Couldn’t people in other countries just adopt our ideas and stay put?

I’m really amazed that this guy is still on TV, or even youtube, for that matter.

Lou Dobbs back some years ago was known as an immigration patriot, but he wasn’t as bright as Tucker Carlson. I recall Dobbs completely backed off at some point, I guess to stay on TV (CNN, I think).

Videos of Tucker Carlson make my day, as long as I can shake off the stupidity of whomever he is debating arguing with.

America: Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

Tucker Carlson is a racist

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/01/17/after-guest-calls-out-his-racism-tucker-carlson-has-meltdown-yours/219092

Proving again that all you need to trigger a RW snowflake is accurately calling them out.

I already think even the opponents to these immigration proposals by the establishment have gotten way off track. Who cares about DACA and future immigrants, when the most pressing issue is that there are 12 million illegals in the country (including DACA). Why are they still here, living in housing, working at jobs, using financial institutions, a year after Donald Trump was elected?

DACA kids and illegal criminals are not the issue. The issue is illegal aliens as a whole. Do not allow that 12 million to be carved up, criminals bad, DACAs good, the other 10 million “we just won’t talk about for a while.” They all must go.

Deportations should have started with the employed middle-class illegals and the law-school student DACAs, and then proceded down the scale to the criminals.

But deportations only get you a trickle. Employment, housing, and bank accounts should be targeted. Source countries should be assisted in receiving the returnees. In some cases we should just pay them to leave, as Canada has been known to do.

I generally hate TV talking heads, but I gotta say, Tucker is a talented guy. Or he has a talented staff, or both. He has good people; all you need are good people, the rest sorts itself out, and it is nice to see that he preaches what he practices.

Lindsey Graham: America is an idea – not defined by its people but by it’s ideals.

Then I guess it doesn’t matter what kinds of kids are in U.S. schools. All kids are just the same. They have no influence on how good a school is or isn’t. No need to think that white kids can make schools better.

Enoch Powell once said that even if Britain went Communist he would still be willing to fight for it. If you believe that America is made for its ‘posterity’ you would have to agree with him if America happened to go Communist.

But that doesn’t accord with what the founders-Give Me Liberty or give me Death-seemed to be saying.

BTW How come no one here never mentions ‘E Pluribus Unum’ which first appeared on the Great Seal of the United States in 1782-even before the Constitution?

E Pluribus Unum-sounds quite pro-diversity, no?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pluribus_unum

The Emma Lasarus Statue of Liberty poem is the Zeroth Amendment, so I guess that makes the Great Seal Latin epigram the Minus First Amendment?

The Minus Second Amendment would then be Benjamin Franklin’s “Guests, like fish, begin to smell after three days.”

Tucker is the most iSteve-y TV host ever. He should have you on. I could see you becoming a regular, ala Mark Steyn.

The individual, his rights and responsibilities in relation to himself and his immediate family, his nearest neighbors, his city and his country as a whole, as they are understood in the laws and traditions of the culture and civilization he lives in. Or something like that.

Couldn’t people in other countries just adopt our ideas and stay put?

It has been conclusively demonstrated that the American idea only works on American soil. Therefore, everybody who wants to experience that idea must live here. There’s no point in arguing; it’s science.

E Pluribus Unum-sounds quite pro-diversity, no?

No, not at all, to me. “Out of many, one” means that anybody different assimilates to the culture of America. I realize this is not an anti-immigration position either, but it’s not pro-diversity. The people that push diversity want no assimilation to happen (the way it goes now, in fact).

They want these light-bulb-headed Somalians over here, these studious introverted Chinese sitting there, these Indians in gowns with dots on their foreheads over there, and those towel-headed guys there speaking some expectorant-based-dialect with their black-mummified girlfriends all to be hanging out at the coffee shops having a good old diverse time, as the normal Americans just put up with it. It’s kind of fun if all that’s only 2 dozen people in a city of 200,000, and the innumerate people that don’t get out much really imagine that this is about what we have.

I would never fight for a Communist government if there were a way out. It’s much better to stop them from internally taking over early on. It’s not THAT early in America. If “my people” truly become Communists, they are dead to me, and I would rather adopt a new “my people”.

Cardiology is just an idea too but people tend to be kind of picky when they need heart surgery.

On this, I defer to the authority of my 6th grade civics teacher: a“government of the people, by the people, for the people.”

E Pluribus Unum-sounds quite pro-diversity, no?

From the link you provided is this:

The meaning of the phrase originates from the concept that out of the union of the original Thirteen Colonies emerged a new single nation.[8] It is emblazoned across the scroll and clenched in the eagle’s beak on the Great Seal of the United States.[9][10]

So if by diversity you mean a Star Wars cantina, then I’d say no. It is not quite pro-diversity.

Tom Wolfe has a regularly-recurring image in several of his books of a man with smooth jowls emerging above an immaculate spread collar like toothpaste being squeezed from a tube. He had Tucker Carlson in mind I believe.

It’s looking like they’re going to force a government shutdown over this “idea.” Lindsey Grahamnesty is showing his true colors now, saying he won’t vote for a CR because it doesn’t provide enough for the military without a DACA fix (but, really of course, because it doesn’t provide a DACA amnesty).

“But that doesn’t accord with what the founders-Give Me Liberty or give me Death-seemed to be saying.”

Probably because you’re an ignoramus, haven’t read any of the extensive writings of the founding fathers, and don’t realize that liberty is self-determination for them and their posterity, as opposed to being under the heel of a foreign tyrant. If America “went communist” then that would seem to be either self determination if popularly supported (not going to happen among heritage americans), or a domestic tyrant, which they also warned of. Either way you should probably grow up and stop fetishizing your idea of what the founding fathers believed; besides the fact that you’re dead wrong, let’s say they were actually anti-racists who wanted racial integration (if you were to overlook the fact that many of them were owners of african slaves), you’d still eventually have to join us in reality and cope with the fact that racial equalitarianism and and progressivism is a miserably failed ideology; that the races aren’t equal, that ethnic self interest exists, and that multiracial societies are ultimately doomed to collapse, whether or not the founding fathers believed otherwise.

“E Pluribus Unum-sounds quite pro-diversity, no?”

No

E Pluribus Unum-sounds quite pro-diversity, no?

No.

The Founding Fathers were referring to themselves and their posterity as One(Unum), having descended from the Many(Pluribus) that had settled and built the American colonies. The One that was already formed, had just liberated and was building the United States.

E Pluribus Unum-sounds quite pro-diversity, no?

No. Pro-diversity would be the opposite. Instead of “Out of many, one” that would be “Out of one, many” E Unum Pluribus

The “pluribus” in the motto were not diverse peoples. E pluribus unum clearly refers to the several states, of which were made one Union.

In the Wikipedia article linked, a sketch of arms proposed by Pierre Eugène du Simitiere in 1776 for the new country shows the arms of the thirteen colonies quartered on one shield with this motto on an escrol underneath. This was apparently its first appearance in connection with an American emblem. It is noted that the motto has thirteen letters (one for each colony).

Retconning the Great Seal?

Your linked Wikipedia article explains the origin and meaning of “E Pluribus Unum.” Next time, read before you link.

“The motto E Pluribus Unum, emblazoned across the scroll and clenched in the eagle’s beak, expresses the union of the 13 States.”

This is from the original State Department source for the Wikipedia article.

https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/27807.pdf

You’ll also notice the original design: 13 colony seals above the motto, the many to be united as one.

He used the “r” word guys, argument’s over.

Seriously, you don’t see how much that sounds like “Witch!!!!’”

I think we should get to tax anyone, no matter where they live, if they share our ideals. They’re Americans, whether they like it or not.

Hey, what was wrong with the Star Wars cantina?

Oh right, the shooting, killling, and scumbags.

That’s a great line. Like “To quote Willem Dafoe in The Last Temptation Of Christ, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”.

Enoch Powell once said that even if Britain went Communist he would still be willing to fight for it.

When Powell made that statement, Britain was nearly 100% White British. I’m pretty sure that he would not have been quite so willing to fight for a Muslim majority Britain….

If you believe that America is made for its ‘posterity’ you would have to agree with him if America happened to go Communist.

I’m pretty sure that a communist USA’s population would be majority non-European….which would mean that the there would be no posterity to fight for….

BTW How come no one here never mentions ‘E Pluribus Unum’ which first appeared on the Great Seal of the United States in 1782-even before the Constitution?

E Pluribus Unum-sounds quite pro-diversity, no?

Um, no. See, that translates as “out of many, one.” And the oneness to they were referring was political in nature: out of 13 colonies/states, one nation.

>>Tucker Carlson is a racist

We’re all racists now, Tiny.

This is recent. Young Tucker was a boring parrot of standard right wing thinking back in those days.

Steve,

According to the New Yorker:

“”You can’t tuck the Tuck” is, among other things, a way of affirming that Carlson is a white guy who isn’t afraid to stand up for himself.”

That’s quite an affirmation, especially in light of its source!

After Tucker got bitch-slapped by Jon Stewart on Crossfire because he was the token-establishment-conservative-whipping boy, Tucker spent some time in the wilderness. When he came back to TV with this show, I thought he’d just be a retread of establishment republican talking points—especially with the O’Reilly/Ailes scandals causing Tucker to get a show in the first place.

It seems Tucker has learned a few things since Stewart’s torpedoing, and seems to have stopped playing the left’s game of making R’s the Washington Generals, and actually being more Alt-Right. It’s been amusing to watch—his take down of that lying Congressman Schiff on the Russia stuff was gold, and his exposure of Kurt Eichenwald’s mental problems was surreal–but I still don’t trust the cuck; he’s been a Washington insider far too long, and is a proud swamp resident.

I’m fearing he, like Macron, merely exists to drive alt-right to him so he can subsume them and morph them into neocons like the Tea Party was subsumed and destroyed.

America = Idea = Diversity = Democracy = Brazil.

Brazil is a democracy with diversity. So, it must be America too.

I love you, you’re perfect, don’t ever change.

Heartiste made the same point.

“If America is an idea, why can’t we just send a copy of that idea to shithole countries so they can build their own cities on the hill?”

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/01/13/shithole-nationalism/

If not a nation, is America a good or a bad idea?

It’s not smart to base a nation on an idea. It’s like basing your budget on your screw-up brother’s promise to pay you back for all that money he borrowed years ago. Maybe it happens and maybe it doesn’t. In the case of your I.O.U. nation, not coming through has severe consequences. If your brother doesn’t pay you back, you’ll still see him at Thanksgiving.

When Invade fails to bring democracy to a shithole, Invite picks up the tab.

Call it Passive-Aggressive Imperialism. Not being willing to man up and simply conquer and run s-hole countries because they are well hell holes, and run them for and by the benefit of the conquerors with the side note that the living standard and life quality of the conquered will also go up (unless they were conquered by the Japanese, Belgians, or Germans).

The whole “America is an idea” is just wimpy passive-aggressive imperialism.

The idea is that the DACA extension is expiring soon, so the precariousness of their status can be used as leverage to do away with chain migration and the diversity lottery, and to fund Trump’s border wall.

“…not defined by its people…”

And yet our Constitution begins “We the People…”

Graham is a traitor, serving exploitative business interests.

His talent is aligned with a common sense position now, which makes him look like a lot better than he did, say, 15 years ago.

“E Pluribus Unum-sounds quite pro-diversity, no?”

No.

As I said in a recent thread, a pro-diversity motto would be: “out of many, many.”

“If you believe that America is made for its ‘posterity’ you would have to agree with him if America happened to go communist”

Against outsiders, yes. But I’d like to think we’d be busy killing eachother. Like our posterity did in that civil war thingy.

“that doesn’t accord with what the founders-Give Me Liberty or give me Death–seemed to be saying”

You’re foolish, you know that? Don’t take slogans too seriously. Americans didn’t set up false idols like Liberty, though some of them fetishized it.

They were willing to risk their lives to get out of a regime that frankly wasn’t very oppressive. But they wouldn’t have thought it worth everyone dying to preserve any idea. The nation was supposed to persist, not disappear in a puff of smoke if some people didn’t get their way.

Our possible future, as articulated by Sir Alec Guiness (slightly modified):

“The United States of America. You’ll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.”

This was the sort of basic, fundamental stuff that I don’t seem to recall being discussed during the 2006, 2007, or 2013 amnesty debates. Back then it was all about jobs, economics, and whatever.

Say what you will about Trump – he is inflammatory enough – but he is getting open borders pols to admit what they truly believe, and he has opened up space for more articulate conservatives to explain why those pols and media hicks are full of shit.

Sure, America is an “idea” that belongs to everyone – just like Harry Reid’s and Mitt Romney’s and Dianne Feinstein’s brokerage accounts.

It’s looking like they’re going to force a government shutdown over this “idea.”

If the Democrats and their Republican running-dogs want to shut down the government, let them:

1.) A government shut-down won’t be so bad (not that it was so bad the last time) in a Republican administration. They won’t be telling people who stop outside of Yosemite to get a look at the view: move along, there’s a government shutdown, El Capitan is closed, you can’t look at it.

2.) If the Democrats want to run next November on shutting down the government for a bunch of foreigners, let them. They can explain to their voters why the one thing they’re really willing to go to the mat for are illegal aliens.

Indeed, seen in context, the phrase means the opposite of what is commonly interpreted today: from these 13 states, from this founding stock, a new nation.

E Pluribus Unum-sounds quite pro-diversity, no?

No. It meant that out of thirteen colonies, which themselves were not that “diverse” by modern standards, one nation was made. It does not mean “Send more Somalis!”

It’s really diffict not to hate Lindsey Graham.

OT

The BBC is pretty much spearheading (no pun at the expense of aboriginals intended) the campaign to unperson Margaret Court by renaming Margaret Court Arena due to her views on homosexuality and sex change freakery aka transgenderism — a kind of sports ‘watsoning’ — here they laughably feature some nobody female tennis player’s ambivalent view on it:

Australian Open 2018: Laura Robson suggests renaming Margaret Court Arena

“It’s a tough one because she achieved so much. I would kind of lean towards renaming it,” said 23-year-old Robson.

OK.

Here’s a nice touch:

Robson, ranked 228 in the world, wore a rainbow hair band in the 2012 Australia Open in support of equal rights…A ball boy from that match messaged Robson on Twitter this week to say how much her stance meant to him.

So was the “ball boy” perhaps a “ball girl” back in 2012? Who knows — but Margaret Court must be unpersoned for the sake of the children.

“The idea is that the DACA extension is expiring soon, so the precariousness of their status…”

Their situation is not precarious. A DACA person would have to have really bad luck to get deported.

There are 700,000 of them. Do the math. Using ICE to round up that many people would take more years than FDR was in office.

The only way to get them out is to make the American Dream into the American Nightmare for them, no jobs, for instance, full eVerify. I don’t see that happening in the near future.

If America is merely an idea, then what idea is it? People who believe that America-as-idea stuff all seem to have some particular idea, or particular set of ideas, they consider America to be. They might not all agree – Lindsey Grahams’ idea might be different from Chuck Schumers’ – but they all have one. And implicit in their claim that America is an idea – is the notion that you must believe that idea to truly be american.

But, we are supposed to be a country that values freedom. And what is more central to freedom than freedom of thought. If America is an idea, then I have every right to imagine it to be any damned idea I want, whether Lindsey Graham or Chuck Schumer likes it or not. Maybe my idea of America is that it should be a country where slavery should be legal, or piracy, or it should be a theocracy or an absolute monarchy.

I don’t know why we don’t more often point out the absolutely definitive evidence against “muh Constitution” arguments:

the worst shitholes, however you want to choose them from the Soviet Union to the failed states of Africa to the genocidal warmongers of Europe, have fantastic constitutions. Any country you hate, just name it and find a perfectly nice sounding Constitution.

We are a people. The Constitution is something we decided to put on paper to better organize the government which exists to serve us, the nation. Not the other way around.

The Constitution didn’t write us, we wrote the Constitution. (hat tip to Malcolm Little for getting me down to one line)

Something else we should point out is that rhetoric about how people are not really people paves the way for attempts at genocide. No people, no crime. Case closed!

Say what you will about Trump – he is inflammatory enough – but he is getting open borders pols to admit what they truly believe, and he has opened up space for more articulate conservatives to explain why those pols and media [hacks] are full of shit.

The media tried to nail Trump for “hate speech”, while inadvertently exposing what Steve calls “hate facts”. But the subject matter that sparked this suggests a potentially catchier neologism for Trump’s real talk: “Haiti speech”.

Since Steve, Ann Coulter, and John Derbyshire aren’t allowed to have their own shows, Tucker Carlson is about the best we can hope for. Sigh.. I was just imagining a show with all of them on it together. Could actually make me start watching television again.

Once there was a city on a hill and it was told “You are the light of the world! A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden!”

And it was rising up to God and it said “All men are created equal! They are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights!”

And to make sure no one missed it, it said “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me!”

And this city on the hill had sinned and God sent a great flood.

Brownie, Heckuva job!

And more punishment was meted out! A new leader arrived. The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice!!!

The city demonstrated pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth, but the leader said “That’s not who we are!”

As punishment God sent the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, and said “Let diversity be your strength!”

And he further said “Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.
8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9 Therefore is the name of it called The United States of America; because the LORD did there confound the language!

And all they had left were the tired, poor, huddled, wretched, homeless!

But that is all they needed, because the city was just an idea!!!

It had become a shithole!

But God was better than his word. He did it all, and infinitely more; and to Tiny Tim, who did not die, he was a second father. He became as good a friend, as good a master, and as good a man, as the good old city knew, or any other good old city, town, or borough, in the good old world!

The end.

“Videos of Tucker Carlson make my day, as long as I can shake off the stupidity of whomever he is debating arguing with.”

Totally agree. Many of the idiot libs he has on are repeat performers. He needs to get some new dumb ass libs….there are plenty of them. One of the acts on recently looks like Howdy Doody’s grand daughter with brain to match.

I think it really helps that McCain is on his deathbed, Orrin Hatch is senile, and Flake has been humiliated, leaving the only passionate GOP advocate for amnesty to be the ugly intensely unlikable Lindsey Graham.

Tucker is the best commentator on Fox, but he has the problem of throwing his idiot guests a bone, by giving some credence to their inane views. He should go on the attack and give them no quarter….concede nothing.

My question is this: Who are these people voting for Lindsey Graham? In South Carolina of all places? It’s unfrigginbelievable, I mean what the hell?

Same goes for Paul Ryan and Juan McCain.

Why are they still here…

There is a significant infrastructure that has been built up around immigration, and the task involves dismantling this infrastructure.

Consider what this support/enabling group consists of:

1) half the House and Senate
2) a large chunk of the federal judiciary
3) half or better of your state and local politicians
4) a large and growing number of lawyers that work in immigration law
5) Eighty percent of the media
6) a large number of NGOs and charities work to mainline immigrants and refugees into the country
7) the usual business interests
8) the citizenry either brainwashed; friends of above groups; the ethnic and “change” advocates that have seized on immigration as a weapon
9) foreign countries and their infrastructure that has been built up to send minions abroad in service to remittance/population release/staking out more of the globe for their brand; (Europe’s no help here, with its quest to eradicate itself, but it also has become a scary example to avoid)

and more.

A huge dismantling task.

Yes, Tucker is great.

Lou Dobbs back some years ago was known as an immigration patriot, but he wasn’t as bright as Tucker Carlson.

Lou, in the mid aughts while at CNN, was operating under a different zeitgeist than exists today. Strikes me as rather unfair to say he “wasn’t as bright”. The time wasn’t right (ripe?) for the movement– the masses were quite content taking cash-out mortgages and living above their means.

Case in point: Tucker himself was on CNN around the same time doing the show Crossfire. Why didn’t he head up an immigration restriction movement then? Had a great platform. Up until the last year, Liberals loved to post the clip of when Jon Stewart appeared on Crossfire and “destroyed” Tucker Carlson, claiming it led to his departure from CNN. Pretty funny how that isn’t brought up anymore.

Another factor unrelated to intelligence is work politics– what will their bosses allow them to harp on? Then they were both at CNN, now they’re at FOX and FOX Business.

And one last factor is social media/internet culture. This brings out the best arguments from around the web. Tucker’s staff can easily pick out great arguments/talking points for him. There were blogs 12-15 years ago, but there is so much more now, and then best stuff gets collated and upvoted/repeated.

E Pluribus Unum-sounds quite pro-diversity

It means like minded people unite so as to be stronger in repelling threats.

Now we are divided and weakened and on course to be displaced by people who will remove that slogan from consideration.

Fox News has really stepped up and is playing the Fourth Estate role that you would hope for from a free press. Maybe the whole “Russia Collusion” hysteria has been a blessing in disguise, because that is what really got the Hannity/Carlson axis rolling and at war with the Deep State. There just was not time to weaponize phrases like “Putin-lover” and “pawn of the Kremlin” the way “racist” and “xenophobe” have been. Now the battle lines are drawn and the conflict is spilling over to the immigration debate. Tucker has gone full Alt-Right and Hannity and Ingraham are not far behind. This is going to get really interesting.

The MSM is already playing up the stories of what — two, three teenagers in tears because they might have to go back to their own countries. If we didn’t know better we’d be amazed at how much mileage the MSM can get out of just two or three stories.

As others here have noted, if uprooting yourself from “the country you know” and moving to another one is so deeply traumatic, then why are we promoting so much of it in the other direction?

How about America is an idea and an ID, in the form of a biometric Social Security Card?

I’m amazed Carlson was on CNN as late as 2005 and PMSNBC as late as 2008 … both were well into BDS by those dates.

Sick of winning yet?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-to-pay-38-billion-in-repatriation-tax-plans-new-u-s-campus-1516215419

Money quote:

Mr. Cook touted the plans as building on Apple’s support for the U.S. economy. “We have a deep sense of responsibility to give back to our country and the people who help make our success possible,” he said in a statement.

2018 is going to rock. Don’t sweat the midterms.

Another tell that things are going in a positive direction will be when Americans stop dressing in gunny sacks like they do now.

Steve Sailer:

“Perhaps Lindsey Graham is not a person, just an idea.”

What a terrible comparison. The difference, of course, is that a person is a very precisely defined entity, defined as the physical and personality characteristics of a human being, and cannot be an idea except in metaphorical/allegorical terms.

Conversely, a nation is not only a physical entity defined as it’s territory, but also an abstract juridical/political entity. Because it is an abstract juridical construct on top of being a geographical construct, it can absolutely be an idea, unlike a person. The idea of a nation is defined in it’s Constitution, and in it’s traditions. America has always been a nation defined by it’s civil liberties and individual rights, and by being an immigrant country. Immigration has always been at the heart of America as an idea, since for more than 150 years until the early 2oth century, immigration contributed even more than birth to the population growth.

Absolutely terrible, Sailer. Please try again.

I wasn’t familiar with Tucker’s earlier tv career because I don’t watch that much tv. I’ve known about him for years though. Tucker regularly appeared on the Bubba the Love Sponge radio show for many years. Yes, I am admitting that I listened to the Bubba the Love Sponge show. He still might, but I don’t listen to it anymore. Bubba is the Tampa Bay radio show host who taped his wife with Hulk Hogan, indirectly causing the downfall of Gawker. It appeared that Tucker and Bubba had a genuine friendship, and Tucker would visit him when he was in Florida. He came across as friendly, self-deprecating, and intellectually honest, and would engage in conversations about politics, culture, guns, sex, his family, or whatever, never declining to discuss anything.

Tucker was the only mainstream journalist that displayed the slightest interest in or fairness towards the Ron Paul/Liberty movement in 2007-2008 rather than dismissing them all as loons.

Sure, Ron Paul was a deeply flawed candidate, esp. with the Lew Rockwell cohort and such, but he and his ideas had been around forever. Tucker perceived that at least some of the popularity Paul & his ideas were getting was indication of growing political alienation that couldn’t find expression elsewhere.

Whether one agreed with Paul or not, it was a phenomena worth examining with an open mind, i.e., why is this happening, which Tucker did rather than going full Pravda slander mode like the rest of the MSM did.

No, “future immigrants” are the most pressing issue. As Steve says, the first thing you do when you find yourself in a hole is stop digging.

That would be awesome. I would totally watch it, at least once. Maybe have Miller on there as a guest.

Before throwing quite so many stones, you need to brush up on history, basic logic, and yes–grammar and punctuation. You may call this nitpicking but as is, your prose is tendentious without being coherent.

I’m all for setting aside part of North America for its British heritage population. You have to qualify for admission to DAR, SAR or the United Empire Loyalists to be eligible for admission. No German ’48ers, Jews or other 19th-century latecomers need apply. A big downside is I think we would get stuck with Lindsey Graham.

Magic dirt on a continental scale.

The GOP controls Congress and Lindsay Graham negotiates an immigration bill with Dems. Trump knowing what he wants but is not mired in details invites guys who agree with him, Cotton & Goodlatte.

These guys know policy and proceed to breakdown Lindsey’s deal. Trump hits the roof, Lindsay was trying to pull a fast one and is now exposed. He then asks Lindsay how many Republicans actually support it. Lindsay doesn’t even know he pitches the bill yesterday to GOP Senators only 6 agree. Even if McConnell allowed it to the floor to a vote it would not pass.

Lindsay Graham is a bad joke on the country and for conservatives.

During the Oprah boomlet, Bill Kristol offered some high praise for Gayle King’s good buddy. Carlson noted this by prefacing it that Kristol had briefly torn himself away from spoiling to invade Iran to praise Stedman Graham’s beard. Carlson has burned and then nuked any bridge he had to Conservatism Inc.

On the other hand, Stewart was bitch-slapped by time and poor genetics: as the kids would put it, he seems old AF. His act is about as fresh as a Jerry Lewis telethon.

Tucker is the most iSteve-y TV host ever. He should have you on. I could see you becoming a regular, ala Mark Steyn.

What I’d tune in for…

“Now here to discuss the Iran sanctions and Ambassador Nikki Haley’s comments today is Brother Nathanael.”

The idea of a nation is defined in it’s Constitution, and in it’s traditions.

And these are supported by what? Ideas?

Nick, if we removed all the people currently living in the United States and replaced them with, say, people currently living in China or Afghanistan, then surely you must see that our Constitution would be interpreted in a vastly different way and our traditions thrown out the window.

It’s the same with the less extreme but still ridiculously high rates of immigration that we have today. The country changes very quickly. Traditions disappear at light speed. Many of the people living here today also grew up here and don’t want their country to change so rapidly. It’s a matter of too much, too soon. Does this make them bad people?

I was going to remark how strange it is that Graham is considered the pre-eminent spokesman (-person?) of the Republican Party in the senate. But when you put it the way you do, Berty, it’s clearer to me that he’s just the vestigial relic of the former generation of leaders. I assume he’s the survivor because he’s younger (?) than those others you mentioned. But he’s really of their class, and their heyday is a remote memory.

America the body politic was founded explicitly and implicitly as a nation with hegemonic English-language European culture, a largely European population, and “acting white” (in the parlance of our urban fellow citizens) as being normative. Any other “political” or “juridical” ideas derive exclusively from this prime and essential idea and are secondary to it. The nation grew with (largely European) immigrants who submitted to this hegemony, and in our wars hundreds of thousands of farm boys were willing to die for the glory of home and hearth, not for strange jurisprudences.

To take your metaphor further Nick, Lindsey Graham is a sick individual, and the nation of America that has turned away from its steady founding principles in order to become a Balkan ethnic menagerie is like a sick, schizophrenic patient.

It’s really difficult not to hate Lindsey Graham.

No, it’s not really difficult not to hate Lindsey Graham, it is impossible. He and McCain are traitors pretending to act in the interest of America.

for them, no jobs, for instance, full eVerify. I don’t see that happening in the near future.

I read a similar sentiment on this blog with great frequency regarding the impossibility of Trump’s election, prior to the election.

I’ll bet your definition of ‘near’ is actually ‘now.’

The “American Idea” is the rule-of-law. There’s nothing in the U.S. Constitution to suggest that the U.S. is a “nation of immigrants.”

Immigration to the U.S. was encouraged during the 19th century to populate depopulated areas of the U.S. (cf, standing army) and also to provide labor for the industrial revolution.

The U.S. no longer has depopulated territories.

There is no industrial revolution that requires immigrant labor.

The U.S. would likely be better off reducing its population thereby reducing our carbon footprint and reducing burdens on water supplies, etc.

The only reason Democrats, elitists, globalist, etc. want immigration is to divide (i.e., diversify) and conquer the native population of the U.S. The native, nationalist population stands in the way of globalism.

Aside, isn’t it interesting that nationalism is often associated with Nazism but socialism and “propagandism” aren’t. Although Nazi isn’t a portmanteau of propaganda, “propagandism” is a far greater defining characteristic of Nazism than either nationalism or socialism. Lots of countries have nationalism, socialism, and ethnocentrism but they’re just not that effective at getting their message out.

But what idea would Lindsey Graham be?

The Peter Principle.

Then again, if the exception proves the rule, the Senator is at great risk of disproving it.

It is amazing to think that Dobbs was ever on CNN or Tucker at MSNBC, for that matter.

They were probably good for ratings, and there is a sort of logic to playing to different groups in different timeslots, but still I wonder if management changed. Or maybe just became more radicalized.

Brevity is the soul of wit (and a compelling argument), and Tucker is much more articulate and convincing than I’ll ever be, but if there’s one more point I wish Tucker had made it’s the contradiction between the Left’s belief in diversity and their belief that America is just an idea.

The Left believes that differences matter, but also believes that America is simply an idea. An “idea” sounds fun and interesting and possibly exhilarating, but what they really mean is that America is a system – an organization – into which you could plug any random set of (DIVERSE!) people (let’s call them “organization men”) and get the same result, the diversity of the people in question being irrelevant.

If diversity doesn’t meaningfully change the outcome, then why do we need it? And if it can change the outcome then why aren’t we allowed to question whether the outcome could be worse? Or maybe not worse, but just different in a way the original group of people would not prefer?

Anyone who’s ever had to manage a workforce can tell you that differences matter – that the “cogs” which comprise the system alter it’s performance. The cogs aren’t interchangeable. Diversifying your cogs (especially with Central American or Brazilian cogs) doesn’t necessarily improve the system or make it perform better.

I’ve never gotten a good answer on this. America is an idea? Whose idea? When you no longer hold the idea do we revoke your America-card? When you’re near 90% white you don’t have to think too critically about this. At 64% and dropping, the fault lines are showing.

Well done.

Ideas are post hoc constructs; they have no existence outside the people holding them in their heads. People make countries: Liberia has a scrupulously rights-oriented charter; it’s still a shithole.

The Peter Principle–I like that. Works on different levels.

Tucker rocks! don’t Fu*k with the Tuck. Cardenas his alderman guest last night, who Tucker called a “loathsome racist” with Cardenas snarling out his ‘ blue eyes and blonde hair’ comment which reminds you of Rolling Stones Erdely with her comment about the “overwhelmingly blonde students” at Uva.
Like blonde hair and blue eyes are marks of leper.
There is no pleasing these people. They want you to die if you are White, to disappear forever but leave the assets. But barring that, at best you will provide the government services for the POC, the way it works in Ssouth Africa and California now.
In South Africa in a country of roughly 60 million people, less than 4 million pay tax and almost 90 percent of them are white.

the current administration is having trouble deporting convicted criminal aliens….

The DACA recipients will never be deported, even if DACA is ruled unconstitutional tomorrow. This is one reason the democrats are not willing to compromise with Trump and fund the wall or end the diversity Lottery.

Ending the Diversity Lottery would produce better results than the wall, keeping out more muslims than the so-called muslim ban and keeping out people from shithole nations.

Ending the Diversity Lottery and funding the wall would be a good compromise in return for granting residency to 800,000 Mexicans. The Diversity Lottery brings in 25,000 Africans each year and 9,000 Asian muslims each year….the 30,000 muslims admitted each year via the diversity lottery then sponsor 3 family members…The diversity Lottery is the main reason our muslim population has doubled since 2001.

OT: Obama is learning that for South Side residents, the answer to the question “how much is enough” will always be just a little bit more. Rahm deserves bonus points for saying that opening a branch of the Chicago Public library at the President Center could be transformative for the neighborhood.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/protesters-demanding-obama-sign-community-benefits-agreement-make-voices-heard/

The problem with E-verify is that the employers won’t use it.

No self-respecting idea would submit to such lowly embodiment.

No, Tucker was still a kid back then. Wolfe was using Ted Kennedy, who was famous for his jowls among other things, as the model for the decadent Beltway mover and shaker.

OT:

Don’t worry, Hillary can still be president!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hillary-clinton-could-still-become-president-expert/ar-AAuQti8

This is demonstrably false gibberish. A nation is its people. The geographical boundaries and the institutions that govern that country are determined by who populates the nation. The borders, ideas and social outcomes of a country are secondary to the people that inhabit the nation because the former are constructs of the population. Absent white people and their civil institutions, Tijuana can never be San Diego though both share similar ideal areas.

This is because people create, maintain and vote for those institutions that govern a society. Given a new set of people, those National organizations change to suit the demands of those neo-denizens and their rulers. This is an iron-clad law of reality.

Liberia took the same constitution and same ideals that America was founded upon and it floundered into a nightmare. Though the ideas and the political entity of that nation were made in the image of America, they devolved into the modern construction that is shithole Liberia. This is because those American ideas could not work given the people that lived within Liberia and also did not reflect the Liberians choices of governing political, economic and civil institutions.

If the Liberian people were moved elsewhere, they would choose similar outcomes. The best evidence of this assertion are the squalid, violent coastal cities of Brazil and coastal Central America occupied by west Africans like Recife, Natal, Salvador, etc. Further evidence of this is seen in the orderly, totalitarian state of Singapore populated mostly by ethnic Chinese. Singapore populated and governed by Malays would look more akin to Malacca, Padang or Jakarta. A mix of these population outcomes is seen in Kuala Lumpur.

Likewise, attempts to coerce modern Greece to adopt a Northern European economic system have drowned under the weight of the choices of the people that inhabit Greece. Absent a dictatorship, a foreign economic or political system will fail if it is not the choice of the people.

People make the nation

I had long proposed cutting a sort of amnesty deal on those offshore holdings, where corporations would get a break in the tax rate in exchange for bringing the money back onshore. The article doesn’t seem to indicate that there were any special concessions made. I wonder if this was inspired by the recent cut in the corporate tax rate, and Apple has decided to take advantage of the lowered rate while it lasts.

How long till the SJW crowd starts organizing an advertiser boycott against Tucker?

I’d say go after # 7, the employers. That is the big draw. The employers of illegals have recruiters bringing in illegal workers. The employers even have 800 numbers in Central America to make it easier for prospective illegals to call the recruiters.

And of course as soon as one illegal gets a job, he becomes the HR department. If more workers are needed, employer tells him to call his home village.

Now, it is Tucker Carlson whose ideas and arguments everybody follows, and Jon Stewart who is wandering in the wilderness.

This has to be one of the most satisfying Last Laughs in media history.

I am simply amazed at the sheer quantity of talk today about immigration, both about the specific policies and about the underlying philosophy.

The media’s obsession with Trump really is backfiring. Of course, 90% of its stories are negative, but what is likely more important is that the amount of news coverage Trump gets is, according to a recent study, 3X the coverage Obama got at comparable stages in his Presidency.

You can’t ignore a guy with coverage like that. Everything he says people will pay attention to. That should be the last thing the media and the Dems would want, but they can’t stop themselves.

This is how much discussion we’re getting on immigration just one year into Trump’s Presidency. Think of how much more we’ll get in total before the end of his first term. It’s likely to be a very different zeitgeist at that point, I’d think.

320 million New Zealanders might not be so bad.

Didn’t Graham once defend the Confederate flag in SC? “This is part of who we are” he allegedly said. I guess by “we” he meant code jockeys from Mumbai.

“Orrin Hatch is senile”

I just read this little gem about Hatch last night:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg

“President Bill Clinton nominated her as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court on June 14, 1993, to fill the seat vacated by retiring Justice Byron White. Ginsburg was recommended to Clinton by then-U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno[12] after a suggestion by Utah Republican Senator Orrin Hatch”

**Sigh**. With Republicans like this, do we even need to worry about the Democrats?

ATTENTION STEVE SAILER: I am aware that I have used this video repeatedly, but it’s a keeper and highly relevant and I am on camera using the only Matt Fong joke/reference in the history of the New Hampshire presidential primary. This video is from Dave Weigel. Moderate it on through!

Lindsey Graham says that the United States is just an idea. This notion that America is just an “idea” is the foundational line of globaloney nonsense from the WASP / Jew ruling class.

Lindsey Graham is a nasty little whore for the Neo-Conservatives and the American Empire profiteers. Lindsey Graham is a Baby Boomer Cuckservative who will not fight for the best interests of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States. Lindsey Graham puts the interests of foreigners, Israel and the globalizers ahead of the interests of the United States as a whole.

Watch Lindsey Graham respond to my 2015 town hall question on immigration, national identity and foreign policy by saying that “I believe it is our God-given requirement to help those who struggle for their freedom” and “I believe in America as an idea” in this video:

If America is ‘an idea,’ then people truly are interchangeable.

Let the Elites put that to the test. Let them pay white deplorables to leave. If 12 million of us – non-rich white Gentiles who are not Liberal and are at least nominally Christian – leave this ‘idea,’ and we are replaced by 3 million Numinous Negroes from Haiti and Jamaica (as citizens of the Americas, they will assimilate very easily), 3 million Mexicans/Central Americans (see above for their easy, natural assimilation), 3 million brown Mohammedans (because according to 75% or more of Jews, if we do not give Affirmative Action to Mohammedans we are just itching to gas Jews), and 3 million East Asians.

If the US makes that investment that proves its faith in the nation as an ‘idea,’ then America will become a Rainbow Paradise.

Many fewer white Gentiles – leaving only the gay ones and atheist ones and socialist ones and thoroughly Judaizing Evangelical ones – and many more blacks and browns will prove the issue.

Tucker is the most iSteve-y TV host ever. He should have you on. I could see you becoming a regular, ala Mark Steyn.

Please Sailer, do it! Your donations will double!

I’m fearing he, like Macron, merely exists to drive alt-right to him so he can subsume them and morph them into neocons like the Tea Party was subsumed and destroyed.

The other day, somebody said, he wished, Thomas Pynchon would read a certain post. Now I follow in the footsteps of this somebody (D Pinsen) – yesterday, or the day before: –

- This qoute of yours above would make for a decent plot point in a possibly pretty Faustian Pynchon novel about our current state of mind.

(Some of the characters of this novel would resemble reversed (or maybe even better: immersed?!) versions of Houdini, I’d assume – I imagine a character, who’s overwhelmed by his ablitity to bind nobody else than – him – – himself – a virtuoso brother of Till Eulenspiegel and Don Quchotte).

ok, ok – I’m only fantasising – no pun intended – “peace brother”, please, etc. pp., “only peace ‘n’ piece” (TheFabolous Furry Freak Brothers) …

(My last remark shows me (=reveals – to me), just how strong this paranoia-matrix really is – – – he, h’, h’… – “we’re all prisoners here, of our own device” /The Eagles, who’s Hotel California is pretty Pynchonite stuff anyhow… -ohh, ohhhh….).

Thomas Pynchon – If you please – In the city- – – – of Lost Angeles (Colosseum – this song of them is so good – and so present, now that I think of it, even though I haven’t heard it in this millenium – not even once, I swear, oh yeah, oh yeah…

(Interrupted by Them Ol’ Cosmic Blues Again, Mama . . . bzzzzz ….bzzzzz…).

Tucker’s show’s problem is that he has the same few idiots on to argue with.
He needs to expand the idiot list.
It is quite shocking to see how unintellectual and stupid the other side is.
After a while, it is just not entertaining.

The other night he had on Heather Macdonald, Victor Davis Hanson, and Mark Steyn.
Pretty good stuff, but maybe too highbrow for that time slot.
Plus those guests (except for maybe Mark Steyn) need longer time slots to be effective.

Too bad. I like him.Tucker gets it on immigration. He’s a decent debater. Hope he makes it with few tweaks of the format.

The difference, of course, is that a person is a very precisely defined entity, defined as the physical and personality characteristics of a human being, and cannot be an idea except in metaphorical/allegorical terms.

Nick, it’s nice to see you agree that “race is a social construct” and “gender is a social construct” are quite obviously nonsense.

I used to worry about Bill O’Reilly. He was the biggest thing in Cable News – Broadcast News too. But Bill was getting on in years. I couldn’t see a successor anywhere in sight. Hannity was too partisan and Kelly would soon self immolate. Who could anchor the whole news evening the way O’Reilly did for what? twenty years?

Then Fox News which had always had a ton of beautiful women on camera ran into a storm of male biology. Now it wasn’t enough to be smart and hard working you had to also be a monk. Who could they get who could look but not touch? And since Fox had defined its strategy as moderately conservative and almost all of the prospective male anchors from other networks were rabid crypto-Marxists, it looked hopeless.

There was a period of confusion and disorganization and out of the chaos emerged Tucker Carlson whom we had seen knocking around the news for years but whom we thought of as just a “pretty boy” news reader a sort of male eye candy air-head.

But God must like Fox because Carlson is a happy surprise second only to the surprise of Donald Trump. Carlson’s interviews are routinely taped and shown on YouTube. O’Reilly always praised his own interviewing abilities. But Carlson is better, much better and the public seems to know it.

First of all O’Reilly always struggled to get major political celebrities to come on his show. He complained about it all the time. But it’s easy to understand why. O’Reilly viewed an interview as a zero sum game. The interviewee was expected to lose. Or big Bill might blow a fuse and scream at the guest. And of course O’Reilly had his stable of sycophantic comedians and acolytes who never challenged him. Finally it was usually clear that the guests who did consent to submit to one of his interviews also often hated his guts. With Bill there was lots of psychodrama but with Carlson there is more actual news.

Everyone likes Tucker and those that don’t are still careful to be scrupulously polite. Tucker’s guest dare not be obnoxious because Tucker is so polite and fair minded if they succumb to their darker impulses and try to savage him verbally, they will look like an ass on national TV.

So it worked out just fine for Fox. Carlson elevates the tone of the main Fox News evening news show and simultaneously has more substantive guests and discussions than heretofore.

Yeah, I guess he’s reached the age where he feels comfortable trusting in common sense. 15 years ago, not so much. He must have spent some time in the wilderness.

OT

This may become a famous – notorious – interview with Jordan Peterson and is worth watching simply to marvel at the bone-headed nothingness of one of Britain’s star interviewers. She has nothing but her own smugness; he is sharp, cool and logical.

(Apologies if this has already been posted.)

but I still don’t trust the cuck; he’s been a Washington insider far too long, and is a proud swamp resident.

Tucker crossed the Rubicon with that Politico piece he wrote on Trump in January 2016: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572

It was a great, great piece and starts off with an anecdote that suggests his maturation after that Bonfire of the Hannities moment with Stewart.

The most important part of the piece was lighting the conservative establishment on fire – Tucker was the first swamp creature to do so, IIRC. Really called them on the carpet.

The Anton Flight 93 piece got all the attention, but that Carlson piece was the best piece of pro-Trump punditry in the race.

The idea of a nation is defined in it’s Constitution, and in it’s traditions. America has always been a nation defined by it’s civil liberties and individual rights, and by being an immigrant country.

No, America was defined by the (primarily) anglo-saxon people who founded it. It was regulated by its laws, like this one:

United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (March 26, 1790).

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof on application to any common law Court of record in any one of the States wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such Court that he is a person of good character, and taking the oath or affirmation prescribed by law to support the Constitution of the United States, which Oath or Affirmation such Court shall administer, and the Clerk of such Court shall record such Application, and the proceedings thereon; and thereupon such person shall be considered as a Citizen of the United States. And the children of such person so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizens of the United States. And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.

http://www.indiana.edu/%7Ekdhist/H105-documents-web/week08/naturalization1790.html

Looks like Bret Stephens has been reading the comments section!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/18/opinion/jews-immigration-america.html

Subversion? During the campaign, Donald Trump said at a New Hampshire rally that Syrian refugees “could make the Trojan horse look like peanuts.” His campaign then infamously called for “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.”

Similar charges have long been leveled at Jews. Henry Ford accused Jews of causing the First World War. A generation later, famed aviator Charles Lindbergh charged Jews with trying to inveigle the United States into war. Lindbergh was the leading champion in his day of “America First.” Still later, Jewish “neocons” somehow became the shadowy instigators of America’s wars in the Middle East.

That last part may not be the exact point he was intending to make.

The change in Carlson’s thinking started some time ago and is, I think, genuine. Like Ann Coulter did, he came to see the neo-con agenda as disastrous for the country, and recognized that immigration was turning the country into one where any kind of conservative governance would no longer be possible.

One of the best things he did on his show was start bringing on more people to interview. Most FOX shows consist of FOX news personalities interviewing other FOX News personalities (The other cable networks don’t seem to be any different). How many times do we need to hear the opinion of Charles Krauthammer or John Bolton (the evil-looking Captain Kangaroo)? Carlson brought on new people – people who weren’t on contract to FOX – professors and authors who presumably knew something about their area of expertise, rather than just pundits. He even had James Howard Kunstler on his show, which is a big stretch for FOX.

Tucker Carlson has 1.49 million followers on Twitter. Wow. TV grabs the eyeballs. TV must be recaptured by White Core American Patriots when the time comes.

2015 Tweet:

Tucker Carlson Suggests Ending Muslim Immigration To Protect America

Mass Immigration Brings Terrorism To America

Tucker Carlson Suggests Ending Muslim #Immigration to Protect America https://t.co/PY3BVpoIso MASS IMMIGRATION=TERRORISM #nhpolitics

— Charles Pewitt (@CharlesPewitt) May 14, 2015

Shorter Stephens: If Jews can assimilate, why can’t Haitians?

America is about the idea of equality. We can achieve this ideal by bringing in millions of poor foreigners. They are willing to work cheaply, driving down wages for the poor and middle classes while increasing profits for the donor class. This is how equality is created.

The only difficulty is that if Graham is the only vocal proponent of anmisty in the GOP the other three are votes for it. That is 4 plus 49 democrats makes 53 to 47. If a few others such as Collins, Portman, Gardener, Tillis, Burr, Corker and Rubio do not vote with the demos. Can’t count on the House of Representatives to hold back the tide. Throw in Senators Toomey, Sasse, Scott and Johnson and it is close to 2/3 rds.

TV is over; it’s now only being watched by senile boomers.

Behold, the world’s…seventh most important graph:

Their main medium of controlling the message and just like that it’s gone, over, finished. That is one reason why they’ve lately become so hysterical.

It’s utterly absurd to watch, say, Bill Kristol talking to James Carville about what “they” should do about running the country. It’s like watching a homeless person pantomime sitting down for tea with an invisible Queen of England. Look, mama, I put on my serious tie and im using my big boy voice to pretend im running the world! Utterly insane and they will never forgive Trump for proving it.

We should be MUCH more concerned about how they’ve moved on to try suppressing the internet. Our enemies discovered we slaughter them in the world of really free speech; I thought they were more in on the joke but these idiots like Thomas Friedman actually believed they have elite stuff and not just elite position. Well, the internet has answered that empirical question and the results have been cataclysmic for entitled media brats.

What I’m saying is we didn’t need to hope they would “let” us on the internet; we were just doing it and winning. Now they want to make the internet like their TV: fake news gaslighting us behind a locked gate.

I’m shocked the shuttering of Anglins site wasn’t a bigger story. NEVER before had anyone dreamed of getting someone “kicked off the internet”; the idea would have been considered incoherent on its face. Our supposedly pro-free speech media has mostly praised the attempts to violently suppress speech in this case.

Anyone with any kind of platform who hasn’t gone to bat for the Daily Stormer on this is an idiot. It has nothing to do with whether you “like” Anglin because he won’t be the last. You can’t let them draw the line in front of him because once they have a line they will move it. Forward. And forward. And forward.

I agree “Send more Somalis” is not a very good new national motto. I suggest “Save the whales”.

We still hunt and kill whales most of whose meat ends up in cans of dog food. I love dogs so I’m not advocating abolishing dog food. But there is a better source of virtually free meat for pet food that does not require the slaughter of whales.

I’m speaking of course of illegal aliens. If and when we capture someone trying to break into our nation by climbing our soon-to-be-built border wall, we should slay them and can them for pet food.

Repeat after me – “Save the whales”.

Tucker said something interesting about his neo-con mistake that many people wouldn’t have admitted.

I’m paraphrasing but he said the mistake he made was not basing his position on what he actually felt the stronger arguments were. Instead, he had “listened to someone much smarter than me” and decided his instincts must be wrong.

(he didn’t name the person and im not sure if we’re supposed to know who he means–someone like Hitchens who was formidable at cocktail parties or does he think someone in the administration like wolfowitz is smart? It’d be interesting to know who they sent out to convince smart, sincere people like Tucker who didn’t just want to be bought)

lol.

is stephens suggesting we can’t explain the steps of his “somehow” in detail?

and he forgot one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_spies

Lou Dobbs went from CNN to Fox, now has his own daily show on Fox Business Network and is still a fierce critic of our immigration policies. Further, he was on the Trump Train from almost day one, maybe even Day 1, just can’t recall.

He stood tall against all the Manhattanites and Wall Street global shills through it all. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump didn’t get much of his stuff from watching Lou back in the day.

You can’t ignore a guy with coverage like that. Everything he says people will pay attention to. That should be the last thing the media and the Dems would want, but they can’t stop themselves.

I’ve never seen (a) this amount of media coverage of a President and (b) public interest in the coverage. The media went crazy with both JFK and Bill Clinton, but not even they match the Trump obsession. In a landscape where news channels are lucky to tread water ratings-wise, you could probably launch a new channel following All Donald, All The Time and it would soon be #1.

Dave Weigel covered Lindsey Graham’s March 2015 visit to New Hampshire when Graham was preparing for the presidential primary. The town hall was held at a private location with a roaring fire that was roasting the room.

At this town hall type meeting, I had the chance to ask Lindsey Graham about American national identity, immigration and foreign policy. These topics ended up being the ones that Trump tapped into to win the GOP nomination and the presidency.

Dave Weigel wrote this in 2015:

As the heat rises—literally—Graham scouts for hostile questions. Charles Pewitt, a town-hall regular who wants to grill the next president about immigration, butts into a Graham explanation of why reform wouldn’t depress wages. When Graham finishes that answer, he points right at Pewitt, who asks a wordy question about whether Graham thinks America is a coherent nation or some polyglot theory.

“The rhetoric that you’re hearing today has been spoken in the past,” says Graham, scanning past Pewitt to his fellow skeptics in the crowd. “Any of you Irish? Well, your ancestors ran into signs that said No Irish Need Apply. Any Chinese people here? Well, one day maybe we’ll get some Chinese Republicans in New Hampshire. I hope so. You had to cut your ponytail off.” Graham walks back and forth in front of the fireplace, arms folded behind his back.

“America, to me, is an idea that makes a woman walk across the desert with her children.”

The cornpone and insta-friendliness of the campaign trail suits Graham. He’s got something pleasant to say to everyone who sticks around—even to Pewitt, whom he finds again and thanks for the “passion” of his question.

“I didn’t want to avoid him,” explains Graham. “He’s got a point of view that’s legitimate. Obviously, I’m in another spot. I think I’ve earned his respect if nothing else.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-03-10/in-new-hampshire-lindsey-graham-retools-the-straight-talk-express

Enoch Powell once said that even if Britain went Communist he would still be willing to fight for it. If you believe that America is made for its ‘posterity’ you would have to agree with him if America happened to go Communist.

You are conflating two entirely different notions of what a country means.

When Enoch Powell was talking about Britain, everyone at the time knew he was talking about the British people. A people, a nation, can survive a generation or three of bad economic decisions. As long as the people remain in control of their own country, they will eventually correct themselves and build a society that benefits their particular temperament as a people.

The founding fathers built America to benefit their posterity just as they claimed. The descendants of those founders created a new nation, a new people. And yes, if we as part of that people choose communism or socialism we will reap the benefits of that choice. It doesn’t mean we aren’t worth are fighting for as a people. My people may make mistakes, but they are still my people. I’m not a rootless cosmopolitan.

You are conflating the traditional meaning of nation as a people with the modern notion that a nation is just a legally defined economic zone to be administered and populated as the elites see fit. I have no loyalty to that idea of a nation.

Lindsey Graham (R-Democratic Party).

Slightly less short: “Hey, guess what? Since you let us in, that means you now have to let every other person in the world in! But surely, it wasn’t a mistake to let us in, right?”

But what idea would Lindsey Graham be?

Oh, I know, I know!

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Graham is younger but the primary reason is that since at least 2000 his entire career has consisted on following McCain around and agreeing with everything he says and does. And much like his benefactor he’s always mugging for the cameras and obnoxiously inserting himself into every possible debate. The key difference is that while McCain was loved by the media and was capable of making decent-sounding quotes, Graham isn’t and always gives the impression of a nasty asshole. It’s clear Trump was not willing to concede the high ground to Graham by his inclusion of Perdue and Cotton and Lindsey couldn’t handle it at all. It was beautiful.

I’m paraphrasing but he said the mistake he made was not basing his position on what he actually felt the stronger arguments were. Instead, he had “listened to someone much smarter than me” and decided his instincts must be wrong.

God bless Tucker Carlson, but there might have been financial and career considerations regarding his stance on prior positions on certain issues. Listening to people much “smarter” than you are and ditching your own instincts is a question of having the guts and personal intransigence to favor your own God-given nose for what is right and true.

The Iraq War was a debacle from the get-go. The conception and planning of the Iraq War was a nasty mess; the Neo-Conservatives treasonously cooked up the Iraq War to advance the foreign policy goals of Israel.

Mass immigration has been harming the United States since the 1965 Immigration Act kicked in. Some would argue that letting the ancestors of the Neo-Conservatives into the United States in the 1890-1924 great wave was a mistake.

The United States is a European Christian nation.

Those who believe, like Sam Huntington did, that the United States is a British Protestant nation have a damn good case too.

“Bonfire of the Hanitties” is brilliant.

I never understood the appeal of O’Reilly. He made my skin crawl every time I saw him, the few times I could bear it. I really felt he was an evil, sociopathic man.

He forgot to add (in genial manner), “Are you an American citizen? Then get out of the way. We’ve got someone to take your place! Vote Graham!”

“America, to me, is an idea that makes a woman walk across the desert with her children.”

but ideas dont do that for poor women with children. to make that sentence parse we have to add in the premise of an identity (idea=welfare gibs) of which most people are unaware.

granted, its been a long time since our mainstream politicians had any ideas besides squeezing white american workers so perhaps thats where the confusion came from.

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320 million New Zealanders would have to contain a mighty contingent of sheep.

A Modest Proposal, Mr. Boyle.