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Women’s soccer is a big deal in the U.S. every four years during the Women’s World Cup because it wasn’t, until recently, a big deal in the rest of the world, allowing the U.S. team to win three women’s World Cups. For example, in their first game yesterday, the U.S. ladies defeated the Thai team 13-0, which says something about how seriously women’s soccer is taken in many countries that a team that bad can make the World Cup.

Anyway, the US women’s team of 23 players appears to feature 18 whites, 2 blacks, and 3 who appear to have black fathers and white mothers. I didn’t see anybody who appeared to be Hispanic or Asian, although I could be missing somebody who is a little of one of those.

Soccer in the US, both for boys and girls, is a famously middle class undertaking, oriented toward playing a lot of games and getting college scholarships. In a serious soccer country like the Netherlands, boys start young at drilling constantly one on one with a ball rather than jogging up down the field in an 11 on 11 game, with its dearth of touches of the ball. No Dutch kid who is any good dreams of going to college. He hopes to be a pro at 16.

The U.S. system isn’t at all good at winning the men’s World Cup, but, if you ask me, it seems better than the Dutch system for giving kids some healthy exercise on their way to a decent life.

But in the less competitive women’s World Cup, the American way of soccer seems to work fine.

There’s a lot to be said for institutions that are less competitive.

 
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  1. What’s wrong with boys playing soccer? – Ok -some of those later in life end up as blog commenters – but hey – not even that seems to be terribly wrong.

  2. “Women’s soccer is a big deal in the U.S. every four years during the Women’s World Cup”

    Pure Megaphonics. Nobody really cares about women’s soccer.

    “the US women’s team of 23 players appears to feature 18 whites, 2 blacks, and 3 who appear to have black fathers and white mothers. “

    But how many are witches?

  3. Phil says:

    Seems sort of shameful for your best player to be scoring their 5th goal in minute 87 when you were already up 11-0.

    I’m not a soccer expert, but shouldn’t the benches have been cleared by then?

    Seems like that’s what a classier operation would have done.

  4. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:

    I think there are many ways for a kid to live a “decent life” that are not Spielbergian. Kids who learn piano and violin from a young age, swimmers, figure skaters constantly on the road with mom sewing costumes, that young girl sailer from SoCal who almost soloed a circumnavigation a few years ago, but whose mast broke and she was rescued in the Indian Ocean by a French supply ship on its way to the Antarctic Kueguelan Islands that Poe wrote about. They live wonderful, but grueling, lives, but I fear that a sort of “child protective services” mentality will eventually turn us all into Millennials.

    And honestly, I think the Mexican “children in cages” may in the end have more interacting, memorable, and happy lives than suburbanites.

  5. The “love” for the Women’s World Cup is entirely corporate and artificial, outside the lesbians (small in number) who cheer wildly for it (much like they do the WNBA).

    The rest are SJWs and feminazis who feel like they should be seen supporting it, and are afeared of not supporting it enough, or saying something wrong about it. They likely are glad for its virtue-signalling opportunity: for a few weeks, they can act really into women’s sports and pretend equality, but after that can completely forget about it and wipe the sweat from their brows.

    No one really cares because women can’t play this sport nearly close to what men can. The U.S. national women’s team scrimmages boy’s high school and college teams, and all of them shellac the broads.

    I recall the last time this joke of a spectacle was on four years ago. I happened to be out and about in a large city, and stopped into a bar to use the bathroom during daylight hours. When I walked in, the place was crowded, but the entire place was silent, and I felt a huge tension in the air, like the Sharks and Jets were about to rumble. I looked up and saw that the U.S. women’s team was playing some other team late in the game.

    I’ve been in rooms where large groups of men were hugely interested in a tightly-contested athletic contest, and this tension was different. Everyone in the room was intense–not about the game, but about being seen as being into the game. It was surreal. I imagine this was what one of Stalin’s speeches were like right before the end, when everyone was dying to explode in clapping to prove how much they loved Papa Joe (and, more importantly, prevent being killed by him for under-enthusiasm).

    • Agree: Daniel H, Anonymoose
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    , @PaceLaw
    , @Dtbb
  6. jim jones says:

    Finally a thread on Unz that does not degenerate into a sea of baseball statistics.

    • LOL: Captain Tripps
    • Replies: @Bill B.
    , @njguy73
  7. Also, Hope Solo, the mudsharking, loud-mouthed, mannish, spazzing violent former goalkeeper for the U.S., is mouthing off again about this years team despite not being on it, hoping to boost up her Q score so she can get some reality show or else get hired for commentary somewhere.

    If soccer ever needed someone to emphasize that it’s not a lady-like sport, its her—much like the Williams monsters in female tennis, I’ll bet Hope Solo’s “stardom” has caused many younger girls to turn away from soccer and find something more feminine (such as track and field) in the last 10 years.

    I appreciate Solo for demonstrating that all those Victorians who were against females playing any sports—for fear of making them masculine and unattractive—were right.

  8. @Almost Missouri

    And how many are lesbians?

    • Replies: @Rosie
  9. Nobody really cares about women’s soccer.

    3.572 billion viewers
    A combined 3.572 billion viewers — more than half of the global population aged four and over — tuned in to watch the month-long tournament in Russia during June and July. The global in-home TV audience watching at least one minute of coverage totaled 3.262 billion.

    And that was then, in Russia – now in France there will be even more.

  10. Hail says: • Website

    18 whites, 2 blacks, and 3 who appear to have black fathers and white mothers

    I’ve created this convenient image using profile pics from USA Soccer.

    ____

    Unambiguous White players: 16 / 23

    Morgan Brian: White; the closest to being able to pass for Hispanic but unlikely has any such ancestry (born in [U.S. state of] Georgia)
    Abby Dahlkemper: White, classic NW-European look in most pics
    Tierna Davidson: White
    Julie Ertz: White, classic NW-European look in most pics
    Ashlyn Harris: White
    Tobin Heath: White, slightly exotic look
    Lindsey Horan: White, classic NW-European look
    Ali Krieger: White, possibly slightly exotic
    Rose Lavelle: White, Irish look
    Allie Long: White, classic NW-European look
    Samantha Mewis: White
    Alex Morgan: White
    Alyssa Naeher: White
    Kelley O’Hara: White
    Becky Sauerbrunn: White
    Emily Sonnett: White, classic NW-European look

    ____

    Unambiguous Black players 2 / 23

    Crystal Dunn: Black, quite dark
    Adrianna Franch: Black

    ____

    Racially Ambiguous players 5 / 23

    Carli Lloyd: Exotic, perhaps mainly-White mixed race
    Jessica McDonald: Black? (looks mixed; bears mother’s surname)
    Christen Press: Mixed race, light-skinned Black father
    Mallory Pugh: Mixed, half-Black?
    Megan Rapinoe: Her USASoccer profile pic appears exotic, but other pics generally make her look full-White, some with a light hint of exotic, maybe non-European or maybe peripheral European ancestry (like Armenian). No real help from pic of her parents. Megan Rapinoe kneels during the U.S. national anthem, or did, during the kneeling movement.

    If the aggregate ancestry of the category 1 is 98% White (thought it could well be ~100%), and cat. 2 is 20% White, and cat. 3 is aggregate 65% White, that would mean Women’s Soccer Team USA 2019 is 84% White (19.33 / 23.0), with all or nearly all the remainder Black.

    NW-European ancestry predominates within the White component, certainly forming a 50%+ majority of the team’s aggregate ancestry, though how big of a majority is unclear. Note that one-third of the unambiguous White players have German surnames, and most of the rest have British Isles surnames, mainly English.

  11. I am not so sure that Sailer is correct regarding the advantages of US vs. European soccer as a source of healthy exercise. In the British Isles, one often meets very fit 50 year old men who have been playing “competitive” soccer since they were very young and continue to do so. Comparable to basketball or tennis, better than golf or baseball, as a healthy source of sports fitness over many years. British child soccer players are also fit and healthy as a rule. The same is probably even more true in continental Europe.

  12. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    I’m more interested in the several fashy hairdos, and why they were all apparently ordered not to smile.

    Mass American culture, especially sports, is becoming more militaristic and repulsive.

    • LOL: Hail
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Mr. Anon
  13. . I didn’t see anybody who appeared to be Hispanic mestizo or Asian, although I could be missing somebody who is a little of one of those.

    I suspect you mean this or something very like it. (It’s what most mean when they use “Hispanic” as if it were an adjective for race, and, contra so many other scenarios wherein GloboHomo has exploited the Sapir-Worf phenomenon to its benefit, we do in fact have a perfectly serviceable term that accurately describes the thing in question in mestizo – or mestizoid, if you like – so do let’s use it!)

    Please don’t let’s feed the lie that speaking Spanish, or being from a place where that language is prevalent, is some kind of racial identifier any more than is true of Japanese, English, or Arabic. Please don’t let’s propagate the false and kooky language used to manipulate perceptions of reality and subtly inculcate GloboHomo’s agenda into unsuspecting readers.
    #HowDoYouTell?

    “Appears Hispanic”:

    “Appears Anglophonic (For Comparison)”:

    “Appears Sinophonic”:

  14. @Dieter Kief

    He was making the same goofy misuse of language people do when they call Orientals and Negroes “minorities” and European stock “the majority” – some goofy perspective that the any unqualified, quantitative statement necessarily can be based on what holds for the F.U.S.A., its being the entirely of the world (or, for those writers and speakers slightly more self-aware, will be understood by the audience to have bly been meant to apply to the F.U.S.A. – you’re a European, and, having lived in Europe, I will make bold to say you guys are (or should be) by now used to such silliness.

    (It’s sort of like how New Yorkers and San Franciscans call their cities “The City” – which, by the way, should always be responded to with the sincere, deadpan question “Which one?” for maximum hilarity at their ensuing baffled, smug assertions of your obtuseness and their superiority.)

    • Replies: @Dr. Flo Naze
  15. martin2 says:

    The BBC are really promoting the WWC and are showing some matches on BBC ONE even when they don’t feature a team from the British Isles. The trouble is that the quality of play relative to the man’s game is really chronic and the games are quite dull. They’re dull because the weaker sides can’t get the ball out of their half because no-one’s got the strength to punt the ball upfield, and there is never any display of breathtaking athleticism such as a powerful shot 40 yards from goal. So the upshot is that stereotypes about women being weaker than men and inferior to men in sporting activities are if anything reinforced.

    The Thailand team were diabolical and their game against the USA was a joke, but its women so the BBC commentators mustn’t laugh.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Father O'Hara
  16. I’m sorry but I find it really difficult to take a sport seriously when the players are engaged to be married to one another and to players on other teams against which they compete.

    I think I would feel the same way if Durant and Curry were engaged and LeBron was dating Anthony Davis.

    I suppose I’m obligated to passively support Team USA in the sense that I generally wish our Lesbians well against the World’s Lesbians, but I’m not going to watch any of the matches and will avoid the pointed hectoring about these women deserving to be paid outrageous sums of money to play a game which can only garner spectator interest once every four years.

  17. @Almost Missouri

    Nobody really cares about women’s soccer.

    In the Olympics, winning it would mean an extra gold medal, and that’d be valuable in the medal table. Exactly as valuable, as men’s soccer, or men’s basketball, or men’s tennis, etc.

    However, a single swimmer could win several gold medals (in some cases, even in just one day…), so it’s still just moderately valuable there.

  18. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri

    If by witches you mean lesbians….

  19. @Hail

    Now let’s determine the ratio of unambigous females to males.

    Christen Press, Mallory Pugh, Alex Morgan, Morgan Brian and Tierna Davidson are the only ones who didn’t set off my trannie detector.

  20. I don’t pay much attention to sports but have been struck by the carrying-on after the U.S.-Thailand match.

    Can someone who actually knows sports please tell me: Is it sort of bad sportsmanship to run up the score 13-0 in a match like this?

    And all the celebratory whooping and hollering afterward–a little ridiculous, no? It wasn’t like they’d defeated some major soccer power.

  21. Boys should think twice about trying to use soccer as a path to a college scholarship. Most colleges are dropping men’s sports right and left to funnel the money to football, basketball, and women’s sports.

  22. anon[334] • Disclaimer says:

    Kids in US soccer don’t start out playing 11 v 11. Practices typically feature small-sided passing exercises, and games start out at 6 v 6 at most.

    Regarding the US vs Thailand match, I’m guessing not many, if any, Thai players are lesbians. In any women’s sport, with the exception of figure skating, gymnastics and the like, the lesbian-dominated team will win for the same reason that pro women players lose to 14 y.o. boys – testosterone.

    I watched from the sidelines as my son’s so-so U-15 club team took apart a pro women’s team in a friendly featuring many NT players, including some on the current USWNT. The US women are technically and tactically very good, but the speed and strength difference vs. 14 yo boys is astounding. Folks who haven’t played or watched soccer don’t understand how much speed, strength and size matter in soccer.

    But the USWNT had the technical, tactical, AND physical advantages vs. Thailand, being bigger, stronger, and faster, hence the score. Besides, as Steve has pointed out, in women’s sports, participation rates matter, and except for a few woke Western countries, participation rates in women’s soccer are low. Whereas participation in men’s soccer is high everywhere.

    • Replies: @Anon
  23. Polynikes says:

    The U.S. way of athletic development is awful and isn’t used in any sport where we don’t have serious athletic advantages (e.g. Basketball) or else we get out butts kicked (soccer). High class or low class sports where you want to compete worldwide you need to start training, not just playing games, when you’re young. Soccer, golf, tennis, and boxing are just a few that come to mind.

  24. #AmericanWomensSoccerSoWhite

    • Replies: @Calvin Hobbes
    , @Anon7
  25. This is yet another area in which Ann Coulter and I agree completely. Soccer, aka, futeball, aka, Communist Kickball, is a stupid game. If I have a ball coming at me, I’ve got every right as an American to catch the thing, and throw it somewhere, for that matter.

    That’s not to say it’s not great for exercise compared to, oh, say baseball. If you want that much exercise though, outside, and with a total lack of aggressive, unsportsmanlike black players, play Ultimate Frisbee. If you get your kid involved make sure it’s not one of those mandatory weed-smoking leagues.

    • Replies: @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    , @anon
  26. @Hail

    Morgan, Lindsey, Sam, and Emily would be very pretty if they’d smile more. “Becky”? Seriously?

  27. 68W58 says:

    I watched a replay of yesterday’s game last night, I don’t think Thailand even had a shot on goal-at the very least they never had a good scoring opportunity while team USA could have scored another five goals with a few breaks. But I can’t muster any enthusiasm for team USA, Rapinoe’s kneeling stunt left a bad taste in my mouth. I gave up PSLs to my favorite NFL team over a kneeler and that is a sport I’ve cared about for a long time. If you’re going to represent our nation in international play you should show proper deference for the nation.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  28. Looking at the current standings, I see this World Cup is one of these events where Europe and the Americas invite the rest of the world to come get its ass kicked.

    So white supremacy can (must!) be enjoyed as long as it’s our women beating other women.

    Group A
    – 1 France
    – 2 Norway
    – 3 Nigeria
    – 4 South Korea
    Group B
    – 1 Spain
    – 2 Germany
    – 3 China
    – 4 South Africa
    Group C
    – 1 Brazil
    – 2 Italy
    – 3 Australia
    – 4 Jamaica
    Group D
    – 1 England
    – 2 Argentina
    – 3 Japan
    – 4 Scotland
    Group E
    – 1 Netherlands
    – 2 Canada
    – 3 New Zealand
    – 4 Cameroon
    Group F
    – 1 United States
    – 2 Sweden
    – 3 Chile
    – 4 Thailand

  29. bomag says:
    @Dieter Kief

    That was men’s.

    Women’s 2015 audience was in the tens of millions.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  30. When the men’s World Cup is held the odds are that even though they might not necessarily win, one of four countries will be favored: Brazil, Germany, Argentina or Italy. They’ve held a monopoly on world class soccer.Sometimes Spain, France or the Netherlands will sneak in but The Big Four are the ones to beat.

  31. @reiner Tor

    Swimming has always been an outlier sport for the sheer number of medals on offer for all of the distances, strokes, and relays. That’s why it is unlikely that an athlete from another sport will surpass Phelps’ gold medal count. Since few blacks swim competitively, it’s obviously a racist conspiracy.

  32. @Hail

    I’m just sad Carli Lloyd is still on the team.

  33. @Alec Leamas

    OUR lesbians can beat THEIR lesbians, and that’s all that matters! Team America, f*** yeah!

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  34. anon[181] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alec Leamas

    Real sports are largely determined by testosterone levels (with the obvious exception of pageantry sports like figure skating). That’s why they’re dominated by heterosexual males and homosexual females (and now the MTF trannies in women’s sports). The more combat-like a sport is, the more that’s the case.

    The female soccer and basketball players’ argument that they should be paid as much as their male counterparts is ridiculous. It is at best driven by a thorough misunderstanding of human nature and economics, and more likely is just straight grifting. They can never be paid much for their sports ability alone, given that they’re nowhere near being the best players in their sport (millions of teenage boys, let alone male pros, being better at it). If , for instance, the Thailand U-15 boys team, which is not very good, had played US women, what would have been the score – 20:0, 30:0?

    Female athletes only get paid well based on their combination of sports ability, popularity and commercial appeal, the latter usually being a function of sex appeal.

    In tennis, sexy, tall females, like Sharapova and Ivanovic can make a lot of money despite being objectively not that good at tennis (compared to the top 1000 or so males). But in tennis the lack of speed and strength in the women’s game is not such a huge problem, as watching some leggy blonde is a short skirt amble around the court is appealing in itself and therefore can be monetized. Conversely, watching a butch lesbian in long-shorts elbow her opponents near the goal or under the rim while demonstrating subpar athleticism and skill is not appealing at all. The majority of, e.g, WNBA players are just scary, with a few exceptions like Skylar Diggins and before her, Candace Parker.
    You could say, what’s the appeal of watching the roided-up Williams sisters or the tuber-shaped Naomi Osaka? Beats me, though apparently some soy boys found the Williams sisters appealing. Bill Simmons, aka the Sports Guy, has fantasized about being the meat in a Williams sisters sandwich, for one. I guess it depends on your particular sexual fetishes. Also, they sell product to Grrrrl Power types as ‘strong female models’ or some such.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  35. @Buzz Mohawk

    NYT comment:

    Charles
    SwitzerlandJune 10
    I will always support gender equality including in sports wholeheartedly. My bone with USWNT is the lack of diversity and seemingly white privilege. My Clintonian credo is: make the team look like America, and we will come. America is not a suburb!

  36. @Dieter Kief

    Well, in the US it was part of a commie plot to weaken our young men.
    Now that some Americans are starting to play soccer like it’s a real sport, soccer’s starting to get attacked as too violent.

  37. @Almost Missouri

    “Pure Megaphonics. ”

    Agreed. Even 15-20 years ago before I was done with espn, it was clear they were force feeding soccer and to a lesser extend the WNBA down its viewers’ throats.

    This artificial push for soccer in the US is just another proxy front in the “lie back back and think of diversity” struggle.

    The best women’s sport to watch is fastpitch softball.

    • Replies: @Xcommenter
    , @anon
    , @dr kill
  38. No separate but equal please. De-segregate soccer. Also have affirmative action.

    All goalies to be female + half the other players on the field for each team.

    If nothing else, it will make for higher scores for everybody.

  39. The U.S. system isn’t at all good at winning the men’s World Cup, but, if you ask me, it seems better than the Dutch system for giving kids some healthy exercise on their way to a decent life.

    If you’re a black kid coming from a poor neighborhood, maybe. Unfortunately, having lived in the US and Europe, the Dutch system works out much better for middle and upper class kids. Most kids, whether in the US or Europe, will never be professional soccer players, and most people in Europe figure that out by age 10. But so what? Most European kids who like soccer, join a club and keep playing anyway, for fun. Or they just play on the playground. They play all the time. In the US sports has become not just a path to a professional career, for the middle and upper middle class it is your ticket to a good college, potentially a scholarship. That creates a pressure cooker for excellent (but not elite) athletes that doesn’t exist in Europe. The Dutch still value sport for its own sake.

  40. Danindc says:

    These women are so unlikable.

    Even the cute Alex Morgan looks psychotic celebrating a goal to go up 12-0.

    Megan Rapinhoe may be the least likable female on the planet. The female Bill Maher.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Marty T
  41. Danindc says:
    @reiner Tor

    One of the rare times I disagree with our host. Euros seem to have lots of kickarounds with their racially homogeneous group of mates…looks like a good time. Only see that in the US w Mexicans at the park on the weekends.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  42. The US women’s team is better at international play than the men because winning internationally is their only real goal. Unfortunately, I suspect the powers that be are more interested in having the male players serve as an advertisement for MLS than they are in developing a long term program to foster the best male talent.

  43. Tiny Duck says:

    Black guys dominate men’s sports

    white girls dominate female sports

    No wonder they go so well together!

    Just look at the France soccer teams.

    The men’s team is very diverse and flavorful

    The women’s team is mostly white

    • Replies: @anon
  44. @Alec Leamas

    “I suppose I’m obligated to passively support Team USA in the sense that I generally wish our Lesbians well against the World’s Lesbians”

    Do you really want your nation to boast that it has the roughest, toughest, most manly women? I know rugby’s generally a sport for the bigger guy, but I don’t want my nation to have the biggest, most muscular women rugby players. That’s nothing to be proud of.

    Mind, I bet that Elizabeth Lambert would be fun to “date”.

  45. degsy88 says:

    The American system is also good for British boys who are good at the association game, but not great; I know of several lads who didn’t quite make it into the professional game having attended premiership or championship academies, but did get full rides at US colleges.

  46. istevefan says:

    I didn’t see anybody who appeared to be Hispanic or Asian,…

    There goes yet another justification given for the immivasion.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  47. Another feel-good story for female sports reporters. Just dump those photos and please run the Miss India contestants’ spread again.

  48. The U.S. team drubbing of Thailand was a display of very poor sportsmanship.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  49. They ran up the score on the Thais for all those extra group hugs

  50. It’s a big deal? News to me.

  51. @Peter Akuleyev

    The problem with adult recreational sports in the US is that, even at the lowest skill levels, there are way too many people who take their sport way too seriously and ruin it for everyone else.

    There are also tons of assholes with some skills who would much rather club baby seals than take on legitimate challenges in league suited to their skill level.

  52. @Alec Leamas

    No one outside the media cares about wimmens’ sports, but let the market decide — the gals’ real game here is getting endorsement deals for female personal care products and inedible health foods

  53. Women’s soccer is a big deal in the U.S. every four years during the Women’s World Cup because it wasn’t, until recently, a big deal in the rest of the world, allowing the U.S. team to win three women’s World Cups.

    I’ve heard it explained that in most soccer-mad, International powerhouse nations like Brazil the women don’t have an interest in playing the game and prefer the beach, or, alternatively, the society has little interest in providing girls with the infrastructure for them to play the game. That said, my understanding is that in places like Brazil kids learn their skills in unorganized games kicking the ball around on a dirt street.

    In contrast, in the U.S. boys have several sports from which to pick, most of which have NCAA programs and some of which have lucrative televised professional leagues.

    Of course in the U.S. we have dinosaur laws like Title IX which propose that girls and women have equal interest in sports compared with boys and men, and because generally women don’t play the overhead intensive sport of Football there is a lot of subsidizing of women’s soccer in order to compensate.

  54. @Hail

    Racially Ambiguous players 5 / 23

    – Jessica McDonald: Black? (looks mixed; bears mother’s surname)

    Jessica MacDonald, a mom, looks quite unusually masculine. Perhaps not, for a women’s soccer player?

  55. Bugg says:

    Do we have to pretend women’s sports are any good, and further that anyone much cares? The WNBA, for example, is basically the NBA’s penance. It loses money like crazy. Women do not watch televised sports anywhere near as much as men do.

    • Agree: PaceLaw
  56. Jan says:

    We’d love those percentages for the England Men’s football team. In their latest match 7 of the starting 11 were black or mixed race. Give it another ten years and England will be fielding a team without a white face.

  57. Just a friendly, though pedantic, reminder: it’s called football. What Americans play in the NFL is really handball. Most of the time you just run with the ball in your hands. The feet barely touch the ball in the US version. The European version is actual football. Let’s not confuse the two!

    As for the whamen’s world cup. The media here has been trying to get people excited about it but literally nobody cares. I don’t think all women’s sports are boring. Tennis is for example a sport where the divide between men and females is quite marginal. A lot of people care about women’s tennis. But that sport is an outlier.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @Noman
  58. Anon_NPC says:

    two points. The US Team embarrassed themselves yesterday w/ their over the top celebrations in their 13-0 win over Thailand. Classless. Vulgar. Disgusting. Obnoxious. It’s either women being women, completely clueless about sportsmanship and vindictive to the core or a peculiarly American failing. My bet’s on the former.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7130947/US-team-slammed-disgusting-obnoxious-celebrations.html

    The US Team was beaten by a team of 15 year-old boys. It wasn’t close. 5-2.

    https://www.90min.com/posts/4833646-some-people-think-it-s-funny-that-the-usa-women-s-national-team-were-apparently-beaten-by-u15-boys

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    , @Old Prude
  59. @Peter Akuleyev

    Professional sports are as old as civilization but ideally, athletic competition should be an amateur activity to build character and keep people fit, not a professional entertainers’ guild. I hadn’t realized that rugby union didn’t go pro until 1995. It is what it is.

  60. Old Prude says:
    @Hail

    Wow. Who decided to have these girls pose and grimace like that? They scare me. Maybe they’re meant to intimidate the opposition? If so, GOOD JOB!

  61. JMcG says:
    @Dieter Kief

    One minute?! That’s easy to do accidentally.

  62. @PiltdownMan

    Much like Jesse Jackson, if I saw her coming down the street at me I would cross.

  63. the U.S. ladies defeated the Thai team 13-0, which says something about how seriously women’s soccer is taken in many countries that a team that bad can make the World Cup.

    Poland’s men’s Olympic ice hockey team once lost a game by around thirty goals. They didn’t even have the excuse of being the host team– the hosts automatically qualify for every sport.

    Also, how many places are there, and how many countries aiming to qualify? Some South American countries practically banned women’s soccer for a long time.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  64. @PiltdownMan

    She plays for Garage? They should challenge Arsenal or Distillery’s women’s squads.

  65. @Hail

    Thanks for the post and the nice work with the photos. The team was probably told not to smile to show that they are serious about being paid more.

    Adrianna Franch is biracial with a white mother. They received a Habitat for Humanity house in Salina, Kansas when Adrianna was 10. No mention of the father. She likes to be called AD. It is not uncommon for biracial females and the daughters of singers (Cher, Sade, R Kelly) to have identity issues. https://www.instagram.com/p/BbZZeZnj7C8/

    Jessica McDonald’s father was in and out of prison and mother was drug addict. She lived with relatives as a child. McDonald and her son from a black man now live with a couple she met through soccer. The couple takes care of the son when McDonald is away playing soccer.

    I couldn’t find any proof of Crystal Dunn being immigrant stock. Her father Vincent is an attorney, SUNY Buffalo law school. Both parents are natives of NYC and happened to move to Long Island, a soccer mecca, when Crystal was 2. (John Urschel’s (NFL/MIT PhD math) black mother went to the same law school.)

    Carli Lloyd wrote a memoir. She is estranged from her family. She wasn’t invited to her sister’s wedding nor told about her father’s open heart surgery until afterwards.

    Mallory Pugh
    – black father, white mother. In high school, father ran track and played football, mother long-distace runner. Father ran track at Western State. https://girlssoccernetwork.com/lifestyle/parents-behind-players-love/

  66. @Peter Akuleyev

    I just saw a big sign at a boy’s league field:

    1. I’m just a kid.
    2. It’s just a game.
    3. The coaches are volunteers.
    4. The officials are human.
    5. No college scholarships will be given out today.

    Except for calling managers “coaches”, this is perfect.

  67. @Alec Leamas

    In contrast, in the U.S. boys have several sports from which to pick, most of which have NCAA programs and some of which have lucrative televised professional leagues.

    There are only a few that have both NCAA programs and lucrative televised professional leagues: baseball (for which the primary track is not necessarily college baseball), football, and basketball. That’s it. I guess you could count hockey under certain circumstances.

    The best sport for white boys in America right now is probably wrestling. It doesn’t produce the most moneyed opportunities (American Olympic wrestlers were once famously underpaid), but it has the capability of producing the best holistic results. Wrestling, like a lot of other boys’ sports, has been attacked by Title IX. Probably not coincidentally, the big money college sports – football and basketball – are by far the blackest.

  68. @istevefan

    It will be spun as another case for more immigration: the team is not diverse enough, because of a dearth of immigrant kids, which must be rectified, or else it’d stay un-diverse forever, which we just can’t let happen, because that’s not who we are.

    • Replies: @Anon7
  69. @Hail

    If there aren’t any transwomen in that group now just wait four years. In eight years every single woman on the United States women’s world cup team could be a transwoman.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  70. @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe the managers get a nominal salary from fees for registration but the coaches don’t?

    (I doubt it; I’m just trying to give the “single mom” who probably made the sign the benefit of the doubt.)

  71. Believe it or not, Thailand isn’t even the worst Asian team to be in the World Cup, since they placed ahead of South Korea in the 2018 Asian Cup. BTW South Korea is already 0-2, with their biggest defeat being 4-0 at the hands of host France.

    The amazing thing is that based on the world rankings, Thailand isn’t even the worst team in our group. That honor goes to Chile, who we play on Fathers Day at 6 (9 am Sailer Time). Chile came in 2nd in the 2018 South American Cup, so we will see who is better, the 2nd South American team or the 4th Asian team.

    • Replies: @sb
  72. Hans says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Of course everyone cares about “women’s” soccer: “they work just as hard as the men do.”

    If you don’t want to be bused in under armed guard to their matches in the future, you’d best get behind them now. Damn those snowflake Thai pussies. They need to man up.

    Trump is an existential threat to our democracy.

  73. c matt says:
    @Dieter Kief

    He said WOMEN‘s soccer. The WC in Russia was MEN‘s soccer.

    It’s like the difference between the NBA and the WNBA. Although at least women’s soccer seems to have more attractive women.

  74. #USWNTsoWhite

    I will watch it when it has more diversity. Which white female is going to step down so a woman of color can join the team? Ridiculous and embarrassing that the US is fielding such a team in the CURRENT YEAR when so much diversity is available in the US for women of color.

    Plain Racist.

  75. @Reg Cæsar

    Asia was allocated 5 teams in the World Cup, and 24 attempted to qualify. Thailand was the 4th team, with South Korea fifth.

    As for South America, they were allocated 2½ teams in the World Cup, with 10 attempting to qualify. The half team ended up getting in as well, so they have 3. Chile, who we play on Fathers Day, was team 2.

  76. A power move would be for a country to construct a womens soccer team out of men who identify as women and oblierate the competition.

    That’s something I’d love to see.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  77. DCThrowback says: • Website
    @Dieter Kief

    those are the mens’ world cup numbers boss. people actually care about that – because the men’s world cup is f**king awesome.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  78. @Hail

    Megan Rapinoe kneels during the U.S. national anthem, or did, during the kneeling movement.

    It’s funny. The one black chick in the picture is standing with her hand over her heart looking patriotic and the one kneeling is a white lesbian. (She’s got to be lesbian, right?)

    Also, is that the team’s bench in the photo? Car seats?

    • Replies: @Hail
  79. Polynikes says:
    @Alec Leamas

    Soccer is one of the more female hetero sports. Along with tennis is guess. Which ones are married to each other?

  80. @Peter Akuleyev

    I think there’s a misunderstanding her; the same there was a few years ago, after our host had read an article about the academy of Ajax Amsterdam, the biggest club in the Netherlands. There, and in the academies of other big clubs, the young men are indeed coached intensely and train at least five times a week. Besides this and school, there is not much time for leisure, and the teenagers in those academies tend not to drink, do drugs, or stay out late. If you don’t make it with a professional team, you might mourn a lost youth, and most will not make it. However, almost every top-flight European professional used to be with one of the academies.

    Most of the thousands and thousands of soccer clubs, however, are not like this at all. Kids there may train twice a week and harbour no particular illusions about becoming a professional later on. (School sports play no major role.)

    I think Steve’s under the impression that most clubs work like Ajax. They don’t.

  81. I’m surprised Steve didn’t bring up the big controversy over the 13-0 win. It sure looks like the US Women’s team went out of their way to run up the score, and certainly couldn’t stop themselves from celebrating every last goal. If the men did this, nobody would hesitate to lambaste them for it.

    Driven women don’t seem to get how to rein in their competitiveness, whether it’s a failure of nature or nurture. They too easily turn into Madame Defarge.

  82. RH says:

    Here is why the USA men’s soccer team is useless: If you can’t make the football team, or the basketball team, or the baseball team, or the swimming team, or the volleyball team, or the golf team, or the lacrosse team, well, then you play soccer or rugby. The rest of the world does not understand this. If the guys who play in the NFL, NBA, the Majors, etc., played soccer, you would see results like USA vs Thailand.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Peter Akuleyev
  83. You would think that there would be lots of Hispanic girls playing soccer, but in fact female culture in the Hispanic community revolves around cooking, getting married early, and having babies. The boys play soccer.

    In America, middle and upperclass white girls are shuttled into sports, and the team sports that predominate are softball, basketball, and soccer, with lacrosse an up and comer. These team sports are great for colleges in that it’s easier to get good Title 9 balance when you have 3 or 4 girls teams with 70+ females playing varsity sports.

    It’s no wonder we have done well in the women’s world cup. However, Euro nations, like France and England, are fast coming up because they are replicating the club model for females–youth teams attached to professional clubs. In the US, players are produced in the elite suburban, and largely white, middle upper class enclaves.

    Personally, I find women’s version of men’s sports pretty much unwatchable. This is especially true of soccer — if you watch, say, a bottom of the table Premier league game compared to the US women’s national team, the quality differences, let alone the athletic differences, are staggering. The sport is slower, less dynamic, less technically proficient.

    The other thing that is interesting about women’s soccer is the common body type for the elite female. It’s plain as day: no tits, no ass, an almost boyish physique. Hourglass figures, even if thin, are suboptimal. And of course, that makes sense: carrying fat, even well proportioned fat, does not make for good VO2 max.

    Finally, in any large pool of female athletes playing at a sport’s higher levels, there will be a significant portion of girls who tear their ACLs because most DON’T have the boyish body type. The splayed hips and pushed in knees of a typical female body type are not conducive to quick forceful plants and changes of direction required in activities requiring high energy bursts.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  84. Obviously the main reason for US women’s soccer dominance internationally is that colleges are obliged to offer an equal number of sports scholarships to women as to men, and there are not many girls who want to play American Football.

    This means that the best female soccer players in the US get 4 years of intensive coaching and training in a competitive environment in what is really a semiprofessional or preprofessional environment. It also means that the US has far more well-paid salaried positions with benefits for women’s coaches than other countries.

    My sister was the coach of a very successful girls team in the UK, in her spare time from being a physician, and her two daughters both became international players, one of whom attended college in the US, but this situation was exceptional.

    Even though my niece was an exceptionally talented young player who had played for two UK championship winning teams (Liverpool and Everton), she was in no way recruited by US colleges, but I looked up a list of good women’s soccer colleges for her on the Internet, found e-mail addresses for coaches and she wrote to them with her resume and sent some video and received multiple full scholarship offers. After 4 years in the US, she obtained a Bachelors degree in Math and Physics, and returned to Europe.

    A bit similar to golf, where nearly all top US players are college alumni, whereas most top foreign players did not go to college at all, unless they came to the US to play college golf. The game in other countries exists almost entirely at the club level.

    In professional mens soccer, it is extremely unusual for a professional player in the UK to have attended any kind of college, although colleges and universities do have soccer teams. The difference is that the game is played seriously at club level and college level soccer is mainly recreational.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  85. anonymous[173] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dieter Kief

    It’s soulless shit that just trains boys to be little sissycucks in the globohomo machine.

    That’s what’s wrong with it.

    There’s no struggle, no fight, no pain, no honor, no glory, no winners, no losers.

    In short, it does nothing to develop boys into men. It develops boys into soyboys who understand taking orders from HR shrews.

    Steve, as usual, is taking the retarded Boomer position. But boomers were wrong about literally everything.

  86. I didn’t see anybody who appeared to be Hispanic or Asian, although I could be missing somebody who is a little of one of those.

    Mexican-Americans women play for Mexico. It is easier to make the Mexican national team and probably not much difference financially. Five of the 20 players on the Mexican national team are Americans and one is Mexican-Spanish. In addition, several other Mexican-Americans “were called up to the squad in the last 12 months”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_women%27s_national_football_team

    Culture-wise, I think the jockularity and team aspect of soccer and is a poor fit for most Asian-American women. Asian-American women seem content dominating individual sports like elite college golf, figure skating, table tennis, etc.

  87. AnonAnon says:

    Compared t0 men’s soccer, and especially the elite European teams, women’s soccer is slow and boring. However, as far as women’s sports go it’s relatively pleasant to watch – the women are slender, normal-sized, look feminine (mostly), and they wear short shorts, so I can see why a lot of men tune in.

    It takes years to become a good player and most American rec-tier teams prioritze winning rather than working on touches and passing. Soccer is relatively new so most volunteer coaches (i.e., dad of a player) never played and have no idea what they’re doing. It isn’t until you move to pricey club level do you get decent coaching but you have to do your homework because the elite SoCal clubs have merged/swallowed smaller clubs and franchised out like McDonalds and now have tiers that are equivalent to your typical recreation league (to make money to scholarship in those elite tier players and Olympic Development Teams). A lot of the club teams in SoCal have European or South American coaches or have coaches that also coach at UCLA/USC or other local colleges.

    Based on my peer parent college admission results of the last few years, if I had a daughter I’d put her into volleyball instead. You don’t have to be athletically gifted or start them playing in kindergarten, and if you luck out and your girl reaches 6’ you can get a lot of money or, if she’s also super smart, easier entry into the truly elite schools. However, college dreams aside, soccer is relatively safe, not boring like baseball, and a great sport to tire kids out so I think every kid should try it for a season.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @ScarletNumber
  88. The US women’s soccer team has all the elements of the “bad guy team” in one of those David vs Goliath motivational movies. Their behavior is so awful, how great would it be if some underdog team took them out? It would be great for women’s soccer.

  89. @Reg Cæsar

    I’ve seen variations of that sign in a number of places.

    If you talk to seasoned parents, they will tell you the worst parents are at the youngest age groups. I still remember a championship game in a U10 tournament (I won’t say which sport) where the parents from the opposing team were constantly screaming at the officials claiming my kid was cheating. My kid wasn’t cheating. My kid made some plays that sealed the victory, which really pissed off the other team’s parents.

    A few years later, tense playoff game in a 14U tournament. The officials yelled at the parents for being too quiet. “We’ve got a 2-1 game here! Make some noise”.

    Last year at some 16U tournaments. Coaches drafted me into some duties because they couldn’t find any other parents around.

  90. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    , @Redneck farmer
  91. JMcG says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    If I might ask, what does it cost to join a Soccer Club in the U.K.? Travel soccer here in the US seems to be a gold mine. Not just soccer either, every sport is eye wateringly expensive these days.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    , @Anonymous
  92. @Triumph104

    Carli Lloyd is white. Both parents are clearly white. She was engaged to someone for like over a decade, but her dedication to soccer over everything else in life means at 37, she’s running out of time to start a family. There’s nothing but soccer going on in that chick’s life, probably wouldn’t know what to do (except coach a HS soccer team) outside the game when she’s unceremoniously dumped from the team.

    Christen Press is biracial, and comes from a very well off family.

    There is apparently one player missing this year, and that’s Hope Solo. She was unceremoniously dumped after the 2016 loss in the Olympics and hasn’t played for the USWNT since.

    • Replies: @Hail
  93. @Jonathan Mason

    In other words what you’re saying is that the UK has no NCAA conference style system at the university level for club sports, say, Cambridge and Oxford would be in division 1 level, while University of London would be in division 2 level.

    And NCAA is a multi-billion dollar annual business in the US. Perhaps the UK isn’t all that interested in making money at the collegiate level off of team sports.

  94. Barnard says:
    @candid_observer

    Predictably the eternal victims on the U.S. women’s soccer claim they wouldn’t be criticized if they were men. Big time college football teams have been getting criticism for running up the score against cream puff non conference opponents they schedule for 50 years or so. As with all these issues, the facts don’t matter to the victims.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  95. @Alec Leamas

    “I’m sorry but I find it really difficult to take a sport seriously…”

    I agree completely with your statement up to word 13, but leaving out, “I’m sorry but”

    I was amused by the concept of our lesbians vs. your lesbians (I’m pretty sure you don’t have to capitalize “lesbian” though).

  96. Anon[821] • Disclaimer says:

    If American universities recruit some of their students based on how fast they swim or run (well, not really, we’re not talking actual top athletes, just silly mimes), what stops them from recruiting the best tree climbers? Or rather, the winners of the county tree climber competition.

  97. @candid_observer

    Remember all the hullabaloo over “bullying” a few years ago?

    That seems to have died down as the feminist dominated Left has moved on to Trump derangement and hating whitey.

    Where’s the outrage over bullying after this obscene display?

    • Replies: @Pericles
  98. I remember many years ago Steve wrote a column in which he stated that club soccer was a way for upper middle class white guys to keep their daughters from the riff-raff, esp non-white riff-raff, while they competed at a high level in sports.

    Not long afterwards one of my kids participated in a sports tournament in Wisconsin. My kid is mixed race. She was the only kid on her team with brown eyes. All the rest had blue eyes.

    When we got to the tournament, she was the only kid there who wasn’t white. Only half-white

  99. Any trans players? That would get my attention.
    Perhaps the other countries can stock up on trannies and have a better chance of beating the USA,while getting points for social justice!

  100. PSR says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Care to make a wager on viewership for the women’s WC? It will be blip in the ratings.

  101. Do the Brazilian women soccer players still shave their heads? The last time I watched the women’s soccer world cup on TV (1999, when the final was played in the Rose Bowl), all the Brazilian players had shaved heads. I asked my wife about that, and she explained it was so they could go home, grow their hair, and not be recognized as some of those women who play soccer.

  102. Anon7 says:
    @reiner Tor

    Already working on it!

    Minnesota Aldi team wins the 2017 Somali American Soccer Championship over Seattle State at the vibrantly diverse Augsberg College in Minneapolis.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  103. @candid_observer

    Might be more of a lesbian thing than a woman thing.

  104. @Paleo Liberal

    Most liberals live in heavily segregated areas as soon as they can afford it.

  105. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan

    She looks quite fine to me.

    • Replies: @Anon
  106. Shocking to see that a bunch of American lesbians lack sportsmanship, grace or empathy.

    • Replies: @Bill B.
  107. OT,sorry,but after reading the Derbs excellent take on the Central Park 5, I am hoping the Dear Leader will talk about this at length.
    It appears the netflix show is pure BLM agitprop.
    Donald Trump being central to the story is also a truth stranger than fiction moment.
    I might add that years ago I came to iSteve as Trayvon was exploding. Unlike Dear Leader,who seemed to equivocate , I saw clearly what had happened and laid out accurately and with, I daresay,uncanny prescience, da truth. (The moment,and I mean the moment,I heard the Jussie Smollett saga, I saw through that too. Admit it some of youse guys were a little hesitant to call a spade a spade!)
    The defensestration of Fairstein is a cruel and nasty sideshow.
    Read Derb,it’ll make you sick.

  108. Matra says:
    @candid_observer

    Flashback to Barcelona 1992

    The US Dream Team is lording it over minnows like Angola with Charles Barkley mocking them on the court. The whole world notes the American lack of sportsmanship.

    I’m watching conservative Fred Barnes on the McLaughlin Group saying it is great. The whole country is proud of them. We’re #1. There is no controversy. Liberal Eleanor Clift claims women are embarrassed by the Dream Team’s behaviour so the US is divided on them by gender.

    Given the antics of the women, led by the Kapaernick kneeler whose name I can’t be bothered looking up, either Clift was wrong in 1992 or American women have adopted the worst characteristics of black American men. Progress!

  109. MikeJa says:

    From my own limited experience I’d say there aren’t as many US boys playing soccer as in Europe but the ones that do, get driven to training by their moms. Whereas in Europe it is mostly kids kicking a ball around without adults present. I’m a bit surprised the US men’s team isn’t doing better.

    The key to the women’s success is down to the number of players relative to other countries. Women’s football is a minority sport in most of Europe.

  110. @candid_observer

    If the men did this, nobody would hesitate to lambaste them for it.

    No, men are expected to compete hard and give their all. I think there would also be a lot less sympathy for a men’s team that showed up to a world showcase so unprepared. The “poor little Thai girls” seem to be getting a pass.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  111. Bill B. says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    I live much of the time in Thailand. I have never heard of anyone playing women’s soccer outside of games like these. The Thais are mad about the English premier league and have a sort-of league of their own. It must be played somewhere but it has a VERY low profile.

    Women’s soccer is fine as an amateur game and an Olympic sport but it is diabolical to watch. Our host made a joke a while back when one of the US team’s star players ‘took a knee’ saying it raises the philosophical question of whether a protest is really a protest if it takes place in an empty stadium.

    Would even the US team beat a good schoolboy team? The Australians were thrashed IIRC by a team of 14-year-old boys.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  112. PSR says:
    @candid_observer

    “Women and children can afford to be careless, but not men.”

    While the women get to have their ‘look at us’ moment they won’t understand why other teams hate them or why other teams will try to run up the score on them. Most womens’ imaginations stretch a mile wide and an inch deep.

  113. Alex Morgan has a very pleasant, meaty rump and finely shaped legs and she is a positively delightful picture of the female athletic form.

    The internet says she is English and German and Welsh. That is a good combination of blood to keep the fiery intensity of competition and strength burning hot. The Welsh adds a dash of impish good humour and fair play, although the thrashing of Thailand was perhaps a poor demonstration of good sportsmanship.

    Alex Morgan appears to be married to a Spaniard Mexican Mestizo type man who also plays soccer.

    There are a lot of people in the USA with English and German ancestry. Alex Morgan is a prominent one.

    I have English and German ancestry. I don’t think Alex Morgan’s German ancestry is from colonial Virgina like mine is.

    https://www.si.com/swimsuit/model/alex-morgan/2019/photos#27 via @SI_Swimsuit

    https://www.si.com/swimsuit/model/alex-morgan/2019/photos#27 via @SI_Swimsuit

  114. @Almost Missouri

    Nobody really cares about women’s soccer.

    It’s been many years since I cared about any sport, to say nothing of women’s soccer (in relation to which common phrases involving rats’ assess and two shits could scarcely do justice to my degree of apathy); and so confirmed am I in this outlook that I no longer sympathize with its contrary, viz. the question “Why are people interested in sports?” is one I am not able to answer without an admixture of judgment and derision. When I think of the enormous sums of money spent by people already living paycheck to paycheck, the frenzied emotions displayed not only in big league bleachers but along little league sidelines, the parents endlessly ferrying their charges between activities, it all seems so unnatural. Nobody in their right mind should really want to do any of this; it is a horrible, miserable, violent affectation whenever it is not unconscious dissipation and vice.

    Conspicuous consumption certainly accounts for much of the motivation here, as does a closely allied species of egotism, “conspicuous busyness,” i.e. the desire to advertise to the world how important you are by always zooming around like you haven’t got time to think. This is one of our society’s favorite fig-leafs for unchecked selfishness. The hyperactive hockey mom is really nothing but a completely self-absorbed drama queen whose behavior is tolerated only because it can be referred back to something done “for her children.” And strangely enough, society is by and large willing to acquiesce in this hypocrisy as long as sports are involved. Bosses don’t argue when employees go flying out the door 25 minutes early because “my son’s got a baseball game,” and even the sabbath and its observances and its dress code have long since yielded to the self-evident sovereignty of the sports culture. The pampering of athletes is too well known a phenomenon to need further discussion here.

    But once you combine all this with America’s other great fetish of the hour, the cult of Girl Power, the conditions are set for such a perfect storm of vanity that no mortal force can hope to prevail against it. Girls in our society are already praised and encouraged and benefited far beyond their desserts, simply because they are female. A female who is also a competitive athlete is literally immune from all criticism. It’s no wonder that our country produces these grotesques, these gorgons of female athletics. From the time they were old enough to kick a ball, they have been spared any burden of having to care about—nay, even to think about—anything but themselves and their vainglorious pursuit of soccer stardom.

    Yet these Harriets of Fire do evoke any real love or admiration. They are at best a marketing gimmick for brand name electrolyte Kool-Aid, at medium an Ibsenian heroine manufactured to personify a deconstructionist social critique, and a worst a cancerous lesion bred by our societal skinny-dipping in the noxious sludge of self-empowerment. What’s needed is national leader who will not only not invite such creatures to the White House, but who will pull the plug on the whole American sports-obsessed Achieve-o-tron with its scholarships, corporate endorsements, and pathetic abasement before its idols.

  115. PaceLaw says:

    At least the Thai team got a free trip to Paris out of it.

  116. Alex Morgan is listed at 5 feet 7 inches tall and 137 pounds — that’s a good solid woman.

    I bet she can eat what she wants when she’s running up and down the field all the time.

  117. @Dieter Kief

    Krauts play Fußball anyway.

    What the association has to do with anything no one knows.

  118. @Paleo Liberal

    Ruling class whites have all kinds of ways to segregate themselves. They’re mystified that badwhites are so poor at it.

    Guess I should say ourselves. I wasn’t around many blacks as a kid, and have had my choice since. Feeling a little pinch now for the first time with my kids, but worst case they’re still good (patriotic) blacks.

  119. @Peter Akuleyev

    No, men are expected to play with good sportsmanship, a word that tellingly has not been neutered. There is no feminine equivalent of honor.

  120. peterike says:

    Maybe it’s just me paying less attention, but the Wimmens World Cup fan enthusiasm seems to have fallen below hysterical excitement, which it’s been in the past. Maybe it’s still early in the tournament, or the media hasn’t turned up the jets yet, since they’re too busy looking for bad things to write about Trump.

  121. @Hail

    These pics go a long way to explain why the trans takeover of women’s sports has met so little resistance. It was already halfway there.

  122. @candid_observer

    I agree with your second point but I have to disagree with your first: “If the men did this, nobody would hesitate to lambaste them for it”. America is the country of the Highway of Death, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib Prison and putting Ezra Pound in a cage. If anything, Americans would be taunting and mocking their men’s soccer team if they showed signs of gentlemanly conduct.

  123. @Dieter Kief

    What’s wrong with boys playing soccer? – Ok -some of those later in life end up as blog commenters – but hey – not even that seems to be terribly wrong.

    The Blog Commenter Beer Hall Putsch is on its way.

    It’s just been delayed a bit by the ruling class of the American Empire with monetary extremism and propaganda crackdowns.

    What kind of potato salad goes with Blog Commenter Beer Hall Putsch Lager?

    Hamburgers and potato salad and lager at the Blog Commenter Beer Hall Putsch sounds good!

  124. Coag says:

    Couple years ago the defending Women’s World Cup champions lost to a Dallas under-15 boys team.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4389760/amp/USA-women-s-team-suffer-5-2-loss-FC-Dallas-U-15-boys.html

    • Replies: @Rosie
  125. @Hail

    The three goalkeepers are also IMO the three most masculine looking players, and that’s on a team with an already large number of man jaws.

  126. @Intelligent Dasein

    The phucking proles only want ale and soccer(football for you English wankers) and a bit of tail in a taxi and a poem by MacNeice and a bit of a row with the neighbors and some physical work and some drama about town and then they’re manageable for sure.

    It’s those bastard noticers who screw everything up!

    Let’s talk about skinny-dipping in the noxious sludge of self-empowerment — good one! — instead of globalized central banker shysters with negative interest rates and low interest rates and dollar swaps and quantitative easing and demography.

    How about Alex Morgan? I’m asking kind of confidentially — ain’t she sweet?

  127. Bill B. says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Is it cruel. If every other team bangs a bucketful past Thailand then it could matter.

    Teams are normally primed to drive forwards – even if it becomes training.

    Try ask the New Zealand All Blacks to go soft…

  128. @Reg Cæsar

    Referring to a head coach as a manager is mostly a pro baseball designation.

    College and high schools refer to their head baseball coaches as head coaches. Same in all the little leagues I’ve seen in baseball and softball.

  129. Olorin says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I agree overall about “conspicuous busyness,” but there’s also the matter of where that busyness is targeted–and what group instincts inform and shape it.

    Some ladies race around taking their offspring to an endless round of social and political and recreational events, partly to signal their own dedication/leisure, partly to keep the sprogs out of trouble, or whatever. But I agree that soccer scholarships are an extremely specific aspiration for parents and their daughters.

    For, you see, other ladies groom their daughters endlessly, energetically, one could even say aggressively…for a future seat on the US Supreme Court. After a requisite stint in ROTC as the college path.

    That’d likely accumulate way more future street cred in power circles than, “I was on TV playing sports and got a swimsuit shot in Sports Illustrated.”

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The daughter of Yale Law School professor and “tiger mom” Amy Chua, who praised Justice Brett Kavanaugh as a mentor to women after his nomination to the Supreme Court, is going to work for Kavanaugh this summer.

    Yale Law graduate Sophia Chua-Rubenfeld will serve as a law clerk to Kavanaugh for a year, beginning this summer, the court confirmed Monday. Chua-Rubenfeld had planned to work for Kavanaugh when he served as a federal appeals court judge, but his Supreme Court nomination intervened.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/entertainment/articles/2019-06-10/daughter-of-tiger-mom-chua-picked-as-kavanaugh-law-clerk

    On the topic of Tweets That Didn’t Age Well:

    Interesting, that Rubenfeld after the hyphen. Did she have to convert? One thing’s for sure though. Mr. Rubenfeld was likely well prepped by his own mother for this particular mother in law.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    , @Barnard
    , @Clyde
  130. Bill B. says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    The Welsh adds a dash of impish good humour and fair play

    I used to know people who tried out for rugby clubs in Wales and even for the national level teams. Very, very hard and utterly ruthless.

  131. @Intelligent Dasein

    But once you combine all this with America’s other great fetish of the hour, the cult of Girl Power, the conditions are set for such a perfect storm of vanity that no mortal force can hope to prevail against it. Girls in our society are already praised and encouraged and benefited far beyond their desserts, simply because they are female.

    A female who is also a competitive athlete is literally immune from all criticism. It’s no wonder that our country produces these grotesques, these gorgons of female athletics. From the time they were old enough to kick a ball, they have been spared any burden of having to care about—nay, even to think about—anything but themselves and their vainglorious pursuit of soccer stardom.

    Alex Morgan looks good nearly naked in Sports Illustrated, though, amirite?

    So, what if American TV producer millionaire Rob Tapert was trying to make a humorous point about this cult of Girl Power horseshit by having lesbian favorite Lucy Lawless as Xena throw around some 300 hundred pound Maori guys in a TV show? I’ll speak for myself here — Americans such as I are too dense to get the concept or the joke.

    Same thing with Oliver Stone trying to make a point about pervasive pop cultural violence by making a violent movie that most boobs just saw as a violent movie.

    How about Mette Frederiksen in Denmark? How about ten years of negative interest rates in Denmark? The Girl Power cult is crap but occasionally a dame gets it. Mette Frederiksen is a lady political leader who wants to protect the welfare state in Denmark by deporting foreigners and dramatically reducing or completely halting all immigration. That’s good, even if she has to use some Girl Power cult crap to do it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  132. Olorin says:
    @Olorin

    Wait, woah, yo–scratch that, I was on hold and growling at the godawful on-hold music, my pronouns mangled, then my brain followed.

    Hard anyway to keep those Tiger Gals separate in the brain…..

    Tiger Mom’s married to Rubenfeld, the Yale Law prof. But still, I don’t know whether Tiger Mom had to convert. In her Jed himself might have married his own mother.

  133. I can understand the team’s running the score up, as the number of goals scored could affect rankings in the tournament. The celebratory attitude after, oh, the fifth or sixth goal was repugnant, and they should have knocked it off. Remember, many of these same people get into a huff over DJT’s outbursts.

  134. @Anon_NPC

    With Thai players left in tears, fans and commentators have slammed the ‘disgusting’ celebrations

    So of course,

    U.S. coach Jill Ellis said she wondered if a similar victory in a men’s World Cup would elicit the same questions.

    But I guess, unlike baseball, there is crying in soccer.

  135. Gicu says:
    @Phil

    Agreed, In men’s soccer, if one teams goes up to 3 null, and it still going at it, the other team would just start tackling harder until the other team slows down the tempo. Maybe break a leg of the most technical player on the other side, we use to have special players just for that, they’ll get a red but the other team would get the message. Losing 3-0 just shows the other team was really good, losing 6-0 means you have to fire your coach.

  136. @bomag

    Yep – I wasn’t quite awake when I commented, sorry, but: Women’s soccer world cup in Canada had 750 Million viewers.

    The opening game in France this weekend had almost 10 million viewers in France alone – the opening game of the men’s soccer competition was watched by 2 Million more.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  137. Bill B. says:
    @jim jones

    Finally a thread on Unz that does not degenerate into a sea of baseball statistics.

    Yet.

  138. Olorin says:

    Meanwhile, Elie Mystal, who regularly gives T. Genius a run for the title of Densest Black Body In Our Solar System, holds forth at Above The Law blog about how Maya Harris, not KaMALa, should run for POTUS.

    https://abovethelaw.com/2019/06/kamala-harris-prosecutor-trump/

    As for President Trump and the rule of law and due process, chubbers thinks…well, let him speak for zingself.

    (Does “self” cause some offense I haven’t get heard about this week?)

    See… man… the Trump adversary in me says, “Hell yes, prosecute him straight to hell.” But the criminal justice reformer in me says, “Hell yes, wait, hold up, what do you mean by ‘rarely one with this much evidence’? Jesus Christ, how many people are directly in jail because of you? Has the Innocence Project looked into this?” The very LAST thing I want to hear a former prosecutor snark about is how much evidence she needs.

    The fact that the California Innocence Project is NOT out here stanning for Senator Harris is a huge gaping maw of a problem. Yes, we need someone able to hound Trump to the ends of the Earth after he leaves office. But we also need someone who is going to FREE innocent people. Harris seems like the opposite of that.

    I beg youse not to read his Twitstream. You’ll lose IQ points doing so.

  139. @Autochthon

    (It’s sort of like how New Yorkers and San Franciscans call their cities “The City” – which, by the way, should always be responded to with the sincere, deadpan question “Which one?” for maximum hilarity at their ensuing baffled, smug assertions of your obtuseness and their superiority.)

    You do realize that the above paragraph is most appropriately read out loud, in the voice of “the comic book guy” from “the simpsons,” right?

    If so, then do you realize how shitty your life is right now?

    When did you start allowing yourself to become, what you’ve become?

  140. Daniel H says:
    @curiousguy

    Of course women did’t invent this behaving badly on the ball field. It’s embarrassing to watch a major league baseball game today and witness the players go ga-ga over a home run, a quite pedestrian event today. And leave aside the hysterics of them swarming the mound and performing a homo-esque grope fest if they win an important game. Contrast. Here’s the Mick hitting his 500th home run in May 1967. A brisk jog around the bases, a pat on the back a few handshakes on the trot into the dugout and that’s it. That’s class.

  141. Bill B. says:
    @curiousguy

    Can someone who actually knows sports please tell me: Is it sort of bad sportsmanship to run up the score 13-0 in a match like this?

    And all the celebratory whooping and hollering afterward–a little ridiculous, no? It wasn’t like they’d defeated some major soccer power.

    No.

    Yes.

  142. @Autochthon

    Andrew Jackson didn’t like any haughty bastard Spaniard Dons. They were giving the USA and Jackson trouble out of Florida or something.

    That Spaniard lady first off is famous for providing an example of an elegant female backside in a dress alongside the monstrously wide Warren Sapp ass of Michelle Obama.

    The last guy was found out by his Chinese wife digging a hole to China to get another Chinese wife. He’s gonna convert from Atheism to Mormonism and have two Chinese wives. The first one looked good in her bathing suit spelunking which is not to be confused with Telefunken from the Van Morrison song In The Days Before Rock And Roll.

  143. Barnard says:
    @Olorin

    That is not a married name, Amy Chua’s husband is Jed Rubenfeld. Apparently, they decided to hyphenated the last name for their two girls. I have not read anything about either of the daughters being married and it does not appear they raised the girls as practicing Jews.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    , @Triumph104
  144. Old Prude says:
    @Anon_NPC

    Remembers me of when the US Mens Olympic basketball team kept getting trounced by more disciplined foreign teams. So we changed the rules and sent in our NBA stars. A completely classless maneuver that made us look like a-holes.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    , @Barnard
  145. Rosie says:
    @Calvin Hobbes

    And how many are lesbians?

    Who cares?

  146. @MikeatMikedotMike

    How about women’s beach volleyball?

  147. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ve always thought the fundamental problem with soccer is that you cant use your hands.

  148. Rosie says:
    @Coag

    Couple years ago the defending Women’s World Cup champions lost to a Dallas under-15 boys team.

    Who cares?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  149. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    The big women’s sports news story this past weekend was a brutal knockout in UFC:

  150. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Phil

    They’re limited to 3 subs per game.

    • Replies: @Phil
  151. Rosie says:
    @AnonAnon

    Based on my peer parent college admission results of the last few years, if I had a daughter I’d put her into volleyball instead.

    The trouble with volleyball is that it really doesn’t provide girls with the aerobic intensity they need. The court is too small, and it rewards reflexes and communication/teamwork more than overall physical fitness.

    • Replies: @Shermy
    , @prosa123
  152. @Polynikes

    “More hetero sports” in reference to women’s sports is like saying “tallest midget in the circus.” There are probably several reasons why lesbians are grossly over-represented in women’s athletics (or, more intriguingly, women in athletics wind up dating other women), but women’s sports are all fairly gay outside of the spectacle type events like figure skating (where the male counterparts are gay).

    Aggression and competition boosts testosterone, so that combined with low body fat through puberty and adolescence means that having young girls spend their days dedicated to competitive athletes is probably a recipe for inclining them to the Sapphic side of things. I’ve also heard stories of one or two lesbians on college teams serially seducing their ostensibly straight teammates (anecdotes, but still).

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Autochthon
    , @Autochthon
  153. @Rosie

    And how many are lesbians?

    Who cares?

    The (((people))) who need to tell us about these sort of things really seem to care.

    Don’t get upset with us for mentioning what we’re not allowed to ignore.

  154. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Bill B.

    A U15 boys team beat the US women’s team too.

    It would be ironic if the humiliated Thais fielded a trans team next time around and won the tournament.

    https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/

    • Replies: @Shermy
    , @Jonathan Mason
    , @NOTA
  155. @YetAnotherAnon

    Do you really want your nation to boast that it has the roughest, toughest, most manly women?

    Maybe not boast so much as recognize the fact as it is.

    I know rugby’s generally a sport for the bigger guy, but I don’t want my nation to have the biggest, most muscular women rugby players. That’s nothing to be proud of.

    Well, there are positions in the backs and the scrum half that don’t require one to be too large, but I think on the whole the scrum/ruck/tackle aspect of the game means that there is but one way to play it.

    Which is to say, if you don’t want it to be known that your nation has the biggest, most muscular women rugby players your best course of action is to not have a national women’s rugby side.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  156. @JMcG

    I have no idea what it costs to join a soccer club in the UK, because it would depend entirely on the type of club and the level of play.

    There is some information at this link:

    https://www.kitlocker.com/blog/the-true-costs-of-setting-up-a-grassroots-football-team/

    My nephew played semi-professional soccer in the UK and was paid something like 30 pounds for a win and 10 pounds for a draw. Nothing for a loss. Many clubs have their main source of revenue as the bar in the clubhouse, and will be a venue to discos, dances, wedding receptions, etc, which brings in a bit of money.

    In Germany, I read, it costs 3 1/2 Euros per month for youth to play at all levels, and 6 Euros per moth for adults.

    My daughters played recently in a league here in Florida and I think it was about $55 each for a season of 6 weeks, with 1 training session and 1 match each week, but they got a shirt and a pair of socks included for the money as well. Of course we had to pay for soccer boots, transportation to and from, drinks, supply our own chairs, etc. The fields used were 1) in a public park, 2) belonged to a church.

    My older daughter gashed her foot while warming up at home and went into a tackle barefoot against my younger daughter who was wearing sandals with a metal buckle, so she missed one week of training and game.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  157. Shermy says:
    @Rosie

    The trouble with volleyball is that it really doesn’t provide girls with the aerobic intensity they need.

    Wrong. Anaerobic activity spills into aerobic results. That’s been figured out quite a while ago, so update your records. Strict weight-lifters with resting pulse rates of 46, etc.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  158. @Autochthon

    Thank you. The first time I encountered the term “Hispanic” as a kind of racial identifier, I thought it was insane.

    There was an obvious descent into madness in the sequence, white, black, Asian (?), Hispanic (???). I was just laughing: “You mean people from Spain are not white? How about Italians?! Is there an Italic category? The Italic-American community?…”.

    Then I kinda got used to it. But we really should just refuse such a term. It’s nonsense, sloppy thinking that leads to all kinds of absurd identity politics.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  159. Old Prude says:
    @Anon7

    We had media celebrations a few years ago when the Lewiston (Maine) High School Boy’s soccer team won the state championship. Lewiston is the town where they dumped all the Somali “refugees”, so its basically Mogidishu with snow. I wrote the local paper and asked them if it would be churlish of me to wonder how the Lewiston High School Girl’s soccer team performed.

  160. Shermy says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    A U15 boys team beat the US women’s team too.

    It’s my standard answer when middle-aged fat women tweet out that women soccer teams should be paid the same as men.

    These women don’t realize what relatively shitty athletes women tend to be. The tards shouldn’t be paid the same as the elite simply because they can play the game adequately.

    Same goes for women’s tennis, basketball, and on and on..

    I wouldn’t mind seeing an all women’s NFL, although women have had enough sense to avoid that. It would be fun watching ‘roided up women and trannies trying to beat the shit out of each other.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @Pericles
  161. @Dieter Kief

    Dieter, Mein Freund, ya need to work On your reading comprehension. The TV ratings in Russia were for the MEN’S TOURNEY, WHICH is huge world-wide. This year’s Lesbo Games, not such a big deal.

  162. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    In other words what you’re saying is that the UK has no NCAA conference style system at the university level for club sports, say, Cambridge and Oxford would be in division 1 level, while University of London would be in division 2 level.

    Well there is something called BUCS, which organizes interuniversity and college sport competitions in more than 50 sports, and there is a kind of national college overall championship.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Universities_and_Colleges_Sport

    BUCS awards points in all its competitions towards the ‘BUCS Overall Championship’ – a ranking of member universities’ sporting achievements. The overall winner receives the Kerslake Trophy, first awarded in 1959 to Birmingham; Loughborough has won this every year since 1978–79.

    Not surprisingly Loughborough is a university that specializes in training phys ed. teachers and coaches.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loughborough_Sport

    University sports are, however, insignificant from the spectator point of view.

  163. Clyde says:
    @Hail

    Many thanks for taking the time. What men want to know is lesbian? good athlete? And I can tell just from the photo. Out of the 23 only 5 or so are hetero only. A few have out lesbian hairdos. While many others looks fierce but bisexual.

  164. @Dave Pinsen

    It would be ironic if the humiliated Thais fielded a trans team next time around and won the tournament.

    No shortage of ladyboys in Thailand.

  165. Clyde says:
    @Olorin

    Sophia Chua-Rubenfeld is not a lefty so fine with me. She will not sabotage Justice Kavanaugh. See what happens when your children don’t smoke weed etc.

  166. Rosie says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Aggression and competition boosts testosterone, so that combined with low body fat through puberty and adolescence means that having young girls spend their days dedicated to competitive athletes is probably a recipe for inclining them to the Sapphic side of things.

    No, they just get tired of dealing with Ken because of attitudes like this. I never was a competitive athlete, but I’ve had friends who were, and they get very tired of this.

  167. Rosie says:
    @Shermy

    Wrong. Anaerobic activity spills into aerobic results. That’s been figured out quite a while ago, so update your records. Strict weight-lifters with resting pulse rates of 46, etc.

    I don’t doubt it. Weight-lifting is great for women. Volleyball does not provide anything comparable in terms of physical exertion.

  168. @R.G. Camara

    RG, I watch and cheer because, wait for it, it’s America’s team in the World Cup. Don’t come around later and talk about stopping migrants if you aren’t on board for Americans in any endeavor.Oh, and every girl that turned you down had to be gay.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  169. @Charles Pewitt

    Alex Morgan has the perfect body type for an elite female soccer player. When she stands up straight in those SI pics, you can see has very narrow hips. Her tush size is somewhat exaggerated by the photo angles, but even then you can see it seems most entirely muscular. I wouldn’t be surprised if her bust size was 34 or 33, and her body fats was in the single digits.

    She’s very attractive, obviously, but most 30 year old female non-athletes do not look like her. I bet with her grueling training, menstrual periods are erratic.

    By the way, she’s married to a professional player of Hispanic heritage, so if they have kids, the genes are there for future players.

  170. @anonymous

    It’s soulless shit that just trains boys to be little sissycucks in the globohomo machine.

    Progressives Sneer As Soccer Becomes a ‘World Festival of Nationalism’

    Is this guy a “sissycuck”?


    Or these?

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  171. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    [W]omen’s sports are all fairly gay outside of the spectacle type events like figure skating (where the male counterparts are gay).

    I would be so gay for her….

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  172. @Barnard

    So what happens if she marries Sir Denis Eaton-Hogg?
    Would the kids be Chua-Rosenfeld-Eaton-Hogg?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  173. @Rosie

    No, they just get tired of dealing with Ken because of attitudes like this. I never was a competitive athlete, but I’ve had friends who were, and they get very tired of this.

    So, your point is that they get tired of Ken? After dealing with Ken long enough, ostensibly straight women go lez? By dating women, they prove that women acting aggressively and competitively aren’t disproportionately inclined to lesbianism?

    Makes a great deal of sense.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  174. So, in the midst of the USNWT’s disgraceful baby seal clubbing of Thailand, the voice of class and reason is…..Hope Solo????

    https://sports.yahoo.com/hope-solo-deems-uswnt-celebrations-overboard-credits-carli-lloyds-postgame-class-182026550.html

    I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  175. Would the kids be Chua-Rosenfeld-Eaton-Hogg?

    Would the kids enjoy bacon-lettuce-tomato sandwiches? With very cold mayonnaise?

  176. @anonymous

    It’s soulless shit

    Coming from someone afraid even to use a screen name…

  177. njguy73 says:
    @jim jones

    I won’t do that, Lord knows i wish it would. I’ll just say:

    I’d rather watch a Marlins-Orioles game than the Women’s World Cup final.

  178. @Dave Pinsen

    As usual, you’re right, Dave.

  179. @Paleo Liberal

    So what happens if she marries Sir Denis Eaton-Hogg?
    Would the kids be Chua-Rosenfeld-Eaton-Hogg?

    Chua-Hogg. Though that wouldn’t be kosher.

  180. @Anonymous

    1) Some women fighters are very attractive, even some of the bigger girls, like Felicia Spencer.

    2) Most (not all) seem to be heterosexual.
    3) Still very few black women in MMA.
    4) Women’s fights are often more exciting than the men’s fights, because the women get more emotional, and it’s more dramatic when a woman gets knocked out or bloodied up. Women’s MMA fights legitimately put butts in the seats.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  181. @European-American

    The first time I encountered the term “Hispanic” as a kind of racial identifier, I thought it was insane.

    It’s not a “racial identifier”, it’s an ethnic identifier. It’s not the only one used in the US Census, but it’s the only one that counts.

    • Replies: @European-American
  182. @Autochthon

    That’s a wanton and lascivious look that lady skater is presenting to the middle aged judge — I wonder if it affected her score?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  183. @Old Prude

    Not really. We had been sending college kids forever and the rest of the world had caught up. Our 19 year olds could no longer beat the 25 year old professional players from other countries.

    • Agree: Barnard
  184. @martin2

    The Australian National Women’s team were hosed 7:0 by a bunch of under 16 schoolboys a few years ago.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/6072/australias-national-womens-soccer-team-lose-7-0-amanda-prestigiacomo

    Samuel Johnson had a line concerning women preaching which fits rather well.

    “Sir, a woman’s preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.”

    One does wonder why they pretend to do soccer.

  185. @reiner Tor

    “that’d be valuable in the medal table. Exactly as valuable, as men’s soccer, or men’s basketball, or men’s tennis, etc.”

    And just what is the “value” of that?

    • Replies: @Realist
  186. JMcG says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Thank you for the reply. Here in the northeast, a season of travel volleyball is in the 2500.00 range. For a twelve year old! It’s past the point of being ludicrous.

  187. njguy73 says:
    @Daniel H

    And celebrating walkoff homers in April, with pies in faces. I’m like, one, act like you’ve been there before, and two, good teams don’t need to come from behind.

  188. @Redneck farmer

    It sounds like you’re been to an LSU football game or two.

    • Replies: @Federalist
  189. Eventually some 2nd tier men–willing to admit they are 2nd tier and are never going to make it–will declare that they “feel like a girl inside” (a lesbian girl) … and come in and rip this bitch up!

    The sooner the better.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  190. @Reg Cæsar

    Regarding the third picture, it seems like the costumes of those European civil servants are approximating more and more to that of Roman legionnaire, which I think provides valuable insight about both then and now. The Roman armies after the dawn of empire seldom went into the field against peer opponents, but spent much of their time providing social services and police work for provincial backwaters or restraining the passions of their own hoi polloi. The decline is quite evident inasmuch as the fine art of statesmanship degenerates into a long process of Imperial pacification. Now, regarding your question:

    Is this guy a “sissycuck”?

    Maybe not, but he’s a miserable example of humanity all the same. What does he believe in? Whom did he vote for? What has he accomplished? This is what really matters. Drunken brawling at a soccer game is no real indicator of manly virtue, and I’m sure many of these hooligans are just standard-issue NPCs who, if asked, would rattle off the social justice program chapter and verse.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  191. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Nearly all UK university sport is played for fun, but at quite a high standard (I watched my son’s soccer games and they were pretty high quality, not professional standard but low end of semi-pro – the team trained three times a week and took it pretty seriously. He said the rugby side did the same).

    A few university soccer teams like Loughborough and Cardiff Met actually play in semi-pro leagues rather than against other student sides.

    Rowing at Oxford and Cambridge is different, you get people recruiting multiple Olympic medallists. Almost time to make the squad undergrad-only.

  192. Speaking of white women, i came to the conclusion about a week ago that Elizabeth Warren will probably be the Democratic Party nominee.

    I’d like to put a bit of money on that before everyone else comes to the same conclusion. Any of you guys who’ve put down money before have recomendations on best sites/markets to use?

  193. Barnard says:
    @Old Prude

    That’s not even close to what happened. The U.S. Olympic men’s basketball team lost twice with amatuer players before NBA players were allowed to play in the Olympics starting in 1992. The first time was in 1972 when the game was blatantly stolen from the Americans by Olympic officials who gave the Soviets three attempts to score on the game’s final possession. This is widely considered the most corrupt event in the history of the modern Olympics. The Roy Jones Jr. gold medal fight in 1988 is one of the few events that even comes close.

    The second loss was in 1988 when a team of college stars lost to the Soviet Union by six points in the semifinals before beating Australia easily for the bronze medal. They were never “trounced by more disciplined foreign teams.”

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  194. NOTA says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    The ladies’ team might not do so well, but the ladyboys’ team will kick some ass….

  195. Lot says:
    @AnotherDad

    Predictit.org, run by a legit Australian University.

    Bet limit is $850 per contract. Warren is at around .18 now, so you max bet of $850 will be worth $850/.18 if she wins.

    The main fee is 10% of the profit of each closed bet. You can close your bet early at a loss or profit, depending on a market price.

    Online gambling sites in the past have been fixed or “failed” with users losing the money they had on deposit. I wouldn’t trust the others.

    I currently have bets for Biden and Warren, against ButtiG and Andrew Yang.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  196. USWNT up 9-0 and head dyke Rapinoe feels the need to do this:

    https://streamable.com/0t0e1

    And people wonder why the world hates us.

  197. @AnotherDad

    Why the better?

    Why do women’s sports enrage the nuttier parts of the alt life/right? Don’t watch them if you don’t like it. The only actively annoying players on the team are Hope Solo and the blond butch haircut lesbian.

    It’s all a bit forced with the equal pay whining, yes, but other aspects of 21st century America are way worse.

    If these national teams encourage young women to get some exercise, then great.

    Not many female athletes turn into screeching pink-haired tmblrinas. They may annoy you because they are “masculine” but these are not the enemies of civilization here. Just as with men, intensive physical activity tends to ground and normalize people.

    All the whining over women’s sports from certain conservatives amounts to jealousy. They are angry that these women are receiving a little bit of fleeting attention when they were second string on their high school team and nobody praised them.

    It reminds me of the women’s 800 being banned for decades after one of the Olympics in the 1920s, when the judges were horrified that the top 3 finishers were sweaty and panting!

  198. @anonymous

    no winners, no losers

    You will find this is not true of soccer. Many games are won and lost.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  199. @Charles Pewitt

    She’s skating with her (“gay”) husband, so if it was the plan, and it did affect the score, they both probably laughed in bed together later at the judge’s delusion he had a chance….

  200. @AnotherDad

    Speaking of white women, i came to the conclusion about a week ago that Elizabeth Warren will probably be the Democratic Party nominee.

    Of jeez, and they said the debates in the last election felt like stage productions of Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf. Imagine Trump and Warren slanging away at each other across space and time for months on end.

  201. Cortes says:
    @Hail

    The surnames of Horan, Lavelle and O’Hara are from NW Ireland, the first two quite common on the Mayo coast and the last in Sligo, the county neighbouring Mayo on the north.

    The big jaws are rather typical.

  202. anonymous[173] • Disclaimer says:
    @(((Owen)))

    I’m talking about suburban American rec league culture specifically

  203. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Shermy

    I wouldn’t include tennis in that rant. Top women’s tennis players make plenty of money, as well they should: they’re the best at a popular sport. Women’s soccer players make less because women’s soccer isn’t anywhere near as popular.

    • Replies: @Bill B.
  204. PaceLaw says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Interesting that women in individualistic, non-contact sports like tennis and golf are largely seen as feminine and sexually attractive, while women in team sports with high-body contact appear more masculine (for the most part) and they try to act as tough and aggressive as men. The act of watching a women’s soccer or basketball game seems far more to do with SJW posturing than wanting to watch a competitive, athletic competition.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  205. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    This is actually a thing now, women aren’t supposed to smile or be ‘nice’. It’s this idea that apparently ‘good girls don’t change the world’

    You see this in all the Nike and adidas ads. Women scowling and being ‘fierce’ is being promoted as an ideal. It’s a sad, ugly vision and it’s being pushed very aggressively. These USA team portraits take it to new level.

  206. Clyde says:
    @Lot

    I currently have bets for Biden and Warren, against ButtiG and Andrew Yang.

    I met up with a lib friend today. He really likes Warren but will vote Biden because only he can beat Trump.
    He mentioned none of the other Dem candidates. Only Warren and Biden.

  207. Hail says: • Website
    @Triumph104

    Thanks for the expanded info.

    Adrianna Franch is biracial with a white mother

    Genotype =/= Phenotype, of course, but I am surprised Franch is <50% Subsaharan; more likely a 40% Subsaharan cap, if her father is a typical Black American.

    Here is the woman mentioned as her mother, Raqual Franch. The name “Franch” is, surprisingly, Spanish in origin.

    A passing thought was “might Adrianna have been adopted? Adoption is not likely because Adrianna has two Black-looking siblings: A picture exists of the three of them at their Habitat for Humanity construction site, in or about year 2000. The White woman Raqual Franch (the mother) is unlikely to have adopted three Black children in a row; most likely is that there is a(t least one) very-Black mystery-man who fathered the three children, in the period 1990 to around 1997, and who was gone by 2000.

    And now this: The Black father is no mystery, or at least his name is not. He is named in a 2010 article in the Oklahoman (where Adrianna Franch was playing college soccer) as Lamar Gholston, a then-college-baseball player.

    No matter what sport she was playing as a kid, AD Franch always wanted to impress her dad.

    Maybe if she could score enough points in basketball, that would get the former athlete’s attention. Maybe if she could drive in enough runs in softball or save enough shots in soccer, that would connect with the man who rarely called or visited or cared.

    “I thought maybe if I was good enough,” she said, “he’d come back.”

    Her parents met when they were athletes at Cloud County Community College in Kansas. Raqual Franch was on the volleyball team while Lamar Gholston was on the baseball team.

    Their daughter was born five days before Raqual’s 20th birthday.

    Raqual wanted the best for her baby, but she worried she would struggle to raise a child at her young age with her meager means. Having been a foster child, she wanted something better for her daughter and looked into adoption.

    AD said her father refused to sign the papers.

    Because he’d already left Cloud County to play baseball at McNeese State, Raqual was left to raise the baby. She eventually moved back home to Salina, Kan. […]

    Raqual Franch, born Nov. 1970; sent into foster care presumably from infancy; got pregnant by some Black guy at community college in early 1990; Raqual’s daughter Adrianna (or “A.D.”) was born in Nov. 1990. The article implies that the Black father was gone by 1991; if so, did he come back just often enough to father the other two Franch siblings in the 1990s?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Autochthon
  208. @Reg Cæsar

    So why do we see so many statistics and graphs separating the US population into white, black, Hispanic (and maybe Asian, Native American, etc.)? It seems to encourage muddled thinking. So by white and black we would mean non-Hispanic white and non-Hispanic black, which is just utterly bizarre. People of Spanish descent would not appear in white statistics. People of Italian descent would. People of Portuguese descent… Who knows.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Autochthon
    , @Alden
  209. Hail says: • Website
    @Triumph104

    I couldn’t find any proof of Crystal Dunn being immigrant stock. Her father Vincent is an attorney, SUNY Buffalo law school. Both parents are natives of NYC

    She looks Caribbean and not of U.S. Southern Black stock.

    It is often remarked that one can tell immigrant-stock Blacks apart simply by the way they carry themselves. Their facial expressions, body language maybe. Voice. If you listen to her interviews on Youtube, she has not much of any trace of a “Black accent.” The somewhat different racial components yield a sometimes-‘exotic’ look, which Dunn also has.

    I would be surprised if Crystal Dunn doesn’t have substantial or full non-U.S. ancestry in the past two or three generations.

    • Replies: @Triumph104
  210. Hail says: • Website
    @Triumph104

    Jessica McDonald’s father was in and out of prison and mother was drug addict.

    I presume this means both parents were Black. McDonald’s USASoccer profile pic makes her look rather gentle, especially compared to some of the more intimidating pics of the other twenty-two. And it makes her look lighter than Franch (who has a White mother).

    Here is an alternate, in-the-wild pic of Jessica McDonald (born Feb. 1988):

    Hard to believe this is the same person as the figure depicted in the formal USASoccer photo, but the arm-tattoo (“Jeremiah,” her son’s name) confirms it is the same woman.

    The live-action pic is from a Philadelphia Inquirer article titled “Jessica McDonald has the USWNT’s best story at the Women’s World Cup”:

    No matter what Jessica McDonald does at the World Cup, she will keep the prize of having the U.S. team’s best story of making it there.

    The Phoenix native is debuting in the spotlight at age 31, as the squad’s only mother and one of its defining voices for black women. McDonald was raised by a single mother who battled drug addiction while her father was in and out of prison. She grew into the world’s game in high school, and when her brother Brandon became a pro in MLS, she followed his path to a better life.

    “Just to be playing on the world stage and repping all the parents out there, [and] all the African-American girls who feel as if they don’t have much to rely on, to obviously make their dreams come true whatever the circumstances may be…

  211. Hail says: • Website
    @PiltdownMan

    Her USASoccer profile pic is really softened-up substantially, looks more feminine, to the point of not looking like the same person as her apparent real self. Maybe the profile pic is several years old.

  212. Hail says: • Website
    @Federalist

    The one black chick in the picture is standing with her hand over her heart looking patriotic and the one kneeling is a white lesbian

    The one standing is Crystal Dunn.

    She doesn’t seem to be a standard-fare Black American.

  213. KunioKun says:

    I can’t think about women’s soccer without remembering this disgrace:

    Getting women to imitate men is stupid. Having women who imitate men as role models for little girls is even worse. When it comes to asshole behavior from parents no other kids sport in the U.S. comes close to soccer. I feel bad when people trash women’s sports activities by comparing them to men, but if it leads to this kind of garbage, perhaps it is a good thing to viciously trash them.

  214. astorian says:

    The US Women’s team won the World Cup in 1999 and most recently in 2015. But in between, despite having a HUGE advantage in talent, the US women lost three straight World Cups. They didn’t make the finals in 2003 or 2007.

    Here’s where we see the biggest difference between men’s and women’s sports. If the US men’s basketball team had lost three at three straight Olympiads, fans and the media would have been LIVID! They’d have called the US men “chokers” who “never come through in the clutch.”

    Did anyone ever call Abby Wambach a choker who never came through in big games? NO! The media are cheerleaders for women’s soccer, and would never dream of asking how Abby and friends managed to lose to Japan!!!

    The men are expected to win, and are slammed by one and all when they come up short. But the women are always treated as a feel-good story, no matter how badly they perform.

  215. @anonymous

    ” There’s no struggle, no fight, no pain, no honor, no glory, no winners, no losers.”

    Not only that you’re onanymously wrong , but you also somehow managed to quack like some Tiny Duck from alternative universe.

    bored identity strongly believes that the closest you ever got to soccer in your life was that time:

  216. SteveM says:
    @Phil

    Seems sort of shameful for your best player to be scoring their 5th goal in minute 87

    It’s not a “their” when it’s obviously a “her”.

  217. @Hail

    Those are some sour pusses.

    Did someone open their Christmas presents?

    • LOL: Old Prude
  218. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    It’s part of their faux tough guy act.

  219. @Rosie

    I don’t know if men’s ‘attitudes’ matter much. A former WNBA player discussed the culture of the league:

    https://nypost.com/2017/02/21/retired-wnba-star-i-was-tormented-for-not-being-gay/

    One of my best friends in college was on the basketball team ( Division 1). Her older sister also played d1 basketball. They are pretty blonde girls from Colorado, and of course Dad loved his athletic daughters and was a major reason they got scholarships. My friend was very pretty (we dated for a bit) but she was 6’1 so it wasn’t easy for her to find guys to date. Her sister was 6’4, and she stayed lesbian. My friend dabbled in lesbianism while she was in college, but she’s married (to a man) with children now.

    Women in groups can be very conformist, as you know. There’s a reason the notion of Gay Until Graduation (for women) is what some might call a ‘trope.’

    • Replies: @Rosie
  220. @Diversity Heretic

    It didn’t sit right with me at first either, but we have to remember that Goal differential is a tie-breaker if needed to determine who advances from the Group Round to the Knockout Round.

  221. prosa123 says:
    @Rosie

    I wouldn’t dismiss top-level volleyball as lacking aerobic intensity. A couple Olympics ago I watched a women’s table tennis match on TV, and both competitors were absolutely dripping with sweat.

  222. anon[116] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Black guys dominate men’s sports

    Yes – and white guys will continue to master everything else.

    white girls dominate female sports

    Yes, our lesbians are dominating

    No wonder they go so well together!

    Black guys are welcome to have our lesbians

    Just look at the France soccer teams.

    Yes, the French have also given their lesbians to black athletic laborers while the white men master everything else.

    Try again Tiny.

    • Replies: @Semperluctor
  223. @Dieter Kief

    You do realize that at its height, the Kardashians reality show outdrew/ outdraws women’s World Cup soccer. Come on. Admit defeat.

    Question: if women’s soccer is a profitable ratings boom, how come it’s US pro league doesn’t show up in the top 50 ratings for TV in US? Assuming women’s soccer still has a pro league. If it does, how come no one watches it’s matches in any credible numbers?

  224. @Hail

    Raqual Franch, born Nov. 1970; sent into foster care presumably from infancy; got pregnant by some Black guy at community college in early 1990; Raqual’s daughter Adrianna (or “A.D.”) was born in Nov. 1990. The article implies that the Black father was gone by 1991; if so, did he come back just often enough to father the other two Franch siblings in the 1990s?

    You can’t fix stupid.

    And in the current PC environment, you can’t even try.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    , @Triumph104
  225. It also doesn’t help matters that they scheduled the opening rounds vs the Stanley Cup and NBA Finals. Ideally July would be best time to host women’s World Cup as there isn’t any major competition. Also, how come Women’s World Cup isn’t played same year and at same venue as Men’s? That would help increase awareness for their sport.

    But they do tend to play like a bunch of girls though, don’t they?

  226. Rosie says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    My friend dabbled in lesbianism while she was in college, but she’s married (to a man) with children now.</blockquote

    Yes, this is very common, and usually harmless.

  227. @Hail

    Why do people write =/=?

    Mathematics ≠ Python != MATLAB ~= SQL C++

    But English is not the same as any of them, because writing for humans is not the same as code for computers.

    In any event, setting aside my points above, what in the Hell is =/= supposed to mean?! I can see it as a ham-fisted effort to represent , but why not at least type if you are just being lazy or trying to be hip by insinuating you understand mathematics or programming? Maybe =/= is some operator from a language I don’t know?

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Frank G
  228. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    They are female professional athletes; they get into each others’ boxes every day of the year.

    On a lighter note, they are, as has been remarked, mean-mugging to appear tough, but it just makes them (as you remark) look angry or petulant, because female faces don’t very well represent toughness. This is related to why men find smiling women more attractive than women who are not smiling, but women find men who are not smiling more attractive than men who are smiling in all the empirical research done using photographs and asking observers to judge the subject’s attractiveness: women are bioevolutionarily programmed to seek tough men, but men are bioevolutionarily programmed to seek accommodating women.

    GloboHomo, of course, feigns vexation and puzzlement that men “can’t handle” or “are intimidated by” supposedly “tough” women and reject them, but GloboHomo doesn’t question for a moment women’s prerogative to find mewling Poindexters unattractive and ignore or even deride them.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  229. @AnotherDad

    Maybe Adrianna’s father never came back at all to sire (I do not say father!) her two half-siblings…?

  230. @Barnard

    Thanks for clearing that up. I couldn’t make any sense of the mother-in-law comment. Neither daughter is married. Both of Amy Chua’s daughters were raised as Reform Jews and had bat mitzvahs. Amy served shellfish at one of the bat mitzvahs.

    In exchange for being raised in the faith of their father, Jed Rubenfeld, the girls learned Chinese. They are fluent in Mandarin. Since their mother, Amy Chua, speaks Fujianese, a Mandarin speaking nanny(s) was hired.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @Autochthon
    , @Olorin
  231. Duke84 says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Most black women look masculine because they have higher levels of testosterone.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  232. @Hail

    One of the German surnames was acquired by marriage. Four years ago, Julie Ertz was Julie Johnston.

  233. @curiousguy

    It’s bad form a) to holler and hoot when a team is that far ahead, it’s rubbing their noses in it, it’s not the same as if the scores were 3 all and then one team scores the decisive goal 2 mins before the end; and b) that far ahead, take the main players of, and put on the subs to get experience.

    And, for some perspective, likely most on this site know that a top 5 team, Australia, lost 7 to nil to a team of 14 year old high schoolers… not a National under 15 side, just a regular old high school team. I have nots seen that game, but I wager that boys did not holler and yell about it.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  234. @Hail

    Religion is the main reason for the difference in behavior. Immigrant stock usually belong to staid hierachal religions. You will find that native US blacks who belong to staid religions (Episcopalian/Anglican, Catholic, Seventh Day Adventist, Mormon, etc.) behave like immigrant stock. Only 1 percent of black Americans are Episcopalians, but a much higher percentage of civil rights leaders/politicians were Episcopalian. The list below is incomplete and doesn’t include people like Senator Edward Brooke but gives decent snapshot of black Episcopalians:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:African-American_Episcopalians

  235. @anon

    I once caught out Tiny D in bit of egregious plagiarism (something to do with a letter that a lady had had published in a newspaper) and which TD had simply lifted wholesale.
    After that, it was clear that he’s a pointless troll; I respect that you have the energy to slap him down.

  236. @AnotherDad

    It is not stupid. Women who grew up without a family are desperate to create one. They have no guidance or role modeling. I take it that you grew up with a family and model many of your behaviors after them.

  237. anon[866] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s why there have been lots of very good American goalkeepers, but not so many good field players.

    I’ve never understood why it’s COMMUNIST kickball though. No communist country has ever won the World Cup, and they generally haven’t been very good at soccer. That’s because the typical Soviet-type powering-through with massive training and steroids approach just doesn’t work in soccer. The best soccer countries have been (West) Germany, Brazil, Italy, France, all rather capitalist.

    The whole ‘communist’ label given to soccer must be gaslighting by the major US pro sports leagues, which are actually quite communist in their structure. Pro leagues elsewhere, soccer or not, are typically very cutthroat and capitalist. A team could drop down all the way from the top level to amateurs if it keeps losing year after year. Not so much in the US pro leagues where losing is rewarded with the highest draft picks and stadiums financed by the taxpayers are the norm.

    But many Americans, including some commenters here, are too stupid to know that.

    • Agree: Peter Akuleyev
  238. @European-American

    So why do we see so many statistics and graphs separating the US population into white, black, Hispanic (and maybe Asian, Native American, etc.)? It seems to encourage muddled thinking.

    It has nothing to do with thinking. It’s about grifting. For benefits.

  239. Bill B. says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Women’s tennis is good because the slower game is actually nice to watch compared to the men doing all those aces etc..

    But this is an extreme disadvantage in women’s soccer.

    • Replies: @Marty T
    , @R.G. Camara
  240. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Right, because the NBA and the NFL are oh-so-white.
    Top soccer players are mostly white. Not so much the case for basketball and Am. football. They’ve even mostly eliminated white males from halftime shows, especially in the NBA.
    But sure, soccer is pushing diversity.

  241. @ben tillman

    Redneck Farmer said “our lesbians can beat their lesbians” and you responded, “It sounds like you’ve been to an LSU football game or two.”
    What does that mean?

  242. @Intelligent Dasein

    Whom did he vote for?

    I’m guessing Putin.

  243. sb says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Thailand drew with Australia at the semi final stage of the last Asian Cup and Australia have beaten the US in recent times (so I read somewhere -in Thailand -in the last day or so )

  244. @Danindc

    Megan Rapinhoe may be the least likable female on the planet.

    She certainly has an unfortunate name.

    • Replies: @CrunchybutRealistCon
  245. anon[974] • Disclaimer says:
    @RH

    You’re a moron. Chad Ochocinco and Usain Bolt tried to play soccer in mediocre pro leagues. They failed.

  246. Anon[397] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    The US women are technically and tactically very good, but the speed and strength difference vs. 14 yo boys is astounding. Folks who haven’t played or watched soccer don’t understand how much speed, strength and size matter in soccer.

    I have never been a soccer fan, but living in Japan I was caught up in the excitement when the Japanese women’s team advanced into the finals for the world cup (eventually winning it) a few years ago. I studied up on the rules in Wikipedia, I stayed up late to watch matches in real time despite the time difference, and I roundly dissed the ugly, mannish U.S. team members. When the final game was over I was ecstatic.

    About three weeks later I was flipping through the TV channels late at night and I stumbled across a men’s soccer match. With my newly acquired soccer viewing expertise, I tarried to watch a bit of it.

    Yikes!

    This was a match between two city teams from two minor countries, Baltic, Middle East, and/or former Soviet Union, not famous teams and not, I don’t think, famous athletes. But it was a completely different game from the women’s World Cup soccer matches. The speed and aggressiveness and lack of mistakes and accuracy of kicking: all way off the charts.

    So, yeah, that kind of took a bit of the shine off the Japanese women’s victory for me.

  247. Mr. Anon says:
    @anonymous

    Mass American culture, especially sports, is becoming more militaristic and repulsive.

    I agree. It’s become harsher, uglier, more vulgar,……..more repulsive, as you say.

  248. @Polichinello

    But you’re missing the point. It’s not about winning; it’s about making dreams come true.

    In the Daily Mail article about the match, the US star striker Alex Morgan is quoted as follows:

    And for the celebrations, these are goals we have dreamt of our entire life. I mean, I’m going to celebrate Mal Pugh’s goal. I’m going to celebrate Sam Mewis and Rose Lavelle. This is their first World Cup and I’m so proud of them. And I couldn’t have dreamt of scoring five goals in a World Cup. So it’s incredible for us all and I’m happy just ignoring those comments.

    Former US women’s player Abby Wambach reinforces this theme:

    For all that have issue with many goals: for some players this is their first World Cup goal, and they should be excited. Imagine it being you out there. This is your dream of playing and then scoring in a World Cup. Celebrate. Would you tell a men’s team to not score or celebrate?

    And then Fox Sports presenter Aly Wagner joins in the chorus:

    It’s a World Cup. You score, you celebrate. This is a dream for these players.

    Every player who scores has to experience making her dreams come true. That’s what it’s all about.

    • Disagree: Dan Hayes
  249. @Buffalo Joe

    it’s America’s team in the World Cup. Don’t come around later and talk about stopping migrants if you aren’t on board for Americans in any endeavor.

    DO you watch and cheer for the USA team in international Trans drag queen championship? Or team USA in the international gay gangbang World Cup?

    Seriously, you sound like a cuck; stop jumping on board for a bunch of mannish broads just because they splashed the flag on their uniforms. Degeneracy is degeneracy, and women’s soccer is a joke.

    Oh, and those “Team USA” broads won’t even respect the national anthem that you claim, in your patriotism, to love so much you’ll watch crap sports.. But I guess that makes them “real Americans”, eh, chump? :

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/12/megan-rapinoe-soccer-national-anthem/

  250. @PaceLaw

    Women golfers are not instinctively seen as feminine/sexually attractive; it’s long been associated with lesbianism. The LPGA has, in the last 20 years, put on a full-court press to force the women to be more feminine in appearance, and the influx of Asian female golfers (mostly Korean), who are naturally more gamine, has helped soften that image. The Williams monsters dominating tennis, too, has helped, by sending the more feminine country-club chicks screaming away from tennis into golf.

    It’s long been noted that competitiveness in women makes them more mannish. E.g. The Great Gatsby, Jordan Baker, the female professional folfer, is described in much more sexually ambiguous terms than he coquettish Daisy.

    Competitiveness in physical sport in a masculine trait, because most sports have objective standards by ostensibly objective judges. Femininity is competition in subjective arenas, where the judges are assumed to be biased and manipulation of the psyche and alliances is key; its why a “queen mother” was so valued to rulers as a protector against the machinations of the backroom in politics.

    • Replies: @sanjoaquinsam
  251. @martin2

    You’d think the Thais,of all people,could put some trannies on their team and put in a respectable performance.

  252. Anon7 says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    This has been NOTICED if not actually pointed out, since we’re celebrating powerful women.

    I saw a magazine cover with four members of the women’s soccer team standing manfully in the background, and standing in front of them were four 14 year-old girls in soccer uniforms – the next generation! The future of American soccer.

    If you guessed that all four of the young girls were mixed race, you’d be right. Just like the future America.

    • Replies: @Alice in Wonderland
  253. @R.G. Camara

    Women golfers are not instinctively seen as feminine/sexually attractive; it’s long been associated with lesbianism. The LPGA has, in the last 20 years, put on a full-court press to force the women to be more feminine in appearance, and the influx of Asian female golfers (mostly Korean), who are naturally more gamine, has helped soften that image. The Williams monsters dominating tennis, too, has helped, by sending the more feminine country-club chicks screaming away from tennis into golf.

    There are a number of younger White/European LPGA and upcoming college ladies that are very attractive and feminine. Many seem to be the daughters of very rich men and their beautiful wives. I golf at public courses often and from my observations, the amount of teen and early twenty’s ladies taking up the sport is growing every year.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  254. Would you tell a men’s team to not score or celebrate?

    Well, yes. Yes, we would. We often tell men not to make fools of themselves. Unseemly gloating over your good fortune in the face of the other person’s misfortune, even in sport, is, well, unsporting.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  255. @Reg Cæsar

    Is the consensus now that >60% of Women in college & beyond soccer, basketball, rugby, Water polo, & baseball are lesbians, Bi- or sexually confused?
    Seems about right. Probably many are sexual market outliers or high T at any rate.
    Always found watching most women’s sports other than tennis or beach volleyball to feel like I’m watching it out of charity. It’s just not very intense. There was that Womens Rollerball sport being promoted in recent years. Kinda like the James Caan movie with some contact & hope for grisly crashes.

  256. @AnotherDad

    I picked Warren a while back as their strongest candidate. I even like some of her economics myself, which is a concern because it means she has appeal to folks who won’t think about her views on immigration, abortion, affirmative action, etc

  257. @Autochthon

    When my daughter gets that look I just give her a popsicle.

    • LOL: Corn
  258. Marty T says:
    @Danindc

    The team is very unlikable, a bunch of greedy, classless b-tches who sued for “equal pay” though they get crushed by teams of teenage boys. Lesbo Rapinoe kneels for the anthem. Morgan doesn’t want to go to the White House if they win. Carli Lloyd is so toxic her own family can’t stand her.

    On the plus side, the European teams seem to have gotten a bit more attractive in the past few years. Let’s hope one of those teams kicks the crap out of the USWNT.

  259. utu says:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7130947/US-team-slammed-disgusting-obnoxious-celebrations.html

    US women’s soccer team defends ‘disgusting’ celebrations during 13-0

    USA thrashed Thailand 13-0 in Women’s World Cup in France on Tuesday night and celebrated every goal

    With Thai players left in tears, fans and commentators have slammed the ‘disgusting’ celebrations

    Where did this obnoxious celebrations by Americans came from?

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2000/10/olym-o25.html
    At this summer’s Olympic Games in Sydney, Australia, the post-performance demonstration by the US men’s 4×100 meter relay team also left an indelible memory. This exhibition, however, was of a quite different character. The gold medal victors in the event—Maurice Greene, Jon Drummond, Brian Lewis and Bernard Williams—created a circus atmosphere after their win that was as crass as it was backward. They preened, flexed their muscles and generally played the fool for the crowd. While Greene was on the podium he continued the clownish act, repeatedly sticking out his tongue for the benefit of the cameras. The general behavior of the sprinters—lording it over their opponents in a taunting and self-congratulatory manner—was the opposite of what the Olympics are supposed to be about: international friendship and solidarity.

  260. Dan Hayes says:
    @Triumph104

    Triumph104:

    By serving shellfish, Amy unequivocally demonstrated who wore the pants in that particular family!

  261. Marty T says:
    @Bill B.

    Women’s soccer isn’t nearly as bad to watch as women’s basketball. Soccer might want to take a cue from tennis and make the female uniforms skimpier.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  262. Dtbb says:
    @R.G. Camara

    From what I have seen on YouTube highlights, the quality of play is pretty high. I think practicing against male teams has had an effect. The gap between the male and female game is closing by pussifying the male game while the quality of the female game is improving.

  263. @European-American

    What Reg Cæsar said. You answered your own question: This nonsense is done precisely because it encourages muddled thinking, not despite the fact.

    For GloboHomo, muddled thinking is a feature, not a bug.

    • Replies: @European-American
  264. @The Wild Geese Howard

    The Wild, “…disgraceful baby seal clubbing.” If that is your description it is gold box worthy.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  265. @Charles Pewitt

    Mette Frederiksen is a lady political leader who wants to protect the welfare state in Denmark

    The welfare state is the enemy of the people, in the long run. Mette’s party will eventually go back to inviting destitute immigrants, because that is the lifeblood of the beast.

    Welfare, like marriage and baptism, is the business of the church, not the state.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  266. Marty T says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Alex Morgan is basically the face of the team and has already said she won’t visit the Trump white house. Why would we root for her to have that opportunity? The most prominent players on the team are all insufferable and I think finally people have woken up to that.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  267. Frank G says:
    @Autochthon

    Because it’s easy to type without special characters, smartypants

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  268. @S. Anonyia

    S A , nice comment. Such rage when you can simply not watch.

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  269. @Triumph104

    If true, this one is a goofy and nonsensical bargain.

    Religion, if be anything more than posturing to for social reasons, is, for the believer and the unbeliever alike, a profound and imperative thing. No devout theist or principled atheist wants his child to be indoctrinated with what he believes to be an incorrect worldview – perhaps even with the consequences of eternal damnation (for some theists).

    Religious guidance of children, like religion, is not like deciding what to add to one’s plate at the salad bar, or even choosing a profession, a musical instrument to master, or – wait for it – a language to study, even with all the commitment, effort and opportunity-costs the latter three will require.

    Learning a language, on the other hand, is just that – a sacrifice of time and effort, but not principles.

    What’s more, languages are not mutually exclusive – I’m fluent in two, damned good with third, and get by with four more. (Then there are people like Professor Tolkien….)

    What’s more still: learning a language as a child – and teaching it as a parent – because of the spectacular ability of infants and very small children to master languages during the time their brains are astoundingly powerful at it – is fairly effortless. If Mr. Rubenfeld had spoken only Hebrew to the girls, and Mrs. Rubenfeld only Chinese, they’d have almost certainly mastered both, barring a learning disability, and English too, since they would be learning it from everyone else, and intensely so in kindergartens and further education.

    This marriage is bizarre.

  270. @Semperluctor

    I think they were laughing hysterically by the end of the match. As in, “THIS is the best that women’s sports can offer? THIS is the best you got?”

    14 yr olds can be cruel indeed.

  271. @S. Anonyia

    I like women’s sports fine. I expect most do. If I have a daughter, I’ll gladly coach and encourage her in skiing, tennis, soccer, softball, etc. (not boxing, wrestling, or football – these are not women’s sports, any more than joining the infantry is a woman’s profession).

    It’s the beastly, freakish women and their efforts to play the sport like men (and be recognised as though they were the physical equals of male athletes) that annoys most objectors.

    Mikaela Shiffrin, Paula Radcliffe, Marylou Retton, and Anna Kournikova are fine athletes, worthy of praise and esteem.

    The beasts in the WNBA and women’s professional soccer, not so much….

  272. @Marty T

    The women’s basketball is still too big and heavy for women to flick elegantly the way, say, NBA star Stephen Curry shoots the men’s basketball. Women should play basketball with a ball closer to a volleyball in diameter and weight.

    My impression is that the soccer ball has been lightened quite a bit for both sexes over the last 50 years, so it’s not that big of an impediment to women.

  273. @Marty T

    Alex Morgan hasn’t had an original thought in her head since she joined the National Team. She does exactly as she’s told and is fed the talking points accordingly. In the last twenty yrs., only Hope Solo had an original idea/thought, which is why she antagonized so many people. Granted, it was all about her, but at least it was original in style. Solo would’ve been the type to not go, then suddenly change her mind and show up at the White House just to piss off her teammates. Trump and Solo would get along splendidly. They are beyond basic definitions of narcissism.

    In one of her first TV guest appearances nationally, ca.2011, on David Letterman’s show, she pointed at Letterman after he made some comment and said “You’re Fired!”, mimicking Trump’s famous line. So there’s no question she would’ve gone solo to the White House, all by herself.

    • Replies: @Hail
  274. @sanjoaquinsam

    Golf was very fashionable for rich men’s daughters to play up through 1929:

    https://www.allposters.com/-sp/Vogue-Cover-July-1929-Tee-Time-Posters_i8613785_.htm?AID=96280778&gclid=Cj0KCQjwxYLoBRCxARIsAEf16-sZNJPDB7r89Z7qEmGtQW_XufqnBrJfTG1JQwSPRoaM2RvTychWg-EaApGEEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

    P.G. Wodehouse and F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote magazine short stories about golf girls.

  275. @Steve Sailer

    If that’s the case, then how come women soccer’s national teams (officially the best players that their gender’s sport has to offer in the country at any given time) still can’t beat 15 yr old boys teams, much less elite NCAA mens soccer teams?

  276. Dtbb says:
    @anon

    US Open tennis men and women have equal prize money. Men play best of 5 matches, women best of 3. If time on court is figured in I would imagine the women earn almost twice as much per hour. I am sure there has been plenty of grumbling by the men but I haven’t heard much. I wonder why?

    • Replies: @Marty T
    , @OFWHAP
  277. @RH

    I have never heard of a school where volleyball was a prestige sport. I thought that was for the tall kids who sucked at basketball. Soccer, at most American schools, attracts more alpha males these days than baseball or swimming. It is equal to lacrosse. In the US rugby is only played in elite private schools, for the most part. Or has it become more popular?

  278. @Steve Sailer

    Netball is more “elegant” all around. And the girls are nicer.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @anon
  279. @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    “no ass”

    Really? Are you watching the same sport? The Brazilian girls all have very meaty thighs. The Woman’s World Cup is an interesting contrast of body types. The Japanese are thin and boyish (the Thai team actually looks like a team of 13 year old boys), the Latin Americans seem kind of heavy, the Germans and Americans look more like what you would imagine an “elite female athlete” to look like.

  280. Cortes says:
    @Steve Sailer

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_(association_football)

    The section dealing with the reasons for improvement are accurate: if headed correctly, the heavy older balls left players with a headache; headed incompetently or if struck accidentally on the side of the head, you could be knocked out (personal experience).

    Modern, lighter balls allow the more skilful players to control the intended trajectory of a pass or strike on goal (shot) to much greater effect – a bit like a snooker player strikes the cue ball at different points to produce spin. Only in football the great players can achieve their kicking effects not just in “dead ball” situations but in “open play” with the ball in motion.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @ATBOTL
  281. @Jim Christian

    I now have a new favorite women’s sport.

    Thank you.

  282. @Duke84

    Most black women look masculine because they have higher levels of testosterone.

    You are a moron. This is the kind of face-down-in-the-dung-pile stupidity that results from exposing normie idiots to the already loopy esoterica that comprises HBD thinking.

    There is no difference in testosterone levels between black women and white women. They both have, on average, about 30ng/dl, which is less than 1/10th the level of an 8o-yr-old male and not nearly enough to make anyone “look masculine.”

    Please take your microencephalic crapola and cram down the nearest shit-pipe, and in the future consider sticking with reruns of The Price is Right rather than venturing into these poorly charted backwaters for which you have no aptitude.

    • Replies: @Frank G
    , @Alden
    , @Autochthon
  283. @DCThrowback

    Right – as I said, I was not quite awake yet yesterday…but still: 750 Million viewers for women soccer world cup – 10 Million alone in France for the opening match, is quite something (the men’s world cup opening game had 12 million viewers).

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  284. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    She looks quite fine to me.

    She’d break you like the little nancy-boy you are.

  285. Pericles says:
    @Thulean Friend

    What Americans play in the NFL is really handball. Most of the time you just run with the ball in your hands.

    I have been told the proper name is hand egg. Because it’s not a ball either.

    As for the whamen’s world cup. The media here has been trying to get people excited about it but literally nobody cares. I don’t think all women’s sports are boring. Tennis is for example a sport where the divide between men and females is quite marginal. A lot of people care about women’s tennis. But that sport is an outlier.

    Karsten Braasch (who? the world no. 203 at the time, that’s who) easily beat both Venus and Serena Williams after a warmup consisting of a round of golf and a couple of beers.

  286. Pericles says:
    @Futurethirdworlder

    Even better if they go back to identifying as men after the tournament.

  287. Pericles says:
    @anonymous

    There’s no struggle, no fight, no pain, no honor, no glory, no winners, no losers.

    That all takes place up in the stands.

  288. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    The Thai women’s soccer team need to get some ladyboys in the roster. Then they’ll kick USA ass, or do other things with your asses.

  289. Pericles says:
    @Patrick in SC

    Where’s the outrage over bullying after this obscene display?

    Bullying of women of color at that.

  290. Dtbb says:
    @Barnard

    When men are bad sportsmen they just change the rules.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disgrace_of_Gij%C3%B3n

    • Replies: @Olorin
  291. Pericles says:
    @Shermy

    These women don’t realize what relatively shitty athletes women tend to be. The tards shouldn’t be paid the same as the elite simply because they can play the game adequately.

    Let us compromise. The women’s team should be paid a bit less than the U15 team that beat them. Simple and fair.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing an all women’s NFL

    Have you ever heard of the Lingerie Football League?

    • Replies: @Noman
  292. Dtbb says:
    @Daniel H

    Interesting that the Orioles were using a radical infield shift against Mantle 52 years ago.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  293. @Frank G

    Meh. I must respectfully disagree. Typing “Option + =” requires no more effort than capitalising a letter (“Shift + x”).

    This laziness – of which this business is but one example – is pervasive and evil. The effects are not merely aesthetic and the objections not merely pedantic:

    [T]he decline of a language must ultimately have political and economic causes [– and socio-technological causes, like personal computers, the GloboHomo idea that to expect mastery of the local language is racist and xenophobic, smartphones, “Auto-Correct” [sic], ineducable invaders, educators’ and parents’ obsession with science to the exclusion of letters, Twitter, etc. –] it is not due simply to the bad influence of this or that individual writer. But an effect can become a cause, reinforcing the original cause and producing the same effect in an intensified form, and so on indefinitely. A man may take to drink because he feels himself to be a failure, and then fail all the more completely because he drinks. It is rather the same thing that is happening to the English language. It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts. The point is that the process is reversible. Modern English, especially written English, is full of bad habits which spread by imitation and which can be avoided if one is willing to take the necessary trouble. If one gets rid of these habits one can think more clearly….

    [I]f thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought. A bad usage can spread by tradition and imitation even among people who should and do know better.

    I have actually had to correct code by novices and fools who wrote “=/=” because they saw that string of characters used (instead of an actual operator) in venues like Quora and StackOverflow by some well-meaning, possibly brilliant, but lazy or irresponsible bastard – probably typing on a damned phone but too lazy to have used the “text-replacement” feature to easily type those characters mathematicians and programmers must type if they are going to participate in online fora using phones. (You’re a programmer! Use your phone’s basic features!) The novices are sometimes talented programmers who quite reasonably assume “that must be the operator for ‘not equal’ in this language” – after all, it’s similar enough to the actual relational operators in many languages, like those in my example … the end of which, by the way, I botched earlier:

    Mathematics ≠ Python != MATLAB ~= SQL C++

    (There. Now I feel like a smarty-pants with closure to my bad joke.)

  294. sb says:

    The American approach to sport -particularly the close association with education -seems to work well if measured by global success

    However just about every American I’ve spoken to over the years who has had some comprehension about how things are done outside the US admits that the American approach of being totally results driven is often very stressful for everyone concerned and that basic enjoyment of sport is usually not a consideration .
    This often means that many just don’t understand why people play would sport at a low level just for fun.

    • Replies: @Realist
  295. Hail says: • Website
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Alex Morgan hasn’t had an original thought in her head since she joined the National Team. She does exactly as she’s told and is fed the talking points accordingly

    “I’ve been given a platform and I want to use my voice on…gender inequality…something very evident in sports.” — Alex Morgan (uptalker) (no vocal fry) [b. July 1989]

    “Women’s sports is a different product [than men’s]. […] Doing the same exact thing…within the system that has kept women down for a long time is probably not the best way to go about it.” — Megan Rapinhoe (no uptalk) (uses vocal fry) [b. July 1985]

    “The big thing that I think about is more diversity. More representation of different races, different people, giving everyone an opportunity to succeed. In this country, we haven’t been able to achieve that culture.” — Christen Press (uptalker) (no vocal fry) [b. Dec. 1988]

    From a Youtube compilation of the USA Women’s Team political commentary.

    Dislike:Like ratio is 3:1. In the comments, maybe 10:1 negative:positive.

    Mindless virtue signaling. Low level thinker

  296. Realist says:
    @Bill Jones

    And just what is the “value” of that?

    Not at all. The obsession with any sport, both watching and participation has no value to proles….it is a type of Bread and Circuses used by the elites.

  297. Hail says: • Website
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Christen Press is biracial, and comes from a very well off family

    She probably has <20% Subsaharan ancestry (judging by her part-Black father's skin tone), and passes as (mildly exotic) White outright in some pics, though not most.

    Not sure about the rest of her ancestral stock (father's non-Black ancestry and mother's), but in many pics Christen Press gives off a 'Hispanic' ethnovibe, as in this vaguely-militaristic-slogan-bearing ("One Nation, One Team") promotional poster :

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  298. Realist says:
    @sb

    The American approach to sport -particularly the close association with education -seems to work well if measured by global success

    Works well for what? Certainly not the education system…the American education system sucks. Every year hundreds of thousands of useless degrees are conferred each year.

  299. Phil says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Thanks, I hadn’t realized that detail of the situation, that softens my opinion somewhat.

    In football/basketball my opinion is that when you get a big lead, the honorable thing is to get the backups in early, but once you have the backups in, they should get the chance to run your normal tactics that they’ve put in the time practicing (ie if you’re a passing team all the time, once the backups are in I’m ok with letting them pass)

    I guess a limit on substitutions makes that opinion not really applicable in this situation.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  300. @Buffalo Joe

    Buffalo Joe, as far as I can tell I’m the first one to use that description for this incident.

    Have an outstanding day!

  301. @Triumph104

    Crystal Dunn, the blackest girl on the team, is married to a white Frenchman who is the trainer for a men’s professional soccer team in Denver. She wasn’t born super pretty, but, judging from pictures, she appears to have an attractive personality.

    My vague impression is that African-American girls tend to find Frenchmen appealing.

    I also have the vague impression that athletic types tend to be good matches for each other. E.g., Mia Hamm, the star of the 1999 women’s soccer team, married shortstop Nomar Garciaparra. They have 3 kids now and appear to be happy last I heard. I presume that husband and wife jocks spend a lot of time talking with each other about their daily workouts, which I would be bored with, but good for them. A lot of the latest generation of star athletes (e.g., NFL star Christian McCaffrey) appear to be the offspring of male and female athletes.

    • Replies: @Marty T
    , @peterike
  302. @Hail

    If you apply the rudiments of sound writing explained by George Orwell, Richard Lanham, and Clive Lewis to anything GloboHomo says, thus revealing the actual meaning, in English, obscured by the babble, you get real corkers:

    “I’ve been given a platform and I want to use my voice on…gender inequality…something very evident in sports.”

    I employ my fame to emphasise that sports prove women and men are different.

    “Women’s sports is [sic] a different product [than men’s]. Doing the same exact [sic] thing…within the system that has kept women down for a long time is probably not the best way to go about it.”

    Women’s sports are different than men’s. We should probably change sports because for a long time they have oppressed women.

    “The big thing that I think about is more diversity. More representation of different races, different people, giving everyone an opportunity to succeed. In this country, we haven’t been able to achieve that culture.”

    I think most about greater diversity, different races, and opportunities for everyone to succeed. In America we don’t have these things.

    Revise any statement by GloboHomo – any at all – and it’s always the same phenomenon. Revising the babble into English makes it actually say something, like Orwell’s honest version of an English professor endorsing murder in Russia. It is sure to be something the writer did not want to actually say (which was why he instead babbled to begin with).

    Removing the passive voice, the Latinate words, the bloated prepositional phrases, etc. yields statements by turns unintentionally revealing (“Men and women are different.”), childishly simple (“We should change bad things.”), and complete nonsense (“America has neither different races nor opportunities for success.”)

    I confess the last statement is so baffling – sentence-fragments without coherent connections, pronouns with unclear antecedents, etc. – that it’s not entirely clear my revision is accurate…but neither would any other be; any attempt must be a guess, as there’s no idea there to clarify! It’s the kind of passage one encounters grading papers or editing copy when, rather than offer correction or improvement, all one can do is write “What does this mean? Please rewrite this.”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  303. @Hail

    Right, I spent a while looking at pictures of Christen Press’s family before deciding to group her in the mixed black-white group. If you told me her father was part Polynesian or part Blackfoot Indian, I would probably believe you. Dad played football at Dartmouth and then got another Ivy League degree. The family lives in the rich Palos Verdes Peninsula area of Southern California (which looks like where the photo was taken: you can see Catalina Island on the horizon).

    Christen went to upscale Chadwick School in Palos Verdes, where Joan Crawford sent her children.

    • Replies: @prosa123
  304. @Reg Cæsar

    So netball appears to be basketball except 6 on 6, no dribbling, and with a lighter ball.

    I believe that girl’s high school basketball in the U.S. up into the 1970s was often actually netball. I can recall indignant feminist articles from the 1970s about how girls were being discriminated against in high school basketball by being forced to play 6 on 6 with little dribbling. Now that I see this video, I suspect the game they were playing might actually have been net ball.

    The lightness of the ball and the lack of dribbling seems to select for rangy fashion model-types instead of the LeBron James/Zion Williamson types who lower their shoulder and bull their way to the basket like in the WNBA.

    But why no outside shooting in the 5 minutes I watched? Is the ball too light to fly true over 15 or 20 feet?

    • Replies: @sb
    , @ScarletNumber
  305. @Phil

    If you are up 10-0, you should just kick the ball around back and forth at midfield until the ref tells you to go home.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
    • Replies: @Phil
    , @Dtbb
    , @anon
  306. @Cortes

    It’s interesting how American sports are very persnickety about changes in the ball: e.g., the NFL surreptitiously encouraged teams to deflate footballs to make them easier to catch but then acted shocked, SHOCKED when the Patriots did that, or MLB has tried to cover up that it introduced a new baseball in mid-2015 to encourage homers.

    In contrast, FISA introduces a new soccer ball at most World Cups and tells the players, You guys are the best pros in the world, so get used to it.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    , @anon
  307. Phil says:
    @Steve Sailer

    In a situation where the rules prevent you from emptying out the bench, I agree, that would have been better.

    In sports where you can empty out the bench, those guys show up everyday for practice, and learn your tactics, game time is a finite resource that they don’t usually have access to.

    My opinion is its a nice reward to those guys to let them show what they can do.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  308. Dan Smith says:
    @curiousguy

    Apparently goal differential gets to play a part in subsequent tie-breakers, so the 13 goals is understandable. But the carrying-on like they had taken the gold medal is harder to justify. If it were a baseball game, the next time Rapinoe came to bat she would have gotten a pitch aimed between her nose and ear.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  309. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    Welfare, like marriage and baptism, is the business of the church, not the state.

    You’re talking about a western European country. These are totally post-Christian societies. Christians are a tiny insignificant minority. To suggest that welfare can be taken care of by the church in such countries is a bizarre delusional belief.

    In an ideal world I’d agree with you. But that ideal world is long gone and it isn’t coming back. The churches are simply irrelevant.

    In the real world welfare has to be taken care of by the state.

  310. sb says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Netball is a much bigger sport in Australia than basketball . Of course this is also true for many Commonwealth countries ( not Canada ) but Australia is often one of the leading countries in womens basketball .

    Basketball is really a fairly recent addition to the Australian sporting landscape ( before the 1960s/70s it was pretty much below the radar ) Netball was THE female team sport historically

    I have noticed that netballers tend to often have male partners . This is only sometimes the case with the lady basketballers

  311. theMann says:

    309 comments and counting. WOW.

    I want to ask:

    WHO CARES, IT IS WOMEN’S BLEEPING SOCCER.

    But apparently 309 of you care. On to women’s curling!

  312. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    Russian men are manly and Russian chicks are feminine. That’s why we must hate Russia.
    I love it how one chick lifts up her shirt so the other chick can deliver a better bum slap. Now that’s female teamwork, not to mention elements of sado-maso.

  313. @S. Anonyia

    A healthy society does not encourage activities that are bad for society members. Women’s sports make women far less feminine in behavior. Increases in testosterone from training makes them less feminine in appearance and less attractive. Less feminine, less attractive women are less likely to get married, have large families, be good wives, and be happy.

    And as we can easily see from these soccer lesbians and feminazis’ behavior, female sports stars push hard-left wing politics with it, which is always evil.

    This is simply observable. Stop trying to gaslight, commie.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @S. Anonyia
  314. @Buffalo Joe

    ROFL. It’s amusing when those with secret tranny fetishes out themselves like you do.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  315. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The prohibition on dribbling is So White. Even the rims are white.

    It looks like a slo-mo Princeton offense with attractive girls and no backboard. Look at that bounce pass!!!

    The beauty of netball is that you can’t be a ball hog. If we combine it with the Russian sport of bum-slapping as a legal defensive move and Lingerie Football uniforms (minus the pads/helmet), we finally might have a female sport that outdraws the major male sports.

    • Replies: @prosa123
  316. @Phil

    You and Steve are both correct.

    USNWT should have used up their subs and played keep away with a few weak attempts on goal once they were up 5-0 or 6-0.

    I mean, we constantly hear how the LGBTWTFBBQ crowd are our moral superiors. This was a perfect opportunity for them to demonstrate that.

    Avoiding injury and fatigue are the other major reasons not to play at full throttle in a clear blowout.

    Why waste effort turning the baby seal skull into an even finer paste when you should be husbanding your energy for stiffer future competition?

    • Replies: @prosa123
  317. @Steve Sailer

    American sports get a lot of mileage out of their history. It’s how a lot of 8-13 year old boys get into the sports—-they fall in love with stat comparison and reading about great players from bygone eras. E.g. one of the many relatable things about the classic The Sandlot was how all these boys in the 1960s know all about Babe Ruth, a guy who played his last game in 1935 more than a decade before the kids depicted would have been born.

    Anyway, one of the history kicks is putting together all-time great teams and wondering how they would compete had they all been the same age. Ty Cobb versus Willie Mays? Walter Johnson versus Randy Johnson? Johnny Bench versus Pudge Rodriguez? etc.

    Changes in the rules and the ball frustrate this. After all, if a guy in 1920 had a different ball or different rules, it makes it a different game than today, which makes the comparison less fun, which drives down interest. Ergo why baseball downplays changes like the introduction of the 1920s rabbit ball, or the lowering of the mound in the 1960s, or the sneaky difference where, during the 1920s, a ball bouncing over the fence was —gasp–a homerun, whereas today its a ground-rule double.

  318. @Bill B.

    Women’s tennis was traditionally good to watch because most of the women were very feminine and dressed cutely. E.g. Chris Evert, Anna Kournikova.

    Yes, you had your obvious ugly dykes like Martina Navratilova, but they still were observably female and few and far between.

    Then the Williams monsters came in and ‘roided up and dominated it while looking like Bruce Jenner’s overly-tanned sons.

  319. @Dtbb

    They were famously using it on Ted Williams before that.

    Related: So many hitting guides and coaches preach “hitting to all fields” and avoiding pulling the ball, yet so many great hitters pulled the ball to extreme degrees. I’m wondering if a lot of little boys were gaslit. Pulling the ball seems to be far more successful.

  320. @Daniel H

    That was a white way of playing sports. And for blacks who grew up with fathers and who were locked into a white-dominated moral system.

    Once blacks were freed and encouraged to act “black” (i.e. uncivilized) we got the celebration-crazy unsportsmanlike behavior we see today.

  321. Dtbb says:
    @Steve Sailer

    When I refereed little kids games back in my early teens I would blow the whistle early if one team was way ahead and the other had no hope. Parents would often thank me.

  322. EdwardM says:
    @candid_observer

    I heard some commentator, or maybe someone associated with the team, remind us that goal differential is a tiebreaker so, hey, you never know. If the U.S. is tied for second or in third in the four-team group, then they have a better chance of advancing through this +13 performance than if they had won only 5-0. Right.

    By the way, the format of these tournaments is one of the dumbest things about soccer. The group stage narrows the field from 24 to 16 I think, then it goes to single-elimination. So it takes three games to eliminate the chaff like Thailand, then the presumably better (more equal) teams have their futures based on one game, which of course can be more random. Moreover, the final game in the first stage is sometimes pointless (the outcome of the group stage has been decided) — why not move those slots to later rounds to where it matters? Better to have play-in games like in college basketball, let the fringe teams get eliminated, and use the time for better matchups.

    It’s like if the baseball playoffs were best-of-seven in the wild card round then single-elimination in the World Series. Or a golf tournament was 18 holes for the first two rounds, then one hole after the cut. (Granted, there are sudden-death playoffs most of the time, though I prefer the 18-hole, or at least four-hole, playoff format. I might have a one-in-a-million chance of beating Phil Mickelson in a one-hole match, versus a zero chance of beating him an an 18-hole match.)

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  323. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    “your best course of action is to not have a national women’s rugby side”

    The UK is as pozzed as the US is by Title IX(?), maybe more so. If you want any of the government cash (local authority grants etc) or the quasi-government National Lottery cash, you have to demonstrate your commitment to “equality” and at minimum run a girls side or give them coaching.

    So your local cricket club will have a few girls being coached on a Friday night (my club did produce one reasonable female player, quite a good batswoman who played for our second team before university. But opposition bowlers are a pretty chivalrous bunch, and won’t try and intimidate a girl as they would a man).

    • Replies: @Bender B Rodriguez
  324. @Hail

    You’re just making my point. Alex Morgan goes whichever way the wind blows on any issue, echoing the established consensus.

    Compare those statements with anything uttered by Hope Solo on a given issue when she was a player. Yes, Solo sometimes could go political, but it was more of an afterthought as in “Oh yeah, people see me and think that I should be using my status as a woman to speak on this issue, etc etc so I should then.” But it was always about HER first, not about helping women.

    Very hard to see Alex Morgan picking random fights with fans, or getting nasty with coaches, etc. She’s too soft and dainty for that sort of thing. Show us where Alex Morgan was publicly accused of domestic violence, for example. You can’t, cause its not gonna happen.

    You want to know what the consensus is in women’s sports, listen to those ditzes like Alex Morgan. Twenty years ago on the ’99 team, she would’ve trended a more conservative God Bless America we girls can do it, hooray for us as a team, etc. stuff.

  325. @Dieter Kief

    Now, why don’t you demonstrate intellectual honesty and compare those viewers with viewers of the NBA finals? Or even the NHL finals?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  326. Marty T says:
    @Rosie

    Everyone cares. In womens sports the most important questions are how many are hot and how many are lesbians.

  327. Marty T says:
    @Dtbb

    Novak Djokovic tried to get the word out but the powers that be, including Billie Jean King, shut him up.

    The worst aspect of high level women’s sports is the power it gives lesbians in society.

  328. Marty T says:
    @Steve Sailer

    At college, the male and female athletes are often hanging out together in the same places. So of course hooking up and dating happens. There seems to be a lot of fraternizing on the tennis tour as well.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  329. anon[795] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    But isn’t it even more insulting when the winning team decides that they will not try to score on you?
    It reminds when the coach of the U-15 team my son was on instructed them in the second half to play at least two touches on the ball (to give the pro women more time to challenge) and to not touch the women at all (in soccer, shouldering your opponent aside with your body is legal and a big part of the game, particularly on defense).

  330. anon[321] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Right, and in some of the recent World Cups the players just hated the new ball.
    Of course, the FIFA being a thoroughly corrupt body of sleazeballs, they probably just picked the manufacturer who gave them the biggest bribes.

    The NBA tried a new ball some years back and the players just basically said no. The NBA changed back to the old ball soon after.

  331. Old Prude says:
    @Barnard

    OK. Fair enough. Let me revise my comment. It reminds me of when our undisciplined amateur show-offs kept getting beaten by more disciplined teams, so we sent in our professional show=offs. It showed no class and made us look like a=holes.

  332. Bill B. says:
    @R.G. Camara

    She is so unselfaware it is almost thrilling.

    To have not even a glimmer of understanding that people watch your underpowered fumbling because you represent a nation and not because you are you is staggering.

  333. Rosie says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Increases in testosterone from training makes them less feminine in appearance and less attractive. Less feminine, less attractive women are less likely to get married, have large families, be good wives, and be happy.

    Proof?

    • Replies: @Alden
  334. Rosie says:
    @Marty T

    At college, the male and female athletes are often hanging out together in the same places. So of course hooking up and dating happens. There seems to be a lot of fraternizing on the tennis tour as well

    Well that’s nice to hear!

  335. Olorin says:
    @Triumph104

    As per my self-correction addendum, I was on hold, with execrable on-hold music, got my pronouns scrambled, then my brain followed the pronouns. By the time I realized I’d emitted confusion the edit clock had run out. Oh bother.

    Sidebar: it sounded like centrally licensed computer generated quasi-jazz music written by one of those AI programs that can’t quite faces right. It was played just loud enough that I had to keep the headset on, but too loud and dissonant to think by. Every so often there was this refrain that sounded like things crashing into other things. Not even material things. Random vibrations.

    In the future I will not comment under the influence of on-hold music, 18th century German composers excepted.

    Apologies to all.

  336. @R.G. Camara

    Commie isn’t really a huge insult considering the former Iron curtain countries are a lot culturally/psychologically healthier than the USA and will likely fare better in the long term. In Moscow you can do squats to reduce your subway fare! That would be considered ableist in the USA.

    You know what doesn’t increase testosterone? Gaining weight and sitting around the house like a lardass.

  337. ATBOTL says:
    @Cortes

    The balls today are ludicrously easy to control compared to the ones in the 80’s. Much lighter and softer.

  338. @R.G. Camara

    RG, hmmm you are new at iSteve, so let me introduce myself, retired father of five very successful children and at 74 I think I could still kick your ass anyplace, anytime. Hell, I’ll even wear a dress so I embarass you even more. Maybe that is your fetish, to be beaten by a woman.

    • Disagree: Dan Hayes
    • LOL: Rosie
  339. Olorin says:
    @Dtbb

    I know nothing about any team sports but hockey and baseball, so I don’t understand.

    Why is it a “disgrace” for players to play a game (including game pacing) with larger strategic standings and outcomes, and future match-ups, in mind? How is this “bad sportsmanship”?

  340. Rosie says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    So, your point is that they get tired of Ken? After dealing with Ken long enough, ostensibly straight women go lez? By dating women, they prove that women acting aggressively and competitively aren’t disproportionately inclined to lesbianism?

    You radically underestimate the power of suggestion. Theses girls, already gender-nonconforming are constantly told how evil and close-minded Ken is, then Ken acts the part. What do you expect to happen?

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  341. OFWHAP says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    They’re not gay; they’re ANGRY!

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  342. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    I see 6-7 lesbians or bisexuals with high T and rock jaws

    • Replies: @Hail
  343. OFWHAP says:
    @Dtbb

    I remember seeing something on TV years ago (so I can’t cite an actual source) indicating that in the grand slam tennis tournaments (Aussie, French, Wimbledon, US Open) women and men actually draw similar revenues, so equal pay is appropriate in that case. While the level of play is not close between women and men, people still enjoy watching women’s tennis. Of course it could be that women benefit from playing at the same tournaments as the men.

  344. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Nobody here in Europe that I know of at least views the NBA finals. My point was simply to state, that women’s soccer is no quantité négligeable, viewers-wise. I mean – 750 million just is no quantité négligeable.
    I follow a simple rule: If something brings down the number of cars on the road while being broadcasted, it’s quite something. And that sure happened while the opening game of the women’s soccer World-championship was on TV. – 10Million viewers in France, 12 million in Germany – not bad! – Not huge either, I have no problem at all to concede that.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  345. @dfordoom

    In the real world welfare has to be taken care of by the state

    In the real world, that state will be democratic, this giving the welfarists ample reason to import poorer aliens. Why give them the incentive? That’s slow suicide.

    The churches are simply irrelevant.

    Countries where the church is irrelevant will in due time be irrelevant themselves. TFR serves as an excellent mine canary.

    Four out of five Scandinavians are registered members of their state churches. (Another few percent are members of other churches.) About half of all Germans still pay the optional Church Tax. If the safety net depended upon it, you can bet that it would be more.

    Membership is what matters, not the level of personal faith.

    https://liveworkgermany.com/2017/11/what-is-german-church-tax-and-how-do-i-avoid-paying-it/

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @dfordoom
  346. @dfordoom

    In the real world welfare has to be taken care of by the state

    In the real world, that state will be democratic, this giving the welfarists ample reason to import poorer aliens. Why give them the incentive? That’s slow suicide.

    The churches are simply irrelevant.

    Countries where the church is irrelevant will in due time be irrelevant themselves. TFR serves as an excellent mine canary.

    Four out of five Scandinavians are registered members of their state churches. (Another few percent are members of other churches.) About half of all Germans still pay the optional Church Tax. If the safety net depended upon it, you can bet that it would be more.

    Membership is what matters, not the level of personal faith.

    https://liveworkgermany.com/2017/11/what-is-german-church-tax-and-how-do-i-avoid-paying-it/

  347. @PiltdownMan

    I guess you’re not a Bill Belichick fan

  348. @dfordoom

    In the real world welfare has to be taken care of by the state

    In the real world, that state will be democratic, this giving the welfarists ample reason to import poorer aliens. Why give them the incentive? That’s slow suicide.

    The churches are simply irrelevant.

    Countries where the church is irrelevant will in due time be irrelevant themselves. TFR serves as an excellent mine canary.

    Four out of five Scandinavians are registered members of their state churches. (Another few percent are members of other churches.) About half of all Germans still pay the optional Church Tax. If the safety net depended upon it, you can bet that it would be more.

    Membership is what matters, not the level of personal faith.

    https://liveworkgermany.com/2017/11/what-is-german-church-tax-and-how-do-i-avoid-paying-it/

  349. @dfordoom

    In the real world welfare has to be taken care of by the state

    In the real world, that state will be democratic, this giving the welfarists ample reason to import poorer aliens. Why give them the incentive? That’s slow suicide.

    The churches are simply irrelevant.

    Countries where the church is irrelevant will in due time be irrelevant themselves. TFR serves as an excellent mine canary.

    Four out of five Scandinavians are registered members of their state churches. (Another few percent are members of other churches.) About half of all Germans still pay the optional Church Tax. If the safety net depended upon it, you can bet that it would be more.

    Membership is what matters, not the level of personal faith.

    https://liveworkgermany.com/2017/11/what-is-german-church-tax-and-how-do-i-avoid-paying-it/

  350. @Autochthon

    Ok. A few more comments, though. I dunno about Globo Homo, because this is a very Loco Americano kind of muddled thinking. I don’t know any other countries that have this “Hispanic” category. Canada, I suppose.

    Also, your suggestion of mestizo is not ideal because it means mixed. Some are mixed, some are pure race. Some tribes presumably don’t even have anything Hispanic about them. In North America we call such people Native Americans, or Indians. (Imagine calling Sioux or Navajos “Anglos” because they speak English). Another general term, also used in Latin America, is Amerindians.

    Finally, wouldn’t it be simpler to call Hispanics “Latin Americans”? That would rule out native Spaniards, and could avoid excluding Brazilians for no reason. It’s less confusing to refer to people by their geographical origin than by a linguistic term interpreted as an ethnicity.

    By the way, ethnicity is a scientific-sounding term, but is so generally ill-defined as to be meaningless. It’s an academic term of fairly recent coinage meaning something between race and culture. For general use it seems clearer to talk about either racial or cultural groups, or nations or peoples, rather than “ethnic” groups.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Autochthon
  351. dr kill says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Settle down, settle TF down. If you like your women to look like Meredith Raimondo, then please continue with NCAA Softball. But if, like me, you consider NCAA Women’s Volleyball a bit too 2010 -ish, check out women’s pole vault Italian -style. . You can thank me later.

    Ancona 2019. I imagine the crowd was Huuuge. High jump not bad, either.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @Noman
  352. prosa123 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I spent a while looking at pictures of Christen Press’s family before deciding to group her in the mixed black-white group. If you told me her father was part Polynesian or part Blackfoot Indian, I would probably believe you. Dad played football at Dartmouth and then got another Ivy League degree.

    The fact that he went to Dartmouth may be a sign that he actually is part Blackfoot, or from another tribe. Dartmouth’s original mission was educating American Indians and even today it enrolls a number of tribal members.

  353. prosa123 says:
    @anon

    The prohibition on dribbling is So White. Even the rims are white.
    It looks like a slo-mo Princeton offense with attractive girls and no backboard. Look at that bounce pass!!!

    Lest anyone stereotype netball as a genteel white girls’ sport, be aware that it is extremely popular in the Caribbean.

  354. Johnlat says:
    @Phil

    Only 3 substitutes are allowed in soccer, so you can’t clear the bench

  355. prosa123 says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    USNWT should have used up their subs and played keep away with a few weak attempts on goal once they were up 5-0 or 6-0.

    A few years ago a high school football coach in Connecticut nearly got fired for allegedly running up the score against a hopelessly outclassed opponent. His team won by something like 70-0. With the game already turning into a rout, the coach pulled all of his starting players well before halftime and used nothing but running plays. He stopped short of deliberately letting the other team score, figuring that would be more humiliating to them than a lopsided loss, but the league officials weren’t satisfied. Only because of a public outcry did he manage to keep his coaching job.

  356. prosa123 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The women’s basketball is still too big and heavy for women to flick elegantly the way, say, NBA star Stephen Curry shoots the men’s basketball. Women should play basketball with a ball closer to a volleyball in diameter and weight.

    A lower rim would help a great deal too.

    • Replies: @68W58
  357. Dan Hayes says:
    @dr kill

    dr kill:

    This “athletic” event was broadcasted and/or rebroadcasted on Brazilian TV. Somehow or other its Brazilian transmission does not surprise me!

  358. Anonymous[554] • Disclaimer says:
    @the one they call Desanex

    I find women’s volleyball players the sexist and most athletic.

    Especially the Chinese women’s volleyball team.

    Look at these 6’1” yellow goddesses with 22” vertical jumps. Heaven.

  359. 68W58 says:
    @prosa123

    That won’t work because at lower levels they use he same gym as the boys and it isn’t feasible to change to a lower goal between games. Varsity girls go on right before varsity boys here at the local high school, which helps them get more attention (and a split of the gate), but no way to go back and forth between a higher and lower goal between games. It’s not that I think going to a lower goal is a bad idea, it just isn’t practical.

  360. @Danindc

    Even in Canada we have hockey. All the boys get together and play.

    USA is either Negro Basketball Association, or the Negro Felon’s League. Sad.

    At least you guys have … golf … and frisbee golf (thanks A.E.M.) for whites…

  361. @Dieter Kief

    I was referring of course to US only tv viewers. The idea that women’s soccer IN THE US is beating the NBA finals in the ratings is ridiculous.

    Also, to be consistent, all these viewers in the US should help promote a women’s pro league IN THE US. And guess what? Women’s professional soccer in America doesn’t do well, either in attendance or TV viewers.

  362. @R.G. Camara

    DO you watch and cheer for the USA team in international Trans drag queen championship? Or team USA in the international gay gangbang World Cup?

    In the international Trans drag queen championship, it’s always Brazil, Argentina, or Germany. Or is that soccer?

    In the international gay gangbang World Cup I always root for whoever’s playing against France, because they invented it.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  363. Noman says:
    @dr kill

    Soccer 13-0.
    American thug football that would probably be 91-0.
    High school football teams don’t run up scores like that.

    The USA women’s soccer team is what, dykes and trannies?
    The Thai team members are ladyboys?

    Have the Americans played Iran’s women’s team?

  364. Noman says:
    @Pericles

    Women’s beach volleyball.That’s it.

    The almost naked, fit female body in motion and at rest.

    I have neither a TV nor cable, so I don’t know if they still allow the sport to be televised.

    • Replies: @Corn
  365. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Way wait. Where’s this gay global gangbang? And, does Larry Flynt know about it?

  366. Noman says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Handball sounds like basketball without dribbling.

  367. @EdwardM

    I might have a one-in-a-million chance of beating Phil Mickelson in a one-hole match, versus a zero chance of beating him an an 18-hole match.

    If you let Phil know a bookie was offering million-to-one odds against your winning, your chances would improve considerably.

  368. @Anon7

    I saw a magazine cover with four members of the women’s soccer team standing manfully in the background, and standing in front of them were four 14 year-old girls in soccer uniforms – the next generation! The future of American soccer.

    If you guessed that all four of the young girls were mixed race, you’d be right. Just like the future America.

    LOL

    If people won’t even pay to see hot white women play, they sure won’t pay to watch ugly mixed race butch lesbos who aren’t even good.

  369. @Steve Sailer

    But why no outside shooting in the 5 minutes I watched? Is the ball too light to fly true over 15 or 20 feet?

    It is literally illegal to shoot from outside the 16-foot semi-circle. This is probably due to the lack of backboards. Furthermore, only two designated players from each team are allowed inside the semi-circles.

    Also, it is 7-on-7, not 6-on-6.

  370. @AnonAnon

    if you luck out and your girl reaches 6’ you can get a lot of money

    A 6’0″ woman is equivalent to a 6’5¾” man, so don’t hold your breath for this.

  371. Frank G says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The scientist has spoken! Thank you for invalidating our lying eyes.

  372. Alden says:
    @Autochthon

    Is the lady in red Queen Letiza of Spain?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  373. Alden says:
    @European-American

    The original executive decree issued by that race traitor President Nixon on orders of the Ford Foundation defines Hispanic as anyone from Spain or any country that was ever a colony of Spain. Portugal and Brazil and other Brazilian colonies are not Hispanic nations.

    That’s the legal definition. It means a Spanish name, nothing about speaking Spanish. Race and ethnicity don’t matter. All those black and mulattoes are Hispanic if their surnames are hispanic. Pure S American Indians are Hispanic Arab Moroccans are Arabs if they have Arab surnames. Arab Moroccans with Spanish surnames are Hispanic. Incidentally, the royal family of Spain aren’t considered Hispanic by the American definition because their surname is French. So they are officially White, not Hispanic
    The American definition of Hispanic has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with President Nixon’s creating yet another affirmative action race to prevent White Americans from college admission and employment.

  374. Alden says:
    @Rosie

    Another creepy Woody Allen type 60 year old virgin. If I were a 60 year old male virgin who looked and behaved like Woody Allen, I’d be embarrassed to display my creepiness and virginity on the internet.

  375. Alden says:
    @European-American

    According to President Nixon’s executive order inventing the Hispanic race, Portugal Brazil and other Portuguese colonies and former colonies are not Hispanic.

  376. Alden says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    So what explains black women swaggering around like Mike Tyson? They are far more aggressive, rude and bullying than black men.

    Maybe all that macho man behavior is just an act?

  377. @Dieter Kief

    “What’s wrong with boys playing soccer?”

    Fine for cardio and coordination, but it is a faggy sport. If you are going to be in a faggy, effeminate sport, mind as well do ballet and develop some serious muscles (plus have your pick of the skinny girls).

    Let the boys play some soccer, but for #$#$’s sakes teach them how to box, wrestle, play lacrosse, rugby, etc.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  378. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    The two red-shirted women on line 2, Ashlyn Harris and “Ali” Krieger are engaged, to each other.

    The total number of Team USA open lesbians, per celebratory media reports, are:

    (line 1) Tierna Davidson (b. Sept. 1998), self-declared lesbian
    (line 2) Adrianna “A.D.” Franch (b. Nov. 1990), open lesbian
    (line 2) Ashlyn Harris (b. Oct. 1985), open lesbian
    (line 2) Alison “Ali” Krieger (b. July 1984), open lesbian
    (line 5) Megan Rapinoe (b. July 1985), extreme lesbian

    So 5 / 23 players are open lesbians. Coach Jillian Ellis (b. 1966) is also an open lesbian, which would make it 6 / 24, or 25%.

    A number of players are married or in long-term relationships with men. Partial list:

    Alex Morgan (line 4) (b. July 1989) is married to a soccer player named Servando Carrasco, of Mexican origin; they were got engaged in late 2013 and married a year later:

    Julie Ertz (line 1) (nee Johnston) (b. April 1992) married Zack Ertz (b. Nov. 1990), her college boyfriend and a(n American-)football player; engaged as of Feb. 2016.

    Carli Lloyd (line 3) (b. July 1982) married a Brian Hollins in Nov. 4, 2016, the weekend before the Trump-Clinton election.

    – Black player Jessica McDonald (line 3) (b. Feb. 1988) is the only player with a child, son Jeremiah (born March 2012); the father has since disappeared.

    The average age of Women’s Team USA 2019 is reported to be 29.

    The most famous name in U.S. women’s soccer, Hope Solo (b. July 1981), got married in late 2012 to black (American-)football player Jerramy Stevens (met in 2011); she is reported to have had a serious miscarriage (twins) in early 2018, the complication of which was bad enough that a century ago she would have very likely died during the ordeal.

  379. @European-American

    Many of your proposals still conflate race with citizenship, language, etc. A Negro is a Negro is a Negro. Likewise an Oriental or a European – be the Negro born in Bangui and speaking Sango or Detroit and speaking English; the Oriental born in Shenzhen and speaking Chinese or born in Cupertino and speaking…Chinese; and be the European born in Dalkeith and speaking Scots or born in Pretoria and speaking Afrikaans. It’s the melanin, the lips, the epicanthic folds (or lack thereof), the round or flat follicles, etc. – and the genes underlying them! – that are race.

    The overwhelming majority of what most people ignorantly, stupidly, malignantly, or lazily call “Hispanic” (using that term as if it indicated race) are racially mestizo – (racially) the descendants of an Amerindian and a European who engaged in sexual congress together. The remainder are other such miscegenations:

    mulattos from Negroes and (racial) Europeans
    zambos from Negroes and Amerindians
    pardos from Negroes, (racial) Europeans, and Amerindians

    Spaniards – like Argentines, Colombians, Chileans, Mexicans, Ecuadorian, etc. of European stock (but not Brasilians, Guianese, Guayanese, nor Surinamese!) are Hispanic as the term is properly used: i.e., they speak Spanish and their cultural paradigms are primarily derived from Spain (Latin HISPANIA), much as Americans speak English and our culture is primarily derived from Britain. So, also, are others – of whatever race – from those places. But the realpolitik of things is people constantly say – as Steve, a bright guy interested in the relevant topics! – “That guy looks Hispanic.” Or forms and taxonomies for demography classify “Hispanic” as a race (not the U. S. Census’ – but many, I just filled one out this week myself for the government of Mexinchifornia, boldly proffering me the option for my “race” to be “Hispanic!”) What’s more, and what’s worse, when GloboHomo says “Hispanic” – they don’t mean Queen Letizia or even Julieta Venegas – they mean the mobs of squat, brown creatures defined by the terms I defined above, along with pure indios (Amerindians). GloboHomo mean this because it reinforces the gimmick of put-upon brown “minorities” oppressed by Whitey – unless GloboHomo is epwking in the person of a Xochitl Hinojosa or Jorge Ramos, in which case he (or she) duplicitously elides the otherwise obsessive racial connotations so you, he (or she) can claim Cash & Prizes and Diverse Pokémon Points because – damn it, White Man! – being Hispanic is about language and culture! GloboHomo wants to have it both ways, you see; hence the business of the muddled thinking.

    [MORE]

    (Xochitl Hinojosa, whose parents magnanimously named her in honour of the savages their ancestors slaughtered.)

    [MORE]

    As an aside, judging from their phenotypes, Ramos and Hinojosa are both almost certainly, racially castizos – overwhelmingly European but with a smidgeon of Amerindian blood (think of Johnny Depp). Ramos may be criollo: truly (racially) European. The difference between these two terms is pretty negligible in modern contexts, anyway.

    In racial terms, indio just means “Amerindian,” and criollo just means “European.” There is all kinds of nuance about where people were born which mattered in colonial times but doesn’t much now, and variation of terms’ exact uses among nations, but we needn’t go into that stuff.

    You will have noticed the Spanish castas do a really great job of taxonomy and lexicography – giving us precise, accurate, concise terms for race. These are ignored by GloboHomo because it favours muddled thinking over the clarity of thought facilitated by clarity of language (cf. “Politics & The English Language”).

    Sadly, people are stupid and lazy, and, what’s more, centuries of wanton rutting have made many of the nuanced terms for race now less useful, as many people will not neatly fit one term or another, being 6.25% negro, 12.5% criollo, 22.25% indio, 20% castizo, 30% zambo, and 10% mulatto – what the Hell would we call that?! We’d soon have endless terms for endless combinations in differing proportions. (Geneticists, please don’t chastise me about the percentages’ viability in my example; I actually began by using only percentages derived by halvings, but my brain flagged at hassling with the decimals I foolishly introduced; my point stands even if my maths don’t.)

    So, we, instead of going down this hopeless and maddening path, revert back to generalities because insisting on too much detail can be as detrimental to clear communication and thought as too much vagueness is, since we lose any ability to be concise. And since the vast majority of “Hispanic” persons are racially mestizo – primarily consisting of admixtures of Amerindian and European stock – let’s use the term mestizo. Amerindians make up the next largest group, racially, so we could say “mestizo and Amerindian” without too much verbiage and be a bit more accurate and inclusive of so-called “Latin America” but still avoid conflating race with language, citizenship, and culture. This approach, and abandonment of the dopey and intentionally muddled concept of “Hispanicity” makes clearer that Ramos and Hinojosa are, effectively, the same race as Queen Letizia, nevermind that they speak the same language as mestizos and Amerindians* and would benefit if they could claim to share in those racial groups’ ostensible oppression and consequent need for Cash and Prizes as recompense – just as I am, effectively, the same race as Queen Elizabeth, never mind that I speak the same language as Negroes and would benefit if I could claim to share in their ostensible oppression and consequent need for Cash and Prizes as recompense…. Do I get to be “Anglanic” and favoured for jobs and work because “Hey! The Anglanics (the dark ones) suffered as slaves once upon a time, and I’m just like them; nay, I am one of them. Pay no attention to my race, because being Anglanic is about language and culture….”

    Well, I’ve lost myself – gone and written a miniature essay; forgive me. I strove, though, to address your questions and thoroughly address the topic, including efforts to explain the reasoning and provide the evidence supporting my views, and to refute common objections.

    I don’t want you to think I’m making an appeal to my authority, but I will add I speak Spanish fluently, I’m married to a criolla from South America, and raising a child for whom all this nonsense is already annoying, because everyone from the government to medical staff to well-meaning but foolish leftists in social situations want to attach weird and meaningless labels to him just because his mom was born someplace that sets off the Pokémon Points Alarm (quaere: does Megan McCain have to deal with this shit?) so I know more about the topic and the hassles the muddled thinking about it causes than I wish I did. In full disclosure, I confess my position also leaves me especially vulnerable to annoyance by the rampant craziness about the whole thing caused by it’s complicated nature and exacerbated by GloboHomo’s propaganda – imagine yourself having to explain to people every time the topic arose that the Beatles were not Australian, but most of them carried on insisting the Beatles were Australian, because the lady on the evening news keeps saying so, and all the books and experts and movies they know about insist so, too, and you are some sort of loon…

    *Many indios don’t even speak Spanish, which is a whole other nuance of the poop-show, but I’ve already types too much….

    • Replies: @European-American
  380. Corn says:
    @Noman

    They still have women’s beach volleyball on TV during the Olympics. During the last summer Olympics one half of the Swiss women’s volleyball team was this rather busty brunette.

    Hail Helvetica

  381. peterike says:
    @Steve Sailer

    My vague impression is that African-American girls tend to find Frenchmen appealing.

    And vice-versa.

  382. @Rosie

    I expect them to behave like most women, even like Kim Kardashian, and brush it off with with a “Damn, I still got it”, while always looking for the alpha that they can get, or least the man that’s right for them. The idea that paying attention to women (who, let’s get real, enjoy it) only serves to turn them gay, is silly. Come on.

    Like women don’t do the same thing toward a man that they’re into, but the guy isn’t particularly interested in them? And having that attention paid to them doesn’t turn men toward being gay.

    Attention isn’t a bad thing. It’s a good thing. Granted, its better when it comes from those you’re into, but hey, can’t always have everything whenever you want it.

  383. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    In the real world welfare has to be taken care of by the state

    In the real world, that state will be democratic, this giving the welfarists ample reason to import poorer aliens. Why give them the incentive? That’s slow suicide.

    So is it that you don’t think there should be any welfare (the poor should just do their social duty and starve quietly), or do you only object to welfare going to immigrants?

    Democratic states used to not only maintain borders, they maintained them pretty vigorously. There’s no reason why democracy should lead to open borders, unless those democracies are hopelessly corrupted. The modern western nations that are pursuing the open borders ideology are hopelessly corrupted. They are democracies in name only.

    You have to remember that immigrants don’t arrive in your country because they’re attracted by the welfare system. They arrive in your country because your government not only allows but encourages them to come. That of course includes immigration enthusiast Donald Trump.

    Saying that the welfare state is the problem is like saying that it’s someone fault they got burgled because they were irresponsible enough to have nice things that could be stolen, when in fact the reason they got burgled is that they they went out and left the front door open.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  384. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    The churches are simply irrelevant.

    Countries where the church is irrelevant will in due time be irrelevant themselves. TFR serves as an excellent mine canary.

    That’s true. And unfortunately in our present reality the category of countries where the church is irrelevant includes the whole of western Europe plus Australia and New Zealand and Canada. Within another decade or so that category will include the United States. Christianity has lost the fight and is nothing more than a walking corpse.

    It’s necessary to face reality. We live in a post-Christian word. Christianity is not coming back.

    Are these post-Christian countries doomed? Quite possibly. If they’re going to be saved it’s not going to be by a dead religion like Christianity.

    • Agree: jim jones
  385. Are these post-Christian countries doomed? Quite possibly. If they’re going to be saved it’s not going to be by a dead religion like Christianity.

    Then a live one like Islam?

    What other than religious faith gets women to breed? You’re basically writing the obituary for your entire race.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  386. @dfordoom

    So is it that you don’t think there should be any welfare (the poor should just do their social duty and starve quietly), or do you only object to welfare going to immigrants?

    I said neither. It was traditionally the province of the Church. And should remain so. That puts natural limits on it.

    To borrow a metaphor from PJ O’Rourke, putting welfare and immigration policies in the same hands is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. Or, as someone else put it, giving a loaded handgun to a baby.

    The open-borders people will always outbid restrictionists on benefits. Reality isn’t their concern; power is.

    You have to remember that immigrants don’t arrive in your country because they’re attracted by the welfare system.

    No, they’re attracted by the money. They don’t care whence it comes. The “safety net” makes a hard landing much less likely. Hard landings a century ago inspired many immigrants to return home. Today, nobody returns.

    Except for occasional visits. Which they mysteriously seem to be able to afford.

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  387. Anonymous[261] • Disclaimer says:
    @JMcG

    From what I’ve gathered as a non-European:

    -For the average-to-bad player, the cost would be nothing or next to nothing: every area will have numerous youth clubs that anyone can join for a nominal fee, if anything. These clubs would just play other clubs in the same general area.

    -For good-to-great players, the cost would be anywhere from nothing to the club paying you: promising players are scouted by academies attached to professional teams, and may be offered contracts as teenagers (I believe Messi signed with Barcelona when he was 13-14 years old)

    There are no college scholarships to be won and the professional clubs have no limits on their scouting abilities, so from what I can tell there really isn’t the incentive for parents to spend a lot of money to get their kids “noticed.” If your kid is good, a professional team will find them; otherwise, it’s purely a hobby.

    NYT article:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/magazine/06Soccer-t.html

  388. @Autochthon

    Women’s sports are different than men’s

    From men’s.

    Jeez, where did these people go to school? Or, I should ask, when?

    Where is Edwin Newman when you need him?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  389. @Dan Smith

    “. If it were a baseball game, the next time Rapinoe came to bat she would have gotten a pitch aimed between her nose and ear.”
    Yes! Sweep the leg, Johnny.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  390. @Autochthon

    Thanks for all the information, I did not know some of these terms, like criollo and castizo. And I sympathize with your annoyance at your family having to deal with such a strange and ill-defined label as Hispanic.

  391. @OFWHAP

    This one Rapinoe is angry. Just ask her:

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/megan-rapinoe-national-anthem-sing-us-soccer-world-cup-211549494.html

    It’s hard to tell if she’s gay or not, apart from the pink hair, manjaw, po-faced spinster demeanor, and witch politics.

  392. Neoconned says:

    Somebody here recently pointed out a junior high level boys team BEAT the Aussie women’s national tean…..

    Says something about female sports

  393. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    What other than religious faith gets women to breed? You’re basically writing the obituary for your entire race.

    Firstly, wishful thinking isn’t going to help. Not only is Christianity in terminal decline, the surviving remnants of Christianity are as anti-white and as anti-western civilisation as the worst SJWs. In fact given the character of modern Christianity it will be a good thing when Christianity finally disappears. It’s a feminised emotional feelgood religion for women, homosexual men and eunuchs.

    Secondly, we don’t really know if a secular political ideology can be pro-natal. So far secular political ideologies haven’t really been focused on encouraging higher birth rates. They’ve had other priorities.

    I think it’s pretty clear that feminism, liberalism and capitalism have, and always will have, a catastrophic effect on fertility. They’re death cults.

    So we need either a healthier religion or a healthier secular political ideology.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  394. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    The open-borders people will always outbid restrictionists on benefits. Reality isn’t their concern; power is.

    Maybe what we need to do is to get rid of democracy, rather than welfare.

    There are certainly good arguments against democracy. It’s essential political prostitution. Like prostitution it corrupts both participants in the deal. In a democracy you’re always going to get sold out. The problem with democratic leaders is that they don’t care about reality, they just care about power.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  395. @Ron Mexico

    Why can’t the opposing team simply kick the ball as hard as they can, with the intention of having it land straight at Rapinoe’s face? That would accomplish the same result. Of course, so many of these players have had concussions one more wouldn’t probably make a difference.

  396. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    This is just silly. Plenty of athletic women are normal, with families. Athletics does not make females beast; rather, beastly females enjoy athletics disproportionately more than normal females do, hence the beast’s over-representation, especially in sports less popular with normal females.

    …and so on….

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  397. Regarding US Women’s Soccer at the World Cup, I have to say, it’s just not the same without Hope Solo. She was the face of US Women’s Soccer for nearly a generation. Think of the antics and hijinks she’d cause (and would thus generate some additional interest in an otherwise very, very boring game as played by women in general).

    For instance, right now Hope could tweet out something along the lines of “These @*#*#’s are stupid, idiotic MF!*#*#**$!! Why the hell should anyone take them serious?” Or, she’d shove an opposing player to the ground and curse them out, causing a melee between the benches. Who knows what she’d do, but guarantee that it would garner attention, both for herself primarily but also for Women’s Soccer in general. The ratings would be even higher INCLUDING IN THE US. Unlike 99.9% of the Women’s Team, Solo had the one intangible thing that they lack: an original personality. May not be for everyone, but at least it was original.

    Truly there hasn’t been a US Women’s Soccer player like Hope Solo. Her presence is truly missed.

    And that’s a shame. Seeing how boring this game is, the more it makes one wish that Solo was back on the pitch, running her mouth to make it more interesting.

  398. @Intelligent Dasein

    Say, let reruns of The Price is Right alone; Bob Barker was far and away more entertaining than Drew Carey (whose sitcom was hilarious, but who is not a very talented host of game shows).

    Many people presume ostensibly more masculine behaviour (aggression, violence, etc.) indicate more testosterone.

    It’s true Negress’ typically exhibit more such behaviours than other races, but so do male Negroes. I don’t think either is accounted for by testosterone.

    I would further add aggression and violence and such are actually very common in females, perhaps as common or more so than in males. Women more commonly abuse their children and spouses than men do, women’s violence (especially against men) is astronomically under-reported, and when it is it is equally astronomically unlikely to lead to arrests and prosecutions.

    Women are also much more catty and uncooperative in working situations, focusing on political machinations and perceived grievances and jealousies instead of the task at hand; women are almost wholly disloyal, with no sense of honour or fair play

    Truly interesting conversation and empirical research would investigate these phenomenon and their relation to the unquestioned view pushed by GloboHomo and held by nearly everyone that men are violent, uncaring, uncooperative, and such while women are gentle, loving, cooperative, and such.

    Universities and media won’t touch it because GloboHomo; right-wing sorts like us denizens of this platform don’t touch it because “Muh Cuckservatism” and “Men is Moar Stronger Dan Wimmins” – they don’t appreciate the huances of the thing and how it’s not at all the same as the nonsense the Feminazis schill denying sexual dimorphism.

    Strength is not the same as evil; capability to harm not the same as propensity thereto….

    The antiente knew this; they reminded themselves (and the ten intelligent people still walking the Earth today) of it with Hercules and Medea; Zeus and Hera….

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @TWS
  399. @Autochthon

    Drew Carey signed a hugely lucrative deal early in his sitcom career. Later it turned out that the public wasn’t that much in love with Carey as ABC had assumed. To his credit, Carey took on a lot of responsibilities promoting ABC TV shows in order to compensate ABC for what they were paying him. Carey is a libertarian, so I was impressed by his good naturedness about the contract he’d signed. He’d gotten lucky, but he still felt an obligation to help out the corporation that had trusted him.

    • Replies: @TWS
  400. I cannot get into how I know it, but I can tell you firsthand Drew Carey really is a nice guy; the you’d-entrust-him-to-raise-your-children-if-you-died level of fundamentally good person nice guy.

    (And to be fair, no one on Earth will ever replace Bob Barker; the show should have been gracefully ended when he retired.)

    His show, like, incidentally, Craig Ferguson’s (which was essentially only possible because under the aegis of David Letterman, who literally, contractually, held complete say-so over the time slot after his own show, putting Ferguson there and then keeping him there…).

    Both shows were victims of their brilliance, the way good films like Chasing Amy; Run, Lola, Run; or Office Space are; or any number of good musicians. People are stupid; they don’t want these things. They want The Kardashians; Joel Shumacher’s Shit Blows Up with Superheroes!; The Fast & The Furious Part 57; Miley Cyrus – in short, to allude to the good they reject, they want Ouch! My Balls!.

    Part of noblesse oblige was to at least make efforts to try to get the unwashed masses to appreciate decent art, and to discourage them from wallowing in stuff that rotted their minds and morals. Now it’s the opposite: the rich steer the common man to porn and trash to fleece him of more money, keep him from thinking, and indoctrinate him to GloboHomo; after all, the last thing the ruling class needs nowadays is a lot of Americans reading Spartacus or The Moon is a Harsh Mistress before their power and numbers have been completely destroyed.

    It used to be this trouble sorted itself out: intelligent people could go to the opera or read novels and the stupid masses went to the bear-baiting or the burlesque show and read the penny-dreadfuls and pulp trash.

    Mass media homogenised everything by the late twentieth century, and only just now is the Internet and niche programming (over the top), and self-distributed music pioneered by the likes of Marillion bringing back some possibility for intelligent art to thrive and remain available to intelligent audiences. Even still, GloboHomo fights it tooth and nail (Apple, Inc.’s demand for crazy commissions to distribute via its online platforms, cable companies’ insistence one pay for bundles full of shit one doesn’t want in order to get a single channel one does wants; YouTube’s and similar platforms’ degradation to a barrage of advertisements and refusal to host any content not 110% GloboHomo-Approved…).

    The first wave of homogenous stupidity was a natural result of broadcast media and similar phenomena (advances in telecommunication and transport, etc.); but the second wave now upon us is a concerted, Herculean effort by GloboHomo against the natural result of still more advanced technology enabling, once again, production and distribution of art that need not sell a hojillion units. The difference is telling.

    Sadly, the chance for Steve Sailer and Jordan Peterson to find an audience online despite GloboHomo is still not much present in the physical world. The local cinema, theatre, museum, amphitheatre will still almost always only only be ever showing Jennifer Aniston & Some Guy Try to F–k or Rehashed Cartoon Made into Broadway Spectacle, exhibiting A Retrospective on the Works of Transexual Basket-Weavers, or hosting (one night only!) Ariana Grande & Niki Minaj’s No, I’m a Bigger Whore! tour, etc.

    Even the revivals of timeless works such as those of Congreve or Aeschylus are set in weird venues, the dialogue and plot butchered, and the rôles changed to be homosexuals, women, and brown people, so that Romeo & Juliet becomes the tale of two star-crossed homosexual boys who struggle to be together because one is “Latino” but the other is Chinese….

  401. TWS says:

    Just as long as the ladies can avoid playing against eleven year old boys they look good. Put them in with a few trans dudes and it’ll be a farce.

  402. TWS says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I did not know this about him. He seems natural sitcom material but he has really been good for the brand with a few decent shows and good behavior on his part.

  403. TWS says:
    @Autochthon

    We treat abuse from men and women as if it is the same phenomenon. It’s not. Of course, women abuse their children more simple observation could give you a half dozen reasons, knowing anything about primate evolution would explain more. Women can be just as dangerous to their kids moreso if you include the various step fathers and boyfriends they bring into their lives now.

  404. @Daniel H

    For those wondering, that’s Jerry Coleman on the call.

  405. @PiltdownMan

    So that’s one of our women’s soccer players, huh?

    That reminds me. Did you ever see Jamaica’s goalie? She is a proud alumna of South Brunswick (NJ) HS and plays for UNC Wilmington. As Dave Barry would say, I swear I’m not making this up.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  406. @Autochthon

    Paula Radcliffe is famous?

    Also, did you know that Nancy Kerrigan’s husband is her former agent? He is also 15 years her senior.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  407. @ScarletNumber

    What?

    Jamaica (like most other Caribbean nations) does have an indigenous white population (a tiny European minority that have, roughly, about 85-95% white admixture, perhaps even a few that are 100% white).

    Why’s that a surprise? Until it received independence in 1962, Jamaica was a British colony so at least some white Brits must’ve lived there over the course of the centuries.

    Or am I wrong about that?

    This goalie actually looks faintly Irish for some reason.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  408. @YetAnotherAnon

    She is a batsman.

    S Rodrigues is Portugues Z Rodriguez is Spanish.

  409. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    When I watched the movie Cool Runnings, none of the bobsledders looked like this lovely young lady.

    Jamaica is 92% black, but I concede there are some white people on the island. Apparently two of them are her maternal grandparents.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  410. @ScarletNumber

    As well as both of her parents, perhaps. That’s ruddy skin, chestnut red hair, and a few freckles. Looks quite Gaelic, to be honest. Getting that Emerald Isle vibe about her. Not even a question of “if” she could pass, but “definitely” could pass for being 95-100% white.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  411. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Well her parents are both white but neither was born in Jamaica. Her father is German, as her last name implies. Mom was born here to Jamaican parents.

  412. @ScarletNumber

    Perhaps I do not understand the first question. Yes, Paula Radcliffe is famous. A member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, holder of the record (2:15:25) for the women’s marathon since 2003(!) – among other records, and so on. If your point is to initiate some niggling debate about whether someone who is not known to a sufficient number of stupid people after the fashion of, say, Taylor Swift or Justin Beiber, then, no, sadly, Paula Radcliffe is not famous by such criteria – neither are Plutarch or Dostoyevsky. I don’t see the point of such distinctions, though, unless it be that people are increasingly both ignorant and stupid.

    I did not know these things about Nancy Kerrigan and her husband. I congratulate her husband, though; because she was gorgeous in her heyday and she appears to be aging well to boot; she also has seems to have good personality from what limited assessment I can make of it.

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