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Since the 1970s, the U.S. has had a National Transportation Safety Board to inquire into the causes of jetliner crashers and the like and issue recommendations. We should also have a National Immigration Safety Board to investigate how we came to let in losers like, say, this Iraqi who sabotaged a jetliner to get some extra overtime pay:

American Airlines mechanic accused of sabotaging plane over labor dispute

By DAVID KOENIG and CURT ANDERSON
Saturday, September 7, 2019 2:24PM

MIAMI — An American Airlines mechanic is accused of sabotaging a plane because he was upset over stalled labor contract negotiations, according to court documents.

He was also fired from another airline several years ago and briefly had his mechanic’s license suspended, the documents show.

Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani appeared in federal court in Miami on Friday on a charge of willfully damaging or disabling a plane. Federal investigators said he admitted to tampering with a part that provides vital flight information to pilots.

The pilots aborted the July 17 flight before takeoff in Miami.

Alani, 60, was arrested Thursday. He had worked for American since 1988 but was suspended after his arrest.

Court records from a lawsuit in California indicate that for some years, Alani worked both for American and Alaska Airlines until Alaska fired him in 2008 after several errors, including failing to verify that repairs were working and installing the wrong battery on a plane. The Federal Aviation Administration suspended his mechanic’s certificate for 30 days, according to court documents.

Alani, who was born in Iraq and became a U.S. citizen in 1992, sued Alaska Airlines for discrimination based on national origin. A judge dismissed the lawsuit for lack of evidence.

… Nothing in the criminal complaint against Alani suggests any link to terrorism, and prosecutors did not indicate that any such charges are pending. …

Alani said he tampered with the plane “to cause a delay or have the flight canceled in anticipation of obtaining overtime work,” Ruiz wrote. …

When mechanics examined the plane, they found a piece of foam glued inside a navigation system part called an air data module. Video from an American Airlines surveillance camera captured a person who drove up to the plane, got out and spent seven minutes working around the compartment under the cockpit that contains the navigation system, according to the affidavit.

The person was later identified by co-workers as Alani, in part by his distinctive limp, the affidavit said.

 
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  1. Cato says:

    Citizenship is citizenship, once earned. But before that, there needs to be a credible threat of sending the immigrant back, for crimes and for failure to support oneself and ones family.

  2. Anon[103] • Disclaimer says:

    Criminal immigrants should be deported and their families with them. The threat of having all their relatives kicked out of the country may make them behave better.

  3. Cato says:

    Citizenship is citizenship, once earned. But before that, there needs to be a credible threat of sending the immigrant back, for crimes and for failure to support oneself and ones family. Since the courts seem to be hopelessly slow and incompetent, a “National Immigration Safety Board” would perhaps be a good idea.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  4. Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani appeared in federal court in Miami on Friday on a charge of willfully damaging or disabling a plane. Federal investigators said he admitted to tampering with a part that provides vital flight information to pilots.

    The Obvious Solution is More Immigration. However, though it pains me to do so, I also have to admit that we wrecked his country of origin for no good reason, unless looking sideways at Israel counts as a good reason, which of course it does. I’m sorry I even mentioned it.

  5. Lagertha says:

    Oppo goin’ against wihte.? It never ends.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
  6. Lagertha says:

    People are avoiding their airfrcat – I am!

    • Replies: @Lagertha
  7. Would an Immigration Safety Board (ISB) catch them if they’re dressed as Elmo?

    Man, 54, dressed as Elmo is ARRESTED in New York’s Times Square for “forcible touching” after he groped children who posed for a photo with the Sesame Street character.

    Inocente Andrade-Pacheco, 54, was arrested by NYPD on September 7.


    From the comments:

    “Don’t Tickle Me Elmo”

    “He’d better be illegal or else he will be in trouble.”

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @Mr. Anon
    , @Jack D
    , @jjjj
  8. OT?

    Via @Steve_Sailer, an interesting thread about Democrat candidate Andrew Yang.

    “Robin Hood” vs. “Mosquito Technocrat” :

    [MORE]

    Indian Bronson
    He could have pushed UBI / debt jubilee / *Scramble for America* so hard.
    His position was literally “let’s you and I rob the jerks blind!” and he screwed it up.
    He screwed up Robin Hood! Astonishing.

    Lazy Glossophiliac
    Before Yang, the person most associated with UBI was Zuckerberg. You think he’s Robin Hood too?

    Indian Bronson
    Yang *screwed up* his chance at being Robin Hood, and revealed himself to be a “mosquito technocrat” like Zuckerberg -UBI an anaesthetic to hide the pain of the neoliberal bloodsucker piercing skin.

    Lazy Glossophiliac
    OK, anesthetic isn’t a bad metaphor for it. Paying people to not work, take drugs, play computer games. Opium for the masses. Any Robin Hood would oppose UBI. The government hiring people to do useful work can be good. Paying them to rot at home can only be bad.

    Indian Bronson
    I know some dumb trust fund kids, but I also know some *incredible* trust fund kids who take immense but calculated risks, living serious lives of doership, bx they don’t worry too much about money. That thumos exists in many Americans without their luck. I’d like to help them.

    Al Bumin
    What’s the difference between UBI from a mosquito technocrat and UBI from Robin Hood?

    Indian Bronson
    Besides the emergent structural designs that would result from the intent, the intent: RH UBI is to alleviate wealth inequality foisted on the West by the labor arbitrage of immigration/outsourcing. MT UBI is to keep us unwanteds glued to screens and below replacement fertility.

    Al Bumin
    That’s reading a lot into his intent. I’d say it’s a combination of both. He could probably still emphasize the Robin Hood, but I don’t think it would work for him, since he *is* a technocrat.

    Indian Bronson
    His comments pathologizing White American men as murderous stormtroopers lying in wait to slaughter innocent high IQ superior Asian Americans with money, thus, necessitating UBI + gun control (I condense, not exaggerate, his position) let us know his intent.

    Al Bumin
    Well, I can’t really find the lie here. He does paint white males as unstable in the last sentence, but then he is the only Democrat who expresses any misgivings about majority-minority America.

    https://nextshark.com/andrew-yang-shooting-asians/

    “So now that I’m running for president, I’ve learned more about the Asian American place in society. And one thing that scares the heck out of me is that this country is heading toward becoming majority minority by 2045. That’s 27 years from now.”

    “And so there’s a very happy notion in some quarters that the country will just become more tolerant as it gets more diverse. They just figure the math will take care of it, because if you have enough people, everyone will just have to get along.”

    “Unfortunately, that is not really the way things play out if you look at historical examples. There are very, very few examples in human history of a dominant racial or ethnic group giving up its dominance over time. That actually is not normal. It’s not normal behavior.”

    Indian Bronson

    Very often, the facts are known to both sides – the sides, the response to those facts, are contingent on other things.

    Yang’s approach to “2044”, which he doesn’t deny, is a great example.

    Nota bene: his concern isn’t *for* those White Americans…but *about* them.

    You see?

    I don’t deny Yang is smart, that he perceives the contours of what is to come. He’s the *only* mainstream politician talking about it, at the presidential candidate level!

    But his fix is to spray more sugar solution on and excise the soldier ant mandibles from his worker drones.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    , @Lagertha
    , @Anon
    , @Altai
  9. Hopscotch says:

    Airline safety has always been one of the more accurate ways of determining a country’s level of socioeconomic development, since it captures the diffusion of both technology and human capital/IQ within a country, and is unaffected by random commodity bubbles or SJW talking points. Much better than GNP, etc.

    I’m guessing around 2040 or so, you will see an uptick in airlines coming out of Korea and Japan, largely due to superior perceived safety. Neither this incident or the Boeing 737 Max bode well for the future of the US, since both were indicative of lousy decision-making at multiple levels.

  10. Lagertha says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    he has nothing beyond that, “we are smart people that should you make the people over smart and necessary things like: food or life.

  11. Lagertha says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Andrew, and God bless him, He knows this is important not vital….for f8cks sake – there is more time for that/nature.

  12. @Cato

    However, the few times we do “send them back” they just turn around and enter again. Porous borders will do things like that. And like this:

    An illegal alien who has been charged with 16 counts of child sex crimes, including rape and molestation, was previously deported from the United States, Breitbart News has confirmed.

    Alejandro Alcala-Avala, a 33-year-old illegal alien from Mexico, was charged with 16 counts of various child sex crimes after being arrested by Pettis County, Missouri, law enforcement officials. According to the Sedalia Democrat, Alcala-Avala’s two child victims told police that they were repeatedly raped on a regular basis by the illegal alien.

    A law enforcement official confirmed to Breitbart News that Alcala-Avala, who had been used the alias “Hermelindo Lorenzo Guapillo-Chavaria,” was deported from the U.S. in 2014 after serving 87 months in federal prison for distributing meth.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/08/previously-deported-illegal-charged-with-16-counts-of-child-sex-crimes/

    Couldn’t Nancy Pelosi, or one of the Democrat presidential candidates, or one of the Gang of Four take this poor benighted soul into their homes? What could be the harm?

    • Replies: @Lot
  13. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha

    it is too late, Steve. My son is fucking, smoking cigarrets,???????? and he has an IQ 140!n (mama is 170+.230 forSpatialb Eui.)

  14. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:

    When did the bloke arrive in the U.S.?
    He may have been a draft dodger from the Iran/Iraq War of 1980-1986.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  15. TGGP says: • Website

    I know you’ve discussed requiring immigration insurance, which would select for people who are less likely to cause harm. Robin Hanson has endorsed requiring criminal insurance for everyone, and selecting immigrants by financial speculation on their net externalities. I think these are reasonable proposals to “pull the rope sideways” and could appeal both to those who want more vs less immigration as a form of improved policy.

  16. Bill B. says:
    @Hopscotch

    Airline safety has always been one of the more accurate ways of determining a country’s level of socioeconomic development

    Agreed.

    But the USA has been hobbled by:

    1) Extreme supply chain diffusion. Eg subcon programmers.

    2) Vibrant-tinted hiring practices.

    • Agree: Paleo Liberal
    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  17. The NISB could also provide fellowships to create national-interest immigration-policy scholars.

    EVIDENCE THAT HOMELESS SURGE MAY BE DRIVEN BY IMMIGRATION

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-new-homeless
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/fighting-inequality-through-powerball
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/stay-out-of-our-near-beach-community-roundeye-junkies

    A few weeks ago I visited the Bay Area and saw some of the many homeless camps. Back home, I watched Safe Ground, a modest documentary about homeless people in Sacramento, almost all of them in this film “white.” Several Isteve commenters observe many white homeless in their locales (e.g., see comments in links above). Their lives seemed to have been made precarious by changes in the labor market and by the 2008 housing crash. Those in the Sacramento movie were mostly hill people like those I grew up around in the rural west (although I am not of the same stock), the same people that New Yorker Al Capp racially ridiculed and stigmatized in the 1950s. As a young adult sometimes lacking funds I lived rough myself for short spells now and then. A few different twists and turns in my life and I could have ended up on the street. Fresh report on Sacramento: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7396585/Californias-homeless-crisis-engulfs-capital-Sacramentos-people-confront-naked-junkies.html

    I spent a few hours looking for any investigation of the effects of immigration levels on homelessness. Ctrl-F-migra yielded no results except for NGO and local government mantras about not discriminating against illegal-alien homeless, and woke spluttering at a Tucker Carlson series where he posited such a relationship. One detailed opinion piece reviews evidence about immigration and housing for millennials, citing three studies that claim to show a relationship between immigration and increased housing price (https://amgreatness.com/2019/08/15/how-immigration-made-14-million-millennials-homeless/); for several reasons, “houses are 73 percent more expensive today (in real terms) than they were in 1973.”

    Let me know if I missed any scholarly studies of immigration and homelessness. With all the charitable zeal of the philanthropic foundations, you think there’d be something. Just like you’d expect those foundations to advocate at high policy levels for more efficiently helping the world’s poor or displaced by efforts in or near their home countries. Are we in a dark age in which hypotheses vulnerable to twitter storms can never be tested?

    There are racial disparities in homelessness, but I suspect that most would diminish with standard controls. Blacks are homeless at three times their proportion in the U.S. population, Natives twice as much, Whites are comparatively under-represented although making up 48% of the homeless population, and Asians are homeless at about one-third their population share. Blacks are overrepresented even after application of some controls (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30242661) and that
    overrepresentation is explained by the usual question-begging theories, e.g., (https://citylimits.org/2012/03/05/homelessness-its-about-race-not-just-poverty/).
    “Hispanics” are homeless at about the same level as their proportion in the population. https://files.hudexchange.info/resources/documents/2018-AHAR-Part-1.pdf Further, there is “no significant difference in rates of lifetime adult homelessness between foreign-born adults and native-born adults.” https://socialinnovation.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Jack-Tsai-Homelessness-among-immigrants-in-the-United-States-Rates.pdf

    I found data on 2017 homelessness-rate per state, 2017 proportions of illegal-aliens in each state (based on the dubious official estimate of 10 million total illegals in the country), and 2017 proportions of foreign-born in each state. Across the 50 states, there was a 30% positive correlation between homelessness and illegals, not that strong a finding, but there was a 50% correlation between proportions of homeless and proportions of foreign-born (and recall that both “Hispanics” and the foreign-born are not overrepresented among the homeless — meaning that increases in the number of homeless are not driven by an increase in homeless immigrants). The association with foreign-born I think is worth more investigation because homelessness likely is caused not just by employer preference for younger, more docile, and lower-wage immigrant labor, illegal or legal, but also by crowded housing supply, infrastructure, and public services — the social turbulence consequent to rapid and polyglot population growth and displacements.

    A serious study would have to propose specific causal hypotheses and include appropriate control variables including one for homeless-friendly weather (there could be comparatively more homeless people showing up in Hawaii than in Alaska), and one that would capture variation in the ratio of housing prices to incomes, and so on. A multivariate analysis could reveal an immigration effect much larger than 50% (or could reveal a smaller effect). A time-series analysis might be more informative. I lack the expertise.

    The mentally ill, addicted, or destitute are not great neighbors; and everyone knows jerks and aholes who are deservedly marginalized. The camps I saw were heterogeneous though, from deranged and drugged downtown San Francisco squalor to neatly parked RVs on long roads in industrial East Bay. Toxic charity, and decriminalization or nonenforcement of order offenses, make the problem worse (see for details: https://www.city-journal.org/progressive-policies-urban-dysfunction). I am all for maintaining public order and for holding people responsible for their actions (when they are capable of being responsible). At the same time, there are some people whose agency is damaged; and external factors such as mass immigration, weak labor markets, outsourcing, housing bubbles, medical catastrophe, aggressive opiate marketing, higher-education debt, or bad luck that can drive responsible but vulnerable people for some time into the ranks of the under-sheltered. (https://amgreatness.com/2019/08/15/how-immigration-made-14-million-millennials-homeless/). Are there policy responses better than indulgence or indifference?

    I loved dystopian novels in my youth. If in 1969 you had predicted to me that in 2019 California’s population would be doubled, that displaced and immiserated natives would be living in squatter camps as far as the eye can see, that billionaires mouthing Weather Underground platitudes would be bringing in hundreds of thousands of subcontinental serfs for the best-paid jobs and demanding to open the borders of California to everyone else in the world, I would have thought it laughably far-fetched. The story would have been more plausible if some Herbert Marcuse Youth Brigade clandestinely financed by the Koch brothers had fought a war to force the secession of California from the US.

    • Agree: Daniel H, Alden
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  18. OFF TOPIC:

    Sinead O’Connor issues apology for saying she ‘doesn’t want to spend any more time with white people’ following conversion to Islam

    By RIANNE ADDO and LARA KEAY FOR MAILONLINE
    PUBLISHED: 11:11 EDT, 8 September 2019 | UPDATED: 11:42 EDT, 8 September 2019

    Sinead O’Connor has issued an apology for saying she ‘doesn’t want to spend any more time with white people’ following her conversion to Islam last year.

    In a tweet posted to her account on Sunday, the Irish singer, 52, claimed she was ‘angry and unwell’ when she made the ‘racist’ comment’, and insisted her remarks were ‘not true at the time and are not true now’.

    The musician – who is also known as Shuhada’ Davitt – also appeared on RTE’s The Late Late Show to discuss her new faith as she revealed she’s ‘found home’ in Islam and has realised she’s been a Muslim ‘all my life’.

    During a recent appearance on The Late Late Show, Sinead detailed her conversion to Islam: ‘I never thought I’d join another religion. I left Islam till last as I had so much prejudice about Islam, you know.

    ‘I read chapter two of the Qu’ran and I realised I’m home, and that I’ve been a Muslim all my life. There’s a way of thinking.

    ‘You can be a Muslim without actually being a Muslim as it’s a headset. A Muslim is someone who believes nothing should be worshiped except God.

    She added: ‘This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey. All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant. I will be given (another) new name. It will be Shuhada.’

    The singer said she was given her first hijab by her friend Elaine and ‘got chills all over’ her body when she put it on.

    🙂

  19. Moses says:
    @Hopscotch

    I’m guessing around 2040 or so, you will see an uptick in airlines coming out of Korea and Japan, largely due to superior perceived safety.

    Japan maybe, but not Korea.

    A Korean copilot watched his Korean captain fly a perfectly fine 787 into the ground at SFO in 2013. It was a Korean airline, Asiana.

    So yeah, scratch Korean airlines from the list.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiana_Airlines_Flight_214#Survivor_and_eyewitness_accounts

    Separately, Japanese airlines ANA and Japan Airlines are my favorite carriers for trans-Pacific journeys. Outstanding service, and I have high confidence in their technical ability and safety.

    Singapore Airlines is awesome too, but doesn’t fly the routes I usually take.

    I don’t fly Asian discount airlines anymore.

  20. Anonymous[208] • Disclaimer says:

    The plain and simple fact – so elegantly enunciated by ‘Schaeffer’s Number’, (see iSteve passim), – is that the vast majority of immigration into the USA is, to put it bluntly, economically and fiscally ruinous to an extent which can only be described as catastrophic.

    This is an unfalsifiable incontrovertible pure mathematical deduction. As plain as paint. But, of course, one never hears about it. The pro immigration Economist establishment make sure of that. Therefore, Steve’s notion of an ‘Immigration Safety Board’ is a definite non starter.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  21. danand says:
    @TGGP

    “reasonable proposals to “pull the rope sideways””

    TGGP, excuse the hijacking of your most excellent post. Couldn’t resist, noose news is leading the TV news broadcasts locally.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  22. The answer is simple. Put these immigrants to work in the cities that vote for more immigration or sanctuary cities. Don’t let them move anywhere else. Force the people doing this to the country to reap the full benefit of immigration all for themselves.
    Once a bunch of liberal shit-wits see their families vaporized in plane crashes, maybe they’ll learn something.
    On the other hand, New Yorkers apparently learned nothing from 9/11, so maybe it’s too late for them. In which case their elimination in terrorist acts is a good thing for the rest of us.
    If nothing else, consider it schadenfreude.

  23. Shermy says:
    @Mr McKenna

    The Obvious Solution is More Immigration. However, though it pains me to do so, I also have to admit that we wrecked his country of origin for no good reason.

    Wrong. Sadaam was batshit crazy, and so were his sons, which meant if he wasn’t deposed, the region would be a shitshow for the next 50 years at least. Not complying with UN ordered inspections of assorted sites of a interest was enough reason to legally rain hell on him, after all the shit he put us through by invading Kuwait, regardless of whether or not he had weapons of mass destruction.

    Btw, since it took over three months for us to prepare for his ass-kicking, he had ample time to remove anything that would have made the UN mad, and we’ll never know if he did or not.

    The entire world is better off with a disjointed, and even somewhat porous Iraq, rather than one empowered by a malevolent idiot dictator and sons, as we proceed into the new century. We’ve created enough confusion to keep them busy for awhile. That’s a win.

    The trashing of Libya, however, was the fuckup of the new century that will be hard to beat.

  24. @Anon

    Right. If we’re going to continue to be cursed with chain migration, let us at least have chain deportation.

  25. Off Topic.

    Has anyone been following the vaping lung disease outbreak? The CDC is trying to spin it as a problem caused by nicotine vaping. Their primary warning is to avoid electronic cigarettes and vaping altogether. BUT: All 34 cases in New York State admitted using cannabis products. The suspected substance, Vitamin E acetate, was found in cannabis products but not in the nicotine-based products they tested.

    https://www.health.ny.gov/press/releases/2019/2019-09-05_vaping.htm

    “The glaring omission in the CDC’s recommendations for clinicians is that they failed to recommend that clinicians conduct a sensitive urine drug screen for THC in every patient.” That way, if the patient lies about using marijuana products, the CDC can claim that not all of them used it, and keep on fear-mongering about nicotine vaping and flavors!

    http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2019/09/the-most-telling-sign-that-cdc-is.html

    • Replies: @res
    , @Jack D
  26. Tiny Duck says:

    Your daughters will give birth to Children of Color

    How many of you have touched a woman in a romantic way?

  27. Aft says:

    Planning, initiative, sounds above average.

    Hint: they’re sending their best. But the average is pretty damn low and none of them have a hint of morality that applies outside their clan or extended family.

  28. Nothing in the criminal complaint against Alani suggests any link to terrorism….

    So, the name Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani doesn’t register as indicum of a possible link?

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  29. @Tiny Duck

    Do your wife and daughter count?

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  30. JimB says:

    Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani should be appointed official flight mechanic of the Democratic Party.

  31. Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Kind of a dumb critique. The critique boils down to complaining about how the Chinese guy isn’t a White Nationalist. Well, duh. Why isn’t this critique being aimed at the actual white candidates, who are just as bad or worse than Yang? Why aren’t any white politicians and candidates running with UBI if it’s such a no brainer? Why aren’t white nationalist activists and candidates running with UBI if the problem with the one guy running with it is that he’s Chinese and not a white nationalist? There’s no excuse, since the only other figure who’s been talking about UBI until Yang was Charles Murray, who wrote a whole book on it.

    Yang, the Chinese guy running in the Democratic primaries, hasn’t screwed up by failing to marry UBI with some sort of implicit white nationalist politics. White activists have failed by ignoring UBI despite Murray’s work on it.

    Having said all this, UBI married with some sort of explicit or implicit white nationalism is going to face obstacles in the Democratic Party for obvious reasons. And UBI is going to face obstacles in the GOP because of conservative economic dogma and white opposition to handouts to non-whites.

  32. @New Dealer

    Ireland, which has experienced an unprecedented wave of immigration from Eastern Europe and more distant parts, has plenty of native Irish living on the streets.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/specialreports/cork-tented-village-we-look-after-each-other-look-out-for-each-otherits-our-sanctuary-946921.html

  33. @Shermy

    “The entire world is better off with a disjointed, and even somewhat porous Iraq, rather than one empowered by a malevolent idiot dictator and sons, as we proceed into the new century. We’ve created enough confusion to keep them busy for awhile. That’s a win.”

    A win for who?

    • Replies: @Whiskey
  34. Lex says:
    @Diversity is Great!

    I wonder what is a bigger factor – losing looks or losing relevancy?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin%C3%A9ad_O%27Connor

    born Sinéad Marie Bernadette O’Connor

    In 2017, O’Connor said that she had changed her legal name to Magda Davitt. On converting to Islam in 2018, she changed it again to Shuhada’ Davitt.


    Will she be mocking imams now?

    • Replies: @TWS
  35. Lucas says:
    @Tiny Duck

    @Tiny Duck
    You definitely to no, damn piece of shit.
    In addition, it is the black and the mestizo who die for the white cock, in Argentina all non-white people die for being with a white man.
    It’s normal we are the mestra race and the most beautiful of all, better than your crap ape.

  36. Beliavsky says:

    Harvard professor Raj Chetty has been given access to everyone’s tax returns to do his income mobility studies. Why can’t we tabulate for immigrants, by country of origin, the average household income, taxes paid, and benefits received?

    • Agree: GermanReader2
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  37. @Beliavsky

    Harvard no doubt has a computer model for evaluating applicants that says that a 3.8 GPA at, to pick some L.A. high schools, Harvard-Westlake, Pasadena Poly, or Loyola is better than a 3.8 GPA at Barack Obama Global Opportunity Academy in South-Central. But for the United States government to have a computer model to give more weight to the likely success of an immigrant from Norway than from Haiti would be WRONG.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Altai
  38. @Cato

    Citizenship is not a right, it’s a privilege. It can and should be revoked if abused.

  39. @Shermy

    You’re absolutely wrong about the Iraq debacle. But you’re here, so perhaps with time you’ll learn to see why you’re so wrong about it.

  40. 18 years after 9/11…here is what I can report…..

    The summer of 2019 Lake George NY….invested with Muslim LEGAL IMMIGRANTS…not just ordinary Muslim Immigrants….Lake George NY…WE are talking about the Adirondacks….right from TALIBAN-ISIS-AL QUEDA central casting walking around all over the place, wives pushing strollers with Muslim American children…..The men wearing the white pajama-light brown pajama outfits…scraggly beards…a cap on top of the head….The woman are wearing dark red-dark purple outfits……..They must have landed at Kennedy Airport the previous week…LEGALLY….All over the fucking place……..right from the poppy fields of Afghanistan….The extended Patel Family own all the hotels…..

    The Muslims did 9/11…..All they had to do is take advantage of the stupidity of Native Born White Americans…….and a TREASONOUS US MILITARY at Fort Hood…..Paul Craig Roberts is a crazy Old bastard pushing the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory…

  41. George says:

    “We are under attack by Russians intent on weakening our democracy.

    Trump welcomes that, making the heart and soul of his presidency a wall to protect us from desperate Hondurans seeking to clean our toilets and pick our tomatoes.

    So how did I miss George Will’s review earlier this summer of Danny Okrent’s The Guarded Gate: Bigotry, Eugenics, and the Law That Kept Two Generations of Jews, Italians, and Other European Immigrants Out of America?”

    https://andrewtobias.com/vast-masses-of-filth/

    George Will is shocked that after the massive immigration of the ‘Gilded Age’ someone would suggest a pause.

    “that immigrants from Southern Italy “lack the conveniences for thinking,” that Neapolitans were a “degenerate” class “infected with spiritual hookworm” and displaying “low foreheads, open mouths, weak chins … and backless heads” The curiosity is that Will must be aware that Southern Italians formed the basis of the Mafia and anarchists in the 1900s. But having Marconi in the US made up for it.

    George Will: Last century’s immigration debate makes today’s seem enlightened
    https://www.denverpost.com/2019/06/30/george-will-last-centurys-immigration-debate-makes-todays-seem-enlightened/

    The Old world in the New; the significance of past and present … Ross, Edward Alsworth, 1866-1951.
    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015001144909&view=1up&seq=66

    Alsworth sort of praises Northern Italians but, for example, Luigi Galleani, the Bin Laden* of the Anarchist movement, was Northern Italian.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Galleani
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galleanists

    * Assuming Bin Laden actually did anything and was not under the employ of various intelligence agencies.

    • Replies: @Altai
  42. peterike says:
    @Shermy

    Sadaam was batshit crazy, and so were his sons,

    Crazy enough to keep his fake nation, a forced amalgam of disparate and hostile tribes, together and functioning.

    which meant if he wasn’t deposed, the region would be a shitshow for the next 50 years at least.

    Which is different how than what it was for hundreds of years before that, and still is today, post-Saddam? What did our thousands of dead, countless more thousands wounded, and trillions of dollars accomplish? Other than goy blood and treasure spent for Israel. No other people on earth benefited from the Iraq invasion.

    Not complying with UN ordered inspections of assorted sites of a interest was enough reason to legally rain hell on him,

    Iraq was a sovereign nation and had every right to flip the U.N. (nothing but a den of grifters) the bird. And of what benefit was our “legally” raining hell on him? Wasn’t worth the price of a single cruise missile.

    after all the shit he put us through by invading Kuwait,

    Who cares? It was none of our business. Let those stupid nations war endlessly with each other. Had our response to the Kuwait invasion been to do absolutely nothing, we’d all have been better off.

    After all, the only useful thing all those nations have is oil. And as my late father used to say, “What are they going to do with the oil? Drink it?” In other words, it doesn’t matter who is in charge, the oil will make its way onto the world markets, because nothing else can be done with it. Other than that, who cares.

  43. BB753 says:

    Steve, you don’t understand the real issue here. America has failed Mr Alani, not the other way around. Poor Abdul Majeed Marouf Ahmed doesn’t understand American business practices. Why can’t America be more like home for Mr Alani? Airlines with shoddy security, the impunity of bribing inspectors, having your son-in-law, married to your precious fourteen year old daughter, high-up in American Airlines hierarchy, etc.
    The obvious solution is even more immigration, Steve. Abdul needs his clan in America and for America to look more like the world, to accommodate the global needs of the real Americans: post-1965 Americans.
    There’s nothing that immigration and open borders can’t fix. It’s pure magic. Good for the economy. Good for everybody.

  44. peterike says:
    @Hopscotch

    I’m guessing around 2040 or so, you will see an uptick in airlines coming out of Korea and Japan, largely due to superior perceived safety.

    And right on queue, a giant Korean-manned container ship tips over off the Georgia coast.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-09/coast-guard-searches-missing-crew-after-cargo-ship-capsized-georgia-coast

    As a side note, the shipping industry is yet another area of solid, blue-collar jobs that we handed off lock, stock and barrel to foreigners for no good reason other than to make the usual globalist elites more money.

  45. @Mr McKenna

    The Obvious Solution is More Immigration. However, though it pains me to do so, I also have to admit that we wrecked his country of origin for no good reason, unless looking sideways at Israel counts as a good reason, which of course it does. I’m sorry I even mentioned it.

    “We” did no such thing.

  46. @Diversity is Great!

    Did any white people want to spend time with her?

    • Agree: bomag
  47. @Shermy

    Btw, since it took over three months for us to prepare for his ass-kicking, he had ample time to remove anything that would have made the UN mad, and we’ll never know if he did or not.

    We know simply by the way the story was told that the claims regarding WMD’s were lies.

  48. @TGGP

    Ohio and Pennsylvania’s requirement that free Negroes put a $500 bond for good conduct prior to The War Of The Rebellion are considered bad things nowadays. The insurance proposals you linked to will be considered just as bad, if not worse.

  49. bomag says:
    @Mr McKenna

    However, though it pains me to do so, I also have to admit that we wrecked his country of origin for no good reason

    Debatable, but at least give us an equal whack: give us an equal percentage of infrastructure destruction and loss of life. That would be much preferable to importing dingoes to eat our babies forevermore.

    BTW, Iraq’s population went from 25m in 2003 to 38m today. An equivalent US growth would have us at 450m today.

  50. @Shermy

    The neocons salute you. Overturning the social order in Iraq, firing the entire army after destroying organized resistance, why they were brilliant moves by our best educated elites. Libya was just a second helping of yellow cake.

  51. When mechanics examined the plane, they found a piece of foam glued inside a navigation system part called an air data module.

    This is a non-deferrable thing, and even a deferral item would slow things down. You can’t go without both air data computers (along with the standby system). That’s no small thing like pulling off a static wick or something – good chance it wouldn’t be noticed for a while anyway. It really could have caused a problem. Not terrorism? OK, but reckless endangerment of some sort? (Any lawyers, feel free to chime in.)

    If it makes you feel any better, a big chunk of the ramp and food service people at MSP (Minneapolis/St. Paul) are Somalians, with complete access to all compartments of the airplanes (not legally, but practically). Nice…

  52. @Tiny Duck

    Columbus is the reason the future is Hispanic. Somebody should build a statue of the man, maybe even name a holiday in his honor.

  53. @Anonymous

    The plain and simple fact – so elegantly enunciated by ‘Schaeffer’s Number’, (see iSteve passim), – is that the vast majority of immigration into the USA is, to put it bluntly, economically and fiscally ruinous to an extent which can only be described as catastrophic.

    This is an unfalsifiable incontrovertible pure mathematical deduction. As plain as paint. But, of course, one never hears about it.

    You are right, and thanks for bringing it up.

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/05/peter-schaeffer-ftw.html

  54. Whiskey says: • Website
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Partial win for the US. Secured partially the northern Saudi flank. loss in that the oil has mostly stayed off the world market.

    loss for Israel. They lose the counter balance to Iran their most dangerous and organised enemy. Iran must destroy Israel to reconstitute their Persian empire.

    Win for Iran. They run half of Iran now. Keep that oil off the market.

    Oil=money=power.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  55. bomag says:
    @Anon

    Why aren’t any white politicians and candidates running with UBI if it’s such a no brainer?

    It’s not a no-brainer. Explicit transfer payments are problematic; better to have what most of the world does: a comprador system with ethnic nationalism working below the surface.

  56. @Shermy

    You somehow seem to have overlooked the CIA’s role in the coup that brought Hussein’s Ba’ath party to power.
    He was just one more US implemented war crime.

    And less of this “we” crap . The vast majority of UNZ commentators have had no involvement in this shit.

  57. Lurker says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Not quite so inocente after all.

  58. TWS says:

    The US is toast. The ducks brown America will resemble any third world shit hole you care to name. Forget about airlines, they’ll be lucky to keep the lights on 24-7. Maybe whitetopias will linger but the vast brown hordes will be eating Soylent Green.

  59. TWS says:
    @Lex

    How long before she’s out as a lesbian Moslem?

  60. Steve Sailer On Imperial Backwash from 2014:

    Imperial backwash is a concept suggested by John Updike at the end of The Coup in which the African dictator winds up in exile in France, his country’s former colonial master:

    The good citizens of France no longer look up at the sight of noirs strolling down their avenues. Their African empire, which a passion for abstraction led them to carve from the most vacant sector of the continent, backed up on them a bit, like those other cartographic reservoirs for a century flooded with ink of European tints, and doused the home country with a sprinkling of dark diplomats, students, menial laborers, and political exiles.

    Or, as a Washington friend notes:

    There’s a joke that there’s a 20-year lag time between DC’s foreign policy and its cab drivers.

    Tweets from 2014:

  61. Mr. Anon says:
    @Cato

    Citizenship is citizenship, once earned.

    Is citizenship citizenship if not “earned”? I was born here. Most of my ancestors were founding stock Americans.

    And yet, the value of my citizenship is diluted day by day.

    • Replies: @Cato
  62. Mr. Anon says:
    @Shermy

    Wrong. Sadaam was batshit crazy, and so were his sons, which meant if he wasn’t deposed, the region would be a shitshow for the next 50 years at least.

    It’s a shitshow now. It’s our shitshow now, and probably will be for another 50 years at least. Or do you think that ISIS is just their version of the Rotary Club?

    The entire world is better off with a disjointed, and even somewhat porous Iraq, rather than one empowered by a malevolent idiot dictator and sons, as we proceed into the new century.

    No, the entire World is not better off. One country might be. Or it might not be, but it’s boosters in this country seem to think it is. In any event, the whole thing has nothing to do with the real interests of the American people.

  63. @Steve Sailer

    3.8 GPA at Barack Obama Global Opportunity Academy

    As in BOGO, “buy one, get one”?

    So that 3.8 only cost the student pupil 1.9?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  64. @Anon

    If anything would make them behave better, they could behave better in their countries of origin. Our dirt isn’t magic. What we really need is sanctuary cities for legal citizens . . . sort of a reverse “Escape From New York”.

  65. Mr. Anon says:
    @Mr McKenna

    In Soviet America, Elmo………..tickle you!

  66. @ben tillman

    We know simply by the way the story was told that the claims regarding WMD’s were lies.

    On the other hand, Saddam was not the most forthcoming of leaders. His statements ended in ellipses with his fingers crossed.

    Those who accuse GWB of lying never do so for FDR and German WMD research, which the British had destroyed by 1943.

  67. @Bill B.

    I used to have a friend who was a pilot for a major carrier. He told stories about their antiquated software, which was maintained by subcontinent programmers.

    What could possibly go woorng?

  68. @Hopscotch

    You’re assuming the environmental wackos don’t succeed in banning commercial aviation, if not all powered travel.

  69. @Diversity is Great!

    So, she’s one of those Black Irish then?

  70. Altai says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    How the hell is Biden beating Sanders? Who are these people who vote in primaries? And why isn’t anyone holding the DNC accountable for the fact that while Sanders would have beaten Trump in 2016 and still could in 2020, Biden (Or Harris or Warren) would just be a punching bag for Trump.

    And we know why they don’t want Sanders to win over Trump, but why aren’t they getting raked over the coals for this. You can’t go so histrionic to the point of this level of political polarisation about how horrible Trump is and then sidestep the best candidate to beat him because he embodies a lot of the same political clients and ethos as Trump that you pretend isn’t the problem you have with Trump.

    • Replies: @jjjj
    , @Anonymous
  71. @Mr McKenna

    However, though it pains me to do so, I also have to admit that we wrecked his country of origin for no good reason, unless looking sideways at Israel counts as a good reason, which of course it does. I’m sorry I even mentioned it.

    He came here before 1988. Well before the Gulf War(not that Israel had much to do with the Gulf War either but whatever). His coming here had little to do with America’s destruction of Iraqi society.

  72. @anon

    He was working for American Airlines by 1988 already , so that seems likely.

  73. Only slightly OT: A Martian who watched the NFL this Sunday afternoon and evening might rightly conclude that the USA is populated mostly by blacks, hispanics, a smattering of gooks, and only about 20% white people all of whom are in mixed marriages.

  74. @Mr McKenna

    As the article says, this guy became a US citizen in 1992. So he came here long before we wrecked his country under Bush Jr. Even before we briefly disciplined his country under Bush Sr.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  75. Altai says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The problem is the third-worldisation (I don’t just mean demographically but in terms of things like health insurance, university fees and generally the massive inequality and rule by oligarchy) of the USA has made it unattractive for very many Norwegians to emigrate to.

    A lot of Americans don’t realise that nobody, particularly younger people in the rest of the Western world thinks of America as a land of opportunity anymore. Maybe America could attract lots of gold-chain white people but not much else and I don’t know anyone who’d want to live next door to Mr and Mrs Gold-Chain or consider them to be desirable new countrymen.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  76. @Hopscotch

    Disorganized countries can run an airline by getting their maintenance done when the planes are on the ground in a competent country.

  77. @TGGP

    If that idea catches on, its first victim will be gun mfgs and gun stores, which will be forced to buy ruinously expensive insurance against damage done by the guns they sell.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  78. @Reg Cæsar

    Shame on you Reg, Hasn’t Lori Loughlin suffered enough?

  79. @danand

    I remember reading something by a youth sports coach who said nooses were a forbidden topic on his team because one of the teammates lost a sibling due to suicide by noose. Had nothing to do with race.

    That is more common than one might think. I know a youth sports coach who took a former team member to the ER after a suicide attempt by noose. That kid was someone we are close to. Very sad.

    Nooses have more than one meaning, but no noose is good noose.

    • Replies: @jjjj
  80. JimB says:

    We should also have a National Immigration Safety Board to investigate how we came to let in losers like, say, this Iraqi who sabotaged a jetliner to get some extra overtime pay

    Perhaps equally pressing is how a loser like this could qualify to become an airline mechanic. I suspect he was hired during the Obama administration when there was a big push to hire under qualified minorities for highly remunerated ground crew and air traffic controller positions by mandating applicants pass a hip hop knowledge test instead of a rigorous professional exam to get into training programs. It’s only a matter of time before midair collisions and planes dropping out of the sky become commonplace.

  81. @Paleo Liberal

    TD is a valuable part of the UR ecosystem, reminding us the extent and depravity of the dark forces of evil we face.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  82. Jack D says:

    He [Alani] had worked for American since 1988

    If letting Alani in was a mistake, it was a mistake that was made a LONG time ago. I think the statute of limitations has run on that mistake and it would be outside the purview of your hypothetical Safety Board. It sounds like Alani’s problem had more to do with American unionism, which he learned here than anything having to do with his immigrant status. “Organized” labor sabotaging their employer’s equipment is a very old thing going back to the origin of the word itself.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  83. @Moses

    Don’t forget the news report on that crash:

  84. Anon[142] • Disclaimer says:

    During the Antonin pandemics so many Roman citizens died or were disabled that the legions were greatly reduced and various barbarians seized border areas. The empire was also short of funds since miners living in close quarters were hit by the epidemic, and crops were rotting in the fields (or rather the fields weren’t even being tilled), because farmers were dying and not being replenished by retiring soldiers, because they were dying.

    Emperor Marcus Aurelius hit on a brainstorm: Offer land to German allied tribe members after military service in the Roman legions to restore both the military and Roman agricultural productivity.

    However, a group of Germans in northern Italy revolted and seized the city of Ravenna. Marcus Aurelius killed off the land program and kicked out the Germans (although it continued in border areas).

  85. Jack D says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Most (all?) of the costumed characters hanging around Times Square are Latino. There is some sort of racket that sets up recent Hispanic immigrants (few of them speak English) with costumes, assigns them territories (good luck just showing up in costume on some other Elmo’s corner if you value your life), etc. There have been numerous problems with costumed characters demanding money from people who snap their pictures, beating them up if they don’t pay, getting into fights with other characters (we finally get to find out if Superman can beat up Batman), etc. Disneyland it ain’t but OTOH it costs $117 (!!!) to get into Disneyland nowadays and Times Square is free.

  86. @ben tillman

    We know from the fact that US army commanders massed a large force within easy flight of WMD-tipped missiles from Iraq that the US army commanders KNEW there were no WMDs in Iraq. Saddam certainly was within his rights to fire all his WMDs at the invasion force and did not do so, and US commanders know about pre-emption of attack being also legitimate.

    Having an invasion force of hundreds of thousands wiped out by a nuke or chemical weapon would be unthinkable for a 4-star, yet they had amassed force that could have been wiped out by such.

    We knew, before attacking, that there were no WMDs that could be used against us.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Jack Armstrong
  87. Jack D says:
    @Moses

    The capsizing of the Korean ferry also revealed numerous weaknesses in their system – corrupt and incompetent government officials not doing their job, businesses that were more concerned with making money than with safety, etc. On a good day the Koreans are like the Japanese but on a bad day they are more like the Chinese.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  88. Jack D says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Logic is not Tiny’s strong suit. If unzers have never touched a woman in a romantic way, how is it possible that they have daughters?

    • Replies: @BB753
  89. bucky says:

    And? This sort of BS is common among middle aged working men. White men too.

    He wasn’t ideologically motivated. He wasn’t nationalistically motivated or religiously motivated.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  90. @Anon

    My on-topic-ish post is about Indian Bronson’s articulate recognition of Andrew Yang’s fear of disgruntled white masses. Al Bumin dug up the Yang money quote:

    So now that I’m running for president, I’ve learned more about the Asian American place in society. And one thing that scares the heck out of me is that this country is heading toward becoming majority minority by 2045. That’s 27 years from now.

    And so there’s a very happy notion in some quarters that the country will just become more tolerant as it gets more diverse. They just figure the math will take care of it, because if you have enough people, everyone will just have to get along.

    Unfortunately, that is not really the way things play out if you look at historical examples. There are very, very few examples in human history of a dominant racial or ethnic group giving up its dominance over time. That actually is not normal. It’s not normal behavior.

  91. Anonymous[361] • Disclaimer says:

    Slightly off topic.
    Heads explode in Canada when an anti-diversity oped appears in
    the Vancouver Sun.

    https://www.canadalandshow.com/mark-hecht-explains-how-vancouver-sun-oped-got-published/

  92. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck

    How many times has TD touched a man of color in a romantic way?

    • Replies: @fish
  93. Spud Boy says:
    @ben tillman

    “We know simply by the way the story was told that the claims regarding WMD’s were lies.”

    Can we bury this canard that Iraq did not have WMDs once and for all? Hussein actually USED WMDs prior to our claims that he possessed them. Please educate yourself. From Wikipedia:

    “The Halabja chemical attack (Kurdish: Kêmyabarana Helebce کمیابارانی ھەڵەبجە), also known as the Halabja Massacre or Bloody Friday,[1] was a massacre against the Kurdish people that took place on March 16, 1988.”

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @J.Ross
  94. J.Ross says:

    A functioning society would stop allowing people with names like that from having anything to do with an airplane, except ride on it as a scrutinized paying passenger, on the morning of September Twelfth. Ours likes predictable surprises.
    ——
    NASCAR has gone anti-gun (as some here predicted); now we can await its burial.
    ——-
    Chelsea Handler (a blonde Canadian Mormon-Jew whose comedy depends on boasting of slutty drunkeness) is going to release a “documentary” about white racism.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  95. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Even the good East Asians will not get fully away from what we call corruption because of their deeply rooted idea that public embarassment is far worse than merely doing something wrong. When we Westerners became less corrupt, it was only thanks to transparency and decentralization.

  96. Altai says:
    @George

    One can question the moral judgements. (Though one could happily go to these places today to find lots of furbo-ness still in play)

    But the observation; displaying “low foreheads, open mouths, weak chins … and backless heads” is surely just an observation anyone could make with or without negative judgement.

    People don’t like Southern Italians because they tend to be particularly anti-social to outgroups and annoying. Much as they do for others with similar traits like Balkan people, Arabs, Travellers, people from the Caucasus, to a lesser extent also much of Eastern and South Eastern Europeans etc. Gold chain people are crummy people.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  97. National Immigration Safety Board you say? Can’t be done in the present political environment when the mendacity and corruption of the two main political parties, the executive and the judiciary are matched by the imbecility of the majority that allows them to remain in power.

  98. @The Alarmist

    Nope.

    A troll is a troll.

    I post on both right wing and left wing sites. There are a certain number of people who like to troll the other side. Tiny Duck imagines right wingers quaking in fear of white women with black men. So “they” post all sorts of stuff just to get a rise out of you all. Nothing more.

    I think Steve keeps Tiny Duck around for the entertainment value, but I could be wrong.

  99. Trump and the Republican Party Treasonites are now pushing for mass legal immigration to be flooded into the USA “in the largest numbers ever.”

    Trump and the Republican Party Treasonites are refusing to deport the upwards of 30 million illegal alien infiltrators in the USA.

    Trump and the Republican Party Treasonites are using mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration as DEMOGRAPHIC WEAPONS to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

  100. fish says:
    @Anonymous

    How many times has TD touched a man of color in a romantic way?

    If one is to believe Tinys troll “background” it should really read; How many times has a man of color touched Tiny in a romantic and probing way?

  101. Jack D says:
    @TomSchmidt

    Remember that WMD’s include chemical and biological weapons, not just nukes. The US (wrongly) believed that Saddam had these and equipped the US forces with gas masks, chemical resistant suits, etc. at considerable cost (and discomfort to the troops and sometimes more – wearing a rubber suit when it’s 120 degrees outside is no joke). Later it turned out that Saddam’s “mobile biological labs” were really units were designed to be used for hydrogen production to fill artillery weather balloons, part of a system originally sold to Saddam by Britain in 1987. The US really sucks at intelligence, especially human intelligence.

    A lot of people think that the US really knew that Saddam had no WMDs and attacked anyway in order to please the Zionists or something, but if you assume that our leaders are super idiots and not super geniuses you will be right more often than not. To say that the modern American empire has feet of clay is giving it too much credit – it’s more like feet of styrofoam. The only reason we haven’t been punished for this bigtime (yet) is that our enemies are led by even bigger idiots. If you view world history as a series of colossal blunders you won’t be far from wrong. The winners of wars are the people who make slightly fewer colossal blunders than the other side.

  102. Travis says:

    The priority should be to significantly reduce legal and illegal immigration. The first step is eliminating the diversity visa lottery. Most of the Africans and Muslims enter our nation legally via the diversity lottery. Eliminating the Diversity lottery is a must and should be the top priority.

  103. ATBOTL says:

    It’s good thing we don’t know how many people like Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani live in our country. We wouldn’t want to make them angry by knowing.

  104. @Cato

    Citizenship and it’s rights and privileges should only apply to natural born citizens born of natural born citizens going back to 1790. Everyone else is just a guest.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Corvinus
    , @Reg Cæsar
  105. res says:
    @Grace Jones

    Thanks. I had seen the news and was intrigued by the way they were reporting it (cannabis kept showing up in the fine print, but not the headlines), but had not looked closely.

  106. MEH 0910 says:

    OT:

    Tim Naftali replies:

    ******
    Prior to the October 7 phone call, Nixon received a memo from Moynihan, who had left the administration as a domestic adviser in late 1970 to return to teaching at Harvard. The document, which makes for unpleasant reading, lays bare that Moynihan shared the view that intelligence was something that could be measured with a single number (a theory that has been disproved by the paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould, among others), and that he took seriously a genetic “ranking” of races.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @guest
    , @Anon
    , @MEH 0910
  107. My guess is Alani got to stay thanks to Reagan’s great amnesty of 1986, sold to the American public at the time as the obfuscatory “Simpson-Mazzoli act.” Maybe the most revealing thing is how he tried to play the victim card as a foreign national. This is exactly how nearly every single misbehaving immigrant rolls now, trying to put the system on trial instead of answering for their own awfulness, or heaven forbid saying, “I’m sorry. I’ll leave.” He was ahead of his time.

  108. jim jones says:
    @Moses

    Asiana has the best looking flight attendants though

  109. Jack D says:
    @Grace Jones

    This is all of a piece with the overall topsy turvy nature of modern Leftist thinking where the existing order needs to be flipped on its head – the last shall be first and vice versa. In the new order, smoking or consuming tobacco is really bad for you and we need to move in the direction of making it difficult and expensive for people to purchase and to punish the producers with large fines and taxes and civil verdicts if not outright imprisonment. However smoking or consuming DOPE is really good for you and we need to move in the direction of making it easier for people to purchase and to decriminalize its sale and distribution.

  110. Jack D says:
    @Chris Mallory

    Why set the cut off at 1790? Why not 1620 or 15,000 BC? Your proposed rule has never been the rule in all of American history, so we are on unprecedented ground here. What if one of your ancestors was German and came in 1849 but the rest were on the Mayflower? Do we send back 1/32nd of you?

    BTW, how many people (who are not black) does this leave? (BTW are blacks included? I’d rather send 40 million Africans back than 40 million German descendants, but that’s just me.) How many Americans have zero post 1790 ancestors?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    , @AnotherDad
  111. OT: The joy of our non-immigrant vibrancy:

    Crowd Stampede at Lil Wayne Concert Causes Injuries, Thefts

    Several fans were injured during a crowd stampede at Lil Wayne’s outdoor Lil WeezyAna Fest in New Orleans on Saturday night. According to the city’s Times Picayune, “large segments of an audience” estimated at 15,000 on the grounds of the University of New Orleans Lakefront Arena panicked and began running after Meek Mill’s set; police were uncertain what had triggered the crowd, but speculated that there were false reports of gunfire or possibly a fight.

    No shots were fired on the festival grounds, according to several New Orleans police officers stationed around the site.

    A medical tent and concession booths near the stage were trampled and sections of fencing were pushed down. Audience members began stealing from the concession booths, breaking into cash registers and tip jars, pouring themselves drinks or stealing bottles and taking other items, employees said.

    The show continued following the disturbance, with sets from Travis Scott and Wayne, the latter of whom brought out guests Future, DJ Khaled and local rappers Choppa and Cheeky Blakk.

    The Lil WeezyAna Fest debuted in 2015, observing the 10th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina and intended as a celebration of Lil Wayne’s hometown’s recovery. It was previously held at Bold Sphere Music at Champions Square. It was moved to the Lakefront Arena this year to accommodate a larger crowd.

    The concert took place on a “blazing hot” day, with doors opening at 2:30 p.m. By the time Mill took the stage at 8 p.m., the crowd was tightly packed and an emcee told the crowd, “I need everybody to be cool. No pushing or we’re gonna shut this sh– down.”

    “I didn’t know what was going on,” said one catering employees, George Krider. “It was a stampede. The first thing you think is, ‘Was it gunshots?’ I think it was a fight.”

    Contacted by Variety, Live Nation, which promoted the event, did not immediately have a comment.

    https://variety.com/2019/music/news/lil-wayne-crowd-stampede-injuries-new-orleans-1203328503/

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  112. @International Jew

    A huge percentage of guns (particularly handguns) used in crimes are stolen. Actually mentioning handguns is sort of repetitive on my part, since the vast majority of gun crimes involve handguns.

    But I agree that Hanson’s idea of criminal insurance won’t work, for the simple reason that it would disproportionately single out blacks. Blacks’ crime insurance premiums in relation to those for whites, Jews, Asians, etc (if allowed to accurately reflect risk) would be eye-popping. For any commenters that have added new teenage drivers to their insurance and faced that “holy crap!” moment…that difference in premiums would be tiny compared to black’s crime premiums in relation to those of others.

    As long as we operate in a clown world where we have to pretend that crime and “gun violence” aren’t almost entirely about blacks and that nothing blacks do is their own fault, there’s not any point in discussing potential solutions to the problems.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Jack D
    , @Reg Cæsar
  113. @Anon

    When confronted with a clannish culture, the punishment must be of the entire clan to be effective. Not only deportation but the loss of all property. That kind of threat will give the elders to keep the troublemakers in line.

  114. map says:

    OT:

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/leticiamiranda/amazon-orthodox-jews

    Great to be a minority disadvantaged business with religious tax protections.

  115. @Moses

    When the plane’s tail ripped off, two Chinese schoolgirls, who should have been belted in (and the inflight crew should have checked that), but weren’t, fell out of the plane and landed, alive, on the runway.

    SFO fire crews ignored them as they lay on the tarmac. OK, they were faced with a smoking plane with a lot of passengers on board and about to evacuate, so they were busy. But they left her there for fifteen minutes without checking on her, covered her with foam, and then a firetruck ran her over! That is NOT OK!

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/07/06/firefighter-said-s-happens-after-girl-run-over-at-sfo-in-2013-asiana-crash/

    “The video and internal fire department documents, including a timeline, show the plane came to a rest on the runway at 11:28 a.m. Firefighters saw Ye lying in a fetal position on the ground near the smoking plane at 11:36 a.m.

    But firefighters can be seen in the video walking past Ye without checking on her condition, rendering aid or even marking her location. The video shows the trucks applying foam to the smoking jet and apparently losing track of Ye as she lies covered in foam and is run over at 11:50 a.m. The TV report says Johnson didn’t report the body to command staff for two hours.”

  116. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    A lot of airline maintenance is actually done overseas in places like South America and China:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/2018/04/06/amount-of-outsourced-offshore-airline-maintenance-work-has-risen-report-says/

    A new report by the Transport Workers Union says that airlines are increasingly performing heavy maintenance in foreign countries, limiting the number of aircraft maintenance jobs in the U.S.

    The report said that approximately 24% of heavy aircraft maintenance is performed offshore, up from about 7% in 2003.

    The report includes estimates that U.S. airlines spend about $2 billion annually on maintenance work in South America, China and Europe, an amount that could otherwise be spent on an estimated 8,200 jobs for U.S. mechanics.

  117. J.Ross says:

    What could possibly go wrong with admitting people with different attitudes toward, say, privacy?
    https://torrentfreak.com/the-solution-to-music-piracy-in-nigeria-is-no-joke-or-is-it-190908/

    “Through GTBank’s Habari app, a platform for shopping and lifestyle content, uduX, whose name derives from a musical instrument played in Nigeria called udu, will gain access to a community of 16.8 million users,” the [here quoted April] Billboard piece reads.
    Since consumers have already entered their banking information, they can subscribe to the streaming platform in a few clicks.”

  118. J.Ross says:
    @William Badwhite

    Right, just like global warming talk stops when you ask why China is allowed to do whatever they want, everything you need to know about how serious these liars are is in Walmart’s new policy against open carrying, which is being proudly trumpeted in some states where open carrying was already illegal, and which includes a Nobel Prize winningly brilliant bit about letting the customer back into the store once he’s left his gun in his car.

  119. Jack D says:
    @William Badwhite

    If you are going to steal a gun and commit a crime with it, are you really going to take out gun insurance first? Blacks often don’t have auto insurance (despite this being legally required).

    BTW, make sure that you have “uninsured” and “underinsured” coverage on your own auto policy (with “stacked” limits). That way, when J’mailia T-bones you when she doesn’t stop at the stop sign, at least you will have coverage under your own policy.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  120. Jack D says:
    @MEH 0910

    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. That Leftists are still citing the fraud Gould as the conclusive authority on IQ with complete sincerity (I think?) makes me wonder whether all of the “climate scientists” that they love are no better than Gould. These people wouldn’t know a real scientist if he hit them with a 2 x 4 – they just want someone who will agree with their ideology.

  121. @Jack D

    ” I think the statute of limitations has run on that mistake and it would be outside the purview of your hypothetical Safety Board. ”

    This is why the right loses. It holds itself to arbitrary rules that no one else does.

    ” “Organized” labor sabotaging their employer’s equipment is a very old thing going back to the origin of the word itself.”

    Kind of like how organized lawyering (itself a trade inflated far beyond its value) has sabotaged the US criminal and civil justice systems.

    • Agree: Lot
  122. @Jack D

    How many Americans have zero post 1790 ancestors?

    I know 4 offhand. My mother, my siblings and myself.

    I think I may have a cousin or two who match the criteria.

    Other than that, there are some New England wasps, a handful of Native Americans and Native Hawaiians and Eskimos and Aleut. Maybe a few folks in Virginia.

    So I don’t really know.

    The latest one to come to America in my line was a British officer, a quartermaster who deserted when he was discovered to be embezzling from the Royal Army around 1780.

    I may have had another British Army deserter as well in the same war.

    The earliest from the Liberal family was a poor guy drinking in a pub in Liverpool, impressed into service by the Royal Navy who jumped ship in Boston. The life of rum, buggery and the lash was unappealing.

    I had other ancestors who were Indian chiefs, Jamestown and Plymouth colonists.

    I have different criteria for citizenship. Much more liberal.

    I would provide citizenship to anyone who meets the any of following, or has any ancestors who meet any of the following:

    1. Persons whose ancestors were in land when it became part of the US. That includes citizens of the original 13 states as well as Indians and other native peoples. It also includes Mexicans in areas taken in Texas or the Mexican American War, Asians in Hawaii in 1898, etc.

    2. Anyone who fought for the USA or CSA, or was honorably discharged, or their descendants.

    3. Anyone who was a Negro slave. We don’t know when they came, so include all of them.

    Interesting that Obama makes it because his white ancestors fought for the USA and CSA, but Trump does not.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    , @BB753
  123. jjjj says:
    @Mr McKenna

    he’s an antisemite rapist, i suppose at your meetings he didn’t stand out sufficiently for you to note his appearance.

  124. jjjj says:
    @Altai

    it’s pretty funny to me that the word “populist” to describe a candidate is an insult rather than a compliment

  125. jjjj says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    yeah, sportsbros who don’t make the team tend to get pretty noosy

  126. @Jack D

    Remember that WMD’s include chemical and biological weapons, not just nukes. The US (wrongly) believed that Saddam had these . . . .

    The WMD thing came from the hawks through their disinformation media. Yes, they were able to convince credulous military men that it wasn’t a lie, but don’t pretend that the military had any independent reason to believe the lie.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  127. notsaying says:

    Want to know how this man Alani came to be in the US?

    There’s some answers — and some additional interesting questions — over at cis.org:

    In this instance, an interesting smattering of facts have come out in the days following Alani’s arrest: He originally came to the United States from Iraq as the spouse of a U.S. citizen who petitioned for him; he subsequently naturalized, in 1992; when he was arraigned, his English was so poor that the judge ordered an Arabic interpreter; and at least one news outlet says that he was at one point a mechanic at both American and Alaska Airlines, but Alaska fired him for “mistakes” and irregularities of some kind (not further explained), as well as for submitting fraudulent time sheets. Subsequent to being terminated, he filed a discrimination complaint — one might guess unsuccessfully, given that the firing was not reversed.

    https://cis.org/Cadman/Journalistic-Horse-Blinders-Keep-Key-Facts-Public?&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany

  128. Jack D says:
    @ben tillman

    but don’t pretend that the military had any independent reason to believe the lie.

    Here’s an idea – I know it’s not realistic, but here it is anyway. What if the military had its own intelligence gathering apparatus upon which it could base its actions? We could call it the Military Intelligence Program (MIP) or something like that. It would employ tens of thousands of people and would have a budget of say $20,000,000,000 per year. You would think that for that kind of money you could get some actionable intelligence.

    Nah, forget it. Dumb idea.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @ben tillman
  129. Anon[975] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: House Democrats are making a bad move. “House Dems Probe Whether Trump, Giuliani Pressured Ukraine To Hurt Biden’s Campaign.”

    In other words, the House Dems are unaware that swing voters and low information voters aren’t really aware of Biden’s underhanded corruption in the Ukraine. The more the Dems talk about it, the more the swing voters and low info voters will become aware that dopy Biden is as corrupt as Hillary. It’s as damaging to Biden as a probe into Republican complaints about Jane Sanders’ destruction of a college would be to her husband Bernie. Poor tactics.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-09/house-dems-probe-whether-trump-giuliani-pressured-ukraine-hurt-bidens-campaign

  130. @Paleo Liberal

    “It also includes Mexicans in areas taken in Texas or the Mexican American War”

    This does not include mestizos of Aztec descent.

    ” Anyone who was a Negro slave. We don’t know when they came, so include all of them. ”

    How do you propose to deal with them? Are you going to live among them? Haven’t you been supplied with enough evidence that as a group they are not equipped to function productively and without subsidy within a Western society?

  131. @International Jew

    I stand corrected. Misinterpreted the 1992 citizenship to mean he arrived then.

    Also sort of forgot that people aren’t awarded citizenship instantly.

    I mean, they aren’t, are they? Hard to keep track.

  132. @TomSchmidt

    Having an invasion force of hundreds of thousands wiped out by a nuke or chemical weapon would be unthinkable for a 4-star, yet they had amassed force that could have been wiped out by such.

    Exactly right! Which is why American troops were pulled out of Germany in 1948 — once the Soviets had a nuclear capability it was too risky to keep large combat divisions in easy range of Soviet missiles.

  133. BB753 says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    So, does Trump have to go back?

  134. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    This is lying. They publicly and repeatedly appealed to an unambiguous common popular understanding of the term and then later claimed that an imminent and war-justifying threat involving a mushroom cloud clearly referred to inert chemical weapons sold by Gin Rummy.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @Jack D
  135. Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani = A jaded Muhammad, unreliable oaf.

  136. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    It’s not a good idea to play sarcastic with such a dysfunctional government, or with such a sore and oft-demonstrated broken link as our military and our intelligence apparatus. If I had Tenet (or Comey, or a lot of these bemedalled nothings) as my subordinate I would absolutely look into quiet redundancy while letting him think I was listening to him.

  137. @Jack D

    Citizenship and it’s rights and privileges should only apply to natural born citizens born of natural born citizens going back to 1790. Everyone else is just a guest.

    Why set the cut off at 1790? Why not 1620 or 15,000 BC? Your proposed rule has never been the rule in all of American history, so we are on unprecedented ground here. What if one of your ancestors was German and came in 1849 but the rest were on the Mayflower? Do we send back 1/32nd of you?

    Jack, he didn’t say “send back”, Chris said “guest”.

    I’ve thought a bit about voting criteria–mostly along the lines of “family voting” only by self-supporting families. (Trying to deal fairly with the women suffrage debacle, but also the young people and welfare clients debacles as well.) But haven’t thought along these lines about the issue of “citizenship”.

    Chris’s suggestion is interesting. I think it would actually be quite good. It would tend to encourage people to marry into the American mainstream–the American race. (My dad wouldn’t be a citizen, but i would be. My wife would not, but my kids would be.) It’s explicitness, would reinforce the idea of there being an actual nation. And it would tie people to the nation’s past and to it’s future.

    No more pretense of joyriders and piggybackers as “citizens”. No more lame 4th grade citizenship test and viola!, you’re magically a “citizen”. America’s a project that you commit your lineage to … or are not part of period. Good stuff. Actually great stuff.

    Our founders–obviously–didn’t have everything figured out. And they had no idea what was to come. As i’ve said before the reason there isn’t an explicit right of freedom of association is that stripping it away was simply inconceivable. (The government abuse they could foresee was something like forcing you to quarter troops–which they explicitly protected against.) If they saw what we had today they would be appalled. If they saw the open borders and “nation of immigrants” crap that’s being said today they’d be apoplectic.

    I think if that founders had understood what was to come, they might well have come up with something like this. Certainly if you were designing a nation’s operation and organization, its constitution, from scratch, and yet wanted to be open to some tiny amount of immigration of quality people, then such a system would be valuable.

    Of course, we’re light years away from political sanity like this. Right now, you’re a “Nazi!” if you don’t think people should be allowed to stream right in from every shithole country in the world. Our nation, citizenship, is treated as if it has no meaning as all–a disposal tissue.

  138. Corvinus says:
    @Chris Mallory

    “Citizenship and it’s rights and privileges should only apply to natural born citizens born of natural born citizens going back to 1790. Everyone else is just a guest.”

    Doesn’t work that way, son. Congress has the authority to create immigration law and criteria for those deemed eligible.

    Your Voxian effort is all for naught, shill.

  139. How did that guy ever get licensed? Ah, the times, they are a changin’. For the worse.

    Perhaps I am a Bad Person (TM), but I must admit to not being surprised at learning the perp’s name. Before the end of the Cold War, no airline or contractor worth a pinch of salt would have let that guy near an aircraft.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  140. 216 says: • Website

  141. guest says:
    @Cato

    Also, we can strip citizenship and exile people. There’s precedent.

  142. guest says:
    @Johann Ricke

    The cold, dead hand that grips the privilege holds the wealth.

  143. guest says:
    @MEH 0910

    A single number? You have to be truly stupid to get fewer than 10 IQ points. Not sure a 9 could even be tested.

    I pity anyone who finds it “unpleasant reading” to learn some guy believed IQ is a thing.

    Invocation of Gould is to be expected, I suppose. Because no one can think of this field too long, and his is a famous name. But it’s funny that he’s identified as a paleontologist when that obviously has nothing to do with measuring human intelligence. Beyond filling empty skulls with Butterfinger BBs, or whatever it was. Which I wouldn’t assume had anything to do with Moynihan’s conversation.

    Even so, Gould didn’t disprove earlier results of that sort of experiment, either.

  144. Anon[142] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s views on race

    Yikes. There is a link to a Nixon secret tape of a phone conversation between Nixon and Moynihan (I hadn’t realized Moynihan was a Nixon staffer). It’s mostly Nixon talking, but Moynihan is chiming in with plenty of “yeps” to some pretty surprising statements of Nixon’s (some of which are HBD and un-PC).

    At one point Nixon asks whether it’s true that if you put blacks into a community with whites it doesn’t lower things for whites, and Moynihan jumps in with “Yes, up to a point …” and Nixon interrupts him.

    Hernstein and Jensen are mentioned favorably. Nixon says that he thinks this stuff is true, that it’s important for him to know it as president, but that it can never be said out loud, for fear of encouraging a latent prejudice and negative reaction among black voters.

    Overall Nixon comes across as pretty well read, thoughtful, knowledgeable, and fairly compassionate (albeit completely outrageous by today’s standards).

    Nixon: “Looking at the black countries … they have a hell of a time running the place …”

    Moynihan: “A pretty miserable world.”

    The tape is excellent quality, very clear. Moynihan starts at 1:32:00, goes through 1:58:00.


    (The phone call after this is with John Mitchell, in which Nixon orders him to send in the immigration enforcement guys to follow up on a tip that Los Angeles Times publisher Otis Chandler’s gardener is an illegal alien, and to look into the L.A. Times in general relating to “wetbacks.”)

    • Replies: @Romanian
  145. @Jack D

    Apparently so. Steve and Justin Raimondo and I could have done infinitely better for one one-millionth of the cost.

  146. Ann Coulter’s Tinder for immigrants

  147. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Trace, KTMP

    A&P schools aggressively recruit Middle Easterners for various reasons. If they have no felonies, drug busts, or active records of suspected terrorist activity they have no problem getting licensed.

    Many Middle Eastern A&P students wind up going back to their home countries or other Arabic speaking lands as there is a huge demand for mechanics fluent in both Arabic and “Aviation English” in those countries. American (white) grads are as likely to wind up working as elevator mechnics or for the railroad as for a decent airline.

    General aviation is always hiring but starting pay and working conditions are dismal. People with turbine corporate jet or helo experience can make good money but FBOs with rental and instruction recip fleets pay truly shitty wages. Of course, you can always go to some very hot or very cold place and work on really old aircraft, once you have experience on those types, but-it’s really cold in Alaska, and really hot in the tropics.

    If you define success as actually getting a good aviation job, A&P schools are not very successful. But elevator mechanics do well and the railroad is the last really good blue collar job out there.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  148. Mr. Anon says:
    @Whiskey

    Partial win for the US. Secured partially the northern Saudi flank.

    Secured against whom?

    loss for Israel.

    Win for Israel – post Iraq-war, they were getting 3/4 of their oil from Kurdistan.

    They lose the counter balance to Iran their most dangerous and organised enemy.

    The US is thier counter balance.

    Not that I expected any analysis from an unreconstituted idiot like you to be worth a damn.

    Nitwit.

  149. black sea says:
    @Jack D

    The US really sucks at intelligence, especially human intelligence.

    One of the reasons why the US sucks at intelligence is that the intelligence-gathering process is so shamelessly politicized. This was certainly the case in the run-up to the Iraq invasion, when both the CIA and DIA were subject to ever-escalating pressure to arrive at preferred conclusions. Many of those who declined to go along with the story line were marginalized and ultimately excluded from the process.

    Eventually, the administration just set up a shadow intelligence agency, The Office of Special Plans, which could be relied on to re-shape or fabricate evidence justifying the invasion. This was on one level an act of idiocy, or perhaps more accurately, hubris. On the other hand, it did get them what they wanted, so maybe from their standpoint it wasn’t so stupid after all.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jul/17/iraq.usa

    • Replies: @Jack D
  150. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    A lot of people think that the US really knew that Saddam had no WMDs and attacked anyway in order to please the Zionists or something,…….

    A lot of people think that because it’s true. The OSP within the Pentagon fabricated the “evidence” that served as the pretext for the war – a war that some Zionists had been shilling for long before 9/11.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  151. Daniel H says:
    @Jack D

    The US really sucks at intelligence, especially human intelligence.

    Yep. Credentialed Ivy league dip-sh*ts. The CIA ideal. Only good for writing papers and getting A’s.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  152. @Tiny Duck

    C’mon guys, don’t feed the droll.

    Nice juxtaposition, well done TD.

  153. @bucky

    And? This sort of BS is common among middle aged working men. White men too.
    He wasn’t ideologically motivated. He wasn’t nationalistically motivated or religiously motivated.

    It’s not “common” but sure it’s exists. Still it’s much less likely from Americans than foreigners.

    And bottom line, the guy is a doofus and asshole. Are we really so short of our own doofuses and assholes that we need to be importing them?

  154. Lot says:
    @Mr McKenna

    “However, the few times we do send them back they just turn around and enter again.”

    And again, and again, and again. For Kate Steinle’s killer, five deportations.

    “García Zárate arrived in the U.S. sometime before 1991, the year he was convicted of his first drug charge in Arizona. In 1993, he was convicted three times in Washington state for felony heroin possession and manufacturing narcotics. Following another drug conviction and jail term, this time in Oregon, the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) deported García Zárate in June 1994. However, García Zárate returned to the U.S. within two years and was convicted again of heroin possession in Washington state. He was deported for the second time in 1997.

    On February 2, 1998, García Zárate was deported for the third time, after reentering the U.S. through Arizona. United States Border Patrol caught him six days later at a border crossing, and a federal court sentenced García Zárate to five years and three months in federal prison for unauthorized reentry. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), successor of the INS, deported García Zárate in 2003 for his fourth deportation. However, he reentered the U.S. through the Texas border and got another federal prison sentence for reentry before being deported for the fifth time in June 2009.

    Less than three months after his fifth deportation, García Zárate was caught attempting to cross the border in Eagle Pass, Texas. He pleaded guilty to felony reentry; upon sentencing, a federal court recommended García Zárate be placed in “a federal medical facility as soon as possible”.

    On March 26, 2015, at the request of the San Francisco Sheriff’s Department (SFSD), United States Bureau of Prisons (BOP) had turned García Zárate over to San Francisco authorities for an outstanding drug warrant. San Francisco officials transported García Zárate to San Francisco County Jail on March 26, 2015, to face a 20-year-old felony charge of selling and possessing marijuana after García Zárate completed his latest prison term in San Bernardino County for entering in the country without the proper documents.

    U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) had issued a detainer for García Zárate requesting that he be kept in custody until immigration authorities could pick him up. However, as a sanctuary city, San Francisco’s “Due Process for All” ordinance restricted cooperation with ICE to only cases where the immigrant had both current violent felony charges and past violent felony convictions; therefore, San Francisco disregarded the detainer and released him.

  155. @J.Ross

    Chelsea Handler (a blonde Canadian Mormon-Jew…)

    New Jersey isn’t in Canada.

    But one can dream. The Garden Province would be the second-smallest by area, but the second-largest by population:

    https://roadsidethoughts.com/ranked-by-area.htm
    https://roadsidethoughts.com/ranked-by-population.htm

    As for “Mormon-Jew”, is that Zionism squared?

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  156. @Diversity is Great!

    Is she going to avoid Bosnians then? There are also plenty of very white Muslims in places like Syria, Turkey and Russia.

    The recent leftist racist tick of finding things that white people „don‘t do“ (e.g. speak Spanish well, eat spicy food) that many white people do in fact do, annoys the piss out of me for some reason.

  157. @Altai

    “People don’t like Southern Italians because they tend to be particularly anti-social to outgroups “

    Italians, especially from the North, don’t like Southern Italians. That’s how the Lega Nord got started, as a Northern independence movement.

  158. @Anonymous

    “A&P schools aggressively recruit Middle Easterners for various reasons.”

    Because they’re spending the oil money on establishing mega-airlines, helped by the fact that the Middle East is a natural stopover/refuelling/interchange for Europe-Far East flights ?

    In the UK, Etihad, Gulf Air and Emirates are major players. Quatar Airways Cargo is the third largest cargo carrier in the world.

  159. yeah, that will happen Real Soon Now…lol @ thinking the establishment is gonna one single thing to stop immigration or slow it down in the least…and that includes your precious faux-populist trump…

  160. yeah, that is gonna happen Real Soon Now…lol at the idea of the establishment doing anything at all that might slow down immigration in the least…what color is the sky in your world?

  161. Brutusale says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    More Mormon or more Jewish? Well, she had TWO abortions as a teenager, so I think we have a conclusive answer.

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/entertainment/chelsea-handler-abortion-essay/index.html

    • Replies: @Jack D
  162. Jack D says:
    @black sea

    The choice now is that either the intelligence apparatus manipulates the administration by having the intelligence express the CIA’s political preferences or vice versa. Since the CIA is unelected and not politically accountable, I prefer the latter. It would be better if the CIA (FBI, etc.) didn’t have their own political goals and were merely the humble presenters of facts and left politics to the representatives elected by the people, but that train has left the station. It would also be nice if reporters would write objectively and not as if they were Democrat party operatives, but that seems out of reach at present also.

    Having the Permanent Government and the press consist mainly of Democrat Party operatives is not a healthy situation. When a Republican is in the White House, he feels (is) besieged by 5th columnists and when a Democrat rules he just gets a bunch of “you go girl” boosterism and no objective advice.

  163. Jack D says:
    @Brutusale

    Well, since both religions frown on abortion (and pre-marital sex) I’d say she’s neither and her real religion is Godless Globo-homoism. If you are going to let your daughter go down this road, at least get her some contraception. All those abortions are not good for your body.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  164. @Mr. Anon

    A lot of people think that the US really knew that Saddam had no WMDs

    A lot of people think that because it’s true.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#Proving_a_negative

  165. @William Badwhite

    that nothing blacks do is their own fault,

    The whole point of HBD is that nothing blacks do is their own fault. It’s Mother Nature’s.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  166. @Chris Mallory

    Citizenship and it’s rights and privileges should only apply to natural born citizens born of natural born citizens going back to 1790.

    The election laws in Kuwait before our unwise alliance forced us to invade limited the vote to male adults whose families had been in the country by 1920.

  167. @Reg Cæsar

    The whole point of HBD is that nothing blacks do is their own fault. It’s Mother Nature’s.

    Then continue to follow the logic: If “Mother Nature” made them so that nothing they do is their own fault, from a policy perspective it makes sense to treat them differently.

    “Sensible gun control” could be redefined from “ineffective measures that will do nothing to reduce gun violence but will make effete’ liberal ninnies feel better” to a much more effective “blacks can not own or possess firearms”. I’m a pretty staunch gun rights guy, but that is gun control I would support.

  168. @Spud Boy

    You don’t understand the conversation. References to 1988 are irrelevant.

  169. Spud Boy says:

    “References to 1988 are irrelevant.”

    So what’s the point? That he had WMDs in 1988, but mysteriously forgot how to produce them at the time of the Iraq war? Makes perfect sense, not.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  170. @J.Ross

    The common popular understanding was that “WMDs” meant chemical weapons.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  171. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    IF WMD was just a synonym for nuclear weapons, then why not just say nuclear weapons?

    I distinctly remember Colin Powell’s presentation to the UN on Saddam’s “weapons of mass destruction”. I remember his slide showing Saddam’s “mobile biological labs” . It seemed very convincing at the time. There were all sorts of arrows and notations showing the different features that these vans had that pointed to them being made for this purpose. Here is the slide:

    Part of being a persuasive speaker like Powell is that (especially if you believe it yourself, as I believe he did) you can be very convincing even if you are 100% wrong. Whe Powell spoke, I totally believed him. It really didn’t occur to me at the time that our intelligence services were run by idiots who couldn’t tell a biological lab from a British made hydrogen generator for weather balloons.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  172. Spud Boy says:
    @ben tillman

    “You’re an idiot.”

    Spoken like a man who’s lost the argument. Thanks for playing.

  173. @Jack D

    If you are going to steal a gun and commit a crime with it, are you really going to take out gun insurance first? Blacks often don’t have auto insurance (despite this being legally required).

    Yes, this was my basic point: You can’t talk honestly about crime without eventually getting around to “what are we going to do about blacks?”

    Hanson’s idea of “A different solution, one that should induce less of this discomfort, is to require people to buy general legal liability insurance” is silly because it doesn’t address the basic question at the root of any discussion of crime: “what are we going to do about blacks?”

    They don’t buy auto insurance, they smoke in no-smoking areas, they curse in public, they disregard laws against theft, battery, and homicide. FFS, looking at their reactions to the St. Trayvon of Skittles mess they seem to believe they should have a right to commit crimes with impunity. A requirement to buy “general legal liability insurance” would be just another clause in the social contract they break.

  174. J.Ross says:
    @ben tillman

    What chemical weapon is derived from yellowcake uranium? They tried to imply nukes without saying nukes, got repeatedly exposed, and hoped people would think anthrax, which wouldn’t justify invasion.
    The only thing they could mean without the whole effort being a war crime would be something that could justify invasion.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  175. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Not idiots, liars, and as you well know (and wierdly go on to effectively say), ambiguity lets you get away with things. The real issue isn’t what variety of fantasy Saddam wasn’t doing. The real issue was that this was supposed to be an emergency forcing our hand. Are you okay with us invading a country because it has the means, the material, and possibly the motive to manufacture chemical weapons? That’s a lot more countries than are on the possibles list for nuclear material, and they have a lot more legitimate reasons for having those things.

  176. J.Ross says:
    @Spud Boy

    The reason we can’t bury that “canard” is because it’s not a canard, it’s a lawyer trick, it’s like Hitler pointing to Jewish organized crime. Jewish organized crime existed. It does nothing to justify Hitler. We weren’t judging Saddam’s soul, we were justifying a Hitlerite war of aggression as necessitated by a supposed dire emergency. Was that decision helped or hurt by a disputed incident which happened under our supervision and probably with materials we supplied during a war we told our ally Saddam to fight to paper over a botched mass-torture operation we ran for years after we overthrew a democratically elected government by criminally misusing embassy privilege? Do you begin to see why this “canard” was not more persuasive?

  177. eah says:

  178. eah says:

    Texas man pleads guilty in 2012 so-called honor killing

    “Texas man”

    Background here –> Authorities Say Ali Irsan Stole Out of Greed and Murdered Out of Honor

    Unbelievable — an unbelievably sordid story of immigration malfeasance.

  179. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Well, since both religions frown on abortion (and pre-marital sex) I’d say she’s neither and her real religion is Godless Globo-homoism. If you are going to let your daughter go down this road, at least get her some contraception. All those abortions are not good for your body.

    Judaism the actual religion does, but secular reform Jews (like members of mainline Protestnt denominations and cafeteria or lapsed Catholics) are effectively irreligious and Jews in this category have the highest rates of this stuff, though to their credit, most Jewish girls do a better job of contraception than others. When they get pregnant it’s on purpose, unless they are real sluts, like Chelsea, and most of them are mixed. They tend to be high IQ and understand female biology nd follow the instructions.

  180. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

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  181. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @William Badwhite

    Blacks who are not criminals should be allowed to defend themselves but the firearms they have access to and the circumstances they can pack them in should be restricted. In their house they can have what they want. When out and about they should be limited as to caliber and number of rounds fireable and what they can carry. No crunchentickers, those facilitate spray and pray ghetto attacks. Single or two shot breakopen guns in any caliber, revolvers in .38 six shots, lead soft bullets only and no speedloaders, or autoloaders with pinned magazines for six rounds, carried Condition Two, GI ball only.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @William Badwhite
  182. frank scott says: • Website

    a longer and more in depth news report indicated that “airline experts” said no danger would have been suffered by passengers since a system was in place – and worked – to identify the flaw in the machine. this is not fake news entirely, but an item made to seem far more important by the political bias of the reporting (?) business. the guy needed money and stooped low to get some. he may be qualified to serve in congress or the white house.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  183. Cato says:
    @Mr. Anon

    My citizenship was “earned,” but not by me, it was earned by my ancestors, who came early in the 17th century and carved a homeland out of a wilderness. I owe my citizenship to my ancestors, and I am under obligation to them, to preserve and improve the country that they began.

  184. J.Ross says:
    @MEH 0910

    Murray is right, and being Murray, wrong: there is no pushback in the echo chamber of respectable establishment mainstream media. There is pushback (or at least explanations of how the MSM is wrong) in alternative and new media — places Murray shuns. Then establishmentarian activists and unaccountable tech trusts or ISPs declare new media to be racist or magically dangerous, and shut it down, with the implied (and sometimes voiced) support of people like Murray. The self-injuring worshippers of the idol Respectability.

  185. J.Ross says:
    @Anonymous

    This is dancing around the fact that our law is an unworkable farce until it is updated with existing biological data. Once that is done, this and many other things are quickly settled.

  186. @William Badwhite

    … to a much more effective “blacks can not own or possess firearms”. I’m a pretty staunch gun rights guy, but that is gun control I would support.

    Nah, that stance is a 5G self-own. That’s right, it’s cancer. See this debate between me and Reg Cæsar (#256, etc.) :

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/beto-pledges-to-sharpton-to-pass-reparations-bill/#comment-3139005

    • Replies: @Jack D
  187. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    The problem with Sanders is that unlike Trump he might actually cut immigration.

    • Replies: @Altai
  188. Romanian says: • Website
    @Anon

    I can’t run it. It does not load. Do you have a link to youtube version or something?

  189. @Anonymous

    Blacks who are not criminals should be allowed to defend themselves

    Nah, I’d ban all of them. Most blacks who are not criminals know or are related to blacks that are criminals. Their defending themselves should begin with not tolerating criminality in their own communities. Even blacks that are not criminals often go to great lengths to make excuses for and cover up for criminals. If society really wants “effective gun control”, barring any and all blacks from possessing firearms would be the way to go.

  190. Jack D says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Like many threads here, that one (and the even older thread that it referenced) petered out before it was really fully chewed over. “Incorporation” of the Bill of Rights into the requirements of state law, either via the 14th Amendment or via the even shakier “Privileges and Immunities” clause argument, is recent and part and parcel of the Federal power grab that started around the election of FDR (the 1st “incorporation” case, involving the 1st Amendment, was decided in 1925. After that, almost all of the rights in the Bill (other than ones that are largely obsolete – e.g. quartering of troops) were incorporated one by one in a series of S. Ct. cases that culminated with McDonald in 2010.

    Your attitude toward incorporation usually depends on what right is being talked about. Conservatives liked the idea of the 2nd Amendment being applicable to all of the states and were not so wild about the idea that you couldn’t pray in the schools anymore because of the incorporation of the 1st Amendment. Leftists – vice versa. But ultimately the effect has been to increase the power of the Federal government as the ultimate referee of EVERYTHING, which gave the Court even greater power to not only invent rights that were never know to exist in all of history (the “right” to abort a fetus, the “right” of men to marry other men, etc. but to impose these rights onto every state. The states each still have constitutions but they don’t mean much anymore because they are highly constrained by Federal rulings.

    The fact that the Bill of Rights was not incorporated prior to 1925 (and that the 14th Amendment wasn’t passed until the end of the Civil War) didn’t mean that the residents of the states lived under tyranny before then. Many of the rights in the Bill of Rights were, in the views of the Founding Fathers, natural rights that all free people living under common law had already – they were just writing them down. Leaving a right out of the bill of rights didn’t mean that you didn’t have it to begin with. And the states and their constitutions were founded under the same system so if you had a natural right as a free citizen to, for example, keep and bear arms under the Federal constitution you should have the same right under your state’s constitution (whether or not it was written down in it). But you should talk to the courts and legislature in your own state about this and not go crying to Papa Federal government to tell the sovereign states what to do with respect to their citizens.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  191. Jack D says:
    @frank scott

    The system worked this time but would it work 100% of the time? We supposedly had a system in place for screening passengers on 9/11 (remember that date?) and it didn’t work. What if instead of one Ali sabotaging planes we had 10 or 100 of them. Would they all get caught?

    • Replies: @frank scott
  192. frank scott says: • Website
    @Jack D

    what’s important to remember, or consider for the first time, is that 911 did not happen simply because some muslim fundamentalists ( like christian and jewish types only far less destructive, so far) decided, after having breakfast, to hijack planes and kill americans before lunch, but because americans have been financing the theft of a nation and the slaughter of so many in their part of the world…if we get the hell out of their lives and focus on cleaning up our murderous own moral sewer of thousands of homeless families, millions of children in poverty , hundreds of billions spent on war and tens of billions spent on pets, there will be no further problem with “terrorism” from foreigners. meanwhile, watch out for american drivers: they kill 100 of us every single day!

    • Replies: @Jack D
  193. Altai says:
    @Anonymous

    Good point. Bigger issues is that after Trump and Sanders are done, will anybody have a policy other than MOAR IMMGRATION!

    Tulsi seems to give some hope that at least anti-war candidates can still emerge. It might be the flaw with the primary voters. Since they tend to skew older, they don’t consume non-MSM and somebody without the gatekeeper approval won’t get through to them. Trump seemed to short-circuit this because the media couldn’t stop covering him using him as a foil to attempt to paint his policies as crazy forgetting that they only thought that because they’d successfully suppressed any dissent on them since the fall of the Soviet Union. By giving him air time they were disseminating his message. The whole media cycle became one big Trump campaign ad.

    Will they make that mistake with another candidate (Gabbard seems to have simply fallen off the face of the Earth) or would that candidate need to be as pugnacious as Trump to force them to cover him. The mechanism seems simple enough Populist policies + Insult the media directly to trick them into covering you + Use non-gatekeeper internet sources of media such as YouTube/Twitter. Whereas Trump had a large amount of personal wealth, if a candidate was good enough they could take enough money through crowdfunding. (Which you don’t need much of if you constantly upload videos on YouTube in lieu of campaign ads.)

    • Replies: @black sea
  194. @Daniel H

    Somebody once said something like, “Working for the CIA is reading intel reports in an air-conditioned office at Langley, not suffering constant diarhea being undercover in some third world shit hole”. The Israelis at least get their hands dirty.

  195. Jack D says:
    @frank scott

    This is completely wrong. “Leave them alone and they’ll leave us alone” doesn’t work, especially not with Islam. What pissed bin Laden off the most was not Israel but that the US had troops on holy Muslim soil in Saudi Arabia, never mind that we were there to save their asses, and the Kuwaitis, from Saddam. The mistake that Americans always make is that they think everyone thinks like an American – what would I do if this situation was reversed. Alien people have alien modes of thought that are completely unlike our own – they are not the same or the opposite, they are just different.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  196. MEH 0910 says:

  197. black sea says:
    @Altai

    (Gabbard seems to have simply fallen off the face of the Earth)

    I think she was pushed.

  198. @Jack D

    This is completely wrong. “Leave them alone and they’ll leave us alone” doesn’t work, especially not with Islam. What pissed bin Laden off the most was not Israel but that the US had troops on holy Muslim soil in Saudi Arabia, never mind that we were there to save their asses, and the Kuwaitis, from Saddam. The mistake that Americans always make is that they think everyone thinks like an American – what would I do if this situation was reversed. Alien people have alien modes of thought that are completely unlike our own – they are not the same or the opposite, they are just different.

    Do they even have to be pissed off? Was Alexander pissed off when he decided to conquer the world? What people don’t understand is that eternal verities don’t go away just because we’ve decided to pull the wool over our own eyes. The non-West has adopted Western technologies. It hasn’t necessarily adopted Western ways of thought re things like armed conquest. It’s a pretty good bet that the only thing Iraqis regret about conquering Kuwait is the American intervention that pushed them out.

    • Replies: @TWS
  199. @Jack D

    Like many threads here, that one (and the even older thread that it referenced) petered out before it was really fully chewed over.

    They didn’t peter out, Reg politely begged off with with a plaintive rhetorical question and you simply stopped responding after a multi-point rebuttal. Basically, I won both ‘debates’.

    The states each still have constitutions but they don’t mean much anymore because they are highly constrained by Federal rulings.

    Okay, now you’re getting it …

    But you should talk to the courts and legislature in your own state about this and not go crying to Papa Federal government to tell the sovereign states what to do with respect to their citizens.

    Too late for that, old-timer. Despite what Pepperidge Farm remembers about the halcyon antebellum era or before 1925, “Papa Federal government” has been having his way with his state-wives for quite some time now.

    My point of using the Fourteenth to bolster the Bill of Rights (the BoR is no mere formality by the way, it’s long been a major part of ongoing enforceable SCOTUS jurisprudence as you’ve already admitted—1925 is almost a century ago) is to steer Papa FedGov to lay down the law to Patriotic liking when some state-wives get uppity.

    If any state-wives don’t like it, they should attempt to get a divorce, i.e. leave the marital Union. But as we all know, Papa FedGov is a jealous patriarch and will go to war to prevent that.

    sovereign states

    LOL. Jack, you should declare yourself a “sovereign citizen” and refuse to pay federal income taxes. Let me know how that works out.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  200. Jack D says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If you like the Bill of Rights, then don’t forget the last one:

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    Your idea that you should press the S. Ct. to incorporate the amendments that YOU like has certainly been a popular approach, but the result has been that ALL of them get incorporated – the ones that you like and the ones that you don’t, over time. It’s a one way ratchet.

    It’s true that state sovereignty lies largely in shambles and that’s a pity. The South pressed for all or nothing and they didn’t realize that “nothing” was one of the choices. I’m not sure that just throwing in the towel on it is really the right approach. The Constitutional scheme was not a joke – it was a brilliant scheme and when we mess with it we do so at our own risk. Maybe the train left the station a long time ago, but before McDonald everyone thought that the 2nd Amendment was a dead letter too. Until an amendment gets repealed, it’s still there. It may lie dormant for a while but it can be switched back on.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  201. @Jack D

    … but the result has been that ALL of them get incorporated – the ones that you like and the ones that you don’t, over time. It’s a one way ratchet.

    I’m okay with that.

    The South pressed for all or nothing and they didn’t realize that “nothing” was one of the choices.

    Or, they knew the risks and decided it was worth the fight anyway. I don’t get the impression that Southern whites then or now are full of weepy regret about their defiance. Not liking the outcome does not automatically mean rueing one’s actions that helped lead to that outcome.

    Maybe the train left the station a long time ago, but before McDonald everyone thought that the 2nd Amendment was a dead letter too.

    Who’s “everyone”? Significantly, some major guns laws have been liberalized, e.g., the march of shall-issue and unrestricted carry across the nation, starting in 1980s. Those changes were won in part by advocates citing 2A.

    Until an amendment gets repealed, it’s still there. It may lie dormant for a while but it can be switched back on.

    Right. As Sailer has mused, the Sapir-Whorf effect explains how having known words for a concept (or a right) can shape how people think and act, and support common agreement the such a right exists, or existed. Thus, even neglected standing Amendments can act as a constraining tripwire for those attempting the trample the rights enumerated thereof.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  202. Jack D says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Well maybe not “everyone”- there are always people with views that are out of step with the current jurisprudence, like my view that the 10th Amendment must mean SOMETHING and that Federal power should not be unlimited.

    But for most of the 20th century, all the smart people thought that the 2nd Amendment only applied to members of the militia and maybe to weapons that were around in the 18th century. You could join the National Guard and they would keep a rifle for you at the nearest armory and in times of war or insurrection they would temporarily issue it to you. Congress, under the 2nd Amendment, could never pass a law forbidding the states from having their own militias so the Federal Army would never have a monopoly of force that leads to tyranny.

    It sure didn’t give you a right to concealed carry your own personal machine gun. Anyone who thought that was a nut in the same category as the folks who don’t think they have to pay income taxes. Just try it and see what BATF says.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  203. “But for most of the 20th century, all the smart people thought that the 2nd Amendment only applied to members of the militia and maybe to weapons that were around in the 18th century.”

    Really? Pretty amazing assertions.

    https://www.constitution.org/2ll/schol/jfp5ch01.htm

    The Right to Keep and Bear Arms under the Second and Fourteenth Amendments
    The Framers’ Intent and Supreme Court Jurisprudence

    United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259, 108 L.Ed.2d 222, 110 S.Ct. 1056 (1990) makes clear that the Second Amendment protects the rights of all law-abiding persons. The Court stated:

    “The people” seems to have been a term of art employed in select parts of the Constitution…. The Second Amendment protects “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,” and the Ninth and Tenth Amendments provide that certain rights and powers are retained by and reserved to “the people.” See also U.S. Const., Amdt. 1, (“Congress shall make no law … abridging … the right of the people peaceably to assemble”); Art. I, § 2, cl. 1 (“The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second year by the People of the several States”)(emphasis added). While this textual exegesis is by no means conclusive, it suggests that “the people” protected by the Fourth Amendment, and by the First and Second Amendments, and to whom rights and powers are reserved in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, refers to a class of persons who are part of a national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection with this country to be considered part of that community. 108 L.Ed.2d at 232-33 (emphasis added in part.)

    Militia weapons at a minimum constitute semi-automatic rifles:

    “It sure didn’t give you a right to concealed carry your own personal machine gun.”

    Right. That must be why Illinois’ multiple decade prohibition against concealed weapon carry was OVERTURNED by a Federal judge and NOW Chicago residents can FINALLY shoot criminals with CCW.

    Personal MGs were completely covered by the Second Amendment. That’s why the Gun Controller Cosmopolitans chose to use a FEDERAL TAX to try to limit ownership of MGs in the National Firearms Act of 1934.

  204. @Jack D

    But for most of the 20th century, all the smart people thought that the 2nd Amendment only applied to members of the militia and maybe to weapons that were around in the 18th century.

    Well apparently those allegedly “smart” people were outsmarted by even smarter people.

    You could join the National Guard and they would keep a rifle for you at the nearest armory and in times of war or insurrection they would temporarily issue it to you.

    Sure, if you were a member of the National Guard. But the militia in the Second Amendment refers to the unorganized militia, i.e. common civilians: its context, the Bill of Rights, makes that obvious.

    Members of the unorganized militia, typically all able-bodied free white men, would keep their own weapons and ammo at home (e.g., Minutemen). Of course, their guns and ammo were not only for exclusive use in a militia context—they were personally used for any and all legal purposes.

    Practically speaking, the unorganized militia (in modern times consisting of all able-bodied adult civilians in good legal standing) is a vastly larger potential force than the cohort serving in the National Guard (which is a reserve force of the United States Armed Forces and almost entirely beholden to federal authority).

    It sure didn’t give you a right to concealed carry your own personal machine gun. (…) Just try it and see what BATF says.

    Hasn’t stopped Jerry Miculek. 😉

  205. @J.Ross

    I don’t recall any mention of uranium until after the invasion.

  206. TWS says:
    @Johann Ricke

    The Mahdi has living descendants. Perhaps one of them could be persuaded to start the show.

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