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  1. El Dato says:

    Missing a good occasion to keep shtum, AOC tweets about detecting Trumpian “targeted atrocious antisemitism” in a phrase having incoherent grammatical structure. Apparently this is going on while the MSM is ignoring the accelerating transformation from dogwhistling to shoahing due to partisanship (or so I understand):

    “I will take one Atrocious Antisemitism please. Shaken, not stirred”.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Hail
    , @Prester John
  2. The only Chet I’ve ever known was a black guy from Oklahoma. He told us his dad was very dark-skinned but had baby-blue eyes.

    (I did work with a white Chet, too, but that was based on his surname, so it doesn’t count.)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Hail
  3. @Reg Cæsar

    1970s Chicago Bulls basketball star Chet the Jet Walker is black:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chet_Walker

    I suspect “Chip” is the name they were going for as ultra-white, but they just missed.

    When I would sneak on to north shore Chicago country club golf courses like Bob-O-Link to check out the golf architecture, my cover story was that I had been invited by my uncle Chip Anderson, because I figured that was the most plausible sounding yet confusing nickname. There was probably a member named Anderson, but was his nickname Chip? Is Chip short for Charles or could it be another Anderson? This could well paralyze a rent-a-cop.

    In contrast, Chet, short for Chester, is kind of an old-time black-sounding name. For example, the semi-official black public golf course in South-Central Los Angeles is Chester Washington Golf Course:

    https://www.americangolf.com/public-courses/los-angeles/chester-washington-golf-course?cid=googlemap&kw=chester%20washington%20golf&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoebsBRCHARIsAC3JP0KscFIfblmtYrcao6eDodaaXxUtBjzRm_syJTD8uP700G-6W3XwJrUaAiDMEALw_wcB

  4. “Goodnight, Chip.”

    “Goodnight, David.”

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  5. The Latino joke at 3:40 is funny, but the rest, like all the sketches I see from SNL (a show I haven’t watched in 40 years) is not funny to me. The concept is fine, I see what they’re trying to do with it, but it doesn’t make me laugh. The Latino joke works because it’s the one part of the sketch that’s not too heavy-handed.

    I had a black friend when I was in my 20s. We’d be hanging out and watching to local news and when the announcer would say something like, “Coming up next: 85-year-old woman suffers a broken back after she was pushed down stairs and robbed of $3. Police are looking for the suspect,” my friend would mutter, “Please don’t let him be black, please don’t let him be black.”

  6. Altai says:

    OT:

    Tanning booths seem to be more common in LGBT neighbourhoods, are gay men being targetted? Clearly straight men would use them just as often and most importantly, develop melanoma at comparable rates, if they were evenly distributed.

  7. El Dato says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    “Please don’t let him be black, please don’t let him be black.”

    Why?

    Because of the subsequent increase in jokes or the increase in lynching?

  8. @Steve Sailer

    Bill Cosby’s character in one of his shows was Chet Kincaid.

  9. El Dato says:
    @Altai

    Thus the secular news cycle grinds through this Age of high-Carbon Iron.

    From 2010:

    Never Joke About Stuff Where Regulators Might Overhear You

    According to today’s New York Post exposé on indoor tanning, salon employees are not properly warning customers that tanning increases their risk of cancer, nor are they collecting signed parental permission forms from everyone under 18, as mandated by New York State law.

    Or maybe we are looking at the noosification of tanning lamps? It could get interesting.

  10. bomag says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Police are looking for the suspect,” my friend would mutter, “Please don’t let him be black, please don’t let him be black.”

    Reality is that Black crime is tremendously high, but people know that the news media can shape the narrative otherwise; thus the scramble for the megaphone, which the bad guys now possess.

    • Replies: @Bugg
  11. I’ll bet this sketch was written by a black cast member. I doubt a contemporary SNL whitey would have the guts to even suggest these thoughts enter his mind.

  12. Mungerite says:

    Man, nail, meet head.

    NYT starting to set up world war P:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/fashion/weddings/a-look-at-open-marriage-weddings.html

    Daley South had six bridesmaids in her 2016 wedding to Logan South; one of them was her husband’s girlfriend.

    The Souths are in an open and polyamorous relationship and have been since they started dating seven years ago. “We were actually all dating at first,” Ms. South said of her bridesmaid, Ilona Westenra. “I really enjoyed having her be a part of our big day.”

    People who choose to be in non-monogamous relationships are often perceived as anti-commitment, said Cathy Keen, 39, the community manager of alternative dating app Feeld and who is one-third of her relationship.

    But that’s just wrong, said Ms. Keen, who was also asked “what the point was” when she married her non-monogamous partner. “The thing I think a lot of people presume about a relationship that’s not traditional, monogamous or heteronormative is that commitment is not valued. It’s based upon sex and being able to move quickly, and that’s just wrong,” she said.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    , @Thea
    , @Autochthon
  13. @Altai

    Tanning salons in the UK are generally thought of as a lower-class sort of thing, and they are in areas where chicken shops and nail bars may be found. Are they really a gay thing?

    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
  14. Hhsiii says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, I immediately thought of Chet Walker and told my wife they got that wrong. Maybe they were going for Chad.

    Those were good not great Bulls teams. Always a tough out for the Knicks in the playoffs. Chet Walker, Bob Love, Norm Van Lier, Jerry Sloan and Tom Boerwinkel.

    He was on the great ‘67 76ers team, but I’m too young to have seen them.

    • Replies: @Marty
    , @Marty
  15. Flip says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Chet/Chester is pretty common among Polish guys in Chicago.

    • Replies: @Corn
  16. Flip says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Chip is often used for a Jr. and Trip for a III.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    , @ScarletNumber
  17. Logan says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Chet (Chester Burton) Atkins?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  18. In most Michigan markets, the media reached agreements with the NAACP about 15 years ago. They are not allowed to say the race of suspects or accused, unless they are at large and their crime is considered specially dangerous.

    The more honest reporters started including color photos or videos. However, now most people just assume a criminal is Black. Which, I hope, wasn’t the NAACP’s intention when they made the agreements

    Side note: Royal Oak is a suburb close to Detroit which is enjoying a rebirth as a trendy city. They had bomb threats against many of their churches this week. The cops and FBI arrested a man, and the media is hiding his identity. The problem is now no one knows if they are hiding it because of his race, or if he is Muslim, or if he is connected to someone important.

  19. Rich says:

    Yeah, on SNL it’s 3-3 but blacks still only represent 13% of the American population, so they’re still batting above their average, though math is hard and racist so the writers at that show didn’t get it. (Unless they did, which would make it really funny).

    And who’s the White dude in the red dress?

    • Replies: @D.M. Wayne
  20. The fact that SNL made a skit about race and crime is an….interesting development.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  21. Charon says:

    From the Wall Street Journal. Coast to coast, police departments have been explicitly instructed to curtail enforcement against black males. Now the arrest rates are plummeting, and the “experts are flummoxed.”

    Arrests for Low-Level Crimes Are Plummeting, and the Experts Are Flummoxed

    By Jacob Gershman
    Oct. 6, 2019 5:30 am ET

    Major police departments around the country are arresting fewer people for minor crimes, according to a growing body of criminal justice data.

    New statistical studies show a deep, yearslong decline in misdemeanor cases, with arrests of young black men falling dramatically.

  22. @Altai

    But if tanning beds transmitted HIV they’d be fine.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  23. @Steve Sailer

    Chet Lemon 70’s outfielder for the Tigers likewise. It’s funny, looking at Baseball Reference, I see there were 13 Chets, all White, pre 1960 but only one, the aforementioned Lemon, after that. I think White Chets were kind of common in earlier times. The Hardy Boys had a White sidekick Chet Morton.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  24. “Latino walks into a bar…

    Nobody cares.”

    Rimshot please.

  25. SNL still has it. Very funny skit. Touchy racial political humor, SNL does it well. Even grouchy Sailer liked it. The skit probably appeals across the political spectrum.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  26. The best part comes at 4:20 when the weather guy says “we’re tied up 3 to 3” , and then the newscasters explain to him about “per capita” and “being 13% of the overall population” and so”it’s not really a tie game”….oh wait, that didn’t happen.

  27. Alfa158 says:
    @Altai

    Frankly I had no idea any men used tanning booths except for celebrities and politicians who have to look good on camera. I’ve never met a regular man who has used one. Normal guys don’t care if we look tan.

  28. El Dato says:
    @Alfa158

    Tanning booths know that, that’s why they are targeting gays.

    “In Trumps America, tanning booth is looking for YOU!”

  29. Kronos says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Was he a middle class black? I’m sure middle-to-upper class blacks are sometimes the most anxious about black underclass crime. Especially if they talk and act white. Underclass black crime poses a physical danger to them while placing increased social strains with whites.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  30. Bugg says:
    @bomag

    For roughly 12% of the US population, blacks literally punch way above their weight when it comes to committing violent crime. Heather McDonald can and does figuratively beat you over the head with those stats all the time. Further reality is newspapers and local TV NEVER mention a suspect’s race. We instead simply know he’s a young man between 5’10” and 6’1″, about 20 years of age and roughly 170 pounds. Race in such circumstances is not mentioned.

    And as only 12%, why are black so overrepresented in media and entertainment. Have a relative in a performing arts program. Something of an issue; way fewer blacks in such programs, but way more roles. In fact Broadway and movies go waaaayyyy out of their way to have black oriented movies, shows and performers. No one begrudges Chappelle or Prince or any number of talented performers, but down market, not so much. And further whites cannot get roles that are made for blacks, but vice versa, fine and dandy. Good news a lot of otherwise woke white performers are noticing and they aren’t happy.

    Also, Jewish actors are ridiculously overrepresented. One show, I stopped watching because of this-

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0834989/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm#overview

    The patriarch of this HBO show, “Succession”, is Brian Cox, some sort of Brit/Irish/Scot. Stopped watching to find out what his ethnicity is in the show, but Cox was born in Ireland and is a veteran for British theater and movies(also, “Supertroopers” and the first Hannibal Lector on film, but I digress). But we are supposed to believe he birthed a neurotic NY Jew, played by Jeremy Strong. Completely takes you out of the show when you think of it.

    • Replies: @Alden
  31. Spud Boy says:

    Is that thing in the red dress a Tranny? It has an awfully deep voice.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @AnonAnon
  32. Dr. Dre says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Chip is short for “chip off the old block”; Skip can be used in this way, too, if someone’s name has II after it. In other words, that person is not a “Junior” but named for say, his uncle. Robert Mueller III was called “Bobby Three Sticks” at St. Paul’s, his posh boarding school. Two black men we know and enjoy seeing are Kenneth and Delontay. Both experts in their professions. Kenneth is the older of the two. I knew a Chet — his real name was Chester. His father was a Don Draper ad man in NY.

  33. @Altai

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that amyl nitrite popper dealers also target gays. Gays, like all of the Left’s special friends, have to relinquish agency for totemic status. Only deplorable straight White males have agency.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  34. JimB says:

    Americans just aren’t all that interested in Latinos.

    Which is why they have been the perfect Trojan race to replace voiceless white middle Americans. You don’t notice them slowly oiling their way into your community until all of the sudden the public school’s drama, sports, and music programs has have been dropped for ESL.

    • Replies: @James J. O'Meara
  35. Marty says:
    @Hhsiii

    The Walker-Van Lier Bulls played in the Western Conference.

  36. Marty says:
    @Hhsiii

    The Walker-Van Lier Bulls played in the Western Conference.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
  37. SFG says:
    @El Dato

    The Forward has an earlier article about how calling Schiff ‘shifty’ played into antisemitic stereotypes. Maybe that’s where AOC got the idea from.

    I mean, I guess, but Nadler and Schiff are also the two guys going after him in Congress, so of course he is going to attack them. And AOC isn’t even Jewish.

  38. The few times a year I am in the states, I see stories that refer to “a man” or “teens” as perpetrators. Rarely do I hear names, and only occasionally pictures. This seems more like a joke for the 1980s.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  39. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Should have worked the really funny angle into it somehow. The SWPL guy who is the most impassioned for it to be the whites doing all the infamous deeds. But I guess that was a bridge too far.

  40. Not Raul says:

    “We don’t need that one.”

  41. peterike says:

    If only our actual news media were as forthright and honest as that skit. That’s the real joke.

  42. @Alfa158

    “Normal guys don’t care if we look tan.”

    So, “celebrities and politicians” aren’t normal? Yeah, I know, they’re all freaks and weirdos. But what about the ones you like? Arnie? Orange Man? If looking tan isn’t “normal” why would people in the public eye try to look that way? Do you see them dressed as clowns or hobos?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  43. Forbes says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    I was assaulted on Broadway in front of Trinity Church (Wall St.) in 1990. The first stranger to come upon me was a black man who asked, “Were they black?” After I nodded yes, he shook is headed and mumbled “assholes” under his breath.

  44. @JimB

    “You don’t notice them slowly oiling their way into your community”

    “You come out to this clean country with your oily hair and silk suits” Sen. Geahry, Godfather II

    • Replies: @JimB
  45. Forbes says:
    @Flip

    The two I’ve known as “Chip” were both a III.

    • Agree: Father O'Hara
  46. @Steve Sailer

    Is Chip short for Charles or could it be another Anderson?

    I think Chip may be an alternative to “Junior”, “II”, “III”, etc., as Bud often is in more humble communities.

    Or for some unweildy forename. My cousin married a Chip. He’s Carlton.

    Anderson could be Scottish, English, or Scandinavian. Anglicizing Swedish patronymics only needs to change a letter of two, so most who had them did. Anderson is in the top three surnames here in Upper Midwest states. It’s so common here it’s not posh, it’s “anonymous”.

    I recently learned that our Ed Nortonesque neighbor to the Long Island house we owned but rarely occupied, one Andy Anderson, was born Anders. Jösses!

    Actual research a few years ago revealed that DeShawn is the blackest/least white name, and Jake the whitest/least black. ( Don’t tell Jake Shimabukuro.) I know a mixed-race DeShawn who goes by Sean among his white relatives.

  47. Forbes says:
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    Considering how typically unfunny it was is certainly consistent for SNL.

  48. nurdle says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    That’s exactly the problem with SNL now. The jokes come wrapped around a thrown brick so that even people six drinks in can’t miss them.

    Ferrel as Robert Urich selling rat poison, that was funny:

  49. Western says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Chet Coppock was a sportscaster in Chicago.

  50. @The Alarmist

    Whenever you see that, just assume the perpetrators are Black. Furthermore, understand that you can multiply that by one-hundred.

  51. @Steve Sailer

    In contrast, Chet, short for Chester, is kind of an old-time black-sounding name. For example, the semi-official black public golf course in South-Central Los Angeles is Chester Washington Golf Course:

    Chester is Roman for camp and George Washington had a Roman nose.

  52. Jack D says:

    It’s not that Latinos are uninteresting, it’s that the Left sees everything in blackety-black terms so Latinos (Asians, etc.) are an unwelcome distraction – can we get back to talking about black people and their hair please?

    And how come the guy running the Ponzi scheme doesn’t have a Jewish name?

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Reg Cæsar
  53. Jack D says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    The problem with every SNL sketch I’ve seen in the last 30 years (which is not many) is that they take a 1 joke gage and stretch it out to a 5 minute sketch. So here you have the valid basis for comedy that black people cringe when they see other blacks being depicted as criminals. The first impact of the skit where the black people shout out with joy when they find out that the guy holding up a string of gas stations is white gets a deserved laugh but we are only 38 seconds into the sketch at this point and they have to milk it for another 4 full minutes. Both the writing AND the talent is not good enough to do this and still have it be funny to the end. After they have in effect done the same joke over and over 5 or 6 times, the whole thing becomes boring and cringe worthy – the essence of comedy is surprise and there’s no surprise left.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk, Pat Kittle
  54. Jack D says:
    @kaganovitch

    I used to think this but in the opioid epidemic (lawsuits) working class whites are also said to lack agency. Apparently members of the Sackler family came to the homes of working class whites each night and forced Oxycontin down their throats until they were hopelessly addicted.

    Generally speaking, in the legal system, agency is known as “fault” and if the plaintiff is wholly or partly at fault, then the damages due from the defendant are reduced or eliminated, so plaintiffs always have to be depicted as entirely lacking in agency/fault.

  55. @Spud Boy

    It also looks like one, or possibly the Wicked Witch Of The West. I’ve not seen a chin like that since the late soccer player, pundit and manager Jimmy Hill died, only he was a nice bloke.

  56. @Steve Sailer

    1970s Chicago Bulls basketball star Chet the Jet Walker is black:

    The black Chet I mentioned said he was named Chester after a character in Gunsmoke. Of course, everyone in the room yelled, “No, it was Festus!”

    This was 1993-4, before widespread Internet access, but on my next visit to the university library, I came across a huge reference book of television characters.

    And indeed, early Gunsmoke episodes had a Chester Goode.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    , @MBlanc46
  57. @Kronos

    He was a very conservative black. He and I were into guns and went shooting together regularly. He was embarrassed to see the worst stereotypes of black behavior constantly validated.

  58. @Jack D

    Generally speaking, in the legal system, agency is known as “fault”…

    Yes, and this fact goes a long way in explaining why we White people are always at fault. Agency requres a certain amount of, oh, you know, something like intelligence, or perhaps initiative or creativity, or something else high-human.

    Luke 12:48 New King James Version

    But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    , @Jack D
  59. @Jack D

    That’s a great analysis. There’s a video on YouTube that explains why “The Simpsons” stopped being funny. It showed how in the early years, a complex gag would be built up and go in several directions before being paid off, while in late years it just turned into the set-up/punchline format of the typical not-very-funny sitcom.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Precious
  60. Mr. Anon says:
    @Massimo Heitor

    SNL still has it. Very funny skit. Touchy racial political humor, SNL does it well.

    And you’d only have to sit through 90 minutes of excrutiatingly unfunny sketches and two bad musical sets to see it.

    Actually it wasn’t even that funny.

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor
  61. @kaganovitch

    Chester E Lemon, a member of the great 1984 Detroit Tigers!

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  62. Mr. Anon says:
    @Alfa158

    Frankly I had no idea any men used tanning booths except for celebrities and politicians who have to look good on camera. I’ve never met a regular man who has used one. Normal guys don’t care if we look tan.

    It’s gotten some traction with regular guys because of the Men’s Health Movement. In limited amounts, it’s seen as a good way to boost your vitamin D in the winter.

  63. SFG says:
    @Jack D

    Because the stereotypes are true, and our extremely distant relatives actually do own SNL.

    Though, of course, they actually built these entertainment edifices from the ground up in many cases, so if you’re an old-school con they earned it.

  64. @Jack D

    Generally agree but I’d add that opioids are incredibly addictive and the fact most people’s initial exposure to them is via a doctor’s prescription does reduce the plaintiff/victim/addicted person/whatever blame somewhat (though not to zero). Many if not most people (perhaps naively) assume that if a doctor is prescribing something to them, its not going to lead to them living on a steam grate shooting heroin.

    At this point, most people’s reaction to being prescribed an opioid should be to punch their doctor in the face.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Autochthon
  65. @Jack D

    And how come the guy running the Ponzi scheme doesn’t have a Jewish name?

    He was from fallen gentry. His name translates as Charles Peter John William Tybalt Ponzi.

    He was going for the look later perfected by Gay Talese and Tom Wolfe.

    • Replies: @SFG
  66. @Altai

    The sun has been “targeting” melanin-deficient white people with its deadly UV rays for eons. Where’s our reparations for that.

  67. Lot says:
    @Alfa158

    “Frankly I had no idea any men used tanning booths except for celebrities and politicians who have to look good on camera.”

    Secret agents whose cover story is a vacation in Florida when really they are executing a hit in Vancouver.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  68. @Harry Baldwin

    I remember how the started on one them and then it spilled merrily into a host of others. The take on soccer was golden:

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  69. Daniel H says:

    Mexican/Latino jokes are coming in fast and furious this morning. Even CNBC is feeling the levity.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/25/latinos-may-be-the-key-to-future-us-economic-growth-study-argues.html

  70. Daniel H says:
    @Mungerite

    I encourage this trend among NY Times readers, only among NY Times readers.

  71. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    I used to think this but in the opioid epidemic (lawsuits) working class whites are also said to lack agency. Apparently members of the Sackler family came to the homes of working class whites each night and forced Oxycontin down their throats until they were hopelessly addicted.

    No, they just purposefully and systematically understated (or lied about) Oxy’s propensity to cause addiction.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/watch-richard-sackler-deny-his-familys-role-in-the-opioid-crisis

    https://www.statnews.com/2019/02/22/a-secretive-billionaires-role-in-promoting-oxycontin-emerges-in-new-documents/

    They even want to make money on both ends – getting into the addiction treatment business:

    https://www.statnews.com/2019/01/30/purdue-pharma-oxycontin-maker-explored-addiction-treatment/

  72. Peterike says:
    @Jack D

    “Apparently members of the Sackler family came to the homes of working class whites each night and forced Oxycontin down their throats until they were hopelessly addicted.”

    Nice straw man to avoid the Sacklers very real — and very deliberate — guilt in this matter. But then your Mr Know It All act seems to always have noticeable lacunae when a certain ethnic group is involved.

  73. @Harry Baldwin

    my friend would mutter, “Please don’t let him be black, please don’t let him be black.”

    And when something blows up, it’s “Please tell us he’s not named Mohammed!”

  74. Lot says:
    @Jack D

    The Sacklers and other bad actors got approval to sell very strong opioids for limited circumstances, typically “breakthrough” pain for cancer patients when normal opioids lose their power. They then promoted them to doctors for off label use. So they are bad actors and deserve to see their company’s bankruptcy, maybe worse.

    Hard to say what their overall responsibility is however, they partly did create a demand, but they also fed a preexisting one that would have been supplied by others. To the extent pill mills kept addicts off of injecting heroin, they reduced OD and HIV deaths.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Alden
  75. Daniel H says:

    “Vibrant” latino street scene. From the Barrons/CNBc story touting Latino 21st century economic hegemony.

    Can’t you just feel the pulsating economic vibrancy! I know that there is a Musk/Bezos/Thiel in their somewhere.

    https://scontent.flas1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t45.1600-4/cp0/q90/spS444/c29.0.1221.640a/s526x296/71693007_23843855267590753_5454825907229294592_n.png.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQkUlI8Ze2PHa405ruVaDZOi3SNFKl3lAfwdGA1UyzBeKZRt8svyBNrHmyDT08KVfHc&_nc_ht=scontent.flas1-1.fna&oh=52c24969cc97d7e34d5e354acec727ca&oe=5E312E34

  76. MattW says:

    In real life 1350 makes this game too lopsided

  77. SFG says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Of course, he was going for ‘fashionable’, Talese and Wolfe were going for ‘retro’.

  78. SFG says:
    @Lot

    I kinda feel like the Sacklers got scapegoated for doing what every other drug company does–identify demand and market aggressively to it.

    There’s also the real problem that a lot of people do have chronic pain and the only thing stronger than Tylenol, Motrin, etc. is opioids, so you’re either undertreating pain or addicting people, and the pendulum is always going back and forth.

    Of course, I’m also against direct-to-consumer advertising because patients don’t know better, so it’s more ‘everyone else should be in jail too’ rather than ‘let the Sacklers off’.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  79. @Buzz Mohawk

    Luke 12:48 New King James Version

    But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.

    I didn’t realize the “soft bigotry of low expectations” is actually a biblical injunction.

  80. @SFG

    I kinda feel like the Sacklers got scapegoated for doing what every other drug company does–identify demand and market aggressively to it.

    There is plenty of fault to go around. But I think you are right.

    It would be very different if a drug company hid a secret side effect of a newly developed product. But *everybody* always knew that opioids are *hugely* addictive. That really falls into the “no duh” category.

    Any doctor who claimed he didn’t know this when he prescribed is properly liable for malpractice. Doctors probably should bear the brunt of any allocation of fault.

    Indeed, what’s the point of giving doctors their incredibly valuable monopoly as gatekeepers for drug access if they just claim to be helpless pawns of commercial marketing.

    But our society now runs on the principle of only “punching up” until you find a suitably elite villain. So evil Big Pharma is a very convenient place for the buck to stop when something goes wrong. (Plus they are the easiest source of big money payouts, so there’s always that.)

  81. @Jack D

    Generally speaking, in the legal system, agency is known as “fault” and if the plaintiff is wholly or partly at fault, then the damages due from the defendant are reduced or eliminated, so plaintiffs always have to be depicted as entirely lacking in agency/fault.

    This isn’t litigation. This is an academic study from Stanford U.

    Co-author Dr. Eleni Linos, professor of dermatology and epidemiology at Stanford University, told Newsweek: “This is a big deal, because LGBT communities already experience health disparities related to stigma and discrimination. In addition, gay men have disproportionately higher rates of skin cancer. Our study is the first to show that indoor tanning⁠—a known carcinogen—is more readily available in neighborhoods with more gay men.Linos acknowledged that her team only looked at major U.S. cities so it’s unclear if the same pattern is seen worldwide.

    She added that it’s unclear if the tanning industry is deliberately targeting these communities, but said, “It’s definitely something I am very worried about.”

    Instead of saying that it’s just another instance of Sutton’s Law ,i.e. gays are less concerned about the long run due to overwhelming obsession with physical attractiveness and hedonistic time preference, her go-to explanation is a conspiracy by Big Tanning ‘deliberately targeting these communities’.

  82. AnonAnon says:
    @Spud Boy

    Is that thing in the red dress a Tranny? It has an awfully deep voice.

    I spent the entire [extremely lame] video trying to figure that out and vote yes, it’s a tranny. As for actually funny SNL skits, this one from last week was pretty good, and it skewered the Dems:

  83. jon says:
    @Steve Sailer

    If we are going to mention famous blacks named Chester/Chet, we shouldn’t leave out Chester Turner. He killed over a hundred women in Los Angeles during the 1980′ and 1990’s.

    https://www.ranker.com/list/black-serial-killers/ranker-crime

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  84. Anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:

    Ding ding ding.

    The reason the Jewish media likes to use “chip” as a triggering wasp name is because it’s a reference to being a II or III as in “chip off the old block.”

    Jews are especially obsessed with names like this (including “Trip” and “skip”) because they do not do successive names.

    This is why the prototypical evil WASP characters are called “Billingsley Worthington IV”.

    because Jews use neither surnames-as-first-names nor juniors, thirds, etc.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    , @Reg Cæsar
  85. Anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:

    Here’s the problem and solution:

    If you name your character “Adam Clayton” that’s obviously a white or black and not Jewish man.

    But if people go around calling him “Adam” that obviously could be a Jewish first name.

    But if you name your character “Clayton Thurston Lowell Lodge III aka ‘Trip’” at no point in your book or movie can someone call him anything that’s not completely goyishe

  86. anon[223] • Disclaimer says:

    Arthur Sackler did promotional work that helped Valium become the first $100 million dollar drug back in the 1980’s. The Sackler family has been involved in drug pushing for a long time.

    Purdue Pharma invented a time-release version of oxycodone in 1996. Oxycontin was widely touted as having a low risk of addiction. Except that it wore off a bit sooner in many people than claimed, leading to pain management issues. Oxy has been reformulated so it’s more difficult to crush / snort as a result. But a lot of heroin addicts in the US started off with medically prescribed oxy.

    We won’t go into the pill mills that shopped incredible amounts of oxy all across flyover, but it’s odd how many of them are run by paperwork Americans.

    There are still larger issues. Pain management has gone around a circle from undermedication to overmedication. Direct advertising to people “ask your doctor about” is borderline at best. “Disability” is a scam as well, with every major city featuring lawyers who specialize in appealing cases – “Get your disability! Shyster & Crooked will see to it!’. There’s no easy answer to these things. Pain is a signal that is hard to ignore. So is despair.

    Larger still, the de-industrialization of parts of the US left some people with few options. People in despair will turn to drugs. Americans were dying of OD’s on heroin, fentanyl, oxy for 15 years or more before it was noticed, because unlike the crack crisis of the 1990’s where humans were dying, opoid deaths were mere wypipo and not worth really caring about.

    Cultural trivia: when Rosanne Barr was convicted of crimethink her character was written out of the TV show via fentanyl overdose. That’s just one example of what elite Hollywood writers think of flyover peasants like me and many other heritage Americans. Pure contempt.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  87. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Screencapped, the whole issue is that this substance was illegal because it was scientifically known to be chemically addictive, and lobbying by this specific family got it legal and created the entirely predictable crisis, and furthermore once reports of addiction started rolling in the family’s response was to prevent medical assistance.
    This is pretty much the one thing in our law-scam landscape where law-scammers are not just begging to be dumped into the sea and actually doing something like their jobs, and its basis is scientifically objective, so yeah good time to make a dumb redneck joke.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  88. @Jack D

    Apparently members of the Sackler family came to the homes of working class whites each night and forced Oxycontin down their throats until they were hopelessly addicted.

    Downscale whites will have one of two attitudes toward doctors– they’re always right, or they’re always wrong. Abuse of the first in some just intensifies the second in their neighbors.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  89. @YetAnotherAnon

    No, they’re not really a thing. Gays care about whether you have muscles or not, being tanned is kind of irrelevant. Tanning salons are mostly used by lower class white girls for obvious pigmentation reasons.

    • Replies: @keypusher
  90. @Peterike

    Mike Enoch over on the TDS podcast at the therightstuff.biz pointed out the “it’s your own fault for trusting us, you should know by now what we are actually like” argument form.

    I notice it from them ALL the time now. Of course… if you DON’T trust them you’re a dreadful antisemite who needs to be punished for THAT. Funny how that works.

  91. Alfa158 says:
    @James J. O'Meara

    Even the ones I like aren’t normal. Run of the mill normal people don’t achieve great things. Our job as normies is to run the machinery of society, and spin the genetic roulette wheel that occasionally produces the exceptional people who drive change and progress.
    LOOKING tan is pretty normal and as my pseudonym suggests I usually look tan as a matter of course. TRYING to look tan is unusual fir men.
    I don’t know any guy who goes to tanning salons in the pursuit of looking tanned.

  92. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    No, in the civil litigation system, agency requires a certain amount of something called cash. It’s a waste of time to ascribe agency to someone who doesn’t have any cash so that they can pay for their evildoing.

  93. Alfa158 says:
    @Lot

    Oh, right. Thanks, somehow I forgot that one.

  94. @Flip

    Trey is a much more popular nickname for III.

    Trey Wingo of ESPN is really Hal Wingo III. His father Hal Wingo Jr might not be famous by name, but appears in a very famous picture.

  95. @Anonymous

    because Jews use neither surnames-as-first-names nor juniors, thirds, etc.

    This is one way in which Jews are superior to WASP’s. The whole point of names is to distinguish people from each other.

  96. @Jack D

    You understand it’s a 90-minute show, right? They have to fill it some how.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @J.Ross
  97. @Ron Mexico

    Yes, one of the great teams of my lifetime. They ran away with the AL East in May. Finished like 20 games ahead of anyone else in the AL. Trammell , Gibson, Parrish and Lemon and a good bench.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  98. @J.Ross

    Well, he was no Ric Ocesek, but … /sarc.

  99. Neuday says:
    @Alfa158

    In my early 20s, back in the early 80’s, I used to tan during the Spring so I didn’t burn in the Summer. Also, the girls who worked in tanning salons were invariably hot, one of whom became my girlfriend, and, having tanning in common, we occasionally visited a secluded nude beach near Santa Cruz. I have no regrets about tanning.

  100. Here are some interesting Latinx, courtesy of TXStreetfights TV:

    Impressive display from the 2 homies in the purple polo shirt and pink jorts that manage to fend off a group of 7 that are trying to mess up their business. Those 7 fellows need to turn in their man cards, stat.

  101. @kaganovitch

    The 1984 Tigers are one of the all-time great baseball teams.

    Don’t forget Jack Morris, who won the WS with the 1984 Tigers and finally, rightfully joined the HoF as the ’80s greatest gunslinger.

    The tragedy of the ’84 Tigers is that bunch only won one WS, when they should have won 2 or 3.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  102. Hibernian says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It’s not easy to choose a good doctor. One of mine was a med school professor at a good med school, and also absent minded. Another, an osteopathic school professor, I remembered as having been good (inquisitive, thorough, willing to explain things) in my younger days when I went to the low priced clinic at the osteopathic school for a respiratory infection(he was not a professor yet at that time.) As a late middle aged man (he was/is about the same age as me) he seemed preoccupied and indifferent; also, he owned the clinic, the administrative help was horrendous (nurse and techs were fine), and he did nothing about it.

    Another issue is that it’s not always clear what is due to the doctor not being the best and what is due to the insurance company not being willing to pay for the proper care. The best solution I could find was to switch from HMO to PPO where the doctors are better and it’s easier to get tests and procedures approved, for more money (from the patient), of course.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  103. Hail says: • Website
    @El Dato

    targeted antisemitism

    Miss Ocasio-Cortez is maybe not be the most coherent…

    …but she does know whom to please to get ahead.

  104. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    OT : (not ‘Operating Thetan’, just off topic)

    https://newrepublic.com/article/155212/worked-capital-one-five-years-justified-piling-debt-poor-customers

    The first thing you should know about a woman I know, who I’ll call Annie, is that she volunteers to sit at the hospital with people who are going to die alone, who have no family or friends to be with them during their last moments. “It’s obviously sad,” she told me, “but I feel like I have enough positive energy that I can share some.” And share she does: She cooks her coworkers’ favorite desserts for their birthday; she organizes anti-racism workshops and attends racial justice protests; she teaches ESL classes to recent immigrants. Annie is, in short, a very nice person. She works hard at being good, to be friendly and kind to everyone she meets.

    She also, for a time, made a living selling credit cards with high interest rates to people who were barely making ends meet.

    Annie and I worked together at Capital One for three years. For a few months, I was her boss. I oversaw the bank’s “secured card” product—a credit card marketed to people whose credit is so bad they can’t get a credit limit of $300 at a 27 percent interest rate without putting down a security deposit. Ironically, at Capital One, the more of a positive-energy type you were, the more likely it was that you’d work in the subprime division. There, people like Annie and myself reasoned, the choices you made could, hypothetically, make things easier for struggling families. We told ourselves that such families likely didn’t have any better lending options. And for poor, under-banked households, many lending options are far worse than Capital One.

    SJCish is as SJC doeth, in other words.

  105. @Peterike

    Over time, it’s become clear to me that there is nothing–nothing–that our buddy Jack will not countenance so long as, well, you know.

    So much of our society is run on this basis that it’s passing strange that we don’t really have an acceptable term for it. But then, that’s telling too.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  106. @Reg Cæsar

    Dennis Weaver. Chester had a limp,and comedians would often imitate him ” running” after the marshall,calling out ,”Mister Dillon, mister Dillon!”

  107. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Logan

    The famousest Chet I know.

  108. MBlanc46 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Dennis Weaver. One of the great Western sidekicks. Festus was a real comedown.

  109. Jack D says:
    @ScarletNumber

    I understand perfectly. The way you fill it is with great writing and great comedic personalities on stage. They have neither.

  110. OT: Just came back from seeing Joker. I predict this will be for young white men what Django Unchained was for young black men. In their minds it will essentially justify violence towards the system (real or not) that’s keeping them down. Of course, being that white men having far less genetic propensity to violence than black men, it will result in a lot less actual violence. But this is an important film that captures the alienation and despair of many working-class white men better than almost any other major and widely-seen entertainment product in ages.

    • Replies: @Hail
  111. @Anonymous

    The reason the Jewish media likes to use “chip” as a triggering wasp name is because it’s a reference to being a II or III as in “chip off the old block.”

    because Jews use neither surnames-as-first-names nor juniors, thirds, etc.

    An Italian, an Irishwoman, a Jewess, and a gay WASP sat around a table…

    BEHAR: You noticed how wasps — here’s the thing with wasps, which you are one of them.

    COOPER: Yes, I am.

    BEHAR: Family haves the first name as somebody’s last name.

    COOPER: It’s true.

    (CROSSTALK)

    BEHAR: Like (INAUDIBLE). Anderson Cooper.

    COOPER: I’m like an 18th century law firm.

    RIVERS: Yes.

    BEHAR: But you noticed that Jews don’t do that. You’ll never hear Gerstein Bernstein. It’s only wasps that do that. What is that about?

    (LAUGHTER)

    COOPER: There’s many things I don’t understand about being a wasp.

    RIVERS: Actually his name is Edgar Cooper (INAUDIBLE).

    COOPER: We’ve got to take another quick break.

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/acd.01.html

    • Replies: @Jack D
  112. Hail says: • Website
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    See Trevor Lynch’s review of Joker. It’s quite a negative review. I think he fails to sufficiently identify/emphasize important political aspects of Joker but still worth reading.

    Hunter Wallace’s comments on Joker (comment 4) are also worth a read.

  113. @Hibernian

    A GP in my wife’s small hometown was very genial and popular, and great with the kids. The problem was that his OB-GYN skills were old-school and quite rough, and the ladies wanted to go to someone else to have their babies, but didn’t want to hurt his feelings at the same time. They really did want the new kid to go to him– after mom was safely up and walking around.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  114. Dtbb says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Can I get a HoJo? He was my buddy’s older brother growing up.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  115. anon[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    Tanning salons are popular with young women, the tubes are shielded though, so Melanoma isn’t likely.
    I used them to get UV-B in the winter, before they were banned in 2014.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  116. @anon

    Tanning goes in and out of fashion.

    Also, tanning has a euphoric effect on some people. I’ve never seen a study of it, but it’s a real effect.

  117. Corn says:
    @Flip

    Chet makes me think of John Candy’s character in The Great Outdoors. The character being either from Chicago or its suburbs.

  118. keypusher says:
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    But as any weightlifter will tell you, a pronounced tan makes your muscles look more defined. Google Mr. Universe.

  119. Mr. Anon says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Over time, it’s become clear to me that there is nothing–nothing–that our buddy Jack will not countenance so long as, well, you know.

    As they say “Torah is Love”. Well, “Love means never having to say your sorry.”

  120. Harold says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Chester Williams, the only black (coloured in SA) player on the rugby world cup winning Springboks side died in September

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/sep/11/chester-williams-obituary

    I remember watching him play, and seeing him in interviews. He seemed like a likeable guy, and the fans here liked him.

  121. @Mr. Anon

    And you’d only have to sit through 90 minutes of excrutiatingly unfunny sketches and
    two bad musical sets to see it.

    I just clicked on the YouTube clip embedded in this blog post… Are you blind? Have you held on to that gripe for ages and just refused to recognize the changes since then?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  122. @Steve Sailer

    In the southeastern F.U.S.A., juniors often become “Bubba.”

    I never knew a single Chip or Chet in my life. Only one’s I heard of are Dave Chapelle’s famous, white friend and this guy (remember him?):

    (Well, and Chet Atkins.)

  123. Alden says:
    @Bugg

    Few years ago a “ man “ stabbed 3 people waiting at a NYC bus stop. He went to the next stop stabbed 2 more. Then he went down to the subway stop and stabbed someone else. 2 victims died.

    Here’s the description. Man 5’10 170 pds early 30s wearing black nikes red swoosh black pants white hooded sweatshirt red padded vest over sweatshirt black baseball cap red logo and a tooth missing from left lower jaw.

    That’s the detailed exact description down to the missing tooth. But not race of course

    Subway video showed dark skinned black man. Of course, naturally what else

    KTLA 5 TV news S California always shows videos of crimes. Almost all are black.

  124. Alden says:
    @William Badwhite

    You’ve never been badly injured have you? You don’t have cancer do you?

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  125. @Reg Cæsar

    What general practitioner (presumably specialising in family medicine or internal medicine) delivers babies?! Sure, one could at a pinch, at least as well as an EMT might, but you don’t probably want him to, and he probably doesn’t want to. Suppose there is a complication. The guy’s maybe never performed an episiotomy in his life. Obstetricians deliver babies. The poor bastard’s obstetrical and gynecological skills were wanting because he was not an obstetrician and gynecologist.

    And who takes his children to the physician (and, presumably, obstetrician) who delivered them? They go see pediatricians once they are viably delivered. (Pediatricians and neonatologists even care for babies at birth when they’ve problems, not obstetricians.)

    Are you European or Canadian or some such? Is the atrocious dearth of proper specialisation implied by your comment some goofy “socialised medicine” nonsense outside the F.U.S.A.?

  126. Alden says:
    @Peterike

    Jack’s one of my favorite commenters. Mainly because he’s an attorney. So he can explain aspects of the American legal system that seem totally unreasonable to the normal “ reasonable man”

    He defends Jews. I defend women and attack affirmative action. We’ve all got our thing.

  127. @William Badwhite

    I really cannot for the life of me understand how any physician but a real scumbag has contributed to the phenomenon. I was prescribed opiate medicine twice in my (not so short anymore) life: both times following surgery such that not having them would have left me groaning and screaming from my bed, like the extras in old movies set in field hospitals during nineteenth-century wars, and both times in small amounts, for brief periods (only two only weeks when recovering from the most serious surgery) with no refill available, and with stern admonitions from the prescribing surgeons about the dangers. If I’d been some weird case whose intense pain loitered longer than it ought to have, I would have had to go back to the surgeon, and he would be examining me to see what the complication was, not handing me another prescription for more drugs.

    Setting to one side the responsibility of the patients-cum-addicts, when one thinks that there are obviously hundreds, perhaps thousands, of quacks handing out this stuff like it is candy on Halloween, it boggles the mind, and moves one to want to reach for the pitchforks and torches….

    • Replies: @Jack D
  128. Alden says:
    @Lot

    Ever been badly injured? Obviously you don’t have cancer.

    Why is Sacker being targeted? Many pharmaceutical companies make OxyContin morphine methadone and other extra strong painkillers. OxyContin is more for chronic pain.

    Cancer serious injury smashed bones pain can only be alleviated by the methadone morphine combination drip right into the blood stream

    I don’t believe anything in the media. The OxyContin addiction problem is all over the media. That’s why I’m skeptical.

    For instance; I was extremely busy during that Bosnia Serbian war. Didn’t read news papers stayed off the internet. Headlines a few minutes of TV news endlessly repeated Bosnia Muslims good Christian Serbs and Croats bad. As always, I assumed the opposite was true.

    And I was right. Truth was, Bosnia Muslims bad Christian Serbs and Croats good.

    It’s been that way all my life. Media is always wrong. The opposite is true.

    Just my opinion. Let the lawyers fight it out. Ignore media lies.

  129. Thea says:
    @Mungerite

    Can’t help but notice these types of relationships resemble old fashion polygyny. Not quite so shiny, new and avant guard after all.

  130. Thea says:
    @Autochthon

    In our town some GPs deliver babies. Maybe this doesn’t happen in big cities but where specialists are in greater supply. But it seems normal to me.

  131. anon[470] • Disclaimer says:

    He defends Jews. I defend women

    Those behaviors are normal, for each of you.

    https://infogalactic.com/info/In-group_favoritism

    However too much ingroup favoritism leads to the situation Another Dad calls “minoritarianism”, where the center of a society cannot hold, and something has to give way, such as social cohesion. That leads to more than just bowling alone, by the way. Jack sometimes is like a cartoon or caricature, and the interesting thing is he does not seem to be aware of this.

    By the way, “Team Woman” is real. It’s mentioned in my link. Notice that women favor other women over men by a ratio of at least 4:1, while there is no corresponding effect in men. That’s right, men do not have any tendency to favor other men over women as a group. At least, white men do not. IMO this underlies the “Women are Wonderful” pheonom, aka “White Knighting”.

    It’s how we got where we are; women make demands, men cave in to demands, provide more resources to women, women aren’t satisfied with results.
    Lather, rinse, repeat.

    • Replies: @Alden
  132. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Was Behar supposed to be the Jew or the Italian? She is Italian by birth but at one point married and later divorced a Jew named Behar. Behar is a Sephardic name BTW.

    RIVERS: Actually his name is Edgar Cooper (INAUDIBLE).

    Actually it isn’t but it’s not uncommon for WASPs to do that (i.e. your real name is Edgar Anderson Cooper but you go by Anderson or E. Anderson). But not in this case – his first name on his birth cert. really is Anderson.

    Naming practices, even strange ones like having invented names, strike me as a harmless cultural quirk and it’s hard to ascribe much meaning to them.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  133. @Alden

    You’ve never been badly injured have you?

    Yes

    You don’t have cancer do you?

    No

  134. @Autochthon

    Actually, it was his prenatal care that the women were avoiding, the routine examinations and probes, and he wouldn’t have been present for the birth anyway. I probably know some of his patients, but am not going to ask.

  135. Jack D says:
    @Autochthon

    There are people who have chronic pain such as from back injuries which may not be amenable to surgery. This is different than short term post surgical pain.

    There are also people with addictive personalities and those who aren’t prone to addiction. My experience was like yours – I couldn’t wait to get off of opiate pain meds ASAP. Not only did I not derive any euphoria or enjoyment from them but they were highly constipating. But I don’t have an addictive personality – I consume small amounts of alcohol fairly regularly but I don’t crave it. If I was given the choice between no more alcohol and no more sweets and pastries, I think I would opt for the pastry – I would miss that more (maybe I’m a sugar addict?). When I was a kid I tried smoking a few times but it just made me nauseous and I never took up the habit. But some people get hooked (physiologically or psychologically) the first time they take a pill or a drink or light up.

  136. JimB says:
    @James J. O'Meara

    The fictional Sen. Geahry resents competition from out of state crooks. The white middle class resents permanent dispossession and displacement by foreign panhandlers.

  137. J.Ross says:
    @ScarletNumber

    I actually came to the same conclusion a long time ago: SNL’s greatest weakness is that it’s for normies, it chases popularity, in order to be popular they’re scared of being funny or throwing things out too fast, so, not to milk or innovate but to keep Average Viewer chucking, they repeat repeat repeat. You know what the one guy is going to say four and a half minutes later: it will be the exact same thing he said four and a half minutes before that. Compare that to the brief but funny, almost avant garde, and constantly varying and adding in-sketch Kids in the Hall, from the same producer. And if they can’t fill ninety minutes then maybe they shouldn’t be ninety minutes.
    The John Belushi best of disc includes his audition and it’s interesting to see him start to go in a wild direction and then hear Lorne, without malice or arrogance, command, “don’t do that again.” And that’s from when it was funny.

  138. Anonymous[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon

    Family practitioners and old fashioned general practitioners do deliveries in rural areas all the time. Usually the general surgeon does planned C sections.

    In urban and suburban areas no way.

  139. @Jack D

    …his first name on his birth cert. really is Anderson.

    I read Wyatt Cooper’s book Families back in the ’70s, and noted his sons’ names Carter and Anderson. But that was a distant memory when I went to research whatever happened to Carter, and was shocked to learn that little bro was that face on CNN.

    Funny, I had already pegged AC as somehow Southern, but without the accent. I must have good Greydar!

    Carter committed a dramatic suicide in his mother’s presence, so, with Anderson’s proclivities, it looks like Wyatt’s line will die out. Gloria’s may survive– she has grandchildren through one of her Stokowski sons.I

    Actually it isn’t but it’s not uncommon for WASPs to do that (i.e. your real name is Edgar Anderson Cooper but you go by Anderson or E. Anderson).

    Edgar was the husband of Joan Rivers, and she used his real name in her act. So that was Joan’s dirty joke.

    Phyllis Diller, not technically WASP but the product of a WASP environment, used the fictional “Fang” in hers.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  140. peterike says:

    The New Yorker often suffers from the worst kind of political correctness, but they still put out some really good reporting now and again. This article on the Sacklers is highly informative.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/30/the-family-that-built-an-empire-of-pain

  141. @anon

    Well said. I agree completely.

  142. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    IIRC Edgar killed himself too. And then Rivers died because she went to some kind of celebrity doctor instead of getting treated in a real hospital by a real surgeon.

  143. Precious says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Reminds me of an amusing episode of the Simpsons. I don’t remember what specific TV show they were talking about, but Bart and Homer were watching a popular show’s series finale, and Bart asked Homer why the TV show was ending while it was still popular. Homer tries to explain that the show wants to go out on a high note.

    Bart, “I wouldn’t do that if it was my TV show. If I was making a TV show, I would keep going and run it into the ground.”

    Homer, “Amen.”

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  144. Jack D says:
    @Peterike

    I know you won’t believe me but I feel the same way about the suits against Johnson & Johnson. They were selling an FDA approved product and the scrips were written by licenced doctors and the patients voluntarily took these pills.. If J&J and the Sacklers are guilty then they are not the only ones by far.

    States (these lawsuits are being brought mostly by states) see a goldmine of ex-post facto taxation that started with tobacco but apparently now will be never ending. You can’t do business in this kind of confiscatory environment. Who is next? McDonalds for selling hamburgers? Ben & Jerry for selling ice cream? The owners of tanning salons? Juul for selling vaping products? Gun mfrs? Auto manufacturers because cars kill pedestrians? Every public health issue can’t be an excuse for a government lawsuit.

    • Replies: @Alden
  145. anon[232] • Disclaimer says:

    Every public health issue can’t be an excuse for a government lawsuit.

    Why not?

    • Replies: @Alden
  146. @Mungerite

    [T]he love far outweighed any uncomfortability.

    Miss Westerna is clearly uncomfortable with discomfort.

    (Dollars to doughnuts not one of these bufoons actually knows how to handle a sword.)

    They’ll be divorced within a decade.

  147. @jon

    Chester Thompson:

    (There really is more to Baltimore than murder….)

  148. Alden says:
    @anon

    Because then we wouldn’t have medical products and other public health measures like seatbelts sewers etc.

  149. Alden says:
    @anon

    That’s because men have an uncontrollable need that only a woman can satisfy

  150. Alden says:
    @Jack D

    Some sandal and burlap clad old vegetarian hippies successfully sued MacDonalds UK for serving food distasteful to old British sandal and burlap clad vegetarian hippies.

    For a while obese people tried to sue MacDonalds USA for making them fat. “ The advertising and cute little stores enticed me and I couldn’t resist” “ Orange Formica causes me to eat like a pig”

  151. Alden says:
    @Autochthon

    Any Dr nurse intern physician assistant can take care of babies and toddlers. Weigh them give them their vaccines according to the regular schedule read the form parent filled out ask parents questions. Baby eats relieves himself not anemic normal weight rolls over sits up crawls walks talks within normal time. If baby isn’t developing normally refer to a specialist

    An incredible amount of regular checkups routine interventions and prescriptions are done by nurses and physicians assistants now days. Works out fine

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  152. Hail says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    When did the name Chet get popular?

    Ngram for “Chet” (appearances in books acording to the Google Book corpus):

    The term emerges in earnest only by the 1890s. Then there is, for some reason, a Chet spike in 1907-1916, and later a dramatic, single-year spike in 1943 (you can confirm these by setting smoothing to 0).

    Whatever caused the 1943 spike had some staying power, and at smoothing=5 the whole 1940s and 1950s look like a moderate, twenty-year ‘Chet’ bubble. Appearances of ‘Chet’ faded in the 1960s. But for whatever reason, ‘Chet’ was not destined to become a mid-century anachronism, as it has slowly and steadily gained ground in each decade from the 1970s through the 2000s.

    What is the 1943 Chet Bubble about?

    The only thing I find for Chet and 1943 is the death that year, by suicide, of a baseball player, Chet Chadbourne. The Google Corpus’ only suggestion for Chet appearances in 1943 is Chet Morton, a friend of the Hardy Boys, in “Hardy Boys 22: The Flickering Torch Mystery,” but this was only one of many of Chet’s appearances in Hardy Boys books.

    The 1943 spike could also be some kind of technical error.

    _____________

    For names of newborn baby boys:

    “Chet” was in the Top 1000 US baby boy names for the 1956 to 1987 birth cohorts (per SSA.gov), with 1963 the peak year.

    The problem with the above analysis is Chet is almost always a nickname for Chester. Chester, in turn, was long one of the more popular boy names going back to the 19th century. The single-year peak for ‘Chester’ was 1919, when 0.34% of baby boys born in the USA were given that name.

    ‘Chester’ was in the Top 100 baby boy names thru 1930 (e.g., country music legend Chet [Chester] Atkins b.1924); Top 200 thru mid-1950s; Top 300 thru 1965; Top 400 thru 1974; Top 500 thru 1983; rapidly loses popularity from mid 1980s and out of Top 1000 as of 1996.

  153. Mr. Anon says:
    @Massimo Heitor

    What gripe? SNL tries to fill up 90 minutes of air-time with about 10-20 minutes of material. They have always done that. Sometimes they are funnier than other times, but they are never that funny (one reason why I seldom watched it, and haven’t done so for years). That sketch in particular was mildly amusing, but not real funny.

  154. @Dtbb

    Apparently ol’ Sparky wasn’t too fond of HoJo, trading him to the Mets right after winning that World Series for Walt Terrell. Terrell wasn’t bad but HoJo really blossomed with the Mets after allowing Mr. Nancy Lopez to leave via free agency.

    The heart and soul of those Tigers teams of course was Kirk Gibson. Gibson left via free agency after leading the team to the 1987 AL East title. Wanna guess how many All-Star teams Gibson was named to in his career?

    [MORE]
    None. The 1988 NL MVP and 1984 AL 6th place MVP finisher was not elected a starter either year, losing to Darryl Strawberry and Reggie Jackson. Adding insult to injury is that the starting AL CF in 1984 was the aforementioned Chet Lemon.

  155. @Alden

    It works out fine if there are no latent problems only a skilled pediatrician may notice (which of course is, statistically, most of the time; but it’s the uncommon stuff one is guarding against). It’s a parent’s prerogative: you take your children to Nurse Piggy; I’ll keep having my child monitored by his excellent pediatrician – call me risk averse.

  156. “Americans just aren’t all that interested in Latinos.”

    But, judging from the increased levels of illegal/legal immigration, Latinos are very interested in America.

  157. @Rich

    That would have been a better punchline rather than the joker. The joker would have been a good setup for a 13 percent joke.

  158. The problem with every SNL sketch I’ve seen in the last 30 years (which is not many) is that they take a 1 joke gage and stretch it out to a 5 minute sketch. –Jack D

    And you’d only have to sit through 90 minutes of excrutiatingly unfunny sketches and two bad musical sets to see it. –Mr Anon

    You understand it’s a 90-minute show, right? They have to fill it some how. –ScarletNumber

    And if they can’t fill ninety minutes then maybe they shouldn’t be ninety minutes. –J. Ross

    SNL tries to fill up 90 minutes of air-time with about 10-20 minutes of material. They have always done that. –Mr Anon

    From the extended version of Monty Python’s Dead Parrot Sketch:

    [John Cleese as parrot purchaser] Mr. Praline: I wish to complain.

    [Terry Jones as British Rail] Attendant: I DON’T HAVE TO DO THIS JOB, YOU KNOW!!!

    Mr. Praline: I beg your pardon…?

    Attendant: I’m a qualified brain surgeon! I only do this job because I like being my own boss!

    Mr. Praline: Excuse me, this is irrelevant, isn’t it?

    Attendant: Yeah, well it’s not easy to pad these programs out to 30 minutes.

    http://www.milanoinglese.it/blog/monty-python-parrot/

  159. Hhsiii says:
    @Marty

    Oh right. Embarrassing. Knicks usually faced the Bullets and or Celtics in early 70s playoffs. The Bulls were usually losing to the Lakers. I remember those Bullets, too. Chenier, Marin, Unseld, Gus Johnson. Monroe pre-Knicks, then Mike Riordan. Motta was the Bulls coach, then he was Bullets coach after Gene Shue when they won a title with Elvin Hayes. Some of the old synapses musta gotten rewired.

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