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They Can’t Kill Us All: Ferguson, Baltimore, and a New Era in America’s Racial Justice Movement

Hardcover – November 15, 2016
by Wesley Lowery (Author)
4.0 out of 5 stars 55 customer reviews

LA Times winner for The Christopher Isherwood Prize for Autobiographical Prose
A New York Times bestseller
A New York Times Editors’ Choice

A Featured Title in The New York Times Book Review’s “Paperback Row”

A Bustle “17 Books About Race Every White Person Should Read”

“Essential reading.”–Junot Diaz

“Electric…so well reported, so plainly told and so evidently the work of a man who has not grown a callus on his heart.”–Dwight Garner, New York Times, “A Top Ten Book of 2016″

“I’d recommend everyone to read this book because it’s not just statistics, it’s not just the information, but it’s the connective tissue that shows the human story behind it.” — Trevor Noah, The Daily Show

A deeply reported book that brings alive the quest for justice in the deaths of Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, and Freddie Gray, offering both unparalleled insight into the reality of police violence in America and an intimate, moving portrait of those working to end it

Conducting hundreds of interviews during the course of over one year reporting on the ground, Washington Post writer Wesley Lowery traveled from Ferguson, Missouri, to Cleveland, Ohio; Charleston, South Carolina; and Baltimore, Maryland; and then back to Ferguson to uncover life inside the most heavily policed, if otherwise neglected, corners of America today.

In an effort to grasp the magnitude of the repose [sic] to Michael Brown’s death and understand the scale of the problem police violence represents, Lowery speaks to Brown’s family and the families of other victims other victims’ families as well as local activists. By posing the question, “What does the loss of any one life mean to the rest of the nation?” Lowery examines the cumulative effect of decades of racially biased policing in segregated neighborhoods with failing schools, crumbling infrastructure and too few jobs.

Studded with moments of joy, and tragedy, They Can’t Kill Us All offers a historically informed look at the standoff between the police and those they are sworn to protect, showing that civil unrest is just one tool of resistance in the broader struggle for justice. As Lowery brings vividly to life, the protests against police killings are also about the black community’s long history on the receiving end of perceived and actual acts of injustice and discrimination. They Can’t Kill Us All grapples with a persistent if also largely unexamined aspect of the otherwise transformative presidency of Barack Obama: the failure to deliver tangible security and opportunity to those Americans most in need of both.

This Wesley Lowery, National Reporter for the Washington Post, won a Pulitzer Prize last year. But he doesn’t seem all that bright.

Speaking of not being able to kill us all, here are recent FBI homicide totals:

FBI: US Homicides

2012: 14,827
2013: 14,319
2014: 14,249 (Ferguson/BLM 8/2014)
2015: 15,583 (+9.4% vs. 2014 or 1334 extra deaths)
2016: 17,250 (+21.0% vs. 2014 or 3001 extra deaths)

So, the last two years of the Obama Administration saw roughly 4,335 extra homicides vs 2014, more than all the blacks lynched in U.S. history. That’s not quite Killing Us All, but it’s a lot of incremental dead bodies in the wake of the American Establishment deciding in 2014 that what was really plaguing Black America was too much law and order.

Please note however that FBI homicide statistics online don’t always agree with each other. For example, one FBI document has 2013 homicides as 14,319, another as 14,196. There are reasons for this, such as people die of wounds in a later year. (Similarly, when Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain dropped dead about a half century after saving the Union on the first day of Gettysburg, he was officially declared to have died of his war wounds and the Civil War death toll was incremented by one.)

 
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  1. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    When ‘they’ retreated and stop ‘killing’ the blacks, black deaths went up.

    Some strange voodoo in the black community. I can’t figure it out.

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  2. Mr. Anon says:

    As Lowery brings vividly to life, the protests against police killings are also about the black community’s long history on the receiving end of perceived and actual acts of injustice and discrimination.

    Who will step up to end this scourge of perceived injustice and discrimination?

    And while we’re at it, can we discuss the perceived epidemic of alien abductions?

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    perceived... acts of injustice and discrimination
     
    IOW, he's got a gig that will never end as long as the dysfunction continues.
    , @Alec Leamas


    As Lowery brings vividly to life, the protests against police killings are also about the black community’s long history on the receiving end of perceived and actual acts of injustice and discrimination.

     

    Who will step up to end this scourge of perceived injustice and discrimination?

    And while we’re at it, can we discuss the perceived epidemic of alien abductions?

     

    Advocatus Diaboli: There is a concerted effort to shape the perceptions of blacks so that they see nearly everything as acts of injustice and oppression.
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    The Death Touch/ Quivering Palm Scene – The Men Who Stare At Goats

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  4. eah says:

    But he doesn’t seem all that bright.

    Smart enough to say what the media wants to hear and play on white guilt.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    white guilt
     
    Guilty people aren't that smug.

    His target audience is post-white (deracinated), not white.
    , @jack ryan
    That was great.

    Let's make fliers with graphics of both cases and hand them out at train stations.
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  5. Yan Shen says:

    The worst thing that white Americans could’ve possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire’s message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What’s been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they’re white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

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    • Replies: @L Woods
    We are seeing today their default behavior should they not be “brutalized.” Color me unmoved.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Be quiet.
    , @Kam Phlodius
    You are definitely in the "not too bright" category. But I guess you are here so others can make fun of you. So you do have a purpose in life.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    Not just in the Bay Area but also in uh Philadelphia.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/10/22/philly.school.asian.american.attacks/index.html
    , @Anonymous
    White Americans haven't brutalized blacks. You have it backwards. Just look at the crime statistics.
    , @bomag
    It is said that he without sin can cast the first stone; I see that Yan thinks it is him.

    The worst thing that white Americans could’ve possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries.
     
    Hyperbolize much?

    The good old days weren't all that good, but they weren't all that bad. Blacks came through to a pretty good standard of living and participation in culture; not a bad deal compared to the alternatives.

    Future conversation:

    "Hey, Yan; I see everyone on the planet is East Asian."

    Yan: "As it should be. I did the math, and this is the optimum result."

    "What happened to Whites"

    Yan: "Original sin from brutalizing innocent Blacks. They had to go."

    "What happened to Blacks?"

    Yan: "Ongoing sin from brutalizing Chinese shopkeepers. They had to go."
    , @Joe Stalin
    I was watching the ABC program about the Rodney King riots and was amused by the portrayal of the Koreans vis-a-vis African-Americans. It became obvious why when they showed some Black was in charge of the program. An Asian would have talked about the attacks from Blacks, but clearly you can't portray Blacks as victimizers in a program designed to make Blacks appear to be victims of white society.
    , @The Alarmist
    Yeah, because black folk were the only people in all of history to be enslaved, so they've "earned" the special dispenation to commit mayhem on the rest of us.

    News flash: First slaves in North America were indigenous, captives of other indiginous peoples. First slaves of white folk in North America were themselves white.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    The not-so-original sin is the way liberals, frequently white, keep black people dependent. Case in point: the young woman attending night school and working part-time. She had been on benefits as an unwed teen mother, but was trying to climb out. Her son had a health condition, and when she tried to get help for it, they told her they could not help her unless she quit her part-time job. They emphasized they could help her even MORE if she'd have another baby.

    And then there's the educational system, promoting fad after fad, instead of making kids MEMORIZE the alphabet and arithmetic tables, which worked well enough for pioneer and farm children in the 19th century. Often coached at home out of compendium books, they could at least keep household accounts and read the Bible and the almanac.
    , @SteveRogers42
    If you think this is/was "brutalizing", then I congratulate you on your ignorance.
    , @Chrisnonymous

    wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans
     
    You're still a crappy historian, but at least you're getting more honest.
    , @jack ryan
    Pathetic.

    You blame evil White racist people for Blacks robbing and assaulting Chinese merchants in the Bay Area.

    I note that the Korean merchants and cowardly, lying Chinese merchants behave differently toward the Black AA thugs, bullies, robbers.

    The Koreans pack guns and fight back.

    I bet Korean merchants voted for Trump.
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  6. Whitehall says:

    Sorry but I have grown layers of colluses around my heart.

    These calluses are the results of my initial bleeding heart syndrome from my early teenage years.

    But actually, not sorry.

    Such calluses are called “wisdom” and “experience.”

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    Each one teach one:

    EVERYTHING THEY TAUGHT YOU ABOUT RACE IS A LIE!
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  7. jon says:

    They Can’t Kill Us All

    But can you blame us for trying?

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    But can you blame us for trying?
     
    We're not trying; not even begun to try.

    Wait until most of those that are 'middle of the road', swing voters get on board.

    Then you'll see some trying...

    I'm watching Raisin in the Sun. 1961. Just had the part where the half dozen negros move into a white neighborhood. This was considered 'good' by lefty clowns back then; and still do. Rest of the neighborhood was planning to move....away.

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  8. John Carr says:

    It’s Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain and it was the second day. Obviously you enjoyed the Winterval. Seriously, all the best in the New Year and keep up the good work.

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    I always like an excuse to tag this scene:

    https://youtu.be/ZL-5uyp44WA
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  9. El Dato says:

    I thought this was actually a book about some African Country.

    Like this for example.

    When did US black communities become gated communities with an “Arbeit Macht Frei” kind of gate?

    Meanwhile, in Sweden: Swedish police find ‘no direct links’ after Malmo’s 4th gang rape in 2 months

    No direct links, I tell you.

    While Malmo struggles to cope with the wave of sexual assaults, a Swedish court has courted controversy with its recent decision to release three men accused of raping a woman in the Stockholm suburb of Fittja in 2016.

    They probably didn’t look like Assange, who has RAPE written all over his face.

    (RT is a bit confused as usual, apparently it was 5 men. Initially it was “20 Muslim Immigrants” doing the deed and filming, I wonder how this gets reduced to 3-5 men of delicately unstated ethnic origin?)

    Maybe the solution is to import more Italians as intermediaries. They can generally deal with problems once luparas have been handed out.

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  10. Si se puede.

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  11. fnn says:

    I thought the implied lesson of Charlottesville was that the “klan” and “nazis” were invading Baltimore and Chicago (in conspiracy with the police?) and killing all those black people. Why else did the local and state govt have to collude with the Antifa to prevent them from giving speeches in a park?

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  12. AndrewR says:

    Justice will not have been done until a young black man is finally allowed to rob a convenience store, walk down the middle of the street then kill any cops who try to stop him.

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    Yep.

    Chris Rock should add a special "Do not do as michael Brown in Ferguson Mo did" in Chris' immortal:

    "How not to get your as* beat by the police".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
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  13. I am always surprised by how murder rates can increase so much. Reason tells me that only a certain percentage of people are willing to murder, and are put in a position where they act on it. Those seem to be the same people more likely to be murdered. That would mean that, eventually, the murder rate would stabilize because the people inclined to murder are either killed or locked up. But it doesn’t necessarily happen. If we could identify what it is that keeps the murder rate low under normal circumstances, it would be helpful.

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    . . . eventually, the murder rate would stabilize because the people inclined to murder are either killed or locked up. But it doesn’t necessarily happen

    Imagine yourself alone in a room with a beautiful young woman. Do you rape her? In a population, there are a percentage of men who would. Statistics indicate that there are groups, identifiable by race, with larger populations of men who would. The murder rate doesn't stabilize because some groups are more prone to violence, and those groups less prone to violence want desperately to believe that there are not group differences, or that any differences can be explained by material rather than moral poverty. Some call this the religion of Equalism.

    "They can't kill us all", and unfortunately we can't imprison them all. Perhaps deportation, or isolation.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Call off your old, tired "Reason"...it's merely a white man's social construct.
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  14. Art Deco says:

    1. He’s a verbalizer / storyteller bad at math.

    2. What Thomas Sowell said: the Anointed are concerned with striking poses, not with actual results.

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    Please note however that FBI homicide statistics online don’t always agree with each other.

    This.

    I started looking at arrest data last year, as some cities are exposing their data via web services. I tried to figure out the closure rate for homicides in Baltimore. The city claims something like 70% are closed. The best I could estimate was that 25% are closed. Now, it does appear that the police often pick up a suspected killer on unrelated charges. Presumably they sweat the guy or get his DNA so they can make the murder case.

    The reason for the disparity is the way the FBI requires reporting agencies to count clearances. They count up all the people arrested for murder in the year, regardless of when or where the murder happened, then divide by the number of murders. They also require counting a murder as cleared if the cops determine the killer is dead or unavailable to them. This opens the door for a lot of shenanigans.

    There are a lot of killers walking the streets of Baltimore.

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  16. “They Can’t Kill Us All “? Wesley, who are “they”? Black people are killing each other. Shouldn’t your title read “We Can’t Kill Us All “?

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    "Black people are killing each other. Shouldn’t your title read 'We Can’t Kill Us All '?"

    "We Are The Ones We Have Been Waiting For [To Stop Killing Us]."
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  17. surly says:

    Somewhat interestingly, NYC homicides are at record lows, but Detroit is at a several decade low for homicides as well.

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    Difference was Detroit's homicides dropped because the population fled in droves, in NYC the population rebounded as crime fell.
    , @biz

    Detroit is at a several decade low for homicides as well
     
    Do you mean number of homicides or homicide rate? Because Detroit is at basically an all-time low for population.
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  18. L Woods says:
    @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    We are seeing today their default behavior should they not be “brutalized.” Color me unmoved.

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  19. @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    Be quiet.

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  20. @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    You are definitely in the “not too bright” category. But I guess you are here so others can make fun of you. So you do have a purpose in life.

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  21. bomag says:
    @Mr. Anon

    As Lowery brings vividly to life, the protests against police killings are also about the black community’s long history on the receiving end of perceived and actual acts of injustice and discrimination.
     
    Who will step up to end this scourge of perceived injustice and discrimination?

    And while we're at it, can we discuss the perceived epidemic of alien abductions?

    perceived… acts of injustice and discrimination

    IOW, he’s got a gig that will never end as long as the dysfunction continues.

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  22. @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

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  23. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Dude looks like Drake.

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  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    White Americans haven’t brutalized blacks. You have it backwards. Just look at the crime statistics.

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  25. Luke Lea says:

    Reward infantile behavior and what do you get? #wherearetheadults

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  26. Luke Lea says:

    Let me answer my own question: Reward infantile behavior and what you get is infantilism.

    Next question: what do you call parents who spoil their children?

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  27. Art Deco says:

    So, the last two years of the Obama Administration saw roughly 4,335 extra homicides vs 2014, more than all the blacks lynched in U.S. history.

    I think you mean more than all the blacks lynched between 1881 and 1960. The Tuskeegee / UNKC dataset does not include anything prior to 1882.

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  28. That same Chamberlain helped kill God from the University in his state after the war. The Great Man and General Lee should have pressed on that first night of Gettysburg.

    I despise the Tyrant Lincoln more than Obama.

    Soon McCain will join Ted Kennedy, Sherman and Lincoln in the perpetual ring of fire. Just desserts for their Earthly Evil.

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    Who is "The Great Man"?
    , @Hibernian
    "That same Chamberlain helped kill God from the University in his state after the war."

    Have a citation for this?
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  29. bomag says:
    @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    It is said that he without sin can cast the first stone; I see that Yan thinks it is him.

    The worst thing that white Americans could’ve possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries.

    Hyperbolize much?

    The good old days weren’t all that good, but they weren’t all that bad. Blacks came through to a pretty good standard of living and participation in culture; not a bad deal compared to the alternatives.

    Future conversation:

    “Hey, Yan; I see everyone on the planet is East Asian.”

    Yan: “As it should be. I did the math, and this is the optimum result.”

    “What happened to Whites”

    Yan: “Original sin from brutalizing innocent Blacks. They had to go.”

    “What happened to Blacks?”

    Yan: “Ongoing sin from brutalizing Chinese shopkeepers. They had to go.”

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    The good old days weren’t all that good, but they weren’t all that bad. Blacks came through to a pretty good standard of living and participation in culture; not a bad deal compared to the alternatives.
     
    It is worth remembering that the Russian Empire introduced 25 year long conscription terms in 1793; prior to that they didn't bother to have an end to serfs military service. Being a black slave in the United States is relatively low on the oppress-o-meter. It only gets ranked high because it gives Yankees a chance to ... on Dixie.
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  30. @Mr. Anon

    As Lowery brings vividly to life, the protests against police killings are also about the black community’s long history on the receiving end of perceived and actual acts of injustice and discrimination.
     
    Who will step up to end this scourge of perceived injustice and discrimination?

    And while we're at it, can we discuss the perceived epidemic of alien abductions?

    As Lowery brings vividly to life, the protests against police killings are also about the black community’s long history on the receiving end of perceived and actual acts of injustice and discrimination.

    Who will step up to end this scourge of perceived injustice and discrimination?

    And while we’re at it, can we discuss the perceived epidemic of alien abductions?

    Advocatus Diaboli: There is a concerted effort to shape the perceptions of blacks so that they see nearly everything as acts of injustice and oppression.

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  31. Olorin says:

    Host, surely you realize it doesn’t count as “killing” in the eyes of blacks when blacks kill other blacks.

    Only when whites do.

    Or anyone socially and legally charged with guarding the perimeter of Law, especially where that is under systematic attack by those deploying our National Bioweapon to that end for their own reasons.

    As for blacks themselves, mass-slaughtering each other while making loud noises about it in perpetuity is merely a form of existentially extreme rap battle.

    Sure, it often spirals into death sport (often televised for everyone’s enjoyment or mystification or clickbait horror via “news” and “social” “media”). But the whole thing is a grand Cultural Tradition for our protected class of Noble Savages, driven for half a century now to this spectacle of self-destruction for media consumption and profits.

    If blacks like Wesley Lowery and other media darlings du jour were really concerned about how many of them are dying, they’d look at how many of them are killing each other.

    They have no interest in this. We know that. They don’t see each other as people. They are walking ghosts, no agency, no volition. A ground being acted upon by THEY.

    And in their lack of agency, in which they mass-slaughter one another but cannot own the action, they fall to the sad temptation–which the infotainment industry is happy to foster–of being minstrels of chaos and self-destruction.

    The whole savage, absurd, nonsensical mess of black violence to blacks, both lived and narrated–including Lowery’s exudations–makes a lot more sense when viewed through the lens of the “lamentation song” tradition. Rather than trying to torture it into something like “flawed reason” or “misapplied statistics” or whatever.

    Ritual bitching is a feature of many cultures. Some people, like Sumerians, Jews, and Africans, are great ritual bitchers. Take city-lamentation out of the literature of Sumeria, and you don’t have much left besides accounting and land tracts/squabbles…and after all, Abraham left Ur (possibly to take his own lamentation road show–”Oy Vey, Honey, We’re Chosen!”–to a new audience).

    Others, like northern Sea People, aren’t very good at the lamentation tradition because as Hillaire Belloc put it, “The sea is the teacher of truth, and the salt of reality.” When you’re busy solving practical problems, and out exploring the unknown to create new places to have practical problems you can solve, there’s not a lot of time left for ritual bitching. A lament here or there, sure. But the long episodes of wailing about fate are left to Kundry, or The Marschallin, or Kullervo.

    But we do like a good sea story. Blacks, like Jews, are always looking for an audience that will believe their tales of how every hour of every day of their lives is a battle against the Kraken. Some of us even start to believe their fantasy that WE are the Kraken.

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    "northern Sea People, aren’t very good at the lamentation tradition"

    Oviously, you are unfamiliar with the Anglo-Saxon elegies:

    https://anglosaxonpoetry.camden.rutgers.edu/the-seafarer/

    https://anglosaxonpoetry.camden.rutgers.edu/the-wanderer/

    https://anglosaxonpoetry.camden.rutgers.edu/the-wifes-lament/
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  32. Luke Lea says:

    We need to stop treating African Americans like children in our public discourse, including on campus. Isn’t this in effect what we are doing? Isn’t this the very definition of privilege, namely, letting people get away with behavior that no one else would be allowed to get away with (like rioting, or throwing temper tantrums)? Likewise, the concept of safe spaces, which is tantamount to coddling.

    We need a better vocabulary with better analogies if we are going to get a handle on this dysfunctional nonsense that is now running wild and which does no one any favors.

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    Sure in a sane society we would treat blacks like adults instead of children. Unfortunately, thanks to the Original Sin which all posterity must now bear till the end of time, we live in an insane society in which we fawn endlessly over men like Ta Nehisi Coates and in which endlessly excuses are made for black dysfunction.

    Thanks 200-300 years of white racism and violence in North America and Africa!

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  33. @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    I was watching the ABC program about the Rodney King riots and was amused by the portrayal of the Koreans vis-a-vis African-Americans. It became obvious why when they showed some Black was in charge of the program. An Asian would have talked about the attacks from Blacks, but clearly you can’t portray Blacks as victimizers in a program designed to make Blacks appear to be victims of white society.

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  34. @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    Yeah, because black folk were the only people in all of history to be enslaved, so they’ve “earned” the special dispenation to commit mayhem on the rest of us.

    News flash: First slaves in North America were indigenous, captives of other indiginous peoples. First slaves of white folk in North America were themselves white.

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    James LaFond has done some interesting work compiling the histories of white indentured servants in the Colonies.

    http://jameslafond.com/article.php?id=9691

    http://jameslafond.com/article.php?id=9689

    http://jameslafond.com/article.php?id=9688
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  35. I have an interview to add, sort of..

    I spoke with a member of the PG county Police who were called to Baltimore at the time of the riot. He said the first day when Mayor Blake was giving the rioters “space to destroy” they stood in formation in riot gear while the rioters attacked them. He showed me the scars on his arm where a rioter slashed at him with a knife.

    The second day his commander said keep your visor on. Don’t let the cameras see your face and go to work. He said they beat the protesters ass.Riots ended that day.

    I’d be willing to bet he the author had no interest in talking to an officer responding to the riots, or one of the cops prosecuted in the deaths of Freddie Gray or Darren Wilson to get their perspective. Mainstream journalism in practice is about uncovering stories that fit the narrative. The Washington Post is happy to shine the light on the plight of those who vote like them. Not so much for those Trump supporting cops.

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    "The second day his commander said keep your visor on. Don’t let the cameras see your face and go to work. He said they beat the protesters ass.Riots ended that day."


    I respond:

    Very interesting.

    I recommend everyone try to remain anonymous in such riot situations - another alternative is to hide, run away and let the BlackLiesMatter, Antifa riot, take control of the street, university etc.

    If you are in a pro Trump rally, or Confederate monument protector rally - try to get in a group where everyone looks the same and the visuals are good or at least you aren't dressed up to be Hollywood scripted characters of the bad guy racists.

    White bikers have done the best in street contests - bikers look tough but not alien bad guys.

    Have head gear that protects your face and conceals your identity.

    If someone in your group is arrested for fighting back against Antifa BlackLiesMatter - don't let the guy go down, swear under oath it was someone else in the group that was fighting, hell the Central Park gang rapists of the jogger got off when they authorities Sharpton/Morganthal pinned the crime on one Black guy who was already doing long time for some other crime (they bought him off).

    We have to stop being so GD honest, fair and always losing.

    Also, so many Antifa, BlackLiesMatter criminals pose as journalists - just as the worst Communists in Central America during the 70s and 80s posed as Catholic Priests. Our side in that conflict decided that the only good Communist fake Catholic Priest was a dead one.

    Long since time to turn the cops or our street biker warriors against the fake news lying press.
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  36. Luke Lea says:

    I’m wondering. What does it mean to accuse someone of white privilege? Is it asking for permission to behave irresponsibly? Or is it rather a way of demanding that he not treat me (or judge me) like an adult? Is an accusation more like a request or a demand? Imperative or interrogative? I would say it is an imperative with a fuck you attached. In other words, infantile behavior.

    But since when have infants nonplussed adults? (Only when they are someone else’s children.)

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  37. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The preferred nomenclature is...
    That same Chamberlain helped kill God from the University in his state after the war. The Great Man and General Lee should have pressed on that first night of Gettysburg.

    I despise the Tyrant Lincoln more than Obama.

    Soon McCain will join Ted Kennedy, Sherman and Lincoln in the perpetual ring of fire. Just desserts for their Earthly Evil.

    Who is “The Great Man”?

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    General Lee. Sorry didn't proofread before hitting send.
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  38. Luke Lea says:

    Back to white privilege in an academic setting. Is affirmative action the source of the problem? The unreasonableness of insisting upon academic standards? I’ve yet to hear an Asian resort to that phrase (even though they do complain of discrimination in admissions).

    I think Heather MacDonald doesn’t quite get it right: https://goo.gl/ok5ByT

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  39. Neuday says:
    @william munny
    I am always surprised by how murder rates can increase so much. Reason tells me that only a certain percentage of people are willing to murder, and are put in a position where they act on it. Those seem to be the same people more likely to be murdered. That would mean that, eventually, the murder rate would stabilize because the people inclined to murder are either killed or locked up. But it doesn't necessarily happen. If we could identify what it is that keeps the murder rate low under normal circumstances, it would be helpful.

    . . . eventually, the murder rate would stabilize because the people inclined to murder are either killed or locked up. But it doesn’t necessarily happen

    Imagine yourself alone in a room with a beautiful young woman. Do you rape her? In a population, there are a percentage of men who would. Statistics indicate that there are groups, identifiable by race, with larger populations of men who would. The murder rate doesn’t stabilize because some groups are more prone to violence, and those groups less prone to violence want desperately to believe that there are not group differences, or that any differences can be explained by material rather than moral poverty. Some call this the religion of Equalism.

    “They can’t kill us all”, and unfortunately we can’t imprison them all. Perhaps deportation, or isolation.

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  40. Hibernian says:
    @The preferred nomenclature is...
    That same Chamberlain helped kill God from the University in his state after the war. The Great Man and General Lee should have pressed on that first night of Gettysburg.

    I despise the Tyrant Lincoln more than Obama.

    Soon McCain will join Ted Kennedy, Sherman and Lincoln in the perpetual ring of fire. Just desserts for their Earthly Evil.

    “That same Chamberlain helped kill God from the University in his state after the war.”

    Have a citation for this?

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  41. I posted this in the Seinfeld thread, but it’s more topical here:

    Wasn’t Eric Garner the guy who himself died of a heart attack while being “choked” in one of BLM’s major causes celebre that was less of a fiasco than usual? Curious that his daughter dies of a heart attack at age 27.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/30/us/erica-garner-eric-death/index.html

    “On August 1, Garner’s death was found by the New York City Medical Examiner’s Office to be a result of “compression of neck (choke hold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police”.[50][51][52] Asthma, heart disease, and obesity were cited as contributing factors.[53] There was no damage to the windpipe or neckbones.[54] The medical examiner ruled Garner’s death a homicide. According to the medical examiner’s definition, a homicide is a death caused by the intentional actions of another person or persons, which is not necessarily an intentional death or a criminal death.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner#Investigation

    Sounds to me like the ME ruled homicide because local politics demanded it, but he really died of a heart attack.

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    The man was morbidly obese and diabetic. The choke hold was effected in the course of an ordinary police tackle and was in place for all of nine seconds. One of the depressing things about what happened in Baltimore and Staten Island was how readily the coroner's office was suborned.
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  42. I read ‘The Killer Angels’ in middle school. Later with my family I visited that hill they charged up, Little Round Top… Joshua(!) Chamberlain was a tough m.f.

    There’s another figure in excess of black lynchings… white deaths in the Civil War.

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  43. @bomag
    It is said that he without sin can cast the first stone; I see that Yan thinks it is him.

    The worst thing that white Americans could’ve possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries.
     
    Hyperbolize much?

    The good old days weren't all that good, but they weren't all that bad. Blacks came through to a pretty good standard of living and participation in culture; not a bad deal compared to the alternatives.

    Future conversation:

    "Hey, Yan; I see everyone on the planet is East Asian."

    Yan: "As it should be. I did the math, and this is the optimum result."

    "What happened to Whites"

    Yan: "Original sin from brutalizing innocent Blacks. They had to go."

    "What happened to Blacks?"

    Yan: "Ongoing sin from brutalizing Chinese shopkeepers. They had to go."

    The good old days weren’t all that good, but they weren’t all that bad. Blacks came through to a pretty good standard of living and participation in culture; not a bad deal compared to the alternatives.

    It is worth remembering that the Russian Empire introduced 25 year long conscription terms in 1793; prior to that they didn’t bother to have an end to serfs military service. Being a black slave in the United States is relatively low on the oppress-o-meter. It only gets ranked high because it gives Yankees a chance to … on Dixie.

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  44. @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    The not-so-original sin is the way liberals, frequently white, keep black people dependent. Case in point: the young woman attending night school and working part-time. She had been on benefits as an unwed teen mother, but was trying to climb out. Her son had a health condition, and when she tried to get help for it, they told her they could not help her unless she quit her part-time job. They emphasized they could help her even MORE if she’d have another baby.

    And then there’s the educational system, promoting fad after fad, instead of making kids MEMORIZE the alphabet and arithmetic tables, which worked well enough for pioneer and farm children in the 19th century. Often coached at home out of compendium books, they could at least keep household accounts and read the Bible and the almanac.

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    Boom, there goes the dynamite.

    In the 1970's, a black single mother with 3 kids could get an essentially free living space, government health insurance and $25-50/month in cash and food stamps per member of household. This at a time in which the average non-union american worker may have brought home an equivalent amount of money after taxes, but would have had to pay for those living expenses from their own pocket (remember, minimum wage wasn't set at $1.25 until, IIRC, 1973. A $5/hr job in the 70's would have given the same young woman a $100/week take home check, post-taxes/insurance deduction. $400/month, minus transportation, rent, utilities and food leaves her with spare change.)

    For an uneducated teenaged girl with an inflated sense of entitlement and the standard, "You're not the boss of me!", rebel attitude that seems to exist in every girl as soon as she becomes a "woman", sitting on her ass and receiving free money for doing someone, ahem, something that she wanted to do anyway makes perfect sense. Add in a few feminists to shore up the, "You deserve this, the white man hates you so get in his pockets, you don't need a man, the first guy abandoned you so why trust another one...", mindset, and you sow chaos. Those women raised girls who mistrusted men and boys who hated themselves (and girls who hated women and wanted to become men, and boys who hated women and modeled themselves after the few visible male role models in their working man-free environment, and boys who were forced to become men too quickly necause their teenaged mothers weren't up to par, and boys who wanted to become women because the women in their environment had all of the visible money and power, but that's a story for another time.)
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  45. @Olorin
    Host, surely you realize it doesn't count as "killing" in the eyes of blacks when blacks kill other blacks.

    Only when whites do.

    Or anyone socially and legally charged with guarding the perimeter of Law, especially where that is under systematic attack by those deploying our National Bioweapon to that end for their own reasons.

    As for blacks themselves, mass-slaughtering each other while making loud noises about it in perpetuity is merely a form of existentially extreme rap battle.

    Sure, it often spirals into death sport (often televised for everyone's enjoyment or mystification or clickbait horror via "news" and "social" "media"). But the whole thing is a grand Cultural Tradition for our protected class of Noble Savages, driven for half a century now to this spectacle of self-destruction for media consumption and profits.

    If blacks like Wesley Lowery and other media darlings du jour were really concerned about how many of them are dying, they'd look at how many of them are killing each other.

    They have no interest in this. We know that. They don't see each other as people. They are walking ghosts, no agency, no volition. A ground being acted upon by THEY.

    And in their lack of agency, in which they mass-slaughter one another but cannot own the action, they fall to the sad temptation--which the infotainment industry is happy to foster--of being minstrels of chaos and self-destruction.

    The whole savage, absurd, nonsensical mess of black violence to blacks, both lived and narrated--including Lowery's exudations--makes a lot more sense when viewed through the lens of the "lamentation song" tradition. Rather than trying to torture it into something like "flawed reason" or "misapplied statistics" or whatever.

    Ritual bitching is a feature of many cultures. Some people, like Sumerians, Jews, and Africans, are great ritual bitchers. Take city-lamentation out of the literature of Sumeria, and you don't have much left besides accounting and land tracts/squabbles...and after all, Abraham left Ur (possibly to take his own lamentation road show--"Oy Vey, Honey, We're Chosen!"--to a new audience).

    Others, like northern Sea People, aren't very good at the lamentation tradition because as Hillaire Belloc put it, "The sea is the teacher of truth, and the salt of reality." When you're busy solving practical problems, and out exploring the unknown to create new places to have practical problems you can solve, there's not a lot of time left for ritual bitching. A lament here or there, sure. But the long episodes of wailing about fate are left to Kundry, or The Marschallin, or Kullervo.

    But we do like a good sea story. Blacks, like Jews, are always looking for an audience that will believe their tales of how every hour of every day of their lives is a battle against the Kraken. Some of us even start to believe their fantasy that WE are the Kraken.

    “northern Sea People, aren’t very good at the lamentation tradition”

    Oviously, you are unfamiliar with the Anglo-Saxon elegies:

    https://anglosaxonpoetry.camden.rutgers.edu/the-seafarer/

    https://anglosaxonpoetry.camden.rutgers.edu/the-wanderer/

    https://anglosaxonpoetry.camden.rutgers.edu/the-wifes-lament/

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    In fact am familiar, and in AS.

    Point was that we have moved on from that mindset.

    Blacks and Jews have not. Or anyway, not so you can tell in the past half century of the ascendancy of their myths via broadcast and news media.

    Our literatures for the past 500 years or so have been of curiosity, innovation, exploration, building, and evolving. Of seeking to understand the true will of the "Most High," and trusting that life can be better if we strive with that rather than against it, struggling to improve ourselves in the process.

    The Christian part of "The Seafarer" in the closing lines appears to be a gloss on a much older song. As part of The Exeter Book (10th-11th centuries) we would expect this. And anytime you write down these oral forms, things are added and lost.

    The Christian closing lines of "The Seafarer" always interested me in that they refer only to the Great Father, the deity of northern Sea People "who bids the mighty ocean deep its own appointed courses keep." That suggests a more chthonic connection between scribe and singer, one that the Christian invading cult had not yet succeeded in severing, while displacing The Father from his family in favor of civil servants of a Roman administrative religion headquartered far away. The cult whose prophet demands you abandon your genetic family for him and call strangers "father" and "sister" and "mother" and "brother."

    Compare this steadfast focus on the Great Father to the Anglican Book of Common Prayer, in which all prayers to The Father have the son tacked on at the endparts, like a donkey's tail at a child's party.

    In matters of faith, some of us never did accept the pregnant virgin, impregnating pigeon, and genius magical martyr son. That effort to anthropomorphize and magick-up The Father lessens him...and inevitably leads to the worship of sluts, trannies, and numales, whose self-asserted magicks are not required to assess matters of outcome or practicality. Still, a god that looks personally comforting is probably all that most of humanity is capable of, in any era.

    For some of us, our prime comfort is that we never can or will know The Father's true countenance, even as we try to work in line with natural law, particularly where things like deepwater and weather are concerned. The mariners and science-fiction-writing shipbuilders who raised and taught me were partial to various strands of Buddhism, which deftly manages the "Great Father" psychology without fetishising an actual human.

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  46. J.Ross says: • Website

    Si Se Puede.

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  47. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Note to iSteve:

    I believe that should read JOSHUA Lawrence Chamberlain.

    Point taken nevertheless.

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  48. JimB says:

    “This Wesley Lowery, National Reporter for the Washington Post, won a Pulitzer Prize last year. But he doesn’t seem all that bright.“

    His claim to fame is having been arrested while covering the Ferguson riots. No bias, eh?

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  49. @surly
    Somewhat interestingly, NYC homicides are at record lows, but Detroit is at a several decade low for homicides as well.

    Difference was Detroit’s homicides dropped because the population fled in droves, in NYC the population rebounded as crime fell.

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  50. Whiskey says: • Website

    To be Nietschian, this is all about power. Blacks have it, and White men have none. Because Women, and especially White women, surrender to whatever group of men swaggers about and claims public spaces. No different than episode of the Dog Whisperer.

    Lowery is just claiming public space. Its an expression of power, nothing more or less. ANY aspect of morality, properness, justice, or anything along those lines is nonsense and a distraction from POWER. Either your ethnic group is putting the boot in or it gets the boot put in on YOU by other groups.

    ITS POWER PURE AND SIMPLE. Its all it ever was, and ever will be.

    Given that Harvard’s class of 2021 is now 51% non-White, and most of it Black, I can easily foresee when White men have no legal rights, established by various court rulings and administrative state rulings, and all our rulers look like Oprah or Obama. It won’t be any different in Sweden either, which has zero colonial history, or Finland. Those places especially are vulnerable to rule by Non-Whites as their women prefer poverty, violence, and sexy domination to running water and electricity and food that is safe to eat. Its tingles all the way down.

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  51. Kylie says:
    @Twodees Partain
    "They Can’t Kill Us All "? Wesley, who are "they"? Black people are killing each other. Shouldn't your title read "We Can’t Kill Us All "?

    “Black people are killing each other. Shouldn’t your title read ‘We Can’t Kill Us All ‘?”

    “We Are The Ones We Have Been Waiting For [To Stop Killing Us].”

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  52. MEH 0910 says:

    The ‘Double Punishment’ For Black Undocumented Immigrants

    Although only 7 percent of non-citizens in the U.S. are black, they make up 20 percent of those facing deportation on criminal grounds.

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  53. Art Deco says:
    @Uilleam Yr Alban
    I posted this in the Seinfeld thread, but it's more topical here:

    Wasn’t Eric Garner the guy who himself died of a heart attack while being “choked” in one of BLM’s major causes celebre that was less of a fiasco than usual? Curious that his daughter dies of a heart attack at age 27.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/30/us/erica-garner-eric-death/index.html

    “On August 1, Garner’s death was found by the New York City Medical Examiner’s Office to be a result of “compression of neck (choke hold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police”.[50][51][52] Asthma, heart disease, and obesity were cited as contributing factors.[53] There was no damage to the windpipe or neckbones.[54] The medical examiner ruled Garner’s death a homicide. According to the medical examiner’s definition, a homicide is a death caused by the intentional actions of another person or persons, which is not necessarily an intentional death or a criminal death.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner#Investigation

    Sounds to me like the ME ruled homicide because local politics demanded it, but he really died of a heart attack.

    The man was morbidly obese and diabetic. The choke hold was effected in the course of an ordinary police tackle and was in place for all of nine seconds. One of the depressing things about what happened in Baltimore and Staten Island was how readily the coroner’s office was suborned.

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    The fact that he famously said "I can't breathe" after the cop subdued him with the chokehold is a pretty good clue that he wasn't strangled to death by a police officer.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Plus, I never saw any photo that looked like a "choke hold" (lateral-vascular neck restraint) was applied. Every picture I saw looked like just basic head-and-neck control, which is how takedowns are safely accomplished in every high-school wrestling match.
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  54. Yan Shen says:
    @Luke Lea
    We need to stop treating African Americans like children in our public discourse, including on campus. Isn't this in effect what we are doing? Isn't this the very definition of privilege, namely, letting people get away with behavior that no one else would be allowed to get away with (like rioting, or throwing temper tantrums)? Likewise, the concept of safe spaces, which is tantamount to coddling.

    We need a better vocabulary with better analogies if we are going to get a handle on this dysfunctional nonsense that is now running wild and which does no one any favors.

    Sure in a sane society we would treat blacks like adults instead of children. Unfortunately, thanks to the Original Sin which all posterity must now bear till the end of time, we live in an insane society in which we fawn endlessly over men like Ta Nehisi Coates and in which endlessly excuses are made for black dysfunction.

    Thanks 200-300 years of white racism and violence in North America and Africa!

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  55. Svigor says:

    But he doesn’t seem all that bright.

    Is there already a famous author named Wes Lowery? ‘Cause that would be a legitimate excuse for inflicting “Wesley Lowery” on the public. Otherwise there doesn’t seem to be a good reason; it sorta does the opposite of roll off the tongue.

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  56. @Anonymous
    Who is "The Great Man"?

    General Lee. Sorry didn’t proofread before hitting send.

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  57. @John Carr
    It's Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain and it was the second day. Obviously you enjoyed the Winterval. Seriously, all the best in the New Year and keep up the good work.

    I always like an excuse to tag this scene:

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  58. Svigor says:

    The worst thing that white Americans could’ve possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire’s message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    Like when China genocided the Dzungars?

    To be Nietschian, this is all about power. Blacks have it, and White men have none. Because Women, and especially White women, surrender to whatever group of men swaggers about and claims public spaces. No different than episode of the Dog Whisperer.

    Except they don’t, and blacks and whites marry and cohabit at rates much lower than parity.

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  59. @william munny
    I am always surprised by how murder rates can increase so much. Reason tells me that only a certain percentage of people are willing to murder, and are put in a position where they act on it. Those seem to be the same people more likely to be murdered. That would mean that, eventually, the murder rate would stabilize because the people inclined to murder are either killed or locked up. But it doesn't necessarily happen. If we could identify what it is that keeps the murder rate low under normal circumstances, it would be helpful.

    Call off your old, tired “Reason”…it’s merely a white man’s social construct.

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  60. JerryC says:
    @Art Deco
    The man was morbidly obese and diabetic. The choke hold was effected in the course of an ordinary police tackle and was in place for all of nine seconds. One of the depressing things about what happened in Baltimore and Staten Island was how readily the coroner's office was suborned.

    The fact that he famously said “I can’t breathe” after the cop subdued him with the chokehold is a pretty good clue that he wasn’t strangled to death by a police officer.

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  61. @The Alarmist
    Yeah, because black folk were the only people in all of history to be enslaved, so they've "earned" the special dispenation to commit mayhem on the rest of us.

    News flash: First slaves in North America were indigenous, captives of other indiginous peoples. First slaves of white folk in North America were themselves white.

    James LaFond has done some interesting work compiling the histories of white indentured servants in the Colonies.

    http://jameslafond.com/article.php?id=9691

    http://jameslafond.com/article.php?id=9689

    http://jameslafond.com/article.php?id=9688

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  62. @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    If you think this is/was “brutalizing”, then I congratulate you on your ignorance.

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  63. @Art Deco
    The man was morbidly obese and diabetic. The choke hold was effected in the course of an ordinary police tackle and was in place for all of nine seconds. One of the depressing things about what happened in Baltimore and Staten Island was how readily the coroner's office was suborned.

    Plus, I never saw any photo that looked like a “choke hold” (lateral-vascular neck restraint) was applied. Every picture I saw looked like just basic head-and-neck control, which is how takedowns are safely accomplished in every high-school wrestling match.

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  64. Jake says:

    “(Similarly, when Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain dropped dead about a half century after saving the Union on the first day of Gettysburg, he was officially declared to have died of his war wounds and the Civil War death toll was incremented by one.)”

    He died to save the Union, which is blessing us with all this that now surrounds us?

    He is more to be damned that pitied.

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  65. Michael Shaara’s Killer Angels Afterword:

    “In 1876, elected President of Bowdoin College, where he…, de-emphasizing religion, and becomes involved in student demonstrations…”

    “Dies of his wounds, June 1914, at the age of eight-three.”

    Furthermore, if Lincoln wouldn’t have caused a million deaths (soldiers and Southern women and children) in the War of Northern Aggression and just let the South go peaceably like the South wanted to do, Mr. Sailer’s current post would be moot.

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  66. gunner29 says:
    @jon

    They Can’t Kill Us All
     
    But can you blame us for trying?

    But can you blame us for trying?

    We’re not trying; not even begun to try.

    Wait until most of those that are ‘middle of the road’, swing voters get on board.

    Then you’ll see some trying...

    I’m watching Raisin in the Sun. 1961. Just had the part where the half dozen negros move into a white neighborhood. This was considered ‘good’ by lefty clowns back then; and still do. Rest of the neighborhood was planning to move….away.

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    Well John Fielder just showed up and offered the negros more money for their house than they paid!

    But then we find out the $6500 insurance check, the money to buy the house, was 'trusted' by Poitier with another negro and he, no surprise, took off with the money. So no home with whitey.

    For decades I've had this idea that when leftys are advocating negros move into white areas, they presented it like Sidney Poitier and his family were going to move in next to you. Not Shitavious Brown and his posse of bastards.

    I didn't realize it was this movie that I saw 40+ years ago that was prompting that.....
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  67. gunner29 says:
    @gunner29

    But can you blame us for trying?
     
    We're not trying; not even begun to try.

    Wait until most of those that are 'middle of the road', swing voters get on board.

    Then you'll see some trying...

    I'm watching Raisin in the Sun. 1961. Just had the part where the half dozen negros move into a white neighborhood. This was considered 'good' by lefty clowns back then; and still do. Rest of the neighborhood was planning to move....away.

    Well John Fielder just showed up and offered the negros more money for their house than they paid!

    But then we find out the $6500 insurance check, the money to buy the house, was ‘trusted’ by Poitier with another negro and he, no surprise, took off with the money. So no home with whitey.

    For decades I’ve had this idea that when leftys are advocating negros move into white areas, they presented it like Sidney Poitier and his family were going to move in next to you. Not Shitavious Brown and his posse of bastards.

    I didn’t realize it was this movie that I saw 40+ years ago that was prompting that…..

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  68. Svigor says:

    Furthermore, if Lincoln wouldn’t have caused a million deaths (soldiers and Southern women and children) in the War of Northern Aggression and just let the South go peaceably like the South wanted to do, Mr. Sailer’s current post would be moot.

    There are a lot of rather obvious consequences of the South successfully seceding that don’t sound all that bad. E.g.:

    Blacks, the American Nakba, could have been dealt with in a sane fashion. Might not’ve been – probably wouldn’t have – but Lincoln strangled any possibility.

    All the horrible communist legislation that communist Yankees forced onto America over Southern resistance (which is pretty much any horrible communist federal law you could name) would not have obtained in the South.

    Probably no American involvement, or at least a much-reduced American involvement, in both World Wars. Without American meddling in WWI, WWII might not’ve happened.

    Vietnam might’ve never happened. Without Vietnam, no communist Boomer Glory Days.

    Sure, no Yankee welfare, but then, we wouldn’t have needed it as much without Yankee invasion.

    The grass is always greener, and all that, but still…

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  69. Currahee says:
    @Whitehall
    Sorry but I have grown layers of colluses around my heart.

    These calluses are the results of my initial bleeding heart syndrome from my early teenage years.

    But actually, not sorry.

    Such calluses are called "wisdom" and "experience."

    Each one teach one:

    EVERYTHING THEY TAUGHT YOU ABOUT RACE IS A LIE!

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  70. @eah
    But he doesn’t seem all that bright.

    Smart enough to say what the media wants to hear and play on white guilt.

    https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/946489893856862208

    white guilt

    Guilty people aren’t that smug.

    His target audience is post-white (deracinated), not white.

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  71. They Can’t Kill Us All

    No, Wesley, as a technical matter I believe they can. Many “progressive” policies seemed designed for that express purpose (abortion, BLM, et. al.) while maintaining plausible deniability. Currently kills and births look to be just about balancing out where they have sway.

    Might want to reconsider the incentive structure you’re propagating, lest that balance worsen further.

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  72. Anon • Disclaimer says:


    This Wesley Lowery, National Reporter for the Washington Post, won a Pulitzer Prize last year. But he doesn’t seem all that bright.

    Not all that bright?

    That is so square and lame. So white-bread and lacking in creativity.

    This is why we need to pay the creative Negroes copyright money for their memes and expressions.

    The woman below said it much better. Wesley is soft-headed Negro.

    Bingo. Can’t top that. Softheaded Negro.

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  73. Colonel (later General) Chamberlain’s defence of Little Round Top was on the SECOND day of the battle of Gettysburg – as any fule kno!! If you can’t be accurate about small but important and well-known details why should we accept your statements about anything else?

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  74. @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans

    You’re still a crappy historian, but at least you’re getting more honest.

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  75. Lowery speaks to Brown’s family and the families of other victims other victims’ families as well as local activists.

    That’s nice. Does he speak to the police and civilians who defended themselves against Brown and his ilk? Those who were attacked and menaced by Brown and his I’ll? No? A fundamental tenet, if not the fundamental tenet, of investigation, journalistic or otherwise, if to get both sides of the story, as it were. Cops show up to break up a fight, first thing they do if they are competent is separate the combatants and ask each, separately, to tell them what happened. (They of course also interview any third parties who were witnesses.) Used to be a reporter covering alleged corruption or injustice would interview the accusers and the accused to try and uncover the truth. Nowadays, of course, the truth is a foregone conclusion basement upon the Man’s prerogatives. One is reminded of the Soviet police who could solve any crime by fairly quickly purporting to find the perpetrators: whether or not the incarcerated suspects were in fact responsible for the crime was an afterthought, if even that.

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  76. biz says:
    @surly
    Somewhat interestingly, NYC homicides are at record lows, but Detroit is at a several decade low for homicides as well.

    Detroit is at a several decade low for homicides as well

    Do you mean number of homicides or homicide rate? Because Detroit is at basically an all-time low for population.

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  77. @Svigor

    Furthermore, if Lincoln wouldn’t have caused a million deaths (soldiers and Southern women and children) in the War of Northern Aggression and just let the South go peaceably like the South wanted to do, Mr. Sailer’s current post would be moot.
     
    There are a lot of rather obvious consequences of the South successfully seceding that don't sound all that bad. E.g.:

    Blacks, the American Nakba, could have been dealt with in a sane fashion. Might not've been - probably wouldn't have - but Lincoln strangled any possibility.

    All the horrible communist legislation that communist Yankees forced onto America over Southern resistance (which is pretty much any horrible communist federal law you could name) would not have obtained in the South.

    Probably no American involvement, or at least a much-reduced American involvement, in both World Wars. Without American meddling in WWI, WWII might not've happened.

    Vietnam might've never happened. Without Vietnam, no communist Boomer Glory Days.

    Sure, no Yankee welfare, but then, we wouldn't have needed it as much without Yankee invasion.

    The grass is always greener, and all that, but still...

    That’s the thinking.

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  78. “They Can’t Kill Us All”

    I quite logically thought the “us” was white people. Black people? LOL. What ridiculous fantasy will they come up with next.

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  79. Olorin says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    "northern Sea People, aren’t very good at the lamentation tradition"

    Oviously, you are unfamiliar with the Anglo-Saxon elegies:

    https://anglosaxonpoetry.camden.rutgers.edu/the-seafarer/

    https://anglosaxonpoetry.camden.rutgers.edu/the-wanderer/

    https://anglosaxonpoetry.camden.rutgers.edu/the-wifes-lament/

    In fact am familiar, and in AS.

    Point was that we have moved on from that mindset.

    Blacks and Jews have not. Or anyway, not so you can tell in the past half century of the ascendancy of their myths via broadcast and news media.

    Our literatures for the past 500 years or so have been of curiosity, innovation, exploration, building, and evolving. Of seeking to understand the true will of the “Most High,” and trusting that life can be better if we strive with that rather than against it, struggling to improve ourselves in the process.

    The Christian part of “The Seafarer” in the closing lines appears to be a gloss on a much older song. As part of The Exeter Book (10th-11th centuries) we would expect this. And anytime you write down these oral forms, things are added and lost.

    The Christian closing lines of “The Seafarer” always interested me in that they refer only to the Great Father, the deity of northern Sea People “who bids the mighty ocean deep its own appointed courses keep.” That suggests a more chthonic connection between scribe and singer, one that the Christian invading cult had not yet succeeded in severing, while displacing The Father from his family in favor of civil servants of a Roman administrative religion headquartered far away. The cult whose prophet demands you abandon your genetic family for him and call strangers “father” and “sister” and “mother” and “brother.”

    Compare this steadfast focus on the Great Father to the Anglican Book of Common Prayer, in which all prayers to The Father have the son tacked on at the endparts, like a donkey’s tail at a child’s party.

    In matters of faith, some of us never did accept the pregnant virgin, impregnating pigeon, and genius magical martyr son. That effort to anthropomorphize and magick-up The Father lessens him…and inevitably leads to the worship of sluts, trannies, and numales, whose self-asserted magicks are not required to assess matters of outcome or practicality. Still, a god that looks personally comforting is probably all that most of humanity is capable of, in any era.

    For some of us, our prime comfort is that we never can or will know The Father’s true countenance, even as we try to work in line with natural law, particularly where things like deepwater and weather are concerned. The mariners and science-fiction-writing shipbuilders who raised and taught me were partial to various strands of Buddhism, which deftly manages the “Great Father” psychology without fetishising an actual human.

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    What about singing the Blues?

    The Christian God has compassion. Which is more than I can say for your Cthonic god, who sounds about as merciful as Cthulhu. You'd probably scorn to have anything in common with Barbara Ehrenreich, but her quasi-theology in "Living with a Wild God" is perilously close to what you're describing.
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  80. @Olorin
    In fact am familiar, and in AS.

    Point was that we have moved on from that mindset.

    Blacks and Jews have not. Or anyway, not so you can tell in the past half century of the ascendancy of their myths via broadcast and news media.

    Our literatures for the past 500 years or so have been of curiosity, innovation, exploration, building, and evolving. Of seeking to understand the true will of the "Most High," and trusting that life can be better if we strive with that rather than against it, struggling to improve ourselves in the process.

    The Christian part of "The Seafarer" in the closing lines appears to be a gloss on a much older song. As part of The Exeter Book (10th-11th centuries) we would expect this. And anytime you write down these oral forms, things are added and lost.

    The Christian closing lines of "The Seafarer" always interested me in that they refer only to the Great Father, the deity of northern Sea People "who bids the mighty ocean deep its own appointed courses keep." That suggests a more chthonic connection between scribe and singer, one that the Christian invading cult had not yet succeeded in severing, while displacing The Father from his family in favor of civil servants of a Roman administrative religion headquartered far away. The cult whose prophet demands you abandon your genetic family for him and call strangers "father" and "sister" and "mother" and "brother."

    Compare this steadfast focus on the Great Father to the Anglican Book of Common Prayer, in which all prayers to The Father have the son tacked on at the endparts, like a donkey's tail at a child's party.

    In matters of faith, some of us never did accept the pregnant virgin, impregnating pigeon, and genius magical martyr son. That effort to anthropomorphize and magick-up The Father lessens him...and inevitably leads to the worship of sluts, trannies, and numales, whose self-asserted magicks are not required to assess matters of outcome or practicality. Still, a god that looks personally comforting is probably all that most of humanity is capable of, in any era.

    For some of us, our prime comfort is that we never can or will know The Father's true countenance, even as we try to work in line with natural law, particularly where things like deepwater and weather are concerned. The mariners and science-fiction-writing shipbuilders who raised and taught me were partial to various strands of Buddhism, which deftly manages the "Great Father" psychology without fetishising an actual human.

    So what’s Beowulf? A higher form of pagan since he monotheistically refers to God instead of gods? And how much of this do you ascribe to a scribe (Christian, possibly a monk)? And do you intend to hearken back to the badass AS gods or pride yourself on modern progress past lamenting?

    What about singing the Blues?

    The Christian God has compassion. Which is more than I can say for your Cthonic god, who sounds about as merciful as Cthulhu. You’d probably scorn to have anything in common with Barbara Ehrenreich, but her quasi-theology in “Living with a Wild God” is perilously close to what you’re describing.

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  81. jack ryan says: • Website

    In the worst instances of the Lib Lying press flat out lying about racial hoax crimes the best course of action is to dox all those involved in the lying – that includes of course the main lib liar here the Wasington Post writer Wesley Lowery or others such as the Rolling Stone Magazine liar Sabrina Erdely author of the University of Virginia fraternity rape hoax.

    But also dox (publish the personal information) of everyone giving rave reviews to these terrible liars. Also let local law enforcement officials know about the liars in their mist.

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  82. jack ryan says: • Website
    @eah
    But he doesn’t seem all that bright.

    Smart enough to say what the media wants to hear and play on white guilt.

    https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/946489893856862208

    That was great.

    Let’s make fliers with graphics of both cases and hand them out at train stations.

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  83. jack ryan says: • Website
    @A real guy with a fake name
    I have an interview to add, sort of..

    I spoke with a member of the PG county Police who were called to Baltimore at the time of the riot. He said the first day when Mayor Blake was giving the rioters "space to destroy" they stood in formation in riot gear while the rioters attacked them. He showed me the scars on his arm where a rioter slashed at him with a knife.

    The second day his commander said keep your visor on. Don't let the cameras see your face and go to work. He said they beat the protesters ass.Riots ended that day.

    I'd be willing to bet he the author had no interest in talking to an officer responding to the riots, or one of the cops prosecuted in the deaths of Freddie Gray or Darren Wilson to get their perspective. Mainstream journalism in practice is about uncovering stories that fit the narrative. The Washington Post is happy to shine the light on the plight of those who vote like them. Not so much for those Trump supporting cops.

    “The second day his commander said keep your visor on. Don’t let the cameras see your face and go to work. He said they beat the protesters ass.Riots ended that day.”

    I respond:

    Very interesting.

    I recommend everyone try to remain anonymous in such riot situations – another alternative is to hide, run away and let the BlackLiesMatter, Antifa riot, take control of the street, university etc.

    If you are in a pro Trump rally, or Confederate monument protector rally – try to get in a group where everyone looks the same and the visuals are good or at least you aren’t dressed up to be Hollywood scripted characters of the bad guy racists.

    White bikers have done the best in street contests – bikers look tough but not alien bad guys.

    Have head gear that protects your face and conceals your identity.

    If someone in your group is arrested for fighting back against Antifa BlackLiesMatter – don’t let the guy go down, swear under oath it was someone else in the group that was fighting, hell the Central Park gang rapists of the jogger got off when they authorities Sharpton/Morganthal pinned the crime on one Black guy who was already doing long time for some other crime (they bought him off).

    We have to stop being so GD honest, fair and always losing.

    Also, so many Antifa, BlackLiesMatter criminals pose as journalists – just as the worst Communists in Central America during the 70s and 80s posed as Catholic Priests. Our side in that conflict decided that the only good Communist fake Catholic Priest was a dead one.

    Long since time to turn the cops or our street biker warriors against the fake news lying press.

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  84. jack ryan says: • Website
    @Yan Shen
    The worst thing that white Americans could've possibly done was to brutalize blacks for much of the past couple centuries. Brutalizing the most disadvantaged group of people just seems like poor sportsmanship, almost like rubbing salt on the wound. A handful of elite African immigrants aside, blacks generally tend to be at the bottom of whatever society they find themselves in, even with explicit help programs such as affirmative action or the likes. Brutalizing them on top of the existing deficits they face just seems too much, almost like uh ganging up on a cripple. Alas, it seems like no one got John Derbyshire's message back in the day about treating their fellow black Americans in a civic-minded fashion.

    What's been the result of a couple centuries of racist and violent people who think they're white brutalizing innocent black bodies both in North America and Africa? As far as I can tell, an eternity of black worship and justifications for the failings of the black community in this country till the end of time, when the universe ends in a Big Crunch and a new universe is created within the multiverse in its stead.

    If anyone is shaking their head at the endless fawning over men like Ta Nehisi Coates or singers like Beyonce or wondering how blacks can get away with repeatedly assaulting and robbing Chinese Americans in the Bay Area with no media spotlight whatsoever, this is the price that all posterity must pay for the Original Sin.

    Pathetic.

    You blame evil White racist people for Blacks robbing and assaulting Chinese merchants in the Bay Area.

    I note that the Korean merchants and cowardly, lying Chinese merchants behave differently toward the Black AA thugs, bullies, robbers.

    The Koreans pack guns and fight back.

    I bet Korean merchants voted for Trump.

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  85. jack ryan says: • Website

    For those interested in getting the real what’s going on in the crime streets of Chicago the best blogs are these by anonymous cops and retired Chicago cops:

    http://heyjackass.com

    http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com

    The comment section is excellent – maybe not as well read as here, but we have some tough folks left behind in Chicago.

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    @AndrewR
    Justice will not have been done until a young black man is finally allowed to rob a convenience store, walk down the middle of the street then kill any cops who try to stop him.

    Yep.

    Chris Rock should add a special “Do not do as michael Brown in Ferguson Mo did” in Chris’ immortal:

    “How not to get your as* beat by the police”.

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  87. @Rosamond Vincy
    So what's Beowulf? A higher form of pagan since he monotheistically refers to God instead of gods? And how much of this do you ascribe to a scribe (Christian, possibly a monk)? And do you intend to hearken back to the badass AS gods or pride yourself on modern progress past lamenting?

    What about singing the Blues?

    The Christian God has compassion. Which is more than I can say for your Cthonic god, who sounds about as merciful as Cthulhu. You'd probably scorn to have anything in common with Barbara Ehrenreich, but her quasi-theology in "Living with a Wild God" is perilously close to what you're describing.
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  88. I’ve met Michael Drout and studied with Nicholas Howe–even survived a FemiNutcase classmate who used Judith Butler’s gender theory to analyze Grendel’s Mom (and now has tenure, because there is no justice). I’m familiar with the Christian writing of an old pagan myth, and even suffered the switch from the e-scribe to the i-scribe during translation.

    My question focuses on Olorin’s theology or ethic. He seems to resent the wussy Christian God and long for the return of manly male masculine Nordic gods–something like this:

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  89. @Desiderius
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf:_The_Monsters_and_the_Critics

    Please see reply brlow–came up as independent post instead of reply.

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  90. MaMu1977 says: • Website
    @Rosamond Vincy
    The not-so-original sin is the way liberals, frequently white, keep black people dependent. Case in point: the young woman attending night school and working part-time. She had been on benefits as an unwed teen mother, but was trying to climb out. Her son had a health condition, and when she tried to get help for it, they told her they could not help her unless she quit her part-time job. They emphasized they could help her even MORE if she'd have another baby.

    And then there's the educational system, promoting fad after fad, instead of making kids MEMORIZE the alphabet and arithmetic tables, which worked well enough for pioneer and farm children in the 19th century. Often coached at home out of compendium books, they could at least keep household accounts and read the Bible and the almanac.

    Boom, there goes the dynamite.

    In the 1970′s, a black single mother with 3 kids could get an essentially free living space, government health insurance and $25-50/month in cash and food stamps per member of household. This at a time in which the average non-union american worker may have brought home an equivalent amount of money after taxes, but would have had to pay for those living expenses from their own pocket (remember, minimum wage wasn’t set at $1.25 until, IIRC, 1973. A $5/hr job in the 70′s would have given the same young woman a $100/week take home check, post-taxes/insurance deduction. $400/month, minus transportation, rent, utilities and food leaves her with spare change.)

    For an uneducated teenaged girl with an inflated sense of entitlement and the standard, “You’re not the boss of me!”, rebel attitude that seems to exist in every girl as soon as she becomes a “woman”, sitting on her ass and receiving free money for doing someone, ahem, something that she wanted to do anyway makes perfect sense. Add in a few feminists to shore up the, “You deserve this, the white man hates you so get in his pockets, you don’t need a man, the first guy abandoned you so why trust another one…”, mindset, and you sow chaos. Those women raised girls who mistrusted men and boys who hated themselves (and girls who hated women and wanted to become men, and boys who hated women and modeled themselves after the few visible male role models in their working man-free environment, and boys who were forced to become men too quickly necause their teenaged mothers weren’t up to par, and boys who wanted to become women because the women in their environment had all of the visible money and power, but that’s a story for another time.)

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