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I was over the hill and stopped by the La Brea Tar Pits in the insurance company highrise district, where hundreds of Ice Age wooly mammoths met their demises. Here are the tragic fiberglass statues of Daddy Mammoth sinking into the ooze while Mommy and Baby Mammoth trumpet forlornly:

I was pleased to find that movie star Emma Stone shares my regard for the Tar Pits (even if movie star Ryan Gosling does not). From an interview promoting their movie La La Land:

Q. When you moved to Los Angeles as teenagers, did you have an image of the city fixed in your heads?

Emma Stone: I had been here before and seen the Hollywood sign and the Walk of Fame and Grauman’s. So I was more just figuring out how to live here. I stayed within my little Miracle Mile area, around the Tar Pits. That was mind-blowing for me, the Tar Pits. You go to the Tar Pits often?

Ryan Gosling: I don’t go there often.

Stone: Do you even know about the Tar Pits?

Gosling: Sure, I know about the Tar Pits. [Whispers to interviewer: What is she talking about?] OK. I’ve never been to the Tar Pits.

Stone: [Incredulous] You’ve never been to the Tar Pits? Ever?

Gosling: This is turning into an intervention.

Stone: It’s just fascinating that in the middle of Los Angeles, there are pits of tar with the bones of a woolly mammoth and some dinosaurs.

Actually, I don’t think there are any dinosaurs in the La Brea Tar Pits: just mammoths, mastodons, dire wolves, giant ground sloths, camels, and sabre-tooth tigers. But I appreciate Miss Stone’s enthusiasm.

Gosling: [To interviewer] Can we cut this short? I have to go to the Tar Pits … right now.

I strolled over to the giant Los Angeles County Museum of Art campus and dropped by Los Angeles’s most hugely popular work of art of this century: Urban Light, a grid of 202 vintage 1920s-30s street lights on Wilshire Boulevard. It’s basically wall-t0-wall girls having their pictures taken.

My guess is that the recent street light-centric movie La-La Land was inspired by this installation.

My suggestion is that every city in America should have its own version of Urban Light on some downtown block.

Obsolete street lamps are, presumably, a dime a dozen.

They’re pretty useless at illuminating the sidewalk because they shine the majority of their light up.

But as emblems of downtown glamor, as reminders of how our ancestors had style, they can’t be beat.

One question for other cities is whether the estate of the late artist Chris Burden owns the rights to displaying junked street lamps as works of art.

But you can’t deny that Burden came up with an idea that makes people happy.

 
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  1. Out of curiosity, what’s the crime-rate around there? I’ve always been told well-lit streets are safer.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Low. There are a huge number of tourists and plenty of cops.
    , @BenKenobi
    My gf works in architecture and she's told me modern design specifically tries to prevent dark corners where bad things can happen.
    , @interesting
    One of my brats just moved about a mile from there. He loves it, the rent is ridiculously high.
  2. @The Alarmist
    Out of curiosity, what's the crime-rate around there? I've always been told well-lit streets are safer.

    Low. There are a huge number of tourists and plenty of cops.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Low. There are a huge number of tourists and plenty of cops
     
    New Orleans is one of the most violent cities in America, but you're quite safe watching Mardi Gras parades. Even if a crime is committed, the odds are low that it will be on you.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Steve, the perfect mix for a safe visit. Lots of tourists and lots of cops.
  3. They’re pretty useless at illuminating the sidewalk because they shine the majority of their light up.

    Difficult choice.

    Do we copy our evil ancestors and produce light pollution injuring the night sky, or do we allow our evil contemporaries to shine the light on the sidewalks thereby illuminating the identifying features of the muggers.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri

    "They’re pretty useless at illuminating the sidewalk because they shine the majority of their light up."
     
    How about retrofitting the tops with convex reflectors that scatter the light back down into the street? Seems like a cheap and easy way to have one's cake and eat it too.
    , @Anon
    Paul Bogard's book The End of Night includes an interesting history of how electricity has gradually done away with the starry night sky, from a number of different perspectives. In Paris and other cities, gas streetlights were not used when there was a gibbous or full moon.

    And there are modern studies that claim that less light is safer: occasional pools of bright light kill your night vision between lights. And people are more afraid in the dark, which ironically correlates with higher situational alertness and overall safer behavior.

    There is some controversy over this, but a scholar of sleep patterns analyzed diaries and letter from the US in that eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and pre electricity rural and small town people would wake up in the middle of the night and chat with their neighbors for an hour or two, then go back to sleep. Sundown was early.
    , @Pericles

    or do we allow our evil contemporaries to shine the light on the sidewalks thereby illuminating the identifying features of the muggers.

     

    Which, it is vital to note, would be racist.
  4. anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:

    Crips and Bloods are evidently big Chris Burden fans too:

    Shoot (1971)

    Artwork description & Analysis: Shoot is the piece for which Burden is infamously known. He asked a friend to shoot him with a .22 rifle from a distance of 15 feet. The bullet was originally supposed to nick the side of Burden’s arm, but the shooter was slightly off target and the bullet went through the arm instead. This piece presented exactly what happens when a person is shot so that the audience could experience it in person, and not just in a detached setting such as watching the television while sitting comfortably on the couch. The viewer can only recoil in shock at realizing that an actual person was just shot in front of them. In describing the piece, Burden stated that “it was really disgusting, and there was a smoking hole in my arm.” This work also poses questions about the nature of power and following orders, a theme especially indicated by the imperative of the title Shoot, itself. To what extent are we required to follow orders? What are the boundaries between rules and responsibility to fellow human beings? Burden’s work was also a way of re-sensitizing people to the violence that had become less and less shocking due to its prevalence in the news. Finally, in addition to challenging the art world’s traditional preference for the “fine art” of painting, for example, what Burden really seemed to be challenging was himself and his own dedication to his art. One cannot argue that someone who so consistently put himself in physical and mortal danger for his work was not completely dedicated to his art: in fact, Burden said that one of the reasons he performed Shoot was so that he would be taken seriously as an artist.

    .22 rifle and bullet – N/A

    https://www.theartstory.org/artist-burden-chris.htm

    • Replies: @TWS
    A stint in prison would really establish his artistic credentials.
    , @Inquiring Mind
    Wasn't there a Sopranos episode where an aspiring rapper was claiming that one needed to be wounded in a shooting to have any chance at a career in that musical genre? And one of Tony's "hit men" went up to the guy and explained how that "could be arranged"?
  5. I have nothing useful to say at this hour except- wow! that shot of Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling brings to mind the catchphrase that acting really is modeling for ugly people. Sorry, just a random thought from other threads that has been stuck in my head, but hasn’t anyone else noticed that, objectively and aside from the reflected charisma of being on the silver screen, most really big movie stars aren’t really that beautiful/handsome? In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively. Sure there have been some true knockouts who’ve made it big (in term of undisputed 10’s I’d pick in their prime Charlize Theron, Sharon Stone, Kelly LeBrock, maybe Angelina Jolie) but this is almost always the rare case of a model who stoops to acting and surprises people by actually having the chops for it, and not someone who has worked their way up from high school productions of OUR TOWN to dinner theater productions, etc.

    • Replies: @El Dato

    most really big movie stars aren’t really that beautiful/handsome?
     
    But why should they?

    It would be like watching CGI movies or the Buildup to the Pr0nz all the time.

    Beautiful = Sigourney Weaver doing her job in Alien
    , @ChrisZ
    Interesting and provocative comment, Abe. I can't say I've ever heard that "catchphrase" about modeling vs. acting; and I assume you're just exaggerating in the suggestion that Emma Stone and Gosling are "ugly people."

    But it occurs to me that part of what we appreciate as beauty in real people has to do with the animation of facial features (a winning smile, a twinkle in the eyes) or attitudes of posture or gesture (poise, graceful movment of the head and limbs): that is, characteristics of living.

    The beauty that can be conveyed through a static image--whether a modeling photo or a work of art--is undeniably special; but it's rare and, when you think about it, somewhat artificial. It's the beauty of a captured and preserved moment: maybe a species of beauty more attuned with death than with life.
    , @Mr. Grey
    Hedy Lamarr
    , @Alfa158
    But; put Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone together and they look terrific. You will observe that Ryan’s looks are a little off because his eyes are set too close together, while Emma’s are too far apart. Put them together, average them, and they’re perfect!

    Ryan is the new Patron Star of Los Angeles movies. I like to think he plays the same person in all his LA movies. In Driver he is a getaway man who reforms himself, abandons a life of crime and becomes the Jazz pianist in LaLaLand, only to eventually figure out he is really a renegade Bladerunner 1 replicant and ends his life working as a Bladerunner in 2049. It makes sense and explains how he was able to literally crush the hit man in the elevator scene in Driver, then later recover from getting stabbed and calmly drive away into the sunset.
    , @PhysicistDave
    Abe wrote:

    In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively.
     
    I wouldn't rate her that high.

    Except she can actually act. I believed her in La La Land.

    This is good news for all of us who do not look like Robert Redford or Tom Cruise (or even Ryan Gosling).

    The bad news is that even in old age Robert Redford projects a personality on screen that most of us do not have: I still remember in Winter Soldier where he stole every scene he was in from the younger actors.

    This "star quality" thing is real, and it's not just good looks: it goes back to Bogie, Jimmy Stewart, Kate Hepburn, etc.
    , @Alden
    You know who's really beautiful? Amy Adams. Her face is just perfect. So is, was, Michelle Pfieffer. For some reason, a lot of men don't think Nicole Kidman is attractive. But objectively,, she is just about perfect from ankles to the top of her head.
    , @Nathan
    1) You're nuts about Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling.

    2) But fundamentally, you're right. I've noticed that more and more recently, actresses that get big roles aren't necessarily the best looking ones. My theory was that it had something to do with straight guy vs gay guy casting. Some movies are obviously made by straight dudes, and others not so much. Example: Bryan Singer makes a Superman movie and Kate Bosworth is Lois Lane. She wears sensible business clothes. Zack Snyder makes a Superman movie and Amy Adams is Lois Lane. She splashes around in a bath tub for reasons I'm sure had something to do with the plot.
  6. @Abe
    I have nothing useful to say at this hour except- wow! that shot of Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling brings to mind the catchphrase that acting really is modeling for ugly people. Sorry, just a random thought from other threads that has been stuck in my head, but hasn’t anyone else noticed that, objectively and aside from the reflected charisma of being on the silver screen, most really big movie stars aren’t really that beautiful/handsome? In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively. Sure there have been some true knockouts who’ve made it big (in term of undisputed 10’s I’d pick in their prime Charlize Theron, Sharon Stone, Kelly LeBrock, maybe Angelina Jolie) but this is almost always the rare case of a model who stoops to acting and surprises people by actually having the chops for it, and not someone who has worked their way up from high school productions of OUR TOWN to dinner theater productions, etc.

    most really big movie stars aren’t really that beautiful/handsome?

    But why should they?

    It would be like watching CGI movies or the Buildup to the Pr0nz all the time.

    Beautiful = Sigourney Weaver doing her job in Alien

  7. This is turning into an intervention.

    Is this some new SJW phrase?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Nah, it’s from 80s/90s drug culture, as befits Gosling’s age. The joke is a little pushed. Gosling probably knows about the pits but considers them a little too nerdy/old-timey for his brand.
  8. @iffen
    They’re pretty useless at illuminating the sidewalk because they shine the majority of their light up.

    Difficult choice.

    Do we copy our evil ancestors and produce light pollution injuring the night sky, or do we allow our evil contemporaries to shine the light on the sidewalks thereby illuminating the identifying features of the muggers.

    “They’re pretty useless at illuminating the sidewalk because they shine the majority of their light up.”

    How about retrofitting the tops with convex reflectors that scatter the light back down into the street? Seems like a cheap and easy way to have one’s cake and eat it too.

  9. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: A bad case of the pinks in Europe’s smallest country: Maths book asks “homophobic” questions: Fayot

    The [social-democratic] LSAP MP Franz Fayot has denounced a mathematics textbook for 16 year olds as “conveying the worst homophobic stereotypes”.

    A pair of questions in the maths book apparently refer to the redecoration plans of Xavier Bettel, the [liberal-democratic] DP prime minister, and Étienne Schneider, the LSAP deputy prime minister. Both are openly gay.

    In a parliamentary question submitted on 5 June to Claude Meisch, the DP education minister, Fayot asked why the education ministry did not ask for the maths problems to [be] amended or deleted from the book before being used in Luxembourg state schools.

    According to Fayot, in the second edition of “Clic & Maths 3e”, published by Editions de Boeck, students are asked questions about painting “the pink bedroom”. Students have to calculate the proportion of white and red paint that “Xavier” needs to mix to created pink. Students then need to calculate the proportion needed so that “Étienne” can have a lighter shade of pink.

    Bettel and Schneider’s first names are used, but their family names are not mentioned.

    “This work is a compulsory textbook in some sections of the 3rd year of classical secondary education (sections E, F and G). This is a special edition for Luxembourg,” Fayot stated.

  10. It’s basically wall-t0-wall girls having their pictures taken.

    Vibrant! The good kind!

  11. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen
    They’re pretty useless at illuminating the sidewalk because they shine the majority of their light up.

    Difficult choice.

    Do we copy our evil ancestors and produce light pollution injuring the night sky, or do we allow our evil contemporaries to shine the light on the sidewalks thereby illuminating the identifying features of the muggers.

    Paul Bogard’s book The End of Night includes an interesting history of how electricity has gradually done away with the starry night sky, from a number of different perspectives. In Paris and other cities, gas streetlights were not used when there was a gibbous or full moon.

    And there are modern studies that claim that less light is safer: occasional pools of bright light kill your night vision between lights. And people are more afraid in the dark, which ironically correlates with higher situational alertness and overall safer behavior.

    There is some controversy over this, but a scholar of sleep patterns analyzed diaries and letter from the US in that eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and pre electricity rural and small town people would wake up in the middle of the night and chat with their neighbors for an hour or two, then go back to sleep. Sundown was early.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @iffen
    We've given up a lot for what we have.
    , @Anonymouser
    'diaries and letter from the US in that eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and pre electricity rural and small town people would wake up in the middle of the night and chat with their neighbors for an hour or two, then go back to sleep. Sundown was early.'

    This is actually an older thing more generally. Pre electricity fires were expensive so you would go to sleep when it got dark and bot veing able to sleep the whole way through you qould wake up five hours later for a couple of hpurs and then go back to bed. It was a way for people to socialise and also a way for people to be introspective when privacy was hard to come by. Shakespeare refered to it as your first and second sleep.
  12. Perhaps helpful to readers to have a wide view of the entire Urban Light creation in its setting

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Informative, but a bit harsh as well. Almost like a spoiler.
    , @Alden
    Great shot. In day time it's just a lot of poles, but at night it's a womderland. Another wonderful sight is the lawn in front of the Mormon Temple on Santa Monica Blvd. at night in December. It's a huge several acre lawn with widely spaced smallish trees. And in December they cover the trees with Christmas lights. Stupendous.
  13. @anonymous
    Crips and Bloods are evidently big Chris Burden fans too:

    Shoot (1971)

    Artwork description & Analysis: Shoot is the piece for which Burden is infamously known. He asked a friend to shoot him with a .22 rifle from a distance of 15 feet. The bullet was originally supposed to nick the side of Burden's arm, but the shooter was slightly off target and the bullet went through the arm instead. This piece presented exactly what happens when a person is shot so that the audience could experience it in person, and not just in a detached setting such as watching the television while sitting comfortably on the couch. The viewer can only recoil in shock at realizing that an actual person was just shot in front of them. In describing the piece, Burden stated that "it was really disgusting, and there was a smoking hole in my arm." This work also poses questions about the nature of power and following orders, a theme especially indicated by the imperative of the title Shoot, itself. To what extent are we required to follow orders? What are the boundaries between rules and responsibility to fellow human beings? Burden's work was also a way of re-sensitizing people to the violence that had become less and less shocking due to its prevalence in the news. Finally, in addition to challenging the art world's traditional preference for the "fine art" of painting, for example, what Burden really seemed to be challenging was himself and his own dedication to his art. One cannot argue that someone who so consistently put himself in physical and mortal danger for his work was not completely dedicated to his art: in fact, Burden said that one of the reasons he performed Shoot was so that he would be taken seriously as an artist.

    .22 rifle and bullet - N/A

    https://www.theartstory.org/artist-burden-chris.htm
     

    A stint in prison would really establish his artistic credentials.

  14. Obsolete street lamps are, presumably, a dime a dozen.

    They’re pretty useless at illuminating the sidewalk because they shine the majority of their light up.

    But as emblems of downtown glamor, as reminders of how our ancestors had style, they can’t be beat.

    Sure, as reminders of what our society once was, they’re great. But as a marker of what our society has become, piles of human excrement and discarded needles in front of a tattoo parlor are much better.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    No, a Christian pre-school would better reflect modern "ambiance".
  15. This is a good example of modern sculpture/installation art that people like. Another would be Cloud Gate, AKA “the Bean,” in Chicago’s Millennium Park, beneath which every couple wants to have their picture taken in the reflection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Gate

    There is also installation art that people hate, most famously Richard Serra’s hideous “Tilted Arc,” a wall of ugly, rusty steel that bisected Foley Federal Plaza in Manhattan from 1981 until 1989, when it was removed due to popular demand. It seemed to express the sculptor’s hostility and contempt for any aesthetic standard as well as for the people who would have to look at it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilted_Arc

    • Replies: @StAugustine
    That brings back a memory - a landmark on campus was called "the ugly statue", as in, everybody meet at 9pm at the ugly statue. It was essentially a bunch of I-beams chaotically welded together and painted a hideous mustard yellow and rusty red.
    , @Lurker

    It seemed to express the sculptor’s hostility and contempt for any aesthetic standard as well as for the people who would have to look at it
     
    (((Richard Serra))). EFT.
    , @Hypnotoad666
    In the plaza right next to the "Urban Light" installation is a Jeff Koons piece (which sold for $25 million) called "Balloon Monkey." http://lacmaonfire.blogspot.com/2017/12/koons-monkey-business-at-lacma.html

    I know that sometimes "a cigar is just a cigar." But I still feel this sculpture should come with some sort of trigger warning.

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mNDiOph54I0/WjcXiPvE6vI/AAAAAAAAGAA/vg-sKvlrHsMfPw7o4pt_pzBTXO2TeHIGwCLcBGAs/s1600/Back.jpg

    , @Alden
    Is that big Picasso sculpture still in the Chicago civic center?
    , @Craig Nelsen
    The Man / Woman woman sculpture marring the facade of the beautiful Penn Station in Baltimore has to rank as one of the most spiteful pieces of public art ever. Artist Jonathan Borofsky
    was paid $10,000 by the citizens of Baltimore to erect this visual loogey:

    https://www.trbimg.com/img-54d3eba1/turbine/bcp-the-muchhated-malefemale-statue-at-penn-st-002/950/950x534

    It got only one positive response: an article in the City Paper by a cross-dressing prostitute who liked the sculpture because it was a big "fuck you" to heterosexual suburbanites.

  16. San Diego has done a good with its gaslamp district.

  17. @Harry Baldwin
    This is a good example of modern sculpture/installation art that people like. Another would be Cloud Gate, AKA "the Bean," in Chicago's Millennium Park, beneath which every couple wants to have their picture taken in the reflection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Gate

    There is also installation art that people hate, most famously Richard Serra's hideous "Tilted Arc," a wall of ugly, rusty steel that bisected Foley Federal Plaza in Manhattan from 1981 until 1989, when it was removed due to popular demand. It seemed to express the sculptor's hostility and contempt for any aesthetic standard as well as for the people who would have to look at it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilted_Arc

    That brings back a memory – a landmark on campus was called “the ugly statue”, as in, everybody meet at 9pm at the ugly statue. It was essentially a bunch of I-beams chaotically welded together and painted a hideous mustard yellow and rusty red.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    StAuggie, At my Jesuit college there was a statue of St. Issac Joques, a new world martyr. The statue featured St Issac with his right arm extended skyward. We used to say meet you at St Fair Catch. Football fans will get the idea.
  18. Sharon Stone is more beautiful and has a better body than Emma Stone — at their prime.

    Ryan Gosling is from Canada — just like Teddy Cruz.

    But as emblems of downtown glamor, as reminders of how our ancestors had style, they can’t be beat.

    Van Morrison got inspired by some broad named Bailey and some Tibetan and he wrote some lyrics about glamor and light.

    The Bailey broad and the Tibetan had some notion of the world as illusion or the illusion as the world and the stolid Scottish blockhead Van Morrison dug it but good.

    Dweller on the Threshold — portion of lyrics:

    I have seen without perceiving

    I have been another man

    Let me pierce the realm of glamor

    So I know just what I am

    I will walk out of the darkness

    And I’ll walk into the light

    And I’ll sing the song of ages

    And the dawn will end the night

    Van Morrison also used glamor in a more cynical manner in his song Aryan Mist — portion of lyrics:

    What can the matter be

    In a world full of glamor

    Does it lift you up

    Or is it railway carriage charm

    • Replies: @JMcG
    Ivan Morrison is a product of Northern Ireland. Or “Norn Iron” as he would say.
  19. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:

    Chicago has that silvery mirror amoeba sculpture thing.

  20. À la lanterne! Les guerriers de la justice sociale à la lanterne!

  21. “My suggestion is that every city in America should have its own version of Urban Light on some downtown block.”

    Why go downtown to get your gaslighting? The MSM will bring it to your screen for free.

  22. “My guess is that the recent street light-centric movie La-La Land was inspired by this installation.”

    I’m disappointed by the critical praise heaped on La La Land. While I got the references to old movies, I felt like I was watching the opus of an uninspired film student who got the idea for the movie from a pile of old VCR tapes he ran across at a garage sale. The uncharismatic main characters look like they were caste from the express line of Whole Foods, lacking minimum singing, acting, and dancing talent. And the whole thing comes off as a pastiche of variety show numbers from the Brady Bunch Hour.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @jimbo
    I actually couldn't make it through. The tunes seemed sort of catchy, but the weak singing/dancing (compounded by the decision to go all "authentic" and have the non-singers record live on set) meant it was just painful to watch.
    , @Desiderius
    I keep finding Gosling better in theory than in practice.
  23. I’ve always been fascinated by the concept of ‘the Lamplighter’ ever since I was tiny and my mother read my RL Stevenson’s poem from an ancient (probably from my grandmother’s time) leather bound copy of ‘a Child’s Garden of Verse’.

    Just recently I googled to see how many bars and lounges are named ‘the Lamplighter’ , and there are still quite a few. These conjure up images of dark places with ‘No one under 21 allow’ signs in front. A relic of Sailer’s “Old Weird America” . Like the first couple of hits on ‘Lamplighter Lounge’ gets you an ad for ‘the Drewsmen’ –two (late) middle aged white dudes and an Asian contemporary, who will be appearing at ‘the Lamplighter Lounge’ in Delmont, PA. .

    Delmont is MAGA country.

    Boomer fix: ‘the Drewsmen with ‘the Vogues’, — sadly not at the Lamplighter.

  24. I’ve been to the Tar Pits a couple of times, one of my kids living in the neighborhood..Great place!.The major enigma pointed out by one of the exhibits is that far too many saber tooth tigers have been found, several hundred so far, in comparison with prey animals….

    • Replies: @Cortes
    When they got too long in the tooth they went there to die.
    , @JMcG
    I would think that the predators would be drawn to their prey in distress and then be stuck themselves. One dying mastodon could lure several tigers this way. I agree that there should be many fewer apex predators though.
    , @El Dato
    Saber tooth tigers were addicted to oil.
  25. What fascinates me about LA is the well disguised rig derricks. The lengths one has to go to for the NIMBY types.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/cardiff-oil-tower-synagogue

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The lengths one has to go to for the NIMBY types.
     
    Are you familiar with the concept of an "eyesore"? Or "good neighbor"? Or even "property values"?

    What would you rather see from your front porch?


    https://www.machinedesign.com/sites/machinedesign.com/files/styles/article_featured_retina/public/uploads/2014/06/1-wind-turbines-promo_0.gif?itok=e5W4QFFJ

    https://www.pitara.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2002/10/dutch-windmill-netherlands.jpg
    , @Alden
    Oh, thanks for mentioning them and posting pictures. I love the real ones, just nodding away making money, one of the reasons we are the 5th largest economy in the world.
  26. @Abe
    I have nothing useful to say at this hour except- wow! that shot of Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling brings to mind the catchphrase that acting really is modeling for ugly people. Sorry, just a random thought from other threads that has been stuck in my head, but hasn’t anyone else noticed that, objectively and aside from the reflected charisma of being on the silver screen, most really big movie stars aren’t really that beautiful/handsome? In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively. Sure there have been some true knockouts who’ve made it big (in term of undisputed 10’s I’d pick in their prime Charlize Theron, Sharon Stone, Kelly LeBrock, maybe Angelina Jolie) but this is almost always the rare case of a model who stoops to acting and surprises people by actually having the chops for it, and not someone who has worked their way up from high school productions of OUR TOWN to dinner theater productions, etc.

    Interesting and provocative comment, Abe. I can’t say I’ve ever heard that “catchphrase” about modeling vs. acting; and I assume you’re just exaggerating in the suggestion that Emma Stone and Gosling are “ugly people.”

    But it occurs to me that part of what we appreciate as beauty in real people has to do with the animation of facial features (a winning smile, a twinkle in the eyes) or attitudes of posture or gesture (poise, graceful movment of the head and limbs): that is, characteristics of living.

    The beauty that can be conveyed through a static image–whether a modeling photo or a work of art–is undeniably special; but it’s rare and, when you think about it, somewhat artificial. It’s the beauty of a captured and preserved moment: maybe a species of beauty more attuned with death than with life.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Movie stars frequently have charming personalities.
    , @Desiderius
    That last bit at the end there is quite profound.

    There is some quote by a great author that his best thoughts are dead by the time they reach the page, or something along those lines. Your insight cast’s his in an entirely different light.
  27. @The Alarmist
    Out of curiosity, what's the crime-rate around there? I've always been told well-lit streets are safer.

    My gf works in architecture and she’s told me modern design specifically tries to prevent dark corners where bad things can happen.

  28. @Brabantian
    Perhaps helpful to readers to have a wide view of the entire Urban Light creation in its setting
    https://i.ibb.co/XJ8wKM7/urban-light-los-angeles-county-museum-of-art.jpg

    Informative, but a bit harsh as well. Almost like a spoiler.

  29. @JimB
    “My guess is that the recent street light-centric movie La-La Land was inspired by this installation.”

    I’m disappointed by the critical praise heaped on La La Land. While I got the references to old movies, I felt like I was watching the opus of an uninspired film student who got the idea for the movie from a pile of old VCR tapes he ran across at a garage sale. The uncharismatic main characters look like they were caste from the express line of Whole Foods, lacking minimum singing, acting, and dancing talent. And the whole thing comes off as a pastiche of variety show numbers from the Brady Bunch Hour.

    I actually couldn’t make it through. The tunes seemed sort of catchy, but the weak singing/dancing (compounded by the decision to go all “authentic” and have the non-singers record live on set) meant it was just painful to watch.

  30. @Abe
    I have nothing useful to say at this hour except- wow! that shot of Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling brings to mind the catchphrase that acting really is modeling for ugly people. Sorry, just a random thought from other threads that has been stuck in my head, but hasn’t anyone else noticed that, objectively and aside from the reflected charisma of being on the silver screen, most really big movie stars aren’t really that beautiful/handsome? In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively. Sure there have been some true knockouts who’ve made it big (in term of undisputed 10’s I’d pick in their prime Charlize Theron, Sharon Stone, Kelly LeBrock, maybe Angelina Jolie) but this is almost always the rare case of a model who stoops to acting and surprises people by actually having the chops for it, and not someone who has worked their way up from high school productions of OUR TOWN to dinner theater productions, etc.

    Hedy Lamarr

    • Replies: @Alden
    Vivien Leigh, Gene Tierney and all those dark haired fair skinned beauties with perfect faces.
  31. @LittleNano
    What fascinates me about LA is the well disguised rig derricks. The lengths one has to go to for the NIMBY types.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/cardiff-oil-tower-synagogue

    The lengths one has to go to for the NIMBY types.

    Are you familiar with the concept of an “eyesore”? Or “good neighbor”? Or even “property values”?

    What would you rather see from your front porch?

  32. @Steve Sailer
    Low. There are a huge number of tourists and plenty of cops.

    Low. There are a huge number of tourists and plenty of cops

    New Orleans is one of the most violent cities in America, but you’re quite safe watching Mardi Gras parades. Even if a crime is committed, the odds are low that it will be on you.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Just don't wander even one street away from the tourist district. The crime-and-disorder gradient is very steep there.
  33. This brings back a long-lost memory of mama, papa, and junior mammoth from visiting this is a kid. I remember feeling quite affected by the scene.

    Papa’s last words before jumping in the pit were, “hey, watch this!”

  34. @Harry Baldwin
    This is a good example of modern sculpture/installation art that people like. Another would be Cloud Gate, AKA "the Bean," in Chicago's Millennium Park, beneath which every couple wants to have their picture taken in the reflection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Gate

    There is also installation art that people hate, most famously Richard Serra's hideous "Tilted Arc," a wall of ugly, rusty steel that bisected Foley Federal Plaza in Manhattan from 1981 until 1989, when it was removed due to popular demand. It seemed to express the sculptor's hostility and contempt for any aesthetic standard as well as for the people who would have to look at it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilted_Arc

    It seemed to express the sculptor’s hostility and contempt for any aesthetic standard as well as for the people who would have to look at it

    (((Richard Serra))). EFT.

  35. @pyrrhus
    I've been to the Tar Pits a couple of times, one of my kids living in the neighborhood..Great place!.The major enigma pointed out by one of the exhibits is that far too many saber tooth tigers have been found, several hundred so far, in comparison with prey animals....

    When they got too long in the tooth they went there to die.

  36. @Abe
    I have nothing useful to say at this hour except- wow! that shot of Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling brings to mind the catchphrase that acting really is modeling for ugly people. Sorry, just a random thought from other threads that has been stuck in my head, but hasn’t anyone else noticed that, objectively and aside from the reflected charisma of being on the silver screen, most really big movie stars aren’t really that beautiful/handsome? In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively. Sure there have been some true knockouts who’ve made it big (in term of undisputed 10’s I’d pick in their prime Charlize Theron, Sharon Stone, Kelly LeBrock, maybe Angelina Jolie) but this is almost always the rare case of a model who stoops to acting and surprises people by actually having the chops for it, and not someone who has worked their way up from high school productions of OUR TOWN to dinner theater productions, etc.

    But; put Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone together and they look terrific. You will observe that Ryan’s looks are a little off because his eyes are set too close together, while Emma’s are too far apart. Put them together, average them, and they’re perfect!

    Ryan is the new Patron Star of Los Angeles movies. I like to think he plays the same person in all his LA movies. In Driver he is a getaway man who reforms himself, abandons a life of crime and becomes the Jazz pianist in LaLaLand, only to eventually figure out he is really a renegade Bladerunner 1 replicant and ends his life working as a Bladerunner in 2049. It makes sense and explains how he was able to literally crush the hit man in the elevator scene in Driver, then later recover from getting stabbed and calmly drive away into the sunset.

  37. @Charles Pewitt
    Sharon Stone is more beautiful and has a better body than Emma Stone -- at their prime.

    Ryan Gosling is from Canada -- just like Teddy Cruz.

    But as emblems of downtown glamor, as reminders of how our ancestors had style, they can’t be beat.

     

    Van Morrison got inspired by some broad named Bailey and some Tibetan and he wrote some lyrics about glamor and light.

    The Bailey broad and the Tibetan had some notion of the world as illusion or the illusion as the world and the stolid Scottish blockhead Van Morrison dug it but good.

    Dweller on the Threshold -- portion of lyrics:

    I have seen without perceiving

    I have been another man

    Let me pierce the realm of glamor

    So I know just what I am

    I will walk out of the darkness

    And I'll walk into the light

    And I'll sing the song of ages

    And the dawn will end the night

    Van Morrison also used glamor in a more cynical manner in his song Aryan Mist -- portion of lyrics:

    What can the matter be

    In a world full of glamor

    Does it lift you up

    Or is it railway carriage charm

    Ivan Morrison is a product of Northern Ireland. Or “Norn Iron” as he would say.

  38. @pyrrhus
    I've been to the Tar Pits a couple of times, one of my kids living in the neighborhood..Great place!.The major enigma pointed out by one of the exhibits is that far too many saber tooth tigers have been found, several hundred so far, in comparison with prey animals....

    I would think that the predators would be drawn to their prey in distress and then be stuck themselves. One dying mastodon could lure several tigers this way. I agree that there should be many fewer apex predators though.

  39. That’s the area where my mother grew up in the late 1920s and 1930s.

  40. @pyrrhus
    I've been to the Tar Pits a couple of times, one of my kids living in the neighborhood..Great place!.The major enigma pointed out by one of the exhibits is that far too many saber tooth tigers have been found, several hundred so far, in comparison with prey animals....

    Saber tooth tigers were addicted to oil.

  41. The recurring imagery of street (gas) lamps in 1930’s London is the only part of the Mary Poppins sequel that captures the original’s magic, even though the key song/choreography for it is overcooked.

  42. Tiger Mom’s eldest daughter hired for a clerkship by Kav.

    His other clerk is an evangelical who went to Wheaton College and Harvard Law.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    They'd make a nice couple.

    Those girls don't look much like Jed Rosenfeld, hmm. Could Tiger Mom have gone outside the home in search of a more adaptive genome? Not that I can imagine how, from her point of view, there could possibly exist sperm superior to Jed's.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Lot:

    According to R B Ginsburg Kav hired all females. Does that suggest that the solo individual pictured is sexually ambidextrous?
    , @Anonymous
    He needs to put a baby inside her.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Lot:

    The Chua maidens' portrait bears an unsettling and uncanny resemblance to the infamous beach portrait of Nicole Brown Simpson's predatory sisters.
  43. My daughter took her graduation photos at that thing. I was hanging out on the sidewalk and a film crew came up to me and asked if I liked the Three Stooges. I said sure who doesn’t? They proceeded to film me doing various Stooges impression (how do you “do” Shemp?). Long story short, if you’ve ever been channel surf and come across the Time-Life infomercial for the Three Stooges, that’s me with the beard saying “wise guy”.

  44. @The Alarmist
    Out of curiosity, what's the crime-rate around there? I've always been told well-lit streets are safer.

    One of my brats just moved about a mile from there. He loves it, the rent is ridiculously high.

  45. Who’s that guy smooching with his mom? Ewww.

  46. @Steve Sailer
    Low. There are a huge number of tourists and plenty of cops.

    Steve, the perfect mix for a safe visit. Lots of tourists and lots of cops.

  47. @Lot
    Tiger Mom’s eldest daughter hired for a clerkship by Kav.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/tiger_sisters1a.jpg

    His other clerk is an evangelical who went to Wheaton College and Harvard Law.

    https://today.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/20170505CommencementProfiles_LGranger002web-1800x1200.jpg

    They’d make a nice couple.

    Those girls don’t look much like Jed Rosenfeld, hmm. Could Tiger Mom have gone outside the home in search of a more adaptive genome? Not that I can imagine how, from her point of view, there could possibly exist sperm superior to Jed’s.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    IJ, low blow my friend. Not every child looks exactly like both mom and dad. If I was their dad and you made that comment to my face I'd break your nose. And, they are attractive.
    , @JimB
    My sense of the statistics tells me that 80% of Asian-Caucasians look Asian (like Tiger Mom's older daughter) or Mulatto/Amerindian (like Tiger Mom's younger daughter), 15% look exotic white, while 5% can actually pass.
    , @Kaganovitch
    Rubinfeld not Rosenfeld. Also not very nice of you.
  48. La La Land is the first romance I’ve seen where both the girl and the guy decide to abandon their relationship….for the sake of their professional careers.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Maybe the subtle message was that doing such a thing is now (finally) as old-fashioned as the movie.
  49. There are some awesome old-time cast iron street lamps in St Louis. For example in front of 4648 Maryland Avenue.

    That’s in the (re)gentrifying West End neighborhood.

  50. @Abe
    I have nothing useful to say at this hour except- wow! that shot of Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling brings to mind the catchphrase that acting really is modeling for ugly people. Sorry, just a random thought from other threads that has been stuck in my head, but hasn’t anyone else noticed that, objectively and aside from the reflected charisma of being on the silver screen, most really big movie stars aren’t really that beautiful/handsome? In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively. Sure there have been some true knockouts who’ve made it big (in term of undisputed 10’s I’d pick in their prime Charlize Theron, Sharon Stone, Kelly LeBrock, maybe Angelina Jolie) but this is almost always the rare case of a model who stoops to acting and surprises people by actually having the chops for it, and not someone who has worked their way up from high school productions of OUR TOWN to dinner theater productions, etc.

    Abe wrote:

    In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively.

    I wouldn’t rate her that high.

    Except she can actually act. I believed her in La La Land.

    This is good news for all of us who do not look like Robert Redford or Tom Cruise (or even Ryan Gosling).

    The bad news is that even in old age Robert Redford projects a personality on screen that most of us do not have: I still remember in Winter Soldier where he stole every scene he was in from the younger actors.

    This “star quality” thing is real, and it’s not just good looks: it goes back to Bogie, Jimmy Stewart, Kate Hepburn, etc.

    • Replies: @Alden
    I've never been able to stand Stewart or Hepburn. The best old time actor was Ray Milland, because he was a real actor who played different parts. John Wayne, Gable, Stewart just played themselves over and over and over again. It's weird how I loathe Hepburn. She was beautiful with the looks I admire most. But she just seemed to be such an arrogant witch with that phony drama school voice. And then I found out she was a liberal lesbian from a communist ultra wealthy background. You can always tell a liberal woman by their arrogance. And she was the epitome of arrogant witch.

    Stewart was just a stuttering nerd. Reminded me of Woody Allen yuck!
  51. @StAugustine
    That brings back a memory - a landmark on campus was called "the ugly statue", as in, everybody meet at 9pm at the ugly statue. It was essentially a bunch of I-beams chaotically welded together and painted a hideous mustard yellow and rusty red.

    StAuggie, At my Jesuit college there was a statue of St. Issac Joques, a new world martyr. The statue featured St Issac with his right arm extended skyward. We used to say meet you at St Fair Catch. Football fans will get the idea.

  52. @Reg Cæsar

    Low. There are a huge number of tourists and plenty of cops
     
    New Orleans is one of the most violent cities in America, but you're quite safe watching Mardi Gras parades. Even if a crime is committed, the odds are low that it will be on you.

    Just don’t wander even one street away from the tourist district. The crime-and-disorder gradient is very steep there.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Just don’t wander even one street away from the tourist district. The crime-and-disorder gradient is very steep there.
     
    My cousin lived in a nearby city. He told me it gets pretty bad once you get beyond the train depot, so try to avoid that.

    I was coming in on Amtrak.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    When you walk toward the outskirts of the French Quarter, you start to see signs saying, "Caution. Walk in large groups."
  53. @International Jew
    They'd make a nice couple.

    Those girls don't look much like Jed Rosenfeld, hmm. Could Tiger Mom have gone outside the home in search of a more adaptive genome? Not that I can imagine how, from her point of view, there could possibly exist sperm superior to Jed's.

    IJ, low blow my friend. Not every child looks exactly like both mom and dad. If I was their dad and you made that comment to my face I’d break your nose. And, they are attractive.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    If I thought there was even a 1% chance that Jed Rubinfeld reads iSteve, I would indeed have kept my comment to myself.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Buffalo Joe and International Jew,

    Fair game to cast aspersions on Jed since he currently seems to be embroiled in some type of sex shenanigan charges at Yale. (Another example of tenured male academics having excess fun at coeds expense?)

    , @Desiderius
    Meh. If you’re after the kind of girl who’ll french kiss bomb you as pictured in the non-mammoth photo at the top of this post.

    That guy has a very strange feeling in his stomach that doesn’t go away.
  54. @Buffalo Joe
    IJ, low blow my friend. Not every child looks exactly like both mom and dad. If I was their dad and you made that comment to my face I'd break your nose. And, they are attractive.

    If I thought there was even a 1% chance that Jed Rubinfeld reads iSteve, I would indeed have kept my comment to myself.

    • Replies: @Lot
    I don’t know if Amy Chua is a regular, but would be surprised if she didn’t read several of Steve’s posts. Before she was Tiger Mom, she was writing some non-PC articles and books.
  55. @Lot
    Tiger Mom’s eldest daughter hired for a clerkship by Kav.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/tiger_sisters1a.jpg

    His other clerk is an evangelical who went to Wheaton College and Harvard Law.

    https://today.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/20170505CommencementProfiles_LGranger002web-1800x1200.jpg

    Lot:

    According to R B Ginsburg Kav hired all females. Does that suggest that the solo individual pictured is sexually ambidextrous?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Guarantee you he’s as effeminate as Kav if not worse. If he ever makes it to the bench he’ll be torn to shreds by the women he pedestalizes and the feminism he hopes will win their hearts and minds.
    , @International Jew
    No, it suggests that RB Ginsburg is wrong, can't tell the difference, or maliciously pushing the Kav-as-sexual-predator libel.
    , @Forbes
    IIRC, Kav ONLY hired female law clerks while on the DC Circuit bench. IDK his practice on the USSC.
    , @Forbes
    Someone has posted better info--or memory--that I do regarding Kav clerks. Apologies for misinformation..
  56. @jim jones

    This is turning into an intervention.
     
    Is this some new SJW phrase?

    Nah, it’s from 80s/90s drug culture, as befits Gosling’s age. The joke is a little pushed. Gosling probably knows about the pits but considers them a little too nerdy/old-timey for his brand.

  57. The Page Museum at the tar pits is a go-to attraction if you ever need to entertain kids in LA. The Miracle Mile stretch of Wilshire is also getting to have a really cool upscale, dense urban vibe that isn’t that common in LA.

    Of course, if the same exact tar had seeped there from an oil pipeline or something, the whole area would be closed down as a dangerous toxic waste site. And the city would have to pay tens of millions to scrub birds with toothbrushes as “environmental remediation.”

    But luckily it’s natural tar, which makes it a beautiful and interesting tourist attraction and a place for kids to play.

  58. @Dan Hayes
    Lot:

    According to R B Ginsburg Kav hired all females. Does that suggest that the solo individual pictured is sexually ambidextrous?

    Guarantee you he’s as effeminate as Kav if not worse. If he ever makes it to the bench he’ll be torn to shreds by the women he pedestalizes and the feminism he hopes will win their hearts and minds.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Lot
    They hire 2 new clerks every year.

    Kav definitely didn’t only hire women, though he hired more female clerks than average.

    The young man pictured also clerked for Kav on the DC Circuit court.
  59. Anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    Tiger Mom’s eldest daughter hired for a clerkship by Kav.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/tiger_sisters1a.jpg

    His other clerk is an evangelical who went to Wheaton College and Harvard Law.

    https://today.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/20170505CommencementProfiles_LGranger002web-1800x1200.jpg

    He needs to put a baby inside her.

  60. @Buffalo Joe
    IJ, low blow my friend. Not every child looks exactly like both mom and dad. If I was their dad and you made that comment to my face I'd break your nose. And, they are attractive.

    Buffalo Joe and International Jew,

    Fair game to cast aspersions on Jed since he currently seems to be embroiled in some type of sex shenanigan charges at Yale. (Another example of tenured male academics having excess fun at coeds expense?)

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Explains his attitude as depicted in the tiger mom book: he checked out from that marriage long ago
    , @Kaganovitch
    Nah, the details of the "shenanigans" even if 100 % true, are nothing but hysteria.
  61. @JimB
    “My guess is that the recent street light-centric movie La-La Land was inspired by this installation.”

    I’m disappointed by the critical praise heaped on La La Land. While I got the references to old movies, I felt like I was watching the opus of an uninspired film student who got the idea for the movie from a pile of old VCR tapes he ran across at a garage sale. The uncharismatic main characters look like they were caste from the express line of Whole Foods, lacking minimum singing, acting, and dancing talent. And the whole thing comes off as a pastiche of variety show numbers from the Brady Bunch Hour.

    I keep finding Gosling better in theory than in practice.

  62. @Buffalo Joe
    IJ, low blow my friend. Not every child looks exactly like both mom and dad. If I was their dad and you made that comment to my face I'd break your nose. And, they are attractive.

    Meh. If you’re after the kind of girl who’ll french kiss bomb you as pictured in the non-mammoth photo at the top of this post.

    That guy has a very strange feeling in his stomach that doesn’t go away.

  63. @Ali Choudhury
    La La Land is the first romance I've seen where both the girl and the guy decide to abandon their relationship....for the sake of their professional careers.

    Maybe the subtle message was that doing such a thing is now (finally) as old-fashioned as the movie.

  64. @Harry Baldwin
    This is a good example of modern sculpture/installation art that people like. Another would be Cloud Gate, AKA "the Bean," in Chicago's Millennium Park, beneath which every couple wants to have their picture taken in the reflection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Gate

    There is also installation art that people hate, most famously Richard Serra's hideous "Tilted Arc," a wall of ugly, rusty steel that bisected Foley Federal Plaza in Manhattan from 1981 until 1989, when it was removed due to popular demand. It seemed to express the sculptor's hostility and contempt for any aesthetic standard as well as for the people who would have to look at it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilted_Arc

    In the plaza right next to the “Urban Light” installation is a Jeff Koons piece (which sold for $25 million) called “Balloon Monkey.” http://lacmaonfire.blogspot.com/2017/12/koons-monkey-business-at-lacma.html

    I know that sometimes “a cigar is just a cigar.” But I still feel this sculpture should come with some sort of trigger warning.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    Looks like a Clown World balloon sculpture.
    , @AnotherDad

    But I still feel this sculpture should come with some sort of trigger warning.
     
    C'mon, no one's balls hang up.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    It would be fun to park Southern California's notorious Dickmobile on this plaza. Does it still exist?


    https://render.fineartamerica.com/images/rendered/square-dynamic/small/images-medium-large-private-5/1969-dmb-at-afi-gate-steve-paige.jpg


    https://d2cdo4blch85n8.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/1969-%E2%80%9DDickmobile%E2%80%9D-Art-Car-by-Steve-Paige-image-3-630x394.jpg

  65. @Mr. Anon

    Obsolete street lamps are, presumably, a dime a dozen.

    They’re pretty useless at illuminating the sidewalk because they shine the majority of their light up.

    But as emblems of downtown glamor, as reminders of how our ancestors had style, they can’t be beat.
     
    Sure, as reminders of what our society once was, they're great. But as a marker of what our society has become, piles of human excrement and discarded needles in front of a tattoo parlor are much better.

    No, a Christian pre-school would better reflect modern “ambiance”.

  66. Great idea–let’s murder what remains of dark and night.

    I mean it’s not like some of us are trying to look at the stars or other sky phenomona. Who needs them anyway? All that sky stuff is racist white male science stuff.

  67. @Hypnotoad666
    In the plaza right next to the "Urban Light" installation is a Jeff Koons piece (which sold for $25 million) called "Balloon Monkey." http://lacmaonfire.blogspot.com/2017/12/koons-monkey-business-at-lacma.html

    I know that sometimes "a cigar is just a cigar." But I still feel this sculpture should come with some sort of trigger warning.

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mNDiOph54I0/WjcXiPvE6vI/AAAAAAAAGAA/vg-sKvlrHsMfPw7o4pt_pzBTXO2TeHIGwCLcBGAs/s1600/Back.jpg

    Looks like a Clown World balloon sculpture.

  68. My guess is that the recent street light-centric movie La-La Land was inspired by this installation.

    Cut it out Steve, this is a fraud. California is gone.

    I was just down there this weekend to move another child #1 as she’s moving from book, lab and occasional clinic learning to practicing on live humans (and learning her medical Spanish) this next year.

    As a kid growing up in the Midwest in the 60s, i’d expected to live in California some day. But it was given away to immigrants instead. I spent the weekend looking at brake lights on the “freeways” and the being depressed by the crowded, shoddy, dystopia that is our future.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    If we only had computer-brain implants, an actual space presence and AI that were not fake & racist, we could start the Cyberpunk Age vibe good.
    , @Alden
    We're now the 5th largest economy in the entire world. Our huge welfare population supports Walmart and 99 cent stores multi billion profits. 15 welfare recipients in a 2 bedroom apartment can pay as much rent as one Dr. So it's all good.
  69. @Hypnotoad666
    In the plaza right next to the "Urban Light" installation is a Jeff Koons piece (which sold for $25 million) called "Balloon Monkey." http://lacmaonfire.blogspot.com/2017/12/koons-monkey-business-at-lacma.html

    I know that sometimes "a cigar is just a cigar." But I still feel this sculpture should come with some sort of trigger warning.

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mNDiOph54I0/WjcXiPvE6vI/AAAAAAAAGAA/vg-sKvlrHsMfPw7o4pt_pzBTXO2TeHIGwCLcBGAs/s1600/Back.jpg

    But I still feel this sculpture should come with some sort of trigger warning.

    C’mon, no one’s balls hang up.

  70. @International Jew
    Just don't wander even one street away from the tourist district. The crime-and-disorder gradient is very steep there.

    Just don’t wander even one street away from the tourist district. The crime-and-disorder gradient is very steep there.

    My cousin lived in a nearby city. He told me it gets pretty bad once you get beyond the train depot, so try to avoid that.

    I was coming in on Amtrak.

  71. @Hypnotoad666
    In the plaza right next to the "Urban Light" installation is a Jeff Koons piece (which sold for $25 million) called "Balloon Monkey." http://lacmaonfire.blogspot.com/2017/12/koons-monkey-business-at-lacma.html

    I know that sometimes "a cigar is just a cigar." But I still feel this sculpture should come with some sort of trigger warning.

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mNDiOph54I0/WjcXiPvE6vI/AAAAAAAAGAA/vg-sKvlrHsMfPw7o4pt_pzBTXO2TeHIGwCLcBGAs/s1600/Back.jpg

    It would be fun to park Southern California’s notorious Dickmobile on this plaza. Does it still exist?


  72. @Anon
    Paul Bogard's book The End of Night includes an interesting history of how electricity has gradually done away with the starry night sky, from a number of different perspectives. In Paris and other cities, gas streetlights were not used when there was a gibbous or full moon.

    And there are modern studies that claim that less light is safer: occasional pools of bright light kill your night vision between lights. And people are more afraid in the dark, which ironically correlates with higher situational alertness and overall safer behavior.

    There is some controversy over this, but a scholar of sleep patterns analyzed diaries and letter from the US in that eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and pre electricity rural and small town people would wake up in the middle of the night and chat with their neighbors for an hour or two, then go back to sleep. Sundown was early.

    We’ve given up a lot for what we have.

  73. @International Jew
    They'd make a nice couple.

    Those girls don't look much like Jed Rosenfeld, hmm. Could Tiger Mom have gone outside the home in search of a more adaptive genome? Not that I can imagine how, from her point of view, there could possibly exist sperm superior to Jed's.

    My sense of the statistics tells me that 80% of Asian-Caucasians look Asian (like Tiger Mom’s older daughter) or Mulatto/Amerindian (like Tiger Mom’s younger daughter), 15% look exotic white, while 5% can actually pass.

    • Replies: @Alden
    How many asian Caucasian mixes do you know? I've known a lot all my life. Many look very caucasian, especially the girls with White fathers. Of course women can do a lot with hair and eye makeup. Others are obviously mixed. If one parent is N. European the kids look more European. Asian women seem to select only fair tallish White men because they know the kids will look more White
  74. @International Jew
    Just don't wander even one street away from the tourist district. The crime-and-disorder gradient is very steep there.

    When you walk toward the outskirts of the French Quarter, you start to see signs saying, “Caution. Walk in large groups.”

  75. @AnotherDad

    My guess is that the recent street light-centric movie La-La Land was inspired by this installation.
     
    Cut it out Steve, this is a fraud. California is gone.

    I was just down there this weekend to move another child #1 as she's moving from book, lab and occasional clinic learning to practicing on live humans (and learning her medical Spanish) this next year.

    As a kid growing up in the Midwest in the 60s, i'd expected to live in California some day. But it was given away to immigrants instead. I spent the weekend looking at brake lights on the "freeways" and the being depressed by the crowded, shoddy, dystopia that is our future.

    If we only had computer-brain implants, an actual space presence and AI that were not fake & racist, we could start the Cyberpunk Age vibe good.

  76. anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Buffalo Joe and International Jew,

    Fair game to cast aspersions on Jed since he currently seems to be embroiled in some type of sex shenanigan charges at Yale. (Another example of tenured male academics having excess fun at coeds expense?)

    Explains his attitude as depicted in the tiger mom book: he checked out from that marriage long ago

  77. @Dan Hayes
    Lot:

    According to R B Ginsburg Kav hired all females. Does that suggest that the solo individual pictured is sexually ambidextrous?

    No, it suggests that RB Ginsburg is wrong, can’t tell the difference, or maliciously pushing the Kav-as-sexual-predator libel.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  78. @Desiderius
    Guarantee you he’s as effeminate as Kav if not worse. If he ever makes it to the bench he’ll be torn to shreds by the women he pedestalizes and the feminism he hopes will win their hearts and minds.

    They hire 2 new clerks every year.

    Kav definitely didn’t only hire women, though he hired more female clerks than average.

    The young man pictured also clerked for Kav on the DC Circuit court.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    I was him (the Wheaton kid - I’ll call him a man when he learns how to carry himself) once. There is hope.

    At a time of rampant anti-male discrimination (especially white male), hiring more female clerks than average is gross negligence of Kav’s duties.

    My guess as to why Yale hated him so much and/or gave him so little backup is all the time he pissed away at RFK/Nationals Park. They knew they’d get away with it because they always do with that type.
  79. @International Jew
    If I thought there was even a 1% chance that Jed Rubinfeld reads iSteve, I would indeed have kept my comment to myself.

    I don’t know if Amy Chua is a regular, but would be surprised if she didn’t read several of Steve’s posts. Before she was Tiger Mom, she was writing some non-PC articles and books.

  80. Some residential areas are either using the attractive old lights or the city is buying new ones that on the outside at least are an exact copy of the old ones. Steve, aren’t you pleased that last Tuesday’s election for more affirmative action morons working as counselors coordinators consultants annaylists program directors, and other affirmative action fools in the LAUnified school district failed? Everyone is rejoicing. It was a real triumph for the long suffering proletarian tax slaves.

    It was a real scam. Every piece of real property in the entire county, not just in Los Angeles would be highly taxed to provide more minority female morons shuffling around the school district headquarters. So people who live in Compton, Inglewood, Pasadena, Culver City Beverly Hills and other towns with their own school districts have to be taxed and the money given to LAUnified. It was every piece of real estate, not just residential. More money down the rathole of LA Unified. As long as about 85 percent of the kids come from countries with average IQs in the low 80’s LA Unified will rank as 48, 49, on a scale of 1 to 50, 50 being the lowest. There’s just not enough Whites, Asians and “genius” blacks with IQs of 105 to make up for the barely above retarded Hispanics. I did my part, informing all my tenants that their rents would go up way above the usual rent increase and there might even be a one time fee as much as $200. I went to the library and post office and grabbed those register by mail cards and scrounged up 42 anti votes. Made sure they sent the vote by mail ballots in.

    Of course with the register by mail system, I could have filled out 50 or so registration forms under different names and voted by mail against the tax increase. But I didn’t, honest.

    Meanwhile, there is enormous caterwauling about the homeless. The morons who run the local government don’t understand that when property taxes go up rents go up to the point that tenants can’t afford a place to live any more. Homeowners often sell and leave the state.

  81. @ChrisZ
    Interesting and provocative comment, Abe. I can't say I've ever heard that "catchphrase" about modeling vs. acting; and I assume you're just exaggerating in the suggestion that Emma Stone and Gosling are "ugly people."

    But it occurs to me that part of what we appreciate as beauty in real people has to do with the animation of facial features (a winning smile, a twinkle in the eyes) or attitudes of posture or gesture (poise, graceful movment of the head and limbs): that is, characteristics of living.

    The beauty that can be conveyed through a static image--whether a modeling photo or a work of art--is undeniably special; but it's rare and, when you think about it, somewhat artificial. It's the beauty of a captured and preserved moment: maybe a species of beauty more attuned with death than with life.

    Movie stars frequently have charming personalities.

  82. @AnotherDad

    My guess is that the recent street light-centric movie La-La Land was inspired by this installation.
     
    Cut it out Steve, this is a fraud. California is gone.

    I was just down there this weekend to move another child #1 as she's moving from book, lab and occasional clinic learning to practicing on live humans (and learning her medical Spanish) this next year.

    As a kid growing up in the Midwest in the 60s, i'd expected to live in California some day. But it was given away to immigrants instead. I spent the weekend looking at brake lights on the "freeways" and the being depressed by the crowded, shoddy, dystopia that is our future.

    We’re now the 5th largest economy in the entire world. Our huge welfare population supports Walmart and 99 cent stores multi billion profits. 15 welfare recipients in a 2 bedroom apartment can pay as much rent as one Dr. So it’s all good.

  83. @PhysicistDave
    Abe wrote:

    In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively.
     
    I wouldn't rate her that high.

    Except she can actually act. I believed her in La La Land.

    This is good news for all of us who do not look like Robert Redford or Tom Cruise (or even Ryan Gosling).

    The bad news is that even in old age Robert Redford projects a personality on screen that most of us do not have: I still remember in Winter Soldier where he stole every scene he was in from the younger actors.

    This "star quality" thing is real, and it's not just good looks: it goes back to Bogie, Jimmy Stewart, Kate Hepburn, etc.

    I’ve never been able to stand Stewart or Hepburn. The best old time actor was Ray Milland, because he was a real actor who played different parts. John Wayne, Gable, Stewart just played themselves over and over and over again. It’s weird how I loathe Hepburn. She was beautiful with the looks I admire most. But she just seemed to be such an arrogant witch with that phony drama school voice. And then I found out she was a liberal lesbian from a communist ultra wealthy background. You can always tell a liberal woman by their arrogance. And she was the epitome of arrogant witch.

    Stewart was just a stuttering nerd. Reminded me of Woody Allen yuck!

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s weird how I loathe Hepburn. She was beautiful with the looks I admire most. But she just seemed to be such an arrogant witch with that phony drama school voice. And then I found out she was a liberal lesbian from a communist ultra wealthy background. You can always tell a liberal woman by their arrogance. And she was the epitome of arrogant witch.
     
    I never thought (Katharine) Hepburn was attractive. Audrey yes, Kate no way. But she does have that elusive screen presence.
  84. @JimB
    My sense of the statistics tells me that 80% of Asian-Caucasians look Asian (like Tiger Mom's older daughter) or Mulatto/Amerindian (like Tiger Mom's younger daughter), 15% look exotic white, while 5% can actually pass.

    How many asian Caucasian mixes do you know? I’ve known a lot all my life. Many look very caucasian, especially the girls with White fathers. Of course women can do a lot with hair and eye makeup. Others are obviously mixed. If one parent is N. European the kids look more European. Asian women seem to select only fair tallish White men because they know the kids will look more White

    • Replies: @JimB
    More than you. Way, way, more than you.
  85. @Abe
    I have nothing useful to say at this hour except- wow! that shot of Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling brings to mind the catchphrase that acting really is modeling for ugly people. Sorry, just a random thought from other threads that has been stuck in my head, but hasn’t anyone else noticed that, objectively and aside from the reflected charisma of being on the silver screen, most really big movie stars aren’t really that beautiful/handsome? In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively. Sure there have been some true knockouts who’ve made it big (in term of undisputed 10’s I’d pick in their prime Charlize Theron, Sharon Stone, Kelly LeBrock, maybe Angelina Jolie) but this is almost always the rare case of a model who stoops to acting and surprises people by actually having the chops for it, and not someone who has worked their way up from high school productions of OUR TOWN to dinner theater productions, etc.

    You know who’s really beautiful? Amy Adams. Her face is just perfect. So is, was, Michelle Pfieffer. For some reason, a lot of men don’t think Nicole Kidman is attractive. But objectively,, she is just about perfect from ankles to the top of her head.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Pfeiffer is very underrated IMO.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    a lot of men don’t think Nicole Kidman is attractive

    Nicole Kidman is beautiful but very cold looking. Doesn't seem like much fun.
  86. @Brabantian
    Perhaps helpful to readers to have a wide view of the entire Urban Light creation in its setting
    https://i.ibb.co/XJ8wKM7/urban-light-los-angeles-county-museum-of-art.jpg

    Great shot. In day time it’s just a lot of poles, but at night it’s a womderland. Another wonderful sight is the lawn in front of the Mormon Temple on Santa Monica Blvd. at night in December. It’s a huge several acre lawn with widely spaced smallish trees. And in December they cover the trees with Christmas lights. Stupendous.

  87. @Harry Baldwin
    This is a good example of modern sculpture/installation art that people like. Another would be Cloud Gate, AKA "the Bean," in Chicago's Millennium Park, beneath which every couple wants to have their picture taken in the reflection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Gate

    There is also installation art that people hate, most famously Richard Serra's hideous "Tilted Arc," a wall of ugly, rusty steel that bisected Foley Federal Plaza in Manhattan from 1981 until 1989, when it was removed due to popular demand. It seemed to express the sculptor's hostility and contempt for any aesthetic standard as well as for the people who would have to look at it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilted_Arc

    Is that big Picasso sculpture still in the Chicago civic center?

  88. @LittleNano
    What fascinates me about LA is the well disguised rig derricks. The lengths one has to go to for the NIMBY types.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/cardiff-oil-tower-synagogue

    Oh, thanks for mentioning them and posting pictures. I love the real ones, just nodding away making money, one of the reasons we are the 5th largest economy in the world.

  89. @Mr. Grey
    Hedy Lamarr

    Vivien Leigh, Gene Tierney and all those dark haired fair skinned beauties with perfect faces.

  90. @Dan Hayes
    Lot:

    According to R B Ginsburg Kav hired all females. Does that suggest that the solo individual pictured is sexually ambidextrous?

    IIRC, Kav ONLY hired female law clerks while on the DC Circuit bench. IDK his practice on the USSC.

  91. @Dan Hayes
    Lot:

    According to R B Ginsburg Kav hired all females. Does that suggest that the solo individual pictured is sexually ambidextrous?

    Someone has posted better info–or memory–that I do regarding Kav clerks. Apologies for misinformation..

  92. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    I've never been able to stand Stewart or Hepburn. The best old time actor was Ray Milland, because he was a real actor who played different parts. John Wayne, Gable, Stewart just played themselves over and over and over again. It's weird how I loathe Hepburn. She was beautiful with the looks I admire most. But she just seemed to be such an arrogant witch with that phony drama school voice. And then I found out she was a liberal lesbian from a communist ultra wealthy background. You can always tell a liberal woman by their arrogance. And she was the epitome of arrogant witch.

    Stewart was just a stuttering nerd. Reminded me of Woody Allen yuck!

    It’s weird how I loathe Hepburn. She was beautiful with the looks I admire most. But she just seemed to be such an arrogant witch with that phony drama school voice. And then I found out she was a liberal lesbian from a communist ultra wealthy background. You can always tell a liberal woman by their arrogance. And she was the epitome of arrogant witch.

    I never thought (Katharine) Hepburn was attractive. Audrey yes, Kate no way. But she does have that elusive screen presence.

  93. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    You know who's really beautiful? Amy Adams. Her face is just perfect. So is, was, Michelle Pfieffer. For some reason, a lot of men don't think Nicole Kidman is attractive. But objectively,, she is just about perfect from ankles to the top of her head.

    Pfeiffer is very underrated IMO.

  94. @Lot
    They hire 2 new clerks every year.

    Kav definitely didn’t only hire women, though he hired more female clerks than average.

    The young man pictured also clerked for Kav on the DC Circuit court.

    I was him (the Wheaton kid – I’ll call him a man when he learns how to carry himself) once. There is hope.

    At a time of rampant anti-male discrimination (especially white male), hiring more female clerks than average is gross negligence of Kav’s duties.

    My guess as to why Yale hated him so much and/or gave him so little backup is all the time he pissed away at RFK/Nationals Park. They knew they’d get away with it because they always do with that type.

  95. @ChrisZ
    Interesting and provocative comment, Abe. I can't say I've ever heard that "catchphrase" about modeling vs. acting; and I assume you're just exaggerating in the suggestion that Emma Stone and Gosling are "ugly people."

    But it occurs to me that part of what we appreciate as beauty in real people has to do with the animation of facial features (a winning smile, a twinkle in the eyes) or attitudes of posture or gesture (poise, graceful movment of the head and limbs): that is, characteristics of living.

    The beauty that can be conveyed through a static image--whether a modeling photo or a work of art--is undeniably special; but it's rare and, when you think about it, somewhat artificial. It's the beauty of a captured and preserved moment: maybe a species of beauty more attuned with death than with life.

    That last bit at the end there is quite profound.

    There is some quote by a great author that his best thoughts are dead by the time they reach the page, or something along those lines. Your insight cast’s his in an entirely different light.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    Thanks Des.
  96. @Alden
    You know who's really beautiful? Amy Adams. Her face is just perfect. So is, was, Michelle Pfieffer. For some reason, a lot of men don't think Nicole Kidman is attractive. But objectively,, she is just about perfect from ankles to the top of her head.

    a lot of men don’t think Nicole Kidman is attractive

    Nicole Kidman is beautiful but very cold looking. Doesn’t seem like much fun.

    • Replies: @Anonymouser
    Nicole kidman is ice cold.
  97. @Harry Baldwin
    This is a good example of modern sculpture/installation art that people like. Another would be Cloud Gate, AKA "the Bean," in Chicago's Millennium Park, beneath which every couple wants to have their picture taken in the reflection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Gate

    There is also installation art that people hate, most famously Richard Serra's hideous "Tilted Arc," a wall of ugly, rusty steel that bisected Foley Federal Plaza in Manhattan from 1981 until 1989, when it was removed due to popular demand. It seemed to express the sculptor's hostility and contempt for any aesthetic standard as well as for the people who would have to look at it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilted_Arc

    The Man / Woman woman sculpture marring the facade of the beautiful Penn Station in Baltimore has to rank as one of the most spiteful pieces of public art ever. Artist Jonathan Borofsky
    was paid $10,000 by the citizens of Baltimore to erect this visual loogey:

    https://www.trbimg.com/img-54d3eba1/turbine/bcp-the-muchhated-malefemale-statue-at-penn-st-002/950/950×534

    It got only one positive response: an article in the City Paper by a cross-dressing prostitute who liked the sculpture because it was a big “fuck you” to heterosexual suburbanites.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    We have this POS called Cupid's Garden here in the Peoples' Republic. I drove by it one day with my 3 year old and she said, "Look, Dad. Broken!"

    https://www.rosslynva.org/_files/images/cupidgarden.jpg
  98. @Alden
    How many asian Caucasian mixes do you know? I've known a lot all my life. Many look very caucasian, especially the girls with White fathers. Of course women can do a lot with hair and eye makeup. Others are obviously mixed. If one parent is N. European the kids look more European. Asian women seem to select only fair tallish White men because they know the kids will look more White

    More than you. Way, way, more than you.

  99. @iffen
    They’re pretty useless at illuminating the sidewalk because they shine the majority of their light up.

    Difficult choice.

    Do we copy our evil ancestors and produce light pollution injuring the night sky, or do we allow our evil contemporaries to shine the light on the sidewalks thereby illuminating the identifying features of the muggers.

    or do we allow our evil contemporaries to shine the light on the sidewalks thereby illuminating the identifying features of the muggers.

    Which, it is vital to note, would be racist.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Which, it is vital to note, would be racist.

    A minute crack in The Coalition.

    Choose light pollution of the night sky or be racist.
  100. @Pericles

    or do we allow our evil contemporaries to shine the light on the sidewalks thereby illuminating the identifying features of the muggers.

     

    Which, it is vital to note, would be racist.

    Which, it is vital to note, would be racist.

    A minute crack in The Coalition.

    Choose light pollution of the night sky or be racist.

  101. @Abe
    I have nothing useful to say at this hour except- wow! that shot of Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling brings to mind the catchphrase that acting really is modeling for ugly people. Sorry, just a random thought from other threads that has been stuck in my head, but hasn’t anyone else noticed that, objectively and aside from the reflected charisma of being on the silver screen, most really big movie stars aren’t really that beautiful/handsome? In terms of female pulchritude I’d say Emma ‘frog-face’ Stone is only in the 7-8 range objectively. Sure there have been some true knockouts who’ve made it big (in term of undisputed 10’s I’d pick in their prime Charlize Theron, Sharon Stone, Kelly LeBrock, maybe Angelina Jolie) but this is almost always the rare case of a model who stoops to acting and surprises people by actually having the chops for it, and not someone who has worked their way up from high school productions of OUR TOWN to dinner theater productions, etc.

    1) You’re nuts about Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling.

    2) But fundamentally, you’re right. I’ve noticed that more and more recently, actresses that get big roles aren’t necessarily the best looking ones. My theory was that it had something to do with straight guy vs gay guy casting. Some movies are obviously made by straight dudes, and others not so much. Example: Bryan Singer makes a Superman movie and Kate Bosworth is Lois Lane. She wears sensible business clothes. Zack Snyder makes a Superman movie and Amy Adams is Lois Lane. She splashes around in a bath tub for reasons I’m sure had something to do with the plot.

  102. @anonymous
    Crips and Bloods are evidently big Chris Burden fans too:

    Shoot (1971)

    Artwork description & Analysis: Shoot is the piece for which Burden is infamously known. He asked a friend to shoot him with a .22 rifle from a distance of 15 feet. The bullet was originally supposed to nick the side of Burden's arm, but the shooter was slightly off target and the bullet went through the arm instead. This piece presented exactly what happens when a person is shot so that the audience could experience it in person, and not just in a detached setting such as watching the television while sitting comfortably on the couch. The viewer can only recoil in shock at realizing that an actual person was just shot in front of them. In describing the piece, Burden stated that "it was really disgusting, and there was a smoking hole in my arm." This work also poses questions about the nature of power and following orders, a theme especially indicated by the imperative of the title Shoot, itself. To what extent are we required to follow orders? What are the boundaries between rules and responsibility to fellow human beings? Burden's work was also a way of re-sensitizing people to the violence that had become less and less shocking due to its prevalence in the news. Finally, in addition to challenging the art world's traditional preference for the "fine art" of painting, for example, what Burden really seemed to be challenging was himself and his own dedication to his art. One cannot argue that someone who so consistently put himself in physical and mortal danger for his work was not completely dedicated to his art: in fact, Burden said that one of the reasons he performed Shoot was so that he would be taken seriously as an artist.

    .22 rifle and bullet - N/A

    https://www.theartstory.org/artist-burden-chris.htm
     

    Wasn’t there a Sopranos episode where an aspiring rapper was claiming that one needed to be wounded in a shooting to have any chance at a career in that musical genre? And one of Tony’s “hit men” went up to the guy and explained how that “could be arranged”?

  103. @Desiderius
    That last bit at the end there is quite profound.

    There is some quote by a great author that his best thoughts are dead by the time they reach the page, or something along those lines. Your insight cast’s his in an entirely different light.

    Thanks Des.

  104. @Craig Nelsen
    The Man / Woman woman sculpture marring the facade of the beautiful Penn Station in Baltimore has to rank as one of the most spiteful pieces of public art ever. Artist Jonathan Borofsky
    was paid $10,000 by the citizens of Baltimore to erect this visual loogey:

    https://www.trbimg.com/img-54d3eba1/turbine/bcp-the-muchhated-malefemale-statue-at-penn-st-002/950/950x534

    It got only one positive response: an article in the City Paper by a cross-dressing prostitute who liked the sculpture because it was a big "fuck you" to heterosexual suburbanites.

    We have this POS called Cupid’s Garden here in the Peoples’ Republic. I drove by it one day with my 3 year old and she said, “Look, Dad. Broken!”

  105. @International Jew
    They'd make a nice couple.

    Those girls don't look much like Jed Rosenfeld, hmm. Could Tiger Mom have gone outside the home in search of a more adaptive genome? Not that I can imagine how, from her point of view, there could possibly exist sperm superior to Jed's.

    Rubinfeld not Rosenfeld. Also not very nice of you.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Yes, I noticed my mistake, alas too late to edit it.
    You can go ahead and report this to the ADL as a hate-crime.
  106. @Dan Hayes
    Buffalo Joe and International Jew,

    Fair game to cast aspersions on Jed since he currently seems to be embroiled in some type of sex shenanigan charges at Yale. (Another example of tenured male academics having excess fun at coeds expense?)

    Nah, the details of the “shenanigans” even if 100 % true, are nothing but hysteria.

  107. Kasanovitch:

    Well this type of “hysteria” can quite easily destroy Mr Chua’s academic career as well as that of Mrs Chua thru collateral damage! And chalk it all up as POETIC JUSTICE!

  108. That looks like a good way to fight depression, a good place to go when you get discouraged and it’s too late for golf.

  109. @Lot
    Tiger Mom’s eldest daughter hired for a clerkship by Kav.

    https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/tiger_sisters1a.jpg

    His other clerk is an evangelical who went to Wheaton College and Harvard Law.

    https://today.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/20170505CommencementProfiles_LGranger002web-1800x1200.jpg

    Lot:

    The Chua maidens’ portrait bears an unsettling and uncanny resemblance to the infamous beach portrait of Nicole Brown Simpson’s predatory sisters.

  110. Obsolete street lamps are, presumably, a dime a dozen.

    They’re pretty useless at illuminating the sidewalk because they shine the majority of their light up.

    But as emblems of downtown glamor, as reminders of how our ancestors had style, they can’t be beat.

    Parisians had style too, when they were French.

    I made sure to grab somebody off the street and have them take a picture of my wife and me one evening in this spot on the Pont Alexandre III Bridge:

  111. @Kaganovitch
    Rubinfeld not Rosenfeld. Also not very nice of you.

    Yes, I noticed my mistake, alas too late to edit it.
    You can go ahead and report this to the ADL as a hate-crime.

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    Nah, Rubinfeld is a stale pale male , so hate crimes don't really apply. Still not very nice of you.
  112. @Harry Baldwin
    a lot of men don’t think Nicole Kidman is attractive

    Nicole Kidman is beautiful but very cold looking. Doesn't seem like much fun.

    Nicole kidman is ice cold.

  113. @Anon
    Paul Bogard's book The End of Night includes an interesting history of how electricity has gradually done away with the starry night sky, from a number of different perspectives. In Paris and other cities, gas streetlights were not used when there was a gibbous or full moon.

    And there are modern studies that claim that less light is safer: occasional pools of bright light kill your night vision between lights. And people are more afraid in the dark, which ironically correlates with higher situational alertness and overall safer behavior.

    There is some controversy over this, but a scholar of sleep patterns analyzed diaries and letter from the US in that eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and pre electricity rural and small town people would wake up in the middle of the night and chat with their neighbors for an hour or two, then go back to sleep. Sundown was early.

    ‘diaries and letter from the US in that eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and pre electricity rural and small town people would wake up in the middle of the night and chat with their neighbors for an hour or two, then go back to sleep. Sundown was early.’

    This is actually an older thing more generally. Pre electricity fires were expensive so you would go to sleep when it got dark and bot veing able to sleep the whole way through you qould wake up five hours later for a couple of hpurs and then go back to bed. It was a way for people to socialise and also a way for people to be introspective when privacy was hard to come by. Shakespeare refered to it as your first and second sleep.

  114. @International Jew
    Yes, I noticed my mistake, alas too late to edit it.
    You can go ahead and report this to the ADL as a hate-crime.

    Nah, Rubinfeld is a stale pale male , so hate crimes don’t really apply. Still not very nice of you.

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