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Thomas Edsall mulls over Hillary’s strategic blunders in the NYT:

The difference in the rhetorical strategy of Hillary Clinton and Theresa May is one of stress and underscoring. While May made sure her identity group stands were secondary to her pronounced commitment to the working men and women of England generally, Clinton frequently placed her focus on identity groups.

Take her speech in Nevada a week before the state’s caucuses in February:

“Not everything is about an economic theory, right?” Clinton told a gathering in Henderson:

“If we broke up the big banks tomorrow — and I will, if they deserve it, if they pose a systemic risk, I will — would that end racism?”

“No,” the audience replied.

“Would that end sexism?”

“No.”

“Would that end discrimination against the LGBT community?”

“No.”

“Would that make people feel more welcoming to immigrants overnight?”

“No.” …

Every campaign seeks to mobilize specific constituencies. Identity politics are, and have always been, a fact of life. The issue is what takes precedence: those constituency-specific appeals or a sustained emphasis on a more encompassing appeal to a broad economic class.

Donald Trump won the presidency on an identity politics counterpunch: the mobilization of angry white voters, most of them men. White men supported Trump over Hillary Clinton 62 percent to 31 percent, while white women supported Trump by a more modest margin, 52 to 43. Clinton’s emphasis on her gender appears to have helped Trump in key battlegrounds.

The approach developed by May and her staff, and by the Obama and Bill Clinton campaigns before her, addresses a question that nags at Democratic strategists: How do you establish a commonweal when everyone is looking to have his or her own concerns ratified?

The tried and true way for a politician to market a coalitional regime amid a cacophony of particularistic demands is to forcefully assert the primacy of the whole. This worked for the Obama insurgency in 2008 because his coalition members were willing to temporarily suspend their immediate demands in favor of a more encompassing victory.

Looking toward the future, Democrats might turn the tables on the Republicans and explicitly demonize Trump and his party as proponents of an exclusionary politics of white male identity.

But it is also legitimate to ask whether the age of identity politics is coming to an end. One lesson of 2016 is that opposition to multiculturalism has become an extraordinarily powerful mobilizing tool for the right. It has spurred the emergence of a white lower- and middle-income Republican party while simultaneously invigorating the formerly insignificant alt-right and white supremacists generally.

It would be simplistic to make identity politics the sole culprit of this year’s Democratic defeat, especially in light of Clinton’s 2.4 million popular vote margin. While universalistic appeals have a certain allure in the face of particularistic clamor, it is unlikely that either identity politics or its hyperactive watchdog, political correctness — the current whipping boys of postelection analysis — will disappear anytime soon. …

Should the Democrats strive for more subtle, sophisticated and ingenious appeals to their party’s cross-section of identities, including a revivification of the idea of the commonweal? I would say emphatically yes. Trump’s recent victory notwithstanding, the debate over how to do this needs to move forward on a higher plane, without the name calling, if it is to have any chance of success.

I’d like that to happen for the good of the country, but my guess is that more likely will be that the anti-straight white gentile maleism that was such a driving force for Democrats over the last few years now has in Donald Trump, the Blond Beast himself, Haven Monahan’s Bad Dad, a physical embodiment of their years of hate whom they conjured up with their rage.

President Trump is like the emergence of the Stay-Puft Marshallow Man as The Destroyer at the end of Ghostbusters, except for one guy conjuring up the thought in his head, most of our cultural elite has been dreaming/dreading/exploiting the fear of the Coming of the Blond Beast for decades to justify their domination of power and thought. The counter-revolution of Emonahanal Havenstein has triumphed.

 
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    “Should the Democrats strive for more subtle, sophisticated and ingenious appeals to their party’s cross-section of identities, including a revivification of the idea of the commonweal?”

    That was the GOP platform before Trump came along.

    GOP was open to all on the basis of equality and liberty.

    But Democrats assaulted it with blatant anti-white-ism. Democrats said non-whites deserve special favors and recognition because whites are so evil and ‘privileged’.

    Of course, Jews, the most privileged people, played on this theme because they would rather have people notice ‘white privilege’ than ‘Jewish privilege’.

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    • Replies: @Thirdeye

    GOP was open to all on the basis of equality and liberty.
     
    You seem to have forgotten about Romney's "47%" comment, which was a big middle finger to less economically privileged Americans that confirmed everyone's worst suspicions about that job exporter. McCain-Palin's rhetoric was also pretty exclusionary. Trump's message towards US citizens was actually more inclusive.

    Hilly took the opposite approach from her husband on identity issues, spewing Balkanizing crap where Bill delivered some pretty strong challenges to identity politics while becoming the most popular US President among blacks until Obama. Forgetting that lesson was a thunderously stupid move on her part.
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  2. Edsall’s take on the 2008 election doesn’t cut it. Obama’s success was due to the combination of being on the one hand every liberal’s wet dream–an Ivy-educated “articulate black man” , and on the other hand, the farce that was the McCain-Palin ticket.

    Obama won by surfing the zeitgeist. Ditto for Trump.

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    • Replies: @Ed
    Once Obama won over white liberals he was set. He got record black turnout and support without ever explicitly engaging in black identity politics. In fact his campaign was careful to steer away from any notion that he would be a "black" president. He was to be the president for ALL Americans.

    The Dems are in a bind because the only way to guarantee high rates of black interest to overcome white defections is to nominate black presidential candidates. That turns everyone else off because it becomes too transparent. Maybe they'll go Hispanic in 2020 but they don't quite have the herd mentality of blacks.
    , @Lagertha
    Don't forget "clean." At that point, I thought Biden would be attacked for being a "badwhite," but that comment was overlooked by the sycophants of MSM and liberals in general.

    Palin was a bad choice...Hillary was a bad choice. I really have to laugh when I think about how pretentious the DNC & GOP really are....how they think we won't notice if some awful candidate is foisted upon us.

    I am still enjoying the utter Epic Fail that the pundits and loudmouths of the media/DNC have had to swallow. They, the "Bad They" have had to realize that "oh shit, I didn't really think those people , who I consider low class, would actually vote for Trump."

    This country, for better or worse, is divided by socioeconomic class first and foremost...not by race. Everyone is fine with "wealthy and articulate" blacks, latinos, Muslims, etc. I mean, that's the way it has been forever in Europe. Everything comes down to money and sex.

    I agree that Trump "arrived" because everyone, and I mean many, were sick of the PC culture fanned for 15-20 years; and, the hatred of WASPS; and the descendants of the Founding Fathers.

    I said this 14 months ago: condescending to the American People by institutions, pundits, elected government people, will backfire. And, duh, major duh, dissing the flag/anthem and burning it was so counterproductive. Every time these awful, the truly deplorable people burnt flags, dissed veterans, beat-up/threw stuff at Trump rally people, was like, Yes! that's another 10,000 people in Ohio that will stick it to these undeserving-of-our vote.

    As an immigrant, I really hated anyone, and I mean anyone, who supported Hillary. I still do. And, I hate the flag burners...and the stupid-assed protesters...but, I guess they went home to mommy and daddy for Thanksgiving before returning back to their 60K/year university for finals in their, no doubt, lame major in political science or some other soft major. Wait until they are waiting tables/selling stuff at CVS and experiencing "class issues."

    , @whorefinder
    Obama also won because we hadn't had a black president before and everyone wanted to vote for him and squeal about it to friends. Then in 2012 people weren't as excited because we'd already had our first black president, so Obama became the first re-elected president in history to garner fewer votes on re-election than election (it's why his 2012 victory was so frustrating, and spurned Trump; Romney didn't attack and win a winnable race).

    Palin was fine; as Trump has proved, even if the media wrongly portrays you as gaffe-tastic, it won't hurt you if you ignore them and plow along. The major problem was the economy collapsing right before the election, which was blamed on Bush, which implicated McCain, running as Bush's third term.

  3. How do you establish a commonweal when everyone is looking to have his or her own concerns ratified?

    You don’t! Welcome to multiculturalism!

    Most people have no idea what a rare luxury it was to have a political system in which ideas played a role and not just tribalism.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Most people have no idea what a rare luxury it was to have a political system in which ideas played a role and not just tribalism.
     
    There's always been an underpinning of tribalism, it's just that the vast majority of us were from the same tribe.

    If you'd like ideas to be ascendent, you might want to encourage polities so constructed.
  4. Speaking of Theresa May, the UK is still in the EU, isn’t it? What’s taking so long?

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    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    The EU may collapse on its own before Britain's traitorous "elites" allow the country to exit.
    , @Forbes
    The UK Supreme Court, on appeal, will be weighing in, possibly before Christmas. The question before it is whether Parliament must vote, or whether the referendum was sufficient.

    The UK Supreme Court is a modern invention (tony Blair era), and by vote Parliament (highest authority in UK) can overrule the SC.
  5. If Clinton hadn’t embraced BLM chances are she wins WI, which had riots in Milwaukee a few months before.

    If she embraced even a modicum of immigration enforcement maybe she even wins in AZ.

    She just wasn’t a good campaigner but in general the Dems have alienated a large swath of the country by stressing the identity politics of marginal groups.

    Black politics are just too outside of the mainstream norms for most non-black Americans. Gays and trannies are just too weird.

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    • Replies: @Thirdeye

    If Clinton hadn’t embraced BLM chances are she wins WI, which had riots in Milwaukee a few months before.
     
    Yep. Polling showed that the whole kerfuffle over the parents of the Muslim soldier killed in Iraq didn't have a lot of shelf life against the next round of BLM riots and police killings.

    Hilly's quick rush over pussygate didn't last against her McCarthyism and warmongering. She was fading before the FBI news about the email investigation. I guess 53% of white women were more concerned about violent crime and nuclear war than having their pussies touched.

    , @BenKenobi

    Black politics are just too outside of the mainstream norms
     
    "If you want a vision of the future, Winston, imagine a frizzy haired mulatto chick screaming into the face of an elderly White professor - forever."
    , @Bugg
    The riots in Charlotte certainly helped Trump take NC.
    , @NOTA
    Didn't black turnout drop substantially for Hillary relative to Obama? It's not clear the appeals to BLM even helped her.
  6. “Not everything is about an economic theory, right?” – Wrong. If Democrats had socio-economic message as they used to have before they sold out to the neoliberalism under Bill Clinton and replaced the economic justice issues with race and gender justice issues nobody would have written “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” book and wondered why Americans were voting against their economic interests. When Bill Clinton and other Democrats started claiming that they were fiscally conservative the democratic party ceased to represent economic interests of American working class and middle class. Under Democrats we had no jobs but we could be proud of having unisex bathrooms and gays and lesbians in military.

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    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    As the gay mayor of Berlin said, "We're poor but at least we're sexy!"
    Which is all the Left has to offer now.
    As E Michael Jones writes: America, like Berlin, is just a big gay disco.
    No jobs but sexual license...
  7. @Connecticut Famer
    Edsall's take on the 2008 election doesn't cut it. Obama's success was due to the combination of being on the one hand every liberal's wet dream--an Ivy-educated "articulate black man" , and on the other hand, the farce that was the McCain-Palin ticket.

    Obama won by surfing the zeitgeist. Ditto for Trump.

    Once Obama won over white liberals he was set. He got record black turnout and support without ever explicitly engaging in black identity politics. In fact his campaign was careful to steer away from any notion that he would be a “black” president. He was to be the president for ALL Americans.

    The Dems are in a bind because the only way to guarantee high rates of black interest to overcome white defections is to nominate black presidential candidates. That turns everyone else off because it becomes too transparent. Maybe they’ll go Hispanic in 2020 but they don’t quite have the herd mentality of blacks.

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    • Agree: International Jew
    • Replies: @Langley
    "Maybe they’ll go Hispanic in 2020 but they don’t quite have the herd mentality of blacks."

    How about Tulsi Gabbard?
    I mean Samoans look Hispanic right?

    She is so popular in Hawaii that the Democrat/Japaneses machine here has begun trying to diminish her appeal:

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/12/01/breaking-news/veterans-group-criticizes-vets-including-u-s-rep-gabbard-joining-pipeline-protest/

  8. “Looking toward the future, Democrats might turn the tables on the Republicans and explicitly demonize Trump and his party as proponents of an exclusionary politics of white male identity.”

    The Democratic Party has already been calling The Republican Party the proponents of an exclusionary politics of White identity since Richard Nixon’s Southern strategy. Was this New York Times article written by a Millennial who is not very informed of U.S history?

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  9. @Anon
    "Should the Democrats strive for more subtle, sophisticated and ingenious appeals to their party’s cross-section of identities, including a revivification of the idea of the commonweal?"

    That was the GOP platform before Trump came along.

    GOP was open to all on the basis of equality and liberty.

    But Democrats assaulted it with blatant anti-white-ism. Democrats said non-whites deserve special favors and recognition because whites are so evil and 'privileged'.

    Of course, Jews, the most privileged people, played on this theme because they would rather have people notice 'white privilege' than 'Jewish privilege'.

    GOP was open to all on the basis of equality and liberty.

    You seem to have forgotten about Romney’s “47%” comment, which was a big middle finger to less economically privileged Americans that confirmed everyone’s worst suspicions about that job exporter. McCain-Palin’s rhetoric was also pretty exclusionary. Trump’s message towards US citizens was actually more inclusive.

    Hilly took the opposite approach from her husband on identity issues, spewing Balkanizing crap where Bill delivered some pretty strong challenges to identity politics while becoming the most popular US President among blacks until Obama. Forgetting that lesson was a thunderously stupid move on her part.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "You seem to have forgotten about Romney’s “47%”"

    Romney wasn't saying they weren't welcome to the GOP. He was saying they would most likely shun the party for economic-ideological reasons. In fact, despite his observation, he did reac out to the working class.

    "McCain-Palin’s rhetoric was also pretty exclusionary."

    Like how?

    McCain the amnesty pusher?

    Also, the issue isn't inclusion vs exclusion since US laws forbid discrimination(except against whites).
    The issue is special favors for certain groups.

    The problem with the Democrats is that IF they favor one group, they alienate another.

    If they hail Israel, they offend Muslims.
    If they hail homos, they offend Christian minorities.
    If they hail Muslims, they offend Jews(despite their pretension of Jew-Muslim alliance against whites).
    If they hail black thuggery, they alienate white working class and immigrant groups.
    If they hail massive immigration, they alienate blacks who are waking up to the fact that Diversity is to create a buffer between white elites and blacks.

    , @Desiderius

    Hilly took the opposite approach from her husband on identity issues, spewing Balkanizing crap where Bill delivered some pretty strong challenges to identity politics while becoming the most popular US President among blacks until Obama. Forgetting that lesson was a thunderously stupid move on her part.
     
    You can't forget something you never knew.

    She did about the best a Rodham could do, but ultimately she had very little to work with.
    , @neprof
    Not taking sound advice from a smart husband has been a major flaw of the fairer sex for.. well, forever.
  10. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    If Dems go with identity, then there has to be a room for European identity.

    If not, it’s just identity of grievance than deeper meaning.

    According to Prog party book, you are only deserving of identity if you can prove your victim-hood.

    (Of course, victim-hood depends on control of the Narrative. According to Western narrative, white folks were victims of ‘red savages.’ According to PC, white folks killed off tree huggers living in harmony with nature. According to Proggery, blacks are victims of legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. According to race-ists, whites are victims of black thugs who are favored by racist natural evolution to be tougher and more aggressive.)

    But this kind of identity is meaningless. Following its logic, you have to forgo your identity the moment your people are no linger victims. No wonder Jews and blacks cling so much to the past and cook up hysteria(even in form of ‘hate hoax’) since they no longer face oppression in the present, meaning they have no reason for identity politics anymore.

    True identity is bigger than victimhood. Chinese own and run China, and they boost Chinese pride. What’s wrong with that?
    Following PC logic, only Tibetans and Muslims deserve identity in China whereas Han Chinese deserve no identity.

    Most ridiculous.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    Just a thought:

    victim (n.)
    late 15c., "living creature killed and offered as a sacrifice to a deity or supernatural power," from Latin victima "person or animal killed as a sacrifice." Perhaps distantly connected to Old English wig "idol," Gothic weihs "holy," German weihen "consecrate" (compare Weihnachten "Christmas") on notion of "a consecrated animal." Sense of "person who is hurt, tortured, or killed by another" is recorded from 1650s; meaning "person oppressed by some power or situation" is from 1718. Weaker sense of "person taken advantage of" is recorded from 1781.
     
    It is entirely possible that whites intuitively pushed back against precisely the old religious primitivism that our ancestors worked so hard to surpass/evolve beyond.
    , @Jefferson
    "According to Prog party book, you are only deserving of identity if you can prove your victim-hood."

    Victim hood identity politics started out being only about Nonwhites who on average earn less money than Whites. But that stopped being the case when upper middle class Indian Americans who work for NASA are now labeled as being just as equally racially oppressed by systematic White supremacy as the Puerto Rican welfare underclass in The South Bronx.
    , @Frau Katze
    Has to be a European identity? Tell that to NYT. They posted an article to define what "alt-right" included. Were they all neo-Nazis? The article is by Christopher Caldwell and I was expecting better.

    Anyway, NYT flagged this comment as an NYT pick:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/opinion/sunday/what-the-alt-right-really-means.html

    Don't soft-peddle or try to somehow explain the "alt-right." These are the same old neo-nazi racists. There is no "white race." Unlike Black Americans, Native Americans, Americans of various European descent share no common history or culture. My ancestry and culture may be very different than yours in spite of the coincidence or broad brush identity.

    If we learn anything from history and if we care about our country, racist hate-groups and the incitement of hate speech need to be suppressed.
  11. Steve hit it on the head.

    The last paragraph of Edsall’s article is absurd. Millennial dems have been conditioned their entire lives to hate white men for how, uh, hateful they are. They’re going to change their worldview because they lost? Name calling is the only form of ‘debate’ they know, so I’m not holding my breath for enlightened, reasoned discourse to become the norm. The dems have been dehumanizing white men and turning every policy issue into a moral one for far too long for any of that to happen.

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    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    Hillary's campaign devolved into a grievance fest about how the mean powerful White man disrespected women and hurt their feelings. Clinton's campaign ads were awful - featuring women and minorities whining about how Donald was not safe for the precious LGBTPedo coalition and hey stale pale male us powerful women are gonna show you how we deal with a bigot who threatens female bodies of color etc.
  12. @Ed
    If Clinton hadn't embraced BLM chances are she wins WI, which had riots in Milwaukee a few months before.

    If she embraced even a modicum of immigration enforcement maybe she even wins in AZ.

    She just wasn't a good campaigner but in general the Dems have alienated a large swath of the country by stressing the identity politics of marginal groups.

    Black politics are just too outside of the mainstream norms for most non-black Americans. Gays and trannies are just too weird.

    If Clinton hadn’t embraced BLM chances are she wins WI, which had riots in Milwaukee a few months before.

    Yep. Polling showed that the whole kerfuffle over the parents of the Muslim soldier killed in Iraq didn’t have a lot of shelf life against the next round of BLM riots and police killings.

    Hilly’s quick rush over pussygate didn’t last against her McCarthyism and warmongering. She was fading before the FBI news about the email investigation. I guess 53% of white women were more concerned about violent crime and nuclear war than having their pussies touched.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Thirdeye, Don't forget Hillary lectured White Americans on their inability to understand black concerns and that was her comment regarding the killing of five Dallas police officers.
  13. Looking toward the future, Democrats might turn the tables on the Republicans and explicitly demonize Trump and his party as proponents of an exclusionary politics of white male identity.

    Gee, nobody’s ever said anything like that about the Republicans before…

    I’d like that to happen for the good of the country, but my guess is that more likely will be that the anti-straight white gentile maleism that was such a driving force for Democrats over the last few years now has in Donald Trump, the Blond Beast himself, Haven Monahan’s Bad Dad, a physical embodiment of their years of hate whom they conjured up with their rage.

    Yeah, I don’t really think the left’s white-bashing is all that calculated. If they were calculating, they’d have calculated that they were risking a backlash, which might put the brakes on the demographic invasion del sur. Which is precisely what’s brewing. If they were calculating, they’d lay low while the poison takes effect, not stir the victim up while he’s still got time to minimize the damage done.

    No, the left’s white-bashing seems more compulsive than that. I don’t think they can stop themselves.

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    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    Yeah, judging by their reaction and the reaction of the MSM, which is their propaganda arm they are still utterly clueless. I guess the Clinton campaign went full retard in a debate with the Trump campaign at Harvard today, again calling Bannon and Breitbart News wait for it....racist. Yeah, they genuinely believe their own bullshit.
    , @Forbes
    Lack of self-awareness on display these past three weeks underscores left-wing perspective, motivation, agenda, etc. There's little that particularly calculated or nuanced with them--it's all about the feelz.

    It's also all about the ends, never mind the means. Which is why neither hypocrisy nor double standards ever bothers the Left.

    And with Trump trolling the media--and Dems--they won't be able to stop themselves.

    Edsall is trying to explain what the Dems should do next, and he doesn't even know what just happened. And what they have been doing is doubling down--so they'll do that. Cluelessness in spades.
  14. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Thirdeye

    GOP was open to all on the basis of equality and liberty.
     
    You seem to have forgotten about Romney's "47%" comment, which was a big middle finger to less economically privileged Americans that confirmed everyone's worst suspicions about that job exporter. McCain-Palin's rhetoric was also pretty exclusionary. Trump's message towards US citizens was actually more inclusive.

    Hilly took the opposite approach from her husband on identity issues, spewing Balkanizing crap where Bill delivered some pretty strong challenges to identity politics while becoming the most popular US President among blacks until Obama. Forgetting that lesson was a thunderously stupid move on her part.

    “You seem to have forgotten about Romney’s “47%””

    Romney wasn’t saying they weren’t welcome to the GOP. He was saying they would most likely shun the party for economic-ideological reasons. In fact, despite his observation, he did reac out to the working class.

    “McCain-Palin’s rhetoric was also pretty exclusionary.”

    Like how?

    McCain the amnesty pusher?

    Also, the issue isn’t inclusion vs exclusion since US laws forbid discrimination(except against whites).
    The issue is special favors for certain groups.

    The problem with the Democrats is that IF they favor one group, they alienate another.

    If they hail Israel, they offend Muslims.
    If they hail homos, they offend Christian minorities.
    If they hail Muslims, they offend Jews(despite their pretension of Jew-Muslim alliance against whites).
    If they hail black thuggery, they alienate white working class and immigrant groups.
    If they hail massive immigration, they alienate blacks who are waking up to the fact that Diversity is to create a buffer between white elites and blacks.

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  15. @Anon
    If Dems go with identity, then there has to be a room for European identity.

    If not, it's just identity of grievance than deeper meaning.

    According to Prog party book, you are only deserving of identity if you can prove your victim-hood.

    (Of course, victim-hood depends on control of the Narrative. According to Western narrative, white folks were victims of 'red savages.' According to PC, white folks killed off tree huggers living in harmony with nature. According to Proggery, blacks are victims of legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. According to race-ists, whites are victims of black thugs who are favored by racist natural evolution to be tougher and more aggressive.)

    But this kind of identity is meaningless. Following its logic, you have to forgo your identity the moment your people are no linger victims. No wonder Jews and blacks cling so much to the past and cook up hysteria(even in form of 'hate hoax') since they no longer face oppression in the present, meaning they have no reason for identity politics anymore.

    True identity is bigger than victimhood. Chinese own and run China, and they boost Chinese pride. What's wrong with that?
    Following PC logic, only Tibetans and Muslims deserve identity in China whereas Han Chinese deserve no identity.

    Most ridiculous.

    Just a thought:

    victim (n.)
    late 15c., “living creature killed and offered as a sacrifice to a deity or supernatural power,” from Latin victima “person or animal killed as a sacrifice.” Perhaps distantly connected to Old English wig “idol,” Gothic weihs “holy,” German weihen “consecrate” (compare Weihnachten “Christmas”) on notion of “a consecrated animal.” Sense of “person who is hurt, tortured, or killed by another” is recorded from 1650s; meaning “person oppressed by some power or situation” is from 1718. Weaker sense of “person taken advantage of” is recorded from 1781.

    It is entirely possible that whites intuitively pushed back against precisely the old religious primitivism that our ancestors worked so hard to surpass/evolve beyond.

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  16. @Anon
    If Dems go with identity, then there has to be a room for European identity.

    If not, it's just identity of grievance than deeper meaning.

    According to Prog party book, you are only deserving of identity if you can prove your victim-hood.

    (Of course, victim-hood depends on control of the Narrative. According to Western narrative, white folks were victims of 'red savages.' According to PC, white folks killed off tree huggers living in harmony with nature. According to Proggery, blacks are victims of legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. According to race-ists, whites are victims of black thugs who are favored by racist natural evolution to be tougher and more aggressive.)

    But this kind of identity is meaningless. Following its logic, you have to forgo your identity the moment your people are no linger victims. No wonder Jews and blacks cling so much to the past and cook up hysteria(even in form of 'hate hoax') since they no longer face oppression in the present, meaning they have no reason for identity politics anymore.

    True identity is bigger than victimhood. Chinese own and run China, and they boost Chinese pride. What's wrong with that?
    Following PC logic, only Tibetans and Muslims deserve identity in China whereas Han Chinese deserve no identity.

    Most ridiculous.

    “According to Prog party book, you are only deserving of identity if you can prove your victim-hood.”

    Victim hood identity politics started out being only about Nonwhites who on average earn less money than Whites. But that stopped being the case when upper middle class Indian Americans who work for NASA are now labeled as being just as equally racially oppressed by systematic White supremacy as the Puerto Rican welfare underclass in The South Bronx.

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  17. “The tried and true way for a politician to market a coalitional regime amid a cacophony of particularistic demands is to forcefully assert the primacy of the whole. This worked for the Obama insurgency in 2008 because his coalition members were willing to temporarily suspend their immediate demands in favor of a more encompassing victory.”

    No.

    1) Their way has been to unite Steve’s “coalition of the fringes” against evil white men like Haven.

    2) People did not – temporarily suspend their immediate demands in favor of a more encompassing victory – they suspended disbelief in reality in order to show their virtue to those same evil white men.
    Perhaps that feeling of moral superiority was worth the destruction of their country?Perhaps that feeling of moral superiority was their “more encompassing victory.”

    Can they truly not see what they are doing? Do they just not want to admit it? How can we use this?

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  18. @Ed
    If Clinton hadn't embraced BLM chances are she wins WI, which had riots in Milwaukee a few months before.

    If she embraced even a modicum of immigration enforcement maybe she even wins in AZ.

    She just wasn't a good campaigner but in general the Dems have alienated a large swath of the country by stressing the identity politics of marginal groups.

    Black politics are just too outside of the mainstream norms for most non-black Americans. Gays and trannies are just too weird.

    Black politics are just too outside of the mainstream norms

    “If you want a vision of the future, Winston, imagine a frizzy haired mulatto chick screaming into the face of an elderly White professor – forever.”

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Your earlier post is demonstrated once again:

    "They wanted evil white men, now they shall have them."
    , @Kyle McKenna
    Your version is all the more painful due to its credibility..
  19. “Should the Democrats strive for more subtle, sophisticated and ingenious appeals to their party’s cross-section of identities, including a revivification of the idea of the commonweal? I would say emphatically yes.”

    TRANSLATION:
    We will have our professional pollsters do a cross tabs analysis to come up with some even more hated enemies to unite our freak show. We may lose on each particular identity group but we will make it up in volume!

    “Trump’s recent victory notwithstanding, the debate over how to do this needs to move forward on a higher plane, without the name calling, if it is to have any chance of success.”

    Too late folks. As Whiskey says – That bullet has been fired. You can not put your identity hatred politics back in the bottle.

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  20. Jefferson and Svigor have already said what I was going to. If the “literally Hitler!” wasn’t about demonizing Trump and his party as proponents of an exclusionary politics of white male identity, what was? Is there a parallel universe the author of that statement was living in?

    Most people have no idea what a rare luxury it was to have a political system in which ideas played a role and not just tribalism.

    They wanted tribalism, soon they are going to get it good and hard.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    The rare luxury of a politics of ideas can also be defined as the exception that proves the rule of tribalism, which would explain why most people have "no idea."
  21. @kihowi

    How do you establish a commonweal when everyone is looking to have his or her own concerns ratified?
     
    You don't! Welcome to multiculturalism!

    Most people have no idea what a rare luxury it was to have a political system in which ideas played a role and not just tribalism.

    Most people have no idea what a rare luxury it was to have a political system in which ideas played a role and not just tribalism.

    There’s always been an underpinning of tribalism, it’s just that the vast majority of us were from the same tribe.

    If you’d like ideas to be ascendent, you might want to encourage polities so constructed.

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  22. @Thirdeye

    GOP was open to all on the basis of equality and liberty.
     
    You seem to have forgotten about Romney's "47%" comment, which was a big middle finger to less economically privileged Americans that confirmed everyone's worst suspicions about that job exporter. McCain-Palin's rhetoric was also pretty exclusionary. Trump's message towards US citizens was actually more inclusive.

    Hilly took the opposite approach from her husband on identity issues, spewing Balkanizing crap where Bill delivered some pretty strong challenges to identity politics while becoming the most popular US President among blacks until Obama. Forgetting that lesson was a thunderously stupid move on her part.

    Hilly took the opposite approach from her husband on identity issues, spewing Balkanizing crap where Bill delivered some pretty strong challenges to identity politics while becoming the most popular US President among blacks until Obama. Forgetting that lesson was a thunderously stupid move on her part.

    You can’t forget something you never knew.

    She did about the best a Rodham could do, but ultimately she had very little to work with.

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    • Replies: @CK
    She despises her husband. Anything he did she will not do. He won she didn't. She despises him even more now.
    Strong kick ass woman loses to reality, again.
  23. In a democracy, when running for President don’t call half the population a basket of irredeemable “deplorables”. I’d start off with that premise and work back from there.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    It turns out that shaming Trump supporters is not an optimal strategy.
  24. @Ed
    Once Obama won over white liberals he was set. He got record black turnout and support without ever explicitly engaging in black identity politics. In fact his campaign was careful to steer away from any notion that he would be a "black" president. He was to be the president for ALL Americans.

    The Dems are in a bind because the only way to guarantee high rates of black interest to overcome white defections is to nominate black presidential candidates. That turns everyone else off because it becomes too transparent. Maybe they'll go Hispanic in 2020 but they don't quite have the herd mentality of blacks.

    “Maybe they’ll go Hispanic in 2020 but they don’t quite have the herd mentality of blacks.”

    How about Tulsi Gabbard?
    I mean Samoans look Hispanic right?

    She is so popular in Hawaii that the Democrat/Japaneses machine here has begun trying to diminish her appeal:

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/12/01/breaking-news/veterans-group-criticizes-vets-including-u-s-rep-gabbard-joining-pipeline-protest/

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    I've often thought that in a future election we will get a Jack 'n Jill duo: Tulsi and a palatable guy....kind of an interchangeable duo - either one could be VP or P. I like the vet from Montana...and the other one from the Plains. Wouldn't it be just incredible if the next duo are both Vets of Middle Eastern wars?! Think about it: flag burning; no; you will be stripped of your citizenship & deported; you want to continue unnecessary wars for everyone to make money?; no; your fortune will be taken from you! Speak badly of low-class Rust Belt people: you will be sent to a re-education camp in North Dakota! Extraordinary rendition will be a thing for any more jihadis in our midst. haha! Ok, I'm getting loopy.
  25. @Buck Turgidson
    Speaking of Theresa May, the UK is still in the EU, isn't it? What's taking so long?

    The EU may collapse on its own before Britain’s traitorous “elites” allow the country to exit.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    I have heard many Europeans wanting to get their money out of banks and put it into safer accounts somewhere outside of the EU.
  26. @Svigor

    Looking toward the future, Democrats might turn the tables on the Republicans and explicitly demonize Trump and his party as proponents of an exclusionary politics of white male identity.
     
    Gee, nobody's ever said anything like that about the Republicans before...

    I’d like that to happen for the good of the country, but my guess is that more likely will be that the anti-straight white gentile maleism that was such a driving force for Democrats over the last few years now has in Donald Trump, the Blond Beast himself, Haven Monahan’s Bad Dad, a physical embodiment of their years of hate whom they conjured up with their rage.
     
    Yeah, I don't really think the left's white-bashing is all that calculated. If they were calculating, they'd have calculated that they were risking a backlash, which might put the brakes on the demographic invasion del sur. Which is precisely what's brewing. If they were calculating, they'd lay low while the poison takes effect, not stir the victim up while he's still got time to minimize the damage done.

    No, the left's white-bashing seems more compulsive than that. I don't think they can stop themselves.

    Yeah, judging by their reaction and the reaction of the MSM, which is their propaganda arm they are still utterly clueless. I guess the Clinton campaign went full retard in a debate with the Trump campaign at Harvard today, again calling Bannon and Breitbart News wait for it….racist. Yeah, they genuinely believe their own bullshit.

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    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    Like Ceausescu they believe their own selfish lies. But the worm is turning and the Democrat/Cuckservative/Globalist eliminationist anti-White circlejerk is increasingly being ignored by the majority.

    The MSM as mouthpiece of the cosmopolitan cabal is clueless and useless and there is an opportunity for new media (such as Unz) to replace them for good.

    I used to disbelieve the great man theory of history, but living in these times we can see up close how it works: a Titan like Trump seizes his moment and the unleashes the pent up forces of nature when reality is consistently hand-waved away by obsolete rulers who have become smug and complacent.
  27. “If we broke up the big banks, would that end racism/sexism/anti-LGBT discrimination/anti-immigrant feeling?”

    This rhetoric is unusually illogical. Action to solve problem A will not, and is not intended to, solve problems B, C, D, and E.

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    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    Yeah but what a great quote for Sailer to riff on. Pretty well encapsulates much of what our Steve has been railing against for years in one neat little phrase.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "“If we broke up the big banks, would that end racism/sexism/anti-LGBT discrimination/anti-immigrant feeling?”"

    This rhetoric is unusually illogical. Action to solve problem A will not, and is not intended to, solve problems B, C, D, and E."

    That statement did however telegraph Hillary's true intent, which is: I have no intention of solving problem A (because the powers I serve don't want me to), so you will have to content yourself with B, C, D, and E.
  28. @ATX Hipster
    Steve hit it on the head.

    The last paragraph of Edsall's article is absurd. Millennial dems have been conditioned their entire lives to hate white men for how, uh, hateful they are. They're going to change their worldview because they lost? Name calling is the only form of 'debate' they know, so I'm not holding my breath for enlightened, reasoned discourse to become the norm. The dems have been dehumanizing white men and turning every policy issue into a moral one for far too long for any of that to happen.

    Hillary’s campaign devolved into a grievance fest about how the mean powerful White man disrespected women and hurt their feelings. Clinton’s campaign ads were awful – featuring women and minorities whining about how Donald was not safe for the precious LGBTPedo coalition and hey stale pale male us powerful women are gonna show you how we deal with a bigot who threatens female bodies of color etc.

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    • Agree: ATX Hipster
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    That's why I knew Trump was going to win: Hillary made it all about his character while Trump was focusing on the problems in the country and the world. As an educated, multi-lingual, worldly woman, mother, wife, I just rolled my eyes at the stupidity of the DNC and all of the MSM. The smugness they exuded all the time, was met by a mighty Un-PC cudgel to their unsuspecting heads...I loved the utter humiliation.
  29. Speaking of Power of Ghostbusters, Chutzpah & Exonerating Retconstructionism :

    “…Rosenberg’s supporters believe their prospects are dim once President-elect Donald Trump takes office, in part because Roy Cohn, once a lawyer for Trump, was a member of the Justice Department’s prosecution team against the Rosenbergs.

    ‘The ghost of Ethel Rosenberg is going to haunt the White House once Donald Trump takes office,’ said Robert.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3990918/Sons-Ethel-Rosenberg-ask-White-House-exonerate-mother.html

    King Kong ain’t got shit on these ultra-sophisticated dinduists…

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Name one person who give a damn about the Rosenbergs. Not even the Left does anymore.
  30. Trump’s rally tonight in Cincinnati is not to be missed: https://goo.gl/q3NJl5

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    • Replies: @e
    This is a reminder to the MSM--"I'll run over you and go directly to the people."
  31. @Desiderius

    Hilly took the opposite approach from her husband on identity issues, spewing Balkanizing crap where Bill delivered some pretty strong challenges to identity politics while becoming the most popular US President among blacks until Obama. Forgetting that lesson was a thunderously stupid move on her part.
     
    You can't forget something you never knew.

    She did about the best a Rodham could do, but ultimately she had very little to work with.

    She despises her husband. Anything he did she will not do. He won she didn’t. She despises him even more now.
    Strong kick ass woman loses to reality, again.

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    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    Yes, she hates Bill. So she surrounded herself with sycophantic yes womyn like Neera Tanden and Robby Mook - suck ups with chips on their shoulders against straight white maledom. They believed in the fantasy that She was the future because right side of history, inevitable triumph over racism, sexism, cis-hetism etc.

    Reality bites.
  32. @Thirdeye

    GOP was open to all on the basis of equality and liberty.
     
    You seem to have forgotten about Romney's "47%" comment, which was a big middle finger to less economically privileged Americans that confirmed everyone's worst suspicions about that job exporter. McCain-Palin's rhetoric was also pretty exclusionary. Trump's message towards US citizens was actually more inclusive.

    Hilly took the opposite approach from her husband on identity issues, spewing Balkanizing crap where Bill delivered some pretty strong challenges to identity politics while becoming the most popular US President among blacks until Obama. Forgetting that lesson was a thunderously stupid move on her part.

    Not taking sound advice from a smart husband has been a major flaw of the fairer sex for.. well, forever.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Not taking sound advice from a smart husband has been a major flaw of the fairer sex for.. well, forever.
     
    My wife does pretty well - I talked her out of voting for Hillary, for instance.

    Their bark is often worse than their bite.
  33. @Luke Lea
    Trump's rally tonight in Cincinnati is not to be missed: https://goo.gl/q3NJl5

    This is a reminder to the MSM–”I’ll run over you and go directly to the people.”

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  34. I think rather than figuring out a gameplan the democrats with lots of help from the media will just play defence for the next four years. Go back to the traditional class warfare rhetoric.

    Sometime in the near future I expect the media to suddenly discover that we have large numbers of homeless people and an intolerable chasm between rich and poor. We’ll start getting lots of stories on deficits, crime, hunger, etc. any day now.

    If Trump keeps enough of his promises, he’ll be immune to any amount of “not fair” rhetoric. But, lord help us if he breaks any of the big ones. Might even end up with Mrs. Obama. It’s all up to Trump.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "I think rather than figuring out a gameplan the democrats with lots of help from the media will just play defence for the next four years. Go back to the traditional class warfare rhetoric."

    Trump won, in no small part, because he appealed to class warfare rhetoric. It is a question of which class you choose to defend.
    , @Forbes

    Sometime in the near future I expect the media to suddenly discover that we have large numbers of homeless people
     
    Right about January 21, 2017.
  35. @Unladen Swallow
    Yeah, judging by their reaction and the reaction of the MSM, which is their propaganda arm they are still utterly clueless. I guess the Clinton campaign went full retard in a debate with the Trump campaign at Harvard today, again calling Bannon and Breitbart News wait for it....racist. Yeah, they genuinely believe their own bullshit.

    Like Ceausescu they believe their own selfish lies. But the worm is turning and the Democrat/Cuckservative/Globalist eliminationist anti-White circlejerk is increasingly being ignored by the majority.

    The MSM as mouthpiece of the cosmopolitan cabal is clueless and useless and there is an opportunity for new media (such as Unz) to replace them for good.

    I used to disbelieve the great man theory of history, but living in these times we can see up close how it works: a Titan like Trump seizes his moment and the unleashes the pent up forces of nature when reality is consistently hand-waved away by obsolete rulers who have become smug and complacent.

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  36. The problem isn’t just “identity politics”. It is how it is done. As currently practiced by the Democrats it consists not of a coherent plan to make life better for special groups but in accepting and amplifying the often loony ideas that group leaders promote.

    Why would the Dem leadership want identity groups to demand real things? Then they would have to worry about providing them. This way the benefit to the party is that it controls The Ring, from which it derives pixie dust moral power to back down the enemy.

    The problem now though is that if Trump begins to chip chip chip away at the coalition from the bottom up by doing things that benefit rank and file blacks and Hispanics how do the Democrats respond? They will be unable to shift their focus to real things since the power of The Ring will bind them to the fancies of identity group leadership.

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  37. @Thirdeye

    If Clinton hadn’t embraced BLM chances are she wins WI, which had riots in Milwaukee a few months before.
     
    Yep. Polling showed that the whole kerfuffle over the parents of the Muslim soldier killed in Iraq didn't have a lot of shelf life against the next round of BLM riots and police killings.

    Hilly's quick rush over pussygate didn't last against her McCarthyism and warmongering. She was fading before the FBI news about the email investigation. I guess 53% of white women were more concerned about violent crime and nuclear war than having their pussies touched.

    Thirdeye, Don’t forget Hillary lectured White Americans on their inability to understand black concerns and that was her comment regarding the killing of five Dallas police officers.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Yes, the lecturing of Americans about the supposed inability to understand black concerns was so breathtakingly supercilious. You know, I am incredibly relieved that we dodged a yuge bullet....truly. And, that Hillary is gone from our lives. Ding dong, the Clintons have been schlonged!
  38. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    “If we broke up the big banks, would that end racism/sexism/anti-LGBT discrimination/anti-immigrant feeling?”

    This rhetoric is unusually illogical. Action to solve problem A will not, and is not intended to, solve problems B, C, D, and E.

    Yeah but what a great quote for Sailer to riff on. Pretty well encapsulates much of what our Steve has been railing against for years in one neat little phrase.

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  39. “But it is also legitimate to ask whether the age of identity politics is coming to an end.”

    I don’t think that identity politics is coming to an end. It will continue, however “white” will now be one of the identities. And given that whites are (still) a majority – that will have important consequences.

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  40. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    “If we broke up the big banks, would that end racism/sexism/anti-LGBT discrimination/anti-immigrant feeling?”

    This rhetoric is unusually illogical. Action to solve problem A will not, and is not intended to, solve problems B, C, D, and E.

    ““If we broke up the big banks, would that end racism/sexism/anti-LGBT discrimination/anti-immigrant feeling?””

    This rhetoric is unusually illogical. Action to solve problem A will not, and is not intended to, solve problems B, C, D, and E.”

    That statement did however telegraph Hillary’s true intent, which is: I have no intention of solving problem A (because the powers I serve don’t want me to), so you will have to content yourself with B, C, D, and E.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Exactly. After she said that, I knew she was even a bigger monster/sociopath.
    , @NOTA
    Hillary's quote is trying to divert young (mostly Sanders) voters from actual policy issues (breaking up big banks) to SJW/social morality issues. It is the mirror image of Republican politicians screwing over the working and middle classes, but then diverting them to issues like abortion, gay marriage, bathroom access laws, etc.
  41. @Sandy Berger's Socks
    I think rather than figuring out a gameplan the democrats with lots of help from the media will just play defence for the next four years. Go back to the traditional class warfare rhetoric.

    Sometime in the near future I expect the media to suddenly discover that we have large numbers of homeless people and an intolerable chasm between rich and poor. We'll start getting lots of stories on deficits, crime, hunger, etc. any day now.

    If Trump keeps enough of his promises, he'll be immune to any amount of "not fair" rhetoric. But, lord help us if he breaks any of the big ones. Might even end up with Mrs. Obama. It's all up to Trump.

    “I think rather than figuring out a gameplan the democrats with lots of help from the media will just play defence for the next four years. Go back to the traditional class warfare rhetoric.”

    Trump won, in no small part, because he appealed to class warfare rhetoric. It is a question of which class you choose to defend.

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  42. @Ed
    If Clinton hadn't embraced BLM chances are she wins WI, which had riots in Milwaukee a few months before.

    If she embraced even a modicum of immigration enforcement maybe she even wins in AZ.

    She just wasn't a good campaigner but in general the Dems have alienated a large swath of the country by stressing the identity politics of marginal groups.

    Black politics are just too outside of the mainstream norms for most non-black Americans. Gays and trannies are just too weird.

    The riots in Charlotte certainly helped Trump take NC.

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    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I donno about that. I am visiting in Raleigh and asked several people about this. They said nobody in Raleigh really gives a damn about what happens in Charlotte. Sort of like the DC Virginia suburbs and Richmond. One friend said that every guy you see with a shirt not tucked in is packing, including blacks.
    , @Lagertha
    well, and today, it was verified that there was indeed, a gun...the victim was packing...so no charges against the cop.
  43. …my guess is that more likely will be that the anti-straight white gentile maleism that was such a driving force for Democrats over the last few years now has in Donald Trump, the Blond Beast himself, Haven Monahan’s Bad Dad, a physical embodiment of their years of hate whom they conjured up with their rage.

    I’ve been making the case recently to anyone who will listen not to expect any major change in rhetoric or approach from the Democrat party or the left in general, because it’s become less about electoral victory than about allowing the Great and the Good to believe that they are Great and Good. They’re much like Vox Day’s “Gamma males”: the “secret kings” who can convince themselves that defeat is, in fact, a nobler sort of victory only they are privileged to see.

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    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    Now that their long imagined victimhood and persecution has been partially manifested in electoral defeat they can play at being rebels against the man. Trump is the perfect foil and may know them better than they know themselves. The man knows how to stoke their grievances to the point of apoplexy and may make them secretly embrace their inner loser despite their protestations of wanting to defeat him.
  44. @bored identity
    Speaking of Power of Ghostbusters, Chutzpah & Exonerating Retconstructionism :



    "...Rosenberg's supporters believe their prospects are dim once President-elect Donald Trump takes office, in part because Roy Cohn, once a lawyer for Trump, was a member of the Justice Department's prosecution team against the Rosenbergs.

    'The ghost of Ethel Rosenberg is going to haunt the White House once Donald Trump takes office,' said Robert."


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3990918/Sons-Ethel-Rosenberg-ask-White-House-exonerate-mother.html

     

    King Kong ain't got shit on these ultra-sophisticated dinduists...

    Name one person who give a damn about the Rosenbergs. Not even the Left does anymore.

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    Robert and Michael Meeropol....that's two (2)


    But, you're missing the point anyway, since five decades waisted during the Cold War is too much for your attention span.
  45. @Bugg
    The riots in Charlotte certainly helped Trump take NC.

    I donno about that. I am visiting in Raleigh and asked several people about this. They said nobody in Raleigh really gives a damn about what happens in Charlotte. Sort of like the DC Virginia suburbs and Richmond. One friend said that every guy you see with a shirt not tucked in is packing, including blacks.

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  46. @Jim Don Bob
    Name one person who give a damn about the Rosenbergs. Not even the Left does anymore.

    Robert and Michael Meeropol….that’s two (2)

    But, you’re missing the point anyway, since five decades waisted during the Cold War is too much for your attention span.

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  47. @Connecticut Famer
    Edsall's take on the 2008 election doesn't cut it. Obama's success was due to the combination of being on the one hand every liberal's wet dream--an Ivy-educated "articulate black man" , and on the other hand, the farce that was the McCain-Palin ticket.

    Obama won by surfing the zeitgeist. Ditto for Trump.

    Don’t forget “clean.” At that point, I thought Biden would be attacked for being a “badwhite,” but that comment was overlooked by the sycophants of MSM and liberals in general.

    Palin was a bad choice…Hillary was a bad choice. I really have to laugh when I think about how pretentious the DNC & GOP really are….how they think we won’t notice if some awful candidate is foisted upon us.

    I am still enjoying the utter Epic Fail that the pundits and loudmouths of the media/DNC have had to swallow. They, the “Bad They” have had to realize that “oh shit, I didn’t really think those people , who I consider low class, would actually vote for Trump.”

    This country, for better or worse, is divided by socioeconomic class first and foremost…not by race. Everyone is fine with “wealthy and articulate” blacks, latinos, Muslims, etc. I mean, that’s the way it has been forever in Europe. Everything comes down to money and sex.

    I agree that Trump “arrived” because everyone, and I mean many, were sick of the PC culture fanned for 15-20 years; and, the hatred of WASPS; and the descendants of the Founding Fathers.

    I said this 14 months ago: condescending to the American People by institutions, pundits, elected government people, will backfire. And, duh, major duh, dissing the flag/anthem and burning it was so counterproductive. Every time these awful, the truly deplorable people burnt flags, dissed veterans, beat-up/threw stuff at Trump rally people, was like, Yes! that’s another 10,000 people in Ohio that will stick it to these undeserving-of-our vote.

    As an immigrant, I really hated anyone, and I mean anyone, who supported Hillary. I still do. And, I hate the flag burners…and the stupid-assed protesters…but, I guess they went home to mommy and daddy for Thanksgiving before returning back to their 60K/year university for finals in their, no doubt, lame major in political science or some other soft major. Wait until they are waiting tables/selling stuff at CVS and experiencing “class issues.”

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  48. @CK
    She despises her husband. Anything he did she will not do. He won she didn't. She despises him even more now.
    Strong kick ass woman loses to reality, again.

    Yes, she hates Bill. So she surrounded herself with sycophantic yes womyn like Neera Tanden and Robby Mook – suck ups with chips on their shoulders against straight white maledom. They believed in the fantasy that She was the future because right side of history, inevitable triumph over racism, sexism, cis-hetism etc.

    Reality bites.

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  49. @Bugg
    The riots in Charlotte certainly helped Trump take NC.

    well, and today, it was verified that there was indeed, a gun…the victim was packing…so no charges against the cop.

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  50. @Mr. Anon
    "“If we broke up the big banks, would that end racism/sexism/anti-LGBT discrimination/anti-immigrant feeling?”"

    This rhetoric is unusually illogical. Action to solve problem A will not, and is not intended to, solve problems B, C, D, and E."

    That statement did however telegraph Hillary's true intent, which is: I have no intention of solving problem A (because the powers I serve don't want me to), so you will have to content yourself with B, C, D, and E.

    Exactly. After she said that, I knew she was even a bigger monster/sociopath.

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  51. @neprof
    Not taking sound advice from a smart husband has been a major flaw of the fairer sex for.. well, forever.

    Not taking sound advice from a smart husband has been a major flaw of the fairer sex for.. well, forever.

    My wife does pretty well – I talked her out of voting for Hillary, for instance.

    Their bark is often worse than their bite.

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    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    I assume you have treated your wife better than Bill did Hill. Hillary had to lie to the nation on 60 minutes to get him elected, then pretend the impeachment fiasco was a right wing conspiracy while the country learned gross details about cigars and interns stained by bodily fluids. The marriage seems like a sham. I mean, do the Clintons even share a house (let alone a bedroom, or bed) most days?
    , @middle aged vet
    Desiderius - you have been on a roll lately. Well God bless you, and your wife.
  52. @Buffalo Joe
    Thirdeye, Don't forget Hillary lectured White Americans on their inability to understand black concerns and that was her comment regarding the killing of five Dallas police officers.

    Yes, the lecturing of Americans about the supposed inability to understand black concerns was so breathtakingly supercilious. You know, I am incredibly relieved that we dodged a yuge bullet….truly. And, that Hillary is gone from our lives. Ding dong, the Clintons have been schlonged!

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  53. @Thomas

    ...my guess is that more likely will be that the anti-straight white gentile maleism that was such a driving force for Democrats over the last few years now has in Donald Trump, the Blond Beast himself, Haven Monahan’s Bad Dad, a physical embodiment of their years of hate whom they conjured up with their rage.
     
    I've been making the case recently to anyone who will listen not to expect any major change in rhetoric or approach from the Democrat party or the left in general, because it's become less about electoral victory than about allowing the Great and the Good to believe that they are Great and Good. They're much like Vox Day's "Gamma males": the "secret kings" who can convince themselves that defeat is, in fact, a nobler sort of victory only they are privileged to see.

    Now that their long imagined victimhood and persecution has been partially manifested in electoral defeat they can play at being rebels against the man. Trump is the perfect foil and may know them better than they know themselves. The man knows how to stoke their grievances to the point of apoplexy and may make them secretly embrace their inner loser despite their protestations of wanting to defeat him.

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  54. @FX Enderby
    Hillary's campaign devolved into a grievance fest about how the mean powerful White man disrespected women and hurt their feelings. Clinton's campaign ads were awful - featuring women and minorities whining about how Donald was not safe for the precious LGBTPedo coalition and hey stale pale male us powerful women are gonna show you how we deal with a bigot who threatens female bodies of color etc.

    That’s why I knew Trump was going to win: Hillary made it all about his character while Trump was focusing on the problems in the country and the world. As an educated, multi-lingual, worldly woman, mother, wife, I just rolled my eyes at the stupidity of the DNC and all of the MSM. The smugness they exuded all the time, was met by a mighty Un-PC cudgel to their unsuspecting heads…I loved the utter humiliation.

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    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    As an educated, multi-lingual, worldly woman, mother, wife,

    Is that you, Melania?
  55. @FX Enderby
    The EU may collapse on its own before Britain's traitorous "elites" allow the country to exit.

    I have heard many Europeans wanting to get their money out of banks and put it into safer accounts somewhere outside of the EU.

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  56. @Desiderius

    Not taking sound advice from a smart husband has been a major flaw of the fairer sex for.. well, forever.
     
    My wife does pretty well - I talked her out of voting for Hillary, for instance.

    Their bark is often worse than their bite.

    I assume you have treated your wife better than Bill did Hill. Hillary had to lie to the nation on 60 minutes to get him elected, then pretend the impeachment fiasco was a right wing conspiracy while the country learned gross details about cigars and interns stained by bodily fluids. The marriage seems like a sham. I mean, do the Clintons even share a house (let alone a bedroom, or bed) most days?

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Guys, guys.... as a sexually experienced woman, I believe that Bill & Hillary lived separate lives for many decades (there could be sex, of course) but, they were old by now, today...
  57. @Langley
    "Maybe they’ll go Hispanic in 2020 but they don’t quite have the herd mentality of blacks."

    How about Tulsi Gabbard?
    I mean Samoans look Hispanic right?

    She is so popular in Hawaii that the Democrat/Japaneses machine here has begun trying to diminish her appeal:

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/12/01/breaking-news/veterans-group-criticizes-vets-including-u-s-rep-gabbard-joining-pipeline-protest/

    I’ve often thought that in a future election we will get a Jack ‘n Jill duo: Tulsi and a palatable guy….kind of an interchangeable duo – either one could be VP or P. I like the vet from Montana…and the other one from the Plains. Wouldn’t it be just incredible if the next duo are both Vets of Middle Eastern wars?! Think about it: flag burning; no; you will be stripped of your citizenship & deported; you want to continue unnecessary wars for everyone to make money?; no; your fortune will be taken from you! Speak badly of low-class Rust Belt people: you will be sent to a re-education camp in North Dakota! Extraordinary rendition will be a thing for any more jihadis in our midst. haha! Ok, I’m getting loopy.

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  58. OT on Nature vs. Nurture:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3992180/Teenager-adopted-Russia-killed-American-Airlines-pilot-father-mother-home-stuffing-mom-TRASH-12-hour-SWAT-standoff.html

    And then we wait in 3, 2, 1.. to learn from Jamie Kirchik how Putin just started unloading on us the infamous Okhrphans ( Okhrana-cloned orphans ) from the movie Telefon:

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  59. @Desiderius

    Not taking sound advice from a smart husband has been a major flaw of the fairer sex for.. well, forever.
     
    My wife does pretty well - I talked her out of voting for Hillary, for instance.

    Their bark is often worse than their bite.

    Desiderius – you have been on a roll lately. Well God bless you, and your wife.

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    Well God bless you, and your wife.
     
    And you as well.

    "I am longing to share with you some spiritual gift to strengthen you— or rather so that we may be mutually encouraged by each other’s faith."

    - Romans 1:11
  60. @Lagertha
    That's why I knew Trump was going to win: Hillary made it all about his character while Trump was focusing on the problems in the country and the world. As an educated, multi-lingual, worldly woman, mother, wife, I just rolled my eyes at the stupidity of the DNC and all of the MSM. The smugness they exuded all the time, was met by a mighty Un-PC cudgel to their unsuspecting heads...I loved the utter humiliation.

    As an educated, multi-lingual, worldly woman, mother, wife,

    Is that you, Melania?

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    haha! Melania is a true beauty. I am nowhere near as beautiful as she is.
  61. @bored identity
    OT on Nature vs. Nurture:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3992180/Teenager-adopted-Russia-killed-American-Airlines-pilot-father-mother-home-stuffing-mom-TRASH-12-hour-SWAT-standoff.html

    And then we wait in 3, 2, 1.. to learn from Jamie Kirchik how Putin just started unloading on us the infamous Okhrphans ( Okhrana-cloned orphans ) from the movie Telefon:

    Telefon:

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  62. ACDC addressed this conundrum with the clearly crypto references to the nascent Internet in their “Who Made Who”video.

    Seriously, everything is all there. No need for further comment. ACDC was basically Peter Thiel before he sought global control.

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    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    "Who Made Who" was written for Stephen King's Maximum Overdrive, based on his short story Trucks. Not sure if they were writing with Internet in mind.
    , @BucephalusXYZ
    I learn so much here.
  63. @middle aged vet
    Desiderius - you have been on a roll lately. Well God bless you, and your wife.

    Well God bless you, and your wife.

    And you as well.

    “I am longing to share with you some spiritual gift to strengthen you— or rather so that we may be mutually encouraged by each other’s faith.”

    - Romans 1:11

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  64. @BenKenobi

    Black politics are just too outside of the mainstream norms
     
    "If you want a vision of the future, Winston, imagine a frizzy haired mulatto chick screaming into the face of an elderly White professor - forever."

    Your earlier post is demonstrated once again:

    “They wanted evil white men, now they shall have them.”

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  65. @BenKenobi

    Black politics are just too outside of the mainstream norms
     
    "If you want a vision of the future, Winston, imagine a frizzy haired mulatto chick screaming into the face of an elderly White professor - forever."

    Your version is all the more painful due to its credibility..

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  66. It was almost unbelievable when HRC lectured whites after the Dallas murders. I think she did it from misguided fealty to Obama. And here’s the thing: He loathes her, especially now, since she lost. She could have gone Mussolini on BLM, won the election… and earned the respect of Obama, but as DJT said, she lacks judgement.

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  67. @Connecticut Famer
    Edsall's take on the 2008 election doesn't cut it. Obama's success was due to the combination of being on the one hand every liberal's wet dream--an Ivy-educated "articulate black man" , and on the other hand, the farce that was the McCain-Palin ticket.

    Obama won by surfing the zeitgeist. Ditto for Trump.

    Obama also won because we hadn’t had a black president before and everyone wanted to vote for him and squeal about it to friends. Then in 2012 people weren’t as excited because we’d already had our first black president, so Obama became the first re-elected president in history to garner fewer votes on re-election than election (it’s why his 2012 victory was so frustrating, and spurned Trump; Romney didn’t attack and win a winnable race).

    Palin was fine; as Trump has proved, even if the media wrongly portrays you as gaffe-tastic, it won’t hurt you if you ignore them and plow along. The major problem was the economy collapsing right before the election, which was blamed on Bush, which implicated McCain, running as Bush’s third term.

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  68. Also, at what point will the Left admit that Hillary Clinton was

    1) a really terrible campaigner
    2) a really terrible candidate; and
    3) a really terrible person?

    I’m actually surprised #3 hasn’t happened yet, given that the Clinton Crime Family is now out of power. I pictured rats-from-a-sinking-ship type attacks right away.

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    • Replies: @melendwyr
    Rats have a strong sense of self-preservation. Also, they're not responsible in any way for the ship. The media believes itself to be the captain, directing and controlling, bearing responsibility. If the Clinton ship is going down, they're going down with it.
  69. @Ed
    If Clinton hadn't embraced BLM chances are she wins WI, which had riots in Milwaukee a few months before.

    If she embraced even a modicum of immigration enforcement maybe she even wins in AZ.

    She just wasn't a good campaigner but in general the Dems have alienated a large swath of the country by stressing the identity politics of marginal groups.

    Black politics are just too outside of the mainstream norms for most non-black Americans. Gays and trannies are just too weird.

    Didn’t black turnout drop substantially for Hillary relative to Obama? It’s not clear the appeals to BLM even helped her.

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  70. @Mr. Anon
    "“If we broke up the big banks, would that end racism/sexism/anti-LGBT discrimination/anti-immigrant feeling?”"

    This rhetoric is unusually illogical. Action to solve problem A will not, and is not intended to, solve problems B, C, D, and E."

    That statement did however telegraph Hillary's true intent, which is: I have no intention of solving problem A (because the powers I serve don't want me to), so you will have to content yourself with B, C, D, and E.

    Hillary’s quote is trying to divert young (mostly Sanders) voters from actual policy issues (breaking up big banks) to SJW/social morality issues. It is the mirror image of Republican politicians screwing over the working and middle classes, but then diverting them to issues like abortion, gay marriage, bathroom access laws, etc.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    The social issues are real issues, and actually are real important ones. Marriage, abortion, bathroom access laws - those are important issues. Conservatives may not be able to win on them in our presently degenerate society, but they are important.
  71. The counter-revolution of Emonahanal Havenstein has triumphed.

    “Emonahanal Havenstein” sounds like the way my parents, and all members of their generation in the area where I grew up, would actually try to pronounce “Haven Monahan.” Any somewhat ethnic name like “John Travolta” was impossible for them to pronounce correctly. It would come out as “John Suboco” or “John Trubucco.” As kids, were would frustratingly try to get them to pronounce the name correctly, and not sound like Archie Bunker, to no avail. Just trying to get anyone in the area born before 1935 to pronounce “Yoko Ono” correctly was futile.

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  72. Looking toward the future, Democrats might turn the tables on the Republicans and explicitly demonize Trump and his party as proponents of an exclusionary politics of white male identity.

    What a novel idea! Why didn’t anyone else think of that before? If only the Democrats had clued in on that, they would have won!

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  73. @utu
    “Not everything is about an economic theory, right?” - Wrong. If Democrats had socio-economic message as they used to have before they sold out to the neoliberalism under Bill Clinton and replaced the economic justice issues with race and gender justice issues nobody would have written "What's the Matter with Kansas?" book and wondered why Americans were voting against their economic interests. When Bill Clinton and other Democrats started claiming that they were fiscally conservative the democratic party ceased to represent economic interests of American working class and middle class. Under Democrats we had no jobs but we could be proud of having unisex bathrooms and gays and lesbians in military.

    As the gay mayor of Berlin said, “We’re poor but at least we’re sexy!”
    Which is all the Left has to offer now.
    As E Michael Jones writes: America, like Berlin, is just a big gay disco.
    No jobs but sexual license…

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  74. @whorefinder
    Also, at what point will the Left admit that Hillary Clinton was

    1) a really terrible campaigner
    2) a really terrible candidate; and
    3) a really terrible person?

    I'm actually surprised #3 hasn't happened yet, given that the Clinton Crime Family is now out of power. I pictured rats-from-a-sinking-ship type attacks right away.

    Rats have a strong sense of self-preservation. Also, they’re not responsible in any way for the ship. The media believes itself to be the captain, directing and controlling, bearing responsibility. If the Clinton ship is going down, they’re going down with it.

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  75. @Buck Turgidson
    Speaking of Theresa May, the UK is still in the EU, isn't it? What's taking so long?

    The UK Supreme Court, on appeal, will be weighing in, possibly before Christmas. The question before it is whether Parliament must vote, or whether the referendum was sufficient.

    The UK Supreme Court is a modern invention (tony Blair era), and by vote Parliament (highest authority in UK) can overrule the SC.

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  76. @Svigor

    Looking toward the future, Democrats might turn the tables on the Republicans and explicitly demonize Trump and his party as proponents of an exclusionary politics of white male identity.
     
    Gee, nobody's ever said anything like that about the Republicans before...

    I’d like that to happen for the good of the country, but my guess is that more likely will be that the anti-straight white gentile maleism that was such a driving force for Democrats over the last few years now has in Donald Trump, the Blond Beast himself, Haven Monahan’s Bad Dad, a physical embodiment of their years of hate whom they conjured up with their rage.
     
    Yeah, I don't really think the left's white-bashing is all that calculated. If they were calculating, they'd have calculated that they were risking a backlash, which might put the brakes on the demographic invasion del sur. Which is precisely what's brewing. If they were calculating, they'd lay low while the poison takes effect, not stir the victim up while he's still got time to minimize the damage done.

    No, the left's white-bashing seems more compulsive than that. I don't think they can stop themselves.

    Lack of self-awareness on display these past three weeks underscores left-wing perspective, motivation, agenda, etc. There’s little that particularly calculated or nuanced with them–it’s all about the feelz.

    It’s also all about the ends, never mind the means. Which is why neither hypocrisy nor double standards ever bothers the Left.

    And with Trump trolling the media–and Dems–they won’t be able to stop themselves.

    Edsall is trying to explain what the Dems should do next, and he doesn’t even know what just happened. And what they have been doing is doubling down–so they’ll do that. Cluelessness in spades.

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  77. @Anonym
    Jefferson and Svigor have already said what I was going to. If the "literally Hitler!" wasn't about demonizing Trump and his party as proponents of an exclusionary politics of white male identity, what was? Is there a parallel universe the author of that statement was living in?

    Most people have no idea what a rare luxury it was to have a political system in which ideas played a role and not just tribalism.

    They wanted tribalism, soon they are going to get it good and hard.

    The rare luxury of a politics of ideas can also be defined as the exception that proves the rule of tribalism, which would explain why most people have “no idea.”

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    The rare luxury of a politics of ideas can also be defined as the exception that proves the rule of tribalism, which would explain why most people have “no idea.”

    Most people, particularly in a country the size of the USA, really have no idea what prevails outside. It is not real to them. This lack of experience is a lot of the cause of this. There is also a pseudo-religious aspect to leftism, in that they hold their country to different standards than the rest of the world. So even if they are aware that gays are harassed in Cuba, or thrown off buildings by Muslims, they hold these foreign people to a different standard - not like the badwhites who really should "know better".

    Internal politics of ideas I think is a relatively common thing in homogeneous European societies. Tribalism is not far away though. You are right in that the politics of ideas is the exception that proves the rule.
  78. @Trelane
    In a democracy, when running for President don't call half the population a basket of irredeemable "deplorables". I'd start off with that premise and work back from there.

    It turns out that shaming Trump supporters is not an optimal strategy.

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  79. @Sandy Berger's Socks
    I think rather than figuring out a gameplan the democrats with lots of help from the media will just play defence for the next four years. Go back to the traditional class warfare rhetoric.

    Sometime in the near future I expect the media to suddenly discover that we have large numbers of homeless people and an intolerable chasm between rich and poor. We'll start getting lots of stories on deficits, crime, hunger, etc. any day now.

    If Trump keeps enough of his promises, he'll be immune to any amount of "not fair" rhetoric. But, lord help us if he breaks any of the big ones. Might even end up with Mrs. Obama. It's all up to Trump.

    Sometime in the near future I expect the media to suddenly discover that we have large numbers of homeless people

    Right about January 21, 2017.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "Sometime in the near future I expect the media to suddenly discover that we have large numbers of homeless people

    Right about January 21, 2017."

    To be exact, at 12:01 p.m. EST, January 20, 2017
  80. @Anon
    If Dems go with identity, then there has to be a room for European identity.

    If not, it's just identity of grievance than deeper meaning.

    According to Prog party book, you are only deserving of identity if you can prove your victim-hood.

    (Of course, victim-hood depends on control of the Narrative. According to Western narrative, white folks were victims of 'red savages.' According to PC, white folks killed off tree huggers living in harmony with nature. According to Proggery, blacks are victims of legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. According to race-ists, whites are victims of black thugs who are favored by racist natural evolution to be tougher and more aggressive.)

    But this kind of identity is meaningless. Following its logic, you have to forgo your identity the moment your people are no linger victims. No wonder Jews and blacks cling so much to the past and cook up hysteria(even in form of 'hate hoax') since they no longer face oppression in the present, meaning they have no reason for identity politics anymore.

    True identity is bigger than victimhood. Chinese own and run China, and they boost Chinese pride. What's wrong with that?
    Following PC logic, only Tibetans and Muslims deserve identity in China whereas Han Chinese deserve no identity.

    Most ridiculous.

    Has to be a European identity? Tell that to NYT. They posted an article to define what “alt-right” included. Were they all neo-Nazis? The article is by Christopher Caldwell and I was expecting better.

    Anyway, NYT flagged this comment as an NYT pick:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/opinion/sunday/what-the-alt-right-really-means.html

    Don’t soft-peddle or try to somehow explain the “alt-right.” These are the same old neo-nazi racists. There is no “white race.” Unlike Black Americans, Native Americans, Americans of various European descent share no common history or culture. My ancestry and culture may be very different than yours in spite of the coincidence or broad brush identity.

    If we learn anything from history and if we care about our country, racist hate-groups and the incitement of hate speech need to be suppressed.

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    Anyway, NYT flagged this comment as an NYT pick:

    That's why they are the failing NYT.
  81. It would be simplistic to make identity politics the sole culprit of this year’s Democratic defeat, especially in light of Clinton’s 2.4 million popular vote margin.

    The ‘culprit’ was established by exit polling. The factual number of votes doesn’t matter, but he had to throw it in somewhere in the article. It’s part of the Narrative.

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  82. @Forbes
    The rare luxury of a politics of ideas can also be defined as the exception that proves the rule of tribalism, which would explain why most people have "no idea."

    The rare luxury of a politics of ideas can also be defined as the exception that proves the rule of tribalism, which would explain why most people have “no idea.”

    Most people, particularly in a country the size of the USA, really have no idea what prevails outside. It is not real to them. This lack of experience is a lot of the cause of this. There is also a pseudo-religious aspect to leftism, in that they hold their country to different standards than the rest of the world. So even if they are aware that gays are harassed in Cuba, or thrown off buildings by Muslims, they hold these foreign people to a different standard – not like the badwhites who really should “know better”.

    Internal politics of ideas I think is a relatively common thing in homogeneous European societies. Tribalism is not far away though. You are right in that the politics of ideas is the exception that proves the rule.

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  83. @Frau Katze
    Has to be a European identity? Tell that to NYT. They posted an article to define what "alt-right" included. Were they all neo-Nazis? The article is by Christopher Caldwell and I was expecting better.

    Anyway, NYT flagged this comment as an NYT pick:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/opinion/sunday/what-the-alt-right-really-means.html

    Don't soft-peddle or try to somehow explain the "alt-right." These are the same old neo-nazi racists. There is no "white race." Unlike Black Americans, Native Americans, Americans of various European descent share no common history or culture. My ancestry and culture may be very different than yours in spite of the coincidence or broad brush identity.

    If we learn anything from history and if we care about our country, racist hate-groups and the incitement of hate speech need to be suppressed.

    Anyway, NYT flagged this comment as an NYT pick:

    That’s why they are the failing NYT.

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  84. Don’t soft-peddle or try to somehow explain the “alt-right.” These are the same old neo-nazi racists. There is no “white race.” Unlike Black Americans, Native Americans, Americans of various European descent share no common history or culture. My ancestry and culture may be very different than yours in spite of the coincidence or broad brush identity.

    If we learn anything from history and if we care about our country, racist hate-groups and the incitement of hate speech need to be suppressed.

    That might have sounded a lot less stupid and ironic if he hadn’t mentioned Amerinds (it’s even more an unforced error, when you consider how unimportant Amerinds are demographically). A lot of Americans know enough American history to know how stupid it sounds to say, “Amerinds share a common history and culture, but European-Americans do not.” It doesn’t help that Zionists say the opposite about Palestinians and Jews, while the left sucks up to the Zionists.

    To Americans, Native Americans are one of the more obvious academic social constructs.

    So even if they are aware that gays are harassed in Cuba, or thrown off buildings by Muslims, they hold these foreign people to a different standard – not like the badwhites who really should “know better”.

    Yes, this is so consistent, it can’t be chalked up to error. I’ve usually referred to this as “leftist white supremacy”; one of the main tenets is that core America is consistently held to much higher standards. “Pathological white tribal identity” is another way to describe it. White Americans know perfectly well to hold non-whites (etc) to lower standards, even if they simultaneously know not to (or actually can’t) articulate the rules.

    Another aspect of this leftist white supremacy occurs; “Europeans are much too powerful and important to be lumped into this leftist social construct business, but it’s just right for dummies like blacks, Amerinds, etc.” Also easily viewed as the ill-intended flattery of a dire enemy.

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  85. @FX Enderby
    As an educated, multi-lingual, worldly woman, mother, wife,

    Is that you, Melania?

    haha! Melania is a true beauty. I am nowhere near as beautiful as she is.

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  86. @FX Enderby
    I assume you have treated your wife better than Bill did Hill. Hillary had to lie to the nation on 60 minutes to get him elected, then pretend the impeachment fiasco was a right wing conspiracy while the country learned gross details about cigars and interns stained by bodily fluids. The marriage seems like a sham. I mean, do the Clintons even share a house (let alone a bedroom, or bed) most days?

    Guys, guys…. as a sexually experienced woman, I believe that Bill & Hillary lived separate lives for many decades (there could be sex, of course) but, they were old by now, today…

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  87. @Clifford Brown
    ACDC addressed this conundrum with the clearly crypto references to the nascent Internet in their "Who Made Who"video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiZHNw1MtzI

    Seriously, everything is all there. No need for further comment. ACDC was basically Peter Thiel before he sought global control.

    “Who Made Who” was written for Stephen King’s Maximum Overdrive, based on his short story Trucks. Not sure if they were writing with Internet in mind.

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  88. @Clifford Brown
    ACDC addressed this conundrum with the clearly crypto references to the nascent Internet in their "Who Made Who"video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiZHNw1MtzI

    Seriously, everything is all there. No need for further comment. ACDC was basically Peter Thiel before he sought global control.

    I learn so much here.

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  89. @NOTA
    Hillary's quote is trying to divert young (mostly Sanders) voters from actual policy issues (breaking up big banks) to SJW/social morality issues. It is the mirror image of Republican politicians screwing over the working and middle classes, but then diverting them to issues like abortion, gay marriage, bathroom access laws, etc.

    The social issues are real issues, and actually are real important ones. Marriage, abortion, bathroom access laws – those are important issues. Conservatives may not be able to win on them in our presently degenerate society, but they are important.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    The social issues are real issues, and actually are real important ones.
     
    Both are important, nor are they independent.
  90. @Forbes

    Sometime in the near future I expect the media to suddenly discover that we have large numbers of homeless people
     
    Right about January 21, 2017.

    “Sometime in the near future I expect the media to suddenly discover that we have large numbers of homeless people

    Right about January 21, 2017.”

    To be exact, at 12:01 p.m. EST, January 20, 2017

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  91. @Mr. Anon
    The social issues are real issues, and actually are real important ones. Marriage, abortion, bathroom access laws - those are important issues. Conservatives may not be able to win on them in our presently degenerate society, but they are important.

    The social issues are real issues, and actually are real important ones.

    Both are important, nor are they independent.

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  92. […] of Ghostbusters, it seems that the original film is the best clue to what happened, as Steve Sailer notes […]

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