
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  109. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    And right on time here comes the media to put your tropes about Jews and power in their proper context:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/dc-councilman-apologizes-for-saying-jews-control-the-weather.html

    Driving through a snow flurry Friday morning, Washington, D.C., councilman Trayon White Sr. filmed a brief video in which he advanced an age-old anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.

    “Man, it just started snowing out of nowhere this morning, man,” White Sr. said in the 20-second clip, which was first reported by the Washington Post. “Y’all better pay attention to this climate control, man, this climate manipulation. And D.C. keep talking about, ‘We a resilient city.’ And that’s a model based off the Rothschilds controlling the climate to create natural disasters they can pay for to own the cities, man. Be careful.”

    The Rothschilds, a European Jewish banking family who gained prominence during the 18th century, have long been the subject of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, which allege that the family is part of a shadowy cabal that manipulates world events.

    As anti-Semitism sentiment surges again in Europe and the U.S., echoes of this myth can be seen in similar ideas about Jewish financier George Soros, who right-wing extremists often cast as a puppetmaster-type villain.

    See? You’re a crazy person!

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    Indeed. That's a pretty high bar for being considered a puppet-master villain.

    Of course, Soros does fund all sorts of NGOs that lobby and wheedle for globalist, anti-nationalist causes. He has supported the innundation of Europe with refugees. He has backed BLM protests in America, heavily backs the Democratic Party, and funds an organization dedicated to putting people who think his way into Secretary of State and Attorney General offices around the country.

    But he's not controlling the weather, so..................not a puppet-master.
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  110. Has there been ever a time in the last 5,000 years when “anti-semitism” has not been “rising”?

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  111. @LondonBob
    I have many jewish friends and I just think it is very hard for Europeans to understand the level of hatred and paranoia, it isn't in our makeup.

    I agree twitter has enabled a vocal minority amongst us to give some back. Reminds me of the story of a bus load of journalists being jeered as they left from covering a Pat Buchanan rally and the Buchananites took the opportunity to show some hate back.

    My experience as well. An addendum to my previous comment re Ioffe. She is a Russian jew who came to the US as a kid. Something I’ve noticed about these relatively recent jewish arrivals from Eastern Europe and Russia. They’re not as careful in their language, less filtered. The jewish women are even worse than the men.

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  112. ! How about that.

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  113. @rogue-one
    >Of course, it’s never time to question whether all the chutzpah that created PC, took it and ran with it was a good idea. Because a genocidal push to cause whites to become a steadily dwindling minority in the world and in every white country was never going to get pushback, it was never going to be the midwife of a white identitarian movement.

    Mass migration & PC are very successful ideas from a certain point of view. White identitarian movement is the last mournful bellow of the beast before death, not some sort of nascent birth.

    Mass migration & PC are very successful ideas from a certain point of view. White identitarian movement is the last mournful bellow of the beast before death, not some sort of nascent birth.

    The Romans weren’t able to wipe out the Jews despite basically pushing them into diaspora. There was certainly a lot of soul searching and going back to the drawing board after the Roman-Jewish wars. Of course, the Jews did have their religion which was a help, although it had to become portable.

    And look where the Jews are now. While they don’t have the numbers of the Chinese, they have worked to occupy an enviable position of control. However, they are like the barking dog that has caught up with the car, and don’t know what to do with it.

    We are about a billion strong and aren’t going to die off suddenly like the passenger pigeon. We will learn, adapt, and fight back. The easiest and long-term effective method will be for our males to marry the best white women we can find, breed to our capacity and increase our ethnocentrism. We then succeed by the ballot box or the ammo box.

    From another perspective the “success” of PC and mass migration is utter retardation, tactical genius but strategic insanity. Jews had nice pliable dogs, through their own stupidity they are turning them into wolves.

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    >We are about a billion strong and aren’t going to die off suddenly like the passenger pigeon. We will learn, adapt, and fight back. The easiest and long-term effective method will be for our males to marry the best white women we can find, breed to our capacity and increase our ethnocentrism. We then succeed by the ballot box or the ammo box.

    I don't think you need such heroic or strange measures. Simply getting a majority of whites to agree to enforce the existing border and laws along with making housing in cities more affordable would be sufficient.

    That said, a majority (or at least a significant minority) of whites are completely and utterly opposed to borders. It isn't the jews that you should be really worried about, it is the white guilt.
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  114. @Anonymous
    And right on time here comes the media to put your tropes about Jews and power in their proper context:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/dc-councilman-apologizes-for-saying-jews-control-the-weather.html


    Driving through a snow flurry Friday morning, Washington, D.C., councilman Trayon White Sr. filmed a brief video in which he advanced an age-old anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.

    “Man, it just started snowing out of nowhere this morning, man,” White Sr. said in the 20-second clip, which was first reported by the Washington Post. “Y’all better pay attention to this climate control, man, this climate manipulation. And D.C. keep talking about, ‘We a resilient city.’ And that’s a model based off the Rothschilds controlling the climate to create natural disasters they can pay for to own the cities, man. Be careful.”

    The Rothschilds, a European Jewish banking family who gained prominence during the 18th century, have long been the subject of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, which allege that the family is part of a shadowy cabal that manipulates world events.

    As anti-Semitism sentiment surges again in Europe and the U.S., echoes of this myth can be seen in similar ideas about Jewish financier George Soros, who right-wing extremists often cast as a puppetmaster-type villain.
     

    See? You're a crazy person!

    Indeed. That’s a pretty high bar for being considered a puppet-master villain.

    Of course, Soros does fund all sorts of NGOs that lobby and wheedle for globalist, anti-nationalist causes. He has supported the innundation of Europe with refugees. He has backed BLM protests in America, heavily backs the Democratic Party, and funds an organization dedicated to putting people who think his way into Secretary of State and Attorney General offices around the country.

    But he’s not controlling the weather, so………………not a puppet-master.

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  115. @Giant Duck
    Huh? From Wikipedia:

    "A 2013 survey conducted in the United States by the Pew Research Center’s Religion & Public Life Project found the intermarriage rate to be 58% among all Jews and 71% among non-Orthodox Jews."

    vs.

    "White Americans were statistically the least likely to wed interracially, though in absolute terms they were involved in interracial marriages more than any other racial group due to their demographic majority. 2.1% of married White women and 2.3% of married White men had a non-White spouse. 1.0% of all married White men were married to an Asian American woman, and 1.0% of married White women were married to a man classified as "other"."

    Poor Tiny! Even the white women in interracial relationships identify their significant other as “Other”.

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  116. @tiny duck just curious, based on this picture, can you tell the difference between a regular Republican White politico and a Jewish Republican White politico?

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  117. @Anon
    However, sooner or later the idea of what you bring to survival, determines you worthiness; what can you do to protect against the avalanche? You have one life.

    What do you mean? Determines your worthiness in whose eyes? What avalanche?

    haha! It does seem like I just took a bong hit!

    What I meant: there are “bad” people, or incompetent/deceitful people in every ethnic or racial group; Jews are not perfect.

    I have gotten weary of Jews who insist on maintaining the idea that they are entitled to be an insular group; a group that needs boundaries from others; all others (especially white Christians), who they continue to view with contempt and trepidation. Jews seem to see themselves as morally superior to every other group (like caring more about illegal aliens than citizens; encouraging mass immigration from Muslim countries, Latin America, Africa instead of actually, caring about American poor of any race) and, lately, they are suspicious that Americans of European descent, the Deplorables, are out to get them; yet, they openly mock them, mock all conservatives, all Republicans, all Christians, all white people, especially males. The peddling of the White Privilege meme has backfired.

    I am sick of identitarian politics, grievance collecting, ever-expanding victimhood , because it has lead to division, which I guess, was the goal of globalists. This incessant push to suggest that diversity & multiculturalism is necessary, or even good, is so disingenuous since Jews still want to remain separated from all the other groups who are actively being coerced to give up their culture, traditions, beliefs, whatever they are. Oh, and that people of any means have a duty to pay for immigrants, illegals through their taxes…because hundreds of years ago, their ancestors benefited from “white privilege.”

    Because in the end, it leads to anarchy and nihilism as people compete for dwindling resources in a country that becomes more and more balkanized, while land/the environment gets degraded by development from massive population growth thru immigration.

    You only have resources and enough time to nurture your own family, or small group, and, religious identity is not going to matter one bit when an avalanche hits -admit that the avalanche metaphor was awkward: it is this dystopian world I envision; and, my fears of globalists, coastal elites, Neos, media who are pushing for nuclear war with Russia.

    And, I did mean just an avalanche…because you have to rely on yourself to survive – you have to be tough and brave because you have no choice. None of us can rely on some group-think identity nonsense anymore, because we are hard-wired to survive in small groups. Once nobody trusts institutions, govt, other people, all hell breaks loose. And, since I have children, I am very concerned about survival. Yeah, I know, I have become very cynical. I do live in my own bubble, however :) .

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  118. They really do believe their own BS don’t they??

    Hey crybabies, ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?

    That sums up the situation you’ve gotten yourself into here.

    The blowback of calling folks racists, anti-semites, Nazis, Hitlers, losers, white trash, for the past few decades is starting now.Projecting your own crimes and hatred onto others. Our black brothers are waking up too, thanks to folks like Farrakhan.

    Price to pay for having to entirely to much unearned privilege, power, control, and money.

    I would be worried too..

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  119. @dearieme
    If there really were an overpowering conspiracy of Jews to run the world, they would ensure that chumps such as Jonathan Weisman kept his trap shut. He doesn't so there isn't.

    If muscle tissue were centrally controlled, there would be no cramps.

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  120. @Whiskey
    There is a huge rise in anti Semitism. In Blacks and Muslims.

    We need our own anti White defamation league.

    We must push back on liberal Jews claiming non White status as honorary non Whites saying they are among the Whitest.

    And we need political judo ... Encourage annexation of California and Texas by Mexico as a mass Mexican movement. Pit the deep state against the business oligarchs over territory.

    Notice how the white elites in California, Texas, Arizona etc want JUST ENOUGH Latino presecnce to suppress white and black labor costs and union clout but just enough Asian and black presence to keep the Hispanics and Mexicans in particular from forming a dominant unitary political machine?

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  121. How about we call it for what it really is instead?

    The Defamation League

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  122. @Dr. X

    But American Jews need to assert a voice in the public arena...
     
    I'm just f-ing speechless...

    That's like saying blacks need to assert a role in the NBA.

    Next they’ll be complaining about the critical shortage of Asian computer programmers.

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  123. Anyone who thinks there is more anti-semitism now than 20 or 40 years ago is delusional.

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    Can anyone actually define "anti-semitism" objectively?

    Is it any criticism of Jews? Or just sometimes, in certain contexts?

    Serious question. No one will answer. Weird.
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  124. And per the NY POST, you White men better start loving and accepting obese White women, too, or ELSE:

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/19/curvy-instagrammer-wont-apologize-for-hot-husband/

    She will be divorced in a year or two, but we won’t HEAR that. This is to help White men get over their retch-factor and wife UP those fatties! Meanwhile, he can’t bear to touch her even. Not in public!

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    This woman (these women?) is not obese, she may be slightly plump. She's about the size of Rubens' Aphrodite.

    This is to help White men get over their retch-factor and wife UP those fatties!
     
    White women have this same problem.

    Like some commenter upstream says, it really doesn't make you any more "alpha" to put down random women on the internet.
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  125. @Whiskey
    There is a huge rise in anti Semitism. In Blacks and Muslims.

    We need our own anti White defamation league.

    We must push back on liberal Jews claiming non White status as honorary non Whites saying they are among the Whitest.

    And we need political judo ... Encourage annexation of California and Texas by Mexico as a mass Mexican movement. Pit the deep state against the business oligarchs over territory.

    There is a huge rise in anti Semitism.

    I’m confused about the real meaning of this term. Would you mind sharing an objective definition of “anti-Semitism”?

    Is it any criticism of Jews, or just some kinds of criticism in certain contexts? Can it be defined objectively, or does it depend on subjective feelz?

    This is a serious question. I’ve never actually seen a cogent, objective, replicable definition of the term.

    The term is thrown around a lot. I want to know what it *means*.

    Thanks!

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    Yep, crickets.

    I think Jews WANT to keep the definition of "anti-semitic" a vague and sinister-sounding slur. More useful that way.
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  126. @Anonymous
    Anyone who thinks there is more anti-semitism now than 20 or 40 years ago is delusional.

    Can anyone actually define “anti-semitism” objectively?

    Is it any criticism of Jews? Or just sometimes, in certain contexts?

    Serious question. No one will answer. Weird.

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    It always seemed to me that strict antisemites (nowadays a small minority, which is good) hate Jews wholly as a group and constantly - stoked however by specific situations where a Jewish person was at fault for something that the antisemite resents, with varying degrees of whether or not Judaism and/or Hebrew culture (by ext. modern Israel) is at fault by its own nature.

    Some people, a larger group, are only against certain aspects, so I don't know if that counts as "antisemite" - if so, not fully? Situational? However it is called. I'm not sure how to answer, and I'm a neutral party here, at any rate. Jews were only a few families in my original country (even then some did have money, but class is a bigger concern as the nationally imposed mestizo culture makes for less ethnic struggle). It's in bigger countries that I see more of the tension, outside of the mostly uniformly antisemite Muslim world. Even then most people have anecdotally mostly positive experiences with Jews, but not all - the latter do have some grievances. And viceversa? Many Zionists can be just as ethnically focused, if not more.

    At any rate, your question is certainly interesting, and I wish I could answer it better.

    , @ben tillman
    I've answered the question many times.

    Antisemitism = thoughts or deeds that are inconsistent with the proposition that, when the organized Jewish community and some other entity have a conflict of interest, that conflict of interest must be resolved in favor of the organized Jewish community.
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  127. @Anonym
    Mass migration & PC are very successful ideas from a certain point of view. White identitarian movement is the last mournful bellow of the beast before death, not some sort of nascent birth.

    The Romans weren't able to wipe out the Jews despite basically pushing them into diaspora. There was certainly a lot of soul searching and going back to the drawing board after the Roman-Jewish wars. Of course, the Jews did have their religion which was a help, although it had to become portable.

    And look where the Jews are now. While they don't have the numbers of the Chinese, they have worked to occupy an enviable position of control. However, they are like the barking dog that has caught up with the car, and don't know what to do with it.

    We are about a billion strong and aren't going to die off suddenly like the passenger pigeon. We will learn, adapt, and fight back. The easiest and long-term effective method will be for our males to marry the best white women we can find, breed to our capacity and increase our ethnocentrism. We then succeed by the ballot box or the ammo box.

    From another perspective the "success" of PC and mass migration is utter retardation, tactical genius but strategic insanity. Jews had nice pliable dogs, through their own stupidity they are turning them into wolves.

    >We are about a billion strong and aren’t going to die off suddenly like the passenger pigeon. We will learn, adapt, and fight back. The easiest and long-term effective method will be for our males to marry the best white women we can find, breed to our capacity and increase our ethnocentrism. We then succeed by the ballot box or the ammo box.

    I don’t think you need such heroic or strange measures. Simply getting a majority of whites to agree to enforce the existing border and laws along with making housing in cities more affordable would be sufficient.

    That said, a majority (or at least a significant minority) of whites are completely and utterly opposed to borders. It isn’t the jews that you should be really worried about, it is the white guilt.

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    It isn’t the jews that you should be really worried about, it is the white guilt.
     
    Amen to that.

    Whatever destructive policies Jews may or may not pursue (for reasons that may or may not seem valid to them) they would get nowhere at all without white guilt.

    I can't help thinking that Christianity, for all its undoubted virtues, has turned out to be a fatal weakness for the West. Even though we've abandoned Christianity as an actual religion it seems that we will never give up the guilt that Christianity taught us to feel.
    , @Anonym
    I don’t think you need such heroic or strange measures. Simply getting a majority of whites to agree to enforce the existing border and laws along with making housing in cities more affordable would be sufficient.

    It was you who said that "White identitarian movement is the last mournful bellow of the beast before death". So which is it? Desperate times call for desperate measures - a war of birth rates and ethnocentrism will work. I don't think the times are desperate yet, but very worrying. These times call for effective measures, and mine will be over a few generations. And when I put it in those terms, you don't like the idea because you know what I say is true.

    Instead you propose a non-solution. Cities are population sinks, as the recent Grauniad article shows and is fairly common knowledge here. And a slim majority of whites already do agree with enforcing the border and going further, build a wall. So status quo. Keep doing what you're doing while bellowing like the bull with its throat slit. Got it.

    Meanwhile myself and those like me will be having children and educating. We may have a marginal majority now, in a generation or two our majority will look like the sort of bloc voting that Mexicans, Jews or Blacks exhibit. These are the fruits of political correctness, may the harvest be bountiful.
    , @ben tillman

    That said, a majority (or at least a significant minority) of whites are completely and utterly opposed to borders.
     
    No. Only about three or four percent of whites are "are completely and utterly opposed to borders".
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  128. @rogue-one
    >We are about a billion strong and aren’t going to die off suddenly like the passenger pigeon. We will learn, adapt, and fight back. The easiest and long-term effective method will be for our males to marry the best white women we can find, breed to our capacity and increase our ethnocentrism. We then succeed by the ballot box or the ammo box.

    I don't think you need such heroic or strange measures. Simply getting a majority of whites to agree to enforce the existing border and laws along with making housing in cities more affordable would be sufficient.

    That said, a majority (or at least a significant minority) of whites are completely and utterly opposed to borders. It isn't the jews that you should be really worried about, it is the white guilt.

    It isn’t the jews that you should be really worried about, it is the white guilt.

    Amen to that.

    Whatever destructive policies Jews may or may not pursue (for reasons that may or may not seem valid to them) they would get nowhere at all without white guilt.

    I can’t help thinking that Christianity, for all its undoubted virtues, has turned out to be a fatal weakness for the West. Even though we’ve abandoned Christianity as an actual religion it seems that we will never give up the guilt that Christianity taught us to feel.

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    I can’t help thinking that Christianity, for all its undoubted virtues, has turned out to be a fatal weakness for the West. Even though we’ve abandoned Christianity as an actual religion it seems that we will never give up the guilt that Christianity taught us to feel

    Those of us having more than 2 children are more impervious to guilt.

    You are right though - white guilt is a weakness, a weakness that has been exploited and amplified. I have argued that it will be counterproductive to exploit in the long run, but that is what is happening and we will build a resistance to that attack.
    , @ben tillman

    Whatever destructive policies Jews may or may not pursue (for reasons that may or may not seem valid to them) they would get nowhere at all without white guilt.
     
    Which is why the Jewish community has worked assiduously to instil that guilt.
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  129. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    There’s less anti-semitism than in the past simply because of the increasing diversity of the population. History shows that Jews are in the greatest danger when they’re the only identifiable minority in an otherwise homogeneous population. That danger is past. It will never return.

    Hatreds that used to be focused on Jews are now directed against other groups, or else so widely diffused that they hardly touch Jews at all. You see this in Europe with historically anti-semitic groups like the BNP and FN which are now focused on Muslims and have little negative to say about Jews–if they don’t actually embrace Jews as friends and allies.

    If the Muslims suddenly all disappeared they would go back to hating Jews in a heartbeat.

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  130. @Tyrion 2

    I wish these people would make up their minds about whether IQ matters or not.
     
    You find the fact that not all Jews think the same to be disturbing?!? I thought the whole Jewish plot was that we all thought the same! I wish you'd make up your mind.

    My personal thoughts on the matter follow my father's, who occasionally said "2 Jews, 3 opinions".

    I think what he finds disturbing is that the very same people will say X when X favours them and not-X when X is unfavorable. The key being “the same people”, not different people from the same group disagreeing among themselves.

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  131. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/974354394811682816

    https://twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/974684168608206848

    I love how Rotkopf completely, absolutely, enragingly dodges the comment and goes strait to Russia conspiracy theory.

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  132. @Tyrion 2

    I wish these people would make up their minds about whether IQ matters or not.
     
    You find the fact that not all Jews think the same to be disturbing?!? I thought the whole Jewish plot was that we all thought the same! I wish you'd make up your mind.

    My personal thoughts on the matter follow my father's, who occasionally said "2 Jews, 3 opinions".

    Yeah, there’s liberal and conservarive Jews. So? Both have a lot of power and influence in their respective wings. Not to say they have THE power, but as having several wealthy individuals among them doing business together usually, they are part of the establishment. Not necessarily a reason to be antisemite – though obviously Jews root more for the more internationalist parties, which tend to be leftist (except in Israel, where Netanyahu is popular); therefore that gets them the Western Right’s hate some more. So I agree that there’s Jews with varying opinions, but most of the influential ones not so much, either left-liberal or neocon…

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  133. @Moses
    Can anyone actually define "anti-semitism" objectively?

    Is it any criticism of Jews? Or just sometimes, in certain contexts?

    Serious question. No one will answer. Weird.

    It always seemed to me that strict antisemites (nowadays a small minority, which is good) hate Jews wholly as a group and constantly – stoked however by specific situations where a Jewish person was at fault for something that the antisemite resents, with varying degrees of whether or not Judaism and/or Hebrew culture (by ext. modern Israel) is at fault by its own nature.

    Some people, a larger group, are only against certain aspects, so I don’t know if that counts as “antisemite” – if so, not fully? Situational? However it is called. I’m not sure how to answer, and I’m a neutral party here, at any rate. Jews were only a few families in my original country (even then some did have money, but class is a bigger concern as the nationally imposed mestizo culture makes for less ethnic struggle). It’s in bigger countries that I see more of the tension, outside of the mostly uniformly antisemite Muslim world. Even then most people have anecdotally mostly positive experiences with Jews, but not all – the latter do have some grievances. And viceversa? Many Zionists can be just as ethnically focused, if not more.

    At any rate, your question is certainly interesting, and I wish I could answer it better.

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    Thanks for giving it the ole college try. It certainly is a slippery definition with which to grapple, isn't it? Like fumbling with soap in a dark bath.

    It seems many consider "anti-Semite" to mean "any words or anyone crtitical of Jews." At any rate that seems a logical inference from its usage.

    Related thought -- I've always wondered why the expression isn't simply "anti-Jew" rather than "anti-Semite." Technically, "Semite" includes many non-Jewish peoples.

    Unless, of course, the intent is to give the slur a vague, pathological ring without invoking the loaded word "Jew."
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  134. I suppose this ridiculous overreaction and clueless statement is due to Rev. Farrakhan huh?

    But fortunately it won’t affect the support Idi Amin jr. gets from Jews next election…

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  135. @rogue-one
    >We are about a billion strong and aren’t going to die off suddenly like the passenger pigeon. We will learn, adapt, and fight back. The easiest and long-term effective method will be for our males to marry the best white women we can find, breed to our capacity and increase our ethnocentrism. We then succeed by the ballot box or the ammo box.

    I don't think you need such heroic or strange measures. Simply getting a majority of whites to agree to enforce the existing border and laws along with making housing in cities more affordable would be sufficient.

    That said, a majority (or at least a significant minority) of whites are completely and utterly opposed to borders. It isn't the jews that you should be really worried about, it is the white guilt.

    I don’t think you need such heroic or strange measures. Simply getting a majority of whites to agree to enforce the existing border and laws along with making housing in cities more affordable would be sufficient.

    It was you who said that “White identitarian movement is the last mournful bellow of the beast before death”. So which is it? Desperate times call for desperate measures – a war of birth rates and ethnocentrism will work. I don’t think the times are desperate yet, but very worrying. These times call for effective measures, and mine will be over a few generations. And when I put it in those terms, you don’t like the idea because you know what I say is true.

    Instead you propose a non-solution. Cities are population sinks, as the recent Grauniad article shows and is fairly common knowledge here. And a slim majority of whites already do agree with enforcing the border and going further, build a wall. So status quo. Keep doing what you’re doing while bellowing like the bull with its throat slit. Got it.

    Meanwhile myself and those like me will be having children and educating. We may have a marginal majority now, in a generation or two our majority will look like the sort of bloc voting that Mexicans, Jews or Blacks exhibit. These are the fruits of political correctness, may the harvest be bountiful.

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  136. @dfordoom

    It isn’t the jews that you should be really worried about, it is the white guilt.
     
    Amen to that.

    Whatever destructive policies Jews may or may not pursue (for reasons that may or may not seem valid to them) they would get nowhere at all without white guilt.

    I can't help thinking that Christianity, for all its undoubted virtues, has turned out to be a fatal weakness for the West. Even though we've abandoned Christianity as an actual religion it seems that we will never give up the guilt that Christianity taught us to feel.

    I can’t help thinking that Christianity, for all its undoubted virtues, has turned out to be a fatal weakness for the West. Even though we’ve abandoned Christianity as an actual religion it seems that we will never give up the guilt that Christianity taught us to feel

    Those of us having more than 2 children are more impervious to guilt.

    You are right though – white guilt is a weakness, a weakness that has been exploited and amplified. I have argued that it will be counterproductive to exploit in the long run, but that is what is happening and we will build a resistance to that attack.

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  137. @Moses

    There is a huge rise in anti Semitism.
     
    I'm confused about the real meaning of this term. Would you mind sharing an objective definition of "anti-Semitism"?

    Is it any criticism of Jews, or just some kinds of criticism in certain contexts? Can it be defined objectively, or does it depend on subjective feelz?

    This is a serious question. I've never actually seen a cogent, objective, replicable definition of the term.

    The term is thrown around a lot. I want to know what it *means*.

    Thanks!

    Yep, crickets.

    I think Jews WANT to keep the definition of “anti-semitic” a vague and sinister-sounding slur. More useful that way.

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  138. @Moses
    Can anyone actually define "anti-semitism" objectively?

    Is it any criticism of Jews? Or just sometimes, in certain contexts?

    Serious question. No one will answer. Weird.

    I’ve answered the question many times.

    Antisemitism = thoughts or deeds that are inconsistent with the proposition that, when the organized Jewish community and some other entity have a conflict of interest, that conflict of interest must be resolved in favor of the organized Jewish community.

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    That's a good definition. Put more simply, one could say: the refusal to consider Jewish interests as more important than your own.
    , @Moses
    Fair enough. Seems to fit the context of its usage rather well.

    But is that how the ADL or SPLC defines it?
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  139. @dfordoom

    It isn’t the jews that you should be really worried about, it is the white guilt.
     
    Amen to that.

    Whatever destructive policies Jews may or may not pursue (for reasons that may or may not seem valid to them) they would get nowhere at all without white guilt.

    I can't help thinking that Christianity, for all its undoubted virtues, has turned out to be a fatal weakness for the West. Even though we've abandoned Christianity as an actual religion it seems that we will never give up the guilt that Christianity taught us to feel.

    Whatever destructive policies Jews may or may not pursue (for reasons that may or may not seem valid to them) they would get nowhere at all without white guilt.

    Which is why the Jewish community has worked assiduously to instil that guilt.

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  140. @rogue-one
    >We are about a billion strong and aren’t going to die off suddenly like the passenger pigeon. We will learn, adapt, and fight back. The easiest and long-term effective method will be for our males to marry the best white women we can find, breed to our capacity and increase our ethnocentrism. We then succeed by the ballot box or the ammo box.

    I don't think you need such heroic or strange measures. Simply getting a majority of whites to agree to enforce the existing border and laws along with making housing in cities more affordable would be sufficient.

    That said, a majority (or at least a significant minority) of whites are completely and utterly opposed to borders. It isn't the jews that you should be really worried about, it is the white guilt.

    That said, a majority (or at least a significant minority) of whites are completely and utterly opposed to borders.

    No. Only about three or four percent of whites are “are completely and utterly opposed to borders”.

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  141. @Reg Cæsar

    Truth must also be defended...
     
    Of all the scolds on this forum, at least he tries to be entertaining.

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Truth

    I reckoned that Truth was the Vada Pinson of this board, as he connects about 2 out of 7 times. Then I looked it up, and Pinson’s career bating average was exactly .286. To top it off, Truth responded that he looks a lot like Vada Pinson. Try to top that for HBD insight!

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  142. @Disordered
    It always seemed to me that strict antisemites (nowadays a small minority, which is good) hate Jews wholly as a group and constantly - stoked however by specific situations where a Jewish person was at fault for something that the antisemite resents, with varying degrees of whether or not Judaism and/or Hebrew culture (by ext. modern Israel) is at fault by its own nature.

    Some people, a larger group, are only against certain aspects, so I don't know if that counts as "antisemite" - if so, not fully? Situational? However it is called. I'm not sure how to answer, and I'm a neutral party here, at any rate. Jews were only a few families in my original country (even then some did have money, but class is a bigger concern as the nationally imposed mestizo culture makes for less ethnic struggle). It's in bigger countries that I see more of the tension, outside of the mostly uniformly antisemite Muslim world. Even then most people have anecdotally mostly positive experiences with Jews, but not all - the latter do have some grievances. And viceversa? Many Zionists can be just as ethnically focused, if not more.

    At any rate, your question is certainly interesting, and I wish I could answer it better.

    Thanks for giving it the ole college try. It certainly is a slippery definition with which to grapple, isn’t it? Like fumbling with soap in a dark bath.

    It seems many consider “anti-Semite” to mean “any words or anyone crtitical of Jews.” At any rate that seems a logical inference from its usage.

    Related thought — I’ve always wondered why the expression isn’t simply “anti-Jew” rather than “anti-Semite.” Technically, “Semite” includes many non-Jewish peoples.

    Unless, of course, the intent is to give the slur a vague, pathological ring without invoking the loaded word “Jew.”

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  143. @ben tillman
    I've answered the question many times.

    Antisemitism = thoughts or deeds that are inconsistent with the proposition that, when the organized Jewish community and some other entity have a conflict of interest, that conflict of interest must be resolved in favor of the organized Jewish community.

    That’s a good definition. Put more simply, one could say: the refusal to consider Jewish interests as more important than your own.

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    That's a pretty good distillation.
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  144. How does Weisman expect Jews to “speak up” against “anti-semitism” when the so-called “anti-semitism” consists largely of online activists hitting people with fact after relentless fact? The only thing to do is wail about “anti-semitism,” which Jews are already past masters at. Any attempt to actually debate “anti-semites” will only see the “anti-semites” win.

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  145. @silviosilver
    That's a good definition. Put more simply, one could say: the refusal to consider Jewish interests as more important than your own.

    That’s a pretty good distillation.

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  146. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian
    And per the NY POST, you White men better start loving and accepting obese White women, too, or ELSE:

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/180319-husband-wife-trolled-01.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=642

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/180319-husband-wife-trolled-06_1024.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=432

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/19/curvy-instagrammer-wont-apologize-for-hot-husband/

    She will be divorced in a year or two, but we won't HEAR that. This is to help White men get over their retch-factor and wife UP those fatties! Meanwhile, he can't bear to touch her even. Not in public!

    This woman (these women?) is not obese, she may be slightly plump. She’s about the size of Rubens’ Aphrodite.

    This is to help White men get over their retch-factor and wife UP those fatties!

    White women have this same problem.

    Like some commenter upstream says, it really doesn’t make you any more “alpha” to put down random women on the internet.

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    Fat is fat when it comes to women, it's disgusting.. Alpha? That's PUA term. You must study Roosh. Women follow money, power and fame. They have a price. We know what they are, only the cost of doing business is to be considered with those sorts. And they absolutely cannot be fat. Check out the women of men of power, fame or wealth. Doesn't matter if the men are fat, only the women. And the women of those guys never tip the scales over 110 pounds. You would never admit it because you're a sensitive virtue-signaling sort toward fatties, but you prefer skinny too, you just can't GET skinny, so you conveniently say fat is beautiful. You know she's gross, we all do.

    This fatty on display, if she loses the bathing suit, you'd have to lift the hood of disgusting fat to get to her promised land. Notice the guy keeps his hands in his pockets. Even if he's married to her, he doesn't want to be seen actually TOUCHING her. You must be a chubby-chaser if you see beauty in this ham-planet..

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  147. @ben tillman
    I've answered the question many times.

    Antisemitism = thoughts or deeds that are inconsistent with the proposition that, when the organized Jewish community and some other entity have a conflict of interest, that conflict of interest must be resolved in favor of the organized Jewish community.

    Fair enough. Seems to fit the context of its usage rather well.

    But is that how the ADL or SPLC defines it?

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  148. @Anon
    This woman (these women?) is not obese, she may be slightly plump. She's about the size of Rubens' Aphrodite.

    This is to help White men get over their retch-factor and wife UP those fatties!
     
    White women have this same problem.

    Like some commenter upstream says, it really doesn't make you any more "alpha" to put down random women on the internet.

    Fat is fat when it comes to women, it’s disgusting.. Alpha? That’s PUA term. You must study Roosh. Women follow money, power and fame. They have a price. We know what they are, only the cost of doing business is to be considered with those sorts. And they absolutely cannot be fat. Check out the women of men of power, fame or wealth. Doesn’t matter if the men are fat, only the women. And the women of those guys never tip the scales over 110 pounds. You would never admit it because you’re a sensitive virtue-signaling sort toward fatties, but you prefer skinny too, you just can’t GET skinny, so you conveniently say fat is beautiful. You know she’s gross, we all do.

    This fatty on display, if she loses the bathing suit, you’d have to lift the hood of disgusting fat to get to her promised land. Notice the guy keeps his hands in his pockets. Even if he’s married to her, he doesn’t want to be seen actually TOUCHING her. You must be a chubby-chaser if you see beauty in this ham-planet..

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  149. Talk about chutzpah.

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