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From New York Times, running an AP story:

Relatives Demand Answers in Fatal Minnesota Police Shooting
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS JULY 17, 2017, 4:22 P.M. E.D.T.

MINNEAPOLIS — Relatives and neighbors of an Australian woman who was fatally shot by Minneapolis police over the weekend demanded answers Monday about her death, with one calling the shooting of the meditation teacher and bride-to-be “an execution.”

Details about what led to the shooting remained unclear, with authorities saying only that officers were responding to a 911 call about a possible assault when she was killed.

The woman’s family members released a statement Monday through Australia’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, saying they “are trying to come to terms with this tragedy and to understand why this has happened.”

Minneapolis authorities have not released the woman’s name. The Star Tribune (http://strib.mn/2tZtSB2 ) identified her as Justine Damond, 40, from Sydney, Australia. The newspaper reported that she was engaged to be married and had already taken her fiance’s last name. Her maiden name was Justine Ruszczyk.

The Bureau of Criminal Apprehension released a statement Sunday saying two Minneapolis officers responded to the call late Saturday. At some point, an officer fired a gun, hitting Damond.

So, pretty ho-hum …

If you keep reading, you’ll eventually get to the interesting stuff in the story. But it’s just Bad Journalism to not bore your readers to death upfront so that they stop reading before anything subversive of The Narrative is revealed.

In contrast, the deplorable Daily Mail tries to interest its readers in stories by putting interesting facts and pictures near the top of its story:

Australian woman, 40, dead through the DOOR of his squad car while his bodycam was off after she called 911 over ‘home intruder’

Justine Damond was shot dead by police after calling 911 on Saturday night

She had reportedly been speaking to police through the driver’s side window

Damond was shot by officer sitting in the passenger seat through driver door

Mohamed Noor has been named as the officer who shot 40-year-old Australian

His lawyer Tom Plunkett confirmed he fired his weapon on Saturday night

City is steel reeling from the shooting death by cop of Philando Castille in 2016

She moved to Minnesota to marry ‘rockstar love of her life’, Don Damond, 50

Noor has two open complaints against him from 2017 and one from 2016

By Hannah Moore and Josh Hanrahan For Daily Mail Australia
PUBLISHED: 12:16 EDT, 17 July 2017

Mohammed Noor has been an officer for two years and was the first Somali-American to serve in his precinct

The police officer who shot and killed an unarmed Australian woman in mysterious circumstances after she called 911 to report a disturbance behind her upscale Minneapolis home has been identified.

Mohamed Noor, who joined the department in March 2015, reached over and shot Justine Damond, 40, multiple times from the passenger seat of his squad car while she spoke to his colleague on the drivers side in a back alley.

Both officer’s bodycams were off and the squad car camera not recording when Damond – who was in her pajamas – was killed at around 11.30pm on Saturday, just a month before she was due to marry.

The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) – the state agency investigating the shooting – has so far kept tight-lipped on the circumstances that led to the death of the yoga and meditation teacher.

Screenshot 2017-07-17 16.05.31They have admitted that no weapons were recovered from the scene and according to the Star Tribune witnesses to the shooting have described Diamond approaching the police cruiser in the alley behind her house.

She was holding her cell phone and talking to an officer on the drivers side before she was shot.

The only concrete statement the BCA has made so far is to confirm that ‘At one point an officer fired their weapon, fatally striking a woman’.

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Community leader: Officer Noor (center) met with Minneapolis Mayor Betsy Hodges (not pictured) in 2016 where she praised him for joining the police force …

Pride: This picture dates from 2015 and shows Officer Noor being inducted into the Somali American Police Association

Something must be done about the menace of Right-Side-Up Journalism in which sleazy newspapers put interesting facts near the top of their stories, not the bottom as is respectable.

P.S., commenter Reiner Tor observes:

It’s going to be a long hot summer, whites are going to riot all over the country. They will be looting shopping centers and murdering each other in record numbers. But that’s just natural when protesting injustice.

 
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  1. It’s going to be a hot summer, whites are going to riot all over the country. They will be looting shopping centers and murdering each other in record numbers. But that’s just natural when protesting injustice.

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    • Replies: @neutral
    You may be joking, but I am seriously not joking when I say that the only way whites can ever get themselves out of the hole they are in is if they start rioting.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Yes, let's all exercise extreme caution when attending farmers markets, air shows and renaissance fairs! If you need a safe space, find a rap concert or midnight basketball game.
    , @Alden
    As usual the Daily Mail publishes more about is going on in America than all our anti White PC newspapers.

    EXCLUSIVE: Killer cop says he shot Justine Damond because he was 'startled' by her [tr]


    ‎7‎/‎19‎/‎2017‎ ‎12‎:‎39‎:‎11‎ ‎PM · by C19fan · 11 replies
    UK Daily Mail ^ | July 19, 2017 | Shekhar Bhatia

    Killer policeman Mohamed Noor has said he was 'startled' by his victim Justine Damond seconds before he opened fire. The cop has told friends about why he gunned down the bride-to-be, 40, in his first account of what happened Saturday night. DailyMail.com has spoken to those friends to reveal for the first time his account of what happened that night.
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  2. utu says:

    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity. The fact that the guy is black and immigrant is of no importance. However the iSteve commentariat may see him as a positive example of assimilation and acculturation into American culture and its police subculture, in particular.

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    • Replies: @El Dato

    poor training, irresponsibility and impunity
     
    What transpires about impunity remains to be seen, however, the subject matter of "poor training and irresponsibility" suspiciously seems to collapse to "incompetence".

    This sound like a ghetto shooting astonishingly coming out of a Blue Car.

    Hey, anyone check the trunk for TEC-9ers?

    , @syonredux

    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity. The fact that the guy is black and immigrant is of no importance.
     
    Actually, the fact that the cop was Somali is quite important. You see, one of the reasons why so many American cops are poorly trained is because of disparate impact. Make standards too high, and you won't get enough Black (let alone Somali) cops.
    , @Clyde
    You iconoclast and sub-genius!
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    As soon as I heard this story on NPR this afternoon I made a quiet little bet with myself that this criminally incompetent cop was probably a "minority". I could have made this call just based on a statistical analysis of the last score or so of unjustified cop shootings that made the national MSM.

    But I also did criminal justice system (CJS) policy analysis, research, and teaching for about fifteen years during my long and checkered professional career. It is an unmentionable but well known fact in the CJS community - one vehemently ignored by the large PC/SJW contingent within that community - that levels of corruption and ineptitude, often homicidal corruption and ineptitude, are rife within affirmative action minority hires, whether its the police, prison guards, POs, bailiffs, whatever.

    More often than not minority hires in the CJS system have a criminal background that is discounted in the interests of "diversity". They are usually less intelligent, less able to deal with stress and tense situations, more impulse driven, and far more likely to resort to violence in situations involving potential conflict, than their middle class, White counterparts. These stories are going to be getting more common. Get used to it.
    , @Dr. X
    Well, obviously, this is yet another example of why only cops should have guns, and why diversity is our greatest strength.

    /snark
    , @Tim Howells

    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity.
     
    You've got to be kidding. What possible kind of training could have helped? This has to be a psychotic episode of some kind imo. A quick DuckDuckGo search turned up:

    Psychoses, PTSD, and depression in Somali refugees in Minnesota
    Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology
    June 2011, Volume 46, Issue 6, pp 481–493
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00127-010-0216-0

    "Initial clinical observation of Somali patients seen at a busy inner-city community clinic (CUHCC) suggested that, in addition to the expected pictures of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and depression previously seen in the clinic’s Southeast Asian refugee population from 1980 to 2000, there was an unusually high number of young Somali men presenting with acute psychotic disturbances."

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  3. Damond was shot by officer sitting in the passenger seat through driver door

    I wonder who he was trying to kill, the unfortunate Mrs. Damand, or his partner? He couldn’t have been too fond of his partner in any case, if he shot across his body like that.

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    No kidding.
    , @mobi

    I wonder who he was trying to kill, the unfortunate Mrs. Damand, or his partner? He couldn’t have been too fond of his partner in any case, if he shot across his body like that.
     
    'Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.'

    Also, Hell is where the police are Somalis.

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  4. I think the pig (I’m assuming that is doubly offensive in his case) will have more Pokémon points since she had blonde hair and came from an English speaking country.

    Therefore, this unfortunate gun going off incident will be memory holed, beginning, now!

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    This chmp out would not have taken place if the woman was dark haired and average height. The Somali had connections and political pull to get on the police force. My take is this will be in the news for a while.
    , @Percy Gryce
    Actually it was a prominent story on the news on NPR's Morning Edition this morning. It might actually have some legs:

    http://www.npr.org/2017/07/18/537861230/minneapolis-officers-failed-to-turn-on-body-cameras-before-fatal-shooting
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  5. Anonym says:

    It’s kind of funny how the ethnic Swedish in high proportion bastion of Swedish-style idiocy, “Minnesota nice”, put this Somali into the police force. “Ja, sure, you betcha!” Do the Swedes really have average IQ of 100 or so? I know they seem to have nice societies (pre-immigrant) and industry of the like you’d expect of a similar white population, but damned if their pathological altruism and will to want to believe in the good of other people despite all evidence to the contrary drags down their IQ to somewhere below that of Somalia.

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    • Replies: @Detective Club
    The Swedes? Book Smarts : Check that box.
    https://youtu.be/e0_29eCZF_M
    Street Smarts : Don't check that box.
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  6. @International Jew

    Damond was shot by officer sitting in the passenger seat through driver door
     
    I wonder who he was trying to kill, the unfortunate Mrs. Damand, or his partner? He couldn't have been too fond of his partner in any case, if he shot across his body like that.

    No kidding.

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  7. TangoMan says:

    I think that there might be a real story here regarding how this Somali qualified to be on the police force. I read that his presence was a big deal with the mayor and other politicians. Were strings pulled, was he the most qualified candidate?

    How many White women have to be executed by Somalis with a badge to make PC and virtue signaling high cost events for politicians and liberals?

    I wonder if this is another instance of sudden jihad syndrome. Pilots have been known to crash planes on purpose, so why would cops be immune from SJS?

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    Were strings pulled, was he the most qualified candidate?
     
    He has a Business Administration degree from Augsburg College, I'm willing to assume he wasn't held to the same academic standards as other Augsburg students either. Minneapolis has a Somali-American Police Association. They were desperate for anyone from the "East African Immigrant Community" to make it as a cop and overlooked any red flags that came up during his career so far.

    http://somaliamericanpa.org/
    , @Lurker

    How many White women have to be executed by Somalis with a badge to make PC and virtue signaling high cost events for politicians and liberals?
     
    All of them. And it still won't be enough.
    , @Escher
    The poor Australian lady was probably in violation of the new Sharia dress code in Minneapolis.
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  8. My assumption is that the two officers were talking with the lady on the phone, she walked up to them from behind and the shooter was startled.
    Horrible tragedy, but black lives matter.

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    Yeah, go ahead and say it! Black Lives Matter a hell of a goddam lot!
    https://youtu.be/LGEhZMaH7Lc
    Meanwhile, White Lives are not worth a Hill of Beans in This Crazy World!
    , @Alden
    No, she was standing in front of the drivers door speaking with the driver and both officers knew she was the person who made the call. Both officers saw her clearly and there was no reason to suspect she was armed or the suspect.
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  9. El Dato says:

    That’s some Noorasthenic struggle coming down the pipe.

    Seriously expecting cops to plant IEDs next.

    I was actually fearing this kind of thing would become routine as servicemen rendered a bit neurologically nervous by the shake-and-bake of the Wars for Muh Freedoms were being enrolled in police forces or becoming mall patrollers.

    But actually….

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    In the cop's defense, the spate of recent out-of-the-blue cop shootings abetted by the media, Democrats and BLM probably led him to assume the worst. Not everything's about race. Funny how the Aussies left this out to focus on the gun control angle. Then again, to non-Americans, it's all about gun control, even when the shooter is a cop.
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  10. El Dato says:
    @utu
    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity. The fact that the guy is black and immigrant is of no importance. However the iSteve commentariat may see him as a positive example of assimilation and acculturation into American culture and its police subculture, in particular.

    poor training, irresponsibility and impunity

    What transpires about impunity remains to be seen, however, the subject matter of “poor training and irresponsibility” suspiciously seems to collapse to “incompetence”.

    This sound like a ghetto shooting astonishingly coming out of a Blue Car.

    Hey, anyone check the trunk for TEC-9ers?

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  11. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Reposting since Steve decided this OT story had critical mass.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/shooting-death-of-justine-damond-in-minneapolis-sparks-calls-for-federal-investigation/news-story/2d2486888c0c6d8fa1ca3d8f4bc7df91

    It’s pretty funny to see news.com.au’s take on this. On the one hand they want to blame it on America’s gun culture and trigger-happy police (BLM yo!). On the other hand, they can’t help but report that it was a police officer with only two years experience on the force from Somalia, (a skinny in Aussie parlance,) that shot her. They tend to take the Australian side in reporting when events happen overseas, even when obviously criminals and deserve what’s happening to them. (E.g. Schapelle Corby – the MSM here are strangely bigoted like that. I guess the US media did the same with Michael Fay, if you remember him.) So there is a level of truth in reporting so far that is unlike how they normally are (e.g. only showing 12 year old Trayvon). In this case they are conflicted.

    http://www.rsdb.org/race/somalians

    There is a new article about Trump every day on news.com.au and about 99/100 articles are anti-Trump. And maybe that 1/100 article was when he bombed Syria. Murdoch’s news.com.au is a smidgen to the right of Huffpo, but the commentors are mostly /ourguys.

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    What I find interesting about this case is that you have a Muslim cop from a Stone Age culture who is confronted by an infidel woman in her pajamas. In other words, she wasn't dressed appropriately based on his cultural expectations. Maybe, just maybe, he executed her based on that. It's certainly worth looking into -- although, knowing the Minnesotans, her expectation to live a long and healthy life takes a backseat to Officer Noor's "muh culture." So I don't fancy her chances for justice.
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  12. syonredux says:
    @utu
    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity. The fact that the guy is black and immigrant is of no importance. However the iSteve commentariat may see him as a positive example of assimilation and acculturation into American culture and its police subculture, in particular.

    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity. The fact that the guy is black and immigrant is of no importance.

    Actually, the fact that the cop was Somali is quite important. You see, one of the reasons why so many American cops are poorly trained is because of disparate impact. Make standards too high, and you won’t get enough Black (let alone Somali) cops.

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  13. Clyde says:

    The Somali was blinded by her light. The light coming from a tall blond white woman. So he reverted to sudden jihad syndrome. _______ And aside from this case, just saying that Somalis are most useless immigrants ever. It is criminal that we still allow Somali refugees in. By now they must be bringing in useless family under our current immigration rules. In Europe they now get Congolese who are as cursed, or worse, than Somalians.
    Talk about being born under a bad sign.

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  14. Arclight says:

    It seems that taking several high profile cases together – this one, Castile, Tamir Rice – jittery officers ended up blowing away citizens in gross overreactions to any perceived threat. It seems that police departments might have a problem with a low bar to join the force in order to keep the number of officers on the street at the appropriate level. No doubt post-Ferguson this has intensified.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Tamir Rice pointed his real looking toy pistol at the police. How many rounds should he be allowed to fire before the police confirm its an actual pistol?

    The fact that Castile, gang member who maybe at one time held a CCW in another county and couldn't follow directions while smoking weed with his kid in the car, is such a cause celebre among libertarians only underlines how they should be kept away from the actual levers of power.

    Just gonna throw it out here but maybe policing ain't like Maybury RFD.

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  15. I’d wait to see what happened. I’m interested in what the guy in the driver’s seat has to say. What was the guy thinking when he fired? I don’t think it was “ALLAHU AKBAR!”, or he would have found a more public target.

    I don’t want to commit the big error of the left and speak before the facts are known here.

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  16. J1234 says:

    The left will, of course, make this: “How does it feel to have a member of your race shot by a member of another race?” But this case is, in a way, like the white cop/black perp cases because (as always) the legal particulars won’t matter to the left. Just like it didn’t with Michael Brown or any of the others. That would involve probing black incompetence or maladaptive behavior, and that’s something that can never be examined.

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  17. Somalians have been imported into European Christian nations in order to destroy them. Evil ruling class scum in the American Empire are pouring these Third World Somalians into the United States. REFUGEE OVERLOAD from Somalia introduces multicultural mayhem.

    Minnesota has been targeted for multicultural destruction by the evil scum at the US State Department. The US State Department is heavily involved in using REFUGEE OVERLOAD as a demographic weapon to attack mostly White states like Minnesota and New Hampshire.

    Al Franken was elected to the United States Senate with the votes of Somalians in Minnesota. REFUGEE OVERLOAD explains why Al Franken won.

    The Democrat Party is the party of Third Worlders. The Democrat Party is anti-White. It is to be expected that evil scum in the Democrat Party will push mass immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD.

    Why does the Republican Party allow the continuation of Somali importation into the United States? The reason is that almost all Republican Party politicians are bought and paid for whores of wealthy donors. These disgusting Republican whores don’t say nothing unless they clear it with their donors.

    Somalians in the United States should be deported immediately. The cost of that deportation should be paid for by wealthy Democrat Party donors like Tom Steyer, George Soros and Mark Zuckerberg.

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  18. Odd that she was shot through the door. Sounds like the gun went off accidentally. Good shot, though.

    Most likely all the known facts about this story are wrong. That is usually the case. I am sure more information will come out that will make more sense.

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    Odd that she was shot through the door. Sounds like the gun went off accidentally. Good shot, though.
     
    There are reports of multiple shots. Nothing is confirmed.

    Also, through the door could be "through the open car window". Journalists, who almost never concerned with details that concern mere mortals, even when not pushing a narrative, tend to re-write things along those lines.

    , @jay-w
    " .... Sounds like the gun went off accidentally. ..."

    For the millionth time, people:
    Guns do **NOT** go off "accidentally." Guns may go off unintentionally if some idiot has disregarded the most fundamental rule of gun safety and put his finger inside the trigger guard when he shouldn't have; but they never, never go off accidentally.

    , @Forbes
    Odd that the victim was shot at all.

    For the gun to be fired, killing the woman, the officer would have to take the gun out of his holster and point the gun in her direction. Nothing accidental about that. Also, not safe handling of a gun.
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  19. @El Dato
    That's some Noorasthenic struggle coming down the pipe.

    Seriously expecting cops to plant IEDs next.

    I was actually fearing this kind of thing would become routine as servicemen rendered a bit neurologically nervous by the shake-and-bake of the Wars for Muh Freedoms were being enrolled in police forces or becoming mall patrollers.

    But actually....

    In the cop’s defense, the spate of recent out-of-the-blue cop shootings abetted by the media, Democrats and BLM probably led him to assume the worst. Not everything’s about race. Funny how the Aussies left this out to focus on the gun control angle. Then again, to non-Americans, it’s all about gun control, even when the shooter is a cop.

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  20. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    If only we listened to Black Lives Matter, says Black Lives Matter.

    More likely, Noor, along with Janez, are duds who wouldn’t have been hired if not for Affirmative Action. I don’t expect BLM to connect those dots though.

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    It appears Brittany Cooper quickly switched gears to talking about R. Kelly after Mohammed Noor's name as the shooter was released. I don't think she is interested in responding to your questions about these obvious Affirmative Action hires killing people.
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  21. O'Really says:

    I’m not sure why the Times went to all the trouble of upside-down reporting. CNN.com went the more straightforward route of just completely leaving out any details of the shooter (even though the story was updated well after those facts were known).

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  22. Barnard says:

    The Minneapolis Star Tribune has been surprisingly up front about the details considering how hard they usually push The Narrative. They even reprinted Mark Dayton’s quote from the Castille shooting about how this would never happen to a white person.

    http://www.startribune.com/what-we-know-about-mohamed-noor-minneapolis-police-officer-who-fatally-shot-justine-damond/435018163/

    Based on what I have read so far, Half Canadian’s theory sounds plausible. She was on the phone with the dispatcher and approached the car, Noor was startled and just shot her. Total incompetence from an officer who never should have been admitted to the academy is the most likely answer. Justine Damond was sacrificed for diversity.

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    What on earth does this mean from the Star Tribune report?

    An evaluator sent to observe Noor interacting with his son concluded that he never raised his voice and that his "even keel and calm demeanor may have ultimately been responsible" for calming the agitated child down.
     
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  23. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Police Academy is sober compared to Police Diversity

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  24. Clyde says:
    @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I think the pig (I'm assuming that is doubly offensive in his case) will have more Pokémon points since she had blonde hair and came from an English speaking country.

    Therefore, this unfortunate gun going off incident will be memory holed, beginning, now!

    This chmp out would not have taken place if the woman was dark haired and average height. The Somali had connections and political pull to get on the police force. My take is this will be in the news for a while.

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  25. Anonym says:

    This story has to be one of the iSteveist stories of 2017.

    BLM – Check
    Somalis in Minnesota – Check
    Disparate impact in police hiring leading to hiring of incompetents – Check
    Dumbass virtue signalling Swedes – Check
    White on black crime – Check
    Offender was named Mohammed – Check
    MSM burying the lede – Check
    Standard delay in mentioning details of offender – Check

    OTOH it did not take place on a golf course.

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    • Replies: @AM

    OTOH it did not take place on a golf course.
     
    There are golf courses in Minnesota, so that's something. ;)
    , @Clyde

    Dumbass virtue signalling Swedes – Check
    Offender was named Mohammad ---Check
     
    Swedes and whites being the most culpable. They are only here because we allowed and brought them here. Put more blame on white crazies and profiteers from this whole refugee/immigration mess. You and your addiction to ethnic restaurants like that aut spectrum dope at George Mason Tyler Cowen
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    , @JimS
    Come on, look at all the boxes it didn't check:

    Sailer's Law of Female Journalism - nope
    Lack of white Americans competing in professional basketball - nope
    Georgia's aggression in the invasion of South Ossetia - nope
    Steroids (including many sub-topics: Andrew Sullivan, Tiger Woods, baseball, etc.) - nope
    Race as a partially inbred extended family - nope
    Rusty Staub's private life - nope
    Invade the world - nope
    Invite the world - ok, yeah
    In hock to the world - nope (been a long time for some of these posts)
    Black actor representation in Academy Awards - nope
    Lack of Hispanic actors or demand therefor - nope
    Affordable family formation - nope
    Adventuresses - nope (I don't think...)
    Silicon Valley Eugenics - nope
    Ownership of Los Angeles sports teams - nope
    World War G/T/?? - nope
    SPLC - nope
    Carlos Slim -nope
    Jared Diamond and race -nope
    Genius T Coates or Henry Louis Gates - nope
    Great White Defendant or other Bonfire reference - nope
    Indian (Native American) or genetic alcoholism - nope
    Kahneman trick questions - nope
    Interracial marriage rates - nope
    IQ map hoaxes - nope
    Closing "the gap" - maybe, for relaxing standards to hire the officer. We'll see.
    Israeli espionage - nope
    Who? Whom? - Ok, this is very likely
    Sports Stars' skin whitening - nope
    Gentrification - nope
    Prop 187 (1994) vs. 1992 for California going Democrat - nope
    Sailer vs. Freakonomics - nope
    Tiger Mothers - nope
    Social mobility and English/Norman names - nope
    San Fernando Valley private high schools - nope
    SAT and education overhauls (e.g. Common Core) - nope
    Bush/minority subprime lending - nope
    Mortgage meltdown in general - nope
    CIA connections of people in US - nope
    "Shallow state" - nope
    Republican campaign strategy - nope
    "Rotting in the fields" - nope
    Trolling Tyler Cowen - nope
    Punk or new wave rock (e.g. The Clash) - nope
    Hate hoaxes - nope
    Rape hoaxes - nope
    Gypsies - nope
    Consanguinity - nope (that we know of)
    White football players - nope
    Flight from white - nope
    Occam's Butterknife - nope
    PISA scores - nope
    The Man Who Would Be King - nope
    Iran's "War machine" (going way back) - nope
    Japan as a place vs. as a Wall Street moneymaker - nope
    LA Homicides - there is a connection, especially relating to the high school violinist whose family he met.

    ......and many, many more.


    The point of this is Steve has many, many interests. A lot of them are intertwined, but no one post can capture the sheer volume of topics Steve Sailer finds interesting.
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  26. donut says:

    What’s all the fuss about ? Why do you think they are importing these subhumans in the first place ?

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  27. neutral says:
    @reiner Tor
    It's going to be a hot summer, whites are going to riot all over the country. They will be looting shopping centers and murdering each other in record numbers. But that's just natural when protesting injustice.

    You may be joking, but I am seriously not joking when I say that the only way whites can ever get themselves out of the hole they are in is if they start rioting.

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  28. She was shot for talking to police officers in her PJ, arousing the Somali who’d never seen a woman up close in sexy PJ. Maybe he shot her to cover up his embarrassment…she should’ve been wearing a burqa, it was justified…in Somalia. He even put his own partner’s life in danger by shooting across his face.

    Can’t wait for the libtard Minneapolis police dept. and mayor to come up with the official excuse, and award this creep with a distinguished service medal. He’s representing as you know.

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    She was shot for talking to police officers in her PJ, arousing the Somali who’d never seen a woman up close in sexy PJ. Maybe he shot her to cover up his embarrassment…she should’ve been wearing a burqa, it was justified…in Somalia. He even put his own partner’s life in danger by shooting across his face.
     
    Total freakout over a woman's sexy PJs. She was soon to be married so wanted to look enticing.......my take too. Online clothing catalogs are full of women in alluring PJs, LL Bean too I am going to check....... https://www.llbean.com/llb/search/?freeText=womens+pajamas&init=1
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  29. Barnard says:
    @TangoMan
    I think that there might be a real story here regarding how this Somali qualified to be on the police force. I read that his presence was a big deal with the mayor and other politicians. Were strings pulled, was he the most qualified candidate?

    How many White women have to be executed by Somalis with a badge to make PC and virtue signaling high cost events for politicians and liberals?

    I wonder if this is another instance of sudden jihad syndrome. Pilots have been known to crash planes on purpose, so why would cops be immune from SJS?

    Were strings pulled, was he the most qualified candidate?

    He has a Business Administration degree from Augsburg College, I’m willing to assume he wasn’t held to the same academic standards as other Augsburg students either. Minneapolis has a Somali-American Police Association. They were desperate for anyone from the “East African Immigrant Community” to make it as a cop and overlooked any red flags that came up during his career so far.

    http://somaliamericanpa.org/

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  30. The article notes that victim was in her pajamas.

    My guess is that Officer Noor felt compelled by Allah to execute this shameless unbelieving harlot for her wantonness.

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  31. Clyde says:
    @utu
    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity. The fact that the guy is black and immigrant is of no importance. However the iSteve commentariat may see him as a positive example of assimilation and acculturation into American culture and its police subculture, in particular.

    You iconoclast and sub-genius!

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  32. Barnard says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    If only we listened to Black Lives Matter, says Black Lives Matter.

    More likely, Noor, along with Janez, are duds who wouldn't have been hired if not for Affirmative Action. I don't expect BLM to connect those dots though.

    https://twitter.com/ProfessorCrunk/status/886932986905714688

    It appears Brittany Cooper quickly switched gears to talking about R. Kelly after Mohammed Noor’s name as the shooter was released. I don’t think she is interested in responding to your questions about these obvious Affirmative Action hires killing people.

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  33. Is Noor the Major Hasan of the MPD?
    Did he mutter “Allahu Akbar” before shooting Diamond?
    Will the MPD find some way to excuse this?

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    Magic 8 Ball says no, no and no. I'm guessing incompetence rather than sudden jihad syndrome. I don't think that the cops are going to talk their way out of this one and Officer Noor is going down. He will lose his job and get charged and probably convicted of negligent homicide at a minimum. It's one thing to convince a jury that you had a reasonable fear that a black man was going for a weapon but this is a bridge too far.
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  34. AM says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Odd that she was shot through the door. Sounds like the gun went off accidentally. Good shot, though.

    Most likely all the known facts about this story are wrong. That is usually the case. I am sure more information will come out that will make more sense.

    Odd that she was shot through the door. Sounds like the gun went off accidentally. Good shot, though.

    There are reports of multiple shots. Nothing is confirmed.

    Also, through the door could be “through the open car window”. Journalists, who almost never concerned with details that concern mere mortals, even when not pushing a narrative, tend to re-write things along those lines.

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  35. Bill P says:

    I think I heard I heard a gushing interview with Noor on NPR a couple months ago. Can’t find it, but I’m looking.

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  36. AM says:
    @Anonym
    This story has to be one of the iSteveist stories of 2017.

    BLM - Check
    Somalis in Minnesota - Check
    Disparate impact in police hiring leading to hiring of incompetents - Check
    Dumbass virtue signalling Swedes - Check
    White on black crime - Check
    Offender was named Mohammed - Check
    MSM burying the lede - Check
    Standard delay in mentioning details of offender - Check

    OTOH it did not take place on a golf course.

    OTOH it did not take place on a golf course.

    There are golf courses in Minnesota, so that’s something. ;)

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  37. @Anonym
    It's kind of funny how the ethnic Swedish in high proportion bastion of Swedish-style idiocy, "Minnesota nice", put this Somali into the police force. "Ja, sure, you betcha!" Do the Swedes really have average IQ of 100 or so? I know they seem to have nice societies (pre-immigrant) and industry of the like you'd expect of a similar white population, but damned if their pathological altruism and will to want to believe in the good of other people despite all evidence to the contrary drags down their IQ to somewhere below that of Somalia.

    The Swedes? Book Smarts : Check that box.

    Street Smarts : Don’t check that box.

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    Thanks for posting that... that was awesome.
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  38. @Anonymous
    Reposting since Steve decided this OT story had critical mass.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/shooting-death-of-justine-damond-in-minneapolis-sparks-calls-for-federal-investigation/news-story/2d2486888c0c6d8fa1ca3d8f4bc7df91

    It’s pretty funny to see news.com.au’s take on this. On the one hand they want to blame it on America’s gun culture and trigger-happy police (BLM yo!). On the other hand, they can’t help but report that it was a police officer with only two years experience on the force from Somalia, (a skinny in Aussie parlance,) that shot her. They tend to take the Australian side in reporting when events happen overseas, even when obviously criminals and deserve what’s happening to them. (E.g. Schapelle Corby – the MSM here are strangely bigoted like that. I guess the US media did the same with Michael Fay, if you remember him.) So there is a level of truth in reporting so far that is unlike how they normally are (e.g. only showing 12 year old Trayvon). In this case they are conflicted.

    http://www.rsdb.org/race/somalians

    There is a new article about Trump every day on news.com.au and about 99/100 articles are anti-Trump. And maybe that 1/100 article was when he bombed Syria. Murdoch’s news.com.au is a smidgen to the right of Huffpo, but the commentors are mostly /ourguys.

    What I find interesting about this case is that you have a Muslim cop from a Stone Age culture who is confronted by an infidel woman in her pajamas. In other words, she wasn’t dressed appropriately based on his cultural expectations. Maybe, just maybe, he executed her based on that. It’s certainly worth looking into — although, knowing the Minnesotans, her expectation to live a long and healthy life takes a backseat to Officer Noor’s “muh culture.” So I don’t fancy her chances for justice.

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    Well, at least he used a modern weapon - a handgun - instead of stoning her to death.
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  39. @utu
    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity. The fact that the guy is black and immigrant is of no importance. However the iSteve commentariat may see him as a positive example of assimilation and acculturation into American culture and its police subculture, in particular.

    As soon as I heard this story on NPR this afternoon I made a quiet little bet with myself that this criminally incompetent cop was probably a “minority”. I could have made this call just based on a statistical analysis of the last score or so of unjustified cop shootings that made the national MSM.

    But I also did criminal justice system (CJS) policy analysis, research, and teaching for about fifteen years during my long and checkered professional career. It is an unmentionable but well known fact in the CJS community – one vehemently ignored by the large PC/SJW contingent within that community – that levels of corruption and ineptitude, often homicidal corruption and ineptitude, are rife within affirmative action minority hires, whether its the police, prison guards, POs, bailiffs, whatever.

    More often than not minority hires in the CJS system have a criminal background that is discounted in the interests of “diversity”. They are usually less intelligent, less able to deal with stress and tense situations, more impulse driven, and far more likely to resort to violence in situations involving potential conflict, than their middle class, White counterparts. These stories are going to be getting more common. Get used to it.

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    Exactly. Really Infuriating. Decent chance this cop acted out of malice.

    Another sacrifice at the altar of diversity.
    , @utu
    I agree that lowering standards of hiring due to affirmative action and actually not letting top scoring candidates in is part of the problem.

    Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

    However the police corruption, their poor training and attitude of being above the law precedes the mandates of affirmative action. The culture, the rule of engagement better suited for a combat zone than modern western society makes killing and getting away with it just too easy for police.

    We do not know the details and probably won't know them as the cameras were off. But I would not exclude the possibility that the Australian woman made the mistake of thinking she was still in Australia and was too causal and possibly showing "an attitude" that is not tolerated by American police and may result in death or severe bodily harm.
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  40. How did this break through the media’s THL to become a national story? A white woman killed by a Muslim … nothing to see here, deplorable h8ers, move along …

    (THL = Tight, hard lid)

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    How did this break through the media’s THL to become a national story? A white woman killed by a Muslim … nothing to see here, deplorable h8ers, move along …
     
    They slip through occasionally. The Narrative is important, but journalists revert back to their nature of chasing ambulances and just generally generally making sure that they can meet up with their buddies in covering a story.
    , @Anon
    It broke through because the national bureaus thought it was an angry Lutheran American cop who was reckless with his weapon. They will bury it now that we know the name of the cop.
    , @Anonymous
    It probably matters somewhat that the deceased is a quite attractive 40 year old woman (much more attractive than most women her age). She seems like the sort of woman many leftist female journalists imagine themselves being at that age.
    , @sb
    This story was always bound to get a lot of coverage in Australia where all the media outlets have sent their USA correspondents to the scene. I expect the story will run for a while here /there

    The victim is a middle class woman -a trained veterinarian come yoga new age teacher -who moved to the US for romance ( The alternative of her fiancé moving to Australia would have problems because there is an American adult son in the picture )
    Plus it satisfies a certain Australian view of US society regardless of any racial angle ie police shoot first and ask questions later .

    While I'm here another news item with Australian content today may be of interest :

    A Senator in the Australian Parliament declared herself a non Senator today as she says she has just found she also has Canadian citizenship and under the Australian Constitution dual citizens are ineligible to be in Parliament .
    She is a Green Party rep which is the leftist party possible on all the usual issues including open borders .
    Anyway she was born in Canada and left before she turned one and has never been back and claimed that she was under the impression that she had to make a claim for Canadian citizenship on her majority to be a Canadian which she chose not to do

    Her comment was that it is "really weird " that simply being born in Canada of Australian parents and having no other ties to that country would make you a Canadian citizen .

    Hard to disagree
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  41. @Half Canadian
    My assumption is that the two officers were talking with the lady on the phone, she walked up to them from behind and the shooter was startled.
    Horrible tragedy, but black lives matter.

    Yeah, go ahead and say it! Black Lives Matter a hell of a goddam lot!

    Meanwhile, White Lives are not worth a Hill of Beans in This Crazy World!

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  42. Anonym says:
    @Detective Club
    The Swedes? Book Smarts : Check that box.
    https://youtu.be/e0_29eCZF_M
    Street Smarts : Don't check that box.

    Thanks for posting that… that was awesome.

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  43. @reiner Tor
    It's going to be a hot summer, whites are going to riot all over the country. They will be looting shopping centers and murdering each other in record numbers. But that's just natural when protesting injustice.

    Yes, let’s all exercise extreme caution when attending farmers markets, air shows and renaissance fairs! If you need a safe space, find a rap concert or midnight basketball game.

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  44. Achilles says:

    Mohamed has released a statement:

    My gun fired prematurely when the blonde Australian yoga instructor in her pajamas came bouncing up to the police car window to report a crime.

    This incident illustrates the importance of women being properly covered and accompanied by a male relative when reporting crime in order to safeguard against the possibility of a gun going off prematurely.

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  45. Boudicca says:

    Toronto Star (largest newspaper Canada) doesn’t even mention Noor once. And has “One of the cases in recent weeks again led to rallies and condemnation when an officer who shot a black man during a traffic stop was acquitted.” in the third paragraph.

    https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/07/17/this-bride-to-be-called-911-for-help-so-why-did-a-minneapolis-police-officer-shoot-her-dead.html

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  46. gman says:

    not surprisingly, vox goes out of the way to not name the officer or officer background

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/17/15985442/minneapolis-police-shooting-justine-damond-video

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    Thanks.
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  47. Clyde says:
    @Ulterior motive
    She was shot for talking to police officers in her PJ, arousing the Somali who'd never seen a woman up close in sexy PJ. Maybe he shot her to cover up his embarrassment...she should've been wearing a burqa, it was justified...in Somalia. He even put his own partner's life in danger by shooting across his face.

    Can't wait for the libtard Minneapolis police dept. and mayor to come up with the official excuse, and award this creep with a distinguished service medal. He's representing as you know.

    She was shot for talking to police officers in her PJ, arousing the Somali who’d never seen a woman up close in sexy PJ. Maybe he shot her to cover up his embarrassment…she should’ve been wearing a burqa, it was justified…in Somalia. He even put his own partner’s life in danger by shooting across his face.

    Total freakout over a woman’s sexy PJs. She was soon to be married so wanted to look enticing…….my take too. Online clothing catalogs are full of women in alluring PJs, LL Bean too I am going to check……. https://www.llbean.com/llb/search/?freeText=womens+pajamas&init=1

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  48. A number of the reports note that the “weapon has not been found.”

    Unless the papers are all picking up an error in some source wire service story, that’s just plain odd, considering that it was an on-duty cop’s gun used in the enclosed confines of a two-man squad car.

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    Now the partner will be retiring on disability due to hearing loss. Don't be surprised if the "skinny" doesn't get a disability payment too.
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  49. MEH 0910 says:

    Somewhere, Tiny Duck is smiling.

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    Sorry, you're wrong there. Somewhere, in the deepest recesses of his hellish little mind, TINY DUCK is laughing his frickin kinky perverse head off!
    https://youtu.be/GO549lPW6eA
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  50. mobi says:
    @International Jew

    Damond was shot by officer sitting in the passenger seat through driver door
     
    I wonder who he was trying to kill, the unfortunate Mrs. Damand, or his partner? He couldn't have been too fond of his partner in any case, if he shot across his body like that.

    I wonder who he was trying to kill, the unfortunate Mrs. Damand, or his partner? He couldn’t have been too fond of his partner in any case, if he shot across his body like that.

    ‘Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.’

    Also, Hell is where the police are Somalis.

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    Hell is where the Somalis are in charge of anything.
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  51. Well, clearly, Noor was apprehensive that she would attack them with her dangerous vagina!

    Did she have a license for her vagina?

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  52. AM says:
    @The Only Catholic Unionist
    How did this break through the media's THL to become a national story? A white woman killed by a Muslim ... nothing to see here, deplorable h8ers, move along ...

    (THL = Tight, hard lid)

    How did this break through the media’s THL to become a national story? A white woman killed by a Muslim … nothing to see here, deplorable h8ers, move along …

    They slip through occasionally. The Narrative is important, but journalists revert back to their nature of chasing ambulances and just generally generally making sure that they can meet up with their buddies in covering a story.

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    Some of these journalists might be gambling that if they print this story and hide the killer's identity, then lots of people will glance quickly and file this incident under "racist killer cops", thus buttressing the Narrative. For every person who cares enough to figure out who really was involved (by checking multiple sources, reading to the very end of long articles...or keeping up with iSteve), there's ten who just glance quickly and jump to the usual conclusions.
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  53. I’m counting down the hours to the inevitable story about how two immigrants seeking new lives found their paths intersecting. And how one of them had it easy, with a fast lane into white suburban life as a yoga guru, and the other struggled heroically against bias to seek out honor and express his gratitude to his newfound home in a career as a public servant.

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    It's very likely that such a story will be written within the next 72 hours. The leftist MSM is entirely predictable. Should anybody in our commentariat find an article that follows the guidelines set by PiltdownMan, please let Steve know.
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  54. @Bragadocious
    What I find interesting about this case is that you have a Muslim cop from a Stone Age culture who is confronted by an infidel woman in her pajamas. In other words, she wasn't dressed appropriately based on his cultural expectations. Maybe, just maybe, he executed her based on that. It's certainly worth looking into -- although, knowing the Minnesotans, her expectation to live a long and healthy life takes a backseat to Officer Noor's "muh culture." So I don't fancy her chances for justice.

    Well, at least he used a modern weapon – a handgun – instead of stoning her to death.

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  55. Danindc says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...
    As soon as I heard this story on NPR this afternoon I made a quiet little bet with myself that this criminally incompetent cop was probably a "minority". I could have made this call just based on a statistical analysis of the last score or so of unjustified cop shootings that made the national MSM.

    But I also did criminal justice system (CJS) policy analysis, research, and teaching for about fifteen years during my long and checkered professional career. It is an unmentionable but well known fact in the CJS community - one vehemently ignored by the large PC/SJW contingent within that community - that levels of corruption and ineptitude, often homicidal corruption and ineptitude, are rife within affirmative action minority hires, whether its the police, prison guards, POs, bailiffs, whatever.

    More often than not minority hires in the CJS system have a criminal background that is discounted in the interests of "diversity". They are usually less intelligent, less able to deal with stress and tense situations, more impulse driven, and far more likely to resort to violence in situations involving potential conflict, than their middle class, White counterparts. These stories are going to be getting more common. Get used to it.

    Exactly. Really Infuriating. Decent chance this cop acted out of malice.

    Another sacrifice at the altar of diversity.

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  56. @MEH 0910
    Somewhere, Tiny Duck is smiling.

    Sorry, you’re wrong there. Somewhere, in the deepest recesses of his hellish little mind, TINY DUCK is laughing his frickin kinky perverse head off!

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  57. utu says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...
    As soon as I heard this story on NPR this afternoon I made a quiet little bet with myself that this criminally incompetent cop was probably a "minority". I could have made this call just based on a statistical analysis of the last score or so of unjustified cop shootings that made the national MSM.

    But I also did criminal justice system (CJS) policy analysis, research, and teaching for about fifteen years during my long and checkered professional career. It is an unmentionable but well known fact in the CJS community - one vehemently ignored by the large PC/SJW contingent within that community - that levels of corruption and ineptitude, often homicidal corruption and ineptitude, are rife within affirmative action minority hires, whether its the police, prison guards, POs, bailiffs, whatever.

    More often than not minority hires in the CJS system have a criminal background that is discounted in the interests of "diversity". They are usually less intelligent, less able to deal with stress and tense situations, more impulse driven, and far more likely to resort to violence in situations involving potential conflict, than their middle class, White counterparts. These stories are going to be getting more common. Get used to it.

    I agree that lowering standards of hiring due to affirmative action and actually not letting top scoring candidates in is part of the problem.

    Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

    However the police corruption, their poor training and attitude of being above the law precedes the mandates of affirmative action. The culture, the rule of engagement better suited for a combat zone than modern western society makes killing and getting away with it just too easy for police.

    We do not know the details and probably won’t know them as the cameras were off. But I would not exclude the possibility that the Australian woman made the mistake of thinking she was still in Australia and was too causal and possibly showing “an attitude” that is not tolerated by American police and may result in death or severe bodily harm.

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    But I would not exclude the possibility that the Australian woman made the mistake of thinking she was still in Australia
     
    First time with a Somali cop. Dangerous situation.
    , @Bill B.

    I would not exclude the possibility that the Australian woman made the mistake of thinking she was still in Australia and was too causal and possibly showing “an attitude”

     

    That would be my guess; the Star Tribune reports she was talking to the cops. The shooting, if this report is at all accurate, appears to be the result of Noor reacting badly to something said by the lady.

    "Sources identified Noor's partner on the scene, who did not fire any shots, as officer Matthew Harrity, 25, who earned his peace officer's license last year. A spokeswoman for the BCA confirmed there was no weapon found at the scene, creating even more mystery about how Damond's call to police ended in one of the responding officers fatally shooting her...

    Damond, in her pajamas, went to the driver's side door of the responding squad and was talking to the officer, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the case.

    Moments later, Noor shot across his partner from the passenger's seat, killing Damond."

     

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  58. jay-w says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Odd that she was shot through the door. Sounds like the gun went off accidentally. Good shot, though.

    Most likely all the known facts about this story are wrong. That is usually the case. I am sure more information will come out that will make more sense.

    ” …. Sounds like the gun went off accidentally. …”

    For the millionth time, people:
    Guns do **NOT** go off “accidentally.” Guns may go off unintentionally if some idiot has disregarded the most fundamental rule of gun safety and put his finger inside the trigger guard when he shouldn’t have; but they never, never go off accidentally.

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    Thank you !!!. Even if he was so stupid as to squeeze the trigger, he reached across the driver. It wasn't accidental at all.
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  59. Another example of why government employees should not be allowed to own weapons. Citizens should be armed, government employees should not be.

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  60. As it stands, this story doesn’t make any sense, except, perhaps, as some kind of accident (not that that sort of accident wouldn’t be attributable to deep incompetence.)

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    Incompetence.
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  61. @PiltdownMan
    A number of the reports note that the "weapon has not been found."

    Unless the papers are all picking up an error in some source wire service story, that's just plain odd, considering that it was an on-duty cop's gun used in the enclosed confines of a two-man squad car.

    Now the partner will be retiring on disability due to hearing loss. Don’t be surprised if the “skinny” doesn’t get a disability payment too.

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  62. @gman
    not surprisingly, vox goes out of the way to not name the officer or officer background


    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/17/15985442/minneapolis-police-shooting-justine-damond-video

    Thanks.

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  63. boomstick says:

    What is it, a couple days later and there’s been no government attempt to describe a reason for lethal force? It’s pretty deeply suspicious.

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  64. gemjunior says:

    One of the most common things in articles like this one, that is apt to make me vomit one of these days, is how breathlessly excited the left is when one of these parasites has a job commonly held by an American man, especially a white one who got it based on his own merit. They can’t hide the thrill going down their leg like it’s such a great thing to be a cop when A SOMALI IMMIGRANT IS A COP. White men who are cops are all evil crooked racists who need to get fried like bacon, but this guy is a hero! hero! hero! even when he blows the head of an innocent white woman asking a question. Trust me when I say I doubt that this lady was acting up like Sandra Bland pretending to hang herself, or screaming like the actress having sex in the car on the busy street. And whoever said that was right – how Brittney Cooper (white name – cultural appropriation Brittney – stop it! Right now!) let a comment go that sounded kind of like “Neh neh neh – neh neh” very mature. Why oh why can’t we just get started on the Just Us Ethno State?

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  65. @Arclight
    It seems that taking several high profile cases together - this one, Castile, Tamir Rice - jittery officers ended up blowing away citizens in gross overreactions to any perceived threat. It seems that police departments might have a problem with a low bar to join the force in order to keep the number of officers on the street at the appropriate level. No doubt post-Ferguson this has intensified.

    Tamir Rice pointed his real looking toy pistol at the police. How many rounds should he be allowed to fire before the police confirm its an actual pistol?

    The fact that Castile, gang member who maybe at one time held a CCW in another county and couldn’t follow directions while smoking weed with his kid in the car, is such a cause celebre among libertarians only underlines how they should be kept away from the actual levers of power.

    Just gonna throw it out here but maybe policing ain’t like Maybury RFD.

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    Wasn't Castile an affirmative action school district employee as well as a gang member?
    , @Chris Mallory

    How many rounds should he be allowed to fire before the police confirm its an actual pistol?
     
    Enough to prove an actual threat. Better a cop be killed than an innocent citizen.


    Castile, couldn’t follow directions
     
    Castile was following the directions to produce his driver's license. He was not reaching for his legally carried firearm.

    Again, citizens in the US have the right to go armed. If the cops cannot handle this, then they need to quit and find honest work. Better 1000 dead cops than one citizen having his rights or safety harmed by a cop.
    , @Jack D
    The cop shot Tamir Rice within 2 seconds of arriving on the scene. Literally two seconds. I think he should have weighed the matter for at least say 5 or 10 seconds before he decided to end someone's life. They could have stopped some distance away and spoken to him from their bullhorns. There are a lot of things they could have done other than shooting a 12 year old boy in 2 seconds flat.

    The fact that Castile may have been smoking weed with a child in the car is completely irrelevant. We don't have the death penalty for smoking weed. All this was was an effort to slander the victim. Listen to the Castile recording - he did absolutely everything right. He was calm and coherent and respectful and told the cop that he had a legal weapon and the cop murdered him anyway.

    Policing isn't Mayberry but it's not the most dangerous profession either - driving a cab is more dangerous but we don't give cabbies license to just shoot people because they make them nervous.
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  66. Forbes says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Odd that she was shot through the door. Sounds like the gun went off accidentally. Good shot, though.

    Most likely all the known facts about this story are wrong. That is usually the case. I am sure more information will come out that will make more sense.

    Odd that the victim was shot at all.

    For the gun to be fired, killing the woman, the officer would have to take the gun out of his holster and point the gun in her direction. Nothing accidental about that. Also, not safe handling of a gun.

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    Also, a good way to shoot your partner in the face.
    , @George
    Why is that Somali get in this country? Oh yeah, global war on terror. I forgot. Support the troops. These colors don't run ...

    Always treat a gun like it is loaded, especially if it is loaded

    Cop Shoots himself in the leg - YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0

    Safety First
    Does a video capture a DEA agent who accidentally shot himself while conducting a presentation on gun safety?

    http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/gunsafety.asp

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    Here http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/policy/mpdpolicy_3-200_3-200 it says that allowed duty hand guns in the Minneapolis PD are the following: Sig Sauer P320; Glock Gen 4 17, 19 and 21; Smith & Wesson M&P pistol; Sig Sauer P226 and P227, and Berretta 92 Series.

    I am familiar with the operating characteristics of all these pistols and have used several. All but the last named Sig Sauer Series and the Beretta 92 are striker action pistols. They require at least 4.5 lbs of finger pressure to discharge every time.

    The Sig Sauer p226/P227 and Beretta 92 are double action/single action semi-autos with decocking levers. If these pistols are properly used it is basically impossible for them to discharge accidentally. If the safety/decocking lever is not on safety, a round is in the chamber, and the hammer is down it again takes about 4.5 pounds of finger pressure to discharge the first round.

    The bottom line is that if this Somali idiot/thug was carrying a proper weapon in an approved manner the only way he could have fired his weapon was deliberately and with intent. He's guilty of manslaughter or murder either way. The lesser charge should include at least depraved indifference.

    Why are we letting these thuggish morons into our country when it is obvious they are utterly unsuited to be citizens.
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  67. syonredux says:
    @utu
    I agree that lowering standards of hiring due to affirmative action and actually not letting top scoring candidates in is part of the problem.

    Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

    However the police corruption, their poor training and attitude of being above the law precedes the mandates of affirmative action. The culture, the rule of engagement better suited for a combat zone than modern western society makes killing and getting away with it just too easy for police.

    We do not know the details and probably won't know them as the cameras were off. But I would not exclude the possibility that the Australian woman made the mistake of thinking she was still in Australia and was too causal and possibly showing "an attitude" that is not tolerated by American police and may result in death or severe bodily harm.

    But I would not exclude the possibility that the Australian woman made the mistake of thinking she was still in Australia

    First time with a Somali cop. Dangerous situation.

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  68. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @The Only Catholic Unionist
    How did this break through the media's THL to become a national story? A white woman killed by a Muslim ... nothing to see here, deplorable h8ers, move along ...

    (THL = Tight, hard lid)

    It broke through because the national bureaus thought it was an angry Lutheran American cop who was reckless with his weapon. They will bury it now that we know the name of the cop.

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    It broke through because the national bureaus thought it was an angry Lutheran American cop who was reckless with his weapon
     
    That and the fact that the victim was an immigrant. "Midwest cop shoots and kills innocent immigrant" is a very exciting story for Establishment Media.

    They will bury it now that we know the name of the cop.
     
    Agreed. Perhaps a few vague mumblings about Trump creating an atmosphere of mistrust or something.
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  69. Forbes says:
    @candid_observer
    As it stands, this story doesn't make any sense, except, perhaps, as some kind of accident (not that that sort of accident wouldn't be attributable to deep incompetence.)

    We'll just have to wait out the details.

    Incompetence.

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  70. Clyde says:
    @Anonym
    This story has to be one of the iSteveist stories of 2017.

    BLM - Check
    Somalis in Minnesota - Check
    Disparate impact in police hiring leading to hiring of incompetents - Check
    Dumbass virtue signalling Swedes - Check
    White on black crime - Check
    Offender was named Mohammed - Check
    MSM burying the lede - Check
    Standard delay in mentioning details of offender - Check

    OTOH it did not take place on a golf course.

    Dumbass virtue signalling Swedes – Check
    Offender was named Mohammad —Check

    Swedes and whites being the most culpable. They are only here because we allowed and brought them here. Put more blame on white crazies and profiteers from this whole refugee/immigration mess. You and your addiction to ethnic restaurants like that aut spectrum dope at George Mason Tyler Cowen
    ________________________
    the Hipcrime Vocab: Let Them Eat Beans!
    hipcrime.blogspot.com/2014/06/let-them-eat-beans.html
    Jun 25, 2014 · Let Them Eat Beans: … The author of the book, Tyler Cowen, is an economics professor at George Mason University, … So let’s try to tease out its …

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  71. Dr. X says:
    @utu
    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity. The fact that the guy is black and immigrant is of no importance. However the iSteve commentariat may see him as a positive example of assimilation and acculturation into American culture and its police subculture, in particular.

    Well, obviously, this is yet another example of why only cops should have guns, and why diversity is our greatest strength.

    /snark

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  72. @Forbes
    Odd that the victim was shot at all.

    For the gun to be fired, killing the woman, the officer would have to take the gun out of his holster and point the gun in her direction. Nothing accidental about that. Also, not safe handling of a gun.

    Also, a good way to shoot your partner in the face.

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    Maybe that's who he was aiming at?
    The facts released until now make no sense at all. Very fishy indeed!
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  73. Lurker says:
    @TangoMan
    I think that there might be a real story here regarding how this Somali qualified to be on the police force. I read that his presence was a big deal with the mayor and other politicians. Were strings pulled, was he the most qualified candidate?

    How many White women have to be executed by Somalis with a badge to make PC and virtue signaling high cost events for politicians and liberals?

    I wonder if this is another instance of sudden jihad syndrome. Pilots have been known to crash planes on purpose, so why would cops be immune from SJS?

    How many White women have to be executed by Somalis with a badge to make PC and virtue signaling high cost events for politicians and liberals?

    All of them. And it still won’t be enough.

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  74. J1234 says:

    The latest details I’ve seen on this story now make me wonder if this might be an act of terrorism on the part of the immigrant Muslim cop. I was thinking that there was some sort of confrontation between her and the cop, but apparently she walked up to the cruiser and was giving the officer nearest her some information about the complaint when the the other cop in the far seat just drew his gun and shot her for no apparent reason.

    I don’t know if that’s accurate or not, but that’s what the news report I saw claimed. Or maybe she told the officers that Somalis (lots of the them in the Twin Cities) were involved in the assault she’d reported and the immigrant cop was offended.

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    Chances are that the initial news reports are inaccurate and incomplete as they usually are. The chances are even greater that the scenario that you spin out of thin air is completely wrong. Most likely it was simple incompetence.
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  75. @mobi

    I wonder who he was trying to kill, the unfortunate Mrs. Damand, or his partner? He couldn’t have been too fond of his partner in any case, if he shot across his body like that.
     
    'Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.'

    Also, Hell is where the police are Somalis.

    Hell is where the Somalis are in charge of anything.

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    Hell is where the Somalis are in charge of anything.
     
    Thus, why "Visit Somali" never makes it to anyone's bucket list, including those who propose to import them.
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  76. @AM

    How did this break through the media’s THL to become a national story? A white woman killed by a Muslim … nothing to see here, deplorable h8ers, move along …
     
    They slip through occasionally. The Narrative is important, but journalists revert back to their nature of chasing ambulances and just generally generally making sure that they can meet up with their buddies in covering a story.

    Some of these journalists might be gambling that if they print this story and hide the killer’s identity, then lots of people will glance quickly and file this incident under “racist killer cops”, thus buttressing the Narrative. For every person who cares enough to figure out who really was involved (by checking multiple sources, reading to the very end of long articles…or keeping up with iSteve), there’s ten who just glance quickly and jump to the usual conclusions.

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  77. AM says:
    @International Jew
    Hell is where the Somalis are in charge of anything.

    Hell is where the Somalis are in charge of anything.

    Thus, why “Visit Somali” never makes it to anyone’s bucket list, including those who propose to import them.

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    "Visit Somalia" is on my Bartleby List.
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  78. George says:
    @Forbes
    Odd that the victim was shot at all.

    For the gun to be fired, killing the woman, the officer would have to take the gun out of his holster and point the gun in her direction. Nothing accidental about that. Also, not safe handling of a gun.

    Why is that Somali get in this country? Oh yeah, global war on terror. I forgot. Support the troops. These colors don’t run …

    Always treat a gun like it is loaded, especially if it is loaded

    Cop Shoots himself in the leg – YouTube

    Safety First
    Does a video capture a DEA agent who accidentally shot himself while conducting a presentation on gun safety?

    http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/gunsafety.asp

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    Florida police chief, officer arrested in woman's fatal shooting at citizen's academy exercise
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/26/florida-police-chief-officer-arrested-in-womans-fatal-shooting-at-citizens-academy-exercise.html
    , @utu
    Fresno County Sheriff's Sergeant Rod Lucas died in October while talking with a detective about how to carry their backup weapons.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4705892/Detective-accidentally-shot-colleague-charged.html#ixzz4nA0xIQIU
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  79. Isn’t the Minneapolis cop situation a lot like the movie Alien Nation?

    Affirmative action for aliens.

    http://www.scifi-movies.com/english/short-0000103-alien-nation-1989.htm

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  80. BB753 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Also, a good way to shoot your partner in the face.

    Maybe that’s who he was aiming at?
    The facts released until now make no sense at all. Very fishy indeed!

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  81. @AM

    Hell is where the Somalis are in charge of anything.
     
    Thus, why "Visit Somali" never makes it to anyone's bucket list, including those who propose to import them.

    “Visit Somalia” is on my Bartleby List.

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  82. utu says:
    @George
    Why is that Somali get in this country? Oh yeah, global war on terror. I forgot. Support the troops. These colors don't run ...

    Always treat a gun like it is loaded, especially if it is loaded

    Cop Shoots himself in the leg - YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0

    Safety First
    Does a video capture a DEA agent who accidentally shot himself while conducting a presentation on gun safety?

    http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/gunsafety.asp

    Florida police chief, officer arrested in woman’s fatal shooting at citizen’s academy exercise

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/26/florida-police-chief-officer-arrested-in-womans-fatal-shooting-at-citizens-academy-exercise.html

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  83. Whiskey says: • Website

    A couple of things: 1. Alt Right S-Lords will be sure to tell everyone they know about the perp being a Somali Muslim named Noor and the victim a pretty blonde woman from Australia about to be married; and the dissonance by the media memory holing the identities and the truth easily seen on the Daily Mail will create … more S-Lords.

    2. The commenter saying Whites must invoke FEAR among the authorities is correct. Any rioting will not be tolerated and protected by Blacks, but action doxxing, revealing, and publicizing the officials involved including any and all family members and friends for this affair MUST happen as Kevin Michael Grace recently suggested regarding the doxxing threat of some media woman or things will only get WORSE.

    For every one of ours killed, twenty of theirs must be doxxed and ruined. I find the probability close to 1 that most of the family and friends of the police officials who hired, trained, and covered for Noor are corrupt and involved in illegal and corrupt things. Look at Bernie Sanders, man of the People, who paid cash for his $750,000 summer beach house in Maine, and his corrupt bureaucrat wife who evicted disabled people to make way for her failing college’s building in a real estate deal that went bust and fradulently cost the state and feds millions, with help from Sander’s Senate office.

    Sanders is probably the LEAST corrupt of them — so lets get looking!

    3. This seemed a pre-meditated murder of a White person as revenge for Philando Castille: the body cams of both officers were turned off as were the squad car cams, BEFORE the incident. The cop shot through the door, and presumably had shot his weapon at the firing range knowing how loud that was. Shooting in a car is very bad idea if any alternatives are about. The victim was a pretty blonde woman who looked as threatening as say, your average blonde yoga instructor: threat level 0 from 1-10.

    4. The perp Noor needs a good doxxing, as does his family, sponsors, and the rest. In addition, it is time for a class action lawsuit against his sponsors to conduct LAWFARE against them for importing a murderer who killed someone costing taxpayers lots and lots of money. In addition, there should be protesters at both the Noor family residences and particularly, the SPONSORS and church services of the sponsoring organization (slam dunk it was the Lutherans) should regularly be disrupted so the parishoners are either made angry that they are sponsoring that or simply driven away by intimidation.

    Non White men have claimed everything in a dog-like dominance display: White women, their lives, White men’s lives, property, pretty much everything they figure belongs to them and the only way to deal with it is counter dominance displays. That means not tolerating anything and making people AFRAID to cross Whites for fear of punishment like Doxxing which is not illegal. Groveling to make them love us has failed for fifty years. Time for project FEAR.

    Every incompetent, sudden jihad syndrome rage filled immigrant should know that there are consequences — an “Army of Davids” to quote Glenn Reynolds comes after not just them but family and friends and keeps coming. Forever.

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    the body cams of both officers were turned off as were the squad car cams, BEFORE the incident
     
    Typically both the body cams and car cams must be turned ON before they operate. Usually squad car cams only turn on when the emergency lights/siren are turned on. They can also be turned on manually. Body cams usually must be turned on as well. Otherwise during a normal shift you will run out of storage space and you will get lots of footage of the cop in the bathroom or sleeping in his car.

    If they had rolled up cold to this alley, there is no reason for the squad cam to be on.

    When you see cops getting in trouble for turning cameras off it is usually after a chase when the cameras automatically activated and the cop turns them off so he can act as judge and jury.
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  84. One choice for the sequence in which the information in a news report is presented is known as the

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_pyramid_(journalism)

    , in which the basic who-what-when-where-why-how information is reported first, followed by important details, and then various background information. This Inverted pyramid sequence is often replaced with the Narrative protection sequence, in which the revelation of any information that conflicts with an ideology (“the Narrative”) is softpedaled and placed toward the end of the article, where a busy cursory reader will overlook it.

    This article illustrates the two sequences in which the description unfolds. The sensationalistic Daily Mail adopts the Inverted pyramid sequence, while the New York Times/AP adopts the Narrative protection sequence.

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  85. Alden says:
    @Half Canadian
    My assumption is that the two officers were talking with the lady on the phone, she walked up to them from behind and the shooter was startled.
    Horrible tragedy, but black lives matter.

    No, she was standing in front of the drivers door speaking with the driver and both officers knew she was the person who made the call. Both officers saw her clearly and there was no reason to suspect she was armed or the suspect.

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  86. Alden says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Tamir Rice pointed his real looking toy pistol at the police. How many rounds should he be allowed to fire before the police confirm its an actual pistol?

    The fact that Castile, gang member who maybe at one time held a CCW in another county and couldn't follow directions while smoking weed with his kid in the car, is such a cause celebre among libertarians only underlines how they should be kept away from the actual levers of power.

    Just gonna throw it out here but maybe policing ain't like Maybury RFD.

    Wasn’t Castile an affirmative action school district employee as well as a gang member?

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  87. @Forbes
    Odd that the victim was shot at all.

    For the gun to be fired, killing the woman, the officer would have to take the gun out of his holster and point the gun in her direction. Nothing accidental about that. Also, not safe handling of a gun.

    Here http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/policy/mpdpolicy_3-200_3-200 it says that allowed duty hand guns in the Minneapolis PD are the following: Sig Sauer P320; Glock Gen 4 17, 19 and 21; Smith & Wesson M&P pistol; Sig Sauer P226 and P227, and Berretta 92 Series.

    I am familiar with the operating characteristics of all these pistols and have used several. All but the last named Sig Sauer Series and the Beretta 92 are striker action pistols. They require at least 4.5 lbs of finger pressure to discharge every time.

    The Sig Sauer p226/P227 and Beretta 92 are double action/single action semi-autos with decocking levers. If these pistols are properly used it is basically impossible for them to discharge accidentally. If the safety/decocking lever is not on safety, a round is in the chamber, and the hammer is down it again takes about 4.5 pounds of finger pressure to discharge the first round.

    The bottom line is that if this Somali idiot/thug was carrying a proper weapon in an approved manner the only way he could have fired his weapon was deliberately and with intent. He’s guilty of manslaughter or murder either way. The lesser charge should include at least depraved indifference.

    Why are we letting these thuggish morons into our country when it is obvious they are utterly unsuited to be citizens.

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  88. Alden says:
    @jay-w
    " .... Sounds like the gun went off accidentally. ..."

    For the millionth time, people:
    Guns do **NOT** go off "accidentally." Guns may go off unintentionally if some idiot has disregarded the most fundamental rule of gun safety and put his finger inside the trigger guard when he shouldn't have; but they never, never go off accidentally.

    Thank you !!!. Even if he was so stupid as to squeeze the trigger, he reached across the driver. It wasn’t accidental at all.

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  89. sabril says:
    @Anon
    It broke through because the national bureaus thought it was an angry Lutheran American cop who was reckless with his weapon. They will bury it now that we know the name of the cop.

    It broke through because the national bureaus thought it was an angry Lutheran American cop who was reckless with his weapon

    That and the fact that the victim was an immigrant. “Midwest cop shoots and kills innocent immigrant” is a very exciting story for Establishment Media.

    They will bury it now that we know the name of the cop.

    Agreed. Perhaps a few vague mumblings about Trump creating an atmosphere of mistrust or something.

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  90. The only concrete statement the BCA has made so far is to confirm that ‘At one point an officer fired their weapon, fatally striking a woman’.

    “their” weapon.

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    “their” weapon.
     
    Idiotic gender neutral usage.
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  91. Escher says:
    @TangoMan
    I think that there might be a real story here regarding how this Somali qualified to be on the police force. I read that his presence was a big deal with the mayor and other politicians. Were strings pulled, was he the most qualified candidate?

    How many White women have to be executed by Somalis with a badge to make PC and virtue signaling high cost events for politicians and liberals?

    I wonder if this is another instance of sudden jihad syndrome. Pilots have been known to crash planes on purpose, so why would cops be immune from SJS?

    The poor Australian lady was probably in violation of the new Sharia dress code in Minneapolis.

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  92. Somalis, they make the best police officers. That’s why the streets of Somalia are the safest in the world.

    We need to take a look at the PJ in question. Were they short shorts coupled with a spaghetti strapped top that showed excessive cleavage when she bent down to talk to the officers? If so that would justify shooting, that wanton harlot had it coming. It’s what they do in Somalia, that’s why the streets of Somalia are so safe. Next the mayor of Minneapolis will be awarding Muhammad Noor a medal of honor for distinguished service and promote him to Chief Culture Police.

    Leave it to the Somali police force to keep the streets of Minneapolis safe, just like the streets of Mogadishu. Minnesotans you are in good hands.

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  93. JimS says:
    @Anonym
    This story has to be one of the iSteveist stories of 2017.

    BLM - Check
    Somalis in Minnesota - Check
    Disparate impact in police hiring leading to hiring of incompetents - Check
    Dumbass virtue signalling Swedes - Check
    White on black crime - Check
    Offender was named Mohammed - Check
    MSM burying the lede - Check
    Standard delay in mentioning details of offender - Check

    OTOH it did not take place on a golf course.

    Come on, look at all the boxes it didn’t check:

    Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism – nope
    Lack of white Americans competing in professional basketball – nope
    Georgia’s aggression in the invasion of South Ossetia – nope
    Steroids (including many sub-topics: Andrew Sullivan, Tiger Woods, baseball, etc.) – nope
    Race as a partially inbred extended family – nope
    Rusty Staub’s private life – nope
    Invade the world – nope
    Invite the world – ok, yeah
    In hock to the world – nope (been a long time for some of these posts)
    Black actor representation in Academy Awards – nope
    Lack of Hispanic actors or demand therefor – nope
    Affordable family formation – nope
    Adventuresses – nope (I don’t think…)
    Silicon Valley Eugenics – nope
    Ownership of Los Angeles sports teams – nope
    World War G/T/?? – nope
    SPLC – nope
    Carlos Slim -nope
    Jared Diamond and race -nope
    Genius T Coates or Henry Louis Gates – nope
    Great White Defendant or other Bonfire reference – nope
    Indian (Native American) or genetic alcoholism – nope
    Kahneman trick questions – nope
    Interracial marriage rates – nope
    IQ map hoaxes – nope
    Closing “the gap” – maybe, for relaxing standards to hire the officer. We’ll see.
    Israeli espionage – nope
    Who? Whom? – Ok, this is very likely
    Sports Stars’ skin whitening – nope
    Gentrification – nope
    Prop 187 (1994) vs. 1992 for California going Democrat – nope
    Sailer vs. Freakonomics – nope
    Tiger Mothers – nope
    Social mobility and English/Norman names – nope
    San Fernando Valley private high schools – nope
    SAT and education overhauls (e.g. Common Core) – nope
    Bush/minority subprime lending – nope
    Mortgage meltdown in general – nope
    CIA connections of people in US – nope
    “Shallow state” – nope
    Republican campaign strategy – nope
    “Rotting in the fields” – nope
    Trolling Tyler Cowen – nope
    Punk or new wave rock (e.g. The Clash) – nope
    Hate hoaxes – nope
    Rape hoaxes – nope
    Gypsies – nope
    Consanguinity – nope (that we know of)
    White football players – nope
    Flight from white – nope
    Occam’s Butterknife – nope
    PISA scores – nope
    The Man Who Would Be King – nope
    Iran’s “War machine” (going way back) – nope
    Japan as a place vs. as a Wall Street moneymaker – nope
    LA Homicides – there is a connection, especially relating to the high school violinist whose family he met.

    ……and many, many more.

    The point of this is Steve has many, many interests. A lot of them are intertwined, but no one post can capture the sheer volume of topics Steve Sailer finds interesting.

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  94. Halvorson says:

    My top concern in this murder is that we get a hold of the narrative early and not let Swede-bashing get out of hand as it often does in cases such as this. Here are the simple facts:

    Swedes comprise 9.5% of the population of the Minnesota as of the 2010 census. There are more Irish than Swedes, especially in Minneapolis, and almost twice as many Hispanics.

    Norwegians are NOT Swedes. Minnesota, particularly western Minnesota, is much more Norwegian than it is Swedish. It was a Norwegian guy who went crazy and murdered all those socialist teenagers on their island. It was a Norwegian guy who went crazy and burned down all those old churches and stabbed that rock musician to death. PewDiePie is a Swede. This is an important difference.

    Scandinavians in Minnesota are outdoorsy country people, over-represented as farmers, rodeo stars, and other classically heterosexual professions. Lutheran Social Services, which brought the Somalis to Minnesota, receives 89 percent of his funding from government sources. Fridtjof Engebretson did not bring the goddamned Somalis here, some other jerk did!

    When will the bigotry END?!

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  95. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @The Only Catholic Unionist
    How did this break through the media's THL to become a national story? A white woman killed by a Muslim ... nothing to see here, deplorable h8ers, move along ...

    (THL = Tight, hard lid)

    It probably matters somewhat that the deceased is a quite attractive 40 year old woman (much more attractive than most women her age). She seems like the sort of woman many leftist female journalists imagine themselves being at that age.

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  96. Anonym says:
    @JimS
    Come on, look at all the boxes it didn't check:

    Sailer's Law of Female Journalism - nope
    Lack of white Americans competing in professional basketball - nope
    Georgia's aggression in the invasion of South Ossetia - nope
    Steroids (including many sub-topics: Andrew Sullivan, Tiger Woods, baseball, etc.) - nope
    Race as a partially inbred extended family - nope
    Rusty Staub's private life - nope
    Invade the world - nope
    Invite the world - ok, yeah
    In hock to the world - nope (been a long time for some of these posts)
    Black actor representation in Academy Awards - nope
    Lack of Hispanic actors or demand therefor - nope
    Affordable family formation - nope
    Adventuresses - nope (I don't think...)
    Silicon Valley Eugenics - nope
    Ownership of Los Angeles sports teams - nope
    World War G/T/?? - nope
    SPLC - nope
    Carlos Slim -nope
    Jared Diamond and race -nope
    Genius T Coates or Henry Louis Gates - nope
    Great White Defendant or other Bonfire reference - nope
    Indian (Native American) or genetic alcoholism - nope
    Kahneman trick questions - nope
    Interracial marriage rates - nope
    IQ map hoaxes - nope
    Closing "the gap" - maybe, for relaxing standards to hire the officer. We'll see.
    Israeli espionage - nope
    Who? Whom? - Ok, this is very likely
    Sports Stars' skin whitening - nope
    Gentrification - nope
    Prop 187 (1994) vs. 1992 for California going Democrat - nope
    Sailer vs. Freakonomics - nope
    Tiger Mothers - nope
    Social mobility and English/Norman names - nope
    San Fernando Valley private high schools - nope
    SAT and education overhauls (e.g. Common Core) - nope
    Bush/minority subprime lending - nope
    Mortgage meltdown in general - nope
    CIA connections of people in US - nope
    "Shallow state" - nope
    Republican campaign strategy - nope
    "Rotting in the fields" - nope
    Trolling Tyler Cowen - nope
    Punk or new wave rock (e.g. The Clash) - nope
    Hate hoaxes - nope
    Rape hoaxes - nope
    Gypsies - nope
    Consanguinity - nope (that we know of)
    White football players - nope
    Flight from white - nope
    Occam's Butterknife - nope
    PISA scores - nope
    The Man Who Would Be King - nope
    Iran's "War machine" (going way back) - nope
    Japan as a place vs. as a Wall Street moneymaker - nope
    LA Homicides - there is a connection, especially relating to the high school violinist whose family he met.

    ......and many, many more.


    The point of this is Steve has many, many interests. A lot of them are intertwined, but no one post can capture the sheer volume of topics Steve Sailer finds interesting.

    Ok, let’s see your counter-proposal for 2017 iSteve story of the year. One story can’t achieve iSteve intersectionality on every possible point. At least, I don’t think it can. I still think this one’s pretty good.

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  97. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Wasn’t this same Somali cop the subject of a “60 Minutes” segment a few years ago (or it might have been another CBS News show)? I missed the NPR story about him– Thin Blue Line indeed. Are Somalis known for showing interest in that career? Meaning, they don’t show much interest in it in Somalia

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  98. utu says:
    @George
    Why is that Somali get in this country? Oh yeah, global war on terror. I forgot. Support the troops. These colors don't run ...

    Always treat a gun like it is loaded, especially if it is loaded

    Cop Shoots himself in the leg - YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0

    Safety First
    Does a video capture a DEA agent who accidentally shot himself while conducting a presentation on gun safety?

    http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/gunsafety.asp

    Fresno County Sheriff’s Sergeant Rod Lucas died in October while talking with a detective about how to carry their backup weapons.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4705892/Detective-accidentally-shot-colleague-charged.html#ixzz4nA0xIQIU

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  99. Who trained Noor? Chief Wiggum?

    “You missed the baby, you missed the blind man…”

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  100. Jack D says:
    @George Weinbaum
    Is Noor the Major Hasan of the MPD?
    Did he mutter "Allahu Akbar" before shooting Diamond?
    Will the MPD find some way to excuse this?

    Magic 8 Ball says no, no and no. I’m guessing incompetence rather than sudden jihad syndrome. I don’t think that the cops are going to talk their way out of this one and Officer Noor is going down. He will lose his job and get charged and probably convicted of negligent homicide at a minimum. It’s one thing to convince a jury that you had a reasonable fear that a black man was going for a weapon but this is a bridge too far.

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  101. Bill B. says:
    @Barnard
    The Minneapolis Star Tribune has been surprisingly up front about the details considering how hard they usually push The Narrative. They even reprinted Mark Dayton's quote from the Castille shooting about how this would never happen to a white person.

    http://www.startribune.com/what-we-know-about-mohamed-noor-minneapolis-police-officer-who-fatally-shot-justine-damond/435018163/

    Based on what I have read so far, Half Canadian's theory sounds plausible. She was on the phone with the dispatcher and approached the car, Noor was startled and just shot her. Total incompetence from an officer who never should have been admitted to the academy is the most likely answer. Justine Damond was sacrificed for diversity.

    What on earth does this mean from the Star Tribune report?

    An evaluator sent to observe Noor interacting with his son concluded that he never raised his voice and that his “even keel and calm demeanor may have ultimately been responsible” for calming the agitated child down.

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    Noor was going thru a divorce and the court sent an evaluator to help determine custody. It's not unusual. Has little to do with the shooting but falls in the category of "what we know about Noor" so they printed it - better than nothing.
    , @Alden
    The evaluator is standard for any divorce with kids. Usually mama charges physical or emotional abuse. usually daddy charges mama's boyfriend with abuse. Its a massive job program for black and Hispanic women to become counselors to evaluate if dad is an abuser.

    No matter how much you hate your spouse, don't do it. Ladies, it can backfire badly.
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  102. Jack D says:
    @J1234
    The latest details I've seen on this story now make me wonder if this might be an act of terrorism on the part of the immigrant Muslim cop. I was thinking that there was some sort of confrontation between her and the cop, but apparently she walked up to the cruiser and was giving the officer nearest her some information about the complaint when the the other cop in the far seat just drew his gun and shot her for no apparent reason.

    I don't know if that's accurate or not, but that's what the news report I saw claimed. Or maybe she told the officers that Somalis (lots of the them in the Twin Cities) were involved in the assault she'd reported and the immigrant cop was offended.

    Chances are that the initial news reports are inaccurate and incomplete as they usually are. The chances are even greater that the scenario that you spin out of thin air is completely wrong. Most likely it was simple incompetence.

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    Most likely it was simple incompetence.
     
    Whew, what a relief.
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  103. Bill B. says:
    @utu
    I agree that lowering standards of hiring due to affirmative action and actually not letting top scoring candidates in is part of the problem.

    Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

    However the police corruption, their poor training and attitude of being above the law precedes the mandates of affirmative action. The culture, the rule of engagement better suited for a combat zone than modern western society makes killing and getting away with it just too easy for police.

    We do not know the details and probably won't know them as the cameras were off. But I would not exclude the possibility that the Australian woman made the mistake of thinking she was still in Australia and was too causal and possibly showing "an attitude" that is not tolerated by American police and may result in death or severe bodily harm.

    I would not exclude the possibility that the Australian woman made the mistake of thinking she was still in Australia and was too causal and possibly showing “an attitude”

    That would be my guess; the Star Tribune reports she was talking to the cops. The shooting, if this report is at all accurate, appears to be the result of Noor reacting badly to something said by the lady.

    “Sources identified Noor’s partner on the scene, who did not fire any shots, as officer Matthew Harrity, 25, who earned his peace officer’s license last year. A spokeswoman for the BCA confirmed there was no weapon found at the scene, creating even more mystery about how Damond’s call to police ended in one of the responding officers fatally shooting her…

    Damond, in her pajamas, went to the driver’s side door of the responding squad and was talking to the officer, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the case.

    Moments later, Noor shot across his partner from the passenger’s seat, killing Damond.”

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    The shooting, if this report is at all accurate, appears to be the result of Noor reacting badly to something said by the lady.
     
    The Daily Mail now says that she was reporting an active sexual assault in the back alley.

    Perhaps he didn't like how she described the suspect. Perhaps it sounded like one of his cousins.

    , @Jack D
    You are jumping to conclusions. Not even bad cops shoot people because they don't like what they are saying. Usually it is because they think that the person is going for a gun. Cops are rarely convicted because in most cases, it is not unreasonable (even if sometimes wrong) for a cop to imagine that someone is going for a gun, but in this case I doubt that will hold up.
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  104. Jack D says:
    @Bill B.
    What on earth does this mean from the Star Tribune report?

    An evaluator sent to observe Noor interacting with his son concluded that he never raised his voice and that his "even keel and calm demeanor may have ultimately been responsible" for calming the agitated child down.
     

    Noor was going thru a divorce and the court sent an evaluator to help determine custody. It’s not unusual. Has little to do with the shooting but falls in the category of “what we know about Noor” so they printed it – better than nothing.

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  105. Herzog says:

    In the photo showing his handshake with the regular Black cop, Mr. Muslim Noor is wearing gloves. Unless he had eczema, what the heck is going on with the guy?

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    White gloves are part of the dress uniform of many police forces. It appears that Noor has just graduated or been sworn in and is still wearing (part of) his dress uniform in the photo.

    Wearing gloves when touching infidel men is not part of Muslim religious practice.

    I really can't believe how far off base people are getting here just because Noor is a Somali Muslim. Bad cops come in all races and religions - it's not like this is part of some trend of crazed Muslim cops. Noor appeared to be well integrated into American society and at this point there doesn't seem to be any reason to think that there was any racial or religious angle to this at all. People here criticize BLM for jumping to conclusions but when the tables are turned they are just as bad.
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  106. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Bill B.

    I would not exclude the possibility that the Australian woman made the mistake of thinking she was still in Australia and was too causal and possibly showing “an attitude”

     

    That would be my guess; the Star Tribune reports she was talking to the cops. The shooting, if this report is at all accurate, appears to be the result of Noor reacting badly to something said by the lady.

    "Sources identified Noor's partner on the scene, who did not fire any shots, as officer Matthew Harrity, 25, who earned his peace officer's license last year. A spokeswoman for the BCA confirmed there was no weapon found at the scene, creating even more mystery about how Damond's call to police ended in one of the responding officers fatally shooting her...

    Damond, in her pajamas, went to the driver's side door of the responding squad and was talking to the officer, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the case.

    Moments later, Noor shot across his partner from the passenger's seat, killing Damond."

     

    The shooting, if this report is at all accurate, appears to be the result of Noor reacting badly to something said by the lady.

    The Daily Mail now says that she was reporting an active sexual assault in the back alley.

    Perhaps he didn’t like how she described the suspect. Perhaps it sounded like one of his cousins.

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  107. Jack D says:
    @Bill B.

    I would not exclude the possibility that the Australian woman made the mistake of thinking she was still in Australia and was too causal and possibly showing “an attitude”

     

    That would be my guess; the Star Tribune reports she was talking to the cops. The shooting, if this report is at all accurate, appears to be the result of Noor reacting badly to something said by the lady.

    "Sources identified Noor's partner on the scene, who did not fire any shots, as officer Matthew Harrity, 25, who earned his peace officer's license last year. A spokeswoman for the BCA confirmed there was no weapon found at the scene, creating even more mystery about how Damond's call to police ended in one of the responding officers fatally shooting her...

    Damond, in her pajamas, went to the driver's side door of the responding squad and was talking to the officer, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the case.

    Moments later, Noor shot across his partner from the passenger's seat, killing Damond."

     

    You are jumping to conclusions. Not even bad cops shoot people because they don’t like what they are saying. Usually it is because they think that the person is going for a gun. Cops are rarely convicted because in most cases, it is not unreasonable (even if sometimes wrong) for a cop to imagine that someone is going for a gun, but in this case I doubt that will hold up.

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  108. @utu
    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity. The fact that the guy is black and immigrant is of no importance. However the iSteve commentariat may see him as a positive example of assimilation and acculturation into American culture and its police subculture, in particular.

    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity.

    You’ve got to be kidding. What possible kind of training could have helped? This has to be a psychotic episode of some kind imo. A quick DuckDuckGo search turned up:

    Psychoses, PTSD, and depression in Somali refugees in Minnesota
    Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology
    June 2011, Volume 46, Issue 6, pp 481–493

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00127-010-0216-0

    “Initial clinical observation of Somali patients seen at a busy inner-city community clinic (CUHCC) suggested that, in addition to the expected pictures of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and depression previously seen in the clinic’s Southeast Asian refugee population from 1980 to 2000, there was an unusually high number of young Somali men presenting with acute psychotic disturbances.”

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    A lot of autism among Somalis in Minnesota too. I don't remember why.
    , @Jack D
    I don't know why people here keep speculating (based on absolutely nothing) on psychosis, autism, jihad, etc. when just plain old fashioned incompetence is a plenty sufficient explanation. There have been plenty of incidents where cops shot people for no good reason and the cop was neither insane nor motivated by race, religion, the provocative sleepwear of the victim, etc. - just jumpy because (among other things) their training emphasizes that you should shoot people before they can get the drop on you and (up until now) very rarely are cops every convicted for such bad shoots so there is little downside to doing so. So on one side of the scale the cop has the (somewhat rational) fear of dying and on the other side very little fear of punishment for an "honest mistake". Any normal human being in this situation would be more likely to shoot given this incentive structure. If all cab drivers or convenience store clerks were armed and given impunity to shoot their passengers or customers, then you'd see a lot more shootings in those professions (which BTW are just as dangerous as being a cop) but (1) in big cities it's hard to get a carry permit and (2) if a cabby "mistakenly" shoots a passenger who he (wrongly) thinks is going for a gun, he is going to do hard time - no one is going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Only cops get this unique combination of carry + impunity in our society. The fact that AA has reduced the quality of the average cop probably hasn't helped but I'm not sure that itchy trigger fingers are particularly linked with intelligence. Most of the cops involved in shootings (including this one) seem to be within the range of normal intelligence.
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  109. @Tim Howells

    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity.
     
    You've got to be kidding. What possible kind of training could have helped? This has to be a psychotic episode of some kind imo. A quick DuckDuckGo search turned up:

    Psychoses, PTSD, and depression in Somali refugees in Minnesota
    Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology
    June 2011, Volume 46, Issue 6, pp 481–493
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00127-010-0216-0

    "Initial clinical observation of Somali patients seen at a busy inner-city community clinic (CUHCC) suggested that, in addition to the expected pictures of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and depression previously seen in the clinic’s Southeast Asian refugee population from 1980 to 2000, there was an unusually high number of young Somali men presenting with acute psychotic disturbances."

    A lot of autism among Somalis in Minnesota too. I don’t remember why.

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    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    Inbreeding!
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    I don’t remember why.

    White racism is the cause.

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  110. The irony of this is when people make fun of conservatives and libertarians for thinking there are too many laws, liberals will tell them to go to Somalia.

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  111. The usually equanimous Scott McConnell is angry:

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  112. @Steve Sailer
    A lot of autism among Somalis in Minnesota too. I don't remember why.

    Steve, I assume you mean the bad, learning-disabled autism–not the good, Trump-memeing autism, right?

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  113. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I think the pig (I'm assuming that is doubly offensive in his case) will have more Pokémon points since she had blonde hair and came from an English speaking country.

    Therefore, this unfortunate gun going off incident will be memory holed, beginning, now!

    Actually it was a prominent story on the news on NPR’s Morning Edition this morning. It might actually have some legs:

    http://www.npr.org/2017/07/18/537861230/minneapolis-officers-failed-to-turn-on-body-cameras-before-fatal-shooting

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  114. sb says:
    @The Only Catholic Unionist
    How did this break through the media's THL to become a national story? A white woman killed by a Muslim ... nothing to see here, deplorable h8ers, move along ...

    (THL = Tight, hard lid)

    This story was always bound to get a lot of coverage in Australia where all the media outlets have sent their USA correspondents to the scene. I expect the story will run for a while here /there

    The victim is a middle class woman -a trained veterinarian come yoga new age teacher -who moved to the US for romance ( The alternative of her fiancé moving to Australia would have problems because there is an American adult son in the picture )
    Plus it satisfies a certain Australian view of US society regardless of any racial angle ie police shoot first and ask questions later .

    While I’m here another news item with Australian content today may be of interest :

    A Senator in the Australian Parliament declared herself a non Senator today as she says she has just found she also has Canadian citizenship and under the Australian Constitution dual citizens are ineligible to be in Parliament .
    She is a Green Party rep which is the leftist party possible on all the usual issues including open borders .
    Anyway she was born in Canada and left before she turned one and has never been back and claimed that she was under the impression that she had to make a claim for Canadian citizenship on her majority to be a Canadian which she chose not to do

    Her comment was that it is “really weird ” that simply being born in Canada of Australian parents and having no other ties to that country would make you a Canadian citizen .

    Hard to disagree

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  115. @Jack Hanson
    Tamir Rice pointed his real looking toy pistol at the police. How many rounds should he be allowed to fire before the police confirm its an actual pistol?

    The fact that Castile, gang member who maybe at one time held a CCW in another county and couldn't follow directions while smoking weed with his kid in the car, is such a cause celebre among libertarians only underlines how they should be kept away from the actual levers of power.

    Just gonna throw it out here but maybe policing ain't like Maybury RFD.

    How many rounds should he be allowed to fire before the police confirm its an actual pistol?

    Enough to prove an actual threat. Better a cop be killed than an innocent citizen.

    Castile, couldn’t follow directions

    Castile was following the directions to produce his driver’s license. He was not reaching for his legally carried firearm.

    Again, citizens in the US have the right to go armed. If the cops cannot handle this, then they need to quit and find honest work. Better 1000 dead cops than one citizen having his rights or safety harmed by a cop.

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    All we need to do is remove the impunity that we have been giving to cops - they should be held to the same standard as cab drivers or convenience store clerks. The idea that you can just shoot someone because they make a "sudden movement" or "appear to be reaching for a (non-existent) weapon" is nuts. If a cabby (a more dangerous profession than cop, BTW) did that kind of thing to someone who turned out to be unarmed, he'd be doing 25 to life for murder.
    , @Jack Hanson
    Oh right. Youre the guy who is still mad at those stupid jocks from high school who stuffed you in your locker and can't figure out that US citizens don't have the right to point firearms at the police or grab for guns after they're told not to.

    Carry on.
    , @EdwardM

    Better a cop be killed than an innocent citizen. . . Better 1000 dead cops than one citizen having his rights or safety harmed by a cop.
     
    Agreed. There are doctrines at all levels of law enforcement in the U.S. -- that anyone with even the vaguest job description of "law enforcement" (e.g., regulatory police in Federal agencies) must carry guns, that they must shoot to kill (i.e., once they decide to shoot, keep going until the person is dead), and that cops have an even stronger presumption of innocence when using deadly force than civilians -- that we could rationally re-think as a society in consideration of the trade-offs you mention.

    Why not equip police with tasers? I am sympathetic to the argument that there are feral populations in this country that can only be kept in check by brute force, but that applies to only a handful of jurisdictions. I don't think a semi-suburban area in Minneapolis is one of them.

    I am a right-wing libertarian who carries a firearm legally (and sometimes in gray areas when forced to "pass through" a state with more restrictive laws) and I fear incompetent, hyper-aggressive, immune police more than street criminals.
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  116. @Whiskey
    A couple of things: 1. Alt Right S-Lords will be sure to tell everyone they know about the perp being a Somali Muslim named Noor and the victim a pretty blonde woman from Australia about to be married; and the dissonance by the media memory holing the identities and the truth easily seen on the Daily Mail will create ... more S-Lords.

    2. The commenter saying Whites must invoke FEAR among the authorities is correct. Any rioting will not be tolerated and protected by Blacks, but action doxxing, revealing, and publicizing the officials involved including any and all family members and friends for this affair MUST happen as Kevin Michael Grace recently suggested regarding the doxxing threat of some media woman or things will only get WORSE.

    For every one of ours killed, twenty of theirs must be doxxed and ruined. I find the probability close to 1 that most of the family and friends of the police officials who hired, trained, and covered for Noor are corrupt and involved in illegal and corrupt things. Look at Bernie Sanders, man of the People, who paid cash for his $750,000 summer beach house in Maine, and his corrupt bureaucrat wife who evicted disabled people to make way for her failing college's building in a real estate deal that went bust and fradulently cost the state and feds millions, with help from Sander's Senate office.

    Sanders is probably the LEAST corrupt of them -- so lets get looking!

    3. This seemed a pre-meditated murder of a White person as revenge for Philando Castille: the body cams of both officers were turned off as were the squad car cams, BEFORE the incident. The cop shot through the door, and presumably had shot his weapon at the firing range knowing how loud that was. Shooting in a car is very bad idea if any alternatives are about. The victim was a pretty blonde woman who looked as threatening as say, your average blonde yoga instructor: threat level 0 from 1-10.

    4. The perp Noor needs a good doxxing, as does his family, sponsors, and the rest. In addition, it is time for a class action lawsuit against his sponsors to conduct LAWFARE against them for importing a murderer who killed someone costing taxpayers lots and lots of money. In addition, there should be protesters at both the Noor family residences and particularly, the SPONSORS and church services of the sponsoring organization (slam dunk it was the Lutherans) should regularly be disrupted so the parishoners are either made angry that they are sponsoring that or simply driven away by intimidation.

    Non White men have claimed everything in a dog-like dominance display: White women, their lives, White men's lives, property, pretty much everything they figure belongs to them and the only way to deal with it is counter dominance displays. That means not tolerating anything and making people AFRAID to cross Whites for fear of punishment like Doxxing which is not illegal. Groveling to make them love us has failed for fifty years. Time for project FEAR.

    Every incompetent, sudden jihad syndrome rage filled immigrant should know that there are consequences -- an "Army of Davids" to quote Glenn Reynolds comes after not just them but family and friends and keeps coming. Forever.

    the body cams of both officers were turned off as were the squad car cams, BEFORE the incident

    Typically both the body cams and car cams must be turned ON before they operate. Usually squad car cams only turn on when the emergency lights/siren are turned on. They can also be turned on manually. Body cams usually must be turned on as well. Otherwise during a normal shift you will run out of storage space and you will get lots of footage of the cop in the bathroom or sleeping in his car.

    If they had rolled up cold to this alley, there is no reason for the squad cam to be on.

    When you see cops getting in trouble for turning cameras off it is usually after a chase when the cameras automatically activated and the cop turns them off so he can act as judge and jury.

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    In a lot of cities, the cameras run all the time on a loop. Memory storage is incredibly cheap nowadays so you can store many hours of video for next to nothing. Once the card is full it overwrites the oldest recordings. After a shooting and its aftermath, you stop the camera so that the recording doesn't overwrite (it would take many hours to do so). Even in MN, the camera is actually running and recording all the time so that if the cop presses the button it has the last 30 seconds captured retroactively.

    What happened in MN is that the cops actively resisted the body cams and faced no consequences. The cops there have been running their cameras less than 5% of the time so there was a 95% chance that they would not be recording. Liberal pussies are liberal pussies - they won't face down cops any more than they would face down criminals. I'm sure the publicity from this incident will change that and they will force the cops to run their camera all the time as is done in other cities.
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    What are you saying white people will be rioting? Smart ass punk

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  118. @Opinionator
    The only concrete statement the BCA has made so far is to confirm that ‘At one point an officer fired their weapon, fatally striking a woman’.

    "their" weapon.

    “their” weapon.

    Idiotic gender neutral usage.

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  119. Jack D says:
    @Tim Howells

    Another story of American police poor training, irresponsibility and impunity.
     
    You've got to be kidding. What possible kind of training could have helped? This has to be a psychotic episode of some kind imo. A quick DuckDuckGo search turned up:

    Psychoses, PTSD, and depression in Somali refugees in Minnesota
    Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology
    June 2011, Volume 46, Issue 6, pp 481–493
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00127-010-0216-0

    "Initial clinical observation of Somali patients seen at a busy inner-city community clinic (CUHCC) suggested that, in addition to the expected pictures of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and depression previously seen in the clinic’s Southeast Asian refugee population from 1980 to 2000, there was an unusually high number of young Somali men presenting with acute psychotic disturbances."

    I don’t know why people here keep speculating (based on absolutely nothing) on psychosis, autism, jihad, etc. when just plain old fashioned incompetence is a plenty sufficient explanation. There have been plenty of incidents where cops shot people for no good reason and the cop was neither insane nor motivated by race, religion, the provocative sleepwear of the victim, etc. – just jumpy because (among other things) their training emphasizes that you should shoot people before they can get the drop on you and (up until now) very rarely are cops every convicted for such bad shoots so there is little downside to doing so. So on one side of the scale the cop has the (somewhat rational) fear of dying and on the other side very little fear of punishment for an “honest mistake”. Any normal human being in this situation would be more likely to shoot given this incentive structure. If all cab drivers or convenience store clerks were armed and given impunity to shoot their passengers or customers, then you’d see a lot more shootings in those professions (which BTW are just as dangerous as being a cop) but (1) in big cities it’s hard to get a carry permit and (2) if a cabby “mistakenly” shoots a passenger who he (wrongly) thinks is going for a gun, he is going to do hard time – no one is going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Only cops get this unique combination of carry + impunity in our society. The fact that AA has reduced the quality of the average cop probably hasn’t helped but I’m not sure that itchy trigger fingers are particularly linked with intelligence. Most of the cops involved in shootings (including this one) seem to be within the range of normal intelligence.

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    Thanks for being rational. Rationality goes out of the window when a race enters. That's what Steve Sailer does. That's why he has so many commenters. People love to hate.
    , @Tim Howells
    What we know so far is that a nice white woman was talking calmly with his partner when this guy suddenly whipped out his gun and started blasting away over his "stunned" partner and through the car door, killing her. If this sounds to you like the behavior of a perfectly sane cop of normal intelligence, I wonder how you dare to walk out your front door. Admittedly info is sketchy at this point, but either there is much more to this story, or this guy was nuts. My guess is he was nuts, which seems to be a common problem among young Somali males in Minnesota. We'll see.
    , @anarchyst
    It's IMMUNITY, not "impunity"...
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  120. WR says:
    @PiltdownMan
    I'm counting down the hours to the inevitable story about how two immigrants seeking new lives found their paths intersecting. And how one of them had it easy, with a fast lane into white suburban life as a yoga guru, and the other struggled heroically against bias to seek out honor and express his gratitude to his newfound home in a career as a public servant.

    It’s very likely that such a story will be written within the next 72 hours. The leftist MSM is entirely predictable. Should anybody in our commentariat find an article that follows the guidelines set by PiltdownMan, please let Steve know.

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  121. Jack D says:
    @Chris Mallory

    the body cams of both officers were turned off as were the squad car cams, BEFORE the incident
     
    Typically both the body cams and car cams must be turned ON before they operate. Usually squad car cams only turn on when the emergency lights/siren are turned on. They can also be turned on manually. Body cams usually must be turned on as well. Otherwise during a normal shift you will run out of storage space and you will get lots of footage of the cop in the bathroom or sleeping in his car.

    If they had rolled up cold to this alley, there is no reason for the squad cam to be on.

    When you see cops getting in trouble for turning cameras off it is usually after a chase when the cameras automatically activated and the cop turns them off so he can act as judge and jury.

    In a lot of cities, the cameras run all the time on a loop. Memory storage is incredibly cheap nowadays so you can store many hours of video for next to nothing. Once the card is full it overwrites the oldest recordings. After a shooting and its aftermath, you stop the camera so that the recording doesn’t overwrite (it would take many hours to do so). Even in MN, the camera is actually running and recording all the time so that if the cop presses the button it has the last 30 seconds captured retroactively.

    What happened in MN is that the cops actively resisted the body cams and faced no consequences. The cops there have been running their cameras less than 5% of the time so there was a 95% chance that they would not be recording. Liberal pussies are liberal pussies – they won’t face down cops any more than they would face down criminals. I’m sure the publicity from this incident will change that and they will force the cops to run their camera all the time as is done in other cities.

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  122. Jack D says:
    @Chris Mallory

    How many rounds should he be allowed to fire before the police confirm its an actual pistol?
     
    Enough to prove an actual threat. Better a cop be killed than an innocent citizen.


    Castile, couldn’t follow directions
     
    Castile was following the directions to produce his driver's license. He was not reaching for his legally carried firearm.

    Again, citizens in the US have the right to go armed. If the cops cannot handle this, then they need to quit and find honest work. Better 1000 dead cops than one citizen having his rights or safety harmed by a cop.

    All we need to do is remove the impunity that we have been giving to cops – they should be held to the same standard as cab drivers or convenience store clerks. The idea that you can just shoot someone because they make a “sudden movement” or “appear to be reaching for a (non-existent) weapon” is nuts. If a cabby (a more dangerous profession than cop, BTW) did that kind of thing to someone who turned out to be unarmed, he’d be doing 25 to life for murder.

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    Absolutely 100% agree.
    , @anarchyst
    Also, any awards to citizens for police misconduct should come out of the police pension fund--NOT from the municipal general fund.
    You would see things get "cleaned up" in a hurry if their pension funds were threatened.
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  123. utu says:
    @Jack D
    I don't know why people here keep speculating (based on absolutely nothing) on psychosis, autism, jihad, etc. when just plain old fashioned incompetence is a plenty sufficient explanation. There have been plenty of incidents where cops shot people for no good reason and the cop was neither insane nor motivated by race, religion, the provocative sleepwear of the victim, etc. - just jumpy because (among other things) their training emphasizes that you should shoot people before they can get the drop on you and (up until now) very rarely are cops every convicted for such bad shoots so there is little downside to doing so. So on one side of the scale the cop has the (somewhat rational) fear of dying and on the other side very little fear of punishment for an "honest mistake". Any normal human being in this situation would be more likely to shoot given this incentive structure. If all cab drivers or convenience store clerks were armed and given impunity to shoot their passengers or customers, then you'd see a lot more shootings in those professions (which BTW are just as dangerous as being a cop) but (1) in big cities it's hard to get a carry permit and (2) if a cabby "mistakenly" shoots a passenger who he (wrongly) thinks is going for a gun, he is going to do hard time - no one is going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Only cops get this unique combination of carry + impunity in our society. The fact that AA has reduced the quality of the average cop probably hasn't helped but I'm not sure that itchy trigger fingers are particularly linked with intelligence. Most of the cops involved in shootings (including this one) seem to be within the range of normal intelligence.

    Thanks for being rational. Rationality goes out of the window when a race enters. That’s what Steve Sailer does. That’s why he has so many commenters. People love to hate.

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    It's not pretty when BLM or leftists do it and it's not any prettier when it's done from the right. People need to calm the F down and wait for the facts to come out before they jump to wild conclusions.
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  124. Jack D says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Tamir Rice pointed his real looking toy pistol at the police. How many rounds should he be allowed to fire before the police confirm its an actual pistol?

    The fact that Castile, gang member who maybe at one time held a CCW in another county and couldn't follow directions while smoking weed with his kid in the car, is such a cause celebre among libertarians only underlines how they should be kept away from the actual levers of power.

    Just gonna throw it out here but maybe policing ain't like Maybury RFD.

    The cop shot Tamir Rice within 2 seconds of arriving on the scene. Literally two seconds. I think he should have weighed the matter for at least say 5 or 10 seconds before he decided to end someone’s life. They could have stopped some distance away and spoken to him from their bullhorns. There are a lot of things they could have done other than shooting a 12 year old boy in 2 seconds flat.

    The fact that Castile may have been smoking weed with a child in the car is completely irrelevant. We don’t have the death penalty for smoking weed. All this was was an effort to slander the victim. Listen to the Castile recording – he did absolutely everything right. He was calm and coherent and respectful and told the cop that he had a legal weapon and the cop murdered him anyway.

    Policing isn’t Mayberry but it’s not the most dangerous profession either – driving a cab is more dangerous but we don’t give cabbies license to just shoot people because they make them nervous.

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    It doesn't matter how long he had been on scene - the moment Saint Rice pointed his pistol at the police they were justified in shooting him. The fact that observer "Jack D", posting comfortably in his underwear thinks they should have waited is irrelevant.

    Speaking of relevant and irrelevant, the fact Castille was a thug is totally relevant, and the fact that you don't like it doesn't make it irrelevant. It all reflects on his character and history of behavior (to say nothing of the fact he was a close ringer if not the stick up man in a local robbery). That is the hill you have chosen to die on. L O L.

    Finally, the cabbie comparison is so ridiculous as an apples to hand grenades comparison I'm not surprised its constantly bandied about by lolbertarians. We don't give cabbies the ability to enforce laws against people who, for some reason, might not want to be caught.

    Nurse that grudge against those stupid jocks tho. You're totally not sounding like an unhinged maniac banging on about how the gilt on the flag means you are a sovereign nation and therefore under zero compulsion to follow any laws.

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  125. Jack D says:
    @utu
    Thanks for being rational. Rationality goes out of the window when a race enters. That's what Steve Sailer does. That's why he has so many commenters. People love to hate.

    It’s not pretty when BLM or leftists do it and it’s not any prettier when it’s done from the right. People need to calm the F down and wait for the facts to come out before they jump to wild conclusions.

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  126. Jack D says:
    @Herzog
    In the photo showing his handshake with the regular Black cop, Mr. Muslim Noor is wearing gloves. Unless he had eczema, what the heck is going on with the guy?

    White gloves are part of the dress uniform of many police forces. It appears that Noor has just graduated or been sworn in and is still wearing (part of) his dress uniform in the photo.

    Wearing gloves when touching infidel men is not part of Muslim religious practice.

    I really can’t believe how far off base people are getting here just because Noor is a Somali Muslim. Bad cops come in all races and religions – it’s not like this is part of some trend of crazed Muslim cops. Noor appeared to be well integrated into American society and at this point there doesn’t seem to be any reason to think that there was any racial or religious angle to this at all. People here criticize BLM for jumping to conclusions but when the tables are turned they are just as bad.

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  127. Alden says:
    @Bill B.
    What on earth does this mean from the Star Tribune report?

    An evaluator sent to observe Noor interacting with his son concluded that he never raised his voice and that his "even keel and calm demeanor may have ultimately been responsible" for calming the agitated child down.
     

    The evaluator is standard for any divorce with kids. Usually mama charges physical or emotional abuse. usually daddy charges mama’s boyfriend with abuse. Its a massive job program for black and Hispanic women to become counselors to evaluate if dad is an abuser.

    No matter how much you hate your spouse, don’t do it. Ladies, it can backfire badly.

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    Au contraire, in many states divorce can be very lucrative for women, especially if there are children. Most divorces are initiated by women because there are strong financial incentives for them to do so and the legal dice are loaded in favor of the female partner. It's terrible for children but women love the "empowerment".
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  128. Alden says:

    I could not see this because of the trees, but I heard it, hundreds of shots fired for about 30 minutes about 20 yards down the mountain from where I stood on the deck. Because of the huge windows, I got the dogs and myself into the garage as far away from the firing as possible.

    School let out right before the shooting started. The cops would not let anyone through but did nothing to protect the many kids and civilians in their cars along the streets. The kids got tired of waiting and worried about all the bullets flying so they went back and up the mountain to get home. But up there is where the mountain lion lives. But they made it.

    ERic Chang’s dangerous weapon was a gardening tool. Daly City SWAT team, what a joke. Daly City is one of the most peaceful low crime towns in California. Family is suing for wrongful death. I hope the Pacifica police are forced to lay off many of their uniformed tax collectors.
    Daly City police shoot, kill man after standoff in Pacifica – SFGate
    http://www.sfgate.com/crime/…/Daly-City-police-shoot-kill-man-after-standoff-5329745.ph…;

    Mar 19, 2014 – The incident is under investigation by Pacifica and Daly City police and … with Chang, and as Pacifica police asked the Daly City police SWAT …
    Missing: eric Chang
    Pacifica man shot by police hours after release of new officer-involved …
    http://www.mercurynews.com/…/pacifica-man-shot-by-police-hours-after-release-of-new-of…;

    Mar 19, 2014 – Errol Chang, 34, was fatally shot by a Daly City officer after he stabbed a … An hour later, Pacifica police descended on the house around the …
    Missing: eric
    Fix Pacifica: Pedro Point man killed by police yesterday after six-hour …
    fixpacifica.blogspot.com/2014/03/pedro-point-man-killed-by-police.html

    Mar 19, 2014 – San Mateo County Times/Eric Kurhi, 3/19/14. … Pacifica police were called to the 300 block of San Pedro Avenue when family members … The Daly City officer who shot Chang was placed on paid administrative leave per …

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  129. J1234 says:
    @Jack D
    Chances are that the initial news reports are inaccurate and incomplete as they usually are. The chances are even greater that the scenario that you spin out of thin air is completely wrong. Most likely it was simple incompetence.

    Most likely it was simple incompetence.

    Whew, what a relief.

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  130. Jack D says:
    @Alden
    The evaluator is standard for any divorce with kids. Usually mama charges physical or emotional abuse. usually daddy charges mama's boyfriend with abuse. Its a massive job program for black and Hispanic women to become counselors to evaluate if dad is an abuser.

    No matter how much you hate your spouse, don't do it. Ladies, it can backfire badly.

    Au contraire, in many states divorce can be very lucrative for women, especially if there are children. Most divorces are initiated by women because there are strong financial incentives for them to do so and the legal dice are loaded in favor of the female partner. It’s terrible for children but women love the “empowerment”.

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    Read my post. I did not say a word about child support and division of property. All I wrote is that many people in the midst of divorce charge some kind of abuse or unfitness. Divorce provides numerous jobs for affirmative action women as counselors and evaluators.

    Charging abuse and unfitness sometimes backfires on the party that made the charges.

    Before you try to start a fight, read the posts you want to fight about.
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  131. @Chris Mallory

    How many rounds should he be allowed to fire before the police confirm its an actual pistol?
     
    Enough to prove an actual threat. Better a cop be killed than an innocent citizen.


    Castile, couldn’t follow directions
     
    Castile was following the directions to produce his driver's license. He was not reaching for his legally carried firearm.

    Again, citizens in the US have the right to go armed. If the cops cannot handle this, then they need to quit and find honest work. Better 1000 dead cops than one citizen having his rights or safety harmed by a cop.

    Oh right. Youre the guy who is still mad at those stupid jocks from high school who stuffed you in your locker and can’t figure out that US citizens don’t have the right to point firearms at the police or grab for guns after they’re told not to.

    Carry on.

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  132. @Jack D
    I don't know why people here keep speculating (based on absolutely nothing) on psychosis, autism, jihad, etc. when just plain old fashioned incompetence is a plenty sufficient explanation. There have been plenty of incidents where cops shot people for no good reason and the cop was neither insane nor motivated by race, religion, the provocative sleepwear of the victim, etc. - just jumpy because (among other things) their training emphasizes that you should shoot people before they can get the drop on you and (up until now) very rarely are cops every convicted for such bad shoots so there is little downside to doing so. So on one side of the scale the cop has the (somewhat rational) fear of dying and on the other side very little fear of punishment for an "honest mistake". Any normal human being in this situation would be more likely to shoot given this incentive structure. If all cab drivers or convenience store clerks were armed and given impunity to shoot their passengers or customers, then you'd see a lot more shootings in those professions (which BTW are just as dangerous as being a cop) but (1) in big cities it's hard to get a carry permit and (2) if a cabby "mistakenly" shoots a passenger who he (wrongly) thinks is going for a gun, he is going to do hard time - no one is going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Only cops get this unique combination of carry + impunity in our society. The fact that AA has reduced the quality of the average cop probably hasn't helped but I'm not sure that itchy trigger fingers are particularly linked with intelligence. Most of the cops involved in shootings (including this one) seem to be within the range of normal intelligence.

    What we know so far is that a nice white woman was talking calmly with his partner when this guy suddenly whipped out his gun and started blasting away over his “stunned” partner and through the car door, killing her. If this sounds to you like the behavior of a perfectly sane cop of normal intelligence, I wonder how you dare to walk out your front door. Admittedly info is sketchy at this point, but either there is much more to this story, or this guy was nuts. My guess is he was nuts, which seems to be a common problem among young Somali males in Minnesota. We’ll see.

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    What we know so far is that a nice white woman was talking calmly with his partner when this guy suddenly whipped out his gun and started blasting away over his “stunned” partner and through the car door, killing her.
     
    Do we know that for sure?

    Perhaps she was giving him a piece of her mind and being racist. I mean, being racist is cause for execution, or so I have heard.
    , @Jack D
    Noor fired a single shot thru the door. If I had to guess now based on what little we know, he did not intend to shoot at all. Usually when cops intend to shoot someone, they shoot them a LOT. The 4 cops who killed him fired 41 bullets at Amadou Diallo (of which "only" 19 hit despite the fact that the cops were at close range), or 10 each. Nor is it normal for cops to shoot THROUGH a closed car door - the bullet could easily hit the very solid side impact beam that is inside every car door and not hit its target or even ricochet back at you.

    Perhaps Noor had drawn his gun in anticipation of finding the rapist and was putting it back in the holster (while not exercising proper trigger discipline). The real explanation will be something incredibly stupid and sloppy like that and not sudden insanity.

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  133. @Jack D
    The cop shot Tamir Rice within 2 seconds of arriving on the scene. Literally two seconds. I think he should have weighed the matter for at least say 5 or 10 seconds before he decided to end someone's life. They could have stopped some distance away and spoken to him from their bullhorns. There are a lot of things they could have done other than shooting a 12 year old boy in 2 seconds flat.

    The fact that Castile may have been smoking weed with a child in the car is completely irrelevant. We don't have the death penalty for smoking weed. All this was was an effort to slander the victim. Listen to the Castile recording - he did absolutely everything right. He was calm and coherent and respectful and told the cop that he had a legal weapon and the cop murdered him anyway.

    Policing isn't Mayberry but it's not the most dangerous profession either - driving a cab is more dangerous but we don't give cabbies license to just shoot people because they make them nervous.

    It doesn’t matter how long he had been on scene – the moment Saint Rice pointed his pistol at the police they were justified in shooting him. The fact that observer “Jack D”, posting comfortably in his underwear thinks they should have waited is irrelevant.

    Speaking of relevant and irrelevant, the fact Castille was a thug is totally relevant, and the fact that you don’t like it doesn’t make it irrelevant. It all reflects on his character and history of behavior (to say nothing of the fact he was a close ringer if not the stick up man in a local robbery). That is the hill you have chosen to die on. L O L.

    Finally, the cabbie comparison is so ridiculous as an apples to hand grenades comparison I’m not surprised its constantly bandied about by lolbertarians. We don’t give cabbies the ability to enforce laws against people who, for some reason, might not want to be caught.

    Nurse that grudge against those stupid jocks tho. You’re totally not sounding like an unhinged maniac banging on about how the gilt on the flag means you are a sovereign nation and therefore under zero compulsion to follow any laws.

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    If police officers were once jocks then they are mostly jocks who have gone to seed. The only thing that would make most cops over 40 (not that there are that many - usually they have faked some disability and are out on pension and holding a 2nd job by then) run is the sight of a donut truck.
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  134. @Steve Sailer
    A lot of autism among Somalis in Minnesota too. I don't remember why.

    Inbreeding!

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  135. Agree with some of the others. My first guess would be that Noor is an incompetent idiot who was ignoring the fundamentals of gun safety. Reminds me of the scene in Pulp Fiction where Travolta accidentally shoots the guy in the back seat. I may have been the only person in the theater who found that hilarious.

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  136. Jack D says:
    @Jack Hanson
    It doesn't matter how long he had been on scene - the moment Saint Rice pointed his pistol at the police they were justified in shooting him. The fact that observer "Jack D", posting comfortably in his underwear thinks they should have waited is irrelevant.

    Speaking of relevant and irrelevant, the fact Castille was a thug is totally relevant, and the fact that you don't like it doesn't make it irrelevant. It all reflects on his character and history of behavior (to say nothing of the fact he was a close ringer if not the stick up man in a local robbery). That is the hill you have chosen to die on. L O L.

    Finally, the cabbie comparison is so ridiculous as an apples to hand grenades comparison I'm not surprised its constantly bandied about by lolbertarians. We don't give cabbies the ability to enforce laws against people who, for some reason, might not want to be caught.

    Nurse that grudge against those stupid jocks tho. You're totally not sounding like an unhinged maniac banging on about how the gilt on the flag means you are a sovereign nation and therefore under zero compulsion to follow any laws.

    If police officers were once jocks then they are mostly jocks who have gone to seed. The only thing that would make most cops over 40 (not that there are that many – usually they have faked some disability and are out on pension and holding a 2nd job by then) run is the sight of a donut truck.

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    Still upset about wedgies. Thanks for confirming.
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  137. Partner of cop who fatally shot bride-to-be ‘was STUNNED when his colleague opened fire from inside their squad car’ as autopsy reveals she was killed by one bullet to the stomach after she called 911

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4707192/Australian-woman-died-single-shot-abdomen.html#ixzz4nDOLKWG9

    My headlines would be:

    MINNESOTA WOMAN SHOT BY SOMALIAN

    SOMALI REFUGEE KILLS MINNESOTA WOMAN

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  138. @Tim Howells
    What we know so far is that a nice white woman was talking calmly with his partner when this guy suddenly whipped out his gun and started blasting away over his "stunned" partner and through the car door, killing her. If this sounds to you like the behavior of a perfectly sane cop of normal intelligence, I wonder how you dare to walk out your front door. Admittedly info is sketchy at this point, but either there is much more to this story, or this guy was nuts. My guess is he was nuts, which seems to be a common problem among young Somali males in Minnesota. We'll see.

    What we know so far is that a nice white woman was talking calmly with his partner when this guy suddenly whipped out his gun and started blasting away over his “stunned” partner and through the car door, killing her.

    Do we know that for sure?

    Perhaps she was giving him a piece of her mind and being racist. I mean, being racist is cause for execution, or so I have heard.

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  139. @Jack D
    All we need to do is remove the impunity that we have been giving to cops - they should be held to the same standard as cab drivers or convenience store clerks. The idea that you can just shoot someone because they make a "sudden movement" or "appear to be reaching for a (non-existent) weapon" is nuts. If a cabby (a more dangerous profession than cop, BTW) did that kind of thing to someone who turned out to be unarmed, he'd be doing 25 to life for murder.

    Absolutely 100% agree.

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  140. @Jack D
    If police officers were once jocks then they are mostly jocks who have gone to seed. The only thing that would make most cops over 40 (not that there are that many - usually they have faked some disability and are out on pension and holding a 2nd job by then) run is the sight of a donut truck.

    Still upset about wedgies. Thanks for confirming.

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  141. Jack D says:
    @Tim Howells
    What we know so far is that a nice white woman was talking calmly with his partner when this guy suddenly whipped out his gun and started blasting away over his "stunned" partner and through the car door, killing her. If this sounds to you like the behavior of a perfectly sane cop of normal intelligence, I wonder how you dare to walk out your front door. Admittedly info is sketchy at this point, but either there is much more to this story, or this guy was nuts. My guess is he was nuts, which seems to be a common problem among young Somali males in Minnesota. We'll see.

    Noor fired a single shot thru the door. If I had to guess now based on what little we know, he did not intend to shoot at all. Usually when cops intend to shoot someone, they shoot them a LOT. The 4 cops who killed him fired 41 bullets at Amadou Diallo (of which “only” 19 hit despite the fact that the cops were at close range), or 10 each. Nor is it normal for cops to shoot THROUGH a closed car door – the bullet could easily hit the very solid side impact beam that is inside every car door and not hit its target or even ricochet back at you.

    Perhaps Noor had drawn his gun in anticipation of finding the rapist and was putting it back in the holster (while not exercising proper trigger discipline). The real explanation will be something incredibly stupid and sloppy like that and not sudden insanity.

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    People don't usually make 90 degree turns to their left, take their pistol out of its holster, undo the safety and then pull the trigger, accidentally. You have written a lot of words here, but have failed to address this basic and obvious point.
    , @Alden
    One shot killed her. Multiple shots were fired.
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  142. grapesoda says:
    @Jack D
    Noor fired a single shot thru the door. If I had to guess now based on what little we know, he did not intend to shoot at all. Usually when cops intend to shoot someone, they shoot them a LOT. The 4 cops who killed him fired 41 bullets at Amadou Diallo (of which "only" 19 hit despite the fact that the cops were at close range), or 10 each. Nor is it normal for cops to shoot THROUGH a closed car door - the bullet could easily hit the very solid side impact beam that is inside every car door and not hit its target or even ricochet back at you.

    Perhaps Noor had drawn his gun in anticipation of finding the rapist and was putting it back in the holster (while not exercising proper trigger discipline). The real explanation will be something incredibly stupid and sloppy like that and not sudden insanity.

    People don’t usually make 90 degree turns to their left, take their pistol out of its holster, undo the safety and then pull the trigger, accidentally. You have written a lot of words here, but have failed to address this basic and obvious point.

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    Especially those police holsters. There's a big flap and 3 snaps and the flap gets in the way of grasping the gun. They are designed that way to prevent accidental discharge.
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  143. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I’m just gonna throw this out there.

    What if our two coppers weren’t just patrolling around innocently before the incident? What if they were involved in illegal activities themselves or even entertaining a working girl? And what if they weren’t able to disengage from these activities before the Aussie pajama yogi showed up at the window and got an eyeful?

    Now assume Officer Mo made an instant executive decision that he wasn’t going to be caught with his pants down and eliminated the witness. Not exactly a bright move, but at least he then had the opportunity to craft his own narrative. In the ensuing chaos the offending materials or persons were made to disappear.

    I’m obviously making several leaps with this theory, but stay with me for a moment. It perfectly explains why both body cams as well as the vehicle camera were disabled. It explains why a perfectly harmless person would have to be killed- she held in her hands a cellphone which had photo and video capabilities. It explains Officer Mo’s inexplicable decision to fire upon a harmless citizen- she saw something she wasn’t supposed to see. And it explains why, at least as of this date, the authorities have released virtually zero information.

    Much depends upon Mo’s wheelman. Since he’s just survived multiple bullets flying in front of his nose courtesy of his partner, I’d bet he’s in no mood to continue the subterfuge.

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  144. @Steve Sailer
    A lot of autism among Somalis in Minnesota too. I don't remember why.

    I don’t remember why.

    White racism is the cause.

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  145. I don’t remember why.

    Racism.

    Does racial discrimination cause mental illness?

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  146. anarchyst says:
    @Jack D
    All we need to do is remove the impunity that we have been giving to cops - they should be held to the same standard as cab drivers or convenience store clerks. The idea that you can just shoot someone because they make a "sudden movement" or "appear to be reaching for a (non-existent) weapon" is nuts. If a cabby (a more dangerous profession than cop, BTW) did that kind of thing to someone who turned out to be unarmed, he'd be doing 25 to life for murder.

    Also, any awards to citizens for police misconduct should come out of the police pension fund–NOT from the municipal general fund.
    You would see things get “cleaned up” in a hurry if their pension funds were threatened.

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  147. anarchyst says:
    @Jack D
    I don't know why people here keep speculating (based on absolutely nothing) on psychosis, autism, jihad, etc. when just plain old fashioned incompetence is a plenty sufficient explanation. There have been plenty of incidents where cops shot people for no good reason and the cop was neither insane nor motivated by race, religion, the provocative sleepwear of the victim, etc. - just jumpy because (among other things) their training emphasizes that you should shoot people before they can get the drop on you and (up until now) very rarely are cops every convicted for such bad shoots so there is little downside to doing so. So on one side of the scale the cop has the (somewhat rational) fear of dying and on the other side very little fear of punishment for an "honest mistake". Any normal human being in this situation would be more likely to shoot given this incentive structure. If all cab drivers or convenience store clerks were armed and given impunity to shoot their passengers or customers, then you'd see a lot more shootings in those professions (which BTW are just as dangerous as being a cop) but (1) in big cities it's hard to get a carry permit and (2) if a cabby "mistakenly" shoots a passenger who he (wrongly) thinks is going for a gun, he is going to do hard time - no one is going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Only cops get this unique combination of carry + impunity in our society. The fact that AA has reduced the quality of the average cop probably hasn't helped but I'm not sure that itchy trigger fingers are particularly linked with intelligence. Most of the cops involved in shootings (including this one) seem to be within the range of normal intelligence.

    It’s IMMUNITY, not “impunity”…

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  148. Alden says:

    Officer Harrity is another affirmative action hire. He gave an interview to the BCA. Told them he was the driver, he heard a loud noise and he was startled. Noor immediately shot Victim.

    No further interviews are scheduled. Noor refuses to be interviewed. Police are looking for a young man on a bicycle who saw the officers tending to victim.

    The media is pushing the story of possible ambush.

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  149. Alden says:
    @grapesoda
    People don't usually make 90 degree turns to their left, take their pistol out of its holster, undo the safety and then pull the trigger, accidentally. You have written a lot of words here, but have failed to address this basic and obvious point.

    Especially those police holsters. There’s a big flap and 3 snaps and the flap gets in the way of grasping the gun. They are designed that way to prevent accidental discharge.

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  150. Alden says:
    @Jack D
    Au contraire, in many states divorce can be very lucrative for women, especially if there are children. Most divorces are initiated by women because there are strong financial incentives for them to do so and the legal dice are loaded in favor of the female partner. It's terrible for children but women love the "empowerment".

    Read my post. I did not say a word about child support and division of property. All I wrote is that many people in the midst of divorce charge some kind of abuse or unfitness. Divorce provides numerous jobs for affirmative action women as counselors and evaluators.

    Charging abuse and unfitness sometimes backfires on the party that made the charges.

    Before you try to start a fight, read the posts you want to fight about.

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  151. Alden says:
    @reiner Tor
    It's going to be a hot summer, whites are going to riot all over the country. They will be looting shopping centers and murdering each other in record numbers. But that's just natural when protesting injustice.

    As usual the Daily Mail publishes more about is going on in America than all our anti White PC newspapers.

    EXCLUSIVE: Killer cop says he shot Justine Damond because he was ‘startled’ by her [tr]

    ‎7‎/‎19‎/‎2017‎ ‎12‎:‎39‎:‎11‎ ‎PM · by C19fan · 11 replies
    UK Daily Mail ^ | July 19, 2017 | Shekhar Bhatia

    Killer policeman Mohamed Noor has said he was ‘startled’ by his victim Justine Damond seconds before he opened fire. The cop has told friends about why he gunned down the bride-to-be, 40, in his first account of what happened Saturday night. DailyMail.com has spoken to those friends to reveal for the first time his account of what happened that night.

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    Thanks.
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  152. Alden says:
    @Jack D
    Noor fired a single shot thru the door. If I had to guess now based on what little we know, he did not intend to shoot at all. Usually when cops intend to shoot someone, they shoot them a LOT. The 4 cops who killed him fired 41 bullets at Amadou Diallo (of which "only" 19 hit despite the fact that the cops were at close range), or 10 each. Nor is it normal for cops to shoot THROUGH a closed car door - the bullet could easily hit the very solid side impact beam that is inside every car door and not hit its target or even ricochet back at you.

    Perhaps Noor had drawn his gun in anticipation of finding the rapist and was putting it back in the holster (while not exercising proper trigger discipline). The real explanation will be something incredibly stupid and sloppy like that and not sudden insanity.

    One shot killed her. Multiple shots were fired.

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    If several shots were fired, it's a miracle his partner is still alive. I bet he's deaf now, though.
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  153. EdwardM says:
    @Chris Mallory

    How many rounds should he be allowed to fire before the police confirm its an actual pistol?
     
    Enough to prove an actual threat. Better a cop be killed than an innocent citizen.


    Castile, couldn’t follow directions
     
    Castile was following the directions to produce his driver's license. He was not reaching for his legally carried firearm.

    Again, citizens in the US have the right to go armed. If the cops cannot handle this, then they need to quit and find honest work. Better 1000 dead cops than one citizen having his rights or safety harmed by a cop.

    Better a cop be killed than an innocent citizen. . . Better 1000 dead cops than one citizen having his rights or safety harmed by a cop.

    Agreed. There are doctrines at all levels of law enforcement in the U.S. — that anyone with even the vaguest job description of “law enforcement” (e.g., regulatory police in Federal agencies) must carry guns, that they must shoot to kill (i.e., once they decide to shoot, keep going until the person is dead), and that cops have an even stronger presumption of innocence when using deadly force than civilians — that we could rationally re-think as a society in consideration of the trade-offs you mention.

    Why not equip police with tasers? I am sympathetic to the argument that there are feral populations in this country that can only be kept in check by brute force, but that applies to only a handful of jurisdictions. I don’t think a semi-suburban area in Minneapolis is one of them.

    I am a right-wing libertarian who carries a firearm legally (and sometimes in gray areas when forced to “pass through” a state with more restrictive laws) and I fear incompetent, hyper-aggressive, immune police more than street criminals.

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  154. @Alden
    As usual the Daily Mail publishes more about is going on in America than all our anti White PC newspapers.

    EXCLUSIVE: Killer cop says he shot Justine Damond because he was 'startled' by her [tr]


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    UK Daily Mail ^ | July 19, 2017 | Shekhar Bhatia

    Killer policeman Mohamed Noor has said he was 'startled' by his victim Justine Damond seconds before he opened fire. The cop has told friends about why he gunned down the bride-to-be, 40, in his first account of what happened Saturday night. DailyMail.com has spoken to those friends to reveal for the first time his account of what happened that night.

    Thanks.

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  155. BB753 says:
    @Alden
    One shot killed her. Multiple shots were fired.

    If several shots were fired, it’s a miracle his partner is still alive. I bet he’s deaf now, though.

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  156. Sluggo says:

    Gun violence is out of control

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