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The Washington Post, which is kind of the company newsletter of Empire Inc., has been particularly berserk about Trump. For example:

Trump’s ‘Pocahontas’ attack leaves fellow Republicans squirming (again)

By Matea Gold, Karoun Demirjian and Mike DeBonis June 10 at 10:19 PM

It was a bad time for Sen. Cory Gardner to be caught in an elevator with a reporter. Donald Trump had just referred to Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts as ­“Pocahontas” — again — and the Republican freshman from Colorado was struggling to figure out how to respond.

The term of art is actually “Fauxcahontas,” but Trump is amazingly allergic to cleverness in vocabulary.

“I think people need to be treated with respect, and that’s what we’ve demanded from everyone,” he offered.

But was it racist?

Gardner clammed up. He politely referred further questions to his press secretary.

So it went for Republicans on Capitol Hill on Friday, forced to contend with yet another provocative comment by their presumptive presidential nominee — clambering for safety as Trump launched another boundary-pushing attack.

“Get used to it,” said Republican pollster Whit Ayres, a Trump critic. “This is your life for the next five months.”

The furor over Trump’s assaults on the impartiality of a Latino judge had just begun to subside when he lobbed two tweets Friday morning responding to Warren, who had lambasted him as a “thin-skinned, racist bully” in a speech the previous evening.

“Pocahontas is at it again!” Trump wrote in one. “Goofy Elizabeth Warren, one of the least productive U.S. Senators, has a nasty mouth.”

“No, seriously — Delete your account,” Warren tweeted back. …

The real estate developer has repeatedly invoked the ­17th-century Native American figure to refer to Warren, an allusion to controversy about her heritage. The senator has said she grew up amid family stories about her Cherokee lineage, but that account has not been proved.

Trump began going after Warren’s claimed ancestry earlier this year, responding to the senator’s repeated slams of him as a “loser” and a bully. “Who’s that, the Indian?” he said at a March news conference when asked about Warren. “You mean the Indian?” …

The “Pocahontas” line spurred chatter at former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney’s ideas summit Friday in Park City, Utah, where some attendees said they were aghast at Trump’s many race-based lines of attack.

Stuart Stevens — the chief strategist on Romney’s 2012 presidential bid, who, like Romney, has vowed not to vote for Trump — said the candidate’s use of “Pocahontas” to attack Warren was both racist and inappropriate. …

Romney told CNN on Friday that he was worried Trump’s language could lead to “trickle-down racism” in the country.

When asked why he persists in calling Warren “Pocahontas” and what he makes of the alarm it has caused among some Republicans, Trump responded bluntly in a statement Friday: “Because she is a nasty person, a terrible U.S. Senator, and it drives her crazy.”

“The Republicans should find it offensive that she scammed the system by faking her heritage, not that I am unafraid to point that out,” he continued in the statement, which was provided by his spokeswoman, Hope Hicks. “Actually, Goofy Elizabeth, her nickname, is far worse.” …

Stephanie Fryberg, an associate professor of psychology and American Indian studies at the University of Washington, said her studies have found that exposing Native American children to images of Pocahontas lowered their sense of collective self-worth.

“Mr. Trump’s comments reinforce broad stereotypes of Native Americans as Indian chiefs, mascots and princesses, rather than contemporary people who are contributing to society,” she said, adding: “He’s not using the term in any way to be honorific. He using it to mock her.”

Trump has repeatedly rejected the notion that he is playing to racial fears in his campaign. “I am the least-racist person that you’ve ever encountered,” he told The Washington Post on Thursday.

Trump has been accused of peddling Native American stereotypes in the past. In 1993, he created an uproar at a House subcommittee hearing by testifying that “organized crime is rampant” in Indian casinos around the nation. At the time, the developer was fighting the expansion of gambling on tribal lands, a direct threat to his casino empire.

Trump also questioned the legitimacy of the Mashantucket Pequots, who operate the Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut.

“They don’t look like Indians to me,” he said. “And they don’t look like Indians to Indians.”

That sounded more interesting than the WaPo article, which wasn’t going to tell me what Trump was talking about because the 3 reporters were having such a bad case of the vapors.

So I Googled “Mashantucket Pequots leaders.”

It’s hard to find online large sized pictures of the leadership of the tribe.

The pictures tend to be pretty small on the tribe’s website.

In a newspaper I found:

Thomas brothers punished by Mashantuckets

The Mashantucket Pequot Tribe has banned Michael Thomas, left, and his brother Steven, each of whom has been convicted of stealing from the tribe.

79 13 Published March 17. 2014 1:00PM | Updated March 18. 2014 12:25AM

By Brian Hallenbeck, Day staff writer

Mashantucket — In voting last week to “banish” Michael and Steven Thomas, the former Mashantucket Pequot leaders convicted of corruption, the tribe’s elders council followed tribal by-laws that call for such punishment.

But the practical effect of the votes remained unclear Monday to some tribal members, none of whom would speak on the record.

Michael Thomas, the former tribal chairman, is currently serving an 18-month sentence in federal prison. His younger brother, Steven, a former tribal treasurer, will be allowed to continue living on the reservation and working at the tribe’s Foxwoods Resort Casino, according to a notice of the action taken against him.

One tribal member called the terms of Steven Thomas’ banishment “ludicrous” and unlike any ever previously imposed by the elders council. A tribal spokesman did not respond to requests for comment.

So the Mashantucket Pequots appear to be what’s known as a tri-racial isolate. Back in 2000 60 Minutes asked “Are Pequots Reallu Pequots?

The two Indian casinos I’ve been to downplayed liquor consumption. The Barona resort was completely dry and the San Miguel had very small bars and few gamblers were drinking, even though I visited on May 5 (Cinco de Mayo). I thought that was a pretty sporting attitude by management, so I’m pretty positive toward Indian casinos. But I don’t like gambling, so I don’t know if other Indian casinos are like that.

From the Utne Reader 17 years ago:

Pequot Tribe Members Hit the Genetic Jackpot: How native blood paid out for some African Americans
by Leslie Goffe, from Emerge
May-June 1999

If Vincent A. Sebastian Jr. didn’t tell you he was Native American, you wouldn’t know. He looks African American. In fact, for most of Sebastian’s 38 years, he was poor and black, but nowadays he’s Indian, too. He’s also rich, and one of the 600 or so members of the Mashantucket Pequot of Connecticut.

Sebastian grew up aware of his Pequot (pronounced pee-kwat) ancestry, but never paid it much mind until word spread that the tribe wanted its people, scattered from New England to New Mexico, to come home. “I saw myself, back then, as just black, Afro-American,” laughs Sebastian. “Today I consider myself a black, Afro-American Indian.”

Why the bizarre racial transformation? Cultural pride and ancestral roots are among the reasons, but some see a one-word answer: money.

To be Pequot is to be part owner of a billion-dollar casino business that guarantees a job, free health care, education, and a housing subsidy—on or off the reservation. Before he was accepted for membership 11 years ago, Sebastian had been living in the Roger Williams Homes public housing complex in south Providence, Rhode Island, driving a tow truck, and doing odd jobs.

Today, he directs the Pequot Office of Youth Services and has a stake in Foxwoods Resort Casino, the world’s largest, most successful casino complex. In fiscal 1998, Foxwoods grossed more than $660 million from slot machines alone (plus revenue from card games, roulette, pari-mutuel betting, several hotels, more than 20 restaurants, a shopping mall, and a 1,500-seat theater complex where Bill Cosby, B.B. King, and Celine Dion have appeared).

Sebastian’s paternal great-grandfather’s tribe membership guaranteed his admission. In 1910 and 1930, the U.S. Census Bureau classified those with “mixed Indian blood” as “Indian.” By 1950, those once classified “Indian” were considered “other” or “Negro.” Today, in the Pequot case, the names of ancestors must appear on U.S. Census rolls for the Mashantucket reservation in 1900 or 1910. About 600 people apply for membership each year; for every person accepted, a hundred are turned away, according to the Pequot Enrollment Committee.

America has been getting more federally recognized Indian tribes over the decades. For example, in 2009 the Obama Administration recognized the Shinnecocks of the Hamptons on Long Island as an official tribe after a three decade legal struggle (because they look at least as black as they are Indian), entitling them to open one casino next to the posh terrain of the National Golf Links of America and Shinnecock Hills Golf Club. But from 2014:

Shinnecock Indian Nation Disbands Tribal Gaming Authority
Oct 1, 2014 10:20 AM
By Michael Wright

With the Shinnecock Indian Nation’s casino plans shelved and the specter of an FBI investigation and unsolved arson swirling, members of the tribe voted earlier this month to disband the tribe’s Gaming Authority.

Support for disbanding the five-member Gaming Authority was broad but not unanimous. The vote was 110-41 for the dissolution of the authority, according to tallies shared with The Press by a tribal source. Tribal leaders have not responded to requests for information about the vote.

The sentiment among tribe members about the Gaming Authority’s dealings over the last 10 years had been swung to doubt and suspicion, one tribe member said.

I actually kind of like Elizabeth Warren, as I explained in VDARE back in 2003. But she and Harvard Law School claiming that she brought Diversity to HLS was pretty embarrassing because law professors, especially ones from Oklahoma, are supposed to understand how Indian tribal membership works. It’s not a one-drop rule where your belief that one of your 32 great-great-great-grandparents was a Cherokee entitles you to Pokemon Points. Either you are on the Cherokee nation membership list or you’re not.

And Warren is not.

 
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  1. Shoulda-woulda-coulda claims of Cherokee ancestry (“great-granddad was too PROUD to register as an Indian, he didn’t want to go on the dole, you see…!”) are rampant in Oklahoma family lore.

    Warren has had plenty of time to take a 23andme type test to see if there was any truth to her family’s vague stories and if she had found anything helpful she would have leaked it to the media. She has almost certainly quietly checked her ancestry and discovered to her dismay that she is 100% white.

    • Replies: @anowow
    Trump should use the term pretendian. How would the media react to that?
    , @Jefferson
    "Warren has had plenty of time to take a 23andme type test to see if there was any truth to her family’s vague stories and if she had found anything helpful she would have leaked it to the media. She has almost certainly quietly checked her ancestry and discovered to her dismay that she is 100% white."

    Even if her ancestry results came back saying she is only 0.1% Amerindian, that would be enough for Elizabeth Warren to come out and say "See I told you all I am a Person Of Color, I am not remotely White, I am nowhere close to being White".

    , @MSP
    Agreed. My side of the family from Oklahoma always talked about being part Cherokee; just for grins I got a genetic test done and was 99% Western European and 1% sub-Saharan African. Stories might have been in place to explain some darker than expected skin tones.
    , @ben tillman

    Warren has had plenty of time to take a 23andme type test to see if there was any truth to her family’s vague stories and if she had found anything helpful she would have leaked it to the media. She has almost certainly quietly checked her ancestry and discovered to her dismay that she is 100% white.
     
    She might be 100% White AND have Cherokee ancestry. It just depends on how meiosis shuffled the cards over the generations. The 23andme test could not prove she doesn't have Indian ancestry.
  2. Lizzy Warren is now a “race”?

    Commence cloning immediately! For Great Justice!!

  3. So who dun shot up the gay night club? We all know the WHOM. We’re all waiting for the WHO.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    According to the Orlando Sentinel, "The Federal Bureau of Investigation is assisting. Agents say they cannot rule this out as an act of domestic terrorism and that the suspect, who is not from Orlando, may have leanings toward extreme Islamic ideologies." Sounds to me like some white guy from Appalachia, a typical Trump supporter. We all know how prone to violence Trump supporters are, especially toward gays.
    , @Jefferson
    "So who dun shot up the gay night club? We all know the WHOM. We’re all waiting for the WHO."

    Another case of Muslims behaving badly. Instead of blaming the violent culture of Islam, the mainstream media will somehow find a way to blame it on Donald Trump.

    I would also like to know the status of this Muslim, meaning was he an immigrant? Or if he was born in The U.S, are his parents immigrants? There is no way he came from a pre-1965 immigration act American family.
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    Some redneck Bible-basher called Omar Mateen.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Son of Afghan immigrants. They think he has links to Islamic radicals.
    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    What's fascinating is the number of ways this can be spun: LGBT, terrorism, migration, and guns. Crooked Hillary will go for LGBT and guns; Don the Con will go for terrorism and migration.

    Which will win out| My prognosis: LGBT. Whenever misfortune befalls the LGBT, their prestige rises. It largely started with AIDS.

    Prediction: Clinton will name Barney Frank her vice president, to capitalize on the pro-gay sentimentalism and to reignite her campaign for the first woman president with the first gay vice president.

  4. The MSM is breaking the word racist on this one.

  5. The name Pequod (same as Pequot) for Ahab’s ship was probably chosen by Melville because the tribe was extinct.

  6. I saw this on the 60 Minutes site, which did not elaborate:

    Since CBS News aired its original broadcast, the Pequot tribal council, which now includes two convicted felons, has dropped the requirement that members of the tribe have any Pequot blood at all. The membership has doubled since 1995 to more than 600 people.

    It would be interesting to find out who sits on the Pequot enrolment committee but the ‘tribe’s’ website doesn’t seem, interestingly, to show this.

  7. @Fiddlesticks
    Shoulda-woulda-coulda claims of Cherokee ancestry ("great-granddad was too PROUD to register as an Indian, he didn't want to go on the dole, you see...!") are rampant in Oklahoma family lore.

    Warren has had plenty of time to take a 23andme type test to see if there was any truth to her family's vague stories and if she had found anything helpful she would have leaked it to the media. She has almost certainly quietly checked her ancestry and discovered to her dismay that she is 100% white.

    Trump should use the term pretendian. How would the media react to that?

  8. What if…what if we extended this special casino-operating right to blacks? But, again as for the Indians, we made it scarce, inducing them to police membership?

    Steve has spoken eloquently of “the flight from white”. Casino rights for blacks judged “black enough” by other blacks could be the solution.

    It would be nice if we could have, at long last, a program that concentrated its benefits on the most African of African Americans, while leaving the Valerie Jarretts and Susan Rices outside, where they’d have to compete on equal terms with white people.

    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @Anon
    No more special programs or set asides. If you can't compete on a level field, it's either because you don't want to try, or your genes are totally worthless and shouldn't be passed on.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I think the casino business is stretched pretty thin. If we gave blacks the legal right to peddle drugs in their communities, they could take better advantage of it.
  9. @Fiddlesticks
    Shoulda-woulda-coulda claims of Cherokee ancestry ("great-granddad was too PROUD to register as an Indian, he didn't want to go on the dole, you see...!") are rampant in Oklahoma family lore.

    Warren has had plenty of time to take a 23andme type test to see if there was any truth to her family's vague stories and if she had found anything helpful she would have leaked it to the media. She has almost certainly quietly checked her ancestry and discovered to her dismay that she is 100% white.

    “Warren has had plenty of time to take a 23andme type test to see if there was any truth to her family’s vague stories and if she had found anything helpful she would have leaked it to the media. She has almost certainly quietly checked her ancestry and discovered to her dismay that she is 100% white.”

    Even if her ancestry results came back saying she is only 0.1% Amerindian, that would be enough for Elizabeth Warren to come out and say “See I told you all I am a Person Of Color, I am not remotely White, I am nowhere close to being White”.

  10. I have roots in Oklahoma going back to the early 1980s. Back then, many still tended to hide their Amerindian heritage. Now, with the financial largesse and benefits associated with being Indian, it seems that everyone in Oklahoma with cold black hair claims they are Cherokee. (Did Elizabeth Warren try this same stunt to get affirmative action credits at Harvard?)

    This has a strange twist to it. The “Indians” running up and down the sidelines at University of Oklahoma football games were real Indians. They enjoyed the notoriety and their sideline game seats. However, as a homage to political correctness, the practice was discontinued as racist. It stereotyped and depreciated Indians they said. As standard practice, the Liberal Left seems to insist that everyone, including targeted minorities, accept their narrative of White oppression and guilt regardless of what the minorities might think of the issues.

    This same guilt-laced narrative is being pressed to ban the name “Washington Redskins”. Polls suggest that most Indian communities have no issue with the name. To me and others (including Indians apparently), the word “Redskins” conjures up a positive image of football players who are going to do really violent things on the field. The Red Mesa high school football team on the Navajo Nation Reservation is called the “Redskins”. But perhaps the Left thinks that something like “Toadskins” would be more appropriate, at least until PETA enters the fray.

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Jester, I have a long association with American Indians from my years in steel construction. Worked with them, visited them and enjoyed each other's company. The term that I heard more often was "skins", a shortened version of Redskins, but more often than not it was NAs referring to other NAs. Recently the city of Buffalo Common Council (an apt name) voted to change the name of a small island in the Niagara River from Squaw Island to Unity Island. Some SJWs convinced the Council that the term squaw meant or referred to vagina. No research was necessary, just a rush to avoid slurring NA women. I never, ever heard a NA refer to a vagina as a squaw or vice versa.......they used the more common "C" word. Who knew.
    , @Jefferson
    "Now, with the financial largesse and benefits associated with being Indian, it seems that everyone in Oklahoma with cold black hair claims they are Cherokee."

    This means Collin Farrell and Catherine Zeta Jones for example can claim to be Cherokee in Oklahoma, because nobody would ever mistake them for blondes or gingers. They wouldn't even be considered light haired by Southern European standards, let alone light haired by Northern European standards.
  11. @Fiddlesticks
    Shoulda-woulda-coulda claims of Cherokee ancestry ("great-granddad was too PROUD to register as an Indian, he didn't want to go on the dole, you see...!") are rampant in Oklahoma family lore.

    Warren has had plenty of time to take a 23andme type test to see if there was any truth to her family's vague stories and if she had found anything helpful she would have leaked it to the media. She has almost certainly quietly checked her ancestry and discovered to her dismay that she is 100% white.

    Agreed. My side of the family from Oklahoma always talked about being part Cherokee; just for grins I got a genetic test done and was 99% Western European and 1% sub-Saharan African. Stories might have been in place to explain some darker than expected skin tones.

  12. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Warren is a scammer who managed to cash in with her fake Indian ancestry. One look and anyone can see she’s no Indian yet there was some code of silence where everyone pretended she was and that she was a ‘minority’ professor. Let this joke come to an end and call her out on this.

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    I noticed the other day that my son recently checked "White" and "Native American" on a form. He's got enough in him to carry some of the phenotype- skin tone, the epicanthic fold, etc. He grinned and said, "If Senator Pocahantas of Massachusetts can do it, so can I."

    On the gaming for gaming: nothing summed up the rot of the Republican party for me like the Jack Abramoff scandal did. It seemed like have the party establishment was caught up in that sordid mess- it just kept spreading the rot around more and more. I was waiting to see if some Israeli arms deal was part of it. And there were those weird intersections of Sailerbait galore.

    , @Jefferson
    "Warren is a scammer who managed to cash in with her fake Indian ancestry. One look and anyone can see she’s no Indian"

    Drop Elizabeth Warren off in Bolivia for example and let's see how many of the New World Amerindian Native Americans there would think she is racially one of them.
    , @ben tillman

    Warren is a scammer who managed to cash in with her fake Indian ancestry. One look and anyone can see she’s no Indian....
     
    She said she was 1/32. You can't tell by looking whether that's true.
  13. Fauxcohontas
    Chief Spreading Bull
    Lieawatha

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
    Don't forget Crockagawea.
    , @CJ
    Others I've seen:

    Sackadabullshit
    Chief Gray Beaver
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    I’m partial to Princess Yellow Hair.
    , @SteveRogers42
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81KIjCCuvCo
  14. Why, I can’t even. I mean—can you even believe it? In 2016! Really? This is so not who we are.

  15. @anon
    So who dun shot up the gay night club? We all know the WHOM. We're all waiting for the WHO.

    According to the Orlando Sentinel, “The Federal Bureau of Investigation is assisting. Agents say they cannot rule this out as an act of domestic terrorism and that the suspect, who is not from Orlando, may have leanings toward extreme Islamic ideologies.” Sounds to me like some white guy from Appalachia, a typical Trump supporter. We all know how prone to violence Trump supporters are, especially toward gays.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "According to the Orlando Sentinel, “The Federal Bureau of Investigation is assisting. Agents say they cannot rule this out as an act of domestic terrorism and that the suspect, who is not from Orlando, may have leanings toward extreme Islamic ideologies.” Sounds to me like some white guy from Appalachia, a typical Trump supporter. We all know how prone to violence Trump supporters are, especially toward gays."

    Of course it was a Donald Trump supporter. Go to the nearest local mosque where you live and you will see all of the Muslims wearing "Make America Great Again" caps.
  16. @anon
    So who dun shot up the gay night club? We all know the WHOM. We're all waiting for the WHO.

    “So who dun shot up the gay night club? We all know the WHOM. We’re all waiting for the WHO.”

    Another case of Muslims behaving badly. Instead of blaming the violent culture of Islam, the mainstream media will somehow find a way to blame it on Donald Trump.

    I would also like to know the status of this Muslim, meaning was he an immigrant? Or if he was born in The U.S, are his parents immigrants? There is no way he came from a pre-1965 immigration act American family.

  17. You know what else is racist? Lassooing bikestealing perps in Walmart parking lots as if they were old school cattle rustlers.

  18. I hung with the progressives for a long time at the now defunct Fire Dog Lake. Many disgruntled and some former Democrats in the com boxes and a few actual lefties. I made some friends there but was generally hated for my defense of Ron Paul. I am quite familiar with the views of today’s Bernie supporters. Fauxcahontas was very popular with these folks when she was saying that Hillary was a tool of Wall Street. Now that she has endorsed Hillary I predict her popularity will evaporate. Warren has done more to bring herself down than to lift Hillary up.

  19. Leftist conservative [AKA "corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway"] says: • Website

    I actually kind of like Elizabeth Warren, as I explained in VDARE back in 2003. But she and Harvard Law School claiming that she brought Diversity to HLS was pretty embarrassing because law professors, especially ones from Oklahoma, are supposed to understand how Indian tribal membership works. It’s not a one-drop rule where your belief that one of your 32 great-great-great-grandparents was a Cherokee entitles you to Pokemon Points. Either you are on the Cherokee nation membership list or you’re not.

    And Warren is not.

    The applications do not ask whether the applicant is an official member of a particular indian tribe. The applications offer several checkboxes, i.e., white, black, hispanic, indian. You check one or more of the checkboxes. You are required to be truthful. Warren was truthful. She checked both white and indian (native american, whatever).

    I myself have a comanche indian ancestor from when my ancestors lived in northwest texas over 100 years ago. Unlike warren, I have seen a photo of my comanche ancestor. But I am not a member of the comanche tribe because I do not have a high enough percentage of comanche ancestry. But when I applied (and eventually obtained and then retired from) a federal job, I marked white and indian. Because I am white and indian. I told the truth.

    See, this is why steve sailer is not a good representative/Thought Leader for the white populist revolution–he actually supports the establishment. Trump is leading this revolution because he wants to subvert and undermine the current anti-white race-spoils regime. Steve Sailer wants to perpetuate it. Sailer is like an establishment mole seeking to subvert this populist revolution. Many say hitler played the same role in 1920s germany– a faux working class populist.

    Many white americans have some smidgen of indian ancestry. As a person who wants to subvert and end this anti-white establishment, I encourage all whites who possibly can do so, to claim indian heritage. Steve Sailer does not.

    I applaud liz warren for helping to undermine and subvert the establishment.

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    "Warren was truthful."

    Except for the having any Native American ancestry at all part. She has none. Zero. Nada. Zip.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Corporate, I just finished reading "Empire of the Summer Moon" by S.C. Gwynne, basically the historical tale of the rise and fall of your Comanche ancestors. A recommendable and easy read.
  20. Racist?

    Didn’t the Cherokees, of which Warren supposedly shares heritage, deny blacks membership in the tribe a few years back, and didn’t the Federal government threaten to revoke their Indian welfare money as a consequence?

  21. About five years ago I had some business dealings with several Shinnecock members. They looked somewhat Mexican, somewhat Middle Eastern, but mainly were a distinctive group.

  22. It’s striking how different American Indian tribes and descendants of slaves have treated their heritage–and are treated by U.S. society in terms of heritage. There’s a lot of grist for future historians to write theses about this, if they get bold enough.

    While Warren’s lies about being an American Indian have dogged her in an annoying but not destructive way, Rachel Dolezal’s claims of being black were met with both extreme derision (the Twitter hastag #askrachel was pretty funny) and national outrage (became a national story, and many folks called for her to drop her job with the NAACP).

    Indian tribal identity has always been pretty official, even in the pre-casino days. How many old Western stories and movies and tales had scenes where the white guy went through a ceremony to become an “official” member of X tribe? Happened a lot. I also remember as a kid reading Where the Red Fern Grows and the protagonist making mention of the fact that the family came to own their property because his mother was X-percentage of the local Indian tribe. In short, American Indian tribal membership was always a kind of formal or quasi-formal situation.

    In contrast, the descendants of slaves have never really had any official way of denoting former slave membership (except for a few years in the aftermath of the Civil War). Race was clearly the only way to denote former slaves. Unlike American Indians reds–whose racial differences were harder to tell from whites—descendants of slaves were more easily marked off as “other” by sight alone. And former slaves didn’t seem to band together and form tribal organizations to separate themselves from whtiey.

    Of course we could ascribe this all to U.S government policy. The U.S. Constitution has sections that officially recognize and set up procedures for dealing with American Indian tribes. And the concept of reservations was made for them. In contrast, descendants of slaves, after being freed, had far fewer national procedures set up to deal with them—the only things were Reconstruction laws (which ended in 1876). Then the 1960s came along and suddenly being officially black put you in a higher caste than non-blacks. But still, it’s largely a visual thing: black skin? You’re black.

    But somehow I think blaming U.S. Government policy is really claiming the tail was wagging the dog.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    How many old Western stories and movies and tales had scenes where the white guy went through a ceremony to become an “official” member of X tribe? Happened a lot ... American Indian tribal membership was always a kind of formal or quasi-formal situation.
     
    You've watched too many movies, kemosabe. Indian tribes are exactly that—people "join" by passing through a squaw's birth canal.
  23. Trump’s ‘Pocahontas’ attack leaves fellow Republicans squirming (again)

    When I saw him deliver the Pocahontas jibe at a press conference; I laughed like a drain.

    Given her background of claiming to be of American-Indian stock, the epithet seems…er.. Warranted. As a Brit I’m gutted I can’t vote for the Donald.

  24. Could this also be the explanation for the extreme low fertility rate of American Indians in the US, that is so at odds with the higher rates measured everywhere else in the Americas for natives? I mean, we all know that these 1/64 cherokee Fauxcahontas don’t really have lots of children, but are there enough of them to drive down American Indian fertility rates to a rate of 1.4ish?

  25. There’s a long history of blacks passing as Indians, and it’s clearly the legacy of past racism. It’s hard to blame a 1/4 black guy in 1860 Virginia for saying he’s an Indian. But it’s totally fair to blame a white in 2016 for saying she’s an Indian, because of how the law is now openly hostile to whites. It’s a complete reversal of the ethical situation that apparently eludes the moral geniuses at the WaPo.

    Trump is doing a good thing in exposing our silly racial reverse-caste system. The average person thinks affirmative action is just extra points for minorities in college admissions. But its ugly tentacles are all over the place – Indian casinos, race-based scholarships, and the worst one of all, race-based government contracting programs. I’d love to see Trump make a cause of the fact that a filthy-rich Hong Konger or high-caste Asian Indian can immigrate to the US and go right to the front of the federal contracting line because racism. Indian and Chinese immigrants are far more racist and privileged than American whites, but the federal government considers them just as disadvantaged as a black guy from inner-city Baltimore. NASA is a good example. It’s now full of Indians, so being Indian of course gets you a big leg up in getting a job at NASA. Then, after you get 15 or 20 years in, you quit NASA and start an SDB-qualified business and start raking in the contracts. Whites don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting a small business contract from NASA.

    What’s really galling is how immigration boosters always talk about how so many immigrants start high-tech companies. Yeah, it’s because the government gives them special privileges to do it. Even a business that is really run by whites has to get a minority figurehead so they qualify for the benefits. It is such a fat target – I’ve been waiting for years for someone with an audience to point this out.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    What’s really galling is how immigration boosters always talk about how so many immigrants start high-tech companies. Yeah, it’s because the government gives them special privileges to do it.
     
    Excellent point, we don't hear that said enough.


    Even a business that is really run by whites has to get a minority figurehead so they qualify for the benefits. It is such a fat target – I’ve been waiting for years for someone with an audience to point this out.
     
    Isn't that how supposed many businesses operate in South Africa? White people administer the business while a Big Man gets to be nominally in charge.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "What’s really galling is how immigration boosters always talk about how so many immigrants start high-tech companies. Yeah, it’s because the government gives them special privileges to do it."

    Yes, that is quite true. Companies that can claim 8a status can get SBA loans on favorable terms and preferential treatment in government contracting.

    Another thing which goes unmentioned is that the government uses a lot of minority-owned small businesses to staff NASA, DoE, and military R&D centers. Those companies are probably classed as "high-tech" even though they are just job-shops, and provide no more real service than does a temp agency. But - voila - "high-tech" companies created by immigrants!
    , @Eric Novak
    Your affirmative action tentacles don't reach nearly far enough. Affirmative action set-asides and quotas in hiring are policy in every large company in the US. Fear of discrimination lawsuits with damages costing millions and the imposition of civil rights oversight in hiring by an EEOC judge has created a racial-preferences system that the authors of civil rights law swore could not and would not happen. Mexican, Arab, and African immigrants don't get $60K jobs with utility companies because of their educational and test qualifications. Nobody gets this fundamental effect of affirmative action policies.
  26. @International Jew
    What if...what if we extended this special casino-operating right to blacks? But, again as for the Indians, we made it scarce, inducing them to police membership?

    Steve has spoken eloquently of "the flight from white". Casino rights for blacks judged "black enough" by other blacks could be the solution.

    It would be nice if we could have, at long last, a program that concentrated its benefits on the most African of African Americans, while leaving the Valerie Jarretts and Susan Rices outside, where they'd have to compete on equal terms with white people.

    No more special programs or set asides. If you can’t compete on a level field, it’s either because you don’t want to try, or your genes are totally worthless and shouldn’t be passed on.

  27. How would you say “Fauxahontas” out loud? “Foxahontas” would make her sound foxy, or something to do with Fox News, but the French pronunciation of “faux” would result in, what, “fo-a-hontas”? Seems like a clever term that works only in print.

    But I don’t have cable anymore so I don’t know how the talking heads handle it.

    • Replies: @Pseudonymic Handle
    "FOE-KA-HON-TIS"

    Rhymes with Pocahontas

    Though Jokeahontas is also acceptable

    , @CJ
    Fo-ka-hontas, to rhyme exactly with Pocahontas. Trump could use it, and if questioned on it could say, "No, Fauxcahontas, it's some French I learned from John Kerry."
    , @jeremiahjohnbalaya
    foh-kahantus
    , @ben tillman

    How would you say “Fauxahontas” out loud?
     
    You wouldn't. The name is "Fauxcahontas", with a "c".
  28. The term of art is actually “Fauxcahontas,” but Trump is amazingly allergic to cleverness in vocabulary.

    That was my first reaction. But we get the joke because we know what Faux means. How many people who didn’t go to college know what it means, and won’t find it a bit hifalutin when they do?

    I have to give Trump the win on this choice of words.

  29. I just call her a dime store Indian.

    As for her politics, she had potential, but she succumbed to the same problem that most otherwise sincere liberal populists always do: The social justice warriorism of the left. And now, she has openly endorsed a woman who she not so long ago called a Wall Street shill.

  30. @anon
    So who dun shot up the gay night club? We all know the WHOM. We're all waiting for the WHO.

    Some redneck Bible-basher called Omar Mateen.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    You confirmed my initial impression. BTW when did Omar catch on as a popular first name in the Bible belt? Was there another Great Awakening that I somehow missed?
  31. @anon
    So who dun shot up the gay night club? We all know the WHOM. We're all waiting for the WHO.

    Son of Afghan immigrants. They think he has links to Islamic radicals.

  32. @International Jew
    What if...what if we extended this special casino-operating right to blacks? But, again as for the Indians, we made it scarce, inducing them to police membership?

    Steve has spoken eloquently of "the flight from white". Casino rights for blacks judged "black enough" by other blacks could be the solution.

    It would be nice if we could have, at long last, a program that concentrated its benefits on the most African of African Americans, while leaving the Valerie Jarretts and Susan Rices outside, where they'd have to compete on equal terms with white people.

    I think the casino business is stretched pretty thin. If we gave blacks the legal right to peddle drugs in their communities, they could take better advantage of it.

  33. Many of the NE tribes were called MoNigs (no racism intended, this was the exact word used) by the locals due to their …take a guess….

    law professors, especially ones from Oklahoma, are supposed to understand how Indian tribal membership works.

    Stating the obvious but Oklahoma has a very high Indian blood component. Check out Anita Hill’s high cheekbones if you like. Where did Kate Moss gets hers from? She is serially non-politically correct probably because she has earned all her millions.

  34. Trans-gender/trans-racial. What’s the difference? If I’m forced to accept one fantasy then why not the other?

  35. OT – NYT as Pravda strikes again. An Islamic terrorist shot up a gay nightclub in Orlando overnight – at least 20 dead. The NY Times story does not mention that the guy was a Muslim. I’m sure 99% of the readership at this point must think that it was a gay hating white guy Trump supporter. You need to read the Daily Mail to get the truth. All the new that’s FIT to print indeed.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Update - NYT has updated the story to say the I word. But for hours they didn't have it.
  36. The whole Pequot thing was driven and funded by white guys with casino interests. The “Pequots” were a bunch of black people living in trailers in the backwoods of Connecticut until the white guys wanted to get a casino license. You could not find a better example of the cynical rottenness of our whole system. It’s not socialism, it’s more like Putinism where you have government assisted crony capitalism with rent seekers in collaboration with people inside the government who then split the take. At least Putin pretends to put his own people first.

    • Replies: @utu
    "he whole Pequot thing was driven and funded by white guys with casino interests. The “Pequots” were a bunch of black people living in trailers in the backwoods of Connecticut until the white guys wanted to get a casino license. " - Exactly! The casinos by Indians was tested first in South Africa by Jewish Israeli investors in Bantustans. Remember Jack Abramoff ?
    , @Daniel H
    >>The “Pequots” were a bunch of black people living in trailers in the backwoods of Connecticut until the white guys wanted to get a casino license.

    Don't forget the mysterious Chinese-Malaysian billionaire who provided the financing. A modern day Corleone.
  37. @Jack D
    OT - NYT as Pravda strikes again. An Islamic terrorist shot up a gay nightclub in Orlando overnight - at least 20 dead. The NY Times story does not mention that the guy was a Muslim. I'm sure 99% of the readership at this point must think that it was a gay hating white guy Trump supporter. You need to read the Daily Mail to get the truth. All the new that's FIT to print indeed.

    Update – NYT has updated the story to say the I word. But for hours they didn’t have it.

    • Replies: @pepperinmono
    Terrible tragedy
    However, may help Trump
    , @Divine Right
    A commenter on Facebook alleged that the SkyNews version of the story originally insinuated that white supremacists were behind it.
  38. @anonymous
    Warren is a scammer who managed to cash in with her fake Indian ancestry. One look and anyone can see she's no Indian yet there was some code of silence where everyone pretended she was and that she was a 'minority' professor. Let this joke come to an end and call her out on this.

    I noticed the other day that my son recently checked “White” and “Native American” on a form. He’s got enough in him to carry some of the phenotype- skin tone, the epicanthic fold, etc. He grinned and said, “If Senator Pocahantas of Massachusetts can do it, so can I.”

    On the gaming for gaming: nothing summed up the rot of the Republican party for me like the Jack Abramoff scandal did. It seemed like have the party establishment was caught up in that sordid mess- it just kept spreading the rot around more and more. I was waiting to see if some Israeli arms deal was part of it. And there were those weird intersections of Sailerbait galore.

  39. The episode of The Sopranos titled “Christopher” had some funny bits regarding Indians and fake Indians. Tony meets with the owner of the Mohonk casino, Chief Doug Smith, to get his help suppressing some radical Indians disrupting Columbus Day festivities in Newark.

    Tony: No offense, Chief, but you don’t look much like an Indian.

    Chief Doug Smith: Frankly, I passed most of my life as white until I had a racial awakening and discovered my Mohonk blood. My grandmother on my father’s side, her mother was a quarter Mohonk.

    Tony: All this happened when the casino bill got passed, right? Better late than never.

  40. Stephanie Fryberg, an associate professor of psychology and American Indian studies at the University of Washington, said her studies have found that exposing Native American children to images of Pocahontas lowered their sense of collective self-worth.

    It’s just beyond parody now.

    The embarrassing Sunday School teacher of yesteryear now has a national by-line.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    "It’s just beyond parody now."

    I understand that other studies have found that exposing Native American children to images of Geronimo scalping a white man raised their sense of collective self-worth.
  41. utu says:
    @Jack D
    The whole Pequot thing was driven and funded by white guys with casino interests. The "Pequots" were a bunch of black people living in trailers in the backwoods of Connecticut until the white guys wanted to get a casino license. You could not find a better example of the cynical rottenness of our whole system. It's not socialism, it's more like Putinism where you have government assisted crony capitalism with rent seekers in collaboration with people inside the government who then split the take. At least Putin pretends to put his own people first.

    “he whole Pequot thing was driven and funded by white guys with casino interests. The “Pequots” were a bunch of black people living in trailers in the backwoods of Connecticut until the white guys wanted to get a casino license. ” – Exactly! The casinos by Indians was tested first in South Africa by Jewish Israeli investors in Bantustans. Remember Jack Abramoff ?

  42. @Jack D
    Update - NYT has updated the story to say the I word. But for hours they didn't have it.

    Terrible tragedy
    However, may help Trump

  43. Pocahontas is better and easier to repeat than Fauxahontas. Trump has a better feel for communicating with the masses, hence Pocahontas.
    It’s another desperate attempt by the media to label Trump as racist. How can you be racist against a white person by calling her Pocahontas?

  44. It’s funny how Elizabeth Warren decided to become a Cherokee Indian about the same time she decided to become a blonde.

  45. @Anonymous
    Fauxcohontas
    Chief Spreading Bull
    Lieawatha

    Don’t forget Crockagawea.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    I converted to iSteve for the jokes!
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Again, Unz, adding LOL button to the Agree/Disagree/Tweet would be nice.
  46. If Liz thinks she’s of Indian ancestry, then she’s of Indian ancestry – that’s the new rule, blood be damned. If Liz thinks she’s of Indian ancestry, it simply proves Trump’s point. Silly, stupid Liz, but she’s a senator, for god’s sake.

  47. @Crawfurdmuir
    Don't forget Crockagawea.

    I converted to iSteve for the jokes!

  48. When asked why he persists in calling Warren “Pocahontas” and what he makes of the alarm it has caused among some Republicans, Trump responded bluntly in a statement Friday: “Because she is a nasty person, a terrible U.S. Senator, and it drives her crazy.”

    God I hope Trump wins!

  49. …law professors, especially ones from Oklahoma, are supposed to understand how Indian tribal membership works. It’s not a one-drop rule where your belief that one of your 32 great-great-great-grandparents was a Cherokee entitles you to Pokemon Points. Either you are on the Cherokee nation membership list or you’re not.

    I live in a state where there is an exceedingly profitable Indian casino, which reportedly pays the members of the Indian band that owns it in excess of $500,000 a year per capita, free from state income tax. These people were the poorest of the poor fifty years ago, and now have wealth beyond the dreams of avarice.

    A friend of mine who is both a lawyer and a skilled genealogist tells me that there have been some interesting cases in which people have claimed to be members of this band, with the obvious motive of getting a share of the casino’s income. The band has rather strict rules of membership, and requires a high standard of genealogical documentation. It has turned away a number of would-be members on grounds of insufficient proof.

    It impresses me as a sign of how the world has changed that in the 18th or 19th centuries people of this ilk maintained (with varying degrees of legitimacy) claims to abeyant peerages and baronetcies. In the 21st century the fashionable claim is to membership in a tribe, preferably one that owns a casino, but if not, at least one that gets the claimant preferment on grounds of “diversity.” Elizabeth Warren is the Tichbourne claimant of 2016.

  50. @Jack D
    Update - NYT has updated the story to say the I word. But for hours they didn't have it.

    A commenter on Facebook alleged that the SkyNews version of the story originally insinuated that white supremacists were behind it.

  51. @whorefinder
    It's striking how different American Indian tribes and descendants of slaves have treated their heritage--and are treated by U.S. society in terms of heritage. There's a lot of grist for future historians to write theses about this, if they get bold enough.

    While Warren's lies about being an American Indian have dogged her in an annoying but not destructive way, Rachel Dolezal's claims of being black were met with both extreme derision (the Twitter hastag #askrachel was pretty funny) and national outrage (became a national story, and many folks called for her to drop her job with the NAACP).

    Indian tribal identity has always been pretty official, even in the pre-casino days. How many old Western stories and movies and tales had scenes where the white guy went through a ceremony to become an "official" member of X tribe? Happened a lot. I also remember as a kid reading Where the Red Fern Grows and the protagonist making mention of the fact that the family came to own their property because his mother was X-percentage of the local Indian tribe. In short, American Indian tribal membership was always a kind of formal or quasi-formal situation.

    In contrast, the descendants of slaves have never really had any official way of denoting former slave membership (except for a few years in the aftermath of the Civil War). Race was clearly the only way to denote former slaves. Unlike American Indians reds--whose racial differences were harder to tell from whites---descendants of slaves were more easily marked off as "other" by sight alone. And former slaves didn't seem to band together and form tribal organizations to separate themselves from whtiey.

    Of course we could ascribe this all to U.S government policy. The U.S. Constitution has sections that officially recognize and set up procedures for dealing with American Indian tribes. And the concept of reservations was made for them. In contrast, descendants of slaves, after being freed, had far fewer national procedures set up to deal with them---the only things were Reconstruction laws (which ended in 1876). Then the 1960s came along and suddenly being officially black put you in a higher caste than non-blacks. But still, it's largely a visual thing: black skin? You're black.

    But somehow I think blaming U.S. Government policy is really claiming the tail was wagging the dog.

    How many old Western stories and movies and tales had scenes where the white guy went through a ceremony to become an “official” member of X tribe? Happened a lot … American Indian tribal membership was always a kind of formal or quasi-formal situation.

    You’ve watched too many movies, kemosabe. Indian tribes are exactly that—people “join” by passing through a squaw’s birth canal.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    Actually, initiation by outsiders into an Indian tribe was a common procedure.

    Indian tribes often used captures outside members to fill up their ranks, and the deal generally was if your old tribe was killed/destroyed, the new tribe initiated you and you became a full member of the new tribe---it was both more humane than genocide and served the winning tribe's purpose of growing, while also making it attractive for weaker tribes to merely surrender to a stronger tribe and become integrated. Whites as well as reds were adopted into tribes, and usually some sort of ceremony was performed (much like new U.S. citizens are sworn in). Daniel Boone, for example, was adopted into an Indian tribe after his capture, and went through a ceremony for it (he later escaped).

    Then you get to "honorary" membership, which is like an honorary degree from a university. Men like Lucullus McWhorter were given honorary tribal membership for their work, and celebrities have gotten honorary membership at various times (Johnny Depp, for example, got honorary Comanche membership as part of the PR campaign to the disastrous Lone Ranger film). These, too, had the pomp and circumstance of ceremony.

    The recent dustup among the Cherokee was between full-members and the descendants of former black slaves. The blacks wanted a cut of the casino pie of the Cherokee. The tribe previously had allowed the blacks to claim membership , but then when the casino profits were threatened, reversed course and said the blacks hadn't been fully initiated into the tribe, thus saving the rest of the tribe the profits the blacks would have siphoned off. Initiation matters.
  52. You’re missing the fact that one of the reasons Trump’s Atlantic City casinos failed was the proliferation of Indian casinos in the Northeast-and elsewhere.

    (Of course the Vegas casinos are still around since they are owned and managed by competent people-or at least competent enough to run a casino).

    I think he’s still sore.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    Especially the Poconos and Foxwoods.

    Atlantic City has been a sinkhole for decades, and the casinos didn't cover that up or fix it. It's a dangerous, crappy town. People much preferred going to the Poconos mountains or to Foxwoods in CT than Atlantic City---safer, cleaner, no riffraff around. Even in the summer, when the seaside would be nice.

    The trouble with gambling establishments is that, in a city atmosphere, it brings prostitution, drugs, violent crime, pawn shops, loan sharking, and all manner of bad stuff. Placing casinos off in the woods or separating them somehow from the rest of town works best--the less city around, the less runoff. Indian tribes also have the advantage that they can kick you off the tribal land. Riverboats also solve this by being separate from the land, although the docks can get dicey in some towns. Cities often physically separate casinos from the rest of the city to make them safer.

    For example, Montreal, Canada has a casino, but the casino is on an island separate from the main city (similar to Governor's Island in New York City versus Manhattan) that isn't accessible from the subway, so you either have to drive there or take a bus, and there isn't any other establishment on the island besides the casino. This cuts down on the downsides of casino life, since the prostitution and crime can't hang around the grounds. The casino is thus pretty upscale/touristy and a nice day trip.

    Vegas took a small town and made it big, and it still has the bad riffraff in many parts of town, as seen in many TV specials. But Vegas also poured money into separating the main casino drags---the Strip, etc.--from the rest of town, making those areas self-contained, policing those areas well, so tourists don't feel threatened or the need to go off where the crime is unless, of course, they're into that.

    Atlantic City should have done the same as Vegas---the casinos really should self-contain and self-police. Another thing they could have done---if they thought big enough--would be to either use riverboats or build some sort of artificial island off Atlantic City that is strictly limited in access, perhaps only from the highway (Montreal's casino can only be accessed from the highways). But that's thinking way outside the box for such a dingy town.

  53. @carol
    How would you say "Fauxahontas" out loud? "Foxahontas" would make her sound foxy, or something to do with Fox News, but the French pronunciation of "faux" would result in, what, "fo-a-hontas"? Seems like a clever term that works only in print.

    But I don't have cable anymore so I don't know how the talking heads handle it.

    “FOE-KA-HON-TIS”

    Rhymes with Pocahontas

    Though Jokeahontas is also acceptable

  54. @anonymous
    Warren is a scammer who managed to cash in with her fake Indian ancestry. One look and anyone can see she's no Indian yet there was some code of silence where everyone pretended she was and that she was a 'minority' professor. Let this joke come to an end and call her out on this.

    “Warren is a scammer who managed to cash in with her fake Indian ancestry. One look and anyone can see she’s no Indian”

    Drop Elizabeth Warren off in Bolivia for example and let’s see how many of the New World Amerindian Native Americans there would think she is racially one of them.

  55. @Desiderius

    Stephanie Fryberg, an associate professor of psychology and American Indian studies at the University of Washington, said her studies have found that exposing Native American children to images of Pocahontas lowered their sense of collective self-worth.
     
    It's just beyond parody now.

    The embarrassing Sunday School teacher of yesteryear now has a national by-line.

    “It’s just beyond parody now.”

    I understand that other studies have found that exposing Native American children to images of Geronimo scalping a white man raised their sense of collective self-worth.

  56. @Jack D
    The whole Pequot thing was driven and funded by white guys with casino interests. The "Pequots" were a bunch of black people living in trailers in the backwoods of Connecticut until the white guys wanted to get a casino license. You could not find a better example of the cynical rottenness of our whole system. It's not socialism, it's more like Putinism where you have government assisted crony capitalism with rent seekers in collaboration with people inside the government who then split the take. At least Putin pretends to put his own people first.

    >>The “Pequots” were a bunch of black people living in trailers in the backwoods of Connecticut until the white guys wanted to get a casino license.

    Don’t forget the mysterious Chinese-Malaysian billionaire who provided the financing. A modern day Corleone.

  57. @Leftist conservative

    I actually kind of like Elizabeth Warren, as I explained in VDARE back in 2003. But she and Harvard Law School claiming that she brought Diversity to HLS was pretty embarrassing because law professors, especially ones from Oklahoma, are supposed to understand how Indian tribal membership works. It’s not a one-drop rule where your belief that one of your 32 great-great-great-grandparents was a Cherokee entitles you to Pokemon Points. Either you are on the Cherokee nation membership list or you’re not.

    And Warren is not.


     

    The applications do not ask whether the applicant is an official member of a particular indian tribe. The applications offer several checkboxes, i.e., white, black, hispanic, indian. You check one or more of the checkboxes. You are required to be truthful. Warren was truthful. She checked both white and indian (native american, whatever).

    I myself have a comanche indian ancestor from when my ancestors lived in northwest texas over 100 years ago. Unlike warren, I have seen a photo of my comanche ancestor. But I am not a member of the comanche tribe because I do not have a high enough percentage of comanche ancestry. But when I applied (and eventually obtained and then retired from) a federal job, I marked white and indian. Because I am white and indian. I told the truth.

    See, this is why steve sailer is not a good representative/Thought Leader for the white populist revolution--he actually supports the establishment. Trump is leading this revolution because he wants to subvert and undermine the current anti-white race-spoils regime. Steve Sailer wants to perpetuate it. Sailer is like an establishment mole seeking to subvert this populist revolution. Many say hitler played the same role in 1920s germany-- a faux working class populist.

    Many white americans have some smidgen of indian ancestry. As a person who wants to subvert and end this anti-white establishment, I encourage all whites who possibly can do so, to claim indian heritage. Steve Sailer does not.

    I applaud liz warren for helping to undermine and subvert the establishment.

    “Warren was truthful.”

    Except for the having any Native American ancestry at all part. She has none. Zero. Nada. Zip.

  58. If you are from Long Island you have heard this joke about Shinnecock’s. I know that this is a decent family blog, but I will repeat it anyway. The Shinnecock’s are also known as the Moneg tribe, because “they mo n****r than injun.”

    A joke in poor taste, but I get a kick out of it.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    As are the Wampanoag tribe in MA, currently looking for their slice of the devalued casino pie.

    http://www.mashpeewampanoagtribe.com/Tribal-Council

    The definition of high yella.
  59. @Jean Cocteausten
    There's a long history of blacks passing as Indians, and it's clearly the legacy of past racism. It's hard to blame a 1/4 black guy in 1860 Virginia for saying he's an Indian. But it's totally fair to blame a white in 2016 for saying she's an Indian, because of how the law is now openly hostile to whites. It's a complete reversal of the ethical situation that apparently eludes the moral geniuses at the WaPo.

    Trump is doing a good thing in exposing our silly racial reverse-caste system. The average person thinks affirmative action is just extra points for minorities in college admissions. But its ugly tentacles are all over the place - Indian casinos, race-based scholarships, and the worst one of all, race-based government contracting programs. I'd love to see Trump make a cause of the fact that a filthy-rich Hong Konger or high-caste Asian Indian can immigrate to the US and go right to the front of the federal contracting line because racism. Indian and Chinese immigrants are far more racist and privileged than American whites, but the federal government considers them just as disadvantaged as a black guy from inner-city Baltimore. NASA is a good example. It's now full of Indians, so being Indian of course gets you a big leg up in getting a job at NASA. Then, after you get 15 or 20 years in, you quit NASA and start an SDB-qualified business and start raking in the contracts. Whites don't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a small business contract from NASA.

    What's really galling is how immigration boosters always talk about how so many immigrants start high-tech companies. Yeah, it's because the government gives them special privileges to do it. Even a business that is really run by whites has to get a minority figurehead so they qualify for the benefits. It is such a fat target - I've been waiting for years for someone with an audience to point this out.

    What’s really galling is how immigration boosters always talk about how so many immigrants start high-tech companies. Yeah, it’s because the government gives them special privileges to do it.

    Excellent point, we don’t hear that said enough.

    Even a business that is really run by whites has to get a minority figurehead so they qualify for the benefits. It is such a fat target – I’ve been waiting for years for someone with an audience to point this out.

    Isn’t that how supposed many businesses operate in South Africa? White people administer the business while a Big Man gets to be nominally in charge.

  60. Aside from missing out on the beauty of the term ‘Fauxcahontas’, Trump is hardly a racist for pointing out Warren the Interloper. Doesn’t that actually make Trump the Big White Brother Who Protects the Sanctity of the Human Beings or something like that?

  61. @tbraton
    According to the Orlando Sentinel, "The Federal Bureau of Investigation is assisting. Agents say they cannot rule this out as an act of domestic terrorism and that the suspect, who is not from Orlando, may have leanings toward extreme Islamic ideologies." Sounds to me like some white guy from Appalachia, a typical Trump supporter. We all know how prone to violence Trump supporters are, especially toward gays.

    “According to the Orlando Sentinel, “The Federal Bureau of Investigation is assisting. Agents say they cannot rule this out as an act of domestic terrorism and that the suspect, who is not from Orlando, may have leanings toward extreme Islamic ideologies.” Sounds to me like some white guy from Appalachia, a typical Trump supporter. We all know how prone to violence Trump supporters are, especially toward gays.”

    Of course it was a Donald Trump supporter. Go to the nearest local mosque where you live and you will see all of the Muslims wearing “Make America Great Again” caps.

  62. @TheJester
    I have roots in Oklahoma going back to the early 1980s. Back then, many still tended to hide their Amerindian heritage. Now, with the financial largesse and benefits associated with being Indian, it seems that everyone in Oklahoma with cold black hair claims they are Cherokee. (Did Elizabeth Warren try this same stunt to get affirmative action credits at Harvard?)

    This has a strange twist to it. The "Indians" running up and down the sidelines at University of Oklahoma football games were real Indians. They enjoyed the notoriety and their sideline game seats. However, as a homage to political correctness, the practice was discontinued as racist. It stereotyped and depreciated Indians they said. As standard practice, the Liberal Left seems to insist that everyone, including targeted minorities, accept their narrative of White oppression and guilt regardless of what the minorities might think of the issues.

    This same guilt-laced narrative is being pressed to ban the name "Washington Redskins". Polls suggest that most Indian communities have no issue with the name. To me and others (including Indians apparently), the word "Redskins" conjures up a positive image of football players who are going to do really violent things on the field. The Red Mesa high school football team on the Navajo Nation Reservation is called the "Redskins". But perhaps the Left thinks that something like "Toadskins" would be more appropriate, at least until PETA enters the fray.

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/

    Jester, I have a long association with American Indians from my years in steel construction. Worked with them, visited them and enjoyed each other’s company. The term that I heard more often was “skins”, a shortened version of Redskins, but more often than not it was NAs referring to other NAs. Recently the city of Buffalo Common Council (an apt name) voted to change the name of a small island in the Niagara River from Squaw Island to Unity Island. Some SJWs convinced the Council that the term squaw meant or referred to vagina. No research was necessary, just a rush to avoid slurring NA women. I never, ever heard a NA refer to a vagina as a squaw or vice versa…….they used the more common “C” word. Who knew.

  63. On the gaming for gaming: nothing summed up the rot of the Republican party for me like the Jack Abramoff scandal did. It seemed like have the party establishment was caught up in that sordid mess- it just kept spreading the rot around more and more. I was waiting to see if some Israeli arms deal was part of it. And there were those weird intersections of Sailerbait galore.

    Now don’t knock the Jewish influence.

    Jews like Stephen Miller are the only chance of creating the immigration restriction movement hopeless advocates of antisemitism and paleoconservatism, such as yourself, have failed utterly to create.

    If it weren’t for the Jew-friendly Trump – who has a Jewish daughter, grandchildren, and a Jewish son-in law who writes his AIPAC speeches for him – the antisemitic great hope for yet another total loss that maybe could be spun into another ‘martyr of the Jews’ narrative this year would have been Rand Paul.

    • Agree: International Jew
  64. Saw a show not long ago in which the Cherokees were depicted as possibly one of the Lost Tribes of Israel. Every one of the members of the “tribe” who were interviewed looked as white as Mr. Sailer. As to Warren there’s nothing like getting on the bandwagon and claiming ancestral solidarity with one of The Oppressed. Having said that, and if the the demokrat party insisted on having another one of The Oppressed (in this case a woman) as their nominee, they were better off with her than with that mendacious screech owl, Nurse Ratched.

  65. “Trump is amazingly allergic to cleverness in vocabulary.”

    Plain speaking is a top dog trait.

  66. @Leftist conservative

    I actually kind of like Elizabeth Warren, as I explained in VDARE back in 2003. But she and Harvard Law School claiming that she brought Diversity to HLS was pretty embarrassing because law professors, especially ones from Oklahoma, are supposed to understand how Indian tribal membership works. It’s not a one-drop rule where your belief that one of your 32 great-great-great-grandparents was a Cherokee entitles you to Pokemon Points. Either you are on the Cherokee nation membership list or you’re not.

    And Warren is not.


     

    The applications do not ask whether the applicant is an official member of a particular indian tribe. The applications offer several checkboxes, i.e., white, black, hispanic, indian. You check one or more of the checkboxes. You are required to be truthful. Warren was truthful. She checked both white and indian (native american, whatever).

    I myself have a comanche indian ancestor from when my ancestors lived in northwest texas over 100 years ago. Unlike warren, I have seen a photo of my comanche ancestor. But I am not a member of the comanche tribe because I do not have a high enough percentage of comanche ancestry. But when I applied (and eventually obtained and then retired from) a federal job, I marked white and indian. Because I am white and indian. I told the truth.

    See, this is why steve sailer is not a good representative/Thought Leader for the white populist revolution--he actually supports the establishment. Trump is leading this revolution because he wants to subvert and undermine the current anti-white race-spoils regime. Steve Sailer wants to perpetuate it. Sailer is like an establishment mole seeking to subvert this populist revolution. Many say hitler played the same role in 1920s germany-- a faux working class populist.

    Many white americans have some smidgen of indian ancestry. As a person who wants to subvert and end this anti-white establishment, I encourage all whites who possibly can do so, to claim indian heritage. Steve Sailer does not.

    I applaud liz warren for helping to undermine and subvert the establishment.

    Corporate, I just finished reading “Empire of the Summer Moon” by S.C. Gwynne, basically the historical tale of the rise and fall of your Comanche ancestors. A recommendable and easy read.

  67. @Anonymous
    Fauxcohontas
    Chief Spreading Bull
    Lieawatha

    Others I’ve seen:

    Sackadabullshit
    Chief Gray Beaver

  68. @TheJester
    I have roots in Oklahoma going back to the early 1980s. Back then, many still tended to hide their Amerindian heritage. Now, with the financial largesse and benefits associated with being Indian, it seems that everyone in Oklahoma with cold black hair claims they are Cherokee. (Did Elizabeth Warren try this same stunt to get affirmative action credits at Harvard?)

    This has a strange twist to it. The "Indians" running up and down the sidelines at University of Oklahoma football games were real Indians. They enjoyed the notoriety and their sideline game seats. However, as a homage to political correctness, the practice was discontinued as racist. It stereotyped and depreciated Indians they said. As standard practice, the Liberal Left seems to insist that everyone, including targeted minorities, accept their narrative of White oppression and guilt regardless of what the minorities might think of the issues.

    This same guilt-laced narrative is being pressed to ban the name "Washington Redskins". Polls suggest that most Indian communities have no issue with the name. To me and others (including Indians apparently), the word "Redskins" conjures up a positive image of football players who are going to do really violent things on the field. The Red Mesa high school football team on the Navajo Nation Reservation is called the "Redskins". But perhaps the Left thinks that something like "Toadskins" would be more appropriate, at least until PETA enters the fray.

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/

    “Now, with the financial largesse and benefits associated with being Indian, it seems that everyone in Oklahoma with cold black hair claims they are Cherokee.”

    This means Collin Farrell and Catherine Zeta Jones for example can claim to be Cherokee in Oklahoma, because nobody would ever mistake them for blondes or gingers. They wouldn’t even be considered light haired by Southern European standards, let alone light haired by Northern European standards.

  69. @carol
    How would you say "Fauxahontas" out loud? "Foxahontas" would make her sound foxy, or something to do with Fox News, but the French pronunciation of "faux" would result in, what, "fo-a-hontas"? Seems like a clever term that works only in print.

    But I don't have cable anymore so I don't know how the talking heads handle it.

    Fo-ka-hontas, to rhyme exactly with Pocahontas. Trump could use it, and if questioned on it could say, “No, Fauxcahontas, it’s some French I learned from John Kerry.”

  70. I met with my 91 year old aunt two months ago and asked about one of our ancestors who fought in the American Revolution. She and my daughters are DARs but I carry the gene also. She commented that I have several more relatives who fought in the war but it did not matter. Once you proved that one ancestor fought, then you were in. It takes documentation and work to prove so it just was not worth the effort to prove that more of my ancestors qualified.

  71. Lots of Indian casinos in my state. I work with a middle-aged lady who actually looks a bit like Elizabeth Warren. She likes to wear all this Indian jewelry. One day I asked her about it. It seems her grandfather came to this country as an orphan after World War II. He was legally adopted by an Indian couple, who had him made a full-fledged member of the tribe. This lady didn’t think much about all this until the tribe opened a casino. Now, as an “Indian,” she goes to all the tribal council meetings and gets a casino check every month. She says most of the people there look like her – not very “Indian” at all.

  72. “Stephanie Fryberg, an associate professor of psychology and American Indian studies at the University of Washington, said her studies have found that exposing Native American children to images of Pocahontas lowered their sense of collective self-worth.” Where does Ms. Fryberg stand on exposing German children to holocaust stories six million times every month, with phony stories about soap and lampshades made from fat and skin? It has had a bigger effect than Pocahontas. The Germans are carrying out the genocide against their own people that Theodore Kaufman and Henry Morgenthau pioneered during WW II.

    But since the American Congress voted 363-0 the other day to call upon Germany to increase payouts to soap and lampshade survivors, I don’t think the German children will be getting a break any time soon.

  73. @anon
    So who dun shot up the gay night club? We all know the WHOM. We're all waiting for the WHO.

    What’s fascinating is the number of ways this can be spun: LGBT, terrorism, migration, and guns. Crooked Hillary will go for LGBT and guns; Don the Con will go for terrorism and migration.

    Which will win out| My prognosis: LGBT. Whenever misfortune befalls the LGBT, their prestige rises. It largely started with AIDS.

    Prediction: Clinton will name Barney Frank her vice president, to capitalize on the pro-gay sentimentalism and to reignite her campaign for the first woman president with the first gay vice president.

    • Replies: @fish

    Prediction: Clinton will name Barney Frank her vice president, to capitalize on the pro-gay sentimentalism and to reignite her campaign for the first woman president with the first gay vice president.
     
    His presence on the ticket will go nicely with a rapidly recessing economy making itself obvious right around election time.

    I'm sure that Trump is terrified of running against Franks record and signature legislation.
  74. @Crawfurdmuir
    Don't forget Crockagawea.

    Again, Unz, adding LOL button to the Agree/Disagree/Tweet would be nice.

    • Disagree: Stephen R. Diamond
  75. Our host misses a key HBD element of this story.

    > leaves Republicans squirming (again)

    > Gardner clammed up.

    > clambering for safety

    > spurred chatter at former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney’s ideas summit

    The party of Gaia, vegans, animal rights, and Otherkin frame their bodice-heaving, umbrage-taking Republican-voter-spanking stories by using non-human behavioral metaphors. In this case annelids or reptiles, molluscs, and what struck my rhetorical ear as squirrels.

  76. @Stephen R. Diamond
    What's fascinating is the number of ways this can be spun: LGBT, terrorism, migration, and guns. Crooked Hillary will go for LGBT and guns; Don the Con will go for terrorism and migration.

    Which will win out| My prognosis: LGBT. Whenever misfortune befalls the LGBT, their prestige rises. It largely started with AIDS.

    Prediction: Clinton will name Barney Frank her vice president, to capitalize on the pro-gay sentimentalism and to reignite her campaign for the first woman president with the first gay vice president.

    Prediction: Clinton will name Barney Frank her vice president, to capitalize on the pro-gay sentimentalism and to reignite her campaign for the first woman president with the first gay vice president.

    His presence on the ticket will go nicely with a rapidly recessing economy making itself obvious right around election time.

    I’m sure that Trump is terrified of running against Franks record and signature legislation.

  77. @Anonymous
    Fauxcohontas
    Chief Spreading Bull
    Lieawatha

    I’m partial to Princess Yellow Hair.

  78. @Jean Cocteausten
    There's a long history of blacks passing as Indians, and it's clearly the legacy of past racism. It's hard to blame a 1/4 black guy in 1860 Virginia for saying he's an Indian. But it's totally fair to blame a white in 2016 for saying she's an Indian, because of how the law is now openly hostile to whites. It's a complete reversal of the ethical situation that apparently eludes the moral geniuses at the WaPo.

    Trump is doing a good thing in exposing our silly racial reverse-caste system. The average person thinks affirmative action is just extra points for minorities in college admissions. But its ugly tentacles are all over the place - Indian casinos, race-based scholarships, and the worst one of all, race-based government contracting programs. I'd love to see Trump make a cause of the fact that a filthy-rich Hong Konger or high-caste Asian Indian can immigrate to the US and go right to the front of the federal contracting line because racism. Indian and Chinese immigrants are far more racist and privileged than American whites, but the federal government considers them just as disadvantaged as a black guy from inner-city Baltimore. NASA is a good example. It's now full of Indians, so being Indian of course gets you a big leg up in getting a job at NASA. Then, after you get 15 or 20 years in, you quit NASA and start an SDB-qualified business and start raking in the contracts. Whites don't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a small business contract from NASA.

    What's really galling is how immigration boosters always talk about how so many immigrants start high-tech companies. Yeah, it's because the government gives them special privileges to do it. Even a business that is really run by whites has to get a minority figurehead so they qualify for the benefits. It is such a fat target - I've been waiting for years for someone with an audience to point this out.

    “What’s really galling is how immigration boosters always talk about how so many immigrants start high-tech companies. Yeah, it’s because the government gives them special privileges to do it.”

    Yes, that is quite true. Companies that can claim 8a status can get SBA loans on favorable terms and preferential treatment in government contracting.

    Another thing which goes unmentioned is that the government uses a lot of minority-owned small businesses to staff NASA, DoE, and military R&D centers. Those companies are probably classed as “high-tech” even though they are just job-shops, and provide no more real service than does a temp agency. But – voila – “high-tech” companies created by immigrants!

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Right, and I think 8a companies can win contracts with bids up to 10% higher than the lowest non-disadvantage business because Racism. Or something.
  79. @carol
    How would you say "Fauxahontas" out loud? "Foxahontas" would make her sound foxy, or something to do with Fox News, but the French pronunciation of "faux" would result in, what, "fo-a-hontas"? Seems like a clever term that works only in print.

    But I don't have cable anymore so I don't know how the talking heads handle it.

    foh-kahantus

  80. Speaking of hybrids, what’s going on in this Volvo commercial?

    “Plug-in Hybrid.” I see what y’all did there.

  81. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Anyone who thinks she is an “Indian” is not playing with a full deck. People like her are quite common here in Canada where being an Indian is a huge growth industry with all kinds of government perks and benefits. I know perfectly white people who claim they are “Indians”. It would be quite funny if it weren’t for the economic shakedown it entails.

  82. @anonymous
    Warren is a scammer who managed to cash in with her fake Indian ancestry. One look and anyone can see she's no Indian yet there was some code of silence where everyone pretended she was and that she was a 'minority' professor. Let this joke come to an end and call her out on this.

    Warren is a scammer who managed to cash in with her fake Indian ancestry. One look and anyone can see she’s no Indian….

    She said she was 1/32. You can’t tell by looking whether that’s true.

  83. @Fiddlesticks
    Shoulda-woulda-coulda claims of Cherokee ancestry ("great-granddad was too PROUD to register as an Indian, he didn't want to go on the dole, you see...!") are rampant in Oklahoma family lore.

    Warren has had plenty of time to take a 23andme type test to see if there was any truth to her family's vague stories and if she had found anything helpful she would have leaked it to the media. She has almost certainly quietly checked her ancestry and discovered to her dismay that she is 100% white.

    Warren has had plenty of time to take a 23andme type test to see if there was any truth to her family’s vague stories and if she had found anything helpful she would have leaked it to the media. She has almost certainly quietly checked her ancestry and discovered to her dismay that she is 100% white.

    She might be 100% White AND have Cherokee ancestry. It just depends on how meiosis shuffled the cards over the generations. The 23andme test could not prove she doesn’t have Indian ancestry.

  84. The correct response to reporters asking for a comment on Trump’s dismissal of Warren as Pocahontas from any Republican who wants to be “polite” (i.e. remain a cuckservative) is, as follows:

    “Mr. Trump is referring to the fact that Elizabeth Warren landed her job on the Harvard faculty by falsely claiming to be a Native America. She is not a tribal Indian. She gamed affirmative action. This is extremely troubling. Affirmative action exists to help disadvantaged minorities, not white, middle-class, con artists.”

    There you go — you’ve defended affirmative action (so no-one will call you a racist), you’ve made the obligatory anti-white statement, you’ve defused the sexist charge, and you’ve placed the blame where it belongs, on the Democratic senator from Massachusetts.

    No political courage required whatsoever.

    Yet they can’t even do that.

    The Republicans are hopeless.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "The correct response to reporters asking for a comment on Trump’s dismissal of Warren as Pocahontas from any Republican who wants to be “polite” (i.e. remain a cuckservative) is, as follows:

    “Mr. Trump is referring to the fact that Elizabeth Warren landed her job on the Harvard faculty by falsely claiming to be a Native America. She is not a tribal Indian. She gamed affirmative action. This is extremely troubling. Affirmative action exists to help disadvantaged minorities, not white, middle-class, con artists.”

    There you go — you’ve defended affirmative action (so no-one will call you a racist), you’ve made the obligatory anti-white statement, you’ve defused the sexist charge, and you’ve placed the blame where it belongs, on the Democratic senator from Massachusetts.

    No political courage required whatsoever.

    Yet they can’t even do that.

    The Republicans are hopeless."

    Mitt Romney thinks it is racist for Donald Trump to call Elizabeth Warren a fake Native American, because it is trickle down racism in his eyes.

    Are most Utah Mormons this extremely politically correct?
  85. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Great post. I was mildly irritated when the supposed fact-finding artillery of US/Can/UK MSM all trained their guns on the “offensive” Twittering of the nominee, while the true offense against decency was Warren’s grubby imposture– a routine but pretty serviceable example of how academic/political elites fluent in mid-Atlantic corporatese typically conceal their deficiencies underneath a mountain of dudgeon & smarm. But what you’ve dug up on the Foxwoods fakers is 100x better. Kudos to DJT for calling out the frauds, then and now.

  86. @carol
    How would you say "Fauxahontas" out loud? "Foxahontas" would make her sound foxy, or something to do with Fox News, but the French pronunciation of "faux" would result in, what, "fo-a-hontas"? Seems like a clever term that works only in print.

    But I don't have cable anymore so I don't know how the talking heads handle it.

    How would you say “Fauxahontas” out loud?

    You wouldn’t. The name is “Fauxcahontas”, with a “c”.

  87. @celt darnell
    The correct response to reporters asking for a comment on Trump's dismissal of Warren as Pocahontas from any Republican who wants to be "polite" (i.e. remain a cuckservative) is, as follows:

    "Mr. Trump is referring to the fact that Elizabeth Warren landed her job on the Harvard faculty by falsely claiming to be a Native America. She is not a tribal Indian. She gamed affirmative action. This is extremely troubling. Affirmative action exists to help disadvantaged minorities, not white, middle-class, con artists."

    There you go -- you've defended affirmative action (so no-one will call you a racist), you've made the obligatory anti-white statement, you've defused the sexist charge, and you've placed the blame where it belongs, on the Democratic senator from Massachusetts.

    No political courage required whatsoever.

    Yet they can't even do that.

    The Republicans are hopeless.

    “The correct response to reporters asking for a comment on Trump’s dismissal of Warren as Pocahontas from any Republican who wants to be “polite” (i.e. remain a cuckservative) is, as follows:

    “Mr. Trump is referring to the fact that Elizabeth Warren landed her job on the Harvard faculty by falsely claiming to be a Native America. She is not a tribal Indian. She gamed affirmative action. This is extremely troubling. Affirmative action exists to help disadvantaged minorities, not white, middle-class, con artists.”

    There you go — you’ve defended affirmative action (so no-one will call you a racist), you’ve made the obligatory anti-white statement, you’ve defused the sexist charge, and you’ve placed the blame where it belongs, on the Democratic senator from Massachusetts.

    No political courage required whatsoever.

    Yet they can’t even do that.

    The Republicans are hopeless.”

    Mitt Romney thinks it is racist for Donald Trump to call Elizabeth Warren a fake Native American, because it is trickle down racism in his eyes.

    Are most Utah Mormons this extremely politically correct?

  88. @Anonymous
    Fauxcohontas
    Chief Spreading Bull
    Lieawatha

  89. @Daniel Williams

    How many old Western stories and movies and tales had scenes where the white guy went through a ceremony to become an “official” member of X tribe? Happened a lot ... American Indian tribal membership was always a kind of formal or quasi-formal situation.
     
    You've watched too many movies, kemosabe. Indian tribes are exactly that—people "join" by passing through a squaw's birth canal.

    Actually, initiation by outsiders into an Indian tribe was a common procedure.

    Indian tribes often used captures outside members to fill up their ranks, and the deal generally was if your old tribe was killed/destroyed, the new tribe initiated you and you became a full member of the new tribe—it was both more humane than genocide and served the winning tribe’s purpose of growing, while also making it attractive for weaker tribes to merely surrender to a stronger tribe and become integrated. Whites as well as reds were adopted into tribes, and usually some sort of ceremony was performed (much like new U.S. citizens are sworn in). Daniel Boone, for example, was adopted into an Indian tribe after his capture, and went through a ceremony for it (he later escaped).

    Then you get to “honorary” membership, which is like an honorary degree from a university. Men like Lucullus McWhorter were given honorary tribal membership for their work, and celebrities have gotten honorary membership at various times (Johnny Depp, for example, got honorary Comanche membership as part of the PR campaign to the disastrous Lone Ranger film). These, too, had the pomp and circumstance of ceremony.

    The recent dustup among the Cherokee was between full-members and the descendants of former black slaves. The blacks wanted a cut of the casino pie of the Cherokee. The tribe previously had allowed the blacks to claim membership , but then when the casino profits were threatened, reversed course and said the blacks hadn’t been fully initiated into the tribe, thus saving the rest of the tribe the profits the blacks would have siphoned off. Initiation matters.

  90. @anony-mouse
    You're missing the fact that one of the reasons Trump's Atlantic City casinos failed was the proliferation of Indian casinos in the Northeast-and elsewhere.

    (Of course the Vegas casinos are still around since they are owned and managed by competent people-or at least competent enough to run a casino).

    I think he's still sore.

    Especially the Poconos and Foxwoods.

    Atlantic City has been a sinkhole for decades, and the casinos didn’t cover that up or fix it. It’s a dangerous, crappy town. People much preferred going to the Poconos mountains or to Foxwoods in CT than Atlantic City—safer, cleaner, no riffraff around. Even in the summer, when the seaside would be nice.

    The trouble with gambling establishments is that, in a city atmosphere, it brings prostitution, drugs, violent crime, pawn shops, loan sharking, and all manner of bad stuff. Placing casinos off in the woods or separating them somehow from the rest of town works best–the less city around, the less runoff. Indian tribes also have the advantage that they can kick you off the tribal land. Riverboats also solve this by being separate from the land, although the docks can get dicey in some towns. Cities often physically separate casinos from the rest of the city to make them safer.

    For example, Montreal, Canada has a casino, but the casino is on an island separate from the main city (similar to Governor’s Island in New York City versus Manhattan) that isn’t accessible from the subway, so you either have to drive there or take a bus, and there isn’t any other establishment on the island besides the casino. This cuts down on the downsides of casino life, since the prostitution and crime can’t hang around the grounds. The casino is thus pretty upscale/touristy and a nice day trip.

    Vegas took a small town and made it big, and it still has the bad riffraff in many parts of town, as seen in many TV specials. But Vegas also poured money into separating the main casino drags—the Strip, etc.–from the rest of town, making those areas self-contained, policing those areas well, so tourists don’t feel threatened or the need to go off where the crime is unless, of course, they’re into that.

    Atlantic City should have done the same as Vegas—the casinos really should self-contain and self-police. Another thing they could have done—if they thought big enough–would be to either use riverboats or build some sort of artificial island off Atlantic City that is strictly limited in access, perhaps only from the highway (Montreal’s casino can only be accessed from the highways). But that’s thinking way outside the box for such a dingy town.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The Barona casino 30 miles northwest of San Diego has an exceptional golf course. Being on an Indian reservation, the golf architect didn't have to follow all that many environmental restrictions, so it may well be the best golf course opened in Southern California in the 21st Century. In contrast, the huge budget Trump - Los Angeles golf course has a great site on the ocean cliffs of Palos Verdes, but it had to accommodate the endangered California gnatcatcher bird by leaving sagebrush between each fairway, which is a major problem in terms of playability: teeshots modestly offline get lost in the vicious sagebrush. That's not a problem for the Barona Indians.

    I played Barona with the architect of Barona a couple of days after I played Trump-Los Angeles in 2001 (I had lunch with the founder who sold out to Trump a few years later). The designer of the Barona golf course denied that the Indians could disobey major environmental laws, but it was apparent to me that Barona was less hamstrung than Trump-Los Angeles by environmental rules.

    But, as a golf course architecture maven, I'm happy that there are Indian reservations dotted here and there around America that don't have to follow all the rules governing the rest of America.

  91. @whorefinder
    Especially the Poconos and Foxwoods.

    Atlantic City has been a sinkhole for decades, and the casinos didn't cover that up or fix it. It's a dangerous, crappy town. People much preferred going to the Poconos mountains or to Foxwoods in CT than Atlantic City---safer, cleaner, no riffraff around. Even in the summer, when the seaside would be nice.

    The trouble with gambling establishments is that, in a city atmosphere, it brings prostitution, drugs, violent crime, pawn shops, loan sharking, and all manner of bad stuff. Placing casinos off in the woods or separating them somehow from the rest of town works best--the less city around, the less runoff. Indian tribes also have the advantage that they can kick you off the tribal land. Riverboats also solve this by being separate from the land, although the docks can get dicey in some towns. Cities often physically separate casinos from the rest of the city to make them safer.

    For example, Montreal, Canada has a casino, but the casino is on an island separate from the main city (similar to Governor's Island in New York City versus Manhattan) that isn't accessible from the subway, so you either have to drive there or take a bus, and there isn't any other establishment on the island besides the casino. This cuts down on the downsides of casino life, since the prostitution and crime can't hang around the grounds. The casino is thus pretty upscale/touristy and a nice day trip.

    Vegas took a small town and made it big, and it still has the bad riffraff in many parts of town, as seen in many TV specials. But Vegas also poured money into separating the main casino drags---the Strip, etc.--from the rest of town, making those areas self-contained, policing those areas well, so tourists don't feel threatened or the need to go off where the crime is unless, of course, they're into that.

    Atlantic City should have done the same as Vegas---the casinos really should self-contain and self-police. Another thing they could have done---if they thought big enough--would be to either use riverboats or build some sort of artificial island off Atlantic City that is strictly limited in access, perhaps only from the highway (Montreal's casino can only be accessed from the highways). But that's thinking way outside the box for such a dingy town.

    The Barona casino 30 miles northwest of San Diego has an exceptional golf course. Being on an Indian reservation, the golf architect didn’t have to follow all that many environmental restrictions, so it may well be the best golf course opened in Southern California in the 21st Century. In contrast, the huge budget Trump – Los Angeles golf course has a great site on the ocean cliffs of Palos Verdes, but it had to accommodate the endangered California gnatcatcher bird by leaving sagebrush between each fairway, which is a major problem in terms of playability: teeshots modestly offline get lost in the vicious sagebrush. That’s not a problem for the Barona Indians.

    I played Barona with the architect of Barona a couple of days after I played Trump-Los Angeles in 2001 (I had lunch with the founder who sold out to Trump a few years later). The designer of the Barona golf course denied that the Indians could disobey major environmental laws, but it was apparent to me that Barona was less hamstrung than Trump-Los Angeles by environmental rules.

    But, as a golf course architecture maven, I’m happy that there are Indian reservations dotted here and there around America that don’t have to follow all the rules governing the rest of America.

  92. @Daniel H
    If you are from Long Island you have heard this joke about Shinnecock's. I know that this is a decent family blog, but I will repeat it anyway. The Shinnecock's are also known as the Moneg tribe, because "they mo n****r than injun."

    A joke in poor taste, but I get a kick out of it.

    As are the Wampanoag tribe in MA, currently looking for their slice of the devalued casino pie.

    http://www.mashpeewampanoagtribe.com/Tribal-Council

    The definition of high yella.

  93. @Mr. Anon
    "What’s really galling is how immigration boosters always talk about how so many immigrants start high-tech companies. Yeah, it’s because the government gives them special privileges to do it."

    Yes, that is quite true. Companies that can claim 8a status can get SBA loans on favorable terms and preferential treatment in government contracting.

    Another thing which goes unmentioned is that the government uses a lot of minority-owned small businesses to staff NASA, DoE, and military R&D centers. Those companies are probably classed as "high-tech" even though they are just job-shops, and provide no more real service than does a temp agency. But - voila - "high-tech" companies created by immigrants!

    Right, and I think 8a companies can win contracts with bids up to 10% higher than the lowest non-disadvantage business because Racism. Or something.

  94. @Anonymous Nephew
    Some redneck Bible-basher called Omar Mateen.

    You confirmed my initial impression. BTW when did Omar catch on as a popular first name in the Bible belt? Was there another Great Awakening that I somehow missed?

  95. @Jean Cocteausten
    There's a long history of blacks passing as Indians, and it's clearly the legacy of past racism. It's hard to blame a 1/4 black guy in 1860 Virginia for saying he's an Indian. But it's totally fair to blame a white in 2016 for saying she's an Indian, because of how the law is now openly hostile to whites. It's a complete reversal of the ethical situation that apparently eludes the moral geniuses at the WaPo.

    Trump is doing a good thing in exposing our silly racial reverse-caste system. The average person thinks affirmative action is just extra points for minorities in college admissions. But its ugly tentacles are all over the place - Indian casinos, race-based scholarships, and the worst one of all, race-based government contracting programs. I'd love to see Trump make a cause of the fact that a filthy-rich Hong Konger or high-caste Asian Indian can immigrate to the US and go right to the front of the federal contracting line because racism. Indian and Chinese immigrants are far more racist and privileged than American whites, but the federal government considers them just as disadvantaged as a black guy from inner-city Baltimore. NASA is a good example. It's now full of Indians, so being Indian of course gets you a big leg up in getting a job at NASA. Then, after you get 15 or 20 years in, you quit NASA and start an SDB-qualified business and start raking in the contracts. Whites don't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a small business contract from NASA.

    What's really galling is how immigration boosters always talk about how so many immigrants start high-tech companies. Yeah, it's because the government gives them special privileges to do it. Even a business that is really run by whites has to get a minority figurehead so they qualify for the benefits. It is such a fat target - I've been waiting for years for someone with an audience to point this out.

    Your affirmative action tentacles don’t reach nearly far enough. Affirmative action set-asides and quotas in hiring are policy in every large company in the US. Fear of discrimination lawsuits with damages costing millions and the imposition of civil rights oversight in hiring by an EEOC judge has created a racial-preferences system that the authors of civil rights law swore could not and would not happen. Mexican, Arab, and African immigrants don’t get $60K jobs with utility companies because of their educational and test qualifications. Nobody gets this fundamental effect of affirmative action policies.

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