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The growth in death rates among whites identified in late October by Case & Deaton for 45-54 year olds is turning out to be not restricted just to middle-aged whites. This week, Andrew Gelman pointed out that the age adjusted death rate was up 9% from 1999 to 2013 among white women age 35-44 (although down among men of the same age).

But a blog called Economics and Social Commentary by Sendil points out that at least age-unadjusted death rates are up sharply among white 25-34 year olds (lumping both sexes together):

Their publication thus suggests that mortality rates among non-Hispanic whites did not increase for any age group other than the 45-54 age group. However, this is what I found in the CDC WONDER database. Here are is the change in mortality rates per 100,000 people for non-Hispanic whites, among the 25-34 age group:

Year Results are sorted in by-variable order
Move this column one place to the right Deaths Click to sort by Deaths ascending Click to sort by Deaths descending
Move this column one place to the rightMove this column one place to the left Population Click to sort by Population ascending Click to sort by Population descending
Move this column one place to the left Crude Rate Per 100,000 Click to sort by Crude Rate Per 100,000 ascending Click to sort by Crude Rate Per 100,000 descending
1999 23,986 26,264,713 91.3
2000 23,191 25,735,244 90.1
2001 24,191 25,009,128 96.7
2002 23,758 24,581,498 96.6
2003 23,557 24,227,137 97.2
2004 23,397 23,954,185 97.7
2005 23,826 23,668,541 100.7
2006 24,606 23,508,119 104.7
2007 24,757 23,533,841 105.2
2008 24,852 23,740,364 104.7
2009 25,203 23,983,625 105.1
2010 25,486 24,143,320 105.6
2011 26,754 24,519,007 109.1
2012 27,266 24,744,491 110.2
2013 27,583 24,969,763 110.5

The relative increase since 1999 is 21%. Yes that’s right, 21%. Quite a lot more than the 8.9% relative increase observed for the age group 45-54, during the same period. Yet no one talks about the sharp increase in mortality rates for this age group. Probably because no one knows about it.

Note that I don’t believe Sendil applied the age-adjustment technique that Gelman devised to account for influence of the Baby Boom ageing through the 45-54 year range. But the size of this white 25-34 year old population is relatively stable from 1999 to 2013, so age adjusting probably wouldn’t have that much of an effect.

I’m guessing that opioid overdoses are the driving force in this very bad news. But clearly this topic needs more investigation.

UPDATE: Jason Bayz graphs CDC data on cause of death among whites (both sexes) age 25-34:

By Jason Bayz

So it’s mostly drug-related deaths among 25-34 year olds. Although the near-doubling of the alcohol-related deaths in this young age group does not bode well for the future. It’s hard to drink yourself to death by age 34, but less difficult to do it by, say, age 54 if you have a running start at it in your 20s.

 
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  1. Very possibly opiate overdose. But what causes them to overdose on opium? Possibly anomie from diversity?

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    You may be right, cheap Mexican heroin, controlled by who else? Mexican gangs. Target the American Heartland.

    On this trip, Gerardo Vagas would swallow 71 pellets — a full kilo, just over 2 pounds, enough for as many as 30,000 hits at $10 a pop on American streets. And so before he set off on his 3,900-mile journey from Uruapan, Mexico, Vargas had been given the rules: No soda, because it could erode the pellets' wrapping. No orange juice, either. Drink only water. He was told which airports to avoid, his every move orchestrated by his handler in Mexico.

    And don't eat anything, he was told, until reaching the final destination: Dayton, Ohio, one of the new frontiers of the American heroin epidemic.

    http://theweek.com/articles/582099/how-mexican-drug-cartels-are-fueling-americas-deadly-heroin-epidemic

    More from a recent 60-minutes piece: Heroin in the Heartland
    The faces of heroin include the young, middle-to-upper class and suburban. What was once thought of as an inner-city problem is now a national
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/heroin-in-the-heartland-60-minutes/
    , @Hail

    anomie from diversity
     
    Robert Hume strikes the root -- In the very first comment. Well done, sir.

    This (anomie from diversity) is essentially never talked about, ever, in polite public discourse in the USA (though it is here at I-Steve). As one of the great sociological phenomena of the past decades, it's at once troublesome and instructive that the issue is literally never mentioned, ever, on Fox-CNN-NBC etc... Even Charles Murray, for whatever reason, completely ignores this in his opus Coming Apart, an otherwise commendable project. The analysis in Section II (dealing with the bottom quarter or so of Whites and their decline) is lacking as a result. I found his analysis of Section I much more incisive.
    , @Stan d Mute

    what causes them to overdose on opium?
     
    It goes without saying, so I'll go ahead and say it..

    What, exactly, do we have to live for? The next season of Walking Dead? Our job prospects are dismal unless we have very specialized experience in data center operations or writing algorithms. The factories are all gone. Service jobs demand "bi-lingual" workers. We don't have kids because who the hell would put their own kid through this crap? We started off as little kids being terrorized by evil Russians and were taught to cower under our desks as if our desk was nuke-proof. Told that any second we could be annihilated, who cared? Then we were told we would become a minority in the land our fathers had built. So why would we put in any effort? Then we learned we were all evil racists even if we had never seen a negro. After that we were told we hated women and queers. We had job opportunities and school opportunities given to people hopelessly less qualified because we were the wrong color or sex. And then, if we did everything right, built a company and created jobs, paid huge sums in taxes, our wives took everything and left us homeless with the assistance of a lawyer we paid for and a family court judge we also paid for. So. Why bother? The game has been rigged against us all our lives. We have NEVER mattered nor had ANY say in our fate.

    That's why.
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  2. clearly this topic needs more investigation

    It doesn’t. It’s merely whites, so who cares?

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    Be prepared for stories about how whites are monopolizing life insurance payouts from the NYT...
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  3. The data is not very meaningful until the cause for the increase in deaths is determined. I suspect it’s the side effect of meth use more than opiates. Meth has getting getting its fingers into Middle America more than many other drugs have in the past.

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    Maybe people who smoke meth develop more aches and pains and thus get into painkillers and heroin?
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  4. My wild-ass guess is that it’s the result of a spike in mortality in rural areas, which would explain why whites have been disproportionately hit.

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    I don't have data for urban/rural areas, but here is the data for the 50 states and D.C., 1999 and 2013:

    economicssendil.blogspot.se/2015/11/midlife-mortality-for-non-hispanic.html

    , @unpc downunder
    I wonder if the combination of high levels of prescription and non-rescription drugs is a significant factor. Mixing drugs without doctor's supervision is a common cause of ill health.

    Whites everywhere are drinking alot and taking more recreational drugs than 50 years ago, but whites in other countries aren't taking as many prescription drugs - particularly painkillers, sleeping tablets and stimulants.

    American whites could also be taking more dangerous combinations of prescription and recreational drugs. For example if you take Ritalin with ecstacy you can experience serotonin syndrome, which can have a number of nasty effects on the internal organs. If you take Prozac with alcohol you will probably be okay (in the short term at least) but if you take sleeping pills with alcohol the chance of something bad happening are much greater.

    Whites experience higher levels of affective and attention disorders than NAMs and may benefits from medication for these disorders. However, if they regularly take recreational drugs as well they may be better off drug free.
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  5. start reproducing again! and forget about your money and toys! family is everything! jackasses!

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  6. Is it crime? Could there be a poorly reported street Jihad against urban and bad suburb (lots of non Whites) Whites by Blacks and Hispanics? I don’t know but it might explain the numbers.

    Diversity plus Proximity Equals War.

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  7. @reiner Tor

    clearly this topic needs more investigation
     
    It doesn't. It's merely whites, so who cares?

    Be prepared for stories about how whites are monopolizing life insurance payouts from the NYT…

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  8. Finally, once all white people are dead we can finally be rid of all these pesky medical advances and technology they made. The legacy of slavery will finally be gone, and we can get down to some hardcore cannibalism. Yum!

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  9. Interesting. Using the CDC WONDER page I found that death rates are up for American Indians in the 25-34, 35-44, and 45-54 age group as well.

    http://wonder.cdc.gov/mcd-icd10.html

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    Whites stole the land from the Indians, making them a small (3-4%) minority. Now to right that wrong, Indians need to be eclipsed further by masses of Mexicans, Asians, Africans and other non-whites.

    It might be that further eclipsing Indians is not beneficial to them.
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  10. Case and Deaton claim in their study that all-cause mortality rates haven’t increased for any other age group than 45-54. This is incorrect according to their own data (CDC Wonder). Of course, whether the data is valid can be discussed. Also, it is possible to age-adjust the data by looking at 1-year groups in CDC Wonder, tedious work. I do not think the difference should be that big, given that this is post baby-boom, and fertility rates have been fairly stable since the 1970′s.

    Anyway can someone point this out to Case and Deaton (the increase in mortality rate for age group 25-34, that is)? My attempts have been futile indeed.

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  11. Just scratching my head it kind of coincides with meth it seems to me.

    Have you any insight on how this breaks down by social class? Or location? If you see a “hot spot” in rural Oklahoma or Missouri that might back up my idea.

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  12. Number one cause of death in that age range is accidental death (mostly car accidents). I thought traffic deaths have been trending downwards. Suicide and homicide are number two and three. Then there’s some from cancer, etc. More suicide would by my guess.

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  13. Opiate overdoses happen because opiates are so damn dangerous — the dose that makes you stop breathing isn’t much higher than the dose that makes you feel good. Also, there’s almost no limit to how habituated you can become to opiates, that is, how much higher the dose needs to be for a chronic user to get an effect. So a heavy user takes a break from drugs for a while (trying to get clean, maybe just can’t get any) then uses again and takes the amount that they needed before — and it kills them.

    Also, it’s worth noting that the widespread availability of prescription opioids (the more proper term to refer to this whole class of drugs while opiate means only those that are chemically derived from opium) is the result of a pendulum swinging too far in the direction of opioid use. Back in the 80s and early 90s there was lots of talk about the horrors of undertreated pain and “opiophobia” among physicians. MDs were encouraged to prescribe much more freely, initially for cancer pain and acute pain but later for chronic non-terminal pain.

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  14. Would there was an award for this Sendil. That’s an egregious omission by Case and Deaton. Um, wtf with them?

    A quick search can’t find it, but there was a rather breathless op-ed in the guardian (I think it was) about the suicide rate over there, that even suggested something fundamentally frighting concerning the health system and its parent’sapathy, I do recall, since apathy looks more like a cover-up under single-payer I suppose. Actually it unsettled me in its vehemence and desperation. I don’t really want to find it because it felt fever swampish and I didn’t finish it. (But it would have been the Guardian I’m almost certain.)

    Well first, public apology to Steve. My comments are generally about my experience, often long and sometimes many. Which means I invited myself onto Steve’ coat-tails basically. And I tend to antagonize points no one else cares about, including this right here. Before I’ve said this is a public square but its not, it’s Steve’s house and I won’t squawk a peep if his whim sends anything of mine to the dump, just want him to know that. What we are besides what we do is a great numinous mystery, and somthin about this blog has always been an intuition to me.

    That, said–Notice the steady decline from 2001 to 2004 and the steady increase since: F-book. Launched 2/4/2004. Not good to play with numbers like that I think; not good to be a guy who plays with numbers like that. Did you know him and his people have a secret hoody that they where, secret with an insignia on the inside of it? Would you believe that? I don’t, cause he’s in his thirties and obviously not a little kid with a club in the woods. I don’t believe it, but I saw it and everybody else did, when Zuck sweat himself soaked and accidentally let the black cat out of the bag cause his interview caught a glimpse of the secret symbol of him and his braniacs. Wonder why he was sweating so abnormally. His secret club doesn’t mean a thing except that he’s the type of guy who has one. Me though, I wear stuff on my sleeve. Or I brand my shoulder at fourteen with a big metal shamrock off the frying pan. some people I guess.

    What Women Want is a great movie. If you haven’t seen it you should watch it and duly consider what’s in that poor girls head who Mel Gibson saves at the end, cause “unhappy the land in need of heroes”

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  15. Using the same CDC WONDER source I found the following for the causes of death for these Whites:

    The higher death rate is wholly accounted for by the increase in deaths from drug induced causes. Drug related deaths have tripled between 1999 and 2013 for this group.

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    Furthermore, White drug related death rates for the 25-34 age group have increased even as Black drug related death rates have stayed the same. Whites in the 25-34 age group are now substantially more likely to die of drug related causes than are Blacks:

    https://jasonbayz.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/drug-related-deaths-whites-and-blacks.png

    The CDC WONDER page simply lists "drug induced" causes, not sure how much suicide would be a factor there which might explain the higher White rates. But if I had to guess I'd say that's the main factor. Whites are already more suicidal and the drugs push them over the edge.

    It should be noted that in terms of ER visits for drugs Blacks are overrepresented compared to Whites, see table 6 of this report:

    http://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/DAWN2k11ED/DAWN2k11ED/DAWN2k11ED.pdf

    It lists which drug the individuals were hospitalized for, this follows what you'd expect from racial stereotypes. Are "White" drugs like meth so much worse than "black" drugs like Crack/cocaine?
    , @Hail

    The higher death rate is wholly accounted for by the increase in deaths from drug induced causes
     
    Why have all other races' death rates concurrently declined?
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  16. @sabril
    My wild-ass guess is that it's the result of a spike in mortality in rural areas, which would explain why whites have been disproportionately hit.

    I don’t have data for urban/rural areas, but here is the data for the 50 states and D.C., 1999 and 2013:

    economicssendil.blogspot.se/2015/11/midlife-mortality-for-non-hispanic.html

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  17. @Robert Hume
    Very possibly opiate overdose. But what causes them to overdose on opium? Possibly anomie from diversity?

    You may be right, cheap Mexican heroin, controlled by who else? Mexican gangs. Target the American Heartland.

    On this trip, Gerardo Vagas would swallow 71 pellets — a full kilo, just over 2 pounds, enough for as many as 30,000 hits at $10 a pop on American streets. And so before he set off on his 3,900-mile journey from Uruapan, Mexico, Vargas had been given the rules: No soda, because it could erode the pellets’ wrapping. No orange juice, either. Drink only water. He was told which airports to avoid, his every move orchestrated by his handler in Mexico.

    And don’t eat anything, he was told, until reaching the final destination: Dayton, Ohio, one of the new frontiers of the American heroin epidemic.

    http://theweek.com/articles/582099/how-mexican-drug-cartels-are-fueling-americas-deadly-heroin-epidemic

    More from a recent 60-minutes piece: Heroin in the Heartland
    The faces of heroin include the young, middle-to-upper class and suburban. What was once thought of as an inner-city problem is now a national

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/heroin-in-the-heartland-60-minutes/

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  18. @Anon
    The data is not very meaningful until the cause for the increase in deaths is determined. I suspect it's the side effect of meth use more than opiates. Meth has getting getting its fingers into Middle America more than many other drugs have in the past.

    Maybe people who smoke meth develop more aches and pains and thus get into painkillers and heroin?

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    McConnell surged into the senate lead in Kentucky when he started running ads about fighting heroin addiction.
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  19. White people dying from suicide and drug overdose, let’s just blame it on Black bodies. I mean why not? Black bodies blame all of their ills on White people. So lets return the favor to them. An eye for an eye.

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  20. @Jason Bayz
    Using the same CDC WONDER source I found the following for the causes of death for these Whites:

    https://jasonbayz.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/drug-related-deaths-for-whites2.png

    https://jasonbayz.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/drug-related-deaths-for-whites-table.png

    The higher death rate is wholly accounted for by the increase in deaths from drug induced causes. Drug related deaths have tripled between 1999 and 2013 for this group.

    Furthermore, White drug related death rates for the 25-34 age group have increased even as Black drug related death rates have stayed the same. Whites in the 25-34 age group are now substantially more likely to die of drug related causes than are Blacks:

    The CDC WONDER page simply lists “drug induced” causes, not sure how much suicide would be a factor there which might explain the higher White rates. But if I had to guess I’d say that’s the main factor. Whites are already more suicidal and the drugs push them over the edge.

    It should be noted that in terms of ER visits for drugs Blacks are overrepresented compared to Whites, see table 6 of this report:

    http://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/DAWN2k11ED/DAWN2k11ED/DAWN2k11ED.pdf

    It lists which drug the individuals were hospitalized for, this follows what you’d expect from racial stereotypes. Are “White” drugs like meth so much worse than “black” drugs like Crack/cocaine?

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  21. I doubt it’s meth. Meth usually is a substitute for cocaine which is somewhat more addictive and lots more likely to kill with acute cardiac conditions. Heroin, on the other hand, is usually a substitute for synthetic codeines (oxy, tylenol-III, and the like) and while heroin isn’t more deadly than those when it’s pure and administered carefully, it’s rarely pure and administered carefully.

    I’d note that death rates for ages 5-40 are pretty small and even tiny fluctuations can be a large percentage of such a small number. I’d bet on something that made a small change in the top causes of death for the age group: car crashes, suicides, military conflict, and paramilitary (gang) conflict.

    So maybe meth keep people up late driving and gets them in crashes or maybe a terrorist attack and neocon warmongers get them volunteering for futile foreign wars based on lies that lead to injuries, chronic pain, opium, and suicides.

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    while heroin isn’t more deadly than those when it’s pure and administered carefully, it’s rarely pure and administered carefully.
     
    Fentanyl. Too strong for any pill form, it's administered as surgical anesthesia and in transdermal patches to chronic pain patients. Those patches are cut open and the Fentanyl mixed with heroin or dosed directly. A TINY amount is fatal. It's something like 50 times stronger than morphine.

    Oxycodone. Hillbilly heroin. Around ten times stronger than morphine. Before reform a couple years ago Florida doctors wrote enough scripts to supply everyone in the state with a couple pills a day. Bus loads of "pain patients" would travel down from Ohio, WV, TN, etc. After the reform these folks didn't quit - they just switched to Heroin laced with Fentanyl.
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  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Americans are living longer, which means they are spending a higher proportion of their lives in retirement, receiving Social Security payments. Yet the government program is a mere five years away from being unable to pay out all of the claims it has promised. Because today’s retirees enjoy longer lives and better health, both Social Security retirement ages (“normal” and “early eligibility”) must be increased. It is common sense, and it is fair. ”

    http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/11/time-to-raise-social-securitys-retirement-age

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  23. @sabril
    My wild-ass guess is that it's the result of a spike in mortality in rural areas, which would explain why whites have been disproportionately hit.

    I wonder if the combination of high levels of prescription and non-rescription drugs is a significant factor. Mixing drugs without doctor’s supervision is a common cause of ill health.

    Whites everywhere are drinking alot and taking more recreational drugs than 50 years ago, but whites in other countries aren’t taking as many prescription drugs – particularly painkillers, sleeping tablets and stimulants.

    American whites could also be taking more dangerous combinations of prescription and recreational drugs. For example if you take Ritalin with ecstacy you can experience serotonin syndrome, which can have a number of nasty effects on the internal organs. If you take Prozac with alcohol you will probably be okay (in the short term at least) but if you take sleeping pills with alcohol the chance of something bad happening are much greater.

    Whites experience higher levels of affective and attention disorders than NAMs and may benefits from medication for these disorders. However, if they regularly take recreational drugs as well they may be better off drug free.

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    "Whites everywhere are drinking alot"

    My people the Mediterranean Southern Europeans on average do not drink as much as your people the Northern Europeans. With you being an Aussie I assume you are of British descent.

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  24. @Robert Hume
    Very possibly opiate overdose. But what causes them to overdose on opium? Possibly anomie from diversity?

    anomie from diversity

    Robert Hume strikes the root — In the very first comment. Well done, sir.

    This (anomie from diversity) is essentially never talked about, ever, in polite public discourse in the USA (though it is here at I-Steve). As one of the great sociological phenomena of the past decades, it’s at once troublesome and instructive that the issue is literally never mentioned, ever, on Fox-CNN-NBC etc… Even Charles Murray, for whatever reason, completely ignores this in his opus Coming Apart, an otherwise commendable project. The analysis in Section II (dealing with the bottom quarter or so of Whites and their decline) is lacking as a result. I found his analysis of Section I much more incisive.

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  25. @Jason Bayz
    Using the same CDC WONDER source I found the following for the causes of death for these Whites:

    https://jasonbayz.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/drug-related-deaths-for-whites2.png

    https://jasonbayz.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/drug-related-deaths-for-whites-table.png

    The higher death rate is wholly accounted for by the increase in deaths from drug induced causes. Drug related deaths have tripled between 1999 and 2013 for this group.

    The higher death rate is wholly accounted for by the increase in deaths from drug induced causes

    Why have all other races’ death rates concurrently declined?

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    The drug related death rate for Blacks was largely unchanged while the non-drug related death rate declined.

    For Asians the drug related death rate increased, from 1.4 in 199 to 3.9 in 2013. This is still far below the White and Black rates and so is dwarfed by the effect of lower non drug related death rates.

    For American Indians the drug related death rate rose in a similar way to the White rate, from 11.1 in 199 to 29.5 in 2013. Alcohol related death rates are a fraction of the drug related death rates for other groups, not so for Indians, their rate rose from 12.6 in 199 to 30 in 2013. Their death rates from other causes also rose, from 159.4 in 1999 to 170.3 in 2013. If I were a SJW I might make a big deal out of this.

    For Hispanics the drug related death rate increased slightly while the non drug related death rate declined, however there has been so much immigration in this period that I don't think you can conclude anything from the data.

    All these rates are out of 100,000 individuals among the 25-34 age group, from the CDC:

    http://wonder.cdc.gov/mcd-icd10.html

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  26. @Steve Sailer
    Maybe people who smoke meth develop more aches and pains and thus get into painkillers and heroin?

    McConnell surged into the senate lead in Kentucky when he started running ads about fighting heroin addiction.

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  27. @Hail

    The higher death rate is wholly accounted for by the increase in deaths from drug induced causes
     
    Why have all other races' death rates concurrently declined?

    The drug related death rate for Blacks was largely unchanged while the non-drug related death rate declined.

    For Asians the drug related death rate increased, from 1.4 in 199 to 3.9 in 2013. This is still far below the White and Black rates and so is dwarfed by the effect of lower non drug related death rates.

    For American Indians the drug related death rate rose in a similar way to the White rate, from 11.1 in 199 to 29.5 in 2013. Alcohol related death rates are a fraction of the drug related death rates for other groups, not so for Indians, their rate rose from 12.6 in 199 to 30 in 2013. Their death rates from other causes also rose, from 159.4 in 1999 to 170.3 in 2013. If I were a SJW I might make a big deal out of this.

    For Hispanics the drug related death rate increased slightly while the non drug related death rate declined, however there has been so much immigration in this period that I don’t think you can conclude anything from the data.

    All these rates are out of 100,000 individuals among the 25-34 age group, from the CDC:

    http://wonder.cdc.gov/mcd-icd10.html

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    Thanks.
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  28. Has any of these studies factored in Whites’ combat deaths in America’s longest wars? It seems that the 25-34 age group would embrace a lot of junior officers and young NCO’s – a cohort whose members have always exposed themselves in combat more than the other men in their units.

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  29. @Jason Bayz
    The drug related death rate for Blacks was largely unchanged while the non-drug related death rate declined.

    For Asians the drug related death rate increased, from 1.4 in 199 to 3.9 in 2013. This is still far below the White and Black rates and so is dwarfed by the effect of lower non drug related death rates.

    For American Indians the drug related death rate rose in a similar way to the White rate, from 11.1 in 199 to 29.5 in 2013. Alcohol related death rates are a fraction of the drug related death rates for other groups, not so for Indians, their rate rose from 12.6 in 199 to 30 in 2013. Their death rates from other causes also rose, from 159.4 in 1999 to 170.3 in 2013. If I were a SJW I might make a big deal out of this.

    For Hispanics the drug related death rate increased slightly while the non drug related death rate declined, however there has been so much immigration in this period that I don't think you can conclude anything from the data.

    All these rates are out of 100,000 individuals among the 25-34 age group, from the CDC:

    http://wonder.cdc.gov/mcd-icd10.html

    Thanks.

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  30. @Jason Bayz
    Interesting. Using the CDC WONDER page I found that death rates are up for American Indians in the 25-34, 35-44, and 45-54 age group as well.

    http://wonder.cdc.gov/mcd-icd10.html

    Whites stole the land from the Indians, making them a small (3-4%) minority. Now to right that wrong, Indians need to be eclipsed further by masses of Mexicans, Asians, Africans and other non-whites.

    It might be that further eclipsing Indians is not beneficial to them.

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    The theory of La Raza Cosmica maintains that Mexicans are actually Indians with a right to disregard borders in the Western Hemisphere.

    The average reservation Indian is dependent on government largess, or a state-protected casino. Sticking it to whitey via immigration will presumably increase the likelihood of future socialism. The casino barons certainly welcome more gambling happy Asians, a la House of Cards.
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  31. I’m guessing a lot of it is drugs, especially opioids. This is a consequence of better marketing of hard street drugs to the masses, in vastly more parts of the country. Anecdotally, the stoners I knew in the early to mid 1980s only smoked weed and drank–there were pills (often weak and perhaps bogus) and acid–perhaps good but perhaps very week and watered down. Perhaps Quaaludes. But mostly people just smoked weed and blonde hashish, perhaps “sensimilla.” Thus, there was a drug frontier beyond which you could not easily go–and most people stayed with smoking weed (we called it pot) and drinking beer.

    Cocaine was way too expensive for kids–it was viewed as a yuppie drug. Crack hadn’t been invented, or was still just in the big city East Coast. In Rochester NY, I’m guessing that crack didn’t show up until 1985 or 1986, and at first it was perceived as largely a ghetto drug (though it was cheap enough to deliver a few quick highs to people with $10 to spend).

    Weed and beer are convivial intoxicants, relatively mild. Better at wasting your time than killing you within a year. The biggest risk is drunken accidents, so you need some judgement and norms to prevent fatal accidents–or good luck.

    HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED

    The hints are in books like _Dreamland_ by Sam Quinones but the syndrome is more general: hard street drugs are more available, cheaply and reliably, in middle class suburbs and white rural America. Meth in various parts of rural America–and opioids in other places.

    Also, probably, long run social trends. The ebbing of what James Q. Wilson called “The investment in impulse control” has an impact. So does declining social capital more generally–what Robert Putnam grouped with “airbags” for the middle class–2d chances, rehab, stable parents with houses and curfews and social support, as well as just the model of what stable adult life looks like (boring, but good for long life expectancy).

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  32. @reiner Tor
    Whites stole the land from the Indians, making them a small (3-4%) minority. Now to right that wrong, Indians need to be eclipsed further by masses of Mexicans, Asians, Africans and other non-whites.

    It might be that further eclipsing Indians is not beneficial to them.

    The theory of La Raza Cosmica maintains that Mexicans are actually Indians with a right to disregard borders in the Western Hemisphere.

    The average reservation Indian is dependent on government largess, or a state-protected casino. Sticking it to whitey via immigration will presumably increase the likelihood of future socialism. The casino barons certainly welcome more gambling happy Asians, a la House of Cards.

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    Yeah, but still, American Indians tend to have an ornery streak that makes them look skeptically upon the SJW conventional wisdom.
    , @anon
    The media covered up what happened in white blue collar areas since the start of mass immigration and off-shoring.

    Anyone who knows what happened knows the people in those areas started self-medicating to escape.

    Diversity kills.

    All those Reaganites / Thatcherites who were cheer leaders at the time cos they were anti-union can look forward to exactly the same thing that was done to the blue collar people being done to them and their family.
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  33. @unpc downunder
    I wonder if the combination of high levels of prescription and non-rescription drugs is a significant factor. Mixing drugs without doctor's supervision is a common cause of ill health.

    Whites everywhere are drinking alot and taking more recreational drugs than 50 years ago, but whites in other countries aren't taking as many prescription drugs - particularly painkillers, sleeping tablets and stimulants.

    American whites could also be taking more dangerous combinations of prescription and recreational drugs. For example if you take Ritalin with ecstacy you can experience serotonin syndrome, which can have a number of nasty effects on the internal organs. If you take Prozac with alcohol you will probably be okay (in the short term at least) but if you take sleeping pills with alcohol the chance of something bad happening are much greater.

    Whites experience higher levels of affective and attention disorders than NAMs and may benefits from medication for these disorders. However, if they regularly take recreational drugs as well they may be better off drug free.

    “Whites everywhere are drinking alot”

    My people the Mediterranean Southern Europeans on average do not drink as much as your people the Northern Europeans. With you being an Aussie I assume you are of British descent.

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    Latins may lag beyond Anglos, Slavs and north Europeans in alcohol comsumption, but they are still drinking more than they used to. Young French women for example are following the Anglo example and binge drinking more often, while beer drinking is increasing in Italy:

    http://www.thelocal.fr/20150401/binge-drinking-alcohol-french-young-people

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122842679622780557
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  34. @Maj. Kong
    The theory of La Raza Cosmica maintains that Mexicans are actually Indians with a right to disregard borders in the Western Hemisphere.

    The average reservation Indian is dependent on government largess, or a state-protected casino. Sticking it to whitey via immigration will presumably increase the likelihood of future socialism. The casino barons certainly welcome more gambling happy Asians, a la House of Cards.

    Yeah, but still, American Indians tend to have an ornery streak that makes them look skeptically upon the SJW conventional wisdom.

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    "Yeah, but still, American Indians tend to have an ornery streak that makes them look skeptically upon the SJW conventional wisdom."

    Didn't Republicans win the Non Hispanic Native American vote in the 2014 midterm election?
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  35. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Maj. Kong
    The theory of La Raza Cosmica maintains that Mexicans are actually Indians with a right to disregard borders in the Western Hemisphere.

    The average reservation Indian is dependent on government largess, or a state-protected casino. Sticking it to whitey via immigration will presumably increase the likelihood of future socialism. The casino barons certainly welcome more gambling happy Asians, a la House of Cards.

    The media covered up what happened in white blue collar areas since the start of mass immigration and off-shoring.

    Anyone who knows what happened knows the people in those areas started self-medicating to escape.

    Diversity kills.

    All those Reaganites / Thatcherites who were cheer leaders at the time cos they were anti-union can look forward to exactly the same thing that was done to the blue collar people being done to them and their family.

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  36. @Jefferson
    "Whites everywhere are drinking alot"

    My people the Mediterranean Southern Europeans on average do not drink as much as your people the Northern Europeans. With you being an Aussie I assume you are of British descent.

    Latins may lag beyond Anglos, Slavs and north Europeans in alcohol comsumption, but they are still drinking more than they used to. Young French women for example are following the Anglo example and binge drinking more often, while beer drinking is increasing in Italy:

    http://www.thelocal.fr/20150401/binge-drinking-alcohol-french-young-people

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122842679622780557

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  37. @Robert Hume
    Very possibly opiate overdose. But what causes them to overdose on opium? Possibly anomie from diversity?

    what causes them to overdose on opium?

    It goes without saying, so I’ll go ahead and say it..

    What, exactly, do we have to live for? The next season of Walking Dead? Our job prospects are dismal unless we have very specialized experience in data center operations or writing algorithms. The factories are all gone. Service jobs demand “bi-lingual” workers. We don’t have kids because who the hell would put their own kid through this crap? We started off as little kids being terrorized by evil Russians and were taught to cower under our desks as if our desk was nuke-proof. Told that any second we could be annihilated, who cared? Then we were told we would become a minority in the land our fathers had built. So why would we put in any effort? Then we learned we were all evil racists even if we had never seen a negro. After that we were told we hated women and queers. We had job opportunities and school opportunities given to people hopelessly less qualified because we were the wrong color or sex. And then, if we did everything right, built a company and created jobs, paid huge sums in taxes, our wives took everything and left us homeless with the assistance of a lawyer we paid for and a family court judge we also paid for. So. Why bother? The game has been rigged against us all our lives. We have NEVER mattered nor had ANY say in our fate.

    That’s why.

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  38. @(((Owen)))
    I doubt it's meth. Meth usually is a substitute for cocaine which is somewhat more addictive and lots more likely to kill with acute cardiac conditions. Heroin, on the other hand, is usually a substitute for synthetic codeines (oxy, tylenol-III, and the like) and while heroin isn't more deadly than those when it's pure and administered carefully, it's rarely pure and administered carefully.

    I'd note that death rates for ages 5-40 are pretty small and even tiny fluctuations can be a large percentage of such a small number. I'd bet on something that made a small change in the top causes of death for the age group: car crashes, suicides, military conflict, and paramilitary (gang) conflict.

    So maybe meth keep people up late driving and gets them in crashes or maybe a terrorist attack and neocon warmongers get them volunteering for futile foreign wars based on lies that lead to injuries, chronic pain, opium, and suicides.

    while heroin isn’t more deadly than those when it’s pure and administered carefully, it’s rarely pure and administered carefully.

    Fentanyl. Too strong for any pill form, it’s administered as surgical anesthesia and in transdermal patches to chronic pain patients. Those patches are cut open and the Fentanyl mixed with heroin or dosed directly. A TINY amount is fatal. It’s something like 50 times stronger than morphine.

    Oxycodone. Hillbilly heroin. Around ten times stronger than morphine. Before reform a couple years ago Florida doctors wrote enough scripts to supply everyone in the state with a couple pills a day. Bus loads of “pain patients” would travel down from Ohio, WV, TN, etc. After the reform these folks didn’t quit – they just switched to Heroin laced with Fentanyl.

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    My recollection was off a bit. Fentanyl is reported to be 80-100 times stronger than morphine (!!!) and OxyContin is 1.5-2 times stronger.

    Fentanyl is pretty terrifying when you consider just a milligram or two could kill and it's being blended with street heroin by amateurs or junkies.
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  39. @Steve Sailer
    Yeah, but still, American Indians tend to have an ornery streak that makes them look skeptically upon the SJW conventional wisdom.

    “Yeah, but still, American Indians tend to have an ornery streak that makes them look skeptically upon the SJW conventional wisdom.”

    Didn’t Republicans win the Non Hispanic Native American vote in the 2014 midterm election?

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  40. Cultural shift in perception of alcohol consumption is playing a part as well. Back in the early 1980s, American culture shifted conservative in perception of alcohol; drinking age was raised nationally to 21, MADD was ascendant (backlash against the alcohol driving death surge of the 1970s). This paralleled my personal experience after I went on Army active duty; the Army Chief of Staff stopped all the Happy Hour activities on Army installations, which started the slow death of the Army’s club system (back then each rank group had its own club: Enlisted, NCO, Officer). This continued into the mid-1990s. Then came the explosion in microbreweries and the rise of hipster beer culture, which continues into today. Couple that with the explosion in spirits/distilleries in US/Europe/Japan over the last 20 years as well, and alcohol consumption is suddenly cool and hip again. Wouldn’t be surprised if that, along with the consumption of easily obtained prescription/elicit opiates (call it a synergistic effect), is contributing to this rise in death rates among all the white cohorts you’ve been discussing lately.

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  41. @Stan d Mute

    while heroin isn’t more deadly than those when it’s pure and administered carefully, it’s rarely pure and administered carefully.
     
    Fentanyl. Too strong for any pill form, it's administered as surgical anesthesia and in transdermal patches to chronic pain patients. Those patches are cut open and the Fentanyl mixed with heroin or dosed directly. A TINY amount is fatal. It's something like 50 times stronger than morphine.

    Oxycodone. Hillbilly heroin. Around ten times stronger than morphine. Before reform a couple years ago Florida doctors wrote enough scripts to supply everyone in the state with a couple pills a day. Bus loads of "pain patients" would travel down from Ohio, WV, TN, etc. After the reform these folks didn't quit - they just switched to Heroin laced with Fentanyl.

    My recollection was off a bit. Fentanyl is reported to be 80-100 times stronger than morphine (!!!) and OxyContin is 1.5-2 times stronger.

    Fentanyl is pretty terrifying when you consider just a milligram or two could kill and it’s being blended with street heroin by amateurs or junkies.

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