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Trump’s alt-right speech in Poland redefined the West in nativist terms, eschewing democratic idealism in favor of “blood and soil” nationalism.

BY JEET HEER

July 6, 2017

In his address Thursday in Warsaw, Donald Trump returned to the stark, polarizing rhetoric of his campaign speeches and inaugural address, portraying America and its culturally similar allies as under siege by subversive forces both within and without. … “The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive,” he said. “Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders?” …

Later, he evoked Poland’s wartime resistance to Nazism and Soviet communism. …

Such rhetoric is meant to conjure blood-and-soil nationalism. Here, Trump is defining the West not based on ideals like democracy and liberty, but atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship.

You know, when you stop and think about it, in his lack of deference toward Poland’s “territory” — lines on a map that were supposedly justified by Poles’ atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship — the man who was really kind of ahead of his time was Hitler.

I mean, from the perspective of the Current Year, who were the real Nazis on September 1, 1939? Those who wanted Europe united under the leadership of a forward-thinking German Chancellor? Or those bigoted xenophobic Borats who wanted to be left alone in their own country?

Sure, he did some bad things, but, unlike Trump, at least Hitler didn’t respect Polish borders.

I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an anti-borders ethos.

 
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  1. Later, he evoked Poland’s wartime resistance to Nazism and Soviet communism. …

    Such rhetoric is meant to conjure blood-and-soil nationalism. Here, Trump is defining the West not based on ideals like democracy and liberty, but atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship.

    MMM, somebody really needs to call out The National Council of La Raza for their atavistic loyalty to the concept of “shared kinship”……And don’t get me started on Black Americans with their superstitious belief in the “one-drop” rule….

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  2. You’re really going for the Marx brothers-type silly humor with that strange photo you included.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Google:

    Jeet Heer

    All of his pictures look like that.
    , @Rob McX
    That's what I thought of as soon as I saw his picture - he looks like a fatter, mahogany-tinted version of Harpo Marx.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Have a look at the banner photo he uses over at Twitter. The child on the left looks like a cannibal who hasn't eaten in a while.

    It's worth noting that both Jeer Heer and David Frum formed their mental map of the West while living in Toronto. That's where the Social Contract was spelt out for them. In a way, their odious worldview is not their fault. I blame society.

    , @anonymous
    Is that a man? Is that a woman? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? It's--------Jeet Heer?????
    , @Olorin
    My thought was: who shared their meth with Aunt Jemima?
  3. You know, when you stop and think about it, in his lack of deference for Poland’s “territory” — lines on a map that were justified via atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship — Hitler was really kind of ahead of his time.

    Sure, Hitler did some bad things, but at least he didn’t respect Polish borders.

    From the perspective of the Current Year, who were the real Nazis in 1939? The forward thinkers who wanted Europe to be united? Or the bigoted xenophobic Borats who wanted to be left alone in their own country?

    Yeah.History repeats itself. Back then, it was the Slavs fighting to keep the Germans from acquiring their rightful Lebensraum in Eastern Europe, and now it’s Europeans denying Lebensraum to Black Africans and Muslims….

    #GetWokeHitlerWasRight

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    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    We are but humble sippers at this tea party.

    It was the Mad Hatter who decided that we change places!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Te2Lo56kc
    , @snorlax
    A radical anti-Zionist environmentalist who devoted his life to the dream of a Europe without borders. A militant atheist who worked tirelessly to build bridges to the Muslim community. A vegetarian and great admirer of Islamic and Asian civilization who didn't hesitate to deliver a muscular response to Russian meddling.

    What(/s) not to like?
  4. Forgive me for not having Jeet Heer’s intellect, but I don’t see how immigration restriction and democracy are incompatible.

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    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Forgive me for not having Jeet Heer’s intellect, but I don’t see how immigration restriction and democracy are incompatible.
     
    They're not incompatible. They're inseparable.
    , @Massimo Heitor

    Forgive me for not having Jeet Heer’s intellect, but I don’t see how immigration restriction and democracy are incompatible.
     
    Jeet Heer didn't make that point at all.

    Jeet Heer's point was that Trump's speech didn't emphasize the importance of democracy or free elections and the speech didn't define the west in those terms. Heer is completely right in that respect.

    Heer is suspicious that Trump is defining the west in terms of ethnicity, kinship, religion, and tribe, and that seems to be a good suspicion.

    BTW, even the open borders fanatics say that democracy is likely not compatible with mass immigration. From https://openborders.info/blog/billion-immigrants-change-american-polity/:
    large scale immigration to America would cause:


    Certain American ideals would die of their own increasing impracticality, e.g., “equality of opportunity,” the social safety net, one person, one vote, or non-discrimination in employment.

     

    Those are some epic caveats. That's a surprising bout of honesty from the open borders crowd. Nathan Smith can still say democracy and non-discrimination in employment are likely incompatible with mostly open borders, yet still fully advocate a full steam ahead push for open borders. Even most immigration advocates would be horrified to consider an end to the American ideals mentioned.
  5. Black Lives Matters is built on atavistic loyalties like shared kinship and ethnicity, US immigration activists waving Mexican flags are organized on atavistic loyalties, Israel is chartered on atavistic loyalties, Japan, China, Gulf States, actually pretty much everywhere is built on atavistic loyalties including all of Europe and the US until very recent history in which point came a moral demand that such loyalties be completely reversed.

    It’s almost like that Clash of Civilizations book was right.

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    • Replies: @Clyde

    Black Lives Matters is built on atavistic loyalties like shared kinship and ethnicity, US immigration activists waving Mexican flags are organized on atavistic loyalties, Israel is chartered on atavistic loyalties, Japan, China, Gulf States, actually pretty much everywhere is built on atavistic loyalties including all of Europe and the US until very recent history in which point came a moral demand that such loyalties be completely reversed.
     
    Tell me about it. What a headache. Everybody thinks they are chosen these days. They all want in on the game. In the grand scheme of things, Jewish choseness is just another one of your "atavistic loyalties".
    I am going to put Japanese emperor worship near top of the heap. Pre WW2 of course.
    , @MBlanc46
    Some people profit when our atavistic loyalties are abandoned.
  6. @BradinIN
    You're really going for the Marx brothers-type silly humor with that strange photo you included.

    Google:

    Jeet Heer

    All of his pictures look like that.

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    His?
    , @Desiderius
    Come the revolution, Jeet Heer is beyond all help.

    Maybe we should try to get him together with Aditi Natasha Kini.
    , @StillCARealist
    That's a guy? Dang, he should get a buzz cut and grow a beard if he doesn't want to go all androgynous on the rest of us.
    , @bored identity
    Jeet is one Heluva Unhinged Hinjun.

    This freshly ass-pulled contribution to the topic of WWII revisionism would made David Irving's head to 'splode from envy:




    Later, he evoked Poland’s wartime resistance to Nazism and Soviet communism. …

    Such rhetoric is meant to conjure blood-and-soil nationalism.

     So, evoking resistance to Nazism is meant to conjure blood-and-soil nationalism.

    bored identity is paging Ei Dee El.

    , @Jack Hanson
    Except the ones where he, supposedly a grown ass male, allows himself to he photographed reading his extensive collection of Archie comics.
    , @Crawfurdmuir
    This greasy babu's name has always sounded to me like a question.

    "Jeet here?"

    "No, I ate somewhere else."

    , @Bill Jones
    That's a He?

    I thought it was some sort of Diesel Dyke.
  7. As an American, I hate foreign leftists posers. You have to go back to your homeland now.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    As an American, I hate foreign leftists posers. You have to go back to your homeland now.
     
    Agreed. I'm sick of them telling Americans what "America is all about". And this guy is nominally a Canadian. He shouldn't be telling Canadians what "Canada is all aboot" either.
  8. The globalists are putting The West in scare quotes now? Are they trying to argue the West wasn’t built by white Europeans?

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    • Replies: @Zoodles
    They are trying to deconstruct the entire idea that western civilisation exists.

    Soon it will be considered to be a microaggression to talk about western culture.

    , @ogunsiron
    It beggars belief but I think that at least some of the deconstructors and intersectors are going for the Great Erasure at the same time they're going for the Great Replacement. I've come to think that the more and more frequent attempts to portray Europe as having always been "diverse" have a goal. Those who destroy hope to erase the very idea that Europe itself is the homeland of White people.
    , @rkeeler
    Listen to any BLM activist for your answer to that. According to them, everything in the United States was built on the backs of black slaves.
  9. Jeet Heer is hitting Wikipedia again in between his deep reads of comic books and D&D modules.

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  10. To get better marks from the media, Poland must try harder.

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  11. @BradinIN
    You're really going for the Marx brothers-type silly humor with that strange photo you included.

    That’s what I thought of as soon as I saw his picture – he looks like a fatter, mahogany-tinted version of Harpo Marx.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    That’s what I thought of as soon as I saw his picture – he looks like a fatter, mahogany-tinted version of Harpo Marx.
     
    Much fatter. And, unfortunately, not mute.
    , @dr kill
    Hahaha, even Jeet married a white broad. No SAPping around for our boy Jeet! How does he square that circle?
  12. @Steve Sailer
    Google:

    Jeet Heer

    All of his pictures look like that.

    His?

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Why are lefties like Jeet, so dedicated to fixing climate change, completely disregard their own personal carbon footprint?
  13. I wonder why it’s so important to certain people that whites become minorities in every single place one finds them. I’m pretty damn far from being a white nationalist, but if people are people, why does it matter that in at least a couple of European countries, those people just happen to be white? You can make the argument that white people don’t have a “right” to be the majority here in the United States, but the countries of Europe have no obligation whatsoever to open their gates to the Middle East and Africa.

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    • Replies: @Rob McX
    Any white country that does not have a deliberate policy of staying white will become non-white.
    , @Zoodles
    Because they want the right to plunder and loot our stuff.
    , @Anonymous

    You can make the argument that white people don’t have a “right” to be the majority here in the United States,
     
    No you can't. At least you can't make a very good one. Now you might argue that certain portions of the New World should be reserved for other peoples, such as Indian reservations or a so-called black homeland for freed slaves. But the USA was founded by a specific group of Europeans and they are the "our posterity" portion of the founding documents. It is their nation and their birthright.
    , @anonymous

    I wonder why it’s so important to certain people that whites become minorities in every single place one finds them.
     
    Punishment. They may preach 'diversity is our strength', but this really is about punishment. And every white neighborhood, town, and nation must get their share.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I think it's mainly the pendulum over-swinging, from civil rights for blacks, to affirmative action for them, to diversity for its own sake, to whiteness being the opposite of diversity and therefore bad.

    Ordinarily, there would have been some pushback on this, and there was, in the late '90s, under Bill Clinton. But W's Chamber of Commerce affinity plus his family's affinity for Latin Americans pushed the pendulum further to the left, and then Barack Obama pushed it further still.

    Now Trump, under the guidance of Bannon and Miller, is pushing it back.

    A lot of the screeching in response is anger about getting caught in the J-Curve. There are a lot of pundits who actively look forward to a white-minority America, and we were well on our way to that had Hillary won. We may still be on our way to it. But Trump's definition of the West as mostly white and Christian put down a marker. The left can no longer assume the sale. They are going to have to argue that Trump's definition of the West is wrong, or that it's right, but we should irrevocably change it anyway.
  14. I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?

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    • Replies: @whorefinder
    Vox Day has said that, quite frankly, communism has now proven to be less destructive than corporatism/feminism/American capitalism.

    I think it's more along the lines that the people of Eastern Europe are still led by a generation who had their childhood under communism and are enjoying freedom and independence because of it.
    , @Cagey Beast
    They were on the other side of the Iron Curtain and therefore did not get the Great American Mindf***k.
    , @anony-mouse
    There were no 'guestworkers' in Communist countries after WWII because Communism was so inefficient. Ergo no 'family chain' immigration to get things started
    , @ben tillman

    I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?
     
    Less wealth for the parasites.
    , @Anon 2
    Re: What separates Poland from Germany or Sweden

    For Poland the answer is simple: it was the largest country
    in Europe for 250 years, as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth,
    and then for almost 200 years (except for the brief interbellum period)
    it ceased to exist as a free and independent country - from 1795 (Third
    Partition) to 1989 (overthrow of Communism). It's been free for 28 years,
    and wants to enjoy its freedom for awhile before it gets invaded by
    Muslims like the rest of Europe. Poland is part of what I would call the virtuous center of
    Europe - it includes countries (all nominally Catholic, like Czechia, Slovakia,
    Hungary, and Austria) that never engaged in colonialism or transatlantic
    slave trade and yet suffered, partly because they were part of the defensive
    perimeter of Europe, protecting it against the Muslim invasions, esp. Poland
    and Hungary.

    Sweden for several centuries was an imperialist power that did a tremendous
    amount of damage in northern Germany, Poland, and Russia. The Swedes
    spent WW II basically going to the beach and getting filthy rich on lucrative
    military contracts with Nazi Germany. So they have a lot to feel guilty about.
    Plus they are probably bored, way up there in the north where nothing ever
    happens. They haven't been invaded in centuries, at least the migrants
    provide them with some drama and entertainment.
    , @Difference Maker
    Frontier with the Turk
    , @CLP
    A lack of anti-semitism.
    , @Rob McX
    Mostly because they were insulated from Western MSM and Hollywood propaganda during the Cold War years, I'd say.

    Also, the Eastern bloc countries were familiar with what was going on in the USSR during the communist years, and they would have seen that population replacement formed a major part of Kremlin policy. They're aware of a fact that has so far escaped many Western Europeans - that migration is a weapon.
  15. Because I am a collector of dishonest reasoning I’d like to hear his views on the Indian independence movement. I bet he has a very logical sounding reason for why that didn’t have anything to do with loyalties and kinship.

    Also the caste system.

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    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    I could be wrong but heer jeet seems like someone whose mind is completely and utterly shetl colonized. His opinions on the india question would probably be a mix of the opinions of various adams, noahs, micahs, irvings, rachels, avis, naomis, etc.
    , @BrokenSymmetry
    He belongs to the Heerenvolk.
    , @res

    Because I am a collector of dishonest reasoning
     
    Boy, talk about an embarrassment of riches in the current year.
  16. @Steve Sailer
    Google:

    Jeet Heer

    All of his pictures look like that.

    Come the revolution, Jeet Heer is beyond all help.

    Maybe we should try to get him together with Aditi Natasha Kini.

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    • Replies: @whorefinder
    She would reject him. She thinks she deserves Ryan Gosling or, if she has to settle, one of the actors who dated Mindy Kaling on The Mindy Project.

    South Asian women are terrible ball-cutters and are very loud in their criticisms of any men showing interest in them, as many South Asian men will tell you (and apparently this movie demonstrates).

    The problem is that such behavior is only tolerated with women in the top .1% of looks, and even then it is frowned upon. South Asian women do it as a class, and most (if not all) of them are not in that .1%. As a result, they get even fewer suitors than their subpar looks would normally get if they were merely pleasant. No normal to meek guy wants to be castigated publicly as South Asian women will do to them.

  17. @BradinIN
    You're really going for the Marx brothers-type silly humor with that strange photo you included.

    Have a look at the banner photo he uses over at Twitter. The child on the left looks like a cannibal who hasn’t eaten in a while.

    It’s worth noting that both Jeer Heer and David Frum formed their mental map of the West while living in Toronto. That’s where the Social Contract was spelt out for them. In a way, their odious worldview is not their fault. I blame society.

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    @Father O'Hara
    His?

    Why are lefties like Jeet, so dedicated to fixing climate change, completely disregard their own personal carbon footprint?

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  19. @Polynikes
    I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?

    Vox Day has said that, quite frankly, communism has now proven to be less destructive than corporatism/feminism/American capitalism.

    I think it’s more along the lines that the people of Eastern Europe are still led by a generation who had their childhood under communism and are enjoying freedom and independence because of it.

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    • Replies: @fnn

    Vox Day has said that, quite frankly, communism has now proven to be less destructive than corporatism/feminism/American capitalism.
     
    Neo-Spenglerian Francis Parker Yockey was writing that back in 1948. Quite the seer.
    , @AM

    Vox Day has said that, quite frankly, communism has now proven to be less destructive than corporatism/feminism/American capitalism.
     
    The West has corporatism yes, but it's also got socialism, which is communism (TM) lite. It's the cancer, rather than the car crash.

    I'm not sure that it does much good to imagine that problem that hit all white nations (for a lack of a better way to say it) is actually different. People are discussing Cultural Marxism for some very good reasons.
  20. @Desiderius
    Come the revolution, Jeet Heer is beyond all help.

    Maybe we should try to get him together with Aditi Natasha Kini.

    She would reject him. She thinks she deserves Ryan Gosling or, if she has to settle, one of the actors who dated Mindy Kaling on The Mindy Project.

    South Asian women are terrible ball-cutters and are very loud in their criticisms of any men showing interest in them, as many South Asian men will tell you (and apparently this movie demonstrates).

    The problem is that such behavior is only tolerated with women in the top .1% of looks, and even then it is frowned upon. South Asian women do it as a class, and most (if not all) of them are not in that .1%. As a result, they get even fewer suitors than their subpar looks would normally get if they were merely pleasant. No normal to meek guy wants to be castigated publicly as South Asian women will do to them.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    South Asian women (really Asian women of all stripes) are pretty horrible ball busters to anyone not willing to put them in line rather quickly.

    That first shit test is going to set the tone for the rest of the relationship.
  21. @Polynikes
    I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?

    They were on the other side of the Iron Curtain and therefore did not get the Great American Mindf***k.

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  22. @Stealth
    I wonder why it's so important to certain people that whites become minorities in every single place one finds them. I'm pretty damn far from being a white nationalist, but if people are people, why does it matter that in at least a couple of European countries, those people just happen to be white? You can make the argument that white people don't have a "right" to be the majority here in the United States, but the countries of Europe have no obligation whatsoever to open their gates to the Middle East and Africa.

    Any white country that does not have a deliberate policy of staying white will become non-white.

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    • Agree: Kevin C.
    • Replies: @Stealth
    Pretty much. Everybody wants to get to where the white people are.

    With so many untapped white folks, Poland is kind of like a pristine oil field. That oil had better submit.
  23. Does Trump realize that “western values” is what caused all the diversity, feminism, SJWs etc to begin with?

    He’s gonna have to redefine western values or the vast majority of people are going to think he’s talking about “freedom and equality”.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    I don't know, man, seems like the equality crowd has moved on from Western identity.

    The field for that is wide open for Trump, however he chooses to define it, or not define it as is more likely.
    , @Pericles
    Sure, Western ... (wink).
  24. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    World War II was caused by racism. By making Europe more racially heterogeneous through allowing non-white migration, European societies lose the potential for being rallied by the notion of white supremacist purity. Therefore diminishing Poland’s sovereignty is acceptable because it makes another Hitler less likely.

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  25. @Barnard
    The globalists are putting The West in scare quotes now? Are they trying to argue the West wasn't built by white Europeans?

    They are trying to deconstruct the entire idea that western civilisation exists.

    Soon it will be considered to be a microaggression to talk about western culture.

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    • Agree: Kevin C.
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    They're not just trying, they've been largely successful in large swaths of Western civilization itself.
  26. @Stealth
    I wonder why it's so important to certain people that whites become minorities in every single place one finds them. I'm pretty damn far from being a white nationalist, but if people are people, why does it matter that in at least a couple of European countries, those people just happen to be white? You can make the argument that white people don't have a "right" to be the majority here in the United States, but the countries of Europe have no obligation whatsoever to open their gates to the Middle East and Africa.

    Because they want the right to plunder and loot our stuff.

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  27. What separates Poland and Hungary from Germany is the general position of women. There is only recent consumerism and consumerism and corporate consumer spending is the steroids that jump starts SJW anti-White behavior.

    The 2Kevins had “the violence guy” James LaFond on, a working class native Baltimorean, and he noted that the times the cops were hassling him not for corrupt reasons was when a Nice White Lady called the cops on him as he defended himself from a group of Black thugs. White women will reflexively side with non-Whites in a consumerist society that caters to fatties and fugs. Roissy/Heartiste has a post up on how some fattie White chick was defended by her “boyfriend,” some Black dude who looked thuggier than the most hood-rat Baltimore career criminal. [LaFond also makes the point that most Black men are gay, as they are raped as kids by Mom's man of the week, charming.]

    Neither Germany, nor Hungary, nor Poland are exactly awash in Jewish influence. But one is an affluent, female-oriented society with massive consumerism and the others are hard-luck, hard scrabble places where male providers are not laughable surplus but a matter of survival, no matter how much tingles.

    TL:DR, Tingles Uber Alles = Death of the West.

    This is why you have so many volunteer male thought police. Being clueless and having no idea about women, they try to actually placate them instead of reading their minds and ignoring everything they say and being the abusive dominant a-holes that the women in their lives demand.

    Dudes like Jeet Heer just ride on the wave; consumerism, the pill, condom, anonymous urban living, social media unleashing the inner Kardashian whore inside every woman. What else would you expect. There will be ZERO support for Nationalism and such among about 75% of White women in the Middle Class at least; as Working Class White women get hammered economically now by mass Third World immigration and their men are at least drug using a-holes (women can’t resist that) so they are a different story. But what do fatties, fugs, and Jeet Heer offer the average White dude? A life as a real life American Gladiator every day? The life James LaFond lives? How does that work out at age 65? Age 70?

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  28. NEWSFLASH

    Mystery meat immigrant doesn’t want white people to define nationhood in blood-and-soil terms.

    In related news, the National Association of Burglars is holding a protest in front of the hardware store for selling door locks.

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    • Replies: @anon
    Good point. On the other hand, what would we do without a steady influx of obese comic book fans who have spent most of their time since coming to the West bitching about the West and the people who were here when he got here?
  29. @Barnard
    The globalists are putting The West in scare quotes now? Are they trying to argue the West wasn't built by white Europeans?

    It beggars belief but I think that at least some of the deconstructors and intersectors are going for the Great Erasure at the same time they’re going for the Great Replacement. I’ve come to think that the more and more frequent attempts to portray Europe as having always been “diverse” have a goal. Those who destroy hope to erase the very idea that Europe itself is the homeland of White people.

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  30. @Polynikes
    I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?

    There were no ‘guestworkers’ in Communist countries after WWII because Communism was so inefficient. Ergo no ‘family chain’ immigration to get things started

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    • Replies: @AM

    Ergo no ‘family chain’ immigration to get things started
     
    I'm not sure these "family chain" immigration theories get us anywhere. Who allowed the immigration in the first place? Who could send them all back right now?

    There's lots more to Hungary and Poland than just the economics of communism, including the idea that communists had to build walls to keep people in, rather than out.
  31. @Jason Liu
    Does Trump realize that "western values" is what caused all the diversity, feminism, SJWs etc to begin with?

    He's gonna have to redefine western values or the vast majority of people are going to think he's talking about "freedom and equality".

    I don’t know, man, seems like the equality crowd has moved on from Western identity.

    The field for that is wide open for Trump, however he chooses to define it, or not define it as is more likely.

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  32. Poland, Hungary and other majority-white countries need to find a way to stop future liberal governments from opening the flood gates. Ideally, demographic stability should be enshrined in their constitutions, which are difficult to change.

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    • Replies: @International Jew
    Poles fifty years from now, however liberal, will look west at ruined Germany, France etc, and draw the appropriate conclusions.
  33. For some reason everybody seems to have this completely backwards. Trump stabbed the Alt-Right in the back with his speech in Poland and then urinated on our corpse like a Russian prostitute. First, he started in with the tough-guy talk against Russia, condemning Russia for its “destabilizing activities: and for supporting “terrorist” regimes like Syria and Iran. Then he said—in Poland, mind you—that America stands firmly by Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty.

    In Poland.

    Correct me if I’m wrong here, but giving war guarantees to Poland has not worked out particularly well in the past. Then there is also the minor point that Trump got elected in part by promising to pull us out of an “obsolete” NATO, something I wholeheartedly endorse.

    This Poland speech was pure neocon bilge. This was his Saudi Arabian speech on stilts. There seems to be no extent to which he will not go to play his base for suckers. I’m getting very angry here.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    I'm glad at least one other person sees what is going on.
    , @Rod1963
    These speeches are for the public. What the pols say behind closed doors is what matters and all we can do is judge them by their actual policies they implement.

    The fact is we are in no shape to militarily aid any European country. To put a division over there would strain our logistical capability like crazy since we're already have two ongoing fights.

    This is also why Trumps bloviating on NK is so much crap as well. It's for the dolts in D.C.

    This is not to say we're not going try and topple Putin via economic destabilization, we will try but he already knows it since the Ruskies have had penetrated our intel agencies for the last 50 years. The Chinese are just behind them in that.

    In all probability we'll probably intervene in Sweden when it collapses from the Muzzie immigrants that are tearing it apart to the point the chief of Swedish police is begging for help.

    BTW it was England who set up Poland, the Brits promised them they'd protect then they reneged. Anyhow Poland was dead meat once Hitler set his eyes on it.
    , @Jack Hanson
    How sad do you have to be to try at every opportunity to declare what a victim you are? Lmao
    , @Bragadocious
    I agree, that speech was a shitshow, except for the end about national identity, which I assume was written by Stephen Miller. (The rest was written by John McCain) If Trump morphs into a full-blown neocon, he's a one-termer and a sad, insignificant footnote to history. And I will vote third party for the rest of my life.
    , @Thea
    He is moving the Overton window.

    We can now talk about "western" people having a culture, homeland and right to exist.

    He is not really fighting for the white race but he is opening the door for those who will.

    His son seems to get it but knows it's too soon to let it all spell out.

    , @Thea
    Look fam, don't despair.

    We went from Don't ask, don't tell to cake bakers losing their business and grown men in little girls locker rooms in one generation. Society can go back and farther just as quickly. The trick will be to make it last. Only will happen if God is on our side.

    You may not remember that gays in the 90s felt defeated and disappointed by Clinton.

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    @countenance
    NEWSFLASH

    Mystery meat immigrant doesn't want white people to define nationhood in blood-and-soil terms.

    In related news, the National Association of Burglars is holding a protest in front of the hardware store for selling door locks.

    Good point. On the other hand, what would we do without a steady influx of obese comic book fans who have spent most of their time since coming to the West bitching about the West and the people who were here when he got here?

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  35. @syonredux

    You know, when you stop and think about it, in his lack of deference for Poland’s “territory” — lines on a map that were justified via atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship — Hitler was really kind of ahead of his time.

    Sure, Hitler did some bad things, but at least he didn’t respect Polish borders.

    From the perspective of the Current Year, who were the real Nazis in 1939? The forward thinkers who wanted Europe to be united? Or the bigoted xenophobic Borats who wanted to be left alone in their own country?
     
    Yeah.History repeats itself. Back then, it was the Slavs fighting to keep the Germans from acquiring their rightful Lebensraum in Eastern Europe, and now it's Europeans denying Lebensraum to Black Africans and Muslims....

    #GetWokeHitlerWasRight

    We are but humble sippers at this tea party.

    It was the Mad Hatter who decided that we change places!

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  36. Jeet here? No, jew? (Benjamin Netanyahu would understand).

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  37. I am watching Fareed Zakaria on Putin influencing the election. This is on CNN. WATCH IT

    You guys are done

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I am watching Fareed Zakaria on Putin influencing the election. This is on CNN. WATCH IT
     
    Why? Did he plagiarize it from you?
    , @fish
    ALL CAPS......IMPACTFUL.

    - Leonard Pitts
    , @e
    You and 5 others. CNN has fallen off the rating's charts. Serves them right.
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    Must you rub salt into the wound? Why can't you let them fantasize a little? One gets the feeling you won't be joining the coming revolution to right the wrongs. Watch out for that tiny canard!
  38. @Rob McX
    Any white country that does not have a deliberate policy of staying white will become non-white.

    Pretty much. Everybody wants to get to where the white people are.

    With so many untapped white folks, Poland is kind of like a pristine oil field. That oil had better submit.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Pretty much. Everybody wants to get to where the white people are.
     
    Where da white civilizations at?
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Yes, because third worlders are unwilling, and more than likely, unable to create the type of society they prefer to live in. So, they glom onto ours and will continue to do so until either they are stopped or we are overwhelmed and drowned.
  39. Heer attacking Poland? Is this 1939?

    The Indo-European supremacist must disavow his name.

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  40. @JohnnyD
    Forgive me for not having Jeet Heer's intellect, but I don't see how immigration restriction and democracy are incompatible.

    Forgive me for not having Jeet Heer’s intellect, but I don’t see how immigration restriction and democracy are incompatible.

    They’re not incompatible. They’re inseparable.

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  41. @Polynikes
    I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?

    I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?

    Less wealth for the parasites.

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  42. @kihowi
    Because I am a collector of dishonest reasoning I'd like to hear his views on the Indian independence movement. I bet he has a very logical sounding reason for why that didn't have anything to do with loyalties and kinship.

    Also the caste system.

    I could be wrong but heer jeet seems like someone whose mind is completely and utterly shetl colonized. His opinions on the india question would probably be a mix of the opinions of various adams, noahs, micahs, irvings, rachels, avis, naomis, etc.

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  43. @Wazoo
    Poland, Hungary and other majority-white countries need to find a way to stop future liberal governments from opening the flood gates. Ideally, demographic stability should be enshrined in their constitutions, which are difficult to change.

    Poles fifty years from now, however liberal, will look west at ruined Germany, France etc, and draw the appropriate conclusions.

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  44. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Stealth
    I wonder why it's so important to certain people that whites become minorities in every single place one finds them. I'm pretty damn far from being a white nationalist, but if people are people, why does it matter that in at least a couple of European countries, those people just happen to be white? You can make the argument that white people don't have a "right" to be the majority here in the United States, but the countries of Europe have no obligation whatsoever to open their gates to the Middle East and Africa.

    You can make the argument that white people don’t have a “right” to be the majority here in the United States,

    No you can’t. At least you can’t make a very good one. Now you might argue that certain portions of the New World should be reserved for other peoples, such as Indian reservations or a so-called black homeland for freed slaves. But the USA was founded by a specific group of Europeans and they are the “our posterity” portion of the founding documents. It is their nation and their birthright.

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    • Replies: @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    The original ownership of the land was negated with brutality and sophistry, so why can't the sin be repeated using new strategies? A fraudulent deed can never be passed on to the progeny without the aid of a strong arm for it will always fail the validity test...
  45. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    … atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship.

    Are these the types of loyalties that caused Jeet’s antecedents to demand the British to leave India?

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  46. No one in the prestige media seems to connect the dots from the conceit that Western values are universal values and the ill-fated attempts to turn Iraq and Afghanistan into stable democracies.

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    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    From my observation, during the Reagan administration, anyone who advocated exporting democracy to the middle east would have been laughed at. I first noticed the idea of exporting democracy with the book, "Democratic Imperative Exporting the American Revolution" by Gregory Fossedal in 1989. Also, the ones who advocated exporting democracy also favored open immigration. The Iraq and Afghan Wars, which included promoting democracy, were liberal wars:
    People are alike all over and want the same things and are capable of the same things. I remember Rush Limbaugh opining on the supposed human desire to be free. One dissident was Michael Savage, who asked, "How can we export democracy to a people who have never heard of the Magna Carta"? The debacles in both countries certainly hurt the campaign of Jeb! in the 2016 Republican primaries.
  47. @Rob McX
    That's what I thought of as soon as I saw his picture - he looks like a fatter, mahogany-tinted version of Harpo Marx.

    That’s what I thought of as soon as I saw his picture – he looks like a fatter, mahogany-tinted version of Harpo Marx.

    Much fatter. And, unfortunately, not mute.

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  48. @Tiny Duck
    I am watching Fareed Zakaria on Putin influencing the election. This is on CNN. WATCH IT

    You guys are done

    I am watching Fareed Zakaria on Putin influencing the election. This is on CNN. WATCH IT

    Why? Did he plagiarize it from you?

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  49. @Stealth
    Pretty much. Everybody wants to get to where the white people are.

    With so many untapped white folks, Poland is kind of like a pristine oil field. That oil had better submit.

    Pretty much. Everybody wants to get to where the white people are.

    Where da white civilizations at?

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  50. @syonredux

    You know, when you stop and think about it, in his lack of deference for Poland’s “territory” — lines on a map that were justified via atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship — Hitler was really kind of ahead of his time.

    Sure, Hitler did some bad things, but at least he didn’t respect Polish borders.

    From the perspective of the Current Year, who were the real Nazis in 1939? The forward thinkers who wanted Europe to be united? Or the bigoted xenophobic Borats who wanted to be left alone in their own country?
     
    Yeah.History repeats itself. Back then, it was the Slavs fighting to keep the Germans from acquiring their rightful Lebensraum in Eastern Europe, and now it's Europeans denying Lebensraum to Black Africans and Muslims....

    #GetWokeHitlerWasRight

    A radical anti-Zionist environmentalist who devoted his life to the dream of a Europe without borders. A militant atheist who worked tirelessly to build bridges to the Muslim community. A vegetarian and great admirer of Islamic and Asian civilization who didn’t hesitate to deliver a muscular response to Russian meddling.

    What(/s) not to like?

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Was he an anti-zionist? Obviously he was an anti-semite, but was he against the creation of a Jewish state outside of Europe?
    , @Almost Missouri
    Don't forget that Hitler was an illegal alien from a backwards, medieval state living in the shadows and facing deportation in modern, first-world Germany.

    #AmnestySiegHeil
  51. @Intelligent Dasein
    For some reason everybody seems to have this completely backwards. Trump stabbed the Alt-Right in the back with his speech in Poland and then urinated on our corpse like a Russian prostitute. First, he started in with the tough-guy talk against Russia, condemning Russia for its "destabilizing activities: and for supporting "terrorist" regimes like Syria and Iran. Then he said---in Poland, mind you---that America stands firmly by Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty.

    In Poland.

    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but giving war guarantees to Poland has not worked out particularly well in the past. Then there is also the minor point that Trump got elected in part by promising to pull us out of an "obsolete" NATO, something I wholeheartedly endorse.

    This Poland speech was pure neocon bilge. This was his Saudi Arabian speech on stilts. There seems to be no extent to which he will not go to play his base for suckers. I'm getting very angry here.

    I’m glad at least one other person sees what is going on.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    You will definitely find other eeyores here at iSteve.

    As far as what is "really going on", your track record of predictions isnt exactly one I'd take seriously.
  52. @ben tillman

    Forgive me for not having Jeet Heer’s intellect, but I don’t see how immigration restriction and democracy are incompatible.
     
    They're not incompatible. They're inseparable.

    I think the Founding Fathers would agree.

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  53. @newrouter
    As an American, I hate foreign leftists posers. You have to go back to your homeland now.

    As an American, I hate foreign leftists posers. You have to go back to your homeland now.

    Agreed. I’m sick of them telling Americans what “America is all about”. And this guy is nominally a Canadian. He shouldn’t be telling Canadians what “Canada is all aboot” either.

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  54. I remember a lot of statues of kings in Europe. They usually got these statues (or squares named after them, etc.) by expending blood to defend soil…
    The only monument to idealist democracy I could find on Google is in Bangkok…
    But according Jeet Heer I guess the West formed in about 1992/3 so…

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  55. Jewish politicians Behind The Hart-Celler Open Immigration Law of 1965 included: Senator Jacob Javits (NY); Congressman Emanuel Celler (NY); Leo Pfeffer (Former President of American Jewish Congress (AJC); Norman Podhoretz (Writer and Member of The Council on Foreign Relations,– former leftist, now a Jewish neo-con); Senator Charles Schumer; and Representative Elizabeth Holtzman.

    “For perhaps another generation, an optimistic forecast, the Jewish community is thus in a position where it will be able to DIVIDE AND CONQUER and enter into selective coalitions that support our agendas.”
    — (Stephen Steinlight, National Director of the American Jewish Committee, writing in the article: “The Jewish Stake in America’s Changing Demography: Reconsidering a Misguided Immigration Policy.”) https://cis.org/Jewish-Stake-Americas-Changing-Demography

    Current U.S. demographic trends are the result of a deliberate strategy by Zionist financial, political and media elites to open U.S borders to the 3rd world, in order to transform a united, homogenous White Christian society, into an divided and squabbling, multiracial population, which they can easily manipulate, as it is held together by nothing deeper than “the economy” which their (((tribe))) controls.

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    @Stealth
    I wonder why it's so important to certain people that whites become minorities in every single place one finds them. I'm pretty damn far from being a white nationalist, but if people are people, why does it matter that in at least a couple of European countries, those people just happen to be white? You can make the argument that white people don't have a "right" to be the majority here in the United States, but the countries of Europe have no obligation whatsoever to open their gates to the Middle East and Africa.

    I wonder why it’s so important to certain people that whites become minorities in every single place one finds them.

    Punishment. They may preach ‘diversity is our strength’, but this really is about punishment. And every white neighborhood, town, and nation must get their share.

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  57. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @snorlax
    A radical anti-Zionist environmentalist who devoted his life to the dream of a Europe without borders. A militant atheist who worked tirelessly to build bridges to the Muslim community. A vegetarian and great admirer of Islamic and Asian civilization who didn't hesitate to deliver a muscular response to Russian meddling.

    What(/s) not to like?

    Was he an anti-zionist? Obviously he was an anti-semite, but was he against the creation of a Jewish state outside of Europe?

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    • Replies: @snorlax
    Yes, he had a very close relationship with the Mufti of Jerusalem, who was the Yasser Arafat equivalent of the day.
    , @reiner Tor
    He thought a Jewish state wouldn't actually mean all Jews living there together, instead it'd mean Jews having a refuge whenever they do mischief. He wasn't exactly wrong about that, Jewish criminals now have the option of going to Israel, which will then immediately grant citizenship to them and so won't extradite them at all. I think all of us can name a few high-profile Jewish criminals who did this.

    What Hitler wanted instead was essentially a huge ghetto or even concentration camp under the surveillance of the SS or some other similar Nazi organisations, and though he probably didn't have very firm plans on this, it would probably have led to the extermination of the Jews anyway.

    In any event, Hitler's opposition to the existence of the Jewish state (in fact, to the very existence of the Jewish people, or rather, to the existence of any Jews anywhere) was both morally and politically wrong. You need to provide your enemies with some accommodation, a possibility to reconcile themselves to your rule, and denying them the right to exist made it impossible. (It is also morally wrong. Being morally so wrong will create political difficulties, too, for example the fact that many in the Abwehr were double agents for the Allies could be traced back to this.) Even if Jews (most Jews, at any rate) were quite unwilling to come to terms with his Germany, he made it totally impossible even for the few who were willing to do so. (Obviously some racialist Zionists had the inclination to support his rule as a way to force German Jews into Palestine, and some German Jews even were willing to make the extraordinary sacrifice of supporting Nazism even in spite of the anti-Semitic measures until perhaps 1935.)
  58. @Steve Sailer
    Google:

    Jeet Heer

    All of his pictures look like that.

    That’s a guy? Dang, he should get a buzz cut and grow a beard if he doesn’t want to go all androgynous on the rest of us.

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  59. @anonymous
    Was he an anti-zionist? Obviously he was an anti-semite, but was he against the creation of a Jewish state outside of Europe?

    Yes, he had a very close relationship with the Mufti of Jerusalem, who was the Yasser Arafat equivalent of the day.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Things they don't teach you in school...

    "The Madagascar Plan"

    Rademacher recommended on 3 June 1940 that Madagascar should be made available as a destination for the Jews of Europe. With Adolf Hitler's approval, Adolf Eichmann released a memorandum on 15 August 1940 calling for the resettlement of a million Jews per year for four years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

    See also the "1933 Transfer Agreement"
  60. @Tiny Duck
    I am watching Fareed Zakaria on Putin influencing the election. This is on CNN. WATCH IT

    You guys are done

    ALL CAPS……IMPACTFUL.

    - Leonard Pitts

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  61. @Tiny Duck
    I am watching Fareed Zakaria on Putin influencing the election. This is on CNN. WATCH IT

    You guys are done

    You and 5 others. CNN has fallen off the rating’s charts. Serves them right.

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  62. @snorlax
    Yes, he had a very close relationship with the Mufti of Jerusalem, who was the Yasser Arafat equivalent of the day.

    Things they don’t teach you in school…

    “The Madagascar Plan”

    Rademacher recommended on 3 June 1940 that Madagascar should be made available as a destination for the Jews of Europe. With Adolf Hitler’s approval, Adolf Eichmann released a memorandum on 15 August 1940 calling for the resettlement of a million Jews per year for four years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

    See also the “1933 Transfer Agreement”

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    • Replies: @utu
    “The Madagascar Plan” Madagascar should be made available as a destination for the Jews of Europe

    The capitulation of the III Reich on May 8th should be the most important holiday of Madagascar.
  63. Not to be disrespectful; but Jeet Heer your article shows you have little in the way of knowledge of 20th century history. Beyond that you don’t seem to grasp the concept of “define”. One can only wonder if you are simply attempting to sow the seeds of discourse and division by propagating ignorance.

    You state “I mean, from the perspective of the Current Year, who were the real Nazis on September 1, 1939? Those who wanted Europe united under the leadership of a forward-thinking German Chancellor? Or those bigoted xenophobic Borats who wanted to be left alone in their own country?”

    Do you even know what a Nazi is? The National Socialist German Workers’ Party were globalists, true; but they wanted the world as one nation, Hitler’s Germany. They did not want other nations to exist as such in their ideology of a global nation, hence their concept of Lebensraum and them starting a war of conquest.

    Let’s not forget the communism touted by the National “Socialist” German Workers’ Party. The Nazi leadership were heavily influenced by the writings of Karl Marx and supported his theories. They pretty much lived up to their own name, Nazis.

    You state Adolph Hitler was “a forward-thinking German Chancellor” who sought a “Europe united”. How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being “forward-thinking”? How is sending tens of millions of Europeans to death camps uniting Europe?

    You mock those who “wanted to be left alone in their own country” as being “bigoted xenophobic Borats”. You don’t bother to mention the Nazis that came into their country did so by bombing and machine gunning Poles to death and sending survivors to work in forced labor camps; often separating families in the process.

    As to you not grasping the concept of “define”, you state:
    “Here, Trump is defining the West not based on ideals like democracy and liberty, but atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship.”

    Did President Trump say that Poland’s brutal fighting during WW2 and throughout history is “defining the West”? No, he did not. Only you Jeet, make that claim. This is what he said:
    “We have to remember that our defense is not just a commitment of money, it is a commitment of will. Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have. The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders? Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?”

    Clearly President Trump was talking about cultures defending themselves; and not narrowly defining them as you falsely claim.

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    You state Adolph Hitler was “a forward-thinking German Chancellor” who sought a “Europe united”. How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being “forward-thinking”?
     
    Every historian now accepts that Hitler never wanted to move West and go to war with Britain and France. There was no reason for the German-Polish dispute to blossom into WW2. The general European war that began in 1939 was mainly the project of FDR.

    Herbert Hoover:
    http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2012/05/poland-as-pawn-hoover-identifies.html


    Hoover would document his conversations with the various people he met with. An example is provided of Hoover’s meeting with Kennedy on May 15, 1945. Kennedy indicated he had over 900 dispatches which he could not print without consent of the U.S. Government. He hoped one day to receive such permission as it was Kennedy’s intention to write a book that would:

    …put an entirely different color on the process of how America got into the war and would prove the betrayal of the American people by Franklin D, Roosevelt.

    …Roosevelt and Bullitt were the major factors in the British making their guarantees to Poland and becoming involved in the war. Kennedy said that Bullitt, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the Poles not to make terms with the Germans and that he Kennedy, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the British to make guarantees to the Poles.

    He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.

    Kennedy said that if it had not been for Roosevelt the British would not have made this most gigantic blunder in history.

    Kennedy told me that he thought Roosevelt was in communication with Churchill, who was the leader of the opposition to Chamberlain, before Chamberlain was thrown out of office….

    James Forrestal, Under Secretary of the Navy, documented in his diaries a substantially similar conversation with Kennedy.
     

    Respected mainstream liberal Zionist Jewish historian tells the same story with a predictably different spin:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1G7H48SQQAXD8/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1557780218

    On foreign policy, he shows Roosevelt as *the* Machiavellian power player of the century. While outwardly he professed only peaceful intentions, it was his diplomats who secretly pushed Poland to fight Germany, and Britain to back her up. He then worked tirelessly, using both diplomatic and military means, before and after the US officially entered the war, to weaken Germany and ensure that there would be no peace short of Germany's utter destruction. For example, Herzstein writes:

    "In the bitter words of Joseph P. Kennedy, uttered at a later time, 'neither the French nor the British would have made Poland a cause of war if it had not been for the constant needling from Washington.' On another occasion, Kennedy blamed [Roosevelt's ambassador to France, William C.] Bullitt for the outbreak of hostilities. Polish and French documents bear out much of Kennedy's charge." (p. 297)
     

    , @HEL

    You state Adolph Hitler was “a forward-thinking German Chancellor” who sought a “Europe united”. How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being “forward-thinking”? How is sending tens of millions of Europeans to death camps uniting Europe?

     

    Truly insightful counterpoints. So compelling, in fact, that one would almost think Sailer was being facetious in describing Hitler in such a manner!

    . . .

    Good god! Unz needs to add a "Sperg" tag for commenters like this ridiculous specimen.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being “forward-thinking”?

     

    As I recall Britain started the war.

    Britain and France declare war on Germany
  64. @Massimo Heitor
    Black Lives Matters is built on atavistic loyalties like shared kinship and ethnicity, US immigration activists waving Mexican flags are organized on atavistic loyalties, Israel is chartered on atavistic loyalties, Japan, China, Gulf States, actually pretty much everywhere is built on atavistic loyalties including all of Europe and the US until very recent history in which point came a moral demand that such loyalties be completely reversed.

    It's almost like that Clash of Civilizations book was right.

    Black Lives Matters is built on atavistic loyalties like shared kinship and ethnicity, US immigration activists waving Mexican flags are organized on atavistic loyalties, Israel is chartered on atavistic loyalties, Japan, China, Gulf States, actually pretty much everywhere is built on atavistic loyalties including all of Europe and the US until very recent history in which point came a moral demand that such loyalties be completely reversed.

    Tell me about it. What a headache. Everybody thinks they are chosen these days. They all want in on the game. In the grand scheme of things, Jewish choseness is just another one of your “atavistic loyalties”.
    I am going to put Japanese emperor worship near top of the heap. Pre WW2 of course.

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  65. Preview of Trump/Putin summit coverage:

    “Trump is Hitler if he DOESN’T invade Russia.”

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  66. @Intelligent Dasein
    For some reason everybody seems to have this completely backwards. Trump stabbed the Alt-Right in the back with his speech in Poland and then urinated on our corpse like a Russian prostitute. First, he started in with the tough-guy talk against Russia, condemning Russia for its "destabilizing activities: and for supporting "terrorist" regimes like Syria and Iran. Then he said---in Poland, mind you---that America stands firmly by Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty.

    In Poland.

    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but giving war guarantees to Poland has not worked out particularly well in the past. Then there is also the minor point that Trump got elected in part by promising to pull us out of an "obsolete" NATO, something I wholeheartedly endorse.

    This Poland speech was pure neocon bilge. This was his Saudi Arabian speech on stilts. There seems to be no extent to which he will not go to play his base for suckers. I'm getting very angry here.

    These speeches are for the public. What the pols say behind closed doors is what matters and all we can do is judge them by their actual policies they implement.

    The fact is we are in no shape to militarily aid any European country. To put a division over there would strain our logistical capability like crazy since we’re already have two ongoing fights.

    This is also why Trumps bloviating on NK is so much crap as well. It’s for the dolts in D.C.

    This is not to say we’re not going try and topple Putin via economic destabilization, we will try but he already knows it since the Ruskies have had penetrated our intel agencies for the last 50 years. The Chinese are just behind them in that.

    In all probability we’ll probably intervene in Sweden when it collapses from the Muzzie immigrants that are tearing it apart to the point the chief of Swedish police is begging for help.

    BTW it was England who set up Poland, the Brits promised them they’d protect then they reneged. Anyhow Poland was dead meat once Hitler set his eyes on it.

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    BTW it was England who set up Poland, the Brits promised them they’d protect then they reneged.
     
    In fairness to the English, the previous time they guaranteed the protection of a continental ally (Belgium) 25 years earlier, it cost them 750K dead and 1.6 mil wounded. Every British politician knew the English people had no stomach for another industrial meat grinder like that. Even so, England (along with France) did declare war on Germany on September 3rd, 1939 because Germany ignored their ultimatum to cease operations in Poland.
  67. @Jason Liu
    Does Trump realize that "western values" is what caused all the diversity, feminism, SJWs etc to begin with?

    He's gonna have to redefine western values or the vast majority of people are going to think he's talking about "freedom and equality".

    Sure, Western … (wink).

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  68. @Cagey Beast
    Have a look at the banner photo he uses over at Twitter. The child on the left looks like a cannibal who hasn't eaten in a while.

    It's worth noting that both Jeer Heer and David Frum formed their mental map of the West while living in Toronto. That's where the Social Contract was spelt out for them. In a way, their odious worldview is not their fault. I blame society.

    Blame Canada!

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  69. When you get the elite bird cage liners to freak out, you know you hit a nerve. So TNR trotted out some bloated bug eyed foreign freak who hates the West to attack Trump. I guess TNR hopes this will protect them from mockery and insults.

    Actually it makes them look even worse if that is possible. We already know they hate whites and Western Civ and want them eradicated,

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  70. @Stealth
    I wonder why it's so important to certain people that whites become minorities in every single place one finds them. I'm pretty damn far from being a white nationalist, but if people are people, why does it matter that in at least a couple of European countries, those people just happen to be white? You can make the argument that white people don't have a "right" to be the majority here in the United States, but the countries of Europe have no obligation whatsoever to open their gates to the Middle East and Africa.

    I think it’s mainly the pendulum over-swinging, from civil rights for blacks, to affirmative action for them, to diversity for its own sake, to whiteness being the opposite of diversity and therefore bad.

    Ordinarily, there would have been some pushback on this, and there was, in the late ’90s, under Bill Clinton. But W’s Chamber of Commerce affinity plus his family’s affinity for Latin Americans pushed the pendulum further to the left, and then Barack Obama pushed it further still.

    Now Trump, under the guidance of Bannon and Miller, is pushing it back.

    A lot of the screeching in response is anger about getting caught in the J-Curve. There are a lot of pundits who actively look forward to a white-minority America, and we were well on our way to that had Hillary won. We may still be on our way to it. But Trump’s definition of the West as mostly white and Christian put down a marker. The left can no longer assume the sale. They are going to have to argue that Trump’s definition of the West is wrong, or that it’s right, but we should irrevocably change it anyway.

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    They are going to have to argue that Trump’s definition of the West is wrong, or that it’s right, but we should irrevocably change it anyway.
     
    I suppose I'll flesh this out. The first tactic is the neo-liberal one which goes exactly as you would expect:

    https://twitter.com/zackbeauchamp/status/882951807789662208

    That it took Trump's arrival to force their hand just goes to show you how long they've been counterfeiting the currency of the phrase "Western values" with the general population. This other Vox pundit reveals the ultimate "Western value" is just coerced openness to demographic and cultural replacement by non-Westerners, coerced by government restrictions of things that usually came to mind when you heard "Western values", like the freedom of speech and democratic will to refuse.

    The second option is what the harder left are doing: attacking the "conservative" founding mythology of America as created from Western values, and in so doing identifying "Western values" with white supremacy.

    What's it going to take for the public that kind of likes America and Western civilization to realize the demographic changes and "democratic institutions" that Trump imperils are actually kind of undemocratic and hostile to the Western way of life?
    , @Anonymous

    They are going to have to argue that Trump’s definition of the West is wrong, or that it’s right, but we should irrevocably change it anyway.
     
    But even before Trump they were engaged in this game, in which progressivism inched forward:

    Good Neo-lib/con Cop tells you what your reality is or how you got there: ... has always been a nation of immigrants; ... was founded by an idea, not a people; ... has always been diverse; ... has always had and benefited from free trade with nations; ... has always been culturally enriched by outsiders.

    Bad Leftist Cop tells you: ... was founded on ethnic supremacy; ... was prejudiced against every type of immigrant; ... owes its wealth to colonial exploitation; ... stole and appropriated its culture from others.

    The average person is getting gaslighted by this. What's being squeezed out the discourse is the reality that's slipping through their fingers as the interrogation for badthink goes on, as the evidence the West left behind is being destroyed -- and Trump, with this kind of speech, and when he harkens back to a time when America was great, is forcing them to look back at what once was and what for some vaguely understood reason is no longer possible.

  71. @Steve Sailer
    Google:

    Jeet Heer

    All of his pictures look like that.

    Jeet is one Heluva Unhinged Hinjun.

    This freshly ass-pulled contribution to the topic of WWII revisionism would made David Irving’s head to ‘splode from envy:

    Later, he evoked Poland’s wartime resistance to Nazism and Soviet communism. …

    Such rhetoric is meant to conjure blood-and-soil nationalism.

    So, evoking resistance to Nazism is meant to conjure blood-and-soil nationalism.

    bored identity is paging Ei Dee El.

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  72. @Polynikes
    I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?

    Re: What separates Poland from Germany or Sweden

    For Poland the answer is simple: it was the largest country
    in Europe for 250 years, as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth,
    and then for almost 200 years (except for the brief interbellum period)
    it ceased to exist as a free and independent country – from 1795 (Third
    Partition) to 1989 (overthrow of Communism). It’s been free for 28 years,
    and wants to enjoy its freedom for awhile before it gets invaded by
    Muslims like the rest of Europe. Poland is part of what I would call the virtuous center of
    Europe – it includes countries (all nominally Catholic, like Czechia, Slovakia,
    Hungary, and Austria) that never engaged in colonialism or transatlantic
    slave trade and yet suffered, partly because they were part of the defensive
    perimeter of Europe, protecting it against the Muslim invasions, esp. Poland
    and Hungary.

    Sweden for several centuries was an imperialist power that did a tremendous
    amount of damage in northern Germany, Poland, and Russia. The Swedes
    spent WW II basically going to the beach and getting filthy rich on lucrative
    military contracts with Nazi Germany. So they have a lot to feel guilty about.
    Plus they are probably bored, way up there in the north where nothing ever
    happens. They haven’t been invaded in centuries, at least the migrants
    provide them with some drama and entertainment.

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  73. That forward thinking chancellor killed tens of millions white people. I suspect current state of affairs both politically and demographically is direct result of two World wars. The flower of European youth perished in both.

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  74. @Polynikes
    I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?

    Frontier with the Turk

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  75. @anonymous
    Was he an anti-zionist? Obviously he was an anti-semite, but was he against the creation of a Jewish state outside of Europe?

    He thought a Jewish state wouldn’t actually mean all Jews living there together, instead it’d mean Jews having a refuge whenever they do mischief. He wasn’t exactly wrong about that, Jewish criminals now have the option of going to Israel, which will then immediately grant citizenship to them and so won’t extradite them at all. I think all of us can name a few high-profile Jewish criminals who did this.

    What Hitler wanted instead was essentially a huge ghetto or even concentration camp under the surveillance of the SS or some other similar Nazi organisations, and though he probably didn’t have very firm plans on this, it would probably have led to the extermination of the Jews anyway.

    In any event, Hitler’s opposition to the existence of the Jewish state (in fact, to the very existence of the Jewish people, or rather, to the existence of any Jews anywhere) was both morally and politically wrong. You need to provide your enemies with some accommodation, a possibility to reconcile themselves to your rule, and denying them the right to exist made it impossible. (It is also morally wrong. Being morally so wrong will create political difficulties, too, for example the fact that many in the Abwehr were double agents for the Allies could be traced back to this.) Even if Jews (most Jews, at any rate) were quite unwilling to come to terms with his Germany, he made it totally impossible even for the few who were willing to do so. (Obviously some racialist Zionists had the inclination to support his rule as a way to force German Jews into Palestine, and some German Jews even were willing to make the extraordinary sacrifice of supporting Nazism even in spite of the anti-Semitic measures until perhaps 1935.)

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    You need to provide your enemies with some accommodation, a possibility to reconcile themselves to your rule
     
    I was prepared to argue with you but then I saw your Twitter motto:

    I’m nothing but a pure fool, enlightened by compassion.
     
    Your timeline seems woke enough, though.
    , @Art Deco
    He wasn’t exactly wrong about that, Jewish criminals now have the option of going to Israel, which will then immediately grant citizenship to them and so won’t extradite them at all. I think all of us can name a few high-profile Jewish criminals who did this.

    Israel both extradites people and tries Israeli citizens for crimes committed abroad:

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/israeli-policy-on-extradition
    , @Opinionator
    In any event, Hitler’s opposition to the existence of the Jewish state (in fact, to the very existence of the Jewish people, or rather, to the existence of any Jews anywhere) was both morally and politically wrong.

    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition to the existence of a Jewish state or to the existence of any Jews anywhere? If so, could you point us to some?
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    @Dave Pinsen
    I think it's mainly the pendulum over-swinging, from civil rights for blacks, to affirmative action for them, to diversity for its own sake, to whiteness being the opposite of diversity and therefore bad.

    Ordinarily, there would have been some pushback on this, and there was, in the late '90s, under Bill Clinton. But W's Chamber of Commerce affinity plus his family's affinity for Latin Americans pushed the pendulum further to the left, and then Barack Obama pushed it further still.

    Now Trump, under the guidance of Bannon and Miller, is pushing it back.

    A lot of the screeching in response is anger about getting caught in the J-Curve. There are a lot of pundits who actively look forward to a white-minority America, and we were well on our way to that had Hillary won. We may still be on our way to it. But Trump's definition of the West as mostly white and Christian put down a marker. The left can no longer assume the sale. They are going to have to argue that Trump's definition of the West is wrong, or that it's right, but we should irrevocably change it anyway.

    They are going to have to argue that Trump’s definition of the West is wrong, or that it’s right, but we should irrevocably change it anyway.

    I suppose I’ll flesh this out. The first tactic is the neo-liberal one which goes exactly as you would expect:

    That it took Trump’s arrival to force their hand just goes to show you how long they’ve been counterfeiting the currency of the phrase “Western values” with the general population. This other Vox pundit reveals the ultimate “Western value” is just coerced openness to demographic and cultural replacement by non-Westerners, coerced by government restrictions of things that usually came to mind when you heard “Western values”, like the freedom of speech and democratic will to refuse.

    The second option is what the harder left are doing: attacking the “conservative” founding mythology of America as created from Western values, and in so doing identifying “Western values” with white supremacy.

    What’s it going to take for the public that kind of likes America and Western civilization to realize the demographic changes and “democratic institutions” that Trump imperils are actually kind of undemocratic and hostile to the Western way of life?

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  77. @Polynikes
    I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?

    A lack of anti-semitism.

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  78. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Dave Pinsen
    I think it's mainly the pendulum over-swinging, from civil rights for blacks, to affirmative action for them, to diversity for its own sake, to whiteness being the opposite of diversity and therefore bad.

    Ordinarily, there would have been some pushback on this, and there was, in the late '90s, under Bill Clinton. But W's Chamber of Commerce affinity plus his family's affinity for Latin Americans pushed the pendulum further to the left, and then Barack Obama pushed it further still.

    Now Trump, under the guidance of Bannon and Miller, is pushing it back.

    A lot of the screeching in response is anger about getting caught in the J-Curve. There are a lot of pundits who actively look forward to a white-minority America, and we were well on our way to that had Hillary won. We may still be on our way to it. But Trump's definition of the West as mostly white and Christian put down a marker. The left can no longer assume the sale. They are going to have to argue that Trump's definition of the West is wrong, or that it's right, but we should irrevocably change it anyway.

    They are going to have to argue that Trump’s definition of the West is wrong, or that it’s right, but we should irrevocably change it anyway.

    But even before Trump they were engaged in this game, in which progressivism inched forward:

    Good Neo-lib/con Cop tells you what your reality is or how you got there: … has always been a nation of immigrants; … was founded by an idea, not a people; … has always been diverse; … has always had and benefited from free trade with nations; … has always been culturally enriched by outsiders.

    Bad Leftist Cop tells you: … was founded on ethnic supremacy; … was prejudiced against every type of immigrant; … owes its wealth to colonial exploitation; … stole and appropriated its culture from others.

    The average person is getting gaslighted by this. What’s being squeezed out the discourse is the reality that’s slipping through their fingers as the interrogation for badthink goes on, as the evidence the West left behind is being destroyed — and Trump, with this kind of speech, and when he harkens back to a time when America was great, is forcing them to look back at what once was and what for some vaguely understood reason is no longer possible.

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  79. @kihowi
    Because I am a collector of dishonest reasoning I'd like to hear his views on the Indian independence movement. I bet he has a very logical sounding reason for why that didn't have anything to do with loyalties and kinship.

    Also the caste system.

    He belongs to the Heerenvolk.

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  80. @reiner Tor
    He thought a Jewish state wouldn't actually mean all Jews living there together, instead it'd mean Jews having a refuge whenever they do mischief. He wasn't exactly wrong about that, Jewish criminals now have the option of going to Israel, which will then immediately grant citizenship to them and so won't extradite them at all. I think all of us can name a few high-profile Jewish criminals who did this.

    What Hitler wanted instead was essentially a huge ghetto or even concentration camp under the surveillance of the SS or some other similar Nazi organisations, and though he probably didn't have very firm plans on this, it would probably have led to the extermination of the Jews anyway.

    In any event, Hitler's opposition to the existence of the Jewish state (in fact, to the very existence of the Jewish people, or rather, to the existence of any Jews anywhere) was both morally and politically wrong. You need to provide your enemies with some accommodation, a possibility to reconcile themselves to your rule, and denying them the right to exist made it impossible. (It is also morally wrong. Being morally so wrong will create political difficulties, too, for example the fact that many in the Abwehr were double agents for the Allies could be traced back to this.) Even if Jews (most Jews, at any rate) were quite unwilling to come to terms with his Germany, he made it totally impossible even for the few who were willing to do so. (Obviously some racialist Zionists had the inclination to support his rule as a way to force German Jews into Palestine, and some German Jews even were willing to make the extraordinary sacrifice of supporting Nazism even in spite of the anti-Semitic measures until perhaps 1935.)

    You need to provide your enemies with some accommodation, a possibility to reconcile themselves to your rule

    I was prepared to argue with you but then I saw your Twitter motto:

    I’m nothing but a pure fool, enlightened by compassion.

    Your timeline seems woke enough, though.

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  81. @Rob McX
    That's what I thought of as soon as I saw his picture - he looks like a fatter, mahogany-tinted version of Harpo Marx.

    Hahaha, even Jeet married a white broad. No SAPping around for our boy Jeet! How does he square that circle?

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    He would merely say something like "love has no color"/ "love has no boundaries" and let it be.

    Or, if under pressure y an SJW witchhunt, he would undertake a thorough public study as to why he married outside his race and whether he should be given 40 lashes, or, in the alternative, why he should be held up as a man who overcame the white-christian-patriarchy brainwashing.

    The SJW hamster is a resilient one. Look how long Race Denialism has been in force in the West---50-60 years in some circles, all while simultaneously castigating White People as The Most Evil Thing Eva.

  82. Jeet Heer is emblamatic of a lot of subcontinentals who come to the West from upper caste backgrounds and find themselves upset they are now so comparatively dark and nobody cares what caste or family they come from. What they also don’t realise is that nobody really cares, but in their mind the reason everything bad happens to them is racism and their new home should embrace them totally. They don’t realise that if they were the same guy and white they’d have pretty bad luck with the white girls too, but that’s not socially acceptable to complain about so they go with race.

    Jeet Heer also reminds me of a lot of Africans like this guy:

    http://www.visahunter.com/about-me/

    Their desire for open borders isn’t based on racism towards the natives, a desire to fill the country with people like them or morality, it’s just their utter personal fear of being sent back. It’s all about them.

    Heer is basically the ultimate SJW fedora. He ponders why the entire world should not be rearranged to make him the Alpha male. That’s all you need to know about everything he believes.

    He often trolls the RealPeerReview twitter.

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  83. @whorefinder
    Vox Day has said that, quite frankly, communism has now proven to be less destructive than corporatism/feminism/American capitalism.

    I think it's more along the lines that the people of Eastern Europe are still led by a generation who had their childhood under communism and are enjoying freedom and independence because of it.

    Vox Day has said that, quite frankly, communism has now proven to be less destructive than corporatism/feminism/American capitalism.

    Neo-Spenglerian Francis Parker Yockey was writing that back in 1948. Quite the seer.

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  84. @Polynikes
    I am curious as to why Poland and Hungary are on the forefront of European anti-immigration.

    What separates them from Germany and Sweden?

    Mostly because they were insulated from Western MSM and Hollywood propaganda during the Cold War years, I’d say.

    Also, the Eastern bloc countries were familiar with what was going on in the USSR during the communist years, and they would have seen that population replacement formed a major part of Kremlin policy. They’re aware of a fact that has so far escaped many Western Europeans – that migration is a weapon.

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  85. I admire Poland tremendously today, but as a purely historical note, until they themselves were invaded they most certainly did not respect borders, nor did they merely want to be left alone. When Hitler carved up Czechoslovakia, Poland came in to take its share and did. In the words of Churchill: “England …offers to guarantee the integrity of Poland — the same in Poland, which just six months ago with greed hyena appetite took part in the robbery and destruction of the Czechoslovak state.” (italics added). Their pre-war borders of course included large non-Pole territories taken from the Bolsheviks.

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  86. @reiner Tor
    He thought a Jewish state wouldn't actually mean all Jews living there together, instead it'd mean Jews having a refuge whenever they do mischief. He wasn't exactly wrong about that, Jewish criminals now have the option of going to Israel, which will then immediately grant citizenship to them and so won't extradite them at all. I think all of us can name a few high-profile Jewish criminals who did this.

    What Hitler wanted instead was essentially a huge ghetto or even concentration camp under the surveillance of the SS or some other similar Nazi organisations, and though he probably didn't have very firm plans on this, it would probably have led to the extermination of the Jews anyway.

    In any event, Hitler's opposition to the existence of the Jewish state (in fact, to the very existence of the Jewish people, or rather, to the existence of any Jews anywhere) was both morally and politically wrong. You need to provide your enemies with some accommodation, a possibility to reconcile themselves to your rule, and denying them the right to exist made it impossible. (It is also morally wrong. Being morally so wrong will create political difficulties, too, for example the fact that many in the Abwehr were double agents for the Allies could be traced back to this.) Even if Jews (most Jews, at any rate) were quite unwilling to come to terms with his Germany, he made it totally impossible even for the few who were willing to do so. (Obviously some racialist Zionists had the inclination to support his rule as a way to force German Jews into Palestine, and some German Jews even were willing to make the extraordinary sacrifice of supporting Nazism even in spite of the anti-Semitic measures until perhaps 1935.)

    He wasn’t exactly wrong about that, Jewish criminals now have the option of going to Israel, which will then immediately grant citizenship to them and so won’t extradite them at all. I think all of us can name a few high-profile Jewish criminals who did this.

    Israel both extradites people and tries Israeli citizens for crimes committed abroad:

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/israeli-policy-on-extradition

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    Israel both extradites people and tries Israeli citizens for crimes committed abroad:
     
    Except when it doesn't. A web search for "Israel extradition" is interesting. Among the top hits:

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Is-there-tension-between-US-and-Israel-over-extradition-of-JCC-bomb-threat-suspect-488778
    Israel Refuses to Extradite Alleged War Criminal Wanted in Argentina
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.786589

    Do you have any statistics on extradition requests made to Israel?
    , @Hippopotamusdrome

    Israel both extradites people and tries Israeli citizens for crimes committed abroad

     

    With some notable exceptions.

    Israel denies US request to extradite teen arrested for JCC bomb threats

     

    Israel Bars Extradition
    Israel will not extradite a senior air force officer to the United States for questioning about his alleged involvement in the Jonathan Pollard spy case

     

    The Sheinbein Saga and the Evolution of Israel’s Extradition Law

     

  87. @Karl E M
    Not to be disrespectful; but Jeet Heer your article shows you have little in the way of knowledge of 20th century history. Beyond that you don't seem to grasp the concept of "define". One can only wonder if you are simply attempting to sow the seeds of discourse and division by propagating ignorance.

    You state "I mean, from the perspective of the Current Year, who were the real Nazis on September 1, 1939? Those who wanted Europe united under the leadership of a forward-thinking German Chancellor? Or those bigoted xenophobic Borats who wanted to be left alone in their own country?"

    Do you even know what a Nazi is? The National Socialist German Workers' Party were globalists, true; but they wanted the world as one nation, Hitler's Germany. They did not want other nations to exist as such in their ideology of a global nation, hence their concept of Lebensraum and them starting a war of conquest.

    Let's not forget the communism touted by the National "Socialist" German Workers' Party. The Nazi leadership were heavily influenced by the writings of Karl Marx and supported his theories. They pretty much lived up to their own name, Nazis.

    You state Adolph Hitler was "a forward-thinking German Chancellor" who sought a "Europe united". How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being "forward-thinking"? How is sending tens of millions of Europeans to death camps uniting Europe?

    You mock those who "wanted to be left alone in their own country" as being "bigoted xenophobic Borats". You don't bother to mention the Nazis that came into their country did so by bombing and machine gunning Poles to death and sending survivors to work in forced labor camps; often separating families in the process.

    As to you not grasping the concept of "define", you state:
    "Here, Trump is defining the West not based on ideals like democracy and liberty, but atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship."

    Did President Trump say that Poland's brutal fighting during WW2 and throughout history is "defining the West"? No, he did not. Only you Jeet, make that claim. This is what he said:
    "We have to remember that our defense is not just a commitment of money, it is a commitment of will. Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have. The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders? Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?"

    Clearly President Trump was talking about cultures defending themselves; and not narrowly defining them as you falsely claim.

    You state Adolph Hitler was “a forward-thinking German Chancellor” who sought a “Europe united”. How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being “forward-thinking”?

    Every historian now accepts that Hitler never wanted to move West and go to war with Britain and France. There was no reason for the German-Polish dispute to blossom into WW2. The general European war that began in 1939 was mainly the project of FDR.

    Herbert Hoover:

    http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2012/05/poland-as-pawn-hoover-identifies.html

    Hoover would document his conversations with the various people he met with. An example is provided of Hoover’s meeting with Kennedy on May 15, 1945. Kennedy indicated he had over 900 dispatches which he could not print without consent of the U.S. Government. He hoped one day to receive such permission as it was Kennedy’s intention to write a book that would:

    …put an entirely different color on the process of how America got into the war and would prove the betrayal of the American people by Franklin D, Roosevelt.

    …Roosevelt and Bullitt were the major factors in the British making their guarantees to Poland and becoming involved in the war. Kennedy said that Bullitt, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the Poles not to make terms with the Germans and that he Kennedy, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the British to make guarantees to the Poles.

    He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.

    Kennedy said that if it had not been for Roosevelt the British would not have made this most gigantic blunder in history.

    Kennedy told me that he thought Roosevelt was in communication with Churchill, who was the leader of the opposition to Chamberlain, before Chamberlain was thrown out of office….

    James Forrestal, Under Secretary of the Navy, documented in his diaries a substantially similar conversation with Kennedy.

    Respected mainstream liberal Zionist Jewish historian tells the same story with a predictably different spin:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1G7H48SQQAXD8/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1557780218

    On foreign policy, he shows Roosevelt as *the* Machiavellian power player of the century. While outwardly he professed only peaceful intentions, it was his diplomats who secretly pushed Poland to fight Germany, and Britain to back her up. He then worked tirelessly, using both diplomatic and military means, before and after the US officially entered the war, to weaken Germany and ensure that there would be no peace short of Germany’s utter destruction. For example, Herzstein writes:

    “In the bitter words of Joseph P. Kennedy, uttered at a later time, ‘neither the French nor the British would have made Poland a cause of war if it had not been for the constant needling from Washington.’ On another occasion, Kennedy blamed [Roosevelt's ambassador to France, William C.] Bullitt for the outbreak of hostilities. Polish and French documents bear out much of Kennedy’s charge.” (p. 297)

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    You need better history books my friend..

    To your comment: "Every historian now accepts that Hitler never wanted to move West and go to war with Britain and France."

    First, Hitler invaded Austria, Czechoslovakia then Poland, all to the EAST. After Hitler invaded Poland, Britain and France declared war on Germany in accordance with the 1939 Anglo-Polish Agreement they signed without FDR or any American representative present.

    Second, Hitler had every intention of fighting France as retribution for the humiliating Treaty Of Versailles. He even mentions it in his book Mein Kumpf.

    "In 'Mein Kampf,' Hitler had called for the destruction of France, a country referred to, at various points, as the 'irreconcilable mortal enemy,' 'the most terrible enemy,' and 'the mortal enemy of our nation.'" {source http://theconversation.com/the-curious-history-of-mein-kampf-in-france-58196 }

    I would take Hitler's own words of his hatred of France based upon his later actions over the rather ill informed "Every historian" you referenced.

    Hitler considered the British part of the Aryan race that would eventually take up his side as an ally. That's why he did not plan on going to war with Britain. {ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_propaganda_and_the_United_Kingdom }

    As to your other comment: "There was no reason for the German-Polish dispute to blossom into WW2. The general European war that began in 1939 was mainly the project of FDR."

    "German-Polish 'DISPUTE'"!!! What are you talking about? Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin agreed to the Hitler-Stalin Pact dividing up Poland between them on August 23rd, 1939, a week prior to the German invasion. {source http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-hitler-stalin-pact } How is an INVASION by two separate countries a "DISPUTE"?

    I have to laugh at your baseless allegations against FDR as the cause of the European War. Your evidence is limited to your statement: "Kennedy indicated he had over 900 dispatches which he could not print without consent of the U.S. Government." which is undocumented hearsay, nothing more.

    You go on to say Britain and France only declared war on Germany due to pressure from FDR, a claim you provided no actual evidence to support. In contrast I offer you the following:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Polish_military_alliance

    http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/History/polandbetrayal.htm

    This is interesting: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/britain-and-france-declare-war-on-germany

    Your baseless claim also neglects to mention how FDR was responsible for both Francisco Franco's 1936-39 Spanish Civil War in Europe as well as neglecting Benito Mussolini's 1935 invasion of Ethiopia.
    {refs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abyssinia_Crisis }

    Not to mention you failed to explain how FDR started the Second Sino-Japanese War in the Pacific theater over four years before the attack on Pearl Harbor. {ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War }
  88. Jeet Heer’s name is easy to remember, that’s the only nice thing I can say about him. Jeet Heer is an anti-White interloper Asian of the worst sort.

    Jeet Heer is a physically ugly non-European. Heer’s mug is highly repulsive. We should not discount the sheer malevolency towards Europeans generated within some Third Worlders by the gruesome ugliness of most Third Worlders.

    European Christians are hated by Third Worlders for many reasons. The Third Worlders know that they are, for the most part, ugly as all hell. Jeet Heer’s jealousy of aesthetically pleasing European Christians and hatred of European Christians leads him to push for more nation-wrecking mass immigration into European Christian nations.

    Jeet Heer should be encouraged to relocate permanently back to the Third World.

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    @BradinIN
    You're really going for the Marx brothers-type silly humor with that strange photo you included.

    Is that a man? Is that a woman? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? It’s——–Jeet Heer?????

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  90. Most everything I hear coming out of Poland, Central and Eastern Europe, Russia is good, sensible. Most everything I hear coming out of Western Europe, UK, Canada is terrible.

    Polish people, Slovaks, Hungarians are sensible about mass Muslim migration invasions, sensible about family, culture, politics.

    Have others noticed that no one makes jokes about dumb Polacks these days?

    It’s the Germans – especially that childless hag German Chancellor that are dumb.

    Now tens of thousands of spoiled Leftists living in their moms basements are rioting opposing “Globalism”, “Capitalism” only their causes are global warming, global rights of unrestricted migration for Muslim rapists.

    What #*$*#( idiots.

    East Germany in the 1960s, 70s and 80s was a much better place.

    Did other readers here like the movie “Goodbye Lenin” about the final days of Socialist East Germany and the nostalgia of Osties?

    I love this movie:

    Goodbye Lenin

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  91. I mean, from the perspective of the Current Year, who were the real Nazis on September 1, 1939? Those who wanted Europe united under the leadership of a forward-thinking German Chancellor? Or those bigoted xenophobic Borats who wanted to be left alone in their own country?

    Surprisingly many commenters on unz.com would agree with second option. There is a group of commenters that appears to have missed the fact that WW2 is over and are still fighting Hitler’s war, most often in Anatoly Karlin’s blog comments section.

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  92. @Rod1963
    These speeches are for the public. What the pols say behind closed doors is what matters and all we can do is judge them by their actual policies they implement.

    The fact is we are in no shape to militarily aid any European country. To put a division over there would strain our logistical capability like crazy since we're already have two ongoing fights.

    This is also why Trumps bloviating on NK is so much crap as well. It's for the dolts in D.C.

    This is not to say we're not going try and topple Putin via economic destabilization, we will try but he already knows it since the Ruskies have had penetrated our intel agencies for the last 50 years. The Chinese are just behind them in that.

    In all probability we'll probably intervene in Sweden when it collapses from the Muzzie immigrants that are tearing it apart to the point the chief of Swedish police is begging for help.

    BTW it was England who set up Poland, the Brits promised them they'd protect then they reneged. Anyhow Poland was dead meat once Hitler set his eyes on it.

    BTW it was England who set up Poland, the Brits promised them they’d protect then they reneged.

    In fairness to the English, the previous time they guaranteed the protection of a continental ally (Belgium) 25 years earlier, it cost them 750K dead and 1.6 mil wounded. Every British politician knew the English people had no stomach for another industrial meat grinder like that. Even so, England (along with France) did declare war on Germany on September 3rd, 1939 because Germany ignored their ultimatum to cease operations in Poland.

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  93. @Opinionator
    Things they don't teach you in school...

    "The Madagascar Plan"

    Rademacher recommended on 3 June 1940 that Madagascar should be made available as a destination for the Jews of Europe. With Adolf Hitler's approval, Adolf Eichmann released a memorandum on 15 August 1940 calling for the resettlement of a million Jews per year for four years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

    See also the "1933 Transfer Agreement"

    “The Madagascar Plan” Madagascar should be made available as a destination for the Jews of Europe

    The capitulation of the III Reich on May 8th should be the most important holiday of Madagascar.

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  94. @anony-mouse
    There were no 'guestworkers' in Communist countries after WWII because Communism was so inefficient. Ergo no 'family chain' immigration to get things started

    Ergo no ‘family chain’ immigration to get things started

    I’m not sure these “family chain” immigration theories get us anywhere. Who allowed the immigration in the first place? Who could send them all back right now?

    There’s lots more to Hungary and Poland than just the economics of communism, including the idea that communists had to build walls to keep people in, rather than out.

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  95. @whorefinder
    Vox Day has said that, quite frankly, communism has now proven to be less destructive than corporatism/feminism/American capitalism.

    I think it's more along the lines that the people of Eastern Europe are still led by a generation who had their childhood under communism and are enjoying freedom and independence because of it.

    Vox Day has said that, quite frankly, communism has now proven to be less destructive than corporatism/feminism/American capitalism.

    The West has corporatism yes, but it’s also got socialism, which is communism (TM) lite. It’s the cancer, rather than the car crash.

    I’m not sure that it does much good to imagine that problem that hit all white nations (for a lack of a better way to say it) is actually different. People are discussing Cultural Marxism for some very good reasons.

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  96. @Steve Sailer
    Google:

    Jeet Heer

    All of his pictures look like that.

    Except the ones where he, supposedly a grown ass male, allows himself to he photographed reading his extensive collection of Archie comics.

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  97. @whorefinder
    She would reject him. She thinks she deserves Ryan Gosling or, if she has to settle, one of the actors who dated Mindy Kaling on The Mindy Project.

    South Asian women are terrible ball-cutters and are very loud in their criticisms of any men showing interest in them, as many South Asian men will tell you (and apparently this movie demonstrates).

    The problem is that such behavior is only tolerated with women in the top .1% of looks, and even then it is frowned upon. South Asian women do it as a class, and most (if not all) of them are not in that .1%. As a result, they get even fewer suitors than their subpar looks would normally get if they were merely pleasant. No normal to meek guy wants to be castigated publicly as South Asian women will do to them.

    South Asian women (really Asian women of all stripes) are pretty horrible ball busters to anyone not willing to put them in line rather quickly.

    That first shit test is going to set the tone for the rest of the relationship.

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  98. @Intelligent Dasein
    For some reason everybody seems to have this completely backwards. Trump stabbed the Alt-Right in the back with his speech in Poland and then urinated on our corpse like a Russian prostitute. First, he started in with the tough-guy talk against Russia, condemning Russia for its "destabilizing activities: and for supporting "terrorist" regimes like Syria and Iran. Then he said---in Poland, mind you---that America stands firmly by Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty.

    In Poland.

    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but giving war guarantees to Poland has not worked out particularly well in the past. Then there is also the minor point that Trump got elected in part by promising to pull us out of an "obsolete" NATO, something I wholeheartedly endorse.

    This Poland speech was pure neocon bilge. This was his Saudi Arabian speech on stilts. There seems to be no extent to which he will not go to play his base for suckers. I'm getting very angry here.

    How sad do you have to be to try at every opportunity to declare what a victim you are? Lmao

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  99. @Autochthon
    I'm glad at least one other person sees what is going on.

    You will definitely find other eeyores here at iSteve.

    As far as what is “really going on”, your track record of predictions isnt exactly one I’d take seriously.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    You are absolutely dreamy when you scold me like the naughty boy I am, Mr. Hanson. Do go on; I've been very skeptical recently, and I need a thorough going over such as only your dominant superiority can provide. Regale me and the myriad other realists who read Steve's blog with your wisdom and insight about what's really, really going on.
  100. @Stealth
    Pretty much. Everybody wants to get to where the white people are.

    With so many untapped white folks, Poland is kind of like a pristine oil field. That oil had better submit.

    Yes, because third worlders are unwilling, and more than likely, unable to create the type of society they prefer to live in. So, they glom onto ours and will continue to do so until either they are stopped or we are overwhelmed and drowned.

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  101. @Intelligent Dasein
    For some reason everybody seems to have this completely backwards. Trump stabbed the Alt-Right in the back with his speech in Poland and then urinated on our corpse like a Russian prostitute. First, he started in with the tough-guy talk against Russia, condemning Russia for its "destabilizing activities: and for supporting "terrorist" regimes like Syria and Iran. Then he said---in Poland, mind you---that America stands firmly by Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty.

    In Poland.

    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but giving war guarantees to Poland has not worked out particularly well in the past. Then there is also the minor point that Trump got elected in part by promising to pull us out of an "obsolete" NATO, something I wholeheartedly endorse.

    This Poland speech was pure neocon bilge. This was his Saudi Arabian speech on stilts. There seems to be no extent to which he will not go to play his base for suckers. I'm getting very angry here.

    I agree, that speech was a shitshow, except for the end about national identity, which I assume was written by Stephen Miller. (The rest was written by John McCain) If Trump morphs into a full-blown neocon, he’s a one-termer and a sad, insignificant footnote to history. And I will vote third party for the rest of my life.

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  102. @Dave Pinsen
    No one in the prestige media seems to connect the dots from the conceit that Western values are universal values and the ill-fated attempts to turn Iraq and Afghanistan into stable democracies.

    From my observation, during the Reagan administration, anyone who advocated exporting democracy to the middle east would have been laughed at. I first noticed the idea of exporting democracy with the book, “Democratic Imperative Exporting the American Revolution” by Gregory Fossedal in 1989. Also, the ones who advocated exporting democracy also favored open immigration. The Iraq and Afghan Wars, which included promoting democracy, were liberal wars:
    People are alike all over and want the same things and are capable of the same things. I remember Rush Limbaugh opining on the supposed human desire to be free. One dissident was Michael Savage, who asked, “How can we export democracy to a people who have never heard of the Magna Carta”? The debacles in both countries certainly hurt the campaign of Jeb! in the 2016 Republican primaries.

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  103. @kihowi
    Because I am a collector of dishonest reasoning I'd like to hear his views on the Indian independence movement. I bet he has a very logical sounding reason for why that didn't have anything to do with loyalties and kinship.

    Also the caste system.

    Because I am a collector of dishonest reasoning

    Boy, talk about an embarrassment of riches in the current year.

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  104. @Art Deco
    He wasn’t exactly wrong about that, Jewish criminals now have the option of going to Israel, which will then immediately grant citizenship to them and so won’t extradite them at all. I think all of us can name a few high-profile Jewish criminals who did this.

    Israel both extradites people and tries Israeli citizens for crimes committed abroad:

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/israeli-policy-on-extradition

    Israel both extradites people and tries Israeli citizens for crimes committed abroad:

    Except when it doesn’t. A web search for “Israel extradition” is interesting. Among the top hits:

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Is-there-tension-between-US-and-Israel-over-extradition-of-JCC-bomb-threat-suspect-488778

    Israel Refuses to Extradite Alleged War Criminal Wanted in Argentina

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.786589

    Do you have any statistics on extradition requests made to Israel?

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    What does Jewish law say about turning Jews over to non-Jewish authorities?
  105. @JohnnyD
    Forgive me for not having Jeet Heer's intellect, but I don't see how immigration restriction and democracy are incompatible.

    Forgive me for not having Jeet Heer’s intellect, but I don’t see how immigration restriction and democracy are incompatible.

    Jeet Heer didn’t make that point at all.

    Jeet Heer’s point was that Trump’s speech didn’t emphasize the importance of democracy or free elections and the speech didn’t define the west in those terms. Heer is completely right in that respect.

    Heer is suspicious that Trump is defining the west in terms of ethnicity, kinship, religion, and tribe, and that seems to be a good suspicion.

    BTW, even the open borders fanatics say that democracy is likely not compatible with mass immigration. From https://openborders.info/blog/billion-immigrants-change-american-polity/:
    large scale immigration to America would cause:

    Certain American ideals would die of their own increasing impracticality, e.g., “equality of opportunity,” the social safety net, one person, one vote, or non-discrimination in employment.

    Those are some epic caveats. That’s a surprising bout of honesty from the open borders crowd. Nathan Smith can still say democracy and non-discrimination in employment are likely incompatible with mostly open borders, yet still fully advocate a full steam ahead push for open borders. Even most immigration advocates would be horrified to consider an end to the American ideals mentioned.

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  106. Once the last Eastern Europeans that remember communism are gone, will their progeny fall victim to the American multicultural mind virus?

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    Once the last Eastern Europeans that remember communism are gone, will their progeny fall victim to the American multicultural mind virus?
     
    It depends on what happens next and how quickly. It's possibility for sure. But if Germany is chaos thanks to the wonders of their diversity, I think it might be a harder sell.
    , @Tom-in-VA
    I think that's one reason why Victor Orban in Hungary has clamped down on the university that Soros wanted to open there.
    , @Lex
    In 2015 parliamentary elections parties sceptical of policies coming from Brussels and Berlin got over 60 percent of votes among people ages 18-29(PiS, KUKIZ, KORWIN: https://v.wpimg.pl/MTQ0MTY5JD1-f2JiawA1YmEEYj13Qj16IVxiNXZTYj4hVSp7agB1YmUfOj08XmM-IVUq/ ).
  107. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Gandhi was the real Nazi.

    British Imperialists were all about ‘inclusion’ and ‘minority rights’.

    ———-

    The New Solidarity in Poland.

    Peaceful Non-Violent Non-Cooperation

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  108. @res

    Israel both extradites people and tries Israeli citizens for crimes committed abroad:
     
    Except when it doesn't. A web search for "Israel extradition" is interesting. Among the top hits:

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Is-there-tension-between-US-and-Israel-over-extradition-of-JCC-bomb-threat-suspect-488778
    Israel Refuses to Extradite Alleged War Criminal Wanted in Argentina
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.786589

    Do you have any statistics on extradition requests made to Israel?

    What does Jewish law say about turning Jews over to non-Jewish authorities?

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  109. @reiner Tor
    He thought a Jewish state wouldn't actually mean all Jews living there together, instead it'd mean Jews having a refuge whenever they do mischief. He wasn't exactly wrong about that, Jewish criminals now have the option of going to Israel, which will then immediately grant citizenship to them and so won't extradite them at all. I think all of us can name a few high-profile Jewish criminals who did this.

    What Hitler wanted instead was essentially a huge ghetto or even concentration camp under the surveillance of the SS or some other similar Nazi organisations, and though he probably didn't have very firm plans on this, it would probably have led to the extermination of the Jews anyway.

    In any event, Hitler's opposition to the existence of the Jewish state (in fact, to the very existence of the Jewish people, or rather, to the existence of any Jews anywhere) was both morally and politically wrong. You need to provide your enemies with some accommodation, a possibility to reconcile themselves to your rule, and denying them the right to exist made it impossible. (It is also morally wrong. Being morally so wrong will create political difficulties, too, for example the fact that many in the Abwehr were double agents for the Allies could be traced back to this.) Even if Jews (most Jews, at any rate) were quite unwilling to come to terms with his Germany, he made it totally impossible even for the few who were willing to do so. (Obviously some racialist Zionists had the inclination to support his rule as a way to force German Jews into Palestine, and some German Jews even were willing to make the extraordinary sacrifice of supporting Nazism even in spite of the anti-Semitic measures until perhaps 1935.)

    In any event, Hitler’s opposition to the existence of the Jewish state (in fact, to the very existence of the Jewish people, or rather, to the existence of any Jews anywhere) was both morally and politically wrong.

    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition to the existence of a Jewish state or to the existence of any Jews anywhere? If so, could you point us to some?

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    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition to the existence of a Jewish state or to the existence of any Jews anywhere? If so, could you point us to some?

    This game of yours is getting a bit old. There is this place called Auschwitz, and there was this fellow named Hajj Amin al Husseini.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition to the existence of a Jewish state

     



    Souvenir coin with a swastika and Star of David owned by a young German Jewish girl
    ... Commemorative coin issued to encourage immigration that belonged to 8 year old Mara Vishniac, a young Jewish girl who left Nazi Germany with her family in 1938-1940. The coin was struck in 1934 to memorialize the journey of Baron von Mildenstein, a Nazi party member, to Palestine. The trip resulted in a pro-Zionist report encouraging Jewish emigration, published in the nationalist newspaper, Der Angriff ...

     

  110. Man, Jeet Heer has really let himself go since he retired from the Yankees. And apparently changed the spelling of his name.

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  111. @Steve Sailer
    Google:

    Jeet Heer

    All of his pictures look like that.

    This greasy babu’s name has always sounded to me like a question.

    “Jeet here?”

    “No, I ate somewhere else.”

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  112. @Jack Hanson
    You will definitely find other eeyores here at iSteve.

    As far as what is "really going on", your track record of predictions isnt exactly one I'd take seriously.

    You are absolutely dreamy when you scold me like the naughty boy I am, Mr. Hanson. Do go on; I’ve been very skeptical recently, and I need a thorough going over such as only your dominant superiority can provide. Regale me and the myriad other realists who read Steve’s blog with your wisdom and insight about what’s really, really going on.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    First put down the snark before you hurt yourself more and lie to me again about how you thought Trump would win.
  113. What gives this Indian the right to comment on the American president? If he wants to complain about Modi, fine. I keep my mouth shut about him. It’s not my business.

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  114. @Massimo Heitor
    Black Lives Matters is built on atavistic loyalties like shared kinship and ethnicity, US immigration activists waving Mexican flags are organized on atavistic loyalties, Israel is chartered on atavistic loyalties, Japan, China, Gulf States, actually pretty much everywhere is built on atavistic loyalties including all of Europe and the US until very recent history in which point came a moral demand that such loyalties be completely reversed.

    It's almost like that Clash of Civilizations book was right.

    Some people profit when our atavistic loyalties are abandoned.

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  115. @Thea
    Once the last Eastern Europeans that remember communism are gone, will their progeny fall victim to the American multicultural mind virus?

    Once the last Eastern Europeans that remember communism are gone, will their progeny fall victim to the American multicultural mind virus?

    It depends on what happens next and how quickly. It’s possibility for sure. But if Germany is chaos thanks to the wonders of their diversity, I think it might be a harder sell.

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  116. @Steve Sailer
    Google:

    Jeet Heer

    All of his pictures look like that.

    That’s a He?

    I thought it was some sort of Diesel Dyke.

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    • Replies: @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    It's exactly as you guessed it to be, for it has strapped one on, albeit in a form too subtle for the dimwitted... hope you will enjoy the bumpy ride!
  117. @Intelligent Dasein
    For some reason everybody seems to have this completely backwards. Trump stabbed the Alt-Right in the back with his speech in Poland and then urinated on our corpse like a Russian prostitute. First, he started in with the tough-guy talk against Russia, condemning Russia for its "destabilizing activities: and for supporting "terrorist" regimes like Syria and Iran. Then he said---in Poland, mind you---that America stands firmly by Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty.

    In Poland.

    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but giving war guarantees to Poland has not worked out particularly well in the past. Then there is also the minor point that Trump got elected in part by promising to pull us out of an "obsolete" NATO, something I wholeheartedly endorse.

    This Poland speech was pure neocon bilge. This was his Saudi Arabian speech on stilts. There seems to be no extent to which he will not go to play his base for suckers. I'm getting very angry here.

    He is moving the Overton window.

    We can now talk about “western” people having a culture, homeland and right to exist.

    He is not really fighting for the white race but he is opening the door for those who will.

    His son seems to get it but knows it’s too soon to let it all spell out.

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    For Western culture to survive, it will need the help of those fighting for European (i.e. white) posterity (or at least against those seeking to extinguish it).

    At this point being too specific about which it is is beside the point.
  118. @dr kill
    Hahaha, even Jeet married a white broad. No SAPping around for our boy Jeet! How does he square that circle?

    He would merely say something like “love has no color”/ “love has no boundaries” and let it be.

    Or, if under pressure y an SJW witchhunt, he would undertake a thorough public study as to why he married outside his race and whether he should be given 40 lashes, or, in the alternative, why he should be held up as a man who overcame the white-christian-patriarchy brainwashing.

    The SJW hamster is a resilient one. Look how long Race Denialism has been in force in the West—50-60 years in some circles, all while simultaneously castigating White People as The Most Evil Thing Eva.

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    He certainly scooped up a real looker. Thanks, Jeet!
  119. @Intelligent Dasein
    For some reason everybody seems to have this completely backwards. Trump stabbed the Alt-Right in the back with his speech in Poland and then urinated on our corpse like a Russian prostitute. First, he started in with the tough-guy talk against Russia, condemning Russia for its "destabilizing activities: and for supporting "terrorist" regimes like Syria and Iran. Then he said---in Poland, mind you---that America stands firmly by Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty.

    In Poland.

    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but giving war guarantees to Poland has not worked out particularly well in the past. Then there is also the minor point that Trump got elected in part by promising to pull us out of an "obsolete" NATO, something I wholeheartedly endorse.

    This Poland speech was pure neocon bilge. This was his Saudi Arabian speech on stilts. There seems to be no extent to which he will not go to play his base for suckers. I'm getting very angry here.

    Look fam, don’t despair.

    We went from Don’t ask, don’t tell to cake bakers losing their business and grown men in little girls locker rooms in one generation. Society can go back and farther just as quickly. The trick will be to make it last. Only will happen if God is on our side.

    You may not remember that gays in the 90s felt defeated and disappointed by Clinton.

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  120. @Autochthon
    You are absolutely dreamy when you scold me like the naughty boy I am, Mr. Hanson. Do go on; I've been very skeptical recently, and I need a thorough going over such as only your dominant superiority can provide. Regale me and the myriad other realists who read Steve's blog with your wisdom and insight about what's really, really going on.

    First put down the snark before you hurt yourself more and lie to me again about how you thought Trump would win.

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  121. @Opinionator
    In any event, Hitler’s opposition to the existence of the Jewish state (in fact, to the very existence of the Jewish people, or rather, to the existence of any Jews anywhere) was both morally and politically wrong.

    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition to the existence of a Jewish state or to the existence of any Jews anywhere? If so, could you point us to some?

    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition to the existence of a Jewish state or to the existence of any Jews anywhere? If so, could you point us to some?

    This game of yours is getting a bit old. There is this place called Auschwitz, and there was this fellow named Hajj Amin al Husseini.

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    And what does Auschwitz have to do with his question?
  122. @Art Deco
    He wasn’t exactly wrong about that, Jewish criminals now have the option of going to Israel, which will then immediately grant citizenship to them and so won’t extradite them at all. I think all of us can name a few high-profile Jewish criminals who did this.

    Israel both extradites people and tries Israeli citizens for crimes committed abroad:

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/israeli-policy-on-extradition

    Israel both extradites people and tries Israeli citizens for crimes committed abroad

    With some notable exceptions.

    Israel denies US request to extradite teen arrested for JCC bomb threats

    Israel Bars Extradition
    Israel will not extradite a senior air force officer to the United States for questioning about his alleged involvement in the Jonathan Pollard spy case

    The Sheinbein Saga and the Evolution of Israel’s Extradition Law

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  123. @BradinIN
    You're really going for the Marx brothers-type silly humor with that strange photo you included.

    My thought was: who shared their meth with Aunt Jemima?

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  124. Atavistic, literally, means “having to do with your great-grandfather”. I never met any of my great-grandfathers but from all reports, they were good guys and I’m inclined to think well of them. So I take atavistic to be a compliment.

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  125. @snorlax
    A radical anti-Zionist environmentalist who devoted his life to the dream of a Europe without borders. A militant atheist who worked tirelessly to build bridges to the Muslim community. A vegetarian and great admirer of Islamic and Asian civilization who didn't hesitate to deliver a muscular response to Russian meddling.

    What(/s) not to like?

    Don’t forget that Hitler was an illegal alien from a backwards, medieval state living in the shadows and facing deportation in modern, first-world Germany.

    #AmnestySiegHeil

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  126. @Karl E M
    Not to be disrespectful; but Jeet Heer your article shows you have little in the way of knowledge of 20th century history. Beyond that you don't seem to grasp the concept of "define". One can only wonder if you are simply attempting to sow the seeds of discourse and division by propagating ignorance.

    You state "I mean, from the perspective of the Current Year, who were the real Nazis on September 1, 1939? Those who wanted Europe united under the leadership of a forward-thinking German Chancellor? Or those bigoted xenophobic Borats who wanted to be left alone in their own country?"

    Do you even know what a Nazi is? The National Socialist German Workers' Party were globalists, true; but they wanted the world as one nation, Hitler's Germany. They did not want other nations to exist as such in their ideology of a global nation, hence their concept of Lebensraum and them starting a war of conquest.

    Let's not forget the communism touted by the National "Socialist" German Workers' Party. The Nazi leadership were heavily influenced by the writings of Karl Marx and supported his theories. They pretty much lived up to their own name, Nazis.

    You state Adolph Hitler was "a forward-thinking German Chancellor" who sought a "Europe united". How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being "forward-thinking"? How is sending tens of millions of Europeans to death camps uniting Europe?

    You mock those who "wanted to be left alone in their own country" as being "bigoted xenophobic Borats". You don't bother to mention the Nazis that came into their country did so by bombing and machine gunning Poles to death and sending survivors to work in forced labor camps; often separating families in the process.

    As to you not grasping the concept of "define", you state:
    "Here, Trump is defining the West not based on ideals like democracy and liberty, but atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship."

    Did President Trump say that Poland's brutal fighting during WW2 and throughout history is "defining the West"? No, he did not. Only you Jeet, make that claim. This is what he said:
    "We have to remember that our defense is not just a commitment of money, it is a commitment of will. Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have. The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders? Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?"

    Clearly President Trump was talking about cultures defending themselves; and not narrowly defining them as you falsely claim.

    You state Adolph Hitler was “a forward-thinking German Chancellor” who sought a “Europe united”. How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being “forward-thinking”? How is sending tens of millions of Europeans to death camps uniting Europe?

    Truly insightful counterpoints. So compelling, in fact, that one would almost think Sailer was being facetious in describing Hitler in such a manner!

    . . .

    Good god! Unz needs to add a “Sperg” tag for commenters like this ridiculous specimen.

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    HA HA HA! I was going to make a snide rebuttal; but the fact is you are correct. In my defense, the colors on my monitor barely show contrast between the comments of Jeet Heer and Steve Sailer. In point of fact, I did not even know of Steve Sailer or his portion of the article until you mentioned his name. I saw the box outline that Heer's comments are in; but no color contrast noticeable enough for me to note that the remainder of the article was a rebuttal by Sailer. That's why I addressed all my comments to Heer.

    I was brought to this article via Twitter and am not familiar with the publication nor its' writers.

    Yes, you are correct. I made a mistake. Your "ridiculous specimen" comment is not appreciated however.
  127. @Thea
    Once the last Eastern Europeans that remember communism are gone, will their progeny fall victim to the American multicultural mind virus?

    I think that’s one reason why Victor Orban in Hungary has clamped down on the university that Soros wanted to open there.

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    George Soros is going to clamp one on Victor Orban... have a little patience!
  128. @Zoodles
    They are trying to deconstruct the entire idea that western civilisation exists.

    Soon it will be considered to be a microaggression to talk about western culture.

    They’re not just trying, they’ve been largely successful in large swaths of Western civilization itself.

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  129. @Thea
    He is moving the Overton window.

    We can now talk about "western" people having a culture, homeland and right to exist.

    He is not really fighting for the white race but he is opening the door for those who will.

    His son seems to get it but knows it's too soon to let it all spell out.

    For Western culture to survive, it will need the help of those fighting for European (i.e. white) posterity (or at least against those seeking to extinguish it).

    At this point being too specific about which it is is beside the point.

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  130. @anon
    Good point. On the other hand, what would we do without a steady influx of obese comic book fans who have spent most of their time since coming to the West bitching about the West and the people who were here when he got here?

    It’s the job Americans won’t do!

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  131. @Art Deco
    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition to the existence of a Jewish state or to the existence of any Jews anywhere? If so, could you point us to some?

    This game of yours is getting a bit old. There is this place called Auschwitz, and there was this fellow named Hajj Amin al Husseini.

    And what does Auschwitz have to do with his question?

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    For that matter, his citing Hajj Amin al Husseini doesn't address the question.
    , @Art Deco
    His question was:

    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition ... to the existence of any Jews anywhere?


    I dunno, Bill. Cannot imagine what the relevance might be.
  132. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    So, just to get this straight, an Indian writer says its wrong for Trump and his white supporters to have “atavistic loyalties” in the country they and their ancestors built, but not wrong for an Indian writer to publish attack pieces in atavistic loyalty for Indians who wants to come to the US, bring their family, and take a chunk of what the ancestors of those white men built?

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  133. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Should only Jews have covenant with their territory as sacred homeland?

    Should rest of humanity have no such territorial covenant? Should all land outside Israel be open territory for nomads, migrants, refugees, immigrants, and invaders?

    Should it be particularism for Israel but universalism for all the rest? Globalist agenda permeates all the world but passes over only Israel?

    Why shouldn’t each people have special covenant to their land like Jews have with Israel?

    Well, what is the effect of the Israeli Covenant? Israel remains firmly in the control of Jews.

    If other nations had their own ‘zionism’, they would have firm control of their own nations that would be less penetrable to foreign elements or minority interests.

    Poles are content with Poland for Poles and Israel for Jews, but Jews are not content with such arrangement since they want control over other nations.

    So, what is fine in Israel is suddenly ‘nazi’ when practiced elsewhere.

    Also, globalists are not really so worried about Poland or Hungary per se. On their own, neither nation is big fish.
    Rather, their resistance to globalist demands sets an inspiring template for other nations that might take note and emulate… especially as it’s david standing up to the goliath of Germany-France-UK backed by globalists.

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  134. @fnn

    You state Adolph Hitler was “a forward-thinking German Chancellor” who sought a “Europe united”. How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being “forward-thinking”?
     
    Every historian now accepts that Hitler never wanted to move West and go to war with Britain and France. There was no reason for the German-Polish dispute to blossom into WW2. The general European war that began in 1939 was mainly the project of FDR.

    Herbert Hoover:
    http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2012/05/poland-as-pawn-hoover-identifies.html


    Hoover would document his conversations with the various people he met with. An example is provided of Hoover’s meeting with Kennedy on May 15, 1945. Kennedy indicated he had over 900 dispatches which he could not print without consent of the U.S. Government. He hoped one day to receive such permission as it was Kennedy’s intention to write a book that would:

    …put an entirely different color on the process of how America got into the war and would prove the betrayal of the American people by Franklin D, Roosevelt.

    …Roosevelt and Bullitt were the major factors in the British making their guarantees to Poland and becoming involved in the war. Kennedy said that Bullitt, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the Poles not to make terms with the Germans and that he Kennedy, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the British to make guarantees to the Poles.

    He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.

    Kennedy said that if it had not been for Roosevelt the British would not have made this most gigantic blunder in history.

    Kennedy told me that he thought Roosevelt was in communication with Churchill, who was the leader of the opposition to Chamberlain, before Chamberlain was thrown out of office….

    James Forrestal, Under Secretary of the Navy, documented in his diaries a substantially similar conversation with Kennedy.
     

    Respected mainstream liberal Zionist Jewish historian tells the same story with a predictably different spin:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1G7H48SQQAXD8/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1557780218

    On foreign policy, he shows Roosevelt as *the* Machiavellian power player of the century. While outwardly he professed only peaceful intentions, it was his diplomats who secretly pushed Poland to fight Germany, and Britain to back her up. He then worked tirelessly, using both diplomatic and military means, before and after the US officially entered the war, to weaken Germany and ensure that there would be no peace short of Germany's utter destruction. For example, Herzstein writes:

    "In the bitter words of Joseph P. Kennedy, uttered at a later time, 'neither the French nor the British would have made Poland a cause of war if it had not been for the constant needling from Washington.' On another occasion, Kennedy blamed [Roosevelt's ambassador to France, William C.] Bullitt for the outbreak of hostilities. Polish and French documents bear out much of Kennedy's charge." (p. 297)
     

    You need better history books my friend..

    To your comment: “Every historian now accepts that Hitler never wanted to move West and go to war with Britain and France.”

    First, Hitler invaded Austria, Czechoslovakia then Poland, all to the EAST. After Hitler invaded Poland, Britain and France declared war on Germany in accordance with the 1939 Anglo-Polish Agreement they signed without FDR or any American representative present.

    Second, Hitler had every intention of fighting France as retribution for the humiliating Treaty Of Versailles. He even mentions it in his book Mein Kumpf.

    “In ‘Mein Kampf,’ Hitler had called for the destruction of France, a country referred to, at various points, as the ‘irreconcilable mortal enemy,’ ‘the most terrible enemy,’ and ‘the mortal enemy of our nation.’” {source http://theconversation.com/the-curious-history-of-mein-kampf-in-france-58196 }

    I would take Hitler’s own words of his hatred of France based upon his later actions over the rather ill informed “Every historian” you referenced.

    Hitler considered the British part of the Aryan race that would eventually take up his side as an ally. That’s why he did not plan on going to war with Britain. {ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_propaganda_and_the_United_Kingdom }

    As to your other comment: “There was no reason for the German-Polish dispute to blossom into WW2. The general European war that began in 1939 was mainly the project of FDR.”

    “German-Polish ‘DISPUTE’”!!! What are you talking about? Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin agreed to the Hitler-Stalin Pact dividing up Poland between them on August 23rd, 1939, a week prior to the German invasion. {source http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-hitler-stalin-pact } How is an INVASION by two separate countries a “DISPUTE”?

    I have to laugh at your baseless allegations against FDR as the cause of the European War. Your evidence is limited to your statement: “Kennedy indicated he had over 900 dispatches which he could not print without consent of the U.S. Government.” which is undocumented hearsay, nothing more.

    You go on to say Britain and France only declared war on Germany due to pressure from FDR, a claim you provided no actual evidence to support. In contrast I offer you the following:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Polish_military_alliance

    http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/History/polandbetrayal.htm

    This is interesting: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/britain-and-france-declare-war-on-germany

    Your baseless claim also neglects to mention how FDR was responsible for both Francisco Franco’s 1936-39 Spanish Civil War in Europe as well as neglecting Benito Mussolini’s 1935 invasion of Ethiopia.
    {refs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abyssinia_Crisis }

    Not to mention you failed to explain how FDR started the Second Sino-Japanese War in the Pacific theater over four years before the attack on Pearl Harbor. {ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War }

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  135. @HEL

    You state Adolph Hitler was “a forward-thinking German Chancellor” who sought a “Europe united”. How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being “forward-thinking”? How is sending tens of millions of Europeans to death camps uniting Europe?

     

    Truly insightful counterpoints. So compelling, in fact, that one would almost think Sailer was being facetious in describing Hitler in such a manner!

    . . .

    Good god! Unz needs to add a "Sperg" tag for commenters like this ridiculous specimen.

    HA HA HA! I was going to make a snide rebuttal; but the fact is you are correct. In my defense, the colors on my monitor barely show contrast between the comments of Jeet Heer and Steve Sailer. In point of fact, I did not even know of Steve Sailer or his portion of the article until you mentioned his name. I saw the box outline that Heer’s comments are in; but no color contrast noticeable enough for me to note that the remainder of the article was a rebuttal by Sailer. That’s why I addressed all my comments to Heer.

    I was brought to this article via Twitter and am not familiar with the publication nor its’ writers.

    Yes, you are correct. I made a mistake. Your “ridiculous specimen” comment is not appreciated however.

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  136. @Barnard
    The globalists are putting The West in scare quotes now? Are they trying to argue the West wasn't built by white Europeans?

    Listen to any BLM activist for your answer to that. According to them, everything in the United States was built on the backs of black slaves.

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  137. @Karl E M
    Not to be disrespectful; but Jeet Heer your article shows you have little in the way of knowledge of 20th century history. Beyond that you don't seem to grasp the concept of "define". One can only wonder if you are simply attempting to sow the seeds of discourse and division by propagating ignorance.

    You state "I mean, from the perspective of the Current Year, who were the real Nazis on September 1, 1939? Those who wanted Europe united under the leadership of a forward-thinking German Chancellor? Or those bigoted xenophobic Borats who wanted to be left alone in their own country?"

    Do you even know what a Nazi is? The National Socialist German Workers' Party were globalists, true; but they wanted the world as one nation, Hitler's Germany. They did not want other nations to exist as such in their ideology of a global nation, hence their concept of Lebensraum and them starting a war of conquest.

    Let's not forget the communism touted by the National "Socialist" German Workers' Party. The Nazi leadership were heavily influenced by the writings of Karl Marx and supported his theories. They pretty much lived up to their own name, Nazis.

    You state Adolph Hitler was "a forward-thinking German Chancellor" who sought a "Europe united". How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being "forward-thinking"? How is sending tens of millions of Europeans to death camps uniting Europe?

    You mock those who "wanted to be left alone in their own country" as being "bigoted xenophobic Borats". You don't bother to mention the Nazis that came into their country did so by bombing and machine gunning Poles to death and sending survivors to work in forced labor camps; often separating families in the process.

    As to you not grasping the concept of "define", you state:
    "Here, Trump is defining the West not based on ideals like democracy and liberty, but atavistic loyalties to territory and shared kinship."

    Did President Trump say that Poland's brutal fighting during WW2 and throughout history is "defining the West"? No, he did not. Only you Jeet, make that claim. This is what he said:
    "We have to remember that our defense is not just a commitment of money, it is a commitment of will. Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have. The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders? Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?"

    Clearly President Trump was talking about cultures defending themselves; and not narrowly defining them as you falsely claim.

    How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being “forward-thinking”?

    As I recall Britain started the war.

    Britain and France declare war on Germany

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    As I recall Britain started the war.

    I gather in your mind those tanks rolling into Poland were just a trifle.
  138. @whorefinder
    He would merely say something like "love has no color"/ "love has no boundaries" and let it be.

    Or, if under pressure y an SJW witchhunt, he would undertake a thorough public study as to why he married outside his race and whether he should be given 40 lashes, or, in the alternative, why he should be held up as a man who overcame the white-christian-patriarchy brainwashing.

    The SJW hamster is a resilient one. Look how long Race Denialism has been in force in the West---50-60 years in some circles, all while simultaneously castigating White People as The Most Evil Thing Eva.

    He certainly scooped up a real looker. Thanks, Jeet!

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  139. @Thea
    Once the last Eastern Europeans that remember communism are gone, will their progeny fall victim to the American multicultural mind virus?

    In 2015 parliamentary elections parties sceptical of policies coming from Brussels and Berlin got over 60 percent of votes among people ages 18-29(PiS, KUKIZ, KORWIN: https://v.wpimg.pl/MTQ0MTY5JD1-f2JiawA1YmEEYj13Qj16IVxiNXZTYj4hVSp7agB1YmUfOj08XmM-IVUq/ ).

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  140. @Bill Jones
    And what does Auschwitz have to do with his question?

    For that matter, his citing Hajj Amin al Husseini doesn’t address the question.

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  141. You recall incorrectly, no disparage intended.

    WW2 in the west really began with Benito Mussolini’s 1935 invasion of Ethiopia followed by Francisco Franco’s 1936-39 Spanish Civil War on the European continent itself.

    As to when Britain, France and Germany {Germany took part in the Spanish Civil War, as did the USSR} began fighting you have to remember the Hitler-Stalin Pact dividing up Poland between them was signed on August 23rd, 1939 which in turn led to the Polish-British Common Defense Pact on August 25.

    Hitler’s planned invasion of Poland was to begin on August 26; but the Polish-British Pact caused Hitler an initial delay. {ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Polish_military_alliance }

    Both sides knew of each others’ pacts, so when Germany invaded Poland on September 1st, 1939, Hitler did so knowing full well that it would involve British involvement to some extent for them to honor their pact with Poland.

    Hitler also knew France and Poland had made the Franco-Polish alliance back in 1921 so France would respond as well. Hitler considered France the natural enemy of Germany {ref: Mein Kumpf} and that war between them was inevitable.

    All this becomes mute points when you take into account Hitler announced his intention to take over Eastern Europe for Lebensraum {i.e. living space} in his 1925 book Mein Kumpf.

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  142. @Opinionator
    In any event, Hitler’s opposition to the existence of the Jewish state (in fact, to the very existence of the Jewish people, or rather, to the existence of any Jews anywhere) was both morally and politically wrong.

    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition to the existence of a Jewish state or to the existence of any Jews anywhere? If so, could you point us to some?

    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition to the existence of a Jewish state

    Souvenir coin with a swastika and Star of David owned by a young German Jewish girl
    … Commemorative coin issued to encourage immigration that belonged to 8 year old Mara Vishniac, a young Jewish girl who left Nazi Germany with her family in 1938-1940. The coin was struck in 1934 to memorialize the journey of Baron von Mildenstein, a Nazi party member, to Palestine. The trip resulted in a pro-Zionist report encouraging Jewish emigration, published in the nationalist newspaper, Der Angriff …

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  143. @Bill Jones
    And what does Auschwitz have to do with his question?

    His question was:

    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition … to the existence of any Jews anywhere?

    I dunno, Bill. Cannot imagine what the relevance might be.

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  144. @Hippopotamusdrome


    How is starting a war that destroyed every city and most towns in Germany being “forward-thinking”?

     

    As I recall Britain started the war.

    Britain and France declare war on Germany

    As I recall Britain started the war.

    I gather in your mind those tanks rolling into Poland were just a trifle.

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  145. @Tiny Duck
    I am watching Fareed Zakaria on Putin influencing the election. This is on CNN. WATCH IT

    You guys are done

    Must you rub salt into the wound? Why can’t you let them fantasize a little? One gets the feeling you won’t be joining the coming revolution to right the wrongs. Watch out for that tiny canard!

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  146. @Anonymous

    You can make the argument that white people don’t have a “right” to be the majority here in the United States,
     
    No you can't. At least you can't make a very good one. Now you might argue that certain portions of the New World should be reserved for other peoples, such as Indian reservations or a so-called black homeland for freed slaves. But the USA was founded by a specific group of Europeans and they are the "our posterity" portion of the founding documents. It is their nation and their birthright.

    The original ownership of the land was negated with brutality and sophistry, so why can’t the sin be repeated using new strategies? A fraudulent deed can never be passed on to the progeny without the aid of a strong arm for it will always fail the validity test…

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  147. @Almost Missouri
    Don't forget that Hitler was an illegal alien from a backwards, medieval state living in the shadows and facing deportation in modern, first-world Germany.

    #AmnestySiegHeil

    How now Sirrah, you speak of Austria?

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  148. @Bill Jones
    That's a He?

    I thought it was some sort of Diesel Dyke.

    It’s exactly as you guessed it to be, for it has strapped one on, albeit in a form too subtle for the dimwitted… hope you will enjoy the bumpy ride!

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  149. @Tom-in-VA
    I think that's one reason why Victor Orban in Hungary has clamped down on the university that Soros wanted to open there.

    George Soros is going to clamp one on Victor Orban… have a little patience!

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  150. @Hippopotamusdrome


    Are you aware of any statements by Hitler expressing opposition to the existence of a Jewish state

     



    Souvenir coin with a swastika and Star of David owned by a young German Jewish girl
    ... Commemorative coin issued to encourage immigration that belonged to 8 year old Mara Vishniac, a young Jewish girl who left Nazi Germany with her family in 1938-1940. The coin was struck in 1934 to memorialize the journey of Baron von Mildenstein, a Nazi party member, to Palestine. The trip resulted in a pro-Zionist report encouraging Jewish emigration, published in the nationalist newspaper, Der Angriff ...

     

    Interesting.

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  151. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Of course, Jeet Heer’s reasons for favoring globalism is purely ‘atavistic’ and tribal too.

    After all, his kind has demographic advantage to take over other societies.

    If Nation A has 1,000 people and if Nation B has 10 people, and if both sides surrender their ‘atavism’, which side will win? If all of Nation B moves to Nation A, it’s nothing. But if only 100 of Nation A move to nation B, the people of B are swamped by nation A’ers. This is why ‘multiculturalism’ between Han Chinese and Tibetans totally favors the Chinese. We can pretend that both groups are transcending ‘tribalism’, but in fact, Tibet is colonized by Chinese.

    India has 1.3 billion. UK has 65 million, Canada has 35 million, and Australia has 23 million. And many of those are already non-white colonizers. All combined, it adds up to 123 million. India has 1.3 billion and the population keeps growing.

    Also, India need not fear being swamped by others. Even though some Indians are rich, majority are still poor by Western standards. It is a slumdog nation that people don’t want to emigrate to. So, India will remain Indian. In contrast, UK-Canada-Australia can be swamped by people who look like Jeer and think(cunningly) like him.

    Now, imagine if it were reversed. Suppose some Anglo nation is very poor, filled with moronic sods, and has a population of 1.3 billion that keeps growing.
    In contrast, suppose India has only 50 million, is rich and orderly, and very clean. And has a declining native population.
    Suppose all those lowlife Anglo ‘white trash’ want to move to India and take over.
    How would Indians feel about that? I’ll bet Indians will worry about mass immigration and replacement, whereas Anglos who want easy access to rich India will bitch about the ‘evil’ of ‘atavistic’ tendencies of ‘racist’ Indians.

    Paradoxically, Indians and Jews are on the same boat on immigration for their own atavistic reasons but from opposite sides. India is like an elephant that wants to crash into your yard and eat everything. Jews are like a mouse that wants to crawl inside and gain access to the kitchen(and even gain control over it).
    The thing is both are outsiders from the perspective of white gentiles. So, to serve their own tribal interests, the Indian elephant and Jewish mouse must cooperate to demean, defame, and discredit white gentile consciousness as ‘atavistic’. Notice they are not worried about the ‘atavism’ of poor African nations. It’s because they don’t want to go there. And they don’t care if poor backward Nepal is nationalist or tribalist. They mostly bitch about the ‘atavism’ of rich nations(mostly white but sometimes Japan) because they want access to those riches and even take over.

    The fact is Indians need not worry about losing their nation and culture since India has tons of Indians who are still growing in number. Also, people don’t want to emigrate to sewage-toilet-like India. If anything, people like Jeer can’t stand his own kind, flee their own stinkpot nation, and prefer to live with cleaner whites. If Jeer is really beyond seeing race, he should move to Africa and settle there. Indians go to Africa only for business. For settlement, they always choose richer Anglo nations. Anyway, if Jeer is a ‘progressive’ who believes in equality, then his talent should serve poor African nations, not rich white nations. But he prefers to move to and settle in rich white nations where he acts as parasite and fat leech.

    Anyway, Jews oppose white gentile nationalism since it obstructs Jewish interests for domination. After all, if Poles believe in Poland for Poles and if Hungarians believe in Hungary for Hungarians, it means Jewish interests must take backseat. This is why Israel is siding with George Soros against Hungary even though Israel’s own nationalist policy is even more ‘atavistic’ than that of Viktor Orban the ‘far rightist’.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/israel-criticized-anti-george-soros-billboards-in-hungary-2017-7

    To the extent that Jews are thinking of Jewish interests, their selective anti-atavism is really just another form of ‘atavism’. After all, Jews made sure that Israel only takes Jewish immigrants and Jewish refugees. And Jewish money pressures white gentile politicians to support that kind of nationalism for Israel and Israel alone.

    And Indians oppose white gentile nationalism because they have the numbers to take over those societies. India has 1.3 billion people and will have 1.5 billion not long from now. So, even if India sheds 500 million to emigration, India will still be 1 billion strong(and produce more babies to increase population). Now, where do these Indians want to move to? Anglo-made nations, of course.

    Indian elites are like smart gypsies. They have the brains to gain success but have no sense of honesty, conscience, or scruples.

    It’s about time Anglos woke up and played Gandhi against these demographic imperialists.

    It’s time they left.

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