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From The Tablet:

THE AMERICAN JEWISH AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ABOUT-FACE
Why major Jewish organizations switched sides in the affirmative action debate

By Jacob Scheer
July 31, 2018 • 9:30 PM

Affirmative action in higher education is arguably the most contentious political and social issue of the last half-century. … In recent Supreme Court cases such as Grutter v. Bollinger (2003), Gratz v. Bollinger (2003), Fisher v. Texas (2012) and Schuette v. BAMN (2013), Jewish organizations led by the “big three”—the Anti-Defamation League, the American Jewish Congress, and the American Jewish Committee—submitted legal briefs defending race-conscious university admissions policies on the grounds that diversity is a compelling state interest. Although this may seem like a given considering the liberal bent of many if not most American Jews, the Jewish stance on affirmative action has not always been supportive. In 1978, when the Regents v. Bakke case first successfully challenged affirmative action at the Supreme Court level, the big three American Jewish organizations all submitted amicus curiae briefs opposing affirmative action admissions policies in support of Bakke.

… A better explanation seems to lie in Jewish accumulation of status and political power, as well as the rapidly expanding presence of high-achieving Asian-American students in academia. …

Jewish organizations expressed a particular concern about racial quotas because prior to World War II numerus clausus quotas were used to limit the number of Jews in universities and other professions. After a prolonged struggle spearheaded by the “big three,” nearly all institutions of higher learning and professional schools abandoned their Jewish quotas by the 1960s. The re-emergence of quotas as a policy to aid disadvantaged groups was seen as a threat to the achievement-based society in which the Jews had become “one of America’s most successful ethnic groups with the nation’s highest per capita income and high representation in legal, technocratic and academic professions.” …

Statements by Jewish organizational leaders bespeak an attitude shift from staunch opposition to comfortable acceptance of race-based affirmative action, independent of the factual or legal differences in the two cases. This change can be observed most acutely in statements made by Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, who served as council to the AJCommittee in crafting their amicus briefs in 1977 and in 2003, and whose positions on affirmative action and college admissions have undergone a very clear transformation in the years between Bakke and Bollinger. …

Yet Dershowitz’s formerly vociferous censure of race-conscious affirmative action gave way to a quiet acceptance of the practice 25 years later. In the Washington Post, he admitted that “his own opposition to race-conscious admissions has dissipated because his experience teaching law in racially diverse classrooms has convinced him that “affirmative action works.” Whether or not this is true, Dershowitz goes on to explain that Jews in general are not as opposed to affirmative action as they once were because in 1977:

we feared that our hard-earned right to be admitted on the merits would be taken away. The WASP quotient would be held constant, and the Jews and African-Americans would be left to fight over the crumbs. … What happened is that Jews have become the WASPs. They are among the dominant groups on campus, in terms of numbers.

Jews used to have more of the kind of jobs that are most vulnerable to affirmative action. Mark Zuckerberg’s paternal grandfather worked in the Post Office, for example.

Others ran candy shops and liquor stores in the slums where police protection could be a life or death question. A lot of the domestic neoconservatives of the 1970s were Jewish intellectuals who listened to their relatives’ complaints.

… These statements show that factors having to do with Jews’ status in society and not a principled legal argument may underlie the communal shift on affirmative action.

Dershowitz left out an important corollary to his observation that Jews have become America’s new WASP elites, namely that Asians have become the new Jews.

It is no longer true as it once may have been that Jews, as a people, have more drive, more fortitude than others. Even in my 30-plus years of teaching at Harvard, I have seen a significant change: Jewish students are simply not as outstanding as they once seemed to be. …

… Were affirmative action to be repealed in the near future, the main beneficiaries would be Asian-Americans.

When affirmative action again reached the Supreme Court again in 2012 (Fischer v. Texas) and 2013 (Schuette v. BAMN), Jewish communal organizations spoke with one voice, in favor of preserving affirmative action in higher education. …

The explanation put forward by this article is that Jews have become America’s WASPs. They back the current system of affirmative action because it protects their self-interest as a group with outsize political and social influence. As leaders in the political arena, Jews have an image to maintain as upholders of liberal values like diversity, racial equality, and affirmative action. At the same time, Jewish overrepresentation within the Ivy League can be attributed in part to the opaque admissions programs that at once benefit certain minorities like African-Americans, but hurt other such as Asians. Many find this reminiscent of the numerus clausus that barred Jews from entering these same institutions just a century ago.

 
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  1. eah says:

    • Agree: utu
  2. J.Ross says: • Website

    Undisguised racism is okay once you have power and enough brazenness, for example, check out (while you still can) the tweets of the newest addition to the New York Times editorial page:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/993958596311330817

    https://www.nytco.com/sarah-jeong-joins-the-timess-editorial-board/

    Twitter is becoming increasingly difficult to use and it’s not letting me link the woke-to-Yakub one about how white folks are subterranean goblins. But it sure would be awful if some irresponsible Russian hacker edited it so it looked like Mz Jeong was calling Jews a race of subterranean goblins.

  3. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course such an article can only be written by a Jew, anyone else would be called out as an anti-semite and forever ostracized. Still, I am glad it was written. It shows that not all Jews are clannish greedy bastards, some are still fair minded and honest.

    All these affirmative action lawsuits affirm only one thing, that the judiciary in America has far too much power. Rule of law has been replaced by rule of lawyers. Something like AA should be a direct referendum on the voting ballot, allowing citizens to have a direct say in how we want to treat AA, not determined by a bunch of lawyers, high minded academics and 9 judges.

    The fairest way in the end is to do away with the opaque holistic admission as well as the law that prohibits racial quotas, and instead go strictly by racial quotas. Every university that wishes to use race as a criteria for admission must admit each group based on their share in the general population, as such, Harvard’s demographic will be just like the demographic of the country, i.e.
    - 2% Jew
    - 1% Muslim
    - 13% black
    - 16% hispanic
    - 6% Asian
    - 62% non-hispanic, non-Jewish, non-Muslim white

    Then within each subgroup, admit strictly by merit, i.e. test scores and grades. Each racial group only competes with those within their own subgroup. Mixed-race people can choose which subgroup they wish to compete in. This to me is the fairest admission system.

    • Replies: @Ian M.
    , @WowJustWow
  4. Say that looks like fun. I should do the same thing here about about-faces.

    For example, look what happens when I put ‘Idiocracy’ in the iSteve’s search engine:

    http://www.unz.com/?s=idiocracy&Action=Search&authors=steve-sailer&=&=&ptype=isteve&=&=&=&paged=1

    But since the magic date of Nov 8 2016, just 1 lonely mention of Idiocracy. It seems since that date Steve has changed his mind. ‘When the facts change my mind changes. What does yours do’, or something like that.

  5. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    New York Times: Anti-White Racism

    Can’t imagine there are any subscribers here, but I’m not clicking on a single one of their links ever again.

    And no GOP politician should ever be in contact with this worthless organization.

    Sarah Jeong, get the hell out of the US. You will never have to deal with a single white conservative when you are back home in Pyongyang.

  6. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Many find this reminiscent of the numerus clausus that barred Jews from entering these same institutions just a century ago.

    In the most famous of many self-styled exposés of this infamous quota system, Jerome Karabel shows that Harvard’s Jewish population was around 30% by 1925, somewhat giving the lie to this article’s Hollywood version of HYP’s traditional ‘WASP exclusivity’ in the early 20th Century (See ‘The Chosen’, p.105). As another among many such examples, Karabel notes that over 1200 Jews entered Yale during the period between 1900 and 1930, when anti-semitism was allegedly rife (p.55). (Among many other campus leaders, Milton Winternitz led the Yale Medical School as its dean from 1920 to 1935.)

    Ron Unz’s somewhat daring essay entitled “The Myth of American Meritocracy” (to which Mr Unz, to his credit, has appended several substantial corrections, adjustments, and elaborations) did point to the possibility of there being an unofficial ‘Asian Quota’ in place among America’s foremost institutions of higher learning in our own day, but along many of the same terms. That is: there would likely be more Asians admitted if we only considered GPAs and test scores. Should we then? Perhaps, perhaps not. There are (still) many worthy qualities potential in a person besides grades and test scores. Is this prima facie evidence of anti-Asian racism? Hardly–no more than it was evidence of anti-semitism several generations ago.

    What Unz *does* show, quite conclusively, is that Ivy League adcoms nowadays select in favor of Jewish students to an astonishing degree, despite their (relatively but seriously) declining academic credentials. A few relevant excerpts:

    “Indeed, the official statistics indicate that non-Jewish whites at Harvard are America’s most under-represented population group, enrolled at a much lower fraction of their national population than blacks or Hispanics, despite having far higher academic test scores.”

    “As a consequence, Asians appear under-represented relative to Jews by a factor of seven, while non-Jewish whites are by far the most under-represented group of all, despite any benefits they might receive from athletic, legacy, or geographical distribution factors. The rest of the Ivy League tends to follow a similar pattern, with the overall Jewish ratio being 381 percent, the Asian figure at 62 percent, and the ratio for non-Jewish whites a low 35 percent, all relative to their number of high-ability college-age students…

    “Between 2000 and 2011, the relative percentage of college-age blacks enrolled at Harvard dropped by 18 percent, along with declines of 13 percent for Asians and 11 percent for Hispanics, while only whites increased, expanding their relative enrollment by 16 percent. However, this is merely an optical illusion: in fact, the figure for non-Jewish whites slightly declined, while the relative enrollment of Jews increased by over 35 percent, probably reaching the highest level in Harvard’s entire history. Thus, the relative presence of Jews rose sharply while that of all other groups declined, and this occurred during exactly the period when the once-remarkable academic performance of Jewish high school students seemed to suddenly collapse.”

  7. @anony-mouse

    Ooops. My bad, a grand total of 2! Still…

  8. Tablet, the Forward, Times of Israel…

    Steve reads so many Jewish newspapers he could be a character in a Malamud novel.

    In another life, he could have been the kid in A Serious Man, listening to the Airplane on his transistor when he’s supposed to be studying Torah. Of course J Pod is the fat kid who wants his weed money.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Clifford Brown
  9. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:

    Jews want more URMs (Under Represented Minorities a.k.a. blacks/hispanics/native Americans) in elite schools because they are not real competition. They are there to occupy the wrong end of the curve so Jews can graduate with their easy A’s.

    Now come the hardworking overachieving new greasy grind ORMs (Over Represented Minorities a.k.a. Asians) to screw it all up. They’re making it much harder for Jews who are now fat and lazy like the WASPs they replaced to get their easy A’s. So of course you can bet your ass they’re going to defend their beloved URMs to the death.

  10. Dan Hayes says:

    Steve:

    This article is a striking confirmation of what Ron, the proprietor of UR, has been saying for many years: the recent faltering of Jewish academic achievements and the onrushing dominance of Asians. Only a Jewish publication such as The Tablet feels free/unconstrained to point out their coreligionist’s naked defense of the status quo to preserve its power. The utterances of Counselor Dershowitz are especially confirmatory/damming in this regard.

    BTW, while not a regular Tablet reader I am struck by its “let it all hang out” stance regarding Jewish actions.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
  11. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    What would it be like if we all deleted Facebook?

    What would it be like if we all cancelled our NY Times subscriptions, Sarah?

  12. Thomas says:

    Steve, you’ve mused before I think that Ashkenazi Jews may have peaked and may be slowly trending downwards in achievement. They have to compete with Asians. It’s fair to say that among the white proportion of student bodies at elite universities, a significant proportion are Jewish.

    • Replies: @gneisenau
  13. @J.Ross

    In thirty years her dissolute daughter Erica Jeong will write Fear of Frying.

    Now, I’m not up on young Asian-American contemporary slang. Is “Eat a butt” a tobacco reference, or something gluteal?

    And China’s giving students a “social credit score”– is that to ease their relocation to Western Canada?

    • Replies: @Lot
  14. Lot says:

    Starbucks guy looks like he may run as a corporate centrist (by 2018 Dem standards) in the Dem 2020 primary. Bloomberg or Zuck could too.

    Article on McCain’s chief strategist talking him up.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/01/schmidts-break-from-the-gop-the-talk-of-dc-753107

    We saw with Trump that the GOP-donor class favorites were all so close in their views, leaving him a big opening to himself.

    At this point, the Dems are the same, with 17 candidates, all SJWs, all for more socialized medicine. Only a self made billionaire like these guys has the money to bypass the Dem establishment.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  15. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:

    If the Jews don’t want Asians to take over our elite universities and knock them off their perch of elitism, they should perhaps think about restricting Asian immigration in the first place. Eliminate the H1b, Eb5, OPT, chain migration and birthright citizenship, and Asian immigration would plummet, followed by Asian application to our top colleges. But if they are going to let them in so easily via all these immigration schemes, then don’t complain about them taking over our universities. It’s what they asked for by pushing for open borders.

    The blacks and browns are no threats to the Jews due to their lower IQ, but the Asians will be the biggest threat to Jewish dominance in the US, esp. the Indians who are as clannish and power hungry as the Jews, and there are a lot more of them. There are 4 billion Asians, 2.5 billion in China and India alone, and only 6.4 million Jews in the US.

    • Replies: @Karl
    , @Anonymous
  16. anon[693] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Happy Earth Overshoot Day, everyone! https://qz.com/1345205/humans-have-depleted-the-earths-natural-resources-with-five-months-still-to-go-in-2018/

    Now taking bets as to whether The World’s Most Important Graph will make an appearance in any analyses…

  17. Lot says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Alberta and Quebec have very interesting political histories.

  18. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    Milton Winternitz led the Yale Medical School as its dean from 1920 to 1935

    Winternitz was a self hating Jew. John Cheever, married his daughter Mary, whose grandfather was Watson as in “Mr. Watson — Come here — I want you.” (i.e. he co-invented the telephone).

    Winternitz issued the following directive when he was the dean of Yale:

    “Never admit more than five Jews, take only two Italian Catholics, and no blacks at all.”

    http://www.einstein.yu.edu/features/stories/815/museum-exhibit-details-the-jewish-encounter-with-modern-medicine/

  19. J.Ross says: • Website

    OT Brazilian stereotypes > mathematics
    The Fields medal, one of the few Great Public Awards to actually mean something in an age of participation trophies and political slime, has been awarded to a Brazilian. Unfortunately, he lives in Brazil, so the medal was almost immediately stolen. Don’t worry, though: the thief was not injured or frightened by any stand-your-ground nonsense.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ICM_2018/status/1024716013433180161

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  20. @Lot

    Yeah, but he’s gonna need their insane raving anarchy votes to get through the primary.

    That’s the problem facing any Dem now – you can’t “triangulate” abolish ICE, or medicare for all, or open borders from the primary to the general.

    • Replies: @27 year old
  21. @J.Ross

    Actually, they were holding the ceremony in Brazil. The poor guy who got his Fields Medal stolen, Cauchar Birkar, is a Kurd who lives in Britain.

  22. Lot says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The British right are really hitting the left hard on Corbyn’s antisemitism.

    https://www.express.co.uk/search?s=Labour+antisemitism&o=20

    Look at the sheer number of articles on it from Britain’s best right-wing newspaper.

    Labour only got 17% of the Jewish vote last round, could get even worse in the next round of elections.

  23. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Jews are now the biggest beneficiaries of legacy admissions. AA is their kickback, throw a few bones to the blacks and browns to make themselves look benevolent, after all they are no threats.

  24. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer

    And immediately below the apology for disappearing the briefcase is this tweet:

    Dr Sabetta Matsumoto

    7h
    Replying to @ICM_2018 and @numberphile
    Congrats to the (white) Fields Men-dals winners. Can’t wait to see who the best white men of math are in four more years. #sexism #embarrassing #diversitymatters

    Do Kurds count as white? If the Americans were bombing them, no, but for this purpose, yes.

  25. If Jewish Whites were categorized separately from Gentile Whites, they would be against quotas again. They would have to give up some of those White slots they disappear into whenever anybody writes about this stuff.

    A people who see and serve themselves as distinct and are only 2% or 3% of the citizenry would definitely lose out if they could not piggy back on the 60% majority or whatever. And if they want to continue to be considered part of that majority — and enjoy the benefits therein — they should act like it politically and in whatever ways beneficial to that majority and not just ask “Is it good for our 2%?”

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  26. Here’s the newest member of the NYT editorial board.

    Needless to say, this is as good a reason as any why we need explicitly white organisations. It’s also a strong reminder that hatred against whites is normalised in US discourse. Would anyone seriously think that a jewish-owned newspaper like the NYT would accept someone who spoke like this about jews? Or even a non-jewish owned newspaper like WaPo?

    Remember, jews are supposedly white in the US census but their primary identity is not white, so they don’t care about this rhetoric. It doesn’t concern them. That’s why they will hire virulent bigots like her.

  27. @Jack D

    Sounds like old Milton wasn’t just self-hating, he hated all sorts of people.

  28. @Lot

    Same thing in France, even FN gets Jewish votes now. Corbyn doesn’t give a stuff, he knows where his votes come from.

    Not for nothing, I saw the Pal flags on the floor of the Dem convention in Philly. If it wasn’t for the fundraising, Dems would be looking to trade in the Jews for our emerging Muslim minority by now.

    Who will be America’s Sadiq Khan? Not the guy running in Michigan, not yet anyway. Probably someplace like Seattle or Portland or Austin, where he or she can cash in on white libs virtue signaling. Maybe a hijabi.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Menschmaschine
  29. trelane says:

    As an extreme supporter of affirmative action I support the idea that we exile intelligent whites to Montana and give their professional positions to Amerindian peasants from the Chiapas state in southern Mexico on the border with Guatemala.

  30. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:

    Affirmative Action is just another form of socialism, filtered through a race lens. The end result is the same, robbing Peter to pay Paul, in this case robbing from smart middle class whites and Asians to pay the Jews and their protectorates a.k.a. the blacks and browns.

  31. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Tablet, the Forward, Times of Israel…

    The failure to retain a second language, whether Yiddish or Hebrew, was a critical strategic error.

    A sign of decadence and complacency.

  32. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thulean Friend

    I thought you were joking about her joining the NYT, it’s actually real news.

    The Times has sunk to a new low in journalistic integrity.

  33. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Seattle has a white lesbian mayor (who replaced a gay white male former mayor ousted on pedophilia charges), a black female police chief, and an Indian born female house representative to Congress.

    A Muslim woman elected official can’t be far behind, preferably one who wears a burqa so no one even know what she looks like. There are a lot of Minnesota transplants here, who keep pressing for more of their beloved Somali refugees to be settled here.

  34. Karl says:
    @anon

    14 [179] > There are 4 billion Asians

    and none of them could write/direct/produce a “Curb Your Enthusiasm”

    I do agree with the other thrusts of your post

  35. Those “big three” Jewish organizations have made other turnarounds since 1978. They’ve lost their way and their minds. In 1978 they were concerned with getting Jews out of the USSR. Today they’re gung-ho on bringing Muslims over to the US.

  36. @Anon

    oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men

    Me cruerest mistress West Side. You pay me I make you suffa! Satisfactory guarantee!

    • LOL: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Mr. Anon
  37. Jack D says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Sarah, I love it when you talk dirty. Call me a groveling goblin again and make me grovel. And a dog. What was it that you say dogs do? You can be cruel to me any time.

  38. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Winternitz was a self hating Jew.

    I wonder if that memo was legit? Odds are against it, but who knows. Notwithstanding that, in typical fashion the NYT has elevated it, saying it was no less than “Yale’s mantra at the time.” Thus are ‘facts’ born.

    Woody Allen: “I may hate myself, but it’s not because I’m Jewish.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  39. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    There are 4 billion Asians, 2.5 billion in China and India alone, and only 6.4 million Jews in the US.

    True enough, but just three or four rich Jews have more money than about 3 billion of those Asians.

  40. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Good God, the story that has just about everything.
    PS the guy looks pretty damned white.
    Apologies to SJWs everywhere.

  41. @J.Ross

    Sarah Jeong is a magenta haired TED talker type who wrote for Vice. Now she contributes to the New York Times Editorial Page.

    HOW IS THIS REAL?

  42. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Chris Rock used to have a bit about affirmative action, the gist of which was that if 2 candidates were equally qualified, he thought the black one should get the gig.

    If course, that’s almost never the case with NAM applicants, but when it comes to Asians, Jews, and gentile whites with Harvard-level SATs, there’s probably little material difference in quality down the road academically or professionally. The strongest moral case against affirmative action is not what happens to the applicants, but what happens to the people whose lives are in their hands later: the patients of the affirmative action physician, the pedestrians walking across the bridge designed by affirmative action engineers, the Australian lady shot dead by the affirmative action cop, etc.

    Jews, and everyone else, ought to oppose affirmative action for that reason. Then we can have a discussion about what quotas, if any, a partially government-funded institution like Harvard ought to have for undergrads.

  43. @anony-mouse

    But comparisons of the Trump presidency with the one shown in Idiocracy are not particularly worthwhile. Trump is not like President Camacho. He’s his own thing.

  44. njguy73 says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Breaking Bad and Battlestar Galactica are, in her words, about white people being miserable.

    You’d think she’d love watching them.

  45. @Jack D

    Do Kurds count as white?

    Only in kurds and whey.

  46. @Thulean Friend

    Those comments are horrific and make Richard Spencer seem comparatively erudite.

    The most charitable interpretation is that the NYT failed to do a background check.

    The more realistic one is that her comments fit nicely with an anti-Gentile narrative.

    I won’t hold my breath for the SPLC and other Jewish-backed groups to condemn this.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  47. @Jack D

    Call me a groveling goblin again and make me grovel. And a dog. What was it that you say dogs do?

    No, whatever you do, do not do the dog with a Korean.

  48. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks, I was eating my dinner :(

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  49. @Anon

    Seems there’s an uptick in Jewish-promoted outspoken white-hating Korean broads lately… There’s the aforementioned Jeong, and Dorothy Kim, and Yung In Chae (#166), who was previously noted by Steve.

    Dorothy Kim-quoting article in the Daily Beast warning about people who believe Medieval Europe was white:

    The Alt-Right is Taking Over Renaissance Fairs

  50. @Anonymous

    Anonymous[337]:

    That is: there would likely be more Asians admitted if we only considered GPAs and test scores. Should we then? Perhaps, perhaps not. There are (still) many worthy qualities potential in a person besides grades and test scores.

    Have you talked with any college admissions officers recently? In the last few years, I have talked to quite a few.

    They’ll tell you that they simply cannot spend much time on each individual application, so you need to grab their attention fast with some good story (and they make clear that “My family came over from China dirt-poor and now own a restaurant” does not count as a good story!). And they do essentially zero fact-checking to see if you are lying about your heart-breaking life experiences.

    So, what works is being the right ethnic group and doing some nice SJW posturing.

    Yes, admitting the next Mother Teresa along with the next James Watson might be a good idea. But Mother Teresa would not be good enough at self-promotion to get in. The ones who do get in are the con artists.

    The admissions officers will tell you that they do try to detect the con artists, but that they just do not have enough time. Harvard, Princeton, Yale, and Stanford — where our students are the stellar con artists in the country!

    (Full disclosure: I did my Ph.D. at Stanford, and one of my brothers did his BA at Stanford, the other at Harvard — I know, alas, whereof I speak.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Pericles
    , @anon
  51. @Reg Cæsar

    Mmmm, honeydew claws. Or is it honey dewclaws.

  52. istevefan says:
    @Surprisingly Offended

    The most charitable interpretation is that the NYT failed to do a background check

    Recall the NYT hired Razib Khan and then fired him the same day after protesters informed them he wrote at unz.com.

    Maybe they will dump her as soon as they learn of these tweets. Then again maybe they won’t.

    If so Trump should mention it to help drive home the message the media/dems are anti-white. We need to separate the dems from the large cohort of whites still asleep and voting for them.

    • Replies: @Flip
    , @Flip
    , @anon
    , @Harry Baldwin
  53. @Jack D

    Judging from our past debates, I always knew you were a masochist. ;)

  54. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @eah

    There were affirmative action quotas in the 70s, 80s and 90s when it was believed to harm the prospects of Jewish students in aggregate.

    As of 2003, such programmes were believed to now be neutral or even somehow aid the median Jewish student, and (so?) the Supreme Court promptly struck them down.

    Some mega-powerful Jewish lobby you guys must have…

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  55. Jewish students are simply not as outstanding as they once seemed to be.

    Miscegenation. Many more of today’s Jewish student’s are half-breeds.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  56. @Anon

    oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men

    It is, Miss Jeong, it is. But there are sicker people, like the old whites who tolerate being berated by you and the young whites who think your sickness is the peak of morality.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2, Harry Baldwin
  57. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anon

    Black people wouldn’t suscribe to an organisation where one of the journalists so clearly states that she hates black people.

    Women mostly subscribe to an organisation where one of the journalists so clearly states that she hates women.

    Yet white people and men not only put up with it but often venerate it.

    Many of the latter two groups are in an abusive relationship with the media. It is time to lay down some boundaries.

    They need to be made in personal interactions. They also need to be broadcast back to the media and much of academia.

    Unfortunately, the broadcasting bit is easier said than done.

  58. @Steve Sailer

    Then Ross’s comment gets even funnier, because “tourist gets mugged” is even more stereotypically Brazilian.

  59. Tyrion 2 says:

    I don’t get why the American people don’t demand that the top universities stop acting so precious. That is, why aren’t you guys demanding that they expand their enrollment?

    Harvard should be taking 20 times the number of students. This is what happened with Oxford and Cambridge. They grew as the number of applicants grew.

    Then again, since all of the inportant people of all ethnicities seem to have gone there, I suppose the important people wouldn’t want that. It goes against their group interests as it would diminish their equity.

    Then again again, those people seem all too happy to go against the interests of the rest of you and diminish your equity in the American nation by importing a gazillion randomners from around the world.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Tyrion 2
  60. @Jack D

    I’m always amazed by how petty and ignorant progressive activists are. She seems to genuinely have no idea that mathematical prizes are not like media awards.

  61. NickG says:
    @Lot

    Labour only got 17% of the Jewish vote last round, could get even worse in the next round of elections.

    There are only 300,000 Jews in the UK whereas there are now over 4 million Muslims, a ratio of 1:13. Jew hatred amongst Muslims is beyond endemic; it is close to ubiquitous. Most Muslims vote Labour.

    In the UK, Jewish political influence, at least via the ballot box, is minimal.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Mr. Anon
  62. @eah

    “In 1978, when American Jews excelled academically, it was their collective socioeconomic interest to oppose nonmeritocratic quotas, whereas after 2003 when Asians [outperform them] Jews benefit from quota-like admissions policies.”

    This strikes me as “duh” territory.

    Jews historically oppose quotas. Quotas can be used by the powers that be–or just a nation’s majority population–to limit Jews’ access and influence.

    But now Jews are “the powers that be”. So putting quotas on competing groups–Asians, whites–while doling out goodies to minority allies to keep the minoritarian project going strong is just fine.

    If whites or Asians somehow wiggled back into control–or down the road some bizarre coalition of the diverse–and started slapping quotas around–say “everyone to their population share”–the Jews would change their tune again.

    Deep principles are not–were never–in play here. People like being in power.

  63. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anonymous

    Unz estimates the number of Jewish students that there should be by a surname analysis of National Merit results.

    He then estimates the number of Jews at Harvard by using the Hillel House figures, given without methodology.

    This should be a red flag. He uses the results of two very different methodologies in a direct comparison.

    Indeed, once you apply the first methodology to the second problem and then make the comparison, the effect disappears, even going slightly into reverse.

    Unz refuses to acknowledge this outright rebuttal of his work despite its straightforwardness. The only defence I’ve seen him make so far is that the mass media are happy to go along with him, which is a defence so ironic that I can’t believe he is serious.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @utu
  64. Flip says:
    @istevefan

    This is good. It makes it clear what side the NYT is on.

  65. @Lot

    Labour only got 17% of the Jewish vote last round, could get even worse in the next round of elections.

    Is that a positive?

    I realize British Jews aren’t necessarily American Jews, but all I see from “Jews on the right” is a corruption of the right. A “right” that is required to be for!, rather than against, the destruction of the nation. Aren’t “conservatives” supposed to actually conserve stuff–the important “stuff” being the people and culture of the nation?

    I’m all for Steve’s project of trying to get the more manly Jews to wake up and think “hey, yeah, we’re Americans, America has been good to us, let’s fight to preserve it, not turn it into globoslum.” You get the occasional patriot like Steven Miller–great.

    But that’s not what you generally get from “right wing” Jews. What you get is a corrupted, useless right that actually doesn’t fight for the nation, but just helps some rich Jews make more money and pay less taxes while the nation is destroyed. Great.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @Jack D
    , @Redman
  66. Twinkie says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    an uptick in Jewish-promoted outspoken white-hating Korean broads

    They are recruiting for girlfriends, wives, daughters-in-law?

  67. @Thulean Friend

    If these tweets are real, and are really by her, then I think the NYT can be shamed into cancelling her hiring. They are so blatant. I tried looking them up on her Twitter page, but I don’t know how to search for a specific tweet way back in 2014.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  68. Twinkie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “Oh, so sorry. Your doggie not make it.”

  69. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Of course there are con artists–as in any other pursuit–and this is one reason why we look for corroborating evidence. There are recommendations, often from people we know, and there are external validations such as awards, news articles; various other accomplishments which can’t easily be faked. It’s a commonplace that adcoms are overworked but the one I served on spent a tremendous amount of time with every single viable application. Each was reviewed at least three times (by three different people) before the adcom even met. That said, my personal experience isn’t wholly relevant because it was at the graduate level.

    One thing that might be relevant is that I led the charge for being skeptical of self-reported narratives, and others weren’t always on board. People like stories that tell them what they want to hear, alas. IME, however, the ‘stories’ never made the difference between admit and reject. However again, I admit that my experience is from another time and place.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @PhysicistDave
  70. @Anonymous

    The best thing that could happen relative to Harvard is for it to go away.

    Harvard is negative for–an enemy of–the nation. And hasn’t been any sort of boon to America in 100+ years, with land grant state Us up and running across the fruited plain. All it serves now is status competition and the even more negative aspect of letting them to choose and indoctrinate the American elite.

    Furthermore we don’t even need the massive undergrad college apparatus in the Internet age. Encourage people to study however they like and have a testing regime where they can prove what they know and how well they can think. Employers can hire with that data–driven off what people actually know–not based on which smart HS students preened as the best SJWs and wrote the cheesiest essays.

    If the government can dictate Harvard’s admissions policies, couldn’t we have it just … shut Harvard down?

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Jack D
    , @anon
  71. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Roderick Spode

    I must needs introduce you to the Satmar sect in New York. Inter alia…

  72. Twinkie says:

    Dershowitz left out an important corollary to his observation that Jews have become America’s new WASP elites, namely that Asians have become the new Jews.

    Still obfuscating. What happened to the old “WASPs” then?

    Yes, Jews are the elite Establishment today, but it’s not just the Asians who are the new Jews (who were not legally underprivileged in the real past as opposed to this mythical past of pogroms in America), non-Jewish whites are also the new Jews!

    People (including here) keep talking about Asians being “oppressed” under the status quo according to Ron Unz’s meritocracy article, but they seem to keep forgetting that Mr. Unz’s article revealed non-Jewish whites, especially those of modest economic means from the inner states, are also significantly disadvantaged.

    It’s as if the talking point now is, “It’s okay to admit that we screw Asians. They are politically weak and we can paint them as undeserving aliens anyway. Nobody will care. But no one must mention that we screw non-Jewish whites.”

    • Agree: Desiderius
  73. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I don’t get why the American people don’t demand that the top universities stop acting so precious. That is, why aren’t you guys demanding that they expand their enrollment?

    FWIW, Yale increased its undergraduate enrollment dramatically last year by creating two new residential colleges, one (naturally) named after a random black woman they found and the other (not so naturally) named after some Penn guy named B. Franklin. The benefactor (Chas Johnson) liked Mr Franklin you see.

    https://news.yale.edu/2017/08/23/first-students-be-welcomed-two-new-residential-colleges-week

    Worth noting is that by growing Yale had (or got) to admit more applicants which changed the admit rate as well as the yield curve, both of which promise to negatively affect the rankings a bit.

    Anyway your point is still quite valid though I’m not sure the American people are in a position to demand any thing.

  74. @Tyrion 2

    Unz estimates the number of Jewish students that there should be by a surname analysis of National Merit results.

    He then estimates the number of Jews at Harvard by using the Hillel House figures, given without methodology.

    Agree this is a definite problem. The surname thing is useful. It would be good to check trends–declines in frequency of names for instance, adjusted for TFR data. But it’s not sufficiently accurate to count Jews.

    My good Jewish buddy in grad school had a clearly Polish place name. It wasn’t determinative, but with his first name “Murray” you’d have no doubt. But the Jewish guy i hung out the most with in undergrad–his surname “Miller”–how the heck could you pickup that? Plenty of us gentiles were millers as well.

    Since this racial/ethnic bean counting is just here, it would be good to just get all this data. Have race, ethnicity, nation of origin, religion background and practice all on the census and collect it for student bodies. We’ve got databases and the Internet, handling data isn’t a big deal. We’re going to play all these games, let’s play ‘em with good data.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Tyrion 2
    , @Jack D
    , @Ian M.
  75. Twinkie says:
    @AnotherDad

    We’re going to play all these games, let’s play ‘em with good data

    Ah, yes, but it is in the interest of those in power to make data opaque.

    • Agree: res
    • Replies: @res
  76. @Twinkie

    They are recruiting for girlfriends, wives … ?

    Maybe you’re onto something; Donna Zuckerberg’s got purple hair now. Her new book is due this fall, I look forward to Steve’s review:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  77. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Tyrion 2

    The ultimate proposal would be that anyone could take an exhaustive set of Harvard graduation exams (at cost), whether they attended or not, and they would be awarded with a standard Harvard degree for doing so.

    I see no moral reason why not.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  78. utu says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Yale University’s undergrad student body is 27 percent Jewish (1,500 Jewish undergrads out of 5,477 total). Percentage-wise, it narrowly beats out its Ivy League rival Harvard University, which is 25 percent Jewish (1,675 out of 6,694 undergrads). But Cornell University and Columbia University both have more Jews in total — 3,000 and 1,800, respectively.

    https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/The-most-heavily-Jewish-US-college-and-other-facts-about-Jews-at-American-colleges-437701

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @kaganovitch
  79. Anonymous[168] • Disclaimer says:
    @Roderick Spode

    Miscegenation. Many more of today’s Jewish student’s are half-breeds.

    Actually, it’s kind of the opposite. The “half breeds” are the better ones, and the miscegenation reflects the Jewish awareness that they need to retool and reinvigorate themselves with the blood of the best of the Gentiles in order to compete.

  80. Tyrion 2 says:
    @AnotherDad

    Since this racial/ethnic bean counting is just here, it would be good to just get all this data. Have race, ethnicity, nation of origin, religion background and practice all on the census and collect it for student bodies. We’ve got databases and the Internet, handling data isn’t a big deal. We’re going to play all these games, let’s play ‘em with good data.

    Agreed. It is kind of racist to only compare blacks with whites and not blacks of West Indian descent with whites of French descent.

    My perennial favourite is the sex disparity in incarceration rates. Is there a clearer example of “disparate impact” in America than that just 5% of prisoners are women? Or how about that despite being 15% of the population, woman over 50 are only 0.01% of arrests? Surely elderly women must be getting away with all sorts of gang-related violence.

  81. Tyrion 2 says:
    @utu

    I don’t see their stats as credible. They sound like my imaginary Aunt might when claiming that George Washington was actually Jewish.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @utu
  82. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anonymous

    Actually, it’s kind of the opposite. The “half breeds” are the better ones, and the miscegenation reflects the Jewish awareness that they need to retool and reinvigorate themselves with the blood of the best of the Gentiles in order to compete.

    You’ve just made all of that up.

  83. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    It is rather telling, that the best example of the supposed Muslim threat to Jewish dominance you were able to muster is the good establishment pet Sadiq Khan, who, for instance, obediently demands the outlawing of Hezbullah because of “antisemitism” (He does not explain how this makes sense for an organization whose membership consists of Semites. Are they “self hating” like those Jews that do not fully support every Zionist measure?)

    The pandering to the self interest of Jewish elites to stop supporting Muslim mass immigration is rather pointless. They are confident that they will be able to stay in control of their immigrant foot soldiers, including Muslims, to use them as club against the original inhabitants, but will be able to suppress any organized threat to the mandatory pro-Israel policies in Western countries (They don’t care if individual immigrants might have less than enthusiastic opinions about Jews or Israel). So far they have been proven right.

  84. Joe Walker says: • Website
    @anony-mouse

    Are you upset because Steve has once again exposed Jewish hypocrisy?

  85. Joe Walker says: • Website
    @Lot

    The British right are really hitting the left hard on Corbyn’s antisemitism.

    That sentence should read: The British right are really hitting the left hard on the myth of Corbyn’s antisemitism.

  86. @Jack Hanson

    That’s the problem facing any Dem now – you can’t “triangulate” abolish ICE, or medicare for all, or open borders from the primary to the general.

    Wanna bet?

    I bet they do exactly that. The “triangulation” runs from the above positions during primaries to “anybody but Trump” in the general.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Jack Hanson
  87. @Lot

    Labour only got 17% of the Jewish vote last round, could get even worse in the next round of elections.

    What would the Dems look like with only 17% of the jew vote?

    That’s ambitious but possible.

    Married jewish men voted for Trump almost as reliably as married Christian men.

    Few know this

    • Replies: @Jack D
  88. Pericles says:
    @PhysicistDave

    For example, one compelling story is “black lives matters” repeated 99 times.

  89. Pericles says:
    @AnotherDad

    What, you didn’t like the neoconservatives?

  90. @Tono Bungay

    Try the Advanced Twitter Search page: https://twitter.com/search-advanced

    To pick a date in 2014, click on one of the boxes on the “Dates” line, then click on the month and year listed at the top of the pop-up box. That will let you jump back by year, rather than just by month.

  91. bomag says:
    @anony-mouse

    Comparing a pop culture reference to fundamental political views? Is that the best you’ve got?

    • Replies: @anony-mouse
  92. @Buzz Mohawk

    That’s asking too much, Buzz. They are like a cat who rubs up against your leg, but then when you go to pet it, they bite and claw you. No clue as to how to preserve their traditions while still working for the good of the wider society that doesn’t insist that they foresake those traditions in order to have a place in that society. No, they must work to undermine and degrade that society in this sick, zero sum dance. I don’t really think that we can expect much better; this goes to the root of a cultural identity that must destroy and dominate the Other. It’s memorialized in their Torah stories of mass murder. Sad, but this is it.

  93. Zoodles says:
    @J.Ross

    Im not sure why, but its always the Koreans who are the most bastshit insane asian SJW types.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @J.Ross
  94. Mr. Anon says:
    @Tyrion 2

    In what way was affirmative action “struck down” in 2003?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  95. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, and maybe those camps in Poland weren’t real either. When all else fails, you can always go for denial. I think calling it Yale’s mantra (at least the mantra of the med. school admission office at that time) is not unfair under the circumstances.

    One of the interesting things to me is the inclusion of Italians in the memo – this seems to be a sort of forgotten chapter in American history (and the Italians seem to have let it go more than the Jews – the Jews are still complaining about their mistreatment by the Pharaoh 3,000 years ago). I remember when I was growing up I spoke to the father of one of my friends who had grown up in a NJ shore resort town. He said that the blacks went to a different school altogether (NJ didn’t have Jim Crow but they must have manipulated the district lines so that the black neighborhood had its own school) and the Italians attended the white school but were treated as 2nd class citizens.

    In the ’70s they tried to start something called the “Italian-American Anti-Defamation League” modeled on the Jewish ADL, the main purpose of which was to (1) fight discrimination against Italians and (2) deny that the Mafia really existed. But it turned out that the head of the IAADL was himself a Mafia kingpin (you can’t make this stuff up) and the Mafia ordered a hit on him at an IAADL rally because he was attracting too much publicity (the Mafia preferred to keep a low profile) and that was the end of the IAADL.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @Ian M.
  96. Mr. Anon says:
    @anony-mouse

    You mean a movie that Steve has talked about a lot in the past all of a sudden isn’t important………….ten years later, in the midst of a historical new political era?

    That’s an unusually stupid point. Even for you.

    • Replies: @anony-mouse
  97. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    Hey, you’ve got to admit that’s progress – in the old days we’d use the blood to make matzo.

    This kind of “retooling” doesn’t work genetically because your children tend to regress to group means even if you are above (or below) the mean. In general, this means that the children of bright parents are dumber than their parents on average (“from shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 3 generations”) but the mischlinge have further to regress because the group mean of one of their parents is lower.

    OTOH, miscegenation is a good way of getting rid of weird Jewish genetic diseases (e.g. Tay-Sachs), but you’ve to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  98. Jack D says:
    @27 year old

    Democrats don’t need Jewish votes – Jews are only 2% of the population and concentrated in reliable blue states where they are not needed. What they need is Jewish money. They could lose 83% of the Jews and be fine as long as the remaining 17% included the big money donors. Hell, they could lose 99% and be fine as long as the big $ donors stayed loyal.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @Dr. X
    , @27 year old
    , @anon
  99. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    The survey placing Jews at 9.5% ought to make sense as a floor. I conducted a quick and highly informal survey of Harvard sports teams a while back, counting only obviously Jewish names, and arrived at another floor of about 6%. 25% must be understood as a ceiling.

    Surname analysis may or may not be reliable depending on a) the size of the dataset and b) the reliability of the dataset. Mr. Unz had the advantage of being able to cross-check the results of a number of different surname-based methods for estimating NMS scholars; I don’t know how easy that would be with Harvard rolls.

  100. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You A-Number-1 white goblin! Me shadow-ban you long-time!

  101. @utu

    They explicitly rely on Hillel data. The JPost is in no position to gather it’s own data on this matter.

  102. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Remarkable that people believe this rubbish – that medieval Europe was “multi-racial, multi-cultural, and multi-faith”.

    However it isn’t just a few loons parading their ignorance. There is now a concerted effort to erase the history of white people. To render us unpersons, even in the past.

  103. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    Florida’s a pretty important state.

    • Replies: @Lot
  104. Jack D says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I see no moral reason why Mercedes should not sell me an S450 for $900.

    But Mercedes (and Harvard) have lots of BUSINESS reasons for not wanting to.

    As we have discussed before, a Harvard degree is a prestige good and one of the ways that prestige goods maintain their value is thru artificial scarcity – the producers know that if you produce 1 million Picasso prints then all Picasso prints will lose their value.

    MIT (there may be others) has made some half-hearted attempts along these lines as many of their courses are now available online thru two separate programs:

    https://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm

    https://www.edx.org/school/mitx

    Nowadays MIT students themselves often prefer to view the online video at a convenient time instead of making it to an early morning class or if they have missed the class for some reason, and if the professor says something too quickly you can rewind the video and hear it again. And they have even put in place an infrastructure for online students to submit homework, take exams, etc. Theoretically, you could take all of your courses online and learn just as much as you would if you were sitting in a classroom.

    However, the end result of this is NOT an MIT degree or even college credit, and I don’t expect this to change because MIT has no intention of putting itself out of business. You get some sort of “certificate” that you have completed the course and that’s it. An MIT DEGREE costs $250,000 and is a scarce and valuable good, an MITx CERTIFICATE costs $50 and is a wall decoration. It’s like the difference between an original Rembrandt oil painting and a reproduction of one.

    • Replies: @res
  105. Jack D says:
    @27 year old

    I totally agree. The Democrats could have some hard Left “Democratic” Socialist win the primary and for purposes of the general election he will be portrayed in the press as a “moderate” and certainly better than the Fascist Monster Hitlerian Trump. We are seeing this now in a number of Congressional races and in the last election the D candidate could have been Bernie (Honeymoon in the Soviet Union) Sanders if Hillary had not subverted the DNC as the Russian hacking revealed (and could well be Sanders this time).

    In the past, the Democrats (after the McGovern fiasco of 1972 when Nixon won 49 states) were afraid to run someone too far left (and Bill Clinton achieved electoral success with his triangulation). But Bill Clinton is now anathema in the Democrat Party – he put black people in jail and did all sorts of horrible racist things (in the revisionist history) and the Democrats, enraged by Trump, seem to have completely lost their fear of running far to the left. In their logic, you should fight fire with fire, so if Trump is an extreme rightist (which he isn’t) then it’s OKAY to run a far leftist against him.

    The question is, can this work or are Democrats shooting themselves in the foot by moving far to the left?

  106. Dr. X says:

    Affirmative action in higher education is arguably the most contentious political and social issue of the last half-century.

    Hasn’t this guy ever heard of Roe v. Wade??

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  107. Dr. X says:
    @Jack D

    Democrats don’t need Jewish votes – Jews are only 2% of the population and concentrated in reliable blue states where they are not needed. What they need is Jewish money.

    …and Jewish-controlled media to disseminate propaganda.

  108. bomag says:
    @AnotherDad

    If the government can dictate Harvard’s admissions policies, couldn’t we have it just … shut Harvard down?

    But Harvard has tapped into that vein of ore known as “status”.

    If not Harvard, them something else will tap that vein.

    Better for the gov’t to dictate admissions policies for a known entity than take a chance on what comes next.

  109. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The Alt-Right is TakingOer Renaissance Fairs

    OK, two can play at this game:

    The Afro-Americans are Cornering the Chitlins Market.

    I won’t click on your link, and you don’t need to click on mine – it all just points to Peak Stupidity.

  110. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    One of the complaints of the Nazis was that Jews disguised themselves by taking good German names like Hans and Franz and Adolf and dressing in normal clothing rather than the traditional sidelocks and caftan. Someone might introduce himself to you as “Heinrich Miller” and (unless you were an expert on racial science) you might not be able to tell whether he was an Aryan or not and you might do business with him (or even more disgustingly have sexual relations).

    So, the Law on the Alteration of Family and Personal Names of 1938 required German Jews bearing first names of “non-Jewish” origin to adopt an additional name: “Israel” for men and “Sara” for women. Heinrich Miller was henceforth to be known as Israel Heinrich Miller so he couldn’t fool you anymore. Also a J was stamped on the identity card of all Jews. Obviously, we have the same problem here in the US today, with all those Jewish “Scotts” and “Erics” and “Melissas” so it would probably be wise to take similar measures here. That way we could know if 1/4 of the Harvard class was really Jewish or not. Of course with all sorts of people who are partly Jewish and partly not, it will also be necessary to determine who gets a J and who doesn’t. We could assume that everyone is Jewish and then, if you could prove your pure Aryan credentials for 7 generations you’d be able to get the J taken off. I think this is a very modest proposal and only fair under the circumstances, wouldn’t you say?

  111. @Jack D

    Let’s try it and find out. 2016 showed they need every bit of the coalition to show up, plus fraud, to win. Blacks didn’t show up, dem lost. I bet dropping to 17% jew support would be very bad news for them.

    I agree about the SuperDonors, but it’s not just money, they need high agency people to actually do stuff.

    RE triangulation, as you mentioned the fake news media will run air support and cover any del candidate as a “moderate”, so I see them mostly getting away with it.

  112. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    The government doesn’t need to “shut Harvard down” explicitly. All they need to do is stop giving it massive amounts of money and massive tax breaks and it would wither back down to a small divinity school. All they need to do is treat Harvard (and all other private universities) like the business that they are. Here are a few simple measures:

    1. End all property tax exemptions for Harvard. The campus is assessed and has to pay property taxes like any other business. (The tax rates in Cambridge would go way down because the tax base would double).

    2. No more Federal grants to Harvard researchers. All research $ goes to state Us.

    3. The earnings on the Harvard endowment are taxed as ordinary income. Also the endowment has to distribute at least 10% of its principal each year for charitable purposes (e.g. scholarships) or there is a 100% tax on the excess.

    4. No more Federal guarantees on student loans at private colleges

    There has been a massive government finger on the scale that has grown our higher education (and health care) sector way beyond a level that is healthy (and way beyond what most other countries spend) and has caused tuition to skyrocket far beyond the rate of inflation. All that the government needs to do is take its thumb off the scale; it doesn’t need to ban anything. Preferential treatment for “non-profits” is a racket – there is no such thing as a “non-profit”.

  113. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    IME, however, the ‘stories’ never made the difference between admit and reject.

    Then in that case, get rid of them. If they are impossible to verify and are given no weight and are irrelevant to your academic talents, then just skip them. The reason they are there anyway is just to help (the right sort of ) racial minorities – “I know my SATs are kind of low but I grew up in a single parent home and my mother worked 7 jobs and walked to work because we couldn’t afford a car and it was uphill both ways and I was sexually abused by my uncle blah blah blah.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  114. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    So let’s review. We know from your past statements that you don’t want Jews on the left in this country because you view them as destructive. We now learn that you also don’t want Jews on the right because you fear that they are not sincere and are merely pursuing their own self interest (unlike non-Jews who we know act only in an altruistic way in all cases). So it would be fair to say that you don’t want Jews in America at all?

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @AnotherDad
  115. @Jack D

    Of course with all sorts of people who are partly Jewish and partly not, it will also be necessary to determine who gets a J and who doesn’t.

    That’s the simplest and funniest part. Full blood Jews get a capital “J”, mischlings get a small “j”. It can be written in pink if the Jewish ancestry is on the mother’s side.

    Full fledged Orthodox Jews can get a Yod; cultural accomodation and such.

  116. Pat Boyle says:
    @eah

    Is the statement that Asians outperform Jews, in fact true?

    The smartest nation seems to be South Korea. The smartest cities seem to be in China but Ashkenazi Jews as a tiny group still have the highest IQ scores. Jews are typically accounted at an average IQ of around 112-115. Whereas as the East Asians score around 105-107.

    If things have changed or I’m just wrong – correct me.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @eah
    , @res
  117. @Jack D

    So it would be fair to say that you don’t want Jews in America at all?

    For AnotherDad, the relevant geographic entity might not be America. It might be the universe.

  118. Jack D says:
    @Pat Boyle

    I would say that (putting aside IQ scores for the moment) Asians are now beating the pants off Jews in STEM areas. But E. Asian intelligence seems to be shaded more toward the mathematical than the verbal and in areas where verbal skills dominate (law, literature, the movie business, etc.) Jews are still holding their own. Although even in those areas Asian are starting to show up, their numbers are not as great as in the STEM areas.

  119. @Dan Hayes

    …while not a regular Tablet reader I am struck by its “let it all hang out” stance regarding Jewish actions.

    Somehow this reminds me of the story of the two old Jews who encountered each other at a café in pre-WWI Vienna. The café had a variety of newspapers available for its customers to read, mounted on sticks in the usual mitteleuropäisch fashion. One of the men was reading a Yiddish socialist paper. “Oy vey!” he exclaimed, “such terrible news! Pogroms in Russia, l’affaire Dreyfus… what next?”

    The other Jew held up the paper he was reading, and to his companion’s surprise, it was the organ of the Viennese mayor Karl Lueger’s Christian Social Party, notorious for its anti-Semitism. “You ought to look at this. Here I read that we control the banks, dominate the medical profession, and pull all the political strings. Even the Kaiser is under our influence. I like good news!”

  120. @Jack D

    In the ’70s they tried to start something called the “Italian-American Anti-Defamation League” modeled on the Jewish ADL, the main purpose of which was to (1) fight discrimination against Italians and (2) deny that the Mafia really existed. But it turned out that the head of the IAADL was himself a Mafia kingpin (you can’t make this stuff up) and the Mafia ordered a hit on him at an IAADL rally because he was attracting too much publicity (the Mafia preferred to keep a low profile) and that was the end of the IAADL.

    In fairness, Italians were just discriminated against. Jews are actively hated, on top of the discrimination. How many Unz commenters go after Italians? Does anyone deny the right of an Italian state to exist?

    I can’t think of any other white ethnic group in America that is targeted by other whites in the way Jews are, although Middle America is now starting to get a feel for what this feels like, at least with respect to media coverage. But Middle America isn’t an ethnic group. These are class differences more than anything else. Whereas Jews are targeted on a religious and ethnic basis.

    I want to say it’s purely a religious issue, but you don’t really see Muslims targeted, and Muslims were responsible for 9/11 and most of the other terrorist attacks mounted against Americans since the 1960′s. There’s just a residual hostility towards Jews that exists in certain segments of the white population that doesn’t exist against other white co-ethnics, and it’s this hostility that keeps the ADL in business.

  121. @Mr. Anon

    Steve mentioned Idiocracy 3X in 2016 (not just 10 years ago) including literally the day before Trump was elected:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/why-the-marriage-gap-overwhelmed-the-gender-gap-in-2012/?highlight=idiocracy

    But since then only twice.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  122. @bomag

    3 pages worth of references to the same pop cultural event-virtually stopping the day Trump got elected.

    Note this one:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/why-the-marriage-gap-overwhelmed-the-gender-gap-in-2012/?highlight=idiocracy

    Literally the day before he got elected.

  123. Ian M. says:
    @anon

    While we’re at it, we ought to have separate schools for each group.

  124. Anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Sarah Jeong, get the hell out of the US. You will never have to deal with a single white conservative when you are back home in Pyongyang.

    You should have said ‘Seoul’. North Korea is defiant of US globalism. It’s South Korea that is servile to all the trends emanating from the US. South Korea is just imitation nation. If US has homo parades, South must do too. If the US sanctions Iran, South Korea follow along. Jeong is an imitation PC American. No originality, individuality, and agency. All just mindless imitation of the dominant narrative.

    Jeong’s family left the south to come to the US, the main power. And Sarah was raised by her parents to be a teacher’s pet and suck up to power. Since Political Correctness is the reigning dogma of the West, Jeong became a puppet of that. And so, the Power rewards her by hiring to parrot all the stuff crammed into her head by her globo professors. NYT didn’t hire a new voice but a likeminded dog who barks the official mantra of globalism.

  125. Flip says:
    @istevefan

    They are not firing her and said they reviewed her social media beforehand.

  126. “they need to retool and reinvigorate themselves with the blood of the best of the Gentiles”

    Doubtful.

    Is there evidence that Jews are marrying upper IQ level gentiles? Upper educational attainment and upper IQ are not always the same thing, for starters.

    Men also don’t have much of a preference for highly educated women. I have extremely high levels of education, but I can’t remember a single instance where I felt the onset of arousal thinking about a woman’s PhD or JD. In fact, they are a downright turnoff.

    Since male preferences tend towards women in the caring professions (e.g., teachers, nurses), and since attractiveness plays a large role….

  127. snorlax says:
    @Johann Ricke

    The iSteve comments section is extremely unrepresentative of popular opinion, in case you haven’t noticed. The most hated white ethnic groups in America, by far, are white Anglo or Scots-Irish Southerners and Appalachians (i.e. “rednecks” / “hillbillies” / “white trash”). Third is WASPs. Jews are in a distant fourth. Or fifth if Arabs are counted as white.

  128. @Dr. X

    That’s why the man wrote “arguably”, Doctor X.

    You’re on here arguing about it, so he’s right. ;-}

  129. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @NickG

    In the UK, Jewish political influence, at least via the ballot box, is minimal.

    You are naive if you think so. Many Jews married into the British aristocracy during the 1800′s and 1900′s and now go by English last names like Taylor or Huntington. The Rothchilds remain very powerful in the UK. They also own The Economist, the mouthpiece of the Jew World Order. 300,000 Jews is a powerful force when they are rich enough to buy influence. The Labour party has always been in their pockets, especially Tony Blair.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  130. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    They are recruiting for girlfriends, wives, daughters-in-law?

    You don’t say. What % of Harvard’s “Asian” population is female vs. male? I suspect there are far more Asian women than men at the Ivies. They are there for the Jewish men to date, since Jewish women are too busy dating black men. When Jewish men marry Asian women, their kids are raised Jewish with Jewish last names, a net gain, like Amy Chua and her kids. When Jewish women marry black men, their kids are raised black, often secular, with non-Jewish last names, a net loss.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  131. @Jack D

    That’s good stuff in this one, Jack D. I will correct, if I may, your idea #4.

    4. No more Federal guarantees on student loans.

    You mention the government finger on the scale. This is not a pinky finger. The massive bubble in the Education Industrial Complex has been caused largly by this massive government huge ass of guaranteed loans on the scale, not a finger. Read more on the University Bubble Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3.

  132. eah says:
    @Pat Boyle

    Is the statement that Asians outperform Jews, in fact true?

    I assume you mean have a higher aggregate admissions score (this is about admissions, not how students do after being admitted) — I asked myself the same question — I don’t know — what can be said is that looking at the three cohorts Whites, Asians, and Jews, you’d have to say the average Asian is more likely to outscore the average Jew than the average white kid, assuming Asians have marginally higher average scores than Whites, which is true at least at UC, and probably elsewhere (ie at other very selective schools) too.

  133. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    Couldn’t agree more. The Traitorous Eight led by Harvard have done far more damage to the US than any other institution except maybe the CIA. We need to make the higher ed cartel irrelevant via homeschooling, and MOOCs. Fuck HYPSM. Let them go choke on their own smug self-importance.

    • Replies: @Ian M.
  134. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    (Full disclosure: I did my Ph.D. at Stanford, and one of my brothers did his BA at Stanford, the other at Harvard — I know, alas, whereof I speak.)

    Takes one to know one. But I don’t blame you.

    Smug libtards running our colleges are full of hypocrisy, and they are getting what they fully deserve from the pragmatic applicants from everything-is-fake China, who are making a farce out of their hypocrisy by claiming fake awards, submitting fake recommendations and essays detailing fake life changing experiences using ghost writers.

    Holistic admission is a total farce and it’s hilarious to watch the Chinese turn it into the circus side show that it really is.

  135. Jack D says:
    @Johann Ricke

    There was at one time in America a nativist anti-Catholic hatred that was almost as bad (or maybe just as bad) as anti-Semitic hatred. Maybe even worse – there were Catholic churches burned but I don’t recall any synagogues being burned in America.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_nativist_riots

    This seems to have peaked (not coincidentally) around the time of peak Irish migration (and well before peak Italian migration) – i.e. the 1840s. By the time Italians arrived they were dislike for their ethnicity rather than for being of a different religion.

    However, anti-Catholic bias seems to have pretty much faded away. I don’t know exactly when – maybe around the time Kennedy was assassinated? But anti-Semitism appears to be alive and well, as amply illustrated by the comments in this blog. Ironically, a lot of the remaining anti-Semites are themselves Catholics (though Italian Americans don’t seem to have any special hatred for Jews). The leading Catholic anti-Semite in America was Father Coughlin, who was Irish rather than Italian.

    Many of Father Coughlin’s comments from the 1930s remain current in the blog comments I see here every day (e.g. the Jews = Bolsheviks meme). If his ghost was to reanimate and start posting here, he would fit right in.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @3g4me
    , @Anon
  136. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    Recall the NYT hired Razib Khan and then fired him the same day after protesters informed them he wrote at unz.com.

    Totally different sin. This time the Jew York Times hired the right person that represents who they really are, she’s just a lot more blunt and tactless about it, or in the words of the progressivetards, “edgy”.

  137. @Jack D

    2. No more Federal grants to Harvard researchers. All research $ goes to state Us.

    No more federal grants to anybody. States can fund their own universities’ research.

    Your plan is just playing different favorites.

    By the way, many state universities started out as private: William and Mary, Temple, Pitt, Auburn, Toledo, Wisconsin-Stout, Ball State, Mansfield, etc.

    (Nice sentence from Wikipedia: “For example, at Princeton University, 60% of the Class of 2013 received financial aid, with an average grant amount of $36,000. The average grant now exceeds Princeton’s $35,340 annual tuition [fee].”)

    4. No more Federal guarantees on student loans at private colleges

    There has been a massive government finger on the scale…

    You don’t see the contradiction on these adjacent sentences? Why are federal guarantees any more legitimate at state colleges? Let the states make their own guarantees.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  138. @istevefan

    The New York Times dares criticize Trump for calling it the enemy of the people and then their latest hire is exposed as a white-hating harpy. Trump’s Luck strikes again.

  139. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    They could lose 83% of the Jews and be fine as long as the remaining 17% included the big money donors.

    Jewish dominance in the media, academia, legal system, DNC, K Street, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, Deep State are even more powerful than what their money is buying. Jews wouldn’t be half as powerful as they are today if they hadn’t taken over academia, followed by the media. The indoctrination in K-college and the further enforcement through media propaganda are key to Jewish success in the US.

  140. @Johann Ricke

    There’s just a residual hostility towards Jews that exists in certain segments of the white population that doesn’t exist against other white co-ethnics, and it’s this hostility that keeps the ADL in business

    Reading Amy Chua and Thomas Sowell will give one a good grasp of the fact that this elevated hostility is hardly unique to Jews. In other countries, other successful minorities bear the brunt of it.

    Kevin McDonald once said he was going to study other such diasporas as well. Did he ever? He should just take a sabbatical from Jews for a time, for his own sake and his critics’.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  141. @Anonymous

    As the non-Jewish husband of a Jewish woman, I can assure you that this is not much of a strategy for the future of Judaism. None of my three children identify as Jewish or have any particular interest in it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  142. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Fine by me. Repeal or reduce the Federal income tax and keep the money closer to home where politicians are more accountable. Why does our money have to get taxed away to Washington by the Federal government , put thru the Washington wringer (with priorities determined by a Congressional majority that may be different than the views of most people in my state) and then some of it (lots of leakage for lobbyists and bureaucrats – DC Metro area richest in the country) comes back home? (And local politicians see Federal money as “free” so they don’t mind spending it on wasteful BS – trolley lines that no one rides, etc.) Why not just let the money stay home to begin with?

    BTW, the university thing ran both ways – the University of Pennsylvania started out as a state university (as did the 1st railroad in Pennsylvania) and then got privatized. And there are Federal “land grant” colleges that are private Us and not the flagship state U’s – MIT and Cornell (which is itself a public/private hybrid).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  143. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    Anti-Catholic sentiment was quite a bit more prevalent in the 19th and early 20th century than antisemitism. In fact the “Know-Nothing” party was founded and initially led by a Jew, Lewis Levin. Later in the century, the GOP would endorse the anti-Catholic “Blaine Amendment” in its 1876 and 1880 platforms, while Blaine himself was the GOP presidential nominee in 1884, running under the slogan of opposition to “Rum, Romanism and Rebellion.”

    The first Catholic presidential candidate, Al Smith in 1928, lost in a landslide thanks to rumors such as that he would invalidate all Protestant marriages, and that the Lincoln Tunnel was secretly an underground palace being from which the Pope would rule America. (After his loss, Smith sent the Pope a telegram reading “unpack”).

    Even in 1960 Kennedy faced attacks from anti-Catholic groups such as “Protestants and Other Americans United for Separation of Church and State” (who still exist, having dropped the “Protestants and Other” prefix). But four years later nobody made an issue of Barry Goldwater being half-Jewish.

    e.g. the Jews = Bolsheviks meme

    Half-true at best WRT Russia, but pretty true WRT America at the time. Exactly whom do you think gave open Stalin groupie Henry Wallace 8.25% of the New York State vote in 1948?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Tony
  144. rec1man says:
    @Steve Sailer

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ICM_2018/status/1024735094945275904

    Akshay Venkatesh, 2018 Fields medallist, began his Bachelor’s degree at age 13 and by the age of 20, had completed his Ph.D. at Princeton University.

    - the co-winner is a Tamil Brahmin

    The previous Fields winner Manjul Bhargava is also a Brahmin

  145. Anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Seems there’s an uptick in Jewish-promoted outspoken white-hating Korean broads lately…

    This Jeong business is a proxy war. Jews train and recruit non-Jews to attack their rivals or perceived enemies. After all, if ONLY JEWS piled on whites, whites would get angry with Jews. So, it’s useful for Jews to use homos and POC to attack whites.

    As for whites, they know they can’t attack Jews because that’d be ‘antisemitic’. So, they go after proxies of Jews, and Asians and Muslims(and even Mexicans) are fair game. Homos used to be fair game too, but the term ‘homophobia’ shields homos like ‘racism’ shields blacks and ‘antisemitism’ shields Jews. Only those three groups have special shields.

    Koreans acting as servile proxies of the dominant power is nothing new and fits an age-old pattern. For 1000 yrs, Korea was servile toady of China. When Stalin dragged bunch of Koreans to Central Asia to die, the survivors became the most loyal toadies of USSR despite what the Soviets did to them. Most Koreans collaborated with the Japanese colonizers. When US and USSR divided Korea, the ones up north became mindless toadies of fat Kim, the puppet of Stalin. Ones in the South became servile toadies of the US. Many became mindless Christians and served the US in mass slaughter of the Vietnamese.

    Now, Koreans in the West come under the dominant power of Jews and homos. Ever the dutiful and servile pets whose main obsession is gaining statu and approval, it’s only natural that Koreans become the most earnest and humorless running dogs of PC. These Korean girls were raised by parents to study hard and gain status. That means swallowing and regurgitating the dominant narrative and hatred of the ruling elites that now happen to be Jewish. Being so single-minded in their pursuit of status and approval, these Koreans are utterly lacking in self-awareness as to their doglike nature.
    Soviets and the US found Koreans very useful. Koreans were utterly loyal commissars of the Soviets. And Korean soldiers were far more committed to killing ‘commies’ in Vietnam, razing entire villages.
    Now, Jewish globalists find Koreans useful as toadies and running dogs. Jews lead, Koreans follow. Same old pattern.
    Soviet-trained Koreans persecuted enemies of the Soviets. US-trained Koreans slaughtered Vietnamese. But this planted the seeds of anti-Korean-ness later on. When Soviets withdrew from Central Asia, the locals saw Koreans as agents of the Soviets, and there was a serious backlash. And the Vietnamese still harbor bitter feelings about Korea to this day.
    Now, these Koreans in the US are serving as attack dogs of Jews against whites. As long as Jewish power remains intact to favor and protect these Korean dogs, they will have status and privilege. But when the tide turns and white people begin waking up, these yellow dogs need to go.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  146. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    In that case, the reason is that Italians are not the market dominant or middleman minority in the US. You’re right that in Asia the overseas Chinese often fill this niche (and there are periodic anti-Chinese pogroms in places like Indonesia) and in Africa (e.g. Uganda) it was South Asians (Indians). And you can see a lot of parallels in the dynamic between these groups and the local unwashed peasants.

    In Latin America (Mexico, Brasil), a lot of the market dominant minority is Lebanese (Maronite Christian) but there doesn’t seem to be any anti-Maronism that I know of. I gather that Maronites will attend regular Catholic churches if there are not enough Maronites around so maybe the lack of religious difference was helpful, not that I get the feeling that Carlos Slim mingles with the shirtless lower classes in Church or anywhere else.

    • Replies: @ThirdWorldSteveReader
  147. 3g4me says:
    @Jack D

    @131 Jack D: “Many of Father Coughlin’s comments from the 1930s remain current in the blog comments I see here every day (e.g. the Jews = Bolsheviks meme). If his ghost was to reanimate and start posting here, he would fit right in.”

    I’m playing the world’s tiniest shofar for the poor, scorned Jews in America.
    The tune goes like this:

    Womp womp.

    ht/27 year old

  148. Jack D says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Some children of mixed marriages identify as fully Jewish, which would mathematically tend to increase Jewish #’s if “some” was more than 50%, but I don’t think that it is (and putting aside questions of “who is a Jew” under Orthodox Jewish law).

    There are (at least) 3 possible outcomes and nowadays (in the absence of other data) I would guess that #3 is the most popular (maybe 50% or more) and that 1 and 2 are less than 25% each:

    1. Children identify as Jewish (this may be a problem if mother is not Jewish because then they are not “really” Jewish unless they undergo conversion).

    2. Children identify as Christian. (This was more common in the past when it was socially disadvantageous to be Jewish).

    3. Children don’t really identify with any religion – either they are completely atheist or they celebrate Christmas AND Chanukah (more presents that way) but don’t really consider themselves as one or the other.

    And this goes child by child even within the same family – as adults some of them might choose option 1 and the rest might pick 2 or 3.

  149. Jack D says:
    @snorlax

    Exactly whom do you think gave open Stalin groupie Henry Wallace 8.25% of the New York State vote in 1948?

    I dunno but Wallace himself was not Jewish so there must have been at least 1 non-Jewish bolshie. And neither was Earl Browder or Gus Hall so that makes 3.

    It’s interesting that you are going back to the ’40s because certainly starting by the early ’50s with the Doctor’s Plot, Soviet Communism took a distinctly anti-Semitic turn and never turned back.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @ATBOTL
  150. res says:
    @Twinkie

    One of my best “razors” for controversial topics is to see who is making and who is opposing efforts to gather and publish data that could decide things one way or another. It works so well I fear taking it too seriously.

    P.S. IMHO a good example of this is the debate surrounding Ron Unz’s American Meritocracy article.

    • Agree: Twinkie
  151. res says:
    @Jack D

    One of the best ways to use the videos is to flip the classroom. Let the students watch lectures at home and have the in-person time be more interactive. This was a thing at Stanford a few years ago. Not sure if it still is.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  152. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Would anyone seriously think that a jewish-owned newspaper like the NYT would accept someone who spoke like this about jews?

    And would Jewish punditry (NYMag, Vox) come out with these high verbal IQ rationalizations?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  153. res says:
    @Pat Boyle

    Jack D summarized it well, but worth adding that Asians are up to ~6% of the US population (~4x Jews, I see 1.4% and 5.6% respectively). Even if they aren’t quite competitive one for one, that is a big capable group. Asians also seem to be working harder than the current generation of Jews.

    And that population difference pales next to the worldwide comparison!

  154. Jack D says:
    @res

    Maybe I am old fashioned ( in other respects I am not – I have pretty much given up reading and writing on paper in favor of the screen) but I think that watching a video of a class is not the same thing as being in the classroom for the same reason that watching a film of a play is not the same thing as attending the theater. Even if you don’t change a thing, it’s not the same and the latter is much better.

    • Replies: @res
    , @PhysicistDave
  155. @Jack D

    there doesn’t seem to be any anti-Maronism that I know of. I gather that Maronites will attend regular Catholic churches if there are not enough Maronites around so maybe the lack of religious difference was helpful

    That’s it, mostly. The Lebanese community in Latin America is much more integrated to the mainstream religion than the Jewish community is in America, thus they are not seen as outsiders and, crucially, neither see themselves as such. Add to it that:

    1. The Lebanese community is much less cosmopolitan and much more localized. New Lebanese don’t move around the countries or arrive fresh from Lebanon, Rahm Emmanuel style. It’s much harder to see them as foreign, because very few of them are and most have no connections outside their present country.

    2. They have minimum involvement with anything happening in Lebanon and don’t make much lobbying at trying to steer their countries to ME conflicts.

    3. They aren’t nearly one tenth as visible as the American Jewish community. This keeping a low profile matters a lot.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  156. @Jack D

    So let’s review. We know from your past statements that you don’t want Jews on the left in this country because you view them as destructive. We now learn that you also don’t want Jews on the right because you fear that they are not sincere and are merely pursuing their own self interest (unlike non-Jews who we know act only in an altruistic way in all cases). So it would be fair to say that you don’t want Jews in America at all?

    I only want people in my nation, who–after their own family interests–are loyal to the nation. See themselves as part of the nation and prioritize the interests of their fellow citizens.

    This isn’t any sort of weird “anti-Semitic” bar. It’s what some sort of “game theory” analysis/simulation of a “nation” would throw up, and it’s what people around the world more or less expect of their fellow citizens. (When they don’t have it, it usually means civil war or breakup is in the cards.)

    That so many American Jews–not just left, but nominally “right”–fail this rather ho-hum, loyalty test, says something quite negative about American Jews’ attitudes, not about mine.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Twinkie
  157. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    I dunno

    Yes you do. I could break out the NYC vs. rest-of-state numbers if you’d like.

    It’s interesting that you are going back to the ’40s

    Uh, because you were going back to the ’30s? Which is when Jewish-American sympathy for Soviet Communism was at its peak, prior to the Nazi-Soviet Pact.

  158. ATBOTL says:

    There is nothing more sickening than to see conservatives hold the viciously anti-white Dershowitz in high esteem due to his neoconservative tendencies on some issues. This man has a deep hatred of white gentile Americans and has done as much as anyone to hurt us. His open fanatical ethnocentrism and open hostility to white gentiles should make him toxic and unemployable.

    I can’t think of a better target for alt right protesters and troll and go after.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  159. @Johann Ricke

    Does anyone deny the right of an Italian state to exist?

    AFAICT, the general mood here is more anti-Diaspora than anti-Israel. Most of Steve’s jabs at Israel are just a way of pointing the hypocrisy of Jewish American “Conservatives” who defend open borders.

    The anti-Israel crowd is usually more to the left of this blog.

    I want to say it’s purely a religious issue, but you don’t really see Muslims targeted

    Huh, around here you see plenty. Sure, the press at large treats them like sacred cows – but then, the same press also doesn’t publish hit pieces on da Joos.

    There’s just a residual hostility towards Jews that exists in certain segments of the white population that doesn’t exist against other white co-ethnics

    I’m going to speculate that a lot of this has to do with the Jews remaining less assimilated and more foreign than all other white ethnicities – that last one literally; as late as 2013, 13-17% of Jews in America were foreign-born (http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/chapter-2-intermarriage-and-other-demographics/#ancestry-and-place-of-birth).

    • Replies: @Jack D
  160. ATBOTL says:
    @Jack D

    There was no “anti-semitic” turn in the Soviet Union. What really happened is that the communist dictatorship went from being Jewish and to a lesser extent, other minority dominated, to being more ethnically representative of the population, but still with a huge overrepresentation of Jews in positions of power.

    Jews interpret loss of privilege and power over gentiles as “anti-semitism.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  161. Lot says:
    @snorlax

    Yes. And Jews probably have the highest voter turnout of any ethnic group. And 2% is too low a number as reaction against left wing and Islamic antisemitism will include the many people who are partly Jewish, married to Jews, close business partners with Jews, and who have Jewish step and half-siblings and nephews and in-laws.

    Add all these groups up, and adjust for the fact they are all likely to vote at a higher than average rate, and your Jew/Jewish-ish vite share goes to 7-10% in the midwest swing states, NV, and NH, and 10-15% in Florida.

  162. Jack D says:
    @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    I dunno. I get the feeling that the Maronites are pretty insular and tend to marry each other. I highly doubt that Slim “sees himself” as just another Mexican Mestizo who would welcome having little brownish grandchildren. And I know that Slim (Salim really) or his wife is related to one of the big warlord clans in Lebanon – are you sure that they don’t keep in touch with the family in the old country?

    The # of Jews in the US who have “old country” connections nowadays is minimal because everyone back in the Old Country is either dead or already here. Israelis form a small % of the Jewish American community.

    It sounds to me that you are projecting Maronites as the mirror image of Jews – whatever bad things Jews do they do the opposite and are good. I’m guessing that your imaginary “Maronites” have nothing to do with the real ones about whom you know nothing.

    • Replies: @ThirdWorldSteveReader
  163. Jack D says:
    @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    Or it could just be good old fashioned anti-Semitism. It often strikes me how the themes that come up on this blog are the perennials of anti-Semitism for a least the last century – Jews as Bolsheviks, disloyal, greedy, etc. There have been a lot of new technological developments since the ’30s but anti-Semitic technology seems stuck in the past. The only new development is that because Israel exists, it can get thrown into the mix. Now when my father was a kid, the anti-Semetic theme in Poland was “Jews to Palestine” but now it is “Jews Out of Palestine”.

    Now maybe this is because Jews really are perfidious but as someone else pointed out, these kind of accusations tend to be leveled at the local scapegoat minority everywhere and often seem unrooted from reality. Not only are the Jews disloyal but at various times the Japanese were disloyal, Catholics were disloyal, etc. In Indonesia, its the Chinese who are disloyal and in Uganda the Indians.

  164. Jack D says:
    @ATBOTL

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors%27_plot

    I suppose there was no anti-Semitism in Nazi Germany either – it was just the Jews mourning their loss of power.

  165. snorlax says:
    @ATBOTL

    Dershowitz is one of Trump’s most effective public surrogates at the moment, so I can think of many, many better targets for alt-right protestors to troll and go after.

    BTW, if he’s so ethnocentric, why’s he so proud of helping Ron Goldman’s killer go free?

  166. gneisenau says:
    @Thomas

    “It’s fair to say that among the white proportion of student bodies at elite universities, a significant proportion are Jewish.”

    Never mind the white proportion, 27% of all Yale undergrads and 25% of all Harvard undergrads are jewish.

    The over-representation is astonishing.

    https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/The-most-heavily-Jewish-US-college-and-other-facts-about-Jews-at-American-colleges-437701

  167. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Then in that case, get rid of them. If they are impossible to verify and are given no weight and are irrelevant to your academic talents, then just skip them.

    I would not say that they are irrelevant but rather problematic. They can be telling (in one way or another) and many are fun to read (perhaps the real reason they’re kept). But in all seriousness, I’d keep them because they do permit candidates to elaborate upon material not touched upon in other sections of the application.

    That being said, I do think adcom members tend to exaggerate their ability to ferret out the fakes.

    The reason they are there anyway is just to help (the right sort of ) racial minorities

    They are there to offer something closer to a ‘whole picture’ of the applicant, and particularly (as I mentioned above) to compensate for ‘lacunae’ in the rest of the package. But I don’t deny they are also a way to signal things to the adcom which I’d rather not see signaled, or am tired of seeing signaled. Though the typical adcom member would disagree with me.

    Asians are notorious for cheating on standardized tests, too. Shall we scrap them?

  168. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    For once, I think we all agree on something. Devolve authority, regulation, and taxation to the smallest political unit feasible. This increases freedom and responsibility.

  169. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    A lot of people on the internet today confusing the expressive way anti-racists and minorities talk about “white people” with actual race-based hatred, for some unfathomable reason

    — Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp) August 2, 2018

    Wow. Just thought that might bear repeating. You can say anything you want about white people, any time and any place you like. There’s nothing you can’t say, and we’re well on our way to “nothing you can’t do.” It’s unfathomable why you’d think otherwise.

  170. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    I only want people in my nation, who–after their own family interests–are loyal to the nation. See themselves as part of the nation and prioritize the interests of their fellow citizens.

    Alas, as Paul Ryan might say, that is now a ‘textbook’ example of anti-semitism.

    Patriotism = anti-semitism. What a pretty pass.

  171. Redman says:
    @AnotherDad

    Agree completely. My sense is that many (most?) Jews just have too much of the tribal instinct to ever go along with the civic nationalism espoused by Steve et al.

    The desire to set themselves apart from whatever country they happen to live in will always present itself. The existence of Israel actually reinforces that tendency, since nationalist Jews can always look to Israel as their true home come the revolution/Armageddon.

  172. @anon

    Exactly. One point, the black offspring are being raised Jewish. Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians.

    Mark Zuckerberg married a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. He loves ancient Rome but there’s a slight problem. Jews/Asians/blacks had nothing to do with Roman history. That’s why his sister Donna Zuckerberg is busy rewriting Roman history.

    Topshop heiress (((Chloe Green))) just had black/Jewish issue with the black Jeremy Meeks. This is why Jews now support quota.

  173. utu says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I don’t see their stats as credible.

    Why? Why do the numbers bother you? Why would you want to have them lower? Is it because it is good for Jews? Then why Hillel would inflate the numbers? Is Hillel bad for Jews? Or is it possible that Hillel and you got different memos about what is good for Jews?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Mr. Anon
  174. @Jack D

    I noticed you only objected to what I wrote in point 1, so until further comment will take it to mean that you more or less agree that points 2 and 3 explain some of the difference between the treatment dispensed to Jews and to Maronites.

    I get the feeling that the Maronites are pretty insular and tend to marry each other.

    Which is the feeling people have about the Jews, but you surely can see some nuance there. Are Maronites more insular than [country's population majority]? Yes. Are they more insular than Jews? Probably yes in America, probably no in Latin America, almost certainly no in Brazil.

    I highly doubt that Slim “sees himself” as just another Mexican Mestizo who would welcome having little brownish grandchildren.

    But since when Mestizo is the only possible identity to assume in order to be integrated in Mexico society? Of course he doesn’t see himself as a Mestizo, but likely neither he sees himself as a Lebanese; he probably sees himself as a white Mexican. And anyway, he is as representative of the Maronites as Max Boot is of American Jews.

    And I know that Slim (Salim really) or his wife is related to one of the big warlord clans in Lebanon – are you sure that they don’t keep in touch with the family in the old country?

    His wife, IIRC. I don’t if they keep in touch anymore than I know about Jewish politicians connections to Israel, which again, if they were to be pointed here, you would try to dismiss as not representative of the population.

    The # of Jews in the US who have “old country” connections nowadays is minimal because everyone back in the Old Country is either dead or already here. Israelis form a small % of the Jewish American community.

    This “minimal” is still more than what the average white ethnic group in America, and more than the average Maronite has. According to Pew, 4% of American Jews are Israelis and some other 10% were born in other countries. Lebanon doesn’t reach the top five in Brazil’s minuscule foreign population.

    I know that most American Jews are local, but the point is that most other communities are even more local than that. That makes it easier to see Jews as more foreign than these other communities, which is what I mean in point 1.

    It sounds to me that you are projecting Maronites as the mirror image of Jews – whatever bad things Jews do they do the opposite and are good.

    You are wrong, mostly because you are getting unnecessarily defensive. I get it, this is a hostile environment, some people are over the top, and I may have written with less care than usual, but try not to let your paranoia put words that I didn’t write in your mind. I don’t hate the Jews, I don’t think they are responsible for all evil in the West and all war in the Middle East, I have more than once corrected, on this very website, people who think that the Jews are responsible for the mess that is my country. My opinion on Maronites is not the mirror of my opinion on Jews, anyway.

    I’m guessing that your imaginary “Maronites” have nothing to do with the real ones about whom you know nothing.

    Given how your imagination makes you read words I didn’t write, I hope you don’t put much money on your ability to guess about my life. You are wrong.

    I’m guessing that your knowledge of Latin American Maronites is restricted to the public biography of Carlos Slim, on whom you model the millions of Maronites of the continent to conform to your preconceived idea.

  175. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Donna has upped her face game, going by this:

    Steve’s hypothesis of feminism being driven by an inability to attract mates may be less relevant than it was in the past.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  176. According to Pew, 4% of American Jews are Israelis and some other 10% were born in other countries

    Haim Saban, Gene Simmons and Natalie Portman may not be your cup of tea, but Israel has sent several good writers to America– Ori Brafman, Dan Ariely, Amir Aczel…

    They may not always be right, but they do know how to be interesting.

    The Swedish Central Bank thought highly enough of Daniel Kahneman and Robert J Aumann to give them Nobels in economics. There are no Rigoberta Menchus, Barack Obamas, or Bob Dylans on that prize’s list.

    The only Brazilian Jews who come to mind are Ithamara Koorax and that celebrated mayor of Curitiba.

    Ithamara Koorax has one of my favorite names in entertainment– she sounds like a species of praying mantis.

    • Replies: @ThirdWorldSteveReader
  177. @Reg Cæsar

    Donna has upped her face game

    She has the same uncanny valley blankness as her brother. Her skin is a map of her extraterrestrial origins—see the Big Dipper on her left cheek.

  178. @anon

    Of course such an article can only be written by a Jew, anyone else would be called out as an anti-semite and forever ostracized. Still, I am glad it was written. It shows that not all Jews are clannish greedy bastards, some are still fair minded and honest.

    Jewish news and magazines are chock full of stuff that would get any gentile writer blackballed for life from any professional employment. You could easily crib the text from a bunch of articles and make a “Tablet or Daily Stormer?” quiz game.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  179. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Gratz vs Bollinger 2003.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  180. res says:
    @Jack D

    There is a lot of variability. I think video can serve as an adequate replacement for large lectures. There are pros and cons to both. I think this class serves as a positive example of a good lecturer whose skill comes across in video: https://work.caltech.edu/telecourse.html

    I do get what you mean. People respond to each others physical presence.

  181. snorlax says:
    @WowJustWow

    You could easily crib the text from a bunch of articles and make a “Tablet or Daily Stormer?” quiz game.

    DS is quite extreme, so that would require an absurd degree of cherry-picking of quotes. “Tablet or Kevin MacDonald” would be pretty easily doable, but you should bear in mind that Tablet is right-of-center.

    • Replies: @Anon
  182. Twinkie says:
    @AnotherDad

    I only want people in my nation, who–after their own family interests–are loyal to the nation. See themselves as part of the nation and prioritize the interests of their fellow citizens.

    I teach my children God, country, community, and family – in that order.

  183. Tony says:
    @snorlax

    “But four years later nobody made an issue of Barry Goldwater being half-Jewish.”
    Especially the deep south where Goldwater got his strongest support. But he was half Jewish by blood only, having been raised as a Protestant.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  184. Twinkie says:
    @Anon

    Now, Koreans in the West come under the dominant power of Jews and homos. Ever the dutiful and servile pets whose main obsession is gaining statu and approval, it’s only natural that Koreans become the most earnest and humorless running dogs of PC.

    So much so that around 80% of Koreans in America are Christians, frequently evangelicals who reliably vote for socially conservative policies. They have the highest intermarriage rates with whites among Asians and are so well-represented in the (very Christian) army officer corps that “Kim” is often the modal surname at West Point.

    Sure, they might have voted against Trump in the majority, but over the long haul have voted for the GOP at higher rates than every other Asian group.

    Running dogs of Jews and homos? Try finding an Asian group that does vote like Jews and homos and avoid martial professions. Here is a hint: many of them work for Google and Microsoft.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  185. Twinkie says:
    @Zoodles

    Im not sure why, but its always the Koreans who are the most bastshit insane asian SJW types.

    Koreans are also the most intense evangelicals. Whatever they do, they do it to the extreme. Their national slogan is “Let’s beat the Japanese… at everything.”

  186. @Anonymous

    Anonymous[337] wrote to me:

    That said, my experience isn’t wholly relevant because it was at the graduate level.

    After I posted, it occurred to me that I should have made clear that I was only talking about undergrad admissions.

    I agree with you that grad school admissions are very different, in the schools I know under departmental control. No doubt imperfect, but certainly not as bad as undergrad admissions.

    Incidentally, I do know some responsible, hard-working undergrad admissions officers (I’d name one here from UCLA, but it might ruin his reputation). But the undergrad admissions process as a whole is broken.

  187. @Jack D

    Jack D,

    Re live lectures vs, video. I had two years of classes from Dick Feynman, and I an glad they were not video.

    On the other hand, I have watched MIT’s Anant Agarwal’s brilliant online intro to EE (6.002X). If a student can go to MIT and study with Agarwal, great, But, for everyone else, it is likely that Agarwal’s videos surpass the local live lecturer.

  188. Mr. Anon says:
    @Tyrion 2

    You don’t know what you are talking about. Grutter vs Bollinger 2003, decided simultaneously, upheld the principal of affirmative action. Affirmative action is alive and well on american university campuses. It has not ended.

    Anything else you care to lie about while you’re here?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  189. Mr. Anon says:
    @anony-mouse

    Steve mentioned Idiocracy 3X in 2016 (not just 10 years ago) including literally the day before Trump was elected:

    But since then only twice.

    Yeah, you’re really on to something, kid. Keep on it. This story is about to bust wide open!

  190. Anonymous[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Madness and genius often run in the same families.

  191. Tyrion 2 says:
    @utu

    There’s no methodology and Hillel’s behaviour is typical mild and silly ethnic boosterism.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Mr. Anon
  192. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Gratz v. Bollinger involved a challenge to the University of Michigan’s undergraduate affirmative action program. The university ranked each applicant on a 150-point scale, with 100 points generally guaranteeing admission. Membership in a historically discriminated-against racial group, or “attendance at a predominately minority or disadvantaged high school,” resulted in an automatic bonus of 20 points on the scale. Jennifer Gratz and Patrick Hammacher, both white residents of Michigan, were denied admission to the university. They subsequently sued the university in a federal court, alleging that its admissions process was unconstitutional. The federal court agreed, and the case was appealed up to the Supreme Court, which reviewed the case in 2003.

    The Supreme Court, in a 6-3 decision written by Chief Justice William Rehnquist, ruled that the University of Michigan’s undergraduate admissions program was unconstitutional because it violated the Equal Protection Clause. The Court noted that the university automatically conferred points based on an applicant’s race, thereby placing some minority candidates ahead of nonminorities in admissions rankings. The Court argued that this system made “race a decisive factor for virtually every minimally qualified underrepresented minority applicant.” Thus, because the means employed by the affirmative action program were not “narrowly tailored enough” to withstand strict scrutiny, the university’s race-conscious affirmative action program was declared unconstitutional under the Equal Protection Clause.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  193. utu says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Hillel’s behaviour is typical mild and silly ethnic boosterism

    As opposed to severe and criminal ethnic boosters by Yad Vashem? What’s wrong with you Jews?

  194. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    Sure, they might have voted against Trump in the majority, but over the long haul have voted for the GOP at higher rates than every other Asian group.

    Nope. Jungle Asian like Filipinos vote GOP at highest rates followed by Vietnamese. Hmong, Indian, and Koreans had highest concentration of Democrat voters. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Americans_in_government_and_politics

  195. Mr. Anon says:
    @Tyrion 2

    There’s no methodology and Hillel’s behaviour is typical mild and silly ethnic boosterism.

    And what kind of ethnic boosterism are you engaged in?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  196. Mr. Anon says:
    @utu

    Why commenter “Tyrion 2″ should feel the need to weigh in on this rather parochial american affair from way over in Britain is kind of mystifing. It’s rather unusual for a resident of Britain to particularly care about american university admissions policies. I guess that Ron Unz (and Hillel) must be on to something real, huh?

  197. snorlax says:
    @Tony

    Pretty much all antisemites would consider former NYT publisher “Pinch” Sulzberger (Jewish father, raised Episcopalian, like Goldwater) and his son and successor AJ (1/4 Jewish) to be Jews.

    Since, AFAICT, no significant public figure or group attacked Goldwater (perhaps the most-viciously and unfairly attacked candidate ever, pre-Trump) on the basis of his Jewish ancestry, it would appear that antisemitism was more of a fringe viewpoint than anti-Catholicism in early-60′s America.

  198. @Jack D

    “One of the complaints of the Nazis …”

    The Nazis?

    Jack sometimes i think you aren’t actually a smart Jewish lawyer from Philly but TinyDuck’s Jewish sock puppet troll.

    And seriously, when someone would rather *not* have the actual data relevant to some question at hand, that’s a pretty good sign their position on it is a bogus.

  199. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Western European till I die.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  200. @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t doubt Israeli-Americans have been interesting or useful additions to the US. Keep having them to the extent you want to, that’s all I have to recomend.

    Despite the community being small, there is a number of interesting and important Brazilian Jews, specially in business and Press (surprise, surprise). People don’t know much about because (1) they sometimes act on areas very specific to the country, (2) they keep a lower profile, not flaunting their Jewishness around like in America (that’s a bit crass to do here), (3) they are not very distinct from the background whites in looks, taste, behaviour, sometimes even religion – integration has been fine, and (4) they don’t form a relevant lobbying bloc, and tend to be moderately conservative.

    In politics, Jaime Lerner (the former mayor) is the best known, but he has been out of the game for a while. Currently the highest Jew in politics has been Jacques Wagner, former Left-wing governor of Bahia and advisor to our Iran-friendly and Israel-skeptic former president (and no, Wagner was not anti-Iran).

    In the media, the highest profile goes to the family of Victor Civita (owner of the largest editorial company), a moderate conservative and to my impression the only Brazilian Jew to try to push a pro-Jewish (often cringy), pro-Israel (often sensitive) stance in his papers. On the same level of him, only the mythological Sílvio Santos (born Abravanel, a descendant of a noble family), who shows no sign of any connection to Judaism anymore (his wife is Evangelical). Minor personalities include Luciano Huck (cringy talk show host and occasional moderate right-winger), Gilberto Dimenstein (moronic Left-wing journalist), and the late Bussunda (humorist).

    In science there is a small number, but I will restrict myself to mention César Lattes (physicist), José Goldemberg (physicist, rector of the University of São Paulo), and Isaías Raw (doctor, director of the very important Butantã Institute for vaccines and anti-venom serum).

  201. Ian M. says:
    @AnotherDad

    How did ‘Murray’ come to be a Jewish name? I usually think of it as a Scottish name, although typically as a surname.

    • Replies: @Anon
  202. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ian M.

    It’s from “Moses”, I think, probably with “Moritz” or “Morris” as an intermediate step.

  203. Mr. Anon says:
    @Tyrion 2

    So you can Google – Wow – impressive! Maybe you can apply to be Art Deco’s assistant.

    All irrelevant. AA has been ruled constitutional in principal. Admissions offices have had to figure out new ways of doing it. Contrary to your false – perhaps even simply dishonest – statement, it is still widely practiced in the United States – in universtiy admissions, in government contracting, government hiring, and government lending.

    What do you know about this country? You don’t live here.

    • Troll: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  204. Mr. Anon says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Western European till I die.

    Yeah, sure, “fellow white” person.

  205. Ian M. says:
    @Jack D

    Even aside from Mafia manipulations, Italian solidarity has certainly manifested some influence in politics. For example, Antonin Scalia was unanimously confirmed to the Supreme Court by the Senate 98-0 instead of being borked because he was Italian-American. Mario Cuomo supported his confirmation out of Italian solidarity.

    And recently, Steve had a post about Italian groups opposing changing the name of Balboa Drive in Chicago, showing that still today there remains some Italian ethnic solidarity:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/blackshirt-fascist-italo-balbo-too-ethnic-to-have-his-chicago-street-renamed-after-a-black-heroine/

    Is there any other Christian white ethnic group that shows this sort of ethnic solidarity? Do the Irish? A group like the Armenians might, but many of them tend to be more recent arrivals, and Armenia is more on the the fringes of Europe.

    • Replies: @Anon
  206. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ian M.

    Poles?

    There aren’t all that many in Jersey City but they threw a monkey wrench in Mayor Fulop’s bizarre anti-Polonist signaling attempt.

  207. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    However, anti-Catholic bias seems to have pretty much faded away. I don’t know exactly when – maybe around the time Kennedy was assassinated?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/11/opinion/the-dogma-of-dianne-feinstein.html

    Yup, the Senate has much less national relevance than some fringe blog.

    Obviously neither anti-Catholicism nor anti-Semitism is as severe these days as at some points in the past, but we really ought to give up this mutual “Who’s the biggest victim?” game.

  208. Ian M. says:
    @anon

    Right. Whites should support the current suit against Harvard that would admit higher numbers of Asians to Harvard precisely because it would mean fewer whites getting admitted.

    And the fewer whites get admitted to Harvard, the fewer whites will be brainwashed at Harvard.

  209. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @snorlax

    Tablet is terrific; I almost forgive their stealing the name from the English Catholic periodical.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  210. Mr. Anon says:
    @NickG

    There are other ways of exerting political influence – other than the ballot box.

    It’s called money, and influence exerted through the media.

  211. Mr. Anon says:
    @Mr. Anon

    • Troll: Tyrion 2

    You’ve been posting here since? About the beginning of the year?

    I’ve been posting to isteve since 2005

    YOU are the troll here, nitwit.

  212. Mr. Anon says:

    …………….but we really ought to give up this mutual “Who’s the biggest victim?” game.

    It’s been a good game – a winning game – for some time. They are not going to give it up.

  213. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer

    My mistake.
    Genius mathematicians choosing to hold their ceremony in Brazil is like a bad situationally-unaware nerd joke Jerry Lewis would try.

  214. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anon

    It’s terrific but is it $200 terrific?

  215. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Zoodles

    A lot of SJWs are Chinese, which, given the obvious foreign policy interest, becomes an argument that we are getting dumber. Previous generations of Americans could recognize reasons to doubt a Chinese person who, out of the goodmess of his heart, wanted to discuss the plight of the Negro.
    The Chinese epithet for Koreans is “Martian” (there is also a less clear slur, “stick”).https://www.chinasmack.com/angry-koreans-chinese-netizen-reactions
    Of course Chinese have massively ugly riots too, and many of these comments are admiring.

  216. @27 year old

    How’s that working out for Madame President? Ill take my answers off the air, thanks.

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