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War photographer Teun Voeten writes in Politico about trying to gentrify the Brussels neighborhood where so many terrorist plots are hatched:

I called Molenbeek my home for nine years. In 2005, it was the city’s last affordable neighborhood — in large part because of its bad reputation. My apartment, just across the canal from the city center, is close to the home where two suspects in the Paris attacks were based, and around the corner from where the shooter from the foiled Thalys attack in August had been staying.

I was part of a new wave of young urban professionals, mostly white and college-educated — what the Belgians called bobo, (“bourgeois bohémiens”) — who settled in the area out of pragmatism. We had good intentions. Our contractor’s name was Hassan. He was Moroccan, and we thought that was very cool. We imagined that our kids would one day play happily with his on the street. We hoped for less garbage on the streets, less petty crime. We were confident our block would slowly improve, and that our lofts would increase in value. (We even dared to hope for a hip art gallery or a trendy bar.) We felt like pioneers of the Far West, like we were living in the trenches of the fight for a multicultural society.

Slowly, we woke up to reality. Hassan turned out to be a crook and disappeared with €95,000, the entire budget the tenants had pooled together for our building’s renovation. The neighborhood was hardly multicultural. Rather, with roughly 80 percent of the population of Moroccan origin, it was tragically conformist and homogenous. There may be a vibrant alternative culture in Casablanca and Marrakech, but certainly not in Molenbeek.

Over nine years, I witnessed as the neighborhood become increasingly intolerant. Alcohol became unavailable in most shops and supermarkets; I heard stories of fanatics at the Comte des Flandres metro station who pressured women to wear the veil; Islamic bookshops proliferated, and it became impossible to buy a decent newspaper. With an unemployment rate of 30 percent, the streets were eerily empty until late in the morning. Nowhere was there a bar or café where white, black and brown people would mingle. Instead, I witnessed petty crime, aggression, and frustrated youths who spat at our girlfriends and called them “filthy whores.” If you made a remark, you were inevitably scolded and called a racist. There used to be Jewish shops on Chaussée de Gand, but these were terrorized by gangs of young kids and most closed their doors around 2008. Openly gay people were routinely intimidated, and also packed up their bags.

I finally left Molenbeek in 2014. It was not out of fear. The tipping point, I remember, was an encounter with a Salafist, who tried to convert me on my street. It boiled down to this: I could no longer stand to live in this despondent, destitute, fatalistic neighborhood.

Territorialism isn’t a fashionable concept in today’s discourse, but it sure is useful in explaining a lot of behavior.

By the way, Brussels today:

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  1. “(We even dared to hope for a hip art gallery or a trendy bar.)”

    What western culture and values have come down to.

    Not history, heritage, identity, race, and memory.

    Instead, some ‘hip’ gallery and ‘trendy’ bar.

    How vapid.

    “Rather, with roughly 80 percent of the population of Moroccan origin, it was tragically conformist and homogenous. There may be a vibrant alternative culture in Casablanca and Marrakech, but certainly not in Molenbeek.”

    Tragically conformist and homogeneous? Tragically?

    Wasn’t the Belgian city better when it had been ‘tragically’ homogeneous with whites?

    The problem isn’t conformism or homogeneity per se.

    The issue is homogeneous with whom. When a city is homogeneously white,
    it’s wonderful.

    When it is homogeneously Moroccan, it sucks in both Morocco and in Europe.

    And would the city have been any better if it had 30 different groups from all over Africa?
    Libya is now teeming with all sorts of blacks, and it’s ‘vibrant’ alright.
    Now, that is TRAGICALLY diverse and combustive.

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    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    I don't knock that. Basically normal desires and he was treated as a far right nazi for saying ya know, we have a problem here.
    , @TangoMan
    The issue is homogeneous with whom. When a city is homogeneously white,
    it’s wonderful.


    Plunk this guy down in the whiteopia of Portland and he'd be almost 100% happy but then the lack of diversity would start to bother him and he'd launch himself on a quest to improve Portland.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fonSqHNoWkQ

    You can't fix stupid.
    , @ben tillman

    Wasn’t the Belgian city better when it had been ‘tragically’ homogeneous with whites?
     
    Yep, and I'd bet that it was replete with hip galleries and trendy bars.
    , @Santoculto
    ''When a city is homogeneously white,
    it’s wonderful.''


    Less when you have Tzars, Sun King or ''british' capitalistics governing the city.
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  2. Fascinating perspective. The obvious liberal retort is that Belgium didn’t do enough to integrate.

    Even if that were true, it avoids the fact – living in this Islamic European enclave sucks all around.

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  3. I heard the British ex-politician Michael Portillo on a programme the other day saying that the threat from ISIS was not an existential threat because we were only talking about a few hundred people, and they could never take over the country. I think this shows how out of touch the political class can be about these issues.

    For most of us the terrorist attacks are about a lot more than just the terrorist attacks themselves. If the reaction of the public seems a little hysterical or overblown it is because these attacks are merely the visible, tangible tip of an iceberg, the remainder of which remains nameless and undescribed to those who feel it because it is something forbidden and something we have been trained not to notice. When these attacks happen they are a way of giving form and focus to a fear that must manifest itself in people as they experience the disconcerting reality of living in European cities which we know deep down are no longer safe for us, and which are no longer ours. It is a loss of territory, and what makes it all the more frightening is knowing that it is forbidden to mention the fact–and what it means that we are not allowed to mention the fact.

    The implictions are so enormous that people simply shut down. There is a lot of cognitive dissonance on this issue, which explains the ferocity of some of the arguments I have had with liberal friends.

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    • Replies: @Rob McX
    Of course Portillo was part of the British establishment that kept the borders open for decades, and he's trying to play down the effects of his treachery. Even if the number of terrorists were going to stay at a few hundred and the level of violence never went any higher than it's at now, it has altered life forever for indigenous Europeans. We're moving forward every day towards higher levels of surveillance, policing and disruption of our lives. I suspect that rail travellers will soon be subjected to the same infuriating delays and body searches (often by Third World "security" staff, just to add to the humiliation) as those who travel by plane. There's now talk of installing suicide bomber detection devices, hitherto deployed mainly in war zones, in all urban centres. And on it goes.
    , @Jack D

    ISIS was not an existential threat because we were only talking about a few hundred people
     
    Cortés conquered Mexico with 600 men.

    My neighbor had a huge tree in his yard which appeared to be perfectly healthy until one windy day the tree snapped and fell on his car, crushing it like a soda can. Luckily no one was hurt. After the tree fell you could see that even though the outside of the tree had seemed fine, no one had noticed until that windy day that termites had eaten the entire core of the tree from within, so it was just the shell of a tree, entirely hollow inside and so it was so weakened that a gust of wind was able to snap it like a toothpick.

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  4. What does he mean by “frustrated youth spitting at our girlfriends.”? Is he saying that muslims are frustrated by their inability to get with white women?

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    • Replies: @Big Bill
    They are "frustrated" because they cannot pork Muslim girls.

    If they DO pork Muslim girls they are executed by the girl's family.
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  5. Nowhere was there a bar or café where white, black and brown people would mingle.

    In other words:

    “You mean to say that kind of thing doesn’t actually exist outside the realms of sales, advertising and public relations?”

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  6. @Anon
    "(We even dared to hope for a hip art gallery or a trendy bar.)"

    What western culture and values have come down to.

    Not history, heritage, identity, race, and memory.

    Instead, some 'hip' gallery and 'trendy' bar.

    How vapid.

    "Rather, with roughly 80 percent of the population of Moroccan origin, it was tragically conformist and homogenous. There may be a vibrant alternative culture in Casablanca and Marrakech, but certainly not in Molenbeek."

    Tragically conformist and homogeneous? Tragically?

    Wasn't the Belgian city better when it had been 'tragically' homogeneous with whites?

    The problem isn't conformism or homogeneity per se.

    The issue is homogeneous with whom. When a city is homogeneously white,
    it's wonderful.

    When it is homogeneously Moroccan, it sucks in both Morocco and in Europe.

    And would the city have been any better if it had 30 different groups from all over Africa?
    Libya is now teeming with all sorts of blacks, and it's 'vibrant' alright.
    Now, that is TRAGICALLY diverse and combustive.

    I don’t knock that. Basically normal desires and he was treated as a far right nazi for saying ya know, we have a problem here.

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  7. Caliphate communities seem much more difficult to gentrify than say an older, mostly black neighbourhood like Harlem, if this case study is anything to go by. Though, in the London borough of Tower Hamlets (sometimes nicked named the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets) there has been some success with gentrification, especially in the new Canary Wharf district. Some residents of Tower Hamlets have been pushed further east to the boroughs of Newham and Barking and Dagenham.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It's also nicknamed 'Tower Minarets'.
    , @Simon in London
    Tower Hamlets has never been 80% Muslim, but yes there has been a conscious effort there to create an 'Islamic State'. Most Muslims don't live in such areas. I've seen the Muslim tide rise and recede in my old neighbourhood as it gentrified, so Muslim presence per se is not irreversible. I guess numbers are key, much above about 40% may be irreversible, certainly 60%.
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  8. You’d think if there’s one guy who’d feel at home in an Arab neighbourhood, it would be a war photographer.

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  9. Take a deep breath.

    Oṃ maṇi padme hūṃ. Diversity is our strength. Diversity is our strength. Diversity is our strength.

    There, feel better? Now close your eyes and go forth into the world secure in your delusion.

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  10. @Anon
    "(We even dared to hope for a hip art gallery or a trendy bar.)"

    What western culture and values have come down to.

    Not history, heritage, identity, race, and memory.

    Instead, some 'hip' gallery and 'trendy' bar.

    How vapid.

    "Rather, with roughly 80 percent of the population of Moroccan origin, it was tragically conformist and homogenous. There may be a vibrant alternative culture in Casablanca and Marrakech, but certainly not in Molenbeek."

    Tragically conformist and homogeneous? Tragically?

    Wasn't the Belgian city better when it had been 'tragically' homogeneous with whites?

    The problem isn't conformism or homogeneity per se.

    The issue is homogeneous with whom. When a city is homogeneously white,
    it's wonderful.

    When it is homogeneously Moroccan, it sucks in both Morocco and in Europe.

    And would the city have been any better if it had 30 different groups from all over Africa?
    Libya is now teeming with all sorts of blacks, and it's 'vibrant' alright.
    Now, that is TRAGICALLY diverse and combustive.

    The issue is homogeneous with whom. When a city is homogeneously white,
    it’s wonderful.

    Plunk this guy down in the whiteopia of Portland and he’d be almost 100% happy but then the lack of diversity would start to bother him and he’d launch himself on a quest to improve Portland.

    You can’t fix stupid.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "You can’t fix stupid."

    He's a dammy.
    , @RonaldB
    Haha.

    Do you see this guy is making a parody of fuzzy-headed liberals? The image he presents is too stupid for words, but he's making fun of diversity liberals.

    If nothing else, the giveaway is the bookcase background. The video is supposed to be a sequence over 3 years, but the book arrangement on the bookcase is exactly the same for each year in sequence. There's no way that would happen over 3 actual years.

    The guy is parodying the tendency of liberals to complain that when the situations they create go into the garbage, they blame the fact that their solution simply wasn't applied to a sufficient degree. He also parodies the total lack of any learning through experience by leftists.
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  11. Belgians should look at those pictures of security forces and military trucks on the street and ask themselves what has happened to bring this about.
    Belgian didn’t colonize Morocco or any Arab country so what does Belgian owe them.

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  12. “Territorialism isn’t a fashionable concept in today’s discourse, but it sure is useful in explaining a lot of behavior.”

    Several years ago I came across a Polynesian guy’s wallet, and went to his duplex in one of our city’s more “vibrant” neighborhoods to return it to him. When I knocked on his door he opened it with a “what the fuck are you doing in our part of town, haole?” look on him. It was a reaction that seemed not simply motivated by unfriendliness, but territorialism, too. I gave him his wallet. He grunted a vague sort of thank you, and closed the door.

    Yes, territorialism is still a big thing amongst the lesser forms of humanity, and it works, in a certain way. It keeps the neighborhoods affordable for NAMs by keeping out white would-be gentrifiers. It makes life more expensive for whites – who have to find decent neighborhoods a low NAM population – and less expensive for the NAMs. And all the NAMs have to do is behave like themselves.

    Whites, of course, can’t behave territorially anymore. If whites behaved in our neighborhoods the way NAMs routinely behave in theirs, the left-wing media would be in with cameras and the DOJ would send in armies of lawyers.

    I wouldn’t be shocked if the lack of “decent newspapers” in Molenbeek was due not to lack of demand for a decent newspaper, but to a conscious decision to deny products and services that would keep white gentrifiers away.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Whites, of course, can’t behave territorially anymore."

    Rob Reiner can behave very territorially about Malibu.
    , @Jack Hanson
    "Whites can't behave territorrially anymore"

    Speak for yourself. Not all whites are bobo gentrifiers.
    , @Jack D
    Probably because any haoles found in that part of town are usually cops or repo men or some other such unwelcome figure. Very rarely are they there to deliver good news.
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  13. @TangoMan
    The issue is homogeneous with whom. When a city is homogeneously white,
    it’s wonderful.


    Plunk this guy down in the whiteopia of Portland and he'd be almost 100% happy but then the lack of diversity would start to bother him and he'd launch himself on a quest to improve Portland.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fonSqHNoWkQ

    You can't fix stupid.

    “You can’t fix stupid.”

    He’s a dammy.

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  14. @Wilkey
    "Territorialism isn’t a fashionable concept in today’s discourse, but it sure is useful in explaining a lot of behavior."

    Several years ago I came across a Polynesian guy's wallet, and went to his duplex in one of our city's more "vibrant" neighborhoods to return it to him. When I knocked on his door he opened it with a "what the fuck are you doing in our part of town, haole?" look on him. It was a reaction that seemed not simply motivated by unfriendliness, but territorialism, too. I gave him his wallet. He grunted a vague sort of thank you, and closed the door.

    Yes, territorialism is still a big thing amongst the lesser forms of humanity, and it works, in a certain way. It keeps the neighborhoods affordable for NAMs by keeping out white would-be gentrifiers. It makes life more expensive for whites - who have to find decent neighborhoods a low NAM population - and less expensive for the NAMs. And all the NAMs have to do is behave like themselves.

    Whites, of course, can't behave territorially anymore. If whites behaved in our neighborhoods the way NAMs routinely behave in theirs, the left-wing media would be in with cameras and the DOJ would send in armies of lawyers.

    I wouldn't be shocked if the lack of "decent newspapers" in Molenbeek was due not to lack of demand for a decent newspaper, but to a conscious decision to deny products and services that would keep white gentrifiers away.

    “Whites, of course, can’t behave territorially anymore.”

    Rob Reiner can behave very territorially about Malibu.

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    • Replies: @IA
    Touché
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  15. @Wilkey
    "Territorialism isn’t a fashionable concept in today’s discourse, but it sure is useful in explaining a lot of behavior."

    Several years ago I came across a Polynesian guy's wallet, and went to his duplex in one of our city's more "vibrant" neighborhoods to return it to him. When I knocked on his door he opened it with a "what the fuck are you doing in our part of town, haole?" look on him. It was a reaction that seemed not simply motivated by unfriendliness, but territorialism, too. I gave him his wallet. He grunted a vague sort of thank you, and closed the door.

    Yes, territorialism is still a big thing amongst the lesser forms of humanity, and it works, in a certain way. It keeps the neighborhoods affordable for NAMs by keeping out white would-be gentrifiers. It makes life more expensive for whites - who have to find decent neighborhoods a low NAM population - and less expensive for the NAMs. And all the NAMs have to do is behave like themselves.

    Whites, of course, can't behave territorially anymore. If whites behaved in our neighborhoods the way NAMs routinely behave in theirs, the left-wing media would be in with cameras and the DOJ would send in armies of lawyers.

    I wouldn't be shocked if the lack of "decent newspapers" in Molenbeek was due not to lack of demand for a decent newspaper, but to a conscious decision to deny products and services that would keep white gentrifiers away.

    “Whites can’t behave territorrially anymore”

    Speak for yourself. Not all whites are bobo gentrifiers.

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  16. @al gore rhythms
    I heard the British ex-politician Michael Portillo on a programme the other day saying that the threat from ISIS was not an existential threat because we were only talking about a few hundred people, and they could never take over the country. I think this shows how out of touch the political class can be about these issues.

    For most of us the terrorist attacks are about a lot more than just the terrorist attacks themselves. If the reaction of the public seems a little hysterical or overblown it is because these attacks are merely the visible, tangible tip of an iceberg, the remainder of which remains nameless and undescribed to those who feel it because it is something forbidden and something we have been trained not to notice. When these attacks happen they are a way of giving form and focus to a fear that must manifest itself in people as they experience the disconcerting reality of living in European cities which we know deep down are no longer safe for us, and which are no longer ours. It is a loss of territory, and what makes it all the more frightening is knowing that it is forbidden to mention the fact--and what it means that we are not allowed to mention the fact.

    The implictions are so enormous that people simply shut down. There is a lot of cognitive dissonance on this issue, which explains the ferocity of some of the arguments I have had with liberal friends.

    Of course Portillo was part of the British establishment that kept the borders open for decades, and he’s trying to play down the effects of his treachery. Even if the number of terrorists were going to stay at a few hundred and the level of violence never went any higher than it’s at now, it has altered life forever for indigenous Europeans. We’re moving forward every day towards higher levels of surveillance, policing and disruption of our lives. I suspect that rail travellers will soon be subjected to the same infuriating delays and body searches (often by Third World “security” staff, just to add to the humiliation) as those who travel by plane. There’s now talk of installing suicide bomber detection devices, hitherto deployed mainly in war zones, in all urban centres. And on it goes.

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  17. Anyone able to actually get to the site & read the article? It wouldn’t open when I first saw this post (an hour ago maybe?) and still doesn’t. Are there enough iSteve readers that we’ve overloaded their server?

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  18. @Anonymous
    What does he mean by "frustrated youth spitting at our girlfriends."? Is he saying that muslims are frustrated by their inability to get with white women?

    They are “frustrated” because they cannot pork Muslim girls.

    If they DO pork Muslim girls they are executed by the girl’s family.

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    Actually no. The girl's family will execute HER.

    When you add their own quest to take anything that moves to that understanding then you understand why they are so determined to keep their own women wrapped in headscarfs and behind closed doors.
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  19. @Steve Sailer
    "Whites, of course, can’t behave territorially anymore."

    Rob Reiner can behave very territorially about Malibu.

    Touché

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  20. Nowhere was there a bar ….where white, black and brown people would mingle.

    Since Muslims don’t drink alcohol, why would they hang out in bars? Did he also imagine that he would share some pork chops with his imaginary new Muslim friends? This guy obviously did not think thru the implications of living with people from another culture/religion.

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    Moroccans in Morocco do go to bars. There are some quite decent bars in Casablanca and alcohol is widely available. One question is why Moroccans in Europe tend to become so much more intolerant and fanatical than their counterparts back home. One answer seems to be Saudi money spreading Wahabism among unemployed sexually frustrated young men.

    Saudi Arabia delenda est.
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  21. @Wilkey
    "Territorialism isn’t a fashionable concept in today’s discourse, but it sure is useful in explaining a lot of behavior."

    Several years ago I came across a Polynesian guy's wallet, and went to his duplex in one of our city's more "vibrant" neighborhoods to return it to him. When I knocked on his door he opened it with a "what the fuck are you doing in our part of town, haole?" look on him. It was a reaction that seemed not simply motivated by unfriendliness, but territorialism, too. I gave him his wallet. He grunted a vague sort of thank you, and closed the door.

    Yes, territorialism is still a big thing amongst the lesser forms of humanity, and it works, in a certain way. It keeps the neighborhoods affordable for NAMs by keeping out white would-be gentrifiers. It makes life more expensive for whites - who have to find decent neighborhoods a low NAM population - and less expensive for the NAMs. And all the NAMs have to do is behave like themselves.

    Whites, of course, can't behave territorially anymore. If whites behaved in our neighborhoods the way NAMs routinely behave in theirs, the left-wing media would be in with cameras and the DOJ would send in armies of lawyers.

    I wouldn't be shocked if the lack of "decent newspapers" in Molenbeek was due not to lack of demand for a decent newspaper, but to a conscious decision to deny products and services that would keep white gentrifiers away.

    Probably because any haoles found in that part of town are usually cops or repo men or some other such unwelcome figure. Very rarely are they there to deliver good news.

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  22. My wife used to be a reporter for AFP, and she wandered through Molenbeek twice when on her way to report on some EU stuff. She recognized the streets from recent news reports, and told me she’d never felt such a sense of alienation as she did during those brief walks along the canal anywhere else on earth, and she’s a native European. She even mentioned the eerie silence of the morning the guy brings up in the above article. Also the stares from strangers, who were probably wondering what on earth a white woman was doing walking through the neighborhood.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    After reading this post I did a little stroll of the area with Google Streetview.

    My initial impression was that the area looked reasonably nice. Somewhat rough around the edges - but more in the realm of blue-collar than 'ghetto'. There are some attractive residential buildings there, that wouldn't be out of place in Manhattan.

    It doesn't really look like a place of desperation to my eye, but I guess It's hard to get the feel without being there I suppose.
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  23. @al gore rhythms
    I heard the British ex-politician Michael Portillo on a programme the other day saying that the threat from ISIS was not an existential threat because we were only talking about a few hundred people, and they could never take over the country. I think this shows how out of touch the political class can be about these issues.

    For most of us the terrorist attacks are about a lot more than just the terrorist attacks themselves. If the reaction of the public seems a little hysterical or overblown it is because these attacks are merely the visible, tangible tip of an iceberg, the remainder of which remains nameless and undescribed to those who feel it because it is something forbidden and something we have been trained not to notice. When these attacks happen they are a way of giving form and focus to a fear that must manifest itself in people as they experience the disconcerting reality of living in European cities which we know deep down are no longer safe for us, and which are no longer ours. It is a loss of territory, and what makes it all the more frightening is knowing that it is forbidden to mention the fact--and what it means that we are not allowed to mention the fact.

    The implictions are so enormous that people simply shut down. There is a lot of cognitive dissonance on this issue, which explains the ferocity of some of the arguments I have had with liberal friends.

    ISIS was not an existential threat because we were only talking about a few hundred people

    Cortés conquered Mexico with 600 men.

    My neighbor had a huge tree in his yard which appeared to be perfectly healthy until one windy day the tree snapped and fell on his car, crushing it like a soda can. Luckily no one was hurt. After the tree fell you could see that even though the outside of the tree had seemed fine, no one had noticed until that windy day that termites had eaten the entire core of the tree from within, so it was just the shell of a tree, entirely hollow inside and so it was so weakened that a gust of wind was able to snap it like a toothpick.

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  24. @Anon
    "(We even dared to hope for a hip art gallery or a trendy bar.)"

    What western culture and values have come down to.

    Not history, heritage, identity, race, and memory.

    Instead, some 'hip' gallery and 'trendy' bar.

    How vapid.

    "Rather, with roughly 80 percent of the population of Moroccan origin, it was tragically conformist and homogenous. There may be a vibrant alternative culture in Casablanca and Marrakech, but certainly not in Molenbeek."

    Tragically conformist and homogeneous? Tragically?

    Wasn't the Belgian city better when it had been 'tragically' homogeneous with whites?

    The problem isn't conformism or homogeneity per se.

    The issue is homogeneous with whom. When a city is homogeneously white,
    it's wonderful.

    When it is homogeneously Moroccan, it sucks in both Morocco and in Europe.

    And would the city have been any better if it had 30 different groups from all over Africa?
    Libya is now teeming with all sorts of blacks, and it's 'vibrant' alright.
    Now, that is TRAGICALLY diverse and combustive.

    Wasn’t the Belgian city better when it had been ‘tragically’ homogeneous with whites?

    Yep, and I’d bet that it was replete with hip galleries and trendy bars.

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  25. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill P
    My wife used to be a reporter for AFP, and she wandered through Molenbeek twice when on her way to report on some EU stuff. She recognized the streets from recent news reports, and told me she'd never felt such a sense of alienation as she did during those brief walks along the canal anywhere else on earth, and she's a native European. She even mentioned the eerie silence of the morning the guy brings up in the above article. Also the stares from strangers, who were probably wondering what on earth a white woman was doing walking through the neighborhood.

    After reading this post I did a little stroll of the area with Google Streetview.

    My initial impression was that the area looked reasonably nice. Somewhat rough around the edges – but more in the realm of blue-collar than ‘ghetto’. There are some attractive residential buildings there, that wouldn’t be out of place in Manhattan.

    It doesn’t really look like a place of desperation to my eye, but I guess It’s hard to get the feel without being there I suppose.

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  26. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Actually, I think that it is great that this is happening in Brussels.
    I am delighted.

    As you all know, Brussels is the HQ of the EU – in fact the EU is often simply abbreviated to ‘Brussels’. Now, it is the EU that is pushing the damned hardest to turn Europe into a black and brown continent – just look at the way they castigated Hungary recently.
    I have the forlorn hope that when the EU commissars have ‘their noses rubbed in diversity’ daily, to coin a phrase, they might actually have some common sense knocked into their thick skulls.

    But, I won’t hold my breath. A similar situation in DC has done nothing to change the American political class.

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  27. @Perspective
    Caliphate communities seem much more difficult to gentrify than say an older, mostly black neighbourhood like Harlem, if this case study is anything to go by. Though, in the London borough of Tower Hamlets (sometimes nicked named the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets) there has been some success with gentrification, especially in the new Canary Wharf district. Some residents of Tower Hamlets have been pushed further east to the boroughs of Newham and Barking and Dagenham.

    It’s also nicknamed ‘Tower Minarets’.

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  28. Morocco was never a Belgian colony.

    What the Hell are Moroccans doing in Belgium anyway?

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  29. @Jack D

    Nowhere was there a bar ....where white, black and brown people would mingle.
     
    Since Muslims don't drink alcohol, why would they hang out in bars? Did he also imagine that he would share some pork chops with his imaginary new Muslim friends? This guy obviously did not think thru the implications of living with people from another culture/religion.

    Moroccans in Morocco do go to bars. There are some quite decent bars in Casablanca and alcohol is widely available. One question is why Moroccans in Europe tend to become so much more intolerant and fanatical than their counterparts back home. One answer seems to be Saudi money spreading Wahabism among unemployed sexually frustrated young men.

    Saudi Arabia delenda est.

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    Muslims can go into bars in tourist-heavy areas, but it's not usual for them to be served alcohol there.
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  30. he doesn´t get it. He only sees the negative aspects of this culture. But this culture also generates a much more conservative partner market, more stable marriages, more births etc. etc. That is the strength of this culture, and this strength is the problem. Employment means nothing else that those people have achieved the classical barbaric dream of letting the civilized infidels work for them.

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    No, Erik. You can make that argument in Morocco maybe, or Turkey. But in Belgium the culture Voetn describes is not generating anything. It is simply deracinated and parasitic. Most of the men in this neighborhood have no self-respect, are not in stable marriages (hence their bitterness) and are not following the traditional conservative precepts of Moroccan culture. Instead they are trying to fill the gap with 21st century Wahabi Islam and violence. Even if Europe becomes entirely Muslim the North Africans will still be the losers living in slums while a mostly European and Levant descended Muslim elite lives the high life Houllebecq has ironically promised us.
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  31. @Peter Akuleyev
    Moroccans in Morocco do go to bars. There are some quite decent bars in Casablanca and alcohol is widely available. One question is why Moroccans in Europe tend to become so much more intolerant and fanatical than their counterparts back home. One answer seems to be Saudi money spreading Wahabism among unemployed sexually frustrated young men.

    Saudi Arabia delenda est.

    Muslims can go into bars in tourist-heavy areas, but it’s not usual for them to be served alcohol there.

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  32. I have three comments.

    1. Erich Zemmour, author of Le Suicide Français, has suggested that air strikes on Molenbeek are more appropriate than attacks on Syria.

    2. If terrorists wanted to do anything useful and constructive, I note that many of the institutions of the European Union have their headquarters in Brussels.

    3. Perhaps I have “coup d’etat on the brain,” but wouldn’t the declaration of one of these “lock downs,” be a perfect cover for a coup? Everyone off the streets, national leaders sequestered “for their own protection,” then a quick trip to the airport where the entire national governmental leadership is put on a plane to Mauritius, or the Seychelles, followed by declaration of martial law.

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  33. @Erik Sieven
    he doesn´t get it. He only sees the negative aspects of this culture. But this culture also generates a much more conservative partner market, more stable marriages, more births etc. etc. That is the strength of this culture, and this strength is the problem. Employment means nothing else that those people have achieved the classical barbaric dream of letting the civilized infidels work for them.

    No, Erik. You can make that argument in Morocco maybe, or Turkey. But in Belgium the culture Voetn describes is not generating anything. It is simply deracinated and parasitic. Most of the men in this neighborhood have no self-respect, are not in stable marriages (hence their bitterness) and are not following the traditional conservative precepts of Moroccan culture. Instead they are trying to fill the gap with 21st century Wahabi Islam and violence. Even if Europe becomes entirely Muslim the North Africans will still be the losers living in slums while a mostly European and Levant descended Muslim elite lives the high life Houllebecq has ironically promised us.

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  34. @Big Bill
    They are "frustrated" because they cannot pork Muslim girls.

    If they DO pork Muslim girls they are executed by the girl's family.

    Actually no. The girl’s family will execute HER.

    When you add their own quest to take anything that moves to that understanding then you understand why they are so determined to keep their own women wrapped in headscarfs and behind closed doors.

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  35. @Anon
    "(We even dared to hope for a hip art gallery or a trendy bar.)"

    What western culture and values have come down to.

    Not history, heritage, identity, race, and memory.

    Instead, some 'hip' gallery and 'trendy' bar.

    How vapid.

    "Rather, with roughly 80 percent of the population of Moroccan origin, it was tragically conformist and homogenous. There may be a vibrant alternative culture in Casablanca and Marrakech, but certainly not in Molenbeek."

    Tragically conformist and homogeneous? Tragically?

    Wasn't the Belgian city better when it had been 'tragically' homogeneous with whites?

    The problem isn't conformism or homogeneity per se.

    The issue is homogeneous with whom. When a city is homogeneously white,
    it's wonderful.

    When it is homogeneously Moroccan, it sucks in both Morocco and in Europe.

    And would the city have been any better if it had 30 different groups from all over Africa?
    Libya is now teeming with all sorts of blacks, and it's 'vibrant' alright.
    Now, that is TRAGICALLY diverse and combustive.

    ”When a city is homogeneously white,
    it’s wonderful.”

    Less when you have Tzars, Sun King or ”british’ capitalistics governing the city.

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  36. Is Islam where Blacklivesmatter and campus anti-speech radicals get their script?

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  37. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Pointless waiting for any elite on the face of the earth to “come to their senses” …..

    Historical proof is clear that an elite – as a group – does not change course from a destructive path. Instead they ride the sucker all the way down the tubes and they – as a group – either are destroyed or otherwise disappear.

    Stop waiting for your nation’s elite as a group to “wake up” or “repent” …… ! Stop projecting your own decency onto them. In their minds they have the moral high ground.

    Obama is the Drone King, murderer. He has impoverished American blacks. He funds and organizes vicious ISIS to terrorize entire countries. His supporters know this (at least subconsciously) and still claim the moral high ground!

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  38. Several years ago I came across a Polynesian guy’s wallet, and went to his duplex in one of our city’s more “vibrant” neighborhoods to return it to him. When I knocked on his door he opened it with a “what the fuck are you doing in our part of town, haole?” look on him. It was a reaction that seemed not simply motivated by unfriendliness, but territorialism, too. I gave him his wallet. He grunted a vague sort of thank you, and closed the door.

    I would have said “my mistake, wrong door,” left, pocketed the cash, sold or trashed his ID and credit cards, and had a good laugh. Well, back in my more charitable youth. Nowadays I wouldn’t have bothered trying to return a non-white’s wallet in the first place.

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  39. “Nowhere was there a bar or café…..”

    “Openly gay people were routinely intimidated, and also packed up their bags.”

    The secret is out of the bag….keep white gays and gay bars from moving to a poor minority neighborhood and gentrification will fail. White gays are the vanguard for gentrification.

    I wonder if the minority folks in Bedford Stuyvesant and Harlem are aware of this-probably too late anyway.

    I just don’t get Europe.

    Here in NYC, the “Brown” neighborhoods with significant Muslim populations are Jackson Heights and Astoria ( at least in Queens), and these neighborhoods are popular with gays-especially jackson heights whose city council representative is gay. From what I hear, there are gay bars galore in Jackson Heights. Astoria is very popular with hipsters who can’t afford Brooklyn, and they all love their Moroccan restaurants and hookah bars.

    I guest it helps that none of the aforementioned neighborhoods are dominated by one ethnic or religious group as these neighborhoods are diverse in a real sense to include Hispanics, Filipinos and Hindus.

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    "I just don’t get Europe.

    Here in NYC, the “Brown” neighborhoods with significant Muslim populations are Jackson Heights and Astoria ( at least in Queens), and these neighborhoods are popular with gays-especially jackson heights whose city council representative is gay. From what I hear, there are gay bars galore in Jackson Heights. Astoria is very popular with hipsters who can’t afford Brooklyn, and they all love their Moroccan restaurants and hookah bars. "

    What's the percentage of Arabs in Jackson Heights and Astoria. Areas like Molenbeek are majority Muslim and it shows.

    Don't confuse a couple of restaurants with who actually lives in a neighbourhood.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Here in NYC, the “Brown” neighborhoods with significant Muslim populations are Jackson Heights and Astoria…
     
    Astoria is where Samuel P Huntington grew up.
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  40. “It was not out of fear.”
    - Despite the daily humiliation, he still will not admit that “not all cultures are equal”. Pathetic.

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  41. This is what a realistic assessment of groups boils down to: real world contact. I have experienced this myself. I took two years off work between selling one business and starting another. I played golf most days on a very pretty private golf course. At the end of the two years my attitudes had moved towards “every group is nice”. I had become socially liberal on race.

    All it took was two weeks back at work to redevelop my current realistic assessment of group differences.

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  42. I remember speaking to an actual Moroccan-from-Morroco about a related issue and he mentioned that back home most of these extremists would be in prison. The government there doesn’t tolerate this crap.

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  43. @Merema
    "Nowhere was there a bar or café....."

    "Openly gay people were routinely intimidated, and also packed up their bags."

    The secret is out of the bag....keep white gays and gay bars from moving to a poor minority neighborhood and gentrification will fail. White gays are the vanguard for gentrification.

    I wonder if the minority folks in Bedford Stuyvesant and Harlem are aware of this-probably too late anyway.

    I just don't get Europe.

    Here in NYC, the "Brown" neighborhoods with significant Muslim populations are Jackson Heights and Astoria ( at least in Queens), and these neighborhoods are popular with gays-especially jackson heights whose city council representative is gay. From what I hear, there are gay bars galore in Jackson Heights. Astoria is very popular with hipsters who can't afford Brooklyn, and they all love their Moroccan restaurants and hookah bars.

    I guest it helps that none of the aforementioned neighborhoods are dominated by one ethnic or religious group as these neighborhoods are diverse in a real sense to include Hispanics, Filipinos and Hindus.

    “I just don’t get Europe.

    Here in NYC, the “Brown” neighborhoods with significant Muslim populations are Jackson Heights and Astoria ( at least in Queens), and these neighborhoods are popular with gays-especially jackson heights whose city council representative is gay. From what I hear, there are gay bars galore in Jackson Heights. Astoria is very popular with hipsters who can’t afford Brooklyn, and they all love their Moroccan restaurants and hookah bars. ”

    What’s the percentage of Arabs in Jackson Heights and Astoria. Areas like Molenbeek are majority Muslim and it shows.

    Don’t confuse a couple of restaurants with who actually lives in a neighbourhood.

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  44. @TangoMan
    The issue is homogeneous with whom. When a city is homogeneously white,
    it’s wonderful.


    Plunk this guy down in the whiteopia of Portland and he'd be almost 100% happy but then the lack of diversity would start to bother him and he'd launch himself on a quest to improve Portland.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fonSqHNoWkQ

    You can't fix stupid.

    Haha.

    Do you see this guy is making a parody of fuzzy-headed liberals? The image he presents is too stupid for words, but he’s making fun of diversity liberals.

    If nothing else, the giveaway is the bookcase background. The video is supposed to be a sequence over 3 years, but the book arrangement on the bookcase is exactly the same for each year in sequence. There’s no way that would happen over 3 actual years.

    The guy is parodying the tendency of liberals to complain that when the situations they create go into the garbage, they blame the fact that their solution simply wasn’t applied to a sufficient degree. He also parodies the total lack of any learning through experience by leftists.

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  45. The most incompatible people on earth with ”islam” are leftist liberals. Even christians, ”muslims” still respect more than WEIRDOS.

    Why femmenists and LGBT organizations fight for more immigration***

    Because they tend

    - to have a female mindset (non-strategic one, STRATEGICALLY STUPID),

    - have jewish elites with the same long term plan, ;)

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  46. @Merema
    "Nowhere was there a bar or café....."

    "Openly gay people were routinely intimidated, and also packed up their bags."

    The secret is out of the bag....keep white gays and gay bars from moving to a poor minority neighborhood and gentrification will fail. White gays are the vanguard for gentrification.

    I wonder if the minority folks in Bedford Stuyvesant and Harlem are aware of this-probably too late anyway.

    I just don't get Europe.

    Here in NYC, the "Brown" neighborhoods with significant Muslim populations are Jackson Heights and Astoria ( at least in Queens), and these neighborhoods are popular with gays-especially jackson heights whose city council representative is gay. From what I hear, there are gay bars galore in Jackson Heights. Astoria is very popular with hipsters who can't afford Brooklyn, and they all love their Moroccan restaurants and hookah bars.

    I guest it helps that none of the aforementioned neighborhoods are dominated by one ethnic or religious group as these neighborhoods are diverse in a real sense to include Hispanics, Filipinos and Hindus.

    Here in NYC, the “Brown” neighborhoods with significant Muslim populations are Jackson Heights and Astoria…

    Astoria is where Samuel P Huntington grew up.

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  47. “roughly 80 percent of the population of Moroccan origin”

    Yeah, it’s crazy to think you could ‘gentrify’ a homogenous neighbourhood like that. The places that can be changed have no single dominant minority group, ie they are ‘diverse’.

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    Interesting analysis.

    I'd love to see a Moneyball analysis of gentrification. Why not an app on your smartphone that's tied into GPS for couples driving around on Sundays?

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  48. @Simon in London
    "roughly 80 percent of the population of Moroccan origin"

    Yeah, it's crazy to think you could 'gentrify' a homogenous neighbourhood like that. The places that can be changed have no single dominant minority group, ie they are 'diverse'.

    Interesting analysis.

    I’d love to see a Moneyball analysis of gentrification. Why not an app on your smartphone that’s tied into GPS for couples driving around on Sundays?

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    Gentrification is a huge thing here in London of course, enormous amounts of white-middle-class brainpower goes into estimating likely areas to gentrify. I've seen areas like Balham come up & gentrify heavily, others further out like Croydon (15 years ago a decent white working class area) get trashed.

    Some good indicators of potential:

    Good transport links (here= London Underground) into town, where the jobs are.
    Diverse, no dominant ethny (an all-white estate is likely a sink estate, those are much more common in the provinces though).
    A good number of working-class native whites, they are the easiest to displace.
    Good 'Ethnics' are Brazilians and other brown Christians, Poles and other non-Gypsy white east Europeans good too.
    Black churches are quite good, but few groups of black youth on the street.
    Functioning churches of any kind are a positive for gentrification (outside London they've mostly been converted, but London has lots of Christian immigrants & even the natives seem more religious than elsewhere - not just the Irish Catholics).
    Warning sign if the churches are all now mosques.
    Gang activity should be limited - if there's *no* gang activity the area has already gentrified. Good gangs are brown-belt, eg Tamil is good, they only kill each other.
    Muslim gangs are not nearly as bad as (non-Muslim) black gangs - they may seduce & molest the teenage daughters of the white working class, but they very rarely attack strangers on the street. HOWEVER this may be changing as our established Pakistani gangs are now joined by Arabs, who are much more dangerous to lone women, boys etc. The Pakistani gangs fight each other and deal drugs, but pretty well never mug strangers on the street. Black gangsters do it all the time. Areas with heavy black gang presence do have brave white settlers, but their behaviour is highly constrained and no one wants to raise children there.
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  49. @Steve Sailer
    Interesting analysis.

    I'd love to see a Moneyball analysis of gentrification. Why not an app on your smartphone that's tied into GPS for couples driving around on Sundays?

    Gentrification is a huge thing here in London of course, enormous amounts of white-middle-class brainpower goes into estimating likely areas to gentrify. I’ve seen areas like Balham come up & gentrify heavily, others further out like Croydon (15 years ago a decent white working class area) get trashed.

    Some good indicators of potential:

    Good transport links (here= London Underground) into town, where the jobs are.
    Diverse, no dominant ethny (an all-white estate is likely a sink estate, those are much more common in the provinces though).
    A good number of working-class native whites, they are the easiest to displace.
    Good ‘Ethnics’ are Brazilians and other brown Christians, Poles and other non-Gypsy white east Europeans good too.
    Black churches are quite good, but few groups of black youth on the street.
    Functioning churches of any kind are a positive for gentrification (outside London they’ve mostly been converted, but London has lots of Christian immigrants & even the natives seem more religious than elsewhere – not just the Irish Catholics).
    Warning sign if the churches are all now mosques.
    Gang activity should be limited – if there’s *no* gang activity the area has already gentrified. Good gangs are brown-belt, eg Tamil is good, they only kill each other.
    Muslim gangs are not nearly as bad as (non-Muslim) black gangs – they may seduce & molest the teenage daughters of the white working class, but they very rarely attack strangers on the street. HOWEVER this may be changing as our established Pakistani gangs are now joined by Arabs, who are much more dangerous to lone women, boys etc. The Pakistani gangs fight each other and deal drugs, but pretty well never mug strangers on the street. Black gangsters do it all the time. Areas with heavy black gang presence do have brave white settlers, but their behaviour is highly constrained and no one wants to raise children there.

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  50. @Perspective
    Caliphate communities seem much more difficult to gentrify than say an older, mostly black neighbourhood like Harlem, if this case study is anything to go by. Though, in the London borough of Tower Hamlets (sometimes nicked named the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets) there has been some success with gentrification, especially in the new Canary Wharf district. Some residents of Tower Hamlets have been pushed further east to the boroughs of Newham and Barking and Dagenham.

    Tower Hamlets has never been 80% Muslim, but yes there has been a conscious effort there to create an ‘Islamic State’. Most Muslims don’t live in such areas. I’ve seen the Muslim tide rise and recede in my old neighbourhood as it gentrified, so Muslim presence per se is not irreversible. I guess numbers are key, much above about 40% may be irreversible, certainly 60%.

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  51. anon • Disclaimer says:

    I heard stories of fanatics at the Comte des Flandres metro station who pressured women to wear the veil

    One of the many things the media lie about is the constant harassment of women not wearing veils in muslim areas. Big gangs of men follow them spitting on them and saying they should be raped etc.

    .

    @Simon London

    Muslim gangs are not nearly as bad as (non-Muslim) black gangs – they may seduce & molest the teenage daughters of the white working class…

    The word you’re looking for is rape and you should know as the people most responsible for covering it up – even more than the media – are the **** teachers.

    .

    but they very rarely attack strangers on the street.

    You know nothing.

    Blacks start trouble even when they’re a small minority of young males. Pakistanis do it when they’re a significant majority of young males but when they hit that point they do it all the time to drive non-muslims out of the area.

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    "Blacks start trouble even when they’re a small minority of young males. Pakistanis do it when they’re a significant majority of young males but when they hit that point they do it all the time to drive non-muslims out of the area."

    That may well be the case. Outside of Tower Hamlets they don't generally have those sorts of numbers in London. My experience is that 12% black is a lot more dangerous than 25% Muslim.
    , @Simon in London
    "The word you’re looking for is rape and you should know as the people most responsible for covering it up – even more than the media – are the **** teachers."

    I haven't covered up the rape of any of my students or anyone else I know, no. Since they're adults they're hardly the main target demographic anyway.
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  52. @anon

    I heard stories of fanatics at the Comte des Flandres metro station who pressured women to wear the veil
     
    One of the many things the media lie about is the constant harassment of women not wearing veils in muslim areas. Big gangs of men follow them spitting on them and saying they should be raped etc.

    .

    @Simon London

    Muslim gangs are not nearly as bad as (non-Muslim) black gangs – they may seduce & molest the teenage daughters of the white working class...
     
    The word you're looking for is rape and you should know as the people most responsible for covering it up - even more than the media - are the **** teachers.

    .

    but they very rarely attack strangers on the street.
     
    You know nothing.

    Blacks start trouble even when they're a small minority of young males. Pakistanis do it when they're a significant majority of young males but when they hit that point they do it all the time to drive non-muslims out of the area.

    “Blacks start trouble even when they’re a small minority of young males. Pakistanis do it when they’re a significant majority of young males but when they hit that point they do it all the time to drive non-muslims out of the area.”

    That may well be the case. Outside of Tower Hamlets they don’t generally have those sorts of numbers in London. My experience is that 12% black is a lot more dangerous than 25% Muslim.

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  53. @anon

    I heard stories of fanatics at the Comte des Flandres metro station who pressured women to wear the veil
     
    One of the many things the media lie about is the constant harassment of women not wearing veils in muslim areas. Big gangs of men follow them spitting on them and saying they should be raped etc.

    .

    @Simon London

    Muslim gangs are not nearly as bad as (non-Muslim) black gangs – they may seduce & molest the teenage daughters of the white working class...
     
    The word you're looking for is rape and you should know as the people most responsible for covering it up - even more than the media - are the **** teachers.

    .

    but they very rarely attack strangers on the street.
     
    You know nothing.

    Blacks start trouble even when they're a small minority of young males. Pakistanis do it when they're a significant majority of young males but when they hit that point they do it all the time to drive non-muslims out of the area.

    “The word you’re looking for is rape and you should know as the people most responsible for covering it up – even more than the media – are the **** teachers.”

    I haven’t covered up the rape of any of my students or anyone else I know, no. Since they’re adults they’re hardly the main target demographic anyway.

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