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In Sabrina Rubin Erdely’s telling in Rolling Stone, with its four instances of glass shattering, every night on fraternity row at the University of Virginia is a cross between Kristallnacht in Nazi Germany and the Cossack pogrom that provides Fiddler on the Roof with its punchy last scene before intermission.

Not surprisingly, her cliched hate fantasies about the “overwhelmingly blond” students were quickly turned into reality by some of her readers on this supposedly deeply conservative campus.

From the Washington Times:

Unpunished vandalism rampage inspired by Rolling Stone’s U.Va. rape story

Student activist who led vandalism attack on Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house says he has no regrets

By Jeffrey Scott Shapiro – The Washington Times – Sunday, December 21, 2014

In the wee morning hours after Rolling Stone’s now-retracted gang rape story roiled the University of Virginia campus, a masked group of five women and three men unleashed their fury on the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house at the center of the controversy.

Bottles and bricks were tossed through nearly every first-floor window, sending shards of glass and crashing sounds into the house around 2:30 a.m. on Nov. 20.

Profane, hate messages such as “F—k Boys” were spray-painted on the walls of the colonial facade, along with anti-sexual assault epithets such as “suspend us,” and “UVA Center for Rape Studies.”

The Charlottesville, Virginia, police blotter unmistakably describes the attack as a crime. “Vandalism and destruction of property,” it reads.

Felony charges also could be attached because the crime involved throwing dangerous objects into a private dwelling and because the damage may total over $1,000. It’s unclear how many fraternity brothers were in the house at the time.

Yet more than a month after the attack, no arrests have been made and no charges have been filed. The fraternity house, its shattered windows now boarded with plywood, remains vacant. Like the Ferguson riots, there has been little accountability for those who perpetrated violence in the name of protest.

Police and prosecutors declined to say whether or when they might make arrests in the attack on the fraternity house.

Yet finding a student willing to admit his or her role as well as eyewitnesses who saw the group conduct the attack was relatively easy for a Washington Times reporter who spent two days on campus. After all, a witness who found a cellphone at the scene he believed belonged to a perpetrator gave the device to police.

The witness, who spoke to The Times only on the condition of anonymity because of fears of retaliation, said the cellphone had a text message from a second person he believed also participated in the attack. “That was exhilarating,” the message said.

After finding witnesses, cellphone information and social media postings bragging about the attack, The Times tracked down a male student identified by witnesses as a possible leader of the attack. The student agreed to talk to The Times only on the condition that his name wasn’t published, saying he didn’t want police to find him.

The young man, the progeny of a privileged family, readily and unrepentantly admitted his role and described the attack his friends carried out in details that match police and eyewitness reports. He also said he knew his actions would be considered illegal.

“I texted one of my friends and I was like, ‘Let’s throw bottles at the Phi Psi house tonight,’ and she said, ‘Yes!’ I think that the article made it clear that victims at the university have no legitimate channels to take action, and I think vandalism is a completely legitimate form of action when like, legitimate authority is corrupt. I think it was justified,” he said in an interview with The Times. …

“I’ve done some thinking about that, but the answer is no. Everyone knows this is a house that does not respect women. They are part of the problem, and I do not feel bad. We have an objective set of laws that empowers the police to kill black men with impunity and protects white rapists at U.Va. from prosecution. The laws are only legitimate when they work. This is not a particularly radical campus, but we’re mad. …

Those views, he said were supported by the textbooks issued at U.Va., which he described as “tools for understanding” oppression.

This was an obvious hate crime on campus, not the usual hoax.

There’s a widespread pattern in modern America where the culturally dominant project their worst characteristics onto their victims. Once you start looking for it, it pops up all over the place.

 
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  1. Like I said, the revolt of the elite. They’re not going to take uppity middle class White guys anymore. PC/Diversity/Feminism and other cultural marxism is just elitist class warfare against the middle and working class White population.

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    Elite Marxism as Cultural Warfare Against the Lower Classes

    Write it dude.
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  2. If you don’t like it, GO BACK!!!!

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  3. Lesson #1.

    Never apologize to people who never apologize.

    Cons need to know that.

    PS. We now know how Palestinians feel.

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  4. I would ordinarily love to see a houseful of frat-boy douchebags get their comeuppance, but I really would prefer a “Revenge of the Nerds”-style humiliation rather than felony vandalism.

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    I would ordinarily love to see a houseful of frat-boy douchebags get their comeuppance
     
    Mr. Mongo, the frat boys aren't the douchebags here. Not even close.
    , @Danindc
    Unlikely they're douchebags. Probably pussy boys cowed by pc feminism. You definitely didn't make the cut though...
    , @Polynices
    That sort of bigotry is part of the problem, mongo. You can't decry lefty assholes attacking people for who they are if you're going to turn around and hate frat boys just because of some personal issues you have.
    , @SFG
    Yeah, I'm with you. I always had the traditional resentment of beta males for alpha males (also known as the geek-jock split), but the feminists are so nasty they've made me root for the jocks. Which I would never thought possible 15 years ago.
    , @Udolpho
    Steve, you really need something like a "goonsay" emote for posts like this.
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  5. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:

    America where rules are rigged.

    The dynamics of the conflict:

    White cons are wrong even when they are right, and their enemies(led by Jews) are right even when they’re wrong.

    American political discourse isn’t based on objectivity, balance, or fairness but on the assumption that whites(especially white males) are guilty of everything and others(esp Jews, homos, and Negroes) are always innocent or justified even when guilty of the crime(due to legacy of past injustice).

    It’s not about figuring our who is guilty and who is innocent but about declaring whites(esp males) guilty and pressuring them to repent. If whites prove that they are innocent in a particular case, the PC police moves on to the next case since the assumption always remains the same: whites are guilty and always guilty, therefore we must smoke out their guilt.

    Whites may prove themselves innocent case by case but they are deemed guilty overall and eternally. So, whites can only be innocent in the particular sense but never in the general sense, by which they are guilty for all time.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The fraternity chapter that owns the vandalized house has had Jewish members, including Eric Cantor's sons. Sabrina Rubin Erdely is not a spokeswoman for all American Jews except in your fevered imagination.
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  6. I favor a “Revenge On The Nerds” – style humiliation.

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  7. @Anonymous
    I would ordinarily love to see a houseful of frat-boy douchebags get their comeuppance, but I really would prefer a "Revenge of the Nerds"-style humiliation rather than felony vandalism.

    I would ordinarily love to see a houseful of frat-boy douchebags get their comeuppance

    Mr. Mongo, the frat boys aren’t the douchebags here. Not even close.

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  8. I was surprised at the Allan Dershowitz comments. What is with that? it seems uncharacteristic. Is something happening?

    “Alan Dershowitz, one of the nation’s premier defense lawyers and a Harvard law professor, told The Times that university displays of double-standards in excusing violence from the political left and failing to punish activities such as attacks on fraternity houses can have dangerous consequences.

    “Look at people like [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn, who were violent radicals in the 1970s who now hold distinguished positions of respect [at universities]. It’s clearly a left-right issue. No one would reward the Ku Klux Klan decades after their acts of violence, but if violence is committed by the hard left, then it becomes acceptable in the academic context,” Mr. Dershowitz told The Washington Times.

    Mr. Dershowitz also said the mentality expressed by the student who claims to have participated in the fraternity house attack also should raise alarm.

    “It’s the notion of collective punishment; you punish an entire fraternity for the allegations of several people, and you take the law into your own hands, and it’s a total violation to the notion that punishment should be based on proof of individual guilt,” he said. “It’s become a mantra of the radical left, whether it’s about punishing all policemen for Ferguson or all fraternity persons for alleged rapes. It’s a road to lawlessness.

    This seems like a change of heart to me. I am not an expert in Allan Dershowitz but ‘collective punishment’ and ‘collective guilt’ and collective anything seemed to be dear to the heart of rhetoricians of his persuasion. Is something going on? Is there a change in the offing?

    I would also bring up the idea that collective guilt is pretty indiscriminate once the mob gets its drooling head on tight. These self righteous twits chucking stones at the Phi Psi house will find themselves on the wrong end of that collective guilt once they get their prayers answered and YT is no longer in control. When that day comes it will be like the Russians entering Nemmesdorf in 1945. Or Louis CK’s prediction(at 1:35) will be proven correct because there will be absolutely no discrimination. It will be mindless and forever and collective.

    Yeah Louis is a pc ass kisser but you don’t get a cable show by taking a bold stand.

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    " All this “progressive” whining has nothing to do with “oppression” from white men–there is no such oppression. It’s about the will to power in order to keep *looting* white men. "

    Well said, Another Dad.

    Without white men there's no one to pay the bills.

    For ages I've been saying that secession is the only answer to a number of problems.
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  9. @Anonymous
    I would ordinarily love to see a houseful of frat-boy douchebags get their comeuppance, but I really would prefer a "Revenge of the Nerds"-style humiliation rather than felony vandalism.

    Unlikely they’re douchebags. Probably pussy boys cowed by pc feminism. You definitely didn’t make the cut though…

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  10. The names of these douchebags will eventually get out and payback’s a bitch.

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  11. One thing he says is correct–we do have corrupt elites. You can bet the university will make no effort to sanction him for being a thug, nor to Jackie for spreading her false allegations.

    ~~~

    One thing i’d like to see conservatives\traditionalists\freedom-lovers\patriots\citizenists\nationalists\white people do is explicitly talk about succession.

    Not because succession is going to happen, but because it helps expose this leftist fraud.

    All this “progressive” whining has nothing to do with “oppression” from white men–there is no such oppression. It’s about the will to power in order to keep *looting* white men.

    The Democrat party\coalition–is the high-low rent-seeking coalition of parasites. You can bet the “prominent family” that raised this story’s pompous little thug aren’t farming, or in business producing anything but lawyers or lobbyists sucking off the public teat. And i have zero desire to share a country with this scum.

    Their narrative is “boy\girl would it be great without those evil white men!”.

    We should say … “great! … we’ll take you up on it!”.

    All those who want a country where (for example)
    — it’s your fault if you get shot when you rush a cop after punching him in the head and struggling for his gun
    — rape has to actually happen to deserve penalty; and is not morning after (or months after, when he has a new girlfriend) regret but actual on the spot refusal and resistance
    — women are not entitled to pop out babies sans husband and ask the taxpayers to pay for\subsidized their upbringing; (Yes, you *are* responsible for your body.)
    — we have a constitution that enforces limited government power (federalism, separation of powers, etc.)
    — we have a border
    — and the nation is run for the benefit of its citizens
    … all of you come with us.

    And all you progressives … go setup your pale-penis-people free utopia. We wish you luck!

    We’ve been abused by these parasites long enough.

    It’s time to stop the ideological beatings and actual looting and say enough. “You think we’re oppressing you–fine, no problem, let’s split!”

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  12. @Anonymous
    I would ordinarily love to see a houseful of frat-boy douchebags get their comeuppance, but I really would prefer a "Revenge of the Nerds"-style humiliation rather than felony vandalism.

    That sort of bigotry is part of the problem, mongo. You can’t decry lefty assholes attacking people for who they are if you’re going to turn around and hate frat boys just because of some personal issues you have.

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  13. Like I said, the revolt of the elite. They’re not going to take uppity middle class White guys anymore. PC/Diversity/Feminism and other cultural marxism is just elitist class warfare against the middle and working class White population.

    No one really argues with you that the elite hate white guys and use feminism and cultural marxism to wage war. We just have a difference of opinion with you concerning who that elite is, or who comprises a disproportionate chunk of it. A topic you either refuse to discuss, or lay blame at the feet of prole white women.

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    We just have a difference of opinion with you concerning who that elite is…
     
    ISteve comments readers will know that the usual suspects are those Jewish Yankee plutocrats. I can't name any off the top of my head, but that just goes to show how successfully they've concealed themselves.
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  14. “Profane, hate messages such as “F—k Boys” were spray-painted on the walls of the colonial facade, along with anti-sexual assault epithets such as “suspend us,” and “UVA Center for Rape Studies.”

    They should have spray painted “Fuck Blond Boys” instead of just “Fuck Boys”. Jackie’s fake non existent rapists all resemble the Norwegian national football team.

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    Is "F—k Boys" really meant to be an insult or just another projection of the students' sexual fantasies, like Jackie's story?
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  15. If they’d have been black then they would have looted the place before torching it. Everybody in this case seems to be extremely wimpy.

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  16. “I can do it, but you can’t! Na-na-na-na-na!” is the message.

    When the kids flocked into the offices in the 90s determined to wage war against sexual harassment and homophobia, the same dynamic prevailed.

    The gay guys would rat you out if you posted a slightly revealing pic of your wife or girlfriend in your cube, but they posted pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas prancing about on their vacation to Provincetown.

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.

    This tactic is called “rubbing it in.”

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    I think I'd let her rub it in if she's gonna do it in that manner.
    , @Abe

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.
     
    You should have very conspicuously taken out heavy duty yellow latex gloves, a calzone-sized sponge, and a spray bottle of clorox and proceeded to thoroughly clean off the top of your desk after she got off. This was in the 90's you said, so you couldn't have gotten in trouble for micro-aggression.

    Reframing. It's not just what's for dinner.
    , @josh
    The tactic leading to "rubbing one out."
    , @val
    DNA Turtles thinks you imagined that last part.
    , @anon

    She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.
     
    The horror! I HATE when hot chicks do this. I trust you feigned outrage in the hope she would continue and perhaps escalate???
    , @namae nanka

    By the end of his essay Rothbard cut to the real motive of the feminists: the campus date-rape campaigns of the early 1990s weren't motivated by a genuine concern for the well-being of women. They were part of an ongoing attempt to delegitimize heterosexuality to young, impressionable women by demonizing men as rapists.

    The only point I'd add is that the regulations the feminists were proposing applied only to men, not to the hordes of lecherous dikes teaching in "Wymyn's Studies" departments whose most prized occupational perk is brazen sexual harassment of young women with complete impunity.
     
    - Feminism's Third Wave, Angela Fiori
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  17. Is Whiskey Internet pouting?

    I never thought I’d see the day.

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  18. “Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.” – George Orwell

    Our world is run by people who read “1984 “and thought it was a how-to guide rather than a cautionary tale.

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  19. By Jeffrey Scott Shapiro – The Washington Times

    Any relation to the other reporter named Shapiro covering the same story for the WaPo? Maybe we’d get a wider variety of “perspectives” in this country if the reporters were not all drawn from the same tiny subset of people.

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    It's unlikely that the two reporters are related. Shapiro is a common Ashkenazi surname, and most Ashkenazi Jews who share a common surname are unrelated. Ashkenazi Jews have only had surnames for 200-250 years, and the common surnames were often adopted by unrelated families in multiple locations throughout Eastern Europe.
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  20. The vandals’ rich parents will get the vandals off. Then the vandals will put their vandalism on their résumés, which will gain them entrée to the burgeoning, well-paid Social Justice Police hierarchy of “human resources” and Diversity Commissar positions.

    Welcome to what’s left of what used to be our country.

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  22. Most of the motivation here is jealousy. They think the frat boys are having all the fun and not taking serious courses such as gender studies.

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  23. “The witness, who spoke to The Times only on the condition of anonymity because of fears of retaliation”
    Pussy.

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  24. @Shouting Thomas
    "I can do it, but you can't! Na-na-na-na-na!" is the message.

    When the kids flocked into the offices in the 90s determined to wage war against sexual harassment and homophobia, the same dynamic prevailed.

    The gay guys would rat you out if you posted a slightly revealing pic of your wife or girlfriend in your cube, but they posted pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas prancing about on their vacation to Provincetown.

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.

    This tactic is called "rubbing it in."

    I think I’d let her rub it in if she’s gonna do it in that manner.

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  25. Was this the beneficial discussion that made it all worth it?

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  26. @Jefferson
    "Profane, hate messages such as “F—k Boys” were spray-painted on the walls of the colonial facade, along with anti-sexual assault epithets such as “suspend us,” and “UVA Center for Rape Studies.”

    They should have spray painted "Fuck Blond Boys" instead of just "Fuck Boys". Jackie's fake non existent rapists all resemble the Norwegian national football team.

    Is “F—k Boys” really meant to be an insult or just another projection of the students’ sexual fantasies, like Jackie’s story?

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    Is “F—k Boys” really meant to be an insult or just another projection of the students’ sexual fantasies, like Jackie’s story?
     
    It reminds me of the hoax at Vassar last fall in which the hoaxer (the student member of the Bias Incident Response Team) thought messages like "avoid being bitches" could credibly be attributed to normal people.
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  27. This calliope of insanity needs a theme song.

    “You were the sweetest thing that I ever knew
    But I don’t care for sugar honey if I can’t have you
    Since you’ve abandoned me
    My whole life has crashed
    Won’t you pick the pieces up
    ’cause it feels just like I’m walking on broken glass

    Walking on walking on broken glass”

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  28. I think that the article made it clear that victims at the university have no legitimate channels to take action, and I think vandalism is a completely legitimate form of action when like, legitimate authority is corrupt.

    This is a profound insight into the dynamics of the left. The university generously gave Jackie some legitimate channels for addressing her lack of validation. If they hadn’t encouraged her to cultivate a sense of victimhood, perhaps nothing would have happened. But because they gave an inch, she was encouraged to spread her lies further, and these vandals took a mile. If she’s welcome in the rape survivor group, she must be a rape survivor, and that must mean the university isn’t taking the crime seriously enough — why won’t they take action when they’re already willing to admit something terrible happened by helping her cope? Likewise, Obama can signal his vague approval of the impulses underlying the insanity in Ferguson, and follow up by saying if he were you, he wouldn’t burn down the QuikTrip or anything rash like that. It’s precisely the “corrupt” authorities who are affirming that there’s some grave injustice out there that they are unable or unwilling to fight, and that’s where the mob steps in, chanting buzzwords from authority-issued textbooks.

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  29. Anyone who watched the Charlottesville police chief during the Jesse Matthew affair knows this guy should probably be wearing an ice cream truck drivers uniform rather than a police uniform. It was only outside pressure ( and tips ) that got this pantywaist off his butt and forced him to arrest a local black who had been preying on coeds for years right under his nose. Of course he is probably just what the city of Charlottesville wants and deserves as a police chief… a cream faced loon who melts under any pressure.

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  30. @Anonymous
    I would ordinarily love to see a houseful of frat-boy douchebags get their comeuppance, but I really would prefer a "Revenge of the Nerds"-style humiliation rather than felony vandalism.

    Yeah, I’m with you. I always had the traditional resentment of beta males for alpha males (also known as the geek-jock split), but the feminists are so nasty they’ve made me root for the jocks. Which I would never thought possible 15 years ago.

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  31. But anyway, Glassghazi is old news! Now Columbia is to U.Va. as Garner is to Brown. When one sensational story falls apart, you dig up an older, more plausible story that you ignored the first time around, and put it in the spotlight instead. If the academic birthplace of cultural Marxism doesn’t take rape seriously, you know you’ve got a national crisis on your hands.

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  32. Oh, and BTW: nobody calls out the ethnic background of this fellow Shapiro for doing the *right* thing and calling attention to this act of vandalism? You only notice people are Jewish when they do something you don’t like, a la Sabrina Rubin Erdely?

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    Oh, and BTW: nobody calls out the ethnic background of this fellow Shapiro for doing the *right* thing and calling attention to this act of vandalism? You only notice people are Jewish when they do something you don’t like, a la Sabrina Rubin Erdely?

    Erdely is quite plausibly motivated by anti-gentile animus. That makes her Jewishness relevant. What makes Shapiro's Jewishness relevant? Shall we start putting little Star-of-David icons beside all Jewish names like some pedantic Nazi-era bureaucrat?
    , @Anonym
    Just because he has the last name Shapiro doesn't mean he's Jewish.

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    lol

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  33. I guess the “folks” in charge at UVA and Charlottesville don’t subscribe to the broken windows theory for controlling crime and creating a nice environment.

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    Real glass in the windows and not the sugar version that Hollywood uses to avoid injuring the actors.
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  34. Bottles and bricks were tossed through nearly every first-floor window, sending shards of glass and crashing sounds into the house around 2:30 a.m. on Nov. 20.

    What???!!!!

    Why is this the first time I am seeing this reported?

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  35. I hope the perpetrators of this vandalism are quickly exposed and brought before administrators for punishment. The fact that almost half the participants in this direct action on behalf of women’s rights were men is disgusting and unacceptable. We must recenter the va-jay-jay in the women’s rights movement!

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  36. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Whiskey:
    “Like I said, the revolt of the elite. They’re not going to take uppity middle class White guys anymore. PC/Diversity/Feminism and other cultural marxism is just elitist class warfare against the middle and working class White population.”

    It’s beginning to seem as though affirmative action, feminism, welcoming and encouraging the very bright and hard-working elites from China and India, and shipping working class jobs overseas, and illegal/large-scale immigration are having the effect of diminishing career opportunities at all levels for white men.

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  37. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties. This tactic is called “rubbing it in.”

    I hope you waited until after she departed before rubbing it in.

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  38. @Shouting Thomas
    "I can do it, but you can't! Na-na-na-na-na!" is the message.

    When the kids flocked into the offices in the 90s determined to wage war against sexual harassment and homophobia, the same dynamic prevailed.

    The gay guys would rat you out if you posted a slightly revealing pic of your wife or girlfriend in your cube, but they posted pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas prancing about on their vacation to Provincetown.

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.

    This tactic is called "rubbing it in."

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.

    You should have very conspicuously taken out heavy duty yellow latex gloves, a calzone-sized sponge, and a spray bottle of clorox and proceeded to thoroughly clean off the top of your desk after she got off. This was in the 90′s you said, so you couldn’t have gotten in trouble for micro-aggression.

    Reframing. It’s not just what’s for dinner.

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    You should have very conspicuously taken out heavy duty yellow latex gloves, a calzone-sized sponge, and a spray bottle of clorox and proceeded to thoroughly clean off the top of your desk after she got off. This was in the 90′s you said, so you couldn’t have gotten in trouble for micro-aggression.
     
    Better if he did it right there then. "Would you please excuse me and step off the desk for one moment? Then start spraying. He wouldn't want to confuse the woman into believing that he cleaned the desk to be more welcoming of her (for her cleanliness and comfort) the next time.

    Too aggressive?

    Of course, at one time in the 90's I worked as a defense contractor, and this was a place where it was common for executives to sleep with their "admins" (secretaries).

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  39. Sorry to rain on the parade, but Steve has no reason to believe that sre’s Jewishness has anything to do with her article. What’s the Jewish connection here? Do frats support bds? Do Jews have any reason to resent Frats? From what I hear a lot of Jews are fraternity members. Occam’s razor would indicate that sre is motivated by the same thing that motivates scores of other feminists crusaders: a delusional belief that college campuses are filled with rapists and an uncompromising hostility to all male clubs.

    FYI, if Steve reads the Jewish press he knows that Putin is regarded as good for the Jews. He would also know that Israel has remained neutral on Ukraine, in order not to endanger the situation of eastern European Jews. Obviously Jews are interested in what’s good for the Jews; however, not every issue has a Jewish angle.

    Similarly, not every action taken by a Jew involves what’s good for the Jews. Is it that hard to imagine that Sabrina Rubin Erdely really is a hardcore feminist?

    BTW, I haven’t seen Steve Sailor criticize Stephen Cohen for his Putin apologetics. After all, Stephen Cohen keeps talking about the anti-Semites among the Ukrainian nationalists. Sailor won’t attribute this to Jewish paranoia because of his reflexive pro-Putin contrarianism, (the neocons say Putin is bad, so Putin must be good).

    -bensday

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    Sorry to rain on the parade, but Steve has no reason to believe that sre’s Jewishness has anything to do with her article. What’s the Jewish connection here?

    Is this deliberate obfuscation? Or are you really that naive?
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  40. There’s a widespread pattern in modern America where the culturally dominant project their worst characteristics onto their victims.

    It’s egomorphism (ascribing one’s own characteristics to others). And it goes both ways. The good guys presume their opponents are like them and that they are playing by the same rules. That’s why the good guys keep losing.

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  41. These jokers should be arrested and booted out of school. If a Washington Times reporter can figure this out in a couple of days, then surely the cops can.

    That said, this doesn’t really look good for the frat. My thought when this story first broke was that the frat was remaining silent because something might have happened there that night, just not what was reported. Now that we know that nothing happened, why were these frat boys not loudly proclaiming their innocence from the highest rooftop? Also, why didn’t they stay there and protect their property? They should have grabbed baseball bats and ringed the house and dared the PC mob to try something.

    And why is the house still empty? Is that part of the University ban on frats? Or a ban on this frat? I would think the University could ban activities but couldn’t keep people from living there, as that is some people’s home. If the house being empty isn’t part of the ban, then that looks bad also. It makes the frat boys look weak and afraid. They should march back into their house proudly and dare anyone to try to stop them.

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    That said, this doesn’t really look good for the frat. My thought when this story first broke was that the frat was remaining silent because something might have happened there that night, just not what was reported. Now that we know that nothing happened, why were these frat boys not loudly proclaiming their innocence from the highest rooftop?
     
    First, no one was accused of anything.

    Second, what are they supposed to do -- buy the NYT? They have no access to the megaphone.
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  42. […] Sailer has a post up about the PC creeps who vandalized the Phi Psi frat house at UVA following the release of the Rolling Stone hoax gang […]

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  43. Tempted to think the Frat will do something and bring the culprits to justice but I doubt it. We’ve been down this road before. The Frat is probably full of well-fed, comfortable, Republicans and moderate Democrats who just want to party and do a little networking before they graduate to their comfortable middle-class jobs.

    So, they’ll just lay low, put up with Left-wing vandalism, or fold up their tent. They won’t fight.

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  45. @Shouting Thomas
    "I can do it, but you can't! Na-na-na-na-na!" is the message.

    When the kids flocked into the offices in the 90s determined to wage war against sexual harassment and homophobia, the same dynamic prevailed.

    The gay guys would rat you out if you posted a slightly revealing pic of your wife or girlfriend in your cube, but they posted pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas prancing about on their vacation to Provincetown.

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.

    This tactic is called "rubbing it in."

    The tactic leading to “rubbing one out.”

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  46. Off-topic fun stuff from the Sony hack:

    I freaking promise you that whatever debate over current events you get trapped in this holiday season will not be as bad as a reply-all chain argument about the Gaza Strip, featuring Russell Simmons, sent to Natalie Portman, Scarlett Johansson, and Ryan Seacrest. And I can promise you that because I have seen one.

    Imagine being forced to listen to other people discuss the following question: “Is the Gaza War Really Over?”

    Now imagine those people include Def Jam founder Russell Simmons, baby-resembling GOP talking point-scribbler Frank Luntz, producer Ryan Kavanaugh, former NBC and Universal co-chair Ben Silverman, actresses Scarlett Johansson and Natalie Portman, at least three rabbis, and, of course Ryan Seacrest.

    Thanks to emails included in the recent Sony mega-dump, you don’t have to use your imagination:

    On Aug 29, 2014, at 1:29 PM, “Ryan Kavanaugh” wrote:

    The problem is that Moore ‘ law is kicking in. Before the summer 50 percent of college students supported israel, today less the 25 percent do. There are hate crimes against heed happening in almost every major metropolitan city, now including the US.

    We have let this happen. And it’s our job to keep another Hollacast from happening. Many of you may think that can’t happen, that is extreme. My Grandmother told me over and over again remember no one believed it could happen and everyone thought the government would not allow it to. It took 5 years before the us stepped in, and 12 million dead.

    If you pull newspapers from pre Hollacast it seems eerily close to our world today.

    Kavanaugh, the CEO of Relativity Media and executive producer of The Social Network, was responding here to an email sent by Canadian Bacon producer Ron Rotholz, who, like Kavanaugh, has the habit of forwarding urgent articles about anti-Semitism and Israel to a circle of colleagues and friends. (More than a dozen such forwards that can be located in the inbox of Sony Entertainment CEO Michael Lynton, who seems to mostly ignore them.)

    A few weeks before sending the email, Kavanaugh, an outspoken supporter of Israel, had become the first major studio head to denounce a letter, signed by actors Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz, that condemned the Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip. He later wrote an editorial for The Hollywood Reporter calling for the film industry to stand with Israel against Palestine.

    Kavanaugh and Rotholz’s forwarding habits were irritating enough to Portman that she’d previously asked Kavanaugh to remove her from the list: “you should not be copying me publicly so that 20 people i don’t know have my personal info,” she admonished the producer. “i will have to change my email address now.”

    “Sorry,” he replied. “You are right jews being slaughtered for their beliefs and cannes members calling for the boycott of anything Israel or Jewish is much much less important then your email address being shared with 20 of our peers who are trying to make a difference. my deepest apologies.” (Grimace emoji.)

    Despite Portman’s entreaties to Kavanaugh, Rotholz seems not to have gotten the message. On the 28, he sent out an editorial from Bush U.N. ambassador John Bolton’s think tank called “Is the Gaza War Really Over?” to a list including Portman (an Israeli-American dual citizen who’d recently shot a film in the country), Johansson (who’s faced criticism for endorsing the Israeli company Sodastream), Seacrest (????), and, yes, Russell Simmons, who answered the Kavanaugh email quoted above with the most Russell Simmons reply you can fathom:

    From: Russell Simmons

    Date:08/29/2014 1:56 PM (GMT-08:00)

    To: Ryan Kavanaugh

    Cc: Glenn Feig , Mark Canton , “Silverman, Ben” , Ron Rotholz , [Joel Mowbray], Amy Pascal , Jon Feltheimer , Jim Gianopulos , Ron Meyer , [David Seigal], Ryan Seacrest , Russell Simmons , Bart Rosenblatt , Jason Binn , Meir Teper , Gianni Nunnari , Jack Rapke , Roger Birnbaum , Jonathan Brandstein , Patrick Whitesell , Cassian Elwes , Beau Flynn , Geyer Kosinski , John Burnham , Solomon Courtney , Rabbi Marc Schneier , Ken Sunshine , Natalie Portman , Scarlett Johansson , [George Perez], Rabbi Steven Leder , Rabbi Marvin Hier , Elliot Brandt , Frank Luntz , David Shane , [Kobi Marom]

    Subject: Re: Is the Gaza War Really Over?

    Simple messaging from non Jews specifically from Muslims promoting peace and Israel’s right to exist. Should be spread. (Possibly using statements from Hamas leadership in this branding exercise) could be a unifying force. U have ken sunshine on the chain. We have resources and the desire to win rather then loose the hearts of young Muslims and Jews. Our love for innocent suffering Palestinians must be a strong part of our messaging.

    With great love all things are possible

    (Simmons’ suggestion is close to the hilarious one that former Time editor and current Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Rick Stengel posed to Lynton in a separate email a week or two later: “My question is, who is the Muslim Bob Geldof? What if there were a Muslim Anti-ISIL We Are the World video/concert? It could have Muslim artists from all over the world plus hip hop stars.”)

    I’ll spare you the rest of the aimless debate over peace in the Middle East and Israeli self-defense—which took place entirely between Kavanaugh, Simmons, Rotholz and not a single other member of the 39-strong reply-all group. All you need to see to know how it felt is Portman’s final appeal to Lynton and his wife Jamie:

    The Natalie Portman-Ryan Seacrest Gaza Strip Reply-All Chain from Hell

    Lynton replies, simply: “this is nuts.”

    http://gawker.com/the-natalie-portman-ryan-seacrest-gaza-strip-reply-all-1674694296/all

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  47. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    When some American burned the Koran, he was accused of setting off the violence in Benghazi. The administration dumped all the blame on him.

    But when Hollywood makes a movie about assassinating a leader of another nation, it’s A-okay and all the blame falls on the other nation for ‘terrorism’.

    Strange logic here. But there is no logic in foreign policy.

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  48. Girls will quickly turn on other girls. Keep the pressure on. Someone will eventually reveal who was responsible for the vandalism.

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  49. Black lives didn’t matter to these guys:

    http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/2014/12/22/delta-employee-accused-of-smuggling-illegal-guns-on-flight-from-atlanta/20793749/

    Big news in NYC. I saw a police official, probably Irish, at a presser, speaking about it. With tears coming out of his eyes he said that this operation was responsible for “genocide” on the streets of Brooklyn. Yep, “genocide.”

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  50. What is with this “frat boy douchebag” meme? Guys who go to frats are probably on average in the top quintile of husband/father material. I never went to a frat, but my mother’s brothers did, and they are all successful, wealthy professionals still married to their first wives. They even go to church every weekend and put up with the gratuitous man-shaming harangues that characterize contemporary Christianity. Most women would be damned lucky to marry those types of guys.

    You want real douchebags? Check out the NAM underclass, and even the white working class.

    So many overeducated people hating on frat boys don’t have a clue what it’s like living with the 60%+ of Americans who don’t do 4-year college. Not that I hate these people – far from it – but frat boys are real gentlemen in comparison. Some of the goons I’ve worked with would raise the hair on your neck, and those guys don’t get into frats. Hell, if some dumb feminists tried throwing bricks through their windows they’d be lucky to escape without being violated in a very unpleasant manner. Which is exactly why frat boys are such a popular target, now that I think of it.

    As someone who grew up with a foot in both worlds, this narrative of rapist college boys is just surreal. I had to literally protect my little sister with my fists growing up, and it sure wasn’t from college bound middle class boys.

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  52. @iSteveFan

    Like I said, the revolt of the elite. They’re not going to take uppity middle class White guys anymore. PC/Diversity/Feminism and other cultural marxism is just elitist class warfare against the middle and working class White population.
     
    No one really argues with you that the elite hate white guys and use feminism and cultural marxism to wage war. We just have a difference of opinion with you concerning who that elite is, or who comprises a disproportionate chunk of it. A topic you either refuse to discuss, or lay blame at the feet of prole white women.

    We just have a difference of opinion with you concerning who that elite is…

    ISteve comments readers will know that the usual suspects are those Jewish Yankee plutocrats. I can’t name any off the top of my head, but that just goes to show how successfully they’ve concealed themselves.

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    those Jewish Yankee plutocrats. I can’t name any off the top of my head

    Wouldn't John Kerry qualify?
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  53. @Reg Cæsar

    We just have a difference of opinion with you concerning who that elite is…
     
    ISteve comments readers will know that the usual suspects are those Jewish Yankee plutocrats. I can't name any off the top of my head, but that just goes to show how successfully they've concealed themselves.

    those Jewish Yankee plutocrats. I can’t name any off the top of my head

    Wouldn’t John Kerry qualify?

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    Wouldn’t John Kerry qualify?

    John Kerry had collateral (maternal side) relatives who were moderately wealthy (not plutocratic), but his mother and father were not. Their income came from the father's employment in the Foreign Service. Richard Kerry was an Ivy League issue born a half-generation after his mother and father and their immigrating siblings elected to dispose of their Jewish past. The vast bulk of any assets from which John Kerry might draw income derive from the family of his 1st wife and from that of his 2d wife's first husband (and neither family was ethnic). Kerry himself grew up in a boarding school/Ivy League milieu and attends Mass at the Jesuit Urban Center, which has a terrible reputation among orthodox Catholics.

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  54. The story is still on RS’s website and they haven’t retracted it. Jann Wenner even came out with a statement in which he doesn’t even refer to the rape as “alleged”.

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  55. I had always despised american campus “Greek life” because it seemed to me to be an overt mockery of Greco-roman civilization.

    All vomitorium with none of the cultivation of philosophy or beauty.

    But I realized at some point in my undergraduate years that these kids were just boys cutting loose before the long trudge of years in an office somewhere and the slow surrender of their wills to their wives and mothers-in-law.

    That’s why you see all these ridiculous posted photos of them in un-PC poses mocking all pieties. Not because they are actually a threat to the dominant marxist-feminist-secular culture of the United States, but because they know very well that they will spend their adult lives entirely under the thumbs of said Kommissars. Every frat party is a bachelor party before the black wedding to a dead corporate culture and a home life where one will retreat to the man cave to relive childhood hopes and be relieved by nostalgia.

    Most of the ribald stories related to me by the most beastly of the frat bros boiled down to maybe having felt up a drunk girl (“maybe” because he was drunk as a skunk as well to prepare for the awkward fumbling) and not having been able to get an erection when she was actually quite decisive about “getting her v-card punched.”

    The ultimate sadness is that the Frat-Rapist Fantasy is as much embraced by males for its macho posturing – a last hope that someone somewhere has the virility that each feels he himself lacks- as it is a monstrous projection of female resentment and denied eros.

    No blonde WASP has such a sting and no 7 Blonde WASPS with Viagra for Blood could brandish their stingers boldly enough to fulfill this fantasy.

    My own personal thinking is that feminism is simply a collective provocation that is meant, however unconsciously, to provoke a dominant, virile response.

    Young men have been taught to try to reason and empathize with a hysterical woman. To try harder to understand what she wants so that the punishing display will end.

    More often than not, she is behaving intolerably because she no longer wants to be tolerated.

    Make of that what you will.

    And those of you far from youth- who have stable families with wonderful mature women and daughters you are rearing to have self-respect and a sense of a higher personal value and calling in life– To you I say Merry Christmas. God bless you each and every one.

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  56. @Shouting Thomas
    "I can do it, but you can't! Na-na-na-na-na!" is the message.

    When the kids flocked into the offices in the 90s determined to wage war against sexual harassment and homophobia, the same dynamic prevailed.

    The gay guys would rat you out if you posted a slightly revealing pic of your wife or girlfriend in your cube, but they posted pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas prancing about on their vacation to Provincetown.

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.

    This tactic is called "rubbing it in."

    DNA Turtles thinks you imagined that last part.

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  57. @syonredux
    Off-topic fun stuff from the Sony hack:

    I freaking promise you that whatever debate over current events you get trapped in this holiday season will not be as bad as a reply-all chain argument about the Gaza Strip, featuring Russell Simmons, sent to Natalie Portman, Scarlett Johansson, and Ryan Seacrest. And I can promise you that because I have seen one.

    Imagine being forced to listen to other people discuss the following question: "Is the Gaza War Really Over?"

    Now imagine those people include Def Jam founder Russell Simmons, baby-resembling GOP talking point-scribbler Frank Luntz, producer Ryan Kavanaugh, former NBC and Universal co-chair Ben Silverman, actresses Scarlett Johansson and Natalie Portman, at least three rabbis, and, of course Ryan Seacrest.

    Thanks to emails included in the recent Sony mega-dump, you don't have to use your imagination:

    On Aug 29, 2014, at 1:29 PM, "Ryan Kavanaugh" wrote:

    The problem is that Moore ' law is kicking in. Before the summer 50 percent of college students supported israel, today less the 25 percent do. There are hate crimes against heed happening in almost every major metropolitan city, now including the US.

    We have let this happen. And it's our job to keep another Hollacast from happening. Many of you may think that can't happen, that is extreme. My Grandmother told me over and over again remember no one believed it could happen and everyone thought the government would not allow it to. It took 5 years before the us stepped in, and 12 million dead.

    If you pull newspapers from pre Hollacast it seems eerily close to our world today.

    Kavanaugh, the CEO of Relativity Media and executive producer of The Social Network, was responding here to an email sent by Canadian Bacon producer Ron Rotholz, who, like Kavanaugh, has the habit of forwarding urgent articles about anti-Semitism and Israel to a circle of colleagues and friends. (More than a dozen such forwards that can be located in the inbox of Sony Entertainment CEO Michael Lynton, who seems to mostly ignore them.)

    A few weeks before sending the email, Kavanaugh, an outspoken supporter of Israel, had become the first major studio head to denounce a letter, signed by actors Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz, that condemned the Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip. He later wrote an editorial for The Hollywood Reporter calling for the film industry to stand with Israel against Palestine.

    Kavanaugh and Rotholz's forwarding habits were irritating enough to Portman that she'd previously asked Kavanaugh to remove her from the list: "you should not be copying me publicly so that 20 people i don't know have my personal info," she admonished the producer. "i will have to change my email address now."

    "Sorry," he replied. "You are right jews being slaughtered for their beliefs and cannes members calling for the boycott of anything Israel or Jewish is much much less important then your email address being shared with 20 of our peers who are trying to make a difference. my deepest apologies." (Grimace emoji.)

    Despite Portman's entreaties to Kavanaugh, Rotholz seems not to have gotten the message. On the 28, he sent out an editorial from Bush U.N. ambassador John Bolton's think tank called "Is the Gaza War Really Over?" to a list including Portman (an Israeli-American dual citizen who'd recently shot a film in the country), Johansson (who's faced criticism for endorsing the Israeli company Sodastream), Seacrest (????), and, yes, Russell Simmons, who answered the Kavanaugh email quoted above with the most Russell Simmons reply you can fathom:

    From: Russell Simmons

    Date:08/29/2014 1:56 PM (GMT-08:00)

    To: Ryan Kavanaugh

    Cc: Glenn Feig , Mark Canton , "Silverman, Ben" , Ron Rotholz , [Joel Mowbray], Amy Pascal , Jon Feltheimer , Jim Gianopulos , Ron Meyer , [David Seigal], Ryan Seacrest , Russell Simmons , Bart Rosenblatt , Jason Binn , Meir Teper , Gianni Nunnari , Jack Rapke , Roger Birnbaum , Jonathan Brandstein , Patrick Whitesell , Cassian Elwes , Beau Flynn , Geyer Kosinski , John Burnham , Solomon Courtney , Rabbi Marc Schneier , Ken Sunshine , Natalie Portman , Scarlett Johansson , [George Perez], Rabbi Steven Leder , Rabbi Marvin Hier , Elliot Brandt , Frank Luntz , David Shane , [Kobi Marom]

    Subject: Re: Is the Gaza War Really Over?

    Simple messaging from non Jews specifically from Muslims promoting peace and Israel's right to exist. Should be spread. (Possibly using statements from Hamas leadership in this branding exercise) could be a unifying force. U have ken sunshine on the chain. We have resources and the desire to win rather then loose the hearts of young Muslims and Jews. Our love for innocent suffering Palestinians must be a strong part of our messaging.

    With great love all things are possible

    (Simmons' suggestion is close to the hilarious one that former Time editor and current Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Rick Stengel posed to Lynton in a separate email a week or two later: "My question is, who is the Muslim Bob Geldof? What if there were a Muslim Anti-ISIL We Are the World video/concert? It could have Muslim artists from all over the world plus hip hop stars.")

    I'll spare you the rest of the aimless debate over peace in the Middle East and Israeli self-defense—which took place entirely between Kavanaugh, Simmons, Rotholz and not a single other member of the 39-strong reply-all group. All you need to see to know how it felt is Portman's final appeal to Lynton and his wife Jamie:

    The Natalie Portman-Ryan Seacrest Gaza Strip Reply-All Chain from Hell

    Lynton replies, simply: "this is nuts."
     
    http://gawker.com/the-natalie-portman-ryan-seacrest-gaza-strip-reply-all-1674694296/all

    Syon, you’ve been warned about those multi-thousand-word copypastes.

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  58. Women like Erdely are white women’s worst enemy, the same applies to the degenerates at the Rolling Stone who allowed her story to go to print. They are deliberately gas-lighting them and turning them into tools to be used by the monied and political elite against the white working and middle-class population. Divide and conquer among other things.

    It’s become quite apparent the elite really don’t like lower class whites and wish they would die off. One fine way is to alienate white women from their natural mates – white men and make white men so pissed they avoid white women like the plague.

    Other tactics by the elite include open borders for demographic destruction. Policies that make it hard for white working class couples to have children – that’s done via saddling them with massive college debt, job destroying trade agreements and importing foreign workers that ensure only that very few find decent paying jobs.

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  59. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Erdely is a very unusual surname in the USA. It refers to Hungarian geography.

    You know the end is nigh when exotic and bizarre last names proliferate in your media. What is the first military objective of all invading armies? The airwaves.

    We are under globalist occupation. Immigrants Uber Alles.

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    First of all, "Erdely" is her husband's name. Her maiden name would have been Sabrina Rubin.

    "Erdely" is the Hungarian word for Transylvania. It's actually pronounced something like "AIR-day" because the "E" is very open but tight and the "ly" is a single consonant, sort of a very light "l" as in "leaf". For this reason it is usually not pronounced and simply lengthens the preceding vowel.

    (Good example is the composer "Kodaly" pronounced "KO-dye" with what amounts to a diphthong on the final syllable.)

    In English it is pronounced "ERD-lee" for some reason. Which explains the frequent mispellings.

    Her husband is the "Erdely" here. People from Transylvania can be: Hungarian, often from small minorities, for example the Szekelys, who are Ur-Hungarians, pronounced "SEK-kaye". for example, "Louis Szekely" better known as "Louis CK", or they may be Rumanians (Transylvania is part of Rumania after all), or they may be Germans ("Saxons"), long German settlement there, or they may be Jewish, e.g., Elie Wiesel is from there, also many others. Nationality in this region is hard to define.
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  60. Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company’s computer system with the goal of undermining its employees’ right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

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    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    Which enemy of the USA is that? Sony Pictures?
    , @syonredux

    Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company’s computer system with the goal of undermining its employees’ right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.
     
    On the other hand, it does give us an unfiltered look into the minds of our masters.....
    , @dearieme
    "Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into ...": or not, as the case may be.

    "... an American company’s computer system with the goal of undermining its employees’ right to free speech." The idea that employees in Hollywood have a right to free speech is pricelessly daft.
    , @WhatEvvs
    You're right. You are also in the wrong place if you want to find people who can understand what you're talking about.

    The Sony hack is a huge story and Steve has ignored it so far, preferring to obsess about a debunked hoax. That's his right, but he also derides the NY Times for its editorial choices. So I can do the same with him. I find it doubly amazing, given that Steve devoted many posts to the Sterling hack, which involves many of the same issues as the Sony hack, although the latter is way more consequential.

    If a crap country like North Korea can do this to a Hollywood studio, then no one is safe. That's quite worrying, don't you think? (If it was North Korea. Chuck Johnson thinks it was an inside job. I am skeptical of that, although it's a possibility.)
    , @David
    Sony Pictures in the US coordinated the script of Zero Dark Thirty with the CIA. They coordinated their own favorable appearance in a NY Times op-ed. They are a branch of zionist propaganda as Syon's post makes clear. I'm glad to know this and I didn't before the Sony leak.

    Did it occur to you that lots of countries must enjoy watching the world's policeman in a dust-up with a piss-soaked homeless nut? Russia or China would never cause anything like this, I suppose.
    , @Udolpho

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further
     
    Not to mention it's very unkosher to embarrass these powerful media people.
    , @Kylie
    "Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company’s computer system with the goal of undermining its employees’ right to free speech."

    You mean the formerly United States.

    "Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further."

    An enemy of my country occupies the White House. And he has plenty of followers among the citizenry.

    Your us vs. them loyalty is touching. The left counts on it, more than you apparently realize.
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  61. Just because females make up around 3/5 of today’s college students doesn’t mean they aren’t part of the nobly oppressed minority on campus anymore with the moral right to go marauding to send a message to that vicious 2/5 majority once in a while.

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  62. Lol.

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  63. If a Ukrainian boy is found dead on Passover, then all the Jews in the village must pay a price.

    If some freshman “Jackie” is friend-zoned by some sophomore “Randall” on a weekend, then all the Greek organizations on the campus must pay a price.

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    "Randall" never even pledged. Ryan Duffin, that is.

    One fabrication in that story was an explanation of why Ryan was not heard from in the RS piece.
    According to Erdely he refused to participate in the interview "out of loyalty to his fraternity". She never contacted him, and Duffin says he would have talked to her for the article if he had been asked.

    Did Erdely make this up herself? Did Jackie fake some emails or tweets or texts again? And not contacting accused rapists is one thing. Not even attempting to contact contemporaneous witnesses of a brutal attack makes no sense at all.
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  64. @Anonymous
    Erdely is a very unusual surname in the USA. It refers to Hungarian geography.

    You know the end is nigh when exotic and bizarre last names proliferate in your media. What is the first military objective of all invading armies? The airwaves.

    We are under globalist occupation. Immigrants Uber Alles.

    First of all, “Erdely” is her husband’s name. Her maiden name would have been Sabrina Rubin.

    “Erdely” is the Hungarian word for Transylvania. It’s actually pronounced something like “AIR-day” because the “E” is very open but tight and the “ly” is a single consonant, sort of a very light “l” as in “leaf”. For this reason it is usually not pronounced and simply lengthens the preceding vowel.

    (Good example is the composer “Kodaly” pronounced “KO-dye” with what amounts to a diphthong on the final syllable.)

    In English it is pronounced “ERD-lee” for some reason. Which explains the frequent mispellings.

    Her husband is the “Erdely” here. People from Transylvania can be: Hungarian, often from small minorities, for example the Szekelys, who are Ur-Hungarians, pronounced “SEK-kaye”. for example, “Louis Szekely” better known as “Louis CK”, or they may be Rumanians (Transylvania is part of Rumania after all), or they may be Germans (“Saxons”), long German settlement there, or they may be Jewish, e.g., Elie Wiesel is from there, also many others. Nationality in this region is hard to define.

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  65. @SFG
    Oh, and BTW: nobody calls out the ethnic background of this fellow Shapiro for doing the *right* thing and calling attention to this act of vandalism? You only notice people are Jewish when they do something you don't like, a la Sabrina Rubin Erdely?

    Oh, and BTW: nobody calls out the ethnic background of this fellow Shapiro for doing the *right* thing and calling attention to this act of vandalism? You only notice people are Jewish when they do something you don’t like, a la Sabrina Rubin Erdely?

    Erdely is quite plausibly motivated by anti-gentile animus. That makes her Jewishness relevant. What makes Shapiro’s Jewishness relevant? Shall we start putting little Star-of-David icons beside all Jewish names like some pedantic Nazi-era bureaucrat?

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    Lol at "anti-gentile animus". Most cute jewesses want to have sex with blond rich frat boys, and they're certainly not worried about a new holocaust.

    Sabrina is a feminist trying to make a name for herself. As a lefty, she resents straight white men, but probably doesn't excuse Jews from that resentment. White women have little to no racial loyalty, and that includes Jewish women. Half of Jews marry nonjews. And many feminists (and lefties) are not Jewish.

    The lefty sickness is in both Jews and white gentiles and we can fight back more clearly if we understand that.
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  66. @Shouting Thomas
    "I can do it, but you can't! Na-na-na-na-na!" is the message.

    When the kids flocked into the offices in the 90s determined to wage war against sexual harassment and homophobia, the same dynamic prevailed.

    The gay guys would rat you out if you posted a slightly revealing pic of your wife or girlfriend in your cube, but they posted pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas prancing about on their vacation to Provincetown.

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.

    This tactic is called "rubbing it in."

    She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.

    The horror! I HATE when hot chicks do this. I trust you feigned outrage in the hope she would continue and perhaps escalate???

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  67. ““Louis Szekely” better known as “Louis CK”

    Louis CK is a Ginger Jew. For a Non Irish/Non Scottish/Non English ethnic group, there sure is a decent number of Ginger haired people among the Ashkenazis.

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    Louis CK is only one-fourth Jewish by ancestry, and his mother is an Irish-American. The red hair could have come from his Irish ancestors.
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  68. Since the 1960′s there have been always double standards on elite campuses. While I was an undergraduate at an Ivy League university, I witnessed numerous such instances. People with controversial “rightist” opinions being punished in a variety of ways, largely to discourage others, it appeared to me. And all manners of slight rule-breaking totally unrelated to the issues at hand would be used to punish the dissenters. “Well, you did break the rules.” Talk about selective enforcement.

    Meanwhile leftist “activists” could vandalize, assault, and terrorize with impunity (and trade and use drugs).

    Even the usually leftist student newspapers that allowed and published certain unpopular opinions or views (in other words deviated from the party doctrine) would be attacked. The editors were threatened, the newspapers stolen or even burnt publicly, and the offices vandalized. Then there would be student occupations of administration buildings to protest some leftist causes (with which the faculty and administration usually agreed) that would usually end up with the administration granting the criminals an audience to discuss the issues and the latter exiting the building in triumph in front of adoring crowds for having gained some sort of a moral “victory” (though nothing of practical value or result would ensue).

    I would look at scenes like that and mutter aloud “Hmm, I do wish we had a company of riot police from Korea or Taiwan here. They’d clear that building of the criminal ‘occupiers’ in a few hours easily,” to the utter horror of others around me. “What are you, some kind of a fascist?” would be the usual retort once they stopped being speechless. I’d reply mildly, “Yes, I am the kind of a fascist who thinks that people who commit crimes should be apprehended by the police.”

    So it was all very simple. Rightists had to be perfect little angels and keep their heads down. Leftists could run amok with impunity on campus and were given the “boys will be boys” type of tolerance and even encouragement (I’d often hear the faculty or the administration comment, “Yes, they are being rowdy, but you have to admire their passion for [insert leftie phrase of the today, e.g. social justice]). They had to do something really outlandishly violent to attract serious law enforcement scrutiny. Even then, the angle was always that their passion for the good got the better of them and resulted in an “accident” or “confrontation,” never that they deliberately harmed others in the name of leftist revolutionary dogma.

    In the latest alumni magazine from one of the universities I attended, there was much coverage about Ferguson: student protests, roundtable discussions about racism (apparently America was still a “soft” racist country or “still a hard” one, in which blacks were either marginalized economically into a new form of slavery or hunted down and killed by the white police), “thoughtful” commentary about the militarization of police (“militarized cops who see nonwhites as enemies will kill… today blacks, tomorrow Jews”), ad nauseam. All ended with “something must be done” or “the federal government needs to intervene.” NOT ONE BIT of dissenting opinion.

    Even though I already wrote to the university to stop soliciting money from my family and to discontinue sending me the magazine, it keeps doing so, likely because the development office there knows, with a pretty good accuracy, how much my wife and I are worth financially. But it did stop asking us to interview prospective students at some point.

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  69. @Abe

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.
     
    You should have very conspicuously taken out heavy duty yellow latex gloves, a calzone-sized sponge, and a spray bottle of clorox and proceeded to thoroughly clean off the top of your desk after she got off. This was in the 90's you said, so you couldn't have gotten in trouble for micro-aggression.

    Reframing. It's not just what's for dinner.

    You should have very conspicuously taken out heavy duty yellow latex gloves, a calzone-sized sponge, and a spray bottle of clorox and proceeded to thoroughly clean off the top of your desk after she got off. This was in the 90′s you said, so you couldn’t have gotten in trouble for micro-aggression.

    Better if he did it right there then. “Would you please excuse me and step off the desk for one moment? Then start spraying. He wouldn’t want to confuse the woman into believing that he cleaned the desk to be more welcoming of her (for her cleanliness and comfort) the next time.

    Too aggressive?

    Of course, at one time in the 90′s I worked as a defense contractor, and this was a place where it was common for executives to sleep with their “admins” (secretaries).

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  70. @Lot
    Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company's computer system with the goal of undermining its employees' right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    Which enemy of the USA is that? Sony Pictures?

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  71. The BBC is now going all in on the black-angels-gunned-down-by-racist-white-nazi-cops-(who-were-probably-frat-boys-at-college) narrative. Look at the final picture in this story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30584097. And the sheer size of the pictures in this story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30584097.

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  72. @SFG
    Oh, and BTW: nobody calls out the ethnic background of this fellow Shapiro for doing the *right* thing and calling attention to this act of vandalism? You only notice people are Jewish when they do something you don't like, a la Sabrina Rubin Erdely?

    Just because he has the last name Shapiro doesn’t mean he’s Jewish.

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    lol

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  73. @bensday
    Sorry to rain on the parade, but Steve has no reason to believe that sre's Jewishness has anything to do with her article. What's the Jewish connection here? Do frats support bds? Do Jews have any reason to resent Frats? From what I hear a lot of Jews are fraternity members. Occam's razor would indicate that sre is motivated by the same thing that motivates scores of other feminists crusaders: a delusional belief that college campuses are filled with rapists and an uncompromising hostility to all male clubs.

    FYI, if Steve reads the Jewish press he knows that Putin is regarded as good for the Jews. He would also know that Israel has remained neutral on Ukraine, in order not to endanger the situation of eastern European Jews. Obviously Jews are interested in what's good for the Jews; however, not every issue has a Jewish angle.

    Similarly, not every action taken by a Jew involves what's good for the Jews. Is it that hard to imagine that Sabrina Rubin Erdely really is a hardcore feminist?

    BTW, I haven't seen Steve Sailor criticize Stephen Cohen for his Putin apologetics. After all, Stephen Cohen keeps talking about the anti-Semites among the Ukrainian nationalists. Sailor won't attribute this to Jewish paranoia because of his reflexive pro-Putin contrarianism, (the neocons say Putin is bad, so Putin must be good).

    -bensday

    Our host’s pro-Putin? What makes you think that?

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  74. @Lot
    Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company's computer system with the goal of undermining its employees' right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company’s computer system with the goal of undermining its employees’ right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    On the other hand, it does give us an unfiltered look into the minds of our masters…..

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  75. God, I didn’t realize that iSteve readers were such Betas!

    You guys don’t get much attention from women, do you?

    I’d like to help you out, but that’s one skill that can’t be taught. And, there’s no way that I can hand my surplus over to you. Doesn’t work that way.

    Merry Blue Balls Christmas!

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  76. Reparations for the stale, pale Fratriarchy!

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  77. #24 SFG and #31 ben tillman

    Took you long enough to figure out.

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  78. @Lot
    Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company's computer system with the goal of undermining its employees' right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    “Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into …”: or not, as the case may be.

    “… an American company’s computer system with the goal of undermining its employees’ right to free speech.” The idea that employees in Hollywood have a right to free speech is pricelessly daft.

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  79. @WowJustWow
    Is "F—k Boys" really meant to be an insult or just another projection of the students' sexual fantasies, like Jackie's story?

    Is “F—k Boys” really meant to be an insult or just another projection of the students’ sexual fantasies, like Jackie’s story?

    It reminds me of the hoax at Vassar last fall in which the hoaxer (the student member of the Bias Incident Response Team) thought messages like “avoid being bitches” could credibly be attributed to normal people.

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  80. @Filmer
    These jokers should be arrested and booted out of school. If a Washington Times reporter can figure this out in a couple of days, then surely the cops can.

    That said, this doesn't really look good for the frat. My thought when this story first broke was that the frat was remaining silent because something might have happened there that night, just not what was reported. Now that we know that nothing happened, why were these frat boys not loudly proclaiming their innocence from the highest rooftop? Also, why didn't they stay there and protect their property? They should have grabbed baseball bats and ringed the house and dared the PC mob to try something.

    And why is the house still empty? Is that part of the University ban on frats? Or a ban on this frat? I would think the University could ban activities but couldn't keep people from living there, as that is some people's home. If the house being empty isn't part of the ban, then that looks bad also. It makes the frat boys look weak and afraid. They should march back into their house proudly and dare anyone to try to stop them.

    That said, this doesn’t really look good for the frat. My thought when this story first broke was that the frat was remaining silent because something might have happened there that night, just not what was reported. Now that we know that nothing happened, why were these frat boys not loudly proclaiming their innocence from the highest rooftop?

    First, no one was accused of anything.

    Second, what are they supposed to do — buy the NYT? They have no access to the megaphone.

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    We can hope that the national fraternity has hired a lawyer and is suing Rolling Stone for damages. I've gathered that lawyers usually advise their clients to say nothing in public.
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  82. Is new Annie worse than The Wiz?

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  83. WhatEvvs [AKA "Bemused"] says:
    @Lot
    Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company's computer system with the goal of undermining its employees' right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    You’re right. You are also in the wrong place if you want to find people who can understand what you’re talking about.

    The Sony hack is a huge story and Steve has ignored it so far, preferring to obsess about a debunked hoax. That’s his right, but he also derides the NY Times for its editorial choices. So I can do the same with him. I find it doubly amazing, given that Steve devoted many posts to the Sterling hack, which involves many of the same issues as the Sony hack, although the latter is way more consequential.

    If a crap country like North Korea can do this to a Hollywood studio, then no one is safe. That’s quite worrying, don’t you think? (If it was North Korea. Chuck Johnson thinks it was an inside job. I am skeptical of that, although it’s a possibility.)

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  85. @ Bill P

    I agree that stereotyping of fraternity men (not “frat guys”) a la “Revenge of the Nerds” is a consistent meme in this ordeal. I haven’t seen my fraternity brothers very often in the 15+ years since graduation (from a small, public, well-regarded NE liberal arts school), but of those I’ve kept in touch with, here is a summary of the them (~20 guys):

    1. Married in mid 20′s. All still married to first wife, all attractive and educated.
    2. At least 2 kids each, many have 3.
    3. Middle to upper-middle class income and lifestyle (Finance, Engineering, etc., wife stays at home)
    4. Conservative, Republican, race-realist. Literally not a single one who spouts off liberal BS (maybe a few moderate Dems who bite their tongues). Talk about “schools” or “real-estate” (i.e. our never-ending quest to evade low-class Blacks) and as long as you don’t drop N-bombs you’ll get nothing but nodding heads and agreement.
    5. Many attend church (largely Catholic), not overtly religious but know its important to for kids to go.

    Overall, I think any conservative, immigration-retsrictionist movement could do much worse that fraternity men as a base.

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  86. Threadjacking to recommend this link:

    http://propertarianforum.wordpress.com/2014/12/22/white-privilege-normative-commons/

    This is the most coherent definitional parsing of “white privilege” I’ve ever seen.

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  87. WhatEvvs [AKA "Bemused"] says:

    Just one more comment about rape culture and so on….

    Rolling Stone magazine, published by the Wizard of Oz, excuse me, Jann Wenner, has been the single most important megaphone for rock music as a culture since it was founded I forget when. Not once, to my knowledge, has RS done an expose of the seamy underside of rock music. Spin has been the place to go if you want to read the facts:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/led-zeppelin-there-was-a-whole-lotta-love-on-tour-763446.html

    There’s the brutal violence, the accusations of attempted rape, the child abuse; and that’s before we get to such modern-day mundanities as drugs and occultism.”

    The child abuse refers to the fact that the groupies in the 70s scene were as young as 13.

    And now Robert Plant, CBE, runs around as if he’s some kind of elder statesman. Give me a sick bag, please.

    I’m sure you all know about Jimmy Page abducting a 14-year old and imprisoning her for 18 months? Yeah, right. Well, I can’t blame you if all you did was read Rolling Stone.

    If you know this, and the history of RS not reporting on this, and reporting on these tours as if nothing especially untoward had happened (a few drugs, wink wink) you wouldn’t be so surprised as their shitty reporting because……drumroll…….

    Rolling Stone is garbage. They are not a legitimate source of any information, they are a fanzine for idiotic rock music zombies, and anyone with half a brain has known this for a long time. But they are very, very successful, and make a lot of money, and got away with creating a true rape culture – rock music – for a long time. But, let ‘em publish one of their usuals about YOUR group, and you go crazy and won’t let it go.

    The vast majority of middle aged guys, including the ones who read this blog, are rock music fans, so you’ll give RS and Wenner a pass, and obsess about eeeeevil Gentile hating Rubin-Erdely, and crazy Jackie until April 2015.

    I think this is called fiddling while Rome burns. Now, that a huge case of not noticing things.

    Merry Christmas!

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    The vast majority of middle aged guys, including the ones who read this blog, are rock music fans, so you’ll give RS and Wenner a pass, and obsess about eeeeevil Gentile hating Rubin-Erdely, and crazy Jackie until April 2015.


    RS and Wenner aren't getting a pass. His shop appears to be a nest of vicious Gentile haters, and their shabbas goyim.
    , @ben tillman

    I’m sure you all know about Jimmy Page abducting a 14-year old and imprisoning her for 18 months? Yeah, right. Well, I can’t blame you if all you did was read Rolling Stone.
     
    Rolling Stone hated Led Zeppelin from the start. I doubt they were covering anything up for them.
    , @Brutusale
    Lori Maddox lost her virginity at age 13 in a threesome with David and Angela Bowie; her trysts with rock royalty began before Page came along. FWIW, Maddox's mother gave her daughter's relationship with Page her enthusiastic blessing.

    How did the press cover the burgeoning relationship between the 24-year old Elvis Presley and 14-year old Priscilla Beaulieu? Crickets, as Jerry Lee Lewis and Chuck Berry already set the tone.
    , @The most deplorable one
    Well I seem to recall that Roman Polanski and Woodie Allen and maybe even the Dunham Horror did those sort of things as well ...
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  88. @Lot
    Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company's computer system with the goal of undermining its employees' right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    Sony Pictures in the US coordinated the script of Zero Dark Thirty with the CIA. They coordinated their own favorable appearance in a NY Times op-ed. They are a branch of zionist propaganda as Syon’s post makes clear. I’m glad to know this and I didn’t before the Sony leak.

    Did it occur to you that lots of countries must enjoy watching the world’s policeman in a dust-up with a piss-soaked homeless nut? Russia or China would never cause anything like this, I suppose.

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    Sony Pictures in the US coordinated the script of Zero Dark Thirty with the CIA.
     
    So they're not just an American company hacked by our enemies, they are a patriotic one who works with our spooks. All the more reason not to sanction Nork hacking.


    I’m glad to know this and I didn’t before the Sony leak.
     
    So if you benefit slightly from an illegal act, then it is OK?

    The real effect of the Sony hack is every American corporation is going to spend more money now on IT security, hurting our stock market and raising consumer prices.
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  89. @bensday
    Sorry to rain on the parade, but Steve has no reason to believe that sre's Jewishness has anything to do with her article. What's the Jewish connection here? Do frats support bds? Do Jews have any reason to resent Frats? From what I hear a lot of Jews are fraternity members. Occam's razor would indicate that sre is motivated by the same thing that motivates scores of other feminists crusaders: a delusional belief that college campuses are filled with rapists and an uncompromising hostility to all male clubs.

    FYI, if Steve reads the Jewish press he knows that Putin is regarded as good for the Jews. He would also know that Israel has remained neutral on Ukraine, in order not to endanger the situation of eastern European Jews. Obviously Jews are interested in what's good for the Jews; however, not every issue has a Jewish angle.

    Similarly, not every action taken by a Jew involves what's good for the Jews. Is it that hard to imagine that Sabrina Rubin Erdely really is a hardcore feminist?

    BTW, I haven't seen Steve Sailor criticize Stephen Cohen for his Putin apologetics. After all, Stephen Cohen keeps talking about the anti-Semites among the Ukrainian nationalists. Sailor won't attribute this to Jewish paranoia because of his reflexive pro-Putin contrarianism, (the neocons say Putin is bad, so Putin must be good).

    -bensday

    Sorry to rain on the parade, but Steve has no reason to believe that sre’s Jewishness has anything to do with her article. What’s the Jewish connection here?

    Is this deliberate obfuscation? Or are you really that naive?

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  90. @ben tillman

    That said, this doesn’t really look good for the frat. My thought when this story first broke was that the frat was remaining silent because something might have happened there that night, just not what was reported. Now that we know that nothing happened, why were these frat boys not loudly proclaiming their innocence from the highest rooftop?
     
    First, no one was accused of anything.

    Second, what are they supposed to do -- buy the NYT? They have no access to the megaphone.

    We can hope that the national fraternity has hired a lawyer and is suing Rolling Stone for damages. I’ve gathered that lawyers usually advise their clients to say nothing in public.

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  91. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The vandalism had happened before the story became known as a hoax so what’s the big deal?

    Hell, it happened less than 24 hours after the story broke. If the vandals had done this truly believing with reasonable grounds for believing that the place was a den of unpunished gang rapists, then how was it an unjustified attack?

    Steve and a whole bunch of commenters are acting like sissy boys in feeling like shared victims.

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    "If the vandals had done this truly believing with reasonable grounds for believing that the place was a den of unpunished gang rapists, then how was it an unjustified attack?"

    You've never heard that two wrongs don''t make a right? And, in this instance, it's entirely one wrong perpetrated by callow intemperate asses who'd swallowed unquestioningly a propagandist's baseless "reporting."
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  92. Could we work out a Transfer Agreement with their representatives? Perhaps set aside a campus for guys? Negotiate a Dude-ist Declaration with Obama and his minions that would give us our own Dude National Home? UT-Austin, for example. Maybe UCLA. Someplace nice, with good weather.

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  93. “progeny of a privileged family”

    Does that mean he is the son of a senator or captain of industry? Or does it just mean “white”?

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  94. I don’t know anything about Greek culture but I know that each Fraternity has some niche or specialty. Some are sports / jock dominant, some are business networking, some are drinking oriented, etc. What was Phi Kappa Psi’s?

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  95. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Since the 1960′s there have been always double standards on elite campuses.

    … and not-so-elite campuses. In the 70s I attended UW-Madison after several years of travel.

    Whenever a campus group sponsored a conservative speaker, the Trots (Spartacist Youth) would seed the audience with agitators who would wait for an opportune moment and then shout down the speaker. Sometimes they would storm the stage and threaten to rough the guy up.

    Classic communist Direct Action techniques common in Weimar Germany. No one was ever punished or expelled.

    It was ten years after the 1967 Arab/Israeli war and Holocaustiana was getting fired up, so any physical resistance to Trot disruption was classed as “Nazism” and “fascism”.

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  96. @Whiskey
    Like I said, the revolt of the elite. They're not going to take uppity middle class White guys anymore. PC/Diversity/Feminism and other cultural marxism is just elitist class warfare against the middle and working class White population.

    Elite Marxism as Cultural Warfare Against the Lower Classes

    Write it dude.

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  97. As usual, Nick Lowe nailed it:

    l love the sound of breaking glass
    Especially when I’m lonely
    l need the noises of destruction
    When there’s nothing new

    Oh, nothing new, sound of breaking glass

    [MORE]

    I love the sound of breaking glass
    Deep into the night
    l love the sound of its condition
    Flyin’ all around…

    Oh, all around, sound of breaking glass
    Nothin’ new, sound of breaking glass
    Safe at last, sound of breaking glass

    I love the sound of breaking glass
    Deep into the night
    I love the work only it can do
    Oh, a change of mind…

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  98. @Anonymous
    I would ordinarily love to see a houseful of frat-boy douchebags get their comeuppance, but I really would prefer a "Revenge of the Nerds"-style humiliation rather than felony vandalism.

    Steve, you really need something like a “goonsay” emote for posts like this.

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  99. @mikesylwester
    If a Ukrainian boy is found dead on Passover, then all the Jews in the village must pay a price.

    If some freshman "Jackie" is friend-zoned by some sophomore "Randall" on a weekend, then all the Greek organizations on the campus must pay a price.

    “Randall” never even pledged. Ryan Duffin, that is.

    One fabrication in that story was an explanation of why Ryan was not heard from in the RS piece.
    According to Erdely he refused to participate in the interview “out of loyalty to his fraternity”. She never contacted him, and Duffin says he would have talked to her for the article if he had been asked.

    Did Erdely make this up herself? Did Jackie fake some emails or tweets or texts again? And not contacting accused rapists is one thing. Not even attempting to contact contemporaneous witnesses of a brutal attack makes no sense at all.

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  100. @Foreign Expert
    those Jewish Yankee plutocrats. I can’t name any off the top of my head

    Wouldn't John Kerry qualify?

    Wouldn’t John Kerry qualify?

    John Kerry had collateral (maternal side) relatives who were moderately wealthy (not plutocratic), but his mother and father were not. Their income came from the father’s employment in the Foreign Service. Richard Kerry was an Ivy League issue born a half-generation after his mother and father and their immigrating siblings elected to dispose of their Jewish past. The vast bulk of any assets from which John Kerry might draw income derive from the family of his 1st wife and from that of his 2d wife’s first husband (and neither family was ethnic). Kerry himself grew up in a boarding school/Ivy League milieu and attends Mass at the Jesuit Urban Center, which has a terrible reputation among orthodox Catholics.

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  101. @Lot
    Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company's computer system with the goal of undermining its employees' right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further

    Not to mention it’s very unkosher to embarrass these powerful media people.

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  102. @Annek
    I guess the "folks" in charge at UVA and Charlottesville don't subscribe to the broken windows theory for controlling crime and creating a nice environment.

    Real glass in the windows and not the sugar version that Hollywood uses to avoid injuring the actors.

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  103. The gay guys would rat you out if you posted a slightly revealing pic of your wife or girlfriend in your cube, but they posted pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas prancing about on their vacation to Provincetown.

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.

    Where were you working, Caligula?

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    Where were you working, Caligula?
     
    Yeah that passage is obvious BS. Puritan gays "reporting people" for "slightly revealing" pictures of girlfriends while posting "pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas?" Really? Has anyone here, ever in their lives, worked with a gay person who had a picture of themselves in a jock strap and feather boa on their cubicle?

    This reads like a paranoid fantasy of a low-IQ sheltered college republican at a crappy liberal arts college.
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  104. @Shouting Thomas
    "I can do it, but you can't! Na-na-na-na-na!" is the message.

    When the kids flocked into the offices in the 90s determined to wage war against sexual harassment and homophobia, the same dynamic prevailed.

    The gay guys would rat you out if you posted a slightly revealing pic of your wife or girlfriend in your cube, but they posted pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas prancing about on their vacation to Provincetown.

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.

    This tactic is called "rubbing it in."

    By the end of his essay Rothbard cut to the real motive of the feminists: the campus date-rape campaigns of the early 1990s weren’t motivated by a genuine concern for the well-being of women. They were part of an ongoing attempt to delegitimize heterosexuality to young, impressionable women by demonizing men as rapists.

    The only point I’d add is that the regulations the feminists were proposing applied only to men, not to the hordes of lecherous dikes teaching in “Wymyn’s Studies” departments whose most prized occupational perk is brazen sexual harassment of young women with complete impunity.

    - Feminism’s Third Wave, Angela Fiori

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  105. ” The laws are only legitimate when they work. This is not a particularly radical campus, but we’re mad. …”

    ‘…but we’re mad…’ is undoubtedly true, in more ways than one. Not only emotionally, but psychologically as well. And, just in passing, there is something slightly sexual, feminist with the term ‘UVA’…maybe, it’s just me, but it has a certain gynecological ring to it.

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  106. Dennis Prager, who is a very Jewishly Jewish Jew, said this before the Rolling Stone Story, on October 28th about the “culture of rape” on campus (http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/10/30/nros-dennis-prager-campus-rape-culture-is-a-gar/201388):

    It’s a gargantuan lie to get votes. It’s as big a lie as the culture of rape on your campuses. What nonsense. There is a culture of rape on campuses run by the feminist left?

    What do you cite to sell me this nonsense? One in 5 women are sexually assaulted on campuses. Do you know what sexual assault means? Did you ever look at what counts? An unwanted kiss is considered sexual assault. I’m stunned it’s only 1 in 5. Four out of five women have not gotten an unwanted kiss? My wife gets unwanted kisses every so often.

    They make light of rape because they redefine these terms. We don’t make light of it. We think it is the worst thing possible short of murder. But they make light of it by trivializing it. Culture of Rape? No. I’ll tell you why it exists on the campus, and that is: a rape of the culture.

    This was pretty widely reported at the time, in the left wing press, and the commentary against Prager was unhinged, as he himself noted in a story on November 4. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/391846/when-left-attacks-personal-tale-dennis-prager.

    In that November 4th article, Prager predicted:

    If you differ with them — on …. the extent of rape on college campuses …. — they will humiliate, defame, libel, and try to economically crush you.

    Libel it is!

    As I said: Prager is Jewishly Jewish Jew.

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    I've never met Rabbi Prager, but he did me a big favor once. He came to my son's high school and gave a speech. The gist of it was, if you want to make the world a better place, the first thig be nicer to the people around you, such as your parents. The teenagers all objected, except for my son, who decided that what Prager had said made sense and immediately started being nicer to his mother and me.
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  107. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @WhatEvvs
    Just one more comment about rape culture and so on....

    Rolling Stone magazine, published by the Wizard of Oz, excuse me, Jann Wenner, has been the single most important megaphone for rock music as a culture since it was founded I forget when. Not once, to my knowledge, has RS done an expose of the seamy underside of rock music. Spin has been the place to go if you want to read the facts:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/led-zeppelin-there-was-a-whole-lotta-love-on-tour-763446.html


    There's the brutal violence, the accusations of attempted rape, the child abuse; and that's before we get to such modern-day mundanities as drugs and occultism."

     

    The child abuse refers to the fact that the groupies in the 70s scene were as young as 13.

    And now Robert Plant, CBE, runs around as if he's some kind of elder statesman. Give me a sick bag, please.

    I'm sure you all know about Jimmy Page abducting a 14-year old and imprisoning her for 18 months? Yeah, right. Well, I can't blame you if all you did was read Rolling Stone.

    If you know this, and the history of RS not reporting on this, and reporting on these tours as if nothing especially untoward had happened (a few drugs, wink wink) you wouldn't be so surprised as their shitty reporting because......drumroll.......

    Rolling Stone is garbage. They are not a legitimate source of any information, they are a fanzine for idiotic rock music zombies, and anyone with half a brain has known this for a long time. But they are very, very successful, and make a lot of money, and got away with creating a true rape culture - rock music - for a long time. But, let 'em publish one of their usuals about YOUR group, and you go crazy and won't let it go.

    The vast majority of middle aged guys, including the ones who read this blog, are rock music fans, so you'll give RS and Wenner a pass, and obsess about eeeeevil Gentile hating Rubin-Erdely, and crazy Jackie until April 2015.

    I think this is called fiddling while Rome burns. Now, that a huge case of not noticing things.

    Merry Christmas!

    The vast majority of middle aged guys, including the ones who read this blog, are rock music fans, so you’ll give RS and Wenner a pass, and obsess about eeeeevil Gentile hating Rubin-Erdely, and crazy Jackie until April 2015.

    RS and Wenner aren’t getting a pass. His shop appears to be a nest of vicious Gentile haters, and their shabbas goyim.

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  108. @Steve (not Sailer)
    Dennis Prager, who is a very Jewishly Jewish Jew, said this before the Rolling Stone Story, on October 28th about the "culture of rape" on campus (http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/10/30/nros-dennis-prager-campus-rape-culture-is-a-gar/201388):

    It's a gargantuan lie to get votes. It's as big a lie as the culture of rape on your campuses. What nonsense. There is a culture of rape on campuses run by the feminist left?

    What do you cite to sell me this nonsense? One in 5 women are sexually assaulted on campuses. Do you know what sexual assault means? Did you ever look at what counts? An unwanted kiss is considered sexual assault. I'm stunned it's only 1 in 5. Four out of five women have not gotten an unwanted kiss? My wife gets unwanted kisses every so often.

    They make light of rape because they redefine these terms. We don't make light of it. We think it is the worst thing possible short of murder. But they make light of it by trivializing it. Culture of Rape? No. I'll tell you why it exists on the campus, and that is: a rape of the culture.
     
    This was pretty widely reported at the time, in the left wing press, and the commentary against Prager was unhinged, as he himself noted in a story on November 4. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/391846/when-left-attacks-personal-tale-dennis-prager.

    In that November 4th article, Prager predicted:

    If you differ with them — on .... the extent of rape on college campuses .... — they will humiliate, defame, libel, and try to economically crush you.
     
    Libel it is!

    As I said: Prager is Jewishly Jewish Jew.
    --

    I’ve never met Rabbi Prager, but he did me a big favor once. He came to my son’s high school and gave a speech. The gist of it was, if you want to make the world a better place, the first thig be nicer to the people around you, such as your parents. The teenagers all objected, except for my son, who decided that what Prager had said made sense and immediately started being nicer to his mother and me.

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  109. That said, this doesn’t really look good for the frat. My thought when this story first broke was that the frat was remaining silent because something might have happened there that night, just not what was reported. Now that we know that nothing happened, why were these frat boys not loudly proclaiming their innocence from the highest rooftop?

    My guess is that the followed the instructions of their National Organization, which promised legal backing at the appropriate time in the future.

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  110. @Anonymous
    The vandalism had happened before the story became known as a hoax so what's the big deal?

    Hell, it happened less than 24 hours after the story broke. If the vandals had done this truly believing with reasonable grounds for believing that the place was a den of unpunished gang rapists, then how was it an unjustified attack?

    Steve and a whole bunch of commenters are acting like sissy boys in feeling like shared victims.

    “If the vandals had done this truly believing with reasonable grounds for believing that the place was a den of unpunished gang rapists, then how was it an unjustified attack?”

    You’ve never heard that two wrongs don”t make a right? And, in this instance, it’s entirely one wrong perpetrated by callow intemperate asses who’d swallowed unquestioningly a propagandist’s baseless “reporting.”

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  112. If a crap country like North Korea can do this to a Hollywood studio, then no one is safe. That’s quite worrying, don’t you think? (If it was North Korea. Chuck Johnson thinks it was an inside job. I am skeptical of that, although it’s a possibility.)

    It would be interesting if Steve and some others dug into to this story to see whether or not it was an inside job or a NK one.

    As far as no one being safe if NK c0uld do this, why is that any different from our government or even SJWs doing it to us?

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  113. “The vandalism had happened before the story became known as a hoax so what’s the big deal?”

    No big deal. Really, vandals should have the right to destroy the property of anyone who has been accused. After all, it’s their “good intentions” that count.

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  114. Sony hack offers glimpse at Zionists in the United States

    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/12/michael-rightwing-zionists

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  115. Prager is a great relief to hear much of the time in his opposition to CultMarx. He manages to shake his head intensely while speaking patiently and without rage.

    He doesn’t panic when he is attacked- as when he suggested women might sometimes consider going ahead and making love to their husbands even when “not in the mood” for the sake of the marriage.

    Kindof an inside-out Limbaugh.

    His commencement address youtube video was great. Telling young people that the enemy is not “society” but your own internal weaknesses and resistance. Change yourself instead of a adopting a quixotic “change the world” stance (which means, to the left, continue your infantile narcissistic self-defense while insisting the world at large facilitate you.)

    His absolute stance on Israel is at least a sincere one. And his personal civility makes a great argument.

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  116. @Truth

    The gay guys would rat you out if you posted a slightly revealing pic of your wife or girlfriend in your cube, but they posted pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas prancing about on their vacation to Provincetown.

    The HR girl, fresh out of her indoctrination at U Mich, set out to stamp out sexual harassment, but she was the worst sexual harasser I ever encountered. She showed me her boobs at every opportunity and often sat on top my desk and gave me an unobstructed view of her panties.
     
    Where were you working, Caligula?

    Where were you working, Caligula?

    Yeah that passage is obvious BS. Puritan gays “reporting people” for “slightly revealing” pictures of girlfriends while posting “pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas?” Really? Has anyone here, ever in their lives, worked with a gay person who had a picture of themselves in a jock strap and feather boa on their cubicle?

    This reads like a paranoid fantasy of a low-IQ sheltered college republican at a crappy liberal arts college.

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  117. @David
    Sony Pictures in the US coordinated the script of Zero Dark Thirty with the CIA. They coordinated their own favorable appearance in a NY Times op-ed. They are a branch of zionist propaganda as Syon's post makes clear. I'm glad to know this and I didn't before the Sony leak.

    Did it occur to you that lots of countries must enjoy watching the world's policeman in a dust-up with a piss-soaked homeless nut? Russia or China would never cause anything like this, I suppose.

    Sony Pictures in the US coordinated the script of Zero Dark Thirty with the CIA.

    So they’re not just an American company hacked by our enemies, they are a patriotic one who works with our spooks. All the more reason not to sanction Nork hacking.

    I’m glad to know this and I didn’t before the Sony leak.

    So if you benefit slightly from an illegal act, then it is OK?

    The real effect of the Sony hack is every American corporation is going to spend more money now on IT security, hurting our stock market and raising consumer prices.

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  118. My own personal thinking is that feminism is simply a collective provocation that is meant, however unconsciously, to provoke a dominant, virile response.

    I think Steve has the better argument that it is simply an ideology for unattractive women.

    If a physically attractive woman sprouts feminism, it is a sign there is something unattractive about her on the inside. Likewise, a homely girl who is anti-feminist likely has an inner beauty she believes the right guy will eventually see, or has already found.

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    I think there is much to the unattractive harpy ideology argument. It certainly applies overwhelmingly to the actual elite theoreticians and professional Damaged Womyn employed at the university level.

    I think what I was trying to get at, in an admittedly vague, elliptical way- is that I don't think women found the idea of being their own men appealing until there was a phallic vacuum which they had to fill.

    I think it took a generation of abdication on the part of men (maybe several) to enable the rise of a kind of corrupt animus among mainstream women.

    But then cultural degeneration as a whole process is made up of inextricable social strands- each a place to stand in condemnation of the other. It isn't really a discrete cause and effect relationship- more a mutual spiral of decline.

    Bad mothers who are bad mothers because they had bad fathers and so raise bad sons who go on to be bad fathers who raise bad daughters who raise bad sons.

    And so on and on and on.

    I'll be accused of being a Judeo-Christian platonic essentialist-- but I believe the manifold corruptions of Man and Woman mirror one another.

    And yes, Cultural Marxism is at least the most powerful force driving the maelstrom, if for no other reason than that it empowers the endless splintering of society into factions freed from the constraints of conscience by the alchemy of envy born from cowardice and resentment being transformed into entitlement and freedom from accountability.

    Which ends finally in each individual being transformed into a faction of one. Each due consideration only as an agent of The Enemy by the other.

    Thus injustice committed in protest of injustice.

    Good Lord it is Christmas Eve. What are we doing on the damnable internet?

    P.S.

    Tell your wife not to turn around. Trust me on this.
    , @Udolpho
    This is glib, more accurately it is an ideology for women who feel abandoned in any sense by men. One of the ur-feminists, Mary Wollstonecraft, had a useless, unreliable dad, for example. Whatever she looked like, she had plenty of reason to feel that one of the central male figures in her life was worthless and that she needed to be able to support herself as a man did.
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  119. Never apologize to people who never apologize.

    Yes. This is the forgotten aspect of Chivalry; it’s between an ingroup. Not infidels, heathens, or outsiders.

    One thing i’d like to see conservatives\traditionalists\freedom-lovers\patriots\citizenists\nationalists\white people do is explicitly talk about seccession.

    Welcome to the club.

    Any relation to the other reporter named Shapiro covering the same story for the WaPo? Maybe we’d get a wider variety of “perspectives” in this country if the reporters were not all drawn from the same tiny subset of people.

    If the Shapiros and Boazes and Cohens and -steins/-baums/-bergs would just change their surnames to non-German/Jewish ones, Whiskey could really kick some ass. We’d be reduced to analyzing photos.

    From what I hear a lot of Jews are fraternity members.

    Right. Best way to absolve them is to make your villains blond, tanned, and fit. Good thing Rubin-Erdely didn’t do that.

    Bill P says:
    December 24, 2014 at 3:37 am GMT

    Copy that, right down to the last paragraph.

    those Jewish Yankee plutocrats. I can’t name any off the top of my head

    Wouldn’t John Kerry qualify?

    Just rewrite it like this:

    Jewish/Yankee plutocrats.

    Or this:

    Jewish or Yankee plutocrats.

    Then you can name a couple thousand.

    Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company’s computer system with the goal of undermining its employees’ right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    A totalitarian regime runs the US, and you’re giving it aid and comfort.

    Not to mention it’s very unkosher to embarrass these powerful media people.

    True, there is that.

    Twinkie says:
    December 24, 2014 at 9:05 am GMT

    The term is Anarcho-Tyranny.

    If a crap country like North Korea can do this to a Hollywood studio, then no one is safe.

    Oh, yes, please do stop hacking our enemies, North Korea. Whatever will we do, now that our enemies’ dirty laundry has been exposed?

    Bemused says:
    December 24, 2014 at 3:23 pm GMT

    Is it your official position that you’re not Jewish?

    Steve and a whole bunch of commenters are acting like sissy boys in feeling like shared victims.

    Translation: the left has a sacred monopoly on acting like sissy boys, because the squeaky wheel never gets the grease.

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  120. @David R. Merridale
    Oh, and BTW: nobody calls out the ethnic background of this fellow Shapiro for doing the *right* thing and calling attention to this act of vandalism? You only notice people are Jewish when they do something you don’t like, a la Sabrina Rubin Erdely?

    Erdely is quite plausibly motivated by anti-gentile animus. That makes her Jewishness relevant. What makes Shapiro's Jewishness relevant? Shall we start putting little Star-of-David icons beside all Jewish names like some pedantic Nazi-era bureaucrat?

    Lol at “anti-gentile animus”. Most cute jewesses want to have sex with blond rich frat boys, and they’re certainly not worried about a new holocaust.

    Sabrina is a feminist trying to make a name for herself. As a lefty, she resents straight white men, but probably doesn’t excuse Jews from that resentment. White women have little to no racial loyalty, and that includes Jewish women. Half of Jews marry nonjews. And many feminists (and lefties) are not Jewish.

    The lefty sickness is in both Jews and white gentiles and we can fight back more clearly if we understand that.

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    I talk about Erdely, you generalize about Jews. In fact, Erdely's Rolling Stone article pointedly refers to blond, gentile students in a pejorative manner. I know lots of Jewish girls like gentile guys, and I liked me some Jewish girls in college too, but Sabrina Rubin Erdely wouldn't plausibly fall into either category.

    I know most Jews don't worry about a new, North American-based holocaust, but a surprising number do. Quite literally. A bit insulting, I find.

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  121. @Lot

    My own personal thinking is that feminism is simply a collective provocation that is meant, however unconsciously, to provoke a dominant, virile response.
     
    I think Steve has the better argument that it is simply an ideology for unattractive women.

    If a physically attractive woman sprouts feminism, it is a sign there is something unattractive about her on the inside. Likewise, a homely girl who is anti-feminist likely has an inner beauty she believes the right guy will eventually see, or has already found.

    @ Lot

    I think there is much to the unattractive harpy ideology argument. It certainly applies overwhelmingly to the actual elite theoreticians and professional Damaged Womyn employed at the university level.

    I think what I was trying to get at, in an admittedly vague, elliptical way- is that I don’t think women found the idea of being their own men appealing until there was a phallic vacuum which they had to fill.

    I think it took a generation of abdication on the part of men (maybe several) to enable the rise of a kind of corrupt animus among mainstream women.

    But then cultural degeneration as a whole process is made up of inextricable social strands- each a place to stand in condemnation of the other. It isn’t really a discrete cause and effect relationship- more a mutual spiral of decline.

    Bad mothers who are bad mothers because they had bad fathers and so raise bad sons who go on to be bad fathers who raise bad daughters who raise bad sons.

    And so on and on and on.

    I’ll be accused of being a Judeo-Christian platonic essentialist– but I believe the manifold corruptions of Man and Woman mirror one another.

    And yes, Cultural Marxism is at least the most powerful force driving the maelstrom, if for no other reason than that it empowers the endless splintering of society into factions freed from the constraints of conscience by the alchemy of envy born from cowardice and resentment being transformed into entitlement and freedom from accountability.

    Which ends finally in each individual being transformed into a faction of one. Each due consideration only as an agent of The Enemy by the other.

    Thus injustice committed in protest of injustice.

    Good Lord it is Christmas Eve. What are we doing on the damnable internet?

    P.S.

    Tell your wife not to turn around. Trust me on this.

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  122. @WhatEvvs
    Just one more comment about rape culture and so on....

    Rolling Stone magazine, published by the Wizard of Oz, excuse me, Jann Wenner, has been the single most important megaphone for rock music as a culture since it was founded I forget when. Not once, to my knowledge, has RS done an expose of the seamy underside of rock music. Spin has been the place to go if you want to read the facts:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/led-zeppelin-there-was-a-whole-lotta-love-on-tour-763446.html


    There's the brutal violence, the accusations of attempted rape, the child abuse; and that's before we get to such modern-day mundanities as drugs and occultism."

     

    The child abuse refers to the fact that the groupies in the 70s scene were as young as 13.

    And now Robert Plant, CBE, runs around as if he's some kind of elder statesman. Give me a sick bag, please.

    I'm sure you all know about Jimmy Page abducting a 14-year old and imprisoning her for 18 months? Yeah, right. Well, I can't blame you if all you did was read Rolling Stone.

    If you know this, and the history of RS not reporting on this, and reporting on these tours as if nothing especially untoward had happened (a few drugs, wink wink) you wouldn't be so surprised as their shitty reporting because......drumroll.......

    Rolling Stone is garbage. They are not a legitimate source of any information, they are a fanzine for idiotic rock music zombies, and anyone with half a brain has known this for a long time. But they are very, very successful, and make a lot of money, and got away with creating a true rape culture - rock music - for a long time. But, let 'em publish one of their usuals about YOUR group, and you go crazy and won't let it go.

    The vast majority of middle aged guys, including the ones who read this blog, are rock music fans, so you'll give RS and Wenner a pass, and obsess about eeeeevil Gentile hating Rubin-Erdely, and crazy Jackie until April 2015.

    I think this is called fiddling while Rome burns. Now, that a huge case of not noticing things.

    Merry Christmas!

    I’m sure you all know about Jimmy Page abducting a 14-year old and imprisoning her for 18 months? Yeah, right. Well, I can’t blame you if all you did was read Rolling Stone.

    Rolling Stone hated Led Zeppelin from the start. I doubt they were covering anything up for them.

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    Rolling Stone hated Led Zeppelin from the start. I doubt they were covering anything up for them.

    Why the hate? Same reason they hate white Southerners? I.e., fear and envy of talented, independent Northern European men?
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  123. The truly sinister frat ritual at UVA exposed.

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  125. @WhatEvvs
    Just one more comment about rape culture and so on....

    Rolling Stone magazine, published by the Wizard of Oz, excuse me, Jann Wenner, has been the single most important megaphone for rock music as a culture since it was founded I forget when. Not once, to my knowledge, has RS done an expose of the seamy underside of rock music. Spin has been the place to go if you want to read the facts:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/led-zeppelin-there-was-a-whole-lotta-love-on-tour-763446.html


    There's the brutal violence, the accusations of attempted rape, the child abuse; and that's before we get to such modern-day mundanities as drugs and occultism."

     

    The child abuse refers to the fact that the groupies in the 70s scene were as young as 13.

    And now Robert Plant, CBE, runs around as if he's some kind of elder statesman. Give me a sick bag, please.

    I'm sure you all know about Jimmy Page abducting a 14-year old and imprisoning her for 18 months? Yeah, right. Well, I can't blame you if all you did was read Rolling Stone.

    If you know this, and the history of RS not reporting on this, and reporting on these tours as if nothing especially untoward had happened (a few drugs, wink wink) you wouldn't be so surprised as their shitty reporting because......drumroll.......

    Rolling Stone is garbage. They are not a legitimate source of any information, they are a fanzine for idiotic rock music zombies, and anyone with half a brain has known this for a long time. But they are very, very successful, and make a lot of money, and got away with creating a true rape culture - rock music - for a long time. But, let 'em publish one of their usuals about YOUR group, and you go crazy and won't let it go.

    The vast majority of middle aged guys, including the ones who read this blog, are rock music fans, so you'll give RS and Wenner a pass, and obsess about eeeeevil Gentile hating Rubin-Erdely, and crazy Jackie until April 2015.

    I think this is called fiddling while Rome burns. Now, that a huge case of not noticing things.

    Merry Christmas!

    Lori Maddox lost her virginity at age 13 in a threesome with David and Angela Bowie; her trysts with rock royalty began before Page came along. FWIW, Maddox’s mother gave her daughter’s relationship with Page her enthusiastic blessing.

    How did the press cover the burgeoning relationship between the 24-year old Elvis Presley and 14-year old Priscilla Beaulieu? Crickets, as Jerry Lee Lewis and Chuck Berry already set the tone.

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  126. @ Lot

    I went to graduate school with an openly gay guy with pictures of nude men (rear, not frontal) in various “artistic” black and white photographs up in his cubicle. I am absolutely certain if I had complained I would have been deemed “homophobic” and if I did the same with pictures of women I would have been immediately reported and disciplined.

    So the story sounds like an exaggeration but not excessively so.

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  127. @Lot
    Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company's computer system with the goal of undermining its employees' right to free speech.

    Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.

    “Syon, a totalitarian enemy of the United States run by an insane mass murderer hacked into an American company’s computer system with the goal of undermining its employees’ right to free speech.”

    You mean the formerly United States.

    “Posting hacked private emails from this attack by an enemy of our country is in horrible taste and I hope you and others refrain from doing so any further.”

    An enemy of my country occupies the White House. And he has plenty of followers among the citizenry.

    Your us vs. them loyalty is touching. The left counts on it, more than you apparently realize.

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  128. Emails Show UVA Coordinator Hoped To Put ‘Positive People’ In Touch With Rolling Stone Reporter

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/23/emails-show-uva-coordinator-hoped-to-put-positive-people-in-touch-with-rolling-stone-reporter/

    The emails, obtained by The Daily Caller through a Freedom of Information request, show UVA campus sexual assault awareness project coordinator Emily Renda informing the university’s PR department about her communications with Sabrina Rubin Erdely, the Rolling Stone reporter.

    I’ve been contacted by a reporter who wants to do a long-form article on campus culture, and wants to use U.Va. as a jumping off point for that discussion,” Renda wrote in a July 16 email to UVA spokesmen McGregor McCance and Anthony Paul de Bruyn.

    “She wants to speak primarily with survivors, so I do not anticipate her reaching out to any office for official comment,” continued Renda, who has visited the White House several times to work on campus sexual assault issues and who testified at a Senate hearing on the issue in June.

    “I’ve been talking to her and focusing her in on positive people to speak with.”

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  129. @conatus
    I was surprised at the Allan Dershowitz comments. What is with that? it seems uncharacteristic. Is something happening?


    "Alan Dershowitz, one of the nation’s premier defense lawyers and a Harvard law professor, told The Times that university displays of double-standards in excusing violence from the political left and failing to punish activities such as attacks on fraternity houses can have dangerous consequences.

    “Look at people like [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn, who were violent radicals in the 1970s who now hold distinguished positions of respect [at universities]. It’s clearly a left-right issue. No one would reward the Ku Klux Klan decades after their acts of violence, but if violence is committed by the hard left, then it becomes acceptable in the academic context,” Mr. Dershowitz told The Washington Times.

    Mr. Dershowitz also said the mentality expressed by the student who claims to have participated in the fraternity house attack also should raise alarm.

    “It’s the notion of collective punishment; you punish an entire fraternity for the allegations of several people, and you take the law into your own hands, and it’s a total violation to the notion that punishment should be based on proof of individual guilt,” he said. “It’s become a mantra of the radical left, whether it’s about punishing all policemen for Ferguson or all fraternity persons for alleged rapes. It’s a road to lawlessness.

    This seems like a change of heart to me. I am not an expert in Allan Dershowitz but 'collective punishment' and 'collective guilt' and collective anything seemed to be dear to the heart of rhetoricians of his persuasion. Is something going on? Is there a change in the offing?


    I would also bring up the idea that collective guilt is pretty indiscriminate once the mob gets its drooling head on tight. These self righteous twits chucking stones at the Phi Psi house will find themselves on the wrong end of that collective guilt once they get their prayers answered and YT is no longer in control. When that day comes it will be like the Russians entering Nemmesdorf in 1945. Or Louis CK's prediction(at 1:35) will be proven correct because there will be absolutely no discrimination. It will be mindless and forever and collective.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7FawbAJpoQ

    Yeah Louis is a pc ass kisser but you don't get a cable show by taking a bold stand.

    ” All this “progressive” whining has nothing to do with “oppression” from white men–there is no such oppression. It’s about the will to power in order to keep *looting* white men. ”

    Well said, Another Dad.

    Without white men there’s no one to pay the bills.

    For ages I’ve been saying that secession is the only answer to a number of problems.

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  130. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction

    http://youtu.be/v7WGo6ktkaE?t=2m2s

    Mutual Assured DECEPTION.

    MSM sharing so many bogus ‘facts’ that everyone shares in and adds to the big lie.
    Everyone’s excuse is “I got it from someone else’.

    If it’s a ‘fact’ that 1 out of 5 women are raped in college, it MUST be happening everywhere.

    The ADL-and-SPLC-ization of the news.

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  131. “The laws are only legitimate when they work. This is not a particularly radical campus, but we’re mad”

    Reminds me of the “our immigration laws are broken” rationale behind tolerating illegal immigration.

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  132. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @WhatEvvs
    Just one more comment about rape culture and so on....

    Rolling Stone magazine, published by the Wizard of Oz, excuse me, Jann Wenner, has been the single most important megaphone for rock music as a culture since it was founded I forget when. Not once, to my knowledge, has RS done an expose of the seamy underside of rock music. Spin has been the place to go if you want to read the facts:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/led-zeppelin-there-was-a-whole-lotta-love-on-tour-763446.html


    There's the brutal violence, the accusations of attempted rape, the child abuse; and that's before we get to such modern-day mundanities as drugs and occultism."

     

    The child abuse refers to the fact that the groupies in the 70s scene were as young as 13.

    And now Robert Plant, CBE, runs around as if he's some kind of elder statesman. Give me a sick bag, please.

    I'm sure you all know about Jimmy Page abducting a 14-year old and imprisoning her for 18 months? Yeah, right. Well, I can't blame you if all you did was read Rolling Stone.

    If you know this, and the history of RS not reporting on this, and reporting on these tours as if nothing especially untoward had happened (a few drugs, wink wink) you wouldn't be so surprised as their shitty reporting because......drumroll.......

    Rolling Stone is garbage. They are not a legitimate source of any information, they are a fanzine for idiotic rock music zombies, and anyone with half a brain has known this for a long time. But they are very, very successful, and make a lot of money, and got away with creating a true rape culture - rock music - for a long time. But, let 'em publish one of their usuals about YOUR group, and you go crazy and won't let it go.

    The vast majority of middle aged guys, including the ones who read this blog, are rock music fans, so you'll give RS and Wenner a pass, and obsess about eeeeevil Gentile hating Rubin-Erdely, and crazy Jackie until April 2015.

    I think this is called fiddling while Rome burns. Now, that a huge case of not noticing things.

    Merry Christmas!

    Well I seem to recall that Roman Polanski and Woodie Allen and maybe even the Dunham Horror did those sort of things as well …

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  133. “First, no one was accused of anything.”

    The frat as a whole was accused of something. As were Drew and Armpit and Blanket and “my anthropology class” dude. If such people didn’t exist, perhaps Rolling Stone and the press should have heard about that before the week or so it took for the story to start falling apart.

    “Second, what are they supposed to do — buy the NYT? They have no access to the megaphone.”

    Contact the NYT, the Washington Post, CNN, the networks, etc. and proclaim your innocence and offer to be interviewed. Contact likely sympathetic media, FOX, Washington Times, Breitbart, etc. and offer yourself for interview. Post in the comments section of articled about it. Write to the UVA and local paper. Etc. Heck, contact Charles Johnson if no one else will listen, but don’t you think if some members of Phi Psi had contacted FOX protesting their innocence FOX wouldn’t have put them on?

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  134. @Priss Factor
    America where rules are rigged.

    The dynamics of the conflict:

    White cons are wrong even when they are right, and their enemies(led by Jews) are right even when they're wrong.

    American political discourse isn't based on objectivity, balance, or fairness but on the assumption that whites(especially white males) are guilty of everything and others(esp Jews, homos, and Negroes) are always innocent or justified even when guilty of the crime(due to legacy of past injustice).

    It's not about figuring our who is guilty and who is innocent but about declaring whites(esp males) guilty and pressuring them to repent. If whites prove that they are innocent in a particular case, the PC police moves on to the next case since the assumption always remains the same: whites are guilty and always guilty, therefore we must smoke out their guilt.

    Whites may prove themselves innocent case by case but they are deemed guilty overall and eternally. So, whites can only be innocent in the particular sense but never in the general sense, by which they are guilty for all time.

    The fraternity chapter that owns the vandalized house has had Jewish members, including Eric Cantor’s sons. Sabrina Rubin Erdely is not a spokeswoman for all American Jews except in your fevered imagination.

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  135. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    By Jeffrey Scott Shapiro – The Washington Times

    Any relation to the other reporter named Shapiro covering the same story for the WaPo? Maybe we'd get a wider variety of "perspectives" in this country if the reporters were not all drawn from the same tiny subset of people.

    It’s unlikely that the two reporters are related. Shapiro is a common Ashkenazi surname, and most Ashkenazi Jews who share a common surname are unrelated. Ashkenazi Jews have only had surnames for 200-250 years, and the common surnames were often adopted by unrelated families in multiple locations throughout Eastern Europe.

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    Shapiro is a common Ashkenazi surname, and most Ashkenazi Jews who share a common surname are unrelated

    Aren't most Ashkenazi Jews related?
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  136. @Jefferson
    "“Louis Szekely” better known as “Louis CK”

    Louis CK is a Ginger Jew. For a Non Irish/Non Scottish/Non English ethnic group, there sure is a decent number of Ginger haired people among the Ashkenazis.

    Louis CK is only one-fourth Jewish by ancestry, and his mother is an Irish-American. The red hair could have come from his Irish ancestors.

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  137. @Lot

    My own personal thinking is that feminism is simply a collective provocation that is meant, however unconsciously, to provoke a dominant, virile response.
     
    I think Steve has the better argument that it is simply an ideology for unattractive women.

    If a physically attractive woman sprouts feminism, it is a sign there is something unattractive about her on the inside. Likewise, a homely girl who is anti-feminist likely has an inner beauty she believes the right guy will eventually see, or has already found.

    This is glib, more accurately it is an ideology for women who feel abandoned in any sense by men. One of the ur-feminists, Mary Wollstonecraft, had a useless, unreliable dad, for example. Whatever she looked like, she had plenty of reason to feel that one of the central male figures in her life was worthless and that she needed to be able to support herself as a man did.

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  138. @Lot

    Where were you working, Caligula?
     
    Yeah that passage is obvious BS. Puritan gays "reporting people" for "slightly revealing" pictures of girlfriends while posting "pics of themselves in jock straps and feather boas?" Really? Has anyone here, ever in their lives, worked with a gay person who had a picture of themselves in a jock strap and feather boa on their cubicle?

    This reads like a paranoid fantasy of a low-IQ sheltered college republican at a crappy liberal arts college.

    So many of your comments read like paranoid fantasies that I was surprised you went there.

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  139. @jack
    Lol at "anti-gentile animus". Most cute jewesses want to have sex with blond rich frat boys, and they're certainly not worried about a new holocaust.

    Sabrina is a feminist trying to make a name for herself. As a lefty, she resents straight white men, but probably doesn't excuse Jews from that resentment. White women have little to no racial loyalty, and that includes Jewish women. Half of Jews marry nonjews. And many feminists (and lefties) are not Jewish.

    The lefty sickness is in both Jews and white gentiles and we can fight back more clearly if we understand that.

    I talk about Erdely, you generalize about Jews. In fact, Erdely’s Rolling Stone article pointedly refers to blond, gentile students in a pejorative manner. I know lots of Jewish girls like gentile guys, and I liked me some Jewish girls in college too, but Sabrina Rubin Erdely wouldn’t plausibly fall into either category.

    I know most Jews don’t worry about a new, North American-based holocaust, but a surprising number do. Quite literally. A bit insulting, I find.

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    I know most Jews don’t worry about a new, North American-based holocaust, but a surprising number do. Quite literally. A bit insulting, I find.

    Mainstream jewish American author Philip Roth even wrote a novel describing a North American holocaust. The Plot Against America.

    You are right. It is insulting.
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  140. “SFG says:

    @mongo78

    Yeah, I’m with you. I always had the traditional resentment of beta males for alpha males (also known as the geek-jock split), but the feminists are so nasty they’ve made me root for the jocks. Which I would never thought possible 15 years ago.”

    I’m with you. In the fraternity row of life, I’m definitely a tri-lam, not an alpha-beta, but I’ll happily side with the frat-boy/BMOC/jock crowd over the feminist harpies and their enablers.

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  141. @David R. Merridale
    I talk about Erdely, you generalize about Jews. In fact, Erdely's Rolling Stone article pointedly refers to blond, gentile students in a pejorative manner. I know lots of Jewish girls like gentile guys, and I liked me some Jewish girls in college too, but Sabrina Rubin Erdely wouldn't plausibly fall into either category.

    I know most Jews don't worry about a new, North American-based holocaust, but a surprising number do. Quite literally. A bit insulting, I find.

    I know most Jews don’t worry about a new, North American-based holocaust, but a surprising number do. Quite literally. A bit insulting, I find.

    Mainstream jewish American author Philip Roth even wrote a novel describing a North American holocaust. The Plot Against America.

    You are right. It is insulting.

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  142. @Anonymous
    It's unlikely that the two reporters are related. Shapiro is a common Ashkenazi surname, and most Ashkenazi Jews who share a common surname are unrelated. Ashkenazi Jews have only had surnames for 200-250 years, and the common surnames were often adopted by unrelated families in multiple locations throughout Eastern Europe.

    Shapiro is a common Ashkenazi surname, and most Ashkenazi Jews who share a common surname are unrelated

    Aren’t most Ashkenazi Jews related?

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    Most Ashkenazi Jews are not related in a traceable fashion. Rather, the findings from population genetic studies are consistent with Ashkenazi Jews sharing a large number of ancestors in the distant past. An Ashkenazi who signs up for 23andMe will likely find many 3rd-5th cousins who aren't actually that closely related on genealogical charts.
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  143. @ben tillman

    I’m sure you all know about Jimmy Page abducting a 14-year old and imprisoning her for 18 months? Yeah, right. Well, I can’t blame you if all you did was read Rolling Stone.
     
    Rolling Stone hated Led Zeppelin from the start. I doubt they were covering anything up for them.

    Rolling Stone hated Led Zeppelin from the start. I doubt they were covering anything up for them.

    Why the hate? Same reason they hate white Southerners? I.e., fear and envy of talented, independent Northern European men?

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  144. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Shapiro is a common Ashkenazi surname, and most Ashkenazi Jews who share a common surname are unrelated

    Aren't most Ashkenazi Jews related?

    Most Ashkenazi Jews are not related in a traceable fashion. Rather, the findings from population genetic studies are consistent with Ashkenazi Jews sharing a large number of ancestors in the distant past. An Ashkenazi who signs up for 23andMe will likely find many 3rd-5th cousins who aren’t actually that closely related on genealogical charts.

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  145. […] reality, sex-criminals are not overwhelmingly blond. Power-abusing politicians and hate-inciting journalists aren’t necessarily blond either. For […]

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  146. […] genetic determinists, the IQ fetishists, the undercover racists, the Islamophobes, the rape–skeptics, the inequality-deniers, the opponents of capital and wealth taxes, the opponents of a liveable […]

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