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From Vox in 2015.

“When the medical community links race to health outcomes, it’s really just using race as a substitute for other factors, such as where your ancestors came from …”

 
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  1. ziel says:

    I know when I want to be lectured on Race I prefer it come from a Millenial with severe vocal fry.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    Wow, that is both the worst vocal fry and uptalking I've ever heard. After 35 seconds it was unbearable, and I have a high tolerance.

    When Big Hillary's goons drag me to reeducation class, I fear it will be much worse than the drab Stalinist propaganda you saw in cold war movies like Red Dawn.

    Imagine being strapped down and forced to watch, Clockwork Orange style, Ezra Klein's woke minions doing these peppy condescending "explainers" for hours on end.
    , @Lot
    So much for charming southern accents. The voice is Estelle Caswell, the butch Vox music critic from southern alabama.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Yeah, that awful voice was damned near unbearable.
    , @Detective Club
    Ole Joe Conrad was a prophet who could see into the future. That Voice! THE HORROR! THE HORROR!
    https://youtu.be/VKcAYMb5uk4
    , @Faraos Cigarrer
    I thinks she does the voice for Lumpy Space Princess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRKBBo2RPKQ
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  2. J.Ross says: • Website

    Because doctors love making things more complicated, as illustrated in the doctors’ aversion to acronyms.
    Also, they make less sense than Michael Jackson:
    Y’see it’s not about races,
    Just faces: places.
    It’s where your blood comes from,
    It’s where your space is.

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    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Y’see it’s not about races,
    Just faces: places.
    It’s where your blood comes from,
    It’s where your space is.

    Great lines!

    Umm - where, from which - - facility - - did Michael's blood come from?
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  3. The woman who narrated that video has a voice made for silent movies.

    “When the medical community links race to health outcomes, it’s really just using race as a substitute for other factors, such as where your ancestors came from …”

    It is tempting to link that statement to its author’s stupidity, but I guess that would be a case of using stupidity as a substitute for other factors, such as low IQ.

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  4. “When the medical community links race to health outcomes, it’s really just using race as a substitute for other factors, such as where your ancestors came from …”

    Well…damn.

    I guess that settles it then.

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  5. If the word race becomes abolished, some other word will take its place. I sense we’re already reaching for that word, even if I don’t know what it’ll be. But what I do know is that in time that word too will have to be abolished.

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    • Agree: Travis, Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Cline
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Sex --> Gender
    , @snorlax
    Species? ;)
    , @Olorin
    In 2016, in a comment on our host's reflections on The Guardian calling Boulder, Colorado, the future of America, frequent commenter SPMoore8 wrote:


    The reason these names keep changing is because a word designates an object, and if an object accrues bad associations, then by re-naming the object, it is thought that you remove the bad associations. But the bad associations always come right back, because it is the object, not the word, that is creating the problem. The first person I know to point this out was Schopenhauer, 150 years ago (Section 285a in the Parerga and Paralipomena).

    All social justice re-naming (including the current jihad against “oriental”) is similarly motivated and will require similar re-naming every cycle.
     
    #263, http://www.unz.com/isteve/guardian-americas-future-is-boulder-colorado/

    Others commented as well on the phenomenon, but SP nailed the primitive magic aspect of this habit of SJWs...even while assigning it a too-recent origin. Naming Magic is a well-discussed phenomenon in various fields and has been an observed phenomenon in religion for thousands of years.

    MIT emeritus professor Loren Graham has had one of the most interesting recent takes on it of which I'm aware...though a bit less psychologically perceptive than SP's take:

    A common concept in history is that knowing the name of something or someone gives one power over that thing or person. This concept occurs in many different forms, in numerous cultures—in ancient and primitive tribes, as well as in Islamic, Jewish, Egyptian, Vedic, Hindu, and Christian traditions. The strength of this belief varies, and there are certainly exceptions to it. Nonetheless, the persistence and historical continuity of the linking of naming and power are unmistakable. Some scholars find it embedded in the first verses of Genesis, probably written over three thousand years ago; others believe it to be an intrinsic characteristic of classical Greek religion; still others find it a central feature in magic and folklore; and modern feminists often see it as the reason that a woman in marriage is traditionally asked to take the name of her new husband. In all these cases, naming something or someone is seen as the exertion of dominion over that thing or person. Several twentieth-century mathematicians gave naming a peculiar twist that reflected their deep religious mysticism and influenced their creativity.
     
    http://philoctetes.org/news/the_power_of_names_religion_mathematics

    His 2009 book, Naming Infinity: A True Story of Religious Mysticism and Mathematical Creativity, is well worth reading. If you dig around you can find talks and articles he derived from this interest in naming magic as it constitutes part of some mathematicians' thinking.

    This is the left's primary source of power. "Thugs" are renamed "teens," "dimwits" are renamed "college graduates" (after having gone through a lucrative process of tax-dollar farming or debt-acquisition), "insane people" are renamed "transsexual furries," and such.

    The game is dominion through creating a new religion of SJW. The left has excelled at dominion through renaming, using the mass media. So much so that the media, as Gregory Hood points out, are the de facto power base in today's US republic. The example he used last winter: renaming anything a white man ever did in his mating behavior as "assault" or "rape."

    In theory, democracy is government by the people. But as most people believe simply whatever the System media tells them to believe, democracy is really just government via the media. Politicians and statesman are essentially interchangeable. Culture, tradition, and kinship are far less significant in the calculations of power than who controls the television networks, the major Internet providers, and the key online institutions such as YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and PayPal.

    ...Most journalism, as it is practiced, is not any kind of a check on power, but an attempt to defend power by identifying dissidents and waging Alinksy-style campaigns of personal destruction against them. Dissenters are fired, deplatformed, and socially isolated in the name of “democracy.” Because this power is not exclusively exercised through state institutions (through it is certainly empowered by “civil rights” laws and the abolition of free association), even well-meaning Americans have trouble identifying it as tyrannical, instead simply dismissing it as the “free market in action.”
     
    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/12/the-great-alabama-shit-test/

    That quote deftly sums up what is happening at The Evergreen State College. Though the renaming is "equity." Not "democracy." And the tyrant is an uber-cuck Boomer repeating 1970s talking points from Penn's sociology department to work the will of the board of trustees (a passel of SJW priests in their own right). And why not? It's been a lucrative ride. For him. A guy who can't even fix his own fireplace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfVRaExw1lI&feature=youtu.be&t=4m30s
    , @Random Smartaleck
    Clade, maybe?
    , @Slayer
    Ancestry group. Long since replaced in most literature.
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  6. Wilkey says:

    “If the word race becomes abolished, some other word will take its place. I sense we’re already reaching for that word, even if I don’t know what it’ll be. But what I do know is that in time that word too will have to be abolished.”

    Negro -> Colored -> Urban -> Black -> African-American -> Vibrant

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    Negro -> Colored -> Urban -> Black -> African-American -> Vibrant
     
    Is it too late to go back to Coon, Spade, Spook, Nig-nog, or Porch Monkey?
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  7. Anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew
    If the word race becomes abolished, some other word will take its place. I sense we're already reaching for that word, even if I don't know what it'll be. But what I do know is that in time that word too will have to be abolished.

    Cline

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    • Replies: @Lex Corvus
    Only some group differences are clinal, though. Most cluster by shared ancestry.
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  8. jayze says:

    She made an interesting argument for the wavering legal definition of race, but supported the stable biological definition.

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  9. The Myth of Race.
    Race linked to outcomes.
    Race= Ancestry.
    The Myth of Ancestry and Outcomes.
    LOL.

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  10. @International Jew
    If the word race becomes abolished, some other word will take its place. I sense we're already reaching for that word, even if I don't know what it'll be. But what I do know is that in time that word too will have to be abolished.

    Sex –> Gender

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  11. Top tip. Avoid nasty congenital diseases by simply emigrating, since health outcomes are linked to where your ancestors come from.

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    • Replies: @Ivy

    Top tip. Avoid nasty congenital diseases by simply emigrating, since health outcomes are linked to where your ancestors come from.
     
    The plague, coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
    , @Philo
    That won't help you, but it might help your descendants (if you emigrate to a genetically healthier region).
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  12. When can we catalog these claims as a findings clause for the law prohibiting collection of racial and ethnic identification for employment and admissions?

    It seems to me that it would serve the interests of African Americans, in particular, to limit all such collection (including by gender) to two boxes: African American, Not-African American.

    Citizens: select one. Permanent and temporary residents, leave empty.

    Much, much goodness would follow from this reform.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That's how "Hispanic" was handled for years. You only got two choices for "Ethnicity" -- Hispanic or Not Hispanic.
    , @songbird
    I've often thought there was a gigantic market for a service that would use technology to remove race and sex from all interviews, just as certain elite musical organizations, do their auditions, behind a blocking screen.

    The big question for me is would it even be legal, disparate impact being what it is? I think it would be very possible on a technological level, to make it so someone could not even guess, but politically it might be a different matter.
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  13. @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    When can we catalog these claims as a findings clause for the law prohibiting collection of racial and ethnic identification for employment and admissions?

    It seems to me that it would serve the interests of African Americans, in particular, to limit all such collection (including by gender) to two boxes: African American, Not-African American.

    Citizens: select one. Permanent and temporary residents, leave empty.

    Much, much goodness would follow from this reform.

    That’s how “Hispanic” was handled for years. You only got two choices for “Ethnicity” — Hispanic or Not Hispanic.

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    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    I still see that on quite a number of forms.

    You have two choices on ethnicity, Hispanic or Not Hispanic

    Then you choose your race.

    Most forms these days have a spot for "two or more races"
    Some forms allow you to choose as many races as you like.

    For those of us who have designed GUIs, it is the difference between radio buttons and check boxes.
    , @Highlander
    I find it hilarious that what they really meant by Hispanic was weather or not you were a mestizo with Native American blood and a Spanish last surname. Here in the United States we use a ridiculous reverse one-drop rule. If you have any Indian blood at all you can call yourself an Native American.
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  14. snorlax says:
    @International Jew
    If the word race becomes abolished, some other word will take its place. I sense we're already reaching for that word, even if I don't know what it'll be. But what I do know is that in time that word too will have to be abolished.

    Species? ;)

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  15. Trump could provide me with endless hours of entertainment if he were to state:
    “I’ve listened to our most esteemed social scientists and academics and agree with their statement that race is myth. Therefore, we will be reforming the census by eliminating all questions related to race.”

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    • Replies: @Travis
    but "ethnicity" would remain and probably expanded to create an "ebonics" or "Black" ethnicity since we cannot eliminate the "hispanic" ethnicity. Would be interesting if "Black" became an ethnic group like hispanic if it restricted the Black ethnic category to those who had deep routes in America and thus exclude Africans from the "Black" ethnic category just as we exclude Spanish Americans from the "hispanic" ethnic category today.

    Will the academics and leftists ever disparage the use of "ethnicity" to describe people and start the narrative that "ethnicity" does not exist ? Will they ever conclude that ancestry does not exist ?
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  16. That voice! Oof!

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  17. ic1000 says:

    When the medical community links country of origin to health outcomes, it’s really just using where your ancestors came from as a substitute for other factors, such as race.

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    When the medical community links country of origin to health outcomes, it’s really just using where your ancestors came from as a substitute for other factors, such as race.
     
    No, it's just PC doubletalk. "Where your ancestors came from" and "Race" are two names for the same thing.

    For exammple

    When the medical community links country of origin to health outcomes, it’s really just using where your ancestors came from (e.g. Africa) as a substitute for other factors, such as race (e.g. African).
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  18. songbird says:
    @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    When can we catalog these claims as a findings clause for the law prohibiting collection of racial and ethnic identification for employment and admissions?

    It seems to me that it would serve the interests of African Americans, in particular, to limit all such collection (including by gender) to two boxes: African American, Not-African American.

    Citizens: select one. Permanent and temporary residents, leave empty.

    Much, much goodness would follow from this reform.

    I’ve often thought there was a gigantic market for a service that would use technology to remove race and sex from all interviews, just as certain elite musical organizations, do their auditions, behind a blocking screen.

    The big question for me is would it even be legal, disparate impact being what it is? I think it would be very possible on a technological level, to make it so someone could not even guess, but politically it might be a different matter.

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    • Replies: @L Woods
    They tried this. As will come as no surprise to anyone here, women and NAMs did worse, not better as predicted by goodthinkers. Therefore of course, there's no use for it.
    , @ziggurat
    The following article describes an experiment in which interviewees had their voices disguised so that they sounded like the opposite sex. The result was that there appears to be a slight bias in favor of women for tech jobs. In other words, the study got the "wrong" result and that's why you haven't heard about this study.

    http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/07/01/not-sexism-women-just-suck-interviews/
    “If anything, we started to notice some trends in the opposite direction of what we expected: for technical ability, it appeared that men who were modulated to sound like women did a bit better than unmodulated men and that women who were modulated to sound like men did a bit worse than unmodulated women.”
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  19. Ibound1 says:

    Your full genetic profile will, in the future, be completely accessible to you doctors (and any prospective spouse). Only employers will be forbidden to see it at pain of death probably. For employers and governments the old categories will be used for much longer – because the plaintiffs’ lawyers need them to file claims at the EEOC. And the EEOC needs them to have something to do.

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    Once genetic knowledge becomes so widespread, eugenics cannot be far behind.

    The question (possibly for 2075) will be whether government should or even can stop people from selectively choosing traits of their children?
    , @hyperbola
    Of course that genetic profile will be mostly useless for anything more than the 1% of "rare" diseases that are usually fatal.

    Personalized medicine, intelligence asnalysis and all other "phenotypes" that are complex will never be interpretable (although many "genes" will be sold to the gullible).
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  20. @J.Ross
    Because doctors love making things more complicated, as illustrated in the doctors' aversion to acronyms.
    Also, they make less sense than Michael Jackson:
    Y'see it's not about races,
    Just faces: places.
    It's where your blood comes from,
    It's where your space is.

    Y’see it’s not about races,
    Just faces: places.
    It’s where your blood comes from,
    It’s where your space is.

    Great lines!

    Umm – where, from which – – facility – – did Michael’s blood come from?

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    There is a huge and gathering amount of evidence that Elizabeth Bathory was right and "young blood" really does mitigate aging. There are several creepy, ultra-weathy elite people who look solidly middle-aged, but are officially in their seventies and nineties. There's all manner of secrets, scientifically legitimate and otherwise, in boutique medicine for the ultra-rich.
    http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/beauty-news/sandra-bullock-foreskin-facial-596468
    https://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/gloriavanderbiltandersoncooper1.jpg
    Does Gloria Vanderbilt look like she was born in 1924 in this image?
    Bill Gates: "Maybe I won't die."
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  21. L Woods says:
    @songbird
    I've often thought there was a gigantic market for a service that would use technology to remove race and sex from all interviews, just as certain elite musical organizations, do their auditions, behind a blocking screen.

    The big question for me is would it even be legal, disparate impact being what it is? I think it would be very possible on a technological level, to make it so someone could not even guess, but politically it might be a different matter.

    They tried this. As will come as no surprise to anyone here, women and NAMs did worse, not better as predicted by goodthinkers. Therefore of course, there’s no use for it.

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  22. Well this is a relief. I’ve noticed that people whose ancestors are from Africa tend to commit a lot more violent crimes than other people. Glad I can express that without being a racist.

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  23. @Steve Sailer
    That's how "Hispanic" was handled for years. You only got two choices for "Ethnicity" -- Hispanic or Not Hispanic.

    I still see that on quite a number of forms.

    You have two choices on ethnicity, Hispanic or Not Hispanic

    Then you choose your race.

    Most forms these days have a spot for “two or more races”
    Some forms allow you to choose as many races as you like.

    For those of us who have designed GUIs, it is the difference between radio buttons and check boxes.

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  24. @Steve Sailer
    That's how "Hispanic" was handled for years. You only got two choices for "Ethnicity" -- Hispanic or Not Hispanic.

    I find it hilarious that what they really meant by Hispanic was weather or not you were a mestizo with Native American blood and a Spanish last surname. Here in the United States we use a ridiculous reverse one-drop rule. If you have any Indian blood at all you can call yourself an Native American.

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    I'd like to use Highlander as my handle, too, but you know what they say...
    "There can be only one!"
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  25. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Dieter Kief
    Y’see it’s not about races,
    Just faces: places.
    It’s where your blood comes from,
    It’s where your space is.

    Great lines!

    Umm - where, from which - - facility - - did Michael's blood come from?

    There is a huge and gathering amount of evidence that Elizabeth Bathory was right and “young blood” really does mitigate aging. There are several creepy, ultra-weathy elite people who look solidly middle-aged, but are officially in their seventies and nineties. There’s all manner of secrets, scientifically legitimate and otherwise, in boutique medicine for the ultra-rich.
    http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/beauty-news/sandra-bullock-foreskin-facial-596468

    Does Gloria Vanderbilt look like she was born in 1924 in this image?
    Bill Gates: “Maybe I won’t die.”

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    She didn't do the transfusions right.
    , @Cloudbuster
    That's a carefully presented and retouched photo. Also, not recent.

    Vanderbilt today pretty much looks like she's wearing a skin mask:

    http://celebrityabc.net/gloria-vanderbilt-plastic-surgery-before-and-after

    The simple fact that she's 94 means she's doing something right, but we'll have to wait to see if she goes beyond ordinary human lifespan.
    , @Dieter Kief
    Jagger's regularly in Zürich, poeple say: For "blood exchange" or - laundry. He fathered one more baby lately.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Gloria Vanderbilt was truly gorgeous back in the 40s and 50s. Not so much now. She definitely doesn't look middle-aged. She's not doing as well as this woman...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c17PblYAe3o

    Take-away?
    Get ye to the gym!
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  26. anonymous[373] • Disclaimer says:

    This Vox is such a genius, producing videos on all manner of subjects: military, history, politics, biology, culture, you name it. He’s obviously an expert on everything and anything.

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  27. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:

    Is there some corollary to Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism that says they know they’re talking nonsense, but that the point is that the smarter, educated, well-composed black guys will be able to see through this and know that she is really signaling that she is very interested. (Not the other ones though. Gross!)

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  28. Moses says:

    Lefties:

    “Race doesn’t exist.”
    “Whites are racist.”
    “It’s racist to notice someone is another race.”
    “It’s racist not to notice someone is another race.”
    “You shouldn’t notice race, unless we want you to notice race (which doesn’t exist).”

    Orwell’s Doublethink is a real thing.

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  29. This is daft. Imagine an immigrant to the US from England, whose grandparents arrived in England from the Caribbean in the 1950s. His ancestors would be considered to come from England, but his race would still be African, and his medical profile would show African susceptibility to, for example, prostate cancer, as opposed to the “white English” prostate profile.

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    Imagine an immigrant to the US from England, whose grandparents arrived in England from the Caribbean in the 1950s. His ancestors would be considered to come from England
     
    Not if his ancestry was learned from a DNA test, which is what they're talking about here. Those go back a lot further than a couple of generations. Your hypothetical immigrant's 23andme results would show him as some combination of African and Carribean (assuming all four grandparents immigrated from there in the 1950s). England wouldn't show up on the test at all.
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  30. istevefan says:

    Concerning Mexicans:

    The narrator starts with 1929 and then mentions the change in 1930 and then the change in 1942.

    A couple of observations:

    First, I believe Mexicans were originally considered white after we absorbed a handful of them following the Mexican War of 1846-48. The reason was that naturalization was still limited to free whites due the first naturalization act of 1790 and the subsequent acts to date. Since we promised to take care of those Mexicans we inherited, we had to classify them as white to naturalize them. I think that was the reason, but I could be wrong.

    Second, the lady gives us a lecture about how Americans can be of many different classifications. But she implies Mexicans are uniformly one group. Why do people so readily understand that an American can be of any race or ethnicity, but seem to think Mexicans, and Latin Americans in general, are homogeneous? Though they probably comprise less than 10 percent, there are a group of Mexicans that are properly classed as white/European. But Vox doesn’t know this because the Mexican whites generally stay home and push the nonwhites into the US.

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  31. Ivy says:
    @The King is A Fink
    Top tip. Avoid nasty congenital diseases by simply emigrating, since health outcomes are linked to where your ancestors come from.

    Top tip. Avoid nasty congenital diseases by simply emigrating, since health outcomes are linked to where your ancestors come from.

    The plague, coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

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  32. Lot says:
    @ziel
    I know when I want to be lectured on Race I prefer it come from a Millenial with severe vocal fry.

    Wow, that is both the worst vocal fry and uptalking I’ve ever heard. After 35 seconds it was unbearable, and I have a high tolerance.

    When Big Hillary’s goons drag me to reeducation class, I fear it will be much worse than the drab Stalinist propaganda you saw in cold war movies like Red Dawn.

    Imagine being strapped down and forced to watch, Clockwork Orange style, Ezra Klein’s woke minions doing these peppy condescending “explainers” for hours on end.

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  33. Lot says:
    @ziel
    I know when I want to be lectured on Race I prefer it come from a Millenial with severe vocal fry.

    So much for charming southern accents. The voice is Estelle Caswell, the butch Vox music critic from southern alabama.

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    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    She must have worked really, really hard to be from there and yet make her voice sound that obnoxious.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    Is that Estelle Caswell of Park Slope, Hillary Clinton fan?

    http://nycitylens.com/2015/04/brooklyn-heights-welcomes-hillary-clinton-headquarters-to-the-neighborhood/
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  34. @Lot
    So much for charming southern accents. The voice is Estelle Caswell, the butch Vox music critic from southern alabama.

    She must have worked really, really hard to be from there and yet make her voice sound that obnoxious.

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    She must have worked really, really hard to be from there and yet make her voice sound that obnoxious.
     
    Chicken-fried vocal chords.
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  35. Mr. Anon says:
    @ziel
    I know when I want to be lectured on Race I prefer it come from a Millenial with severe vocal fry.

    Yeah, that awful voice was damned near unbearable.

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  36. Mr. Anon says:

    That video contained a lot of nonsense in only 3 minutes.

    1.) The old standard: Because the boundaries between races are not sharp, there is no such thing as race.

    2.) Because there are individuals whose self-identification changes, there is no such thing as race.

    3.) There is no single gene for race, therefore race does not exist.

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    1.) The old standard: Because the boundaries between races are not sharp, there is no such thing as race.

    The boundaries are really quite strikingly sharp.
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  37. ziggurat says:
    @songbird
    I've often thought there was a gigantic market for a service that would use technology to remove race and sex from all interviews, just as certain elite musical organizations, do their auditions, behind a blocking screen.

    The big question for me is would it even be legal, disparate impact being what it is? I think it would be very possible on a technological level, to make it so someone could not even guess, but politically it might be a different matter.

    The following article describes an experiment in which interviewees had their voices disguised so that they sounded like the opposite sex. The result was that there appears to be a slight bias in favor of women for tech jobs. In other words, the study got the “wrong” result and that’s why you haven’t heard about this study.

    http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/07/01/not-sexism-women-just-suck-interviews/

    “If anything, we started to notice some trends in the opposite direction of what we expected: for technical ability, it appeared that men who were modulated to sound like women did a bit better than unmodulated men and that women who were modulated to sound like men did a bit worse than unmodulated women.”

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    Thanks. That is quite interesting.
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  38. Dr. Doom says:

    Ignoring DNA, anatomy, observable behavior patterns and completely different ranges in IQ scores, “experts” are now convinced that just pretending facts don’t matter, cherry picking statistics and using guilt on White people will eventually work if you censor all White people and tell them to just die.

    This is the kind of “brilliance” this doomed system can offer you…

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  39. helena says:

    Race Categories are ‘made up’. In other words, ‘thought up’. Much like Darwin ‘thought up’ Evolution.

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  40. @Highlander
    I find it hilarious that what they really meant by Hispanic was weather or not you were a mestizo with Native American blood and a Spanish last surname. Here in the United States we use a ridiculous reverse one-drop rule. If you have any Indian blood at all you can call yourself an Native American.

    I’d like to use Highlander as my handle, too, but you know what they say…
    “There can be only one!”

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    There is a satisfying paradox in combining your first name with anonymous for a username.
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  41. @Ibound1
    Your full genetic profile will, in the future, be completely accessible to you doctors (and any prospective spouse). Only employers will be forbidden to see it at pain of death probably. For employers and governments the old categories will be used for much longer - because the plaintiffs’ lawyers need them to file claims at the EEOC. And the EEOC needs them to have something to do.

    Once genetic knowledge becomes so widespread, eugenics cannot be far behind.

    The question (possibly for 2075) will be whether government should or even can stop people from selectively choosing traits of their children?

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  42. @ziel
    I know when I want to be lectured on Race I prefer it come from a Millenial with severe vocal fry.

    Ole Joe Conrad was a prophet who could see into the future. That Voice! THE HORROR! THE HORROR!

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  43. The more time passes since I first became aware the West was failing, the more I find the process boils down to feminization. And the longer I consider that, the more I find feminization boils down to nominalism. Eg the notion that using five words where one would do, but still including the relevant geographical component (where) and genetic component (ancestors), changes anything.

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  44. Jack D says:
    @ic1000
    When the medical community links country of origin to health outcomes, it’s really just using where your ancestors came from as a substitute for other factors, such as race.

    When the medical community links country of origin to health outcomes, it’s really just using where your ancestors came from as a substitute for other factors, such as race.

    No, it’s just PC doubletalk. “Where your ancestors came from” and “Race” are two names for the same thing.

    For exammple

    When the medical community links country of origin to health outcomes, it’s really just using where your ancestors came from (e.g. Africa) as a substitute for other factors, such as race (e.g. African).

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    Does your tribe come from eastern Europe or from the mideast?

    Present-day Lebanese descend from Biblical Canaanites, genetic study suggests
    https://phys.org/news/2017-07-present-day-lebanese-descend-biblical-canaanites.html

    Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European
    https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
    ..... All told, more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to Europe, with only a few lineages originating in the Near East....
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  45. Raises the question what they thought race means.

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  46. Jack D says:

    This is who gets to lecture us (oops, I mean, “have a conversation about race”) in modern America:

    I think I would have preferred being lectured by Madame Mao, who at least had a more nuanced understanding of the world (and did not uptalk). This woman operates on the level of a 10 year old – “Did you know that in the old days you could change your race just by crossing state lines?” Lesbians naturally make the error of trying to infer general rules from fringe cases – Even though the vast majority of people are clearly of one race or gender, I can show you a few individuals who are neither fish nor fowl and therefore race/gender does not exist at all. This is like saying that the existence of the duck-billed platypus means that there is no distinction between mammals and birds.

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  47. According to this, race doesn’t exist because there isn’t a single chromosome that determines race, and because a lot of people don’t fit neatly into a single racial category. Also, laws concerning racial categories differ. That’s the sum total of the argument.

    Who on earth is this supposed to convince?

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  48. Mr. Anon says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist
    She must have worked really, really hard to be from there and yet make her voice sound that obnoxious.

    She must have worked really, really hard to be from there and yet make her voice sound that obnoxious.

    Chicken-fried vocal chords.

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  49. eric says:

    She says that the race assigned to you creates all sorts of advantages or handicaps, but for more than 30 years, those with merely 1/4 African American ancestry have clearly preferred being called Black/AA/etc. If the mere label was a huge handicap, like it was a century ago, they would not. Other things equal, being AA generates a lot more explicit and implicit (eg, moral superiority) advantages.

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  50. @Lot
    So much for charming southern accents. The voice is Estelle Caswell, the butch Vox music critic from southern alabama.
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    Yes it is.
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  51. @Semperluctor
    This is daft. Imagine an immigrant to the US from England, whose grandparents arrived in England from the Caribbean in the 1950s. His ancestors would be considered to come from England, but his race would still be African, and his medical profile would show African susceptibility to, for example, prostate cancer, as opposed to the “white English” prostate profile.

    Imagine an immigrant to the US from England, whose grandparents arrived in England from the Caribbean in the 1950s. His ancestors would be considered to come from England

    Not if his ancestry was learned from a DNA test, which is what they’re talking about here. Those go back a lot further than a couple of generations. Your hypothetical immigrant’s 23andme results would show him as some combination of African and Carribean (assuming all four grandparents immigrated from there in the 1950s). England wouldn’t show up on the test at all.

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    Oh, ok, I assumed that they were operating on the ‘race is only a construct’ theory, and that people were self identifying as ‘I come from England’. Thanks for the clarification, you are right.
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  52. @ziel
    I know when I want to be lectured on Race I prefer it come from a Millenial with severe vocal fry.

    I thinks she does the voice for Lumpy Space Princess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRKBBo2RPKQ

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  53. songbird says:
    @ziggurat
    The following article describes an experiment in which interviewees had their voices disguised so that they sounded like the opposite sex. The result was that there appears to be a slight bias in favor of women for tech jobs. In other words, the study got the "wrong" result and that's why you haven't heard about this study.

    http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/07/01/not-sexism-women-just-suck-interviews/
    “If anything, we started to notice some trends in the opposite direction of what we expected: for technical ability, it appeared that men who were modulated to sound like women did a bit better than unmodulated men and that women who were modulated to sound like men did a bit worse than unmodulated women.”

    Thanks. That is quite interesting.

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  54. Olorin says:
    @International Jew
    If the word race becomes abolished, some other word will take its place. I sense we're already reaching for that word, even if I don't know what it'll be. But what I do know is that in time that word too will have to be abolished.

    In 2016, in a comment on our host’s reflections on The Guardian calling Boulder, Colorado, the future of America, frequent commenter SPMoore8 wrote:

    The reason these names keep changing is because a word designates an object, and if an object accrues bad associations, then by re-naming the object, it is thought that you remove the bad associations. But the bad associations always come right back, because it is the object, not the word, that is creating the problem. The first person I know to point this out was Schopenhauer, 150 years ago (Section 285a in the Parerga and Paralipomena).

    All social justice re-naming (including the current jihad against “oriental”) is similarly motivated and will require similar re-naming every cycle.

    #263, http://www.unz.com/isteve/guardian-americas-future-is-boulder-colorado/

    Others commented as well on the phenomenon, but SP nailed the primitive magic aspect of this habit of SJWs…even while assigning it a too-recent origin. Naming Magic is a well-discussed phenomenon in various fields and has been an observed phenomenon in religion for thousands of years.

    MIT emeritus professor Loren Graham has had one of the most interesting recent takes on it of which I’m aware…though a bit less psychologically perceptive than SP’s take:

    A common concept in history is that knowing the name of something or someone gives one power over that thing or person. This concept occurs in many different forms, in numerous cultures—in ancient and primitive tribes, as well as in Islamic, Jewish, Egyptian, Vedic, Hindu, and Christian traditions. The strength of this belief varies, and there are certainly exceptions to it. Nonetheless, the persistence and historical continuity of the linking of naming and power are unmistakable. Some scholars find it embedded in the first verses of Genesis, probably written over three thousand years ago; others believe it to be an intrinsic characteristic of classical Greek religion; still others find it a central feature in magic and folklore; and modern feminists often see it as the reason that a woman in marriage is traditionally asked to take the name of her new husband. In all these cases, naming something or someone is seen as the exertion of dominion over that thing or person. Several twentieth-century mathematicians gave naming a peculiar twist that reflected their deep religious mysticism and influenced their creativity.

    http://philoctetes.org/news/the_power_of_names_religion_mathematics

    [MORE]

    His 2009 book, Naming Infinity: A True Story of Religious Mysticism and Mathematical Creativity, is well worth reading. If you dig around you can find talks and articles he derived from this interest in naming magic as it constitutes part of some mathematicians’ thinking.

    This is the left’s primary source of power. “Thugs” are renamed “teens,” “dimwits” are renamed “college graduates” (after having gone through a lucrative process of tax-dollar farming or debt-acquisition), “insane people” are renamed “transsexual furries,” and such.

    The game is dominion through creating a new religion of SJW. The left has excelled at dominion through renaming, using the mass media. So much so that the media, as Gregory Hood points out, are the de facto power base in today’s US republic. The example he used last winter: renaming anything a white man ever did in his mating behavior as “assault” or “rape.”

    In theory, democracy is government by the people. But as most people believe simply whatever the System media tells them to believe, democracy is really just government via the media. Politicians and statesman are essentially interchangeable. Culture, tradition, and kinship are far less significant in the calculations of power than who controls the television networks, the major Internet providers, and the key online institutions such as YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and PayPal.

    …Most journalism, as it is practiced, is not any kind of a check on power, but an attempt to defend power by identifying dissidents and waging Alinksy-style campaigns of personal destruction against them. Dissenters are fired, deplatformed, and socially isolated in the name of “democracy.” Because this power is not exclusively exercised through state institutions (through it is certainly empowered by “civil rights” laws and the abolition of free association), even well-meaning Americans have trouble identifying it as tyrannical, instead simply dismissing it as the “free market in action.”

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/12/the-great-alabama-shit-test/

    That quote deftly sums up what is happening at The Evergreen State College. Though the renaming is “equity.” Not “democracy.” And the tyrant is an uber-cuck Boomer repeating 1970s talking points from Penn’s sociology department to work the will of the board of trustees (a passel of SJW priests in their own right). And why not? It’s been a lucrative ride. For him. A guy who can’t even fix his own fireplace.

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    Confucius was ahead of his time:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectification_of_names
    , @Chrisnonymous
    That was 2016? Seems like yesterday. The Trumpening has absorbed two years of my life!!
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  55. hyperbola says:
    @Ibound1
    Your full genetic profile will, in the future, be completely accessible to you doctors (and any prospective spouse). Only employers will be forbidden to see it at pain of death probably. For employers and governments the old categories will be used for much longer - because the plaintiffs’ lawyers need them to file claims at the EEOC. And the EEOC needs them to have something to do.

    Of course that genetic profile will be mostly useless for anything more than the 1% of “rare” diseases that are usually fatal.

    Personalized medicine, intelligence asnalysis and all other “phenotypes” that are complex will never be interpretable (although many “genes” will be sold to the gullible).

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  56. J1234 says:

    Vox might be a bit more convincing if they’d use narrators without valley girls accents. Um…no, actually not. I didn’t watch the last 40 seconds of the video, as it wasn’t going anywhere, so I may have missed something pertinent, but everything I saw to that point focused on the logic of the margins. Using that logic, there’s no such thing as “winter weather” in the upper midwest because there are 70 degree days in late December. There is no such thing as SUV’s because some SUV’s are more like minivans while others are more like farm trucks. We have to acknowledge that there are some elements of social construct in racial categories, but it’s simplistically ignorant to believe that’s all it is.

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  57. hyperbola says:
    @Jack D

    When the medical community links country of origin to health outcomes, it’s really just using where your ancestors came from as a substitute for other factors, such as race.
     
    No, it's just PC doubletalk. "Where your ancestors came from" and "Race" are two names for the same thing.

    For exammple

    When the medical community links country of origin to health outcomes, it’s really just using where your ancestors came from (e.g. Africa) as a substitute for other factors, such as race (e.g. African).

    Does your tribe come from eastern Europe or from the mideast?

    Present-day Lebanese descend from Biblical Canaanites, genetic study suggests

    https://phys.org/news/2017-07-present-day-lebanese-descend-biblical-canaanites.html

    Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European

    https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html

    ….. All told, more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to Europe, with only a few lineages originating in the Near East….

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    Ashkenazi Jews are European but not Eastern European. I wish that they could have found a safe home in their native continent of Europe but their fellow Europeans didn't want them there. The sign of the true anti-Semite is that he doesn't want the Jews to be ANYWHERE - not in his country and not in their own country. Israel was a last resort after the 2,000 year Diaspora experiment failed catastrophically. Yes, Ashkenazi Jews are about as Middle Eastern as Elizabeth Warren is an Injun' but people will rationalize anything in order to survive. Of course nowadays Israel has lots of (Sephardic) Middle Eastern Jews thanks to their Arab neighbors.
    , @Anonymous Jew
    Last I checked the current literature suggests Ashkenazis are roughly 35-40% Levantine; 35-40% Roman; 20% or so Centeral or Eastern European. Male line is 60-70% Levantine, and the female line is overwhelmingly Roman. So 60-65% White European is fair.

    This comports pretty well with history and how modern Ashkenazi's look. Most look Italian, a minority look like blonde Germans, and a smaller minority could pass for a lighter, non-Muslim Palestinian.

    FYI, I had a Christian Palestinian teacher in college and he could easily pass for Greek. Also know a guy that's half Palestinian half Northern Euro and he doesn't even look Jewish. He just looks like a regular White guy. The Levant was 'browned' following the spread of Islam. Many/most indigenous Levantines look like sun-tanned Greeks, not like the current brown, Palestinian Muslims.
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  58. Jack D says:
    @hyperbola
    Does your tribe come from eastern Europe or from the mideast?

    Present-day Lebanese descend from Biblical Canaanites, genetic study suggests
    https://phys.org/news/2017-07-present-day-lebanese-descend-biblical-canaanites.html

    Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European
    https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
    ..... All told, more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to Europe, with only a few lineages originating in the Near East....

    Ashkenazi Jews are European but not Eastern European. I wish that they could have found a safe home in their native continent of Europe but their fellow Europeans didn’t want them there. The sign of the true anti-Semite is that he doesn’t want the Jews to be ANYWHERE – not in his country and not in their own country. Israel was a last resort after the 2,000 year Diaspora experiment failed catastrophically. Yes, Ashkenazi Jews are about as Middle Eastern as Elizabeth Warren is an Injun’ but people will rationalize anything in order to survive. Of course nowadays Israel has lots of (Sephardic) Middle Eastern Jews thanks to their Arab neighbors.

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  59. @Wilkey
    "If the word race becomes abolished, some other word will take its place. I sense we’re already reaching for that word, even if I don’t know what it’ll be. But what I do know is that in time that word too will have to be abolished."

    Negro -> Colored -> Urban -> Black -> African-American -> Vibrant

    Negro -> Colored -> Urban -> Black -> African-American -> Vibrant

    Is it too late to go back to Coon, Spade, Spook, Nig-nog, or Porch Monkey?

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    "Is it too late to go back to [various racial epithets]"?

    Yes no maybe? I was referring to the change in terms preferred by blacks themselves, not to words deliberately intended to offend them.
    , @Anon87
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IYITxGniww4
    , @MBlanc46
    I know that it’s very, very wicked, but I simply cannot—cannot—restrain myself from adding “jigaboo”. I apologize. I’m truly sorry.
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  60. @hyperbola
    Does your tribe come from eastern Europe or from the mideast?

    Present-day Lebanese descend from Biblical Canaanites, genetic study suggests
    https://phys.org/news/2017-07-present-day-lebanese-descend-biblical-canaanites.html

    Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European
    https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
    ..... All told, more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to Europe, with only a few lineages originating in the Near East....

    Last I checked the current literature suggests Ashkenazis are roughly 35-40% Levantine; 35-40% Roman; 20% or so Centeral or Eastern European. Male line is 60-70% Levantine, and the female line is overwhelmingly Roman. So 60-65% White European is fair.

    This comports pretty well with history and how modern Ashkenazi’s look. Most look Italian, a minority look like blonde Germans, and a smaller minority could pass for a lighter, non-Muslim Palestinian.

    FYI, I had a Christian Palestinian teacher in college and he could easily pass for Greek. Also know a guy that’s half Palestinian half Northern Euro and he doesn’t even look Jewish. He just looks like a regular White guy. The Levant was ‘browned’ following the spread of Islam. Many/most indigenous Levantines look like sun-tanned Greeks, not like the current brown, Palestinian Muslims.

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  61. @J.Ross
    There is a huge and gathering amount of evidence that Elizabeth Bathory was right and "young blood" really does mitigate aging. There are several creepy, ultra-weathy elite people who look solidly middle-aged, but are officially in their seventies and nineties. There's all manner of secrets, scientifically legitimate and otherwise, in boutique medicine for the ultra-rich.
    http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/beauty-news/sandra-bullock-foreskin-facial-596468
    https://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/gloriavanderbiltandersoncooper1.jpg
    Does Gloria Vanderbilt look like she was born in 1924 in this image?
    Bill Gates: "Maybe I won't die."

    She didn’t do the transfusions right.

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  62. Wilkey says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Negro -> Colored -> Urban -> Black -> African-American -> Vibrant
     
    Is it too late to go back to Coon, Spade, Spook, Nig-nog, or Porch Monkey?

    “Is it too late to go back to [various racial epithets]“?

    Yes no maybe? I was referring to the change in terms preferred by blacks themselves, not to words deliberately intended to offend them.

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  63. @J.Ross
    There is a huge and gathering amount of evidence that Elizabeth Bathory was right and "young blood" really does mitigate aging. There are several creepy, ultra-weathy elite people who look solidly middle-aged, but are officially in their seventies and nineties. There's all manner of secrets, scientifically legitimate and otherwise, in boutique medicine for the ultra-rich.
    http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/beauty-news/sandra-bullock-foreskin-facial-596468
    https://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/gloriavanderbiltandersoncooper1.jpg
    Does Gloria Vanderbilt look like she was born in 1924 in this image?
    Bill Gates: "Maybe I won't die."

    That’s a carefully presented and retouched photo. Also, not recent.

    Vanderbilt today pretty much looks like she’s wearing a skin mask:

    http://celebrityabc.net/gloria-vanderbilt-plastic-surgery-before-and-after

    The simple fact that she’s 94 means she’s doing something right, but we’ll have to wait to see if she goes beyond ordinary human lifespan.

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  64. @Mr. Anon
    That video contained a lot of nonsense in only 3 minutes.

    1.) The old standard: Because the boundaries between races are not sharp, there is no such thing as race.

    2.) Because there are individuals whose self-identification changes, there is no such thing as race.

    3.) There is no single gene for race, therefore race does not exist.

    1.) The old standard: Because the boundaries between races are not sharp, there is no such thing as race.

    The boundaries are really quite strikingly sharp.

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  65. @J.Ross
    There is a huge and gathering amount of evidence that Elizabeth Bathory was right and "young blood" really does mitigate aging. There are several creepy, ultra-weathy elite people who look solidly middle-aged, but are officially in their seventies and nineties. There's all manner of secrets, scientifically legitimate and otherwise, in boutique medicine for the ultra-rich.
    http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/beauty-news/sandra-bullock-foreskin-facial-596468
    https://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/gloriavanderbiltandersoncooper1.jpg
    Does Gloria Vanderbilt look like she was born in 1924 in this image?
    Bill Gates: "Maybe I won't die."

    Jagger’s regularly in Zürich, poeple say: For “blood exchange” or – laundry. He fathered one more baby lately.

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  66. @International Jew
    If the word race becomes abolished, some other word will take its place. I sense we're already reaching for that word, even if I don't know what it'll be. But what I do know is that in time that word too will have to be abolished.

    Clade, maybe?

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  67. Philo says:
    @The King is A Fink
    Top tip. Avoid nasty congenital diseases by simply emigrating, since health outcomes are linked to where your ancestors come from.

    That won’t help you, but it might help your descendants (if you emigrate to a genetically healthier region).

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  68. Travis says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    Trump could provide me with endless hours of entertainment if he were to state:
    “I’ve listened to our most esteemed social scientists and academics and agree with their statement that race is myth. Therefore, we will be reforming the census by eliminating all questions related to race.”

    but “ethnicity” would remain and probably expanded to create an “ebonics” or “Black” ethnicity since we cannot eliminate the “hispanic” ethnicity. Would be interesting if “Black” became an ethnic group like hispanic if it restricted the Black ethnic category to those who had deep routes in America and thus exclude Africans from the “Black” ethnic category just as we exclude Spanish Americans from the “hispanic” ethnic category today.

    Will the academics and leftists ever disparage the use of “ethnicity” to describe people and start the narrative that “ethnicity” does not exist ? Will they ever conclude that ancestry does not exist ?

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  69. jim jones says:
    @Olorin
    In 2016, in a comment on our host's reflections on The Guardian calling Boulder, Colorado, the future of America, frequent commenter SPMoore8 wrote:


    The reason these names keep changing is because a word designates an object, and if an object accrues bad associations, then by re-naming the object, it is thought that you remove the bad associations. But the bad associations always come right back, because it is the object, not the word, that is creating the problem. The first person I know to point this out was Schopenhauer, 150 years ago (Section 285a in the Parerga and Paralipomena).

    All social justice re-naming (including the current jihad against “oriental”) is similarly motivated and will require similar re-naming every cycle.
     
    #263, http://www.unz.com/isteve/guardian-americas-future-is-boulder-colorado/

    Others commented as well on the phenomenon, but SP nailed the primitive magic aspect of this habit of SJWs...even while assigning it a too-recent origin. Naming Magic is a well-discussed phenomenon in various fields and has been an observed phenomenon in religion for thousands of years.

    MIT emeritus professor Loren Graham has had one of the most interesting recent takes on it of which I'm aware...though a bit less psychologically perceptive than SP's take:

    A common concept in history is that knowing the name of something or someone gives one power over that thing or person. This concept occurs in many different forms, in numerous cultures—in ancient and primitive tribes, as well as in Islamic, Jewish, Egyptian, Vedic, Hindu, and Christian traditions. The strength of this belief varies, and there are certainly exceptions to it. Nonetheless, the persistence and historical continuity of the linking of naming and power are unmistakable. Some scholars find it embedded in the first verses of Genesis, probably written over three thousand years ago; others believe it to be an intrinsic characteristic of classical Greek religion; still others find it a central feature in magic and folklore; and modern feminists often see it as the reason that a woman in marriage is traditionally asked to take the name of her new husband. In all these cases, naming something or someone is seen as the exertion of dominion over that thing or person. Several twentieth-century mathematicians gave naming a peculiar twist that reflected their deep religious mysticism and influenced their creativity.
     
    http://philoctetes.org/news/the_power_of_names_religion_mathematics

    His 2009 book, Naming Infinity: A True Story of Religious Mysticism and Mathematical Creativity, is well worth reading. If you dig around you can find talks and articles he derived from this interest in naming magic as it constitutes part of some mathematicians' thinking.

    This is the left's primary source of power. "Thugs" are renamed "teens," "dimwits" are renamed "college graduates" (after having gone through a lucrative process of tax-dollar farming or debt-acquisition), "insane people" are renamed "transsexual furries," and such.

    The game is dominion through creating a new religion of SJW. The left has excelled at dominion through renaming, using the mass media. So much so that the media, as Gregory Hood points out, are the de facto power base in today's US republic. The example he used last winter: renaming anything a white man ever did in his mating behavior as "assault" or "rape."

    In theory, democracy is government by the people. But as most people believe simply whatever the System media tells them to believe, democracy is really just government via the media. Politicians and statesman are essentially interchangeable. Culture, tradition, and kinship are far less significant in the calculations of power than who controls the television networks, the major Internet providers, and the key online institutions such as YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and PayPal.

    ...Most journalism, as it is practiced, is not any kind of a check on power, but an attempt to defend power by identifying dissidents and waging Alinksy-style campaigns of personal destruction against them. Dissenters are fired, deplatformed, and socially isolated in the name of “democracy.” Because this power is not exclusively exercised through state institutions (through it is certainly empowered by “civil rights” laws and the abolition of free association), even well-meaning Americans have trouble identifying it as tyrannical, instead simply dismissing it as the “free market in action.”
     
    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/12/the-great-alabama-shit-test/

    That quote deftly sums up what is happening at The Evergreen State College. Though the renaming is "equity." Not "democracy." And the tyrant is an uber-cuck Boomer repeating 1970s talking points from Penn's sociology department to work the will of the board of trustees (a passel of SJW priests in their own right). And why not? It's been a lucrative ride. For him. A guy who can't even fix his own fireplace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfVRaExw1lI&feature=youtu.be&t=4m30s
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  70. Lot says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    Is that Estelle Caswell of Park Slope, Hillary Clinton fan?

    http://nycitylens.com/2015/04/brooklyn-heights-welcomes-hillary-clinton-headquarters-to-the-neighborhood/

    Yes it is.

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  71. @Olorin
    In 2016, in a comment on our host's reflections on The Guardian calling Boulder, Colorado, the future of America, frequent commenter SPMoore8 wrote:


    The reason these names keep changing is because a word designates an object, and if an object accrues bad associations, then by re-naming the object, it is thought that you remove the bad associations. But the bad associations always come right back, because it is the object, not the word, that is creating the problem. The first person I know to point this out was Schopenhauer, 150 years ago (Section 285a in the Parerga and Paralipomena).

    All social justice re-naming (including the current jihad against “oriental”) is similarly motivated and will require similar re-naming every cycle.
     
    #263, http://www.unz.com/isteve/guardian-americas-future-is-boulder-colorado/

    Others commented as well on the phenomenon, but SP nailed the primitive magic aspect of this habit of SJWs...even while assigning it a too-recent origin. Naming Magic is a well-discussed phenomenon in various fields and has been an observed phenomenon in religion for thousands of years.

    MIT emeritus professor Loren Graham has had one of the most interesting recent takes on it of which I'm aware...though a bit less psychologically perceptive than SP's take:

    A common concept in history is that knowing the name of something or someone gives one power over that thing or person. This concept occurs in many different forms, in numerous cultures—in ancient and primitive tribes, as well as in Islamic, Jewish, Egyptian, Vedic, Hindu, and Christian traditions. The strength of this belief varies, and there are certainly exceptions to it. Nonetheless, the persistence and historical continuity of the linking of naming and power are unmistakable. Some scholars find it embedded in the first verses of Genesis, probably written over three thousand years ago; others believe it to be an intrinsic characteristic of classical Greek religion; still others find it a central feature in magic and folklore; and modern feminists often see it as the reason that a woman in marriage is traditionally asked to take the name of her new husband. In all these cases, naming something or someone is seen as the exertion of dominion over that thing or person. Several twentieth-century mathematicians gave naming a peculiar twist that reflected their deep religious mysticism and influenced their creativity.
     
    http://philoctetes.org/news/the_power_of_names_religion_mathematics

    His 2009 book, Naming Infinity: A True Story of Religious Mysticism and Mathematical Creativity, is well worth reading. If you dig around you can find talks and articles he derived from this interest in naming magic as it constitutes part of some mathematicians' thinking.

    This is the left's primary source of power. "Thugs" are renamed "teens," "dimwits" are renamed "college graduates" (after having gone through a lucrative process of tax-dollar farming or debt-acquisition), "insane people" are renamed "transsexual furries," and such.

    The game is dominion through creating a new religion of SJW. The left has excelled at dominion through renaming, using the mass media. So much so that the media, as Gregory Hood points out, are the de facto power base in today's US republic. The example he used last winter: renaming anything a white man ever did in his mating behavior as "assault" or "rape."

    In theory, democracy is government by the people. But as most people believe simply whatever the System media tells them to believe, democracy is really just government via the media. Politicians and statesman are essentially interchangeable. Culture, tradition, and kinship are far less significant in the calculations of power than who controls the television networks, the major Internet providers, and the key online institutions such as YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and PayPal.

    ...Most journalism, as it is practiced, is not any kind of a check on power, but an attempt to defend power by identifying dissidents and waging Alinksy-style campaigns of personal destruction against them. Dissenters are fired, deplatformed, and socially isolated in the name of “democracy.” Because this power is not exclusively exercised through state institutions (through it is certainly empowered by “civil rights” laws and the abolition of free association), even well-meaning Americans have trouble identifying it as tyrannical, instead simply dismissing it as the “free market in action.”
     
    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/12/the-great-alabama-shit-test/

    That quote deftly sums up what is happening at The Evergreen State College. Though the renaming is "equity." Not "democracy." And the tyrant is an uber-cuck Boomer repeating 1970s talking points from Penn's sociology department to work the will of the board of trustees (a passel of SJW priests in their own right). And why not? It's been a lucrative ride. For him. A guy who can't even fix his own fireplace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfVRaExw1lI&feature=youtu.be&t=4m30s

    That was 2016? Seems like yesterday. The Trumpening has absorbed two years of my life!!

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  72. @J.Ross
    There is a huge and gathering amount of evidence that Elizabeth Bathory was right and "young blood" really does mitigate aging. There are several creepy, ultra-weathy elite people who look solidly middle-aged, but are officially in their seventies and nineties. There's all manner of secrets, scientifically legitimate and otherwise, in boutique medicine for the ultra-rich.
    http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/beauty-news/sandra-bullock-foreskin-facial-596468
    https://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/gloriavanderbiltandersoncooper1.jpg
    Does Gloria Vanderbilt look like she was born in 1924 in this image?
    Bill Gates: "Maybe I won't die."

    Gloria Vanderbilt was truly gorgeous back in the 40s and 50s. Not so much now. She definitely doesn’t look middle-aged. She’s not doing as well as this woman…

    Take-away?
    Get ye to the gym!

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  73. Slayer says:
    @International Jew
    If the word race becomes abolished, some other word will take its place. I sense we're already reaching for that word, even if I don't know what it'll be. But what I do know is that in time that word too will have to be abolished.

    Ancestry group. Long since replaced in most literature.

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  74. Lot says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    I'd like to use Highlander as my handle, too, but you know what they say...
    "There can be only one!"

    There is a satisfying paradox in combining your first name with anonymous for a username.

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  75. Anon87 says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Negro -> Colored -> Urban -> Black -> African-American -> Vibrant
     
    Is it too late to go back to Coon, Spade, Spook, Nig-nog, or Porch Monkey?

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  76. Dr. Doom says:

    The facts are just hateful.
    Reality is not fair.
    Asking for payment is slavery.
    Work is just not nice.
    Who are you to judge things?
    Why do you not just give up?
    You’ll never get it that way.
    Why should you even try?
    The Government can do it.
    No one needs to help.
    Lets just wait for it to come.
    Its too tiring to do it.

    THE NIHILISM OF HOPE AND CHANGE.

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  77. @Rex Little

    Imagine an immigrant to the US from England, whose grandparents arrived in England from the Caribbean in the 1950s. His ancestors would be considered to come from England
     
    Not if his ancestry was learned from a DNA test, which is what they're talking about here. Those go back a lot further than a couple of generations. Your hypothetical immigrant's 23andme results would show him as some combination of African and Carribean (assuming all four grandparents immigrated from there in the 1950s). England wouldn't show up on the test at all.

    Oh, ok, I assumed that they were operating on the ‘race is only a construct’ theory, and that people were self identifying as ‘I come from England’. Thanks for the clarification, you are right.

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  78. @Anonymous
    Cline

    Only some group differences are clinal, though. Most cluster by shared ancestry.

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  79. MBlanc46 says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Negro -> Colored -> Urban -> Black -> African-American -> Vibrant
     
    Is it too late to go back to Coon, Spade, Spook, Nig-nog, or Porch Monkey?

    I know that it’s very, very wicked, but I simply cannot—cannot—restrain myself from adding “jigaboo”. I apologize. I’m truly sorry.

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