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From the Washington Post opinion section:

Why we were overdue for a fierce debate about anti-Semitism in America
By focusing mostly on the Holocaust, we have overlooked centuries of American anti-Semitism.

By Pamela S. Nadell

Pamela S. Nadell holds the Patrick Clendenen Chair in women’s and gender history at American University and is the author of “America’s Jewish Women: A History from Colonial Times to Today .”
March 7

Anti-Semitism is everywhere these days. … Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) intimates that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee pays politicians to support Israel and, more recently, wonders about people pushing for “allegiance to a foreign country,” triggering this week’s fierce debate about anti-Semitism in U.S. politics. …

Compelled to apologize for her first comments, Omar thanked Jews for “educating” her about “the painful history of anti-Semitic tropes.” But who, other than historians and some Jewish communal leaders, knows that history?

If only Jews could find the courage to finally speak up about the hushed-up subject of anti-Semitism.

When Americans think of anti-Semitism, they think of the Holocaust. …

This focus on the Holocaust gets Americans off the hook. …

But anti-Semitism is an American problem. … It is this history, which is rarely conveyed in classrooms or monuments, that we need to confront as a nation.

Anti-Semitism on U.S. soil goes back to Colonial days. In 1654, 23 Jews, fleeing the Inquisition that threatened to reach them in Brazil, landed in New Amsterdam, the Dutch colony that became New York. There, Gov. Peter Stuyvesant wanted to eject this “deceitful race — such hateful enemies and blasphemers of the name of Christ,” people he despised for “their customary usury and deceitful trading.”

Fortunately for these refugees, New Amsterdam’s Jewish leaders successfully interceded. Stuyvesant’s request that these new lands not “be infected by people of the Jewish nation” was denied.

But other Americans echoed Stuyvesant’s sentiments. ,… In 1862, during the Civil War, General Ulysses S. Grant expelled the “Jews, as a class,” from his military district. Although President Abraham Lincoln countermanded the order, the legacy of an expulsion on U.S. soil painfully echoed Jewish persecution across the ages.

… Anti-Semitism limited Jews’ access not only to hotels but also to social and professional clubs, private schools, camps and fraternities. …

Someday, reparations will be paid to members of the Hillcrest Country Club because their great-grandfathers couldn’t join the Los Angeles Country Club.

As I wrote in my new book, “America’s Jewish Women,” an anonymous “Jewess” described anti-Semitism’s impact on her family in a women’s magazine in 1942. Her daughter had planned to vacation with a friend, but the hotel told her that she wouldn’t find the right “company” there. …

If I were asked to help educate Omar, I would reflect less on the history of anti-Semitic tropes. Instead, I would focus on this history of anti-Semitic acts. They far better demonstrate why her Jewish colleagues are so worried about her education.

 
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  1. J.Ross says: • Website

    Let’s not get bogged down in questions of who killed who …

    • LOL: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Olorin
  2. a says:

    AIPAC doesn’t pay politicians to support Israel. That’s ridiculous. They blackmail them.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  3. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Anti-Semitism on U.S. soil goes back to Colonial days. In 1654, 23 Jews, fleeing the Inquisition that threatened to reach them in Brazil,

    What kind of business did Jews in Brazil?

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @syonredux
    , @notanon
  4. gman says:

    Off topic:

    Maybe Mickey Kaus should run in the Democratic 2020 Primary. If Andrew Yang (Universal Basic Income advocate) could get 65,000 donations which guarantees a spot in the debate, than surely Mickey could with iSteve/Coulter support. Would be nice to see the economic/wage impact of imprudent immigration discussed.

    • Replies: @Anon
  5. If only Jews could find the courage to finally speak up about the hushed-up subject of anti-Semitism.

    This is why I come to iSteve. To be able to smile–even to smirk–amid the destruction of my nation and civilization.

  6. Mr. Anon says:

    If only Jews could find the courage to finally speak up about the hushed-up subject of anti-Semitism.

    I heard there are a couple of new movies coming out on this topic, but they will probably only be shown in indie art house theaters. You know how those WASP Hollywood executives are.

    Gentleman’s Agreement

    Crossfire

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @BenKenobi
  7. If only Jews could find the courage to finally speak up about the hushed-up subject of anti-Semitism.

    If only Jews could find the decency to talk about all the other victims of NAZI death camps.

    • Agree: John Henry
    • Replies: @rufus
    , @SunBakedSuburb
  8. WaPo:

    Anti-Semitism on U.S. soil goes back to Colonial days.

    Commenter Jack D will likely mention how back in the day George Washington put in a good word for the Jews of Newport, Rhode Island.

    Just so you all know, there has been an update. (#349)

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Anon
  9. Since America is a country full of evil anti-Semites maybe the Jews should move to Israel for their own safety? It must be hellish for Jews to have to live in a nation so infested with Jew-haters as the USA. And since Americans are also mindless racists maybe blacks and Hispanics should leave as well before they end up getting lynched like poor Emmett Till.

  10. My general feeling is that this stuff is just weaponized propaganda, but there seem to be an incredible number of Jews who actually, deeply, viscerally believe this stuff.

    A couple very simple points:

    No one is actually entitled to have people like them. (I knew this as a little kid and i didn’t feel it was a great injustice just … reality.) Generally, you get people to like you by … being likeable!

    Beyond that, expecting or demanding that other groups be open, accepting, accomodating to you, when your group is closed, separatist, non-integrating is ridiculous.

  11. Anti-Semitism is everywhere these days…

    “These days”, the working definition of anti-Semitism seems to be, treating Jews as if they were white.

    In 1862, during the Civil War, General Ulysses S. Grant expelled the “Jews, as a class,” from his military district.

    I bet Secretary of War Judah P Benjamin didn’t do anything of the sort.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  12. Anti-Semitism is an American problem. … It is this history, which is rarely conveyed in classrooms or monuments, that we need to confront as a nation.

    Anti-Semitism on U.S. soil goes back to Colonial days.

    Far off, but getting closer, I hear the sound of reparations.

  13. @AnotherDad

    My general feeling is that this stuff is just weaponized propaganda, but there seem to be an incredible number of Jews who actually, deeply, viscerally believe this stuff.

    Well yeah–a number of them are regular contributors to this comment forum..

    • Replies: @njguy73
  14. Asagirian says: • Website

    Jewish Logic:

    Jews: “Favor all minorities. Listen to them!”

    Whites: “Will do. Hey Muslim, we are all ears.”

    Muslims/Palestinians: “Help us! Jews are beating us up.”

    Whites: “Hey Jews, stop beating up on Muslims.”

    Jews: “You anti-Semite!”

    • Replies: @Lurker
  15. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Speaking of oppression… didn’t whites gain possession of the New World because they conquered and committed ‘genocide’? In South America, tens of millions were killed by diseases. Most died of disease on North America too. And there was a massive slave trade. It was empire-building based on conquest, subjugation, war, and slave trade.

    Jews decided to take part in that and profit off it. They followed the white imperialists. They saw nothing wrong with profiting from an enterprise of conquest and empire. They eagerly joined in the Indigenocaust.
    But this nasty Jewish woman bitches about wrongs done to her people.

    If Jews were really decent and sensitive, they would NOT have joined in the white conquest of the New World. Nor would they have taken part in the British Empire by selling tons of opium to the Chinese.

    Jews were partners in historical ‘crime’. What Jews faced in the New World was NOTHING compared to what happened to the natives. Jews always worked with whites and did nothing for Indians. Jews need to shut up.

  16. It beggars the mind. I dont have the reference handy, but one of the early sheriff’s in AZ (Phonenix, I think) was a jew. There’s a pic of the guy with his son, both dressed up in Western duds, guns in hand. Probably many more examples.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @MEH 0910
    , @fnn
  17. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    I think this is a specific instance of the general elevation of victimhood in America, which started with what, John McCain on crutches?

    In reality, your race or ethnicity alone is never a real handicap in America. Certainly no one would suggest that there’s been more discrimination against Jews in America than blacks historically, and yet there is literally no ceiling on what a talented black person can achieve in America. We’ve had a black president, black Supreme Court justices, black CEOs of our largest corporations, beloved black athletes, musicians, TV and movie stars, etc.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  18. JimDandy says:

    Yeah, If it wasn’t for the scourge of anti-semitism, Jews would be a LOT more successful and influential in America.

  19. syonredux says:

    Anti-Semitism on U.S. soil goes back to Colonial days.

    So does Anti-Catholicism…..

    In 1654, 23 Jews, fleeing the Inquisition that threatened to reach them in Brazil, landed in New Amsterdam, the Dutch colony that became New York.

    Doesn’t that mean that we get to blame it on the bloody Dutchmen?

    But other Americans echoed Stuyvesant’s sentiments. ,… In 1862, during the Civil War, General Ulysses S. Grant expelled the “Jews, as a class,” from his military district. Although President Abraham Lincoln countermanded the order, the legacy of an expulsion on U.S. soil painfully echoed Jewish persecution across the ages.

    General Order No. 11….Which was, as you note, countermanded by Lincoln, who did not countermand the other General Order No. 11:

    General Order No. 11 is the title of a Union Army directive issued during the American Civil War on August 25, 1863, forcing the evacuation of rural areas in four counties in western Missouri. The order, issued by Union General Thomas Ewing, Jr., affected all rural residents regardless of their allegiance. Those who could prove their loyalty to the Union were permitted to stay in the affected area, but had to leave their farms and move to communities near military outposts (see villagization). Those who could not do so had to vacate the area altogether.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Order_No._11_(1863)

    And as for the Civil War in general….Well, let’s just say that the Confederacy displayed a fair degree of Judeophilia ……

    Judah Philip Benjamin, QC (August 11, 1811 – May 6, 1884) was a lawyer and politician who was a United States Senator from Louisiana, a Cabinet officer of the Confederate States and, after his escape to the United Kingdom at the end of the American Civil War, an English barrister. Benjamin was the first Jew to be elected to the United States Senate who had not renounced that faith, and was the first Jew to hold a Cabinet position in North America. He was successively the Attorney General, Secretary of War, and Secretary of State of the Confederate States of America.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_P._Benjamin

    The flag that Miles had favored when he was chairman of the “Committee on the Flag and Seal” eventually became the battle flag and, ultimately, the most popular flag of the Confederacy. According to Museum of the Confederacy Director John Coski, Miles’ design was inspired by one of the many “secessionist flags” flown at the South Carolina secession convention in Charleston of December 1860. That flag was a blue St George’s Cross (an upright or Latin cross) on a red field, with 15 white stars on the cross, representing the slaveholding states,[38][39] and, on the red field, palmetto and crescent symbols. Miles received a variety of feedback on this design, including a critique from Charles Moise, a self-described “Southerner of Jewish persuasion.” Moise liked the design but asked that “…the symbol of a particular religion not be made the symbol of the nation.” Taking this into account, Miles changed his flag, removing the palmetto and crescent, and substituting a heraldic saltire (“X”) for the upright cross. The number of stars was changed several times as well. He described these changes and his reasons for making them in early 1861. The diagonal cross was preferable, he wrote, because “it avoided the religious objection about the cross (from the Jews and many Protestant sects), because it did not stand out so conspicuously as if the cross had been placed upright thus.” He also argued that the diagonal cross was “more Heraldric [sic] than Ecclesiastical, it being the ‘saltire’ of Heraldry, and significant of strength and progress.”[40]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#National_flags

    … Anti-Semitism limited Jews’ access not only to hotels but also to social and professional clubs, private schools, camps and fraternities. …

    The horror, the horror…

    As I wrote in my new book, “America’s Jewish Women,” an anonymous “Jewess” described anti-Semitism’s impact on her family in a women’s magazine in 1942. Her daughter had planned to vacation with a friend, but the hotel told her that she wouldn’t find the right “company” there.

    Kinda think that a Christian would have been told something similar in regards to a vacation in the Borscht Belt….

  20. istevefan says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Left out of that quote from Washington’s letter is this:

    May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants;

    That seems like an important qualification, and something that is subject to periodic reevaluation.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @res
    , @njguy73
  21. Paul says:

    “In 1862, during the Civil War, General Ulysses S. Grant expelled the “Jews, as a class,” from his military district.”

    Unsurprisingly, Pamela S. Nadell fails to mention that General Grant expelled the Jews because they persisted in trading with the South. To use her own words: “It is this history, which is rarely conveyed in classrooms or monuments, that we need to confront as a nation.”

    • Replies: @TheJester
  22. eah says:

    More reparations.

    State Dept. Drops ‘Occupied Territories’ from Judea, Samaria, Gaza & Golan Heights in Annual Report

    For the first time ever, the U.S. State Department dropped the term “occupied territories” from its headline referring to the Golan Heights, Judea, Samaria and Gaza in its annual global human rights report, released Wednesday by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

  23. “Fortunately for these refugees, New Amsterdam’s Jewish leaders successfully interceded.

    Stuyvesant’s request that these new lands not “be infected by people of the Jewish nation” was denied.”

    Even the Ole Webster knows that interceding ain’t your friend, America.

    Recent Examples on the Web:

    If Sabraw doesn’t intercede on the ACLU’s behalf, family reunification could be followed very swiftly by family deportations and family re-separations. — Dara Lind, Vox, “At court deadline, more than half of separated migrant families have been reunited,” 27 July 2018

    Once Justice Marshall’s court established its role interceding in a political dispute, the road to our current political fight over the courts was open. — WSJ, “The Senate Has Flexibility on Confirmations,” 10 Oct. 2018

    Advocates hope the courts intercede to save the dreamers. — James Hohmann, Washington Post, “The Daily 202: Immigration failure shows the ideologues are ascendant in the Trump White House,” 16 Feb. 2018

    Prosecutors had alleged that Mr. Menendez helped secure visas for the foreign mistresses of his friend and supporter Dr. Salomon Melgen, and interceded with Medicare officials investigating his practice. — Julie Bykowicz, WSJ, “Down-Ballot Democrats Prop Up Menendez,” 9 Oct. 2018

    And the entire hearing was constantly interrupted by Democrats who kept interceding in the proceedings and making sure he, the witness did not have to speak. — Fox News, “Kavanaugh confirmation fight looms over midterm elections,” 15 July 2018

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intercede#examples

  24. ” In 1862, during the Civil War, General Ulysses S. Grant expelled the “Jews, as a class,” from his military district. ”

    Apparently it is not worth pointing out that they were backing (and in some cases running) the Confederacy, and that Grant was aghast at the fact that they were circumventing the economic blockade.

    Nope, not a peep about that issue.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  25. @istevefan

    You’re not supposed to notice that part.

  26. istevefan says:

    In 1862, during the Civil War, General Ulysses S. Grant expelled the “Jews, as a class,” from his military district.

    Did Grant just do this on a whim? Or was he trying to stop the Confederates from selling their cotton in the Western theater? And who was helping them circumvent this embargo, and thus prolonging rebel resistance in that area?

  27. @Anon

    Jews really don’t like to talk about the Jewish role in South Africa.

  28. Gov. Peter Stuyvesant wanted to eject this “deceitful race — such hateful enemies and blasphemers of the name of Christ,” people he despised for “their customary usury and deceitful trading.”

    Such perspicacity, that one. Plus, my neighbor’s friend’s Aunt Gladys was once subject to an anti-semitic remark back in the 1940s, I think it was. And did I mention Rep. Omar? And you! What are you looking at? And did I mention Rep. Omar?

  29. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Jews also tend to not like being told about the Jewish role in the establishment of the sugar trade in Brazil….

  30. triggering this week’s fierce debate about anti-Semitism in U.S. politics

    There was a debate? Where? What were the two sides in this debate?

    • Replies: @res
  31. @J.Ross

    IKR? This is supposed to be a happy occasion.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
  32. “Fortunately for these refugees, New Amsterdam’s Jewish leaders successfully interceded.

    Stuyvesant’s request that these new lands not “be infected by people of the Jewish nation” was denied.”

    The only book that construes this phenomena better than ‘Two Hundred Years Together’ is yet to be published ‘Four Hundred Years Together’.

    Because well-chosen histrionics always double-down on the original script.

  33. Svigor says:

    It’s a complete mystery, why the history of the Jews is so lachrymose.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  34. syonredux says:
    @Anon

    Anti-Semitism on U.S. soil goes back to Colonial days. In 1654, 23 Jews, fleeing the Inquisition that threatened to reach them in Brazil,

    What kind of business did Jews in Brazil?

    The first Jewish families arrived in Recife in 1635, when Pernambuco was under Dutch rule, had fewer than 10,000 inhabitants and was the richest Brazilian captaincy. Pursued by the Catholic Inquisition in the Iberian Peninsula, they came attracted by the religious freedom that the Dutch began to settle on land taken from Portugal.

    In Recife, the Jews entered the branch of the trade that would soon dominate: during the rule of Count Maurice of Nassau, for example, they controlled 40% of sugar exports sugar from Pernambuco to the Netherlands and Germany.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Pernambuco#Jews_in_Pernamb

    The history of the Jews in Brazil is a rather long and complex one, as it stretches from the very beginning of the European settlement in the new continent. Jews started settling in Brazil ever since the Inquisition reached Portugal in the 16th century. They arrived in Brazil during the period of Dutch rule, setting up in Recife the first synagogue in the Americas as early as 1636. Most of those Jews were Sephardic Jews who had fled the Inquisition in Spain and Portugal to the religious freedom of the Netherlands. Adam Smith attributed much of the development of Brazil’s sugar industry and cultivation to the arrival of Portuguese Jews who were forced out of Portugal during the inquisition.[3]

    Brazil >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Brazil

    When the Inquisition in Portugal took hold in 1497, Jews fled to places throughout the world, including Brazil. They arrived in Brazil primarily as New Christians or Conversos (Jews converted to Christianity), but many secretly practiced Judaism and began a colonization drive to settle on the land. Despite continued persecution by the Brazilian Inquisition, the New Christians successfully established sugar plantations and mills. By 1624, approximately 50,000 Europeans lived in Brazil, with New Christians making up a significant percentage. They were businessmen, importers, exporters, teachers, writers poets, even priests. In that same year, Dutch forces arrived in Brazil, taking over portions of northeast Brazil. Dutch tolerance allowed for Jewish migration and the open practice of religion. In 1636, Jews built the Kahal Zur synagogue in the Dutch capital of Recife.

    In Dutch Brazil, Jews flourished in the sugar industry, tax farming and slave trade. Jews often purchased slaves and resold them at great profit.

    Brazil.html >http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Brazil.html

    Historical records in Brazil and Amsterdam show Jews helped build the sugar industry, roads, bridges, and a basic sewage system in the northeast. Many also made money by trading slaves.

    At its height in 1645, the Jewish community in Recife counted 1,630 members, the same number as in the thriving Jewish community of Amsterdam, according to Dutch historian Franz Leonard Schalkwijk.

    “The economic dominance of the Jews prompted various protests [from Catholics and Protestants],” wrote Schalkwijk in his book “Church and State in Dutch Brazil.”

    brazilian-town-recife-considered-oldest-in-the-americas-1.233058 >http://www.haaretz.com/news/synagogue-in-brazilian-town-recife-considered-oldest-in-the-americas-1.233058

    Jews played an important role here on Barbados, he explained — and perhaps one far greater than is widely acknowledged. When the Jews first arrived in the 1640s, they were experts in sugar production. Back then, the business of Barbados was sugar, and its fermented byproduct, rum. Which in turn lubricates tourism, the business of Barbados today […..]

    Meanwhile, Spain had laid claim to the entire New World, including the Caribbean, which the other world powers contested. Holland, and later England, pragmatically allowed “New Christians” (who had wealth, international trade connections and a hatred of Spain) to settle in the colonies they wrested from the Spanish. In Dutch Brazil, the now openly-practicing Jews entered the sugar trade in a big way, and a few even ventured to British-controlled Barbados, whose climate was also suited to sugar. Many more arrived after the Portuguese recaptured Brazil in 1654 — immediately expelling the Jews.

    They called Barbados the land of Coconut Milk and Sugar Cane, and they planned to stay. They built a Synagogue, and a mikvah — the latter only discovered last year in the Synagogue’s parking lot by University of West Indies archaeologist Michael Stoner. (See the mikvah here.) By the mid 1700s, the Jewish community numbered as many as 800. A small number, to be sure, on an island whose population was about 80,000, but the history of the Jewish people is one of outsized influence. Could Barbados be yet another example?[….]

    Hmmm. I thought back to the Nidhe Israel Museum, with its wall-sized timeline of Jewish life from 1600-2000. For 1644 and 1654: “Jews are sugar experts for British settlers.” What was that about?

    This, it seems, stretches back to when the Sephardim were running their sugar plantations in Brazil. Barbados’ most elite planters watched what the Jewish planters were successfully doing in Brazil, and borrowed their technology. For instance, James Drax, an elite Barbadian planter who worked more than 700 acres in Barbados, visited the Sephardic colony in Brazil in 1640, and brought back with him two key innovations: a triple-roller sugar mill for crushing the sugar cane, and copper cauldrons for boiling the cane juice to get crystals, writes Ian Williams in his book Rum. (Nation Books, 2005). Williams credits the Jews for transferring that technology to Barbados, which they likely did as investors in sugar plantations they did not own. Watson’s ledgers show both investments in sugar plantations and certainly, handling the trade in sugar after it was harvested.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alison-stein-wellner/jewish-barbados-tracking_b_174758.html

  35. @Mr. Anon

    Hadn’t heard of “Crossfire” so looked it up. Was surprised that the novel was written by a goy. Found the reason why in the user comments:

    A bigoted soldier kills a man for being Jewish and tries to pin it on a fellow soldier. Not as good as the novel it was based on (“The Brick Foxhole”) in which it was a gay man who was killed…but Hollywood wouldn’t touch that in 1947.

    So the original story was ‘commandeered’ for a better purpose. Not unusual.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  36. @syonredux

    She leaves out that these Brazilian slave masters were renowned for their cruelty.
    We’ll just hire Quentin Tarantino to put the blame on Whitey.

  37. These living fossils called “Jews” need to follow their own psychotherapists’ advice and get over themselves.

  38. syonredux says:
    @Anon

    In terms of inhumanity (from least to most inhumane), the ranking order for slavery goes something like this:

    House slave

    Tobacco Plantation

    Cotton Plantation

    Sugar Plantation

    Mine slavery

    Life for a slave on a sugar plantation or in a mine was nasty, brutish, and short….

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
    , @Art
  39. Gov. Peter Stuyvesant wanted to eject this “deceitful race — such hateful enemies and blasphemers of the name of Christ,” people he despised for “their customary usury and deceitful trading.” Fortunately for these refugees, New Amsterdam’s Jewish leaders successfully interceded. Stuyvesant’s request that these new lands not “be infected by people of the Jewish nation” was denied.

    But other Americans echoed Stuyvesant’s sentiments. ,… In 1862, during the Civil War, General Ulysses S. Grant expelled the “Jews, as a class,” from his military district. Although President Abraham Lincoln countermanded the order, the legacy of an expulsion on U.S. soil painfully echoed Jewish persecution across the ages.

    So Americans are to blame for an expulsion of Jewish “refugees” from New York…that didn’t happen; and for an expulsion of Jews from Grant’s military district…that didn’t happen.

    I say this chick Pamela needs to look around harder…for a lot of other shit that didn’t happen. I mean just think of all the terrible shit that didn’t happen that she could blame us for.

    By the way, Pamela, Israel is surrounded by a crapload of countries currently throwing off a lot of non-Jewish refugees. How many of them has Israel taken in? Asking for a friend.

  40. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Commenter Jack D will likely mention how back in the day George Washington put in a good word for the Jews of Newport, Rhode Island.

    And the statutory protection of their avuncular marriages.

    Prohibited Marriages

    Bigamous; marriage where either party is mentally incompetent at time of marriage absolutely void; between ancestor and descendant, stepparent and stepchild, parent-in-law and son- or daughter-in-law; parent or parent-in-law and son- or daughter-in-law, brother and sister, uncle and niece, aunt and nephew; special exceptions for Jewish marriages allowed by Jewish religious law

    https://statelaws.findlaw.com/rhode-island-law/rhode-island-annulment-and-prohibited-marriage-laws.html

    • Replies: @Jack D
  41. @South Texas Guy

    one of the early sheriff’s in AZ (Phonenix, I think) was a jew. There’s a pic of the guy with his son, both dressed up in Western duds, guns in hand.

    As Roseanne Barr said of her Jewish cowboy grandfather, “Yippy-aye-oh-chay-yay!”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  42. @syonredux

    White slave owners in the Caribbean and in the American South had no trouble finding white women who wanted to marry them and bear their children, despite current nonsense about women’s superior “empathy” and conscience about social injustice. You probably couldn’t find an incel among them. Slave owners apparently had at least a bit of that “bad boy” thing going for them that women find irresistible.

  43. Bill B. says:

    Strangely Foreign Policy is running a similar story of how bigotry runs in the weft of the United States’ DNA.

    “Trope”…”subtext”…”narrative”…”pernicious” … “troll” … “lightning rods for hate”…

    Although here Omar is the victim and Islamophobia is the problem.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/13/islamophobes-came-for-americans-on-the-campaign-trail/

    Foreign Policy is an increasingly useless resource. (It is currently predicting utter doom for the UK as a pariah trading nation; not apparently knowing that WTO rules will apply as is normal.)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @J.Ross
  44. “Fortunately for these refugees, New Amsterdam’s Jewish leaders successfully interceded.

    Stuyvesant’s request that these new lands not “be infected by people of the Jewish nation” was denied.”

    A well-documented interceding for the undocumented tribal reinforcement :

    Freedom of religion was further tested when Stuyvesant refused to allow Jewish refugees, from Dutch Brazil, to settle permanently in New Amsterdam (without passports) and join the existing community of Jews (with passports from Amsterdam).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Stuyvesant#Religious_freedom

    “Freedom of religion was further tested” = Passports-Shmassports, Stuyvesant-Shmoyvesant, Governer-Shmoverner, and Um-Shmum Your Goyish Lex ad nauseam.

  45. Anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @gman

    Mickey in the debate? That would be a bad idea. Check out his latest appearance with Robert Wright on Bloggingheads. He’s incoherent, looks like a homeless guy, and he can’t afford the paid version of his vlogging software, so every few minutes to it goes into demo mode and maps his face onto a cube tbat spins around, explodes, and then suddenly Mickey’s face is a Dali painting sliding of the edge of a table.

    I think he’s burned through his savings since the infamous “What the Hell Happened to Mickey Kaus” Buzzfeed article in 2015. He spends all his time on Twitter, and most of his tweets are incomprehensible.

    • Agree: Change that Matters
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  46. @Dave Pinsen

    Remember Dave, Barack Obama is half white, so we’re only halfway to electing our First Black President.

  47. @Bill B.

    I’m confused. Is “Islamophobia” a meme cooked up by CAIR and embraced by SPLC, or was it cooked up by SPLC and embraced by CAIR?

    Come to think of it, it was cooked up by the founder himself:

    If you will not go forth to fight in the cause of Allah, He will punish you with a painful punishment, and will choose in your stead a people other than you, and you shall do Him no harm at all.

  48. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:

    *THE* Golden Rule of 21st century American politics:

    “When in doubt, kick Whitey”.

  49. “… anti-Semitism is an American problem ….”

    But is it a stimulus or a response ?

  50. If only Jews could find the courage to finally speak up about the hushed-up subject of anti-Semitism.

    Thank goodness they have the courage to speak about undermining America: New class on U.S. Jewish communists, anarchists and socialists of the 20th century, from The Jewish News of Northern California yesterday.

    They may not be household names, but if Elaine Leeder has any say, then Pauline Newman, Rose Pesotta, Rose Schneiderman, Clara Lemlich and Fannia Cohn will soon be as familiar as Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Janet Yellen.

    In “American Jewish Radicals,” a free, four-session course on important women and men in the labor and social justice movements starting March 20 at the Osher Marin JCC, the former sociology professor will aim to demonstrate that Newman, Pesotta and their cohorts were as influential in their day — the first half of the 20th century — as a Supreme Court justice (Ginsburg) and a former chair of the Federal Reserve (Yellen) are in contemporary America.

    https://www.jweekly.com/2019/03/13/new-class-on-u-s-jewish-communists-anarchists-and-socialists-of-the-20th-century/

    Does fighting socialism make you antisemitic?

  51. @Reg Cæsar

    Roseanne Barr’s ancestor’s cowboy call was the funniest thing I ever heard on NPR back in the 1980s. Was that the source of Bruce Willis’s Yippee Ky Ay line in “Die Hard”?

  52. @syonredux

    Brazilian sugar plantations were not nice places.

  53. @syonredux

    What could be a worse fate in 1942 that not getting one’s first choice of vacation resort? I’m sure all those Marines who vacationed on Guadalcanal that year were there because that was their dream resort.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    , @Jack D
    , @SF
    , @syonredux
  54. Hank Yobo says:
    @syonredux

    Isn’t the “heraldic saltire” just a fancy way of saying “St. Andrew’s Cross” i.e. the one blazoned on the Scottish flag, the Russian Naval Ensign, and the first element of the Union Jack? It has profound Christian religious significance. Well, you can’t expect Americans–Confederate or otherwise–to be very knowledgeable about heraldry.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  55. Pamela Nadell:

    This is the blurb from her website, as seen from the search page of duckduckgo:

    “In America’s Jewish Women, Pamela Nadell has done what would seem undoable: she has turned the diverse life stories of dozens of women across centuries of time into a mesmerizing whole. This is a book to read and reread, then sit back and contemplate, with a smile, the wondrous achievements of Jewish women in America.”

    I bet she’s big fun at parties. Big.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  56. ic1000 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    1942, choices of vacation resorts, Pacific island getaway packages…

    Is there something special about that year in history? If so, Full Professor Pamela S. Nadell PhD (holder of the endowed Patrick Clendenen Chair in women’s and gender history), the WaPo OpEd Page editor, and I, are all unaware of its importance. Apparently.

  57. @Anon

    I’m sure they were forced to.

  58. @Joe Walker

    Since America is a country full of evil anti-Semites maybe the Jews should move to Israel for their own safety?

    Come on, their job is not finished. There is wealth to be siphoned off and remnants of Christian culture to subvert and destroy. I mean, it’s not like post-birth abortion and the banning of public display of Christian symbols is the law of the land yet.

  59. Anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:
    @jbwilson24

    Apparently it is not worth pointing out that they were backing (and in some cases running) the Confederacy, and that Grant was aghast at the fact that they were circumventing the economic blockade.

    Nope, not a peep about that issue.

    Makes one wonder what other parts of history they lie about or cover up.

  60. Anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Jews really don’t like to talk about the Jewish role in South Africa.

    How would you describe that role?

  61. Anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    Many more arrived after the Portuguese recaptured Brazil in 1654 — immediately expelling the Jews.

    Why were they expelled by the Portuguese?

  62. Antonius says:
    @Steve Sailer

    One really needs to examine their role in the Anglo Boer war. The comments about “Jewbergers and his loathing for them to Churchill” by the likes of Ian Hamilton are quite insightful. The ‘Boer War’ by Thomas Pakenham is a must read for anybody wanting a deeper understanding of South Africa. It also explains the utter hypocrisy of some the ((chosen))

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  63. Anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @syonredux
  64. Anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    He spends all his time on Twitter, and most of his tweets are incomprehensible.

    Give one example. Just one.

  65. CAL2 says:

    Grant probably kept seeing Jews brought before him for trying to circumvent the trade restrictions and simply expelled the Jews. In other words, he noticed things. It is interesting that he apologized and later, when running for president, received the backing of the major Jewish leaders of the day.

    An older book on the Barbary Wars notes that all of the Barbary states used Jewish bankers. At times they provided funds to the US when they were trying to pay ransoms or simply make another payment to the potentates.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  66. Coemgen says:

    Pamela S. Nadell is yet another moral entrepreneur generating moral panic — moral, in this case, meaning immoral.

  67. Pamela S. Nadell holds the Patrick Clendenen Chair in women’s and gender history at American University.

    Wow. An endowed chair in women’s and gender history. We are truly doomed.

  68. Tom Verso says:

    “Someday, reparations will be paid to members of the Hillcrest Country Club because their great-grandfathers couldn’t join the Los Angeles Country Club.”

    You never cease to amaze! Brilliant absolutely Brilliant
    .

  69. TheJester says:
    @Paul

    Grant considered his ban on Jewish traders in the Mississippi Valley a military necessity.

    My understanding is that Jewish traders from New York moved ahead of the Union forces pressing down the Mississippi River. They bought southern cotton stocks using Federal currency … which was in turn used by the Confederates to buy British-manufactured arms. The Jewish traders bought the cotton stocks at rock-bottom prices and, after Union forces secured an area, sold and shipped the cotton to textile mills in New England at a hefty profit.

    Hence Grant’s charges against the Jewish traders: trading with the enemy and profiteering off the war at the Union’s expense.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  70. @AnotherDad

    It’s like the Grateful Dead once sang: “I may be going to Hell in a bucket, but at least I’m enjoying the ride.”

  71. @Svigor

    It’s a complete mystery, why the history of the Jews is so lachrymose.

    Reminds me of Frederick the Great’s quip about Maria Theresa of Austria: “She weeps, but she takes her share.”

  72. When the Jewish refugees from Brazil arrived in New Amsterdam, they were broke and on the verge of starvation.

    The same Dutch Calvinist leaders who had misgivings about allowing them to settle permanently in New Amsterdam, also arranged charity for the refugees to ensure they didn’t starve or freeze.

    365 years later, Pamela Nadell still hates Peter Stuyvesant, and his descendants, and his entire community, and their descendants, and all the newcomers who’ve assimilated to that community over the centuries – all because Stuyvesant and his community, while busy saving the lives of the entire Jewish refugee community, had the temerity to engage in frank and honest debate.

    Is their anyone naive enough to think Nadell would welcome a fierce debate?

  73. MEH 0910 says:
    @South Texas Guy

    Excerpted from Albion’s Seed by David Hackett Fischer:

    Old Folkways and the New Immigration

    ******
    Another representative of this process was Barry Goldwater, an American of Jewish descent who lived his formative years in the southwest. He became deeply interested in the history of that region and collected a library of western history which was one of the best in private hands. His speech, dress, attitudes, political principles, and his idea of natural liberty were drawn from the culture of the backcountry and the southwestern frontier. His manners and behavior conformed to old border and backcountry folkways.

    ******
    The author’s Protestant stereotypes about the culture of Judaism were utterly exploded by his Brandeis students who have included Yankee Jews, Philadelphia Jews, southern Jews and, most startling of all, backslapping Texas Jews in cowboy boots and ten-gallon hats.

  74. Someday, reparations will be paid to members of the Hillcrest Country Club because their great-grandfathers couldn’t join the Los Angeles Country Club.

    And we will owe them interest on it, too. Uncle Moisha wants his vig.

  75. Anonanon says:

    Jews made up 4% of the military in World War Two and 2% of the casualties. We are constantly reminded about “family lost in the Holocaust” but seldom about “family died trying to liberate them.”

    Still waiting for the Spielberg movie about them.

  76. MEH 0910 says:

    Albion’s Seed:

    Other Colonial Cultures

    The four major cultures did not embrace all of British America. Other cultural areas also existed. Some were of considerable size, though smaller than the major regions. The largest of these other cultures was New Netherland, which occupied much of the Hudson Valley. In 1700 Dutch burghers and boers were two-thirds of the population in Dutchess and Ulster counties, three-quarters in Orange County, five-sixths in Kings County and nine-tenths in Albany. They also colonized part of East Jersey, where as late as 1790 they were 75 percent of the population in Bergen County, and 80 percent in Somerset County.7

    This was a very conservative culture. Its old-fashioned Dutch dialect survived even into the mid-nineteenth century. Its architecture remained distinctive for broad barns, hay barracks, step-gabled town houses, and low, narrow farmhouses with half doors. Settlement patterns retained a special character, with homes built in distinctive irregular clusters around a reformed church. Rates of internal migration were exceptionally low, and Dutch households had a different demographic profile from those of English neighbors, with fewer children and more slaves. In 1738, most Dutch families in King’s County were slave-owners.8

    This culture developed its own special ways of dealing with other ethnic groups. It combined formal toleration, social distance and inequality in high degree. The result was an ethnic pluralism that became more atomistic than in the Delaware Valley and more hierarchical than in New England. The peculiar texture of life in New York City today still preserves qualities which existed in seventeenth-century New Amsterdam—and Old Amsterdam as well.9

    The culture of New Netherland did not expand far beyond its original boundaries. Its population remained small. In 1664, only 7,000 Dutch settlers (and 3,000 non-Dutch) were living in New Netherland. By 1790 only about 98,000 people of Dutch descent were living in the United States—less than one-tenth the population of New England, and a small fraction of the other major regional populations.10

  77. Glaivester says: • Website

    We need to start publicizing a new term: antijaphetism. It refers to the hatred and demonization of white Gentiles.

    (The term parallels antisemitism – Jews are descendants of Shem, Europeans of Japheth).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Bill Jones
  78. countenance says: • Website

    “Trope” is my new drinking game.

  79. @Steve Sailer

    There was a traditional Western song with the lines:

    Yippee kay yi yay
    Git along little dogie
    For Wyoming
    will be your new home

    Dogie being a western slang term for calf.

  80. donut says:

    Is today a Jewish holiday ?

  81. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Even in the Jewish context, think about what was happening to the Jews of Europe in 1942. Not being able to stay in the resort of their choice would have seemed like a ridiculous trifle. The Jews of America in 1942 should have been devoting themselves day and night to saving their brethren from extermination and instead they worried about where they could stay on vacation. The author should be ashamed that that article even exists because it is proof of how the Jews of America fiddled while European Jewry burned.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @res
  82. I found the good doctor’s AU website, and her CV is 35 pages long. Thirty-five pages long. 35.

    I’ve always been astounded by the length of CVs in academia, and this certainly fuels my astonishment. One interesting entry:

    “The Jewish Mother and the JAP: Stereotypes of Jewish Women,” at the conference, “Raising
    Women’s Voices,” Princeton University, December 1992.

    Does anyone here remember something they did at work in 1992?

  83. Jack D says:

    OT – very iStevish article in NY Times today:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/us/college-admissions-race.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    ‘What Does It Take?’: Admissions Scandal Is a Harsh Lesson in Racial Disparities

    (World Ends – Blacks and other Minorities Hit Hardest)

    Ms. McReynolds and her husband, owners of a financial education company based in Atlanta, have drilled a message into their son: as an African-American student, you have to be better.

    In the context of college admissions, this is just a Big Lie. Not only does it not contain a grain of truth, it is literally opposite to the truth. The NY Times nowadays might as well be Der Stürmer.

    • Agree: ic1000, YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @res
  84. BB753 says:

    Jews have endured slavery, exile, Roman total war, diaspora, Muslim yoke, religious persecutions, pogroms, wholesale slaughter, but getting excluded from a Gentile Country Club was the straw that broke the camel’s back!
    Eventually, you’ve got to draw a line somewhere!

  85. Mr. Anon says:
    @AnotherDad

    My general feeling is that this stuff is just weaponized propaganda, but there seem to be an incredible number of Jews who actually, deeply, viscerally believe this stuff.

  86. KunioKun says:

    The goyim are shit. Buy my new book to find out why.

  87. Mr. Anon says:

    Pamela S. Nadell holds the Patrick Clendenen Chair in women’s and gender history at American University and is the author of “America’s Jewish Women: A History from Colonial Times to Today.”

    It’s remarkable how parochial some cosmopolitans are.

    I’m reminded of John Derbyshire’s observation of (seemingly) most black intellectuals: their interests are blackity-black blackness.

  88. Thank you, Pamela S. Nadell!

    I’ve always wanted to read something by an actual Jew. Thank you!

  89. Ibound1 says:

    Maybe OT. Israeli Jews seem so much more confident.

    ‘IDF will shoot African infiltrators,’ Israeli official tells shocked activists

    https://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3083,00.html

    I love the word “infiltrators”. Why can’t we use that word?

  90. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Glaivester

    We need to start publicizing a new term: antijaphetism. It refers to the hatred and demonization of white Gentiles.

    It’s a bit of an odd word and people may pause over the pronounciation of the “ph”. It also endorses Jewish mythology. Are Japhets painted in a positive or negative light in those stories? Are Jews painted in a positive or negative light?

  91. rufus says:
    @James Speaks

    Or, ya know, the millions and millions of Russian, British, and American men who actually died defeating the Germans in combat. Not those who refused to fight, fled the field, or otherwise collaborated allowing, ” survival. “

  92. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    The Jews of America in 1942 should have been devoting themselves day and night to saving their brethren from extermination

    People were ignorant during the war of what you allege to have been going on then (“extermination”).

    Or maybe that passage from the article is a kind of Freudian slip that Jews deep down harbor doubts about the veracity of the allegations.

  93. @Reg Cæsar

    I think that is true about Grant – he was concerned about profiteering by traders supplying Union troops – so he issued an order expelling all Jews from Tennessee – it was over-turned within a week or two by Lincoln (so the story goes after a visit in DC from some prominent Jews) by means of a very curt communication to Grant.

  94. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Like Islam (and many other tribal peoples), Judaism permits cousin marriage. I guess the Catholic Church (taking its cue from Roman law – Jesus had nothing to say on the subject) wanted people to have their primary loyalty to the Church and nation and not to their clans and so prohibited not only 1st cousin marriage but (at the high point) marriage to even a 6th cousin (pretty much all Jews are each other’s sixth cousins*, at least, so that really would not have worked for them). And to this day, marrying anyone with any degree of relation at all is seen as a backwoods hickish hillbilly thing to do.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibited_degree_of_kinship#Medieval_canon_law

    Maybe marriage to 1st cousins is too close but maybe the Western approach where people marry only perfect strangers with nothing in common with them leads to TOO LITTLE tribal feeling and that’s what got us in the mess we are today? You don’t want your mind to be closed to new idea but you don’t want to be so open minded that your brains fall out.

    * if not in the sense of having 1 common ancestor at the 7th generation, at least in bits and pieces of multiple common ancestors further back so it adds up to more than a 6th cousin’s worth of common DNA.

  95. If only Jews could find the courage to finally speak up about the hushed-up subject of anti-Semitism.

    Best laugh I’ve had all month. I don’t subscribe, but if there are WaPo​ comments, please tell us there was SOME pushback to this shit.

  96. This idea of “educating” Omar seems to be a very Jewish response. Eliot Engel said the same thing about Occluded Cortex after one of her anti-Israel outbursts. She needs a talking to. I remember a columnist for the Indy Star, Dan Carpenter, said that after he wrote an anti-Israel column some rabbis demanded a sit-down discussion with him.

    Do they think that they’re in possession of superior facts that can reverse people’s opinions? Or is this just about making bald threats?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Anonymous
  97. One wonders how discrimination against the newly arrived Jewish immigrants compared to discrimination against other large waves of immigrants?

    Say, how did it compare to discrimination against the Irish, or the Italians, or Mexican immigrants, or the various Slavic groups? I’m sure anti-semitism here was less pervasive and legally entrenched than the various bars erected against Asiatics and blacks — not to mention American Indians.

    And yet, which group are we to concern ourselves with? After all, unlike some of the above, Jews in America have inarguably risen to become perhaps the most affluent, powerful, and privileged ethnicity in the country. Whatever happened to Jews elsewhere, isn’t it literally absurd to concern ourselves with their fate, compared to that of…most of the rest of the country?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  98. Lurker says:
    @Asagirian

    That is exactly the position the British Labour Party finds itself in today.

  99. @Reg Cæsar

    I bet Secretary of War Judah P Benjamin didn’t do anything of the sort.

    Wrong side. Benjamin was with the Confederacy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  100. @Anon

    Speaking of oppression… didn’t whites gain possession of the New World because they conquered and committed ‘genocide’? In South America, tens of millions were killed by diseases. Most died of disease on North America too. And there was a massive slave trade. It was empire-building based on conquest, subjugation, war, and slave trade.

    Jews decided to take part in that and profit off it. They followed the white imperialists.

    They LED the white imperialists. Columbus was a nuevo cristiano.

  101. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    FYI: (from Wikipedia)

    Re: Emma Lazarus (The New Colossus)

    Emma Lazaruswas born in New York City, July 22, 1849,[5] into a large Sephardic Jewish family.[a] She was the fourth of seven children of Moses Lazarus, a wealthy Jewish merchant,[7] and sugar refiner;[8] and Esther Nathan.[9] One of her great-grandfathers on the Lazarus side was from Germany;[10] the rest of her Lazarus and Nathan ancestors were originally from Portugal and resident in New York long before the American Revolution, being among the original twenty-three Portuguese Jews who arrived in New Amsterdam fleeing the Inquisition from their settlement of Recife, Brazil.[11][8] Lazarus’s great-great-grandmother on her mother’s side, Grace Seixas Nathan (born in New York in 1752) was also a poet.[12] Lazarus was related through her mother to Benjamin N. Cardozo, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. Her siblings included sisters, Josephine Lazarus, Sarah, Mary, Emma, Agnes and Annie; and there was also a brother, Frank.[13][14][15]

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  102. Lurker says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Crossfire – I happened to see that only a few months ago.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039286/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

    Which calls for a gratuitous picture of Gloria Grahame:

  103. Lurker says:

    Anti-Semitism on U.S. soil goes back to Colonial days.

    Not just tragic dirt but anti-semitic dirt.

    • Replies: @guest
  104. res says:
    @istevefan

    It does make you wonder why Washington chose to include that phrase.

    Full text of Washington’s letter plus some explanatory text: https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/05-06-02-0135

  105. Alfa158 says:

    As is often the case, I’m confused; did I read that article right?
    So Governor Stuyvesant wanted to block these Jews from Brazil from landing in New Amsterdam, but he was over-ruled because there were already Jews living in New Amsterdam and these Jews actually called the shots? Yet New Amsterdam was somehow a hotbed of Anti-Semitism and practically a proto-Holocaust?
    I guess my goyische kopf just isn’t up to these levels of mental acrobatics.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  106. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    And to this day, marrying anyone with any degree of relation at all is seen as a backwoods hickish hillbilly thing to do.

    Why isn’t it seen as a Jewish thing to do?

  107. njguy73 says:
    @Mr McKenna

    there seem to be an incredible number of Jews who actually, deeply, viscerally believe this stuff.

    I don’t.

    Well yeah–a number of them are regular contributors to this comment forum..

    I am.

  108. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    They LED the white imperialists. Columbus was a nuevo cristiano.

    Columbus was a converso? Really?

  109. res says:
    @Mr McKenna

    “Debate” is a more emphatic form of “conversation.” Both of which mean “sit still and don’t speak while I lecture you.”

    • Agree: Trevor H.
  110. njguy73 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Jews really don’t like to talk about the Jewish role in South Africa.

    With all due respect, Mr. Sailer, what does that have to do with me? Any more than what people of your ethnic group did outside the U.S.?

  111. @Glaivester

    Wasn’t there a brother Ham in there somewhere?

    Don’t tell me he’s the Muslim guy?

    How can they be descendants of bacon?

  112. @Steve Sailer

    Hadn’t thought of that, but the cryptojewish thing does fit with quasi Nazi bad guys.

    Inglorious Basterds Zero

  113. njguy73 says:
    @istevefan

    May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants;

    Washington was addressing people who knew the Torah inside out. The audience for the letter knew that Washington recognized Jews and Europeans as sons of Abraham, who was descended from Noah’s son Shem. Hence “Semitic.” Abraham’s descendants included the twelve tribes of Israel. The Jews, per the thought of the times, are descended from Levi, Judah, and Benjamin, while Europeans are from the other nine.

    Africans were considered descended from Noah’s son Ham, who begat Cush, who is said to be the father of the East Africans; and Canaan, who is said to be the father of the desert tribes who were driven out of the Promised Land.

    And Noah’s other son Japheth is said to be the father of Asians. One of Japheth’s grandsons was Ashkenaz, who is said to be the father of West Asians. One theory posits that the Ashkenazim are the mixing of Semitic Jews with Armenians.

    So Washington’s letter is no 18th-century example of modern-day “wokeness.” He was very specific as to which races ranked where in the hierarchy of the day.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    , @Anonymous
  114. res says:
    @Jack D

    Agreed. How about you go leave a comment to that effect on the original article? If I did that it would probably by considered anti-Semitic.

    A bit surprised they posted what is currently the most recent comment there:

    Steve Sailer, writing on the Unz website in response to Ms. Nadell’s piece, expresses this wish: “If only Jews could find the courage to finally speak up about the hushed-up subject of anti-Semitism.”

    • Agree: utu
  115. njguy73 says:
    @advancedatheist

    No wonder the Fire-Eaters were so adamant about keeping slavery legal, and why the sons of rich planter were against their father manumitting slaves in their will. It’s like, “You got to get chicks that way, and you won’t let me? Fuck that shit!”

  116. fnn says:

    Corbyn is the new Trump:

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  117. notanon says:
    @Anon

    sugar

    the link goes way back, sugar was originally from India traded via merchants from Yemen who set up sugar plantations in Yemen and east Africa (import substitution) but were eventually forced out leading to sugar production gradually moving west over the centuries (Yemen/Ethiopia to Egypt/Cyprus to Sicily to Moorish Spain to Atlantic islands to Americas).

    thing about sugar is it was extremely labor intensive for most of history hence it’s 3000 year connection to slavery – when you look at the centers of sugar production over time they map onto the main slave magnets.

    after slavery was abolished people who wanted unlimited cheap labor had to come up with a new method and lo the multicult was born.

  118. @ben tillman

    No Columbus, no Hispanics. Isn’t history grand!

  119. njguy73 says:
    @njguy73

    Upon further review, the Japhetites seem to be some Western Europeans and some East Asians, while the Semites are Eastern Europeans and Middle Easterners.

  120. res says:
    @Jack D

    Agreed. There is much push back against the racial framing in the NYT Reader Picks comments.

    How about we compare the true qualifications of the Singer cheaters with the average affirmative action students at each of their schools? I wonder what we would find?

    The funny thing is I expect the experience of the Singer cheaters at their colleges would have been much harder if the curricula and grading had not already been eviscerated to avoid “disparate impact” type issues.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Anonymous
  121. riches says:
    @Steve Sailer

    “Cowboy” was a nickname in the movie.

    So the writers appropriated the best known western song of their generation: Johnny Mercer/Bing Crosby’s “I’m An Old Cowhand.” They heard the nonsense string revived in Deputy Dawg’s theme song.

  122. notanon says:
    @AnotherDad

    but there seem to be an incredible number of Jews who actually, deeply, viscerally believe this stuff.

    natural selection at work – evolved paranoia is self-fulfilling and prevents assimilation.

    peoples shouldn’t live as minorities for too long – it makes them insane.

  123. Lot says:
    @syonredux

    “Williams credits the Jews for transferring that technology to Barbados, which they likely did as investors in sugar plantations they did not own. Watson’s ledgers show both investments in sugar plantations and certainly, handling the trade in sugar after it was harvested.”

    This shows the advantage of the sanctity of contracts and rule of law. Imagine the new world, with little colonies of 2000 people spread out hundreds of miles away. But the Brazilian Jews trusted the British planters in Barbados with their money as minority shareholders, and their costly inventions.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  124. Jack D says:
    @ben tillman

    I’d like to give Columbus credit for being Jewish but there’s no real proof:

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/destination-the-new-world/

    • Replies: @BB753
  125. notanon says:
    @Jack D

    i think the wiki article has got that wrong – iirc the rule was six degrees of separation not 6th cousin so
    – 1st cousin is four degrees
    – 2nd cousin is six degrees
    – uncle/niece is three degrees etc

    the degrees of separation are counted by each step on a chart like this

    http://heirbase.com/degrees_of_kinship_chart/

    • Replies: @res
  126. Anti-Semitism on U.S. soil goes back to Colonial days. In 1654, 23 Jews, fleeing the Inquisition that threatened to reach them in Brazil, landed in New Amsterdam,

    It takes a huge amount of gall to casually assert that just because “23 Jews” showed up in New Amsterdam, the people of New Amsterdam were required to take them in. Further, even though New Amsterdam did end up taking them in, its still okay to complain and use this non-incident as a cudgel against Christians 365 years hence.

    23 Jews, fleeing the Inquisition

    Tell us Pamela, what was the Inquisition and why did Jews feel the need to flee from it?

  127. Jack D says:
    @Alfa158

    Stuyvesant wanted to expel the Jews (he was clearly anti-Semitic). However the Brazilian Jews (they were the 1st to land – there were no other Jews living in New Amsterdam at that time) used their connections in Amsterdam. Some of the prominent stockholders of the Dutch West India Company (Stuyvesant’s employer) were Jewish. When Stuyvesant wrote back to HQ for permission to expel the Jews, the directors wrote him back (it’s not clear whether they were being sincere or just trying to soften the no) to the effect that “we’d love to give you permission but for reasons of shareholder relations we have to allow them to stay.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  128. Dtbb says:
    @Jack D

    The history of my family, on both sides, is a twisted mess of half siblings and cousins in colonial virginia. I call it the theory of relativity.

  129. @Jack D

    Like Islam (and many other tribal peoples), Judaism permits cousin marriage. I guess the Catholic Church (taking its cue from Roman law – Jesus had nothing to say on the subject) wanted people to have their primary loyalty to the Church and nation and not to their clans …

    Spot on. The Church wanted everyone united in the Church not in their tribes and clans.

    One correction: The Western program is distinctly not to marry “perfect strangers” but to marry your … neighbor who is not a relation. That’s in fact the special sauce.

    As i’ve tried to explain to some of my Indian grad school friends, this breaking up of tribes and tribalism is why white nations were able to obtain high trust and solidarity at scale and–along with IQ, conscientiousness–go on to develop rapidly, kick ass around the world and be the nations that everyone else clamors to get into.

    The Japanese managed to achieve something similar though some different non-Christian means that i don’t understand. (I don’t understand the dynamic in Japan.)

    Destroying tribalism and creating high trust nations was a great achievement and a big part of the success of the West. The Jews, of course–and later the gypsies–are the tribal, non-integrating outliers. India is what a civilization looks like when everyone follows the Jewish program and stays tribal. (Actually India’s an upgrade as most of the tribes and castes are united under Hinduism.)

  130. Jack D says:
    @res

    The push back seems to be of “this is not a racial issue, this is about money” type. That is only half way there. This IS a racial issue, but blacks are on the wrong side of the equation. They have their own “side door” to admissions and are in no position to complain. The real victims here are poor whites and Asians who have no “side doors” available to them and have stand in the line at the front door where the bouncers turn most of them away.

    • Replies: @res
  131. The Craw says:

    OT: Interesting development in Smollet case

    3 days after Jizzie’s “attack”, Chicago attorney, Tina Tchen, former Obama White House staffer and personal friend of Mrs. Rahm Emanuel, contacted the Cook County prosecutor to intercede* on Jizzie’s behalf.

    Ms. Tchen asked the prosecutor, Kim Foxx, to (1) persuade the Chicago Police to turn the case over to the FBI (thus derailing the CPD investigation) and (2) communicate DIRECTLY with Smollet’s relative over the disposition of Jizzie’s case.

    As for item (1) Ms. Foxx said she’d try to do it.

    As for item (2) Ms. Foxx texted and emailed Ms. Tchen AND the “relative” over the next 12 days.

    Per the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission, there are 45,000 attorneys in Cook County.

    How did the “relative” know to retain Ms. Tchen for this sort of help?

    How did the “relative” know that Ms. Foxx would readily communicate with Ms. Tchen?

    * tip o’ the hat to Bored Identity

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-jussie-smollett-kim-foxx-records-20190313-story.html

  132. res says:
    @Jack D

    True. But still, I think for the NYT audience that constitutes progress.

    P.S. BTW, what did you think of my assertion in the last paragraph of that comment:

    The funny thing is I expect the experience of the Singer cheaters at their colleges would have been much harder if the curricula and grading had not already been eviscerated to avoid “disparate impact” type issues.

    In my more cynical moments I wonder if that dynamic (only for the richer and more powerful who go through the back doors and not the side doors) is a big part of the reason affirmative action is so blatant and defended so vigorously at elite colleges.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Jack D
  133. @AnotherDad

    The Western program is distinctly not to marry “perfect strangers” but to marry your … neighbor who is not a relation. That’s in fact the special sauce.

    Marrying the literal Girl Next Door has much to commend it. When you grow up with this girl in the same community, you can get a good read on her personality and character. Also by observing how your elders speak of her family, you can tell if her relatives have a good reputation or not. Your potential wife comes to you practically “curated,” as we say these days.

    Now, in our era of deracinated, atomized individualism, you don’t have any of this context to help you find a mate when you meet strange single women. You can’t tell right away if you have gotten involved with a slut, a potential alcoholic, a spendthrift, or a woman with a mental disorder who hides it well until she experiences stress. A lot of the romantic drama surrounding man/woman relationships originated only recently, in post-Enlightenment modernity; and I suspect that we haven’t had time to adapt to it effectively.

  134. SF says:
    @Steve Sailer

    An aunt and uncle of mine owned and operated a very high-class summer camp in Wisconsin, the clientele of which was largely Jewish. In order to avoid problems, they changed their names. My aunt dropped her very Germanic first name, keeping the ethnically neutral middle name of Jane. My Uncle dropped their Greek family name, since a number of Greek partisans fought on the Nazi side in World War II.

  135. My favorite part about Jews is how they don’t in any way act like the stereotypes from the last two thousand years.

    • LOL: utu
  136. Gradually I began to hate them.

  137. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @res

    How about we compare the true qualifications of the Singer cheaters with the average affirmative action students at each of their schools? I wonder what we would find?

    Great question.

  138. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    This shows the advantage of the sanctity of contracts and rule of law.

    Maybe it’s more a reflection of the trustworthiness and integrity of the Anglo-Saxon and Scottish peoples. Fair dealing. As honest as an Englishman. All those stereotypes.

    • Replies: @Lot
  139. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Stuyvesant wanted to expel the Jews

    What problems did he see the Jews causing that made him think it would be appropriate to ask them to leave?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  140. @AnotherDad

    One correction: The Western program is distinctly not to marry “perfect strangers” but to marry your … neighbor who is not a relation. That’s in fact the special sauce.

    In a community with any roots and cohesion, it doesn’t take too many generations of neighbor marriage until that is de facto cousin marriage.

    The only way you can have neighbor marriage without cousin marriage is to have a rootless society, where communities are constantly torn apart and your neighbor hasn’t been your neighbor for very long.

    And that’s working out so well….

    • Replies: @notanon
  141. @a

    “They blackmail them.”

    Yes, though it’s the Mossad running the kompromat operations. That’s what Jeffrey Epstein’s Caribbean isle was all about.

  142. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer

    What could be a worse fate in 1942 that not getting one’s first choice of vacation resort? I’m sure all those Marines who vacationed on Guadalcanal that year were there because that was their dream resort.

  143. In America, taxpayers money is used to forcibly educate students in CA, IL, NJ, FL and NY in “Holocaust Studies.” True Fact.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_requiring_teaching_of_the_Holocaust

  144. @AnotherDad

    “To be able to smile — even to smirk — amid the destruction …”

    I choose to resist by using story against their propaganda. Culture is more powerful than politics. But smirking is good. I’ve been working on mine since 1976.

  145. @James Speaks

    Like the black volk, Jewish narcissism is off the charts.

  146. BB753 says:
    @Jack D

    Who ever heard of a Jewish sailor?

  147. @AnotherDad

    A realistic, honest comment. Which is why it won’t get any traction with the likes of Ms. Nadell.

  148. Jack D says:
    @res

    I’m cynical but not THAT cynical – think the dumbing down of the curriculum is just an unintended “benefit” rather than a intended goal of AA. The main motive was for rich whites to be able to feel virtuous and non-racist because they got to rub elbows with (clean, well spoken) diverse minorities. Powell in Bakke pinpointed the benefits of “diversity” to white people as the key to the legitimacy of AA (legally it couldn’t be as “reparations” because under US law we have this picky requirement that in order to be compensated you have to prove that you personally have been a victim). That AA also reduces the number of yucky, uncool working class whites and nerdy Asians and makes the grading curve easier is another unintended yet welcome benefit. The bottom line is that for rich whites and university administrations, AA has many more benefits than downsides which is why it is defended so vigorously even though it is not favored by the general public.

    • Replies: @res
  149. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Bill B.

    To the last point, interesting that Foreign Policy doesn’t realize that the UK is still very commercially important, especially to Europe, and that they took a step down to join, eg, EU fishing areas are largely relabeled UK fishing areas. If the UK was truly thrown all the way out and had to start from scratch, they would still find help and markets. PRC on the other hand is a totally artificial Frankenstein’s monster, needing a million special exceptions and to eat the cost of trans-Pacific shipping, but the conventional wisdom is that they are the new center.
    NPR just now: “White Nationalism in the United States is becoming more common and more deadly.” — Ari Shapiro. Source: Ari’s husband’s jenkem.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  150. guest says:

    Does anyone honestly think Americans are off the holo-hook? Or white ones, anyway? Nevermind FDR turning away the Ship of Fools. The Holy Six Million were killed by all of Christendom. Collective guilt.

    Anyway, it’s difficult for the history of homegrown antisemitism to get us down considering we can throw degenerate Hollywood, Meyer Lansky, and Bernie Madoff at them all day. What do they got? Leo Frank? He was a kiddie-killer.

  151. @Jack D

    First-cousin marriage is apparently legal everywhere in the world except in about half of US states. It was the eugenicists, not the Catholics, that pushed that through.

    But the uncle-niece marriages of the Sephardim are not so common. Its legality in Rhode Island cause problems for those who moved to other states. There was a case in the early 20th century when New York State refused to honor a will or contract in connection with a couple so married.

    However, that may change, thanks to diversity:

    https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2014/10/31/new-york-court-allows-uncle-niece-marry/

    Colonial Protestants dispensed with “Roman law”, as second-cousin marriages occurred frequently in the 17th century, when the colonies were still small. Lion Gardiner settled Gardiner’s Island, and is arguably the first New Yorker, as opposed to New Netherlander. There was a first-cousin marriage among his children (or grandchildren, I forget). Not a lot of dating options on the island. A lot of us are thus double descendants of Lion.

  152. Jack D says:
    @res

    A really honest article would have followed a school with working class white kids (or even Asians) and discussed the impact to them of the rigged admission system. If 19 of 20 applicants to Stanford are being turned down and maybe half the class is entering through various “side doors”, someone with no “side doors” available to him (this does NOT include blacks) has maybe a 1 in 40 chance of getting in – this is approaching the odds of winning the LOTTO. But this would have required the NY Times to portray yucky working class whites in a sympathetic way and not as gun loving, racist Jeebus freaks, their preferred portrayal. And as for Asians, they would prefer that they stay invisible because their success undermines the narrative that racism rather than genetic differences and problems in their own cultures is what is holding back blacks and Latinos.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  153. guest says:
    @Anon

    Whoa, don’t go all History on her. Might as well be scolding them for all the many massacres perpetrated in the Old Testament. They don’t care.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
  154. guest says:
    @Lurker

    I think they brought the dirt with them. In coffins, like Dracula.

  155. @Mr McKenna

    In a real and legally binding way….

  156. guest says:
    @syonredux

    It was the work of phony-Dutchman Baruch Spinoza, who secretly controlled the colony through his fellow Lensmen.

  157. guest says:
    @syonredux

    Why is “Jewess” in funny quotes?

  158. res says:
    @notanon

    Jack knows what he is talking about historically here. The history of “degree of kinship” is odd. Here is a comment thread where we talked about this (I basically said the same thing as you initially) with references: http://www.unz.com/isteve/why-we-westerners-are-weird/#comment-2386515
    I give a quote from the paper wiki referenced.
    (also follow back through the replies)

    • Replies: @notanon
  159. Art says:
    @syonredux

    House slave

    Tobacco Plantation

    Cotton Plantation

    Sugar Plantation

    Mine slavery

    You left out Banana Republic.

  160. res says:
    @Jack D

    You are probably right. To be clear, I never thought that was the (or even a) reason for starting AA. More a matter of realizing “hey, this is a useful side benefit” feeding into your final two sentences.

    Is there any data on how the “black advantage” on SAT admission scores has trended over time?

  161. @Lurker

    Ah, another Gloria Grahame fan heard from.

    Film Stars Don’t Die in Liverpool is about her last sad years. Annette Bening plays Gloria. Compared with most of the rubbish on movie screens these days it’s outstanding.

  162. syonredux says:
    @Anonymous

    Senator Reed announced in a New York Times op-ed, “The racial composition of America at the present time thus is made permanent.” Three years later, in 1927, Johnson held forth in dire but confident tones in a foreword to a book about immigration restriction. “Our capacity to maintain our cherished institutions stands diluted by a stream of alien blood, with all its inherited misconceptions respecting the relationships of the governing power to the governed,” he warned. “The United States is our land … We intend to maintain it so. The day of unalloyed welcome to all peoples, the day of indiscriminate acceptance of all races, has definitely ended.”

    …..And then the great work was undone in 1965…..

    • Replies: @Lot
  163. iffen says:

    Anti-Semitism on U.S. soil goes back to Colonial days. In 1654, 23 Jews, fleeing the Inquisition

    In 1862,

    Over two hundred year between incidents. By God, I’ll put that up against any other country.

  164. @advancedatheist

    Makes sense. By the way, any idea how “curate” became the latest vogue word? Suddenly it’s everywhere.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  165. @J.Ross

    PRC on the other hand is a totally artificial Frankenstein’s monster, needing a million special exceptions and to eat the cost of trans-Pacific shipping,

    Will you please elaborate? I agree with you on the UK – they’ll be fine but I don’t understand your point about the PRC.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  166. Lot says:
    @Anonymous

    An generally honest population like the English is necessary but not sufficient for long term multinational trade and investment.

    It minimizes outright fraud, but businessmen routinely also have honest disagreements, especially when things don’t go as planned.

  167. notanon says:
    @Cloudbuster

    In a community with any roots and cohesion, it doesn’t take too many generations of neighbor marriage until that is de facto cousin marriage.

    somewhere between 3rd and 4th cousins is fine and possibly optimal

  168. Lot says:
    @syonredux

    “And then the great work was undone in 1965”

    One thing Ron Unz gets right: the 1965 Act didn’t start mass Latin American migration. It actually placed the first numerical restriction on it. It allowed greater Eastern European and Asian migration however.

    Latin Am migration was limited before that mainly by economic factors and unofficial executive branch policies deterring it.

    It really took off around 1981-85 when the economy boomed but the big supply of boomers entering the labor market tried up, and then even more with the 86 amnesty and 90 bill than nearly doubled legal immigration and created many of new categories.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  169. notanon says:
    @res

    yes, i missed the “at the high point” in his post

    …prohibited not only 1st cousin marriage but (at the high point) marriage to even a 6th cousin…

  170. Hunsdon says:
    @guest

    Who now remembers the Amalekites?

  171. George says:

    “Fortunately for these refugees, New Amsterdam’s Jewish leaders successfully interceded.” While the passage is being read as ‘Jews’ it is more likely the ‘Brazilian Jews’ were Sephardic vs Ashkenazi Jews. The history of Dutch Jewry is complicated as to the 2 Jewish groups. But the issue might have been Jew on Jew with Stuyvesant acting as peacemaker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Netherlands#Sephardim

    Anti Quakerism or maybe anti-Pennsylvania-ism?

    “In 1657, the Quakers, who were newly arrived in the colony, drew his attention. He ordered the public torture of Robert Hodgson, a 23-year-old Quaker convert who had become an influential preacher. Stuyvesant then made an ordinance, punishable by fine and imprisonment, against anyone found guilty of harboring Quakers.[15] That action led to a protest from the citizens of Flushing, which came to be known as the Flushing Remonstrance, considered by some historians a precursor to the United States Constitution’s provision on freedom of religion in the Bill of Rights.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Stuyvesant

    It doen’t matter as Stuyvesant was deplatformed by the British.

    • Replies: @guest
    , @Jack D
    , @Charles Pewitt
  172. syonredux says:
    @Lot

    One thing Ron Unz gets right: the 1965 Act didn’t start mass Latin American migration. It actually placed the first numerical restriction on it. It allowed greater Eastern European and Asian migration however.

    Apparently Ron doesn’t understand that that the ’65 Act marked the end of restricting immigration on the basis of national origin/race/ethnicity…..

    • Replies: @Lot
  173. syonredux says:
    @Hank Yobo

    He’s just massaging the truth in order to make a pro-Confederate Jewish Southerner feel better…..

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  174. Forbes says:

    Pamela S. Nadell holds the Patrick Clendenen Chair…
    …for you to sit down in it?

    Is this anything like phoning the tobacconist and asking if they have Prince Albert in a can…

  175. guest says:
    @George

    Brazilian isn’t very helpful here, since they were Jews fleeing a Dutch city which had been captured by Portugal. The city so-happened to be in Brazil, so the refugees went to another Dutch city in the New World.

    I truly don’t know the ethnic composition of Dutch Jews at the time. I joked about Spinoza above. He was Portuguese-Jewish, which is to say Sephardic. But I look up this Exodus under discussion and the only refugee name I find is Ashkenazi. The article talks about Stuyvesant being swayed by New Amsterdam’s leading Jews, but elsewhere I read these refugees were the earliest known Jews in New Amsterdam.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  176. @William Badwhite

    Wrong reply. I didn’t say which side he was on. On purpose.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  177. I must constantly discuss antisemitism because God forbid, anyone who sees me for first time doesn’t mistake my pale white skin and red hair for thinking that I’m of Irish descent.

  178. Jack D says:
    @George

    “Fortunately for these refugees, New Amsterdam’s Jewish leaders successfully interceded.” While the passage is being read as ‘Jews’ it is more likely the ‘Brazilian Jews’ were Sephardic vs Ashkenazi Jews. The history of Dutch Jewry is complicated as to the 2 Jewish groups. But the issue might have been Jew on Jew with Stuyvesant acting as peacemaker.

    In a word, no. The Jewish community in the Netherlands at that time was mostly Sephardic – Ashkenazim did not arrive until later. New Amsterdam at that point had NO “Jewish leaders” because it had no Jews, period – the whole point of Stuyvesant’s missive was not to let the camel’s nose into the tent. OLD Amsterdam did have (Sephardic) Jews and they were the ones who interceded on behalf of the Brazilian refugees, their Sephardi brothers.

    Here is the exact document by which they petitioned:

    http://digitalhistory.hsp.org/pafrm/doc/jewish-petition-dutch-west-india-company-january-1655

    Money quote : Your Honors should also please consider that many of the Jewish nation are principal shareholders in the Company.

    And this was the result:

    Letter from THE WEST INDIA COMPANY TO PETER STUYVESANT, APRIL 26, 1655

    Honorable, Prudent, Pious, Dear, Faithful [Stuyvesant] . . . We would have liked to effectuate and fulfill your wishes and request that the new territories should no more be allowed to be infected by people of the Jewish nation, for we foresee therefrom the same difficulties which you fear. But after having further weighed and considered the matter, we observe that this would be somewhat unreasonable and unfair, especially because of the considerable loss sustained by this nation [the Jewish community], with others, in the [Portuguese re-]taking of Brazil, as also because of the large amount of capital which they still have invested in the shares of this company. Therefore after many deliberations we have finally decided and resolved to apostille [to note in the margin] upon a certain petition presented by said Portuguese Jews [January 1655] that these people may travel and trade to and in New Netherland and live and remain there, provided the poor among them shall not become a burden to the company or to the community, but be supported by their own nation. You will now govern yourself accordingly.

    Money talks and bullshit walks. If you want to know why so many Jews seem inordinately interested in making money, this letter provides a big clue – money doesn’t just mean luxury, it means safety for Jews. Or at least it did before Hitler changed the rules of the game.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @Anonymous
  179. @Anonymous

    Her grandfather co-founded the New York Stock Exchange.

    The “huddled masses” was the 19th century counterpart to “It’s hard to find good domestic help these days” and “jobs Americans won’t do.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  180. @George

    It doen’t matter as Stuyvesant was deplatformed by the British.

    English rather than British. There’s no Britain anymore. Now I got to listen to that song from the English hillbilly.

    That action led to a protest from the citizens of Flushing, which came to be known as the Flushing Remonstrance, considered by some historians a precursor to the United States Constitution’s provision on freedom of religion in the Bill of Rights

    I always get the Flushing Remonstrance mixed up with the Flushing By The Bay At Shea Buckner Bungle.

  181. @syonredux

    He’s just massaging the truth in order to make a pro-Confederate Jewish Southerner feel better

    Confederate politicians said the same thing. To Jewish supporters, at least. We’re they lying?

    Hawaii, and perhaps Maryland, are the only states with explicitly Christian symbolism on their flags.

    Some cities manage to sneak it in:

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-la-county-seal-cross-20160407-story.html

    • Replies: @Hank Yobo
  182. @fnn

    I always suspected that the just-in-time Corbyn biography was a commissioned hit-piece. I wonder who paid for it – or was it simply made plain to Bowers that it would be sure to get maximum media boosting and he’d be a fool not to go for it?

    Fair play to Peter Oborne, who’s very much a middle of the road guy politically and not at all a Corbyn fan (nor am I), for this. The Mail, Oborne’s employer, is serialising Bowers’ book, so it’s brave as well.

    I note it’s not coming out in a major paper – the Guardian would be the natural place but they are wholly owned by the invade/invite crowd these days. As, since Paul Dacre left, is the Mail.

  183. @Jack D

    Money talks and bullshit walks. If you want to know why so many Jews seem inordinately interested in making money, this letter provides a big clue – money doesn’t just mean luxury, it means safety for Jews. Or at least it did before Hitler changed the rules of the game.

    Money is the ultimate passport. It’s not failsafe. But what is?

  184. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Lazarus grew up wealthy and detached from her Jewish roots. In her younger days, she did a lot of translations of German poetry, was friends with Ralph Waldo Emerson. The triggering event for her was the Russian pogroms of 1881 following the assassination of Tsar Alexander II – after that she reconnected with her roots and became engaged (like many rich white women of the time) with volunteer philanthropic efforts, in her case on behalf of the poor Russian Jewish immigrants. Lazarus’ close friend Rose Hawthorne Lathrop (Nathaniel’s daughter) was inspired to found the Dominican Sisters of Hawthorne for the same reason. Her connection with the “huddled masses” was not personal, it was from above, from the perspective of “noblesse oblige”.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @Reg Cæsar
  185. @Jack D

    Her connection with the “huddled masses” was not personal, it was from above, from the perspective of “noblesse oblige”.

    I’d say there was a large element of it, since at any time in that era there were people suffering from massacres and war-related mortality far in excess of what Russian Jews went through. Not that there’s anything wrong with it though, since everyone of that era, and today’s, does look at it from that standpoint. That is in part why we intervened in Yugoslavia and not in Rwanda, despite the much higher body count in Rwanda.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  186. Jack D says:
    @guest

    The Jews of the Netherlands were largely Sephardic at the time, as were the refugees from Recife. Who do you think is Ashkenazi? You can’t always tell by names (unless the name is question is Germanic). Names like Levy and Cohen are found in both groups.

    The article is confused – Stuyvesant was not swayed by the Jews of New Amsterdam because there weren’t any before the refugees arrived (and Stuyvesant wasn’t the kind of guy who would allow himself to be “swayed”). However, his bosses in Old Amsterdam were swayed by the (Sephardic) Jews who lived there. Their letter to Stuyvesant starts out politely but ends with a brusque directive – “you will govern yourself accordingly” to make it clear that they weren’t trying to “sway” him but to give him a direct order.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @guest
  187. @Antonius

    One really needs to examine their role in the Anglo Boer war. The comments about “Jewbergers and his loathing for them to Churchill” by the likes of Ian Hamilton are quite insightful. The ‘Boer War’ by Thomas Pakenham is a must read for anybody wanting a deeper understanding of South Africa.

    Don’t forget John Hobson’s writings both as a correspondent from South Africa and later in book form.

  188. Lot says:
    @syonredux

    It might have had that effect symbolically, but the text of the law didn’t.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  189. Speaking of the Golfocaust:

  190. Lot says:
    @Steve Sailer

    “Jews really don’t like to talk about the Jewish role in South Africa”

    They were disproportionately the leading supporters and leading opponents of the regime.

    Something for both the WN antisemites and black liberation antisemites to hate!

  191. Hank Yobo says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Shouldn’t Judge Christina A. Snyder consider changing her first name to something a little more religiously neutral lest plaintiffs in her court feel discomfort at the presence of a judicial functionary with such a sectarian name? She was very concerned about placing government “power, prestige, and purse behind a single religion, Christianity, . . . .” At least she should try to be consistent with her own legal reasoning or recuse herself from the case because of this obvious conflict of interest.

  192. Olorin says:
    @J.Ross

    In our own peculiar………………………idiom.

  193. syonredux says:
    @Lot

    It might have had that effect symbolically, but the text of the law didn’t.

    The connection between civil rights legislation and abolishing the national origins quotas was explicit. As Rep. Philip Burton (D-CA) said in Congress:

    “Just as we sought to eliminate discrimination in our land through the Civil Rights Act, today we seek by phasing out the national origins quota system to eliminate discrimination in immigration to this nation composed of the descendants of immigrants.” (Congressional Record, Aug. 25, 1965, p. 21783.)

    And Rep. Robert Sweeney (D-OH) said:

    “Mr. Chairman, I would consider the amendments to the Immigration and Nationality Act to be as important as the landmark legislation of this Congress relating to the Civil Rights Act. The central purpose of the administration’s immigration bill is to once again undo discrimination and to revise the standards by which we choose potential Americans in order to be fairer to them and which will certainly be more beneficial to us.” (Congressional Record, Aug. 25, 1965, p. 21765.)

    Allocated 170,000 visas to countries in the Eastern Hemisphere and 120,000 to countries in the Western Hemisphere. This increased the annual ceiling on immigrants from 150,000 to 290,000. Each Eastern-Hemisphere country was allowed an allotment of 20,000 visas, while in the Western Hemisphere there was no per-country limit.

    Abolished the national origins quota system (originally established in 1921 and most recently modified in 1952), while attempting to keep immigration to a manageable level. Family reunification became the cornerstone of U.S. immigration policy.

    https://cis.org/Report/Legacy-1965-Immigration-Act

  194. Clyde says:
    @Eelyamany Anubis XXXXVIII

    Makes sense. By the way, any idea how “curate” became the latest vogue word? Suddenly it’s everywhere.

    Started ten years ago, coming from New York City and Brooklyn hipsters. Also from the artsy crowd, East and West coasts. As in, “This restaurant maintains a carefully curated selection of whiskies from the British Isles”.

  195. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    PETER STUYVESANT, MANHATTAN, TO THE AMSTERDAM CHAMBER OF DIRECTORS, SEPTEMBER 22, 1654

    The Jews who have arrived would nearly all like to remain here, but learning that they (with their customary usury and deceitful trading with the Christians) were very repugnant to the inferior magistrates, as also to the people having the most affection for you; the Deaconry [which takes care of the poor] also fearing that owing to their present indigence [due to the fact that they had been captured and robbed by privateers or pirates] they might become a charge in the coming winter, we have, for the benefit of this weak and newly developing place and the land in general, deemed it useful to require them in a friendly way to depart; praying also most seriously in this connection, for ourselves as also for the general community of your worships, that the deceitful race-such hateful enemies and blasphemers of the name of Christ-be not allowed further to infect and trouble this new colony, to the detraction of your worships and the dissatisfaction of your worships’ most affectionate subjects.

    Sounds like Pete would be right at home here on unz.com.

  196. @Jack D

    As you showed earlier, Pete learned the hard way that it was all about the Benjamins.

  197. Mr. Anon says:
    @Lurker

    Which calls for a gratuitous picture of Gloria Grahame:

    Not gratuitous at all.

    Ah, Gloria Grahame. Would that she could of couldn’t said no to me.

  198. Mr. Anon says:
    @Bragadocious

    Do they think that they’re in possession of superior facts that can reverse people’s opinions? Or is this just about making bald threats?

    They are just concerned with what is good for the reprobate in question, as in “if you know what’s good for you…………..”.

  199. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @CAL2

    What is the name of the title?

  200. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheJester

    Hence Grant’s charges against the Jewish traders: trading with the enemy and profiteering off the war at the Union’s expense.

    And at the South’s expense.

  201. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious

    Do they think that they’re in possession of superior facts that can reverse people’s opinions? Or is this just about making bald threats?

    They are relatively well-skilled at argumentation, rhetoric.

  202. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Say, how did it compare to discrimination against the Irish, or the Italians, or Mexican immigrants, or the various Slavic groups?

    How did it compare to discrimination BY the Irish, Italians, or Mexicans against large scale “migration” into THEIR homelands?

  203. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I like Jack D It’s good to have an attorney who can explain legal things. It must be hard to be a Jew in this site.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  204. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @njguy73

    One theory posits that the Ashkenazim are the mixing of Semitic Jews with Armenians.

    Is that why someone said Mark Krikorian is related to Jews?

  205. @BB753

    Adm. Hyman G. Rickover (USN) see wiki for details

  206. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    You’re right that seems to be how it happened.

  207. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    for we foresee therefrom the same difficulties which you fear.

    What sort of problems were foreseen that the Jews would cause?

  208. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johann Ricke

    That is in part why we intervened in Yugoslavia and not in Rwanda

    We intervened in Yugoslavia to destroy a talented White Christian ethnic group.

  209. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    If Stuyvesant had prevailed, would Emma Lazarus have been a resident the United States, and her poem attached to the Statue of Liberty?

  210. guest says:
    @Jack D

    The name I was given is Asser Levy, and he is said to have migrated to Amsterdam from present-day Lithuania via Poland, thence to the New World.

  211. @Anon

    Don’t be sad. Jack D is quite knowledgable and readably informative about a great many subjects; the word maven comes to mind. I like that Jack D.

    However, when it comes to matters of his Tribe he often engages in transparently dishonest arguments and passive-aggressive anti-gentile antipathy (e.g., search my comments history for our arguments about the meaning of “founding stock,” in which I trounced him and he slinked away without conceding).

    Therefore, when I zing Jack D it is entirely deserved. At the very least he should be adept at using better logic and honest rhetoric to defend his positions. But I don’t hate the guy—he’s a fun foil in discussions that sometimes have serious implications.

  212. @Jack D

    Did you read Stephen Birmingham’s book?

    Emma had an unrequited crush on a first cousin. (Hardly extreme in a culture where girls often married their uncles.) She might have been driven by a broken heart, as well.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  213. @BB753

    Who ever heard of a Jewish sailor?

    I served on a small ship with a few. We screwed up a burial at sea.

    We were given the ashes of a Protestant and a Jewish sailor, and did them in that order. The first one went as planned. Our one Jewish officer must have been on leave, so my enlisted colleague in the chart room, our only other Jew, was given the honor of doing the ceremony.

    We were lined up as at quarters for the second ceremony when I noticed that we still had our hats off from the first. My friend was oblivious to this, but not goyish me. I was tempted to wave my hat at him but chickened out because we were at attention. Plus, I wasn’t absolutely sure.

    Later, he confirmed that he had indeed screwed up, that I was right. But he didn’t seem too concerned. Not the most observant guy.

    Another time, he took a Jewish holiday off, but only so he could attend a concert. I warned him that Mr N, from a small town in the Ozarks, was also Jewish. He found that hard to believe. Okay, the guy lacked the urban mannerisms, but still, Mr N could have been taken for Woody Allen’s little brother.

    Mr N tut-tutted him for his behavior, but didn’t make an issue of it. Our WASPy captain (actually German) of course walked on eggs, which was what my friend was banking on.

  214. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It was common for even married wealthy women with kids to get involved with philanthropic work – you had servants to raise the kids and a lot of these women were intelligent and needed some outlet. Working at a regular job was pretty much out of the question for women of this social class at that time but doing charitable work was socially acceptable and even expected.

    But, if you were a rich “old maid” then you really had a lot of time on your hands and could devote yourself full time to “Settlement House” work or other charitable efforts. The ones who were Catholic often became nuns (e.g. Katherine Drexel) but non-Catholic ones could do more or less the same thing.

  215. Jack D says:
    @BB753

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uriah_P._Levy

    Levy bought Monticello after Jefferson’s death and saved it from ruin. He tried to leave it to the US government in his will but the government didn’t want it. It stayed in his family until the current foundation bought it in the 1920s. When the foundation was doing fundraising to buy the property, they circulated anti-Semitic legends to the effect that Levy had cheated Jefferson’s daughters out of the property. In the story, they had Levy speaking in Yiddish accented dialect. In the (completely imaginary) story, Jefferson’s daughters try to buy the place back but Levy beats them to it through shady dealings. They then plead with him to sell their patrimony back to them, which he has just purchased for $2,700 and Levy replies, “I vuld not zell it to you even for ten tousant dolers.” This would have been a strange accent for Levy since his family had been in the US for over a century by that point and he was born in Philadelphia. In reality, Jefferson’s daughters were impecunious (Jefferson died in debt) and Levy bought the place to save it at the urging of Lafayette. At the point when he bought it the previous crackpot owner was using the rotunda of Monticello to raise silk worms and the place was a mess.

    In the early decades, no one was bothered by the fact that Monticello was owned by a Jew but by the teens and 1920s, anti-Semitism in the US had really cranked up and there was popular resentment that Monticello was in “alien” hands. The earlier Sephardic and German Jews (who were few in number and often quite wealthy and aristocratic) had been outnumbered by hordes of unwashed shtetl Jews from the Pale and this really changed the image of Jews in America (to this day).

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  216. @Reg Cæsar

    So your post was pointless and inane. Got it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  217. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    In reality, Jefferson’s daughters were impecunious (Jefferson died in debt) and Levy bought the place to save it at the urging of Lafayette.

    This reads like a dodge. Were Jefferson’s daughters in fact interested in acquiring the place? Yes or no.

  218. J.Ross says: • Website
    @William Badwhite

    My internet access is about to get iffy but I assure you there are several mainstream authors who talk about this (Factory Man, End of Cheap China); China’s strength is not “natural” economic development but vast centralized coordinated deals.

  219. @William Badwhite

    So your post was pointless…

    Yet you made a point to reply. That leaves us at pointless-counterpointless.

  220. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:

    If Jews want to have a discussion about antisemitism,

    that will require a full exposition of Semitism that they have to keep secret if they value their place here.

    After all, we can’t know if we should be biased toward something unless we know what that something is in full. By we, I mean the entire American public.

    The Jews don’t want that, and so neither discussion is likely to happen in-depth.

    Article’s like this are simple complaints for pudding while wanting to skip the meat. Its axiomatic that adults do not let such children have their way.

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