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I used to look like this.

With all the current emphasis on hearing from too-long suppressed Voices of Intersectional Diversity, we are getting a crash course in what Women of Color have on their minds. Which often turns out to be: Let’s talk about how adorable I am. Let’s complain about how white racism causes white people to constantly talk about how adorable I am.

From the New York Times opinion page:

Stop Calling Asian Women Adorable
When I’m at work I want to talk about work. Not my hair or skin.

By R.O. Kwon
Ms. Kwon is a novelist.

March 23, 2019

It’s impossible for me to catalog all the times I’ve been in a professional setting when someone thought it appropriate to tell me about my appearance.

Most recently, I was at a literary festival in Georgia. I had just talked about my book for a little under an hour… a woman complimented me on my remarks and said she was excited about my book. Then she added: “You’re adorable. I wish I could adopt you.” With a big smile, she walked away.

There was also the bookstore event at which, during the question-and-answer portion of the evening — and in front of a packed crowd with whom I’d just been discussing craft, books, literature — a woman told me how cute she thought I was. There’s the time I guest-taught at a graduate program, and a fellow professor called me and my friend — both of us on the faculty and both of us Asian-American — “little lambs.” There are the innumerable times professional colleagues, people I barely know, strangers even, have told me my skin is alabaster, and my hair silklike and shiny. My skin’s not especially pale, and even if it were, this would be weird, and diminishing. It’s objectifying.

But now I’ve got this Spooky Asian Goth Girl thing going on for my branding.

Donchoo just hate that? Getting called “adorable”? It’s the worst! What? That doesn’t happen to you much? Well, it happens to me all the time.

Why is it so weird, you might be wondering. Aside from the colorist comments about my skin, some of these words — adorable, cute, silky, shiny — could be taken, incorrectly, as compliments. I acknowledge that there’s luck, and privilege, in inhabiting a body that others might find appealing. But when I’m at these events, I am at work. I am talking about my profession, not about my hair or skin or any perceived cuteness.

I’m not claiming, like all those black girl writers do, that everybody asks to touch my hair. It’s not some weird kinky hair that you can’t quite imagine what it would feel like without touching it. My hair feels just like it looks: long, silky, smooth, exquisite.

Admittedly, everybody wants to touch my hair, but few dare ask. Like I could tell that guy from Amazon Studios at the Asian Writers cocktail party really wanted to run his hands through my hair, but then his date dragged him off on the pretext that he had to meet Viet Thanh Nguyen. LOL!

Try to imagine someone commenting on a white male writer’s appearance during his Q. and A. Try to imagine having his appearance repeatedly brought up in a professional setting, as though it’s the part of him that matters most.

Then try to imagine an audience member at a literary festival eagerly addressing this author as Chris — when he is in fact Mark, and a full eight inches taller, with a different hairstyle and wearing glasses different from Chris’s. But white men don’t generally get elided like this. Asian people do. I have a running joke with close Asian-American writer friends that if we have never been called by each other’s names, we might not be friends. This is a joke born of pain, of a hundred too many times someone has called me by another Asian woman’s name, and vice versa. I’ve been mixed up with women many years younger or older than I am, and with East Asians and South Asians and Southeast Asians.

You can see why I went with Raccoon Eyes mascara as my trademark. The Asian woman writer racket is a jungle out there, so a girl’s gotta do what a girl’s gotta do. I mean, check out the hapa they stuck next to me in this picture. (The hot one, not the boring one.) I’m not saying she’s an illiterate s*** who has probably got two Jewish guys and a lovelorn lesbo writing all her novels for her, but you know what they say …

In other words, it’s not just me, not at all. An Asian novelist friend tells me that at three separate events over three days, she was publicly called cute or beautiful three times. When the Netflix show featuring the tidying-up consultant Marie Kondo debuted, three prominent white feminists tweeted that Ms. Kondo was a “pretty little pixie” with “fairylike delicacy” and that her speaking Japanese on her show was symptomatic of America’s decline. When I spoke out against these statements, I was asked why I was getting bothered about a compliment. “You’re so cute when you’re angry,” a stranger told me. “Shut up, cutie,” another said.

“Cute.” “Adorable.” “I wish I could adopt you.” “Pixie.” These are things said by feminists, writers and people who take time out of their weekends to attend a literary festival. A lot of progressive people, and would-be well-meaning people, many of whom, I imagine, would be dismayed to learn anything they’ve done could be thought racist. Because that’s what it is — however well intentioned, it’s racism.

Hollywood is another place full of progressive people who participate, nonetheless, in racism toward Asian people. … In the past year, we’ve seen some improvement. In August, “Crazy Rich Asians” was released …

R.O. Kwon is the author of the novel “The Incendiaries.”

Did I mention how much money Crazy Rich Asians made? Wouldn’t your movie studio or television streaming service like to tap into that Asian market? Asians are crazy rich so you need to option a literary property by an Asian like tomorrow.

I heard that David Ellison likes feisty Asian girls. Do you think that’s true? Do you know anybody who knows David Ellison?

He produces science fiction movies, right? All science fiction nerds like Asian girls. To them, we’re, like, from the future, or something.

But who cares why? He’s dreamy. I just hope his dad doesn’t spend his whole inheritance.

 
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  1. Six months from now, from the same author, without any self-awareness:

    “Why have men suddenly decided I’m invisible?”

    This women’s “novels” must suck ass, if she’s so dang unaware of how humans work. Perhaps she should try writing woke scifi with John Scalzi instead?

  2. I’d date her, she’s adorable.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @PaceLaw
  3. TWS says:

    Sure, don’t call me adorable. Did I tell you how hard it is to be hot, sexy, and Asian?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  4. You likee my sexy whining, Yankee boy?!!!

    • LOL: M. Hartley
    • Replies: @Hans Tholstrup
  5. @R.G. Camara

    Again with the Scalzi. Punching down is beta, Vox.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  6. Anon[236] • Disclaimer says:

    LOL, oh Steve, you’re killing me! I’m glad my wife had just left the house before I read this and started convulsing in laughter like a maniac.

    Is this a case of Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism, or a variation?

    Marie Kondo is genuinely an extreme case of tinyness and adorability, and I live in Japan and see nothing but young, telegenic Japanese women on television every day. If you cannot call Kondo pixieish or fairylike, what are the words even for?

    But I do feel for the author, the yearning to be a victim, but the struggle to find a grievance.

    There is something particularly annoying about Korean-Americans versus other Asian-Americans. They seem so quick to take offense. This, by the way, is exactly the reputation Koreans have in Japan: The petulant boxer at the Olympics refusing to leave the ring. Maybe there is a genetic component if this survives immigration to a new country and then a couple of generations later.

  7. bgates says:

    Part of a series:

    Yes My Black Body Has a Nine Inch Penis – But What About My Mind? by Loquacious Jackson

    I Am Not My Eight Figure Net Worth by Sheldon Abramowitz

    Loquacious Jackson Dumped Me for R.O. Kwon and It’s White Racism’s Fault by Amy Harmon

  8. Anonymous[236] • Disclaimer says:

    Try to imagine someone commenting on a white male writer’s appearance during his Q. and A. Try to imagine having his appearance repeatedly brought up in a professional setting, as though it’s the part of him that matters most.

    My guess is Asians do notice whiteness as something special in Asia. Western cuties have been swarmed in Asia.

    If she thinks her exoticism isn’t part of the marketing package, she’s either stupid or dishonest. Or pitifully unaware.

    Would her novel have garnered the same attention if written by a white girl?

  9. JimDandy says:

    No problem, lady. You look like a fucking nightmare.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    , @Svigor
  10. anonymous[283] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, R.O., you look terrible in those jeans!

    • Replies: @Forbes
  11. Anonymous[236] • Disclaimer says:
    @TWS

    If her main concern is work, she should dress more modestly.

    Wasn’t there some Asian girl who broke down crying because her professor told her dress more modestly lest she attract male gaze? Her name was Letitia something.

    So, one Asian brat whines about how people notice her, and the other Asian brat whines about how her wish to be noticed was thwarted.

    Still, not as kooky as Emma Sulkowicz.

    Could all these girls be only childs? Too much parental devotion on one kid leading to super-brat behavior. A problem first noticed in China.

    Little empress.

    https://catholicexchange.com/has-the-one-child-policy-spoiled-chinas-children

  12. AndrewR says:

    Someone should track the frequency of these narcissistic Salonesque articles at the NYT over time. It is rather embarrassing to have the most prestigious newspaper in the US turn into this.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    , @Thinker
  13. Pre-Sailer snark, I honestly had no idea that touching adorable Asian women’s hair was a thing among US guys. Really? One does learn something new just listening to early 21st century snark.

    • Replies: @OFWHAP
    , @üeljang
  14. @SunBakedSuburb

    lmao. Not Vox, but thanks for the compliment. 😉

    • Replies: @Lot
  15. Gunner says:

    Why are white guys constantly blamed for offenses mostly done by liberal white women?

    • Replies: @Bill B.
  16. Anon[128] • Disclaimer says:

    Most recently, I was at a literary festival in Georgia … a woman complimented me on my remarks and said she was excited about my book. Then she added: “You’re adorable …”

    After looking at her interviews on YouTube, she’s not that cute, even for an over-the-hill goth. She has a Margaret Hamilton cleft nose. And she is … I don’t want to say fat, but she has a definite smell about her of pre-zaftig. So I’m thinking she’s gotten whatever remarks she’s gotten in places like Georgia, either from fat, black women, or from friendly middle-aged Southern white women, who are going to complement you one way or the other (unless you qualify for the “Well bless your heart” insult), so they just look for the pigeonhole that is closest to you, and use that complement. You’re not supposed to take it that seriously. So maybe a cultural disconnect.

  17. If we say they smell like the kitchens of cheap Chinese restaurants, is that OK?

    • LOL: Kylie
    • Replies: @PaceLaw
  18. @JimDandy

    Correction: she sounds like a fucking nightmare.

    There’s a small subset of Asian-American female comedians (yes, a small group to begin with) who have decided that Sarah Silverman is a good role model. That is, if you look cute and girlish when young, get a reaction by being unfeminine, vulgar, filthy, rude, and boorish.

    It works mildly well for shock value when they are young and cute (as it did with Silverman), but past age 30-35 it’s just a middle aged broad with a potty mouth and no real jokes. MadTV nailed Sarah Silverman’s one-dimensional act back in the day (begins at 2:30):

    Joan Rivers had a potty mouth (and was attractive in her 20s), but that broad had jokes.

  19. J.Ross says: • Website

    See? Not all Koreans have had plastic surgery, that’s an awful stereotype.
    But apparently the universal distribution of martial arts mastery is true because she needs it to be at the moment.

  20. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    But the little Emperor thing was understood to be a globalization byproduct. All these people are born in the West, this is like the second generation Muslims in France burning banlieus.

    • Replies: @OFWHAP
  21. @Anonymous

    Call it psychological neoteny. And it’s hardly limited to Asian women. Many women can opt for permanent childishness, and many do. More than anything, this whining covers for mediocrity. Talent stands on its own and is always in demand.

  22. Tarrou says:

    “Ms. Kwon is a novelist.”

    So who at her work is telling her she’s adorable? Don’t novelists work from home? Did she have to get a job so that people could compliment her so she’d have something to write about?

  23. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tom From RFNJ

    Im not attracted to asian women. They all look the same to me.

    • Replies: @Flip
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    , @Tex
  24. Paul says:

    A number of the Asian women I have known do not want to “all look alike” and have made an effort to look more like white women. They wear caps and visors that help keep the sun from darkening the face. They wave and lighten the color of their hair. Some even go so far as getting surgery to make their eyes more round. Permanently switching to blue or green eyes is more difficult.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  25. Anonymous[280] • Disclaimer says:

  26. Donchoo just hate that? Getting called “adorable”? It’s the worst! What? That doesn’t happen to you much? Well, it happens to me all the time.

    Would you ever admit if this actually did happen to you all the time, Steve?

  27. JimB says:

    5.5, 7.0, 2.0, 8.5

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  28. Dtbb says:

    I suppose this article is just one example of her “professional writing”. I can imagine what she would write if people ignored her.

  29. “But when I’m at these events, I am at work. I am talking about my profession, not about my hair or skin or any perceived cuteness.”

    I’m sure she didn’t spend an hour doing her make-up, doing her hair, and picking out the most flattering outfit possible before the event.

  30. @Anon

    But I do feel for the author, the yearning to be a victim, but the struggle to find a grievance.

    That’s the heart of it, right there.

    But kudos to Steve for his take on this one. I was LOLing.

    Also noteworthy: from what Steve has quoted in his post, all of Kwon’s complaints are about the behavior of fellow progressives. The contexts in which she was subjected to vicious condescension and racism were graduate seminars, literary festivals, bookstore events, etc. That makes her whining that much cuter.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @Hail
  31. You know how novels from the 19th century (and before) could go on for 200 words just describing the appearance of a newly introduced character? And not just report his appearance but make all kinds of inferences about what those appearances said about his character? I wonder if those novels will have to be deplatformed one of these days.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @anon
  32. I think she’s adorable.

  33. AaronB says:

    I actually think this one is a somewhat reasonable complaint.

    Whites don’t take Asians seriously. Even the easy willingness whites have to admit Asians have higher IQs is based on the fact that whites don’t really believe it. They don’t really see Asians as an intellectual threat.

    And Asians do look more harmless and childlike than whites.

    But people want to be seen as formidable and powerful. Being seen as harmless isn’t necessarily a compliment, at least in America.

    And this talk of Asian women being adorable doesn’t translate into actual higher status on the sexual hierarchy, where white women are most prized. That is why white women in this articles so easily describe Asian women as adorable. They do not feel themselves to be in a serious rivalry.

    One might think Asians have it so good in America any complaining is absurd, but every group wants to be on top – having it good is never enough. That’s the law of intergroup relations – each will try and dominate as much as possible. And as wealth and prosperity increase, competition for status will become even more fierce.

  34. Escher says:
    @Anonymous

    True. I see Asian women ooh-aahing over white babies and young children all the time. They are also fascinated with big (round) eyes.
    I don’t see gweilos writing grievance pieces in the South China morning post or Straits Times about this behavior.

  35. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    I for one have no problem not calling Kwon “adorable”.

  36. @Anon

    My own observation is that Koreans westernize faster and harder than other East Asians. Unfortunately, since the currently dominant Western culture is victim-ism and grievance mongering, they are westernizing to that.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  37. Lot says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Vox Day and his IQ that is so very very high is hot on the trail of the Christchurch massacre false flag.

    https://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/03/immigration-war.html

    Personally, I suspect the Mossad.

    • Replies: @Flip
    , @Vinteuil
  38. Flip says:
    @Anonymous

    Im not attracted to asian women. They all look the same to me.

    I’d want my children to look like me.

  39. Flip says:
    @Lot

    That video was utterly fake.

  40. Jack D says:

    Kwon to white man: “Asian women are not kittens. They will fuck you up. You got that white boy?”

    White man: “Asian women are not kittens. They will fuck you up.”

    Kwon: “Racist!”

  41. TheBoom says:

    Her comments are really a win/win in the minds of women. Position herself as a victim while bragging about being hot and Asian.

    It is particularly amusing coming from an Asian because body positivity is not a value here. They want to be white, slender and gorgeous with beautiful hair and skin. They are not shy about it and spend a lot of money on it. They believe that the cover is the book.

    Asia is filled with skin whitening clinics and skin care clinics for women. Cosmetic surgery (especially for getting a White or Korean style nose) is huge. There are as many of those as 711’s and massage parlors (the male equivalent when a happy ending is an option).

  42. Paul says:

    Asian women tend to not have much of a bosom.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  43. Forbes says:
    @anonymous

    Those jeans make her ass look yuge…

  44. Lot says:

    “Everyone calls me cute, it is just awful. I am a little bit into girls too, hehe. Take me seriously!”

  45. Bubba says:
    @R.G. Camara

    How in the world can she deny she was in a really cute Korean girl band? C’mon!!!

    • Replies: @mikemikev
  46. prosa123 says:

    The “girl” at Orchids of Asia who serviced the most tricks, though apparently not Robert Kraft himself, was 58 years old. It’s pretty hard to imagine a white woman that age being so popular.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  47. @The Last Real Calvinist

    “all of Kwon’s complaints are about the behavior of fellow progressives.”

    Ex-progressive blogger Kathy Shaidle used to write about how she and her female friends constantly got micro/macro-aggressed/harassed at progressive events. She said this experience virtually disappeared after she switched sides and became a conservative.

    I think one of the things that keeps a few hetero white guys in the lefty camp is the perceived Get Out Of (Sexism) Jail Free Card of lefty politics. And also the women are looser.

  48. TheBoom says:

    Asian women come to America and mimic the Jewish women. The Asian women are smart enough to see how the game is played and how to successfully play it.

    Like Jewish women, they don’t care about harming their hosts.

    The only difference is that Jewish women want to redefine beauty to include them while Asian women want to brag about how hard it is to be more desirable than Jewish and White women.

    • Replies: @üeljang
  49. Anon[239] • Disclaimer says:

    Kwon is a Korean name. Koreans are outgoing and violent. Some East Asians are demure, but Koreans are very seldom demure.

  50. We White men only wanted you before you were poisoned by American-Style feminism. We thought you were like OUR women before feminism poisoned them. Once you were poisoned, the Yellow-Fever died. Now, rendered toxic by American-Style feminism, you’re just some Yellow Feminist like “Sarah” Jeong of the New York Times, a racist, toxic feminist dish rag. And now no one wants you. You are invisible. Don’t cry to me about it. Bee-Otch.

    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/encyclolzpedia/images/4/44/Sweet-asian-girl-flips-the-bird-1-.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20101218212938

  51. Got Yellow Fever? She wants to marry YOU, White man!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Pericles
  52. Roger says:

    Is her article some kind of weird joke? Is it a writing exercise in taking offense and trivialities? Is she mentally ill?

    I looked at her novel for more clues. It seems to be some sort of fantasy about herself.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incendiaries

    Here she explains the excessive black eye shadow.
    https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/why-i-always-wear-black-eyeshadow.html

    In short, she is just another female narcissist looking for attention.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    , @M. Hartley
  53. JimDandy says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Yeah, Joan Rivers was hilarious–and truly hot when she was young. Asians and humor tend to go together like peanut butter and ketchup., which, in itself, can result in some truly funny situations, like when Gavin McInnes wrote a column for Takismag parodying the concept of white privilege by simply replacing the word “white” with “asian” and then hordes of witless asian nerds arrived at the comments section to hilariously show that they didn’t get the joke. (Which reminds me of the fact that Takismag instantly lost about 90% of its relevance when Taki’s idiot spoiled rich bitch of a daughter banned the comments section in a fit of pique.)

    https://www.takimag.com/article/tackling_asian_privilege_gavin_mcinnes/

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @MBlanc46
    , @Byrresheim
  54. The reason Asian woman have become sought after now is by default. It’s because white women have gone the way of black women: Fat, loud, materialistic, tattooed, single mothers, and nothing any sane man would marry.

    But if there we could invent a time machine and get an influx of ’60s-era European blondes like Elke Sommer and Sylvie Vartan, Asian women would go back to scorned as Yoko Onos. I think the writer of this article senses this, hence the defensiveness.

    • Agree: TheBoom
    • Replies: @Marty
    , @anon
  55. Anon[128] • Disclaimer says:

    There are many YouTube makeup tutorials for those who want to attain her look.

  56. Zoodles says:

    Its always the Koreans who end up being the craziest east asian SJW types

    • Replies: @M. Hartley
  57. syonredux says:

    You can see why I went with Raccoon Eyes mascara as my trademark. The Asian woman writer racket is a jungle out there, so a girl’s gotta do what a girl’s gotta do. I mean, check out the hapa they stuck next to me in this picture. (The hot one, not the boring one.) I’m not saying she’s an illiterate s*** who has probably got two Jewish guys and a lovelorn lesbo writing all her novels for her, but you know what they say …

    And now I learn that that goddam b!***’s book has been optioned!!!

    • Replies: @syonredux
  58. ‘You have such nice hair and skin,’ they said to every homely/fat girl, ever.

  59. My answer: Done. (To be honest, pretty sure I’ve never called an Asian woman, or any woman for that matter, adorable…)

  60. I was behind an Asian woman on an escalator recently. I could not see what she looked like, but her black hair was lustrous.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  61. syonredux says:
    @syonredux

    How did this Peng broad get optioned ahead of me? What does she have that I don’t? ……Wait, she’a married to an Indian dude? AAAGH…..extra intersectional diversity points….

    Does this mean that I gotta marry a Black guy now? Or maybe I should marry a Black woman….Beat that, Peng!

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  62. Anonymous[240] • Disclaimer says:

    So, basket of deplorables now have to do battle with bento of adorables(Asian American glitterati).

    Only in America.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bento&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

  63. @R.G. Camara

    R.G. I’m all for zits for Asian women. Rats nest hair. Skanky breath…whatever. Oh, and your baby is ugly, there is that better?

  64. KunioKun says:

    Asians trying to ape Black and Jewish race games are so adorable. Maybe they think it works like a math formula. You just swap out a few variables like the race and add it up to get wonderful cash and prizes from stupid White people.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @M. Hartley
  65. bored identity thinks he got this one;

    Kwon is not cute.

    Or adorable.

    Nobody would wish to adopt her.

    And she definitelly ain’t pixie.

    Can she at least shoot ping-pong balls ?

  66. donut says:

    She’s not really very attractive , maybe what she’s really mad about is all the hotter Oriental babes being called adorable .

    Subic Bay in the RP. when you first went ashore they all looked hot because they were different , exotic but after a while not so much . The Navy and the locals had an arrangement to keep VD controlled . The local police were really hard on independent whores , the police would arrest them constantly and so the only way to get laid was to go to the various bars where the girls were inspected weekly . There was what they called a “Subic Bay marriage” where you came to an arrangement with the woman who ran the bar ( some of them were owned by local cops and pols.) to buy your sweetheart out of the bar for a specified amount of time . You had to sign a contract to be responsible for her upkeep for that time . If the marriage went bad as they often did what the girls being whores and all , you had to buy your way out of the contract . A lot of guys married those girls for real in the end . I remember one guy saying that Subic had to be the only place where you go ashore with $20 and have a meal get drunk get a blow job take a taxi back to the main gate and still have change left over . Such are the joys of empire .

    • Replies: @M. Hartley
  67. @R.G. Camara

    Amazing that MadTV took down Sarah Silverman back then. You probably could not do that now even though she remains insufferable and boring. Agreed that Joan Rivers was brutally funny.

  68. Svigor says:
    @JimDandy

    Yeah. I could’ve worked with this, if she wasn’t ugly.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  69. Ironically, one of the less adorable and cute Asians she is. In fact, I think we might need to call BS on her article.

  70. Sorry all you thirsty middle aged istevers, RO Kwan already has a man:

    • LOL: Tusk, M. Hartley
  71. Marty says:
    @Days of Broken Arrows

    Reading this thread, I’m at a SF restaurant looking at the hottest late ’50’s woman I’ve ever seen, a mix of Dyan Cannon and Goldie Hawn. No tattoos I can see, only two bracelets. Man does she have that bored pout down pat.

  72. jim jones says:

    Korean girls have an entire set of hand gestures (aegyo) specifically designed to make them look cute.

  73. Hail says: • Website
    @Anon

    There is something particularly annoying about Korean-Americans versus other Asian-Americans. They seem so quick to take offense

    R.O. Kwon graduated from Yale in 2005, implying a birth (in South Korea) circa 1983. She immigrated to the USA circa 1986/87, according to her Wiki. High school graduation circa 2001, and angry rejection of her parents’ Protestant Christianity (for America-consumerist-approved Atheism) circa 2000 (per wiki).

    In 1999, the left-leaning scholar Chalmers Johnson wrote Blowback, mainly about U.S. policy in Asia in the second half of the 20th century and how it would come back to bite the U.S. sooner or later. The book got little traction from its publication in early 2000 through August 2001, then skyrocketed in popularity starting in September 2001. It remained popular for a few years, despite not being about the Muslim world at all but about East Asia; Johnson shoehorned-in an introduction about 1980s Afghanistan in the post-9/11 editions.

    Anyway, could it be that Kwon is an example of what Chalmers Johnson imagined “blowback” to be? And in more extreme (but not fundamentally different) form, Kwon’s co-national, the odious Sarah Jeong. These kinds of elite figures are, today, embedded at high levels within the U.S. system and thus constitute major domestic political liabilities.

    While we have lots of our best people working on containing terror attacks and the like, no one is formally tasked with containing the Kwons and Jeongs, who are instead encouraged, celebrated, and promoted to the New York Times editorial board.

    What produces a Sarah Jeong, or this lite version, R.O. Kwon? If our goal is to fit R.O. Kwon and S. Jeong into the Chalmers Johnson thesis, we might propose that these b.1980s South Koreans inherited certain anti-American cultural attitudes as a result of U.S. policy in Asia/Korea in their parents’ and grandparents’ times, which metastasized in their (Kwon’s and Jeong’s) political consciousnesses, leading them to lash out at Whites in the present day, and essentially agitate against us from within our own system; an unfortunate form of “blowback.”

    I would note that the critical period for the formation of these two Korean females’ political consciousnesses was the mid-late 1990s to mid 2000s, a period of rather high anti-Americanism in South Korea.

    The more I think about it, the more this seems as decent an angle of approach as any towards understanding the Anger of Kwon and the Genocidal Rage of Jeong. Not a full explanation, but something to consider.

    Call it cultural blowback. A updating for present, observed conditions of Chalmers Johnson’s blowback concept, proposed twenty years ago.

    Of course, it wouldn’t matter nearly as much if Invite The World hadn’t been (and continues to be) in place. But that’s another story.

  74. J.Ross says: • Website
    @JimDandy

    Joan Rivers was a genius and it is a truly tragic sign of our times that one of her last interviews was a comedically illiterate water-carrying Acostan at CNN prompting her to self-confess and apologize.

  75. @Paul

    Asian women tend to not have much of a bosom.

    A Japanese-American comedienne whose name I forget says that Japanese women inherit their breasts from their fathers.

  76. njguy73 says:
    @R.G. Camara

    This women’s “novels” must suck ass, if she’s so dang unaware of how humans work. Perhaps she should try writing woke scifi with John Scalzi instead?

    She shouldn’t write fiction at all. She’d be of more use to the human race if she wrote biographies of prominent Korean-Americans.

  77. @Jim Christian

    Is that their pledge of allegance?

    And does she have her whole pinky?

  78. @Clifford Brown

    Those are swishstikas!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  79. PaceLaw says:
    @Tom From RFNJ

    Your comment is quite sublime my friend!

  80. Anonymous[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    “What produces a Sarah Jeong, or this lite version, R.O. Kwon? If our goal is to fit R.O. Kwon and S. Jeong into the Chalmers Johnson thesis…”

    You are over-thinking this. They attend US schools that filled them with PC and the usual Poz. As Asians tend to be studious, they take PC more to heart. Also, they are surely anti-national everything, not just America. That’s why globalists find them useful. The deep state in the US tried to destroy the presidency of a man who ran on moderate civic nationalism. What does that tell you?

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Hail
  81. MBlanc46 says:
    @AaronB

    They come to my country and want to “be on top”. And I’m supposed to watch my every word so as to not microagress them? Get serious, Aaron.

  82. PaceLaw says:
    @Days of Broken Arrows

    And I thought I was the only one who thought that. Lol!

  83. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    They resemble a wulfsangel, which has one piece like a Cyrillic I* and one vertical crosspiece, symbolizes the protection of boundaries, and is thought of as “half” a swastika. But of course Sarah wouldn’t know that, she just wants to ignorantly bring up Nazism every ten minutes.
    *Because of this resemblence, Ukrainian Nazis have a variant with the symbol flipped, so it looks like a capital N. This allows you to tell people, “it’s not backward, it’s Ukrainian!”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @M. Hartley
  84. MBlanc46 says:
    @JimDandy

    Taki’s used to be my breakfast reading. “Come for the articles, stay for the comments”, I used to say. Then they eliminated the comments, and were quite nasty about it. I won’t go back, even for Steve Sailer.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  85. PaceLaw says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Thanks!!! That was definitely spot on!

  86. J.Ross says: • Website
    @AaronB

    I disagree with almost all of this but the biggest point is (per Monsieur Blanc) Asians never got all the way out of the middle ages. Nominal status in Asian societies never got drubbed, humiliated and urinated on like it did over here during industrialization. Some Asians look at our relatively egalitarian society not as a way toward legal fairness but as crude and insulting. Our failure to be impressed by a academic credentials or to be worshipful toward doctors is not seen as a legitimate position but as unrestrained boorishness. Eliot Rogers is the worst case scenario, but the exact same attitude is fully depended on for Crazy Rich Asians: why aren’t you more in awe that my parents have a lot of money?

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Anon
  87. Here’s another adorable cutie, one who shares something in common with Ron Unz: a three-letter forename and a three-letter surname.

    • Replies: @Joe Joe
  88. anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Your theory isn’t worth considering at all. These types know nothing about Korea, don’t speak Korean, and don’t have Korean friends. Their personalities are as American as it gets. You’ll have to look elsewhere to understand their anger.

    • Replies: @Hail
  89. @Anonymous

    Yeah, I’ve never gotten what the big deal was about Asian women either. I mean, us guys like curves, right? Asian chicks generally have flat butts and boobs compared to white girls. And no variation in eye and hair color either. From a purely aesthetic standpoint white women are superior.

  90. David Ellison IRL is married to Sandra Lynn Ellison (formerly Modic), a blonde country singer from Orange County who is (dare I say it?) adorable. https://stock.adobe.com/ee/editorial/david-ellison-executive-producer-of-the-new-film-star-trek-into-darkness-poses-with-wife-sandra-lynn-modic-in-hollywood/156724073

    • Replies: @Captain Tripps
  91. So wait? Compliments are considered racist now? I can’t keep up with the current trends anymore.

  92. @Anon

    I watched an interview with Zadie Smith. She came across as thoughtful, smart, serious. I doubt anybody calls her adorable or cute at literary festivals.

    Kwon, on the other hand, is bubbly, nervous, chirpy, gushing in this video. I think the ‘you’re adorable’ comments are what people say because she has no gravitas or interesting ideas.

    If she wants people to stop calling her cute she should take cues from Zadie Smith.

  93. @Anon

    I don’t like her eyes. Too ethnic. She needs to get that plastic surgery thing that gets rid of the flaps. The “cute” thing is out of the question for her, so we need to dig deeper.

    Reviewing the video, she’s too hyper, and tries too hard. She’s a bit of an unpleasant experience. I think most of the people who are saying “you’re so cute,” are trying to politely say, “calm the fuck down.”

    Usually, you don’t tell hyper people to calm down, because it makes them worse. The way you do it is to try to distract them by offering up a non-sequitor, because then they have to stop talking, and think. This gives you, the victim, a chance to reroute the conversation, or better yet, escape.

    So her entire article is about her completely misinterpreting her level of import in other people’s lives, their tactics of managing her neurosis, and taking literally their strategies intended to simply get her to shut up, because she’s annoying, and unpleasant to listen to.

    I hope somebody wises her up one day.

    • Agree: Change that Matters
    • Replies: @M. Hartley
  94. Sbalfa says:

    This all seems to be woman on woman but it’s never explicitly stated. What man would want to feel a woman’s hair? Call out those Betsys baby. White cisgender heteronormative males got nothing to do with it. I don’t care about your feelings.

  95. @syonredux

    That’s really an impressive couple. What a pleasant countenance, the perfect complement to great beauty.

  96. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:

    “Me victim too, me victim too!”

    “Me still in coalition of fringes also”

    “Me promise vote Democrat!, so media/entertainment complex/ professors not all turn on me”

    The article’s real underlying plea to the readeeship.

    • Replies: @Spangel
  97. @Almost Missouri

    I knew the man who, along with his parents, were most responsible for evangelizing Korea.

    Never met better.

    Don’t let the SJW outliers fool you – Korea was westernized old style and much of what was best about the West is preserved in their character.

  98. bored identity found not one but two winners.

    The first one definitely kwontifes as a a cute pixie:

    The second one started her hapaordinary successful career – right after she was adopted by the wookie :

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  99. Anonymous[913] • Disclaimer says:

    Carnival of Seouls

  100. @J.Ross

    *Because of this resemblence, Ukrainian Nazis have a variant with the symbol flipped, so it looks like a capital N. This allows you to tell people, “it’s not backward, it’s Ukrainian!”

    Я!

  101. @Desiderius

    Don’t let the SJW outliers fool you – Korea was westernized old style and much of what was best about the West is preserved in their character.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    , @Desiderius
  102. Hail says: • Website
    @anonymous

    I think you may be profoundly underestimating possible levels of ethnocentrism here.

    These are not adoptees with no connection to their ‘birth’ culture, as you seem to be saying. You are either ignorant of basic biographical info, or trolling. In fact, they were raised by their natural (Korean) parents and probably have a reasonably strong Korean identity. Jeong certainly does (IIRC, from her tweets). Recall that both Kwon and Jeong were, in fact, born there. And the odds seem high that both Jeong and Kwon do speak Korean, as they probably speak it with their parents.

    Anyway, the above is all, at least partly, beside the point: All it would take for them to qualify under Chalmers Johnson’s ‘blowback’ (or my rendering of it, here) is a strong psychological attachment to a foreign victim-identity, and viewing “their people” as victims of the USA.

    The ‘blowback’ aspect is a four-step process: [0] Some U.S. actions in or regarding Korea in the 20th century; [1] their parents’ immigration in the 1980s, [2] the U.S. system investing heavily in them (education, etc.) in the 1990s and 2000s; [3] their embracing of the anti-American narrative around [0] out of Korean ethnic feeling. All yielding the blowback: [4] their political hostility to White Americans.

    Their personalities are as American as it gets

    Maybe like the urban-cosmopolitan of a certain ethnoreligious orientation (which I will not name out of prudence), but not so much like the Middle America White Protestant.

    don’t have Korean friends

    I have no idea who their friends are. But I would ask this: How many Kenyan friends (or, Luo friends) did Barack Obama Jr. have?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Reg Cæsar
  103. … would-be well-meaning people, many of whom, I imagine, would be dismayed to learn anything they’ve done could be thought racist. Because that’s what it is — however well intentioned, it’s racism.

    I hope you don’t mistake you for one of THOSE people. I’m well-meaning, but if I were to call you a cutie and compliment your rear end, I won’t be worried about being called a racist. I am OK with the fact that I think Orientals are cute, but non-Oriental Asians are mostly not.

    You go ahead and talk about your novel, and don’t worry your pretty little head about this anymore, Miss Chen, or is that the other cutie?

  104. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    Yeah, I’ve never gotten what the big deal was about Asian women either. I mean, us guys like curves, right? Asian chicks generally have flat butts and boobs compared to white girls. And no variation in eye and hair color either. From a purely aesthetic standpoint white women are superior.

    You really haven’t had much exposure to Asian-American women, have you?

  105. @KunioKun

    Yep, that’s pretty much how it works. Prizes like getting published by the NYT.

  106. @bored identity

    Like that New Year’s Eve guy Dick Clark, these Oriental women just DON’T AGE. Those 2 centenarians don’t look a day over 85.

  107. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    they are surely anti-national everything, not just America

    Do you have any specific examples of this?

    Would be curious to see cases of the women slamming, e.g., Korea and Koreans, in the way they make insinuations against, casually demean, and attack White America(ns).

    As this is the first time I’d ever heard of R.O. Kwon, I cannot comment on whether she is “anti-national everything” or not.

    As for the Sarah Jeong, I think evidence points away from being “anti-national everything.” I recall someone here, or elsewhere, searched her tweets for mentions of Israel, and found only a small handful, generally all positive. (Not even that time in 2014 when Israel terror-bombed 2,000-some Palestinians to death to keep ’em in line; 2014 is also the year of many of Jeong’s furious anti-White screeds.) I also think Jeong’s tweet-references to her own country of origin, Korea, were all positive.

  108. @Hail

    Maybe like the urban-cosmopolitan of a certain ethnoreligious orientation (which I will not name out of prudence), but not so much like the Middle America White Protestant.

    Plenty of us Middle American White Protestants with our heads fully up our asses presently, I can assure you.

    • Replies: @Hail
  109. @Roger

    The kohl-rimmed eyes worked for Brigitte Bardot and Claudia Schiff. For R.O. Kwon, not so much.

  110. Hail says: • Website
    @Desiderius

    Maybe so, but somehow I cannot really imagine one of our own quite pulling the trigger on this kind of article. Conceiving, writing, or publishing. Can you?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  111. Hail says: • Website
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    the yearning to be a victim … the struggle to find a grievance

    ^ A good title for a Stuff White People Like-esque parody self-help book.

    It’s a good line, but I’m not sure how much it captures of Kwon’s psychology and approach to the Art of the Grievance, being that I know little to nothing about her.

  112. Hail says: • Website

    For those of you saying, or potentially thinking, “Kwon has no Korean identity at all!” — See this rundown of the lead characters of her novel:

    Characters

    Phoebe Lin, a South Korean-born American, born Haejin Lin, who is reeling from the double loss of her piano playing and the loss of her mother who died shortly before she entered university.

    John Leal, a half-Korean American who is the son of missionaries. While doing activism work helping North Koreans escape their country to go to China, he was captured and spent time in a North Korean gulag. Upon his release he grows increasingly radical in his methods.

    Will Kendall, a former evangelist who gradually loses faith after his father abandons the family, leaving them in debt and his mother emotionally and financially dependent on him.

    Yes, there’s no denying it. Kwon is someone with a pretty strong Korean identity, which she holds pretty firmly to her chest.

  113. Anon[315] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    In Asia these days, women can get rewarded for looking and acting and talking like pixies. But in the US, that will only get you trampled by competitive white women who busy are getting ahead in life. Asian daintiness is not good for a career in this country. It’s associated with passivity and not being an intelligent grownup or a responsible person.

  114. Anon[315] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    The vast majority of Asians come from the peasantry. Their ancestors were dirt-poor, and that’s why they’re obsessed with money and think it confers all the status they need. In pretty much all Asians countries historically, money gave you the power to do virtually anything you wanted to other people. If you were rich, you could toy with them and destroy them, and the law was too weak/poorly enforced to stop you.

  115. Bill B. says:
    @Gunner

    Living mostly in Southeast Asia I never see white women behave like this. But I do see Asian women complimenting each other on their looks at the time.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
    , @J.Ross
  116. @Anon

    There is something particularly annoying about Korean-Americans versus other Asian-Americans. They seem so quick to take offense.

    Now we will make you pay for this insorence!

    • LOL: bomag
  117. Lagertha says:

    why do women object to men who they think they are cute/desirable/sweet/hot/nice; Why? why confuse men? I want my sons to only link up with Finns, Icelanders or Japanese girls – more rational and super smart. However, there is Ed Spread:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  118. @Zoodles

    But why? Why, God, why?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  119. jon says:
    @Anon

    Koreans are outgoing and violent. Some East Asians are demure, but Koreans are very seldom demure.

    From my experience, this is pretty accurate.

  120. @Anonymous

    She use F word so you know she mean business

  121. @Hail

    but not so much like the Middle America White Protestant.

    Like Mayor Peter-Pull Buttcrack of South Bend, who married his husband in the Cathedral of St James in that city. Need I add, the Episcopalian Cathedral of St James?

    His husband’s name, by the way, is Chasten. His first name.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  122. So funny that tonight’s episode of American Gods introduced a new character, one of the new gods: New Media. Last season featured Gillian Anderson as Media, in the guises of Marilyn Monroe, Lucille Ball, and David Bowie. But New Media came in the form of a 20-something Korean girl in a school-girl outfit. And frankly she’s not that adorable. As Technical Boy says, “That’s supposed to be an upgrade?”

  123. @Hail

    I read the Wikipedia synopsis of her novel as well.

    It suggests that Kwon is mired in doubt and uncertainty after very self-consciously abandoning her Christian faith, and then wrote what looks quite a bit like a bildungsroman that’s all about apostacy and the subsequent search for meaning.

    Kwon’s discomfiture with her place in the world of contemporary western progressives adds an interesting facet to my pet theory, i.e. that SJWs in general are heretical post-Christians who try to substitute themselves into the Christian story in the place of Jesus: i.e., they suffer from Substitute Savior Syndrome.

    In this worldview, PoC are just pawns; they’re the poor victims whom the SJWs condescend to and ‘save’. The obverse of this is that PoC have considerable power as victims qua victims; they can act out without much consequence, and issue their outrageous demands, because their SJW saviors deep down don’t expect anything better from them. SJWs and other leftists treat PoC as being less than fully human — since they are victims of their fates, they lack true agency. They are there to be saved by their betters.

    But Asian Americans are in a bind: are they saviors, or are they victims? Should they expect to condescend to ‘real’ PoC like their white SJW friends do, or should they try to wrest the mantle of victimhood from hands darker than their own?

    Both impulses likely exist and struggle for supremacy in Ivy-educated AAs such as Kwon, especially when they’re feted by the dominant leftist culture in academia and publishing.

    Weird articles like the one Kwon has just published are one result. From the NYT’s point of view, publishing this kind of stuff may well be good for Narrative maintenance; it lets off some steam that might otherwise build up and blow apart the Coalition of the Fringes.

  124. My experience with Koreans is that they are the dumb, socially tone-deaf hillbillies of Asia. I’ve heard the Japanese can’t stand them, won’t let them immigrate much there. I don’t blame them. Their attempt to assimilate into American life most often turns into a sad vaudeville act. First generation Koreans kind of try, and mostly fail to assimilate. Second generation do better, but usually try to hard.

    In business, they’ll ask for your advice, listen, then dismiss it, and go on to do something stupid. It’s not so much that they’re arrogant. They just can’t grasp the WHY of doing things. They only value the “how.” They will pick the simplest “how,” and commit to it without deviation.

    I’ve never met a first and even second generation Korean who is good at “why” things.

    I don’t know why.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    , @J.Ross
  125. @Roger

    I looked at her novel for more clues. It seems to be some sort of fantasy about herself.

    This describes the entirety of female lit, if not the entirety of female existence.

    In short, she is just another female narcissist looking for attention

    Um, redundancy much? Have you at last no shame?

  126. @Anonymous

    Marketing, marketing–‘I’m queer,’ ‘Your compliments are racist,’ the f word–everything is marketing. (Marketing, pc-style, where you insult your potential customers!) Then again, Steve has observed that for years.

  127. Hugh says:

    I think the term “white feminist” may be code for:

    250 pound-bluehair-muff-snorkeler with some fairly obvious mental health issues.

    Now her comments make more sense.

  128. @TheBoom

    Her comments are really a win/win in the minds of women. Position herself as a victim while bragging about being hot and Asian.

    Dollars to doughnuts this little anecdote never even happened in the first place. More likely it came to her at 5am one morning when she couldn’t get back to sleep.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
  129. @Lagertha

    “I’m in love with the shape of you”? WTF? Q’ECQC’E? ¿QP?

    His real wife is white.

    Has he recorded any real songs?

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    , @Lagertha
  130. @Hail

    Forget “blowback.” These are affirmative action babies. They get paid for their racism.

  131. @M. Hartley

    Its always the Koreans who end up being the craziest east asian SJW types

    But why? Why, God, why?

    These people are known for their brinksmanship above all else. It’s in their blood.

  132. @KunioKun

    Your post could pretty much stand in for this entire comment thread, and the article too.

  133. @donut

    Such are the joys of empire.

    Another essential component is called “overpopulation”.

  134. @Hail

    How many Jeongs and Kwons equal a Seung-Hui Cho?

  135. @J.Ross

    Or maybe they’re a symbol pertaining to storm sewer maintenance from the Dept of Public Works, but why quibble?

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  136. @Chinese Miss Manners

    I hope somebody wises her up one day.

    She’s writing for the New York Times now, so it’s fair to say that day isn’t coming any time soon.

  137. Anon[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheBoom

    We stop calling you ‘adorable’ if you stop eating dogs.

    • LOL: jim jones
  138. El Dato says:

    “I’m not an Asian. I’m a fracking Cylon.”

    “And I will literally put this Battlestar on FIRE”

  139. Antonius says:
    @Anon

    Chameleon eyes? Chosen nose?

  140. Commenters; are you TRYING to piss Twinkie off?

  141. @Hail

    What produces a Sarah Jeong, or this lite version, R.O. Kwon?

    Who cares? There is a class of woman, profane, feminist, overall rather cuntish, who work for these news outlets no one outside their region ever reads. We know what they are, they get the figurative back of our hand and they disappear, only read by certain political/personality types. Haven’t heard from Sarah Jeong myself, since Goad wrote her up as a yellow, pan-faced, chronic complainer, angry that White men invented everything that makes her life comfortable and possible. It’s a type of woman.

    And I really don’t care if she’s a yellow pan-face. A crunt is a crunt. We all know it. Femininity is dead, gents.

  142. @Clifford Brown

    There could be a utility down below.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  143. @Anonymous

    I am sure that most white male writers are fairly ugly (of course BLOGGERS are quite dashing) and nobody has a reason to compliment them.

    • Replies: @DFH
  144. @Reg Cæsar

    Asians with red hair is even more ridiculous than Mexicans with blond, or Black women with purple.

  145. DFH says:

    Do people read these novels? How many?

  146. DFH says:
    @Father O'Hara

    I am sure that most white male writers are fairly ugly

    female ones too

    • Replies: @OFWHAP
  147. DFH says:

    Her novel is about a white man and an Asian woman by the way. Sometimes I really do feel sorry for Asian men.

  148. George says:

    Adorable is better than nail bar sex slave. The Asian immigrant female experience:

    Is your manicurist a sex slave? Nail salons are booming all over Britain. But behind the glossy facade, lies a shockingly disturbing story…

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2396774/Is-manicurist-sex-slave-Nail-salons-human-trafficking.html

  149. anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    Incredibly wrong.

    White and especially Jewish women of my generation (people marrying now) in major cities CERTAINLY feel threatened by asian women.

    Go to a pre-school in Brooklyn or San Francisco to see why.

  150. Dtbb says:
    @M. Hartley

    Yes. Orange for communication. Red for electricity. Blue for water. Green for sewer. Yellow for gas. Purple for reclaimed water.

  151. anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    the white women spawned by boomers are human garbage.

    YOU try dating in the bay area in 2019.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  152. I personally consider blondes, especially Ameriskanks, to be decidedly unattractive. I’m always reminded of how quickly they devolve into lumpy, fuzzy-faced, dyed-at-the-roots harpies.

    Although I think of myself as a traditionalist, somehow I’ve always been excited by seeing “the Other”, i.e., Oriental (NOT Asian, that’s a continent of disparate races) women. So much so, that I am seriously considering becoming a rabid leftist, and declaring myself to be a transgender oriental lesbian. That way, I can get all the nookie I want, PC-guilt-free. After all, both race and sex are simply social constructs, n’est–ce pas?

  153. TheBoom says:
    @M. Hartley

    Dollars to doughnuts this little anecdote never even happened in the first place

    I bet that is the case with most of these female grievances just as it is with the widespread instances of Haven M raping women

  154. TheBoom says:
    @Bill B.

    But I do see Asian women complimenting each other on their looks at the time

    Agree. One of the more unique manifestations of this that I have seen involves my Asian girlfriend. She is considering a nose job. She will approach someone she spots as having had a particularly good nose job (not clear how she spots them).

    She will then get into an indepth discussion on price, name of doctor and whether the person was satisfied with the procedure. I have never seen one of these complete strangers show any impatience or irritation with her. They act as if it is the most logical thing in the world.

  155. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It’s hilarious that E. Michael Jones (whose views are close to Israel Shamir’s) was Pete Buttigieg’s neighbor when Pete was growing up (like Pete, Jones’ son was valedictorian at St. Joe’s and went to Harvard). Jones also knew Pete’s dad (a Notre Dame prof who was in the same academic field as Jones). The insights into Buttigieg by Jones are priceless.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  156. @Paul

    “all look alike”

    They may “look alike” to us white people, but I’m sure they don’t look alike at all, to one another. Conversely, they think a lot of us “look alike”. More than a few times, I’ve been amused when an Asian woman has mistaken me for another white guy who (in my opinion) looks only vaguely like me.

    caps and visors

    My favorite are the ones with visors that look like protection for welders.

    • LOL: jim jones
  157. Just spit-balling here, but I’m going to peg Ms. Kwon as a “Feminist-Activist Asian Girl” under the Fung Brothers’ 18 Types of Asian Girls typology:

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  158. Plot twist: she’s not even cute. that nose and jaw, yikes. Is that what Koreans look like without plastic surgery?

    I wonder if she’s married to a white man… no, man doesn’t feel like the right word. Wonder if she’s married to some dickless white urbanite hipster? Odds are pretty high

  159. üeljang says:
    @TheBoom

    But Asian women are generally not more desirable than White women. Maybe more desirable than a Jewish yenta, but that’s not saying much.

  160. anon[430] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    “They seem so quick to take offense. This, by the way, is exactly the reputation Koreans have in Japan: The petulant boxer at the Olympics refusing to leave the ring. Maybe there is a genetic component if this survives immigration to a new country and then a couple of generations later.”

    I was told years ago that there would be no “Japanese Century” or whatever because could never lead or represent Asia, since they had invading and mercilessly holocausted every other Asian country at some point. Probably why they think Koreans are “so quick to take offense.”

  161. anon[430] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    It was decades before I realized that those weird “olive skinned” characters were code for “Jew”.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  162. anon[430] • Disclaimer says:
    @Days of Broken Arrows

    Yoko Ono was pretty hot in that girl scout uniform she wore when she and John were “co-hosts” for a week on the Mike Douglas show. Of course, I was 13 years old.

  163. J1234 says:

    “Stop Calling Asian Women Adorable”

    Adorable? I’ve mostly thought of them (and sometimes referred to them) as “insect-like”: low (flat) affect, hyper-purposeful and one-dimensional in terms of personality. The only ones who are actually physically adorable are some Japanese, Thai and Korean women…who can have more European like features. There are some charming Chinese women, but most seem a little insect-like to me. Vietnamese and associated populations aren’t remotely appealing, either in terms of looks or personality.

  164. anon[430] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    “I knew the man who, along with his parents, were most responsible for evangelizing Korea.”

    George Costanza’s father?

  165. mikemikev says:
    @Bubba

    That’s Baby Vox, my favorite.

    • LOL: Bubba
  166. @Anon

    Koreans have a term for it, which they call “Han”. It’s hard to quantify in western terms. I guess it could be described as a gnawing feeling of oppression and sadness whose cause can’t be quantified, and it stays there like an itch that can’t he scratched. My guess is the root cause is the uniquely depressing history of the Korean people combined with Confucian stoicism. But it probably does account for the defensiveness you find in many Koreans.

  167. @Desiderius

    Interesting. I didn’t know there was such a person.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  168. @Earl Lemongrab

    …Sandra Lynn Ellison (formerly Modic), a blonde country singer…

    Did I miss a news cycle? Did they dig up the remains of Hank Williams and have them ground up to dust? Just more cultural appropriation from us Scots-Irish. Modic sounds vaguely…Croatian? (update: Google search showing most common in Slovenia, right next door to Croatia, so my first instinct wasn’t too far off) Ah well, ashes to ashes, dust to dust…

  169. Tex says:
    @Anonymous

    Im not attracted to asian women. They all look the same to me.

    You date one, then an hour later you want to date a different one.

    • Replies: @Hennie
  170. @Redneck farmer

    I was thinking the same thing…

  171. Spangel says:
    @Anon

    I agree. Looks like the powers that be have let too many stories out about the rift between asian and black priorities when it comes to admissions to selective schools.

    Time to paint Asians back squarely in the coalition of the fringes. Look at that white beauty standard. Asians are being oppressed by it!

    Her complaints aren’t even complaints. More like humble brags but the fact is that sjws can’t even find legitimate complaints about how hard it is to be an asian women in today’s society.

  172. WE ARE NOT KITTENS WE WILL FUCK YOU UP

    So will kittens. Try petting one on the belly.

  173. @Anon

    Mountain people who have resisted multiple invasions kind of wind up that way.

  174. anonymous[283] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Classic “bi now, gay later” After seeing vids of her she very much seems to be a repressed Asian lesbian. Come out, dear. You don’t need to craft novels to do it!

  175. @Jim Christian

    There could be a utility down below.

    There is always a utility down below. –Mae East

  176. @Anonymous

    My guess is Asians do notice whiteness as something special in Asia.

    When my brother visited Viet Nam, he had whole villages following him, touching him, the first Northern European they’d seen, and begging for baksheesh. (He travelled with a friend of Vietnamese heritage, and they went where tourists usually don’t go)

  177. @Chinese Miss Manners

    True story: I had some involvement with the American office of a Japanese company. The entire office was shut down and everyone replaced after one of the Japanese junior managers got in this bitter, bitter dispute with a Korean accountant. He dragged the entire office into his little blood feud. It was surreal.

    In defense of Korean-Americans, they make excellent Roof Koreans.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  178. @anonymous

    Women go to big cities to catch big fish. If you’re not you’d do well to do your own fishing elsewhere.

  179. Sojourner says:
    @Inquiring Mind

    I can never get this tune out of my head upon hearing. It’s just so damn adorable!

  180. @Hail

    Your first paragraph nailed it. She’s rejected Christianity? Okay, sounds like she’s hot to mimic the atheist Jews she met in college. They were smart and mouthy! That’s who she wants to be like. Some submissive, Christian, girly, pretty, Korean? No way, Jose!

    somewhere on here someone posted a link to a K-pop video. I had never watched one of those before, but it sure was tacky and sticky and treacly and… I could sort of feel for this chick who wants out of that stereotype.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  181. @Hail

    One of our own? White, male, and straight? In the Times?

    No, of course not.

    Whiny and self-absorbed? Where do you think she learned it? People like that in the rising generation aren’t bothering to ruin churches and seminaries like the previous few did, so maybe there will now be space for renewal and we can get our balls back and re-establish real colleges/newspapers et. al.

    Who knows?

    • Replies: @atlantis_dweller
  182. @Reg Cæsar

    That’s the soap scum of Globohomocorp, it’s everywhere. Doesn’t have much to do with what’s happening on the ground.

  183. Sojourner says:
    @Hail

    I’ve thought about this a few times but I’ve come away believing that first generation Asian parents come here with a certain ignorance to the fact that the culture they grew up in is such a large factor to how they ended up being as adults. So they have children raised here with a certain way of mindset/ discipline at home which is truly out of step with what the culture they’re in now is teaching. The kids obviously succumb to group think, which is more of a cultural norm along East Asians, and end up like this. If the parents are the stereotypical strong arm/ not much affection shown parents, well, the kids will really go off the rails. It’s basically a collection of follies that give birth to your “want to bitch about made up problems” women like Kwon or Jeong.

    Not all of them, or maybe even a majority, but course they’re the loudest

  184. “Try to imagine someone commenting on a white male writer’s appearance during his Q. and A. Try to imagine having his appearance repeatedly brought up in a professional setting, as though it’s the part of him that matters most.”

    Let’s hear from . . . Emily Eakin at The New York Times:

    “Mr. Murray — affable, gently weather-beaten but still ruggedly handsome at 60 — more plausibly suggests a gentleman farmer than America’s most notorious social scientist.”

    Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/25/books/a-cultural-scorecard-says-west-is-ahead.html

  185. @Desiderius

    If that were truly the case, your “man” and his “parents”, were active in the evangelical mission field well over a century and a half ago. You need to do a bit of research before you opt to plunge into B.S.-landia.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  186. That adorable feminine practice of working to receive praise and flattery and working to show they would rather not receive any of it. The complainboast or lamentvaunt.

    A coin with two sides: joined at the root, made of the same substance, yet appearing as opposite, and truly looking in two, contradictory, directions.

    • Replies: @ricpic
  187. @Desiderius

    Real colleges, in a mature democracy? Lol.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  188. OFWHAP says:
    @J.Ross

    It’s very much Chinese writers in China who complain about the Little Emperors. I’ve heard Chinese parents speak about how their one child is so spoiled by its four grandparents since it’s likely that those four grandparents have only one grandchild. There is a “Children’s Day” holiday in China. Of course this all could be a byproduct of globalization, but it’s not just the Chinese living in the west who spoil their children.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  189. OFWHAP says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    When I visited China back in 2007, the Chinese women would touch the hair on my arms, chest, and head (I have wavy hair). However I did not react by writing op-eds to the People’s Daily expressing my disdain toward these racial affronts claiming that I am not a petting zoo.

  190. OFWHAP says:
    @DFH

    That handsome lady simply looks like Oscar Wilde to me…

  191. @Redneck farmer

    LOL. We all gotta start calling Twinkie “adorable.”

    Twinkie: They used to call me the Grim Reaper.

    Everyone: That. Is. Adorable! 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Twinkie:

    [MORE]

  192. @Anon

    Good observations Anon[128].

    Bottom line–what JackD said:
    I for one have no problem not calling Kwon “adorable”.

    I was going to pitch the theory that this is a weird try-hard whine by a very plain looking Asian gal who has hit the Wall. Having blown her shot–a decade back–to sell some white beta with prospects that he was getting an “Asian girl”, she’s now working a SJW whine angle playing on the “cute Asian girl” stereotype even though she gets none of that anymore, if ever. Ego salve.

    But i think you’re getting at the actual dynamic that i missed. Nice (perhaps southern) white ladies, using “cute” for a small annoying hyper chick, basically for the lack of anything better to say.

    And your Margaret Hamilton observation–brilliant. If someone accidentially tosses a bucket of water on her, i’ll be ready to break out in song.

  193. Thinker says:

    Sometimes Steve’s sarcasm can get a bit much for me, but in this one he had me LOL.

    What a cringy, narcissistic article. I’m embarrassed for her that she thinks she speaks for her tribe.

  194. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Bill B.

    Yeah, compare “wanting to touch a black woman’s hair.”

  195. Thinker says:
    @AndrewR

    Someone should track the frequency of these narcissistic Salonesque articles at the NYT over time. It is rather embarrassing to have the most prestigious newspaper in the US turn into this.

    NYT has long relinquished that title to the WSJ. The Journal is now the most subscribed paper in the US, not the NYT. Many Bernie fans still hold a grudge against the Times for their biased coverage for Hillary during the 2016 Dem primaries, and most conservatives I know have always referred to it as a piece of trash.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  196. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Chinese Miss Manners

    Aw lawd he comin’.
    But seriously they had cities and a highly-developed civilization, and were considered Number Two to China at its height. Hillbillies don’t develop celadon. Surely “Asian hillbillies” would be Hmong, who come from actual hills.

  197. @Clifford Brown

    In the spirit of Christian charity, I’d give credit to SS for a decent job trolling SJWs.

    Except … the SJW stuff is so over the top, this is indistinguishable and hence doesn’t work. Which makes her tweet just really pathetically stupid and embarrassing.

  198. J.Ross says: • Website
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    There are a ton of stories about Asians getting hung up on a symbol representing status and everything spiralling into violence, that’s the beginning of the Chushingura.

  199. J.Ross says: • Website
    @anon

    There’s a sub-plot in either the Big Sleep or the Maltese Falcon where Bogart caustically describes over the phone the appearance of a femme fatale who had just sacrificed the guy who gets drunk in House on Haunted Hill, and it’s not spelled out but strongly implied that she separates her milk and her meat.

    • Replies: @Anon
  200. Hennie says:
    @Tex

    Im not attracted to asian women. They all look the same to me.

    You date one, then an hour later you want to date a different one.

    I saw what you did there, and I hope you’re proud of yourself.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  201. Nick Diaz says:

    Steve Sailer, you are such a putz. Your whole argument in a nutshell:

    “Men’s piggish behavior towards women is ok because women secretly enjoy being harrassed.”

    That is basically it. No further subtlety in describing your argument is needed because there is none. Even worse are the virgin nerds that constitute the majority of your sycophants agreeing with you. You truly are a basket of deplorables.

    And BTW, relating to your argument that any minority other than blacks should not be entitled to reparations because the WASP establishment never discriminated against anyone but blacks, I am still waiting for you to explain the 1924 Immigration Act, which argued that southern and eastern Europeans should be barred from entering America on the grounds that they were *biologically* inferior to (north)western Europeans. Or why Harvard and Yale had Jewish quotas, allowing incompetent WASPs in and denying more academically deserving Jews. I am also still waiting for you to explain to me why every U.S President up to the 21rst century had a (north)western European surname, with 90% of them being from the British Islands. Hell, even Kennedy had a hard time winning the Presidency simply because he was a Catholic, and Kennedy is an Irish surname. Let’s make somethign clear: there is *zero* chance that an Italian-American Catholic could become President back in the 1940’s and 1950’s. Zero. In fact, he would not even receive the nomination from either the Democratic or Republican parties. If you weren’t an Aglo-Saxon protestant, the higher positions of American Society, even in the business World – let alone the political World – were barred from you. If your origins were in the British Isles but you weren’t Protestand, they might grudgingly make and exception and accomodate you like they did to Kennedy, but anyone who deviated too much from that had no chance.

    The Englishmen and his descendants in North America, Australia and so forth are the biggest cancers in this World. I cannot think of any ethnic and cultural group that caused as much human misery and suffering as the Anglo-Saxon. They created the most evil empire ever, one of the crassest economic exploitation, starting endless wars for the benefits of a few plutocrats, a society that reduces human beings to atomistic relations of self-interest. Anglo-Saxon culture is the only truly inhuman culture ever. At least the Mongols of Genghis Kahn had a code of honor, and they felt obliged to follow it even if it cost them their lives. The ancient Romans created an empire mostly because they were forced to fight endless defensive wars, and they at least admired Greek culture and aspired to be more than a farm animal. Or the communists, who despite their mass murder and crimes, at least had good intentions of creating a more just and fair Society. What about Anglo-Saxons? Nothing but absolute debauchery at the servicve of the lowest human insincts. Pure snarling greed with barely even the pretense of having any altruistic motivations besides becoming rich no matter how mucn human suffering that causes. From the British Empire invading countries to make their populations addicted to opium, or to destroy their incipient industry so that these countries would remain economic slaves of English credit and industry, to fomenting wars between European countries for the benefit of as few English bankers, Anglo-Saxons are the biggest thieves, murderers pieces of shit to ever walk the face of the Earth.

    I would be ashamed of myself if I were an Anglo. To know that my ancestors got a bunch of Chinese little kids addicted to opium fo increase the profit margins of the shareholders of the trading companies they worked for, or invaded countries to destroy their industry and independence and condemn them to debt slavery to English banks forever without any hopes of getting out – the same thing the U.S Anglos did after WWII with the creation of the World Bank and IMF, shackling most of the World to slavery to Wall Street. *Shameful* . The British are the original Evil Empire. The Spanish colonists in central and South America were boys scouts compared to the English. Reagan used to call the Societ Union an evil empire. And they were, having killed tens of millions of people. But at least they had an ideology of noble intentions, wanting to create a more just and equal society. At least that. What about the English? They killed even more, stanrting endless wars, revolutions and upheavels, and they did it for no other reason than profits and the aggrandizement of their plutocrats. The original Evil Empire. Shameful. The destrouction of WASPs and their societies will be a blessing. Hell, even white people will benefit from that. 90% of European wars had the ugly putride thumb of the Anglo-Saxon behind it.

  202. J.Ross says: • Website
    @OFWHAP

    I didn’t specify living in the West, compare the change in diet. Also it’s very Chinese to be jealous but people lose sight of how rapidly their standard of living improved.

  203. Thinker says:
    @Anonymous

    So she’s bisexual as well. Figures. You’d have to be pretty psychologically twisted to write such a shamelessly narcissistic piece of trash for the New York fucking Times.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  204. Thinker says:
    @Anon

    Another narcissistic, white hating Korean chick like Sarah Jeong! NYT sure loves them.

  205. ricpic says:

    So there really are Jap JAPS.

  206. @Captain Tripps

    Pretty sure this clip is just a marketing exercise for the delectable Porter Lynn, who clearly has a claim on the title of, “Ultimate Asian Girl.”

    • Agree: Captain Tripps
  207. @Anonymous

    I was once in an elevator with E Michael Jones and E Christian Kopff. I wanted to ask if they had the same E, but couldn’t work up the nerve.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  208. @stillCARealist

    K-pop is the musical equivalent of snorting 100 pixie sticks in one minute. That’s the entire point.

    Even K-pop lesbians like Moon Byul are charming Asian pixies.

  209. anonymous[895] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Lin isn’t a Korean surname. Someone with a “pretty strong Korean identity” would not make such a stupid blunder as giving a fictional Korean character the surname “Lin.” You’ve just demonstrated the opposite of what you thought you’d prove.

  210. MBmb says:

    Her cuteness is only surface-deep.

  211. Anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara

    This screed is like those Andrea Dworkin writings scolding men over the way they objectify women when really what’s going on is that the author is angry because they have no interest in objectifying her. Who would actually be calling The Ring’s evil older aunt adorable?

  212. @parlaphonerevolver1980

    Ah drive-by troll self-beclowning.

    1. Follow the link I provided.

    2. Then google his dad.

    3. Come back and apologize.

    4. Get a life.

    • Replies: @Byrresheim
  213. @Thinker

    Pinch is going for the plunge for distance record on regressing to the mean.

  214. @atlantis_dweller

    Democracies are inherently unstable. Christian men have traditionally played a longer game than that by two or three orders of magnitude.

    • Replies: @atlantis_dweller
  215. Of course no one criticizes White writers for there appearance.

    Game of Thrones author rebuffs health fears with the finger and F-word

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jul/10/game-of-thrones-george-rr-martin-rebuffs-fretting-fans-finger-f-word

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  216. @MikeatMikedotMike

    “wnb”

    You mean “no Kwon do”?

  217. @Nick Diaz

    At least the Mongols of Genghis Kahn had a code of honor, and they felt obliged to follow it even if it cost them their lives.

    And that’s why the Mongols are the collective towering monolith of civilization today.

    When they invaded undefended cities, they killed the men and ugly women, raped to good looking ones before enlisting them as concubines, and reprogrammed the children for mongol life–unless they were in a hurry, or pissed off for one reason or another, then they just murdered the whole city.

    Also, remember if it wasn’t for the last possible minute effort of the Anglo Saxon French back in the day, to defeat the Muslim scourge running over Western Europe, you’d be too busy kneeling on a prayer rug aimed towards Mecca to waste time playing on the internets, which wouldn’t be here because there would be no Anglo Saxons to invent it, old sport.

    Your lack of knowledge of human history is impossibly dense, yet you lack the humility to entertain the idea that you might be wrong in some way.

    This goes far beyond lack of intellect. You’re defining yourself by your deep neurosis. That broken record that keeps running in your head, making yourself, and those around you, miserable.

    And finally, are you a twenty-something Korean girl?

    I only ask because the NYT is hiring.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  218. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:

    Just like Jewish men vs Jewish women problems get projected onto the larger world, maybe Korean vs Japanese differences are being projected outward.

    https://www.japanpowered.com/japan-culture/what-is-kawaii

    In Japan, being cute and adorable in the thing.
    Maybe not so much about Koreans.

    Sushi vs Kimchi.

    But then why are all those soyboys of K-pop looking more like anime characters?

    Lots of stereotypes in below article, but maybe kernel of truth as well.

    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2016/04/298_83769.html

    But with the leveling impact of globalization, both groups could end up the same: globo-homo soyboy stupid.

    It seems Japan has dominated in defining the Western view of the East. Anime is probably the most successful cultural export to the West, even more than Godzilla and kung fu movies. So, Western view of Asian culture could be derived from Japanese cultural norms(or fantasies).

    So, Kwon’s “don’t call me ‘adorable’” could be “don’t judge me by Japanese standards of kawaii”.
    Kwon vs Kawaii.

    There was a similar tension among whites though. In the US and much of the world, Anglos and Germans defined whiteness because they were the most successful(and most numerous in America until mid-20th century). Therefore, ethnic whites conformed to standards set by Anglo-and-Germanic-Americans.
    But over time, the ethincs began to assert themselves, especially true of Italians and Jews whose shtick was basically “I’m not one of those bland and bloodless Anglo-types.” Camille Paglia can’t get enough of showing she’s a loud and brash ethnic women unlike all those ‘puritanical’ East Coast Anglo types.

    Japanese pop culture has had the biggest impact on the US, but the most Asian immigrants in recent yrs have not been Japanese, and they may assert personalities different kawaii culture so pervasive in Japan.

    There could also be a rebellion against the Western stereotype of Asian women as ‘demure’ and more feminine, even girlish. But this is self-defeating because, by rejecting such stereotype as ‘Western bias’ and trying to conform to Western womanhood, they are admitting to inferiority of Asian culture. Why else make such an effort to rise above Asian stereotypes to conform to Western ones(that have changed dramatically over the yrs) to prove that they’re just like Western women?
    Also, by straining to conform to Western ideals, they are only proving that Asians are very conformist and eager for approval from the dominant norms.

    • Replies: @The Evil Dr. Zin
  219. guest says:

    She’s identified as a novelist. Where does a novelist work that she hears comments on her skin and/or hair? Perhaps she’s hallucinating at home in her study.

  220. guest says:

    I’d like to point out that kittens can eff people up (they are animals with sharp instruments), and I think I could take an Asian woman enraged by compliment if it came to that. Even if they had some martial arts training. Because I’m bigger and faster.

  221. guest says:
    @Clifford Brown

    If she were making fun of her persecution paranoia, this would be uncommonly (for her) good humor. I tend to think that’s not the case, but don’t know for sure.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  222. Anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Each time they print one of these articles in the NYTimes, the Jewesses running that rag must be high fiving and congratulating themselves.

    It’s working! The evil genius plan is working!

    Now white men will see that Asian women are just as brainwashed, narcissistic and white men hating as women of all other groups, and they might as well go back to dating white women.

    Genius!

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Pericles
  223. “A hundred times I have been called by another Asian woman’s name” “Oh, Phuck, oh phuck.”

  224. @Reg Cæsar

    Jones is Eugene and Kopff is Edward. The latter datum didn’t show until the seventh page of Google hits, from Encyclopedia.com.

  225. @Nick Diaz

    The Englishmen and his descendants in North America, Australia and so forth are the biggest cancers in this World.

    “Happy #CincoDeMayo! The best taco bowls are made in Trump Tower Grill. I love Hispanics!”

  226. @George Taylor

    Of course no one criticizes White writers for there appearance.

    Yes, there’s something about people named George, isn’t there?

    Or I should say, following your example, “isn’t their?”

  227. @The Evil Dr. Zin

    Also, remember if it wasn’t for the last possible minute effort of the Anglo Saxon French back in the day, to defeat the Muslim scourge running over Western Europe, you’d be too busy kneeling on a prayer rug aimed towards Mecca to waste time playing on the internets…

    Maybe he is. D-i-a-z spelled backward is Z-a-ï-d.

  228. @Anonymous

    But with the leveling impact of globalization, both groups could end up the same: globo-homo soyboy stupid.

    Did someone mention Nicolas Cage?

    Broken soyboy’s marrying a “cute little china girl…” again.

    She’s adorable!

    https://people.com/movies/nicolas-cage-applies-marriage-license-las-vegas/

  229. @Nick Diaz

    The Englishmen and his descendants in North America, Australia and so forth are the biggest cancers in this World.

    As Susan Sontag said, the white race is the cancer of human history:

    In more civilized countries like Somalia, Afghanistan, and Iran, they still execute such people. No Angloperversion allowed there!

    • Replies: @syonredux
  230. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:

    Pozzed by White PC into bashing whiteness. Even when POC attack whiteness, they take cues from white self-loathing. So boring. These ‘marginal’ voices are really just margarine white poz.

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/03/25/university-of-colorado-denver-course-removes-white-authors-from-curriculum/

  231. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:

    What awesome intellectualism:

    https://contemporarycondition.blogspot.com/2013/08/asian-girlz-white-patriarchy-and.html

    Impossible not to laugh while reading.

  232. Vinteuil says:
    @Lot

    Leave Vox Day alone!

    I mean, think of the struggle he goes through, every day, every week, year after year, squeezing his head through doorways!

    It’s a testament to his ultra-genius that he still lives to tell the tale of his National Merit Scholarship semi-finalism – which nobody can ever take away from him. Not even Jordan Peterson.

  233. @ricpic

    It is, but the ones who produce it also believe it.

  234. @TheBoom

    Some, unsurprisingly under-reported, studies on sexual preferences have found that preference for smoothness and fairness of skin is an anthropological constant.
    Without knowledge of these studies, women all over the world still seem to know it.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
  235. @Desiderius

    My point is that in democracy one of the wars running through society is destined to be the war on merit and skill. No way around it, no less than 80% of any constituency/demographics will want it.

  236. @Nick Diaz

    Now Harvard, and maybe Yale as well, have WASP quotas, as tacit as they are severe.
    History is a turning wheel.

  237. Lot says:
    @Nick Diaz

    “Let’s make somethign clear: there is *zero* chance that an Italian-American Catholic could become President back in the 1940’s and 1950’s. Zero. In fact, he would not even receive the nomination from either the Democratic or Republican parties.”

    Lol no.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Smith

  238. syonredux says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    In more civilized countries like Somalia, Afghanistan, and Iran, they still execute such people. No Angloperversion allowed there!

    Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, the issue of trans identity in Iran had never been officially addressed by the government. Beginning in the mid-1980s, however, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government and allowed to undergo sex reassignment surgery. As of 2008, Iran carries out more sex change operations than any other nation in the world except Thailand. The government provides up to half the cost for those needing financial assistance, and a sex change is recognised on the birth certificate.[1] As of 2017, the government provided transgender persons financial assistance in the form of grants of up to 25 million tomans ($1,730 USD)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  239. üeljang says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    It’s most certainly not a thing.

    Few white people are so boorish as to delight in touching random strangers’ hair, with or without their permission.

    Besides, anyone who actually had the experience of touching several (East) Asian persons’ hair would not be oohing and ahing about it. I imagine the next closest thing would be petting the head of a wild boar.

  240. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Thinker

    So she’s bisexual as well.

    Or at least she’s prepared to pretend to be bisexual to gain more SJW brownie points.

    95% of the women who claim to be bisexual these days are in fact entirely heterosexual.

    News flash: women will lie to gain status and social conformity points.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  241. @Clifford Brown

    MadTV did a lot of good skits, but strangely never got the cultural traction of SNL, and was even more strangely abruptly discontinued after a more than a decade of good late-night TV.

    MadTV concentrated on parodies, like the magazine, so I’m thinking a lot of the celebrity parodies hit too close to home and, not having the long tail of SNL and power of Lorne Michaels, the performers were blackballed a bit. Several, however, went on to have decent careers as second-bananas in sitcoms and comedy films, but only in a “hey you look familiar” sort of way.

  242. @MBlanc46

    I’ve avoided Taki’s except for Steve’s linked articles because Taki defends rape. When Roman Polanski almost got deported back to the U.S. a few years ago by European authorities, Taki was all about claiming that Polanski had “suffered enough” and “paid for his act”.

    I hate myself for sometimes hoping what Polanski did to that 13 year old girl happens to Taki and his loved ones. Such a scumbag.

    In short, Taki loves rape.

  243. @AaronB

    And this talk of Asian women being adorable doesn’t translate into actual higher status on the sexual hierarchy, where white women are most prized. That is why white women in this articles so easily describe Asian women as adorable. They do not feel themselves to be in a serious rivalry.

    Not even close. Both Asian and Latina women are higher on the hierarchy than Asian women. White women are constantly complaining about this.

    • Replies: @Spangel
  244. nebulafox says:
    @Nick Diaz

    >I am also still waiting for you to explain to me why every U.S President up to the 21rst century had a (north)western European surname, with 90% of them being from the British Islands.

    After the wave of mass immigration of the 1800s (before then, it was simple numerics that predicted a WASP-ish President), given that this was well after the Jacksonian tide of populist democracy has passed, I’m guessing that it was the usual socioeconomic class entrenchment leading to predictable outcomes: kids go to the right schools and get the right training. It wasn’t until relatively recently in American history that candidates from outside the East Coast Establishment could make it at all, regardless of ethnic background. Kind of like how the old creole Spanish elite in Central America intermixed with itself for most of its history and oddly enough, seems to end up on top of the social pyramid in those countries.

    Provincials like Richard Nixon or Jimmy Carter would have had a difficult time getting anywhere 50 years earlier, their WASP ethnic backgrounds notwithstanding. Al Smith only got as far as he did because of the unique opportunities he got in New York’s political machine. It’s mostly about class. Race is tangential-not insubstantial, since I do indeed doubt your average WASP aristocrat at the time would let their daughter marry some recent Italian immigrant-but not the primary motivator. If the Italian was a millionaire, it’d be a different story.

    >Let’s make somethign clear: there is *zero* chance that an Italian-American Catholic could become President back in the 1940’s and 1950’s. Zero. In fact, he would not even receive the nomination from either the Democratic or Republican parties.

    Um, no? Al Smith-only partly Italian, but fully Catholic-got the nomination in 1928. And he had he run four years later, he easily would have won.

    >I cannot think of any ethnic and cultural group that caused as much human misery and suffering as the Anglo-Saxon.

    Dude, you need to travel more if you really, truly believe the Anglo-Saxons were uniquely noxious on global standards, especially in anybody’s current lifetime. Go to Southeast Asia and ask an old person-like, say, my girlfriend’s grandmother, who narrowly avoided being pressed into service as a comfort woman-to compare British colonialism to the Imperial Japanese Army. I guarantee you they will challenge the idea that the Anglo-Saxons caused nearly as much human misery.

    (Yes, the Opium Wars were a black, ugly stain on the UK’s history by any stretch of the imagination-as even people at the time seemed to latently notice. But I seem to recall the rest of Europe-even the Russians, who had just fought the English and French in the Crimean War-being all too eager to amorally make huge profits in China afterwards as the Taiping Rebellion rocked the country and they burned down the Summer Palace… to say nothing, of course, about the Boxer Rebellion several decades later.)

    > The Spanish colonists in central and South America were boys scouts compared to the English.

    Oh, yeah, I’m sure the local Amerindians under the loving tendencies of the conquistadors and the slaves on Brazilian and Haitian sugar plantations would agree with that assessment. Maybe the mortality rates didn’t give them time to rationally think of how miserable remaining alive would be.

    I’m sure that the slaves on Brazilian plantations, at the mercy of the uniformly young, male, and malignant hardcore rapists and murderers the Portuguese tended to deport to the New World (as opposed to the petty drunkards, prostitutes, and debtors the British sent), would particularly not envy the fate of their American counterparts.

    >The ancient Romans created an empire mostly because they were forced to fight endless defensive wars, and they at least admired Greek culture and aspired to be more than a farm animal.

    I’m as much of a Romanophile as they come, but Rome was as expansionist, aggressive, and willing to be flat out cruel and treacherous as any other ancient power-the year 146 BC alone with the twin unprovoked sackings of Carthage and Corinth should prove that. They just happened to be better at conquering, and then more crucially, making many of the conquered peoples Romans themselves, than most.

    > 90% of European wars had the ugly putride thumb of the Anglo-Saxon behind it.

    It’s a helluva day when I’ve been coaxed out of retirement (yes, I’ve screwed up-after this, I’m gone) into defending the same British Empire who helped cause the neocon progressives of the day in DC to wreck Europe permanently in 1917-1918, but that day has come…

    So, according to that thesis, London manipulated the Defenstrations of Prague and cooked up the Time of Troubles? London caused the Turks to besiege Vienna? London caused the French Revolution and the Napoleonic aftermath? London snuck Lenin into Russia? London just forced Hitler to invade Poland? And London sent the Spanish Armada to… invade England?

    All the Frenchmen and Germans and Spaniards and Swedes and Magyars and Poles and Russians and Turks just dindu nuffin. NUFFIN, I tells ya!

  245. jim jones says:
    @Nick Diaz

    Why not tell us how you really feel?

  246. AndrewR says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Yeah, Oriental on Euro condescension is always encouraged

  247. @syonredux

    Yes, but homos are still hanged. Or whatever.

    That Shi’ite Islam buys into the “transgender” fraud is another issue entirely.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  248. @Hapalong Cassidy

    “Us guys” — nice try roastie, I can smell an assblasted white female from a mile away. Asian women are objectively aesthetically superior to white women in every way. Also white women with blue eyes/blond or red hair tend to have a gargoyle/Skeletor look.

    Hence why you get THIS:

    • Replies: @Jack D
  249. @nebulafox

    > The Spanish colonists in central and South America were boys scouts compared to the English.

    Oh, yeah, I’m sure the local Amerindians under the loving tendencies of the conquistadors and the slaves on Brazilian and Haitian sugar plantations would agree with that assessment. Maybe the mortality rates didn’t give them time to rationally think of how miserable remaining alive would be.

    Bartolomé de las Casas could straighten Mr Diaz out rather quickly.

    Diaz isn’t worth a tenth of the words you gave him. Save your energies for more productive pursuits.

  250. syonredux says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, but homos are still hanged. Or whatever.

    That Shi’ite Islam buys into the “transgender” fraud is another issue entirely.

    Hey, they still get WOKE-points for being on the right side of history when it comes to the “T” part of LGBTQ…..

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  251. syonredux says:
    @nebulafox

    Please don’t try to educate Nicky! His ignorance is always good for a chuckle.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  252. not nearly enough Girl’s Generation in this thread.

    steve posted about Blackpink a few years ago. that was good for a lol.

  253. Pericles says:
    @TheBoom

    They believe that the cover is the book.

    Though if you’re a standard beta career man, you might also get a lot more support in your subsequent quest to provide for your family. So the inside may work out too.

  254. Pericles says:
    @Jim Christian

    That’s an impressively long middle finger. Could this be the missing link to the Aye-Aye?

  255. Pericles says:
    @guest

    If she were making fun of her persecution paranoia, this would be uncommonly (for her) good humor.

    Yeah, the Jewish way, by insulting the goyim.

  256. @dfordoom

    95% of the women who claim to be bisexual these days are in fact entirely heterosexual.

    No way man, not even close. New studies are showing that not even self-proclaimed “heterosexual” women are truly heterosexual. Most women appear to be bisexual; the surveys are grossly underestimating women’s innate bisexuality, because they’re still afraid fo come out of the closet and admit it.

    https://www.psypost.org/2018/02/brain-scan-study-bisexual-heterosexual-women-equally-aroused-male-female-50707

  257. Pericles says:
    @Anon

    Margaret Cho was the first shot fired in this quiet war. She’s Asian, unfunny and … fat?! Quick, parade her on TV!

  258. nebulafox says:
    @syonredux

    Heh, well, I’m not really suited to be a troll: chalk it up to autism, I guess. I tried once with our resident pseudo-professional troll, Corvy, just for the hell of it (ever suspected that his obsession with Vox Day stems from… deeper feelings?) and got reasonably far. It was fun, but not fulfilling.

    I was among the commentators here who think the arguments prioritizing “pure stock” are ridiculous at best and that white nationalism is basically fetishizing and coddling mediocrity. We do/did exist in some numbers. But he basically takes these objections and translates them into somehow advocating that America would be vastly improved if we let in 700 million new citizens (something I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t advocate for whatever country he comes from), or accusing Anglo-Saxons of being untermenschen while decrying past WASP racialism without the slightest hint of irony. There are perfectly legitimate reasons to restrict immigration without getting into some mystical romanticism that ends up prioritizing Indiana meth-heads over Iranian nuclear physicists or Russian mathematicians or Chinese bio-engineers. Plus, that hyper-aggressive asshole shtick of his is tiring.

    (With that being said, I think our elites are basically making increased acceptance of white nationalism inevitable through their policies, so I have zero sympathy for them and their gentry class sock puppets in the media. “Ethnic politics for me, but not for thee” never, ever works in explicitly multiracial societies, not for the long haul.)

  259. TheBoom says:
    @atlantis_dweller

    Without knowledge of these studies, women all over the world still seem to know it.

    men seem to know it worldwide too.

    • Replies: @atlantis_dweller
  260. nebulafox says:
    @syonredux

    I’m not terribly familiar with Persian social norms from the pre-Islamic period beyond the basics of Zoroastrianism and the often messy dynamics of the various dynasties, but maybe they are like the Javanese and have a history of ladyboys from before the conversion to Islam? I can’t recall that they did, but if they did, that might explain things. Like any newcoming religion in a place with a deeply entrenched, ancient culture, Islam traditionally has had to meld itself to the ways of the locals, meaning the Thai-esque notion of “the third gender” survived in Java.

    For Indonesia’s part, that’s going to disappear soon. Ever since the 1990s, when globalization really took off and Suharto fell from power, Java’s new middle classes have been rapidly embracing a more orthodox, Middle-East inspired form Islam. (The New Order’s cynical courting of Islamic elements after 25+ years of suppressing them, often brutally, didn’t help matters.) It’s always been there to some extent (Darul Islam in the 50s, etc), but the mass dislocation of peasants from the villages to the cities means the communal, place-based context of the old village rituals are gone. They got to find a new identity. Saudi money, as always, is a noxious influence, but people get it wrong when they point to that as the main factor as to why Indonesia has gotten more conservative, not less, as it has grown richer: globalization and urbanization is.

    • Replies: @Anon
  261. @TheBoom

    Are you saying men result more attractive if their skin is smoother and fairer? I doubt it. A tanned skin is an indicator of “genetic good health”, as a certain breed of scholars, very fashionable nowadays, put it.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
    , @Jack D
  262. @AaronB

    I The awoke turn their back to the whole grievous-go-round and turn to the quest for meaning — unfortunately they are found only among one of the two sexes.

    I don’t agree that IQ-theory spporters are not sincere with respect to Chinese/Japanese/Korean IQ: it doesn’t take to meet with many of them to see that they are higher in what intelligence is exactly (computational and logical mental power). For that matter, a look at the electronics market would suffice.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  263. @Hennie

    Nah, man, here’s how it should go:

    After you date one of those Oriental girls, 3 hours later you’re horny again.

  264. Spangel says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Do you have a source for that chart?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  265. TheBoom says:
    @atlantis_dweller

    A tanned skin is not a sign of health in Eastern Asian culture. You will only see whites sunbathing. Asians avoid the sun. Lighter skin is high status. Darker skin low status

  266. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    Elisha Cook Jr.!

    https://bloggingbycinemalight.blogspot.com/2017/06/dont-make-scene-big-sleep.html

    The movie dialog doesn’t sound Phoenician, more Oriental…

    OPERATOR: Courtview Apartments.
    MARLOWE Office, this is Police Identification Bureau, Wallace speaking. You got a girl living there named Agnes Lowzier?
    OPERATOR: Nobody by that name here.
    MARLOWE Have you got a brunette with green eyes, kind of slanted… …either alone …or with a little guy, weighs about 115 pounds… …wears a gray hat and gray suit?
    OPERATOR: Sorry. Nothing like that.

  267. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox

    Happy to help:

    Ancient Iranian society had a tradition of polytheism and initiatory pederasty, which came into sharp conflict during the Achaemenid period. Iranian pederasty and its origins were debated even in ancient times – for example, Herodotus claimed they had learned it from the Greeks: “From the Greeks they have learned to lie with boys.”[1] However, Plutarch asserts that the Iranians used eunuch boys to that end long before contact between the cultures. [2][page needed]

    In either case, Plato claimed they saw fit to forbid it to the inhabitants of the lands they occupied, since “It does not suit the rulers that their subjects should think noble thoughts, nor that they should form the strong friendships and attachments which these activities, and in particular love, tend to produce.”[3]

    Sextus Empiricus writing in his “Outlines of Scepticism” (circa C.E 200) asserted that the laws of the Persians were tolerant of homosexual behaviour, and the men “indulge in intercourse with males” (1:152)[4]

    Around 250 BCE, during the Parthian Empire, the Zoroastrian text, the Vendidad, was written. It contains provisions that are part of sexual code promoting procreative sexuality that is interpreted to prohibit same-sex intercourse as a form of demon worship, and thus sinful. Ancient commentary on this passage suggests that those engaging in sodomy could be killed without permission from the Dastur. However, a strong homosexual tradition in Iran is attested to by Greek historians from the 5th century onward, and so the prohibition apparently had little effect on Iranian attitudes or sexual behavior outside the ranks of devout Zoroastrians in rural eastern Iran.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history_in_Iran

    As per usual, homosexuality is associated with political freedom, and persecuted by tyrants and “rural” fanatics.

  268. Jack D says:
    @Spangel

    Article here:

    http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/8/eaap9815

    I didn’t bother reading the whole thing but the big takeaway at the time it came out was that women’s desirability peaks the day that they reach the age of consent and it’s all downhill from there. While this might be true in the “which random stranger would you like to have sex with?” sense, I’m not sure that fully reflects people’s mate preferences – most couples are of similar age or the man is only a few years older. Online dating markets, which are often used for casual hookups, don’t tell the full story.

    • Replies: @Spangel
  269. Jack D says:
    @atlantis_dweller

    Your question is garbled, but fair skin was (and in most places still is) preferred by men for their women, not vice versa. This used to be the case in the West also, but in the 20th century tanned skin, rather than being associated with poor women forced to work outdoors in the fields, became associated with wealth – rich women could pursue outdoor sports such as tennis and golf and had the ability to afford to travel to sunny places in winter.

  270. Jack D says:
    @Sam Coulton

    You are reading way too much into these results. Black women clearly have a disadvantage in the dating market and have good reason to be bitter but white/Asian/Latina women all seem to be within spitting distance of each other. Your vehemence makes me suspect that you have your own bone to pick with white women.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  271. Spangel says:
    @Jack D

    It seems clear that women prefer men of similar age to them. This leaves the possibility that most couples are close in age solely because of the strength of women’s preferences.

    It seems odd though. I’m not getting the impression that many single men over 35 try to have long term relationships with women under 21. Maybe they all would if they could but seems like there is a real lack of effort if that’s the case.

    Would be interesting to see stats broken down for dating sites more clearly geared towards long term relationships like eharmony.

  272. @Jack D

    You are reading way too much into these results. Black women clearly have a disadvantage in the dating market and have good reason to be bitter but white/Asian/Latina women all seem to be within spitting distance of each other

    Hey dummy – look up the demographics of the USA. Asian women are 2.5% of America or 5-15% of the cities in that survey. If Asian women are exceeding white women in desirability that means Asian wome get way, way more advances than white women.

  273. @nebulafox

    Few people seem to know that the main beneficiaries of the China Opium trade were farmers and merchants from India, with the Brits mainly middlemen safeguarding trade routes which always existed. Until the 1990s all the richest and super rich families in India got their start from growing and selling opium to world markets facilitated by Pax Brittanica’s empire. Indians grew heaps of it, Chinese especially wanted it. Brits made it easier to transport safely, which made it more of a problem for addicts when it became cheaper and easy to get. The current blame game is like musical chairs.

  274. Jason Liu says:
    @Hail

    It isn’t. Asian women don’t care about their birth country’s geopolitics. You’re reaching for a tribal explanation when there’s a much simpler one.

    More likely that these two women assimilated into white liberal campus culture of raging about men and whites all day. Her article reads exactly like it was written by a college SJW. Anti-American rhetoric in Asia sounds quite different.

  275. Lagertha says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    yes…why are you so wacky? – usually, you, Reg, but others here, who think I am so dumb, call me out with being too wacko/sentimental. Ed is kinda’ a breath of fresh air in Europe – and, yes, he actually writes his songs. Kids love him (because his messages are all good/rational) so f*ck off! Why can’t you, more often, be attuned to the sublime and sweet? Sometimes, there are people who are good.

  276. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @atlantis_dweller

    I don’t agree that IQ-theory spporters are not sincere with respect to Chinese/Japanese/Korean IQ: it doesn’t take to meet with many of them to see that they are higher in what intelligence is exactly (computational and logical mental power). For that matter, a look at the electronics market would suffice.

    Yet the Japanese still buy a lot of high end test equipment from US vendors, much more so than the other way around. The Japanese built a few key pieces everyone wanted in certain niche apps but japanese T&M has never competed at the low or high end with Tek, HP/Agilent/Keysight, keithley, Fluke, et al. They never built CSMs or field intensity meters, to name two things recently discussed , and their general purpose stuff like scopes and counters are expensive and have few special advantages. On the low end, Chinese brands like Rigol are becoming dominant, but for high end test Tek and Keysight are riding high on the hog.

    The Japanese audio industry struggled for a decade to equal the MR-78 McIntosh FM tuner and nearly did, but none were as well built. Modafferi is the kind of guy the Japanese can’t produce, someone capable of thinking independently about a technical issue and going for a unique and clean solution on his own bat.

    http://archives.njit.edu/vol01/etd/1960s/1965/njit-etd1965-001/njit-etd1965-001.pdf

    The Japanese can by collective hard work and grinding make esoteric Western ideas work where the Westerners have themselves thrown in the towel, e.g, the Walter and oxygen torpedoes, Wankel rotary engine, et al; but they can’t do stuff like this, independently come up with new approaches and take them far enough to where they are feasible for production. Modafferi’s tuner, the McIntosh unity coupled amplifier circuit, the design and layout of the Collins 51S-1 or the IFR service monitor or Tek’s 1 GHz microchannel plate scopes all would never have come from Japan.

  277. Lagertha says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    yeah, I also get it that Ed chose a black actress for his video – this is sort of standard now, for singers/performers out of Scandinavia, UK, AUS, NZ. Singers know they must appeal to all races – this goes back about 2o years.

    Contemporary musicians know this is imperative. One of the ways they achieve diversity, is to make a hot video with POC. Ed is as red & white as me…so, I know he looks like no superstar…he does not look like Jim Morrison or Bruce. In fact, you name me a rock’n’roller/singer (no wigs/coloring of hair) who was a redhead who was a sex symbol from the 60’s-2000+’ ? I Challenge you! 😉

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  278. @JimDandy

    So true and such a pity. They lost me as a reader.

  279. @Desiderius

    The link was in comment 186

  280. Lagertha says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    You win! Will you ever get tired of winning? Although, realistically, Ed is better looking than Archie.

  281. TWS says:
    @Anonymous

    Single child families are an aberration.

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