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Washington Post headline:

No refugees allowed? Trump’s plan to give states and cities a veto prompts an outcry.

The president’s executive order is unprecedented in the history of U.S. refugee resettlements, a system that has long had bipartisan support. Advocates fear ugly debates if politicians try to restrict who can move in.

By Griff Witte

For some reason, none of the 12,900 residents of Malibu, with its 21 miles of coastline, were available for comment about how awful it would be if the citizens of states and localities would be allowed to debate whether to allow themselves to be targeted by private organizations planning upon influxes of outsiders.

The Washington Post’s new slogan is: Democracy Dies in Debate.

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  1. Malibu must be immediately inundated with REFUGEE OVERLOAD!

    Malibu Meathead and the Malibu Nose must be swamped with REFUGEE OVERLOAD!

    Malibu Must Be Smothered With REFUGEE OVERLOAD!

    Tweet from 2015:

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  2. Liberate Malibu for the refugees!

  3. Dennis Dale says: • Website

    “Mr Reiner draws a lot of water in this town. You don’t draw shit, WP.”

    • Replies: @njguy73
    , @SunBakedSuburb
  4. Tweet from 2015:

  5. Wilkey says:

    The president’s executive order is unprecedented in the history of U.S. refugee resettlements

    It’s funny how the word “unprecedented” changes meaning depending upon the president it’s referring to.

    Obama: Unprecedented = GOOD, Forcing religious organizations to pay for abortions in violation of their beliefs is unprecedented…in a good way.

    Trump: Unprecedented = BAD. Giving local citizens a say over the resettlement of poor, uneducated and usually shiftless “refugees” in their neighborhoods is unprecedented…in a bad way.

    If I were a gambling man I’d wager that Trump’s action is an effort to win Minnesota and Maine in 2020. Maine is probably unlikely, but in Minnesota he has a solid chance.

    His action also serves to make mass immigration an issue with more impact on local elections.

  6. Alfa158 says:

    Not many electoral votes, but he narrowly lost* New Hampshire which also has a problem with colonists.
    * narrowly lose: when a Republican fails to win by enough to offset Democrat voter fraud.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  7. njguy73 says:
    @Dennis Dale

    Mr. Reiner treats… objects…like… immigrants.

  8. Lot says:

    Six cheers for Ann Corcoran, a retired lady patriot in Maryland who has been fighting third world refugee programs and the “nonprofits” that “settle” them for at least 10 years now.

    Notice my link to Ann’s twitter account is to “”

    This is a Twitter front end that strips out the privacy violations and other annoyances. The addresses are exactly the same, just change to

    The same guy has done the same thing for youtube, at Invidio also lets you download YouTube videos, and also listen to just the sound.

    • Replies: @res
  9. El Dato says:

    There is a lot of unprecedence in the not-too-distant future, not all of it pleasant.

    Unprecedently, the End of History has been postponed.

    If I were a gambling man I’d wager that Trump’s action is an effort to win Minnesota and Maine in 2020. Maine is probably unlikely, but in Minnesota he has a solid chance.

    So what do people say to the recent anti-Trump protests? This is so in your face that if it happened in Honk-Konk, I would suspect false flag operatives theatrically orchestrating false flag operations:

    Protesters in Minneapolis Physically Attack Trump Supporter After Rally, Chant Anti-Police Slogans

  10. MEH 0910 says:

    Punching Unprecedented Up vs. Punching Unprecedented Down.

  11. Ano says:


    President Erdogan of Turkey (who heard about Malibu from the Streisand Effect) threatens to flood it with Syrian refugees.


    Barbra Streisand sings You Can’t Always Get What You Want at sold-out Trump rally at the Hollywood Bowl.
    Rob Reiner, sporting a MAGA hat, introduces crowd to Trump. Smiles as Trump calls him Meathead.

  12. res says:

    Thanks for those pointers. I just tried accessing and it failed. My test download from appears to be stalled at 0. How well do these sites work for you?

    • Replies: @Charon
    , @Lot
    , @jim jones
  13. Ano says:

    I don’t suppose Griff Witte’s middle name is Ter is it?

  14. Charon says:

    It’s a great idea if it can be made to work. But we may be certain that the forces of reaction will be attacking it with everything they have. Which is a lot…

  15. Not really off topic:

    Yesterday…Donald Trump promised the Han Leader of Han China that Engineering Departments in the US belong to the Han People of China…..6 o’clock on Fox News yesterday…Suprised that Steve hasn’t made a post about this….


    Congressman Oliver Luck was an enthusiast for the H-1 B VISA Program….

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  16. I, Mudd says:

    The Good-Lib leaders of N Virginia and DC have said they will not take any refugees

  17. guest says:

    Sanctuary cities determining their own immigration policies: good.

    Cities possibly deciding not to accept refugees (/ “refugees” ): “unprecedented.” (That means bad.) Potential for civil war.

    Debate indeed is dangerous because it might result in the bad side winning. Important decisions ought to be made outside the knowledge of anyone not thoroughly educated in the correct opinions. If that sounds like darkness, well, it’s only dark and undemocratic when the Other Guys do it.

    • Replies: @gregor
  18. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    He won 1 of 3 electoral votes in Maine in 2016. They, like Nebraska split them up.

    Good chance in Minn and new Hampshire.

  19. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    That was annoying, though your exaggerating. Feds have little to no control on undergraduate enrollment other than Visa issuance.

  20. Trump deserves a lot of credit for this, and for generally tamping down refugee admissions during his Presidency. But of course, the demoralization agents on this forum tell us he’s the same as everyone else, and only suckers believe otherwise.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  21. A Texan says:

    It would be nice if more places like Malibu and other wealthy enclaves could inundated with some Section Ape ‘duh-versity’. I guess we can only hope when the SHTF one day, some of those enclaves filled with white sh_tlib women who will be used as involuntary sex toys on their granite counter tops. Hopefully, the rest of us will still have some guns and the balls to use them.

  22. @Dennis Dale

    “Yeah, well, that’s just like your opinion, man.”

  23. Lot says:

    The site seems to be slow during peak US internet hours, but otherwise about as fast.

    I have not tested the video download yet, but i’ve done it with browser plugins.

    • Replies: @res
  24. @Bragadocious

    Trump is a disruptor, no question. He threatens Imperial cohesion. He’s in the gun sights of the intelligence agencies. His enemies worship indecency and domination. He’s not my cup of tea, politically. I’d prefer a Tulsi-Yang ticket, but that’s not going to happen. 2020 is going to be an interesting year, hopefully in a good way.

  25. @El Dato

    People don’t say anything because anyone who stood up against Antifa had the 800 lb gorilla of the DoJ slamming down on them utilizing RICO laws to hit them with 20 year sentences.

    Meanwhile antifa smashes in skulls with impunity and if they get arrested, get time served.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  26. @Anonymous

    No, I’m not exagerating…That’s almost verbatim as to what Trump said last night…..Trump rants and rants about the threat of China…as does Tucker Carlson…However, both Trump and Tucker are happy to have the Chinese come in LEGALLY and vote Whitey into a White Racial Minority-White Racial Foreigner within the borders of America….

    • Replies: @Realist
  27. Olorin says:

    The globoelites’ notion of demos-ocracy does in fact die in debate…

    …because the only demos it involves are the human cattle trafficked and wrangled for the whimsies and profits of the globoelites and expected to obey rather than question…or in the case of the more reactive cattle, to demand, on cue and as part of globoelite Creative Destruction plans, gibs, victim points, get out of jail free passes, and Space To Destroy.

    In fact they hate nothing so much as giving actual people a say in government, as we can witness in their hatred of voter ID/fraud cleanup, and their efforts to overturn the 2016 US election and the UK Brexit vote. It also explains their hostility to the US Constitution’s electoral college system.

  28. @SunBakedSuburb

    Trump is not a disrupter…Trump is an enthusiast for GLOBAL HOMO NEOLIBERALISM and Race-Replacement Immigration Policy….Trump is a proxy for his White Male Voting Bloc….And the Democratic Party has open GENOCIDAL RAGE!!! towards Trump’s Working Class White Male Voting Bloc….Trump is importing the Democratic Party’s highly RACIALIZED nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc LEGALLY….

  29. res says:

    Thanks. My video download (> 1GB) did finish. It just took a long time.

  30. BenKenobi says:
    @Jack Henson

    For those keeping score at home, the anarcho-tyranny characteristic of the Trump era came into full effect after the Battle of Berkeley, where Antifa were soundly defeated, their flags captured, and their goons chased from the streets. This is the same street battle where Nathan Damigo landed his iconic punch on Moldylocks.

    It was clear that Antifa was not up to the job without state power backing them.

    Morale on the Dissident Right was sky-high after Trump’s election. Many of us were politically optimistic for the future for the first time in years. “Wow we might actually be able to do this legally and with state power.”

    Then the empire struck back. An establishment pincer was set-up for Charlottesville, and both Trump and the Alt-Right have been enervated ever since.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  31. Anon[251] • Disclaimer says:

    The genius of Trump is the way he always seems to manage to surface things, facts, the true views and goals of progressives, etc., that have not been general public knowledge. “Oh, that’s how it is. I didn’t know that.”

    This new policy will require politicians to explicitly make a YIMBY choice, and live with it politically, in the relatively short term. That then becomes a part of their platform that is available to voters to peruse in the voting booth.

    What am I saying? The courts will do the national injunction thing to kill it.

    If it somehow survives, I wonder if a devious rich guy could fund a nonprofit to bring refugees to Malibu, complete with architect- and urban planner-designed concrete proposals on where to put the buildings. Attorneys to testify at public hearings. I would GoFundMe such a project! Rob Reiner, here we come.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Barnard
  32. @Anon

    Rob Reiner will testify in 2020 that Malibu can’t take any refugees because of Global Warming. It would be genocide to expose helpless refugees to the rising ocean that will, real soon now, wash away Malibu.

  33. 216 says: • Website

    Go home, Tanzanian President tells Burundian refugees

    “Even Jesus ran to Egypt as a refugee … and returned to his land to preach. Why do you want to stay here permanently and not return to your country?” he said.

  34. Barnard says:

    I still think The Edge from U2 should work with the Trump Administration to turn the property Malibu wouldn’t let him build on into mass dorm style housing for illegals. Better yet, just setup tents and start busing them in and watch the locals heads explode.

    • Replies: @James Bowery
    , @Alden
  35. Any NGOs that participate in refugee resettlement without the consent of the local community need to be sued by those communities. That includes all the major religious denominations. Remember, these shining lights of moral superiority have deep pockets because God loves them or so they say. The Catholic Church alone has done enough damage and has enough assets to finance the purchase of Greenland by people of European descent that want to a country for Europeans the way Israel is a country for Jews.

    Of course, we wouldn’t be permitted nuclear weapons by AIPAC and we’d probably find ourselves being bombed into a grease spot by the USrael military if we so much as looked cross-eyed at someone like Pollard in our midst, or didn’t permit Drag Queen Story Hour in our private schools or… you know… human rights and stuff. But at least we’d have several blessed months, if not years of delusion, before the Democrats and Neocons regained control of Washington D.C. and prevented the Moral Equivalent of a Holocaust by Excluding Drag Queens from our children and Mossad agents from our information infrastructure.

  36. I counted the word “Trump” in 17 headlines on the home page of the online Washington Post, just now. There are usually more, I’m pretty sure.

  37. @Barnard

    I seem to recall posting this before as a comment of one of Steve’s blogs, but (and this is speaking as a former resident of La Jolla) that’s exactly what I started doing while living in a former boiler room so I could get a T1’s phone lines for one of the earliest microprocessor-based instant messaging servers (which I developed entirely in MASM86 for 4.77MHz 8088) in North Park, sharing a bathroom with a guy dying of AIDS in the next room. The fun just wouldn’t stop with so many muggings going on that the cops had to question me about the pool of blood that they found next to my car.

    The pan handlers and homeless were so thick that when I went to my PO Box to check my mail, I started offering the more insistent of them transport to Prospect Ave in La Jolla, a mere block from my PO Box, where they could, you know, Prospect. Most refused my generous offer.

  38. Washington Post Adopts Slogan “Democracy Dies in Debate” as Ugly Debates Feared

    For the Graham crackers’ rag, the motto may as well be “Democracy Digs Through Dumpsters”.

  39. @El Dato

    Antifa activity does seem so absurdly anti-American that I can see how one might think it was all a false flag, but no.

    It is just another symptom of the progressive disintegration of America as the progressive left moves further left more rapidly. Just look at the uniform and accelerating insanity of the Dem presidential candidates.

    Also, it is my understanding that Antifa is financed by George Soros. For it to be a false flag, there would need to be someone of his financial heft and activist bent on the conservative side (i.e. someone who didn’t want to destroy America). And there isn’t anybody like that. The rich are uniformly globalist.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
  40. jim jones says:
    @res works fine for me (Palemoon browser, uBlock Origin adblocker):

    • Replies: @res
  41. For a seaborne invasion of Malibu,
    I can tell you the perfect locale if you
    Want to establish a beachhead—
    It’s Rob Reiner’s Casa del Meathead.

  42. Mr. Anon says:

    There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets, and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.

    Katharine Graham

    Die, Democracy, Die!

    – Katharine Graham

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  43. When discussing immigration with open-borders enthusiasts, confidently presenting these facts works for me:

    1) Jews are famously compassionate toward all immigrants.
    2) Israel is geographically & climatically similar to the homelands of millions of immigrants.
    3) Israel needs cultural enrichment.
    4) This is serious.
    5) You didn’t hear me. This is serious.
    6) You still didn’t hear me. This is serious.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  44. @alt right moderate

    Thanks for pointing out this guy. If only Jarvis Dupont and Tatiana McGrath begat a child together – alas, now that he has transitioned….

  45. @Charles Pewitt

    Like most “conservatives” Ann was then, and is now, unwilling to reveal the massive Jewish role in promoting open borders and multiculturalism. She’s only tough and honest up to a point.

  46. Realist says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Trump rants and rants about the threat of China…as does Tucker Carlson…

    Yes, and this is annoying about Tucker. He has swallowed the hate China pill. He has the dumbass Gordon Chang on to bad mouth China. The Chinese system is not the best form of government, but it sure as beats the hell out of Democracy. The US and it’s stupid form of Democracy is a black hole for money. So much is wasted on useless programs, corruption, kickbacks, regulations and other bullshit. At least China puts their wealth to good use…which is why they will eat our lunch.

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
  47. JohnnyD says:

    It’s obviously fascism to let Americans have a say in who gets to live in their country. We need a Beto O’Rourke to restore democracy by forcing communities in North Dakota to take in Somalis! “Hell yes, we’re forcing you to house refugees from countries we can’t even find on a map!”

  48. @Mr. Anon

    when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.

    There are some fascinating hidden assumptions there. How can “the press” keep some of their members from publishing what other members of “the press” want to hide?

    I guess that would require some sort of secret communication among the parties, and dare I say it, conspiracy!

    I will decide what I learn–I have zero interest in whether the “journalists” approve of it or not. I have less than zero interest in their opinions on these or any other matters.

  49. Alden says:

    There’s a fair number of homeless in Malibu.

  50. Joe Sweet says:

    I’d prefer a Trump-Tulsi ticket.

  51. Immigration is a local phenomenon administered nationally, so Trump giving localities a say is a step toward reality in government. It also shows up his enemies, who are terrified lest we find out the “national consensus” on immigration ain’t so national.

  52. @Wilkey

    If I were a gambling man I’d wager that Trump’s action is an effort to win Minnesota and Maine in 2020. Maine is probably unlikely, but in Minnesota he has a solid chance.

    I suspect Trump will carry Minnesota, as well as the same 3/4 EVs in Maine that Hillary got last time. But he’ll still lose the single Electoral Vote for Maine’s District One. ME D1 is, electorally speaking, as lost a cause as Massachusetts.

  53. res says:
    @jim jones

    Working fine for me today as well. Not sure what was going on yesterday.

  54. Wilkey says:
    @Steve in Greensboro

    Antifa activity does seem so absurdly anti-American that I can see how one might think it was all a false flag, but no.

    The phrase “anti-fascism” has a long history on the far, far Left. The official name for the Berlin Wall was the “Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart.”

    In other words, Antifa people are communists. The fact that they supported a wall keeping people from leaving a communist state but oppose a wall that would stop people from coming illegally into America tells you whose side they thing those illegals will be on. It has nothing to do with any idealistic belief in compassion or in freedom of movement.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  55. notsaying says:

    Saying No won’t do much good for the places who feel overwhelmed with refugees and asylum seekers. They can say No to the settling organizations bringing in new people who want to place them somewhere. But America’s a free country and the refugees and asylum seekers who want to move from where they are initially assigned are free to do so. They may have to give up some welfare benefits that they are automatically entitled to but they can reapply in their new states.

    I think the refugee settling agencies may be more worried about losing clients than they are about some cities and states saying No.

  56. notsaying says:

    There are at least a few places who say they want more refugees. I don’t understand why that is. Yes, they get more demand for housing and more spending going on locally. Their hospitals get the Medicaid spending from the state and the federal government. But they also have to pay the education bills for the new kids in school, which would be very high. Some of that would be state paid but a lot would be local.

    Then there is the unfairness of their own lower income people having to compete for housing, jobs, government and other help and resources with the refugees. That hardly seems fair.

  57. @Realist

    Ah yes, the Chinese make their trains run on time, don’t they? Yet the Chinese government is a brittle, corrupt system — the idea America is more corrupt than China is ludicrous. The fact American elites have far less power over Americans than Chinese elites over the Chinese is not a source of strength for China at all: when Chinese propaganda fails their elites can always resort to mass violence in China, when American propaganda fails American elites cannot order mass violence in America. Chinese elites — while of course lining their pockets in a way that makes the Clintons and Bidens look like amateurs — don’t have pressure to change, and won’t, even after their policies begin to fail and they start to lose their critical export markets that allowed them their rise in the first place. American elites get damaged by unpopular policies and eventually have to yield. Most American elites wanted TPP. They failed. Most American elites never wanted a trade war with China and would have stopped it if they could. They failed. Most American elites wanted more globalism, not less. They failed. America can of course self correct.

    I have noticed a trend of race realists idealizing China, which I guess is logical to that worldview. China is a powerful, arrogant, and yes, somewhat successful, ethnostate that publicly makes no bones about who they think are superior: themselves. Rare confidence in this multi-cultural world. But I’m not Chinese, don’t look up to them, their culture, or their system. I love land and my civil rights — the pesky ones including freedom of religion, speech, and right to bear arms — much more than any dislike of the fact that some of my countrymen are non-white. I would love it if immigration to America was cut by 90 percent, and that does need to happen: the fact we already let in a bunch of people does not mean the country is lost already.

    • Replies: @Realist
  58. Jack D says:

    An establishment pincer was set-up for Charlottesville, and both Trump and the Alt-Right have been enervated ever since.

    Really, they put 1 nutjob who plowed thru a crowd with his car in jail (should they have let him go?) and that’s enough to “enervate” both Trump and the Alt-Right? If that’s true, they are a bunch of pussies. Mao said that a revolution is not a dinner party.

  59. Realist says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    Living in make believe is fun when you are a child…I take it you are an adult.

    • Replies: @XYZ (no Mr.)
  60. @Realist

    Is that your final answer, champ?

    • Replies: @Realist
  61. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    He didn’t plow through a crowd, he was attacked in his car by protesters employing the widely used and completely illegal street-obstructing tactic, and he had attempted to escape but was blocked by both protesters and abandoned police barricades. The nutjob judge called him a murderer in the middle of his trial but the nutjob lawyer didn’t even ask for a mistrial. There’s supposed to be a video proving the establishment’s nutjob case, which was promised to be made public, but at the end of the trial it was effectively sealed — it can only be viewed by people who physically go to that police department and surrender identifying documents. So yeah, real slam dunk case. Traffic obstruction was a favorite tactic of BLM and this case reverses the legal understanding that you could drive through obstructors if you then turned yourself in and claimed to fear for your life (this was what people were told to do, and what they did) — now if your car is surrounded by angry shouting people, you had better just hope they go away.

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @Jack D
  62. @Jack D

    Yeah, that’s all it was, not the whole scale proscription of anyone with a frog avatar on social media.

    Go defend Boomer fans of Trump from Antifa and then let me know how it goes for you.

  63. gregor says:

    “Potential for civil war.”

    There was actually a 1997 HBO movie called The Second Civil War with pretty much that exact premise. The movie is set in a vibrant future America of warring ethnic factions. Washington is sending a plane of impoverished Indians to be settled in Idaho but the Governor refuses, leading to a war with the Feds.

    File that one under “things that would never get produced in 2019.” In 1997, I think such a plot seemed exagerrated, but not so today.

  64. BenKenobi says:
    @Jack D

    should they have let him go?


  65. dfordoom says: • Website

    In other words, Antifa people are communists.

    You’re using the word communist in exactly the same way they use the words fascist and Nazi – as an all-purpose smear word for people you don’t approve of.

    You’re right to disapprove of the Antifa mob but Antifa are loyal foot-soldiers of global capitalism. It’s hard to see how any sane person could see them as communists.

    • Replies: @Den
  66. We needs to have a discussion about this debate thing. Here’s why.

  67. anon[264] • Disclaimer says:

    We should have a national conversation about this “debate” idea.

  68. Realist says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    Is that your final answer, champ?

    There was only one question in your screed…and that was rhetorical.

    Ah yes, the Chinese make their trains run on time, don’t they?

    So there is nothing to answer, but at least you acknowledge I am the champ…and you are not.

  69. Jack D says:

    the legal understanding that you could drive through obstructors if you then turned yourself in and claimed to fear for your life (this was what people were told to do, and what they did)

    If someone gave him this advice it was bad advice. Even the way you phrase it show bad faith and advance planning – “I’ll go there and CLAIM that I feared for my life”. You have to have a reasonable fear and then take reasonable defensive actions. Your view of this is clearly colored (literally) by your sympathies. If Fields was a black antifa protester and had done the exact same thing to the white supremacists with his car, you’d be calling for him to fry. Video footage from that day showed that he backed up to gain speed before plowing into the crowd.

    BTW, he didn’t turn himself in. In addition to 1st degree murder he was convicted of leaving the scene of an accident. Not by the judge and not by his lawyer but by a jury of his peers.

    BLM often makes the mistake of choosing highly flawed figures like the Gentle Giant as their heroes. Fields is a very dubious poster boy for the right.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Jack Henson
  70. @Jack D

    Fields was rail roaded and I notice you reverted to form and just ignored the meat of the post while banging off on non sequitur.

  71. anon[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Really, they put 1 nutjob who plowed thru a crowd with his car in jail (should they have let him go?)

    Professor Dwayne Dixon, professor of anthropology at the University of North Carolina and a leader of the Antifa group “Redneck Revolt” bragged online that he was armed with an AR-15 carbine when he chased said “nutjob”. In other words, Prof. Dixon was presenting a credible threat of deadly force that said “nutjob” was attempting to drive away from. This is all in the public record, it is something of a surprise that you did not know it.

    Jack D: If someone was chasing you with what appeared to be a loaded rifle, would you drive in a sane and sober fashion, or would you attempt to get away no matter what?

    Why wasn’t Prof. Dixon considered at least an accessory to the death of Heather Heyer (leaving aside the issue of her fatal heart attack)?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  72. Den says:

    Under capitalism it’s man against man, under communism it’s the other way around.

  73. Jack D says:

    I believe that the Dixon story was presented at trial and the jury found him guilty anyway. I say again, if Fields was a black man who ran down a crowd full of white nationalists, you wouldn’t buy his self defense story for one second and you know it.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Jack Henson
  74. anon[320] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    I believe that the Dixon story was presented at trial

    Citation, please. Since you are an officer of the court, you know what I am asking for.

    I say again, if Fields was a black man who ran down a crowd full of white nationalists, you wouldn’t buy his self defense story for one second and you know it.

    You have no idea what I believe, but clearly you are arrogant enough to try to tell me.
    So now you’re a mind reader? Let us test that. We’ll start with an easy one.

    What is my favorite color?

  75. @Jack D

    “I believe” and then goes on to state a fact with no citation. True to form.

    How do you square the 435 year verdict with murders in cold blood in other locales walking after several years?

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