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From the Texas Monthly, a series of true crime articles about a Houston armored car robber who invented a new wrinkle to speed things up: just immediately kill the messenger carrying the bag of money without asking him to put his hands up.

The Doting Boyfriend Who Robbed Armored Cars

Beginning in 2015, Houston was plagued by a series of brutal armored car robberies that bewildered FBI agents for nearly two years. To finally bring down the unassuming mastermind behind it all, the agents had to stage an elaborate trap—and catch him in the act.

BY SKIP HOLLANDSWORTH
DATE APR 18, 2018

In September 2016, when FBI agents first started tailing Redrick “Red” Batiste, he seemed to be an ordinary young man leading an ordinary life. Batiste was 36 years old, tall and slim, with dark eyes and an easy smile. He lived with his two bulldogs in a two bedroom, 956-square-foot house in Acres Homes, a modest neighborhood twelve miles north of the skyscrapers of downtown Houston.

By most indications, he was exceedingly straitlaced. He dressed well, usually wearing pullover polo shirts and tightly belted cargo pants. Once a week, he went to a barbershop to get a haircut and a manicure. He was so meticulous about keeping his house clean that he asked visitors to take off their shoes before coming inside so they wouldn’t track dirt across the carpet. …

Every year, there are between 25 to 35 attempted armored car robberies in the United States. By comparison, approximately 4,000 banks are robbed in the same span. There’s a simple reason for this glaring difference: there is far less peril in robbing a bank than an armored car. …

A criminal who robs an armored car, however, knows he’s putting his life on the line. Drivers and messengers for armored car companies are not paid to be amicable. “The employees have been trained to use deadly force the moment they believe they are in imminent danger of bodily harm,” says Jim McGuffey, a security consultant who spent 26 years working in the armored car industry. “That’s standard practice. They don’t have to wait for the robber to shoot first.”

Still, the greater the risk, the greater the reward. Bank robbers are lucky to escape with a few thousand dollars from a teller’s drawer, but it’s not unusual for a messenger to carry tens of thousands of dollars or more in the coal bags. ..

Murdered guard Alvin Kinney

But Kinney’s brutal murder was a rarity: the first time since 2002 that a Houston armored car employee had died in the line of duty. And it was not just a killing. It was a cold-blooded execution. Kinney hadn’t even been given a chance to surrender.

They appear to have pulled off at least 4 armored car robberies in this shoot-first fashion, murdering 3 couriers and leaving one wounded.

Murdered guard David Guzman

In the later robberies, Batiste switched to a Beltway Sniper-mode where he’d shoot the armored car worker with a rifle from the back of a vehicle across the street.

He also had a clever technique for stealing cars that you can read about in the magazine.

And a follow-up article in Texas Monthly a year later:

What Drove Houston’s Armored Car Robber to Cold-Blooded Crime?

New insights about Redrick “Red” Batiste emerge after his accomplices are found guilty.

BY SKIP HOLLANDSWORTH
APR 5, 2019

I’m not sure I’ve ever come across a criminal as diabolical and ruthless as Houston’s Redrick “Red” Batiste, who robbed armored cars and murdered the couriers with a sniper rifle. When I first wrote about him in the May 2018 issue of the magazine, though, I couldn’t quite answer one of the central questions: What led him to turn from a strait-laced good neighbor and dad to a chillingly meticulous murderer and robber straight out of a Michael Mann movie? …

Murdered guard Melvin Moore

Although he had committed minor crimes as a young man, he hadn’t been charged with any violent crimes except for a couple of misdemeanor assault charges. Nor had he been arrested for any crime at all since 2009. People told me that during those years between 2009 and 2015, Batiste strove to make a legitimate name for himself. “But if you are young and black, dressing nice and driving a nice car, everything you do is policed, especially if you are living in the poor Acres Homes neighborhood,” said one of his Acres Homes buddies, who asked that his name not be published. “That was Red. The police were always pulling him over, thinking he was up to some shit. When he’d tell them that he was trying to improve the neighborhood, they’d just laugh and pat him down. He was always getting profiled, getting harassed, and the cops didn’t care.”

One longtime resident of Acres Homes, 81-year-old Tommy Albert, who had known Batiste since he was a boy, recalled an afternoon they were leaving a barbecue restaurant. “We were getting into Red’s $75,000 Jeep with four-wheel drive, everything loaded up, and the police pulled up, blocking Red’s way out, and he said, ‘Why are you cops fucking with me?’ Well, that got them mad and they made him get on the ground wearing his nice clothes. And they put their knees in his back and took him to jail on some false charges. He had to spend money on a lawyer to get the charges dropped. I remember Red told me, ‘These sons of bitches smile in your face and stab you in the back.’ I said, ‘Now, Red, not all the police are like that.’ But I could see this anger in his face.”

Albert also said that Batiste was growing more and more upset that banks wouldn’t loan him money for his real estate projects. “He wasn’t trying to build a skyscraper—just a little store. And the bankers would give Red a look—this young black male with no college degree—and they’d say no. Or they’d want to have a white man co-sign on the note. Red would say to me, ‘You can’t win in this society. You can’t win.’”

When I interviewed Okoh [his girlfriend], who met Batiste in 2013, she insisted that he was always well-mannered around her, perfectly polite. But she too noticed an anger in him. In 2014 and 2015, he became fixated on the police shootings taking place around the country of unarmed black males, like 12-year-old Tamir Rice of Cleveland, Ohio, and 18-year-old Michael Brown of Ferguson, Missouri. “He would say the time was coming where he wouldn’t be able to turn the other cheek,” said Okoh. “But he never talked about killing anyone.”

… I talked to sources close to the FBI investigation who told me that Batiste had indeed been consumed by his sense, whether real or imagined, of racial injustice. Before committing his armored car robberies, he had begun reading the works of black writers who railed against white supremacy. He had bought guns that he hid throughout his house. And eventually, he had begun talking to a few of his friends about his desire to ignite a “race war.”

FBI agents who later searched Batiste’s computer found letters he had written to prison convicts who had murdered white cops, telling them that he appreciated what they had done. They came across a Facebook posting in which Batiste had worn a black mask over his face and ranted about living like a gangster, to “keep things real.”

FBI agents also came across evidence (they have yet to reveal exactly what it is) that led them to believe that Batiste had murdered a white man who owned several McDonald’s restaurants and that he had murdered Joseph Stewart, the well-known owner of Houston’s Stewart Cadillac, where Okoh worked as a saleswoman. The Stewart murder was front-page news in Houston. Late one night in May 2015, Stewart was returning to his townhome near Houston’s Montrose area when gunshots rang out. He was found dead, lying just outside his garage. An unknown man wearing a hooded sweatshirt had been seen running from the scene. According to one source I spoke to, Batiste was apparently angry at Stewart for not treating Okoh as well as he treated his white employees. (When I asked Okoh about Stewart’s murder, however, she insisted that she had no problems at her job and that Batiste had nothing to do with Stewart’s shooting.)

The total number of homicides in the US went up over 24% from 2014 to 2016. One theory is that policemen were discouraged by all the animosity directed against them. But another would be that the Great Awokening encouraged black criminals, like this fairly intelligent guy, to be more homicidal.

 
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  1. When keeping it real goes wrong.

    • LOL: Aft
  2. Jack D says:

    Red Batiste is horrible and real but I don’t think there are a lot more like him. Mostly black people kill other black people. Even the armored car drivers that Red shot were mostly (all?) minority. He supposedly hated white people but killed brown ones.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @JMcG
    , @bomag
    , @Jesse
  3. Danindc says:

    Does the mass media that pushes this black victimization realize how much blood they have on their hands? Do they care?

  4. Reminds me a bit of the Beltway Sniper from 2002.

    Physically imposing, decent-looking, bright, but filled with racial rage.

  5. Mr. Blank says:

    Although he had committed minor crimes as a young man, he hadn’t been charged with any violent crimes except for a couple of misdemeanor assault charges. Nor had he been arrested for any crime at all since 2009.

    I love the sliding scale the Left uses. This thumbnail description of the guy’s history potentially covers a LOT of ground. These two sentences could describe anything from a regular guy who’s had some bad luck with the law to a hardened criminal. What do you wanna bet that this guy leans more towards the latter?

    Yet listen to how they talk about Brett Kavanaugh. Assuming at least some of the accusations against Kavanaugh are true (and I don’t believe they are), he’d be guilty of, at most, behaving like a jerk in public. Yet they repeatedly characterize him as a “sexual predator” — like he skulks around at night wearing a ski mask and attempts to rape random women.

  6. @Patrick in SC

    Beltway Sniper was muslim, no?

    • Replies: @Herbert West
  7. Mr. Blank says:
    @Mr. Blank

    In fact, I’ll go so far as to suggest the Kavanaugh Test: Any time a lefty is trying to stir your sympathy for some criminal, just swap out the guy’s name with “Brett Kavanaugh” and see if you can read it without laughing.

    “Although Brett Kavanaugh has been arrested four times for assault, the charges in each case were dropped for lack of evidence; moreover, none of the alleged crimes involved violence. Kavanaugh maintains his arrest for methamphetamine trafficking and illegal gun possession was a mistake — the drugs and firearms, he said, belonged to the car’s passenger.”

    • Agree: Couch scientist
    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
  8. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    He sounds like a textbook black psychopath, so there’s every reason to believe that there are a lot more like him. Richard Lynn has a new book showing blacks are the most psychopathic:

    http://www.unz.com/article/beyond-the-bell-curve-richard-lynns-race-differences-in-psychopathic-personality

    • Agree: Bubba
    • Replies: @animalogic
  9. MEH 0910 says:

  10. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    This guy is why there must be a death penalty. If you are not going to execute him you might as well not bother prosecuting him at all.

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
  11. Jack D says:
    @Danindc

    Gotta break some eggs to make an omelet. BLM was tied to the Obama election campaign. Which was more important – a few dead nobodies or the 2nd term of the Chosen One? No contest.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  12. Mr. Blank says:
    @Mr. Blank

    Now that I’m reading back over it, my comment is poorly phrased; of COURSE a guy who kills people and robs armored cars is a hardened criminal.

    What I meant, obviously, is that the writer describes his background in such a way as to suggest that his turn to crime was a sudden, jarring change that was totally out of character for the guy, when in fact it could just as easily have been a natural escalation from his previous behavior.

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
  13. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    One longtime resident of Acres Homes, 81-year-old Tommy Albert, who had known Batiste since he was a boy, recalled an afternoon they were leaving a barbecue restaurant. “We were getting into Red’s $75,000 Jeep with four-wheel drive, everything loaded up, and the police pulled up, blocking Red’s way out, and he said, ‘Why are you cops fucking with me?’ Well, that got them mad and they made him get on the ground wearing his nice clothes. And they put their knees in his back and took him to jail on some false charges. He had to spend money on a lawyer to get the charges dropped. I remember Red told me, ‘These sons of bitches smile in your face and stab you in the back.’ I said, ‘Now, Red, not all the police are like that.’ But I could see this anger in his face.”

    Something tells me Tommy Albert was either having a little fun at the reporter’s expense, or else saying something that went over the reporter’s head, or both.

    Or perhaps the reporter is the one trying to say something with a wink and a nod, by inserting details into a quote.

    Either way, surely the detail that Red’s Jeep cost $75,000 is not innocently offered. Where does a construction worker with Red’s criminal record get the money to buy that car and flip houses, live well generally, etc?

    (I’m assuming the incident outside the barbecue restaurants predates the robbery spree: it it at least offered up as a cause of it.)

    • Agree: PV van der Byl
    • Replies: @Anon
  14. Although he had committed minor crimes as a young man, he hadn’t been charged with any violent crimes except for a couple of misdemeanor assault charges. . . . But if you are young and black, dressing nice and driving a nice car, everything you do is policed, especially if you are living in the poor Acres Homes neighborhood,” said one of his Acres Homes buddies, who asked that his name not be published. “That was Red. The police were always pulling him over, thinking he was up to some shit.”

    And they were right, weren’t they? Past and future proved them right.

    • Replies: @Jesse
  15. THE GAP…….

    We are endlessly lectured about “the gap”, and how we must close “the gap”— in educational attainment, incomes, etc etc.

    We also know for a fact that Blacks commit roughly 50% of homicides, year in, year out. The term “13-90” we’ve all seen is just silly, but “13-50” is pretty darn accurate.

    My question…….what were Black murder rates say, 50 years ago? Were Blacks responsible for 50% of murders in 1969? In 1959?

    My suspicion is they were not. I’m sure they were higher than the proportional 13%, but I seriously doubt they were as high as they are now. To immerse yourself in White homicide these days you almost have to stay up late and watch hard-boiled Noir on Turner Classic. It’s fallen that much out of fashion. …….In other words……I suspect this gap has grown LARGER over the past half century or so.

    Not that you’ll ever hear anyone speak of that, of course…..

    • Replies: @Logan
    , @Charlesz Martel
    , @Alden
  16. @Danindc

    Does the mass media that pushes this black victimization realize how much blood they have on their hands? Do they care?

    They most certainly do care: they care that it continues, or (preferably) intensifies. The wreckage is a feature, not a bug, to our Ruling Class which prefers that all the other ‘tribes’ be continually at one another’s throats.

    (Steve:)
    The total number of homicides in the US went up over 24% from 2014 to 2016. One theory is that policemen were discouraged by all the animosity directed against them. But another would be that the Great Awokening encouraged black criminals, like this fairly intelligent guy, to be more homicidal.

    Or, a little from Column A…

  17. @Mr. Blank

    “Sliding scale” is putting it far too nicely. “Goebbels-level propaganda” is more like it. What’s the latest accusation? (I’ve tired of this so much I barely read headlines)……..he pulled his dick out at a party……when he was 19 or 20?

    You guys are kidding, right? A 19 year old guy who got hammered and acted like an asshole? Boy that’s rare! 19 year olds SPECIALIZE in getting hammered and acting like assholes. Good grief.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @Wernermagnus
  18. When I interviewed Okoh [his girlfriend]

    Christ you know it ain’t easy
    You know how hard it can be
    The way things are goin’
    They’re gonna crucify me

    Houston’s Stewart Cadillac

    Houston’s Stewart Cadillac. Houston Stewart Chamberlain.

    Coïncidence?

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  19. @Patrick in SC

    He also reminds me of Mark Essex, the New Orleans mass murderer of cops and civilians alike.

    As for his friends’ claim of his sufferings at the hands of racist, white (?) cops? If you believe them, I’ve got a great deal for you on a slightly used bridge.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @David In TN
  20. Calm down! White people killed more armored car guards in the same time period. Or something, anyway this isn’t that bad. It would have made the NYT if it was bad.

    • LOL: Ragno
  21. @sanjoaquinsam

    Nation of Islam. Big difference. It’s basically a religion of nothing but racial grievance.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  22. johnd says: • Website

    pro-ly learned from the masters…

  23. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Snipers are an interesting case with respect to 2A. I’m in favor of gun rights, but when it comes to snipers it’s hard to see how the average armed guy helps the situation. That black guy with the automatic rifle slung over his shoulder when the Houston BLM sniper started shooting is lucky he wasn’t killed by a nervous cop. He immediately handed his weapon over to a cop.

    Similarly, let’s say there were a bunch of men carrying at that concert in Vegas that got shot up. They only had a vague idea of where the shots were coming from, and would have more likely shot innocents in the hotel than the sniper.

  24. @Reg Cæsar

    Ha, ha! That’s actually the first thing that popped into my head. Am I a Nazi now?

  25. eah says:

    this fairly intelligent guy

    So “intelligent” he couldn’t be bothered to examine the details/circumstances of eg the Michael Brown and Tamir Rice killings for mitigating factors — again showing his ‘intelligence’, he decided to act by killing a black guy and a brown guy while committing armed robbery.

    If this is an example of a “fairly intelligent” black man, no wonder America has a “Negro problem”.

    Or they’d want to have a white man co-sign on the note.

    Sure — I can just hear those bankers saying “Now go find yourself a white man to co-sign, BOY.”

  26. anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick in SC

    His racial rage caused him to shoot a black kid?

  27. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:

    Three kids by three moms. The first mom had a previous kid by another father.

    The journalist is framing the story as a nice, well groomed, thoughtful , thrifty guy who went bad. How weird! This after casually listing up his multiple stints in prison lasting six or eight years, and his lengthy rap sheet, none of which sounds like stuff white guys could get away with.

    The black community’s standards for “nice guys” really differ from those of the white community. Not to mention the slack cut by the Texas Monthly. I guess “for a black guy” he was a saint. I mean, what can you expect given the brutal legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, and 21st century noose proliferation.

  28. Narrator quietly speaks: Or, another theory that is going around says that the cops stopped doing suspicion stops on Black males with records in 2014, so he could bring his murder kit on the road easily and upgraded to armored car jobs

  29. FPD72 says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    “That black guy with the automatic rifle slung over his shoulder when the Houston BLM sniper started shooting is lucky he wasn’t killed by a nervous cop.”

    I think you mean the Dallas BLM sniper.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  30. unit472 says:

    Agree about the ‘sliding scale’ used to minimize this ex con’s record. EIGHT misdemeanor arrests by 21 is a minor record? Then two terms in state prison consuming most of his twenties. He was a career criminal and the police, if not the Texas Monthly writers, knew it so of course a marginally employed ex-con driving a flashy car gets attention.

    Reading between the lines of these two articles what is apparent is this is the last hurrah for the negro criminal. AI, surveillance systems and big data are going to penetrate the scams, schemes and pseudonyms the negro underclass uses to conceal their activity. Future Redricks will have a hard time finding large amounts of cash to steal and that is another point. Their big ‘haul’ was $120,000 split between 6 people. Come on. Even with two robberies per year this gang of ex -cons wasn’t making big money. Just eking out a lower middle class existence in a shabby Houston neighborhood.

    • Replies: @Aft
  31. Anonymous[130] • Disclaimer says:

    The mention his eye color but not his skin color?

    • Replies: @Nachum
  32. Pericles says:
    @Mr. Blank

    I love the sliding scale the Left uses. This thumbnail description of the guy’s history potentially covers a LOT of ground. These two sentences could describe anything from a regular guy who’s had some bad luck with the law to a hardened criminal. What do you wanna bet that this guy leans more towards the latter?

    Lol, yeah, a wonderful example of an artful paragraph. Mainstream media at its best. At a guess the scenario is similar to the uncaring police shooting the typical poor innocent black, who then turns out to have a foot-long rap sheet of mixed crime. (“When asked, MSM declined to follow up.”)

  33. Dark says:

    The loan officers told him he had to have A White co-sign his loan? I’ll take things that never happened for $1,000, Alex.

    • Agree: TWS
  34. He looks kind of like a black H.P. Lovecraft.

    Maybe Cthulhu was calling a little too loudly…?

  35. Jake says:

    White Liberalism always encourages Numinous Negroes to be more violent, just like white Liberalism (including the part that is the ‘conservative’ half of post-Christian secularism and the part that is still devoutly religious with a base in Judaizing heresy) always encourages Jews to run rampant.

  36. eded says:

    “he asked visitors to take off their shoes before coming inside so they wouldn’t track dirt across the carpet. …”

    So was he Canadian?

  37. Jake says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    Ding, ding, ding: we have a winner!

  38. Jake says:
    @Danindc

    Yes, the leaders in ‘mass media’ do know, and they do care: they support it.

  39. Elli says:

    A man who always wanted the finer things in life without having to work for them.

    A variety of criminal hustles.

    One job described in 2009, at a roofing and landscaping business whose owner said Batiste “spent hours on the computer.”

    Just possibly Batiste was giving off a vibe of much more than nice clothes, nice car, driving while black.

  40. JR Ewing says:

    He decided he needed to Hate Whitey so he…. started robbing ATM’s and shooting the black guards loading the cash (look at the pictures in the article)?

    My personal gut feeling after reading both of these stories is that the Hate Whitey stuff is being used to wave away his criminal acts and shift the blame. HE WAS A KIND FAMILY MAN AND WHITEY DROVE HIM TO MURDER AND ROB RACIST BANKS!/sarc

    What he was, was an intelligent and organized psychopathic black man somewhere on center-right side of the (black) bell curve who used his intelligence to recruit a bunch of run of the mill thugs from the left hand side to help execute his criminal schemes. There was nothing “racist” in his motivations, he was just a black man with black man tendencies and lucky enough to have the intelligence to execute them successfully. Unfortunately, he was just unlucky enough that one of his left-of-center soldiers was capable of using the phone to rat him out.

    Hell, most people probably drive past an armored car and daydream about getting all that cash… but most people aren’t psychopathic enough to try it. You don’t have to be burned my the man to have those thoughts. You just have to be a normal person with normal morals, unlike Red Batiste.

    Not buying this epilogue at all.

  41. TTSSYF says:
    @Fred C Dobbs

    Exactly. I don’t believe any of it about Kavanaugh, but I could not care less, even if true.

  42. @Dave Pinsen

    Similarly, let’s say there were a bunch of men carrying at that concert in Vegas that got shot up. They only had a vague idea of where the shots were coming from, and would have more likely shot innocents in the hotel than the sniper.

    I don’t know about that. I’m pretty sure carry types know the limits of a handgun’s range. Shooting an uncertain hotel window 100+ yards away? Under stress? The sight picture is going to be jumping all over.

    Maybe I’m overly optimistic – but even the most hardcore Bubbas are going to pass on taking that shot with a handgun.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  43. “What led him to turn from a strait-laced good neighbor and dad to a chillingly meticulous murderer and robber straight out of a Michael Mann movie? …

    Although he had committed minor crimes as a young man, he hadn’t been charged with any violent crimes except for a couple of misdemeanor assault charges. Nor had he been arrested for any crime at all since 2009.”

    Exactly! I mean, doesn’t everybody rack up a few minor crimes and misdemeanor assault charges throughout their life? That certainly doesn’t mean anything, racist! I mean, come on! He hadn’t been arrested since 2009 for Pete’s sake!

  44. RickinJax says:
    @Patrick in SC

    You seem to suggest the Beltway sniper was bright. Wasn’t one of his demands a Visa card with a 10 million dollar line of credit?

    • Replies: @Alden
  45. Whiskey says: • Website

    Girlfriend obviously put him up to her bosses murder. She probably got off on her boyfriend killing dudes.

    There will be a lot more of this hence the need to disarm White men. Consider the Kansas City killer of those White men walking their dogs. Can’t have him shot now can you?

  46. Anon[336] • Disclaimer says:

    The article speculates that Batiste was ticked off that banks wouldn’t give him loans to buy land in crummy neighborhoods and build small businesses on it.

    This shows that it’s not just BLM. Even all the gripping about redlining and home loans is driving blacks to violence.

    Think of it: an ex-con who spent half of his adult life in jail and has never operated a business comes to your bank and asks for a loan to set up a little trashy ghetto grocery store, manned by homies. Of course you say Nope. You suggest he might get a cosigner. He hears that as, I need a white partner. Well not exactly, but yep, most solvent potential cosigners are going to be white. And you know what? If he went to a black-owned bank, he’d get the same answer.

  47. Physically imposing, decent-looking, bright, but filled with racial rage.

    It might shock some white people how much racial rage otherwise pleasant, well-mannered blacks carry inside of them. The black concierge at a hotel we stayed at in New Orleans was cordial and intelligent, but in a brief conversation about Hurricane Katrina he told us that whites had dynamited the levees in an attempt to wipe out the black residents of the Ninth Ward. According to him, this was (IIRC) the third time whites had done this–in fact, his grandmother recalled that as a young girl she witnessed whites placing explosive charges.

    He told us this as if it were a well-known fact. How much hate must someone harbor for whites if he takes it for granted that they are out to exterminate his race?

  48. @Danindc

    I suspect that they do “care”, but in the abstract. And that’s one of the problems. This “woke” thing is driven primarily by WHITES. Specifically white liberal academics and their allies in the media who have no real contact with the rest of society, white or black. They think only in terms of numbers and graphs and “ideas”, not in terms of flesh and blood people. Hence the popularity of the “woke” phenomenon–the latest intellectual fad among the cognescenti who wield the megaphone.

  49. JMcG says:
    @Jack D

    I’d say the odds are high that he did, in fact, kill white people.

  50. Logan says:

    The article takes great pains to demonstrate that society in general, and white people in particular, are more or less responsible for his crimes, due to their mistreatment of him.

    But when a white man commits a hate crime you never, ever see any discussion of whether there might actually be some reason he hated black folks.

  51. Logan says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    In Vegas it took quite some time to figure out where the shots were coming from. If they had known, they were coming from well over a quarter mile away and quite elevated. The chance of anybody carrying a concealed weapon being able to effectively return fire was zero.

  52. The banks suck for everyone. I recently talked with a very successful lawyer that said 35 years ago when he started, he walked into a bank and obtained $650,000 to start his own firm.

    Today, even with a track record of success, he can barely get a business credit card.

    As to Red, add it to Obama’s total.

  53. @Dave Pinsen

    ” I’m in favor of gun rights, but when it comes to snipers it’s hard to see how the average armed guy helps the situation.”

    In 1966 Texan average Joes did PLENTY:

    Mary Kkillourhy (YT comment):

    “What I remember most about this day was private citizens showing up with high powered rifles, trying to take this guy out. This was so unusual at the time that the police didn’t have the kind of weapons needed to stop this lunatic.”

    I recall an article in American Rifleman about one person armed with a Department of Civilian Marksmanship M-1 carbine almost get a shot off at the Texas tower sniper.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  54. He probably got the idea from an old episode of Highway Patrol. A rober shot a guard because he would become a witness. Thanks to the work of Inspector Dan Matthews and the highway patrol, his murder spree stopped at one. Cue dramatic music.

  55. 95Theses says:

    Obviously something terrible happened, but one thing we know for sure is that it had absolutely nothing to do with Black racism. Period.

  56. @Dave Pinsen

    I’m in favor of gun rights, but when it comes to snipers it’s hard to see how the average armed guy helps the situation

    Quite so. There are a large number of cases in which being armed does no good at all – snipers, bombs, trucks driving through crowds, etc. What firearms do is raise the stakes on robberies, and thus partially nullify the advantage of numbers.
    A single person armed with a knife is helpless against three people with clubs. He can’t so much as scratch them. A single armed person against three robbers, all armed with firearms, is quite capable of drawing first and severely injuring or even killing one or more of the robbers. It greatly reduces the payoff to the robbers in the abstract robbery game.
    If the abstract game is kill and loot (the game played by the armored car robber), well, that’s a different game. In this abstract game being armed does the victim no good. It has a much higher, although time dependent, variance. The police get involved, spend significant resources, and the initial large positive payoffs become a highly negative payoff. It’s this game that resulted in defensive clans and eventually in police forces.

    Counterinsurgency

  57. @Nicholas Stix

    Exactly. They ALWAYS use this excuse.

  58. bomag says:
    @Jack D

    He supposedly hated white people but killed brown ones.

    Yeah, I suppose he harbored a generalized, inchoate anger at the world around him; the racial stuff, to him, was just more evidence that the the world in general was out to get him.

  59. J.Ross says:

    Talking about Jews the way our entire mass media and academy talks about whites is forbidden, and the entire reason it’s forbidden is the fear that, if you talk like that long and loud enough, somebody’s going to pick up a gun.
    If only we had some legal system or societal rubric which valued applying the same rules equally to everybody.

  60. peterike says:

    Although he had committed minor crimes as a young man,

    Which is why the punishment for most minor crimes should be immediate execution, no appeals, one night in jail and hanged the next morning. Result? A massive decrease in minor crime — you know, take back the streets and all that — and the few people still bold, crazy or vicious enough to commit a minor crime in the face of death we don’t want around anyway. Win win.

    Criminology has it all wrong. The harshest punishments should be for the lesser crimes. And the best way to ultimately save innocent lives is to end some guilty ones.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  61. Alfa158 says:

    This guy reminds me of one of the death penalty cases that got Jerry Brown appointee Rose Bird and her minions recalled from the California Supreme Court decades ago, before the state was lost. There was outrage over the Court reversing two death penalty convictions on the pretense of the jury instructions being faulty.
    One case was an armored car robber who was sentenced to death for repeatedly shooting the guard. The accused argued that he never intended to kill the guard, he was simply after the money, and kept shooting only until the guard dropped the money bags, therefore it was not premeditated first degree murder. Bird ruled that the jury instructions failed to explicitly direct the jury to consider that he might be telling the truth about his state of mind.
    The other case was a fast food robbery where the robbers herded four teenage workers into the refrigerator, made them lie on the floor and shot them in the head. One of the robbers claimed that he shot them out of fear for his own life. His fellow robbers were very scary people and he was worried that they would kill him if he didn’t shoot the kids. Therefore he was acting in self defense.
    Again Bird overturned the conviction because the jury instructions failed to explicitly direct the jury to consider that the shooting might have been self defense.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Alden
  62. Steve

    LATE NIGHT WITH LILLY SINGH….

  63. J.Ross says:
    @Alfa158

    How did this outrage manifest, was it just letters and maybe one outdoor gathering?

    • Replies: @Alden
  64. He might of got the idea from the Affleck movie The Town about a armored car crew from Charlestown.Loosely based on a real events.

  65. Jesse says:
    @ben tillman

    Right. I don’t especially like cops, but I don’t decide to kill randomers because the police annoyed/angered me. Every time you lash out at perceived injustice and profiling, you prove them right.

    What I’m more curious about is the “false charges”, which he had to spend money on. What exactly were they? What was he doing? Where was the money for the nice car coming from?

    And why in the hell would he expect to waltz into a bank and be given money to build something, especially with recent arrests and no degree? What exactly does this prove? What was his business plan like? (And remember the outrage when banks would lend money to people like this.)

  66. @Harry Baldwin

    I don’t know who started the blood libel claiming white authorities dynamited the levees in the Ninth Ward, but it was popularized by Louis Farrakahan. However, since the white public would have immediately realized what was up, had the Lügenpresse cited Farrakhan as their “authority,” the hoax work was carried, first by syndicated black columnist Gregory Kane, and then by Spike Lee, in his six-hour-long, fake documentary on Katrina for HBO, When the Levees Broke, but of course, without ever mentioning Farrakhan.

    Lee also asserted that blacks committed no violence, following Katrina. The violence was all white-on-black.

    Even then, no sensible, honest person would take anything Lee said seriously. HBO has to be run by racial socialists.

    Lee is, at the very least, an NOI propagandist and honorary member. I suspect that he is a member of the racist murder cult, but when I reached out to his people to ask, they just sandbagged me and wasted my time.

    http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2011/08/seven-at-new-orleans-times-picayune-win.html

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  67. Art Deco says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    A hypothesis: not a whole lot. He’s a paranoid nitwit. It may be intellectual deficits or it may be the culture. Some cultures are more susceptible to that sort of thing than others. He fancies blacks take up a great deal more rent-free space in the heads of whites than in fact they do and he fancies white wish to injure blacks as a way of amusing themselves. Since there are 300 million people in this country, you likely can find someone obsessed with race who wants to flood the homes of blacks and watch them drown. An ordinary person would say that there are odd (and sometimes dangerous) freaks in this world, but for people like this guy, the presence of such freaks provides emotional validation.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  68. Art Deco says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    Lee’s a malicious jerk. Unfortunately, he’s a malicious jerk who knows how to make salable and satisfactorily executed motion pictures.

  69. Jesse says:
    @Jack D

    Eh, maybe. Thing is, most people realize how monumentally stupid going after cops is. They know the police can call for backup, up to and including the military, and are expected to do so in order to retain the upper hand.

    (This is something to remember when people whine about police “militarization”; in a lot of cases, that knowledge is the only thing stopping people from killing police.)

    So they go after pseudo cops, or cop adjacent people, both out of fear of real poe-leese, and out of a feeling that they’re an easier target but fundamentally serving the same system.

    The fact that he went after non whites might’ve been the point – you’d be astonished at the number of people who genuinely think that black officers, security etc, should regard black thugs as “brothers”, and see them as traitors when they don’t. (Yes, this makes trying to discuss police shootings with SJWs…interesting.)

  70. @Fred C Dobbs

    I’m beginning to think “Geobbels level propaganda” is just a Jewish meme, a product of Jewish projection.

  71. @Mr. Blank

    Every time I am with my liberal friends and and the topic of misbehaving vibrants comes up I refer to them as McCain or Romney supporters. They don’t know weather to take it as a slur or the left handed compliment that it is.

  72. Spangel says:

    I read some detailed articles about red batiste and I have to concur, he is likely intelligent or at least so detail oriented that he makes himself very effective.

    He wouldn’t have gotten caught without the informant to the cops. So the whole thing has me wondering why this man, the child of middle class married parents, preferred a life of crime to simply going to college or learning a lucrative skill or starting a business. In the end, his net assets appeared to be worth around 200k. He was nearly 40 when he died. I can’t understand how he thought he couldn’t have made that legally.

    What is it about so many black men that compels them towards coordinated group violence? The get easily enamored with gang violence and schemes involving their pals. It’s as if their is some driving obsession in them that draws them to it.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Rob
  73. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Counterinsurgency

    The Israelis had good success against truck jihad by having armed civilians perforate the drivers.

    Europe is filled with unarmed surrender monkees.

    • Replies: @Jesse
  74. George says:

    What does this have to do with ‘wokeness’ ?

    “He read self-improvement books like Do You!: 12 Laws to Access the Power in You to Achieve Happiness and Success, by the hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons.”

    He was radicalized by Russell Simmons. I get it now, awokening refers to Tony Robbins “Awakening the Giant Within”.

  75. @Dave Pinsen

    Of course your average CCW is going to have issues with a sniper or sniper situation. CCW is designed to turn Heart of Darkness or Aloha Snackbar into a Boogalooaboard situation. They allow a fighting chance.

    2A is about being the Cromwell option. It’s the final veto of the people.

    Now, the El Paso and Daytona shooters have brought some self reflection on the defensive carry crowd, and currently the problem of pocket pistol v rifle is being chewed on by Top Men.

  76. Jesse says:
    @Whiskey

    The Israelis had a good success against the Intifada by building a wall and using their army effectively.

    I’m agnostic on the 2A, but the idea that it’s possible to shoot our way out of the current shit storm is some Antifa level stupidity.

  77. Sean says:
    @Spangel

    This may seem terribly corny but what about rap? In a ongoing trial Tekashi 6ix9ine testified how his manager, a gangsta called Shotie, er, shot or threatened to shoot everyone not in his gang including Tekashi 6ix9ine.

    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-controversial-use-of-rap-lyrics-as-evidence
    The case of YNW Melly … . His lawyer has said that Melly’s harrowing single “Murder on My Mind” will likely be entered as evidence for his alleged role in the shooting deaths of two of his associates, in October, 2018. (Melly has pleaded not guilty to both murder charges. He faces the death penalty.) … the song was released a year and a half before the killings.

    Nah, couldn’t be that.

    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/ed49/de45a99b20a0147c1b36e032f1afe61b2e8f.pd
    During the commission of a crime, the individual uses a “cutoff” (p. 413) mechanism to instantaneously eliminate fear as well as boost self-confidence and composure, which allows the continuation of the criminal activity. Even after the commission of a crime, celebratory cognitions such as a “power thrust” (i.e.,increased perception of value or importance of oneself; p p. 276) occur and are reinforcing of the criminal behavior

    Wasn’t about the money

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/FBI-agent-Suspect-in-foiled-robbery-tied-to-2015-10794674.php
    A few weeks before he was killed, Stewart filed a police report of an attempted robbery at his home. He had just pulled into his garage when a white Jeep Grand Cherokee pulled in behind him. HPD said three men wearing hoodies – including two who were armed with pistols – approached and tried to force Stewart into his house. When they began arguing, Stewart was able to push past them and run down the street. The attackers fled the scene.

    Batiste came back weeks later and instantly shot him dead on the same spot. It was revenge for making Red feel less of a big man. After that he got addicted to the rush of murder, which is quite addictive if you have a criminal personalty.

  78. KunioKun says:

    These Black criminals live better than I do. The writer’s minimizing of Red’s substantial criminal past is likely an effort to play up the out-of-character-to-be-a-stone-cold-killer element of the story.

    His criminal record ended for seven years, but all it means is he didn’t get caught for seven years.

    Working with a psycho is dangerous because one day he could decide to kill everybody else off and keep all the loot. Perhaps this kind of thinking is a bigger limiting factor on smart people getting into violent crime?

    Nobody at these banks noticed people sitting in cars in the parking lot for hours at a time?

  79. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @mikeInThe716

    Even with a rifle, the odds of identifying the correct window out of hundreds would have been slim.

  80. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Joe Stalin

    That was an exception, you’re right.

  81. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Counterinsurgency

    Your mention of defensive clans reminds me of something that bothers me about recent post-apocalyptic Hollywood stuff, like The Walking Dead, or The Last Ship (what little of it I saw): the diversity. Post-apocalypse, that’s going out the window.

  82. @peterike

    Yes of course, remove all probability of false negatives. Innocents be damned. Break eggs without recipe or skillet.

  83. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    That parking lot anecdote seemed fishy to me, too pat, like Jussie or the Rolling Stone rape. There should be a police report and Batiste used a lawyer: The reporter should have tracked those down and reconstructed what really happened. Using the word “fucking” on the first sentence you say to a cop it’s not a good idea, however. I think we can infer refusal to show ID, maybe a shove to a cop, resisting being handcuffed, and so on. Basic Chris Rock level common sense being ignored.

    • Replies: @anon
  84. @Danindc

    No, they probably don’t realise. Ever since the racial troubles of the 1960s educated whites have been told that all races are the same and the best way to improve race relations with blacks is for privileged whites to be conciliatory to underdog blacks.

    • Replies: @Danindc
  85. @Counterinsurgency

    Are we dealing with individuals capable of abstraction?

  86. Olorin says:

    Skimming those two excerpts and feeling my patience waning in the first paragraph of each, I realized that they point to a major reason “journalism” went off the rails:

    The scribblers started writing in this self-important stentorian dramatic narrative style that presents a handful of simple forensic facts in thousands of words of fiction-sounding reader-wooing pap…before delivering conclusions, if any, and then meager. (The above stories were voiced in my brain by Robert Stack.)

    No wonder audiences are so dumbed down that they can no longer sustain attention for complex issues or analyses.

    The piece elsewhere on Richard Stallman was even worse. This writing style is the equivalent of boxed cold breakfast products. A few cents’ worth of GMO corn and sweetener, a spritz of synthetic vitamins–presto, it’s “food.”

    I read our host’s as-usual-non-self-promoting precis, concluded the header summarized the point, and then felt even more impatient realizing that this simple conclusion is one these pieces and their genre are designed to evade. That’s nothing new. But it sure does drive me back to reading primary sources from online archives and such. (And ever more gratitude to our host for his willingness to plow through such stuff.)

    “Magazine” style writing is a plague. Is anyone developing new outlets that report just the facts without the stylistic flab and nudge nudge to the audience? Something like current events and politics distilled but not ornamented. The Overton Express.

    • Replies: @Logan
  87. Cops kill more white people than they kill black people. But still you love them.

  88. Danindc says:
    @alt right moderate

    I lean toward them knowing and them being happy it’s happening

  89. We were getting into Red’s $75,000 Jeep with four-wheel drive, everything loaded up, and the police pulled up, blocking Red’s way out, and he said, ‘Why are you cops fucking with me?’

    Maybe the cops were fucking with him, but it would’ve cost this murderous dickhead nothing to be polite and respectful. I wonder if he was this hostile when trying to secure bank loans?

  90. Nachum says:
    @Anonymous

    “Dark eyes” is always a giveaway. It’s kind of laughable, as even most white people, and all non-white people, have “dark eyes,” and because most dark eyes are pretty much the same. But if you ever see it, you know it means “black”. (Because no black people have non-dark eyes? I dunno.)

  91. @Anonymous

    “Psychopath” ? I don’t know ? Much of what he did was for money — which if nothing else is a rational goal. For much of the world it’s the ONLY goal.

  92. Hibernian says:
    @Mr. Blank

    “Defenses” of Kavanaugh, which assume he was guilty but minimize the offenses, mainly because of his age, do him no favor. They warm the hearts of the Left. The accusations were manufactured, except for the heinous crime of throwing ice in a bar, which he admitted.

    • Replies: @Jesse
  93. FPD72 says:

    Doing the math, it appears that he was born in 1980. In Texas, the criminal records of juvenile delinquents are sealed, so any crimes he committed before 1997 would have been unknown by Hollingsworth. With this as background, we read this:

    “he had committed minor crimes as a young man, he hadn’t been charged with any violent crimes except for a couple of misdemeanor assault charges. Nor had he been arrested for any crime at all since 2009.”

    So in the thirteen years before 2010, our poor victim of the banking community and police committed multiple crimes and had been charged with two criminal assaults. Question: what bank would lend money to anyone with that criminal record during the period between 2010 and 2015, when the armored car robberies and shootings began?

    Second question: what responsible journalist would describe a person with that type of criminal background, in addition to fathering a child out of wedlock, as “straight laced?”

    Skip Hollingsworth has tried mightily to write a story that fits the prevailing narrative, but what he has accomplished is journalistic malpractice.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  94. Doright says:

    I live in the predominately black Atlanta predominately black Georgia area. I am White and as I go about my routine daily life of shopping, work, blousing, driving etc, I am constantly harassed by blacks mostly subtlety challenged and sometimes not so subtle on a daily bases. Blacks have a chip on their shoulders just daring any White to knock it off.

  95. Aft says:
    @unit472

    two terms in state prison consuming most of his twenties. He was a career criminal and the police, if not the Texas Monthly writers, knew it so of course a marginally employed ex-con driving a flashy car gets attention.

    Of course the article failed to mention how he paid for that “everything loaded up” ride of his…

  96. Logan says:
    @Fred C Dobbs

    I suspect you’re right. Also that the cause is a drastic decline in the white murder rate more than an increase in the black one.

  97. Logan says:

    4-wheel drive has such great utility in Houston.

  98. Logan says:
    @Olorin

    No wonder audiences are so dumbed down that they can no longer sustain attention for complex issues or analyses.

    Yet at the same time many millions of 1-3 hour long podcasts on complex issues are downloaded each week. Presumably somebody is listening to them. I know I do.

  99. prosa123 says:

    That car theft (actually more like free rentals) idea is actually quite clever. I’ll bet he heard about it from someone else. Almost certainly the rental companies have scrambled to upgrade their anti-theft security.

  100. prosa123 says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Another big advantage that Paddock had in the Las Vegas shooting is that he would have presented a very small target to anyone on the ground.

  101. @Fred C Dobbs

    I remember in 1975-1976 reading that blacks, who were 11% of the U.S population at the time, comitted 55% of the murders. I had read this in the paper and the FBI was given as the source.

    I mentioned this to Larry King on his local radio show ( before he went nationwide he was on WIOD Miami) and his brain melted. He said “I don’t believe it.” Realizing that he was about to hang up, I said, (paraphrasing) ” Well, once you adjust for poverty and schooling the numbers don’t look as bad” and that kept me on the line to finish my point.

    You can discuss crime-rate racial disparities all day long with liberals as long as you can find a way to blame the White man somehow.

    Anyway, my point is that the racial murder ratio has been pretty constant for at least 45 years, and in fact, shows similar ratios with Black populations in other countries with no “legacy of slavery or discrimination”.

    As murder is overwhelmingly a male affair, the actual ratio is something like 6.5% (males) committing 55% of the murders. If you break it down by age. Say 15 – 40 year olds, (who commit the overwhelming majority of violent crimes) the ratio gets insane.

    If a man hasn’t been in trouble with the law for a serious crime by the time he’s 40, the odds are he never will be.

    • Replies: @Fred C Dobbs
  102. Jesse says:
    @Hibernian

    The most useful piece of advice I was ever given has turned out to be: “be strategic about shitting on people’s gag reflexes.”

    It’s like Warren’s college debt forgiveness plan. The Dems have no intention of forgiving student loans (too many whites would benefit) and the plan itself is a mess. But it served its purpose in having conservatives and Republicans gleefully telling their base (the white middle class) that both they and their families could go fuck themselves. Its purpose was social, not political.

    By the same token, being the people cackling about grown men going after teenage girls, or them treating female fellow students like dirt is, if nothing else, terrible politics. (This is different from saying that there’s no real evidence against Kavanaugh.) At some point you have to go with the cultural norms of the people who you claim to represent. Like it or not, they are repulsed by Epstein and, if true, Kavanaugh.

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    , @J.Ross
  103. Irene says:

    He spent five years in prison for an illegal firearm sale. Too much. That’s what sent him over the edge. Prison for marijuana and fighting, also unnecessary.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  104. Muggles says:

    Interesting to compare/contrast the very left liberal Texas Monthly bio of this cold blooded criminal and murderer with say, how they or the MSM describes some loser white mass shooter.

    The shooters are nearly always losers but rarely convicted criminals. Minor crimes, a minor felony at most, but seldom any lengthy record of prison sentences or a long lifetime of criminal lifestyle (i.e. no actual productive employment) which characterizes most black murderers.

    Because Batiste is black, his long (but not extremely dangerous) criminal history is glossed over. As in just another “victim” of the white man’s justice system. Except that his victims were probably, in the minor assaults/thefts, all blacks. This is an example of typical white journalist racism of “low expectations.” You can bet that almost none of the staff at Texas Monthly are minorities, or especially blacks, and that only a tiny percentage of subscribers are as well.

    Their glossy ad pages are stuffed full of pitches for expensive resorts, spas, cars, jewelry, etc. In other words, liberal elites. They readily buy into the “racism” excuse of minority psychopaths. Good to have at those excuses at the numerous sentencing hearings when they are convicted.

  105. Rob says:
    @Spangel

    “What is it about so many black men that compels them towards coordinated group violence? The get easily enamored with gang violence and schemes involving their pals. It’s as if their is some driving obsession in them that draws them to it.”

    That thing is evolution. Groups of young men banding together for reproductively-oriented violence was a big driver in human evolution. The fact that white and Asians do this to a much smaller degree is a testament to the evolutionary effects of state and pre-state “legal” executions.

  106. @prosa123

    I am still waiting for an explanation of what happened in Las Vegas, but I am not holding my breath.

  107. @prosa123

    Have investigators achieved any breakthoughs in that mass shooting?

    • Replies: @prosa123
  108. @Patrick in SC

    The Beltway Sniper, John Muhammad, was an evil, violent thug with a satanic plan to murder his ex-wife: kill a bunch of innocent others first, and then, when he offed her, she’d seem just another in a string of serial murders.
    Bright?
    No, but brighter than the moronic Washington, D.C. Police Chief Charles Moose, the man who kept the public focus white guys in delivery vans rather than black guys in a 1990 Chevy Caprice.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    , @Jim Don Bob
  109. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I was more thinking that some0ne was trying to hint that Batiste hadn’t gone straight in the years between credit card fraud and bank robbery.

  110. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Anonymous

    We’ll have to round up a few honkies to zap to, 5 would be ideal but 4 should be enough to dampen the disparate impact.

    I nominate a Sackler or two.

  111. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Mr. Blank

    I got a kick out of the $75k Jeep. Either somebody’s really dumb, or there’s a little more going on than aspiring developer.

  112. @Charlesz Martel

    You may be right……the numbers I’ve seen only go back 30 or so years…..but then I’m not a armchair criminologist like Polymath Steve….=)

    As for getting in trouble……..I’d say if a guy has not become a “justice-involved individual” (I think that’s the current Denialist lingo here on the Left Coast) by the time he’s even so much as 25 I think the odds are way in his favor.

    The problem (again, that everyone knows and very few admit) is that most get started as “youfs” of 15 or so.

  113. prosa123 says:
    @Neil Templeton

    Last I heard, a specialized laboratory at Stanford conducted a lengthy examination of Paddock’s brain to see if there was any physical evidence of a disorder or condition that might have caused his rampage. Nothing.

  114. @Paul Jolliffe

    Muhammad might well have grown up watching the original 5-0 — Monte Markham and Lloyd Bochner were among the slimy guest stars who tried to off their wives amid a string of demented serial killings.

    5-0 was a refreshingly blacks-free zone, but they did have a gang of white guys hijack an armored car — then baffle McGarrett by rolling it into a truck, driving it to the docks and shipping it via Seatrain container to Oakland, with a phony bill of lading.

  115. @Irene

    He spent five years in prison for an illegal firearm sale.

    That’s what he plead guilty to or was all that the prosecutors could hang on him. Dollars to doughnuts says what he did was much more serious.

  116. @Paul Jolliffe

    Just to nitpick a bit, you are right that Moose was a loud mouthed moron who had everyone terrified of white vans, but he was not the DC chief of police, but rather of Montgomery County Maryland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Moose

    The cops were tipped off that the shooters were at a Maryland rest stop by a refrigerator repairman.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-2003-12-13-0312130235-story.html

    I lived through this, and remember standing behind gas pumps as I filled my car. The Home Depot where the woman was killed is my goto HD.

    Virginia had the cojones to execute the older asshole; the younger one still breathes valuable air in Maryland.

  117. Alden says:
    @RickinJax

    Beltway sniper was intelligent enough to join and have a successful military career. Must have a 86 IQ.

  118. @FPD72

    In Texas, the criminal records of juvenile delinquents are sealed…

    What is the rationale for this? If I were an employer, I’d want to know if the kid had been convicted 12 times before age 17.

    Except that would be RAAAAACIST.

  119. Alden says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Blacks really do hate Whites it’s true. Affirmative action for Hispanics and high immigration has blasted a lot of blacks out of government offices. So fewer and fewer nasty encounters with vicious blacks who deny Whites whatever they’re supposed to get, from new car registration to building permits. Glad I lived to benefit from affirmative action for Hispanics and Asians.

  120. Alden says:
    @Alfa158

    I and a lot of other law enforcement people worked hard on that recall.

  121. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Jesse

    Lol that one gave me whiplash. First paragraph, nodding along, second paragraph, facepalm.

    I’d agree with #2 as well if you’d have mentioned that Kavanaugh was a Bush flunky and contemptible on those grounds, but comparing him to Epstein? Someone is watching to much TV.

  122. Alden says:
    @Fred C Dobbs

    I was a probation officer in 1969. The 10 percent black population committed almost all the crimes in that county. The black criminals were about 18 to 45. They were born between 1924 and 1951.

    Their fathers were not the black hardworking married churchgoing respectable black men conservatives imagine existed before Lyndon Johnson’s 1964 war on poverty feed and breed policy. Their fathers if known all had lengthy criminal records. Their mothers were as bad. Some of those families were 4 generations of criminals.

  123. Alden says:
    @J.Ross

    Signatures were gathered for a petition. Enough signatures were gathered that it got on the ballot and her impeachment won by a landslide. A few years before the chief of police and district attorneys associations succeeded in getting 3 strikes and use a gun go to jail on the ballot. Those propositions won.

    She and some jerry brown Hispanic judges overturned those propositions Or just voted to over turn them, I forget.

    60s 70s High black & brown crime in California people were outraged. All democrat women against the recall because Bird was a woman.

    Supposedly behind the law enforcement front group that did the impeachment it was really some big businesses she and her Jerry Brown Hispanic buddies ruled against.

    They’d had enough of her anti business rulings and used her pro black criminal rulings to get rid of her.
    All she’d ever been was a Santa Clara county public defender. Santa Clara was mostly White middle class very low crime when she worked there. So she really didn’t know what crime was. Most of the real monsters were black White victims. 2 young black men 19 18 20?? Raped and murdered 2 old White sisters in their 80s burglary and home invasion.

    Rose Bird voted to overturn their convictions because police questioned them without dey mammas present. They were legally 18 and adults. Of course black criminals are emotionally and intellectually about 4 years old at 18.

    She was a weird one. Never married probably not a lesbian came home to Santa Clara after law school and lived with her mother all her life.

    But her court rulings were pure communist revolutionary set the black animals free to do what they will to Whites. I don’t think she’d ever been a judge when Brown appointed her to the state Supreme Court. That’s very unusual.

    But Jerry Brown is very unusual. Very revolutionary drive Whites out of the state for some reason. Bird was his most radical henchman.
    C
    But, if she and her Hispanic brown appointed buddies hadn’t ruled against a major business and set precedents for more rulings against business; the money and incentive to impeach her wouldn’t have been there.

    Rose Bird was not unusual in the context of N California and the Bay Area. Lots of serious radicals in government. She just went too far and got caught.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    , @Anonymous
  124. @Alden

    Speaking of Jerry Brown, I recall during his first term around 1977-78 Brown was quoted saying something like, “Mexicans are the new favorite minority. They do less crime, dysfunction than blacks.”

    It was something like that. The gist was Hispanics make a better group to champion. California’s “black leaders” attacked Brown then and when he made a try for the Democratic nomination in 1980, in which he didn’t get much traction against Carter and Teddy.

    But the idea of Hispanics being preferable to blacks was a (secret) preoccupation for Jerry Brown and many others.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    , @J.Ross
  125. ErisGuy says:

    Dropped into the Memory Hole: “Storming Las Vegas”

    “On September 20, 1998, Jose Vigoa, a child of Fidel Castro’s revolution, launched what would be the most audacious and ruthless series of high-profile casino and armored car robberies that Las Vegas had ever seen.” — Amazon Review

    Currently in production as a film. Never made it to the screen on CSI.

  126. Anonymous[876] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    Yes that’s the difference between the old left and the new left. The old left went after big business, the rich, and the middle classes alike. The new left still goes after the middle class but is now very careful not to antagonize big business and the rich.

  127. @David In TN

    “Mexicans are the new favorite minority. They do less crime, dysfunction than blacks.”

    True, but our blacks aren’t going anywhere. It’s not like we’re trading them for Mexicans.

  128. J.Ross says:
    @Jesse

    Did you see the press conference where Gloria Allred was holding up Roy Moore’s brother’s signature as proof that Roy Moore is the devil, and she got called out on it, so she rolled up the paper and wouldn’t let anyone see it or ask about it? If I thought Kavanaugh was a monster I’d have a problem with him, but his accusers were established two-bit liars, levels below three card monte hustlers.

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