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From the Washington Post:

The Intersect
An Asian American woman’s tweets ignite a debate: Is it okay to make fun of white people online?

By Eli Rosenberg and Erin B. Logan
August 3 at 5:00 AM

…But in a country in the midst of a painful debate about white supremacy and privilege, Jeong’s episode has exposed a deeper rift between some conservatives — whose political ideology has been marked by the rise of a president who has trafficked in racially charged rhetoric and policies — and the left, pointing to a fundamental disagreement about the nature of race and power in the United States.

At right-leaning outlets such as Fox News, the Daily Caller, the Gateway Pundit, Breitbart and Infowars, Jeong’s tweets were skewered as “racist,” “offensive” and “anti-white.” …

To some conservatives, her hiring, and the subsequent defense issued by the Times, was an example of how liberals get away with their own brand of racism — against white people.

… But others were quick to say that the statements Jeong made could be skewed as racist only if the culture, history and current sociopolitical context of the United States were ignored.

“Part of the reason it was so easy for the outrage to be manufactured in the first place was it was completely decontextualized and ahistorified,” said Nolan L. Cabrera, an associate professor at the University of Arizona who will publish a book in the fall about racial attitudes held by white college students. “Then it was easy to drum up anger and say it looks like she hates white people. That only makes sense if you are willfully ignorant of 400 to 500 years’ history and contemporary social context and also the context from which the tweets were sent.”

It is likely true, as many have pointed out, that if any minority group were substituted in the place of white people into Jeong’s statements, she would not have kept her job. Some edited Jeong’s tweets to hammer home that idea, replacing the words “white people” in her tweets with “black people” and “Jewish people.”

But Cabrera said the idea was “a complete false equivalence,” noting that whiteness isn’t a cultural identity the way being black, Japanese American or Jewish is.

You are just hideously white bread voids of mayonnaise and vanilla.

Cabrera listed off examples of government policies that targeted various racial groups, including the Chinese Exclusion Act

Of 1882?

and Operation Wetback

Of 1954?

There’s a reason my latest Taki’s column is called A Half Century of Amnesia.

, calling racism a “systemic reality” that necessarily favors white people.

“You hear that all the time: Substitute white and put in minority group x,” Cabrera said. “The term ‘racism’ is not the equivalence of prejudice or bigotry. It’s an analysis of social inequality along the color lines and an analysis of power dynamics and social oppression. None of which has ever been in the hands of people of color or communities of color: There’s never been the social structure to be able to oppress white people.”

Besides, you white blanks are Bad and us POCs are Good and therefore we deserve to take your jobs and land and demean your ancestors.

 
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  1. ‘…But Cabrera said the idea was “a complete false equivalence,” noting that whiteness isn’t a cultural identity the way being black, Japanese American or Jewish is…’

    I would rather not have a race war. I really would prefer not to.

    But these people are insisting…

    I’m reminded of one time a black kid said ‘hit me right here’ — pointing at his chin.

    Oh, alright. I kicked the S.O.B.’s ass. Hopefully, we can all do that together.

    If they insist. As I say, I’d really rather not go there.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Disagree: Cleburne
    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    , @MBlanc46
  2. fish says:

    … But others were quick to say that the statements Jeong made could be skewed as racist only if the culture, history and current sociopolitical context of the United States were ignored.

    By Eli Rosenberg and Erin B. Logan

    Hmmm?

    You can’t see it but I’m wearing my shocked face!

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Olorin
    , @Forbes
  3. Lot says:

    Anti-white is a better frame for conservatives than racist. Racist is overused and subject to competing definitions.

    But denying Jeong’s repeated and explicit statements she hates white people are antiwhite is impossible. Antiwhite is also more specific and descriptive.

  4. JimB says:

    …But in a country in the midst of a painful debate about white supremacy and privilege, Jeong’s episode has exposed a deeper rift between some conservatives…

    A smokescreen to obscure the soft genocide of the white American masses through government immigration and trade policy, backed up by cultural propaganda spewed by corporate media and government funded academia. As Peter Brimelow likes to say, this will all end in tears.

  5. Jack D says:

    It’s ok to attack white people because white people don’t even exist – they are a void, an absence of color – like attacking a ghost or slicing your sword thru the air.

    OTOH, they run everything, so it’s ok to attack them for that reason – this is just the desperate cry of the powerless emanating from their desperate favelas at Harvard Law School and the NY Times.

  6. PSR says:

    These leftist academics – “decontextualized and ahistorified” indeed. It’s so simple a child can understand it. When you express hatred toward a group of people based simply on their race, it is, by definition, racist.

  7. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s true, whiteness isn’t a cultural identity right now. It’s a cultural identity in formation, being birthed right now. There is no real white identity and white peoplehood at this point in time. There are various white ethnic identities and groups still extant, but a generic white identity, peoplehood, and nation have not formed yet.

    When Ezra Klein writes about Hispanics or any group “becoming white”, he is talking about members of the group becoming deracinated and losing their former sense of identity and peoplehood and adopting a commercial and mass media based popular culture that is not exclusive but is shared, promoted, sold, and exported to anyone and everyone. There may be differences in consumption patterns such as whites going to Starbucks and Trader Joe’s and watching the NHL more than other demographic groups, but such consumption isn’t exclusive and isn’t the basis of identity and peoplehood. Plenty of non-whites go to Starbucks. Plenty of whites don’t watch the NHL. Whereas someone non-Italian can’t just be a part of Italian-American culture.

    Now as whites lose their older ethnic identities and increasingly mix among other whites, and as demographics change, there will develop a generic white identity and peoplehood, with an exclusive culture and identity separate from the dominant commercial and mass media based popular culture. It’s something that’s in formation and developing now, but not established yet. This is sort of what Richard Spencer, who favors pan-Europeanism and a general white identity and nationhood, means when he says, “Become Who We Are.”

  8. I think there are two groups of anti-white people.

    1. Those who hate and/or fear Western European culture and want to undermine it.

    2. And those who seem to think there is infinite ruin in white European peoples and want to harvest it.

  9. Even if these cretins have some absurd rationalization that Jeong’s tweets weren’t “racist”, can they possibly deny that they are hate-filled and bigoted? Are they really going to defend the Times hiring, for its editorial board no less, someone who is demonstrably hate-filled and bigoted?

    And, as they themselves happily admit, the Times hired her knowing in advance of her disgusting attitudes. It would have been so easy for them to say to her, upon discovering those attitudes, “Sorry, I just don’t think you’d be a good fit, given the expectations of what a member of our editorial board must represent.” How could they have pushed ahead and offered her the position nonetheless, surely knowing that all this would come out in the public space?

    The Times chose this hill to die on.

    What does that say about how far gone they are?

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @Barnard
  10. I’m confused. If racism is not “the equivalence of prejudice or bigotry” but rather”an analysis of social inequality along the color lines and an analysis of power dynamics and social oppression”, then why is the used in the pejorative as a description of “prejudice or bigotry” in the first place?

  11. Sean says:

    It’s an analysis of social inequality along the color lines and an analysis of power dynamics and social oppression. None of which has ever been in the hands of people of color or communities of color: There’s never been the social structure to be able to oppress white people.”

    A thorough analysis of “social inequality along the color lines and an analysis of power dynamics” would note that white people who are gentiles, that is, a clearly defined group consisting of 98% of white people, are not powerful when advocating against the other 2%.

  12. You can always tell a white person in the supermarket– she’s the only one buying the brown bread.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  13. @Lot

    Antiwhite is also more specific and descriptive.

    I prefer leukophobe.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  14. Flip says:

    The Times chose this hill to die on.

    I canceled my subscription a couple of months ago. I was tired of anti-white diatribes being thrown at me. I hope others do the same.

    I thought she would survive after seeing their press release defending the hiring, but I am not so sure now.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
  15. What was then what Joe Sobran said?

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Stick
    , @Anonymous
  16. Tiny Duck says:

    To all of you who say things like “here’s something I never thought I would see: the Left defending racist, sexist, ageist tweets, as long as they are directed at white men.”

    Eff off

    That’s called KARMA and youneed to man up….. it only seems fair you get some of their own medicine.

    Maybe comments like these against whites stimulate a little thoughtfulness about the daily experience of people of color. Of course being white, it is an outrageous experience. Perhaps like the first time a little brown kid is slandered with racist comments and wonders to his mother, how can this be? Over time, the experience is normalized and people of color maybe learn not to respond or react. Well, I think whites might have a little difficulty growing some thick skin when we have the PRIVILEDGE of almost never experiencing this type of blatant racist comment directed at us. Of course we don’t want to be reduced to the color of our skin. Neither does anyone else. Get it?

    • Replies: @JSM
    , @anonymous
  17. J1234 says:

    …Nolan L. Cabrera, an associate professor at the University of Arizona who will publish a book in the fall about racial attitudes held by white college students. “Then it was easy to drum up anger and say it looks like she hates white people. That only makes sense if you are willfully ignorant of 400 to 500 years’ history and contemporary social context and also the context from which the tweets were sent.”

    Seems to me like a certain associate professor at the University of Arizona is being willfully ignorant of something like 2500 years of history, but that will undoubtedly help him market his new book about racism. Let’s see…where did the word “slave” come from again? Who were the serfs? The peasantry? Indentured servants? The “barbarians”?

    But Cabrera said the idea was “a complete false equivalence,” noting that whiteness isn’t a cultural identity the way being black, Japanese American or Jewish is.

    Someone also doesn’t seem to understand basic concepts about culture and society, not to mention human nature.

  18. So the Times and Jeong are on board for the ethnic cleansing of white people. They hired a known anti-white bigot, Jeong, and loosed that hydrophobe on the public. Yet they are the ones decrying Trump’s ‘the press is the enemy of the America people’ phrase as dangerous to journos.

  19. Forbes says:

    Gotta love the reinforcement of The Narrative…

    Sarah Jeong didn’t make racist, anti-white comments,

    “SHE WAS MAKING FUN OF WHITE PEOPLE ON-LINE”

    and ignited a debate: “CAN’T WHITE PEOPLE TAKE A JOKE?”

    Can’t wait for the Twitter hashtag memes to pop up:
    #witessosensitive
    #sosorryyourewhite
    #canttakeajoke
    #humornotawhitething
    #wonderbreadpower
    #racismisnotprejudiceorbigoty

  20. Tyrion 2 says:

    They’ve been found out. This is a bone sensible people must not let go of. Their rationalisations for why it is different are obtuse and, when you dig down, ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Anon
  21. Culture is artificial selection. Race is the result. The artificial selection regime creating whites clearly no longer obtains, which is the real reason for the decline of whiteness. Non-whiteness is being cultured.

    The only real question facing whites is this:

    “What were the cultural norms that selected phenotypes we identify as ‘white’?”

    If you don’t have an answer to this question then you are in no position to lead whites nor even to “critique”, as a substitute for culture, those who posit answers as have I.

  22. Anonymous[484] • Disclaimer says:

    Whenever they spew this ridiculous guano about how its “impossible to be racist against white people” we must respond with something better than nuh-uh.

    “Stop unpersoning me.”

    It’s a good word to use, and we should define it in moral terms as far worse than mere racism.

    They redefined the meaning of racism to fit their schemes, and “language is dynamic.” Ok, fine. You arent racist. You are unpersoning and that is far worse. It means you can do anything to the unpersoned, even kill them. Which is clearly the goal, or why do it? Unpersoners are murderers. Treat them accordingly.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  23. It’s getting hard to keep up: racism is “systemic;” racism only happens when punching down; racism is “intersectional.” The complexities and penumbrae of “racism” keep subdividing, all to justify the Left’s core belief: white people are racist by virtue of existing, and non-whites can never be racist. Hence, “racism” isn’t a substantive concept. It’s a fluid, rhetorical device to beat people over the head with. We need to stop caring about this term, “racism.”

    I welcome the NY Times’ hire of anti-white shrew Sarah Jeong. I hope they and other major media organs hire more like her. It’s clarifying.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  24. Stick says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Bardon, good to see you again. We’ve spoken of this before. Yes, Europeans built the Modern World and then had the audacity to share it and man are the primitives pissed.

  25. Rapparee says:

    But Cabrera said the idea was “a complete false equivalence,” noting that whiteness isn’t a cultural identity the way being black, Japanese American or Jewish is.

    Most of the world’s white cultures are deeply indebted, in varying degrees, to Classical Greco-Roman learning, the Old and New Testaments, centuries of feudal custom, and a tradition of rigorous philosophical questioning and inquiry seeded by the Scholastics and expanded by Early Moderns. Most non-white countries don’t share those historical influences, or only picked them up from the West in the last two centuries

    We used to call that cultural identity “Christendom” until we chopped it in half, decided we hated both halves, tried to replace it with false gods of our own making, and declared it a verboten concept.

  26. Altai says:
    @candid_observer

    That’s what is so interesting about this situation. When has casual anti-white contempt (It’s worse than actual racial slurs or abuse, it’s exactly the casualness of it) and the fact that it is okay ever been made an issue these people have to defend explicitly?

    There’s been lots of side issues and debates that are ultimately about it, but never has it been an issue directly in and of itself. This is going to have serious consequences. The NYT is at the centre of this and if they fail to understand and find a way to finesse this (And I’m struggling to think of a way to do so but then I’m no PR flack) it risks making all the masks and façade fall utterly. Because the only conclusion will be that these types endorse it. And the next question will be why. (And that is the question they should be concerned about never being asked.)

    And judging from the lack of control major media outlets are exercising on their staff on Twitter not only are they failing to finesse this but actively making it worse, they are all going full Jessica Valenti.

  27. dwb says:

    A couple of thoughts.

    First, who exactly is Sarah Jeong? Why is she being given a job on the editorial page of the newspaper of record in the US? Her CV seems to be pretty damned thin for that posting. She’s all of 30 years old and has not done much more than start some on-line, jumped-up blog about “wry takes on intellectual property issues.”

    She was touted by Forbes as one of the “30 under 30″ in media, but based on what? Her blog lasted about a year in toto, and then she took up as a “contributing editor” to another virtual rag (“Motherboard” – whose ever heard of that?) She was the editor at Harvard Law of a pub called “The Journal of Law and Gender.” How influential is that, exactly? Beyond the obvious?

    Writing is a matter of taste, of course, but when this “story” broke, I looked at a couple of her pieces, and to call them “wry,” what Forbes actually means is the typical smirking, too-earnest attempt to be ironic rubbish filled with words like “shit posting.” She’s not even too clever by half.

    She’s not a writer. She has not real life experience. She’s all of 30. So she is given a job on one of the historically most significant editorial boards in the world. Based on nothing.

    Second, and more to the point, while I “get” the argument about power, and punching up vs. punching down, and the idea of power dynamics in a majority white country, the whole thing seems to be pretty inapt here.

    Defenders (like Rosenberg and Logan here, or Inka Koo in the other) would have you believe that it’s ridiculous to compare Jeong’s plainly anti-White tweets and the comments that “trolls” made to her on line because, well, Jeong is a helpless, powerless minority.

    But let’s look at the facts here.

    We have someone with the power of the megaphone, who has an cirtual platform (and now, with the NYT, a real one) to reach millions of people. She has, by her position, one would think, access to the powerful and the influential.

    She can write or tweet or go on the radio and say things that have a ring of institutional “truth” behind them because she works for the powerful. As Steve would say, people like her who in the 19060s talked of sticking it to “the man” today are “the man.”

    Yet we are made to believe that the real “powerful” person in this discussion is not Sarah Jeong, with her Harvard and Berkeley diplomas, her access to the corridors of power, and her megaphone. No. It’s some guy sitting in his basement trolling her with racist comments.

    That is insane, sorry.

    There is a power imbalance here, but it ain’t the one that Koo or Rosenberg imply.

  28. @Cloudswrest

    Explain what you mean by ‘infinite ruin’? Is this a form of parasitism?

    • Replies: @Cloudswrest
  29. eah says:

    Here is a link to a German-English Wörterbuch — go look up what “Riesen” und “Witz’” mean.

    “LOL”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  30. @Flip

    I think the Times still allow about half-a-dozen free articles per month (per IP address); that’s just enough to serve as a means of inoculation.

  31. Flip says:
    @Anonymous

    I think American whites are already there. Most white people I know are a mix of British, Irish, German, Slavic, etc.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  32. What an epic red pill gift from the New York Times…

    – Jeong expressed bigotry towards white baby boomer men. If she had simply targeted young white men or working class whites, then most well-to-do boomer men would chuckle along, then look the other way. Whoopsie!

    - She did it in such a pointed, crass way. If she had only sprinkled her bigotry between several paragraphs of sociological theorizing, it could be deemed respectable and more easily memory-holed.

    Not only did she insult the boomers, she violated their pretensions of class. It will be interesting to see if other boomer rags, like the Wall Street Journal, will cover it.

  33. Barnard says:
    @candid_observer

    Jeong hates men and the police, just as much as she hates whites.

    The Times chose this hill to die on.

    The Times doesn’t think it is going to die on this hill. They believe anti-white, anti-men and anti-police news coverage is not only warranted, it is the only justified kind of coverage that can be given to those groups. I am surprised people thought they would actually fire Jeong. They know who their readers are and what kind of coverage they want in the New York Times. These people think Ben Shapiro is beyond the pale and should be censored. With unchecked power, they would put bad thinkers in prison. They were never going to fire an editor for being too woke.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  34. Anonymous[190] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Forbes
    , @anonymous
  35. “Part of the reason it was so easy for the outrage to be manufactured in the first place was it was completely decontextualized and ahistorified,” said Nolan L. Cabrera, an associate professor

    >Implying that the outrage needed to be “manufactured”.

    >Implying that the “context” could excuse her open bigotry.

    >Implying that “ahistorified” is anything other than a weasel neologism.

    “Then it was easy to drum up anger and say it looks like she hates white people. That only makes sense if you are willfully ignorant of of 400 to 500 years’ history and contemporary social context and also the context from which the tweets were sent”

    You need to know 500 years of History before you can know whether a given individual hates something?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  36. Tulip says:

    “Part of the reason it was so easy for the outrage to be manufactured in the first place was it was completely decontextualized and ahistorified,”

    This reminds me of Ron Unz’s recent essays. I assume the outrage was because the outraged had a “decontextualized” and “ahistorified” understanding of what Ron was trying to do.

  37. Tulip says:

    No culture here:

    https://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/

    And while we are at it, where did African-American culture come from?

    African-Americans don’t speak African languages, they don’t practice African faiths, they don’t wear African clothes except when LARPing. . .

    Since it was all derived from the White people (who have no culture), can we start tweeting the N word now?

  38. @Anonymous

    The history of the English speaking peoples. – Churchill

    The historic American population. – VDare

    The Great race. – Grant

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @dfordoom
  39. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I would post this over at AmRen, but I can only get a handful of comments in there before they begin being marked with a big red “Removed” and that’s all she wrote.

  40. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Cabrera listed off examples of government policies that targeted various racial groups, including the Chinese Exclusion Act

    I believe Chinese had Foreign Devils Exclusion Act for 1000 yrs. Also, for most of Chinese history, the main reason why Chinese didn’t travel or move abroad was because the State prevented it. Not only did China exclude foreigners but forbade Chinese from moving abroad. Also, Chinese say that Western Imperialism that forced China to be ‘inclusive’ was bad.

    Btw, the US was built on exclusion. It was about whites expelling Indians and excluding them from white land. That was the very foundation of the US, so it makes no sense to bitch about how White America excluded others. Without whites conquering and excluding others, there would have been no America. Also, it was because Indians weren’t able to exclude whites that they lost their lands to whites.

    There was Operation Wetback, but there was also the Mexican-American War in which the US decided to INCLUDE all of SW into the US. I think Mexicans weren’t too happy about that.

    Also, it’s funny that despite evil white American ‘racist’ past, all these non-whites were just dying to move to white-made America. And speaking of nationalism, wasn’t it about non-whites excluding whites from their lands and sending them back home?

    The problem for everyone, white Cons included, is that Race-ism made America, and America can only exist with Race-ism. Without it, all the world lays claim to what white people made and says it is theirs. The Algerians and Viets who kicked out the French were race-ists. They had a sense of identity and place. Race-ists win. It is the anti-race-ists who lose. French decided to forgo race-ism and let in tons of Muslims and Africans who are now saying France is as much theirs.

    Anyway, what white Americans did to secure control of the land and destiny was no different from any other people. And that made America strong.
    Look at Jews and Israel. Jews summoned American muscle to support Jewish nationalism in Palestine. And Israel can only survive through exclusion of Non-Jews. Once Jews go anti-race-ist, kiss Israel good bye.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @StAugustine
    , @MEH 0910
  41. Anonymous[416] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s Okay to be Bitter-AZN

  42. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:

    The problem is that you still have huge numbers of white male Uncle Tims who will just shrug this off and tell us that we need to “lighten up” and “stop whining” (although they never give this advice to anyone besides white males, natch). I don’t know that anything short of actual anti-white pogroms with hundreds of dead would wake up the soyboy masses, and even that might not be enough.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Desiderius
  43. densa says:

    She wasn’t making fun. She was expressing her hatred of white people. No cherry-picked 400 to 500 years of history can contextualize or justify that. Here’s a quote from someone these haters claim to respect:

    “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

    I have the same dream, but it becomes more obvious that retribution against whites is our future.

  44. Anonymous[233] • Disclaimer says:

    But Cabrera said the idea was “a complete false equivalence,” noting that whiteness isn’t a cultural identity the way being black, Japanese American or Jewish is.

    She tellingly opted for “Japanese American” over “Asian”…

  45. Zogby says:

    Umm

    …Jeong’s episode has exposed a deeper rift between some conservatives

    later..

    At right-leaning outlets such as Fox News, the Daily Caller, the Gateway Pundit, Breitbart and Infowars, Jeong’s tweets were skewered as “racist,” “offensive” and “anti-white”.

    and finally

    [exactly the opposite]…said Nolan L. Cabrera, an associate professor at the University of Arizona

    Am I the only one seeing something missing here?

  46. It’s interesting to read journalists today as opposed to even a dozen years ago, their language is so infused with identity politics, it’s literally second nature to them. This is what so many neoconservatives and libertarians missed during the 1990′s, the institutionalization of political correctness at universities was going to have this ripple effect in the news media down the road in the next generation. These journos literally take the Politically Correct worldview they have been taught at the university level as an axiomatic truth, it is literally inconceivable of them to even question it, they immediately frame the issue in those terms. You can tell within the opening paragraph exactly what conclusion they are going to reach.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Forbes
  47. Anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    and, when you dig down, ridiculous.

    How so?

  48. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Jeong is why Jews love diversity. Divide and Rule.

    Pit yellow vs white while both sides serve Jews. Jeong sucks up to Jews, and Conservatives are all about ‘muh Israel’.

  49. @Lot

    I agree. The left decided the term “racist” wasn’t ideal, as it can be applied to People of Color, so it came up with “White Privilege.” Calling the left “Anti-white” is the appropriate response.

  50. So the Koreans have been in North American for 400 years? Who knew? I certainly didn’t. Miss Jeong, as a naturalized citizen, certainly hasn’t. So to boil it all down, it is basically everyone dogpile on whitey. It’s ok if you weren’t born in America and aren’t related to anyone who actually suffered say 200 years ago (Obama’s black half anyone?), just by your skin color and DNA, you’re free to join in on the dogpile. There is nothing racist about that. Oh yeah, that’s right. I went to college. Only white people can be racist.

    And the media is all in a frenzy over the “enemy of the people” comment. I am a part of the people, she is a part of the media, and it sure seems like she wants to be my enemy. Also, I love the whole Stalin theme. Funny, I don’t remember the media going out of their way to tell the history behind the name of Obama’s Forward campaign. I don’t remember the media giving us all history lessons about how Vorwärts was/is the newspaper of the Socialist Party of Germany (SPD).

    • Replies: @Forbes
  51. completely decontextualized and ahistorified

    Professor Kingfish

    • Replies: @Mink DeMille
  52. @Reg Cæsar

    I hope you’re kidding.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  53. Ibound1 says:

    In 1881, 20 years before he became a Supreme Court Justice, bland Harvard Law graduate, Oliver Wendell Holmes, gave a series of lectures, later compiled into his famous work “The Common Law, which included the following quote:

    “The life of the law has not been logic: it has been experience.”

    In 2018, 20 years before she becomes a Supreme Court Justice, Harvard Law graduate, diverse Sarah Jeong, gave a lecture about her famous work “The Internet of Garbage” which included the following quote:

    “How White men see the world …. this is why so many things suck”.

    Wow, thank heaven we no longer have WASPs as our elites. The improvement has been remarkable.

  54. @Lot

    Cabrera listed off examples of government policies that targeted various racial groups, including the Chinese Exclusion Act

    Of 1882?

    I don’t care if it was 100 days ago.

    Honestly, if conservatives, Republicans, nationalists, the “alt-right” can’t offer a spirited defense of the Chinese Exclusion Act, we might as well pack it in.

    The Chinese Exclusion Act is not “oppression”. (And i’m glad is was put in place.) Neither is the “Know-Nothings” wanting to keep my Irish ancestors out. (Glad my ancestors got in.) Neither is the Harvard’s Jewish “quota” nor the Golfocaust.

    Slavery–your labor is mine and you can’t escape–is oppression. Serfdom–you are tied to this land and i get my cut–is oppression. And yes–to keep JackD happy–get in this boxcar and you’re going to the labor camp to be worked to death–is oppression.

    But “I’m not sharing my stuff with you” is *not* oppression. And “I’m not letting you in to share my nation” is most certainly not oppression–rather it’s called “self-defense”. Without it–you’re dead.

    This entire ideology of minoritarianism that was created the last 50 years is that white people somehow owe minorities. That minorities–we’ve learned in the last few years that means any one anywhere in the world–are entitled to glom onto the nice stuff–from neighborhoods to nations–that white men create. It’s basically the ideology of the parasite–the parasite that berates the host. And it’s morally and logically repugnant.

    Whites better get off there ass, stop pouting DR3 nonsense and meet this crap head on.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast, Forbes
  55. Anon[325] • Disclaimer says:

    If it’s not a cultural identity, why do blacks and browns keep borrowing white culture and trying to move to white cultures?

  56. Whiskey says: • Website

    The Times knows that The Purge 5: Get Whitey has just opened and it’s open season on White men.

    Whites need to be like Randy Johnson on the mound. Intimidate and offer a brush back pitch.

  57. @Unladen Swallow

    It’s interesting to read journalists today as opposed to even a dozen years ago, their language is so infused with identity politics, it’s literally second nature to them. [...] the institutionalization of political correctness at universities was going to have this ripple effect in the news media down the road in the next generation.

    This is why the Alt-Right’s generational analysis is idiotic. The most militant 68ers aren’t Boomers, it’s those under forty who picked up the “loonie Left”, New Left stuff all around them. Even the nice little Beckys who staff HR departments in flyover country and unfashionable industrial parks have absorbed the New Left map of the world. It was in their textbooks.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  58. It’s complete decontextualization,
    Followed by ahistorification.
    Whitey don’t understand;
    His head’s in the sand
    Like a barnacle-crusted crustacean.

  59. Rosenberg should have named his article, “Is It Okay To Be Explicitly Racist Towards Whites?” Spoken in the tone of a 20 year old hipster saying, “Is it okay that I laugh when…?”

  60. Let me just say right now how much I love Sarah Jeong and hope the Grey Lady hires a dozen more just like her. People like her are probably Steve’s best evangelists.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  61. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    The position of the Jeong defenders makes no sense, or at least they are not playing the long game. They say it’s OK to be anti-white because white is not even a thing. But one of the best ways to make a unified people out of an undifferentiated mass is to oppress them – as the Democrat Party has shown, building your identity on victimhood is an easy sell in the modern world. Whites may not have anything in common but you can give them something in common by making them the one group that everyone else hates.

    So they themselves are speeding up the day when whites in American will have an identity (and according to their own rules, once you have a culture it’s racist to criticize that culture – no culture is better or worse than any other culture). And whites, when they do become an official “oppressed minority” will still be a hell of a big minority with a lot of political power and now angered by their oppression by the other minorities (and as we know, armed to the teeth) and the Democrats will have to pray to Gaia that they will be able to keep their coalition of the fringes together and that the angry white minority won’t be able to peel off any of the pieces of it. Like maybe Asians who are tired of getting the short end of the stick on AA, which is why it is important to have yellows like Sarah on board with the blue team and keeping everyone focused on “hate whitey”.

    • Agree: AnotherDad
  62. @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    Progressives are always claiming minorities are powerless, that they can’t be racist because they don’t control the levers of power.

    But if you’re a white man on a bus and a black man punches you in the face because you’re white, who has the power in that situation? Is the white man still the racist?

    Thirty years ago, while working as a bank teller, Paula Deen was robbed by a black man who kept a pistol pointed at her face. When describing the incident, she used that word forbidden to whites but that black people use constantly. When this was revealed, she was denounced as a racist and lost her television show and all her endorsement contracts.

    A privileged black person like Michelle Obama is indulged when she claims victimhood because people like her are followed around the aisles of convenience stores by clerks who are afraid they might steal something. For that small injury to her self-esteem, she is entitled to hold a grudge against white people. However, a white person like Paula Deen, who had a gun pointed at her head by a black man and had to wonder if she would be killed, is not even permitted to hold a grudge against that particular black person, much less black people in general.

    When President Obama would lecture us about race relations, he would always rely on this formula: black antagonism against whites should be excused on the basis of historical grievance and (perhaps) some personal experience of racism; however, no matter what their experience with blacks, no matter how bad it may have been, whites are not permitted to hold any negative attitudes toward them.

  63. @Anonymous

    Even if there were widespread and repeated massacres of precisely the sort of Uncle Tim Whites, they would still blame it on White racism and Trump’s rhetoric. These people are irredeemable. They’re irredeemable and they make up about two-thirds of the White upper-middle class.

  64. @Song For the Deaf

    Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to get the lying Fake News media to hire those thirty-thousand anti-White Millennials. I think you will be rewarded mightily by our Whites.

  65. @Anonymous

    Whoa! Now she’s really stepped in it. Let’s see the NYT try to defend that!

  66. @Harry Baldwin

    Passive voice is why we’re in this mess. They’re begging to be called out.

  67. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    Jews summoned American muscle to support Jewish nationalism in Palestine.

    When did that happen? From the founding of Israel to the Yom Kippur War, US-Israel relations were cool. The US State Dept. was filled with Arabists and had not lifted a finger to save the Jews of Europe. The Soviet Union recognized the government of Israel long before the American government. Eisenhower pressured Israel to withdraw from the Suez in the ’56 war. Then there was the little incident where the Israelis accidentally attacked an American “technical research” (cough-spy-cough) ship and killed 34 American sailors. In the war of independence, the main arms suppliers to Israel were the Soviet bloc and later the French gave Israel a nuclear reactor. If it was up to the US, to the present day, Israel would not be a nuclear power. So the idea that American muscle supported Jewish nationalism (prior to 1973) is just retconning.

  68. songbird says:

    The Chinese had their own exclusion act. It was called the Boxer Rebellion and they instituted it quite brutally when there were likely less than 20,000 foreigners of different ethnicities including Japanese, which in total comprised about 0.005% of the population.

    Meanwhile, the Koreans burned sailors alive once they stepped on shore.

    • Replies: @Anon
  69. @Anonymous

    They’re already awake – woke in fact. They’re the ones driving the train.

    Why? Because the content of their character sucks. What do you expect them to do?

  70. @Harry Baldwin

    Progressives are always claiming minorities are powerless, that they can’t be racist because they don’t control the levers of power.

    Which is in itself a very enraging case of Newspeak. On the article Steve just quoted:

    “The term ‘racism’ is not the equivalence of prejudice or bigotry. It’s an analysis of social inequality along the color lines and an analysis of power dynamics and social oppression.”

    To the vast majority of people through the birth of the word “racism” up to now, racism is equivalent to racially motivated bigotry. Progressives’ redefinition of racism has the sole purpose of making the discussion confusing, so that their lousy arguments can slip by. Sane people have no trouble recognizing that racism of whites against Korean chicks in America is potentially more harmful than the opposite, because whites are more numerous and more powerful. Sane people also have no problem recognizing that ineffective racism is still racism.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Jack D
    , @dfordoom
  71. @JimB

    Some ‘debate.’ I guess ‘debate’ now means the same thing as ‘conversation.’

  72. Jack D says:
    @eah

    Her name is Reisen (to travel), not Riesen and the -witz suffix is the Germanized version of the Slavic -vich (son of). There is nothing LOL about her name, although it is not a common name. Usually such uncommon names are the result of misspelling a more common one – maybe Rosenwitz.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  73. @dwb

    If Progressives were consistent, your remarks on her privileged position ought to be taken in consideration under the very Intersectionality Theory most Progressives subscribe to (Intersectionality being the old interaction of variables with a fancier name).

    But as we know, they care nothing for consistency.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  74. @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    Except those with shitty character. They’ve got a better shot if people are judged by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character.

  75. @Anon

    That is good : “Racists are winners.” That would really be a nuclear conversation destroyer

  76. @Jack D

    Agree, but i should tack on the obligatory insight that Steve has made–they reason they go ahead anyway is … they’ve got nothing else.

    There are plenty of pieces of their coalition of the fringes that are a “bad fit” to say the least–blacks and Mexicans, muzzies and Jews/fags/feminists. You really can’t keep it together–right now–if you don’t amp up the abuse and getting everyone feeling really “oppressed” by whitety, even though the whole point of everyone involved is to glom onto the good stuff whitety keeps cranking out.

  77. George says:

    ” whiteness isn’t a cultural identity the way being black, Japanese American or Jewish is.”

    So why is did Jeong bring up white people if they don’t exist? She did not actually meet any of her ‘tormentors’ to confirm their whiteness or even their existence. The problem is she is like people who see Jewish conspiracies everywhere, the whites only exist in her head.

    “black, Japanese American or Jewish?” A curious list. The only thing I see explaining those 3 groups is plantations, internment camps, death camps.

  78. Jack D says:
    @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    It’s a slick rhetorical trick to redefine “racism” to mean something other than “racism” and while it doesn’t work on sane people it works surprisingly well on Leftists, especially in university circles.

    It is also false. They say the “powerless” people of color (like Sarah who went to Harvard Law and sits on the editorial board of the NY Times – yup, that sounds like the very description of “powerless” to men) are INCAPABLE of racism because only the powerful can be racist. Let’s try this out. Since Sarah is INCAPABLE of racism, let’s have her criticize say …. Jewish power in America. Oops, doesn’t work. It really has nothing to do with who is doing the criticizing, it has to do with the TARGET of the criticism. EVERYONE, white, black, yellow, powerful, powerless is allowed to trash cishet white men (and ONLY cishet white men) but the whole bogus intellectual framework that they set up has no explanatory power for that.

    What it is really like is the old joke about an American debating a Soviet Communist. The American explains that America is more free than the USSR because in the US he can go stand in front of the White House and hold up a sign criticizing the President of the United States and nothing will happen to him. And the Russian replies, “in Soviet Union is exactly same thing. I can go stand in front of Kremlin and hold up sign criticizing the President of the United States and nothing will happen to me!”

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  79. @Jack D

    I should have taken German instead of French in high school. Much more interesting.

    (Of course if I’d known what was coming, I would have taken Spanish.)

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  80. anonymous[733] • Disclaimer says:

    Yeah, but Christianity is a cultural identity and those who are attacking whites are doing so, in furthering the goals of the enemies of Christ. It just using a different label, whites instead of Christians. But the secret goal is to do harm to Christ and Christians. Can’t you see?

  81. “[W]hiteness isn’t a cultural identity the way being black, Japanese American or Jewish is.”

    That’s what needs to change.

  82. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t necessarily agree with everything said below but for sake of polemics, if we were to fight fire with fire…

    “But in a country in the midst of a painful debate about white supremacy and privilege,”

    [MORE]

    But WHO is keeping this ‘white supremacy’ bullshit alive? It’s the Jew-run media that uses ‘white supremacy’ and ‘white privilege’ as diversionary tactic to distract people from the fact that the US is a Jewish-Supremacist nation. Jews are 2% of the population but own 50% of the wealth. They own Hollywood, Las Vegas, Big Pharma(mostly Harma), Ivy Leagues, State Department, US intelligence, Big Media, Real Estate, top law firms, and etc.
    Jews rule America, and Jews use American Power to promote Jewish supremacism around the world. We are forced to support Zionist Judeo-Nazis in their mass murder of Palestinians. IDF death squads gun down Palestinians who want to return home. The reason why US foreign policy cannot be fair to Palestinians is because Jews control whore politicians and the official narrative. Jews use their muscle to shut down BDS, which is about free speech. Where do you see Nazis or white supremacists in Hollywood, Las Vegas, Wall Street, Ivy Leagues, Big Law firms, Big media, etc? They are all run by Jewish supremacist Judeo-Nazis. All the wars in the Middle East have been Wars for Israel. Neocon Jews used Bush to smash Iraq with lies about WMD. Washington Post supported this act of imperialism. Jews used Obama to smash Libya, once the nicest nation in Africa. Now, it’s in ruins. And Jews used Obama and Hillary to support Alqaeda elements in Syria. US also aided Saudi support of ISIS in the region, and Israel treated ISIS fighters who were cutting heads off Arab Christians.

    And why is the US so anti-Iran? Iran has NO nukes and has always allowed inspections and complied with international standards. Israel allows no inspections, never signed onto nuclear non-proliferation treaties, stole US uranium, and and has 300 nukes. Yet, US showers Israel with billions in aid while sanctioning Iran? Sounds to me like Jewish supremacism in action.
    Obama did one good thing in easing ties with Iran, but Jews around Trump are forcing his hand against Iran. So, all this anti-Iran stuff is the result of Jewish supremacism.
    And then, there’s this craziness about Russia. This Anti-Russia Hate and Hysteria are the result of Jewish supremacism. Not only did Jews lead the Bolshevik Revolution that led to the deaths of 10 million Christian Slavs(as well as scores of other goyim) and the smashing of 50,000 churches, Jews later raped the Russian economy in the 1990s after the fall of communism. Handful of Russian-Jewish oligarchs, with help of Jewish American advisers, looted the whole economy. Putin was put in power as a puppet by Jews around Yeltsin, but he turned against Jewish oligarchs and restored some measure of national sovereignty for Russians. THAT is why Jewish Supremacists hate him and Russia. Jewish supremacists think Russia belongs to them.

    So, don’t gimme this shit about ‘white supremacism’. So-called Nazis have NO power in the US. Indeed, anyone associated with even slightest bit of white pride or white identity are doxed and fired from even jobs such as waitering and other lowly jobs. It is Jews who can spout anti-Russia, anti-Iranian, anti-white, anti-Christian, and anti-Palestinian vitriol and be showered with millions and the nicest plushest jobs. Jonathan Pollard was a dirty spy whose deeds led to deaths of 1000s but Jewish power got him freed and he was given a cushy job upon release. Yeah, tell me about how the US is white supremacist. It is JEWISH SUPREMACIST.

    Eli Rosenberg and his ilk pretend to be ‘progressive’ but they work day in and day out to ensure that the US will favor Zionist imperialists over Palestinian nationalists who want their nation back. And just like Jews destroyed Palestine with Jewish mass migration-invasion, they are trying to destroy white nations with massive migration-invasion. Why? Because Jews love People of Color? No, it’s because Jews seek to increase Diversity so that Jewish overlords can play divide and rule among goyim. Indeed, Jews are doing just that by pitting Jeong the yellow Asian against whites. Notice Jeong won’t go after the real power, which is Jewish Power. It’s Jews who control Ivy Leagues to keep Asian numbers down. It’s Jews who use Hollywood to feature Asians in roles as villains. It’s Jews who vilify whites in media and on TV. But Jews whites vs yellows just like Jews love to sow division in the Middle East and make Muslims fight Muslims.

    “But others were quick to say that the statements Jeong made could be skewed as racist only if the culture, history and current sociopolitical context of the United States were ignored.”

    This is total BS. There is a difference between combating white bigotry and making vile comments about whites in general. Her tweets were not pointed or satirical with specific target in mind. They were generalized and broad. Also, there is more than one single context for American History.
    Jeong came to the US long after overt white bigotry had subsided. She didn’t experience any of the white bias against her kind. If anything, she benefited greatly from coming to a nation made by whites, and her own nation modernized under Western influence. If not for Western Influece, she would be some peasant girl beating a dog to death for dinner.
    Also, unlike blacks, her kind wasn’t forced to come to the US. Also, unlike American Indians, her kind didn’t lose their land to whites. Her kind has no claim to US tragedy. (Also, given that 40% of Koreans were slaves at the turn of the century in 1900, her kind were hardly the most enlightened people on earth. Her kind enslaved 40% of their own kind, and slavery finally ended in Korea only under Japanese colonization.) Her anti-white hatred is not natural. It was drummed into her by media and academia controlled by Jews. She picked it from books and classrooms dominated by the Jewish narrative. Jews seek to increase diversity among goyim so that goyim won’t be able to unite to challenge Jewish elite power. That is why Jews welcome Diversity-immigration into the US and then drum anti-white hatred into their young ones. If Jeong is such a courageous speaking of truth to the power, why is she so silent about Jewish supremacist power? Will she speak up for Palestinians being murdered by IDF death squads? Will she call on NYT to commemorate 2018 as the Year of Nakba Pogroms? Of course not. She’s just a well-trained dog used by Jews to bark at whitey.

    Besides, if US is so evil and has such an evil history, why did all those non-whites want to come to the US? Indeed, this should be asked of Jews. When Jews chose their immigration targets, why did they choose white-made nations? Why didn’t Jews prefer to move to Africa or Latin America? Why don’t Jews move to such nations today if they love immigration so much? Funny that Jews bitch about whites but only want to remain in white-made nations. And Jews also demand that white nations support Israel’s brutal colonization of Palestinians.

    Why did Jews come to white-made US? US was made by whites taking lands from Indians. But Jews came to sell guns and supplies to whites so they could kill more Indians. Indeed, immigration was the imperialism that destroyed the Indians. Also, Jews didn’t oppose slavery in the US. If anything, they took part in the slave trade. The biggest slavers in Brazil, which took in 10x the number of slaves, were Jewish. Jews supported more immigration that would mean west-ward expansion and genocide of Indians. Jewish bankers also funded Western Imperialism. Jews were also the main sellers of Opium in China. David Sassoon the Jew was the kingpin of the opium trade that destroyed so many Chinese lives.
    So, the notion that Jewish experience is separate from white power or white imperialism is bullshit. Jews played a huge role in it. Not only did Jews push for more immigration in the US, leading to total destruction of the Indians whose lands were swamped by white and Jewish immigrants, they also got the UK, US, and USSR to support Jewish migration-invasion into Palestine, eventually leading to destruction of Palestine. Israel was created on the graveyard of Palestine. 2018 is the 70th anniversary of Nakba Pogroms that wiped out Palestine, but there is no TV special, no movie, or memorial to commemorate the suffering of Palestinians. Why? Jewish supremacism rules America. And Jeong and other Yellow barking dogs are mere agents of Jewish Supremacism. Jews hire People of Color to bark at white to create the impression that White Supremacism and White Privilege controls America.

    Also, Jews promote mass migration to push blacks out of cities. Jews claim to love blacks, but Jews only prize blacks as profitable talent in music and sports. If anything, Jews do everything to use gentrification to push blacks out of the fanciest cities. And immigrants are useful in this. Bring in more immigrants into cities to replace blacks with. Jews cover up what they’re doing by making token gestures toward blacks and by supporting Obama the uncle tom jackass who did nothing for blacks but everything for Jews and homos. (Jews also ordered Obama to recruit real Neo-Nazis to pull off the coup in Ukraine. Jews allied with Alqaeda in Syria and with Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. This is how depraved Jewish supremacist power is.) Jews have blacks fooled that Diversity is this wonderful coalition of blacks and other non-whites, but non-white immigrants out-compete blacks in everything but sports and pop music.
    Right after blacks got their chance with the Civil Rights Act of 1964, they had to compete with the entire world the next year with the Immigration Act of 1965 that opened the floodgates to the world. Not only are whites being replaced but blacks are being replaced by masses of immigrants. Jews promote blackness as a brand while excluding blacks as a people. Why has the black population of Chicago been going down? Because of Jewish and yuppie gentrification and because Jews use Mexicans and others to replace blacks. And same goes for Washington DC.

    “Part of the reason it was so easy for the outrage to be manufactured in the first place was it was completely decontextualized and ahistorified,”

    But the question is Whose Context? There is always more than one context. Take Jews and whites in historical context. Under the context favored by Classic Christians, Jews were Christ-killers, parasitic nomadic tribesmen, the money changers and usurers, radicals and subversives. So, under such a context, anti-Jewish invective was justified.
    But Jews see it differently. Under context favored by Jews, Christians were anti-Semites, idiots with pitchforks, irrational mobs with crazy hatred, drunkards itching for pogroms. Under those contexts, anti-Christian invective was justified.

    There is no single context. One can recollect all the dark elements of US history and make whites out to be the bad guys. But one can also select all the shining elements of the US and make white people to be the good guys. After all, the world wants to come to take part in what white people envisioned and created. The fact is whatever bad things white did, there would be NO America without Anglos and Europeans. US exists only as an extension of European/Western Civilization. Take the American Western Movie. Whites can be good or bad in them depending on the context. If the context is ‘whites tame the wilderness, build towns, bring law and order, and spread civilization’, then white victory over Indians is noble. But if the context is ‘Indians were children of nature living in harmony with rivers and trees, but whites came and destroyed the pristine wilderness and replaced them with concrete and glass and materialism’, then whites are the bad guys. There is no single context.

    Also, take the contextual battle between Jews vs Palestinians in Israel. Both sides favor different context. Palestinians see Jewish takeover in the context of British imperialism, US intervention, worldwide Zionist menace, and etc. But Jews see the creation of Israel as the fulfillment of the Jewish dream for the lost homeland, rise of democracy in Middle East, justice for Jews, especially given what happened in WWII. So, which context is correct?

    At any rate, Jeong’s hateful remarks only make sense within the context of PC-saturated culture. Jews control the culture and media, and they instill such vile anti-white hatred in all kids, whites and non-whites alike. This is why people like Jeong parrot such PC lines. Indeed, it’s dime-a-dozen and so cliched. People like Jeong know that speaking truth to Jewish supremacist power means career doom, but sucking up to Jews and bashing whites opens up career prospects. That too is a context worth considering.

    “Nolan L. Cabrera, an associate professor at the University of Arizona who will publish a book in the fall about racial attitudes held by white college students”

    Cabrera? Hispanic? Where do these asshole Hispanics come off pretending to be people of color? These Hispanics were the original conquerors of the New World. They spread disease to kill tens of millions. They raped native women by the bushel. Indeed, the mestizo is essentially the product of rape of indigenous women by white Hispanic conquistadors. Hispanics conquered the Americas and used the natives as peons and slaves, but they come to the US and pretend to be people of color. What a joke. Diversity has always been the product of imperialism.
    After all, the natives of the Americas didn’t ask for Diversity. They didn’t ask to be conquered by whites. They didn’t ask whites to bring over millions of African slaves. And American Indians didn’t ask Anglo settlers to welcome millions of more immigrant-imperialists who would move westward and commit genocide against Indians and take Indian lands.
    THAT is diversity. Yet, Hispanics, these awful imperialist practitioners of Diversity, come to the US and lecture gringos about ‘racism’. Gimme a freaking break. Cabrera may be part Indio, but he looks mostly white to me. And the history of Latin America is one of genocide, imperialism, slavery, and rape. So, people like him to clean up their own house in Latin America than coming to the US to preach sermons about ‘racismo’. Also, why is it called ‘Latin America’?
    Take Mexico, for example. Indians and Mestizos outnumber Latin Whites. So, why is it called considered part of Latin America? Is Philippines called “Latin Asia” because the Spanish once conquered and raped that part of the world too?

    “Cabrera listed off examples of government policies that targeted various racial groups, including the Chinese Exclusion Act”

    I believe Chinese had Foreign Devils Exclusion Act for 1000 yrs. Also, for most of Chinese history, the main reason why Chinese didn’t travel or move abroad was because the Chinese State prevented it. Not only did China exclude foreigners but forbade Chinese from moving abroad. Also, Chinese Narrative says that Western Imperialism that forced China to be ‘inclusive’ and forced open its borders was bad and began the 100 yrs of humiliation.
    After all, Open Borders began with imperialism. Nationalists want to defend their own homelands. Imperialists — Romans, Mongols, Ottomons, etc — want to pry open the borders of other lands to create a world empire. The reason why Jews and POC hate Trump is American Nationalism would serve as a brake to Jewish globalist imperialism and barrier to non-white demographic invasion into white lands(because non-whites prefer white-made nations and white people over their own kind despite their anti-white vitriol; indeed, anti-whiteness is used by Jews and non-whites to paralyze whites with ‘white guilt’ so that whites won’t be able to defend their own nice domains; that is the great paradox about anti-white rhetoric; it’s not about non-whites wanting to move away from whites but move toward whites; ‘white guilt’ is useful in weakening the white resolve to say NO to more invasions by non-whites who want to take from whites).

    I’ll bet Tibetans would love to practice Chinese Exclusion Act because Han Chinese migration is utterly changing that place. There is NOTHING WRONG with excluding foreigners. Without such policy, no nation could survive. After WWII, the main theme of non-white peoples was ‘WESTERN IMPERIALISTS GO HOME’. They wanted to exclude whites from their lands. They wanted to regain sovereignty from white invasion. As Gandhi said, “it’s time you left”. Also, when will white Hispanics leave Latin America? Whites left Africa, Asia, and Middle East. But white minorities(people who look like Cabrera) still lord over the non-white majorities of Latin America.

    There was a time when Californian population was quite small in the 19th century. If the US had allowed massive Chinese immigration back then, Chinese(with their huge population) could have taken over and made it essentially a Chinese colony. This is why Russians don’t allow massive Chinese migration into Siberia. If a people don’t exclude others, they lose their land to foreigners. It was precisely because Palestinians couldn’t stop Jewish migration-invasion that they lost Palestine to Jews. Korea and Manchuria was once nearly swallowed up by Japanese. Japanese enforced Open Borders between Japan and Korea/Taiwan/Manchuria, and Japanese once colonized those lands like Jews colonized Palestine. Upon end of WWII, Chinese and Koreans pushed Japanese back to Japan. Exclusion works. It saves nations from imperialism. How nice if Iraq and Libya could have excluded US intervention. But US invaded and forced open borders on them. US also aided terrorists to break through Syrian borders. Result has been 500,000 deaths and massive destruction. Jews pushed those policies, but of course, Jeong, the pet dog of Jews, will never discuss those issues. She was raised by her parents to study hard and suck up to the top power and gain entrance into elite institutions. In Jew-ruled US, the price of admission is you have to be anti-white. Why do Jews suppress white identity? Jews need whites to suppress their own identity and serve Jewish identity & interests in order to sustain Jewish supremacism. Notice Paul Ryan attacks the Alt Right and any vestige of white identity but is all about I LOVE ISRAEL AS IT GUNS DOWN PALESTINIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN; I’M SO PROUD THAT 3% OF MY DNA IS JEWISH. So, Ryan isn’t allowed to express any pride in the 97% of him that is white, but for the 3% that is Jewish, he’s Jews Uber Alles.

    It was because black Africans couldn’t say NO to white colonizers that whites were taking over vast areas of Africa in the 19th century. This is why non-whites eventually rose up and pushed out whites of their lands.
    Why did SW territories go from Mexican to American? Because the Mexican government foolishly allowed massive Anglo migration into those territories. As Anglos began to outnumber Mexicans in many areas, they just grabbed the lands for America. And now, the process is reversed. Because gringos allowed mass migration by Mexicans, much of SW is reverting back to Mexico. People are invasive organisms. Just ask the Palestinians what happens when you can’t say NO to foreign migration. You end up living under occupation and apartheid.

    Btw, the US was built on exclusion. It was about whites expelling Indians and excluding them from white land. That was the very foundation of the US, so it makes no sense to bitch about how White America excluded others. Without whites conquering and excluding others, there would have been no America.

    Indeed, suppose whites never came to the America and it was still ruled by Indian tribes. Who would want to come here? The only reason why the world wants to come to the US is because whites conquered and made nice nations out of it. Non-whites around the world can’t replicate the success in their own lands, so they move to white nations to have the good life.
    So, why do they hate whites so much if they prefer white-made nations over their own? It’s because US came under Jewish control and because Jews promote anti-white hatred to distract people from the fact that Jews are the new ruling elites of America. Indeed, Jewish power hides behind whiteness. So much of so-called ‘white privilege’ is really held by Jews in elite institutions and industries. By calling them ‘white’, people fail to see the Jewish power behind them.

    Also, it’s because non-whites are too ashamed to admit that they prefer whites and white-made nations over their own nations, peoples, and cultures. Indeed, if Asians love Asia so much, why are so many of them lining up to move to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the US, all made by Anglo whites? If they love diversity so much, why don’t they apply to move to Latin America where whites are already a minority?

    And it’s the same with Jews. If Jews are so appalled by ‘white supremacism’, why did Jews also follow Anglo conquest and success? Why didn’t Jews boycott immigration to US on grounds that US was founded on holocaust-genocide of the Indians and slavery of blacks and exploitation of Chinese labor in building railroads. Jews make all these anti-white noises to make themselves seem ‘compassionate’, but they’ve always followed and profited from white success.
    After all, what was the favored African destination for Jews? It was South Africa, and indeed, Jews have immense fortunes there all because they piggybacked on white power over there. Jews had no interest in moving to black-ruled African nations. If anything, Apartheid South Africa was Israel’s #1 ally during the Cold War.

    PS. Speaking of context, it sure didn’t prevent this guy from getting fired:

    And context didn’t save Helen Thomas either. Given the context of Jewish ethnic cleansing of Arabs from their own homeland, wasn’t Thomas right to be angry? I guess not.

    Also, so much of ‘white racism’ or whatever can be justified in the context of Black Rampage, or black crime and violence that terrorize so many whites.
    Also, white anxiety makes perfect sense considering demographic trends and considering what happens to a people who are (1) turned into a minority in their own land and (2) vilified as subhuman. Just look what happened to Palestinians who suffered that fate… ironically with full support of whites who aided Zionism… only to see Zionists turn around and do the same to whites in US and EU.
    And given the context of Jewish behavior in Russia in the 1990s, why shouldn’t whites grow more wary of Jewish Power? When Soros and his ilk go around destroying nations and then flooding ‘refugees’ into white nations as ‘new Europeans’, it’s dumb not to worry. Dumb Speech is worse than ‘hate speech’.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    , @Anonymous
  83. “Then it was easy to drum up anger and say it looks like she hates white people. That only makes sense if you are willfully ignorant of 400 to 500 years’ history …”

    I am indeed ignorant of the part of history where Korea was colonized and oppressed by white people for 400 to 500 years. (Maybe Cabrera is counting the Japanese as honorary whites in this context?But even they first bothered to annex The Hermit Kingdom in 1910.) As for US involvement in South Korea since the war, you’d think they’d be grateful: in the 1950s, South Korea and Ghana had roughly the same per capita income. By 1990, South Korea’s per capita income was 10 times larger than Ghana’s. The Amerikan occupiers sure oppressed the hell out of them.

  84. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    This guy got fired. I wonder why.

  85. syonredux says:

    But Cabrera said the idea was “a complete false equivalence,” noting that whiteness isn’t a cultural identity the way being black, Japanese American or Jewish is.

    Is “Asian” a cultural identity? It’s certainly treated as such by SJWs…….

    “Part of the reason it was so easy for the outrage to be manufactured in the first place was it was completely decontextualized and ahistorified,” said Nolan L. Cabrera, an associate professor at the University of Arizona who will publish a book in the fall about racial attitudes held by white college students.

    Wait, I thought that Whiteness isn’t a cultural identity…but here you are doing a study about “racial attitudes held by white college students”…..

    calling racism a “systemic reality” that necessarily favors white people.

    “You hear that all the time: Substitute white and put in minority group x,” Cabrera said. “The term ‘racism’ is not the equivalence of prejudice or bigotry.

    So, it’s OK to be prejudiced or a bigot, but being racist is bad……

    • Replies: @ThirdWorldSteveReader
  86. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    One wonders… out of all those Asians in journalism, surely one could be found for editorial board who is thoughtful and sane. But NYT goes with Jeong? It goes to show NYT uses diversity of color to hide monotony of message. Because Jeong is so out there in her SJW nuttery, NYT knows she is a useful sockpuppet.

    The level of outrage about Jeong is somewhat disingenuous among white conservatives. There are SO MANY Jews in media who’ve said same thing or worse(and actually instilled such attitudes in POC), but most white cons will remain mute about Nasty Jews. It’s like cons will beat on Muslims without facing the fact that Muslim immigration to the US has been engineered by Jewish forces. Also, Muslim ‘refugees’ are the result of Wars for Israel, but no outrage about that either.

  87. Forbes says:
    @fish

    … But others were quick to say that the statements Jeong made

    Gotta love the passive voice…

  88. “The term ‘racism’ is not the equivalence of prejudice or bigotry.”

    And “the equivalence of” is not the equivalent of “the equivalent of”.

  89. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    “It’s getting hard to keep up: racism is “systemic;” racism only happens when punching down; racism is “intersectional.””

    Indeed, racism, along with rape, sexism, white privilege, race realism, cuckservatives…the Coalition of the Fringes Left and Right are having a veritable field day catering to their audience within the past half decade.

    “The complexities and penumbrae of “racism” keep subdividing, all to justify the Left’s core belief: white people are racist by virtue of existing, and non-whites can never be racist.”

    That would be a false premise. Just like Richard Spencer only speaks for white nationalists, not all whites, Sarah Jeong only speakers for SJW’s, not all liberals. But like all extremists, it’s much easier to make generalizations like the Left = white people are racist and the Right = Muslims are terrorists. It requires little thinking on the matter.

    “Hence, “racism” isn’t a substantive concept. It’s a fluid, rhetorical device to beat people over the head with.”

    If racism was other than a substantive concept, then the Alt Right would not be all in a tizzy.

    “I welcome the NY Times’ hire of anti-white shrew Sarah Jeong. I hope they and other major media organs hire more like her. It’s clarifying.”

    Indeed. She is one of several writers who cater to a specific audience. Liberals and conservatives each have their own distinct flavors, but the opposition insists they all taste the same.

    • Replies: @Poco
    , @Paul Yarbles
    , @ic1000
  90. @Jack D

    So until LBJ the jews didn’t make us support them? There was that unpleasantnesss with JFK,but these things happen. And Bobby,too. But for a long time the jews let us live in peace? Thanks Jews.

  91. Received wisdom said Irish and Italians became white. If there is no such thing as white, does that mean the Irish and Italians are still POC?

  92. Forbes says:
    @JimB

    Smokescreen? More like “change the subject.” There’s no debate, painful or otherwise. “White privilege” is a wholly invented term for precisely this sort of change the subject distraction to avoid talking about inconvenient truths.

    As to a deeper rift between some conservatives–the WaPo doesn’t know any conservatives…

    Talk about circling the wagons, this is exposing the media for its true colors.

  93. @Reg Cæsar

    And the South American cereal.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  94. @Jack D

    The US State Dept. was filled with Arabists and had not lifted a finger to save the Jews of Europe.

    Other than reigning down fire and death upon the German people, and launching an invasion to open a 2nd front and with the Soviets end the Nazi regime.

    Note: i know what you’re getting at, but the plain fact is by the time anyone knew how bizzare and extreme the Nazi program was, the West was already at war with Germany. Yeah, we could have–maybe should have–tut-tutted them more. But we weren’t going to change their behavior–”Oh look Roosevelt is lecturing us, we must stop!”–we were at war. What are we going to do bomb them? Uh … done. The program to save the Jews–and everyone else for that matter–was victory.

    ~

    Agree on Israel. I think there was a long and complicated evolution, involving both foreign and domestic politics. One factor, was the drift of Nasser towards the Soviets. The US had–correctly–want to be seen as on board with modernizing nationalists, like Nasser. But after an Israel raid–the gift that keeps on giving–he was out weapons shopping and the terms Eisenhower offered, which came with US advisors and such, were not acceptable and Nasser made a deal with the Czechs. The USSR followed up with supporting the Aswan dam and the US backed out of that. Nasser recognized China, that didn’t go over well either. Essentially Nasser and the US drifted apart as Nasser wanted to play both sides/be neutral, while the US really wanted to build a solid anti-Soviet alliance. That along with the rise of the Jews in influence and Jewish-American bandwagoning after the Six Day War seem to be the main factors. I don’t know enough to pick apart what was really critical in the flip.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Whiskey
  95. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    Note: i know what you’re getting at, but the plain fact is by the time anyone knew how bizzare and extreme the Nazi program was, the West was already at war with Germany.

    The Holocaust did not begin until AFTER the United States formally entered the war.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  96. Whiskey says: • Website
    @AnotherDad

    Not really, Nasser and the Soviets rapidly aligned into an anti US bloc threatening the worlds gas station, Saudi Arabia. Under Johnson and Nixon the US increasingly backed Israel including resupply during the AYom Kippur War. As the only realistic alternative.

    @[email protected]”$$%# iPhone won’t let me edit above

  97. Forbes says:
    @dwb

    She really comes across as an empty suit. A diversity hire. A white male grad of Harvard Law that had done nothing but write on-line would never have been hired. Welcome the Participation Trophy America, where accomplishment isn’t necessary–just flash your Pokemon Victim Points card to move ahead.

    Maybe there’s something to Harvard putting a soft cap on Asian admissions after all…

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    , @dwb
  98. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Flip

    Yes, most white Americans are, and are increasingly, a mix of various ethnicities. But a general white identity and peoplehood haven’t developed yet. The mixing is sort of the first step towards it.

  99. @syonredux

    That should be one answer to them: even if you don’t call it racism, is this sort of bigotry acceptable?

  100. Forbes says:
    @Barnard

    Agreed. NYT not dying on this hill. The NYT lives on this stuff. It’s the NYT coming out of the closet for all to see what thoughts they’ve secretly–and not so secretly–harbored all these years. It’s clarifying.

    As I’ve been saying for sometime, media is entertainment. The NYT is in the entertainment business–and any actual “news” reported is an accidental by-product.

    To expect the NYT to behave otherwise is foolish. They are the bread n’ circuses aspect of civilizational decline.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @adreadline
  101. IBC says:
    @Jack D

    The Soviet Union recognized the government of Israel long before the American government.

    “Long” as in several months earlier? It was May 17, 1948 versus Jan. 31, 1949. And it says in Wikipedia that the US “promptly” granted Israel de facto recognition, and then about seven months later, after Israel’s first elections, de jure recognition –just like Stalin (the great philo-Semite) had already done all those long months before.

    Jack, didn’t Steve just write about how he tries to check specific facts before he posts? You write some interesting things and I don’t want to elbow you too hard, but quality over quantity and be careful not to bruise your own chest with the tone of some of these comments…

    • Replies: @Jack D
  102. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous

    You’d have thought, by the time she was 26 (age at posting) she’d have outgrown boys, and would be attracted to men–but you’d be wrong. Such is the permanent adolescence and juvenilia of today’s Millennial generation.

  103. @Jack D

    EVERYONE, white, black, yellow, powerful, powerless is allowed to trash cishet white men (and ONLY cishet white men)

    Don’t forget, Jeong also trashed white women.

  104. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Simple Psuedonym

    Churchill was writing about the natives of Britain and their colonies. Grant was writing about the “Nordic race”, and in The Passing of the Great Race he was arguing that the Nordic race in the US was in danger from the immigration of non-Nordics from eastern and southern Europe. Both were writing about more narrow groupings than whites in general. By “historic American population”, VDare means something more inclusive, namely whites in general, regardless of ethnicity.

  105. @Anonymous

    So hipsters in Portland will wake up one morning and realize that they need to join in racial solidarity with guidos in Newark and rednecks in Birmingham? Good luck with that.

    There are tens of millions of melanin-deficient proles who shop at Wal-Mart and eat at Denny’s. The pasty SWPLs who frequent Starbucks and Trader Joe’s regard these folks as white trash – untouchable Untermenschen. SWPLs like soccer; good ol’ boys like NASCAR; never the twain shall meet.

    White America was far more racially, ethnically, and culturally homogeneous in 1860 than it is today, and yet our ancestors ended up fighting a horrendous civil war. White Christian Southerners learned that their white Christian “brothers” from the North were only too willing to slaughter them like dogs for the sake of securing long-term economic dominance.

    To the extent that American whites of disparate ethnic backgrounds can be merged together into a single cohesive group, it has already happened. As someone else pointed out, many white Americans are “mutts,” with ancestors from various parts of Europe.

    It’s likely that the GOP will end up as the “white” party, more or less by default, but the notion that American whites will somehow magically merge into a monolithic “racially-aware” ethnic group is ahistorical nonsense. It’s mutilated Marxism – “Whites of the world, unite!”

    In practice, “pan-Europeanism” leads to something like the European Union (at best) or the former Yugoslavia (at worst).

    For every Richard Spencer, there is a Vox Day:

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/07/mailvox-open-letter-to-vox-day.html

  106. Forbes says:
    @Unladen Swallow

    These journos literally take the Politically Correct worldview they have been taught at the university level as an axiomatic truth, it is literally inconceivable of them to even question it, they immediately frame the issue in those terms.

    The indoctrination is complete. Try having a conversation with some of these (generational) dolts–they literally know nothing, just as Obama’s boy, Ben Rhodes said.

  107. Forbes says:
    @A guy in Germany

    Inconvenient facts will be ignored.

    These folks (NYT, Jeong, et al.) are partisan activists with an agenda. The “news” business is a cover story for the charade.

  108. eah says:
    2447103

    Speaking of someone’s viewpoint being a joke:

    • Agree: TheBoom
    • Replies: @eah
  109. eah says:
    @eah

    Speaking further of ridiculous takes…

    Eilmeldung!! — Jeff Flake has discovered a paragon of democracy heißt Zimbabwe — but not yet a dictionary apparently since he misspelled kerosene.

  110. TheBoom says:

    The glaring contractions of daily condemning white people coupled with saying there is no such thing as white people and white identity seems to work well for the Left. I imagine the more this hypocrisy is shoved in the face of whites, the more they will start to ignore the taboo against a white identity while still acknowledging that not all whites are the same.

  111. The comments in that Washington Post article are overwhelmingly critical. The most liked posts (with over a hundred or two hundred “likes”) include one by a black woman who says Jeong is FOS, and another by a South Asian who says he is grateful to be allowed into the house that the white man built ( more or less in those words) and that he recognizes that he is doing better than many whites and worse than a few.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
    , @Anonymous
  112. @Father O'Hara

    And the South American cereal.

    I’m not really quinoa on that stuff.

  113. Jack D says:
    @IBC

    I know exactly how long it was. One was the day after Israel declared independence and the other was a long 8 months later after Israel had already won the war.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @IBC
    , @Johann Ricke
  114. TheBoom says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Will be interesting to see if Jeong manages to reduce the positive image whites have of Asians and support whites give Asians when there is a quota on them (e.g., Harvard). After all, if Asians really hate us, in spite of how they have prospered, why should we help them prosper especially since removal of quotas at universities may result in fewer whites?

  115. @Harry Baldwin

    I prefer leukophobe.

    I hope you’re kidding.

    No. It’s Greek to me.

  116. @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    But as we know, they care nothing for consistency.

    Not true. They are most decidedly, and ardently, consistent about their desire for power.

  117. Poco says:
    @Corvinus

    An observation. You are a consistently dishonest individual.

    • Agree: res
  118. Lagertha says:

    being white….is not monolithic.

  119. IBC says:

    If “whiteness” isn’t a cultural identity, then why is “acting white” such a flashpoint within the African-American “community”?

    And why should a newly-minted K̶o̶r̶e̶a̶n̶ Asian-American like Jeong, feel aggrieved about something like the Chinese Exclusion Act; a law from 136 years ago, that was stricken from the books in 1943, while Korea was still under A̶s̶i̶a̶n̶ Japanese domination?

    And isn’t there a good chance that if Korea hadn’t had its own version of the Chinese Exclusion Act in place for about the last 1,500 years, today the whole peninsula would be just another Chinese province?

    The New York Times was actually founded by two white men: one from Western New York and the other from Vermont. That doesn’t mean that everyone who works there has to be white and male, but it’s true perversity (and a sign of deeper mental issues) to loathe the kinds of people who built, and for most of history, maintained the institutions which one now actively seeks to become a part of. Like it or not, “white” culture is the basis for a large majority of “American” culture past and present. And that probably won’t change as long as any sense of national unity persists. So with that being said, hyphenated Americans of whatever racial background, who burn with resentment against white people and white culture, are not just haters –they are self-haters.

    • Agree: Dtbb
  120. @Forbes

    I agree as well. I know very little about news organizations, and never, ever worked for one, but what it seems to me at first thought is that those who are in charge of The New York Times, knowing they have a century and a half old, still renowned and fairly widely read newspaper under their command, are doing what they can to keep it relevant in the Information Age and in the face of possibly growing influence of other newspapers, including foreign ones.

    Regardless of whether they keep that lady or not, their objective was accomplished: they have called attention to themselves, and that will likely improve their market value and number of subscribers. The threat of falling into relative obscurity, as it apparently had happened with the Washington Post before the world’s wealthiest goblin bought it, is the one thing that news organizations want to avoid the most, as it wrecks their profitability.

    The more attention others give them, the better for them. Hiring a highly toxic, possibly even malodorously so Asian-American anti-white rabid female will make you and me and everyone else pay more attention to them in a way that will get them more regular, paying readers (even if that doesn’t include you or me in particular), they know it, and so they did just that.

  121. IBC says:
    @Jack D

    Easy Jack. Don’t sacrifice your own health to get a chuckle from me!

  122. MEH 0910 says:
    @Anon

    The URL to Anon[425]‘s comment is pictured in this Matthew Yglesias tweet:

    • Replies: @Jappy
  123. Jappy says:

    understand that we are experiencing the reverberations of Boasian Anthropology crumbling in the face of racial reality

  124. Jappy says:
    @MEH 0910

    Jews have no scriptural prohibitions against mass murder and genocide to safeguard the Pharisaic oral law’s existence as singularly expressed in Talmudic passages

  125. Dtbb says:
    @Anonymous

    How bout “whites are the smallest minority in the world”.

  126. @Jack D

    I know exactly how long it was. One was the day after Israel declared independence and the other was a long 8 months later after Israel had already won the war.

    The Soviets had the Czechs provide Me-109 clones to the Israelis. Given how tiny the Israeli margin of victory was, I’d say if those planes hadn’t been available, there might not be an Israel today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avia_S-199#Israeli_service

  127. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

  128. anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Tiny Duck

    Are you calling the hotline?

    WOODRIDGE, IL — Woodridge police are investigating the source of racist and anti-Semitic leflets that were placed in residents’ mailboxes. Chief Brian Cunningham said in a news release that many residents reached out because they were “concerned about the hurtful nature of the leaflets.”

    The leaflets were found in the Farmingdale Village subdivision on Friday, July 27. Police say the mail carrier removed many of the pamphlets to “[prevent] wider distribution.”

    Woodridge Mayor Gina Cunningham denounced the racist leaflets in an official statement Friday, saying she was “shocked and saddened” by the content. She added, “There is no place for hate in Woodridge.”

    Police are asking anyone with information on the leaflets to contact the Woodridge Police Department at 630-960-8998.

  129. anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    The Japanese American Citizens League (there really is such a thing) wokes us on this point:

    Yellow Fever, Asian Fetishes, and Sexual Violence

    “Hey sexy mama!”

    “Hey baby girl, give us a smile!”

    “Nice rack!”

    Ask any woman, and there is a good chance she has heard some of these phrases at some point in her life. Catcalling is a well-known tatic men who attempt to exert dominance over women often use. When targeting Asian women, the attack can take on an even more direct and vulgar tone.

    “I’ve never been with an Asian before, I need my yellow fever cured…”

    “My last 3 girlfriends were Asian.”

    “I heard Asian pussies are tighter. Can I test yours out?”

    The term “Yellow Fever” has been making the news recently with Whole Foods hosting a restaurant named Yellow Fever in one of its stores. The restaurant owners claim to be reappropriating the term and using it tongue-in-cheek for humor. Nicki Minaj’s music video “Chun-Li” further perpetuates the tired hypersexual Asian woman trope. Yellow fever dehumanizes Asian women and contributes to a culture where sexual violence against Asian women is normalized. This term should not be used for humor or re-appropriated. There can be no self-empowerment in this concept that is so clearly misogynistic.Asians and Asian Americans are often portrayed as being docile, submissive, and subservient. They’re popularly perceived as a people who won’t speak up when wronged and will follow orders without protest. They are often thought to lack agency in a culture where a community (or a man that purchases you as a bride) controls your body and sexuality.

    Conversely there is the stereotype of Asian women as hypersexual and exotic. Rumors of Asian women’s vaginas being slanted or sideways have existed since the 1800s along with the opera, Madame Butterfly. Movies like Sayonara and The World of Suzie Wong reinforced these hypersexual stereotypes in the 1950s. Proliferation of video games, manga, and anime have further promoted the fetishization of Asian culture, and particularly Asian female images. The aforementioned Nicki Minaj video is a perfect example of the imagery from a thirty year old video game that now manifests itself in a video from a current pop star with hypersexual Asian clothing. This affinity for Asian pop culture has spread to human bodies in the form of “yellow fever” for Asian women and “rice queens” for queer men who fetishize Asian men.

    The fetishization of Asian women yields a dangerous combination of sexist and racist stereotypes. Asian women’s bodies are perceived as available for sex without resistance. We are currently experiencing a moment where “Asian” and “Hentai” are entire sections in most pornography sites. Yellow fever” and a self-proclaimed attraction to “Asian Women Only” on dating sites are accepted norms.This fetishization dehumanizes Asian women into old, racist tropes. Men aren’t interested in their partners beyond their Asian woman stereotypes. This dehumanization manifests itself all along the sexual violence continuum — from men who only date Asian women to American soldiers in the Vietnam and Korean wars who used their power to take advantage of local Asian women. We can see these fetishes play out in the numerous studies showing a preference for Asian women on dating apps, and in the high rate of sexual violence committed against Asian women.

    The fact that a guy can proudly announce that he dehumanizes Asian women on a regular basis and face little to no repercussions is an indication of a culture that is willing to excuse sexual violence. “Yellow fever” “Asian fetishes” and “rice queens” are not compliments; they are gross examples of the normalization of violence against Asian women and queer Asian men. In a culture where Asian-specific dating websites, ads for sex tourism in Asia, and other dehumanizing fetishizing platforms exist using seemingly light-hearted monikers like yellow fever serve only to further normalize this behavior and make it acceptable.Sexual violence is preventable, and it starts with people who are willing to create a culture where sexual violence is unacceptable. Asian fetishization adds one more layer to the dynamic of sexual violence against women. The next time you hear someone catcalling, proclaiming their Asian fetish, or demonstrating any other action that leads to sexual violence, be an active bystander and show them that you will not stand for it. Model what respecting people’s personal and emotional boundaries looks like and make safety for all a shared responsibility.

    Jeong needs to woke up!

  130. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Then there was the little incident where the Israelis accidentally attacked an American “technical research” (cough-spy-cough) ship and killed 34 American sailors.

    Do yourself and Jews generally a favor and don’t consider us cattle quite so stupid. The attack on the USS Liberty was no accident. We have the tapes, and thanks to the fundies enough dumb goys know enough Hebrew to understand the words said over the radio.

    Was the Liberty a “spy” ship? Yes, it was. It was in international waters and it had a legal right to be there. We park ships off the coast of Russia, China, and everywhere else and they do it to us. It is legal. No nation has a right to keep anyone in international waters from observing or listening to anything they want, for any reason, any time. (But woe betide them if they violate the limit: if they were then torpedoed they couldn’t say shit.) Israel has no special rights of nonobservance above that of any other nation.

    What Israel did was a bona fide act of war against the United States. It is not a damn bit sorry for doing it, either, although the more sensible Jews regard it (and I hope correctly in the long run) as having been a bad idea because of the consequences of not sinking it incommunicado, which as it happened, happened. I have talked to several Jews who have told me to my face that they wish Israel had succeeded in sinking it and blaming it on the Egyptians. Many honestly believe that it was an accident, but I don’t believe any of them post here.

    Of course, the real evil is not with the Israelis, who made a move, lost, but figured correctly it would blow over with little consequence. The real evil is with the men that led the United States.

  131. @Corvinus

    But would the venerable NYTs ever hire someone like Richard Spencer? I really want you to answer this question, Corvy, and give an explanation of why or why not. It would be very enlightening for the both of us.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  132. MEH 0910 says:
    @Anon

    This is the Anon[425] comment pictured in Matthew Yeglesias’ tweet. Strange that the URL for the other comment was pictured with it.

  133. hhsiii says:
    @Forbes

    The thing is she’s been hired to be head of technology reporting. Her only “expertise” there is her mostly about social media, race and gender, and, ironically, how to make social media discourse less caustic (“Internet of Garbage”). She has no real tech background.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  134. botazefa says:

    “But Cabrera said the idea was “a complete false equivalence,” noting that whiteness isn’t a cultural identity the way being black, Japanese American or Jewish is.“

    If white isn’t a cultural label then is it an immutable perjorative describing people of very light skin?

    True or false?: Grouping people by the shade of their skin and treating them as ‘the other’ is precisely the definition of racism. It’s childish and stupid and so high school.

  135. ic1000 says:
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus, your response to @The Anti-Gnostic was either dishonest or stupid. Since you’ve offered many intelligent comments here, I’ll go with the former. Feel free to clarify, though.

    The issue isn’t that Ms. Jeong loathes and despises white people with the righteous passion of a Bolshevik or Nazi. Nor is it that she broadcasts her bigotry, forfeiting the claim to be a decent person by any moral code worthy of the name. Those notions are 2 to 4 years past their sell-by dates. And Jeong would have to get in line behind hundreds of her more well-known comrades for that PT Barnum moment.

    But you know that.

    And, knowing that, what action did the NYT’s leadership take? “Welcome Aboard!”

    Indeed. She is one of several writers who cater to a specific audience. Liberals and conservatives each have their own distinct flavors, but the opposition insists they all taste the same.

    Corvinus at his dopiest, or most disingenuous. That’s just high-octane whataboutism, your attempt to re-frame the discussion. Racehorse Haynes tactics.

    @The Anti-Gnostic didn’t describe these events as astonishing or unprecedented or inexplicable. He said clarifying.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  136. ic1000 says:

    Some un-unpersoning after the Edit window has closed. Use of “at” sign, bad.
    .
    Corvinus, your response to The Anti-Gnostic was either dishonest or stupid…

    The Anti-Gnostic didn’t describe these events as…

    • Replies: @res
  137. Corvinus says:
    @ic1000

    “Corvinus, your response to was either dishonest or stupid.”

    Actually, my response was a rhetorical punch in the gut to AG. But feel free to disagree.

    “The issue isn’t that Ms. Jeong loathes and despises white people with the righteous passion of a Bolshevik or Nazi.”

    Despises CERTAIN white people. If she hated whitey so much, why on earth does have a Caucasian boyfriend?

    “Nor is it that she broadcasts her bigotry, forfeiting the claim to be a decent person by any moral code worthy of the name.”

    Because she is a brand for the NYT that caters for a particular audience, similar to Alt Right leader Vox Day showcasing Milo’s work, however hypocritical or objectionable.

    “And, knowing that, what action did the NYT’s leadership take? “Welcome Aboard!””

    It is doubling down SJW-style, and in the process getting the Alt Right in a tizzy. Again, hypocritical on their part. But as I said before in a previous post, she is their “house n—-r”.

    “Corvinus at his dopiest, or most disingenuous. That’s just high-octane whataboutism, your attempt to re-frame the discussion. Racehorse Haynes tactics.”

    What I said was absolutely true. The Alt Right and the SJWs desperately paint their opposition as having a unified front, as being on board with nearly everything that comes out of their mouth. In reality, conservatives and liberals are divided amongst themselves. But accounting for ideological nuance requires being honest and takes much work. Really surprised you are not picking up on something so elementary here.

    “didn’t describe these events as astonishing or unprecedented or inexplicable. He said clarifying.”

    I never used those words, so that would be a strawman on your part.

  138. res says:
    @ic1000

    If you want an @ just type ‘& #64;’ without the space or quotes.

    This might be useful: https://www.ascii.cl/htmlcodes.htm

    P.S. There are inconsistencies between comment preview and publish for special characters. I’m not sure if there is an easy way to characterize that behavior, but it would help to do so if it can’t be fixed. It would also help to be able to see a preview while editing comments.

  139. Anonymous[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Sort of. No gas chambers yet, but Jews were being shot in large numbers in Russia. Maybe if the U.S. had stayed out, the killing would have been restricted to Russia. Maybe.

  140. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Please collect your comments here and post them onto a blog someplace, so that we may easily consult them.

  141. @The Anti-Gnostic

    Next up, WaPo explains how to put lime in coconut

    • LOL: The Anti-Gnostic
  142. Forbes says:
    @hhsiii

    Agreed. She’s an internet scribbler without any notoriety, e.g. no technical insight, critical analysis, or perceptive judgment that anyone has pointed out that makes her exceptional. She’s a diversity hire with the correct opinions.

  143. dwb says:
    @Forbes

    Forbes

    yes; she’s an empty suit, which is perfect. It goes with her empty head and empty values.

    But I think it’s actually a bit worse than that. More cynical.

    Organs like the NYT of course hire people like Jeong (or, if you think back a bit, like Jayson Blair, who in a similar way was jumped-up to editor at 27 despite having, frankly, no CV and no credentials to recommend him for such a position) as ethnic window-dressing.

    That is neither new nor a surprise.

    But what they’ve done here is ridiculously transparent. Trump is right that the Times (and others) are haemorrhaging money and seeing their relevance pour out of their decaying bodies. So, what do they do? They hire some snarky, semi-literate 30 year old “tech writer” (who is, honestly, neither really “tech” savvy nor a writer) to make things, I dunno, more “edgy”. Writing things like “this is why so many things suck” or “shit posting” masquerades as insight at the Times these days.

    They jump her up, and I guess, hope that she will convince other 30 year old nitwits to go beyond the paywall to read stories and op-eds in language that they understand and about topics that they are comfortable with.

    They deserve Sarah Jeong, and she them.

  144. @Cloudswrest

    Ah, a classical (economics) allusion – no wonder it was over my head.

  145. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan

    It’s good for these various minorities to understand that they’re being used as weapons in the private battles of people who do not have their best interests at heart.

    It would also be good if angry whites would desist from making blanket attacks on Koreans and Asians over this. They’re also being played and don’t realise it.

  146. MBlanc46 says:
    @Colin Wright

    Race war is the only chance that whites have to regain control of their country.

  147. dfordoom says: • Website

    whiteness isn’t a cultural identity the way being black, Japanese American or Jewish is.

    Which of course is perfectly true. A cultural identity comes from a shared history and a shared culture. The Japanese have that. Jews have that. American blacks have that.

    White people don’t have it. We have lots of different histories and cultures. How could a Latvian, a Portuguese and a Dutchman have a cultural identity? It just isn’t possible.

    Also whites are divided by class to a much greater extent than any other racial group. And white class hatreds are more virulent than any racial hatreds. You think a merchant banker who works in the City of London is ever going to feel racial solidarity with a manual labourer from Birmingham? It’s not going to happen. Elite whites hate poor whites more than any racial group hates any other racial group. And increasingly that hatred is returned by poor whites.

    Forget race war. The conflict most likely to turn violent, and turn violent in a particularly brutal way, is white-on-white class warfare.

    White identity is an absurd fantasy. White have no common interests. No reason to feel the slightest loyalty to each other.

    White ethnic identities might have some chance but you’re still going to have the class problem.

  148. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Simple Psuedonym

    The history of the English speaking peoples. – Churchill

    Churchill’s concept of the English speaking peoples was pure fantasy, intended to make the British feel better about having become a third-rate power and an American lapdog.

    There’s no such thing as the English speaking peoples.

  149. dfordoom says: • Website
    @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    Sane people have no trouble recognizing that racism of whites against Korean chicks in America is potentially more harmful than the opposite, because whites are more numerous and more powerful. Sane people also have no problem recognizing that ineffective racism is still racism.

    Unfortunately anyone under the age of 35 or so has been so thoroughly indoctrinated by the education system that they do believe all this crazy PC stuff. They believe every word of it. The vast majority have never actually been exposed to any dissenting views. If they’re told that only white people can be racist the believe it. They believe it because they’re literally not capable of believing anything other than the party line that they’ve been fed.

    A member of my family has kids who have been attending a Catholic high school. You couldn’t hope to meet more thoroughly indoctrinated children. They believe every single word their teachers have told them. They are perfect politically correct zombies.

    The problem is that many of us who are older, Gen X and Boomers, simply have no conception of how Orwellian the education system has become.

    If there is hope, it does not lie in the Millennials or Gen Z.

  150. Corvinus says:
    @Paul Yarbles

    “But would the venerable NYTs ever hire someone like Richard Spencer? I really want you to answer this question, Corvy, and give an explanation of why or why not. It would be very enlightening for the both of us.”

    Absolutely, the NYT ought hire someone like Spencer. And, no, I am no trolling here, nor being sarcastic. Give him or her the platform. Let the readers decide. Just like Fox News ought to hire someone like Taichi Coates, or whatever is his first name. Let him speak. The problem is that the NYT and Fox News are generally echo chambers for their audience, and have sponsors who would not be particularly happy that a “known enemy” was hired to serve up “Fake News”. And why would Spencer and Coates even want to subject themselves to the intense ridicule they would inevitably receive through their employment of people they utterly distrust.

    Remember “Cross Fire” from a long time ago? That was a good show. Why? Because there was passionate discourse. But today it’s about clickbait, access journalism, and Pavlovian news packaging. As I stated before, it’s much easier to make generalizations like the Left = white people are racist and the Right = Muslims are terrorists since little thinking on the matter is required.

  151. rich dad says:

    Let’s look at some historical context, then.

    109,000 ebil racist white males died in the Pacific in part to free Jeong’s country from the Japanese

    Another 53,000 hate-filled bigots died in the Korean war to free her country from the Communists.

    More American white men have died securing the independence of her home country than our own, and she is still free to slander us in one of the biggest newpapers in the world.

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