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Israelis, empowered by their pro-Israeli political class, have been thriving in recent years. Americans, on the other hand, distracted by their pro-Israeli political class, not so much …

For many years, I’ve been arguing that Americans should pay Israelis the compliment of studying what works for them and trying it for ourselves here in America. In contrast, the GOP establishment has instead attempted to outsource Americans’ natural feelings of patriotism to the small, far-off country of Israel, while elites practice profitable globalism at home.

From the Israeli broadsheet Haaretz:

Trump’s Triumphs Demolish Netanyahu’s Fortress GOP Strategy
The N.Y. tycoon is decimating the three legs of blanket Republican support for Israel: Evangelicals, Jews and interventionist hawks.

Chemi Shalev Mar 03, 2016 11:59 PM

In their Super Tuesday speeches, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio tried to use an Israel hammer to bash Donald Trump. Cruz sneeringly lambasted him for saying he would remain “neutral” while Rubio trounced Trump for trying to stay “impartial”, as his audience booed accordingly. And Trump? Trump was racking up victories, amassing delegates and laughing all the way to the top of the Republican presidential field.

In this way, the New York billionaire is decimating the conventional wisdom, one of many, that in 2016, total and unconditional support for Israel is a prerequisite for any aspiring GOP candidate wishing to run for president; that such a pledge of allegiance to Israel, in general, and to Benjamin Netanyahu, in particular, is a threshold requirement for gaining the support of Evangelicals, who set the tone during primary season; …

But exactly a year after Netanyahu took this logic to its extreme and stood on the podium of Congress as Leader of the Republican opposition to President Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran, the conception is falling apart. The notion that the Republican Party is a monolithic bastion of support that will withstand the test of time is evaporating. … Faced with the Trump phenomenon, Netanyahu’s Fortress GOP strategy is collapsing like a house of cards.

And it doesn’t really make that much difference whether Trump is a “phony” who is pulling the wool over the GOP’s innocent eyes, as former presidential contender Mitt Romney asserted in his astonishingly harsh speech on Thursday, or whether Trump has simply exposed the dark subterranean streams of jingoism and prejudice and resentment of Jews that were there all along.

Huh?

If Trump is the Republican candidate, never mind if he’s elected president, Israel’s place in American politics and possibly around the world will be put in question. But if Romney’s scary portrayal of Trump is even half true, that should be the least of our worries.

In the outgoing dogmatic GOP, Trump’s equivocations would have earned him a place in the all-time rogues gallery of Enemies of the Jewish People, somewhere between Obama and Father Coughlin. Today, Evangelicals shrug them off and continue to vote for Trump, as they did this week in Alabama, Georgia, Massachusetts, Tennessee, Vermont and Virginia.

Every time Cruz and Rubio try to hit Trump over the head with an Israel club and nothing happens, it is Israel’s weakness that is exposed. Every time Trump wins a party primary without challenge from his supporters, another nail is driven into the coffin of the unshakeable alliance between Israel and America’s deep right.

And it’s not as if Trump is really anti-Israel; hardly. Like in most other complex policy issues on which he has spoken, Trump is mainly incoherent, improvising as he goes along, shooting from the lip, saying one thing one day and the opposite the next. He is “totally a friend” of Israel, Obama is “the most horrible president ever” for Israel, and the Iran deal is a joke. But Trump refuses to acknowledge United Jerusalem, wants to remain “neutral” so that he can broker a peace deal with the Palestinians, which is a challenge worthy of a master dealmaker like him. If he fails, he’s already made clear, Israel will be to blame.

Trump not only diverts the Republican leadership from uniform automatic support for Netanyahu, he is destroying the internal coalition that was the lynchpin of the party’s strong pro-Israel stance. Evangelical support for Trump has already sparked an internal rupture, which has some experts declaring the death of America’s Religious Right. …

If Trump becomes their candidate, the GOP will lose its most hawkish, most neoconservative and most pro-Israel secular elements as well. They [neocons] are repelled not only by his indecipherable positions on Israel but also by his harsh criticism of George Bush and the Iraq War, his undisguised adulation of dictators for Vladimir Putin to Bashar Assad, his all round belligerence and his neo-isolationist vision of making America great again within its hermetically sealed walls.

“His all round belligerence and his neo-isolationist vision” — Huh?

The third leg of the GOP’s pro-Israel array that Trump is eviscerating are the Jews. Although Sheldon Adelson’s ongoing silence has caused some people to suspect he will end up supporting Trump, other big time Jewish donors, including hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, have placed their money on his currently losing rivals. And the Republican hope that 2016 will finally see the long awaited migration of Jews disappointed by Obama to the GOP is dashed once again. Trump hardly stands a chance of garnering 30% of the Jewish vote, as Romney did in 2012, never mind the 40% that Rubio might reasonably be expected to receive. He’s more likely to revert the GOP’s Jewish vote in the direction of the 11% that George Bush Sr. got in 1992, or the 10% that Barry Goldwater received in 1964. …

The Jews will run away from Trump because he scares them. Because his demagoguery is ominous, his willingness to slash and burn anyone standing in his way is disturbing, his tendency to incite his supporters against other ethnic groups from rapist Mexicans to terrorist Muslims, is a source of deep anxiety. Beneath the great wave of popular support for Trump one can make out with increasing clarity the dark undercurrents of rage and resentment and xenophobia that is often seen morphing into White supremacism and abhorrence of African Americans and then, on the outskirts, bad old hatred of the Jews. The allusions to Germany in the 1930’s are absurd, no doubt, but nonetheless surfacing with ever-increasing frequency.

It’s always 1933.

 

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  1. Steve, this is just Ha’aretz being Ha’aretz and prosecuting their jihad against B. Netanyahu. The Israeli joe sixpack is very comfortable with Trump and views his rise with equanimity. The agony aunts at Ha’aretz are beholden to the NYT for their view of Trump as 1933 all over again.

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  2. The guy has a Jewish son-in-law, for christsakes. Is that enough? No…no…nothing short of groveling at the feet of Isreal will suffice.

    One of the few things I liked about Obama was his tendency to keep Israel at arms length–relative to the neocons, anyway.

    At some point, all this racist/Hitler accusing will wear thin. When a real ill-intentioned demagogue rises, the left may find out they’ve called “wolf” one too many times.

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  3. “His all round belligerence and his neo-isolationist vision” — Huh?

    This paradox comes up over and over. For example, in the the comments of this post of mine, Time to Consider Trump Insurance, more than one commenter predicted Trump would start a war. Never mind that, with Rand Paul out of the race, he’s now the least bellicose GOP candidate.

    It’s come up a bunch on Twitter too. It really is bizarre.

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  4. Another wishful thinking op-ed from the Haaretz. They publish two types of articles:

    1) How Bibi has got Israel by the balls and everything is terrible.

    2) How Bibi is a moron and his world is about to collapse.

    This isn’t the first time they’ve published a “Trump is Netanyahu’s nightmare” piece. Weirdly, this places Haaretz’s leftists in a conflicted position, as they find themselves admitting that Trump should actually be their preferred candidate. But they’re still as revolted by him as liberals everywhere else in the West.

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  5. This is making me so happy. I wish I could vote for Trump. At least, moving to Cyprus allows me to vote for secession in the Brexit referendum. Oh the irony!

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  6. P.S. Steve, what you should really be paying attention to is Israel Hayom’s attitude towards Trump. (That’s Sheldon Adelson’s paper in Israel, for those who didn’t know)

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  7. What is it?

    My vague impression is that Sheldon Adelson prefers Rubio and his wife prefers Cruz, but Sheldon could live with Trump, his fellow casino mogul. Perhaps Trump seems like the kind of guy you could have a productive chat with about how online gambling is a bane compared to good old tangible casinos that employ real construction workers and real croupiers? (I’d probably side with Adelson on this: gambling should be something you have to go somewhere to do in person, not just a click away on your smartphone.)

    My vague sense is that Adelson is less hyperactive this election cycle. The wisdom of age?

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  8. Donald Trump’s core support is overwhelmingly white, lower middle-class men with a high school education. He draws most of the rest of his support from white middle-class men and women. The increasingly hysterical denunciations of Donald Trump demonstrate the hatred and contempt for, and yet palpable fear of, that demographic group among American elites.

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  9. Quite, it just shows how extreme Zionism is that they find Trump’s, with all his links to Israel and the Jewish community, modest proposal to place American interests first in the Middle East so unacceptable.

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  10. Sailer why do you block all my comments on Jews no matter how epithet-free or non-violent the rhetoric?

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  11. What about American POTUS candidates stating how much they love the USA and what they want to do for Americans?

    Or is that too radical?

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  12. I would neutral/respectful, and trending towards outright positive. This may not be so apparent from looking at the newspaper’s online English edition (IH’s website is kind of bad in general, actually). But today’s print edition published a very positive op-ed on Trump.

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  13. his undisguised adulation of dictators for Vladimir Putin to Bashar Assad

    I think “adulation” might be a bit much.

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  14. I am feeling more and more estranged from my co ethnics lately. Israel should be solidly behind Putin and Assad, and Jews here should be supporting Trump. Nothing is worse for us, or whites generally, than mass Muslim migration to the US and Europe.

    I am predicting right now that Trump will quell the neocon attacks by going over the top with pro israel statements. the best nationalist right leader in Europe is Geert Wilders and he does this. Promising to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem woud be a good start. There is no downside really, it is not like Trump is going to lose Muslim support this way. I do hope he also keeps attacking Bush and the Iraq War.

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  15. That is Obama’s only saving grace in my mind as well.

    Maybe Trump can put a holocaust museum in Trump Tower.

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  16. Is this really the view from Israel? What do other Israeli newspapers say?

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  17. “Israeli joe sixpack”

    Is that a thing?

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  18. kaganovitch:

    What about American Jews like William Kristol and Max Boot? I’m curious to hear your take, if you’d care to share it. Their rhetoric has been somewhat extreme.

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  19. I agree. Ha’aretz is the New York Times of Israel.

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  20. It’s dumb, but not so bizarre. People are looking at Trump’s demeanor and the way he interacts with the other candidates in debates. Of course, yelling people down and waving your hands a lot does not mean you’re going to pull the trigger on North Korea. Even without reasoning, people’s experience with Obama should tell them that talking like a wall-flower academic doesn’t mean you’re real peaceful, but people haven’t learned that lesson, I guess.

    his tendency to incite his supporters against other ethnic groups from rapist Mexicans to terrorist Muslims

    Did y’all know that “rapist Mexican” and “terrorist Muslim” are both ethnic groups?

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  21. Trotskyites are not really American, they have multiple passports and no loyalties.

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  22. Everyone seems to see Trump as a European-style rightist, but I don’t really see it. You simply don’t have to be of the right to be a nationalist. Trump is to the right of the U.S. establishment (though not the electorate) on one issue for sure, immigration. The rest could be right, left, or center. I don’t know. Trump isn’t an ideological figure, that’s all.

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  23. Who votes for Donald Trump? Read this for an alternative view. They have interviews with a lot of examples.

    The Hispanic attorney (29, Florida)
    ‘He has demonstrated that he is, at heart, a caring person’
    On paper, I probably look like a guaranteed Cruz or Rubio vote. I’m a millennial woman, my parents immigrated from Castro’s Cuba, I work as a trial attorney in Miami and I’m a born-again Christian. But I’m voting for Donald Trump, and I’ve convinced all my friends and family to do so as well.

    The anti-PC college professor (50, California)
    ‘I’m angry at forced diversity’
    I’m a liberal-left college professor in the social sciences. I’m going to vote for Trump but I won’t tell hardly anyone.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/03/secret-donald-trump-voters-speak-out

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  24. “Prime Minister Netanyahu rejects Donald Trump’s recent remarks about Muslims,”

    Trump ‘postpones’ Israel trip after Netanyahu criticism

    Trump sounds pretty reasonable to downgrade to neutral. Netanyahu has a permanent ban on Muslim immigration and officially makes Islam a second-class religion in Israel. I don’t see any logical ground for criticizing Trump’s temporary Muslim immigration ban proposal.

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  25. Putin is actually very popular in Israel, not only among the large Russian emigre community but among average Israelis. He is by a wide margin the most popular Foreign leader in Israel. It is only the leftist elites in Israel that despise him.

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  26. “His all round belligerence and his neo-isolationist vision” — Huh?

    Trump’s contagious incoherence is affecting the author?

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  27. If people are brought up with a version of their history which cuts out any bad stuff their group did and just listed the bad stuff done to them by others then I think culturally induced paranoia is the likely result – as Trump has been proving quite spectacularly.

    Also if no logical explanation for the bad stuff is ever looked for then some useful insights might be missed.

    (Obviously some of it will be minority prejudice / bigotry etc but all?)

    For example, if wages are driven down to subsistence levels the economy will collapse and then stagnate because a prosperous economy requires disposable income. (I’d say innovation is mostly driven by disposable income also.) So if people had a habit of trying to drive wage levels to subsistence (whether thru immigration or slavery) and it always led to collapse and backlash they might decide it would be better to stop doing it.

    Similarly unrestricted money-lending has the same effect as even if people nominally have disposable income if an ever increasing percentage of it goes on loan repayments for previous consumption then it’s the same as having none.

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  28. Calling Haaretz ‘The View from Israel’ is like calling NYT the view from the US. (Le Monde France/UK The Guardian) Its even partially owned by a non-Israeli company:

    http://www.dumont.eu/medien-services.html

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  29. against other ethnic groups from rapist Mexicans to terrorist Muslims, is a source of deep anxiety.

    This guy likes these groups? What the…?

    What would rapist Mexicans and terrorist Muslims do without Chemi Shalevs to stand up for them?

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  30. I think they dread the diminution of their stature and influence in a Trump administration; A sort of Public Choice theory of neo-con public intellectuals if you will. Ironically , they probably wouldn’t have been marginalized to much extent had they not pursued their scorched earth campaign in the first place. Additionally I suspect (more in the case of Kristol than Boot) that they find Trump vulgar, and falling far short of what they perceive as the standard of presidential dignity. To be honest so do I, but A) I think the ship of presidential dignity sailed with the election of Bill Clinton a quarter of a century ago. and B) All other considerations must take a back seat to the immigration issue which is in the words of Ecclesiastes 1-15 “מעוות לא יוכל לתקן”

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  31. You don’t understand the essence of Jewish manipulation and power.

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  32. …makes Islam a second-class religion in Israel.

    I prefer the fourth- or fifth-class status Teddy Roosevelt accorded it. Unofficially, of course.

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  33. It appears Israel under Likud/GOP leadership is on a collision course for South African style realignment.

    It’s as if Jewish elites care as little for their ordinary, low level people as white gentile elites do for ordinary, low level whites in the US.

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  34. This Ha’aretz editorialist sounds like he’s channeling George Will, right down to the incoherence, illogic, and even unintended self-contradiction.

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  35. He’s more likely to revert the GOP’s Jewish vote in the direction of the 11% that George Bush Sr. got in 1992, or the 10% that Barry Goldwater received in 1964. …

    Goldwater had a Jewish father who converted to the religion of his wife. So Goldwater was at least half Jewish by ethnicity even though he was a Christian.

    Question: Which contributed more to Goldwater’s low take among Jewish voters, his religion or political ideology?

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  36. Huh?

    LOL

    We need Huhtzpah against Chutzpah.

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  37. For Jews, identifying the majority’s interests as their own would be tantamount to abandoning their jewishness.

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  38. >the unshakeable alliance between Israel and America’s deep right

    Boy are they in for a surprise when they finally figure out who Americas new “deep right wing” is, and what we think about them

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  39. Trump is actually relatively popular amongst Israeli Jews – which is a population enamoured with populism. Israel has fewer Ashkenazi leftists than, say, New York City. And, like in the US, these Jews find themselves disproportionately in elite positions (like writing for Ha’aretz – which no one buys). But don’t get things confused, Israel’s demographic power lies in Right-Wing, traditional communities that dominate most towns not named Tel Aviv.

    Trump, to allay Israeli fears, can make a few derogatory comments about Palestinians and will find himself loved by the masses. As an Israeli Right-winger, I find it a bit embarrassing how easily one can get a “Death to Arabs” chant going in any crowd of Rightists. In any case, if Trump can use some of Netanyahu’s (own!) tactics to build support in Israel, then he’ll rise in popularity. If his campaign can say, “57% of Israelis back Trump”, and use Israeli xenophobia and illiberal attitudes against Zionist-establishment types in the US, well, that’s a winning strategy.

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  40. Hmm, a Jew thinks that a presidential candidate should encourage Israel do whatever it wants while America pays the price. That’s novel.

    Under what circumstances and to which candidate would you not offer that advice?

    When does Israel have enough? When has America given enough for Israel? When can our political contests be about our needs, not yours? Can you even imagine any downsides for us Americans to be your tool, or do you believe it only does us good?

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  41. People are looking at Trump’s demeanor and the way he interacts with the other candidates in debates.

    That’s partly because the audiences have been rigged hostile so he comes out swinging – he’s a lot more genial in front of a friendly crowd.

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  42. This could all be shtick.

    Obama has been very good for Jews. Even his Iran Deal was hatched by J-Street Jews.

    But we are told Obama threw Israel under the bus. Zzzzzzzzzzzz.

    And now, Trump is bad for Israel. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    Jews say one thing but feel another.

    I think Jews are mainly afraid of people realizing that Jews/Israel owns the US.
    I mean George W. Bush and McCain were excessively servile to Israel, and this made Jews nervous.
    Better to create the impression that US politicians are NOT controlled by Jews/Israel.

    Now, there may be some sincere anxieties among Israelis… but they surely know Trump isn’t anti-Israel or anti-Jewish.

    Trump’s fortune is built on Jewish ties. So, there is no need for Jews to fear Trump.

    I think what is really worthy worrying about is what Trump may have unleashed in the long term. Will this grass-roots nationalism stop with Trump or go beyond that?

    It’s the ‘beyond’ part that is worrying to Jews.

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  43. http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/?p=439
    [...] Outlook: Eight times during the last century—1920-21, 1929, 1936-39, 1947-48,1987-93, 2000-2005, 2008-14 (Gaza), 2016—did the Palestinian Arabs try to match whatever armed forces they had against those the British Empire/the Jewish Community in/Palestine/Israel. To no avail, since Israel, its Jewish population having grown almost a hundredfold during the same period. With one of the world’s more powerful armed forces, it still continues to “besiege” the Gaza Strip and occupy the West Bank. This is an Ur-clash between two peoples that claim the same land. Even should the present disturbances come an end, a political solution of any kind is not in sight.

    What should be done: Speaking as an Israeli now, given that real peace is out of reach for a long, long time to come, there seem to be two courses. The first would be for my country to complete the wall it has built around the West Bank in such a way as to get rid as of many Palestinians, specifically including most of those who live in East Jerusalem, as possible. That done, it should tell the settlers it is withdrawing and take as many of them as possible along. If, after that, the Palestinians in the West Bank still cause trouble, then Israel should deal with them as it dealt with Gaza in 2014. This has long been my own position; however, unless pressure is applied form outside it is very unlikely to happen.

    The second would be to hope for the collapse of the Hashemite Kingdom and its occupation by Daesh or some similar organization. That would create an opportunity to repeat the events of 1948 and throw the Palestinians of the West Bank across the River Jordan. This is the “solution” a great many Israelis secretly favor. And the longer the present uprising lasts, the larger their number will grow.

    What will it be?

    http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/PalestineFuture.pdf

    As summarised by Kevin MacDonald, Mearsheimer’s argument goes thus:

    The result is that the trends toward an “incipient apartheid state” will become a full-blown apartheid state “over the next decade.”
    “In the long run, however, Israel will not be able to maintain itself as an apartheid state. … It will eventually evolve into a democratic bi-national state whose politics will be dominated by the more numerous Palestinians.”
    An apartheid Israel is non-viable for several reasons: The information freely available on the Internet; continued outrage among the Arabs and Muslims; because it is “antithetical to core Western values”; because it endangers American lives; and because most American Jews will not back it.

    This is not a problem but a conflict, and in the words of Conor Cruise O’Brien, conflicts do not have solutions, they have outcomes. Hillary Clinton and along with neocons and interventionists, wants to freeze the Middle East situation by preventing or suppressing revolution in Israel’s neighbours. But this would condemn the Jewishness of Israel to inevitable ellipse, for the reasons that Mearsheimer has pointed out.

    Trump is not committed to unending war in the Middle East with the objective of keeping the current Arab family dictatorships in power irrespective of the popular will in those countries, the Israel Lobby seem to be; it would lead, sooner or later to certain doom for Israel by freezing the current long-term-untenable situation. For the Jewish state to have a future, Jews will have to leave the West Bank or the Arabs will. The conventional “solution”- minded US establishment of neocons, liberal and interventionists would not stand for the necessary transfers of Arabs; do they not understand what the alternative is?

    So it is up to Jerusalem to decide what it wants. Either an indefinite prolongation of the existing situation, with all its nasty implications for the country’s demographic balance, democracy and its standing in the world; or the erection of a wall and a withdrawal from occupied territory. Practically all of it…

    http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/?p=555

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  44. 1) Who are these evangelicals anyway? I have never met one in my life. Never.

    2) Of course Trump is a Jew hater, what with a Jewish daughter, son in law, and grandchildren, it is only natural, right?

    3) >>his tendency to incite his supporters against other ethnic groups from rapist Mexicans to terrorist Muslims,

    With this statement the writer affirms that, yes, there really is the phenomena of Mexican rapists and terrorist Muslims. Glad we can see eye to eye with liberals on this reality.

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  45. The Republicans have been hoping to pry the Jews away from the Democrats for the last 30+ years; with absolutely no hope of ever making it happen. Jews control, fund, are the mouthpieces, and set the agenda for the Dems. And they don’t have to share the power with anyone else, if they don’t want to.

    What can the Repubs offer? Jews can share power with the Evangelicals that only care about Armageddon; where only the Evangelicals go to heaven (already got their seat assignment to heaven on Jesus 1) and everybody else (jews included) dies and goes to hell for eternity. Jews seem to have ‘issues’ with Evangelicals about this; that jews assuming room temperature is part and parcel of Evangel interest.

    Or share power with white gentile men, the ones that have spent the last 2000 years wailing on the Jews when they got tired of Jews not playing by the rules ( tested by college psychology types as the one type of misbehavior that the vast majority of people won’t/can’t let slide).

    Or the Nationalists that observe what Israel is doing about immigration ( build walls), deport undesirables from Israel instead of giving them same rights as a citizen. Don’t allow a small minority with dual loyalties to control media and by extension the country.

    Yeah, that’s something the Hebrews are having a real difficult time resisting….

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  46. I’m not worried about Trump. The worst kind of western leader, for Israel, is a naïve post-nationalist. Bent on abolishing his own people, such a leader expects Israel to get stupid in the same way. If Trump’s been consistent about anything, it’s that he’s not that kind of fool.

    Obama would have been even worse for Israel than he’s been, if he hadn’t been so busy destroying America.

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  47. In this way, the New York billionaire is decimating the conventional wisdom, one of many, that in 2016, total and unconditional support for Israel is a prerequisite for any aspiring GOP candidate wishing to run for president; that such a pledge of allegiance to Israel, in general, and to Benjamin Netanyahu, in particular, is a threshold requirement for gaining the support of Evangelicals, who set the tone during primary season; …

    It’s never been a requirement for the voters. It’s been a requirement for the donors.

    Faced with the Trump phenomenon, Netanyahu’s Fortress GOP strategy is collapsing like a house of cards.

    And it doesn’t really make that much difference whether Trump is a “phony” who is pulling the wool over the GOP’s innocent eyes, as former presidential contender Mitt Romney asserted in his astonishingly harsh speech on Thursday, or whether Trump has simply exposed the dark subterranean streams of jingoism and prejudice and resentment of Jews that were there all along.

    “Booboo wasn’t very nice to me” – Trump.

    And it doesn’t really make that much difference whether Trump is a “phony” who is pulling the wool over the GOP’s innocent eyes, as former presidential contender Mitt Romney asserted in his astonishingly harsh speech on Thursday, or whether Trump has simply exposed the dark subterranean streams of jingoism and prejudice and resentment of Jews that were there all along.

    Huh?

    This can’t be the first time you’ve seen a Zionist utter a bald-faced lie so bad you find it insulting. This is a lot of Jews’ strange way of telling the truth with lies. What he means is, Trump has exposed Jewish jingoism and prejudice and resentment of non-Jewish whites that was there all along.

    I skipped the rest. If I want to know what Israel wants us to know, I can read the American press.

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  48. For a start, maybe you should use less rude language in addressing our host, ehhh? Considering the balls-out neo- and ur-nazi stuff that does make it up —at least temporarily— onto the comment threads here (not to mention elsewhere across the Unziverse!) I cringe at the thought of your actual content; as “epithet-free and nonviolent” as it may well be.

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  49. This paradox comes up over and over.

    It’s not a paradox. It’s just lies.

    Trump sounds pretty reasonable to downgrade to neutral. Netanyahu has a permanent ban on Muslim immigration and officially makes Islam a second-class religion in Israel. I don’t see any logical ground for criticizing Trump’s temporary Muslim immigration ban proposal.

    “Everything for the Jews, nothing for the rest. It’s perfectly logical.”

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  50. Dear Mr. Kaganovitch:
    Here is an old Odessa joke of approximately 1955.
    *
    Mother and little child walk at the port of Odessa,
    and the boy reads the name of a big ship: “Serghey Esenin”
    (Yesenin in English pronunciation.)
    — Mama, who is Serghey Esenin ?
    — I do not know, my son.
    Old Odessite:
    — Madam, a small boy could be forgiven for not knowing it.
    But at least you could and should explain him,
    that Serghey Esenin is former Lazar Kaganovich.
    *
    The pinch point of the joke is that Serghey Esenin, 1895-1925,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Yesenin

    was and still is one of the most lyrical, tenderly-Russian poet in the whole Russian culture,
    while L. M. Kaganovich (Lazar Moiseevich), 1893-1991,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich

    was a Soviet politician and administrator and one of the main associates of Joseph Stalin.
    *
    Personally I have nothing against the people with last name “Kaganovich”,
    and I wish the best to you and your loved ones.

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  51. I am confused about a lot of things at the moment. The world makes less and less sense.
    1). Yes, why are Jews so keen on mass (Muslim) immigration into Europe. It’s suicide. I had an on-line scrap with an Israeli who said that the fall of Western Europe to Islam would not affect Israel. They had seen the Arabs off in the past and would do so again. In reality, the Mediterranean would be closed and the native European population would not vanish entirely. European scientific know-how would be directed against Israel. German scientists would give them what they needed to flatten Israel. These are GERMANS. They do what they’re told.
    2). Ukraine is even more confusing. Victoria Nuland organizes and coup and places groups like Svoboda in positions of power. These are real Nazis. They’re not Trump or UKIP or the Daughters of the American Revolution. These people are the real thing. If I were a Jew, I would have violent feelings towards such people and wish to strangle them with my own hands. Victoria Nuland is Jewish. I just don’t get it.

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  52. “Comments are moderated by Steve Sailer, at whim. ”

    The “whim” is pronounced the way demonstrated in the video.

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  53. The sniveling of the Zionists is the best endorsement Trump could get.

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  54. This shrill gamma tendency is mirrored in Dan Penor and the other neocons. They know they can’t win on substance, so its rhetoric, weird analogies and insinuations galore.

    I can’t speak for jews, but the shrill, over the top, hysterical conclusions betray a paper that knows Trump isn’t bad news for Jews but bad news for what that 10% of right wing establishment jews wants to do with the Middle East.

    They know how ridiculous this must read to people.

    Like white establishment people, the jewish establishment is even more parasitical of its people. Like a brain leech.

    American jews have disavowed these parasites decades ago by voting for Carter onwards.

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  55. that “Serghey Esenin” is former “Lazar Kaganovich” – after adding the quotation marks I get the joke.

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  56. his undisguised adulation of dictators for Vladimir Putin to Bashar Assad

    I think “adulation” might be a bit much.

    “Adulation” is over the top and “dictator” is untrue when it comes to Putin.

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  57. Yes, why are Jews so keen on mass (Muslim) immigration into Europe.

    Polling is a bit spotty due to low sample size, but it appears that European Jewish voters vote for “mainstream nationalist” parties like Front National at high rates.

    If I were a Jew, I would have violent feelings towards such people and wish to strangle them with my own hands.

    The Iraq War/Anti-Russian group in DC is heavily Jewish to be sure. However, Jewish voters and congressmen strongly opposed the Iraq War, more than any other group except black congressmen.

    They had seen the Arabs off in the past and would do so again. In reality, the Mediterranean would be closed and the native European population would not vanish entirely. European scientific know-how would be directed against Israel. German scientists would give them what they needed to flatten Israel. These are GERMANS. They do what they’re told.

    You are right. This is already happening, with Euro governments giving in to Muslim voter pressure to engage in Israel boycotts. Same thing with California public university campuses, especially the crappy ones with minimal Jewish students or alumni but 7% or so Muslim students (both locals and rich Saudi types).

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  58. Hmm, a Jew thinks that a presidential candidate should encourage Israel do whatever it wants while America pays the price. That’s novel.

    And what price is that exactly? You think people who already hate us will hate us 3% more or something if we move an embassy?

    When does Israel have enough? When has America given enough for Israel? When can our political contests be about our needs, not yours? Can you even imagine any downsides for us Americans to be your tool, or do you believe it only does us good?

    We have an interest in protecting Europe and Israel from Muslim takeover. Every year white Christiandom retreats a little bit more to Islam. Europe and America get a little more Muslim, and the remaining Christians are murdered and expelled from their scattered enclaves in the Middle East, the remnants of the days when white Christian Romans and Greeks ruled all of the middle east/north africa from Casablanca to Kuwait.

    Israel is the only place in the entire world where the tide is moving against Muslims, where they are in a geographic, political, and demographic decline. We need to support them both as allies and as examples.

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  59. Political ideology. He was viewed as too dangerous to have his finger on the nuclear button. There were Republicans for Johnson groups in 1964, (much like the Democrats for Nixon in 1972.)

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  60. The core of Trump’s support is naturally white people, because they consistently make up the core of support for all Republican candidates. But Trump does just as well among Hispanics as do the “Hispanic” candidates, Cruz and Rubio.

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  61. ”Politics” = theatre

    Trump and their friends should win a oscar’s

    Real holistic-aware white nationalists would not want to keep such close ties, so familiar with his implicitly self-declared enemies.

    http://i0.statig.com.br/bancodeimagens/5v/57/di/5v57di65bkz24u45q7r1nwl09.jpg

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  62. “However, Jewish voters and congressmen strongly opposed the Iraq War, more than any other group except black congressmen.”

    Most Catholics, too, including John Paul II, who gave Bush an earful before and during that awful war. The traditional Catholic press and public was aghast at that criminality. A book was compiled at the time by horrified Catholics called “Neo-conned” and it was a devastating critique.

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  63. Consider the source. Whenever some writer at a foreign paper esp. one from the affluent liberal + intelligentsia orientation of Haaretz tries to comprehend the mind of Likely Voter in Chattanooga the results can be hard to read aloud with a straight face, but additionally they’re concern-trolling their own local opposition more than deeply studying & attempting to be right about U.S.A. election dynamics. We already have dumbass American pundits who don’t understand our own politics — just pick any column from the Washington Post — and from where do you think the op-ed churners in Tel Aviv, Paris, Mayfair, etc. take their cues…

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  64. Why aren’t there currently any rapist Mexican illegals or Facebook jihaders on the Supreme Court? Don’t they deserve some representation too?

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  65. This isn’t the first time they’ve published a “Trump is Netanyahu’s nightmare” piece. Weirdly, this places Haaretz’s leftists in a conflicted position, as they find themselves admitting that Trump should actually be their preferred candidate. But they’re still as revolted by him as liberals everywhere else in the West.

    You mean everyone in the West. “Else” would imply Israel itself is in the West.

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  66. ‘No matter how epithet-free or non-violent’?

    Just like you can be concerned with excess financial industry influence without wanting to kill all the bankers, it’s possible to be concerned about excess Jewish influence without planning to send the entire population of Scarsdale and Newton to concentration camps.

    If you make a habit of ranting about how you want to kill the yids, a quite reasonable point about media bias is more likely to get censored. Heck, Scott Alexander still hasn’t forgiven me for insulting Bryan Caplan. ;)

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  67. decimating the conventional wisdom

    Why, why do people say things like this. Decimating means “removing 1/10″ not “devastating.”

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  68. The paranoid style of America’s (and now Israel’s) intellectual elites.

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  69. The neocons aren’t the Jewish establishment (which is moderately left-wing), the neocons are a bunch of intellectuals who moved right when the USSR turned on Israel and are now drifting back because they see the Trumpists as sort of like the American equivalent of Polish peasants with pitchforks.

    Being only a halfie I can see both sides–I get that everyone’s afraid of Weimar 1933, but that country had only a few decades of democracy and a whole third of the country that wanted to go back to monarchy. The DNVP didn’t have a rabbi opening their convention in the 1930s.

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  70. Thanks!

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  71. Yes and no. ‘Decimare’ was the original Roman punishment of having 9 out of 10 soldiers kill the other 1/10, but it’s pretty much been decupled to mean ‘destroyed’ in modern English. There are all kinds of other examples–I’m told the French, for example, actually *don’t* have a word for entrepreneur, because ‘entrepreneur’ just means ‘business owner’. (Any French people care to comment?)

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  72. “Polling is a bit spotty due to low sample size, but it appears that European Jewish voters vote for “mainstream nationalist” parties like Front National at high rates.”

    Be careful. A lot has to do with local history–the German NDP, for example, is strongly antisemitic. I suspect what’s happening in France is the principal source of ‘diversity’ is Muslims, who are attacking Jews in the streets.

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  73. For many years, I’ve been arguing that Americans should pay Israelis the compliment of studying what works for them and trying it for ourselves here in America.

    A compliment that will always go unrequited and unreciprocated – whatever delusional Right-wing admirers say.

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  74. Ich bin keine Kaganovitch, but here goes:

    I don’t know what your average Scarsdale dentist thinks, and I’m hardly typical of the breed, but as far as the elites go:

    1. Left-wing Jews feel a need to identify with the oppressed (they are leftwingers after all), and Trump’s racism (such as it is) reminds them of old antisemitic statements. A lot of it is Ellis Island worship, more or less, as well as ‘They came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist…’ The idea is that because of their history of persecution, they have a duty to speak up for other persecuted groups.

    2. Neocons are scared s***less of white supremacists and neo-Nazis. I think the Israel issue is secondary here; everyone gets fed endless Holocaust stories (yes, I agree it happened, the point is they’re constantly reminded about it in childhood) and a lot of them see Nazis under every table.

    Personally I’d like to see Trump force the Israelis to the negotiating table; this settlement thing isn’t sustainable over the long-term. They’re overplaying their hand, and it won’t end well for them.

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  75. I actually think Nuland is acting in her capacity as an agent of the American empire, not as a Jew. They want to weaken Russia as a rival power, so they support Ukrainian separatism.

    For my part, I want to see America strong, but I don’t think extending a rival alliance to Putin’s borders is such a hot idea.

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  76. “This can’t be the first time you’ve seen a Zionist utter a bald-faced lie so bad you find it insulting. This is a lot of Jews’ strange way of telling the truth with lies. What he means is, Trump has exposed Jewish jingoism and prejudice and resentment of non-Jewish whites that was there all along.”

    He hasn’t even done that. He’s studiously avoided going after Jews or Israel. What he has done is push all the neocons’ Nazi buttons.

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  77. Yeah, they’re all massively triggered – not rational at all. Even the pundits I didn’t know were Jewish are uncontrollably outing themselves in frenzy. It would be quite comical if this sort of thing didn’t have a habit of ending in tears

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  78. let trump win! stop whining! the constitution and separation of powers is working as designed!

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  79. it worked with this joker!with a few glitches!

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  80. However, Jewish voters and congressmen strongly opposed the Iraq War, more than any other group except black congressmen.

    The people who opposed the Iraq invasion were (1) White “racists”, (2) Lew Rockwell libertarians, (3) Justin Raimondo, and (4) miscellaneous alt-righters. Remember, disagreeing with something and opposing something are not the same thing.

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  81. Yes and no. ‘Decimare’ was the original Roman punishment of having 9 out of 10 soldiers kill the other 1/10, but it’s pretty much been decupled to mean ‘destroyed’ in modern English.

    That really doesn’t matter since almost everyone here knows the word’s original meaning. If you mean “destroy” or “devastate”, say it!

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  82. Yes, I think you are right. Once the genie is out of the bottle the worry is what comes next? And is what comes next controllable by Jewish elites? However, the problem with this line of thinking is that the typical paranoia of Jews assumes that what comes next is gong to be anti -Semitic whereas there is no reason it has to be.

    I mean Reagan was was for free markets (and people were very scared of him IIRC), but thirty years later are we living in a libertarian wet dream? No. Just because there is drift toward nationalism, to correct thirty years of not giving a fuck about the working poor and middle class (uncontrolled immigration and terrible trade deals that only benefit the 1%) who are primarily White does not mean we will have the rise of Nazism. For Crying out loud, Donald has Orthodox Jewish grandchildren!

    Given the quite horrible way starting with Clinton that two parties have conspired to screw the American public for the benefit of Wall Street and the Chamber of Commerce, do they really expect that there would no reaction? Are they that insane and deluded? Trump is just a mild but energetic expression of these pressures.

    Whites in particular are undergoing a “soft genocide” (TM) (i.e.,unlimited immigration, outsourcing, in sourcing, and affirmative action, and demonizing being White in the press and media) as is evidenced by the much talked about change in White longevity in the USA. Do people think Whites will do nothing in response to these pressures? So far White despair has been inner directed in suicide by drug and alcohol abuse etc…, but is inevitable that it will become outer directed if the suffering is not ameliorated. Why, because not all Whites are inner directed who tend to self-harm under these circumstances. Most are not.

    De Tocqueville observed that most revolutions start when rising expectations are dashed.

    I wonder that if Donald Trump is unsuccessful in ameliorating the suffering of the White lower and middle classes, and uniting people of all races, we will than get a real firebrand …someone more along the lines of a real Hitler?

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this were to happen. I think that is the greater danger IMO, because it will entail a lot of suffering by everyone Whites included.

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  83. >>>>“Israeli joe sixpack”

    >> Is that a thing?

    By *far* the largest portion of the population. And most are infantrymen in the reserves until age 40-50 (depends on rank). As in, actually ==get mobilized== at least once a year to go man a checkpoint against people who want to kill.

    The Hebrew slang is: Sakh’eem

    where “kh” is the gutteral like the ch in the Scottish word “Loch”. Accent on last syllable. But just barely.

    In Hebrew:

    סחים

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  84. >> a permanent ban on Muslim immigration and officially makes Islam a second-class religion in Israel

    false, and false.

    >> Netanyahu has

    You may not like our laws – but they are laws. There are no decrees. And don’t bellyache to me about the Military Government in Judea & Samaria. Or we’ll fix that by pulling a California/Texas/Oklahoma/etc – annexing them.

    And you’ll do the same thing then, that you did when Putin made his move in Crimea. Huff & puff on the internet.

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  85. Lot >>> Israel is the only place in the entire world where the tide is moving against Muslims, where they are in a geographic, political, and demographic decline

    You clearly have never been to Rakhine.

    Nice try, but no cigar.

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  86. Steve, you’re not right about Israel.

    The rich are thriving.

    Most Israelis are not.

    Same as here.

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  87. Personally I’d like to see Trump force the Israelis to the negotiating table; this settlement thing isn’t sustainable over the long-term. They’re overplaying their hand, and it won’t end well for them.

    It is quite sustainable. Israel has a high birthrate and immigration rate, and it is quickly filling up the good parts of the West Bank with settlements. My problem with their policy is that it is too influenced by religion rather than plain nationalism. The perfect example of this is Hebron. It once had a large Jewish community and religious significance to them (supposedly the burial site of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob), but was ethnically cleansed by Muslims a long time ago. Right now out of a population of 200,000, about 500 are Jews. Keeping them safe requires a lot of resources and it is just stupid for them to be there. There are no important resources, and it antagonizes the Arabs to no good end.

    Much better to just divide up the area into as few pieces as possible.

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  88. You clearly have never been to Rakhine.

    You know I almost Burma as the one other example, and other parts of Asia maybe providing others. A poor Buddhist dictatorship has a lot less to each us against resisting Islamification however than a modern western democracy like Israel.

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  89. 1) Who are these evangelicals anyway? I have never met one in my life. Never.

    Oh, they’re out there, all over the Midwest especially, where I live. They’re good people, as a rule. Total salt of the earth, kind-hearted, caring, giving, valuers of liberty, hard-working, earnest in their religious beliefs. I tend to like them very much as individuals. But, man, are they absolutely deluded when it comes to Israel and to post-Temple Judaism in general (which is not the religion of the Old Testament!), thanks to Dispensationalism and Scofield Bible nonsense. It’s crap like that that illustrates the wisdom of the Catholic Church in having “three pillars” of authority — Tradition, the Magisterium, and Scripture — as opposed to “Scripture Alone” (sola scriptura), where each man is his own Pope, what with their being experts in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, ancient Hebrew culture and all.

    Granted, the present Pope’s off in his own universe, and is wrong about a million things, but nothing he’s been saying has any magisterial authority, so you can take those ramblings pretty much as you would those of some guy sitting next to you on the bus, smelling of malt liquor and indo (well, and prudently, with respect for his office and all that, if you’re Catholic).

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  90. Trump or his brain trust are miles ahead of the rest. The more the insiders bash trump the more votes he wins.

    He probably has a double so an assasination would backfire too.

    If his nomination or election is blocked
    then he becomes the leader of an insurgency far more powerful that that which preceded the fall if the soviet union.

    In fact this is the american version of the fall of the ussr. No the analogy is nor a bullseye but it is on target. Sooner or later the ussa will fall and america will recover as russia did from the fall of the ussr.

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  91. Wealth disparity exists in israel as in the u s.

    Nevertheless both are a magnet for foreigners from failed states. Arabs are better off in israel and mexicans in the u.s. despite griping about stolen land.

    This is the realpolitik of western imperialism which includes japs and jews because advanced culture is not synonomous with white supremacy.

    Culture not color dominates history.

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  92. Bingo

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  93. Didn’t bother to read through the other comments, but I’ll just say what I always say: I’m an unabashedly philosemitic Christian. I like and respect Jews. I like and respect Israel. All I want is a Likud-like nationalism for the U.S.

    I’m like Matt Damon’s character in “The Good Shepherd.” The Catholics have their church. The Jews have their traditions. Us Protestants? We’ve got the United States of America. That’s our Pope and our Israel. Why is that so bad? We don’t want to put anybody in ovens. We kind of like people who forcefully stand up for themselves. Why aren’t we allowed to do that?

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  94. The worst kind of western leader, for Israel, is a naïve post-nationalist. Bent on abolishing his own people, such a leader expects Israel to get stupid in the same way

    Sort of, but merely failing to act will doom Israel. It cannot go on as it is.

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  95. I would only somewhat agree (American living in France). I would say that “entrepreneurial spirit” is something for which French lacks a convenient phrase, not that the spirit is completely absent. It’s too bad they can’t just re-appropriate the word (as other languages can), as it already exists in French. For instance, we use “esprit de corps” because it concisely expresses a useful concept.

    They do have “Homme (ou femme) d’affaires” but the meaning is more “captain of industry” or “business magnate” implying someone who sits at the top of successful business affairs, and possibly has built it themselves. It carries the sense of immensity, I think.

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personnalit%C3%A9_du_monde_des_affaires

    However, the English sense of entrepreneur is sneaking into common French:

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrepreneur

    “Current use includes the head of a business (CEO or owner), as much as someone leading a business project underway, as much as leading an established business, the latter which is more often identified strictly and personally;

    Entrepreneur equally corresponds to the name given to the leaders of building or public works businesses;

    In [French business] law, entrepreneur (or maître d’œuvre) designates “the person who – in a business contract- has engaged to fulfill a job in response to the request of a maître d’œuvre”.

    The Personality of an Entrepreneur:
    The identification of the entrepreneur with his project or established company explains the strong degree of his investment (in it). As opposed the term “homme d’affaires” the term entrepreneur gives the understanding that the individual is strongly materially or mentally/emotionally invested in the development and deployment of his project.

    Further on, the wikipedia article states that there is a difference between a manager (gestionnaire) and an entrepreneur, citing André Citroën (who transformed the company from a tool maker into an automobile maker). Then they cite an Ernst and Young study, so I am taking their meaning of entrepreneur to be promoting the English meaning.

    However, in 2008, France created a new category of work, called “auto-entrepreneur”, meaning “self-employed” that was meant to complement the normal categories of salaried employee, commercial business owner, artisans (small time and independent workers), and profession libérale (law, medicine, and so on). It was meant to allow people to have a small side business either alongside their normal employment or in retirement, not to be “self-employed” as we have the category in the US. So, it may be that the meaning of the word is changing to take on more of a “risk-taker” sense as English has.

    A good discussion of the auto-entrepreneur status as it relates to the historical French work classifications is found at Jean Taquet’s blog:

    http://www.jeantaquet.com/issues/issue-march15.php

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  96. “The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendent quality.” – Ben Wattenberg. He also noted that “melting pot” Zangwill was a Zionist, which in a definition of the time was “a Jew who tries to persuade a second Jew to convince a third Jew to emigrate to Palestine”.

    The members of the Lobby don’t live in Israel, so its survival as a Jewish state is not their true priority. They are primarily interested in how they can be important people in the US. Arguing for Israel to do what it needs to do in order to survive as a Jewish state, which happens to be something only President Trump might accept, would damage their personal prestige.

    Wattenberg is quite representative of influential Jews, inasmuch he rehashes the greatest hit (condemning white gentiles as perpetually teetering over a slippery slope to a Fourth Reich) while ignoring or hand waving about Israel’s situation. He is patted on the head for that, as a good little boy, and gets to feel important.

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    You may not like our laws – but they are laws. There are no decrees. And don’t bellyache to me about the Military Government in Judea & Samaria. Or we’ll fix that by pulling a California/Texas/Oklahoma/etc – annexing them.

    And you’ll do the same thing then, that you did when Putin made his move in Crimea. Huff & puff on the internet.

    Israel has already annexed the West Bank (formerly, the occupied territories), boychik. Against the will of the natives. And jews did nothing to stop it. A few huff & puff on the Internet to keep up their progressive charade and to block the emergence of real opposition.

    Crimea is inapposite. That was a reunification, not an annexation.

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  98. Thanks for this, from those of us who aren’t willing to pay Haaretz good money to read their “persecuted” missives.

    While the typical zionist pretzel-logic in this piece makes it seem like the Jews genuinely fear Trump, I think it was none other than Noam Chomsky who said that Haaretz is nothing more than a left-wing Jewish propaganda rag, to be read only by Westerners.

    So, this could be a highly-construed attempt to get us to LIKE Trump. Something about “the enemy of my enemy is a friend” comes to mind……

    Psyops ‘R Us is the name of the game for the Chosen Ones.

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  99. “My problem with their policy is that it is too influenced by religion rather than plain nationalism. ” – Their religion is their nationalism. Hitler tried to emulate Jewish nationalism (Herrenvolk=chosen people) but did not have the glue of religion so Germans had nothing to fall back in defeat.

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  100. Haaretz is a left wing rag representative of virtually no one in Israel but the far left. This is like quoting the Nation as “the view from America”. It has the lowest circulation of any “major” newspaper in Israel but for some reason it is always quoted by the foreign press. The paper is Netanyahu deranged.

    Most Israelis do not understand or care about US domestic politics. But Trump’s platform of a strong borders, protection of domestic industry and protection of the native demographic is the accepted norm in Israel and would be considered utterly unremarkable – except by Haaretz. (It is also why left wing US Jews are increasingly disenchanted with Israel.) Except for one thing, Trump himself would do well as a politician in Israel. That one thing is lack of military service.

    Israel and the West , especially Europe, will increasingly diverge. First because the West becomes more Muslim and less nationalist while Israel becomes less Muslim and more nationalist. We will see which way America goes. Like the host, I am hoping we imitate Israel and not Europe.

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    J-Street Jews, neocon Jews and right-wing Israeli Jews aren’t the same people. The neocons and right-wing Israelis hate the J-Streeters.

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  102. Another important minority group is starting to flex some muscle. After former Yankees captain and first baseman and new Marlins manager Don Mattingly announced a no facial hair rule for players on the Marlins, he was forced to apologize to the Mustached American community by the American Mustache Institute. Mattingly achieved some fame outside the baseball world after battling with George Steinbrenner about getting a haircut. He played well when he had a mustache, and he was called a hypocritical shame to his Mustached American heritage.

    http://www.americanmustacheinstitute.org/2016/03/mattingly-apologizes-for-shaming-mustached-american-community/

    http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/sports/baseball/pro-mustache-group-angered-by-don-mattinglys-marli/nqbP4/?icmp=pbp_internallink_referralbox_free-to-premium-referral

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    But Wattenberg is not representative of non-elite Jews, which is most of us, certainly those of us who read this blog and its comments.

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  104. Ha’aretz is not “the view from Israel”.

    Speaking from personal experience, views about Trump in Israel are much more positive than in Britain. Trump, like it or not, fairly or not, is loathed across most of the White world. I saw a hilarious article in The Telegraph (Britain’s allegedly right wing boradsheet -link below) about how Trump is a sexist pig because his wife says they don’t argue or something. Conversely 80%+ Israelis think he would be an improvement on Obama. English speaking Israelis tend to be more against.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/donald-trumps-treatment-of-his-own-wife-is-the-one-thing-more-of/

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  105. Dictator is also untrue when it comes to Assad. He has been elected, and will be re-elected in Syrian elections April 2.

    The term “dictator” as used in the US is as meaningless as xenophobic or homophobic. Remember Milosevic, the “dictator” who was elected, under their Constitution, by receiving more than 50% of the votes of not less than 60% of the electorate? Meanwhile, in the US, the Supreme Court elected Bush 43, but that was “democracy”.

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  106. Of course, in the long run, Trump has no chance since the Zionist powers-that-be are aligned against him. But he has stirred up something, and it might not go away for some time.

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    Obviously, the main issue is Jews vs Trump. Trump isn’t anti-Jewish but he is not solely Jew-centric, and this upsets Jews. Jewish Neocons think GOP exists to serve Jewish and Zionist interests first and foremost.

    We hear all these Jews complaining about how Trump is all about the Authoritarian Personality and Paranoid Style in American Politics, but this is rather amusing coming from Jews, the most authoritarian(even totalitarian) and paranoid people in the world. Jews see Hitler everywhere. Every time there is someone in the world they don’t like, he is the ‘new hitler’ and US military must get ready to squash him. Or US must economically sanction and destroy that nation.

    Trump’s business associates are Jewish. His daughter is married to a Jew and even converted to Jewishness and raised kid as Jew. But he is ‘hitler’ because he won’t give Jews 100% on everything. If Jews say Russia must be destroyed, it must be destroyed. The fact that Trump wants good relations with Russia makes him Hitler. This is rather amusing since Neocon Jews and Obama(tool of Liberal Zionist Jews) worked with Neo-Nazis in Ukraine to topple the government. And US’s invocation of human rights is so hollow since it is such close allies with Saudi Arabia, which still practices Medievialism, and with Israel, a nation founded on European Imperialism and ethnic cleansing of indigenous people. Afrikaners imposed separateness but didn’t throw blacks out of black lands. If anything, more blacks were attracted to white-ruled South Africa. In contrast, so-called Israel Democracy was made possible only because Jews secured majority status by expelling 800,000 people from Palestine. And West Bank is still under occupation and Israel used horrible violence to crush enemies in Gaza and Lebanon. (US imperialism cynically uses ‘democracy’ to invade and control other peoples. So, Zionist destruction of Palestinians was justified because… uh… Israel is a democracy and has ‘gay parades’. US does this all over the world. Economically or militarily destroys other nations in the name of spreading democracy and ‘western values’, which now amounts to planting homo flags and flooding the airwaves of other nations with Miley Cyrus concerts. If US wants to wreck another nation, we know how it will play out. US will say it was for ‘human rights’ and to spread ‘democracy’. Yeah, like in Iraq and Libya. And to support ‘moderate rebels’ in Syria when, in fact, they are just Alqaeda with a new name. But then, US is is the nation that once supported Osama Bin Laden as ‘freedom fighter’.)

    US cooked up bogus claims against Gaddafi to crush him and destroy Libya but allows Israel to amass 300 illegal nukes and go on occupying and stealing Palestinian land. US thinks it is morally superior and has the right to push the world around because… uh.. lessee… it has ‘gay marriage’. Imagine that. So, Russia is Eeeeeeeeeevil because it doesn’t have ‘gay marriage’ and doesn’t permit homo paraders to desecrate Red Square that commemorates the sacrifice of 20 million Russians in WWII.

    We know that the homo agenda is the proxy of Jewish globalist imperialism. It is funded by Wall Street, Hollywood, Las Vegas, Silicon Valley, Harvard, Yale, and etc. dominated by Jewish interests. It is to undermine national cultures and make them easier for globalist penetration. In the US, you will now be destroyed professionally if you express disdain for homosexual lifestyle. That is called ‘freedom’ and ‘tolerance’. Jews are very clever. They gain AUTHORITARIAN control over us but then call it ‘freedom’ and ‘liberty’. We live in a nation where someone cracking a joke about Bruce ‘Caitlyn’ Jenner can end up in hot water. And millennials raised by PC helicopter parents no longer value free speech. 70% of millennial freshmen want free speech suppressed if it offends certain favored groups, esp Jews, blacks, and homos. As for Russians, Iranians, Chinese, Muslims, and etc, they can still be bashed since Jews hate them. Look how Jewish Neocons are using Poles against Russia, Japanese against China, and the vile Saudis against Iran. The Saudi case shows that the Jewish-Homo campaign is a cynical ploy. If it is so important, why push it on Russia and Japan but not on Saudi Arabia? Because Saudis are close allies of the US. It comes under NO human rights scrutiny. Obama and Hillary, both shills of Jews, call Putin the ‘new hitler’ even though homosexuality is legal in Russia, but shake hands with Saudi royals who preside over a nation where homos and others can be beheaded for the slightest infraction.

    Anyway, just look how Jewish Power and AIPAC pressures all US politicians to pledge to Israel. What do Mitt Romney and Bernie Sanders have in common? They both cheered the mass killing of women and children in Gaza. Even though Jews occupy Palestinian lands, we must make believe Jews are under attack by ‘nazi’ Palestinians.

    Jews are only 2% of population but control so much. But Jews see no problem with that. Jews bitch about how ‘white privilege’ is unfair and that certain groups are under-represented, but that’s all just smoke-and-mirrors to hide the fact that it is Jewish privilege, not white gentile privilege, that is totally out of control. Indeed, white gentile representation in elite colleges is way below the national share of the population. But Jews hide Jewish privilege behind ‘white privilege’ and then blame white gentiles, indeed as if Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and etc are dominated by Southern hillbillies and Texan cowboys.
    And look at the Fed. It’s been Jewish controlled for as long as I can remember. This Yellen is yet another Jew, and she got some guy named Fischer, an Israeli to boot, to work alongside her. Now, if someone noticed that there are ‘too many Jews’, Jews would scream antisemitic. But these Jews always bitch about ‘too many whites’. The Hypocritical Style of Jewish Politics is incredible. And it is Ethno-Authoritarian, predicated on the notion that the 2% should rule over the 98%. Jewish attitude toward Americans is like British attitude toward Indians during imperialism. The small minority should rule over the rest. Yet, Jews bitch about Authoritarian Personality. Talk about projection!

    Neocons are a small percentage of the Republican Party, but they insist that GOP serve Zionism and Jewish centrism above all. Talk about authoritarian, or even totalitarian, personality.
    Hillary is supposed to be a ‘progressive’, but she turns her nose up at Palestinians who still live under occupation because she takes money from Goldman Sachs. And so-called ‘progressive’ Jews find nothing wrong with Jews getting special favors from Hillary and other whore politicians.

    But if you notice Jewish power, you end up like Rick Sanchez or Helen Thomas(whose great sin was having said that European Zionist imperialists should go back to Europe. Why is that offensive? Why Gandhi wrong when he said Brits should go home? Was Ho Chi Minh wrong when he said Americans should go home? Were the Algerians wrong when they said French imperialists should go home?) Jews bitch about authoritarian McCarthy, but McCarthy was around for just few yrs. Jewish authoritarianism that destroys careers and silences voices never goes away.

    It should be obvious that Jews were never about free speech. They just invoked it to gain power. It was all about SPEECH CONTROL. When Wasps had speech control, Jews resented it because they wanted it for themselves. So, Jews invoked ‘free speech’ to weaken and undermine wasp power. But once Jews gained the power, they began to silence and destroy everyone they didn’t like.

    This is classic Jewish Authoritarian Personality in action.
    GOP welcomed Neocons into the party, but when Neocons took power, they purged everyone they didn’t like. They acted just like the Bolsheviks.
    Yet, these Jews bitch about how OTHER people suffer from ‘authoritarian personalities’.

    http://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2012/05/28/how-bill-kristol-purged-the-arabists/

    So, what Jews really wanted was not free speech for all but free speech as temporary weapon to gain power of speech control. Now that Jews got speech control, they wanna shut people down and push European-like laws where people can be fined and jailed for speaking truth to Jewish Power. Jews cleverly use terms like ‘hate speech’, but of course, they decide what is ‘hate speech’. Zionism, an ideology that called for massive ethnic cleansing, Jewish racial consciousness, Jewish nationalism, and ruthless violence against Palestinians is NOT hate speech according to Jews. But if you one notices the truth and says ‘Jews control US politicians like so many whores’, oh that is ‘antisemitic hate speech’. Very very clever.

    Now, I think mindless anti-Jewishness is wrong because there are plenty of conscientious and decent Jews. But most Jewish people don’t have the power. We have to focus on Jewish Power, and it is evil, corrupt, dishonest, repressive, and exploitative. Just like there were many decent Germans in Nazi Germany but were ineffective against evil Nazi power, there seem to be many good Jews in the US but are ineffective against Jewish Elite Power that is hellbent on spreading wars all over, destroying lives who don’t celebrate homosexuality, silencing and purging all critics of Israel and Zionism, the hate ideology of Jewish supremacism against Palestinians.
    The evil Powerful Jews in California and Florida are even passing laws banning BDS movement and forbidding anyone associated with it from doing business with the government. Imagine that! And there is total silence about this even in the Liberal Jewish community.

    When Jewish power runs amok, it does things like this:

    http://nypost.com/2001/02/15/how-marc-helped-plunder-russia/

    Given what happened to Russia due to globalist Jewish conniving, you would think at least the nice conscientious Jews would try to understand the Russian position and work toward mutual understanding.
    Instead, Jews push pussy riot and homo agenda on Russia as part of globalist Zionist-US imperialism, and when Russia pushes it back, Jews cry ‘authoritarianism’ and ‘repression’.

    Now, are Russians trying to force Russian Orthodox ideology or Russian nationalism on Americans? NO. Russians just wanna mind their own business. it is the Jewish-controlled US that uses its military and financial and cultural power to force the homo agenda on other nations. So, Jews are the aggressive cultural aggressors but cry ‘victim’ when other nations say
    “No, we don’t want this garbage.”
    While tolerance for homos is a good thing, why would any nation want to celebrate homsexuality? How would Americans like it IF, say, the Chinese were into incest and tried to push ‘incest marriage’ and ‘incest pride parades’ on the US and then accused US of being ‘new nazis’ for not allowing it?

    But this is what Jewish globalist imperialists do with the homo agenda. It is a new form of imperialism masked as ‘spreading human rights’.
    Of course, US is a paragon of human rights because Christian bakers who won’t bake cakes for ‘gay weddings’ are fined, economically destroyed, and sent to jail.

    Imagine if incest-lobby forced ‘incest marriage’ on everyone and then used government to destroy businesses that won’t cater to ‘incest marriage’.

    This homo stuff isn’t about equality. It is about homo supremacism promoted by Jews to institutionalize elite minority domination, an idea favored by Jews because Jews are elite minorities in US and EU.

    Of course, what I’ve just written would be called ‘hate speech’ in so-called bastions of higher education that are supposed to encourage free debate and speaking to power. There is no way to rise up in academia or media unless one kisses the ass of Jewish supremacist power. No matter how respected your reputation, if you displease Jews, you are finished and will end up destroyed and lonely like Helen Thomas. No one came to her aid when she was destroyed for speaking up for her ethnic brethren.

    American moral logic goes as follow:

    If a Jew says “It was great for European Jews to drive out indigenous Palestinians and grab the land and force Palestinians to live under Jewish occupation”, he or she is showered with prizes and given a seat at Harvard, Goldman Sachs, and the Fed.

    If an Arab-American says, “European Jews who stole land from Palestinians should return the land and go back to Europe”, he or she is destroyed on the spot, and no one come near him or her lest they be destroyed for ‘guilty by association’.

    Yet, Jews bitch about how OTHER people suffer from ‘authoritarian personality’ disorder.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/salaita-palestine-challenging/

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  107. Thea >>> It appears Israel under Likud/GOP leadership is on a collision course for South African style realignment.

    I imagine that next, you’ll be re-gurgitating the American/European doctrine that with just a ==little bit== more training time, the Afghan National Army will be able to attain Total Victory.

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  108. The late mass murderer is( I’m told) a distant relative. Really one of the monsters of the 20th century.

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  109. Against the will of the natives.

    Are these “natives” indigenous, or are they Arabs?

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  110. The use of “decimate” to describe non-quantifyable damage is a clear sign of semi-literacy. Forgivable among the common folk, contemptible among writers.

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  111. See Pinker’s “A Sense of Style” for a calm discussion of the use of “decimate.”

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  112. We have plenty of words for “destroy,” but if we lose “decimate” we have no word for “reduce by one-tenth.” It’s not too late.

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  113. I don’t know about his views on “decimate,” but I did read his views on expressing yourself in “The Language Instinct,” and despite generally liking his style and having read both “How the Mind Works” and “The Blank Slate,” I couldn’t finish that one. He left me with the notion that he could just have easily written the book in ebonics but didn’t merely because it would lower the book’s stature in other people’s estimation for arbitrary reasons. Yeah, right.

    I wanted to throw “The Language Instinct” at the wall, and may have. I don’t remember. I know I didn’t finish it. Only a matter of time, I suppose, as I couldn’t go on agreeing with a Canadian Harvardian forever. But the idea that we can’t be moral about grammar, word choice, and writing in general that so tyrannizes academic officialdom in all areas of language gets my goat. It would be as if anthropologists were to suddenly declare we can’t have rules against murder because human societies are always changing what they consider murder. Firstly, that’s madness. Secondly , it’s not really your area of expertise, Mr. Anthropologist, so shut up. (Unfortunately, professors of law can’t be relied upon either.)

    Maybe Pinker is with me on “decimate,” however, in which case nevermind. He does write well, as I said. Maybe his “Language Instinct” nonsense was just for that context, and when freed to talk about style as it should be he morphs back into a reasonable person. It’s just that I have a brother who’s a professor of Spanish linguistics, we’ve had an argument about “decimate” specifically (after watching the horrific Star Trek: Into Darkness), and he trotted out the same, old “Language Instinct” arguments. I cannot stomach reading Pinker on the subject again.

    I highly recommend Jacques Barzun’s essay on rhetoric (I forget the title) from “The Culture We Deserve.” I tried to get my brother to read it, but he wouldn’t.

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    Are these “natives” indigenous, or are they Arabs?

    They are both, naturally.

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    […] was die heiße Kartoffel Israel betrifft, ist Springteufel Trump nicht zu fassen: einerseits lobt er Bibi Netanjahu in höchsten Tönen, redet dann aber auch einer Zwei-Staaten-Lösung mit  neutralem Jerusalem das […]

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  116. Tracy >>> post-Temple Judaism in general (which is not the religion of the Old Testament!)

    You obviously are not familiar with the Ortho-Jewish prayer book. And why would you be, it’s in Hebrew.

    Every single aspect of the FIRST Temple rituals, are noted in today’s prayers, which mostly haven’t been changed WHATSOEVER from at least the Bar-Kochba revolt (AD 135)

    disclaimer: I am not religiously observant. However, I can read Hebrew.

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  117. On the off chance that anyone is actually interested in “the view from Israel” about Trump rather than Steve Sailer’s selection of an far Left non-Zionist rag with more English than Hebrew readers, presented as if it was an actual representation of what “Zionists” believe, in order to promote a fantasy narrative in which THE LIKUD !!!!!! is standing in the way of patriotic immigration reform (presumably we’re not far off another fundraising drive) – someone did a poll recently.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/israelis-unruffled-by-trump-left-cold-by-bernie-poll/

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  118. Springteufel Trump | Die ganze Wahrheit
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    […] was die heiße Kartoffel Israel betrifft, ist Springteufel Trump nicht zu fassen: einerseits lobt er Bibi Netanjahu in höchsten Tönen, redet dann aber auch einer Zwei-Staaten-Lösung mit  neutralem Jerusalem das […]

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  119. My sincere apologies for insensitive joke.
    I personally never met L.M.Kaganovich.
    However, in around 1970-1980 I have seen
    Vyacheslav Mikhailovich Molotov (about 90 years old at the time),
    walking by, near his “dacha”,
    for which he still was entitled as former Prime-Minister
    (Chairman of the Council of Peoples Commissars.)

    Best to you and your loved ones, Mr. Kaganovich.
    Your I.f.f.U.

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